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B
B
D
B
Couldn't
hear
you
lost
you
for
a
minute
and
we've
lost
our
video
too.
So
repeat
that
name
I
called
commissioner.
B
A
I
will
go
check
on
that
now.
Yes,
let
me
just
go
check.
F
It
it
may
be
just
on
your
end,
commissioner
Martin
it
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
participate
through
Zoom
or
through
YouTube,
so
perhaps
best
for
us
to
wait
and
make
sure
it's
not
a
problem.
On
our
end.
C
A
B
H
H
B
Next
on,
our
agenda
is
approval
of
minutes,
and
these
are
the
minutes
from
our
February
9
2023
Charter
review
commission
meeting.
Does
anyone
have
any
revisions
they
want
to
suggest
for
the
minutes
and,
if
not
emotion,
to
approve.
B
I
B
B
D
Thank
you,
members
of
the
commission
Madam
chair.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
your
time
and
work
on
this
commission.
D
The
shortcomings
were
apparent
in
these
high
profile
cases
of
exemplary
public
interest,
because
elected
officials
were
restricted
from
hearing
from
their
constituents
in
matters
they
were
not
simply
about
a
single
property
rezoning,
but
rather
about
issues
that
impact
Santa,
Fe.
More
broadly.
From
my
perspective,
each
case
brought
up
issues
about
the
balance
of
public
goods,
in
particular,
affordable
housing
and
open
space,
and
how
both
of
these
Goods
keep
Santa
Fe
the
city
different.
D
So
what
I
did
is
using
your
current
slate
of
questions
as
a
model.
I
attempted
a
write-up
of
the
topic
that
I'd
like
to
submit
for
your
consideration.
Unfortunately,
I
was
unable
to
submit
this
to
the
portal
today.
So
I'll
read
it
out
here
and
email
it
to
you
immediately
following
this
meeting,
although
if
there
is
a
chat,
function
or
a
way
to
distribute
it
to
you,
I'm
happy
to
paste
it
for
one
of
the
staff.
D
D
In
other
words,
should
the
quasi-judicial
status
be
employed
in
land
use
cases
on
projects
that
will
significantly
reshape
an
area
of
the
city
or
override
previously
adopted
standards
or
overlays
or
would
another
model
in
which
Commissioners
and
or
elected
officials
exercise
discretion
and
the
balancing
of
competing
concerns
better
serve
Santa
Fe
in
these
cases,
that's
the
end
of
the
question.
I
would
welcome
the
City
attorney
and
her
staff
to
represent
the
question
in
a
form
that
is
acceptable
to
this
body.
Thank.
B
A
A
There
is
no
one
else
on
the
zoom
chair
long.
Once
again,
there
was
written
comment
distributed
via
email
from
bro
brechner,
but
there's
no
one
else
on
the
zoom.
B
The
first
is
the
subcommittee
on
governance
issues
and
financial
audit
included
in
this
committee's
topics
are
many:
the
appropriate
number
of
city
council
districts,
the
appropriate
number
of
City
councilors
per
District,
whether
a
city
councilor
who
has
lost
a
campaign
for
mayor
should
be
permitted
to
remain
in
office
after
the
inauguration
of
a
new
mayor.
Whether
the
charter
should
dictate
the
city's
board
and
commission
organization,
whether
the
city's
mayor
should
have
a
purely
executive
role
rather
than
both
legislative
and
executive
roles,
and
if
so,
what
new
rights
and
limitations
should
be
adopted.
B
G
Thank
you
very
much.
This
is
Paul
Paul,
Dyrdek.
G
You
will
remember
that
at
our
last
meeting
we
described
some
of
the
items
which
we
had
developed
considerably
by
then
I,
don't
think
I
should
repeat
all
of
that,
but
I
should
tell
you
what
we've
accomplished
since
then.
G
There
are
we've
divided
the
list
in
three
categories.
The
first
category
is
are
strictly
those
in
which
we
are
recommending
Charter
amendments.
We
of
all
of
these
topics.
There
are
three
where
we
are
recommending
amendments
then
there's
a
category
where
we
consider
the
matters
carefully
and
decided
that
they
do
need
to
be
addressed,
but
they
are
not
properly
constitutional
issues
and
so
that
that
will
be
a
matter
of
our
presenting
recommendations
to
the
council
for
their
consideration
and
for
their
action.
If
they
choose.
C
Mr
commissioner
deirdack,
yes,
you're
cutting
everybody
is
so
and
I'm.
Sorry
to
ask
you
this,
but
you
said
you
could,
on
the
second
carefully
the
issues
and
are
going
to
make
recommendations
to
the
council
that
I'm
a
clarification
word.
G
G
E
G
A
few
items
there,
so,
if
you
like
I,
think
what
I
would
do
is
emphasize
the
first
category
and
then
cite
the
second
category
quickly.
B
G
Don't
think
there
needs
to
be
a
mystery
there.
There
are
two
items
on
the
list
which
we've
already
discovered,
are
either
not
constitutional
and
would
require
a
constitutional
amendment
or
in
another
case
there
is
case
law
which
prohibits
the
action
that
was
being
requested
and
with
all
the
with
all
else,
that
we
want
the
council
to
refer
to
the
voters.
We
would
think
that
developing
recommendations
on
those
two
is
is
of
a
much
lower
importance.
B
The
reason
I
was
asking
the
question
is
the
resolution
that
establishes
us
says
that
we
shall
make
recommendations
on
all
of
those
following
topics.
So
if
any
of
those
topics
in
that
third
category
of
yours
are
ones
from
the
resolution,
then
I
read
it
that
we
need
to
make
a
recommendation,
but
I
think
we
could
be
just
saying
it
a
different
way.
The
recommendation
would
be
don't
do
anything
because
okay.
G
B
G
Great,
let
me
turn
then,
to
the
three
where
we
do
think
that
there
will
be
recommendations.
G
The
first
one
and
and
I
should
say
at
this
point,
Madam
chair,
that
that
the
agenda
renumbers
and
re-letters
the
items
from
the
referral
that
we
got
from
the
council
and
in
our
committee
we
have
kept
all
the
designations
as
we
got
them
from
the
council
so
as
not
to
get
confused
from
addition
to
addition.
G
There
we
go
so
the
first
item.
That
is
a
recommendation.
You've
already
heard
us
talk
about
it,
it
is
items
D
and
F
from
the
council's
docket,
and
in
this
case
it
is
about
the
roles
of
the
three
branches
of
government
and
describing
the
three
branches
of
government.
We
propose
that
articles,
5,
6,
7
and
8.
G
in
the
charter
be
replaced
by
a
single
Article
Five
and
that
it
would
be
entitled
something
like
governance
and
therefore
it
would
have
a
section
on
the
legislative
branch,
a
section
on
the
executive
branch.
In
a
section
on
the
judicial
branch
there
will
be,
there
will
be
very
few
changes
of
the
current
charters
separate
and
individual
Provisions.
They
will
simply
be
put
in
a
different
order
and
there
will
be
a
description
of
what
we
mean
by
separation
and
balance
of
powers
at
the
beginning.
G
The
legislative
branch
I
don't
think
there
is
much
change
to
that
one
in
the
executive
branch
we
describe,
as
does
the
model
Charter
document
on
number
nine
I,
think
every
member
of
the
commission
has
been
Consulting,
that
we
follow
their
lead
and
what
they
do.
Is
they
divide
very
clearly
between
mayoral
and
managerial
duties?
G
The
mayor
is
described
as
being
the
chief
executive
officer.
The
manager
is
described
as
being
the
chief
operations
officer.
We
think
that
language
is
more
descriptive
and
immediately
accessible
to
the
public
than
the
language
that's
used
in
their
Charter.
Now,
we've
also
been
very
careful
when
a
a
verb
appears
in
either
the
manager
or
the
mayor's
description.
G
There
are
a
few
items
that
we
do
think
need
to
be
a
little
more
explicit.
G
Then
best
practice
requires
that
everyone
who
has
or
could
have
a
vote
on
the
matter.
Here's
all
the
business
and
so
you'll
see
in
our
material
when
you
get
it
that
we're
expecting
that
the
mayor
would
participate
in
that
entire
entire
proceeding
when
an
appeal
of
a
land
use
decision
is
a
perfect
example
is
before
the
body.
G
Otherwise,
the
council
will
select
them
from
among
its
members,
someone
to
chair
its
meetings
and
the
the
staff
person
that
will
assist
them
at
every
turn
will
be
the
manager,
because
that's
that's
the
way.
Those
functions
are
these.
These
two
roles
will
be
defined
with
lots
of
definitional
terms,
but
I'm
not
going
to
go
there
at
the
moment.
G
There's
there's
another,
the
other
place
where
the
Mayors
language
changes
just
a
little.
It
already
says
that
the
mayor
hires,
the
City
attorney
the
manager
and
the
clerk,
but
the
the
model
Charter
raises
a
very
important
issue
that
has
been
experienced
by
many
cities.
G
This
is,
this
is
anecdotal
experience
that
they've
collected
it's
not
it's
not
some
formula,
and
so
the
experience
has
been
that
when
the
when
Mayors
across
the
country,
higher
City
attorneys,
there
is
a
tendency
by
either
the
public
or
the
council,
to
think
that
the
City
attorney
is
a
part
of
the
executive
branch
and
works
for
the
mayor,
because
the
mayor
has
the
power
to
hire
and
Fire,
and
that
has
become
a
source
of
confusion
when
the
attorney
really
needs
to
give
best
advice
to
all
entities
of
the
city
Non-Stop,
and
so
what
what
Charters
have
done
to
make
the
independence
of
that
role
clearer
is
to
say
that
this,
the
mayor
hires,
the
City
attorney
with
the
consent
of
the
council
and
when
it's
possible,
when
it's
necessary
to
dismiss
a
City
attorney,
also
does
so
with
the
consent
of
the
council.
G
G
So
those
are
the
only
two
changes
really
that
you'll
see.
With
regard
to
the
mayor,
we've
been
very
careful
to
present.
G
Separation
of
powers
within
a
strong
mayor
form
of
government.
We
do
not
think
that
what
you
have
on
your
agenda
is
item
G,
whether
the
roles
of
the
mayor,
counselors
or
managers
should
be
better
defined
and
how
and
then
in
E.
It
says
whether
the
mayor
should
have
a
purely
executive
role
rather
than
both
with
the
legislative
role.
G
We
don't
think
that
those
two
questions
invite
us
to
reverse
the
work
of
the
previous
Charter
commission,
that
created
a
strong
mayor
form
of
government
stripping
away
powers
and
duties
from
one
role
and
adding
them
to
another
to
Simply
reverse.
That
process
doesn't
seem
to
us
to
be
the
charge
that
we
were
given.
We
were
given
a
charge
to
clarify
the
the
roles
so
that
they
function,
so
the
people
in
those
roles
know
where
their
roles
start
and
stop.
G
So
that's
what
we're
doing
I
I
am
ready
to
move
to
another
item
that
we
will
be
recommending,
but
I'm
going
to
pause
here
to
ask
if
either
Maria
or
Lily
may
or
you
Alicia
would
have
any
additions
to
what
I
have
said.
G
Another
item
which
we
believe
should
be
a
proposal,
comes
with
a
matter.
Commissioner,
Ives
I,
don't
know
if
this
was
referred
to
your
committee
or
ours.
I
believed
it
was
referred
to
ours.
G
This
is
the
question
of
the
public
rights
of
referendum
and
initiative:
okay,
okay,
so
in
that
case
we
noticed
that
was
there's
an
interesting
coincidence
in
our
Charter,
and
it
is
also
a
coincidence
in
many
charters
that
the
that
the
signature
threshold
that
must
be
achieved
to
put
a
referendum
or
a
initiative
on
the
ballot
is
the
same
percentage
as
is
used
for
recalls.
G
That
happens.
Everyone
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
cities
that
do
it.
That
way,
we
noticed
that
one
of
the
public
comments
that
we
received
was
to
pay
attention
to
all
three
of
them
and
in
our
discussion
we
decided
there's
a
distinction
between
initiative
and
recall
initiative
and
referendum
on
one
hand
and
recall
on
another.
G
With
regard
to
recall
our
Our
member
said
it
best.
She
said
that
the
the
public
who
votes
has
a
recourse,
almost
immediately
meaning
the
next
election,
and
so
the
threshold
for
recall
needs
to
be
really
high,
because
when,
when
the
voters
decide
that
a
an
elected
has
it
is
richly
entitled
to
being
removed,
then
the
voters
can
go
to
the
polls
and
see
to
it
and
so
having
that
as
a
high
threshold,
which
tends
to
reduce
the
frequency
of
such
things
happening
because
they
are
very
disruptive.
G
We
believe
that
the
present
Charter
is
where
it
ought
to
be
at
33
percent.
In
the
other
two
cases,
however,
initiative
and
and
referendum,
the
voters
may
very
well
think
that
they
did
elect
the
council.
They
chose
they
wanted
to
elect,
but
on
some
particular
matter,
it's
not
getting
on
the
docket
and
they
want
to
have
access
to
the
ballot,
and
so
we
think
that
it
makes
sense
to
reduce
the
threshold.
G
In
those
two
cases
we
looked
at
a
website
and
you'll
see
the
reference
in
our
written
report
that
compares
thresholds,
signature
thresholds
across
the
country
and
in
cities
and
in
States
the
lowest
threshold
that
adjudicatories
use
is
two
percent,
and
it's
quite
frequent
that
a
higher
percentage
goes
up
to
15..
J
Long
so
ref
the
difference
between
the
two
is
referenda,
is
when
the
governing
body
passes,
votes
on
a
bill
and
passes
it,
and
the
public
is
just
not
happy
with
that.
So
it's
sort
of
like
the
ability
for
the
voters
to
Express
their
displeasure
with
with
some
Bill
that's
been
passed
and
and
sort
of
like
a
recall
of
that
bill.
That's
been
passed
by
the
governing
body.
J
The
initiative
is
the
process
where
the
governing
body
is
not
even
willing
to
put
an
issue
up
for
a
vote
that
the
public
wants
to
be
a
stay
on.
So
if
the
governing
body
is
not
responsive
to
the
to
their
voters
to
their
constituents,
then
the
the
voters
can
just
gather
enough
signatures
to
put
that
question
on
the
ballot,
bypassing
the
governing
body.
Okay,
that.
G
Final
matter
for
proposing
a
recommendation
is
what
Lilly
May
described
very
completely
at
our
last
full
commission
meeting,
and
that
is
to
introduce
a
sec,
an
article
in
the
charter
that
has
to
do
with
financial
matters,
and
we
we
look
carefully
at
what
the
models
City
Charter
did.
G
They
produced
a
long
chapter,
20
some
pages,
but
if
you
go
through
that
chapter
and
strip
out
their
long
passages
of
commentary
and
just
look
at
the
articles
that
they
recommend
it
becomes
a
much
more
manageable
document.
It's
it's
three
pages
more
or
less,
and
it
does
and
and
I
read
it
so
carefully
and
I
noticed
an
Exquisite.
H
G
To
distinguish
between
ordinance
policy
and
procedure
on
the
one
hand
and
Constitution
on
the
other,
I
I
can't
imagine
doing
it
better,
but
what
they
do
is
they
also
distinguish
between
the
public
Pro,
the
public
engagement
process
in
building
a
budget
versus
the
public
engagement
process
in
building
multi-year
financial
decisions,
particularly
in
terms
of
capital
outlays,
and
those
are
two
different
processes-
that's
lined
out,
and
it
provides
the
public
with
a
road
map
for
how
to
be
engaged
and
it
provides
the
governing
body
with
a
road
map
of
how
to
engage
the
public,
and
so
that
is
what
the
model
calls
constitutional
and
frankly,
we
read
it
carefully
and
we
would
like
to
pass
along
to
the
to
the
council
that
text
and
if
they
see
sentences
that
they
think
are
adequately
covered
in
ordinance,
they
may
decide
to
leave
them
in
ordinance
and
strike
them
from
Charter
language.
G
G
So
those
are
the
three
Lily
Manny
additions
to
what
I
have
said
about
that.
E
No
I
I
think
that
captures
it,
but
but
I
think
it's
important
that
you
say
that
that
the.
E
G
G
So
with
that,
let
me
go
more
quickly.
G
G
We
were
asked
if
there
should
be
a
full-time
counselors
and
once
again
we
don't
see
that
that
is
of
it
doesn't
seem
like
a
timely
matter
to
us
that
that's
something
that,
when
this
city
is
a
good
deal
larger,
the
city
might
want
to
consider.
But
we
do
have
one
recommendation,
and
that
is
until
we
are
of
such
a
city,
then
we
do
recommend
that
they
take
a
hard
look
at
the
budgetary
implications
of
having
staff
assigned
for
these
counselors
and
that
that.
D
G
A
group
of
citizens
looked
at
that
and
saw
the
wisdom
of
that,
but
that
is
as
an
implication
of
their
referral
and
we
appreciated
the
implication.
We
thought
it
is
not
time
yet
in
the
history
of
Santa
Fe
for
them
full-time,
so
that
is
their
referral
e.
G
Another
referral
came
through
our
own
process.
It
arose
from
among
us
as
Commissioners,
and
that
is
whether
or
not
there
should
be
some
means
for
boards
and
commissions
to
Sunset
when
they
become
less
active
or
useful
and
again
we
think
the
council
needs
to
have
a
procedure
about
that.
We
don't
think
that's
a
matter
of
constitutional
work.
G
The
third
one
is
that
this
emerged
from
our
own
conversation
within
our
subcommittee.
G
You'll.
Remember
that
we've
got
a
huge
question.
That's
been
posed
to
us
about
the
number
of
districts
doing
that
a
year
after
the
city
has
redistricting
seems
to
us
to
be
colossally
backwards,
and
so
we
simply
will
recommend
that
the
timing
of
both
of
these
processes
is
strictly
a
matter
of
when
the
council
convenes
them,
and
we
would
recommend
that
they
convene
them
in
the
opposite
order.
G
Then,
of
course,
we
get
to
this
one
I
just
mentioned
in
our
report.
You
will
see
the
considerations
that
we
entertained
and
the
calculations
that
we
entertained
when
we
considered
the
number
of
districts
and
the
number
of
counselors
per
District
we're
not
simply
going
to
put
a
bald
sentence
in
front
of
you
refer
it
or
ever
again
it
there's
going
to
be
all
that
description
of
our
discussion
at
the
end
of
the
day.
G
There
are
benefits
and
people
who
struggle
with
it
wind
up
with
strong
feelings
about
it,
but
when
we
looked
at
it
we
we
believe
that,
at
least
in
this
moment
in
this
decade,
having
this
many
districts
and
and
getting
the
political
benefit
of
having
two
counselors
per
District,
so
that
the
public
is
that
much
more
represented
in
government
speaks
well
for
this
city,
and
you
will
see
our
our
logic
that
if
this
city
were
some
larger
creature
than
it
is,
it
would
certainly
behoove
the
city
to
take
a
hard
look
at
that.
G
It's
not
as
though
it's
irrelevant
it's
it's
at
what
threshold
does
it
become
so
relevant
that
it's
worth
the
burden?
That's
the
question,
and
we,
by
that
we
we
met
this
last
week
and
before
that
meeting
we
were
looking
at
two
options.
One
would
have
changed.
One
did
not,
and
as
we
analyze
the
two
options,
we
chose
the
one
that
I've
just
described.
G
So
here
are
some
that
meet.
G
You
knew
that
that
was
a
a
big
one.
I
think
I
should
first
just
to
keep
things
in
order.
I
should
go
to
the
one
that
is.
Do
we
recommend
at-large
council
members?
B
G
B
You
know
if
they
stay
on
the
council.
I
think
that
was
the
issue,
so
I
think
the
problem
really
is
the
same
for
both,
but
maybe
it's
it's
a
little
bit
different
because
of
mayor's
ability
to
appoint
right,
the
vacancy
and
so
on
that
doesn't
occur
until
after
the
election,
but
that
that's
the
question
that
was
posed
to
us
is
after
the
mayor's
inauguration.
This
counselor
would
have
to
resign.
Thank.
G
You
and-
and
thank
you
for
that
clarification
because
we
will
carry
that
forward
in
our
written
material.
The
I
I
understand
why
we
took
the
shorthand
because
the
the
literature
is
full
of
discussion
about
this
and
they
use
that
shorthand
to
discuss.
G
It
sure
is
yeah
okay,
so
we
won't
do
that
again,
but
but
frankly,
we
we
discussed
it
at
length
and
there
were
some
some
opportunities
to
to
game
out
what
that
sequence
would
look
like
in
real
life
and
we
thought
of
the
people
who
have
held
these
positions
in
our
city
council
over
the
last
I.
G
If
you
want
me
to
include
an
editorial
in
the
report,
I'll
bet
you
don't,
but
I
sure
could
write
one
on
this.
One.
G
J
Commissioner,
durdick
I,
don't
think
you
actually
mentioned
the
term
limits
right
now,
but
it's
point
of
clarification.
It's
the
same.
We've
been
advised
by
City
attorneys
that
that's
there's
case
law,
where
it's
not
allowable
by
state
law.
So
we're
not
going
to
be.
B
Making
municipalities?
Yes,
okay!
Well!
This
committee
has
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
and
I
want
to
thank
you
and
it's
it's
really
very
interesting,
and
we
can
tell
that
you're,
taking
a
very
complete
look
at
it
and
engaging
in
a
lot
of
interesting
discussion.
I
know.
E
Yes,
if
I
just
might
add,
I
first
of
all,
Polly
did
a
great
job
explaining
all
of
the
different
issues,
because
there's
many-
and
there
was
multiple
conversations
and
it's
been
like
herding
cats
trying
to
gather
everything.
But
you
did
a
good
job
in
doing
that
and
and
for
the
community
who
I
was
listening
in
terms
of
transparency.
E
I
want
them
to
understand
that
our
committee
has
worked
to
add
value
and
to
look
at
what
the
city
Charter
currently
contains
and
what
model
best
practices
dictate
to
see
how
we
can
improve
our
city
Charter
by
adding
value
by
building
upon
the
strengths
of
the
current
city
Charter
and
by
building
upon
the
work
of
different
groups
like
The,
redistricting,
commission
and
so
I.
Just
have
to
say
that
we
would
appreciate
any
comments.
E
Individuals
have
to
the
conversation
that
we
just
that
Paul
just
presented
that
reports
on
what
we
were
discussing
so
that
we
can
move
forward
and
maybe
adapt
and
and
adjust
something
that
we
may
have
presented.
But
but
I
I
think
we're
excited
about
what
recommendations
we
can
give
to
the
council
and,
of
course,
after
that,
our
work
is
done
and
they
can
move
forward,
but
the
more
insight
and
the
more
feedback
we
get
from
community
members,
the
better
our
work
product
will
be,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
thank
all
and
the
other
committee
members.
A
B
H
Just
I
just
had
a
few
quick
ones:
okay
I
know,
commissioner
durduck
had
indicated
that
the
committee
had
chosen
to
not
consider
sort
of
going
backwards
in
terms
of
the
latest
round
of
Charter
commissions,
I
I
when
I've
read
the
resolution.
I
certainly
don't
see
that
limitation
in
there
so
I.
From
my
perspective,
certainly
the
committee
would
be
free
to
consider
those
types
of
issues.
This
certainly
understand
not
wanting
to
take
those
up
or
not
determining
that.
H
That's
not
the
direction
you
want
to
go,
but
I
think
in
terms
of
the
permissibility
of
consideration
of
that
type
of
circum
stands.
I
think
that
actually
is
on
the
table,
because
the
resolution
does
call
for
not
only
what
the
council
put
forward,
but
also
what
Commissioners
bring
forward
and
what
the
public
brings
forward.
So,
just
an
editorial
note
on
that.
On
that
one
point:
I
can
speak
with
some
experience
to
this
question
of
resigning.
H
A
position
having
been
in
that
exact
context
in
the
mayoral
run
that
I
had
was
involved
in
and
I
will
say
the
mayor
and
I
got
along
during
the
entire
election
campaigning
season.
He
felt
comfortable
enough
with
our
relationship
to
point
me
as
the
chair
of
the
Public
Works
committee,
and
we
worked
very
successfully
through
that
point
in
time
that
I
ended
up
leaving
Council,
so
I
would
agree.
Hopefully
the
people
of
Santa
Fe.
H
They
elect
folks
who,
at
some
level,
can
get
along
focus
on
the
business
at
hand
as
opposed
to
Ed
hominin
attacks
on
each
other.
So
just
a
a
real
example,
the
one
other
item
I
had-
and
this
was
this
language
in
it's
in
the
referendum
and
I-
think
the
recall
both
where
they
talk
about
the
10
percent
of
the
voters
for
mayor
in
each
Council
District
in
the
last
mayoral
election
and
I,
wasn't
sure.
H
If
that's
going
to
be
part
of
your
consideration,
if
you're
in
the
the
recall
area,
you
know,
we
know
that
there
is
significant
differences
in
voter
turnout
in
the
different
districts
and
whether
that
impacts
a
decision
to
keep
that
language
in
there
or
not.
I.
H
Just
hope
that
it's
something
you
look
at
and
and
do
have
an
opportunity
to
report
out
on
will
do
yeah,
because
when
I
saw
that
at
our
last
meeting
it
was
the
first
time
I'd
ever
really
focused
on
that
particular
provision,
then
I'm
still
not
sure
if
I
fully
understand
the
impact
of
it.
But
enough
said
thanks.
Those
were
the
only
questions
and
points
I
had
thank.
You
may.
B
B
They
have
been
assigned
the
topics
of
whether
the
human
and
civil
rights
policy
statement
should
be
more
specific
with
regard
to
the
breadth
of
required
protections
and
or
the
manner
in
which
such
such
rights
should
be
protected.
Whether
the
charter
should
provide
protections
for
agriculture,
whether
the
charter
should
allow
voting
beginning
at
age
16
in
Municipal
elections.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
but
let
me
just
lead
off
with
a
quick
summary
and
then
turn
it
over
to
the
other
Commissioners
on
the
committee.
We
have
met,
talked
about
all
these
issues
and
just
to
deal
with
the
last
one
first,
because
it's
the
easiest.
The
bill
that
was
introduced
in
the
house
to
reduce
the
voting
age
is
in
committee
and
has
not
been
reported
out.
I
believe
it
was
Judiciary
that
it
went
to
initially
so
we're
in
a
sort
of
holding
pattern
at
this
point
in
time.
H
I
am
not
sure
if
we
would
have
the
capacity
quite
frankly
to
change
it
to
16
if
the
legislature
decided
not
to
go
that
route,
as
that
is
such
a
significant
item
for
the
state
as
a
state
as
opposed
to
the
city
as
a
charter
City.
So
enough
said
there.
If
that
changes.
Obviously
we
look
forward
to
taking
that
up
and
who
knows,
maybe
we'll
have
a
recommendation
on
that.
H
I
think
it's
safe
to
say
that
all
of
the
members
of
the
committee
were
certainly
hoping
that
the
legislature
provided
that
opportunity
so
that
we
could
see
younger
members
in
our
community
start
to
participate
in
the
in
the
process
of
helping
to
govern
and
move
our
city
forward.
We
think
the
earlier
folks
get
involved
the
better
for
all
of
us
as
a
democracy
on
number,
a
which
is
the
human
and
civil
rights
policy
statement.
H
We
have
been
in
discussions
about
the
recommending
the
potential
creation
of
a
Human
Rights
Commission
at
the
city
level,
and
we're
certainly
aware
of
the
resolution
that
was
introduced
by
four
of
the
city.
Councilors
focusing
the
resolution
itself
focuses
significantly
on
the
Obelisk
and
issues
relating
to
that,
but
it
certainly
does
go
beyond
that
to
talk
about
the
office
of
equity
and
inclusion
and
begin
to
flesh
out
some
of
those
duties.
H
Some
of
our
discussion
focused
on
whether
that
statement.
The
statement
that
would
be
made
by
having
in
the
charter
a
Human
Rights
Commission
created
was
something
that
in
many
ways,
was
appropriate
for
all
the
citizens
of
Santa
Fe
to
participate
in
because
looking
across
the
country
and
in
the
papers
every
day,
these
issues
are
seem
to
only
become
more
significant,
locally,
regionally
across
the
state
across
the
United
States
and
across
the
world.
So
it's
one
of
the
most
powerful
statements
we
can
make
about
the
community
by
the
community.
H
H
The
national
league
of
cities
has
materials,
as
do
many
different
regions
and
governmental
constructs
across
the
country,
so
we've
been
in
the
process
of
reviewing
those
materials
and
looking
at
some
of
the,
we
want
to
understand
it
as
a
practical
implementation
process,
as
opposed
to
just
a
broad
statement,
we
believe
in
human
rights,
so
something
I
think
we
can
all
agree
on,
but
we'd
love
to
see
a
little
more
flesh
on
those
bones.
So
that's
where
we
we
are
on
that
one
and
then
B
whether
the
charter
should
provide
protections
for
agriculture.
H
Again,
all
members
of
the
committee
strongly
feel
that
hunger,
as
an
issue
is
in
some
ways,
relates
to
a
fundamental
right.
That
is,
we
should
be
able
to
ensure
that
our
citizenry
has
sufficient
food
resources.
We've
seen
reporting
recently
in
the
paper
about
the
impact
of
in
schools
of
kids,
that
don't
have
food
and
how
this
affects
their
capacity
to
learn
and
to
be
educated.
We
also
know
that
you
know
looking
at
some
of
the
statistics
from
the
Food
Depot.
There
remain
significant
portions
of
our
community
that
do
face
hunger.
H
So
looking
at
a
mechanism
or
a
policy
statement
that
elevates
consideration
of
those
issues,
especially
from
the
perspective
of
the
sustainability
of
our
community,
we
think
will
be
very
important
so
again
we're
looking
at
some
of
the
practicalities
of
implementing
implementing
that
and
the
appropriate
division
between
what
should
be
or
it
could
be
in
a
charter
versus
what
would
be
put
in
place
by
ordinance.
We
only
know,
based
upon
experience
of
the
last
ordinance,
that
it
was
not
successful
and
did
not
work.
H
So
we
want
to
try
and
look
at
solutions
to
try
and
solve
that
problem
and
really
provide
some
impetus
to
moving
those,
reducing
and
eliminating
hunger
in
a
more
significant
way
and
that's
my
reporting.
But
let
me
turn
to
my
other
committee
members
and
invite
everybody
to
to
elaborate
we're
correct.
C
B
Agricultural
issue
kind
of
turn
to
hunger.
It
sounds
like,
would
it
be
Charter
some
sort
of
Charter
direction
that
the
city
is
to
take
the
steps
necessary
to
ensure
hunger
is
addressed
or
food
resources
are
available,
or
something
like
that.
H
I
think,
certainly
that
would
be
in
the
nature
of
an
appropriate
policy
statement
and
it's
really
a
question
of
the
level
of
detail.
For
instance,
one
way
to
implement
a
policy
like
that
would
be
to
try
and
have
city
land
used
for
the
construction
of
water,
wise
greenhouses
using
Hydroponics
or
aquaponics.
Of
course,
we
have
at
this
Community
College
an
entire
program
dedicated
to
that
and
a
successful
operation
out
there.
H
So
if
the
somehow,
if
it
could,
we
could
in
any
type
of
language
in
the
charter,
incentivize
the
use
of
city,
land
or
those
purposes,
as
well
as
the
making
available
of
city
water
in
appropriate
circumstances
where
it
is
conserved
and
reused
through
many
cycles,
as
opposed
to
just
once
that
get
gives
us
I.
Think
those
are
some
of
the
issues.
I
think
we're
sort
of
trying
to
figure
out.
J
You
chair
long
so
as
to
the
first
question,
I
think
it
was
the
first
one
that
you
mentioned,
commissioner,
with
the
voting
for
our
16
year
old
residents.
J
You
know
this
is
a
confusing
issue
for
me,
because
it's
it's
sort
of
like
sitting
at
the
legislature
and
there
may
or
may
not
consider
it
I
know
that
some
cities
have
done
this
and
I
have
a
question
for
our
city
attorneys
about
that
which
I
just
don't
have
any
idea
how
this
would
work.
J
But
how
does
voter
registration
happen
for
those
folks
who
are
not
eligible
to
register
to
vote
in
Statewide
or
Federal
elections
like
if,
as
a
city,
we
were
able
to
pass
this
to
to
have
this
as
part
of
our
Charter
that
that
we
do
offer
the
the
voting
franchise
to
16
and
17
year
olds?
J
Would
they
register
with
the
state?
Were
they
register
with
a
city
clerk
like
what
would
be
the
mechanism
to
get
those
folks,
the
the
folks
who
qualify
to
register,
to
vote
in
those
local,
Municipal
and
School
Board
elections
to
do
so
and
like
what's
the
burden
and
how
does
it
work?
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
can
do
a
little
bit
of
research
on
that.
F
Very
long,
commissioner
Perez
I'm
clearly
not
Aaron
mcsherry
I'm,
Pat,
forgally,
I'm
assistant,
City
attorney
just
make
sure
he's
not
here
tonight.
I
I,
don't
know
the
specifics
of
that
Marcos
Martinez
might
have
been
looking
into
it.
I
can
ask
him
my
my
guess
is
that
it
would
be
through
the
city
clerk,
but
I
am
not
sure
and
I
I
can
we
can
look
into
that?
Certainly
thank.
J
J
Right
is.
J
B
J
B
C
B
J
Can
register
as
a
17
year
old
and
then,
once
your
birthday
comes
along
you
can
you
can
show
up
to
vote.
So
is
there
a
mechanism
like
that
where
you
could
register
as
a
16
year
old
with
the
state
and
then
somehow
right,
like
the
the
inner
mechanisms
of
of
election
Administration
would
say:
okay,
this
person
is
only
allowed
to
vote
for
school
board
and
and
City
local
elections.
So
I
just
don't
have
the
information
on
how
that
works.
In
other.
E
Madam
chair
that
analysis,
that
I
gave
you
all
the
last
time
on
the
16.
E
Voting
at
the
legislation
that's
introduced
in
the
state
has
some
information
there,
but
the
secretary
of
state
would
be
the
one
that
would
have
that
information
and
I
think
a
phone
call
to
her
office,
because
this
is
not
a
new
initiative.
They've
had
conversations
about
this
year
after
year.
She
probably
could
shoot
us
some
information
on
that
and
because
it
would
be
PVC
so
I
think
that
would
be
the
quickest
way
to
get
that
information
to
help
us.
J
G
G
G
Then.
The
next
question
is
what
is
your
projection
of
how
much
production
is
even
possible
and
what
fraction
of
the
deficit
gets
handled
or
not,
but
in
your
supportive
material
I'm
not
saying
this
goes
into
a
resolution,
but
the
resolution
is
a
lot
more
persuasive
when
both
the
upside
and
the
downside
are
Quantified.
H
Certainly
agree
and
appreciate
the
recommendation
to
do
that.
We
have
looked
at
some
of
the
food
Depot's
statements
of
some
of
the
deficits,
but
not
necessarily
nutritional
deficit
per
se.
So
we
will
look
for
that,
and
my
recollection
is
that
adult
nutritional
deficits
run
into
some
30
percent
plus
and
that
school
children
was
about
25
plus
I.
Apologize
I
did
not
bring
that
with
us,
but
or
with
me
this
evening,
but
it
was
significant
enough
to
get
one's
attention
certainly
readily.
I
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
comment
in
regards
to
the
Human
Rights
Commission
concept
and
I
spoke
to
a
counselor
who
was
one
of
the
sponsors,
because
I
wanted
to
get
a
sense
of
what
the
potential
for
this
office
might
be
beyond
the
solution
for
the
plaza,
and
he
in
fact
reiterated
his
their
commitment
and
really
the
city's
concern
is
very
similar
to
ours,
in
that,
whether
you
call
it
a
Human,
Rights,
Commission
or
office
of
equity.
I
He
he
foresaw
this
going
on
far
beyond
the
solution
to
the
plaza
and
that
it
would
be
a
functioning
entity
and
that
it
would
address
issues
regarding
equity
and
human
rights
and,
at
the
same
time,
I
foresee
a
real,
a
very
an
importance
in
having
it
within
the
city
Charter
written,
so
that
it
it
fits
that
there
would
indeed
be
a
commission
that
that
the
city
supports
and
wants
to
have
and
to
continue
for
human
rights
and
equity,
and
so
for
that
reason,
I
think
that's
why
we've
been
having
a
discussion
about
how
to
include
that
in
Charter
language.
B
B
The
the
charter
does
state
that,
at
the
at
the
end
of
the
human
and
civil
rights
section
to
affect
these
ends,
and
that's
after
all
of
the
language
about
the
protections
the
governing
body,
May
enact
ordinances
and
establish
appropriate
commissions
with
jurisdiction,
Authority
and
staff
sufficient
to
effectively
administer
this
policy.
So
I
think
it's
there.
It
says,
may
are
you
thinking
of
something,
maybe
that
strengthens
that
language,
that
they
shall
that
it
could
be
commissions
or
offices,
maybe
to
hand
to
cover
this
office
of
inclusion
and
equity.
I
That
would
certainly
be
where
I
would
be
headed.
I
did
speak
to
a
Midwestern
City
this
week
as
well
concerning
how
their
Human,
Rights
Commission
had
been
operational.
I
spoke
with
the
city
law
office
and
what
I
found
was
I
was
disappointed
that
it
was
really
not
the
meaty
kind
of
office
that
would
be
looking
at
events
and
proposed
projects
from
an
equity
with
an
equity
lens
and
the
attorney
with
whom
I
spoke
said.
Also.
I
This
city
was
realizing
that
they
needed
to
strengthen
this
commission
from
almost
like
a
I'm
I'm
searching
for
the
word,
but
it
was.
It
was
not
a
commission
that
could
act
or
that
could
that
had
the
power
to
do
so
to
to
carry
the
weight
for
City
decisions,
but
that
when
a
current
office,
which
was
vacant
was
filled,
that
the
city
was
going
to
go
back
and
review
and
approach
what
we're
trying
to
do
right
here.
I
So
yes,
definitely
I
I
would
like
to
see
shell
in
there
that
that
it's
in
place,
at
least
for
10
years.
Yes,
okay,.
B
J
I
had
a
little
bit
to
give
I
guess
the
public
and
the
colleagues
here
some
context
as
far
as
what
our
conversations
have
been
around.
So
as
commissioner
Bland
has
just
said,
we
were
interested
in
having
if
we're
going
to
have
an
office
of
equity
and
inclusion,
or
if
it's
going
to
be
a
Human,
Rights
Commission.
Whatever
it's
going
to
be,
we
want
a
body,
that's
going
to
have
some
teeth
right
so
that
it's
not
just
aspirational
and
it
looks
good
on
paper,
but
that
they
actually
is
able
to
to
do
the
work.
J
Like
commissioner
blenders
just
said
so,
we've
been
talking
about
what
it
would
be.
It
would
look
like
to
have
an
office,
particularly
right,
like
a
like
a
staffed
city,
office
of
equity
and
inclusion,
equity
and
sustainability,
human
rights,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
right,
but
that
it's
that
office
really
has
a
serves
an
administrative
function
more
than
an
aspirational
function.
So
that's
it's.
J
There's,
there's
a
a
mandate
right,
a
task,
a
thing
that
that
office
needs
to
do
and
that
they
implement
it
through
administrative
means,
so
that
there's
not
question
about
like.
Oh
this
project
like
we're,
going
to
talk
about
it.
That
project
is
not
important,
like
every
project
goes
through
the
same
process.
Every
vendor
goes
through
the
same
process.
Every
expenditure
goes
through
the
same
process.
Every
hire
goes
through
the
same
process,
so
it
would
be.
We've
talked
about
this
right.
J
B
Are
there
any
new
topics?
I
I
will
note
that
we've
heard
now
from
Mr
Johnson
twice,
and
we
really
appreciate
you
know
his
interest
in
our
work
and
he
the
way
I
think
we'll
have
to
see
the
way
he
framed
the
the
possible
topic.
But
you
know
Pat
will
know
this
more
than
more
than
anyone.
B
There
has
been
some
very
I
would
say
large
and
land
use
cases
that
have
gone
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
to
the
council
recently,
and
so
it
has
involved
a
lot
of
citizens
of
the
city
that
have
followed
those
and
participated
in
it,
and
so
I
understand
that
coming
on
the
heels
of
it.
But
I
think
there
was
a
lot
in
that
question
or
that
concern
whether
they
should
be
quasi-judicial.
B
The
concern
is
that
maybe
city-wide
interests
aren't
able
to
be
addressed,
Within
the
standards
for
those
cases
and
that
maybe
citizens
were
not
given
adequate
time,
which
is
more
of
a
rules
issue
than
a
quasi-judicial
issue,
but
maybe
maybe
I
can
just
visit
with
had
about
that
and
see
if,
if
we
can
kind
of
unpack
it
because
there
are
some,
you
know
requirements
for
those
kinds
of
cases
that
we
can't
do
anything
about
they're
going
to
be
quasi-judicial
if
it
involves
a
specific
piece
of
property,
but
I
think
there
was
more
two
to
Mr
Johnson's
question
than
than
just
that.
B
F
Thank
you,
chair
long
I
think
that
is,
that
is
a
good
assessment
of
I
believe
what
he
was
saying.
I
do
want
to
let
you
know
that
there
is
a
chapter
14
rewrite
of
the
code,
which
is
the
land
use
chapter
of
the
Santa
Fe
city
code
happening
starting
now,
and
some
of
the
processes
for
hearings
are
certainly
going
to
be
discussed
and
looked
at.
F
B
About
it,
yeah,
that's
a
very
good
point:
I
thought
about
that.
So
I'm
glad
glad
you
brought
it
up
because
I
attended
that
kind
of
kickoff
meeting
for
the
rewrite
of
that
and
I
think
so
did.
I
saw
commissioner
bondus
on
there
so
and
I
assume.
You
know
that
there'll
be
a
lot
of
public
participation
in
that
process,
including
the
old
Santa
Fe.
B
H
You,
madam
chair,
my
recollection
of
the
reporting
in
the
paper
is
that
the
land
use
rewrite
will
run
through
2026,
so
anything,
presumably
that's
going
to
be
acted
on,
maybe
three
or
four
years
away.
So
from
my
perspective,
the
possibility
of
addressing
that
in
the
context
of
this
commission
might
make
sense
by
way
of
providing
guidance
to
that
process
as
opposed
to
taking
it
up.
B
B
Why
don't
we
I'll
visit
with
city
attorney's
office
about
it
well
try
to
get
some
more
clarity
on
that
for
Mr
Johnson,
yes,
Connor,
chair.
A
Long,
thank
you.
I
just
did
just
once
as
a
piece
of
information
to
let
you
know
that
Mr
Johnson
did
email.
His
pre
prepared
remarks
to
me
and
I
will
distribute
them
among
all
the
Commissioners,
so
you
can
see
what
is
written
in
Mr
Johnson's.
B
A
Yes,
there
are
Matters
from
staff,
and
I
will
not
take
too
much
of
your
time,
Commissioners
but
I'm
here
this
evening
to
let
you
know
that
tonight's
meeting
of
the
charter
review
Commission
will
be
my
last
meeting
as
the
charter
review
commission
staff
liaison
as
Monday.
This
upcoming
Monday
will
be
my
last
day
with
the
city.
A
I
am
from
Phoenix
Arizona.
Originally,
that
is
my
hometown
and
I've
accepted
a
position
back
home.
So
I
would
just
briefly
like
to
take
this
opportunity,
not
only
to
thank
all
of
you
but
to
thank
the
entire
staff
of
the
city
of
Santa
Fe
and
this
entire
Community.
It's
been
an
honor
and
a
privilege
to
live
in
the
city.
Different
and
I
will
always
cherish
it.
So
thank
you
all
very
much.
I
appreciate
it.
Thank.
B
You
Connor
we're
very
sorry
to
see
you
go,
but
it
sounds
like
you're
on
to
something
in
your
hometown
that
you'll
find
fulfilling.
We
really
want
to
thank
you
for
all
of
your
help.
I
mean
not
just
here
at
the
meetings,
but
getting
getting
us
prepared
for
the
meeting
and
getting
the
agendas
ready
and
you've
always
been
so
responsive
and
we
will
miss
you.
Thank.
B
A
F
Okay,
so
as
to
moving
forward,
we
will
have
a
new
head
of
Conor's
office.
You
can
you
help
me
with
the
title.
It's
the
head
of.
A
Yes,
absolutely
it'll
be
the
office
of
legislation
and
policy,
Innovation
manager.
B
F
A
mouthful
yes,
so
the
the
new
person
for
that
will
be
starting
the
end
of
March.
We
do
have
an
offer
out.
It
is
not
finalized
yet,
but
we
will
let
you
know
when
it
is
official
up
until
then
at
least,
and
perhaps
after
that
I
will
be
the
the
liaison
to
subcommittee
one,
which
is
you
know,
the
governance
issues
and
financial
audit
and
senior
assistant
City
attorney.
F
G
B
B
You
know
back
up
for
that
with
by
I.
Think
our
March
30th
meeting
so
we'd
like
that
in
writing,
and
if
it's
going
to
be
on
the
meeting
agenda
then
and
go
into
what
we
call
our
packets
but
get
up,
get
uploaded
to
Prime
gov,
then
we
might
want
to
have
them
the
week
before.
Would
that
work?
Connor
I
mean
we'll
talk
about
it
next
month
too,
but
usually
we
need.
We
can
send
out
an
email,
but
we
needed
a
week
ahead
of
time.
B
So
we're
not
asking
for
a
perfectly
written
report
that
will
come
the
month
afterward,
but
at
least
by
the
end
of
March.
We
would
like
to
have
a
written
report
with
some
rationale.
For
it
that
doesn't
mean
you
can't
do
something.
You
know
ahead
of
time
for
our
next
meeting.
If
you
want
someone
to
see
it,
but
the
two
meetings
in
March
are
both
I.
Think
we've
decided
those
are
both
virtual
meetings
by
Zoom,
so
that'll
be.
B
B
So
if
we
get
those
written
recommendations
with
with
some
rationale
for
them
and
some
of
your
analysis,
then
April
will
really
be
the
month
where
we're
putting
the
written
report
together
and
Aaron
has
said
that
the
City
attorney
staff,
and
maybe
the
new
liaison,
will
help
us
with
that
writing.
So
hopefully,
with
their
help,
we
can
get
a
draft
to
the
commission.
B
You
know
the
first
meeting
in
April
with
edits,
made
and
comments
made
and
and
vote
on
a
final
report
by
the
end
of
April,
because
the
I
think
we
have
to
get
everything
to
the
council.
Our
deadline
is
May
9.
and
there
is
a
council
meeting
on
May
10.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
was
the
thinking
that
they
wanted
everything
by
the
10th.
So
don't
you
think
yeah.
J
E
J
It
for
the
March
30th
meeting
a
few
days
before
right,
so
that
we
can
put
it
on
the
website
and
and
and
all
that,
but
the
point
of
that
at
least
partially.
The
point
of
that
was
to
give
the
public
access
to
our
thinking.
So
I'd
love
to
just
put
a
pin
on
that
in
terms
of
okay,
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna,
put
our
recommendations
forward.
That's
going
to
go
to
the
public!
J
How-
and
we
had
talked
about-
maybe
doing
some
work
ahead
of
time
to
to
maybe
put
it
in
the
new
Mexican
or
do
some
radio
interviews
or
whatever,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
following
was
commissioner
ortized
before
right.
We
really
do
need
some
feedback
from
the
public
and
it
would
be
great
to
maximize
those
three
weeks
from
our
draft
report
being
submitted
to
to
get
that
feedback
from
the
public.
And
then
we
can
have
also
feedback
from
our
city
attorneys.
B
J
Need
we.
F
B
Yeah
I
think
that
would
be
helpful,
I
think
once
we
have
some
of
this
in
writing
so
that
the
public
can
actually
read
it
know
what
what
we're
thinking
and
and
where
we're
headed
and
what
the
recommendations
might
be
then
gives
them
something
concrete
to
make
comment
about,
even
even
if
it's
not
perfect.
Well,.
G
Imperfection
is
exactly
what
I
asked
the
question.
It
feels
to
me
like
there's
a
gap
if
the,
if
we
as
subcommittees
put
material
before
the
full
commission,
then
it's
on
the
website
for
the
full
commissions
meeting
and
now
it's
a
public
document.
E
Madam
chair,
what
I
was
going
to
throw
out
is
we're
running
on
time
and
there's
a
lot.
There
is
a
lot
of
specific
work
that
needs
to
follow
our
general
assumptions
that
we've
outlined
today
and
I
was
going
to
suggest,
perhaps
rather
than
waiting
for
a
formal
report
at
the
end
of
March,
where
everything's
pulled
together
and
it's
gorgeous
and
beautiful
in
a
listing
by
the
two
subcommittees
that
if
there
are
pieces
that
are
ready,
for
example,
I'm
going
to
State,
the
financial
piece
is
ready.
E
It's
been
ready
for
some
time,
I
just
handed
a
copy
to
to
commissioner
Montoya
of
it,
and
it's
straight
out
of
a
model
practice.
So
there's
not
not
anything.
Really,
that
should
be
controversial,
so
I
was
going
to
suggest
if
there's
pieces
that
are
ready
and
I
would
offer
that
one
as
the
first
one
that
we
have
our
attorneys
look
at
it
and
then
put
it
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
meeting.
Instead
of
waiting
for
all
these
final
reports,
because
I.
E
Matters
can
stand
alone
and
and
that
one's
ready,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
I'll
be
happy
to
give
you
a
copy
before
I
leave
this
evening
of
what
it
looks
like.
So
maybe
we
could
consider
that
and
then
have
the
attorneys
look
at
it.
If
it
looks
worthy,
then
it
will
be
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
for
the
March
9th
meeting,
and
we
can
at
least
move
forward
on
that.
One
item
cross
that
off
a
list
and
move
on
to
what
other
pieces
that
are
already
ready.
It.
E
B
And
it's
that
really
sounds
like
that,
at
least
from
what
I
was
hearing
from
the
committee
on
governance.
That
they've
got
some
pieces
too.
That
are
other
than.
G
Close
and
and
I
think
just
to
say
in
the
hearing
of
committee
members
I
think
within
a
matter
of
days,
I
can
circulate
stuff
to
you
in
writing
to
subcommittee
members
and
get
an
Okie
Dokie
and
we'll
move
it
along
and
what
I
just
heard
as
the
instruction
is
to
send
it
from
there
to
Pat.
So
she
can
scan
it.
Yes,.
J
Once
it's
once
the
city
attorneys
take
a
look
at
it.
It
gets
put
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
right
and
then
it's
public
record
right.
So
then
we
can
get
public
input
that
way.
Yes
and.
E
This
is
this:
is
the
financial
piece
right
here:
what
I
email
the
process,
what
I
email,
because
I've
typed
it
all
up,
but
I
email
it
to
you
to
the
attorneys,
do
I
give
somebody
a
hard
copy
and
then
follow
them.
Email
give
me
the
process.
B
D
B
Two
weeks
and
as
I
said,
it
will
be
by
Zoom,
as
is
our
second
meeting
in
March,
so
we've
got
that
break.
We've
got
we'll
have
three
weeks
after
the
March
9
meeting
until
the
last
Thursday
of
the
month.
So
it'll
be
a
good
time
to
finalize
any
other
reports
that
we
need
to
and
put
in
the
other
work
on
the
agenda.