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A
A
D
Okay,
we
had
new
requests
after
the
packet
was
published.
Item
number
three
case
number,
one:
five,
one:
six:
zero
requested
defer
to
February
2nd
case
number;
five,
six,
seven,
eight
nine
ten
case
number
one:
five,
one,
seven
one,
two
one:
five,
one:
seven:
six:
if
I
can
defer
to
February
19th
and
item
number
16,
15195
I
requested
defer
to
October
5th.
B
A
A
H
H
Capital
floors
has
been
family
owned
and
operated,
and
a
good
citizen
business
in
the
community
since
1932
as
such,
we've
been
blessed
with
tremendous
growth
over
the
past
few
decades
and
we're
in
need
of
expansion,
the
we
purchased
the
property,
the
subject
property
in
January
of
2022
and
after
the
fallen
into
state
of
disrepair,
we
began
putting
together
a
plan
for
the
property
that
included
break
room
office,
two
bathrooms
additional
walk-in
cooler,
enhanced
delivery
area.
H
The
larger
space
would
also
allow
us
to
load
and
unload
our
bands
in
a
protective
space
that
would
protect
our
vehicles,
our
product
from
environment
and
or
vehicles
from
consistent
theft
and
vandalism
in
the
process
of
planning,
Ted
made
a
quick
phone
call
down
to
permits
and
asked
if
metal
buildings
were
allowed
at
this
address,
and
the
answer
was
yes.
Since
we'd
paid
a
slight
premium
for
the
subject
property,
we
proceeded
with
a
plan
to
build
a
building
with
metal
fascia,
as
it
seemed
to
be
the
most
economical
and
suited
for
our
needs.
H
Our
plans
provide
for
a
20-foot
Building
height
on
the
south,
sloping
to
14
on
the
North.
The
metal
fascia
would
be
primarily
a
taupe
color,
with
accents
of
white
on
the
gutters,
downspouts
and
trim.
The
garage
doors
will
also
coordinate
with
this
scheme,
two
garage
doors
on
each
side,
Large
Garage
Doors.
H
In
addition,
we
plan
to
put
a
four
foot
wainsco
to
split
block
around
the
perimeter
of
the
building.
We
think
these
color
choices
coordinate
together
very
well
and
will
be
a
bunch
of
me
to
improve
much
needed
Improvement
to
the
property.
It
is
our
payment
opinion
that
the
requirement
to
fully
brick
the
outside
walls
would
actually
be
unsightly
at
those
Heights
compared
to
our
plan,
in
addition
to
the
added
expense.
H
As
far
as
recent
Construction
in
the
area,
both
Spin
City
and
Joe
Cooper
Auto
are
construction
of
metal
fascia
with
no
Masonry.
They
are
the
two
most
recent
new
builds
to
the
area
and
one
block
away
from
our
property
I'd
like
to
add
that
when
we,
my
family,
moved
to
that
area
and
decided
to
build
out
there,
they
were
kind
of
considered
Pioneers,
My,
grandmother
used
to
say
there
was
nothing
but
mud
from
there
to
Norman
in
1964.
Apparently
that
was
true
years
ago.
I
could
stand
on
a
front.
H
H
I'm,
not
sure
how
often
anybody
else
gets
to
59th
and
Southwestern,
but
I
can
tell
you
I've
been
there
almost
every
day
for
the
last
32
years
and,
in
my
opinion,
this
building
his
head
and
shoulders
above
about
95
percent
of
any
other
building.
You
could
find
within
a
mile
of
the
Bill
of
this
of
this
Construction.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
A
I
H
Think
what
they
meant
was
you
got
to
go
through
the
process.
I,
don't
think
they
were
rubber,
stamping
as
by
any
means
but
I.
Think
based
on
history.
I
think
they
were
telling
us
you're
gonna
have
to
go
through
the
procedures,
but,
yes,
you
can
do
a
metal
building
at
that
location.
You
know
it's
gonna
have
to
be
approved
by
you
guys,
but
I
think
that's
what
they
meant
by
that
I.
Don't
think
they
were
misinformed.
H
H
H
H
A
H
That
building
cinder
block
with
metal
up
at
what
you
see
at
the
at
the
roof.
That's
what
was
there
now
it's
flat
land,
okay,.
C
H
We're
not
going
to
paint
it
pink,
but
buildings
pink.
We
wanted
to
stand
out
and
not
do
more
pink.
We
wanted
to
do
something
that
was
a
little
bit
different.
It's
going
to
have
a
different
architectural
look
because
it's
going
to
have
a
one
sloping:
roof
I!
Think
it's
going
to
be
kind
of
more
modern
and
it's
a
garage.
It's
going
to
have
two
big
14
foot
doors
on
the
western
side
and
two
14-foot
doors
on
the
east
on
the
east
side.
So
it's
going
to
look
it's
going
to
look
like
a
garage.
H
It's
not
going
to
have
any
windows!
It's
going
to
have
a
garage
door
like
that
over
there,
not
that
big,
two
of
those
on
on
the
west
side
and
two
on
the
east
side.
It's
going
to
be
used.
You
know
for
oops,
sorry,
our
vans
to
be
able
to
pull
in
and
we
can
load
them
in
and
load
them
out
of
the
weather
and
then
Park
them
inside
so
they're,
not
vandalized
I.
C
And
snow,
are
you
going
to
have
any
sort
of
signage
on
that
metal
building
to
hold
if
you're,
storing
that
for
for
goods,
I'm,
presuming
I'm?
Sorry,
if
you're
going
to
hold,
if
you're,
going
to
store
Goods
in
that
in
that
building
and
and
vehicles,
are
you
going
to
have
any
signage
on
that
one?
No
plan
on
having
any
signage.
H
Now
and
I
don't
know,
there'd
be
much
room
for
it
just
because
those
doors
are
going
to
take
up.
If
you
look
back
at
the
plane,
they
take
up
quite
a
bit
of
the
western
exposure
and
I.
Don't
think,
there's
any
reason
to
re-advertise
this.
This
building
isn't
like
building
a
building
and
hey,
come
and
buy
more
flowers.
This
is
a
building.
That's
going
to
service
our
needs
already
that
we're
outgrown
our
current
building.
So
it's
not
going
to
generate
more
sales
or
anything
like
that.
H
H
H
I
think
the
difference
is
I'm
under
occupied
and
those
other
ones
aren't
I'm
going
to
be
there
and
I'm
going
to
be
maintaining
that
building
and
keeping
it
looking
nice
for
a
long
time.
My
son's
here
he's
going
to
be
there
a
long
time.
Those
other
ones
are
going
to
sell
to
somebody
else
and
it's
going
to
get
rusty
and
they're
not
going
to
keep
take
care
of
it.
Just
like
all
the
other
pictures
you
see
on
this
on
this
viewer
here.
H
We're
going
to
be
there
maintaining
and
just
like,
we
have
a
building,
we
have,
and
it's
all
about
maintenance
you
can
build.
You
know
the
Taj
Mahal
somewhere
and
if
you
don't
take
care
of
it,
it's
not
going
to
look
good
we're
going
to
take
care
of
this
building.
I
think
it's
going
to
last
a
long
time
and
I
think
it
suits
our
needs
and
I
think
it's
adequate
for
for
our
use.
I
what
you
know
you
don't
build.
H
The
Taj
Mahal
in
the
middle
of
you
know
the
ghetto,
not
that
this
is
the
ghetto
but
I'm
just
saying
that's
an
extravagant
way
of
saying
it
and
spend
more
to
be
next
to
O'reilly's.
Look
what
they
built!
H
H
C
I
think
last
month,
when
we
spoke
for
whatever
reason,
I
had
the
impression
that
pray
that
people
would
be
able
to
come
in
and
out
both
in
the
existing
structure
and
this
one
here,
if
you're
telling
me
it's
more
for
storage
and
holding
things,
I
definitely
am
looking
leaning
towards
the
application
again,
but
I.
Don't
know
how
we
limit
saying
if
we're
just
going
to
limit
it
for
that
purpose
and
we're
not
going
to
allow
patrons
come
into
that
building
or
any
signage.
H
A
J
Have
you
had
any
conversations
with
staff,
particularly
in
regards
to
the
the
elevation
that
you
currently
have
plans
as
far
as
do
they
feel
like
I'm,
going
through
our
staff
report
here
and
I?
Guess:
I'm
not
really
clear
on
when
you
say
they
told
you
that
it
was
okay
to
use
metal,
provided
you
said
you
thought
coming
through
this
process
would
allow,
for.
That
was
your
understanding
from
that
that
the
staff
thought
that
it
would
be
appropriate.
H
Yes,
and
so
what
our
phone
call
was
just
a
general
phone
call
and
we
gave
them
the
address,
they
looked
it
up.
They
said
yeah
that
can
be
approved.
I
think
we
took
it
to
mean
okay,
we're
going
to
be
good.
You
know
we're
good
clear
for
metal,
I
think
what
they
meant.
You
know
seeing
their
side
is
that
they've
seen
other
metal
buildings
come
through
there.
They
do
have
to
go
through
variants,
but
they'll
most
likely
be
approved
that
that's
the
okay
I
think
we
got
now.
H
In
hindsight
in
foresight,
we
thought
they
that
we
had
no
problem
with
metal
buildings.
Even
our
engineer
was
surprised
that
we
couldn't
do
metal
building
and
I
talked
to
another
guy.
That
does
quite
a
bit
of
construction.
He
was
shocked
too.
Both
of
them
looked
it
up
to
see
because
they
were
really
surprised.
H
After
talking
to
some
staff,
it
was
my
understanding
that
the
general
Spirit
of
that
law
was
to
come
in
front
of
the
board,
not
not
to
not
allow
any
metal
buildings
you
know,
but
for
you
guys
to
see
them
to
make
sure
they're
going
to
look
nice
like
this.
One
is
and
then
not
somebody's,
not
just
tilting
up
a
couple
of
pieces
of
metal.
This
is
going
to
be
professionally
built,
brand,
new
and
and
construction.
My
brother's
contractor,
so
we're
going
to
get
it
all
really
right
and
again,
it
is
just.
H
It
is
just
a
garage,
we're
not
we're
not
going
to
have
any
customer
activities
or
or
anything
it'd
be
delivery,
storage
and
vehicles.
A
A
I
K
Hi
there
Mason
schwartz522,
Concord
Drive
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
I,
also
have
here
with
me:
Mark
Kessner
and
Troy
Williams
I
am
a
legal
representation
for
the
applicant
I'm,
going
to
give
a
brief
overview
of
what
the
application
is
and
some
of
the
legal
considerations
and
then
turn
it
over
to
Mr
Kessner,
to
give
a
additional
brief
presentation
on
the
merits
and
the
details
of
the
site.
So
this
is
an
application
for
a
special
exception.
K
This
was
before
this
board
last
month
and
it
was
continued
I
believe
there
was
some
confusion
at
the
time
as
to
whether
it
was
variance
whether
it
was
a
special
exception
application.
It
is
a
special
exception
application.
We
are
seeking
approval
for
a
120
foot,
monopole
telecommunications,
Tower
cell
phone
tower.
The
property
itself
is
located
at
the
northwest
corner
of
the
fairgrounds
in
Oklahoma
City,
the
property
is
zoned
I2.
K
Alternatively,
what
the
code
set
forth
is
that
if
you
cannot
meet
all
of
the
lists
of
conditional
use
approval
conditions,
then
you
come
before
this
board
for
the
special
exception,
so
our
application
meets
all
of
those
conditions
in
that
list,
except
for
the
requirement
of
a
half
mile
setback
between
our
proposed
Tower
and
the
nearest
Tower.
So,
accordingly,
we're
coming
before
this
board
for
a
special
exception.
Just
as
the
codes
contemplate
the
process
is
working.
K
So
the
the
code
was
amended
in
2020
Oklahoma
City
to
provide
very
specific
requirements
and
framework
for
how
this
board
reviews
special
exceptions
for
these
types
of
applications,
so
59-9350
19,
subsection
B5,
is
titled
specific
standards
for
special
exception
uses
for
telecommunications
Towers.
Now
this
section
provides
four
requirements
for
a
special
exception
here.
If
we
meet
all
four
of
them,
we're
entitled
to
approval
and
in
summarizing
them
and
Mr
cashner
will
go
over
there
in
more
detail.
K
The
requirements
are
evidence
that
a
gap
in
coverage
or
a
demonstrated
lack
of
cellular
voice
or
data
service
capacity
in
the
area
evidence
that
there
are
no
other
available
sites
that
would
close
the
gap
in
coverage
or
provide
capacity
relief
evidence
that
there
are
no
co-location
opportunities
available.
That
would
mitigate
the
issues
and
evidence
that
this
Tower
site
would
satisfy
the
least
intrusive
means
of
closing
the
Gap
in
coverage.
Now
the
city
amended
these
codes
in
2020
to
adopt
these
four
elements
or
requirements
or
special
exception.
K
It
did
so
very
carefully
with
a
lot
of
thought.
The
city
in
all
cities
throughout
the
country
are
limited
severely
in
their
ability
to
regulate
the
construction
of
cell
phone
towers
by
the
federal
Telecommunications
Act.
The
Telecommunications
Act
was
enacted
for
the
specific
purpose
for
these
sections
of
it,
of
not
allowing
cities
to
interfere,
unreasonably
more
or
less
with
construction,
new
towers,
and
so
when
the
city
adopted
these
four
requirements
in
2020,
they
did
so
specifically
in
mind.
As
to
you
know,
what
kind
of
a
review
can
we
do?
K
That's
going
to
ensure
that
we're
not
going
to
violate
the
ACT
if
we
approve
or
deny
these
applications
and
so
I
think
there
were
some
questions
as
whether
or
not
this
was
a
variance.
It's
not
a
variance,
it's
a
special
exception
and
the
if
we
applied
the
variance
elements
here
and
required
an
unnecessary
hardship
or
the
other
elements
of
variance,
it
would
directly
violate
the
codes
that
have
been
adopted
in
terms
of
this
review
process
and
it
would
also
ultimately
violate
federal
law.
L
Yeah,
my
name
is
Mark
Kessner
I
reside
at
4701,
Cedar,
Mill
Road-
that
is
here
in
Oklahoma
City,
as
he
said,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
state
fair
today,
who's
the
ground
owner
speaking
on
behalf
of
Verizon,
who
will
go
on
the
tower
on
behalf
of
Branch
Towers?
Who
will
own
the
tower
our
company
we're
based
here
in
Oklahoma?
What
we
do
is
for
each
of
the
carriers
we're
for
ATT
T-Mobile
Verizon.
L
They
tell
us
when
they
need
a
site,
we
go
out
and
we
go
through
whatever
the
standards
are
within
that
jurisdiction
to
bring
them
the
site.
Here
are
the
options
you
can
do
because
they
want
a
new
site
on
air,
because,
basically,
when
they
talk
about
a
new
site,
it's
antennas,
they
can
go
in
a
building.
They
go
on
existing
Tower.
They
can
build
a
new
tower.
L
Those
are
the
options
we
bring
that
to
them
and
they
make
a
determination
of
what
they
want
to
do
and
I'll
run
through
this
I
promise
it'll
be
shorter
than
last
time,
which
went
on
quite
a
ways,
but
I
do
want
the
the
new
board
members
to
see
some
of
these
things
that
we
went
over.
So
this
is
the
original
Target.
This
is
that
area
in
the
the
only
thing
I
want
you
to
see
on.
This
is
each
of
those
yellow
dots
on
that
front
page
on
page
one.
L
Those
are
existing
towers
and
so
Verizon
has
a
site.
The
furthest
Tower
this
to
the
left,
Verizon,
is
on
the
furthest,
one
to
the
right
they're
on
they're
on
the
south,
one
they're
on
actually
a
city-owned
water
tank.
That's
right
off
the
picture,
so
this
is
an
area
that
has
a
whole
lot
of
towers.
Already,
that's
very
typical
because
you
have
such
a
mixed
use.
You
have
residential
uses,
you've
got
the
state
fair,
which
is
a
huge
draw.
L
You've
got
OKC
there,
that's
OSU
OKC,
that's
on
that
side,
and
then
you
have
two
different
highway
interchanges,
so
tremendous
amount
of
traffic
and
traffic
that
can
change
during
the
day
can
be
low
here
it
can
be
high
here
and
so
their
Engineers
have
to
factor
in
all
of
those
things
when
they're
building
a
new
site.
L
If
you
go
to
the
second
one,
this
is
a
zoomed
in
this
shows
the
the
circle
where
they
basically
tell
us
hey,
look
we
need
to
be
the
purple
dot
at
the
center
is
where
they
say
if
we
could
have
a
site.
This
is
where
it
would
be
the
it's
really
not
a
circle
anymore.
They
send
it
to
us
and
they
say
hey.
This
is
where
we
want
to
be.
What
can
we
do,
and
so
we
look
at
it.
L
We
determine
what
are
the
options,
the
options
we
presented
back
to
them
and
say
there's
a
tower
on
the
that's
on
the
left
side
there
owned
by
American
Tower.
You
could
go
on
that,
there's
a
tower
that's
owned
by
sourco.
That
is
the
one
that
the
protesters
brought.
You
could
go
on
that
or
you
could
build
a
new
one
here
on
the
state
fair
at
this
location.
Those
are
the
options
we
presented
to
Verizon.
We
tell
them
hey,
look
within
the
code.
Here's
the
things
that
you're
going
to
have
to
do.
L
We
recommended
co-locating
trying
to
co-locate
onto
the
sour
Coast
side.
That's
the
easiest
thing,
it's
the
fastest
thing!
If
you
want
to
get
on
air,
if
that
site
works
for
your
network,
then
you
want
to
do
that.
That's
how
we
present
it.
They
came
back
to
us
and
said:
hey
look.
The
American
Tower
site
definitely
doesn't
work,
we'll
try
the
towerco
site
they
applied
during
the
process
over
the
course
of
the
last
two
years
they
said:
hey,
look
that
site
does
not
meet
our
Network
needs.
What
we
really
want
is
this
site
here.
L
L
So
we
took
that
out,
and
so
it
said,
that's
why
the
tower
code
when
they
represent
they're,
not
here
they're,
not
yelling
at
the
State
Fair,
hey,
you
can't
put
another
side
because
the
state
fair
explicitly
said
we
want
the
ability
to
provide
Communications
to
the
fairgrounds
and
that's
what
our
ground
lease
is
with.
If
you'll
skip
to
the
next
one.
L
This
again,
the
those
are
just
the
standards
that
we
went
over.
This
one
shows
the
first
of
the
four
standards.
So
as
Mason
mentioned,
there
are
four
things
we
have
to
do
to
to
get
an
exception.
The
first
one
is
to
show
that
there
is
a
gap
in
coverage.
No
one
is
disputing
that
absolutely
Verizon
has
a
gap
of
coverage
at
this
site.
L
Now
you
can
go
to
the
next
one
and
the
second
one
is:
is
there
a
site
where,
if
you
have
to
build
a
new
tower
that
would
meet
every
single
one
of
these
standards?
There's
not
because
you
see
if
we
went
further
west,
we
moved
over
too
close
to
the
existing
ATC
Tower.
If
you
move
to
the
north
east
or
Northwest,
you
move
into
those
neighborhoods.
Where
again,
you
can't
build
a
tower
to
do
the
residential
restrictions
and
we
obviously
we
can't
put
a
tower
during
onto
this
interchange.
L
If
you
go
to
the
next
one,
this
is
really
the
the
Crux
of
the
argument
is
say:
can
the
towerco
site
work
or
not
which
what
Verizon
tried?
This
plot
shows
Verizon's
coverage
when
they're
on
the
proposed
side
meets
all
of
their
Network
objectives?
L
The
city
between
the
last
meeting
and
this
one
went
out
to
an
outside
Source
an
expert
and
said:
hey?
Is
that
true?
Is
this
site
better
than
a
taco
site
and
he
agreed?
So
if
you
move
to
the
last
of
the
fourth,
this
is
just
saying:
hey
look.
Is
this
the
least
intrusive?
If
you
have
to
build
a
new
site?
Is
this
the
least
intrusive?
Are
you
trying
to
put
it
into
the
neighborhood?
Are
you
trying
to
put
it
here
right
next
to
this
building
we're
not
doing
any
of
those
things.
L
This
is
in
the
location,
as
you
can
see
it's
in
a
parking
lot.
It
fits
in
perfectly
with
what's
there,
which
is
already
just
very
tall
light
poles,
so
it
meets
this
fourth
one
as
well.
This
is
the
RF
Design
This
is
the
the
outside
Council
that
the
city
reached
out
to
in
this
you
can
see.
He
says
that
this
Branch
side
is
a
better
cell
split.
It's
after
branch
location
is
better.
If
you
go
to
the
last
page,
he
prevents
kind
of
his.
L
He
even
talks
about
the
four
and
meeting
each
one
of
those,
and
then
he
tells
you
that
he
recommends
that
the
board
of
adjustment
approved
this.
When
we
went
through
this,
the
redo
a
couple
years
ago
of
the
ordinance,
all
these
things
were
thought
through.
Hey
look.
How
do
we
do
this?
How
do
we
do
Towers
here
in
Oklahoma
City
that
provides
the
carriers
with
what
they
need
the
ability
to
serve
their
customers
while
protecting
the
citizens,
this
site,
I?
Think
really.
Does
you
can
jump
to
the
conclusions
there?
L
If
you
want
the
last
one,
we
spent
two
years
on
this?
This
is
what
is
the
best
for
the
fair.
This
is
what
is
best
for
Verizon.
This
is
the
best
for
anybody
who
drives
through
this
area
on
your
phone.
If
you
live
in
that
neighborhood
and
your
kid
has
to
use
their
any
of
their
laptop
anything
to
try
to
do
school
work,
this
is
what
provides
the
best
coverage
for
those
neighborhoods
I
said
the
staff
recommended
this.
L
Your
outside
Council
recommended
us
and
we're
just
hope
that
the
board
will
go
ahead
and
grant
us
that
special
exception
to
build
this
Tower,
hey
I,
think
the
one
other
thing
that
we
did
go
over
at
length
last
time.
We
could
build
a
tower
there
at
75
feet
period,
there's
because
you're
more
than
a
quarter
mile
away
with
you
within
a
half
mile.
If
you
want
to
go
120
feet,
which
is
what
Verizon
wants,
then
you
have
to
be
able
to
go
through
and
get
the
board
of
adjustment.
That's
the
only
reason
we're
here.
L
We
asked
honestly
on
the
75
feet.
First
thing
we
tell
Verizon
say:
can
you
use
75
feet?
Will
that
work?
The
answer
is
no
hey.
We've
got
to
be
at
120
in
order
to
make
this
fix
the
network
problem.
That's
why
we're
here
again
we'll
we'll
hope
that
you
guys
will
grant
that
that
exception.
A
M
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
Matthew
J
Allen
on
behalf
of
towerco
LLC
I'm
at
210,
Park
Avenue.
If
you
do
need
my
address
behind
me,
is
Jason
catalini
he's
flown
in
from
North
Carolina.
His
home
address
would
be
in
Cary
North
Carolina,
where
towerco
is
located
before
I.
Go
into
my
presentation,
a
couple
of
things
to
clear
up
from
what
you
just
heard.
First
of
all,
Council
told
this
board
that
they
would
be
entitled
to
a
special
exception
if
they
meet
the
factors.
I,
don't
believe.
M
That's
true
I
believe
that
this
board
has
a
discretion
to
review
the
facts
in
the
law.
I,
don't
think
they're
entitled
to
anything.
Secondly,
the
Telecom
act,
the
federal
Telecom
act
that
was
referenced
by
denying
this
application
we're
here
in
opposition
you're,
not
violating
federal
law.
The
federal
requirements
are
that
municipalities,
City
of
Oklahoma
City,
cannot
discriminate
among
carriers
and
that
you
cannot
deny
carriers
the
ability
to
provide
coverage.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
optimal
coverage.
M
The
application
here
needs
to
be
denied
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
One
factually
the
facts
do
not
Merit
the
relief
that
they
seek
and,
secondly,
legally
they
don't
pass
the
test
for
a
variance
or
an
exception,
and
I
do
disagree
with
Council
that
they
don't
need
a
variance.
They
do
need
a
variance
and
we'll
get
into
that
now.
Everything
you
just
heard
falls
apart
and
I
know
that
Mr
Voorhees
and
Mr
Uday
weren't
here
I,
don't
think
in
December
as
I
recall
and
I,
don't
know.
M
Everything
they
just
said
falls
apart,
because
the
tower
coexisting
Tower
can
be
modified
to
accommodate
Verizon
and,
of
course
they
leave
that
part
out.
They
say
we
filed
an
application.
They
did
a
structural
and
Engineering
test,
Integrity
test
they're
right.
The
tower
did
fail.
It
was
not
immediately
capable
of
putting
Verizon's
equipment
on
it.
It
can
be
modified,
which
is
common
in
this
in
this
industry.
This
is
not
some
big,
crazy
structural
deal.
M
There's
going
to
modify
the
tower
now
now
that
you
know
that
the
tower
is
technologically
and
structurally
sound,
they
have
a
co-location
option,
it's
the
existing
Tower
and
something
else
that
our
our
new
members,
who
weren't
here
in
December,
haven't
heard.
Yet
towerco
has
offered
to
pay
every
penny
of
the
cost
to
modify
the
tower
130
000,
and
these
are
in
the
materials
that
we
provided
to
to
the
court
clerk.
There
are
emails
before
we
were
coming
before
the
board
between
these
parties.
That
said,
towerco
will
pay
for
everything.
M
Verizon
has
a
cost-free
co-location
opportunity
on
the
existing
Tower.
They
don't
need
this
relief.
Their
presentation
was
to
distract
you
from
the
fact
that
there's
no
technical
or
financial
issue
with
the
existing
tower
for
co-location
and
that
truth
is
fatal
to
their
case.
We
got
to
look
at
the
facts.
Look
at
exhibit
a
to
what
we
provided
to
your
court
clerk
back
in
November.
M
That
is
an
application
of
Verizon
and
Branch
to
co-locate
on
our
Tower.
If
the
location
of
our
Tower
was
not
appropriate,
they
never
would
have
applied.
Now
they
come
before
you
and
say:
well,
we're
not
so
sure
about
that
location.
We
want
this
location,
they
would
not
have
applied
for
our
Tower
if
our
location
was
not
adequate.
M
Exhibit
F
emails
between
towerco
and
Verizon
now
we're
concerned
about
the
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars
May
2021.
They
apply
to
be
on
our
Tower.
The
structural
tests
come
back.
130
000
price
tag
to
modify
the
tower.
They
walk
away,
Verizon
walks
away.
Why?
Because
they
don't
want
to
pay
the
130
000,
presumably
now
what
happened
after
that
Tower
coat
in
the
emails
that
we've
provided
to
you
offered
to
pay
the
130,
000
and
I'm
authorized
to
sit
here
today
and
tell
you
still
with
Mr
catalini
behind
me.
M
M
Here's
what
they
said
at
this
point.
We
were
too
far
down
the
road
with
an
alternative
solution.
Perhaps
had
towerco
offered
to
pay
for
the
structural
modifications.
When
we
originally
received
the
quote,
we
might
be
in
a
different
position
now,
unfortunately,
that
ship
has
sailed.
They
just
told
you
that
that
the
towerco
tower
is
not
good
enough,
technologically
what
they
said
behind
the
scenes.
An
email
is
well,
we've
already
gone
down
this
road.
If
you
had
offered
to
pay
up
front,
it
probably
would
have
been
fine
and
that's
in
your
materials.
M
So
what's
all
this
mean?
The
existing
Tower
can
be
modified.
It's
fine
from
a
technological
standpoint
and
they
didn't
want
to
pay
130
000
and
perhaps
I
don't
blame
them.
Someone
has
to
pay
the
money.
Well,
we
know
now
the
tower
code
still
will
pay
the
130
000
zero
cost
up
front
to
Verizon,
to
co-locate
on
our
Tower
and
if
they
had
pursued
co-location
starting
in
May
2021,
it
would
have
been
done
by
now.
M
We
wouldn't
be
here
in
2023
now
this
email
is
essentially
a
proverbial
Smoking
Gun
that
eliminates
every
need
for
an
exception
or
a
variance.
The
fact
is,
if
there's
any
sort
of
need
is
entirely
self-made,
the
door
to
co-locate
on
our
Tower
is
open
and
it's
free
and
they're
choosing
not
to
walk
through
it.
Instead,
they
want
to
come
here
and
build
their
own
tower
now.
M
I,
don't
know
why
Verizon
would
be
interested
in
walking
away
from
that,
but
here's
what
I
do
know
towerco
is
going
to
spend
money,
130
000,
to
modify
a
tower
to
allow
for
co-location
and
to
allow
everyone
to
abide
by
the
ordinances
branch,
on
the
other
hand,
wants
to
not
abide
by
the
ordinances
and
they
stand
to
make
money
we're
going
to
spend
money.
They
want
to
make
money
and
that's
a
difference
between
the
two
parties
if
you're
deciding.
Why
wouldn't
Verizon
take
this
good
deal?
M
We're
here
to
discuss
Verizon
now
claiming
co-location
is
Impractical
or
Impossible
Is
false,
and
you
know
that
you
see
it
in
the
materials
an
applicant
here
before
this
board
and
for
this
city
should
be
expected
to
take
reasonable
business
opportunities
to
solve
their
own
problems
and
to
abide
by
ordinances.
They've
walked
away
from
that
they've
created
their
own
problem
from
a
discretionary
sense,
I
suggest
to
the
board
that
should
be
denied
based
on
that
alone.
Legally,
it
should
also
be
denied,
because
they're
saying
it's
special
exception.
M
If
you
look
at
what's
on
the
screen
right
now,
nature
of
request,
variance
to
cell
tower
regulations,
they
need
a
variance.
They
may
also
need
a
special
exception,
because
that
is
what
set
forth
in
the
ordinance,
but
they
absolutely
need
a
variance
now
the
special
exception
versus
variance
that's
an
Oklahoma
statute.
Oklahoma
City's
code
cannot
override
Oklahoma
statute.
I.
Think
we
all
would
accept
that
and
know
that
to
be
true
now,
what's
a
special
exception,
I
want
to
do
a
use
in
a
Zone
District,
that's
not
allowed.
M
This
is
an
allowed
use
for
I2
Telecom
towers
are
allowed.
You
don't
need
a
special
exception
under
the
statute.
I
know
they're
referencing
the
ordinance
under
the
statute.
Now,
what's
a
variance
under
the
statute,
a
variance
from
the
terms,
standards
and
criteria
that
pertained
to
an
allowed
use
category.
That's
this
situation.
This
is
an
allowed
use,
but
there
are
some
rules.
They
have
to
follow
and
they're
asking
not
to
have
to
follow
them.
That's
a
variance.
M
The
variance
test
applies,
the
city
staff
report
even
says
the
site
will
be
located
in
an
I-2
Zone
District,
which
is
an
allowed
use.
It's
a
variance.
It's
a
variance
by
Statute,
now
they're
asking
for
a
deviation
from
the
term
standards
and
criteria
that
pertain
to
an
allowed
use
category.
You
just
granted
a
variance
because
someone
didn't
want
to
follow
a
specific
ordinance.
It
wasn't
about
the
use
it
was
about
not
following
that
one
rule
and
I.
M
Think
in
your
wisdom,
you
did
granted
it
and
it
sounded
to
me,
like
probably
it
should
be
look
at
their
paperwork
here,
their
first
application
for
our
two
new
board
members
who
weren't
here
in
December,
was
for
variance.
This
is
their
business.
They
know
the
difference
between
a
special
exception
and
a
variants
they
applied
for
a
variance.
M
This
variant
statute
is
controlling
on
all
of
us.
Oklahoma
statute
controls
everyone
in
this
room.
We
all
have
to
abide
by
Oklahoma
statute,
the
after
they
submitted
their
application
for
a
variance.
They
submitted
statutory
justifications
for
a
variance
I'm
telling
you.
They
know
the
difference,
because
this
is
their
business.
They
know
what
they're
doing.
M
Page
69
of
today's
packet
for
this
meeting
nature
of
request
variants
to
cell
phone
towers
regulations.
The
consultant's
report
twice
refers
to
variances
in
the
last
paragraph.
They
need
a
variance
and
they
probably
need
a
special
exception
too.
Either
way
they
fail
both
tests,
those
are
different
tests
and
they
fail
in
both
the
four-part
test.
For
the
variance
this
board
is
familiar
with.
Now,
you
can't
have
a
self-made,
unnecessary
hardship
that
fails
immediately.
What
have
they
done?
M
They
ignored
a
reasonable
co-location
opportunity
that
is
free
up
front
and
they
also
obtained
a
ground
lease
at
an
unlawful
location.
They've
made
their
own
problem.
This
is
a
self-made
hardship
under
the
variance
test.
The
first
element:
do
you
have
an
unnecessary
hardship?
Well,
they've
changed
their
story
from
last
time
to
this
time.
Last
time
they
needed
enhanced
coverage
at
the
fairgrounds.
Now
we're
talking
about
coverage
gaps
and
for
our
two
new
people.
Coverage
gaps
are
not
discussed
at
all
in
the
last
meeting
and
we
didn't
have
any
Maps.
M
Now
we
have
maps
all
of
a
sudden
that
we
weren't
provided
there's
no
evidence
in
the
public
materials
suggesting
that
there's
no
coverage.
They
just
want
enhanced
coverage.
You
look
at
their
materials,
it
says
enhanced
coverage,
it
doesn't
say
dead
spots,
it
doesn't
say
we
don't
have
coverage,
they
want
enhanced
coverage
and
they
want
event
coverage
well,
that
can
be
handled
by
the
temporary
towers
and
there's
a
co-location
opportunity
available
to
them
again
free
to
walk
through
that
door.
They're
choosing
not
to
that
can't
be
a
hardship.
M
M
What
they're
requesting
is
specific
to
their
business
interests
not
to
the
land
two
applications
after
this
one
you've
got
something
specific
to
the
land
about
subdividing
out
in
an
agricultural
District
40
acres,
because
one
of
the
plots
won't
be
five
acres.
Why?
Because
it's
a
short
section,
that's
specific
to
land!
That's
not
the
applicant's
fault.
They
can't
control
that
they
chose
an
unlawful
location.
M
The
last
element
for
I'm
skipping,
the
third,
the
last
element
for
a
variance
fails.
The
relief
is
not
the
minimum
intervention
needed
to
solve
the
problem,
denying
the
application
and
Advising
Verizon
to
go.
Look
for
co-location
that
is
again
free
to
walk
through
that
door
would
be
the
least
now.
Let's
say
it
is
a
special
exception.
I
think.
Maybe
they
need
that
too
demonstrated
Gap
in
coverage.
M
We
weren't
providing
any
technical
information,
but
now
we
see
some
maps,
so
we
weren't
able
to
have
an
engineer
review
what
they
had
to
say
other
sites
available
again,
it's
just
their
allegation.
We
have
no
idea
if
they
could
find
another
site
a
quarter,
a
full
half
mile
away
by
the
way
they
are
a
quarter
of
a
mile
away
from
our
Tower
they're
supposed
to
be
a
half
mile.
This
is
not
a
small
de
minimis
a
matter
of
a
few
feet,
they're
twice
as
close
as
they're
allowed
to
be
now.
Here's
where
they
clearly
fail.
M
The
special
exception
test.
The
third
prom.
Are
there
co-location
opportunities?
The
answer
is
yes
and
then
the
third
party
Consultants
report
that
was
provided
to
the
city.
He
said
on
that
Mr
Bickel
said
on
that
prong.
Are
there
co-location
opportunities
available
partially
was
his
answer?
Well,
that's
not!
A
no
partially
is
not
allowed,
not
a
no
and
I'm
here
to
tell
you
and
I'm
authorized
to
tell
you.
Yes,
there's
co-location
opportunity.
They
failed
the
test
for
a
special
exception
as
well
and
doesn't
proposed
new
tower
site
meet
the
meet.
The
least
intrusive
means.
M
No
co-location
obviously
does
again
free
to
walk
through
that
door.
They're
choosing
not
to.
We
do
recognize
that
you
have
this
staff
report
and
also
your
Consultants
report
recommending
that
the
application
be
granted.
Really
the
staff
report
says
we
don't
think
you
can't
do
it,
and
the
consultant
report
really
says
I
do
recommend
that
you
do
do
it.
That's
really
how
they
go.
That's
all
they
are,
though.
These
are
recommendations
for
you.
M
It
is
for
the
board
and
your
judgment
and
in
your
wisdom,
to
look
at
the
facts
and
the
law
and
apply
it
and
I'm
going
to
have
to
request.
You
know
if,
if
we
get
an
adverse
ruling
today,
we
are
very
likely
going
to
go
to
District
Court
to
appeal.
It
respectfully,
of
course,
and
so
we
do
need
a
ruling
from
the
board.
M
J
You
stated
that
you
guys
are
just
now
hearing
about
the
Gap
in
coverage
for
the
first
time,
so
I
completely
understand
if
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
have
Engineers
look
over
any
of
this.
But
are
you
or
your
client
prepared
to
speak
on
whether
or
not
you
feel
that
the
documentation
that
they
provided
regarding
that
government
coverage
Gap
is
sufficient.
M
I'm
not
prepared
to
answer
that
question
to
be
truthful
with
you,
but
what
I
can
tell
you?
Is
they
formally
applied
to
be
on
our
Tower
in
May
2021
and
if
the
tower
geographically,
the
location
of
it
were
insufficient?
There
was
something
wrong
with
it.
They
wouldn't
have
applied.
They
walked
away
when
they
saw
the
price
tag,
and
so
I
think
that
would
be
our
response
to
that.
We
have
not
had
a
chance
to
have
an
engineer
review
the
maps.
M
M
We
had
to
submit
an
open
records
request
last
week,
just
on
a
hunch,
and
it
arrived
yesterday
late
afternoon,
so
the
materials
there
referencing
that
the
city
has
gotten
to
look
at
what
they
weren't
made
available,
the
public
at
all,
but
frankly,
I'm
not
suggesting
there's
an
open
meetings,
act,
issue,
I
I,
think
that
what
we've
stated
already
requires
dismissal
or
denial
of
the
application.
K
A
couple
things
I
think
need
to
be
addressed.
First
I
want
to
address
your
question.
We
feel
like
they
certainly
have
had
plenty
of
time
to
do
whatever
research
they
need
to
do
to
compile
any
data
that
supports
Saran
I
mean
this
came
before
the
board.
December
1st
I
believe
I
noticed
went
out
prior
to
that
a
sophisticated
company
that
does
the
same
types
of
analysis.
They
can
can
certainly
go
procure
their
own
data
up
until
now.
K
The
what
you
heard
about
the
special
exceptions
and
the
variances
in
the
case
law,
with
all
due
respect
to
council,
which
is
wrong,
so
the
special
exceptions
I
think
you've
heard
that
it
has
to
do
with
have
we
was
talking
about
permitted,
uses
I'm,
going
to
read
the
statute
under
the
board
of
adjustment
statutes,
which
allows
Board
of
adjustments
the
authority
to
do
the
variance
process
and
the
special
exception
process
variances
are
generally
used,
for
they
can't
be
used
for
use
variants
in
Oklahoma,
so
variances
are
used
to
an
exception
more
or
less
to
a
code
provision
that
they
can't
meet.
K
Special
exceptions
are
different.
There
are
uses
that
are
specifically
allowed
within
a
district,
but
under
conditions
that
must
be
met,
and
then
the
board
reviews
those
conditions.
So
I
will
read
the
special
exception
statute
to
this
board.
44-106
under
title
11.
Municipal
governing
body
May
authorize
the
board
of
adjustments
to
make
special
exceptions
to
specific
uses
allowed
within
each
category,
according
to
the
zoning
ordinance
and
appropriate
cases
and
subject
to
appropriate
conditions
and
safeguards
and
harmony
with
its
general
purpose
and
intent,
and
only
in
accordance
with
general
or
specific
Provisions
contained
in
the
zoning
code.
K
So
this
is
exactly
what
the
purpose
of
a
special
exception.
Is
you
set
forth
a
number
of
conditions?
You
see
this
with
many
uses
throughout
the
code.
Here's
a
conditional
use.
If
you
can't
meet
these
conditions,
it
becomes
a
special
exception
used.
It
has
to
come
to
this
board.
That's
the
function
of
it,
it's
very
different
from
a
variance.
In
fact,
the
the
code
specifically
provides
seven
criteria
normally
for
special
exceptions,
and
then
in
the
amendment
in
2020,
they
put
those
seven
criteria
aside
and
said
for
special
exceptions
for
cell
towers.
K
59-9350
19
B4,
any
Tower,
which
does
not
meet
the
conditions
outlined
herein
for
conditional
use
rule
shall
be
required
to
obtain
a
special
exception,
so
this
has
been
listed
as
a
special
exception
on
documents
dating
back
to
the
last
hearing
before
the
board
of
adjustment.
It's
I'm
not
sure
how
else
to
say
it.
K
These
four
criteria
are
what
apply
per
the
code
and,
as
a
statute
recognizes
it's
up
to
the
city,
to
determine
what
conditions
apply
for
what
types
of
special
exception
uses
and
the
city
has
been
explicitly
clear
on
this
type
of
use,
probably
more
than
any
other
type
of
use.
Because
of
that
interplay
with
the
Federal
Communications
act,
a
couple
other
things
I
think
it's
worth
noting.
K
I'm
gonna
have
Mr
Gessner
address
briefly
the
idea
of
co-location,
but
what
I'm
hearing
from
Council
is
that
they
they
cannot
co-locate
right
now,
but
they're
asking
you
to
speculate
and
believe
that
they're
going
to
somehow
modify
the
tower
that
that
is
not
what
is
required
for
us
to
meet
the
existing
elements.
The
elements
under
the
ordinance
are.
K
Evidence
evidence
that
there
are
no
co-location
opportunities
in
parentheses
locations
on
existing
building
structures
available.
That
would
mitigate
the
issues
demonstrated
by
the
wireless
service
provider
so
by
us,
demonstrating
to
you
that
as
exists
right
now,
those
Coalition
location
opportunities
are
not
there.
We
meet
our
burden
here
of
satisfying
those
elements,
and
certainly
you
cannot
expect
an
applicant
to
say
well,
theoretically,
you
can
wait
on
somebody
else
to
go,
you
know,
modify
their
Tower
and
then
it
would
perhaps
provide
co-location
opportunities.
That's
not
what
the
ACT
provides.
K
It's
not
where
the
codes
provide
in
these
situations
and,
lastly,
I
think
it's
important
to
note.
You
know
the
impetus
of
this.
This
protest
here.
What
you
really
have
here
is
a
protest
based
on
a
protester
who
has
business
or
pecuniary
interests
as
a
competitor.
K
That's
what
it
comes
down
to
in
Oklahoma
law
is
clear
that
competition,
the
community
interests
as
a
competitor,
are
not
valid
vested
rights,
which
entitle
you
to
see
relief
against
land
use
applications.
Land
use
decisions
are
made
on
land
use,
not
on
competitors.
K
It's
important
to
recognize
that
the
the
ACT
specifically
contemplates
this
throughout
the
federal
Telecommunications
Act
at
various
places,
and
the
FTC
has
said
this
as
well
that
the
purpose
of
this
is
to
improvide
sorry
to
encourage
competition
amongst
providers
not
to
limit
it,
and
the
purpose
of
the
co-location
requirement
within
the
statutes
is
to
prevent
over
density.
Generally
speaking,
it's
not
to
protect
another
wireless
tower.
That's
a
half
mile
away
from
having
someone
within
his
business
range,
so
I
think
the
that's
important
for
this
board
to
keep
in
mind.
K
L
Yeah
I
do
I
just
want
to
wrap
up
and
just
clarify
a
couple
things.
Some
will
be
done.
So
you
know
one
thing
that
that
the
council
for
Tower
code
set
up
here
so
I,
don't
know
why
they
would
walk
away
from
130
000
we're
throwing
at
them.
Let's
do
it
things
that
one
Verizon
going
on
that
represents
about
three
quarters
of
a
million
dollars
to
towerco
towerco
sold
at
one
point
for
1.4
billion
dollars
with
a
B.
That's
why
they're
flying
people
in
from
North
Carolina?
That's
why
they're
paying
high-priced
lawyers?
They
say
this!
L
L
I
can
tell
you
why
we
walk
away
from
with
Verizon
Engineers
told
us
in
this
and
then
what
your
outside
engineers
said.
The
site
doesn't
work.
The
site
does
not
present
to
them
what
they
need
to
cover
the
coverage
and
capacity
Gap
as
required
by
the
SEC.
It
just
doesn't
work,
so
you
could
throw
130
000.
You
could
throw
530
000.,
it
doesn't
matter
what
towerco
offers
that
site
doesn't
work.
The
site
over
in
the
corner
does
work.
We're
asking
you
to
allow
that
120
feet.
That's
what
Verizon
needs!
That's
what
the
fair
wants.
That's!
L
What
helps
the
people
who
are
here,
the
only
person
who
loses
If.
You
deny
it
the
only
person
who
loses
if
you
table
it,
because
they
want
the
money.
That's
all
that
it
comes
down
to
to
them.
I
live
here,
hey
I
use,
my
phone,
everybody
I
know,
has
to
drive
through
that
interchange
and
use
their
phone
doesn't
matter
to
them.
If
you
can
use
your
phone,
it
matters
them.
If
they
get
money,
that's
all
that
they
care
about.
L
That
investment
correct-
and
you
know
the
another
thing
that
the
council
says:
yeah
I,
don't
understand.
Why
would
you
apply
anyone?
Who's
worked
in
this
industry
in
a
sense
we
fly
all
the
time
you
look
at
it
hey.
Does
it
work?
Does
this
site
work?
No,
it
doesn't
things
change.
Your
network
changes
that
site
at
that
location,
no
matter
what
you
do
to
it
doesn't
do
any
good,
as
we
talked
last
time,
if
you
go
higher
that
site's
only
95
feet.
L
Now,
with
these
with
the
extension
on
it,
if
you
went
higher,
let's
say
you
went
to
120,
replace
it
with
a
whole
new
tower.
The
problem
that
created,
as
we
talked
about
last
time
for
Verizon,
is
their
site
on
the
east
side.
Now
they're
too
high
it
Shadows
into
that
one.
So
the
location
they
need
is
the
location
of
the
Northwest
part
of
the
fairgrounds
and
the
height
they
need
is
120..
So
why
the
75
wouldn't
work?
That's
why
the
other
location
won't
work.
L
C
B
L
Going
down
below
the
towers,
so
it's
so
it's
a
lot
more
complicated
than
that
in
that,
so
the
the
tower,
that's
just
outside
the
ring
on
the
left
side
that
one
Verizon's
not
on
that
one
att's
on
there.
So
the
different
carriers
have
different
networks
and
that's
why
that's
when
you
hear
the
term
collocations,
because
we
said
10
years
ago,
hey
look
everybody's
not
going
to
build
their
own
Towers
you're,
going
to
try
when
you
can
you're
going
to
go
on
a
tower.
That's
there,
no
matter
who
owns
it,
whether
it's
ATT,
Verizon,
towerco
whomever!
L
So
one,
if
you
go
very
far,
you
notice
you're
going
to
get
for
a
for
a
tower.
This
High
120
you're
at
that
point,
going
to
be
too
close
to
the
site.
That's
on
the
south
that
you
sell
their
owns,
so
you'll
come
up
with
the
same
problem,
but
the
more
specifically
to
your
question
when
Verizon's
Engineers
look
at
this
they're.
L
That's
not
the
covers,
that's
where
they
tell
me,
they
need
the
site.
If
you
go
to
the
red
one,
the
one
that
shows
all
the
coverage
that
that
location
tells
me
women
just
to
keep
going.
So
this
is
the
coverage
map
so
that
red
the
red
is
good
and
the
site
that
you
see
this
proposed
during
that
location
links
those
two
like
we
talk
about
cells
and
cellular.
You
have
to
be
able
to
hand
off
that's
why
you
drop
calls
this
one,
you
can't
hand
off
correctly.
L
That's
why
sometimes
you
can't
text
as
if
you're,
an
area
that
does
not
have
it
so
that
allows
you
to
connect
from
here
to
here
to
here.
These
are
showing
just
the
Verizon
sites
that
they
have
existing
around
the
one
on
the
south
is
the
one
that
Stockyards,
that's
the
one,
that's
to
the
West,
there's
one!
That's
to
the
east.
Okay,.
J
L
C
L
So
so
two
things
one
if
you
go
and
I
know
this
is
complex
if
you
go
back
to
the
first
one
by
moving
a
full
half
mile
south.
You
are
now
too
close
to
the
towers,
though,
to
the
South,
because
remember
we're
only
a
half
mile
that
you
can
be
away
from
them,
so
you
do
create
the
same
problem.
In
fact,
you
create
the
problem
for
Two
Towers.
L
If
you
did
that
to
the
South,
but
more
importantly
like
and
I'm
I'm,
not
the
engineer,
but
those
guys
have
spent
millions
of
dollars
designing
the
network
and
when
they
say
hey,
we've
got
to
be
in
the
spot.
Even
if
it's
right
next
to
an
interchange,
I'm,
not
gonna,
I,
don't
I,
don't
try
to
tell
them
hey!
You
can't
put
it
there.
Hey,
that's
wrong!
L
C
L
Yeah,
you
can't
quite
see
there's
one
right
at
the
base
at
the
bottom.
That's
on
the
fairgrounds
property
that
U.S
cellular
owns
that
was
shown
on
the
other
one.
But
it's
right
outside
of
this
one,
and
you
do
like
you
mentioned
there'll,
be
some
like.
Obviously
I
can't
just
stick
it
right
on
top
of,
if
there's
the
other
one.
L
Foreign
to
answer
your
question
best
if
I
were
to
take
that
back
to
them
like
when
we
first
did
this.
If
I
said
hey,
look,
I
can
put
you
on
the
railroad
tracks
right
south
of
the
Bennett
Center.
He
would
have
said.
Hey
no
Mark
I
told
you
I've
got
to
be
up
here
in
the
circle
near
this
purple.
Pin
that's
where
we've
got
to
have
our
coverage.
What
you're
providing
me
doesn't
do
me
any
good,
because
I
promise
I've
tried
those
on
different
sides.
They
do
analyze
everything
you
give
them.
K
That
is
because
the
the
law
recognizes
that
this
boar
is
not
experts
in
trying
to
figure
out
coverage
and
capacity
and
location,
so
we've
provided
the
the
data
that
shows
and
why
this
ring
was
was
provided
by
Verizon
and
why
that's
the
starting
point,
and
then
that
is
what
this
Board
needs
to
make
its
decision
and
I
think
what
a
read
from
the
this
is
from
the
specifically
from
a
declaratory
ruling
on
the
FCC.
K
It
says
it
is
clear
that
a
state
or
local
government
may
not
lawfully
deny
an
application
to
cite
a
personal
wire
service
facility
on
the
basis
that
the
other
Wireless
carriers
serve
the
same
geographic
area.
So
it's
and
there's
other
language
to
that
extent
that
this
board's
job
is
not
to
look
and
see
well
how
many,
how
many
Towers
in
the
area
do
we
think
we
need
it
or
not,
because
it's
asked
that
would
be
asking
you
to
play
expert
in
area.
That's
that's!
Certainly.
C
We're
a
quick
question
for
you.
Looking
at
the
materials
exhibit
B
is
an
email
dated
July
20th
2021
offering
to
pay
for
the
upgrades
at
that
point
there
was
an
open
offer
and
it
was
not
until
September
that
you
guys
decided
to
apply
I
guess
for
the
new
tower
again
this
even
pronged
5D
says
the
proposed
new
tower
meets
the
least
intrusive.
I,
don't
know
about
you,
but
I.
Don't
really
like
looking
at
cell
towers
out
of
my
home.
C
B
C
That
Tower
and
I
guess
I've
not
I,
don't
recollect
the
verbiage
in
the
additional
email
that
says
we're
too
far
down
the
road.
I,
don't
know
what
date
that
one
was
yeah.
L
So
so
two
things
one
the
to
answer.
The
main
question
hey:
why
do
you
not?
Why
not
take
130
000?
Why
spend
the
money
here?
The
answer
is
that
site
doesn't
work
the
location
when
the
engineers
look
at
it.
It
doesn't
work,
no
matter
again
how
much
that
money
they
spend
that
that
location
where
the
attacker
side
is
does
not
solve
the
problem,
and
so
no
it
won't
matter
what
you
do
to
that.
Tower,
there's
no
way
to
get
to
it
and
I
think
like
on
the
in
the
other
I.
Think
it's
easy.
L
When
you're,
not
you
know
they,
they
provided
that
email.
But
that's
not
from
an
engineer.
That's
from
a
business
director
saying
hey,
look
if
you've
done
something
earlier,
maybe
things
would
be
different
but,
like
I
don't
view
that
at
all
as
the
engine,
that's
not
an
email
from
an
engineer
saying,
hey
I
could
use
that
site.
The
engineer
said:
hey
I
can't
use
that
site.
Did
those
two
people
talk
I,
don't
know,
but
I
I
know
the
engineer
both
within
Verizon
and
external
have
said:
hey
look.
The
site
does
not
work.
L
The
site
proposed
by
Branch
does
work
to
solve
the
coverage
issue.
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
what
else
you
can
provide
there.
I
do
know.
The
the
last
thing
I'll
say
is:
is
I,
know:
Council,
hey,
threatened,
you
guys
and
said:
hey
we're
going
to
District
Court
this
or
that
we
did
the
same
thing
with
them
in
Tulsa,
County,
four
or
five
months
ago,
but
they
said
hey.
If
you
approve
this
we're
gonna,
it's
it's
a
bluff
by
a
company
with
a
lot
of
money.
L
They
didn't
and
that's
how
it
got
built
and
now
that's
how
it
serves
the
people
of
North
Tulsa
where
they
can
get
the
coverage
they
need
there
is.
We
have
followed
the
ordinance
to
the
letter
we've
provided
you
guys
with
something
that
you
can
make
an
approval
or
not
on
that
I
think
will
help
the
community.
C
In
the
first
and
the
December
meeting,
if
I
remember
correctly,
it
was
all
about
trying
to
provide
greater
coverage
for
the
state.
Fair
I
mean
right
now:
we've
got
temp
temp
Towers
being
brought
in
during
that
time.
B
C
N
C
Of
been
a
shift,
I
feel
like
in
the
two
meetings.
That's
one
thing
I'll,
let
you
respond
to
that.
One.
L
Yeah
I
think
you
know
in
the
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
they
presented
last
time
was
based
on
the
cow
and,
what's
what
they
call
those
those
temporary
sites
that
was
from
their
side
on
the
horizon
side,
this
side
it
has
to
be
able
to
serve
multiple
reasons.
One
of
those
is
to
head
to
no
longer
have
to
deploy
the
cow
to
the
fair,
but
the
bigger
issue
is
hey.
If
you
do
that,
it
doesn't
solve
any
of
the
problems
in
the
neighborhood
and
you're
constantly
having
to
deploy
it.
L
A
cow
doesn't
work,
you
could
go
if
you
went
on
to
the
site
the
cycle
site,
you
might
solve
the
problem
right
there
out
that
part
of
the
fair,
but
it
doesn't
solve
the
overarching
problem.
If
that
makes
sense,
that's
what
the
engineers
are
trying
to
do.
They
can't
do
six
sites.
They
can
do
one
site
that
solves
the
problem.
C
But
before
we
go
do
this,
is
it
going
to
work?
You
know
I'm
not
going
to
go
plan
on
building
some
sort
of
office
in
a
location
that,
after
the
fact
I'm
like
oh
crap,
that's
actually
not
going
to
work
for
me.
So
you
can
see
how
that
to
me.
Personally,
it
seems
like
that
doesn't
line
up.
L
With
the
story,
absolutely
that's
a
great
question
and
they
the
way
the
rate
the
process
works
for
all
the
carriers
is.
Ultimately
the
engineer
makes
that
determination
and
he
has
to
approve
it
and
say:
hey
we
go
here,
and
so,
if
I'm,
the
business
guy
I
can
work
all
kinds
of
deals.
In
fact
like
when
I
go
out
here
again,
we
present
lots
of
candidates
for
them
to
look
at,
but
ultimately
that
that
Engineers,
who
makes
the
termination
because
he's
the
one
who's
on
the
hook
for
the
network
working.
L
J
I,
just
have
a
question:
do
you
have
any?
Are
there
any
metrics
that
you
guys
have
you
stated
that
this
co-locating
won't
work,
because
it
just
won't
work?
What
is
the
when
you
can
you
define
that
or
give
more
clarity
on
that?
Is
there
a
metric
are
we
are
we
talking
about
70
of
where
you
think
you
should
be?
Is
how
do
I
quantify
that
so.
L
So
a
couple
things
that
kind
of
gets
back
to
Mason
like
I'm,
not
an
engineer
and
I'm
I
can't
answer
for
the
engineers
in
that
regard.
I
think
that
what
they
would
tell
you
is
like
their
software
and
their
programs.
They
spend
millions
of
dollars
on
and
they
track
all
kinds
of
stuff.
That's
proprietary
that
I
can't
show
you
that
says:
hey,
look!
Here's!
How
many
drop
calls!
Here's,
where
the
problems
are!
Here's
where
this
is
that
they
can't
show
and
they
won't
show,
but
it
leads
them
to
say,
hey!
Look!
L
J
I
agree
but
I'm
struggling
with
the
fact
that,
even
in
his
report,
when
it
comes
to
whether
or
not
the
co-location
opportunities
exist,
or
he
put
partially
and
I
think
from
I'm
actually
stuck
on
the
word
opportunity,
because
I
agree
with
what
your
Council
said.
I
think
that
there
is
something
to
be
said
about
stating
the
existing
state
of
something
versus
what
it
can
be.
So
I,
don't
know
that
we
can
restrict
you
in
terms
of
somebody
talking
about
an
investment
that
they're
willing
to
make.
J
But
at
the
same
time,
I
do
believe
that
onus
is
on
you
all
to
demonstrate
that
you
meet
these
requirements
and
I'm
having
a
hard
time,
because
I'm
not
sure
why
it
doesn't
work,
because
what
I
also
agree
with
from
the
other
council
is
the
fact
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
provide
a
pathway
but
I'm
stuck
on
this
idea
of
optimum
or
what's
the
threshold
that
the
the
city
has
a
responsibility
to
bend
to
to
allow
these
services
to
exist.
L
That
may
be
so
the
as
far
as
the
thresholds
again,
I
can't
speak
to
the
engineering.
You
know,
I
know
each
of
the
carriers
Verizon
any
of
those
companies.
They
have
to
provide
a
certain
amount
of
service
FCC
period.
They
have
to
do
it.
That's
the
guy
who's
on
here
and
as
their
Council
made
the
point
he
said,
hey
look.
Why
would
you
turn
down
that
money?
Why
would
you
turn
down
130
000
to
go
on
the
site
for
us
to
make
it
perfect
for
you?
L
The
only
reason
you
would
is
if
that
site
doesn't
work.
If
you
look
at
it,
you
say:
hey
that
doesn't
solve
my
problem.
I'm!
Sorry,
we've
got
to
go
somewhere
else.
We've
got
to
go
here
and
to
me,
that's
the
there's,
nothing
more
that
they
could
say
other
than
again
we
like
when
we
turned
it
in,
and
we
talked
about
it
in
the
first
meeting.
L
Our
number
one
suggestion
to
Verizon
say:
go
on
the
tower
coat
Tower,
that's
what
you
should
do
and
they
went
through
everything
in
their
analysis
and
their
engineers,
and
they
said
hey.
We
can't
that
doesn't
solve
the
problem.
The
problem
solved,
if
we
go
over
here
and
like
I,
mean
that
I
don't
feel
like
that's
my
place,
to
sell
those
Engineers
say
that
that
doesn't
work
that
doesn't
fix
it.
J
Well,
is
it
are
you
of
the
mindset
right
now
that,
if
you,
if
Verizon,
were
to
take
that
Arrangement
and
co-locate
with
them
that
it
would
not
improve
nor
solve
the
the
coverage
Gap
that
you
guys.
L
K
And
so
this
says
the
existing
Tower
does
not
sufficiently
address
the
coverage
capacity
needs
and
identified
by
Verizon.
The
original
targeted
was
around
95
feet
on
the
towerco
location
does
not
provide
adequate
coverage
back
to
the
neighborhood
on
Northwest
of
The
Interchange.
If
that
Tower
were
extended
further,
which
would
require
Tower
go
to
get
a
board
of
adjustment,
special
exception,
we'd
be
right
back
here,
then
Verizon
would
see
degradation
interference
with
existing
site
to
the
east.
So
the
answer
is
there's.
K
If
this
Tower
to
the
the
tower
code
would
be
raised,
then
it
would
cause
other
degradation
issues
for
existing
sites
of
the
East,
and
so
that
is
why,
even
if
it
was
extended,
Verizon
has
said
here
that
the
co-location
will
not
work
and
so
that
their
statements
from
Verizon,
in
conjunction
with
all
the
the
data
that's
been
submitted,
is
what's
required
to
meet
the
threshold
in
terms
of
us
demonstrating
a
lack
of
evidence
as
contemplated
by
special
dividends,
and
then
this
was
in
submitted
materials.
That
statement.
M
I
believe
their
rebuttal
went
pretty
far
beyond
what
standard
rebuttal
would
be.
I'd
ask
the
board's
Indulgence
for
a
few
minutes
and,
if
not
I,
understand,
but
they
certainly
brought
up.
Our
name
brought
me
up
brought
up
a
towerco,
and
that
was
far
beyond
what
a
standard
rebuttal
might
be.
I'd
ask
the
board
for
a
very
brief
response
and,
of
course
the
applicant
should
get.
The
last
word
go
ahead.
Thank
you.
M
Mr
Voorhees
there
were
statements
about
the
gentleman
put
a
whole
lot
of
thought
and
tint
and
words
into
both
me
and
towerco
that
there's
just
a
pecuniary
interest
here.
Well,
both
sides
do
have
a
financial
interest
or
there
wouldn't
be
two
lawyers
here
talking
at
the
board
of
adjustment.
Obviously
Branch
Communications
is
going
to
get
paid
to
find
this
spot
and
to
build
a
tower.
I
haven't
heard
from
anyone
who
actually
works
for
Verizon
in
this
room.
M
We
got
this
through
an
open
records
request
yesterday
afternoon,
if
we're
worried
about
the
neighborhoods
to
the
Northwest
and
move
to
the
Northwest
and
then
roll
out
the
cell
on
wheels,
keep
saying
cow:
that's
Cellular,
Tower
on
Wheels
roll
that
out
for
events
at
the
fair
problem
solved
and
they're
abiding
by
the
ordinance.
Okay.
We
all
both
sides
have
a
financial
interest,
but
the
applicants
have
the
responsibility
to
meet
the
law,
that's
their
job,
not
ours,
and
we're
here
to
make
sure
that
they
do
that.
Now
the
ordinance
was
amended
in
2020.
M
You
know
what
it
said
before:
2020
that
little
four-part
test
was
not
in
the
ordinance
about
cell
phone
towers
and
it
never
said
special
exception
that
language
changed
in
2020..
Well,
what
were
we
doing
here?
The
board
of
adjustment
prior
to
2020
granting
variances,
not
special
exceptions,
variances
required.
They
said
the
gentleman
said
something
about
this
coverage
being
required
by
the
FCC.
First
of
all,
that's
not
true,
and
secondly,
have
they
been
in
violation
of
the
FCC
ever
since
entering
the
Oklahoma
City
Market.
M
If
they
don't
have
coverage
here,
they're
saying
they
have
to
do
this
to
meet
Federal
requirements
and
they're
they've
been
in
violation
for
a
long
time,
and
this
could
have
been
solved
in
2021
if
they
had
pursued
co-location,
they
didn't
because
they
didn't.
Like
the
price
tag
later
towerco
said,
we
understand,
we'll
pay
it.
That
door
is
still
open.
M
Mm-Hmm
and
I
do
agree
with
Mr
SATA
that
at
the
last
meeting
we
were
talking
about
primarily
event
coverage
at
the
fairgrounds.
Now
that
they
we
played
our
hand
essentially
in
December,
and
we
said
they
need
a
variance
and
we
got
a
little
confused
on
the
legalities
of
it.
They
have
now
submitted
all
this
new
material.
That
was
no
part
of
the
last
meeting.
None,
they
have
changed
their
story.
They
have
now
the
reason
that
they
ever
applied
for
the
towerco
existing
Tower.
Why
did
they
have
and
I
mean
formally
applied?
M
There's
it's
in
your
materials
piece
of
paper.
They
filled
out
and
said
we
want
to
apply
why
we
were
in
the
search
ring.
Our
Tower
is
in
the
red
circle.
Now
we
have
a
new
red
circle,
but
in
2021
our
location
was
fine
and
when
they
say
the
tower
won't
work,
it
sure
works
for
T-mobile
and
at
T
right
now,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
the
tower.
It
does
need
to
be
modified
to
add
some
height
to
it
to
allow
for
their
antenna.
They're
tell
all
they
never
said
in
December
that
Tower
would
never
work.
M
They
never
said
that
and
now
that
they
think
the
game
has
changed.
They've
changed,
they've
changed
their
story.
Our
Tower
was
in
their
initial
search
ring.
We
will
pay
to
modify
it
and
they
have
not
met
the
legal
test.
It
doesn't
matter.
The
federal
requirement
is
that
you
cannot
discriminate
among
carriers
and
that
you
have
to
allow
them
to
Pride.
Essentially
basic
coverage,
not
optimal,
not
special,
not
super
great,
but
just
coverage,
and
that
is
true
council's
right.
M
The
board
can't
stop
some
other
carrier
from
coming
in
and
you
can't
deny
them
the
ability
to
Pride
coverage,
but
you're
not
required
to
Grant
variances
or
special
exceptions,
or,
in
my
opinion,
both
just
because
they
want
better
coverage
and
again,
if
there
is
some
FCC
requirement
that
they
that
they
need
this
to
meet
like
I'm
a
little
frankly
I'm
a
little
surprised.
They
said
that
out
loud
in
here,
because
they've
been
in
violation
of
a
federal
statute
for
God
knows
how
long?
M
L
I
won't
address
most
of
that.
You
guys
can
ask
questions
the
reason
these
didn't
used
to
come
before
Board
of
adjustment
is
the
old
ordinance,
as
you'll
remember,
went
to
Planning
Commission
for
any
of
us
who
have
done
this
for
the
past
10
or
15
or
25
years.
That's
where
they
usually
went.
The
Planning
Commission
got
to
the
point
where
they
said:
hey
stop
bringing
these
in
all
the
time.
Let's
reword
it
to
include
the
word
capacity.
Let's
tweak
this,
let's
tweak
this
and
then
let's
send
it
to
board
of
adjustment
whatever
it
doesn't.
Do.
L
That's
that's
why
it
comes
here
now
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
variance
or
anything
along
those
lines.
As
far
as
his
other
comments
like
he
said,
hey,
he
said
you
know
we
should
just
move
to
the
Northwest.
You
tell
me
if
I
came
in
here
and
told
you
guys,
let's
move
to
the
Northwest
side
of
that
intersection.
What
would
you
say
you
say:
hey
you're
in
a
neighborhood,
why
would
you
do
that?
Why
would
you
guys
not
go
to
the
southeast
side
or
by
the
fair,
where
there's
plenty
of
room?
L
J
I
just
have
one
quick
question
and
I
know
that
the
other
Council
has
stated
that
they
want
to
have
a
decision
made
today.
Obviously,
I
wasn't
here
at
the
previous
meeting
in
I'm,
fully
aware
of
both
parties
desire
to
to
get
a
resolution,
but
I
am
curious.
If
it
were
an
option,
would
you
all
be
on
board
to
provide
the
documentation
or
provide
the
specific
data
that
supports
this
idea
that
nothing
changes
about
the
cellular
coverage
if
you
were
to
co-locate
with
them
so.
L
I
think
the
answer
would
be
no
because
so
much
of
that
is
proprietary
in
in
the
Verizon's
Engineers
will
say:
hey
look.
We
provided
the
map
showing
it
and
as
far
as
going
to
get
an
outside,
you
know,
the
other
thing
I
could
do
is
I
could
go
get
an
outside
Source,
but
you
guys
have
already
done
that
and
the
outside
Source
said
hey.
This
is
what
you
need
to
do
so.
I
I,
don't
know
that
that
we
would
benefit
there
wouldn't
be
much
more.
That
I
could
provide
well.
J
The
the
outside
Source
in
in
his
reports,
also
is
using
the
word
like
Optimum,
so
I
think
that
it
leads
me
to
believe
that
there's
this
idea
that
there's
some
improvement.
But
it's
not
the
level
of
improvement
that
you
all
want
see
and
again
I'm
coming
back
to
feeling
like
the
onus
is
going
to
be
on
you
to
demonstrate
that
this
can't
be
met
any
other
way.
And
while
you
seem
like
an
honest
and
upstanding
God,
we're
relying
on
information,
that's
being
related
to
us
about
engineers
that
you
all
are
are
talking
to
that.
K
Conversely,
we're
relying
on
this
other
Tower
to
tell
us
that
they're
going
to
modify
their
Tower
right
and
so
I
think
either
way.
I
mean
I
think
that
we
do
have
the
necessary
data
submitted
to
demonstrate,
leaving
the
elements,
but
I
think
I
think
we
need
to
get
back
for
a
second
to
the
actual
language
of
what
we
need
to
meet,
which
says
evidence
that
there
are
no
location
opportunities,
locate
and
then,
in
parentheses,
location
on
existing
buildings
structures
that
are
available.
K
That
would
mitigate
the
issues
demonstrated
by
the
wireless
service
provider,
which
you've
not
heard
here
today.
Is
anybody
tell
you
that
there's
an
existing
Tower
as
it
sits
out
there
today
that
can
provide
the
co-location
opportunities?
That
is
not
the
case.
If
they
it's
one
thing,
if
it
was
out
there-
and
we
just
you
know,
we
didn't
necessarily
do
the
the
research
to
see
if
we
can
co-locate
on
it.
That's
not
the
case.
K
What
here
is
the
situation
is:
there's
a
theoretical
in
the
future
that
this
Tower
will
be
modified
to
provide
the
co-location
opportunities
which
again
we
don't
agree
with,
but
the
bottom
line
is
the
language
in
the
codes
is
existing
and
there
is
not
an
existing
tower
out
there.
That
will
provide
the
co-location
and
you
haven't
heard
evidence
of
the
contract.
You've
heard
hypothetical
evidence
as
to
what
might
happen
or
might
not
happen
if
they
choose
to
extend
their
Tower
up,
which
would
still,
as
we
understand,
require
a
special
exception
from
this
board.
K
C
If
there
is
an
offer-
and
you
accept
to
for
them
to
fix
and
upgrade
this
existing
Tower,
then
I
think
your
concerns
of
whether
or
not
they
would
do
it.
I
think
are
going
to
be
satisfied
by
the
fact
that
there
would
be
a
breach
of
contract
if
they
did
not
go
through
with
that.
So
I
don't
think
that
really
needs
to
be
considered
if
they
say
they're
going
to
do
it,
I
would
expect
them
to
otherwise
you're
going
to
file
a
lawsuit.
Well,.
K
I
disagree
because
I
mean
first
off
than
anybody
could
can
come
in
and
say:
well,
you
know
I'll
theoretically
build
a
tower
for
you.
That's
not
what
the
code
requires.
It
doesn't
say
existing
or
potentially
existing
under
contract.
It
says
existing
structures
for
a
reason.
It's
what's
out
there
on
the
ground
right
now
today
and
then
again
I,
don't
we
don't
believe
those
would
be
ameliorated
because
we
believe
it
was
granted
and
raised.
It
would
have
the
issues
on
this
to
the
east,
so
I
think
it's
you're.
K
A
O
O
If
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
read
through
all
that,
then
then
that's
a
something
to
look
at
if
you
haven't
had
to,
but
I
did
that
my
concern
and
when,
when
we
and
I
was
part
author
of
the
revised
ordinance
a
couple
years
ago,
my
concern
was
for
the
city
and
what's
best
for
the
citizens
of
Oklahoma
City,
and
so
as
an
RF
engineer,
myself,
I
issue
these
kinds
of
search
Rings,
all
the
time,
I
have
clients
all
over
the
United
States
that
I
work
with
and
I
issue
search
areas
for
Towers.
O
O
So
what
we
do
is
we
have
Trends
analysis
that
we
track
certain
kinds
of
metrics
all
the
time
you
know
drop
calls
used
to
be
a
big
one,
but
we
don't
talk
as
much
as
we
text
anymore.
So
we
look
for
a
lot
of
capacity
issues
and
a
lot
of
those
are
our
problems
with
interference
and
to
your
point,
Mr
SATA,
you
mentioned
well.
Why
can't
we
move
this
site
to
the
South
or
to
the
North,
or
something
like
that?
O
Well,
it's
it's
really
a
very
much
a
balancing
act
when
you're
trying
to
engineer
a
network.
So
you
want
it's
more
about
interference
now
than
coverage
used
to
be
back
when
I
went
to
work
with
ATT
I
was
their
RF
engineer
started
in
2000.
I
was
their
senior
RF
engineer
here
in
Oklahoma
City
and
we
had
a
couple
of
dozen
Towers
in
the
town
and
there
were
two
250
300
feet
tall,
some
of
them
and
we
were
just
trying
to
get
voice
coverage
out
there
right.
O
So
you
can't
have
300
foot
Towers.
In
fact,
if
you
look
around
you,
don't
see
those
you
see
what
used
to
be.
Maybe
a
tall
tower
and
they've
moved
their
antennas
way
down
on
the
the
lower
elevations,
so
they're,
typically
100
120
150
feet
Maybe,
but
when
you
get
really
into
into
the
middle
of
town
those
center
lines,
the
elevations
of
the
antennas
are
lower.
O
So
when
we
look
at
trying
to
improve
data
throughput
what
we
we
try
to
look
at
what
is
going
to
minimize
interference
because
everything
uses
the
same
frequency
used
to
be.
We
had
channels
here
and
channels
there
and
all
these
different
channels,
but
we
don't
have
that
kind
of.
We
have
so
much
capacity
anymore.
We
don't
have
all
those
channels
to
just
okay,
this
site's,
going
to
use
these
channels
and
these
this
site
over
here
is
going
to
use
different
channels.
O
O
So
what
you're
trying
to
do
is
mitigate
interference,
so
if
I
have
like
you'd
mentioned,
Mr
SATA
you've
got
all
these
towers
right
here
and
if
I
want
one
enough,
stick
it
too
close
to
this
other
one
I've
still
left
a
hole
over
here,
I'm
too
hot,
because
I'm
next
to
this
one
over
here
and
I'm
not
balanced
with
these
other
ones.
And
so
you
want
to
try
to
Center
these
and
that's
why
it's
called
cellular
cellular
is
based
on
cells
and
they
stack
next
to
each
other,
and
that's
why
it's
called
celery.
O
So
when
I
looked
at
this
I
and
as
an
engineer
too
I
would
say:
hey
there's
a
Colo
over
there.
Let's
take
a
look
at
that,
so
we
would
look
at
those,
and
we
would
consider
that
and
I
mentioned
that
in
my
discussion-
that
you
do
that
part
of
your
due
diligence,
because
you
want
to
do
a
co-location
if
you
can,
because
once
again
there's
a
couple
of
good
reasons.
One!
It's
speed
deployment
because
you
want
that
relief,
because,
when
you're,
looking
at
your
metrics,
you
go.
O
O
O
It
may
not
be
the
perfect
plan
and
that's
why
I
said
partially:
okay
you're
probably
going
to
get
some
partial
relief
on
the
the
co-location,
but
it's
not
optimal
and
I
I
think
we
need
to
think
about.
What's
optimal,
not
just
what's:
okay,
you
know
an
okay
network
isn't
really
serving
the
people.
An
optimal
Network
serves
a
people
better.
O
The
other
thing
I
mentioned
was:
if
we
do
a
120
foot
poll
here,
you've
got
a
couple.
You
got
a
nice
strong
new
tower
that,
when
ATT
or
Verizon
or
who
knows
Google
whoever
right
somebody
else
wants
to
get
on
that
Tower
then
there's
another
optimal
use,
and
that's
why
I
said
that
that
was
the
least.
What
was
the
term
least
intrusive
means
test.
O
The
reason
I
mentioned
that
was
now.
You
have
a
brand
new
tower
that
allows
for
co-location
and
at
the
existing
site
we
would
need
to
or
they
would
need
to
improve
that
site.
I,
don't
know
what
that
would
take,
I'm,
not
sure
what
Verizon
has
planned
to
put
on
that
Tower.
A
lot
of
that
has
to
do
with
how
many
antennas,
how
many
radios
it's
it's
heavy,
there's
a
lot
of
wind
loading.
Is
it
just
the
steel
or
is
it
the
foundation?
O
I,
don't
know
the
structural
and
survey
would
need
to
be
done,
I
don't
know
if
that
was
done
or
not,
they
may
be
implants
or
if
they
were
able
to
get
the
specs
from
Verizon
as
to
what
their
antennas
were
and
and
what
those
structural
requirements
would
be
and
if
they
could
improve
the
tower
to
to
those
specs,
but
then
you're
kind
of
in
the
same
boat.
O
So
I
didn't
I,
didn't
not
not
interested
in
the
the
business
side
of
one
or
the
other,
but
I
think
as
if
I
were
as
a
network
engineer
an
RF
engineer
many
years
when
I
look
at
what
is
best
for
the
network.
I
try
to
do
a
very
balanced,
sell
split
because
that's
going
to
be
best
for
the
network
and
when
I
look
at
it
as
your
Council
I,
look
at
what's
best
for
I
think
what
the
citizens
would
benefit
from
and
and
like
they
say
they
got
this
neighborhood
up
to
the
northwest.
O
That
probably
could
use
a
little
better
coverage
too,
and
the
interchange
could
probably
be
covered
partially
well
with
the
Colo
opportunity,
but
probably
not
as
well
as
a
new
tower
would
be.
And,
lastly,
it's
an
opportunity
for
other
carriers
to
co-locate
on
a
new
site
and
also
I.
Think
I've
mentioned
it's
120
foot
Tower
in
an
industrial
area
that
is
full
of
industrial
clutter,
as
it
is
light
poles,
power
lines,
Towers
roads,
all
these
sorts
of
things,
so
it's
hardly
going
to
be
noticed.
J
You
did
I
do
have
a
couple
other
quick
questions,
though
you
had
mentioned
in
your
report
that
you
helped
write
the
ordinance.
Yes,
sir,
can
you
tell
me
with
the
the
motivation
behind
making
exceptions
or
or
acknowledging
exceptions
for
areas
with
low
coverage?
Was
it
meant
to
be
a
general
term,
meaning
low
cellular
coverage
period
or
low
cellular
coverage
of
one
particular
network
provider.
O
Well
in,
in
my
mind,
when
we
wrote
that
5G
was
a
big
thing
and
what
they
were
planning
on
doing
were
every
street
corner,
every
block
was
going
to
be,
and
you
see
them
now.
Still
these
5G
towers
that
they're
plopping
down
on
the
corners
have
y'all
noticed
those,
and
the
point
was
to
try
to
limit
how
many
of
those
Towers
were
happening
and
how
close
they
were,
because
T-Mobile
is
going
to
want
to
do
one
att's
going
to
want
to
do
theirs.
O
Roz
is
going
to
want
to
do
theirs,
and
so
we
were
hoping
that
they
would
try
to
co-locate
on
a
lot
of
these
low
50
foot,
75
foot
5G
Towers
like
that,
are
all
over
the
corners
of
the
neighborhoods
Corners
the
shopping
centers.
You
see
them
now
right.
So
one
of
the
reasons
was:
let's
keep
those
Towers
to
a
certain
limit
and
let's
try
to
force
them
to
co-locate
where
they
can
on
these
small
Towers
I.
O
Don't
know
that
we've
been
very
successful
with
that
because
it
seems
like
they
put
them
up
anyway,
but
that
was
part
of
it
and
then
I,
then
I
I
I,
think
I
ended
in
my
my
discussion
that
the
purpose
of
this
whole
effort
is
to
take
a
look
at
opportunities
and
what
makes
sense
not
to
just
say
this,
is
it,
but
that
we
would
have
this
discussion
about
what
makes
sense
and
in
my
mind
this
serves
the
community
better
and
it
offers
co-locations
for
other
Tower
other
carriers
when
they
need
those.
J
I
just
have
one
final
question:
the
applicant's
argument
is
that
they
shouldn't
be
forced
to
wait
for
any
improvements
to
to
have
to
co-locate
on
the
on
the
other
Tower
and
then,
of
course,
the
protest
is
that
they're
willing
to
make
these
improvements
and
allow
that
to
take
place?
Is
it
typical
that
whenever
there's
a
just
a
standard,
two
parties
agree
to
co-locate
that
there
has
to
be?
Some
modifications
is
some
of
that
just
standard
anyway,
that
there's
a
waiting
period
to
have
those
improvements
made
well.
O
Most
of
the
time
people
they
build
a
three
carrier
pole
anyway,
at
least
they're
ready
for
three
carriers
they're
structurally.
When
they
buy
the
steel,
they
build
a
foundation.
They
do
it
and
they're
going
to
put
x
amount
of
antennas
a
couple
of
microwave
dishes,
all
this
stuff
at
three
different
center
lines
on
a
tower
and
that's
what
they
buy
the
steel
for
and
that's
what
they
build
the
foundation
for
anything
that
goes
beyond
that
they're
going
to
have
to
either.
O
You
know,
drop
the
tower,
build
something
fatter,
bigger
around
right
or
they're,
going
to
have
to
try
to
strap
on
some
sort
of
Steel
on
the
outside
of
the
Tower,
which
at
the
same
time
means
the
other
carriers
have
to
take
their
stuff
off
or
do
something
right
in
the
meantime,
while
they're
modifying
this
Tower,
so
you
know
whatever
that
process
is
that
they
have
to
structurally
improve
the
tower.
There
is
a
there
is
an
effort
there
that
so.
J
I
just
wanted
to
know
how
much
of
of
adding
or
co-locating
was
a
process
of
making
improvements
in
general
versus
the
improvements
they
would
need
to
make
to
this
specific
Tower
to
allow
Verizon
well.
O
And
then,
once
once,
you've
got
three
carriers
on
there,
then
typically
you're
going
to
have
to
modify
the
tower
most
likely
they
just
if
you're
going
to
put
a
fourth
or
fifth
carrier
on
there
or
they're,
going
to
put
a
big
giant.
You
know
antenna
on
there
like
there
is
out
there
now
on
one
of
them.
O
Those
things
are
heavy
and
they
take
a
lot
of
wind
and
so
the
other
part
too
in
structural
towers,
and
these
guys
they're
all
Tower
guys
they
know
better
than
me,
but
these
wind
loading
requirements
change
all
the
time
too
we're
in
revision,
G
or
H
or
something
now
so
every
time
they
do
these
new
wind
revisions
and
somebody
wants
to
go
on
the
tower.
Well,
it
fails
structural,
so
you're
going
to
have
to
pay
to
improve
the
tower.
O
So
it's
a
it's
a
typical
thing
anymore:
to
have
to
pay
to
get
structural
improvements
done.
A
M
Mr
chairman
do
do
we
have
any
statement
from
the
board
on
whether
that
was
a
variance
was
considered.
Whether
variance
was
required
under
these
circumstances
and
whether
that
was
approved
or
denied
No
statement,
No
statement.
D
P
Randy
Hill
and
I
represent
Juan
Escobar,
the
owner
of
the
property,
and
we
are
asking
for
a
variance
on
this
side.
We
believe
that
it's
particularly
peculiar
and
the
fact
that
this
40
acre
tract
is
not
40
acres,
because
it's
located
within
a
short
section
and
it's
actually
39.547
acres
and
as
a
result,
in
order
to
develop
it
under
the
code.
The
double
a
agricultural
regulations
which
permit
five
acre
tracks,
the
one
Trend
will
be
shorter
than
five
acres.
A
D
Q
This
is
a
property
that,
for
the
better
part
of
three
years,
was
abandoned
and
and
unsecured
and
on
those
on
those
special
lists
from
the
city
and
after
some
time,
I
was
able
to
offer
a
solution
to
the
former
former
homeowner.
We
made
some
modest
improvements
and
I'm
super
excited
to
offer
this
as
a
home
sharing
option
and
one
of
the
best
neighborhoods
Oklahoma
City
has
to
offer
the
reason
why
I'm
seeking
the
special
exception
for
Home
Sharing
is.
Q
I
Q
Q
Q
Right
I
understand,
I,
think
this
board
has
authority
to
to
to
offer
up
to
10
years
for
special
exception.
Q
The
whole
purpose
behind
that
is
to
one
mitigate
additional
costs
or
application
fees,
but
also
save
everybody,
some
time
and
headache
there.
But
you
know
happy
to
hear
from
you.
If
there's
any
special
considerations,
I
can
take
into
account
that
would
that
would
earn
that
that
five-year
exception.
A
B
R
Hi
I'm
Amy,
allwater,
Diaz
and
I
live
at
825
Northwest
16th
Street.
This
property
is,
although
it
has
a
different
address,
it's
on
our
property
of
our
main
house.
It's
just
a
garage
apartment.
We've
got
a
garage
on
the
front,
a
little
Studio
efficiency
apartment
in
the
back,
and
so
we
are
seeking
a
Home
Sharing,
short-term
rental,
Home
Sharing
permission
for
that
apartment.
That's
just
in
our
backyard.
A
A
S
A
R
C
I
want
to
make
a
motion
on
three
years
unless
one
of
you
guys
wanted
to
make
it
for
Less
I'll
move
it
as
make.
The
motion,
as
as
stated
motion
to
approve
case
number,
one:
five,
one:
seven:
zero
for
the
purposes
that
it
meets
the
statutory
requirements
for
a
special
exception.
A
T
C
B
C
U
Hello,
my
name
is
Rob
Gruber.
My
address
is
5600
North
May
and
we
are
on
behalf
I'm
on
behalf
of
9919
LLC,
applying
for
this
special
exception
for
Home
Sharing.
U
As
I
said,
my
name
is
Rob
Gruber
I'm,
one
of
the
owners
of
9919
LLC,
which
owns
the
property
situated
at
3158
Thornridge
Road
I'm,
aware
of
some
of
the
opposition,
letters
that
were
received
by
the
board
and
I
feel
like
it's
necessary
to
give
some
background
on
who
it
is
standing
before
you
all
today,
I'm
a
lifelong
resident
of
Oklahoma
City,
as
is
my
wife.
We
both
attended
and
graduated
from
Oklahoma
City
University
and
our
undergraduate
and
Graduate
Studies.
U
Our
three
children
were
born
in
Oklahoma
City
we've
lived
in
Quail
Creek,
which
is
where
this
property
is
situated.
The
neighborhood
Quail
Creek
for
the
better
part
of
a
decade
we're
the
highest
level
members
of
quail
Creek's
voluntary
homeowners
association
were
members
of
the
Quail
Creek
Country
Club,
my
wife,
Sheridan
and
I
opened
a
business
at
North
Park
Mall
several
years
ago,
specifically
for
women
and
their
children.
In
the
area
which
remains
in
operation,
you
can
find
The
grubers
Walking.
U
Our
dog,
through
the
neighborhood
playing
and
coaching
Sports
in
the
park
attending
various
events
held
in
the
neighborhood
and
at
the
club,
9919
LLC,
is
a
family
company
owned
by
myself
and
my
brother-in-law,
David
Price,
who
was
here
earlier.
He
had
to
attend
to
another
issue.
Mr
Price
lived
in
Quail
Creek,
his
entire
childhood.
He
attended
Quail
Creek
Elementary.
His
parents
continue
to
live
in
Quail
Creek
to
this
day.
Not
only
are
we
a
part
of
the
past
and
present
of
Quail
Creek?
We,
along
with
our
families,
are
the
future
of
Quail
Creek
as
well.
U
991-9919
LLC
is
one
of
several
successful
businesses
owned
and
operated
by
myself
and
Mr
Price,
all
of
which
remain
profitable
in
good
standing
and
are
in
full
compliance
with
local
state
and
federal
law,
along
with
our
businesses
Focus
solely
on
oil
and
gas,
both
here
in
Oklahoma
and
in
Texas
and
New
Mexico.
We
also
own
and
operate
16
other
Residential
Properties
in
Oklahoma
City.
U
We
take
pride
in
providing
safe,
secure
and
affordable
housing
for
all
of
our
tenants,
and
we
have
an
excellent
support
staff
that
communicates
with
us.
If
our
tenants
or
neighbors
have
needs
the
most
recent
example
providing
rent
assistance
from
our
own
pockets
for
a
tenant
diagnosed
with
cancer
and
needing
time
off
from
work
to
seek
treatment,
we
are
not
a
faceless
company
obsessed
with
profits.
We
are
human
beings
with
families
that
want
to
provide
a
service,
since
we
are
fortunate
enough
to
do
so.
U
U
First,
as
I
made
significant
investment
in
renovating
my
home
in
Quail
Creek,
my
family
and
I
needed
to
move
out,
it
was
important
to
us
to
stay
close
so
as
to
provide
as
little
disruption
as
possible
to
our
family,
and
our
children's
school
is
just
right
down
the
street.
We
found
little
to
no
options.
The
rentals
that
were
available
were
clearly
operating
as
party
house
rentals.
We
ended
up
spending
time
at
two
different
rentals
that
were
a
terrible
experience
for
many.
U
Many
reasons
later
that
year,
as
my
family
was
vacationing
in
Colorado,
a
storm
in
Oklahoma
City
blew
the
roof
off
of
our
home.
Again,
we
found
ourselves
needing
to
move
out
so
that
workers
could
fix
our
house
uninterrupted.
This
time
we
were
able
to
stay
in
the
house.
9919
LLC
had
just
purchased
on
Thornridge.
It
was
exactly
what
my
family
needed
at
the
time
and
it's
exactly
what
we
know.
Others
in
the
community
will
need
from
time
to
time
as
well.
U
In
fact,
we
were
approached
by
a
family
in
Rose
Creek,
which
is
a
neighborhood
nearby
who
had
heard
about
our
Thorn
Ridge
property
through
Word
of
Mouth.
They
had
experienced
water
damage
to
their
home
and
wanted
desperately
to
call
temporarily
call
3158,
Thorn
Ridge
Road
their
home.
However,
because
we
are
not
yet
set
up
as
a
short-term
rental,
the
arrangement
ultimately
did
not
come
to
be.
We
bought
and
renovated
this
property
with
a
specific
intent
of
offering
it
as
a
short-term
rental,
and
we
did
our
homework.
U
You
may
hear
about
people's
experiences
with
terrible
operators
who
do
not
care
about
their
property
or
the
people
in
the
community
that
are
forced
to
live
with
the
consequences
of
their
careless
management.
9919
LLC
will
not
operate
that
way.
You
will
also
hear
erroneous
interpretations
of
covenants
and
rules.
Some
will
attempt
to
argue
prevents
us
from
offering
a
short-term
rental.
There
is
no
such
rule
against
short-term
rentals
in
the
applicable
covenants.
U
The
confusion
shown
in
some
of
the
protest
letters
you
all
have
demonstrate
how
fear
of
the
unknown
leads
to
an
automatic
emotional
response,
without
a
full
understanding
of
the
issues.
In
fact,
one
of
the
neighbors
who
submitted
a
protest
letter
took
time
to
discuss
the
issue
personally
with
him.
Upon
hearing
my
reasons
for
an
Airbnb
and
my
plans,
that
person
said
quote:
well
good
luck:
if
we
have
them
in
this
neighborhood,
then
I
hope
you
run
them
all
and
quote.
If
that
were
all
they
were
used
for,
I
would
support
it.
U
Additionally,
I
would
like
to
verbally
amend
my
application
by
changing
the
maximum
number
of
guests.
We
converted
one
of
the
bedrooms
that
were
when
we,
when
we
purchased
it
to
additional
living
space.
So
now
there
are
four
bedrooms.
Therefore,
we
will
limit
the
maximum
number
of
guests
to
12
people,
I
believe
in
the
original
application
it
said
16..
In
all
likelihood,
the
tenants
will
be
a
family
like
mine
with
children.
U
Additional
no
parties
will
be
allowed
unless
they
are
family
friendly
and
the
number
of
guests
in
their
conduct
will
be
closely
monitored
by
our
property
manager
and
then,
lastly,
my
application
is
stated
for
a
period
of
three
years
and
we
are
willing
to
revise
that
to
three
years
at
which
time
to
have
a
chance
to
revisit
the
issued
with
the
board
and
anyone
else.
Who
cares
to
be
heard.
U
I'm
also
joined
by
my
Company
CFO
John
Perry
I
mentioned
my
business
partner.
David
Price
had
to
leave.
We
also
brought
counsel
with
us
if,
if
there
are
any
other
questions
that
you
have
for
them
as
well,.
A
V
Hello,
how
you
guys
doing
my
name
is
Brad
Hawley
I'm,
the
HOA
vice
president,
and
there
must
be
a
little
misconfusion
after
listening.
Okay.
A
V
At
a
time,
go
ahead,
we're
certainly
not
here
to
disparage
Mr
Gruber
in
any
way
shape
or
form.
We
are
here
to
let
you
know
that
we
just
received
these
documents.
Last
Friday
we've
only
had
three
business
days
and
we're
seeking
a
continuance
to
notify
the
neighbors
and
look
for
a
path
forward
with
our
Council.
B
A
S
Robin
Ridge
Road.
Can
you
guys
hear
me?
Okay
right
around
the
corner,
you
can
almost
see
my
house
in
this
Photograph.
He
addressed
kind
of
addressed
one
of
the
issues
that
I
had,
which
was
the
number
of
people
that
would
be
allowed
to
live.
S
The
16
really
caught
my
eye
in
a
four
bedroom
house,
and
it
sounds
like
you've,
given
that
some
thought,
but
the
other
thing
was
actually
I'm
speaking
in
support
of
I
think
it
was
of
the
city
report,
said
under
unfavorable
considerations,
the
maximum
number
of
guests
requested
and
also
the
parking
and
I
guess
there
was
supposed
to
be
a
photograph
that
described
the
parking
situation
in
the
material
is.
Is
that
the
photograph
that
is
supposed
to
describe
the
parking.
S
S
I,
don't
think,
would
be
a
great
solution
for
this
corner,
because
it's
a
challenging
intersection
to
begin
with
that
there
are
traffic
lights
there,
but
it's
a
it's
busy
and
I
would
like
like
to
at
least
see
a
side
plan
showing
the
proposed
parking
on
it,
and
that's
just
really
another
reason
for
supporting
what
what
this
gentleman
suggested
of
a
continuance
to
allow
a
little
bit
more
study
on
our
part,
because
I
didn't
see
this
material
until
two
days
ago
and
I'm,
actually
an
architect
by
profession
and
I've,
done
a
lot
of
site
studies
and
site
plans
and
that
kind
of
stuff
and
so
I
think
if,
if
we
could
just
see
something
about
how
the
parking
is
to
be
handled,
that
would
be
a
step
in
the
right
direction
and
also
just
a
little
bit
more
time
for
us
to
discuss
it.
B
W
My
name
is
Blake
Hulse
I
live
at
2933,
Prairie
Rose
Court,
it's
in
Quail,
Creek
I
apologize
for
not
signing
up.
This
idea
of
notice
coming
to
us
rather
late
seems
to
be
a
common
denominator
in
this
particular
matter,
as
this
was
only
brought
to
my
attention
just
before
the
end
of
the
year.
Otherwise,
I
would
have
provided
the
lengthy
written
materials.
W
As
stated
I
was
able
to
download
the
application
off
the
website
this
morning,
and
I
am
here
to
do
one
of
three
things
ask
at
this
be
denied
if
it's
not
continued,
I'm
not
going
to
rehash
the
notice
part,
because
I
can
tell
you
as
the
highest
member
of
the
HOA
membership
myself
a
stock
member
of
Quail
Creek.
W
That
I
also
have
a
vested
interest,
and
so,
if
we
can't
get
it
continued
I'd
like
a
ruling
that
denies
it
if
I
can
get
the
ruling
that
denies
it
there's
some
certain
conditions
to
the
special
exception
that
I
would
kindly
request
and
if
not,
that
works
I'll.
Just
thank
you
for
your
time,
because
I
can't
imagine
being
in
your
shoes,
but
I
would
like
to
go
over
a
few
of
these
points.
W
First
being
the
continuance
which
I
think
we've
already
addressed
whenever
we're
looking
at
denying
this
I
found
it
interesting
that
the
address
he
gave
was
5600.
North
May,
which
is
not
a
residential
address,
I,
can
stipulate
that
he
does
live
in
Quail
Creek,
but
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
aren't
just
don't
feel
right
here.
He
states
that
he
wants
us
to
be
for
single
families
that
are
in
transition.
W
Well,
single
families
in
transition
that
are
going
to
stay
longer
than
30
days
when
they're
running
renovating
their
home
have
water
damage
the
way
I
read
it:
I'm
not
up
to
par
on
Municipal
Code.
But
if
you
have
a
single
family
that
wants
to
stay
in
your
home,
I,
don't
think
a
special
exception
is
required.
W
Maybe
I'm
wrong
on
that,
but
to
have
but
to
sit
here
and
say
that
you're
doing
this
to
fill
a
need
of
the
market
that
can
be
filled
elsewhere
and
you're.
It's
almost
like.
It
was
couched
in
altruistic
terms,
he's
a
buck,
and
I
can
appreciate
that
we
all
have
to
make
some
money,
but
that's
not
what
the
application
says.
The
application
is
for
12
people,
it's
not
limited
to
a
single
family.
W
It
is,
it
is
for
one
night
one
weekend
at
a
time,
and
so
it
it
feels
like
there's
a
this
is
what
I'm
saying
this
is
what
I'm
writing,
but
that
part
notwithstanding
on
the
merits,
I
would
like
to
Echo
a
few
of
the
prior
statements,
which
is
that
coming
westbound
on
Northwest
22nd
122nd.
W
Rather,
when
you
turn
north,
that's
a
blind's
term,
and
if
you
were
to
expand
this
map
out,
you'd
see
Blue
Sage,
which
is
further
to
the
east,
where
they've
actually
had
to
move
the
lamp
post,
because
it's
been
hit
so
many
times
and
just
you
know,
there's
specific
guidance
here
in
you
guys
probably
know
the
code.
4250.1
e
is
a
standard
for
special
exception
approval
and
I'm,
not
going
to
read
them
verbatim,
but
they're
for
post
use
shall
be
in
harmony
not
adversely
affect
not
generate
pedestrian
and
vehicular
traffic.
Well,
12
people.
W
You
know
in
theory,
I
guess
there
could
be
12
cars,
but
but
but
to
be
fair,
we're
probably
talking
about
the
range
of
four
or
five
cars
on
average.
Well
again,
we
don't
know
where
they're
going
to
be
ports,
I
understand
that
you
can
probably
fit
four
or
five
cars
on
there,
but
the
others
are
either
going
to
be
on
the
street
where
again
I'm
not
well
versed
in
the
codes,
but
I
know
that
I've
been
ticketed
for
parking
too
close
to
a
stop
sign
or
or
an
intersection.
W
So
there
are
either
going
to
be
right
there
on
Thorn,
Ridge
or
they're
gonna
have
to
park
on
Robin
Ridge,
and
now
we
have
more
pedestrian
traffic,
which
is
in
opposition
to
what
the
city
code
is
is
is
stating
so
you
know.
Having
said
all
that,
I
would
kindly
request
that
if
we
are
going
to
Grant
this,
we
do
so
under
some
of
the
the
special
conditions
that
are
provided.
Specifically,
let's
limit
this.
W
If,
if
we
are
worried
about
single
families
being
displaced
during
Renovations
for
or
water
damage,
then
let's
limit
this
to
single
families,
and
let's
limit
this
to
a
minimum
of
a
one
week
or
two
week.
Reservation
I
know
that,
speaking
with
some
of
my
other
friends
who
have
dealt
with
this
issue,
many
other
cities
have
limited
one
car
per
bedroom.
W
U
Not
sure
that
I'll
remember
all
the
the
points
I
think
to
address
your
concerns.
I
think
parking
is
because
it's
on
that
hard
Corner
parking
is
not
going
to
be
available
on
the
street.
I
I
see
it
as
kind
of
a
benefit.
To
be
honest,
I
agree,
the
picture
is
not
perfect.
You
can
fit
eight
cars
in
the
driveway
and
garage
combined.
U
So
if
you've
got
two
in
the
in
the
garage,
it's
a
two-car
garage
two
behind
that
and
then
you
can
easily
fit
four
there's
a
Circle,
Drive
I
I,
don't
see
anywhere
where
you
could
park
outside
the
house,
because
it
is
correct
that
there's
a
there's
a
stoplight
there
and
you
can't
close
Park
too
close
to
that
one
point
I
didn't
hear
me
there's
beyond
that
is
actually
the
mailbox
which
you
can't
park
in
front
of
and
so
I
think
all
cars
would
be
parked
there
I'm
struggling
to
remember
everything.
U
My
grandfather
was
not
born
here.
My
father
immigrated
here,
I
actually
heard
another
person
say
that
grandparents
come
in
from
out
of
town.
My
father's
actually
returned
to
his
home
country
and
had
the
opportunity
to
stay
here
when
he
visited
us
and
our
my
sister
and
her
family
and
my
family
over
the
holidays,
which
is
another
great
thing
we
get
to.
You
know,
use
this
house
for.
A
A
U
X
U
G
U
Think
we
we
did
everything
that
was
necessary,
which
we
thought
was
reasonable
to
inform
everyone
and
I'm,
not
sure
when
I
don't
know,
if
any
of
these
any
of
the
people
it
sounds
like.
Maybe
this
gentleman
lives
close
enough
to
receive
that
notice,
but
we
sent
the
the
addresses
to
the
city
and
the
city
sent
those
notices
out
to
everyone
that
was
within
those
those
boundaries
and
anyone
else.
We
didn't
send
it
to
the
whole
neighborhood,
just
everyone
that
was
within
those
boundaries.
A
A
E
A
U
Do
I
do
yes,
okay
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understood
to
have
a
problem
with
the
continuance.
Obviously,
I'd
love
to
get
the
ball
rolling.
We
bought
this
property
months
ago
and
we've
spent
a
considerable
amount
of
money.
Updating
it
and
and
put
investing
in
it.
U
I
should
say
so:
we'd
love
to
get
the
ball
rolling
on
it,
but
if
It,
ultimately,
what
we're
seeking
is
permission
to
do
what
we
feel
is
lawful,
so
if
it
takes
a
little
bit
more
time,
then
you
know
we
made
the
investment.
Knowing
that
there
were.
U
You
know
some
some
bumps
in
the
road
that
may
occur,
and
so,
if
that's
what
it
takes
to
get
it
done,
then
I
I,
don't
know
how
my
business
partner
is
going
to
feel
with
me
saying
it,
but
he
I
think
you
know
we
could
live
with
it.
Certainly.
S
Because
I
would
like
to
have
some
discussions
with
you
about
the
specifics
of
it
again.
It's
a
threshold
Corner
into
the
neighborhood,
probably
one
of
the
most
challenging
Corners
coming
into
the
neighborhood,
and
we've
lived
there
for
I
guess
almost
10
years,
and
we
just
like
to
get
it
into
more
of
the
I
mean
like
if,
if
that
whole
front
yard
is
parking
like
that's
the
first
thing
you
see
when
you
go
into
the
neighborhood,
so
it
becomes
kind
of
an
aesthetic
issue
too.
S
So
just
emphasize
our
desire
for
the
continuance
for
the
discussion
to
continue
as
Mr
Voorhees
had
suggested.
I.
Think,
okay,.
I
Yeah
and
look
sorry
before
you
start
yeah
can
staff
give
him
the
idea
of
when
that
continuance
is
going
to
be.
A
A
U
Responding
you.
U
I
live
here,
I
plan
on
living
here
for
the
for
the
foreseeable
future.
I
don't
want
to
not
get
along
with
my
neighbors
I
really
do
think
that
it'll
be
a
a
good
experience
for
everyone
that
can
benefit
the
neighborhood
and
I,
wouldn't
do
it
otherwise,
because
I
do
run
the
risk
of
really
truly
upsetting
people,
and
so
we
want
to
do
everything
that
we
can
to
make
sure
that
this
is
run
the
right
way,
and
you
know
we.
U
We
recognize
that
there's,
maybe
some
some
some
discussions
that
need
to
be
had
and
whether
that
requires
a
continuance
or
not
I.
Think
it's
going
to
be
kind
of
a
ongoing
process
to
make
sure
that
we're
you
know
doing
things
the
right
way,
so
I
appreciate
the
time.
Thank
you.
C
My
only
recommendation
would
be
I
I'd
like
to
not
to
go
against
what
your
recommendation
is
of
six
weeks,
but
I.
Think
four
weeks
is
more
than
sufficient
for
the
HOA
to
meet
with
their
Council
for
the
the
neighbors
to
meet
with
him.
So
I
mean
if
there's
a
way
we
can
get
them
in
on
February
2nd.
That
definitely
would
not
be
opposed
to
that
I
I
think
this
is.
C
The
conversation
has
already
been
started
and
I
think
that
that's
going
to
put
I
guess
a
little
bit
of
a
urgency
on
all
parties
to
get
this
done
in
month.
But
that
would
be
my
recommendation.
C
A
A
C
Okay,
yeah
all
right
motion
to
defer
case
number:
let's
see
what
which
one
was
this
one
one:
five
one
nine
two
correct.
B
C
Okay,
okay
case
number,
one
five,
one:
nine
two:
that
we
refer
that
to
the
February
2nd
Board
of
adjustment,
hearing
meeting.
Z
Good
afternoon
Chris
Cotner
attorney
here
in
Oklahoma,
City
17517
Melville
Lane,
Edmond
Oklahoma,
but
it's
that
portion
of
north
of
Quail
Springs
that
developers
got
the
Edmund
mailing
addresses
for
so
it's
Oklahoma
City.
You
all
have
had
the
application
and
I'll
just
hit.
A
couple
highlights
the
the
house,
the
majority
owners
of
the
LLC
are
Robert
and
Elizabeth
horitz,
their
retired
Tinker
Air
Force
Base.
They
lived
here
for
a
long
time
when
they
retired
they,
they
retired,
to
Colorado
they
resided
in
Bethany
Oklahoma
for
about
10
and
a
half
years.
Z
This
house
is,
is
pretty
it's
a
pretty
cool
house,
I've
not
been
inside
it
yet,
but
I've
driven
by
it
a
couple
times.
It's
nice
and
big.
It's
got
a
nice
front
on.
It's
got
two
entrances.
It's
gated.
Any
parking
issues
are
alleviated
by
the
fact
that
you
can't
park
on
overholser
and
the
fact
that
it's
on
almost
three
acres
and
the
parking
is
is
adequate.
Z
It's
on
the
east
side
of
the
lake,
and
so
it's
facing
the
lake
and
so
I
can
imagine
that
people
who
visit
and
stay
there
will
provide
them
with
spectacular
views
of
the
Oklahoma
sunsets
that
they'll
go
home
and
talk
about
it's
eight
bedrooms,
17
000
square
feet.
The
maximum
them
will
be
16
guests,
two
per
room.
It
will
not
be
temporarily
rented
to
each
room.
Z
The
the
restrictions
that
they're
going
to
abide
by
is
is
that
it's
going
to
be
rented
to
families
or
groups
of
people
not
like
you're,
not
going
to
have
two
strangers
in
one
room
and
two
strangers
in
another
room:
they'll
advertise
on
Airbnb
VRBO,
there's
a
letter,
I
believe
from
Robert
esker
III
that
was
submitted.
He's
been
the
caretaker
out
there
since
April
of
2017
on
behalf
of
Lou
and
Jennifer
McGinnis,
who
were
the
former
owners.
It's
been
used
by
the
McGinnis
family
and
friends
and
and
guests.
Z
It's
not
been
a
primary
residence
for
over
a
decade
and
I
do
believe
that
currently
the
Oklahoma
City
city,
Sisters
organization
meets
out
there
for
their
monthly
meetings
and
dinners,
and
you
know
on
a
personal
note.
It's
just
south
of
that
River
Sports
over
holster
headquarters
and
as
some
as
a
I'm
going
to
be
a
proud
father
for
a
second
as
father
of
a
daughter
who
worked
her
way
from
camp
counselor
over
three
Summers
to
a
raft
guide
at
River,
Sports
I
think
it's
one
of
the
coolest
things
that
Oklahoma
City
has
to
offer.
Z
So
we
would
ask
that
you
all
approve
this
application
and
to
Mr
Noble
I
heard
you
asked
this
question
a
couple
times.
They
currently
have
a
home
sharing
home
in
Bethany
and
I
believe
there's
a
letter
from
one
of
the
neighbors
as
to
their
maintaining
that
Home
Sharing
Arrangement
and
a
very
satisfactory
manner.
A
C
Real
quick
have
they
contemplated
a
at
least
a
maximum
number
of
vehicles
with
16
guests,
which
at
first
I
was
like
that's
a
lot
and
then
I
realized,
there's
eight
rooms,
so
that's
more
than
I
think
fair
to
request
for
16,
but
we're
talking
about
the
number
vehicles
that
it
will
require.
I
mean.
Is
there
a
certain
number
that
they're
envisioning?
Can
they
take
on
a
10
12
vehicles
on
that
property.
Z
They
could
take
on
eight
to
eight
to
ten.
Again,
you
can
see
the
the
picture
there
there's
more
than
adequate
room
out
there.
There's
the
garage
area,
in
fact,
when
I
I
drove
by
there
one
more
time
before
I
came
out
here
and
there
was
five
or
six
large
Vans
I
think
they're
doing
some
Renovations
that
were
parked
there
and
you
could.
You
could
barely
even
tell
anybody.
Was
there.
C
C
I
really
appreciate
the
self-imposed
rules.
My
only
I
don't
know
how
many
years,
knowing
that
they
have
another
one
I
realized
that
there
was
not
any
objections
here,
definitely
open
to
to
one,
but
I
can
definitely
consider
doing
two
I
just
don't
know
what
the
other
board
members
may
consider
interviewing
the
application.
C
To
that's,
that's
my
only
concern,
otherwise
I
probably
would
do
too
knowing
that
they
already
have
another
one.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
make
a
motion
for
for
what
you
prefer.
C
I
I
I,
fully
understand
and
comprehend
right,
a
business
owner
or
I
guess
an
owner
of
Reynolds,
also
myself,
but
certainly
understand,
I'm
going
to
make
this
suggestion.
Z
G
Afternoon
I'm
Randall
Henderson,
my
address
is
1208
West
Camellia
way
in
Mustang
we're
seeking
a
special
exemption
for
property
at
1140,
Northwest
36th
street.
It's
be
our
first
time
doing
home
sharing.
We
had
our
learning
as
we
go
as
we
go
here.
I
think
on
the
application.
I
didn't
know
what
the
standard
was
so
I
asked
for
10-year
exemption.
So
obviously
it's
much
less
than
that
which
we're
certainly
open
to
overall.
C
It's
a
quick
question
on
the
maximum
number
of
guests
with
five
bedrooms:
how
do
we
get
to
12.
12
people.
B
C
Looks
awesome
from
the
outside,
so
you
are
correct
that
I
would
be
willing
to
support
the
motion
for
a
period
of
one
year.
Correct
motion
to
approve
case
number
15196
for
the
purposes
that
it
meets
the
statutory
requirements
for
a
special
exception,
subject
to
the
self-imposed
rules
as
well
as
subject
to
a
one-year
period.
A
AA
C
All
right
motion
to
approve
I,
just
just
to
let
you
know
in
advance,
we
are
gonna.
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
for
a
period
of
one
year
and
then,
let's
see
how
it
goes
for
that
one
year,
but
motion
to
approve
case
number
15197
for
the
purposes
that
it
meets
the
statutory
requirements
of
a
special
export,
a
special
exception,
subject
to
the
self-imposed
rules
in
a
period
of
one
year.
AB
Hi,
my
name
is
Scarlett
leakau
on
behalf
of
Omega
Investments
I
am
not
as
good
as
speakers
at
the
previous
people
and
I'm
worried
that
my
car
down
there
is
already
expired,
two
hours
so
I
I,
don't
know
I'm
kind
of
trembling
right
now,
yeah.
So,
yes,
this
is
the
duplex
that
we
bought
of
1909
and
190
1911
Northwest
18..
When
we
bought
it.
It
was
in
a
very
rough
shape
and
we
have
to
put
a
new
Electrical
Plumbing
and
basically
everything
new
for
it.
AB
It
has
two
bedroom
on
one
side
on
each
side
and
have
a
large
parking
at
the
front
that
can
fit
up
to
four
cars.
I.
Believe
yes,
and
now
we
are
very
familiar
with
Home
Sharing.
We
have.
We
have
extensive
staff
and
also
other
partners
to
take
care
of
our
properties.
These
are
properties.
Are
we
have
to
do
maintenance
routinely
maintenance,
every
quarterly
or
even
like
weekly?
Sometimes
the
lawn
I
mean
more
every
single
week,
and
we
we
use
professional
professional
generatory
to
clean
it.
Every
single
guest
moved
out.
Also.
AB
We
have
a
lot
of
Technologies
behind
to
keep
it
under
control.
For
example,
like
we
have
identifications
identificating.com
to
verify
for
ID
background
check
behind
before
they
can
move
to
the
house.
We
also
have
Alberto
lock
to
convert
automatic
block
code,
every
single,
every
single
guest
to
come
in
and
also
we
have
the
called
the
sensors.
AB
It's
called
the
neat
tatmo
sensors
at
every
property
is
means,
basically
it
can
censor
the
noise
and
it
will
alert
to
our
property
managers
and
we
can
automatically
cancel
the
reservations
and
change
the
lock
immediately
to
move
them
out.
Honestly,
we
work
the
best
to
protect
the
properties
and
we
have
worked
so
hard
to
improve
lots
of
neighborhood,
because
we
we
love
Oklahoma
City.
AC
AC
C
You
have
any
as
far
as
like
time,
restriction
quad
hours
on
your
other
listings,.
AB
AB
C
Okay,
that
was
not
on
the
application.
What
what
does
it
tend
to
what
time
seven
or
eight
in
the
morning?
Yes,.
C
Yeah
I,
knowing
that
you've,
if
the
other
properties
are
being
managed
by
by
the
same
company,
definitely
and
leaning
towards
two
years
and
see
how
this
one
goes
in
the
area
so,
but
also
with
the
the
quiet
hours
from
10
P.M
to
8
A.M
being
added
in
there.
Yes,.
AC
C
Any
other
comments.
Okay,
then
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
case
number
one:
five,
one:
nine
eight
for
the
purposes
that
it
meets
the
statutory
requirements
for
a
special
exception,
subject
to
the
self-imposed
rules
and
then
adding
also
that
quiet
hours
shall
be
from
10
pm
to
8
A.M
and
that
the
term
of
year
shall
be
two
years.
AC
AC
A
AB
A
AB
C
A
AB
AD
So
each
one
is
a
little
different.
This
one
is
currently
a
long-term
rental.
It's
currently
undergoing
a
make
ready.
So
it's
getting
a
pretty
big
renovation
to
the
kitchen
and
bathroom
while
going
through
that
process
we're
getting
approval,
so
we
can
hopefully
convert
it
to
a
short-term
rental.
Okay,
do
you
want
me
to
go
ahead
and
run
through
the
other
ones
now,
or
do
you
want
to
do
them
individually?
So.
C
AD
1615
land
has
been
I
believe
for
a
year
and
a
half
740
Northeast
36th
I,
believe
that
that
one
started
being
a
short
terminal
in
January
of
2022..
Okay,.
C
A
C
And
you
said:
you're
our
property
manager.
Yes,.
AD
AD
C
B
C
C
Motion
to
approve
case
number
one:
five,
two:
zero
one
for
the
purposes
that
it
meets
the
statutory
requirements
for
a
special
exception,
subject
to
the
self-imposed
rules
and
then
and
adding
quite
our
Shelby
from
10
P.M
to
8am
and
for
a
term
of
two
years.
AD
Yeah
this
one's
the
most,
so
it's
a
duplex
the
right
side,
but
she
is
one
of
the
like
coveted
people
who
bought
a
van
and
started
traveling
the
country.
So
she
like
kind
of
lives
in
a
van
kinda
lives
in
this
duplex.
So
his
other
side,
her
desire
to
make
it
a
short-term
rental
is
so
that
when
she's
in
town,
her
mom
and
sister
can
come
be
in
town
too,
they
can
all
see
each
other.
AD
A
C
D
C
AD
A
AD
B
C
AD
So
we'd
like
to
do
a
short
terminal
on
each
side,
our
goal
would
be
to
outfit
it
to
cater
to
traveling.
Professionals
seems
to
be
a
shortage
for
that.
Our
other
one
bedrooms
book
out
exceptionally
well.
AD
D
AD
I
submitted
to
I
just
assumed
that
only
one
was
on
this
docket
since
I
had
some
get
deferred,
but
I.
D
C
B
AD
AD
C
AE
AD
I,
don't
think
so
I
do
they
have
to
do
that
at
mine
on
7
40,
because
so
my
other
short-term
rentals
at
7,
40
Northeast
36th,
it's
a
single
car
driveway
and
it
faces
36,
so
they
don't
like
they
have
to
park
there
and
since
I
put
it
in
the
description,
it
hasn't
been
an
issue
like
with
Airbnb
you're
able
to
put
a
memo
in
that
they
have
to
read
before
they
book.
C
C
That's
yeah
I'm
kind
of
curious
to
see
the
driveway
situation
so
but
okay
motion
to
approve
case
number
one,
five,
two:
zero
four
for
the
purposes
that
it
meets
a
statutory
requirements
for
a
special
exception,
subject
to
the
self-imposed
rules
and
also
adding
quiet
hours
from
10
pm
to
8
A.M
for
a
term
of
one
year.
D
E
AD
I
think
the
only
thing
that
might
be
helpful
to
know
in
this
one
is
that
it's
a
fourplex.
They
only
intend
to
switch
one
to
a
short
terminal.
They're
from
Oklahoma
originally
live
in
the
owners
of
this
property
from
Oklahoma,
but
they
live
in
Utah,
so
they'd
like
to
have
one
as
a
short-term
rental.
So
when
they're
in
Oklahoma
with
family,
they
can
crash
there
instead
of
with
Mom
and
Dad.
AD
AD
A
C
Okay,
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
just
to
let
you
know
it's
going
to
be
one
year.
I'm
these
one-way
one.
Car
driveways
are
a
little
bit
of
concerned,
just
kind
of
see
how
the
tenants
play
well.
Okay,
if
they
play
well
over
the
year
motion
to
approved
case
number,
one
five,
two:
zero
seven
for
the
purposes
that
it
meets
the
statutory
requirements
for
a
special
exception,
subject
to
the
self-imposed
rules
and
also
subject
to
quiet
hours
from
10
pm
to
8
AM
for
a
period
of
one
year.
AD
I
am
per
owner,
and
this
one
as
well.
It
looks
pretty
different
now
than
it
does
in
the
photo.
So
there
is
a
driveway.
It
is
set
back
pretty
far
from
the
property,
so
full
transparency
I,
could
totally
see
guests,
ignoring
that
and
parking
in
the
street
out
front.
AF
AF
AF
I
have
lived
in
this
house
since
July
of
2021
I
received
my
County
property
taxes
at
that
address,
I
get
the
city
Bill
water
bill
and
everything
at
this
address.
I
did
contact
your
office,
and
the
lady
said
that
the
information
was
sent
to
46
residents
in
the
area
and
that
she
looked
mine
up
and
it
had
been
sent
to
my
old
address
at
Southwest
112th
Street,
and
that
was
a
concern
of
mine-
is
why
I
didn't
receive
it.
AF
Even
you
know:
I
owned
this
home,
my
brother
and
I
own,
the
home,
so
I
didn't
get
a
lot
of
notification
about
the
meeting
and
what
was
happening
so
the
lady
said
well
they'd
check
and
see
what
format
they
used,
but
that
was
kind
of
my
question.
Well,
if
I
have
City
information
or
has
the
correct
information,
the
county
has
correct
information.
Then,
who
does
not
have
the
correct
information
anymore,
that
it
was
sent
to
my
old
address?
AF
AF
The
person
that
owns
this
property
I,
don't
know
if
he
is
ever
around
to
do
anything
with
the
property
the
people
that
I
have
visited
with
that
live.
There
have
have
complained
and
said
you
know
he
is
not
really
taking
care
of
upkeep
and
things
that
need
to
be
replaced
repaired.
AF
The
units
themselves
have
not
been
painted
in
several
years.
They
do
minimal
yard
work,
they
mow
the
grass
and
that's
about
it.
AF
I
asked
them
to
trim
some
trees
because
they
allow
the
trees
to
go
over
the
sidewalks,
and
so
people
can't
even
walk
up
and
down
the
sidewalk
on
12th
Street,
and
so
the
the
man
that
the
maintenance,
Yard
Man,
actually
trimmed
those
trees
down
for
me,
since
I
visited
with
him
and
I
had
sent
a
notice
to
the
City
action
before
about
them,
not
taking
care
of
the
property
with
the
yard.
AF
So
since
the
owner
doesn't
seem
to
be,
might
have
much
interest
in
this
and
he's
turned
it
over
to
a
property
management
group
I,
don't
know
whether
they're
responsible
for
the
upkeep
of
the
units
or
not.
Having
said
all
of
that,
because
my
house
and
this
unit
is
in
my
backyard,
I
am
concerned
about
people
living
there
or
coming
in
you
know
like
for
a
day
or
two
at
a
time
leaving
or
the
place
being
vacant
for
the
rest
of
the
time
and
of
how
that
will
affect
you
know.
AF
If
someone
comes
in
there
well,
they
have
clear
view
of
my
backyard
and
my
garage
all
the
things
I
own
back
there.
You
know
what's
to
keep
them
from
helping
themselves
to
something
in
my
yard
and
then
leaving
and
then
I
have
no
recourse.
Then
it
could
be
become
a
well.
He
said
she
said.
Well,
no,
it
really.
You
know,
how
can
you
prove
it
was
there?
How
do
you
know
that
these
are
the
people
that
took
it?
That
type
of
thing
our
neighborhood,
which
my
house
has
been
in
my
family
since
1943.
AF
my
grandparents
bought
the
house?
I
lived
a
block
down
the
street,
so
I
have
seen
this
neighborhood
go
through
good
times
and
really
hitting
rock
bottom.
Where
the
neighborhood
was
in
disrepair.
There
were
you
know:
drug
houses
everywhere.
The
neighborhood
is
coming
back
and
I
would
like
to
see
stability
and
I
have
nothing
against
renters.
The
lady
across
the
street
is
a
renter,
my
other
next
door.
Neighbor
is
a
renter,
but
I
feel
like
that.
People
that
are
there
for
more
than
a
day
or
two
are
going
to
be
more
invested
in.
AF
AD
So
I,
don't
I,
know
you
and
I
have
emailed
about
the
address.
I
am
very
sorry
about
that
and
I'm
looking
into
it
with
the
member
of
my
team,
who
compiles
the
addresses
and
but
I
do
still
have
that
email
in
my
inbox
to
respond
to
you,
Bia
Cynthia,
everything
else,
I,
frankly,
kind
of
agree
with
her.
We
just
took
over
Management
on
this
property,
and
one
of
the
terms
of
us
taking
it
over
was
that
the
property
did
need
to
be
picked
up
a
little
bit.
AD
It
was
already
kind
of
into
fall
season,
but
with
the
agreement
that
in
the
spring
we
would
plant
some
landscaping
and
clean
up
the
backyard
more
and
honestly,
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
she
expressed
so
I
honestly
I
have
no
problem
kind
of
addressing
those
things
and
maybe
putting
a
one-year
requirement
on
it
and
kind
of
letting
the
owner
know
that
that
is
possibly
going
to
be
impacted
by
his
willingness
to
follow
through
on
cleaning
up
the
property
would
help
her
and
me
both.
A
A
C
C
Real
quick
one
of
the
unique
things
is
that
a
lot
of
times
we're
approving
homes
that
have
been
renovated
and
the
fact
that
the
owner
has
allowed
the
rentals
to
to
get
into
that
sort
of
shape.
It's
very
concerning,
and
my
concern
is,
is
one
year
too
long
like
do
we
say
six
months
and
let's
see
if
you
actually
follow
through
with
the
promises
that
he
made
as
far
as
renovating
these
properties
in
the
spring
I.
AD
Will
say,
he's
on
the
electric
panel
on
the
schedule
for
I,
think
it's
Monday,
it's
January,
9th
and
as
well
as
all
the
light
fixtures
and
the
home
I
believe
that
he
just
replaced
the
stove
and
then
just
did
some
cosmetic
stuff
that
isn't
really
going
to
improve
value,
but
just
as
far
as
making
paint
fireplace
loose
bricks,
type
stuff
within
the
unit.
Look
better.
AD
So
on
my
end,
I'm
seeing
good
faith.
But
I
also
understand
that
you
guys,
you
know,
can't
really
operate
off
people's
word.
C
Right
yeah
and
I
mean
had
it
not
been
someone
protesting
about
it,
especially
being
the
person
that
lives
next
door.
And
then
maybe
you
know
a
little
more
apt
to
give
a
one
year,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
I'm
I'm,
almost
leaning
to
towards
saying
for
me
personally
six
months
and
let's
see
where
we're
at
in
six
months.
E
C
AD
AF
I
was
asking
right
now
he
just
wants
to
do
that.
One
bottom
unit,
but
I'm
wondering
you
know
if
he's
if
this
is
approved,
then
is
he
thinking?
You
know?
Oh
well,
okay.
Well,
then,
when
that
person
the
above
when
their
lease
runs
out,
then
I
will
change
it
to
do
the
same
thing
and
even
the
ones
the
two
in
front
or
is
he
just
going
to?
Is
it
just
going
to
be?
What
are
you
whether
you
can
answer
that,
because
once
you
approve
that
one,
the
bottom,
then
it
would
be.
AF
A
C
AD
This
is
just
another,
almost
shotgun
style,
one
bedroom
appeal
for
short-term
rental
and
Ireland
on
this.
One
is
just
it's:
proximity
to
OU
Med.
AD
Term
one
is
short
term,
the
other
is
undergoing
a
lot
or
renovation.
I
think
it
needs
a
lot,
so
it'll
be
a
minute
and
then
it'll
be
long
term.
AD
Currently
vacant,
while
we
get
estimates
from
contractors
to
figure
out,
are
you
asking
about
the
vacant
side?
Well,.
AD
C
AD
Yeah,
so
long-term
tenants
have
just
parked
on
the
street
I
think
there
maybe
was
a
driveway
at
one
point
that
has
just
kind
of
disintegrated
to
gravel,
but
it's
currently
only
three
or
four
feet.
Long
and
kind
of
has
a
shelf
off
of
a
hill
I
would
definitely
not
park
there.
C
Every
time
I
misspell
something
I
I,
always
default
to
the
fact
that
English
is
my
second
language.
So
I'll
say
that
I
mean
is,
that
is
that
a
high
traffic
area.
AD
If
I
were
sitting
there,
I
would
for
sure
Park
just
on
the
street
in
front
of
the
unit,
because
the
other
thing
is,
if
you
park
on
the
what
I
think
used
to
be
a
driveway,
is
that
you're
going
to
be
cutting
off
the
sidewalk?
That's
there,
and
so
any
other
pedestrians
would
be
like
there's
not
enough
of
a
driveway
to
park
there
without
blocking
off.
AD
C
C
You
know
the
questions
motion
to
approve
case
number,
one:
five,
two
one:
zero
for
the
purposes
that
it
meets
the
statutory
requirements
for
a
special
exception,
subject
to
the
self-imposed
rules
and
also
subject
to
quiet
hours,
between
10
pm
and
8
AM
and
for
a
term
of
two
years.
AD
B
C
C
Just
like
you
know
my
emotions
to
me
for
one
year,
just
because
we
don't
know
about
the
other
side
and
see
how
it
goes
just
to
be
mindful
of
them.
So
motion
to
approve
case
number
one,
five,
two
one
one
for
the
purposes
that
it
meets
the
statutory
requirements
for
a
special
exception,
subject
to
the
self-imposed
rules
and
also
subject
to
quiet
hours
between
10
pm
and
8
AM
for
a
term
of
one
year.
C
B
C
Make
a
motion
to
approve
case
number
one:
five,
two
one
three
for
the
purposes
that
it
meets
the
statutory
requirements
for
a
special
exception,
subject
to
the
self-imposed
acceptance,
rules
and
regulations
and
also
subject
to
quiet
hours
being
from
10
pm
to
8
AM
for
a
term
of
one
year.
B
B
AD
D
AG
My
name
is
Dennis
pasterman
I
live
at
525,
Falling,
Sky,
Drive,
Edmond,
Oklahoma
I'm
me
my
wife
own
djp,
Properties
LLC,
and
we
have
the
short-term
rental
3437
Northwest
18th
Street
we've
had
had
it
for
three
years
as
an
Airbnb,
and
this
is
my
renewal.
AG
It
does
allow.
We
allow
six
guests,
we
never
had
a
problem.
The
three
years
I
own
other
airbnbs
in
Edmond
and
in
the
village
we've
had
over
1500
guests,
never
had
a
complaint
from
any
of
our
neighbors
or
from
the
Police
Department
fire
department
whatsoever.
We
don't
allow
parties
of
any
sort.
People
are
required
to
park
and
they're
parked
or
the
driveway
there.
As
you
see
I
know,
both
the
neighbors
took
both
my
sides.
Well,
even
a
couple
other
ones
and
the
one
directly
across
my
the
street.
AG
They
have
my
phone
number,
never
had
an
issue
to
call
me:
I've
never
had
an
issue
to
reach
out
to
them,
and
so
what
we
would
be
seeking
is
a
seven
year
permit.
AG
AG
B
C
A
B
C
AG
AG
Keep
my
neighbors
happy
I'm,
not
looking
to
cause
any
problems
with
my
neighbors,
like
I,
said
they
all
have
my
own,
my
private
home
phone
number,
my
cell
phone,
it's
in
my
best
interest
that,
like
I,
said
to
keep
the
house
looking
good,
we've
updated
it
landscaped,
it
I
mow
the
grass
personally
and
also
me
and
my
wife
clean
each
of
the
houses
ourself
after
every
guess.
So
we
we
have
a
constant
we're
there.
Every
two
or
three
days
keep
an
eye
on
things.
N
C
I
didn't
see
anything
about
quiet
hours,
but
I'll.
Obviously,
all
the
other
ones
have
had
some
sort
of
quiet
hours
in
the
rules.
That's
the
only
thing
that
I
could
probably
add
to
it
sounds
like
five
years
is
going
to
be
a
go
so
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
case
number
one:
five,
two:
two:
zero
for
the
purposes
that
it
meets
the
statutory
requirements
for
a
special
exception,
subject
to
the
self-imposed
rules,
adding
quiet
hours
from
10
P.M
to
8
A.M
and
for
a
term
of
five
years.
B
Y
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Peter.
Gaske
I
live
at
12700,
St
John's
Drive
in
Oklahoma
City.
So
this
is
all
of
our
stuff.
We
have
a
we're
looking
for
a
short-term
rental
on
the
property
at
2316
Northwest
16th
Street.
That
is
not
a
great
picture
of
it,
but
it's
been
completely
remodeled.
We
bought
it
back
in
2020
right
before
covet
hit
with
the
intention
of
making
it
our
first
Airbnb
when
travel
declined,
we
turned
it
into
a
long-term
rental.
Y
I
had
a
buddy
moving
up
from
Houston,
so
he
lived
there
for
the
last
two
years:
we've
since
he
moved
out,
we've
gone
through
and
repainted
the
exterior
just
to
give
it
a
new
pop
and
we
have
one
other.
We
have
16
properties,
most
of
them
long-term
rentals.
We
do
have
one
Airbnb
short-term
operating
in
Norman
right
now,
and
so
we're
looking
for
this
one
and
one
other.
B
Y
C
Y
Oh,
so,
if
if
they
were
over,
we
can
take
that
my
wife
copied
that
from
some
other
Airbnb
to
be
honest,
but
we
can
take
that
out
because
there's
no,
we
don't
want
there
to
be
no
more
than
six
people
ever
staying
there.
Okay,
the
house
would
not
accommodate
it.
Yeah.
Y
C
C
Okay
and
just
some
thoughts
for
you,
I
will
make
the
motion
subject
to
removing
the
the
rights
language
that
potentially
adds
people
quiet
hours
just
to
make
it
as
far
as
10
p.m.
Okay-
and
then
I'll
be
honest,
I'm
going
to
do
it
for
one
year,
just
to
see
how
it
goes
on
on
this
one.
C
So
but
motion
tip
for
case
number,
one
five,
two
two
for
the
purposes
that
it
meets
assessor
requirements
for
a
special
exception,
accepted
to
the
self-imposed
rules,
with
the
addition
that
the
rates
language
for
the
house
rules,
as
stated,
will
be
removed
from
the
advertisement.
Quiet
hours
will
be
adjusted
to
be
10
pm
and
for
a
term
of
one
year.
Y
Y
So,
essentially,
the
same
type
of
arrangement.
This
one
is
a
has
a
third
bedroom
willing
to
obviously
change
the
per
person
and
the
quiet
hours
amending
that
as
well.
The
house
no
longer
looks
like
that.
Either
this
one
we
literally
tore
off
every
bit
of
the
brick.
It's
got
a
brand
new
roof
that
driveway
is
brand
new.
Y
Y
Okay,
so
the
short
answer
is,
it
is
being
rented
out.
It
is
on
a
three-month
lease,
so
it
is
a
long-term
traveling
nurse
who
is
there
and
she's,
but
yeah
she's
on
the
long
term,
she
moved
in
December,
11th
and
she's
there
through
March
12th
I,
believe.
Y
And
I
believe
there's
only.
It
was
only
listed
to
get
the
permit
process
because
we
needed
to
get
the
URL
to
submit
and
then
took
it
down
and
she
hit
it
literally
that
day,
and
so
we
said
it,
we
went
ahead
and
approved
it
because
it
was
a
long-term
rental
and
so
it's
still
listed
because
it's
booked.
But
if
you
look
on
the
calendar,
thank
you.
If
you
look
on
the
calendar,
it's
not
available
until
whenever
that
that
end
date
is.
A
C
AH
Hello,
my
name
is
Irma
Cano
I
live
at
3509,
North,
Kentucky
Avenue
in
Oklahoma,
City
and
I'm,
the
owner
of
546
West,
Hill
Street
I'm,
here
requesting
a
home
sharing
exemption.
This
property
is
two
bedrooms:
two
bath
it
we
plan
to
accommodate
for
five
guests
and
we
have
broken
that
down
as
one
king
bed
in
the
master
bedroom
one
queen
bed
and
then,
if
needed,
one
air
mattress.
So
we've
said
five
guest
Max.
We
do
have
some
rules
and
I've
added
that
into
the
application.
AH
We
have
said
no
parties,
no
events,
no
pets,
and
then
we
do
have
the
exterior
of
the
home,
monitored
with
security
cameras,
and
then
they
do
include
audio,
and
we
did
that
just
so.
We
can
honor
the
guest
limit
and
then
be
able
to
make
sure
that
the
audio
is
being
or
the
noise
is
being
respected.
For
our
neighbors
and
with
guests
there
our
quiet
hours
are
from
10
to
8..
We
are
advertising
that
off
street
parking
is
preferred.
AH
Our
back
street
I
did
not
add,
but
you
can
tell
there
is
a
drive
through
or
driveway
in
the
back,
that's
gated.
It
accommodates
two
to
three
cars
with
the
gate
closed,
so
we
are
preferring
that
for
all
our
all
of
the
guests
and
then
I
do
plan
to
manage
this
property
myself
and
my
mother
I
have
had
some
home
sharing
experience
of
my
own
personal
home,
not
in
a
separate
one,
and
then
my
mother
has
had
20
years
years
of
experience
in
Hospitality,
so
we've
had
a
little
bit
of
experience
with
that.
AH
A
AH
AH
We
have
kind
of
a
separate
area
in
the
middle
of
the
home,
so
it's
it's
like
an
open
kind
of
office
area
that
connects
all
of
the
room
it's
in
the
hallway,
so
it
has
enough
area
to
put
in
the
air
mattress
there.
So
that's
what
we
were
planning
again.
We
were
only
thinking
that
if
it
was
maybe
children,
that's
why
we
did
five
instead
of
six,
so
it
couldn't
be
like
multiple
couples,
just
in
case
a
family
came
and
had
children
and
needed
that
extra
space.
So
that's
what
we
planned.
AH
My
mother,
originally
I,
was
going
to
move
into
this
home,
my
mother,
retired,
and
then
didn't
have
anything
to
do
so.
We
thought
of
having
this
as
a
Airbnb
to
kind
of
give
her
something
to
do
as
well
before
that
she
had
20
years
experience
in
apartments,
so
she
does
have
a
little
bit
of
experience
there.
Obviously
so
she's
going
to
be
completely
managing
that
with
me.
So
that's
what
we
can
bring
to
the
table.
A
C
F
The
owners
live
in
Texas
I
reside
here
locally
and
have
my
own
short-term
rental
hosting
company
been
doing
it
for
about
a
year
now,
I
have
eight
total
properties,
the
owners
have
family
in
town,
and
so
they
are
going
to
be
using
it
personally
often
and
then
just
kind
of
in
the
off
time
allow
tourists
to
come
and
just
enjoy
Oklahoma
City
and
the
growing
community
of
the
wheeler
District
foreign
happy
to
answer
any
questions
from
the
application
and
I
would
like
to
add
that
we
do
have
quiet
hours,
ten
to
seven
I'm
happy
to
change
that
to
eight,
if
need
be,
there's
a
security
camera
on
the
garage.
F
We
do
change
the
code.
Every
time
for
new
guests
parking
is
two
vehicles
and
a
covered,
enclosed
garage
as
well
as
free
parking
in
the
street.
We
do
have
no
parties,
no
pets,
no
smoking.
There
is
strict
vetting
for
the
guests
that
we
allow
it's
a
brand
new
luxury
property,
so
we're
just
trying
to
take
care
of
it.
A
F
May
I
add
one
since
I'm
a
property
manager
and
my
owners
have
several
other
short-term
rental
properties.
We
would
like
to
seek
more
than
a
year
happy
to
have
whatever,
if
you
would
consider
anywhere
from
three
to
five.
That
would
be
wonderful.
F
C
All
right
motion
to
approve
case
number
one,
five,
two
two:
five
for
the
purposes
that
it
meets
a
statutory
requirements
for
a
special
exception,
subject
to
the
self-imposed
rules
with
the
modification
that
quiet
hour
shall
be
from
10
pm
to
a
a
8
A.M
and
then
for
a
term
of
two
years.
AE
Hey
guys,
I
am
Nicholas,
Nguyen
I
reside
at
1148,
Northwest
57th,
Street
I'm,
also
the
owner
of
1312
Northwest
13th
Street,
seeking
requests
for
Home
Sharing,
pretty
straightforterhouse
three
bedrooms
I'm
allowing
six
people
a
single
family
home.
So
the
driveway
is
not
shared
with
the
neighbor.
It's
a
long.
Driveway
actually
fits
up
to
three
cars
if
needed,
it'll
be
a
little
tight,
but
if
it's
no
parties,
three
cameras
and
front
yard
completely
remodeled.
So.
AE
There
is
no
one
in
front
of
that
house.
There's
no
house
there,
it's
just
grass,
so
it's
a
big
street!
That's
why
I
put
Ken
Park
here
on
the
street
the
neighbors
down
there
do
have
cars
parking
at
that
same
street
as
well,
so
I
figure
it's
an
excellent
place
to
park
there
if
needed.
But
the
drive
is
long
enough.
So
I
figured
just
in
case.
A
C
Just
to
let
you
know
one
thing
that
I
not
see
on
there
is
he
probably
gathered
it's
quite
ours.
Did
you
say
you
owned
this?
This
house
yep.
B
C
Do
you
have
any
other
short-term
rentals?
No,
no
yeah
I
wish
you
the
best
so
I'm
going
to
do
it
for
one
term
one
one
year
just
to
let
you
know,
but
hopefully
see
how
it
goes
and
then
try
to
prove
for
for
longer
next
time.
AE
AI
I'm
Phil
Bouchon
here
on
behalf
of
my
wife
Terry.
She
filled
out
the
application
but
she's
sick
with
the
flu
we
live
at
16421
Dustin
Lane
in
Edmond.
AI
I
am
here
for
a
special
exemption
on
this
property
in
Hefner,
Hefner,
Village,
Place,
I'm,
a
home
builder,
Hands-On
contractor
and
handyman
with
35
years
plus
experience
and
my
wife
is
a
realtor
I've
had
rental
properties
since
2000,
and
we
currently
have
three
including
this
one,
and
this
is
our
first
short
short-term
rental
application.
AI
Is
there's
four
units
so
it
has
a
joined
wall.
AI
Wife
got
a
little
carried
away.
She
wanted
to
accommodate
large
families,
so
we
have
a
queen
sleeper.
We
have
a
king
and-
and
they
are
very
big
bedrooms
and
that's
part
of
I-
think
her
impetus,
a
king
bedroom,
a
king
bed
in
the
master
bedroom
a
queen
up
in
one
of
the
guest
rooms
and
bunk
beds
in
the
third
bedroom,
which
are
fulls.
AI
AI
Garage
and
two
two-car
garage,
two
in
the
driveway
and
then
You,
probably
just
see
from
the
map
on
the
curve.
There's
a
there's
one
unit
right
across
from
us,
but
there's
guest
parking
slots,
there's
five
slots
right
directly
across
from
us
and
that
that's
kind
of
the
way
the
the
development
is
set
up
with
guest
slots.
AI
C
Give
you
my
thoughts
and
welcome
input
from
the
other
board
members
also,
but
you
know
I
think
that
based
off
of
that
I
think
possibly
a
maximum
six
for
sure,
but
eight
maximum,
possibly
so
definitely
would
like
their
input
quite
Irish,
ten
to
eight
being
that
it's
a
condo
I'm
a
little
bit
leery
about
wanting
to
kind
of
take
care
of
the
other
owners
and
people
there.
So
I.
T
AI
Always
made
a
very
diligent
effort
to
go
out
and
meet
the
neighbors
tell
them
what
our
plans
are,
give
them
our
business
cards,
which
have
our
cell
phones
on
them
and
with
other
rentals.
You
know,
different
things
may
have
popped
up.
We
we
get
phone
calls
like
I,
said:
I'm
I'm,
the
repair
guy
I'm,
the
remodel
guy
I'm,
the
one
that
gets
a
call
and
goes
and
takes
care
of
things.
So
don't
have
any
problem
with
that.
You
know
it's
just
a
small
setup
for
us.
It's
not
like
some
who
have
multiple
properties.
Okay,.
C
I
At
I
am
also
I
think
being
a
condominium
one
year
is
probably
just
so.
We
can
see
what
the
potential.
AI
AJ
You
got
perfect
okay,
it's
well
done
yeah
good
evening
I'm,
I'm,
Joe,
saber
and
I'm
represented
also
with
Jim
Carroll
who's.
The
past
president
of
Hefner
Village
homeowners
association,
one
and
two,
and
the
current
president
of
Hefner
Village
homeowners
association
for
and
the
reason
for
us
here,
is
because
the
property
in
question
of
butts
on
the
Northern
side
of
Hefner
four.
So
it's
covering
it's
in
the
effect
zone
of
the
two
different
areas
may
I
approach.
AJ
AJ
Oh
yes,
again:
Joe
saber
and
I
live
at
10801,
Dorothy
Drive,
all
right
now,
I
personally
been
involved
in
Hefner
Village
since
the
late
1970s.
My
father's
had
rental
properties
there
from
the
1980s
to
the
current
time
is
rental
properties,
both
in
Hefner
one
two
and
in
four,
and
so
we're
rather
familiar
with
that
and
I'm
sure
you've
seen
numerous
times.
The
current
rental
for
a
one-year
stay
is
about
the
shortest
you
normally
see
in
this
homeowners
association.
AJ
Now
this
is
the
first
time
when
we
got
the
notice
that
anyone
in
Hepner
Village
other
than
the
personal
contacts
you
made,
but
it
was
never
brought
to
the
board
and
in
our
opinion,
that
we
are
a
state
approved,
Corporation,
multi-million
dollar
last
rated,
a
million
or
40
million
dollars
to
53
million
defending,
and
so
we
feel
we
have
a
voice
in
the
bank
and
when
you're
talking
home
sharing.
This
is
a
departure
from
our
single
family
dwellings
that
we
normally
have.
AJ
But
now
the
person
in
question,
of
course,
is
a
homeowner
and
is
such
as
a
member
of
the
homeowners
association.
And
you
look
at
point
two.
You
know
that
gives
you
an
idea
of
what
his
responsibilities
are.
Then,
of
course
we,
if
you
look
at
point
three
one
of
the
things
you're
not
supposed
to
do
in
the
homeowners
association
to
have
a
game
for
business,
earning
money
from
a
property
there
if
you're
living
in
it.
That's
fine.
If
you're
conducting
a
residential
living
near
a
rental
per
year,
that's
fine!
AJ
But
when
you
start
making
it
a
business
that
becomes
an
issue
and
it's
right
in
the
continents
and
bylaws
okay,
then
he
also
liked
me-
and
everyone
else
is
it's:
a
part
of
the
homeowner
association
is
responsible
for
enforcing
the
homeowners
association
through
the
covenants
and
bylaws.
That's
point
four.
Now.
AJ
Concerns
is,
of
course,
if
you
look
at
the
map.
The
main
road
going
down
the
middle
of
Hefner
Village
is
Boulevard.
Boulevard
is
a
public
Street.
All
the
other
streets
are
private
they're,
not
as
wide
they're,
not
as
well
maintained,
in
fact
they're
rated,
all
of
them
a
fire
lane
and
you're
not
allowed
to
park
on
it
based
on
Oklahoma
City
law.
So
when
you
have
a
a
person
invitation
and
we
are
going
to
fill
up
the
two
parking
spaces
at
the
property
rather
quickly,
it's
no
surprise
they're
going
to
park
somewhere
else.
AJ
Now
we
have
some
guest
parking,
but
it's
not
intended
for
people
that
live
there.
It's
intended
for
guests.
That
might
be
a
bit
of
a
problem.
If
you
know
a
homeowner
that
has
a
Home
Care
Program
fills
up
all
the
rental
property,
the
guest
parking
with
their
clients,
and
so
that's
also
a
concern.
These
private
roads
are
not
terribly
wide,
so
new
people
are
going
to
have
a
bit
of
a
challenge
driving
on
them,
because
we've
seen
a
little
bit
of
that
before
you
know
again.
N
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
and
members.
Joe
pretty
well
covered
it
all,
but
I
just
like
to
kind
of
give
you.
N
My
name
is
James
Carroll
I
live
at
9806,
Hefner,
Village,
Drive
I've
lived
there
since
2014.
and,
as
Joe
said,
I
was
the
president
of
the
homeowner
association
and
a
member
there
for
when
I
first
moved
there
for
a
number
of
years
in
there,
like
I,
said
I
still
personally
live
there.
You
know,
Hefner
Village
is
made
up
of
236
families.
We
have
70
buildings,
and
that
includes
our
clubhouse.
We
have
two
pools.
We
have
a
couple
of
tennis
courts
in
there.
N
Our
lots
are
very
small,
a
lot
of
the
houses
that
are
there
in
which
they're
not
I,
heard
the
mention
of
condos,
where
not
condos
we're
Town
Homes.
We
have
legal
description,
all
the
way
down,
which
is
a
big
difference.
Most
of
the
way
the
driveways
are
short.
This
particular
case
right
here.
It's
short
only
two
cars
can
get
in
there,
as
Joe
mentioned
in
there
that
across
the
street
there.
N
N
Our
streets
of
Joe
says
are
they're
narrow,
they're
private
streets,
our
children,
because
we
have,
we
don't
have
sidewalks
our
children
play
in
the
streets,
they
walk
to
school
in
the
street
and
so
the
more
traffic
you
bring
in
there
the
more
of
an
issue.
It
is
so
there
we
said
to
write
down
to
10
people
and
there
are
10
bands
I,
believe
somebody
brought
a
pair
of
eight
beds,
but
is
that
a
cars
is
that
six?
Where
do
these
cars
go?
N
They
can't
go
against
parking
because
technically
they'll
be
liable
to
be
towed
away,
so
they
can't
park
on
the
street.
That's
a
fire
zone.
They
have
parking
for
two.
Now
you
can
say
you
put
them
in
the
garage.
But
what
about
your
trash
cans
that
you
got
to
put
up
those
go
in
the
garage?
You
can't
get
two
cars,
no
scratch,
so
those
those
are
just
generally
the
issues
that
we
have
out
there.
The.
N
Germans
do
in
our
bylaws
and
our
covenants
and
restrictions
which
were
reviewed
and
re-recorded
in
2014
when,
when
I
first
got
out
there
at
Planet
States
in
there
that
we
are
a
single
family
resident
that
were
not
promote
the
family
in
any
way,
shape
and
form
out
there
again
were
town
homes
and
single
family.
It
also
states
that
no
business
may
be
run
out
of
there.
So,
in
my
opinion,
a
Airbnb,
it's
a
business.
N
It's
not
a
home
like
I've
got
or
you,
gentlemen,
have
where
you
live
and
whatnot
it's
there
solely
for
one
purpose
and
that's
to
make
money
and
that
doesn't
belong
at
hefter.
Village
I
don't
have
problems
in
other
places,
but
not
something
like
that
and
again
our
the
notice
that
we
should
have
received
I
checked
with
the
homeowner
association,
the
secretary
treasurer,
and
they
didn't
know
about
this
until
someone
in
the
neighborhood
happened
to
give
them
one.
N
So
you
know
even
our
Homeowner
Association
didn't
know
about
this,
and
that's
why
you
know
I
came
down
and
Mr
sieber
came
down
so
anyway.
I
I,
hope
the
board
considers
this
as
a
residential
area.
We
have
children
there,
we
don't
need
all
of
this
short-term
traffic,
the
Frack
cats,
sorority
sisters
issues
come
into
our
small
community
out
there
so
anyway,
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Mr,
chairman
questions,
I'm.
Sorry,
any
questions.
AJ
N
AJ
That
would
be
the
normal
formal
way
that
we
would
approach
this.
We're
not
adverse
it's
just.
We
don't
feel
that
it's
followed
they're
very
incorrect
path.
You
have
an
important
Mission,
but
we
also
have
a
that
small
town
effect
of
being
rather
in
charge
of
ourselves
since
1974,
when
the
state
of
Oklahoma
made
us
a
corporation.
A
And
I
hate
to
mention
this,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
we
do
not
have
jurisdiction
to
enforce
homeowners,
association
rules
or
covenants
and
restrictions.
I
take
this
into
account,
but
we
can't
enforce
it.
That's
mine.
We
lack
jurisdiction
to
enforce
that
so
I
leave
that
to
you
guys
but
I,
take
it
into
account
as
IT
addresses
the
considerations
in
the
ordinance.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
this
to
our
attention.
It's
just.
We
lack
jurisdiction
to
enforce
it.
AI
I'm
just
going
to
try
to
speak
for
my
wife,
like
I
said
she,
she
filed
the
paperwork
and
and
did
all
the
the
due
diligence,
and
we
certainly
want
to
be
great
hosts
and
neighbors
and
guests,
and
we
certainly
didn't
try
to
go
around
anybody
in
this
process.
Deliberately
I
know
she
being
a
realtor
is
very
diligent
about
reading,
covenants
and
HOA
rules,
so
I
can't
speak
to
what
she
may
have
missed
or
should
have
done
and
in
conjunction
with
our
application
with
you
I
understand,
everybody
always
has
a
concern.
AI
I
do
want
to
say
the
short-term
rental
sentences
kind
of
misnomer.
For
us.
We
don't
want
to
be
in
the
hotel,
motel
business
and
we
currently
have
it
on
a
30-day
or
more
listing
and
that's
what
we
would
prefer
30
60
90.,
it's
a
it
is
a
different
income
level
than
somebody
who
rents
it
for
a
year.
But
let's
be
clear:
if
you're
not
living
in
it,
you're
in
a
business
you're,
making
money
from
your
property,
so
I'm
afraid
that
byline
kind
of
speaks
for
itself.
AI
That's
why
we
try
to
be
proactive
with
the
neighbors
call
us.
If
anything
happens,
you
see
anything.
You
hear
anything.
We
we
have
an
August
lock
installed
on
the
front
door
that
gives
us
notifications
of
activity
of
people
going
in
and
out.
You
know
if
it
all
ends
at
10
o'clock
at
night.
That's
a
good
sign.
If
it's
going
on
two
three
four
in
the
morning,
that's
a
bad
sign.
AI
I
I,
don't
have
any
problem.
I,
don't
think
we'll
have
any
problem
going
down
to
the
eight
guests
notification
just
because
of
the
bedding.
That's
there
currently.
C
Motion
to
approved
case
number
one
five,
two,
two:
nine
for
the
purposes
that
it
meets
attached
to
our
requirements
for
a
special
exception,
subject
to
the
self-imposed
rules,
the
modification
that
the
maximum
number
of
shall
be
eight
people.
Maximum
number
of
vehicles
shall
be
four
quiet.
Hours
will
be
adjusted
from
10
pm
to
8
A.M,
and
this
shall
be
for
a
term
of
one
year
to
reevaluate
in
a
year
to
see
how
things
are
going.
C
C
D
I
do
want
to
say
something,
though,
that
we
Mr
Voorhees.
We
have.
D
To
appoint
a
vice
chair
and
with
our
absence
of
kitty
today,
just
keep
it
on
our
mind
for
next
of
who
may
want
to.
I
E
AG
E
I
would
also
like
to
raise
a
point
for
your
consideration
with
regard
to
new
home
share
applications.
B
D
B
X
B
X
Stuff
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
who
it
was,
and
your
name
showed
up.
L
C
C
D
Next
meeting
in
January
was
canceled,
so
it's
February,
2nd.