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City of San José, California
Joint meeting of Rules and Open Government / Committee of the Whole of November 18, 2020
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A
A
A
B
A
A
E
Hi,
thank
you.
You
have
your
your
yearly
approval
of
uac
money.
You
know
some
of
this
money
is
going
to
be
going
to
the
shot
spotter
program.
I've
I've
tried
to
say
you
know,
I
find
the
shot
spotter
program
overrated,
but
I
understand
you
have
needs
and
concerns
for
the
cadillac
area
and
you've
had
public
meetings
about
that.
Thank
you
with
there's
axon
equipment.
You
know,
that's
a
big
eyesore.
E
You
know
a
big
red
flag
that
you
know
that
issue
is
coming
up
of
axon
use
of
body
cameras
and
tasers,
and
you
know
that's
an
issue
that
I
it's
going
to
be
coming
up
creeping
up
on.
You
guys.
I
think
people
are
pretty
tired
of
of
exxon
controlling
this
whole
process
and
we
really
need
to
question
our
future
body
cameras
and
how
it
can
be
more
accessible
to
the
public
and
not
only
that
what
are
the
safety
issues
and
how
are
those
safety
issues
for
police
officers?
How
is
that
inhibiting?
E
Better
policing
and
better
community
practices
of
sustainability?
All
of
that
has
to
be
really
considered
in
the
next
five
years.
That's
what
we're
going
to
be
going
through.
So
I
thought
I'd
warn
you
now
and
the
last
item
is
about
three
in
a
series
about
child
trafficking.
I
guess
issues,
and
you
know
it
sounds
really
important
and
meaningful,
and
I
think
we
can
all
agree
in
its
need,
but
you
know
that's
data
collection,
stuff
that
really
starts
to
inevitably
starts
to
be
used
for
different
purposes.
E
F
F
E
You
know
that
san
francisco
is
seriously
going
through
at
this
time.
You
know,
maybe
that's
a
way
how
to
address
poa
cola
issues
in
san
jose
with
budget
issues
for
the
next
year.
I
hope
this
is
applicable.
You
know,
budget
issues
you
know.
I
would
also
like
to
thank
the
mayor,
for
you
know
stating
clearly
we
may
have
some
serious
foreclosure
issues
and
overall
recession
issues
into
next
year
that
you
know
federal
funding.
E
Help
is
important
at
this
time
and
and
needed
to
be
considered,
and
you
know,
and
I've
been
saying,
all
fall.
How
we
need
to
be
open
to
that
and
open
to.
You
know
state
funding
mechanisms
that
have
been
trying
to
build
and
prepare
for
what
kovit's
going
to
be
for
the
next
few
years,
and
so
that
funding
is
really
needed
and
helpful,
and
I
I
think
it
just
can
create
a
harmony
for
our
community
and
and
better
address.
A
D
A
E
E
D
A
A
D
I
C
A
E
C
A
E
E
These
concepts
do
not
have
to
work
in
mutually
exclusive
terms,
with
new
4g
and
5g.
That
will
also
include
much
surveillance
and
data
collection,
tech
provision,
0
and
neighborhood
safety
needs
open,
accountable.
Public
policies
can
help
with
responsibility,
better
reasoning
and
more
open
democratic
practices
that
can
help
better
define
how
to
bridge
the
digital
divide
and,
more
and
more
generally,
work
towards
pre-covered
19
ideas
of
long-term
community
harmony,
sustainability
and
ideas
of
peace,
and
can
work
well
with
important
new
questions
of
demilitarization
and
how
to
begin
to
reduce
the
prison
military
industrial
state.
E
A
K
K
I
think
they're
very
important,
and
I
know
that
we've
seen
this
election
cycle
really
an
astonishing
amount
of
money
spent
on
negative
divisive
and
often
as
we
can
all
recall,
misleading
or
outright
false
advertisements
and
other
campaign
materials
that
have
come
forward
before
the
voters
and
that's
obviously
happened
this
election
cycle
past
election
cycles
and
just
to
give
you
a
sense
as
to
how
much
money
was
spent.
I
want
to
read
off
maybe
about
three
or
the
four
top
organizations.
K
I
think
a
lot
of
voters,
as
you
all
know,
very
well-
are
misled
on
a
variety
of
sort
of
topics
and
items
as
it
relates
to
some
of
these
mailers,
and
I
believe
that
to
advance
the
public
interest
in
fair
campaign
practices
and
and
and
restore
public
trust
and
local
government.
I
think
we
need
to
review
and
and
to
the
extent
possible,
strengthen
local
campaign
finance
regulations.
K
You
know
the
memo
is
really
meant
to
just
to
stay.
Very
bluntly
is
just
to
start
a
conversation
on
how
we
can
be
more
transparent
and
really
begin
building
the
public
confidence
as
it
relates
to
local
elections.
The
memo
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
every
single
point.
I
assume
any
of
you
have
read
it
already
and
you
probably
have
some
questions,
but
it
touches
on
disclosure.
K
As
an
example,
it
mentions
the
idea
of
bringing
forward
a
study
session
where
we
can
simply
provide
the
council
an
opportunity
to
discuss
other
ways
to
to
appropriate,
regulate
campaign
practices,
and
it
also
touches
on
the
idea
of
amending
the
scope
of
the
charter
review,
commission
or
committee
to
to
look
at
the
code
of
ethics,
section
607,
I
believe,
and
in
there
it
talks
about
that.
The
kodavac
that
shall
include
but
not
be
limited
to
ordinances
related
to
following
areas
of
regulation.
K
K
And,
lastly,
it
seeks
to
amend
the
scope
of
the
charter
review
commission
to
take
up
the
question
of
the
possibility
of
elevating
the
san
jose
board
of
fair
campaign
and
political
practices
as
a
charter
being
in
the
charter,
similar
to
the
planning
commission,
civil
service
commission.
And
so
you
know
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions.
C
C
C
We
have
redistricting
and
charter
review
commission
next
year
with
our
office,
so
our
office
is
gonna,
be
really
really
busy
next
year,
but
I
definitely
support
sending
it
to
bfcpp
and
getting
them
to
kind
of
do
a
lot
of
the
evaluation.
I
know
the
chair
of
the
bfcpp
has
long
argued
that
our
ethics
commission,
our
our
commission,
should
have
more
teeth
and
more
power.
Our
power
is
sounds
like
a
terrible
word.
C
It
sounds
like
power
hungry,
but
you
know
san
francisco
and
oakland
both
have
ethics
commissions
that
are
staffed
and
have
more
power
to
to
do
investigations,
whereas
ours
really
doesn't
have
that.
So
I
know
that's
something
he's
been
interested
in
looking
at,
so
this
is
a
topic
they
would
be
interested
in
and
I
I
definitely
think
the
conversation's
a
really
good
conversation
to
have.
G
Our
only
thought
is,
if
it
once
it
makes
its
way
to
our
office
for
drafting
and
things
like
that,
it's
gonna
take
take
some
time.
We'd
have
to
be
careful
with
it
and
there's
a
lot
of
legal
overlays,
and
we
would
probably
want
to
retain
someone
to
that.
Does
campaign
finance
law
to
be
a
consultant
for
us
just
to
make
sure
we
get
it
right
so
that
that's
that
would
be
our
biggest
concern.
G
A
D
Hello
members
of
the
rules
committee-
my
name
is
kevin
ma.
He
him
I'm
actually
just
a
resident
of
the
santa
clara
county
general,
but
I
believe
that
the
memo
that
councilmember
jimenez
is
useful
for
the
rest
of
the
county,
to
use
as
an
example
for
how
to
fight
against
large
amounts
of
money
influencing
our
electoral
system.
D
We've
seen
an
electoral
we've
seen
races
across
the
peninsula
and
have
settling
a
lot
of
money
coming
from
organizations
such
as
the
realtors
department
associations,
influencing
city
councils
from
san
jose
to
mountain
view,
to
san
mateo
and
as
a
result.
Anyway,
we
can
do
to
restrict
the
amount
of
this
a
lot
of
money
coming
into
it.
As
long
as
we
can
restrict
it
as
or
make
it
more
identifiable
to
the
average
voter.
We
should
be
able
to
make
our
political
affairs
much
more
representative
people
at
large.
D
We
should
be
striking
this
as
soon
as
possible.
We
have
seen
it
sounds
like
the
movement
towards
the
strong
mayor
as
well
as
federal
elections
initiative,
so
there's
great
interest
in
the
topic
from
the
general
citizen
about
how
to
make
a
city
council.
That
is
much
more
representative,
much
more
accessible
to
the
average
person.
D
D
Afternoon,
everybody
obviously
no
surprise
here
where,
where
I
fall,
I
think,
despite
the
fact
that
this
might
be
popping
around
because
of
the
last
month
of
the
campaign
I
spent
over
a
year
talking
to
residents
about
building
trust
through
our
political
system.
Talking
about
things
like
publicly
funded
elections,
because
from
the
national
level
down
to
us,
there
has
been
immense
amounts
of
distrust.
D
So
through
our
political
system.
I
think
this.
It
should
be
one
of
the
top
priorities
for
the
city
of
san
jose,
as
we
move
forward
given
what's
happened,
but
also
because
it
impacts
what
we're
able
to
do
in
the
future.
When
I
was
having
conversations
with
people
about
our
budget
process,
the
trust
that
they
didn't
have
in
our
political
system
made
them
not
believe
the
way
that
our
budget
system
was
working
and
how
they
could
implement
what
they
thought
was
the
right
future
for
our
community.
D
It
led
to
people
being
disenfranchised
and
then
pulling
themselves
out
of
the
political
process,
which
is
the
exact
opposite
that
of
what
we
want.
So
as
we
move
forward,
I
would
love
to
see
us
if
it's
extra
staff
time
set
to
this.
I
think
it's
rightfully
appropriate,
because
this
is
a
huge
issue
that
we
have
to
solve
before.
We
can
do
so.
Many
other
of
the
challenging
and
complex
steps
forward
for
the
city
of
san
jose.
E
Hi
to
quickly
try
to
offer,
hopefully
a
related
item,
you
know
with
all
your
redistricting
issues,
to
make
it
a
more
how
to
make
it
a
better
public
process
in
the
next
years.
I
just
wanted
to
quickly
remind
that
the
the
brown
act-
ideas
that
came
out
of
the
sag
meetings
the
past
few
years.
They
can
be
they're
really
interesting
ideas
that
that
maybe
are
being
used
by
the
mayor's
first
intentions
of
how
to
consider
public
meeting
of
the
redistrict
process,
but
those
brown
act.
E
G
G
So
I
urge
you,
regardless
whether
it
goes
forward
through
the
ethics
committee
through
the
priority
session,
but
to
move
council
member
jimenez's
memo
forward.
There
are
several
tenants
in
that
memo
that
I
I
think
that
are
very.
That
would
be
very
helpful
to
regain
trust
in
our
democracy
and
our
democracy
is
worth
fighting
for.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
I
urge
you
to
move
forward.
Thank
you
so
much.
L
Yes,
thank
you,
mayor
lucardo.
This
is
hawad.
He
him
district,
one
mayor
licardo,
you
and
I
had
a
brief
twitter
exchange
a
little
while
back
when
you
tweeted,
condemning
the
svo
racist
attack
ad
and-
and
I
asked
you
kind
of
what
you
would
be
willing
to
do-
to
curb
the
influence
of
independent
expenditures
in
our
local
political
system,
and
you
know
wisely
you
directed
me
to
citizens,
united
and,
and
I
definitely
agree
with
you-
we
can't
limit
this
money.
L
The
you
know,
1.9
million,
that
in
total
was
spent
at
the
city
level.
But
what
we
can
do
is
what
I
think
are:
common
sense,
reforms
or
common
sense
infrastructure.
Right
now
we
have
like
a
website
called
san
jose
political
mailers.
They
put
up
the
mailers
on
their
own
on
the
campaign
I
was
helping
out
with
our
volunteers
were
tracking
the
spending
on
their
own
fppc.
L
I
Hello
there,
elena
shive
district
six.
I
agree
with
council
member
jimenez.
California
has
the
fair
political
practice
committee,
but
does
allow
cities
further
agency
and
san
jose
has
taken
that
agency.
We
are
one
of
five
california
cities
that
allow
our
own
ethics
commission,
but
we're
the
only
one,
that's
not
linked
to
the
city
charter,
and
I
think
this
is
an
opportune
time
to
move
this
memo
forward.
M
Yeah
hi
there
thanks
for
having
me
I'm
here
to
district
six,
I
mean
he
him
just
like
based
off
this
last
election,
that
we
noticed
just
so
much
misleading,
so
many
lies
being
told
and
a
lot
of
really
awful
things
just
being
spread
out.
I
mean
from
every
side
in
every
direction,
but
I
mean
primarily
pointed
if
you
paid
attention
to
the
election
at
all
I
mean
I'm
not
going
to
say
much
more
than
what's
already
been
said.
M
I
mean
I
really
want
to
echo
all
those
points,
they're
very
strong,
very
poignant,
especially
in
our
election
season,
that
just
wrapped
up,
but
as
a
like
as
a
local
youth
trying
to
break
into
politics
like
this,
this
past
election
doesn't
inspire
absolutely
any
confidence
that
I
can
break
in
and
like
make
a
difference
in
this
in
this
local
in
local
politics.
It's
just
so
disheartening.
It's
so
intimidating.
M
To
think
that
I,
like
just
the
youth
living
with
my
parents,
I'm
gonna,
like
I
don't
even
know
what
he
told
of
me,
like
I
don't
know
like.
I
could
come
up
with
a
bunch
of
stuff
right
now.
It's
counter
campaigning,
but
it's
just
so
sad
to
see
how
this
works
and
it
really
takes
away
agency
from
a
lot
of
folks
who
otherwise
would
really
be
out
there
doing
the
work
getting
everything
done
and
doing
the
most
they
can.
M
But
when
you
see
all
this
money
being
spent
against
people
all
this
money,
all
these
lies
being
told
it's
just
so
it's
it's
like
you're
just
staring
at
a
huge
brick
wall,
and
unless
you
align
yourself
with
people
who
have
money
who
many
times
are
not
representative
of
common
interests,
then
you
just
fail
straight
up.
So
I
agree
that
I
echo
all
the
points
that
were
said
earlier
and
then
I
do
recommend
that
you
guys
look
into
this
council
memorandum.
M
H
H
H
That
said,
if
you
vote
for
chappie
jones
you're
going
to
bring
crime
and
corruption
to
san
jose,
and
so
that's
one
of
those
times
when
it
really
hits
home
that
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
misinformation,
a
lot
of
lies
that
that
come
out
during
campaigns
and
anything
that
we
can
do
to
mitigate
that
or
address
it
or
at
least
shine
a
light
on
and
make
make
anybody.
That's
participating
in
that
more
accountable.
H
Get
the
dialogue
going
and
in
my
mind
it
probably
is
the
bfc
pp
that
would
probably
be
the
best
venue
to
at
least
initiate
the
process
and
because
I
I
just
imagine
that
right
now,
with
staff
they're
so
overworked
and
at
capacity
that
there's
not.
I
don't
think,
there's
the
ability
to
do
any
meaningful
work
on
this.
And
if
it
goes
to
priority
setting,
then
it'll
probably
be
delayed.
Even
further,
so
I
just,
I
think
that
probably
that
going
to
that
the
board
would
probably
be
the
best
path
forward.
B
B
B
I
wish
they
would
be
more
transparent.
You
know
there
was
so
much
money
spent
by
the
teachers
union
who
my
my
wife
pitches
into,
and
and
goes
against
many
of
the
things
that
that
that
I
supported
so
I
I
get
it.
However,
I
think
we
can
be
in
a
lot
of
legal
trouble,
because
I
don't
even
think
that
the
the
things
that
we
have
currently
the
restrictions
on
the
dates
as
to
when
we
could
start
fundraising,
for
example,
the
limits
on
on
the
fundraising.
B
B
B
I
especially
don't
want
a
committee,
that's
politically
appointed,
to
tell
me
if,
if
I'm
sending
out
a
a
a
mailer
that
is
to
their
approval,
I
could
tell
you
that
I
went
through
this
committee
to
fi
to
lodge
a
complaint
when
I
was
running
for
office
and
where
I,
like,
literally
caught
the
one
of
my
opponents
red-handed
campaign
asking
for
money
before
the
election
cycle
was
allowed
to,
and
they
did
not
punish
her
in
any
way.
So
I
think
that
they
are
okay
with
some
people
and
they're,
not
okay
with
other
people.
B
So
there's
a
there's
potential
inherent
biases
on
these
committees,
if
they're
the
ones
who
are
going
to
be
adjudicating,
what's
okay
to
print
and
what's
okay
to
not
the
only
thing
that
I
would
be
supportive
of,
and
I
don't
get
to
make
this
decision,
obviously
in
the
future.
But
I
think
you
should
study
it
before
you.
I
think
you
should
crawl
before
you
run.
B
I
think
you
should
study
these
issues
and
have
a
have
a
a
you
know,
a
first
amendment
attorney
and
I
think
you
would
be
surprised
of
how
many
things
that
we
are
already
doing.
That
may
not
be,
may
not,
frankly,
be
legal
already,
and
so
just
just
that's
the
only
thing
I'm
willing
to
support
as
a
as
a
study
session.
F
F
We
weren't
portrayed
as
who
we
think
we
are
or
who
we
want
to
be
for
our
public
and-
and
so
I
think
you
know,
councilmember
jimenez
brings
up
a
really
good
point
and
I
I
think
he
did
a
really
wonderful
job
in
in
this
memo.
It's
it's
there's
a
lot
here
to
to
unpack
and-
and
I
wonder
if
he
would
be
willing-
because
I
know
this
says-
direct
staff
to
research
and
return
to
council
with
ordinances
that
strengthen
our
local
campaign
finance
regulations.
F
F
The
fate
of
this
to
me
seems
not
inclusive
and
not
comprehensive,
and
so
I
I
do
agree
that
there's
some
steps
that
we
can
take
before
we
commit
to
doing
all
of
the
research,
and
I
wonder,
if
maybe
that's
part
of
the
the
the
conversation-
and
I
think
councilmember
jimenez
you're
still
on
the
line.
Is
that
something
that
that
you
would
be
willing
to
look
into
or
that
you
would
be
willing
to?
K
Of
course,
I
think
that
my
expectation,
all
along
is
you
know
we
submit
this
and
at
times
when
we
submit
memos,
it's
either
the
choice
of
being
not
too
prescriptive
or
more
prescriptive.
Obviously
this
one.
This
memo
particularly
maybe
landed
more
on
the
prescriptive
side,
giving
a
date-
and
you
know
clear
direction
in
my
mind,
but
I
have
no.
I
have
no
fantasies
that
this
was
going
to
be
approved.
My
expectation
was
simply
that
this
would
again
be
a
prelude
to
a
longer
conversation
that
maybe
I
think,
warrants
going
before
the
full
council.
K
K
K
I
understand
that,
as
you
well
said,
we
can
come
up
with
different
scenarios
of
different
organizations
both
and,
let's
just
for
the
sake
of
argument
on
both
sides
of
the
aisle
right.
That
is
very
clear,
but
this
is
a
sincere
in
my
mind,
attempt
working
collaboratively
just
to
look
at
this
as
a
larger
issue.
There
is
no,
you
know.
I
tried
the
best
I
could
to
to
make
the
language
in
this
memo
working
with
my
team
to
be
as
neutral
as
possible.
K
I'm
not
trying
to
suggest
that
folks
that
support
me
or
other
folks,
you
know
or
or
have
their
hands
in
this
or
or
even
you
know,
attacking
the
svo
given
what's
happened
recently,
that
is
not
an
interest
of
mine,
and
so,
if
we
want
to
set
this
aside
or
send
it
to
a
committee
and
a
body
to
study,
that's
fine.
I
I'm
okay
with
that.
I
I'd
be
supportive
of
that.
F
F
I
don't
know
if
we're
the
most
appropriate
organization
to
actually
do
that,
but
to
have
something
where,
where
anybody
can
go
into
look
at
some
of
the
campaign
flyers
that
are
going
any
of
the
other
investments
that
are
being
made
in
forms
of
ies
or
any
campaign
disclosure
just
to
have
one
one
location,
it's
already
very
complicated
enough
and
and
to
have
to
look
through
the
different
systems
is,
is
just
muddies
the
water
a
little
bit
more.
So
I
I
would.
F
You
know
I
would
never
be
saying
this,
but
we
didn't
make
a
point
ahead
of
it
being
so
awkward
for
the
get-go,
so
anyways.
I
think
that's
a
really
great
place
to
have
to
begin
the
conversation
before
it
actually
comes
to
city,
council
and
and
have,
and
then
maybe
having
some
of
that
legal
impact
that
council
member
camas
was
talking
about.
I
don't
know
what
that
would
be.
I
know
nora.
You
talked
about
by
the
time
that
it
hits
your
office.
F
You
would
put
together
an
ordinance
right,
but
I
I
think
at
this
point
it
wouldn't.
I
wouldn't
expect
that
we
would
have
an
ordinance
produced
and
but
but
that
we
would
actually
begin
a
discussion
around
that,
and
so,
with
that
in
mind,
do
you
think
that
we
would
be
able
to
have
some
like
legal
guidance
for
the
commission
so
that
they
can
understand
what
to
what
to
consider
in
terms
of
legal
impacts.
G
F
F
Send
this
to
our
commission,
have
that
study
session
and
have
just
a
a
baseline
understanding
both
for
the
council
and
for
the
commission,
so
that
we
can
understand
what
are
those
legal
impacts?
What
can
we
or
can
we
not
do,
and
so
that
we
can
actually
make
some
decisions
about
the
the
rest
of
your
memo
in
the
body
of
the
memo?
F
You
know
I
messed
up
pp
commission
in
the
study
session
as
the
first
steps
to
addressing
this
issue
and
then
because
your
your
memo
at
this
point,
council
member,
has
directing
staff
with
to
produce
ordinances,
and
I
don't
know
that
I
would
be
in
that
place
to
to
support
that
just
yet,
because
we
haven't
had
that
discussion,
and
so
I
I
I
think
at
minimum.
For
me
I
would
be
very
comfortable
moving
at
the
very
least
the
study
session
piece
of
your
memo
sometime
in
spring.
That
would
involve.
J
I
Thank
you.
I
also
want
to
thank
councilmember
jimenez
for
for
bringing
this
forward
and
getting
the
discussion
started.
There's
as
as
councilmember
arenas
said,
there
is
not
a
one
of
us
who
got
elected
without
having
a
negative,
mailer
or
two
or
ten
against
us
and
having
gone
through
two
campaigns
now
or
four.
If
you
take
primaries
and
generals
into
account,
alliances
can
shift,
and
you
never
really
know,
and
you
never
get
to
have
full
control
of
your
own
messaging
as
a
candidate
because
of
independent
expenditures,
which
is
very
frustrating
for
for
all
of
us.
I
C
Out
they're,
not
current,
they
are
not
currently
full
there's.
Only
three
members
we're
pulling
the
applications
to
see
if
we
can
get
somebody
appointed
in
the
january.
The
interviews
in
january
we
have
another
person,
who's
got
a
term
ending
in
february,
so
we
would
hopefully
be
fully
staffed
by
february.
If
we
referred
this
to
bfcp,
though
they
could
get
started
on
it
in
december
and
then
usually
because
they
do
title
12
review
every
after
every
election,
so
this
kind
of
thing
not
outside
of
what
they
normally
do.
C
They
they'll
take
a
year
worth
of
referrals.
This
would
be
one
of
the
referrals
and
then
they
go
through
all
of
them.
We
would
want
to
fast
track
this
one,
because
if
you
want
a
spring
study
session,
we'd
probably
want
to
come
back
in
april.
So
that
would
give
the
new
members
february
and
march
to
also
be
part
of
the
discussion,
but
the
discussion
could
start
in
december.
They
could
start
asking
us
for
like
what
research
that
they
might
need.
C
This
is
a
normal
thing
for
us
to
do
in
the
odd
numbered
years
to
look
at
title
12
changes
to
because
every
election
they
look
at
what
went
right?
What
went
wrong?
What
can
we
do?
What
suggestions
can
we
make
to
the
council
to
make
it
better?
Okay,
part
of
that,
like
they
they'll,
look
at
all
the
stuff
that
went
on
this
election.
I
C
I
G
K
K
Just
very
briefly,
I
mean
I
know,
listen
we
as
a
city
are
dealing
with
a
lot
and
so,
for
example,
if
we
move
to
study
session
to
the
early
fall
like
it's,
I'm,
okay,
with
that
we
the
memo,
you
know
we
try
to
sort
of
come
up
with
some
concrete
asks,
but
you
know
I
understand
that
we
as
a
city
are
dealing
with
a
lot.
So
if
we
need
to
move
it
to
the
early
fall,
that's
okay
too.
K
The
other
thing
that
that
I
think
you
know,
maybe
folks
on
rules
can
consider
is
just
that.
The
charter
review
commission
that's
going
to
be
taking
shape
very
quickly,
as
we
know,
and
so
the
the
the
board
I'll
stop
using
that
acronym
as
well.
It
just
sounds
funny,
but
but
but
the
board
and
the
composition
of
the
board
and
the
structure
of
it,
and
maybe
the
the
lack
of
objectivity
by
some
folks
in
the
community
as
it
relates
to
the
actions
of
the
board.
K
I
think
that's
some
of
the
stuff
that
the
charter
review
committee
could
take
up
quite
frankly
to
to
really
evaluate
whether
one
it
should
be
elevated
to
a
committee.
That's
recognizing
the
charter,
but
also
the
structure
of
it
right,
because
I
think
we
all
want
an
objective
sort
of
body
there
doing
that
work,
I'm
not
as
like
anyone
else,
not
interested
in
having
them
doing
x
and
y
for
particular
political
interests,
and
so
that
may
be
a
good.
K
It
may
be
good
to
include
that
and
amend
the
scope
of
the
charter
review,
commission
and
then
also
the
code
of
ethics.
That
may
be
a
good
time
to
review
it
as
well
and
and
that's
in
the
memo,
but
I
know
there's
a
lot
and
it
sort
of
got
lost
in
the
conversation,
but
I
think
there
may
be
an
opportunity
to
touch
some
of
these
items
and
really
dig
in
a
little
bit
more
just
wanted
to
say
that.
Thank
you.
F
D
F
D
K
Do
some
of
this
work
as
it
relates
to
the
charter
and
looking
at
you
know,
additional
powers
to
the
mayor
and
on
and
on
that
they
may
take
up
the
the
the
task
of
you
know
evaluating
whether
it's
if,
if
this
board
the
f,
the
bf
cpp
is
important
enough
to
elevate
to
be
established
in
the
charter
and
and
give
it
more
credibility.
I
think
and
more
objectivity
to
a
certain
extent.
So
that's
what
the
idea
was.
F
G
F
F
I
don't
know
what
my
colleagues
think
of
it,
but
if
it's
not
too
much
to
add
to
the
commission
to
review,
I
think
it's
something
that
we
we
could
consider
either
here
now
at
rules
or
we
can
take
it
to
council
and
hear
what
the
rest
of
our
council
members.
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
what
what
the
rules
commission
I'm
into
what
the
rules.
My
colleagues
and
rules,
think
of
this,
but.
A
A
H
So
I
would,
I
would
be,
would
be
supportive
of
moving
that
particular
item
on
to
council
to
have
a
further
conversation
and
dialogue,
and
we
we
could
actually
get
more
information
from
the
attorney's
office,
the
clerk's
office
and
other
stakeholders
in
terms
of
the
ability
or
capacity
to
be
able
to
take
that
on.
So
I
would,
I
would
be.
F
H
F
I
do
like
the
idea
of
relying
on
this
commission
to
make
more
decisions
and
incorporating
that
commission
into
the
charter.
I
think
also
elevates
that
that
the
the
group
of
people
who
are
part
of
that
as
well
so
so
I
will
accept
that
that
revision
vice
mayor
and
hopefully
you
know
our
roles,
colleagues
also
support
it.
We
can
have
the
rest
of
the
conversation.
Like
you
said,
mayor
at
council,.
G
C
It'll,
be
it's
usually
somewhere
around
december
8th
I
haven't
calculated
yet
when
the
contribution
period
starts,
so
any
ordinance
has
to
be
in
effect
30
days
prior
to
that,
we
generally
bring
any
title.
12
changes
in
late
september
to
early
october
to
make
sure
it's
passed
by
the
end
of
october.
So
it's
in
place
for
december.
G
Yeah,
so
there
there
really
are
two
positions
that
you're
talking
about
to
some
extent
or
two
two
tracks.
One
is
broader
issues.
It
sounds
like
on
on
possibly
ethics
or
the
role
the
commission,
but
the
other
has
more
to
do
with
campaign
issues
and
those,
I
think,
are
going
to
be
have
to
be
decided
if
you
want
them
for
the
2022
election
they're
going
to
have
to
be
decided
earlier.
I
A
Are
there
questions
or
comments
yeah?
I
would
just
caution.
One
thing
I
think,
before
we're
convinced
we
need
to
go,
give
a
commission
greater
authority
or
enhance
its
rule-making
or
anything
like
that.
We
have
to
consider
whether
we're
really
accomplishing
much,
if
it's
the
council
that
ultimately
selects
the
commission
that
polices
them
and
I
think,
if
we're
really
going
to
think
significantly
seriously
about
accountability
on
ethics
campaign
issues
with
council
members.
A
And
that's,
I
think
the
worst
thing
for
us
to
do
is
to
create
a
veneer
of
respectability
and
independence
around
a
commission
that
is
clearly
selected
by
the
council.
We
better
find
a
better
way
of
picking
that
commission
if
we
really
want
to
authentically
improve
transparency.
Accountability
in
that
regard,
so
that's
my
perspective,
but
we'll
obviously
have
a
lot
more
to
discuss
in
the
weeks
and
months
ahead,
all
right
anything
further.
C
B
You
know
I
I
don't.
I
don't
know
what
we're
looking
for
as
far
as
necessarily
guidance
from
the
commission,
especially
on
its
own
powers,
and
what
they'd
like
to
do
so
you
know
I
honestly
it
won't
affect
me
much
because
I'm
not
voting
on
this
next
year.
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
warn
everybody
of
the
potential
political
pitfalls.
That's
all
my
point
was
supposed
to
be.
A
G
G
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor
vice
mayor
jones,
council,
member
jimenez,
for
their
support.
For
me,
this
is
an
opportunity
to
proclaim
that
systemic
racism
must
end
and
that
that
begins
with
me.
I
realize
this
type
of
recognition
doesn't
come
easy
and
that
there
may
be
steps
that
we
have
to
jump
through
in
order
to
accomplish
this.
G
H
H
There
was
a
lot
of
liberal
use
of
the
n-word
comments
like
I
bet
you
like,
fried
chicken
and
watermelon.
There
was
a
confederate
flag
that
was
written
next
to
that.
That
was
drawn
next
to
his
picture
and
he
was
one
of
five
african
american
students
at
his
high
school
lynn,
brooke
high
school
out
of
the
class
of
1800,
and
the
reason
why
I'm
telling
you
the
story
is
because
the
people
that
wrote
in
his
yearbook
weren't
bad
people.
H
They
were
actually
his
friends,
but
it's
a
it
was
a
realization
that
you
have
communities
who
really
don't
understand
america's
original
sin,
which
was
slavery
and
by
designating
juneteenth
as
a
holiday.
I
think
that
we
will
go
a
long
way
with
educating
enlightening
the
greater
community
in
terms
of
the
impact
of
slavery
for
the
last
400
years
in
post-slavery,
when
we
went
into
jim
crow
in
other
forms
of
discrimination.
So
I
want
to
again
thank
you,
councilmember
foley,
for
for
bringing
this
forward,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
the
support
of
our
colleagues.
A
E
E
It
was
good
to
hear
that
I'm
50
years
old
now-
and
you
know
I-
I
grew
up-
I
guess-
with
more
of
a
northern
attitude
and
feeling
about
things
by
the
time
I
hit
my
you
know,
mid-20s
to
40s.
I
I
learned
to
like
kind
of
just
accept
the
confederate
flag
and
people's
love
of
the
of
the
confederate
flag,
and-
and
you
know
I
was-
I
was
never
ever
gung-ho
about
about
it,
but
it
just
somehow
just
became
a
part
of
myself
that
it
was
acceptable
in
some
way
or
just
I
didn't.
E
E
I
mean
there's
a
long
history
and
chappie
jones
is
describing
you
know
how
we're
trying
to
describe
that
history
now
and-
and
I'm
I
thank
yourselves
that
in
the
place,
I'm
out
of
this
time
to
I
like
where
I'm
at
to
to
learn
to
you
know,
question
these
things,
and
so
thank
you
very
much
for
for
your
words
on
this
item
and
into
the
future.
We
can
hopefully
be
headed
towards
at
this
time.
I
wanted
to
quickly.
Ask
also
is:
was
the
consent
calendar
items
were
they
approved
by
any
chance?
A
G
That's
quite
all
right,
good
afternoon,
everyone,
my
name,
is
yemi
girma.
I
live
in
district
10
and
I
really
just
want
to
thank
vice
mayor
jones,
councilmember,
foley
and
jimenez
for
bringing
this
forth.
I
support
the
designation
of
june
19th
as
a
public
holiday.
I
work
for
the
county
in
the
county.
Just
puts
past
that
as
a
holiday
and
vice
mayor
jones.
G
Don't
touch
me
or
I'm
not
gonna
play
with
you
and
and
just
refer
to
him
in
that
word
and
dealing
with
the
school
addressing
that.
So
it
goes
a
long
way
in
affirming
the
history
in
this
country,
and
just
just
you
know,
really
learning
and
unlearning
the
history
that
we
have
learned
and
looking
at
things
from
a
different
perspective.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
that
forward.
G
N
All
right,
my
name
is
ernini.
I
live
in
district
six.
I
also
want
to
commend
the
council
members
for
bringing
this
forward
and
to
declare
my
wholehearted
support
of
it
as
a
nigerian
trinidadian
american.
I
really
appreciate
the
acknowledgement
of
this
history
and
believe
that
it's
part
of
a
strategy
of
having
a
better
san
jose.
So
I
want
to
commend
the
council
members
and
hope
that
our
city
can
continue
to
make
strides
and
advances
in
racial
reconciliation
and
equity
and
just
support
hold
hardly
this.
This
motion.
A
A
But
rather
we
would
create
some
kind
of
designation
process
so
that
city
employees,
who
would
like
to
be
able
to
enjoy
that
holiday
with
their
family
or
friends,
could
do
so.
I
I
know.
Undoubtedly
there
are
complications.
There.
We've
had
some
preliminary
conversations,
I
think,
with
java
shembry
about
that
concept,
I
believe
it
would
require,
I
mean,
confer
with
bargaining
units,
but
I
think
we'd
be
required
to
do
that,
no
matter.
What,
anyway,
is
that
right,
jennifer.
J
A
That's
that's
correct,
okay,
so
I
I
wonder
if,
as
part
of
the
motion
vice
mayor,
might
consider
a
consideration
of
that
approach
and
not
just
for
this
holiday
but
for
holidays
that
already
exist,
where
we
could
explore
the
idea
of
us
giving
it
designated.
I
think
the
number
is
11
today
holidays
throughout
the
the
calendar
year,
and
so
that
number
would
be
fixed,
but
if
there
are
more
holidays,
obviously,
as
we
choose
to
add,
we
would
give
some
flexibility
then
to
city
workers
as
to
which
holiday
they
would
select.
H
F
F
But
we
have
to
be
careful
that
we
don't
create
that
we
don't
that
we're
respectful
about
how
we
roll
these
holidays
out,
so
that
we
don't
make
these
holidays
just
as
one.
You
know
this
one
week
this
one
day
where
we
celebrate
the
differences
instead
and
acknowledge
that
that
that
there's
a
history
behind
this
this
holiday,
I
don't
want
to
pass
that
over.
F
That's
leading
us
to
this,
and
so
I
think
I
absolutely
will
support
this.
But
I
also
think
that
we
need
to
have
some
educational
piece
to
this.
That
goes
along
with
celebrating
a
holiday,
and
what
are
we
celebrating
and
bringing
real
meaning
to
that,
either
through
our
race
and
equity
department
or
through
our
human
resources
department?
D
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify-
and
first
thank
the
vice
mayor
and
council
members
for
for
reaching
out
to
city
manager's
office
on
this
issue
before
for
putting
out
the
memorandum.
So
thank
you
on
this
topic,
since
it
will
be
a
meet
and
confer
issue.
I'd
ask
that
the
direction
be
for
this
to
go
to
closed
session
rather
than
open
session.
And
then,
if
we
are
going
to
explore
some
possible
policy,
alternatives
such
as
the
one
that
would
discuss
just
ask
for
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
in
a
few
additional
weeks.
A
A
A
Thank
you
councilman
fully
item
four:
is
the
measure
g
work
plan
for
expansion,
the
authority
of
the
ipa
and
arbitration
reform?
There's
a
memorandum
from
councilman
carrasco
and
myself.
I
think
it's
relatively
self-explanatory.
I
know
that
we
have
discussed
the
first
two
items.
I
believe
and
some
substance
already
is
a
council
in
closed
session,
and-
and
I
guess
the
third
item
would
be-
what
is
would
of
course
be
added
to
the
work
plan.
Thank
you
for
the
early
consideration
response
from
the
city,
manager's
team.
G
Thank
you
hi,
I'm
I'm
a
resident
of
district
four
and
I'm
a
member
of
pac's
beloved
community
team.
I
endorse
the
proposals
made
in
the
mayor
le
cardos
and
councilman
carisco's
memo.
Our
team
is
proud
of
our
efforts
to
educate
the
community
about
the
benefits
of
measure
measure
g,
which
contributed
to
its
resounding
passage.
Well,
it
took
over
five
and
a
half
years,
the
beloved
community,
in
partnership
with
other
community
members
and
agencies,
have,
through
research
and
advocacy
motivated
the
community
to
support
increased
transparency
and
accountability
in
law
enforcement.
G
Thank
you,
elected
leaders
and
members
of
the
police
officers,
association
for
hearing
the
community's
voices
and
crafting
the
language
and
intent
of
measure
g.
The
actions
that
the
memo
calls
for
will
increase
public
trust,
demonstrate
fairness
and
ensure
safety
for
community
members
and
police
officers
alike.
These
actions
will
signal
that
there
is
no
room
in
our
police
department
for
any
officers
who
cannot
or
will
not
uphold
the
honor
and
dignity
of
the
office
and
show
all
community
members,
respect
and
decency.
E
E
I
think
that's
interesting
work.
I
think
you
know
the
peer
review
program.
Ideas
is
a
you
know.
It
offers
like
our
better
mental
health
ideas
at
this
time
that
are
basically
ideas,
we're
all
sharing
and
working
towards,
and
how
can
that
be
a
more
open,
communicative
process
for
police
officers?
I
think
I
think
that
can
make
their
jobs
easier
to
then
connect
and
communicate
with
the
ipa
and
other
people.
G
Hi
again,
my
name
is
yemi
garma.
I
am
a
community
volunteer
with
pact's
beloved
community
team
and
I
live
in
district
10..
The
overwhelming
support
for
the
passage
of
measure
g
signifies
to
me
that
the
days
of
police
reform
is
over.
We
need
a
total
foundational
transformation
of
the
public
safety
system.
G
G
We
must
not
pause
moving
investigative
powers
to
the
ipa
office
increases
public
trust,
demonstrates
fairness
and
ensures
safety
for
community
members
and
police
officers
alike.
Reforming
the
arbitration
process
signals
that
there
is
no
room
in
our
police
department
for
any
officers
who
cannot
uphold
the
honor
and
dignity
of
the
office
and
shows
all
community
members,
respect
and
decency.
N
Hello
again,
my
name
is
ernini.
I
am
the
director
of
compassion
and
justice
ministries
at
the
river
church
community
and
also
a
member
of
pact
beloved
community
team,
and
I
wanted
to
express
my
support
and
enthusiastic
endorsement
of
the
follow-up
actions
to
measure
g
proposed
by
the
council,
members,
carrasco
and
mayor
lucardo,
and
to
state
that
in
my
community-
and
it's
also
true
for
san
jose
measure
g
pass
with
overwhelming
support.
N
And
so
I
want
to
underscore
that
it's
now
the
time
to
just
continue
that
good
work.
I
led
a
protest
at
the
very
end
of
may
that
most
of
my
church
community
attended
and
from
that
protest.
It
ended
when
we
were
fired
upon
by
the
san
jose
police.
So
I
just
want
to
underscore
that
the
transfer
of
investigative
powers
to
the
ipa,
it
builds
public
trust
and
it's
a
positive
step
to
demonstrate
the
fairness
and
safety
for
both
community
members
and
for
the
police
as
a
primary
objective
of
our
city.
N
Additionally,
the
reforming
of
the
arbitration
process
that
was
mentioned
there
conveys
to
both
police
and
the
community
that
san
jose
has
a
commitment
to
this
reimagined
public
safety.
It
signals
that
there's
no
room,
no
tolerance
in
our
police
department
for
any
officers
who
cannot
show
all
community
members,
dignity
and
respect
and
grace,
nor
who
fail
to
uphold
their
the
honor
and
dignity
of
that
office
and
their
sacred
oath
of
office.
A
A
A
Secondly,
the
the
issue
with
regard
to
this
arbitration
process.
You
know
this
became
a
flash
point
here
in
san
jose.
After
I
think
at
the
time
his
deputy
chief,
eddie,
garcia
and
chief
terminated
an
officer
for
racially
menacing
comments
that
were
being
made
by
twitter
via
twitter
and
an
uncountable,
unelected
arbitrator
reversed
that
decision
and
reinstated
that
officer.
Well,
it
turns
out
that's
not
such
an
uncommon
phenomenon,
because
we
know
arbitration
is
the
process.
A
That's
used
in
major
cities
throughout
the
country,
in
major
city
police
departments,
and
when
the
washington
post
conducted
a
study
of
37
major
police
departments,
they
found
more
than
450
officers
had
been
fired
and
reinstated
by
arbitrators,
often
with
no
judicial
review,
no
accountability
of
any
kind,
and
that
raises
again
grave
concerns
around
accountability
and
transparency.
And
so
it
seems
to
me
that
is
another
issue.
We
need
to
negotiate
with
our
police
officers
associations
required
by
state
law.
I
think
there
are
changes
that
can
be
made.
A
Certainly
various
commentators
legal
scholars
have
offered
suggestions,
for
example,
around
judicial
review
and
other
ideas
that
could
dramatically
improve
that
arbitration
process
and
give
us
all
more
confidence
that
you
know
simply
police
chiefs
can
get
rid
of
bad
cops.
That's
what
we
need
to
ensure
that
the
public
knows
and
that
we
can
actually
do,
and
I
should
note
that
you
know
more
than
one
officer.
A
A
I
think
every
officer
wants
to
be
able
to
hold
their
head
high,
knowing
that
they're
serving
in
a
police
force
and
which
only
the
best
and
brightest
and
most
committed
most
devoted
public
servants
are
apart.
So
I
I
hope
that
this
is
something
that
will
be
supported
by
rank
and
file.
I
trust
it
will
be
if
I
think,
if
we're
able
to
correctly
communicate
what
this
is
all
about,
and
hopefully
move
forward
some
real
reform.
H
H
Definitely
I
appreciate
and
support
all
the
hard
work
and
dedication
that
that
pac
has
done
in
terms
of
moving
these
initiatives
forward.
I've
worked
with
them
directly
and
it's
been
a
pleasure
to
work
with
them,
and
I
know
how
they're
focused
on
getting
something
done
right
away
and
we
all
have
the
same
objectives.
H
At
least
I
do
in
terms
of
having
a
police
force
that
has
transparency
and
accountability,
but
I
also
want
to
have
a
police
force
that
has
high
morale,
high
engagement,
proactive
policing,
high
retention
and
low
and
high
recruitment,
and
if
you
look
at
what's
happening
with
some
of
our
counterpart
cities
in
the
country,
you
can
look
at
atlanta
baltimore.
You
can
look
at
particularly
minneapolis
right
now,
where
the
state
of
the
police
force
is
in
disarray,
they're
losing
many
officers
to
either
retirement
disability
or
just
moving
to
other
departments.
H
There's
a
lack
of
proactive
engagement-
and
I
don't
know
if
the
road
that
we're
going
down
is
going
to
avoid
that.
But
I
think
we
should
do
everything
possible
to
get
what
we're
looking
for
in
terms
of
accountability
and
transparency,
but
also
maintain
the
level
and
relationship
that
we
have
with
the
saudi
police
department
that
compared
to
other
cities,
I'm
telling
you
is
we're
in
much
better
shape
than
a
lot
of
my
counterparts
that
I
talk
to
on
a
regular
basis.
H
And
again
I
don't
know
those
two
things
are
mutually
exclusive,
but
I
think
we
should
do
everything
in
our
power
to
have
a
fully
engaged
process
that
involves
the
community
as
well
as
the
police
department
and
the
poa
to
have
their
input
and
have
some
type
of
meeting
of
the
minds.
If
that's
possible,
to
come
out
of
that
process.
J
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Vice
mayor,
and
I
know,
we've
had
prior
conversations
about
this
certainly
appreciate
the
desire
to
have
this
part
of,
as
is
reflecting
in
paragraph
one
part
of
reimagining
discussion,
but
but
also
recognizing
that
the
nature
of
the
timing
of
the
discussions,
particularly
in
contract
negotiations
with
the
poa,
that,
in
fact
this
may
have
to
happen
in
parallel
rather
than
in
a
sequence,
is
that
is
that
your
understanding
as
well.
H
A
Okay,
I
just
wouldn't
wouldn't
want
us
putting
the
brakes
on
and
everything
until
because
I
know
this
reimagining
process
isn't
gonna
really
start
robustly
until
we've
got
a
chief
on
board.
That's
many
months
down
the
road
and
I'd
hate
to
think
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
even
get
to
the
table
while
we're
waiting
for
all
that
to
happen.
B
Yeah
and
I
and
I
agree
in
principle
definitely
with
with
the
direction
of
this
memo
as
well,
and
I
since
since
jennifer's
here
might
as
well,
ask
you
a
question.
Have
we
discussed
this
with
this
memo
at
all,
with
with
the
poa
and
and
try
to
gather
their
thoughts?
Is
it
is
that
dialogue
been
open
yet.
G
B
Okay,
because
I
I've
you
know
to
that,
I
think
the
police
department
is
undergoing
quite
a
bit
of
changes
currently
and
and
with
measure
g.
I
think
it
was
a
big
move
in
the
right
direction
and
we
I
I
think
we
should
thank
the
poa
for
actually
supporting
it
and
not
funding
any
opposition
to
the
there
was
no
opposition,
not
even
on
the
ballot
statement,
so
the
the
I
think
that
we
are
getting
a
level
of
cooperation
from
our
poa.
B
A
Obviously,
most
importantly,
they
need
to
be
able
to
negotiate
to
support
moving
forward
with
measure
g.
So
you
know,
there's
there's
been
a
lot
of
conversation,
obviously
with
leadership
in
the
police
union
about
measure
g
and
how
to
get
there
and
I
think,
incorporating
vice
mayor's
idea
about
lifting
the
cap
or
the
lid
on
the
authority
of
the
ipa
through
that
measure.
A
A
There
is
explicitly
a
reopener
in
the
current
contract
to
allow
us
to
go
back
to
the
table,
to
discuss
issues
relating
to
expansion,
the
ipa
authority
or
reforms,
and
that
was
something
jennifer
negotiated
in
the
last
contract.
So
there's
no
nobody
being
taken
by
surprise.
It
doesn't
mean
they're
going
to
support
it,
but
that
is
my
understanding
is.
Is
the
nature
of
negotiations?
People
don't
agree
in
the
beginning.
That's
the
point
of
negotiation.
The
hope
is
that
you
get
to
a
point
of
agreement
in
the
end.
A
G
G
The
other
part
about
the
ipa
taking
on
police
disciplines,
that's
something
that
we've
been
coordinating
closely
with
siobhan
on,
and
there
is
discussions
about
potentially
hiring
a
consultant
to
look
at
that
and
look
at
various
options
to
bring
forward.
That
could
be
a
little
bit
longer
time
frame,
but
we
can.
We
can
bring
both
into
closed
session
and
talk
to
the
council
about
both
and
time
frame
and
and
that
sort
of
thing
thank.
B
Understood
well
at
least
they'll
be
at
the
table
if,
if,
if
it's
a
negotiation
and
that's
and
that's
what
that's
why
I'll
support
it?
I
I
I
have
to
say
mayor
when
I
first
started.
I
think
you
were
there.
We
were
not
exactly
on
the
same
page
with
the
poa
and
there
was
a
lot
of
hostility
and
a
lot
of
things
in
the
public
weren't.
B
A
So
I
wonder
if
I
could
just
to
go
back
very
briefly
to
an
item
that
we
just
voted
on
a
couple
items
ago,
because
there
seems
to
be
a
discrepancy
between
what
I
believe
at
least
I'm
told.
The
motion
was
in
council
member
uranus
motion
on
the
campaign,
finance
regulations
and
what
was
restated
to
us
by
the
city
clerk
now.
A
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
to
work.
Clear
and
everybody's
agrees
on
what
the
motion
was,
because
it
appears.
I
I've
got
messages
telling
me
that
councilman
reigns
made
a
motion
for
this
to
go
to
the
council,
and
it
was
tony
who
articulated
that.
I
guess
the,
and
that
was
after
it
was
had
been
restated
and
that
tony
instead
said
it
was
to
go
to
the
commission.
F
F
You
made
it
simple
to
go
to
the
commission
so
that
so
that
they
can
then
discuss
it
and
and
then
what
you're
right
that
that
this
isn't
complete.
Because
then
count
I
mean
vice
mayor
jones,
you
added
a
bit
of
a
a
a
part
of
that
and
that
wasn't
that
wasn't
reflected
in
in
the
motion
and
so
yeah
it
it.
It
did
get
a
little.
A
F
C
Okay,
then,
at
the
study
session,
it
would
then
determine
if
you
want
to
send
it
to
charter
review
as
well,
to
add
it
to
to
the
charter
and
and
to
review
whatever
the
bfc
ppp
did.
You
voted
on
because
that's
what
my
understanding
was
okay,
so
that
is
incorrect.
We
need
to
make
a
motion
yeah
and
and.
A
C
F
C
A
F
A
I
A
B
A
A
Oh,
yes,
item
five,
forgive
me,
I
thought
I
thought
we
were
here
for
your
your
monthly
update,
but
we're
not
okay,
the
actions
item
five
is
actions
related
to
city,
employee
oversight
and
wisconic
investigation
is
a
memorandum
from
council
members
uranus
carrasco,
myself,
relating
to
code
enforcement
and
the
revelation
that
is
awful
crimes
related
to
when
jerry
joe?
Do
you
want
to
be
heard
on
this
one
before
we
go
to
the
public.
J
Sure
so
that
there's
two
questions
that
that
are
in
the
memo
and
I
want
to
take
them
up
in
reverse
order,
if
that's
okay,
so
sure
the
second
question
about
whether
this
is
whether
I
view
this
is
appropriate
for
an
audience.
So
in
terms
of
whether
this
isn't
appropriate.
I
think
I
believe
the
objective
that's
described
in
the
memo,
that
is,
an
evaluation
of
oversight
and
management
of
code
enforcement
officials
that.
J
Subject
that
would
be
within
our
purview,
so
the
charter
outlines
our
duties,
which
includes
performance
audits
and,
according
to
section
805b
in
the
charter.
The
focus
of
these
may
be
included
termination,
the
causes
of
inefficiencies
or
uneconomical
practices,
including
inadequacies
and
internal
administrative
procedures,
organizational
structure,
use
of
resources,
allocation
of
personnel
and
among,
among
other
things,
and
so
you
know
that
that
sort
of
language
makes
it
kind
of
fall
right
within
within
our
purview.
J
However,
there
is
a
if
the
question
from
council
is
more
specific
to
the
performance
of
conduct
of
the
individual
in
question.
For
example,
the
memo
does
make
reference
to
wanting
a
better
understanding
of
how
long
the
individual's
conduct
transpired
that
transpired
that
may
be
more
appropriate
for
an
investigation
under
the
city's
charter
section
at
site
in
the
memo.
The
focus
of
our
work
generally
is
on
processes
and
systems
and
performance
of
work
groups
or
departments.
J
A
Butterfly
there,
because
I
think,
you're,
referring
to
what's
in
the
comments
section,
not
necessarily
in
the
direction
right,
correct,
yeah
and
the
only
point
of
that
was
to
better
understand
how
long
this
was
going
on.
Not
that
you
were
going
to
be
auditing
the
conduct
of
william
jerry.
But
how
long
should
we
have
known
that
someone
was
out
there
using
the
veneer
of
official
status
to
exploit
other
human
beings?
That
that
was
really
the
question?
And
presumably
you
would
not
be
involved
investigation.
You
would
rely
on
the
investigation
performed
by
the
police.
J
Correct
so
again,
so
if
we
get
back
to
that
that
objective-
that's
kind
of
described
in
the
in
the
recommendation,
evaluation
of
oversight
and
management
of
code
enforcement
enforcement
officials,
we
could
do
that.
Okay.
In
terms
the
second
question
or
the
first
question
was
in
terms
of
reprioritization
of
our
current
work
plan
and
we
do
have
a
number
of
projects
underway
and
I
wouldn't
recommend
putting
putting
anything
on
hold.
We
do
expect
to
release
our
third
covert
related
audit
memo
related
housing
grants
in
december.
J
So
we
could
begin
some
preliminary
work
on
that
on
this
project.
If
council
would
like
to
add
it
to
our
work
plan,
the
next
project
that
was
coming
up
was
related
to
the
city's
sequel
process,
which
was
added
to
a
work
plan
in
august,
so
that
would
be
pushed
back
a
couple
of
months.
Probably
we
could
start
some
preliminary
work
on
that
mid
february
and
then
other
projects,
including
beautify,
sj,
pro
programming
and
a
few
others,
would
just
be
push.
We
just
follow
after
that.
A
B
Yeah
well,
so
I
so
I
understand
actually
this
memo
took
me
by
surprise.
I
haven't
heard
about
this
and
well.
I
understand
the
need
to
look
at
procedure.
I
I.
I
don't
think
that
it's
possible
to
root
out
bad
actors,
a
hundred
percent.
You
know,
I
don't
think
that
you
know
somebody
can
always
find
ways
to
take
advantage
of
their
authority,
and
so
I
I
I
appreciate
joe
being
tasked
to
look
at
how
we
can
improve
procedures
to
mitigate
that.
But
I
want
to
be
clear.
B
B
You
know
situations
like
this
completely
so,
but
I
am
willing
to
support
the
effort
of
investigating
how
you
know.
Procedurally,
I
could
see
you
know.
Maybe
anybody
who's
been
given
a
you
know.
Anybody
who's
been
like
a
survey
or
something
after
somebody
completes
a
inspection
of
some
kind.
I
don't
I
don't
know
but
or
a
hotline,
but
it
I
just
think
I
just
want
to
caution.
F
Thank
you
mayor.
I
I
actually
really
appreciate
that
you
brought
this
forward
and
that
you've
asked
for
this
audit
from
our
auditor's
office.
I
wanted
to
just
bring
something
else
to
light
and
see
how
this
might
have
if
there's
any
interface
between
the
the
the
work
that
was
being
done
under
our
priority
setting
direction,
which
I
think
council
member
prowls
had
moved
forward
and
that
was
to
shut
down,
bring
closure
to
a
lot
of
the
illicit
massage
parlors
and
those
were
primarily
happening
in
2018.
F
I
wonder
how,
if
any
role
this
code
inspector
had,
it
may
be
delaying
some
of
those
closures,
and
I
I
don't
know
if
they
had
any
any
role,
but
I
know
that
there
was
a
at
least
100,
if
not
150,
massage
parlors
closed
that
year.
We
have
about
18
that
are
that
only
have
permits
and
that
are
allowed
to
function
as
massage
parlors
and-
and
I
don't
know
that
we
have
any
additional
permits
that
we've
given
for
massage
parlors.
F
F
But
if,
in
fact,
maybe
this
person
also
took
part
in
delaying
some
of
those
closures
for
those
illicit,
massage
parlors,
maybe
contributing
to
the
difficulty
that
we
had
in
closing
those
massage
parlors.
I
wanted
to
know
if
they
have
if
they
had
any
role.
I
don't
know
if,
if
that
could
be
determined
through
your
particular
auditing
services,
but
it
would
be
interesting
to
see
those
two
things
kind
of
overlay
and
see
if
there
was
any
interruptions
in
our
operations
in
our
police
operations.
Due
to
this
person.
F
H
A
I
M
M
I
was
able
to
figure
out
how
they
were
also
tipping
off
the
tow
companies
in
regards
to
complaints
that
people
are
filing
with
code
enforcement,
and
I
found
that
was
very
shady.
You
submit
a
complaint
and
then
they
send
it
right
over.
They.
Let
them
cover
everything
up
and
then
they
send
it
back
to
the
city
and
nothing's
ever
done.
M
I
did
deal
with
william
gary
years
back
it
bounced
back
and
forth
from
the
code
enforcement
of
the
police
department
to
code
enforcement
of
the
city,
and
you
guys
know
that
big
mess
you
just
listened
to
me
for
years,
yap
yap
yap
about
it.
I
was
hoping.
Maybe
we
could
put
like
a
public
service
announcement
out
and
maybe
ask
other
people
that
were
affected
by
this
man
at
some
of
these
businesses,
massage
parlors
anything
involving
code
enforcement.
M
I
would
think
that
that
would
be
a
good
idea.
I've
also
been
doing
some
research
into
several
other
san
jose
police
officers.
Right
now
we
did
have
officer
john
thompkins.
He
did
arrest
me
out
in
front
of
the
pd
officer.
Tompkins
was
the
one
that
was
basically
the
drug
dealer
for
the
san
jose
police
department.
He
got
busted
with
firearms.
M
You
know
bullets
that
he
shouldn't
have
had
29
firearms,
I
believe,
is
what
they
took
off
of
him.
I
pulled
the
sunnyvale
investigative
reports
on
this
guy
and
I
started
going
through
all
this
stuff
and
it
is
absolutely
shocking
what
this
man
was
doing
for
20
years
at
the
san
jose
police
department.
Are
people
looking
into
this,
or
is
this
just
being
buried
the
person
his
co-conspirator,
that
led
them
to
officer
john
tompkins?
M
He
was
bailed
from
the
santa
clara
county
jail
on
christmas.
Somebody
went
and
spent
150
000
cash
to
bail
him
out.
He
was
found
dead
in
san
mateo
in
may
in
a
hotel
room
with
a
needle
in
his
arm.
Okay,
this
guy's
a
long
long
long
time,
snitch
for
the
san
jose
police
department.
I
would
just
hope
somebody
would
look
into
this.
A
L
A
I
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
I'm
I'm
sensitive
to
what
councilmember
kamis
said
about
not
being
able
to
you
know,
legislate
all
good
behavior,
but
I
do
think
you
know.
I
was
appalled
and
disgusted
when
I
read
about
this,
this
code
enforcement
inspector
and
or
official
and-
and
I
think
that
we
have
a
responsibility
to
our
residents,
our
business
owners
and
and
frankly,
our
other
employees,
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
proper
procedures
and
oversight
in
place
to
minimize
this,
and
you
know
prevent
as
much
of
this
from
happening
as
we
can.
I
Of
course,
we
can't
prevent
everything,
but
we
definitely
we
need
to
make
sure
that
that
there
are
protocols
in
place
to
ensure
that
this
this
doesn't
happen
again,
to
the
extent
that
that
we
are
able.
So
that's.
Why
that's?
Why?
I'm
I'm
very
glad
that
that
that
you
brought
this
forward
mayor
and
councilmember
uranus
and
councilmember
carrasco.
J
Could
I
could
I
ask
one
piece
of
clarity
based
on
council
member
arenas,
comments
and
then
your
comments
about
relying
on
the
d.a
or
the
police
department
to
conclude
their
investigation?
I
guess
I
would
be.
I
just
would
just
want
to
clarity
again,
because
I'm
assuming
my
work
would
be
our
office's
work
would
be
kind
of
done
concurrently
with
that
investigation,
which
could
take
quite
some
time
and
so.
A
Yeah
joe,
I
don't
know
whether
they
took
jerry
to
his
case
to
the
grand
jury
or
they
simply
filed
an
information,
but
I
would
just
assume
that
your
work
would
depend
on
the
investigation
that
has
happened
if
they've
already
announced
an
arrest.
It
tells
me
that
I
mean
there
may
be
additional
investigation,
but
basically
the
bulk
of
it
is
in
a
police
report
or
a
series
of
reports
that
hopefully
you'd
be
able
to
get
access
to.
J
A
Yeah
it
does
thanks
joe,
I
mean,
like
I
95
percent
of
the
cases
I
was
involved
as
a
d.a
that
you
know
the
investigation
was
more
or
less
done
once
it
was
time
to
to
charge
an
arrest.
So,
okay,
I
think
you'll
have
a
pretty
complete
record.
There
may
be
some
more
out
there,
but
I
think
we
just
more
than
anything,
want
to
know
who
should
have
known
what,
when
okay.
F
I
was
concerned
that
maybe
there
was
some
some
some
delay
on
their
part
and
then
one
of
the
things
that
I
actually
added
during
the
pispus
committee
was,
I
added
a
an
advocate
that
would
go
on
to
some
of
the
on-site
closures,
but
a
lot
of
these
closures,
joe,
were
administratively
done,
and
so
you
won't.
You
probably
will
just
find
a
letter
that
that
asks
for
those
property
owners
to
close
it,
and
they
did
that
that
way.
F
B
A
E
Hi
yeah,
I
wanted
to
speak
on
the
cod
work.
Ced
work
plan
that
it
will
be
addressing
housing
issues
into
next
year,
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
this
the
time
to
remind
yourselves
that
you
know
the
previous
practices
of
the
past
few
years
have
brought
us
to
where
we're
at
now
with.
What's
what
sounds
like
some
interesting
new
ideas
in
very
low
and
extremely
low
income
housing
ideas,
you
know
now
is
the
time
that
we
start
to
consider.
E
You
know,
there's
a
next
generation,
you
know
with
all
the
issues
of
defund
that
is
starting
to
develop,
really
interesting
ideas
of
new
housing.
You
know
in
fremont
the
cities
of
fremont
and
redwood
city
are
interested
in
themselves
and
and
how
to
better,
develop
such
ideas.
At
this
time,
casa,
housing,
advocacy,
they've
they've
the
past
few
years,
they've
been
on
top
of
all
of
this,
and
I
really
count
on
them
in
in
these
upcoming
ced
reports
about
housing,
and
you
know
the
the
middle
income
ideas.
E
You
know
during
the
election
year
I
think,
can
really
be
answered
by
by
mixed
income
ideas
and
to
explore
that
and
that's
what
our
next
few
years
can
be
about,
and
some
really
interesting
things
should
appear
as
interesting.
Things
are
appearing
now
from
the
work
of
casa,
basically
a
few
years
ago.
So
good
luck
in
all
your
efforts
and
what
we
can
all
help
and
always
listen
to
the
community
to
community
advice,
they're,
really
good,
with
good
community
advice.
Thank
you.
M
B
M
Okay,
thank
you,
everybody,
scott
largent.
I
a
lot
of
this
research
that
I've
done.
I
I'm
not
the
enemy
one.
One
of
these
days.
Everybody
on
this
this
panel
will
understand
that
it's
the
bad
apples
that
are
in
our
police
department,
the
bad
actors
that
need
to
be
disciplined
and
fired
and
basically
removed
from
our
department.
M
I
have
a
couple
reports
and
I
would
like
to
provide
this
to
you,
mayor
lecardo,
and
I
was
able
to
pull
all
this
from
the
court
files
and
since
you
were
a
prosecutor,
you're
very
familiar
with
what
I'm
doing
over
there.
I
go
into
the
file
viewing
room
and
I
look
up
different
officers.
I
look
up
co-conspirators.
M
Even
if
it's
sealed
for
one
of
the
officers,
I'm
able
to
pull
a
co-conspirator,
I'm
able
to
pull
their
police
report,
then
I'm
able
to
find
the
officer's
report.
You
guys
will
be
able
to
do
the
same
thing
with
this
code
inspector.
That's
a
big
problem.
I'm
going
to
go
down
there
tomorrow,
I'm
going
to
start
pulling
his
files
police
reports,
all
that
other
good
stuff,
which
I
think
you
guys
really
need
to
have
now.
M
This
officer
tompkins
right
here,
the
stuff
that
I
was
reading
on
here,
the
amount
of
drugs
that
he
was
taking
off
of
you
know
criminals
in
our
community
and
he
was
reselling
them
and
he
even
had
discounted
wholesale
rates.
If
you
spent
over
1500
a
day,
he
was
actually
mixing
and
manufacturing
date,
rape,
drugs
and
ketamine,
and
it's
just
shocking-
and
I
went
through
here
a
little
more.
The
nine
firearms
was
very
weird:
the
fact
that
he
had
altered
shotguns
to
fire
machine
guns
and
rounds.
M
I
just
thought
that
was
twisted
and
and
half
of
these
drugs.
I
have
never
heard
of
any
of
this
stuff.
I
mean
he
calls
it
dr
seuss
nasal
things.
He
has
all
these
prices,
they
put
all
of
his
text
messages
in
here.
It's
shocking.
I
have
it
in
hard
copy.
I
need
to
put
this
onto
a
drive,
but
I
want
you
guys
to
see
what
I've
been
researching.
It'll
make
you
better
politicians.
It
really.
E
Hi,
thank
you.
I
hope
you
can
have
patience
with
myself.
It
was
a
heavy
heavy
meeting
at
the
end,
and
I
have
a
few
heavy
words
I'll,
hopefully
be
responsible
with
it.
This
time
as
it
seems,
we
may
be
headed
towards
a
lame
duck
presidency,
a
reminder.
The
current
president
donald
trump
just
fired
a
very
decent-minded
defense
secretary.
E
It
said
with
this
in
mind:
you
know
I
the
work
I've
been
doing
with
accountability,
it
really
is
asking
you
know
what
can
be
better
bureaucratic
practices
and
what
can
be
you
know
just
better
open
communication
between
you
know
both
bureaucracy
and
community,
and
you
know
I
the
the
items
of
the
local
community
energy.
Yesterday
I
mean
they
were
really
flat.
You
know
what
we
what
you're
developing-
and
there
was
a
public
speaker
yesterday
on
on
on
local
community
energy
items
that
you
know
he
offered.
E
You
know
something
is
not
too
hopeful
in
our
future,
which
just
reminded
me
that
you
know
for
covid
happening
the
events
of
9
11
happening
for
the
economic
meltdown
of
2008
happening,
there's
always
an
event
on
the
horizon.
That
is
a
major
catastrophe,
and
it's
very
possible
that
in
the
next
10
years
we
may
have
a
major
earthquake
in
the
bay
area.