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City of San José, California
Reimagining Public Safety Community Advisory Committee of September 1, 2021
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Yeah.
you
know
katie,
I
called
let's
see
an
ad
in
the
city
that
interpret
that's
one
in
espanol
up
the
print
media.
Both
a
black
hole.
e,
a
local
mls
said,
look
look
at
them,
as
I
said,
prns
misinterpreted.,
nobody
on
this
panel
to
tell
you
this.
I
see
that
you
knows
dungeon
boss,
better,
come
in
a
chat,
chris.
all
right.
welcome.
B
B
C
C
C
they're
dark..
It
goes
along
with
your
rites
of
passage..
You
need
to
understand
who
you
are.,
yes.,
you're,
beautiful,,
you're,
lovable,,
you're,
capable,,
you're,
god's
child.,
all
those
good
things.
and
you're
brown..
I
really
didn't
have
a
conversation
until
an
incident
happened
with
my
oldest
son
when
he
was
walking
down
the
street
and
the
police
profiled.
C
C
Is,
you
know,
just
kind
of
give
in
to
whatever
they're
trying
to
tell
you
to
do..
If
they
say
stand
up,
you
stand
reaching
in
your
pocket..
You
don't
ever
do
that.
make
sure
that
you
are
not
driving
in
a
car
with
people
who
are
not
licensed
or
don't
have
insurance..
If
you're
in
your
car,
don't
reach
for
the
glove
box,
and
actually
I
don't
want
you
driving
in
a
car
with
anybody..
Can
you
please
take
the
bus??
Don't
ever
talk
back
even
if
you're
right.,
you
know
you
can
be
dead,
right?.
C
C
You
can
let
loose
you
fancy
free
public.!
You
have
to
at
times
be
someone
that
you're
not..
This
may
not
be
the
best
analogy,
but
as
it's
like,
you
teach
children
how
to
behave
around
dogs.
and
I'm
not
saying
police
are
like
dogs.,
I'm
saying
sudden
movement
around
a
german
shepherd
can
get
you
bit..
You
can
hold
out
your
hand
and
let
them
sniff
you.
you.
Let
them
check
you
out.
First,
you
make
sure
that
you
know
if
you
come
into
contact
with
police,
that
you
don't
talk
back,
that
you,
you
call
me..
B
Wanted
to
grow
this
because
I
like
to
say
it's
important
that
these
conversations
really
grow
older
and
lived
experience
and
I'll
just
shared
this
very
briefly..
We
have
a
very
full
agenda.
Tonight.
you
know,.
I
received
the
talk
as
a
kid
as
early
as
kindergarten,.
First
grade.,
I
remember
getting
very
detailed
instructions
around.
B
B
B
Colors
that
they're
living
in
right,
now.
and
the
status
quo
is
just
not
enough.,
and
so
this
was
to
continue
to
call
us
forward
in
our
conversation,,
in
our
imagination
and
in
our
thinking
about
what
community
safety
means
for
all
of
us
and
not
just
for
a
few.
What's
worked
so
far,
and
that's
thank
you.
patrick
thank
you,.
A
D
D
We
want
everyone
to
be
able
to
understand.,
also
emphasize
the
role
of
the
police.
right..
So
this
is
what
is
happening
and
how
do
you
understand
it
or
interpret
it?
and
then
for
us
to
have
understanding
of
our
needs
and
everyone
else
to
understand
the
needs
of
the
community
safety
and
justice
and
also
explore
those
alternatives
and
expand,
as
was.
D
B
This
is
what
we're
thinking
about.
so
rely
on
the
least
for
protection.,
that's
fine
or
harm
to
personal
safety
and
property..
We
also
rely
on
the
police
for
a
mental
illness
cause
and
disturbance
is
caused
by
individuals
who
may
be
suffering
from
different
mental
mental
illness
or
illnesses..
We
were.
We
rely
on
that
for
domestic
violence.,
the
police.
B
B
B
D
D
You
know,,
we
wonder
how
do
we
get
this
information?
all
right.,
so
we
have
surveys..
The
city
has
an
audit.
they've
done
interviews,
community
engagement
sessions,
among
other
things,
for
feedback,
and
these
strategies
have
history..
These
are
things
that
have
been
done
in
san
jose's
since
1890,
and
then
this
happened,
again.
you
know,
a
whole
re
auditing
and
community
and
learning,
and
what
what's
the
feedback
in
the
96
and
the
1990s
the
most
recently
in
2014.
and
the
same
thing
is
happening
now.
so,
and
it's
really
points
out,
it's
not
enough.
D
Just
to
get
community
feedback..
We
really
need
to
listen,
but
also
be
receptive
to
hearing
uncomfortable
information
and
working
for
the
community
to
implement
changes
recommended
by
the
most
effective
community
members..
So
this
presents
session,
as
I
mentioned,
information
from
an
annual
report
on
city
services..
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D
the
community
service
officers,
respond
to
non
at
risk,
missing
person,
traffic,
hazards,
traffic,
control,,
vehicle
accidents
and
proper
property
damage..
So,
in
comparison
to
the
sworn
officers,
they
overwhelmingly
respond
to
the
lower
risk
incidents.,
and
so
it
really
points
this
question
about,
you
know,
what
is
really
happening.?
D
As
well
as
clearance
rates.,
so
of
the
total
cases
assigned
in
this
time,
major
violent
crime
to
have
changed
slightly
saying
at
approximately
thirty
five
percent
for
the
last
three
years.,
and
so
this
begs
the
question:
why
is
this
information
recorded
in
the
first
place??
So
what?
What
are
we
using
this
information
to
change?
right.
and
what
has
changed,
if
anything,
is
this?.
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
E
yeah,,
I
think,
looking
at
the
charts
in
the
data
looking
especially
at
the
under
youth
services,
we
we
kind
of-
I
mean
it
kind
of
begs
the
question
of:
why
do
we
need
so
many
cops
to
to
be
sent
to
parking
violations
and-
and
this
bigger
question
of
you-
know,,
especially
reflected
in
slide
15.
right.,
if
the
if
the
major
violent
crimes
percentage
has
stayed
the
same
over
the
past
three
years.,
why
is
it
necessary
to
increase
the
police
budget?
and
where
is
this
distribution
or
allocation
of
resources
going
to??
E
right.
and
the
new
recruits
from
the
centers,
a
police
department.
and
how
you
know,.
Sometimes
they
would
want
to
just
go
check
out
and
see
what's
going,
on.
right.
and
that's
where
they
would
be
called
to.,
and
so
it's
a
it
really
begs
the
question
of
like.
Why
are
there
so
many
non
cso
members
being
sent
to
suspicious
vehicles
and
what
the
the
implicit
biases
behind.
E
E
and
then
to
think
about
the
last
line
of
sight,
16
and
the
public
perception
of
police
services
being,,
you
know,
just
a
little
bit
under
it
or
a
little
bit
over
a
third
and
then
to
jump
back
to
slide
13
and
to
see
how
how
many,
how
much
police
resources
are,
how
many
police
resources
are
being
put
towards
these
meta
community
events..
It
almost
begs
us
that
begs
the
question
of.
Why
is
it
that
it's
seemingly
feels
like
they're
trying
to
reshape
or
refashioned
the
narrative
of
what
police
officers
do.
E
F
F
I
would
report
out
kind
of
the
two
perspectives..
My
clearly
is
more
sharp
turn
to
the
left.,
but
I
think
you
guys
can
step
in
here.,
but
what
they
were
saying
is
they,
like
the
community
service
officers,
that
they
should
be
more
of
them
doing,
work
in
the
community
and
not
doing
policing.,
and
I
kind.
F
G
Point
that
the
community
service
officers
are
much
less
expensive
and
I
think
much
less,
threatening
to
the
community.
they're,
not
armed
and
can
be
a
little
more
inviting
sometimes
and
certain
non
emergency,
situations.
right..
And
so
since
they're
cheaper.
You
wouldn't
need
to
hire
more
police
officers
per
say.
You
could
stretch
your
budget
further
and
still
respond
to
what's
a
serious
crime
like
burglary
or
car
theft,
the
person
it's
happened,
to.
all
right.,
but
it's
not
an
emergency
and.
and.
C
D
D
D
D
H
H
H
H
H
Less
my
I
lost
the
other
point
that
we
were
talking
about:
oh,,
better
education
and
a
longer
police
academy,,
maybe
a
one
or
two
year,
police
academy
and
a
four
year
degree
in
order
to
have
more
of
that
cultural
shift
that
they're
not
just
focused
on
military
style
of
training.,
and
if
anyone
wants
to
chime
in
from
the
group
with
anything,.
I
must
I
welcome
it.
C
Well,
we
both
while
there
was
three
of
us
in
the
group
and
we've
all
been
impacted
by
police
and
in
some
way
or
another.
So
a
lot
of
the
data
that
you
showed
in
the
roles
they
played
is
not
something
we
didn't
already
know.
we
talked
about.
There
should
be
more
resources
and
getting
to
the
root
of
the
problem.
Instead
of
criminalizing
individuals
that
have
no
other
places
to
live,
in.
and
you
know,
in
poverty
and
what
not
homelessness
there
should
be
more
resources
for
them.
young.
You
know,
young.
C
I
Human
consequence,
when
we
have
police
out
here
doing
things,
they
don't
need
to
do
when
we
have
more
police
out
on
the
streets
when
we
could
have
their
other
interventions
or
alternatives
or
just
other
ways
of
dealing
with
harm
that
there's
trauma.
That's
happening
within
families
for
children,
it's
generational.,
and
so
it's
there's
an
urgency
around
fixing
this
problem
and
reducing
that
opportunity.
I
I
Talks
about
the
cycle
of
reform
over
the
years.
police
reform
has
proven
to
be
not
a
very
effective
way
to
address
the
issues
of
policing.,
also
not
a
very
effective
way
to
address
harm
in
our
community
and
not
a
very
effective
way
to
reduce
crime..
This
slide
talks
about
the
cycle
of
reform,
where
you
have
an
incident
that
happens,
a
tragedy,,
something
that
sparks
that
sparks
public
outrage..
There
is
this
public
outcry
that
demand
the
urgency
around
wanting
to
do
something
about
the
incident..
Some
steps
are
made
to
appease
community
through
this
reform.
Effort.
I
reform
in
this
stage
often
will
look
like
well
like
rewards,
because
you
look
at
an
increased
budget
for
training,.
Increased
budget
for
gadgets,
increased
budget
for
people.,
usually
reform,
doesn't
include
a
pivot
away
from
resources
to
policing..
Reform
will
include
additional
resources
to
policing
that
could
be
better
used
in
other
places.
and
then,
even
though
these
reforms
usually
do
come
with
added
resources,
reforms
then
start
to
face
backlash,
we're
starting
to
see
now.
I
and
there's
a
revert
back
to
wanting
to
increase
policing,
wanting
to
increase
the
number
of
officers
and
wanting
to
rely
back
on
the
narrative
that
increased
policing
reduces
safety,,
reduces
crime
and
increase
public
safety..
So,
as
you
can
see,
your
funding
continues
to
flow.
policies
are
unchanged
and
individuals
are
not
held
accountable.
and
within
this
entire
cycle,
you
see
very,
very
little
actual
sustainable
structural
change,
policy.
I
Lasting
solutions
come
out
of
police
reform.,
so
missing.
This
approach
doesn't
take
aim
toward
innovation.,
heavily
reactionary,
new
ways
of
approaching
a
crisis.,
so
a
systemic
approach
to
what
is
putting
people
police..
So
it's
missing
a
systemic
approach
to
what
is
putting
people
police
in
power.
Struggles.
they're
missing
an
agreement
on
core
problems
of
these
abilities
to
solutions.,
and
it's
definitely
missing
follow
up
to
move
forward
the
goals
linked
to
the
need
for
change..
So
the
question
we
think
about
is:
how
do
we
break
from
this?
To
create
the
impact
we
are
all
working
toward?
I
The
difference
between
justice
and
punishment
and
policing
up
is
a
results
in
punishment
catching
of
what
we
would
consider
a
crime.,
some
of
the
time,
some
of
the
places
where
some
of
the
people
and
for
some
of
the
crimes
and
punishes
that
crime
and
then
puts
people
on
this
path
to
to
cardinal
punishment
or
other
types
of
punishment
that
they
may
receive.
rarely
does
that
lead
to
any
sense
of
justice..
I
I've
heard
a
definition
of
justice
that
is
around
creating
conditions,
just
conditions
in
the
community
that
eliminate
harm.,
but
exploring
this
concept
of
justice
versus
punishment
is
really
important
to
this
work..
The
purpose
of
the
current
system
is
to
punish
individuals
for
their
wrongdoings,
reacts
to
criminal
occurrence,
but
does
very
little
to
address
the
surrounding
context
or
to
mend
the
conditions
that
brought
about
harm.
castle
systems
are,
as
are.
I
Interested
in
reform
and
less
interested
in
justice.
when
you're
a
tool,
only
tool
is
a
hammer.
Then
everything
nail
justice,
addresses
and
fix.
Harm.
punishment
focuses
on
reacting
to
crime.
when
we
talked
earlier
about
our
visions
for
public
safety,.
One
of
the
things
that
I
mentioned
was
a
vision
for
public
safety
that
is
less
concerned
about
reducing.
I
am
more
concerned
about
reducing
harm.
next
slide.
I
Believes
that
simple
and
simple,
incomplete
definition
create
response
to
responses
to
violence
and
crime
that
prioritize
healing,,
repair
and
accountability
includes
a
system
analysis
that
puts
an
emphasis
on
how
this
came
to
be
and
what
happened.
so
eliminating
or
looking
at
the
root
causes
of
violence,
the
root
causes
of
harm.,
the
root
causes
of
crime
and
then
looking
at
this
accountability
for
it,,
these
things
are
already
happening.
and
you
look
at
the
slide
deck
after
you
can
move
to
bay
area,
transformative
justice,
coaching
our
collective
next
play
building
in
a.
I
It's
really
important
to
also
when
we
talk
about
violence
and
crime
to
include
in
that
conversation,
both
police
violence
and
crime
correct.
committed
by
police..
We
need
to
understand
what
problems
we
are
trying
to
solve.
address
inconsistencies
and
holding
individual
actions
accountable
for
their
reprehensible
actions
and
the
failure
to
do
so
dismantles
community
trust
injustice..
It
just
dismantles
community
trust
in
general
and
building
networks
of
accountability..
Much
gets
us
must
coach
closer
to
justice
than
the
current
more
punishment
system
that
we
set
up.
receive..
The
lag
is
here.
A
Our
next
conversation
we're
going
to
talk
about
about
some
of
our
data
needs..
We
shared
a
little
bit
of
some
data
that
came
out
of
some
reporting
and
some
work
that
that
the
racial
equity
community
safety
committee.-
how
is
it
that
we're
able
to
kind
of
research
in
tomorrow
talked
about
this,
but
we're
going
to
spend
the
next?
A
A
A
In
the
chat
afterwards,
if
that
makes
sense.
so
we'll
give
a
chance
for
everyone
to
report
out
on
a
couple
of
those
things.,
a
couple
of
data
sets
would
be
useful,
but
we're
going
to
try
to
crowdsource
them.
So
take
some
notes
and
then
we'll
put
in
the
chat
and
we'll
make
sure
that
we
capture
all
of
that
and
publish
that
as
part
of
few
minutes
for
this
meeting
next
time,
that
makes
sense.
A
The
conversation.,
so
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
gonna.
Do
a
a
the
lightning
round
that
we're
gonna
do.
Is
we're
going
to
ask
people
to
put
in
some
of
thier
some
of
your
requests
that
you
think
would
be
data
from
whatever
notes
that
you
took
put
them
into
the
chat
and
we
will
again
capture
all
that
information
in
the
chat
and
publish
it.,
so
they'll
be
part
of
our
thinking.
A
So
we're
not
going
to
do
a
deep
report
out
right
now
from
all
the
groups,
because
I'm
sure
you've
had
a
lot
of
great
ideas,
but
we're
going
to
go
right
to
the
next
segment
of
the
agenda..
So
this
is.
This
is
going
to
be
talking
about
one
initiative
that
is
actually
already
already
underway
in
our
community
and
so
we're
gonna
kick
this
over
to
sparky.,
so
I
will
share
screen.
Hopefully
this
works
better..
This
one.
F
F
F
F
F
Primarily
licensed
mental
health,
workers.
they're,
all
county
employees.,
they
diffuse
the
crises
on
their
own.,
they
do
it
with
police.
and
what
the
community
said
is
we
don't
want
either
one
of
those.?
We
want
one,
that's
only
the
community
that
community
members
community
agencies
they
want
did
on
public
employees..
They
didn't
want
police..
So
we
identified
a
funding.
Source,.
F
F
F
F
Zip
codes
that
have
high
need
and
then
we'll
also
be
doing
this
in
south
county,
but
with
this
community
mobile
response
you
can
move
to
the
next
is
going
to
have
is
the
calls
are
going
to
come
into
this
call
center
and
then
they're
either
going
to
be
diffused.
they're
not
going
to
go
through
nine
one,
one
police
they're
going
to
come
to
our
number..
Initially,
we
community
wanted
a
three
digit
number..
F
We
found
out
that
only
the
federal
government
can
issue
three
digit
numbers.,
so
it
will
be
a
new
number
here.,
but
numbers
will
call
directly
into
the
call
center
and
then
that
lead
to
be
de-escalate
it
over
the
phone
and
defuzed
or
teens
will
be
dispatched
to
go
out
in
the
community..
One
thing
we
want
to
say
is:
probably
50
percent
are
going
to
be
around
homeless,
issues.
others
are
going
to
be.
In-Home
calls
are
in
community
calls
said
that.
F
So
we
have
emt,
which
are
a
medically
trained,
because
some
of
the
calls
have
to
do
with
drug
overdoses..
There
are
medical
issues,
so
that's
the
cahoots
model
and
many
people
say
it's
important
to
have
that
in-home
t
call
the
community
and
our
40
focus
group
said
we
want
piers
involved
and
then
there's
the
community,
the
mobile
response,
workers..
So
there's
teams
of
three.
the
call
center.
What
we
have
also
that
we
created
was
what
we
call
community
collaborators
in.
F
Call
9
1
1
and
the
police,
as
you
know,,
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
will
say
well,
we
need
police..
What
we
need
is
more
police,,
not
less.,
and
what
we're
saying
is
no,.
We
need
the
community
understand.
We
have
the
skills
to
diffuse
these
problems
ourselves..
So
it's
going
back
to
identifying
kewpie.
key
people
in
the
community
to
act
as
these
collaborators
to
bring
people
together
as
an
advisory
board.
F
Techniques,
mediation,
all
these
issues
of
how
we
can
do
the
work
ourselves
and
not
call
police
and
also
then
it
be
need
help.
You
can
call
us,
but
not
the
police..
So
that's
what
this
community
collaborators
are
going
to
be.
it's
retraining
ourselves
to
handle
our
own
problems.,
so
concho,.
The
next
one
is.
I
think
that
so
here's
kind
of
circle
of
you
know,.
We
like
these
pictures,
how
we're
all
going
to
collaborate
and
do
this
stuff
kind
of
ourselves..
F
That's
the
key
piece
to
this..
But
then
we
have
the
call
center.
In
this
that's
going
to
be
doing..
There's
gonna
be
like
13
people
staffing.
This
call
center,
because
the
idea
is
the
call
center
is
going
to
try
and
figure
what
resources
somebody
might
need..
It's
not
just.
Oh,
you
feel
better.
great.
F
F
Like
in
santa
zay
and
there's
like
an
extra
call,
we
may
like
anywhere
else,
call
a
team
from
another
area
to
respond,
because
the
idea
is
to
respond
as
quickly
as
possible
when
we
need
to.,
we
also
will
be
coordinating
with
bill
wilson,
center's
new
call
center
that
handles
all
the
referrals
to
homeless
shelters..
We
are
starting
in
two
weeks
taking
over
the
county's
homeless,
shelter
hotline
that
basically
is
triaging
referrals
for
three
thousand
homeless
services.
F
We
provide
transportation
for
people
to
those
facilities
and
we'll
have
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
problems,
salting
money,
which
means,
if
there's
not
a
bed
available,
that
somebody
needs
help..
We
can
provide
funding
to
help
them
solve
an
issue
to
keep
them
housed
or
get
them
rehoused
quickly..
So
all
this
should
be
working
together.,
I'm
excited
about
it..
The
funding
is
there.
this
community
mobile
response.
New
name
is
trust..
I.
F
F
A
Expertise.
so
for
the
last
part,
we're
going
to
probably
agenda
today.
and
thank
you
for
the
leadership,
the
behavior,
the
behavior
health
contractors
association,
which
has
been
working
over
the
last
year
to
help
develop
this
model
and
research
things
around
the
country..
And
it's
great
to
see
that
we
have
an
active
pilot
that
is
under
that
that
is
under
development,
right
now.,
so
very
exciting.
so..
So
what.
A
B
B
B
B
B
Idea
I
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is.
I
want
to
communicate
the
sense
of
proposal
yet.,
but
this
is
one
idea
that's
being
circulated
is
to
create,
in
the
ongoing
civilian
oversight
board
a
public
safety
commission
advisory
committee
kind
of
like
this
group
of
individuals,
not
necessarily
this
group,
but
they'll,
be
continuing
over
the
course
of
time..
What
is
being
discussed.
B
B
A
Chris.,
I
think
the
reason
we
want
to
bring
this
to
your
attention,
and
I
put
it
in
the
senate
notes
in
linked
to
the
video
from
the
study
session,
where
they
looked
at
these
different
civilian
oversight
models
in
our
community
and
so
it'd
be
great
for
folks..
We
want
to
pick
up
on
this
conversation
next
time
at
our
next
next
meeting
to
look
at
some
civilian
oversight
models.,
and
so
we
might
be
able
to
provide
input
during
the
timeframe
of
this
of
this
process..
So
so
I
know
that
if.
A
A
J
tell
them
my
name's
tribe,
driving..
Sorry,
I
am
a
committee
member
representing
san
residents
with
mental
illness
were
struggling
with
substance,
user
addiction
and
I'm
also
here
the
effort
to
be
hca,.
The
health
contractors
association,
which
a
lot
of
hard,
hard
work
with
the
county
and
other
partner
community
based
organizations
to
get
this
program,
the
funding
it
needed
and
get
it
up
and
running..
I
have
a
little
bit
different
view
from
start
being
that
I
represent
the
consumer.
view
and
in
the
focus
groups
that
I
was
in
and
a
lot
of
the
family.