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D
You
so
anyway,
usually
when
you
have
a
rezoning,
you
also
have
a
land-use
change
going
along
with
it.
In
this
case,
the
land
use
on
the
property
is
already
RoR
and
it's
also
in
the
county
is
retail
services,
which
is
RoR,
falls
under
retail
services.
So
there's
no
land-use
change
tonight,
we've
researched
it
city
staff
looked
back
as
far
as
we
could
and
the
property
has
always
had
a
land
use
of
RoR.
So
there's
just
been
an
incompatibility
between
the
zoning
and
the
land
use
for
years.
D
Subject:
property
is
located
in
the
south
side
of
st.
Petersburg
Drive
west
of
South
Bayview
Boulevard,
north
Burlington
Avenue
has
its
own
zoning
designation,
currently
of
r2
residential
single-family
district
with
a
city,
land
use
of
residential
office,
retail
and
county
land
use
of
retail
services.
As
I
indicated,
the
current
zoning
and
land
use
are
incompatible
and
the
proposed
zoning
will
dress
this
by
making
them
the
same
under
also
under
the
countywide
rules.
It
is
comprised
of
two
Lots
three
and
four
lot
threes
vacant
and
lot.
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4
has
a
wood
frame
residential
house
that
was
built
approximately
in
1925.
The
house
has
been
vacant
for
several
years
and
shows
signs
of
neglect
and
lapidation.
The
applicant
is
proposing
a
three
unit,
residential
development,
on
both
lots
of
the
subject,
property
and,
as
I
said,
the
under
the
RoR
land-use
that
would
allow
15
years
per
acre.
It
is
only
0.37
acres,
so
he
is
limited
to
how
many
he
could
put
on.
Under
that
guidance
and
under
the
countywide
rules
it
would
have
been
24
acres.
D
D
D
D
Multifamily
I
know,
there's
been
questions
in
terms
of
from
people
in
the
audience.
Perhaps
in
terms
of
height,
the
height
in
the
city
of
oldsmar
is
35
feet,
except
if
you're
in
the
town
center.
You
know
there
are
varying
degrees
of
height
in
town
center,
so
just
like
any
other
single-family
residential
home.
Any
anything
done
under
this
would
also
need
to
be
35.
D
Does
not
grant
a
special
privilege,
it
is
established
to
act
as
a
buffer
between
districts
of
totally
residential
those
of
other
uses.
As
I
said,
the
land
use
is
already
RR
says
this
is
a
zoning
rezoning
to
try
to
get
a
compatible
with
the
existing
land
use?
It
will
not
conflict
with
the
deeds
of
the
neighborhood.
Her
City
is
one
of
the
main
designations
is
this
buffer
district
and
he
is
asking
to
have
it
resumed
still
to
a
zoning
district
that
would
allow
residential.
D
D
D
Approval
of
this
restrictive
covenant
will
be
recorded
in
Pinellas,
County,
Clerk,
OHS,
Circuit,
Court
and
remove
all
the
restriction
requires
the
city
of
old,
smart
school.
They
will
not
deter
the
improvement
or
development
of
other
property
in
the
area
will
not
result
in
any
change
in
sanitary
sewer
or
any
of
the
public
facilities.
The
district
boundaries
are
drawn
appropriately.
D
It's
consistent
with
the
future
land
noose,
objective
of
maintaining
consistency
with
the
countywide
future
land-use
plan,
and
it's
also
consistent
with
future
land
use
map
which
is
RR
due
to
the
site.
Proximity
of
the
city
of
old,
smart
Sui
development
area.
The
rezoning
is
also
consistent
with
the
following
objective:
it
supports
the
redevelopment
revitalization
of
the
city's
community
redevelopment
district
through
a
Paulding
Community
Redevelopment
plan
and
also
supports.
We
don't
development
and
we
divide
the
finalization
of
other
areas
in
the
city.
D
It
is
located
outside
the
CRA,
but
the
CRA
is
across
is
a
few
houses
away
in
a
bit
effect.
So,
based
on
above
discussion,
staff
recommends
the
City
Council
authorize
the
city
attorney
to
prepare
an
ordinance
to
rezone
the
subject
property
from
our
two
residential
single-family
district
to
our
our
residential
office,
retail
subject
to
the
restrictive
zoning
allowing
all
future
development
of
property,
residential
and
any
applicant
has
been
notified
it.
It
has
no
objections.
E
D
Buy
we
were
in
effect
doing
is
right.
Now
he
could
do
a
single-family
home
on
the
two
lots
one
on
each
lot
and
by
making
it
an
RoR
which
is
consistent
with
the
land
use,
he
can
do
a
multi-family
which
could
be
a
townhomes
and
he
can
do
three
units
so
gives
him
another
unit
and
effect
on
the
lot.
When.
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E
D
D
We
have
what
we
call
a
mixed-use
plan
development,
which
is
almost
a
PUD
overlay.
The
only
place
that
actually
has
it
right
now
is
the
racetrack
there's
some
portion
of
the
property
that
has
that
technically,
the
whole
town
center
is
considered
to
mix
use
development.
There
is
more
primarily
residential
and
the
interior
of
the
CRA,
but
on
the
exterior
sides,
those
are
mixed
juice,
so
along
st.
Petersburg,
Drive,
State
Street
that
area
and
part
of
the
baby.
Thank.
D
Well,
with
staffs
recommending
approval,
so
I,
don't
know
you
know
what
you
either
leave
it
as
an
r2
and
having
consistent
you
know,
land
use
with
it
or
you
make
them
go
through
a
land-use
change
process,
which
is
not
only
the
city
is
also
the
county.
The
land
use
is
there
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
compatible
countywide.
It's
one
area
where
everybody's
consistent.
F
G
D
Like
when
we
say
buffer
were
saying
transitional,
so
instead
of
you
know,
are
the
baby.
Motel
theoretically
could
go
to
a
sea
to
use
because
it
sound
RRR
right
now,
which
would
permit
and
everybody
hates
gas
station,
so
we'll
throw
up
gas
stations,
so
the
hotel
could
go
to
a
gas
station
and
then
this
would
be
Nora
Warren.
Since
we're
saying
it's
residential
but
not
purely
single-family.
It's
kind
of
transitioning
into
just
single-family
residential
I
still.
D
D
Ror
under
the
land
use,
which
is
a
higher
level,
so
the
zoning
could
be,
is
usually
more
restrictive.
The
sewing's
got
your
details
in
terms
of
setbacks,
height
things
like
that,
and
then
the
land
use
kind
of
dictates
how
many
dwelling
units
you
can
have
on
per
acre
and
it's
a
little
higher
level.
I
know.
G
D
We
see
the
plat
I
I'm,
not
sure,
because
if
it's
only
to
lots
of
some
illustrative
plat
because
then
you're
just
joining
so
that's
like
a
staff
level,
only
a
full
plat.
The
reason
to
go
through
that
is
because
you're
gonna
be
using
easements.
You
need
to
maybe
change
access
points
utilities.
Things
like
that
and
two
Lots
is
a
simple
administrative
replac
and
as
long
as
in
easements
not
required
or
things
like
that,
it
wouldn't
have
to
go
through
that.
So.
D
D
D
Financially,
we
have
agreements
with
other
cities,
so
it's
a
higher
level
through
the
land
use,
but
the
county.
Actually,
the
next
case
you'll
see
where
we're
doing
something
which
will
involve
the
county.
Should
somebody
trigger
it
in
this
case,
we
don't
have
to
involve
the
county,
because
the
way
news
is
already
there
we're
already
it's
already
land
use
of
RoR
is
already
would
be
consistent
with
the
county.
I
mean.
H
D
That
restricted
covering
that
goes
with
the
land.
Okay,
if
the
person
sells
it
that
covering
that's,
why
it's
recorded
or
needs
to
be
recorded
with
the
clerk's
office,
anybody
anybody
doing
it.
Gents
would
see
that
there's
a
restrictive
covenant
on
that
land
and
that
they
could
only
do
residential
okay.
So
that
would
what.
G
G
And
so
this
house
had
at
one
time
some
type
of
letter.
That
said,
it
was
owned
by
these
race
horse
race
people
and
it
was
historical
but
I
talked
to
our
local
historian
and
he
said
forget
about
it.
There
is
no
historical
buildings,
so
it
can
be
bulldozed
and
without
any
issues
because
we're
bulldozing
historical
buildings
all
the
time
in
old.
G
G
G
G
Is
two
stories
too,
and
so
it
would
kind
of
blend.
You
know,
but
I,
don't
know
how
those
neighbors
feel
and
if
they
approached
us
and
said
we'd
have
to
listen
to
them.
But
I,
don't
know
if
they're
here
tonight,
but
I
have
no
other
issues
with
this.
As
it
stands,
something
needs
to
be
done.
There
still
don't
buy
the
buffer
story,
though.
D
D
A
A
I
Overall
question
I
think
it
was
about
or
whatever
your
question
that
came
up
was
about
buffer
and
transition,
and
things
like
that
and
that
was
kind
of
driving
force
behind
townhomes
there
as
opposed
to
single
family,
particularly
the
motel,
is
a
bit
of
a
I'll,
say
eyesore,
but
it's
something
that
maybe
a
single
family
might
not
want
to
be.
Next
to
it's,
a
commercial
use,
it's
more
intent
to
use.
We
got
single-family
as
you
go
down
the
road.
Typically
with
with
zoning
development.
You
try
to
not
have
high
density
next
to
low
density.
I
You
try
to
put
middle.
You
know
mid
density
in
the
middle
there
and
we're
medium
density,
and
that's
you
know
kind
of
what
makes
sense
for
that
lot,
not
dissimilar
from
a
you
know,
thought
process
as
to
what
happens
kind
of
diagonally
across
on
the
northwest
side
of
Bayview.
So
behind
that
mini-mart
there
there's
four
four
units
there
or
Connery
units,
not
that
kind
of
design,
but
that's
the
idea,
transition
from
commercial
to
medium
density
and
then
single-family
beyond,
looked
at
several
different
ideas
for
the
property,
whether
it's
two
units
single-family
to
duplex
three
units.
I
The
RoR
one
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
was
that
the
city
guidelines
actually
talked
about
it
being
a
buffer,
and
the
guidelines
say
that
the
further
the
purpose
of
this
district
is
to
act
as
a
buffer
between
districts
of
purely
residential
nature
and
those
of
other
uses.
So
that's
from
the
guidelines,
in
particular.
A
I
That's
a
great
question:
I
have
done
some
layouts,
where
four
units
could
make
sense,
I'd
love
to
get
feedback
from
everybody.
If
people
have
opinions
on
that,
I,
don't
see
it
possibly
being
more
than
that.
I
think
that's
cramming
too
much
into
there.
Four
units
again
is
what's
on
that
same
type
of
lot,
diagonal
across
northwest
side
of
Bayview
there
and
fits
on
a
lot.
Okay,
again,
that's
I!
I
Don't
think
anybody
wants
for
garages
on
the
street
like
that,
and
it
won't
be
a
design
like
that
I'm,
an
architect
myself
and
I'm
sensitive
to
making
this
a
project
that
is
aesthetically
pleasing
one
of
the
challenges,
I'm
sure
some
people
are
concerned
about
the
large
tree.
That's
also
there
and
there's
a
back-and-forth
between
trying
to
have
the
building
match
the
street
frontage.
That's
typical
and
sort
of
historical
nature
along
there
at
25,
feet
back
and
then
also
have
the
tree.
So
that's
playing
back
and
forth
so
long
answering
the
question.
E
I
As
far
as
the
concern
being
the
adjacency
yeah
I
think
that
I
know
there
are
some
other
plans
that
other
folks
have
may
have
for
the
for
that
motel
as
well,
and
don't
know
exactly
what
that's
going
to
turn
out
to
be,
but
with
regard
to
the
town's
themselves,
they
sort
of
lend,
if
being
multifamily,
lend
themselves
to
be
a
little
bit
more
separated
from
what's
adjacent
to
them.
There
probably
won't
be
a
lot
of
windows
on
that
side.
F
I
F
G
That's
the
only
way
I
could
see
it
because
it
looks
like
in
this
photograph.
There's
that
live
oak,
so
I
mean
it
might
be
a
light.
Boat.
I,
don't
know.
I
love
live
oaks,
then
water
up
they
can
go
I
understand.
You
know.
If
you
mid
through
mitigation,
I'm
sure
Michelle
will
keep
you
on
task.
You
know
you
will
put
some
trees
back
in
there.
G
I
G
G
I
G
Maxie
could
to
do
there's
three
anyway.
I
think
that
would
be
comfortable
for
the
neighborhood
comfortable
for
the
neighbors
and
comfortable
for
the
now
called
Bayview,
Motel
and
and
the
beautiful
piece
of
property
that's
across
the
street
and
has
just
been
kind
of
redeveloped
I.
Don't
have
any
other
questions.
H
I
K
H
E
I
I
And
during
the
review,
with
with
planning
some
other
options
and
ideas
were
suggested
too,
since
it's
you
know,
we've
got
to
be
at
13
feet
anyway,
we
could
potentially
maybe
parking
under
from
the
front.
That's
another
option
as
well,
but
currently
the
plan
is
for
the
three
single
detached
garages
in
the
rear.
I
A
B
L
Tracy
coward
and
I
live
at
one
three,
four
arlington
avenue
west.
So
basically
they
yeah
my
backyard
thumbs
up
to
that
backyard.
So
I
can
see
you
know
and
obviously
that's
it
is
definitely
an
eyesore.
I
think
one
of
my
considering
the
office
space
designation
just
because
I
I
guess
I'm
unclear.
You
know
why
we're
designating
an
office
space
if
it's
we're
gonna
declare
it
only
residential
and
when
the
biggest
reason
is
is
because
you
know
we
already
have
baby
a
motel
back
there,
which
you
know
terrible
things
go
on
there
all
the
time.
L
I
don't
want
any
additional.
You
know
things
going
on.
We
have
an
empty
lot,
just
like
down
the
right
on
Park,
Park
and
st.
Pete
Drive.
You
know.
Does
this
open
it
up
to
put
something
else
that
well
add
more
commercial
and
more
your
business
going
on
this
there's
just
a
lot
going
on
back
there
already
we're
worried
about
more
somebody
being
will
take
over
and
and
then
having
something
else
that
isn't
being
monitored
that
we
still
have
to
worry
about,
because
literally
we
can
see
this
into
our
backyard
and
I
guess
now.
L
I
L
G
C
L
B
L
E
B
Name
is
Nick
st.
Hilaire
a
little
bit
509
South
Bayview
I
am
a
Spanish
Houston
reference.
I
am
the
Spanish
house
that
you've
referenced
you're.
The
name
I
really
actually
really
appreciate
the
amendment
the
RM
15,
to
make
it
only
residential
I.
Think
that
was
really
thoughtful
and
responsive
and
makes
me
kind
of
proud
to
live
here.
I
am
curious
if
RM
15
could
ever
be
utilized
as
parking
lot.
B
Should
a
business
change
at
the
Bayview
Motel
I'd
prefer
to
not
see
the
developers
untimely
demise
and
his
company
or
heirs
sell
it
and
decide
they
don't
want
to
develop
it.
We're
going
to
just
get
rid
of
it.
Is
there
a
possibility
that
it
could
be
a
residential
zoned
place
could
become
a
parking
lot?
I
may
be
directing
it
to
you.
You
might
know
better.
You.
D
B
And
actually
pretty
comfortable
with
a
two-story
townhomes
I
love,
1920s,
Florida,
bungalows,
but
I,
don't
know
that's
realistic
to
replace
it.
The
Southside
setback
at
7
feet,
possibly
9.
You
know
the
larger,
the
setback,
the
better,
in
my
opinion,
of
course,
because
I
lived
there.
However,
it
probably
is
7
feet
currently,
so
those
are
the
issues
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up.
They
can't
be
home
with
a
parking
lot.
I
think
my
questions
are
answered
so
may.
G
G
Know
you
were
the
one
that
I
was
your
home.
I
was
the
most
uncomfortable
about
this
happening
next
door
right,
you
know,
and
how
that
individual
that
homeowner
would
feel
about
this
and
I'm
glad
you
came
here
and
spoke.
Yeah
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
you
know.
I
I
did
my
little
Google
search
on
the
street
and
I'm
like
okay.
This
guy
is
gonna,
be
impacted
more
than
anyone
sure.
K
K
For
us,
we
have
a
couple
of
concerns
about
predominantly
the
three
or
maybe
four
townhomes
being
there
like
Nick
said,
I
really
appreciate
at
least
the
designation,
but
it
can
only
be
residential.
That
is
very
thoughtful
of
you.
Guys,
I
also
called
in
to
Tatiana,
and
she
had
mentioned
that
this
designation
would
also
require
some
form
of
a
landscaping
zone.
Is,
is
my
understanding
there
correct
there?
It'd
have
to
be
some
landscaping
between
the
properties?
K
K
Additionally,
a
lot
of
us
in
that
strip,
work
from
home,
so
I
know
Wendy
works
from
home.
My
wife
and
I.
Both
work
from
home
I
think
tracing
Brian.
You
both
work
a
lot
from
home
so
with
three
or
four
full
family
homes.
In
that
one
lot,
I
have
some
concern
about
possible
noise.
That's
certainly
from
a
a
single-family
home
would
not
be
an
issue.
K
You
know
I
think
those
are
a
real
complaints.
I
had
others
about
if
this
were
a
commercial
possible
home
with
just
the
street
designs
being
that
the
divided
Road,
the
commercial
vehicles
trying
to
get
access
to
the
property,
but
obviously
you
know
the
residential
rider
that
takes
care
of
that.
So
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
guys.
Thank
you.
J
Me
I'm
sure
my
name
is
Wendy
st.
Hilaire
on
the
other
neighbor
at
509,
South
Bayview.
We
really
do
appreciate
the
residential
Rider.
It
was
a
big
concern
for
all
the
neighbors
in
the
neighborhood
in
general,
so
we
do
appreciate
that
we
don't
believe
that
our
area
is
well-suited
for
mixed-use.
We
also
don't
think
that
I
I
strongly
don't
believe
that
the
ror
classification
fits
with
our
neighborhood
and
where
we
are,
it
is
not
mixed
juice,
it
is
a
residential
neighborhood
and
we
have
all
of
our
children
have
grown
up
there.
J
It
does
not
meet
the
characteristics
of
an
rlr,
but
we
do
appreciate
the
residential
I.
Think
most
of
us
are
willing
to
compromise
on
that.
I
don't
feel
like
having
four
townhouses
would
be
suitable
for
that
neighborhood
in
that
space,
I,
really
don't
I'll
respect
whatever
the
boy
decides.
I
think
that
having
mixed
use
I,
don't
know
that
we'll
have
enough
parking.
Whenever
you
look
at
the
size
of
that
lot,
I
haven't
looked
at
the
designs
or
seen
them.
J
There
may
be
room
for
four
and
they
may
look
great,
but
there
is
a
concern,
as
well
as
the
neighborhood
and
the
the
neighbors
right
in
their
yards,
and
it
literally
backing
up
to
them
concerned
about
parking.
It
does
seem
like
there
would
be
enough
parking
spaces
at
the
unit
if
not
parking
on
the
street,
isn't
something
that's
super
viable
in
that
area.
So
three
units
three
parking
per
one
unit
seems
like
it
would
possibly
be
enough
and
I
think
that's
the
major
stuff
that
I
had
you.
C
Know
we're
a
recommendation
board.
We
don't
make
any
decisions.
All
we
do
is
recommend
to
the
City
Council
they
do.
The
deciding
so
I
would
suggest
to
everybody
who
has
interest
in
this
go
to
the
City
Council
meeting
when
it
goes
to
them
and
state
your
things
to
them.
That
would
be
several
readings.
A
J
A
K
C
D
F
D
D
G
H
Ginger
Tedeschi
303
Park
Boulevard,
but
if
it's
okay
with
you
I'm
actually
here
representing
Johnny
proc
who
lives
at
500,
South
Bay
View
Boulevard,
he
was
called
to
work
at
4:30
and
he
asked
if
someone
could
come
and
speak
for
him.
So,
as
you
know,
that's
the
big
blue
house
on
the
corner,
the
one
that
was
supposed
to
be
re
olds
house
at
one
time
and
he
just
bought
that
recently.
H
But
he
was
concerned
that
there
would
be
townhouses
across
from
him
and
he's
super
not
happy
about
that
because
he
just
walked
there
and
it's
kind
of
a
shock
to
him
to
say:
yeah,
there's
gonna
be
three
or
four
townhouses.
There's
gonna
be
six
seven.
Eight
nine
cars,
so
I
I
am
here
to
represent
him
to
tell
you
that
he
is
not
happy
about
that.
H
Also
from
my
job
I'm,
a
realtor
I
get
an
opportunity
to
speak
with
a
lot
of
old.
My
residents
and
I
give
these
guys
a
lot
of
credit
because
most
residents,
when
the
townhouses
on
Park
went
up
the
residents
had
no
idea
they
were
coming
up
until
they
went
up
and
on
poor,
mrs.
teeths.
Next
door
was
he
at
the
City
Council
meeting
complaining
about
them
asking
for
a
fence
which
was
not
provided
I.
H
Think
for
townhouses
is
too
much
I
think
the
hole
is
gonna,
be
a
parking
lot.
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
are
familiar
with
the
townhouses
on
st.
Pete
and
Park.
If
there
has
been
talk
from
residents
that
they
should
all
get
together
and
buy
them
and
knock
them
down,
because
they
disliked
them
immensely.
So
I'm
not
sure
this
is
the
right
fit
for
old
Oldsmar,
but.
A
A
I
I
like
three
actually
better
when
I
went
through
the
iterations,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
about
whether
two
units
three
units
four
units,
four
units,
as
Michelle
mentioned,
the
restrictions
make
it
extremely
dense,
going
to
additional
setbacks
on
the
sides.
They
just
no
parking,
then
at
four
years,
you're
also
required
to
have
RV
parking
and
things
like
that
and
a
handicapped
space
accessible
space
as
well.
I
F
I
I
I
B
I
A
great
question
that
was
one
of
the
things
I
thought
about
when
the
drawing
it
calls
it
out
as
being
two
stories,
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
didn't
want
to
go
to
parking
underneath
would
be
to
them
become
three
stories.
Now,
as
Michelle
mentioned,
things
are
changing
as
far
as
our
flood
zones
and
things
are
getting
elevated
higher
anyway,
but
by
going
to
the
detached
garages
in
the
rear
and
keeping
a
two
two-story
structure,
it
allows
us
to
keep
the
overall
height
of
the
building
down.
B
G
J
Hi
I'm
the
neighbor
across
the
street
Doria
svorski,
a
504
Bay
View
Boulevard.
Thank
you
and
I
am
basically
opposed
to
changing
it
from
r2
to
RoR.
I
am
concerned
about
the
neighborhood
and
the
buffer,
and
if
they
put
three
town
houses
on
there,
I
think
it's
just
too
abrupt
for
the
neighborhood
and
also
the
traffic
and
the
congestion
and
anybody
that
is
living
in
that
unit
next
to
the
Bayview
Motel.
So
it's
it's
just
a
bad
situation.
J
The
neighbors
in
in
the
immediate
area
are
always
concerned
about
the
motel
and
I
know:
there's
rumors
of
other
people
buying
that
property
and
developing
it
into
even
something
more
I
have
had
people
come
up
to
me
and
say
that
the
neighbor
next
door
that
just
sold
is
going
to
be
a
parking
lot
for
the
baby
motel
for
their
excess
parking.
So
yeah
there's
a
lot
of
rumors
going
around
and
I.
Don't
necessarily
want
to
see
the
the
structure
of
the
neighborhood
change
that
much.
That's
just
my
concern.
J
E
F
L
F
F
F
The
last
thing,
I'd
like
to
say,
is
folks
I've,
been
on
this
board
for
30
years,
and
you
folks
have
you've
done
the
best
job
of
making
a
presentation
and
coming
in
here
in
an
orderly
manner
and
doing
a
very
good
job
of
expressing
your
complaints
after
30
years.
This
is
the
best
best
roof.
I've
heard
believe
you
me.
A
G
As
to
what
Bob
said
about
what's
sitting
there,
now,
what
what
we
could?
What
could
be
gentlemen,
the
architect
can
put
there,
probably
is
going
to
please
the
neighbors
if
you
stay
involved
in
this,
if
you're
across
the
street
and
have
to
look
over
there
and
you
see
a
beautiful
building
and
beautiful
development.
That's
nicely
designed
you're
not
going
to
be
uncomfortable.
Six
cars
and
traffic
they're
all
one
way
up
baby
because
a
median
street,
if
you're
across
street
you
have
that
median
buffer
landscaping.
G
Fencing
fencing,
make
good
neighbors
so
I'm
as
long
as
the
Covenant
stays
as
residential.
Only
if
he
can
find
a
way
to
make
a
profit
with
three
buildings
or
three
homes,
they're
going
to
be
expensive
homes.
Evidently
two
thousand
square
v
and
old,
smarter
anymore,
is
a
high
dollar
and
those
people
are
going
to
take
care
of
their
homes
and
they're
probably
going
to
be
good
neighbors,
but
you
probably
never
see
them
because
they're
gonna
be
in
town
homes.
G
C
They
cleaned
it
out
and
I
think
that
the
architect
is
in
agreement
to
try
and
help
you
guys
and
be
as
thoughtful
of
you
of
you
and
respectful
of
you
as
possible.
We
have
to
recommend
in
the
affirmative.
Well,
we
make
a
recommendation.
We
talk
about
it.
When
we
make
our
movement,
it
has
to
be
in
the
affirmative
to
City
Council,
it's
the
vote
that
makes
it
different
either
it's
like
seven
people
vote
against
it.
C
It's
it's
still
going
to
go
to
City
Council,
but
they
know
that
we
voted
against
it
or
for
it
or
whatever
we
voted
for.
However,
we
voted,
but
the
the
motion
has
to
be
in
the
affirmative.
So
don't
start
throwing
things
at
us
if
we
start
saying
like
we
want
this
to
go
forward
and
don't
want
to
hear
that.
But
that's
how
we
have
to
say
it.
H
H
That's
why
I
got
on
this
board
so
now
here
I
sit
and
the
reality
of
it
is.
It
is
an
eyesore
and
the
other
reality
is
not
very
many.
People
will
want
to
come
in
and
build
a
single-family
nice
home
next
to
a
motel.
So
this
is
a
good
compromise.
I
feel
and
I
think
that
it's
gonna,
you
know
with
that
designation
as
residential.
Only
I
do
think
that
it's
probably
the
best
option
for
that
area.
Okay,
I.
A
Will
make
final
common
regards
to
what
our
board
members
a
lot
of
them
reiterated?
This
comment
and
I
will
reiterate
this
again.
As
the
chair
of
this
Planning
Board
of
the
fact
of
when
it
goes
to
City
Council,
you
came
out
tonight.
That's
I
commend
all
of
you
for
taking
your
time,
especially
in
the
times
were
to
ingrain
now,
and
you
still
came
out
to
let
your
voice
heard.
Let
your
concerns
be
heard
to
tell
your
side
of
the
story
how
it
affects
this
particular
situation
affects
you
directly.
A
Okay,
how
we
were
saying
as
a
board
members
to
you
is
take
the
passion
of
what
you're
saying
tonight
and
be
present
when
it's
presented
at
City
Council.
That
way,
you
can
also
be
in
Prentiss
City
Council
to
speak.
Your
concerns
to
them
also
to
be
heard.
That's
why
the
citizens
are
able
to
speak
their
concerns
and
address
on
a
particular
topic.
So
that's
all
I
ask
in
regards
to
you
guys
in
turn
be
present
with
City
Council
actually
has
this
addressed?
Okay,
that's
what
I
asked.
F
F
H
G
B
To
ants
June
16th
well,
they
will
be
authorizing
the
attorney
to
prepare
the
ordinance
to
hear
this
issue.
July
21st
is
the
first
reading
of
the
ordinance
and
there's
a
public
hearing
at
that
time.
August
10th
is
the
second
reading
of
the
ordinance
and
that,
if
it
passes,
then
it's
adopted
that
night
and
there's
also
a
public
hearing
that
night
as
well.
So
June
16th,
July,
24th,
August,
10
7:00
p.m.
this
room.
E
So
that's
why
I
asked
if
there
was
an
another
option
other
than
that,
but
if
the
only
other
option
is
mixed-used
and
it's
it's,
it
is
what
it
is
and
then
you've
got
the
caveat
that
says
can
only
be
and
that's
attached
to
the
land,
and
so
as
long
as
it's
attached
to
land,
it's
always
gonna,
be
there
is.
What
I
understand
is
that
right.
G
D
B
D
D
Now,
if
I
mean
you
can
do
a
home
occupation,
but
you
can't
have
people
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
have
clients
coming
in
and
out.
Anybody
can
do
a
home
occupation
in
their
house.
You
make
things,
sell
them
online
or
whatever,
but
you
can't
have
a
sign
outside
saying:
I'm
selling,
something
you
can't
have.
Okay,
gonna
have
the
deliveries
in
terms
of
UPS,
but
it
can't
be
excessive.
I
mean
there
are
lots
of
people
in
this
city
that
are
doing
home,
occupation.
F
C
H
D
B
C
G
C
D
D
You
know:
do
we
pick
120
if
we
want
to
increase
it?
For
the
you
know,
the
purpose
of
what
the
city
is
trying
to
do
next
door?
Do
we
make
it
125
so
that
way
it's
negotiable,
but
it's
negotiable
under
a
structured
environment,
so
it
requires
a
development
agreement
and
because
it
is
a
in
effective
change,
it
also
will
require
the
county
board
of
the
county
commissioners
to
also
approve
it.
D
So
the
language
is
instead
of
saying
you
know
not
to
exceed
150
units
and
just
call
it
a
day,
because
then
we
would
be
still
in
compliance.
We
made
it
more
flexible,
so
in
effect
it's
any.
You
could
ask
for
anywhere
between
80
up
to
150,
but
that
would
need
to
be
in
a
development
agreement
and
it
would
need
to
go
to
the
Pinellas
County.
D
So
so,
as
I
said,
our
local
resident
regulations
take
precedence
over
the
countywide
plan
standards,
but
right
now
this
district
allows
80
hotel
units
per
acre,
which
is
what
is
adopted
and
what's
the
maximum
allowed
I
understand
and
under
the
countywide
rules,
I
said
it
could
go
up
to
150.
I
know
the
negotiations
are
still
involved.
I
think
it's
up
to
like
125,
potentially
is
what
they're
looking
at
next
door
and
that
would
be
part
of
the
development
agreement.
Development
agreements
come
for
you
guys.
D
D
D
B
J
G
Up
they
want
a
rooftop
bar
and
they're
gonna
density
density
density
density.
What
have
we
learned
from
density
through
this
pandemic?
It's
a
bad
thing-
and
this
is
my
soapbox.
I-
am
against
density.
I
have
listened
to
our
mayor.
Talk
about
the
only
way
downtown
can
survive
commercially
and
economically
is
density,
and
that's
what
we
learned
from
the
kids
from
the
University
of
South
Florida
that
came
over
here
and
built
all
those
beautiful
displays
in
the
library
years
ago.
Well,
we
learned
from
that.
G
G
I
wanted
to
speak
in
a
forum
here
where
I
would
be
recorded
and
said
Dale's
against
density.
Now,
if
we
limit
this
to
80,
well,
that's
better
than
150,
so
I'm
kind
of
like
not
in
compliance
with
this
idea.
Granted
we
have
us
the
county,
the
city
council
and
the
county
commissions,
but
when
a
developer
walks
in
here
with
his
big
dollar
signs
and
I'm
gonna
make
you
this
thing
and
it's
gonna
be
you're.
Gonna
get
our
tax
dollars
and
it's
gonna
be
a
good
thing
for
the
city.
Well,
everybody's
gonna
go
yeah.
G
D
E
F
G
F
G
How
would
this
negatively
affect
our
opportunity
and
chances
for
a
developer
to
come
in
there
and
go
I'm
gonna
build
this
wonderful
thing
for
altamar,
which
is
kind
of
what
the
council's
driven
to
ward
I
mean
you
we've
heard
about
it,
we've
watched
them
go
through
their
their
checks
and
balances
and
their
evaluations
and
their
checklists
and
their
discussions
and
their
back-and-forth
conversations
with
developer.
Would
this?
If
we
said
we
don't
recommend
this
or
wait,
we
had
five
votes
against
or
whatever
you
know,
however,
it
plays.
We
are
a
recommend
board.
G
D
I'm
not
sure
if
they
can
go
for
a
variance
and
usually
they
were
within
the
development
agreement.
They
could
just
say
we'd
like
to
have
this
increased
density.
The
development
agreement
now
comes
through
you
and
then
you're
gonna
have
to
I
just
deny
the
development
agreement
and
then
that'll
go
to
the
City
Council
and
then
because
it's
an
increase
in
density,
it
still
would
go
to
two
two
Pinellas
County.
D
B
D
We
had
two
options:
we
could
have
gone
with
a
code
amendment
and
then
I
said
pick
a
number
I,
don't
believe
it
would
have
been
150.
We
would
have
said
okay,
we
want
to
increase
the
density
to
130,
say
or
125.
Instead,
we
said
well.
This
still
gives
some
flexibility,
but
also
requires
the
development
agreement.
It's
not
like
somebody
could
just
come
and
do
Bayview
and
just
put
up
150
units
they'd
have
to
come
through
the
city.
Do
negotiations
with
the
development
agreement
so.
C
D
Code
already
has
provisions
for
how
many
parking
spaces
are
required
for
each
hotel
unit.
That
is
also
I
mean
a
lot
of
all
that
improve
information
usually
is
within
the
development
agreement
in
terms
of
how
much
parking
is
being
provided.
Just
like
any
other
developer,
you
guys
know
they
can
go
over
variances
and
request
deviations
from
what's
required
and
tell
us
why
I
haven't
been
involved
in
negotiations
just
presenting
the
code
amendment
so.
D
D
Now
the
city
has
issued
is
in
the
process.
We
issued
an
RFQ
for
I,
know,
there's
been
conceptual
plans
that
City
Council
has
seen
and
accepted,
which
is
not
just
the
hotel
but
other
uses
of
fountain
things
like
that,
and
we
have
an
RFQ
out
which
is
being
reviewed
by
staff
in
terms
of
submissions
which
would
be
for
the
whole
property,
because
the
intent
is
to
develop
the
whole
site,
not
just
the
one
hotel
site,
but
everything
that
it's
integrated
and
worked
at
worked
out
through
that
you
would
do
that's
when
you
get.
D
D
B
H
D
They
technically
wanted
to
that,
but
they
still
would
need
a
development
agreement
to
do
so,
and
they
would
still
have
to
go
through
the
process.
That
was
really
why
we
put
the
language
in
because,
if
you
just
said,
let's
say
150
units,
if
I
just
said
150
units,
that's
it
that's
their
right.
We
have
no
say.
M
Hi
good
evening,
Felicia
Donnelly
assistant
city
manager,
we
are
in
process
of
negotiating
with
the
developer
for
the
hotel.
There
we're
actually
looking
at
present
time
we're
looking
at
a
hundred
and
one
room.
So
it's
still
more
than
the
80
units
and
a
call
right,
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
Pinellas
County
did
designate
this
as
an
activity
center
and
in
there,
and
there
are
leaders
iteration
of
their
countywide
rules
in
the
county
right
map.
M
It
was
really
important
for
them
to
designate
Tampa
Road
as
a
multimodal
corridor
with
higher
density
development,
around
Tampa
Road,
so
two
places
surance
--is
and
for
the
rest
of
the
zoning
Michele
and
our
you
know.
Our
city
attorney
recommended
that
each
one
would
go
through
development
agreement
so
that
we
could
negotiate
the
time
during
the
proposal
for
how
many
up
to
how
many
rooms
would
be
appropriate
for
the
site.
M
So
this
one
we're
looking
at
a
hundred
and
I
think
it's
at
a
hundred
and
one
I
don't
see
it
going
up
in
there
because
they're
constrained
by
the
land
with
the
parking
requirements.
So
right
now
the
the
C
you
know
as
and
right
now
we're
looking
at
selling
them
an
acre
of
property,
which
is
includes
where
the
former
swing
I,
call
it
the
Swain
property
famous
pizza.
There's
a
right-of-way
there,
a
Fairfield
right
has
it's
a
plaited
street.
It
goes
to
Tampa,
but
it
isn't
really
right.
M
So
so
from
Fairfield
over
to
Washington
is
about
an
acre
and
then
the
city
is
intending
to
lease
more
property
so
that
they
can
fit
a
parking
lot
and
until
such
time
that
the
master
plan
is
completed,
which
includes
a
parking
garage.
So
then
the
city
would
enter
into
a
lease
to
lease
the
spaces.
The
hotel
would
Lisa
state
spaces
you'll
see
through
the
development
agreement
for
the
parking
garage.
M
G
M
M
M
Concept
plan
and
the
concept
plan
that
was
approved
by
council
at
this
point
shows
that
we're
using
the
existing
streets
to
access
a
site
which
is
commerce,
it's
kind
of
it's
open,
it's
not
in
the
best
shape,
right
and
then
Fairfield,
which
also
so
it's
just
kind
of
a
an
l-shape
like
this.
If
I'm
looking
at
a
map
up,
Fairfield
and
then
Commerce
and
then
Tampa
roads
here,
the.
M
F
M
So
we
yeah,
so
we
I've
already
met
preliminarily
with
d-o-t
to
talk
about
the
impacts
to
the
site,
so
I
mean
definitely
when
you
add
more
activity
anywhere,
you
generate
more
trips
right.
So
so
you
know,
as
we
move
through
the
master,
the
the
master
planning
process
which
Michelle
just
talked
about.
We
just
received
proposals
back
it's
an
RFQ
for
a
full
master
plan.
We
have
the
traffic
impact
study
as
part
of
that
and
stormwater
studies.
Any
kind
of
study
you
could
think
of
is
in
that
and
then
plot
and
then
plotting
it.
M
So
we
can
parcel
it
off
and
then
it's
also
got
you
know
the
the
engineer.
Design
actually
took
construction
documents
of
all
the
public
space
which
includes
all
the
roadways
and
streetscape
and
then
the
public
space,
which
is
a
very
large
portion
of
the
site
that
the
council
would
like
to
see
remain
in
a
parkland
and
maybe
have
a
fountain
feature.
So
when
you
look
at
the
site
all
total
from
their
concept
plan,
a
lot
of
it
is
still
green
space.
F
A
Mean
there
is
Bob
brings
up
an
excellent
point,
though
I
mean
you're
talking
in
this
street
you're,
putting
a
lot
of
additional
traffic
on
streets
that
are
there,
I
mean
if
you
look
at
it.
It's
we're
not
talking
about
four
five
lanes,
we're
talking
about
very
narrow
type
streets
to
handle
that
additional
volume,
so
I
do
agree
that
dead
and
you
got
to
make
sure
that
that
study
is
gonna,
be
accurate.
The.
M
Volumes
of
trips
haven't
even
been
determined
because
the
land
uses
still
have
to
be
decided.
So
you
know
they
use
that
ite
the
what
is
at
the
international
traffic
engineers
manual
that
really
lays
out
how
many
trips,
your
residential
house
or
a
hotel
generates,
and
so
then
they
look
at
and
they
put
it
in
their
models
and
that's
how
they
project
what
the
roadway
improvements
are.
So
we'll
be
going
through
that
process.
But
right
now
we've
still
got
a.
We
have
a
concept
plan
and
we
have
to
define
what
those
uses
are
I'd.
H
I
live
on
Washington,
so
I
often
have
to
pass
my
street
because
of
the
traffic
coming
in
from
580
and
Tampa.
Road,
converging
and
I
have
to
go
on
down
and
make
a
turn
because
I
can't
already
so
I
guess.
My
my
question
is:
if
are
we
not
going
to
have
this
developer
stay
and
if
we
didn't
increase
to
this
hundred
and
whatever
I
guess?
Who
will
the
developer
not
stay
within
the
eighty.
H
M
They're
exceeding
the
threshold
for
80
right,
so
the
code
doesn't
allow
a
variance
for
the
units,
the
density
per
acre.
So
the
code
only
allows
like
8
things.
You
can
get
a
variance
board
and
that's
not
one
of
them,
so
yeah,
it's
very,
very
possible
that
they
would
not
be
interested.
They've
they've
come
up
with
a
financial,
feasible
plan
that
works
for
their
business
model,
with
also
what
the
city
asked
for
you
know.
We
were
very
specific.
We
want
a
boutique
hotel.
We
want
a
rooftop
bar.
M
B
H
H
H
E
We've
seen
way
too
many
in
Oldsmar
and
and
and
driving
down
Tampa
Road
is
is
I
mean
it's
not
attractive,
but
you
know
the
fact
that
we
have
a
lot
of
restaurants
and
we
have
hotels
means
that
we
have
great
infrastructure
to
support
something
more,
and
so
you
look
at
you.
Look
at
you.
Look
at
that
safety.
Harbor
they've
got
the
the
hotel
kind
of
anchoring
the
development
down
that
Street.
E
E
E
G
G
G
B
G
C
F
F
With
that
number,
why
don't
you
just
all
of
a
sudden,
throw
it
away
and
say:
oh
well,
you
know
my
strengths
know
why
but
I
don't
know
you
when
you
plant,
when
you
put
that
much
effort
and
energy
and
time
into
planning
something
and
you
finally
come
up
the
number
or
whatever
y'all
tryin
to
stick
with
it.
I
mean
I,
know,
there's
gonna
be
some
exceptions,
but
yes,.