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City of San José, California
Joint meeting of Rules and Open Government / Committee of the Whole of December 2, 2020
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B
C
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G
I'm
excited
this
is
a
time
for
more
than
just
privacy
policy
ideas
to
protect
internal
government
practices.
This
is
open
public
policy
ideas.
A
time
of
this
is
a
time
of
open
public
policy.
Ideas
meant
for
a
whole
community
to
be
more
openly
involved
with
to
discuss
and
debate
towards
a
shared
middle
ground.
The
aclu
has
many
ideas
and
guidelines
that
can
work
towards
a
one
person
and
one
voice
idea
of
local
community
democracy
at
this
time.
G
These
are
ideas
of
actual
democratic
equality
for
a
community
that
perhaps
can
better
develop
decades
of
more
open,
more
representational
corporate
forms
of
democracy,
community
and
its
government.
It
is
a
good
aclu
work
that
I
feel
can
very
much
help
address
new
questions
of
equity
and
reimagine
in
local,
neighborhoods
and
communities
at
this
time
with
40
seconds
left,
I
wanted
to
remind
yourselves.
G
There
was
a
very
interesting
public
speaker
that
asked
yesterday
questions
about
the
future
of
camera
policies
and
and
and
and
how
how
that
can
be
relayed
to
a
to
a
board.
How
can
you
used
to
have
a
measure
keyboard
that
you
wanted
to
have
some
sort
of
technology,
public
oversight
about
that?
Didn't
work
out
too
well,
there
are
boards
within
san
jose
that
can
talk
about
oversight
issues
with
technology.
I
hope
we
can
really
address
that
and
and
give
it
a
little
bit
more
vibrancy
to
their
work
and.
H
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B
B
C
C
C
D
C
C
B
C
Okay,
that's
helpful.
I
don't
think
this
is
an
unmanageable
agenda.
Anyway,
we
could
probably
not
even
defer
some
of
those
things,
but
if
they're
not
urgent-
and
we
always
know
there's
something
that
will
be
as
I
see,
staff
is
recommending,
3.3,
3.7,
7.1
and
eight
point
four.
Is
that
right?
That
is
correct.
D
B
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C
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G
G
It
seems
mostly
agreed
upon
that
california
state
housing
forgiveness
issues
of
ab3088
fell
short
in
what
may
have
been
the
incredible
good
efforts
of
assembly
persons
like
david
chu
and
ash
karwa
this
past
summer.
I
hope
we
can
all
be
open
to
new
federal
funding
ideas
and
how
to
better,
develop
state
of
california
ideas
and
funding
mechanisms
that
are
now
being
developed
at
the
state
level
for
the
next
few
years.
G
It
is
these
good
efforts
that
can
help
avoid
the
economy
for
the
next
few
years
and
in
dwindling
down
cobia
19.,
to
learn
to
expand
ab300
3088
this
january
more
to
its
initial
housing.
Forgiveness,
ideas
and
guarantees
is
cooperative,
help
for
tenants,
small
businesses,
owners,
apartment
owners
and
local
landowners
alike.
G
It
is
understanding
this
concept
collectively.
That
is
important
at
this
time
again
to
offer
alameda
county
simply
has
a
good
perspective,
how
to
understand
the
future
of
state
funding
ideas
and
then
explain
this
to
its
communities
in
honest,
straightforward
terms,
this
helps
avoid
unnecessary
harm
and
hardship
for
everyday
community
who
can
be
unsure
of
these
sorts
of
things.
Thank
you.
J
B
You
know
we've
been
pushing.
Obviously
we
don't
have
anything
planned
for
3.1
right
now,
which
makes
it
a
bit
easier.
We
have
been
struggling
with
some
of
the
land
use
items
coming
up
extremely
late
for
our
public,
and
so
this
was
a
way
to
mitigate
that,
but
if
we
are
doing
the
deferrals
and
lightening
the
load
without
a
3.1,
I
would
say
that
it's
a
soft
request.
E
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C
C
Reluctant
high
all
right,
we
have
another
chance
to
change
this
next
week,
we'll
we'll
see
how
the
lobbying
works
out
between
now
and
next
week,
all
right
so
on
to
d1
we're
setting
a
general
plan
hearing
for
december
wait
a
minute.
How
can
we
do
that?
I
guess
we
we
can
do
that
all
right
for
december
15th.
C
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C
G
G
I
admit
I
used
smaller
statistical
numbers
to
keep
alarm
down
and
to
give
a
more
dry
positive
measurement
and
outlook
of
the
overall
situation.
However,
the
death
statistic
numbers
that
I've
been
using
from
page
one
of
the
google
search
engine
was
much
underreporting.
Its
daily
cases
and
death
count
numbers.
So
my
initial
concerns
of
70
deaths
a
week
that
could
rise
to
120
to
130
a
week
and
actually
out
in
actuality,
are
closer
to
per
day
numbers
not
per
week
numbers
I'm
sorry
about
this,
but
that's
life
with
our
society,
media
and
its
human
relationship.
G
I
thank
you
that
in
the
least
we
now
have
a
raise
in
human
consciousness
and
more
factual
reporting
from
the
google
search
engine
that
is
reporting
more
factually
this
time
it
seems
the
risk
is
being
taken
by
a
government
that
they
feel
with
a
vaccination
process
arriving.
There
can
be
a
rise
in
cases
without
with
a
minimum
amount
of
new
deaths.
G
G
D
G
G
Hi,
this
is
a
bit
a
difficult
thing
to
to
ask
about
with
art
grant
money.
I
have
a
bit
of
a
worry
that
some
of
your
art
grant
money
a
few
years
ago
was
being
used
for
the
big
belly
program
in
downtown
san
jose,
and
I'm
wondering
how
projects
have
art
projects
have
been.
You
even
had
an
art
proposition
measure.
I
think
on
your
ballot
recently.
You
wanted
it
anyway.
G
G
C
H
C
H
H
They
need
to
bulldoze
about
half
of
it
and
start
over
again,
because
the
economic
recovery
I
mean
it's
been
under
economic
recovery.
For
I
don't
know
for
three
or
four
decades
and
look
at
it,
I
mean
I
told
you
once
I'll,
tell
you
a
thousand
more
times.
It's
look
like
the
covid
hit
downtown
last
year,
the
year
before
and
the
year
before,
that,
etc.
H
Okay,
so
what
do
you
guys?
What
are
your
ideas
about?
How
you're
going
to
make
that
downtown
better,
because
it
looks
like
you've
ran
out
of
no
one's
living
in
those
high-rises
either
you
can't
support
a
grocery
store.
You
can't
support
a
movie
theater.
You
can't
support
the
hammer
theater,
you
can't
support
anything
down
downtown
those
restaurants
have
been
new
restaurants
every
other
year
for
the
last.
How
many
years
I
want
to
know
what
pothead
paralysis
ideas
are
on
this.
H
You
know
probably
opening
up
a
pot
store,
and
maybe
you
know
what
we'd
be
like
oregon
open
up
an
opium
den
next
and
make
make
all
drugs
legal
down
there.
I
don't
know
what
else
to
do
you
can't
even
keep
a
liquor
store
in
business
down
there?
How
ghetto
is
that
I
mean
look
around
your
your
city
hall.
It
looks
like
crap.
A
Thank
you,
mayor
council,
members
and
city
staff
of
the
rules
committee.
My
name
is
lisa
umer,
executive,
director
of
san
jose
taiko
and
a
co-chair
of
the
greater
downtown
san
jose
economic
recovery
task
force
in
the
second
phase
of
the
task
force,
we
focus
primarily
on
those
sectors
still
severely
restricted
or
unable
to
reopen
and
on
improving
timely
communications
between
policy
makers.
The
committee
and
task
force
members
were
able
to
dialogue
respectfully
across
sectors
resulting
in
the
list
of
recommendations
that
we
submit
to
you
for
review.
A
With
our
county's
return
to
the
purple
tier
and
both
cases
and
hospitalizations
escalating
in
our
area.
We
need
to
continue
to
work
collectively
across
sectors
to
reopen
safely
and
thoughtfully
to
protect
our
families,
our
customers,
our
audiences,
our
employees
and
our
businesses
and
our
communities.
A
Many
thanks
to
council
member
perales
and
his
d3
staff
for
their
support
in
convening
the
second
phase
of
the
greater
downtown
economic
recovery
task
force.
It's
my
sincere
hope
that
you
approve
his
memo
and
agenda
is
the
task
force
recommendations
for
full
city
council
discussion
on
december
8th.
Thank
you.
I
I
I
The
civic
structure
is
going
to
continue
to
exist,
but
there's
no
guarantee
that
these
businesses,
especially
these
linchpin
businesses,
that
we
all
think
of
when
we
think
of
our
downtown
and
our
business
community,
just
might
go
out
of
business
if
we
don't
take
active
steps
to
save
them,
and
I
think
that
you
all
have
an
active
role
you
can
play
in
that
here
and
especially
next
week
when
this
goes
forward.
If
it
goes
forward,
grants
and
waived
fees
are
the
most
important
thing
that
we
can
do
for
them.
I
Putting
money
in
the
pockets
of
these
business
owners
is
the
single
best
way
to
help
them,
and
I
like
to
call
a
special
attention
to
the
proposed
fee
cap
on
delivery.
Apps,
that's
a
way
that
we
can
help
these
businesses
winterize,
not
just
by
buying
tents
and
canopies
and
getting
permits,
but
by
helping
them
survive,
especially
if
we
go
back
into
another
full
shutdown.
Lockdown
situation
like
we
were
in
in
the
spring
of
this
year.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
I
G
Much
hi
thanks
for
the
words
of
the
previous
speaker.
I
you
know,
I
it
made
me
think
of
people
like
ash
kara,
who
I
I
try
to
mention.
Often
he
worked
really
hard
the
past
summer
to.
I
think
he
was
working
on
really
interesting,
fair
ideas
of
forgiveness
ideas
for
not
only
housing
tenants
but
for
their
apartment
owners
for
small
businesses
and
for
their
landlords.
G
D
Good
afternoon
mayor,
can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
great,
thank
you
and
thank
you
to
the
committee
member
for
considering
member
paralysis,
recommendations
and
the
recommendations
of
the
task
force.
My
name
is
jay
ross,
I'm
a
shareholder
with
hopkins
and
carly.
Our
main
office
is
located
in
the
heart
of
downtown.
I
also
was
proud
and
happy
to
serve
on
the
task
force.
I
know
you
all
know
that.
D
There's
tremendous
struggle
in
in
all
of
our
local
businesses,
going
on
in
the
greater
downtown
area
and
elsewhere
because
of
the
pandemic
and
the
struggles
are
growing.
The
task
force
recommendations
come
from
a
inclusive
process
that
encompassed
voices
from
frankly
day-to-day
experiences
and
business
owners
and
representatives
from
a
variety
of
sectors.
D
They're
they're
well
thought
out,
they're
a
really
great
place
for
us
to
get
going
and
to
keep
going
as
we
start
to
try
and
help
businesses
recover.
The
recommendations
include
policy
and
tactical
ideas
to
provide
short-term
relief
and
long-term
strategies
for
hopefully
sustainable
economy
and
economic
growth.
Please
agendize
these
recommendations
and
pass
them
forward
to
the
city
council
for
its
full
discussion
on
december
8th.
Thank
you
very
much.
H
Good
afternoon
mayor
city
council,
this
is
at
brendan
rossen
executive
director
for
san
jose
jazz
and
wanted
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
asking
to
move
the
recommendations
from
council
member
perales
forward
to
the
coal
city
council.
I
had
the
opportunity
to
chair
one
of
the
committees
of
the
task
force,
the
arts
and
special
events
committee,
and
it
was
a
it
was
a
great
process
just
to
chase
comments
that
he
was
just
making
the
breadth
of
engagement.
H
The
process
has
really
reflected
a
great
threat
of
the
downtown
economy
and
was
one
of
the
few
occasions
when
felt
that
we've
had
an
opportunity
to
work
cross-sector
to
come
up
with
strategies
that
that
the
whole
downtown
community
could
get
behind
in
advancing,
so
greatly
hope
that
the
rules
committee
will
move
this
forward.
Thank
you.
N
Thank
you
very
much
mayor
and
and
to
the
committee
and
to
the
public
speakers,
especially
the
participants
of
the
task
force
for
making
time
to
to
come
out
today
and
certainly
been
a
lot
of
work
from
the
task
force
members
and,
as
this
committee
may
recall,
much
like
our
first
set
of
recommendations.
These
are
not
my
personal
recommendations
coming
forward.
N
That's
one
of
the
biggest
things
that
we
have
heard
consistently
throughout
this
process,
and
so
together
there
were
55
different
small
businesses
and
local
organizations
that
we
convened
through
the
greater
downtown
san
jose
economic
recovery
task
force.
And
during
this
second
phase,
we
expanded
from
four
to
eight
committees,
and
we
had
stakeholders
of
all
sizes,
this
time
from
small
restaurants,
to
the
billy,
to
frank
center
up
to
the
hilton
hotel
and
all
the
way
to
adobe.
N
N
N
That
is
happening
now:
destination,
marketing
and
a
downtown
economic
stimulus
and
recovery
study,
which
also
happened
to
leverage
additional
funding
through
our
office
of
cultural
affairs
and
the
private
sector.
And
so
it's
now
my
honor
to
present
these
recommendations
to
you,
I
ask
that
you
approve
that
they
be
agendize
for
the
next
council
discussion
and
again.
C
B
B
No,
I
mean,
I
think,
the
the
overall
work
program,
I
think,
is
a
green
light
again
you're,
absolutely
right.
Some
will
be
funneled
into
the
budget
process
and-
and
obviously
you
guys
will
have
a
hand
in
that
others.
You
know,
there's
there's
things
referenced
around
like
the
state,
our
state
legislative
guiding
principles.
B
Some
of
them
may
or
may
not
be
feasible,
given
what
the
legislature
choose
to
take
this
year,
so
I
think
there
could
be
components
of
it
as
we
get
further
on
and
understand
some
of
this
work
that
could
come
up
in
the
roadmap
exercise.
Let's
say
that
we
previewed
with
you
but
as
a
whole
right
now
we're
comfortable
with
them
moving
forward.
C
To
say
thank
you
to
to
the
many
strong
advocates
downtown
for
small
businesses
and
social
community.
Thank
you
to
lisa
and
brandon
and
jay,
and
many
others
who
all
weighed
in
appreciate
hearing
from
you
all
right
on
to
item
four,
which
is
the
jpa
issued
bonds
for
moderate
income,
housing,
counselor
kamis.
I
know
this
is
your
initiative?
Did
you
want?
You
want
to
go
to
the
public
first
or.
E
G
G
G
It
should
be
considered
another
tool
in
the
housing
department's
toolbox
to
address
the
severe,
affordable
housing
shortage
we
are
facing.
By
joining
the
jpa
sounds
they
can
join
the
many
other
cities
who
have
to
careful
vetting
agreed
to
benefit
from
this
program
of
my
mind
out.
It's
that
it's
an
innovative
way
to
find
affordable
housing
quickly,
and,
in
summary,
we
encourage
the
city
to
join
the
cj
program
immediately,
and
I
thank
you
for
taking
this
subject
off.
I
I
There
are
no
financing
mechanisms
available
through
bonding
and
other
tax
credit
programs
to
build
this
type
of
housing
and
the
market
can't
build
it
at
current
construction
costs
and
land
costs.
So,
in
order
to
fill
this
hole,
we
need
innovative
ideas
on
what
you
have
in
front
of
you.
It
is
an
innovative
idea.
It's
also
an
innovative
idea
that
comes
with
very
little
risk.
There
are
19
other
jurisdictions
across
the
state
that
have
already
successfully
joined
the
jpa
and
have
projects
in
the
pipeline
or
open
and
operational.
I
I
will
conclude
by
saying
we:
we
are
seeing
an
a
very
troubling
exodus
of
many
companies
from
the
bay
area.
Just
yesterday,
hula
curtainized
they're
moving
their
headquarters
to
to
texas
and
the
the
unifying
message
we're
hearing
from
those
companies
is
the
inability
to
attract
and
retain
talent
because
of
the
cost
of
housing
in
our
region.
We
need
to
do
something
urgently
about
that
to
stem
that
flow,
and
this
is
a
piece
of
that
puzzle.
So
we
would
urge
you,
please
do
not
look
back
a
couple
of
years
from
now
at
an
incredible,
missed
opportunity.
C
O
O
So
what
this
does
is
you
have
a
model
that
is
proven
they
will
cal
cha
will
soon
have
acquired
nearly
1500
units
across
the
bay
area.
These
are
units
that
went
from
being
market
rate
to
middle
class.
People's
rents
are
being
lowered
all
across
the
bay
area.
San
jose
can
have
that
too.
They
can
join
this
program
and
renters
will
see
immediate
relief
from
any
acquisition
done
by
cal
cha.
D
O
Bobian
good
afternoon,
honorable
mayor
vice
marin,
members
of
the
rules
committee,
tim
bobian,
representing
the
santa
clara
county
association
of
realtors
score
supports
the
city
of
san
jose
to
join
cal
cha
in
its
current
proven
form.
This
innovative
new
strategy
is
a
perfect
tool
to
continue
to
work
to
solve
the
region's
housing
crisis.
O
Cal
cha
have
created
an
effective
program
to
address
an
issue
we've
been
struggling
with
for
decades,
creating
ample
supply
of
affordable
housing.
The
current
covent
19
pandemic
and
a
possible
lasting
economic
recession
is
only
going
to
worsen
that
current
crisis
becoming
a
member
of
cal
cha
will
allow
san
jose
to
quickly
create
much
needed
housing
for
a
missing
middle
populations
such
as
nurses,
teachers
and
other
public
servants
without
enduring
any
displacement.
O
This
also
creates
a
pathway
for
the
city
of
san
jose
to
take
ownership
at
no
cost
to
these
affordable
housing
assets,
providing
an
opportunity
for
the
city
to
provide
perpetually
affordable
housing
across
the
income
spectrum.
This
is
something
that
the
city
of
san
jose
can
and
should
be
doing,
to
provide
much
needed,
affordable
housing
to
public
servants
and
the
rest
of
our
missing
middle
population.
O
Once
joining
the
jpa,
the
city
still
maintains
control
as
to
where
this
form
of
housing
can
take
place,
and
it
has
been
effectively
designed
to
ensure
maximum
flexibility,
increasing
success
of
the
policy.
It
also
creates
immediate,
affordable
housing,
as
I
said,
without
displacement,
or
adding
any
workload
to
city
staff,
allowing
additional
resources
and
time
to
be
diverted
to
other,
affordable
housing.
Efforts
in
the
city
score
strongly
urges
the
city
of
san
jose
to
join
cal
cha
in
its
current
form,
adopting
a
program
that
has
already
been
implemented
across
the
state
to
great
success.
Q
Q
I
am
a
board
member
at
san
jose
conservation
corps
and
charter
school
and
sam.
You
probably
know
us
very
well
you've
been
involved
in
it
and
helped
us
a
lot,
and
you
know
we've
been
following
this
homelessness,
and
especially
low-income
housing
issues
for
quite
a
number
of
years,
and
I
think
this
is
a
fantastic
opportunity
to
get
in
and
support.
Cal
cha,
no
risk
whatsoever
that
I
can
see
and
and
in
the
end,
the
economic
job
that
we're
going
to
get
from.
Q
Q
It
will
go
a
long
way
to
retaining
that
and
in
the
end
you
know
there
may
be
some
other
opportunities
to
do
something
with
these
properties
that
the
city
will
acquire,
like
perhaps
rent-to-own
type
of
situation,
and
also
telling
you
that
a
favorable
price
for
the
people
to
own
themselves,
so
that
can
be
explored
later.
But
I
think
we
must
not
miss
this
opportunity,
and
I
appreciate
you
letting
me
talk
about
that
and
all
the
best.
Thank
you.
Q
Good
afternoon
mayor
vice
mayor
and
council
members,
first,
we
really
appreciate
staff
work
on
this
and
the
challenges
with
you
know
I
know,
there's
a
lot
on
their
plate
and
the
importance
of
working
through
the
details.
As
this
moves
ahead,
we've
had
multiple
opportunities
to
speak
with
the
catalyst
staff
about
cal
cha.
Q
This
is
really
a
new
emergent
product
and
it's
great
to
hear
that
there
are
multiple
players
that
are
exploring
this
and
we
know
that
staff
is
invested
and
interested,
and
that
this
is
an
opportunity
that
that
I
it
looks
like
we're
going
to
embrace.
I,
I
won't
repeat
what
others
have
said.
We
think
this
is
an
important
opportunity
for
the
following
reasons.
Q
First,
we
don't
believe
that
entering
into
this
relationship
with
cal
cha
precludes
entering
into
similar
relationships
with
other
authorities
in
the
future,
it
isn't
clear
there
has
to
be
a
choice
or
that
the
city's
investments
need
to
be
overwhelmed,
given
the
potential
benefits.
In
fact,
it
seems
clear
that
the
work
that's
been
done
already
has
produced
value
in
assessing
other
possibilities.
Q
We
believe
that
the
model
responds
to
a
pressing
need
for
missing
middle
housing.
While
we,
we
recognize
that
some
portion
of
each
project
would
clearly
be
roughly
at
existing
market
rates,
the
program
design
targets
a
third
at
below
80
ami,
and
this
has
real
value.
This
is
an
area
where
we
face
real
challenges.
Q
E
E
It's
a
no-brainer
because
it
won't
displace
anybody
for
the
for
the
for
the
units
that
they've
already
purchased
they're,
not
displacing
any
immediate,
relying
on
attrition
and
reevaluating
rents
at
the
units
there,
or
that
they've
are
handling,
there's
no
financial
risk
whatsoever
and,
and
the
staff
reports
points
that
out.
There's
some.
You
know
headline
risk
as
as
staff
recommended,
but
we
face
headline
risk
with
every
thing
that
we
do
even
with
school
districts
that
they
they
that
create
headline
risk
and
we
we
actually
help
with
their
bonds.
E
There's
no
there's
no
need
for
ad
staffing
because
they
manage
the
properties
themselves
and
in
the
end,
this
is
much
faster
than
than
building
and
guess
what
at
the
end
of
the
bond
payment
period,
the
city
gets
assets
for
free
they
don't
they
get.
I
mean.
How
often
do
we
get
free
land,
even
even
if
it's
a
dilapidated,
older
building,
it's
something
that
we
currently
pay
for
when
we
bought
the
plaza
hotel,
we
spent
millions
of
dollars
fixing
it
up.
E
This
will
be
land
that
the
city
can
gain
at
the
end
of
the
bond
payment
period
and
guess
what
my
favorite
is.
No
new
taxes,
no
new,
no
new
taxes
that
are
currently
driving
out
our
middle
income
earners
out
of
the
state
and
and
and
and
that's
why.
I
think
that
this
is
a
good
idea
and
it
belongs
on
the
city
council
agenda,
I'm
hoping
that
we
are.
E
C
D
M
The
administration
agrees
that
the
proposals
offer
us
a
new
tool
to
serve
moderate
income
households
and
when
you
consider
the
rents
that
one
would
be
able
to
achieve
in
this
program
as
high
as
3
186
dollars
a
month
for
a
one
bedroom
at
120
percent
of
the
ami
to
a
low
of
over
two
thousand
dollars
so
2100
for
an
80
unit.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we
were
clear
regarding
this
is
not
a
low
income
housing
program.
M
M
We
have
found
that,
since
we
actually
published
our
memo
that
this
approach
is
beginning
to
get
some
legs
across
the
state
of
california,
and
since
we
again,
we
submitted
our
memo.
We've
learned
of
two
new
jpas
that
are
operating
in
california,
and
so
this
idea
is
definitely
expanding
and
there's
lots
of
opportunity.
M
M
M
M
C
J
J
We
all
recognize
the
need
in
the
demand
for
it,
but
we
have
to
prioritize-
and
I
think
staff
has
done
a
great
job
of
laying
out
the
priorities
of
what
they're
working
on
and
what
needs
to
be
done.
First,
my
question
to
you,
though,
is:
can
we
get
a
timeline
on
when
we
could
possibly
have
the
rfi
issued
and
when
you
can
start
working
on
on
the
project
or
the
process,
I'll
direct
that
to
julia
first
and
then
jackie.
L
M
What
we
were
thinking
of
is
we
could
do
a
release
of
the
rfi
sometime
in
march
and
april.
So
as
long
as
you
know,
covid
continues
to
move
forward
and,
as
julia
said,
there's
not
some
new
crisis,
then
we
would,
we
feel
confident
we
could
do
that
at
least
begin
that
process
in
march
and
april
and
then,
however
long
it
takes
us
to
finish
it.
J
So
that
sounds
very
reasonable
to
me.
I
would
be
supportive
of
moving
forward
with
with
that
timeline,
but
I'm
I'm
not
supportive
of
of
rushing
this.
I
want
to
give
staff
an
opportunity
to
do
their
due
diligence,
even
though
some
people
might
think
of
this
as
a
no-brainer
reading
your
memo
and
all
the
issues
that
you
raised
and
all
the
concerns
that
you
had
it.
It
doesn't
come
across
as
a
no-brainer
to
me
and
that's
that's
my
comments
mayor.
C
K
Thank
you.
I
actually
want
to
one
commend
my
colleague
councilmember
thomas
and
councilmember
diep
for
their
interest
in
addressing
middle
class
housing.
It's
something
that
I
I
know
that
I
am
very
much
in
support
of.
I
have
a
really
large
middle
class
community-
that's
very
strong
and-
and
I'd
like
to
see
more
of
of
of
of
that
community
being
supported.
K
Let
me
ask
you
a
question:
if,
if
you
were
to
do
this
now,
if
you
were
to
take
this
on
now,
you
said
you
would
have
to
let
go
of
something
so
either
we
let
go
of
something
or
you
can
add
additional
housing
staff,
which
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
time,
jackie
to
advocate
for
additional
housing
stuff.
Seeing
that
we're
gonna
have
a
lot
of
these
issues
coming
up.
M
I
mean
even
getting
additional
staff
is
like
a
three-month
process,
so
it
doesn't
even
speed
up
anything
right
because
you
still
have
to
have
a
job
description.
You
got
to
post
it
like,
unfortunately,
nothing
we
do
right
now
is
very
fast,
and
so,
even
if
you
said
we'll
give
you
staff
to
do
that,
it's
not
something
that
happens
in
a
in
a
any
wouldn't
happen
any
faster
than
the
proposal
we
have
come
back
with,
which
is
the
march
april
time
frame.
K
K
Yes,
we
we
need
everything.
I
just
don't
think
it's
the
right
time
and
I
think
that
that
jackie
you've
already
said
that
you
could
take
this
on
just
given
some
some
leeway,
I
think
you
said
springtime
would
be
most
appropriate,
and
so
I
hope
that
this
is
something
that
we
can
move
towards.
I
don't
know
that
jackie
you're,
saying
no
you're,
saying
let
l
let
us
take
a
let's.
K
C
M
No,
actually,
that's
not
correct,
because
this
is
part
of
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we're
agreeing.
We
would
take
it
back
up,
because
the
item
that
we've
we've
put
on
the
shelf
frankly
has
been
the
moderate
income
housing
strategy,
of
which
we
were
hoping
to
bring
something
like
this
forward
and
had
been
working
towards
that.
It
has
been
the
project
that
has
really
suffered
as
a
result
of
covet
19.
Frankly,
because
we
just
don't
have
capacity.
M
C
C
C
C
It's
got
to
meet
these
minimum
requirements
and
anybody
wants
to
come
under
those
conditions.
We
welcome
you
is
that
does
that
help
reduce
or
eliminate
any
steps
here,
because
I
think
we've
all
been
through
the
pain
of
procurement
and
rfis
and
rfps,
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
if
there's
a
straighter
line
to
the
finish
line.
D
C
C
So
if
you
know
the
council
got
together
and
we
decided-
I
guess
currently
what
I've
heard
from
one
of
these
off
one
of
these
organizations
is
that
you
know
one
third
of
their
housing
would
be
rent,
restricted,
80
ami,
I
think
another
third,
is
it
a
third
at
100,
I
think,
is
what
they
said.
I
can't
remember.
D
C
So
if
we
just
as
a
council,
okay,
let's
set
the
bar
a
little
higher
and
say
third
has
to
be
at
75
right,
and
we
put
that
together
with
other
conditions.
That
say,
you
know
that
it
can't
be
any
recourse
to
the
general
fund
and
you
know
no
risk
blah
blah
blah.
We
put
all
that
out
there,
wouldn't
it
facilitate
us
getting
to
the
finish
line
faster
than
going
through
an
extensive
rfi
rfp
process
and
hopefully
consume
less
staff
time.
D
I
think
that
evaluating
the
proposals
against
each
other
won't
be
too
much.
I
guess
in
my
in
my
perspective,
I
think
it
would
not
be
a
good
outcome
to
write
an
rfi
and
use
that
time
and
get
zero
responses
back,
because
we
could
have
written
something
a
little
bit
more
broad,
a
little
bit
less
directive,
gotten
responses
back
and
then
compared.
D
D
C
Right,
but
my
concern,
though,
is
that
I
think
we're
going
into
this
with
the
assumption
that
there
isn't
necessarily
going
to
be
one
winner.
There
could
be
multiple
editors
yeah
and
that,
to
some
extent
undermine
the
likelihood
that
competition
is
going
to
get
us
our
best
result,
as
opposed
to
us
saying
hey.
This
is
what
we
want.
You
got
to
jump
over
this
bar.
L
So
mayor
this
just
to
you
to
christian's
point
about
an
rfi,
an
rfi
is
a
request
for
information,
so
we
could
just
put
something
out
there.
That's
very
broad.
The
city
of
san
jose
is
looking
at
a
moderate
income.
Housing
program
send
us
your
pitch
book.
That
is
that
simple,
because
we
know
there
are
companies
out
there
that
are
pitching
this
product
right,
jpas,
individual
investment,
banking
firms
and
they
send
us
their
pitch
book.
L
Then
we
theoretically
have
at
least
asked
for
the
universe
of
people
that
may
be
interested
in
doing
business
with
us
and
being
able
to
sit
down
and
say.
Okay.
This
looks
like
this
looks
just
like
this
and
then
be
able,
then
to
define
a
scope
of
what
our
parameters
would
be
in
the
solicitation
of
somebody
that
we
could
do
business
with.
Maybe
there's
somebody
out
there
that
has
a
product,
that's
really
close
to
what
we
want.
L
C
Yeah,
I
guess
my
concern
with
that.
Is
that
again,
I
think,
leads
us
down
just
into
a
lot
of
rabbit
holes,
to
try
and
evaluate
each
and
every
program
and
compare
their
apples
to
their
oranges
and
try
to
assess
in
some
objective
way.
What's
better.
What's
not,
and
we
all
know,
there's
lots
of
ways
to
hide
things
on
term
sheets
that
could
be
less
than
the
competitive
process.
M
So
I
would
think
that,
even
if
we
did
your
approach,
we
still
would
want
to
be
thoughtful
regarding
what
that
term
sheet
would
look
like
and
what
all
what
are
the
most
important
variables
and
so,
from
my
perspective,
we're
still
not
picking
up
the
project
until
march
or
april
to
april
to
do
that
thinking,
but
then,
instead
we
would
come
back
in
either
march
or
april
with
here's.
What
our
proposed
term
sheet
looks
like
do
you
agree
and
then
off.
We.
D
D
You
can
spend
more
time
up
for
like
later
on
looking
at
what
you
got
with
a
quick
rfi
or
you
could
spend
a
little
more
time
up
front
defining
what
is
it
we're
trying
to
get
and
then
either
get
fewer
proposals
or
very
on
point
proposals
either
way,
we'll
have
to
come
back
and
say
they
did
well
in
this.
They
didn't
do
so
well
in
this,
and
then
you
know
lay
it
out.
I
mean
there
will
be
analysis
and
laying
it
out.
C
C
It
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
that
we
are
spinning
our
wheels
on
it.
It
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
for
me,
for
example,
for
us
to
assess
whether
or
not
they're
paying
bond
council
or
underwriting
firms
too
much
if
we
think
their
profits
are
too
high.
Let's
demand
more
affordability
and
get
the
outcomes
we
want,
whether
they
make
money
or
not
shouldn't
be
our
problem.
C
Well,
again,
it's
it's
not
us!
That's
at
risk
here,
and
I
never
heard
concerns
about
other
taxing
entities
when
we
ran
a
redevelopment
agency
for
a
quarter
century
and
and
we're
absolutely
wrapping
ourselves
around
the
axle
on
these
issues,
and
it's
making
me
believe
that
we
just
aren't
that
interested
in
leaning
in
on
partnerships
that
involve
entities
outside
of
city
hall
to
solve
problems
that
we
clearly
do
not
have
the
resources
to
solve.
C
You
know
we
have
produced
none
of
these
units
in
recent
years.
We
don't
have
the
resources
to
produce
these
units,
and
the
nature
of
public-private
partnerships
requires
that
we
be
open
to
engaging
with
entities
outside
city
hall
to
get
something
done.
Rather
than
insisting.
We
always
know
how
to
do
better,
and
my
concern
is
that
we
seem
to
be
taking
an
approach
that
would
make
it
impossible
for
anyone
meaningfully
to
engage
in
getting
this
done.
M
M
We
do
see
this
as
a
potential
new
tool
that
can
meet
a
need
for
a
particular
income
group,
a
much
higher
income
group
than
we
would
typically
serve
because
our
resources
don't
allow
us
to
do
that
and
that
there
is
a
gap.
You
know
in
our
market
between
what
we
can
serve
and
what
the
market
can
serve
and
clearly
there's
a
portion
of
these
units
that
will
serve
that
gap.
It's
not
going
to
be
the
entire,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
portion
of
the
units,
and
I
do
think
there
are.
M
C
Jackie,
I
hear
you,
you
know
the
word.
Control
comes
to
mind
that
clearly
there's
an
issue
about
a
lack
of
control
that
we
would
have-
and
I
understand,
there's
justifiable
reasons
for
us
to
be
concerned
about
lack
of
control.
We
know
there's
real
impacts,
particularly
for
the
residents
who
are
living
there
surrounding
neighborhoods.
These
can
be
well
maintained
or
the
in
good
condition,
all
those
things,
and
so
I
guess
maybe
the
question
is
for
nora.
C
F
C
M
Correct
and
that
mechanism
requires
us
to
think
through
all
the
issues
and
to
lay
them
out
so
that
we
can
have
an
appropriate
agreement,
and
all
of
that
takes
brain
power,
not
my
brain
power,
thank
god,
but
it
will
take
some
of
my
staff's
brain
power,
of
which
she
has
very
limited
brain
power
right
now.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see.
M
I
mean
originally,
we
yell
lighted
this,
but
we're
coming
back
to
you
to
say:
okay,
we're
gonna.
We
had
a
moderate
income
plan,
the
housing
department
we're
gonna,
take
it
on,
but
what
we're
really
asking
for
is
some
time
to
actually
get
through
the
work
that
we
have
now
so
that
we
can
do
this
appropriately
and
actually
get
it
done
and
not
have
someone
who
has
to
work
100
hours
a
week.
B
So
if
I
could
just
jump
in
really
quickly,
you
know
mayor
you,
you
raise
really
important
policy
questions
and
and
absolutely
agree
with
you.
You
know
the
the
problems
that
we
face
today,
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
solve
by
ourselves
by
by
any
imagination,
so
so
how
we
partner
is
going
to
be
really
important,
and
you
know
I
agree
with
kristin.
There's
there's
two
different
paths
here.
The
the
rfi
is
one
that
you
know
we
had
talked
about
because
it
gives
us
a
lot
of
information
than
to
go.
Do
the
work.
B
You
know
if
they
kind
of
have
to
show
us
their
cards
or
we
can
go
the
route
of
the
term
sheet
and
do
some
of
that
work
up
front.
I
you
know.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
probably
arrive
at
the
same
finish
line,
no
matter
what
method
I
think
to
you
know
I
would
say,
from
the
city
manager's
office
perspective,
to
back
up
jackie
on
this.
I
think
timing
is
more
of
the
issue
versus
the
policy
questions
you
have
that
I
think
are
really
fair
that
we
would
want
to
figure
out.
B
I
I
think
this
is
going
to
require
some
time
from
housing
and
from
finance,
and
so
I
I
would
just
say
I
think,
we're
open
to
the
avenue
and
the
method
here
I
I
would
say
that
the
the
timing
is
our
issue
on
this,
as
we
close
out
the
crf
and
hopefully
get
new
stimulus,
money
and
finance
is
really
heavily
weighted
on
in
the
eoc.
We
do
require
an
awful
lot
of
their
attention
through
the
recovery
process
and
with
fema
right
now,.
C
I
appreciate
I
I
guess
when
I'm
coming
with
all
this
is
I
can't
help
but
think
that
we
are
inadvertently
unintentionally
creating
more
work
for
ourselves
than
we
need
to
yeah,
and
I
look
for
example,
at
the
arena.
Housing
needs
allocation.
This
is
another
bullet
point.
It
shows
up
in
the
report.
We're
not
clear
if
the
units
acquired
and
subsequently
income
restricted
would
count
toward
the
renal
allocation.
Well,
let's
face
it.
No
no
city
in
the
state
to
my
knowledge
has
met
the
arena
allocation
so
whether
they
need
it
or
not.
C
This
notion
that
what
we're
going
to
do
is
have
an
rfi
have
a
whole
bunch
of
proposals
and
then
burrow
into
all
the
details
of
all
the
proposers
and
try
to
answer
every
single
one
of
these
questions,
because
I
don't
think
we
are.
I
think
the
better
approach
frankly
is
for
us
to
decide
clearly
what
we
want
and
force
people
to
go
where
we
want
to
go.
A
Thank
you
mayor
appreciate
all
your
all
your
comments.
I
I
guess
I
keep
coming
back
to
you
know.
Cal
cha
came
to
us,
that's
the
same
thing
as
putting
out
an
rfi
and
they
came
to
us
and
said
we
hey
we'll
do
it
and-
and
nobody
else
really
has
my
understanding
is
cscda-
is
creating
a
new
jpa
and
they
don't
have
anything
yet.
I
don't
know
about
these
other
two
in
in
reality
about
the
four
that
we're
talking
about
how
many
of
them
actually
have
projects.
A
We
know
cal
cha
has
projects
if
we're
going
to
be
evaluating
each
of
them
go
with
all
four
of
them
or
none
of
them.
Then
why
not
just
evaluate
this
bird
in
the
hand
and
go
forward?
I
I
guess
I
just
keep
thinking
and
you
kind
of
alluded
to
this
mayor-
we're
letting
the
perfect
be
the
enemy
of
the
good,
as
opposed
to
hey
there
they've
proposed
to
do
this
thing.
A
A
D
A
Right
if
they've
got
something
in
the
works,
then
then
let's
go
forward
and-
and
I
would
say
instead
of
I
don't
know-
I
guess
I
think
term
sheet.
I
think
you
know
what
I
saw
in
the
memo.
It
looks
to
me,
like
that's
a
big
long
list.
What's
the
bare
minimum
we're
not
doing
this
work,
what's
our
bare
minimum
requirement
and
let's
go
forward
jordan,
I
the
questions
I
have
for
you.
A
P
Great,
thank
you.
We
actually
we've
already
come
to
agreement
on
some
fairly
substantial
opportunities
within
the
city,
specifically
in
north
san
jose.
We've
got
something
under
agreement.
That
is,
you
know,
north
of
500
units,
and
if
I
have
the
opportunity,
you
know
just
to
correct
some
of
the
things
that
have
been
said.
We
have
tried
to
do
that
within
the
memo.
P
You
know
that
our
responses
to
the
memo
that
was
released,
there's
been
sort
of
continual
comments
made
around
the
lack
of
low
income,
housing,
that's
being
created
or
the
lack
of
below
market
rents
that
are
being
created.
There
are
regulatory
agreements
recorded
against
every
cal
cha
asset.
That's
specifically
set
aside
at
least
one
third
of
the
units
for
low
income,
households
below
80
percent
of
median
income
and,
while
jackie
referenced
some
calculations
based
on
santa
clara
county
amis,
which
are
some
of
the
highest
amis
in
the
country.
P
So
if
you
just
you
know,
it's
just
math.
If
you
just
calculate
what
the
maximum
hypothetical
rent
could
be,
it's
irrelevant.
You
know,
given
that
at
least
two-thirds
of
the
units
within
the
projects
that
we
have
been
acquiring
and
converting
are
significantly
below
market
from
day
one
in
most
cases,
even
at
the
120
percent
level.
Even
if
those
rents
are
capped
by
market
forces,
we
additionally
reduce
those
rents.
P
Just
given
that
there's
some,
you
know
extra
burden
at
the
asset
level
around
qualifying
households
which
don't
exist
at
market
rate
properties,
and
so
the
give
and
take
there
is
that
we
try
to
reduce
those
rents
as
well,
so
sorry
for
the
more
long-winded
response,
but
we
absolutely
have
not
only
existing
assets
that
we
could
close
in
the
first
quarter
here,
but
there's
also
development
opportunities
that
we're
looking
at
that.
You
know
to
the
extent
that
rena
is
a
primary
concern.
P
We
are
yes,
I
mean
that
was
another
thing
that
was
mentioned
in
the
memo
that
there
was
a
view
that
new
construction-
or
you
know
heavy
redevelopment-
doesn't
work
and
that's
absolutely
not
the
case-
we're
under
agreement
in
in
southern
california
on
a
large
project
that
is
going
to
be
more
than
100
000
per
unit
redevelopment,
and
we
are
just
about
to
sign
up
our
first
new
construction
opportunities
as
well.
There's
no
subsidy
in
these
transactions
that
was
sort
of
referenced
in
the
memo
that
subsidy
would
be
required
for
new
construction.
P
Sure
yeah,
we
have
flexibility,
but
the
regulatory
agreement
that
has
been
utilized
for
every
single
cal
cha
acquisition
to
date.
There
have
been
four
closed.
There
will
be
one
more
closed
in
the
first
quarter
and
every
one
of
them
is
the
same.
Thus
far.
At
least
one-third
of
the
units
are
set
aside
for
low-income
households.
P
You
know
who
earn
below
80
immediate
income,
at
least
one-third
for
median
income,
households
who
earn
below
100
of
ami
and
the
final
third
for
moderate
income,
households
who
earn
up
to,
but
not
in
excess
of
120
ami.
So
if
we
hit
the
third
or
third
a
third,
you
know
the
average
would
be
100,
obviously,
but
even
at
that
100
percent
level.
To
be
clear-
and
to
reiterate
we
are,
you
know,
regardless
of
the
mathematical
output
of
an
equation,
that's
based
on
county
level,
amis.
A
P
Cha
to
date
has
closed
on
four
properties.
They
will
close
on
a
fifth
in
the
first
quarter.
It
should
have
already
closed
this
year,
but
there
was
an
unforeseen
incident
at
the
asset
that
had
nothing
to
do
with
us
and
then,
as
I
mentioned,
you
know
we
have
an
agreement
on
something
in
san
jose.
Should
we
be
able
to
receive
approvals
that
we
could
close
in
the
first
quarter.
P
We
have
were
under
agreement
on
a
large
transaction
in
southern
california
and
there's
a
host
of
other
opportunities
for
us
in
the
first
and
second
quarter,
based
on
the
fact
that
we
now
have
19
members
of
cal
cha,
we've
been
unanimously
approved
in
every
one
of
those
jurisdictions.
We've
been
welcomed
with
open
arms
people
are
excited
that
we
have
a
solution
to
the
middle
income
housing
crisis,
there's
a
reason
why
it's
called
the
missing
middle.
P
There
are
no
subsidies
or
motivations
to
create
that
form
of
housing
and
every
one
of
these
cities,
where
we've
been
unanimously
approved.
Not
one
dissenting
vote
has
realized
that
there
is
no
risk
to
the
city.
There
is
an
immediate
production
of
drastically
needed
low
market
rate
housing
and
there
is
long-term
financial
upside
to
the
city
through
the
granting
of
all
of
the
embedded
economics
to
the
city.
A
Thank
you.
Those
are
all
my
questions
for
now
I
just
I
would
I
would
support
if
council
member
campus
wanted
to
put
a
motion
forward.
I
I
would
support
this
going
on
december
15th
to
to
the
council,
because
I
think
look
jordan's
telling
us
he's
already
got
a
project
or
a
property
to
be
able
to
acquire.
We've
talked
about
the
fact
that
we
have
an
upcoming
eviction
possible
eviction
crisis.
That's
not
only
going
to
impact
our
lowest
of
the
low
income.
It
is
also
going
to
impact
our
moderate
income.
A
I've
spoken
about
that
at
previous
council
meetings,
I'm
very
concerned
about
it
and
I
and
I
gotta
say
you
know
the
the
middle
income.
People
are
the
people
who
suffer
greatest
because
there
are
no
subsidies.
It's
as
jordan
said
it's
called
the
missing
middle
for
a
reason.
When
their
kids
go
to
college,
they
don't
necessarily
they
don't.
A
You
know
they
can
apply
for
the
pell
grant,
but
they
don't
qualify
so
they're
taking
out
big
loans
they're
to
get
their
kids
to
go
to
college.
They,
you
know,
have
a
hard
time
buying
a
house
in
especially
here
in
this.
In
this
valley,
because
it
is
so
expensive-
they're
not
necessarily
going
to
qualify
because
they
can't
get
to
a
six-figure
down
payment.
This
is
these.
Are
the
people
we're
talking
about?
And
I
know
you
know-
people
talk
about
nurses
and
teachers
and
firefighters,
it's
nurses
and
teachers
and
firefighters,
it's
it's
administrative
assistants.
A
These
are
people,
we
need
in
our
valley
to
keep
us
going
and
we
haven't
done
anything
we
just
very
simply.
We
have
not
done
anything
and
we've
got
someone
here
saying
we
can
do
it
and
we're
we've
already
done
it
four
times
and
and
it's
passed
unanimously
and
I
think
you
said
17
17
other
jurisdictions.
I
understand
that
we
would
be
the
the
largest,
but
I
just
think
bird
in
the
hand-
let's
do
it
so
I'm
on.
L
Board
so
mayor
can,
can
I
just
say
something
you
know
to
reiterate
on
what
jackie
was
saying:
we're
not
we're
not
opposed
to
the
product
at
all.
It's
just
a
question
of
absolute
capacity.
The
15th
of
december
is
13
days
from
now.
If
you
want
us
to
take
action,
you
expect
to
see
a
staff
report.
Somebody
has
to
write
that
staff
report.
Somebody
has
to
review
the
legal
documents.
If
you're
coming
forward
with
the
jpa,
we
literally
have
no
bandwidth.
Our
staff
are
working
12
13.
L
A
Can
I
clarify
you've
already
written
it
it's
here.
The
entire
council
hasn't
had
a
chance
to
weigh
in
on
this,
and
we
can
weigh
in
on
it
and
ask
you
to
go
forward
and
to
do
that
work.
We
can't
direct
you
at
council.
We
can't
direct
you
at
rules
to
do
all
that
work,
I'm
not
asking
for
that.
I'm
asking
for
the
full
council
to
evaluate
what
we
have.
L
I
I
just
the
workload's
becoming
unbearable.
I
just
need
to
tell
you
that
and
we're
starting
to
have
staff
that
are
just
saying.
They're
done
so
I
I
just
you
need
to
be
honest
about
the
ability
for
us
to
get
work
done
in
a
reasonable
amount
of
time,
and
you
know
part
of
our
product
is
we're
trying
to
bring
back
to
you
a
half
billion
dollar
airport
refunding.
You
got
zero
people
moving
through
the
airport
right
now.
L
That's
a
pretty
high
priority
project
to
create
some
savings
for
the
airport,
real,
meaningful
savings,
so
that
we
don't
have
an
issue
with
their
1.2
billion
dollars
in
debt
outstanding.
So
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
we're
trying
to
weigh
in
order
for
the
risk
to
the
organization
and
putting
resources
in
place,
and
as
lee
mentioned,
I
have
a
whole
host
of
team
members
working
on
all
the
cares
act,
stuff,
making
sure
we're
in
compliance
and
keeping
everything
in
in
check.
You
know
that
have
been
diverted
from
other
resources
and
other
work
efforts,
so.
C
Yeah
characters
probe
a
little
bit
on
that.
I
understand
we
could
spend
hours
and
hours
trying
to
assess
the
potential
risks
financially
of
any
of
these
arrangements.
But
why
couldn't
this
simply
be
solved
with
a
condition
that
we'd
put
into
any
term
sheet
or
any
agreement
as
a
condition
to
join
any
jpa?
There's
no
recourse
to
the
city
and
put
in
all
the
boilerplate
language
that
we
would
put
in
that
when
we
do
all
these
tougher
hearings,
for
example,
right
whatever
it
might
be,
that
constrains
or
eliminates
risk
and
liability
for
the
city?
C
L
And
back
to
jackie's
point:
it's
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
right
people
in
the
room.
So
we
make
that
list
and
bring
it
forward.
And
you
know
everybody
keeps
talking
about
that.
There's
no
subsidy!
Don't
forget
the
fact
that
this
these
projects
no
longer
pay
property
taxes,
so
that
is
an
indirect
subsidy
that
the
city
and
the
other
entities
in
the
county
won't
be
receiving
property
tax.
So
there
is
to
some
level
a
subsidy
of
the
projects
which
helps
make
these
project
pencil
because
they're
not
paying
property
fees
as.
C
C
B
So
just
to
clarify-
and
I
just
I
think
if
it
is
simply
the
memo
in
front
of
you
now-
bringing
that
forward
for
direction
to
continue
to
explore
this-
whether
it's
the
8th
or
the
15th,
and
if
it's
the
memo,
that's
already
been
done,
I
think
that's
possible.
That's
totally
fine.
I
think,
as
as
jackie
had
said,
whether
it's
an
rfi
workload
analysis
or
actually
joining.
E
Chemist
yeah:
well,
I'm
I'm
I'm
about
to
make
a
substitute
motion,
but
I
I
also
understand
that
this
this
you
know
this
idea
has
been
in
front
of
housing
for
three
years
and
I've.
I
am
understanding
that
the
the
legal
department
already
weighed
in
on
this
and
and
maybe
nora,
could
could
let
me
know
you
know.
Jordan.
Jordan
basically
told
me
that
the
legal
department
weighed
in
on
this
two
years
ago.
F
E
I'd
really
like
that,
because
because
I
know
for
a
fact
that
this
is
not
a
a
brand
new
idea,
it's
a
brand
new
idea
for
me
quite
frankly,
but
not
for
jackie,
certainly,
and
and
not
for
our
staff.
It's
an
idea,
that's
come
to
fruition
and
has
been
tried
in
other
cities,
and
I
I
and
I
think
it's
19,
not
not
17
cities,
they
have
active
proposals
and
I
think
we
need
to
do.
We
need
to
treat
this
like.
E
We
did
for
the
pace
program,
how
much
rfps
and
how
much
time
did
we
spend
for
the
pace
program
and
that's
the
the
one
that
we
allow
to
exist
in
the
city
of
san
jose.
You
know
to
to
actually
do
to
go
on
people's
tax
rolls
and
we
we
allow
those
to
happen.
We
allowed.
For
example,
we
allow
all
these
school
districts,
the
tefra
hearings,
all
all
of
these
schools
that
that
depend
on
us
as
a
pass
through
a
ministerial
role.
E
E
I'd
like
to
evaluate
that
program,
those
other
companies
that
want
to
do
business
in
san
jose
could
submit
their
own
programs
and
I'm
and
I'm
agnostic
as
to
their
to
whether
they
end
up
doing
business
here
or
not.
But
but
to
me
this
is
a
it's
not
a
good
opportunity.
It's
a
fantastic
opportunity
and
I
think
would
be
we
would
be
kind
of.
F
A
K
Thank
you.
I
know
how
to
count
to
three,
so
I'm
not
going
to
put
too
much
into
this
argument,
but
I
did
want
to
clarify
that
the
people
who
are
suffering
the
most
are
the
people
who
are
out
there,
keeping
you
safe
in
your
own
home,
the
people
who
are
out
there
serving
your
food
delivering
your
food
transporting
people,
and
so
I
don't
want
this
to
be
a
conversation
that
middle
class
community
absolutely
has
some
consequences.
Of
course,
I'm
in
the
I'm
a
middle-class
family.
K
I
have
consequences
because
of
this
pandemic,
but
I
don't
pretend
to
be
the
the
one
that
suffers
the
most.
I
know
who
is
suffering
the
most
and
that's
the
poorest
of
our
community,
and
I
haven't
seen
such
capriciousness
in
in
putting
something
forward
when,
when
staff-
and
I
have
never
heard
from
staff-
tell
you
that
there's
the
the
the
level
of
work
is
so
unbearable
and
that
you
still
want
to
strong-arm
our
staff
in
a
matter
of
15
days,
because
you
can't
wait
15
days
for
this
matter
to
be
in
front
of
you.
K
And
so
that
is,
that
is
not
the
way
to
treat
our
department
is
absolutely
not
the
way
to
treat
our
department.
I'm
really
just
really
disappointed
that
you're
you're,
going
to
take
the
first
taker,
have
a
have
some
analysis
go
with
that.
I
didn't
know
that
the
first
taker
by
any
of
our
proposals
are
the
first
ones
that
we
go
with.
K
I
don't
know
why
I
I
can
understand-
and
I
agree
with
you
mayor-
that
we
should
have
a
straighter
line
to
this,
and
I
and
I
think
our
staff
is
saying
they
want
to
do
the
work
on
this
as
well.
I
don't
think
they
disagree,
but
this
strong
arming
and
this
oversight
of
the
workload
that's
in
front
of
our
senior
staff
is
is
offensive
and
is
disrespectful.
C
Yeah
yeah,
I
just
clarified
my
own
position,
which
is
I
I
don't
think
we
should
just
take
the
first
applicant
here
who's
in
front
of
us.
What
I've
been
arguing
for
for
some
time
for
us
to
set
a
very
clear
threshold.
There
are
a
lot
of
questions
that
are
raised
in
this
memorandum
and
they're
all
reasonable
questions.
C
Because
I
think
the
current
plan
of
staff
is
that
we
would
be
off
in
rfi
land
and
I'd
describe
that
not
to
be
disparaging
to
staff
in
any
way,
but
because,
as
a
city,
we've
had
a
lot
of
challenges
through
procurement
processes
and
they
take
a
lot
of
time
of
staff
and
they
take
a
lot
of
time
for
us
to
get
through
them.
And
I
know
staff
is
absolutely
being
sincere
and
saying
we'll
get
to
it
in
march
or
april.
C
C
We
certainly
could,
but
honestly,
the
two
issues
here,
one
is,
I
think,
councilman
campus
makes
a
good
point.
This
has
been
before
us
a
few
times.
We've
been
we've
been
batting
this
volleyball
around
for
a
while,
and
you
know
I
am
being
deferential
with
the
fact
councilman
campus
has
been
trying
to
make
this
happen
for
some
period
of
time.
It's
his
last
meeting
you'd
like
to
actually
see
some
forward
progress
and
nobody's
asking
that
we
sign
on
the
dotted
line
in
two
weeks
or
they'll.
Have
it
all
figured
out.
C
I
think
it's
obvious
that
you
know
council
hasn't
been
hurt
on
this.
It's
reasonable
to
have
some
basic
council
direction,
I'm
not
looking
to
subvert
the
workload
of
staff.
I
understand
they're
very
high
priority
items
that
they're
on
now
and
they'll
continue
to
be
on
that
are
critical
and
they're
spending
a
lot
of
hours
on
really
important
things.
I'm
just
concerned
after
the
dialogue
that
I've
heard
on
this
issue
and
what
I've
seen
in
the
memo
is
we're
spending
a
lot
of.
C
We
are
potentially
spending
a
lot
of
time
on
things
that
we
don't
need
to
be
spending
time
on.
We
don't
need
to
be
second
guessing
the
opinion
of,
or
carrington
staff,
a
law,
the
law
office,
that's
widely
regarded
as
being
the
best
tax
experts
in
the
entire
state,
like
that's
just
not
something
we
should
be
spending
enormous
amount
of
time
on.
We
can
be
focusing
our
energy
on
other
things.
C
J
Mayor
jones,
thank
you
mayor
again.
I
want
to
let
julia
jackie
and
me,
and
all
the
staff
know
that
I
definitely
hear
you
loud
and
clear
and
also
you
know,
councilmember
canvas,
davis
and
mayor.
I
I
hear
what
you're
saying
as
well.
There
still
appears
to
be
some
disconnect
in
terms
of
your
expressed
desire
and
what
staff
is
hearing,
and
I
I
want
to
get
a
better
idea,
jackie
or
julia.
L
L
L
L
I
mean
that
project
in
santa
rosa
was
having
some
difficulty
and
has
already
had
to
have
some
infusion
of
cash
into
it
in
order
to
make
sure
that
it
didn't
default
on
some
of
their
payments.
So
it's
looking
at
those
kinds
of
things
I
mean
this
first
project
that
was
issued.
The
santa
rosa
project
was
just
issued
in
2019,
so
it's
not
like
there's
a
whole
history
of
a
bunch
of
projects
out
there
that
we
can
look
at
and
see
how
they
performed
how
they
maintained
their.
L
You
know
their
maintenance
levels
of
those
projects
over
time,
so
we
would
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
triggers
so
that
you
don't
end
up
with
a
project
that
now
is
no
longer
attractive
to
market
rate
people
right
because
it
doesn't
have
the
amenities
it
had
when
they
moved
in
because
they
weren't
maintained.
So
it's
those
kinds
of
things
that
we
would
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
maintaining
the
product
standard
in
which
it
was
acquired,
so
I
mean,
and
how?
How
do
you
put
all
those
into
words
right?
J
L
Yeah,
I
mean
I
mean
10
years
from
now
the
council
member
who's
a
pro
this
project's
districted
in
isn't
going
to
be
happy
if
it's
been
a
run-down
condition
right.
So
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know,
because
we
lended
our
our
public
benefit
to
the
this
project.
In
order
for
it
to
move
forward,
I
mean
we
had
to
be
a
member
of
the
jpa
in
order
for
this
project
to
move
forward
and
it
basically
that's
what
creates
the
tax
exemption
and
that's
what
recreates
the
property
tax
exemption.
L
M
We
would
not
include
all
of
these
things
like.
Are
you
going
to
give
us
arena
credit?
No
they're?
Not
so
I
mean
they're
going
to
be
items
that
don't
make
sense.
If
we
go
the
term
sheet
approach,
which
again
is
fine,
we
don't
have
objections
to
doing
that,
but
even
thinking
through
what
would
be
in
a
term
sheet
and
is
still
going
to
require
some
work
between
finance
and
housing
and
the
city
attorney's
office,
just
to
be
really
clear.
What
what
we
should
even
be
asking
for.
J
J
F
D
F
Understand
but
I,
but
I
understood
the
concept
of
term
sheet
to
be
these
are
the
things
that
we
want
to
see
and
do
you
are
you
interested
in
that?
And
what
would
your
program
look
like
and
then
we'd
have
an
opportunity
to
evaluate
that
that
that's
my
understanding
that
we
wouldn't
necessarily
otherwise
it
would
have
to
be
an
extremely
comprehensive
term
sheet
if
it
was
just
going
if
it
was
actually
going
to
be
an
agreement.
My
understanding
is
that
there
would
be
these
are
the
things
we're
looking
for.
F
These
are
the
things
we
want
and,
and
we
would
get
those
out
to
people
who
are
in
this
business
and
and
see
what
kind
of
who
see
who
is
interested,
for
example,
some
of
the
things
that
we
would
want
particular
to
san
jose
that
have
been
discussed
under
a
particular
jpa
arrangement.
They
may
not
be
able
to
do
something
special
or
different
for
san
jose,
and
so
that
that
would
be
good
to
know
that
I
that
that's
my
understanding
of
this
discussion.
J
F
Well,
I
think
if,
if
it
was
to
just
have
a
if
it
was
to
have
an
agreement
based
on
a
term
sheet,
we
would
still
need
all
the
agreement
documents
right.
We
could
never
go
forward
with
a
with
a
housing
project.
Just
you
know,
with
a
with
a
what's
commonly
thought
of
as
a
term
sheet,
but
I
think
the
idea
is
on
the
front
end.
F
Can
we
say
the
things
that
we're
interested
in
and
see
if
there,
if
there's
a
partner
out
there,
that's
interested
in
what
we're
interested
in
or
do
we
solicit
all
sorts
of
ideas
and
information
from
people
and
then
call
our
way
through
that
that
that's
how
I
understood
this
I
may
be
completely
off
base.
But
that's
my
understanding
of
the
discussion.
C
Let's
say
we
have
an
agreement,
obviously,
with
whatever
party
it
is
to
join
in
jpa,
we
put
a
bunch
of
conditions
in
there
around
maintenance
around
portability,
etc,
and
they
breach
one
of
those
conditions.
Can
we
just
understand
if
there's
any
recourse
or
what
recourse
there
is
for
the
city?
What
remedy
there
is
with
the
breach
that
that
would
just
be
very
helpful
for
us
to
know
whether
we
can
simply
resolve
all
this
through
an
agreement
or
whether
we're
really
stuck
with
something
we
can't
control.
F
F
C
F
C
C
On
the
other
hand,
you
know
we
can
enforce
this
easily
through
through
a
contract
to
an
agreement.
I
think
that
means
there's
a
lot
less
work
for
us
to
do.
We
simply
mandate
what
we
demand
and
if
they
don't
satisfy
it,
then
obviously
there's
a
consequence
that
will
ensure
that
we're
made
whole
or
whatever
whatever
it
is,
we're
trying
to
achieve.
F
C
K
E
E
The
program's
already
been
accepted
by
19
other
cities,
the
the
legal
staff
from
what
I
understand
had
evaluated
it
two
years
ago,
and
I
realized
nora,
wasn't
aware
of
that
and
and
I'm
my
bad.
I
think
we
should
have
investigated
that
before
before
we
brought
this
up,
and
hopefully
she'll
look
for
that.
E
Yet
again
I
mean
I,
I
council,
vice
mayor:
we've
had
we've
had
this
missing
middle
housing
as
a
priority
since
2015.,
okay
and
we
haven't
gotten
any
this,
will
this
will
actually
move
the
ball
a
little
and
and
we
won't
have
to
be
responsible
for
maintaining,
and
I
I
and
and
quite
frankly
I
don't
believe
that
I
don't
think
that
somebody
buying
a
property
and
is
going
to
be
maintaining
it
for
30
years
is
going
to.
You
know,
take
away
amenities.
Necessarily.
E
I
could
tell
you
that
I
live
in
a.
I
have
a
homeowners
association
that
I
live
in.
I
have
a
that
won't
allow
us
to
use
the
swimming
pool
only
because
of
covid,
but
you
know
that
that
you
know
anyway.
I
just
don't
see
that
you
buy
this
class.
A
unit
put
in
you
know,
people
who,
who
who
can
you
know
who
are
having
trouble,
make
making
ends
meet
here
in
the
city
and
then
taking
away
all
their
amenities.
E
So
you
know
I'm
willing
to
modify
my
motion
to
say:
let's
discuss
the
criteria,
if
clearly
here
it
doesn't
look
like
you
know,
we're
gonna
pass
this
thing
on
on
the
15th,
but
I
would
have
at
a
minimum
love
to
discuss
the
criteria
for
moving
forward,
because
if
we
don't
move,
if
we
don't
move,
then
then
we
can
just
ignore
it
and
just
just
take
it
off
of
the
the
goals
and
and
just
forget
about
it.
I
mean
why
have
it
as
a
goal
to
create
low-income
housing
at
all?
E
E
E
I
wanted
you
know
I
wanna
I
wanna
if
it's
okay,
with
the
from
from
what
I
understood
from
the
mayor,
he
wants
to
set
forth
criteria
and
I
think
that
I
think
that
the
the
city
council
should
set
forth
a
criteria
and
then
move
forward
with
people
who
meet
that
criteria
and
if
it
has
to
be
done
when
I'm
out
of
office
so
be
it.
But
I
want
to
set
the
ball
in
motion
to
at
least
move
this
thing
along,
so
that
we're
not
waiting
another
five
years
and
say:
oh,
we
missed
that
opportunity.
E
E
A
M
I
guess
from
the
housing
department's
perspective,
I
was
struggling
when
the
mayor
said
to
actually,
when
council
member
jones
said
jackie.
What
would
you
include
in
eternity
and
I'm
thinking
gosh?
What
would
I
like
I'd
have
to
really
think
through
it.
So
my
only
concern
is
you
guys
are
going
to
have
discussion
on
criteria
without
even
kind
of
understanding
what,
because
this
memo
wasn't
written
regarding
like
what
are
the
issues,
one
would
want
to
negotiate
on
or
would
be
important
when
you're
thinking
of
implementation.
M
C
Well,
jack,
let
me
try
to
make
it
a
little
easier,
I'll
try
to
be
transparent.
I
was
planning
on
putting
a
working
on
a
memo.
Councilmember
canvas
and
I
talked
about
it
where,
for
example,
and
be
a
very
general
set
of
terms
where,
if
we
look,
for
example,
on
page
8,
where
you're
talking
about
property
management
and
condition.
C
C
So
we
basically
lift
that
right
out
of
your
memo
and
then
say:
look
you
guys
have
funded
tens
of
thousands
of
affordable
units
in
this
city
and
you've
got
conditions
on
that
funding,
around
management
and
maintenance,
and
I'm
not
saying
it's
all
cut
and
paced.
Lord
knows
I
know
there's
thinking
it
goes
into
this
stuff,
but
I'm
venturing
to
guess.
The
agreements
that
you've
struck
on
funding
in
the
last
year
are
probably
an
awful
lot
of
the
same
language
that
you
struck
in
2009.
C
So
you
know
again,
I'm
not
I'm
not
trying
to
minimize
the
amount
of
work
here,
because
I
understand
there's
a
lot,
but
I
think
at
the
very
least
we
could
set
some
general
parameters
that
can
narrow
our
focus
and
that's
all
I'm
really
looking
to
do,
and
if
people
don't
want
to
be
subjected
to
you
know
property
maintenance
requirements
in
their
jpa,
then
hopefully
that
means
there's
less
stuff.
For
you
guys
have
to
look.
C
E
No
mayor,
I
I
just
wanted
to
change
the
motion,
and-
and
I
agree
I
think
the
the
staff
has
actually
outlined
eight
pages
worth
of
things
that
we
can
actually
include
in
in
the
criteria
and
and
that's
where
I'm
heading
with
you,
my
you
know,
I
think
that
they,
they
rightfully
brought
up
some
ideas
on
making
sure
that
people
at
the
lower
end
of
the
you
know
ami
be
afforded
the
opportunity
to
for
housing.
I
agree
with
that.
E
J
G
G
It
is
trying
to
build,
you
know,
relationships
and
understanding,
and
I
I
find
it
really
interesting
to
try
to
bridge
the
divides
that
we
all
face
in
the
opposite
part,
political
parties
of
each
other
and
how
they
come
up
with
their
own
creative
ideas
and
the
work
that
people
like
oscar
are
doing
to
bridge.
That
is
fairly
remarkable,
and
so
I
wanted
to
note
that
at
this
time
and
how
we
all
can
try
to
move
forward
together
in
in
our
issues
in
this
life
and
it's
tough
work.
So
thank
you.
G
D
H
Okay,
good
again
yeah
I
mean
you
know
you
want
to
get
this
economy
rolling
again.
California
and
the
world
start
opening
up
businesses
and
stop
listening
to
people
like
london,
greed,
sam
ricardo,
gavin,
newsom,
probably
the
worst
governor
we've
we've
ever
had
and
start
getting
the
businesses
open,
open,
close
open,
it's
not
working.
How
are
we
going
to
generate
all
these
fees
and
revenues
and
everything
to
be
able
to
fund
the
city?
H
It's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
impossible
these
next
six
months.
I
think
you
guys
are
going
to
have
a
come
to
jesus
moment
that
you're
not
going
to
believe
you
start
doing
the
numbers
and
all
these
programs
that
you
want
for
everybody,
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
for
everything,
five
million
dollars
for
tasers
for
san
jose.
They
don't
even
know.
I
don't
even
know
how
to
use
a
pen.
H
I
H
Got
crime
in
my
neighborhood
we
got
the
helicopter
out
today,
again
home
break-ins,
home
invasions,
but
meanwhile
you
guys
talk
about
these
pie
in
the
sky.
Ideas
you're,
losing
your
minds.
You
guys
are
doubling
and
tripling
down
on
bad
decisions.
You
need
to
get
back
to
real
government.
You
need
to
you
need
to
get
these
businesses
back
open
and
you
need
to
reform
the
police
department.
So
we've
had
we
have
over
overnight
patrols.
H
So
we
don't
have
people
breaking
into
the
homes
of
80
year
old,
85
year
old
women
you,
this
city
should
be
ashamed
of
itself,
millions
of
dollars
for
the
homeless,
but
god
forbid,
you
put
a
penny
into
some
overnight
shifts.
I
know
that
the
captain
in
my
area
is
trying
to
do
this,
but
she
doesn't.
She
doesn't
handle
the
budget
city
council.
Does
the
the
police
chief
does.
G
G
In
fact,
the
process
needs
to
develop
for
all
the
city
commissions
of
san
jose,
to
consider
the
ideas
of
better
public
input
and
review
in
wanting
to
always
consider
better
public
meeting
ideas.
Can
video
public
meeting
minutes
or
simple
written
minutes
of
san
jose
commission
meetings
eventually
be
made
more
available
to
the
everyday
public
and,
to
conclude
a
new
us
president-elect
has
bought,
has
bought,
has
brought
some
interesting
new
ideas
of
healing
and
good
reasoning
nationally.
G
Meanwhile,
santa
clara
county
board
of
supervisors
went
through
serious
humanistic
deliberations
and
careful
thought
to
reach
important
decisions
by
june
2019
on
the
retainer
process
for
jails
undocumented
and
how
to
interpret
the
values
act.
These
decent
intentions
of
the
board
of
supervisors
may
simply
be
something
of
a
standard
bearer
for
the
future
of
this
country
and
for
the
border
regions
of
this
earth.
G
I
hope
marilocardo
can
learn
to
frame
his
his
few
important
ideas
and
words
on
this
subject
more
in
the
context
of
the
incredibly
decent-minded
good
work
by
santa
clara
county
board
of
supervisors
and
more
within
the
context
of
the
human
rights
civil
protections
and
immigrant
rights
ideas.
That
is
always
doing
important
work
here
in
san
jose
and
santa
clara
county.
To
conclude,
as
we
are
the
time
to
build
a
more
healthy,
open
immigration
system
that
we
can
all
share
and
be
a
part
of
in
the
future-
and
we
are
at
that
time,
thank
you.