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From YouTube: Administrative Appeals Board | July 28 2022
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Regular meeting of the City of Palm Springs Administrative Appeals Board, held July 28th, 2022
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A
C
A
A
Right
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
time
set
aside
for
public
comments.
This
time
is
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
administrative
appeals
board
on
agenda
items
and
items
of
General
is
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
this
board.
Although
the
board
values
your
comments,
pursuant
to
the
brown
act,
it
is
General.
We
can
generally
not
take
any
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
A
A
Right,
thank
you.
So
we're
gonna
head
into
our
first
case.
It
is
the
appeal
of
the
administrative
decision
that
Amir
sohil
I
apologize.
If
I'm
not
going
to
say
your
name
right
is
permanently
ineligible
to
operate
a
vacation
rental
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
and
the
administrative
fine
of
five
thousand
dollars
for
operating
an
unregistered
vacation
rental
property
located
at
1351
East,
gem
Circle
in
Palm
Springs.
At
this
time,
I'd
like
the
to
the
city
to
present
their
report.
G
Yes,
good
evening,
chair,
Vice,
chair
and
board
members
City
staff
residents
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
My
name
is
Patrick
Clifford
with
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
special
program,
compliance.
We
oversee
the
vacation
rental
program
for
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
before
you
this
evening,
is
a
staff
report
for
the
property
located
at
1350-1351
East
gem
Circle
here
in
Palm
Springs
staff
has
determined
that
the
owner
has
without
a
registration
certificate
advertised
and
operated
the
property
located
at
1351
East
gem
Circle
as
a
vacation
rental
from
the
items
listed
in
your
staff
report.
G
at
the
time
of
violation
that
registration
certificate
had
not
been
issued
by
our
department
and
was
not
approved
to
become
an
operational
vacation
rental
Additionally.
The
code
officer
that
investigated
the
property
is
on
the
call
code
officer.
Williams
I
would
like
to
invite
you
to
get
more
detail
in
your
investigation.
Thank
you.
C
H
Good
evening
my
name
is
David
Williams
code
compliance
officer
for
the
Department
of
special
program.
Compliance
on
March,
7th
2022,
an
application
for
a
vacation
rental
certificate
was
brought
into
the
department
of
special
programs
by
Mr,
saragati
and
I
apologize.
If
I'm
pronouncing
that
wrong,
the
application
was
received
and
Mr
saragati
was
advised
that
the
approximate
time
for
the
permit
to
be
issued
was
90
days
and
that
would
and
that
we
would
reach
out
to
him
to
schedule
the
safety
inspection
for
the
property.
H
The
safety
inspection
for
the
property
was
then
scheduled
for
March
28th.
The
safety
inspection
was
completed
on
March
28th
at
8
15
and
the
property
passed
the
inspection.
A
passing
inspection
report
was
submitted
to
the
Department
of
special
program
compliance
and
to
Mr
segata
setagati
on
the
inspection
report
under
inspectors
notes,
the
following
statement
appears
important
message
for
new
applicants:
do
not
advertise
or
rent
your
property
short
term
until
you
have
received
written
authorization
from
the
Department
of
special
program
compliance.
H
A
complaint
came
through
the
vacation
rental
hotline.
The
caller
was
reporting
that
someone
was
at
the
property
at
1351
East,
gem
Circle,
and
he
believed
they
were
renting
because
and
that
the
property
did
not
hold
a
vacation
rental
license.
That
is
item
3-2-2
in
your
packet
on
Saturday
April
16th
at
3,
48
PM.
A
second
complaint
came
in
through
the
vacation
rental
hotline
that
reported
that
the
occupants
of
the
property
were
trespassing,
doing
a
photo
shoot
on
the
driveway,
the
front
porch
and
all
through
the
garden.
H
That's
item
3-23
in
your
packet
on
Sunday
April
17th,
a
third
call
came
into
the
vacation
rental
hotline
and
the
caller
reported
that
they
had
called
regarding
the
same
property
the
day
before,
and
that
the
renters
were
trespassing
on
their
property
to
take
pictures
and
he
was
watching
it
all
through
his
security
camera
from
an
off-site
location.
That's
item
3-2-4
on
your
packet
on
April
17th,
a
link
to
an
Airbnb
advertisement
for
the
property
located
at
1351
East.
H
H
445-271,
which
was
for
the
property
of
1351
East
gem
Circle,
that
is,
item
3-28
in
your
packet.
The
advertisement
was
missing:
the
required
four-digit
City
ID,
as
one
had
not
been
issued
and
listed
as
one
had
not
been
issued
for
the
property.
The
property
was
listed
as
a
three-bedroom
house,
with
no
minimum
stereo
crime
requirement
and
that
it
would
accommodate
six
guests,
and
you
would
check
yourself
in
through
the
keypad.
H
The
rental
was
for
the
entire
property
and
hosted
by
Alex.
The
property
had
one
review
from
Marvin
who
stayed
there
at
the
property
in
April
of
2022.
That's
item
3-3-2
in
your
packet
on
April
18
2022
at
7,
40
AM
I
sent
a
booking
inquiry
to
the
host
and
that's
item
3-4-0
in
your
packet.
That
inquiry
reads
good
morning:
I
wanted
to
see
if
your
home
is
available,
May
19th
to
May
29th,
my
husband
and
I
will
be
heading
to
Palm
Springs
with
my
parents,
please
let
me
know
and
I'll
book
it.
Thank
you.
H
H
At
that
time,
an
automated
booking
invitation
was
sent
to
me
at
4
32
PM,
that
same
day,
I
responded,
perfect
I
will
book
it
as
soon
as
I
get
get
home
from
work
at
7
pm.
Is
there
any
additional
charge
like
pool
heat
at
5,
56
PM
the
host
responded?
Yes,
there
is
it's
mentioned
in
the
description
and
other
rules.
H
Heated
pool
requires
additional
fee.
Seasonally
generally
includes
December
through
March.
If
heat
is
not
require,
pool
heating
fees
will
not
be
charged
or
will
be
refunded,
and
those
fees
are
50
per
day.
Three
hundred
dollars
per
seven
day
stay
or
eleven
hundred
dollars
per
24
to
30
days.
There
is
also
a
pet
fee
if
you
are
traveling
with
your
pet
with
just
fifty
dollars
per
trip,
and
that
is
also
on
the
listing
at
that
time.
I
issued
administrative
citation,
a
B,
zero,
three,
seven,
nine
for
operating
a
vacation
rental
without
a
vacation
rental
registration
certificate.
H
A
E
G
Yeah
right
now
we
are
at
a
90-day
process
and
for
new
applications.
I
wanted
to
give
the
numbers
of
where
we're
at
at
that
time,
just
to
kind
of
give
some
context,
but
we
are
processing
at
a
90
day
we
I
do
know.
Currently
we
probably
have
well
over
a
hundred
new
applications
pending
to
be
processed
today.
So
we
are.
We
are
running
with
an
index
of
properties
waiting
to
be
processed.
G
A
H
That's
very
clear
that
is
explained
at
the
counter
when
the
application
is
dropped
off
and
like
I,
read
to
you
it's
in
the
inspection
report.
The
only
thing
they've
that's
been
approved
is
the
inspection.
That's
all
they've
passed
at
that
point.
That's
when
the
office
actually
starts
working
on
the
application
when
they
know
that
the
house
is
ready
to
be
rented.
A
C
C
J
But
the
truth-
yes,
okay,
my
name
is
I-
am
Alex's.
Father
and
I
have
a
PhD
degree
in
physics
from
Harvard
University,
and
we
moved
to
West
Coast
from
East
Coast
two
years
ago
and
my
son
loved
Palm
Spring,
and
he
wanted
to
live
there
with
his
boyfriend,
which
he
thought
it's
a
better
environment
than
east
coast
for
his
lifestyle.
J
J
Let's
talk
about
the
East
gem
circle
now,
thank
you.
I
co-signed
for
Alex,
which
was
his
first
ever
job
and
first
ever
house
to
live
in
he's
only
23
years
old,
my
son.
He
just
got
out
of
UCLA
in
construction,
and
he
I
bought
this
house
for
him
to
fix
it
up
and
he
wanted
to
live
there
with
his
boyfriend,
as
I
said,
and
he
did
and
he
fixed
it
up.
The
first
day
after
the
deed
was
turned
into
his
name.
J
He
applied
for
vacation
rental
because
he
wanted
to
live
there
and
on
weekends
or
some
holidays
to
rent
it
out,
especially
during
the
Coachella
season,
to
make
a
living
for
himself.
He
didn't
have
a
job.
His
tax
return
is
attached
to
the
email
that
they
have
sent
you
and
he
has
made
only
fourteen
thousand
dollars
last
year
and
seventeen
thousand
dollars
the
year
before.
J
He
came
to
the
city
and
applied
paid
the
fees
and
he
was
never.
He
never
received
a
letter
from
the
inspection
stating
that
inspect
passing
the
inspection.
You
have
to
wait
for
whatever
the
honorable
code
officer
mentioned.
He
never
received
such
a
letter,
maybe
because
he
was
not
in
the
premises
and
he's
meeting
the
address
was
different.
J
So
assuming
that
the
inspection
has
passed
and
assuming
that
on
the
application,
it
clearly
said
it
takes
45
days
not
90
days.
He
thought
he
was
okay
to
start.
Even
then
he
was
cautious
and
he
started
advertising
on
Airbnb,
not
violating
the
code
525,
because
he
mentioned
minimum
28
days.
I
have
attached
to
the
email.
I
have
sent
you
a
snapshot,
a
screenshot
of
his
advertisement,
which
clearly
states
28
days
or
29
days,
minimum
the
appendices
that
were
attached
to
the
case
with
three
complaints
on
three
consecutive
days
in
April
from
a
neighbor.
J
She
is
75
years
old,
lady,
which
probably
doesn't
like
a
newcomers.
She
has
a
security
camera
and
she
lives
in
New
York
and
visits
Palm
Spring.
How
does
she
know
where
these
people
that
she
claims
were
trespassing
or
shooting
pictures
came
from
my
son's
property?
The
security
camera
is
on
her
driveway
and
in
that
candlestack
Circle
East
James
Circle.
There
are
three
other
houses
which
are
Airbnb
with
license,
of
course,
I
assume.
J
The
reason
for
that
yes
answer
was
that
Alex
thought
by
then
then
45
days,
even
the
90
days
will
be
over
from
the
application
date
and
he'd
be
okay.
If
he
did
not
receive
that
application
that
license,
then
he
would
have
canceled
it.
So
that
is
not
a
reason
for
him
to
be
counted
as
violating
525
code
of
audience
and
at
the
end
I
want
to
let
you
know
that
this
is
his
only
income.
This
is
his
only
house.
J
He
is
a
23
years
old
kid
with
a
lot
of
power
that
has
come
to
Palm,
Spring
and
finding
him
and
citing
him
and
penalizing
him
paying
five
thousand
dollars.
When
he's
balancing
his
bank
account
is
only
five
hundred
dollars
and
not
letting
him
permanently
to
operate
any
operation
he
he
has
already
listed
his
house
for
sale.
He
is
so
devastated
financially
and
also
emotionally
that
he
would
leave
if
that
is
what
the
old
people
want.
J
If
that's
how
this
city
is
reflected
for
the
people
who
are
newcomers,
they
are
not
quite
familiar
because
we
see
a
lot
of
Airbnb
advertisements
in
Orange
County
in
Dana
Point
in
Laguna
Niguel,
where
there
are
no
City
pyramids
allowed
or
issued
for
short-term
rentals.
But
people
are
doing
that,
but
Alex
went
through
all
legal
steps.
He
made
the
application,
he
had
the
inspection
safety
inspection
passed.
He
did
wait
until
45
days
was
over.
Even
then
he
was
cautious
and
as
a
father,
I
am
asking
you
to
overturn.
J
J
J
A
A
A
A
Actually,
if
the
board
doesn't
mind,
I
would
like
to
go
first
Mr
Sadie
I
apologize.
If
I'm
not
saying
your
name
correctly,
you
had
said
that
he
never
received
the
email
or
letter
that
he
had
passed
the
safety
inspection.
So
my
question
would
be
if
he
didn't
receive
that.
How
did
he
know
he
passed?
It.
J
He
was
verbally
told
by
the
inspector
and
I.
Was
there
myself?
It
was
eight
in
the
morning
that
the
inspector
came
for
the
both
houses
and
he
told
us
verbally
and
Mr,
Gary
Richardson,
who
was
helping
us
to
provide
inspection
and
safety
criteria
for
the
house.
He
was
there
too,
so
we
were
told
verbally
that
he
passed.
J
He
never
not
only
received
that
letter
stating
that
you
should
not
rent
until
you
receive
the
four
digit
license.
He
was.
He
never
received
any
citation
in
the
mail,
nothing
because
I
think
they
were
mailed
to
the
wrong
address.
So
when
they
were
mailed
to
my
primary
house
in
Laguna
Niguel,
a
caterson.
That
was
the
only
time
we
learned
about
the
citation
and
we
never
learned
about
anything
else.
That's
when
we
made
the
appeal.
Even
that
letter
was
wrong.
It
said
five
hundred
dollars
is
your
fee.
J
J
J
A
J
Not
correct
because,
as
the
CPA
code
officer
mentioned,
there
are
100
applicable
applicants.
Does
he
really
remember
every
one
of
them
that
he
has
mentioned?
Maybe
he
forgot
to
mention
that
to
this
applicant,
that's
what
I'm
saying
or
maybe
he's
English
being
his
second
language
not
being
able
to
understand
it.
In
any
case,
he
was
not
aware.
J
B
J
A
L
D
E
I
I
J
J
F
G
Yes,
chair
I
could
just
give
some
clarification
from
what
I've
heard
one
I
do
want
to
go
into
why
we
may
have
issued
a
citation
during
the
process
simply
for
maybe
advertising
or
looking
to
advertise
in
the
future.
Our
administrative
regulation
does
that
was
dated.
September
of
2017
does
Define
advertisements
of
the
property,
which
does
also
include
promoting
interest
in
testing
the
market
for
or
soliciting
the
occupancy
of,
a
property
for
a
period
of
28
consecutive
days
or
less.
A
I
E
G
I
believe,
if
I
recall
looking
at
the
application,
the
one
that
the
Appellate
did
receive,
there
was
a
part
on
the
application.
That
said
is
approximately
45
days.
Additionally,
on
the
applications
itself,
when
one
would
sign
the
application-
and
they
do
sign-
stating
section
c
of
the
application
does
note
that
one
they
will
be
contacted
by
the
office
to
conduct
a
safety
inspection
and
also
the
second
bullet
in
section
c
says
you
are
not
authorized
to
advertise
or
otherwise
operate
a
vacation
rental.
D
I
I
think
it's
important
for
all
of
us
to
remember
that
when
this
legislation
was
created,
there
was
a
country.
Oh
first
of
all,
short-term
rentals
are
very
controversial
anywhere,
but
when
there
was
this
was
a
compromise
and
a
very
strict
regulation
that
would
permit
short-term
rentals,
but
only
under
certain
strict
rules
and
those
rules
have
been
violated,
I'm
the
one
place
for
this
leniency.
The
city
will
negotiate
with
your
son
with
Mr
Amir
for
leniency
and
how
you
make
the
five
thousand
dollar
payment.
K
M
A
I
guess,
from
my
perspective,
I've
seen
the
paperwork
that
the
application,
paperwork
and
I
know
that
it
does
say
approximately
45
days
to
just
count
45
days
and
then
assume.
Everything's
done
is
a
probably
a
dangerous
path
to
go
down
so
I.
You
know
from
my
perspective,
it
seems
like
they
started
the
process
and
then
didn't
allow
it
to
play
out.
We
have
no
idea
because
they
didn't
allow
the
the
city
to
go
through
the
process.
A
There
was
an
acceptance
of
a
request
to
rent
short
term
and
to
me
I've
dealt
with
the
city.
I
know
they
are
pretty
clear
in
that
office
as
to
you
know
what
the
requirements
are
and
I
believe
that
if
they
told
the
applicant
that
you
know
do
not
advertise
it
until
you
have
that
four
digit
ID
number
Unfortunately,
they
decided
to
go
ahead
and
do
that.
So,
as
Mr
Moses
said,
I
think
we
had
a
pretty
clear
violation
of
up
the
rules.
A
He
had
also
said
that
the
property
was
now
for
sale,
so
it
seems,
like
he's,
already
made
his
decision
to
vacate
whether
the
property
or
Palm
Springs,
which
is
unfortunate,
but
that's
not
in
our
control.
The
other
thing
that's
not
in
our
control
is
if
a
neighbor
is
complaining
that
there's
people
on
her
property
that
doesn't
constitute
a
citation
and
so
whether
she
was
right
or
wrong
that
has
no
citation
that
affects
this
property.
What
it
did,
though,
was
alert
to
the
city
to
see
if
there
was
an
advertisement.
J
I
A
L
A
All
right,
thank
you,
everyone
for
your
time
and
effort
on
this
case.
The
accountant
will
receive
an
official
notification
from
the
city
that
about
the
fine
and
the
permanent
ban
on
a
short-term
permit.
That
does
not
preclude
you
from
renting
on
a
long-term
basis
which,
for
the
city's
definition,
is
greater
than
28
nights.
At
this
point,
then,
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
case,
which
is
the
appeal
of
the
administrative
decision
that
many
and
I
apologize
I,
don't
want
to
slaughter
your
name
here.
G
Chair
Vice,
chair
board
members,
City
staff
residents
public
on
the
call
this
evening.
My
name
is
Patrick
Clifford
with
the
Department
of
special
program
compliance.
We
oversee
the
vacation
Royal
program
here
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
and
before
you
this
evening,
is
a
staff
report
for
the
property
located
at
2750
North
chuparossa
Road
in
Palm
Springs
westf
has
determined
that
the
property
was
advertised
and
operated
as
a
short-term
rental
without
a
registration,
vacation
rental
registration
certificate
from
the
findings
that
are
listed
in
the
staff
reports.
G
Additionally,
there
is
background
information
regarding
an
application
that
was
received
for
this
property
on
March
7
2022
and
again
that's
for
the
property
located
at
2750
North
Versa,
Road
Additionally,
the
code
officer
that
investigated
the
property
is
on
the
call
this
evening
code
officer,
Smith
I,
do
invite
you
to
give
further
testimony
regarding
the
details
of
your
investigation.
Thank
you.
N
Sorry
about
that,
my
name
is
Christy
Smith
co-compliance
officer
for
the
office
of
special
programs
on
Wednesday
April
27
2022.
We
received
a
tip
that
the
address
of
2750,
North
Tupa
Rosa,
might
be
operating
as
an
illegal
vacation
rental,
while
investigating
online
on
Airbnb
I
was
able
to
locate
the
listing
for
the
property
at
2750.
North
tuparosa
I
then
sent
a
message
to
the
host
Alex
at
12,
35
PM
that
said,
hi
Alex
coming
into
town
on
May
27th
to
May
31st
was
wondering
if
we
can
get
an
early
check-in.
N
Our
flight
arrives
around
noon
on
the
27th
and
didn't
want
to
drive
around
town
waiting
till
three.
Thank
you
in
advance.
At
12,
49,
PM,
Alex
responded,
hello,
Michelle,
hope
you're
doing
well.
Yes,
no
problem.
We
you
can
do
an
early
check-in.
I
have
my
cleaning
crew
out
and
the
house
will
be
ready
for
you
by
one.
Does
that
work
for
you
at
1,
21,
PM,
I
responded.
That
would
be
perfect.
Thank
you.
Do
you
have
any
pool
rafts?
If
not,
is
it
okay
to
bring
our
own
blow-ups
at
2,
58
PM
Alex
responded.
N
Of
course,
we
have
a
couple
of
wraps
by
the
pool,
but
if
you're
willing
to
bring
your
own
100,
no
problem
I
then
issued
administrative
Citation
ab0382
for
five
thousand
dollars
for
operating
a
vacation
rental
without
a
registration
certificate.
This
concludes
my
presentation
and
I'm
available
for
any
questions.
A
N
A
G
I
L
A
L
A
Does
not
appear
so,
but
thank
you,
okay,
so
we
will
open
up
officially
open
up
this
hearing.
The
appellant
will
have
10
minutes
to
speak
any
member
of
the
public
that
wishes
to
speak
on
this
case.
We'll
have
two
minutes.
If
a
member
of
the
public
chooses
to
speak
on
this
case,
the
appellant
will
have
an
additional
two
minutes
to
respond.
F
C
J
J
This
is
the
house
that
I
bought
with
my
wife
for
vacation
are
on
vacation
and
Alex.
We
wanted
Alex
to
manage
it
of
my
son
to
manage
it
as
well,
and
we
turned
in
the
application
they
paid
the
fee
and
we
read
the
application
which
said
45
days
and
we
had
the
inspection
safety
inspection
passed.
Rarely
told
me
because
they
were
both
houses
done
at
the
same
time,
eight
in
the
morning
and
8
30
in
the
morning,
and
we
will
never
receive
a
letter
saying
that
you
should
wait
until
you
receive
four
digit
letter.
J
If
there
was
anything
emailed
to
me
or
mailed
to
me,
I
would
like
the
city
to
present
it,
because
I
know
for
sure
that
I
have
never
received
anything
like
that.
I,
just
verbally
heard
from
the
safety
inspector
officer
that
it
passed
and
if
you
look
at
the
dates
just
like
the
house,
the
agenda
before
on
the
East
gym
Circle,
it's
end
of
April.
J
End
of
April
is
two
months
almost
two
months
from
the
application
day.
That's
way
past
the
45
days
and
that's
one
month
after
the
safety
inspection
so
because
the
city
was
backlogged
because
of
the
covet
short
staffed.
Whatever
the
administrative
work,
we
were
told
that
the
rest
of
it
is
Administrative
paperwork
after
the
safety
inspection
is
done.
J
So
that
is
probably
not
the
applicant's
fault
that
it
is
taking
more
than
45
days
and
it
the
board
I
request.
Kindly
the
board
considers
that
that
the
applicant
is
different
from
someone
who
does
not
care
about
the
law
and
goals
ahead
and
starts
renting
without
applying
without
paying
the
fee
without
having
the
inspection
without
waiting
for
the
five
days.
There
should
be
a
difference
and
there
were
no
free
citation,
courtesy,
letters,
warning
or
anything
and.
A
J
J
F
A
A
E
E
H
H
H
E
J
A
J
A
J
Yes,
and
but
they
told
me
that
it's
only
administrative
work,
but
we
were
not
told
that
since
we
passed
the
inspection
safety
inspection,
we
cannot
start
because
I
read
the
ordinance,
it
says
45
days
and
they
assumed
as
I
repeat
again
for
the
last
case.
In
this
case
we
never
received
an
email.
I
would
like
to
see
a
proof
of
that
email
sent
to
us
that
we
cannot
operate.
J
A
K
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
I
got
to
tell
you
from
my
perspective,
I've
been
through
this
process.
If
you
receive
the
notification
of
when
the
inspection
is
it's
I
from
my
experience,
they're
not
re-entering
an
email
for
the
results
of
that
inspection,
so
it
would
have
gone
to
the
same
email
address
and
so
I'm
having
a
hard
time
that
you
know
they
received
the
notification
for
the
inspection
and
then
received
nothing
else.
A
A
A
A
It
is
the
appeal
of
the
administrative
decision
that
chip
Martin
LLC
is
permanently
ineligible
to
operate
a
vacation
rental
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
and
the
administrative
fine
of
five
thousand
dollars
for
operating
an
unregistered
vacation
rental
property
located
at
1650
Ridgemore
Drive
in
Palm,
Springs
city
clerk.
Can
you
make
sure
both
the
city
and
the
appellant
understand
that
their
testimony
is
under
oath.
C
G
Escape
me
chair,
Vice,
chair
board
members,
City
staff
residents
on
the
call
this
evening.
My
name
is
Patrick
Clifford
with
the
Department
of
special
program
compliance
and
we
do
oversee
the
vacation
rental
program
here
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
For
you
this
evening
is
a
staff
report
for
the
property
located
at
1650
Ridgemore
Drive
in
Palm.
Springs
staff
has
found
that
the
property
was
advertised
and
operated
as
a
short-term
rental.
From
the
elements
that
are
listed
in
your
staff
report
background.
L
A
G
Yes,
of
course,
I
turned
off
my
camera,
just
in
case
it
was
causing
the
glitch.
So
thank
you.
I
will
just
start
from
the
very
beginning
so
before
you
this
evening,
is
a
staff
report
for
the
property
at
1650
Ridgemore
Drive
in
Palm.
Springs
staff
has
determined
that
the
property
was
advertised
and
operated
as
short-term
rental
from
the
elements
that
are
listed
in
your
staff
report.
Additionally,
I
provided
background
because
on
March,
2nd
2022,
the
department
of
special
program,
compliance
did
receive
an
application
for
short-term
rental
vacation
rental
certificate.
G
G
Additionally
on
White
on
May
28th,
the
city
did
receive
a
vacation
rental
hotline
complaints
for
the
property.
Also,
the
code
officer
that
investigated
the
property
officer
Navan,
is
on
the
call
this
evening
and
can
provide
further
testimony
on
the
investigation
from
the
advertisement
as
well
as
the
hotline
calls
received
and
I'd
like
to
invite
officer
navhand
to
speak.
Thank
you.
O
Thank
you
Patrick
good
morning,
members
of
the
board,
fellow
City
staff
and
members
of
the
public
joining
us
on
the
call
tonight.
My
name
is
Mitch
knappan
and
I'm,
a
code
enforcement
officer
for
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
The
events
leading
up
to
the
issuance
of
citation
ab386
are
as
follows:
on
Saturday,
May
28
2022,
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
is
24-hour
vacation.
O
Rental
hotline
received
a
call
at
12
59
in
the
afternoon
regarding
loud
music
coming
from
the
rental
property
across
the
street,
reported
as
1650
Ridgemore
Drive
I
was
dispatched
on
the
call,
as
the
primary
enforcement
officer
with
officer
Smith,
responding
with
me
as
a
secondary
officer
before
our
response
to
the
property.
I
I
did
call
the
reporting
party
back
to
discuss
the
details
related
to
the
complaint
and
it
confirmed
the
address
that
was
being
reported
as
1650
Ridgemore
Drive
was
not
a
registered
vacation
rental
property
with
the
city.
O
However,
the
reporting
party
confirmed
that
address
as
as
being
the
address
that
they
were
reporting
and
stated
that
the
occupants
have
been
playing
music
all
afternoon
and
there
were
a
lot
of
cars
parked
in
the
driveway.
They
were
also
surprised
to
hear
that
the
property
was
not
a
registered
rental
and
detailed
activity.
They've
observed
at
the
property
for
the
for
the
previous
month
and
a
half
that
is
generally
consistent
with
short-term
rental
operators.
O
Officer
Smith
and
I
arrived
at
the
property
at
13
26,
which
is
126
in
the
afternoon
from
the
street
in
front
of
the
property.
Music
was
heard
coming
from
the
front
side,
yard
pool
area,
and
there
were
six
cars
observed
parked
in
the
driveway.
We
contacted
the
occupants
at
the
front
door
and
found
that
the
property
was
being
rented.
It's
short
term.
The
guests
stated
that
their
father
had
booked
the
property
via
Avant
stay,
the
Yvonne
State
booking
platform
from
Friday
May
27
2022
through
Tuesday
May,
31st
2022..
O
The
guests
then
provided
a
screenshot
of
their
booking
summary
to
officer
Smith.
We
briefly
discussed
the
complaint
that
was
received
in
our
observations
and
provided
the
guest
with
a
copy
of
the
Good
Neighbor
brochure.
The
guests
stated
that
they
were
never
told
any
specific
rules
related
to
their
state,
so
I
detailed,
the
rules
for
music
and
noise,
and
they
were
apologetic
and
stated
that
they
would
turn
the
music
off
and
keep
the
noise
down
for
the
rest
of
their
stay.
The
guests
were
not
issued.
O
A
citation
for
violations
of
the
vacation
run
ordinance
because
the
property
was
not
a
registered
vacation,
rental
property
and
therefore
not
subject
to
the
restrictions
contained
within
related
to
music
and
vehicle
limits.
Upon
arrival
back
at
my
workstation
I
was
able
to
locate
the
advertisement
for
short-term
stays
at
the
property
on
avonstay.com,
as
detailed
I
believe
it's
on
page
59
of
the
staff
report
is
attachment.
Nine
additionally
I
located
an
advertisement
for
short-term
stays
at
the
property
on
airbnb.com,
which
is
located
on
page
61
of
the
staff
report.
O
So
as
a
result
of
the
provided
booking
summary
along
with
the
advertisements
on
Avant
stay
in
Airbnb,
it
was
found
that
the
property
was
operating,
a
vacation
rental
without
an
operating
certificate
and
the
citation
was
issued
for
a
violation
of
psmc
525040a
to
the
property
owner.
So
that'll
conclude
what
I
have
to
present
and
I'm
available
to
answer
any
related
questions
that
the
board
may
have.
Thank
you.
G
E
A
G
You
know
I,
don't
believe
it
was
turned
in
person,
I
believe
it
was
mailed
and
the
only
reason
why
I'd
say
that
is
because
let
me
check
if
it's
on
attachment
attachments
five,
because
payment
came
separately
as
well,
so
the
application
itself
came
in
incomplete
and
then
next
week
later,
payment
came
in
from
Avon
stay.
So
it
was
two
separate
I
believe
mail-ins
that
went
out
from
our
office
because
we
sent
the
payment
back
as
well,
because
the
application
was
incomplete
so
and
I
believe
and
attachment
five.
A
G
Was
yeah
so
it
does
look
like
dead
on
attachment.
Five
you'll
see
the
letter
that
we
mailed
back
to
Avant,
stay
in
Los,
Angeles
and
because
the
missing
documents,
but
also
included
in
that
letter,
it
looks
like
a
letter
directed
to
us
stating
what
was
inside
that
application.
So
from
that
point,
I
believe
it
was
mailed
in
I
dropped
off
in
person.
G
G
G
C
E
K
E
E
The
day
we're
supposed
to
go,
live
I,
get
an
email
from
the
company
saying
we
don't
have
our
permit
that
it
had
been
sent
back
a
month
before
all
this
stuff
and
I'm
like
how
does
this
happen,
I've
been
asking
if
inspections
are
coming
through
if
we're
ready
for
inspections,
I've
been
like
staying
on
top
of
this,
so
they're
like
well.
Do
you
want
to
rent
long
term
I'm
like
no?
E
This
is
our
retirement
home,
I,
wanna
and
I
want
to
live
there
like
I'm,
not
using
this
to
I,
mean
I'm
running
it
to
pay
for
the
house
so
that
we
can
have
the
house
and
the
Palm
Springs
and
like
so
like,
can
you
do
this
long
term?
I
was
like
no
I.
Don't
want
to
do
this
long
term
I
want
to
rent
this
short
term.
I
was
like
and
we're
losing
Coachella
money,
which
was
a
huge
financial
hit,
and
then
you
know,
of
course,
the
city's
backed
up.
E
B
E
What
if
we
just
run
it
short
term
without
a
permit
I'm
like
I,
don't
think
Palm
Springs
would
like
that.
That's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
purchased
this
house
in
Palm
Springs
is
because
Palm
Springs
is
permitted
and
it's
not
allowed
to
run
while
I
live
in
Los
Angeles.
We
deal
with
party
homes.
I,
don't
want
to
be
that
guy
I
don't
want
to
live
in
a
neighborhood
like
that,
especially
when
I'm
retire,
so
they're
like
no.
No
it's
fine
I
was
like.
Are
you
sure
they're
like
they're,
like
no?
E
E
E
Letter
of
the
law
states.
That
being
said,
we
have
seen
very
little
enforcement
from
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
and,
moreover,
many
cities
grants
some
leeway
if
you're
in
the
application
process
for
a
permit,
so
I
take
that
to
mean
that
in
their
experiences,
they're
quite
a
large
company
and
have
many
properties
in
Palm
Springs
that
in
their
experience
it's
like
a
step,
I
mean
look.
This
is
me
assuming
and
I
shouldn't
have
done.
That
I
should
have
called
the
city
and
asked
myself
I
completely.
E
Take
that
responsibility,
but
I
had
their
experience
and
I
figured
the
city's
also
going
to
say
the
state
of
the
law.
They're
not
gonna,
be
like
oh
yeah.
Well,
we
don't
usually
are
okay
with
it,
but
so
I
have
phone
calls
with
them.
I
have
discussions
with
them.
They
say
you
know
it's
really,
not
that
big
of
a
deal
like.
F
F
E
Okay,
go
ahead,
so
they
they
put
it
up
for
May
I,
think
it
had
been
up
like
a
week
or
two,
and
my
realtor
was
talking
who
I
purchased
the
house
from
my
realtors,
the
Los
Angeles
realtor.
He
was
talking
to
a
friend
in
Palm,
Springs
who's,
a
realtor
and
they
were
like
absolutely
not.
The
city
will
take
away
her
permit.
Take
this
that
this
total
lie.
That's
BS!
No!
E
E
Found
out
that,
no,
that,
in
fact,
is
not
the
case.
They
will
take
away
my
permit
if
they
find
this
I,
say
I,
know,
there's
a
rental
coming
up.
I,
don't
want
to
ruin
these
people's
vacation
because
it's
last
minute
let
them
rent,
even
though
I
knew
if
we
got
pulled
the
five
thousand
dollars,
if
we
had
to
even
just
find
the
five
thousand
dollars
I
was
gonna
have
to
pay
money
for
these
Runners
because
it
was
less
money
than
even
the
fine.
E
E
So
it's
do
they
pull
it.
They
say:
okay,
we'll
pull
it
from
any
future
rentals.
We
allow
the
people
who'd
already
booked
their
stay
and
I
didn't
want
to
run
it
so
fine
and
then
in
June,
I
emailed
them
again,
because
I
go
to
book
it
out
for
us
just
so.
They
know
we're
there
because
they
don't
want
somebody
walking
in
for
maintenance
or.
E
Booking
in
June-
and
you
can
see
the
email
and
I'm
like
why
is
there
a
booking
in
June?
I
specifically
said,
pull
this
unless
it's
a
30-day
rental,
it's
like
two
or
three
days,
you're
like
oh
sorry,
okay,
we'll
take
care
of
that
and
I'm
just
like
what
are
you
doing
so
so
it's
just
been
a
mess
because
of
the
company.
I
only
did
this
because
we
really
needed.
E
E
E
L
E
You
to
Patrick
and
Michael
for
dealing
with
that
too,
but
so
I
just
was
misled
and
you
know
I'm
a
grown-up
I'm,
an
adult
I
should
have
taken
more
caution
with
it,
but
the
minute
I
found
out
that
the
city
is
not
okay
with
it.
I
absolutely
told
them
to
take
it
down
and
I'm,
sorry
that
they
were
renting
to
people
that
they
didn't
check.
I'm,
sorry
that
they
a
loud
noise
there's
supposed
to
be
noise.
E
Sensors
at
the
house,
like
the
house,
is
still
supposed
to
be
done
properly,
so
I'm
upset
upset
my
neighbors
like
we
bought
the
house
because
it's
in
a
quiet
neighborhood
that
was
probably
stupid
since
we
needed
to
run
it.
But
you
know
we're
not
people
that
make
noise
either
so
I
just
feel
awful,
but
I
don't
know
it's.
E
F
A
D
E
D
E
F
A
E
No
I,
don't
believe
so
we're
in
the
process
of
also
I
I
want
to
be
careful
not
to
use
their
name
as
much
as
possible,
because
the
way
they
are
I
don't
know
how
what
they'll
do
we're
in
the
process
of
terminating
our
contract
with
them.
It's
been
I've
had
to
get
lawyers
involved
so
because
of
many
things
like
that,
you
know
finding
out
about
that
tonight.
The
noise
so
no
they're,
not
on
I,
mean
they
did
all
that
I
have
the
emails.
K
E
E
For
our
personal
protection,
we're
not
a
company,
it's
just
me
and
my
husband,
they
I
said
I
will
hand
I
have
an
email.
I
can
email
it
to
you
guys.
If
you
needed
a
follow-up.
I
said
I
will
go,
drive
it
to
Palm
Springs
myself,
because
I
need
this
to
go
back
in
January
I,
won't
hand
in
everything
had.
E
And
it
would
have
been
done
properly,
they
didn't
do
it
properly
and
then
Patrick
or
Michael
who
sent
it
and
back
to
them
and
said:
hey,
you
didn't
do
this
correctly
and
they
sat
on
it
for
a
month.
Until
the
day
we
were
supposed
to
go,
live
they
just
and
then,
if
they
have
many
properties
in
Palm,
Springs
I
assume
they
would
know
the
situation
of
the
fines
and
so
from
what
they
said.
I
assumed
you
guys
would
go
hey.
We
see
that
you're
doing.
B
E
Don't
do
it
or
here's
your
first
find
I
figured.
There
was
a
step
process,
I
shouldn't
have
assumed
and
from
what
they
discussed
with
me
from
their
professionals.
Who
run
this.
That's
how
I
took
it,
you
can
see
in
emails,
and
so
you
know,
and
then
the
minute
I
found
out
I
emailed
them
and
said,
pull
it
and
then
and
went
back
to
them
in
June
when
I
saw
they
were
still
running
it
and
said.
Why
are
you
still
running
it?
K
I
This
is
very
unfortunate.
I
mean,
obviously
the
only
mistake
you
made
was
trying
to
be
nice
and
letting
the
people
rent.
But
this
follows
squarely.
I,
don't
have
any
reason,
not
to
believe
everything
he
said,
and
this
Falls
swirly
on
the
shoulders
of
the
rental
company
and
I'd
like
to
know
who
that
is.
E
I
would
appreciate
this
because
this
is
a
public
thing
that
we
don't
say
it
because
of
my
situation
with
them
and
I.
Don't
know
if
they'll
consider
this
me
speaking
negatively
and
could
come
back
at
me
and
be
lit
to
just
I.
Don't
know,
but
it
is.
You
would
be
able
to
see
that
in
the
paperwork
that
companies
all.
A
E
A
C
G
G
E
Because
of
what
different
people
have
said,
I
mean,
even
though
this
is
under
my
name-
and
this
is
my
house
and
I
understand
that
this
is
what
happened.
Wouldn't
some
of
this
fall
under
the
agency's
name
for
filling
out
the
paperwork
too,
like
I,
don't
or
like
I?
Don't
I
guess
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
want
to
put
the
agency
up
because
then
I
don't
know
what
they're
gonna
do
with.
A
G
Yes,
of
course,
I'd
be
glad
to
so
our
vacation
rental
ordinance.
Chapter
5.25050
agency
does
go
into
detail
about
what
our
ordinance
looks
at
as
an
agency
the
funds
in
section
A.
The
very
last
sentence,
though,
does
state
that
the
failure
of
an
agent
to
comply
with
this
chapter
shall
not
relieve
the
owner
of
the
owner's
obligations
under
the
provisions
of
this
chapter.
A
G
Yes,
thank
you
board,
member
Moses,
so
I
believe
this
questions
came
up
before
regarding
the
legalities
of
an
LLC.
I
would
like
to
you
know
just
defer
that
to
our
City
attorney,
but
I
would
point
that
the
practice
from
our
office
has
been
that
in
an
LLC
people
that
we
deem
unable
to
operate
further
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
as
an
LLC
and
the
natural
persons
consisted
inside
the
LLC.
But
I
would
like
to
defer
that
to
the
City
attorney.
So.
D
A
E
This
is
like
super
unfortunate
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
her,
and
we
have
our
paperwork
and
documents
sent
to
us.
That
avant's
day
is
the
agent
we're
talking
about,
and
I
would
just
suggest
that
we
all
remember
that
name
and
I
would
be
curious
if
they
have
had
other
issues
with
the
city
or
we've
seen
this
before
in
front
of
us,
because
I
don't
recall,
but
as
far
as
the
case
is
concerned,
it's
a
total
bummer,
but
I
don't
really
see
a
way
around
this.
L
It
it's
unfortunate
we've
seen
this
happen
to
several
other
people
as
well,
and-
and
we
always
come
back
to
saying
you
have
to
be
careful
with
the
management
company
that
you
hire
because
of
exactly
what's
happening
and
I
feel
really
bad
about
this.
But
we
are
regulated
by
certain
guidelines
that
we
have
to
abide
by
and
unfortunately,
we
have
to
make
a
decision
based
on
the
information
that
we
receive.
L
I
P
A
F
A
And
it's
very
unfortunate
that
the
the
management
companies
you
know
some
are
great.
Some
are
not,
and
unfortunately,
that's
kind
of
beyond
our
purview
and
it's
been
very
clear
since
this
ordinance
that
it
the
the
penalty,
even
if
the
management
company
falls
short
of
their
responsibilities.
Unfortunately,
it's
the
home
owner
that
that
Bears
the
burden
of
their
shortcoming.
What
you
choose
to
do
with
that
you
know,
is
really
up
to
you.
D
C
A
A
F
A
A
Foreign,
thank
you.
Everybody.
It
took
a
little
short
break,
we'll
be
back
just
a
reminder.
These
meetings
are
recorded.
Our
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
appeal
of
the
administrative
decision
that
Sophie
Elizabeth
Clark
and
Gavin
megnoth
I
apologize
if
I'm
saying
that
incorrectly
are
permanently
ineligible
to
operate
a
vacation
rental
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
and
the
administrative
fine
of
five
thousand
dollars
for
operating
an
unregistered
vacation
rental
property
located
at
3044,
North
Cypress
Road
in
Palm
Springs
city
clerk.
C
H
G
Yes,
good
evening,
chair,
Vice,
chair
board
members,
City
staff
residents
on
the
call
this
evening.
My
name
is
Patrick
Clifford
with
the
Department
of
special
program
compliance
and
we
oversee
the
vacation
rental
program
here
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
before
you
this
evening
is
a
staff
report
for
the
property
located
at
3044
North
Cypress
Road.
Here
in
Palm
Springs,
it
was
found
by
staff
that
this
property
was
advertised
and
operated
as
a
short-term
vacation
rental.
G
From
the
items
listed
in
your
staff
reports
Additionally
the
code
officer
that
did
the
investigative
investigation
for
this
property
is
on
the
call
this
evening
and
I
would
ask
that
code
officer
Williams,
give
further
testimony
regarding
the
investigation
that
he
can
investigated.
Thank
you
very
much.
H
H
The
property
is
a
three
bedroom
and
that
it
was
new
to
VRBO
the
advertisement
for
the
describes,
the
property
as
allowing
six
overnight
deaths
parking
was
limited
to
three
vehicles,
and
it
also
stated
that
the
transient
occupancy
tax
was
included
in
the
nightly
accommodation
rate
and
was
hosted
by
Sophie
on
Sunday
May
29th
I
sent
a
booking
inquiry
to
the
property
host
that
reads
good
afternoon.
I
wanted
to
see
if
your
home
is
available,
June
23rd
to
28th
my
husband
and
I,
along
with
my
mom,
will
be
heading
to
Palm
Springs
for
a
wedding.
H
Please
let
me
know,
and
I
will
book
it.
Thank
you
Dave.
That's
item
6-48
in
your
agenda
packet
on
May
29th
at
2,
18
PM,
the
host
replied,
hello,
Dave,
confirming
our
Palm
Springs
home
is
available
for
the
dates
you
suggested.
I
then
replied
to
Sophie
with
hi
Sophie.
That
is
perfect.
I
will
book
it
shortly.
Is
the
pool
heat
additional
and,
if
so,
do
you
think
we
will
even
need
it
in
June?
Thank
you.
Dave
Sophie
replied
same
day.
Dave.
You
really
won't
need
the
pool
warmed.
It
is
naturally
warming
to
83
degrees.
H
At
the
moment,
the
average
outdoor
temperature
is
likely
to
be
about
105..
Spa
heating
is
included
in
your
stay
guests
generally
want
pool
heating
from
October
to
April
hope.
This
helps
Sophie
I
replied
the
same
day
to
Sophie
perfect.
Thank
you
so
much
I'll
book
it
when
I
get
home
or
I'll
book
it
shortly.
At
that
time,
I
issued
Citation
ab0389
for
operating
a
vacation
rental
without
a
vacation
rental
certificate
and
also
on
June.
1St
Sophie
did
send
a
follow-up
message
that
stated,
or
that
said
hello
Dave,
not
sure.
H
If
you
had
second
thoughts
or
a
book
elsewhere,
we've
had
another
inquiry
for
our
property
that
overlaps
with
your
preferred
dates.
We
have
held
off
letting
them
book,
as
you
were
first,
please.
Let
us
know
many
thanks.
That
concludes
my
report
and
I
am
available
for
any
questions.
The
board
may
have.
A
C
A
M
But
but
yes,
the
truth
is
we
we've
been
renting.
We
rented
out
our
house
as
locked
down
eased
from
the
end
of
last
year
from
December
solely
on
verbo
to
attract
older
Canadian
couples
and
and
Families
and
and
we've
taken
immense
pride
in
trying
to
offer
visitors
to
Palm
Springs.
You
know
a
truly
first
class
experience
and
we've
spent
I
think
this
is
reflected
in
the
reviews
which
you,
which
are
in
your
pack,
but
but
I.
M
Basically,
we
wouldn't
I.
I
was
not
aware
of
of
of
the
rules
and
regulations.
You
know
I
guess
I've
I,
we
we
just
we've,
obviously
tried
to
make
it
to
a
higher
standard.
You
can
see
that
we've
never
had
any
any
issues
with
the
city,
but
you
know
the
moment
we
received
the
notice.
You
know.
I
was
absolutely
mortified
and
and
took
down
the
listing
within
an
hour
and
reached
out
to
Patrick.
M
You
know,
ladies
and
gentlemen.
I
will
obviously
accept
whatever
decision
you
make
today,
but
I
guess
I'm
pleading
with
you
for
an
opportunity
to
to
remediate
the
situation
to
go
through
the
process.
You
know
you
can
get
a
a
you
know
a
a
a
a
ban
for
for
for
12
months
or
something,
but
you
know
and
I'm
also
willing
to
do
community
work
or
volunteer
for
the
city.
You
know
we
want
to
be
outstanding.
Citizens,
I,
don't
know
if
that's
gonna
land.
You
know
amount
of
work
at
the
moment.
M
Well,
not
really,
you
know,
I
obviously
heard
the
testimony
of
others
who,
who
you
know
we
we
didn't
apply.
We
didn't
didn't
realize
that
that
was
the
the
case
and,
and
you
know,
I
spoke
to
Sophie
when
I
saw
on
on
the
documentation
that
Mr
Williams
suggested
about
this
tot
item.
You
know,
but
I
said
to
her
what
what
is
that?
What
did
you
do
and
she
said
she
just
cut
and
paste?
A
M
M
E
Yeah
I'll
just
take
the
moment
to
tell
the
app
the
Appellate
that
we
wish
we
could
have
as
much
discretion
as
you're
asking
us
to
have.
We
don't.
Unfortunately,
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
say
well,
you're
a
top-notch.
You
know
host
in
our
city
and
someone
else
is
not
and
therefore
we're
gonna.
We
can't
do
that
like
we
have.
A
A
A
If
you
were
copying
an
ad
that
presumably
had
an
ID
number
in
it,
was
there
no
questioning
about
where
that
ID
number
what
that
is
or
where
it
comes
from
or
who
it's
required
by
or
who
provides
it
or
again,
the
as
you've
discussed
the
tot
finding
out
that
what
is
the
tot
who
collects
it?
Who
remits
it?
All
of
that
was
there
no
follow-up
on
any
of
those.
So.
M
A
M
A
A
A
E
A
A
All
right
again,
thank
you,
everyone
for
your
time
and
effort
on
this
case,
Mr,
magneth,
Magna.
Sorry,
if
you
will
be
contacted
by
the
city
in
an
official
capacity,
this
does
not
prevent
you
from
renting
on
what
the
city
defines
as
long
term,
which
is
greater
than
28
days.
It
does,
however,
prevent
you
from
renting
on
a
short-term
basis
again,
thank
you,
everyone,
Freeman
time
and
effort
on
this
case,
and
we
will
move
on
in
our
agenda.
A
D
E
E
I
mean
I
mean
you're
you're,
certainly
willing
and
I'm
welcome
to
ask
the
City
attorney
to
look
to,
like
you
know,
from
a
legal
standpoint,
but
obviously
he
will
put
llc's
together
for
a
variety
of
reasons
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
right,
we're
still
from
a
policy
perspective.
The
city
has
to
get
to
that
point
of
operators
if
they're
hiding
behind
llc's
I
mean
like
like
there's
just
these.
Are
the
owners
they're
humans
right,
so
we're
dead?
E
I
G
F
A
D
K
The
city
did
form
a
working
group
to
study
the
vacation
rental
policy.
There
was
a
in
the
Plum
Springs
post
and
a
couple
of
other
things
that
I
saw.
They
were
asking
for
applications.
They
from
I
applied,
did
not
get
accepted,
but
I
understand.
There
was
about
a
dozen
people
that
were
approved
and
maybe
Mr
Clifford
can
tell
us
about
it.
Patrick.
D
G
G
G
The
three
topics
were
that
we
identified
was
vacation,
rental
density,
vacation,
rentals
as
an
ancillary
use
to
one's
property
and
then
the
effects
on
housing
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
So
those
are
the
three
topics
that
the
group
groups
looking
to
discuss
and
you
know
possibly
bring
back
recommendations
to
review
Send
to
council
for
further
discussions.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
like
an
overview
of
of
the
work
group
that
we've
created.
E
G
Yes,
you
know
so
what
we
did
on
our
website
with
each
each
meeting
that
we
have
going
forward,
we'll
have
an
agenda
link
and
then
have
a
link
for
comments.
So
you
know
if
there
is
comments
that
you
like
to
provide.
You
know,
be
more
welcome
to
use
that
link
to
email
and
we
can
distribute
toward
the
word
group
as
well,
but
yeah
that
that
link
is
on
our
website
currently
as
well.
It
all
goes
to
the
same
inbox.
G
You
know
from
my
understanding,
you
know,
there's
questions
whether
the
meetings
were
subjects
like
brown
act
from
my
understanding
from
the
city
manager
and
team
that
they're
not
subject
to
the
brown
act.
So
as
far
as
like
a
public
meeting
I
guess,
you
could
say
that
it's
required
notice,
where
you
know
notice
and
Jen,
is
posted
out
x,
amount
of
days
prior
they're,
not,
but
by
all
means
we're
not
also
just
denying
people
access
to
to
enter
the
room
to
listen
to
discussion
now.
G
A
And
I
guess
that's
what
I
was
getting
at
if
there
was
a
public
comment
that
would
be
a
great
place
for
what
Vice
chair
Kane
is
talking
about.
I
will
tell
you
that
Mr
Hedrick
and
I
have
probably
two
years
ago.
Maybe
three
were
part
of
a
work
group
and
we
came
up
with
a
number
of
recommendations
to
the
city
council.
A
F
A
C
B
Hi
there
I
just
wanted
to
chime
in
that
v-ron
is
currently
putting
together
a
list.
I
mean
we
know
the
work
group's
happening.
A
couple
of
our
board
members
are
in
the
work
group,
but
vron
is
currently
putting
together
a
list
of
cleanup
items
for
the
vacation,
rental,
ordinance
and
suggestions
and
top
of
the
list
is
that
agencies
would
have
some
or
agencies
or
management.
Companies
would
have
some
kind
of
ownership
when
they're
100
at
fault
with
like
what
happened
tonight.
D
D
P
F
A
P
F
P
I
Know
we
belong
today,
but
I
have
one
little
thing
that
I
want
to
to
bring
up
and
I
don't
want
to
embarrass
Patrick,
but
back
in
November
we
had
a
decision
on
the
house
catim
office
to
our
house
and
since
that
decision,
where
they
can't
rent,
it's
been
I,
guess
eight
months
now
or
nine
months
and
all
I've
been
about
six
or
eight
weekends.
It's
been
rented.
L
I
G
G
Yeah,
of
course,
and
I
understand,
concern
too
I
do
I,
do
have
good
news,
I
guess
you
could
say
as
far
as
update
that,
so
we
did
I
asked
that
to
our
City
attorney,
they
did
file
criminal
charges
and
they
have
a
court
date,
so
that
is
in
process
right
now.
In
fact,
that
was
communicated
too.
There
was
another
neighbor
in
the
neighborhood
too,
that
was
kind
of
being
in
an
email
chain
between
themselves
and
the
City
attorney.
I
G
G
P
I,
don't
have
anything
to
add.
I
can
look
into
further
Mr
Moses's
question
and
I'm.
Also
I
am
not
involved
in
that
prosecution.
So
I'm
not
sure
what
that
complaint
said
as
far
as
the
penalties
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
being
prosecuted
as
a
misdemeanor,
probably
that's
the
case,
but
I
I'm,
not
sure
about
that.