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Regular City Council Meeting 11-18-2020
F
H
E
I
C
J
K
Thank
you
mayor.
May
I
just
say
thank
you.
I've
been
a
part
of
this
community
since
the
mid-1970s,
and
it
is
such
a
thrill
to
be
a
part
of
an
amazing
community.
So
thank
you.
Public
servants.
Let's
pray
father.
We
thank
you
for
your
profound
grateful,
love
and
care,
and
we
access
you
this
morning
to
ask
for
you
to
hear
our
prayers
today
in
the
midst
of
all
of
the
unrest
in
this
country.
K
We
thank
you
for
the
certainty
and
the
sureness
of
your
strength,
your
love
and
your
peace.
We
are
asking
for
unity
in
this
nation
for
wisdom
for
this
council,
as
they
oversee
the
business
of
this
city
and
for
your
guidance
as
we
each
strive
to
love
our
neighbor,
as
you
have
instructed
us
to
do
to
walk
in
peace
with
our
fellow
mankind,
we
ask
for
your
continued
blessing
on
the
united
states
of
america
and
those
that
serve
to
protect
and
secure
our
freedom.
K
C
Dr
pepe
from
the
charlotte
county
health
department
will
be
joining
us
shortly
to
give
a
short
update
on
the
covid19
situation
in
the
county,
but
he
had
a
conference
call
first
at
nine
o'clock,
so
he
will
join
us
when
he
can,
and
we
normally
at
this
point
in
time
would
have
citizen
comments.
Are
there
any
comments
that
need
to
be
read
into
the
record?
There.
C
C
Anyone
in
the
audience
wish
to
speak
to
the
council.
You
have
three
minutes
last
call:
okay,
hearing
none,
we
will
go
ahead
and
move
on
and
first
item
of
business
is
I'm
very
honored
and
privileged
to
be
able
to
give
a
proclamation
which
we
haven't
been
able
to
do
for
quite
some
time
and,
as
is
typical
with
this
proclamation
that
we
do
annually,
we
get
very
animated
with
it.
So
we'll
ask
for
everybody
to
jump
right
in
as
I'm
reading
the
proclamation.
C
Let's
try
that
again
on
the
count
of
three
one:
two:
three,
that's
better,
whereas
the
ponce
de
leon
conquistadors
have
since
visited
palencia
spain,
a
major
city
nearby
to
center
santa
vasta
campos,
the
place
where
juan
ponce
de
leon
was
born
and
san
juan
puerto
rico,
where
he
served
as
governor
not
only
of
puerto
rico
but
land.
He
named
la
florida,
thereby
strengthening
the
ties
between
punta
gorda
and
its
sister
cities.
C
Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
does
hereby
proclaim
november
28
2020
as
juan
ponce
de
leon
conquistador
day,
hey
paston,
duly
adopted
this
18th
day
of
november
2020
signed
lynn,
matthews
mayor
and
accepting
where
the
bees
at
some
members
are
the
conquistadors.
So
if
you
please
come
forward.
M
We
want
to
thank
you
on
behalf
of
conquistadors.
We
want
to
thank
you
for
the
proclamation
and
it's
it's
again
we're
first
again
today
it
seems
coming
back
to
doing
proclamations
again
and
first
on
the
agenda
today,
but
anyway
we
are
having
a
belated
20,
20
landing,
which
we
normally
have
in
april
of
the
year,
we're
having
it
this
month
on
november
28th
at
four
points
hotel,
and
we
invite
the
public
to
attend
and
mayor.
M
C
Okay,
so
the
next
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
introduction
of
border
committee
members.
If
you
have
submitted
your
resume
to
be
a
board
or
committee
member,
you
can
come
to
the
podium
and
introduce
yourself
if
you
would
like
to.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
do
that,
seeing
none
we'll
move
into
our
regular
agenda?
C
I
Thank
you
mayor.
The
first
item
is
ga-12-2020,
which
is
the
first
reading
of
an
ordinance
that
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
amending
the
point
of
order
code,
chapter
9,
public
nuisances,
article
roman
numeral,
2,
mandatory
lot
mulling
program,
section
9-7,
the
program
by
adding
a
new
subsection
s
requiring
vacant,
lots
to
be
free
of
debris
and
in
serviceable
condition,
providing
for
conflict
and
severability
and
providing
an
effective
date.
N
N
O
L
Lisa
before
you
start,
if
I
could,
we
know
there
may
be
some
discussion
on
this
ordinance
itself,
which
is
fine,
it
doesn't
have
to
move
forward
or
it
can
whatever
your
preference
is,
but
we
did
have
it
advertised
as
a
public
hearing.
So
we
wanted
to
proceed.
So
if
there
was
any
public
comment,
it
was
advertised
that
way
and
then
we
can
take
it
from
there
and
your
choice.
What
we
do
obviously.
P
Thank
you.
This
actually
gives
us
the
language
in
the
code
to
address
the
unserviceable
lots.
It's
it's
meant
for
vacant
lots
only
currently,
we
would
have
to
site
under
exposed
soils
for
the
ruts
and,
as
you
can
see,
some
of
them
aren't
exposed
soils
on
the
picture
to
the
right
when
it
comes
to
rutting.
So
then
we
have
no
language
in
the
code
to
address
the
ruts,
and
this
could
preclude
the
lot
mowing
contractor
from
accessing
the
slot
doing
damage
to
their
property.
P
B
I
I
think
we
need
to
have
talked
this
out.
I
understand
it's
an
issue
and-
and
I
understand
the
issue
of
the
debris-
that's
you
know
to
me.
It's
a
different
issue
than
the
rut
issue
and
I
realize
you
know
we
only
have
one
company,
that
is
by
by
code,
required
to
remediate
the
property
when
it's
been
used
and
that's
for
the
canal
maintenance.
B
So
I
understand
it's
a
public
hearing,
and
so
we
will
need
to
to
go
forward
with
that,
but
I
think
we
need
to
discuss
this
whole
lot
and
I
understand
it's
an
issue.
I
just
I'd
like
to
do
something
that
would
help
in
this
program
whether
it's
there's
a
way.
We
incorporate
something
into
the
line,
the
lot
mowing
program
or
whatever
it
might
be,
so
that
we
don't
feel
like
we're
telling
those
people
that
are
going
to
be
moving
here,
that
they're
moving
into
an
unfriendly
environment.
C
P
P
P
P
Again,
it's
not
that
many,
but
with
more
building
going
on
and
and
more
rain
that
we've
had
this
year
and
again,
the
city
spent
a
lot
of
money
on
drainage
improvements,
so
we're
trying
to
help
with
that
to
make
sure
it
gets
done
properly
when
they
get
restored,
they
they
have
to
do
line
and
grades
to
make
sure
the
drainage
is,
is
done
properly
and
the
city
spent
a
lot
of
money
on
drainage
improvements
throughout
the
city.
So
we're
trying
to
help
with
that
as
well.
P
P
C
C
C
I
have
some
comments
about
this.
I
have
personally,
I've
got
two
vacant
lots
across
the
street
from
my
house
and
one
next
door
to
me,
and
I
can
tell
you
on
a
daily
basis
that
the
contractors
are
abusing
this
beyond
belief,
and
I
will
also
say
that
the
lot
mowers
have
themselves
made
a
lot
of
ruts
in
the
grass
on
the
other
side
of
the
street.
From
this
there
are
especially
when
it's
raining.
Last
week
there
was
a
truck
that
came
through
and
decided.
C
He
didn't
want
to
go
down
to
the
cul-de-sac
to
turn
around,
so
he
spun
around
in
the
two
vacant
lots
and
he
dragged
mud
and
dirt
and
grass
all
over
the
street,
and
it
was
left
there
and
there's
nobody.
That's
going
to
go
out
there
and
clean
that
up.
I'm
not
doing
that
and
there's
no
way
for
the
property
owner
to
know
that,
because
the
property
owner
lives
in
pennsylvania
or
someplace.
C
So
I
don't
think
it's
fair
of
us
to
to
put
such
a
heavy-handed
ordinance
in
place
at
this
point
in
time.
I
think
we
need
to
do
something
a
little
less
rigorous
and
for
those
rare
circumstances
where
we
have
the
the
piles
of
trees
sitting
there
like
that,
we
need
to
find
out
who
put
them
there
and
address
it
through
that
owner
of
whoever
did
that,
because
I
don't
know
if
this
was
the
property
owner
that
took
the
tree
down
on
their
own
property
or
if
a
neighboring
property
put
the
debris
there.
C
P
P
C
B
Yeah,
I
think,
as
lisa
has
pointed
out
to
us,
that
the
the
picture
on
the
right
is
is
a
much
different
situation
than
the
picture
on
the
left,
as
as
we
have
discussed
that
these
ruts
are
caused
by
a
multitude
of
reasons
and
and
the
homeowners,
no
matter
whether
they
could
live
in.
You
know
anywhere
around
the
world,
they're
not
going
to
know
unless
they've
got
some.
You
know
some
kind
of
a
satellite
image
that
they
can
see.
B
You
know,
but
you
know
we
have
situations
where,
with
canal
maintenance,
if
you
have
depressions
that
you
know
canal
maintenance
comes
out
and
fills
those
depressions
because
we're
paying
a
fee
every
year
for
our
canal,
maintenance
and,
and
so
it's
for
the
protection
of
the
sea
wall
system.
I
don't
know
if
there's
some
way
that
you
know
we
have
something
that
we
do.
That's
a
part
of
the
lot,
knowing
program
that
it's
included
as
part
of
the
fee.
C
A
A
Q
You
know
I
understand
that
it's
a
problem,
but
on
the
other
hand,
I
just
don't
think
it
just
feels
really
heavy-handed
to
me.
So
when
you
guys
were
discussing
this,
did
you
was
it
an
option
to
go
longer
like
more
than
five
days
or
to
have?
I
don't?
I
don't
know
what
all
things
you
put
in
because
we
weren't
you
know
in
step
with
this
as
you
did
it,
but
what
else
did
you
think
about
doing
before
you
went
all
the
way
to
an
ordinance.
N
N
We
could
do
things
like
that
when
this
first
came
about
kind
of
how
it
started
with
staff.
Is
this
section
of
the
code
was
in
a
different
chapter
and
at
one
point
the
chapter
got
moved
from.
I
think
it
was
10
to
9..
It
was
kind
of
a
rewrite
and
we
had
a
case
way
back
that
had
similar
language
to
this,
where
we
were
citing
a
property
owner
and
we
suspected
when
the
chapter
got
changed
that
this
information
was
omitted.
N
Q
N
N
One
concern
staff
might
have
is,
if
you
start
repairing
right-of-ways
for
those
who
are
in
the
lot
mowing
program
because
you're
collecting
it
as
part
of
a
fee.
We
have
a
lot
of
vacant,
lots
they're,
not
in
the
lot
mowing
program,
and
I
don't
know
what
the
community
expectation
would
be
for
us
to
start
repairing
their
lots,
because
it's
like
you
said
the
cause
is
probably
not
the
property
owner
in
both
situations.
So
we'd
have
to
deal
with
those
who
are
not
in
the
lot
mowing
program
wanting
their
right-of-ways
repair.
L
O
L
If,
if
there
was
a
person
in
a
another
state-
and
even
if
you
just
notify
them
that
their
loss
and
disrepair
needs
to
be
serviced,
if
they
did
not
cause
the
problem,
do
you
then
charge
them
to
fix
the
problem
because
it
wasn't
their
fault
and
if
you
don't
charge
them
to
fix
the
problem,
it's
difficult
to
charge
everyone
to
service
slots
that
someone
else
calls
the
problem.
Also,
you
know
as
far
as
the
community
as
a
whole,
so
that's
kind
of
what
I
think
everyone's
running
up
against
you.
O
L
How
do
we
get
this
fixed
and
not
penalize
the
ones
that
shouldn't
be
penalized
but
try
to
have
some
enforcement
mechanism
to
make
the
ones
that
did
cause
the
problem
fix
it
or
in
the
absence
of
any
proof
of
who
did
what?
How
do
we
fix
it
so
that
the
lots
can
still
be
serviced
if
it
was
at
no
fault
of
the
property
and
those
these
are
the
kind
of
things
that
need
discussed.
O
L
Q
I
have
a
question
this.
You
know
I
am
not
a
finance
person,
but
would
fixing
these
be
something
that
could
come
out
of
impact
fees.
That,
like
say
the
builder
pays
when
he's
building
a
home.
He
puts
a
little
aside
for
the
whole
community
to
use,
as
you
know,
just
at
their
discretion
to
fix
this
kind
of
a
thing,
because
I
bet
you
would
find
that
95
of
these
are
the
guys
who
are
you'd
see
that
the
pool
people
are
the
builders.
C
Well,
the
lawn
contractors
too,
the
lawn
contractors
are
horrible
about
this.
They
are
constantly
turning
around
across
the
street.
From
me,
I
mean
constantly
every
single
day,
there's
probably
12
of
them
at
least,
and
they
come
down
the
street
barreling
down
the
street
and
then
they
tear
into
the
parking
lot.
It's
not.
C
They
think
it's
a
parking
lot,
they
tear
into
the
lot
and
they
they
spin
around
and
come
out
the
other
side
on
the
on
the
second
lot,
which
is
adjacent,
and
then
they
come
out
on
the
street
and
they
bottom
out
and
then
there's
dirt
and
mud
and
grass
and
everything
all
over
the
street.
It
happens
every
single
day
and
I
just
don't
think
it's
fair
to
us
to
go
and
penalize
the
people
who
own
those
lots.
B
Unfortunately,
we
knew
who
it
was,
and
I
called
them
and
they
came
out
and
they
fixed
it,
but
you
know
that's
and
they
were
happy
to
it's
just
yeah.
I
understand
what
staff
is
asking
us
for.
I
totally
do
it's
just
I
have
I'm
really,
as
you
all
have
expressed
it.
Just
doesn't
seem
fair
to
that
that
homeowner,
that
property
owner,
I
should
say
who
is
who
knows
where
they
are
and
have
no
idea.
This
is
happening
right.
B
I
I
Grass
to
grow
that
high
on
the
lots
that
are
maintained
by
the
city,
so
we
make
it.
You
know
it's
very
important
for
the
city
to
make
sure
that
those
lots
that
are
on
the
lot
mowing
program
are
mowed
as
often
as
necessary
to
avoid
that
problem
in
between
the
scenarios
of
the
ruts
and
and
the
scenarios
of
those
large
stumps
and
stuff
we've
had
situations
where
there's
rubble,
you
know
a
vacant
lot
it
either.
I
It
was
previously
developed
and
there
was
property
was
demolished,
so
it
can
be
resold
or
just
accumulates
stuff
from
the
neighborhood.
But
if
there's,
if
there's,
if
there's
debris
rubble,
what
have
you
on
the
lot?
Our
lot
mowing
program
won't
go
on
that
lot
because
it
could
damage
their
equipment.
Q
I
Lot
mowing
program
as
vacant
lots
or
just
lots
that
are
developed
that
need
to
be
mowed.
There
needs
to
be
some
some
degree
of
consistency
and
with
respect
to
the
lots
that
are
on
the
lot
mowing
program,
we
have
to
have
some
sort
of
handle
to
make
sure
that
the
lots
can
be
mowed
to
the
extent
that
we
require
all
the
other
lots
to
be
mowed
and
the
only
handle
that
we
have
is
that
in
all
lots
vacant
on
the
program
not
on
the
program
developed.
What
have
you
it's
ultimately?
I
But
unless
the
city
was
to
make
a
determination
that
we
will
be
the
funder
of
rectifying
all
the
pro
problems
that
vacant
or
absentee
owners
may
face,
then
the
only
other
choice
we
have
is
to
put
the
burden
back
on
the
property
owner
now.
I
agree.
Five
days
may
be
an
awfully
short
period
of
time,
and
so
you
know
we
have
when
an
ordinance
is
drafted.
I
We
have
to
put
a
number
in
there
for
your
consideration
and
if
it's
too
short,
then
the
ordinance
can
be
modified
to
increase
that,
but
also
understand
and
and
five
days,
maybe
kind
of
short.
I
think
the
the
reason
why
it
was
a
shorter
period
of
time
than
a
longer
period
of
time
is
because
the
longer
you
wait
or
give
the
property
owner
the
opportunity
to
clear
up
the
property,
the
longer
it's
going
to
take
for
the
mowing
contractors
to
go
in
there
and
the
grass
is
going
to
become.
I
And
certainly
you're
going
to
hear
from
the
neighbors
about
about
that
and
also
understand
as
well
in
the
code
enforcement
process,
and
I
think
you
do
understand
that
so
this
is
for
the
benefit
of
the
public.
That's
listening
under
this
ordinance
and
other
ordinances.
When
there's
a
violation,
we
give
them
a
notice
of
the
violation
and
a
certain
period
of
time
to
correct
so
so,
for
example,
this
says
that
the
property
owner
should
correct
the
problem
within
five
days
of
receipt
of
written
notice.
I
If
they
don't
correct
it,
within
five
days
of
written
notice,
we'll
go
out
there
and
reinspect
the
property
and
determine
that
the
violation
hasn't
been
corrected.
They
don't
get
immediately
fined.
The
matter
will
go
before
the
code
enforcement
board
after
they're,
given
notice
of
that
hearing,
and
it's
and
it's
only
after
the
code
enforcement
board
determines
that
there
was
no
valid
defense
for
their
failure
to
come
to
compliance
that
the
code
enforcement
board
will
set
another
deadline
and
the
failure
to
comply
with
that
other
deadline
would
then
result
in
a
fine.
I
So
if
we
were
to,
if
we
were
to
enlarge
the
time
of
compliance
from
five
days
to
some
other
period
of
time
that
you
were
more
comfortable
with
that,
that
helps
us
put
the
property
owner
on
notice,
there's
a
problem
with
their
property
and
that
they
need
to
come
in.
They
need
to
rectify
that
problem,
and
hopefully
they'll
do
so
within
that
period
of
time
that
they're,
given,
if
they're
not
able
to
come
down
and
do
it.
I
H
I
O
I
On
theoretically
private
property,
which
it
has
the
right
to
do,
but
that
would
require
a
greater
expense
on
behalf
of
the
taxpayers
as
a
whole.
So
a
decision
was
made
by
by
city
council
a
while
back
that,
rather
than
have
the
city
as
a
whole,
be
responsible
for
things
that
happen
in
the
right-of-way
in
front
of
private
property.
I
O
I
The
area
of
the
right-of-way
in
front
of
somebody's
house
and
those
ruts
start
collecting
water,
which
that
becomes
like
a
mosquito
problem.
You
know
we
probably
could
go
out
there
and
under
the
code
enforcement
and
require
the
property
owner
to
do
something
to
with
those
ruts
to
eliminate
that
problem.
I
So
there's
there's
different
ways
that
this
can
be
handled.
This
seemed
to
be
at
the
time
the
more
direct
way
to
deal
with
a
problem
that
our
lot
mowing
program
contractors
are
experiencing.
We're
certainly
happy
to
go.
Go
back
to
the
books.
You
know
go
back
to
this
drawing
board
and
and
come
up
with
a
different
solution,
and
maybe
this
would
be
the
best
opportunity
to
at
least
have
some
direction
in
that
way
or
you
can,
if
you
feel
like
the
five
days
is
way
too
short.
I
C
B
I
I
would
like
to
suggest
that
we
consider
asking
staff
to
take
a
look
at
this
and
say
if
this
is
a
pervasive
issue
in
the
lots
that
are
part
of
the
line
program
that
we
determine.
How
could
we
provide
for
remedying
this
as
a
part
of
the
program
and
if
we
have
to
increase
the
fee
to
include
that
it
may
end?
At
the
same
time,
we
can
then
discuss
having
an
ordinance
that
says
lot.
B
And
I
know
that
we
may
be
opening
up
a
can
of
worms,
because
we,
you
know-
and
maybe
at
the
same
time.
You
know
there
could
be
some
education
on
the
part
of
contractors
and
things
like
that.
But
to
try
to
come
up
with
some
method
of
addressing
it.
Rather
than
just
arbitrarily
coming
up
and
and
trying
to
amend
this
today,
I
I
think
that
it
would
be
better
for
us
to
go
back
to
the
drawing
board.
I
agree.
H
G
Kind
of
like
the
idea,
although
it's
probably
complicated
to
increase
the
price
of
the
lot
mowing
program
to
cover
such
things
or
another
way
to
say,
is:
if
you
notify
people
that
there's
an
issue
here,
you
have
a
methodology
built
up
or
already
set
up
that
says.
Okay,
I
can
clean
that
up
for
you,
for
you
know,
100
or
something
yeah.
If
you
want
to
take
our
have
us,
do
it
kind
of
thing.
C
I
think
the
other
thing
that
could
end
up
happening
and
backfiring
on
us
is,
if
we
do
this
ordinance
you're
going
to
see
a
plethora
of
signs
being
put
up
on
these
vacant.
Lots,
no
trespassing
and
what
we
don't
want
is
sign
blight.
I
mean
that's
exactly
what
we've
tried
to
avoid
all
the
last
15
or
20
years
of
all
the
councils
that
have
sat
before
us
and-
and
I
think
that
you'd
find
that
that
kind
of
thing
would
end
up
happening
so
that
people's
lots
don't
get
torn
up
from
the
various
contractors.
C
C
So
you
know,
thankfully,
that
the
new
company
is
now
using
the
smaller
mowers,
which
makes
a
lot
more
sense,
and
it's
not
quite
as
bad
as
it
was,
but
when
they
had
those
huge
mowers,
we
were
getting
huge
ruts
everywhere,
especially
during
the
heavy
part
of
rainy
season.
So
I
I
think
we
need
to
go
back
and
and
work
on
this
some
more
before
we
we
approve
it.
That's
my
personal
opinion.
C
Q
P
In
I
don't
know
that
there
is
specific
language
that,
because
it's
a
vacant
lot,
it's
built
on
your
taxes,
I
don't
believe
there's
any
specific
language.
It's
implied,
okay,
okay,
but
I
don't
believe,
there's
any
specific
language
that
goes
out
yeah,
because
we
don't
send
anything
out.
It's
built
on
the
taxes
now,
so
we
don't
have
any
correspondence
right.
I
I
Unlike
council
members,
pravdkay's
suggestion
that
maybe
there'd
be
more
money
added
into
the
the
lot
mowing
program
fee
to
pay
extra
to
the
contractor
to
remove
whatever
was
there
you
know
to
that
would
affect
their
ability
to
mow
or
mow
with
weed
whackers
in
that
area,
but
that's
going
to
have
some
ripple
effects.
Obviously
it's
going
to
affect
the
contract
that
currently
we
currently
have.
I
You
might
need
to
consider
what
the
amount
of
that
fee
would
be
necessary
to
be
and
whether
that
would
then
make
a
disincentive
for
people
to
be
part
of
the
lot
mowing
program.
So
it's
a
long
about
way
of
saying:
let's
go
ahead
and
vote
this
down
to
have
staff
kind
of
take
another
look
at
it
and
see
what
options
are
available,
bring
it
back
to
you
for
a
discussion
before
we
draft
another
ordinance.
C
B
A
C
O
R
I
apologize
that
the
the
dashboard
that
I
used
to
drill
down
into
the
specific
zip
code,
for
whatever
reason
hates
me
this
morning
and
will
not
let
me
get
in
so
if
you
need
that
specific
date,
I'll
be
I'll,
certainly
share
that
with
chief
and
he
can
pass
that
along
after
whatever
detail.
You
need
I'll
certainly
share
that
with
you,
but
you
can
see
in
the
bottom
right
just
look
at
the
daily
cases.
You
can
see
the
significant
climb
when
we
look
at
florida
and
charlotte
county.
R
The
same
thing
is
happening
and
you
can
see
in
the
the
right
side
of
the
screen.
There's
been
some
fairly
significant
spikes.
The
other
day
we
hit
10
000
cases
in
one
day.
Some
of
that
is
lab
reports
coming
out.
Some
of
that
is
just
significant
testing
in
long-term
care
facilities
across
the
state.
Things
like
that
so,
but
in
general,
the
number
of
cases
per
day
have
increased,
we're
averaging
anywhere
in
the
upper
30s
to
mid
40s.
R
Last
week
we
had
over
50
cases
on
one
day,
and
you
know
today.
I
believe
the
number
is
going
to
be
42
for
yesterday
that's
going
to
reflect
in
the
dashboard,
so
it's
definitely
increasing.
There's
a
couple
of
things
that
are
driving
that
and
I'll
I'll
share.
Some
of
that,
as
we
get
further
into
the
presentation,
but
median
age
is
still
holding
right
at
56.
It's
been
that
way
for
several
weeks.
R
Now,
if
you
were
to
ask
me
who
is
the
population
that
is
testing
positive
for
covert
right
now,
it
is
the
55
year
olds
to
74
year
olds,
those
those
folks
that
are
be
careful-
those
folks
that
are
out
and
about
in
the
community
and
socializing
things
like
that,
and
that's
that's
kind
of
where
we're
seeing
a
fairly
significant
spread
in
that
age.
Category
right
now,
I'll
share
with
you
long-term
care
facilities.
R
We
did
see
an
uptick,
but
we've
been
able
to
kind
of
get
that
under
control
again
and
our
pediatric
cases
are
slowly
increasing,
as
as
a
reflection
of
household
spread.
Things
like
that,
so
we're
definitely
seeing
more
kids,
it's
not
exploding,
but
we're
definitely
seeing
more
kids,
so
I'll
pause
there.
If
you
have
any
questions,
then
I'll
dive
into
the
other
detailed
stuff.
R
When
you
look
at
it
for
the
last
six
months,
you
still
are
seeing
the
45
to
74
year
olds
is
half
the
cases
which
aligns
with
our
demographics
in
our
county,
but
but
that
55
to
64
was
the
last
seven
days.
So
that's
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
show
you
over
here.
I
apologize
it's
a
little
tricky
to
watch,
but
in
general
what
we're
seeing
also
is
the
pediatric
cases.
We
have
seen
an
increase
and
I'll
go
to
that
and
then
share
with
you.
R
So
you
can
see
the
largest
age
category
is
18
year
olds,
but
followed
by
17
year
olds,
and
then
you
have
some
slices
of
younger
folks
in
here,
but
really
high
school
aged
and
the
reason
for
that
is
they're.
They
tend
to
be
more
mobile.
They
have
more
after
school
activities
socializing.
They
also
work
things
like
that.
So
there's
a
little
more
mobility
versus
an
elementary
school
child,
and
so
that's
what
we're
seeing
is
we're
seeing
an
upward
tick
in
that
category.
R
If
you
look
at
the
numbers
on
the
right,
if
you
look
at
the
pediatric
cases
by
month,
right
now
we're
at
40
pediatric
cases
when
you
look
at
it
from
the
perspective
of
we
are
now
at
the
18th
of
the
month.
That
means
we
have
some
more
time.
So
that
means
we're
right
now
on
on
par,
to
exceed
last
month's
numbers
from
pediatric
cases.
R
When
we
look
at
school-age
cases,
it
follows
exactly
the
same
pattern,
so
we're
projected
to
be
close
to
70
cases.
If
we,
if
we
double
it,
let's
say
we
end
up
somewhere
around
60.,
so
we're
really
looking
at
an
uptick
now.
Some
concerns
that
I
have
and
we've
been
really
focusing
on
the
messaging
is
we're
coming
into
holiday
season
with
thanksgiving
christmas,
new
year's
as
well
as
all
of
the
other
holidays,
and-
and
you
know,
hanukkah-
and
things
like
that.
So
then
we
have.
R
In
addition
to
that,
we
have
shopping,
which
you
know
a
lot
of
folks
are
going
to
do
online,
but
they're
also
going
to
go
to
the
retail
stores
for
black
friday.
My
family
has
already
had
their
plan
in
line
for
for
quite
some
time
now,
and
I've
been
told
that
I'm
going
to
be
the
driver.
So
so
having
said
that,
the
messaging
really
is:
how
do
we
help
our
community?
R
Do
these
things
and
celebrate
the
holidays,
because
it's
been
a
tough
year,
but
do
it
safely
so
that
we
can
move
forward
and
also
help
our
local
businesses
realize
the
revenue
that
they
need
in
fourth
quarter
to
stay
successful
and
keep
their
doors
open.
So
that's
really
what
we've
been
focusing
on
a
lot
right
now
and
and
so
it's
been
been
a
challenge
in
our
hospital
status.
We've
seen,
we've
seen
an
uptick
as
well.
It
mirrors,
basically
what
you've
been
hearing
that
I've
been
saying
so
far.
R
R
But
we
did
some
interventions
with
infection,
control
visits
and
working
with
them
and-
and
you
can
see
that
that
was
a
fairly
drastic
correction
as
well
as
the
overall
surveillance.
That's
happening.
Long-Term
care
facilities
have
the
ability
to
do
more
testing
and
rapid
response,
and
things
like
that,
so
that's
really
helping
and
then
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
share
with.
You
is
something
that
we've
been
looking
at
for
quite
some
time
now.
R
R
So
that's
where
we're
working
now
and
our
team
continues
to
do
all
of
their
contact
tracing.
We
continued
and
extended
our
funding
through
june
of
next
year.
So
we
have
some
funding.
That's
going
to
support
those
efforts
as
well,
so
we're
still
in
a
posture
where
we
can
support
these
efforts,
we're
still
focusing
on
the
therapeutics.
R
You
know
the
rem
deserver.
I
talked
about
before,
but
there's
also
a
new
monoclonal
antibody
that
was
just
released
and
approved
for
covet
treatment,
and
so
that's
showing
some
promise
as
well
and
then,
most
importantly
and
it's,
the
question
everybody's
asking
is:
when
is
the
vaccine
coming
and
so
the
vaccine?
R
Looking
at
into
next
year,
there's
a
couple
of
vaccines
that
are
showing
promise.
The
challenge
that
we
have
is
one
of
the
vaccines
has
a
very
extreme
cold
storage
requirement,
minus
90
degree
fahrenheit.
So
when
we
look
at
that,
the
limitations
on
our
capabilities
of
being
able
to
store
that,
so
we've
been
looking
at
different
models,
how
we
can
store
them
regionally
and
then
distribute
and
thought
it
out
and
then
administer
that
way.
So
we
have
some
strategies
in
place.
R
So
I
don't
think
that's
going
to
be
an
obstacle
and
then
the
other
vaccine
doesn't
require
as
much
of
a
cold
storage
so
we'll
whatever
we
get
we'll
make
it
work
and
and
get
it
out
there
as
quickly
as
possible.
We've
had
conversations
with
our
hospitals,
our
long-term
care
facilities,
our
pharmacies,
our
responders
and
they're
all
poised
and
ready
to
support
those
efforts,
and
we
think
that
we'll
have
enough
distribution
channels,
including
supporting
schools,
to
make
sure
that
we
can
get
the
vaccine
out
as
quickly
as
we
can
to
the
community.
A
R
So
we're
seeing
more
hospitalizations,
but
that's
a
function
of
the
volume
increase
of
of
of
cases.
What
we
are
seeing
is
survival
rates
are
better,
I
think,
because
of
the
therapeutics
we-
and
it
really
varies
based
on
on
the
person,
so
we've
seen
people
in
their
30s
and
40s
hospitalized
in
intensive
care.
But
quite
honestly,
majority
of
the
folks
are
probably
two-thirds
of
the
people
that
end
up
in
icu
are
probably
over
the
age
of
65.
R
There
so
we
we
just
completed
our
survey
with
all
of
the
hospitals
and
that
went
up
to
state
emergency
management
so
that
we
can
have
our
supply
chain
logistics
in
place
and
an
ordering
process.
So
what
will
happen?
Is
the
convalescent
plasma
as
well
as
the
the
rem
desi
beer
are
available.
Now
it's
the
it's,
the
the
new
ben
milam
yuvab.
R
Sorry,
I
murdered
that
name
every
time
I
try
and
say
it
is
being
distributed
now
and,
and
we
expect
that
there'll
be
a
protocol
to
push
that
out
to
the
hospitals
and
and
clinics
right
now.
The
indications
for
that
therapeutic
is
for
folks.
That
may
not
be
necessarily
hospitalized,
but
you
know
guidance
is
changing
frequently
on
all
of
that
stuff.
Yes,.
Q
R
R
What
I
can
tell
you
is
that
you
know
the
cdc
and
other
folks
are
recommending
that
if
we
follow
that
guidance,
that's
been
out
there
from
the
beginning,
it
will
slow
the
spread.
The
challenge
that
we
have
is
you
know
we
we
have
several
larger
events
coming
up,
but
the
fear
I
have
is
that,
because
of
covet
fatigue,
folks
will
just
kind
of
ignore
that
and
say
you
know
what
I'm
just
over
it.
If
I
get
it,
I
get
it,
and
you
know
I've
had
family
members.
R
Tell
that
to
me,
and-
and
I
understand
that,
but
but
I
guess
the
the
message
and
the
pleading
that
I
can
say
to
our
community
right
now-
is
we're
still
in
the
middle
of
this
thing.
If
you
can
just
hang
on
a
little
bit
longer
so
that
we
can
start
getting
this
vaccine
out
and
other
medical
interventions,
it
will
help
us
all
immensely
right
now.
R
I
have
not
heard
of
any
forthcoming
mandates
that
are
in
queue
and
planned
or
anything
like
that,
but
I
think
I
think
from
our
perspective,
the
the
local
response
really
makes
the
difference,
rather
than
from
a
federal
or
state
level
it's
just
getting
buy
in
and
and
and
that's
why
we
do.
The
meetings
like
we're
doing
now.
O
D
Q
S
O
Q
O
R
Can
I
do
that
safely?
Can
I
go
to
walmart
safely?
Can
I
go
to
the
small
store
safely
and
things
like
that,
and
I
think
that's
where
all
this
education
and
we've
been
pushing
out
information
on
just
signage
and
things
like
that
to
help
businesses
we've
held
several
webinars
to
where
we
can
train
businesses
on
on
best
practices,
and
things
like
that.
So
I
think
I
think
our
retailers
and
employers
are
really
poised
to
make
the
difference.
R
In
this
whole
thing
and-
and
I
think
they've
learned
early
on
too-
that
if
they
can
create
a
safe
environment,
more
customers
will
come
there.
So
I
think
that
piece
is
working.
The
piece
that
I'm
concerned
about
is
the
psychosocial
and
the
and
the
covet
fatigue.
You
know,
I
think,
we're
all
just
ready
for
this
to
be
over
and-
and
I
completely
get
that.
R
R
I
think
that's,
probably
the
biggest
piece,
so
we've
seen
that
in
schools,
we've
seen
that
in
work
settings
office,
settings
things
like
that.
So
that's
probably
the
first
thing
monitor
yourself.
If
you
don't
feel
well,
you
know
stay
home
and
seek
medical
care.
The
the
other
component
is
just
make
sure
that
you're
doing
all
of
the
hygiene
things
that
we
discuss.
R
We
sent
out
some
information
on
having
thanksgiving
safely
and
really
what
it
comes
down
to
is
just
if
you
can
distance
do
that.
If
you
can
space
and
use
face
coverings,
if
you're
gathering
do
that
as
well,
lots
of
hand
washing
avoid
touching
your
face,
all
the
same
messages
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
quite
some
time,
the
other
side
of
the
public
health
message
for
the
holidays.
Is
we
see
a
lot
of
holiday
stress?
R
We
know
a
lot
of
people
have
endured
some
significant
economic
hardships
through
this
year
and
so
there's
maybe
a
lot
of
pressure
and
depression
and
anxiety
on
not
being
able
to
celebrate
the
holidays.
This
year,
like
they
have
in
years
past,
and
so
that's
a
concern
that
we
have,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
from
the
mental
health
component,
that
people
recognize
that
there's
more
to
the
holiday
than
just
maxing
out
your
credit
cards.
R
O
R
I
think
the
general
public
really
has
a
good
understanding
of
it.
You
know,
but
you
know,
I
think
the
biggest
piece
for
me
is
to
make
sure
that
everyone
knows
that
their
resources
out
there
and
and
just
reach
out
to
either
united
way
through
the
two
on
one
line
or
the
health
department
and
and
if
we
can't
find
the
answer,
we'll
find
the
answer.
If
we
don't
have
the
solution,
we'll
find
it
for
them.
C
C
C
I
think
I
think
it's
really
going
to
save
lives
in
the
long
haul,
but
my
concern
is
that
some
of
the
restaurant
owners
are
telling
their
staff.
They
don't
have
to
wear
masks
because
there
is
no
number
one.
There
is
no
mass
mandate
and
number
two.
We
can't
enforce
it
anyway,
so
you
know
I
don't
there's
not
much.
C
We
can
do
at
this
point
because
other
than
putting
the
mat
the
mass
mandate
in
place,
we
have
no
enforcement
ability,
but
at
the
same
time,
if
we
give
the
restaurant
owners
the
tools
to
do
the
job,
we
would
certainly
hope
that
they
would
have
compliance.
And
yet
some
of
them
are
really
being
obstinate
about
it.
R
Yeah
and
I
think
that's
where
the
covert
fatigue
comes
into
play
and
then
you
know
the
the
whole
conversation
about
mask
wearing
and
things
like
that
became
more
of
a
civil
liberties.
The
conversation
rather
than
just
how
can
we
slow
the
spread?
And
you
know
as
as
a
nation
and
community-
I
mean
I've,
been
here
for
a
long
time
now
and
we've
gone
through
some
adversity
and
we
pulled
together,
but
I
think
because
of
the
duration
of
this
event,
I
think
people
are
are
really
just
getting
wore
out
by
the
whole
thing
and
and
scared.
R
Quite
honestly,
because
you,
you
know
we're
we're
very
divided
on
that
topic,
and
so,
where
we
have
been
at
is
really
pushing
the
just
the
general
conversation
getting
back
to
public
health
messaging
and
saying
during
flu
season.
We
talk
about
covering
your
cough
and
getting
vaccinated
before
halloween
and
all
these
other
things,
because
that
helps
protect
you
and
help
slow,
the
spread
of
flu
and
other
things
during
the
summer
time.
R
We
talk
about
mosquito
control
and
things
like
that,
because
that
helps
protect
from
those
type
of
illnesses,
and
I
think
this
messaging
is
is
we're
still
in
the
middle
of
this
covid
thing.
It's
not
going
to
go
away
tomorrow.
Even
if
we
had
a
vaccine
tomorrow,
we
still
will
take
some
time
before
we
get
to
immunity.
R
You
know
we
can
argue
about
how
effective
they
are,
but
they
do
help
right
and
even
the
cdc
has
said
that.
So
if
you
can
wear
a
mask
and
if
you're
in
a
in
a
work
environment
where
you
can
support
that
and
social
distancing
in
the
hygiene,
those
are
all
great
things
and
so
the
more
tools
we
can
give
folks
to
press
the
brakes
on
kovid
and
slow.
R
The
spread
that'll
just
buy
us
more
time
so
that
we
can
ramp
up
the
medical
interventions,
and
that's
that's
really
where
it's
at
so
we're
working
with
ag
and
consumer
services
on
the
restaurant
side,
when
we
get
those
complaints
as
well
as
our
environmental
health
folks,
are
doing
education
and
our
health
promotions
folks.
So
if
you
hear
something,
let
us
know
and
we'll
certainly
help
with
the
education,
we
really
don't
want
to
be
iron
fisted
and
come
and
threaten
people.
R
We
just
really
want
to
educate,
folks
and-
and
I
think,
what's
happened
in
many
cases-
is
folks-
are
thinking
they're
doing
the
right
things
and
that
they're
safe
in
fact
they're
at
risk.
So
we're
really
educating
people
on
good
infection
control
practices
so
and
then
moderation,
because
you
know,
I
think
the
other
side
too
is
educating
people
on
when
you
don't
have
to
wear
a
mask.
That's
really
big!
R
You
know,
and-
and
I
think
that
would
help
a
lot
too,
because
I
think
some
folks
feel
I
have
to
wear
a
mask
all
the
time.
Even
when
I'm
you
know-
and
you
may
not
have
to-
and
so
that's
also
a
good
thing
to
give
people
a
break
and-
and
so
you
know-
I've
caught
myself
driving
in
the
car
by
myself
with
the
mask
on,
because
I
forgot
to
take
it
off,
so
we've
all
done
it.
R
I
David
mary,
if
I
might
to
follow
up
on
the
mayor's
question
one
of
the
things
that
the
city
I
won't
speak
for
the
city.
One
of
the
things
that
is
the
city
attorney
would
like
to
see
is
if
you
could
run
up
the
chain
of
command
the
idea
that
the
governor,
rescind
the
executive
order,
that
he
did
at
a
time
well
for
reasons
that
remain
unspecified
preempted,
the
ability
of
local
governments
to
decide
for
themselves
whether
or
not
to
be
able
to
enforce
their
various
ordinances.
R
Yeah
I'll
certainly
pass
along
the
the
concerns
and
comments
and,
and
then
you
know,
that'll
roll
its
way
up
through
the
surgeon,
general
and
back
up
to
the
governor's
office.
But
I
you
know,
I
I
think
for
me,
I'm
a
big
fan
of
just
sticking
to
what
I
can
control
and
I
think
what
I
can.
Control
is
messaging
and
education
and
and
and
helping
folks
understand
both
sides
of
the
conversation
right.
I
think,
and
you
know,
there's
still
a
lot
of
fear
out
there,
even
with
the
vaccine
folks
are
still
concerned.
R
Is
the
vaccine
going
to
be
safe
for
me?
Can
I
take
it
so
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
education
and
learning
that
we
have
yet
to
do,
and
I
think
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
we
can
just
look
at
it,
look
at
the
data
and
come
together
as
a
collective
plan
we'll
get
through
this
just
like
we
do
with
hurricanes
and
everything
else.
C
F
F
F
D
F
But,
first
of
all,
congratulations,
madam
mayor.
Thank
you.
Vice
mayor
city,
council
members,
it's
always
a
pleasure
to
spend
time
back
in
back
home
and
get
away
from
tallahassee
for
a
little
while.
So
I
appreciate
you
indulging
a
little
bit
of
time
on
your
agenda
to
talk
about
where
we've
been
where
we
are
a
little
bit
about
where
we're
going.
F
F
Actually
all
members
of
the
legislature
present
to
get
sworn
in
and
for
the
presiding
officers,
speaker
of
the
house
senate
president,
to
take
over
the
gavel
as
the
new
presiding
officers
and
then
they're
beginning
their
process
of
setting
out
minor
changes
to
their
rules,
but
also
reestablishing
all
committee
chairs
and
committee
members
that
latter
step
has
not
been
completed
yet,
but
they're
in
that
process.
Typically,
the
org
session
is
much
about
pomp
and
circumstance.
F
No
member
legislators
staff
were
even
approved
for
travel.
Legislators
were
allowed
allowed
into
the
capital,
of
course,
for
fairly
precisely
scheduled
events
on
the
floor
and
no
persons
other
than
that
were
allowed
on
the
floor.
In
fact,
not
even
family
members
of
legislators,
with
the
exception
of
those
who
were
newly
elected.
F
F
You
get
face
time
with
the
legislator
because
you
arrange
it,
and
so
that's
one
thing
that
I
think
the
lobbying
corps
is
coming
to
conclude
right
away
the
extent
to
which
that
changes
or
eases
as
we
move
into
committee
weeks
and
then
even
into
session.
Nobody
knows
yet
it's
one
of
the
uncertainties,
but
with
that,
let
me
back
up
for
a
moment
and
kind
of
lay
out
a
few
things
that
I
thought
I
would
go
over,
and
so
we
can
make
the
best
use
of
our
time
one.
F
I
want
to
do
a
quick
refresher
on
the
legislative
calendar.
Two,
our
legislative
delegation
three
then
discuss
our
legislative
agenda,
that
is
to
say
the
priority
items
that
you
want
to
focus
your
political
capital
on,
and
then
I
would
say
finally,
some
strategies,
including
your
own
personal
attendance
in
the
capital
and
again
big
question
mark
on
that.
F
So,
first
of
all
the
legislative
cycle
every
other
year,
the
legis,
the
60-day
legislative
session,
starts
either
earlier
or
later
on
a
staggered
year.
This
particular
year
is
one
of
the
later
ones,
meaning
that
it's
rather
than
starting
in
january.
It
starts
in
march.
So,
on
march
3rd,
we'll
begin
the
60-day
legislative
session
and
it'll
end
on
may
2nd
or
3rd,
or
not
many
days
thereafter,
depending
upon
whether
they
get
their
work
done
on
time.
F
So
that's
our
legislative
delegation
and
they'll
meet
for
charlotte
county
on
december
10th
at
pgi
civic
center.
Prior
to
that
december.
4Th,
however,
is
the
deadline
for
us
to
submit
notice
to
the
delegation
chair,
which
is
representative
grant
this
year,
letting
him
know
that
we
intend
to
make
a
presentation.
I
also
when
our
firm
sends
in
that
notice.
We
have
to
identify
the
person
or
persons
that
will
attend.
C
F
I
just
I
go
to
a
lot
of
delegation
meetings
all
over
the
state,
but
typically
in
my
hometown,
in
charlotte
counties
we
will
have
oh
20
25
presenters
and
for
those
of
you
who
haven't
been
to
one
of
those
before
we
essentially
present
before
the
diocese.
Just
like
this
and
lay
out
our
agenda,
it's
fairly
quick
to
two
three
minutes.
I
would
try
to
keep
it
focused
on
a
couple
of
highlight
high
level
issues.
F
After
the
legislative
delegation
we
go
into
the
holidays.
Our
committee
weeks,
the
legislature
typically
has
five
or
six
weeks
when
the
committees
actually
meet
and
try
to
get
organized
figure
out
what
their
main
thrust
is
going
to
be.
The
chairs
get
the
feel
for
the
gavel
and
the
members
get
the
feel
for
the
chair
and
and
the
speaker
or
the
senate
president
starts
to
force
a
little
bit
of
order
on
what
they
want
to
dedicate
their
time.
F
Energy
and
resources
on
those
committee
weeks
will
begin
in
january
and
there'll
be
two
in
february
two
and
two
in
february
two
in
january
three
in
february,
and
then
we
go
right
into
the
march
session.
So
it's
possible
that
the
best
window
of
opportunity
for
you
all
to
come
up
would
be
during
one
of
those
committee
weeks,
although
things
are
still
locked
down
but
appear
to
be
easing,
we
may
defer
that
to
the
first
or
second
week
of
the
session
itself.
F
Also
remember
that
the
florida
league
of
cities
with
whom
we
work
very
closely,
will
have
rally
days
and
they
haven't
made
a
formal
decision
about
whether
they're
going
to
cancel
that
or
hold
it.
But
typically
we
have
representation
from
city
council
through
through
that
event,
and
we
can
either
do
your
meetings
in
the
capitol
then
or
we
can
schedule
those
separately
so
that
you
get
to
do
them
twice,
but
we
consider
to
be
an
important
part
of
our
strategy.
F
D
F
You
to
nag
for
us
a
little
bit
so
mark
your
calendar,
but
just
do
it
with
a
pencil
rather
than
a
pen
for
now.
So
then
we
go
in
as
soon
as
the
committee
weeks
are
over.
We
go
into
the
the
legislative
session.
As
I
said,
it
goes
at
least
60
days,
sometimes
a
few
days
over
and
then,
depending
on
what
matters
emerge
from
that,
whether
it's
appropriations
matters.
If
it's
funding
issues
that
like
what
we've
had
before,
then
we
go
into
a
process
of
establishing
a
cooperative
funding
agreement.
F
That's
a
negotiation
with
the
executive
branch
on
how
to
distribute
funds,
and
then
we
go
all
the
way
through
the
summer
cycle
until
the
fall
and
it
all
starts
again
and
we
start
drawing
down
those
funds.
If
it's
a
policy
issue,
sometimes
there's
you
know
matters
that
have
to
be
taken
up
on
the
local
level
that
your
steam
council
will
help
have
to
work
through,
may
even
have
to
draft
an
ordinance
to
adapt
or
adjust
or
accommodate
something.
That's
occurred
on
the
on
the
state
level.
That's
basically
the
cycle.
F
He
considers
considers
it
a
home
away
from
home,
perhaps
his
future
home
and
just
has
a
a
warm
spot
in
his
heart
for
punta
gorda
and
actively
seeks
out
ways
not
just
to
help
punta
gorda
but
continuously
contacts
us
and
says
hey.
You
know
I
saw
this
bill
or
I
saw
this
amendment.
How
would
that
affect
punta
gorda,
and
he
is
not
doing
that,
for
I
guarantee
you
he's
not
doing
that
for
the
200
plus
municipalities
around
the
state
he
truly
does
is,
is
an
extraordinary
champion
for
punta
gorda,
joe
gruder's,
as
well.
F
He's
tried
to
increase
over
time
his
trips
and
travel
to
punta
gorda
and
get
a
better
and
better
sense.
As
you
all
know,
he
holds
a
very
high
rank
in
unofficial
capacity
outside
the
capitol
in
political
circles
and
he's
very
influential
person
and
we're
fortunate
to
have
him
on
the
delegation
and
then,
of
course,
our
own
mike
grant.
F
Who
is
the
most
senior
in
our
delegation
and,
as
you
all
know,
his
loyalty
to
punta
gorda
and
his
willingness
to
listen
and
help
have
been
very
helpful
in
many
instances
for
us
and,
I
think,
will
continue
to
be.
As
I
said,
he
and
I
met
privately
yesterday
briefly
and
talked
about
our
agenda.
One
of
the
items
that
we
talked
about
as
the
city
manager
and
I
mentioned
discussed
briefly
earlier-
was
the
boca
grand
drainage
water
project
again,
which
is
my
understanding,
is
likely
to
be
on
your
priority
list.
F
So
mike
and
knight
the
majority,
the
leader-
and
I
talked
a
little
bit
about
that-
and
we
have
a
strategy,
although
it
is
going
to
be
a
difficult
year
for
appropriations
for
everybody
covid.
As
you
all
know,
florida
is
one
of
the
states
that
did
not
go
into
a
legislative
session
in
response
to
covid
and
dramatically
change
its
entire
budget.
Fortunately,
florida
has
been
one
of
the
most
fiscally
conservative
states
in
the
country
and
had
been
saving
up
reserves
and
have
always
saved
up
reserves.
F
Year
after
year.
Going
back
to
the
time
when
I
chaired
an
appropriation
committee,
there
we've
always
prided
ourselves
in
our
high
bond
rating,
our
high
our
strong
financial
position
and
keeping
taxes
low
and
making
it
easy
to
do
business
here
and
not
letting
government
grow
so
big
that
it
breaks
the
bank
and
that
has
resulted
in
enough
reserves.
At
least
the
governor
believes
right
now.
That's
enough
reserves
that,
with
the
coupling
of
the
federal
assistance,
did
not
require
us
to
go
in
and
radically
adjust
the
budget.
F
Having
said
that,
however,
there
is
going
to
be
less
money
for
local
projects.
I
suspect,
as
you
all
know,
when
he
signed
this
last
budget,
he
had
to
be
pretty
aggressive
with
his
veto
pen
in
order
to
get
through
that
process.
With
that,
let
me
refer
back
to
the
mayor
and
the
city
manager
for
the
discussion
on
what
you
all
see
as
your
priority
issues
going
forward.
Let
me
just
add
one
last
thing:
the
league
of
cities.
F
A
One
thing
yep,
I
think-
maybe
this
year
because
of
the
one
percent,
the
fact
that
boca
grande
was
identified,
maybe
it'll
help
our
chances
because
from
what?
What
I
do
see
is
that
a
local
area
has
to
actually,
I
guess
they
basically
have
skin
in
the
game
for
the
state.
You
know
to
step
in,
and
I
think
at
this
time
at
least,
I
think
we
may
have
a
better
chance,
because
we
are
now
actively
wanting
to
appropriate
money
ourselves
as
well,
rather
than
having
the
state
do
it
for
us.
A
F
So
a
lot
of
local
governments
come
to
tallahassee
every
year,
really
seeking
to
have
the
state
taxpayers
pay
for
things
that
are
really
local
impact,
and
the
legislature
generally
is
not
in
the
business
of
that.
Although
you
do
see
turkey's
pork
that
gets
shoved
in
there
all
the
time,
and
I
have
plenty
of
ask
me
how
I
know
I
have
plenty
of
date
on
that.
F
But
but
it
is
generally
perceived
that
you
need
to
show
a
state
impact,
and
I
think
we
can
show
that
and
even
strong
share
that
stronger
with
the
boca
grand
drainage
project.
In
the
context
of
impacts
on
charlotte
harbor
estuary
and
and
coupled
with
that,
showing
that
this
that
we
are
a
we
are
a
as
I
describe
punta
gorda.
We
are
a
self-help
community.
We
don't
come
to
tallahassee
with
our
hands
out
every
single
session
when
we
do
come.
F
You
know
it's,
it's
something!
That's
important!
It's
the
emphasis
and
the
focus
that
we
had
with
the
with
the
ro
plant,
the
time
that
we
did
the
funding
for
the
ro
plan.
Pontegorda
hadn't
asked
for
an
appropriation
from
from
the
legislature
in
over
a
decade
and
then,
when
we
did,
we
were
able
to
show
that
we're
putting
most
of
the
skin
in
our
in
the
game
ourselves.
It's
that
kind
of
argument
that
will
win
the
day
with
boca
grant.
B
Nancy
two
things
one.
I
think
you
made
a
good
point
about
the
committee
week
last
year
when
or
this
earlier
this
year,
when
johanna
went
for
the
florida
league
of
cities
legislative
action
days,
it
was
a
zoo
and
I
know
you
were
trying
to
get
us
in
to
see
you
know
like
ben
all,
britain
and
others,
and
it
was
just
it
was
so
chaotic
that
I
mean
it
was
like
we
were
meeting
in
the
aisle
way
kind
of
it
was
like
for
seconds.
B
So
I've
been
told
that
the
committee
weeks
are
really
a
better
time
to
be
able
to
get
on
people's
agendas
and
really
have
some
time.
So
that's
a
a
good
notion.
The
other
thing
I
think
the
florida
league
of
cities.
I
did
quickly
look
over
some
of
the
other
committee,
the
items
that
they
put
out
and
for
their
legislative
agenda
and
some
of
it.
B
So
I
think
that's
a
learning
point
that
you
have
imparted
on
us
that
we,
if
we
can
find
some
common
ground
if
it's
easier
to
have
a
discussion
about
a
particular
part
of
a
bill
or
whatever
that
so
that
it's
we're
really.
As
I
I
know
when
john
and
I
were
sitting
there
in
one
particular
legislator's
office,
it
was
like
no
not
going
there.
B
F
F
You
may
still
get
the
verdict
that
you
want,
if
you
say
the
same
thing,
but
from
a
different
angle
with
a
different
theme.
So
if
it's
a
member
who
has
had
his
or
her
door,
pounded
down
by
200
cities
screaming
home
rule
home
rule
home
rule,
one
that's
a
message.
This
is
so
general
that
you
know
just
kind
of
gets
wrapped
up
in
the
the
white
noise.
F
That's
fundamentally
different,
however,
than
if
there's
a
particular
precise
issue
that
is
important
to
your
municipality,
to
maintain
control
over
because
of
something
unique
in
your
community,
and
you
go
to
that
exact
same
legislator
and
say
that
hey
regulating
the
character
and
conduct
of
vacant
lots
as
to
ruts
and
height
of
grass
and
landscapers
parking
on
my
lots
and
causing
decline
in
property
values
in
our
neighborhoods.
That's
something
that
is
so
important
to
us
that
we
really
want
to
maintain
the
authority
to
regulate
that
on
a
case-by-case
basis
in
our
community.
F
That's
a
totally
different
discussion.
It
is
a
home
rule
argument.
But
if,
if
you
came
to
them
and
just
said,
I
want
home
rule
because
of
ruts
and
lots
they're
going
to
say
I
have
heard
the
home
rule
thing.
But
if
you
come
to
them,
you
talk
to
them
about
that
precise
issue
and
say
hey
when
there's
house
bill
7413
comes
through.
F
B
B
B
F
Man
sure
so
we
serve
on
the
lobby
team,
for
league
of
cities
and
and
so
we're
in
all
all
of
those
meetings.
You
know
not
to
be
careful
about
about
how
I
distinguish
between
the
advocacy
efforts
of
a
large
organization
and
the
advocacy
efforts
for
an
individual
member.
Both
are
important
and
we
highly
value
the
league
of
cities
and
the
role
that
they
play.
F
You
got
to
have
both,
and
so
yes,
you
were
right
and
by
the
way,
the
point
you
made
about
the
league
cities
rally.
Action
days
is
true
too:
it
has
its
place.
It
has
its
value,
but
yeah
members
may
be
kind
of
conditioned
on
a
day
when
all
the
realtors
are
in
town
or
all
the
cattlemen
are
in
town
or
you
know
in,
although
those
days
are
important,
it's
also
important
to
have
a
more
private
focused
time
where
your
interests
are
seen
more
precisely.
A
Questions
yeah
one
last
thing:
I,
the
legal
cities,
had
their
legislative
conference,
I
went
and
for
the
first
time
they
actually
were
doing
coaching
because
they
recognized
the
deficiency
and
and
the
new
president
of
the
league
actually
says
the
home
rule.
Conversation
needs
to
be
more
geared
towards
our
citizenry
rather
than
to
the
legislators,
because
that's
going
to
be,
you
know
who
will
hear
it
better
and
so
actually
was
involved
with.
We
did
a
mock
session
with
with
with
senator
pizo.
You
know
from
miami.
O
A
A
F
F
However,
it
is
likely
that
there's
always
going
to
be
a
steady
diet
of
situations
that
come
up
in
small
towns
or
large
towns
in
places
that
aren't
like
pantagorda,
that
when
you
hear
the
facts
of
them
in
a
committee
room,
you
just
shake
your
head
and
you
say:
I'm
like.
Are
you
kidding
me?
They're
gonna
they're
gonna
tell
a
private
property
owner
that
they
can't
grow
a
pepper
they
they
can't
grow
a
tomato
plant
in
their
front
yard.
F
Next
thing
you
know
you've
got
a
big
preemption
bill,
but
never
have
I
seen
one
of
those
bills
that
originated
from
something
that
the
city
of
contact
did,
because
you
all
aren't
just
you
just
not
like
that.
I
just
I
just
sat
here
and
listened
to.
You
have
a
nice
hearty
healthy
debate
about
the
balance
between
the
interests
of
neighbors
having
to
look
at
an
eyesore
versus
not
wanting
government
to
go
so
far
that
you
overreach
with
that
property
owner
who,
I
think
lived
in
maryland.
F
F
Not
you're
not
likely
to
be
a
city
council,
that's
going
to
do
something
that
would
give
birth
to
one
of
those
preemption
bills.
I'm
simply
warning
you.
However,
there
are
other
cities,
particularly
in
the
lec,
the
lower
east
coast,
palm
beach,
broward
miami-dade
every
year.
They
just
provide
it's
just
right
out
of
central
casting,
but
it's
not
your.
E
C
No,
don't
even
go
there,
don't
even
all
right.
So
all
of
this
that's
been
said,
we
need
to
come
up
with
our
legislative
agenda
that
we're
going
to
put
forward
to
the
to
the
delegation
in
december,
and
I
wrote
down
a
couple
of
ideas
of
my
own
and
had
a
conversation
with
my
little
kitchen
cabinet
group
yesterday,
and
they
they
came
up
with
another
one
that
I
hadn't
even
thought
of
most
of
what's
on
my
list.
C
And
the
third
is
that
we'll
we're
going
to
have
to
do
a
major
overhaul
of
our
wastewater
treatment
plant
in
the
not
too
distant
future,
and
we've
already
started
gearing
up
for
that
with
some
of
the
the
rate
increases
that
are
going
to
take
place
for
the
water
and
sewer
bills
for
the
residents
that
are
in
our
service
area.
So
those
are
all
kind
of
things
that
I
think
I'd
like
to
see
on
our
list
and
I'd
like
to
hear
from
all
of
you
what
you
think.
B
Yeah
I
agree
the
we
may
not
be
ready
to
make
a
an
ask
for
dollars
on
the
subject
to
sewer,
because
we
haven't
we're
not
far
enough
along,
but
I
think
another
one.
I
would
add-
and
I
don't
know
if
hopefully
we're
far
enough
along
or
we'll
be
gone
up
along,
is
a
historic
preservation
of
our
and
I
don't
know,
even
though
we
have
allocated
local
options.
B
F
I
don't
know
how
big
the
water
project
pot
is
going
to
be
this
year.
It
might
be
better
if
it's
not
quite
ripe
yet
for
that
to
be
deferred
for
the
next
cycle,
when
the
pot
of
water
project
funds
is
bigger.
But
while
we're
talking
about
septic
to
sewer-
and
I'm
embarrassed
to
have
to
ask
this
question-
but
do
you
all
have
authorized
property
assessed
clean
energy
programs
pace?
Yes,
you
do.
F
C
That's
something
we
could
look
at
again.
We
aren't
that
far
along
with
this
whole
thing,
we've
got
the
preliminary
basics
put
together
on
it
and
we
have
concurrence
from
the
county
commissioners
that
they
will
support
it
to
the
extent
that
they
will
allow
us
to
put
it
on
the
tax
bills
when
it
comes
time.
But
beyond
that,
we
haven't
gotten
much
further
than
that.
So,
okay.
F
Well,
maybe
I
can
have
an
offline
discussion
with
city
manager
absolutely
about
that
concept.
Also,
I'm
sure
all
y'all
are
familiar
with
the
the
history
of
septic
to
sewer
in
charlotte
county.
I
lived
the
wars
back
in
the
90s
at
the
county,
attorney's
office
over
that
and
then
later
as
council
to
the
england
water
district
in
the
water
district,
I
often
hold
up
as
somewhat
of
a
gold
standard
model.
They
broke
their
system
down
into
phases.
They
put
a
lot
of
information
out
there
early
on.
F
They
had
a
sign
up
and
save
program
so
that
people
could
buy
into
it
very
early
pay
down
that
cost
by
the
time
the
phase
got
around
to
them.
It
was
a
fraction
of
the
cost.
They
got
a
huge
savings
by
contributing
early,
they
did
a
whole
bunch
of
really
smart
strategies
with
their
program,
but
when
they
got
to
the
end,
their
phase-
nine,
I
remember
they
still.
F
They
had
like
a
portion
of
that
last
phase
was
one
of
the
most
economically
depressed
parts
of
their
district,
and
they
had
some
homeowners
who
the
you
know,
six
eight
thousand
dollars
hit
was
just
more
than
they
could
bear
and
someone
would
even
risk
losing
their
properties,
and
so
they
had
a
hardship
program
and
I
procured
for
them.
Several
years
ago
a
350
000
appropriation
from
the
state
to
contribute
toward
their
hardship
program
for
these
persons
who
are
in
these
economically
challenged
areas.
Something
to
think
about.
I
The
statute
provides
regarding
method,
knowledge
and
funding,
I'm
trying
to
work
within
the
parameters
of
the
existing
legislation,
but
it
might
need
to
be
tweaked
a
little
bit
and
that's
kind
of
one
of
those
things
that
wouldn't
involve
getting
dollars
from
the
legislature,
but
tweaking
a
statute
that
might
give
us
some
additional
flexibility
might
be
perfect
for
this.
This
this
time.
B
F
In
effect,
that's
what
they
are
and
there's
a
separate
process
for
that.
Your
local
delegation
first
holds
once
you
draft
that
local
bill
and
your
delegation
has
to
vote
it
out
favorably.
I
have
to
notice
it
in
the
newspaper
locally
and
then
it
gets
a
hearing
in
tallahassee
and
then
a
final
vote
on
the
floor.
Typically
in
a
whole
batch
of
local
bills.
As
a
general
rule,
the
legislature
will
defer
great
discretion
to
local
communities,
seeking
a
local
bill
to
address
a
problem
in
their
community.
If
the
delegation
has
supported
it.
F
So
what
I'm
getting
at
is
that
for
something
like
that,
we
may
not
have
to
do
a
general
bill
that
applies
statewide.
We
may
not
have
to
amend
the
statute
books
that
apply
to
everybody.
Maybe
I'll
just
do
a
local
bill.
It's
probably
a
little
late
in
the
legislative
cycle
this
year
to
do
that,
but
we
can
spend
some
time
thinking
about
that.
I've
done
a
lot
of
local
bills.
L
And
with
septic
disorder,
specifically,
that's
exactly
why
we're
getting
it
on
the
radar
now?
Okay,
because
those
type
things
especially
if
we
don't
have
statewide
implications,
can
be
much
more
easily.
That's
right
push
through,
so
that
it
benefits
the
city
and
what
we
need
to
do,
and
even
when
we
look
at
septic
to
sewer
and
the
overall
cost
per
property,
and
when
you
talk
about
hardships,
etc,
we're
right
at
the
beginning
of
all
those
issues
identifying
where
we
need
to
go,
so
you
can
make
the
decision
as
how
we
proceed.
L
Of
course,
we
have
the
engineer:
that's
ready
to
pull
the
trigger
on
that
to
do
per
and
different
things
so
that
we
have
some
better
information,
but
all
the
issues
you
just
addressed,
especially
englewood,
those
type
of
models,
etc,
are
something
that
we're
at
the
very
beginning
of
looking
at
to
need
to
proceed
with
expeditiously.
So
we
can
determine
the
feasibility
of
moving
the
project
forward.
L
And
mayor,
if,
if
I
may,
we
did
have
something
written
down
about
at
least
for
our
wastewater
treatment
plant.
We
have
to
address
that.
We
do
have
a
major
wastewater
treatment
plant
project
coming
up
and
it
ties
in
with
that
we're
also
at
the
beginning
of
that
we
have
an
engineer
on
board
and
we're
looking
at
what
that
may
take.
L
But
of
course
we
can't
pick
up
our
wastewater
treatment
plant
and
move
it
because
a
lease
expires,
so
that
may
be
a
behind
the
scenes
conversation
also,
but
we
certainly
need
to
get
that
resolved
and
we've
put
this
on
the
agenda
now,
because
we
still
have
december
2nd
that
you
can
think
about
this.
You
can
finalize
what
your
request
may
be,
because
we
have
until
the
4th
to
get
the
legislative
agenda
formally
in
mikhail's
been
working
on
that
she's.
L
F
C
G
G
G
B
B
D
C
Q
N
O
I
This
is
ga
14-20-20,
the
first
reading
of
an
ordinance
that
I'll
read
my
title.
Only
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
amending
the
pundi
border
code,
chapter
23
traffic,
article
roman
numeral
1
in
general,
reserve
section
23-5
to
adopt
traffic
regulations
prohibiting
left,
turns
at
the
cooper
street
and
east
mackenzie
street
intersection
during
certain
times
of
the
day,
providing
for
conflict
and
severability
and
providing
an
effective
date.
N
Good
morning
again,
michael
finkel
paralegal
for
the
record,
this
ordinance
was
developed
based
on
the
conversation
back
in
september
with
city
council
in
your
direction
to
help
alleviate
the
traffic
concerns
on
the
area
of
east
mckenzie
and
cooper
street
during
school
pick
up
and
drop
off.
So
the
ordinance
just
follows
that
prohibits
the
no
left
turn.
N
You
can
see
the
red
area
traveling
north
on
cooper,
inhibiting
that
left-hand
turn
onto
east
mckinsey,
with
the
hope
that
the
folks
go
on
to
further
up
north,
make
their
left
hand
turn
on
allen
street
and
come
around
the
school.
So
please
here
also,
if
you
have
any
issues
or
any
questions
with
the
proposed.
C
C
S
C
A
C
I
Thank
you
and
next
is
ga-15-2020.
This
is
the
first
reading
of
an
ordinance
which
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
an
ordinance
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
puente
order,
florida
amending
the
provisions
of
chapter
17,
public
utilities,
article
1
general
provisions,
water
rates
and
article
2,
use
of
public
and
private
sewers
and
drains
sewer
rates.
T
O
C
C
S
C
T
C
I
P
P
P
P
The
strict
and
literal
interpretation
creates
an
undue
hardship,
because
this
installation
of
the
screen
enclosure
would
not
be
permitted.
The
property
was
purchased
in
2016
and
the
regulations
have
not
changed
since
the
since
the
purchase.
The
applicant
has
provided
medical
statements
regarding
the
need
for
pool
therapy.
P
The
hardship
is
not
shared
by
others,
however,
conditions
do
exist
for
some
properties
in
pgi
and
the
condition
is
potentially
shared
by
others.
The
variance
is
not
injurious
or
incompatible
with
the
contiguous
uses.
Neighboring
properties
have
enclosures
and
the
request
is
not
injurious
or
incompatible
with
contiguous
uses,
variance
being
the
minimum
modification
to
afford
relief.
It
is
just
a
screen
enclosure.
We
feel
that
it
does.
It
has
minimum
modification
of
the
regulations
to
afford
relief.
P
The
condition
for
the
variants
was
not
created
by
the
person
having
presently
having
interest
in
the
property,
because
these
conditions
have
existed
since
1974
when
the
property
was
constructed
or
developed.
The
property
was
purchased
in
2016
by
the
current
property
owner.
The
condition
existed
at
the
time
of
purchase
and
cannot
be
reasonably
corrected
or
avoided
by
the
applicant.
P
The
request
does
not
involve
a
prohibited
use
because
screen
enclosures
are
permitted
in
the
single
family
residential
zoning
district,
and
the
request
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan.
2040
future
land
use
element
for
additional
findings.
Two
medical
professional
letters
were
provided.
Two
letters
of
support
from
the
adjacent
property
owners
were
provided
canal
maintenance.
We
did
request
them
to
do
an
inspection.
P
Their
2020
inspection
report
said
the
annual
assessment
rate
is
one
on
this
sea
wall
and
see
well
cap,
which
is
in
good
condition
the
building
official
favors
a
screen
cage
for
pool
safety
over
a
fence
conclusions.
The
house
again
constructed
in
1974
the
rare
yard
setback
at
that
time
was
15
feet.
The
current
rare
yard
setback
requirement
is
20
feet,
which
was
changed
in
1984..
P
C
U
Thank
you
for
the
record.
My
name
is
warren
ross.
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicants,
mr
and
mrs
sukup,
I
have
been
sworn,
I
don't
think
I'll
be
taking
20
minutes
the.
We
believe
this
variance
application
is
supported
by
substantial
and
clear
evidence,
starting
with
dr
glick's
diagnosis
in
january
of
this
year.
U
I
printed
off
a
article
from
the
internet
this
morning,
titled
five
important
benefits
of
pull
screen
enclosures
from
the
website
for
homestratosphere.com
it
talks
is
the
the
first
one
they
mentioned
is
the
blocking
out
of
sun's
uv
rays.
It
also
keeps
helps,
keep
mosquitoes
and
other
pests
away
from
the
pool
area
and
keeps
debris
out
of
the
pool
area
the
I
I
could
go
on
I
mean
we
do
have
the
notes
from
the
adjoining
property
owners.
The
is
in
good
condition.
B
U
I
I
J
J
The
idea
of
the
enclosure
was
strictly
for
my
wife's
benefit
of
the
uv
rays,
and
it
would
help
her
immensely
radiation
that
just
burns
her
skin
now
and
it
would
help
out
immensely.
I
I
never
looked
at
the
point
about
the
chain-link
fence
or
the
fence
to
it.
It's
kept
up
and
it's
proper
and
it's
well
maintained.
C
J
J
J
And
then
also
that
one
which
has
an
enclosure
above
them,
I
think
it's
nine,
whatever
whatever
that
is,
they
have
a
fence
so,
like
her
whole
thing's
fenced
in
this
is
fenced
in
his
is
fenced
and
it's
a
little
older
area
of
pgi.
You
know
it's
built
in
74,
but
I
think
we
have
a
pretty
pretty
nice
looking
street.
C
C
Q
C
Q
C
C
U
B
C
Q
C
C
G
C
C
O
P
Good
morning
again,
lisa
hannon
zoning
official.
We
received
the
event
application
for
a
weekly
food
distribution
event
from
the
first
macedonia
church.
I
believe
they're
doing
this
anyway,
but
now
with
covid
they're,
doing
it
as
a
drive-through
for
more
safety
precautions
and
they
have
to
or
they're
requesting
to
close
charlotte
between
miles
and
mlk
and
they're
just
requesting
it
takes
a
little
bit
of
maintenance
of
traffic
and
they're
requesting.
P
Since
it's
weekly,
it's
on
tuesdays
from
8
to
3.
did
go
to
drc
last
friday.
Before
last,
they
recommended
approval
of
the
weekly
event,
but
of
course,
staff
has
no
authority
to
offer
any
in-kind
services,
so
it
would
be
up
to
council
if,
if
they
feel
that
would
be
it's
86.70
a
week
for
maintenance
of
traffic.
There's
no
police
have
talked
to
the
resource
officer
and
the
principal
at
baker
academy.
There's
no
issue
with
any
of
the
traffic
as
far
as
parent
pickup
or
the
bus
routes,
they've
taken
care
of
all
that
they
say.
Q
I
would
just
like
to
say
that,
since
punta
gorda
doesn't
have
a
specific
way
of
meeting
the
needs
of
some
of
our
residents,
I
think
any
way
we
can
support
the
people
who
are
doing
it.
We
should
be
very
happy
to
help-
and
I
am
very
much
in
favor
of
if
this
is
all
they
need
to
get
food
to
people
who
need
it.
I'm
in
favor.
B
P
That
themselves
they
have
the
the
traffic
rated
the
proper
barricades,
the
the
map
for
the
maintenance
of
traffic
and
and
the
required
we've,
given
them
that
required
information.
They
actually
pay
rent
on
the
street
because
they
consider
it
because
they
want
exclusive
use
of
the
street.
So
so
we
have
the
invoice
that
it
goes
every
every
year
they
pay
a
yearly
invoice
and
we
review
it
every
year.
B
Correct
got
it
that
is
correct
and
I
don't
disagree
with
with
vice
mayor.
Carry
on
assisting
them.
I
was
just
wondering
if
this
was
something
that,
if
we
needed
to
do
it
or
if
it
was
something
that
if
they
had
the
tools,
they
would
be
able
to
do
it
themselves,
and
can
you
know
with
our
support
kind
of
thing
so
that
it
was
maybe
not
as
onerous
on
our
staff
so
something
that
we
could
work
out
so
that
you
know
it
was
a
program
that.
P
L
N
O
L
Has
grown
tremendously,
they
were
actually
in
and
talked
about
that
a
few
weeks
back
and
it's
growing
substantially
from
when
they
first
started
this,
and
it's
going
from
walk
in
to
drive
through,
of
course,
with
the
new
contact.
So
if
they
can
do
that,
we
would
certainly
like
to
give
them
the
opportunity
and
check
on
it
a
couple
times
to
make
sure
it's
done
correctly
and
then
potentially
it
would
be
less
owner
or
someone.
You
know
staff
on
each
tuesday
morning
and
they
could
then
do
it
themselves.
B
G
C
L
D
E
L
S
Clerk,
yes,
thank
you
just
one
thing:
under
boards
and
committees,
we
have
the
list
of
vacancies,
they
haven't
changed
since
our
last
meeting.
We
have
two
alternates
on
the
board
of
zoning
appeals.
One
alternate
on
the
building
board,
an
unexpired
term
on
the
general
employees,
pension
board
and
an
unexpired
term
on
the
utility
advisory
board.
That's
all.
I
have.