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From YouTube: Public Arts Commission | Sept 15, 2021
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Palm Springs Public Arts Commission Meeting, held September 15th, 2021
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So
now
is
the
time
set
aside
from
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
public
arts
commission
on
items
of
general
general
interest
within
subject
matter,
jurisdiction
of
the
commission
and
agenda
items
if
the
member
of
the
public
cannot
be
present
later
in
the
meeting
at
the
time.
The
item
is
heard
by
the
commission.
Additionally,
members
of
the
public
may
address
the
commission
on
each
item
listed
on
the
post
agenda
at
the
time.
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So
I
think
I'm
I'm
gonna
keep
it
in
for
the
meetings,
because
it's
one
way
of
kind
of
wrapping
up
stuff.
Maybe
that
couldn't
get
on
the
agenda
like
we
could
talk
about
it
as
it's.
You
know
a
category
remarks
from
the
chair
and
kind
of
use
it
to
you
know,
give
notice
about
upcoming
things,
and
you
know,
give
tips
and
stuff
like
that,
maybe
from
russell,
and
I
on
things
that
you
guys
don't
know
about
so
that
so
I
just
have
a
a
few
things
that
I
you
know.
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This
trip
has
changed
radically
and
we
were
not
able
to
plan
anything
and
where
I
was
last
week,
they
they
couldn't
guarantee
me
having
any
wi-fi.
So
I
was
like
way
out
in
the
countryside
and-
and
I
always
work
in
brazil
and
it's
so
funny.
We
I've
never
had
the
we
haven't
had
this
much
problem
with
with
internet
service
and
phone
service
in
like
a
decade
so
other
than
that.
So
I
thank
you
for
your
patience
on
that.
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So
so
in
the
meantime,
the
city
council
sent
out
this
matrix
to
all
the
departments
and
the
commissions,
and
they
want
us
to
spend
time
talking
about
what
we
want.
Our
purpose
for
the
year
to
be-
and
you
know,
maybe
put
some
goals
in
and
then
we're
going
to
send-
that
to
the
city,
council
and
they'll
use
that
to
like
kind
of
evaluate
us
for
the
year,
and
then
we
can
use
that
to
self-evaluate
us
and
it's
actually,
I
think,
a
good
thing
to
then
put
on
this
matrix.
Like
hey.
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So
we
could
have
a
few
meetings
in
a
row
just
to
kind
of
line
up
projects
and
things
we
want
to
do
so.
We
kind
of
pre-flight
them
and
and
have
like
you
know,
by
mid-october,
have
like
a
bunch
of
things
in
the
can
that
we
want
to
do
and
then
you
know
then
go
to
meet
once
a
month.
So
so
that's
something
to
think
about
what
you
guys,
how
you
guys
feel
about
that
and
then.
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And
then,
okay,
so
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
changes
of
the
ordinance
talk
about
the
mural
ordinance
and
if
you
guys
are
since
this
is
now
a
meeting
with
we
with
the
ability
to
vote,
we
can
vote
on
that
tonight
if
we
want
to
with
whatever
we
want
to
go
ahead
with,
which
would
be
great
actually
and
then
I
had
put
on
the
agenda.
If
we
want
to
do
subcommittees,
we
didn't
really
we've
had
them
in
the
past.
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Projects
that
we
have
going
it
won't
be.
This
won't
be
the
whole
list,
but
shonda
has
been
working
on
her
stop
in
the
name
of
love
project
so
and
we
can
all.
We
can
also
ask
jay
to
send
out
an
email
on
this,
and
then
you
guys
just
send
me
individually
what
you're
interested
in.
So
it's
nice.
If
shonda,
we
can
ask
shonda
herself
if
she
wants
help,
but
it's
it's
always
nice
to
have
someone
help
on
a
project.
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So
shonda
has
her
stop
in
the
name
of
love.
We
have
a
project
that
it's
a
maintenance
project,
so
we
part
of
what
we're
supposed
to
do
is
the
public
arts
commission
is
maintain
our
collection,
which
we
basically
started
doing
or
restarted
after
many
years.
We
started-
I
don't
know,
maybe
two
years
ago,
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
so
we
have
a
couple
contracts
on
that.
So
that's
maintenance.
I
was
working
on
that
last
year
and
then
we
have
I'm
doing
maintenance
art
roster.
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Another
project
we
have
is
the
museum.
Last
year,
because
of
covid
we
base
basically
the
and
because
they've
had
so
many
people
leave
the
museum
that
project
kind
of
went
by
the
wayside
for
last
year,
like
they
didn't
have
any
staff
staff
ability
to
do
any
public
programming,
even
if
it
was
online
with
us,
so
they
just
told
us
they
didn't
have
that
ability.
So
I'd
love
to
start
that
back
up
again
and
we
always
want
programming
with
the
museum
to
be
part
of
our
public
outreach.
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Since
we
give
them,
we
have
been
giving
them
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year
from
the
public
arts
commission
and
with
that
they're
supposed
to
offer
the
public
a
certain
amount
of
public
art
programming
with
the
public
arts
commission.
So
and
with
that
program
they
have
the
free
admission
on
thursday
night.
So
that's
basically
what
the
money
pays
for
and
then,
when
we
do
programming
with
them,
it's
usually
on
thursday
night
during
their
free
free
at
open
hours.
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So
we
also
have
social
media.
So
that
is
a
project
that
I'm
that
we
can.
We
also
need
help
on.
So
if
you're
interested
in
that
send
me
an
email
and
then
we've
been
doing
temporary
art,
so
I
added
this
as
maybe
something
that
we,
you
know,
always
want
to
work
on
russell's
kind
of
always
been
working
on
it
since
he's
been
on
the
commission,
but
you
know
we've
had
a
lot
of
success
with
it,
so
it's
really
valuable.
E
I
think,
and
then
another
item
that
we
can
talk
about
during
the
the
roundtable
kind
of
part,
is
our
neighborhood
grant
program.
Now
some
of
the
emails
that
we've
gotten
would
have
been
paid
for
last
year.
Under
this
neighborhood
grant
program,
slash
cares
program.
We
kind
of
did
two
at
the
same
time
last
year
because
of
covid.
E
We
had
just
launched
the
program
with
the
neighborhood
ps
one
group,
and
we
had
launched
it
with
with
the
business
community
and
then
co
would
hit.
So
you
know
we
had
the
brochures
out
the
marketing
started,
and
then
everything
went
up
everything
closed
down
for
a
number
of
months.
So
then
we
converted
that
neighborhood
grant
program
because
no
one
could
meet
in
person
and
you
really
and
ps1
wasn't
meeting
and
you
know
the
whole
idea
behind
the
neighborhood
grant
was
to
have
the
community
work
together
on
it.
E
E
Community
artist,
response
to
the
economic
shutdown
cares
program
and
used
it
more
as
a
way
of
hiring
artists
and
doing
things.
It
was
mostly
for
the
business
community
to
help
the
city
so
we've
we
wrapped,
we
basically
wrapped
that
up
and
it
would
be
nice
to
think
about
relaunching
our
neighborhood
grant
program,
because
there
is
a
desire
for
it,
and
I
know
commissioners
are
desirous
of
it.
So
so
we
can
think
about
that
and
think
about
what
money
we
would
put
towards
it.
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So
I
would
certainly
give
due
notice
of
the
date
that
I'm
going
to
leave
my
seat
on
the
commission,
but
I
think
it's
at
this
point.
It's
probably
important
to
have
somebody
in
place
as
the
co-chair
that
will
be
in
place
for
the
year
rather
than
me
being
here
for
a
couple
of
months
and
then
say:
okay
now,
I'm
leaving.
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Well,
yeah,
I
think
it's
sort
of
time
for
my
next
stage
after
palm
springs,
certainly
after
this
past
summer.
I
definitely
do
not
want
to
be
here
in
the
summer
anymore,
so
I
think
I
might
just
make
a
complete
change
and
with
the
friend
we
have
this
house
in
new
mexico,
so
I
think
that's
going
to
be
my
next
destination.
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So
I
would
like
to
ask
everybody
if
they
how
they
feel
about
the
changes
that
you
know.
We
worked
up
last
year
that
were
submitted
to
all
of
you
guys
and
if
you
or,
if
you
have
changes
to
that,
if
you
have
other
changes
along
with
the
mural
ordinance
and
then,
if
we
vote
on
that
vote
on
it
tonight
so
jay.
The
next
meeting
the
city
council
meeting
is
next.
The
23rd
correct.
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A
Two
other
people,
along
with
myself,
met
to
just
sort
of
create
a
mission
statement
or
to
review
it
that
may
actually-
and
you
guys,
will
probably
make
some
changes
to
it,
but
that
may
actually
respond
to
the
city's
request
about
what
we
want
to
do
this
year.
President.
It
encompasses
all
of
that
plus
it
responds
to
item
g,
section
1.
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So
maybe
we
go
through
the
muriel
muriel
mural
ordinance,
and
then
we
can.
I
I
like
jay's
idea
of
doing
it
with
the
matrix,
because
I
think
it
we
may
be
getting
a
little
head
and
I
don't
want
to
get
caught
in
in
the
specifics,
because
mural
is
very
tactical,
whereas
what
we
did
was
a
little
broader.
A
Yeah-
and
I
just
put
what
we
came
up
with
in
the
chat,
I
think
for
the
the
general
public
arts
ordinance.
I
know
we
talked
a
lot
about
that
on
our
july
21st
meeting.
I
have
a
lot
of
notes
of
things
that
we
had
questions
about
and
I
was
just
wondering
tracy
what
what
do
you
think
should
be
our
process
for
like
addressing
the
things
that
we
talked
about
in
july?
How
how
do
we,
because
we
just
talked
about
a
lot
of
stuff,
but
we
didn't
make
any
tangible
updates
to
the
ordinance.
E
So,
looking
at
the
this
mission
statement,
the
one
thing
we
are
not
allowed
to
do
at
the
moment
is
educate.
So
unless
we
change
the
ordinance,
we
couldn't
use
this
mission
statement.
So
I
agree
with
the
educating.
I
mean
we've
kind
of
gone
so
did
it,
but
we
kind
of
have
to
follow
the
you
know
like
no
one
was
supposed
to
be
doing
these
education
programs
that
we've
been
doing
because
they're
not
part
of
the
public
arts
ordinance.
E
So
the
the
arts
ordinance
is
basically
we
place
public
art
that
you
know
supposedly,
is
mostly
you
know.
Mostly
businesses
would
want
to
place
public
art,
but
since
a
lot
of
them
don't
seem
to
want
to,
then
we
do
this
other
programming.
So
our
our
purpose
is
to
approve
art
that
developers
bring
to
us.
E
E
So
I
think
if
we
get
changes
to
the
ordinance
approved,
then
we
could
take
a
mission
like
this
from
that
right,
so
so
yeah
that
could
be
part
of
the
matrix
right.
But
unless
we
change
the
ordinance
we're
going
to
be
really
limited
on,
you
know
like
the
grant
program
we
did
last
year,
they
approved
it,
but
at
the
end
you
know
we
had.
We
had
had
this
whole
program
approved
and
it
was
written
up
in
you
know
this.
E
So
we
all
are
on
like
we're
on
the
same
page
as
the
city
council
and
we're
on
the
same
page
as
city
staff,
and
so
we
know
if
we're
you
know,
because
we
did
a
lot
of
work
on
things
last
year
that
at
the
end
did
not.
You
know
what
things
that
we
didn't
have
to
get
approved.
That
way.
You
know
three
months
earlier,
then
we
ended
up
having
to
get
them.
You
know
everything
approved
by
the
city
council
and
they
said
no
to
a
whole
bunch
of
things
that
we
had
spent.
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A
But
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
wanted
to
add
to
the
powers
and
duties
of
the
commission
was
the
ability
to
determine
our
mission.
At
least
I
had
that
we
had
talked
about
that
and
I
didn't
know
because
I
I
think
that
the
version
j
sent
out
for
this
meeting
is
exactly
the
same
as
what
we
had
in
the
the
same
proposed
changes
in
july.
So
I
didn't
know,
are
we
gonna
make
more.
E
Proposed
changes:
well,
that's
what
this
meaning
was
to
discuss
like
if
you
guys
had
come
up
with
you
know
if,
if
between
you
meeting
or
between
you
individually,
if
you
had
other
ideas
or
I
kind
of
have
read
them,
you
know
you
know
I
thought,
oh
maybe
we
ask,
you
know
for
more
funding
right
and-
and
I
just
don't
think
that's
gonna
fly
like
I
read
them
again
and
we
did
spend
a
lot
of
time
over
the
past
few
years
talking.
You
know
like
this.
E
These
changes
are
meant
to
like
pave,
you
know,
repave
the
road
and
also
open
the
road.
You
know,
and
it
kind
of
reflects
a
lot
of
issues
we
had
and
like
desires.
We
had
to
do
like
more
programming
with
the
museum
or
you
know,
do
more
programming
with
the
high
school
or
have
you
know
a
public
arts?
You
know
we
could
have
a
public
art
seminar
like
you
know.
E
E
Yeah,
like
we
had
our
own
mish,
we
had
a
mission
for
the
past
few
years
that
we
tried.
You
know
we
stru
strove
to
follow,
and
then
this
could
you
know
we
could
have
this
new
mission
right
and
then
that
could
be
the
mission
that
the
commission
strives
to
follow
for
the
next.
You
know
for
this
term
or
whatever.
So
I
think
that
that
would
be
great.
So
you
know
because
the
other
mission,
I
think
it
was
like
statement
of
I
don't
know
if
it
was
called.
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E
Do
think
that
follows
in
the
matrix
right.
So
yes,
you
can.
We
can
use
some
of
this
to
put
into
the
matrix,
but
we
need
to
put
the
ordnance
cart
first
and
then
can
I
just
say
something
to
someone
who's
corrine
griswold
put
something
in
the
chat,
but
we
don't
it's.
This
is
a
public
meeting
and
we
already
had
our
public
comments.
E
So
so
because
it's
a
public
meeting,
we
have
to
have
a
transcript
of
this.
So
I,
if
you
could
you
know
if
you
want
to
come
to
our
next
meeting
or
we
can
respond
to
you
through
email,
but
we
can't
respond
to
you
through
the
chat
like
you've
sent.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
know
we're
not
ignoring
you.
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C
E
Well,
it's
up
to
you
guys
what
you
guys
think,
because
originally
this
was
just
supposed
to
be
a
meeting,
then
other
things
got
added
on
it.
It
was
just
supposed
to
be
a
meeting
to
talk
about
the
ordinance
and
the
and
the
mural,
ordinance
and
kind
of
what
you
guys
are
interested.
You
know
to
kind
of
start
a
discussion
on
what
you're
interested
in
doing
for
this
year.
A
A
C
C
E
Well,
the
decommissioning
is
something
that
I'm
super
in
favor
of
we've
had
discussions
about
this.
We
have
some
artwork
that
just
is
too
expensive
to
repair
for
the
value,
probably
of
it.
So
I
think
that's
a
great
I
mean
supposedly
we
already
can
do
that,
but
it's
really
great
to
put
more
of
this
stuff
in.
C
E
E
So
we
can
kind
of
maybe
if
we
just
kind
of
go
through,
let's
just
go
through
this
and
then
quickly
and
then
we
can
have
more
discussion
about
it.
So
you
guys
kind
of
have
more
information
on
it.
So
the
blue
edits
city
of
council
approval
required
for
expenditures
over
25
000
city
manager
may
approve
any
contract
under
25
000,
regardless
of
type
of
expenditure.
E
So
that
kind
of
happened
that
happened
last
year,
where
a
bunch
of
our
contracts
got
really
held
up
for
months
and
months
and
months
and
months,
and
now
it's
happening
with
any
project
that
we
do.
We
have
to
have
every
single
expense,
even
for
a
sign.
That's
fifty
dollars
or
ten
dollars
approved
by
the
city
council,
and
they
really
don't
want
to
have
to
you
know
it's
that's
actually
asking
a
lot
of
work
for
a
lot
more
people
to
to.
E
You
know,
put
all
these
things
on
the
city
council
agenda
and
you
know,
have
them
approve
like
a
50
expenditure.
So
that's
that's
where
that
comes
from
temporary
art
installations
initiated
but
by
the
public
arts
commission
of
less
than
25
000
do
not
require
city
council
approval
but
may
require
temporary
use
permit.
E
So
this
it's
self-explanatory,
so
it
kind
of
you
know
is
in
line
with
the
one
above
because
they're
temporary
pieces
of
art
they're,
not
any
permanent
piece
of
art
the
city
council
does
have
to
approve.
So
they
do
have
to.
You
know
like
the
talk
they
had
to
approve,
but
any
expenditures
like
so
it
would
be
a
temporary
piece
of
art
that
would
maybe
only
be
up
for
a
couple
of
years.
E
E
E
Establish
a
review
mechanism
for
temporary
art
installations,
so
we
we.
We
did
all
of
these
temporary
art
installations
over
the
past
couple
years
and
we
said
that
we
would
review
them
and
determine
if
we
wanted
to
ask
if
they
were
going
to
be
to
make
them
permanent
or
if
we
want
to
de-accession
them
what
cost
that
would
be
etcetera.
So
we
would
develop
those
policies
and
procedures
for
that.
A
Manager,
I
actually
had
a
question
or
possibly
a
suggested
edit
on
that
section.
I
don't
know
if
now's
the
time,
oh
sure
bring
that
up
so
rather
than
just
approving
it
for
one
year
and
then
deciding
if
it's
if
the
piece
can
be
permanent,
is
there
potential
for
adding
like
a
renewal
process
for
the
temporary
status
so
that
it's
not
a
year
or
forever.
E
Oh
yeah,
so
yeah
we
could
do
that
so
yeah,
we
they
they.
You
know
some
of
them
were
six
months.
Some
of
them
were
two
years.
So
we
just
wanted
to
add
this
renewal
period
so
yeah
we
could,
we
could
add
in
there
you
know,
and
it
could
be
subject
to
you
know
another
year,
renewal
period
or
something
like
that:
okay,
so
yeah,
we
we
definitely
could
have
that
and
then
seven.
E
So
this
is
something
you
know
that
has
happened
over
the
past
few
years
because
we
used
to
have
city
staff,
so
we
at
the
moment
we've
been
contracting
work
so
so,
which
wasn't
some
of
it's
in
our
in
in
the
ordinance,
but
not
all
of
it.
You
know
like
we
can
hire
someone
to
do
like
clerical
work,
but
not
necessarily
more
involved
work.
So
so
that
is
the
reason
behind
that
and
then
we
we
would
like
to
to
have.
E
E
E
I
did
the
30
by
30
celebration
of
our
30th
anniversary
and
so
my
project,
one
of
my
projects
that
year
was
to
do
a
show
called
30
by
30
30
ideas
for
public
art,
for
new
public
art
for
the
city,
and
it
was
an
open
call
for
artists
and
we
had
a
show
of
30
artists
at
the
public
palm
springs,
art
museum.
It
was
really
amazing
and
tot
is
one
of
the
pieces.
E
One
of
the
artists
who
submitted
work,
who
we
really
loved,
so
we've
actually
commissioned
a
bunch
of
work
from
that
show.
So
this
would
allow
us
to
do
that
and
then
the
arts
education
in
the
community,
which
could
either
be
with
the
museum
with
the
school
with
some
other
kind
of
you
know
some
non.
You
know
other
kind
of
program
or
something
like
that.
So
we
really,
I
really
believe
that
public
arts
education
is
really
important
to
nurture
our
youth
and
I've
done
the
the
the
like
a
a.
A
A
I
just
want
to
make
sure,
because
I'm
not
understanding
the
way,
that's
written,
there's
a
mural
and
I
wanted
to
ask
jay
if
it
was
put
onto
the
agenda,
because
I
know
there
was
an
email
sent
out
with
the
joj
mural,
the
richard
wyatt
junior
mural,
to
be
restored
and
the
way
it's
reading
here.
I'm
not
sure
if
that
makes
it
ineligible.
I'm
not
sure
if
I'm
understanding
that
correctly.
A
Yeah,
it's
let's
see
it's
really
weird,
because
when
you
send
me
stuff
like,
for
instance,
when
you
sent
me
all
that
information
about
the
matrix,
the
matrix
only
came
out
with
like
a
redacted,
it
looked
like
an
fbi
form,
but
when
I
pulled
it
up
on
my
computer,
I
could
see
that
it
was
a
form.
But
on
my
laptop
and
on
my
phone,
you
can't
pull
it
up.
A
A
E
Like
yeah
we'd
have
to
talk
about
it,
and
we
also
have
I
mean
we
have
to
come
up
with
a
with
a
you
know:
it's
kind
of
putting
the
carpe
horn
the
horse,
because
we
don't
know
what
this
costs
and
well.
We
have
to
make
a
proposal
to
everybody
about
what
it
would
cost
and
we
should
ask
the
city
attorney
if
that.
A
B
B
That's
what
we're
right
right,
and
so
we
don't
have
an
engineering
report
yet
to
say
the
construction
of
the
tile
artwork
on
the
wall
at
james,
o,
jesse,
is
feasible
and
just
for
everyone
else's
benefit.
It's
the
mural
on
the
james
o,
jesse
south
east
southwest
facing
wall
is
being
proposed
to
be
redone
in
tile
and
the
tile.
B
B
I
think
what
that
was
referring
to
is
pieces
that
would
ordinarily
go
into
a
building
anyways,
and
so,
if,
if
say,
there's
you
know
you're
substituting
in,
I
think
what
I
was
trying
to
defend
against
was
using
public
art
dollars
to
build
a
building
that
the
developer
would
otherwise
have
to
build
with
their
own
funds.
So.
E
E
A
A
E
No,
that's
fine,
I
I!
I
think
it
would
not
be
a
problem,
but
with
that
we'd
always
have
to
ask
the
city
attorney
right
so,
like
I
don't
think
we're
it.
It
sounds
like
to
me.
It
sounds
like
a
project
that
we
would
you
know
it's
under
our
purview,
but
you'd
wanna
always
double
check.
I
would
say
because
it's
such
a
grand
expense.
E
A
A
E
I
think
on
this
project,
the
first
thing
we
have
to
do
is,
and
we
asked
we
asked
cindy
they
were
going
to
follow
through
with
getting
a
recommending.
You
know,
I
know
this
is
off
topic.
I
just
do
it
for
one
minute,
an
engineer
to
go.
Look
at
the
building,
so
what
we
need
to
do
is
follow
up
with
cindy
on
that
and
then
bring
that
report
to
us
with.
E
A
E
But
none
of
this
has
been
done
with
the
current
commission
and
none
of
it
was
done
with
the
prior
commission.
The
only
thing
we
voted
for
what
we
voted:
five
thousand
dollars
to
do
the
engineering
report,
so
we
need
to
you
know,
bring
things
in
front
of
this
whole
new
commission
and
get
their
buy-in
and
get
their
opinion
on
it.
We
can't
just
railroad
people.
A
B
B
The
engineering
report
was
approved
well
procuring.
An
engineering
report
was
approved
so
staff.
We
will
get
on
that
and
make
sure
that
that
moves
forward,
and
it
is
an
important
piece
of
determining
the
feasibility
of
this
project.
So
we
will
we'll
proceed
with
that.
You
know,
as
you
mentioned,
commissioner
velva.
We
are
losing
staff,
and
so
it's
it's
difficult
to
stay
on
top
of
projects.
When
the
person
who
is
leading
it,
you
know,
makes
a
good
career
move.
A
I
I'm
here
to
help
you
all
getting
beautiful
art
and
I
just
when
the
balls
drop.
I
just
want
to
know
how
to
pick
it
up,
and
I
wasn't
told-
and
I
didn't
know-
and
I
and
I
just
want
to
do
what's
best
for
the
community
and
for
palm
springs,
and
I
want
to
get
it
done,
and
I
really
just
need
your
all's
help
to
get
it
done
and
talking
about
the
value
of
how
much
it's
going
to
cost.
I
guess
it's
moot
until
we
got
the
engineering
report,
so
thank
you.
A
E
A
A
A
E
A
Tracy,
can
I
be
high
maintenance
again
and
ask
if
oh
is
the
wed
wednesday
good
for
everybody,
or
can
we
move
it
to
a
thursday,
because
on
wednesdays,
I'm
going
to
miss
another
of
the
black
history
committee
meeting
and
I
I
want
to
stay
connected
to
all
the
meetings
in
all
the
communities.
So
I
can
help
get
more
art
to
everybody.
E
E
A
E
E
A
E
A
E
E
C
E
So
that
was
in
the
changes
to
the
public
arts,
ordinance
that
I
read
right.
I
would
recommend-
and
I
I
don't
know
if
russell
will
say
the
same
thing.
I
would
recommend
only
that
change
to
the
mural
or
ordinance
because
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
a
few
years
ago,
changing
this
mural
ordinance
to
what
it
is.
Now,
it's
a
thousand
times
better.
E
C
A
A
E
So
any
any
suggestions
for
changes
you
guys
are
going
to
send
around
we're
going
to
ruminate
over
them
and
then
try
to
put
write
them
up
in.
You
know
like
a
color
for
each
per.
You
know,
whatever
you
guys,
send
them
as
a
group
of
three
changes,
we'll
make
them
purple
or
something
like
that
and
add
them
in,
and
then
we
can
discuss
it
next
thursday
and
then
vote
on
it.
E
E
Yeah
and
the
agenda
has
to
go
out
tomorrow
or
it
has
to
be
done
tomorrow,
right
jay.
So
so,
if
you
know
I
kind
of
compiled
gary's
into
an
item
that
could
be
shared
with
everybody
like
he
sent
an
email
so
I'll
compile
them.
If
people
send
them
individually,
I'll
compile
them
into
one
document
and
then
we'll
send
it
around
to
everybody.
E
E
B
C
E
E
D
Yeah,
you
know
it
got
me
thinking
when
people
were
suggesting
other
places
to
move
the
mural
and
we
sort
of
have
a
couple
different
boundaries.
One
is
the
sheer
size
of
the
mural
and
two
is
the
material
of
how
it's
and,
as
I
was
driving
around
the
city,
I
just
thought.
Well,
you
know,
let's
take
a
step
back
and
what
are
we
focused
on?
Are
we
focused
on
the
actual,
tangible
mural,
the
delivery
mechanism
or
the
message
and
to
me
the
message
is
more
important
than
the
three
pieces
of
plywood.
D
But
then
I
was
driving
by
the
parking
garage,
and
I
thought
you
know
what
we
have
these
big
open
places
here
and
that
could
be
a
great
place
that
to
put
messaging
of
some
kind
if
we
controlled
it,
and
so
I,
but
I
understand
that
you
know
the
the
george
floyd
mural
has
a
very
special
place
for
a
lot
of
people.
I
just
want
to
make
it
more
impressive.
I
want
to
give
it
a
sense
of
agency
rather
than
just
ad
hoc,
because
that's
what
it
was
intended
for.
D
It
was
three
pieces
of
plywood
and
then
painted
on
the
on
the
wall
behind
it.
So
wherever
we
do
it,
we're
gonna
have
to
continue
with
the
reconstruction
of
it,
and
I
wanted
to
address
that
point
because
I
think
that
as
we
move
forward,
we
should
be
making
a
more
deliberate
choice
with
how
we
determine
what
is
important,
not
only
to
put
our
funds
behind,
but
also
what
does
palm
springs
and
the
public
arts
commission
stand
for.
E
C
Yeah,
let
me
just
make
a
couple
of
comments
if
I
may,
because
certainly
the
george
floyd
mural,
even
though
we
on
the
commission
have
approved
the
expenditure
of
3
800
for
its
relocation
and
restoration
at
a
different
location
city
council
has
not
yet
approved
the
funding.
For
that
I
expected
it
would
have
been
on
their
last
meeting
and
it
was
not
so
that
is
still
up
in
there,
because
we
certainly
do
need
to
have
their
approval
before
we
can
do
anything
and
most
certainly
because
I've
been
looking
around
and
speaking
to
local
developers.
C
C
That
could
be
a
possibility,
but
I
certainly
am
also
very
agreeable
to
the
proposition
of
making
it
a
permanent
mural
somewhere
else
and
not
just
a
temporary
piece,
so
we
keep
shuffling
around
so
we
could
address
this
in
a
couple
of
ways.
We
could
put
this
on
our
next
agenda
item
being
that
it's
not
going
to
city
council
yet
and
and
firmly
decide
do
we
want
to
indeed
move
this
or
do
we
want
to
just
recreate
it
on
a
more
permanent
site
somewhere
else
in
town,
because
it
is
it's
it's
challenging
finding
a
wall.
C
That's
40
feet
wide
to
accommodate
this
mural,
so
I
think
I've
approached
several
developers
and
walls
and
they've
all
said
no
to
it
because
of
the
size,
so
I'm
open
to
either
and,
like
I
said,
city
council
has
improved
it
yet
so
we're
still
in
that
limbo
period.
So
we
could
agendas,
put
this
on
the
agenda
for
our
october
meeting
and
just
pulled
off
and
putting
it
into
the
city
council,
I'm
open
to
all
any
or
all
of
that.
D
D
E
This
was
russell's
project,
so
so
I
really
appreciate
what
you
said
russell
on
the
the
other
way
of
looking
at
it
too.
Maybe
you
know,
because
I
I
was
on
this-
you
know
I
I
really
like
to
support
other
commissioners
projects.
You
know
I.
I
really
think
it's
important
if
we
can
get
to
consensus
on
things
and
sometimes
you
don't
always
get
what
you
want
and
sometimes
you
do
and
or
we
just
you
know,
reach
a
consensus
so,
but
you
know
I
kind
of
had
said
last
year.
E
E
However,
you
know
we
could
look
at,
but
I
did
vote
to
to
you
know
move
forward,
because
I
do
respect
the
work
of
the
commissioners
and
the
idea
behind
them
and
I
thought
it
was
important
to
support
it,
but
now
that
it's
come
up
again,
maybe
another
way
of
looking
at
it
too.
Is
you
know,
the
message
is
not
ephemeral
right
so
and
we
want
to
make
sure
the
message
isn't
ephemeral.
So
maybe
it's
you
know,
george
floyd
mural
up
to
you,
know,
2.0
or
or
have
the
artist
reimagine
it.
E
E
So
maybe
there
would
be
more
options
or
something
like
that
and
then
donate
the
the
pieces
that
exist
will
be
extent
to
someone
who
would
like
to
hang
them
right,
and
you
know
we
could
produce
a
story
for
it
right,
like
you
know,
with
you
know,
photograph
of
how
it
was
you
know
installed.
You
know
it
could
be
a
whole
education
tool
right,
like
you
know,
you
know
these.
E
You
know
because
it's
all
related
to
cobit
too
right.
It's
it's
also.
Things
were
shut
down.
Everything
was
boarded
up
like
this
whole
idea.
Behind
a
lot
of
the
the
art
ephemeral
art
that
happened
in
the
united
states
was
because
of
that
too
right.
So
beyond
the
message
of
george
floyd,
it's
kind
of
this
whole
covid.
E
C
E
C
E
B
E
Thanks
all
right,
so
so
we're
continuing
three.
So
so
four
we
should
finish
next
week,
but
I
we
should
start
it
today
and
then
we
should
and
then
I
would
like
to
continue
five.
We
kind
of
discussed
during
my
remarks,
but
I
think
we
should
add
one
more
idea
is
temporary
art.
You
know
having
a
group
that
wants
to
review
all
of
our
temporary
art
that
we
approved
over
the
past
two
years.
E
E
E
And
we
can
add
multiples,
but
I
think
it
would
be
better
for
brief,
so
we
can
say
at
the
end
of
the
year
that
we
accomplished
our
goals
so
that
to
me,
is
priority
number
one,
but
what
are
you
do?
What
other
priorities?
Can
you
guys?
Think
of
or
do
you
have
on
your
mind
and
talking
about
the
mission
statement
you
worked
on,
do
and
have
any
ideas
or
do
you
want
to
still
think
about
it?.
C
E
B
No,
I
think
what
russell's
saying
is
accurate.
You
know
having
each
commissioner
contribute
their
thoughts,
but
it
will
be
consolidated
by
the
group
into
the
commission's
matrix.
So
ultimately,
it
is
boiled
down
to
the
two
priorities
of
the
commission
and
I
believe
the
intent
here
is,
you
know
to
to
try
and
focus
the
entire
city,
as
all
the
commissions
are
doing
this
on
on.
You
know
the
attainable
one-year
goals,
and
I
think
it
also
calls
for
identifying
future
year
goals
too.
E
B
It
you
know,
and
having
just
done
this
with
the
human
rights
commission,
you
know
they
were.
You
know,
happy
to
identify
what
what
they
believe
in
their
you
know.
A
few
commissioners
did
throw
out
some
ideas.
The
chair
in
that
group
will
be
consolidating
them
into
a
draft
and
sending
that
out
again
we
will
be
sending
that
out
again
to
the
rest
of
that
commission
in
terms
of
process.
B
So
you
know
those
ideas
can
flow
in
we've.
Had
some
good
discussion
about.
You
know
looking
by
looking
at
the
ordinance
things
we're
doing,
but
maybe
maybe
if
there
were
just
one
or
two
items
you
know
we
wouldn't
be
having
having
to
push
items
off
the
agenda
to
the
next
meeting.
So
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
thought.
B
B
And
chair
you
know:
you're,
updating
the
ordinance
is
a
good
one.
Maybe
there's
a
project.
You
know
just
education
may
be
part
of
it.
I
believe
the
human
rights
commission
really
focused
on
facilitating
communication
in
the
community,
so
you
know
that's
kind
of
a
another
area
that
that
they
looked
at
so.
E
I
mean
do
people
want
to
throw
out
some
ideas
and
then
you
know
I'll
take
a
few
notes
and
then
maybe
we
maybe
people,
email,
more
ideas
and
then
like
with
the
ordinance.
We'll
kind
of
you
know
like
what
jay
was
saying.
The
human
rights
commission
did
like
we'll
kind
of
combine
them
and
then
put
them
out
for
the
meeting.
So
if
we
approve,
we
finished
it
by
the
next
meeting
that
would
work
for
them.
C
If
not
unfair,
I
would
recommend
that,
because
I
certainly
think
prior
number
one
should
be
making
the
changes
to
the
our
arts,
ordinance,
yeah
and
each
one
of
those
commissioners
can
send
you
two
or
three
other
items
so
that
are
meeting
next
week.
We
can
hand
pick
the
next
two
that
would
go
on
to
the
list.
B
D
So,
and
what
I
mean
by,
could
we
be
as
broad
as
say
now
that
we
have
five
districts
within
the
city
of
palm
springs?
The
public
arts
commission
is
going
to
work
towards
having
a
piece
of
permanent
art
representing
each
district
in
each
district,
rather
than
just
focusing
on
downtown.
Is
that
broad
enough.
B
E
D
E
Yeah
and
part
of
the
reason
like
I
came
up
with
this
neighborhood
grant
program
the
other
year,
part
of
the
the
reasoning
behind
that
was,
I
felt
and,
and
that's
part
of
the
reason
I
joined
the
commission
here,
for
my
first
term,
was
that
I
really
felt
like
public
art
was
not
represented
in
the
whole
community
and
I
really
feel
like
permanent
residents,
and
you
know
art
should
be
everywhere,
and
that
was
our
theme
one
year.
So
you
know
kovid
really
messed
up
with
that
outreach.
E
So
you
know
what
you
know.
The
five
district
thing
is
going
into
kind
of
what
we
were
talking
about
with
the
neighborhood
grant
programs
too.
So
you
know
if
we
want
to
do
the
neighborhood
grant
program,
maybe
we
change
it
to
five
district
pro.
You
know
think
about
it
in
different
ways,
but
you
know
that
I
think
that
outreach
is
really
important
and
it's
something
we
couldn't
accomplish
last
year
because
of
coga
I
mean
we
did
in
a
way,
but
we
couldn't
get
like
all
the
community.
E
A
So
we
need
to
figure
out
like,
for
instance,
I
had
to
go
and
take
those
pictures
and
figure
out
if
the
city
even
owned,
some
of
the
pieces
of
areas
that
they
wanted
to
get
painted,
and
then
I
narrowed
it
down.
There
was
only
two
areas
that
could
be
painted
in
that,
but
then
getting
the
approval
for
that
to
be
approved
so
like
how?
How,
in
the
structure
of
this
five
districts
thing,
would
we
ask
the
parameters
of
what
spaces
can
be
painted
because
not
everybody
knows
all
the
neighborhoods?
A
And
if
we
ask
the
neighbor
captains
or
the
neighborhood
leaders
to
give
us
that
research
and
information,
because
I
think
tracy,
that's
what
you
started
to
do
when
you
did
the
neighborhood
grants.
The
neighborhoods
were
able
to
reach
out
and
say
what
kind
of
art
they
wanted,
and
then
we
were
able
to
allocate
and
try
to
get
that
ball
rolling
and
get
it
done.
A
E
Well,
we're
just
throwing
out
things
for
priorities.
The
project
that
you're
talking
about
the
way
we're
structured
at
the
moment
is
those
additional
boxes
that
you
want.
The
city
council
has
to
approve,
so
we
have
to
vote
on
them,
so
you
could
ask
to
have
it
put
on
the
agenda
for
our
next
meeting
and
we
can
vote
on
those
the
two
additional
boxes
you
want
and
send
it
to
the
city
council.
A
E
Kind
of
getting
into
the
weeds,
though,
like
we're
just
looking
at
this
as
kind
of
an
overarching
thing,
but
if
we
want
to
do
the
neighborhood
grants
again,
we
will
have
to
like
write
them
up
again
and
vote
on
them,
and
you
know
we
could
include
all
of
that
in
it.
But
this
is
I
I
think
the
goal
of
this
is
it's
not
so
you
know
down
to
the
details.
It's
like.
We
would
like
to
work.
E
A
A
A
E
Are
we
doing
at
neighborhood?
No
we're
we're
just
talking
now
about
our
goals,
basically
for
this
matrix.
So
what
you're
talking
about
is
the
stop
in
the
name
of
love
project,
you
want
to
do
two
additional
boxes
so
just
write
up
like
you
know
the
price
it's
gonna
be
and-
and
you
know,
kind
of
what
that
lady
said
in
the
chat.
You
know
three
or
four
paragraphs,
so
everybody
else
knows
what
this
is
and
then
propose
it,
and
then
we
can
vote
on
it.
E
A
E
E
A
E
A
E
C
E
D
A
D
So
improving
lines
of
communication
with
council
improving
how
work
gets
done
and
developing
new
procedures.
So
I
think
that's
the
portion
where
we
can
say
we.
You
know
if
tracy's
point
about
the
new,
the
the
new
rules
we
need
to
process
of
you
know
the
the
arts
commission
can
approve
certain
amount
or
proceed
with
certain
amounts
of
money.