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Regular City Council Meeting June 7, 2023
A
B
Let
us
pray
Lord,
Our,
God,
creator
of
Heaven
and
Earth.
We
thank
you
for
your
holy
word.
That
is,
our
instruction
manual
for
life,
help
us
to
apply
it
to
our
lives.
Each
and
every
day,
Lord
I
ask
that
you
bless
this
city.
Council
May.
The
decisions
they
make
here
today
be
pleasing
to
you
and
the
people
of
Punta
Gorda
Lord
bless
all
that
are
here
in
this
chamber
today
and
the
families
they
represent.
B
A
A
A
A
C
Good
morning,
Chief
Pam
Davis
Punta
Gorda
Police
Department,
just
a
little
bit
of
background
about
Kim,
first
of
all,
another
great
hire
within
the
last
five
years.
So
we're
very
proud
of
her
and
very
happy
to
have
her.
She
served
as
a
911
dispatcher
for
13
years
back
in
Illinois,
but
she
began
her
service
as
a
Punta
Gorda
records
specialist
in
June
of
2018.
C
She
is
instrumental
in
where
we
came
up
with
a
scam,
Public
Safety
announcement
because
we're
not
reaching
everybody
when
it
comes
to
just
social
media.
So
Kim
said:
hey
we're
not
reaching
everybody.
We
need
to
do
something
a
little
different.
Can
we
look
at
radio
and
TV
and
and
put
that
together
for
us?
So
thank
you
very
much
Kim
and
on
a
personal
note,
she
loves
to
sing
karaoke.
So
can
we
get
you
to
thank
him?
A
And
now
we
have
a
very
special
award
that
the
recipient
knows
nothing
about
and
I'll
ask
council
member
dreyberg
to.
Please
join
me
down
here.
For
this
we
have
a
gentleman
who
serves
on
our
Punta
Gorda
Police
Department,
who
is
a
real
unsung
hero.
This
gentleman
has
never
asked
for
recognition.
This
gentleman
has
gone
above
and
beyond
the
Call
of
Duty
many
times
throughout
his
life.
A
A
A
He's
assisted
the
Special
Olympics
for
the
Department
and
one
of
the
greatest
things
that
well
two
of
the
greatest
things
that
this
gentleman
has
done
for
the
city.
He
is,
he
is
he.
He
heads
up
the
Dare
program,
which
is
drug
abuse,
resistance,
education
for
Sally,
Jones,
Elementary
School,
and
he
has
done
this
with
his
whole
heart
for
nine
years
for
Sally
Jones,
and
it
is
a
phenomenal
program
and
we've
had
the
absolute
pleasure
of
participating
at
the
graduation
ceremony
all
the
years.
That
Joe
has
done.
A
So
it's
very
exciting
for
me
I!
This
is
something
I
started
when
I
became
mayor
a
couple
years
ago
and
we've
only
given
it
out
to
three
other
people,
but
I
feel
very
strongly.
That
Joe
is
a
great
Ambassador
for
the
city
and
we're
very,
very
honored
to
have
him
on
our
police
force
and
serving
in
this
city
and
helping
our
residents.
So
if
we
can
go
take
pictures.
E
D
Very,
very
unexpected
I,
don't
you
know
when
I
do
things
honestly,
you
know,
first
of
all,
it's
an
honor
okay,
but
when
I
do
things,
do
it
with
the
heart
type
of
thing?
Okay,
how
is
raised
my
mom
dad
how
they
raised
me
and
the
job
I've
been
doing
this
all
my
whole
adult
life
I
get
worried,
sometimes
when
just
I'm
in
a
drop
program.
Hopefully
we
can
extend
that
drop
program
because
I
don't
know
what
I
would
do
I've
done
this
on
my
whole
life.
You
know
and
I
don't
expect
this.
D
C
I'll
just
add
that
there's
not
another
person
that
I
know
that
has
such
a
big
heart
and
does
everything
for
this
community
and
I
think
everybody
everybody
I
run
into
says:
oh
Joe
Angelia,
you
know
officer
Joe
right,
everybody
knows
them.
That's
because
he's
out
in
the
community
doing
this
stuff
on
a
regular
basis
and
I
can't
say
enough,
he's
he's
the
one
that
we
call
when
we
need
somebody
to
come.
Fill
in
he'll,
always
say
yes
and
and
he's
been
great
awesome
Joe,
proud
of
you,
don't
go.
I
Good
morning,
Justin
Naval
for
the
record
I'm
one
of
Joe's
supervisors.
So
when
he
says
it's
from
the
heart,
he
truly
means
it's
from
the
heart.
That
is
not
just
lip
service
so,
along
with
all
of
those
special
things
that
he
does
for
for
the
city
a
couple
years
ago,
he
came
to
me,
and
he
said:
hey
I
want
to
start
a
program,
the
schools,
the
elementary
schools.
They
have
programs
for
shoes
and
for
socks
and
for
clothes,
and
he
said
I
want
to
start
a
program
for
undergarments.
I
So
he
started
taking
a
collection
because
that's
a
big
thing
in
elementary
school,
so
he
started
taking
a
collection
and
he
didn't
do
it
for
this
city
and
obviously
we're
restricted
here
jurisdictionally
to
the
city,
but
he
did
it
for
the
entire
County.
So
he
collected
enough
undergarments
to
give
to
the
nurses
of
every
Elementary
School
in
the
county.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
that,
because
that's
just
another
program-
and
that's
just
another
thing-
that
Joe
does
on
a
regular
basis
without
having
to
be
asked.
So
congratulations
Joe
on
your
recognition.
A
J
However,
the
word
of
God
is
still
being
preached
on
the
corner
of
DuPont
and
Virginia,
and
whereas
each
Pastor
has
stood
on
the
shoulders
of
the
previous
pastor
years,
men
of
God
proclaiming
the
gospel
of
God
each
believing
in
the
birth,
the
death
and
the
resurrection
from
beginning
to
present
each
believes
God's
word
and
whereas
Saint
Mark
stands
on
the
foundation
of
God's
word.
Matthew
chapter
16,
verse,
18
and
the
Gates
of
Hell
shall
not
Prevail
against
it.
J
J
The
seventh
day
of
June
2023
city
of
Punta,
Gorda,
Florida,
The,
Honorable,
Lynn,
R,
Matthews,
mayor
and
I
do
want
to
say,
I
had
the
honor
of
presenting
this
proclamation
to
the
congregation
on
the
Sunday
before
Memorial
Day,
and
it
was
a
very
moving
experience.
I
was
very
taken
with
the
energy
and
the
musical
program
and
they
had
a
really
eloquent
visiting
pastor,
but
I
was
especially
privileged
to
meet
Pastor
Clark
and
his
wife.
Lynn
is
here
today
to
accept
the
proclamation
on
behalf
of
the
congregation
so
Lynn
foreign.
A
Okay
and
next
we
have
a
proclamation
in
honor
of
small
cities
month,
and
it
will
be
my
honor
to
present
this
on
behalf
of
the
city,
whereas
small
cities
and
towns
under
30.
Excuse
me.
Fifty
thousand
population
are
the
home
to
millions
of
Americans
and
constitute
the
vast
majority
of
municipalities
across
the
United
States,
and
whereas
small
cities
and
towns
strive
to
strengthen
their
communities
through
the
provision
of
services
and
programs
to
improve
the
quality
of
life
for
all
citizens.
A
Services
is
more
important
than
ever
to
ensure
the
safety
and
growth
of
small
town
America.
And
whereas
the
small
cities,
Council
of
the
National
League
of
cities,
has
declared
June
2023
as
small
cities
month
now.
Therefore,
the
city
of
Council
of
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
Florida,
does
hereby
Proclaim
June
2023
as
small
cities
month
and
encourages
President,
Biden,
Congress,
state
governments,
organizations,
businesses
and
all
citizens
to
work
together
to
invest
in
small
cities
and
towns
to
better
the
lives
of
all
citizens,
Hast
and
Julie,
adopted
in
a
regular
session.
G
K
You
It's
actually
an
honor
to
be
able
to
work
with
a
city,
that's
considered
a
small
City
and
to
see
the
caliber
and
level
of
effort
that
gaze
in
from
the
employees,
especially
city
council,
that
has
to
set
that
policy
and
help
support
everything
that
gets
done
and
the
work
that
is
completed.
The
quality
of
that
work
when
we
are
able
to
finish
it.
Obviously,
in
the
last
few
months,
especially
there
have
been
so
many
things
that
need
to
continue
to
be
completed
and
our
staff
is
working
very
diligently
to
make
sure
that
happens.
K
Everything
from
contracts
that
you
can't
get
contractors
for
to
procurement
issues
that
you
can't
get
people
that
want
to
be
procured.
So
we're
trying
to
work
through
these
things,
not
to
mention
things
like
the
major
Seawall
issues
where
we
now
have
some
people
on
the
ground.
We
have
boats
in
the
canal,
barges
in
the
canals
to
complete
that
so
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
needs
to
be
continued
and
a
lot
that
our
staff
here
will
be
able
to
complete
in
the
upcoming
year.
K
A
Okay
and
before
we
move
on
just
one
quick
note,
the
Peace
River
Wildlife
Center
review
of
their
contract
agreement.
It
was
going
to
be
on
the
next
Council
agenda.
The
attorney
for
the
applicant
was
unable
to
complete
the
analysis
of
the
of
the
revisions
and
it
will
be
brought
forward,
hopefully
at
our
next
meeting,
so
that
was
supposed
to
be
on
this
meeting.
However,
it
didn't
make
it
to
this
agenda.
A
L
Ian
Milne
for
the
record
sander
Drive
Berkshire
Isles,
the
last
two
and
a
half
years,
I've
been
serving
on
the
Burnt
Store
Isles
Canal
advisory
committee,
and
that
was
until
last
week
when
I
got
a
letter
from
the
city
clerk
saying
that
I
was
in
violation
of
one
of
the
Committees
bylaws,
and
that
bylaw
was
the
one
that
says.
If
a
member
misses
three
meetings,
then
within
12
months,
that
member's
seat
is
forfeit,
I
thought.
Maybe
there
was
a
mistake
until
I
checked.
L
M
Hi
I'm
Bradford,
Gamblin
and
I'm
here
to
present
myself
to
the
council
as
a
nominee
for
the
Planning
Commission.
My
current
term
is
expired
or
expiring,
and
I
would
very
much
like
to
be
considered
for
another
term.
I
do
not
feel
that
our
task
is
completed
and
I
would
like
to
continue
serving
my
community
and
thank
you
thank.
N
N
I've
been
in
the
HVAC
industry
for
40
years
heating,
air
conditioning
ventilation,
I've
carried
my
brokerage
licenses,
my
insurance
licenses,
all
during
that
time,
I've
worked
with
contractors
developers,
investors,
my
entire
career
and
I
want
to
bring
that
experience
in
that
time
to
help
Punta
Gorda
grow
into
the
future
and
become
a
valuable
part
of
this
community.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
A
O
P
A
A
Q
R
I'm
also
a
volunteer
at
the
Botanical
Society
Peace
River
Botanical
Society
had
a
chance
recently
to
look
at
the
video
of
a
recent
code.
Enforcement
meeting
was
very
impressed
at
the
performance
and
the
the
manner
in
which
it
was
conducted,
especially
as
you
were
just
saying:
Mr
Maria
for
a
small
town.
R
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
wealth
of
experience
here
in
the
in
the
sea,
I
think
I
could
attribute
to
bring
my
background
in
public
service
and
civil
service
to
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
and
I
would
enjoy
doing
that
and
would
like
to
be
considered
as
an
alternate
and
for
code
enforcement.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very.
P
S
That
was
33
years
of
experience
since
four
years
ago,
moved
here
at
full
time,
thrilled
to
be
in
this
lovely
town,
this
lovely
city,
something
I've
wanted
to
do
since
flipper
was
on
television
so
respectfully
requesting
to
be
on
The,
Advisory,
Board,
I'm,
hoping
my
past
life
experience
could
see,
be
some
benefit
to
the
city.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
is
there
anyone
else,
okay!
Well,
thank
you
all
very
much
for
offering
to
serve.
We
it's
really
appreciated,
and
we
certainly
need
all
of
you
to
come
forward
and
serve
the
community,
and
these
boards
and
committees
are
very
important
to
the
city
council
in
particular,
because
we
appreciate
that
you
take
the
time
to
review
each
of
the
cases
that
eventually
will
come
before
us
in
many
cases,
so
they're
all
critically
important
to
the
overall
city
government
structure,
and
we
do
appreciate
your
offer
to
serve
okay.
Next,
we'll
go
on
to
any
citizen
comments.
A
This
will
be
for
public
comment
on
any
subject
and
I
have
some
housekeeping
notes.
I
would
like
to
read
into
the
record
before
we
begin
if
you
haven't
already
done
so,
please
silence
all
your
personal
devices
as
this
meeting
is
being
recorded
and
it
disrupts
the
proceedings
when
phones
go
off
during
the
meeting.
A
There's
a
Code
of
Conduct
in
the
council
chamber
and
members
of
the
public
should
familiarize
themselves
with
the
rules
on
the
frame.
The
document
that's
in
front
of
the
Deus
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
address
the
council
should
use
the
guest
Podium
at
the
center
of
the
room.
The
podium
to
the
right
of
the
stage
is
for
staff
and
applicant
presentations
only
speak
directly
into
the
microphone
and
begin
by
stating
your
name
for
the
record.
A
If
it
is
a
quasi-judicial
hearing,
please
also
state
that
you
have
been
sworn
in
and
there
will
be
a
period
where
you'll
be
asked
to
be
sworn
in.
Each
person
has
three
minutes
to
speak
and
sharing
minutes
is
not
permitted.
Speakers
are
to
direct
all
comments
to
the
city
council,
not
the
audience
or
any
one.
Individual
council
member
discussion
between
speakers
and
members
of
the
audience
is
not
permitted
when
there
are
many
individuals
who
wish
to
speak.
Speakers
should
try
not
to
reiterate
lengthy
comments
made
by
others
to
ensure
an
effective
and
efficient
meeting.
A
This
ensures
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
speak
audience
and
speakers
will
be
courteous
in
their
language
and
presentation,
no
applause,
sidebar
conversations
or
booing
before
during
or
after
each
speaker.
Please
refrain
from
talking
in
the
audience
during
the
meeting.
If
you
have
supporting
documents
to
display
during
the
meeting,
you
must
provide
them
to
the
city
clerk
and
they
become
part
of
the
permanent
record
and
will
be
retained
by
the
clerk's
office.
The
citizens
comments
portion
of
the
meeting
is
not
intended
to
be
a
question
and
answer
session.
This
is
for
citizen
comments.
A
Only
council
members
should
refrain
from
answering
impromptu
questions
or
debating
issues
with
members
of
the
public
and
again
we
do
have
two
public
hearings.
So
if
you
plan
to
speak
on
agenda
item
4A
or
5A,
which
will
both
be
public
hearings,
I
would
ask
that
you
refrain
from
commenting
at
this
time
and
wait
until
you
get
to
the
public
hearing
agenda
for
those
agenda
items
with
that
said.
Anyone
that
would
like
to
provide
public
comments.
Please
come
to
the
podium
state,
your
name
for
the
record,
and
you
have
three
minutes.
P
Take
two
good
morning:
good
morning
my
name
is
Dr
Deborah
Lux
and
on
May
11th
I
officially
filed
my
paperwork
to
announce
my
candidacy
for
Punta
Gorda
city
council,
District
3.,
as
a
retired
dentist
and
a
small
business
owner
in
Florida
with
over
20
years
experience.
I
am
fully
committed
to
serving
my
community
I
reside
in
PGI,
with
my
husband
Sean,
who
is
not
only
a
small
business
owner
as
well,
but
also
practices
as
an
attorney
in
a
local
Law
Firm.
We
are
proud
veterans.
P
I
proudly
serve
my
country
as
an
officer
in
the
United
States
Navy,
while
my
husband
proudly
served
in
the
Air
Force
after
an
honorable
discharge,
I
fell
in
love
and
moved
to
Punta.
Gorda
jobs
took
me
elsewhere,
but
in
2004
we
purchased
land
here,
envisioning
it
as
our
site
for
our
forever
home.
Now
that
it
has
become
a
reality,
I
am
even
more
motivated
to
contribute
to
the
growth
and
development
of
Punta
Gorda.
P
Throughout
my
life,
I
have
dedicated
myself
to
giving
back
to
others.
One
notable
example
is
Collier
County
Honor
Flight,
also
known
as
Collier
Lee
Honor
Flight
100
of
volunteer
501c3,
non-profit
organization
founded
by
both
Sean
and
me,
which
we
are
still
heavily
involved
in
my
husband
and
I
are
a
humble
couple.
You
can
find
us
attending
our
yard,
taking
joy
and
mowing
the
lawn
trimming
and
even
pulling
weeds
or
even
see
us
playing
with
all
our
animals
for
which
our
rescue
we
strive
to
be
great,
neighbors
and
generally
care
about
our
community.
P
This
is
precisely
why
I
filed
for
consideration
for
City
Council
I
understand.
There
is
a
lot
to
learn
as
evidence
of
my
diligent
study
of
372
pages
of
chapter
26,
zoning
and
land
developer
regulations
and
reviewing
the
comprehensive
plan
I
embrace
hard
work
and
recognize
the
important
importance
of
needed
growth
and
development.
P
This
is
what
makes
Punta
Gorda
our
genuine
Harborside
hometown.
My
primary
objective
is
to
listen,
understand
and
learn
from
all
who
live
in
Punta
Gorda
by
becoming
a
council
member
I
aim
to
achieve
the
best
possible
outcomes
and
contribute
significantly
to
the
realization
of
our
shared
goals.
I
am
immensely
grateful
for
the
strong
support
I
receive
from
our
community.
It
is
my
sincere
intention
to
be
a
valuable
asset
to
the
city
council.
P
F
Hi
there
Jeff
lustig
I,
think
it's
great
that
so
many
people
are
coming
out
for
the
code
enforcement
board.
That's
a
particular
concern
of
mine
to
deal
with
the
residents
compassionately
and
not
overtax
them.
An
example
is
a
man
cleared
his
property
of
trees
because
some
of
them
had
blown
over
to
his
neighbor's
yard.
He
also
removed
the
rest
of
the
trees
to
start
to
build
a
house.
He
put
the
sand
down
and
he
he
got
it
cleared
in
the
expectation
of
filing
plans
for
to
build
on
it.
F
He
did
not
know
that
he
needed
a
building
permit,
though,
with
architectural
plans
and
permitting
costs
to
clear
the
land
when
he
asked
if
he
needed
a
permit
to
clear
the
trees.
The
answer
is
no
because
there
is
no
permit
to
clear
the
trees.
What
you
really
need
is
the
plans
and
have
the
money
to
the
code,
so
he
got
confused
over
that
and
he
was
in
Michigan
at
the
time.
The
enforcement
board
only
fined
him
six
hundred
dollars
and
I
can
tell
from
the
city
attorney.
F
He
felt
that
it
was
not
enough
and
I
understand
your
reasoning,
for
that
is
that
you
don't
want
people
to
come
back
and
just
apologize.
He
didn't.
He
wasn't
doing
this
to
get
anything
extra
like
clearing
the
lot
so
that
he
could
just
not
build
on
it
and
have
a
a
a
a
place
that
was
free
of
of
trees.
He
he
did
it
out
of
an
honest
mistake
and
he
wasn't
trying
to
get
away
with
anything
and
the
the
board
could
have
fined
him.
Thirty
thousand
dollars.
F
Oh
excuse
me
on
the
board,
could
have
fined
him
up
to
thirty
thousand
dollars
for
this,
because
there's
a
five
thousand
dollar
irreparable
harm,
but
they
didn't.
Thank
goodness.
He
was
here
because
we're
not
in
Northport.
This
happens
all
the
time,
if
you
view
their
code
enforcement
thanks
and
I'd
like
to
tell
you
about
a
little
story.
It's
a
pawn
broker
story.
F
You
have
to
auction
it
and
sell
it
and
then
give
the
Surplus
back
to
the
client
if,
if
there's
more
money
obtained
from
the
auction
than
the
fees
and
anything
else,
and
so
he
decided
to
hold
his
own
auction,
The
Pawn
Broker
and
he
advertised
this
auction
in
foreign
language
newspapers,
where
no
one
reads
English:
to
satisfy
the
legal
requirements
and
of
course
no
one
showed
up
for
the
auction,
and
since
he
was
the
only
bidder
on
the
auction,
he
bought
every
piece
of
jewelry
back
for
three
dollars.
Thank.
H
It
is
my
job
to
assist
staff
in
the
prosecution
and
when
necessary,
answer
questions
of
the
code
enforcement
board,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
what
remedies
they
may
have
as
it
relates
to
fines.
Most
of
the
fines
are
fines
that
are
potential
fines
if
the
applicant
or
the
respondent
doesn't
come
into
compliance
within
the
deadline
that
the
code
enforcement
board
sets.
After
determining
that
there
is
a
violation
and
there'd
be
a
second
hearing
if
they
fail
to
come
into
compliance
during
that
period
of
time.
H
Some
of
the
violations
involve
those
that
are
called
irreparable
violations,
meaning
that
they
can't
fix
it
after
the
fact,
such
as
the
removal
of
trees.
I
equate
the
the
analogy
to
trying
to
put
the
toothpaste
back
into
the
tube,
but
it
is
not
my
role
to
advise
the
the
board
with
respect
to
how
I
or
the
city
feels
with
respect
to
the
amount
of
the
fine
that
is
being
discussed
by
the
code
enforcement
board.
H
My
belief
is
that
there
must
have
been
a
mistaken
impression
by
the
speaker
with
respect
to
my
answering
the
board
on
a
question
of
whether
or
not
they
had
the
ability
to
impose
or
treat
it
as
an
irreparable
fine,
in
which
case
each
violation
can
be
fined
up
to
five
thousand
dollars.
Ordinarily,
it
would
be
if
they
fail
to
come
into
compliance.
H
I
do
indicate
from
time
to
time
that
in
their
deliberations,
what
their
role
is
in
terms
of
code
enforcement
and
it's
generally
to
obtain
enforcement
and
deter
future
violations,
but
at
no
time
would
I
express
an
opinion
with
respect
to
the
amount
of
a
fine
and
I
just
want
to
clarify
the
record.
With
respect
to
that,
thank.
T
T
It
would
have
been
a
draw
for
me
and
my
friends
to
drink
and
have
a
good
time.
The
problem,
a
main
problem
with
that
particular
bridge,
is
when
you're
going
through
the
underpass
going
under
and
as
it
goes
up
to
the
bridge,
there's
a
very
high
angle,
which
would
be
like
a
flooring
for
someone
crawling
up
there
to
the
crawl
space,
and
then
you've
got
the
bridge
on
top
and
they
like
to
get
into
that
crawl.
Space
I
would
have
loved
it.
T
The
problem
is
that
angle
of
that
entire
length
of
where
they
would
be
walking
and
someone
falling
drunk
or
on
fentanyl
or
anything
else,
and
even
though
it
would
be
their
fault
for
the
fall,
I'm
sure
family
members
would
find
a
very
good
reason
to
sue
the
pants
off
of
Punta
Gorda.
So
I
suggest
you
do
something
other
than
only
confronting
those
who
are
trespassing,
but
also
get
something
there
with
regard
to
fencing
so
that
they
can.
T
No
one
like
me
in
my
old
days
could
ever
get
up
in
there,
because
I
can
tell
you
when
I've
been
drunk,
I
have
fallen
down
and
I'm
sure
my
brothers
would
have
sued
the
pants
off
of
you.
The
other
quick
thing
I'd
like
to
talk
about
is
Cynthia.
I
went
over
to
representative
Michael
Grant's
local
office
and
about
seven
weeks
ago
and
talked
about
when
I'm.
When
the
magazine,
the
Florida
weekly
mentioned
about
home
rule
and
I,
went
over
and
spoke
with
her
terrific
lady
been
around
the
block.
T
Smart
lady
and
I
went
back
again
the
other
day
to
see
if
there
was
any
follow-up
with
our
representative
Michael
Grant,
and
there
had
been
some
discussion
to
it.
She
had
offered.
So
if
you
as
the
Punta,
Gorda,
City
councilor,
concerned
anything
about
home
rule
or
any
other
issues
that
have
to
do
with
Tallahassee
they're
making
this
offer
here
for
the
first
two
weeks
in
this
coming
September
or
any
group
team,
Punta
Gorda,
so
I
suggest
you
follow
up
and
talk
with
her
I
have
her
email
address.
A
A
Okay,
we
are
now
in
session
as
a
community
redevelopment
agency.
Our
first
agenda
item
is
citizen
comments.
If
there's
anyone
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
comment
on
any
agenda
items
on
the
CRA
agenda,
you
please
come
forward
and
state
your
name
for
the
record,
and
you
will
have
three
minutes.
F
A
A
V
A
K
And
CRA
CDD,
it's
you
know
all
three
letters.
So
that's
really
easy
to
confuse
community
redevelopment
report.
If
we
could
talk
for
a
moment
about
the
Municipal
Marina
activity,
we've
seen
since
a
lot
of
people
have
left
the
area,
some
reduced
activity
actually
for
our
annuals,
you
can
see
there
were
14
that
we
had
in
the
slips,
as
opposed
to
last
year.
At
about
28
semi-annuals
were
still
two,
our
monthlies.
We
had
15
that
were
coming
and
going
on
a
monthly
basis
for
transient.
K
We
did
have
a
few
more
and
we
saw
them
coming
in
overnights
few
nights,
et
cetera
back
out.
We
had
eight
as
opposed
to
four
last
year.
Of
course
our
commercials
were
steady
at
14.
and
for
our
Moorings
last
year
we
had
10
this
year.
We
had
three.
We
also
have
about
that
percentage
of
Mooring
balls
left
at
this
point,
so
we're
still
seeing
some
Moorings
and
we're
still
scoping
the
whole
repair
to
the
marina
project
for
liverboards.
K
K
Are
very
pleased,
thank
you.
The
pump
out
vessel
you
can
see
that
we
had
74
pump
outs
as
opposed
to
89
last
month
and
89
the
year
before,
we
did
have
still
2,
000
gallons,
that
we
were
able
to
remove
traveled
about
168
miles
with
our
pump
out
vessels,
so
we're
still
providing
that
service
to
help
keep
the
harbor
clean.
We
have
a
few
projects
where
waiting
with
baited
breath
for
our
delivery
of
our
90
documents
this
month
for
City
Hall.
K
But
that's
generally
completed
the
one
thing
that
you'll
see
in
gilchrists
and
as
we
talk
about
Bayfront
Center,
that
there's
still
some
debris
around
the
perimeter
of
the
building
that
continues
to
fall
and
get
worse
and
we're
trying
to
clean
some
of
that
up,
so
that
we
do
have
a
little
more
presentation
there,
as
opposed
to
just
looking
like
the
building
collapsed,
which
it
did.
So.
We
are
working
on
that
AC
Freeman
house.
You
can
see
that
we're
still
working
on
the
90
documents.
K
They
met
in
May
to
hear
from
uncommon
friends,
which
is
another
group
that
actually
helps
manage
historic
properties.
And
then
the
group
itself
intends
to
update
Council
on
some
of
of
the
efforts
that
says:
June
21st.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
dovetail
this
with
some
of
the
anticipated
costs
for
Freeman
house
and
also
make
sure
they've
had
an
opportunity
to
look
at
the
actual
plans
that
are
proposed
that
are
being
constructed
say
that
they
have
a
little
more
information,
so
that
may
not
be
next
agenda.
K
Meeting
it
may
be
depends
on
how
that
pans
out,
but
we
will
be
bringing
that
back.
Council,
of
course,
has
to
determine
what
are
we
going
to
do
as
far
as
the
use
once
we
put
that
on
the
street,
you'll
have
some
more
information,
so
we
can
say.
Yes,
we
want
to
make
sure
we
can
hold
events
there,
it'll
be
a
nice
property,
well
maintained.
We
need
someone
to
manage
it.
We
don't
want
any
of
the
above.
K
So
as
we
move
through
Lashley
splash
pad
generally,
we
had
that
contractors
I
had
stated
before
that
was
ready
to
go
on
that,
and
then
the
licensing
was
an
issue
because
of
the
type
of
contract
it
was
so
they
did
not
have
Florida
licenses
to
do
that.
So,
of
course,
that
project
we
discussed
last
discussed
that
the
equipment
sitting
there
ready.
K
We
have
some
repairs
that
need
to
be
effectuated
to
make
that
work
again.
Currently
without
spending
a
lot
of
money
and
then,
of
course,
we
had
to
have
that
back
out
to
bid
say
that
we
can
get
contractual
prices
back
on
that
and
move
forward
if
that's
council's
Direction.
So
that's
moving
within
that
scope
other
than
that
the
general
information
for
the
CRA
right
now
is
budgetary
and
Kristen
will
be
presenting
that.
But
we
also
have
some
good
news
in
that
regard
for
the
CRA
budget.
A
Q
Good
morning,
Chris
and
Simeone
Finance
director,
so
we'll
start
with
the
good
news
that
we're
talking
about
that
city
manager
alluded
to
the
first
section
of
our
CRA
is
The
Debt
Service
section.
So
that
is
the
section
that
has
the
tax
increment
financing
that
is
coming
from
the
city
and
the
county,
and
again
any
of
that
tax.
Increment
financing
Revenue
can
only
be
used
towards
the
debt
service
and
we
had
refinanced
the
debt
through
20
fiscal
year
2028,
even
though
the
district
was
extended
to
fiscal
year
2030.
Q
With
those
estimates,
we
could
retire
the
debt
in
fiscal
year,
2024
and
sunset
the
district.
So
then,
those
funds
in
fiscal
year
2025
would
remain
with
the
general
fund,
as
well
as
any
of
the
expenditures
that
are
in
the
in
the
fund.
They
would
move
over
again.
This
is
all
based
on
the
estimates
we're
currently
using.
We
will
have
a
July
1
number
from
the
county
regarding
the
taxable
value
and
then,
of
course,
the
millage
rates
are
adopted
in
September,
so
those
will
be
the
final
factors
at
that
point
in
time.
W
Q
Because
the
current
projects
that
happen
to
be
in
the
CRA
District
are
all
funded
by
other
sources,
because
the
CRA
tax
increment
financing
was
only
allowed
for
Debt
Service.
We
couldn't
do
new
projects
with
those
funds,
so
we
have
in
the
CRA.
When
we
get
to
the
next
sections
you'll
see
we
have
some
revenue
from
rentals
or
interest
income,
and
things
like
that
that
we
can
use
for
our
projects.
Q
Q
A
Q
A
K
I'm
sure
you
could
hear
me
without
the
microphone,
but
when
we
did
our
initial
five-year
program
and
when
I
was
first
in
this
position,
we
had
anticipated
that
there
would
be
a
certain
amount
of
money
come
back
when
the
CRA
sunsets.
Since
then
we
based
a
staffing
plan
on
that.
We
put
some
of
our
infrastructure
planning
into
that,
knowing
that
that
money
was
coming
back
in
since
that
time.
Of
course,
we
have
even
more
expense
with
there
have
been
some
Personnel
increases
that
were
required.
K
We've
had
inflationary
expenses
that
were
horrible
of
Coopers,
some
of
them
30
to
40
percent
and
even
upward
for
operations.
So
this
money
is
going
to
be
a
General
Revenue
that
will
come
back
in
that
will
help
offset
these
calls
that
you
see
as
we
move
through
the
general
fund
pro
forma.
So
that's
why
we
always
anticipated.
K
A
K
Q
Q
Okay!
So
then
the
next
section
of
the
CRA
is
our
Herald
Court
Center
operations
and
that's
the
operations
of
the
garage
and
the
rental
units.
We
maintain
the
public
facilities
and
the
Tenant
common
areas
and
those
sources
are
leases
and
the
common
area,
maintenance
fees
and
this
fund
this
section
for
the
revenues
we
did
assume
the
city
use
of
the
fgc
units.
We
did
extend
it
an
extra
year,
so
originally
we
had
through
fiscal
year
24,
but
just
to
be
on
the
safe
side.
We
did
put
it
to
2025.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
We
have
a
large
amount
set
aside
for
the
review
of
the
garage
and
the
ceiling,
the
the
sealant
that
goes
on
the
garage
and
a
certain
amount
per
year
and
then
in
fiscal
year
28.
We
would
anticipate
we'll
need
another
large
repair
for
the
sealant
it
might
get
pushed
off
one
year
or
so
or
one
or
two
years
it
usually
lasts
five
to
seven
years.
A
P
V
Project
status
report
and
when
I
was
looking
at
the
one
online
it
had
the
detailed
timeline
and
Greg
just
it
was
hard.
I
noticed
that
the
the
bid
Awards
section
and
the
construction
section
were
blurred
together
and
I
just
thought
it
might
be
more
clarity
if
we
kept
them
separate.
Like
some
of
the
other
projects.
There
are
separate
timelines,
and
that
was
just
the
only.
It
was
just
hard
to
calculate
as
to
where
we
were
in
the
in
the
in
the
entire
project
schedule.
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A
K
So
we're
anticipating
getting
the
90
plans
in
guaranteed
maximum
cost
this
coming
month.
We
should
be
bringing
that
back
to
council,
I,
believe
August
or
second
in
June
and
of
course,
just
I
mean
as
a
nutshell
before
they
elaborate,
then
of
course
we
have
to
get
that
out
to
bid
get
the
contractor
back
in
and
move
everything
out
and
get
the
construction
project
Maybe.
X
Y
K
K
K
E
E
K
A
Z
H
Do
you
swear
affirmed
that
the
testimony
about
the
give
will
be
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing,
but
the
truth
all
right.
So
this
is
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
That's
the
reason
why
testimony
needs
to
be
under
oath.
This
will
be
the
second
reading,
as
I
indicated,
which
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
an
ordinance
of
the
city
council,
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda,
Florida,
amending
chapter
16.
H
Pursuant
to
section
190.012
parents,
II
Florida,
Statutes,
to
exercise
certain
additional
powers
to
finance
plan,
establish,
acquire
construct,
reconstruct,
enlarge
or
extend,
equip
operate
and
maintain
systems
and
facilities
for
one
parks
and
facilities
for
indoor
and
outdoor
recreational,
cultural
and
educational
uses
and
two
security,
including,
but
not
limited
to
guard
houses,
fences
and
Gates.
Electronic
intrusion,
detection
systems
and
patrol
cars
providing
for
conflicts
and
severability
and
providing
an
effective
date.
X
X
H
And
I
advised
the
stat,
the
council
for
the
applicant
that
their
previous
presentation
is
part
of
the
record
and
of
course
there
were
some
additional
information
that
the
city
council
asked,
and
so
essentially
the
presentation
of
the
applicant
may
be
abbreviated
and
then
focus
in
on
the
additional
information
that
they
needed
to
present.
Today.
Okay,.
G
AA
Oh,
thank
you
all.
So
much
again,
Jared
Earlywine
on
behalf
of
the
petitioner
I
have
with
me
as
well
Mr
Paul
Martin
on
the
right
there.
Who's
with
the
applicant
we've
got
Craig
rathell
with
Rafael
hunting,
Associates
and
Todd
Rebel
from
Banks
Engineering,
and
we
very
much
appreciate
you
all
considering
this
on
a
second
reading.
Just
to
reiterate
some
of
the
things
that
Mr
Levin
said
last
time,
I
think
we
did
a
fairly
extensive
presentation.
AA
I
talked
about
the
the
background
of
chapter
190,
Florida
Statutes,
how
there
are
over
900,
Community,
Development
districts
in
Florida,
and
those
include
some
of
the
you
know
most
successful
residential
communities
in
Florida,
because
they're
able
to
access
the
tax-demp
bond
market,
they're
able
to
bring
forth
the
infrastructure
for
residential
and
mixed
use
development
in
a
way
that's
more
efficient,
it's
cheaper!
It
allows
the
developer
basically
to
put
in
a
better
quality
project
at
less
cost
and
and
results
in
competitive
home
pricing
and
whatnot.
AA
It's
all
also
a
great
operation
maintenance
entity
as
I
discussed
last
time
because
of
the
you
know,
the
ability
of
residents
to
come
back
later,
refinance
improvements,
or
you
know,
Finance
new
improvements.
If
they
need
to,
they
can
go
on
the
tax
roll
to
collect
their
assessments,
which
creates
a
stable
Revenue
stream.
They
can
have
access
to
FEMA
funding,
Statewide
Mutual,
Aid
assistance,
they're
much
more
transparent
and
overall,
they
just
maintain
the
property
values
in
a
better
way.
AA
From
that
last
meeting
about
two
weeks
ago,
we
had
about
a
week
or
so
to
gather
some
answers
to
some
of
the
questions
you
all
had
so
we've
resubmitted
our
petition.
We've
got
this
new
presentation.
We
have
a
memo
on
the
contiguity,
a
question
that
was
raised.
We
also
have
background
information
on
our
supervisors.
I'll
incorporate
all
of
that
by
record
as
well.
AA
O
AB
AA
So,
thank
you
all
so
much
for
that.
So
I
I
think
that
at
least
establishes
kind
of
where
we
were
last
time
and
what's
transpired.
Since
then,
I
think
there
were
a
number
of
questions
y'all
had
raised
and
we
took
that
sort
of
seven
or
eight
day
week
and
a
half
time
frame
to
try
to
address
those.
If
you
see
here,
we've
added
just
sort
of
a
sketch
to
show
kind
of
how
the
the
project
there
connects
we'll
come
back
to
that
here
in
a
minute.
AA
But
there
are
really
three
questions
you
all
had.
A
couple
of
them
were
pretty
straightforward.
Let
me
let
me
just
get
down
to
that
piece
of
the
slide.
So
one
question
was:
you
know
how
many
Community
Development
districts?
Are
there
there's
over
900
in
Florida
and
that's
a
true
thing.
We
also
talked
about
how
many
are
in
Charlotte,
County
I,
think
I
said
there
were
10
to
12.,
turns
out,
there's
actually
13.,
so
I've
got
the
list
of
them
up
there
from
deo's
website.
AA
That's
just
kind
of
a
random
question:
I'll
add
the
other.
The
other
thing
that
was
asked
for
was,
could
we
provide
the
resumes
and
some
personal
statements
and
background
checks
on
each
of
the
potential
board
supervisors.
So
this
board
it's
going
to
stay
a
lot
like
a
homeowners
association
board.
It
is
in
the
early
years
populated
by
the
developer.
It
does
turn
over
faster
than
an
HOA
board.
Would
once
you
get
to
50
land
ownership
change,
you
can
actually
start
switching
out
seats
in
this
case.
AA
Coulter
land
partners
and
and
their
Affiliates
are
going
to
be
developing
the
project
on
the
early
end,
and
so
their
representatives
will
be
sitting
on
that
board.
So
we
updated
those
names.
I
I
know
each
of
the
the
five
supervisors.
One
of
them
is
actually
Mr
Martin.
Here
we
want
to
bring
one
of
them
at
least
up
here.
If
you
all
could
ask
questions
if
you
wanted
to,
but
all
five
of
them
I've
worked
with
for
years,
they're
all
involved
with
residential
development.
AA
They
deal
with
communities
and
and
community
outreach
and
transitioning
communities
and
all
the
rest
of
it.
So
they're
really
well
qualified.
They
sit
on
a
number
of
CD
boards
and
have
a
lot
of
experience
and
and
Paul's
here
is
kind
of
representing
that
group
and
happy
to
answer
questions,
but
we've
got
clear
background
checks,
personal
statements
and
resumes
for
for
all
five
of
them.
The
other.
The
other
question
that
you'll
asked
was
you
know
about
the
contiguity.
AA
You
all
were
concerned
that
the
the
fact
there
was
kind
of
a
northern
peace
and
a
southern
piece,
that's
separated
a
little
bit
by
a
commercial
tract,
wasn't
maybe
contiguous
within
the
meaning
of
the
law
and
I
put
together
a
fairly
lengthy
memo.
That
kind
of
addresses
that
there's
you
know
dozens
and
dozens
of
examples
around
Florida
of
communities
that
not
only
are
not
actually
contiguous
but
also
may
actually
be
developed
by
different
developers.
They
have
their
own,
you
know,
clubhouses
and
and
all
the
rest
of
it.
AA
There's
there's
our
our
picture
of
our
site.
You
can
see
the
connection
Road
there,
the
city
you'll
actually
own,
that
connection
Road
or
or
have
easements
over
it
and
own
the
infrastructure
within
there
and
maintain
it.
So
it
really
is
connected,
but
look
look
at
the
the
dozen
or
so
examples
here
that
I've
got.
This
is
just
the
first
dozen.
This
is
the
examples
of
ones
that
are
actually
separated
by
roadways,
but
they
also
may
be
separated
by
you
know:
open
space
right.
AA
Some
of
them
are
separated
by
by
ponds
and
lakes
and
other
things
like
that.
Large
interchanges,
I
think
the
pictures
are
probably
worth
a
thousand
words.
You
see
a
Diamond
Hills
up
there.
First
that
piece
on
the
on
the
far
left
is
not
just
separated
by
Road,
that's
separated
by
a
fair
distance
of
stormwater,
Pond
and
open
area.
You
can
see
the
next
way.
Next
one
is
Champions.
Gate
they've
got
a
big
section
there.
AA
That's
completely
separate
here's
a
good
example
too
of
reunion,
and
you
can
see,
there's
a
whole
interchange
and
those
those
two
pieces
are
actually
part
of
the
same
CD.
What
they're
really
looking
at
is
not
whether
it's
functionally
and
related
from
the
standpoint
that
you
know
does
everyone
to
get
together
and
have
Christmas
parties
together.
AA
Ultimately,
the
utilities
will
be
turned
over
to
the
city,
so
you
guys
will
own
those
just
like
you
would
in
any
other
community
and
make
Revenue
off
of
that,
but
the
CDD
will
function
on
a
long-term
basis,
not
just
to
do
that.
Construction
install
on
the
front
end,
but
then,
after
the
construction
is
complete,
it'll
have
a
single
functionally
interrelated
Community
to
have
a
single
maintenance
contractor
maintain
those
stormwater
ponds
just
like
in
these
examples
here,
as
well
as
maintain
the
perimeter
landscape
and
the
entry
features
at
less
cost.
So
that's
that's.
AA
AA
We
ask
the
court
to
bless
the
district's
existence
and
it
safeguards
the
the
you
know
establishing
entity
from
any
liability
or
concern
that
maybe
the
ordinances
is
rendered
invalid
later
we'll
do
the
same
thing
with
norplute
and
all
of
these
went
through
that
same
process
as
well
and
all
were
approved.
You
see
the
first
dozen
here
are
examples
of
ones
that
are
not
actually
contiguous,
but
they're
yeah
they're
sufficiently
contiguous
under
the
statute.
AA
The
second
set
another
dozen
here
that
I've
got
are
examples
of
ones
that
are
have
different
pods
developed
by
different
developers
and
and
again
they're
they're,
common
themes.
They've
got
this
shared
stormwater
infrastructure
or
some
shared
Road,
something
like
that.
That's
being
shared
and
developed,
so
so
I
think
that
consecuted
requirement
is
more
than
met
and
again,
like
I
said
after
the
city's
ordinance
is
adopted,
we'll
take
it
through
a
bond
validation
process.
AA
We
can't
issue
debt
or
do
really
anything
until
after
that
process
is,
is
finished
and
so
all
that'll
be
safeguarded.
So
that's
I
think
the
answer
on
that
question.
Again:
we've
got
the
six
establishment
criteria.
If
you
look
back
at
at
North,
Loop
I
mean
we've
got.
The
only
testimony
of
the
record
is
that
everything
we've
said
is
true
and
correct.
Is
it
going
to
be
consistent
with
the
comp
plan?
That
absolutely
is
we
have
testimony
to
that
effect?
AA
Is
it
developed
as
a
functional
and
really
Community
Based
on
size,
compactness
and
contiguity
based
on
those
examples,
I
just
showed
I
mean
that's
absolutely
the
case.
The
CD
facilities
will
be
compatible
with
existing
community
services
and
Facilities.
That's
absolutely
right.
It's
engineered
that
way.
Is
it
a
minimal,
separate
government.
We've
got
all
the
landowners
consents
to
it.
This
is
the
best
alternative.
AA
It
absolutely
is
it
just
like
I
said
last
time
we're
going
to
be
able
to
come
out
issue
bonds,
it's
going
to
make
the
infrastructure
cost
less
that'll
allow
us
to
put
in
a
month
better
quality
project
and
then,
as
an
operation
maintenance.
Any
it's
a
much
better
operation,
maintenance
City
you
can
collect
on
the
tax.
U
H
So
that's
a
I,
think
a
legal
significantly
different
standard
under
the
and
less
of
a
burden
under
the
CDD
statute
than
it
would
be
under
the
annexation
statute,
and,
and
so
what
you
need
to
really
focus
in
and
the
testimony
that
that
was
recently
presented
is
whether
or
not
they're
close
enough,
basically
to
be
developable
as
one
functional
interrelated
community.
So
the
fact
that
they
are
not
touching,
which
would
be
significant
if
they
were
being
annexed,
is
not
critical
as
it
relates
to
whether
it
qualifies
to
be
established
as
a
CDD.
W
AA
AB
AA
Yeah
that
that's
right
and
bear
in
mind
too
the
infrastructure
that
we're
proposing
for
this
particular
project
is
not
infrastructure
that
this
city
typically
puts
in
I
mean
you
all
don't
put
in
stormwater
ponds
for
communities.
You
don't
put
in
utilities
for
communities
now
you
might
take
the
utility,
so
you
can
earn
some
money
off
of
them,
but
you're
not
going
to
put
in
entry
features
and
perimeter
landscaping
and
that's
kind
of
what
this
one's
all
about.
AB
And
just
just
add
a
fine
point
to
that
good
question
in
the
sense
of
number
one.
This
typically
is
not
the
type
of
infrastructure
you
would
normally
saddle
the
city
with
having
to
you
know
include
in
your
budget
and
be
part
of
your.
You
know
General
operating
costs,
because
what
basically
the
whole
point
of
chapter
190,
the
CDD
law
really
was
intended
back
in
1980-
was
that
New
Growth
will
pay
for
itself
versus
burdening
local
governments,
State
and
counties
and
and
cities,
and
so
that's
really
the
intent
of
this.
AB
So
really
it's
only
the
benefited
property
owners
are
the
ones
that
are
going
to
repay
these
assessments
to
repay
the
debt
and
the
operating
costs
and
the
intent
is.
It
does
not
negatively
impact
in
any
way
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
or
the
county,
and
that's
really
the
the
intent
of
the
legislature
going
all
the
way
back
to
1980.
A
A
Potentially,
yes,
we
already
have
20
000
people
in
our
community,
so
you're
adding
one
twentieth
more
to
the
community
for
the
demographic
numbers.
You
are
you're
going
to
be
requiring
us
to
hire
additional
police
fire
sanitation.
Those
are
all
services.
The
city
still
needs
to
provide
correct.
Well,.
AA
A
AA
No
we're
we're
not
saying
that
what
we're
saying
is
that
the
city
is
not
going
to
get
any
additional
costs
by
virtue
of
creating
the
CDD,
so
the
development
itself
will
generate
Revenue
because
it's
going
to
create,
you
know
you're
going
to
create
tax
Basin,
but
that's
just
like
any
other
development.
Okay,.
A
It's
previously
zoned
commercial
and
now
it's
been
converted
to
residential
by
that
you're,
including
a
whole
lot
more
residents
than
we
would
have
had
had
it
been
left
commercial
and
my,
and
so
we
are
going
to
incur
additional
expense
when
it
comes
to
having
to
hire
additional
police,
fire
and
sanitation
workers
and
other
services.
So
that's
my
concern.
Well,.
AA
H
H
Have
the
right
to
develop
this
property
the
way
it
is
currently
zoned
the
the
CDD
doesn't
change
that
it
it.
It
changes
their
the
developers
ability
as
to
how
to
finance
whatever
improvements
need
to
be
made
to
support
that
development,
so
it
doesn't
create
more
homes.
The
developer
could
do
that,
even
without
the
CDD.
Now.
A
That
it's
rezoned,
but
they,
but
they
did
rezone
the
property
with
the
intent
of
creating
the
CDD.
That's
that's!
Where
I'm
going
with
all
of
this!
So
we,
if
they,
if
it
had
been
left
commercial,
which
was
what
it
was
previously
zoned
for,
we
wouldn't
be
dealing
with
the
number
of
people
that
are
potentially
going
to
now
occupy
properties
on
this
site,
and
so
I
have
a
concern
with
that,
and
I
also
have
a
concern
with
the
fact
that
you're
putting
in
a
road
right
through
the
middle
of
what
was
left
as
potential
commercial
development.
A
AA
AB
But
the
the
the
these
homes
in
this
community
are
also
going
to
pay
ad
valorem
taxes
to
the
city,
which
is
going
to
increase
your
ad
valorem
tax
revenues
coming
in
and
of
course,
these
are
going
to
be
people
living
in
your
community,
using
your
businesses
going
to
the
restaurants
and
stuff
like
that,
so
I
think
in
most
all
instances
I
have
to
imagine.
This
is
a
positive
economic
driver
for
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda.
AA
F
F
They
also
take
a
a
million
dollars
up
front
in
profit
from
the
bonds,
at
least
that's
my
reading
of
it.
You
know
you
move
to
Punta
Gorda
to
be
under
the
government
of
Punta
Gorda.
Why
did
they
Annex
this
property
to
put
it
in
Punta
Gorda?
If
they
didn't
want
to
be
if
they
wanted
to
be
autonomous
from
Punta
Gorda?
A
G
H
If
you,
if
you
were
going
to
want
to
move
to,
approve
I,
think
this,
the
motion
could
be
simple,
that
you
moved
to
improve
based
on
the
evidence
and
testimony
presented,
the
six
criteria
have
been
sat
satisfied
if
you,
if
you
were
going
to
make
a
motion
to
deny
it,
would
be
beneficial
and
not
required
to
identify
which
of
the
criteria
have
not
been
met,
so
that
there's
a
record
as
to
the
purpose
of
your
promotion.
Thank
you.
A
I
do
have
one
more
question
if
I
may
so,
if
I
understand
this
correctly,
which
I
think
I
do,
this
is
creating
a
separate
city
government
for
the
CDD
all
by
itself,
which
takes
away
any
city
council
oversight
from
a
government
perspective.
However,
we
still
have
to
make
decisions
for
our
budget
based
on
these
properties
that
are
in
the
CDD,
am
I
correct.
AA
No,
that
that's
that's
not
correct
if
I
may,
so
the
CDD
operates
a
lot
like
a
homeowners
association
that
can
just
kind
of
do
more
things
that
acts
as
a
public
developer
of
the
public
infrastructure
and
it
acts
as
operation
maintenance
in
a
just
like
an
HOA.
The
city
retains
all
that
same
authority
to
you
know,
issue
zoning
approvals
permits.
AA
You
know,
issues
citations,
whatever
other
police
powers
and
other
authority
will
have.
You
still
have
with
respect
to
this
community.
The
only
difference
is
instead
of
having
the
you
know.
Coulter
homes
develop
the
utilities,
infrastructure
and
the
stormwater
ponds
you're
having
the
CDD
do
it
so,
but
you
all
still
have
all
your
same
Authority
and
and
oversight,
and
the
only
difference
is
there's
a
different
public
developer,
but
it
operates
just
like
a
homeowner
association,
essentially.
AA
No,
no,
it
again
it
operates.
Just
like
a
you
know
how
you
have
a
homer
Association
for
a
community
has
its
own
separate
board
and
that
board
manages
that
that
property.
That's
the
same
thing
that
the
CD
board
essentially
does,
except
they
have
some
additional
Powers,
but
they
don't
take
away
any
of
the
city's
Powers
at
all.
J
A
A
A
Okay,
so
I
asked
the
City
attorney
a
question
while
we
were
on
break-
and
that
is
I
was
asked
by
one
of
the
people
in
my
my
group
yesterday.
If
this
includes
medical
marijuana
and
it
does
not
specifically
State
medical
marijuana
as
one
of
the
sources
of
smoke
as
it
pertains
to
smoke.
So
my
question
is:
do
we
need
to
refile
this
at
a
later
council
meeting
to
include
that?
Because
medical
marijuana
is
a
smokable
form
of
even
though
it's
not
considered
tobacco?
It
is
a
smokable
form
of
stuff
that
pertains
to
this
ordinance.
H
A
U
I
this
was
initially
put
forth
by
me
at
the
request
of
drug
drug-free,
Punta
Gorda
and
their
request
was
to
make
our
ordinance
consistent
with
what
the
County
ordinance
was
and
I
I
would
be
concerned
with
overreaching
and
going.
You
know:
Way
Beyond
what
the
original
intent
was,
but
just
and
I
don't
believe.
There's
anybody
here,
I
invited
them
to
show
up
from
drug
free,
Punta
Gorda
if
they
wanted
to
speak
today.
I,
don't
believe
that
they're
here,
but
that
is
my
understanding
of
of
the
last
meeting
I
attended.
A
E
I'm,
chairman
of
the
parks
and
recs
board
for
the
county,
this
was
brought
before
my
committee
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
and
we
had
a
large
discussion.
American
Medical
Marijuana
did
not
come
up
in
that
discussion,
but
we
went
over
this
completely,
including
the
vaping
which
is
in
the
County
ordinance,
and
then
we
passed
an
Ensley
and
I
wrote
the
letter
to
the
County.
Commission
too,
prove
this
ordinance
so
another
half.
How
far
are
we
going
to
get
down
the
road?
E
E
Sheriff
does
usually
what
happens.
Is
you
get
a
couple
of
parents?
The
parents
are
asking
people
not
to
do
that.
That
gives
you
what
happens
and
if
you
get
somebody
that
says
no
I'm
not
going
to
do
it
I'm
going
to
smoke
anyways
and
somebody
makes
a
call
when
the
sheriff's
deputy
shows
up
and
kind
of
goes
away.
We
haven't
had
a
big
problem
with
it.
I
mean
we
just
haven't.
W
U
C
Okay,
chief
good
morning,
Chief
Pam
Davis
Punta
Gorda
Police
Department,
just
to
help
with
the
American
medical
marijuana
issue.
If
it's
in
the
form
of
smoking
in
any
way,
you
can't
do
it
in
a
public
place.
Anyways
State
Statute
prohibits
that
so
hopefully
that
so
it
doesn't
need
to
be
added,
does
not
mean.
C
H
Okay,
so
again,
that
was
something
that
I
wasn't
sure
of
on.
So
what
what
I
am
sure
of
is
that
this
ordinance
was
is
was
adopted
pursuant
to
the
smoking
ordinance
which
which
apply,
which
is
when
you
read
the
statute.
It's
intended
to
protect
citizens,
visitors
from
the
health
hazards
of
secondhand
tobacco
smoke
and
Vapor
I
do
want
to
just
clarify
a
point
when
the
city
council
directed
that
this
ordinance,
the
cities
of
code
be
consistent
with
the
counties
it
was
with
respect
to
including
Vape
as
as
included
in
the
ordinance.
H
That
was
something
that
came
about
after
the
accordions
was
originally
established.
I
want
to
point
out
that
our
ordinance
is
specific
to
those
areas
that
are
identified
in
the
in
the
ordinance
and
that
is
Lashley
Park,
interactive,
Fountain,
Hillcrest,
Park,
kidney
land,
Ponce
de
Leon,
Park
Children's
area
and
Cooper
Street
recreational
center.
It
does
not
prohibit
smoke
in
public
parks
or
places
within
the
city
Beyond,
those
that
are
specifically
identified.
A
A
T
Pat
Niles
Gateway
point
I,
I,
appreciate
this
and
I
appreciate
the
discussion
about
vaping.
There
is
something
and
I
I
apologize.
I
didn't
get
to
do
enough
of
the
research
with
regard
to
our
governor
and
it
had
something
to
do
with
legislation
that
was
passed
at
the
state
level
back
in
last
June,
so
I'm,
not
sure
if
that's
been
reviewed
here
or
not,
but
I
would
appreciate
it
and
I
apologize.
That
I
have
not
done
enough
research
to
be
able
to
give
something.
T
It
makes
me
sick
and
I
hope
that
if
there
is
some
sort
of
opening
that
the
governor
at
the
state
level
you're
talking
about
the
county
level,
but
if
there's
any
opening
there
to
absolutely
stop
this
disgusting
Behavior
I
would
appreciate
that
you
would
check
that
out
legally
to
see
if
it
applies.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
AC
However,
a
sign
and
a
receptacle
at
the
entrances
of
all
of
those
places
would
at
least
let
the
public
know
uh-uh
not
here
and
I.
Think
that's
important
in
addition
and
I've
told
Greg
this
before
I'd
love
to
see
more
garbage
cans
around
the
city,
so
that
I
don't
have
to
keep
picking
up
the
garbage
on
the
streets
which
I
do
every
day.
Thank
you.
A
AC
U
A
U
Ahead,
oh
so,
it
appears
to
me
that
this
resolution
was
just
a
template
that
was
picked
up
from
something
else,
because
in
reading
this
there's
a
significant
increase
in
scope
for
this
committee,
based
on
what
we
had
originally
talked
about,
we
had
originally
talked
about
a
60-day
time
frame
that
they
needed
to
come
back
well.
This
specifically
says
that
it's
open-ended
also,
it
says
that
they,
the
scope,
has
grown
to
increase,
estimating
costs
and
source
of
funds.
U
Z
Z
U
J
J
That
was
the
whole
purpose
of
having
a
city
staff
person
manage
the
group
who
could
provide
information
so,
for
example,
if
somebody
said
I
want
to
rebuild
the
building
on
that
location,
they
can
then
get
information
about
what
is
the
cost
to
Construction
in
a
storm
surge,
High
Velocity
area,
so
that
we
don't
waste
a
lot
of
time
if
it's
not
really
a
feasible
idea,
rather
than
just
come
back
with.
Oh
here's,
a
concept
without
any
real
world
grounding
I
mean
that
was
what
I
thought
it
was
supposed
to
be,
but.
A
A
I
I
do
have
a
problem
with
getting
more
structure
to
this,
as
Marcus
alluded
to
I.
Do
I
do
think
that
we're
we're
making
this
way
too
complicated
I
think
we
have
a
committee
that
needs
to
get
together
and
discuss
ideas
and
Concepts
and
have
staff
person
facilitate
those
meetings
to
ensure
that
we
get
something
solid
in
the
form
of
a
report
back
to
the
city
council
and
now
that
we're
getting
into
our
summer
Hiatus
period.
A
That's
why
it's
been
dragged
out
to
August
the
the
report
as
I
understand
it
will
be
submitted
to
the
city
council
at
the
the
one
meeting
we
have
in
August
I.
Believe
it's
the
23rd
when
we
come
back
from
summer
break
so
I
I
do
I
agree
with
you,
Mark
I
think
it's
way
too
complicated.
I
think
this
is.
A
K
So
sure,
if
further
answer
the
questions,
first
of
all,
I
I
have
a
question
for
the
attorney
I
guess
I
can
defer
everything
instead
of
answering
it,
so
the
bylaws
themselves
are
they
required,
because
this
is
a
committee
appointed
by
the
council
or
can
the
committee
they
already
have
the
defined
dates.
It's
a
60-day
thing.
What
they're
supposed
to
do
the
council's
already
directed
that?
H
That
well
I
try
the
the
resolution
for
the
most
part,
I
I,
think
there's
nothing
in
here
that
doesn't
need
to
be
in
here
and
there's
nothing
in
here.
That
actually
needs
to
be
in
here,
so
leaving
it.
The
way
it
is
I
think
is
no
harm,
no
foul.
It
actually
answers
questions
that
could
arise.
If
anybody
wanted
to
know
you
know
you
know,
can
we
get
paid
for
for
this?
So
it
answers
that
question.
I!
H
Think
for
one
thing
that
needs
to
be
provided
for
if
I
heard
correctly
from
the
discussion.
The
last
time
and
this
morning
that
section
12
that
doesn't
provide
a
an
end
date
should
provide
an
end
date.
If
it's
60
days,
it
should
be
60
days
and
they
can
come
back
before
you
if
and
and
request
more
time
if
they
want
to,
but
but
I
think
that
the
fact
that
that
there
is
a
desire
to
have
an
end
date
is
is
appropriate.
I
mean
most
of
most
of
what
is
in
here,
I
think
is
beneficial.
H
H
The
bylaws
are
not
required,
but
they
I
think
are
helpful,
and
since
you
already
have
something
that's
structured,
we
can.
We
can
simply
tweak
this
one
if
it's
okay
with
with
the
city
council
and
adopt
it
as
tweaked
and
and
then
there
won't
be
any
other
questions
raised
with
respect
to
what
this
group
is
going
to
be
doing
when
they,
when
they
engage
in
their
their
service.
On
behalf
of
the
city.
Z
16
th
and
it's
their
first
meeting
and
I
just
wanted
to
comment
about
the
sort
of
open-endedness.
The
only
reason
we
wrote
it.
That
way
was
because
we've
been
working
with
Mr
Nodine
and
we
were
having
trouble
getting
meeting
space,
and
so
that
was
pushing
it
out
a
little
bit
further
to
have
the
meetings
and
we
just
wanted
to
allow
them.
You
know
sufficient
time
realizing
that
Council
wants
this
quickly,
but
that,
with
at
this
last
minute
sort
of
time
frame,
it's
been
difficult
to
find
meeting
space.
So.
Y
K
Impacted,
but
it
is
still
60
days
and
the
other
thing
is
with
regard
to
impact
and
financial
impact
funding.
Etc
funding
is
more
difficult
really
than
the
than
the
General
Financial
parameters.
Simply
because
until
you
know
what
you're
going
to
do,
you
don't
know
where
you
can
go
for
funding,
but
when
I
was
referencing
that
when
I
summarized
things
what
I
was
talking
about
was
when
this
report
comes
back
and
staff
has
to
present
something
to
council.
K
If
there's
an
area
that
is
I'll,
be
you
know,
facetious
10
feet
below
sea
level,
as
opposed
to
something
that's
already
built
above
a
parking
structure.
Obviously,
you're
going
to
be
able
to
tell
Council
that
hey
the
financial
impact
of
building
in
a
Red
Zone,
building
in
philosophy,
Zone
et
cetera,
is
going
to
be
much
more
extreme,
given
that
location
than
a
different
one,
not
that
the
committee
itself
would
be
able
to
identify
Financial
aspects
or
anything
else,
because
their
task
is
really
to
identify
some
location.
K
U
So,
based
on
that
I
mean
I
I,
agree
with
you
that
I
don't
think
we
need
the
resolution
at
all.
However,
if
we
are
going
to
go
forward
with
the
resolution,
then
the
three
tweaks
that
I
would
make
to
this
number
one.
It
needs
to
have
an
end
date
60
days.
They
need
to
present
it
in
the
August
meeting
number
two
they're
not
going
to
estimate
construction
costs.
That's
a
staff
function
that
needs
to
come
out
number
three
they're
not
going
to
identify
source
of
funds.
That's
staff,
they're,
gonna,
that
that
needs
to
come
out.
J
Okay
also
now
that
I
think
about
it
to
have
a
chair
and
a
vice
chair
on
a
five-person
committee
is
silly,
it's
silly
so
because
I
always
thought
that
was
the
the
role
of
the
staff
leader
of
the
group.
I
mean
these
are
five
constituents
and
if
you
know,
if
you
get
into
the
chair,
can't
make
resolutions
or
vote
right
yeah,
they
can't
recommend
so
I
mean
it's
five
people
for
God's
sake,
so.
H
No
I'm
hoping
to
clarify
a
little
bit,
you
know
again.
Basically,
a
resolution
is
nothing
more
than
a
writing
of
emotion.
That
may
be
done
verbally
and
I.
Think
it's
helpful
that
there
is
a
written
resolution,
but
I
would
suggest
that
you
know
so
far.
I've
heard
that
we
should
take
out
the
last
sentence
in
section
two.
Regarding
purpose,
we
should
delete
the
section
we
five
relating
to
officers,
delete
section
six
relating
to
vacancies
and
provide
us
provide
60
days
is
the
duration
of
the
Committee
in
section
12..
M
E
A
E
A
G
A
H
Yes,
this
is
a
resolution
which
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
Florida,
amending
the
budget
for
the
fiscal
year,
beginning
October,
1st
2022,
by
providing
for
supplemental
Appropriations
in
the
amounts
identified
in
exhibit
a
providing
for
severability
and
providing
an
effective
date.
Q
Good
morning
Chris
and
Simeone
Finance
director,
these
supplemental
Appropriations
are
for
insurance,
recoveries
and
the
associated
repairs
to
Vehicles
equipment
and
signage
and
lights,
as
well
as
extra
interest
income
for
the
purchase
of
trash
carts
and
the
sanitation
fund.
That
particular
section
totaled,
a
93
590.51
as
an
increase
to
the
budget
and
then
to
appropriate
the
funds
that
are
needed
for
the
to
start.
The
construction
for
the
sea
walls,
total
construction
estimate
right
now
with
just
the
contractors
that
are
doing
the
replacement
of
the
sea
walls.
Q
A
A
G
W
A
H
So
I
make
no
claims
about
my
sanity
all
right.
So
this
is
a
resolution
which
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
Florida,
declaring
the
city's
official
intent
the
seek
reimbursement
for
certain
Capital
expenditures
made
or
to
be
made
with
respect
to
the
repairs
and
Replacements
to
damage
portions
of
the
city's
Seawall
and
capital
expenditures
related
to
Hazard
mitigation,
from
the
proceeds
of
its
not
to
exceed
60
million
dollars,
Revenue
Bond
notes
or
line
of
credit
notes
and
providing
for
an
effective
date.
Q
Again,
Kristen
Simeone
for
the
record,
so
this
resolution
will
allow
the
city,
as
we
go
out,
for
the
request
for
proposals
for
our
financing
of
our
Seawall
reconstruction
Hazard
mitigation
for
Hurricane
Irma,
because
that
particular
line
of
credit.
The
draw
period
ends
June
30th
of
this
year,
because
the
permitting
took
a
lot
longer
and
Hazard
what
we
anticipate
also
for
hazard
mitigation
for
Hurricane
Ian.
Q
So
talking
to
financial,
our
financial
advisor
and
our
bond
Council.
They
express
the
opinion
that
we
should
have
a
higher
not
to
exceed
number
of
the
60
million.
We
currently
in
finance
do
not
think
we
will
need
the
60
million.
We
think
more
around
the
50
million
dollar
range,
but
because
of
inflationary
costs
that
they're
seeing
out
in
the
market.
They
just
wanted
us
to
be
prepared
in
case
some
of
our
costs
came
in
higher,
as
we
still
have
to
go
out
to
bid
for
our
projects
and
the
hazard
mitigation.
K
Q
Q
K
G
A
Contractors
that
have
already
set
up
their
their
sites
to
stage
and
up
and
get
ready
to
do
the
sea
wall
restoration
and
we
have
to
pay
them
as
they
go
sure.
We
can't
just
have
people
working
for
us
that
we
don't
pay.
So
that's.
It
was
critically
important
that
we
got
this
established
and
get
everything
in
motion
so
that,
as
FEMA
approves
the
the
program
going
forward.
We'll.
Q
G
A
Opposed
motion
carries
unanimously
and
Kristen
what,
before
we
leave
this
subject
in
this
in
this
agenda
item
and
in
fact
the
previous
one
there
was
mention
of
the
special
use
fund,
I
would
like
to
have
your
department.
Please
present
a
complete
breakdown
of
the
special
use
fund
from
start
to
finish
and
give
it
to
us
at
one
of
the
next
two
City
Council
meetings.
A
Please,
we
we
kind
of
lose
track
of
that,
because
it's
sitting
out
there
in
a
escrow
account
somewhere
I'd
like
to
see
where
we
stand
with
that
with
that
fund
and
what
money
Still
Remains
in
there
sure
we'll
do
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay,
consent
agenda.
Does
anyone
have
anything
they
wish
to
pull?
This
would
be
the
minutes
from
the
May
17th
meeting
and
the
icard
mayoral
invoice.
Nope
move
to
approve,
certainly.
E
G
A
Q
Q
and
you
can
see
where
we
started
at
with
Personnel
operating
and
recycling
costs.
Total
operations
came
to
approximately
2.4
million
projected
through
fiscal
year,
2023
we're
at
4.3
million,
and
you
can
see
the
various
percentages,
so
personnel
and
operating
excluding
recycling.
When
you
add
those
two
together
would
be
approximately
a
55
increase.
Recycling
costs
have
gone
up
in
that
time
over
300
percent
and
total
operations
81.4
percent.
Q
On
the
next
slide,
you
see
how
the
Staffing
was
and
how
many
approximate
residential
units
we
had
during
this
time
frame
as
well.
So
staff
has
been
at
19
just
two
years
ago.
They
did
go
up
to
20.,
so
you
have
a
5.3
percent
increase
in
Staffing.
The
residential
units
have
gone
up.
Approximately
23.8
percent.
K
Q
Correct
so
then
you
have
our
rate
history.
So
again
we're
going
to
start
with
the
2006.
Since
that's
like
our
Baseline,
we
were
at
17
for
refuse
and
yard
waste
and
recycling
was
approximately
two
dollars
and
20
cents
for
a
total
of
19.20
recycling
costs
have
an
increasing
over
more
years,
because
we
do
Outsource
that
program
and
in
this
fiscal
year
we're
at
6.96,
which
is
a
216
increase
in
fiscal
year.
23
we're
at
18.60
for
refuse
and
yard
waste,
which
is
a
9.4
percent.
Q
Q
So,
looking
at
next
year,
like
where
we're
at
for
original
budget
fiscal
year,
23
to
the
proposed
fiscal
year,
24.
again,
we
have
increases
in
Personnel,
it's
approximately
7.8
percent.
Overall
and
again,
we've
had
some
turnover,
but
in
our
pay
plan
we
did
have
like
a
14
increase
for
the
employees
in
fiscal
year
23
and
then,
of
course,
we
do.
Project
Merit
increases
in
the
next
year.
Q
Operating
and
recycling
you
can
see
is
approximately
two
and
a
half
percent
and
we'll
go
over
some
of
the
things
that
we've
seen
increases
in
versus.
We
only
have
one
that
really
kind
of
had
a
decrease
which
was
gasoline
and
we'll
go
over
that
and
the
recycling
increase
approximately
5.4
percent
increase.
Q
K
Q
So,
currently,
the
fiscal
year
24
would
be
balanced
with
our
current
Staffing
level
of
20..
Again
we
talked
about
the
salaries
and
wages
increase.
Health
insurance
is
estimated
increase
of
10
percent
versus
the
six
percent
we
normally
would
use.
That
was
just
based
from
again
from
our
HR
manager
who
attends
those
conferences.
The
Workers
Compensation
Insurance
estimated
increases
10
percent
administrative
charges
currently
we're
at
three
percent.
We
won't
know
the
final
numbers
per
fund
until
we
finish
up
all
of
our
budgeting
for
all
the
funds,
but
we
currently
estimate
three
percent
computer
overhead.
W
Q
A
lot
of
the
projects
that
it
is
seeing
now
and
that
are
used
city-wide
by
the
funds
are
subscription
based.
So
you
have
these
Annual
fees
that
are
going
versus
like
buying
a
big
piece
of
equipment
and
posting
our
own
servers,
and
that
you
have
time
for
depreciation
the
purpose
of
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
these
companies.
These
are
just
their
models
nowadays,
they're,
not
wanting
you
to
do
your
own
type
of
stuff.
K
And
this
is
an
allocation.
We
have
allocations
for
ID
through
all
the
funds
based
on
their
cost
and
then
what
that
fund
has
to
pay
to
offset
that
whole
infrastructure
program.
So
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
any
and
a
lot
of
people
say:
well,
it's
a
racket
and
yada
yada,
and
it
is.
But
you
know,
we've
done
a
lot
of
research
on
other
surrounding
agencies
and
you
used
to
be
able
to
have.
You
know:
100
computers,
that
each
needed
Microsoft
Word
and
you
could
buy
licenses
for
Microsoft
Word,
and
that
was
it
now.
K
You
can't.
If
you
do
that
and
try
to
install
them.
There
will
be
no
support
on
the
back
end
and
you
have
to
buy
a
subscription
base
so
that
they
will
provide
Microsoft
Word,
give
you
the
licenses
for
the
number
of
computers
you
need
and
update
those
as
appropriate,
or
else
the
software
itself
is
out
of
service
is
vulnerable
to
any
viruses
or
hacking
attempts
that
are
out
there.
Anything
that
makes
the
network
vulnerable
because
they
just
won't
support
it.
P
K
Q
So
recycling
has
budgeted
increase
again,
based
on
what
was
submitted
on
the
5.3
percent
increase
the
fuel
budgeted.
This
is
the
one
that
has
a
decrease
so
compared
to
fiscal
year.
23
last
year,
when
we
were
discussing
this
at
this
time,
our
fuel
rates
were
Sky
High.
They
were
over
five
dollars,
we're
able
to
bring
that
down
to
four
dollars
and
20
cents.
For
fiscal
year,
2024.
Q
K
Property
insurance,
for
example,
if
we're
paying
half
million
dollars
in
the
general
fund,
it's
going
to
go
to
a
million
or
a
half
million.
What's
going
to
go
to
a
million,
so
we're
actually
looking
at
a
infrastructure
analysis
if
we
have
I
use
a
pumping
station,
for
example,
we
have
our
pumping
stations
that
are
Parts
part
of
our
lost
mitigation.
Can
we
replace
a
pumping
station
more
cheaply
than
we
can
insure
it
and
taking
things
off
the
list
to
bring
that
cost
back
down?
K
Q
Okay:
okay,
we
are
still
leaving
some
funds
in
there
for
contractual
services
for
temporary
labor
again
to
help
fund
those
vacations
for
our
employees,
sick,
leave,
FMLA
injuries
or
employee
turnover.
So
that's
fifty
thousand
cost
for
Commodities
are
still
kind
of
still
going
up
six
to
ten
percent,
we're
estimating,
hopefully
that
will
start
slowing
down
some,
but
you
know
that's
based
on
the
market,
so
repairs
for
equipment
have
increased
significantly,
also
due
to
increase
in
the
parts
and
vendor
labor.
Just
like
work
speaking
Yeah
we're
spent
experiencing
labor
increases.
Q
Q
So
this
is
our
five-year
current
plan
for
the
Packer
Replacements.
One
new
item
is
the
pole
barn.
We
currently
have
it
scheduled
in
fiscal
year
25.
We
were
just
trying
to
make
the
pro
forma
work.
If
there
are
any
funds
remaining
at
the
end
of
fiscal
year
23
the
division
may
be
asking
for
reappropriation
to
maybe
fund
that
in
fiscal
year,
24.
K
It's
interesting
because
you
know
with
the
UV
index
in
Florida,
you
sit
these
trucks
outside
and
even
their
hydraulic
hoses
and
tires,
and
everything
else
are
subject
to
UV
deteriorate
more
quickly.
I
mean
the
pole.
Barn
to
protect
them
from
some
of
the
elements
in
some
cases
makes
a
big
difference.
Q
This
pole,
barn
would
not
house
all
of
the
Packers,
but
it
would
be
used
for
when
they're
working
on
the
Packers
to
keep
the
employees
out
of
the
Sun,
and
so
this
is
the
pro
forma
again,
based
on
what
we've
discussed
in
the
out
years.
You'll
also
have
to
see
that
we
had
to
put
in
financing
and
that's
if
we're,
keeping
everything
trying
to
keep
everything
at
a
dollar
per
year.
We'll
probably
revisit
that
as
we
get
close
to
it.
Q
Because
again,
if
we're
going
to
have
to
finance
every
Packer,
you
still
have
to
do
the
replacement.
So
it's
still
going
to
be
the
same
costs.
So
it
might
not
really
make
sense
to
do
that.
It
may
make
sense
at
some
point
to
bite
the
bullet
and
increase
a
little
bit
more
in
one
of
the
outer
years
or
as
we
get
there.
Q
So
then
you
see
The
Debt
Service,
coming
in
in
fiscal
year,
27
and
28.
and
again
the
operating
reserves.
You
can
see
for
2024
they're
they're,
pretty
okay,
the
11
almost
11
percent,
but
in
2025
that
might
be
a
little
low,
but
sometimes
we
do
have
some
savings.
So
again
we
would
address
that
next
year.
Q
So
again,
this
is,
we
just
try
to
show
a
tentative
rate
change
of
what's
currently
So.
Currently
we
have
the
dollar
per
year
in
the
refuse
and
yard
waste
and
the
recycling.
We
estimate
at
six
percent
increases
each
year
just
based
on
currently
past
experience,
but
we
would
revisit
this
again
every
year
and
at
some
point
those
those
outer
years
might
really
need
to
be
a
little
bit
higher.
Q
Q
K
Q
U
Kristen,
yes,
can
you
because
we
get
this
comment
every
year
when
we
talk
about
the
sanitation
and
the
once
a
week
versus
twice
a
week,
and
people
suggest,
especially
from
up
North,
that
we
don't
need
twice
a
week
only
need
once
a
week,
but
there's
really
you've
explained
it
before
that.
There's
really
not
much
of
a
difference.
Can
you
just
address
that
for
anybody?
That's
listening.
K
G
K
A
K
A
A
A
They're
more
expensive
than
we
are
twice
a
week
and
if
you
look
at
that
chart
all
the
counties,
basically
they
look
like
their
numbers
are
lower
than
ours,
but
they're
mostly
once
a
week,
and
most
of
them
are
all
outsourced
at
the
county
level
and
I.
Don't
I,
don't
support
that
either.
I
think
I
think
what
we've
got
is
incredible
and
our
staff
is
wonderful.
They
are
beloved
by
our
residents.
A
We've
had
so
many
discussions
about
that
and,
quite
frankly,
if
you
watch
the
news
on
six
o'clock
news
any
given
day,
you
hear
complaints
about
some
of
the
other
recycling
companies
that
we
don't
use.
Our
our
representative
from
waste
management
is
here
today
and
God
bless
you
guys,
because
you
do
a
phenomenal
job
for
us
phenomenal
job
if
they,
if
they
even
so
much
as
drop
a
plastic
milk
jug
on
the
ground,
the
guy
gets
out
of
the
truck
and
picks
it
up.
Q
K
M
Z
Okay,
just
a
few
things
under
boards
and
committees,
announcement
of
vacancies,
historic
preservation,
Advisory
Board
to
alternates
and
the
Punta
Gorda
Housing
Authority.
We
have
one
new
vacancy
under
nominations
for
the
code
enforcement
board.
We
have
two
seats
for
alternates
and
you
did
have
a
couple
of
folks
introduced
themselves
today.
I
think
we
have
one
person
coming
to
the
next
meeting
when
the
appointments
will
be
made.
I
just
need
a
nomination
for
all
parties.
If
you
would
like
to
do
that
so.
Z
So
in
the
meantime,
we
had
considered
her
for
planning
she
wanted
to
serve
on
a
board.
Her
interest
is
the
code
enforcement
board.
She
would
rather
not
take
the
alternate
on
the
Planning
Commission
as
much
as
she
appreciated
being
selected.
Her
preference
would
is
Code
Enforcement,
so
just
for
your
information.
U
Z
Z
Z
Z
A
Don't
think
that
has
to
be
a
hard
fast
rule.
I
I
mean
we
talked
about
it,
but
we
didn't.
We
there's,
never
been
an
official
rule
put
in
place
that
they
can't
serve
on
more
than
one
board,
and
we
had
several
people
that
were
on
a
couple
of
boards.
I
would
I
would
suggest
no
more
than
two
boards,
because
in
some
cases
there
are
very
valuable
people
who
serve
on
two
boards.
A
U
U
J
I
mean
not
to
belaborate
the
point,
but
I
distinctly.
Remember.
In
fact,
there
were
two
Sun
articles
about
the
council's
deliberations
on
qualifications
for
people
who
were
appointed
to
boards
their
unhappiness
with
how
the
Planning
Commission
had
run,
and
so
it
was
it
was
talked
about
so
and
and
I
got
the
distinct
feeling
from
the
commentary
that
we
were
going
down.
The
path
of
you
were
only
going
to
serve
on
one
board,
so
I'm
just
pointing
that
out.
That's.
G
Z
G
Z
Z
A
Z
A
I've
known
him
for
quite
a
long
time,
I
know
he
had
some
personal
health
issues
that
he
was
dealing
with
and
I
believe
that's
fixed,
and
it's
done
now
so
that
could
have
some
bearing
on
why
he
was
out
of
town,
because
I
know
he
was
getting
treatments,
it's
very
possible.
That
was
the
reason
why
he
missed
some
meetings.
A
A
J
J
Z
H
H
H
H
The
item
at
this
time
again
I
am
certainly
open
to
receive
any
type
of
explanation,
legally
or
otherwise,
as
to
why
it
has
to
be
the
city
lending
this
money
and
whatever
assistance
they
can
provide
from
a
case
law
perspective
or
other
type
of
legal
perspective
as
to
how
the
city
has
the
authority
to
lend
the
money
to
North
Star
in
the
first
instance
again,
I
have
no
problem
that
the
city
lends
the
money
to
the
Housing
Authority.
We
have
the.
H
H
I
just
don't
have
the
the
level
of
comfort
that
I
need
with
respect
to
the
city,
lending
the
money
directly
to
Northstar
and
so
we'll
see
what
they
come
back
with,
but
I
wanted.
You
to
understand
where
I,
where
I
am
on
this
position
and
I'm
not
trying
to
be
obstructionist
in
any
way
shape
or
form.
Thank
you.
A
A
Let's
see
we
were
the
council,
members
are
invited
to
a
that's
sort
of
a
welcome
update
sort
of
thing
at
the
Meridian
senior
senior
assisted
living
facility,
which
was
going
to
take
place
on
the
21st
at
noon.
That
is
the
day
of
our
city
council
meeting
I've
informed
them
that
if
council
members
are
coming
at
all,
that
would
probably
be
late
because
we
don't
necessarily
get
completed
by
noon,
but
I'll
make
sure
you
all
get
a
copy
of
that
invitation.
A
A
I
would
ask
that
if
anybody
in
the
audience
or
anybody
watching
is
planning
to
go
drop
me
an
email
and
let
me
know
so,
I
can
help
him
with
assisting
him
with
the
number
of
people
that
may
be
showing
up
that
day,
because
they're
trying
to
plan
for
food
and
beverage
and
other
things
but
and
parking
is
of
course
going
to
be
a
premium,
because
it's
a
construction
site
so
but
but
I
want
to
invite
everybody
to
go.
It's
I
think
it's
going
to
be
great
to
support
them.
A
They've
been
great
in
the
community
as
far
as
being
Partners
being
philanthropic,
they've
supported
a
lot
of
military
families
and
first
responder
families
over
the
years
and
done
numerous
services
for
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
people
in
the
community.
So
I
really
hope
that
we
can
come
out
and
mass
and
support
them.
U
J
But
in
this
case
this
came
as
a
total
surprise.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
now
is
not
the
time
to
start.
Looking
at
what
our
leases
say:
I
mean
I
for
one.
If
we're
going
to
lease
the
space
for
a
dollar
a
year,
you
want
it
to
be
serving
a
public
purpose.
I'm,
not
saying
that
this
doesn't
because
essentially,
his
service
is
to
help
local
entrepreneurs
and
other
people
figure
out
how
to
do
business
with
government.
J
I
mean
that's
his
that's
what
he
does
I,
don't
know
if
that's
Cooper,
Street,
board's,
Mission
or
not,
but
I
think
we
really
need
to
have
some
policy.
I
also
don't
know
if
we
want
the
people
that
we're
leasing
to
to
be
subleasing
to
a
bunch
of
other
organizations
and
I
just
don't
know
where
our
policy
is
or
if
anybody's
thought
about
that.
But
I
was
hoping
that
perhaps,
if
I
bring
it
up,
David
will
look
into
it.
K
I
don't
know
before
you
push
your
button.
If
I
could
say
you
know,
I
looked
at.
Evidently
the
gentleman
was
under
the
impression
that
the
city
had
sanctioned
this,
and
was
you
know
thanking
the
city
that
knew
nothing
about
it,
but
when
I
look
at
some
of
the
information,
Small
Business
Development
Corporation
of
FGCU,
which
is
not
uncommon
to
be
funded
through
colleges
like
that
I,
don't
know
if
fgfcu
is
public,
private
or
whatever,
but
you
know
falling
under
the
public
purpose.
K
Is
it
a
private
company
it's
being
leased
to
some
of
the
other
information
that
may
be
needed
from
the
board
there,
that
it
seems
that
the
board
was
not
100
aware
of
those
type
things?
If
that's
something
that
we
could
get
the
lease
and
just
potentially
request
some
information
from
them?
Maybe
we
could
work
on
finding
out.
You
know
some
of
the
detail
and
if
indeed,
that
is
the
public
purpose,
that's
intended
when
you
have
that
type
of
dollar
a
year
lease,
for
example,
I
mean
it's
really
for
the
public.
H
H
With
respect
to
any
particular
lease,
that's
one
I
am
asked
to
take
a
look
at
it
and,
more
often
than
not,
you
know
the
there's
a
wide
range
of
of
specificity
and
and
complexity
in
those
leases.
At
some
point
in
time,
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
get
on
a
uniform
lease
for
most
of
our
properties,
I
will
take
a
look
at
the
Cooper
Street,
at
least
as
you've
requested
and
and
any
others
that
come.
You
know
come
to
your
attention.
J
Substantially
I
just
I,
just
wonder
if
you
know
again
we're
providing
the
land
in
the
case
of
Cooper
Street.
It
was
the
land
down
the
building
and
it
just
I
don't
know
if
we
were
doing
it
because
we
were
going
to
be
hosting
other
businesses
or
organizations
that
aren't
really
specifically
focused
on
that
particular
Community,
which
is
what
I
thought.
The
purpose
was
as.
H
A
general
proposition
most
of
the
leases,
I
suspect,
would
have
a
a
term
in
there
that
essentially
says
that
the
lease
may
be
terminated
if
the
city
determines
that
there's
a
Paramount
public
interest
to
do
so.
So
the
city
council,
with
with
some
rare
exception,
has
the
ability
to
control
what's
happening
at
their
leases
and,
if
necessary,
to
restructure
them.
If
they've
gone
off
in
a
Direction,
that's
inconsistent
with
the
city's
intent.
H
A
V
W
So
I
I
really
wasn't
intending
on
having
any
comment
but
to
to
to
Donna's
comment.
Yeah
I
mean
every
everybody
knows
where
I
stand
with
our
previous
conversation
and
I
actually
had
asked
Melissa
to
send
me
a
list
of
all
the
leases
that
the
city
has
and
personally
I
agree.
I
would
like
all
of
them
looked
at.
Of
course
you
don't
know
that
you
haven't
been
here
for
50
years,
and
that
again
goes
to
my
comment
as
to
seems.
H
E
I
just
want
to
set
the
record
straight
I
sat
here
during
the
memorial
service
with
commissioner
Deutsch
and
when
the
video
was
finished.
Both
of
us
had
tears
in
her
eyes
and
he
put
that
in
the
paper
and
said
that
I
was
in
the
Navy
and
I
was
not
in
the
Navy
I'm
Air
Force
I
just
want
to
get
that
record
straight.
G
A
It
was
we
had
a
Marathon
Memorial,
Day
council,
member
dreyberg
and
I
kind
of
followed
each
other
from
one
to
the
next
to
the
next,
but
there
were
there
were
numerous
ceremonies
that
took
place
and
they
were
all
really
really
moving
and
and
very
as
as
honored
and
proud
to
be
part
of
all
of
it,
and
and
thank
you
and
thank
you
Donna
you
were
there
and
I.
Don't
know.
Was
anybody
else
in
any
of
them?
A
You
know
I
know
you
were
you
were
busy
with
the
other
stuff,
yeah
yeah,
the
we
we
did
the
Vietnam
Wall
and
then
we
did
the
American
Legion
Post
on
Taylor
Road,
and
then
we
went
to
the
military
Heritage
Museum
ceremony
and
the
military
Heritage
Museum
ceremony
was
very
moving.
It
was
there
were
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
wet
tears,
running
down
people's
faces,
so.