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MTC Quick-Strike En Movimiento Bike Boulevard Projects Workshop #3.
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B
B
B
All
right,
so
I
hope
most
of
you
are
familiar
with
this
project
by
now.
So
it's
called
quick
strike.
It's
a
it's
a
project
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
around
nine
months
or
so
with
the
public,
and
we
have
a
new
batch
of
designs
that
we're
here
to
review
with
you
all.
We
met
back
in
november
on
these
and
since
then,
we've
had
some
back
and
forth
with
the
designers
and
now
we're
ready
to
share
the
updated
designs
and
get
your
feedback
on
them.
B
B
So
here
we
have
our
timeline
and
a
map
of
the
projects
and
some
of
the
project
goals.
You
can
see
in
our
timeline
that
we
are
still
in
our
second
round
of
design
review,
so
there
will
be
another
round,
probably
next
month.
Generally,
each
round
of
design
review
is
shorter,
as
we
kind
of
narrow
in
on
what
we
want.
The
final
designs
to
be.
B
If
you
look
at
the
project
goals,
you'll
see
that
we're
focused
on
calming
the
streets
to
make
them
more
pleasant
places
to
ride
and
walk.
So,
even
if
you
don't,
even
if
you
don't
want
to
ride
a
bike
yourself,
you'll
still
enjoy
the
benefits
of
living
or
working
in
an
area
where
there
are
fewer
speeding,
cars.
B
So
now
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
a
few
things.
We
heard
last
time
as
well.
If
you
recall
we
did
this
mentometer
exercise.
If
you
were
here,
we
asked
participants
to
rank
the
proposed
treatments,
and
you
can
see
here.
If
you
can
read
this
this
small
word
here.
It
says:
chicanes
chicanes
were
the
number
one
treatment
that
people
wanted
to
see.
B
B
So
I
just
wanted
to
clear
that
up
and
emphasize
that
we're
not
adding
bike
lanes
with
any
of
these
projects
either
bike
boulevards
bike
boulevards
means
the
the
cars
and
the
bikes
share.
The
one
travel
lane
and
the
way
we
make
that
safe
is
we
employ
traffic,
calming
we're
not
doing
any
lane
reductions
here
either
and
we're
doing
what
we
can
to
minimize
parking
removal.
B
There
may
be
some
cases
where
it's
necessary
to
remove
a
spot
here
and
there
just
to
ensure
we
have
the
necessary
sight
lines
and
other
safety
issues
are
considered,
but
for
the
most
part
we're
not
moving
any
part
as
well,
so
the
treatments
included
in
the
65
percent
designs.
You
see
them
listed
here
on
the
right.
We
have
chicanes
bowl,
bouts
traffic
circles,
crosswalks
and
median
islands.
B
So
here
we
actually
canes.
You
might
not
be
familiar
with
these,
but
these
are
islands
placed
in
the
roadway
that
create
a
bend
in
the
roadway.
So
you
can't
just
go
straight
down
the
street
you
have
to
curve
around
and
so
that
that
causes
cars
to
slow
down.
You
also
can
see
here
that
they
may
be.
There
may
be
an
opportunity
to
do
some
greening
in
the
chicanes
same
with
the
traffic
circles,
we're
looking
into
the
potential
for
street
trees
or
landscaping
in
there.
As
always,
it's
you
know
an
issue
of.
B
Do
we
have
the
the
money
to
maintain
them
and,
and
that
kind
of
thing
someone
else
joined,
and
I
can
I
can
provide
more
information
on
that
a
little
bit
bull.
Doubts
are
another
treatment.
We're
doing
so.
Bull
belts
are
are
curve
extensions.
They
reduce
the
crossing
distance
for
people
crossing
the
street
and
they
force
vehicles
to
slow
down
as
they
go
around
corners.
They
also
improve
visibility
for
people
crossing
the
street.
B
B
So
this
is
this
picture
is
a
bigger
roadway
than
what
we're
dealing
with
here,
but
it
gives
you
an
idea
of
what
what
I'm
talking
about
the
combination
of
bulb
outs
and
median
islands.
So
these
encourage
drivers
to
slow
down
by
visually
narrowing
the
roadway
it's
kind
of
like
when
you
drive
through,
like
a
toll
booth.
B
Okay,
so
here
we
have
william
street
from
brookwood
ave
to
24th,
essentially,
and
so
the
treatment
here
that
you
can
see.
Some
of
these
are
already
existing.
You
can
see
the
median
islands
that
are
white
at
19th
street.
Those
are
already
existing.
It's
the
treatments
that
are
in
sort
of
that
grayish
color
that
are
new,
so
we
have
bull
belts
there
at
brookwood
ave.
Those
will
slow
cars
as
we
go
around
the
corners
there,
as
they're
coming
over
the
bridge
and
on
to
william
on
this
side
of
the
creek.
B
Then,
if
you
move
down
to
18th
street,
you
can
see
we
have
a
median
island
there,
like
the
ones
already
at
19th
street
and
then
just
moving
down
the
corridor.
You
can
see
we
have
another
more
median
islands
at
20th
street
kind
of
keeping
keeping
the
same
treatment
down
the
corridor,
making
it
look
nice
and
consistent.
B
B
B
B
B
So
you
can
see
here.
What
we're
actually
proposing
is
to
alternate
the
parking
right
now,
there's
only
parking
on
one
side
of
the
street,
the
north
side
of
the
street-
and
here
we
have
these
bull
belts
that
lead
into
parking
lanes
and
it
it
creates
this
weave
in
the
roadway
where
cars
will
have
to
slow
down
as
they
weave
around
there.
So
we're
alternating
the
parking
and
adding
islands
to
create
a
weave
to
slow
cars
down,
and
we
do
that
twice
on
this
stretch.
B
This
is
kind
of
a
long
straight
away,
so
switch
back
and
forth
will
hopefully
slow
the
vehicles
down
to
a
more
acceptable
speed
and
then,
as
you
get
to
the
corner
at
bonita
avenue,
we
have
some
bull
belts
and
a
a
high
visibility
crosswalk
and
then
a
new
traffic
circle
at
bonita.
I
think
last
time
we
heard
some
mentions
that
cars
were
turning
onto
william
court,
pretty
fast,
fast
moving
from
bonita
ave.
B
B
Yes,
and
no
so
the
traffic
circles
at
that
you're,
referring
to
on
san
antonio,
are
quick
build,
even
though
this
is
called
quick
strike,
and
we
initially
thought
this.
These
would
be
quick
build
materials
were
we're
going
for
more
permanent
materials,
more
hardscape,
so
these
will
be
built
out
of
concrete.
Hopefully,
some
landscaping
in
the
middle,
much
more
robust
than
the
ones
that
are
are
mostly
just
paint
and
plastic.
Okay,.
D
So
they'll
have
a
little
bit
of
elevation
to
encourage
people
to
actually
use
them.
As
designed
right,
because
one
thing
that
I
would
like
to
point
out,
as
you
were
saying
that
people
were
turning
from
william
on
to
bonita,
say
they're,
traveling,
east
and
they're,
going
to
turn
north
some
people.
Instead
of
actually
going
around
the
roundabout.
They
just
cut
it
off
and.
D
B
D
D
I
mean
circumventing
them
instead
of
going
around
them
as
they
should
they
just
go
this
way
right
and
that
got
you.
Oh
I
see
okay
yeah!
Potentially
we
could
look
at
even
at
this
location,
potentially
providing
splitter
islands
to
kind
of
guide
people
more,
if
not
in
concrete,
if
we
don't
have
enough
room
and
concrete,
but
maybe
with
some
striping
and
some
ceramic
domes
to
see,
if
that's
a
little
bit
more
uncomfortable
for
that
movement,
so
I
think
that's.
B
B
D
D
A
B
B
C
B
B
C
B
C
B
C
B
B
B
Another
thing
I
want
to
point
out
here
is
right:
now:
21st
street
is
actually
a
little
wide
for
a
bike:
boulevard
they're,
actually
existing
bike
lanes,
they're
really
minimal,
with
bike
lanes,
they're
five
feet
wide
right
in
the
door
zone,
and
so
you
can
see
here
we
actually
have
a
really
wide
parking
lane
and
we've
narrowed
the
the
travel
lane
quite
a
bit
just
down
to
22
feet.
We
have
a
12
foot
parking
lane,
which
is
quite
a
wide
parking
line.
B
D
Can
I
just
add
one
thing:
that's
a
little
bit
unique
about
that
one
intersection
at
santa
clara
and
21st.
There's
such
a
big
dip
on
both
sides
of
east
santa
clara
on
21st
that
that
people
actually
instinctively
slow
down
because
you're
gonna
scrape
the
bottom
of
your
car.
But
I
mean
they're
doing
a
lot
of
resurfacing
so
that
may
get
evened
out
and
fixed.
But
right.
B
B
B
B
D
A
Sure
yeah
pete,
if
I
can
just
jump
in
for
one
quick,
second
go
for
it.
We
thank
you
for
your
great
comments,
katelyn
and
just
for
you
and
for
any
other
folks,
if
you
are
having
any
audio
issues,
feel
free
to
put
your
comments
in
the
chat
and
we'll
read
those
out
over
the
course
of
the
meeting,
and
even
if
you
just
feel
more
comfortable,
adding
comments
that
way,
please
feel
free
to
use
the
chat
as
well.
D
B
All
right
and
then
just
heading
south,
we
got
this
one
more
intersection,
brookwood
and
then
we
have
the
pinch
points
again,
just
like
that
san
fernando
and
then
williams
street
down
there
on
the
right.
That
is
the
traffic
circle
that
we
already
discussed
when
we
were
talking
about
williams
street
on
the
last
corridor
elma,
I
see
you
have
your
hand
raised.
B
B
C
B
B
The
normal
cardinal
direction,
but
yeah
so
you
see
those
bull
belts
that
we're
showing
on
on
21st
street
here
and
here
those
those
would
be
concrete,
curbs
like
I
showed
earlier,
and
we
would
have
them
here
and
here
and
here
and
here,
okay-
and
you
know,
we
don't
want
people
parking
that
close
to
the
traffic
circle,
we
want
to
keep
to
the
intersection.
We
want
to
keep
the
sight
lines
clear
right,
so
people.
C
B
B
Yeah
one
of
the
ways
we
don't
have,
the
final
designs
of
the
actual
traffic
circles
finished
yet,
but
there's
a
way
you
can
do
it
where
the
it's
mountable
for
the
buses,
but
you
would
still
discourage
cars
from
from
trying
to
go
up
on
top
of
it.
Okay
yeah,
but
that
is
one
of
the
challenges
for
designing
the
traffic
circles
on
this
stretch,
is
that
we
have
to
allow
for
the
buses
to
get
through.
B
A
B
B
B
B
B
Here
we
have
a
median
island
as
you
approach
san
antonio
and
then,
as
we
get
closer
to
peach
court,
we
get
into
another
chicane
where
we
have
the
alternating
parking
and
the
islands
that
cause
the
weave
right
now,
there's
just
parking
on
one
side
of
the
street
there.
So
this
would
be
alternating
it
back
and
forth.
B
B
E
E
F
E
F
E
I
mean
in
some
cases
it's
not
a
big
deal,
I'm
just
as
I'm
seeing
all
these
images.
It
just
keeps
repeating
in
my
mind,
just
I
I
guess,
if
you
can't
think
about
that
at
some
times
it
makes
more
sense
or
it
worries
me
more
on
higher
traffic
areas
like
san
antonio
or
something,
but
these
are
like
really
offside
streets.
I'm
not
sure
that
you
know
it'll
be
an
issue,
but
that
is.
That
is
one
concern
that
I
have.
B
B
E
I'll
have
to
go
out
there
and
check
and
see
like
which
ones
would
really
make
me
nervous,
but
yeah.
I
I
don't
think
it's
a
it's
something
that
we
have
to
look
at
at
all
of
them,
but
from
here
is
it.
It
just
makes
me
a
little
bit
nervous
when
I
see
some
of
these
pinch
points
about
having
to
manage
that
conflict.
When
a
car
and
a
bike
are
like
both
there
and
we're
both
going
like
15
miles
an
hour.
B
B
D
So
I
think
that
if
we
did
bring
the
bike
between
the
bulb
out
and
the
curb
line
that
we,
it
would
result
in
more
parking
loss
too.
Just
a
design
consideration
from
that,
and
I
I
would
hesitate
to
move
the
bike
out
of
the
travel
lane
into
its
own
separate
lane
only
for
them
to
then
return
to
the
travel
lane.
So
it's
such
a
short
distance,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
the
bikes,
it's
the
safest
movement
for
the
bike.
D
E
Yeah
thanks
for
saying
that
I
think
one
one
look
or
I
guess
one
question
I
would
say
is
like
do.
We
need
concrete
from
the
point
where
it
makes
the
pinch
all
the
way
to
the
gutter.
Like
I
mean
I
don't
I
don't
know
exactly
how
wide
that
is
or
but,
like
let's
say,
that's,
I
guess
that's
eight
feet
of
concrete
right.
D
D
B
B
I
think
we're
making
pretty
good
time
here
last
last
time
we
did
this.
We
broke
up
the
meeting
into
two
two
meetings.
We
still
have
45
minutes
and
we're
on
our
fourth
corridor
already.
So
that's
good.
So
here
we
are
33rd
street.
This
is
the
northern
tip
of
it.
In
this
area,
that's
melody
lane
there
you
can
see
this
stretch
is,
was
improved
recently
because
of
the
school
there.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
I
just
one
thing
I
wanted
to
say
is
that
this
is
not
going
to
happen
anytime
soon,
but
one
idea
that
I
think
is
pretty
exciting
is
when
the
lower
silver
creek
trail
gets
built
out.
You
know
it
goes
perpendicular
to
33rd
up
there
near
melody
lane
and
the
goal
is
to
someday
have
a
bike
bridge
there
a
way
to
connect
to
the
trail
from
33rd
street.
So
that
would
make
this
an
even
better
connection
and
even
more
important
connection
than
it
currently
is.
A
E
B
B
B
B
Okay,
so
here
we
are
at
camera,
king
road
there,
on
the
on
the
western
portion.
Again
we
have
some
pinch
points,
a
combination,
median
island
and
bulb
out,
and
then
we
have
some
some
pinch
points
without
the
median
island.
Just
sort
of
mid
block,
bull
belts
as
we
go
down
the
roadway
18
feet
is
a
narrow
roadway
for
two
for
a
a
two-way
road.
Generally,
our
our
smallest
lane
widths
are
2,
are
10
feet,
so
you
would
expect
20
feet.
B
B
B
B
All
right,
so
I
think
we
got
two
more
corridors
sunset
and
jose
forgiddis.
Let's
keep
them
moving,
feel
free
to
chime
in
whenever
you
guys
want.
I
know
we're
kind
of
we're
seeing
some
of
the
same
treatments
over
and
over
again.
So
I
understand
why
people
are
not
that
excited
to
chime
in,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
we
go
over
every
corridor.
B
B
C
B
B
B
And
then
we
get
to
this
funky
little
intersection
where
we've
got
three
crosswalks
and
some
bulldogs
and
then
we're
heading
to
the
crossing
that
I
mentioned
and
we've
added
a
stop
sign
in
there.
I
believe
that
was
justin's
request,
so
justin
asks
and
we
provide
it's
not
that
simple-
we're
actually
going
to
have
to
do
a
warrant
study
for
the
the
stop
sign,
but
it's
at
least
in
the
designs
at
this
point
not
promising
anything.
E
Yet
yeah
can
I
make
mention
on
that
yep,
the
the
stop
signs.
Actually,
no,
there
is
no
stop
sign.
It's
just
the
drive
through
right
right.
Is
there
any
way
to
include
chicanes
or
bulb
outs
or
to
reduce
this
sp
drive
space?
Two
two
complications
here:
one
is
the
way
that
the
the
bridge
is
designed.
It's
not
in
a
zigzag
like
most
modern
bridges.
It's
a
continuous
slope
downwards.
E
A
lot
of
kids
in
that
area
are
on
skateboards
skates
spikes.
They
they
zoom
into
that
street
there.
So,
even
if
you
know
they're,
even
if
someone
because
right
now,
there's
no
stop
sign,
it
just
continues
through
and
there's
oftentimes
close
calls
that
happen
at
that
area.
Because
of
that
environment
is
there
I
mean
ideally
from
a
cyclist's
point
of
view,
and
this
has
to
be.
You
know
a
community
thing,
but
ideally
we'd
want
that
to
be.
E
E
B
E
Right
now
that
lavon
street
comes
from
king
road
and
there's
no
stop
sign
from
lavon
all
the
way
to
moxa
in
the
back
and
people
drive,
people
drive
very
fast
right
there.
It's
also
a
wide
intersection
that
sometimes
people
do
donuts
in
yeah
that
environment,
mixed
with
the
slope
of
the
of
the
the
bridge,
has
caused
some
close
calls.
E
B
Right
right,
yeah,
let's
make
a
note
of
that.
So
as
far
as
the
the
bridge
goes.
So
what
you're
saying
is
that
you
go
around
the
it's
like
a
circular
ramp
and
then
from
the
bottom
of
the
circle.
To
the
actual
street
is
kind
of
a
steep
downhill.
Is
everything,
and
so
people
get
up
some
speed
and
they
just
kind
of
blast
out
into
the
intersection.
E
B
B
B
B
A
E
The
area
where
there's
three
roads
coming
together-
yes,
it's
very,
very
it's
kind
of
confusing.
This
probably
doesn't
have
anything
to
do,
and
I
can
add
this
on
notes
later,
but
is
there
any
way
to
like
put
more
signage
or
something
in
that
area?
It
is
a
little
bit
confusing
when
we
come
up
to
it.
I
don't
know
exactly
what
my
what
my
question
or
want
is
here.
I
guess
my
expression
is
this
area
is
confusing
yeah
that
that's
that's.
E
A
A
B
B
Someone
was
mentioning
the
I
think
with
joan
was
mentioning
the
crown
of
the
roadway.
That's
actually
why
we
can't
do
more
raised
crosswalks,
because
so
many
of
our
roadways
have
large
crowns.
That
makes
it.
So
if
you
were
to
do
a
raised
crosswalk
on
top
of
a
roadway
with
a
large
crown
like
that,
you
would
basically
be
making
too
much
of
a
hill
for
people
in
wheelchairs
just
across
the
street.
B
A
And
pete
we
have
a
question
from
justin
is
to
crown
the
hill
in
roads
for
water
to
fall
off,
and
yes,
that
is
correct.
So
if
you're
driving
down
a
road,
you'll,
probably
notice
that
the
center
of
the
road
where
the
stripe
is,
is
a
little
bit
higher
than
in
the
gutters,
and
so
that's
exactly
right.
Justin
that
helps
us
shed
that
wattage
of
the
gutters
here
in
san
jose
that
center
is
super
high.
B
Yeah
and
part
of
the
reason
that
it
gets
so
high
in
san
jose
is
that
we
just
pave
over
the
roadways
when
they
get
banged
up
instead
of
doing
a
full
resurfacing.
It's
a
lot
more
expensive
to
do
the
full
resurfacing
and
resetting
the
crown.
So
some
of
those
streets
with
really
big
crowns
are
due
to
just
years
and
years
of
resurfacing
on
top
of
it,
instead
of
resetting
the
crown.
B
That's
my
understanding,
I
I'm
not
an
engineer
actually
can
maybe
speak
to
that
more.
But
that's
that's
how
I
understand
it
to
be
here.
We
are
at
el
rancho
verdi,
where
we
have
some
bull
belts
and
an
extension
of
that
medium.
That's
out
there
already
creating
sort
of
a
pinch
shaw.
I
see
you
have
your
hand
raised.
F
F
B
F
F
F
B
Hear
what
you're
saying
this
isn't
a
new
thing,
though
I
will
say
we
we
passed
the
latest
general
plan
over
10
years
ago,
and
that
document
is
you
know
it's
the
guiding
document
for
the
city,
it's
how
we
want
to
manage
growth
going
forward,
and
that
document
says
you
know
if
we
want
to
continue
to
grow
and
be
a
thriving
city
and
be
a
place
where
our
children
can
go
up.
You
know
we're
going
to
have
to
change
the
way
people
get
around.
B
I
I
will
say
that
we
looked
at
the
number
of
bike
riders
in
the
unmoving
mental
study
area
and
it
was
double
what
it
is.
Citywide,
the
the
rate
is
still
pretty
low,
like
you
were
saying,
but
it
is,
you
know
double
what
it
is
citywide
and
same
with
the
number
of
people
that
that
walk
so
we're
off
to
a
good
start.
There.
F
Yeah,
but
that
is
depends
on
which
area
it
is.
If
you
think
about
the
whole
city
and
started
doing
you
know
the
biking
lane
for
every
road,
then
yeah
there
is
a
problem.
Yeah
there
are
some
places
yeah,
you
really
need
a
biking
and
it
makes
sense,
but
some
places
like
our
area
is
not
a
very
safe
area.
I
mean,
besides
the
you
know,
shady
people,
I'm
so.
F
Unfortunately,
I
I
shouldn't
say
this
word
but,
like
you
know,
those
are
the
people
who
are
doing
the
biking,
but
normal
people,
nobody,
you
know
no,
my
normal
residence.
I
see
no
one
bike
almost
and
for
that
is
just.
I
give
you
one
example
if
it's
not
in
that
map,
but
I
already
saw
it.
There
is
a
street
parallel
to
the
alum
rock
is
called
san
antonio
street.
D
F
So
san
antonio
and
jackson
avenue
that
area
used
to
be
like
in
san
antonio.
There
used
to
be
like
a
two
lane.
Both
side
now
is
one
lane
for
bike
and
took
it
out.
So
it's
now
become
one
lane
for
each
each
side
and
because
of
that,
the
right
now
the
is
already
in
spandemic
time,
but
it
still
is
already
get.
You
know
you
know
busy
like
it.
Take
you
a
long
time.
F
I
didn't
use
that
much,
but
when
I
use
I
saw
it
all
the
time,
especially
the
morning
time,
I
saw
it
that
you
said,
especially
if
you,
if
you
familiar
with
that
san
antonio
street
and
jackson,
there
is
a
right
turn
and
left
turn
in
the
right
turn
used
to.
You
can
make
a
light
right
turn
when
the
you
know
light
is
red
red
in
your
sight,
but
now
because
of
they
put
the
barrier
stuff,
you
cannot,
you
have
to
wait
until
it
gets
green.
F
F
I
understand
that
yeah,
you
need
a
bike
lane
for
some
other
places
which
one
you
really
needed,
but
not
you
know
everywhere.
That
was
my.
You
know
comment,
and
I
I
guess
this
will
also
happen
that
we
will
lose
couple
of
parking
because
of
this,
and
it
will
be
more
hectic
for
even
like
for
the
driving
people.
It
will
be
a
little
bit,
especially.
I
can
see
that
if
you
put
in
some
kind
of,
let
me
see
what
is
this
one?
Can
you
move
this?
F
F
F
A
B
B
B
B
I
also
just
want
to
acknowledge:
there's
a
there's,
it's
kind
of
counter-intuitive
when
we're
talking
about
traffic
coming
because
it's
we're
putting
stuff
in
that
may
make
you
feel
somewhat
uncomfortable
as
a
driver
and
that's
that's
what
causes
people
to
slow
down
right?
That's
what
causes
the
calming,
and
so
that's
the
effect
that
we
want.
I
think
what
you're
talking
about
with
you
know,
feeling
like
your
car
is
going
into
the
other
lane.
B
The
traffic
circle
should
help
with
that,
because
there's
no
one
one
of
the
good
things
about
traffic
circles
is
they
limit
the
chances
of
a
head-on
collision
like
the
cars
are
heading
south
will
be.
You
know
I
don't
know
how
wide
that
is,
but
you
know
20
feet
away
from
you
as
you're
heading
north,
so
there'll
be
less
concern
about
a
head-on
collision
there.
C
I
mean
if
you
know
I
may
go
slower,
but
I
don't
know
sometimes,
even
when
I'm
going,
let's
say
I'm
going
north,
it
almost
seems
like
cars
that
are
coming
south
are
coming
a
little
bit
too
fast
going
against
me
too.
So
I
don't
know
if
there
could
be
some
kind
of
little
bulb
like
a
little
concrete
thing
right
there
to
keep
the
two
sides
separate
as
you're
coming
around.
B
C
C
A
F
F
B
Yeah,
you
can
see
you
can
see
at
the
very
left
of
the
screen
where
it's
white
that's
existing,
and
the
plan
here
is
to
extend
it
all
the
way
to
el
rancho
verde,
yeah
and
I'll
double
check.
What
this
one
is.
If
this
is
just
paint
in
the
roadway
or
if
that's
going
to
be
a
curb
or
something
like
that,
we'll
figure
that
one
out,
but
that
would
just
add,
add
more
to
the
the
roadway.
A
Yeah
and
and
just
as
a
final
thought
on
this,
because
folks
are
bringing
up
some
great
points
here.
A
lot
of
this
proposals
here
are
really
looking
at
kind
of
channelizing
the
traffic
so
that
because
the
road
bends
and
there's
a
lot
of
driveways,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
are
following
a
safe
path
through
these
intersections
and
also
a
consistent
one.
A
So
you
know
if
you're
coming
off
of
el
rancho
verde
here,
you're
you're
not
going
to
try
and
you
know,
cut
the
corner
right,
because
that
could
be
dangerous
for
somebody
coming
this
way
and
so
by
adding
these
medians
now
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
you're
making
a
much
safer,
more
consistent
turn
there
and
that's
kind
of
the
the
purpose
around
a
lot
of
these
bull
belts.
In
addition
to
providing
you
know,
more
safety
for
for
pedestrians
and
bicyclists
as
well.
C
B
That
was
that's
one
of
our
faster
corridors
that
we
have
here
so
definitely
hear
what
you're
saying
there,
elena,
let's
keep
it
moving.
We
only
have
a
few
more
minutes
in
our
time
window.
I
can
stay
over
a
little
bit,
but
I
want
to
be
respectful
of
everyone,
so
this
is
just
south
of
alum
rock
there
on
what
is
now
called
sharp
and
you
can
see
again.
We
have
some
bull
belts
and
some
median
islands.
B
B
Yep,
there's
the
the
other
side
of
that
intersection
with
the
median
island,
and
then
we
get
to
san
antonio.
We've
got
bull
belts
on
either
side
of
the
intersection
and
then,
as
we
get
onto
packing
place,
which
is
also
a
pretty
calm
street,
just
have
a
one
set
of
pinch
point
islands
there
and
then
that
leads
to
a
new,
a
new
ramp
for
bikes.
As
so,
you
can
access
that
bridge.
That
goes
to
the
other
side
of
camera,
and
then
you
can
take
camera
over
to
jackson
too.
B
B
B
B
Of
the
meeting,
as
we
get
closer
to
the
final
designs,
these
windows
for
comment,
they
get
shorter
and
shorter.
We
should
be
narrowing
in
on
what
we
want
to
see
there
anyway.
So
we
shouldn't
have
too
many
issues
with
them,
but
I
will
be
in
touch
on
when
we
get
the
the
next
iteration
of
designs
and
then
construction
for
all.
This
is
not
for
another
year
at
the
earliest.
B
We
have
to
have
these
these
projects
shovel
ready
by
september,
but
then
we
have,
I
think,
three
years
to
deliver
them.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
time.
Thanks
joan,
I
appreciate
that
comment,
and
it's
really
great
hearing
from
all
of
you
and
working
with
you.
I
want
to
make
sure
everyone
knows
about
our
community
advisory
group
meeting
that
we're
having
next
wednesday
we'll
be
going
over
this
stuff
again.
B
So
if
you're,
only
interested
in
quick
strike
it'll
be
a
little
bit
repetitive,
but
we
will
also
be
talking
about
our
san
antonio
project.
We've
I've
been
working
on
an
evaluation
of
that.
We
have
some
recommended
changes
to
it
and
then
we'll
be
talking
about
our
mclaughlin
project.
We
are
just
about
to
wrap
up
designs
on
that,
so
that's
gonna
be
next
wednesday.
Does
anyone
does
everyone
here
know
about
that?
Does
anyone
need
me
to
send
out
the
invite
for
that?
B
A
B
B
B
On
that
northeast
corner
of
24th
and
william,
and
that's
a
little
bit
out
of
my
wheelhouse-
I'm
not
an
engineer,
and
that
was
part
of
a
different
project,
but
I
did
get
to
talking
to
gene
about
our
mclaughlin
project
and
what
he's
talking
about
with
the
bus?
Stop
is
right.
Now
you
see
where
mclaughlin
to
the
south,
you
see
where
it
jets
out
there
on
the
right
hand,
side.
B
That
is
where
the
bus
stop
is
currently
see
that
just
where
it
juts
out
right
right
above
the
word
chicane
down,
oh
yeah,
yeah
there.
So
there's
a
there's,
a
driveway
there
and
a
bus
stop
there,
and
and
what
we
want
to
do
as
part
of
our
mclaughlin
project
is
build
a
bus
island
there.
So
bus
islands
are
great
for
transit
operations
and
also
they
they
limit
some
of
the
conflicts
between
bikes
and
buses.
B
So
the
the
way
it
works
is
you
have
the
bus,
island
and
there's
a
little
ramp
that
goes
to
the
sidewalk,
and
the
bikes
can
go
over
that
ramp
as
long
as
there's
no
one
going
to
board
the
bus
there,
and
so
that
prevents
it.
So
when
a
bus
is
pulling
over
and
bikes
coming,
they
don't
have
to
interact
at
all.
They
avoid
the
bus
bike.
C
B
Just
be
temporary
until
we
build
the
bus
island
there,
otherwise
we
would
have
to
remove
some
parking
while
we
build
the
bus
stop.
I
know,
as
we
heard
earlier,
nobody
wants
us
to
remove
any
parking
anywhere.
So
that's
our
solution
right
there
for
24th
street.
We
we'll
be
talking
about
that
more
at
the
community
advisory
group
meeting
next
wednesday.
B
A
It
looks
like
elma
has
a
point
here
about
some
bulldogs
agreeing
with
shaw
on
how
they
can
interfere
with
right,
turns
and
back
up
traffic
with
the
example
of
san
antonio
and
king
road,
and
that
san
antonio
is
backing
up.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that
comment.
Elma
and,
as
pete
said,
we'll
be
speaking
more
about
san
antonio
at
that
community
advisory
group
next
week.
But
thank
you
all
again
for
for
your
comments.