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From YouTube: JUN 14, 2021 | Charter Review Commission
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City of San José, California
Charter Review Commission of June 14, 2021
This public meeting will be conducted via Zoom Webinar. For information on public participation via Zoom, please refer to the linked meeting agenda below.
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B
B
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E
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C
You
thank
you,
megan.
Let's
move
to
the
agenda.
C
Will
the
vietnamese
translator
mute
themselves?
Thank
you
all
right.
I
would
call
for
a
motion
to
accept
the
consent.
Calendar.
C
So
much
by
mr
tran
seconded
by
commissioner
marshman,
the
secretary,
take
the
rule.
Please.
A
Follow
the
rule
once
more
barbara
marshman.
F
A
C
G
E
F
Thank
you,
and
this
is
elizabeth
motley
I
just
want
to
type
in
with.
Yes,
thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
megan
and
now
I'd
like
to
open
to
a
public
input.
Is
there
anyone
that
wishes
to
address
the
commission
on
the
consent
calendar,
which
is
really
the
minutes
of
our
last
meeting
before
we
get
started
tonight.
C
Okay,
commissioner
monday.
F
Sorry,
I
just
neglected
to
drop
my
hand
I'll
do
that.
Thank
you.
D
C
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Matsumura
all
right.
There
is
a
lot
going
on
tonight,
the
council's
meeting,
and
so
I
have
a
feeling
that
there's
a
lot
of
traffic,
also
going
on
just
even
virtually
I'm
gonna
move
us
to
item
number
five,
the
old
business
item,
which
is
the
discussion
of
our
work
plan.
C
I
just
wanted
to
make
an
opening
comment
that
we
are:
we've
completed
our
study
session
phase
or
phase
one,
where
we're
studying
the
questions
or
kind
of
looking
back
and
looking
at
other
models
looking
at
other
information
sources
and
resources
and
we're
moving
into
a
very
important
next
stage,
which
is
the
stage
where
we're
studying
actual
bringing
up
recommendations
and
being
able
to
then
debate
them.
C
These
two
reports
or
the
recommendations
to
counsel
so
just
as
a
kind
of
like
what's
coming.
What's
ahead,
I'm
working
with
the
consultants
to
be
able
to
continue
to
move
us
as
efficiently
as
as
possible,
but
also
to
try
to
be
as
effective
as
possible.
So
sometimes
we
need
to
move
forward
in
ways
that
if
we
had
all
the
time
in
the
world,
we
might
do
it
differently,
but
we
don't,
and
so
with
the
focus
of
being
able
to
bring
our
recommendations
to
the
council
in
december.
C
I
want
to
keep
us
moving
in
this
next
phase
of
our
of
our
work.
C
There
certainly
is
a
lot
of
more
work,
that's
being
done
in
the
subcommittees,
more
research,
more
other
things
that
need
to
happen,
and
we
will
talk
about
and
address
those
today
tonight
in
terms
of
what
additional
resources
and
how
you
request,
those
I
have
received
all
of
the
subcommittee
reports
in
and
so
I'm
walking
through
them
there's
some
questions
that
you've
asked
in
the
subcommittees
and
I'm
hoping
we
have
ability
to
answer
them
tonight,
as
I
say,
to
keep
us
moving
forward
in
an
efficient
manner,
and
so
I'm
excited
about
kind
of
starting
this
second
phase
of
let's
get
to
work
and
and
really
get
our
this
roll
up
our
sleeves
and
get
to
work
on
getting
our
recommendations
prepared
for
council
and
having
the
public
engagement
conversation
that
I
know
all
of
us
have
been
yearning
for
for
for
the
entire
first
phase
of
public
education.
C
C
So
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
at
we
are
here
at
5
30
to
take
roll
and
establish
the
quorum
for
our
our
next
meeting,
I'll
remind
you
of
the
dates
again,
but
just
to
move
your
calendars
to
5
30,
so
that
we
can
be
ready
to
go
at
six
o'clock
for
our
public
hearing
and
there'll
be
more
to
come
on
that,
but
just
a
reminder
that
we're
going
to
be
starting
our
meetings
at
5
30
in
our
from
our
next
time
off
has
the
clerk
joined
us
has
is
tony
with
us.
C
Yet
the
clerk
has
a
meeting
with
the
council
tonight.
As
I
said,
the
council
is
meeting
tonight,
so
she
may
be
late.
She
has
details
on
the
public
hearing,
so
we'll
come
back
to
that
when
she's
able
to
join
us
and
the
city
attorney,
do
you
have
an
update
on
the
brown
act
that
you
wanted
to
give
to
the
commission.
H
Nothing
specifically
to
mention
other
than
the
memo
to
highlight
the
memo
that
was
submitted
to
the
subcommittee
item
under
new
business.
Great
okay,.
I
Great,
thank
you
chair,
hello,
everybody
great
to
see
you.
I
hope
you
all
had
a
good
break
and
start
to
your
summer.
Thank
you
all
for
jumping
in
on
the
subcommittee
process
we'll
be
talking
about
in
that
in
a
little
bit
to
follow
tonight's
agenda.
I
wanted
to
start
off
giving
an
update
on
the
work
plan
and
the
shifts
to
the
timeline,
given
what
we
have
heard
from
the
city
clerk.
I
A
I
I
Okay,
well,
hopefully,
everyone
has
the
the
updated
work
plan
that
was
sent
out
last
friday,
along
with
the
draft
outreach
materials
that
were
developed
and
we're
talking
about
in
just
a
minute.
Megan
just
feel
free
to
jump
in
if
you
are
able
to
to
allow
permissions
to
share
my
screen.
I
I
Work
tonight
is
reviewing
the
subcommittee
work
plans
having
some
of
the
first
cross
subcommittee
exchanges
based
on
the
initial
subcommittee
meetings
and
also
give
you
an
update
on
the
community
engagement
work
with
community
organizations
and
preparing
for
our
first
public
hearing
in
two
weeks,
so
that
public
hearing
is
confirmed
for
june
28th.
As
the
chair
said,
it
will
be
part
of
our
regular
commission
meeting
time.
Commission
will
meet
at
5
30
to.
I
Do
old,
business
or
or
consent
calendar,
and
then
around
6
o'clock,
we'll
invite
the
public
in
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
engagement
efforts
in
the
next
section
of
the
agenda,
but
we're
hoping
to
get
out
the
outreach
materials
to
translated
outreach
materials
to
our
community
partners
by
the
end
of
the
week
and
have
at
least
two
weekends
to
to
promote
this
we've
been
doing
our
best
to
to
hustle
to
get
the
cbo's
selected
up
to
speed
and
get
them
the
materials
based
on
their
feedback
and
your
feedback
tonight.
I
We
are
also
going
to
be
asking
all
of
you
to
help
to
to
really
promote
this
public
hearing.
Now
is
the
time
to
really
ensure
that,
as
we
finalize
subcommittees
and
the
topics
you
all
are
are
digging
into
that,
we
use
this
moment
to
make
sure
that
the
the
public's
voice
is
considered
and
incorporated
into
the
topics
that
you
all
are
starting
to
deliberate
on
and
bringing
back
to
the
full
commission.
I
City
clerk
out
of
office
and
on
july
23rd,
right
now
in
preparation
for
the
first
public
hearing
on
excuse
me
the
second
public
hearing
on
july
29th
thursday
from
68
pm.
We,
the
idea,
is
to
ask
the
public
for
feedback
on
recommendations
for
voting
and
elections
and
governance
structure.
I
To
make
that
happen,
we
would
need
to
have
the
the
voting
and
election
recommendation
memos
by
july
23rd,
as
well
as
a
handful
of
governance
structure,
whatever
governance
structure,
recommendations
that
come
out
of
that
subcommittee
to
be
able
to
discuss
them
and
revise
them
accordingly,
as
a
as
a
commission
as
a
group
on
july
26th
and
then
share
them
present
them
to
the
public
on
july
29th
for
for
initial
feedback.
I
So
that's
really
what
the
the
sort
of
the
process
is
going
to
look
like
for
this.
Throughout
this
phase,
some
committees
generate
recommendation
memos,
send
them
to
the
full
commission
for
deliberation
during
full
commission
meetings
and
then
those
those
revised
recommendations
are
presented
to
the
public
during
these
public
hearings
for
feedback
right
now
we
have
four
subcommittees
and
we
wanted
to
have
a
general
public
hearing
on
general
input
and
then
one
public
hearing
at
the
end
for
feedback
on
reports,
so
we'll
basically
be
staggering.
I
The
recommendations
across
subcommittees
in
these
three
public
hearings
and
that's
kind
of
how
we
have
it
mapped
out
right
now.
But
again,
this
lays
out
both
the
confirmed
public
hearings.
I
The
third
public
hearing
is
on
august
25th,
the
wednesday
from
68
pm
public
hearing
number
four
is
on
september
25th
from
saturday
from
11am
to
1pm
and
then
november
6th
on
the
sort
of
the
final
public
hearing
on
draft
majority
and
minority
reports
for
saturday
from
11am
to
1pm
november
6th,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
subcommittees
are
doing
the
work
to
generate
the
recommended
recommendation,
memos
that
the
commission
has
a
chance
to
discuss
them
as
a
whole
and
then
those
recommendations,
revised
recommendations
are
presented
to
the
public
for
feedback
and
additional
deliberation
and
and
consideration
for
inclusion
in
the
the
final
well
at
least
the
draft
majority
and
minority
reports.
I
I
Take
note
of
these
deadlines
and
do
your
best
to
get
your
as
many
recommendations
as
you
can
as
early
as
possible,
so
that
we
have
a
queue
of
of
ideas
and
recommendations
to
discuss
to
these
meetings,
but
just
to
keep
moving
here.
We
do
want
to
to
make
sure
that
as
much
as
possible,
we
are
are
following
these
deadlines
for
for
the
recommendation
memos
so
that
we
can
get
the
public
feedback
and
input
that
you
all
have
asked
for.
I
And
there's
a
number
of
questions
about
that
came
up
from
subcommittees
during
the
the
first
round
of
subcommittee
meetings.
I
I
will
address
those
and
talk
a
bit
more
about
the
subcommittee
process
during
item
5
new
business,
the
subcommittee
reports-
that's
also
the
point
at
which
you
all
have
an
opportunity
to
discuss
any
questions
that
came
up
as
far
as
the
content
and
recommendations,
increasingly
we're
hoping
to
sort
of
use
that
time
to
focus
on
the
that'll
be
a
standing
item
for
our
agendas,
the
the
subcommittee
reports
and
we
are
really
hoping
to
to
use
that
to
focus
on
the
important
content
conversations
in
the
cross
subcommittee
exchange.
I
So
I
will
pause
there
since
that's
what
we
have
in
our
agenda
and
just
see
if
there's
any
questions
about
the
the
updated
timeline.
We
also
have
again
a
section
immediately
after
this
about
community
engagement
and
preparation
for
the
first
public
hearing.
We've
agendized
this
discussion
item
to
to
take
motions.
But
we've
also
agenda
is
the
rest
of
the
discussion
items
to
take
motions
too.
I
So
before
we
get
on
to
the
community
engagement
and
the
sort
of
sub
committee
process,
questions
and
then
content
conversation
I'll
pause
to
see
if
there's
any
questions
or
discussion
for
commissioners
about
the
updated
work
plan
under
all
business
chair.
Does
that
sound
good
to
you
all
right?
I
see
a
hand
from
christian
fuentes.
J
Yes,
I
mean
I'm
not
sure
whether
I
should
bring
this
up
now
or
in
the
next
item.
But-
and
maybe
I've
missed
this,
but
to
what
extent
is
our
community
engagement
process
going
to
encourage
people
to
attend
the
commission
meeting
to
let
them
know
when
we
meet
what
we
do
here
at
our
meetings
and
encourage
the
public.
I
And
I
think
I
saw
commissioner
motley,
but
maybe
that
was
a
prior
hand.
I
see
commissioner
amador.
I
Other
thoughts
or
comments
right
now
on
the
updated
work
plan
timeline.
H
I
C
Seeing
that
we
got
a
public
comment,
anyone
in
the
public
wants
to
comment
on
the
revisions
of
the
work
plan
in
terms
of
the
timeline
megan.
Do
we
have
any
speakers.
C
Thank
you.
Let's
continue,
then,
to
the
next
item,
which
is
to
look
at
the
the
update
on
our
engagement
with
our
cbo
partners.
I
Great,
so
we
have
been
busy
behind
the
scenes,
as
you
all
have
getting
into
subcommittees.
I
wanted
to
give
an
update
on
what
has
happened
as
far
as
the
the
community
engagement
approach
and
our
community
partners
selection,
we
received
interest
from
a
number
of
this
is
a
sort
of
a
share.
This
was
shared
during
a
vienna
email
update,
but
we
received
just
for
the
record
received
interest
from
19
organizations,
a
mix
of
service
organizations,
advocacy
organizations
and
neighborhood
organizations.
I
We
worked
the
chair
vice
chair
and
I,
based
on
the
criteria
that
we
discussed
at
one
of
our
prior
meetings,
reviewed
the
the
the
list
of
interested
organizations
and
selected.
I
Let's
see
nine
organizations
that
we
would
partner
with
on
targeted
or
deep
outreach
to
some
of
the
priority
populations
hard
to
reach
vulnerable
populations
that
you
all
have
been
expressing.
A
desire
to
hear
from
I've
also
talked
to
a
couple
of
the
neighborhood
associations
and
community
groups,
and
I
think,
there's
a
real
potential
for
us,
both
with
your
relationships
with
with
your
with
your
neighborhood
organizations,
but
also
with
the
list
that
we're
pulling
together
to
to
really
leverage
those
groups
to
help
us
promote
the
commission
meetings
and
upcoming
public
hearings.
I
But
the
the
bulk
of
our
our
work
will
be
with
the
sort
of
again
the
the
deeper
outreach
and
engagement
efforts
to
get
participation
with
our
public
hearings,
we'll
be
with
a
handful
of
groups
that
cover
a
lot
of
the
priority
populations
that
that
we've
been
talking
about.
And
let
me
share
briefly
my
screen,
so
you
can
see
that
list.
I
We
have
healing
grove
health
center
and
their
moderate
moderate
program,
kaminar's
lgbtq,
wellness
program,
latinos
united
for
a
new
america
amigos
de
guadalupe
plateau
royal
neighborhood
association,
east
gate,
neighborhood
action
committee,
friends
of
hue
foundation,
the
vietnamese
voluntary
foundation
african
american
community
service
agency
and
another
group
called
youth
hype.
So
we
feel
pretty
good
about
this
list
of
partners.
We
held
our
first
kickoff
meeting
with
with
these
groups
and
the
basically
the
the
engagement
leads
that
that
will
be
working
with
us.
That
was
last
wednesday
and
we
got
them
up
to
speed.
I
We
gave
them
a
little
a
bit
of
a
prototype
presentation
on
on
what
the
commission
is.
What
the
city
charter
is,
we
use
as
an
opportunity
to
get
some
initial
feedback
from
them
about
how
to
talk
about
this
to
their
communities
and
their
populations,
and
we've
revised
that,
based
on
their
input,
along
with
the
other
outreach
materials
that
I'll
be
sharing
with
you
in
just
a
minute.
I
I
Really
it
was
very
heartening
to
see
the
interest
from
from
these
community
partners
in
the
deliberations
you
all
are
having
in
this
process
around
the
charter
review
and
there's
a
lot
of
knowledge
already
held
by
these
organizations
and
some
great
ideas
about
how
to
sort
of
contextualize
this
conversation
with
their
with
their
communities
to
really
leverage
this
opportunity
to
to
make
sure
that
the
community's
voice
is
heard.
So
we
were
really.
I
It
was
a
great
call
and
and
excited
to
to
have
this
really
strong
partners
we're
in
the
process
of
understanding
what
materials
they
need
and
what
specific
outreach
tactics
that
they
would
use
and
and
encapsulating
that
into
an
mou
that
lays
out
their
simple
outreach
plan,
as
well
as
any
kind
of
compensation
they
would
want.
And
it's
a
mix
of
some
stipends,
some
some
gift
cards,
some
funds
for
printing
and
other
materials.
I
And
so
that
is
basically
the
next
step
here.
In
addition
to
getting
the
materials
revised
to
getting
those
agreements
finalized
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
expectations
over
the
course
of
the
next
four
or
five
months
are
clear
and
that
we
have
a
feedback
process
for
generating
reports
on
a
monthly
basis
for
outreach
activities
and
outcomes
that
we
will
anonymize
and
aggregate
into
a
monthly
report.
For
you
all
about.
What's
happened.
I
What
the
results
have
been-
and
you
know,
thoughts
about
sort
of
different
priorities
or
or
any
any
kind
of
tweaks
that
need
to
happen
to
make
sure
that
the
engagement
and
outreach
efforts
are
are
meeting.
You
know
your
goals
and
and
desired
interests.
C
Let
me
add
to
yeah
directly
commissioner
fuentes
question
in
the
mou
draft
or
the
request
for
proposals.
Commissioner
fuentes,
we
really
put
it
in
the
hands
of
the
cbo
to
figure
out
what
they
really
wanted
to
be
able
to
do
so
if
they
want
to
do
focus
groups
if
they
want
to
survey
their
members
if
they
want
to
have
their
meetings,
if
they
wanted,
you
know
how
do
they
gather
the
information
and
then
we've
encouraged
them
to
attend
the
actual
public
hearing.
C
But
some
of
them
may
want
to
be
the
spokespersons
others
may
want
to
attend,
like
we
really
left
it
in
their
hands
to
figure
out
how
they
wanted
their
constituency
to
participate.
So
we
will
probably
see
a
variety
of
ways
and
a
variety
of
informational
sources
depending
on
the
organization
and
the
type
of
engagement
and
outreach
and
pub
and
presentations
that
they
make
currently.
C
So
I
I
do
think
we're
going
to
see
a
variety
from
youth
being
very
engaged
and
coming
and
presenting
to
others
having
a
spokesperson
for
a
meeting
that
they
held
with
their
stakeholders
or
their
focus
group
and
representing
the
voice
of
their
organization.
So
you'll
see
lots
of
different
versions
of
that
we
did
have
a
number
of
neighborhood
associations.
C
They
were
not
necessarily,
it
was
great
that
they
wanted
to
be
involved
and
we
will
involve
them,
but
they
weren't
addressing
the
hard-to-reach
populations
that
the
commission
had
outlined.
So
we
will
supply
them
the
materials
we
still
will
have
engagement
with
them,
we'll
still
be
looking
at
partnering
with
them
in
a
different
way,
but
not
in
the
sense
of
that.
We
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
are
targeting
these
populations.
C
We
will
ask
commissioners
to
be
able
to
be
the
ones
that
are
going
back
to
their
districts
in
a
lot
of
ways
and
that's
why
we
need
to
know
more
about
the
materials
you
feel
you
would
need
in
being
able
to
go
to
make
presentations
or
to
have
talks
with
community
groups,
neighborhood
associations
and
so
forth.
If
they're
asking
for
a
commissioner
to
come
and
talk
to
their
group,
we
want
to
make
sure
those
materials
are
things
that
you
are
comfortable
with
and
that
you
would
want
to
need
as
well.
I
And-
and
thanks
chair
I'm
just
going
to
ask
that
we
hold
questions
into
the
end
of
this,
and
then
we
can
talk
about
it
as
a
as
a
as
a
whole,
because
I
might
be
able
to
answer
some
of
your
questions
as
they
come
up
to
reiterate
the
chair's
thoughts
there.
There's
two
primary
proposed
calls
to
action.
I
One
is
to
visit
the
commission's
website
to
learn
more
and
I'll,
be
working
with
the
secretary
and
the
city
clerk
to
to
reorganize
some
of
the
presentation
of
information
on
that
site,
to
make
it
more
user-friendly
and
also
include
a
basically
a
form
to
sign
up
for
notifications
about
future
public
hearings
and
share
other
public
comment.
I
The
other
ask
is
to
attend
a
public
hearing,
so
we
we
received
feedback
from
the
commissioner
from
the
cvo's
that
we
need
to,
and
this
is
just
kind
of
general
good
practice
for
community
engagement.
We
have
to
be
very
clear
about
what
we're
asking
for,
and
so
we
didn't
want
to
overwhelm
folks
with
too
many
different
asks.
So
I
hope
that
this
actually
does
engage
people
and
they
show
up
at
regular
commission
meetings.
I
We
have
some
of
our
cbo
partners
on
this
call,
so
I
think
we
will
start
to
see
a
lot
more
involvement
moving
forward,
especially
now,
since
these
meetings
are
translated,
let
me
run
through
the
the
materials
really
quickly.
I
won't
talk
about
all
of
them
in
depth,
but
I
will
just
kind
of
review
them
and
hopefully
that
you
all
have
had
a
chance
to
that's,
not
the
right
screen
to.
I
Have
some
some
comments
about
how
we
can
improve
them?
The
first
we
put
together-
and
this
is
what
we
presented
to
our
cbo
kickoff
meeting-
is
this
basically
a
basic
outreach
presentation?
This
has
an
overview
of
what
is
a
city
charter
again
trying
to
use
very
plain
language.
I
What
is
the
charter
review
commission
the
some
background
in
context
about
the
types
of
city
government,
some
sort
of
context
about
how
cities
change
their
form
of
government
over
time
and
then
details
about
san
jose's
type
of
government
and
then
what
we
really
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
was
again
contextualizing
what
this
means
for
members
of
the
community.
So
we
have-
and
we
tried
to
frame
this
in
a
neutral
way
that
elicits
input
on
the
potential
charter,
changes
or
direction
of
the
city
rather
than
having
a
bias
or
leading
statement.
I
The
community
being
unhappy
with
decisions
by
city
staff
or
policing
or
legal
issues,
but
basically
this
talks
about
the
where
the
power
to
hire
and
fire
city
staff
sits.
Should
that,
should
the
mayor
have
more
power
or
should
it
be
left
to
the
city
manager
or
a
council
vote
and
then
finally
should
the
as
far
as
citizen
oversight
or
or
a
stronger
citizen
voice
and
in
some
areas
of
the
government
you
know.
I
Should
the
charter
revisions
be
used
to
change
the
focus
of
certain
departments
or
establish
more
citizen
oversight?
This
these
are
sort
of
a
work
in
progress
and
we've
asked
community
organizations
to
come
up
with
their
own
examples.
We
heard
a
couple
of
organizations
about
decisions
that
the
city
has
made
that
were
particularly
vexing
or
confusing,
or
downright
upsetting
for
for
communities,
and
so
we're
expecting
that
this.
This
will
be
an
editable
presentation
that
we
give
to
to
community
organizations
and
that
they
will
add
their
own
examples.
I
That
really
help
to
to
make
this
conversation
about
chart
potential
charter
revisions
a
lot
more
pertinent
and
relatable
to
their
communities,
and
then
we
have
basically
sort
of
the
thoughts
about
sort
of
like
what
type
of
feedback
the
commission
is
looking
for
at
public
hearings,
especially
this
public
hearing
coming
up
and
then
again
those
calls
to
action,
learn
more
about
the
san
jose
charter
review
process
and
sign
up
for
notifications
on
the
website
or
attend
an
upcoming
public
hearing
to
share
your
your
thoughts
when
we,
when
I'm
done
sort
of
walking
through
all
this,
would
love
any
ideas
you
all
have
for
for
improving
this
we've
shared
it
back
with
our
community
partners
to
get
an
additional
round
of
feedback
to
make
sure
this
is
as
as
clear
and
useful
as
for
them
as
possible,
and
once
we
have
feedback
we'll
be
doing
another
round
of
revisions
and
translating
this
into
spanish
and
vietnamese
and
making
it
available.
I
I
So
here's
a
pass
and
what
that
could
look
like
again
attend
a
public
hearing
or
sign
up
for
notifications
and
learn
more.
This
is
a
pass
at
some
real
basic
messaging,
again
plain
language
messaging,
to
talk
about
what
a
city
charter
is
and
what
the
charter
review
commission
is.
There's
a
social
media
graphic
version
as
just
an
example
of
what
social
media
could
look
like
and
we'll
probably
develop
a
few
of
these
to
share
with
with
community
organizations
and
and
neighborhood
associations.
I
And,
of
course,
all
of
you,
and
then
we
did
create
a
version
of
the
comparison
of
government
forms
for
folks
that
want
a
little
bit
more
background
or
detail.
We
did
hear
from
some
of
our
community
partners
that
some
of
their
their
community
members
are
a
bit
more
aware
of
the
situation
and
would
like
to
have
a
bit
more
detail.
I
So
this
is
our
attempt
to
take
that
kind
of
comparison
of
government
forms,
governance
forms
and
san
jose's
particular
form
and
put
that
in
a
bit
more
accessible
format,
so
pretty
exciting
to
have
these
materials
and
really
want
to
hear
from
you
about
how
they
can
be
improved
before
I
open
it
up
for
feedback
on
these.
I
just
want
to
mention
that
we'll
be
putting
all
this
together
into.
I
Some
talking
points
for
cbo's
that
will
be
open
not
only
to
share
with
not
only
the
cbo's
but
open
to
the
public
open
to
you
all,
and
we
really
again
hope
that
you
can
leverage
your
relationships
with
your
community
organizations,
your
neighborhood
councils,
whatever
they
might
be,
to
make
sure
that
we're
sharing
these
these
outreach
materials
to
to
bring
awareness
and
and
drive
attendance
to
commission
meetings
and
public
hearings,
but
particularly
public
hearings
and
there's
also
been,
as
the
chair
mentioned,
a
request
from
some
of
our
community
partners
for
commissioners
to
give
presentations
and
as
those
requests
come
in
we're
going
to
be
basically
putting
out
when
we
share
the
the
outreach
toolkit
we'll
be
saying.
I
If
you
would
like
to
have
a
commissioner
come
and
present
your
organization.
Let
us
know
and
then
we'll
work
with
the
secretary
to
coordinate
with
you.
All.
Your
excuse
me
your
availability
to
be
able
to
give
those
presentations,
because
I
think
we
learned
that,
just
in
that
first
meeting
the
ability
to
sort
of
have
a
conversation
with
folks
to
sort
of
be
a
voice
in
in
translating
some
of
this
to
the
community.
I
In
a
plain
language
way
can
be
a
really
helpful
way
to
educate
the
community,
get
them
engaged
in
the
process
and
and
hopefully
getting
them
contributing
ideas.
I
Last
thing
I'll
share
before
getting
your
feedback
is
preparation
for
the
public
hearing,
both
the
one
coming
up
in
two
weeks,
but
also
the
rest
of
the
public
hearings.
Our
outcome
for
this
first
public
hearing
we'll
talk
about
this
more
in
the
subcommittee
process
is
really
to
to.
As
you
all
been
talking
about
and
asking
for
to
listen
to
the
public
and
understand
what
other
areas
the
commission
should
be
considering
for
potential
recommendations.
I
So
the
the
idea
is
that
we
would
present
the
the
outreach
presentation
that
we
just
talked
about
as
some
some
context
and
background,
and
then
the
commission
would
just
listen
and
listen
to
to
what
is
of
interest
and
on
the
minds
of
the
public.
Hopefully
we'll
hear
from
our
some
of
our
cbo
partners
as
well
about
what
they've
heard
from
their
communities
and
and
also,
hopefully,
some
of
the
folks
that
they've
conducted
outreach
to
and
that
are
willing
to
come
to
the
public
hearing
and
share
directly
themselves.
I
But
the
again
the
outreach
of
the
first
public
hearing
is
to
make
sure
that
we
have
done
the
due
diligence
around
and
we
could
go.
We
could
go
months
doing
this,
but
just
to
to
meet
our
deadline
and
and
to
work
within
the
the
tight
timeline.
We
have
to
really
open
up
one
more
time,
an
opportunity
for
the
public
to
share
ideas
that
should
be
funneled
into
the
right
subcommittee
for
consideration
and
potential
development
into
a
recommendation
memo
for
discussion
by
the
full
commission.
So
that's
the
outcome
again.
I
The
process
for
the
first
meeting
will
be
first
public
hearing
will
be.
Someone
gives
a
presentation,
and
if
anybody
here
would
like
to
do
that
to
talk
to
the
chair,
I
I'm
totally
open
about
who
who
would
give
that
presentation.
We'd,
obviously
have
translated
versions
and
interpreted
versions
in
spanish
and
vietnamese.
We
would
listen
to
to
anyone
that
is,
wants
to
or
willing
to
speak
and
then
for
this
meeting
this
hearing
census
during
a
commission
meeting,
we
would
discuss
what
was
heard
and
you
all
would
refer
to
the
proper
subcommittee.
I
Any
topics
that
came
up
in
future
public
hearings
it'll
be
a
bit
more
direct
feedback
on
potential
recommendations
that
have
been
developed
so
that,
as
this
commission
comes
up
with
with
ideas,
whether
it's
a
majority
majority
recommendation
or
minority
recommendation
that
each
of
those
is
put
in
front
of
the
the
public
at
a
public
hearing
and
is
able
to
garner
feedback.
I
I
I'll
stop
and
a
lot
of
work
and
looking
forward
to
hearing
your
thoughts
on
it.
Commissioner,
calendar
had
your
hand
up
for
a
bit.
E
Yes,
thank
you.
You
started
off
with
the
list
of,
and
I
know
you
emailed
it
out
yeah.
I
can't
find
it
the
list
of
folks.
I
I.
H
E
I
E
First,
I
want
to
thank
you,
the
chair
and
the
vice
chair
for
for
working
on
this,
and
so,
and
I
know
you
said
they
were
19,
but
you
didn't
share
the
names
of
the
19
who
would
actually
applied
and
then
yeah.
I
noticed
that
we
don't
have
so
we
we
don't
have
anyone
that
does
general
asian
outreach
that's
on
the
list
and
I
was
trying
to
find
out
if,
if
we
didn't
look
at
like
the
asian
law
alliance
or
some
of
the
other
groups
that
have
really
had
broad
networks
into
the
asian
community,.
I
Yeah
you
know
we.
I
appreciate
that
we,
I
think
the
asian
law
alliance
was
on
our
outreach
list,
but
I
I'm
not
too
sure
we
did
our
best
to
get
this
out
to
the
organizations
we
have
and
was
really
hoping
that
that
you
all
could
do
the
same.
I
The
majority
of
the
other
organizations
that
that
responded
were-
and
I
don't
have
that
in
a
form
to
present
on
my
screen,
because
there's
some
personal
information
so
apologies
there,
but
the
the
majority
of
the
organizations,
as
the
chair
said,
were
neighborhood
organizations
that
kind
of
serve
the
general
community
or
population
within
a
neighborhood
and
don't
do
the
deeper
engagement
with
hard-to-reach
or
vulnerable
populations.
I
So
while
we
feel
good
about
this
list,
I
think
that
there
are
opportunities
to
continue
to
to
supplement
this,
to
make
sure
that
this
is
actually
reaching
everyone
we
need
to.
So
we
have
discussed
adding
additional
organizations.
You
know
within
the
the
limit
of
our
ability
to
to
coordinate
with
them
and
also
the
funding
that
is
available
currently
for
stipends.
I
But
you
know,
I
would
say
that
if
there
are
other
organizations
that
you
have
relationship
with
or
we
consider
should
consider
to
fill
in
particular
gaps
in
the
populations
that
are
being,
you
know,
touched
or
or
kind
of
outreach
to.
Let's,
let's
talk
about
that
and
and
let's
see
what
we
can
do
to
to
kind
of
fill
those
gaps
as
soon
as
possible.
E
I
Yeah
I
reached
out
to
matt
king
from
sacred
heart
and
asked
them
about
their
interest
in
participating.
They
said
that
they
would
decline.
Matt
said
they
would
decline
and
was
interested
in
seeing
the
list
which
we're
presenting
here
and
also
sharing
receiving
any
outreach
materials
for
for
use.
So
we
did
follow
up
on
that
and
there
wasn't
an
interest
in
in
participating.
I
I
Yeah,
I
can
do
that
I'll
I'll.
I
can
follow
up
with
a
I'll
just
pull
the
the
contact
information
out
so
that
you
have
that
yep.
Thank
you
sure,
christopher
fuentes.
J
Thank
you.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
all
of
this
work.
To
put
all
this
together
and
for
your
presentation
I
mean
I,
I
really
value
and,
and
I'm
thankful
for
the
way
everything
is
looking.
The
only
thing
that
I
am
concerned
about
is
that
when
we
do
all
this
outreach,
we
really
encourage
people
to
come
to
our
meetings
and-
and
my
question
is,
how
are
we
going
to
do
that?
I
mean,
I
think,
all
the
materials
that
you
showed
us.
J
I
you
know
I
quickly
looked
at
him
on
be
honest
and
I
didn't
see
anything
other
than
go
to
the
web
page,
but
specifically
when
we
meet
how
to
get
to
our
meetings
and
also
the
the
importance
of
their
input.
Personally,
I
see
that
I'm
on
this
commission.
I
have
ideas
and
I'm
learning
etc,
but
I'm
the
voice
of
the
community,
so
it
really
depends
on
what
the
community's
views
are
on
the
questions
that
we
are
addressing
as
to
what
I
personally
would
see
as
our
recommendation.
J
So
this-
and
this
is
probably
the
most
important
work
that
was
being
done.
The
outreach
and
I
want
to
stress
that
we
should
be
engaging
the
community
to
continue
to
work
with
us,
and
the
last
thing
I
want
to
say
is
that
where
I
really
hope
that
every
single
person
I
mean,
I
think,
the
the
process
that
we
have,
where
we're
going
to
have
public
hearings
according
to
the
schedule,
is
going
to
help
the
subcommittees,
formulate
their
their
thoughts
and
and
and
their
recommendations.
J
But
then
we're
going
to
have
our
big
meeting
where
we're
all
together
and
we're
actually
going
to
decide.
And
those
are
the
meetings
that
I
think
is
critical-
that
the
people
in
the
community
who
have
opinions
of
a
strong
mayor
or
no
strong,
mirror,
etc
that
they
be
present
and
that
we
hear
from
them
at
that
time,
also
not
just
at
the
public
hearings,
but
actually
when,
when
we're
making
the
decisions.
J
So
again,
I
hope
that
you
we
can
improve
on
I'll,
give
you
feedback,
as
you
said,
you're
asking
for
that.
But
I
hope
we
can
improve
on
the
materials
as
well
as
as
well
as
the
expectations
of
both
year
lawrence
year
organization,
as
well
as
these
organizations
that
we
contracted.
J
I
understand
chairpers
explanation
that
they
are
responsible,
for,
you
know
like
say
the
public
hearings,
but
I
think
we
need
to
broaden
their
scope.
Let
them
know
that
this
is
also
part
of
their
job
and
it's
also
part
of
lauren's
year,
consulting
firm,
that
is,
to
engage
the
community
so
when
the
rubber
hits
the
road
when
we're
here
as
commissioners.
J
I
Thank
you,
yeah.
One
thing
I'm
realizing
that's
not
on
here
is
how
to
attend
a
public
hearing
and
when
the
the
city
clerk
does
arrive,
there'll
be
an
update
about
sort
of
in-person
versus
virtual
meetings
that
we
haven't
talked
about,
but
that's
a
that's
a
big
piece:
how
to
attend.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Tran.
G
Yeah
two
questions,
so
the
first
is
considering
that
we
don't
actually
know
the
proposals
yet
that
are
coming
out
of
the
subcommittees.
I
Yeah
yeah
we're
going
to
have
to
be
really
that's
why
we
have
the
deadlines
and
the
deadlines
themselves
deadline
for
for
memos.
The
deadline
themselves
are
going
to
be
really
tight,
so
there
you
know
we'll
we'll
work
with
the
city
clerk
on
translation,
and
I
do
think
that
there
is
going
to
be
the
public
hearings,
a
need
for
subcommittee
members
to
present
these
recommendations
again
in
as
plain
language
as
possible
to
to
sort
of
frame
the
the
conversation
or
request
from
feedback
for
the
the
public.
I
I
honestly
have
been
sort
of
focused
on
getting
the
community
engagement
up
and
running
the
community
partners
selected
and
getting
this
first
public
hearing
together,
but
I
think
you're
absolutely
right
that
we're
going
to
need
to
be
really
prepared
to
get
the
right
feedback
on
recommendations
at
upcoming
hearings.
So
thanks
for
thanks
for
that,
commissioner
posadas.
E
Hello,
just
three
quick
items
so,
regarding
community
engagement,
we
we
do
have
on
our
community
outreach
list
the
suggestion
to
engage
or
include
in
some
way
the
existing
city
commissions
and
boards
like
senior
commission
youth,
commission,
neighborhoods
commission.
So
I
hope
that
we
find
some
way
to
still
engage
and
partner
with
them
so
that
they
wait
that
way
they
can
filter
the
information
to
their
own
individual
groups.
E
The
other
suggestion
was
that
the
city
is
reactivating
the
public
events
called
the
viva
park,
so
hopefully
we
can
have
some
material
at
the
at
the
events
that
are
going
to
be
taking
place.
City
wide
at
the
city
booth
there
as
well
and
last
thing.
I
think
it
was
on
slide
number
10,
where
it's
talking
about
the
or
it
has
a
graphic
of
the
san
jose
police
department.
E
I
In
that
case,
it
is
actually
the
city
attorney
they
were
referring
to
because
you
know
this
is
sort
of
like
we
talked
about
the
city
manager,
I
mean
we
could
say,
city
attorney,
we
could
say
state
attorney
and
or
city
manager.
I
think
it's.
It
is
a
good
question
about
it.
It's
very
hard
to
talk
about
this
folks
who
don't
have
the
context
that
that
that
you
all
have
have
cultivated,
but
I
mean
we
could
say
either
city
attorney
or
city
manager.
Here.
I
Because
in
as
far
as
legal
issues,
it
would
be
the
city
attorney,
that
would
be
the
council.
Actually,
you
know,
as
we
know,
hires
and
fires,
the
city
attorney
so
but
yeah
we
can
that's
a
simple
update
there.
Thank
you
yeah.
I
appreciate
that
all
that
commissioner
matsumura.
D
Thank
you
for
all
this
work,
just
a
few
suggestions.
One
is
for
the
slideshow
to
actually
flip
the
order
and
start
with
how
this
affects
you
so
because
otherwise
people
are
kind
of
getting
through
a
lot
of
more
sort
of
abstract
stuff.
It
might
be
helpful
to
draw
people
in.
I
also
wonder
whether
we
could
give
examples
of
the
outcomes
of
other
charter
review
commissions,
our
own
1985,
one,
the
detroit
one
are
ones
that
I'm
most
familiar
with
just
to
give
people
really
concrete
pieces
of
what
could
actually
result
from
this.
D
That
then
makes
a
difference
in
my
life
and
my
community
and
sort
of
building
on
what
commissioner
tran
had
said
just
to
express
the
hope
that
you
know
obviously
the
powerpoint
and
then
also
the
the
flyers,
the
communications
materials
will
evolve,
as
we
have
some
more
specifics,
because
I
think
it's
still,
you
know,
changes
to
your
city
government
is
still
probably
pretty
abstract,
but
if
we're
able
to
say
you
know
it's
about
policing,
it's
about
people's
ability
to
participate
in
elections,
etc.
D
That
would
be
helpful
and
then
the
other
piece
is
you
know.
I
don't
know
whether
any
of
the
cbo's
have
actually
communications
staff,
professional
communicators
who
are
participating.
I
would
imagine
it's
more
of
their
outreach
and
organizing
staff,
but
I
think
it's
probably
too
late
for
the
june
28th
public
hearing,
but
maybe
going
forward.
Having
folks
who
have
a
communications
background
might
be
helpful,
especially
also
just
to
see
if
we
can
be
less
wordy
for
the
communications
material.
So
those
are
just
something.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
and,
and
we
heard
some
excellent
feedback
from
cbo's.
That's
already,
you
know,
and
some
very
media,
savvy
social
media
savvy
folks,
so
first
pass
we're
gonna
continue
to
refine
these
and
then
prove
these
over
time.
For
sure.
So.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Siegel.
A
Thank
you.
I
just
was
wondering
if
we
could,
after
giving
the
the
choices,
we
could
actually
put
exactly.
What
currently
is
the
case
what's
happening
now
in
a
lot
of
the
slides,
it
was
just
the
question
and
choices,
but
not
really
describing
how
it's
happening
now
in
san
jose.
I
We
we
have
tried
to
do
that
this
one.
So
currently,
the
city
manager
is
solely
responsible
for
oversight
of
city
staff
and
services.
Then
the
question
is:
should
the
mayor
be
able
to
oversee
staff,
or
should
this
be
left
to
professional
city
manager?
So
we
are
trying
to
sort
of
set
up
a
little
bit
of
context.
You
know,
while
balancing
about
what's
currently
happening,
while
balancing
again
not
being
too
wordy.
A
We
specify
the
department
heads
in
there
so
that
so
that
people
know
which
department
heads
are
potentially
subject
to
giving
the
mayor
more
power
to
hiring,
or
at
least
fire.
I
Yeah
yeah,
okay,
great
thank
you
see
if
we
can
how
we
can
fit
that
in.
I
A
K
I
have
a
comment
about
giving
more
context
to
the
subcommittees.
I
think
would
be
helpful
to
get
a
little
more
details
about
subcommittees
in
the
presentation.
A
So
that
way
folks
know
like
okay.
If
they
have
a
question
about
so,
and
so
you
know
this
falls
into
this
category
and
they
would
want
to
attend
that
meeting.
I
I
I
don't
know
if
how
much
it
makes
sense
to
open
up
sort
of
the
to
talk
about
the
the
subcommittee
process,
but
it
certainly
makes
sense
to
talk
about
topics,
and
so
I
I
think
we
will
inevitably
have
to
do
that
sort
of
as
we
get
into
the
the
public
hearing,
so
that
it's
contextualized,
but
again
this
is
sort
of
this
is
a
first
pass
on
general
outreach
materials
and
we
can
always
make
them
more
specific
to
sort
of
topics
as
they're
coming
up
down
the
road
is
that
is
that
helpful?
A
K
I
Okay,
yeah,
I
mean
it,
and
this
is
also,
if
there's
any
specific
examples
or
like.
I
really
would
welcome
any
because
this
is
actually
surprisingly
difficult
to
come
up
with
these
examples.
So
I
really
would
love
to
to
benefit
from
all
the
thinking
you
all
have
done
already
on
this
and
and
if
there's
any
additional
examples
we
can
bring,
I
mean
it
would
actually
be
great
to
have
a
whole
like
a
dozen
examples
that
a
particular
partner
could
pick
and
choose
from,
depending
on
what
would
resonate
most
with
their
committee,
so
their
community.
I
C
Yeah,
I
would
just
add
this
was
the
hardest
part
for
us,
as
we
were
putting
this
together,
because
I
could
write
one
of
these
and
they,
but
they
come
across
very
biased,
right.
Here's,
the
problem,
here's
the
situation
we're
in-
and
this
is
the
current
situation
of
how
we
deal
with
it.
If
that's
not
satisfying,
then
maybe
there's
something
we
can
do
about
it
in
the
charter.
What
would
you
like
to
do,
and
so
even
the
setting
up
of
the
problem
or
the
situation
it
feels
like
it's
biased
towards?
C
Oh,
we
have
to
change
right,
so
any
kind
of
situations
that
have
come
up.
The
community
members
brought
up
one
about
when
we
named
little
saigon
and
what
was
that
process
about?
So
if
you
only,
if
you
think
of
other
situations
where
the
com
that
the
charter
would
have
been
helpful
in
a
different
way
like
any
of
those
situations
that
you
can
come
up
with
and
the
more
specific
you
can
be
the
better
because
then
we
can
move
towards.
How
would
we
get
these
to
be
a
lot
of
different
choices
for
folks?
C
But
this
was
the
one
area
that
we
had
the
hardest
time,
not
being
biased
but
being
specific,
but
not
being
so
specific
that
you're
biased
and
then
also
trying
to
explain
what
the
kind
of
mechanism
is
in
a
very
short
kind
of
example.
So
any
of
creative
ideas
you
have,
we
would
love
to
see
in
this
area.
This
was
the
toughest
part
to
put.
I
Yeah,
commissioner
segal
is
your
hand
up
again:
no
okay,
commissioner
runley.
F
Self,
okay,
so
this
looks
like
we
should
use
this,
these
draft
materials
for
our
june
28th,
with
a
note
that
says,
stay
tuned
at
this
site
for
an
update
on
where,
where
and
how
to
attend.
Or
are
you
saying
we
should
not
use
these
documents?
I
mean
we're
getting
real.
I
Close,
I'm
saying
not
use
them
until
we
do
another
revision
based
on
your
feedback
and
any
any
additional
feedback
from
our
community
partners
and
then
they're
they're
translated.
So
you
will
receive
an
email
by
the
end
of
the
week
with,
at
the
very
least,
there
are
revised
english
materials
and
then
we
will,
as
soon
as
we
can
have
translated
spanish
and
vietnamese
materials.
I
And
one
of
the
things
we
will
add
is
details
about
how
to
attend
like
public
hearings.
Just
to
reiterate,
I
think
one
of
the
best
things
that
we
can
do
is
it's
always
tough.
When
you
have
to
sort
of,
we
can't
really
overwhelm
people
with
asks.
You
know
we
have
to
be
sort
of
judicious
about
what
we,
what
we
try
and
get
people
to
do
so,
one
of
the
things
we're
hoping
to
do-
and
this
is
before
these
go
out-
we'll-
have
a
sign
up
form
on
the
website.
I
That
says
I
would
like
to
be
notified
about
upcoming
public
hearings,
and
so
we
just
start
to
create
like
an
email
list,
or
you
know,
maybe
a
sms
list-
that
we
can
continue
to
notify
folks
to
attend
an
upcoming
public
hearing
or
or
a
commission
meeting
so
building
that
list.
But
then
you
know
so
that's
kind
of
the
the
general
ask
it's
like
go
to
the
website
and
sign
up
for
notifications.
I
The
the
specific
ask
is
attend
a
public
hearing
and
we
will
include
details
about
exactly
how
to
do
that
on
the
flyer,
and
hopefully
these
are
useful
for
all
of
you.
I.
I
hope
that
as
we
develop
these
for
our
community
partners
that
each
one
of
you
can
actually
take
this
flyer
and
and
forward
it
to
your
district
mailing
list,
that's
the
intent
here
we're
going
to
do.
I
I
appreciate
the
other
thoughts
about
kind
of,
like
you
know
the
commissions
and
boards,
but
you
know
we're
going
to
do
everything
we
can,
but
really
we
need
you
to
be
involved
with
the
promotion
and
outreach
we're
trying
to
empower
each
of
you
to
take
this
commission
out
to
the
public
in
a
way
that
has
been
asked
of
you
by
you
know
your
representatives
by
your
elected
officials.
I
So
really
it's
a
comment
upon
all
of
us
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
our
best
to
raise
awareness
about
the
the
commission
and
how
people
can
get
engaged
so
any
other
final
thoughts
about
kind
of
the
outreach
and
engagement
materialism
process.
I
If
you
have
any
more
ideas,
please
send
them
to
us
by
noon
tomorrow,
so
that
we
can
get
these
revised
and
in
your
hands
as
soon
as
possible.
C
I
want
to
just
on
behalf
of
the
commission
thank
lawrence
and
the
team
of
folks
and
vice
church
johnson
for
everyone
who's
been
working
on
this,
the
cbo
piece
of
this.
We
can
definitely
get
the
list
out
of
everyone
who
applied
and
we
definitely
will
be
working
with
everyone,
but
the
mouss
will
be
directed
for
cbo's
about
these
targeted
populations
that
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
included
but
really
appreciate
the
work
and
all
the
effort
that's
gone
into
the
getting
these
materials
together.
C
Lawrence
was
out,
you
know
ill
as
well
and
still
got
everything
done
for
us,
and
when
I
moved
when
I
presented
to
this
materials
to
the
cbo's
last
week,
I
thought
we
got
just
great
a
great
spirit
of
engagement
and-
and
I
I'm
excited
about
working
with
our
partners
and
then
the
more
materials
that
we
can
get
out
to
you,
the
more
I
know
you
can
use
them
in
different
ways.
C
So
thank
you
to
lawrence
and
our
team
for
all
their
work
in
bidding
this
together.
The
city
clerk's
office
in
lawrence
will
be
working
on
the
website.
So
if
you
have
other
ideas
or
examples
or
any
comments
about
how
the
website
can
be
more
user-friendly,
please
make
sure
that
you
send
those
to
us
as
well.
C
The
cbo's
gave
us
some
good
examples
of
materials
that
they
would
like,
and
so
we
will
be
adding
those
things
in
a
more
user-friendly
way
to
access
for
our
cbo
so
that
they
can
benefit
from
some
of
the
education
pieces
that
they'd
like
to
look
at
and
review
before.
They
talk
within
the
community
as
well.
C
So
again,
my
thanks
on
behalf
of
the
commission
lawrence
and
the
staff
for
getting
this
materials
and
a
lot
of
work
done
in
a
very
quick
amount
of
time
and
the
cbo's
are
giving
really
good
input
around
very
specific
and
direct,
especially
in
the
area
of
social
media,
and
we'll
continue
to
look
at
kind
of
broadening.
The
invitation
to
commissioner
fuentes,
point
of
to
the
commission
engage
with
a
commission
whether
that
be
a
public
hearing,
a
meeting
attending
a
event
in
the
community
as
much
different
kind
of
ways
of
communicating
with
us,
the
better.
C
I
A
Sound
like
you
were
just
offering
folks
like
here's
what
we
agreed,
we
were
going
to
pay
organizations
it
sounded
like
you
were,
asking
them
to
itemize
direct
costs,
which
raises
the
possibility
of
them
there
being
even
a
a
bigger
split
between
what
cbo's
are
paid
and
what
your,
what
your
company.
E
A
Then
those
slides
did
not
strike
me
as
unbiased,
similar
to
what
you
said,
mr
chairman,
the
slide
about
the
the
housing
department
not
working
fast
enough
for
the
construction
really
not
happening
fast
enough.
Very
much
comes
across
as
the
way
we
do.
It
now
is
bad.
Do
you
want
to
fix
it
by
giving
the
mayor
some
magical
powers
to
suddenly
change
all
the
dynamics
in
the
housing
and
construction
and
development
industry.
A
Next
speaker,
the
next
speaker
is
alina.
K
Hello,
commissioners,
yeah:
I
want
to
echo
what
matt
king
has
said.
I
feel
that
just
from
viewing
the
the
presentations
just
how
we're
talking
about
it
and
how
forms
of
government
change
over
time,
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
the
slides,
are
very
biased
towards
changing
our
form
of
government,
and
it's
not
really
talking
about.
K
You
know
what
is
broken
or
what
needs
to
be
improved
or
any
of
the
things
that's
been
discussed
for
the
last
five
months
with
our
presentations
from
all
sorts
of
experts,
and
so
I
I
see
that
there
is
a
direct
bias
in
a
lot
of
the
presentation
materials
as
it
is
now,
and
I
would
also
like
to
see
you
know
more
of
a
detailed
breakdown
of
how
the
budget
is
going
to
be
allocated
for
the
cbo's.
K
I
don't
feel
that
making
cbo's
work
to
itemize
every
single
budget
align
item
and
justify
it
is
going
to
help
them
reach
the
audience
more
ceos,
especially
non-profits,
are
already
doing
a
lot
of
reporting
for
grant
funding,
and
I
feel
like
this
is
just
another
added
barrier
and
in
terms
of
more
transparency
I
feel,
like
you
know
the
presentation.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
to
comment
on
them
and
also
not
sharing
the
the
list
of
ceos
that
have
applied.
K
I
feel
conflicts
with
your
commissioner
agreements
and
this
whole
process
right
now
doesn't
seem
very
transparent
and
what
we
could
do
and
also.
I
really
feel
that
there
should
be
more
of
an
open
discussion
about
subcommittees
being
open.
It's
really
hard
for
us
to
follow
when
all
these
meetings
are
private
and
we're
only
getting
materials
three
days
advance
on
a
friday
over
a
weekend.
It
doesn't
really
give
us
a
lot
of
time
to
research
and
be
involved
and
provide
meaningful
feedback.
C
All
right
new
business
is
our
subcommittee
reports
out
in
this
area
we're
going
to
walk
through
lawrence
I'll,
walk
through
the
process,
questions
and
give
you
some
updates
around
that
and
then
be
able
to
start
looking
at
a
little
bit
more
about
the
subcommittees
themselves
and
answering
to
some
of
the
questions
that
have
come
up
in
the
process
side
before
we
get
to
the
content
piece
lawrence.
I
Great
thank
you
chair.
I'm
going
to.
I
Do
my
best
not
to
answer
the
specific
questions
that
were
put
to
me
because
of
the
difficulty
of
the
public
meeting
process,
but
thank
you
for
for
the
feedback
from
the
public,
so
subcommittee
reports
discussion
of
possible
action.
This
is
a
new
agenda's
item
that
will
be
on
the
commission
agenda
moving
forward
until
we
have
draft
majority
or
minority
reports.
I
I
want
to
give
a
little
bit
of
an
update
on
the
subcommittee
process
and
answer
any
questions
or
some
of
the
questions
that
have
come
up
both
in
subcommittees
and
via
email,
and
then
we
will
get
into
some
of
the
specific
content
questions
that
have
come
up
and
you
know
over
time
as
the
subcommittees
start
rolling
and
everyone
feels
comfortable
with
the
process.
I
This,
this
section
will
become
probably
the
bulk
of
the
of
the
of
the
commission
conversation
about
facilitating
the
exchange
necessary
exchange
of
information
between
subcommittees
because
of
the
the
brown
act,
considerations
and
and
the
need
to
prevent
serial
meeting
violations.
You
know
we
have
created
this
new
agenda
item
to
to
facilitate
that
exchange
of
information.
I
Again,
the
subcommittees
are
being
asked
to
share
their
work
plan
notes
and
any
potential
recommendations
for
review
by
the
friday
before
commissioned
meetings.
So
at
this
point
we
have
received,
I
believe,
notes
and
work
plan
from
all
the
subcommittees,
except
I
think
there
was
some
confusion,
some
questions
that
we'll
address
tonight
from
the
accountability
representation.
Inclusion
subcommittee.
I
Thank
you
all
for
the
sort
of
the
the
writing
over
the
the
the
bumps
and
the
few
of
the
hurdles
that
they
came
up
but
and
apologies
that
I
was
not
able
to
be
present.
I
I
did
have
a
you
know
a
fairly
pressing
health
issue
two
weeks
ago,
just
when
most
of
the
subcommittees
were
getting
started,
so
marielle
stepped
in,
and
I
want
to
thank
her
for
doing
a
great
job,
facilitating
and
supporting
you
all
from
what
she
shared
it
sounded
like
you
were
all
eager
and
excited
to
finally
have
an
opportunity
to
have
a
bit
more
of
a
free
exchange
of
of
dialogue
and
conversation
about
sort
of
potential
recommendations
for
for
the
and
and
topics
to
discuss
for
the
for
the
commission.
I
So
I'm
really
glad
that,
for
the
most
part,
the
the
initial
meetings
went
well
following
up
on
those
first
meetings.
I
You
should
all
have
your
next
meeting
scheduled,
and
so
you
know,
you'll
just
be
continuing
to
have
those
meetings
and
discussing
potential
topics
and
generating
recommendation
memos
and
sharing
them
with
the
commission
when
they're
ready
to
facilitate
that
there's
a
couple
more
things
we're
gonna
do
and
and
if
you
need
additional
support,
you
know
just
let
us
know
and
we'll
make
it
happen.
I
We
will
only
be
able
to
share
that
with
the
commissioners
that
are
on
each
subcommittee
again,
because
of
and
that
will
not
be
able
to
be
made
public
because
of
the
brown
act.
Serial
meeting
concerns,
so
we
I
think
marielle
was
going
to
try
and
do
that
today
to
share
that
google
drive
folder
with
you
all
for
each
subcommittee.
If
not
then
that'll
happen
within
the
next
day
or
so.
I
Additionally,
we're
going
to
be
putting
together
compiling
the
the
resources
that
have
come
up
that
are
going
to
be
particularly
relevant
for
your
subcommittee,
we're
going
to
go
through
all
of
the
meeting
agendas
and
materials
that
have
been
posted,
including
letters
from
the
public,
to
just
make
sure
that
each
subcommittee
has
all
the
pertinent
information
and
there
might
well
be
overlap.
But
you
know
we'll
just
make
sure
that
you
all
have
the
the
most
pertinent
materials
for
for
your
area
of
focus.
I
So
you
can
expect
to
have
that
shared
google
drive
available
shortly
and
then
those
additional
references
or
resources
that
you
may
already
have,
but
just
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
doing
our
due
diligence
and
you'll
have
those,
hopefully,
by
the
end
of
the
week,
a
couple
questions
that
have
arisen,
sort
of
sourcing
topic
and
getting
public
input.
I
The
as
far
as
public
input
is
concerned,
the
way
that
we
are
envisioning.
This
thing
this
happening
is
that
again
we're
going
to
put
a
a
form
up
on
the
website
and
that
form
will
be
signing
up
for
notifications.
But
also
is
there
anything
that
you,
you
know
want
to
share
and
as
relevance,
topics
or
considerations
or
comments
come
in
through
that
form?
We
will
direct
them
this.
I
Additionally,
there
might
be
emails
that
come
in
and
we'll
forward
those
as
well-
and
you
know,
as
far
as
sourcing
additional
ideas,
there's
a
conversation
question
about
how
to
source
additional
ideas.
I
think
you
know
this
is
where
the
research
comes
in.
I
You
know,
looking
at
other
municipalities
looking
at
other
charters,
if
they're
tonight,
you
know,
I
think,
is
an
opportunity,
as
we
get
into
the
subcommittee
conversation
for
other
commissioners,
to
share
potential
topics
and
again
the
the
first
public
hearing
on
the
28th
is
is
a
big
moment
for
us
to
to
ask
the
public
directly
and-
and
hopefully
you
know,
with
some
some
good
engagement
and
idea
generation.
You
know
what
other
topics
should
we
be
thinking
about,
so
I
think
it's
a
mix
of
of
the
the
sources
of
the
topics.
I
Our
other
commissioners
and
making
sure
that
you're
sharing
ideas,
and
so
that
would
again
be
directed
through
this
during
this
meeting
or
or
directed
through
the
the
secretary's
email
from
the
public,
either
through
public
hearing
or
emails
to
the
secretary
or
the
interest
form,
and
then
yourselves
in
your
research
and
the
I
we're
not
going
to
necessarily
say
that,
like
you
know,
this
is
a
cap
on
the
of
the
final
list
of
topics
or
you
know
idea
not
that
we
can't
add
new
ideas,
but
we
do
have
to
work
within
the
the
deadlines
that
we
have
for
for
the
public
hearing.
I
So
we
are
going
to
ask
that
you
know
we.
We
try
and
front
load
the
work
of
of
finalizing
topics
and
generating
the
recommendation
memos
as
soon
as
possible.
So
I
want
to
just
address
some
of
the
questions
that
came
up
in
that
regard,
and
you
know
really.
You
know,
there's
also
some.
I
think
you
know
some
commissioners
I
heard
were
a
little
hesitant
to
share
topics
because
they
weren't
sure
of
the
of
the
structure
the
subcommittee
was
finalized.
I
I
I
think
that
we
need
to
acknowledge
I
I
will
say
that
after
the
hearing
on
28th,
I'm
hoping
that
we
should
have
a
fairly
robust
list
of
of
topics
for
each
subcommittee,
if
it's
necessary
to
to
shift
around
the
organization
of
subcommittees.
After
that
meeting
to
address
some
of
the
topics,
then
we
can
do
so.
I
We've
tried
to
again-
and
I
know,
there's
been
some
conversation
about
potentially
merging
subcommittees.
I
I
would
ask
that
we'd
just
be
patient
to
see
what
comes
up
in
the
first
public
hearing
and
and
similar
to
the
to
the
idea
of
having
kind
of
like
a
larger
accountability,
representative
representation
and
inclusion
subcommittee.
That
would
break
out,
which
is,
I
think,
a
recommendation
from
commissioners,
tran
and
matsumura,
and
vice
chair
johnson.
I
You
know
to
basically
sort
of
use
the
same
kind
of
spirit
and
say
what's
going
to
what
else?
Are
we
going
to
hear
from
over
the
next
two
weeks
from
commissioners
and
the
public
and
and
at
the
public
hearing?
And
then,
let's
make
a
kind
of
file
final
decision
as
a
group
on
the
28th
about
sort
of
how
to
how
to
finalize
the
subcommittee
structure.
If
there's
any
changes
that
are
necessary,
I
realize
it's
imperfect.
Categorization
of
anything
is
imperfect
because
in
in
reality,
there's
a
lot
of
overlap.
Nothing
is
black
and
white.
I
There's
always
shades
of
gray,
so
appreciate
you
kind
of
working
within
sort
of
that
kind
of
vague
gray
area
for
right
now,
until
we
have
the
opportunity
to
hear
from
the
public
on
the
28th,
there
are
some
questions
that
came
up
around
supporting
documentation,
requests.
How
should
requests
for
supporting
documentation
be
processed?
I
If
you
want
to
hear
or
see
a
different
charter
or
other
things,
I
would
recom,
I
would
request
that
you
send
those
to
the
secretary
and
cc
myself
and
the
chair
just
so
that
that
generally
like
that's
the
best
flow
of
information
from
subcommittees,
is
to
email,
the
chair
and
cc
myself
and
and
excuse
me
cece,
the
secretary
I.e,
megan
and
cece
myself
and
the
chair.
So
that's
we're
aware
of
of
the
flow
of
information
and
then
megan
can
can
route
things
accordingly.
I
I
At
this
point
it's
available
and
we
need
to
know
from
you.
You
know
what
type
of
research
you
need.
We
have
a
number
of
folks,
some
of
the
speakers
that
that
have
from
university
of
north
carolina,
chapel
hill
and
their
school
of
government
and
other
options.
If
we
need
to
find
somebody
to
meet
a
research
request,
we
can
do
that,
but
the
the
process
at
this
point
is
again
to
email.
I
The
secretary
cc
myself
and
the
chair,
and
if
you
have
a
research
request,
we're
obviously
going
to
need
to
balance
that
out
with
the
available
budget
across
the
different
subcommittees.
So
we
would
ask
that
you
share
the
topic
for
the
research
any
existing
research,
you've
conducted
or
sort
of
the
state
of
the
research
that
you
have
or
haven't
conducted,
and
then
any
specific
specialties
that,
like
you,
would
like
to
have
in
a
and
a
researcher.
So
we'll
follow
up
that
with
that
in
a
an
email
so
that
you
you
have
that
available.
I
But
again
now
is
the
time
for
subcommittees
the
that
funding
is
available
to
to
support
additional
research.
So
I
think
that
there's
a
general
sort
of
understanding
that
you
all
are
doing
some
initial
research,
but
also
understand
that
there
is
specific
research,
specialties,
quantitative
research,
analysis
that
may
need
to
happen.
That
is
beyond
your
capacity
or
expertise,
and
so
we
want
to
hear
about
those
needs
and
requests
as
soon
as
possible.
I
So
we
can
get
them
met
and
you
know
we
can
have
a
transparent
discussion
about
those
requests
and
needs
during
commission
meetings,
and
you
know
really
where
we're
at
now.
I
want
to
pause
and
just
just
reflect
that
this
is
sort
of
the
first
opportunity
we're
having
to
have
an
exchange
between
subcommittees.
I
So
there's
a
couple
topics
that
have
come
up
as
far
as
content
that
I
wanted
to
seed
as
far
as
an
example
of
how
this
time
can
be
used-
and
you
know
also,
if
there's
additional
questions
that
that
you
all
have
about
any
of
what
I
just
shared.
Let's
use
the
rest
of
our
time
or
as
much
time
as
we
need
tonight
to
address
those,
but
you
know
before
we
get
into
the
questions.
Let
me
just
share
examples
of
the
type
of
question:
the
content.
I
When
I'm
calling
content
questions
that
came
up
that
I
would
like
to
use
as
an
example
of
how
subcommittee
should
be
using
this
time
to
exchange
information
and
kind
of
coordinate
their
their
their
efforts.
The
the
first
question
was
for
the
topic
about
rescheduling
elections
after
an
earthquake
emergency.
Would
this
be
handled
on
a
city
or
county
level?
So
I
think
that
the
that
subcommittee
is
is-
and
I
welcome
that
subcommittee
to
share
in
a
specific
clarification
there,
but
I
think
the
subcommittee
is
looking
for
feedback
from
the
commission.
I
Another
example
that
came
up
is
campaign
finance
indeed
under
the
purview
of
the
subcommittee
so
another.
I
think
question
for
for
the
the
overall
commission
to
discuss
during
this
subcommittee
report
out,
and
there
may
be
other
committee
other
questions
that
have
come
up,
that
I
would
ask
or
encourage
some
community
leads
to
to
share,
because
this
is
again
the
time
to
have
that
exchange
of
information,
so
that
overlap
areas
of
overlap,
questions
feedback
from
from
the
commission
back
to
the
subcommittees.
I
This
is
the
time
for
that,
so
this
is
in
addition
to
yeah,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
now.
This
is
the
I'm
just
gonna
pause
and
let
you
all,
let's
have
a
an
open
discussion
about
questions
about
it.
What
I
just
shared,
or
hopefully
some
some
content
conversations
too,
commissioner
posadas.
E
I
I
think
yeah
talk
about
it
now,
yeah,
please
go
ahead.
Yeah.
E
So
so
I
was
just
referring
to
the
last
paragraph
in
the
memo
where
it
talks
about.
If
the
commission
desires,
public
participation
at
an
ad
hoc
committee
meeting
and
the
requirements
of
the
brown
act
and
city
sunshine
resolution
should
be
followed.
If
we
had
a
subcommittee
wanted
to
invite
a
guest
speaker
does
that
trigger
the
brown
neck
and
city
sunshine.
H
H
The
guest
speaker
should
be
advised,
however,
not
to
discuss
with
other
commissioners
the
ideas
or
positions
of
the
subcommittee
members.
Okay,.
I
F
It's
not
so
much
a
question
as
an
observation
and
I'm
curious
if
others
are
feeling
the
same
way.
I
I
think
commissioner
calendar's
committee
is
is
feeling
a
little
bit
the
same
way
we
are
looking
at
we've
been
asked
to
look
at
a
number
of
things
that
if
we
decided
to
pursue
them
like
electing
a
police
chief,
electing
a
city
attorney.
F
Would
dramatically
affect
or
should
what,
for
instance,
the
basic
government
structure
people
are
doing
it's.
It
strikes
me
that
a
commissioner
calendar's
memo
talked
about
strengthening
the
police
auditor,
which
I
happen
to
be
very
much
in
favor
of
pursuing
more
than
some
other
things
we're
doing.
But
if
we're
looking
at
that,
then
do
we
really
want
to
be
looking
at
electing
a
police
chief.
F
It
feels
like
we're
getting
to
the
time
where
we
have
to
triage
some
topics.
We
had
a
meeting
sunday
night
long
story,
a
little
zoom
problem
on
our
thursday
night
meeting,
and
it
was
just
a
few
of
us.
So
we
ended
up
just
chatting
through
the
thing,
and
one
of
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
was
electing
a
city
attorney.
Is
that
something
that
has
been
a
problem
in
san
jose?
Is
that
something
that
we
can
research
thoroughly
enough
to
make
a
recommendation
on
that
by
november?
F
And
if
it's
not,
then
maybe
we
should
set
that
aside
and
be
looking
harder
at
some
other
things
that
we
know
are
of
more
interest
I'll
stop
there.
But
does
anyone
else
share
that
concern
and
have
have
any
suggestions
how
to
deal
with
it
before
we
get
to
the
end
and
all
of
a
sudden
have
proposals
that
kind
of.
B
A
Marshman
for
those
those
comments,
so
I
share
similar
concerns.
I
think
part
of
it.
You
know
just
as
an
example,
I'm
also
serving
on
a
commission
on
policing
for
the
san
jose
state.
A
A
So
I
do
think
that
the
subcommittees
might
be
might
benefit
from
just
wading
into
some
of
the
topics.
Seeing
what
kinds
of
questions
we
can
ask
ourselves
and
then
that
may
lead
us
down
very
quickly
signal
that
this
is
just
a
way
bigger
topic
than
we
could
certainly
adequately
address
in
the
short
amount
of
time
that
we
really
have
so
campaign.
A
I
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Fuertes.
J
Listening
to
the
last
two
comments
and
other
things
we've
been
talking
about
tonight
and
in
all
our
meetings,
I'm
very
concerned
that
we
are
feeling
the
pressure
of
the
deadline,
and
I
know
that
part
of
the
process
has
to
do
with
you
know
in
terms
of
the
timeline
is
depending
on
our
recommendation
needing
to
put
it
on
the
ballot
and
so
forth.
But
how
can
we
get
to
the
point
where
we
ask
ourselves
and
discuss
the
question
of?
J
J
I
will
share
that
with
with
our
chair,
chair
ferrer,
in
terms
of
how
can
we
ask
for
more
time,
and
can
we
explore
that,
and
can
we
do
something
like,
for
instance,
have
a
an
interim
report
in
interim
recommendations
so
that
other
critical
questions
for
our
city
can
be
pursued
so
that
we
can
have
more
time?
I
mean
it.
It
is
something
that
I
hope
we
can
figure
out
how
to.
J
I
hope
we
we,
as
a
commission,
can
address
this
question
and
then,
depending
on
on
what
our
thoughts
are,
move
it
to
the
next
step
and
and
chair
the
the
person
to
steer
us
in
that
in
that
process.
Thank
you.
F
I
thank
you
for
coming
back.
Oh,
I
am
not
muted.
I
I,
I
think.
That's
that's
a
really
good
point
and
and
my
thought
in
that
regard,
the
time
issue
is
maybe
I
mean
some
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
are
really
interesting,
but
I
don't
see
any
way
to
develop
expertise
and
the
authority
to
fully
recommend
them
to
our
voters
and
reconcile
them
with
one
another's
recommendations
that
that's
that's
a
big
one
for
me.
I
wonder
I
know
when
I've
mentioned
this
before
it
hasn't
been
particularly
well
received.
F
But
when
I
was
asked
to
serve
on
this
this
commission
I
was,
I
was
told
that
it
would
be
a
relatively
narrow
focus
because
it
needed
to
be
done
in
a
year
or
less
than
a
year,
and
I
wonder
if
we
could
come
to
agreement
on
some
of
the
things
that
were
part
of
that
initial
discussion
and
then
develop
a
recommendation
for
follow-up
which
we
could
do
or
another
commission
could
do
not
sure
how
an
election
year
goes
for
running
a
commission.
F
But
I
I
I
wonder
if
we
could
produce
recommendations
on
a
few
points
that
we
know
are
of
interest
by
november
in
sufficient
confidence
to
recommend
them
for
the
ballot
and
and
then
make
a
list
of
things
that
we
have
found
really
valid
to
con.
Consider
further.
I
I
I
just
want
to
take
facilitator's
prerogative
here
to
then
I'll
get
to
you
question
armador.
I
Another
way
to
look
at
this,
and-
and
this
was
actually
a
topic
that
was
put
up
for
consideration
for
one
of
the
subcommittees-
is-
is
a
recommendation
to
have
a
charter
vision
that
creates
a
regular
charter
review
commission
so
that
you're
basically
giving
this
process
more
time
in
the
future,
so
that
you
know
the
argument
could
be
that
this
is
just
not
enough
time,
and
this
needs
to
happen
on
a
regular
basis
for
the
city
to
be
responsive
to
sort
of
whatever
comes
up.
I
So
I
just
wanted
to
sort
of
make
sure-
and
I
thought
that
was-
I
can't
remember-
who
brought
that
up,
but
I
thought
that
was
a
very
smart
recommendation
that
it
becomes
another
strategy
to
sort
of
extend
the
opportunity
for
this
type
of
a
of
a
community
dialogue
about
the
future
of
san
jose
side.
Note
so,
commissioner,
amador.
G
I
Sorry
I
yeah
I'm
I'm
that's
that's
my
my
bad.
I
wasn't
looking
at
the
panelists
list
and
I
didn't
realize
that
your
video
was
down.
So
let's
go
to
commissioner
amador
and
then
I'll
go
to
commissioner
tran.
Thank
you.
F
K
Great
yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
really.
A
Emphasize
what
commissioner
fuentes
and
commissioner.
A
Said
as
well
on
the
time,
I
definitely
feel
rushed,
especially
as
I'm
trying
to
reach
out
sorry.
My
kids
are
here
as.
K
I'm
trying
to
reach
out
to
different
community
organizations
that
organize
around
these
issues,
they're
also
organizing
out
in
the
community
and
very
active,
and
so
it
becomes
very
hard
to
get
them
and.
A
I
Thank
you,
commissioner,
tran
and
then
calendar
and
lazad.
G
Thank
you.
Yes.
Actually,
I
strongly
agree
with
commissioners
marshmallow
fuentes
in
terms
of
the
time
issue
one
you
know,
and
I
don't
want
to
take
us
too
much
down
to
a
rabbit
hole
here,
but
one
of
the
thoughts
that
that
I've
had
that
I've
spoken
of
before,
I
think
was
that
I
believe
the
only
time.
Sensitive
issue
that
we
really
need
to
address
is
just
the
timing
of
the
mayoral
elections
and
the
extent
whether
or
not
to
extend
karma
mayor's
term
right.
G
If
that's
the
only
thing
that
we
are
really
time
bound
to,
then
perhaps
we
can
bifurcate
that
issue
and
you
know,
take
a
little
bit
of
the
pressure
off
so
that
we
can
be
more
thorough
in
regards
to
other
election
issues,
and
you
know-
and
this
can
be
inclusive
of-
I
guess
if
we,
if
there's
any
discussion
at
all
of
rescheduling
any
of
the
other
district
elections
as
well.
E
All
right-
and
I
wanted
to
respond
to
some
of
the
things
that
I
heard
in
1998.
There
was
a
firefighter
named
greminger
that
killed
an
african-american
man,
san
jose
firefighter
alex
milita
small.
At
that
time,
the
black
community
started
calling
for
changes
to
the
charter
changes
for
strengthening
the
the
independent
auditors
trying
to
strengthen
some
of
the
things
that
we're
doing.
E
We've
waited
for
nearly
a
quarter
of
a
century
to
try
to
make
change
and
try
to
affect
change
in
the
charter
for
things
that
we
believe
affect
our
community.
I
think
it's
worth
trying
to
see
how
far
we
can
get.
I
understand
it's
taking
11
months.
It
said
I
was
a
state
to
talk
about
policing,
but
we've
been
talking
about
this
in
my
community
for
many
many
much
longer,
and
I
don't
want
to
have
to
walk
around
in
the
community
and
say
that
we
didn't
try
because
we
may
have
run
out
of
time.
E
I
would
hope
that
we
tried
to
pull
enough
time,
and
this
is
what
I've
been
saying.
I've
been
talking
about
this
this
february.
I
was
saying:
look
we're
in
february,
we're
in
march
we're
in
april
now
here
we
are
in
june
and
now
we're
having
the
conversation
that
we're
going
to
run
out
of
time.
So
if
you
can
feel
my
frustration,
yes,
it's
definitely
there.
I
came
the
reason
why
I
sat
on
this
is
because
my
community
has
tried
to
make
this
change.
My
community
has
been
begging
for
this
change.
E
I
E
Thank
you.
I
wanted
to
get
back
to
commissioner
marshman's
initial
comment
about
triaging
or
combining
some
of
the
topics
that
are
in
some
of
the
other
subcommittees,
and
she
mentioned
the
in
particular
hiring
of
a
or
the
election
of
a
police
chief
and
the
city
attorney.
E
So
the
the
governor's
commit
commission
is
looking
at
moving
around
some
of
the
either
the
powers
of
the
mayor
or
taking
some
things
away
from
the
city
manager.
And
so
I
think,
if
we're
going
to
be
giving
making
suggestions
to
give
to
the
council
or
the
mayor
more
powers
with
regard
to
hiring
or
firing
the
the
council
appointed.
E
Individuals
then
maybe
the
issue
about
whether
it
should
be
an
elected
position
needs
to
be
in
the
governance,
because
we
can't
you
know,
change
the
governance
with
regard
to
the
to
the
council
appointed
and
then
have
the
other
committee
come
up
and
say:
oh
no
forget
about
you,
know
who's
going
to
appoint
them.
We
think
they
should
be
elected.
E
So
I
think
that
that's
you
know,
there's
a
there's
a
conflict
there
and
then,
with
regard
to
something
that
one
of
the
speakers
talked
about,
we've
talked
about
this
before
I
call
it
mission
creep.
E
I
I
I
wonder:
if
there's
going
to
be
a
time
when
we
we
make
a
decision
with
regard
to
filtering
some
of
the
things
that
were
we're
looking
at
through
the
lens
of
what
we
were
asked
to
do
initially
and
as
so,
I
think
commissioner
tran
said
you
know
why
don't
we
knock
off
real,
quick,
the
the
question
about
the
election,
because
that's
really
something
that's
under
time
constraint,
and
then
we
look
at
some
of
the
other
governance
things
and
then
we
get
to
some
of
the
issues
of
overall
accountability.
E
That's
bringing
so
many
of
the
other
issues
that
the
community
are
interested
in
and,
and
it
may
come
that
if
we
knock
off
the
two,
you
know
the
two
things
that
that
are
important
and
the
third
bucket,
which
is
what
is
really
what
is
the
community
on
with
regard
to
accountability
and
and
and
things
like
that,
that
that
would
require
more
time
or
also
our
governance
committee,
as
as
someone
mentioned,
is
looking
at
the
more
frequent
reviews
of
the
charter,
and
so
that
would
be,
you
know,
maybe
make
that
part
of
the
next
charter
review,
not
all
of
them,
but
some
of
them.
E
So
I
I
just
think
that
we
need
to
be
careful
about
what
I
call
mission
creep
and
and
getting
into
things
number
one
we
weren't
asked
to
get
into,
but
we
can't
we
can't
go
out
to
the
community
and
say
tell
us
what
you
think
is
wrong
with
the
city
and
we're
going
to
change
the
charter
to
fix
that
it
might
not
be
a
charter
change.
E
You
mentioned
chair
for
our
about
the
little
saigon
and
how
it
was
how
it
was
named
that
I
make
I
could
be
mistaken,
but
I
don't
think
that's
in
the
charter,
it's
in
a
council
policy
about
naming
things
so
that
wouldn't
even
come
to
the
charter,
and
so
at
some
point
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
giving
the
community
a
false
sense
that
what
they
bring
to
us
we
can
put
in
the
charter
and
make
a
change.
E
And,
finally,
I
think
we
need
to
think
about
what
both
bob
brownstein
and
john
collins
said
is
about
that.
For
the
most
part
you
know
the
charter
is
working
and
we
need
to
be
careful
about
what
we're
going
to
tweak.
Not
everything
needs
to
be
changed.
Not
everything
needs
to
be
a
charter
change,
because
you
can
change
a
policy
on
seven
votes,
a
charter
change
you
need
to
take
to
the
voters,
so
there
may
be
a
whole
bunch
of
things
that
the
community
wants
that
this
this
commission
wants.
E
I
really
don't
go
in
the
charter.
They're
really
policy
recommendations
that
maybe
we
can
make
in
a
minority
report
or
something
else
that
are
gonna,
be
more
directly
answerable
or
answers
for
the
community.
E
So
I
think
we
need
to
stay
focused
on
what
really
is
a
charter
change
and
what
really
should
just
be
a
policy
that
we're
gonna
recommend
you
know.
So
that's
what
I
have
to
say.
I
Thank
you,
city
attorney,
bonnie,
you've
had
your
hit
up,
and
then
commissioner
matsumura.
H
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
just
weigh
in
on
a
few
of
the
issues.
With
regard
to
the
timing,
the
commissioners
are
correct
that
if,
with
regard
to
the
election
date,
there
is
a
deadline,
because
we
will
want
to
put
that
on
the
june
2022
ballot
and
that
that
assumes
that
the
election
will
be
shifted
to
the
presidential
election
in
2024,
if
that's,
indeed,
what
the
commission
recommends.
In
addition,
I
want
the
commission
to
also
be
aware
of
some
other
things
that
may
affect
the
timing
under
the
elections
code.
H
Any
charter
amendment
that
and
I'm
paraphrasing
here
essentially
affects
the
employment
rights
of
a
city,
employee
or
a
public
employee,
must
go
in
a
statewide
general
election,
so
it
must
go
in
november
and
also
depending
on
the
recommendation
it
may
trigger,
what's
called
seal
beach
bargaining,
which,
if
it
is
something
that
affects
employment,
then
the
city
is
obligated
to
go
forward
and
negotiate
with
the
unions
that
are
affected
by
it
before
it
puts
it.
On
the
ballot.
D
Thank
you.
This
is
actually
on
items
other
than
the
timing
and
sort
of
triaging
discussions,
so
I'm
pausing
to
see
if
any
other
hands
go
up
on
that
item
before
I
raise
other
issues,
but
I
don't
see
them
going
up.
I
I
had
a
handful
of
things,
so
I
hope
I
could
get
through
each
of
them.
The
first
was
a
question
to
the
consultant
and
the
chair.
My
understanding
is
that
we
have
two
out
of
the
four
people
on
the
inclusion
and
accountability
subcommittee,
who
don't
want
to
be
on
that
subcommittee?
I
We
talked
about
it
a
little
bit.
You
know:
we've
tried
to
these
subcommittee's.
I
Assignments,
if
you
will
were
developed
based
on
the
preferences
that
you
all
shared
on
may
3rd,
when
we
first
had
this
conversation
and
then
we
presented
a
list
on
march
7
may
17th,
which
was
revised.
So
we've
done
our
absolute
best
to
to
make
sure
that
that
that
the
interest
they
give
give
multiple
opportunities
for
commissioners
to
express
their
interest
and
on
which
subcommittee
to
sit,
and
you
know
we're
in
a
little
bit
of
a
bind
because
of
the
the
brown
act
concerns
now.
I
I
The
other
thing
that
we've
talked
about-
and
this
is
again
being
sort
of
responsive
to
the
desires
of
the
of
the
expressed
state
of
desires
of
the
commissioners,
is
to
not
finalize
subcommittee
topics
until
we've
actually
heard
from
the
public
in
a
meaningful
way
about.
What's
of
interest
to
them,
and
so
now
that
we've
kind
of
gone
through
the
process
of
asking
for
additional
council
funding
getting
that
funding,
selecting
the
the
cbos
the
community
partners
that
you've
all
asked
for
getting
the
materials
up
and
finally
getting
to
a
public
hearing.
I
I
think
we're
on
the
cusp.
Hopefully
you
know
I'm
hopeful
that
we
actually
will
generate
some
some
input
from
the
public
at
our
next
commission
meeting
at
the
hearing
on
the
28th,
hopefully
able
to
sort
of
finally
realize
the
the
requests
you've
all
made
and
and
to
use
that
as
an
opportunity
to
step
back
and
say.
Okay,
now
that
we've
heard
from
the
public,
how
do
we
want
to
sort
of
rethink
our
our
subcommittee
structure
here?
So
I
I
am
open.
I
had
sharon.
I
I
haven't
talked
about
sort
of
like
specifics
about
how
this
would
happen.
I'm
also
I'm
both
a
little
nervous
just
about
sort
of
managing
the
brown
act
concerns
over
too
many
subcommittee
membership
changes,
but
I
am
also
open
to
making
changes
based
on
sort
of
what
we
hear
from
the
public
and
kind
of
like
a
final
list
of
topics
and
potentially
triage
topics.
I
So
my
my
request
would
be
that
we
sort
of
fulfill
the
your
request
to
hear
from
the
public
before
we
make
any
final
decisions
or
for
you
make
any
final
decisions
about
how
the
subcommittee
should
be
restructured,
because
what
I
don't
want
to
do
is
make
a
whole
bunch
of
changes
after
tonight's
meeting
and
then
have
to
make
a
whole
another
bunch
of
changes
after
the
public
hearing,
because
I
think
that
we
could
probably
only
afford
to
make
changes
once
because
of
the
serial
meeting
concerns.
So
I
personally
am
open
to
that.
I
I
don't
know
how
the
chair
feels,
but
I
think
we
have
to
be
use
this
for
we're
already
tonight,
but
judicious
about
sort
of
like
how
we
approach
subcommittee
topics
and
membership
and
again
just
let's,
let's
be
patient
for
these
last
two
weeks
and
hear
the
public
have
to
say
and
then
and
then
move
forward.
I
And
you
know
I
really
appreciate
the
conversation
about
what's
most
important
and
prioritizing
based
on,
hopefully,
some
of
that
public
input
if
it
fits
within
the
the
purview
of
the
charter
that
you
all
the
directives
that
you
all
sort
of
agree
to.
So
those
are
my
thoughts,
charity
of
anything
to
add
no
okay.
D
Thank
you
and
it
would.
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
if
you
before
the
public
hearing
could
spell
out
how
you're
envisioning
a
process
for
any
potential
changes
to
subcommittees.
I
hear
what
you
said
about
the
commissioner
opportunities
for
input
on
committees,
but
we
left
the
may
17th
meeting
with
without
knowing
what
the
new
committees
were
going
to
be
and
and
so
there
there
wasn't
an
opportunity
once
those
committees
had
been
established
for
for
people
to
say,
and
people
actually
moved
from
the
tentative
committees
that
they
were
on.
D
Excuse
me
in
the
may
17th
material.
So
I
think
if,
as
you
said,
we're
only
going
to
be
able
to
change
committees
once
and
that
opportunity
is
going
to
come
very
soon
that
having
a
very
clear
process
about
that,
so
that
that
we
don't
have
further
issues
is
going
to
be
really
important.
I'm
actually
not
one
of
the
people
requesting
to
change
committees,
but
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
that
our
committees
are
are
functional.
The
second
question
can.
D
I
D
Okay,
thank
you
also,
for
I
had
a
a
question
about
the
the
template
for
subcommittees
to
bring
back
recommendations.
D
I
believe
it
was
commissioners,
borosio
and
amador
who
had
put
forward
some
very
thoughtful
ideas
about
what
could
be
included
in
that
template.
I
was
really
looking
forward
to
engaging
with
those
ideas.
I
do
think
that
the
template
needs
more
of
an
equity
analysis
than
just
sort
of.
D
I
don't
have
the
phrasing
in
front
of
me
right
now,
but
what
are
the
equity
implications,
given
the
the
commitment
that
our
commission
has
made
to
prioritizing
equity
and-
and
I
see
that
we
already
have
subcommittees-
understandably
starting
to
use
the
template-
you
know
lawrence-
you
had
said
you
wanted
to
take
the
the
suggestions
from
commissioners,
amador
and
borosio
and
and
come
back
to
us.
What's
the
plan
around
that.
I
I
I
We
also
incorporated
their
suggestion
of
kind
of
like
what
are
the
arguments
against
this
proposal
and
we
incorporated
sort
of
the
the
research
and
citations
from
suggestions,
so
we
were
both
responsive
to.
I
I
think
the
incorporating
the
spirit
of
their
ideas
and
some
of
the
specific
ideas,
while
also
recognizing
that
you
know
eight
questions
for
a
recommendation
template
it
could
be
a
significant
lift
and
trying
to
balance,
giving
you
all
kind
of
a
a
framework
to
use
to
that's
not
too
burdensome
to
get
recommendations
brought
forward,
while
also
you
know
doing
the
due
diligence,
especially
around
the
equity
piece.
So
I
mean
to
my
to
my
to
my
thinking.
I
You
know
we
certainly
looked
at
the
recommendations,
appreciate
them
and
incorporated
them
and
never
heard
any
other
feedback
from
folks.
As
far
as
having
these
sent
out,
so
you
know
that
that
was
the
process
that
we
followed
there.
D
Okay,
I
I
thank
you
thank
you
for
that,
and
I
guess
I
would
say
it
would.
It
would
be
helpful
to
have
things
like
that
flag.
That
has
been
the
subject
of
commission
discussion
before
there's
been
a
lot
of
content,
and
I
really
appreciate
the
volume
of
content
that
that
the
consultant
staff
chair
has
been
producing
so
so,
knowing
that
that's
in
there
so
that
we're
able
to
respond
would
be
helpful,
especially
because,
in
addition
I
had
been
hoping
to
propose
an
edit.
D
Currently,
the
template
says:
must
this
be
a
charter
revision
and
I
think
better
phrasing
would
be.
Why
should
this
be
a
charter
revision?
D
A
C
I
think
that's
one
of
those
things,
commissioner.
I
don't
see
that
that's
a
big
problem,
unless
somebody
has
major
objections
to
it,
because
that's
really
just
the
way
that
the
subcommittee
is
presenting
the
argument
to
us.
So
if
the
question
makes
more
sense
to
you
clarifying
it
in
the
way
that
you're
suggesting
I
was
writing
down
your
language
when
you
were
speaking
so
you
know,
I
think
that
that's
an
edit
we
can
make.
I
know,
but
the
subcommittees
can
really
argue
it.
C
Whichever
way
they
believe
is
most
compelling,
so
definitely
the
idea
that
it
doesn't
have
to
only
be
in
the
charter,
but
it
could
be
in
the
charter
and
that's
the
reason
why
you're
recommending
it.
I
think
that
makes
full
sense
unless
I
see
some
major
objection
to
that
edit.
I
think
we
can
move
forward
with
it.
C
Good
thing,
then
we
can,
we
can
move
forward
to
edit,
but
again
subcommittees
are
writing
these
arguments?
If
you
will
in
that
way-
and
I
would
I
would
also
just
go
back
to
your
first
question
around
the
commissioners
who
gave
us
feedback
around
the
equating
piece-
we
tried
to
make
the
language
very
specific
to
the
equity
questions
that
are
asked
in
the
city
equity
work
that
you
heard
from.
C
So
we
matched
those
two
things,
so
we
were
taking
the
spirit
of
the
memo
recommendations,
as
well
as
the
presentation
from
the
office
of
racial
equity
within
the
city
to
make
sure
that
we
kind
of
kept
the
same
language
kept
the
same
inclusionary
kind
of
language.
So
definitely
those
kinds
of
things
are
edits
that
we're
happy
to
make
when
we
can,
when
we
get
feedback
directly
from
you
after
we've
sent
out
materials.
D
D
Is
that
going
to
be
discussed
on
the
dates
that
we
show
governance
structure,
yeah.
I
That
was
a
mistake
that
was
not
intended
to
be
shared
by
the
subcommittee
that
was
interred.
That
was
not
intended
to
be
shared
by
the
subcommittee
with
the
entire
commission.
That
was
only
intended
to
be
shared
with
the
subcommittee
for
review,
so
there
was
a
miscommunication
on
the
secretary's
end,
so
that
was
not
ready
for
review
by
the
full
commission
that
will
show
up
in
your
inboxes
and
and
then
it'd
be
agendized.
I
But
the
idea
is
that
you
know,
I
believe
commissioner
zot
prepared
that
the
subcommittee
would
would
review
it.
Make
revisions
discuss
and
then
be
shared
by
the
friday
before
a
commission
meeting
and
agenda
is
for
discussion.
Underneath
the
subcommittee
reports
section
of
our
of
our
agenda.
We
have
deadlines
just
to
kind
of
reiterate
the
timeline.
I
We
have
deadlines
that
are
in
the
timeline
now
for
subcommittee
recommendations,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
if
there
are
subcommittee
recommendations
that
are
ready
before
those
deadlines
that
they
shouldn't
be
shared,
I
think
you
know,
as
soon
as
something
is
is
ready,
send
it
out,
so
it
can
be
sort
of
digested
by
the
public.
You
know
by
other
commissioners
and
and
just
be
queued
up
for
the
the
conversations
to
come.
Does
that
answer
your
question,
commissioner?.
I
Sure
thank
you
for
those
commissioner
siegel.
A
Thank
you
so
much
lawrence,
I'm
glad
you're
feeling
better.
Thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work.
Thank
you.
When
I
was
looking
at
the
subcommittee
assignments,
it
struck
me
that
accountability
and
inclusion
really
should
be
that
group.
Those
four
people
should
be
in
every
single
other
subcommittee
because,
as
it
is
to
sort
of
stick
them
in
their
own
subcommittee,
they
effectively
have
no
subject.
A
There's
no
topic,
there's
no
substance
into
what
they're
discussing
so
they're,
not
involved
in
governance
structures,
they're
excluded
from
those
conversations
they're
not
involved
in
voting
in
elections
or
municipal
law
and
policing,
they're
excluded
from
all
substantive
dialogues.
So
how
are
they
at
all
contributing
to
accountability
and
inclusion?
What
are
they
even
talking
about
they're,
not
talking
about
any
of
the
substantive
things
we're
talking
about,
so
my
question
is
really
directed
to
mark
mark.
A
How
can
we
get
these
four
people
in
each
of
the
other
three
subcommittees
so
that
they
take
their
equity
lens
and
apply
it
to
the
discussions
in
the
other
three
subcommittees?
How
can
we
legally
do
that?
Can
you
help
us
mark
find
a
way
to
do
that,
so
that
we're
not
violating
brown
act
or
any
other
act.
H
Well,
I
I
can't
remember
the
exact
number
of
the
individuals.
Well,
let
me
begin
first
for
all
that
can
be
done
in
a
public
meeting
that
is
held
in
accordance
with
the
brown
act
and-
and
that
can
either
be
done
at
this
meeting
at
a
future
meeting
or
additional
meetings
that
this
body
may
call,
or
you
could
work
with
the
clerk's
office
and
and
trying
to
coordinate
something
among
these
different
subcommittees,
so
that
you
could
comply
with
the
brown
eye.
If
there
is
a
if,
if
breaking.
A
H
A
Can
I
just
clarify:
every
subcommittee
needs
to
have
accountability
and
inclusion
team
as
part
of
it.
So
can
we
just
find
a
way
to
include
them
in
every
subcommittee
dialogue,
otherwise,
we'll
come
up
with
something
and
completely
miss
their
accountability
lens
when
we're
done
when
we
sort
of
after
seven
or
eight
subcommittee
meetings,
so
we
would
have
wasted
our
time
it's
important
to
get
them
on
board
as
soon
as
possible.
In
every
subcommittee
meeting,
I.
I
Let
me
just
offer
clarification
about
sort
of
the
approach
with
the
accountability
representation
inclusion
subcommittee.
There
was
a
proposal
of
the
amari
proposal,
which
was
kind
of
like
the
sort
of
large
accountability,
representation,
inclusion
subcommittee
that
would
sort
of
be
broken
out
into
smaller
subcommittees
after
public
feedback.
So
I
I
I've
taken
the
spirit
of
that
and,
basically
understanding
that
you
know
it's
an
imperfect
categorization
right
now,
but
that
you
know
there
is
the
sort
of
sense.
I
At
least
I
have
the
sense
that
there's
potential
topics
that
could
come
up
from
the
public
at
the
first
hearing
that
could
feed
into
the
accountability,
representation
and
inclusion
subcommittee.
So
it
is
a
little
bit
light
now.
There
may
also
be
ideas
that
that
get
spun
off
there's
also
sort
of
a
sense
that
that
I
have
that
commissioners
that
are
interested
in
these
specific
topics
may
bring
with
them
areas
of
focus
topics
or
considerations.
I
Recommendations
to
pursue
so
I
I
really
do
now
is
the
time
for
for
you
to
do
the
work
and
for
each
of
you
to
sort
of
take
the
opportunity
with
the
subcommittees
and
the
sort
of
the
path
ahead
of
you
to
to
think
about
what
you
might
like
to
do,
or
talk
to
other
people
on
your
own
or
listen
to
the
public
during
hearings.
You
know.
I
I
also
recognize
that
we
may,
after
the
public
hearing,
need
to
sort
of
shuffle
things
around,
but
that
was
really
the
intention
that
I
I
thought
it
was
smart
to
sort
of
think
about
what
do
we
do
after
we
hear
from
the
public,
and
where
does
that
leave
us
as
far
as
subcommittee
topics
and
and
structure?
I
So
I
just
want
to
provide
a
little
context
there,
and
I
will
kind
of
reiterate
some
of
what
we
talked
to
mark
about
is
that
to
have
to
have
commissioners
on
multiple
subcommittees
creates
a
situation
in
which
we
would
have
to
brown
act.
We
would
have
to
a
branch
situation.
I
We
have
to
create
public
meetings
for
every
subcommittee,
which
is
going
to
further
slow
down
sort
of
the
pace
of
deliberation
and
development
of
recommendations
by
virtue
of
needing
to
have
every
meeting
agenda
posted
a
week
in
advance
to
have
staffing
available
to
have
zoom
meetings.
You
know,
and
it's
just
we
we've
agreed
that
that's
just
not
going
to
be
possible.
So
my.
A
Question
is
really
specific.
How
can
can
we
just
have
two
of
these
people
if
we
can't
have?
First
of
all,
what
is
the
exact
number
of
commissioners
from
group
four
that
we
could
have
it
on
the
other
three?
Can
we
have
one?
Can
we
have
two
without
violating
I
mean
we
still
want
subcommittees,
so,
commissioner
siegel,
I
think
the.
C
Answer
is
it
can't
be
a
majority
of
the
commission
right,
so
I
think
that
the
question
you're
asking
around
like
what
is
it
they're,
they're
supposed
to
be
really
focused
on?
I
would
ask
that
we
hold
that
question
until
after
the
first
public
hearing
to
see
are
there
assignments
that
come
from
the
public
hearing
in
which
we
say
this
subcommittee
on
governance
is
going
to
look
at
these
three
things,
but
we
need
somebody
else
to
look
at
this
specific
question.
C
If,
at
that
time
we
say
there
really
isn't
anything
that
makes
sense
to
have
us
as
separate
committee,
then
we
can
reorganize
and
add
them
to
the
other
committees,
similar
to
what
you're
suggesting
as
long
as
we
don't,
we
won't
have
a
majority,
so
we
can
do
that.
I
think
expeditiously.
So
I'd
ask
that
we
wait
until
that
point,
but
I
hear
your
comment
around
working
in
silos
in
that
area
specifically,
is
not
going
to
really
be
helpful.
C
I
don't
think
we'll
have
brown
asked
questions
or
challenges,
because
our
committees
are
low
enough,
so
I
think
we
can
easily
add
them
in
if
at
that
time
we
say
there
really
isn't
something
significant
that
we
want
them
to
do
and
we
want
to
move
them
to
the
others.
But
I
ask
that
we
wait
till
reorg
until
after
the
first
public
hearing.
A
Thank
you
and-
and
my
question
was
actually
the
point-
was
a
little
bit
reversed
from
that
characterization,
but
I
really
appreciate
you're
you're
taking
the
time
to
listen
to
it.
It
was
more.
How
do
we
get
accountability
and
inclusion
correct
in
these
three
if
those
folks
are
actually
somewhere
else
and
not
in
our
meetings
before
we
hear
that
thanksgiving.
I
Thank
you,
mr
siegel,
commissioner
borosio
and
then
commissioner
manley.
B
B
Go
ahead,
okay,
all
right!
Thank
you!
So
first
thank
you
lawrence
for
including
that
equity
language
in
the
templates.
I
really
do
think
it
does
add
a
little
bit
of
the
spirit
that
that
the
directives
point
us
to
and
then
also
commissioner
siegel.
Thank
you
thank
you
for
your
advocacy
to
ensure
that
all
the
subcommittees
have
have
a
depth
of
a
voice.
B
I
A
I
believe
commissioner
bazuto
hasn't
been
replaced,
yet
I
think
I
think
that
the
application
has
been
sent
out.
I
think
it's
district
10,
but
I
don't
know
if
we've
replaced
it
yet,
I'm
not
under
the
impression
that
we
have.
B
Okay,
I
would
I
would
look
towards
ensuring
that
we
fill
that
as
soon
as
possible.
We
don't
want
to
leave
any
any
district
under
underrepresented
and
that
kind
of
goes
along
with
my
math.
If
we
have
23
at
one
point,
then
that's
46,
and
if
we
have
four
standing
committees,
four
subcommittees
and
we
want
to
be
under
that
so
maxed
out
at
11,
so
4
times,
11
correct
me.
C
I
was
in
my
other
subcommittee
and
the
minute
I
started
talking
about
that
discussion.
Now,
I'm
in
violation
of
brown,
so
that
brown
act
circle
becomes
a
real
challenge
and
elected
officials
are
dealing
with
this.
All
the
time
of
who's
in
my
brown
act
circle
on
specific
topics
so
again
I'll
hold
in
the
rework
issue.
C
I
hear
you
in
terms
of
dissolving
some
commission
subcommittees,
adding
them
to
others,
adding
members
of
the
subcommittee
that
specifically
have
the
lens
of
inclusion
and
diversity
and
equity
lots
of
different
ways
that
we
can
kind
of
put
these
together
differently.
I'd
ask
that
we
hold
that
to
after
the
first
public
hearing.
B
Yeah,
no,
no,
and-
and
I
and
I
really
appreciate
that-
I
think
I
think
the
next
benchmark
of
june
28th
is
a
is
a
good
benchmark.
I
think
I
think
we
can
as
long
as
as
long
as
it
does
get
covered,
to
see
how
we
can
ensure
that
we
can
add
more
depth
to
the
subcommittees
right
in
terms
of
voices.
I
think
6654
is,
is
a
good
base,
but
I
think,
with
23
of
us
on
the
bench
right
ready
to
really
really
involve
ourselves
in
more
than
one
topic.
B
I
think,
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
to
engage,
obviously
with
with
with
with
with
the
guidelines
of
the
brown
act,
you
know
with
the
brown
egg
circle
not
not
infringed
upon.
I
think
it
will
add
some
of
that
depth
and
diversity
to
all
the
subcommittees.
So
I
really
do
look
forward
to
the
june
28th
benchmark,
and
I
appreciate
you
guys
thinking
ahead
on
that
and
so
the.
H
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
a
point
that
the
subject
matter-
jurisdiction
of
this
commission
is
broadly
defined
as
anything
related
to
the
charter
and
so
keep
that
in
mind
when
we're
discussing
reorganizing
subcommittees,
because
the
subject
matter
jurisdiction
is
not
necessarily
limited
to
individual
topics.
The
topic
is
much
broader
than
that.
It's
about
amending
the
charter,
consistent
with
the
areas
that
the
council
has
charged
with.
I
Yeah
we'll
watch
your
input
on
that
city
attorney.
So
thank
you.
We
have
commissioner
motley
and
then
I
also
saw
commissioner
marshman's
hand.
Okay.
F
F
We
look
at
on
our
subcommittees
in
the
greater
commission
meetings
through
a
lens
of
equity
and
inclusion,
and
I
I
know
that
our
entire
commission
is
very
diverse
and,
and
I
believe
that
every
subcommittee
is
doing
what
we're
doing,
which
is
looking
at
everything
that
we're
looking
at,
which
is,
in
our
case,
timing
of
elections
and
turnout
for
elections,
and-
and
I
know
that
all
of
us
are
looking
at
that
through
a
lens
of
inclusion
and
equity
through
in
every
discussion.
F
We
have
so
I'm
sure
that
there
is
a
role
for
the
accountability
and
representation
committee
and
we'll
find
that.
But
I
think
we
need
to
keep
on
our
mission
and
know
that
we
are
doing
the
right
thing.
F
I
F
I
Great
thank
you
before
we
move
on.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
two
specific
questions
that
were
that
came
up,
that
we
revisit
those
and
they
were
the
topic
about
rescheduling
elections
after
an
earthquake
emergency.
Would
this
be
handled
on
a
city
or
county
level,
and
then
the
campaign
finance
sort
of
like
purview?
I
G
Sure
yeah,
so
we
just
you
know
so
just
to
share
with
you
all
the
voting
and
election
subcommittee
is,
did
want
to
make
sure
that
we
were
responsive
to
the
memo
that
was
reported
by
council
member
sergio
jimenez,
so
we're
definitely
very
open
to
the
feedback,
but
just
also
share
with
the
commission.
G
It
looks
like
currently
the
city
clerk
is
proposing
a
way
to
boost
their
own
oversight
of
campaign
finance
spending,
so
we're
gonna
be
trying
to
take
into
consideration
what
is
currently
being
proposed
outside
of
charter
revisions
as
well
and
to
go
back
to.
I
forgot,
which
commission
I
mentioned
before,
but
one
of
the
questions
we
do
we'll
go
back
to
on
in
our
analysis
is
whether
there
are
any
such
proposals
should
be
in
the
charter
review.
D
Yeah,
just
regarding
this
issue
of
how
election
timing
might
be
affected
by
an
earthquake.
I
I
would
just
putting
out
there
with
no
expertise
on
this,
but
this
perhaps
has
already
been
contemplated
by
either
the
city
clerk,
the
registrar
of
voters
or
is
addressed
in
state
law,
and
so
is
there's
probably
questions
like
that.
D
That
perhaps
are
better
not
so
much
to
come
back
to
the
commission,
but
to
find
a
way
that
essentially
it's
a
research
question
for
for
policy
experts
and-
and
hopefully
we
can
find
a
way
to
as
expediently
as
possible,
make
sure
that
subcommittees
are
able
to
access
research
and
policy.
Information
like
that.
C
I'm
commissioned
that's
where
I'm
going
to
respond
to
that.
I
agree
with
you,
and
that
was
one
of
my
when
I
saw
the
question
I
was
like
that's
where
I
would
ask
the
city
attorney
to
tell
us
what
the
law
is
because
who
has
jurisdiction
is
a
legal
question
to
me.
So
if
we
could
get
clarity
from
the
city
attorney
around
what
is
the
county's
role
as
the
county?
You
know
and
register
our
voters,
what's
the
city's
part
of
that
in
terms
of
our
election
office.
C
So
it's
like
to
me
that's
a
good
example
of
a
question
that
a
subcommittee
should
send
to
the
city
clerk
for
not
necessarily
even
research,
but
just
the
quick
research
of.
Can
you
give
us
an
opinion
of
what
of
how
we
should
proceed
in
this
area?
So
that's
the
kind
of
good
question
to
send
in
so
that
we
can
get
you
back
information
in
a
timely
fashion
and
if
it's
going
to
take
more
research
or
more
it's
a
more
nuanced
question,
then
we
certainly
can
respond
in
a
different
way.
H
Yeah
and
if
I
can
just
chime
in
yes,
that's
the
type
of
question
that
that
I'm
capable
of
answering-
and
I
can
even
do
it
now-
I
mean
we
typically
consolidate
our
elections
with
the
county-wide
elections
for
cost
savings.
H
It
saves
an
incredible
amount
of
money
and
the
city
clerk's
office
frankly,
is
not
set
up
currently
to
manage
an
election
on
its
own.
So
once
we
send
a
ballot
measure
or
we
put
folks
on
the
ballot,
then
we're
just
subject
to
state
law,
and
if
you
have
any
questions
with
respect
to,
you
know
what
happens
in
the
event
of
an
emergency
or
something
of
that
nature
and
what
ability
the
city
has
to
call
a
new
election
or
something
like
that.
Please
send
it
in
to
the
clerk's
office
and
they
can
forward
it.
I
I
Remember
those
friday
deadlines
before
upcoming
commission
meetings
and
and
you
can
block
out
some
time
to
review
materials
before
the
upcoming
commission
meeting.
So
we
can
all
be
on
the
same
page
with
that,
I
guess.
Should
we
go
to
public
comment.
A
Good
evening,
I'd
like
to
speak
about.
A
Representation,
I
have
been
watching
most
of
the
meetings
of
this
commission
and
I
think
the
majority
of
the
commission
members
do
care
about
equity.
G
G
E
G
E
A
Yeah,
let
me
try
for
the
next
public
comment
and
let
me
know
if
it's
still
not
visible.
The
next
public
commenter
is
b
beekman.
G
Hi
blair
beekman
here
thank
you
for
the
meeting
today
to
comment
on
on
some
of
the
last
words
of
a
previous
speaker,
who
always
has
something
really
interesting
to
offer.
Thank
you
for
his
work
and
his
words,
you
know
to
myself.
G
Equity
you
know
can
be
talked
about
in
in
many
ways
and
and
to
really
talk
about
kind
of
the
heart
of
equity
is
to
talk
about
people
who
are
disadvantaged
basically
in
our
society
and
who
are
not
given
the
same
breaks
as
others,
and
it's
working
out
how
you
know
ways
that
they
can
have
some
of
those
same
breaks.
G
Basically,
and
I
don't
think
the
future
of
the
strong
mayor
you
know,
ideas
is,
is
how
to
give
breaks
to
developers
and
how
the
mayor
can
have
a
you
know,
a
silver
telephone
that
goes
directly
to
developers.
You
know
I
don't.
G
I
don't
think
that's
the
future
of
what
we're
talking
about
strong
mayor
ideas
and
that's
talking
about
equity,
that's
learning
to
talk
about
equity,
and
I
didn't
hear
today
at
this
meeting
you
know
my
feeling
importance
is
to
talk
about
how
community
can
be
more
involved
with
its
council
to
address
city
manager
ideas.
So
I
didn't
hear
much
talk
about
the
subcommittee
process,
how
there
can
be
public
input-
and
I
I
think
that's
been
denied
in
the
past
in
san
jose.
G
I
think
that's
something
to
really
work
towards
is
just
simple
public
input
to
the
subcommittee
process.
I'd
hope
to
ask
about
that,
and
thank
you
incredibly
for
asking
about
what
is
the
status
of
earthquake
and
how
to
talk
about
natural
disaster
and
earthquake
preparedness
for
the
next
few
years
in
san
jose,
and
the
legal
ramifications
of
that.
Thank
you
for
doing
that.
G
As
long
as
we
have
open
communication
always
about
the
subject,
no
matter
where
it
goes,
that's
important
just
I
hope
we
can
be
open
with
each
other
about
the
subject,
so
no
one
gets
hurt,
basically
and
good
luck
in
our
good
practices.
Thank
you.
K
Hi
I
wanted
you
to
speak
again
and
echo
what
the
two
previous
speaker
has
had
said.
K
I
think
from
the
beginning
that
this
commission
has
not
been
set
up
for
success.
Commissioner
lan
diep
had
mentioned
in
the
beginning,
like
what
is
the
process?
Are
we
doing
robert's
rules
of
order
or
rosenberg's
rules
of
order?
There
is
no,
you
know,
official
training
on
that
process.
I've
seen
serious
many
violations
where
public
comment
was
not
taken
before
a
vote,
and
I
think
that
in
the
in
the
future
we
should
really
outline
how
commissions
work.
K
We
should
have
the
racial
equity
presentation
done
by
the
office
of
racial
equity
in
the
beginning,
and
we
should
have
proper
training
on
how
procedures
and
memos
are
done
and
when
we
do
budget
requests.
If
it
goes
to
the
open
rules
committee,
all
of
that
process
should
be
laid
out
and
easy
to
follow.
K
A
lot
change,
since
you
know
the
internet,
and
just
in
the
last
two
years,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
have
changed
the
commissions
and
we
should
be
looking
at
our
charter
in
the
same
process
so
that
it
can
always
be
adapting
towards
new
crises
and
other
things
that
are
happening
within
our
community.
Thank.
C
Thank
you,
members
of
the
public
for
joining
us
this
evening
and
for
your
comments.
I
I'd
like
to
address
the
commission
just
in
terms
of
a
little
bit
of
feedback
to
our
comments
tonight
I
do
think
I
I
hear
your
concerns
about
timing.
It's
been
a
challenge
for
us
since
the
beginning,
we
have
not.
We
all
knew
the
timeline.
C
We
all
knew
the
timeline
was
going
to
be
a
challenge
as
we
move
forward,
I
am
going
to
try
to
keep
pushing
us
to
get
as
far
as
we
can
and
if
at
that
point
where
we
feel
like
there
are
items
that
are
beyond
the
scope
of
this
commission
and
that
we
want
to
recommend
them
further
for
further
study
or
for
a
next
commission
that
can
happen,
but
I'd
really
like
us
to
do
our
best
to
not
worry
about
that
piece
as
much
as
to
get
as
much
work
as
we
can
get
done
first,
and
really
focus
in
on
the
questions
that
the
council
directly
asked
us
about,
including
then
the
notions
of
equity,
inclusion
and
diversity
into
the
way
that
we
respond
to
them.
C
So
I'm
going
to
keep
trying
to
move
us
forward
in
that
way
to
see
as
far
as
we
can
get
for
these
very
important
topics,
I
will,
as
I
said,
I'd
like
to
ask
us
to
get
through
the
first
public
hearing,
I'm
asking
all
commissioners
to
make
sure
they're
encouraging
members
of
their
that
they
represented
the
districts
to
attend
the
hearing
and
to
be
able
to
hear
not
only
our
presentation
but
also
then
to
give
feedback
and
input.
C
I'm
not
as
concerned
about
the
conflicts
of
one
committee,
doing
something
in
another
committee
not
doing
something
at
the
very
beginning,
because,
as
soon
as
you
get
your
subcommittee's
recommendations,
as
you
know,
as
close
to
the
beginning
as
possible,
we're
going
to
have
full
discussions
around
them.
So
the
process
question
that
I
think
a
couple
commissioners
asked
we
will
have
your
subcommittee
reports
in.
We
will
have
time
to
have
looked
at
them.
C
We
will
obviously
know
when
there's
conflicts,
but
we're
not
going
to
go
too
far
down
the
line
before
the
recommendations
are
going
to
have
the
first
hearing.
If
you
will
at
a
commission
meeting
and
then
for
the
further
further
discussion,
the
teasing
out
of
where
their
difference
is
and
where
we
need
to
still
align
a
public
hearing
about
it,
to
get
the
public's
engagement
around
it
and
then
subcommittees
to
work
out
kind
of
a
reconciliation.
C
If
you
will,
after
that,
so
getting
us
to
talk
first,
getting
the
public
to
speak
to
it,
getting
it
to
a
public
hearing,
getting
more
input
and
then
going
back
to
the
subcommittees
for
reconciliation
to
then
be
brought
back
to
the
to
the
full
commission-
and
I-
and
I
really
do
want
to
thank
everyone
for
their
kind
of
timeliness
and
work.
We
are
getting
materials
backing
out
as
fast
as
we
can.
C
I
appreciate
that
we
did
get
our
memo
out
our
email
out
to
update
you
during
this
interim
period,
where
we
had
one
last
meeting
and
then
we
got
all
the
materials
back
in
so
that
folks
could
get
them
out.
On
friday.
I
really
appreciate
subcommittees
trying
to
kind
of
stick
to
our
deadlines
and
as
as
lawrence
outlined
them,
there
are
some
tight
deadlines
that
we're
going
to
have
to
meet
if
we're
going
to
continue
to
move
our
work
forward.
C
So
those
are
just
some
of
the
ways
that
I
think
I'm
trying
to
respond
to
mr's
thoughts
and
comments
tonight.
But
really,
let's
keep
pushing
forward,
see
where
we
are
in
our
first
public
hearing
and
then
look
at
reorganization.
But
let's
let's
stay
the
charge
at
this
point.
Let's
continue
to
do
that
not
saying
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
future,
but
let's
continue
to
move
forward.
C
No
problem,
thank
you
all
right.
Our
next
item
is
a
question
that
commissioner
fuentes
asked
us
to
bring
to
the
agenda,
which
was
the
discussion
of
the
charter
review.
Commission
bylaws.
I
I
wanted
to
just
respond.
I
don't
want
to
say
that
I
just
wanted
to
remind
the
folks
that
we
talked
about
the
city
attorney
brought
us
the
council
policy.
C
Zero
four
is
the
kind
of
default
bylaws
that
any
ad
hoc
committee
has
so
they're
set
up
in
that
way
for
ad
hoc
committees
is
which
was
one
of
the
things
that
we
are,
so
I
just
we've
thrown
that
into
the
work
plan.
If
you
want
to
refer
back
to
it
just
in
case
any
folks
are
looking
at
what
bylaws
do
we
operate
under,
if,
if
we
needed
to
look
at
a
bylaws,
that's
kind
of
the
default
position,
but
commissioner
frantis,
you
raised
this
issue
to
bring
to
the
agenda
so
I'll.
J
Thank
you
so.
J
The
reason
that
I
am
bringing
up
to
to
our
commission
to
consider
having
bylaws
is
that
I
think
we
need
to
have
better
rules
to
to
operate
from
and,
like
I
said,
I
think
the
the
bylaws
could
could
help
us
get
there
and
from
what
I
understand
in
talking
to
city
attorney
vani.
J
If
we
decide
to
to
have
bylaws
the
the
study,
clerk
and
city
attorney
would
prepare
those
for
us,
and
you
know
we
have
been
talking
about
inclusion,
transparency
equity,
all
of
these
things,
and
and
yet
these
may
be
our
values.
J
But
the
question
is:
how
do
we?
How
do
we
make
them
real
and
our
public
speakers
today?
All
of
them
were
talking
about
equity
and-
and
I
think
we
need
to
take
this
very
seriously
and-
and
I'm
just
going
to
give
you
some
examples-
number
one
for
some
reason.
You
know
we
have
been
put
into
a
category
that
we
have
subcommittees
and
they
are
not
made
public.
Our
committees
are
not
public.
J
I'm
part
of
the
governance
structure
subcommittee
and
by
the
way,
lawrence
the
person
who
replaced
you
did
an
excellent
job,
muriel
of
facilitating
our
process,
and
it
was
wonderful,
you
know,
being
there
with
a
small
group
of
five
or
six
people
to
discuss
the
questions,
because
it's
a
lot
easier.
Everybody
engaged
on
a
particular
topic.
J
However,
we
have
to
recognize
that
without
the
public
present,
we
are
meeting
in
a
close
room
and
we
are
not
being
transparent
and
we
are
not
being
inclusive,
and
that
is
fundamental
to
be
to
practicing
equity
and
that's
one
example,
another
example
and
that's
a
big
example
in
terms
of
of
what
we're
doing
with
our
committees
and
how,
in
fact,
as
we
have
over
the
meeting
tonight,
we
have
danced
around
the
brown
act.
Well,
we've
got
to
be
careful
with
the
brown
act,
because
how
we
do
this
and
all
of
this?
J
J
There's
you
know
I.
I
know
we
have
limited
amount
of
time,
but
what
I
wanted
to
ask
the
the
the
commission
is,
if
we
could
consider
looking
at
I
mean
we
can
look
at
at
what
you
said,
chair
ferreira,
that
we
already
have
a
a
set
of
rules
that
we're
following
as
an
ad
hoc
committee,
but
also
we
could
think
in
terms
of
the
template
for
for
the
for
the
for
the
bylaws
that
the
city
has,
and
so
I
want
to
suggest
that
that
we
consider
that
now.
J
J
As
far
as
what
I
see,
it's
not
just
a
two
we
can
go
beyond
and
even
though
we
are
already
in
the
month
of
june-
and
you
know
we
have
a
limited
amount
of
time-
we
think
I
really
do
think
it
would
be
worth
our
efforts
to
to
consider
bylaws
and
to
to
you
know,
I
mean
starting
with
our
values
in
the
bylaws,
why
we
exist
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
for
our
city.
So
we
make
it
very
clear.
J
I
I
don't
want
to
take
more
time,
but
I
I
really
wanted
to
to
see
if
other
members
of
the
commission
want
us
to
consider
this,
and
that
is
I'm
not
saying
that
we
will
have
bylaws
but
at
least
consider
the
question
and
maybe
work
a
small
group
of
us
work
with
the
city
attorney
and
the
city
clerk
to
see
how
we
could
prepare
a
draft
of
of
bylaws,
and
I
think
that
another
example
just
wanted
to
add.
With
all
due
respect,
chair
ferrer,
you
have
a
hard
job
to
you
know.
J
We
have
a
lot
to
accomplish
and
I
I
really
respect
and
value
your
leadership
and
your
responsibility,
but
yet,
at
the
same
time
I
sometimes
think
we
need
a
better
way
to
to
include
everybody's
thinking.
You
know,
there's
there's
that
balance
between
you're,
the
leader
and
you've
got
to
move
us
forward
and
you've
got
a
responsibility
and
then
there's
22
other
people
or
21
other
people
that
you
know
may
want
to
weigh
in
on
a
question
that
that
you
feel
you
need
to
to
resolve
yourself
and
and
lead
us
to
our
end
point
anyway.
J
Those
were
my
thoughts
I
wanted
to
share
and
see
if
what
other
other
commissioners
think
about
this
idea,.
D
Thank
you,
I'm
just
supportive.
I
think
commissioner
fuentes
raised
some
important
questions.
I
was
particularly
concerned
tonight
with
our
public
outreach
item.
I
think
our
two
speakers,
elena
and
matt
king,
showed
some
really
really
thoughtful
points
in
public
comment
and
they
shared
it
and
we
immediately
moved
on
to
our
next
topic.
This
has
happened
a
number
of
times
and
I
understand
it's
consistent
with
the
rules
and
yet
that's
why
we
have
the
ability
to
make
rules.
D
You
know
consistent
with
with
overriding
city
policy
and
and
law,
but
that
work
for
our
commission
to
be
able
to
achieve
its
task.
So
I
think
commissioner,
fuentes
situates
some
important
issues
and
if
bylaws
are
the
best
way
for
us
to
be
able
to
address
them,
then
I
would
be
supportive
of.
C
A
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
also
want
to
say
that
I
am
also
supportive
of
commissioner
fuentes
suggestions
of
creating
bylaws.
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful
for
us
moving
forward.
B
Perfect,
thank
you.
I
I'm
also
in
support
of
of
what
was
just
presented.
I
think
I
think
from
from
the
community
engagement
piece
it
does
allow
for
for
some
predictability
and
some
reassurances
about
how
we
operate.
So,
if
anything,
I
think
will
it
will.
It
will
provide
that
structure
and
that
transparency
piece.
B
C
C
C
J
Well,
I
I
could
make
a
motion,
but
I
I
raised
this
topic
for
discussion
and
I
mean
it's
important
to
know
that
there
are
other
commissioners
who
who
also
share
this
idea,
and
I
could
make
a
motion
and
I'll
I'll
just
make
an
attempt
here
and-
and
it's
simply
that
that
our
commission
will
explore
with
the
city
attorney
and
the
city
clerk
drafting
some
general
ideas
of
what
bylaws
could
include.
So,
in
other
words,
I
mean,
I
see
it
as
well
number
one.
J
I
see
that
our
endpoint
may
not
be
december.
We
might
continue,
but
I
also
see
that
this
could
be
done
pretty
quickly,
and
so
our
first
step
would
be
to
explore
it.
So
in
other
words,
by
the
time
we
meet
again,
we
have
put
more
thought
into
this
and
and
we've
explored
the
what
bylaws
might
look
like
with
the
city
attorney
and
and
the
city
clerk.
J
So
in
many
words
that's
that
would
be
the
motion.
Do
you
want
me
to
try
and
and
repeat
it
in
the.
A
C
The
motions
to
explore
with
the
city
clerk
and
the
city
attorney
the
drafting
of
bylaws
for
our
city
charter,
commission.
J
Probably
the
findings-
and
you
know
what
what
could
be
some
tenants
of
the
of
the
bylaws
so
that
it
would
be
our
exploration
point
and
then
from
there
we
decided.
We
want
to
go
forward
with
actually
putting
the
work
into
bylaws.
C
All
right,
okay,
is
there
a
second
to
that
motion.
E
D
No
I'll
I
suck.
F
I
would
be
sympathetic
to
the
idea
if
we
were
anywhere
near
the
beginning
as
far
as
reaching
our
deadline
we're
just
a
few
months
away,
and
some
of
us
are
concerned
about
being
able
to
get
the
work
done.
So
I
I
will
not
support
the
motion.
I
it's
not
a
bad
idea
to
try
to
come
up
with
with
separate
bylaws,
but
they'll
probably
have
financial
implications
anyway,
that
we
would
not
be
able
to
resolve
so
so
I
will
not
support
the
motion.
F
Yes,
I
won't
support
the
motion
either.
G
Yes,
I
speak
in
support
of
commissioner
fuentes's
motion.
I
think
even
we
can
get
some
clarity
into
our
operations
right
and
we
have
a
very
clear
guide,
post
and
guideline
as
to
how
we
move
forward
in
terms
of
processing
public
comment
in
terms
of
receiving
public
feedback
subcommittee
structure.
G
This
can
help
clarify
and
make
us
more
efficient.
Moving
forward.
I
mean
you
know
we
are
trying
to
be
adapting.
We
are
trying
to
be
adaptable
to
the
conditions
that
we
are
in,
but
having
some
kind
of
foundation
laid
out
for
how
we
continue
to
operate
can
be
helpful,
even
if
it's
for
the
next
four
months,
and
if
there
is
a
possibility,
we
extend
our
work
then
then,
for
beyond.
C
A
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
Yes,
I'll
also
be
supporting
the
motion
tonight,
echoing
a
lot
of
sentiments
that
my
commission
colleagues
have
said,
giving
us
a
little
bit
more
of
drive
for
our
for
our
commission
and
answering
giving
us
a
little
bit
more
direction
as
as
we
move
forward
in
the
process,
especially
around
community
outreach
public
outreach-
and
you
know
I
think,
in
terms
of
timeline
not
so
much
a
deal
breaker
for
me.
I
think
that
you
know
whatever
time
we
have
having
some
bylaws
could
be
beneficial
to
our
commission.
A
J
D
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
underscore
what
I
heard
from
commissioners,
tran
and
verus
that
we
are,
I
I
think
it
was
you
mr
chair
might
have
been
lawrence.
I
can't
remember
who
noted
towards
the
beginning
of
our
meeting
tonight
that
we're
entering
a
new
phase
of
the
commission's
work
we
are
going
to
be.
Hopefully
I
think,
we're
all
really
hoping
dramatically
increasing
our
public
engagement
and
really
digging
into
the
content
of
why
we're
all
here
and
so
so
doing.
D
I
did
want
to
see
whether
the
maker
of
the
motion,
the
seconder,
would
be
interested
in
accepting
a
friendly
amendment
that
specifically
would
request
the
city
attorney
and
the
clerk,
and
any
commissioner
who
would
be
working
with
them
on
on
exploring
bylaws
to
look
specifically
at
the
couple
of
issues
that
commissioner
fuentes
raised
in
her
opening
remarks
related
to
being
able
to
respond
to
public
comment.
D
You
know
within
the
confines
of
the
brown
act,
but
ensuring
that
that
we're
able
to
respond
and
also
that
we're
consistently
taking
public
comment
before
voting
and
then
second,
if
I
understood
commissioner
fuentes
correctly
proposing
how
we
can
ensure
that
we're
really
here
at
all
times
from
every
commissioner
who
wants
to
speak.
And
then
I
did
also
just
have
a
quick
request
to
the
chair.
But
but
first
I
wanted
to
see
if
there's
a
response
for
to
that
friendly
amendment.
D
C
All
right-
and
you
accept
that,
commissioner
bruce
you
have
your
hand
up
still
or.
D
Oh
sorry,
just
quickly
the
other,
the
other
question
I
I
had
or
requested
that
we
do
take
public
comment
before
the
vote
on
this
item.
C
Okay,
so,
commissioner
matsumura
I'm
I'm
okay,
doing
that,
I
think
the
challenge
is
always
going
to
be
that
it's
one
of
two
things
right.
If
the
public
doesn't
know
how
you're
going
to
vote,
then
they
can't
comment
on
it.
If
you
get,
if
you
want
their
input
first,
that's
fine,
but
then
you're
voting
after
and
then
they
have
no
ability
to
respond
to
the
vote
or
the
action
taken.
So
it's
it's!
It's
a!
C
I
think,
there's
a
there's,
a
two
different
ways
of
looking
at
it,
but
if
you're,
if
you're
looking
for
public
input
first,
we
can
do
that
and
if
the
looks
like
the
maker
of
the
motion's
asking
for
that
as
well,
I'm
happy
to
do
that
first
and
then
voting.
But
we
will
not
have
public
comment
after
the
vote.
Then
is
there
any
other
comments.
G
Hi,
where
beekman
here,
thank
you
for
raising
this
use
of
how
to
run
public
meetings.
I
think
you're
running
the
public
meetings
better
more
interestingly
than
in
the
first
months,
and
you
know,
learning
the
democratic
process
is
always
it
can
be
difficult,
but
yet
it
I
think
it
can
be
really
rewarding.
G
Once
we
start
understanding,
you
know
what
it,
what
is
simply
good
public
practices,
and
thank
you
for
considering
that
you
know
to
to
have
time
to
consider
the
words
of
people
like
matt
king
and,
have
you
know
open
debate
on
his
words.
That's
a
really
good,
important
subject
matter
to
to
consider
most
city
councils.
They
have
a
way
that
immediately
after
their
public
presentations,
they
immediately
go
to
public
comment
and
then
have
their
council
discussion
afterwards.
G
You
can
follow
those
models
and
examples,
and
it
shouldn't
be
too
difficult
to
to
work
on
and
good
luck
on
how
you
do
this
and
yeah
to
all.
Thank
you
for
for
caring
about
hearing
voices
from
the
public.
K
Thank
you
as
a
member
of
the
public.
I
feel
that
taking
public
comment
before
a
vote
makes
myself
feel
much
more
heard
and
a
part
of
the
conversation.
I
support
the
motion,
but
I
would
also
push
the
commissioners
to
consider
coming
back
with
a
draft.
There
are
many
resources
available
for
commissioners
to
work
for
the
bylaws,
and
you
can
also
direct
the
city
attorney
to
provide
these
resources
to
you.
K
Additionally,
practicing
an
equitable
process
through
creating
the
bylaws
is
what
equity
looks
like
and
it's
a
good
model
and
practicing
a
process
as
you're
going
into
this.
You
know
review
revising
our
city
charter,
also
on
robert's
rules
of
order
and
rosenberg's
rules
of
order.
They
are
not
bound
to
the
brown
act.
K
K
If
you
can't
get
people
to
this
meeting
and
in
the
same
way
that
you're
asking
ceos
to
outline
every
single
line
item
of
what
they're
spending
their
money
on,
I
would
really
like
to
see
a
line
item
of
what
you've
been
spending
your
time
on,
and
you
know
see
more
accountability
with
the
paid
consultant
to
provide
more
resources
to
the
public
and
to
the
commissioners
and
to
community
outreach
and
outreach
and
engagement.
Thank
you.
D
E
C
You
all
right,
let's
call
the
vote.
Megan
you'll
take
a
vote.
A
yes
vote
is
to
the
direction
of
the
city
clerk
and
the
city
attorney.
To
come
back
to
us
with
the,
I
will
say,
the
parameters
of
doing
the
bylaws,
with
the
consideration
that,
with
all
the
different
issues
that
have
been
laid
out
in
terms
of
what
what
the
purpose
of
bylaws
will
be
for
this
in
terms
of
increasing
equity,
inclusion
and
diversity,
practices.
A
All
right
I'll
call
the
roll
we'll
start
off
with
barbara
marshman.
G
C
C
J
C
J
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
C
C
And
mr
pence's,
anyone
else
awesome
vice
chair
johnson.
Thank
you
great.
All.
Right
next
item
is
the
public
comment
from
the
public
on
items
that
are
anyone
who
addresses
the
commission
on
something
that's
not
appearing
on
tonight's
agenda?
Is
there
any
speakers
who
wish
to
address
the.
G
Hi,
thank
you
blair,
beekman
here
thanks
for
the
meeting
tonight,
it's
been
a
good
experience
for
myself
learning
how
you're
working
and
I
think
I've
stressed
the
importance
of
open
democratic
practices
that
are
important
to
myself.
I
feel
in
the
second
half
of
this
decade
as
much
as
we're
talking
about
equity
and
reimagine
ideas.
G
I
think
in
the
second
half
of
this
decade,
open
democratic
practices
are,
is
going
to
be
a
really
important
concept
to
ourselves
and
we're
going
to
be
thinking
of
local
community
democracy,
not
only
as
a
idea
as
a
representational
as
a
representative
republic,
but
ideas
of
the
individual
within
the
community.
How
can
they
have
a
voice
and
I
think
we're
finding
ways
to
develop
that
voice
of
each
individual
having
their
place
and
able
to
speak
and
make
their
point
heard
and
felt
and
understood.
G
That's
interesting
and
that's
could
be
our
future
and
I
don't
think
it's
the
stronger
ideas
of
you
know,
working
with
developers
and
all
that
stuff
that
can
help
procure
what
what
is
possible
in
the
second
half
of
this
decade
and
the
future
of
ourselves,
and
I
think,
really
addresses
the
ideas
of
peace
and
sustainability
and
accountability
and
openness
and
all
the
good
stuff.
So
don't
forget
open
public
policy
and
good
democratic
practices
with
your
ideas
of
equity
and
reimagine.
G
At
this
time
and
robert
brownstein
bob
brownstein,
I
have
to
learn
to
say
his
name
better,
because
I
really
respect
all
everything
he
always
talks
about.
So
thanks
for
his
words
and
for
everybody's
words
tonight
and
good
luck.
How
we're
all
trying
to
understand
things
thanks.
K
I
really
appreciate
that
and
having
public
comics
heard
before,
and
I
would
also
just
encourage
again
that
the
commissioners
take
a
look
at
section
10
of
boards
and
commissions
and
how
they
are
run,
because
I
had
a
lot
of
opportunity
there
to
improve
the
process,
just
not
for
this
commission,
but
for
all
commissions
going
forward.
Thank
you.
G
I
think
I
think
I
did
not
lower
my
hand.
I'm
sorry.
A
No
problem
that
was
the
final
public
commenter.
C
Thank
you
so
much
thanks,
remember
the
public
for
joining
us
tonight.
I'm
going
to
adjourn
our
meeting
until
our
next
meeting
and
we'll
contact
those
commissioners
to
look
at
working
on
the
bylaws
in
between
our
meetings.
Good
luck
to
all
of
you
and
your
subcommittee
work.
We
appreciate
all
your
efforts
on
the
on
our
behalf
of
our
community
in
those
areas
and
we
will
wish
you
a
good
night.
We
are
adjourned.