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Thank
you
very
much
now
we'll
move
on
to
item
three
public
comments
for
items
not
on
the
agenda.
If
there's
any
individuals
here
in
the
audience
or
on
Zoom
that
we
should
speak
on
items
that
are
not
on
the
agenda
and
tonight
we
have
a
study
session
that
is
listed
but
other
than
that
are
there
any
members
of
the
public
I.
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Good
evening,
honorable
mayor
vice
mayor,
see
councilmember
I'm
honored
to
be
here
tonight
to
talk
about
outdoor
dining
regulations
in
both
city
streets
and
private
property,
Darcy
Smith
assistant
city
manager,
so
I'll
be
kicking
this
off.
We
have
quite
a
long
presentation,
but
that's
mainly
because
this
is
a
robust
subject
and
I'll
just
start
by
saying
this
is
an
exciting
thing,
I
think,
because
what
we
saw
during
the
pandemic
is
a
lot
of
people
like
outdoor
dining,
so
we're
here
to
talk
tonight
really
about
how
the
city
may
consider
regulations
to
continue
that.
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So
it's
a
study
session
I'll
cover
the
objective
briefly
give
you
some
background.
I
will
turn
it
over
to
heywon
Ritchie,
the
city
engineer
and
deputy
director
for
Public
Works
to
cover
the
draft
regulations
for
outdoor
dining
facilities
on
private
property,
which
I'm
sorry
I'm,
public
property
in
the
form
of
parklets,
which
are
in
city
streets
and,
more
specifically
in
the
downtown
on
San,
Mateo,
Avenue,
so
very
limited
defined
area.
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So
that
will
be
the
bulk
of
the
presentation
and
part
of
his
presentation
will
also
cover
the
impact
on
businesses
with
outdoor
dining
that
were
established
during
the
pandemic,
and
we
did
provide
notice
to
those
businesses.
You
received
a
comment
letter
this
afternoon
from
one
of
those
businesses
I,
believe
we
have
audience
members
who
represent
them,
but
we
did
do
the
Outreach
to
those
business
owners
both
in
the
downtown
and
to
these
existing
businesses
and
we'll
close
with
tonight's
recommended
action
related
to
the
study
session.
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So
I'll
cover
the
background
again.
Why
are
we
here
well
hard
to
believe?
Almost
three
years
ago,
the
pandemic
started
I
think
we
can
all
breathe
a
sigh
of
relief
that
it's
winding
down,
but
that
sort
of
means
more
work
for
cities,
because
in
the
beginning
you
know
we
had
a
different
body
of
work
about
worrying
about
restaurants,
going
out
of
business
when
their
indoor
dining
was
limited
or
actually
completely
eliminated
for
some
businesses,
literally
overnight
city
and
county
offered
grants
to
support
those
businesses
during
that
tough
time.
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You
might
remember
the
state
and
city
allowed
businesses
to
set
up
temporary
outdoor
dining
or
operations
on
private
and
public
property,
also
included
things
like
Fitness
facilities,
personal
services
uses.
Some
of
those
uses
are
entirely
back
to
indoor
operations,
but
what
we
saw
with
dining
is
that
people
actually
enjoyed
it
had
a
robust
menu
of
benefits
kind
of
beyond
the
pandemic,
which
is
why
we're
here
tonight.
So
during
the
pandemic,
the
EOC
was
activated,
as
you
might
recall,
and
the
city
issued
two
executive
orders.
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The
first
one
in
June
2020
allowed
tempura
outdoor
dining
on
public
and
private
property,
subject
to
some
defined
requirements
in
August
of
2020.
Those
were
changed
to
be
a
little
more
robust
and
cover
more
outdoor
operations,
such
as
card
rooms,
Fitness
facilities,
personal
services
and
restaurants.
And
again
there
were
requirements
set
in
place,
but
to
some
extent
they
were
just
relaxed,
so
those
emergency
Provisions,
spun
up
during
the
pandemic,
were
somewhat
lenient.
They
waived
sort
of
typical
standards
that
the
city
would
apply
waived.
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Permit
processes
which
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
tonight,
because
again,
one
of
the
main
regulatory
functions
of
government
is
to
regulate
through
permits.
Some
parking
requirements
are
waived
and
then
enforcement
actions,
of
course,
were
waived.
This
really
helped
businesses
I
mean
it
really
helped
them.
As
you'll
hear
from
some
of
our
business
owners
maintain
operations
when
indoor
operations
were
reduced
or
prohibited,
it
allowed
them
to
operate
in
a
safe
Manner,
and
it
really
kept
those
those
businesses
alive
during
the
pandemic.
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Important
to
note
that
what
we
allowed
during
the
pandemic
is
a
little
bit
different
than
what
we're
talking
about
tonight.
We
allowed
sidewalks
or
parking
areas
that
were
immediately
in
front
of
the
business
as
the
preferred
location.
We
did
not
allow
parklets.
At
that
time.
We
had
some
concerns
about
safety
and
Aesthetics
and
just
begin
throwing
them
up
overnight.
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We
want
the
council
to
be
thoughtful,
deliberate
in
their
actions
and
to
balance
the
needs
of
all
users
of
the
streets
and
other
needs
like
parking,
and
also
to
allow
the
city
engineering
division
to
optimize
safety
and
design
of
these,
but
really
important
to
note.
They
provide
a
community
benefit,
they
activate
the
street.
They
provide
a
pedestrian
friendly
experience.
They
get
people
outdoors
and
I
think
we've
seen
that
that
promotes
kind
of
a
healthy
lifestyle,
healthy
environment.
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So
again
we're
here
tonight
to
talk
about
this
transition.
Why
are
we
here?
Well,
in
October
of
last
year,
Governor
Gavin
Newsom
announced
that
he
intends
to
that
this
covid-19
state
of
emergency
that
started
back
in
March
2020
will
end
on
February
28
2023..
So
with
that
in
mind,
many
other
cities,
just
like
us,
have
been
here
tonight
about
that
transition.
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How
you
make
the
transition
from
some
temporary
emergency
regulations
to
permanent
regulations
to
serve
the
city
for
a
more
permanent
period
into
the
future,
so
with
that
upcoming
anticipated
end
of
the
state
of
related
local
emergency
orders?
What
I
mentioned
previously
the
city's
executive
orders,
those
with
sunset,
so
staff
recommends
adopting
new
permanent
regulations
and
permit
processes
for
outdoor
dining
again.
This
would
allow
restaurants
throughout
the
city
an
opportunity
to
offer
outdoor
dining
beyond
the
pandemic.
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That
was
the
feedback
we
got
that
meeting
and
carrying
it
forward.
You
gave
us
feedback
at
that
meeting
and
based
on
the
feedback.
Additional
work
which
Ms
Ritchie
will
highlight
was
completed
on
the
parklet
program,
so
we
have
that
before
you
tonight,
but
again
we
also
have
these
robust
new
private
property
regulations
and
again
that's
based
on
what
we've
heard
from
the
business
community
that
but
outdoor
dining
has
helped
their
economics
and
they
would
like
to
continue
it.
So
that's
presented
for
the
the
city
council's
consideration.
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So
I
like
to
start
these
policy
meetings
study
sessions
by
focusing
on
sort
of
what
we
used
as
our
purpose
and
guiding
policy
objectives.
City
council
may
consider
these
when
citing
policies
deciding
whether
and
how
to
regulate
these
land
uses
and
how
to
approach
the
permit
processes.
Because,
again
right
now,
we
don't
have
established
permit
processes
for
either
parklets
or
dining
on
private
property
unless
it's
wrapped
into
a
building
permit.
So
we
have
process
permits
Through,
The
Years,
building
permits
for
restaurants,
where
they
show
it
on
their
building,
permit
plans.
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They
provide
parking
for
it
and
it's
part
of
the
issued
building
permit
and
it's
reviewed
by
the
city,
but
how
the
pandemic
has
worked.
Is
these
kind
of
sprung
up
outside
of
a
new
a
brand
new
restaurant
establishing
itself
through
typical
building
permits,
so
I
think
we
need
a
special
permit
process
for
this
so
again,
we're
driven
by
allowing
restaurants
the
opportunity
to
offer
outdoor
dining
for
economic
and
Community
vitality
and
there's
a
whole
host
of
benefits
for
that
I
won't
write
all
that
off,
but
there's
health
benefits,
there's
social
benefits.
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There's
a
lot
of
benefits,
benefits
the
business,
but
I
want
to
emphasis.
I
think
it
also
benefits
the
community.
People
enjoy
outdoor
dining
next
provide
an
active
pedestrian-friendly
Street
Experience,
it
activates
the
street
when
you
have
that,
like
sidewalk
dining,
it
sort
of
turns
it
into
more
of
a
less
of
a
car-centric
experience
to
more
of
a
by
pedestrian
or
bicyclist
experience,
which
I
think
we
can
all
agree
is
good
for
our
city
and
the
vision
that
was
laid
out
in
the
transit
quarters
plan
and
we've
built
upon
through
other
plants.
D
Important,
though,
to
balance
the
needs
of
all
users
of
the
streets,
think
about
accessibility
for
those
who
are
disabled,
also
to
ensure
aesthetically
pleasing
design.
That's
again
why
we
didn't
want
them
just
sprun
up
overnight.
We
want
to
have
thoughtful
designs
for
these
that
are
compatible
with
our
long-range
plans.
Again.
The
transit
course
plan,
which
has
design
standards
and
our
streetscape
plan
for
the
downtown.
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D
You
also
hear
Miss
Richie
talk
about
how
important
it
is
to
provide
adequate
separation
between
the
pedestrians
and
the
diner
protection
of
the
parklets
from
vehicle
traffic.
I
won't
expand
upon
the
worst
things
that
can
happen
with
these
parklets,
but
you
just
want
to
make
sure
they're
safe
number
one.
When
you
put
something
that
close
to
cars,
we
want
to
establish
new
design
and
operational
standards
to
provide
that
appropriate
regulatory
oversight.
D
Again,
these
are
land
uses,
so
they're,
typically
regulated
through
zoning
requirements,
establish
efficient
and
streamlined
permit
processes
to
the
extent
possible,
through
mainly
administrative
permits,
approved
by
the
cities
and
last
setting
appropriate
fees.
So
you'll
hear
about
fees.
Tonight
again,
these
are
new
fees
and
we
took
guidance
from
the
city
council's
past
direction
for
adequate
cost
recovery
for
fees
especially
related
to
private
businesses.
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Okay,
creamy
normal
wear
and
City
Council
Members
I'm,
haywon
Richie,
the
city
engineer
and
Deputy
Public
Works.
Director
I
would
like
to
First
briefly
review
what
a
parklet
is
provide
an
update
on
the
work.
That's
been
done
since
the
last
study
session
review
some
of
the
requirements
and
directions
that
were
provided
at
that
last
study
session
and
as
Smith,
the
assistant
city
manager
mentioned
review,
The
Feast
study
and
the
next
steps
oops
yep.
So
a
parklet
is
a
temporary
sidewalk
extension
that
provides
outdoor
dining
for
restaurants.
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Particles
are
typically
installed
within
the
parking
Lane
in
commercial
districts.
Regulated
our
program
is
regulated
by
Public
Works
administrative
permits
required
both
to
construct
and
for
the
temporary
use
of
the
city
street.
Most
cities
charge
an
annual
use
of
space
fee
similar
to
rent
for
use
of
the
public
Street
and
to
offset
the
loss
in
meter
revenue
and
for
annual
inspections.
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So
I
would
like
to
briefly
point
out
the
image
that
you
see
before
you
on
this
slide,
which
is
to
the
left
sidewalk
with
the
businesses
fronting
the
sidewalk
and
then
within
the
parking
Lane
right.
Adjust
Jason
to
the
sidewalk
is
an
extension
of
that
area
for
added
outdoor
dining.
As
you
see
in
the
image
as
well,
there's
a
concrete
k-rail
that
separates
the
vehicular
traffic
from
the
diners.
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E
So
in
general,
for
the
sighting
there'll
be
a
curbside
on
San
Mateo
Avenue
between
Huntington
Avenue
and
El
Camino
Real
directly
in
front
of
the
associated
restaurants.
We're
on
street
parking
spaces
exist.
They
may
take
up
to
one
to
two
parking
spaces
with
setbacks
from
Corners
travel
lanes
and
adjacent
parking.
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E
And,
of
course,
first
and
foremost
in
our
minds
is
protecting
the
diners
that
are
within
the
parklet
space.
Railings
must
separate
the
parklet
from
the
street
and
surrounding
parking
spaces
for
safety.
Some
communities
have
chosen
to
have
artists
paint
the
krills,
as
you
can
see,
in
the
image
on
the
top
to
make
them
more
aesthetically
pleasing,
as
shown
we're
taking
it
one
step
further
and
requiring
the
cable
to
be
architecturally
screened,
cable
barriers
can
be
in
an
integrated
part
of
a
parklet.
As
you
see
in
the
image
below.
E
Foreign
ly,
in
terms
of
the
parklet
siding
we
are
requiring
there
to
be
setbacks
from
the
travel
Lane
of
three
feet
or
sorry
two
feet
and
between
the
adjacent
parking
of
three
feet.
Minimum
reflective
markers
would
need
to
be
affixed
to
the
parklet
or
a
post,
provided
that's
installed
outside
the
travel
way.
E
So
I
would
like
to
next
review.
The
Feast
study
that
has
been
prepared
staff
recommends
new
fees
for
the
parklet
permit,
be
established
a
staff
complete
completed
user
study,
which,
with
cost
estimates
for
City
staff,
required
to
review
and
process
and
approve
the
parklets,
which
is
included
in
attachment
3
of
the
staff
report
packet.
E
The
fee
study
was
prepared
consistent
with
city
council
policy
to
maximize
cost
recovery
for
development
related
Services.
The
new
parklet
permit
application
fee
is
proposed
to
be
1886
dollars.
The
current
the
city
currently
has
established
fees
in
the
fiscal
year,
20
2022-23,
Master
Fee
schedule
for
an
encroachment
permit
of
350
and
a
revocable
encroachment
permit
of
615.
That
includes
the
review
and
time
required
to
process
these
various
permits.
E
Staff
also
recommends
a
proclip
permit.
Annual
use
of
space
fee
be
established.
This
is
an
annual
fee
rental
fee,
charged
for
the
temporary
private
use
of
the
city
public
parking
space,
as
well
as
to
cover
the
cost
of
the
annual
City
inspection
staff,
has
researched
the
fees
and
processes
required
by
near
advisory
restrictions.
Looking
at
the
first
two
years
of
total
costs,
we
looked
at
the
first
two
total
years
as
some
cities
reduced
the
initial
fees
but
charge
higher
annual
use
and
maintenance
fees.
E
The
total
fee
for
the
permits
and
the
two
years
of
use
ranges
from
a
low
of
about
3
500
to
as
high
as
9
9
400,
with
an
average
of
6
500..
After
the
last
study
session,
Direction
was
provided
to
require
review
of
the
parklets
by
the
Architectural
Review
Committee.
However,
further
study,
analysis
and
comparison
of
what
other
cities
require
staff
does
not
recommend
this,
as
it
would
add,
an
additional
three
thousand
dollars
to
the
fee
and
lengthen
the
processing
time.
E
E
So
our
next
steps
include
planning
to
take
the
parklet
ordinance
to
City
Council
in
March
April
of
2023
to
begin
parklet
permit
program
after
adoption.
This
concludes
my
presentation,
and
this
is
an
update
on
the
parklet
program
within
public
right-of-way,
which
staff
will
finalize
and
return
to
council
for
adoption.
Soon.
Next
I
would
like
to
hand
off
the
presentation
to
Peter
Gilley
to
review
the
outdoor
dining
on
private
property.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
So
the
regulations
for
outdoor
dining
on
private
property
are
intended
to
be
focused
on
providing
restaurants
with
the
opportunity
if,
if
their
site
has
has
room
for
it
to
have
permanent
outdoor
dining
and
that
can
range
from
in
some
cases,
just
a
couple
tables
and
chairs
to
a
much
larger
installations
that
may
have
structures
and
Equipment.
The
regulations
would
also
establish
a
permitting
process
for
this
San
Bruno's
had
outdoor
dining
on
on
private
property
even
prior
to
the
pandemic.
F
So,
as
the
slider
shows,
we
already
have
a
parking
requirement
of
one
space
for
every
100
square
feet
of
dining
area,
so
the
more
dining
area
you
add,
you
increase
the
amount
of
of
parking
demand.
Also,
if
you
propose
to
put
a
outdoor
dining
area
where
there's
currently
parking,
then
you
are
decreasing
the
supply
of
parking
that
might
be
needed
for
the
building.
F
So
if
parking
is
impacted,
then,
based
on
the
current
ordinances,
you
would
either
have
to
provide
the
parking
elsewhere
to
offset
the
loss
or,
if
you're,
in
the
transit
corridors
area
which
all
of
downtown
is
in.
You
have
the
opportunity
to
pay
a
parking
and
Lou
fee
and
we'll
go
into
that
a
little
bit
more.
F
But
since
this
is
Aid
activity,
we
want
to
encourage
it's
recommended
that
the
regulations
have
an
exemption
and
what
is
being
put
forward
as
a
as
a
proposal,
is
that
the
first
200
square
feet
of
a
private
property
outdoor
dining
area
be
exempt
from
any
type
of
of
of
of
parking
requirement.
If
that
exemption
did
not
exist,
200
square
feet
would
equate
to
two
parking
spaces.
F
The
graphic
on
the
left.
Imagine
that
is
a
bird's
eye
view
or
a
a
plan
view
looking
looking
downward.
So
this
is
showing
the
sidewalking
gray,
but
the
storefront
of
the
of
of
the
restaurant
isn't
right
at
the
sidewalk
there's
a
little
bit
of
private
property
in
between
it,
which
is
very
common
in
in
most
downtowns
in
including
in
San
Bruno.
So
this
could
be
an
area
that
you
could
have
have
outdoor
dining
in
and
in
the
downtown.
We
don't
really
have
any
areas
like
this.
F
F
F
For
the
this
example,
which
is
just
as
I
said,
it's
an
illustration,
it
is
not
an
actual
site.
The
area
that
we're
talking
about
is
800
square
feet.
That's
the
area
that
has
the
tables
in
them,
based
on
what
what
we're,
what
we're
proposing
that
first
200
square
feet
again
is
exempt
from
parking.
So
you
take
that
800,
you
minus
the
200
square
foot
exemption
your
left,
your
left,
adding
600
square
feet
of
area
that
needs
to
have
have
the
parking
addressed
based
on
our
current
parking
ordinances.
F
That
requires
six
parking
spaces
now,
as
noted
before
in
the
transit
corridor
plan
area
of
which
all
of
downtown
is
in,
there
is
the
ability
to
pay
a
new
fee
for
those
spaces,
so
the
the
business
owner
would
not
have
to
find
those
spaces
Elsewhere
on
their
property.
They
have
an
in
Luffy
option
and
I
do
have
a
slide
upcoming.
That
has
has
what
those
in-lu
fees
are.
F
F
In
this
illustration,
it
happens
to
be
under
200
square
feet
again
so
again,
you're
you're
under
200
you're
not
affecting
existing
parking.
You
could
be
Exempted
from
having
to
add
any
parking,
but
let's
say
this:
business
wanted
to
take,
put
more
more
tables
and
actually
wanted
to
take
out
two
parking
spaces,
so
the
math
on
this
one.
This
adds
up
to
a
total
of
600
square
feet
used
for
outdoor
dining.
Again,
you
get
the
200
square
foot
exemption
that
leaves
you
with
400
square
feet
of
expanded
outdoor
outdoor
dining
area.
F
That
equates
to
four
parking
spaces,
but
in
this
case
they
took
out
two
parking
spaces
to
put
the
outdoor
dining
in.
So
it's
really
in
this
case
there
are
six
parking
spaces
in
which
to
have
to
reconcile
either
providing
it
elsewhere
on
the
site
or,
if
you're,
in
the
area
that
has
the
Luffy
being
able
to
pay
that
in
Luffy.
F
F
There's
there's
going
to
be
standard
regulations
such
as,
if
you
are
have
an
outdoor,
dining
area
adjacent
to
a
neighboring
property,
there
will
be
a
requirement
that
you
have
some
type
of
wall
or
fence
in
between
the
properties
for
safety
reasons
and
screening
oftentimes.
The
business
owner
will
want
to
do
that
anyway.
There's
also
going
to
be
some
basic
rules
about
not
not
blocking
hydrants
utilities.
Code
complaint
is
very
important.
F
The
fee
that
has
been
is
being
proposed
is
one
thousand
eight
hundred
eighty
nine
dollars
that
is
based
on
a
fee
study
that
was
done
to
look
at
if
such
a
permit
existed
and
the
number
of
hours
that
would
go
into
its
its
review
this.
This
would
cost
cost
recover
that
in
some
cases
a
building
permit
may
be
required.
F
That
will
depend
on
the
scope
of
the
project
if
someone
is
just
putting
out
tables
and
chairs,
there's
no
need
for
a
building
permit,
but,
depending
on
the
extent
of
the
work,
a
permit
may
be
required.
The
fees
for
that
permit
is
based
on
the
valuation
of
that
of
that
project,
and
then,
lastly,
we
had
the
in-lu
fees
up
there
again.
This
is
only
for
the
transit
corridors.
Plan
in
the
in
Luffy
has
a
scale
that
for
the
one
to
five
spaces,
it's
just
under
three
thousand
dollars
per
space.
F
It
increases
as
you
pay
the
alufi
for
more
and
more
spaces
to
the
point
where
space
is
over
10
add
up
to
12
000.
the
program
for
those
in
Lou
fee,
specifically
Target
those
funds
towards
providing
parking
opportunities
in
downtown.
So
there
is
a
Nexus
between
the
fee
and
and
and
the
what
the
fee
would
be
used
for.
F
So
the
next
steps
would
be
to
finalize
the
regulations
based
on
Council
direction.
We
would
have
to
bring
those
back
to
hearings.
This
would
need
to
go
to
the
Planning
Commission
as
the
these
are
going
to
be
zoning
regulations.
Those
could
could
go
in
March
or
April
and
then
follow
with
with
Council
adoption
afterwards,
and
that
would
be
kind
of
the
the
overview
on
what
the
regulations
would
be.
But,
as
we
know,
we
have
some
existing
businesses
and
kind
of
the
major
question
is:
how
will
those
businesses
and
these
regulations
work?
F
So
we
have
some
imagery
of
three
operations
with
with
photos
of
of
a
before
and
after
so
we
have
have
JC
Bruno's
with
from
the
street
a
before
and
after
of
the
shot
of
of
the
location,
our
estimates
on
the
number
of
parking
spaces
that
were
converted.
We
in
this
case
we
don't
actually
know
the
full
outdoor
dining
size
so
only
to
if
this
ordinance
is
passed,
we'll
need
to
work
with
this
applicant
on
working
out
all
the
details,
but
it
and
here's
some
interior
views.
F
But
this
is
the
case,
particularly
because
of
its
location
in
the
downtown.
They
will
have
the
opportunity
to
use
this
space
for
outdoor
dining
because
of
the
ability
to
pay
for
parking
in
loot.
So
there
is
a
path
forward.
There
here
is
another
example
on
El
Camino.
This
site
is
outside
the
transit
corridor
plan,
so
based
on
our
current
regulations,
there
is
no
in
Luffy
option.
F
This
is
also
a
case
where
residential
parking
is
taking
up
and-
and
that
is
a
concern
of
staffs
health
and
safety
codes-
would
have
to
be
met
with
whatever
the
final
outcome
is.
But
this
the
challenge
with
this
case
will
be
working
out
where
the
parking
will
end
up.
So
that
will
be
something
that
we
would
work
with
with
this
property
owner
for
then.
Lastly,
another
property
on
El
Camino.
F
F
So
that's
the
conclusion
of
the
private
property
section.
The
recommended
action
for
Council
overall
is
is
to
hold
the
study
session,
take
public
input
and
provide
staff
with
Direction
on
both
the
parklet
aspects
of
it,
as
well
as
as
the
private
property
aspects
and
staff's
available
for
any
questions.
Thank.
B
One
thing
I
just
want
to
clarify
at
the
one
restaurant
with
the
four
units
above
it,
which
is
on
El
Camino
San
Felipe
celias,
so
that
is
for
the
apartments,
and
there
are
four
Apartments
four
parking
spots
that
were
under.
So
that's
what
you're
referencing
I
just
didn't
hear
you
mention
the
number
of
of
spots.
That's.
F
G
Do
we
have
an
estimate
of
what
the
construction
cost
of
a
parklet
typically
is
now
I
understand
that
you
know
you
can
you
can
go,
you
can
go
easy
and
simple.
You
can
go
super
fancy,
so
it
it
but
just
kind
of
in
general,
because
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
what
the
total
outlay
would
be
for
a
business
to
try
to
establish
a
parklet,
because
that's
because
all
that
construction
would
be
on
top
of
our
permit
fees.
H
Sure,
thank
you,
council,
member
Tom,
Hamilton,
Javon,
Grogan
city
manager,
as
you
allude
it
to
it,
is
a
very
wide
range
right
and
part
of
your
question
would
be
what
what
a
business
would
pay.
Oftentimes
businesses
may
do
the
work
themselves,
they
may
hire
contractors
and
then
certainly
the
Aesthetics
of
them
can
be
a
wide
range.
I
would
say
a
very,
very
general
number
is
somewhere
between
ten
to
sixty
thousand
dollars,
and
certainly
they
can
go
upwards
of
sixty
thousand
dollars
for
some
of
the
nicer
apocalypse
that
you've
seen.
H
G
Great
thank
you
and
I.
It's
incredibly
important
that
the
krlb
included
I,
know
I,
remember
during
the
the
pandemic,
driving
on
Columbus
Avenue
in
San
Francisco
by
parklets
that
have
been
established
and
they
was
just
Plywood
And.
You
know
the
speed
that
people
were
going
40
next
to
plywood.
It
was
insane
so
yeah.
We
don't
want
that.
G
A
G
G
So
we
can
talk
about
that
when
we
get
to
the
comment
part
after
later
on
tonight,
and
then
my
well
I
think
it's
my
last
question
yeah
my
last
question
on
the
parking
fees
and
parking
requirements.
I
remember
the
the
Planning
Commission
recommended
and
the
city
council
adopted
rules
specifically
just
for
the
downtown
Corridor
for
buildings
built
before
I
want
to
say
2005,
but
I,
don't
remember
what
the
year
cutoff
was
that
reduced
the
parking
requirements
are
those
reduced
parking
requirements.
What
we've
been
talking
about
tonight.
A
H
A
I
H
A
H
Those
fees
I
was
reminded
of
actually
what
it
cost
to
create
a
parking
space.
Those
parking
and
Luffy's
are
meant
to
be
a
fee
that
is
structured
significantly
below
our
cost
to
add
a
additional
parking
space,
and
so
when
we
did
the
Downtown
parking
study
and
did
the
Nexus
study
for
our
parking
in
Luffy.
That
fee
is
to
both
be
supportive
of
businesses
that
may
take
away
parking
or
not
have
enough
parking
and
help
create
funding
for
a
future
parking
garage.
A
H
Responsibility
would
first
go
to
the
business
in
the
event
of
a
bankruptcy
right.
While
we
can
require
them,
we
would
be
like
any
other
creditor,
and
so
what
we
would
likely
do
is
certainly
remove
it
if
it's
a
problem
and
then
attempt
to
collect,
and
certainly
if
it
was
a
restaurant
that
went
out
of
business
before
we
incurred
that
expense.
We
would
certainly
make
sure
that
it's
in
a
safe
condition
and
see
if
a
new
tenant
would
like
to
reutilize
that
parklet.
H
Would
we
handle
into
our
public
works
department
in
general?
What
a
revocable
encroachment
permit
requires
is
that
the
it
is
the
business
that
has
the
responsibility
to
remove
it
and
and
and
reinstall
it,
and
so
they
are
being
given
the
the
exclusive
right
to
you,
utilize
that
space
But.
If
we
need
to
do
maintenance,
whether
it's
Paving
or
utilities,
it
is
their
responsibility
to
pay
to
remove
it
and
to
reinstall
it
of.
A
J
B
C
B
K
L
Really
don't
have
any
questions.
I
just
want
to
put
some
input
like
I'm
standing
with
celias
I'm
standing
with
Maus
walls,
I'm
standing
with
the
corner
and
I'm
standing
with
other
small
business
restaurants
in
awful
of
our
parking
spaces
having
the
table
out
there.
It's
just
made
it
more
inviting
for
the
community
inviting
for
families.
Everything
is
so
family
friendly,
and
you
know
our
place.
Is
you
know
so
many
people
residents
come
and
say:
I
used
to
come
here
with
my
deceased
mom
I
miss
deceased
dead,
and
oh,
my
god.
L
When
I
get
these
recipes,
the
peach
cobbler's
nostalgic,
it
makes
me
go
back
to
that.
Revert
back
to
that
and
we're
just
a
place
that
want
to
stay
in
the
community
and
struggling
business.
Just
Remodel
and
all
we
want
to
do
is
just
open
it
up
for
the
community
as
we
have,
and
with
these
stipulations
that
would
would
be,
would
propose.
L
It
would
hinder
that
from
us
generating
any
income,
and
if
we
don't
generate
any
income,
then
the
city
doesn't
generate
any
income
and
from
our
little
part
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
since
we've
been
there,
they
have
always
used
the
little
one
or
two
spots
that
we
have.
We
have
it
very
safe
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
we
just
us
and
the
other
restaurants
I
stand
with
them.
We
just
want
to
continue
doing
so.
L
We
have
not
had
any
problems
with
our
community,
our
community
welcomes
it
and
we
welcome
our
community
and
we're
just
trying
to
survive
through
this
post-candemic
that
keeps
coming
back
and
forth
and
that
also
being
outdoor.
It
also
makes
it
a
bit
safer
and
it
keeps
the
flow
of
the
covet
even
down,
because
you're
not
so
much
inside
you're
outside.
So
it's
a
win-win
for
our
staff
for
the
community,
for
the
customers
as
well.
So
that's
all
we
had
to
say,
and
we
love
being
there.
L
We
want
to
continue
being
there
and
we
love
this
community
and
we're
here
for
the
community.
That's
why
we
made
it
so
Community
friendly
little
kids.
Come
in
there
they
play
the
arcade
for
free,
the
mini
arcade.
They
play
a
mini
pool
table
for
free,
it's
families
that
do
it.
It's
a
great
bonding
experience
as
family
time
at
the
dinner
table
should
be,
and
that's
what
we
bring
to
San
Bruno
and
that's
what
we
want
to
stay
and
do
and
that's
what
chef
may
wanted
to
say.
Thank
you
for
your
opinion.
A
B
M
M
The
latest
is
the
covet
19..
The
pandemic
not
only
threatened
the
physical
well-being
of
the
San
Bruno
residents,
but
also
to
the
mental
health,
and
it's
so
important
that
you
know
with
the
isolation.
So
when
we're
able
to
open
the
door
dining
out
for
our
customer,
especially
our
senior
and
it's
either
join
that
you
know
their
smile
getting
together
over
a
meal
that
really
really
lighten
up.
M
B
C
N
You
hear
me,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
I'd
like
to
talk
about
Camino
Corner.
Also,
we
have
been
going
there
since
probably
30
of
the
Year
30
of
the
35
years.
People
in
this
in
the
shop
know
everybody.
When
you
go
in,
you
see
people,
you
know
because
they're
regulars,
they
come
back
regularly.
When
they
were
closed,
we
would
we
were
devastated
because
that
was
our
to-go
place.
We
love
the
outdoor
space
and
there
is
plenty
of
parking
on
El
Camino.
N
N
If
we're
forced
to
eat
inside
the
tables
will
be
put
back
close
together
and
my
husband
and
myself
I
probably
won't
go
because
I
cannot
afford
to
be
sick,
I'm
a
senior
and
have
enough
other
things
going
together,
we'll
probably
just
not
go
so
anyway.
That's
all
I
have
to
say
we
enjoy
the
place.
The
staff
help
is
wonderful.
Tiffany
comes
out
and
talks
to
everybody.
She
knows
her
customers
and
in
fact
those
girls
know
what
you
order
before
you
even
order.
N
So
to
me,
it's
important
parking
is
never
ever
a
problem
unless
you
go
on
Sunday
morning,
that's
the
only
time
that
it's
busy,
but
every
restaurant
is
busy.
Look
at
Millbury
pancake
house,
there's
no
parking
there,
there's
they're
busy
on
Sunday,
but
any
other
day
of
the
week,
there's
loads
of
parking
and
please
keep
the
outdoor
outdoor
seating
available.
Thanks.
C
O
And
San
Bruno
I
wasn't
able
to
be
there
because
I'm
at
work,
but
just
wanted
to
say
that
I've
appreciated
everything
that
we've
been
able
to
do
and
I
understand
rules,
and
the
only
thing
is
that
I
do
have
a
lot
of
customers
still
that
prefer
to
sit
Outdoors
and
I'm.
Afraid
that
that
you
know
with
with
you
know,
make
my
customers
not
want
to
come.
If
we
don't
have
outdoor.
B
H
H
That
answer
is
yes,
but
so
currently
the
city
does
not
have
a
parking
in
Luffy
outside
of
downtown
you're
parking
in
Luffy
was
established
for
downtown,
with
the
Nexus
study
specifically
connected
to
providing
parking
facilities
downtown,
it
would
not
be
appropriate
for
us
to
extend
that
Nexus
to
someone
outside
of
downtown
and
have
them
pay
the
parking
in
Luffy
because
they're
so
far
away.
We
can't
make
that
that
legal
determination.
However,
there
are
a
couple
options
in
the
proposed
regulations
and
things
that
we
can
discuss
subject
to
council
Direction.
H
One
of
them
is
as
currently
structured.
The
regulations
do
allow
a
business
outside
of
downtown
to
remove
parking
spaces
if
they
can
provide
those
parking
spaces
elsewhere.
So
some
businesses
may
have
a
rear
parking
lot
that
they
can
say.
Okay,
you
know
we're
going
to
move
things
around
and
put
these
two
parking
spaces
that
were
in
the
rear
and
and
that
would
satisfy
the
removal
of
two
spaces
and
and
now
those
parking
spaces
are
just
in
the
rear,
a
business
could
lease
parking
or
have
an
arrangement
with
a
neighboring
property
that
to
say
hey.
H
You
are
a
business
that
is
closed
on
the
weekend
or
you're
close
when
we're
open.
Can
we
utilize
your
your
parking
and
have
an
arrangement,
and
we
would
review
that
and
say
well,
that's
totally
appropriate,
because
you're
now
making
parking
available,
the
council
could
direct
staff
to
lower
the
parking
thresholds
and
such
that
maybe
for
outdoor
dining.
The
thresholds
were
low,
where
the
parking
would
not
be
required.
H
However,
there's
another
option
and
connect
it
to
I
believe
it
was
in
2020
when
you
passed
your
parking
compliance
permit
that
allows
the
staff
to
make
determinations
for
on
special
circumstances,
and
so
I
would
actually
recommend
that
we
look
at
that
process,
because
every
property
is
unique.
I
think
you
really
need
to
consider
the
uniqueness
of
of
the
business
where
they're
located.
H
This
is
just
a
study
session,
and
so,
when
we
come
back
to
the
city
council,
we
can
certainly
include
details
on
how
a
special
compliance
permit
process
would
work
for
businesses
outside
of
downtown.
But
what
we're
really
looking
for
in
this
study
session
is
a
conversation
and
direction
for
Council
for
instructing
us
how
you
would
like
those
final
regulations
to
be
brought
back
to
you.
B
I
I
want
to
Circle
back
on
a
last
question.
I
had
earlier.
This
relates
to
the
public
right-of-way
dining,
not
the
parklet,
specifically
I
know
encroachment
permit.
We
do
require
them
to
have
a
general
liability,
but
what
about
for
the
businesses?
Because
now
they're
going
to
be
conducting
business
on
our
city
property
publicly
right
away?
Are
we
going
to
require
them
to
have
any
kind
of
insurance?
In
the
event?
There's
an
accident
that
happens
in
our
city,
property.
H
Sure,
thank
you,
council,
member
Alvarez,
certainly
with
the
revocable
encroachment
permit,
they
would
have
to
name
the
city
as
an
additional
insured
and
have
liability
coverage.
It's
probably
worth
mentioning
when
we
displayed
the
fees.
There
are
two
encroachment
permits.
It's
that
encroachment
permit
and
then
revocable
encroachment
permit.
Both
of
those
will
have
separate
insurances,
so
the
encroachment
permit
is
actually
for
the
contractor.
When
they're
doing
the
work
to
build
it,
they
get
an
encroachment
permit
to
be
in
the
right-of-way.
G
So
this
is
following
on
from
from
council
member
Salazar's
line
of
questioning
regarding
having
to
potentially
remove
a
temporarily
remove
a
parklet
in
the
invent
that
maintenance
is
required.
I
would
recommend
that
as
part
of
the
part
for
the
parklake
gets
built
in
the
first
place,
you
know
just
you
know
reasonable
things.
Obviously
you
know
stuff
happens
and
there's
emergencies
that
aren't
foreseen,
but
we
will
just
take
reasonable
steps
to
avoid
avoid
that
by
you
know
proactively
doing
work
before
before
a
partly
would
go
up.
G
B
D
Hi
Darcy
Smith
assistant,
State
manager,
so
that
you're,
referring
to
the
estimates
of
Staff
time,
attachment
three
in
the
staff
report,
where
we
estimated
time
for
different
positions
and
what
you
noted
was
the
Fire
Marshals
estimate
is
a
is
an
hour
of
work
at
a
fully
burdened
hourly
rate
of
about
248
dollars.
One
hour
for
the
parklet
permit
and
two
hours
for
the
private
property
outdoor
dining
facility
permit
and
the
basis
for
that
is
the
parklets
tend
to
be
somewhat
simpler
and
again.
D
J
How
do
we
find
ways
to
help
our
restaurant
owners
do
better
and
looking
at
the
the
parking
requirements
that
that's
something
for
individual
restaurants?
I?
Think?
That's
that's
noteworthy
that
you
look
at
it
in
a
case
by
case
you
look
at
them
by
Case
by
case
instead
of
saying,
okay,
we
need
so
many
parking
spaces,
so
I
appreciate
that
option
and
that
discretion
will
be
in
there.
J
People
come
in
if
and
they
need
a
parking
space
really
quick
to
get
in
get
their
working
downtown,
because
when
people
need
to
get
their
food
they
do
things
that
probably
aren't
the
best
thing
and
so
I
think
as
we're
doing
this,
that
we
should
be
considering
and
how
we
can
assist
those
restaurants
that
don't
have
spaces,
or
maybe
that's
too
much
money
to
have
outdoor
dining.
Maybe
you
just
need
a
for
a
sandwich
shop.
You
just
want
a
spot
difficult
to
park.
Downtown
and
taking
parklets
is
taking
away
spaces.
So
how
do
we?
J
How
do
we
find
the
best
fitting
need
for
the
different
restaurants
that
we
have
downtown
and
I
think
that
we
should
definitely
look
into
that
concurrently
as
we're
doing
this,
because
if
you
don't
have
the
funds
to
pay
for
a
parklet,
and
maybe
that's
not
your
thing-
that
it's
a
sit-down
dining
thing?
Isn't
your
thing
so
you're
you're
next
to
a
restaurant
that
is
going
to
have
the
the
parklet
and
you're
like
the
space
and,
what's
going
to
make
it
better
in
our
downtown?
J
Is
that
being
able
to
have
those
spaces
to
safely
pick
up
the
food
and
get
out?
So
that's
something
I
would
like
to
maybe
make
my
colleagues
can
talk
about
that.
We've
done
a
little
bit
of
it
downtown,
but
I
think
the
business
model
has
really
changed
and
we're
learning
this
from
covid
that
things
things
evolve
and
we
need
to
evolve
with
how
we
can
assist
getting
customers
in
and
out
of
our
downtown
and
not
take
up
so
much
parking.
A
G
B
B
I'm
not
sure
about
the
the
fees
when
we
say
not
full
recovery
but
partial
that
that's
a
lot
of
variable.
Maybe
staff
needs
to
examine
maybe
an
option
A
or
B.
Just
to
be
specific
on
that
on
your
first
comment
in
regards
to
the
upcoming
maintenance
and
being
let's
say,
proactive,
I
concur
with
that
I
think
councilmember
Alvarez
did
it
answer
your
question
regarding
the
fire
marshal?
Okay,
so
that
takes
care
of
that
councilman
Medina.
B
When
you
had
mentioned
about
the
delivery
and
Pickups,
we
have
two
businesses
here
that
are
not
in
the
downtown
so
to
me:
I
always
believe
in
looking
at
the
community
and
how
we
assist
everyone
equally
and
equitably,
but
also
I.
Think
that
because
staff
is
bringing
this
back
in
March
or
April
to
the
council
and
I
think
that
becomes
a
whole
different
topic.
That
is
more
much
more
detailed,
because
what
I
heard
you
saying
was
in
depth
item
than
what
we
have
before
us.
But
those
are
just
some
of
my
comments.
G
B
B
H
Thank
you,
I
think
there
are
three
things
and
if
I
can
articulate
them
and
then
make
some
comments
on
them,
because
I
think
there's
probably
only
one,
maybe
one
and
a
half
where
we
we
would
sort
of
need
further
discussion,
sounds
good.
Thank
you.
Let's
take
the
easier
one
for
from
council
member
Tom
Hamilton.
The
comment
was
or
vice
mayor
Hamilton.
The
comment
was
we
power
washed
once
a
month.
H
It
would
be
nice
if
the
parklet
businesses
had
the
option
to
utilize
the
way
I
think
it
would
be
fairly
straightforward
for
the
public
works
department
to
contract
that
to
contact
that
business
and
say
we're
looking
at
doing
parklets.
If
someone
does
a
parklet,
what
would
your
ballpark
price
be
and
then
see
if
they
concur
to
power
wash
that
parklet
if
they
concurrent
only
if
they,
they
sort
of,
say
sure
we'll
do
it?
Let
the
company
will
say
you
know
what
we
don't
want
to
do:
private
property.
H
H
With
regard
to
reducing
fees
with
kitchens
are
for
100
cost
recovery,
we
do
have
other
cost
recovery
percentages
that
we
can,
if
so
directed
bring
the
city
council
back
with
other
recommendations.
I
would
proffer
that
we
would
look
to
lower
the
initial
cost
as
article
configured
based
on
estimated
Revenue
per
stall
once
we
Implement
parking
meters
and
so
I
think
that
it
would
be
easier
to
reduce
the
one-time
cost
for
the
city's
review,
but
leave
those
Annual
fees
as
structured,
and
so,
if
so
directed,
we
can
bring
the
city
council
back
options
for
that.
H
I
think
the
last
item
other
policy
with
regard
to
Temporary
loading
zones,
certainly,
if
so
directed
we
us,
we
as
a
staff,
can
look
into
that.
I
do
think
that
that
will
take
more
time.
We
would
need
to
assign
one
of
our
Traffic
Engineers
and
to
analyze
where
additional
loading
zones
would
be.
We
would
certainly
want
to
make
informed
decisions
and
talk
to
Merchants
downtown,
probably
worth
reminding
the
city
council
that
we
did.
Oh
coveted
years
are
running
together
in
21
or
22
Implement
loading
zones
downtown.
H
There
likely
can
be
more
I
will
say.
Overall
parking
downtown
is
a
very
large
and
complicated
issue
in
and
of
itself
the
largest
thing
with
regard
to
parking
downtown
that
we're
actively
working
on,
and
we
will
be
tall
parking
meters
and
we
have
better
enforcement
in
the
on-street
spaces
are
more
than
the
off
Street
spaces.
I
think
we
collectively
in
the
city
will
have
a
better
understanding
of
what
the
true
parking
demand
and
parking
usage
is
downtown,
such
that
you
we
can
make
more
informed
decisions
in
our
time.
H
J
Mr
Medina,
yes,
so
understood
to
do
a
comprehensive
all
rest
for
the
rib
by
The
Rib
Shack
are
it's
the
Boba
place
and
people
come
in
and
out
in
and
out
in
and
out,
and
it's
very
really
difficult.
So
if
you
had
shorter
term
parking
because
if
all
it
takes
is
one
car
to
park
there
and
stay
there
and
then
it
makes
it
more
difficult
for
anyone
to
get
in
and
out
of.
J
If
you
were
to
ask
the
restaurant
owner
hey,
would
you
benefit
from
having
the
short-term
parking
right
in
front,
so
people
could
make
an
order
and
come
in
and
get
it
and
get
out,
because
it's
very
difficult
to
get
in
and
out
of
that
parking
lot
and
and
in
other
parking
lots.
So
it
seems
like
specifically
for
that
one
business
that
you
could
do
that
and
kind
of
take
care
of
it
all
in
one.
Stop.
H
H
City
manager,
just
as
a
follow-up
council
member
Medina
I,
totally
understand
what
you're
saying
is
you're
already
out
there
sort
of
look
at
the
neighboring
business.
I
just
want
to
sort
of
articulate
that
for
the
policy
regulations
that
we're
talking
about
right
now,
we
do
not
currently
have
a
project
where
we're
going
out
and
assessing
loading
zones
and
parking
in
businesses
and
I'm,
not
saying
what
you're
articulating
is
a
Bad
Thing.
H
It
is
just
a
different
policy
analysis
and
a
different
project
that
very
much
would
be
disconnected
to
what
we're
talking
about
here
with
regard
to
outdoor
dining
and
my
prior
comments
were
actually
about
downtown
because
I'm,
sorry,
that's
where
I
thought.
Your
initial
comments
were
about
adding
additional
loading
zones
downtown
and
the
business
you're
referring
to
now
is
not
downtown.
It's
a
long,
El
Camino
Real,
which
has
both
private,
very
legitimately
a
policy
issue,
but
but
a
separate
one
from
outdoor
dining.
J
Totally
understand
I
I
and
just
it
was
an
opportunity
to
comment
on
on
the
process
and
and
the
need
in
our
community
as
we
see
it
so
or
as
I
said,
and
don't
want
to
slow
this
from
from
proceeding
so
understood
and
with
that
ability
for
a
location
to
request
the
parking
space
we
can
also
look.
I
can
also
guide
people
to
that
as
well.
So
thank
you
that
request.
Thank.
B
B
B
Thank
you.
You
say
that
so
well
and
with
that
I
will
make
that
emotion.
Is
there
a
second?
Oh
second
motion
made
our
Medina's
second
invite
vice
mayor,
all
those
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
hearing,
no
oppose
any
abstentions.
Hearing
no
abstentions!
5-0
city
manager
has
Direction
with
that.
We
will
go
ahead
and
adjourn
this
meeting
and
thanks
to
everybody's
participation
and
staff,
to
the
next
meeting,
which
will.