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Punta Gorda Isles Canal Advisory Committee Meeting 05-16-2022
B
B
B
All
right,
we
will
let
the
record
reflect
that
all
members
of
the
committee
are
present.
That
is
so.
We
don't
have
to
take
a
roll
call
and
to
remind
the
committee
that
the
july
meeting
is
cancelled,
so
do
not
come.
We
will
not
be
here
the
june
20th
meeting
mr
dye's
already
indicated
he
will
not
be
present.
Anyone
else
now
know
that
they
will
not
be
present.
No
everybody
thinks
they're
going
to
be
here.
Do
we
know
whether
we
have
any
business
for
the
june
20th
meeting?
We.
C
B
June
20th
january,
we
would
then
come
to
public
comments,
and
the
recording
secretary
is
even
there's
only
one
public
member
here,
I'm
going
to
read
this
for
your
benefit
into
the
record
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
address
the
board
should
use
the
guest
podium
speak
directly
into
the
microphone
and
begin
by
stating
their
name
for
the
record.
Each
person
has
three
minutes
to
speak.
You
may
not
share
your
minutes
if
you
wish
to
speak.
B
B
Please
contact
staff
with
any
remaining
questions
following
conclusion
of
the
meeting
and
a
copy
of
any
supporting
documents
displayed
during
the
meeting
must
be
provided
to
the
recording
secretary.
These
documents
will
become
part
of
the
permanent
record
and
will
be
retained
by
the
city
clerk's
office.
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C
B
B
C
C
B
C
Believe
she's
just
there's
plenty
to
do
so,
even
if
we,
if
she
budgeted
out
two
years
of
projects,
we've
got
plenty
of
work
to
be
able
to
to
do
that.
So
we
like
in
pat
years
past
you
just
she'll,
develop
a
schedule
and
then
once
the
budget's
finalized
we
can
add
or
take
away
from
that
and
then,
as
as
we
move
through
the
season
like
we've,
had
a
failure
or
two
failures
this
year.
C
D
C
A
C
E
E
C
C
B
A
B
B
One
thing
that
does
occur
to
me
and
I'm
not
sure
why
I
haven't
thought
of
this
before
the
issues
that
have
come
up
in
the
past,
about
particularly
the
end
of
canal
situations
for
narrow.
We
have
no
idea
how
big
these
are
without
looking
them
up
correct
and
we
we
have
had
from
time
to
time
the
issue
of
new
installations
coming
in.
That
would
perhaps
be
a
hazard
to
or
create
a
difficult
situation
for
a
vacant
lot
next
door
to
put
a
dock
in
or
a
boat
lift
in.
C
For
the
record,
brian
clemens
public
works
just
so
you
know
that
conversation
has
been
initiated
with
legal.
Where
I'm
looking
at
what
avenues
do
we
have
for
reviewing
those?
Because
currently,
I
think
they
come
in?
They
fit
all
the
code.
So
I
don't
really
know
that
there's
a
way
to
object,
but
we're
looking
at
what
our
options
are
and
how
we
may
handle
those
in
the
future.
Okay,.
A
A
When
you
look
at
it,
you
just
imagine
the
only
solution
that
this
other
person
has
is
to
put
something
like
we've
seen
constantly
this
new
dock,
the
boat
lift
it's
going
to
be
unusable
and
why
that
was
allowed
to
go
in
is
I
mean
I
guess
if
the
customer
wants
it?
That's
fine,
but
there's
been
no
thought
to
what's
it
mean
later
on,
because
what's
going
to
happen,
is
we're
going
to
see
that
again
when
we
have
a
special
permit
to
put
this?
A
You
know
this
doc
and
boat,
lift
in
the
30-foot
space
and
the
guy
next
door
is
going
to
come
in
and
say
hey.
If
you
do
that,
I
can't
get
in
my
in
my
boat
lift.
Well,
you
should
have
thought
that
about
that
at
the
beginning,
but
you
know
we
still
have
this.
This
hazard
to
navigation
and
we've
seen
that
as
an
issue
in
the
past
and
we'll
end
up
seeing
this
one
as
an
issue
again,
I
betcha.
C
Now,
wouldn't
it
I
mean
from
your
experience:
wouldn't
it
some
of
these
folks
that
are
coming
down
they're,
not
educated
in
regards
to
what
would
fit
there,
so
it
doesn't
that
go
back
on
the
person
selling
them
that
lift
like
hey,
you
know,
don't
sell
a
lift
that
puts
them
in
a
in
a
tight
spot
in
the
future,
even
though
it's
an
easy
sell
yeah
I
mean,
because
some
of
these
folks
may
have
no
idea,
you
know
hey.
I
just
wanted
something
to
put
my
boat
in
the
air
yeah.
A
Because
these
this
was
obviously
a
regular
building,
permit
wasn't
special
from
it,
so
engineering
never
sees
any
of
that
stuff
at
all,
and-
and
I
really
don't
think
the
building
department
should
be
or
is
in
a
position
to
be
a
consultant
on
what
you
can
do
and
what
you
can't
do.
That's
that's
probably
beyond
the
scope
of
their
responsibilities,
but
clearly
contractors
should
have
a
little
bit
of
responsibility
for
leading
their
customers
in
the
right
direction
on
this.
But
right
now
we
don't
have
anything
that
encourages
or
enforces
that.
A
B
B
A
C
The
I
just
mentioned
earlier,
the
june
20th
hans
wilson
associate
presentation,
tom's
going
to
come
up
and
present
that
final
feasibility
study
for
us.
So
we
can
look
at
all
the
details
of
that
of
that
one
in
here
here
and
discuss,
I
guess
the
project
with
him
and
that's
the
only
one
really
active
on
that
capital
improvement
projects.
C
C
Master
permanent
agreement,
yeah
we're
I'm
still
working
on
seawalling
working
with
the
national
fisheries
services
and
army
corps,
trying
to
get
the
permit
issued
the
dredging
one
it's
not
on
here
april
or
no
may
4th.
We
submitted
additional
information
to
fwc
and
fdep
for
the
dredging,
so
hopefully
that
one's
continuing
on
down
the
line
and
then
our
lashley,
marina,
submerged
land
lease
was
actually
recorded
with
charlotte
county
clerk
so
that
one's
officially
done
as
well.
F
F
So
now
we
just
want
to
check
in
with
you
to
see
what
you
would
like
us
to
move
forward
with
to
present
to
council.
So
we
have
given
the
audience
the
the
community,
the
150
dollar
assessment
recommendation
that
originally
you
guys
were
talking
about
again.
We
also
included
the
additional
of
the
staff
number.
F
F
B
F
B
B
A
So
I'm
concerned
that
we're
that
we're
not
addressing
the
the
oldest
of
the
sea
walls
as
quickly
as
we
should
and
I'm
concerned
that
we're
we're
paying
down
our
reserves
and
not
replenishing
them
as
as
quickly
as
we
had
and
the
the
other
thing
that
I
learned
by
attending.
The
meetings
was
that
there
is
a
surprising.
A
A
For
the
most
part,
I
don't
want
to
say
it
was
shouted
down,
but
I
think
it
was
overwhelmed
by
the
the
consensus
that
we
do
need
to
pay
some
attention
to
to
the
repairs
of
our
sea
walls,
and
it's
not
a
big
expense
to
do
that
and
we're
way
better
off
having
this
kind
of
a
system
where
the
the
sea
walls
are
owned
by
the
the
city
and
they're
responsible
for
the
maintenance
of
them.
And
so
when
I
listen
to
that,
I'm
wondering
what
does
the
150
dollars
do
for
us.
A
F
And
so
we
basically
are
pretty
much
almost
neutral
as
it
comes
to
the
reserves,
so
we
use
up
a
little
bit
more
because
again
we
were
trying
to
get
as
much
done
in
the
program
and
when
we
look
at
the
reserves,
it's
it's
towards
the
end
of
the
five-year
pro
forma
where
the
reserves
get
low
and
again
it's
just
more
for
planning
when
we're
looking
that
far
out.
But
we
would
obviously,
as
finance,
come
back
to
you
as
we
were.
F
F
So,
yes,
it
does
show
negative,
but
that's
because
it's
a
plan
used
for
a
project
but
as
you
do
get
out
in
2020,
six
and
20
27
is
when
you're
going
to
want
to
say:
hey,
we'll
need
to
increase
it.
Just
because
again,
our
pro
forma
says
has
some
assumptions
that
certain
costs
are
going
to
go
up
three
percent
per
year.
Some
are
going
to
go
up
four
percent
per
year.
Some
are
five
percent.
A
A
C
C
So
we're
talking
150
right
and
so
instead
of
150
580
is
the
number
and
then,
of
course
it
goes
up
by
the
three
percent
each
year
and
that's
in
order
to
get
all
the
wall.
That's
original
out
of
the
system
by
2040.,
not
to
say
we
have
to,
but
that's
just
the
the
professional's
opinion.
Our
consultant's
opinion
on
you
know
that's
what
we
should
shoot
for
so
obviously
we're
not
we're
not
going
to
get
there
at
150.
A
And
what's
happening
here
is
that
if
you,
if
you
don't
go
with
that
578
and
I'm
not
saying
or
the
580
or
whatever
we're
talking
about,
I'm
not
saying
I'm
not
promoting
that,
but
the
longer
we
put
that
off
that
number
in
the
bottom
right
corner
of
the
chart
gets
bigger
and
bigger
and
bigger.
Let's
be
a
big
bogey
at
some
point.
C
C
C
C
C
We
are
back
down
to
29.
So
it's
weird,
there
was
a
a
bad
year,
those
two
good
years,
seven
or
68
and
71
for
some
reason
that
wall's
hanging
on
really
nicely
but
then
in
72.
That
was
down
to,
like
I
said,
29
remaining
73
23
remaining
in
our
big
one,
which
is
the
most
of
our
system.
1978.
We
got
65
percent
remaining
and
then
we've
got
just
a
couple
of
tiny
little
segments
from
the
later
years.
80
87,
but
that's
only
24
remaining
of
that
one
as
well.
B
B
In
order
to
do
that
proactively,
then,
with
that
philosophy
in
mind
is
perhaps
what
we
should
be
putting
forth
what
we
should
recommend
and
then
it
shifts
to
the
council
who
said
because
they're
the
ones
who
are
going
to
they
have
to
agree
to
this
and
they're
the
ones
that
will
have
to
take
the
slings
and
arrows
of
the
total
charge.
But
what
I
heard
was
less
concern
about
that,
because
nobody
wants
their
seawall
to
fail.
B
So
what
I
would
suggest
is
that
we
think
about
as
a
as
a
committee
taking
the
position
that
we
will
be
as
proactive
as
possible.
Trusting
the
the
numbers,
the
the
kind
of
pre
projections
that
have
been
shown
here
and
to
recommend
an
increase
based
on
that,
based
on
what
you've
done,
which
in
fact
is
in
inflation,
which
is
real.
B
And
hopefully
it
will
not
be
there
and
not
everything
is
affected
in
the
same
way.
So
if,
if
that's
at
least
a
philosophic
comment,
it
leads
to
a
a
recommendation
which
then
the
council
will
have
to
deal
with
with
respect
to.
Can
we
stand
it?
Can
we
put
a
budget
forth,
that's
going
to
have
what
would
be
roughly
a
1200
assessment
rate
starting
now.
I
also
heard
comments
at
least
one
comment,
and
this
is
certainly
not
a
referendum
because-
and
it
should
my
opinion,
it
should
not
ever
go
to
a
referendum.
They'll
vote.
B
The
council
members
out.
That's
the
referendum
that
knowing
what's
going
to
happen
down
the
road
is
preferable
to
not
knowing,
and
so
if
we
say,
philosophically
that
it's
going
to
be
1200
this
year
and
the
plan
is
to
go
to
1300
the
next
year
or
whatever.
The
numbers
are
that's
better
than
in
being
in
the
dark
and
also
worrying
about
my
seawall.
A
The
big
bucks
for
is
to
you
know
to
to
do
that,
and
it's
up
to
council
then
to
take
the
recommendations
and
weigh
all
the
other
considerations
that
we're
not
burdened
with,
but
that
they
are
and
for
them
to
make
the
ultimate
decision,
but
I
think
we're
armed
with
the
information
that
we
receive
from
staff,
we're
also
armed
with
the
knowledge
that
we're
responsible
for
you
know
doing
all
of
this,
and
I
I
agree
with
you.
I
think
we
have
a
responsibility
to
keep
move
this
kick.
C
And
then
the
chart
I've
got
on
the
screen.
There
shows
you.
I
mean,
thank
goodness
for
the
storms,
not
to
say
that
that
was
you
know
a
good
thing
or
bad
thing,
but
45
47
and
a
half
percent
of
what
we've
replaced
to
date
has
been
due
to
storm
damage
and
that
was
certifiable
storm
damage
with
you
know
major
events.
C
So
if
you
know
we
didn't
have
those
those
storms
that
came
through,
we
would
be
that
much
further
behind,
but
not
to
say
that
next
time
we
have
one
and
we
lose
more
wall,
there's
no
guarantee
that
fema
is
going
to
come
through
with
a
payment
and
walls
that
were
damaged
by
fema
prior,
as
kristin
mentioned
at
the
last
meeting.
If
we
replace
walls
with
fema
dollars,
we
do
not
ever
get
that
replaced
again
with
fema
dollars.
B
C
F
C
B
Well
then,
I'll
continue
to
rattle
on
it.
It
strikes
me
that
whatever
that
number
is,
if,
if
it
gets
through,
counsel,
has
ramifications
for
our
capacity
and
that
question
came
up.
Does
the
contractor
have
the
capacity
to
do
this
and
kathy
did
provide
a
response?
I
don't
think
we
have
an
answer,
but
there
are
some
additional
expenses
that
will
come
so
you
haven't
factored.
B
Yet
all
of
those
kinds
of
things
we
may
have
to
go
back
into
post,
irma
mode
and
getting
more
than
one
contractor
to
come
in,
and
this
could
be
a
sizable
enough
contract
that
somebody
from
the
other
coast
or
from
pensacola
or
wherever
might
be
willing
to
come
in
for
a
couple
of
years
and
lend
a
hand
to
get
this
done
so
capacity-wise.
We
might
be
able
to
do
it
if
we
have
the
budget
to
afford
it,
and
so
in
my
mind,
if
we're
making
a
recommendation.
F
F
And
secondly,
I
I
just
want
to
make
a
second
caution
is
that
when
we
did
go
to
the
community,
we
provided
what
the
board
was
recommending
at
that
time,
the
hundred
and
fifty
dollars.
So
obviously,
if
you
want
to
change
your
mind
on
that
of
what
you
want
to
move
forward
with,
we
can
do
that,
but
you
may
have
more.
F
People
calling
in
or
you
know
when
they
get
their
trim
notice.
Thinking
like,
oh,
you
said
150,
so
it
might
be
something
that
you
want
to
do
maybe
a
little
bit
less
this
year
and
then
do
more
after
another
budget
discussion
next
year
recommending
more
and
vaping
up
more.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
caution
you
on
that,
because
that's
what
they
heard
at
the
meeting
so.
A
Maybe
we
can
actually
create
intent
to
increase
the
the
tempo
of
the
replacement
when
we
can
do
it,
throwing
a
bunch
of
extra
money
into
it.
Right
now
may
not
actually
help,
because
we
don't
have
the
capacity
to
move
forward.
It
would
be
helpful
to
the
reserve,
but
we
don't
have
the
capacity
to
really
ramp
up
the
seawall
business
quite
that
much,
but
our
intent
is
to
continue
to
do
that
and
to
continue
to
put
more.
A
B
Yeah,
I
guess
on
this
point.
This
is
where
I
would
put
that
line
between
what
our
responsibility
is
and
what
the
council's
responsibility.
If
our
responsibility
is
to
proactively
replace
sea
walls
before
they
have
a
reasonable
chance
of
failure,
then
we
should
be
recommending
an
aggressive
number
and
if,
for
capacity
reasons
for.
B
The
trim
notice
reaction
reasons
whatever
it
is,
that's
councils
let
in
their
wisdom
let
them
decide
that.
Okay,
maybe
this
time
around
we're
going
to
do
a
little
less
than
that
much
as
they
did
last
year,
because
they
did
not
take
the
bite
that
we
were
recommending.
Well,
they've
got
that
option
and
and
we're
going
to
get
another
crack
at
this
every
year
for
the
foreseeable
future,
one
way
or
the
other.
B
C
If
you
figure,
I
got
what
the
first
wall
replacement
was
1994,
so
they
ran
along
pretty
smooth
for
the
first
30
years,
and
you
know
that's
why
the
assessments
were
low
for
all
those
years
and
stuff
and
and
those
were
the
earlier
years,
those
were
purely
reactive
walls.
Foil
down
walls
got
fixed,
it
wasn't,
but
when
we
started
doing
the
seawall
assessment
10
years
or
so
ago,
and
we
started
being
more
proactive
about,
let's
find
the
bad
segments
and
get
them
out
of
the
system.
C
B
Recalling
some
of
the
comments
last
year
as
the
assessment
was
under
consideration,
when
we
dropped
back
from
six
head
the
prior
year,
it
dropped
back
from
650
to
550.
One
of
the
council
comments
was
we
never
should
have
backed
up?
We
should
have
kept
that
in
there
because
we're
going
to
need
it
and
perhaps
in
hindsight,
going
back
to
maybe
1979
or
19
whenever.
C
B
C
And
that's
you
know
it's
been
nice
if
they
slowly
built
the
subdivision
up,
so
we
could
slowly
replace
it
as
needed,
but
unfortunately
you
know
you
throw
all
the
infrastructure
in
at
one
time.
The
clock
starts
right,
then
so
yeah
eventually
you're
up
against
that
wall,
where
all
of
it
is
due
to
be
replaced
and
the
funding
hasn't
been
built
for
it.
B
And
I
guess
not
to
muddy
the
water,
but
if
I
have
to
build
a
thousand
cars-
and
I
have
such
capacity
I'll
build
a
thousand
cars,
but
if
somebody
comes
in
and
says
no
bill,
2000
there's
going
to
be
a
few
more
failures
in
that
2000.
So
in
these
big
peak
years,
where
people
are
building,
perhaps
just
above
capacity,
maybe
there
are
some
shortcuts.
B
D
I
I
have
a
question:
it
did:
haven't
never
gone
through
this
process
before,
but
is
it
prudent
for
us
recognizing
that
that
we
need
this
thousand
or
twelve
hundred
dollars
in
order
to
to
do
the
job
right
that
we
we
tell
city
council
that
this
is
what
we
need
in
order
to
do
it
right?
Okay,
but
let's,
let's
recommend
that
we
start
off
with
150
or
200
okay,
each
year
until
we
get
to
this
1200
number.
A
D
These
numbers
are
going.
These
additional
assessment
required
numbers
are
going
to
change
drastically,
okay
and
so,
but
if,
if
you
take
the
approaches,
this
is
what's
needed.
We
let's,
let's
recognize
that.
That's
what
we!
This
is
the
goal
we
need
to
reach,
and
this
is
how
we're
going
to
get
there
right
and
without
saying
you
know
it's
black
and
white:
it's
either!
You
know
it's
either
this
or
that
and
there's
no
in
between.
D
B
A
Yeah,
so
we
just
get
farther
and
farther
behind
on
this.
The
longer
we
you
know
the
longer
we
delay
it.
I
guess
I
guess
I
go
back
to
what
our
esteemed
chairman
has.
You
know
has
pointed
out
in
the
fact
that
that
we're
the
ones
that
are
responsible
for
coming
up
with
making
the
recommendation
to
the
city
council
for
how
to
best
take
care
of
our
canal
system
and
and
that's
our
job-
it's
not
so
much
it's
not
to
worry
about
how
palatable
it
is.
A
A
So
as
as
difficult
as
this,
is
it's
not
as
difficult
as
farther
down
the
road?
Two
three
years
from
now
when
we
realize
that
we've
got
a
that,
we
have
to
catch
up
going
to
council
and
say
well,
we
should
have
done
578
or
580
here
a
couple
years
ago,
and
then
we
should
have
followed
that
up
with
this,
but
because
we
didn't
do
that
now
we
really
need
to
do
800
or
something
like
that
to
try
and
figure
up,
and
I
think
that
is
that's
us
shirking
our
responsibilities.
C
B
B
C
C
And
you've
got
some
off
years.
You
know
where,
after
the
major
spike,
when
that's
all
the
original
wall
timing
out
and
then
you've
got
some,
you
know
some
pretty
good
stretches
of
some.
You
know
10
15
years
of
not
much
timing
out
at
that
point
and
then
another
spike
and
then
timing
out
and
then
another
spike.
So
it's
you
know
what
happens
during
those
years.
Do
you
just
stack
to
reserves
knowing
that
okay,
the
next
wave
is
gonna
happen.
C
B
A
F
C
C
C
That's
the
most
at
risk,
so
let's
get
them
out
of
the
system
before
they
pull
other
wall
down.
So
that's
kind
of
the
our
proactive
approach
now
for
the
last
several
years
and
we've
only
gotten
better
each
year,
especially
with
the
addition
of
the
taylor
study
that
helped
us
add
in
several
other
factors
that
we
had
not
yet
had
in
there
before.
C
That's
my
understanding
yes
and
taylor,
the
taylor
representative.
When
we
met
after
the
pgi
meeting,
he
said
the
90-year
life.
Well,
he
probably,
I
guess
he's
there.
You
know
it's
that's
for
the
steel
and
optimum
conditions,
but
the
whole
system,
all
together,
that's
a
different
thing.
So
that's
why
they
brought
that
life
span
down.
C
B
C
B
E
E
C
F
C
Yeah
and
if
if
the
funding
does
come
through
kind
of
like
mr
court,
I
believe
mentioned
last
meeting,
you
know
we
will
have
to
staff
up,
I
mean
kathy,
can't
pour
what
we've
got
panel
wise
now
so
or
maybe
earlier
in
this
meeting.
So
all
of
those
other
costs
are
going
to
start
chipping
away
at
the
linear
footage
of
wall
that
we
can
replace.
C
F
B
Let
council
deal
with
all
the
ramifications
of
that
and
I
don't
mean
to
belittle
that,
but
there
may
be
other
factors
that
they
do
have
to
consider
and
if
we
can't
meet
the
the
goal
of
producing
new
seawall,
at
least
we
are
creating
reserves
so
that
when
we
can
we
can.
We
can
be
ready
to
go
and
that's
within
mind
that
in
another
two
or
three
years,
we're
going
to
have
a
potentially
huge
number
of
sea
walls
that
will
become
obsolete.
B
D
It
to
me,
it
just
seems
like
all
or
nothing
is,
is-
is
really
kind
of
a
extreme
position
to
take
that's
all
and
and
but
you
know,
I
think
it's
it's
important
to
us
to
to
or
for
us
to
tell
city
council
1200
is
the
amount
that
it
ought
to
be.
Okay,
if
you
do
that,
we're
going
to
be
able
to
meet
our
goal-
okay
and
then,
but
but
perhaps
we
don't
need
to
get
there
black
and
white.
D
That's
all
that's
then,
and
you
know
looking
at
these
numbers
listening
to
the
you
know,
I
was
at
at
the
meeting
there
on
the
12th.
I
was
I
I
got
the
same
sense.
You
did
the
the
the
people
recognize
that
the
costs
are
coming
okay
and
they
like
the
fact
that
the
city
is
involved,
okay
and
that
the
city
has
a
real
plan
for
it.
Okay,
so
telling
them
this.
C
A
I
I
think
it's
important
to
to
carry
the
message
to
city
council,
so
they
hear
it.
If
we,
if
we
know
if
we
know
that
the
580
or
the
1200,
whatever
number
we
want
to
use,
is
in
fact
what
it
should
be.
Then
I
think
it's
our
obligation
to
take
that
to
city
council
and
that's
the
message
and
then
they
can
do
with
it.
Whatever
they
want,
they
can
reduce
it.
They
can
make
it
more
palatable.
A
They're
not
going
to
make
a
decision
on
this
in
isolation.
City
council
is
they're
going
to
wear
gary
out
here
between
now
and
time.
They
have
to
make
that
decision,
because
they're
responsible
enough
also
to
make
sure
that
they're
doing
the
right
thing.
So
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
to
make
that
call
it
it's
a
message
that
can't
be
diluted.
If
we
recommend
something
that's
less
than
that,
we
you
know
we
dilute
that
that
1200
message.
D
E
B
B
Yeah,
I
think
we
have
a
consensus,
then
that
that's
what
we
would
go
with,
plus
with
all
of
the
conversation
about
that
and
with
the
notion
that
the
plan
going
forward
is
that
there
will
be
inflation,
driven
and
additional
review
driven
adjustments
necessary,
but
that
we
believe
that
this
is
what
is
necessary
to
avoid
catastrophic
failures,
et
cetera.
You
know
that
whole
thing,
so
is
that
enough
christian.
F
A
And
just
from
my
own
point,
first
of
all,
I'm
good
with
that.
Okay,
but
I
also
support
what
you
know
where
ron
was
going
with
this
conversation
to
understanding
it's
really
not
our
call
to
mitigate
this
in
any
way-
and
my
guess
is
council
will
do
something
with
it,
but
I
think
the
message
that
council
needs
to
get
from
the
canal
advisory
committee,
the
advisory
being
the
operative
word.
There
is
advising
them
that
this
is
what's
required.
C
B
I
I'm
my
personal
view
is
that
if,
because
of
the
as
as
was
pointed
out,
that
there
was
a
different
number
presented
on
may
12th,
is
that
there's
still
time
for
that?
There
will
be
hearings
on
the
budget,
so
there
will
be
public
hearing
possible
and
comment
from
the
public
and
again
the
the
council
is
the
one
who
actually
finalizes
the
number.
So
I
don't
think
we
have
to
get
it
right
or
our
need
for
public
input
is
a
little
different
than
councils
need.
Yeah.
F
F
So
they
get
your
input
then
in
july,
is
when
they
have
to
decide
so
they'll
get
the
information
they
might
give
us
direction
and
then,
in
july
they
have
to
decide
what's
going
to
go
on
the
trim
so
like
the
minimum
that
that
number
that
goes
on
the
trim
means
that
in
september
you
cannot
go
above
that
number.
They
could
always
bring
it
down,
so
they
may
have.
They
may
put
it
out
there
and
see
what
the
feelers
are
and
then
get
the
calls.
F
B
As
we've
said
about
a
number
of
things,
communication
is
critical
in
some
of
these
things.
If
there
were
100
people
in
the
meeting
on
may
12th,
there
were
5
100
properties
that
weren't
represented,
and
so
whatever
story
could
be
presented
and
can
be
amended
to
pick
up.
The
the
decision
today
is
important
and,
however,
that
it's
a
big
number
and
to
get
that
out,
I
would
add,
to
the
fee
recommendation.
I
would
add
a
recommendation
to
pull
out
all
the
stops
on
communication
of
the
story,
as
well
as
the
numbers.