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A
B
And
you
have
a
new
commissioner
that
was
approved
last
night
at
city
council
I
heard
that
yeah
Bridget
Dixon
I,
don't
know
if
she's
on
but
I'll
call
her
name
in
the
role
yeah
I.
C
A
D
B
B
Commissioner
Ortiz
present,
commissioner
Perez
president
chair
long
here
you
have
a
poor,
Madam
chair.
Thank.
C
C
Okay,
thank
you
and
on
page
four,
the
third
paragraph
where
I
am
making
a
comment
about
one
of
the
initiatives.
I
think
it's
a
financial
initiative
was
voted
on
by
the
commission.
The
word
council
is
there
that
it
was
sent
to
us
by
the
council,
but
that
word
should
be
substituted
with
commission.
B
C
Next,
we
have
our
minutes
from
the
prior
meeting,
which
was
February
23
prior
to
the
March
9
meeting,
I
should
say
and,
as
you
will
recall,
we
postponed
those
in
order
to
get
the
minute
straightened
out
with
commissioner
Dyrdek's
comments
and
I
understand
that
has
now
been
done
so
that
they
are.
They
accurately
reflect
your
statements,
commissioner,
Dyrdek,
and
ask
if
there's
any
other
changes
that
anyone
would
like
to
recommend
for
those
minutes.
C
C
B
A
Chair
long,
yes,
we
have
Adam,
Johnson
I
will
allow
him
to
speak
Adam.
If
you
could
unmute
yourself,
you
should
be
able
to
talk.
Can
you
hear
me.
E
Madam
chair
members
of
the
commission,
thank
you
for
your
continued
work
on
this.
I
did
submit
a
public
comment
through
the
portal.
I
wanted
to
just
read
it
into
the
record,
and
at
least
you
missed
that
it
was
brief.
I
tried
to
keep
it
brief,
and
basically
I
I
wanted
to
say
that,
given
that
the
city
Charter
is
a
guiding
document
for
City
policy
and
citizen
rights,
I
believe
there
could
be
a
simple
addition
to
the
Charter
that
would
ensure
Fair
procedures
within
the
quasi-judicial
framework.
E
As
you
know,
I've
been
kind
of
submitting
many
documents
and
think
pieces
about
this.
E
This
would
be
a
sort
of
draft
of
the
recommendation
quote
recognizing
the
importance
of
due
process
of
law
and
fairness
in
matters
that
require
quasi-judicial
hearings,
the
city
of
Santa
Fe
and
all
its
governing
body
boards
commissions
and
committees
shall
commit
to
assuring
that
all
such
quasi-judicial
proceedings
adhere
to
the
concepts
of
due
process
of
law
and
fundamental
fairness
and
apply
these
Concepts
in
an
impartial
manner
to
both
applicants
and
members
of
the
community
that
may
be
affected
by
the
outcome
of
such
proceedings.
E
I
also
wanted
to
to
make
a
note:
I
did
I
actually
did
come
to
City
Hall
so
that
you
all
could
could
see
me
in
person,
but
learned
it
was
a
virtual
meeting.
So
that's
so
anyway,
I'm
in
my
car
reading
this
that's
that's
okay,
but
I
I
did
want
to
Echo
a
concern
that
commissioner
blondes
raised
in
the
last
meeting,
which
is
that
me
and
one
other
person
have
been
the
only
people
that
have
been
the
this.
E
B
C
You
thank
you.
Yes
thank
you.
Mr
Johnson
and
it
sounds
like
you
have
come
up
with
kind
of
a
more
of
a
policy
statement
out
of
you
know
prior
concerns
that
you
have
voiced
to
us
and
that
you've
written
that
up
in
a
format
that
that
could
be
included
in
the
charter.
Of
course
we
have
to.
We
have
to
look
at
that,
but
I
appreciate
your
your
efforts
in
in
doing
that.
E
And
thank
you
for
yours
on
this
commission.
I
I
did
speak
with
some
people
and
you
know
came
to
their
conclusion
that
a
policy
statement
instead
of
a
study
question,
might
be
more
expeditious
for
you
all.
Thank
you.
C
B
C
C
A
Chair,
if
we
could,
if
I,
could
just
introduce
our
new
staff
member
before
we
get
into
that
yeah,
please
do
at
some
point:
yeah
go
ahead.
A
new
number
of
our
legislative
team,
Marcy,
no
I
lost
your
bio
again
Marcy
and
Ian
Areno.
Who
is
our
our
new
Jesse
Guillen
she's,
the
head
of
our
legislative
Department
Marcy.
Do
you
want
to
say
your
title,
which
I
can
never
remember
so
I
had
it
up
and
then
my
email
changes
something
else.
No.
K
Problem
It's
actually
kind
of
a
long
title
so
and
for
those
of
you
who
are
curious
about
seeing
my
name
Pat
just
said
it
exactly
right.
If
you
say
that
Anna
in
the
middle
you'll
get
it
just
put
the
E
and
then
say:
Anna
and
you'll
have
it
because
then
you
add
the
Reno
at
the
end.
But
so
that's
how
I
learned
to
say
it.
It's
actually
I'm
just
sharing
with
you
now
so
and
so
Ianna
Reno
and
my
title
is
the
manager
of
policy
and
legislation.
K
Maybe
that's
why
so
that
they
don't
rhyme
so
anyway,
it's
a
little
distracting
anyway,
so
I'm
I'm
happy
to
be
here
and
and
work
with
everybody
and
I'm
learning
as
much
as
I
can
as
efficiently
as
possible
and
I'm
gonna
hit
the
deck
running
and
I'm
not
sure
what
my
role
is
going
to
be
with
this
group,
but
at
the
very
least,
I
think
any
of
the
decisions
that
you
make
will
certainly
have
influence
on
things
that
happen
in
the
future.
C
C
H
I
I
want
to
summarize
very
quickly
what
you're
about
to
hear
and
then
my
colleagues
and
I
will
take
you
through
it.
You
have
now
seen
in
written
form
the
the
whole
piece
and
I
hope.
You
noticed
a
couple
of
things.
Just
on
the
page,
the
the
there
are
three
items
that
propose
Charter
revision,
the
first
of
them
handles
items
e
and
G
as
they
appear
on
your
agenda.
H
What's
going
on
today,
as
you'll
hear
from
me
about
items
e
and
G,
then
you'll
hear
from
Lily
may
about
item
h
and
you'll,
hear
from
Maria
about
item
I
and
J
when
all
of
that
is
done,
I'll
go
back
and
make
a
quick
reference
to
the
other
other
items,
but
you
have
heard
from
us
in
two
previous
meetings,
almost
without
any
change
at
all
those
items
and
we've
added
a
few
sentences,
but
they're
very
clear
on
the
page.
H
Having
said
that,
let
me
Begin
by
saying
just
how
grateful
we
are,
as
a
committee
to
you
Pat
for
you
and
Aaron
just
did
Yeoman
service
and
since
the
last
time
this
group
met
all
of
our
material
has
gone
to
the
city,
attorney's
office
and
Aaron
and
Pat
divided
it
up
and
went
at
it
line
by
line,
and
they
shared
with
us
ordinances
and
state
law
that
pertain
to
the
various
places
they
raised.
H
Questions
with
us
and
in
almost
all
cases
we
simply
Incorporated
their
best
wisdom,
knowing
that
that
what
they
are
doing
is
they're
helping
the
proposals
that
we
have
harmonize
with
existing
documents
and
and
agreements
that
the
city
lives
by
so
I
I,
actually
counted
them
up
Pat
and
between
you
and
Aaron
you.
You
propose
that
we
apply
ourselves
to
73
comments,
all
of
them
and
we
finished
that
work
as
recently
as
yesterday.
H
So
another
note
is
that
when
it
comes
particularly
to
the
case,
the
first
one
that
you'll
be
hearing
from
me
about,
we
incorporated
so
much
of
what
Pat
and
I
were
in
conversation
about.
But
then
there
were
a
few
items
where
we
got
into
kind
of
a
substantive
and
philosophical
description
of
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish,
and
so
we
chose
to
include
not
only
the
underlines
and
deletions,
but
we
wanted
to
include
some
of
those
balloons
in
the
margins
so
that
you
can
see
our
conversation.
H
H
I'm
getting
to
it
here
is
starts
on
page
one
of
our
report.
That's
page
26
of
your
packet
for
the
day,
and
it
goes
to
page
11.,
and
this
is
the
one
that
responds
to
the
question
of
what
should
the
roles
of
Mayor
manager
and
Council
B
and,
as
I've
said
in
the
past,
a
lot
of
what
we
did
was
kind
of
put
this
in
a
an
order
that
we
thought
was
more
instructive
for
the
reader.
H
But
I
have
to
say
that
Aaron
certainly
helped
me
with
a
civics
lesson
and
as
old
as
I.
Am
it's
about
time
that
more
High
specifics
penetrate
and
she
helped
a
lot.
Here's
the
civics
when
we
say
separation
of
powers,
which
is
the
phrase
used
in
the
referral
to
us
from
the
city
council.
H
There
is
a
concept
in
in
this
country
that
the
of
separation
and
balance
of
powers-
and
we
talk
about
that
in
other
places
as
three
branches,
legislative
executive
and,
in
those
other
places
judicial.
But
in
municipal
government
judicial
work
is
done
by
a
branch
of
the
state's
government,
and
so
the
Municipal
Court
functions
as
I
understand
it
essentially
in
some
respects,
almost
like
a
department,
and
so
you
will
see
in
the
very
beginning
of
our
recommendation.
H
Aaron
has
helped
me
understand,
and
Pat
was
kept
that
in
front
of
me,
and
it
took
me
a
while
to
grasp
it
that
that
we've
changed
some
nomenclature
there,
so
that
we
don't
confuse
anybody.
How
much
as
I
was
confused.
So,
having
said
that
have
put
a
lot
of
balancing
these
two,
the
legislative
branch
and
the
executive
branch-
and
you
see
how
we
have
done
so
when
you
get.
H
There
are
good
many
details
here
and
in
these
various
cases
you
will
see
one
sentence
that
you
haven't
seen
before,
and
that
is
that
in
the
legislative
duties
we
think
that
the
charter
needs
to
reference
the
fact
of
a
finance
committee
and
the
reason
for
that
that
may
seem
peculiar.
But
the
reason
for
it
is
that
later
you
will
hear
from
from
Lily
may
that
in
the
financial
management
section,
the
finance
committee
is
named,
and
indeed
it
has
been
named
in
the
charter.
H
But
it's
been
named
without
any
reference
to
the
authority
to
create
such
a
committee,
and
that
seemed
like
something
of
a
cul-de-sac.
So
at
Aaron's
good
advice,
we
entered
this
sentence
where
you
see
it
it's
on
page
two,
the
I
am
not
going
to
go
at
this
in
great
detail.
I
think
you
can
see
it
the
when
you
see
the
legislative
branch
about
districts
and
about
the
counselors
districts,
starting
in
page
three.
H
But
then
we
get
into
the
question
of
the
executive
branch,
and
one
of
the
interesting
comments
that
arose
is
that
in
the
model
City
Charter,
the
form
of
government
that
they
describe
is
using
their
description.
They
describe
it
as
mayor
hyphen,
Council,
and
so
in
our
case,
what
we're
proposing
is
legislative
body,
hyphen,
executive
body.
H
So
we
have
applied
this
structure
and
we
think
the
functions
are
still
as
distinct
as
they
have
ever
been.
We
have
made
them
clearer
in
a
couple
of
respects
for
the
the
point
of
contact
between
the
legislative
branch
and
the
executive
branch
is
between
the
council
and
the
city
manager.
H
The
city
manager
is
in
touch
on
a
daily
basis
with
the
department
heads
and
because
of
that,
the
city
manager
is
best
equipped
to
serve
the
council
as
a
a
resource,
an
asset
as
they
conduct
their
legislative
deliberations
and
annually
will
come
from
the
city
manager's
office
under
this
new
structure
and
other
than
that,
the
mayor
serves
in
as
a
much
more
city-wide
leadership
role,
helping
the
city
as
a
whole,
Envision
its
progress
toward
meeting
its
goals
and
describing
what's
most
important
and
crucial
issues
of
the
moment,
and
so
in
that
case
we
do
not
see
the
mayor
as
necessarily
attending
each
meeting
of
the
council
is
not
a
member
of
the
council.
H
There
are
rare
occasions
when
the
council
needs
to
act
as
the
governing
body
and
the
governing
body
is
the
city
council
plus
the
mayor
for
those
cases.
Another
thing
you'll
notice
about
the
mayor.
The
mayor
under
this
structure
does
break
the
tie
because
the
way
our
council
is
put
together,
it's
an
even
number
and
the
question
was
raised-
made
perfect
sense.
How
in
the
world
is
that
supposed
to
work?
H
Well,
it
seems
to
us
that
when
there
is
a
tie-
and
it
occurs
to
us
that
that's
likely
to
be
very
rare-
but
when
there
is
one
it
would
be
a
simple
matter-
and
this
is
not-
this
is
not
Charter
material,
but
it's
just
to
describe
just
mechanically
and
practically
how
it
might
work.
There
are
several
different
ways
to
to
handle
it.
H
If
the
council
knows
that
there
may
be
a
tie,
the
council
can
let
the
mayor
know
that
he
needs
to
be
close
by
so
that
when
that
comes
up
on
the
agenda,
he
can
help
the
other
way
to
do
it
is
that
when
a
tie
occurs,
the
matter
automatically
is
tabled
until
the
mayor
can
participate
and
that
could
be
within
the
within
the
time
frame
of
the
actual
meeting.
Even
before
it
adjourns
it
could
be
the
next
day
it
could
be.
The
next
meeting.
H
The
when
you
get
to
into
this
executive
branch,
you
will
see
that
there
are
two
roles.
The
mayor
is
one
role
and
the
manager
is
the
other.
H
The
manager,
of
course,
is
hired
by
the
mayor
with
the
consent
of
the
council,
and
so
the
executive
branch
is
integrated
that
way
between
the
two,
but
as
the
as
the
model,
City
Charter
describes
it
and
I
have
I've
included
in
the
commentary
section
that
description
cities
have
experienced
the
fact
that
asking
one
person
to
be
the
principal
role
in
both
the
the
public
leadership
task
and
the
supervisorial
and
operational
tasks.
Pardon
me
I,
guess:
I
use
the
word
operational
asking
one
person
to
do.
H
That
means
that
either
one
of
those
roles
tends,
at
least
in
many
cities,
to
get
short
shrift
and
having
two
members
of
a
two-member
team.
Have
these
two
very
different,
but
closely
related
roles
in
government
seems
to
to
work
very
well,
and
so
we
have
institutionalized
that
in
our
recommendation.
H
I
think
you
will
also
notice
going
further
that
we
moved
the
description
of
the
mayor,
Pro
tem,
to
the
legislative
section,
because
this
is
a
person
who
is
a
member
of
the
council,
but
is
elected
by
the
council
to
that
purpose
and
that
the
mayor,
Pro
tem,
is
available
to
serve
when
the
mayor
is
not
able
to.
But
the
council
also
has
the
privilege
of
selecting
its
own
presiding
officer
and
it's
strictly
up
to
them
whether
the
two
roles
can
be
fulfilled
by
the
same
person
or
not
that's
their
choice.
H
H
We
invite
that
that
person
and
then
the
whole
discussion
of
budget
occurs
with
regard
to
that
person
and
Lily
may
is
going
to
go
into
that.
In
a
few
minutes,
the
we
did
discover
in
the
model
City
Charter,
that
there
are
cities
that
have
had
some
odd
conflict
when
the
city
attorney
is
hired
by
the
mayor
as
well
as
the
city
manager
and
the
city
clerk
and,
and
is
it
becomes
the
City
attorney
with
the
consent
of
the
council
but
the
city.
H
Sorry,
the
mayor
has
sole
authority
to
remove
and
therefore
the
City
attorney
sometimes
needs
to
help.
The
two
bodies
handle
differences
of
opinion
between
them
and
it
appears
in
some
cities
that
The
Influence
is
skewed,
that
the
mayor
has
a
closer
alliance
with
the
attorney
than
the
council
does,
and
the
way
to
help
that
in
some
places,
has
been
to
mean
that
when
a
City
attorney
is
to
be
removed,
that
must
have
the
same
consent
of
counsel
of
the
city
council
that
it
does
to
retain
the
City
attorney
in
the
first
place.
H
So
you'll
see
that
as
a
slight
change
of
our
previous
practice,
and
that
is
for
reasons
that
we
discovered
in
the
model
City
Charter
you'll
notice-
that
on
what
I'm
numbering
here
5.3
the
municipal
court
is
exactly
as
it
is
already.
We
do
not.
We
no
longer
refer
to
it
as
a
branch,
because
it
isn't
one
and
finally,
Paul
Dyrdek
has
learned
High
School
civics.
H
The
commentary,
I
hope
is
helpful
and
explanatory.
We've
had
some
discussion
about
some
sentences
that
seem
Superfluous
and
so
we've
stricken
them.
Others
we've
elaborated
just
a
little,
then
you'll
see
a
long
passage
that
is
quoted
from
page
seven
of
the
mcc9
and
I
think
you'll
find
that
instructive,
and
it
helps
us
see
why
we
made
some
of
the
decisions
that
we
are
bringing
to.
You
I
think
I
am
going
to
end
there
and
pass
the
Baton
to
my
colleague
you
Lily
may
to
look
at
the
financial
management
section.
C
Okay
I'm
wondering
if
we
should
pause
here
for
any
questions
on
this
section
of
it,
while
we've
just
heard
it
any
discussion
of
this
item.
If
that's
all
right
with
you,
of
course,
you're
dear
Dak
and
I
may
not
have
the
most
recent
version
now
I'm
realizing
because
you
are
making
changes
up
to
the
end,
which
was
great
based
upon
review.
But
we
still
use.
Are
you
still
using
the
phrase?
H
Yes,
that
occurred
in
the
model
City
Charter
and
we
found
it
to
be
illustrative.
A
C
Got
more
as
a
description
rather
than
a
term
so
I,
oh
okay,
I
would
propose
some
other
term.
I,
don't
have
one
right
now,
but
that
was
my
concern
about
that
and
then
you
you
did
discuss
breaking
the
ties.
I
had
a
question
too
is
how
does
that
work?
How
does
someone
know
when
there
will
be
a
tie,
and
then
you
also
have
the
mayor
sitting
in
as
a
member
at
large
for
quasi-judicial
matters,
I
mean
that's
the
best.
H
That
part
is
that
part
about
equation.
Quasi-Judicial
is
no
longer
in
and
I'll.
Tell
you
why?
Okay,
since
all
that
version,
you
remember
that
was
the
we
generated
that
the
day
before
the
last
meeting
and
in
the
minutes
of
the
last
meeting,
we
see
that
that
issue
that
the
commission
is
asking
the
Council
to
include
a
thorough
discussion
of
that,
as
it
develops
I
think
is
chapter
14,
that's
under
complete
revision
and
we
thought
that
that's
much
more
useful
way
of
approaching
it.
C
H
H
You
are
considering
the
following
and
it's
my
belief
that
that
my
leadership
throughout
the
city
on
those
issues
is,
it
pertains
to
a
major
issue
facing
the
city,
and
this
is
my
view
of
it
and
then
you'll
see
that
I
also
wrote
that
once
the
discussion
has
occurred,
if
the
mayor
wants
to
wants
to
update
his
message
or
her
message
on
that
subject,
free
to
do
so,
but
the
question
arose.
H
How
does
someone
decide
what's
a
major
issue
right
right
and
my
my
response
to
that
was
that's
exactly
why
we
elect
this
mayor
versus
that
one
and
mayoral
leadership
is
exactly
that:
calling
the
public,
the
private
sector,
as
well
as
the
public
sector
and
governmental
entities,
to
understand
that
this
or
that
is
of
major
concern
and
for
reasons,
and
so
we
we
judge
that
a
a
mayor
that
is
being
a
mayor
is
exactly
the
person
that
helps
the
city.
Understand
that
that's
the
major
issue.
C
Okay,
thank
you
all
right.
Are
there
more
questions
or
comments
on
this
section?
Yes,
commissioner,
Ives.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chairs.
It
was
curious
and,
as
we
jump
around
I'm,
going
to
try
and
be
very
specific
what
I'm
looking
at
so
that
anybody
who's
has.
The
document
in
front
of
them
can
see
it
as
well.
On
the
first
page,
under
Article,
5
governance,
there
is
a
side
comment
talking
about
veto
powers
and
just
serious
what
came
up
there.
What
the
sense
of
the
committee
was
because
I
did
not
see
anything
further
in
there
about
vetoes
and
and.
H
Overeating.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
that
that
question
arose
as
recently
as
yesterday
or
the
day
before,
and
we
believe
that
we
need
to
insert
it.
But
we
are
going
to
need
to
have
a
conversation
with
Council
as
to
see
exactly
how
and
where.
I
H
I
And
forgive
my
my
ignorance,
so
who
has
what
veto
power
and
who
overrides
what
veto
do
you
think
that's.
H
That
that's
exactly
what
we
need
to
discuss.
Okay,
the
issue
was
that
when
you
that
that,
when
you
divide
powers
like
this
and
you
have
a
clear
legislature,
the
the
the
head
of
state
of
the
city
has
has
some
veto
power,
but
can
be
overridden
by
the
legislature.
H
I
And
forgive
me
as
I
just
look
through
these
things
in
on
looking
at
page
two,
what
is
marked
as
new
subsection
e
mayor
Tim,
and
it
says
at
the
first
meeting
of
the
council
following
a
regular
city
election,
a
counselor
to
act
as
mayor
Pro
tem
until
the
the
next.
I
I
I
do
not
believe
I
will
say
that,
given
the
efforts,
what
I
would
describe
is
the
efforts
in
the
document
to
separate
out
the
legislative
function
and
the
executive
function,
because
I
know
later
on
it
talks
about
potentially
having
the
mayor
Pro
tem
act
as
the
chair
of
the
city
council,
that
that
seems
to
blend
back
that
issue
into
and
sort
of
eliminate
a
bit
of
the
separation
that
otherwise
the
committee
was
seeking
to
achieve.
I
So
just
a
a
thought
in
passing
on
that
I
think
that's
why
I
circled
it
on
my
on
my
drive
on
the
draft
I
haven't
in
front
of
me.
Thank
you.
Looking
at
vacancies
in
office,
which
is
Page
four
and
I'm,
assuming
we
all
have
the
same
pages
but
page
four,
subsection,
Capital
C.
At
the
end,
it
says
the
governing
body
shall
approve
or
disapprove
the
mayor's
appointment.
I
So
the
mayor
is
given
the
power
to
appoint
a
person
to
sit
throughout
the
remaining
term
of
the
position
that
came
vacant
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
it
was
worthwhile
at
all
to
have
the
other
City
councilor
from
that
particular
District.
Presumably
the
person
most
in
touch
with
other
members
of
the
particular
District
be
able
to
participate
some
way
in
that
selection
process,
so
throwing.
H
I
Just
as
I
said,
the
thoughts
passing
in
the
night
so
next
page
page
five
under
subsection
B.
This
is
with
regards
to
messages
received
from
the
mayor.
It
states
the
council.
I
H
H
What
if,
if
I
may,
commissioner
I.
H
Yeah
I
I
get
that
point,
but
I
I
am
also
interested
in
the
question
of
the
reason
this
is
here
is
that
in
one
of
the
very
early
meetings
of
the
commission,
the
comment
was
made
that,
during
the
last
review
of
the
charter,
a
concern
was
raised
about
the
possibility
that
some
mayor
may
allow
controversial
items
to
go
by
without
comment
and
duck
the
responsibility
of
having
an
opinion
when
the
going
is
tough
and
all
the
counselors
get
to
Bear
the
burden
and
the
mayor
doesn't
have
to
so.
H
This
was
an
attempt
to
say
that
when,
when
the
going
gets
rough,
the
the
mayor
gets
to
get
in
on
it
as
as
well
as
the
counselors
do.
I
That's
certainly
I
think
a
fair
point
and
and
a
good
one
and
don't
mean
to
preclude
that
happening
Anyway
by
what
I
would
say,
but
just
trying
to
detail
what
the
council
can
do
with
the
message
once
it
comes
so
yeah
and
I
at
least
those
are
the
moments
I
think
those
were
the
questions
and
comments
I
had
on
the
first
part
and
then
had
one
or
two
in
the
Finance
section,
but
I
suppose
I
I
should
have
started
this
all
about
saying.
Thank
you
for
doing
a
great
job
on
this.
I
H
C
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'm,
going
to
talk
about
financial
management,
section,
a
news
section
that
we
are
proposing
to
be
included
in
the
charter
and,
as
you've
heard
me
State
before
consistently
in
our
previous
conversations
that
clearly
budgeting
financing.
This
process
is
the
most
important
activity
undertaken
by
any
branch
of
government.
F
The
financial
planning
process
is
critical,
even
we
all
know
in
our
households,
in
our
homes
about
budgeting
things
go
awry,
and
so
we
felt
a
key
and
critical
that
this
function
be
outlined
and
elevated
to
the
level
of
inclusion
in
the
city
Charter,
which
is
our
constitution
for
our
organization,
which
guides
the
organization
on
on
on
how
things
should
be
looked
at.
F
So
we
have
resented
to
you
previously
an
outline
that
we
pulled
from
the
national
civic
league
and
in
our
subcommittee
polled
and
looked
at
this
outline
because,
as
you
all
know,
and
I'm,
just
repeating
this
for
the
public,
this
commission
voted
to
study
and
and,
if
necessary,
recommend
to
move
forward
a
section
of
financial
management
in
our
Charter.
And
so
we
looked
at
the
national
civic
league
model.
You've
all
seen
copies
of
that.
F
That's
a
12
section,
a
document
that
was
developed
by
the
national
civic
league
for
organizations
throughout
the
country
and
clearly
we
knew
going
in
by
looking
at
that.
It
would
include
items
that
were
very
generic
and
not
necessarily
specific
to
the
state
of
New
Mexico,
but
it
would
include
the
subject,
errors
that
we
could
choose
to
keep
and
and
those
not
to
keep.
F
We
looked
at
that
template
along
with
what
currently
exists
in
the
the
city,
the
city
of
Santa,
Fe,
Charter,
not
a
lot
existed
in
the
current
city
of
Santa
Fe
Charter
regarding
financial
management,
but
we
looked
at
them
together
and
those
12
sections
that
we
were
the
model
were
reviewed
very
carefully
and
I.
Just
cannot
say
enough
about
our
attorneys
and
the
level
of
detail
that
they
provided
to
us.
F
There's
information
in
the
regarding
Audits
and
I'm,
very
familiar
with
that
working
for
the
status
for
many
years
as
I
did
those
attorneys
caught
every
piece
of
that
they
listed
it.
They
said
this
is
what
really
needs
to
go
on
specific
information
that
outlines
what
needs
to
be
done
but
does
not
need
to
be
included
in
the
charter,
and
so,
as
a
result
of
the
detail
work,
the
the
attorneys
did.
F
We
were
able
to
fine-tune
that
12
section
template
to
a
seven
section
template
and
what
you
would
see
if
you
saw
the
the
version
that
we
we'd
finished
yesterday.
It's
a
seven
section
template
that
includes
areas
regarding
submission
of
the
budget.
It
includes
information
regarding
the
budget
message,
also
a
budget
plan
that
will
outline
the
requirements.
It
talks
about
budget
to
notice,
hearings
and
adoption.
F
It
gives
information
regarding
fiduciary
budget
oversight
and
it
outlines
Council
action
on
capital
budget
and
it
talks
about
the
independent
audit,
very
Global,
high-level
guiding
strategic
principles,
not
tactical
what
to
do
information
but
how
to
and
then
those
seven
sections
that
we
are
proposing
to
be
recommended
and
move
forward
will
also
include
the
sections
that
are
in
our
city
Charter
now
that
deal
with
investment,
procurement
and
audit.
So
those
all
together
will
create
a
new
section
in
the
Constitution
and
the
charter
that
we
are
recommending
for
approval
to
forward
to
the
city
council.
F
The
only
thing
I
might
add
is
those
sections
in
the
model
template
all
had
timelines
and
deadlines
for
things
that
need
to
be
done
and
I
I
will
say
the
the
language
that
we're
moving
forward
and
recommending
does
not,
but
I
believe
it
is
important
for
that
to
be
thought
about
and
considered,
because
when
you
have
timelines
for
certain
big
pieces
of
action
that
need
to
be
implemented,
it
helps
make
it
happen.
And
so
that's
the
only
thing.
F
That's
not
included
in
our
sections,
our
timelines,
but
in
some
cases
they
could
be
very
useful
and
maybe
be
the
measure
and
the
fence
post
to
keep
things
on
track.
I,
don't
think
I
have
anything
else
to
add.
I,
don't
want
to
go
into
a
lot
of
detail
because
I'm
looking
at
the
time-
and
we
have
a
lot
to
cover
and
I
try
to
be
mindful
of
that
and
and
it's
it's
financial
management
and
budgeting
is
pretty
straightforward
and
I
I.
C
That's
it
thanks.
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioner
Ortiz
into
this
committee
for
all
the
pivoting
that
you've
had
to
do
to
take
into
account
the
comments
and
the
analysis
that
has
been
done
by
the
city
attorneys
and
your
willingness
to
go
back
and
put
something
else
together
to
really
try
to
get
at
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
So
I
really
appreciate
all
the
hard
work.
I
know
all
the
commission
does,
and
the
council
all
right,
I
think
you
had
some
it's
about
this
section.
Commissioner
Ives,
you
said:
go
ahead.
I
Sorry
about
that
indeed,
many
thanks
for
bringing
this
forward,
because
I
think
it
will
certainly
facilitate
the
city's
budgeting
process
on
page
12
in
the
materials
which
was
the
first
page
in
the
finance
section.
There
is
that
reference
of
submit
to
the
finance
committee
and
the
council,
basically
the
budget
and
down
below
in
describing
the
budget
in
the
non-numbered
section,
but
the
section
entitled
budget.
I
It
says
a
financial
plan
of
All
City
funds
and
activities
for
the
ensuing
fiscal
year,
and
that
would
seem
to
include
by
definition,
the
capital
portion,
the
capital
outlay
portion
of
the
budget
and
at
least
in
I
believe
in
current
city
practice.
I
I
Where,
where
the
Public
Works
committee
sits
on
this,
so
that
was
just
a
general
comment
there
and
I
know
it
was
reflected
when
not
a
thought
or
two
back
in
age,
14,
section
entitled
city
council
action
on
Capital
program
and
so
a
thought
in
the
and
page
14,
the
section
after
that
on
Independent
audit.
It
says
the
city
council
shall
provide
for
an
independent
annual
audit
of
all
city
in
account
and
may
provide
for
more
frequent
audits
as
it
deems
necessary.
I
Then
it
says
the
council
show
by
ordinance
update
its
Financial
processes
and
accounting
systems
and
prioritize
budgetary
resources
to
staff
its
Financial
to
staff,
its
financial
services,
so
as
to
facilitate
timely
completion
of
audits,
all
of
which
is
fabulous
and
I.
I
Just
wonder
it
puts
that
burden
solely
on
the
council
here,
whereas
it's
the
mayor
and
the
city
manager
that
direct
that
staff
and
so
was
wondering
if
it
was
worthwhile,
adding
something
there
to
indicate
the
role
that
the
mayor
and
well
in
particular,
the
city
manager,
has
in
ensuring
that
it
is
fully
staffed
and
it's
a
budget
priority.
So
a
thought
on
a
possible
Edition
at
that
point.
In
the
document,
let's
see
and
I
wasn't
sure,
then,
on
the
top
of
the
next
page,
which
is
15.
I
It
talks
about
the
independent
audit
committee,
and
it
says
the
governing
body
in
this
case,
as
opposed
to
the
council,
so
I
wasn't
sure
if
the
intent
was
to
have
some
sort
of
relationship
with
the
the
mayor
there
or
if
he's
voting
on
how
that's
gets
created
as
just
a
little
unclear,
given
again
the
efforts
to
distinguish
the
executive
from
the
legislative
and
then
a
reference
to
the
governing
body
there,
which
is
certainly
how
it
has
been
done
in
the
past
and
I.
Think
those
were
all
my
questions.
I
F
You
I
know
those
comments
down.
Thank
you
and
that
last
comment,
some
of
that
language
is
current
language,
and
but
we
certainly
can
look
at
making
recommendations.
Thank
you.
H
Me
just
if
I
may
add
just
one
comment:
Madam
chair,
you
will
see
what
we
did
we
the
last
time
you
saw
this.
You
saw
a
five-page
document
and
it's
now
being
replaced
with
a
three-page
document
right.
A
H
C
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
clarification
and
yeah,
since
this
had
already
been
presented,
I.
C
G
When
I
was
reading
through
this
and
I'm
looking
back,
it
had
to
do
with
the
city
manager
and
in
one
place
it
said
that
the
mayor
could
could
fire
I,
guess
Jesus,
but
the
manager
just
straight
across
the
board.
But
then
in
another
place
it
said
that
there
was
there
was
going
to
be
required
of
vote.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
been
changed.
I'm.
Looking
here
and
I
see
the
mayor
with
the
consent
of
simple
majority
are
by
a
vote
of
six
counselors.
G
The
the
city
manager
may
be
suspended
or
removed,
but
it
seemed
like
in
another
place,
I
read
where
the
marriages
had
the
ability
to
do
that,
and
it
was
above
there,
commissioner,
Deirdre
and
I
think
it
was
I.
Think
maybe
there's
a
discrepancy
between
the
two
statements.
H
H
G
G
C
C
Thank
you.
Yes,
commissioner
ice.
I
Exactly
I
apologize
as
I
was,
as
we
were
flipping
back
with
commissioner
blondes's
Point
on
page
seven
under
the
city
manager
qualifications.
I
I
A
I
A
I
think
it's
messing
up
that,
but
yes,
something
like
that.
Thank
you
for
pointing
that
out.
H
H
J
Right,
thank
you.
Chair
and
I'll,
be
I'll,
be
very
brief
about
this.
There
hasn't
been
any
changes
really
on
this
section
about
initiatives.
Referendum
recall
since
the
last
time
we
talked
about
this
so
for
the
sake
of
the
members
of
the
public
that
may
be
listening
and
to
remind
my
colleagues
on
this
commission.
J
The
question
that
we
were
looking
at
here
is
how
easy
or
how
difficult
is
it
for
for
voters
of
Santa
Fe
to
get
something
on
the
ballot
if
the
governing
body
is
not
particularly
receptive
to
the
public,
wanting
something
on
the
ballot
or
how
easy
or
difficult
is
it
for
voters
of
Santa
Fe
to
we
have
a
referenda
in
place
for
when
they're
not
satisfied
with
a
vote
that
the
that
the
governing
body
has
has
taken.
J
So
if
you'll
remember,
our
previous
Charter
stated
that
there's
a
signature
requirement
right,
there's
always
a
signature
requirement.
You
got
to
gather
signatures
to
get
something
on
the
ballot,
whether
it's
an
initiative
or
a
referenda,
and
our
previous
Charter
had
that
Threshold
at
33
and
one-third
a
percent
of
the
vote.
The
number
of
votes
that
were
cast
in
the
last
mayoral
election
and
that
threshold
is
extremely
high.
J
You
know
most
cities
have
it
around
10,
or
so
we
decided
to
recommend
a
threshold
of
15
for
so
15
of
the
votes
that,
where
cast
in
the
last
mayoral
election,
to
be
the
number
of
signatures
required
to
put
something
on
the
ballot
as
a
as
an
initiative
or
a
referenda-
and
this
is
just
you
know
the
to
make
our
local
democracy
more
robust
democracy
by
the
people
for
the
people
of
the
people.
J
So
the
the
voters
have
a
say
when
they're
elected
representatives
are
not
particularly
responsive
to
their
to
their
wishes
and
their
needs.
So
that's
that's
the
change,
that's!
J
What
we
are
recommending
is
that
that
threshold
of
signatures
be
reduced
from
33
and
one-third
percent
to
15
percent,
and
then
the
other
piece
of
this
that
we're
not
recommending
any
changes
around
is
that
at
least
10
percent
of
those
signatures
are
from
each
one
of
our
districts,
so
that
there's
you
know
that
that
every
part
of
the
city
has
a
say
on
whether
something
should
be
on
the
ballot
and
then
for
the
question
about
a
recall
which
is
you
know
recalling
one
of
our
elected
officials,
we,
the
the
threshold.
J
There
is
also
33
and
one-third
percent
in
our
Charter
as
it
is
currently,
and
we
we
made
a
decision
that
that
is
adequate,
because
voters
do
have
recourse.
There
is
a
remedy,
if
there's
a
an
elected
official
that
is
just
not
doing
their
job.
That
is
you
know.
Voters
are
very
dissatisfied
with
somebody.
J
We
can
wait
until
their
term
is
over
and
they're
like
somebody
else,
so
there's
recourse
for
for
an
elected
official.
That's
not
really
up.
You
know
to
doing
their
job
in
a
way
that
is
satisfactory
to
the
community.
We're
leaving
that
section
alone
we're
just
recommending
to
lower
the
threshold
of
signature
requirement
for
initiative
and
referendum.
That's
that's!
It
I'll!
Leave
it
at
that
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
C
Thank
you
yes,
commissioner,
arrives.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
So
the
one
thing
I
noted
is
I
was
looking
at
the
the
proposed
changes
under
referendum.
It
refers
to
10
of
the
voters
and
then
the
last
line
says
the
city
clerk
shall
determine
the
number
of
actual
voters
at
the
last
mayoral
election
in
both
the
other
sections.
I
The
predicate
before
that
the
last
line
says
so,
for
instance,
under
initiatives.
It
said
at
least
10
percent
of
the
actual
voters
for
mayor,
and
that
could
be
a
somewhat
confusing
term.
One
could
say:
well
you
have
to
identify,
you
know
who
all
the
voters
specifically
were,
who
voted
for
mayor
and
then
get
10
percent
of
those
particular
people
which
I
suspected
was
not
what
you
intended
because,
generally
how
one
votes
is
not
subject
to
disclosure
and
something
that
is
kept
very
close
to
the
vest
in
elections
offices.
I
So
I
was
just
thinking
that
we
needed
to
make
some
sort
of
change
here
and
I
think
that
the
sentence
at
the
end
of
the
first
section
under
referendum,
which
says
the
city
clerk,
shall
determine
the
number
of
actual
voters
at
the
latest
mayoral
election.
That
means
just
the
number
of
people
who
voted
in
the
Mayoral
race
as
opposed
to
the
people
who
actually
voted
for
the
mayor.
I
So
just
yeah,
I
hadn't,
fully
thought
through
the
change
that
I
thought
would
clarify
that,
but
the
the
statement
under
referendum
I
think
is
pretty
decent.
So
if
we
potentially
change
the
other
two
to
take
out
the
first
reference
to
actual
voters
and
just
made
it
voters
that
that
would
probably
solve
the
problem,
but
that
was
that
was
my
thought
and
coming
to
the
community.
J
Thank
you,
commissioner.
That
makes
sense
to
me
and
I
guess,
packed
I'd
love
to
hear
your
thoughts
maybe
later,
but
do
we
even
need
that
actual
on
under
referenda,
like
should
it
just
say,
including
at
least
10
percent
of
the
voters
for
mayor
in
each
Council
District
in
the
last
mayoral
election,
the
city
clerk
shall
determine
the
number
of
Voters
per
District
that
the
last
mayoral
election
like
I'm,
not
sure
we
need
actual
there
I
think
that
is
a
confusing
term.
A
Yeah
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
that
that
word
is
necessary.
We
might
need
to
look
into
if
there's
a
reason
that
it's
there,
but
it
doesn't.
A
F
Yeah
Madam
and
chair
in
my
mind,
I'm,
seeing
it
it's
either
an
actual
voter
or
an
eligible
voter
and
I
think
they're,
making
a
distinction
as
to
they.
They
don't
want
just
the
number
of
eligible
people
to
vote.
They
want
to
know
how
many
people
voted
and
that
doesn't
necessarily
indicate
that
we
would
know
who
they
voted
for.
F
J
So
it's
who
actually
showed
up
to
vote
in
the
last
mayoral
election,
whether
they
voted
in
which
races
it
doesn't
matter,
but
the
voter
turnout
in
the
last
mineral
election
but
I
think
the
point
here
is:
we
need
to
clarify
this
language
in
terms
of
the
city.
Clerk
shall
determine
the
number
of
voters
per
District
right
because
we're
requiring
that
10
of
the
signatures
come
like
each
district
right
for
so
like.
J
We
need
not
just
the
number
of
Voters
for
the
whole
city
that
turned
out
in
the
last
mayoral
election,
but
also
per
District
right
and
Madam
chair.
Do
you
think?
Yes,
I
should
have
told
you
this
at
the
beginning,
but
I
need
to
leave
like
five
minutes
before
six
to
go
pick
up
my
son
so
I
apologize
about
that.
C
Oh
no,
no
problem
with
that.
Thank
you
for
letting
us
know.
Yeah
I
think
there's
some
cleanup
that
could
be
done
there.
It
makes
it
sound,
like
you
had
to
vote
for
mayor,
but
I
get
I
did
I.
Do
get
commissioner
Ortiz's
point
that
you
had
to
actually
go
vote.
You
couldn't
just
be
registered
and
eligible
so
and
I.
Think
Mr
Martinez
has
his
hand
up.
So
he
may
have
a
comment
about
this.
L
Yeah
and
just
looking
at
the
history
of
this
provision
and
the
charter
under
spizzin
rights,
there's
a
note
that
said
explained
what
the
change
was
from
a
prior
incarnation
of
the
charter
and
it
states
that
it
changed.
The
method
used
to
determine
the
number
of
petition
signatures
required
from
20
percent
of
registered
voters,
33
and
a
third
percent
of
actual
voters.
Voting
for
mayor
in
the
last
mayoral
election.
C
Okay,
so
commissioner
Ortiz
was
on
to
something
there,
that's
what
they
were
getting
to.
She
knows
her
voting.
Okay,
commissioner
blondes.
G
Just
very
briefly,
in
the
model
Charter,
it
says
exactly
what
attorney
Martinez
said
it
it's
using
the
word
registered
voters
clarifies
a
lot
I
think
registered
voters
of
the
city
equal
in
number
to
at
least
X
percent
of
the
total
number
of
registered
voters,
so
that
word
registered,
keeps
popping
up
in
the
model
Charter
under
petitions
and
number
of
signatures.
C
Okay,
but
it
sounds
like
an
R
Charter.
We
don't
for
these
Provisions
we're
looking
at
those
that
actually
voted,
not
just
registered
right,
okay,
but
then
we
made
that
distinction
in
the
last
go
round
on
this.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
Is
there
anything
else,
commissioner?
Deirdack
I
know
you've
got
the.
H
H
So
if
you'll
notice
that
the
heading
at
the
top
of
page
23.,
these
are
just
places
where
we
have
encountered
circumstances
in
the
City
by
looking
at
the
the
previous
discussions
that
we've
just
had,
and
we
looked
at
the
referrals
from
the
council
and
or
referrals
that
came
to
us
in
other
directions,
and
we
believed
that
the
city
council
needs
to
hear
from
us
about
them,
but
that
we
also
believe
that
ultimately,
Charter
amendments
are
not
the
appropriate
cure,
so
you'll
see
them
starting
there.
H
Where
you
see
in
the
box
where
it
says,
recommended
non-charter
actions,
these
are
just
recommendations
and
then
the
next
page
has
other
recommendations.
These
are
recommendations
that
where
we
were
asked
to
opine
about-
and
we
believe
for
one
reason
or
another
that
is
described
here-
that
this
is
perhaps,
though,
in
some
cases
the
wrong
time
to
do
it,
it
may
be.
It
may
be
the
right
time
to
do
it
in
a
subsequent
Charter
revision,
but
it
is
for
some
practical
reason
or
structural
reason
premature
at
this
time.
H
H
C
Well,
I'm
I
was
just
wondering
whether
it
encompassed
Mr
Johnson's
recommendation
on
policy
regarding
due
process
and
impartiality
for
these
I
I
hear.
H
Your
point
maybe.
C
H
Like
us
to
look
at
that,
we
will
and
I
appreciate
it,
as
you
did
seeing
his
text
that
that
he
presented
an
hour
ago.
C
Well,
maybe
yeah
we
can
get
to
that
when
we
get
to
any
additional
matters.
Sure.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,
we'll
go
on
to
consideration
of
proposals
by
the
subcommittee
on
human
rights
and
social
issues
and
the
chair
of
that
committee,
commissioner.
Ives.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
that
we
had
three
items
that
had
been
submitted
for
potential
consideration
today
and
Madam
chair.
I
Just
a
point
of
order,
in
terms
of
we
have
talked
in
in
past
meetings,
that
this
is
the
seen
as
the
opportunity
to
get
items
out
to
the
public
so
that
they
can
actually
weigh
in
because
we
haven't
really
created
many
mechanisms
and
have
had
one
two
or
three
folks
who
have
sort
of
been
following
along
closely
to
the
point
of
providing
recommended
topics
and
other
things
to
the
commission.
To
consider.
I
Are
we
voting
today
to
in
the
send
items
to
the
city
council,
or
is
this
for
the
purpose
of
getting
it
more
broadly
out
to
the
public?
So
it
can
be
considered
and
we
can
get
feedback
before
making
a
final
recommendation
to
the
Council
of
measures
that
we
want
to
put
forward.
C
C
I
think
the
Committees
might
meet
again
before
the
next
meeting,
I'm
hoping
the
subcommittees,
but
no
no
vote
on
them
as
anticipated
tonight
now
we've
got
written
recommendations
that
we
can
get
out
there
and
and
hopefully
we'll
get
some
further
comment
on
at
our
next
meeting
and
we'll
see
where
we
are
then.
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
the
first
item
we
were
bringing
forward
was
the
proposed
changes
to
section
2.01
in
the
charter,
which
is
the
the
series
of
policy
recommendations,
and
this
is
the
on
human
and
civil
rights,
and
let
me
just
State
great
appreciation
to
the
commissioner
blandus
for
drafting
here
and
sort
of
shepherding
this
this
forward.
I
So
the
in
the
document
you
have
before
you,
you
see
the
number
of
additions
and
deletions
the
effect
of
which
would
be
to
create
within
the
Human
Rights
Commission,
and
it
indicates
that
at
the
bottom
of
the
first
page,
the
Human
Rights
Commission
show
up
five
Commissioners
each
serving
a
two-year
term
except
two
Commissioners
drawn
by
law
God,
who
shall
initially
survey
one
year
term
in
order
that
there
be,
if
you
will,
a
sort
of
rolling
there'll
always
be
some
retained
knowledge
on
the
commission
through
time
as
Commissioners
come
and
go,
and
one
commissioner
from
each
Council
District
shall
be
appointed
by
consensus
of
the
two
councilors
from
that
district,
and
one
commissioner
shall
be
appointed
by
the
mayor.
I
I
Statement-
and
there
were
a
number
of
attachments
that
folks
wanted
to
see
some
of
the
materials
that
the
committee
had
been
looking
at
while
coming
to
this.
This
draft,
and
by
recognizing
commissioner
blondus
I,
certainly
don't
mean
to
exclude
commissioner
Perez
or
commissioner
granillo,
as
they
have
both
been
attentive
at
meetings,
but
commissioner
blandus
did
offer
to
undertake
the
the
drafting.
So
that's
why
I
called
that
out,
but
not
trying
to
leave
anybody
out.
I
So
you
know,
the
sense
is
that
the
issue
of
human
rights
in
this
in
our
country
in
in
our
world,
certainly
in
our
city
as
well,
is
significant
enough
that
it
is
a
topic
that
the
people
of
Santa
Fe
should
have
opportunity
to
weigh
in
on
not
not
to
mean
that
they're
elected
representatives,
the
city
council
and
the
mayor
are
incapable
of
looking
at
these
issues.
I
We
have
certainly
seen
the
nation's
steps
at
the
council
with
the
preliminary
introduction
of
for
the
Korea
of
a
resolution
creating
the
office
of
equity
and
inclusion,
which
at
this
point
in
time
not
sure
if
it
was
tabled.
But
clearly
folks
are
thinking
more
about
that
process.
But
it
seemed
yes.
I
Withdrawn,
thank
you.
So
it's
it's
been
withdrawn,
which
suggests
that,
and
most
of
that
I
suspect
was
due
to
the
fact
that
or
significant
portion
due
to
the
fact
that
the
resolution
primarily
seemed
to
address
the
Obelisk
on
the
Plaza,
which
we
know
to
be
a
very
contentious
issue
within
our
community.
But
it
highlights
the
reason
that
a
Human,
Rights
Commission,
in
fact
we
believe,
would
be
a
good
next
step
for
the
city
to
adopt.
I
We
have
certainly
issues
relating
to
colonialism
issues
relating
to
Conquest
issues
relating
to
the
fiesta,
the
the
and
all
sorts
of
things,
as
well
as
being
a
sanctuary
City.
So
the
issues
of
the
rights
of
immigrants
and
others.
The
these
issues
just
abound
and
I'm
not
meaning
to
leave
anybody
out,
because
there
are
issues
relating
to
transgender
individuals,
the
lbgt
community
and
others.
I
But
it's
an
issue
that
is
persistent
in
our
society
and
having
a
commission
at
the
city
dedicated
to
looking
at
those
issues
and
really
promoting
the
city's
perspective,
which
is
one
of
inclusion,
which
is
one
of
respect
for
the
diversity
of
all
the
cultures
and
that's
beyond
the
Native
American.
The
Hispanic
and
the
Anglo,
as
we
do
have
Asian
members.
We
have
Tibetan
members,
we
have
African-American
members
a
whole
panoply
of
people
that
make
up
our
community
in
our
city,
so
this
is
the
language
they
had
come
up
with.
I
We
had
a
case
statement
that
spoke
to
some
of
the
issues
that
I've
just
referenced
and
I
will
say
this.
Is
this
identifying
creating
Equity
limited,
really
looking
hard
at
these
issues
has
become
more
and
more
significant
around
the
country.
So
let
me
pass
it
on
to
other
members
at
the
in
the
committee
to
speak
as
they
would
like,
and
let
me
start
with
commissioner
blondes.
G
On
now,
I
believe
that
commissioner
Ives
explained
everything
quite
effectively
just
one
point
that
I
would
reiterate,
and
that
is
that
and
rebuttal.
G
If
there
were
an
argument
against
an
appointment
of
a
commission
or
a
statement
that
says
there
shall
be
my
rebuttal
and
there's
someone
says
well,
why
would
that
be
in
the
charter
and
I
would
point
out
that,
although
we
were
anticipating
an
office
of
inclusion,
diversity,
I,
don't
know
I
can't
remember
what
the
EA
was,
but
anyway
that
went
away,
it
was
withdrawn,
and
so
if
there-
and
so
there
is
not
automatically
going
to
be
that
sort
of
office
and
as
I
pointed
out
in
my
justification,
different
Administration
may
have
different
priorities
and
an
office
alone.
G
Standalone
office
is
only
as
effective
as
the
budget
that's
assigned
to
that
office.
So
without
some
sort,
without
a
statement
that
a
commission
shall
be,
it
can
come
and
go
depending
on
budget
and
administration.
I
Why
don't
we
go
commissioner
Perez
there?
You
are.
I
So
Madam
chair,
that
is
the
presentation
on
this
first
one
Happy
committee
is
happy
to
try
and
respond
to
any
questions
that
folks
might
have
at
this
point
in
time.
Yeah
are.
C
I
Very
good,
the
second
item
that
was
in
your
packet-
and
this
was
something
we
discussed
towards
the
end
of
the
last
meeting-
concerns
were
raised
primarily
by
members
of
the
human
rights
and
social
issues
committee
that
the
Charter
review,
an
amendment
or
Charter
process
also
likely
should
be
modified
to
make
it
more
robust
in
participatory.
I
We
were
concerned
that,
and,
and
while
we
deeply
appreciate
those
people
who
have
been
following
along
and
attending,
and
certainly
great
to
have
the
newspapers
here
today
to
put
out
reports
on
what
we're
doing
for
the
public,
we
haven't
had
the
opportunity
to
hold
public
meetings
in
all
the
districts
and
around
the
city
to
try
and
engage
the
public
in
this
process,
and
that,
of
course,
was
at
some
level
the
charge
of
the
city
council
when
they
said
that
we
were
to
consider
items
brought
To
Us
by
the
public
and
so
really
in
an
effort
to
try
and
make
this
more
robust.
I
And
given
the
fact
that
the
charter
commission
generally
only
happens
once
every
10
years,
though,
it
could
be
more
often
if
necessary,
that
we
wanted
to
try
and
Define
a
process
that
would
result
in
Greater,
public,
Outreach
and
participation.
You
know
I
think
it
some
of
our
first
meetings.
We
discussed
the
question
of
a
budget
I'm,
not
sure
we
heard
back
on
that
and,
of
course
well.
We
certainly
appreciate
everybody
on
staff
who
has
been
assisting
the
Commission
in
its
work.
I
You
know
we
had
two
of
our
members
who
are
charged
with
doing
some
of
the
work
for
the
commission
depart,
so
there
just
seems
to
be
a
need
for
a
a
more
robust
process,
and
so
I
had
done
this
drafting
that
you
have
before
you,
which
is
essentially
a
kept.
I
The
first
sentence
of
the
existing
Charter
section
identified
as
10.01
Charter
review
and
added
struck
the
second
sentence,
which
was
the
only
other
sentence
in
the
in
the
section
at
that
point
and
added
the
following,
which
is
that
it'll
consist
of
nine
members.
Each
city
council
will
shall
select
one
member
of
the
commission
and
the
mayor
shall
select.
The
ninth
member,
the
selected
commissioner
she'll,
elect
one
of
their
members
to
be
a
chair
and
a
second
one
of
their
members
to
be
the
vice
chair
of
the
commission.
I
The
commission
once
selected
Shall
Serve
for
a
one-year
term,
so
the
commission
I'm
sorry
once
selected
the
sorry
I'm
getting
lost.
I
My
happy
is
very
small
in
my
capacity
to
read,
Small
Things
is
diminished,
but
the
commission
so
once
selected,
Shall
Serve
for
a
year
one
year
term,
so
the
commission
shall
be
selected
is
set
forth
and
I
think
I
meant
to
put
15-month
term,
as
that
seemed
to
be
an
appropriate
amount
of
time
for
the
commission
to
get
started,
to
engage
in
public
meetings
at
the
beginning
of
the
process.
I
Secure
Public
comment
and
then
start
in
Earnest
the
consideration
of
amendments
to
the
to
the
Charter
and
and
also
indicating
that
a
sum
of
50
000
shall
be
made
available
as
a
budget
for
the
commission.
I
would
point
it
out
that
if
five
thousand
dollars
were
set
aside
every
year,
you
do
that
for
10
years.
You'd
have
that
amount
of
money
set
aside
and
five
thousand
dollars.
I
did
a
rough
calculation
I
think
it's
one,
ten
thousandth
or
one
one
hundred
thousand
of
the
the
city's
total
budget.
I
So
it's
a
it's
a
very
small
amount
in
the
great
scheme
of
things
and
going
on
the
city.
Shall
staff
commission,
with
a
designated
City
attorney
no
fewer
than
two
staffers
to
perform
research
and
drafting
functions
for
the
commission?
The
city
shall
advertise
the
creation
of
the
commission
and
its
function,
setting
up
a
separate
page
on
the
city's
web
page
for
the
submission
of
proposed
amendments
from
the
public.
I
The
city
shall
hold
no
less
than
two
meetings
in
each
of
the
four
city
council
districts
within
the
first
four
months
after
the
commission
is
selected
for
the
purpose
of
taking
input
from
the
public.
The
commission
shall
report
its
recommended
amendments
to
the
Charter
to
the
governing
body
or,
if
it's
to
the
council,
based
upon
other
proposed
changes
to
the
to
the
Charter
that
are
we're
looking
at
no
less
than
the
first
week
of
June
prior
to
the
election,
when
any
such
amendments
are
to
be
considered.
I
Any
recommendation
put
forth
by
the
commission
unless
prohibited
by
law
or
of
significant
doubt
as
to
its
legality,
shall
be
given
to
the
voters
at
the
next
action
unless
the
governing
body
or
Council
as
it
were,
does
not
approve
it
by
a
vote
of
no
less
than
six
members
of
the
governing
body.
So
looking
for
a
super
majority
to
vote
against
something
that
is
put
forward
by
the
Commission
in
terms
of
going
to
the
public
at
the
next
election.
I
So
with
that,
let
me
turn
to
other
members,
and
let
me
this
time
start
with
the
commissioner
granillo,
because
I
know
this
was
an
issue,
a
particular
significance
to
yes,.
D
Thank
you,
Mr
Ives.
D
D
I
would
just
like
to
see
more
of
the
community
involved
into
this
process
and
I
think
the
budget
would
suffice
to
be
able
to
do
different
things
to
secure
things
in
the
community.
So
I
just
greatly
appreciate
everybody
putting
it
together
in
my
team,
because
I
was
disheartened
at
the
beginning
and
now
I
feel
much
obliged
to
be
like.
We
can
move
forward
with
this
and
really
get
our
hands
into
the
community
and
that's
what
I
love
the
most,
because
at
the
end,
I
feel
that
we're
public
servants.
I
Thank
you,
commissioner
Neo.
Let
me
go
to
commissioner
Perez
for
any
comments.
J
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Ives
I
appreciate
this
very
much.
We
had
talked
about
the
importance
of
making
space
for
Community
engagement
and
Community
input
and
I
think
this
is
a
good
start
in
in
the
other
subcommittee.
We
have
talked
about
perhaps
like
a
10-month
appointment
to
this
commission.
J
We're
talking
about
15
months
here,
I
think
somewhere
in
that
realm
would
be
good,
I,
guess
and
I
love
the
idea
of
of
having
like
a
budget
dedicated
to
that
process
right
to
engage
in
community,
because,
if
we're
going
to
be
engaging
with
different
community-based
organizations
that
that
work
with
different
constituencies
in
our
city,
it
always
helps
to
you
know
to
like
give
them
a
little
mini
grants
so
that
they
can
engage
their
members
and
and
hold
those
conversations
so
I,
yeah
I.
Second,
what
commissioner
granillo
said
this
is.
J
This
is
a
great
start
to
to
ensuring
that
we'll
have
Better
Community
participation,
engagement
on
this
important
process
next
time
around.
So
thank
you
so
much.
I
Thank
you,
commissioner,
Perez
and
I
was
before
moving
to
commissioner
blundis
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
the
reference
to
a
one-year
term
actually
in
the
context
of
what
is
set
forth
here
makes
sense,
as
presumably
the
commission
would
be
formed
15
months
prior
to
the
election.
I
But
if
we
reported
in
June
before
the
election
in
November,
that's
the
sort
of
three
to
four
months
difference
between
a
year
on
the
Commission
in
fact,
versus
when
the
commission's
work
will
be
done
completed
and
then
go
to
the
voters.
So,
commissioner,
blondes.
G
Okay,
thank
you.
I
think
this
is
very
well
written,
commissioner,
Ives
and
very
thorough
and
I.
Think
I
think
it
needs
to
be
spelled
out
delineated
step
by
step,
I'm
heartened
by
the
fact
that
we
would
have
four
opportunities
within
the
various
districts
to
have
public
input.
I
think
when
we
meet
in
a
district
people
come
I
can
certainly
attest
to
that
with
the
South
Side
Library,
and
when
commissioner
Ortiz
was
investigating
District
changes
and
boundaries,
there
was
turnout
at
Southside,
Library
and
I.
G
We
need
to
get
the
public
engaged.
That
was
one
thing
that
the
model
Charter
went
on
for
pages
about
how
important
and
how
necessary
it
is
important
for
municipalities
to
engage
their
residents
and
I'm
also
very
excited
to
think
that
two
staffers
would
be
helping
with
all
the
research
and
the
writing
that
that
would
go
into
this
as
it
has.
This
time
and
I,
just
I
I,
really
think
this
is
a
very
important
Amendment
and
I
heartily
support
what
is
said
within
it
and
what
has
been
written.
G
I
So
Madam
chair
that
completes
our
submission
to
the
commission
and
if
there
are
any
questions
happy
to
try
and
Tackle
those
at
this
point
in
time
and
and
I
would
note,
you
know,
we
were
late
in
getting
these
items
to
City
Attorney
at
the
city
attorney's
office,
which
we
apologize
for
and
I
suspect
that
spring
break
certainly
played
into
my
life
with
grandkids
and
it
may
have
played
into
other
folks
life
either
on
the
commission
or
on
staff.
I
So
there
may
be
comments
yet
to
come
from
the
city,
attorney's
office
and
Marcos
I.
Don't
know
if
you
have
any
now
on
on
either
the
first
two
that
we've
discussed
but
happy
to
have
you
say
anything
you
might
want
to
as
well.
L
Thank
you,
I
always
want
to
say
councilor
Ives,
Peter
eyes,
Peter
I
apologize,
also
I
was
out,
I
was
out
of
the
country
actually
and
not
back
until
Tuesday,
so
I
hadn't
had
a
chance
to
provide
you
comments.
I've
started
drafting
a
few
comments
and
I
will
get
those
to
you.
Hopefully
tomorrow,
if
not
sooner
good,.
C
All
right,
thank
you,
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
I
do
really
appreciate
your
your
work.
As
with
the
other
committee,
and
you
know,
I
know,
a
lot
goes
behind
all
of
this
and
you've
spent
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
time
on
it
and
Michener
Perez
is
doing
dual
Duty
on
both
committees,
and
it's
really.
It
is
appreciated
so
I.
C
What
I
was
hearing
if
I
heard
correctly,
commissioner
Ives,
is
that
it.
Your
proposal
really
adds
some
more
autonomy,
maybe-
or
you
know,
strength
to
the
commission's
work
in
that,
if
the
recommendations
are
not
adopted
by
the
council
has
to
be
by
a
super
majority.
Is
that
correct.
I
Yes,
the
the
majority
of
six
counselors
voting
against
the
adoption
of,
or
at
least
the
presentation
to,
the
public
in
the
election
of
any
items
put
forward
by
the
commission.
Okay,.
C
H
C
We
had
very
little
time
as,
as
we
all
know,
and
you
have
two
meetings
a
month
and
then
you
have
committee
meetings
in
the
middle
of
all
of
that
it
was
done
a
lot
of
work
considering
that
kind
of
process,
but
I
think
if,
if
the
commission
were
to
meet
for
a
year
or
even
longer,
I
think
that's
warranted
that
those
recommendations
should
be
only
seriously
disagreed
with
if
they're
you
know
conforming
with
with
law
and
representative
of
of
public
issues.
C
Okay,
are
there
any
other
questions
for
this
committee?
This
committee's
presentation?
Thank
you
very.
I
Much
and
then
Madam
chair
I
did
have
the
Agriculture
and
hunger
item,
which
would
be
which
I'm
happy
to
jump
into
and
I
can
certainly
do
that
quickly.
Okay,.
I
Great
so
also
in
your
packets,
you
received
a
an
item:
titled
Agriculture
and
hunger,
which
proposes
an
amendment
to
the
city
Charter
in
article
two,
a
new
section
which
reads
having
sufficient
and
nutritious
food
readily
available
to
the
people
of
Santa
Fe
is
a
key
component
of
the
sustainability
of
our
community.
It
is
an
essential
element
of
good
health
at
every
age,
including
our
school
age,
children
and
our
elders,
who
often
do
not
have
sufficient
readily
available
nutritious
food.
I
There
is
some
of
the
research
that
went
behind
it
talking
about
the
fact
that
hunger
is
experienced
in
our
community,
a
few
statements
at
the
beginning,
talking
about
looking
at
the
hunger
and
having
food
as
a
human
right,
a
basic
human
right,
which
is
in
traffic
traction
across
much
of
the
world,
identifying
the
need
within
our
community
sort
of
quoting
from
the
various
groups
that
have
been
looking
at
this
issue
within
our
community,
as
well
as
some
information
on
a
broader
scale.
I
I
then
included
just
by
way
of
an
example,
to
give
folks
a
sense
of
what
might
be
done
of
a
form
of
resolution
that
what
that
the
city
might
be
able
to
use
in
crafting
ordinances.
That
would
further
the
capacity
to
ensure
that
there
is
sufficient
and
an
available
food
for
all
of
our
citizens
and
then
a
more
full
statement
in
the
appendices
of
the
statement
of
the
various
groups
who
were
quoted
in
the
piece.
I
So
it's
basically
identifying
the
right
to
food
and
nutrition
as
a
basic
human
right
and
suggesting
a
pathway
that
would
be
sustainable
within
the
city
for
trying
to
meet
those
needs
as
we
move
forward.
I
So
let
me
again
open
it
up
to
members
of
the
committee
and
this
time
let
me
start
with
commissioner
Perez.
If,
if
you
had
comments
and
thoughts,
please.
J
Thank
you,
commissioner.
My
thoughts
are
wonderful,
I'm,
so
pleased
to
see
this
and
it's
such
an
important
issue
and
that's
all
I
have
thank
you.
I
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Let
me
again
jump
to
commissioner
granillo
just
because
again
I
know
he
actually
operates
one
of
the
few
Farms
that
is
I,
think
it's
just
outside
City
Limits,
but
and
it's
deeply
involved
in
feeding
people
within
the
city
of
Santa
Fe.
Commissioner,.
D
Thank
you,
sir.
This
to
me
is
like
another.
You
know
joyous
part
of
of
working
with
the
committee,
because
I
really
think
that
putting
food
in
front
of
people
healthy
food
at
that
is
a
basic
human
right
and
the
opportunity
to
get
it
throughout
the
community.
So
I'm
excited
to
see
and
hope
that
this
passes.
G
I
think
this
is
this
is
an
exciting
Amendment
to
the
Charter,
because
we
are
taking
a
step
that
set
Santa
Fe
ahead
of
many
places
in
recognizing
in
the
richest
country
in
the
world.
We
have
hungry
children
living
here
and
to
do
whatever
we
can
as
a
model
City
to
change
that
is,
is
so
very
exciting
and
I.
Think
the
the
first
right
under
at
the
at
the
beginning
of
this
presentation,
the
right
to
food
is
recognized
in
1948.,
the
universal
Direction
Declaration
of
Human
Rights.
I
And
I
know
Marcos
this
one
I
figured
you
will
have
have
things
to
say
once
you
have
the
opportunity
to
look
at
it
as
that
gets
into
an
area
in
our
constitution.
The
anti-donation
Clause
that
certainly
plays
in
here,
but
I
tried
to
outline,
at
least
in
part,
why
I
thought
in
a
targeted
way
it
escaped
the
prohibition
and
Falls,
within
the
exception,
for
caring
for
the
Indigent
in
in
the
New
Mexico
Constitution
so
and
Madam
chair.
Thank
you.
That's
what
we
got
thank
you.
You've.
C
F
Ortiz,
yes,
I
I,
do
have
a
comment
and
and
on
all
of
the
presentation
and
I
can
see
how
hard
you
all
worked
and
what
good
information
you
provided
us,
but
I'm
I'm,
happy
to
hear
and
to
understand
that
this
has
yet
to
be
reviewed
by
the
attorneys
in
detail
and
I
know
when
they
looked
at
our
stuff.
F
Your
attorneys
did
an
awesome
job
about
about
helping
us
filter
out
and
hone
into
the
actual
pieces
that
belong
into
a
charter
into
a
constitution
as
I
look
over
the
material
that
that
you
all
provided
is
excellent
and
clearly
clearly
dealing
with
extremely
meritorious
issues
and
and
pieces
of
subject
matter.
That
is
very
important
to
our
city.
F
They
seem
really
really
specific
and
prescriptive,
and
and
talk
a
lot
about
more
of
what
should
be
done
as
opposed
to
how
I
see
a
charter
talking
about
how
government
should
work
so
I'm,
anxious
to
see
what
the
attorneys
say,
because
I
want
us
to
be
able
to
to
align
all
of
the
recommendations
that
go
from
this
commission
to
the
city
council
with
those
matters
that
truly
are
constitutional,
Charter
strategic.
F
How
government
should
work
information,
so
I'm,
looking
forward
to,
even
though
I
had
a
lot
of
questions
I
held
back
because
I
want
to
see
what
the
attorneys
tell
us
so
I'm
looking
forward
for
that
to
be
done,
and
so
that
we
can
move
forward
with
sending
what
what
makes
sense-
and
that
is
prescriptive
in
terms
of
how
government
should
work
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
comment
and
I
look
forward
to
the
attorney's
review.
Thank
you.
C
Okay,
we
will
go
on
to
new
topics
for
consideration
by
the
commission,
I'm
wondering
if
the
commission
is
interested
in
voting
to
refer
Mr,
Johnson's
proposal
to
consider
that
and
then
I
would
refer
it
to
the
governance
committee.
If
there
is
a
motion.
C
I
know
we
didn't
have
it
exactly
and
but
it
was
emailed
to
us
exactly
the
text.
Yes,
commissioner,
Ice.
I
The
community
has
certainly
experienced
a
number
of
recent,
especially
land
use
cases
that
had
involved
significant
controversy,
and
there
have
been
statements
made
by
various
people
during
that
that
address
issues
of
equity,
of
fairness
of,
if
you
will,
what
the
significant
well
well,
how
the
land
use
Department
what
it
is
that
they
do
when
they're
bringing
a
proposal
forward
and
so
I
think
this
issue
is
one
that
is
very
significant
throughout
the
community
at
this
point
in
time
and
so
presents
I
think
an
opportunity
for
this
commission
to
look
at
what
we
know
to
be
a
significant
issue
and
try
and
guide
it
towards
a
process
that
I
believe
the
entire
Community
would
see,
is
fundamentally,
fair
and
and
just
and
if
you
will
quite
frankly,
unbiased
so
I
I
think
it
is
important.
I
I
certainly
would
love
to
weigh
in
on
this.
Having
had
some
first-hand
experience
testifying
at
one
of
those
seatings
and
so
I
think
it
is
very
worthwhile
to
take
up
to
consider
and
to
potentially
propose
a
charter
amendment
in
connection
with
and
certainly
happy
having.
It
go
to
governance,
but
I
will
say
it
does
deal
with
issues
of
fairness
and
equity
in
the
processes
that
are
engaged
in
so
yeah
I.
A
I
The
the
the
sort
of
social
issues
and
human
rights
also
has
some
interest
in
that.
For
those
reasons,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
C
I
agree:
it
could
really
be
considered
by
either
committee
I
thought,
with
with
Pat
really
Staffing,
that
governance
committee
and
that's
her
area
that
it
might
be
a
good
fit.
That's
why
I
was
suggesting
that.
But
okay,
then,
is
that
emotion?
Yes,.
I
C
C
Motion
would
be
as
I
understand
it
to
consider
the
proposed
Charter
amendment
that
was
proposed
by
Mr
Johnson.
Have
the
commission
consider
it
and
then
it'll
be
referred
to
a
committee
first
for
review,
which.
B
Committee,
will
it
go
to
chair,
so
I
can
put
it
in
the
motion.
Okay,.
B
B
Right
I'm,
sorry,
madam
chair
was
the
second
commissioner
granillo.
C
B
F
Ortiz
yes,
Madam
chair,
we
also
received
an
a
letter
from
Beryl
brechner
that
was
suggesting
and
talked
about
open
meetings,
Act
and
the
fact
that
it
is
mentioned
and
addressed
in
a
city
resolution,
and
he
goes
on
to
say
it's
embodied
in
a
resolution
that
doesn't
really
have
any
standing.
F
He
suggests
that
maybe
the
charter
make
it
clear
that
all
bodies
of
city
government,
including
those
establishes
advisory
and
nature,
such
as
committees,
commission,
special
committees,
tax
forces,
well
comply
with
the
state
open
meeting
act,
I
I
think
that's
a
very
valid,
highlight
and
I
think
it's
something
that
you
know
all
agencies
in
the
government's
the
state
government
have
to
comply
and
I
think
it.
It
clearly
is
a
charter,
material
and
I.
F
Don't
think
it
would
be
a
very
time
consuming
effort
to
look
at
that
and
and
develop
language
for
inclusion.
If
this
commission
decides
to
put
that
that
law
into
our
Charter
as
part
of
the
guiding
authority
of
how
this
city
should
operate,
so
I
will
be
happy
to
make
a
motion
if,
after,
if
you
want
discussion
or,
however,
you
want
to
handle
that
Madam
chair.
C
I
Having
dealt
professionally
where
they
were
in
meetings
at
from
many
different
contexts,
it
certainly
is
a
burden
on
the
process
of
government,
but
it
is
a
burden
which
certainly
our
legislature
and
I,
suspect.
The
vast
majority
of
people
fundamentally
agree
with,
because
transparency
and
accountability
in
government
is
significant.
I
The
open
meetings
act
carves
out
various
exceptions
from
its
rule
I.E,
so
it
allows
for
the
conduct
of
closed
meetings
and
appropriate
circumstance,
and
the
attorney's
General's
office
through
the
compliance
guide,
has
weighed
in
on
a
very
robust
process
to
be
followed
in
closing
a
meeting
and
and
what
can
and
cannot
be
done.
So
there
are
many
safeguards.
I
just
want
to
say.
There
are
many
safeguards
within
the
open
meetings.
I
Act
for
matters
that
are
appropriately
should
appropriately
be
not
necessarily
discussed
in
public,
and
you
know,
relating
to
Personnel
matters
relating
to
contract
matters
before
contracts
are
signed
so
and
then
it
carves
out
a
number
of
exceptions,
so
I
think
it's
very
worthwhile
for
us
to
have
that
in
the
charter
and
wholeheartedly
agree
with
commissioner
Ortiz
that
that
is
appropriate
and
important.
C
All
right,
any
other
discussion
on
this
motion
to
include
this
item.
I
think
it
is
one
too,
as
as
commissioner
Ives
has
pointed
out,
there
is
governing
state
law
and
City
resolution
and
and
rules
dealing
with
this
so
having
a
a
good
look
at
it
by
our
city.
Attorneys
will
be
very
helpful
all
right.
Let's
call
for
a
vote
on
this
matter.
G
G
I
I
It's
it's
not
new,
but
in
the
minutes
of
our
last
meeting
you
may
recall
that
the
commission
had
signed
a
question
that
had
been
raised
by
commissioner
blundus
with
regards
to
the
references
to
use
of
water
in
connection
with
development.
Quite
frankly,
we
haven't
secured
Those
portions
of
the
code
that
deal
with
those
issues
to
be
able
to
bring
it
back
to
the
full
commission,
but
would
hope
to
do
that
at
our
next
meeting,
with
any
recommendation
in
connection
with
that.
So,
okay.
C
G
I
just
wanted
to
read
a
statement.
That's
in
the
appendix
the
second
appendix
of
the
model,
City
Charter
I've
I've
found
this
to
be
a
quite
a
strong
statement
about
what
we're
about
a
charter
is
the
foundation
of
a
local
government
and
functions
as
the
municipal
equivalent
of
a
state
and
federal
Constitution
setting
forth
guiding
principles
for
governance.
It
establishes
the
framework
for
how
a
local
government
operates
in
terms
of
its,
and
this
is
the
important
part
to
me
not
only
its
structure
but
its
responsibilities,
its
functions
and
its
processing
and
I.
C
All
right,
Matters
from
the
chair,
I,
do
not
have
any
other
than
to
again.
Thank
you
all
for
all
of
your
hard
work
and
considerable
efforts
to
I
feel
like
we've
made
a
lot
of
progress
and
advances
in
the
last
two
months,
and
it's
because
of
all
of
you.
C
Our
next
meeting
is
Thursday
April
13,
and
that
is
in
the
city,
council,
chambers
and
oh
I
would
just
say
if,
if
Pat,
if
you
can
get
me,
the
contact
information
for
our
new
commission
member
I
will
get
in
touch
with
her
and
try
to
fill
her
in
on
where
we
are
and
see
what
we
can
do
to
get
her
orientation
all
right,
I
will
I
will
get
that
for
you.