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From YouTube: Regular City Council Meeting - May 4, 2022
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Regular City Council Meeting - May 4, 2022
B
A
Good
morning,
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
may
4th
2022
city
council
meeting,
let
the
record
reflect
that
all
city,
council,
members
and
city
officials
are
present
or
in
the
building.
If
you
have
a
mobile
device
with
you
today,
please
make
sure
it
is
silenced.
As
we
do
record
these
meetings
and
before
we
begin
I'm
going
to
read
some
housekeeping
notes.
Just
for
general
information,
there
is
a
code
of
conduct
in
the
council
chambers.
It
is
posted
on
the
wall.
A
So
please
make
yourself
familiar
with
that
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
address
the
council
when
we
get
to
citizen
comments
should
use
the
guest
podium
at
the
entrance
door,
speak
directly
into
the
microphone
and
begin
by
stating
your
name
for
the
record.
Each
person
will
have
three
minutes
to
speak
and
sharing
minutes
is
not
permitted.
A
Speakers
are
to
direct
all
comments
to
city
council,
not
the
audience
or
any
one.
Individual
council
member
discussion
between
speakers
and
members
of
the
audience
is
not
permitted
when
there
are
many
individuals
who
wish
to
speak
on
the
same
subject.
Speakers
should
try
not
to
reiterate
lengthy
comments
made
by
others
to
ensure
an
effective
and
efficient
meeting.
This
ensures
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
speak
audience
and
speakers
will
be
courteous
in
their
language
and
presentation,
no
applause
booing
or
anything
of
similar
to
that
before,
during
or
after
each
speaker.
A
If
you
have
supporting
documents
you'd
like
displayed
during
your
presentation,
they
must
be
provided
to
the
city
clerk
and
these
documents
will
become
part
of
the
permanent
record.
The
citizens
comments
portion
of
the
meeting
is
not
intended
to
be
a
question
and
answer
session.
Council
members
will
listen
to
what
you
have
to
say.
Only
council
members
should
refrain
from
answering
impromptu
questions
or
debating
issues
with
members
of
the
public.
A
C
Father
we
come
before
you
today
and
we
humble
ourselves
and
pray
for
the
people
in
ukraine
that
you
might
be
with
them
as
they
fight
for
freedom
as
they
fight
for
their
lives.
Father.
It
is
a
david
and
goliath
situation,
father
we
pray
for
peace
and
their
freedom
father.
As
we
look
around
us
today,
we
see
the
safety
we
experience
here
in
puerto
gorda,
lord,
we
pray
for
each
family
that
is
here
today.
C
F
Before
you
sit
I'd
like
to
call
a
moment
of
silence
for
colonel
robert
o,
riggs
u.s
marine
retired
sitting
fleet
captain
of
the
isles
yacht
club,
who,
despite
the
valiant
efforts
of
the
yacht
club
staff,
punta
gorda,
police,
fire
and
emts,
passed
away
in
the
yacht
club
basin
on
the
morning
of
the
last
city
council
meeting
bob
was
a
true
patriot
who
dedicated
his
life
to
service
and
a
dear
friend.
He
will
be
missed.
A
Thank
you
mark
with
regard
to
councilmember
kuharski's
information
just
shared.
We
may
have
to
change
some
of
the
agenda
items
on
the
today's
agenda
because
he
has
to
leave
the
meeting
early
to
go
to
the
service
mark.
Is
there
anything
that
you
would
like
moved
up
on
the
agenda
that
may
help
you
I'll.
A
B
Unparalleled
impact
during
the
coven
19
pandemic
and
their
contributions
to
health
care
and
an
open
invitation
to
hashtag
thank
a
nurse
for
enriching
our
lives
and
the
world
we
live
in
now.
Therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
puna
gorda
florida
does
hereby
proclaim
the
month
of
may
2022,
as
nurses
month
passed
and
duly
adopted
a
regular
session.
This
fourth
day
of
may
2022
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
signed
lynn,
r,
matthews,
mayor
and
accepting
will
be
dr
adams.
A
Next,
we
have
a
proclamation
for
tomorrow's
national
day
of
prayer
and
before
I
read
this,
the
national
day
of
prayer
ceremony
will
take
place
tomorrow
morning
at
11
a.m.
On
the
entrance
to
the
city
hall,
annex
on
harvey
street
next
door
for
those
council
members
who
also
are
going
to
the
tourism
lunch-
and
I
think
most
of
us
are,
they
did
move
the
I
got.
A
I
had
pastor
carlson
move
up
the
national
day
of
prayer
to
11
o'clock
only
to
find
out
the
very
next
day
the
tourism
lunch
is
also
now
at
11
o'clock.
So,
but
I
spoke
to,
I
spoke
to
the
gentleman
with
the
tourism
bureau
and
he
said
the
first
half
hour
is
typically
just
mingling
around.
So
the
fact
that
we
normally
attend
the
national
day
of
prayer
and
it
lasts
usually
40
45
minutes.
A
We
shouldn't
have
too
big
of
a
problem
doing
both
events.
So
I
hope
you
will
all
be
there
for
the
national
day
of
prayer,
okay,
so
the
proclamation
from
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida,
whereas
prayer
is
regarded
by
millions
as
the
most
important
utterance
of
mankind
for
its
benefit
and
whereas
prayer
has
aided
us
in
times
where
support
and
guidance
were
needed
and
whereas
the
national
day
of
prayer
is
a
time
set
aside
for
americans
to
pray
and
reaffirm
the
spiritual
principles
upon
which
our
nation
was
founded.
A
Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
does
hereby
proclaim,
may
5
2022
as
national
day
of
prayer
and
invites
all
citizens
to
observe
this
day
in
ways
appropriate
to
its
importance
and
significance,
pass
and
duly
adopted
in
regular
session.
This
fourth
day
of
may
2022
signed
leonard
matthews
mayor
and
accepting
is
pastor.
Carlson.
C
Thank
you,
mayor,
matthews
and
city
council,
for
this
proclamation
and
and
just
for
the
support
that
you
have
always
shown
for
the
national
day
of
prayer.
Through
the
years
I've
been
working
on
it
for
16
years
here
in
ponte
gorda
and
have
always
felt
very,
very
supportive
by
the
city,
and
you
know,
prayer
is
something
that
we
have
a
lot
of
quotes
about
it
like
you,
don't
find
a
an
atheist
in
a
foxhole
folks,
we're
living
in
a
foxhole
today
aren't
we.
C
A
Okay,
at
this
time,
we
will
open
up
the
floor
for
citizen
comments.
If
there's
anyone
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
address
counsel
on
any
issue.
Please
come
to
the
podium
state,
your
name
for
the
record,
and
you
will
have
three
minutes
and
if
you're
going
to
speak,
please
stand
and
get
in
line.
So
we
keep
the
meeting
moving.
C
E
Good
morning,
kelly
gaylord
representing
the
pentagon,
historic
mural
society,
the
society
was
established
27
years
ago
with
the
mission
to
present
our
local
history
through
the
art
of
public
murals.
Today
we
have
31
murals
throughout
the
city
and
have
established
punta
gorda
as
a
major
mural
city,
attracting
visitors
and
tourists
in
the
area.
In
order
to
have
murals,
you
need
buildings
that
have
walls
suitable
for
murals.
E
Our
current
ldrs
do
not
support
blank
walls
for
new
construction
requiring
windows
and
doors
every
16
feet.
Any
blank
walls
must
be
treated
with
architectural
features
such
as
arcades
or
trellises,
etc.
Over
the
years,
the
society
has
discussed
this
with
urban
design,
with
the
goal
of
addressing
it
in
the
new
ldrs.
In
reviewing
the
proposed
article
7
architectural
provisions
on
the
agenda
today,
it
appears
we
still
have
the
same
issue,
for
example
in
the
building
type
standards.
The
buildings
with
shop
fronts
require
70
percent
windows
and
doors
for
ground
floor
40
percent
for
upper
stories.
E
Even
civic
buildings,
like
schools,
would
allow
for
less
than
25
feet
or
30
percent
of
the
total
length
of
a
street
facade.
Whichever
is
less
to
be
blank
and
the
blank
walls
must
be
treated
with
architectural
features,
it's
similar
for
the
highway
commercial
and
interchange,
commercial
overlay
district
buildings
as
well.
So,
as
you
can
see,
we
have
a
concern
if
left
this
way
as
our
older
buildings
are
replaced
with
newer
ones,
the
murals
will
gradually
disappear
one
at
a
time
from
our
city.
E
Saying-
and
I
quote:
travelers
are
looking
for
towns
with
a
wide
range
of
art,
galleries,
museums,
landmarks,
historic
sites
etc,
and
they
added
puna
gorda
already
caters
to
those
visitors
with
places
like
the
history
park
and
activities
like
the
historic
mural
walking
tours
they
go
on
to
say,
art
and
culture
not
only
reflects
the
spirit
and
soul
of
a
place
facilitating
a
sense
of
belonging,
but
they
also
are
an
essential
economic
asset
attracting
visitors
and
businesses
alike.
They
included
the
murals
as
one
of
our
key
cultural
offerings.
E
We
spoke
to
dover
call
at
the
beginning
during
the
planning
stage
and
made
them
aware
of
this
concern
thought
it
would
be
addressed
with
the
new
ldrs.
It
is
not.
We
also
spoke
at
the
planning
commission
meeting
in
february
again
reiterating
our
concern
on
requesting
changes.
Unfortunately,
no
changes
were
made.
We
now
ask
you
to
consider
modifications
that
will
at
a
minimum,
allow
blank
walls
for
murals
and
hopefully
encourage
them
as
well
as
new
buildings
are
being
designed.
We
believe
the
mural
program
plays
an
important
role
in
our
city's
heritage
tourism.
E
C
The
result
of
that
was
the
rewrite
of
the
master
plan.
That's
led
to
what
three
four
years
now
progression
through
all
of
what
we've
gone
to
and
come
and
finally,
coming
to
the
the
end
of
it.
I
think
people
forgot
what
that
group
of
at
the
at
the
town
hall
said
they
said
no,
they
said.
No,
we
don't
want
high
buildings
here,
so
we
moved
into
the
charit
process.
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
participated.
I
like
to
think
that
all
of
you
did
or
should
have.
C
If
you
were
resident
at
the
time,
I'd
be
disappointed.
If
you
didn't
participate
in
that
and
once
again,
what
was
the
outcome
of
the
charettes?
Oh
yeah,
maybe
we'd
like
more
bicycles,
but
you
know
what
we
don't
want
high
buildings.
The
answer
was:
no,
we
don't
want
high
buildings,
so
here
we
are
coming
down
to
the
end
of
this
and
where
are
we
going
with
it?
What
about
the
word?
No,
don't
you
understand,
that's
what
my
question
is
for
you
today.
Thank
you.
E
E
E
We,
I
think
the
citizens
embraced
that
process
somewhere
along
the
line.
It
shifted
from
what
citizens
want
to
what
developers
want,
and
I
think,
as
citizens
were
perplexed
by
that,
I
heard
several
of
you
say
throughout
the
process
when
the
report
came
out
from
dover
and
call
that
you
thought
they
didn't
listen
to
us.
Well,
I've
read
all
the
reports
and
they
didn't
listen
to
us.
E
E
E
E
Look,
we
all
know
what's
going
on
in
florida,
this
is
going
to
be
developed.
I
have
no
doubt
about
that.
It's
just
a
matter
of
what
is
it
going
to
look
like
and
what
is
it
going
to
do
to
our
town,
because
I
don't
talk
to
anybody
that
wants
a
town
of
which
stover
and
coal
is
proposing
for
us.
So
I'm
just
asking
you
please
remember
who
you
serve
you're,
not
here
to
serve
the
developers.
I
know
you
have
to
have
a
balance.
E
We
get
that
as
citizens,
but
don't
change
the
nature
of
our
town
and
on
perplex.
Why?
We
still
are
moving
forward
on
that.
Isn't
there
some
vote?
Isn't
there
some
process
to
decide
whether
we
embrace
that
or
not
because
I've
just
seen
it
move
forward
like
a
train
that
doesn't
stop,
but
it's
not
what
the
citizens
want.
C
C
This
building
was
so
ugly
that
if
there
was
a
national
ugly
building
contest,
it
would
have
a
chance
to
win.
Oh
did
I
mention
it
was
entirely
inconsistent
with
the
downtown.
Fortunately,
hurricane
charlie
solved
this
problem
and
the
sun
lost
center
now
stands
in
its
place.
But
how
did
this
eyesore
get
approved?
And
could
it
happen
again?
I
don't
know
how
it
was
approved,
but
unfortunately,
the
answer
to
reoccurrence
is
it
could
happen
again.
C
The
current
plan
development
process
has
loose
requirement
and
eventually
funnels
into
this
chamber,
where
a
simple
majority
vote
determines
approval
or
not.
I
doubt
this
council
would
let
something
go
forward
as
controversial
as
that
building
was,
but
elections
cause
council
members
to
change
over
at
some
point
in
the
future.
Each
of
you
will
be
watching
your
replacement.
Make
decisions
from
the
cheap
seats
out
here.
Will
those
will
those
that
follow
stand
in
the
breaches?
The
same
way
you
did,
it
is
troublesome
to
me.
The
number
of
council
seats
recently
filled
by
candidates
running
unopposed.
C
This
is
not
good
for
government
and
creates
an
opportunity
for
citizens
seeking
election
with
motives
that
are
not
in
the
public
interest.
The
ldrs,
along
with
a
comprehensive
plan,
provide
a
framework
and
a
process
for
development
of
our
city.
They
also
give
the
citizens
a
mechanic,
a
mechanism
to
hold
future
councils
accountable.
C
Citizens
would
have
the
right
to
use
the
ldrs
to
force
future
leaders
to
follow
the
regulations.
The
draft
ldrs
are
not
perfect,
but
there
exists
a
solid
framework
there
to
work
from
collaboration
with
staff
will
only
improve
the
document
which
will
be
subject
to
revisions
as
circumstances
in
the
future
warrant.
I
urge
you
to
leave
a
legacy
for
this
council
and
move
forward
with
the
goal
of
adopting
the
ldrs.
C
C
C
C
We've
done
nothing
to
address
the
situation
as
our
community
has
grown,
and
everyone
knows
that
all
lots
are
being
filled
in.
We
have
more
and
more
people
coming
to
events.
Imagine
in
five
years,
when
we
have
a
halloween
fest
for
the
children
and
we
have
a
thousand
more
homes
in
our
own
community,
let
alone
the
other
counties.
C
There
will
be
no
place
for
people
to
park.
A
church
parking
lot
won't
be
large
enough,
it'll
be
about
a
quarter
the
size
that
will
be
needed.
So
let's
do
a
little
better
planning
on
how
we're
going
to
utilize
the
small
space
we
have
without
ruining
the
appeal
of
our
town.
People
come
here,
but
they
will
drive
by
if
there's
no
place
to
park,
we're
all
lazy.
C
C
C
Do
visual
design
for
certain
patriotic
and
pageantry
projects
and
so
forth
and
have
adjudicated
those
for
years.
So
I
have
an
eye
for
that
and
I
thought
about
it.
So
this
week
I
wrote
a
paper
which
I
sent
to
each
of
the
council
members
and
some
of
the
other
officials,
and
I
have
a
few
extra
copies
here.
People
want
to
see
that
and
the
key
that
I
see
right
now,
where
we're
determining
the
ldrs
is
to
address
two
things.
C
However,
we
have
an
advantage
here
with
our
setback
rules
under
the
ldrs
to
set
how
far
back
those
buildings
are
and
creating
an
avenue
for
use,
people
who
are
from
the
midwest.
That's
the
grand
avenue
you
had
at
home.
Okay
for
you,
people
from
new
york,
that's
the
central
park
and
people
down
here.
We
want
a
place
that
was
laid
back
and
that
we
enjoy,
because
we
have
a
little
more
casual
lifestyle.
C
So
I
hope
that
you'll
consider
this
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
in
the
heights
situation
is
because
I
did
bombings
and
arsons
of
restaurants
for
seven
years.
Okay,
one
of
the
things
that
comes
up
is
that
we
need
a
little
extra
space
on
the
first
floor,
if
new
buildings
there
are
going
to
have
any
type
of
restaurants
or
stores
in
them,
so
we
really
need
15
foot.
So
if
we
played
with
that
50-foot
magic
number
that
everybody
talks
about,
let's
make
it
55.
A
You
is
there
anyone
else
that
would
like
to
address
counsel
on
any
issue.
Please
come
to
the
podium.
You
have
three
minutes:
okay,
seeing
none
if
there
are
any
folks
in
the
audience
that
have
submitted
their
name
for
a
border
committee
seat.
If
you'd
like
to
introduce
yourself
to
the
council,
please
come
forward
state
your
name
for
the
record,
what
position
you're
looking
to
fill-
and
you
have
three
minutes.
C
I
C
I
my
position
is
on
planning
and
zoning
is
to
represent
the
public,
there's
a
lot
of
competing
interests
in
any
town.
My
job
is
to
represent
the
public
and
not
anything
that
I
particularly
believe
in
so
I
go
out
and
I
talk
to
people
all
the
time.
I
walk
three
miles
a
day
through
my
neighborhood
three
times
a
week.
We
solve
all
the
world's
problems
but
nobody's
listening
anyway.
C
C
C
After
listening
to
all
the
comments
we
got
in
the
ldi's,
I'm
not
sure
I
should
be
doing
this
because
it's
going
to
be
a
tough
row
to
hold,
but
I
think
I've
got
a
big
learning
curve
advantage
because
I've
been
through
all
of
the
homework
that
mitch
has
given
us.
In
fact,
I
got
a
stack
of
it
at
home
that
I
still
have
to
read
with
regard
to
all
the
chapters
that
are
being
rewritten,
so
I
ask
for
your
support
in
renominating
me
for
my
second
term
on
the
planning
commission.
Thank
you.
A
C
A
A
Okay,
we
are
now
in
session
as
the
community
redevelopment
agency.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
all
commissioners
are
present.
If
you
would
like
to
go
ahead,
mr
murray,
oh
wait.
First,
we
have
to
do
minutes.
Citizen
comments.
Thank
you.
My
apologies
I'm
backwards
today
for
some
reason:
okay,
if
there's
anyone
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
offer
any
comments
to
the
commissioners
on
any
of
these
agenda
items
on
the
cra
agenda.
Please
come
to
the
podium
states,
your
name
for
the
record,
and
you
have
three
minutes:
okay,
seeing
no
one!
We!
F
F
It's
not
reasonable
to
charge,
but
if
they
used
any,
it
was
reasonable
and
there
there's
also
it
seems
like
there's
an
entire,
and
I
know
the
minutes
aren't
a
transcription
of
the
comments.
But
there
was
a
discussion
about
electricity.
Yes,
that
none
of
that
is
in
there
except
my
comment,
which
is
incorrect.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
amend
the
minutes
or
don't
approve
them
and
then
approving
the
next.
I'm
not
sure
what
the
process
is
for
that.
But
the
minutes
are
not
correct.
A
D
A
I'll
second,
that,
okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
have
the
minutes
amended,
as
stated
by
council
member
kuharski,
and
that
will
be
brought
back
to
the
next
cra
meeting.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you
all
right
and
now
we
have
the
cra
report.
City
manager,.
H
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
just
briefly
touch
on
the
municipal,
marina
activity.
When
you
look
at
the
year-over-year
comparison
from
2021
to
22,
you
can
see
our
annuals
are
down
somewhat.
We
do
have
an
increase
in
some
of
our
monthlies
and
transient.
Our
commercials
generally
remain
the
same
moorings
as
well
liveaboards.
We
have
a
fluctuation
there.
Some
of
that
is
because
of
the
contractual
issues
that
we're
currently
addressing
so
we'll
see
that
stabilize
in
the
near
future
and,
of
course,
the
community
room.
H
Months,
not
that
I'm
aware
of,
I
know
that
there
are
two
that
are
having
an
issue
with
the
new
contract.
They
want
to
sign
the
contract,
but
the
new
contract
requires
a
million
dollars
in
insurance
as
opposed
to
300
000
and
while
they
want
to
sign
the
contract.
So
they
have
that
period
of
time
that
they
can
find
other
accommodations
they've
been
unable
to
get
the
million
dollars
worth
of
insurance
that
the
new
one
requires.
So
that's
sort
of
a
nuance
that
we
didn't
consider
when
we
discussed
it.
H
H
So
the
monthly
comparison
for
a
pump
out
vessel,
obviously
on
in
april
we've
still
used
2410
gallons,
so
we're
still
well
over
2,
000
gallons
more
than
last
year,
2
700
last
month,
so
we're
right
in
the
same
ballpark
as
far
as
number
of
gallons
pumped.
You
can
see
that
we've
had
97
as
opposed
to
117
last
month,
but
we
still
had
97
last
year,
this
time
so
overall,
fairly
consistent,
92
of
which
were
florida
vessels,
so
we're
fairly
consistent
in
year
over
year.
H
The
number
that
we're
pumping
out
in
the
gallons
that
are
being
pumped,
we
had
a
few
less
miles,
meaning
they
were
in
closer
when
they
were
able
to
provide
the
service,
but
overall,
we're
still
obviously
using
the
pump
out
vessel
as
one
of
the
means
that
we
can
allow
the
liveaboards
at
all
in
our
marina.
So
that
was
one
of
the
positive
things
by
having
the
ss
clear
head
that
we're
using
as
we
move
forward
with
projects,
historic
city
hall,
rehabilitation,
we're
still
working
on
the
30
plans.
H
So,
while
much
of
that
is
appropriate,
it
does
become
an
issue
when
you
get
to
a
point
that
it
may
cost
and
it
doesn't
cost
this
I'm
just
using
it
as
an
example.
If
you're
going
to
save
500
a
year
for
doing
something
that
cost
you
two
million
dollars
up
front,
then
you
have
to
make
a
decision.
How
high
do
you
want
to
go
in
the
lead
level,
silver,
gold
or
platinum,
and
what
is
the
benefit
and
what
you
want?
Your
structure
to
look
like
and
function
like
long-term,
environmentally.
H
H
At
the
same
time,
of
course,
after
that
discussion
and
while
you're
on
summer
break
we'll
be
relocating
the
facilities
here
to
the
military
heritage
museum
and
when
you
come
back
from
break
the
intent.
Is
that
we'll
begin
meetings
with
our
advisory
committee
board
meetings,
council
meetings,
etc
at
the
military
heritage
museum
as
opposed
to
council
chambers?
So
they
can
begin
work
here.
So
we'll
give
you
more
information
on
that
as
the
time
approaches
gilchrist
park.
H
Obviously,
we've
started
improvements
there,
the
demolition
of
the
phase,
one
parking
area
you
can
see.
A
lot
of
that
now
is
leveled.
You
can
see
what
the
grade
is
going
to
look
like
there.
There
was
some
concern
about
some
of
the
trees
that
were
taken
down,
and
I
wanted
to
make
clear
that,
with
those
trees,
some
were
diseased.
Some
had
borders
in
there,
so
some
of
those
were
removed,
as
well
as
some
others
that
were
in
the
general
construction
area.
H
If
that
was
lined
with
trees,
they
would
have
had
to
come
out
to
make
the
diagonal
parking,
but
then
there's
more
trees
that
were
replaced
in
the
park
and
some
are
still
braced
there
for
trees
that
are
still
growing
that
were
replaced.
So
when
everything's
said
and
done,
obviously
it'll
look
much
different
than
it
does
now.
But
you
will
hear
the
comments
and
see
the
construction
activity
on
red
espanol
for
some
time
to
come.
H
The
harbor
walk,
plaques
and
dedication.
We've
had
the
plaques
now
installed
and
you
can
see
on
the
pillars
when
you
go
into
the
park
right
here.
At
the
end
of
harvey.
You
can
see,
there's
some
nice
signage
and,
of
course,
the
history
of
the
park
that
was
approved
by
the
ones
that
worked
on
that,
including
the
input
from
the
history
center
is
in
place.
So
we'll
have
a
dedication
there
at
some
point
in
the
future
and
formalize
that
requirement
that
has
now
been
completed.
H
We
actually
had
to
strip
everything
power,
wash
everything,
prime
it
and
then
team.
Punta
gorda
volunteers
spent
the
day
repainting
the
whole
building,
which
we
certainly
appreciate.
It
looks
wonderful,
it's
more
consistent
with
the
boat
club
color
now
and
when
you
look
up
through
the
park,
there's
a
nice
calming
blue
that
matches
all
the
surrounding
area
and
protects
the
asset
that
we
know.
We
have
more
major
work
in
a
project,
that's
upcoming,
but
that
was
several
years
out.
H
C
H
Go
but
they
are
very
nice.
I
mean
it's
a
long
time
coming
of
the
fruition
of
a
lot
of
work
that
staff's
put
into
it
also,
and
they
will
be
an
enhancement
to
the
amenities
that
we
see
downtown
and
help
people
as
they
visit
our
city
know
where
they're
going
and
where
they
are
wherever
you
go
there
you
are.
So
that's
we're
glad
that's
coming
to
fruition
and
it
really
looks
nice,
so
they've
done
a
good
job
at
that.
So
I'll
be
glad
when
that's
off
the
list,
then
we
can
say
it's
done.
C
A
A
A
D
D
Raise
your
right
hand.
Do
you
swear
from
the
testimony
you're
about
to
give
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
about
the
truth?
Thank
you.
When
you,
when
you've
approached
the
podium,
please
state
your
name
and
indicate
for
the
record
that
you
have
been
sworn
the
first
item
on
the
agenda.
Ga-04-2022.
D
Is
the
first
reading
of
an
ordinance?
This
is
legislative
in
nature
which
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
amending
the
city
of
punta
gorda,
firefighters,
retirement
system,
as
adopted
by
ordinance,
879-87
and
subsequently
amended,
is
hereby
further
amended
by
amending
section
5
contributions
to
provide
for
a
benefit
multiplier
of
3.5
percent.
H
There
was
no
formal
presentation
scheduled
now.
This
was
the
options
that
you
approved
publicly
during
the
discussion
for
the
new
union
contract
for
the
fire,
and
the
pension
change
was
all
part
of
that
discussion
that
was
publicly
presented
and
approved
previously.
This
is
a
legislative
in
nature,
in
that
it
has
to
be
formally
adopted
by
ordinance
so
that
the
prior
approval
is
becomes
official.
A
A
A
A
D
This
is
the
second
reading
of
an
ordinance
which
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
puente
gorda
florida
annexing
within
the
corporate
limits
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
property
addressed
as
102
rio
villa
drive,
punta
gorda
florida
containing
23,
986,
plus
or
minus
square
feet,
0.55
plus
or
minus
acres
identified
as
lot
37
block
a
a
kia
star
subdivision.
C
A
A
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
address
counsel
on
this
matter.
Last
call
anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
this
issue,
please
come
to
the
podium
I'll,
send
a
close
public
hearing.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
close
the
public
hearing.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye,
aye,
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
A
D
C
A
A
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
that
wishes
to
speak
on
this
issue?
Please
come
forward,
speak
and
state
your
name
for
the
record,
and
you
have
three
minutes
last
call.
Anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
this
agenda
item
move
to
close
public
hearing.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
close
the
public
hearing.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye.
All
right,
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
D
Minus
square
0.55,
plus
or
minus
acres
identified
as
slot
37
block
a
a
kia
star
subdivision,
as
recorded
in
plat
book
3,
page
11,
public
records
of
charlotte
county
florida
being
more
particularly
described
in
exhibit
a
attached
tier
2,
incorporated
here
in
and
is
addressed
as
102.
Rio
villa
drive
on
agora,
from
commercial
general,
slash
county
to
highway
commercial
city,
providing
for
certain
modifications
to
the
regulations
applicable
to
the
highway
commercial
zoning
classification,
providing
for
conflict
and
several
ability
and
providing
an
effective
date.
C
Well,
montgomery,
I
have
been
sworn
this
is
again:
william
rhonda
wagner
their
property
owners,
they
have
submitted
requests
for
the
city
of
hunter
gorda
to
re-zone
the
property
from
charlotte
county
commercial
zoning
to
city
highway
commercial.
This
request
is
the
final
step
in
the
annexation
process.
A
A
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
address
counsel
on
this
issue.
Last
call
anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
this
issue.
Please
come
forward,
move
close
public
hearing.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
close
the
public
hearing.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
C
H
H
A
F
A
E
No,
no,
I
got
that
this
is
regarding
an
application
that
we
received
for
the
use
of
the
bailly
brothers
park.
A
little
background
on
that.
That
is
an
urban
pocket
park
that
is
located
on
the
corner
of
dr
martin
luther
king,
boulevard
and
east
virginia
avenue.
It
honors
the
seven
bailey
brothers
of
puna
gorda.
It
was
funded
through
the
city
and
federal
community
development
block
grant
monies.
E
E
E
We
received
a
proposal
for
the
market
and
because
it's
not
part
of
our
weekly,
our
regular
rentals,
we
needed
to
come
and
have
council
discuss
and
see
what
they
wanted
to
do
moving
forward.
So
there
was
a
proposal
to
use
the
market
on
a
weekly
basis.
Every
friday
afternoon,
to
early
evening,
from
the
hours
of
three
to
eight,
there
will
be
a
variety
of
vendors
there.
As
you
see,
the
tables
along
the
outside
of
the
area
is
how
they
will
be
displayed
they're.
E
E
The
current
rental
fee
structure
for
urban
parks
has
been
previously
approved.
Council
could
add
this
one
to
that
those
locations
and
we
could
just
go
ahead.
Staff
would
go
ahead
and
add
it
to
the
event
manuals
to
be
as
a
rental
park
weekly
market
would
require
setting
the
rental
rates,
if
approved.
So,
if
you
so
desire
to
do
that,
we
will
need
to
have
an
amount
with
that
as
well.
F
E
City
council
adopted
an
annual
rental
fee
of
750
for
the
farmers
market
in
2019,
then
in
2020,
for
ease
of
the
permit
and
invoice
tracking
staff
required
the
farmers
market
to
submit
a
temporary
use
application
permit,
which
is
why
we
brought
this
one
in
under
that
process.
So
right
now,
they're
paying
750
annually
for
the
downtown
farmers
market
history
park
is
a
little
different
because
they
are
actually
renting
the
area
from
the
city.
So
they
they
don't
do
the
same
type
of
payment
to
the
city
as
the
downtown
market
does.
I
For
the
record
mitchell
austin
urban
design,
the
history
park
facility
is
a
public-private
partnership
with
the
pinewood
historical
society.
It's
basically
a
ground
lease
arrangement
there
that
was
established
back
in
the
90s.
I
think
it's
a
25-year
term.
I'm
not
sure
what
the
annual
fees
are.
Okay,.
I
E
F
F
Is
in
my
mind,
I'm
looking
at
a
square
foot
price,
so
whatever
the
square
foot
would
be
for
the
I
mean
I'd
like
to
see
a
matrix
of
in
order
for
me
to
decide
what
would
be
the
right
price
for
this.
What
what
do
we
charge
for
all
these
other
parks
on
on
either?
If
you
do
it
by
the
hour?
That's
fine
or
a
square
foot,
but
some
kind
of
you
know
apples
to
apples.
So
we
can
see
everything
and
determine
what
would
be
a
reasonable
fee.
For
that
part,
I'd
love
to
see
something
over.
F
I
think
the
more
of
these
kinds
of
things
that
we
do
in
the
city
adds
to
the
charm
and
the
character
of
town.
That's
more
of
it
is
the
better
but
it
but
it's
in
order
to
be
fair.
It
needs
there
needs
to
be
some
basis
of
comparison,
and
I
don't.
I
don't
know
that
these
that
you're,
showing
here
in
my
mind,
aren't
necessarily
the
right
ones.
I'd
like
to
see
the
parks
in
some
kind
of
equalized.
H
E
H
E
H
H
And
the
similarity
being
that
lashley
parks
on
the
water,
gilchrist
parks
on
the
water
hector
house
is
not
it's
internal
to
the
city
very
similar
to
the
one
we're
talking
about
ac
freeman.
Of
course,
that's
a
plaza
but
similar
it's
not
a
park,
but
it's
a
plaza
and
that's.
I
believe
why
hector
house
and
e.c
friedman
were
on
there.
J
E
J
E
H
B
B
B
H
A
Is
there
nighttime
lighting
in
that
park
because
we're
talking
about
3
to
8
p.m?
It's
going
to
involve
a
lot
of
not
not
daylight
hours
if
this
is
going
to
run
from
3
to
8
p.m
and
depending
upon
where
the
clock
lies,
that's
right
with
daylight
savings,
time
and
so
forth,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
safe
lighting
for
that
facility.
I
For
the
record
mitchell
austin
urban
design,
so
bailey
brothers
park
does
have
lighting.
It
has
decorator
street
lights,
as
well
as
the
the
florida
power
and
light
solar
structure
has
lighting
on
it.
Additionally,
martin
luther
king
jr
boulevard
is
lit
as
well
with
with
decorative
street
lighting.
If
you'd
like,
I
do
have
some
numbers
relative
to
lashley
park
in
the
per
square
foot.
If.
A
Okay,
let
me
finish
with
my
questions.
First,
if
I
may,
what
are
we
doing
in
terms
of
potential
traffic
and
also
where
are
people
going
to
park
because
there's
not
going
to
be
able
to
park
in
the
park
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
park
adjacent
to
the
park?
Because
that's
where
the
food
trucks
are
going
to
be?
Where
are
people
going
to
park?
Who
are
going
there.
I
So
there
is
on
street
parking
in
that
area.
There
is
some
on
street
parking
on
east
virginia.
There
is
on
street
parking
on
several
blocks
of
of
mlk
boulevard,
as
well
as
hargraves,
which
is
the
block
to
the
north
and
wood
street,
which
is
the
block
to
the
west.
So
there's
about
30,
I
believe
maybe
35
parking
spaces
within
600
feet
of
this
park.
A
I
G
Michael
heyman's,
representing
mr
james,
abraham
and
charles
edwards
here
for
the
happy
hour
market
place,
is
the
name
that
they've
identified.
It's
a
for-profit,
however,
looking
to
provide
a
portion
of
the
income
to
cooper
street
is
in
order
to
give
back
to
the
community
on
it.
That's
the
basic
premise
of
this
whole
thing
is
to
is
to
bring
some
energy
to
that
part
of
the
our
neighborhood
in
pineaborda.
G
G
G
I
can
tell
you
that
things
happen
if
someone
has
a
specific
time
and
a
specific
place
and
are
there
every
time
and
it
starts
building
upon
itself,
and
so
so
this,
oh,
I
know
the
discussion
is
how
much
to
charge
for
this.
I
can
say
that,
although
25
an
hour
at
like
at
hector
park
is
a
reasonable
amount,
what
we
would
ask,
at
least
for
your
consideration,
is
that
is
that,
just
like
the
history
park
is
a
nominal
sum.
G
Let
me
suggest
that
it's
probably
a
dollar
a
year
is
what
that
agreement
says,
and
then
they
have
their
farmers
markets
that
they're
on
sunday.
We
don't
want
to
compete
with
that.
We
want
to
follow
its
example,
but
but
they
have
a
very
minor
cost
to
the
city
and
payment
to
the
city.
The
hector
house,
if
it's
750
a
year,
is
what
they
pay
for
the
for
the
punta
border
chamber
and
the
downtown
merchants
committee
of
the
chamber,
then
that
works
out.
G
If
there's
52
weeks
in
a
year
at
750,
that's
14
a
day
is
really
what
that
boils
down
to
that.
The
chamber
is
paying
to
the
city
of
punta
gorda
for
the
hector
house
park,
and
that
includes
also
shutting
down
streets
and
and
other
kinds
of
things.
We
hope
all
someday
to
have
that
kind
of
success.
But
but
this
is
a
startup
business,
with
a
startup
concept
of
how
to
give
a
jump
start
to
some
community
involvement
and
activity
in
that
part
of
our
community.
That
needs
it.
G
Stuff,
it's
a
it's
a
park
already
and
so
neighbors
across
the
street
are
are
some
housing
that
supported
through
the
efforts
of
of
how
it
got
established?
There's
the
blanchard
house
museum.
That's
caddy,
corner
that,
although
they
haven't
been
open
a
lot
because
of
the
covid
that
that's
also
an
energy
center
that
that
brings
attention
to
that
area.
We
hope
that
this
will
also
do
that
notice
went
out
nobody's
here
in
opposition.
G
We
had
spoken
with
with
the
folks
with
the
development
association
that
owned
some
vacant
land
around
there
and
and
frankly,
they
wanted
a
little
bit
too
much
for
a
startup
business
for
the
rental
and
that's
when
we
decided
to
look
to
the
city.
Looking
at
the
example
of
the
hector
house
park
and
the
funnel
board
history
park,
wanting
to
follow
their
example,
but
not
compete
with
them,
and
that's
why
we
chose
friday
in
the
afternoon
it's
a
different
time
frame
and
allows
for
a
different
demographic
to
use
it.
G
But
no,
I
don't
think
that
it's
a
the
kind
of
thing
that
that
we
should
be
worried
about
that's
going
to
bring
a
negative
element.
I
would
ask
that
you
consider
this
particularly
for
a
year
on
the
nominal
fund
and
let
us
establish
and
see
and
show
what
we
can
do
as
opposed
to
to
burdening
it
with
too
much
cost
up
front.
This
is
a
an
attempt
to
bring
people
together
and
it's
a
start-up
business,
and
so
let
us
look
at
it
for
a
year
and
see
how
we're
doing
and
come
back
to
you.
I.
J
Did
you
ever
have
well,
I
would
just
when
I
first
read
this
and
was
thinking
about
it.
One
of
the
things
that
I
thought
is
that
maybe
we
could
waive
any
rental
for
the
first
three
months
to
see
how
it
goes
if
it's
successful
and
at
that
point,
if
we
feel
we
have
to
charge,
then
a
nominal
fee,
I
I
would
encourage
this
sort
of
startup
thing
in
our
community.
I
think
we
need
this
as
long
as
it's
open
to
all
vendors.
J
G
J
G
And-
and
I
appreciate
your
three
months
of
course,
that's
in
the
middle
of
the
summer
which
may
be,
and
so
that
would
be
very
appreciated,
but
we
don't
really
know
that
this
is
going
to
take
off
until
come
the
season
a
little
bit
better.
And
if
and
so
that's
why.
I
asked
for
a
year
consideration
on
that
and
then
let
us
come
back
to
you
and
talk
about
our
successes
and
our
and
if
there's
failures,
our
failures,
our
challenges
and
what
we
need
to
do
about
it.
B
Just
a
couple
questions
in
the
application:
basically,
it
states
that
I
would
run
the
flea
market
be
responsible
for
all
licensing
insurance,
maintenance
and
operation
cooper
street
would
earn
half
of
whatever
I
made
weekly
in
exchange
for
contracting
with
me
to
the
ground.
So
that's
going
to
be
something
that's
going
to
be
on
the
books
immediately.
G
That
was
started
out
with
the
very
first
request
was
hey.
How
about
we
do
this
at
cooper
street
and
the
board
of
directors
at
cooper
street
didn't
want
to
be
involved
in
that
endeavor,
but
we
want
to
support
them,
and
so
the
detail
of
that
hasn't
been
worked
out
exactly.
But
that's
our
intention
is
to
give
back
to
the
community
through
cooper
street.
C
B
K
K
Is
very
timely,
especially
dealing
with
our
topic
after
this
topic,
because
one
one
of
the
hindrances
to
bringing
businesses
back
to
the
historic
district
actually
is
our
ldrs.
I
mean
we
even
could
have
even
had
a
movie
theater.
It's
just
that
literally
due
to
our
present
code,
it's
made
it
very
hard
and
we
have
several
developers
that
really
wish
to
do
something.
I
think
this
is
a
very
good
pulling
the
trigger
to
get
things
started
in
the
community.
So
I'm
very
much
in
support
of
this.
I
E
With
it,
as
you
said,
you
could
do
it
for
a
year.
If
you
wanted
to
it's
a
temporary
use,
we
can
review
it
at
that
time.
The
applicant,
if
this
is
approved,
must
submit
the
business
tax,
receipt
application
to
the
city
clerk's
office
and
then
provide
a
certificate
of
insurance
naming
the
city
as
insured
as
additional
insured.
I.
A
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
request
at
all.
I
do
have
a
problem
with
with
giving
it
away
free,
because
the
city
does
have
costs
that
we
have
to
incur
to
keep
the
park
up
and
the
lighting
and
you
know
other
services,
so
I
do
have
a
problem
with
doing
anything
free.
I
do
think
a
nominal
amount
of
money
is
reasonable.
C
A
I
totally
agree,
and
that's
what
I'm
saying
is:
we
do
have
costs
that
we
incur
as
the
city,
so
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
cover
our
expenses
too,
because
even
though
you're
going
to
be
doing
business
there,
we
have
a
business
to
keep
running,
which
is
our
city
so
where
we
have
to
maintain
the
parks.
You
know
the
lawns
have
to
be
mowed.
The
sidewalks
have
to
be
kept
clear,
all
of
that
kind
of
stuff
lighting
and
other
facilities
that
are
there.
A
A
H
I
The
comparable
rate
for
this
park,
which
is
about
3
600
square
feet,
would
be
approximately
5.76
a
day
which
would
equate
to
approximately
312
dollars
per
year.
If
you
wanted
to
discount
that
for
year,
one
half
of
that
rate
would
be
156
dollars
for
year,
one
that
could
be
wrapped
up
in
the
con
temporary
use
process.
If
you
wanted
to
consider
approving
this.
J
My
thing
is:
we
have
to
maintain
that
park,
whether
there's
a
flea
market
there
on
a
friday
night
or
not,
we
have
to
mow.
We
have
to
turn
the
lights
on.
All
of
those
things
are
still
going
to
happen.
Whether
mr
abraham's
park
event
is
going
on
or
not
so
I
I
would
look
at
this
more
instead
of
a
tenant,
renter,
situ
or
you
know,
landlord
tenant.
I
would
look
at
this
as
a
partnership.
J
We're
gonna
we're
going
to
have
faith
in
you
to
use
our
property,
and
in
return
for
that
you're
going
to
do
some
good
for
the
community
and
honestly,
I'm
not
willing
to
tell
them
they
have
to
pay
us
five
dollars
a
day.
For
this
part
I
mean
I'm
just
I'm
not
going
there.
I
don't
think
that's
reasonable
at
all.
A
I
I
would
propose
75
a
week
to
start
and
let's
see
how
it
goes,
that's
that
would
be
my
initial
thought.
I
could
agree
to
that:
that's
less
than
25
an
hour
for
five
hours,
so
I
I
think
that's
a
reasonable
amount
of
money
and
it
should
help
cover
some
of
our
costs
to
maintain
the
park
and
and
still
be
fair.
B
D
If
you
might
before
you
vote
on
that,
if
someone
would
state
on
the
record
that
the
city's
intent
is
to
stimulate
the
use
of
a
perhaps
under
utilized
park,
which
may
which
may
encourage
others
to
come
in,
and
for
that
reason
a
special
consideration
is
being
given
for
this
applicant,
and
hopefully
it
will
spur
other
people
to
similarly
want
to
use
the
park
at
which
time
you
might
impose
a
the
standard
rate
for
future
vendors.
Can
we
take
these
exactly.
J
E
So
I
have
two
more
requests
of
the
applicant.
One
is
a
suggestion
that
they
provide
an
they
develop
a
set
of
standard
operating
procedures
for
the
group
so
that
as
they
come
in
and
they
start
they
have
something
to
follow.
If
there's
any
rules
or
regulations
that
you'll
have
specific
to
the
area
set
up
time
clean
up
time,
things
of
that
nature
also,
if
any
off-premise
signage
is
proposed,
then
a
list
of
locations
and
example
signs
need
to
be
presented
to
provide
it
to
the
urban
design
for
approval.
H
A
D
G
J
G
F
A
F
The
reason
we
have
so
much
undeveloped
land
in
our
downtown
core
and
waterfront
in
the
last
20
years
or
so
since
charlie,
is
that
developers
have
been
unable
to
build
a
reasonable
pro
forma
with
an
acceptable
roi.
This
is
directly
related
to
density,
which
is
directly
related
to
height.
There
are
other
ways
to
increase
density,
such
as
less
parking
or
more
open
space,
but
these
are
trade-offs.
F
I
can't
make
my
concern
is
that
unless
we
find
a
way
forward,
we
will
likely
be
looking
at
the
same
dirt
20
years
from
now,
keep
in
mind
that
the
current
limit
height
limit
is
not
60
feet,
developers
can
request
and
council
can
approve
buildings
of
any
height.
There
is
no
limit
without
the
developer.
Having
to
do
anything
other
than
ask
the
proposed
ldrs
create
a
base
height
that
developers
can
build
two
by
right.
F
F
If
a
developer
offers
to
build
a
200
space
parking
structure
above
and
beyond
the
minimum
required
by
code
in
exchange
for
additional
height
or
density,
in
order
to
make
his
project
viable,
that's
a
trade.
I
would
gladly
make
keep
in
mind
that
the
architectural
provisions
in
article
7,
which
are
going
to
be
discussed
shortly,
ensure
that
the
building
would
be
appropriate
in
character
and
would
not
create
the
tunnel
effect
that
we're
all
concerned
about.
F
In
reality,
this
kind
of
development
probably
only
makes
sense
in
the
four
waterfront
properties,
not
the
marketplace,
so
another
example
would
be
allowing
additional
height
and
density
for
rebuilding
the
marinas
destroyed
by
charlie.
The
cost
would
likely
exceed
that
of
the
parking
structure.
I
would
gladly
make
that
trade
also
there
are.
These
are
all
projects
that
benefit
the
city
and
would
be
built
with
private
investment
rather
than
tax
dollars.
F
These
are
significant
investments
and
most,
but
not
all
developers
would
likely
pass.
So
why
do
it
in
the
first
place?
We
don't
want
all
developers
to
do
this,
but
we
do
want
some.
This
will
help
create
the
variability
that
enhances
a
small
town
charm
we
all
enjoy,
but
other
southwest
florida
cities.
Don't
the
kicker
is
that
if
they
do,
the
city
gets
something
in
the
bargain.
F
If
they
don't,
then
the
height
and
limb
and
density
is
self-limiting,
and
I
would
add,
regarding
the
murals
to
me,
I
think
if
a
mural
is
part
of
the
building,
that's
an
architectural
element,
so
I
think
that
I
wouldn't
want.
I
wouldn't
support
changing
the
the
codes
just
so
we
have
a
bunch
of
blank
space
that
may
or
may
not
eventually
have
a
mural,
but
if
a
mural
was
planned
as
part
of
the
development,
that's
an
architectural
element
that
I
think
is
perfectly
acceptable
and
approval.
F
A
C
I
We
go
so
the
land
development
regulation
update
is
chapter
26
of
the
city
code
of
ordinances.
At
the
last
meeting
we
spoke
about
article
3,
which
is
the
regulating
districts,
which
establishes
development
rights
and
standards
and
is
designed
to
ensure
protections
of
historic
character
of
our
community.
I
Article
seven
is
is
where
the
rubber
really
meets
the
road
in
terms
of
that
retaining
the
architectural
character
of
our
community
and
and
that
historic
feel
of
small
town
punta
gorda.
The
architectural
provisions
are
designed
to
codify
architectural
style
standards
and
reflect
the
historic
character
of
our
community
and
scale.
H
First
of
all,
as
we
go
through
the
detail
in
this
there's
a
substantial
amount
of
detail
and
the
intent
is
not
to
take
up
all
the
time
by
describing
an
awning
versus
a
canopy,
that's
detail,
but
it
is
intended
to
show
what's
proposed
and
how
that
interfaces
with
other
things
like
zero
lot
lines
and
whatever
the
case
may
be.
It
also
does
not
address
parking
at
this
point
which
I'm
sure
mitchell
was
going
to
say
anyway.
H
But
parking
is
in
section
10
and
or
article
10,
and
we
do
have
to
address
parking,
I
mean
it
has
to
be
discussed.
It
has
to
be
determined
what
the
new
regulations
will
be
and
how
that
then
may
impact
any
of
this.
So
all
of
those
will
be
discussed
in
due
time.
I
believe
that's
the
next
meeting
as
a
matter
of
fact
where
the
other
articles
are
coming
in,
but
this
is
really
the
architectural
detail.
H
H
I
I
I
There
are
specific
standards
for
buildings
that
are
within
flood
plains,
which
is
pretty
much
all
of
our
buildings,
so
I'll
cover
that
briefly
building
frontage
standards,
which
are
really
how
the
building
will
address
the
street
with
key
major
architectural
components
and
then
architectural
styles,
which
are
based
on
those
historic
styles
that
are
found
within
the
city,
so
just
to
provide
a
brief
bit
of
context.
The
regulating
plan.
This
is
the
map
that's
seen
here.
I
Those
regulating
districts
were
discussed
in
detail
at
the
last
meeting,
so
certain
components
of
article
7
are
specific
to
individual
regulating
districts.
So
that's
why
this
plan
is
important
to
those
additionally,
the
overlay
districts.
Some
of
these
elements
are
are
not
permitted
in
a
specific
historic
districts
or
in
the
medical
overlay
in
section
3,
there's
a
summary
table
which
details
all
the
regulating
districts
and
overlays
and
what
building
types
are
permitted
and
which
architectural
styles.
I
So,
for
instance,
if
we
drill
down
into
this
big
summary
table
a
little
bit
and
we
looked
at
the
downtown
core,
let's
say
we
know
that
we
cannot
build
a
building.
That
is
a
mid-century,
modern,
architectural
style,
but
we
could
build
a
building.
That's
a
main
street
vernacular
style.
So
that's
what
that
summary
table
means.
I
So
there
are
17
building
types
in
the
proposed
traditional
puna
gorda
area.
Those
building
types
are
really
a
proxy
for
what
we
would
have
in
a
traditional
zoning
code
for
the
uses
within
the
building.
So
a
house
is
different
from
the
way
you
would
build
a
courtyard
apartment,
which
is
a
type
of
multi-family
dwelling,
and
those
would
be
different
from
the
way
you
would
build.
A
small
footprint
mixed
use,
building.
I
So,
in
terms
of
the
general
building
standards,
there's
a
lot
of
detail
here
in
terms
of
both
text
and
visual
descriptions
of
major
components
like
the
facade
composition,
what
type
of
rhythm
and
pattern
of
when
doing
door,
openings
and
other
details
you
need
to
have
in
terms
of
the
transparency
of
the
building.
How
can
you
see
into
the
building
from
the
street?
I
The
elevated
building
standards
in
section
7.2
c
are
specifically
targeted
towards
addressing
concerns
both
within
the
residential
areas
and
within
the
downtown
regarding
how
buildings
that
are
going
to
be
elevated
to
current
base
flood
elevation,
which
may
be
upwards
of
seven
or
eight
feet
above
the
current
sidewalk,
how
those
would
look
and
feel
specifically
related
to
commercial
buildings,
mixed-use
buildings
in
the
downtown
area.
The
principal
architectural
feature
is
really
calls
for
a
terrace
type
effect
and
a
terrace
would
push
the
main
body
of
the
building.
I
Back
from
the
street
and
allow
you
to
come
up
in
rises
from
the
existing
sidewalk
onto
terraces
to
the
actual
habitable
foreground
floor
of
the
building.
So
an
example
of
this
is
is
110
sullivan
street,
which
has
that
terrace
effect.
This
building
is
about
six
feet
above
the
sidewalk,
so
in
the
current
code
that
landscaped
area
would
actually
be
another
terrace
midpoint
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
building
front,
which
is
an
enclosed
terrace
area
to
enter
the
building.
I
I
So
a
major
component
of
these
architectural
provisions,
the
next
major
component-
is
really
frontage.
Standards
and
frontage
standards
come
in
in
four
varieties:
they're
either
required
conditionally
required
optional
or
prohibited,
and
that
is
done
based
on
the
building
type
and
the
type
of
frontage.
So,
in
that
respect,
it's
it's
dealing
with
these
two
things
gives
you
the
the
matrix
of
whether
it's
prohibited
required
conditional
or
optional.
I
So
if
we
zoom
into
this
a
little
bit
and
look
more
closely,
we'll
see
a
mixed-use
building,
there'll
be
things
that
are
specifically
required,
a
storefront
and
a
lobby
entrance
you
would
need
both
because
it's
a
mixed-use
building
a
storefront
is
the
retail
on
the
ground
floor.
A
lobby
is
accommodating
those
uses
above
the
ground
floor,
so
both
of
those
frontage
types
are
required
for
mixed-use
building.
I
I
So
they
do
have
some
choice
there,
but
they're
required
to
have
at
least
one
next.
We
have
optional
frontage
types.
These
optional
types
are
things
that
may
be
appropriate
to
add
in
addition
to
the
required
and
conditionally
required
frontage
type,
and
we
would
work
through
that
with
the
applicant
in
the
in
the
process
of
of
the
development
review
and,
of
course,
there
are
things
which
are
specifically
prohibited
in
this
case.
When
we're
talking
about
mixed-use
buildings,
a
porch
is
not
an
appropriate
frontage
type
because
a
porch
says
residential
and
these
buildings
are
primarily
commercial.
I
I
So,
just
briefly,
if
we
walk
through
these
frontage
standards
for
mixed
use,
I
don't
want
to
boil
over
these
this
point,
but
you're
required
to
have
a
storefront.
Here's
an
example.
It's
very
carefully
through
diagrams
and
dimensional
standards
spelled
out
what
an
applicant
has
to
do
to
meet
these
standards.
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
Another
example
of
that
is,
of
course,
the
terrace.
The
terrace
again
provides
us
the
benefit
of
being
able
to
get
up
to
base
flood
elevation
from
the
street
level
in
a
fairly
elegant
way.
This
the
here
in
town,
the
swiss
connections,
building
this
building,
does
have
a
terrace,
it's
actually
covered
by
a
an
arcade,
a
gallery,
but
that
terrace
provides
you
a
way
to
to
transition
from
the
street
to
the
interior
of
the
building,
getting
up
to
baseball
and
elevation.
I
I
I
You
know
you
see
barista
ways
or
you
know,
covered
balconies
like
this
shading,
the
facades
so
very,
very
typical
architectural
style,
both
here
in
the
region
and
here
in
the
city,
masonry
modern
architectural
style,
which
we
see
several
buildings
like
that
around
town.
This
tends
to
be
a
simpler
sort
of
commercial
vernacular
that
you
would
see
after
world
war
ii
and
the
coldwell
banker.
Building
there
realty
building
is
is
a
good
example
of
that.
I
So,
just
to
briefly
talk
about
next
steps,
because
I
know
that
we're
you
know:
we've
gotten
many
questions
about
many
things
and
we're
trying
to
provide
good
overviews
of
the
proposed
changes
in
digestible
bites.
So
we've
had
two
meetings
at
city
council
so
far
where
we've
talked
about
the
two
big
articles,
article
3
and
article
7.
I
All
of
those
things
are
still
to
come
after
we
get
done
reviewing
the
first
draft
and
discussing
this
first
draft.
This
first
draft
in
its
totality
we'll
be
going
back
and
taking
all
of
the
comments
that
we've
received
back
to
our
consultants,
to
revise
the
first
draft
to
accommodate
those
changes
that
are
that
have
come
up
and
to
address
those
concerns
in
the
best
way
that
we
can.
We
will
be
also
be
holding
another
round
of
stakeholder
group
interviews
which
will
be
with
a
community
groups,
council,
developer
groups,
etc.
I
So
those
code
testing
examples
will
be
available,
and
at
that
point
where
we
have
something
visual
and
tangible,
that's
easy
for
even
people
like
me
to
understand
that
we
will
get
to
go
back
to
the
public
and
have
a
series
of
meetings
discussing
those
it's
like
is
this
hitting
the
mark?
Is
there
concerns
here
with
how
this
could
be
developed
under
these
regulations?
I
So
that's
that's
where
we
are
at
this
point.
If
you
have
any
questions
or
concerns,
I
am
definitely
here
and
available.
We
also
have
our
welcoming
public
comments
now
and
always
into
this
process
either
through
directly
through
the
websites
that
are
seen
on
the
screen
are
via
the
email
address.
That
is
that's
the
general
urban
design
email
address
that
doesn't
go
to
file
13
that
actually
comes
directly
so.
H
Once
you
identify
what
changes
can
be
made
in
the
comp
plan,
I'm
saying
that
because
we
had
a
substantial
amount
of
time,
we
were
ahead
of
the
curve
for
comp
plan
approval,
but
as
we
move
through
this
process,
the
comp
plan
required
submittal
to
the
state
is
getting
shorter
and
shorter.
So
as
this
becomes
more
fleshed
out
and
you're
comfortable
with
what
may
be
approved
through
these
articles,
the
comp
plan
then
will
have
to
come
back
we'll
make
that
all
consistent.
H
I
J
J
J
J
This
could
be
the
same
original
document.
I
I
see
nothing
of
the
mains,
the
main
things
that
concerned
my
constituency
are
all
still
here-
there's
no
exception
in
here.
If
somebody
wants
to
put
a
mural
instead
of
a
wall,
we
lost
a
wonderful
opportunity
for
a
mural
present
at
chase
bank,
because
in
order
for
them
not
to
have
those
faux
windows
and
have
a
mural
there,
they
would
have
had
to
have
come
before
council
and
asked
for
a
variance,
and
they
weren't
willing
to
do
that.
J
And
I
don't
see
anything
here
that
allows
anybody
to
do
that
and
it's
not
just
because
I,
the
murals,
are
near
and
dear
to
my
heart
that
I
am
harping
on
this.
It's
because
there
have
been
a
lot
of
instances
where
we
have
shown
you
time
and
time
again
how
much
the
murals
mean
to
this
city.
It's
an
economic
driver.
J
The
you
know
the
the
community
benefits
the
heights,
the
parking.
These
are
all
things
that
people
have
given
you
feedback
on
and
I'm
sorry.
This
is
the
original
document.
You
may
have
changed
a
few
names.
You
may
have
taken
out
a
a
area
and
put
in
another
name
for
that
area,
but
I
see
nothing
here
that
is
responsive
to
the
people
who
put
me
in
this
chair
and
I'm
now
on
the
record
of
saying
it
and
I
will
shut
up.
K
One
thing
our
job,
I
think,
when
we
come
to
making
decisions,
we
have,
I
say,
a
three-fold
responsibility,
one.
We
need
to
practice
best
practices
in
the
discipline,
whether
it's
designing
a
power
plant.
I
mean
a
water
plant,
sewer
lines,
urban
design.
All
of
these
are
highly
technical
fields
which
require
best
practices.
K
The
other
part
is
actually
our
community
input
and,
thirdly,
our
staff
input
of
our,
and
we
have
to
have
a
balance
of
understanding
that
our
staff
cannot
deviate
from
doing
their
professional
job
as
much
as
we
may
say,
we
want
certain
things.
If
they're
actually
out
of
line
with
professional
standards,
they
still
have
to
practice
their
trade,
and
so
I
mean
one
of
the
problems
we
had.
K
We
had
the
economist
actually
do
a
study
and
said
that
if
we
kept
the
status
quo
of
how
we
had
been
doing
before
this
process,
our
city
would
be
insolvent
by
2030
as
a
result
of
our
architecture,
because
architecture
is
not
only
the
aesthetics,
it's
also
it's
the
functionality
of
a
city
and
what
we
did.
We
made
a
decision
to
do
form-based
codes,
rather
than
was
just
just
having
a
a
simple
conversation
of
height
intensity.
K
We
asked
a
consultant
to
actually
create
a
very
complex
calculation
of
how
to
achieve
the
look
in
which
we
say
our
residents
want,
and
so
in
order
to
have
that
look,
it's
called
form
based,
not
use
space.
So
in
that
case
we
have
to
allow
for
the
math
to
work
so
that
it
can
look
how
we
want
the
city
to
look.
K
It's
very
important
also
that
we
are
not
making
a
decision
based
on
what
we
want
right
now,
we're
making
a
decision
on
what's
good
for
the
city,
20
50
100
years
from
now-
and
you
have
to
say
this
like
a
hundred
times-
we're
not
voting
for
what
we
want
right
now.
This
is
we're
not
doing
a
polling
expedition.
K
What
we're
doing
is
we're
actually
planning
a
viable
code
following
best
practices
in
urban
design
and
planning
to
actually
make
it,
so
our
city
can
actually
get
us
vitality
back
because
this
point
right
now
we're
very,
very
narrow
I
mean
we
can.
We
could
not
survive
a
second
charlie.
We
had
money,
then
we
don't
have
money
now
because
of
the
fact
that
our
architecture
does
not
embody
a
viability
of
our
city.
We
now
have
actually
taken
the
time
spent
the
money
to
actually
create.
K
As
you
can
see
here,
we
can
actually
achieve
the
architectural
look
which
our
which
our
residents
want
to
have,
but
we
have
to
let
the
professionals
do
this
without
trying
to
dissect
it.
It's
like
we're
trying
to
do,
gene
editing
or
we
might
as
well
say.
Well,
I'm
going
to
do
the
sewer
plans,
I'm
going
to
decide
whether
I'm
going
to
have
a
45
degree
angle
here,
a
90
foot
angle.
I
don't
have
a
real
reason
for
saying
so,
but
I
asked
10
of
my
friends
and
we
said
that
we
don't
like
45
degree
angles.
K
It's
really
when
it
comes
to
this.
This
has
that
degree
of
precision.
This
is
a
very
technical
document
and
we
asked
for
this.
We
actually
paid
money
to
have
a
very,
very
complex
calculation
done
to
achieve
an
architectural
look,
and
I
I'm
very
happy
with
this
and
again
we
can
do
tweaks
like
again
with
the
murals.
I
I
agree
with
you
these
kind
of
changes
we
can
do,
but
actually
changing
the
actual
math
of
the
equation.
Absolutely
not.
K
K
If
not
the
nation
and
they're
doing
their
jobs,
they
are
actually
doing
their
jobs
or
practicing
best
practices,
and
I
think
that
we
should
be
thankful
that
we
have
such
good
staff
on
working
for
the
city
and
I'm
just
very
happy
that
they
brought
such
a
professional
document
which
actually
will
bring
back
the
architectural
look
and,
as
mark
said
before,
this
document
is
actually
putting
restrictions.
So
we
cannot
ever
achieve
the
skyscraper
situation
which,
which
people
are
afraid
of
with
this
document
we
never
ever
ever
ever
can
go
there.
B
Melissa
a
couple
things
I
I
do
agree
100
with
the
murals.
I
think
that
is
definitely
a
driver
of
the
city.
I
think
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
I
don't
want
to
lose
the
murals
because
of
too
stringent
of
of
code,
so
I
think
that
100
needs
to
be
in
consideration
to
be
able
to
allow
for
murals
on
the
buildings.
I
So
for
commercial
building
like
this,
so
let's
pull
back
from
the
proposed
code
just
to
the
current
code.
Under
the
current
code
in
this
zoning
classification,
you
have
to
build
a
two-story
building
minimum,
so
you
couldn't
build
back
ace
hardware
as
it
is
right
now
because
it
have
to
be
a
two-story
building.
So
one.
I
I
So,
if
dry
flood
proofing
has
costs,
elevating
a
structure
has
costs
balancing
that
equation
as
a
private
sector
decision,
that's
left
out
of
the
hands
of
government
bureaucrats
like
myself,
but
this
building
under
these
codes
under
the
codes
that
are
proposed
could
be
rebuilt
exactly
as
it
sits
right
there.
It
would
be
compliant.
It
has
a
recessed
storefront.
It
has
storefront
windows,
it
has
an
awning,
so
it
meets
the
required
architecture
are
frontage
standards
and
the
conditionally
required
standards.
I
A
I
That
you
could
rebuild
that
building
exactly
as
is
under
these
codes.
It
would
cost
a
lot
of
money
because
the
dry
flood
proofing,
but
it
could
be
built
exactly
this
way
if
they
wanted
to
elevate
it
and
build
it
to
base
flood
elevation
under
these
codes,
they
would
have
to
recess
it
further
and
have
a
terrorist
to
be
able
to
step
up
to
base
flood
elevation.
H
A
He
wanted
to
get
rid
of
that
rule
because
that's
how
we
ended
up
with
the
backwards
gas
station
at
the
corner
of
the
kia
stone
41,
because
they
couldn't
build
a
gas
station
with
their
gas
pumps
in
front
of
the
building.
They
had
to
build
the
station
backwards.
That
needs
to
be
changed,
because
that
was
something
we
specifically
said
over
three
years
ago
at
this
council
that
that
needs
to
go
away.
A
We
can,
we
can't
have
any
more
of
those
buildings
that
looks
absolutely
horrible
and
it
also
says
parking
shall
be
located
to
the
rear
and
the
side
and
or
the
side
of
the
building.
We
had
to
have
a
special
hearing
for
aldi,
so
they
could
do
that
so
that
they
could
put
parking
in
front
of
the
building
and
they
could
set
the
building
back
far
from
the
street.
That
needs
to
be
changed.
Those
two
clauses
need
to
be
removed.
A
A
For
the
same
reason,
we're
going
to
we
pulled
an
agenda
item
for
today,
because
we're
talking
about
stamped
concrete
on
17,
where
we,
how
many
trip
and
fall
lawsuits
do
we
have
to
incur
at
the
city
level,
for
people
to
understand
that
stamped
concrete
and
pavers
are
not
nearly
as
safe
as
flat,
concrete
or
flat
surfaces.
And
I'm
sorry
I
don't
agree
with
that
at
all.
A
I
think
that's
got
to
be
taken
out
out
of
the
information
that's
shared
and
finally,
at
least
for
this
moment
in
on
the
first
document
that
was
attached
to
this
agenda
item
today,
you're
still
going
with
shifting
program,
administrative
burden
from
city
council
to
technical
staff.
Absolutely
not
absolutely
not.
A
These
are
city
council
decisions.
We
when
we
sit
at
this
dais,
we
are
elected
to
represent
the
citizens
of
this
city.
I
fought
an
unbelievable
campaign,
as
did
vice
mayor
kerry,
to
get
right
to
get
voted
into
this
seat
to
represent
the
citizens
of
this
city.
I
represent
the
citizens
at
all
times
and
my
residents
that
have
talked
to
hundreds
of
them
have
asked
for
the
same
things
over
and
over.
Just
like
what
debbie
said
a
little
while
ago.
A
How
many
times
do
we
have
to
tell
city
staff
and
dover
call?
We
don't
want
additional
height,
and
you
can
say
what
you
want
to
say
about
this
new
community
benefits
idea,
but
mark
kucharski
had
his
statement
that
he
read
it's
my
turn
to
read
my
statement.
My
statement
is,
you
may
not
be
adding
additional
height
per
se,
but
you've
got
a
specified
height
restriction
for
the
city,
downtown
area
right
now,
but
that's
plus
plus
so
take
a
60-foot
building.
A
Absolutely
not
I'm
sorry,
dovercoal
doesn't
get
us.
If
you
keep
supporting
this,
you
don't
get
us
and
I
have
a
real
problem
with
that.
We've
been
through
this
for
three
years
and
let's
face
it.
If
it
wasn't
for
city
marketplace
being
vacant,
we
wouldn't
even
be
having
these
discussions,
because
the
master
plan
wouldn't
have
even
happened.
We've
spent
a
ton
of
money
and
I
agree
with
debbie.
We
are
not
a
lot
further
ahead
than
we
were
three
years
ago.
B
Did
see
in
there
about
the
shifting
of
what
department
would
be
responsible
for
approval?
I
didn't
bring
it
up
yet
because
in
my
mind,
honestly,
it
would
have
to
be
I
I
I
would
reserve
that
decision
for
when
we
get
to
the
finality
of
it
and
see
where
it
all
lies.
So,
if
it
is,
you
know
a
b
c
d,
and
this
is
what
we
have.
B
I
would
be
okay
with
a
little
bit
more
leniency
of
staff,
but
if
it's
still
more
open
to
discussion
with,
there
could
be
variances
that
are
going
to
come
back
and
there
could
be
this
and
could
be
that
there's
just
more
wiggle
room
then.
Yes,
I
definitely
think
it
needs
to
come
back
to
council
because
we
are
representing
the
residents
again.
J
They
asked
us
our
opinion,
they
wanted
to
know
and
if
they
were
going
to
do
it
their
way
or
no
way,
they
should
have
just
said
that
from
the
beginning-
and
just
you
know,
don't
don't
give
people
the
expectation
that
they're
going
to
have
some
say
in
the
future
of
the
city
that
they've
moved
to
because
they
love
it.
Don't
do
that
just
say
we're
the
staff
we're
the
professionals
dover
coal
is
who
we
hired.
You
wanted
to
fire
them
too
bad.
You
lost,
you
have
to
accept
what
they
say.
J
J
K
I'm
saying
in
the
same
way
that
a
doctor
has
consultations
with
patients
we're
the
patient.
These
are
city
doctors
and
we
share
as
much
as
we
can,
but
ultimately
end
of
the
day.
How
we
get
our
care
is
one
thing
but
they're
not
going
to
leave
a
certain
professional
box
of
what
is
good
for
you,
like
your.
Your
doctor,
is
not
going
to
agree
with
if
I
want
to
have
a
high
fat
high
sugar
diet.
K
At
no
point
is
there
going
to
be
a
way
you're
they're,
going
to
like
make
that
sense
in
their
mind,
they're
going
to
still
try
to
talk,
they
may
let
you
have
a
little
bit
of
sugar
a
little
bit
of
fat,
but
they're
not
going
to
let
you
have
exactly
what
you
want.
If
that
thing
is
not
good
for
you
and
I'm
saying
in
black
and
white
we've
proven,
I
mean
we
had
to
raise
taxes
18
last
year
because
of
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
a
viable
architecture.
K
Our
a
city's
life
is
his
architecture.
Our
architecture
is
not
viable.
It's
in
black
and
white.
We
had
an
economist.
Do
the
numbers
if
we
want
to
basically
keep
increasing
our
citizens
taxes
exponentially?
Yes,
then
we
can
actually
do
nothing
at
all,
let
stuff
stay,
but
we
want
to
actually
have
a
viable
city
and
again,
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time.
On
this
I
went
to
savannah
three
times
a
year,
just
to
study
their
code
and
look
at
them.
K
As
an
example
of
an
historic
city,
looks
beautiful
form-based
code
not
use
space
code,
it
looks
the
way
it
looks.
It
looks
beautiful
and
within
that
you,
you
have
varying
heights
and
densities
within
that,
but
in
this
case
we
asked
professionals
to
come
because
we
need
professionals.
If
we
didn't
need
professionals,
we
would
actually
have
a
flush
economy.
Our
architecture
literally
is
is
the
example.
Our
lack
of
architecture,
truth
be
told
is,
is,
is
our
problem
and
we
need
to
get
our
city
back.
I
mean
from
the
time
I
was
a
child.
K
I've
seen
it
decreasingly
less
less
less.
I
mean
our
the
whole
historic
architecture.
Pretty
much
right
where
I
was
born
was
wiped
out
basically
due
to
decisions
by
people
just
not
wanting
to
have
historic
houses
on
a
lot
of
the
historic
district,
and
so
I'm
saying
at
this
point
in
time,
2022
we
we
actually
have
underemployed
professionals
who
want
to
help
us
really
get
back
what
we
need
to
have
for
our
city
to
survive
for
the
next
140
years,
because
we're
at
a
point
now,
we've
never
been
on
the
ropes
like
this.
K
A
Every
week
I
spend
my
entire
day.
Most
most
days,
answering
emails
and
phone
calls,
and
I'm
going
to
tell
you
right
now.
I
heard
I've
heard
from
at
least
three
dozen
people
just
in
the
last
week
about
this
building
height
situation.
This
is
not
going
away.
People
are
going
to
be
involved,
I'm
going
to
request
and
and
absolutely
stay
firm
on
this.
I
would
like
to
request
that
we
have
at
least
two
or
three
more
workshops
open
workshops
where
the
city
staff
can
present
the
master
plan
updates,
and
I'm
not
talking
a
year
from
now.
A
I'm
talking
throughout
this
whole
process,
this
has
got
to
be
more
transparent
if
it
means
doing
one
every
three
months.
We
do
it.
We
have
a
an
evening
workshop
where
people
who
work
can
also
attend.
I
think
we
also
need
to
have
an
open
workshop
for
the
builders
who
are
going
to
be
very
involved
in
this
segment
of
the
master
plan.
A
The
builders
need
to
have
some
input.
I
would
absolutely
demand
that
we
have
a
workshop
and
let
the
city
council
members
sit
in
on
it,
so
we
we've
never
been
invited
to
those
before.
I
think
that
the
city
council
members
need
to
be
able
to
sit
in
on
those
meetings
and
listen
to
their
concerns
because
we're
the
ones
that
get
to
vote
on
this
eventually.
A
I
also
would
like
to
suggest
that
we
put
an
online
poll
on
the
website
and
ask
the
residents
online
what
their
thoughts
are
on
building
height.
Let's
talk
to
the
residents
and
let's
get
their
feedback,
because
I'm
going
to
tell
you
right
now,
you're
going
to
get
the
same
results
that
you
got
at
the
charettes
and
that
is
that
they
don't
want
additional
building
height
downtown
period.
K
But
then
we
also
on
the
same
poll.
We
should
ask
if
they
want
to
have
higher
taxes,
because
it's
the
same
question,
because
you
know
getting
to
this
again
getting
to
are
not
an
hoa,
and
it's
very,
very
important
that
we
understand
that
this
body
here
we're
not
a
polling
organization,
we're
a
municipal
government.
We
have
to
think
about
not
only
the
one
year
right
now
what
I
want.
K
We
have
to
think
about
the
long
vision
of
what's
going
to
be
good
for
our
residents,
what's
good
for
the
city,
and
so
with
that
being
that
we're
government
and
we're
not
an
hoa,
we
actually
have
to
have
best
practices
as
part
of
system
being
like
this.
If
we
had
this
same
attitude
towards
our
water
department,
we
just
ran.
We
just
take
polls
on
well.
I
think
I
like
this,
I
like
that
and
we
don't
have
actual
engineers
involved,
we'd
be
in
a
mess.
This
is
a
professional
endeavor
that
requires
again.
K
Our
job
is
to
look
at
best
practices,
staff
review
and
in
in
in
a
robust
response
from
our
residents.
But
it's
a
balance
between
all
three.
We
can't
have
only
no,
we
cannot
not
have
best
practices
we
have
to
operate.
We
are
a
professional
body.
We
have
to
exist
because
all
of
us
here
we're
only
borrowing
the
chairs
for
those
kinds
of
people
after
us,
so
we
can't
leave
the
city
in
total
destruction,
because,
right
now
it
is
in
black
and
white.
K
We,
our
city,
will
be
insolvent
based
on
our
decisions
for
the
last
17
years,
we've
been
exactly
at
the
same
place
and
we're
at
a
point
now
where
we
actually
have
the
opportunity
to
actually
get
architecture
back
to
actually
fit
what
has
been
historically
front
to
gorda
to
get
our
city
back
because
again,
people
may
not
want
to
think
about
this.
We
now
if
we
do
not
get
our
vibrancy
back,
we
now
actually
are
in
competition.
K
People
don't
like
that
idea,
but
charlotte
county
is
growing
and
charlotte
county
is
a
lot
of
why
our
taxes
are
low.
It's
because
people
come
from
other
parts
of
the
county
and
from
the
tri-county
region
to
patronize
our
city.
If
we
allow
our
city
to
deteriorate
to
the
point
where
no
longer
a
viable
historic
downtown,
they
will
go
to
places
closer
to
them
because
westport
is
growing,
murdoch
village
is
growing,
wildland
park
is
growing,
sunset
is
growing,
promenades
is
growing
all
these
bobcats
all
these
places,
which
we
had
the
monopoly
on
the
nice
historic
downtown.
K
If
we
do
not
do
our
job
and
bring
our
downtown
back,
our
residents
are
going
to
pay
in
increasing
taxes,
taxes,
taxes
and
then
see.
That's
the
part
we
don't
want
to
say.
The
result
of
our
action
still
will
determine
whether
or
not
where
are
people
going
to
be
able
to
maintain
a
fixed
income
of
a
nice
comfortable
life
or
an
exponential
rate
because
we're
looking
at
this
year
we
had
a
28
increase
in
appreciation
of
our
property.
K
You
add
that
18
tax
increase,
that's
real
money
and
we
have
to
keep
increasing
taxes
because
we're
not
understanding
the
architecture
is
the
heartbeat
of
our
city.
We
are
pretty
much
dooming
our
either
our
residents
we're
going
to
pay
extraditional
taxes
or
we're
going
to
bankrupt
the
city,
but
it's
going
to
be
all
based
on
our
votes,
based
on
our
ldrs.
B
I
don't
think
anybody
is
saying
that
puna
gorda
isn't
aesthetically
pleasing
right
now,
when
you
say
architectural,
I
always
think
of
aesthetics
architectural.
The
lay
the
way
that
it
looks.
What
I'm
hearing
is
that
from
the
residents
is
heightened
parking
that
that's
really
the
only
concerns
I
am
hearing
from
the
residents
height
parking
when
I'm
hearing
from
you
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong
is
you're,
saying
that
if
we
don't
allow
height,
we
will
not
have
any
any
any
advancement
or
but.
K
Not
higher
than
anything
we
have
now
see
when
people
say
hi,
we
say
feet,
we
have
to
show
pictures
and
part
of
this
process.
We
do
a
better
job
of
is.
We
need
to
actually
show
what
it
looks
like
nothing,
I'm
saying
is
going
anything,
but
what
we
exist,
there's
nothing
that'll
exceed
the
skyline.
We
have
right
now.
What
I'm
saying
is
that
we
have
to
actually
beat
what
we
have
and
historically
pineagra
actually
had
buildings.
K
K
No,
no,
we
we
have
restaurant
row,
we
don't
have
a
downtown
our
restaurant.
Our
residents
do
not
spend
majority
of
their
money
on
goods
and
services
in
our
downtown.
They
spend
most
of
it
everywhere
else,
and
it's
very
important
for
our
sustainability
that
our
residents
spend
their
money
in
our
town.
H
H
What
does
the
majority
of
the
council
want
to
see
so
that
we
can
then
define
that
specifically
put
it
in
draft
2?
Do
the
code
testing
make
sure
everyone,
or
the
majority
is
happy
with
that
and
move
forward?
And
if
it's
180
feet,
then
that's
what
the
majority
wants,
we'll
put
it
on
paper
and
we'll
move
forward
if
it's
60
feet
and
that's
what
the
majority
wants,
we'll
put
it
on
paper
and
move
forward.
H
But
it's
coming
down
to
the
point
where
we
know
what
everyone
has
said
and
we
know
what
everyone's
going
to
say
again.
So
we
need
specific
direction
from
a
majority,
and
I
don't
mean
today
by
any
means
because
way
too
much
to
still
discuss.
We
have
to
discuss
parking.
We
have
to
discuss
how
that
parking
impacts
any
of
the
height
or
even
architecture
any
of
these
things,
but
we're
still
going
to
need
from
a
management
perspective.
H
You
know
at
least
60
percent
of
the
elected
officials
to
say
here's
where
we're
going
end
of
story.
Stop
the
conversation
put
it
on
paper,
go
through
the
testing
process
and
move
forward
because
we're
gonna.
We
know
what
we're
gonna
hear.
We've
heard
it,
as
you
said
many
many
many
times
already,
so
it
gets
to
a
point
where
we
have
to
bite
the
bullet
and
make
that
happen.
A
I
think,
with
regards
to
the
height,
if
I
may
just
comment
on
that,
I
I
don't
have
the
problem
with
the
current
height
being
60
feet
plus
plus
that's
what's
been
in
place
for
years,
and
we
have
never
had
a
problem
with
it.
We've
never
had
a
problem
with
it.
What
I
have
a
problem
with
is
at
giving
a
height
allowance
for
as
a
community
benefit.
A
That's
what
I
have
the
problem
with,
because
you're
potentially
going
to
add
another
20
feet
onto
any
building
being
built
in
the
city
center
downtown,
and
I
don't
see
that
that
is
something
we
have
to
have.
I
just
don't
see
it,
it's
not
what
the
residents
have
want
have
told
us
they
want
month
and
month
and
month
and
month
and
year
later.
A
This
is
this
is
listening
to
the
people
who
live
here
and
pay
taxes
and
pay
our
salaries
and
I'm
sorry,
but
that's
I'm
going
to
hold
firm
on
that.
I'm
never
going
to
change
my
opinion
on
that,
and-
and
this
is
this-
is
just
not
even
this-
it's
not
right.
I
would
almost.
I
would
almost
suggest
that
it
become
a
ballot
item
and
let
the
residents
decide
what
they
want.
D
A
Know
how
many
please
I
I
just
I'm-
I'm
just
so
upset
about
this,
because
I
have
listened
for
six
years.
I've
absolutely
listened
to
thousands
of
residents
talked
to
me
for
the
last
six
years,
and
this
is
not
it's
not
okay.
With
me,
this
community
benefits
idea
is
horrible.
It's
not
clearly
defined.
It's
not
clearly
outlined,
what's
included
in
it
and
you're
talking
now
you're
going
to
give
people
20
20
feet
on
top
of
a
building.
I
don't
see
the
need
for
it.
A
H
J
A
J
To
heights
and
then
and
then
go
ahead
and
negotiate.
You
know,
I
understand
the
principle
behind
the
community
benefits.
I
I
get
what
that
is.
It
looks
a
little
like
the
city's
for
sale
to
me,
but
I
understand
from
talking
to
staff
that
that's
not
the
intent
and
I
trust
joan
because
she
told
me
that
so
my
my
concern
is
with
heights.
J
J
H
So,
for
example,
let
me
just
elaborate
a
little
bit
to
see
if
I
understand
what
you're
saying
so
right
now.
If
someone
comes
in
under
a
pd,
they
can
basically
go
to
80
feet
without
any
consideration,
because
you
have
60
and
you're
20
72,
and
then
you
have
your
bfe
and
one
foot.
So
you
know
seven
feet:
you're
79
80
feet.
H
So
if
you
had
something
that
said,
you
know
you
can
go
to
80
feet
and
if
indeed
you're
putting
20
percent
on
top
and,
of
course
you're
above
bfe.
So
you
have
to
consider
that
or
if
you're
putting
10
on
top
and
want
to
use
the
rest
in
in
another
part
of
the
building.
Still
the
maximum
that
you
have
right
now
is
80
feet,
the
maximum
you
have
under
the
new
goats
80
feet
and
the
story.
That's.
J
J
J
D
I
So
that's
another
fire
break
where
the
design
of
the
code
would
allow
for
building
heights
to
be
x,
y
and
z,
and
also
the
comprehensive
plan
and
in
order
to
change
both
of
those
documents.
You're
looking
at
substantial
changes
to
public
policy
you're,
looking
at
a
huge
lift
for
any
private
property
owner
to
try
and
pursue
that
david.
A
K
J
J
A
Just
let
me
just
put
this
in
perspective
here.
First
of
all,
city
marketplace.
The
realtor
that
had
the
listing
put
right
on
the
listing
that
the
city
council
is
is
soon
to
be
changing
the
building
height
downtown.
That's
what
drove
the
price
of
the
property
up!
That
is
why
it's
been
for
sale
for
17
years.
It's
cheaper.
A
I'm
talking
please,
please,
I'm
going
to
put
this
in
perspective
for
you,
the
panchorda
waterfront
hotel
61
feet
the
four
points
sheraton
61
feet:
the
sun
loft
center
61
feet
the
wyvern
hotel
61
feet
the
marriott
spring
hill
suites
59
feet.
You
can't
possibly
tell
me
we
need
a
hundred
foot
building
next
to
all
of
these
properties.
You
can't
it's
not
going
to
be
in
sync
with
the
rest
of
the
city.
A
H
B
D
D
B
I
H
D
J
B
I
D
B
D
B
K
Yeah
I
mean
if
we
actually
do
a
viable
plan
where
we
have
our
balance
between
height
density
and
parking.
These
things
will
be
built
and
it
will
be
built
so,
which
means
that
it's
not
going
to
be
able
to
come
after
the
fact
and
like
do
something
else,
because
it'll
something
will
be
there
right
now.
We
just
have
vacant
lots.
A
And
I'd
also
like
to
say
that
the
medical
overlay
district
is
a
completely
different
zoning
district
and
I
would
not
have
a
problem
with
adding
additional
height
there,
because
it's
a
lot
less
residential,
it's
a
lot
less
congested
than
the
city
center
is,
and
it's
it
would
be
in
in
sync,
with
some
of
the
other
buildings
that
are
already
east
of
41..
So
you
know
that's
a
whole
different
zoning
classification
in
itself,
and
and
what
do
we
need
a
bigger
and
better
hospital?
A
Absolutely
would
we
want
to
see
a
bigger
and
better
building
built
there?
I
would
love
to
see
a
decent
hospital
there.
I
really
would
and
and
medical
office
buildings
are
really
important
to
the
residents
of
this
city.
Let's
face
it
over
65
percent
of
our
residents
are
seniors.
We
need
to
have
good
medical
care
here.
That's
not
the
city
center.
A
city
center's
got
to
be
in
sync
with
what's
around
it
and
and
and
have
it
be
compatible
and
by
the
way,
the
city's
not
going
bankrupt.
A
We're
you
know
we're
not
we're,
not
destitute
and
we're
not
losing
people
moving
here,
because
we
don't
have
something
built
on
the
marketplace
property
if
the
people
are
moving
here
by
the
thousands
every
month.
It's
it's
ridiculous.
How
many
building
permits
we
have,
but,
but
I
just
I
think
we
need
to
be
reasonable
about
this,
and
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
what
the
residents
have
been
telling
us
over
and
over
and
over
and
over
again,
and
that's
concerning
to
me
that
we're
not
all
listening
to
that.
You
know.
A
K
Just
as
many
on
the
other
side,
especially
people
who've,
been
here
for
a
long
time
who
want
their
city
to
thrive
and
again
you
look
at
the
justice
center
that
we
keep
acting
like
it
doesn't
exist.
That's
an
example
of
what
we're
talking
about,
but
again
the
whole
deal.
It's
it's
not
like.
People
are
just
shooting
for
heights.
It's
that
balance
between
density,
height
and
parking.
That
makes
a
viable
project.
K
The
thing
we
have
to
do
is
make
sure
that
we
don't
price
the
city
out
as
we
are
now,
because
again
we
are
below
the
threshold
for
what
we
need
to
have
in
reserves,
precisely
because
of
our
votes.
The
whole
point
is
why
we
went
for
having
a
form-based
code
is
because
now
we're
going
to
actually
have
something
that
our
residents
actually
like
to
see
and
see
part
of
it
is
we
like
saying
you
know
these
height
numbers
and
all
that?
K
That's
not
it
if
it
has
the
look
that
our
residents
like
it's,
the
look
of
residents
like
and
it'll,
be
the
height
and
density
which
it
is,
and
I
think
that's
the
important
part
is
we're
just
saying
arbitrary
numbers.
There
is
a
calculation
and
the
whole
point
we're
going
to
get
to
is
that
we
want
to
have
a
form-based
code,
that
our
city
looks
like
punta
gorda
and
does
not
come
outside
of
that
architectural
look,
that's
our
goal.
J
Well,
I
would
like,
if
I
may,
to
direct
city
staff
to
put
something
in
this,
that
assures
me
that
the
murals
will
go
on,
because
what
I
see
there
now
does
not-
and
I've
been
told
three
or
four
times
over
the
past
four
years,
that
you
understand
my
concern
and
you'll
take
care
of
it.
Well
take
care
of
it.
Please.
H
H
J
H
J
J
J
H
I
D
Sorry,
in
order
to
do
that,
they
had
to
make
a
commitment
to
allow
for
the
the
mural
to
be
there.
But
then
his
next
question
would
become
would
be
all
right.
Well,
given
the
fact
that
there's
some
longevity
associated
with
the
murals
and
the
building
will
not
be
responsible
for
maintaining
it,
and
hopefully
the
mural
society
will
take
on
that
responsibility.
J
D
D
I
If
I
may
so
from
a
co-con
perspective,
we
have
a
list
of
features
that
could
be
used
in
an
area
if
no
window
or
door
opening
is
appropriate.
Given
the
interior
layout
of
the
building,
we
can
just
add
public
art
to
that
list
of
things
that
is
allowed
to
cover
that
space
if
public,
art
or
other
architectural
features
that
are
compliant
with
the
code
are
not
installed
at
the
time
of
final
inspection,
then
the
building
would
not
pass.
I
They
would
have
to
do
something
before
they
could
get
a
certificate
of
occupancy
in
the
long
run,
because
that
that
space,
that
public
art
is
a
code
requirement.
If
it
were
to
degrade
or
go
away,
it
would
be
subject
to
action
through
code
enforcement.
So,
from
a
longevity
perspective
you
would
be
covered
from.
We
don't
have
to
get
into
the
muddy
details
at
a
staff
level.
Just
saying
that
this
is
one
of
the
require.
This
is
one
of
the
permitted
things
to
go
on
that
blank
space,
we're
covered.
A
J
A
I
A
I
A
I
The
the
jones
loop
area
is
covered
by
the
interchange
overlay
that
city
council
adopted
before
we
started
this
process,
so
that
area
is
covered.
All
we're
talking
about
is
highway.
Commercial
is
the
area
south
of
excuse
me.
Excuse
me,
south
of
airport,
road,
okay
down
to
the
southern
end
of
the
city,
along
the
us-41
and.
A
There
is
a
ton
of
property,
that's
undeveloped,
on
that
corridor
and
a
lot
of
those
properties
are
going
to
want
to
annex
into
the
city.
So
let's
get
that
fixed
before
get
before.
We
have
to
deal
with
it
with
a
with
another
applicant,
because
I
think
that's
going
to
be
a
really
critical
issue
for
a
lot
of
people
who
want
to
build
a
brick
and
mortar
store.
H
So
with
that
architectural
detail,
article
7
and
any
accompanying
changes,
we
move
that
forward.
We
talk
about
the
remaining
articles,
which
are
parking
specifically
that's
the
big
one
and
how,
instead
of
one
space
per
unit,
if
it's
two
three
four,
what
that
may
do
to
space
requirements,
site
design,
planning,
etc.
H
H
Prepare
the
second
draft,
get
that
to
the
public
start
doing
the
code.
Testing
get
all
that
finalized
in
a
time
frame
that
allows
us
to
meet
some
of
the
other
criteria
like
we
now
have
to
resurrect
the
comp
plan
completely,
and
we
have
to
get
that
finished,
and
I
mean
to
your
comment
about
not
wanting
to
leave
it
undone.
When
you
leave
office
again
from
a
management
perspective,
I'm
not
sure
we
have
time
to
leave
it
undone
until.
E
I
J
K
A
The
builders
need
to
be
incorporated
into
this
again
and
have
it
be
more
of
a
public
forum,
because
the
last
time
you
guys
met
with
them.
It
was
more
of
a
private
meeting
and
I
would
like
to
see
that
be
a
public
forum
where
the
council
members
could
sit
in
and
just
listen,
not
participate,
but
listen
just
like
we
did
at
the
canal
maintenance
meeting
the
other
night.
If
you
don't
think
the
citizens
in
the
city
have
a
lot
to
say,
you
should
have
been
at
that
meeting.
H
And
there
is
another
side
that
we're
looking
at
routinely
and
that
is
that
you
know
with
all
the
vacant
properties
we're
routinely
getting
inquiries.
Well,
what's
the
schedule
for
the
new
codes
we're
under
the
old
codes?
What
about
the
new
ones?
And
you
talk
about
city
marketplace-
I
mean
someone
could
literally
come
in
tomorrow
if
it
was
able
to
be
sold
and
they
could
put
up
something
that
you
don't
like,
without
any
permission
from
city
council
just
based
on
50
foot,
20
percent
and
base
flood
elevation
and
kind
of
have
a
square
box
sitting
there.
H
E
A
H
Again,
just
thank
you
for
your
tolerance
and
indulgence
in
these
discussions.
They
are
very
important
as
we
move
forward,
and
you
know
we'll
get
to
the
end
of
the
day
and
we'll
have
something
in
there.
That's
acceptable
that
we
can
move
forward
with,
so
I
don't
really
have
anything
other
than
that
other
than
we
are
moving
forward
with
a
lot
of
projects.
H
H
H
You
know
under
control
yard
waste
has
to
wait
a
little
bit
in
the
last
month
or
so
because
of
the
above
mentioned
issues
we're
working
on
it
feverishly
and
we're
not
reducing
service,
and
we
do
catch
up.
It
just
may
be
to
the
weekends
or
you
know,
overtime
periods
where
that
catch-up
occurs.
So
if
you
see
that
happening,
especially
knowing
that
people
put
their
yard
waste
out
and
they
set
it
on
their
lawns
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
we
understand
the
urgency
of
it
and
are
continuing
to
try
to
rectify
the
problem.
D
B
Obviously
the
city's
been
very
busy
with
a
variety
of
different
events
that
will
be
coming
up,
but
just
highlighting
that
they're
gonna
have
their
first
annual
pickleball
poker
challenge
on
may
18th,
six
to
eight
at
the
pickleplex,
and
it
doesn't
matter
how
well
you
play.
It
depends
on
your
poker
hands,
there's
more
information
on
the
pontegorda
chamber,
facebook
or
their
website,
then
also
sitting
on
the
excuse
me
lost
my
train
of
thought,
charlotte
harbor,
environmental
center.
They
are
going
to
be
doing
a
summer
camp
in
2022.
J
I
attended
a,
I
guess,
you'd
call
it
a
seminar
on
friday
morning
about
the
housing
situation
and
how
it's
affecting
staffing,
the
sheriff's
department
is
losing
people.
Our
police
department
is
losing
people
as
greg
just
mentioned.
City
is
losing
people
and
the
primary
reason
that
they
are
leaving
is
they
can
make
six
to
eight
dollars
an
hour
more
in
the
counties
north
and
south
of
us,
and
they
can
afford
to
live
there
with
that
six
to
eight
dollars
an
hour
more
and
they
just
can't
make
it
here
so.
J
J
K
A
Great
thank
you
from
my
perspective,
the
metropolitan
planning
organization
that
I
sit
on.
We
have
a
meeting
coming
up
next
monday
and
we'll
be
talking
about
a
lot
of
the
fdot
issues
that
are
going
on
the
city,
manager
and
urban
design
director
and
I
met
with
fdot
staff
a
couple
of
weeks
back
to
talk
about
all
the
proposed
changes
on
41
from
the
bridges
south,
and
there
are
many
so
we
expressed
our
concerns
and
they
shared
their
comments
on
a
lot
of
the
issues.
A
I
just
got
a
copy
of
the
minutes
from
the
meeting.
I
will
send
those
to
greg
to
forward
to
all
of
you,
so
you
have
a
copy
of
what
was
discussed
at
that
meeting,
because
I
think
it's
important
that
you
all
know
what's
going
on
and
from
their
perspective,
what
they
think.
The
reasons
are
for
their
justification
for
doing
things
southwest
florida
league
of
cities.
We
have
the
upcoming
meeting
on
may
19th.
How
many
of
you
would
like
to
go
to
that?
I
know
you
said
you
can't
right.
A
A
We
did
go
to
the
session.
That
was
at
the
the
hotel,
crown
plaza
hotel.
Think
about
it
for
a
minute
crown
plaza
hotel
in
fort
myers
two
months
ago,
and
the
speaker
was
the
president
of
florida
league
of
cities
and
he
talked
about
all
the
legislative
ideas
that
happened
at
the
legislative
session
and
florida
league
of
cities
position
on
a
lot
of
those
agenda
items.
A
A
We
we
have
new
people
representing
us,
jerry
paul,
is
no
longer
around
he's,
moved
up
to
maine
and
roe
from
his
office
is
now
working
for
the
new
consulting
firm
and
I
felt
very
encouraged
and
energized,
and
there
was
we
had
a
more
than
a
two-hour
meeting
with
them
and
it
was
really
refreshing.
I
guess
is
the
best
word
I
can
come
up
with.
A
A
So
there,
the
governor
has
requested
a
special
meeting
of
the
legislature
and
they're
all
headed
up
to
tallahassee.
Shortly
to
do
that
and
we
we
now
have
a
new
district
representative
in
the
house,
which
is
spencer
roach.
He
was
previously
limited
to
lee
county
and
now
he's
going
to
be
taking
over
the
south
part
of
charlotte
county
we've
had
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
him
a
couple
of
different
times
and
he's
also
very
refreshing
and
mike
grant
will
still
be
around
and
he's
been
very
supportive
of
us
and
very
grateful
for
all
of
his
help.
A
But
he
is
moving.
His
territory
has
gotten
shifted
because
of
redistricting,
and
so
spencer.
Roach
will
be
our
immediate
go-to
guy
and
I
will,
at
one
point
or
another:
have
him
come
and
introduce
himself
to
the
council
at
a
future
meeting
when
they
get
done
with
all
the
legislative
sessions
that
they've
got
to
go
through,
and
I
also
I
want
to
talk
about
it
when
we
do
our
individual
council
member
comments
go
ahead.
You
have
council
member
comments.
Oh.
K
Yes,
a
fun
thing.
I
mentioned
it
last
time.
The
cultural
heritage
center
and
fisherman's
village
are
having
the
second
annual
day
of
celtic
music
next
saturday,
the
14th
of
may.
So
we
have
like
some
of
the.
We
have
seven
nations
and
burn
brothers.
It's
gonna
be
a
big
deal,
so
it'll
go
from
12
to
eight
and
then,
of
course,
after
that
to
the
celtic
grain.
B
J
A
A
We've
received
some
comments
from
residents
and
they
were
very,
very,
very
quick
to
respond
to
the
residents
to
the
point
where
dan
casselberry
actually
came
to
punta
gorda
from
california
last
week
and
went
and
knocked
on
doors
to
introduce
himself
and
to
apologize
to
the
residents
for
any
inconvenience
that
may
be
caused
in
their
neighborhood
because
of
the
construction
and
he
he
knocked
down
one
person's
door
and
they
said
wait.
Who
did
you
say
you
were?
Oh
we're,
fine,
we're
fine,
you
answered
our
email,
we're
good
and
I'm
like
okay,
so
anyway.
A
Suffice
it
to
say
they
want
to
be
good,
neighbors,
they're
going
to
be
here
for
the
long
term
and
they've
been
very,
very,
very
responsive.
I
think
they're
going
to
be
great
for
our
city,
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
going
on
with
the
the
pending
rip-rap
mitigation
for
the
sea
wall
project
from
hurricane
irma,
we're
still
waiting
on
a
federal
permit.
A
I
just
want
to
let
you
guys
know
that
greg
and
I
talked
about
this
the
other
day
and
we
would
like
to
cooperatively
write
a
letter
to
congressman
stubey
and
probably
the
senators
from
the
state
of
florida
to
ask
for
their
support
to
try
to
get
the
permitting
done
so
that
we
can
move
that
project
forward.
We've
got
eight
million
dollars
sitting
in
limbo,
that's
grant
money
from
fema
and
they're
asking
us
when
we're
going
to
do
the
project.
So
we.
A
A
I
also
would
like
to
write
a
letter
to
the
florida
legislature
on
our
behalf,
if
you're,
okay
with
it
and
express
our
concerns
about
the
the
house
insurance
issues
that
we're
facing
before
the
legislature
goes
into
session,
so
we
we
can
write
that
this
week
tell
you
about
the
assisted
living.
Oh,
I
have
a
new
video
that
I'll
share
with
you
from
the
assisted
living
project.
A
That's
going
to
go
in
the
newsletters
this
week,
but
I'll
forward
that
to
all
of
you,
so
you
have
it
so
you
can
see
where
the
construction
looks
like
right
now
and
believe
me.
They
have
cleaned
that
site
up.
You
would
never
know
it's
a
construction
site
at
this
point.
It's
like
meticulous
and
I'd
like
to
just
call
out
thanks
to
the
the
green
thumbs
and
team
ponte
gorda
and
the
garden
club
for
the
america
and
bloom
visitors
we
had
here.
Last
week
it
was
a
great
visit.
A
They
gave
a
special
award
at
the
end
of
their
visit
to
the
history
park
and
veterans
park
for
all
the
gardens
and
the
beautiful
greenery
that
has
been
planted,
and
they
were
very,
very
pleased
with
us
we'll
we
won't
find
out
for
a
few
months
who
wins
the
competition,
but
it
was.
It
was
really
nice
to
meet
them
and
to
have
them
come
through
the
cities.
A
We
gave
them
a
presentation
here
at
city
hall,
they
went
to
the
military
heritage
museum,
they
went
to
fisherman's
village,
they
went
to
history
park
veterans
park,
they
were
all
over
the
city
and
they
were
very
impressed
with
all
the
volunteerism
in
the
city
it
was.
It
was
very,
very
highly
noted
that
our
city
is
a
world
of
volunteers
and
we're
grateful
for
all
of
that,
and
that's
all.
B
J
The
amount
of
money
raised
by
nonprofits
in
the
city
of
punta
gorda
and
port
charlotte
county
would
astound
you.
It
was
well
over
two
million
dollars
and
yeah
that
that
is
phenomenal.
As
I
put
in
my
newsletter
every
time,
a
non-profit
in
our
city
gets
money
towards
something,
that's
that
much
money
that
the
city
doesn't
have
to
spend,
but
the
service
still
gets
provided,
and
so
I
am
so
grateful
to
everybody
who
contributed
to
the
giving
challenge.
It
was
amazing
and
your
military
history,
museum
boy.
Did
you
guys
clean
up?
We
did.