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City of San José, California
Reimagining Public Safety Community Advisory Committee of December 1, 2021
Agenda https://sanjose.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=A&ID=908591&GUID=5C7EE660-0607-414B-89C9-CD30D5CE9252
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click
the
language
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen,
if
you're
in
english
or
spanish
speaker,
and
if
you
have
any
trouble
accessing
the
translation
services,,
please
call
laurie
valdés..
Our
number
is
on
the
screen..
It
is
four
eight
six
six
one
one,
eight
oh
four.
she'll
be
able
to
help
you.
translation,
but
I'd
also
like
to
pass
over
the
the
mic.
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A
I'd
like
to
do
a
land
acknowledgment,
we
respectfully
acknowledge
that
we
host
this
meeting
on
the
lands
of
the
work
melony
people
who
are
steward
of
this
land.
Through
these
generations.
We
commit
ourselves
to
partner
with
our
indigenous
sisters
and
brothers
to
celebrate
and
honor
their
legacy
and
our
collective
work
for
justice
and
our
care
for
these
lands.
We
benefit
from
today,
I'd
like
to
introduce
our
speaker..
Our
next
presenter
will
request
to
include
testimony
within
his
presentation
time..
A
E
E
E
Have
never
done
a
presentation
on
this
topic
so
focused
before
so.
Forgive
me
that
a
lot
of
the
information
and
the
kind
of
ideas
that
I
want
to
talk
about
are
relatively
new
for
me
to
share..
I
feel
like
this
is
a
safe
place
to
do
it..
I
think
we're
all
on
the
same
page
and
trying
to
have
the
same
goal.
E
E
Destination
home
website
and
liebe
website
at
the
bottom
of
the
slide
and
I'll
I'll
be
sending
these
slides
to
chris
afterwork
and
I'm
going
to
have
an
additional
slide.
That'll
be
a
lot
of
reference
links.
as
I
mentioned,
there's
such
incredible
information
and
a
body
of
work
around
the
research
of
the
impacts
of
criminal
justice
on
homeless
individuals.,
and
so
I
want
to
share
that
with
everybody..
So.
E
E
Stark
the
disproportionality
of
who's
homeless
in
santa
clara
county..
You
know,
it's
up
on
the
screen,
but
I
think
it's
worth
mentioning
that
the
general
population
in
santa
clara
county
is
two
and
a
half
percent
black
or
african-american,,
almost
17
percent
of
the
homeless
population.
That's
here
in
santa
clara
county,
where
we
have
perceptions
that
that
were
more
equitable,
etc.
and
just
continues
across
the
board..
And
so
if
we
think
that,
if
we
know.
E
That
seventy
five
percent,
at
least
probably
underreported,
right
self
reported
of
seventy
five
percent
of
individuals
have
criminal
history,.
Then
we
can
automatically
assume
that
that's
going
to
be
disproportionately
impacted
people
of
color
and
I
think
that's
the
main
point.
I
want
to
make
here.
so
there's
a
lot
of.
E
E
Professor
rankin,,
a
professor
as
an
attorney,
I
want
to
mention
later
you
know,
but
she
sums
it
up..
She
says:
criminalizing
homelessness
is
shown
to
be
the
least
effective
and
most
expensive
way
of
managing
homelessness..
Yet
we
continue
to
do
it..
We
do
more
and
more
of
it.
you
know,.
The
the
laws
that
are
in
place
to
criminalize
people
who
are
on
house
are
similar
to
jim
crow,
laws,,
vagrancy,
laws,
anti-smoking,
laws,,
ugly,
sundown,
town
laws..
You
hear
those
names
and
you're
like.
Oh,
those
are
old
and
we've
gotten
past
those.
E
We
haven't,
it's
just
taken
on
a
different
form
and
it
doesn't
have
a
fancy
name
that
we
that
we
have
in
history.
Books..
I
put
you
know,
some
basic
things
that
are
illegal
today
in
san
jose,,
california,
camping,
sitting,,
lying
down
in
a
certain
place,
is
loitering,
begging,
and
then
I
think
the
last
one
is
one
where
you
know,.
E
This
is
where
you
get
some
controversy
when
you
talk
about
it,
but
you
know,
trespassing,
but
it's
like
trespassing
on
public
lands,
for
example,
or
littering
by
nature
of
I
live
in
an
encampment
and
there's
garbage
around
me
addressing
basic
needs
in
public
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
in
solutions
later..
But
you
know,
people
have
to
go
to
the
bathroom
somewhere.
people
have
to
eat
et
cetera
and
drug
possession,
and
you
know,.
E
Another
study
that
we
did
and
it's
kind
of
a
theme
or
a
way
that
destination
home,
tries
to
set
a
baseline
for
addressing
issues
and
starting
to
build
strategies
to
kind
of
do.
Data
and
research
and
kind
of
really
look
at
information
as
a
as
a
catalyst..
So
in
twenty
fifteen
destination
home
and
in
a
bunch
of
partners
did
a
really
extensive
study
about
the
costs
of
homelessness
called
home,
not
found,
and
you
know,,
a
staggering
amount
of
money
is
spent
annually
on
homelessness
and
thirty.
E
E
Who's
working
with
our
lived
experience,
advisory
board,
which
is
an
organized
body
of
people
who
all
have
lived
experience.
I'm
one
of
the
founding
members
lived
experience
with
homelessness
or
housing
instability..
This
individual
is
not
speaking
today,
but
I
thought
this
was
just
like,
so
you
know,
sums
it
up
and
it's
such
a
common
experience,,
you
know,.
He
said
I
picked
up
thirty
five
arrests
and
twenty
nine
misdemeanors
in
about
three
to
four
year
span
of
being
on
house.,
and
so
that's.
E
E
D
D
Said,
I
was,
I
had
eventually
ended
up
living
at
an
encampment
with
I
thought
that
would
never
occur,
and
this
was
over
on
various
and
680,
and
I
was
in
a
domestic
violence
relationship
at
the
time..
I
got
no
support
from
the
police..
I
would
call
the
police,
because
I
would
need
help
because
I
was
being
assaulted..
The
police
did
not
want
to
come
out
to
the
encampment
to
help
they
at
one
point,
when
a
knife
was
even
bandaged
on
me,
they
asked
me
if
I
could
meet
them
at
a
taco
at
another
incident.
D
Boyfriend
at
the
time
just
attacked
me
and
he
was
making
me
go
with
him..
So
please
I
was
hoping
a
police
officer
would
pass
so
I
could
flag
him
down
to
get
help
and
I
was
able
to
flag
down
a
cop
and
he
pulled
over
the
first
thing.
I
noticed
about
this
police
officer
that
he
had
foresta
on
his
sleeve.
D
And
I
asked
him:
he
just
assaulted
me
and
attacked
me
and
now
he's
making
me
go
somewhere.
Can
you
help
me?
and
the
cop
said
to
me,?
Have
you
called
the
police??
I
said
I
just
called
the
police.,
I'm
calling
you.
This
is
what
I'm
doing.
and
he
told
me
he
was
on
another
call..
I
said
no,
you're
not.,
but
first
he
looked
at
me
and
I'll.
D
D
Remember
this
is
funny.,
it's
not
it's
not
really
funny.,
it's
really
sad
and
but
I
have
a
sense
of
humor.
With
my
colorful
life,
I
was
driving
on
a
suspended
license
and
I
was
getting
off
a
bériot
under
various
onto
the
freeway
and
I
got
pulled
over
for
driving
on
a
suspended
license.
and
when
this
is
a
highway
patrol,
mind
you,.
He
pulled
us
over
right.
D
D
D
D
E
D
D
E
C
C
C
Luckily,
it
wasn't
as
bad
as
being
in
a
tent
down
by
the
creek,
but
we
were
in
the
eye
of
the
officers
on
a
daily
basis,
and
that
was
the
difference
between
being
you
know,,
being
able
to
hide
and
not
seen
bite
down
by
the
creek,
and
we
were
always
in
a
public
parking
lot
somewhere
because
we
had
to
park
somewhere
and
there's
really
no
place
to
go..
They.
We.
C
C
C
C
any
time
we
saw
an
officer
if
somewhat
like
you
said,,
we
thought
that
they
were
there
to
help
us
and
to
protect
us
or
do
something
for
us,
and
it
was
always
the
opposite..
They
were
always
trying
to
either
take
our
motor
home
from
us,
arrest,
one
of
us,
for
whatever
reason
it
would
be,
and
there
was
never
anything
that
we
were
doing
other
than
being
homeless
..
We
had
a
situation
where,
in.
C
C
Park
and
ride,
which
we
thought
be
safer,
and
then
we
hear
these
loud
bursts
and
they
had
a
knife..
They
had,
they
had
punctured
our
tires
on
our
motor
home
and
that's
pretty
sharp
knife
to
just
to
be
the
punctured
tire
like
that..
So
I
got
up.
We
were
trying
to
jump
up
out
of
there
and
stuck
in
the
bed
and
ran
to
the
front
of
the
motor
home..
C
I
was
going
to
run
them
over,
but
we
could
get
started
so
we
didn't
run
them
over
and
then
we
realized
that
we
were
surrounded
by
gang
members,
and
so
we
called
the
police
and
told
them
what
was
going
on
and
they
said
they
would
be
out.
Finally,
the
gang
members
left.
they
never
showed
up,
because
I
have
never.
C
Within
the
hour
they
they
called
me
back
and
said,
ma'am,.
Are
you
ok??
Are
you
ok??
Do
you
still
need
assistance?
and
I
said
well,
I
could
be
dead
by
now,
but
I'm
fine,
thank
you,
but
no
thank
you
and-
and
it
was
very
scary
because
there
were
a
lot
of
them
and
they
had
knives
and
they
were
threatening
our
lives
and
I
figured
maybe,
if
I
would
have
said
I
was
a
single
female
by
myself.
They
might
have
came.,
but
I
highly
doubt
that
as
well.,
that's
just
one.
C
One
thing
out
of
many,
many
things
that
happened:
we
were
able
to
enter
our
motor
home
at
six
o'clock
in
the
morning
without
knocking
at
with
their
guns.
Drawn..
That
happened
to
us
more
than
once
saying
what
are
you
doing
in
here?
oh,,
it's
six
clock
in
the
morning..
What
do
you
think
we're
doing?
we're
sleeping.?
Why
are
you
walking
into
my
home
motor
home?
well,?
C
E
C
C
Difficult.
we
did,
we
did
have
good.
We
did
have
some
good
experiences
as
well.,
I
have
to
say
we
did
have
an
officer
that
he
hated
us
and
it
came
to
a
point
where
he
had
ended
up
having
a
heart
attack
and-
and
he
realized
that
he
almost
died
and
he
realized
that
the
what
he
had
turned
into
the
type
of
person
they
turned
into
and
he
came
to
us
he
he
apologized
to
us
for
everything
that
he'd
ever
done
and
because
he
arrested
me,
I
had
I
was
never.
C
C
They
helped
us
get
into
into
the
ai,
so
we
could
get
our
housing.
the
thing
the
problem
is
is
when
you're
out
there,
you
don't
know
where
to
go,
to
contact
a
person
that
could
help
you
get
your
housing.,
and
so
they
came
to
us,
which
was
one
of
the
best
days
of
our
lives,
and
that
was
due
to
the
police
department..
E
E
C
You
know,
it's
hard
to
say
because
you
know,,
I
think
that
they
get
jaded
when
being
on
the
streets
and
stuff
and
and
they,
but
where
you're,
not
a
criminal.
Because
you're
you
don't
have
home,
you
don't
have
a
home
and
they
don't
realize
how
hard
it
is
to
not
have
a
home.
it's.
I
would
never
wish
that
on
my
worst
enemy.
It
is
very
difficult..
You
have
no
place
to
sit..
There's
that's
it..
You
know
they
should
be
more
compassionate
rather
than
thinking.
We
are
the
the
enemy..
C
The
only
time
I
ever
broke
the
law
really
was
because
I
was
hungry
not
because
I'm
a
criminal
is
because
I
had
no
choice
and
and
I
they
need
to
understand
that
that's
where
people
are
coming
from.
and
if,
if
they
could
put
themselves
in
our
shoes
for
a
day,
they
would
hate
it..
Anybody
would
hate
it.,
there's
nowhere
to
go
when
there's
nowhere
to
go,
and
maybe.
C
Think
that
maybe
some
type
of
training
is
how
to
deal
with
us.
we're
human
beings.,
that's
it.,
it
should
be
in
a.
We
should
know
it
already.,
not
everybody
is
a
drug
addict..
Not
everybody
is
a
criminal
and
people
that
are
drug
addicts
is
understandably
so
because
it's
really
hard
out
there
and
maybe.
C
With
homelessness
and
if
you're
not
mentally,
when
you
start
being
homeless,
you
may
be
by
the
time
you're
done
being
homeless,.
You
know,,
so
I
think
it's
more
of
some
type
of
a
training
program
that
they
should
be
able
to
have,
and
it
should
be
a
program
that
everybody
should
have
across
the
board,,
including
the
guys
at
the
officers,
because
they're
just
as
bad
dispatchers.
That.
E
So
if
you
don't
mind,
staying
and
we'll
see
what
people
want
to
know.,
but
let
me
I
pulled
down
the
screen
because
I
want
to
see
your
faces,
so
I
pull
the
screen
back
up
for
the
last
slide,
which
is
around
solutions.
right..
That's.
What
we're
here
to
do
is
to
figure
out
how
we
can
do
something
different.
So
there
are.
E
E
Homeless,,
a
long,
long
time
homeless,
like
high
users
of
system
services,
costs
an
average.
That's
from
the
same
study.
put
that
in
the
in
the
in
the
references
cost
an
average
of
around
eighty
five
thousand
dollars
a
year
per
individual
to
house.
Someone
is
between
twenty
to
thirty
thousand
dollars
a
year..
It's
just
a
clear,
no
brainer
cost
savings
of
forty
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
per
person.
To
somebody
I
think,
along
the.
E
Lines
of
we
talked
about
but
really
kind
of,
thinking
about
how
we
could
do
something.
Different.,
let's
convert
first
responders
to
situations
that
are
out
there
happening
front
house,
individuals
in
encampments
or
shelters,
et
cetera
on
the
streets
to
outreach,
workers,
trained
outreach,
workers,
peer
outreach,
workers,,
medical
and
mental
health
professionals..
We
have
some
amazing
outreach
teams
in
santa
clara
county.,
the
valley,
homeless.
Health
care
project
is
an
incredible
group,
cross
discipline,
kind
of
medical
focus
group
that
has
a
lot
of
respect
from
the
health
community
and
can
address
mental
health.
E
E
And
ordinances
that
criminalize
individuals
who
are
on
house
just
for
being
on
house.,
you
know,,
I
listed
earlier
there
are.
There
are
definitely
communities
across
the
country
that
that
have
more
criminalized
laws,
but
there's
plenty
here
in
san
jose
and
in
santa
clara
county
to
work
with,
and
there
are
some
law
firms
that
we
have
connections
with
that
specialize..
E
E
E
Housed
and
get
a
job
or
do
whatever
people
want
to
do,
and
so
that's
a
huge
one
that
I
think
that
we
really
can
fundamentally
bring
our
systems
together
with
the
court
system,
with
the
jail
system.
Here
we
have
the
ability
to
bring
the
right
people
to
the
table
and
think
about
that
differently,
meet
basic
needs,
right..
How
many
of
the
experiences
that
we
heard
about
or
have
talked
about
are
just
based
on
like
getting
food,
using
the
bathroom,
taking
a
shower,
getting
out
of
the
elements?
E
E
People
who
are
under
house-
and
then
you
know,
this
was
touched
on
a
lot.
but
like
every
interaction
with
law
enforcement,,
whether
it's
an
officer
out
in
the
field
or
it's
in
the
court
system
or
it's
in
the
probation,
is
an
opportunity
to
connect
to
services
and
housing
and
to
say
hey,
like
what's
your
situation??
Are
you
still
in
house?
like?
Let's
do
something
about
that.?
Let's
not
just
keep
saying
oh
well.
We
have
the
criminal
justice
system
over
here..
E
E
E
What
I
want
to
share
today.
happy
to
answer
questions,
but
again
this
is
just
scratching
surface
and
a
preview
and
hopefully
to
get
us
excited
about
what
we
might
be
able
to
do
in
steering
committee
and
really
kind
of
solutions
that
we
might
be
able
to
try
things
differently..
So
thank
you
and
thank
you
again
for
marceline
and
jackie
for
joining
me.
A
Marcelina
jacqueline
and
chad.,
I
really
appreciate
everyone
giving
their
time
and
energy
for
these
presentations..
I
think
it
was.
It
was
great.,
I'm
very,,
very
insightful..
I
would
like
to
open
the
floor
to
public
comment
or
comment
in
general,
and
then
we
can
ask
the
speakers
questions..
There
are
some
guide
questions
on
the
screen
here..
How
do
we
feel
the
information
we've
heard
can
directly
tied
to
our
work?
What
policy
recommendations
did
you
hear
or
you
think
will
be
meaningful
in
the
community
community
we're
focusing
on
today
and
how
does
everything
we've
learned
today?
Define.
F
Those
who
lived
experience
are
really
insightful
and
figuring
out.
The
solutions
need
to
be
something
that
really
caught.
My
ear
was
when
you
mentioned
that
what
we
need
is
not
police
coming
to
criminalize
you,
but
you
need
services
brought
to
you,
because
so
often
it's
difficult
to
access
to
services
or
even
know
what
their
services
are,
and
that
brought
to
mind
a
program
that
I
researched
in
olympia,
washington..
So
in
olympia,
washington,
the
police
department
got
funding
to
create
a
peer
outreach
programs.
F
F
Outreach
workers
to
these
individuals
who
were
on
house
at
first,
it
was
with
the
police,
but
then,
after
the
first
meeting,
it's
independent
and
so
the
peer
outreach
workers
meet
those
persons
in
the
field
independently,
and
that
was
really
beneficial
in
connecting
and
linking
to.
Resources
was
great
as
a
way
to
help
them
meet
their
needs
in
a
way
that
doesn't
involve
law
enforcement,,
it
doesn't
criminalize
them..
So
I
think.
F
That
is
something
that
I
heard
from
this
and
I'm
on
the
alternatives
to
public
safety
subcommittee.
In
my
mind,
I'm
talking
about
an
alternative
program,
and
so
when
I
heard
what
I
was
the
needs,
the
main
need
is
that
you
have
basic
needs
to
be
met,
and
it
would
be
better
if
those
services
are
brought
to
you,
because
it's
very
difficult
for
you
to
access
it.,
and
so
I
think,
peer
outreach
program
like
the
one
in
olympia,.
Washington
is
definitely
something
you
can
consider
as
a
solution..
Thank
you
again
for
your
presentation
to
jamal..
G
G
G
Not
thinking
of
them
as
just
residents
in
this
area,
but
the
nuisances-
and
I
don't
know
what
training
or
reform
changes
that
some
had
a
little
bit
of
a
loss
for
how
to
how
to
shift
that
that
I
know,
there's
bias
training.,
there's
a
lot
of
things.,
but
you
know,
thinking
about
what
to
rob
just
said,,
I'm
at
a
loss.
I'd
love
to
hear
some
some
other
thoughts
there,
.
sandra
andrassy,,
hi.,
good.
H
H
H
H
H
This
committee,
because
I
am
not
as
interested
in
the
reform
aspects
of
it
and
more
interested
in
the-
how
do
we
eliminate
unnecessary
excessive
interactions
between
the
police
and
the
community
that
ultimately
lead
to
increased
criminalization.
and
what
chad
said
in
one
of
his
comments
was
that,
like
housing,
great
housing,,
helping
people
to
get
out
of
the
constant,
I
of
the
police
is
a
really
important
solution
toward
this.
and
just
how
much
more
cost
effective.
It
is
to
house
people
than
to
to.
H
H
The
presentations
we've
heard,
or
maybe
even
in
all
the
presentations
we've
heard
this.
This
idea
that
you
can't
trust
people
who
you
should
be
able
to
go
to
for
help
and
in
fact,
if
you
do
call
them
for
help
the
police
for
help.
You
in
fact
run
the
risk
of
being
arrested
yourself
and
that's
just
a
really
terrible,
healthy
power
dynamic
that
the
police
have
between
vulnerable
members
of
our
community,
such
as
our
house,
population
and
other
populations
that
we
heard
from
in
presentations.
H
Where
you
have
that
me,
you
have
no
other
option
but
to
call
the
police
for
safety,
and
in
that
you
may
not
ever
hear
from
them,
and
you
may
hear
from
them,
but
you
actually
are
are
also
running
the
risk
of
being
incarcerated
or
arrested
or
cited..
And
so
what
kind
of
protection
do
you
have
from
that??
And
I
don't
know
how
you
reform
that?
H
C
C
C
The
process
of
court
and
so
on.
and
that's
the
reason,
a
big
reason
why
a
lot
of
homeless
people
continuously
go
back
get
arrested
is
because
they
never
want
to
go
back.
you
know,,
they
don't
have
the
means
to
go
back
to
court..
They
don't
want
to
they
don't
like
the
way
they
look..
They
don't
you
know,,
they
never
follow
through.,
and
so
these
warrants
these
these
charges
and
becoming
warrants
warrants
for
their
arrest.
and
so,.
You
know,
you're,
you're,
always
thinking
any
time.
C
You
have
any
contact,
you're
going
to
be
arrested
for
sure
and
likely
they're
going
to
search
you're
going
to
do
certain
things
and
they
may
find
something
that
they
don't
feel
is
is
correct
for
you
to
have,
and
then
you
brings
you
additional
charges..
So
it's
just
a
vicious
cycle
of
adding
onto
something
that
was
extremely
and
more
or
less
a
lot
of
times
a
necessity.
When.
C
Against
the
law-
and
I
understand
that.,
but
the
process
for
after
that
is,
is
lengthy
and
most
people
will
not
go
back
to
court
just
to
because
they
they
don't
even
have
the
means
to
get
there
or
they're
scared.
They
don't
have
anybody
to
advise
them
as
to
how
to
act.
Behave.
You
know,
things
like
that
and
that's
what
keeps
them
going
back
and
forth
to
jail
as
well.,
and
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up.
J
And
I
want
to
tell
of
the
two
ladies
to
testify,
to
thank
you
for
being
brave
enough
to
share
your
lived
experiences,
because
it
is
important
as
impacted
members
of
the
community
myself
as
well,
because
my
partner
was
killed
by
police..
It's
it's
scary
and
I
know
that
being
a
voice
for
the
rest
of
the.
J
J
J
J
Shift,
you
know,
and
make
these
officers
have
trauma.
Training,
have
them
empathy,
none
of
them
have
they
always
think
they're
above
the
law
and
that's
where
they
see
they
perpetrate
everybody's,
a
perpetrator,
the
perpetrators,
really
because
they
see
everybody
as
a
criminal..
They
see
everybody
as
doing
something
wrong
when
they
start
shifting
that
perception
of
looking
at
people
somebody
homeless.
Do
you
know
why
they're
homeless??
Do
they
even
to
know
the
commit
you
know,?
J
J
Criminalize
arrest
and
do
this
that
it's
wrong
because
they
don't
see
our
community
that
are
homeless..
They
don't
see
others
that
are
different
than
them
as
human..
They
see
them
as
criminals
and
when
they
can
shift
that
that
mindset
and
see
it
like.
How
would
you
want
if
that
was
your
family
member,?
J
One
of
your
family
members
ended
up
homeless
for
whatever
reason.?
How
would
you
want
them
to
be
treated
like
an
animal
like?
They
were
worthless?
no,,
you
wouldn't.,
so
you
treat
others
as
you
would
want
to
be
treated
yourself,
and
they
can't
seem
to
get
that
because
they're
not
trained
well,
enough.
they're
not
trained
six
months,
and
most
of
it
is
to
kill
us.
ok,,
so
they
need
better
training..
J
J
Direction.
these
officers,
don't
know
how
to
take
responsible..
No
one
is.
They
have
to
learn
to
take
responsible,
sit
across
the
table
from
the
people,
you've
impacted
and
hear
how
it's
impacted
their
lives
when
they
can
see
what
they've
done
and
how
they've
caused
trauma
to
people..
They
don't
hear
it
often
enough
and
when
they
realize
that
these
are
human
beings
and
they
left
families
traumatized,,
maybe
then
they
will
shift
their
mindset.,
but
right
now
it's
their
mindset.
J
What
they're
trained
to
do
is
what
is
hurting
our
community.
they're
trained
to
kill.
Now
we
take
away
their
guns.
if
we
take
away
their
guns,.
These
officers
are
going
to
have
to
learn
communication
to
fight
with
your
hands
like
back
in
the
days.
If
you
were
going
to
get
in
a
fight
at
school,
guys
fought
with
their
hands..
Why
aren't
these
cops
learning?
How
to
fight
with
their
hands?
take
a
boxing
or
whatever,
get
better
training,,
not
use
weapons..
That's
like
a
real
man
fights
with
his
hands,
right?.
J
That's
what
we
were
all
taught.,
you
fight
with
your
hands,,
not
with
weapons.,
and
so,
if
these
guys
want
to
be
having
weapons
officers,,
they
should
go
out
to
the
wars,,
go
out
there
and
fight
the
wars.
they're
out
here
on
our
streets.
Looking
like
they're
at
war
with
us,
and
that's
not
right,
and
it's
has
to
stop
that..
I
mean,
you
know,,
like
better
training
like.
J
Anthony,
I
you
have
been
trying
to
reach
you,
but
you
know,,
like
let's
talk
like
talk
with
the
impacted
community.,
don't
be
afraid
to
talk
to
us
and
see
that
it's
not
that
your
your
being
told,
but
this
thing
that
needs
to
be
changed
and
we
really
want
change..
It
starts
with
the
communication
with
those
most
impacted
and
don't
let
the
city
manager
or
the
city
attorney
talk,
or
you
can't
talk
to
those
people..
Why
not??
J
J
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
H
H
Do
you
think
about
crimes
are
what
we
determine
as
a
society
to
be
a
crime
at
various
states
of
the
evolution
society
changes
is
kind
of
a
changing
goalposts..
We
certainly
see
that
with
marijuana
and
that
with
other
things,
we
could
make
a
decision
that
some
of
these
things
aren't
worth
criminalizing
or
should
not
be
criminalized,
because
we're
just
good
people
who
I
don't
know
who
should
not
criminalizing
people
for
being
housed
or
needing
to
feed
and
keep
a
roof
over
their
heads..
H
H
I'm
thinking
about
jacqueline's
story
about
just
being
hungry
and
trying
to
secure
food
know
we
could
determine
as
a
city
that
people
would
be
hungry
and
determined
that,
if
you're
in
housed
and
you
need
food
that
you're
unable
to
get
it-
and
that
is
the
situation,
there's
an
alternative
for
that.,
and
so
what
I
this
is
outside
of
my
house.
When
I
have
knowledge
about
that.
I
don't
know
what.
H
L
New
number,
probably
fifty
percent-
of
the
calls
that
are
going
to
go
to
those
mobile
response
teams
are
going
to
be
related
to
homeless
issues,
and
I
do
think
uplift.
Families
services
has
the
contract
to
provide
those
services
in
san
jose
they're
subcontracting,
somehow
with
home
first..
I
think
the
training
really
needs
to
occur
is
those
new
teams.
We.
L
L
L
Our
young
people
and
young
adults
end
up
homeless
because
of
their
criminal
record..
They
can't
get
jobs.,
they
can't
associate
with
certain
people
so
that
can't
be
in
their
neighborhoods,
so
they
end
up
coming
homeless..
So
it
does
end
up
being
the
cycle
back
and
forth
with
justice,
involvement
and
homelessness.,
and
I
do
think
we
need
a
deeper
dove
on
that
relationship
between
the
criminal
justice
system,
police.
L
L
L
A
A
F
F
G
A
L
B
So
at
the
very
you
remember
several
minutes
ago,
it
was
as
a
slate,
so
I
agree
with
in
that
powerpoint
slide
and
then
we
voted.
I
believe
it
is
to
the
correct
process
just
for
transparency.
So
we
know
who
serves
on
the
committee,
and
you
know,
there's
a
record
that
people
agree
and
other
people
are
certainly
ok.
Just.
A
F
A
H
L
B
B
The
schedule
is
being
modified.,
of
course,
quite
a
few
people
take
early
thanksgiving,
so
us
within
meet
for
thanksgiving
and,
of
course,
we'll
be
modifying
again
at
the
end
of
the
year
to
make
room
for
the
holidays
of
the
year..
The
whole
schedule
is
in
those
emails
I
send
out
on
monday
and
also
set
up
calendar
invites,
and
so
I
hope
that
you're
able
to
see
those
put
them
in
your
calendar.
B
B
I
I
I
J
Was
wondering
she's,
mathabane
here
and
all
like
what?
What
has
he
gotten
from
the
testimonies
that
he's
heard
and
what
are
like?
What
are
some
of
the
things
that
you
got
from
it?
like
what
things
are
the
stuff
that
you're
going
to
go
back
and
look
on
with
your
police
department?
From
what
you
heard
from
people
who
presented
today
what
rosa
said,?
How
are
you.
J
M
M
M
Respond
to
homelessness
or
homelessness
calls
and
sparky
had
mentioned
about
that.
First
program.,
I'm
interested
that
out
how
that
will
be
how
the
county
can
respond
to
those
calls
are
not
involving
the
law
enforcement..
I
also
heard
empathy
that
officers
need
to
be
more
empathetic
to
situations
and
to
individuals
here
in
our
community
and
then
finally,
training
right.,
how
that
looks
like..
So
those
are
the
three
obviously
there's
more
than
taking
notes.,
but.
J
M
J
J
J
Maybe
its
officers
are
realizing
how
it
impacts
innocent
children.,
they'll,
learn
to
think
of
people
as
humans
and
that
that
person
might
be
a
father
and
son
or
you
know,
step.
So
they
can
change
that
perception
that
everybody's
a
threat
and
see
everybody
as
human,
because
the
trauma
there's
so
many
kids
in
our
community
that
are
left
fatherless
and
who
will
never
look
at
officers
as
people
who
will
protect
them.,
but
the
monsters
in
their
dreams
took
their
fathers
and
mothers
or
whatever..
You
know
what
I'm
saying?
it's
it's.
I
think
two.
J
J
There's
going
to
be,
you
know,
a
reaction.,
there's
going
to
be
trauma.,
there's
going
to
be
other
stuff
that
happened..
So
how
do
you
guys
prevent
trauma
from
happening
and
repeating
that
cycle
of
violence
towards
the
community
and
start
taking
a
different
perspective
from
the
trauma,
but
also
to
hear
the
trauma,,
the
trauma??
J
So
I
would
love
to
go
and
share
about
josiah
and
the
families
that
I
work
with,
because
this
year
we
have
eighty
three
children
that
I'm
having
a
christmas
program
for
who've
been
left,
fatherless
and
holidays
are
hard
for
the
families
and
that's
why
I
do
this
for
them..
So
there's
a
three
children
that
our
community
needs
to
be
aware
of
throughout
you
know
like
so
I
would
love
to
I'm
like.
I
tried
to
call
the
number
that
you
gave
says
it's
disconnected,
so
I
don't
know
how.
F
F
Sparky
mentioned
as
a
county
level
program
so
run
by
the
beach
d
and
the
agency
that
a
contract
to
run
it
at
the
county
level,
and
this
this
committee
is
at
the
city
level,
san
jose
city,
and
so
we
cannot
make
recommendations
on
the
side
of
trust.
Trust
to
do
something.
But
we
can
do
and
say
that
we
could.
We
can
make
recommendations
on
how
the
police
links
people
they.
F
F
M
M
M
J
F
Comment
chief
model,
I
can
I
have
the
point
of
contact
with
the
behavioral
health
services
department,,
the
program
manager
who
is
in
charge
of
trust,
and
so
I
can
provide
you
with
their
contact
and
I
think
the
alternatives
subcommittee
was
very
interested
in
actually
having
both
a
representative
from
the
sjp
and
a
representative
from
from
the
trust
program
to
come
and
speak..
I
kind
of
have
a
listening
session
that
allows
everybody
to
kind
of
understand.