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From YouTube: Regular Council Meeting 4-20-2022
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Regular Council Meeting 4-20-2022
B
D
Thank
you,
madam
mayor,
would
you
pray
with
me
father?
We
come
to
you
today
and
ask
for
wisdom
for
this
council.
Thank
you
that
they
understand
the
importance
of
the
decisions
that
will
be
made
here
today.
Thank
you
that
the
citizens
will
pray
for
them
and
not
pray
upon
them.
Thank
you
for
your
love
and
your
compassion
and
we
do
pray
for
all
of
the
city
employees.
D
Thank
you
for
what
they
do
to
do,
the
best
that
they
can
in
their
work
and
in
their
job,
and
we
thank
you
for
the
first
responders
that
keep
us
safe
and
keep
us
healthy
and
come
to
our
aid,
and
we
thank
you,
father
for
those
that
are
serving
here
in
the
states
and
around
this
world.
Keeping
this
country,
one
nation
under
god,
and
we
pray
for
those
that
are
in
harm's
way
in
ukraine,
pray
that
supernaturally.
D
B
So
the
the
meeting
today
we
have
several
award
presentations
that
will
begin
the
meeting,
and
then
we
have
a
couple
of
proclamations
and
since
there
are
so
many
so
many
folks
in
the
audience,
I'm
going
to
just
read
some
housekeeping
notes
prior
to
starting.
All
of
that,
there
is
a
code
of
conduct
in
the
council,
chambers
and
members
of
the
public
should
familiarize
themselves
with
the
plaque
on
the
wall
behind
the
deus,
which
is
on
the
wall
over
there.
That
applies
to
everyone
in
this
room.
B
B
Speakers
are
to
direct
all
comments
to
the
city
council,
not
the
audience
or
any
one.
Individual
council
member
discussion
between
speakers
and
members
of
the
audience
is
not
permitted
when
there
are
many
individuals
who
wish
to
speak
on
a
certain
issue.
Speakers
should
try
not
to
reiterate
lengthy
comments
made
by
others
to
ensure
an
effective
and
efficient
meeting.
B
This
ensures
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
speak
audience
and
speakers
will
be
courteous
in
their
language
and
presentation,
no
applause
booing
or
shouting
before,
during
or
after
any
speaker,
a
copy
of
any
supporting
documents
displayed
during
the
meeting
must
be
provided
to
the
city
clerk's
office.
These
documents
will
become
part
of
the
permanent
record
and
will
be
retained
by
the
clerk's
office.
The
citizens
comments
portion
of
the
meeting
is
not
intended
to
be
a
question
and
answer
period.
E
E
E
E
E
You
know,
I
appreciate
all
your
hard
work,
dedication
and
loyalty
to
this
fine
city.
You
know,
for
everything
that
you
do
lance
is
one
of
those
employees
who's
so
good
at
what
he
does.
He
makes
my
job
that
much
more
easier,
and
I
just
want
to
tell
you
how
much
I
appreciate
you
and
say
thank
you
for
for
all
your
efforts.
F
B
F
B
G
G
G
G
G
She
there's
many
projects
that
she's
ever
seen.
Current
past
harbor
walk
being
she's
done
all
phases,
including
the
current
phase.
There's
the
multi-use
trail,
the
pedestrian
bridge,
paving
program.
She
oversees
the
paving
program,
our
boca
grand
drainage
project,
currently
handling
coordinating
with
the
engineers
to
keep
that
project.
Moving
forward.
G
G
F
B
D
Good
morning,
everybody
chief
pam
davis,
with
the
pontegorta
police
department.
As
always,
I
want
to
thank
the
city
council
and
the
city
manager
for
taking
the
time
to
recognize
our
personnel.
We
really
do
appreciate
that
dean
came
to
us
in
2007
from
the
charlotte
county
correctional
institute.
He
was
a
canine
handler
and
a
sergeant
there
and
when.
D
C
D
Deal
and
obviously
dean's
a
school
resource
officer
right
now
and
he's
actually
going
to
retire
in
june.
So
we're
happy
for
him.
Congratulations
on
that
on
a
personal
level,
you're
never
going
to
meet
a
nicer
person,
he'll
do
anything
for
you
and
he's
got
an
excellent
attitude,
so
dean.
Thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work.
We
really
appreciate
it.
G
Just
a
few
of
tyler's
responsibilities
include
organizing
participating
in
all
all
in-service
training,
with
our
department
field,
training
officers
he's
also
the
department's
liaison
with
the
department
of
health
and
all
all
things.
Covid
right,
like
that's
tyler's,
been
our
guy.
For
that.
This
is
easy.
He's
one
of
the
superstars
within
the
department,
tyler
exhibits,
true
passion
for
exercise
and
training
and
he's
characterized
as
the
go-to
guy
in
relation
to
the
department's
health
and
wellness
program,
he's
extremely
consistent
in
his
management
style
and
has
earned
the
respect
of
the
community
as
well
as
his
co-workers.
G
G
G
All
right,
congratulations.
Additionally,
it's
my
pleasure
to
recognize
jim
15
years.
He
currently
holds
the
rank
of
lieutenant
paramedic
as
well
as
working
as
a
battalion
chief,
when
the
need
arises,
he's
been
doing
that
a
fair
amount
lately
he's
responsible
for
initial
scene
management
on
both
fire
and
medical
calls.
He
was
one
of
our
pioneering
paramedics,
so
he's
one
of
our
senior
medics
in
the
department
he
can
routinely
be
found,
conducting
in-service
training
and
with
co-workers
and
volunteers
truly
has
a
passion
for
training
works
with
our
volunteers
and
co-workers.
G
He's
characterized
by
his
co-workers
as
a
true
problem.
Solver
jim
will
be
frequent,
frequently
identify
areas
for
improvement,
and
not
only
does
he
identify
areas
for
improvement,
but
he's
one
that
comes
with
solutions,
and
so
that
is
is
greatly
appreciated.
He's
truly
considered
a
leader
within
our
department,
jim.
Thank
you
for
15
years.
B
F
B
F
F
F
Every
day
until
usually
the
bill
comes,
and
then
everyone
remembers
what
the
water
is
all
about,
but
without
that
our
quality
of
life
obviously
would
not
be
what
it
is
today
and
without
good
tasting
drinking
water
and
good
quality
water.
We
knew
the
difference
between
even
ten
years
ago
or
five
years
ago
in
now
and
all
the
work
that
you
put
in
to
make
that
happen.
So
we
really
really
appreciate
that.
F
I
just
want
to
read
something
here
that
maybe
neil
can
elaborate
on
a
little
bit,
because
this
is
also
going
further
than
just
this
award.
The
city
of
punta
gorda
water
treatment
plant
is
blended
water
system
consisting
of
two
sources:
a
conventional
treatment,
surface
water
plant
and
reverse
osmosis
plant.
The
surface
water
treatment
plant
was
built
in
1965,
the
plant's,
a
conventional
treatment
plant
that
treats
with
aeration
coagulation
flocculation
sedimentation,
filtration
and
disinfection,
and
that
means
something
to
other
people
that
is
a
full-service
system.
F
The
ro
plant
was
built
in
2020,
the
ro
plant
pumps
from
six
production
wells
and
has
two
treatment:
trains
each
are
capable
of
producing
two
million
gallons
per
day.
The
total
combined
permanent
operating
capacity
capacity
is
currently
10
million
gallons
per
day.
Total
retail
population
served
is
approximately
36
302..
F
F
So
with
that
where's
neal
behind
me
again,
thank
you
for
everything.
You've
done.
Thank
you
for
bringing
home
the
bacon.
I
mean
this
award
is
certainly
something
you
can
display
proudly
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
goes
into
these
type
things.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
all
the
hard
work
you
put
in.
D
Good
morning,
neil
peters
interim
utilities,
director
the
staff
we
have
with
us
today,
is
brian
fuller
supervisor,
ben
feria
level,
a
operator
john
fields
and
kyle
owens.
Both
trainees,
matt
keaney
level,
b
operator,
susanna,
haslinger,
chief
operator,
tom
spencer,
maintenance,
chief,
jim
moss
instrument,
tech,
chris
hall,
maintenance,
worker
3
and
joe
herron
maintenance
worker.
One
we'd
just
like
to
thank
all
of
you
for
the
hard
work
you
do
on
a
day-to-day
basis
and
congratulations
on
your
award
and
fingers
crossed
next
week.
D
F
Departments
are
always
a
microcosm
of
of
life
itself
and
the
system,
because
you
can
do
everything
as
you've
heard
from
looking
at
engineering
criteria
to
electronics
to
mechanics
to
hydraulics,
I
mean
you
can
just
pretty
much
choose
management,
financial
management.
Anything
you
want
to
do.
The
utility
department
has
to
do
to
be
able
to
run
efficiently,
so
there's
a
lot
that
goes
into
it
and
a
lot
that
you
can
get
out
of
it.
B
Yeah
we're
very
lucky
when
you
look
at
what's
going
on
in
surrounding
communities.
It's
on
the
news.
Every
night
we
we
have
a
very,
very
flawless
system
for
the
most
part
anyway.
So
we're
very
appreciative
of
all
the
efforts.
Okay,
we
now
have
two
proclamations
and
I
will
read
the
first
one.
It
is
my
honor
and
privilege
to
read
this.
B
Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
ponte,
gorda
florida
does
hereby
proclaim
april
30
2022
as
hibiscus
day
and
encourages
all
residents
to
plant
hibiscus
to
beautify
the
city
and
continue
the
tradition
which
began
many
years
ago
past
and
duly
adopted
in
regular
session.
This
20th
day
of
april
2022
signed
leonard
matthews
mayor
and
accepting
will
be
diane
munson.
A
A
B
H
Good
morning,
it's
my
honor
and
privilege
to
read
proclamation
city
of
punta
gorda
florida,
whereas
in
1872,
j
sterling
morton
proposed
to
the
nebraska
board
of
agriculture
that
a
special
day
be
set
aside
for
the
planting
of
trees
and
whereas
this
holiday
called
arbor
day
was
first
absorbed,
observed
with
the
planting
of
more
than
a
million
trees
in
nebraska
and
is
now
observed
throughout
the
nation
and
the
world.
And
whereas
trees
can
reduce
the
erosion
of
topsoil
by
wind
and
water,
cut
heating
and
cooling
costs.
H
Moderate
temperature
clean
the
air
produce
oxygen
and
provide
habitat
for
wildlife
and
whereas
trees
are
a
renewable
resource.
Giving
us
paper,
wood
for
our
homes,
fuel
for
our
fires
and
countless
other
products
and
whereas
trees
in
our
city,
increase
property
values,
enhance
the
economic
vitality
of
business
areas,
beautify
our
community
and
provide
for
a
sustainable
future
and
whereas
trees
were
ever
planted,
are
a
source
of
joy
and
spiritual
renewal
and
whereas
the
city
desires,
to
continue
to
support
the
efforts
to
care
for
our
community
forest
and
educate
our
citizens
on
its
importance.
H
Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
puna,
gorda
florida
does
hereby
proclaim
april
22
2022
as
arbor
day
and
urges
all
citizens
to
celebrate
arbor
day,
support
efforts
to
protect
our
trees
and
woodlands
and
plant
trees,
to
gladden
the
hearts
and
promote
the
well-beings
of
this
and
future
generation
past
and
duly
adopted.
This
20th
day
of
2022
city
of
puna
gorda,
signed
lynn,
r,
matthews
mayor
and
accepting
will
be
john.
The
bow.
H
J
B
K
And
so
I
was
going
to
ask
that
the
matter
be
withdrawn
from
the
agenda.
But
it's
my
understanding
this
morning
that
some
people
have
come
to
because
it's
on
the
agenda.
Maybe
they
want
to
be
heard
on
the
matter
so,
rather
than
remove
it
from
the
agenda
altogether,
we
can
leave
it
on
the
agenda,
but
I
have
nothing
further
to
say
on
the
matter.
B
B
K
D
Hi
there
I'm
jeff
lustig,
and
I
just
wanted
to
talk
about
the
vietnam
war
memorial.
I
learned
a
lot
from
the
city
staff
about
that.
The
veterans
paid
for
the
wall
on
the
grounds
and
the
city
used
in-kind
services
to
help
them
and
when
the
wall
was
originally
planned,
there
was
a
the
ue
was,
was
planned
in
it
and
that
when
the
city
did
the
architectural
plans
they
did
not
include
it,
it
is
the
ue
is
the
iconic
image
of
the
vietnam
war.
D
D
Is
this
darn
sign
ordinance,
we're
being
sued
in
federal
court
as
a
responsibility
as
a
business
person
and
as
a
city
council,
you
should
we'd
like
to
find
out
what
our
exposure
is
from
the
city
attorney
and
how
much
we're
spending
on
these
on
these
providing
these
cases
and
are
they
and
is
the
city
attorney
qualified
to
go
into
federal
court
to
to
fight
these
and
the
exorbitant
costs?
We
I've
heard
that
in
federal
court
you
can
be
charged
125
dollars
an
hour
from
the
opposing
side.
D
So
what
the
city's
exposure
on
this
it
makes
us
look
bad.
If
you
go
down
the
rabbit
hole
you
could
where
we
were
trying
with
this
ordinance
to
protect
16
year
olds
from
the
f
word.
Well
now,
with
the
new,
the
stan,
desantis,
don't
say
gay.
Will
we
protect
five-year-olds
from
gay
signs
and
that
I
love
it
here
in
punta
gorda?
D
E
E
Twenty
thousand
square
feet
is
approximately
the
equivalent
of
two
pgi
lots
together
or
two
bsi
lots
together,
you're
going
to
have
a
stacked
buildings,
and
you
could
have
them
next
to
each
other
and
across
the
street
from
each
other,
and
what
you're
going
to
get
is
a
canyon
effect
where
the
sun
doesn't
get
in.
It's
going
to
be
dark.
It's
going
to
take
away
the
charm
of
our
city.
E
E
E
That's
a
problem
and
what
staff
is
proposing
is
well
we'll
give
the
developer
community
benefits
to
to
establish
a
walkway
there
or
something
like
that.
You
don't
have
to
give
them
community
benefits.
You
can
just
mandate
in
the
code
that
the
setback
is
10
feet
and
you
exempt
stairs
and
handicap
ramps
from
that
you
don't
need
community
benefits,
it
could
be
a
public
space
and
it's
typical
in
in
most
places
you
have
a
front
yard
setback.
E
E
I
don't
see
how
that
benefits
any
other
resident
except
the
employee,
who
may
not
even
be
a
resident
of
punta
gorda
parking,
is
the
big
issue,
and
it's
really
not
addressed
it's
mentioned
seven
times
here,
and
it
refers
you
to
an
existing
parking
ordinance
thing
that
says
parking
exemption
area,
no
parking
required
for
a
building
of
ten
thousand
square
feet
or
less
footprint.
You
can
go
three
stories.
High
with
ten
thousand
feet
thirty
thousand
feet
and
not
to
provide
any
parking,
that's
wrong!
E
M
This
is
the
state's
fault:
how
the
people
who
lease
slips
at
puna,
gorda,
marina,
how
it's
their
fault,
because
there's
a
line
item
on
their
lease
that
says
they
should
adhere
to
all
city
and
county
state
regulations
concerning
it.
But
what
I
did
not
hear
was
that
the
leasee
themselves,
which
would
be
the
city
of
puna
gorda,
all
I
heard-
was
a
deflection
on
how
the
problems
with
that
submerged
land
lease
are
all
everybody
else's
fault.
Now,
they've
mentioned
that.
M
M
M
Now
I
have
made
a
call
to
the
mayor's
office.
I
got
a
call
back
from
a
staffer
there
that
told
me
that
there
was
no
attempt,
none
whatsoever,
the
city
of
punta
gorda,
talking
with
the
state
of
florida
in
regards
to
amendments
or
modifications
to
that
submerged
landlace,
that
the
actual
solution
to
if
there
is
deficiencies
in
the
audit
is
to
boot
out
a
bunch
of
people.
Okay,
I've
heard
that
it's
not
really
homeless,
because
their
homes
float
okay,
well,
yeah
it
is.
It
is
homeless.
M
B
B
B
Okay,
seeing
none
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
agenda
item,
and
that
is,
if
there's
anyone
in
the
audience
that
has
submitted
their
name
and
resume
for
a
consideration
of
a
border
committee
seat.
You
would
like
to
introduce
yourself
to
council.
Please
come
to
the
podium
state,
your
name
and
you
have
three
minutes.
D
B
I
would
like
to
see
what
the
legal
position
is
on
the
part
of
the
city
attorney.
If
we
were
to
consider
taking
another
look
at
this
and
can
have
the
council
give
consideration
to
having
one
more
discussion
about
it
and
the
reason
for
my
my
request
is:
I
did
have
a
chance
to
review
the
contracts
that
have
just
expired,
which
I
don't
understand
for
all
the,
although
anything
in
the
world,
why
all
contracts
in
the
marina
expired
on
the
same
day.
B
I
don't
know
how
anybody
can
operate
a
business
and
have
a
cash
flow
with
every
single
contract
expiring.
On
the
same
day,
I
think
that's
ludicrous.
First
of
all,
and
the
comment
was
made
earlier
by
one
of
our
residents
yeah,
I
mean
the
responsibility
of
all
of
this
falls
on
all
of
us.
It's
not
just
the
marina
management
company
or
the
state,
it's
the
city
as
well,
and
shame
on
us
for
allowing
it
to
get
to
get
this
far.
B
But
I
do
think
that,
in
an
effort
of
trying
to
show
some
respect
for
those
who
live
aboard
their
boats,
I
would
like
to
ask
if
you
would
give
consideration
to
extending
one
more
six-month
lease
agreement
for
all
the
liveaboards
in
that
marina,
so
that
it
gives
them
some
time
and
breathing
room
to
do
something
and
then
move
on.
And
then
maybe
then
they
can
come
back
six
months
later.
But
I
do
think
that
we
looking
at
the
old
contracts,
there's
nothing
that
specifically
states
in
those
contracts.
B
It
does
state
that
they
must
adhere
to
all
city,
county
and
state
guidelines
as
far
as
submerged
land
leases
go.
But
what
it
does
not
say
is
that
they
only
can
live
in
the
marina
60
days
or
six
months
out
of
a
12-month
period
of
time,
and
it
wasn't
in
the
rules
and
regulations
addendum
to
that
contract
lease
agreement.
It
was
not
printed
and
you
know
people
are
people.
Are
they
like
to
see
something
in
black
and
white
when
they
sign
a
contract?
B
So
I,
after
reading,
through
those
contracts
and
realizing
that
those
contracts
did
not
specifically
state
that
they
would
have
to
leave
after
six
months.
I
would
like
to
see
if
this
council
would
consider
offering
one
six-month
addendum
and
give
those
residents
that
are
live
aboard
a
30-day
period
to
sign
the
new
contract.
So
essentially
they
would
have
seven
months
in
the
marina
debbie.
A
A
A
We
have
to
give
them
a
new
lease
for
six
months,
with
the
understanding
that,
unless
something
happens
in
the
meantime
that
we
can
work
something
out
with
the
state
that
they
do
have
to
leave
at
the
end
of
six
months,
I
will
reiterate
my
statement
that
I
do
not
understand
what
the
state
is
trying
to
accomplish
by
saying
that
a
liveaboard
can't
use
their
boat
as
their
primary
residence.
So
that's
why
they
can
only
be
there
six
months
minus
one
day.
A
This
is
a
boating
world.
I
mean
our
entire
state
is
coastal.
We
have
boats
everywhere
and
we
have
a
lot
of
liveaboards.
I
mean
there.
There
are
people
in
this
audience,
I'm
sure
that
at
some
point
in
time
have
lived
aboard
their
boat,
and
I
just
don't
understand.
This
is
almost
like
a
prejudice
to
me
and
I
really
feel
that
we
owe
it
to
them
to
at
least
give
them
a
fair
shake
and
I
think,
a
fair
shake
equals
six
months
more
mark.
M
I
don't
disagree
with
anything
that
you
said.
However,
this
is
not
something
that's
new.
This
is
has
been
in
the
cement
submerged
land
leases
for
probably
ever
or
close
to
that,
and
every
marina
that
has
a
submerged
land.
Lease
would
likely
have
the
exact
same
language
in
there
and
while
maybe
the
lease
didn't
say
that
you
needed
to
specify
the
six-month
issue,
it
did
specify
that
you
had
to
to
comply
with
all
the
regulations,
including
the
state
regulations,
and
I
don't
know
what
the
reason
is
either.
M
M
If
we
are
out
of
compliance
with
our
our
lease
and
the
answer
was
we
may
have
to
shut
down
the
entire
marina?
That
means
everybody
would
have
to
leave.
That
means
the
boat
ramp
is
shut
down.
That
means
that
everything
is
shut
down,
and
so
I
asked
the
question
because
I
do
think
that
it
is
fair
that
we
could
give
them
a
new
month
lease
and
let
it.
M
Stretching
it
to
seven
months
I
mean
so
we're
just
stretching
it
further,
but
I
I
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
six
months
necessarily.
However,
what
I
want
to
know
is
what
is
our
risk
that-
and
this
is
a
question
to
the
city
attorney?
What
is
our
risk
that
the
state
could
come
in
and
say:
that's
it
you're
out
of
compliance,
the
marina
is
shut
down.
If,
if
the
answer
is
it's
not
a
big
risk,
it's
a
risk,
but
it's
not
a
big
risk.
I'd
probably
be
willing
to
take
that
risk.
M
K
Well,
unfortunately,
I
know
of
no
precedent
either
way
to
be
guided
by
isis.
I
would
suspect
that,
in
the
normal
course
of
events
in
terms
of
enforcement
of
state
regulations
in
general
that
the
state
would
typically
give
you
an
opportunity
to
rectify
the
problem,
how
much
time
they
would
give
us
to
rectify
the
problem.
I
don't
know,
but
so
you
first
have
to
consider
all
right
at
what
point
in
time?
K
I
think
the
risk
of
them
shutting
down
the
marina
without
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
cure
the
the
the
problem
is
probably
not
very
great,
I'm
sure
that
they
would
give
us
an
opportunity
to
to
chat
to
come
into
compliance
and
and,
in
addition,
there's
an
opportunity
that
if
they
came
down
and
said
you're
out
of
compliance,
this
is
what
you
need
to
do.
You
need
to
do
it
right
away.
K
That's
a
final
agency
action
of
the
state
under
the
florida
administrative
procedures
zach,
we
would
have
an
opportunity
to
challenge
that
request,
a
hearing
and
that
takes
a
fairly
fairly
long
time
to
get
ultimately
resolved.
So
I
just
think
that
the
the
risk
of
us
being
shut
down
immediately
is
probably
very
small.
M
Okay
and
in
the
last
meeting,
we
also
gave
direction
to
inquire
to
resolve
this
permanently,
to
inquire
in
purchasing
the
submerged
land,
and
then
the
city
could
do
whatever
the
city
wanted
to
do
as
far
as
liverworts.
However,
that
is
going
to
take
years
to
happen,
that's
not
going
to
happen
in
six
or
seven
months,
so
so
the
fact
that
these
we
extend
this
lease
all
of
the
liver
boards
would
and
they
could
leave
their
boats
there.
M
K
M
K
Yes
and
thank
you
within
the
last
couple
of
years,
I've
been
I've
represented
other
marinas
that
were
looking
to
also
have
liver
boards
at
their
marina
and
the
best
that
I
was
that
the
state
is
willing
to
consider
is
the
six
months
utilizing
the
the
formula
that
that
we
used,
which
I
didn't
invent
it.
I
mean
there
was
precedent
elsewhere
in
the
state,
but
that's
as
far
as
they're
willing
to
go.
L
H
H
However,
if
you
read
the
lease,
if
you
take
this
issue
and
put
it
to
the
side
in
their
lease,
it
says
at
any
given
time
they
could
be
asked
to
vacate
within
30
days.
There
is
no
ownership
in
this
situation.
They
are
a
renter,
just
as
if
I
rented
a
home
and
the
home
decided
to
sell
or
the
owners
decided
to
move
back
in.
I
would
be
asked
to
leave
within
30
days,
so
I
think
personally,
we
are
taking
a
risk
for
a
statute
that
has
been
on
the
books.
H
I
know
I
run
a
business
and
I
have
to
know
the
laws
and
if
I
write
a
have
a
contract
that
says
please,
you
know
refer
to
statute,
etc,
etc.
I
have
an
obligation.
You
can't
just
assume
why
I
didn't
know
about
it.
You
know
I
do
think
the
marina
has
to
take
a
lot
of
hit
on
this
as
well
as
far
as
you
know,
not
making
sure
people
are
aware.
H
However,
clearly
in
the
lease
it
says
they
they
could
vacate
within
30
days,
written
notice
unless
somebody
from
the
state
calls
and
says
it's:
okay,
I'm
not
in
favor
of
giving
them
another
six
months.
We're
already
to
that
point,
and
my
other
fear
would
be.
Let's
say
we
do
and
then
the
state
does
come
in
now.
You've
got
five
days
to
get
out
so
now
we
have
to
scramble
to
try
to
have
everybody
get
out
in
five
days
or
the
marina
gets
shut
down.
It's
just
too
much
of
a
risk
they're
a
renter.
H
They
have
no
ownership.
So
at
any
given
time
the
marina
could
change
their
decision
to
rent
to
the
liveaboards,
and
I
think
we
need
to
stick
with
that.
We've
had
this
discussion
and
you
know
I
would
be
willing
to
you
know
we
already
at
90
days.
So
do
we
give
him
a
month?
You
know
a
couple
more
months
on
that,
possibly,
but
I
think
90
days
is
very
fair.
Considering
in
the
least
it
could
be
30
days
of
vacate.
E
B
And
I
had
earlier
said
to
give
them
30
days
to
sign
the
contract.
However,
since
we
don't
have
contracts
in
place
right
now,
maybe
we
consider
this
current
time
period
as
part
of
the
six
months
and
start
it
immediately
and-
and
they
have
a
couple
of
weeks
to
sign
the
agreement.
But
it's
it's
going
to
be
retro
or
pro
you
know
predated
to
whatever
the
day
is
that
we
approve
this.
So.
M
I
it's
actually
whether
anybody
signs
the
agreement
or
not
I'm
saying
six
months.
You
got
six
months
from
it
really
should
be
from
the
last
meeting,
since
that
was
the
original
discussion
yeah,
but
six
months
sign
it
or
not,
it
doesn't
matter
we'll.
We
will
close
our
eyes.
I
mean
we're
trying
to
be
helpful
and
fair
here,
but
we
have
to
follow
the
law.
You
have
to
follow
the
law.
Yeah.
B
And-
and
I
don't
disagree
with
that
at
all-
I
think
I
think
the
the
really
important
thing
is
I
I
would
like
to
show
an
act
of
kindness
and
and
try
to
give
these
folks
a
little
bit
of
breathing
room.
I
know
that
they
are
in
a
very
weird
predicament
and,
having
met
with
a
couple
of
them,
they
they
really
don't
have
any
place
to
go.
B
The
one
woman
that
was
with
us
in
our
meeting
had
done
all
kinds
of
research
and
looked
into
about
25
different
marinas,
and
there
is
no
place
for
them
to
go
right
now,
so
I'm
just
I'm
just
asking
for
let's
give
them
a
little
time
to
regroup
and
look
for
other
places
that
they
can
move
to
when
they
decide
to
move
and
they
can
leave
before
the
six
months
is
up
for
that
matter.
If
they
find
another
location
to
go
to.
So
that's
just
my
position.
B
H
Well,
I
don't
agree
that
it
in
in
regards
to
the
submerged
land
lease.
It
is
somewhat
our
fault
as
far
as
we
didn't
have,
the
management
company
didn't
have
their
ducks
in
a
row,
and
that
is
something
that
we
will
definitely
address,
but
at
the
same
time,
when
you're
a
renter,
you
have
no
ownership,
and
I
just
want
to
state
that
again
that
we
are
risking
renters
with
no
ownership
over
shutting
the
marina
down
and
I'm
just
not
comfortable
the
fact
that
the
state
hasn't
told
us
again,
like
mr
levin
said,
there's
no
precedent.
H
M
K
M
A
K
E
A
F
M
Well,
the
only
reason
I
was
ending
because
I
don't
want
somebody
to
say
well,
I'm
not
signed,
and
so
I'm
not
leaving.
So
I
mean
we
could
say
that
they
must
sign
the
lease
within
the
next
week
and
it's
effective.
As
of
the
last
meeting
in
six
months
I
mean
I'll,
that's
fine,
so
that
there's
my
motion
amended.
K
K
H
K
F
D
F
M
A
B
All
right,
so
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
floor,
to
allow
the
liver
boards
to
sign
a
new
six-month
use
agreement
that
will
commence
april
4th,
which
is
two
weeks
ago
and
will
be
valid
for
a
six-month
period
of
time,
at
which
time
they
will
have
to
vacate
the
marina
and
they
have
one
week
to
sign
those
agreements.
Correct
any
further
discussion
on
this.
F
B
B
Right
because
the
submerged
land
lease
has
specific
docks
that
are
allocated
for
liveaboard,
correct.
Okay,
all
right
is
there
any
further
discussion
on
this?
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye
opposed
opposed
motion,
carries
four
to
one
okay.
Thank
you
all
right.
We
have
four
public
hearings.
B
K
K
Yes,
this
is
a
resolution
which
I'll
read
by
title:
only
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
vacating.
All
of
that
certain
10
foot
wide
alley
lying
in
block
120
davis,
addition
to
punta
gorda,
a
subdivision
according
to
the
plat
thereof,
as
recorded
in
flatbook
1,
page
20
of
the
public
records
of
charlotte
county
florida
and
being
further
bounded
and
described
in
exhibit
a
attached
here
to
and
incorporated
herein
and
providing
an
effective
date.
I
I
I
So
there
are
ingress
egress,
easement
agreements
in
place.
The
applicant
is
working
with
the
fire
department
to
provide
stabilized
surface
adjacent
to
the
alley
for
fire
access,
garbage
trucks
will
be
allowed
access,
and
this
will
help
facilitate
further
development
of
the
block.
The
applicant
owns
more
than
60
percent
of
the
properties.
There
only
two
are
not
owned
by
the
applicant.
I
B
I
B
B
Okay,
I
don't
know
what
that
was
all
right,
so
it
is
not
officially
a
city
street
then
correct.
That
is
correct.
Okay,
thank
you.
Any
other
questions
for
city
staff.
This
is
a
public
hearing.
If
anyone
would
like
to
address
counsel
on
this
issue,
please
come
to
the
podium.
You
have
three
minutes
state,
your
name
for
the
record.
Also,
please.
F
Hi
good
morning
my
name
is
ed.
Witsky
I've
been
sworn
I
just
wanted
to
for
commissioner
councilwoman
lockhart's
question.
We
have
been
in
discussions
with
the
two
other
lot
owners.
The
lot
owners
have
executed
the
easement
agreement
and
are
in
agreement
with
the
vacation
of
the
alley
and
don't
really
have
anything
else
to
say.
I
think
I
think
the
lisa
has
pretty
much
said
everything
that's
relevant.
B
B
E
B
I
I
I
B
B
A
B
B
Okay,
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously
and
just
like
all
annexations,
there
are
three
hearings
and
then
the
one
has
to
go
to
the
state
for
approval
for
the
comp
plan.
Changes
correct,
correct,
yes,
so
that
will
eventually
come
back
to
us
after
we
get
the
cut
the
state's
rendering,
okay
and.
I
K
Yes,
this
is
the
first
reading
of
an
ordinance
which
I
read
by
title.
Only
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
puente
gorda
florida
amending
the
city
of
puente,
gorda,
comprehensive
plan,
future
land
use
map
to
include
newly
annexed
lands
amending
the
future
land
use
map
to
reflect
the
change
in
the
current
designation
of
commercial,
slash
county
to
highway
commercial
corridor
city
for
23,
986,
plus
or
minus
square
feet.
0.55,
plus
or
minus
acres
identified
as
lot
37
block
a
kia
star
subdivision,
as
recorded
in
flat
book
3
page
11.
I
Good
morning,
lisa
hannan
zoning
official
and
have
been
sworn,
I
would
like
to
enter
our
staff
report
into
the
record
by
reference
in
its
entirety.
This
is
a
companion
amendment,
the
comprehensive
plan,
future
land
use
amendment.
So
it
does
change
the
future
land
use
map
from
county
commercial
to
city,
highway
commercial
corridor,
and
it
applies
all
the
provisions
of
the
city's
comprehensive
plan.
I
Again
102
rio
villa
drive,
plus
or
minus
0.55
acres.
It's
the
companion
amendment
to
their
application
to
the
annexation
and
it
precipitates
the
need
for
the
comprehensive
plan
amendment.
So
it
is
consistent
with
the
2040
comprehensive
plan.
Future
land
use,
objective,
1.1.14
policy,
1.1.1,
4.3
infrastructure
goal,
3.4,
objective,
3.4.1
policies,
3.2.2.3
3.4.1.1
transportation,
objective,
7.1.6
policy,
7.1.1.5,
7.1.6.3,
7.2.1.1,
intergovernmental
coordination
goal,
1.1,
objective,
9.1.1
and
policies,
9.1.1.1,
9.1.2.12
and
capital
improvements,
objective,
10.1.4
and
policy
10.1.4.1.
I
Concurrency
requirements,
roadways,
it
is
an
exis
existing
road
network
and
it
will
accommodate
the
background
and
project
traffic,
potable
water,
it's
within
the
utility
service
area
and
currently
served
with
municipal
water
and
sanitary
sewer,
municipal
wastewater
collection,
storm,
water
and
drainage.
It
is
an
existing
development,
so
that
is
not
applicable
and
the
solid
waste
the
county
facility
is
has
sufficient
capacity.
I
The
application
is
in
order
and
all
the
statutory
requirements
have
been
wet.
It
is
consistent
with
the
city
of
puna
gorda
comprehensive
plan,
2040.,
a
rezoning
application
is
required
and
it
is
running
concurrently
with
the
annexation
and
the
comprehensive
plan.
Amendment
and
any
new
or
additional
development
will
require
development
review.
Drc
approval,
the
city
of
penal
gorda
planning
commission
recommended
approval,
as
does
urban
design
staff.
B
B
A
B
B
K
And
this
is
the
first
reading
of
an
ordinance
which
will
read
by
title
only
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
puente,
gorda
florida,
rezoning,
23,
986
plus
or
my
square
feet.
0.55
plus
or
minus
acres
identified
as
lot
37
block
a
a
kia
star
subdivision,
as
recorded
in
platt
book
3,
page
11,
public
records
of
charlotte
county
florida
being
more
particularly
described
in
exhibit
a
attached
here
too,
and
incorporated
herein
and
addressed
as
102.
I
I
It
is
currently
served
with
municipal,
water
and
wastewater.
So
for
concurrency
requirements,
roadway
facilities.
It
is
an
existing
developed
commercial
property.
It
is
on
city,
water
and
sewer,
storm,
water
and
drainage.
Since
its
existing
developed
commercial
property
is
not
applicable,
solid
waste
collection
will
be
provided
by
the
city
and
the
county's
zimmer
road
landfill
has
sufficient
capacity
through
the
2030
planing,
horizon
parks
and
recreation
is
not
applicable,
since
it
is
an
existing
developed,
commercial
property
and
the
public
school
concurrency
is
not
applicable
due
to
being
commercial
property.
I
I
B
B
Anyone
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
address
counsel
on
this
issue.
Last
call:
would
anyone
in
the
audience
like
to
address
counsel
on
this
issue,
move
the
closed
public
hearing?
Second,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
close
the
public
hearing.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye,
aye,
aye
opposed
motion,
carries
generously.
E
B
I
F
Could
I
make
a
comment,
while
he's
doing
that?
Oh
well
right,
just
make
a
quick
comment
that
obviously
with
annexations
like
this,
it
takes
a
lot
of
staff,
time
and
effort
to
make
sure
it's
consistent
with
everything
we
needed
to
be
and
that
it's
good
for
the
city
and
especially
on
one
like
this,
where
the
property
owner,
you
know,
isn't
doing
these
developments
all
the
time.
It
can
be
very
daunting
for
a
property
owner
to
look
at
all
these
regulations
and
then
decide
well
yep,
I'm
going
to
make
that
change.
F
So
not
only
do
we
like
to
say
that
we
appreciate
all
the
work
staff
did
on
this,
and
it
has
been
quite
some
time
since
this
has
first
come
up,
but
also
with
captain
bill.
We
appreciate
all
the
time
and
effort
he
spent
to
actually
get
to
this
point.
I
know
he's
going
to
be
a
valued
addition
to
the
city
and
he
talks
us
up
all
the
time.
F
D
F
B
K
All
right
all
right,
thank
you
mayor.
So
this
is
the
second
reading
of
an
ordinance
which
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
an
ordinance
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
puente,
gorda
florida
amending
chapter
16
park
regulations,
subsection
16-4,
find
the
order
code
by
adding
a
new
subsection
16-4
m,
I'm
going
to
go
to
code,
providing
daily
hours
for
park,
closure
prohibiting
the
use
and
occupancy
of
city
parks
during
hours
of
closure,
providing
exceptions
to
the
prohibition
providing
for
conflicts
and
severability
and
providing
an
effective
date
mayor.
K
Let
me
point
out
that
at
the
first
reading
there
was
a
discussion
and
ultimately
a
decision
to
delete
gilchrist,
pier
from
the
from
the
exceptions
and
after
the
last
city
council
meeting
I've
made
that
amendment,
but
apparently
the
the
wrong
draft
was
included
in
your
agenda
packet.
So
we
will
correct
that,
upon
your
final
approval
and
signing.
I
K
K
B
A
B
B
Since
there's
only
one
thing
and
we
don't
have,
if
there's
no
minutes
or
anything,
we
need
a
motion
motion
to
approve.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
consent
agenda.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
motion
carries
unanimously
and
let's
take
a
10
minute
break,
we'll
be
back
at
10
30.
L
D
B
C
Or
just
yes,
thank
you
good
morning,
kelly
gaylord
from
agora,
historic
mural
society
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
present
this
project
to
you
today.
Here
we
go
so
it
is
a
refresh.
The
mural
exists
already
it's
over
at
the
baker
center
school.
It's
actually
the
second
version
of
it.
The
very
first
version
of
it
was
painted
in
2003
but
was
lost
with
hurricane
charlie,
so
it
was
repainted
again
at
the
baker
center
school
and
as
part
of
our
ongoing
maintenance
and
inspections.
C
We
currently,
we
always
inspect
our
murals,
and
we
decided
that
a
refresh
was
needed
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago.
So
this
is
a
project
we've
been
working
on
for
about
a
year
and
a
half
working
extensively
with
the
blanchard
house,
museum
historian
and
others
as
well
to
find
out
all
the
historic
references
and
really
look
at
a
total
new
design
for
the
mural.
C
So
just
a
couple,
refreshers
we've
done
two
refresh
projects.
Pat
we
finished
in
january.
The
first
was
george
brown,
the
life
and
times
of
george
brown,
which
the
design
stayed
the
same
and
then
the
second
one
was
captivating
charlotte
county
and
because
the
actual
wall
size
changed,
we
did
a
refresh
on
the
design.
So
this
is
something
that
we're
starting
to
do
as
we
look
back
at
some
of
our
older
murals.
C
So
this
is
a
look
at
what
the
original
one
looked
like
in
2003
and
then
the
one
in
2007
when
it
was
repainted
so
and
we
look
at
a
refresh
we're
looking
at
the
particular
factors,
of
course,
age
and
deterioration
fading
that
kind
of
thing.
We
also
look
at
the
overall
design
any
if
there's
any
historical,
inaccuracies
etc,
and
I'm
going
to
walk
through
those
really
quickly.
That
kind
of
led
us
to
the
refresh
it
is
starting
to
show
signs
of
fading
discoloration.
C
C
The
overall
design
of
this
mural
again
was
designed
back
in
2002
back
then,
the
design
of
like
a
figure
and
a
name
was
kind
of
popular.
It's
really
not
something
we
do
much
anymore.
It
doesn't
really
do
a
good
job
at
communicating
what
the
history
is
all
about.
So
unfortunately,
this
has
that
old
design.
So
we
want
to
change
it
to
something
new
that
will
draw
the
viewer
in,
unfortunately,
there's
also
some
historical
inaccuracies
on
the
mural.
It
happens
from
time
to
time.
We
have
a
name,
that's
spelled
wrong.
C
We've
got
the
wrong
insignias
for
some
of
the
militaries,
the
one
that
the
biggest
issue
is
the
the
family.
That's
shown
there
is
labeled
as
turpentine
workers.
It
really
was
actually
a
farming
family
on
the
original
mural.
Somehow
it
got
changed
to
turpentine
workers,
which
is
a
total
misrepresentation
of
what
what
that
would
have
been.
Also
the
bus
says
lee
county
schools,
and
it
really
should
say
charlotte
county
schools,
a
couple
of
things
there
that
are
wrong.
C
The
other
thing
that's
happened
since
this
mural
was
painted,
is
two
of
the
individuals
in
the
mural
are
now
on
other
murals,
newer
murals.
So
of
course,
george
brown
has
a
mural
all
to
his
own,
and
we
also
have
cornelia
ponder
who
is
in
our
ladies
remembered
mural,
so
by
removing
them
in
the
new
design,
it
offers
the
opportunity
to
add
additional
content
which
we're
excited
about,
and
then,
lastly,
which
is
probably
one
of
the
more
important
things.
C
The
overall
artistic
quality
of
this
mural,
is
really
not
comparable
to
our
current
standards,
and
this
is
now
the
appropriate
time
to
improve
the
overall
quality
okay.
So
when
we
looked
at
this
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
and
started
working
with
scott
shively
from
the
blanchard
house
museum,
we
started
looking
at
a
brand
new
design
that
would
really
draw
people
in
and
and
really
present
the
history,
not
just
a
bunch
of
people
and
names.
C
C
The
second
was
existing
content.
That's
on
the
mural
already,
which
talks
about
dan
smith,
who
came
with
the
surveying
crew
for
the
railroad.
He
was
instrumental
instrumental
in
organizing
the
very
first
religious
service
here
and
built
a
brush
arbor
to
have
that
service.
So
we're
just
upgrading
that
panel.
C
The
next
one
is
benjamin
baker.
He
was
recruited
by
dan
smith
to
teach
at
the
first
black
school
that
we
had
here
two
room
school
in
1902
and
he
is
on
the
existing
mural,
but
we're
going
to
upgrade
it
a
little
bit
and
feature
him
at
his
desk.
We
also
feature
a
bible
on
the
desk.
It
was.
He
was
known
to
to
give
a
bible
to
each
graduating
student.
C
Desegregation
of
our
high
schools
happened
in
1963
and
we
really
want
to
pay
tribute
to
the
charlotte
high
five,
the
five
hand-picked
students
which
were
chosen
to
desegregate
our
school
system,
and
if
you
notice
this
isn't
the
front
of
the
school,
we
in
our
research
we
found
out
the
very
front
of
the
high
school
at
that
time
was
blocked
off
the
faculty.
Lounge
was
right
behind
the
front
door,
so
all
the
students
entered
by
the
side
door.
C
The
next
panel
takes
features
the
first
recreation
center,
which
is
called
the
wreck,
and
it
was
an
old
army
barracks
that
was
purchased
and
put
on
some
land
that
was
donated
by
the
city
over
on
dupont
street,
and
it
was
the
hub
of
the
community.
It
was
where
they
did,
parties
and
dances,
and
things
was
also
a
place
for
after-school
help.
So
we
wanted
to
feature
that
in
the
playground
that
was
there
and
we
did
save
the
poll.
Remember
the
poll
these
guys
saved
that
we
moved
it
to
the
new
rec
center.
C
Existing
content
features
airman
charles
bailey,
again.
First
lieutenant
u.s
air
corps,
charles
bailey,
and
he
was
actually
the
very
first
black
aviator
from
florida
to
become
a
tuskegee
airman.
So
we're
going
to
upgrade
that
one
a
little
bit
and
then
we
have
robert
meacham
robert
meacham
was
our
first,
our
first
black
postmaster.
C
C
Okay,
so
one
of
the
the
panel
that
we
had
on
the
existing
mural
was
did
feature
nate
and
his
florida
stompers.
We
want
to
include
that
again,
but
we're
also
going
to
include
goldman's
bar
the
iconic
arches
of
goldman's
bar,
which
is
where
a
lot
of
play
they
played.
There
was
a
big
ballroom.
There
was
called
the
the
royal
palm
ballroom
and
all
kinds
of
entertainers
traveling
along
the
chitlin
trail
would
stop
there
to
eat,
but
also
entertain
on
their
way
to
fort
myers,
maybe
to
mccollum
hall
and
others.
C
People
like
bb
king
actually
played
there
little
john
little,
willy
john
and
others.
So
we
want
to
pay
tribute
to
that
and
then
the
last
panel
is
a
new
content.
We
want
to
talk
about
sports
and
feature
field
and
track
star
tommy,
fulton,
tommy
fulton
was
went
to
charlotte
high
school
and
actually
won
the
cross
country
state
title
in
1968
and
then
in
1969
he
won
the
two-mile
and
the
one-mile
races.
His
records
stood
at
charlotte
county
for
47
and
42
years
respectively,
which
is
amazing.
C
He
did
go
on
to
college
and
ran
track
there.
He
didn't
make
the
olympics,
he
was
in
the
olympic
trials.
His
shoe
actually
fell
off
during
the
olympic
trials
became
an
eighth,
but
then,
when
he
was
in
college,
he
became
the
second
black
man
in
the
united
states
to
break
the
four
minute
mile,
and
he
did
it
faster
than
the
first
guy.
C
Who
did
it
so
pay
tribute
to
him
and
then
also
pay
tribute
to
the
the
baseball
field
that
was
located
in
east
punter
gorda
and
that
the
team
that
played
there
and
played
a
number
of
the
traveling
teams
that
came
around
it
was
where
the
baker
center
school
is.
Today.
That's
where
the
field
was
and
it
had
bleachers.
We
actually
have
photos
from
it
from
a
video
that
was
taken
and
it
was
something
I
didn't
even
know
existed,
and
it
was
really
a
draw
for
the
city.
C
C
So,
as
you
can
see,
it
looks
quite
different
than
the
original
one.
The
other
thing
that
this
particular
mural
has
a
sidewalk
in
front
of
it.
You
really
don't
walk
up
to
the
mural.
You
pretty
much
stay
on
the
sidewalk,
so
we're
proposing
to
have
an
actual
plaque
there.
That
will
allow
you
to
have
a
qr
code
for
each
panel,
that
you'll
be
able
to
scan
and
learn
more
about
that
and
of
course,
we
will
request
a
sign
permit
for
the
plaque.
C
And
that's
the
difference
there,
that's
what
it's
gonna
look
like:
it
has
been
approved
by
the
charlotte
county
school
district.
We
have
received
approval
from
them
and
fundraising
will
begin
upon
your
approval.
This
is
a
very
large
mural.
It's
104
feet,
long
by
eight
and
a
half
feet
tall
so
and
it
is
basically
ten
individual
murals
that
will
be
painted.
So
we
do
need
to
raise
quite
a
bit
of
money
about
fifty
thousand
dollars.
So
we
look
for
for
community
support
on
that.
C
M
C
B
I
think
it
looks
great.
We
need
a
motion
permission
to
approve
the
motion
to
approve
have
two
motions
to
approve:
do
we
have
do
we
have
a
second
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
local
black
history
mural,
and
is
there
any
further
discussion
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
B
D
Good
morning,
julie,
rogan
started
procurement
for
the
record,
I'm
here
to
present
the
award
of
agreement
to
boyd
irrigation
at
fort
myers
florida
to
construct
water
main
improvements
at
taylor.
Road
punta
garda
excuse
me:
okay,
procurement
solicited
bids
to
construct
water
main
improvements
located
at
taylor,
pontegorda
and
184
solicitation
notices
were
sent
out,
14
viewed
the
solicitation
online
and
the
city
received
five
responses
due
to
supply
chain
issues
and
the
vulnerability
volatility
of
pipe
pricing.
D
The
city
intends
to
process
and
own
a
direct
purchase
under
this
agreement
for
line
item
5a
for
12-inch
pvc
dr-18
pipe.
Only
this
would
be
the
bulk
of
the
pipe
purchase
and
is
what
is
of
most
concern
to
the
contractors.
The
city
is
going
to
purchase
the
pipe
directly
from
the
manufacturer
and
store
on
city
property.
D
And
this
is
inclusive
of
a
5
contingency
budget
project
total,
including
other
expenditures
which
includes
engineering,
design
and
cei
services,
would
be
3
million.
Five
hundred
and
forty
one
thousand
eight
hundred
and
ten
dollars
even
and
the
total
construction
time
to
complete
this
project
is
365
calendar
days
and
a
notice
to
proceed
will
be
issued
upon
receipt
of
the
contractors,
insurance
and
performance
and
payment
bonds.
D
B
Questions
for
staff-
I
do
have
one
question,
so
the
utility
fund
is
paying
for
the
expense
of
this
project.
However,
since
those
pro
properties
along
that
corridor
are
mostly
not
in
the
city,
limits
are
impact
fees
involved
at
all
in
this,
as
far
as
getting
some
of
that
money
back
we're
going
to
be
putting
a
lot
of
properties
online,
I
assume
with
our
water
and
sewer
service.
B
B
D
D
D
F
Okay
and
a
couple
other
things
when
we're
looking
at
how
we
now
do
business,
you
know
again.
Another
thing
you
can
do
in
the
utility
department
is
planning
upsizing
for
growth,
making
lots
you're
referencing
12-inch
line,
but
when
we
look
at
how
we
do
business
we're
looking
at
the
stored
materials
that
was
referenced,
because
when
we
look
at
pvc
pipe,
we
could
be
four
to
six
months
out
for
pvc
pipe.
F
Just
because
we
didn't
purchase
the
pipe
up
front,
we're
purchasing
it
as
the
city,
storing
it
on
the
property
and
then
the
contractor
will
use
it
from
us
still
a
cost,
if
not
a
little
less
to
the
city
for
the
pipe,
but
we're
guaranteed
that
we
have
it.
The
project
can
continue
and
we
don't
have
escalators
in
there
for
pipe
costs.
B
F
B
B
B
Any
questions
for
staff:
we
need
a
motion
move
to
approve
a
second.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
award
the
agreement
to
boyd
irrigation
for
construction
of
water,
main
improvements
on
taylor
road.
Any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
D
Good
morning,
anne
heinem
procurement-
this
is
a
component
of
the
project
that
you
previously
approved.
This
is
for
construction
services.
It
will
be
processed
as
an
amendment
to
the
master
agreement
that
was
previously
approved
phase
one
of
the
project
for
the
master
agreement
was
design
and
permitting
phase
two
processed
under
amendment
two
will
be
the
construction
services.
D
Construction
services
consist
of
construction
observation
review
and
responding
to
requests
for
information
from
the
contractor
during
construction,
provide
record
drawings
of
the
completed
project,
application
for
payment
review
and
approval
when
the
contractor
submits
the
application
for
a
payment
for
work
that
they've
done
during
the
month.
That's
reviewed
and
approved
by
the
engineer
attend
any
city,
progress
meetings
and
the
project
closeout
and
final
certification
to
the
regulatory
agencies,
which
is
fdep
and
charlotte
county.
In
this
case,
the
cost
is
200
420
dollars.
This
is
a
not
to
exceed
amount.
D
The
not
to
exceed
is
simply
that
and
not
to
exceed.
We've
done
it.
This
way,
just
in
case
that
in
a
previous
project
that
we
had
with
johnson
engineering
when
they
performed
construction
services
on
the
loop
project,
the
budget
actually
came
in
a
little
bit
lower.
So
this
is
a
way
that
we
can
look
at
the
hours
included
in
the
project
for
their
services.
They'll
have
to
bill
us
by
hours.
D
The
city
will
confirm
that
they
were
there
for
those
hours
and
it
it
could
potentially
be
a
savings
to
us
in
the
end
time
frame.
For
these
the
phase
two
for
the
closeout,
the
project
will
be
12
months.
Approximately
closeout
will
take
approximately
a
few
more
months,
so
it
would
be
a
completion
of
18
months,
so
staff
is
recommending
the
approval
of
authorization
number
two
to
johnson
engineering.
D
B
B
So
it's
a
very
real
deal.
Okay,
we
need
a
motion
for
approval
move
to
approve.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
award
authorization
number
two
to
johnson
engineering
of
fort
myers
for
construction
services
for
the
taylor,
road
water
main
project.
Any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye,
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
F
F
All
those
things
that
you
need
for
a
quality
product
review
and
respond
to
requests
for
information
submitted
by
the
contractor.
You
know
I
was
digging
and
we
ran
into
a
hole.
How
do
we
fill
that
hole?
What
material
do
we
use?
You
know?
What
do
we
have
to
do
to
bed
the
pipe
here?
We
ran
into
a
couple
electric
lines
that
weren't
on
the
plans.
How
do
we
you
know
mitigate
that
circumstance?
What
do
we
have
to
do
with
the
piping?
Any
questions
like
that
that
come
into
play?
F
It's
all
part
of
this
cost
when
we
look
at
record
drawings
as
built
making
sure
we
know
exactly
where
the
pipe
is
the
location,
the
elevation
et
cetera.
So
when
it
has
to
be
located
or
repaired
in
the
future,
we
know
exactly
where
it
is.
They
have
to
provide
that
application
for
payment
review
and
approval.
If
the
contractor's
submitting
it
says
we
did
1500
or
1500
feet
of
pipe,
and
we
used
this
much
material
that
was
excess
and
blah
blah
blah.
They
verify
that
all
that
is
something
that's
supposed
to
be
paid
to
the
contractor.
F
That
records
were
kept
properly,
that
we're
not
overpaying,
so
that
we
make
sure
that
the
project
stays
on
budget,
attend
the
city
meetings
and
then
project
and
certification
making
sure
the
pipes
put
in
service
properly.
It's
a
quality,
final
product,
it's
disinfected,
it's
ready
to
go
in
service
and
has
state
approval
to
do
so.
F
These
type
of
construction
management
contracts
provide
all
of
those
services
back
to
the
city.
So,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
when
it's
turned
over
to
the
city
for
final
use,
we
make
sure
we
have
a
quality
project
so
well
worth
the
money
we
spend
for
construction
management
and,
of
course,
it's
case
by
case
specific
and
we're
doing
things
to
actually
mitigate
some
of
the
construction
management
on
our
larger
projects,
so
that
we
can
do
that
more
cost
effectively
too.
B
J
For
the
record,
joan
lebeau
urban
design
manager
staff
is
presenting
the
first
draft
of
the
land
development
regulation
form-based
codes.
Today.
This
draft
contains
months
of
work
that
the
staff
consultant,
the
building
industry,
hoas
city
residents,
planning,
commission
and,
of
course,
you,
the
city
council,
have
provided
us
the
input
for
it.
All.
The
valuable
information
that
we
have
collected
over
the
on
the
project
are
either
have
either
been
incorporated
into
this
presentation
or
will
be
incorporated
into
the
next
draft.
As
we
move
forward
through
the
process,
we
are
very
excited
to
be
presenting
this
today.
J
J
We'll
go
over
overlay
districts,
building
heights
and
community
benefits
we'll
end
with
the
next
steps,
as
we
move
through
the
process,
article
7,
our
architectural
standards
and
all
the
other
articles
that
need
to
be
updated,
including
parking,
will
be
presented
and
discussed
in
upcoming
city
council
meetings.
There's
a
lot
of
information
out
there
to
digest
and
it
can
be
very
complicated,
so
we
wanted
to
break
it
down
into
segments
that
were
easily
handable.
J
L
Excuse
me,
so
the
city,
of
course,
has
a
zoning
regulating
districts
for
the
entirety
of
the
city.
The
proposal
here
is
to
add
one
new
form
based
code
district,
which
would
be
the
traditional
puna
gorda
district.
It
would
cover
the
area
highlighted
there
in
orange,
so
a
very
small
segment
of
the
city
within
that
area.
There
are
several
zoning
classifications
which
only
occur
there,
so
those
conventional
zoning
districts
would
would
go
away
or
otherwise
be
modified.
L
So
also
within
this
area
there
are
a
number
of
overlay
districts,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
done
is
tried
to
streamline
this.
So
there
has
been
a
an
effort
to
delete
districts
or
move
their
boundaries
so
that
they
more
easily
encompass
the
areas
where
we
have
concern
that
the
areas
of
critical
concern.
So
the
first
thing
that
we
have
done
is
we
deleted
the
waterfront
overlay
district.
L
The
provisions
that
are
in
the
current
waterfront
overlay
district
are
folded
into
the
some
of
those
underlying
regulating
district
requirements,
and
I
want
to
point
out
that
there
are
only
four
sort
of
developable
properties
within
that
overlay
district
as
it
currently
occurs.
It's
really
fisherman's
village,
the
event
center,
the
punta
gorda
waterfront
hotel
and
the
sheraton
four
points:
harbor
inn
property.
L
In
terms
of
the
other
modifications,
it's
to
the
historic
districts
with
name
changes,
boundary
changes
we'll
go
over
those
a
little
bit
more
in
detail
in
terms
of
other
things
that
have
changed
currently
within
the
codes.
There
are
plan
development
districts
and
the
proposal
here
is
to
adopt
a
new
plan
development
mixed
use
district
that
would
enable
a
developer
at
their
choosing
to
use
the
form-based
code
provisions
on
their
property
outside
of
the
form
based
code
area.
So
if
they
wanted
to
come
in
at
their
choosing
and
say,
hey
I
really
like
this.
L
Can
I
use
this
on
my
property
instead
of
the
conventional
zoning?
They
could
do
that.
The
other
change
is
that
no
new
plan
developments
would
be
permitted
within
the
traditional
puna
border
district.
So
the
current
provisions
in
planned
development,
which
is
article
5,
which
allows
additional
entitlements,
etc.
That
would
not
be
permitted
within
that
form
based
code
area.
It
would
only
be
those
provisions
specific
to
the
traditional
puna,
gordon
district.
L
So
the
format
of
of
the
form
based
code
is
really
some
three
major
sections.
It's
you
know,
purpose
and
organization,
which
is
just
giving
you
the
background
of
it.
The
regulating
plan,
which
is
really
maps
and
tables
and
the
basic
definitions
of
what
those
districts
are,
including
some
nice
summary
tables
which
you
can't
read
on
this
screen,
but
in
the
document
it
gives
you
a
sort
of
a
three-page
synopsis
of
what's
going
on
there
and
then
the
big
bulk
of
the
of
the
document
is
in
the
regulating
districts
and
overlay
districts.
L
So
the
first
thing
that
I
would
like
to
point
out
about
the
regulating
plan
is
that
the
regulating
districts
that
are
proposed
more
or
less
align
with
the
zoning
districts
that
we
currently
have
so
on
the
screen.
Now
the
the
names
of
the
current
zoning
districts
are
assigned
to
the
colors
on
the
map.
There
is
one
new
color
on
the
map,
so
that
is
the
neighborhood
transition
zone
so
that
pinkish
color
on
the
map,
those
neighborhood
transition
areas.
L
L
So
speaking
about
the
overlay
districts
within
the
traditional
punaborta
area,
the
overlay
districts
will
be
confined
to
the
five
that
are
listed
on
the
screen.
We
have
four
historic
districts,
so
downtown
main
street.
The
grace
street
commercial
with
our
grace
street
mid-century,
modern
that
is
a
newly
proposed
district
and
then
the
neighborhood
conservation
district.
So
the
neighborhood
conservation
district,
the
boundaries
remain
unchanged,
the
other
two
districts
downtown
and
main
street
those
are
reshaped
based
on
the
current
districts.
L
So
the
area
of
the
dow
of
the
downtown
historic
district
is
actually
growing
and
expanding
if
compared
to
the
national
register.
Historic
district,
the
shape
of
the
main
street
historic
district
is
actually
shrinking
to
only
encompass
those
parts
of
the
downtown
where
we
have
existing
historic
structures
and
streetscapes.
L
L
L
So
the
main
body
of
article
3
is
in
section
3.2
c
2
through
9
and
those
outline
each
one
of
the
regulating
districts
and
the
format
of
those
they're
they're,
four
to
five
pages
long
for
each
district.
It's
laying
out
these
sections
a
through
g,
the
intent,
the
building
types
and
lot
sizes,
the
building
forms,
building
placement
parking
and
that's
really
about
parking
placement
parking
is
defined
in
article
10,
which
we'll
be
discussing
in
a
subsequent
meeting
encroachments,
which
is
about
architectural
features
actually
and
then
architectural
provisions
which
are
actually
in
article
7.
L
But
it's
telling
you
there
what
styles
are
applicable.
So
each
one
of
these
is
detail.
Each
one
of
these
sections
is
detailed,
with
a
table
similar
to
what
you
see
on
the
screen
and
a
diagram
of
some
shape,
form
or
fashion.
Like
you
see
on
the
screen
which
clarifies
what
we
mean
by
each
one
of
those
provisions
so
like
building
height.
It's
really
talking
about.
L
You
know
this.
What
is
the
building
height
and
so
the
building
height
is
broken
down
per
regulating
district
there's
a
base
which
is
the
the
fundamental
right
and
then
a
maximum
potential.
With
the
proposed
community
benefit
program,
at
this
point
I
would
like
to
point
out
in
terms
of
building
height,
the
proposed
building
heights
in
the
land
development
regulations
for
this
base
for
the
without
community
benefits
program
is
fundamentally
identical
to
what
we
have
now.
L
L
So,
just
a
quick
refresher,
we've
you've
all
if
you
follow
this
process.
You've
all
probably
seen
this
slide
before
in
the
city
of
pontegorda,
we
measure
building
height
a
little
bit
different
than
a
lot
of
other
places
and
the
primary
reason
for
that
is
because
we're
concerned
about
you
know
the
potential
flood
risk
in
our
area.
L
So
we
start
measuring
from
a
regulatory
perspective,
building
height
at
base
flood
elevation,
and
that
is
to
ensure
that
we
are
developing
a
flood
resilient
community.
Now
that
base
flood
elevation
building
height.
What's
below
that,
we
also
would
include
the
florida
building
code
and
requires
that
one
foot
of
what
they
call
free
board,
which
is
additional
protection
above
base
flood
elevation
based
on
the
flood
insurance
rate
maps
that
that
is
included
as
well.
L
L
Additionally,
there's
a
section
in
the
code:
it's
8.3
general
standards
of
applicability,
exclusions
for
building
height,
and
in
that
section
it
permits
a
maximum
of
20
percent
of
the
regulatory
building
height
to
be
in
these
exclusions,
which
would
be
things
above
the
roof
that
are
not
intended
for
human
habitation
and
that's
like
elevator
and
stair
towers,
architectural
features
like
roof,
spires
or
rooftop
pools
and
other
similar
amenities
and
uses
so
non-habitable
space.
So
the
example
on
the
screen
here
is
the
wyvern
hotel
and
there's
seven
feet
of
that.
L
Building
is
below
base
flood
elevation,
50
feet
of
that
building
is
the
actual
regulatory
height
to
the
actual
roof
and
then
there's
a
10
foot
of
exclusions.
The
rooftop
amenities
that
exist
on
that
hotel,
the
perch
restaurant,
the
pool
for
the
hotel,
and
that
is,
gives
you
an
overall
building
height
of
67
feet.
So
this
is
a
67
foot
tall
building.
If
you're
standing
on
the
sidewalk
from
a
regulatory
perspective,
it
was
approved
just
through
the
regular
development
review
process,
because
it
is
a
50-foot
building
with
10
foot
of
exclusions.
L
F
And
that's
an
important
concept
if
I
can
interject.
This
is
a
very
important
slide,
because
just
because
it's
below
bfe
does
not
mean
that
it's
not
usable
in
this
example.
Obviously
dry
floodproofing
parking,
whatever
the
case
may
be,
can
still
be
used
in
that
seven
foot,
that's
shown
it
doesn't
have
to
be
up
on
a
hill,
and
we've
talked
about
that
a
lot
of
times.
So
that's
an
important
concept.
L
A
L
And
and
that's
actually
something
that
we
could,
we
could
attempt
to
address
directly
in
the
code.
I
can
say
that
this
building,
particularly
this
lot,
is
actually
a
trapezoid
on
that
top
end
at
the
the
road
right
away
sort
of
at
a
diagonal
to
the
other
to
the
41
side.
So
that's
the
actual
design
of
this
building
as
a
response
to
the
lot,
because
it's
easier
to
build
square
buildings
than
odd-shaped
ones.
So
building
the
building
in
this
manner
was
actually
just
a
response
to
the
way
the
land
was
planted.
L
K
L
So
this
building
is
actually
zero
foot
set
back
on
two
of
the
four
sides
of
the
building
on
the
41.
The
alley
side
is
zero
and
also
on
the
front
on
the
red
esplanade
facade,
the
the
portion
that
sticks
out
towards
the
roadway
that
is
at
zero
lot
line
and
then,
as
you
get
closer
to
the
to
the
alley
side
of
the
building,
it's
almost
close
to
zero.
There
too.
It's
only
a
couple
of
feet.
A
But
see
the
average
person
who
is
concerned
about
our
codes
that
doesn't
matter
right.
It
doesn't
matter
to
me
either
what
I'm
concerned
with
is
the
way
it
looks
and
feels
does
it
fit
our
city,
and
I'm
I'm
expressing
to
you
that,
regardless
of
the
reason
this
building
is
more
acceptable
than
it
would
be
if
it
looked
like
spring
hill
suites.
L
Yes,
yes,
so
so
zero
lot
line
means
that
it's
to
the
property
line,
the
actual
right-of-way,
which
holds
the
street
in
our
downtown
area,
most
of
our
right-of-ways,
were
originally
planted
at
66
foot
in
width.
So
within
that
66
foot
in
width,
you
have
the
the
travel
lanes
of
the
road
which
are
typically
24
to
26
foot
wide,
and
then
you
may
have
parking,
which
is
another
16
foot
and
then
the
rest
of
the
land
is
the
the
walkways
the
sidewalks
and
then
the
property
begins.
L
L
L
It's
pretty
tight
there,
but
the
code,
and
I
can
say
that
within
within
article
three,
it
is
difficult
to
see
because
that's
the
the
regulatory
standards
right,
so
zero
lot
line
has
existed
in
our
downtown
since
at
least
the
1980s
probably
before,
then,
because
there
was
a
central
business
district
zoning
classification.
So
if
we
change
that
we
have
to
allow
that
development
to
occur
somewhere.
L
So
that's
part
of
the
challenge
in
article
7,
which
is
the
architectural
provisions.
We
talk
about
the
frontage
types
that
buildings
must
adhere
to,
and
there
are
architectural
treatments
and
standards
like
this
canopy
on
this
building.
That
would
be
a
treatment
that
would
that
would
be.
You
know
a
preferred
treatment
as
a
as
it
were
in
terms
of
addressing
a
front
facade
like
this
building,
so
there
are
also
provisions
regarding
terracing.
So
if
somebody
wanted
to
build,
there
are
needed
to
build
the
building
at
base
flood
elevation.
L
They
would
tear
us
back
away
from
the
street
with
plaza
areas,
essentially
that
were
bringing
that
elevation
up
in
in
lifts
of
public
space
to
get
to
the
front
door.
So
there
there's
a
lot
of
detail
that
I
can
provide
in
that
article
7
presentation,
which
will
be
hopefully
on
your
next
city
council
agenda.
L
We
discussed
it
at
a
little
bit
of
length
in
the
planning
commission
agenda
previously,
but
we
broke
that
section
off
of
this
presentation,
because
it's
a
lot
to
talk
about
so
yes,
we
we
this
code,
does
address
some
of
those
concerns.
We
can
certainly
do
a
better
job
of
addressing
it,
and
if
that
is
the
one
of
the
primary
concerns,
we
can
definitely
work
on
towards
that
with.
B
L
So
in
in
section
d
after
we
get
past
each
one
of
the
regulating
districts,
they're
building
types
and
the
building
types
are
what
are
the
rough
equivalent
in
our
current
code
of
a
list
of
permitted
uses?
Essentially
so
within
the
building
types
they're
defined
by
a
series
of
again
tables
and
graphic
images,
you'll
you'll
have
a
summary
of
what
that
building
type
is,
which
is
what
what
are
we
using
this
building
for
lot:
building
standards,
parking
and
access,
and
that's
about
location
of
parking
on
site,
building,
composition
and
site
configuration.
L
So
there
are
a
total
of
17
building
types
in
the
proposed
in
the
current
draft
of
the
code.
There's
a
series
of
residential
building
types
which
are
listed
here
and
then
there
are
mixed
use
and
non-residential
building
types
and
each
one
of
those
has
that
complete
raft
of
standards.
It's
another
three
or
four
pages
of
the
document
for
each
one
of
those
building
types.
L
L
We
are
really
intending
for
the
eligibility
of
this
to
be
very
limited
in
geographic
area
and
it
is
further
limited
by
building
types,
and
then
there
is
a
the
beginnings
of
an
evaluation
system.
A
points-based
system
with
defined
categories
for
these
community
benefits,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
jen
for
a
second.
J
J
First,
we
looked
at
our
current
planning
documents,
staff
reviewed
the
comprehensive
plan
and
found
that
there
were
use
this
as
pretty
much.
This
is
what
we
wanted
to
see
in
this
area.
We
want
to
foster
economic
development,
we
want
to
encourage
infill
development
and
we
want
to
protect
those
historic
resources
that
we
have,
and
there
are
current.
Those
are
the
current
objectives
within
the
future
land
use
element
they
currently
exist
and
we
are
looking
at
them
to
help
promote
this
benefit
program.
J
J
J
So,
as
mitchell
stated
earlier,
we
have
article
five
is
a
planned
development
regulation
in
the
current
plan
it
enables
us
to
deviate
from
the
existing
zoning
and
with
benefits
to
the
community,
and
it
also
allows
for
an
increase
in
building
heights.
These
benefits
can
be
used
to
allow
for
not
only
the
building
heights,
but
also
for
density.
J
Looking
at
section
8.2,
there
are
developer
agreements
which
we
have
used
throughout
the
as
long
as
I
have
been
here
so
pretty
much.
It
allows
for
anything
that
is
legal
and
agreeable
to
both
the
city
and
the
developer.
So
we
can,
they
can
come
in
and
ask
for
things
if
the
city
wants
that
item,
it
can
approve
it
through
the
proper
approval
process.
J
Section
3.17,
the
medical
overlay
district,
was
established
to
encourage
a
cluster
of
medical
uses
in
that
area.
To
help
the
current
hospital
expand
a
little
bit
and
maybe
make
that
area
strictly
for
medical
purposes.
It
provides
allowances
for
the
clustering
of
medical
uses
in
that
area.
It
reduces
setbacks
and
allows
for
larger
buildings,
and
it
also
allows
for
an
increase
in
building
height
staff.
J
Then
looked
at
how
these
development
approvals
were
used
in
the
past
and
then
taking
these
regulations,
we
produced
how
these
regulations
were
used
to
produce
a
completed
development
in
reviewing
the
outcomes
and
what
could
be
approved
under
the
current
conditions.
Staff
identified
that
there
are
things
like
height
and
density
that
really
had
no
limitations.
J
If
the
development
was
approved
by
the
city,
they
could
go
high
without
the
height
could
be
as
high
as
what
whatever
was
approved
during
the
approval
process.
So
if
somebody
had
a
design
that
was
really
well
received
by
the
community,
the
city
could
have
approved
anything
over
the
80
feet.
100
feet
120..
B
J
J
The
proposed
community
pro
benefits
program
was
developed
to
ensure
the
predictable
outcomes
by
linking
the
development
to
some
tangible
community
benefit
on
the
diagram
there
we
have
or
the
image
there.
We
have
public
open
space,
workforce,
housing
and
public
parking,
which
seemed
to
be
three
big
community
benefits
that
people
like
to
see,
and
then
you
weigh
them
out
with
the
density
and
the
height
in
the
program
itself,
so
the
program
will
set
maximum
acceptable,
height
and
density
limits,
and
it
will
define
those
benefits
that
the
community
receives.
J
J
Correct
it
will
limit
and
as
we
go
through
the
next
few
slides,
you
will
see
comparisons
of
what
could
be
built
and
what
was
built
and
how
we
would
have
reduced
sizes
if
it
was
built
under
today's
standards
and
then
just
show
you
some
of
the
other
developments
in
town
and
I'm
going
to
turn
that
back
over
to
mitchell.
To
move
forward
with
that.
L
So
the
community
benefits
program
is
very
tightly
restricted
in
terms
of
eligibility,
so
the
form-based
code
area
is
what
you
you
see
on
the
screen,
so
that's
the
greater
downtown
area.
The
eligibility
for
the
community
benefits
program,
however,
is
further
restricted
by
building
types
and
by
regulating
districts.
So
in
that,
within
that
form
based
code
area,
it
is
only
these
purple
and
blue
colored
areas
where
the
community
benefits
program
is
even
eligible.
L
So
those
are
the
only
possible
locations
within
the
entirety
of
the
city
where
this
program
would
be
would
be
eligible
also
within
that
it
excludes
within
the
core
downtown
area,
this
main
street
overlay
area.
This
main
street
overlay
area
contains
the
highest
density
of
existing
historic,
primarily
commercial,
but
some
also
residential,
converted
to
commercial
structures
within
the
city.
So
the
underlying
entitlements
of
of
the
proposed
downtown
core
are
still
available
there,
but
they
have
no
access
to
the
community
benefits
program,
hopefully
reducing
some
of
that
development
pressure
and
preserving
those
historic
structures
and
streetscapes.
L
So,
even
if
a
developer
wanted
to
try
and
get
the
most
number
of
points
ever
for
their
development,
they
could
not
exceed
these
limits
that
are
defined,
there's
no
path
for
them
other
than
completely
rezoning
the
property
to
something
else
where
they
could
build
a
building,
that's
taller
or
more
dense
than
what
is
proposed
within
the
community
benefits
program.
They
have
no
access
to
the
planned
development.
That's
currently
in
the
code,
it's
this
or
seeking
some
other
legislative
change
by
the
city
council
to
completely
resend
their
property
to
something
else.
L
L
For
building
height,
the
limitations
are
here
as
displayed
on
the
screen
within
the
downtown
core.
It's
only
three
building
types
that
would
be
permissible
to
have
these
additional
building
height
and
that's
mixed
use,
buildings
and
any
type
of
civic
or
institutional
building.
Any
other
building
type
would
have
to
adhere
to
the
base
regulations.
Again,
regardless
of
the
developers
participation
in
the
community
benefits
program,
they
could
not
gain
additional
building
height
for
those
other
building
types
that
would
otherwise
be
permissible.
It's
only
for
these
three.
L
Similarly
for
the
medical
overlay,
district,
the
flex,
commercial
corridor
and
village
center
are
a
little
bit
more
flexible
in
terms
of
the
number
of
building
types
that
are
permitted,
but
again
the
the
limitations
are
actually
lower.
So
it's
only
the
downtown
core
and
the
medical
overlay,
where
the
maximum
of
80
feet
is
permissible
and
that's
approximately
a
six-story
building
again
by
putting
six
stories
in
here
we're
also
limiting
them.
If
somebody
says
I
can
do
seven
stories
in
an
80-foot
building,
no,
you
can't.
L
L
This
is
the
actual
regulatory
building.
Also,
you
would
be
permitted
to
do
the
you
know
anything
up
to
base
flood
elevation
and
then
those
exclusions
on
top
of
this,
and
we
can
go
a
little
bit
more
detail
into
how
that
works.
So
in
terms
of
the
height
comparison
again,
just
reiterating
the
existing
code
compared
to
the
proposed
code
in
the
base
districts,
it's
basically
the
same
across
the
board.
L
In
the
current
regulations,
plan
developments
say
straight
off
the
bat.
If
you
apply
for
plan
development,
the
maximum
building
height
60
feet,
that's
what
it
says
in
the
code
today,
and
there
are
certain
conditions
as
a
list
of
three
that
if
city
council
finds
that
the
development
meets
any
of
those
three
conditions,
city
council
can
approve
whatever
building
height
they
find
acceptable.
There
is
no
maximum
limit
in
the
code.
L
So
the
proposed
community
benefits
program
is
a
points-based
system.
Developers
have
to
provide
certain
set
of
defined
community
benefits
to
be
entitled
to
receive
these
points
and
they
trade
those
points
in
for
additional
allowances
in
residential
density
or
building
height.
So
one
point
in
this
proposed
program
is
equivalent
to
one
additional
dwelling
unit
per
acre
of
land,
developable
land
or
two
additional
feet
in
building
height.
So
one
point
would
be
two
feet
in
building
height
five
points
would
be
ten
foot
in
building
height
and
so
on.
L
Now
these
proposed
categories
have
been
presented
to
city,
council
and
and
the
the
general
discussion
there
was
that
we
needed
to
to
explore
all
of
them,
because
in
the
initial
sort
of
presentation
of
this
program,
the
community
benefits
weren't
well
defined.
We
just
had
some
categories.
We
didn't
have
any
definitions
about
what
was
going
on
what
this
might
mean.
L
L
So
within
that,
allowing
one
point
for
every
one
to
one
and
a
half
percent
of
the
number
of
proposed
residential
units
to
be
restricted
to
very
low
income,
low
income
or
moderate
income
dwellings,
and
so
those
criteria.
Those
break
points
are
really
based
on
the
area
median
income
and
they're
restricted
in
terms
of
they
have
to
meet
a
minimum
number
of
years.
In
the
current
proposal,
a
40-year
minimum
time
guarantee
for
those
units
to
remain
affordable.
So
what
does
this
really
mean
operationally?
B
L
L
L
You
know
its
area
and
found
that
it
would,
under
the
proposed
land
development
regulations
here,
net
a
development
that
was
112
dwelling
units
if
it
met
the
moderate
income
requirement
and
did
7.5
percent
of
their
units
as
affordable.
That
would
be
nine
dwelling
units.
Those
nine
dwelling
units
within
that
112
unit
development
would
be
permitted.
L
L
B
L
F
L
L
So
the
next
potential
community
benefit
that
we've
discussed
is
is
public
open
space,
and
I
don't
have
any
specific
examples
for
this
because
it
gets
kind
of
complicated.
But
the
provisions
here
are
for
15
percent
of
the
development
site
area
with
a
minimum
site
area
of
2000
square
feet.
For
that,
for
that
provision
would
net
a
developer,
10
points
and
reducing
by
that
for
10
or
15
percent
of
the
development
side
area.
L
So
this
could
obviously
be
adjusted.
We
can
make
the
minimums
larger
and
that
would
increase
the
lot
size
where
a
developer
would
have
access
to
this
portion
of
the
program.
So
everything
in
here
is
very
adjustable
at
this
point.
We
can
do
whatever
we
think
nets
us
the
things
that
we
actually
want,
but
the
additional
requirements
on
that
is
that
the
open
space
be
accessible
to
the
general
public
with
an
approved
operation
and
maintenance,
operation,
maintenance
and
development
plans.
So
this
is
not
going
to
be.
You
know
the
patch
of
grass.
L
L
L
Public
parking,
so
public
parking
we're
currently
proposing
that
they
that
they
receive
the
developer
receives
one
point
for
every
10
public
parking
spaces.
These
provide
up
to
20
points.
Public
parking
must
be
open
to
the
general
public,
24
7
and
those
spaces
do
not
count
towards
meeting
their
requirements
in
article
10
for
parking
and
loading.
L
So
the
parking
just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
how
much
this
really
could
cost
a
developer
in
terms
of
the
construction
costs
for
parking
right
now,
general
rule
of
thumb
we're
looking
at
five
to
seven
thousand
dollars
for
the
construction
costs
of
a
sub
of
a
surface
parking
space.
This
is
not
for
the
land
costs
associated
with
it,
just
the
pouring
the
asphalt
making
sure
that
it
drains
etc
for
structured
parking,
so
a
space
in
a
parking
deck
25
to
35
5
000.
These
are
conservative
numbers.
L
L
We
can
build
a
50
space
parking
structure,
sure
that
could
work.
We
just
build
one
level
over
the
existing
part
over
the
parking
lot
that
they
actually
built
and
put
50
cars
up.
There
awesome
well
that
would
be
30
000,
let's
guesstimate
30
000
per
space.
The
estimated
cost
of
that
would
be
1.5
million
dollars.
L
So
the
next
category
is
medical
and
hospital
uses,
and
this
is
restricted
exclusively
to
the
medical
overlay
district
and
at
minimum
of
80
percent
of
the
gross
floor
area
of
the
structure.
Our
development
site
must
be
dedicated
to
medical
uses
in
support
of
the
hospital
or
general
medical
community
and
they're,
of
course,
restricted
additionally
to
compliance
with
all
other
standards
of
the
land,
development
regulations,
impact
fees,
etc.
So
there's
no
they're
not
receiving
anything
extra
other
than
they
can
use.
Those
points
to
you
know
build
potentially
a
larger
building.
L
You
know
to
meet
the
actual
medical
needs,
but
it's
restricted
to
that
medical
uses.
So
it's
really
tightened
up
from
the
current
regulations,
which
are
it
gives
no
minimum
square
footage
for
the
building
for
medical
uses.
So
there's
a
lot
more
flexibility
there
baked
into
the
current
code.
So
this
is
trying
to
be
a
little
bit
stricter
in
ensuring
that
we're
only
giving
this
benefit
away
for
actually
getting
medical
uses
that
are
useful
to
the
community.
L
Which
may
not
be
the
most
appropriate
way
to
do
this?
We
currently
have
complete
streets
policies
and
we
have
the
ones
in
sales
tax
program.
It
may
be
a
better
to
look
at
this
as
sort
of
a
fee
and
lou
kind
of
program
where
they
would
be
making
some
contributions
towards
those
projects
that
we've
already
said.
We
want
to
enhance
walkability
and
bikability
within
the
area
and
and
put
those
into
place,
but
there
are
some
on-site
things
that
may
be
useful
to
to
making
biking
and
walking
better.
L
L
So
again,
just
reiterating
the
building
heights
again,
you
know
we
showed
the
wyvern
earlier
and
I
actually
have
the
wrong
number
there
at
67
feet
in
building
height
under
the
current
land
development
regulations
that
that
building
was
constructed,
it
was
approved
in
07
and
under
the
proposed
form-based
codes.
They
could
build
that
building
again,
it
would
be
it
would
be
more
or
less
a
buy-right
development.
L
F
L
L
Building
heights
are
limited
to
80
feet
so,
if
you're
going
to
build
a
building
under
the
old
code
versus
the
new
code,
a
building
that
exists
like
the
justice
center,
the
justice
center
is
114
feet
feet
in
height,
so
si
the
city
council
at
the
time
that
this
built
that
this
plan
development
was
approved
in
1999,
exercised
their
discretion
and
said
this
works
and
it's
114
foot
tall.
If
the
building
was
if
that
site
was
vacant
today
and
the
county
said,
we
need
to
build
this
justice
center.
L
We'd
say
great:
do
it
under
community
benefits,
we're
going
to
get
a
maximum
of
103
foot
tall,
building
and
you're
going
to
have
to
earn
all
of
those
height
points?
So
we'd
probably
have
a
parking
garage
on
the
eastern
parking
lot,
which
is
one
of
the
proposals
that
was
in
the
last
sales
tax
reauthorization,
so
yeah
it
it
could
have
worked
out
and
with
that,
I'm
going
to
turn
this
over
real
quickly
to
oh
yeah.
Let's
do
questions
sorry.
M
First
of
all,
I
think
you've
done
an
outstanding
job
here.
I've
said
this
before.
I
think
this
is
brilliant.
I
said
it
may
not
be
perfect,
but
there's
an
awful
lot
of
thought.
An
awful
lot
of
input
in
here.
The
the
one
thing
that
I
want
to
make
sure
daniel
sutfin
hears.
Thank
you
is
that
that
under
the
and
go
go
go
back
to
the
slide
with
the
justice
center.
M
Yes,
no,
no,
the
last
the
that
there
this
one.
So
I
think
the
headline
here
needs
to
be
city
council
limits,
building
height
in
downtown
punta
gorda,
not
city
council
raises
height
in
downtown
punta
gorda.
That's
the
headline!
Thank
you,
because,
because
that's
the
fact
and
and
when,
when
they
did
this
building
in
1999,
they
got
nothing
for
it
right.
If
we
were
to
do
that
today,
we
might
have
had
a
parking
garage
or
something
else
that
benefited
the
community.
M
So
I
think
it's
really
important
that
the
community,
everyone
that
the
people
on
next
door
understand
that
that
we
are
limiting
the
ability
of
city
council
to
to
a
set
parameter.
This
is
a
limitation.
This
isn't
going
above
and
beyond,
and
I
think
that's
extraordinarily
important
for
people
to
understand,
because
that's
really
what's
happening
here
and
and
we
will
get
something
for
it.
M
City
manager
and
then,
following
that
with
my
with
my
group
and
I
provided
a
long
list
of
comments
and
suggestions,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
of
these.
Many
of
them
were
just
typos
and
inconsistencies,
and
some
advice,
and
things
like
that,
a
lot
of
which
you
followed
here,
which
I
appreciate
there
are
a
couple
of
things
that
I
just
wanted
to
to
point
out.
First
of
all,
with
regard
to
the
waterfront
properties,
I
think
incorporating
what
you
did.
There
was
really
good.
M
I
think
we
want
to
focus
attention
for
those
properties
that
have
submerged
lands,
leases
we'd
like
them
to
rebuild
those
marinas
that
used
to
be
there,
and
I
think
this
will
help
do
that.
So
I
think
that,
rather
than
build
a
parking
garage,
I'd
rather
have
them
do
the
marina
rather
than
a
parking
garage,
and
I
think
that's
that's
important.
I
think
you
accomplish
that
here
I
I
do
have.
M
I
do
have
a
question
with
regard
to
the
parking,
because
I
asked
this
question
and
I
got
an
answer
and
I'm
not
sure
that
I
got
the
right
answer.
So
if
someone
was
going
to
build
a
parking
structure
so
that
the
community
benefits
would
that
be
on
top
of
the
existing,
so
in
other
words,
if
somebody
has
parking
spaces
already
and
it's
above
the
existing
and
their
existing
is
above
code
are,
are
we
going
to
require
them
to
earn
the
community
benefits
to
go
above
existing
or
above
what
the
code
minimum
is.
L
M
M
M
A
A
But
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
lose
that
and
then
my
third
thing
is
a
question:
how
do
we
guarantee
that
these
things
are
going
to
get
done?
Do
they
have
to
be
done
before
the
project
breaks
ground?
Do
they
have
to
be
like?
We
have
to
have
the
funding
in
an
escrow
account,
or
how
do
you
do
that.
L
That
certification
process
requires
us
pledge
to
a
code
of
ethics
that
code
of
ethics.
Three
key
points
is
service
to
the
public
and
that's
the
first.
One
first
principle
is
that
we
have
to
serve
the
public.
If
we're
not
serving
the
public,
we
could
lose
that
certification
and
have
huge
impacts
on
our
career.
L
Our
second
is
that
we
have
a
service
to
our
employer,
and
in
this
case
it
is
the
local
government.
Again,
you
represent
the
people.
So
that's
a
double.
We
have
a
service
to
the
public
and
the
third
is
we
have
a
service
to
our
client.
In
our
cases,
municipal
employees,
our
client
is
you,
the
city.
We
don't
work
for
developers,
we
don't
work
for
the
people
that
come
in
and
drop.
Permit
applications
work
for
you,
so
we
are
always
thinking
about
the
public
in
everything
that
we
do
as
professionals.
L
So
now
I
answer
your
question
in
terms
of
these.
There
are
they're
going
to
be
specific
to
each
category,
so
in
terms
of
parking
it
would
have
to
be
their
development
plan.
Their
actual
development
plan
would
have
to
show
how
they're
doing
this
in
terms
of
the
public
accessibility
of
that
parking
there
would
have
to
be.
Some
sort
of
written
agreement
probably
needs
to
be
approved
by
council
as
the
as
the
governmental
body
to
say.
Yes,
we
agree
that
your
plan
for
allowing
these
parking
spaces
to
be
public
is
meets.
L
So
that's
really
what
each
one
of
these
programs
would
would
entail.
It'll
be
crafted
differently
for
each
one.
Depending
on
how
we
go,
I
can
say
that
anything
that
involves
housing
and
those
leases
are
probably
the
most
complex
and
would
require
the
most
legal
review
to
ensure
that
those
agreements
were
ironclad
and
could
not
be
deviated
from
by
that
property
owner
developer
or
any
future
property.
L
L
However,
in
the
past
I
know
that
variances
have
been
used
for
new
development
and
have
been
found
by
city
councils
of
the
past
to
be
acceptable,
so
that
variance
process
could
always
be
applied
for
we,
as
staff
always
recommend
against
those,
because
that's
our
job
because
it
doesn't
meet
the
criteria,
is
ultimately
a
legislative
approval
process
at
that
point.
But
it
is
a
high
bar
and.
L
F
For
your
third
question,
when
we
have,
for
example,
contractors
do
business
for
the
city.
In
many
cases
people
require
performance
bonds.
So
if
you
have
a
parking
structure,
that's
going
to
cost
you
a
million
five
and
you
have
to
put
up
a
performance
bond
before
you
get
your
permits
to
start
your
construction.
F
If
you
don't
complete
that,
then,
if
the
city
tries
to
cash,
a
performance
bond
developers,
contractors
don't
want
that
to
happen,
because
then
that
puts
them
in
a
negative
light
and
they
start
their
calls
start
going
up
or
they
can't
be
bonded
for
other
jobs.
So
the
performance
bond
rarely
gets
cashed
in
and
that
typically
ensures
that
the
requirements
of
the
contract
are
met.
Well,.
A
One
of
my
one
of
my
team
asked
what's
to
prohibit
somebody
from
saying
they're
going
to
do
this.
Getting
the
points
starting
to
build
the
building.
That's
going
to
be
the
extra,
however
many
feet
and
then
oh
well,
I
can't
I
can't
do
that
because
you
know
fish
and
wildlife
didn't
give
me
the
space
or
whatever
and
whatever
there's
we
have
to
make
sure.
H
Yes
again,
thank
you
so
much
to
staff
and
especially
joan
and
greg
in
my
meeting
yesterday.
They
literally
had
a
notepad
and
were
drawing
me
pretty
pictures,
so
we
could
get
a
concept
of
all
this,
so
I
appreciate
your
patience
on
that
same
thing.
A
couple
things
that
were
said
mentioned
to
me
in
my
group
were
taken
into
consideration.
Again
with
you
know
there
could
be
demolitions
of
buildings
are
existing.
H
H
That
is
going
to
preclude
then
having
that
box.
Look
okay,
so
I'm
on
the
fence
with
the
zero
setbacks
right
now.
I
guess
until
I
see
the
next
piece
of
the
pie.
Thank
you,
mr
levin.
That
was
my
question
with
variances
and
I
didn't
know
if
we
could
just
simply
put
in
there
no
variances,
it
is
what
it
is
kind
of
thing.
H
Another
thing
that
we
had
kind
of
brought
up
was
that
the
community
benefits,
although
I
will
say
that
I
am
still
a
little
bit
on
the
fence
with
just
because
again,
I
don't
want
it
to
be
seen
as
a
way
to
buy
your
way
to
height
or
whatnot
so
which
department,
I
know
you.
You
actually
touched
on
a
little
bit,
so
thank
you
so
which
department
would
approve
the
community
benefit,
that
someone
picks
and
then
follows
it
through
and
oversees
it.
And
then
you
know.
L
L
The
only
authority
on
that
so
city
council
would
have
to
approve
that
agreement.
Piece
of
it.
You
wouldn't
be
approving.
You
know
whether
they
did
this
kind
of
committee
benefit
or
that
kind
of
community
benefit.
It's
just
evaluating
whether
that
agreement
is
acceptable
as
a
community
benefit.
Yes,.
H
And
then
the
only
other
thing
I
have
is
that
when
we
were
talking
about
in
our
meeting
and
with
my
group
about
community
benefits-
and
you
would
even
said
it
too,
what
you
have
is
just
suggestions.
You
know
we
could
tweak
this.
I
mean,
don't
get
me
wrong,
you
put
a
lot
of
effort
into
it.
I
don't
want
to.
You
know
necessarily
change
everything,
but
to
me
what
I
hear
a
lot
of
which
I
agree
with
is
parking
parking
parking.
You
know
we
essentially
could
get
rid
of
every
community
benefit
and
just
put
parking.
H
That's
it.
Your
only
choice
is
parking
or
I'd
even
suggested.
You
know
putting
something
that
was
on
a
tier
two
one
percent
sales
tax
that
hadn't
been
funded.
So
basically
we
know,
as
a
city
we're
having
a
project
funded
that
we
were
going
to
do
in
the
future
anyway,
and
of
course,
that's
going
to
you
know
give
you
more
work
to
do,
but
you
know
just
throwing
those
things
out
there.
As
far
as
you
know,
if,
if
that
is,
you
know
one
of
our
concerns,
so
yes.
F
H
I'll
say
one
more
thing
and
then
I'll
I'll
leave
the
floor,
but
just
to
kind
of
go
with
mark.
One
thing
I
learned
yesterday,
of
course,
being
new
on
council
is
the
fact
that,
as
it
stands
right
now,
you
know
developer
could
come
in
come
to
council
and
say
I
want
to
build
a
you
know,
130
foot
building,
and
it
would
be
up
to
council
to
approve
that,
so
we
are
restricting.
H
B
E
Wanted
to
thank
you
all
I
mean
you've
done
an
extraordinary
job.
I
mean
you
really
this
embodiment
of
best
practices
in
urban
design,
and
I
just
feel
this
is
a
very
good
platform
for
us
to
be
able
to
go
to
the
next
step
for
architecture
and
that's
really
doing
form
based
rather
than
use
space
code.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
and
command
you.
I
think
it's
a
really
good
job.
B
B
I
have
a
huge
problem,
a
huge
problem
and
I
will
never
support
community
benefits
to
at
height.
In
my
opinion,
that's
kind
of
an
extortion
on
the
part
of
a
developer
who
is
coming
to
the
city
and
saying
well
I'll,
give
you
something,
but
I
want
to
add
extra
height
to
my
building
and
I'm
sorry.
I
think
that
that's
that's
unethical.
In
my
opinion,
I
don't
think
we
want
to
see
a
80-foot
building
in
the
city
center
downtown
just
because
somebody
bought
20
feet
of
height
and
gave
us
something.
I
don't
think
that's.
B
I
just
don't
think
that's
the
right
way
to
do
business,
and
I
would
respectfully
ask
that
we
remove
additional
building
height
from
the
equation
altogether,
because
I
think
it's
going
to
cause
a
lot
more
problems
than
not
a
huge
conversation
that
had
happened
with.
My
group
yesterday
was
with
regard
to
parking
for
all
development
downtown.
B
We
definitely
have
a
problem.
We
know
we're
going
to
talk
about
that
in
another
meeting,
but
I
wanted
on
the
record
that
it
is
a
huge
problem
that
we
currently
are
allowing
people
to
build
new
properties
in
the
historic
district,
specifically
with
no
off-street
parking.
We've
found
that
that's
a
huge
problem
and
I'm
looking
at
the
president
of
the
hoa
right
here.
B
B
There
was
also
a
statement
made
in
the
presentation
about
staff
reviewing
some
of
these
proposals.
I
think
it's
a
hundred
percent.
It's
got
to
come
to
city
council,
it
should
not
be
a
staff
decision,
it
should
be
a
city
council
decision.
We
are
the
elected
body
that
the
people
represent
elected
to
represent
them,
and
I
adamantly
oppose
having
it
controlled
by
staff
decisions
and
no
disrespect
to
the
staff.
But
we
are
the
people
that
are
elected
to
represent
the
residents
of
the
city
and
all
these
decisions
need
to
come
back
to
city
council.
B
How
how
the
community
benefits
would
be
implemented,
and
I
think
I
think
we
have
to
have
a
very
clearly
defined
list
of
what
is
going
to
be
included
in
community
benefits.
I
adamantly
adamantly
oppose
allowing
a
developer
to
add
height
to
their
building
by
giving
us
something.
There's
got
to
be
a
better
way
if
they
want
to
add
density,
then
then
so
be
it.
B
We
have
a
proposed
development
on
the
table
right
now
that
they're
talking
about
building
smaller
units
so
that
they
can
increase
their
density,
it
doesn't
mean
they
have
to
build
a
higher
building.
Because
of
that,
so
I
think
there's
other
ways
that
some
of
this
stuff
can
be
done,
and
I
really
would
like
to
have
us
do
a
little
more
work
on
all
of
that.
B
You
know
we
want
to
have
people-centric
public
space
downtown,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
these
developments
that
are
coming
in
are
cognizant
of
that,
but
we
also
have
to
make
sure
that
the
buildings
being
built
are
in
sync
with
what
else
is
in
our
city
center
downtown?
We
don't
want
to
ruin
the
flavor
of
the
downtown
community
and
you
can't
put
and
again
we
keep
going
back
to
the
story
thing
which
the
hair
on
the
back
of
my
neck
stands
up
every
time.
B
I
see
the
word
stories,
but
we
can't
keep
going
back
to
the
stories
thing.
We
have
to
have
buildings
that
size-wise
fit
into
the
community
that
that
surrounds
it,
and
you
know
I
look
at
some
of
these
things
and
the
the
renderings
from
dover
coal
and
they
just
plunked
a
bunch
of
buildings
into
green
space
in
all
of
their
rendering
pictures
that
they
put
in
the
master
plan.
That's
not
what
we
want
to
see
in
our
city
center
downtown,
so
city
center
is
the
most
crucial
of
all
of
this.
B
B
If
we're
wanting
to
have
property
owners
such
as
the
sheraton
or
the
punta
gorda
waterfront
suites
build
their
marina
back.
There
needs
to
be
a
special
classification
for
those
properties
so
that
they
have
some
rules
that
govern
what
they're
doing
and
that
and
that
it's
all
in
sync,
with
what
our
our
future
needs
and
wants
are.
We
definitely
need
more
dock
space,
as
is
evidenced
by
the
lashley
park.
Marina
situation
and
fisherman's
village
has
got
a
two-year.
Wait
list
is
what
I'm
being
told.
B
B
L
H
Because
I
know
personally
again,
as
I
said
before,
that
staggered
look
or
wedding
cake
look,
however,
you
want
to
put
it
where,
if
you're
gonna
go
with
the
zero
setback,
but
not
having
a
cavern
look
with
a
tall
building,
that
is
probably
going
to
be
more
definitive
on
whether
I'm
going
to
be
okay
with
you
know
the
height
of
the
building
or
whatnot,
I'm
a
visual.
I
need
to
see
that
aesthetic
look
of
how
that's
going
to
impact
the
buildings
that
we
have
already
you
know
so.
B
The
other
thing
is
too,
with
regard
to
setbacks,
what
we
have
a
definite
problem
with
zero
setbacks
in
our
existing
infrastructure
right
now
downtown.
You
know,
I
don't
know
for
those
who've
been
on
council
for
a
while.
You
may
remember,
commissioner,
constance,
coming
to
council
more
than
one
time
and
asking
for
our
consideration
to
cut
back
the
corner
of
the
building
at
marion
and
nesbit,
because
there's
no
there's
no
line
of
sight
for
traffic
coming
westbound
on
marion,
what
impossible
to
do
that
there's
already
a
building
in
existence
and
it's
occupied.
B
So
unfortunately,
the
the
zero
lot
line
has
caused
a
problem
and
the
same
thing
with
the
corner
of
the
wyvern
hotel
at
retta
and
41
northbound,
there's
a
very,
very
small
window
of
line
of
sight
as
you
approach
that
intersection,
if
you're
going
south
excuse
me
west
on
retta,
so
you
know
that
that's
something
we
have
to
think
about
too
going
forward
with
future
building.
So
I
you
know,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
little
things
that
still
have
to
be
tweaked.
I
I
mean
I
just
the
real
issue
for
me
right
now.
B
Most
important
is
that
I
don't
want
to
see
a
hundred
foot
building
in
our
city
center
period.
I
will
never
support
that,
and
anybody
buying
their
way
to
100
feet
is
not
okay
in
my
book,
so
I
want
to
be
on
the
record
about
that
all
right,
any
other
discussion
about
this
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
F
So,
just
to
put
a
fine
point
on
that
next
time,
when
we
get
it
to
section
seven
we'll
talk
about
the
architectural
detail,
how
that
impacts
this,
but
then
we
have
to
get
to
a
point
where
we
know
these
are
the
community
benefits.
This
is
the
ultimate
height
anything
that
you
do
or
do
not
want
to
see,
so
that
we
can
move
forward
with
the
next
draft
and
get
this
to
some
form
where
we
get
to
a
conclusion
within
a
reasonable
period
of
time.
A
F
M
I
don't
know
how
we
do
that
because
I
think
there's
a
very
schism
here.
I
am
fine
with
this,
as
it
is
exactly
as
presented.
I
would
be
a
yes
vote,
so
me
as
well.
I
I
I
don't
believe
I
I
I
think
when
we
see
the
architectural
and
the
step
backs
and
everything
else
I'm.
I
think
I
think
this
is
personally
the
right
way
to
go.
M
H
H
Well
that,
but
I'm
just
saying,
but
you
know,
essentially,
though
you
know
you
don't
have
to
do
benefits
you
could
just
do
it.
Code
is
code
and
that's
you
know
there
are
other
avenues.
I
guess
is
what
I'm
saying
and
for
me
personally.
I
need
to
see
that
next
piece
of
the
pie
to
really
make
a
definitive
decision
on
you
know
where
I
would
stand
with
some
of
the
stuff
so
draha
and.
E
Again,
we
made
a
decision
to
do
form-based
codes,
which
is
architecture,
which
means
we
have
to
have
this
variability.
Otherwise
we
can't
get
there.
I
mean
I
actually
took
several
trips
to
savannah
this
year,
just
for
the
purpose
of
seeing
this
in
play,
and
it
is
foreign
based
versus
use
case.
But
we
have
this
document
right
here,
which
we
did
the
economic
analysis.
The
the
choice
is
either
we
allow
us
to
fit
best
practices
in
urban
design
or
we
will
be
raising
taxes
on
our
residents.
D
Good
afternoon,
karen
smith
city
clerk
for
the
record
just
a
couple
of
board
things,
we
have
some
vacancies.
We
still
have
two
vacancies
on
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
for
alternates
two
on
the
code
enforcement
board
for
alternates,
and
we
now
have
one
vacancy
on
the
utility
advisory
board
under
nominations
for
the
puna
gorda
housing
authority.
D
B
D
B
F
F
A
lot
of
work's
been
going
into
upkeep
and
improving
things
that
we
have,
and
by
that
I
mean
specifically
bayfront
center.
If
you've
seen
when
you
go
by,
that's
got
a
nice
new
coat
of
paint.
It
matches
the
surrounding
area.
It's
very
nice.
We've
got
new
plantings.
The
whole
way
around
it.
Staff
did
a
lot
of
work
on
that,
as
well
as
our
volunteer
groups.
That
did
a
lot
of
work
on
that
and
we
certainly
appreciate
the
work
that
has
occurred.
F
We
have,
for
example,
american
bloom.
That's
coming
the
end
of
the
month
and
they're
going
to
be
evaluating
the
city
to
see
where
we
stand
comparatively
and
present
awards
for
those
type
things,
so
we're
hoping
that
we
can
certainly
score
high
and
appreciate
all
the
work.
That's
been
done
with
that
with
team
ponegorda
and
the
other
groups
that
have
worked
on
these
things
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
be
improving
things
and
hopefully,
you'll
see
improvements
around
the
city
as
we
continue
to
move
forward
with
our
new
schedules.
K
To
best
of
my
knowledge,
we
have
not
yet
been
served
on
that,
but
I
have
provided
the
copy
that
I
received
to
our
risk
manager,
who
has
already
forwarded
on
to
our
insurance
carrier,
who
is
going
to
defend
the
city
if,
in
fact,
the
city
is
sued
on
that?
In
that
case,
the
gist
of
the
complaint,
as
I
quickly
gleaned
from
the
review,
is
challenging
our
sign
code
with
respect
to
the
definitions
and
the
prohibition
of
obscenity
fighting
words
and
indecent
language,
as
those
terms
have
been
defined
by
the
u.s
supreme
court.
K
K
B
B
Thank
you,
city
clerk,
anything
additional,
okay
under
mayor
comments.
I
don't
really
have
much
except
I
did.
I
did
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
the
newcomers
club
last
night
and
very,
very
energetic
group
of
folks,
and
there
were
a
lot
of
questions
at
the
end.
I
think
I
probably
spent
more
time
doing
q
a
than
I
did
giving
the
presentation.
B
I
gave
an
abbreviated
state
of
the
city,
kind
of
an
address
for
them
and
I'll
be
doing
rotary
tomorrow.
So
it's
been
it's
a
fun
thing
to
get
to
do
because
you
get
to
talk
and
brag
about
the
city
and
how
wonderful
everything
is
in
their
city.
But
you
know
it's
it's
one
of
those
things
you
do.
Sometimes
you
don't
expect
the
questions
you
get,
but
it's
kind
of
fun.
Because
then
you
go
oh
yeah.
B
B
It
was
a
fun
evening
and-
and
the
only
other
thing
is
I
mentioned
before-
that
if
you
are
interested
in
going
to
the
southwest
florida
league
of
cities
meetings
with
me,
I
would
tell
you
the
dates
coming
up
on
may
19th
is
the
next
one
it's
going
to
be
down
at
labelle
brewing
in
lebel,
so
if
anyone
I'll
be
sending
an
email
about
it,
so
you
can
respond
to
the
email
and
let
me
know
if
you
would
like
to
go
and
that's
all
I
have
so
council
member
comments.
Joha
just.
E
Want
to
let
people
know
the
cultural
heritage
center
is
sponsoring
with
with
fishman's
village
that
they
have
celtic
music.
It's
going
to
be
may
14th,
so
we'll
prepare
for
that.
It's
going
to
be
like
some
very
big,
internationally
known
groups,
and
so
it's
going
to
be
a
very
good
day
for
the
community.
B
B
A
I
need
help
from
the
council,
I
volunteered
to
be
on
the
community
action
agency,
advisory
board
and
the
first
meeting
they
had.
I
had
a
conflict
and
now
the
second
meeting
they
have,
they
have
a
conflict
and
there
will
only
be
one
more
meeting
before
I
go
off
council.
So
I'm
thinking
that
perhaps
we
need
to
find
somebody
else
to
go
to
that,
so
that
there's
some
continuity
going
forward.