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Regular City Council Meeting 2-1-2023
A
B
C
A
A
E
A
E
A
F
Good
morning
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
February
1st
2023
city
council
meeting,
let
the
record
reflect
that
all
city,
council
members
and
City
officials
are
present.
Would
you
please
stand
and
join
us
for
the
invocation
followed
by
The
Pledge
and
if
you
are
wearing
a
hat,
please
take
it
off
for
us.
Thank
you.
E
E
Please
help
us
walk
in
such
a
manner
that
you
shine
through
us
that
every
person
we
meet
may
feel
your
presence
in
our
soul
take
our
hand
because
we
cannot
make
it
by
ourselves.
Father
we
pray
for
our
nation,
we
pray
for
our
state,
we
pray
for
our
County.
We
pray
for
our
city
that
you
bring
Revival
to
your
people.
Father
bless
this
city
council
and
the
decisions
they
make
today
in
this
chamber
that
they
may
be
a
blessing
to
you
and
the
people
of
Punta
Gorda
and
what
God's
people
said
amen.
F
Okay,
before
we
get
into
agenda
I'd
like
to
bring
up,
and
that
is
agenda-
item
nine,
nine,
a
if
it's
okay
with
all
of
you
I
would
like
to
move
that
up
as
soon
as
we
complete
the
public
input
we'll
do
that
before
we
adjourn
as
counsel
and
convene
as
CRA
and
then
we'll
have
Mr
Butler
can
be
seated
if
it's
approved.
Okay,
all
right.
G
But
after
Hurricane,
Ian
Meals
on
Wheels
lost
their
kitchen
and
they
were
left
wondering
how
they
would
continue
to
provide
meals
to
those
seniors
in
need:
Chef,
Keith
Meyer
and
his
wife
Stacy.
If
you're
not
aware
of
the
owners
of
FM
Dons
here
in
Punta
Gorda,
they
heard
about
this
and
they
stepped
up
without
even
being
asked
so
Chef
Keith
is
using
his
kitchen
at
FM.
Dons
prepares
approximately
135
meals
three
days
a
week
for
our
elderly
homebound
residents.
Of
course,
don't
forget,
he's
also
still
running
his
restaurant
at
FM
Don's.
G
On
top
of
all
that,
he
and
Stacy
are
doing
this
out
of
the
kindness
of
their
hearts
and
the
love
for
our
community,
so
Chef,
Keith
and
Stacy.
The
city
of
Punta
Gorda,
wanted
to
thank
you
for
all.
You
do
for
our
seniors
in
the
community,
and
we
have
a
small
token
of
our
appreciation.
If
you
would
come
down
please
and
accept.
A
H
H
F
F
The
next
item
of
business
is
a
proclamation
and
I
think
we've
started
something
with
all
of
our
Centennial
residents,
which
is
kind
of
a
cool
thing.
This
is
a
proclamation
that
we're
I'm
going
to
read
that
is
being
awarded
to
a
resident
who
cannot
be
with
us
today,
because
she's
she's,
103
years
old
and
she
her
son
Edward,
is
here
to
accept
on
her
behalf.
So
I
would
like
to
read
this
Proclamation
for
her,
whereas
Anne
sentiven
was
was
born
in
Cincinnati
Ohio.
F
Almost
103
excuse
me,
103
years
ago
to
hard-working
German
immigrant
parents.
Her
mom
was
a
housewife
and
her
father
was
a
carpenter
and
whereas
Anne
met
her
future
husband,
Ed
wasp
on
a
blind
date
when
he
was
visiting
from
Chicago
after
their
first
meeting
they
courted
by
mail.
She
wrote
to
him
in
the
morning
post
and
he
wrote
back
in
the
afternoon.
F
They
married
after
he
graduated
from
law
school,
but
their
time
together
was
not
long
as
he
was
called
up
by
the
Armed
Forces
to
serve
in
Europe
during
World
War
II
and
whereas,
after
Ed
returned
from
the
war,
they
moved
where
his
work
as
a
corporate
lawyer
and
commercial
mortgage
broker
took
them.
They
moved
to
Punta
Gorda
in
1972.
Back
in
the
days
when
Fisherman's
Village
was
just
a
war,
for
you
could
get
crabs
right
off
the
boat
and
whereas
Ann
loves
family
friends
and
competitive
Sports.
F
Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
Florida,
does
hereby
Proclaim
February
4
2023,
as
Ann
sentiment
was
day
passed
and
Julie
adopted
in
regular
session.
This
first
day
of
February
2023
signed
Leonard
Matthews
mayor
and
her
son
Edward
is
here
to
accept
on
her
behalf,
foreign.
F
It's
kind
of
cool
that
we
have
people
in
our
community
that
are
still
with
us
after
100
years
or
more
and
honestly,
these
last
two
that
we've
just
done
are
it's
just
amazing
to
me
to
listen
to
the
life
stories
of
some
of
our
residents
so
moving
along
the
next
thing.
We're
going
to
do
is
public
comments
and
I
have
some
housekeeping
notes
that
I
will
read
before
we
begin
that
please
silence
all
personal
devices
as
this
meeting
is
being
recorded
and
it
disrupts
the
proceedings
when
phones
go
off
during
the
meeting.
F
There
is
a
Code
of
Conduct
in
the
council
chambers
and
members
of
the
public
should
familiarize
themselves
with
the
rules.
Members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
address
the
council
should
use
the
guest
Podium
at
the
center
of
the
room.
The
podium
to
the
right
of
the
stage
is
for
staff
and
applicant
presentations
only
speak
directly
into
the
microphone
and
begin
by
stating
your
name
for
the
record.
If
it
is
a
quasi-judicial
hearing,
please
also
indicate
whether
you
have
been
sworn
in.
Each
person
will
have
three
minutes
to
speak
and
sharing
minutes
is
not
permitted.
F
Speakers
are
to
address
all
comments
to
the
city
council,
not
the
audience
or
any
one.
Individual
council
member
discussion
between
speakers
and
members
of
the
audience
is
not
permitted
when
there
are
many
individuals
who
wish
to
speak.
Speakers
should
try
not
to
reiterate
lengthy
comments
made
by
others
to
ensure
an
effective
and
efficient
meeting.
This
ensures
everyone
has
a
chance
to
speak
audience
and
speakers
will
be
courteous
in
their
language
and
presentation,
no
applause,
sidebar
conversations
or
booing
before,
during
or
after
any
speaker.
Please
refrain
from
talking
in
the
audience.
During
the
meeting.
F
A
copy
of
any
supporting
documents
displayed
during
the
meeting
must
be
provided
to
the
city
clerk
and
they
become
part
of
the
permanent
record.
The
citizen
comments
portion
of
the
meeting
is
not
intended
to
be
a
question
and
answer
session.
This
is
for
citizen
comments.
Only
council
members
should
refrain
from
answering
impromptu
questions
or
debate
issues
with
members
of
the
public,
and
with
that
said,
we
will
open
up
the
floor
for
public
comments.
F
I
Wendy
Mueller
I'm
a
part
of
smart
growth,
and
we
put
out
a
petition
started
on
December
29th.
It
ended
on
January
31st.
We
have
more
than
1900
signatures
that
are.
This
petition
is
about
changing
our
zoning,
giving
up
our
public
Street
red
Esplanade,
giving
up
our
public
park
Pittman,
allowing
100-foot
buildings
allowing
no
setbacks
and
taking
away
the
quality
of
life
for
the
people
that
already
exist
in
this
area.
I
Understand
that
2
000
people
volunteered
for
this
they
couldn't
duplicate.
It
is
an
official,
but
it
is
a
petition
to
show
that
your
citizens
are
speaking
out
they're
telling
you
what
they
really
feel
you've
seen
small
signs,
but
what
you
really
really
want
to
understand
is
overcrowding
and
utilizing
a
space
that
was
meant
for
all
of
us
and
making
it
private.
I
I
I
F
J
Hello,
my
name
is
stubby
coudre
people
of
Punta
Gorda
speak
up
before
the
council
decides
what
density
is
good
for
a
project
shouldn't.
You
think
what
is
the
proper
density
for
Punta
Gorda
point:
what
should
safety
and
emergency
acts
for
safety
and
emergency
access?
Our
access
is
limited
and
many
buildings
are
going
up.
Should
the
entrance
exit
be
diverted
from
Fisherman's
Village
to
break
up
the
traffic,
maybe
rutta
to
shrieve
to
a
light
on
41?
Maybe
McKinsey
divide
up
the
traffic.
The
point
needs
good
emergency
access.
J
Traffic
from
Fisherman's
needs
to
be
diverted,
divert
traffic
for
emergency
access.
Also
Sun
Seekers
needs
to
be
told
what
their
access
exit
should
be,
possibly
Bay
Shore
to
Edgewater,
so
the
41
Bridge
won't
be
dumped
upon
with
major
traffic
employees
residents.
All
those
people
should
be
told.
I
know
this
is
a
county
decision
but
same
reference
and
same
idea.
F
F
K
So
we
have,
we
asked
the
county
to
make
their
recommendation
for
a
replacement
and
they
had
they
had
suggested
one
of
the
Commissioners
fill
the
seat,
and
that
did
not
happen.
That
was,
and
so
the
next
recommendation
was
Mr
Gary
Butler
of
the
military,
Heritage
Museum,
and
that's
where
we
are
now
and
Council
just
needs
to
confirm
that
they
would
like
Mr
Butler
to
fill
that
vacancy.
M
G
Is
there
any
just
a
question?
You
know,
I
know
that
CRA
is
going
to
Sunset,
hopefully
in
the
next
couple
years,
we're
not
doing
any
new
projects
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
it's
just
more
maintaining
what
we
already
have
in
the
in
the
funnel
per
se.
So
realistically,
I'm,
not
sure
why
we
really
need
to
have
anybody
else.
Sit
I
mean
we
have
enough
people
with
consensus
with
with
everybody
that
we
have
I,
just
I
personally,
don't
find
it
really
necessary
to
have
somebody
else
sit.
F
G
Also,
just
going
to
State
for
the
record
that
I
think
that
we
as
a
council
should
have
had
the
decision
in
appointing
somebody,
not
the
county.
I
know
that
from
when
I've
had
you
know,
conversations
that's
just
always
been
kind
of
the
unwritten
rule,
but
I
just
want
to
go
on
record
and
say:
I
think
that
we
should
make
that
decision,
not
the
county.
G
K
Oh
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
that
the
council
has
the
ability
to
decline
and
have
them
recommend
someone
else.
The
city
council
could
even
say
tell
the
county
we
would
like
so
and
so
to
serve.
There's
nothing
to
say
they
can't
David
might
have
another
comment.
I
know
he's
had
conversations
with
the
county
attorney
about
this
particular
subject.
G
F
O
I'd
like
to
raise
just
one
comment
and
again:
I
have
the
highest
regard
for
Gary.
Butler
he's
been
a
wonderful
neighbor
to
our
civic
association,
so
this
has
nothing
to
do
with
him,
but
it
did
come
up
in
my
Advisory
Group
that
military
Heritage
Museum
is
benefiting
from
the
city's
rental
of
its
facilities.
While
we're,
you
know,
refurbishing
our
city
hall,
he
is
the
director
of
that
organization.
F
And
I
will
say
this
again.
I've
said
this
numerous
times
as
a
volunteer
member
of
the
board
of
the
military
Heritage
Museum
I
get
no
compensation.
There
is
no
bias.
There
is
no
Prejudice
I.
Almost
everybody
on
this
Council
sits
on
some
board
or
another
board
within
the
county,
and
you
know
we
don't
we
don't
come
as
military
Heritage
Museum.
We
don't
come
before
the
city
council
to
ask
for
special
approvals
for
anything
because
we
are
a
tenant
of
the
owner
of
the
building.
F
So
there
is
no
conflict
there,
not
for
myself,
not
for
Mr
Butler,
so
no
and
I
and
I
never
and
I
will
swear
on
a
stack
of
Bibles
I.
Never
come
to
this
meeting
with
my
mind,
made
up
about
anything.
We're
going
to
vote
on
ever
I,
always
listen
to
what
the
evidence
and
testimony
presented
says
and
I
I
make
my
decision
based
on
what
I,
what
I
hear
and
what
I
observe
at
these
meetings.
So
I
will
just
say
that
for
the
record,
okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
floor.
M
F
F
F
N
Mayor
while
we're
waiting
for
the
technical
aspect
of
the
meeting
to
be
corrected
just
as
a
matter
of
procedure,
it
would
be
appropriate
to
move
up
the
item
on
the
agenda
regarding
the
city,
the
cras
appointment
of
the
representative
item
4f,
just
as
a
just
as
a
matter
of
procedure.
The
CRA
needs
to
acknowledge
that
appointment
and
accept
the
appointment.
F
F
N
There's
really
two
two
legal
official
entities,
the
city
council
and
the
CRA,
and
so
the
CRA
ultimately
has
to
make
the
appointment
sub
to
you
know
as
well
as
the
city
council.
Some
municipalities
have
a
totally
different
membership
on
the
CRA.
We
happen
to
have
the
city
council
being
the
CRA,
with
the
addition
of
two
additional.
A
F
Opposed
proposed
motion
carries
six
to
one
okay.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
citizen
comments.
If
there's
anyone
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
address
the
CRA
on
any
item
on
the
CRA
agenda,
you
may
come
forward
and
you'll
have
three
minutes:
okay,
seeing
none!
The
next
item
is
approval
of
the
minutes
from
the
January
4
2023
meeting.
P
O
F
F
M
C
Thank
you
just
to
go
over
a
little
bit
of
Marina
activity.
You
can
see
that
from
January
we
had
21
annual
slip
leases
prior
year
we
had
27,
so
it's
fairly
consistent,
given
the
number
of
slips
that
are
out
of
service
and
also,
of
course,
the
boats
that
have
moved
currently
semi-annual.
We
have
two
monthly.
We
still
have
19
rentals
as
well
as
a
couple
transients
coming
in
and
out
our
commercial
with
the
Freedom
Boat
Club
stay
steady
at
14.,
The
Moorings.
C
We
did
have
several
of
the
finger
beers
that
were
damaged
and
some
that
are
tied
in
waiting
to
be
repaired,
but
we
had
two
facets
to
that
one.
We
had
three
finger
Piers,
that
the
wave
action
from
prior
storms
had
Twisted
the
metal
brackets
and
they
were
unusable
because
they
were
twisted
and
we
been
working
for
the
last
year
to
get
steel
manufactured
designed
manufactured
and
then
installed.
C
The
contractor
did
contact
us
last
week
and
say
that
within
the
next
couple
weeks,
since
the
material
is
now
fabricated,
they
felt
that
they
would
be
able
to
start
replacing
those.
So
that
will
show
progress
in
those
three
finger:
beers
that
will
then
be
able
to
be
back
in
use
and
the
remaining
project,
of
course,
with
the
Mooring
balls,
the
remaining
finger
Piers
that
need
replaced
fishing,
pier
Etc,
will
be
based
on
the
evaluation.
That
Hans
is
doing
as
the
engineer
for
the
project.
C
Pump
out
vessels
monthly
comparisons,
you
can
see
that
in
December
we
had
60
in
January
we
had
81
and
actually
prior
to
December,
we
had
less
than
60
so
we're
again
moving
up
in
numbers
as
people
reappear
in
the
marina,
with
the
slips
that
we
do
have
available,
we
pumped
out
almost
2
000
gallons
for
81
vessels,
most
of
which
were
registered
locally.
So
that's
2,
000
gallons
of
service.
We're
able
to
provide
to
help
maintain
the
water
quality
in
Charlotte
Harbor.
C
Along
with
that,
when
you
look
quarterly
for
the
last
quarter
of
2022,
we
did
have
159
vessels
and
that's
October,
November
December,
so
even
directly
after
the
hurricane,
most
of
those
were
registered
locally
and
we
pumped
almost
5
000
gallons
in
that
quarter.
So
that's
5,
000
gallons
again
of
material
that
we're
able
to
provide
that
service
free
of
charge,
because
we
have
a
grant
for
that
and
help
protect
the
water
quality
in
Charlotte
Harbor.
C
When
we
come
to
some
of
our
projects,
a
couple
of
the
more
substantial
developments
for
historic
City
Hall,
we
had
a
project
kickoff
meeting
with
the
construction
manager
at
risk,
Crystal
construction
on
January
20th.
They
will
start
to
prepare
an
initial
construction
cost
estimate
based
on
the
60
plans.
C
C
Are
there
different
methods
that
we
can
use
all
the
different
things
that
may
impact
cost
he's
looking
at
ensuring
that
we
get
the
best
calls
possible
and
that
we
can
get
a
cost
not
to
exceed
by
the
time
it's
ready
to
awards
that
we
know
exactly
what
the
project
cost
will
be
for
Gilcrest
Park
if
you've
been
down
Reddit
recently,
I'm
sure
all
of
you
have
that
you
can
see
that
that's
really
moving
along
nicely.
The
intersection
treatments
are
complete.
We
have
a
lot
of
work,
that's
been
completed.
C
We
still
have
a
couple
of
the
site,
furnishings
and
plaques
Etc
that
will
continue
minor
things
to
finish
the
project
by
at
the
latest,
the
end
of
March.
Most
of
that
is
because
things
that
are
back
ordered,
but
as
far
as
the
project
itself,
it's
essentially
complete
and
usable,
even
the
playgrounds
having
heavy
use.
C
Ac
Freeman
house,
I'm
kidding
I'll,
go
back
to
that
AAC
Freeman
house.
We
do
have
when
I
talk
about
Seymour.
We
also
have
one
that
will
review
what
council
will
approve
when
that's
brought
back
in
for
discussion.
As
far
as
the
funding
sources,
the
council
will
have
to
look
at
the
use
of
the
structure
and
where
we're
going
as
far
as
design,
we
already
have
plans
that
were
completed
quite
some
time
ago
that
the
Seymour
will
also
be
looking
at
to
say.
C
This
is
what
it
would
really
cost
you
to
do
that
today,
if
you're
doing
an
external
facility
and
if
you're,
making
sure
that
the
whole
facility
is
usable
top
and
bottom
floors
Etc.
This
is
what
it
would
cost
and
then
we
can
look
at
any
options.
You
would
like
to
see
funding
sources
that
are
potential
potentially
able
to
be
used
and
where
we're
going
to
go
to
start
the
project
and
complete
the
renovation,
we
had,
of
course,
a
little
bit
of
hurricane
damage
there.
C
Lastly,
parked
Splash
Pad.
Obviously
you
know
we
wait
with
beaded
breath
for
that
to
happen,
it's
something
that
we
have
all
the
equipment
in,
and
storage
and
waiting.
Of
course,
the
contractor
that
we
had
was
unable
to
do
the
project
after
the
hurricane,
because
the
amount
of
work
that
the
subcontractors
had.
So
we
are
working
with
the
another
contractor.
That's
a
general
contractor
to
determine
what
kind
of
cost
they
would
provide
to
do
the
project
that
whole
analysis
is
probably
six
to
eight
weeks
out
and
to
determine
exactly
where
we're
going
to
go
with
that.
G
In
regards
to
the
Freeman
house,
it
was
brought
up
by
my
group.
They
just
had
a
question
the
way
that
it's
worded,
it
said
that
we're
are
we
spending
money
on
storm
water
or
is?
Is
it
was
this
something
before
I
guess?
The
question
was:
if
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
what
we
may
do
in
the
future
with
it
was
this
something
already
budgeted
or
how
is
that
working
yeah.
C
C
P
O
N
O
C
F
C
Not
at
all
and
it's
been
blocked
off,
we
know
that
the
hurricane
did
some
damage
there.
We
did
have
an
evaluation,
that's
proposed.
We
were
getting
an
engineer
in
so
they
can
do
the
full
evaluation
and
that'll
be
a
project
to
repair
the
Gazebo.
So
right
now
it's
in
the
works
to
get
an
engineer,
evaluation
on
it.
Well,.
C
F
F
The
other
question
I
have
is
with
regard
to
the
marina.
We
have
a
substantial
amount
of
commercial
vehicle
vehicle
vessels
in
the
in
the
water
in
our
Marina.
If
someone
came
in
with-
let's
just
say
a
fleet
of
boats
that
they
wanted
to
bring
into
that,
Marina
I
know
that
our
submerged
land
lease
requires
that
we
only
have
a
certain
number
of
commercial
vessels.
So
if
somebody
else
wanted
to
come
in
most
of
these
vessels
that
are
there
now
are
owned
by
one
company.
Is
that
correct.
C
F
F
C
N
And
that
is
correct,
I
mean
the
idea.
Is
that
that
the
90
needs
to
be
open
to
the
general
public
on
a
first
come
first
serve
basis,
the
the
10
we
have
the
discretion
as
to
how
we're
going
to
allocate
that
and
since
the
the
leases
are
a
maximum
of
one
year,
if
the
city
decides
to
create
some
sort
of
policy
that
allows
for
a
waiting
list
and
a
rotation
of
the
use
of
those
slips.
Certainly
it's
within
your
prerogative
to
do
so.
Okay,.
F
C
R
R
C
Because
we
don't
know
how
it's
going
to
be
renovated,
for
example,
that's
going
to
come
back
in
for
a
full
discussion,
which
is
a
very
good
point,
because
if,
for
example,
Council
decided
to
reduce
costs
by
not
putting
a
restroom
downstairs,
that's
on
the
exterior
of
the
building,
then
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
use
the
building
for
the
meetings
and
things
that
are
currently
anticipated,
because
you
only
have
one
upstairs
and
it's
not
accessible.
So
we'd
have
to
see
how
much
Council
wants
to
spend
what
they
want.
C
The
building
to
look
at
or
look
like,
ultimately,
for
example,
I'll
be
a
bit
facetious.
So
this
is
by
no
means
something
that
was
discussed,
but
if
Council
decided
they
wanted
to
make
the
outside
pretty
and
multiple
the
inside
at
minimal
cost.
You
could
do
that
so
then,
there's
no
real
business
plan
that
could
be
formulated
based
on
the
decision.
So
when
it
comes
back
in
those
decisions
are
made,
then
we'll
do
that.
So.
O
C
C
R
It
sounds
like
might
be
helpful,
too,
establish
the
vision
of
what
it's
going
to
be
before.
We
think
about
Council
has
to
establish
that
Vision
yeah
exactly
once
they
established
that
it
might
be
to
what
we
do.
Next,
the
from
a
green
being
everything
to
go,
go
on
schedule
from
a
schedule
perspective.
Where
are
how
do
you
feel
about
the
renovations
for
the
city
hall.
C
C
Perspective,
we
think
that
you
know
we're
in
February
now
so
in
the
next
several
months
we
have
to
get
staff
out
of
council
chambers.
So
that's
the
current
task
that
we're
working
on
and
then
with
the
seamar
on
staff.
Now
we
have
several
more
months
before
the
final
plans
are
done
that
we
can
put
out
on
the
street.
Of
course
we
have
to
go
through
final
review
with
the
state,
because
it's
a
historic
structure
again
so
we're
several
months
away
from
that,
and
then
we
have
an
18-month
project.
C
So
we
know
that
the
design
itself,
because
they're
one
of
their
offices
is
down
near
Fort.
Myers
was
pushed
back
by
a
couple
months
because
of
the
hurricane,
so
we're
looking
at
Mid
this
year,
where
we
should
have
some
final
plans
that
Council
can
discuss
and
then
we'll
have
to
get
final
review
and
put
that
out
so
we're
you
know
mid
to
late
this
year.
Before
anything
happens
there,
and
then
we
have
an
18-month
project,
potentially
that
we'll
have
to
accommodate.
C
C
Are
just
I'm,
sorry
I'm,
just
further
that
a
little
bit
we
are
having
routine
meetings
with
the
The
Architects
and
now,
of
course,
the
Seymour
there's
another
one.
This
Friday
I
believe
at
one
o'clock
where
the
architect
comes
in
so
they're
progressively
working
through
the
challenges
they
evaluated,
the
building
post
hurricane
to
make
sure
there
weren't
wasn't
additional
damage
they
had
to
address.
So
it's
continually
moving
forward.
F
O
F
N
Mayor
before
we
do
that,
we
do
have
two
items
on
the
agenda
that
our
quasi-judicial
public
hearings-
that's
item,
5B
and
5c.
Anyone
that
will
be
intending
to
provide
evidence
and
testimony
on
either
of
those
two
public
hearings.
Please
rise
to
be
sworn
at
this
time.
Raise
your
right
hand.
You
swear,
affirm
the
testimony
you're
about
to
give
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth.
N
5A
ga-01
2023
is
the
first
reading
of
a
legislative
ordinance
which
I'll
read
by
title
only
in
orders
of
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda,
further
amending
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
police
officers,
retirement
system
restated
pursuant
to
ordinance,
1644-10
amending
section,
6
benefit
amounts
and
eligibility
amending
Section,
8
disability,
providing
for
severability
of
Provisions
repealing
all
ordinances
in
Conflict
here
with
and
providing
an
effective
date
and
in
the
packet
is
a
letter
from
the
from
the
city's
representative
that
prepared
the
ordinance.
Hopefully,
if
you
have
any
questions
they
might
be
answered
in
that
letter,.
F
F
J
F
N
This
is
the
second
reading
of
an
ordinance
which
I'll
read
by
title:
only
an
ordinance
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
Florida,
amending
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda,
comprehensive
plan,
future
venue's
map
to
reflect
the
change
in
the
current
designation
of
Highway
commercial
Corridor
to
medium
density,
residential
for
28.53
plus
or
minus
Acres.
A
tractor
parcel
of
land
situated
in
the
State
of
Florida
county
of
Charlotte
lying
in
section
21,
township
41,
South,
Range,
23,
East,
being
a
portion
of
a
parcel
described
in
official
record
book.
B
Good
morning,
Lisa
Hannan
zoning,
official
and
I
have
been
sworn
since.
It's
the
second
reading.
We
don't
have
a
presentation,
we're
just
respectfully
asking
for
approval
of
this
with
the
removal
of
the
requirement
or
the
the
recommendation
staff
had
regarding
the
Ingress
egress
off
of
Indian
Springs
Road.
We
have
removed
that
condition
and
recommendation
any.
F
F
H
O
O
N
3642
page
473,
public
records
of
Charlotte,
County,
Florida
and
being
further
bounded
and
described
in
exhibit
a
attached
here
to
and
Incorporated
herein
from
Highway
commercial
to
planned
development.
Neighborhood,
providing
for
certain
modifications
to
the
regulations
applicable
to
the
planned
development.
Neighborhood
zoning
classification
provided
for
conflict
and
severability
and
providing
an
effective
date.
B
Q
F
F
S
O
O
F
F
N
It
will
well
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
issue
before
the
specific
issue
before
the
legislature,
but
it
will
not
have
any
effect
upon
this
ordinance
that
you're
repealing
and
our
default
has
been
and
always
has
been.
As
far
as
I
know,
the
state
statute
that
the
city
would
enforce
by
its
Police
Department.
F
T
M
F
N
This
is
also
a
resolution
that
does
not
require
public
hearing
which
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
a
resolution
of
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
Florida,
supplementing
the
quasi-judicial
hearing
procedures
contained
in
city
of
Punta
Gorda
resolution
number
3673-22,
providing
specific
deadlines
for
participating
parties
in
relation
to
April
19
2023
public
hearings
concerning
cp-04-2022,
an
application
by
ATA
Fish
fill
Florida
FL
LLC
to
amend
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda,
comprehensive
future
land
use.
N
In
order
to
make
sure
that
all
of
the
parties,
the
applicant
and
the
interveners
were
given
an
opportunity
for
due
process
to
be
able
to
understand
what
the
what
the
middles
will
be
and
not
an
opportunity
for
the
parties
to
respond
to
the
submittals
that
a
schedule
needed
to
be
established
so
that
everyone
would
be
a
given
the
opportunity
to
review
and
respond
to
the
documents
that
ultimately
would
be
presented
to
City
staff
and
then
ultimately,
to
the
city
council.
For
your
consideration
at
the
April
19
2023
public
hearings.
It's
an
admit.
N
It's
an
administrative
procedural
resolution
which
ultimately
I
think
will
need
to
adopt
for
all
future
quasi-judicial
proceedings
so
that
it's
clear
that
every
party
will
have
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
respond
in
a
timely
fashion
to
each
other's
presentations
prior
to
the
time
that
they're
presented
to
the
city
of
staff.
So
I
would
ask
that
you
I
would
ask
that
you
adopt
this
resolution
so
that
we'll
have
an
orderly
presentation
of
evidence
before
and
during
the
city.
Public
hearings.
N
Well,
during
the
during
my
time
as
a
City
attorney
later
in
the
in
the
in
the
meeting
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
fact
that
we
have
received
a
request
by
Third
intervener
and
during
that
time,
I'll
go
ahead
and
ask
that
you
that
the
city
that
the
mayor
as
the
presiding
officer
was
showing
to
our
rules
and
procedure,
acknowledge
that
the
third
intervener
is
recognized
for
the
purposes
of
a
in
Reading
party.
So
so
even
more
reason
why
we
need
to
have
a
schedule
that
will
be
applicable
to
that
intervener
as
well.
N
I
will
point
out
that
we
received
correspondence
from
the
applicant
that
is
objecting
to
our
establishment
of
a
procedure.
I've
responded
to
that
that
letter
I
do
not
believe
that
the
city
has
done
anything
but
ensure
due
process
for
all
parties
and
and
that
the
incoming
intervener
will
also
be
subject
to
those
same
rules.
And,
frankly,
it's
what
we're
asked.
N
What
I'm,
asking
the
city
council
to
do
is
not
any
different
than
what
a
judge
would
do
in
a
in
a
matter
leading
up
to
a
trial,
establishing
a
schedule
for
the
presentation
of
arguments
and
writing
to
each
parties
that
they
have
an
opportunity
to
be
aware
of
and
respond
to
them,
and
so
again
this
is
something
to
ensure
due
process
of
all
parties.
I
will
say
that,
for
the
record,
the
applicant
has
made
an
objection.
Their
objection
will
be
preserved.
N
They've
also
made
an
objection
with
respect
to
their
inability
to
object
to
the
intervener
status
that
was
granted
by
the
previous
two
parties
and
I'm
sure
they
want
to
perhaps
have
the
opportunity
to
object
to
the
intervener
that
we're
going
to
discuss
a
little
bit
later
this
morning.
Those
those
objections
can
be
heard,
but
at
the
time
that
they
present
the
case
at
the
public
hearing
will
be
part
of
the
record
and
ultimately
it
will
be
a
challenge
that
would
be
preserved
in
case
they
feel
like
that.
N
There
was
some
error
in
the
granting
of
those
part,
those
interviewers
party
status.
They
will
have
the
opportunity
to
question
the
interveners
during
that
public
hearing
should
they
wish
to
do
so
even
cross-examine
them
to
try
to
demonstrate
that
maybe
they
don't
have
adequate
standing,
which
is
customary
in
any
illegal
proceeding.
L
L
M
Yeah
mayor,
my
group
felt
the
same
way:
I
just
think.
Maybe
with
this
and
hopefully
I'll,
our
attorney
can
explain
it
maybe
a
little
bit
more,
but
I
just
think
we're
giving
them
a
stick,
something
they
can
use
against
us
in
the
future
and
I
I
want
to
make
sure
when
we
get
this
done.
That
is
done
right.
So.
G
Melissa
well
and
I'd
stated
when
we
had
this
conversation
last
meeting,
that
I
think
this
is
something
that
needs
to
be
done
for
future
I.
Think
it's
meant
well
and
I
think
it
would
work
really
well
for
our
future
endeavors
but
I
think
right
now,
unfortunately,
they
were
here.
We
should
have
had
that
discussion
here
and
they
weren't.
We
had
that
discussion,
so
I
think
at
this
time
we
have
to
stick
with
what
we
agreed
with
and
then
moving
forward.
L
N
N
In
all
fairness
to
the
applicant,
and
this
is
under
the
nature
of
due
process.
The
applicant
has.
The
up
should
have
the
opportunity
to
see
what
objections
that
the
interveners
and
the
city
well
interveners
certainly
are
putting
forth
so
that
they
have
the
opportunity
to
respond
to
those
objections
prior
to
the
city
council
hearing
and
receiving
staff's
report
and
and
the
presentations.
So
this
resolution
is
intended
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
due
process
is
protected,
not
just
the
applicant.
N
N
It
does
not
have
anything
necessarily
to
do
with
the
procedural
deadlines
and
and
matters
that
we've
presented
in
this
in
this
resolution,
other
than
the
fact
that
if
someone
is
not
given
an
opportunity
to
adequately
present
their
case,
then
at
that
point
in
time
there
could
be
a
question
of
denial
due
process.
This
resolution
is
intended
to
make
sure
that
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
fairly
present
their
case.
N
G
Hold
on
so-
and
this
is
probably
just
maybe
new
territory
since
this
is
something
that
you
know.
Maybe
it's
never
come
before
Council.
But
what
at
what
time
do
we
say?
Okay,
we're
going
to
just
go
back
to
Planning
Commission,
because
I
think
that's
kind
of
where
process
starts
right.
You
know,
if
I
mean
again,
we
have
no
idea
whether
plans
are
going
to
change
or
exactly
what's
happening,
but
at
what
point
do
you
just?
G
N
If
there
is
a
substantial
change
in
the
project
that
totally
changes,
the
impact
and
I
mean
I'll,
leave
it
at
that
totally
changes
the
impact
that
city
council
is
uncomfortable
in
considering
without
input
from
the
Planning
Commission.
Bearing
in
mind
that
the
planning
commission's
role
is
to
ensure
compliance
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
then
the
city
council
has
the
discretion
to
send
it
back
to
the
Planning
Commission
before
they
consider
the
the
marriage
and
the
public
hearing
and.
N
So
there
shouldn't
be
a
whole
lot
of
additional
effort
or
work
product
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
in
order
to
be
prepared
for
the
next
hearing.
But
of
course
the
city
council
gave
sufficient
time,
so
they
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
the
the
interveners
and
any
other
interested
party
to
maybe
address
those
those
concerns
ahead
of
time.
So
I
don't
think
that
the
city
council
was
wrong
in
granting
the
continuance.
L
So
that
is
a
possibility
that
we
send
the
whole
thing
back
if
it's,
if
it's
changed
that
substantially
and
if
we
need
to
do
that,
then
we
need
to
do
that.
But
I'll
reiterate
what
I
said
earlier
is
I
think
the
applicant
was
very
obvious
that
they
wanted
to
work
together
with
all
the
interveners
to
try
to
come
to
a
a
project
that
everybody
would
at
least
they
wouldn't
object
to.
They
might
not
be
jumping
up
and
down
happy,
but
they
would
it's
something
that
people
could
could
be
happy
with.
L
So
I
think
the
interveners
are
going
to
be
part
of
the
process.
That's
what
I
heard
and
and
so
there
there
might
not
be
a
need
for
this
whole
review
cycle
and
and
I
think.
The
applicant
should
be
astute
enough
to
understand
that
if
they
don't
give
this
to
the
their
their
whatever
changes
they
make
to
City
staff
in
time
for
the
staff
to
review
it
and
provide
their
opinion
to
us.
L
We
don't
need
to
rush
it.
We
go
back
if
we
have
to
send
it
all
the
way
back
through
planning.
We
do
that
or
if
we
have
to
continue
so
the
interveners
have
an
opportunity
to
look
at
it.
We
do
that
I,
just
I,
think
again,
I
think
by
this
we
set
ourselves
up
for
for
a
legal
Challenge
on
a
procedural
issue
that
we
don't
need
to
deal
with.
I.
Just
don't
see
the
need
for
it.
I.
M
F
N
The
result
of
not
approving
this
resolution
means
that
we
have
a
public
hearing
on
April,
19th
and
I
believe
that
all
documentation,
that's
going
to
be
presented
to
the
city
council,
needs
to
be
provided.
I,
think
it's
seven
business
days
prior
to
the
city
council
meeting
and
that's
the
schedule
that
will
remain
in
effect.
F
F
N
L
T
C
Like
that,
you
know
we'll
just
mention
that
when
you
talk
about
when
it
needs
to
be
submitted
to
the
city,
this
type
of
project
typically
is
coming
straight
from
Planning
Commission
and
then
goes
through
City
staff
who've
already
had
a
full
chance
to
review
it,
make
comments
and
then
the
city
council.
So
when
this
is
presented
just
say
it
is
a
week
or
two
weeks
before
when
it
comes
back
for
the
first
public
hearing
April
19th,
there
will
be
a
second
public
Hearing
in
May
before
there's
any
final
approval
and
there's
nothing.
C
That
requires
a
substantial
amount
of
Review
Time
prior
to
that,
and
normally
that's
done
prior
to
Planning
Commission.
So
depending
on
what's
submitted
at
that
point,
like
you
said,
that's
when
you
have
to
make
a
decision,
will
this
be
continued?
Will
it
be
approved
in
the
form
that
you're
comfortable
with
or
will
it
be
remanded
back
so.
L
F
F
M
G
Just
a
question:
it
looks
like
the
walk,
I'll.
Let
you
come
down,
Lisa,
give
you
a
second
it
on
the
title.
It
looks
like
the
walk
is
March
11th,
but
the
application
looks
like
the
original
date
was
November
at
22..
They
changed
it.
Yes,
ma'am,
okay,
okay
and
then
the
only
other
question
is:
is
this
a
new
form
that
was
filled
out
that
reflects
the
new
pay
for
officers.
R
F
A
A
F
Our
next
agenda
item
is
8A.
This
is
for
the
April
5th
2023
city
council
meeting,
since
there
are
a
number
of
folks
on
the
council
and
and
City
staff
that
will
be
in
Tallahassee
that
week
for
legislative
action
days,
there
needs
to
be
a
discussion
about
an
alternate
date
for
our
April
5th
council
meeting.
C
There's
a
couple
things
that
are
applicable
here,
other
than
just
the
dates
as
they're
presented,
one
April
5th
meeting,
which
means
it'll
come
out
at
the
end
of
March
the
agenda,
the
prior
Wednesday.
We
were
having
an
April
5th
meeting,
which
would
mean
that
Thursday
or
Friday
of
that
week
the
end
of
March.
C
If
the
sixth
and
seventh
we
did
briefings
that
would
be
for
the
following
business
day,
which
is
a
Monday.
It's
still
pretty
tight
to
get
it
all
done
in
that
time
frame,
especially
when
several
were
just
coming
back
on
the
fifth
and
trying
to
catch
up
on
things.
Obviously,
we
also
have
a
big
public
hearing
on
the
19th
of
April,
which
will
take
a
lot
of
time
in
the
beginning
of
April,
for
hopefully,
staff
review
and
preparation
for
the
19th.
We
also
have
a
supplemental
meeting
on
May
21st,
which
is
with
the
County
Commissioners.
C
That's
the
joint
meeting.
We
have
to
have
22
a
year
if
this
one's
missed,
if
we
took
May
21st
and
instead
of
just
going
there
two
o'clock.
If
we
came
in
at
12
o'clock
and
had
a
short
meeting
that
we
could
address
anything
that
needed
to
happen
and
then
went
to
the
county
commissioner's
meeting
that
would
make
up
for
this
altogether.
So
may.
C
March
March,
okay,
March,
I'm,
sorry
March,
so
we
have
several
options.
We
could
try
to
do
it
on
the
sixth
or
seventh,
which
means
we're
gonna
have
to
do
briefings
the
prior
week,
which
may
be
somewhat
of
a
conflict
where
we
can
try
to
do
it
on
the
10th.
These
are
the
dates
that
are
available
here,
which
means
sixth
or
seventh,
will
try
to
have
to
squeeze
those
in
or
we
can
use
another
meeting
to
offset
this
one.
C
M
U
T
T
F
Think
I
think
we
have
to
realize
that
that's.
That
meeting
is
going
to
already
be
a
heavily
time
frame.
It's
going
to
be
a
very
heavy
meeting,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
can,
if
there
were,
if
there's
any
agenda
items
that
could
be
possibly
discussed
at
the
second
meeting
in
March,
because
that
that
is
separate
from
the
County
Commission
joint
meeting.
If.
G
O
G
M
L
M
C
F
C
F
S
C
C
The
applicant
has
discussed
public
restrooms
on
the
in
or
around
the
grounds
of
Billy
Bailey's
brother
Park.
Currently,
the
use
of
that
Park
was
approved
for
an
annual
temporary
use
permit,
which
expires
in
the
next
several
months.
May
31st
the
condition
that's
required
by
ordinance,
which,
of
course,
is
not
able
to
be
changed
without
a
change
in
ordinance
requires
sanitary
facilities
made
available
to
employees,
attendants
and
participants
of
the
activity.
C
The
application
of
course
specifies
that
food
trucks
are
available,
so
there
is
food
and
drink
and
that
all
operations
would
be
accommodated
by
the
marketplace
and
the
temporary
use
permit
also
conditions,
portable
sanitation
facilities
or
be
required
to
be
in
place.
Now.
That
being
said,
when
we
talk
about
restroom
facilities
for
the
city
in
general
and
where
the
city
has
provided
restroom
facilities,
we
have
restroom
facilities
at
the
major
Parks
which,
on
the
west
side
is
Gilcrest.
C
Park
in
the
main
area
of
the
park
on
the
east
side
is
Lashley
Park,
of
course,
in
the
main
area
of
that
Park,
all
large
Parks
heavily
used.
We
also
have
where
the
boat
ramp
and
Beach
is,
which
is
a
common
area.
We
have
small
restrooms
at
Ponce
Park
and
then,
of
course,
we
have
our
common
restroom
facilities
that
the
city
center
in
between
Herald
Court,
which
is
open
seven
days
a
week
for
general
public
use.
F
Okay,
well,
I
have
a
little
bit
of
an
issue
with
this
request,
because
I
think,
if
we
start
doing
this
for
one
group
we're
going
to
have
to
do
it
for
others
and
I
already
had
someone
from
the
chamber
say
well.
If,
if
we're
going
to
do
this,
then
we
should
offer
restroom
facilities
for
the
farmers
market
and
the
Sullivan
Street
craft,
fair
and
other
events
of
that
kind
and
I
think
we're
opening
up
a
Pandora's
Box.
L
Yeah,
that
was
the
unanimous
feeling
of
my
Advisory
Group
as
well,
that
we'd
be
setting
a
bad
precedent
if
we
start
providing
them
and
it
I
understand
it'd,
be
over
500
000
to
do
a
permanent
facility
and
for
a
park.
That's
small
that
just
wouldn't
be
reasonable
or
make
sense,
so
I
think
I'm
gonna
get
it
needs
to
be,
as
it
was
originally
approved.
F
Well,
and
and
to
rent,
just
I
did
look
into
this
just
to
rent
a
porta
potty
for
the
city
to
pay
for
it,
it's
upwards
of
300
a
week
for
for
each
type
of
use,
each
individual
use
and
to
to
go
further.
If
we
were
to
consider
putting
permanent
restrooms
in
at
that
Park,
it's
going
to
cost
at
least
probably
a
million
dollars
by
itself
all
said
and
done,
not
to
mention
ongoing
maintenance,
which
we
don't
have.
Staff
to
accommodate
this
park
was
not
intended
to
be
a
park.
F
It's
a
pocket
part,
so
it
was
not
intended
to
be
a
park
that
that
would
have
ongoing
activities
like
this.
This
happens
to
be
a
unique
situation
and,
while
I
have
great
respect
for
the
folks
that
are
doing
the
happy
hour,
Marketplace
I,
just
don't
think
it
is
appropriate
for
the
city
to
be
involved
in
this,
and
that
wasn't
part
of
the
original
permit.
Request
and
I
would
not
support.
Moving
forward
on
it
agreed.
M
F
O
Obviously
this
is
in
district
one
and
I.
You
know
proposed
to
Greg
that
we
could,
you
know,
consider
it
as
a
council,
because
the
council
would
have
to
make
this
decision
I
do
support
what
they're
trying
to
achieve
in
bringing
more
economic
activity
to
that
particular
area
of
the
city.
I
also
agree
that
I
think
there
needs
to
be
more
organizations
involved
in
this
effort.
I
agree
with
the
Blanchard
house,
obviously
they're,
seeking
to
move
another
structure
to
that
property
and
expand
it
I.
Don't
you
know
I
think
maybe
more
discussion
needs
to
happen.
O
I
also
had
a
conversation
with
Ashley
Maurer
at
the
Charlotte
Community
Foundation,
and
they
are
willing
to
have
a
meeting
with
Mr
Abraham
and
his
partner
to
see
if
there's
something
that
they
can
help
with
no
promises.
But
they
are,
you
know
they
are
interested,
obviously
in
economic
activity,
and
you
know,
did
provide
that
help.
But
I
agree
that
I
don't
think
we
can
do
this
as
a
precedent.
I
also
have
been
very
involved
with
the
historical
society
which
uses
a
history
park
for
a
very
similar
purpose.
O
Has
a
market
once
a
week
has
musical
events,
you
know
a
couple
times
a
month
and
they
would
be
well
within
their
rights
to
ask
for
the
same
consideration
right.
Also,
I
I
think
they
do
have
a
good
relationship
with
their
providers
of
restroom
facilities
that
might
be
cheaper
than
the
ones
you
are
using.
So
you
might
want
to
call
Sandy
Moon
who's,
the
executive
director
and
see,
if
maybe
you
can
get
a
cheaper
rate
for
that,
but
otherwise
I
don't
see
the
city
you
know
paying.
For
this.
F
S
Well,
I'd
just
like
to
correct
one
misapprehension
and
that's
the
sense
that
we
want
something
special
for
us
as
Jan
minor
as
John
Maynard
King
said.
In
the
end,
we
all
die,
there's
no
telling
how
long
I'm
gonna
be
around
my
partner
or
even
happy
hour,
but
we
have
a
situation
where
there
are
no
public
facilities
on
the
east
side.
S
So
this
is
not
something
to
benefit
my
group
or
happy
hour.
It's
something
that
would
benefit
that
whole
community
councilman
mayor,
Matthews,
I
was
there
when
the
park
was
conceptualized
about
15
years
ago
and
I
know
what
they
want
to
do
with
the
park
and
they're
not
doing
it
yet
because
it
is
not
a
center
for
Community
activity
and
the
primary
reason
is
that
you
got
to
go
home
to
go
to
the
bathroom
pure
and
simple.
I
see
this
as
something
that's
beyond
happy
hour.
S
This
is
something
that
improves
the
quality
of
the
life
and
it
brings
the
east
side
more
in
line
with
downtown
and
the
west
side.
So
I
hope
this
is
the
start
of
a
conversation.
I
did
not
expect
to
leave
with
a
restroom
in
my
pocket,
but
what
I
do
hope
is
that
the
council
considers
the
need
to
put
some
public
facilities
on
the
part
of
town
where
there
are
only
two
public
parks.
F
Thank
you
and
again
I'll
State,
for
the
record
that
you
know
the
city.
The
city
did
not
intend
for
that
Park
to
be
a
community
activity
parked
like
you're
using
it
for
and
we
and
we
don't
have
the
the
staff
for
Parks
and
Recreation.
We
have
three
people
Manning
every
single
facility
in
the
city
for
Parks
and
Recreation,
and
we
don't
have
staff
that
could
be
on
site
to
maintain
facilities
if
they
were
to
ever
be
built.
F
That's
one
of
the
big
problems
we
have
so
without
going
through
the
whole
budget
planning
process,
whether
it
be
on
the
one
percent
sales
tax
which
would
have
to
be
in
2026
or
whether
it's
another
form
of
money
funded
in
the
general
fund
budget.
It
would
have
to
be
one
of
those
things
we
just
don't
have
the
money
and
that's
the
bottom
line.
I.
F
S
F
V
V
The
total
construction
time
to
complete
the
project
is
180
calendar
days
and
a
notice
to
receive
will
be
issued
upon
receipt
if
the
contractor's
insurance
and
performance
payment
bonds
excuse
me
wants
to
know,
is
to
proceed
is
issued.
The
contractor
is
required
to
begin
construction
within
10
calendar
days.
Julie.
Excuse
me
one
second,.
F
L
I
had
a
question
that
came
up
in
my
Advisory
Group,
so
my
understanding
is
that
we're
funding
this
through
the
general
construction
fund
and
the
one
percent
sales
tax.
But
the
question
was-
and
this
predates
me
here-
but
apparently
there
was
a
settlement
fund-
tribute
settlement
fund
that
was
intended
to
fund
things
like
this.
So
the
question
was
what
happened
to
that
fund
and
why
is
that
not
being
used
for
this?
L
F
Might
not
be
a
question
for
you?
Yes,
so
Kristen
will
probably
give
you
specifics,
but
going
back
to
when
the
the
Fisherman's
Village
land
sale
took
place,
there
was
money
put
into
an
escrow
account
to
be
used
for
special
projects,
and
there
the
tribute
family
filed
suit
against
the
city
because
they
felt
that
part
of
the
the
land
should
have
remained
in
City
custody.
So
to
speak,
and
so
part
of
the
settlement
was
that
we
must
use
700,
000
I
think
it
was
700.
F
We
had
to
use
I
believe
it
was
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
out
of
that
fund
toward
a
park
Improvement
which
they
originally
requested.
We
use
it
for
Gilchrist
it's
for
Ponce,
so
we're
so
we
we
agreed
that
we,
the
funds,
would
be
used
for
Ponce
Park
Renovations.
We
did
do
part
of
that
a
couple
of
years
ago.
We
did
the
sea
wall
and
we
did
the
main
Pier
right.
L
D
O
F
V
Procurement
solicited
bids
for
a
contractor
to
furnish
and
deliver
marine
grade
Ready
Mix
to
the
city's
Public
Works
division
for
the
construction
of
CUO
panels.
These
panels
will
be
used
for
replacement
of
the
sea
oils
damaged
in
Hurricane,
Ian
solicitation.
No,
it
says
was
sent
to
586
vendors
11
viewed
the
solicitation
online
and
the
city
received
only
two
responses.
M
C
I
can
I
guess
I
can
start
just
by
discussing
what
the
current
process
is
and
what
this
is
intended
to
do
the
current
process.
Of
course,
we
had
a
hurricane
there's
people
that
have
several
bare
spots
in
the
swales
where
debris
was
and,
of
course
the
debris
sat
until
it
was
picked
up.
That's
mainly
because,
though
FEMA
was
paying
for
someone
to
pick
it
up.
C
So
the
current
process
is
that
you
come
in.
You
pay
a
hundred
dollars
for
a
permit.
You
get
your
permits,
you're
required
to
get
your
engineer
or
surveyor
to
shoot
grade.
That's
required,
then
you
get
your
contractor
to
put
down
Swale.
That
is
consistent
with
the
grade.
That's
shot,
that's
inspected
and
everyone
moves
on.
So
that's
the
current
process.
What
this
is
intended
to
do
is
say:
process
doesn't
change.
You
come
in.
You
pay
a
hundred
dollars.
C
You
get
your
permit,
but
instead
of
you
going
to
get
your
surveyor
or
engineer,
the
city
will
provide
the
grade
for
you,
so
you
don't
have
to
do
that.
You
put
your
thought
in
and
then
move
on.
So
the
intention
of
this
was
to
make
it
easier
until
at
least
May
1st
for
the
property
owner
to
replace
sod
now.
C
The
ultimate
question
is
that
the
code
also
says
that
at
some
point,
if
there's
dirt,
that
remains
just
dirt
in
the
yard,
it's
bare
not
dead
grass
but
dirt
that
it's
code,
violation
and
you're
required
to
fix
it.
So
of
course
no
one's
looking
for
that
now,
but
at
some
point
in
the
future,
if
someone
comes
in
and
starts
complaining
that
there's
all
these
bare
spots
around
the
city
and
code,
hadn't
done
anything
about
it.
Why
aren't
the
guys
out
there
issuing
citations?
C
L
I've
personally
observed
people
are
just
laying
sod
out
there
already.
So
that's
a
code
violation
and
we
are
backing
up
the
swells,
so
I
think
part
of
this
has
to
be
a
people
have
to
be
notified
me
code,
I
guess
is
going
to
have
to
go
around
and
see
where
there's
sod,
that,
in
the
swell
that
hasn't
been
laid
properly,
I
mean
that's
going
to
have
to
be
addressed
number
one,
because
it's
happening
I've
seen
it.
L
If
we're
gonna,
do
this
I
think
as
an
additional
enticement
I
would
say
they
have
to
pay
a
hundred
dollars
now
for
the
permit
and
they
have
to
hire
an
engineer
and
then
they
have
to
lay
the
sod.
What
we're
saying
is
you
pay
a
hundred
dollars
and
we'll
do
the
engineering
and
you
still
lay
the
side?
I
would
think
that
we
should
give
them
a
little
enticement
and
say
maybe
until
May
1st,
you
pay
fifty
dollars
or
something
less
than
or
you
give
them
a
break.
L
F
Foreign
I
asked
for
this
to
be
put
on
the
agenda,
because
the
paragraph
that
was
included
in
last
week's
weekly
report
implied
and
I've
had
people
email
me
about
this.
It
implied
that
if
you
do
not
have
Pay
the
100
fee
and
get
new
sod
put
in
your
Swale,
that
you're
going
to
be
in
violation
of
city
code
and
you
could
be
fined
so
I
didn't
I
didn't
like
the
way
it
was
worded.
F
I
thought
it
needed
to
be
further
clarified,
but
just
as
important
just
as
important-
and
this
is
very
important-
FPL
has
been
working
in
our
city
for
the
last
four
years.
Putting
up
new
telephone
calls
and
guess
what
every
time
they
finish
putting
calls
in,
they
came
and
laid
sod.
They
didn't
have
a
permit
as
far
as
I
know,
they
don't
have
a
permit
and
I
have
a
problem
with
my
soil
drainage.
F
F
F
G
F
The
mean
well
I
mean,
if
you
look
at
this
first
of
all,
even
if
you
pay
the
hundred
dollar
fee
to
the
city,
all
that's
going
to
do
is
get
get
the
grade
shot.
You
still
have
to
buy
the
side.
You
still
have
to
hire
somebody
to
to
regrade
the
property
you
still
have
to
have.
Somebody
lay
the
side
and
it's
not
it's
not
just
a
hundred
dollars.
F
So
it's
it's
we're
looking
at
a
lot
more
than
a
hundred
dollars,
because
you've
got
three
or
four
different
phases
of
what
has
to
be
done
and
I'm
just
I.
Just
I
didn't
like
the
tone
of
the
of
the
paragraph
that
was
in
the
newsletter
and
I
raised
the
question
with
Greg
about
it
and
and
I
thought
we
should
have
this
discussion
because
I
think
we
all
need
to
be
on
the
same
page
about
it.
L
If
I
recall
back
after
Charlie
didn't
the
city
come
through
and
say
you
know,
50
bucks
and
we'll
put
a
palm
tree
in
your
yard
and
you
can
tell
which
ones
are
there
because
they're
all
the
same
size
and
they're
all
the
same
tree,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
that
people
have
told
me
I
wasn't
around
for
that
and
I.
So
I
think
if
you
kind
of
take
a
similar
positive
approach
because
I
agree,
you
don't
want
to
take
a
heavy-handed
probe.
Take
a
positive
approach.
I
mean
you're.
Gonna
have
to
fix
it
at
some
point.
L
Maybe
May
1st.
Maybe
it's
June,
1st
I,
don't
know.
You're
gonna
have
to
fix
it,
and
if,
if
we
don't
do
something
you're
going
to
pay
a
hundred
and
you're
gonna
have
to
pay
for
the
engineering
and
you're
going
to
have
to
pay
for
the
sod.
So
I
think
you
say
if
you
do
this
before
a
certain
date,
we'll
cut
your
brake
on
the
fee,
so
it's
50,
bucks
or
whatever,
and
the
city
is
going
to
pay
for
your
engineering.
So
all
you
have
to
do
is
pay
for
the
side.
L
I
think
that's
a
positive
approach,
kind
of
like
what
they
did
to
replant.
You
know,
after
Charlie
with
the
trees,
so
I
I
think
that's
not
a
heavy-handed
approach,
and
if,
if
May
1st
is
too
soon,
then
we-
you
know
that's
just
a
date.
You
could
back
it
up
to
a
different
date.
I
think
that
would
be
a
fair
way
to
go,
but
I
I
do
think
we
do.
L
We
have
to
address
people
laying
sod
in
there
now,
because
that
is
going
to
create
more
problems.
I
I
didn't
realize
what
was
going
on
with
FPL
and
I.
Don't
know
how
you
you're
right.
How
can
you
go
back
and
fix
that?
But
you
could
obviously
see
where
they
sawed
today
and
that
needs
to
to
be
out
of
there
if
it's
going
to
create
a
drainage
problem,
because
that
that
just
that
creates
a
problem
for
their
their
neighbors
well,.
F
I,
do
you
think
May
1st
is
too
soon
I
think
there's
still
people
that
are
going
through
major
arguments
with
insurance
companies
and
and
I
just
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
really
strapped
for
cash
right
now.
Because
of
that,
and
you
know,
I
I
don't
disagree.
We
don't
want
our
yards
to
look
nice,
but
I.
Just
think
that
we
need
to
be
fair
and
reasonable
about
how
we
do
this.
C
If
I
could
just
expound
on
a
couple
things
May
1st
was
the
date
that
we
made
it
easier
for
people
to
fix
their
sod.
It
had
nothing
to
do
with
enforcement.
So
the
only
thing
we've
done
is
say:
here's
what
you
normally
have
to
do.
The
city
is
going
to
make
that
easier.
For
you,
that's
all
we've
done
now.
C
Enforcement
at
some
point
will
be
an
issue
and
David
May
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
you
can't
tell
code
not
to
enforce
code,
because
that's
the
ordinance
that's
approved
by
the
city,
now
we're
in
a
state
of
emergency.
So
in
a
state
of
emergency
we
have
certain
latitudes
and
there's
no
there's
no
intention
to
go
out
and
start.
You
know
finding
people
or
issuing
citations
for
Bare
spots
in
the
yard.
I
mean
that's,
obviously
not
something
that
we
even
have
manpower
to
do.
We
have
plenty
of
other
things
to
work
on.
C
All
we
were
doing
was
saying:
if
you're
going
to
engineer
this
and
put
sod
down
we'll
help
you
you
come
in
and
get
your
permit
and
the
reason
it
referenced
it.
It's
a
violation.
If
you
don't
have
a
permit
is
because
of
just
what
she
said:
people
are
out
there,
putting
some
hot
down
and
they're
not
getting
their
permit,
and
we
wanted
everyone
to
be
aware
that
you
know
this
is
a
drainage
thing.
L
F
M
Man,
I'm
I'm
slightly
confused
here
when
we,
when
the
last
city
manager
decided
to
enforce
the
sign
code.
We
had
a
bunch
of
pictures
up
on
the
screen,
showed
signs
out
on
the
swells,
and
those
people
were
fine
for
that.
It's
always
been
my
impression
and
I'm,
maybe
going
to
get
a
ruling
from
our
City
attorney
that
the
swells
Belong
To
The
City.
N
With
with
rare
exception,
the
property
actually
extends
to
the
center
line
of
the
road
impressed
by
a
easement
for
the
benefit
of
the
city
within
the
road
right-of-way.
So
so
the
the
Swale,
with
rare
exception,
is
actually
technically
the
property
of
the
Upland
property
owner,
which
is
why,
in
the
past,
we've
adopted
an
ordinance
that
required
the
property
owners
to
maintain
the
swells.
M
F
The
other
thing
I'll
mention
too
you
mentioned
about
the
trees.
That
was
not
something
that
evolved
because
of
Charlie.
Necessarily
the
city
had
a
program
many
years
ago,
where
residents
could
pay
50
and
the
city
paid
50
percent
of
the
cost
of
a
tree
and
the
city
installed
them
for
the
property
owner
that
had
the
tree
put
in
their
yard.
And
so
that's
why
you
see
two
or
three
in
front
of
certain
people's
yards
and
unfortunately,
what
happened?
F
Is
they
put
they're
those
humongous
Royal
Palms,
and
they
put
them
right
underneath
the
power
lines
in
many
places?
So
actually,
when
FPL
came
and
put
a
new
poll
in
our
front
yard
and
several
other
yards
on
my
street,
they
actually
cut
those
trees
down
which
Joan
was
probably
going
to
have
a
core
and
a
coronary
over,
but
they
did,
they
actually
came
and
they
chopped
those
trees
down.
F
Never
even
asked
the
property
owners,
they
just
came
and
took
them
down
because
they
said
well
they're
they're
in
our
way
and
I
wanted
to
cut
one
of
my
trees
down.
My
husband
said:
absolutely
not
so
they.
So
what
do
they
do?
They
cut
all
the
branches
off
on
the
side
facing
the
street
so
but
anyway,
I
just
I
think
I
need.
We
need
to
see
what
we
want
to
do
about
this
and.
C
C
Pretty
slippery
slope
now
we
can,
we
can
always
say
I
mean
we
have
we're
under
a
state
of
emergency
and
I
have
authority
to
say
we're
not
going
to
enforce.
You
know
certain
things
at
this
point
or
we're
going
to
do
certain
things
that
you
can't
do
normally
but
I,
don't
know
that
we
can
say
for
a
year,
don't
enforce
code,
because
it's
ordinance
well.
N
You
know
ultimately
the
if
there
is
they
call
it
edging
circumstances
unique
circumstances
that
require
temporary
suspension
of
the
enforcement
of
codes
as
long
as
that's
uniformly
applied.
There's
no
reason
why
the
city,
based
on
that
the
unusual
circumstances
can't
take
that
action.
I
know
that
we've
done
that
in
the
past,
I
can't
recall
the
exact
circumstances,
but
in
limited
fashion
we've
suspended
operation.
In
fact,
I
think
we
even
suspended
the
enforcement
of
of
the
sign
code.
N
At
my
point
when
there
was
discussion
about
what
the
city
wanted
to
do
with
the
sign
code,
so
the
ultimately
the
city
as
the
prosecutor
has
the
opportunity
to
use
its
prosecutorial
discretion
based
on
the
circumstances
whether
or
not
the
code
should
be
enforced
in
the
city
council.
Likewise,
can
direct
staff
to
spend
enforcement
of
particular
aspects
of
the
code
because
of
unique,
unique
circumstances
presented
by
an
act
of
nature.
But
that's
where.
C
N
C
C
F
C
F
L
L
But
what
I
would
move
would
be
that
the
City
offers
residents
who
have
bare
spots
in
their
swell
as
a
result
of
debris
piles
resulting
from
Hurricane
Ian,
that
we
would
offer
them
a
50
discount
on
the
permit,
as
well
as
the
city
would
pay
for
the
engineering
to
grade
stake
and
grade
the
Swale
until
until
May
1st.
And
then
we
would
further
suspend
the
code
violation
for
those
bare
spots
until
August
1st.
We
can
change
the
dates
if
we
want,
so
that
would
give
people
an
opportunity
and
incentive
to
get
it
done.
L
L
F
L
M
C
Well,
first
of
all,
there's
a
couple
things
about
the
motion
that
I
just
wanted
to
clarify,
because
when
you
say
we
would
pay
for
the
engineering
someone
might
come
in
and
say
you
know,
here's
my
engineering
bill.
You
said
you
pay
for
it.
What
we
said
is
shooting
grade
would
be
it.
You
know
the
city,
not
the
property
owners
responsibility.
So
that's
just
a
Nuance,
but
Ryan
might
be
able
to
address
that
a
little
more.
L
U
W
Just
a
little
clarificational
thing
about
Brian
Clement's
public
works,
so
the
original
intent
with
that
is.
We
know
we
had
a
lot
of
bare
spots
in
the
swales.
We
had
some
people
reaching
out
to
us
wondering
what
they
could
do.
The
the
current
requirements
is
that
they
have
to
have
a
contractor.
Do
they
work
within
the
Swale?
The
intent
was
to
allow
the
homeowner
property
owner
to
do
that
work,
but
we
would
set
set
some
great
Stakes
for
them.
We
do
do
that
on
all
all
soil
work.
We
set
the
grades.
W
C
W
L
W
These
will
generally
be
fairly
a
fairly
quick
one.
It
won't
be
as
extensive
as
some
of
our
setting
a
new
driveway
or
such
because
we're
just
going
to
kind
of
be
matching.
What's
there
we're
not
re-profiling
the
entire
Swale
system
set
to
grade
and
let
them
do
the
work
yeah
they'll
be
rather
quick
ones.
So,
if
I
can
get
that
position
filled.
F
C
U
D
Out
the
Melissa
record
assistance
any
manager
we
have.
We
do
have
one
other
tool
available
to
us,
but
I
hesitate
to
use
it
in
this
case,
because
our
water
bills
go
to
people
that
aren't
residents
of
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
as
well,
and
it
would
cause
likely
some
confusion
if
we
were
to
print
it
on
the
water
bill
that
this
was
happening.
Our
reach
with
that
is
is
too
far,
and
it
would
take
a
lot
of
Staff
time
to
sort
that
out.
D
So
it
only
went
to
City
residents,
so
we
will
be
doing
media
media
release.
As
of
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
I
went
through
and
I
updated
that
media
list
to
have
every
single
contact
at
every
single
news
station.
So
all
of
the
reporters
that
work
for
any
news
station
are
now
in
my
contact
database
that
wasn't
the
case.
We
were
relying
on
what
was
in
our
website
database.
That's
all
been
updated,
so
I'm,
confident
that
we'll
we'll
get
the
word
out
effectively
to
Residents.
F
L
Emotion,
in
short,
was
that
the
city
until
May
1st
the
city
would
offer
residents
who
have
bare
spots
as
a
result
of
Hurricane
Ian
debris
piles
a
50
discount
on
the
permit,
and
they
would.
The
city
would
grade
an
engineering
grade.
And
then
the
property
owner
would
be
at
their
expense
to
for
the
sod
to
replace
the
sod
and
and
we
would
further
suspend
the
code
enforcement
of
the
bare
spots
and
its
whales.
Until
August
1st.
F
Okay-
okay,
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you,
I'm,
really
glad
we
had
that
discussion,
because
I
I
think
it
really
will
help
people
a
lot
and
and
not
imply
that
there's
penalties
involved
and
I
think
that
was
my
biggest
concern
with
it.
C
F
K
Karen
Smith
city
clerk
for
the
record.
We
just
have
some
vacancies
that
were
these
are
mostly
continuing.
We
do
have
a
couple
of
new
ones,
so
Board
of
zoning
appeals
one
regular
two
alternates
code
enforcement
board,
two
regular
and
two
alternates
historic
preservation:
Advisory
Board
to
alternates
the
Planning
Commission,
one
alternate
Punta,
Gorda,
Isles
Canal
advisory
committee,
one
seat
and
utility
Advisory
Board
one
seat,
but
we
do
have
some
applications
and
we
hope
to
make
some
nominations
at
the
next
meeting.
C
C
This
meeting
you've
approved
concrete
contracts,
so
we're
sure
we
have
the
concrete.
We
need
to
replace
the
panels
and
the
information
that's
being
reviewed
so
that
we
can
discuss
with
FEMA
how
much
they
are
actually
going
to
pay
versus
what
they
tried
to
not
claim
that
we
would
have
to
pay
is
ongoing,
which
gives
us
the
latitude
to
do
certain
things
now,
like
you've,
all
seen
the
maps
that
came
out
there
was
a
lot
of
work
from
Public
Works
to
get
the
maps
created.
C
That
shows
the
sea
walls
that
need
replaced
in
general
for
public
review
and
also
list
the
priority
of
c-roll
replacement.
So
it
shows
the
most
critical
priorities
down
to
the
full
replacement
schedule
by
section,
so
we're
pleased
to
be
able
to
have
that
out
there
now
that
we're
able
to
and
that
we're
continuing
the
discussion
with
FEMA.
C
We
now
have
the
materials
to
start
production
of
Seawall
panels
and
we'll
continue
to
move
that
process
forward
until
we're
complete
and
have
the
sea
walls
ready
for
the
next
storm,
especially
if,
with
the
permits
we're
looking
at,
we
can
get
some
rip
wrap
down
there
that
helps
them
from
kicking
out
like
we
originally
intended.
So.
C
N
F
F
Park
on
numerous
occasions
since
I've
been
on
city
council,
we've
had
requests
for
special
event
permits
to
include
closing
the
harbor
walk
and
due
to
the
massive
amount
of
negative
feedback
we
got
from
residents
in
the
city.
Because
of
that,
we
made
a
concerted
effort
to
not
allow
closing
of
the
harbor
walk
for
special
events
other
than
one
or
two
special
things
like
the
wine
and
Jazz
Festival,
who
has
extreme
security
for
the
entertainment
and
for
the
equipment
that
is
housed
in
Mobile,
Home
trailers
and
and
other
equipment
behind
the
stage
area.
F
And
so
it
has
been
brought
to
my
attention
that
on
several
occasions
in
the
not
too
recent
past
that
some
of
the
special
events
happening
at
Lashley
Park
have
actually
had
the
harbor
walk
closed.
It
is
not
supposed
to
be
something
we
we
allow
to
happen,
and
I
would
like
for
us
to
have
a
discussion
item
about
it,
and
I
would
like
to
have
City
staff
be
prepared
to
answer
questions
about
which
events
did
this
and
by
whose
authority?
F
Because
we
have,
we
have
very
clearly
stated
in
the
past
that
we
do
not
want
Harbor,
walk
closed
and
so
I
I'm
very
unhappy
to
hear
that
there
was
an
event
last
week
again
that
had
the
harbor
walk
closed
and
that
that
is
not
something
that's
supposed
to
be
happening.
So
I
would
like
for
that
to
be
an
agenda
item
on
the
next
Council
agenda
and
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
everyone
be
aware
of
it
and
and
we'll
have
a
discussion
at
the
next
meeting.
O
F
M
I
would
also
like
to
add
something
on
the
agenda.
Our
next
meeting
is
the
Christmas
tree,
the
city
staffs,
getting
ready
to
take
it
down,
I
assume
pretty
soon
and
I've
asked
the
city
manager
if
they
could,
if
they
could
tag
those
new
branches.
You
know
where
they're
going
to
be
able
to
do
that.
I
think
probably
is
the
light.
M
The
tree
again
tag
them
because
there's
a
pretty
good,
Bunch
down
below
and
then
another
part
way
up
high
so
that
we
can
identify
them
and
then
the
the
ones
in
between
from
the
old
tree,
the
one
that
I
purchased
in.
So
we
can
replace
that
we
need
to
if
that's
the
road
we're
going
to
go,
but
I
think
we
need
to
discuss
that
tree.
We're
already
into
February
it'll,
be
here
before
you
know
it.