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From YouTube: Regular City Council Meeting 9-7-2022
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Regular City Council Meeting 9-7-2022
B
There
we
go
okay,
good
morning,
it's
nine
o'clock
and
I
would
like
to
call
to
order
the
september
7th,
2022
city
council
meeting.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
all
city,
council,
members
and
city
officials
are
present.
If
you'd.
Please
stand
and
join
me
for
the
invocation,
followed
by
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
C
C
But
we're
more
thankful
that
you
give
to
us
the
ability
to
function
and
live
life
here
on
this
earth.
We
are
thankful
for
those
that
have
are
and
will
protect
our
freedom
and
our
well-being,
as
we
live
life
here
in
this
city
in
this
nation
and
in
this
world.
Thank
you
for
all
our
first
responders
that
continue
to
watch
out
for
our
safety
and
thank
you
for
your
presence
here
in
this
meeting
and
throughout
this
day,
in
the
name
of
your
son,
jesus.
A
B
B
My
turn
in
the
box.
He
says
right,
okay,
so
I
will
read
this
proclamation
from
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida,
whereas
mark
kucharski
will
celebrate
his
birthday
on
september,
10,
2022
and
whereas
mark
was
born
in
minneapolis,
grew
up
in
new
york
city
and
returned
to
minneapolis
to
attend
the
university
of
minnesota,
where
he
earned
a
bachelor
of
arts.
B
Degree
in
economics
and
political
science
and
whereas
after
graduation
mark
began
a
37-year
career
in
the
automotive
industry
during
which
he
and
his
wife
debbie
moved
12
times
due
to
corporate
relocations
and
whereas
mark
and
debbie
retired,
to
punta
gorda
in
2017,
with
their
siberian
husky
fur.
Kids,
nika
and
kaya
mark
immediately
joined
the
aisle
yacht
club
and
became
an
active
member
in
the
community.
B
He
served
on
the
punta
gorda
isles
canal
advisory
committee
for
a
couple
of
years
before
becoming
a
candidate
and
was
and
being
elected
to
serve
on
city
council
representing
district
3
in
2021,
whereas
during
his
first
year
of
service
mark,
has
demonstrated
his
dedication
and
commitment
to
serving
the
citizens
of
punta
gorda
and
to
upholding
the
city's
mission
to
be
the
most
desirable
place
to
live,
work
and
visit,
and
whereas
it
is
truly
a
pleasure
to
honor
mark
kucharski
and
to
extend
to
him
our
best
wishes
on
the
celebration
of
his
birthday.
Now.
B
E
So
I
was
going
to
point
out
some
notable
facts
about
september
10th
like
it's
the
peak
day
of
hurricane
season
or
it's
the
day,
hurricanes,
irma
and
donna
paid
his
visits,
or
it
was
the
last
innocent
day
before
9
11.,
but
instead
I'd
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
comment
on
something
much
more
relevant
and
immediate
than
my
birthday
at
almost
every
council
meeting,
and
in
fact,
at
many
committee
meetings,
we
conduct
quasi-judicial
hearings
most
of
the
time.
These
are
simple,
uneventful
proceedings.
E
B
E
And
whereas
community
organizations
and
family
members
of
9
11
victims
began
observing
the
anniversary
of
911
as
a
charitable
service
day
to
honor
the
memory
of
those
who
were
lost
and
those
who
united
in
response
to
the
tragedy,
including
first
responders
and
volunteers,
and
whereas
the
serve
america
act,
approved
by
congress
and
enacted
into
law.
On
april
21,
2009
directed
september
11th
to
be
observed
and
recognized
as
an
annual
day
of
service
and
remembrance
and
charge.
E
The
corporation
for
national
and
community
service,
now
known
as
americorps
with
leading
this
nationwide
effort
and
whereas
participating
in
service
and
remembrance
activities
on
911
is
a
positive
and
respectful
way
to
remember
the
lives
of
those
lost
and
pay
tribute
to
those
who
rose
at
service
and
honor.
Those
who
continue
to
serve
our
country
today,
including
active
duty
and
reserve
soldiers
and
their
families
veterans
and
first
responders.
E
Now.
Therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
pontogorda
florida
does
hereby
proclaim
september,
11
2022
as
a
national
day
of
service
and
remembrance,
and
calls
upon
the
people
of
punta
gorda
to
honor
the
lives
of
those
lost
through
participation
in
community
service
and
remembrance
ceremonies.
On
this
day
and
throughout
the
year
passed
and
duly
adopted
in
regular
session.
The
seventh
day
of
september
2022
signed
leonard
matthews
mayor
and
accepting
will
be
chiefs,
davis
and
gibbs.
C
C
Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
does
hereby
proclaim
that
september.
22Nd
2022
shall
be
known
as
american
business
women's
day
in
salute
to
more
than
the
40
000
abwa
members
for
their
efforts
towards
opening
doors
of
educational
opportunity,
past
and
duly
adopted
in
regular
session.
The
seventh
day
of
september
2022
city
city
of
puna,
gorda
florida
signed
lynn,
r,
matthews
mayor
and
accepting
is
deidre
gaynor
peterson.
H
D
Now.
Therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
pontogora
florida
does
hereby
proclaim
that
period
september
17th
to
23rd
2022
shall
be
known
as
constitution
week
in
the
city
of
hunter.
Gordon
urges
citizens
to
reaffirm
the
ideals
that
the
framers
of
the
constitution
had
in
1797
by
vigilantly,
projecting
the
freedoms
guaranteed
to
us
through
this
guardian
in
our
liberties,
remembering
that
lost
rights
may
never
be
regained
passed
until
they
adopted
in
regular
recession
seventh
day
of
september,
signed
by
our
mayor,
lynn,
matthews
and
I'm
intermittent
miss
debbie
harrington.
I
B
B
B
The
podium
to
the
right
of
the
stage
is
for
staff
and
applicant
presentations
only
speak
directly
into
the
microphone,
and
please
do
speak
close
to
the
microphone,
because
these
are
very
sensitive
and
if
you
don't
talk
directly
to
it,
your
voice
will
not
be
picked
up
on
the
recording
state,
your
name
for
the
record,
and
if
it
is
a
quasi-judicial
hearing,
you
will
also
need
to
state
that
you
have
been
sworn
in.
There
will
be
a
period
that
we
swear
in
all
the
people
who
wish
to
speak
during
those
those
public
hearings.
B
Each
person
will
have
three
minutes
to
speak
and
sharing
minutes
is
not
permitted.
Speakers
are
to
direct
all
comments
to
the
city
council.
Only
not
the
audience
or
any
one.
Individual
council
member
discussion
between
speakers
and
members
of
the
audience
is
not
permitted
when
there
are
many
individuals
who
wish
to
speak.
Speakers
should
try
not
to
reiterate
lengthy
comments
made
by
others
to
ensure
an
effective
and
efficient
meeting.
This
ensures
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
speak
audience
and
speakers
will
be
courteous
in
their
language
and
presentation.
B
No
applause
booing
jeering,
sidebar
conversations
before
during
or
after
each
speaker.
Please
refrain
from
talking
in
the
audience
during
the
meeting.
A
copy
of
any
supporting
documents
displayed
during
the
meeting
must
be
provided
to
the
city
clerk,
and
these
documents
will
become
part
of
the
permanent
record
and
will
be
retained
by
the
clerk's
office.
The
citizen
comments
portion
of
the
meeting
is
not
intended
to
be
a
question
and
answer
session.
This
is
for
citizen
comments.
B
Only
council
members
should
refrain
from
answering
impromptu
questions
or
excuse
me
debating
issues
with
members
of
the
public,
and
with
that
we
will
open
up
the
floor
for
public
comments.
If
there's
anyone
in
the
audience
that
wishes
to
address
counsel
on
any
issue,
please
come
forward
and
state
your
name
for
the
record,
and
you
will
have
three
minutes.
C
These
are
just
some
random
thoughts
in
12
years
from
now,
you
won't
be
able
to
buy
a
gas
powered
vehicle
in
california.
It
seems
to
me
that
walkability
is
an
important
issue.
We
have
a
chance
to
to
facilitate
in
this
town
with
golf
carts,
they're
called
navs.
Now
neighborhood
electric
vehicles
would
be
a
great
fit
for
people
who
live
on
the.
Could
you
put.
C
Would
be
a
great
fit
for
people
who
live
on
the
isles
to
be
able
to
come
in
it
would
double
your
parking
spaces.
You
can
fit
two
in
a
compact
space.
That
means
you
would
have
800
parking
spaces
instead
of
400
livability
in
work
and
and
to
be
where
they
are
in
charlotte
county.
The
mall
is
planning
to
build
apartments
overnight.
C
I
know
we're
not
discussing
that,
but
to
make
this
a
center
for
where
people
are
coming
in
to
be.
We
have
to
face
that
fact.
The
the
state
and
the
federal
government
will
soon
change
over
from
gas
powered
cars,
and
we
have
experience
on
the
council
of
people
who
are
in
who've
been
in
this
business
I
think,
would
be
a
great
idea.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
We're
having
technical
difficulties
with
our
timer
is
there
anyone
else
that
would
like
to
address
council
on
any
issue
before
us
or
anything
else
this
morning,
okay,
seeing
no
one
coming
forward.
We
will
at
this
time
open
the
floor
if
there
are
any
people
in
the
audience
who
have
put
their
resume
in
for
a
border
committee
seat,
you
may
come
to
the
podium
and
introduce
yourself
to
the
council
and
you'll
have
three
minutes.
C
H
F
C
G
I
C
C
B
B
A
B
B
F
J
Yes,
thank
you
mayor
the
municipal
marina
activity
just
to
go
over
quickly.
You'll
see
that
on
our
annual
and
semi-annuals
were
generally
consistent
with
last
year,
you'll
see
slightly
less
annuals
this
month.
Our
transients
are
higher.
Our
commercials
stay
steady
at
14,
of
course,
and
the
moorings
we
have
13
that
are
on
the
mooring
balls
and
you
can
see
as
you
go
down
peace,
river
and
then,
of
course,
into
the
harbor
that
there's
a
lot
of
boats
that
are
anchored
out
there
on
the
mooring,
balls
and
west
of
the
mooring
field
as
well.
J
The
liveaboards
you'll
see
a
smaller
number
on
liveaboards
that
will
continue
as
they
transition
out
with
the
six
month
periods,
and
we
anticipate
that
we'll
start
to
see
more
picking
up
on
the
monthly
semi-annual
and
annual
rentals
and
less
on
the
liveaboards,
given
the
restrictions
with
our
submerged
land
lease,
so
that
will
probably
not
come
back
up
to
the
previous
levels
that
we've
seen,
but
we'll
see
them
in
other
areas.
Using
those
slips.
J
Of
course,
our
community
room
we're
getting
more
use
out
of
the
community
rooms.
Things
have
opened
back
up
and
it
appears
that
that
room
is
very
well
suited
for
a
lot
of
the
smaller
events
and
even
some
of
the
larger
ones,
depending
on
how
many
tables
are
needed
that
people
are
using.
So
as
we
look
at
our
pump
out
vessel,
we
have
almost
2500
gallons
again
for
the
pump
out
vessel
and,
let's
see
if
I
can
find
the
right
button
about
that
so
again.
J
We're
using
that
through
a
grant
that
helps
take
the
material
off
the
boats
and
dispose
of
it
in
the
sanitary
sewer
system,
so
that
we
have
properly
treated
waste
and
we're
helping
to
protect
the
water
quality
in
charlotte
harbor.
So
we're
very
pleased
we're
able
to
do
that
at
no
cost
to
the
boaters
that
use
the
service
when
we
get
into
some
of
the
activity
for
our
projects,
the
city
hall.
Of
course,
we,
as
we
said
last
month
that
has
not
changed
we're
waiting
for
60
plans
beginning
of
october.
J
We
hope
to
have
those
plans
in
that
will
give
us
a
much
better
visual
representation
of
what
everything
is
going
to
look
like,
and
we
can
define
our
cost
as
we
move
forward
with
our
c-mark
construction
manager
at
risk
and
ensure
that
the
project
and
cost
is
on
track
with
what
we
anticipate.
So
we're
looking
forward
to
that
coming
in
that
will
provide
not
only
the
ability
for
future
growth
well
into
the
future,
but
also
amenities
and
services
in
council,
chamber
and
city
hall.
That
will
greatly
benefit
the
public
guild
crest
park.
J
J
So
the
project
is
really
moving
and
we
can
see
it
continue
to
move
towards
the
upper
end
of
the
project
towards
a
boat
club
and
we're
really
looking
forward
to
that
continuing
and
being
completed
depending
on
weather
and
materials.
Of
course,
in
the
near
future.
It's
certainly
something
that's
made
a
difference
in
the
ability
to
use
the
park
and
have
nice
amenities
there
for
again
for
the
public.
J
J
They
have
45
days
to
really
give
us
that,
yes
or
no,
we
anticipate
that
they
would
approve
that,
but
during
that
time
we'll
be
looking
at
total
funding
sources,
use
of
the
property,
any
supplemental
funding
sources
that
people
propose,
such
as
fundraising,
historic
preservation,
groups,
etc,
and
then
that
will
come
back
to
council.
So
we
can
discuss
the
scope
of
the
project.
Will
it
be,
as
was
proposed
when
we
had
the
set
of
plans?
J
Most
recently
looked
at
that
had
the
exterior
restrooms
in
a
full-scale
renovation
will
be
something
less
what
monies
will
be
used
if
it
is
so
that
we
have
enough
money?
All
those
decision
points
that
will
need
to
be
made
to
move
the
project
forward
will
be
coming
back
to
council
before
the
project
continues
right.
Now
we're
going
to
see
if
it's
listed
on
the
national
register
and
then
we'll
know
exactly
what
parameters
we're
working
within
and
then,
when
we
come
to
lashley
park,
splash
pad
much
awaited
amenity
in
lashley
park.
J
We're
certainly
seeing
a
lot
of
use
in
that
splash
pad,
even
as
it
currently
exists
each
weekend
you
go
over
and
there's
a
lot
of
kids
and
adults
playing
in
the
fountain,
but
the
contractor
is
now
reviewing
the
agreement.
We're
looking
at
the
schedules
with
the
subs.
When
can
we
get
concrete?
When
can
we
get
the
material
that's
needed
to
start
so
we'll
be
bringing
that
in
for
final
approval
and
the
approval
to
begin
construction
in
the
very
near
future
for
city
councils?
B
I
Good
morning,
lisa
hannah
zoning
official.
This
is
being
brought
before
you
in
the
capacity
of
a
zoning
verification
request.
The
property
is
zoned
public.
Therefore,
city
council
needs
to
determine
if
the
proposed
uses
are
consistent
with
the
intent
of
the
land
development
regulations
and
it
and
it
meets
the
vision
of
the
cra.
B
B
K
K
The
people
who
gave
it
to
us
approved
it
becoming
a
library
when
the
county
took
the
other
property,
they
advised,
I
guess
they
weren't
around
anymore,
but
whatever
we
should.
In
my
opinion,
we
should
have
done
more
to
get
this
property
back.
My
only
my
only
thing
that
I
want
you
all
to
think
about
is
be
very
careful
when
you
do
any.
I
For
for
clarification,
it's
just
a
zoning
verification.
No
rezoning
is
being
proposed,
since
public
does
allow
schools
and
parks,
playgrounds,
public
auditoriums,
other
municipality
uses,
or
things
like
that.
There
there's
no
request
to
rezone
at
this
time.
If
it
is,
then
there
are
there's
some
qualifications
that
would
have
to
go
along
with
it
because
of
the
lack
of
development
rights
to
this
property.
K
B
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
request
to
move
forward
to
the
city
council,
a
zoning
letter
for
the
proposed
use
for
424
west
henry
street
any
further
discussion.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you,
and
now
we
have
commissioner
comments
mark
anything.
K
E
D
I'll
have
more
to
share
later,
but
in
regard
to
the
expansion
of
the
blanchards
museum,
to
have
the
historic,
cockatron
business
district.
This
is
now
taking
on
some
pretty
good
wind
in
that
we're
actually
creating
a
national
trail
that
would
actually
begin
from
pinea
gorda,
so
I'll
have
more
to
share
later.
B
B
B
B
A
B
A
This
is
the
first
reading
of
a
legislative
ordinance
which
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
puente,
gorda
florida
amending
point
of
order,
code,
chapter
10
yard,
waste,
solid
waste,
article,
roman
numeral,
2,
solid
waste,
amending
section,
10-11,
increasing
the
monthly
fee
for
removal
and
disposal
of
solid
waste
yard
waste
and
curbside
recycling
services
providing
for
conflict
and
severability
and
providing
an
effective
date.
I
B
B
B
E
B
A
Yes-
and
this
is
a
resolution
which
I'll
read
by
title
only
and
it
is
quasi-judicial
because
your
decision
is
based
on
the
criteria
and
says
and
competent.
Substantial
evidence
in
the
records
demonstrates
that
satisfaction
of
that
criteria
and
just
as
a
reminder
if
you've
had
any
ex
parte
communication
regarding
this
or
any
of
the
other
quasi-judicial
hearings
before
you,
it
will
be
necessary
for
you
to
disclose
the
same
prior
to
your
decision
in
the
matter.
So
I'll
read
this
resolution
by
title.
I
I
I
I
The
second
is
the
preliminary
review,
so
the
requirements
that
there's
general
requirements
about
the
boundary
lines
existing
streets
which
were
vacated
that
the
roads
are
going
to
be
constructed
and
privately
constructed
and
maintained.
Street
names
have
been
approved
by
the
fire
marshal
and
the
zoning
official
again.
The
street
names
approved
roadway
widths
are
provided
in
the
plat,
roadway
or
right
away.
Easements
were
provided
on
the
plat
utility,
easements
are
called
out
sites,
parks
and
public
private
amenities.
I
The
parks
and
playgrounds
will
be
for
the
use
of
the
residents
the
sites
it
calls
out
for
multifamily
commercial.
This
is
a
single
family
development,
only
no
multi-family
or
commercial
is
proposed.
It
has
the
site
data
and
the
number
of
lots
provided
on
the
preliminary
plat.
The
title
scale.
North
arrow
date
have
all
been
provided.
I
I
I
The
preliminary
plat
is
in
compliance
with
chapter
28,
section
28-32,
the
property
again
was
rezoned
from
highway
commercial
to
planned
development,
village
in
2021,
and
the
streets
and
platts
were
vacated.
The
lots
meet
all
the
size
requirements
in
chapter
26,
section
5.4,
which
is
the
plan
development
section
of
the
code.
I
I
C
L
I
I
We
sent
it
right
to
the
applicant
because
it
was
technical
in
nature
for
for
our
staff.
For
me,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
it
was
like
setting
setting
the
permanent
monument
markers
and
things
like
that
things
that
won't
happen
until
actual
final
plat
is
done
until
they
get
all
the
infrastructure
in
and
they
and
they
put
in
this
put
in
the
final
monument
markers
okay.
Thank
you.
Any.
B
K
B
C
I
Foot,
I
would
have
to
ask
the
developer:
how
they're
going
to
do
it.
They
meet
the
lot
size
requirements
per
chapter,
26,
article
5,
the
plan
development.
Those
lots
can
be
for
residential
smaller
than
what
a
normal
lot
in
pentagon
aisles
are.
So
they
meet
all
those
requirements.
How
they're
going
to
design
the
houses
they
have
to
meet
our
architectural
provisions
and
setbacks.
I
B
C
C
H
G
B
B
B
A
Mayor
before
you
entertain
a
motion
on
the
matter,
just
to
make
sure
the
record
will
be
clear
if
you
are
going
to
adopt
or
the
recommendation
of
staff
to
approve,
subject
to
the
conditions
of
approval
that
staff
has
included
in
its
report.
I
would
hope
I
would
re
request
that
the
motion
so
state
okay.
B
D
B
B
B
I
Good
morning
again,
lisa
hannon's,
owning
official
and
I
have
been
sworn.
I
would
like
to
enter
our
staff
report
into
the
record
in
its
entirety
by
reference.
As
stated,
this
is
a
rezoning
request
for
402
east
marion
avenue.
The
property
is
approximately
2.73
plus
or
minus
acres
slots
1
through
40..
It
is
currently
zoned
city
center.
I
I
I
Four
point:
one
point:
one
point:
nine
point.
Two
one
point:
one
point:
nine
point:
three
one
point:
one
point:
nine
point:
five
one
point
one
point:
one
zero
point:
two
one
point
one
point:
one
one
point:
two
one
point
one
point
one
two
point
two
point:
1.1.1
1.1.1
2.3,
1.1.1,
4.4,
1.1.14.11
conservation,
element,
objective
2a,
0.1.1
policies,
2a
0.1.1.1,
2a,
0.1.1.2,
2a,
0.1.1.5,
coastal
management,
element
objectives,
2b
0.2.1,
2b,
0.1.4.4,
2b,
0.5.1.2,
infrastructure,
element,
goals,
3.2
and
3.4
objectives;
3.1.1
3.1.2,
3.2.2,
3.4.1,
3.7.2
policies,
3.1.1.1
3.1.2.3,
3.2.2.3,
3.2.2.4,.
I
Four
point:
point.
Three.
Three
point.
Seven
point.
Two
point:
three.
Three
point.
Seven
point
two
point:
four
housing
element,
objective.
Four
point:
one
point:
one
policies.
Four
point:
one
point
one
point
two
four
point:
one
point:
point:
recreation
and
open
space
element:
objective:
5.1.2
policies,
5.1.2.1
5.1.2.2,
community
facilities,
element,
objective,
6.1.1,
transportation,
element,
objective,
7.1.4,
7.3.4
policy,
7.1.1.5,
7.1.3.5,
7.1.4.2,
7.1.5.3,.
I
So
compatibility
it
is
compatible
with
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
infield
development
has
been
desired
and
promoted
by
the
city,
condition
or
not
condition.
Criteria
mitigates
conflicts
on
use
of
existing
development.
Existing
zoning
is
city
center.
The
uses
are
consistent
with
the
citizen
city
center
zoning
district.
The
project
exceeds
the
parking
requirements
by
adding
32
additional
on-street
parking
spaces.
I
I
Traffic
volumes,
marion
avenue,
has
a
level
of
service
rated
d,
its
primary
arterial,
roadway
and
staff
concurs
with
the
traffic
or
the
applicant's
traffic
statement,
preserving
ecological
sensitive
areas,
and
it
is
not
applicable
to
the
site,
mitigates
unfavorable
and
topographical,
and
geological
conditions
will
require
compliance
with
the
7th
edition
2020
of
the
florida
building
code,
the
7th
edition
2020
of
the
florida
fire
prevention
code,
the
2017
national
electric
code
and
all
flood
elevation
requirements,
staff
found
no
unfavorable
topographic
or
geological
conditions
on
the
site.
Noise
attenuation
on-site
parking
is
internal
to
the
site.
I
The
buildings
in
required
landscaping
will
buffer
any
adjacent
properties,
concurrency
requirements
roadway.
It
is
an
existing
net
road
network
and
will
meet
the
present
and
future
needs
potable
water
and
sanitary
sewer.
It
is
in
the
utility
service
area
and
was
previously
served
with
water
and
wastewater,
and
the
developer
is
required
to
provide
land
use
and
schedule
of
water
requirements
to
determine
availability
to
our
utilities.
I
Department,
storm
water
and
drainage
will
be
required
and
reviewed
at
the
time
of
development,
solid
waste,
the
county's
demo,
road
landfill
has
the
capacity
through
the
county's
2030
planning,
horizon
parks
and
recreation,
and
the
project
is
providing
a
pocket
park
open
to
the
public
between
the
two
mix
building
mixed-use
buildings
that
face
marion
avenue,
public
schools,
the
actual
request
for
a
school
concurrency
determination
letter
is
required
prior
to
development
approval
findings
increase
in
residential
dwelling
units.
It
is
entitled
to
41
residential
dwelling
units
and
it
is
requesting
60
residential
dwelling
units.
I
The
request
meets
the
criteria
in
section
5.5,
parent
b
of
the
land
development
regulations,
finding
two
economic
and
budget
analysis.
The
market
can
support
320
to
420
new
rental
units
and
300
to
750
new
condos,
finding
number
three
increase
in
height
entitled
to
60
feet
above
base.
Flood
elevation
requesting
65
feet
above
base
flood
elevation,
and
it
meets
the
required
criteria
of
section
5.3
m133
of
the
land
development
regulations.
I
Finding
number
four
provides
parking
the
proper
or
the
project
is
prepared.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
provide
two
parking
spaces
per
residential
dwelling
unit
and
the
appropriate
parking
for
the
commercial
uses
they
are
also
providing
and
constructing
at
their
costs.
The
additional
on-street
parking
along
dr
martin
luther
king,
junior
boulevard
and
milos
street
open
space.
I
It
provides
approximately
4145
square
feet
of
park
space,
as
you
can
see
in
between
the
two
buildings
that
will
be
open
to
the
public.
Finding
number
six
architecture,
it
exhibits,
architectural
treatments,
the
buildings
step
back
from
west
marion
avenue
to
the
sides
in
the
rear
and
our
our
all
architectural
requirements
will
be
reviewed.
Further
reviewed
at
time
of
the
development
review,
application
submittal,
finding
number
seven
benefits.
Higher
density
is
essential
for
creating
lively
spaces
with
amenities
utilities,
utility
improvements
required
off-site,
potentially
line
extension
and
again.
This
is
further
reviewed
at
time
of
drc
submittal
conclusions.
I
Parking
parking
plan
meets
the
parking
requirements
of
chapter
26,
article
10
of
land
development
regulations.
It
actually
exceeds
the
parking
requirements
by
proposing
32
additional
on-street
parking
spaces
along
dr
martin
luther
king,
jr,
boulevard
and
mila
street
architectural
landscape
requirements
will
be
reviewed
at
drc.
Submittal.
I
Conclusion:
five
increased
density
greatly
reduces
driving
traffic
congestion
and
vast
amounts
of
air
pollution,
and
all
utility
concerns
required
to
be
addressed
prior
to
drc
approval,
so
conditions
of
approval
from
staff
that
a
plan
development
approval
is
concept
approval
only
it
includes
the
concept
of
the
site.
Layout,
building,
height
and
density
development
review
will
require
drc
applications
submitted
for
review
and
approval
prior
to
the
submittal
of
building
permit
applications.
I
All
architectural
and
landscape
requirements
will
be
reviewed
at
time
of
drc.
Submittal
drc
motion
to
move
the
request
forward
to
planning
commission
planning
commission
recommended
approval
unanimously
and
the
proposed
project
meets
the
requirements
necessary
for
staff
approval
of
the
plain
development,
neighborhood,
pdo2
or
2022
request,
including
deviations
for
additional
residential
density
and
building
height.
A
And
and
mayor,
let
me
point
out
that
well
identified
as
conditions
of
approval.
These
are
really
not
conditions
that
need
to
be
included
in
any
motion
for
approval
they're,
primarily
here
to
for
your
information
as
things
that
will
be
part
of
the
process,
but
not
necessarily
required
as
conditions
of
approval.
L
Good
morning,
jerry
waxer
with
the
mccrory
law
firm,
representing
sahasra,
realty
corp,
doing
business
with
shaheen
development.
I
have
been
sworn
shaheen.
Development
is
requesting
a
rezoning
from
city
center
to
plan
development.
The
subject
property
is
a
2.73
acre
parcel
prior
to
hurricane
charley.
It
was
owned
by
the
puna
gorda
housing
authority
and
was
developed
with
low-income
multi-family
housing
units.
The
buildings
were
badly
damaged
during
hurricane
charlie
and
the
housing
authority
chose
to
utilize
its
insurance
and
other
funds
to
redevelop
its
housing
community
on
cooper
street.
L
L
Shaheen
believes
that
this
project
is
what
the
community
envisions
when
it
talks
about
form-based
development.
If
you
look
at
the
site
plan,
you
have
two
buildings
that
are
located
adjacent
to
marion
avenue
and
wrap
around
the
corners
of
martin
luther
king,
jr,
boulevard
and
milos
street.
The
buildings
will
contain
7
500
square
feet
of
commercial
and
office
space
on
the
first
floor.
While
the
second
floor
will
contain
12,
one
bedroom
live
work,
apartments.
L
Well,
let
me
check
take
a
step
back,
yeah,
sorry,
the
facade
of
the
buildings.
Here
we
go,
you
can
see
it
are
broken
up
by
breezeways,
which
connect
with
the
rear
parking
area
to
the
west
marion
sidewalk,
as
well
as
by
covered
first
floor
patios,
which
can
be
utilized
for
outdoor
dining.
Those
patios
covered
areas
are
located
primarily
on
the
corners.
You
can
kind
of
see
them
as
they
go.
They
wrap
around
and
provide
the
ability
to
just
to
eat,
while
under
a
covered
roof.
L
As
you
move
from
the
two-story
buildings
in
the
front
toward
the
rear
of
the
site.
Two
two-story
65-foot
mixed-use
buildings
over
one
level
of
parking
overlook
the
harbor
and
the
harbor
walk
and
the
peace
river.
These
buildings
will
contain
a
total
of
48
rental
apartments
and
each
building
will
additionally
contain
an
office
area
and
copy
machines.
Residents
may
use
the
office
space
and
the
copy
machines
for
a
fee.
L
The
site
plan
also
incorporates
a
large
amenity
area
for
the
residents,
which
may
include
a
community
pool
a
clubhouse
sport
courts
or
a
dog
park,
and
you
can
see
that
amenity
area
large
amenity
area
between
the
two
buildings,
the
buildings
were
intentionally
placed
perpendicular
to
the
harbor,
walk
together.
The
position
of
the
buildings
and
the
large
open
area
between
the
buildings
will
reduce
the
visual
impact
from
the
river
and
from
the
harbor
walk.
L
L
L
Shaheen
development
felt
very
strongly
that,
for
both
its
residential
commercial
projects
to
be
successful,
sufficient
parking
was
a
necessity.
The
site
provides
all
parking
required
by
code.
It
parks
its
residential
units
at
two
spaces
per
unit
for
a
total
of
120
spaces
and
additionally
provides
parking
for
retail
space
according
to
code,
at
one
space
for
250
feet
of
office
space
and
one
space
for
400,
I'm
sorry
for
retail
space
and
one
space
for
400
feet,
for
I
might
have
gotten
that
backwards.
L
Additionally,
shaheen
proposes
to
improve
the
public
parking
areas
located
along
dr
martin
luther
king,
jr,
boulevard
and
mila
street,
adding
16
new
parking
spaces
along
mlk,
junior
boulevard
and
six
spaces
along
miles
street,
as
well
as
creating
a
sidewalk
connection
from
miles
to
the
harbor
walk.
A
total
of
32
spaces
would
now
be
located
along
mlk,
junior
boulevard
and
mila
street.
These
would
be
public
spaces
which
may
be
used
by
patrons
of
the
businesses
on
the
sheen
property,
but
which
will
also
be
available
for
the
justice
center
and
harbor
walk
visitors.
L
The
buildings
along
the
harbor
work
are
just
under
65
feet
in
height,
51
foot,
10
inches
from
their
required
12
foot
first
finish:
floor,
elevation
to
the
tie,
beam
and
13
feet
from
the
tie,
beam
to
the
top
of
the
pitched
roof
and
I'd
like
for
the
benefit
of
the
council
and
for
the
members
of
the
audience
to
explain
how
we
got
there.
The
elevation
at
ground
level
is
six
foot,
five
inches
the
lowest.
The
first
finished
floor
could
be
placed,
is
twelve
foot
that
would
leave
five
foot.
Five.
L
Five
point:
five
feet
from
the
ground
to
the
to
the
ceiling
or
the
basic,
the
bottom
level
of
the
first
floor,
which
does
not
allow
for
parking
under
the
building
to
accommodate
parking.
The
first
finish
floor
had
to
be
moved
from
12
foot
to
18.5
foot
that
creates
12
foot
from
the
existing
grade
to
bottom
of
the
first
finished
floor
and
creates
the
height
necessary
to
place
parking
under
the
building.
L
It
also
causes
the
four
stories
plus
the
roof,
to
extend
to
just
under
65
feet
without
parking
under
the
building,
the
building
height
would
be
59.5
feet
just
under
the
60-foot
maximum
permitted
by
the
pd
zoning
district
for
mixed-use
buildings.
The
proposed
60-foot
building
height
maximum
is
less
than
the
height
of
the
adjacent
justice
center,
which
is
75
foot
to
the
top
of
the
parapet,
wall
of
the
courthouse
wing
and
is
the
same
height
65
foot
as
the
existing
harbor
walk,
condominiums,
just
northwest
of
the
property.
L
Note
also
that
the
balconies
extend
beyond
the
property
line,
two
foot
four
inches
along
the
side
of
the
building's
along
the
side
of
buildings
and
five
foot,
eight
inch
along
the
riverwalk,
because
the
balconies
wrap
around
the
buildings.
However,
the
lowest
extension
is
12
foot
above
the
ground
and
does
not
extend
over
the
paved
portion
of
the
riverwalk.
L
Only
a
port
upon
over
the
grassy
point
of
the
riverwalk
people
will
be
able
to
walk
with
with
considerable
additional
height,
underneath
those
extensions
if
they're
walking
their
dog
and
taking
them
on
to
the
grass,
but
they
and
they
and
they
are
not
the
soul,
the
just
so
that
you
understand
you
don't
see
this
from
here.
That
is
not
the
entirety
of
the
balconies.
L
The
project
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
providing
redevelopment
within
the
downtown
community
redevelopment
area.
40
of
the
site
is
devoted
to
commercial
and
public
uses
greater
than
the
25
percent.
That
is
required
to
permit
density
in
excess
of
the
three
and
a
half
units
per
acre.
It
adds
needed
apartment,
housing
to
punta
gorda's
housing
mix.
Additionally,
the
proposed
rezoning
meets
the
criteria
for
approving
rezoning.
The
site
will
be
served
by
city,
water
and
sewer
will
have
an
on-site
vault-style
storm
water
management
system.
L
The
circulation
pattern
has
been
designed
to
allow
connection
between
mlk
junior
and
miles
without
the
need
to
re-enter
or
cross
marion
avenue.
The
trip
generation
report
submitted
with
the
application
establishes
that
marion
avenue
will
continue
to
operate
within
its
adopted
level
of
service
with
the
addition
of
the
project
traffic.
L
L
The
lower
building
heights
along
marion-
you
can
see
them
here.
The
use
of
breezeways
and
covered
patios,
together
with
the
perpendicular
placement
of
the
buildings
along
the
harbor
walk
and
the
intentionally
placed
pocket
park
and
amenity
area
will
prevent
the
concrete
canyon
effect
along
both
marion
and
the
harbor
walk.
L
L
Shaheen's
punta
gorda
development
will
create
a
pedestrian-friendly
downtown
mixed-use
environment,
which
will
complement
the
historic
downtown
core
and
provide
year-round
support
for
the
downtown
shops
and
restaurants.
As
designed,
the
project
is
an
example
of
thoughtful
urban
design
providing
mixed
uses,
including
live
work,
units
and
downtown
apartment,
housing,
on-site
parking
and
public
outdoor
space.
Shaheen
development
joins
in
staff's
analysis
and
conclusions
and
recommendations
and
requests
approval
for
its
planned
development.
Rezoning
I'm
joined
today
by
the
project
engineer
todd
rebel
as
he
experi.
B
I
like
that
there
are
public
elements
included
in
it.
I
like
that
they're
willing
to
offer
additional
parking
from
what
they
actually
are
required
to
to
incorporate
and
and
with
a
project
of
this
kind.
It
makes
some
of
the
the
things
like
extensive
height
or
density
it.
It
kind
of
evaporates,
those
because
they're
showing
that
they're
really
willing
to
work
with
the
city
and
with
our
form-based
code
ideas
and
it's
it's
very
creative,
and
it's
a
it's
pleasant
to
see
this.
K
B
L
The
elevation
of
the
site
and
the
desire
to
fully
park
the
site
and
place
parking
underneath
the
building
something
has
to
give
it
in
on
a
two
and
a
half
acre
site.
You
can't
have
parking
for
all
your
units
as
well
as
meet
the
height
in
this
situation.
We
didn't
think
that
the
height
request,
the
extension
to
65
foot,
was
unreasonable,
given
the
height
of
the
buildings
that
surround
it.
I
did
have
a
question.
K
B
D
K
L
L
J
L
B
L
It's
not
it's
not
that
they
will
operate
it's
it's
they
I
mean
level
d.
Is
your
adopted
level
of
service?
So
when
you
all
adopted
your
comprehensive
plan,
you
established
a
a
level
that
would
be
an
acceptable
level
beyond
which,
beyond
which
you
would
not
want
to
see
traffic.
It
falls
within
that
I'd
have
to
pull
up
the
actual
survey
to
see
what
the
current
level
of
service
is,
but
I
know
that
we
don't
drop
it
a
level
with
the
addition
of
this
traffic.
A
Before
we,
if
there
are
no
other
council
member
questions
before
we
hear
from
the
public
as
part
of
the
public
hearing,
I
do
have
a
question
jerry.
How
do
you
envision
the
I?
I
guess
it's
the
amenity
area
that's
been
shown
on
the
plan
and
you've
referenced-
that
as
a
you're
going
to
dedicate
that
as
a
public
area.
L
B
B
K
B
A
This
is
a
resolution
which
I'll
read
by
title:
only
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
declaring
its
intent
to
consider
vacating
a
portion
of
that
certain
10-foot
wide
alley
lying
in
block
45
city
of
punta
gorda,
also
known
as
the
subdivision
of
lot
two
and
one
half
of
lot
one
and
block
forty
five
puna
gorda.
It
was
recorded
in
platt
book
one
page.
I
I
The
applicant
does
own
over
60
percent
of
the
adjacent
properties
adjacent
to
the
alley
to
be
vacated
and
that's
kind
of
the
area
where
it
is.
It
goes
all
the
way
down.
Only
half
of
that
alley
is
usable
from
half
of
harvey
street
to
west
olympia.
The
rest
of
it
is
unimproved
and
there's
trees
and
some
things
in
it.
B
F
B
B
K
C
J
Not
sure
so,
just
as
information
on
ac
freeman,
if
you
look
at
what
we
have
in
the
current
capital
plan,
which
was
one
of
the
secondary
items
that
we
funded,
if
that's
approved
in
the
budget
we'll
have
including
the
32
000,
we
got
for
insurance,
we'll
have
a
million
412
000
dollars
available,
including
the
grant.
So
we
do
have.
You
know
plenty
to
match
the
grant.
Now
the
the
issue
will
be
when
you
talk
about
starting
and
finishing
the
project,
the
amount
of
money
that's
needed.
When
we
looked
at
some
of
the
plans.
J
Previously,
there
was
complete
renovation,
exterior
restroom
as
opposed
to
interior
restroom,
because
there's
only
a
restroom
on
the
second
floor
right
now,
and
if
that
were
not
remedied,
then
it
would
severely
limit
the
use
of
the
building
for
accessibility
when
that
comes
back
to
council.
One
of
the
things
that
will
have
to
be
determined
is
is
that
the
scope
of
work
that
will
be
completed,
which
may
exceed
1.4
specifically
or
will
that
scope
of
work
be
pared
down
somewhat.
J
So
it's
1.3
million
dollar
project
and
we
would
then
have
funds
available,
given
what
is
currently
budgeted
and,
if
approved.
So
all
those
items
are
going
to
have
to
be
discussed.
If,
indeed,
we
accept
the
grant
and
don't
use
any
of
it,
and
you
decided,
I
mean
to
be
extreme.
Obviously
this
probably
won't
be
the
decision,
but
if
you
just
decided
to
do
nothing
and
we're
not
going
to
put
any
money
in
it,
we're
going
to
put
a
roof
on
it
and
close
it
down
and
it
cost
300
000.
J
We
already
have
that
money,
we
wouldn't
touch
the
grant
and
it
would
be
returned
if
we're
going
to
do
a
renovation
of
the
project,
especially
since
it's
under
consideration
for
being
relisted,
then
we'll
have
to
determine
what
money
you
want
to
see
dedicated
to
the
project
along
with
the
grant,
so
that
we
can
not
only
match
the
monies
for
the
grant,
but
also
stay
within
budget.
If
that's
the
decision
and
move
forward
with
the
project's
scope,
based
on
that
total
budgeted
amount,
so
we
still
have
a
long
way
to
go
before
we're
finished.
J
B
J
B
J
I
I
It
was
expanded
in
1998,
the
new
library
was
constructed
and
this
building
was
closed
in
2017
and
the
county
sold
the
property
this
year
so
uses
that
are
permitted,
uses
and
structures
under
the
public.
Zoning
classification,
schools
parks,
tennis,
courts,
athletic
grounds,
playgrounds,
publicly
owned
utilities,
public
auditoriums
and
all
other
civic
uses.
I
So
the
proposed
use
is
a
jewish
community
center,
a
hebrew
school
with
classes
and
activities
for
children
and
adults,
expanded
space
for
worship,
a
jewish
library,
informal
meeting
center,
speaker
and
holiday
programs,
and
this
is
for
council
consideration
of
approval
of
their
requested
uses.
We
do
have
the
applicant
here
and
they
do
have
a
presentation.
B
I
B
E
K
B
B
All
right
so
do
we
have
a
second.
We
had
three
moves
to
approve.
We
have
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
request
for
shabbat
regarding
the
use
at
424
west
henry
street.
Any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
Okay,
are
we
ready.
B
K
B
B
J
So
if
I
could
start
this
out
with
your
profession
of
course,
good
morning
ro,
this
is
greg.
I
just
wanted
to
start
out
the
discussion
by
reiterating
that
last
year
we
had
several
things
that
we
were
looking
at
as
far
as
future
initiatives,
which
included
things
like
septic
to
sewer
economic
development
incentives.
J
So
with
that,
we
need
to
start
thinking
and
defining
what
we
want
to
present
as
legislative
initiatives
and,
of
course,
we
don't
quite
yet
have
what
the
county
has
approved,
but
we
will
be
looking
at
what
they
also
support
and
are
asking
for
to
see.
If
city
council
also
wants
to
support
those
as
they
present
them,
but
the
discussion
is
what
priorities
do
we
want
to
move
forward
with?
Is
it
historic
money?
Is
it
parking
structure?
Is
it
water
quality
initiatives?
J
Certainly,
the
governor
was
in
southwest
florida
yesterday
talking
about
water
quality
initiatives,
so
he's
made
that
a
priority
by
his
own
words
for
this
coming
year.
So
there's
those
type
things
that
we
can
discuss
and
certainly
our
lobbyist
has
their
finger
on
the
pulse
of
things.
That
may
be
interesting
enough
to
get
funded,
as
we
present
things
to
the
legislature
and
can
help
guide
us
as
you
go
through
those
discussions.
J
C
Out
in
the
so
thank
you
all
for
having
us
today,
mayor
and
councilmen
and
women
there
today
thank
you
for
having
us
there
remotely
now,
one
of
the
things
that
we
should
focus
on
what
I
got
from
my
nose
and
from
listening
to
your
knee
earlier
today
is
obviously
there
are
parking
initiatives,
and
then
you
all
have
some
water
quality
focuses.
Is
there
anything
else
that
I
may
have
missed,
and
it
is
a
little
bit
hard
to
hear
you
greg.
So
I
apologize.
B
B
So
you
know
we
we
want
your
input
as
well,
and
I
know
edgar
is
on
this
call
as
well
and
edgar
is
the
the
guru
on
water
quality
initiatives.
So
you
know
with
with
your
help.
We
would
certainly
like
to
keep
the
momentum
going
with
what
we
provided
last
year,
but
also,
if
you
have
any
other
suggestions
on
things
that
you're
seeing
in
tallahassee
that
may
be
relative
to
what
our
goals
and
initiatives
should
be.
J
The
million
dollars
that
we
had
in
there
for
economic
development
incentives
that
was
simply
on
the
list
last
year
is
something
that
can
tie
into
parking
our
stated
objective
in
the
community
redevelopment
area.
Our
cra
part
of
that
is
public
investment
to
facilitate
development
of
blighted
areas
and
part
of
that
it
goes
on
to
discuss
parking.
So
that
is
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
parking
requirement
is
lower
in
the
cra,
certainly
not
just
because
everyone
has
one
car.
B
E
E
I
do
think
that-
and
I
agree
with
with
what
greg
said
is
that
the
the
parking
piece
is
probably
the
most
immediate
and
urgent
and
probably
the
thing
that
we
can
get
done
actually
quicker
because
it's
less
dollars
than
some
of
this
other
stuff
I
mean
when
we
were
talking
about
some
of
the
water
quality
things.
I
mean
you're
talking
about
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
that
it's
going
to
take
this
this
parking
thing
with
a
little
cooperation.
E
B
C
A
lot
I
think
in
gestures
and
what
not
all
I
see
is
a
little
square
that
says
flip
to
gorda.
So
I
apologize
if
I
sort
of
repeat
what
you
say,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
understanding
what
you're
saying
so
one
of
your
highest
priorities
at
this
point
really
is
the
parking
piece
for
downtown
in
order
to
spur
and
light
that
economic
redevelopment
in
the.
C
B
So
the
city
and
the
county
are
working
on
setting
up
a
joint
meeting
in
the
not
too
distant
future
so
that
we
can
discuss
possible
opportunities
of
working
together,
one
of
which
would
be
hopefully
a
parking
garage
on
the
event
center
parking
lot.
That's
been
in
the
preliminary
discussion
stages
already
on
both
of
our
bodies
and
so
we're
hoping
to
have
a
meeting
with
them
so
that
we
can
have
an
opportunity
to
say.
B
B
So
that's
a
that
is
a
a
very
heavy
priority,
because
our
parcel
in
the
city
center
has
been
vacant
for
18
years
and
we
need
to
get
something
built
there.
It's
just
a
matter
of
what
and
what
it's
going
to
look
like
and
how
they
can
best
fill
the
needs
of
the
community,
as
well
as
making
sure
that
it's
a
a
project
that
will
have
a
return
on
investment
for
the
developer.
That
comes
forward.
M
Push
any
agenda
of
the
legislature,
especially
economic
growth,
sitting
out
with
the
manager
we
can
figure
out
parts
and
pieces
of
what
we
need
to
build
our
garage.
We
bring
money
for
certain
parts
of
it
and
we
partner
with
others
and
that's
how
we
build
things.
We're
not
going
to
build
anything
with
one
fund,
but
I
think
that
meeting
with
the
county
will
be
very
important
now,
because
everybody's
doing
their
budgets
everybody's
doing
their
their
agendas.
M
C
Thank
you.
You
know,
as
we
had
said
before,
the
last
meeting
that
we
visited
you
all
with
is
that
the
state
really
is
turning
more
towards
programmatic
funding
for
a
lot
of
these
types
of
projects,
and
a
lot
of
these
funds
are
going
to
come
through
some
of
the
state
agencies
like
department
of
economic
development.
M
M
For
future
acceptance
in
the
program,
so
I
know
that
in
your
region,
there's
a
regional
approach
in
the
county
and
others
to
go
in
and
do
a
big
assessment
and
if
you're
able
to
work
together,
you're
checking
that
box
for
the
folks
that
are
asking
that
they
need
to
do
an
assessment
of
the
state
of
florida
of
67
counties.
So
we
can
come
in
as
a
partner
to
show.
This
is
what
we
need
for
our
county,
our
region,
our
or
multiple
cities.
J
And
just
to
further
that
we
are
in
the
middle
of
that
assessment
now
with
the
engineering
firm,
but
when
we
talk
about
water
quality
initiatives,
as
that
relates
to
economic
development,
even
in
the
downtown
core,
if
we
build
a
parking
deck,
it's
probably
over
already
impervious
surface,
but
at
the
same
time
we
have
parking
structures
that
require
infrastructure.
We
have
a
lot
of
storm
stormwater
requirements,
downtown
that
inhibit
economic
development
because
of
the
cost
of
the
stormwater
management.
That's
really
a
centralized
thing,
as
opposed
to
just
site-specific.
J
We
also
have
vitrified
clay
pipe,
a
lot
of
inflow
into
that
that
limits
system
capacity
that
then
limits
economic
development,
so
everything
you've
said
with
utility
enhancements
storm
water
enhancements.
All
of
that
relates
to
economic
development,
the
parking
structures
itself.
All
of
that
is
economic
development
and
water
quality
related
in
some
regard
that
we
could
make
the
argument
they
all
tie
together.
M
H
C
Okay,
so
there
are
historical
and
cultural
funds.
There
usually
aren't
that
many
of
them,
if
that
is
a
little
bit
of
a
heavier
lift
with
regards
to
the
legislature,
there's
usually
more
grant
programs
for
those
and
usually
they're,
not
for
very
large
amounts
of
funding,
they're,
usually
a
little
bit
smaller,
a
hundred
thousand
smaller
opportunities.
For
that.
C
I
do
know
that
you,
I
think
it's
the
military
museum
that
you
all
wanted
to
do
some
some
work
to
that's
something
we
can
put
in
the
mix
and
and
talk
about
and
figure
out
how
we
can
get
funding.
And
if
it's
not
in
the
legislative,
then
maybe
it
is
something
that
we
really
can't
focus
on
in
the
grant
cycles
really
watching
the
deo
and
department.
C
Well,
big
numbers,
especially
things
that
the
legislature
really
likes
to
see,
is
that
any
particular
project
is
increasing
or
creating
jobs.
So
if
there's
opportunities
that
create
jobs,
that's
always
good
to
know
if
you
have
numbers
on
that,
that's
always
good.
If
a
project
creates
tourism
dollars
economic
development
dollars,
and
if
you
can
somehow
put
that
into
numbers,
I
mean
obviously
we
know
like
hey.
This
is
going
to
bring
dollars
to
our
community,
but
if
you
can
actually
get
specific
dollar
amounts
that
this
will
generate.
C
That
specific
can
be
helpful
and
there
are
ways,
especially
with
non-profits
and
art
centers.
I
know
there's
a
way
that
I'll
have
to
look
through
my
notes,
but
there
is
a
place
that
can
help
you
try
to
a
formula
that
will
help
with
regards
to
getting
those
types
of
numbers,
but
those
are
the
types
of
numbers
that
we
would
definitely
need,
because
those
are
the
questions
that
we're
going
to
get
asked.
You
know:
does
this
generate
jobs?
C
Does
this
generate
dollars
to
the
area
and
also,
if
there's
any
way,
that
you
can
tie
this
to
state
wide
impact,
so
any
project?
That's
one
of
the
questions
that
we
always
get
asked
is:
what
is
the
statewide
impact
for
this
particular
project
and
we'll
have
to
be
able
to
answer
that
so
with
parking
garages?
C
C
Our
best
chance
edgar,
what
do
you
think
our
best
chances
and
to
me
it
would
be
water?
I
think
I
think
water
is
really
going
to
be
at
the
forefront
of
the
legislature.
We've
got
people
coming
into
leadership
where
water
is
really
their
focus.
So
as
they
rise
in
power,
I
think
water.
I
think
water
is
going
to
be
one
of
the
best
places
to
try
to
get
funding.
M
And
so
one
of
the
key
things
is
we're
having
new
leadership
coming
in
so
there's
a
transition
phase
right
now
where
things
are
changing,
but
they
can't
pull
the
trigger.
But
I
can
tell
you
the
incoming
speaker
from
flagler
and
their
group
is
all
about
resiliency
about
water.
They
want
to
leave
something
permanent,
not
a
two
years
of
money
and
then
we
disappeared,
so
they're
gonna
focus
on
that.
So
that's
why
I'm
telling
you
there's
an
opportunity
here
with
good
planning
permanent,
can
tell
you
pasado
in
your.
M
M
It's
a
different
administration.
The
forms
may
change
the
process
may
change.
So
those
are
things
we
have
to
wait
for
november
to
see
what
they
release
and
our
timeline
will
be
tight
like
january
february,
where
we
will
have
our
ducks
in
a
row.
So
when
the
forms
come
out,
what
we
need
to
do
our
sponsors
are
lined
up
and
we're
ready
to
fill
out
those
forms,
because
this
year,
the
regular
session
over
time,
because
the
election
time
frame
and
the
governor's
budget
is
in
january.
M
M
Affordable
housing,
workforce
housing
and
you
need
to
tie
that
project
to
the
parking
garage.
Are
there
administrative
opportunities
for
parking
vacation
rentals
is
not
going
to
go
away,
but
it's
not
going
to
come
in
full
force
before
it's
something
that
she
wants
to
resolve.
You
know
that's
what
kind
of
person
she
is
so.
J
M
M
H
E
B
I
don't
recall
the
date
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
anyway
we
will
have
to
have
our
list
to
the
legislative
delegation
before
they
have
their
meeting,
which
is
here
in
punta
gorda
in
a
couple
of
months,
and
we
will
have
to
fine-tune
what
we
want
on
our
list
of
suggestions
to
the
legislature.
What
are
we.
J
E
C
C
Because
really
when
we
go
forth
in
front
of
the
legislature
and
get
your
sponsors,
we
really
there's
usually
sort
of
one
ask
that
they
that
you're
making.
Obviously
with
all
the
other
asks.
Those
are
things
that
we
would
look
for,
grant
funding
and
other
sources
of
funding,
but
going
forward
in
front
of
the
legislature.
C
They
really
want
to
see
sort
of
the
one
ask
from
an
entity
they're
not
really
inclined
to
do
multiple
requests
from
an
entity
so
sort
of
keeping
that
in
mind,
just
sort
of,
I
guess,
ranking
your
priorities.
So
as
we
go
through
them,
we
can
also
give
you
our
opinions
in
terms
of
strategy
and
which
ones
might
be
better
for
this
year.
Obviously,
there's
always
politics
and
news
that
happens
that
really
plays
into
what's
really
going
to
be
focused
on
with
the
legislature.
M
M
There's
documents,
but
one
of
the
key
things
that
they're
going
to
ask
for
is:
how
does
the
board
approve
this?
Is
there
any
capital
plan?
Is
there
money
behind?
This
is
our
matches
all
these
details.
We
have.
We
know
what
they're
going
to
ask
for.
So
we
have
those
forms,
and
we
can
start
looking
at
that
and
that
that's
very.
M
B
D
B
Okay,
we
will
have
some
further
discussions
among
us
and
then
probably
the
city
manager,
and
I
will
reach
out
and
we'll
set
up
a
zoom
meeting
with
just
the
two
of
you
and
we
can
further
elaborate
on
our
list
of
of
what
we
want
to
do
with
with
going
forward
and
then
we'll
bring
it
back
to
council
after
that.
So
I
think
that'll
be
the
way
we'll
have
to
move
it
forward
so
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page.
J
M
I
belong
to
a
group
of
extraordinary
internal
obvious
as
being
an
ex-government
person
and
we
all
work
together
to
try
and
move
the
agenda,
especially
a
big
policy
bill,
but
I
will
be
in
your
area,
first
of
all
october
for
the
residency
conference
benito
so
if
you're
having
any
county
meetings
or
anything
like
that,
I'm
glad
to
participate
to
try
and
get
the
ball
rolling
working
as
a
region.
So
you
just
let
me
know
right.
B
B
C
B
G
G
G
K
G
So
I
was
just
saying
that
we
reorganized
information
revised
term
language
for
consistency
among
all
boards.
We
included
a
requirement
for
members
to
become
familiar
with
policies
and
procedures
in
board
member
handbook
and
to
attend
any
mandatory
training.
We
revised
ddg
to
indicate
the
board
would
provide
recommendations
on
use
of
any
historic
structures
donated
to
the
city
at
city
council's
request.
G
K
K
J
K
K
To
have
them
be
advising
council
on
plaques
to
me
is
just
a
total
overstep
of
responsibilities.
I
would
like
to
see
somebody
make
sure
that
there
are
some
representatives
of
historic
bodies
on
this
group.
The
county
requires
that
at
least
three
people
be
members
of
a
regis,
a
recognized
historic
element
in
the
community.
K
I
actually
watched
a
meeting
where
a
presentation
was
made
and
one
of
the
members
thanked
the
presenter,
because
she
learned
so
much
about
the
city.
I
find
that
troubling.
If
we're
going
to
go
to
them
for
permission
to
do
something,
they
should
tell
us
yes
or
no
now
another
thing.
No,
I
am
I'm
I'm
giving
you
my
opinions,
but
I'm
also
reflecting
the
views
of
several
people
in
the
history
community
that
that
I
speak
with
okay.
K
K
That
is
definitely
nothing
to
do
with
that,
and
I
know
the
parking
situation
is
in
the
historic
district,
but
that's
still
a
code
issue
and
I
couldn't
find
a
single
person
who
thought.
Besides,
you
know.
Yes,
they
were
qualified
to
be
on
this
board,
but
no,
they
didn't
want
anything
to
do
with
it,
and
I
think
that
speaks
volumes
about
the
reputation
of
this
board
and
I
am
deeply
concerned.
G
So
that
one
was
a
duty
that
the
board
had
proposed
its
council's
decision
as
to
what
you
would
like
the
board
to
be
charged
with
reviewing.
If
council
members
would
like
that
to
be
revised
or
removed,
we
could
definitely
do
that.
As
for
the
membership,
I
know
that
our
donation
review
committee
does
have
a
requirement
for
a
member
of
the
a
local
nonprofit
concerned
with
the
arts,
and
there
is
another
requirement
for
a
specific
kind
of
member.
If
you
would
like
to
see
membership
requirements
along
those
lines,
we
could
put
something
in.
G
I
wonder
how
that
would
work
if
you've
been
speaking
with
the
local
historic
groups,
that
would
probably
be
ideal
and
they
are
not
interested,
I'm
not
certain
in
what
way
they
are
considered
a
hot
mess.
Is
there
something
that
you
think
we
could
adjust
in
the
duties?
Perhaps
that
would
make
it
more
appealing
to
them.
K
I
do,
I
think
we
need
to
refine
the
duties
to
go
back
to
what
it
originally
was,
which
was
a
historic
preservation,
advisory
board.
We've
turned
it
into.
If
it
has
the
word
history
or
if
it
looks
like
it
could
be
history,
we
send
it
to
them,
and
that's
that
was
not
the
original
intent.
I
I
did
go
back
and
look
up
one
of
the
original.
Well,
I
didn't
look
it
up.
Somebody
gave
it
to
me,
but
you
know
we
have.
We
have
people
on
the
board
right
now,
who
don't?
K
G
D
I
mean
I
can
see
why
it
seems
outside
the
scope,
but
I
think
it's
in
the
scope
because
of
the
fact
that
the
historic
preservation
of
roger
board
actually
deals
with
the
historic
district
itself
and
the
fact
that
we
need
to
try
to
maintain
our
concentration
of
historic
buildings.
And
so
I
think
there
is
something
in
terms
of
having
a
relationship
to
the
neighborhood
and
how
it's
regulated.
I
think
that
is
within
their
purview.
D
I'm
saying
that
that
that
board-
actually
it's
it's
not
just
an
abstract
about
history.
It's
actually
the
fact
that
our
stark
district
has
these
historic
structures
that
it
does
need
to
weigh
in
on
things
that
deals
with
the
actual
neighborhood
of
the
historic
district,
especially
with
keeping
with
the
the
with
the
concentration
of
historic
buildings.
So
I
think
that
there
is
something
with
how
the
historic
district
itself
runs
and
and
how
it's
run,
because
there
are
different
rules
like
a
lot
of
times.
D
K
D
K
C
K
B
May
I
suggest
that
to
resolve
this,
we
don't
vote
on
this
today
to
move
it
forward.
Perhaps
you
can
facilitate
a
meeting
with
the
people.
You've
been
talking
with
with
the
clerk's
office
and
come
up
with
a
revised,
updated
list
of
what
the
bylaws
should
be,
based
on
conversations
a
suggested
list
that
that
can
be
brought
back
to
council,
okay,.
K
B
K
B
F
E
E
E
I
don't
know
what
to
do
with
one
two
and
five,
but
I
did
take
the
liberty
of
re-drafting
three
four
and
six
in
into
objectives
that
at
least
as
best
as
I
could
meet
the
smart
criteria.
I
I
could
read
those
off.
I
didn't
make
copies
to
bring
for
everybody
or
or
we
could.
I
could
send
these
around
later.
I
don't
know
how
you
want
to
approach
that,
but.
B
E
To
handle
it,
I
didn't,
I
didn't
want
to
start
disseminating
this
until
we
had
this
conversation,
but
I'd
be
happy
to
do
that
and
I'd
be
happy
to
to
work
with
you.
Karen
on
these,
like
I
said
one
two
and
five,
I
don't
know
what
to
do
with
the
other
four
are
that
they
can
be
very
close
to
good
objectives.
I.
B
Don't
disagree
with
you.
I
always
had
to
do
action
plans
for
every
month
that
I
was
in
business
rather
than
you
disseminating
to
council.
That's
not
the
proper
protocol,
so
you
should
deal
with
the
clerk's
office
and
then
have
them,
disseminate
the
information
to
us
and
bring
it
back
for
a
future
council
meeting.
F
B
I
don't
disagree
with
what
he
said.
I
think
that
when
you
put
objectives
on
paper,
it
should
be
a
list
of
goals
that
you
plan
to
accomplish
in
the
in
the
next
fiscal
year
and
they
should
be
tangible
so
that
there's
measurable
objectives
that
can
be
accomplished
and
put
time
periods
timelines
on
each
thing.
B
So
and
we've
said
this,
the
same
thing
with
the
strategic
plan
and
melissa
has
has
done
a
lot
of
that
with
the
strategic
plan,
where
we
now
have
measurable
goals
for
each
department
that
they're
going
to
come
back
at
some
point
in
the
not
too
distant
future
and
update
us
on
where
we
stand.
Year-To-Date
on
the
the
you
know,
the
current
fiscal
year.
That's
about
to
end
where
we
stand
in
terms
of
the
the
objectives
and
goals
that
were
set
for
this
past
fiscal
year
and
and
that's
the
only
way
that
you
can
do
measurable.
B
Review
and
evaluation
on
an
annual
basis
for
for
line
employees
or
for
appointed
employees,
especially
because
we
have
to
do
your
your
review
as
well
as
greg.
So
I
think
we
need
to
have
measurable
tasks
that
that
we
can
come
back
and
say:
oh
okay!
Well,
this
was
supposed
to
be
done
by
this
date.
If
it
wasn't,
why
wasn't
it
or
you
know,
know
what
I'm
saying
so
that
next
year,
when
we
do,
when
we
do
your
review
next
year,
we'll
be
able
to
say
oh
okay?
Well,
this
didn't
get
done.
B
B
K
K
F
B
B
It'll
have
to
be
publicly
noticed
because
of
the
sunshine
law,
but
to
have
an
open
workshop
session
with
each
of
the
board
and
committee
groups
and
and
discuss
what
the
you
know,
what
their
basic
training
rules
should
be
and
and
same
thing.
You
know
what
what
is
expected
of
them
and
go
from
there
that
might
keep
it.
You
know
specific
to
each
board
or
committee
mark.
You
had
your
hand
up.
E
Well,
I
mean,
as
I
said,
I
didn't
have
any
issue
with
the
intent
of
any
of
these.
It
was
just
I'm
sitting
there
thinking
in
a
year
you're
going
to
ask
me
to
evaluate
these
and
provide
you
know,
are
they
accomplished
or
not
and
provide
feedback?
And
I
looked
at
them.
I
said
there's
no
way
that
I
could
provide.
E
With
so
it's
just
a
matter
of
rewriting
them
and
and
getting
them
and
some
of
them,
I
I
don't
know
how
to
do
that,
but
I
did
it
for
some
of
them.
I
think
you'll
see
exactly
when
I,
if
I'll
send
you
these
I'll,
be
happy
to
send.
If
we
want
to
meet
or
talk,
I
think
you
can
get
and
then
once
you
see
where
I'm
going
with
those
other
ones,
maybe
you
figure
out
how
to
do
the
other
three.
E
E
K
F
B
C
B
H
Good
morning,
everyone
melissa,
reichert
assistant
city
manager.
It
is
that
time
of
the
year
again
strategic
plan
of
giving
a
little
history
on
how
we
started
this
whole
project
right
after
the
end
of
our
fiscal
year.
Last
year
we
started
looking
at
what
the
goals
and
objectives
would
be
for
the
coming
year
and
what
those
action
plans
would
look
like.
Then
we
reached
out
to
the
community
and
asked
for
feedback
as
to
what
they
thought
that
the
city
should
be
working
on.
H
Looking
at
those
types
of
things,
so
we
took
that
information,
both
myself
and
kristen
when
she
was
working
on
the
budget.
Our
citizen
comments,
what
we've
heard
from
you
all
say
as
counsel
as
priorities
for
this
community
and
also
what
we
heard
from
the
one
percent
sales
tax
committee.
They
set
a
lot
of
our
work
in
motion
with
the
funding
of
certain
projects.
H
So
what
strategic
planning
is
it's
used
to
set
the
overall
goals
for
the
city?
It
provides
direction
to
our
departments,
it
creates
the
basis
for
our
budget,
it's
dynamic,
it
evolves
year
to
year,
and
it's
big
picture
thinking.
So
just
because
you
don't
happen
to
see
something
in
our
strategic
plan
doesn't
mean
that
we
aren't
looking
at
it.
We
had
a
comment
from
the
ponegorda
chamber
of
commerce
where
they
want
us
to
be
looking
at
parking
issues.
H
Well,
we
know
that
during
that
last
conversation
that
we
were
having
with
the
lobbyists,
that
is
one
of
our
one
of
our
primary
goals-
is
to
do
something
about
that
parking
issue.
It
isn't
necessarily
point
blank
in
the
strategic
plan,
but
we
we
are
working
on
things
that
are
outside
of
this.
This
is
the
overall
big
picture.
H
It's
all
guided
by
our
mission
and
our
vision,
our
mission
to
enhance
puna
gorda's
identity
as
a
vibrant,
waterfront
community,
unique
in
character
in
history
and
one
of
the
most
desirable
places
to
live,
work
and
visit,
and
that's
the
test
that
every
decision
that
you
as
council
make
every
decision
that
we
make
as
staff
and
implementing
your
decisions.
We're
basing
it
we're
viewing
it
through
that
lens
of
our
mission.
H
H
So
last
year
we
added
some
new
sections
to
the
strategic
plan.
One
was
the
five-year
staffing
plan
and
you'll
notice
in
this
year's
strategic
plan.
That's
in
there
as
well.
It's
really
important
for
us,
as
staff
and
and
our
directors
to
be
looking
at
what
it's
going
to
take
in
the
future,
to
make
our
city
successful
and
then
to
give
you
that
lens
to
view
things
through
as
well
as
city
council
members.
So
that's
new!
That's
in
there
as
well
as
a
lot
of
the
budget
information.
H
H
A
few
of
the
items
that
we'll
be
working
on
this
next
year
to
deliver
on
those
goals.
One
is
hiring
a
records
coordinator
to
implement
a
records
management
plan
in
the
city
clerk's
office,
which
I'm
sure
at
those
quarterly
meetings
with
our
city
clerk
she's,
going
to
be
telling
you
all
about
that
and
keeping
you
up
to
date
on
that
project.
H
We're
also
looking
at
online
permitting.
We
don't
have
the
specific
solution
in
place
yet,
but
that
is
a
top
priority,
and
that
was
one
that
we
heard
from
residents
as
well,
that
they
wanted
to
see
addressed.
Our
business
community
really
wants
to
see
that
addressed
the
cost
cost-benefit
analysis
of
annexations.
H
We
need
to
know
exactly
when
somebody
approaches
us
that
wants
to
annex
into
the
city
or
we
approach
them.
Is
it
a
winning
proposition
for
city
residents?
Do
both
parties
stand
to
gain
something
in
that,
and
then
our
gov
qa
email
attachment
to
pdf
module
that
again,
that's
going
to
help
improve
the
efficiency
in
the
clerk's
office
and
and
make
operations
smoother.
H
Infrastructure
sustainability.
We
have
the
goal
of
maintaining
that
infrastructure
that
that
we
have.
Here.
We
have
our
five-year
capital
improvement
program
in
place.
We
need
to
make
sure
we're
always
looking
at
best
management
practices
and
infrastructure
maintenance
and
that
we're
using
technology
in
appropriate
ways
as
things
change.
H
H
Partnerships,
communication
and
collaboration-
those
are
our
public-private
partnerships
with
different
entities
within
the
community.
We're
going
to
continue
to
seek
community
input
in
our
decision-making
process,
we're
going
to
emphasize
transparency
in
city
operations,
reporting
and
activities,
and
we
are
still
working
on
diversifying
housing
types,
as
recommended
by
the
2019
planned
punta
gorda
citywide
master
plan
over
the
next
five
years.
H
So
some
of
the
things
that
we'll
be
working
on
over
the
course
of
fiscal
year,
2023
we'll
have
our
citizens
academy
again.
This
is
to
help
residents
understand
what
the
community
is
about.
I
have
15
participants
on
there.
It's
actually
20
that
we'll
be
able
to
take
this
year.
We
had
lowered
the
number
because
of
covet
we're
going
to
go
back
up
to
the
20
again
this
year.
The
public
safety
youth
academy,
we're
hoping
to
have
30
student
participants
between
10
and
14
years
old.
H
We
send
representatives
to
those
meetings
and
council
has
a
representative
that
attends
the
meetings
and
then
we'll
collaborate
with
the
florida
department
of
transportation
on
the
northbound,
tamiami
trail,
u.s,
vision,
study
and
not
just-
and
I'm
just
saying
not
just
that
study.
We're
in
constant
communication
with
fdat
under
mayor
matthew's
leadership
and
our
city
manager
murray.
I
think
they
have
direct
lines
to
just
about
everybody
at
f
dot
at
this
point,
so
we're
in
good
hands
there.
H
The
strategic
communications
positioning,
that
is,
the
marketing
plan
for
the
city
and
we're
making
sure
that
we
optimize
waterfront
bicycle
and
pedestrian
assets
of
the
city.
We
again
are
partnering.
You
here,
partnerships,
partnerships
partnership,
so
we
ca.
We
can't
do
this
alone.
We
rely
on
chambers
of
commerce,
realtors
associations,
economic
development,
to
accomplish
all
of
the
goals
that
we
have
for
the
city,
and
then
we
will
support
and
facilitate
the
marketing
of
ponte
gordo's
assets
as
a
core
to
a
vibrant
downtown.
H
H
Quality
of
life
will
maintain
the
city's
high
safety
rating
emergency
response
and
storm
preparedness
support
and
promote
the
city's
historic
character,
meet
all
the
water
quality
standards
and
continue
planning
and
implementing
climate
change
strategies
that
protect
natural
resources
and
support
economic
growth
and
a
few
items
under
that
section.
The
parks
and
rec
master
plan
will
be
completed
this
year.
That'll
help
us
have
a
clear
guide
for
development
and
enhancement
of
the
parks
in
the
future.
B
Thank
you.
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
work
and
I
speak
personally
to
thank
you
melissa
for
your
help
with
with
the
isles
life
article
every
month.
Sometimes
your
brain
goes
kind
of
like
mushy,
when
you
start
writing
articles
for
different
things
and
and
every
month
I
she's
she's
really
helpful
to
me
that
I
can
forward
the
proposed
article
to
her
and
she
helps
me
edit
and
and
adds
things
that
she
thinks
could
be
also
interesting
to
the
readers.
B
So
I
do
appreciate
all
your
help
with
all
of
that,
but
this
is
a
a
very
intensive
document
that
has
become
a
living
working
document
now,
which
is
nice.
It's
got
tangible
timelines,
it's
got,
it's
got
attainable
goals
and
objectives,
and
I
think
that's
what
we've
been
looking
for
for
the
last
several
years
and
joha
you-
and
I
both
been
here
six
years
and
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
how
long
and
I
think.
B
Than
having
a
bunch
of
paper
in
front
of
us,
that
doesn't
really
do
a
whole
lot
moving
forward.
I
think
this
really
helps
and
I
think
it
helps
everybody.
That's
on
the
staff
to
keep
everybody
focused
on
what
the
what
the
objectives
of
each
department
should
be.
So
thank
you
for
a
lot
of
hard
work.
It's
a
it's!
A
very,
very
well
done
document.
J
And
if
I
could
add
to
that,
thank
you
for
all
the
work
you
do
on
this.
I
know
it
takes
a
lot
of
time
when
I
see
the
amount
of
time
it
takes
and
you're,
not
always
the
most
popular
person
when
you're
trying
to
get
things
from
other
people
to
put
in
this
and
to
make
sure
we're
tracking
the
goals
and
tasks
to
feed
the
goals
that
feed
the
objectives.
J
But
you
know
I
specifically
take
a
lot
of
my
cues
from
the
strategic
plan
and
where
the
city
is
going
and
what
we
need
to
accomplish,
and
a
lot
of
the
detail
in
here
is
what
we
work
on
continuously
to
make
the
city
an
even
better
place.
So
this
is
very
important
document
and
something
that
we
take
to
heart.
J
The
departments
themselves
have
objectives
in
here
that
reflect
on
their
evaluations
and
we
make
sure
that
what
is
stated
are
the
directions
that
we
try
to
continue
to
go
and
the
goals
we
try
to
accomplish,
including
our
budgetary
objectives
that
you
see
in
here
that
I
know
kristin
and
the
whole
staff
work
on
very
hard.
So
thank
you
for
all
the
input
that
everyone's
put
into
this
to
make
it
happen.
B
H
B
F
H
B
J
B
F
So
just
a
few
boards
and
committees
items
I'll
go
through
the
vacancies.
First,
a
board
of
zoning
appeals
to
alternates
burnt
store
isles
canal
advisory
committee,
one
vacancy
code
enforcement
board;
two
alternates
historic
preservation;
advisory
board;
one
alternate
planning;
commission;
one:
alternate
puna,
gorda
isles
canal
advisory
committee,
one
vacancy
and
utility
advisory
board.
We
have
two
vacancies.
F
F
In
all
his
time
on
the
planning
commission,
he
has
only
been
absent
one
time
and
then
for
code
enforcement
he's
been
serving
since
2019
has
only
been
absent.
A
couple
of
times
he's
been
and
my
point
there
is
that
he's
been
managing
to
serve
on
two
boards
for
more
than
three
years,
and
perhaps
you
would
be
willing
to
nominate
him
for
appointment
reappointment.
I'm
sorry
on
code
enforcement.
B
I
would
also
comment:
I
worked
with
him
on
a
couple
of
boards
when
I
was
doing
boards
and
committees
before
council
and
and
he's
very
diligent.
He
does
his
homework
and
in
his
case
he
he's
familiar
enough
with
both
boards
that
I
would
not
personally
have
a
problem.
Reappointing
him
as
on
a
second
board
mark,
is
your
mic
on.
E
B
I
I
will
comment
that
since
the
last
meeting
I
have
received
a
number
of
comments
from
people
about
that
the
decision
and
the
discussion
that
we
had
and
there
what
we
did
say
initially
was
that
we
only
wanted
people
on
one
board,
but
I
think
it
evolved
to
if
people
are
currently
on
two
boards
and
they
want
to
continue
on
those
boards
that
they
could
be
considered
to
be
grandfathered.
That
was
my
recollection
of
it,
but
and-
and
I
think
going
forward.
B
C
K
B
It's
no,
I
mean
what
we're
saying
is
that
it's
up
to
the
council
to
make
a
decision
for
individual
circumstances
like
this,
because
there
are
several
people
there's
at
least
one
in
the
audience.
That's
on
multiple
committees
right
now,
and
I
think
I
think
it's
up
to
the
council
to
decide
if
that
is,
is
going
to
continue
to
be
a
good
fit.
I
think
that
was
kind
of
why
we
went
that
direction
with
the
conversation
so.
K
F
K
B
C
If
I
may,
then
just
clarify
so
what
we're
doing
right
now
is
that,
depending
on
how
the
vote
goes,
what
would
happen
would
be
the
fact
that
it
would
just
be
open
and
then
someone
else
would
have
to
you
would
wait
for
someone
else
to
apply,
but
this
gentleman
would
still
be
serving
on
planning
commission
because
he's
not
up
for
renewal.
Yet
right
is
that
correct,
just.
B
E
B
E
J
My
comments
just
restrict
to
the
strategic
plan
and
our
ongoing
operations
as
we
come
into
the
budget
cycle.
Certainly
we'll
have
our
first
budget
meeting
at
501
next
week
upcoming
and
then
we'll
have
our
second
budget
meeting
to
finalize
before
october
1st
and
move
into
our
new
budget
cycle.
So
as
we
do
that,
we've
certainly
been
working
diligently
and
staff
has
been
working
very
hard
to
accomplish
the
stated
goals
of
this
current
fiscal
year
and
to
prepare
for
the
goals
that
we
have
in
our
strategic
plan
and
our
operational
goals
for
next
fiscal
year.
J
So
as
we
move
through
that,
we
appreciate
your
indulgence
as
a
lot
of
things
have
come
to
you
and
we
have
a
lot
of
information
forthcoming.
But
we
certainly
do
take
our
role
as
supporting
the
community
very
seriously
and
being
transparent
and
helping
to
accomplish
the
goals
of
city
council
to
move
the
city
forward.
So
we'll
continue
to
work
hard
to
do
that
and
you'll
see
a
lot
more
things
coming
to
you,
even
the
summary
of
the
accomplishments
we've
had
in
the
past
year.
J
A
A
B
Okay,
we
still
have
five
minutes.
I
don't
know
if
we
can
do
the
evaluation
discussion
for
five
minutes,
so
we'll
move
on
to
council
member
comments
we'll
come
back
to
that
after
we
finish
the
12
o'clock
hearing,
okay,
okay,
I
only
have
one
comment,
and
that
is
I'm
very
concerned
with
the
proliferation
of
open
house
signs
being
displayed
on
the
weekends.
B
But
the
whole
reason
why
we
even
started
with
discussions
about
our
sign,
ordinance,
two
and
a
half
or
three
years
ago,
was
because
of
realtor
open
house
signs
and
we
are
not
permitting
directional
open
house
signs
on
right
away
properties
and
I
have
consistently
for
the
last
three
weekends
seen
several
of
them.
I
sent
a
couple
of
pictures
to
the
city
manager
about
it
and
I
think
it's
time
that
we
send-
and
I
would
ask
this
of
urban
design
and
lisa.
B
If
you
would,
please
send
a
letter
out
to
the
realtors
again
and
I
think
we
need
to
have
code
alternating
shifts
again
for
the
next
few
weeks
and
see
if
they
can
see
what
I'm
seeing,
because
I
I've
seen
dozens
of
them
and
I'm
not
even
making
it
up.
I
mean,
and
you
know
again,
directional
signs
for
garage
sales,
yard
sales
and
open
houses
and
they're
all
in
the
public,
right-of-ways
and
and
they're,
not
necessarily
all
limited
to
weekends.
B
B
But,
but
I
think
you
know,
and
we've
got,
we've
got
a
lot
of
random
campaign
signs
that
are
still
out
there,
that
for
elections
that
are
well
over
with
at
this
point,
the
city
has
a
30-day
rule
that
the
signs
must
be
pulled
and
the
county
has
a
15-day
rule
and
there's
still
a
lot
of
signs
out
there
for
candidates
whose
elections
ended
on
on
primary
day.
So
I
just
would
like
to
see
us
be
a
little
bit
more
proactive
about
enforcing
the
sign
rules
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that
council
member
cummings.
E
What
most
people
don't
know
is
that
the
then
future
president
john
adams
successfully
defended
the
british
in
the
trial
that
followed
I'll
repeat
that
he
successfully
defended
the
british.
How
popular
was
that?
Okay?
So
here's
what
john
adams
said
to
jurors
in
a
statement
that
has
echoed
throughout
american
courtrooms
for
more
than
two
centuries.
E
Facts
are
stubborn
things
and
whatever
may
be
our
wishes,
our
inclinations
or
the
dictates
of
our
passions.
They
cannot
alter
the
state
of
facts
and
evidence.
He
went
on
to
say
the
law
in
all
vicitudes
of
government
fluctuations
of
passions
or
flights
of
enthusiasm
will
persevere,
a
steady
undeviating
course.
It
will
not
bend
to
the
uncertain
wishes,
imaginations
and
wanton
tempers
of
men
and
all
ad
or
women.
E
E
I
say
that
because
I'm
we
get
inundated
with
emails
and
phone
calls,
and
I
want
to
meet
with
you
and
I
want
to
talk
to
you
and
I
want
to
know
what
you
think
about
this.
I
will
not,
and
I
cannot
comment
on
anything,
that's
going
to
come
up
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
I
just
won't.
We
can't.
So
it's
not
me.
It's
john
adams.
Thank
you.
B
So
you
know
for
the
same
reason,
we
can
read
all
the
emails
and
letters
that
we
get,
but
we
can't
use
those
as
testimony
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
So
I
appreciate
what
your
comments
are
mark
because
I
you
know,
I
feel
the
same
I
mean
and-
and
it's
not
meant
to
disrespect
anybody,
it's
the
law,
so
we
we
are
bound
by
those
laws
and
we
must
follow
the
laws
we
don't
ever
communicate
to
each
other
about
anything
we're
going
to
ever
vote
on.
B
B
We
all
heard
from
a
lot
of
residents
who
wanted
to
meet
with
us
never
once
and
city
manager
sat
in
on
one
meeting
with
me
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
not
once
did
we
ever
render
an
opinion
about
anything
that
was
going
to
be
discussed
at
the
at
the
council
meeting.
Because
of
that
reason,
so
I
I
respect
what
you're
saying
yes.
A
I
hope
you'll
allow
me
to
kind
of
just
mention
a
nuance
that
maybe
most
people
aren't
aware
of.
You
know
when
you
talk
about
the
jury
and
when
jurors
are
asked,
questions
before
they're
impaneled
as
a
jury
and
and
the
the
attorney's
jobs
are
to
see
if
any
of
the
jurors
might
have
a
bias
against
either
the
the
plaintiff
or
the
defendant
to
the
state
or
the
defendant
or
just
their
own
views
with
respect
to
the
law.
A
The
fact
that
they
have
a
an
opinion
doesn't
necessarily
render
them
unsuitable
to
serve
as
a
juror
and
they're
frequently
asked
the
question.
Well,
can
you
keep
an
open
mind,
and
will
you
assure
the
court
that
you'll
base
your
decision
on
the
evidence
and
testimony
presented
and
if
they
say
yes,
that's
the
end
of
it
with
respect
to
judges,
it
goes
further
and
the
laws
that
and
the
rules
of
procedures
relating
to
judges
is
that
if
any
of
the
parties
feel
like
the
judge
is
not
impartial.
A
There's
no
obligation
on
the
part
of
the
person
making
those
allegations
to
prove
the
judge
is
not
impartial
and
the
judge
can't
even
make
an
argument
to
say:
hey,
I
can
be
impartial
in
this
case.
The
allegation
is
sufficient
to
suggest
that
the
one
of
the
litigants
may
not
be
receiving
or
will
not
receive
a
fair
and
impartial
trial
and
under
those
circumstances
the
judge
has
no
choice
but
to
recuse
themselves
from
participating
as
a
judge.
A
So
you
are
not
serving
as
a
juror
you're
serving
as
a
judge
and
that's
why
you
clearly,
I'm
sure
can
all
say
that
you'll
remain
on
open-minded
and
listen
to
the
evidence
and
testimony.
But
it
goes
beyond
that.
You
have
to
give
the
appearance
of
fairness
and
impartiality
and
and
that's
what
these
rules
of
ex
parte
communications
are
all
about.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
B
This
was
going
to
be
a
quasi-judicial
hearing
on
the
subject
of
the
city
marketplace
property.
The
applicant
has
withdrawn
their
application
from
the
city
and
the
property
owner
has
acknowledged,
and
they
have
both
withdrawn
the
entire
request,
so
this
hearing
will
not
take
place
today.
Is
there
anything
further?
B
We
need
to
do
on
this
david,
no,
okay,
so
well,
we
had
to
wait
until
12
noon
to
to
make
that
statement
on
the
record,
because
it
was
scheduled
for
a
time
certain
due
to
the
amount
of
time
that
was
going
to
be
involved
in
the
hearing.
So
for
the
time
being,
at
least
this
hearing
is
no
longer
being
considered
by
the
city,
council
or
the
city
staff,
and
it
is
officially
withdrawn
by
the
applicant
and
the
property
owner.
C
F
F
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
will
not
happen
again.
I've
already
started
working
on
the
evaluation
for
the
current
fiscal
year.
You'll
have
it
by
the
end
of
next
week,
and
so
we'll
have
that.
Hopefully,
if
we
can
have
our
meetings
to
discuss
after
you
have
a
chance
to
fill
it
out
and
then
hopefully
we
can
get
that
one
taken
care
of
sometime
in
october,
yeah.
K
I'd
like
to
address
this
to
the
hr
department,
you
and
I
had
this
conversation,
so
you
already
know
how
I
feel,
but
I
think
this
job
evaluation
is
the
worst
that
I
have
ever
had
to
work
with,
and
this
is
the
third
one
I've
had
to
fill
out
now,
and
I
told
you
that
I
thought
it
was
the
worst
and
I
was
on
the
record.
I
put
it
on
karen's
thing.
K
This
is
no
reflection
on
karen,
but
it
is
almost
impossible
to
fill
this
out
with
any
degree
of
accuracy
and
I
feel
I
feel
badly
for
karen,
that
her
potential
raise
is
based
on
such
a
nebulous
form.
So
I
guess
that's
my
soapbox
again,
but
I
really
think
we
need
to.
We
need
to
tighten
up
the
evaluation.
B
K
E
B
I
think
it's
important
that
somebody
who's
been
in
corporate
america
has
a
different
perspective,
because
some
of
these
forms
are
government
sort
of
forms
and
and
that
you're
right
they
don't
necessarily
apply
to
specific
jobs,
and
it
makes
it
very
difficult
to
do
evaluations
and
I'm
sure
karen
doesn't
love
sitting
there
filling
out
all
the
stuff
she's
got
to
fill
out
for
her
portion
of
it
either.
You
know
I
it's
almost
counterproductive
to
some
extent
jaha
go
ahead.
D
B
I
have
mixed
feelings
about
this
particular
review
only
because
there
were
a
lot
of
circumstances
that
were
what
I
consider
to
be
deficient,
but
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
the
details
here.
I
will
have
a
discussion
with
karen
about
that
separate
of
this
meeting,
but
just
because
I
had
I
had
some
concerns.
B
I
know
we've
worked
through
most
of
the
issues
on
the
travel
policy,
which
was
an
ongoing
discussion
between
karen
and
myself
for
the
last
year
or
so,
and
we
finally
got
something
on
paper.
I
think
there's
a
few
tweaks
that
we
need
to
work
on
with
that
as
well,
but
I
I
don't
begrudge
anybody
the
opportunity
to
to
have
a
reasonable
annual
increase
in
salary
based
on
their
their
their
skill
set
and
their
and
the
amount
of
work
that's
involved
in
their
position,
and
I
would
support
council
member
cummings
recommendation.
K
A
A
C
C
E
C
I
would
just
go
on
the
record
and
say
why
are
we
even
doing
evaluations,
then
I
mean
you're
asking
for
two
council
members
to
just
go
by
how
they
feel,
but
yet
other
council
members
had
to
sit
and
and
fill
out,
an
evaluation
which
is
basically
going
to
be
based
on
whether
they
would
get
a
raise
or
not.
So
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
conundrum
just
wanna,
throw
that
out
there.
I
I
just
don't
think
it's
right
if
we
weren't
sitting
that
we're
going
to
be
basing.
B
Yeah,
if,
if
I
can
just
interject
here,
I
you
know
mr
levin,
I
I
would
respectfully
ask
that
this
is
a
specific,
unique
circumstance
that
perhaps
I
think,
as
I've
observed
here,
there's
three
of
three
who
actually
did
the
evaluations,
who
all
concur
that
a
four
percent
increases
is
warranted.
We
would
have
the
quorum
anyway.
It
can.
We
just
work
it
with
three,
since
we
were
the
only
three
that
were
seated
during
the
term
of
this
interview
of
this
review.
A
B
E
A
And
that's
a
good
example,
and
there
are
then
there
are
others
where
you
may
have
to
support
a
decision
that
was
made
prior
to
the
time
that
you
took
office.
So
I
guess
the
best
that
I
can
say
is
that,
to
the
extent
that
you
need
to
rely
upon
the
opinions
of
prior
city
council
members
that
can
layer
into
your
decision-making
process,
I
I
don't
have
an
answer
better
than
that.
C
Well
again,
I
just
you
know
and
the
reason
why
I'm
being
facetious
about
this
is
because
I
I
went
over
this
evaluation
as
well.
If
I
were
to
fill
it
out-
and
I
agree,
it
is
terrible
and
so
you're
asking
people
to
weigh
in
on
someone's.
Let's
face
it,
you
know
whether
they're
going
to
get
an
increase
in
their
their
living
pay
or
not.
But
at
the
same
time
now
here
we
sit
and
we
have
two
council
members
that
are
just
being
asked
to
weigh
it,
and
I
don't
feel
comfortable
with
that.