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Utility Advisory Board 09-27-2021
A
B
B
D
C
E
A
A
A
A
I
got
some
things
to
if
you
wouldn't
mind
taking
back
from
absolutely.
A
A
E
A
Thank
you,
as
I
think
everyone's
aware,
we
had
a
little
mix-up
in
the
listing
for
today
on
the
heading,
but
I
don't
think
that
that
will
really
make
much
of
a
difference.
Thing
is
how
we
are
all
here.
A
Okay,
the
next
scheduled
meeting
is
going
to
be
october,
25th
2021.,
with
that
we
move
on
to.
We
have
a
a
little
different
system
with
the
item
here.
It
says
anyone
wishing
to
address
the
utility
board
may
do
it
at
the
appropriate
time.
The
standard
is
that
they
may
do
it
at
the
during
any
of
the
agenda
items
initially
with
that.
Looking
for
the
approval
of
minutes
so
move
second,
all
in
favor,
aye
aye
all
opposed
minutes
have
passed
next
up.
We
have
our
reports.
C
Items
that
were
on
the
council
agenda,
the
last
two
meetings
was
the
proposed
rate
increases
finance.
Can
the
same
questions
could
help
in
that?
But
so
that's
the
first
meeting
in
the
second
meeting
the
council
approved,
approved
those.
B
Good
morning
kristen
simeone
finance
director,
so
we
have
our
financial
reports
and
since
we
hadn't
met,
there
were
actually
three
months
worth
in
there,
but
I'll
just
start
with
august.
Unless
you
have
any
questions
on
june
or
july,
so
you
can
see
where
we're
at
we're
91.7
percent
through
the
year
and
for
charges
for
services.
B
This
is
on
the
projection,
so
our
updated
numbers
you
can
see
we're
at
101
percent
of
revenue
that
includes
both
the
water
sewer,
tap
fees.
Things
like
that
on
the
expenditure
side,
you
can
also
see
that
we're
again
still
doing
really
the
divisions
are
still
being
very
careful
with
funding
with
with
their
funds,
but
where
they're
at
year-to-date
they're
a
little
under
if
you're
doing
exactly
11
months.
B
So
you
don't
see
the
individual
divisions
and
if
you
look
compared
to
original
budget
for
water
billings,
we
were
at
107.3
percent
and
for
sewer
building,
billings
105.3
percent,
and
I
did
just
want
to
mention
on
that.
That
was
because,
when
we
were
building
our
budget
the
prior
year,
we
were
using
our
our
old
rates,
the
ones
that
had
been
in
place
since
2016,
and
we
had
the
rate
increase
january
1
of
2021.
B
So
based
on
the
the
consultant's
report
and
just
bringing
that
up
since
our
utilities,
director
mentioned
the
rate
increase,
we
were
able
to
only
recommend
a
two
percent
increase
rather
than
what
the
consultants
had
originally
recommended
of
3.75.
So
we
were
able
to
bring
that
down
for
fiscal
year,
2022.
B
H
Mike,
yes
christian,
I
had
a
question
about
the
rate
increase.
Yes,
so
the
last
one
went
into
effect
january
1
of
21
and
then
we
we
we
as
a
board
and
whoever
else
may
be.
We
agreed
that
we're
going
to
look
at
that
every
year,
instead
of
like
the
automatic
three-year
plan
correct.
So
when
do
we
revisit
when
the
rate
increase
should
or
should
not
go
into
effect,.
B
So
I
don't
know
if
you
recall,
but
we
did
bring
the
budget
to
the
board
before
we
brought
it
to
city
council,
so
I
believe
it
was
in
june
that
we
came
or
might
have
been.
May
I'd
have
to
look
at
the
dates.
The
same
thing
happens
next
year.
So
we'll
bring
you
first,
our
origin.
You
know
where
we're
at
for
of
the
long
range
plan
that
usually
happens.
B
We
bring
that
to
council,
usually
january
or
early
february,
and
then
we'll
bring
it
to
your
board
shortly
thereafter,
then
we
start
building
our
budget
based
on
city
council
direction.
That
has
come
out
of
the
long
range
financial
plan,
and
then
we
bring
the
the
budget
to
you
all.
First
before
we
go
to
council
so
again,
sometimes
it
fluctuates
year
by
year.
B
B
Two
percent
that
we
just
put
into
place
would
be
october,
1,
2022,
so
it'll
be
the
full
fiscal
year.
Okay,
the
last
time
we
couldn't
started
october,
one
because
we
didn't
have
all
the
information
from
the
consultants
at
that
time,
but
going
forward,
we
try
to
do
it
on
a
fiscal
year.
It's
just
much
easier
for
us
to
budget
it
than
in
our
plan.
B
This
chart
just
compares
to
last
year
and
again,
let
me
just
try
and
do
that,
where
we're
at
revenues
to
expenditures
the
the
hard
thing
about
comparing
this
one
to
last
year
was
we
were
paying
the
the
fund
back
for
funds
that
were
used
while
we
were
waiting
for
reimbursements
from
the
grant.
B
Here's
our
chart
for
just
water
revenue,
so
this
is
just
water
revenues
and
the
blue
dotted
line
is
our
original
projection.
The
black
line
is
actual
of
this
year,
so
fiscal
year,
2021,
all
the
other
lines
are
prior
years.
It
just
kind
of
gives
you
a
little
history
kind
of
shows
you
how
the
trend
line
works
and
you
can
see
we
have
been
and
again,
we've
been
over
just
because
we
have
the
increase
in
rates.
B
But
when
you
look
at
august
we're
just
a
little
bit
above
projection
original
projection,
but
we're
still
doing
good
overall,
so
10.4
million
versus
original
budget
of
9.7
million.
B
That
one's
harder,
like
sometimes
you
have
to
like
look
at
various
factors,
so
it's
a
little
harder
you're
trying
to
pick
it
apart
right,
so
you've
got
rainfall
that
might
affect
it.
If,
like
rainfall
is
late
or
early
weather
for
the
snow
birds
this
year,
I
think
some
of
them
went
back
a
little
later.
B
F
B
B
We
can
look
at
that.
For
you,
I
mean
we
do
know
how
many
are
at
zero
consumption
in
any
month.
You
know,
so
we
could
kind
of
do
a
comparison
of
that.
But
again
sometimes
it's
because
a
meter
might
have
stopped
working.
I
mean
and
that's
our
constant
struggle
with
trying
to
find
those
meters,
because
we
have
so
many
that
are
at
zero,
sometimes
and
are
at
zero
for
several
months.
We're
continually
trying
to
send
people
out.
B
You
know,
but
so
it
is
a
little
hard
in
this
that
type
of
environment,
to
try
and
find
that.
But
we
could
look
into
that
for
you
and
get
you
a
percentage.
F
B
Was
going
to
say,
that's
even
harder,
because
you
do
have
more
people
that
maybe
are
staying
home
and
working
from
home
like
I
know
when
we
for
like
the
first
couple
months
of
covid,
like
so
back
in
2020
march
april,
we
saw
a
large
increase
in
water
use.
Well,
probably
people
were
filling
up
their
pools
and
using
their
pool
more
or
something
I
don't
know,
but
it
seemed
like
there
was.
There
was
more
usage
in
those
couple,
those
first
couple
months
when
people
were
really
staying
home.
B
B
Okay,
so
this
chart
just
shows
each
of
our
line
items
and
the
inside
outside
means
inside
city
limits
or
outside
city
limits.
So
and
again
you
can
see
the
base
charges
versus
the
usage
charges
for
both
water
and
sewer
and
then
in
what
range.
Sometimes
people
you
know
might
move
up
to
another
range,
mostly
it's
commercial
that
starts
moving
up.
B
B
These
are
total
revenues,
excluding
just
the
impact
fee
transfers.
So
for
comparison
and
again,
this
trend
line
generally
follows
our
water
usage,
as
that's
our
biggest
revenue
for
this
fund,
so
year-to-date
budget
was
16,
almost
17
million
dollars
and
year-to-date
actual
or
18-point.
Almost
three
million
dollars.
B
B
For
the
wastewater
side
was
a
repayment,
because
the
utilities
operations
fund
helped
with
the
filter
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
filtration
project,
so
they
had
paid
for
it
up
front
and
then
there
the
impact
fees
are
paying
that
back.
Okay,.
B
A
The
next
item
on
the
agendas
which
has
handed
out
is
new
business,
but
we
seem
to
have
skipped
over
unfinished
business.
So
I
think
we'll
revert
to
that,
and
I
believe
that
I
had
gone
through
a
few
of
these
things
and
I
steve
adams
would
have
probably
be
the
person
to
answer
most
of
them,
so
we'll
do
what
we
can
do
and
mr
pavlos
and
mr
leonard
might
be
able
to
to
respond.
A
First
off
during
the
previous
meeting,
mr
adams
replied
to
a
question
regarding
the
the
draft
request
for
quote
on
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
that
we
were
in
the
with
an
as
an
explanation
of
the
rfq
process.
Indicating
a
pre-bid
meeting
could
take
place
due
to
the
nature.
Has
any
pre-bed
meeting
yet
taken
place.
I
For
the
record,
steve
leonard
senior
project
manager,
now
just
to
be
clear,
your
question
is
about
the
wastewater
plant,
the
seymour
construction
manager
at
risk
that.
I
I
Utility
staff
would
like
to
see
it
happen
within
the
next
30
days,
but
you
know
procurement
has
a
lot
of
tnc's,
they
have
to
go
through
and
a
lot
of
hoops
to
jump
through
and
you
know
we
don't.
We
don't
control
their
schedule.
I
A
Okay,
then
one
of
the
the
the
next
item
that
was
on
it
was
mr
severo
inquired
whether
an
engineering.
Well,
I
think
that
was
taken
down,
but
there
was
a
discussion
about
any
well.
A
Mr
savarro
had
opined
that
wanted
to
mgd
being
and
handed
added
to
the
product
or
the
finished
design
at
this
point
would
probably
be
a
benefit.
I
believe
that
the
the
statement
was
made
that
for
mgd,
which
was
what
the
the
the
plan
is,
is
determined
to
be
the
most
cost
effective.
Is
that
correct.
I
That
is
the
headwear.
It's
got
to
do
with
the
peaking
factor
and
the
way
dep
requires
you
to
design
a
facility.
Currently
our
head
works
and
some
other
structures
that
we're
not
touching
are
only
rated
at
12
million.
You
have
to
have
that
they've
determined
that
our
peaking
factor
is
three
times
the
average
flow.
So
in
order
to
go
above,
four
we'd
be
required
to
knock
down
the
headworks
and
replace
other
infrastructure
and
make
it
a
more
expensive
project
that
we
don't
want.
I
mean,
for
instance,
our
deep
wells
only
rated
at
12
million.
I
A
Don't
wasn't
asking
I
couldn't
imagine
next
on
the
the
list
was
that
a
contract
was
issued
for
the
url
mechanical
integrity
test
at
the
ro
deep
well.
Has
that
been
accomplished.
I
A
F
Chairman
chairman,
can
I
ask
one
follow-up
question
on
the
last
time
I
thought
between
between
our
last
two
meetings,
there
was
going
to
be
further
discussions
on
limiting
the
withdrawals
from
shell
creek
is
that?
Has
there
been
any
discussion
on
that?
I
know
that
was
gonna.
We
were
really
worried
that
was
gonna
affect
where
we're
gonna
have
to
spend,
and
I
I
had
a
feeling
that
either
the
manager
or
someone
told
me
that
it
came
back
worse
than
we
expected
that.
C
We've
been
going
back
and
forth
with
the
district,
their
yeah,
their
initial
plan
was
going
to
be.
You
know,
almost
they've
gone
back
and
looked
at
the
data.
We've
met
again
with
them
with
the
city
manager,
they've
made
their
presentation
and
their
position
and
we've
now
the
city
manager
responded
back
to
them
that
we're
we
accept
what
they're
proposing
and
we
think
it
works
well
for
both
of
us
meets
the
requirement
for
the
minimum
flows
and
we're
confident
that
it
will
meet
our
needs.
C
There's
one
month
in
the
future
october,
when
we're,
if
we're
in
tier
one
we'd,
have
to
get
some
water
from
the
peace
river
authority,
it's
a
small
enough
amount
that
we'll
be
able
to
send
it
back
to
them
and
not
have
to
pay
pay
any
money
for
it.
So
we'll
be
presenting
that
to
council.
C
C
So
we'll
be
briefing
council
the
second
meeting
in
october
and
if
they
agree,
then
we'll
actually
we're
going
to
meet
with
the
district
first
week
of
october
to
talk
about
the
modifications
to
the
permit.
That
would
be
required.
So
we
would
have
plant
superintendents
comfortable.
You
know
he
can
meet
all
the
requirements.
A
Still
going
on
during
the
our
last
meeting,
there
was
a
talk
about
the
water
main
replacement
on
taylor.
Road
who's,
currently
in
design,
would
be
out
for
bid
in
the
near
future.
I
believe
that
mr
rooney
also
had
questioned
its
location
and
what
expansion
of
tala
road
may
be
impending.
F
F
I
think,
east
of
cooper
to
four
lanes
and
part
of
the
issue
was
what
was
going
to
happen
with
utilities,
and
I
know
the
city
has
plans
to
make.
I
think
everything
west
of
cooper
more
of
a
complete
street,
so
I
was
just
trying
to
see
if,
if
the
different
parts
of
entities,
whether
it's
you
know
community
development
or
whoever's
working
with
it,
is
all
coordinating,
so
we
make
sure
that
we're
not
tearing
up
roads
after
afterwards.
I
Yeah
we
we
know
of
a
merc
multi-use
recreational
trailer,
talking
about
putting
down
taylor
road
we've
been
trying
to
get
the
plans
for
that,
we're
still
about
60
design.
On
that
we're
trying
to
put
it
we're,
trying
pretty
much.
The
right
of
way
is
really
tight.
We're
limited
to
putting
it
almost
where
the
existing
water
line
is
it's
going
to
be
basically
right
next
to
the
existing
water
line,
we're
going
to
find
ways
to
feed
around
the
construction,
remove
the
existing,
replace
it
bring
them
back
on.
I
H
I
F
A
Who
is
responsible
for
that?
Is
that
a
county
project,
or
is
that
a
private
door.
F
Is
involved
with
the
if
it's
there
are,
there
are
certain
trail
initiatives
that
that
are
funded
through
the
state,
and
so
it
come.
Basically,
I
think
the
county
and
the
city
through
the
mpo
would
request
it,
and
then
the
money
would
kind
of
flow.
That
way
it
would
be
a
state
project
probably
operated
by
the
county.
Yes,.
A
I
guess
I
understand
where
the
difficulty
comes
in
getting
the
information
moving
on.
There
was
a
question
about
the
distribution
system
with
the
tea
and
green
community
that
mr
adams
stated
that
the
wastewater
collection
was
funding
the
design
of
the
force
main
on
henry
street
from
brass
to
mpf,
two
items
there.
A
C
A
I
carried
the
the.
C
I
I
Yes,
that's
right
over
here,
close
to
the
master,
we
upgraded
the
area
west
of
the
bridge
and
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
come
now
east
of
the
bridge
over
to
the
master
and
replace
it
and
there's
a
one
gravity,
sewer
manhole.
That
has
an
issue
it's
collapsing,
so
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
replace
that
as
part
of
the
project,
it's
right
on
the
same
street.
I
A
And
that's
another
part
of
your
replacement
of
the
the
dr
lyon
pipe
with
the
pvc.
Yes,
thank
you.
The
again.
Almost
all
of
this
was
done
by
miss
adams.
Sorry
about
that
steve,
but
the
consultant
was
selected
for
the
septic
to
sewer
system
first
off.
Who
would
that
be.
C
They
had,
they
had
different
task
orders
in
their
work
authorization
and
they
just
finished
up
what
they
called
task.
Six,
which
was
the
final
report.
C
So
they
submitted
a
final
report
where
one
of
the
options
was
they
looked
at
this
type
of
sewer,
gravity
versus
vacuum
and
was
there
they're
actually
recommending
a
mixture,
because
there's
some
that
we
have
existing
gravity
right
next
to
some
of
the
area
and
they're
saying
we
could
tie
into
that
and
then
the
other
areas
they
recommend
vacuum
because
of
the
depths
and
the
bridge
crossings,
and
so
it's
kind
of
they're
proposing
a
mixture
of
sewer
for
and
they
have
like
six
different
areas
when
they
show
that
the
city
manager's
office
asked
me
for
some
information,
so
I
think
they're
getting
ready
to.
C
C
A
So
I
take
it
we'll
until
council
does
take
a
look,
that'll
be
put
on
sort
of
a
hold
we're
on.
C
F
If,
if
I
recall,
I
think
part
of
the
process
was
there
was
there
was
consideration
of
whether
or
not
to
spend
the
money
on
the
engineering,
but
if
they
could
at
least
come
to
a
preliminary
idea,
what
would
be
done,
then?
The
idea
is
maybe
there's
grants
or
other
things
available
too,
because
the
long-term
plan
had
been
to
go
to
get
the
county
to
do
an
assessment
and
that's
questionable
whether
they'll
actually
commit
to
that.
So
I
think
this
is
about
as.
A
Good
as
we
can
get
at
the
moment-
oh
yeah,
no,
I
understand
just
wanted
to
see
where
we
were
and
what
the
next
step
would
be.
A
I
A
Thank
you
does
anyone
else
have
anything
on
unfinished
business.
F
We
just
have
the
bylaws,
I
think.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
which
I
wasn't
it
was
they
weren't
strike
through
an
underline.
They
looked
mostly
the
same
just
rearranged.
F
G
G
So
these
are
the
proposed
bylaws.
One
of
the
somewhat
larger
changes
we
made
was
right
off
in
the
beginning,
under
creation
in
terms
of
members
and
conditions.
Excuse.
D
G
A
G
The
boards
and
committees
of
the
city
generally
have
a
three-year
term
with
a
maximum
of
three
terms,
but
due
to
slight
variations
in
the
wording,
some
boards,
you
could
come
back
on
some
of
them.
You
might
not,
depending
on
gaps
in
the
terms.
So
what
we've
done
is
cleaned
it
up
to
make
all
the
ones
we're
reviewing
right
now,
state
appointments
shall
be
made
for
a
term
of
three
years.
Appointees
shall
serve
at
the
pleasure
of
city
council
and
may
be
appointed
to
a
maximum
of
three
terms.
G
If
appointment
is
made
to
an
unexpired
term,
that
appointment
shall
be
for
the
remainder
of
the
expired
term
of
office,
so
you
would
have
with
this
a
maximum
of
nine
years
possible.
Some
boards
have
said
that
they
would
like
to
perhaps
see
a
longer
term
or
a
greater
number
of
terms.
How
does
the
board
feel
about
that.
A
I
thought
the
original
was
one
year
term,
with
as
many
as
three.
A
G
Here's
the
bylaws
as
they
exist,
appointments
shall
be
made
for
a
term
of
three
years.
Appointees
shall
serve
at
the
pleasure
of
the
city
council
and
may
be
reappointed
to
one
successive
term.
Appointments
to
fill
any
vacancy
on
the
utility
advisory
board
shall
be
for
the
remainder
of
the
unexpired
term
of
office,
such
member
to
be
eligible
for
appointment
for
two
two
additional
full
terms.
A
But
I
still
am
a
little
concerned
or
confused.
When
I
came
on
on
board
the
committee.
It
said
officers
of
the
utility
advisory
board,
shelby
chairman
and
vice
chairman,
to
be
elected
from
the
membership
thereof.
The
officers
shall
be
elected
by
the
board
at
the
first
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
the
month
by
a
majority
boat
and
shall
serve
for
one
year
may
be
elected
for
not
more
than
three
consecutive.
G
A
No,
I
just
was
confused
between
the
members
and
the
officers.
Thank
you
happy.
D
Mr
chairman
yeah,
going
back
up
where
we
were
in
the
in
the
three
terms
in
three
years,
each
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
There
was
something
in
the
paper
I
think
the
the
local
daily
paper
in
the
last
week,
the
manager
city
managers
report
and
in
that
whether
it
was
there
or
whether
it
was
an
email
thing.
I
don't
recall
in
it.
There
were
vacancies
on
several
boards
and
all
of
them
used
exactly
the
same
language.
It
was
very
good,
clear
language
which
is
clearer
than
here.
D
D
G
F
D
F
G
We
have
when
we
have
someone
come
in
for
a
final
month.
The
way
we
announce
vacancies,
we
would
run
into
an
issue
there,
so
we
actually
tend
to
go
ahead
and
make
that
appointment
for
a
full
three
years.
G
F
F
Yeah,
no,
I
know
well
they
when
they,
it
all
depends
on,
as
you
point
out
how
they
initially
started.
If
they
appoint
someone
to
an
unexpired
term,
that's
all
they'll
be,
but
they
they
could
appoint
somebody
to
an
unexpired
term.
That's
halfway
through
and
started
as
a
new
three-year
term
and
then
it'd
be
fine.
E
D
I
I
have
no
problem
with
the
concept.
That's
that's
presented
here
and
trying
to
clean
it
up.
I
I
just
wondered
if
the
language
that
the
manager
had
used
in
print
in
the
paper
used
exactly
the
same
for
each
of
I
think
three
different
advisory
boards
if
it
seems
to
be
a
little
different
than
this,
if
that
could
be
adopted
or
something
like
it
universally
across
everything,
that's
all!
That's
all.
H
G
G
G
I
will
let
them
know
that
there
was
some
question
of
how
to
handle
the
unexpired
terms
that
are
fairly
close
to
the
end.
I
think.
F
It's
just
you
know,
I
think,
to
bill's
point
that
last
sentence
in
the
first
paragraph.
If
appointment
is
made
for
an
expired
term,
that's
really
irrelevant
if
you're,
not
if
you're
having
rolling
terms,
and
so,
but
if
you're,
if
you
have,
if
you
have
preset
staggered
terms,
then
yes,
you
would
always
be.
There
would
always
be
a
gap.
But
if
it's,
when
someone
comes
off,
someone
comes
on,
then
it's
a
little.
C
E
C
F
G
Another
large
change
that
we
made
in
this
beginning
portion
is
the
language
in
this
paragraph.
That's
all
new
members
shall
review
and
become
familiar
with
the
policies
and
procedures
containing
the
board
member
handbook
provided
by
the
city,
clerk's
office
and
members
further
agreed
to
attend
any
mandatory
training
session
provided
by
staff
and
adhered
to
city
council's
rules
of
conduct,
which
are
all
posted
on
that
wall.
G
After
that,
we
have
changed
the
term
from
chairman
to
chair
and
vice
chairman
to
vice
chair,
to
make
all
of
our
boards
and
committees
consistent
with
each
other.
Some
of
them
are,
some
of
them
are
not
currently
and
then
under
board
duties.
We
wanted
some
feedback
on
if
everybody
felt
that
the
duties
should
remain
as
they
are,
or
if
there
were
any
changes.
You
would
like
to
see.
G
F
F
So
I'm
just
I
never!
I
don't
know
that
it's
ever
happened,
but
I'm
assuming
when
it
says
you
know,
there's
a
public
petition
procedure
that
maybe
there's
a
the
proponent.
Maybe
someone
who's
had
a
billing
dispute
that
which
is
to
you
know,
petition
for
advice
before
it
goes
to
council.
G
D
Whoever
mentioned
building
procedures
any
of
these
things
do
we
have
uniform
administrative
procedures,
act
that
we
follow?
G
D
B
Yes,
chris
and
simeone
again
for
the
record,
so
billion
collections
has
a
certain
level
of
authority
and
then,
if
they
are
not
able
to
resolve
it,
they
can
come
to
me
as
the
finance
director.
So
I
have
a
little
bit
extra
authority
and
then,
if
I
still
can't
resolve
it,
we
bring
it
to
the
city
manager.
B
D
B
I
mean
that's
probably
true.
It
probably
would
just
go
right
to
council
if
it
got
to
city
manager
afterwards,
because
if
he
didn't
agree
would
say
my
decision
or
anything
and
or
if
he
did
agree
with
it,
and
it
still
wasn't
making
the
customer
happy
you
know,
but
we
do
try
it.
We
do
our
best
to
try
and
resolve
the
issues.
E
G
E
A
E
A
Comments
well,
I
have
one
question
about
that
same
item
there
with
the
review
utility,
drawings
and
specifications.
I'm
not
sure
that
the
board
here
is
really.
A
Should
be
much
involved
with
the
specifications,
with
the
exception
of
some
of
the
special
conditions
that
would
be
involved
with
them
specific
to
a
particular
project,
but
it
kind
of
gives
me
the
opinion
that
it's
to
be
reviewing
the
engineer's
drawings
and
specifications
which
they've
already
been
reviewed
by
the
by
the
utility
done
by
the
engineers
and
an
engineer
usually
has
their
own
perspective
on
a
a
project
and
not
necessarily
the
same
as
another
engineer
would
have
so
I'm
really
kind
of
questioning
whether
that
is
appropriate
to
me.
A
What
would
be
more
appropriate
would
be
to
be
involved
with
the
the
the
rfp
and
the
rfq
processes,
so
that
we
would
be
able
to
both
be
made
aware
when
pre-bids
would
be
held.
A
Interviews
would
be
held
with
the
engineers,
not
necessarily
to
have
an
impact
on
those
or
even
to
be
involved
just
to
be
able
to
to
listen
and
hear
what
the
the
concepts
would
be.
That
would
be
coming
from
the
and
questions
that
would
be
coming
from
the
the
contractors
during
those
pre-bid
meetings.
F
I
I
didn't
now
that
you
mention
it.
I
kind
of
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
h,
because,
obviously
that
that's
going
to
be
someone
that's
engineered
we're
not
really.
I
would
think
that
it
needs
to
be
modified
in
some
way
to
say
you
know,
review
them
as
requested
for
or
something
like
that,
because
it
kind
of
gives
the
impression
that
there's
a
level
of
appeal
or
review
by
us
that
changes
something
on
the
pre-bids
and
things
like
that.
I
think
that
may
be.
F
I
think
it
may
be
difficult
for
them
to
add
into
their
procurement
process
to
because
it
would
slow
it
down
to
when
we
had
meetings,
but
maybe
there's
a
possibility
of.
I
have
seen
procurement
procurement
policies
where
you
would
they
a
member
from
here
could
attend
the
selection
committee
to
report
back
or
something
like
that.
Maybe
that
would
be
something.
C
C
A
little
bit
in
the
weeds
a
little
bit,
you
may
want
to
possibly
review
the
the
preliminary
design
reports,
which
is
kind
of
talk,
more
conceptual,
which
mr
cofaro
I
think
did
early
on.
When
we
were
doing
the
wastewater
plan.
He
looked
at
some
of
the
engineering
and
made
some
had
some
questions
and
made
some
suggestions,
so
it
may
be
more
appropriate.
The
preliminary
design
report
we're
just
talking
more
of
concept
and
instead
of
the
actual
design,
and
we
can
make
all
those
available
to
you
when
we
get
them
and
then.
A
And
as
far
as
what
I
was
talking
about
with
the
rfps,
the
rfqs,
just
that
if
we
could
get
the
notification
they're
open
to
the
public,
and
so
it
would
be
a
case
of
being
able
to
to
attend
if
we
so
desired
more
to
find
out,
because
a
lot
of
questions
were
asked
at
those
and
generally
they
they
give
a
good
perspective
of
what
their
concerns
are.
We'll.
F
F
E
F
But
you
know
the
idea
would
be
two
you
sat
there.
Maybe
even
they
had
some
comments
and
then
that
came
comes
back
here.
I
think
it's
more
appropriate
to
have
one
person
relay
back
and
and
not
be
part
of
clearly
we're
no
one's
suggesting
we're
part
of
the
process
that
we
vote
on
the
score.
Oh
no
can.
D
E
Yes,
dave,
mr
chair,
to
your
point
about
you
know,
and
to
your
point
also
when
I
read
that
I
was
thinking
like
broad
picture
like
big
stroke
like
we
weren't,
going
to
sit
here
and
say
how
many
times
you
torque
down
the
mega
luck,
you
know
that
you
know
that's
not
the
purposes,
but
I
thought
that
it
would
be
like
if
we'd
be
totally
facetious,
that
if
now
the
you
know
the
you
know,
the
utility
department
or
the
council
decided
to
we're
now
going
to
get
our
water
source
from
a
gypsum
stack.
E
G
I
think,
once
upon
a
time,
the
board
was
much
more
technical
in
what
it
was
doing
and
what
the
experience
of
the
members
where
I
think
a
lot
of
them
had
background
where
they
felt
like
that
was
something
they
wanted
to
be
involved
in
and
should
be
involved
in
things
change
over
time.
I
don't
think
I've
seen
anything
like
that
happen.
Since
I've
been
with
the
city.
A
Well,
those
are
yeah.
If
I
may,
I
have
prepared
specifications
and
plans
for
projects
for
utilities,
and
I
can
tell
you
if
I
would
have
prepared
them
and
another
engineer
would
have
prepared
them.
They
would
not
necessarily
be
anywhere
consistent,
so
it
makes
no
sense
you're
hiring
an
engineer
for
their
for
their
ability
to
do
the
the
the
job.
A
A
Then
I
think
the
the
key
elements
are
just
those
few
items,
the
rfp,
the
rfq,
the
pre-bid
meeting
being
aware
of,
what's
out
what,
when
they're
going
to
be
held,
and
that's
all
in
the
rfp
and
the
rfqs
as
to
the
other
timing
in
the
interview
that
would
be
also
right.
A
little.
G
More
abroad
than
like
review
the
status
of
utilities,
projects
that
way,
it's
very
adaptable
on
what.
A
F
I
I
think
you
could
remove
it
all
together
and
use
that
catch-all
of
g
to
bring
things
back
and-
and
I
can
honestly
I
I
completely
agree
with
the
chair-
that
you
know
we're
not
here
to
weigh
in
on
one
engineer's
design
or
another,
but
there
could
be
a
situation
I'll
take
a
hypothetical.
F
Let's
say
that
it
was
an
open
question
in
the
charlotte
park,
expansion
about
vacuum
versus
versus
gravity,
and
you
had
people
in
the
community
and
all
these
questions
you
know,
I
think
the
city
and
the
engineers
are
selected
would
would
probably
also
like
the
like,
I
say,
cover,
but
they
would,
like
the
you
know,
the
buy-in
of
advisory
from
time
to
time
on
which
which
choice
when
they
have
that
kind
of
choice
to
move
forward
with.
So
I
I
think
I
catch
all
my
work
and
I
don't.
I
don't
think
you
need
h.
H
But
george
one
thing
that
we
have
done
for
the
last
as
far
as
I
can
remember,
there's
nothing
in
board
duties.
As
far
as
review
of
the
budget
recommendations,
review
of
rate
increases
things
like
that,
I
think
that's
important
enough
where
it
should
be
outlined
separately
instead
of
underneath
a
catch-all.
A
H
The
rest
of
the
board
agrees
I'd
like
to
see
some
just
some
language
into
that
effect.
F
G
All
right
I've
got
that
noted
and
then,
after
any
more
comments
on
board
duties,
so
was
consensus
of
the
board,
then
to
remove
h
entirely.
A
G
Wonderful.
Thank
you,
after
that.
Most
of
what
happened
in
our
review
of
the
bylaws
was
just
reorganizing
information
that
already
existed
see.
We
had
added
a
tiny
bit
of
language
to
the
voting
requirements,
though,
where
we
added
a
very
brief
statement
about
what
a
conflict
of
interest
actually
is,
and
if
anyone
ever
has
a
question
about
that,
we
would
be
more
than
happy
to
send
you
the
statute
that
details
it
in
its
entirety.
H
I
have
one
kind
of
nagging
thought
here
goes
back
to
the
on
section
number,
one
where
we
talk
about
residents
of
puna,
gorda
and
customers
of
the
puna
gorda
utility
service
area.
H
G
H
F
I
think
that's
an
interesting,
that's
an
interesting
dynamic
because
under
the
conflict
of
interest
it
let's
say
that
someone
got
on
and
was
just
trying
to
use
the
position
to
get
out
of
a
dispute
they
had
with
the
city.
I
think
that
would
prevent
them
from
doing
it,
but
the
situation
where
maybe
they're
involved
in
litigation
with
the
city
certainly
does.
F
Is
does
the
city
have
a
and
the
rules
and
procedures
for
its
boards
have
any
kind
of
general
catch-alls
about
about
the
status
of
of
their
members,
something
that
would
address
sodority's
comments.
G
We
have
that
they
serve
at
the
will
of
council
and,
if
councils
that
they
should
no
longer
serve,
then
they
could
be
removed.
I've
got
a
question
for
kristin
about
customers.
Would
a
developer
be
considered
a
customer,
or
would
it
only
be
people
who
have
accounts?
That
was
our
attention
like
residence
or
a
business
account
well.
B
A
B
F
H
A
Does
anyone
have
anything
to
bring
up
nothing
for
me,
if
not
open
to
staff
comments.
A
I
have
one
from
the
previous
of
course,
once
again,
mr
adams,
not
being
here,
but
maybe
either
mr
leonard
or
mr
pavlos
can
answer.
Mr
adams
recalled
the
previous
discussion
regarding
mr
brandon
mooney
with
the
county,
who
had
offered
to
come
here
and
has
there
been
anything
originally,
it
was
to
be
for
hopefully
for
the
august
meeting,
which
of
course
was
cancelled.
This
was
the
count
this.
A
C
A
Okay
would
if
he
could
notify
us
he'll.
A
And
if
that
would
be
for
the
the
next
meeting,
that
would
I
thought.
A
C
A
Opening
it
up
for
citizen
comments,
any
citizens
here
that
have
anything
to
state
with
that.
If
I
have
a
motion
for
the
meeting
to
be
adjourned,
second,
all
in
favor
aye
aye
posed.
Thank
you.