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From YouTube: Oklahoma City Urban Design Commission - July 22, 2020
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The regular monthly meeting of the Oklahoma City Urban Design Commission, via video conference, for July 22, 2020.
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Thank
you
welcome
to
the
July
22nd
2020
meeting
of
the
urban
design
commission.
This
meeting
is
being
held
by
videoconference.
My
name
is
Lee.
People's
on
the
chair
of
the
Commission.
No
physical
location
will
be
provided
for
the
urban
design
commission
meeting.
The
meeting
will
instead
be
live
streamed
from
remote
locations.
C
We
want
to
request
that
everyone
joining
us
today,
except
Commission
members,
keep
your
mic
or
phone
muted
until
you
are
called
on
to
speak,
as
instructed
in
the
agenda
those
who
called
or
emailed
us
in
advance
to
let
us
know
your
name,
contact
number
and
agenda
item
you
wish
to
speak
about
will
be
recognized
first
before
the
urban
design
Commission
votes
on
each
item.
I
will
ask
if
there
are
many
any
members
of
the
public
that
wish
to
speak.
Anyone
speaking
anyone
speaking
will
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak
since
you
are
muted.
C
When
I
call
on
you,
please
unmute
yourself
on
a
phone.
You
will
press
star
six,
then
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
before
you
speak
on
a
desktop
or
laptop
hover,
your
cursor
over
the
microphone
icon
to
remove
the
diagonal
red
line
for
anyone
speaking
today,
including
Commissioner
mission
committee
members.
Please
identify
yourself
when
you
begin
to
speak.
If
we
lose
our
connection
for
this
meeting,
the
meeting
will
be
stopped
and
reconvene
once
the
connection
is
restored.
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G
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
the
Commission
previously
heard
this
item
at
its
meeting
on
June
24
2020,
a
mushroom
was
made
to
deny
the
application
on
the
basis
that
the
project
does
not
meet
the
regulations,
and/or
guidelines
of
the
urban
design
overlay
district
in
summing
ordinance
as
referenced
in
the
staff
report.
The
motion
to
deny
was
approved
for
2/3.
G
After
the
meeting
the
applicants
contacted
staff
to
review
their
options,
which,
at
that
time,
staff
advised
included
one
to
appeal.
The
decision
to
the
Board
of
Adjustment
to
to
file
a
new
application
or
three
requests
that
the
Commission
consider
rescinding
their
previous
decision
and
consider
the
item
again.
The
applicants
chose
the
last
option.
G
Pursuant
to
article
10,
section
1
of
the
bylaws
for
the
oklahoma
city.
Urban
design.
Commission
states
that
robber's
rules
of
orders
revised
shall
govern
the
urban
design
commission
in
all
cases
to
which
they
are
applicable
and
which
are
not
inconsistent
with
the
bylaws
or
special
rules
of
order
of
the
Commission.
G
Pursuant
to
section
35
or
Robert,
Robert's
Rules
of
Order
revised
an
assembly
can
change
or
cancel
an
action
previously
taken
or
ordered
by
means
of
a
motion
to
rescind,
unless
something
has
been
done
as
a
result
of
that
vote,
that
is
impossible
to
undo
under
your
agenda
item
6a,
you
have
two
sub
items.
The
first
sub
item
is
to
consider
whether
the
Commission
wishes
to
rescind
their
previous
action
taken
on
this
matter.
At
this
time,
the
applicant
would
be
allowed
to
state
their
case
as
to
why
the
commission
should
rescind
their
previous
action.
G
This
discussion
should
be
limited
to
the
reasons
why
the
decision
should
be
rescinded
and
not
get
into
the
merits
of
the
case.
If
the
Commission
votes
to
rescind
the
previous
action,
then
the
Commission
could
proceed
to
the
second
sub
item
and
the
applicant
would
be
allowed
to
present
their
case
on
the
merits
again
for
the
new
vote
on
their
request
to
paint
the
unpainted
brick.
If
the
Commission
votes
not
to
rescind
the
previous
action,
then
the
hearing
on
this
application
is
ended
and
the
second
sub
item
could
not
be
heard.
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I
Appreciate
that
we
have
provided
new
information
with
an
expert
Jeff
Schroeder
he's
also
on
this
call.
He
has
presented
to
UD
staff
about
an
hour-long
presentation
addressing
the
guidelines
are
concerned,
items
a
B
and
C,
and
so
we
have
new
information
that
we
would
like
to
present
to
the
Commission.
Okay.
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H
Probably
recommend
that
you
make
a
motion
one
way
or
the
other.
You
could
make
a
motion,
you
know
if
you
don't
want
to
rescind
it
then
I
would
make
a
motion
not
to
or
if
somebody
wants
to
make
a
motion
and
to
rescind
it,
but
I
wouldn't
probably
try
to
make
a
motion
one
way
or
the
other.
So
it's
clearer
right.
C
E
Performing
product,
so
that
is
that
was
the
purpose
of
my
motion
was
not
so
much
that
the
materials
would
not
perform
the
way
that
they
were
being
presented.
But
more.
That
paint
in
general
is
an
item
that
is
a
high
maintenance.
I
high
maintenance
material
that
can
perform
in
a
variety
of
ways
and
if
we
go
forward
with
allowing
items
to
be
painted
that
it
might
cause
others
to
believe
that
they
could
paint
structures
with
less
quality
materials,
not.
J
E
C
I
think
is
people
learning
about
this
or
seeing
it
and
you
know
going
ahead
and
just
painting
without
following
the
proper
procedures,
we
certainly
see
our
fair
share
of
those
types
of
cases
as
well,
and
those
are
those
were
unfortunate.
So
I
would
agree
with
the
points
that
Commissioner
Blatt
made
any
other
discussion.
I.
A
Just
have
a
question
if,
because
I
think
that
is
a
very
valid
point,
but
I
think
man
I,
like
some
understanding
here,
if
we
did
decide
to
rescind
our
previous
action
and
grant
permission
for
this
structure
to
be
painted.
Does
that
mean
that
we
lose
the
ability
to
not
only
enforce
someone
else,
adhere
to
the
guidelines
and
and
prohibit
them
from
painting?
H
And
this
is
sue
said
yeah.
You
certainly
could
make
a
condition.
You
know
that
it
be
a
certain
quality
or
something
like
that
in
the
CA,
and
you
know
and
make
it
you
know
I
guess
conditioned
upon
a
type
of
product.
You
know
such
as
this.
That
was
not
harm,
pain
or
but
or
whatever
you
decided
that
you
could
condition
your
CA.
E
This
is
Commissioner
Blatt
and
I
think
that
we've
had
similar
types
of
discussions
with
respect
to
artificial
turf
conversations,
and
in
that
regard,
there
were
I
mean
I,
believe
that
that
can
occur
and
in
the
event
that
that
there's
a
motion
made
to
rescind
and
and
listen
to
this
presentation,
I
do
believe
that
that
would
be
very,
very
valid
in
regards
to
how
the
motion
is.
Crafted
I'm,
not
saying
that
a
that
a
correct
product
won't
perform
well
I'm
I'm
more
concerned
about
how
others
might
view
it
going
forward.
J
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D
You
could
still
hear
the
presentation
and
ultimately
deny
it
once
again,
but
they
would
have
the
opportunity
to
represent,
and
then
yes
to
echo
Susan's
comments
that
you
all
review
every
item
and
every
property
on
a
case-by-case
basis
and
if
there
are
specific
circumstances
and
elements
of
this
particular
application
that
you
feel
make
it
appropriate
to
paint
the
brick
that
you
feel
like.
That's
the
right
decision
for
that
property.
That
would
not
officially
tie
your
hands
for
future
cases.
J
This
is
commissioner
turn
ago.
Well,
I'm,
not
a
fan
of
painting,
brick
I,
do
think
that
there
are
circumstances
that
could
could
lead
to
why
we
might
consider
it
and
I
think
as
long
as
it
has
to
come
up
before
the
Commission
each
time
for
individual
consideration,
I
think
it
I.
Don't
necessarily
think
that
this
sets
a
precedent
per
se,
so
just
I
personally,
don't
have
any
objection
to
putting
forward
a
motion
to
reset
and
listening
to
the
new
information
and
see
if
there's
something
that
would
sway
me
to
approve
it.
J
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F
F
C
F
C
I
Thank
you
very
much.
I
would
like
to
introduce
Joe,
Schroeder
and
I
neglected
to
mention
previously
when
you
asked
why
we
should
reconsider
this
previously,
we
did
not
understand,
from
a
brick
experts
point
of
view
the
situation
that
we
have
on
our
project
with
regard
to
the
individual
bricks
and
the
destruction
of
the
fire
skin
that
has
taken
place
due
to
weathering.
So
mr.
I
The
individual
brick
faces
the
last
time
we
focused
on
the
mortar,
which
is
repairable,
and
we
do
plan
to
repair
it
and
now
I
would
like
you
to
see
each
individual,
brick
and
the
remineralization,
the
lack
of
fire
skin,
the
weathering
that
has
occurred
and
the
reason
that
we
need
to
protect
it
with
a
new
skin
and
I'd
like
to
make
comments
to
after
mr.
Joe
Schroeder's
presentation.
If
I
may,
okay.
K
K
K
J
D
G
K
Over
what
I
said
there,
with
a
and
B
we've
put
together
another
presentation
here
that
really
illustrates,
with
up-close
photos,
to
address
how
we
feel
the
fire
skin
has
been
damaged
and
Mason.
The
Maestri
on
this
project
has
lost
a
lot
of
its
original
character
through
through
you
know,
damage
repairs
so
and
then
in
slot
three
we'll
talk
more
about
the
products
in
the
solutions
that
will
repair
some
of
these
damages.
So
moving
in
to
slide
three
we'll
have
about
20
slow
I've
got
a
different
presentation.
K
K
K
K
Moving
to
the
next
slide,
all
the
photos,
you're
about
to
see
are
you're
gonna,
see
weathering
damage
missing.
Brick
faces
the
the
damaged
texture
exposed,
brick
underbody,
where
we've
got
replacement,
brick
mortar,
that
through
mortar,
through
through
messy
repairs
that
has
damaged
other
brick
and
how
you
know
this
mineral.
How
Roma
Bible
provide
a
new
protective
reskin
Cody.
So
moving
to
the
next
slide,
mr.
Schroeder
yeah.
L
L
G
K
So
in
this
slide
here,
which
I
have
is
five
for
the
next
I
would
say:
slides
five
through
29
we're
going
to
show
individual
close-up
pictures
of
the
fire
skin
that
has
been
damaged
in
in
some
of
the
original
character
of
the
brick.
Also.
So
here
we
see
the
vertical
textured
brick,
which
has
been
damaged
through
time
through
continuing
summers
and
winters
in
the
Oklahoma
City
climate.
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
L
L
K
K
K
It
of
the
twenty
slide
showing
the
individual
photos.
You
know
from
this
presentation
on
committee.
We
wanted
to
talk
about
the
Roma
bio
solution
of
providing
eight
a
new
skin
of
protection
for
this
product
project,
to
not
only
uniform
it
in
color,
but
a
give
give
that
fire
skin
the
extra
protection
it
needs,
because
our
product
bonds
to
it
makes
it
stronger
with
allowing
water
to
penetrate
it
and
release.
K
This
product
has
a
chemical
reaction
on
it
that
that
that
provides
that
bond
roma
bile
mineral
Robo
vials
of
mineral
paint
manufacturer
based
in
Atlanta
Georgia
we
marketed
in
the
paint
family,
but
it's
basically
a
mineral
based.
You
know
product
with
no
VOCs
and
no
chemicals
in
it
all
natural
material,
mineral
bonding
to
a
mineral,
minerals,
love
minerals
and
this
product
bonds
to
it
all
the
products
are
made
in
Florence
Italy
by
fourth-generation
paint
maker.
Again,
these
products
have
been
made
for
hundreds
of
years.
It
isn't
new
technology,
but
is
new
to
the
American
market.
K
We
launched
it
in
2009
and
still
using
these
old
techniques,
we
make
colorful
vibrant
products
that
are
non-toxic,
sustainable
and
eco-friendly
next
slide.
Please
again,
this
just
talks
about
the
history
of
mineral
paints.
We
offer
we
have
two
solutions
for
this
project.
We
have
a
lime
wash
that
was
perfected
by
the
2,000
years
ago,
and
then
we
also
have
a
a
solid
masonry
flat
textured
with
an
extra.
K
It's
got
an
extra
for
stronger
climates,
the
Germans
needed
a
stronger
climate
or
a
stronger
product
for
their
climate,
and
they
with
the
potassium
silicon
atom,
along
with
an
aggregate
made.
The
products
create
a
stronger
shell
for
their
for
their
homes.
In
that
climate,
again,
not
new
technology.
The
the.
K
That
the
is
potassium
silicate,
it's
the
main
ingredient,
which
again
was
perfected
by
the
Germans,
not
new
technology,
there's
buildings
over
there
that
were
painted
with
mineral
paints
a
hundred
years
ago
that
are
still
in
good
condition.
Today
it
is
a
product
that
brick
gets
old
and
tired
and
needs
a
fresh
skin
on
it.
This
is
a
product
that
they
use,
that
spec
for
it
for
masonry,
that
is
the
product
that
they
use
to
bring
brick
back
to
life.
K
If
you
use
the
word,
silicon
paints,
or
you
know,
paints
that
we
are
customed
to
hear
over
there,
they
they're
they're
all
banned.
They
do
not
use
them.
This
is
the
product
that
they
use
for
for
rehabbing
old,
stone,
brick
moving
to
the
next
slide
again,
Roma
biles
mineral
line
paints
stains
that
are
natural
products,
are
kind
of
going
over
a
lot
of
things.
I've
already
talked
about
so
again.
What
I
want
to
tell
you
is
this?
Isn't
an
acrylic
or
latex
paint?
K
Next
slide.
Here's
a
project
that
I
just
want
to
show.
We
have
many
like
it
aging
old
brick,
this
one
you
can
tell
by
the
front
in
his
aged
discolored,
and
they
get
an
addition
on
it
to
make
more
room
for
their
family.
However,
the
two
towns
bothered
them.
They
wanted
to
provide
us.
You
know
a
new
look
new
color
while
improving
the
performance
you
know
enhancing
their
brick.
Next
slide
has
the
after
of
what
our
products
did
for
their
for
their
home.
K
And
that's
what
we
want
to
do
here.
We
want
to.
We
understand
that
this
is
it
for
every
brick,
we're
not
trying
to
sell
it
as
every
brick,
but
as
a
case-by-case
understanding
what
the
project
needs.
What
the
bricks
needs
to
bring
it
back
to
life
and
that's
what
we're
here
not
only
selling
our
product
on
but
to
help
bring
this
this
home.
This
brick
back
to
life
with
a
new
protective
shell
to
keep
it,
keep
it
from
corroding
and
damaging
even
more
while
giving
it
at
a
a
better.
You
know
curb
curb
side.
K
E
Commission
of
lat
there's,
no
doubt
your
your
your
product
is
very
high-quality
and
you're,
also
correct
in
your
review
of
the
masonry
on
the
building.
It's
an
existing
wire
cut
masonry
that
has
seen
weathering
and
it's
starting
to
show
the
signs
of
free
stock
through
the
face,
so
I
don't
take
any
exception
to
what
you're
presenting
I'm
curious.
If
you
can
tell
me,
how
does
your
product
perform
relative
to
a
high
solids,
high,
siloxane
flat,
clear
application
that
would
be
used?
That
would
not
change
the
color
of
the
of
the
existing
brick
and
I
realized.
E
K
Does
it
form
similar
I
mean
you
can
call
our
product
to
stain?
It's
been
called
that
I
mean
we
you,
you
basically
staining
it
to
the
color
desired.
Color
potassium
silicate
comes
in
the
clear
base,
but
yes
it
the
the.
When
coating
our
breaks
I
mean
it's
just
water,
it's
broken
down
with
water.
Once
you
add
the
water,
that's
kind
of
the
fuel
that
as
that
water
is
being
absorbed
into
the
brick,
it
is
bringing
my
product
with
it.
The
potassium
silicate
that
is
bonding
onto
that
brick
as
it
dries.
K
E
K
K
K
J
J
K
K
K
C
Just
a
follow-up:
if
you
can't
provide
that
technical
information
I'm
looking
at
one
of
your
slides
here,
could
you
at
least
give
us
a
pretty
precise
name
as
to
not
necessarily
the
color
or
anything
like
that?
But
would
it
the
name
of
this
product
be
Roma,
bio,
potassium
silicate,
or
what
would
the
name
be.
K
K
K
C
D
C
I
Yes,
we
have
had
quite
a
lot
of
conversation
Joe
and
we
about
the
potassium
silicates
versus
the
lime
wash
the
potassium
silicate
is
what
Joe
has
recommended
to
us.
It's
more
expensive.
It
has
a
20-year
warranty
on
it
after
the
new
skin
is
a,
and
so
that
is
our
preference.
However,
the
lime
wash
is
removable
and
I.
Remember
Commissioner
Blatt!
You
are
very
concerned
about
once
painted
you
could
never
go
back.
You
wouldn't
want
to
remove
the
lime
wash.
It
lasts
more
like
seven
years,
but
if
you
wanted
to
remove
it,
you
could
remove
it.
I
I
would
be
stripping
the
protective
skin
off
this,
so
we
would
wouldn't
want
to.
We
prefer
the
potassium
silicon
and
Joe
was
explaining
in
Germany's
climate.
The
potassium
silicon
is,
preference
is
preferred
because
of
the
harsh
weather
there,
and
so
certainly,
if
the
potassium
silica
is
denied,
we
would
ask
that
you
please
do
approve
the
lime
wash,
which
is
more
of
a
7
year
solution,
but
it
is
removable
if,
in
the
future,
somebody
comes
up
with
some
technology
that
can
restore
this
brick
and
then
you
would
want
to
take
off
the
new
protective
1.
I
C
F
E
I've
actually
been
looking
at
the
same
information
I
do
think
the
ability
to
achieve
to
achieve
technical
data
sheets
or
to
obtain
technical
data
sheets
could
occur.
I
also
see
the
comments
about
lime
wash,
but
there's
a
window
for
its
removal
I'm.
Not
so
much
I
think
that
things
that
set
this
product
apart
and
I
think
what
we
have
been
talking
about
is
in
the
event
that
a
motion
needs
to
be
crafted.
It
could
be
discussed
with
respect
to
this
we're
not
approving
a
paint
we're
improving.
We
are
we're
considering
a.
E
But
we
are
reviewing
it
with
respect
to
the
specific
system
that
has
not
necessarily
been
evaluated
yet
by
the
city,
so
I'll,
but
I
do
think
it's
valid
to
have
that
technical
information
included
and
that
could
be
provided
to
staff
and
included
as
a
part
of
the
motion
so
that,
in
the
event
that
a
future
discussion
comes
up
that-
and
we
are
no
longer
commissioners.
But
other
people
are
looking
at
our
actions
that
they
can
see.
That.
The
reasons
why
we
consider
these
products
were
because
they
were
not
pains.
E
C
I
believe
we
could,
even
if
we
wanted
to
do
this,
we've
done.
You
know
crafted
emotion
with
the
conditions
and
sometimes
we've
allowed
the
applicant
to
you
know,
provide
staff
within
a
day
or
so
of
a
technical
data
sheet
or
some
you
know,
follow-up
information.
We've
certainly
done
that
in
the
past.
Any
other
questions
or
discussion
on
this.
I
Sorry
this
is
Sheila
Weber
I
would
like
to
point
out
when
I
mentioned
that
the
lime
wash
is
removable,
that
it
is
removable
and
Joe
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
it's
removable
beyond
the
application
window
all
the
way
through
its
lifetime.
If
you
wanted
to
come
back
and
remove
it,
which
would
be
removing
the
protective
skin
and
address
the
brick
at
some
future
point
with
some
future
technology,
is
that
correct
Joe?
It.
J
This
is
Commissioner
tourniquet,
I'm
more
concerned
about
paint
peeling
off
of
brick
than
I.
Am
the
ability
of
somebody
to
come
back
and
remove
it,
I
think
just
having
as
an
architect
and
homeowner,
that's
tried
to
match
brick
with
odd
textures
and
odd
colors.
I
know
that
it's
extremely
difficult
and
if
you
can
do
it,
which
I've
done
in
historic
projects,
it's
extremely
expensive,
so
I
think
from
my
vantage
point,
I
wouldn't
want
something
that
wears
off.
K
E
C
J
E
C
F
B
C
I
C
C
C
G
C
Okay,
our
next
meeting
will
be
Wednesday
August,
26th
2020,
new
applications
will
be
were
to
be
submitted
to
staff
by
4
p.m.
Tuesday,
July
28th,
with
revisions
on
information
on
continued
projects
by
July
21st
2020.
With
that
we've
concluded
the
meeting
and
we
will
be
adjourned.
Thank
you.
Everyone.