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A
Here,
okay,
so
approval
of
the
agenda,
we
will
start
where
we
left
off
yesterday,
which
will
be
you
will
hear
from
tourism.
Then
we
will
go
to
today's
agenda,
which
is
human
resources,
itt
and
finance?
Is
there
any
changes
to
the
agenda
from
staff.
A
C
A
E
E
E
This
indicates
a
reduction
of
675,
000
or
5
from
the
budget,
but
as
you'll
see
getting
into
this,
there's
actually
a
larger
reduction,
because
that
calculation
includes
a
a
pretty
significant
transfer
of
funds
from
one
section
to
another
which
to
cover
the
debt
service
right
now,
our
we're
having
no
personnel
changes
other
than
some
salary
modification
for
the
director.
E
This
is
the
convention
center
budget
for
tourism,
santa
fe
wages
are
are
shown
to
be
down
by
261
thousand
dollars.
That's
primarily
a
result.
There
were
three
positions
carried
by
the
convention
center
in
the
last
fiscal
year,
budget
two
park,
ranger
positions
and
one
special
event,
position
that
were
basically
going
to
be
loaned
to
the
parks
department.
E
E
There's
also
a.
There
are
two
vacancies
in
this
department:
litter,
one
litter
patrol
position
and
a
custodial
position
both
of
those
may
be
filled
by
transfers
from
the
parking
department.
I've
been
advised.
E
Under
contracts
and
utilities,
65
000
reduction,
55
000
of
that
is
in
utilities,
and
just
because
of
the
lower
usage
we
anticipate
for
the
building,
as
well
as
some
cost
savings
measures
that
the
operations
manager
has
made
in
the
building.
We,
we
did
changed
out
all
the
lighting
in
the
ballroom
this
past
year
to
led
which
will
reduce
the
power
consumption.
So
it's
the
combination
of
lower
usage
and
and
that
very
good
modification
that
was
done
to
the
building
and
then
another
10
000
in
contracts.
E
The
larger
of
those
was
a
a.
We
had
a
twice
a
year
window
washing
contract
that
we
are
going
to
be
bringing
in-house
and
using
our
own
personnel.
For
that
that
work
to
be
done.
E
E
The
I'd
point
out
that
the
other
operating
costs
are
up
by
345
000,
that's
primarily
due
to
a
shift
that
you'll
see
when
we
get
to
the
other
division
budget
in
advertising
to
better
align
with
the
funding
coming
into
each
one
of
these
divisions,
based
on
the
formulated
split
for
lodgers
tax,
so
532
000
was
moved
out
of
visit
santa
fe
put
into
the
convention
center
as
a
part
of
the
of
the
advertising.
E
Capital
outlay
is
down
by
232
million
three
hundred
and
seventy
six
thousand
dollars
we
had
in
addition
to
the
lighting
project
that
I
already
mentioned
this
past
year,
we
had
three
other
projects
that
had
been
envisioned
to
be
done:
renovation
of
the
second
floor,
terrace
area,
some
expansion
of
our
storage
and
the
con,
the
balance
of
the
led
lighting
change
out
in
the
smaller
meeting
rooms.
E
Those
three
projects
were
actually
eliminated
as
part
of
the
cost
savings
once
the
covet
19
hit
and
are
not
envisioned
to
be
started
up
again
until
we
see
some
recovery
in
lodgers
tax.
So
that's
why
that
is
down
to
basically
that
a
sixty
thousand
dollar
amount
for
small
projects-
and
this
is
the
big
transfer
out
that
you
see
the
three
million
two
seventy
three,
which
relates
to
the
enterprise
debt
service
and
costs
related
to
the
debt
just
down
below
it.
E
It's
merely
a
transfer
from
520
into
560,
which,
from
my
standpoint,
overstates
the
actual
expenditure
budget
by
that
amount
of
three
million
two.
Seventy
three
six,
sixty
nine
with
that
I'd
stand
for
any
questions
on
this
budget.
A
Thank
you,
mr
rondell
questions
from
the
committee.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you,
mr
randall.
I
was
hoping
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
what's
going
to
be
going
on
at
convention
center
this
year,
since
so
much
of
what
normally
happens
at
convention
center
is
no
longer
going
to
be
happening.
Similar
to
what
I
had
expressed
yesterday
with
recreation
is
a
concern
to
make
sure
that
we
are
looking
at
other
opportunities
for
our
employees
to
continue
working
towards
the
division's
mission,
while
normal
workflow
is
going
to
be
interrupted
by
the
pandemic.
E
Well,
thank
you
for
the
question.
Mr
chairman
counselor
cassette
sanchez.
The
we've
been
using
the
the
current
team
to
do
a
tremendous
amount
of
deferred
maintenance
that
a
70
000
square
foot
building
accrues
over
over
a
period
of
time,
as
it's
been
in
in
its
constant
use.
E
E
We
are
amazingly
going
to
be
having
a
meeting
there
next
week
that
will
engage
our
team
a
little
bit.
It's
with
the
u.s
census
is
going
to
be
doing
three
training
sessions
on
tuesday
july.
The
28th
this
this
was
a
a
these
are
meetings
that
are
have
been
given
an
exemption
by
the
state
against
the
mass
gathering
restrictions,
because
it
is
a
federal
government
request
and
we're
quite
excited
about
the
opportunity
to
test
out
some
coveted,
safe
practices
that
our
director
and
the
team
have
put
together.
E
E
E
If
that
doesn't
occur,
and
we
continue
to
stretch
out
we'll,
obviously,
first
we
won't
be
doing
any
replacement.
Should
we
have
any
of
our
team
members
leave
until
we
know
we
have
a
need
and
if
we
end
up
with
any
extra
capacity,
their
skills
are
tremendous
and
we'll
find
other
places
throughout
the
city
where
we
can
put
those
skills
to
work.
F
Wonderful,
thank
you
yeah.
I
do
appreciate
that
because
you're
right,
you
do
have
a
very
skilled
team,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
really
utilizing
that
and
letting
them
continue
to
grow
those
skills
through
through
work
as
well.
Instead
of
not
having
anything
to
do
one
other
question
I
missed
it.
You
had
mentioned
that
there
was
a
litter
patrol
and
at
some
other
position,
that's
potentially
going
to
be
filled
by
a
transfer
from
parking.
Can
you
remind
me
what
that
other
position
was.
E
Mr
chairman
counselor,
it
was
a
custodial
position.
A
Thank
you,
councilwoman.
G
I
think
councillor
lindell
was
next
all
right.
H
I
don't
even
know
if
this
question
is
for
you,
mr
randall.
Maybe
the
question
really
is
for
jarrell
the
city
manager
or
someone
else,
I'm
not
really
clear
why
we
would
be
adding
or
filling
vacancies
at
tourism
when
we
don't
really
have
conventions
going
on
right
now.
I
know
we're
hopeful
that
we
will,
but
it
doesn't
seem
like
those
were
critical
need
positions.
H
Maybe
that's
something
I
feel
like
to
ask
mr
randall.
That
is
putting
him
in
a
position
that
may
not
be
comfortable
for
him
to
answer,
but
it
just
seems
like
finding
positions
for
these
13
people
released
from
parking.
H
I
don't
know
that
I
think
having
another
custodian
at
the
convention
center
right
now,
when
we
don't
have
conventions
going
on
as
a
critical
need.
I've
got
some
other
areas
that
I
feel
like.
We
have
critical
needs
in
in
terms
of
personnel.
So
I
don't
know
if
anybody
wants
to
answer
that.
Maybe
there's
no
question
there
and
it's
a
comment,
but
I'm
troubled
by
that.
E
Mr
chairman,
counselor
lindell,
let
me
just
first
say
that
our
intent,
clearly
the
litter
pickup,
the
litter
patrol
position,
I
think,
is-
is
very
important.
Tourism
has,
through
our
litter
patrol,
has
picked
up
where
parks
had
some
shortfall
in
being
able
to
do
weekend.
Trash
tourism
has
taken
the
lead
on
that
because
of
of
the
attempts
that
had
to
be
let
go
during
the
cutbacks
and
so
the
intent
for
the
the
litter
patrol.
E
We,
we
certainly
can
keep
that
position
fully
engaged,
and
our
thinking
was
with
the
other
custodian
coming
in
that
we
would
use
that
person
there's
actually
three
positions
for
litter
patrol,
one
of
which
is,
is
on
a
hiring
freeze
and
that
we'd
go
ahead
and
use
that
third
person
for
litter
as
well,
to
give
us
better
coverage.
But
that
was
that
was
our
intent
with
these
two
positions.
I
Mr
chair
counselor,
if
I'd
like
to
ask
hr
director
bernadette
salazar,
to
walk
through
the
way
we
went
about
finding
positions
for
those
transfers.
If
I
may.
J
Salazar:
okay,
sorry
in
looking
at
those
positions
and
trying
to
ensure
that
we
preserve
the
jobs
of
the
employees
who
are
from
parking
that
the
positions
are
being
eliminated.
J
J
H
Thank
you
chair.
The
other
thing
that
I
saw
within
this
budget
that
I
haven't
seen
in
other
budgets
was
a
pay
cut
for
the
director.
Is
this
a
permanent
pay
cut?
Is
this
a
temporary
pay
cut,
and
why
was
this
director's
pay
cut
asked
to
take
a
pay
cut?
I
haven't
seen
that
for
other
directors,.
I
Yep
so
as
part
of
the
proposal
to
create
the
community
development
department,
as
those
departments
move
into
divisions,
this
position,
as
well
as
the
recreation
division
director,
took
a
pay
cut.
That
puts
it
slightly
more
in
line.
All
of
those
divisions
are
are
within
a
band,
and
so
that
was
that
was
the
rationale
for
that.
H
H
I
don't
know
if
that's
really
true
in
this
case
or
not-
and
I
don't
know
if
we
went
through
and
looked
at
every
employee
that
well
are
they
making
more
than
somebody
else,
I'm
not
overly
comfortable
with
doing
that,
it's
just
a
comment,
but
I
don't
think
that
we
want
to
look
at
absolutely
everybody's
salaries
and
say
well.
You
know
they're
making
a
little
bit
too
much
this
person.
H
I
I
just
I'm
not
comfortable
doing
that
and
I
think
in
the
case
of
mr
munoz,
in
separating
parks
and
rack,
that's
a
vast
difference
in
responsibilities
in
this
situation.
H
I'm
not
seeing
that
so
at
this
moment
I
will
leave
it
that
I'm
really
not
comfortable
that
we
walk
through
and
look,
although
I
guess
we
could
take
a
look
at
every
director
or
division
director
or
management
position,
salary
and
see
if
we
think
that
other
people
are
making
too
much
money
or
outside
the
bands
of
what
other
people
in
similar
positions
are
making.
K
Thank
you,
chair,
okay,
councilwoman,
via
rael.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thanks
to
the
staff
for
being
with
us
today,
I
just
had
a
couple
questions
on
the
budget.
There
was
a
line
item
that
I
didn't
hear
what
you
said
in
terms
of
justification.
It's
the
other
operating
costs
for
convention
center
and
it
goes
from
what's
currently
542
to
887.
G
E
Mr
mr
chairman,
counselor
varel,
thank
you
for
the
question.
That's
the
shift
of
532
thousand
dollars
in
advertising
from
visit
santa
fe
to
the
convention
center
you'll
see
a
significant
decl
decrease
when
we
get
to
visit
santa
fe
and
the
the
reason
for
that
shift
is
to
try
to
follow
the
allocation
of
funds
as
they're
distributed
of
lodgers
tax
between
the
two
divisions.
E
The
other
way
would
be
to
change
the
allocation,
but
for
years
we've
had
to
shift
money
back
and
forth
to
to
basically
follow
the
money,
as
opposed
to
allow
the
money
to
follow
the
expense.
If,
if
the
expense,
you
know
probably
eighty
percent
of
these,
the
expense
for
advertising
should
be
in
the
visit
santa
fe
side
and
twenty
percent
would
be
in
the
convention
center
side.
But
we
don't
make
that
change
in
in
funding.
E
So
to
balance
the
departments,
those
are
shifted
to
the
to
the
to
the
way
the
funding
allocation
occurs,
but
it's
both
coming.
G
E
Mr
chairman,
council,
very
real,
no,
not
the
revenue
side,
but
the
expense
side.
We
try
to
match
up
to
the
revenue
coming
in.
That's
correct.
E
Mr
chairman,
council
be
real,
it's
just
based
on
the
availability
of
of
the
the
revenue,
so
we
we,
it
tends
to
shift
back
and
forth
between
the
the
two
divisions
right.
E
G
There's
one
pool
of
revenue
that
comes
in
pending,
it
depends
on
the
revenue
of
lodgers
tax,
but
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
how
why
you
have
to
keep
changing
it
back
and
forth.
E
Well,
mr
chairman,
council
viral
the
two:
it's
the
formula
for
the
revenue
split
one
point
of
lodgers
tax
goes
to
the
arts,
commission,
the
the
arts
and
culture.
E
Two
points
of
lodgers
tax
goes
to
the
convention
center
and,
with
the
first
express
used
for
paying
debt
and
then
after
debt,
it
can
be
used
for
either
capital
costs
or
operating
losses.
Then
one
point
of
lodgers
tax
goes
to
the
convention
center.
E
Two
points
of
lodgers
tax
goes
to
visit
santa
fe
and
the
final
point
of
lodgers
tax
has
deducted
from
it
any
other
allowable
uses
that
are
not
part
of
this
budget,
for
example
the
the
amounts
that
are
transferred
for
police
and
fire
overtime
or
transit,
and
then
that
balance
goes
back
to
visit
santa
fe.
Anything
that's
left
over
goes
back
to
visit
santa
fe
so
because
the
convention
center
is
on
a
on
a
rigid
funding
of
three
points.
E
We
use
the
marketing
as
kind
of
a
balancing
account
between
the
two,
because
it's
the
largest
single
expenditure
that
we
do
that
impacts
both
divisions.
G
G
G
G
That'd
be
helpful,
let's
see
the
other
question
I
had
was
the
litter
patrol
I'm
just
curious.
If
we
we've
had
problems
with
the
now
that
people
are
eating
outside
more
often
there's
a
lot
more
trash
generated
at
the
plaza,
and
we
had
some
problems
during
a
holiday
weekend
and
there
was
not
enough
park
staff
to
cover
that.
So
I'm
wondering
then,
with
the
litter
patrol
person
not
being
eliminated.
If
that
person
can
then
be
focused
on.
G
Obviously
they
may
move
around,
like
ms
salazar
said,
but
that
there's
a
priority,
because
if
we
don't
have
enough
staff
in
parks,
then
they
would
need
to
be
helping
out
with
that
aspect.
Is
that
gonna?
Is
that
what's
gonna
what
we're
gonna
see
for
this.
E
Mr
chairman,
council
bureau,
that's
actually
what
took
place
after
that
we
had
had
the
litter
patrol
on
a
on
a
just,
a
a
regular
five
day,
a
week
schedule
and
and
and
prior
to
the
reduction
in
force
in
parks
of
the
temporary
and
workers.
We
had
not
had
extra
emphasis
on
the
weekends.
We'd
only
had
a
person
so
after
that
one
situation
where,
as
as
you
point
out
you
know,
and
and
frankly,
while
we
had
fewer
visitors,
the
amount
of
litter
that
was
created
was
increased.
E
So
after
that
one
situation
we
rescheduled
the
litter
patrol
people
and
we've
had
two
people
in
that
role.
Our
our
second
litter
patrol
person,
his
last
day
is
was
a
week
ago.
So
we've
we've
focused
both
people
on
the
weekends
and
we've
expanded
their
responsibilities.
They
had
not
had
the
responsibility
of
emptying
trash.
Their
purpose
was
to
pick
up
litter
off
the
ground
or
in
the
streets,
but
the
parks
was
handling
the
trash,
so
we
again
shifted
their
responsibility
on
the
weekends
to
also
deal
with
the
trash
situation.
E
G
Well,
more
people
are,
I
mean,
even
though
there's
less
activity,
there's
still
more
people
eating
outside
and
spacing
from
each
other.
So
if,
if
you
could
just
make
sure
to
coordinate
with
mr
munoz
and
their
team
to
figure
out,
when
is
the
best
time
for
the
literature
patrol
to
be
on
so
that
it
fills
the
gap
when
parks
cannot
be
around,
I
guess
the
overall
question
looking
at
the
convention
center
budget
and
realizing
that
there's
considerable
reduction
of
activities,
and
probably
will
continue
in
that
in
that
vein.
G
For
who
knows
how
long
I
guess
I
was
just
thinking,
the
things
would
shift
a
little
bit
differently
for
you
all
that
there
would
be
higher
reductions
of
expenditures
based
on
the
fact
that
there's
less
activity
happening.
E
Mr
chairman,
council,
via
real
a
lot
of
the
costs
of
operations,
are,
are
somewhat
fixed.
If
we
maintain
payroll,
as
you
can
see,
that's
the
that's,
the
largest
expenditure
of
the
887
000
of
other
operating
costs.
550
of
that
is
advertising
and
the
the
balance.
E
The
r
m,
the
repair
and
maintenance
needs
to
continue
and
and
actually
is
almost
increased
a
little
bit
as
we
focus
our
workers
on
doing
repair
and
maintenance,
as
opposed
to
setup,
and
you
know
they
need
supplies
and
they
need
materials
as
as
they're
doing
the
the
painting
and
the
repair
and
the
other
work
that's
going
on,
and
then
the
the
operating
supplies
is
the
main
way
place
that
we
see
well
and
utility
utilities
we
do
have
utilities
down
by
55.
E
000.40
of
that
is
electricity,
but
but
again
you
keep
the
you,
keep
the
air
conditioning
going
and
you
keep
the
building
in
working
condition
and
and
there's
a
there's
kind
of
a
minimum
as
to
what
electric
we
require.
It
may
end
up
being
a
little
bit
less
than
what,
where
that's
the
beauty
is.
If
we
do
control
that
cost
to
the
best
we
can.
I
mean
we,
we
could
come
in
a
little
under
budget
on
that,
but
we're
already
down
to
about
125
000
a
year.
E
I
believe
it
is,
and
two
and
a
half
years
ago
it
was
close
to
200
000,
so
it's
been
significantly
reduced
through
the
energy
savings
and
now
we're
taking
it
down.
Another
25
000,
based
on
the
the
drop
in
occupancy.
G
And
I
guess
I'm
not
really
talking
so
much
about
convention
center
staff,
because
if
there
was
a
lull
or
the
fact
that
there
aren't
events
that
we
could
move
them
in
other
places
for
the
city
needs.
If,
if,
if
needed
later
on,
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out,
maybe
you
could
explain
or
or
mr
carr
could
describe
what
you
all
are
doing
now
since
you're
not
booking
any
events
at
the
moment
and
I'm
just
curious
what
you
all
are
doing
in
terms
of
activity
to
promote
tourism
and
events.
G
Seeing
is
that
nothing's
certain?
So
I'm
not
sure
if
anybody
is
actually
booking
anything
into
the
future.
Could
you
describe
that
a
little
bit.
E
Mr
chairman
conservation,
we
certainly
can-
and
I
was
going
to
get
into
that-
a
little
bit
more
as
we
moved
on
to
the
visit
santa
fe
budget,
because
that
that's
part
of
that
component.
But
we.
C
C
The
revenue,
how
it's
dispersed
that
you
were
just
outlining
for
counselor
vrael,
what
what
dictates
that
is,
that
is
that
a
law
is
that
do
we
who
decides
where
all
how
that
money
gets
sprayed
around.
E
E
The
other
has
more
flexibility
with
it.
Oh
and
the
the
the
two
point.
That's
of
the
fifty
percent
of
the
five
points
of
lodges
tax
santa
fe,
has
two
extra
points
of
lodges
tax
that
takes
it
up
to
seven
percent.
E
C
E
So
then,
there's
two
and
a
half
points
of
lodgers
tax
that
has
some
flexibility
and
the
city
has
chosen
to
use
a
they.
They
actually
use
a
half
a
point.
E
E
And
then
the
the
city
has
traditionally
used
one
point
of
lodges
tax
to
again
help
offset
the
cost
of
the
operation
of
the
center
and
has
used
the
final
point
of
lodges
tax
in
the
same
manner
of
supporting
transit,
police,
fire
and
overtime.
There's
a
little
bit
of
of
funding.
That
goes
for
the
audits
and
and
a
few
other
costs.
And
then
the
balance
goes
back
to
visit
santa
fe
to
support
the
marketing
efforts.
C
C
C
E
State
law
does
decree
that
50
has
to
be
used
for
advertising
of
the
five
points,
and
the
two
points
that
were
special
for
santa
fe
must
be
used
for
the
debt
service,
capital
and
operating
losses
that
I
mentioned
for
the
convention
center.
Those
are
the
ones
that
are
that
are
specific
to
to
those
uses
and
then,
as
I
say,
the
the
balance
of
it
has
some
general
restrictions
that
preclude
it
has
to
be
tourism
related
in
some
way.
It
can't
be
used
for
affordable
housing
or
other
needs
that
are
non-related
to
tourism.
C
Okay
on
your,
I
guess
it's
your
contractuals
and
utilities.
You
said
55
000
was
going
to
utilities.
What
I
missed,
if
you
said
it,
what
the
other
10
000
is
things.
E
C
E
C
Okay
and
then
in
your
budget
and
given
the
problem
that
we
had
there,
is
there
any
staff
training
going
on
safety
training?
Are
we
still
doing
anything
there.
E
Mr
chairman
counselor
romero
worth
anytime,
we
can
do
safety
training,
we
do.
We
have
a
small
amount
of
training
dollars
still
left
in
this
budget.
A
couple
of
thousand
dollars
that
we'll
definitely
use
for
staff
improvement
and
most
of
the
safety
training
comes
in
through
the
city,
hr.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
good
afternoon,
everybody,
mr
randall.
I
I
have
a
a
question
about
maybe
your
philosophy
about
advertising
and
spending
money
for
this
fiscal
year,
and
I
don't
I
can't
tell
you-
may
have
mentioned
how
much
your
budget
was
cut
for
advertising,
but
I
know
we
have
the
visitors
guide
and-
and
I
do
know
that
you
know
if
we
cut
advertising
too
soon
well,
when
this
is
over,
maybe
we
will
have
kind
of
been
behind
the
eight
ball
here.
E
Mr
chairman,
councillor,
veal,
koppler,
thank
you
for
that
question.
I
think
that's
a
a
critical
area
to
the
first
part,
the
total
advertising
has
been
decreased
by
two
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars
to
one
million
three
hundred,
eighty
five
thousand.
So
it's
down
from
about
a
million
five
fifty.
E
So
it's
two
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars
down
and-
and
we
are
able
to-
we
have
about
200
000
that
was
committed
in
this
last
fiscal
year
that
we
put
a
hold
on
because
it's
actually
been
in
the
hands
of
the
agency,
but
we
held
the
advertising
be
because
of
the
14-day
travel
restriction
coming
in
state,
so
we're
almost
at
the
same
level
with
that
money
from
last
year
as
what
we
had
available
to
spend
last
year,
we
just
didn't,
spend
it
all
because
of
the
covet
19..
E
I
feel
that
from
a
philosophy
standpoint
we
need
to
one
be
sure
that
we're
very
flexible
in
how
we
can
spend
our
money.
We
we
had
started
in
june
with
an
advertising
program
in
the
in
the
drive
market
and
as
soon
as
the
14-day
quarantine
came
in,
we
put,
we
were
able
to
put
a
hold
on
that
because
it's
flexible
dollars
that
we
don't
we
don't
have
to
assign
contracts
that
that
commit
the
expenditure
so
being
flexible
with
the
expenditure
is
really
important
and
having.
E
We
will
be
spending
a
small
amount
of
money
in
kind
of
just
an
ongoing
awareness
reminder
about
santa
fe
and
to
keep
people
tuned
in,
so
that
when
we
do
open
up
travel
again,
we
then
will
be
able
to
increase
the
amount
of
expenditure
and
and
and
be
able
to
drive
people
in
from
markets
who
can
get
here.
E
With
regard
to
the
visitor
guide,
that
is
not
part
of
that
budget,
but
we
definitely
plan
to
produce
the
visitors
guide
again
this
next
year.
E
We're
bringing
it
in-house
because
of
the
problem
that
we
encountered
with
bella
media
this
past
year
and
their
inability
to
be
able
to
fund
the
printing
cost
in
advance,
and
so
we
will
be
doing
it
and
it
is
in
the
next
budget
as
we
get
to
it.
It
is
part
of
the
of
that
budget
to
produce
the
visitor
guide
on
a
break
even
basis
no
profit,
but
there
will
be
sufficient
advertising
sold.
E
L
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
The
the
the
question
you
were
asked
about
training
and
what
training
is
going
on.
Specifically
I'm
interested
in
safety
training.
Do
we
have
any
leftover
training
we
haven't
done,
or
maybe
we
weren't
required
to
do
it?
I
can't
quite
recall,
with
regard
to
what
osha
has
said
about
what
we
need
to
be
doing
with
our
employees.
E
Mr
chairman,
counselor,
via
koppler,
to
my
knowledge
we
are,
we
have
kept
pace
with
with
the
training
that
that's
required
there.
As
to
leftover,
I
mean,
I
don't
think
we're
in
arrears
on
it,
but
from
my
perspective,
it's
something
we
never
get
ahead
of
so
we're
gonna,
be.
We
will
have
ongoing
osha
training
and
and
but
there's
really
not
that's
about
all
the
money
we
have
in
the
budget.
At
this
point,
there's
really
not
much
other
self-enhancement
training.
L
Okay,
thank
you
and
then,
with
regard
to
counselor
lindell's
discussion
about
the
employee
assignments
and
salaries.
L
I
know
some
of
her
discussion
was
was
gave
a
little
more
liberty
because
of
the
emergency
resolution
on
kovid,
but
I
think
maybe
we
should
just
be
sure
we
keep
an
eye
on
certainly
the
emergency
situation,
but
if
these
this
organization
is
approved-
and
it
is
something
that
stands
for
the
future,
then
I
think
we
need
to
keep
an
eye
on
how
we
rate
or
analyze
these
positions,
making
sure
that
they're
following
the
personnel
rules
and
such
I
I
do
have
a
question,
and
I
believe
it
it's
only
these
two
divisions
within
this
department
and
perhaps
either
the
city
manager
or
the
hr
director
kid
could
answer,
and
that
is
how
how
are
you
all
handling
this
stat
or
how
will
you
handle
the
status
of
these
two
positions?
I
Mr
chair
counselor
v
hill
koppler.
Yes,
they
will
remain
exempt.
L
A
E
Mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
here:
you'll
see
a
slight
increase
in
overall
wages
and
benefits
primarily
due
to
the
lower
percentage
of
vacancy
credit.
I
think
that
was
discussed
yesterday
and
that
same
situation
has
occurred
here
under
contracts
and
utilities.
There's
a
pretty
significant
drop
there
it.
It
is
not
much
utilities,
it's
it's
virtually
all
contracts
and
I
can
go
through
a
a
little
list.
The
new,
the
northern
new
mexico
air
alliance.
E
These
are
reductions,
is
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
the
grants
that
we
make
through
the
otab.
The
occupancy
tax
advisory
board
have
been
suspended
for
the
year.
That's
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
the
grants
that
are
done
by
resolution
to
fiestas
and
rodeos
have
been
suspended
for
the
year,
because
those
events
aren't
happening
or
didn't
happen
or
the
fiestas
is
not
happening.
That's
50
for
fiestas
16
for
rodeos.
E
The
website
contract
has
been
reduced
by
from
150
to
125
000.
That
25
000
is
because
we're
going
to
be
bringing
the
production
of
the
newsletter
in-house
using
existing
staff
time.
E
We
eliminated
an
ongoing
support.
The
support
that
was
planned
for
literature
week,
which
was
fifty
thousand
dollars.
Another
fifty
thousand
dollars
is
reduced
for
a
new
event
and
that
we've
been
doing
regularly
ten
thousand
for
plaza,
wi-fi
and
an
additional.
There
was
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
fiscal
year
20
base.
That
was
actually
again
it
related
more
to
the
northern
new
mexico
air
alliance.
E
There
was
a
pass-through
from
the
county
and
from
taos
that
that
made
the
it
really
overstated
the
fiscal
20
base,
and-
and
so
that's
that's
not
factored
in
so
that
accounts
for
the
reduction
of
contracts,
repair
and
maintenance
is
minor
supplies.
Again,
it's
just
having
a
a
little
less
of
of
the
supply
base
that
we
we're
going
to
operate
with
less
insurance.
We
don't
have
anything
to
do
with
and
then
the
big
one
is
other
operating
costs.
A
million
320..
E
This
is
where
the
532
000
of
advertising
was
shifted
to
the
convention
center
and
as
well
as
the
reduction
of
240
000
there.
E
An
additional
90,
148,
000
of
travel
and
registration
related
to
our
sales
effort,
has
been
eliminated.
E
E
Where
we
offset
their
costs
has
been
reduced
and
there
was
300
and
what's
the
number
about
a
little
over
300
000
reduction
in
the
other
city
services,
expense
that
is
charged
to
the
visit
santa
fe,
so
that
accounts
for
the
the
bulk
of
that
one
million
three
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
with
that.
E
I'd
stand
for
the
questions,
and-
and
we
can
at
this
point
if
you'd
like
discuss
a
little
bit
more
about
how
we're
modifying
our
our
sales
approach,
while
meeting
business
is
restricted
right
now,
everybody
that
is
in
the
meeting
business
is
out
reaching
out
to
meeting
planners
so
that
when
it
does
open
up
we're
top
of
mind-
and
I
think
that's
probably
the
the
biggest
effort
that
our
sales
team
is
making
right
now-
it's
it's
it's
talking
to
our
our
past
clients
and
and
reaching
out
to
new
clients
to
let
them
know
that
santa
fe
is
a
very
good
and
safe
alternative
because
of
the
great
job.
E
Both
the
state
and
particularly
the
city
and
the
county
have
done
in
keeping
the
covet
spread
low.
So
once
it's
safe
for
them
to
come
in
and
not
bring
in
problems
with
them,
we
want
to
be
top
of
mind
in
dealing
with
them.
We've
done
most
of
that
in
the
past,
or
I
shouldn't
say
most
but
at
least
50
percent
of
the
sales
effort
has
been
through
the
attendance
of
meeting
planner
events
elsewhere.
E
That
was
the
90
thousand
dollars
in
registration
and
the
50
000
58
thousand
worth
of
travel
that
we've
eliminated,
because
we've
eliminated
that
person-to-person
contact
that
we
expected
to
use
through
our
prospecting,
the
they're
spending,
far
more
time
on
the
phone
and
in
in
in
zoom
relationships
with,
as
I
said,
past
and
future
meeting
clientele,
so
that
we're
top
of
mind
when
we
can
start
bringing
them
back
in.
M
Mr
chair,
it's
we've
been,
I
mean,
we've
been
receiving
probably
close
to
a
dozen
leads
per
week
at
this
time,
been
working
with
a
third-party
company
which
we've
received
prospecting
lists
that
we've
been
reaching
out
to
you
know
valid
clients,
so
we're
trying
to
say
exactly
as
randy
said
top
of
mind.
M
We
want
to
make
sure
that
when
we
do
get
the
number,
hopefully
sooner
than
later,
that
when
we're
given,
you
know
if
we're
allowed
to
do
gatherings
of
50
people
that
we're
allowed
to
really
go
after
it
aggressively
and
get
that
word
out
to
all
these
planners.
That
we've
been
speaking
with.
It
was
two
days
ago
that
I
had
a
request
for
a
150
person
meeting
for
this
november,
and
unfortunately
we
can't
do
that
because
we
are
not
allowed
to
have
gatherings
of
over
five
and
so.
M
Proactive
making
sure
we're
reaching
out
to
everybody
that
has
either
inquired
with
us
and
not
booked
those
that
have
booked
with
us
and
then
really
trying
to
get
out
in
front
of
other
planners
their
prospecting
efforts.
So
that's
what
my
team
has
been
currently
doing.
The
conference
service
team
has
been
real
busy.
M
Unfortunately,
we've
had
had
a
ton
of
cancellations
and
with
weddings,
quinceaneras
a
lot
of
local
events,
and
they
are
really
wanting
to
book
those
events.
We
have
been
putting
holds
on
through
september
october
november
december,
trying
to
get
those
events
rebooked,
but
until
we
have
the
go
ahead
from
the
governor's
office,
we're
kind
of
in
a
standstill.
E
Mr
chairman,
I
didn't
david
brings
up
a
good
point
too,
that
we
have
maintained
in
this
budget
the
third-party
companies
that
provide
qualified
lead
generation
to
our
sales
people,
so
our
sales
people
aren't
just
dialing
for
dollars.
They're,
actually
working
with
meeting
planners
who've
been
qualified
as
as
a
good
potential
for
booking
business
in
santa
fe.
H
No,
I
just
had
one
quick
comment
chair
that
I
really
appreciate
the
work
of
this
division.
We
have
to
keep
reminding
ourselves
that
the
world
we're
living
in
today
is
not
forever
and
we
have
to
continue
promoting
and
planning
for
a
really
robust
future.
I
know
that
you
know
we've
lost
a
fair
number
of
clients
and
conventions,
but
we
just
have
to
continually
remind
ourselves
that
this
isn't
forever
and
we
have
to
continue
planning
and
promoting
for
that
day
that
we
tip
our
toe
back
into
normalcy.
H
So
I
I
appreciate
the
work
of
this
division.
I
know
it's
hard
when
you
get
cancellations
and-
and
you
can't
book
things,
but
please
continue
to
plug
along.
We
have
to
we
have
to
plan
for
a
bright
future.
Thank
you,
chair,
councilwoman,
villarreal,.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
david
for
giving
us
details
about
what
you're
working
on.
So
are
you
booking
things
out
like
how
far
in
advance
are
you
seeing
things
being
considered
from
groups.
M
Right
now
we
just
received
a
lead.
I
think
it
was
last
week
for
february
2022,
roughly
1400
attendees,
so
I
mean
we're
booking
out
as
far
as
2024
right
now
and
so
groups
are
beginning
to
look
further
as
this
seems
to
be.
You
know
this
there's
no
kind
of
cure
in
sight,
so
groups
are
still
wanting
to
have
their
meetings
but
they're
kind
of
in
the
sand.
So
but
they're
looking
further
out
knowing.
F
G
Yep
cool,
I
guess
I
see
it,
you
know
we
keep
referring
the
governor's
orders
and
that
that's
dependent,
obviously
on
how
you're
booking,
but
it
also
the
way
I
see
it
is
you
you
should
be
thinking
about
in
order
to
protect
our
staff,
that's
why
we
are
making
sure
we
follow
the
governor's
orders,
and
so,
instead
of
making
it
an
excuse,
it's
like
well.
G
We
also
need
to
think
about
the
workers
that
put
everything
together
for
us
that
are
will
be
in
contact
with
people,
and
so
I
guess
that
to
me
is
the
most
important
not
because
we
are
mandated,
because
it's
like
a
punishment,
I
don't
see
it
as
a
punishment.
I
just
see
it
as
the
fact
that
we're
protecting
our
workers.
E
Mr
chairman,
counselor
via
rail,
I'd
also
like
to
add
that's
a
really
good
point
and
we
operate
with
a
lot
of
third-party
contractors
at
the
convention
center
as
well
that
we
don't
have
full
control
over,
and
so
I
think,
that's
another
safety
measure.
We
need
to
keep
in
mind
the
the
food
service
providers
that
come
in
and
a
lot
of
other
people,
the
av
companies
and
the
people
who
come
in
and
build
the
walls
and
everything
else.
For
our
events,
we
don't
have
as
much
control.
E
So
we
are
a
a
venue
and
we
do
set
up.
We
do
tear
down
we
clean,
but
a
lot
of
the
operating
component
are
third
party.
So
thank
you
that
that's
a
really
good
point.
G
Yeah,
it's
both
they're
both
and
it's
they're
both
connected
the
one
thing
you
were
talking
about
other
operating
costs
that
when
you
broke
it
down,
you
talked
about
what
was
shifted
to
the
convention
center.
What
was
reduced
because
of
no
travel
other
city
services?
There
was
some
event,
not
event
amount
that
you
said
it
was
240
000,
but
I
didn't
catch
what
it
was.
E
G
Okay
for
advertising-
yes,
okay,
thank
you
and
then
I
guess
this
might
be
a
question
for
mary
mccoy.
G
When
we
were
talking
about
those
percentages
of
lodgers
tax
and
mr
randall
said,
50
is
required
to
go
towards
marketing
and
then
the
other
breakdowns
he
explained
to
us.
There
was
a
percentage
point.
I
think
it
was
half
or
more.
That
was
supposed
to
be
going
towards
overtime,
which
is
not
allowed
at
this
point.
So
I'm
wondering
what
we
are
considering
for
that
amount.
G
That
would
typically
go
for
overtime
for
events
for
police
and
fire
and
if
there
was
any
thought
to
consider
moving
it
into
arts
and
culture
since
they
were
reduced
by
more
than
50
percent.
G
Yeah,
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
to
just
understand,
especially
if
we
are
using
it
for
overtime
and
we
no
longer
have
that
line
item
and
then
transit.
I
know
that's
an
important
piece
and
I'm
wondering
because
of
the
cares
act
funding
that
covered
the
majority
of
the
transit
budget.
If
there
was
another
flexibility
for
that.
G
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
I
want
to
piggyback
on
counselor
via
rails
last
question,
which
is
given
that
largest
tax
funds,
both
tourism
and
the
arts
and
culture
department
and
arts
and
culture
was
cut
by
over
50
percent,
and
this
is
probably
a
question
for
either
jarrell
or
for
mary.
How
do
we
know
that
we
have
the
right
balance
here
and
again,
I
recognize
the
importance
of
tourism
to
our
revenues.
I
understand
we're
not
in
this
forever
and
you
know
we
need
to
keep
the
convention
center
building
up.
C
We
need
to
be
promoting
and
planning
completely
understand
the
value
of
all
those
things,
but
are
we?
How
do
we
know?
How
did
you
evaluate
the
the
balance
here
between
these
two
departments
that
are
funded
by
the
same
revenue
source?
And
how
do
we
know?
We
have
the
right
value
and
I
guess
you
know
that
just
sort
of
takes
the
counselor
via
rails.
C
You
know
micro,
targeted
questions
like
is
there
stuff?
Is
there
money
that
might
be
better
spent,
making
sure
that
arts
and
culture
remain
as
strong
as
possible?
Because,
of
course,
that's
why
people
come
to
santa
fe
part
of
the
reason,
so
I
just
want
to
know
how
we,
how
do
we
know?
We've
got
the
right
balance
here
between
these
two
budgets.
D
Mr
chair
counselors,
what
we
can
provide
you
with
is
a
breakout
first
of
all,
the
state,
the
legal
authority
for
the
lodgers
tax,
so
the
laws
and
then
we
can
provide
you
a
breakout
of
what
we
are
expecting
to
receive
in
fy
21
in
terms
of
revenue
and
how
much
we
are
actually
using
of
our
fund
balances.
C
Yeah-
and
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
because
I
I
don't
completely
understand
and
part
of
the
reason
why
I
asked
the
questions
on
the
front
end
about
you-
know
the
different
percentage
points
and
how
they
can
how
they
get
decided
and
again.
C
You
know
this
is
all
important
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we're
doing
the
best
we
can
by
everybody,
but
I
I
think
it
would
be
good
for
us
just
to
take
another
look
different
set
of
eyes
and
make
sure
the
balance
is
right.
So
again,
not
trying
to
you
know
pit
the
two
departments
against
each
other
or
you
know,
create
any
animosity.
Just
I
value
them
all
and
just
want
to
make
sure
we're.
We've.
D
Got
the
right
balance,
mr
chairman
counselors?
Yes,
I
think
it's
actually
a
great
learning
opportunity
as
well,
because
there
are
debt
service
requirements
included,
and
so
that
is
it's
very
critical
and
a
non-negotiable
part
of
our
expenses
going
forward
over
the
next
few
years,
as
we
are
trying
to
manage
through
these
shortfalls.
C
Budget
so,
mr
chair,
how
do
we
come
back
and
and
look
at
this
with
the
new
information?
I
know
we
already
approved
the
arts
and
culture
budget,
but
can
we
if
we
approve
this
one,
can
we
just
ask
that
we
spend
a
little
time
next
week?
Maybe.
A
I
don't
know
yeah,
I
was
going
to
ask
the
same
thing:
miss
mccoy
can
so
we
could
approve
the
budget
now
and
then
can
we
still
have
this
kind
of
presentation
or
tutorial
on
monday
as
to
how
the
two
were
were
funded
and
what
decisions
were
made
and
why.
K
A
H
A
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
for
providing
me
with
this
opportunity
to
prevent
to
present
more
information
about
the
hr's
budget
and
hr.
Our
mission
is
to
provide
customers
with
human
resources
services
to
effectively
hire,
develop
and
retain
a
high
quality
workforce
for
the
city
of
santa
fe.
J
The
recommended
budget
also
includes
transferring
safety
positions
under
the
direction
of
emergency
management.
However,
with
this
with
this
proposed
change,
hr
will
continue
to
perform
some
of
the
safety
functions,
such
as
duties
related
to
drug
and
alcohol
testing,
dot,
new
hire
processes
and
substance
abuse
services
for
city
of
santa
fe
employees.
J
The
recommended
budget
also
does
not
include
any
pay
cuts
or
additional
furloughs
and
also
does
not
include
any
pay
increases
to
get
into
the
details
of
what's
presented
on
the
screen.
Right
now,
under
the
general
fund
for
hr
operations,
you
see
an
increase
of
253
234
dollars,
and
this
is
a
result
of
what
eli
explained
yesterday
pol
housekeeping,
so
there's
employees
that
will
be
moving
from
different
funding
sources
for
employees
to
be
specific
from
different
line
items
into
this
line.
J
J
The
amount
will
remain
in
this
line
item
and
the
purpose
will
be
to
fund,
if
approved,
the
retirement
incentive,
as
well
as
a
different
way
of
administering
retirement
contracts.
So
the
idea
would
be
that,
instead
of
an
employee
who
is
on
a
retirement
contract
being
funded
or
paid
their
salary
paid
by
their
department,
they
would
be
paid
out
of
this
line
item.
So
that's
why
you
see
the
increase
there.
J
The
next
line
item
there's
a
decrease
of
a
hundred
thousand
and
that's
for
contractuals
and
utilities.
This
decrease
is
essentially
a
decrease
to
our
contractual
items,
which
include
pre-employment,
testing,
background
checks
for
new
hires
and.
J
Pre-Employment
physicals,
we
recommended
this
decrease
due
to
the
reduced
number
of
new
hires
that
we'll
be
hiring
for
this
fiscal
year,
so
we
feel
comfortable
with
this
amount
of
decrease
for
this
line
item
the
next
one
is
relatively
small,
but
it
is
a
decrease
of
approximately
thirteen
hundred
dollars.
This
is
for
office,
equipment,
shredder
and
copier
maintenance,
so
we
feel
comfortable,
reducing
this
as
our
copier
is
under
contract,
so
we
should
be
okay
with
this.
J
J
And
the
next
one
is
insurances,
which
is
how
finance
assesses
the
next
line
item
other
operating
costs,
this
one
we're
decreasing
by
two
hundred
and
twenty
seven
thousand
four
hundred
and
twenty
five
dollars
for
seventy
one
percent.
J
This
one
I
bring
very
reluctantly
because
a
hundred
and
seventy
four
thousand
one
hundred
dollars
of
that
total
is
for
tuition
assistance
so
that
that
one
is
that
one's
hard
5
000
of
that
227
is
also
for
advertising,
and
that
takes
care
of
the
transfers
out,
as
andy
mentioned
yesterday,
are
part
of
the
finance
processes
and
that
takes
care
of
the
general
fund
line
items
for
hr.
A
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
just
clarifying
what
you
just
said
was
the
other
operating
costs.
You
mentioned
tuition
assistance,
which
was
a
hundred
and
seventy
four
000
a
little
bit
over
5000
was
for
advertising
and
what
was
the
rest.
J
J
G
J
Yes,
so
we
have
four
employees
who
were
funded
from
a
different
line
item
who
will
be
moving
into
this
line
item
and
which
positions
are
those
so
they're
they're
all
within
hr,
and
two
of
them
are
coming
from
the
health,
santa
fe
health
and
dental
salaries
and
wages
that
we'll
get
to
in
just
a
minute.
J
G
The
erp-
I
actually
had
this
question
for
it,
but
there
are
certain
people
that
were
assigned
to
erp
for
the
major
departments
that
would
make
those
transitions
is
the
transition
done
in
hr?
Is
that
why
you're
no
longer
meeting
the
erp
and
weren't
wasn't
that
person
hired
for
erp
not
for
hr
functions
so.
J
The
person
that
was
hired
as
the
hr
project
manager
was
hired
to
assist
with
the
erp
implementation.
We
have
gone,
live
with
hcm.
There
are
some
additional
modules
that
will
help
us
be
more
effective
and
efficient.
That
are
that
the
city
has
never
used
before
so
it'll,
be
an
enhancement
and
he's
helping
with
those.
But
the
position
was
actually
an
hr
position.
J
It
was
gary
bartlett's
position
that
he
held
when
he
was
here.
So
it
was
an
hr
position.
G
So
they're,
not
the
person
that
was
hired
for
even
though
it
was
through
hr
funds.
It
was
really
to
focus
on
erp.
So
how
are
they
still
connected
to
erp
when
it
sounds
like
the
implementation
has
been
finished
and
there's
only
enhancements,
which
I
don't
know
if
you
need
an
erp
expert
for
enhancements?
How
does
that
work.
J
Mr
chairman
counselor
via
rael,
that's
a
good
question,
so
the
focus
was
on
a
larger
scale
to
get
the
entire
system
implemented,
and
now
it's
going
to
be
a
little
more
narrow,
related
to
hcm
and
the
enhancements
and
other
functions
needed
to
be
performed
by
hr
employees.
Since
we
do
have
two
vacancies
as
well
as
during
this
covet
crisis.
J
There
are
other
assignments
assigned
to
this
employee
as
well
like
what
assistance
at
midtown.
J
So
this
employee
holds
a
a
very
vast
array
of
experience
and
certifications
in
in
the
clinical
side
of
things.
So
not
only
do
they
have
technical
skills
from
an
I.t
perspective,
there's
also
counseling
and
training
licenses
that
this
individual
holds.
G
Okay,
well,
I
guess
I'm
still
trying
to
figure
out
who
is
going
to
manage
the
maintenance
and
operations
with
the
hcm.
If
it's
not,
if
that
person
is
transitioning
out.
J
So
that
will
reside
in
I.t
the
maintenance
of
that
and
so
we're
we're
working
with
them
to
transition.
Some
of
the
the
last
of
those
functions,
and
you
know,
hr
staff
has
become
very
familiar
with
the
system
as
well,
so
they
will
continue
to
assist
with
that
transition.
J
G
It
benefits
hr
operations
and
wellness,
and
I
wasn't
quite
understanding
which
of
those
divisions
fit
into
each
of
these
funds
since
they're,
not
each
a
division
budget,
and
so
could
you
explain,
could
you
tell
us
the
total
number
of
staff
and
then
how
many
fun
get
funded
through
general
fund
and
then,
when
we
get
to
the
other
ones?
Maybe
you
could
explain
that
further.
J
Yes,
so
just
to
clarify,
we
don't
really
have
divisions
within
hr,
but
there
are
two
different
funds:
there's
actually
three
the
unemployment
is
separate,
but
it's
the
general
fund
for
hr
and
then
the
santa
fe
health
and
dental
fund
and
then,
of
course,
the
unemployment
fund.
J
A
Thanks,
thank
you.
Councilwoman
councilwoman
romero
worth.
C
Just
a
quick
question,
mr
chair
bernadette,
you
said
you're
cutting
in
advertising
and
you're
cutting
your
copying
budget,
just
curious
if
you'll
be
exploring
sort
of
electronic
avenues,
for
you
know
getting
advertising
out
and
then
also
for
beating
copying
needs.
Assuming
something
happens
to
your
machine.
J
Definitely
looking
at
more
electronic
advertisements
and
working
with
different
organizations
for
the
positions
that
we
are
able
to
recruit.
For
we
part
we
have
partnered
with
the
department
of
workforce
solutions
and
there's
been
some
other
opportunities
to
get
acquainted
with
different
organizations
through
that
group
and
as
far
as
the
copying
our
copier
is
under
contract.
So
we
feel
confident
that
I
think
we'll
be
okay
for
sure,
at
least
for
this
fiscal
year
to
to
deal
with
that.
C
Right,
but
I
you
know
again,
maybe
using
it
as
an
opportunity
to
reduce
your
copying,
needs
and
find
ways
to
electronically.
J
Meet
those
demands,
yes,
and
that's
that
reminds
me
of
the
implementation,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
of
hcm,
that
included
the
implementation
of
our
electronic
personnel
action
system.
So
we
are
doing
much
less
copying
and
everything
is
going
through
the
workflow
and
its
electronics.
So
we're
really
really
excited
about
that
and
things
are
moving
a
lot
faster
as
well.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
berna
did
I
have
a
question
about
the
lump
sum
early
retirement,
the
fifteen
thousand
dollars
you
mentioned
in
your
budget
and
I'm
I'm
concerned
well.
First
of
all,
let
me
ask:
why
was
why
was
this
offered
and
what
what
will?
What
are
what?
What
is
the
city
trying
to
accomplish.
J
Your
chairman,
counselor
reheal,
koppler,
that's
a
great
question,
so
I
think
the
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
is
further
reductions
through
attrition,
so
this
is
going
to.
We
have
received
approximately
30
employees
who
are
interested
once
it
came
out
in
the
paper
after
I
believe
the
first
day
of
budget
hearings,
and
so
the
idea
is
that
the
city
would
be
able
to
save
money
in
salaries
and
benefits
through
attrition
with
this
incentive.
J
Mr
chairman,
councillor
mihail
koppler,
we
looked
at
what
our
current
retirement
benefit
is
the
early
retirement
benefit
that
you're
familiar
with
and
looking
at
the
payout
and
what
that
might
look
like
and
what
would
be
advantageous
for
employees,
and
so
we
looked
at
it.
From
that
viewpoint,.
L
J
Mr
chairman,
counselor
v
hill
coupler,
that's
a
great
question,
and
so
I
think
at
the
onset
there's
a
designated
amount
budgeted
for
this
purpose
if
it
were
to
be
approved
and
it
would
be
on
a
first-come,
first-served
basis.
J
So
do
you
have
enough
money
for
the
30
people
or
mr
chairman
counselor,
v
hill
koppler?
I
we
are
continuing
to
get
calls
just
right
before
I
got
on
this
this
meeting,
so
we
will
have
to
update
those
numbers
and
we'll
reevaluate
and
we'll
work
with
the
finance
team
to
to
see
what
that
looks
like.
L
L
I
I
know
retirement
is
somewhat
something
that
all
of
us
look
forward
to,
so
you
know
that's
kind
of
a
no-brainer
for
them
to
want
to
retire,
but
initially
I
was
concerned
about
the
process
when
I
read
this
in
the
paper,
because
what
concerned
me
is,
is
that
we
weren't
targeting
people
due
to
age
and
that
we
wouldn't
be
violating
the
new
mexico,
human
rights
act
or
the
equal
employment
opportunity,
federal
statutes,
and
so
I
you
know,
I'm
always
cautious
when,
when
we
have
this,
because
both
of
those
the
statute
and
and
the
federal
law
protect
employ
employment
due
to
age.
L
So
I'm
happy
that
if
the
employees
do
get
a
lump
sum
to
leave
the
city,
you
know
good
good
on
them,
but
I'm
also
saddened
that
a
lot
of
the
experience
in
history
and
how
things
are
done,
there's
still
a
lot
to
be
said
for
experience
in
the
city
and
and
when
we
lose
that
you
know
you
don't
get
it
back.
So
thank
you
for
what
you're
doing
here
all
right.
That's
all!
Mr.
J
Chair
I'd
like
to
add
a
little
bit,
I
appreciate
your
comments
and
we
absolutely
value
the
knowledge
from
the
city
here
and
the
employees.
We
have
a
number
of
employees
who,
just
with
city
service
alone,
are
eligible.
Some
of
those
employees
are
not
on
the
list
of
people
who
are
interested,
so
some
of
them
would
like
to
continue
their
employment
with
the
city,
even
though
they've
been
eligible
for
a
few
years
or
will
become
eligible.
J
So
it's
a
mix,
and
I
think
that,
due
to
the
pandemic,
some
people
who
are
close
feel
like
this
is
a
good
time
for
them.
Other
people
are
saying
no.
Now
I
really
want
to
work
because
I
I
feel,
like
you
know,
we've
it's
it's
kind
of
a
mix,
so
it's
it's
nice
to
hear
from
employees
to
get
their
perspective,
but
it
is
a
mix
and
we're
glad
that
some
of
the
tenured
employees
are
choosing
to
stay
on
board
because
we
do
really
value
that
that
knowledge
from
the
tenured
employees.
A
Okay,
councilwoman
vrayal,
your
hand
is
still
up.
Did
you
want
to
add
anything
to
this.
A
Okay,
then,
mrs
salazar,
can
we
go
to
your
health
and
dental
section
of
your
budget.
J
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
so
the
salaries,
wages
and
benefits
you
see
a
50
decrease
or
216
146
dollars
and,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
this
is
to
accurately
reflect
where
these
employees
should
be
paid
from
the
pol
housekeeping.
So
two
employees
will
be
shifting
to
the
fund
that
we
talked
about
earlier.
J
J
So
it's
a
a
slight
increase
of
one
percent
or
a
little
a
little
over
ninety
seven
hundred
dollars.
J
This
is
based
on
the
presentations
provided
by
aeon
and
all
the
forecasting
with
the
claims.
There
will
be
an
anticipated
uptick
in
medical
claims,
but,
as
we
heard
throughout
all
the
presentations
provided
by
aeon,
we
should
see
a
decrease
in
our
prescription
claims.
So
the
net
is
about
a
two
percent
decrease
or
four
hundred
and
six
thousand
dollars
and.
J
J
We
haven't
received
what
that
will
look
like
as
far
as
costs
to
the
city
yet,
but
we
do
receive
when
the
department
of
workforce
solutions
receives
a
claim,
and
then
the
city
has
to
provide
that
information
to
them.
So
we're
we're
keeping
this
flat
and
we'll
really
monitor
it.
We
didn't
spend
that
much
in
the
previous
years.
J
So
again,
I
think,
just
by
close
monitoring
and
ensuring
that
we
take
a
look
at
this
and
we
have
to
make
some
adjustments
as
we
start
getting
those
claims
as
they
come
in
we'll
we'll
look
at
it
at
that
time.
A
Okay,
thank
you
councilwoman
via
rael.
Thank
you,
mr.
G
J
So
they
they
work
with
their
own
line
items
and
funding.
So
they're,
not
they're,
not
shown
up
here.
I
you'll
you'll
see
that
coming
into
the
emergency
management
budget,
I
believe
tomorrow,
but
their
safety.
The.
G
J
Mr
chairman,
yes,
counselor
vra,
also
they
they
were
similar
to
the
way
the
santa
fe
health
and
dental
budget
looks
here
or
the
general
fund
for
hr
personnel.
So
it
was
separate.
D
D
G
A
Right
is
it
because,
like
you,
have
fund
101
fund
605
fund
615,
so
it
was
probably
like
a
fund
700
and
something
or
whatever
the
fund
number
is
because
I
understand
what
councilwoman
villarreal
is
saying.
Usually
it'll
show,
like
general
fund,
went
down
by
200
000,
because
these
positions
moved
to
this
department
or
you
know
that's
what
we've
been
hearing,
but
I
think
what
you're
saying
is
because
it
was
a
separate
fund
and
you
moved
the
entire
fund.
That's
why
it
wasn't
shown
on
this
slide,
because
it
wasn't
a
general.
A
G
However,
even
if
it
was
part
of
this
it,
you
could
still
show
like
a
transfer
out
like
we've
seen
in
the
other
ones,
where
there's
a
there's
a
fund.
It
had
this
amount
for
whatever
fiscal
years
in
the
past,
and
then
we
showed
the
transfer
out
into
another
fund.
I
guess
that's
why
I
just
don't
understand.
I
was
thinking
part
of
it
was
transfer
out
for
605
that
75
000.
G
It
just
helps
it
clean
like
be
clean
in
my
mind,
even
if
it's
a
full
future,
it
should
still
be
on
hr
as
a
I
don't
know,
if
you
call
it
transfer
out
or
there's
another
term
to
show
that
it
moved
to
a
completely
different
department.
Mr
chair.
O
O
As
you
recall,
from
last
year,
risk
and
safety
were
part
of
the
finance
and
we
split
risk
and
safety
last
year
into
two
separate,
distinct
funds
where
risk
stayed
in
finance
and
safety
went
to
hr.
It
was
because
we
were
able
to
split
them
by
fund
both
revenues
and
expenses,
and
they
were
completely
unique.
A
Right,
I
think
if
I
agree
with
councilwoman
villarreal,
maybe
it
would
have
been
helpful
to
have
a
footnote
at
the
bottom
with
the
fund
in
saying
that
it
had
been
moved
to,
because,
if
you're
tracking,
both
last
year's
budget
and
this
year,
she's
right,
you
will
see
four
funds
in
last
year's
where
this
year
we're
only
seeing
three.
So
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
an
explanation.
Why
that's
the
case
now.
G
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
I
forgot
to
ask
another
question
on
the
retirement
lump
sums
this
would
be
for
bernadette
bernadette
would,
with
the
employees
who
get
a
15
000
lump
sum
in
the
end,
would
would
they
be
able
to
set
up
a
retirement
contract.
J
Mr
chairman,
counselor
b
hill
koppler,
yes,
the
draft
that
we
have.
We
have
not
developed
the
policy,
of
course
not
yet,
but
the
draft
criteria
would
allow
for
someone
who
would
either
enter
into
a
contract
or
perhaps
maybe
on
a
contract.
The
idea
would
be
that
they,
the
retirement
date,
would
have
to
be
december
31st
or
earlier.
L
Oh,
I
see
what
you're
saying
I
haven't
thought
about
that,
but
that's
probably
that's
a
good
idea.
The
what
I
meant
was
the
early
retirement
contract,
where
you
get
paid
and
use
your
leave
prior
to
your
retirement
date.
J
Chairman
counselor
b
hill
copler,
can
you
can
you
expand
your
question
a
little
bit
more,
so
I
can
make
sure
that
I
answer
it
correctly.
L
Well,
you
know
when
an
employee
is
close
to
retirement
and
then
they
enter
into
a
retirement
contract
to
use,
I
think
it's
half
their
sick
leave
or
a
portion
of
their
sick
leave
up
to
the
end
of
their
retirement
date.
So
it
it
that
is
attractive
because,
where
sick
leave
isn't
necessarily
paid
out,
they
are
able
to
use
their
sick
leave
to
apply
toward
leaving
employment
early,
but
still
being
on
the
books
until
their
retirement
day.
J
L
F
A
P
Let
me
go
ahead
and
unmute
myself
here.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity.
Thank
you,
mr
chair
members
of
the
committee
for
this
opportunity
and
I
hope
to
have
a
very
robust
discussion
with
regard
to
information
technology
as
we
go
forward.
P
One
thing,
mr
chair,
that
I'd
like
to
do
is
I'd
like
to
give
a
brief
introduction
as
to
how
we
got
to
this
budget
under
these
very
difficult
circumstances,
and
what
the
strategy
overall
for
it
is
going
to
look
like
for
fy21,
and
so
I'd
like
to
read
an
opening
statement
and
then
begin
the
process
of
going
down
each
division.
If
you
don't
mind,
yes,.
P
During
this
unprecedented
time
in
the
history
of
the
city
of
santa
fe,
the
information
technology
department
made
a
significant
strategic
adjustment
to
respond
to
the
health,
emergency
and
fiscal
crisis
affecting
the
entire
operations
of
government
services.
P
Over
the
last
three
months,
the
information
technology
department
laid
a
foundation
of
telecommuting
infrastructure,
initially
government
services
and
streamline
organizational
methodologies
to
better
respond
to
critical
services
throughout
the
city,
essentially
focusing
on
business
continuity
for
fy21
the
information
technology
department,
we've
we're
looking
at
a
strategy
or
a
methodology
to
better
align
with
the
city's
overall
fiscal
crisis.
P
What
we're
looking
at
at
this
point
right
now
is
to
be
able
to
implement
and
grow
e-government
services,
focus
on
mitigating
single
points
of
failure
and,
of
course,
be
able
to
cross-train
our
own
staff
internally,
better
respond
to
you
or
our
staff
as
the
customers.
P
So
this
gives
you
a
a
idea
of
where,
where
itt
would
like
to
go
for
fy21,
we
believe
that
during
the
last
two
three
months,
we've
broken
down
every
aspect
of
I.t
we've
broken
down
every
aspect
of
what
the
city
is
dealing
with
right
now
from
the
communication
standpoint,
what
we
need
to
achieve
and
how
we
need
to
get
there,
and
so
with
that
I'll
continue
on.
P
With
regard
to
the
budget
overall
and
and
again,
whatever
questions
we
may
have,
we
can
go
from
there
so
right
now,
the
ig
department,
at
this
point
in
time
for
fy21
we're
looking
at
a
decrease
of
one
million,
eight
hundred
and
twenty
six
thousand
eight
hundred
and
fifteen
or
twelve
percent
of
our
fy
budgeted
levels
again
very,
very
difficult
cuts
to
make
which,
which
then
proves
what
we're
trying
to
refocus
on
going
forward.
So
again,
some
of
these
changes
that
we're
looking
at
right
now,
personnel
wise.
P
P
C
P
C
So
we
were
just
emailed
a
presentation
to
update
the
one
that
we
had
received
previously
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
all
working
from
the
same
document.
The
document
that
you're
showing
on
the
screen
now
is
the
one
that
we
were
just
emailed.
Is
that
correct.
D
Mr
chair
counselors,
yes,
that
is
correct.
If
you
notice
in
the
header
this
morning,
I
noticed
that
the
version
that
was
emailed
to
you
last
night
that
our
staff
did
it
had
fy20
base
and
fy20
recommended
in
the
header.
So
the
correction
here
is
fy20
base
and
fy21
it
because
we
are
focusing
on
the
fy21
budget.
N
P
So,
moving
on
from
a
an
administrative
perspective
itself,
I
do
want
to
focus
on
the
the
bottom
portion
of
the
administrative
items
here
with
regard
to
salary
and
wages
itself.
As
you
can
see,
we
had
a
28
reduction
in
salary
and
wages
and
benefits.
P
We
are
not
filling
two
positions
right
now
under
the
administrative
staff.
Again
due
to
budget
reductions
for
those
particular
positions
itself,
we
are
also
looking
at
a
a
decrease
in
contractual
and
utilities
which
essentially
under
under
that
particular
purview.
There
we
had
other
consulting
part
of
our
fy
21
strategy
before
covid
is
that
we
had.
P
It
was
part
of
our
modernization
efforts
to
take
a
look
at
information
security
in
more
in
depth
and
be
able
to
modernize
our
information
security
programs
that
we
have
here,
and
so
we
had
to
make
the
the
very
very
difficult
decision
to
put
to
the
side
our
modernization
efforts
within
information
security
focus
on
our
foundations
that
we
have
today
and
continue
to
work
with
with
the
the
tools,
the
policies
and
the
procedures
that
that
we
have
as
well.
P
The
next
item-
repairs
and
maintenance,
of
course,
so
our
it
before
kovit
were
were
out
of
seringo
out
here
and
part
of
it
is
that
the
buildings
that
we
are
in
are
antiquated,
and
so
we
had
to
make
it
a
difficult
decision
now
that
we
are
telecommuting
to
put
that
off
to
the
side
right
now
for
doing
any
sort
of
enhancements
to
addressing
some
of
the
the
the
antiquated
upgrades
that
we
needed
to
target
at
that
point
in
time.
P
So
we
did
cut
that
out
of
our
admin
budget
supplies
office
supplies
basically,
is
a
big
one
that
we
had
taken.
A
look
at
approximately
90
percent
of
what
we
do
at
this
point
in
time
is
all
the
electronic,
if
not
more
so
we
do
have
a
small
contingent
here
with
nit
that
that
does
rotate
in
and
out,
but
we
have
proven
that
we
are
able
to
go
at
least
ninety
percent
plus
electronic.
P
So
we're
doing
things
from
the
electronic
signature
perspective,
a
digital
certificate
perspective,
basically
being
able
to
centralize
all
of
our
communication
within
a
communications
portal
that
we
that
we
have
within
it
itself.
So
we
are
able
to
reduce
a
lot
of
the
office
supplies
that
we
have
at
this
point.
P
However,
common
there
still
is
a
contingent
for
that
insurance
as
well
payout
per
employee.
At
this
point,
no
change
from
that
perspective
and
then,
of
course,
operating
cost.
This
was
a
big
hit
that
we
had.
We
had
taken
and
looked
at.
As
you
know,
within
the
information
technology
field
itself,
technology
increases
on
a
regular
basis.
P
Month-To-Month
things
are
changing
and
it
was
always
my
my
strategy
to
ensure
that
that
all
of
my
staff
were
up
up
to
date
on
technology,
not
that
we're
just
that
we're
currently
using,
but
technology
that
may
be
forthcoming
down
the
road,
and
so
we
made
a
lot
of
cuts
with
regard
to
in-state
per
diem
out
of
state
per
diem.
P
Training
seminars
that
may
have
been
out
of
state
so
again
this
was
very
very
hurtful
to
us
within
I.t,
and
so
with
regard
to
the
strategy
that
I
outlaid
before
we're
really
going
to
focus.
We're
really
going
to
focus
on
our
enhancements
internally
when
it
comes
to
how
we
are
going
to
be
doing
business
from
an
fy
21
perspective
and
cross
training
really
is
going
to
be
key
for
us
to
have
success
for
fy21
itself.
P
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Questions
from
the
committee.
A
A
Okay,
let's
go
ahead
and
then
well
do
I
is
there
a
hand
up?
Let
me
see,
I
might
miss
you.
Oh
yes,
councilwoman
beer
right
out
go
ahead.
Just.
G
A
quick
explanation
about
the
transfers
out:
what
did
you
say
was
the
adjustment
on
the
half
percent
grt
income
fund.
Sorry,
I
missed
that
because
I
was
trying
to
compare
this
version
with
the
one
that
we
had.
Q
Counselor
via
real,
this
is
andy.
I
can
cover
that
that
transfer
out
the
3.1
million
in
fy
20
base
and
the
1.247
million
in
the
recommended
budget
is
to
transfer
to
the
erp
project.
Q
The
reason
it's
going
down
considerably
is
a
fy.
20
include
still
include
some
startup
related
costs
that
will
not
be
recurring
for
that
project
and
b,
we're
basically
counting
on
carry
forward
of
the
projects,
in
other
words,
money
unspent
still
on
the
project
to
cover
some
of
the
fy
21
expenses.
So
that's
why
it
went
down.
Q
Yes,
yeah
erp
does
include,
I
believe
it's
now,
four
staff
members
that
have
to
look.
P
Mr
chair
cancer
villarreal,
no,
that
does
not
include
the
one
that
transferred
to
hr
counselor
via.
If,
if
I
may,
I
do
have
a
section
on
on
erp
itself,
I
know
you,
you
may
have
some
questions
with
regard
to
that
and
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
answer
it
at
that
point
in
time.
A
Okay,
let's
go
ahead
then,
and
go
to
technology
and.
P
Okay
with
regard
to
the
information
technology
communications,
this
is
basically
a
holistic
view
of
it
in
itself.
Again,
what
we've
experienced
within
the
last
three
months
has
been
a
paradigm
shift
of
of
what
we've
had
to
experience
in
the
past
and
so
going
forward
we're
looking
at
being
able
to
ensure
that
we
are
looking
at
things
from
a
digital
perspective.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
empowering
our
staff
members
with
the
proper
tools
that
they
need
to
be
able
to
do
their
jobs,
better,
quicker,
faster
and
more
efficiently.
P
Part
of
this
is
to
to
be
able
to
enhance
our
partnerships
with
every
department
itself.
I
think,
as
we
all
know
at
this
point
in
time,
the
shift
in
this
emergency
mode
that
we
are
in
right
now
is
really
changing.
The
paradigm
of
how
each
department
has
been
has
thought
in
the
past
and
how
we
need
to
think
going
forward.
So
this,
essentially,
is
our
our
mission
to
ensure
that
we
are
providing
the
proper
infrastructure
to
to
the
city
of
itself
as
a
whole.
P
With
regard
to
the
the
it
infrastructure
itself,
salary
and
benefits.
There
was
a
a
change
here
and
I
will
ask
finance
that
they
can
jump
in,
but
from
what
I
understand
right
now
there
is
a
vacancy
cri.
We
don't
have
any
vacancies
within
this.
This
particular
division
itself
and
I
believe
that
the
86
698
is
a
carryover
and
and
andy.
If
you
can
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong
on
that,
but
again
we
don't
have
any
vacancies
within
the
information
technology,
infrastructure
services.
P
P
P
We
again,
we
did
take
a
hit
within
this
particular
area
here,
and
there
are
two
major
areas
that
we
are
looking
at
and
continuing
to
reduce
our
overall
cost
throughout
the
enterprise
itself.
Number
one
is
network
charges
for
our
mobile
phones.
We
currently
stand
at
828
devices
mobile
devices.
P
We
do
have
40
firstnet
mobile
devices
in
in
providing
our
public
safety
from
pd
to
fire
in
the
past.
Over
the
last
six
months,
we
have
disabled
300
plus
lines
that
we
continue
to
watch
on
a
on
a
current
basis.
P
We
do
receive
monthly
reports
on
that,
and
so
we
do
keep
a
very,
very
sharp
eye
on
those
things.
Within
the
last
six
months
itself,
we
have
we've
had
a
overall
savings
of
11
600
a
month
just
in
our
mobile
devices
itself.
Again,
this
is
a
partnership
that
we
have
with
departments.
P
We
want
to
make
sure
that
they
have
the
telecommunications
that
they
need,
but
at
the
same
time,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
monitoring
all
mobile
activity,
whether
it's
a
mobile
phone
or
a
hotspot
or
a
air
card
with
any
device
itself.
So
that's
really
as
from
a
holistic
perspective
of
what
we
see
so
the
828
of
verizon
devices
that
we
have
out.
There
are
just
not
the
mobile
devices
themselves,
but
a
overall
conglomeration,
if
you
will
of
the
mobile
devices
that
we
have.
P
The
second
item
that,
where
we
we
made
where
we
continue
to
make
cuts,
is
in
our
voice
circuits
and
our
data
networks
throughout
the
city.
P
Here
in
the
next
three
to
five
months,
we
are
going
to
be
implementing
something,
what
we
call
geomax,
which
is
a
bandwidth
enhancement
to
what
we
have
today,
basically
more
speed
at
a
lesser
cost,
to
give
you
a
little
bit
more
in
depth
on
that
when
their
circuit
consolidation,
approximately
cost
700
a
month,
and
as
we
begin
to
consolidate
our
circuits,
we
begin
to
start
seeing
a
savings
of
700.
P
Now,
with
the
geo
max
itself,
we
are
going
to
be
one
of
the
we're
going
to
be
the
first
city
in
new
mexico
to
have
one
gigabit
connection
in
our
internet
and
partnering
with
with
centurylink,
as
they
begin
to
lay
fiber
throughout
the
city
itself.
P
It's
not
only
a
benefit
to
us
and
a
cost
savings
to
us,
as
we
start
moving
away
from
our
antiquated
circuits
here
within
the
city,
but
the
city
as
a
whole
is
going
to
benefit
for
centurylink
to
come
in
and
lay
additional
fiber,
which
will
give
us
infrastructure
that
we
need
for
our
businesses
or
for
additional
growth.
So
this
this
truly
is
a
a
a
big
deal
that
we
had
been
working
on
over
the
last
year
and
a
half,
and
it's
now
starting
to
come
to
fruition.
P
P
We're
delaying
some
of
these
projects
right
now
within
this
particular
line
item
again,
these
are
some
difficult
decisions
that
we
had
to
make
we're
currently
anywhere
around
90
90
95
modernized
in
our
phone
system
and
given
the
fact
that
we're
in
a
telecommuting
type
of
environment,
we
made
the
decision
to
to
to
hold
off
on
modernizing
our
ip
phones
going
forward
at
this
point
in
time.
So
this
really
is
a
modernization
effort
that
we're
just
tabling
at
this
point
until
budget
begins
to
open
later
on
down
the
road.
P
At
this
point,
we
don't
see
any
impacts
to
this
other
than
additional
maintenance
that
our
staff
has
to
conduct
on
some
of
the
older
telephonic
systems.
But
there
really
isn't
no
major
impact
to
the
city
for
us
to
hold
off
on
modernization
within
this
area,
the
capital
outlay
and
other
operating
costs
itself,
data,
processing,
repairs
and
maintenance.
P
Again,
we've
suspended
a
number
of
initiatives,
whether
it's
for
physical
security
upgrades
ie
video
access.
We
had
been
working
with
a
number
of
departments
to
enhance
their
video
services
to
the
monitoring
services
in
various
areas,
so
this
too
also
is,
is
put
on
the
table
because
it
is
a
modernization
effort,
so
we're
going
to
continue
as
we
are
today
and
not
adding
any
additional
feature
sets
out
there
to
the
different
departments
that
we
have
been
working
with:
ie
parks
and
recreation
number
one.
P
Over
the
last
three
months,
we
made
a
significant
investment
in
ensuring
that
telecommuting
was
going
to
be
possible
for
staff
members
who
are
going
to
be
telecommuting
or
will
continue
to
telecommute,
so
our
investment
did
lead
us
to
be
able
to
purchase
a
number
of
mobile
devices,
ie
laptops,
of
course,
with
the
current
operating
systems.
Current
security
feature
sets.
P
We
do
not
see
any
more
modernization
happening
with
our
workstations
throughout
the
throughout
the
enterprise
itself,
and
so
again
we
made
a
decision
to
be
able
to
put
aside
any
sort
of
modernizing
any
workstations
that
we
have
currently
within
the
city
itself,
given
the
fact
that
a
number
of
of
staff
members
are
telecommuting,
however
comma
we
are
still
monitoring
the
refresh
rate
of
these
systems,
which
again
the
city
has
has
typically
has
struggled
with
in
the
past.
P
For
example,
when
I
first
came
on
board
in
the
city
four
years
ago,
the
the
average
age
of
a
computer
system
was
8.5
years
which,
again
in
in
dog
years,
that
it's
old
and
antiquated,
so
we've
been
able
to
do
a
lot
of
modernization
over
the
last
two
years
to
be
able
to
give
staff
what
they
need
to
be
able
to
do
their
jobs
more
efficiency.
So
we
didn't
make
a
conscious
effort
to
put
aside
the
modernization
efforts
of
of
workstations
that
we
have
internally.
P
The
last
item
that
I
have
for
this
particular
one
here
is
the
capital
inventory
exempt
budgets
again,
it
can
constantly
manages
risk
on
a
daily
basis.
This
includes
network
and
data
storage
and
security
weaknesses.
You
know
we're
delaying
some
of
the
upgrades
for
a
short
period
of
time.
However
comma
there
are
some
of
these
areas
that
we
just
cannot
delay
past
fy21
and
so
again,
we're
making
some
some
mitigated
risk
decisions
here
to
ensure
that
we
have
what
we
need
from
a
network
perspective.
P
We
have
what
we
need
from
a
data
storage
perspective
and,
of
course,
we're
always
working
on
our
foundations
for
security
from
a
security
perspective
as
well.
P
So
this
is
what
we
have
right
now
for
our
infrastructure
and
again
this
is
our
our
main
department.
Here
of
I,
you
know,
use
this
as
a
lack
of
a
better
term
or
gazentas
and
our
gazotas
for
communication,
meaning
this
department
truly.
Is
our
internet
hub?
G
I
always
have
questions.
Thank
you,
mr
alicio.
I
just
needed
a
clarification
on
the
reductions
you
were
talking
about.
You
said
savings
from
mobile
devices,
but
I
didn't
understand
what
you
said
about
landlines.
So
if
most
people
have
reverted
to
using
cell
phones
and
they're
working
remotely,
and
even
just
thinking
about
our
land
lines
in
the
council
chambers,
not
chambers
offices.
G
P
Mr
chair
counselor,
via
real,
that's,
that's
a
really
good
question
and
really
what
it
all
comes
down
to.
Is
our
internet
backbone.
So
the
when
you
pick
up
a
phone,
it's
basically
ip
telephony.
So
it's
the
internet
of
what?
What
you're?
Looking
at
the
the
enhancements
that
we're
putting
off
right
now
are
the
newer
newer
phones
to
work
better
with
our
core
infrastructure.
So
it's
not
like.
We
are
going
to
you
know,
save
on
long
distance
or
anything
of
that
nature.
It
is
a.
P
P
Hence
the
rationale.
While
we
said
at
this
point
in
time,
you
know
we're
going
to
hold
off
on
any
modernization
efforts
and
we'll
continue
to
work
with
our
contracts,
our
contractors
or
our
vendors
to
reduce
any
cost
where
we
can.
So
that's
one
of
the
main
rationales
where
we
just
decided.
We
cannot
continue
to
modernize
our
land
areas
with
newer
phones.
P
That
that
is
correct,
they're
the
software
piece
that
actually
makes
the
connection
between
the
phone
and
the
internet
itself.
G
Got
it
okay,
thank
you,
and
then
I
didn't
hear
what
you
said,
but
the
percentage,
the
325
000
chain
or
other
operating
costs.
What
was
that?
What
did
that
entail.
P
There
were
partnerships
that
we
had
before
covid,
where
we
are
going
to
expand
two
items:
number
one
was
our
video
and
monitoring
capability.
P
I
gave
an
example
with
regard
to
parks
and
rec
to
be
able
to
stand
up
monitoring
services
at
various
parks,
high
traffic
areas,
of
course,
that
is
a
huge,
significant
cost
in
itself
and
the
the
second
item
is
basically
the
hardware
purchases
and
the
reduction
for
workstations
throughout
the
organization.
P
Again,
we
we
had
approximately
150
laptops
that
we
bought
configured
and
deployed
within
a
very
very
short
time
frame
over
a
month
time
frame
to
ensure
business
continuity
was
was
achieved.
You
know
throughout
the
city,
for
telecommunicating
and
again
it
was
part
of
our
conscious
effort
not
to
do
any
sort
of
modernization
to
current
workstations.
P
That
may
be
five
or
six
years
old.
Okay
and
those
are
big
costs.
P
Yeah,
the
capital
outlay
part
of
that
was
the
video
monitoring
accesses
so
again
before
covet
had
had
hit.
We
had
worked
with
the
g
triple
fee
and
and
and
essentially
enhancing
all
of
their
monitoring
capabilities,
so
that
was
one
of
the
big
pluses
that
we
had
in
working
with
g
triple
c.
We
know
that
they've
that
they
struggled
in
the
past
and
not
having
a
video
insight
to
the
parking
lots
or
even
in
internal
to
the
building
itself.
P
We
were
able
to
deploy
over
41
modernized
camera
systems
that
our
public
safety
personnel
can
review
it
in
in
or
can
view
it
in
real
time.
So
there
are
some
major
enhancements
that
we
did
with
the
g
triple
c
itself,
and
so
we
are
looking
at
moving
forward
with
other
areas
within
the
parks
and
rec
area
to
to
enhance
these
capabilities.
So
again,
these
were.
These
were
also
big
costs
itself
that
we
the
modernization
efforts
that
we
put
on
the
table
or
put
off
the
table.
I
should
say.
P
Okay,
mr
chair
counselor,
romero
worth
I
I
so
this
is
what
we
call
the
ip
telephony
project
itself,
and
so
I
p
telephony,
basically
is
picking
up
a
phone
and
speaking
over
the
internet
is
what
it
is
and
so
centurylink,
which
is
our
our
essential
backbone
for
the
internet,
is
our
our
major
partner
that
we've
had
within
the
city
for
a
number
of
years,
and
the
avaya
system
basically,
is
the
application
that
that
allows
an
individual
to
pick
up
the
phone
to
talk
over
the
internet.
P
Hence
it's
the
ip
telephony
or
iip
connectivity
itself,
so
centralink
when
we
partner
with
them,
it's
not
necessarily
a
cost
that
we
are
incurring
for
the
ip
telephony
itself.
It
basically
is
this
is
what
we're
charging
you
for
internet
service.
They
don't
necessarily
care
whether
we
surf
on
the
internet
or
call
on
the
internet.
P
It's
basically
a
fee
of
saying
we're
going
to
give
you
these
circuits
with
this
capability
to
be
able
to
communicate
the.
P
Via
real
was
is
essentially
that
application
and
her
question
is
a
very
good
question.
If
we're
not
if
we're
telecommuting,
then
why
do
we
need?
P
You
know
the
the
number
of
phones
and
and
again
we
made
a
determination
that
we,
we
don't
need
to
enhance
our
phones
at
this
point
in
time
and
that
we're
currently
working
with
different
vendors
to
reduce
any
cost
that
we
may
have
and
and
part
of
that
in
that
reduction
is
working
with
our
application,
which
in
this
case
is
avaya
to
be
able
to
reduce
those
costs.
P
Yeah,
mr
chair
council
romero
that
that's
a
really
good
question:
it
really
is
internal.
It
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
external.
P
I
believe
what
you're
referring
to
was
the
statement
that
I
made
with
regard
to
the
geomax
contract,
which
basically
is
the
partnership
of
centurylink
coming
into
the
city
itself,
working
with
the
city
of
santa
fe,
to
consolidate
our
circuits
and
again
saving
anywhere
from
1400
to
2100
a
month
in
consolidation
of
circuits,
but
at
the
same
time,
what
that
means
from
a
modernization
effort
fiber-wise
is
that
centrolink
will
be
laying
more
fiber
throughout
the
city
itself,
and
so
that's
all
part
of
our
cost
reduction,
because
right
now
our
current
circuits,
they're
old
and
so
we're
paying
again
700
for
700
a
month
for
older
circuits,
and
so
the
benefit
is.
P
If
we
go
to
newer
circuits
and
consolidate
those
circuits,
we're
getting
faster
speeds
at
a
cheaper
price
because
of
the
the
supply
and
demand
for
internet
service.
Today
we
were
able
to
coordinate
or
to
partner
with
centurylink
to
reduce
those
costs
overall.
P
So
this
really
is
a
a
huge
win
for
the
city
to
be
able
to
expand
our
bandwidth
capabilities
and
given
the
fact
that
we
are
going
more
and
more
towards
e-government,
we
are
seeing
more
and
more
people
use
our
internet
services
through
and
through
ie
people
sending
documents
that
are
you
know
one
gig
in
nature.
P
Our
network
can
handle
it
now
if
people
are
gonna,
be
saving,
you
know
two
gig
documents
or
five
gig
documents.
Our
our
infrastructure
can
now
support
that
or
we'll
be
supporting
that
going
forward
so
over
the
next
five
years,
or
so.
With
regard
to
the
one
gig
circuit
or
one
gig
capability,
we'll
have
within
the
city
itself,
we
shouldn't
have
any
problems
with
regard
to
bandwidth.
P
So,
as
we
come
out
of
telecommuting
and
we
come
back
into
the
city
itself,
there
will
not
be
any
sort
of
bandwidth
issues
going
forward
internal
internally
internal.
That
is
correct.
P
C
I
think
what
piqued
my
interest
I
mean.
Obviously
I
care
about
our
internal
capacity,
but
also
centurylink,
laying
more
fiber
lines,
and
that
should
benefit
the
the
you
know
the
people
who
live
here,
their
ability-
I
mean
we
know
we
struggle
with
broadband
capabilities.
So
that's
why
and
when
you
say
the
city
I
am,
I
was
just
getting
confused
about
whether
it's
the
city
internally,
which
is
what
your
budget
is
about
or
city
more
broadly,
as
in
people,
will
have
more
access
to
these
kind.
This
kind
of
technology.
P
Correct
mr
chair,
counselor
romero
worth
that's
correct,
so
what
we're
doing
internally
is
essentially
a
benefit
for
the
entire
city
itself.
P
So
let
me
kind
of
break
it
down
a
little
bit,
if
I
may
so
so
when
centrelink
begins
to
deploy
its
fiber
throughout
the
city,
they
section
things
off,
meaning
that
if
there
is
a
section
within
town
that
needs
the
fiber,
then
then
there
is
hope
you
know
for
lack
of
better
term
there's
a
spigot
there
that
a
business
can
take
advantage
of,
and
so
that's
part
of
the
foundation
that
centurylink
is
laying
here
within
the
city
itself
and
so
by
us
partnering
with
centurylink.
P
It's
given
us
that
that
that
one
gig
capability
and
again
the
constituents
for
the
the
city
itself
will
benefit
from
additional
fiber
or
additional
infrastructure
that
is
needed
here
within
the
city
itself.
C
But
you
mentioned
businesses
specifically,
so
will
residents
absolutely
residence
halls
benefit?
I
mean
and
again
lots
of
us
are
now
working
from
home
and
lots
of
business
is
now
done
from
home,
and
I
I
I
do
get
a
lot
of
complaints
about
this
anytime.
I
hear
anything
about
improvement
in
the
system.
It
piques
my
interest.
P
Yes,
mr
chair
councilmember,
that
is
correct.
Now
this
is
not
going
to
be
an
overnight
thing
right
now.
Centurylink
is
really
targeting
the
city
as
itself,
but
as
the
build-out
continues
over
the
next
six
to
eight
months,
we'll
continue
to
see
those
enhancements
that
will
offer
the
the
fiber
of
the
infrastructure
that
businesses
or
even
residential
areas
can
take
advantage
of.
C
P
Mr
chair,
I
account
for
merrill
worth
to
my
knowledge
that
the
majority
of
the
city
will
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
it
again.
The
way
the
outlay
of
the
city
of
santa
fe
is
I.e.
I'll.
Give
you
a
perfect
example.
Even
with
our
cell
telecommunications,
verizon's,
there's
still
some
dead
spots
there,
so
the
majority
of
the
city
will
be
able
to
take
care
of
it,
mainly
within
the
the
cerrios
area,
the
the
downtown
area,
areas
where
we
see
businesses
expanding
or
even
residential
areas,
expanding
itself.
A
Okay:
itt
end
user
services,
okay,.
P
Thank
you
appreciate
it,
mr
chair,
thank
you
for
the
question.
So
ittn
user
services
itself
number
one
from
a
supply
perspective
again.
This
is
our
our
our
first
line
of
defense
within
it.
This
is
where
our
staff
will
call
if
they
have
issues
problems,
challenges.
This
is
our
triage
area
here,
and
so
it
is
a
relatively
small
operating
group,
but
a
very,
very
important
operating
group.
Nonetheless,
again,
we've
had
to
make
some
very
tough,
tough
cuts
within
this
group
itself,
not
impacting
the
overall
service
or
the
services
that
are
provided
by
our
staff.
P
So
we
do
have
a
fleet
of
vehicles.
We
are
reducing
our
footprint
and
utilizing
those
vehicles
itself
under
the
supply
and
the
supply
category
office.
Supplies
will
also
be
reduced,
as
well
as
ancillary
software
licenses,
and
to
explain
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
There
are
some
times
that
we
buy
five
licenses
for
a
specific
application,
low
cost.
P
Maybe
it's
two
three
five
five
hundred
dollars,
whatever
the
case
may
be
so
we
we
normally
have
a
a
pot
of
money
to
where
we
can
expand
those
licenses
to
where
we
need
and
so
again
looking
at
fy
21.
P
We
made
the
determination
that
we
will
not
be
doing
any
ad
hoc
licenses,
but
will
be
mainly
focused
within
the
areas
of
service
that
we
need.
So
there
was
a
reduction
within
the
supplies
area
itself
operating
cost.
This
again
was
a
very,
very
difficult
one
to
do,
because
it
has.
We
had
monies
budgeted
for
training
and
certifications.
P
We
have
a
number
of
folks
right
now
within
rit
department
that
are
that
have
high
level
certifications
and
within
those
high
level,
certifications
themselves.
You
know,
comes
annual
maintenance
or
has,
or
we
have
to
engage
in
additional
training
to
keep
up
those
certifications.
P
You
know
throughout
the
longevity
of
the
of
the
certification
itself,
so
this
was
a.
This
was
a
heavy
hit
for
us
within
this
area.
Here
again,
because
technology
continues
to
evolve.
It
is
very,
very
important
for
us
to
train
our
our
our
staff
and
to
educate
our
staff
and
to
make
sure
that
we
can
turn
around
and
offer
the
best
the
best
services
to
staff.
In
general,
we
did
have
a
a
consolidation
of
software
as
well
within
that
operating
cost
as
part
of
our
fy21
budget.
P
We
we
made
sure
that
who,
whatever
division,
had
ie
in
this
particular
case
software
aligned
within
their
within
their
division.
We
are
consolidating
that
under
the
proper
group
just
so,
we
can
keep
better
tabs
on
the
on
the
budgetary
process
itself,
so
there
was
a
4900
change
there
and
being
moved
over
to
enterprise
application
services
and,
of
course,
we
also
consolidated
some
of
the
network
operations
as
well
under
our
network
operations
team.
P
So
we
so
part
of
it
again
is
a
reduction
in
and
non-discretionary
and
operating
cost,
and
then
being
able
to
streamline
these
these
budgetary
categories
and
the
areas
that
they
need
to
be
in.
So
with
this
emergency
budget
that
we
put
together,
it
gave
us
the
opportunity
to
streamline.
A
Okay,
councilwoman
villarreal.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
mr
alicio.
I'm
sorry
because
you
you've
jumped
around
to
different
categories,
but
the
salaries
aspect
was
because
of
what
was
the
increase
again.
P
Yeah
so
in
this
particular
case
here
we
we
did
have
one
vacancy
in
my
apologies,
mr
chair
cancer,
via
we
did
have
one
vacancy
within
within
the
the
I'm.
Sorry,
it's
not
on
the
the
right
chart
there,
but
we
did
have
one
vacancy
in
the
end
user
services
group
and
so
that
that
should
be
the
reflection
there.
P
A
vacancy
that
has
not
been
filled
but
that
we
plan
on
filling
due
to
the
the
critical
nature
of
the
position
itself.
G
And
that's
a
position
specifically,
you
said
for
end
user
or
you're
saying
it
might
be
in
another
area.
P
No,
mr
chair
cancer,
via
real
it
will
be
in
that
area
it'll
be
under
the
end
user
services.
If,
if
I
may
to
the
host
of
the
powerpoint,
can
we
go
to
slide
nine?
Please?
Yes,
thank
you.
G
P
It
is
miniature
accounts,
it
is
the
end
user
services
technician,
so
it's
our
front
line
staff
it
and,
if
I
may
add
to
that,
even
though
that
we
have
seen
a
a
reduction
throughout
the
city
with
regard
to
operations,
if
you
will,
we
have
not
slowed
down
within
the
I.t
department,
we
are
actually
receiving
more
phone
calls
due
to
telecommuting.
P
We
are
seeing
more
activity
with
regard
to
maintenance
of
systems
itself,
so
we
have
not
seen
a
slow
down
at
all
and-
and
this
position
is,
is
a
welcome
position
for
us
to
feel
yeah.
A
Okay:
let's
go
to
enterprise
application
services.
P
Hey
mr
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
just
to
give
everybody
just
a
real
quick
overview
of
this
particular
slide
here
it
does.
It
does
have
the
services
between
our
our
application
services
as
well
as
erp.
We
did
talk
about
how
the
erp
team
would
be
consolidating
under
under
I.t.
P
Part
of
that
is
again
being
able
to
achieve
inefficiencies
throughout
the
city
itself.
We
had
partnerships
as
these
were
being
implemented
via
erp
and
today
under
it,
we're
looking
at
not
only
taking
a
look
at
the
operation
of
maintenance,
but
the
enhancements
of
erp
going
forward
and
I'll
get
to
that
here
in
a
bit
with
regard
to
erp.
But
I
will
go
through
the
enterprise
application
services
themselves,
so
under
salary.
S
P
Thank
you
alexis.
I
appreciate
that
so
beginning
at
the
top
half
of
the
of
the
category
salary
and
wages.
We
do
have
a
six
percent
change
within
the
within
the
application
services
itself.
Again.
Part
of
that
is
the
consolidation
of
personnel
that
will
be
under
erp
enterprise.
P
Application
services
and
erp
definitely
go
hand
in
hand
when
it
comes
to
application
services
in
general
itself,
so
we
did
see
a
change
of
57
829
with
regard
to
contractual
utilities
themselves,
we
were
able
to
make
a
number
of
adjustments
prior
to
the
covet
hit.
We
had
looked
at
our
our
fy21
budget
of
enhancing
a
number
of
areas
again
modernizing
a
number
of
our
areas
and
unfortunately,
given
the
the
status
that
we're
in
at
this
point
in
time,
we
had
to
cut
a
lot
of
consulting
services
within
our
areas.
P
We
cut
consulting
services,
partners
that
we've
had
for
years
and
and
again
there
was
a
reduction
in
scope
in
a
number
of
other
contract
areas,
consultants
or
or
professional
services
in
itself.
P
So
this
was
again
part
of
the
modernization
effort,
but
having
a
reduction
of
89
908
we've
had
a
refocus
on
how
we
are
going
to
manage
the
technology
that
we
have
today
without
consultants
and
to
be
able
to
again
part
of
this
is
to
be
able
to
cross-train
appropriately
to
be
able
to
transfer
the
knowledge
base
within
our
different
divisions
itself.
P
So
this
was
this
one
right
here
was
was
a
challenge
for
us,
given
the
fact
that
you
know
we
wanted
to
modernize,
however
comma,
it
is
now
on
again,
as
I
had
explained
any
time
that
we
deal
with
new
technology.
There
always
is
a
learning
curve
that
comes
along
with
it,
and
those
consultants
have
helped
us
on
multiple
occasions
over
the
last
few
years
in
our
modernization
efforts,
so
that
was
that
was
tabled
until
a
better
budget
comes
along
in
the
future.
P
P
Now
those
26
applications
14
were
in
I.t
and
the
rest
of
those
applications.
The
rest
of
12
were
strewn
throughout
the
through
the
enterprise
itself,
so
no
impacts.
A
number
of
those
applications
of
the
12
had
to
do
with
land
use
support
which
is
now
erp
intergov.
So
we
were
able
to
make
a
huge
reduction
of
around
54
000
of
an
application
and
to
be
able
to
incorporate
what
we
need
within
the
undergo
area
itself.
P
The
other
strategy
that
we
had
is
making
sure
that
the
software
that
we
have
can
support
the
different
departments
that
are
out
there
and
their
needs,
and
given
the
fact
that
we
have
the
the
sufficient
applications
to
be
able
to
move
into
an
e-government
realm,
we're
confident
that
the
applications
that
we
have
today
to
support
the
government
and
the
different
departments
will
will
benefit.
So
again,
we
continue
to
work
with
our
vendors.
We
continue
to
consolidate.
I
don't
see
this
stopping
over
the
next
year.
P
We
will
continue
to
consolidate
where
we
can,
which
then
equals
a
reduction
in
reduction
in
and
application
cost.
So
this
is
going
to
be
an
ongoing
project
that
we
have,
but
we
had
identified
26
total
applications,
other
items
that
we
have
under
supplies
itself.
Of
course,
office
supplies
will
be,
we've
already
talked
about
where
we're
telecommuting,
90,
90,
plus
right
now
we
can
deal
with
without
office
supplies.
P
We
have
our
mobile
devices.
We
have
our
laptops
to
be
able
to
do
our
our
business
as
appropriate.
We
are
moving
away
right
now
from
hardware,
I.e,
servers,
physical
servers
and
going
towards
a
consolidated
effort
being
able
to
do
what
we
call
virtual
server
build
outs.
P
That's
going
to
be
another
huge
reduction
in
not
only
footprint
from
a
hardware
perspective,
but
in
cost
itself,
so
we
were
able
to
to
make
a
number
of
reductions
in
those
areas
to
have
a
smaller
footprint
going
forward
with
our
operations
in
general.
P
So
we
we
truly
focused
on
reducing
the
number
of
applications
that
we
have
out
there
today
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
to
focus
in
that
area
to
to
make
those
reductions
and
to
have
more
of
a
centralized
type
of
way
of
of
doing
business
here
throughout
the
enterprise
throughout
the
city
itself,
so
that
that
is
where,
where
we
had
to
make
some
some
good
cuts,
some
very
smart
cuts
under
the
supply
area
operating
costs
in
itself.
P
This
is
another
item
here
of
training
and
education
and
certifying
we.
We
still
today
are
dealing
with
a
number
of
technologically
advanced
applications,
whether
that
is
the
esri
technology
gis
application.
Additional
erp
upgrades
that
we're
looking
at
to
conduct
over
fy21
we've
had
to
make
cuts
with
regard
to
travel
seminars,
etc.
P
So
I
I've
emphasized
this
before
for
each
one
of
my
departments
two
three
years
ago,
as
we
begin
this
track
of
educating
our
folks,
it
was
very,
very
difficult
to
see
our
server
engineers
or
even
our
network
engineers,
taking
out
a
thousand
page
document,
to
learn
how
to
build
a
virtual
server
and,
and
that's
really
no
way
to
to
enhance
a
knowledge
base.
P
It's
a
supplement,
but
it
is
imperative
that
that
our
staff
continues
to
stay
above
the
curve
when
it
comes
to
supporting
these
advanced
type
of
applications
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
that
when
we
bring
in
an
application
and
as
a
perfect
example,
office
365.,
it
has
so
many
capabilities
built
in
it's
not
just
the
word
processors.
P
It's
not
just
an
email
application.
It
is
a
full
collaborative
suite,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
are
taking
advantage
of
what
we
have
our
hsa
staff.
What
we
have
today
and
to
maximize
that
focus
within
those
applications
that
we
have
today.
So
this
is
where
we're
we're
focusing
from
that
perspective
and
the
cross
training
and
helping
one
another
within
our
department
is
going
to
help
us
overcome
the
lack
of
training
or
the
or
the
needed
certifications
for
fy21.
P
So
this
was
a
very,
very
difficult
one
for
us
to
look
at,
but
you
know
we're
in
good
company
across
the
across
the
city.
So
that's
the
application
services
before
I
move
on
to
erp
itself
do
do
we
have
any
questions
with
regard
to
the
applications
councilwoman
via
rael.
G
I
think
I
I
was
waiting
for
erp,
so,
let's
move
on,
I
mean
I'm
ready
to
move
on
to
that.
Okay,.
A
Okay,
yeah,
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
up
for
related
to
the
application.
So
yeah.
Let's
move
on
to
erp.
P
So,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
counselors.
I
appreciate
that
we'll
move
on
to
erp
and
before
I
get
into
the
numbers
I
do
want
to
provide
an
overview
of
our
consolidated
effort
with
regard
to
erp
itself.
We
did
start
this
track
a
number
of
years
ago.
P
There
there
of
course,
had
been
some
challenges
that
we
had
over
the
last
couple
years
and-
and
I
will
say
and,
and
I
will
say
this-
there
are
three
areas
right
now
that
we
are
focusing
on
with
regard
to
erp,
as
we
consolidate
the
number
one
area
that
we're
focusing
on
is,
of
course,
the
implementation
of
erp.
P
We
we
are
now
one
year
in
to
erp,
and
there
has
been
a
lot
of
lessons
learned
with
regard
to
that
and
part
of
these
lessons
learned
and
part
of
the
challenges
that
we've
had,
of
course,
is
the
pain
of
moving
from
a
20
year
old
system
to
a
more
advanced,
even
though
it's
a
few
versions
behind
a
more
advanced
type
of
technology.
P
P
This
is
this
is
where
we
actually
looked
at
it
and
said
to
ourselves.
This
is
very
advanced
in
nature
here
of
what
we're
bringing
in.
Hence
the
challenges
that
we've
had
with
the
implementation
of
erp.
P
P
There
is
a
learning
curve,
as
you
start
to
implement
these
this
transition.
If
you
will
of
information
to
one
system
to
the
other,
it's
not
a
one
for
one.
It
is
a
constant
monitoring
of
of
being
able
to
move
information
to
from
one
side
to
the
other
and
to
say:
okay,
were
we
able
to
make
the
connection
and
how
did
that
connection
ma
and
how
did
that
connection
look?
P
P
So
there
was
a
significant
training
issue
when
it
came
to
pouring
over
information
from
one
from
one
system
to
the
other
and
just
a
real,
quick
antidote
on
that.
Just
to
kind
of
put
this
into
perspective-
and
I
don't
mean
to
go
off
on
a
tangent,
but
this
will
definitely
help
kind
of
put
things
into
perspective.
P
Yeah
implementation
council,
via
implementation
and
training,
as
well
as
the
technical
piece
of
things,
so
there's
there's
three
things
that
from
an
erp
that
we're
looking
at
at
this
point
in
time
and
so
to
kind
of
give
a
little
bit
of
context.
To
that
and
again
it's
it's.
It's
an
analogy
that
I'm
making
here
to
to
better
understand
what
we've
dealt
with
within
the
city
itself.
P
If
you
recall
a
few
months
back,
the
stimulus
checks
that
were
that
were
being
cut
by
the
federal
government
come
to
find
out.
One
of
the
major
delays
that
that
the
federal
government
had
is
that
they
still
had
a
system
that
was
running
a
programming
language
that
was
built
in
the
1950s,
and
there
was
a
massive
call
for
programmers
to
come
back
and
to
be
able
to
fill
those
positions
to
be
able
to
meet
the
needs
of
today
and
that's
and
on
a
smaller
scale.
P
That's
what
we've
had
to
deal
with
internally
with
regard
to
erp,
and
so
we
over
the
last
six
months.
We
we
really
boiled
it
down
to
those
three
different
categories:
challenges
and
implementation
challenges
and
training
and
challenges
from
the
technical
perspective
and,
as
I
said
from
an
antiquated
perspective,
that
type
of
of
expertise
does
not
grow
on
trees,
the
as400
or
the
jd
edwards
application
they're
there.
It
is
very,
very
rare
to
find
individuals.
P
So,
over
the
last
six
months,
we've
been
able
to
work
as
a
partnership
with
finance
with
hr
with
land
use
to
bring
in
the
proper
consultants
to
be
able
to
achieve
these
particular
areas.
Here
that
I
outlined
so
again,
I
don't
mean
to
be
rudimentary,
but
I
at
least
want
to
give
a
idea
of
what
we've
had
to
deal
with,
not
just
within
I.t,
but
finance,
hr
and
and
land
use.
Overall,
and
from
my
perspective,
this
was
a
very,
very
difficult
transition,
one
that
I
would
equate
to.
P
P
So
the
transitions
just
don't
happen
one-to-one,
so
that
kind
of
gives
a
context
of
erp
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
right
now
to
streamline
the
services
going
across
the
board
and
and
being
able
to
bring
erp
staff
in
we're,
looking
at
being
able
to
gain
greater
efficiencies,
with
protocol
being
able
to
again
cross-train
where
we
need
to
have
a
primary
secondary
role
within
this
area.
P
Since
e-government
is
going
to
be
the
the
key
factor
for
fy
21
erp
is
going
to
be
front
and
center,
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
if,
as
resources
were
coming
over
to
it,
that
we
are
going
to
be
able
to
focus
and
concentrate
on
consolidating
erp
under
under
it
to
to
enhance
our
efficiencies
going
forward.
So
what
we
did
prior
again
being
able
to
understand
what
those
lessons
learned
and
to
know
and
to
understand
that
consolidation
was
the
best
approach
for
us
going
forward.
Hence
the
reason
erp
coming
under
I.t,
okay,
questions.
G
I
just
wanted
to
understand
from
the
financial
perspective.
I
don't
know
if
they
all
fall
under
cip
special
projects
or
the
five
positions
you're
talking
about
for
erp.
Where
are
they
located?
I
know
they're
under
itt,
but
where
will
be
their
emphasis
if
there's
five.
P
G
D
Mr
chairman,
I'm
going
to
ask
andy
hopkins
to
weigh
in
this
is
the
fund
325,
the
cip
special
projects
that
does
carry
multiple
cip
projects,
including
including
the
implementation
and
ongoing
support
for
our
enterprise
system?
So
andy,
if
you
can
dive
into
the
detail
on
this
one.
Q
Q
The
details
were
still
being
worked
out
as
we
implemented
the
budget
for
fy
20
last
year,
and
it
wasn't
until
early
in
the
calendar
year
of
fy
20
after
the
mid-year
budget,
that
we
were
able
to
figure
out
exactly.
Q
You
know
what
the
salaries
and
benefits
were
going
to
be,
who
was
moving
over
and
all
that
stuff.
So
that's
why
you
don't
see
any
history
there,
because
that
was
just
a
product
of
the
timing.
P
I
apologize
that
counselor
via
real.
Was
that
question
for
me
or
or
mr
hopkins.
P
All
right
I'll
go
ahead
and
take
that
counselor
via
andy.
P
If
you
can
supplement,
if
I
do
misspeak
mr
chair
counselor,
via
real
with
regard
to
the
contractuals
and
utilities
again
with
our
our
our
focus
on
e-government,
we're
looking
at
not
only
being
able
to
handle
the
maintenance
and
operations
with
an
erp
that
we
have
itself
but
to
move
to
newer
versions
within
erp
and
so
part
of
that,
newer
version
is
that
where
we
we
do
have
to
rely
on
our
vendor
to
assist
us
with
regard
to
the
consulting
are
the
contractuals
and
the
utilities
itself.
P
And
so
we
are
looking
at
not
only
relying
on
on
tyler
to
continue
to
assist
us
with
this
upgrade.
We
are
looking
at
also
bringing
in
a
consultant
to
help
bridge
the
gap
between
older
system
and
the
the
north
system
itself.
So
part
of
the
consulting
that
we're
looking
at
right
now
is
we're
looking
at
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
a
consultant
to
be
able
to
assist
us
with
this.
P
P
We
are
also
looking
at
tyler
consulting
services,
which
would
be
around
fifty
thousand
dollars
approximate
for
any
billable
work
that
we
may
have
with
them
and,
of
course,
any
sort
of
contingencies
that
we
may
run
into
going
forward.
So
this
is
what
we
are
looking
at
at
this
time
for
the
contractual
and
the
utilities
to
be
able
to
assist
us
with
this
upgrade.
G
You
just
said
two
small
amounts
and
the
total
amount
is
914
thousand
dollars.
What
makes
up
the
rest
of
that
vendor
technical
assistance.
P
Correct,
and
so
the
other
part
of
that
mr
chair
counselor,
part
of
that
is
also
going
to
be
the
tyler
upgrade
contract
support,
which
is
going
to
be
125
thousand
dollars.
P
There
also
is
monies
that
are
budgeted
for
the
modules
that
we
are
going
to
be
upgrading
within
the
the
munis
upgrade
itself,
and
there
isn't
it's
an
approximate
amount
that
we're
looking
at
and
may
hit
that
amount.
P
So
those
are
the
the
numbers
that
we
we
have
at
this
point
in
time
to
be
able
to
address
the
both
the
upgrade
for
erp
and
the
the
consulting
that
we're
going
to
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
proper
upgrade
installed.
G
P
P
And
then,
of
course,
mr
manuel
gonzalez
is,
is
going
to
continue
to
be
the
program
manager
and
working
with
the
erp
staff.
So
he
will
be
what
we
call
operational
control,
meaning
that
he'll
be
working
with
the
staff
on
the
daily
basis
to
make
sure
that
operation
and
maintenance
is
being
dealt
with
on
a
regular
basis,
as
well
as
what
we're
looking
at
for
our
any
sort
of
upgrades
that
we
may
have
or
that
we
are
going
to
have
in
the
near
future.
P
Mr
chair
counselor,
that
is
a
really
good
question
and
right
now
we
have
a
heavy
focus
within
the
financial
area,
and
so
we
are
going
to
have
a
primary
administrator
over
finance.
We'll
continue
our
partnership
with
with
finance
as
well
just
to
make
sure
that
that
primary
focus
stays
as
director.
Salazar
had
explained
that
the
pro
the
project
manager
that
we
had
before
under
erp
will
be
that
bridge
or
that
gap
between
themselves
and
I.t.
P
So
we
are
going
to
have
a
primary
administrator
that
will
be
bridging
that
gap
between
iit
and
hr
and
then,
of
course,
we
will
have
a
primary
responsibility
for
land
use
to
be
that
to
be
that
go-to
individual.
So
all
three
departments
are
going
to
have
a
dedicated
resource
as
well
as
secondary
help
within
those
areas
itself.
So
we
don't
want
to
lose
track
of
of
the
upgrades
that
are
happening
and
at
the
same
time
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
needs
are
being
met
by
each
department.
P
So
right
now
the
emphasis
really
for
fy21
is
going
to
be
financed
with
a
supplement
and
a
partnership
with
hr
and
them
building
out
the
and
enhancing
their
modules.
At
this
point
in
time,
whether
it's
for
a
vendor
or
excuse
me,
employee,
self-service
or
pas
online,
so
there
still
is.
P
There
still
is
some
enhancement
areas
that
we
can
make
to
move
away
from
the
the
paper
process
which
has
already
begun
to
implement
at
this
point,
but
just
to
reemphasize,
each
one
of
these
areas
will
have
a
primary
point
of
contact
and
a
secondary
person
to
make
sure
now
to
expand
a
little
bit
more.
G
So
essentially
you
have
a
new
person
dealing
with
hr.
I
erp
now
versus
what
I
was
told
in
hr.
P
Mr
chair
accounts
for
via
real
necessarily
we
have
individuals
right
now
that
that
had
been
working
with
hr,
to
enhance
those
capabilities
or
to
implement
those
capabilities.
So
they're,
not
new
individuals,
they're,
not
new
administrators,
that
we
have.
They
have
a
very
intimate
working
relationship
with
hr,
so
we're
not
losing
any
continuity
by
bringing
those
individuals
under
I.t
in
any
way
shape
or
form.
So.
P
Mr
chair
counselor,
so
the
the
objective
that
we're
trying
to
achieve
right
now
is
to
make
sure
that
we
I
identify
the
support,
needs
for
hr
and
that's
why
we
are
dedicating
a
primary
role
in
that
in
that
nature,
to
hr
itself.
As
director.
G
G
A
position,
so
I
won't
belabor
the
point.
There
is
basically
someone
else
taking
over
the
hr.
Erp
needs
within
your
team,
which
makes
sense,
so
I'm
just
making
a
point
that
the
hr
discussion
that
it
was
already
done,
there's
no
need
to
have
that
person
and
they
moved
into
another
hr
position
is
actually
not
fulfilling.
The
erp
needs
that
we
need.
G
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
don't
have
a
specific
question
for
mr
alicio,
but
I
do
have
a
a
comment
and
it
is
solely
based
on
council
of
riyadiel's
points
and
it's
something
I
thought
I
mentioned
at
the
very
beginning
of
our
budget
hearings,
and
it
is
extremely
difficult
to
follow.
L
You
know
they
say
in
in
life.
Follow
the
money
well
in
this
budget.
We
need
to
follow
positions
and
there
this
is
the
first
time
I
mean
the
the
first
budget
that
I've
seen
where
we
have
no
fdes
associated
with
particular
departments,
budgets,
and
yet
it's
I
did
the
numbers
with
salary
and
benefits,
and
it's
typical
in
hr
that
it's
70
percent
of
the
budget
and
that's
where
our
money
goes.
L
So
I
will
put
it
in
an
email,
but
eventually-
and
I
know
it
takes
time,
but
it
really
shouldn't
because
we
had
a
fairly
decent
track
of
ftes
in
last
year's
budget
hearings,
and
we
didn't
really
have
it.
L
I
have
never
participated
in
a
budget
hearing
where,
where
there
was
no
employee
counts
and-
and
I'm
not
sure
why
this
is
happening
right
now
in
these
budget
hearings,
I
think
it's
wrong
and
I
and
I
think
if
they,
if
we
had
that
information,
it
would
make
understanding
of
what's
going
on,
especially
in
a
major
reorganization
and
what
it
leads
me
to
believe
and-
and
I
and
I'm
not
being
accusatory,
but
is
that
maybe
we're
not
supposed
to
know?
L
And-
and
I
I
can't
believe
that
that's
true,
but
before
these
budgeted
hearings
are
over,
it's
going
to
be
my
particular
want
and
my
particular
need
to
see
what?
Where
are
these
positions?
What
were
they
and
what
are
they
becoming?
We've
talked
a
lot
in
these
budget
hearings,
especially
like
just
tourism.
We
split
up
parks
and
rec.
We
really
don't
know
where
these
positions
are
and
where
they're
coming
from,
and
it's
very
important,
especially
because
this
is
70
percent
of
the
budget.
Mr.
D
Chair
counselor,
we
would
be
happy
to
provide
the
committee
and
all
of
council
with
that
information.
Well,.
L
And-
and
I
would
like
it
by
department
as
we
are
presenting
as
they,
these
departments
are
presented,
and
especially,
and
also
with
titles,
and
I'm
assuming
you've,
also
researched
what
the
pay
ranges
are
and
such.
So
I
think
that
that's
especially
what
I'm
interested
in
to
make
to
have
this
all
make
sense.
A
Okay,
thank
you
any
other
questions.
G
G
A
A
D
Chairman,
we
may
have
lost
connection
with
carolyn,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
continue
the
rope
or
start
the
roll
call
again.
Counselor
carol
romero
worth
yes,
councillor,
renee
villarreal,
yes,
councillor,
jamie
cassowitz
sanchez.
P
A
D
Thank
you.
One
of
our
budget
staff
lawrence
is
sharing
the
powerpoint
presentations
throughout
this
week.
So
I
wanted
to
thank
him
as
well
as
all
of
our
staff.
That
has
been
hard
at
work
in
this
multi-month
budget
process.
We're
going
to
go
through
each
of
the
divisions
really
focusing
in
on
the
changes
and
then
we'll
stand
for
questions
so
in
fyi
the
same
one,
the
same
document
or
is
there
a
new
one,
updated
that
we
need
to
be
aware
of
mr
chairman
counselor
I'll
defer
that
question
to
our
budget
staff.
B
B
G
S
S
And
missed
search,
there
was
headers
and
a
couple
of
numbers
changed
in
the
historical
data,
but
not
in
the
recommended
budget
or
the
immediate
prior
year.
D
Mr
chair
alexis
will
highlight
which
of
those
prior
years
changed
and
for
what
reason
she'll
in
her
email
to
you
so
and
carolyn.
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
I've
documented
the
vote
for
the
itt
budget
for
our
record,
so
moving.
F
D
The
accounting
well,
the
entire
finance
department
budget
decreased
by
6.9
million
or
23
percent
from
fy
20
budgeted
levels.
The
general
fund
specifically
decreased
by
1
million
or
19
from
fy
20
budgeted
levels.
If
we
move
on
to
the
first
department,
we
do
it,
which
is
accounting.
The
accounting
division
budget
for
fy
21
totals
1.3
million,
which
is
a
25
decrease
from
fy20.
D
All
categories
in
this
division
saw
a
decrease
and
the
largest
decrease
was
the
33
percent
for
salaries
and
benefits.
This
department
has
eight
positions
in
total
that
are
funded.
We
are
going
to
be
freezing
to
vacant
accounts
payable
positions.
D
Moving
on,
we
are
reducing
our
contracts
by
27
000,
we're
removing
a
contract
for
software
caseware
that
was
tied
to
our
legacy
e1
system,
and
we
will
not
be
using
that,
given
that
we've
transitioned
to
the
new
erp
system
and
we've
also
reduced
funding
for
temp
services,
moving
on
the
other
categories
and
repairs
and
supplies
has
also
been
reduced
and
the
other
operating
costs
have
also
been
reduced,
and
these
are
for
things
like
office
supplies,
repairs
and
maintenance
that
we
may
have
had
with
our
our
area.
A
G
A
A
Okay,
other
questions
regarding
accounting.
D
Mr
chair
counselors,
the
admin
division
budget
totals
a
little
under
nine
900
000.
This
is
a
51
decrease
from
fy20
levels.
The
largest
decrease
is
in
salaries
and
benefits.
A
few
positions
were
moved
for
the
it
consolidation.
We
will
provide
that
documentation
for
you
and
and
the
there
are
three
positions
in
this
division:
to
provide
the
information
that
counselor
via
rail
asked.
It
is
the
administrative
manager
as
well
as
the
finance
director
and
the
assistant
finance
director.
We
have
decided
for
fy21
to
leave
the
assistant
finance
director
position.
Vacant.
D
Contracts
decreased
by
76,
I'm
sorry
increased
by
76
000..
This
is
primarily
for
to
focus
on
training,
training,
for
grant,
writing
and
grant
management,
and
also
any
type
of
special
audits
that
we
might
see
in
the
up
the
need
for
in
the
upcoming
year.
We
will
also,
as
director
elisio
mentioned
in
the
previous
presentation,
be
continuing
with
the
upgrade
and
building
out
modules
of
our
financial
system,
in
which
we
will
need
to
make
changes
with
the
upgrade
particularly
building
out
our
chart
of
accounts,
making
any
revisions
to
continue.
D
The
streamlining
process
of
our
chart
of
accounts
supplies
increased
by
3
500.
This.
We
are
centralizing
the
supplies
in
the
administrative
division
for,
from
all
of
our
multiple
other
divisions,
to
maintain
a
greater
ability
to
pace
this
at
the
level
that
we're
spending
on
our
reduced
funding
on
supplies
over
the
course
of
the
next
fiscal
year.
D
Let's
see
insurance
increased
by
96
000.
This
is
due
to
an
increase
in
the
general
liability
for
the
city
that
is
assessed
out
to
all
departments.
Other
operating
costs
decreased
by
717
000,
that
is
primarily
a
decrease
in
services
to
other
departments.
Those
assessments
that
are
charged
out
to
each
department
there's
also
a
decrease
here
in
travel
and
conference
registration.
D
You
know
we're
going
to
be
focusing
our
contracts,
more
specifically
on
opportunities
for
us
to
have
online
training
via
zoom,
so
to
continue
the
training
that
we
have
provided
for
staff
in
the
past.
Let's
see
our
capital
outlay
decreased
in
this
area
by
23
000.,
that's
for
furniture
very
similar
to
nancy
jimenez.
Yesterday
that
explained
we
have
ordered
furniture
in
the
past,
so
that
was
a
one-time
cost.
We
won't
need
it
in
in
the
future.
I
stand
for
questions.
C
So
just
going
back
to
the
con
contractuals
and
utilities
recommended
fy
2130
000
and
that's
all
going
for
audits.
D
A
portion
of
it
well,
a
portion
will
go
for
training,
training
to
continue
training
for
our
staff,
continued
our
new
training
on
grants,
management
and
grant
writing.
We
do
understand
that,
as
the
city
is
seeing
our
tax
revenue
base
eroded
through
through
decreased
economic
activity,
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
increase
our
grant
writing
and
apply
for
additional
grants
from
the
you
know,
federal
government
or
private
grants.
D
So
I
and
further
down
in
the
presentation,
I
will
review
with
you
the
creation
of
a
centralized
grants,
management
function
within
the
finance
department
and
the
purpose
of
that.
C
So
I
guess
yeah,
so
I
guess
the
thing
I'm
more
interested
in
is
the
audits
and
the
audit
committee,
which
is
no
longer
meeting
under
this
situation,
we're
in
with
the
public
health
crisis,
and
they
had,
I
think,
a
number
of
audits
that
they
were
working
with
you
on
just
curious
did.
Where
is
that
work?
Did
it?
Is
it
all
completed?
And-
and
this
would
fund
new
rounds
of
audits
or
continue
them
or.
D
Where,
where
are
we
in
all
of
that
miss
mr
chair
counselor?
We
redw
was
the
selected
internal
auditor
for
fy
20..
They
have
completed
their
fy
20
audit
and
are
waiting
to
present
to
the
audit
committee
when
we
resume
the
meetings.
D
I
think
we
all
realize
at
this
point
that
when
we
resume
we're
going
to
be
resuming
via
an
electronic
forum
via
zoom,
so
that
is
what
that
will
likely
happen
in
the
next
few
months,
and
this
is
specifically
for
any
reconciliation
or
any
additional
areas
that
we
would
want
to
look
into
outside
of
the
internal
audit.
D
You
know
there's
still
areas
for
improvement
as
we
go
forward
and
we
wanted
to
reserve
about
20
000
to
be
able
to
look
into
any
any
issues
that
arose
throughout
the
fiscal
year,
so
that
work
is
continuing
then,
because
the
internal
audit
you
speak
of
is
the
one
we
do
every
year
right,
mr
chairman
counselor.
Yes,
that
is
correct
and
that
funding
is
actually
in
the
general
government
department.
D
C
D
Mr
chair
counselors,
the
fy
21
budget
division
budget
totals
13
million
to
27
decrease
levels
below
10
percent
in
salaries
and
benefits.
Right
now
there
are
three
filled
positions:
the
budget
officer
and
two
budget
analysts.
We
will
be
leaving
one
freezing
one
vacant
budget
analyst
position
for
the
remainder
of
fy21.
D
That's
you
know
in
a
very
small
department
in
a
year
where
there
is
a
lot
of
budget
activity
where
we've
just
had
a
six-month
budget
process,
it
really
is
a
big
hit
to
take,
but
and
that's
about
a
25
vacancy
that
this
department
will
have
by
leaving
just
that
one
person
that
one
position
vacant.
D
So
as
we
move
forward
into
the
other
categories,
we
can
see
that
we've
moved
50
000
in
software
funding
in
from
supplies
into
contracts.
So
the
software
was
open,
gov
that
we
are
no
longer
utilizing
and
the
contract
we
will
use
in
the
fy
fiscal
year.
21
will
be
to
assist
with
the
build
out
of
the
new
budget
module
system.
D
Currently,
the
budgets
that
are
presented
for
you
are
built
out
in
excel
by
the
budget
division
and
then
shared
with
our
department
staff
and
then
then
uploaded
into
munis,
so
by
building
out
the
budget
module
in
munis
the
reports
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
the
will
be
automatically
generated
from
our
immunist
system
right
now.
We,
our
staff,
has
to
build
a
budget
upload
a
table
to
then
take
the
all
the
budget,
information
from
excel
and
access
and
upload
it
into
our
munis
system.
So
by
building
out
our
budget
and
munis.
D
That
process
will
be
automated
and
much
more
seamless.
So
we're
really
looking
forward
to
that.
For
this
year,
our
supplies
again
are
decreasing,
they'll
be
purchased
centrally
out
of
the
admin
division,
the
other
operating
cost
decreases
are
in
dues
and
travel
and
centralization
of
training
in
the
admin
division.
D
Mr
chairman,
yes,
that
is
correct.
There
are
two
positions.
If
I
can
clarify,
there
are
two
positions
that
are
funded
out
of
the
general
fund,
which
is
the
table
at
the
top.
Then
there
is
one
position
that
is
funded
out
of
you
can
see
the
salaried
line
item
out
of
the
half
percent
grt
income
fund
in
the
second
piece
of
that
table.
D
D
Yes,
this
is
primarily
for
debt
service.
As
I
mentioned,
there
is
one
position
in
budget
that
is
charged
to
this
fund,
and
primarily,
the
focus
of
this
is
on
debt,
service
and
capital.
This
fund.
D
So
we
are
are
currently
presenting
your
operating
budget
and
very
shortly
we
will
be
bringing
forward
the
capital
budget
and
the
2020
grt
bond
issuance,
and
so
all
the
work
that
our
staff
will
folk.
Our
budget
staff
will
focus
on
for
the
next
few
months,
we'll
really
switch
from
our
operating
budget
to
the
capital
budget
so
and
building
out
the
package
working
with
our
municipal
advisor
and
our
financial
advisor
to
be
able
to
support
our
2020
grt
bond
package
that
we'll
be
bringing
forward
to
you.
D
So
that's
the
type
of
capital
work,
there's
also
ongoing
capital
projects
that
were
funded
with
the
2018
grt
bond
that
they
continue
to
monitor
and
track
and
will
be
pulling
forward
those
budgets.
Those
are
multi-year
budgets.
You
know
into
the
new
fiscal
year,
there's
also
capital-
that's
funded
from
the
state,
for
example
the
airport
project,
that
our
multi-year
projects
that
the
staff
focuses
on.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
any
other
questions
regarding
this
grt
income
fund,
councilwoman
sanchez.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
maybe
I
I
missed
something
but
mary.
Could
you
help
me
understand
when
I'm
looking
at
this
first
line
of
the
chart,
the
fy20
base,
186
fy20,
recommended
140
dollar
change,
326
and
then
a
a
negative
175
change,
I'm
having
a
hard
time
with
the
math
there
and
where
the
parentheses
are.
What
am
I
missing.
S
That
was
a
function
of
a
correction
that
was
made
it's
you
know.
If
I
was
talking
about
accounting.
I'd
say
it
was
an
adjusting
entry.
There
were
some
hiccups
when
we
moved
from
e1
into
munis,
and
this
is
one
of
the
areas
where
the
contra
accounts
came
over
incorrectly,
so
we
had
to
do
a
negative
entry
to
correct
it.
D
And
I
failed
to
mention
the
very
large
decrease
that
4.9
million
dollar
decrease
in
the
half
a
half
percent
grt
income
fund.
These
those
transfers
out
are
primarily
for
two
debt
service
funds,
so
there
were
some
non-recurring
transfers
in
the
half
percent
grt,
factored
in
in
fy20
that
are
not
there
in
fy21,
since
they
were
one-time
transfers.
D
So
the
fleet
management
division
manages
not
all
fleet
operations
across
the
city,
but
many
fleet
operations
across
the
city,
their
fy
21
budget,
totals
1.4
million,
which
is
about
a
10
decrease
from
fy20.
There
is
no
vacancy
credit
taken
in
fy21
very
similar
to
our
other
departments.
D
There
are
two
positions
that
are
vacant
in
this
division
and
we're
very,
very
proud
and
happy
to
say
that
this
is
the
most
fully
staffed
that
we've
ever
been
in
the
in
the
last
two
years,
at
least
since
I've
been
here
in
the
fleet
division,
there
are
11
filled
positions.
D
One
of
them
is
our
fleet
section
manager,
daniel
garcia
who's
with
us
today,
and
as
well
as
our
mechanics,
our
mechanics
supervisor
and
an
administrative
manager
as
well
so
again,
very
happy
that
we're
so
fully
staffed
in
that
particular
division.
D
So
we
do
see
decreases
in
all
the
categories
here:
there's
a
six
percent
decrease
in
salaries
and
benefits
again
we're
going
to
have
no
vacancy
credit
and
two
vacant
positions.
There's
a
forty
thousand
dollar
decrease
in
repairs
and
maintenance.
This
is
in
line
with
prior
year
actuals.
There
was
some
roof
repairs
and
vehicle
repairs
and
that
we're
expecting
to
see
a
decrease
in
as
we
sell
off
some
of
our
fleet
that
has
been
aging,
I'm
very
proud
of
this
division.
D
They
completed
a
fleet
inventory
for
the
entire
city
to
be
in
line
with
our
year-end
closed
process.
That
was
extremely
labor-some
process.
They
photographed
all
of
the
vehicles.
They,
you
know
recorded
mileage
the
vin
number
and
had
to
work
with
departments
all
across
the
city
to
complete
that.
So
it
was
very
happy
that
they
did
that
so
successfully.
D
A
Okay,
grants
management.
D
Yes,
so
this
is
one
of
the
highlights
of
our
fy
21
budget.
For
this
year
we
are
creating
a
five
person.
Five
position
grants
management
division.
The
responsibilities
of
this
division,
as
you
can
read
in
the
description
in
front
of
you,
is
primarily
for
the
grant,
accounting
and
financial
analysis
that
has
to
happen
for
our
significant
grants
and
researching
funding
opportunities
and
preparing
grant
applications
to
and
implementing
grant
operations
in
the
new
upgraded
munis
system.
So
this
is
an
opportunity
for
the
city
to
centralize.
D
These
grant
management
functions
within
finance
and,
if
you
recall,
in
the
admin
division
budget,
we
did
set
aside
funding
in
our
contracts
for
training
both
in
grants,
accounting
grants
management,
as
well
as
grant
writing
for
these
positions.
This
is
our
goal
to
have
a
very
robust,
focused
group
in
the
city
that
handles
grant
accounting
and
grant
writing.
D
So
the
609
thousand
dollars
that
you
see
in
front
of
you
today
is
the
salaries
and
benefits
for
those
five
positions
and
two.
So
three
positions
are
internal
finance,
department
positions
and
two
of
the
positions
that
we,
as
we
have
discussed
earlier,
are
being
transferred
from
the
public
works
division.
D
G
Just
can
you
clarify
a
little
bit
more?
You
said
five
positions,
but
two
came
from
public
works,
one
was
keith
wilson's
position
and
the
other
one
is
a
grants,
administrator
position,
which
was
what
they
were
doing
in
public
works,
but
correct
they'll
be
doing
it
in
your
department
beyond
just
public
works
contracts
or.
D
Mr
chair
counselor,
via
real,
the
primary
focus,
will
still
be
on
public
works,
but
there
may
be
other
duties
as
we
reassess
the
workflow
and
the
operations.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
So
the
idea
here
is
grants.
I
mean
we'll
be
looking
for
grants
that
could
be
applied
for
to
affect
operations
across
the
city.
Is
that
correct?
Mr
chair
counselor?
Yes,
that
is
correct
and
and
some
of
this
work
I
mean
we
already
get
grants
and
have
to
you
know,
do
the
compliance
and
I
mean
not
only
apply
for
it,
but
then
you
know
administer
them
essentially
and
that's
that
will
be
the
focus
of
this
department.
D
C
And
do
you
see,
do
you
see
us
being
able
to
recoup
any
of
these
salaries
through
these
grants?
I
think
sometimes
grants
allow
you
to
do
that,
but.
D
Just
mr
chair
counselor,
yes,
that
is
absolutely
our
intention
in
this
initial
stage.
We
are
funding
these
positions,
these
five
positions
with
general
fund,
and
we
will
be
as
we
move
forward.
D
We
will
be
looking
to
start
charging
these
positions
as
soon
as
we
can
to
the
to
grant
either
new
grants
that
we're
getting
or
the
admin
you
know
the
admin
portion
we're
usually
allowed
a
certain
percentage
of
indirect
funding
as
part
of
our
grants
for
administrative
costs,
in
which
a
portion
of
these
salaries
or
may
potentially,
maybe
even
the
full
salary
could
be
charged
against
the
grant.
D
So
and
our
goal
again
is
you
know
to
bring
in
well
more
than
the
600
000
in
salaries
and
benefits
and
to
be
able
to
ensure
that
the
entire
life
cycle
you
know
stated
in
in
the
mission
statement
from
you
know:
pre.
You
know
the
application
pre-award
seen
through
the
on-site
visits.
You
know
from
the
feds.
D
C
Any
sense,
I
would
think
that
lots
of
cities
have
this
kind
of
a
division
or
focus,
and,
and
so
this
really
is
in
some
senses,
a
modernization
may
be
forced
on
on
us.
Given
the
financial
crisis,
we're
in
and
having
to
think
differently
about
things.
D
Mr
chair
counselor,
yes,
that
is
correct.
I'm
in
every
other
city
that
I've
worked
in,
we
have
had
a
primary
focus
on
grants,
grant
writing
and
grant
management.
There
is
an
extreme
niche
for
grant
accounting.
You
know
there
are
several.
You
know
we
need
to
be
in
compliance
with
state
laws,
federal
laws,
federal
rules
for
each
grant.
D
As
you
know,
if
you're
dealing
with
an
faa
grant,
it's
completely
different
than
an
fta,
grant
it's
completely
different
than
the
hud
grants,
so
to
be
fully
versed
in
each
one
of
those
areas
and
the
requirements
from
each
one
of
those
federal
agencies
is
extremely
important.
It's
extremely
detailed
work!
That's
why
we're
committed
again
in
the
admin
budget
to
providing
a
significant
amount
of
training
to
these
positions.
D
These
are
again,
as
you
mentioned,
an
effort
to
have
the
modernization
to
really
bring
us
forward
and
to
really
bring
in
a
significant
amount
of
funding
that
would
exceed
the
600
000
in
general
fund
that
we
were
allocating
this
year.
C
And
this
is
really
you
know,
money
that
we,
we
maybe
haven't
been
taking
advantage
of
to
the
greatest
extent
possibly
possible
to
really
help
with
with
the
running
of
the
city
with
providing
the
services
that
that
we
should
be
providing
as
a
city
mr
chair
counselor.
Yes,
that
is
correct,
and
I
just
you
know
one
question,
I'm
just
why
five
I
mean
why
not
two,
why
not
and
why?
Why
is
five?
The
sweet
spot.
D
So
we
have
several
primary
grants
that
we
already
manage
so
transit
airport
senior
cdbg
that
again
take
a
significant
amount
of
time
to
be
able
to
to
support.
We
will
also
be
receiving
additional
cares
act.
Funding
from
you
know,
once
we
apply
to
the
state
we're
actually
hoping
that
the
cares
act.
Money
itself,
as
you
mentioned
earlier,
will
be
able
to
pay
for
a
grant's
position
to
be
solely
dedicated
on
spending
and
tracking.
D
The
cares
act,
funding
that
we
will
be
applying
for
at
the
state.
C
Great
so
I
mean
it
just
seems
like
this:
is
money
well
spent,
because,
because
of
our
ability
to
leverage
it
and
potentially
be
reimbursed
for
this
kind
of
money
that
we're
quote-unquote
fronting
to
get
this,
this
department
or
this
office
established
mr
chair
counselor?
Yes,
that
is
correct
great.
Thank
you.
Thank.
F
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair,
so
I'm
curious
about
some
of
our
other
departments
that
are
currently
engaged
in
grant
work
or
have
written
grants
and
how
the
interaction
is
going
to
be
between
these
new
grant
departments-
and
I
know
parks
recently
came
to
us
with
approval
for
a
grant
a
couple
months
ago,
as
well
as
community
services,
frequently
looks
for
grants
one.
How
will
the
coordination
work
and
two
is
this
going
to
expand
all
of
these
departments
opportunities
to
really
be
looking
for
applying
and
managing
grants?
D
Mr
chair
counselor,
this
these
five
positions
will
really
be
a
support
for
all
of
our
departments
throughout
the
city,
and
you
mentioned
the
parks
example.
So
to
use
that
example,
parks
staff
is
the
experts.
They
are
the
subject
matter
experts,
so
they
would
be
working
in
coordination
with
any
one
of
these
five
positions
to
go
through
the
application
process
to
be
able
to.
D
So
really
they,
these
five
people
will
be
the
support
system
making
sure
we
are
in
compliance
with
the
rules
and
regulations
that
we
have
to
adhere
to.
We
again,
we
understand
that
an
example
of
park
staff.
They
have
their
own
full-time
jobs
right.
They
are
the
subject
matter,
experts
they
may
know
of
a
particular
grant
opportunity,
but
we're
here
to
provide
that
technical
support
for
them.
F
Yeah,
that's
that's
really
wonderful
to
hear,
because
it
is
I.
I
know
that
I've
spoken
with
other
people
about
the
I
think,
specifically
in
community
services.
They
already
do
a
lot
of
work
with
with
grants
and
that
there
is
the
desire
to
do
more
and
having
that
capacity
so
along.
The
same
vein
is
what
council
romeroworth
was
saying
is
that
this
really
feels
like
a
very
good
investment
for
our
city,
more
so
than
just
an
expenditure,
I'm
feeling
very
excited
about
the
development
of
this
department.
F
I
know
in
other
cities
and
counties
that
I
have
interacted
with
from
the
other
side,
from
being
the
person
getting
grants
that
I
frequently
see
this
in
in
other
municipalities.
So
I'm
very
pleased
to
see
us
stepping
up
here,
and
I
really
hope
that
this
will
increase
the
capacity
across
our
departments
to
start
creatively
looking
for
those
grants
and
and
also
providing
that
opportunity
to
try
something
new
programmatically
that
we
may
not
have
had
the
financing
to
have.
A
L
D
Mr
chair
counselors,
we
plan
on
supporting
every
department
and
that
would
include
police
as
well.
Yes,.
L
So
you
won't
really
well.
Well,
maybe
I'm
misunderstanding,
you
won't
be
writing
grants
or
applying
for
grants,
or
will
they
keep
their
person
who
writes
grants
or
do
they
even
have
a
person?
I
don't
know.
D
Mr
chair
counselors,
I
think
many
of
our
staff
across
the
city
are
serving
in
positions
where
they're
jack
of
all
trades
right.
They
could
be
applying
for
grants
as
well
as
running
a
program.
So
as
I
as
we
are
developing
this
program,
we
are
the
technical
support
and
we
can
assist
in
writing
if
someone
does
not
have
that
particular
capacity.
D
So
we
can
we're
more
than
happy
to
assist
in
the
grant.
Writing
it's
really
the
entire
light.
If
you
think
of
you
know,
the
grant
process
is
the
life
cycle
from
the
initial
writing
of
the
grant
to
the
pre
all
the
documentation
that
you
have
to
submit
in
the
pre-award
process
through
making
sure
that
we
have
all
of
the
documents
in
place
to
submit
for
reimbursement
and
that
we're
actually
drawing
down
on
our
federal
reimbursement.
D
You
know
all
of
the
details.
That's
involved
in
that
is
very
time
consuming
and
very
detail-oriented
right.
We're
going
to
be
planning
on
creating
a
centralized
grants,
file
repository,
so
we
have
the
files
and
electronic
copy,
as
well
as
in
hard
copy,
there's
also
federal
monitoring
visits,
so
you
know
where,
for
example,
doj
can
come
on
site
and
then
they
can
monitor.
D
You
know
the
expenditures
of
the
the
particular
grant
that
the
city
of
santa
fe
was
awarded,
and
so
all
of
that
is
again
very
time
consuming,
and
we
understand
that
staff
in
the
departments
have
been
assuming
these
responsibilities
for
a
long
time
and
our
opportunity
would
be
to
be
able
to
provide
support
throughout
that
process
as
much
or
as
little
as
needed.
I
think
you
know
we
spoke
about
one
of
the
positions
that's
coming
over
from
public
works.
Is
the
grants
administrator?
That's
you
know
primarily
been
his
function
is
to
support.
D
You
know
many.
You
know
divisions.
I
know
when
the
library
division
was
applying
earlier
this
year
for
a
grant.
He
was
there
to
assist
them.
You
know
again,
it's
it's
all
the
small
details.
It's
making
sure
the
accounts
are
set
up
in
grants.gov
and
the
federal
system
making
sure
all
of
the
the
documentation
is
appropriately
accounted
for,
and
you
know
I
think,
there's
been
a
successful
model
with
the
grants
administrator
and
the
work
that
he's
done
in
public
works.
So
we're
really
looking
to
magnify
that
across
and
support
all
city
departments.
R
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair
counselors,
and
this
payroll
division
is
actually
pretty
small.
There
are
three
funded
positions,
only
three
positions
in
total
for
our
the
size
of
city
that
we
have
so
because
we
are
fully
funding
all
three
positions,
the
and
with
no
vacancy
credit
being
taken.
This
budget
is
actually
increasing
from
276
000
to
354
000..
D
This
does
include
45
000
for
contracts
to
support
payroll.
You
know,
as
you
know,
at
different
times
in
the
payroll
cycle,
there's
different
reporting
requirements.
We
have
to
manage
the
w-2
process.
D
You
know
the
the
para
reporting
I'm
happy
to
report
that
all
of
the
para
contributions
have
been
made
to
pera,
so
we're
all
caught
up.
I
know
that
was
an
issue
that
was
raised
in
the
last
few
weeks,
thanks
in
large
part
to
our
stellar
staff
and
payroll.
They
were
able
to
build
out
some
reports
that
we
needed
to
be
in
compliance
with
pera
and
to
catch
us
up
on
all
of
our
contributions,
so
that
will
no
longer
be
an
issue.
D
Those
are
the
types
of
activities
that
it
contracting
for
it
supports
can
assist
us
with.
Also,
you
know
on-call
to
assist
us
with
processing
the
bi-weekly
payroll,
as
we
move
forward.
A
Okay,
councilwoman
v
hill
coupler,
you
have
your
hand
up
still.
Did
you
have
a
question
regarding
payroll.
L
D
Yes,
mr
chair
counselors,
as
we
transition
to
the
new
payroll,
the
new
hcm
and
payroll
system
in
april,
that
was
the
first
pay
period
where
we
started
to
encounter
problems,
and
so
since
then
we
have
been,
we
needed
to
develop
reports
and
needed
to
correct
several
outstanding
errors.
And
so
again,
we've
had
a
new
position
in
a
new
person
in
payroll
that
has
been
learning
these
responsibilities
and
has
done
an
excellent
job
in
being
able
to
comply
with
the
para
reporting
and
catch
us
up
in
those
in
that
area.
L
So
I
I
learned,
I
guess
when,
when
this
happened,
that
the
new,
the
payroll
officer,
that
we
just
hired
from
the
state
no
longer
works
for
the
city,
I
believe-
and
so
I
kind
of
chalked
this
up
to.
Maybe
it
was
a
transition
of
you-
know,
training
and
learning
the
payroll
system
or
something
I'm
really.
I'm
really
not
sure,
but
it
would
be
hard
for
me
to
believe
that
the
former
payroll
officer
who
was
very
experienced
would
have
you
know,
omitted
these
these
collections
to
be
deposited,
but
I
just
want
to
understand
it.
L
I
I
certainly
know
wasn't
anything
intentional,
but
it
was
problematic.
I
think,
and
not
transparent,
that
the
employees
didn't
know
that
this
wasn't
happening,
and
you
know
I.
I
hope
that
there
are
safeguards
so
that
in
the
future
this
doesn't
happen,
because
I
I
also
heard
from
employees
that
it
on
at
the
same
time
their
collections
for
for
the
deferred
comp
weren't
submitted
either,
and
so
there
was
there
could
have
been
a
loss
in
in
their
investments
or
chances
are
there
there
probably
could
have
over
that
spread
of
time.
D
Mr
chair
counselor,
I
did
receive
confirmation
from
our
payroll
staff
that
this
has
been.
We
have
been
invoiced
and
payment
has
been
made
for
our
para
contributions.
So,
yes,
this
is.
This
has
been
resolved
again,
we're
very
grateful
to
para
and
paris
staff
for
assisting
us
through
as
well
on
this
transition
into
our
new
financial
system,
which
is
primarily
the
you
know,
main
reason
for
these
delays.
D
In
addition,
you
know
to
that
they
were
able
to
waive
our
any
fees
or
penalties
that
would
have
been
associated
with
the
late
payments
so
again,
very
grateful
to
our
to
the
pera
as
a
state
agency
for
being
such
a
great
partner
with
us
over
these
last
few
months
and
again,
really
I'm
proud
of
our
new
staff
person
who
who's
the
payroll
specialist.
D
That
has
you
know,
come
in
brand
new
to
the
city
and
been
able
to
learn
a
new
system
and
not
just
the
muni
system,
but
also
the
para
system,
and
be
able
to
really
be
successful
in
working
with
our
it
partners
to
catch
us
up
and
make
sure
that
we're
current
so.
D
Mr
chair
counselor,
let
me
confirm
that,
and
I
will
get
back
to
you.
I
believe
they
were,
but
I
will
double
check.
L
I
hope
so
and
and
also
we
heard
from
many
of
I
think
many
counselors
probably
got
the
same
email
that
scheduled
garnishments
and
such
were
also
part
of
it,
so
you
might
want
to
check
on
that
as
well
and
any
other
payroll
items
that
are
that
go
through
there's.
I
know
I
realize
there's
many
many
things
that
go
through
payroll.
I
too
want
to
express
gratitude
to
pera,
for
you
know,
working
with
us
and
saving
us
some
money
and
fees.
L
I
just
you
know
I
just
want
to
to
be
sure
that
number
one
I
know
mistakes
happen,
number
two,
that
when
mistakes
happen
that
affect
employees,
that
they're
they're
notified-
and
I
think
people
handle
things
better
without
surprises,
but
I
I
I
do
appreciate
your
office
taking
steps
to
get
this
all
accomplished
and
and
every
the
money's
going
where
they're
supposed
to
go,
and
also
just
setting
things
in
motion
where
this
cannot
happen
again.
Somehow,
so
I
appreciate
your
efforts.
Thank
you.
R
A
You,
okay,
so
mary
purchasing.
D
Mr
chair,
continuing
on
with
the
purchasing
division,
the
budget
for
this
division
totals
four
hundred
and
twenty
four
thousand,
which
is
a
two
percent
decrease
from
the
fy
20
level.
Here
we
are
fully
funding
all
three
positions
that
are
funded
out
of
the
general
fund.
This
is
extremely
important
for
us.
You
know,
as
we
have
discussed
previously,
procurement
is
a
very
important
has
a
very
important
role
for
the
city.
D
The
fy
21
risk
management
division
budget
totals
4.9
million.
This
is
a
20
decrease
from
the
fy
20
levels,
for
as
we
move
forward
into
the
risk
discussion
of
the
risk
division,
as
well
as
the
treasury
division,
the
salary
for
our
planning
and
investment
officer
who
manages
the
risk
division,
half
of
his
salary
will
be
paid
out
of
the
risk
fund
and
the
other
half
will
be
paid
out
of
the
general
fund,
but
in
the
treasury
division,
and
so
that
is
the
increase
that
you
see
in
salaries.
G
D
Oh,
I
apologize
mr
mr
chair
counselor
via
real.
I
did
not
mention.
There's
1.5.
We
have
one
risk
analyst
position
that
works
in
conjunction
with
our
planning
and
investment
officer,
who
manages
this
division.
D
G
Right
now
got
it,
but
that
changed
because
it
initially
everything
came
from.
D
Mr
chair,
I'm
gonna
allow
brad
flitch
to
go
into
a
bit
of
detail
on
the
risk
budget.
O
Mr
chairman,
thank
you
counselor,
the
75
000
is
a
reduction.
Typically,
we
have
been
budgeting
125
000
for
the
city
attorney
for
various
expenses
they
may
have
that
would
be
covered
by
risk
this
year
they
didn't
spend
any
of
it.
Last
year
we
cut
their
125
000
budget
by
75
000
and
they
still
have
50
000
in
that
the
other
5
000
is
a
actuary
actuarial
contract
that
we
are
required
to
produce
annually.
O
What's
that,
I
don't
know
exactly
which
what
it
is.
I
will
get
back
to
you
with
that
information.
O
Oh,
that's
correct,
as
you
know
that
the
risk
management
fund
is
assessed
to
all
of
the
other
departments.
It
covers
risk
or
insurance
premiums
and
general
liability
claims
and
and
property
damage.
So
we
assess
our
entire
expenses
out
to
the
other
departments.
D
And
mr
chair
counselor
being
able
to
reduce
down
closer
to
actual
expenditures,
then,
essentially,
what
that
did?
Is
it
lowered
other
department's
assessments
in
the
amount
that
they
would
have
to
pay?
So
this
was
another
area
of
right
sizing
to
make
sure
we
are
actually
charging
for
the
cost
that
we
are
incurring.
O
G
O
Correct
and
so
I
can
get
back
to
you
with
where
it
went
or
which
two
funds
that
were
consolidated.
Q
Mr,
I
can
give
you
that
information
right
now
the
the
assessment
from
risk
management
used
to
cover
two
things:
basically,
the
operations
of
the
risk
management
division
or
this
fund,
which
includes
employees
and
insurance
costs
and
overhead
costs,
but
it
also
included
an
assessment
of
the
prior
year's
insurance
claims.
Q
Q
So
that's
why
there
was
a
transfer
between
them,
because
part
of
that
assessment
for
risk
management
was
for
claims.
Now
in
the
reorganization
for
munis,
where
we
vastly
reduce
the
number
of
funds.
Now
both
of
those
functions
are
in
the
same
fund,
so
a
transfer
is
no
longer
necessary
because
the
money
is
already
in
the
fund.
O
Okay,
mr
chairman
and
counselor
via
real,
I
have
an
amazing
staff,
and
so
they
quickly
sent
me
that
the
contract-
this
is
for
glickman
consulting
the
five
thousand
dollars
for
the
actual
actuarial
report.
G
O
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
This
is
our
last
division
for
finance.
The
treasury
divisions
total
fy21
budget
is
just
under
500
000.,
we're
going
to
experience,
146,
000
or
23
decrease
in
fy
21
from
fy
20
levels.
The
primary
changes
are
in
salaries
and
benefits
and
to
provide
the
information
that
counselor
via
real
requested.
D
We
have
four
positions
that
are
funded
in
this
depart
in
this
division
currently
for
fy21,
which
leaves,
I
believe,
four
positions
that
are
vacant
so
and
we'll
be
vacant
for
the
remainder
of
the
year.
The
other
primary
adjustments
are
really
in
other
operating
costs.
Again,
this
is
supplies.
This
is
travel
training
that
type
of
expenses
that
have
been
centralized
in
the
administrative
either
reduced
completely
like
travel
or
training
opportunities
which
are
centralized
in
the
admin
division.
D
Mr
chair
counselor,
yes,
you
are
correct,
the
treasury
officer,
responsibility
position
has
been
vacant
and
we
were
just
about
to
hire
for
the
you
know,
advertise
and
hire
for
the
position.
You
know
back
in
march
when
we
had
to
and
in
april
when
we
had
to
be
under
the
hiring
freeze.
D
So
when
this,
mr
chairman,
counselor,
when
this
position
originally
became
vacant
through
attrition
last
fall,
I
asked
our
controller
clayton
pelletier
to
assume
these
responsibilities.
So
he's
been
filling
in
those
responsibilities
since
then,
and
it
is
clayton-
is
an
extremely
well-valued,
a
member
of
our
team.
He
has
many
decades
of
experience
both
in
the
private
sector
and
in
the
public
sector,
in
mainly
in
the
accounting
world
and
in
our
controller
world.
D
So
it's
our
we're
looking
at
the
opportunity
to
transition
him
back
into
the
accounting
division
now
in
fy21
to
be
able
to
assist
the
day-to-day
operations,
and
then
I
have
will
be
asking
brad
flitch,
as
the
planning
and
investment
officer
to
assume
the
responsibilities
for
the
treasury
division.
G
D
Mr
chair
counselor
clayton,
as
when
the
position
became
vacant
in
the
fall,
we
asked
our
controller
to
transition
into
the
the
treasury
officer
position
and
deborah
harris
garmadia
has
assumed
both
the
role
of
controller
and
accounting
officer,
so
that
that
is
she's
been
pulling
double
duty
in
the
accounting
division.
Again,
it
is
extremely
important
for
us
to
have
as
much
support
and
in
our
accounting
division
and
really
we
have
two
experts
in
their
fields
with
deborah
and
with
clayton
to
to
be
leading
the
accounting
division.
So
we're
that's.
D
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
I'm
not
sure
which
division
is
the
appropriate
place
to
ask
this
question
but
mary.
What
is
what
is
the
focus
now
on
internal
auditing
and
where
does
that
fit?
L
D
Mr
chair
counselor,
vihil
koppler,
internal
auditing,
is
actually
budgeted.
You
are
correct.
It
is
conducted
by
a
third
party.
Redw
was
the
selected
vendor
for
fy20.
They
have
completed
an
internal
audit
and
are
waiting
for
to
present
the
internal
audit
to
the
audit
committee,
as
well
as
to
the
finance
committee.
In
the
next
few
months.
We
did
have
a
pause
in
meetings
with
the
audit
committee
when
covid
hit,
and
so
we
are
planning
to
resume
those
regular
meetings
in
the
next
few
months
that
but
again
to
answer
your
question.
D
The
internal
audit
is
a
third
party
contract
and
the
budget
for
that
is
in
the
general
government
department
which
you
will
be
reviewing
on
friday.
L
D
Mr
chair
counselor,
yes,
we
can
make
the
report
available
to
all
counselors.
Of
course,.
L
Okay,
thank
you,
so
I
I
wanted
to
share.
I
know
that
you
just
mentioned
you
know
some
some
employees
in
your
division
in
your
department,
doing
double
duty
and
such
I
had
an
occasion
through
my
role
as
a
as
through
bdd,
to
have
a
conversation
with
an
external
auditor,
and
one
of
the
big
concerns
he
shared
was
that
there
wasn't
he
in
his
perception.
There
wasn't
enough
staffing
in.
L
I
guess
deborah
harris,
garmadia's
role
and
I
won't
be
specific,
but
it
was
very
troubling
and
one
of
the
the
questions
he
had
is
why
can't
there
be
more
help
in
there
because
it
it's
like
a
spiderweb
and
it
has
affected.
I
think
a
lot
of
the
things
that
the
city
does,
but
he
was
extremely
concerned
about
the
low
staffing
and
in
fact,
in
fact,
felt
very
sorry
for
deborah.
L
L
So
I
just
want
to
hear
what
your
take
is
on
this
and
I'm
not
sure
that's
the
last
we've
heard
of
of
this,
but
I
I
just
want
to
know
where
you're
at
I'm
sure
you
know
and-
and
I
want
to
know
what
your
remedy
is,
how
will
you
resolve
this.
D
D
You
know
you've
been
able
to
get
a
picture
of
our
vacancy
rate
and
how
all
of
our
staff,
in
all
of
our
divisions,
really
does
go
above
and
beyond,
to
be
able
to
fulfill
their
roles
and
their
responsibilities
again.
Post
mccard,
post
mccard
reports
across
all
of
our
finance
divisions.
There
has
been
an
emphasis
on
training
and
an
emphasis
on
you
know:
additional
support
for
all
of
our
staff,
so
particularly
within
the
accounting
division
in
their
contracts
section
they
have.
D
They
hold
the
contract
for
our
external
auditor,
as
well
as
a
contract
for
additional
cpa
support.
So
those
contractors
are
on
site
and
they
are
working
side
by
side
with
our
staff
in
the
accounting
division
to
be
able
to
handle
reconciliations
and
support,
not
just
our
accounting
division
staff,
but
reconciliations
and
billings,
for
example,
throughout
the
the
city's
financial
structure.
So
we're.
You
know
again
very
grateful
to
have
this
additional
level
of
support,
as
they
are
sitting
side
by
side
with
our
staff.
D
There
is
also
they
are
experts
in
their
field
and
very
high
level
staff,
so
we
are
able
to
have
training
and
knowledge
transfer
as
well
to
continue
to
build
up
our
staff
internally.
So
it's
really
a
combination
of
additional
training,
supporting
our
staff
and
then
having
these
contractors
to
be
able
to
assist
us
as
we're
moving
forward
and
trying
to
clear
up
audit
findings
and
really
being
able
to
continue
the
progress
that
has
been
made
over
the
last
few
years.
L
D
All
mr
chairman,
counselor,
one
other
item
that
I
forgot
to
mention
is
that
I
had
you
know
discussed
that
we
are
going
to
be
moving
clayton
pelletier
back
into
the
controller
position
to
provide
that
additional
support
when
he
first
assumed
the
treasury
officer
responsibilities.
That
was
to
be
a
temporary.
You
know
in
nature,
but
then
we
got
hit
by
covid
and
the
hiring
freeze.
So
that
will
be
an
additional
fte
support
and
he
is
a
cpa.
D
So
I'm
very
appreciative
and
grateful
for
his
expertise
to
the
accounting
division
across
the
city.
You
know,
I
think
it
is.
It
varies
in
terms
of
the
reconciliations.
For
example,
I
know
we've
been
discussing
bdd,
our
staff
did
reach
out
to
bdd
staff
and
the
billings
ended
back
in
december
for
bdd,
so
we
have.
D
The
city
has
not
been
billed
since
december
for
bdd,
so
those
are
the
types
of
that's
the
type
of
checklist
that
we
have,
that
we
have
to
go
through
to
make
sure
that
we
are
caught
up.
We
are
in
the
process
of
year
end
close
currently,
so
we
are
closing
out
fiscal
year
20.
We
have
a
few
more
days
and
about
another
week
or
so
to
be
able
to
get
in
all
of
our
invoices,
so
they're
all
paid,
and
then
we
can
really
start
in
earnest
with
our
year-end
close
process.
L
Well,
I
just
want
to
make
clear
that
you
know
the
discussion
I
did
have
with
the
external
auditor.
Bdd
was
as
as
far
as
they
could
get
waiting
for
the
the
other
city
component,
as
as
you
are
the
fiscal
agent,
this
the
city
is
the
fiscal
agent
for
bdd
to
complete
their
records.
D
Behind,
where
are
we,
mr
chair
counselor?
We
are
in
the
process
of
closing
out
fiscal
year
20.,
and
so
we
have
a
schedule
that
we
are
on
track
for
to
be
able
to
see.
You
know
have
our
audit
team
cla,
probably
the
external
auditors
that
you
spoke
with.
You
know
on-site
here
in
the
next
few
months.
A
Yes,
okay,
so
that
in
that
concludes
the
departments
we
were
gonna
hear
today,
we
will
pick
up
tomorrow
at
1
p.m,
with
community
services
we'll
have
fire
police
and
emergency
management
and
safety.
Thank
you
staff
and
thank
you
to
the
members
of
the
governing
body
and
the
finance
committee.
We
are
adjourned.