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A
All
right,
I
believe
we
are
live
on
youtube.
It
is
104
and
I
will
call
to
order
the
what
is
this
one,
two,
three,
four
five,
the
fifth
day
of
our
budget
hearing
second
week,
it
is
april
20th
2022.
If
we
could
get
a
roll
call
vote,
please.
B
A
Counselor
lindell
here
and
councillor
romero,
romeroworth,
I
am
here.
Thank
you.
We
have
a
quorum
all
right,
everybody's
here
approval
of
the
agenda.
I
do
not
believe
we
have
changes
today
to
this
agenda,
so
it
is.
As
you
see
it,
am
I
correct
director
mccoy
madame
cherry?
Yes,
that
is
correct.
Okay,
if
we
could
get
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda,
move
to
approve
second
promotion
in
a
second
to
approve
today's
agenda
if
we
could
get
a
roll
call.
Please
answer
vera.
A
Yes,
councillor
cassette!
Yes,
counselor
lindell!
Yes,
council
romero
worth
yes!
Thank
you
all
right,
terrific!
Thank
you.
We
have
an
agenda
chairs
opening
remarks.
I
just
want
to
let
everybody
know
we
do
have
public
works
here
today
there
are.
What
did
you
tell
me
director,
six,
seven
different
divisions?
We
need
to
go
through
six
and
then
we
need
to
circle
back
and
on
the
human
resources
and
the
community
engagement
city
clerk
budget,
and
we
have
the
next
three
hours
to
move
through
all
of
this.
A
So
again,
let's
just
kind
of
be
cognizant
of
each
other
and
the
time-
and
you
know
that
works
on
both
way,
both
sides
right
on
the
counselors
asking
questions
and
the
staff
providing
answers.
If
you
answer
the
question,
you
don't
need
to
answer
it
10
more
times
in
saying
it
a
different
way.
So
you
know
everybody
and
we
don't
have
to
ask
the
question
10
different
ways
either.
So,
let's
just
everybody
try
to
pay
attention
to
how
how
that
works
and
we'll
we'll
move
along
in
the
time
we
have.
A
So
with
that
we
have
director
wheeler
here
to
kick
us
off
and
your
staff.
I
think,
and
I'll
just
turn
it
over
to
you
unless
director
mccoy,
you
had
anything
you
needed
to
add
at
this
point.
A
No,
madam
chair,
we
are
ready
to
begin
great.
Then,
let's
do
it.
C
C
All
right
great,
thank
you
so
much,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
city
manager
for
being
present.
I'm
regina
wheeler,
the
public
works
director
for
the
city
of
santa
fe
and
I'm
very
proud
to
bring
to
you
today.
The
public
works
department
budget
to
presence
the
work
of
public
works.
Public
works
maintains
all
of
the
civic
infrastructure
in
the
city
of
santa
fe,
and
it's
a
good
way
to
think
about
that
is.
C
Whenever
you're
walking
down
the
street
every
bit
of
that
street
is
planned,
built
designed,
maintained
and
operated
by
the
public
works
department,
the
sidewalks,
the
storm
water
drains,
the
pavement,
the
stop
signs,
the
street
lights.
The
signals,
as
you
walk
by
a
park
and
children
are
playing
public
works,
is
planning
and
operating
maintaining
that
park.
C
When
you
go
to
a
rec
center,
where
families
are
recreating
that
facility
is
planned,
operated
and
maintained
by
by
the
public
works
department,
we
operate
plan
and
maintain
the
transportation
infrastructure
for
the
city,
which
includes
the
roadways,
trails,
bicycle
paths,
buses
of
course,
and
the
airport.
C
So
it's
a
very
large
undertaking
that
public
works
manages
every
single
year.
We
really
we
do
that
with
360
approximately
dedicated
employees
who
come
to
work
every
single
day
to
make
sure
that
the
city
of
santa
fe
is
a
safe
and
vibrant,
a
city
to
live
in.
C
We,
I
think,
have
made
some
really
good
progress
in
implementing
the
governing
body's
vision
of
a
really
vital,
safe
and
progressive
civic
space
in
the
city
of
santa
fe,
and
we'll
continue
to
do
that
really
appreciate
your
support
and
your
leadership,
and
that
our
team
is
completely
inspired
by
your
vision
of
a
sustainable,
safe
and
multimodal
city,
and
that's
what
we're
focused
on
delivering.
C
We
collaborate
with
hundreds
of
constituents,
probably
every
month
and
not
across
it.
We
have
extremely
high
visibility
to
the
public.
We
have
a
lot
of
communication
with
the
public
responsiveness
to
the
public
as
well
as
the
counselors.
C
So
we
take
that
really
seriously
and
I
think
it's
helped
to
make
us
better
and
hopefully
help
to
have
the
results
that
people
want
to
see
in
the
community
realized.
The
budget
that
we're
looking
at
today
is
our
operating
budget
and
there's
a
whole
nother
budget
that
public
works
maintains,
which
is
the
capital
budget.
C
So
it's
important
to
keep
those
distinct
because,
as
a
city
of
course,
maintaining
all
of
this
infrastructure
takes
a
lot
of
capital
planning
and
improvements
and
those
are
funded
in
various
ways,
as
you
know
that
we've
been
funding
them
over
the
years
and
we'll
continue
to
do
that
in
the
future.
So
this
there
are
some
capital
maintenance
funds
in
this
operating
budget,
but
those
will
generally
be
peeled
out
for
the
grt
bond
or
separate
allocations
or
legislative
appropriations.
But
that
is
a
very
big,
important
piece.
Actually,
it's
a
larger
piece
of
our
budget.
C
What
you'll
find
in
this
budget
and
what
we're
presenting
to
you
is
the
budget
that
public
works
department
needs
to
maintain
and
operate
this
civic
infrastructure
at
a
level
that
the
governing
body
and
the
constituents
have,
let
us
know
as
their
expectations
of
service
level.
We
believe
that
this
budget
really
will
deliver
on
what
we've
learned
from
the
constituents.
What
we've
learned
from
diving
in
deeper
to
managing
our
infrastructure,
and
so
that
is
the
budget
you
see
before
you.
C
The
budget
that
we
need
to
do
a
good
job
this
year
to
maintain
and
operate
and
constitute
demands
for
services
in
our
city
infrastructure.
C
Another
thing
that
you'll
see
in
this
budget
is
that
you
know
that,
as
you
can
see,
public
works
is
operating
at
over
30
vacancy
rate.
That
vacancy
rate
is
actually
more
painful
than
it
might
even
seem,
because
a
lot
of
leadership
positions
are
vacant.
C
So
everybody
that
you
see
here
as
a
leader
in
the
public
works
department
is
doing
a
double
or
triple
duty
and
we're
doing
some
great
work,
but
it
is
extremely
taxing,
and
so
we
will
see
a
strategy
in
this
budget
where
we
have
a
four-pronged
strategy
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
resources
to
meet
the
demands
of
this
community
and
make
sure
that
it's
family-friendly
that
it's
safe,
that
it's
serviceable
and
that
four-prong
strategy
for
meeting
those
community
needs
and
customer
and
governing
body
expectations
are
number
one,
of
course,
working
really
hard
to
fill.
C
All
of
our
full-time
positions.
We've
been
doing
great
work
on
that.
We've
brought
some
great
people
into
the
team
this
year.
I
heard
director
klutz
mentioned
yesterday
that
he's
definitely
getting
more
resumes
and
really
be
more
successful
at
recruitment
and
hiring,
and
we
are
seeing
the
same
thing.
We
haven't
filled
all
the
positions,
but
we
are
definitely
seeing
an
improvement
in
the
number
of
qualified
candidates
to
our
listings.
C
So
number
one
strategy
for
meeting
demands
is
our
full-time
positions
in
the
department.
Second
piece
of
our
strategy
for
meeting
demands
is
using
use
of
seasonal
employees,
of
course,
because
many
of
the
demands,
for
instance
in
parks,
especially
and
at
the
golf
course,
are
seasonal.
It's
there's
much
less
going
on
in
the
winter
and
much
more
going
on
in
summer.
C
That
season
does
extend
beyond
just
the
summer
break
for
college
and
high
school
students,
so
it's
somewhat
challenging
to
fill
seasonal
positions,
but
we
do
maximize
that
as
a
very
important
part
of
our
strategy.
C
The
third
prong
of
our
strategy
is
to
engage
professional
services
partners
to
meet
our
needs,
and
we
do
this
all
over
the
place
in
public
works.
We
do
it
a
lot
in
sort
of
the
engineering
and
streets
area
where
we
need
qualified
pes
of
different
types
of
skill
levels
and
abilities
to
really
focus
on,
say,
traffic,
calming
requests
or
drt
review
where
we
have
vacancies
right
now,
so
you'll
see
that
we're
employing
professional
services
there.
C
We
employ
professional
services
to
help
us
clean
up
encampments
to
help
us
in
the
medians
so
that
we
may
we're
using
all
of
these
pieces
of
the
puzzle
to
make
sure
that
we
could
be
where
we
need
to
be
to
make
those
maintenance
and
repairs
and
operation
on
activities
to
to
keep
the
city
running
well
and
then
the
fourth
prong
of
our
fourth
product
approach
is
our
temp
labor
services.
C
The
state
has
procured
a
number
of
attempt
agencies
to
help
local
governments
and
other
governmental
entities
meet
their
labor
demands
and
we
have
been
successful
at
utilizing
that
as
well.
So
it
really
really
that's
what
you'll
see
across
the
public
works
budget.
Is
that
four-pronged
approach
to
making
sure
that
we
have
the
workforce
to
the
needs
of
the
community?
C
So
that's
my
overview.
You
know
I'm
just
really
proud
to
lead.
The
team
of
public
works
division
directors
that
lead
the
six
divisions
that
create
public.
Oh,
could
we
go
back
one
slide,
I'm
so
sorry
about
that.
I
just
remembered
something
I
should
point
out
what
you'll
see
in
this
high
level.
Organizational
chart
here
is
a
new
division
name,
so
you
guys
are
familiar
with
the
airport
facilities
parks
and
open
space
is
actually,
admittedly
structured
division.
C
It
was
created,
the
parks
division
was
moved
into
public
works
with
the
golf
course
in
september
2020
and
now
after
a
year
and
some
and
a
half
of
leadership
mitch.
C
Mcdonald
is
officially
our
parks
and
open
space
division
director
we're
so
happy
to
have
heard
of
taking
on
this
responsibility
and
stormwater
and
the
river
have
moved
with
her
into
that
and
there's
a
lot
of
synergy
there,
so
that
division
now
contains
parks,
open
space
trails,
maintenance
and
storm
water
and
the
golf
course
and
mrc
big
big
division
and
gets
a
lot
of
attention.
C
C
I
thought
there
was
some
really
good
words
in
there
about
this,
that
it
combines
the
teams
that
engineer,
design
and
plan
the
capital,
creation
and
reconstruction
of
our
roadway
facilities
with
the
team
that
maintain
and
operate
those
facilities,
and
it
really
provides
for
a
really
nice
sort
of
cross-pollination
of
field,
expertise
and
engineering
expertise
and
I'm.
So.
The
team
is
really
excited
about
this
combination.
C
The
combination
combining
the
two
divisions
also
frees
up
a
division
director
that
we've
been
missing
in
transit
transit's.
Second
division
director
was
moved
in
september
2020,
and
so
this
will
allow
us
to
reinstate
that
so
that
we
can
have
a
director
of
administration
in
transit
and
this
team.
C
C
As
you
guys
know,
she
has
been
really
stepping
up
and
helping
fill
gaps
in
this
area
for
the
past
year
and
doing
this
really
really
excellent
job
of
this
work.
For
us.
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
now
there's
six
divisions
there
used
to
be
seven,
and
I
think
that
combination
will
be
a
real
win
for
the
employees
and
for
the
public
it'll
be
less
using
it.
It's
a
little
confusing
for
the
public
to
figure
out
where
to
go
with
a
that
issue.
C
Okay,
I'm
ready
for
the
next
slide,
and
then
I
think
you
can
read
this
slide.
It's
basically,
as
I
said
this
budget
will
provide
the
funding
that
we
need
to
maintain
and
operate
the
significance
of
this
vast
civic
infrastructure
in
the
city
of
santa
fe
next
slide.
C
So,
as
I
mentioned,
we're
using
the
multi-pronged
approach
to
meeting
the
demand,
so
the
public
works
department,
administration
division
is
under
me
and
it
basically
has
the
high
level
administration
of
the
department
in
it.
It
also
has
a
couple
of
project
administrator
positions
in
there
because
of
the
allocation
of
those
new
positions
in
the
fiscal
year.
22
budget-
that's
discussed
here
a
little
bit
that
was
a.
C
We
got
four
project
administrators
positions
put
in
for
the
purpose
of
increasing
capital
capacity
in
the
city,
which
was
really
timely
because
now,
as
you
know,
we
have
even
more
capital
opportunity
and
we
knew.
Then
we
had
a
lot.
C
One
of
those
positions
will
be
converted
to
a
capital
projects,
manager
for
city-wide
capital
planning
and
then
there'll
be
another
capital
projects
manager
inside
the
complete
speech,
division
for
the
roadway
capital,
planning
and
deployment,
and
then
just
to
say.
The
first
couple
of
bullets
here
are
that:
well,
we
are
employing
contractors
now
to
assist
us
with
traffic.
Calming
leeroy
pacheco,
as
you
know,
is
under
contract.
C
He's
worked
for
the
division
he's
doing
it
for
the
party
he's
doing
a
great
job
of
really
fielding
the
requests
performing
the
studies
getting
the
answers
out,
so
people
are
feeling
responded
to
as
they
submit
their
traffic
calming
requests
to
us
and
their.
That
team
is
also
performing
drt
review
of
proposed
developments,
and
so
we
have-
and
we
also
have
a
traffic
engineer
under
contract
to
perform
what's
needed
for
my
traffic
engineering
tv.
C
So
we
filled
that
gap
and
I
think
it's
working
really
well
actually
to
serve
the
city
in
the
with
the
vacancies
that
we
have
in
that
in
that
area.
Right
now,
and
I
think
that's
all
for
public
works
administration.
I
see
there's
rail
yard
here
and
that
is
actually
sam
burnett's
responsibility.
He
is
wearing
that
hat
of
the
still
as
the
property
maintenance
manager,
as
well
as
the
facilities
division,
director
and
so
sam.
Would
you
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
rail
yard
operations
budget
here.
D
Yeah
absolutely
thank
you
very
much,
regina
good
afternoon,
mr
manager
counselors
the
rail
yard.
This
is
essentially
the
rail
yard
operational
budget.
It
basically
covers
dues,
market
station
maintenance,
security
and
kind
of
other
basic
operational
needs.
It's
really
focused
on
providing
the
best
service
possible
to
our
constituents
and
tenants
in
the
rail
yard,
and
you
know
equip
quickly
that
that
that
is
essentially
what
this
budget
is
focused
on.
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
a
few
questions
about
rallied
operations.
Happy
to
see.
There's
security
in
there
there's
a
233
000
for
rail
yard
security.
E
D
Counselor,
our
madam
chair
counselor,
via
real.
We
are
we're
working
on
a
two-prong
approach
for
security.
Right
now
we
are
finalizing
an
rfp
for
on-call
security
contracts.
D
We
hope
to
award
three
to
five
new
contracts,
creating
more
diversity
and
coverage
availabilities
for
the
city
and
we're
also
in
the
beginnings
of
conversations
for
us
in
the
rail
yard.
Obviously,
our
big
partner
is
the
rail
yard
community
corporation
and
how
our
two
entities
can
work
together
to
provide
coverage
for
our
various
areas
of
responsibility
to
kind
of
increase,
our
collective
efficiency,
if
that
makes
sense,.
E
Yes,
that
makes
sense
to
me.
I
think
we
need
to
do
more
of
that,
considering
what's
happening
in
that
area
with
break-ins
and
obviously,
when
you
have
more
activity
in
the
rail
yard,
there's
less
likely
that
for
those
activities
nefarious
activities
to
happen.
So
that's
good
to
hear
and
233
000
is
only
specific
to
the
rail
yard.
D
Adam
chair
counselor,
via
real,
that
is
correct.
E
Okay
and
then
a
lot
of
us
got
emails
about
this,
it's
essentially
the
contract
we
have
with
the
rail
yard
conservancy
park
park,
conservancy
excuse
me
and
at
first
I
didn't
understand
what
this
line
item
was,
but
the
hundred
thousand
it
says
for
horticultural
care
is
that
the
contract
with
the
rail
yard
park,
conservancy.
E
Okay,
so
100k
that
covers
that,
then
there's
an
amount.
I
know
that
there
was
an
an
additional
amount
that
you
all
requested
for
maintenance,
and
so
now
the
amount
comes
down
to
378
000
for
maintenance,
so
how
much
of
that
will
be
utilized
or
directed
towards
our
irrigation
systems?
Slash
water,
harvesting,.
D
Madam
chair
counselor,
via
real,
I,
what
we're
we're
looking
at
a
plan
to
use
our
operational
budget
upfront
to
addre,
to
address
irrigation
and
water
harvesting
and
then,
when
we
issue
a
bond
or
find
another
funding
source
later
in
the
year,
perhaps
even
mid-year
budget
kind
of
recouping
those
upfront
costs
to
allow
us
to
pick
back
up
on
general
maintenance.
So
I
think
we're
we're
strategizing
on
how
to
best
cover
that
at
the
moment,.
E
D
Madam
chair
counselor,
via
real,
we
are
definitely
it
definitely
puts
us
in
a
position
of
of
actively
looking
for
four
funding
sources
for
that
irrigation
repair.
That
is,
that
is
correct.
E
F
Director
mccoy
adam
chair,
counselor
of
via
rail,
to
follow
up
on
sam's
response
and
I'm
sure
director
wheeler,
can
also
add
some
color
into
this.
F
We
always
work
coordinated
together
to
find
the
right
funding
sources
we
discussed
last
tuesday
for
the
right
expenditures
and
that
the
city
has
so
several
items
did
come
in
through
an
operating
budget
request
that
were
more
appropriate
for
a
capital
budget
or
for
as
an
example
to
be
included
in
a
gross
receipts,
tax
bond,
a
go
bond
or
any
other
of
the
multiple
funding
sources,
including
capital
outlay,
funding
that
we
receive
from
the
state
every
year.
I
know
director
wheeler
has
done
an
excellent
job
at
coordinating
through
all
the
different
departments.
F
What
the
needs
are
in
terms
of
deferred
maintenance
that
you
had
referred
to
earlier
and
what
the
priorities
are
for
the
city
through
and
what
the
appropriate
funding
sources
are.
So
I
hope
that
gives
a
little
bit
more
detail
to
the
team,
the
teamwork
that
goes
on
behind
the
scenes,
as
we
try
to
determine
what
the
best
funding
sources
for
the
needs
of
our
community.
E
I
definitely
think
there's
other
funding
sources
that
could
support
that
and
put
like
a
piecemeal
effort
to
it.
It's
just
that
this
one
has
been
deferred
for
so
long
that
I
feel
like
putting
some
funding
that
will
actually
get
kicked
in
right
away
versus
waiting
for
approval
of
a
geo
bond
waiting
for
funding
through
the
legislature
that
just
takes
longer,
and
we
can't
even
use
that
money
right
away.
E
So
that's
my
concern
so
I'll
hold
it
to
you
all
to
keep
finding
that
funding
source
so
that
we
can
actually
get
things
completed
before
it
gets
any
worse
at
the
rail
yard
with
the
vegetation
and
then
let's
see
the
other
piece
is
the
we
worked
on
this,
this
mid-year
adjustment,
but
we
keep
reducing
the
amounts
for
special
events
and
while
it
made
sense
during
covid
because
of
the
fact
that
there
weren't
events
happening,
we
did
another
reduction
from
the
75k
that
we
give
for
special
events
at
the
rail
yard
and
reduced
to
50k.
E
So
my
question
is:
why
do
we
do
that
when
budget
adjustments
mid
point,
don't
make
sense
for
such
a
small
amount?
And
the
fact
is:
there's
programmatic
stuff
already
in
the
works
already
lined
up
already
contracts
already
set
and
people
need
outdoor
activities.
We
have
been
in
the
pandemic
and
we're
here
in
another
situation
where
we
have
an
opportunity
to
match.
What's
already
been
raised,
we
have
an
exorbitant
other
amounts
coming
from
other
different
sources,
grant
funding
private
sector.
E
C
Madame
chair
counselor
via
real,
I
think
I
can
respond
to
that.
I
think
the
challenge
with
the
rail
yard
budget
and
is
that
it
has
to
be
a
balanced
budget,
our
balanced
budget
across
the
entire
city
and
that
that's
what's
been
developed,
not
everything
that
we
wanted
to
fund
right
off
the
bat
fit
in
a
balanced
budget,
and
so
some
things
are
expected
to
be
funded.
As
we
gain
more
clarity,
I
guess
about
grt
revenue
in
the
future
and
potential
mid-year.
This
contract
gets
established
in
early
fiscal
year.
E
E
I
would
just
want
to
understand
why
we're
not
just
making
that
change
and
just
keeping
what
we
had
initially,
because
when
you
look
at
this
budget,
75
000
is
not
that's
like
a
drop
in
the
bucket
for
all
the
other
contracts
and
other
maintenance
requirements
and
other
things
that
we're
doing
for
this
particular
budget
and
other
budgets.
So.
A
E
E
A
I'm
not
sure
we
have
money,
pots
and
or
honey
pots.
They're.
Just
you
know
it's
a
balanced
budget,
so
there
isn't
money
to
my
knowledge
just
sitting
around,
but
I
I
hear
you
we'll
see
what
what
if
any
options
there
are.
E
I'm
good,
let's
see
railyard,
let's
see
what
else
was
there.
D
Madame
chair
counselor,
via
real
the
other,
the
other
allocation
for
infrastructure
is
for
ongoing
repairs
and
maintenance.
For
you
know,
if
you
know
and
there's
damage
to
the
infrastructure,
something
breaks,
it
allows
us
to
contract
with
vendors
to
make
those
repairs
as
needed
throughout
the
season
or
year.
D
Yeah
this,
madam
chair
counselor,
via
real,
that's
correct.
This
is
more
specific
to
infrastructure
in
the
rail
yard,
so
the
city
we
are
yeah,
we,
it
is
separate.
It
is
repairs
and
maintenance,
but
specific
to
infrastructure
which
we
maintain
throughout
both
the
park
and
the
north
rail
yard
business
district.
You
know
things
that
you
know.
Businesses
are
dependent
on
for
operations
in
the
rail
yard,
the
electrical
grid,
gas,
water,
etc,
etc.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
counselor,
lindell,.
G
Thank
you
chair.
I
just
have
one
quick
question:
what
what
are
the
dues?
What
are
what
are
we
joining?
What
are
we,
what
are
was
it
probably
not
for
magazines.
D
What
what
are
the
dues
madame,
madam
chair,
counselor,
lynn,
dowell?
Those
dues
are
our
common
area
maintenance
fee
for
our
25
portion
of
the
market
station
building.
I
Thank
you,
counselor
counselor
cassette.
Thank
you
much.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
I
wanted
a
clarification
following
up
on
councilwoman
vitoria's
questions
about
the
special
events,
so
I
apologize
so
councilman
vitoria
had
referred
to
budget
adjustments.
Can
you
can
I
have
a
little
bit
more
information?
There
is
the
is
the
plan
essentially
to
start
at
50
and
then
to
come
forward
with
the
budget
adjustment,
as
we
look
at
grt.
Is
that
my
understanding.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
councillor,
cassette.
I
think
that
that's
correct.
We
fully
expect
to
be
able
to
fund
that
at
75
000
by
the
time,
it's
time
to
establish
that
contract
early
in
fiscal
year
20.
I
feel
early
in
calendar
year,
23.
C
I
I
Okay,
okay,
yeah
I'll
need
to
have
my
brain
chew
on
this
for
a
little
bit
because
apparently
my
brain
choose.
I
I
do
think
that
it
is
it's
important
to
have
these
activities
and
and
really
feeling
confident
that
we're
gonna
be
able
to
fund
it
at
the
full
amount
is
going
to
be.
You
know
important
to
me,
so
I
will
think
on
this
a
little
bit
more
thanks.
So
much
for
the
clarification.
A
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Counselor
lindell
your
hands
still
up,
but
I
think
it's
an
old
hand.
So
I'm
going
to
go
to
counselor
rivera.
J
Just
one
more
question
on
the
special
events
for
rail
yard
operations,
so
they
have
enough
funding
to
get
them
through
the
rest
of
this
fiscal
year.
Is
that
correct.
D
Madam
chair
counselor
rivera,
I
believe
we
have
currently
spent
down
around
45,
000
or
50
000
of
the
event
funding
for
this
year.
With
about
thirty
thousand
dollars
left
to
spend
is
my
recollection.
I
don't
have
the
numbers
in
front
of
me,
but,
roughly
speaking,
approximately
that
amount
at
the
moment.
C
J
All
right
so
30
to
get
them
through
the
first
part
of
the
summer
until
this
new
budget
takes
place.
So
it
looks
like
75
to
is
a
realistic
look
at
the
budget.
J
So
just
wanted
to
ask
that
question
and
then
on
the
on
prime
gov
there's
the
presentation
and
then
in
one
of
the
wine
items
it
says
other
operating
costs
and
for
actual
expenditures
for
19
for
fiscal
year
1920
it
was
but
budgeted
at
2.3
million,
and
then
the
proposed
budget
for
this
fiscal
year
or
this
proposed
budget
is
172.
J
D
D
But
I
may
be
mistaken
there.
It
could
have
been
related
to
projects
more
likely
related
to
bonds.
A
J
Yeah
so
on
the
on
prime
gov,
on
page
5
of
22,
I
think
it
is.
It
has
expenditures,
and
it
goes
through
a
couple
fiscal
years
and
in
fiscal
year
2019
2020
the
budget
was
2.3
million,
and
then
the
proposed
budget
for
this
year
is
about
172
000.
So
just
wondering
what
that
money
was
for,
and
was
it
just
one
time
projects
or
what
else
was
it.
K
We
were
going
to
budget
the
debt
service
into
individual
or
into
the
individual
accounts
funds,
and
then
they
decided
they
wanted
to
change
it
to
a
a
bond,
just
a
generic,
a
new
fund
for
all
bond
payments,
and
then
we
moved
it
back.
K
J
All
right,
I
think
that
was
it
for
rare.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you.
We're
going
to
move
on
because
we're
already
at
140.-
and
I
believe,
are
we
going
director
wheeler
to
airport-
is
that
next,
where
there
we
go
airport.
C
Thank
you
so
much
madam
chair
and
mark
baca.
The
airport
manager
will
present
this
budget.
L
Airport
budget
we're
presenting
this
year
is,
as
everybody
is
saying,
we're
highlighting
our
services
to
the
public
and
the
airport
users
and
keeping
a
compliance
with
both
tsc
and
faa.
We
do
have
a
couple
of
the
items
that
we're
adding
on
writing
a
couple
of
or
two
full-time
employees,
one
in
the
maintenance
division.
One.
L
In
the
custodial
division,
helping
out
with
you
know,
with
the
upcoming
terminal
and
once
it
gets
completed,
we
also
are
working
on
adding
a
all-inclusive
security,
badging
processing
system,
which
includes
our
cameras
and
and
an
online
badging
system.
So
that's
pretty
much
the
highlights.
I
can
stand
for
questions.
A
Great
questions
from
the
committee:
let's
take
the
screen
down
and
you
can
always
go
back
if
we
need
to
the
presentation.
E
Thank
you,
mr
baka,
just
a
quick
question
about
that
equipment,
the
airport
rescue
and
fire
firefighting
truck,
which
is
the
specialized
vehicle.
So
why
is
this
funded
in
the
airport
budget
if
it's
under
fire
and
if,
but
if
a
bar
is
needed
for
fiscal
year,
22
that
we're
currently
in
then?
Why
are
we?
Why
is
this
being
proposed
in
fiscal
year,
23.
L
Councilwoman,
what
we're,
actually
I'm
pretty
excited
to
say
we
actually
found
funding
this
year
to
to
get
that
piece
of
equipment,
so
that
is,
that
is
our
major.
Without
that
we
don't
have
commercial
service
or
any
firefighting
protection
out
here.
So
my
partners
are
our
partners
with
the
fire
department
and
finance
were
able
to
locate
some
funding
our
current
funding.
So
we
won't
be
needing
that
in
my
operating
budget
and
ms
mccoy
is
there
for
clarification.
F
Director
mark
madam
chair
counselor.
We
also
have
chief
moya
on
the
line
to
talk
a
bit
about
this.
This
is
really
a
strategic
decision.
The
governing
body
will
be
seeing
two
additional
budget
adjustments
for
the
remainder
of
fiscal
year,
23,
I'm
sorry
22
coming
in
at
the
may,
2nd
finance
committee,
starting
with
the
may
2nd
finance
committee
meeting.
We
understand
that,
given
the
supply
chain
of
problems
that
are
going
on,
we
need
these
vehicles,
the
arf
truck
in
particular,
as
well
as
additional
police
vehicles
to
be
funded
out
of
the
fy
22
budget.
F
E
F
F
Respond,
yes,
okay,
as
I
was
saying,
madam
chair
counselor,
this
is
an
extremely
high
priority
for
the
city.
As
director
baca
was
stating
we
are
not
able
to
provide
operations
at
the
airport
without
this
vehicle,
and
this
vehicle
needs
to
be
replaced.
So
our
intention
was
to
make
the
intention
of
the
city
and
the
priority
of
this
particular
capital
expense
abundantly
clear
to
the
council.
What
the
game
plan
was
to
fund
this
particular
vehicle
immediately.
E
A
Mccoy
are
we
vote,
we're
not
voting
on
the
bar
when
we
take
the
vote
on
this
department.
Are
we
madame
chair,
counselor?
Yes,
that
is
correct,
madam
chair,
so
that
we
are
in
the
budget.
F
A
That
we
are
not
voting
on
this
budget
adjustment
as
part
of
this
budget.
So
I'm!
Yes,
you
are
correct.
Okay,
sorry,
so
just
to
be
clear
and
I
think
counselor.
I
think
it
was
just
a
way
of
flagging
it
to
our
attention.
E
E
L
L
Utilizing
actual
airport
intern
that
was
in
here.
C
Thank
you
so
much
madam
chair,
mark
counselor
via
real.
There
were
a
number
of
parking
attendant
positions
that
are
not
needed
in
parking
since
we
have
the
automated
system,
and
so
as
there's
needs
in
other
divisions.
Those
positions
are
being
moved
to
fulfill
needs
at
the
airport,
and
mark
has
actually
desperately
needed
to
expand
the
maintenance
team
at
the
airport
for
some
time
he's
one
of
the
first
people
in
a
snow
plow,
that's
really
not
where
we
want
our
airport
manager
spending
his
time
right.
C
So
I
think
this
is
a
good
adjustment
that
we're
finally
making
to
give
him
a
position
for
that
maintenance
and
take
it
from
parking
where
it's
no
longer
needed.
E
A
D
Madam
chair
counselors,
mr
burnett,
again
so
facilities
division
this
year.
Our
budget
is
really
focused
in
on
a
few
important
things:
one
we're
adding
some
new
custodians
for
new
facilities,
we're
bringing
online
this
year,
specifically
the
downtown
restrooms,
we're
very
focused
on
addressing
deferred
maintenance
throughout
city
facilities
and
have
requested
and
been
to
date,
granted
the
budget.
We
need
in
repairs
and
maintenance
and
service
contracts
to
tackle
that.
D
We
also
have
an
allocation
for
the
development
of
a
substation
in
city
hall,
and
you
know
pretty
pretty
straightforward,
just
very
focused
on
improving
the
services,
we're
able
to
provide
city
staff
and
our
constituents
throughout
all
city
facilities,
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
E
Councilwoman
via
rail,
just
a
clarification
for
the
I'm
glad
they'll
be
custodial
positions
for
the
downtown
restroom,
and
is
that
solely
just
for
downtown
restroom?
Are
they
going
to
be
utilized
for
other
facilities?
They're.
D
Their
primary
excuse
me,
madam
chair
counselor,
via
real,
their
primary
duties,
will
be
focused
on
the
downtown
restrooms,
but
our
custodial
staff
is
very
skilled
at
floating,
from
facilities
to
facility
as
needed.
So
having
additional
staff
downtown
will
provide
us
the
opportunity
to
support
other
facilities
as
needed.
E
D
E
D
So
the
madam
chair,
counselor,
via
real
the
main
elevators
we
maintain,
are
our
city
hall
parking.
I
maintains
their
own
elevators.
We
we
assist
with
the
library
and
geneviva
chavez.
Community
center
got
it.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
rivera.
J
Thank
you
manager.
I
had
a
question
about
how
many
vacant
parking
attendants
we
had
and
where
were
the
they
being
classified
to,
but
I
just
read
it
again
in
the
parking
division.
So
thank
you.
G
Thank
you,
councilor
lindell,
thanks
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
on
an
awful
lot
of
these
questions
that
are
being
asked,
it
looks
like
sam
burnett's,
our
guy,
that
answers
them
and
I
think
you're,
probably
wearing
a
bunch
of
different
hats.
G
Sam
all
of
them
look
good
on
you,
although
you
probably
don't
want
to
wear
all
of
them
at
the
same
time,
but
it
doesn't
go
unnoticed.
How
many
different
places
that
you're
at
right
now
and
it's
appreciated,
and
hopefully
we'll
get
some
other
people
hired
and
and
you'll
get
a
little
break
on
some
of
this
stuff
and
just
want
you
to
know
that
it
doesn't
go
unnoticed.
Thank
you,
chair.
D
Right,
madam
chair
counselors,
mr
mayor
city
manager,
midtown
budget
this
year,
as
in
other
years,
the
primary
focus
is
on
continuing
to
maintain
the
campus
partially
focused,
of
course,
on
maintaining
its
value
and
operational
capabilities
and
also
looking
towards
the
future
and
making
investments
in
those
buildings.
We
we've
identified
as
culturally
or
historically
significant
to
the
community
and
beyond
that.
That
is
the
primary
focus
of
this
budget
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
A
Thank
you,
sam
or
mr
burnett
as
we're
calling
you
with
many
hats
questions
from
the
committee
councilwoman
villarreal.
E
D
Absolutely
madam
chair
counselor,
via
real
our
primary
service
contracts
at
midtown,
are
focused
on
security
fire
again
fire
protection
and
fire
safety
and
landscaping.
D
Adam
chair
counselor,
via
real
in
the
last
fiscal
year.
I
believe
I
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me,
but
roughly
320
000.
We
have
24
7
security
at
midtown
because
it
is
such
a
large
property
with
such
a
large
number
of
buildings
that
are
uninhabited.
C
M
Additionally,
it
will
fund
replacement
of
antiquated
3g
single
space
meters.
We
currently
have
on
the
streets
to
5g,
which
is
absolutely
necessary
at
this
point,
and
last
but
not
least,
we
want
to
extend
a
contract.
We
got
as
an
emergency
situation
with
a
calling
professional
calling
service
to
respond
to
all
calls
that
are
made
either
at
the
exit
when
people
are
exiting
and
trying
to
pay,
but
have
difficulties
getting
the
credit
card
approval
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
so
we
are
going
to
extend
that
for
the
next
fiscal
year.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
My
questions
related
to
the
five
parking
attendant
positions
where
they
come
from.
What
did
they
do
in
their
previous
roles,
and
these
are
the
five
that
are
going
to
we're
being
reallocated
to
other
departments.
J
M
Council
rivera
mr
mayor
city
manager
and
the
rest
of
the
councillors,
the
automation
of
our
garages
with
the
new
parking
access
and
revenue
control
system
is
what
enabled
us
when
we
were
when
we
had
embarked
on
preparing
the
fiscal
budget
for
21
in
2020.
During
the
covid
pandemic,
we
were
able
to
reduce
our
budget
because
the
parking
was
not
plugging.
Division,
which
is
a
enterprise
fund
division,
was
not
generating
revenues
due
to
the
issue
with
nobody
wanting
to
park
or
no
one
coming
down
to
visit
our
garages.
J
In
the
automation
process,
how
does
the
validation
of
tickets
work.
M
We
have
two
types
of
validations:
we
have
electronic
devices,
such
as
as
an
example
that
has
been
that
are,
I
believe,
three
issue,
two
violet
crown
for
the
movie
goes
to
be
validated,
which
is
part
of
the
series
current
contract
through
sfrcc
and
violet
crown
to
validate
patrons
that
go
for
movies,
so
we
have
electronic
validators
and
we
also
have
little
stickers
that
we
give
out
for
special
events
as
an
example
at
the
convention
center.
M
What
have
you
and
these
details,
then
by
the
organizers
representative,
are
placed
on
the
parking
ticket
that
people
pull
and
get
free
validation,
which
is
then
which
allows
them
to
exit
the
garage
without
paying.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
councilwoman,
brael,.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
hi,
mr
correa,
just
a
couple
questions
about
staff,
so
how
many
staff
do
we
have
in
parking
right
now
and
and
what
are
the
vacancies
that
you
have.
M
We
have
it,
we
will
have
a
total
of
23..
The
vacancies
we
currently
have
are
two
positions
in
the
maintenance
unit.
We
were
successful
in
filling
two
at
the
recently
held
rapid
hire,
which
is
very
successful
for
the
parking
division
and-
and
so
we
also
had
one
vacancy
in
enforcement,
and
that
was
also
filled
during
this
rapid
high
event.
We
also
were
able
to
fill
a
administrative
manager's
position
in
parking
administration
located
at
the
rail
yard
offices.
M
M
Madam
chair,
mr
mayor
and
councillors,
no,
we
have
not
reduced,
we
have
always
had
eight
positions
and
one
supervisor
we
had
a
vacancy
of
one
which
we
have
just
filled
and
we'll
be
at
full
force
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
Excellent,
thank
you.
E
Sorry,
every
time
when
my
my
budget
book
hits
the
keyboard,
it
wins,
it
goes
on
mute.
Sorry
about
that,
for
the
dead
service
for
the
garages
is
that
what
the
dead
services
the
1.2
madam
chair.
E
The
railyard
garage.
K
Madam
chair
counselor,
via
real
the
that
bond
now
is,
I
believe
it
goes
until
2035
at
this
very
reduced
dollar
amount
in
fy,
201
or
22.
It
was
5.1
million
and
it
dropped
to
310,
000
of
which
parking
only
pays.
30
percent
of
it.
E
Right:
okay,
that's
good
to
know
that
it's
separate
and
it's
a
different
time
period.
Thank
you
for
that
brad
and
then
the
elevators.
You
were
talking
about
for
service
contracts.
That
was
sandoval,
mr
korea
sandoval,
and
what
was
the
other
elevator.
M
Madam
chair
counselor,
at
the
the
the
two
elevators
at
the
sandoval
garage,
are
in
dire
straits
and
need
to
be
completely
torn
apart
and
rebuilt
and
modernized.
So
so
most
of
that
money
will
be
to
do
that.
One
elevator
at
a
time,
then
we
also
in
addition,
have
a
service
contract
with
the
same
company
that
provides
preventive
maintenance
for
all
three
garage
elevators
on
an
ongoing
basis.
So
they
have
a
technician
visiting
the
site,
cleaning,
dusting,
checking
everything
is
working.
You
know,
and
oil
increasing.
A
Thank
you
counselor,
and
I
I
just
have
a
couple
things.
So
you
mentioned
power
washing
at
sandoval.
Is
that
part
of
the
maintenance,
or
is
that
separate.
M
A
Okay,
great,
I
have
a
constituent
who
writes
me
about
that
and
they'll
be
thrilled
to
know
that
director
wheeler
your
hand
is
up,
I'm
so
sorry
to
interrupt.
C
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
chair.
No,
could
you
clarify
for
us?
I
know
that
we've
been
trying
to
put
that
contract
in
place
and
get
it
going
for
way
over
six
months
that
the
contractors
have
been
unable
to
staff
and
deliver
services.
Do
you
have
some
confidence
level
at
this
point
that
that
will
be
forthcoming
soon.
M
Yes,
we
have
an
interested
contractor,
the
I
think,
the
the
hiring
of
or
availability
of
staffing
that
these
companies
had
a
difficult
time
last
year,
getting
stabbed
has
improved,
and
so
they
are
in
a
position
to
not
take
on
added
contracts,
to
provide
the
services
and
and
and
and
also,
I
would
like
to
add,
the
the
total
scope
of
work
from
the
contract
has
slightly
reduced,
because
the
parking
division's
maintenance
unit
is
slowly
getting
all
the
vacancies
filled.
M
So
we
now
have
our
own
staff
vacuuming
and
sweeping
the
garage
floors,
which
you
know
further
reduces.
Last
year
we
did
not
have
but
two
staff
members
in
the
maintenance
out
of
six,
so
that
was
painful.
A
M
Yes,
madam
chair
counselors,
mr
mayor
city
manager,
the
the
contracted
services
that
we
studied
earlier
this
year
have
proved
to
be
very,
very
successful,
because
these
are
experts
in
providing
such
services
to
garage
operations
across
the
nation,
and
we
are
talking
about
big,
big
garages,
airport
parking
garages
etc.
This
service.
What
they
do
is
I
get
reports
on
a
daily
basis
as
to
how
many
calls
they
get
by
garage
and
also
how
long
it
takes
for
the
call
to
be
answered
and-
and
the
issue
resolved
the
call
answering
to
date.
M
The
average
has
been
about
4.5
seconds
and
the
call
is
answered
and
the
issue
is
resolved
because
we
have
given
them
a
list
of
what
they
can
do,
based
upon
our
experience,
what
difficulties
people
normally
have
and
they
call-
and
they
can
quickly
go
straight
to
that
particular
issue.
We
have
given
them
a
script
and
they
follow
the
instructions
and
get
the
information
we
need
like.
C
Director
wheeler
just
a
tiny
addition.
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
chair,
that
the
way
this
call
service
is
activated
is
the
little
button
when
people
are
trying
to
get
out
and
they
have
trouble,
and
then
I
don't
know
if
there's
also
numbers
posted,
but
it
was
really
important.
People
were
not
getting
responded
to
fast
enough
when
they
were
pressing
that
button
at
the
exit.
Now
they
get
instant
response
and
somebody
can
see
what's
going
on
at
that
site
instantly
and
resolve
it,
so
that
should
really
help
us
out
with
this
new
automated
system.
A
Yeah,
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
and
I
I
think
the
community
will
be
glad
as
well.
So
thank
you
all
right.
We're
gonna
move
on
to
parks
now
and
we
have
our
new
parks
director,
melissa
mcdonald
with
us.
O
Madam
chair,
mr
mayor
councillors,
mr
city
manager,
thank
you
so
much
for
this
opportunity.
We've
been
focusing
to
really
meet
our
resident's
level
of
service
concerns.
As
regina
stated,
this
is
always
a
priority
in
a
maintenance
budget.
I
believe
we've
come
a
really
long
way,
but
this
year
our
budget's
really
focusing
on
building
systems
that
will
help
us
overcome
some
of
our
divisions,
deficiencies
and
deferred
maintenance.
O
So
you
can
see
that
we
have
a
significantly
increased
some
of
our
seasonal
employees,
as
director
wheeler
mentioned
at
the
parks,
we're
going
from
eight
seasonal
employees
to
20
at
the
mrc,
we're
going
from
six
to
nine
and
we're
just
really
trying
to
focus
on
having
the
the
folks
that
we
need
to
get
the
job
done.
These
these
seasonal
workers
will
be
doing
weed
removal,
litter,
pickup,
trash
removal,
helping
with
encampments
things
like
that.
The
other
areas
that
we're
looking
at
our
weed
control
measures.
O
We
have
a
really
exciting
new
pilot
project,
which
is
a
steam
reader,
which
it's
gonna
be
really
great,
and
I
can
talk
about
that.
If
you
have
questions
we're,
also
implementing
a
trails
assessment
that
will
be
done
at
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year
and
so
we've
added
in
some
potential
funding
to
take
care
of
surface
disruptions,
crack
and
seal
that
type
of
thing.
O
We
also
have
been
doing
a
very
important
cip
condition,
assessment
in
all
the
parks,
and
so
you
will
see
quite
a
few
areas
in
the
budget
where
we
have
very
specific
things
that
we
want
to
replace
around
playground,
equipment,
irrigation
controllers,
signage,
that's
where
you're
seeing
a
lot
of
this
increases,
and
this
is
really
based
on
as
critical,
moderate
and
fair
kind
of
rating
system.
So
we're
really
trying
to
be
smart
about
how
we
ask
for
money.
A
Sorry
I
had
couldn't
find
my
cursor
on
two
different
screens
and
it
wouldn't
transfer
over
and
we
got
a
bunch
of
hands
up,
because
this
is
perks.
Counselor,
lindell,.
G
Thank
you
chair.
Let
me
start
by
thanking
you.
Miss
mcdonald,
for
taking
this
job
on
you've
been
super
super
active
and
super
responsive.
G
It's
very
very
much
appreciated.
I
really
enjoy
working
with
you.
Thank
you
for
being
available
and
all
being
patient
with
what
are
no
doubt
sometimes
seem
like
kind
of
foolish
questions
to
you,
but
you're,
always
so
nice
about
it.
So
another
thing
is,
in
the
last
month,
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
a
couple
of
times
play
some
golf
and
the
course
is
in
terrific
condition.
G
I
I
just
can't
thank
you
enough
or
how
that
has
happened,
it's
in
beautiful
shape,
so
thank
you
very
much.
We've
had
so
much
fun
on
it,
and
everyone
has
commented
that
in
spring
conditions
it's
just
been
amazing,
a
coup,
a
question
that
I
have
that
I
hear
from
people.
A
lot
of
times
is
well.
You
know
the
parks,
employment
numbers
we
used
to
have
like.
G
I
don't
know
what
the
number
is
people
say,
a
hundred
employees,
and
and
now
we
only
have
24,
so
those
are
made
up
numbers,
probably
as
much
made
up
as
the
numbers
that
people
do
say
to
me,
but
give
us
give
us
the
the
real
information
on
that
we're
where
we
are
with
the
number
of
employees
that
we
have
and
how
we're
doing
with
that.
O
Madam
chair
councillor,
lindell
mayor
weber,
city
manager,
we
are
doing
okay
with
our
numbers.
When
people
often
talk
back
in
the
day,
they
usually
use
the
number
110
employees
and
that's
when
we
had
a
cip
locals
crew,
which
was
very
valuable,
but
it
was
basically
funded
with
bond
money,
and
so
we
no
longer
have
that.
So
I
I
would
like
to
correct
people
that
they
were
actually
using
bond
money
to
build
projects
labor.
That
is
right.
Now
we
have,
I
believe,
63
employees.
O
There
are
nine
now
at
the
golf
course-
and
today
is
the
very
first
day
for
our
golf,
our
sports,
complex
manager.
His
name
is
jonathan
weiss,
I'm
so
excited
about
it
I'll,
be
bringing
him
to
you
guys
very
soon,
but
that's
super
exciting
within
parks.
We
have
in
the
actual
crews
that
maintain
maybe
35
a
plus
or
minus
the
seasonal
workers
that
I
mentioned
that
are
going
to
be.
O
20
essentially
equates
to
adding
two
seasonal
workers
per
crew,
I'm
so
that's
going
to
really
bump
up
quite
a
bit
and
then
the
rest
is
pretty
much
administrative
staff
inspections
from
stormwater
now
and
our
project
administrators,
as
well
as
our
operations
manager,
which
has
been
wonderful
to
have
a
real
team,
I'm
I'm
just
thrilled
about
where
we
are
today
as
compared
to
this
time.
Last
year
at
budget
hearing
I
mean
we
really
have
a
team,
so
I'm
excited
about
that.
But
you
know
part
of
our
philosophy.
O
Is
that
coming
out
of
covet
and
having
had
a
recent
reorg
and
it's
a
hard
reorg
to
know
because
it
is
during
a
pandemic?
O
G
So
you
feel
like
the
number,
what
did
you
say?
It
was
100
how
nominees,
but
that
was
bond
money.
O
There
was
a
locals
crew
at
the
time
and
that
locals
crew
was
fun
advanced.
My
understanding
was
and
that
they
were
actually
accomplishing
project
work.
That
was
not
the
way
that
we
do
it
now
now
we
actually
do
cip
with
contractors,
mainly.
G
O
I
think
we're
off
to
a
good
start.
We
have
more
to
do
so
if
anyone's
looking
and
they're
watching,
please
apply
because
we're
advertising,
but
as
routine
I
mentioned
or
miss
director
wheeler
mentioned.
We
have
a
three-pronged
approach.
So
if
we
fall
short
on
the
seasonals
we
do
have,
we
are
prepared
to
do
contract,
labor
or
contracts.
O
You
know
to
accomplish
some
of
the
work
and
in
fact
we
do
intend
on
having
contractors
working
on
the
medians
in
particular,
because
that
worked
very
nicely
to
have
that
kind
of
balance
last
year.
Well,
that's.
G
Terrific
thank
you
very
much
and
again,
thank
you
for
being
willing
to
take
this
job
on
it.
I
really
feel
the
difference
having
you
in
that
position.
Thank
you,
chair.
I
Counselor
cassid,
thank
you
so
much,
madam
chair
and-
and
I
also
I
just
want
to
reiterate
director
mcdonald-
that's
you've.
You've
really
been
just
such
a
pleasure
to
work
with.
I
receive
feedback
from
my
constituents
all
the
time
on
how
responsive
you
are
and
how
much
they've
appreciated
your
work.
In
fact,
I
was
at
an
hoa
meeting
last
night
and
somebody
raised
their
hand
to
specifically
call
out
the
work
that
you
did
on
the
arroyo
after
the
flooding.
I
So
I
really,
I
really
want
to
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
taking
on
this
position.
I
know
it's.
A
lot
parks
are
visible,
they're
important.
They
are
one
of
the
parts
of
our
city
that
we
interact
with
the
most,
maybe
besides
streets.
So
I
I
really
really
want
to
thank
you
for
taking
on
this
position,
and
I
know
that
we
got
a
lot
ahead
of
us
counselor
lindell.
I
Thank
you
for
talking
about
staffing
that
that's
always
a
big
one
here
and
and
understanding
where
we
are
with
the
staffing
positions.
I'm
glad
that
we
have
expanded
staff,
especially
seasonal
staff.
I
know
that
when
it
comes
time
for
weed
season
that
becomes
really
challenging,
so
I
do
actually
want
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
the
steam
weeder,
because
I
think
that
it
is
important.
It's
something
that
frequently
people
forget
that
we
do
not
use
herbicides.
I
We
do
not
use
chemicals
to
maintain
our
weeds,
which
can,
which
means
essentially,
that
we
have
to
have
a
lot
more
person
power
in
order
to
do
it.
So
I
would
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
this
steamweeder,
because
if
I
am
recalling
a
past
conversation
correctly,
this
should
this
could
potentially
be
something
that
can
help
us
mitigate
the
amount
of
actual
person
hours
that
need
to
go
into
taking
care
of
weeds
and
also
allow
us
to
continue
to
not
use
any
sprays.
O
Madam
chair,
mr
mayor
counselors,
mr
city
manager,
yes,
we're
super
excited
about
this.
It's
a
unit
that
you
put
on
the
back
of
a
vehicle.
It
increases
the
temperature
to
above
200
degrees
and
you
manually
spray
it
with
some
foam
and
it
will
actually
kill
back
the
weed
material
and
it's
pretty
simple.
You
know
throwing
hot
water
on
things,
but
it's
really
geared
to
make
sure
that
you
can
target
it
and
really
operate
it
efficiently.
O
So
we're
going
to
start
out
with
a
few
carbs
and
on
the
medians
and
just
see
if
we
have
responsiveness.
My
understanding
is
that
you
kind
of
do
this
and
just
as
you
would
going
through,
the
medians
in
a
cycle
you'll
have
to
go
through
a
cycle,
but
that
it
is
supposed
to
last
four
to
six
weeks
and
it
would
be
having
benefits
along
going.
So
as
you
kill
them,
they
don't
come
back
type
of
thing.
So
we're
very
very
intrigued.
O
We
did
our
research,
we
talked
a
lot
of
other
communities,
but
we're
gonna.
Do
a
little
pilot
project
see
how
it
works
and
we'll
let
you
know
I
mean
we
might
be
buying
a
couple
of
these
units.
I
hope
in
the
future.
I
That's
actually,
I
one
of
my
my
weird
fun
data
questions,
which
is:
how
do
we
evaluate
this
and
so
to
have
you
guys
thought
about
how
you're
going
to
essentially
be
evaluating
whether
it's
worth
the
money?
Because,
if
it
is,
you
know,
obviously
that'll
be
something
that
you
potentially
be
coming
back
to
us
and
we'll
want
to
hear
more
about.
O
Absolutely
so,
I'm
working
with
victor
lucero,
our
ipm
manager
very
closely
on
this,
as
well
as
nathan,
seis
who's,
our
media
crew
and
we
are
going
to
be
tracking
everywhere.
We
apply
this
hot
water
or
hot
this
seam
just
to
how
long
between
each
one
really
we've
been
tracking,
how
long
things
kind
of
come
up
and
down
now.
So
we
want
to
compare
those
two
chart.
Those
two
see
what
the
difference
in
growth
rates
are.
O
I
mean
there
is
some
variability
there,
because
you
know
if
we're
in
a
drought
and
then
it
rains,
things
grow
more
fast
more
quickly,
but
we're
going
to
account
for
all
of
that.
We're
also
really
going
to
be
looking
at
what
it
does
to
the
soil.
Is
it
going
to
sterilize
the
soil,
or
is
it
going
to
keep
it
so
alive?
O
I
mean
they
talk
about
how
it
will
keep
it
still
alive
because
it
cools
pretty
quickly
and
that
micro
celia
will,
you
know,
regenerate
that's
less
of
a
concern
in
our
medians
but
more
of
a
concern
in
our
part.
So
that's
why
we're
really
picking
parks
that
we
know
very
well,
and
we
can
really
monitor
that.
As
I
said,
I'm
less
worried
about
the
medians,
because
we
often
don't
want
things
growing
in
the
medians,
but
in
parks.
I
want
to
be
very
careful
that
we're
not
causing
long-term
damage.
I
Wonderful,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
about
that.
That's
that's
exciting
things
that
we
get
excited
about
at
the
city,
weed
control,
so
the
other
one
that
I
wanted
to
ask
about
was
the
cip
conditions
assessment.
If
you
could
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
that,
I'd
love
to
hear
some
more.
O
Madam
chair,
mr
mayor
counselors,
yes,
this
has
been
a
new
effort.
It's
nothing
rocket
science,
but
it's
just
data
when
I
came
in,
we
didn't
have-
and
maybe
it
had
been
done
a
long
time
ago,
but
we
needed
to
update
it
and
do
it
more
efficiently.
O
So
what
we're
doing
now
is
we
kind
of
went
through
all
of
the
parks
and
I
did
an
inventory
and
have
been
reading
everything
from
critical,
fair
or
critical
moderate
to
fair-
and
you
know,
every
month
we
go
back
now
and
we
upgrade
that
we
continue
to
see
is.
Are
there
other
things
that
are
deficient
and
then
we
write
it
down?
So
these
are
things
like
basketball,
hoops
that
are
broken
drainage
systems
that
need
to
be
repaired,
fences
that
have
fallen
down.
O
I
mean
there's
just
everything
I
mean
you
all
know
it.
You
get
the
calls,
but
this
has
been
helpful
in
coordination
with
the
crm
system,
so
we
do
want
to
we're
kind
of
tracking
our
crms
and
we're
tracking
this.
What
I'm
calling
cip
condition
and
set
improvements,
so
some
of
the
this
will
help
us
do
our
kind
of
operational
funding
request,
as
well
as
the
identify
things
that
are
larger
and
that
can
be
grouped
together
that
we
need
to
go
for
cip
funding.
O
So
that's
kind
of
what
we're
really
targeting
and
we
would
like
to
actually
in
the
future
perhaps
get
this
all
on
a
on
a
bigger
than
an
excel
spreadsheet
and
actually
have
it
on
a
database.
But
you
know
right
now.
We
just
would
like
to
actually
get
the
things
repaired
for
everyone.
I
That's
that's
I.
I
appreciate
that
priority
of
actually
getting
it
prepared.
My
next
question
was
going
to
be.
I
You
know,
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
see
this,
although
it
does
sound
like
it
does
update
on
a
regular
basis,
but
I
would
agree
that
actually
getting
things
fixed
is
its
priority,
but
I
think
at
some
time
it
would
be
really
wonderful
to
see
that
especially
we
do
have
a
lot
of
constituents
who
say:
do
you
know,
do
you
know,
do
you
know
and
I'm
like
I
great
question,
let's
find
out
if.
I
So
having
having
that
ability
to
point
them
in
that
direction,
so
they
can
see
those
things
I
think
would
be
helpful
for
them
as
well
as
for
us,
and
I
really
appreciate
that
you
guys
are
working
on
how
you
can
systematically
continue
to
to
do
maintenance
on
the
parks
and
on
the
parks
equipment.
So
my
other,
my
other
big
question
was
covered
by
councillor
lindell
and
of
course
that
was
staffing.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
going
into
detail
about
that,
and
thank
you
for
being
here
today.
B
P
E
There
you
go
me
too,
just
a
quick
question
for
the
I
was
interested
about
the
graffiti
section
and
that
you'll
be
increasing,
that
or
or
creating
a
team.
So
my
question-
and
I
asked
this
in
esd,
but
they
for
the
esd
budget,
but
they
asked
they
said
that
it'd
probably
be
best
to
ask
you.
So
they
said
they
were
keeping
their
team
in
place
for
their
graffiti
team.
So
I
guess
I
was
just
wondering
how
your
team
will
be
coordinating
with
them
and
then,
where
you
you'll,
be
doing
something
different.
O
Madam
chair
counselor,
via
real
mr
mayor,
mr
city
manager,
that's
an
excellent
question
and
I've
been
working
very
closely
with
esd
to
figure
out
the
best
way
to
break
this
out,
but
essentially
we
will
be
taking
over
on
all
a
city-wide
graffiti.
O
I'm
planning
on
working
very
closely
with
esd
on
more
of
the
educational
aspects
of
it,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
education.
That
folks
need
to
understand,
like
educating,
stores,
about
locking
up
paint
materials
that
folks
get
things
like
that,
so
really
we're
going
to
take
over
the
bulk
of
it,
but
we're
definitely
coordinating
with
them
and
they're,
been
wonderful
to
work
with
in
the
transition
to
plan
this
out.
So
we'll
have
more
information
on
that,
but
I've
been
really
meeting
with
them
quite
a
bit
about
it.
C
A
O
As
far
as
I
understand
counselor,
you
know
we're
we'll
be
getting
directly
the
concerns
from
constituent
services
to
go
out
and
remove
graffiti.
We
are
going
to
be
receiving
a
new
park,
superintendent
for
that
purpose
and
a
director
wheeler
and
has
also
moved
some
parking
folks
over.
So
we
will
have
the
equivalent
of
that.
O
I
do
believe
that
their
administrative
person
is
going
to
continue
to
maintain
the
and
the
educational
aspects
of
graffiti
on
the
keep
santa
fe
beautiful
site,
because
people
are
used
to
going
there
and
they
may
get
some
information.
What
I
don't
know-
and
I
probably
need
to
get
some
information
on-
is
when
you
make
a
complaint-
is
that
going
to
directly
come
to
us
when
you
go
to
that
part
of
the
site?
O
But
we
don't
want
to
confuse
people,
and
I
think
that
we
will
partner
great
with
this,
because
we've
overlapped
in
so
many
ways,
and
so
I
feel
very
comfortable
with
that.
E
A
Sorry,
the
pictures
now
I'm
having
trouble
here
the
pictures
move
around
and
so
I
point
my
cursor
and
then
the
picture
moves
and
anyway
counselor
rivera
and
then
director
wheeler.
We
can
circle
back.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
miss
mcdonald
related
to
graffiti
and
knowing
parks
and
open
space.
There
are
some
really
difficult
areas
to
get
to
so
is
there
going
to
be
any
equipment,
requests
or
needs
that
go
along
with
this
parks
and
open
space
team.
O
Madam
chair
counselors,
mr
mayor,
mr
city
manager,
that's
an
excellent
question.
We
have
put
in
some
requests
for
aerial
lifts.
We
are
going
to
be
getting
some
of
the
all
of
the
equipment
actually
from
esd.
O
We
also
have
put
in
some
specialty
restoration
work
say
if
it
were
to
be
on
a
something
that
more
skilled
than
we
can
take
care
of
things
like
that.
It
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
learning.
I
might
be
back
at
mid-year
and
saying
hey.
This
is
more
than
we
planned
for.
I
did
increase
the
budget
somewhat
to
cover
that
and
I
think
we're
going
to
be
okay,
but
you
know
we
don't
always
know
how
many
people
are
out
there.
O
Deciding
to
you
know,
do
nefarious
things
so,
but
we're
going
to
give,
I
think,
we've
calculated
appropriately.
J
All
right,
so
you
know,
as
you
go
through
this
and
you
find
interesting
situations,
I
think
you
may
need
maybe
some
specialized
equipment
so
just
keep
us
informed
and
let
us
know
what
you
need.
I
think
this
is
a
good
move,
but
I
think
you
may
need
some
additional
stuff
as
you
go
through,
so
let
us
know,
but
thank
you.
A
A
I
think
it
has
been
sort
of
complicated,
at
least
in
my
experience
with
constituents
where
they
write,
and
they
say,
hey,
there's
graffiti
over
here
and
you
gotta
go
all
right
well,
who
owns
the
land
who's,
the
you
know,
so
you
know
where
to
who
to
call
and
what
team's
going
to
go
out,
and
so
I
think
the
the
thinking
around
this
to
to
try
something
new
in
terms
of
staying
on
top
of
it
and
also
doing
something
proactive
by
it.
A
It
is
state
law
right
that
people
under
18
can't
buy
particular
kinds
of
paint.
Is
that
true?
Or
am
I
thinking
of
a
different
state?
Madam
chair,
mr
mayor
counselors,
that
is
correct.
Okay,
and
you
know,
I
think,
just
maybe
channeling
some
of
this
energy
into
some
of
our
art
and
public
places.
Kinds
of
work
too
has
has
been
beneficial
in
the
past
so
anyway.
I
I
just
want
to
add
my
my
two
cents
that
I
think
it's
great
to
think
about
this
in
a
different
way.
All
right.
A
So
I
think
that's
all
we
have
for
you.
I
also
want
to
welcome
you
to
your
new
position.
Also
underscore
what's
already
been
said,
I
so
appreciate
the
hard
work
you've
been
doing.
Your
responsiveness,
you're
you're,
just
getting
stuff
done.
That
really
needs
to
and
just
add
my
voice
to
the
chorus.
So
thank
you.
I
really
appreciate
it
all
right.
We
are
on
to
oh
wait.
I
was
going
to
give
director
wheeler
director
wheeler.
Did
you
want
to?
Can
we
stop
sharing
really
quick.
C
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
chair,
I'm
sorry
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
we
have
understand
that
everybody
would
like
more
visibility
into
what
capital
projects
are
planned
and
what
capital
projects
are
funded
and
what
the
status
of
that
is,
and
so
we're
exciting
to
let
you
know
that
we
are
probably
about
80
percent
done
with
the
new
esri
application
that'll
be
available
to
for
the
governing
body
and
the
public
to
be
able
to
see
what
capital
needs
have
been
identified.
C
Little
bits
of
information
about
scope,
location,
as
well
as
what
capital
projects
are
underway
and
funded,
and
so
it'll
be
a
huge
window
into
a
very
big
part
of
our
business
that
we
all
collaborate
on.
But
it's
hard
to
get
hard
to
see
from
the
outside
now,
and
we
expect
to
be
launching
that
within
the
next
few
months
I
just
want
to.
I
know
it's
super
exciting.
It's
in
esri,
it'll
be
so
cool.
C
C
Yes,
so
this
will
be
director
tomas
martinez,
who
has
been
acting
streets
director
now
for
since
javier
martinez
left
some
time
ago,
a
couple
three
years,
possibly
if
everybody
can
see
director
martinez's
screen,
that's
fantastic
zozobra,
I
think
he's
sitting
in
the
middle
of
a
zozobra.
That's
just
amazing,
so
this
is,
as
I
mentioned
before,
the
combined
complete
streets
division
and,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
synergy
here.
C
That
makes
sense
also
to
mention
I
didn't
mention
it
before,
but
the
engineering
division
was
really
quite
small
with
sort
of
20-ish
employees
25.
So
the
combination
makes
a
division
of
around
60
employees,
which
is
the
right
size
for
a
division.
You'll
see.
The
main
thing
that
you
see
here
is
an
increase
in
this.
In
this
complete
streets
division
for
addressing
our
traffic
signals,
our
traffic
signals
have
been
under
invested
in
for
not
even
just
the
last
three
years,
but
probably
the
last
five
years.
C
C
The
the
signal
shop
has
been
stopped
at
a
level
of
two
of
six
positions
now
for
maybe
two
years,
and
so
we've
been
the
the
new
street
light.
Maintenance
contract
really
helps
that
team
because
they
used
to
do
some
of
the
maintenance
of
the
city-owned
street
lights,
but
we
do
need
to
engage
additional
professional
services
to
offset
the
that
team's
vacancy
rate
we've
been
working
with
hr
on
new
job
descriptions,
new
requirements,
how
to
structure
that
to
try
to
get
staff
in
the
door
in
that
team.
C
But
in
the
meantime
we
need
to
make
sure
that
our
street
markings,
our
signs
and
our
signals
are
all
up
to
par
and
and
that
team
is
supported
to
do
all
the
services
that
are
required
of
that
team.
And
then
that's
my
part
and
then
director
martinez.
Would
you
like
to
add
to
that
sure.
H
H
H
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
a
question
about
the
the
combination
that
you're
doing
with
the
complete
streets
division,
and
I
think
I
think
overall
it
makes
sense.
Complete
streets
is
a
movement.
It's
also
included
in
like
land
use
planning,
and
so
I
guess
my
question
to
you
is
this:
is
dealing
with
the
immediate
needs,
but
is
there
a
component
to
the
complete
streets?
E
C
Much
for
the
question.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
counselor
via
real.
Yes,
yes,
that's
a
huge!
I'm
super
excited
because
I've
been
leading
the
engineering
division,
which
is
the
team
that
does
that
planning
and
implementation,
and
since
that
division
has
been
so
understaffed.
Eric
ani
of
the
mpo
who
is
in
land
use
and
is
another
visionary
in
our
complete
streets
and
multi-modal
transportation
network.
C
So
we've
been
working
closely
in
implementing
more
projects
with
more
sidewalks
and
more
bike
paths
and
more
trails
than
ever
before
in
a
long
long
time
in
the
city
of
santa
fe.
So
we
are
very
closely
there.
I
consider
the
mpo
a
key
part
of
our
engineering
planning
for
the
future
for
our
transportation
network.
C
One
of
the
small
victories
that
we
had
that
I
am
the
representative
to
the
city
to
the
cerrios
road
project,
where
nmdot
is
reconstructing
the
piece
of
roadway
between
st
michaels
and
saint
francis,
and
since
there
is
no
one
in
the
engineering
division,
I'm
a
project
manager
in
that
team,
as
well
as
a
division
director,
and
so
I've
been
representing
the
city
on
that
project
and
we
got
d.o.t
to
change
their
design
significantly
to
add
a
whole
bunch,
more
bike
path,
a
whole
bunch,
more
pedestrian
capacity
in
that
project.
C
So
it's
a
huge
and
that's
why
we
really
wanted
to
call
it
complete
streets
because
really
in
the
in
you
know
only
five
years
ago,
when
I
four
years
ago,
when
I
started
here,
it
wasn't
a
huge
focus
of
either
streets
or
engineering
to
look
at
like
really
multi-modal
pedestrian
roadways.
Right,
that's
what
we
need
right,
bicycles,
everybody
has
to
be
taken
care
of,
and
that
is
a
huge
focus
for
the
team
now
they're
inspired
by
it,
and
so
we
like
to
have
that
name
to
really
demonstrate
our
commitment
to
that.
E
Great
I'm
glad
that
mpo
is
that
connector
to
make
that
make
sense
of
what
what
complete
streets
really
is
holistically
and
for
your,
I
think
you
said
at
the
beginning.
The
other
reason
why
you
decided
to
restructure
was
the
staffing
of
the
leadership
of
one
of
the
positions
of
streets.
C
Yes,
thank
you
for
the
question.
If
you,
it
does
free
up
a
division
director
position
for
us
to
be
able
to
reinstate
the
transit
director
of
administration,
which
is
really
important,
there's
a
lot
of
customer
service.
There
there's
a
lot
of
grants.
There's
a
lot
of
data
analysis.
We
have
regional
partnerships
in
transit,
we
need
to
analyze
our
data
and
talk
to
our
customers.
C
E
Is
transit
presenting
separate
from
complete
streets
today?
Okay,
then
I'll
wait
to
ask
that
question
and
then
you
said
a
little
bit
about
the
contracts,
there's
1.3
million
in
service
or
contracts.
C
Yes,
there's
one
of
the
service
contracts
will
be
for
control
cabinet
replacement
on
the
signals
right.
C
One
of
the
contracts
will
be
for
support
with
locates,
so
locating
services
are
provided
by
the
team
that
doesn't
have
any
staff
so
we'll
be
having
a
professional
services.
Help
us
with
that.
Also
inside
this
division.
Now
are
the
responsibility
for
drt
review
and
traffic.
Calming
requests,
there's
contracts
for
that,
as
well
as
traffic
engineering
as
needed,
and
then
we
did
add
something
that
hasn't
been
funded
for
some
time,
which
is
actual
funds
for
traffic
studies
associated
with
traffic
calming
requests.
E
C
E
Q
Thank
you,
madam
chair
director,
wheeler.
I
have
a
a
question
for
you.
If
I
am
a
resident
of
new
mexico
and
I'm
interested
in
what
counselor
vrel
referenced
as
the
complete
streets
movement,
what
other
communities
have
a
complete
streets?
Division
in
their
organizations.
C
Q
So
we
would
actually
be
setting
a
new
landmark
here
by
creating
this
division
and
trying
to
bring
this
movement
to
fruition
in
santa
fe,
combining
the
different
planning
capabilities,
engineering
capabilities
and
a
multimodal
philosophy.
No,
nobody
else
to
your
knowledge
has
yet
to
do
this
in
new
mexico.
A
Thank
you
mayor.
I
don't
see
any
more
questions
so
we'll
go
on
to
our
last
section,
which
is
transit.
H
Would
be
me
so
this
budget
will
fund
121
positions
here
at
transit
as
we
can
fill
them,
as
you
know,
we're
we're
having
issues
filling
positions,
but
that's
nationwide,
and
that
includes
13,
fixed
routes,
a
downtown
circular
and
our
ada
curb
to
curb
service,
and
we
have
five
five
city
sponsored
events
that
we
do,
and
this
is
a
critical
critical.
How
could
I
put
it?
H
It's
critical
for
us
to
be
able
to
offer
the
residents
and
the
visitors
a
full-on
multi-modal
transit
for
them
to
get
around
for
the
people
that
absolutely
need
it
and
the
people
that
choose
to
use
it.
A
Yeah,
I
might
have
to
pin
your
your
little
photo
there
it
it's
rather
interesting,
you're
coming
out
of
zozobra's
mouth.
It
looks
like
all
right.
I
will
do
that.
While
we
entertain
questions
from
the
committee.
E
Via
rail,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
It
is
hard
to
see
if
tomas
all
the
way
at
the
other
end
of
the
table
in
zozobra's
mouth.
So
I
know
you're
there
just
a
question
about
your
the
fairs.
We
used
to
have
free
fares
for
18,
I
think,
and
under
yes
and
and
there
were
other
subsidies
for
certain
certain
groups,
do
we
still
have
those
in
place?
No,
we
have
since
gone
back.
H
To
charging
our
fares,
which
is
a
dollar
for
a
one-way
trip
or
two
dollars
for
all
day,
okay
having
the
free
fare,
proved
to
be
quite
challenging
with
people
just
riding
around,
and
it's
it's
been
kind
of
a
movement
across
the
country
where
several
transits
have
realized
that
free
fare
isn't
really
the
way
to
go.
H
We
do
work
with
several
organizations,
so
they
can
get
discounted
passes
for
people
that
are
in
need
and
they
hand
them
out.
Okay,
that
is
that
has
seemed
to
work
the
best
so
far
for
us.
E
Okay,
so
there's
still
the
discounted
there's
still
the
discounted
program,
yes
and
then
18
and
under
is
not
free
anymore.
You
said
no
18
and
under
is
still
free
and
sad,
so
is
what
so
is
veterans
veterans?
Okay,
that
was
the
question:
okay
veterans
and
under
18,
yes,
yeah,
the
only
change
was
general
affairs
got
it.
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
A
E
To
approve
the
public
works
department
budget
with
all
the
various
divisions,
and
the
only
amendment
is
to
increase
the
special
events
for
the
rail
yard
operations
to
75k,
since
it
gets
enacted
actually
in
july
of
it
starts
in
july,
which
is
our
fiscal
year
23.
So
there's
plenty
of
time
to
wait
for
the
other
funding
source
that
we
were
told
is
supposed
to
be
coming.
So
I
think
that
putting
in
the
budget
now
saves
staff
from
trying
to
do
budget
adjustments
later.
A
A
Okay
and
then
I
did
see
the
city
attorney's
hand
rise
or
raised,
and
I
guess
part
one
of
my
first
concerns
is
this
has
to
be
a
balanced
budget,
which
means
what
we
say:
we're
spending
and
what
we
say.
The
money
we
have
right
now
has
to
match
and
our
budget.
A
As
I
understand
it,
is
due
to
the
state
by
the
end
of
director
mccoy
help
me
may,
madam
chair,
the
budget
is
due
to
dfa
by
the
end
of
may,
by
the
end
of
may,
so
with
that
we
really
can't
do
what
you're
talking
about
counselor
and
I'm
going
to
defer
to
the
city
attorney,
because
I
also
think
you
you
have
to
identify
not
just
some
sort
of
future
revenue
that
we
may
or
may
not
have.
A
But
I
think
you
also
in
this
moment
with
the
with
the
money
we
have,
you
would
have
to
say
I
want
to
take
25
000
from
somewhere
else
in
the
pot
of
monies
that
we
have
today,
as
we
are
passing
this
budget
and
city
ma
city
attorney
mcsherry.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
add
to
that
or
provide
some
guidance
for
us.
R
Chairwoman,
romero
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
to
suggest
that
any
time
we
make
a
increase
that
it
we
should
just
identify
where
it's
coming
from
either,
if
it's
reducing
another
category
or
if
it's
reducing
our
reserve
or
if
it's
reducing
another
budget
for
a
different
department,
something
like
that,
because
otherwise
it
doesn't
really
make
sense,
because
otherwise
you're
increasing
expenditures
without
knowing
where
the
funds
coming
from
so
it's
kind
of
like
it.
Just
it
just
doesn't
make
sense
as
a
motion
in
a
budget
without
having
a
source
of
funds.
A
Councilwoman
raleigh,
your
hand
is
up,
so
is
councillor
rivera's
I
don't
know.
I
understand
this
is
your
motion,
so
I
don't
know
if
you
have
a
question
or
you
want
us
to
go
and
now
we
have
director
mccoy's
hand.
E
I
just
had
a
question.
I
had
a
question.
I
think
director
wheeler
said
that
they
would
make
budget
adjustments
at
what
point
when
you
said
early
fiscal
year,
23
that
didn't
make
sense
to
me
because
to
me
early
means
at
the
beginning
july
august,.
C
F
Director
mccoy,
do
you
want
to
take
a
stab
at
that?
Madam
chair
counselor?
Yes,
I
can
just
provide
some
insight
to
what
occurred
in
the
rail
yard
budget
this
year,
the
real
as
sam
mentioned,
the
rail
yard
allocation
for
these
special
events.
I
believe
that
the
total
is
actually
76
000
at
the
current
time.
F
Originally,
the
budget
was
set
at
forty
thousand
and
then
the
there
was
interest
in
adding
to
that
budget,
because
we
have
one
vacant
position:
project
administrator
position:
that's
been
vacant
for
the
entire
fiscal
year,
we
were
able
to
do
a
budget
adjustment
to
move
36
000
from
salaries
to
fund
those
contracts,
and
I
have
seen
mr
burnett
not
his
head
and
that
happened
within.
F
I
want
to
say
the
last
month
month
and
a
half
or
so,
and
so
that
is
an
example
of
how,
at
some
point
in
the
fiscal
year,
if
they're,
we
always
talk
about
at
this
point
in
time,
that
the
budget
is
a
plan
and
then
that
plan
may
change
if
there
is
a
particular
position
that
we
cannot
fill
for
or
funding
is
available
or
the
priority
shift
in
the
year
as
they
did
this
year,
there
was
a
priority
put
on
restoring
those
special
events.
F
J
F
Additional
guidance,
additional
information,
light
on
where
we
were
at
last
year
at
this
time
what
the
budget
was
originally
set
at
for
railyard
and
then
how
we
were
able
to
accommodate.
I
think
it
has
been
stated
that
these
events
are
a
priority
for
the
city,
and
we
hear
that
loud
and
clear.
E
So,
just
to
follow
up
on
that
when
we
talk
about
the
budget
adjustment
then
early
on
early,
I
think
what
was
it
early
beginning
of
fiscal
year
23.?
So
are
we
talking
about
july
august
that
we'd
know
when
there
would
be
a
potential
for
budget
adjustment,
because
we
would
know
more
about
revenues
coming
in?
There
may
be
some
changes,
like
you
said
in
the
budget
with
say
some
things
didn't
come
to
fruition.
Does
that
is
that
what
you're
referring
to
early
in
the
budget
fiscal
year,
23.
A
F
We
do
not,
for
example,
we
do
not
receive
the
first
gross
receipts
tax
report
from
the
new
mexico
taxation
revenue
department
for
the
month
of
july
until
september.
However,
so
generally,
the
budget
adjustments
that
are
done
in
the
month
of
july
are
carry
forwards
for
capital
for
grant
funding
that
are
moving
from.
You
know
the
multi-year,
by
its
nature,
projects,
capital
projects,
grant
funding.
Those
are
usually
the
budget
adjustments
that
we
see
in
the
first
in
july
and
august
when
it
comes
to
september.
F
E
I
think,
in
this
case,
for
the
railyard
events
there
was,
it
was
budgeted
for
75,
000
and
then
covet
hit,
and
then
they
weren't
able
to
do
programming.
So
then
they
were
reduced.
E
The
amount,
like
you
said,
40
000
and
then
we're
able
to
make
up
the
difference,
but
the
difference
was
made
up
a
lot
later
and
they
were
already
scrambling
to
make
sure
that
they
had
events
that
were
already
in
place
to
be
able
to
to
support
those,
and
this
is
to
create
free
events
for
our
public,
not
because
they
just
want
to
charge
everybody
for
it.
These
are
free
events
and
it's
essentially,
the
equipment
needed
to
make
these
events
happen.
So
I
guess
my
question,
I
I
wouldn't
it's
not
my
question.
E
My
concern
is
waiting
till
december
or
january
to
make
that
budget
adjustment
and
that's
what
I
don't
want
to
see,
because
then
it
pushes
everything
back
and
there's
no
commitments
that
can
be
made
for
those
events
which
puts
everybody
in
a
quandary,
including
the
people
having
the
events
trying
to
figure
out.
Well
we're
going
to
have
it
or
not.
So
that's
what
worries
me
that
delay
and
I
understand
about
budget
adjustments
and
it
has
to
come
from
something
else.
E
That's
not
what
I'm
trying
to
do
is
like
reduce
something
that
we
all
feel
think
other
people
might
think
is
more
important.
So,
but
I'm
gonna
give
the
floor
for
now
to
hear
from
my
colleagues
thanks.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
councillor,
rivera.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Miss
wheeler.
You
said
our
director
wheeler.
You
said
that
you
would
find
the
funding
for
this
at
some
point
throughout
the
fiscal
year.
Where
were
you
thinking
about
getting
the
money
from.
C
J
You
had
mentioned
that
you
would
find
the
additional
funding
for
this
as
the
fiscal
year
goes
on.
So
where
were
some
of
your
ideas
for
coming
up
with
funding.
C
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
question.
Madam
chair
council
rivera.
I
actually
had
spoken
with
director
mccoy
and
we
felt
that
there
would
be
the
opportunity
to
identify
grt.
C
You
know
actually,
given
the
size
of
the
public
works
budget,
I
would
be
happy
to
commit
to
making
a
transfer
within
our
budget
somewhere
that
it
won't
hurt
any
levels
of
service
to
fund
this.
I
should
have
said
that
sooner
so
I'd
be
happy
to
make
that
transfer
right
away
to
make
sure
that
sam
has
that
and
that's
a
that
would
be
a
bar
or
a
t-bar.
C
The
bar
would
be
assignable
by
city
managers
due
to
the
size
and
the
t-bar
could
be
done
by
the
department
if
it
stays
within
the
division.
So
we'd
be
happy
to
cover
that
with
the
transfer.
J
Okay
and
then
just
to
comment,
I
mean,
if
there's
no
flexibility
in
the
budget,
no
really
way
of
doing
anything
different
then
really.
This
is
just
an
informational
session
for
them
the
last
five
days
and
going
forward
so
really
not
sure
what
we're
really
doing
here,
except
just
kind
of
listening
and
expected
just
to
kind
of
pass
without
really
making
any
or
giving
any
ideas
or
really
giving
any
input,
because
there's
no
flexibility
there
so
not
really
sure
what
we're
doing.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
councillor,
cassid.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
my
questions
may
be
moot
at
this
point.
I
If
you
know
because
one
of
my
concerns
was
if
the
budget
adjustment
was
going
to
come
so
late
in
the
game
that
it
was
going
to
to
impact
programming
as
it's
happening,
and
I
suppose
that
my
question,
which
might
not
be
valid
anymore
since
director
wheeler,
mentioned
that
in
july,
once
a
new
fiscal
year
starts,
she
can
do
a
t-bar
or
a
bar
to
get
that
money
in,
but
really
that
conversation
you
know
this
is
a
little
bit
more
challenging
because
we
are
not
ourselves
the
city's,
not
providing
the
programming.
I
It
is
with
an
outside
party
with
the
rail
yard
conservancy.
So
I
was
just
curious
about
that
conversation
and
the
interaction
with
the
rail
yard
conservancy
and
their
ability
to
really
let
us
know,
timing
of
programs.
I
would
also
imagine
that
programming
is
more
prevalent
in
the
summer
months.
Am
I
correct
there
or
is
there
programming
at
the
same
level
all
year?
So
I
know
that
was
a
number
of
questions
all
in
one
and
sam.
I
imagine
you
are
the
gentleman
to
answer
those
questions
for
me.
Absolutely.
D
Madam
chair
counselor
cassette
just
a
quick
clarification,
though
the
rail
yard
park.
Conservancy,
is
the
entity
that
provides
horticultural
care
in
the
park.
This,
the
santa
fe
rail
yard
community
corporation,
is
the
entity
who
manages
co-manages
the
property
with
us
and
provides
the
entertainment
just
it's
it's
it's
more
complicated.
P
D
It's
it's
confusing.
I
just
received
the
tentative
schedule
for
the
next
fiscal
year's
events
from
their
director
of
events
sandy
bryce
you're,
absolutely
right.
The
bulk
of
the
events
are
in
the
warmer
seasons
or
season
and
yeah.
I
would
be
happy
to
forward
that
along
to
all
the
counselors
to
take
a
look
at
so
you
have
a
sense
of
of
what
that
75
000
covers.
D
There
is
a
very
robust
event
schedule
and
it
also
provides
a
certain
amount
of
that.
Funding
also
goes
to
marketing
for
the
events
and
the
rail
yard
as
a
whole.
As
a
point
of
clarification
for
you,.
I
D
Madam
chair
counselor
cassette,
I
have
not
received
the
breakdown
of
the
cost
of
the
events
yet,
but
we're
still
in
the
planning
stages,
and
I
will
receive
that
in
the
near
future
and
that
standard
practice
is
to
give
us
a
breakdown
of
you
know
how
much
it
costs
for
a
concert.
You
know
to
set
up
the
stage
provide
sound
or
for
a
movie
event
in
the
park.
It
is
all
broken
down
for
us.
Wonderful.
I
And
I
would
also,
and
and
also
when
that
money
has
to
be-
you
know
if
they
have
to
put
down
funds
to
reserve
their
contractors.
I
imagine
that
full
payment
comes
so
understanding.
What
that
looks
like
where
their
budget
is
now,
I
think,
can
help
us
understand
when
that
transfer
does
need
to
happen.
I
I
am
willing,
I
you
know,
I
trust
director
wheeler
and
saying
I
will
make
sure
that
this
money
is
there,
because
it
is
something
that
it
is
of
such
high
interest,
even
though
it
does
not
need
to
go
out
to
us.
I
think
notification
that
that
has
happened
would
be
really
helpful
and
sam.
I
I
would
really
absolutely
appreciate
that
schedule
of
events,
as
well
as
when
you
do
get
that
breakdown
of
when
funds
are
needed
in
their
account,
so
that
they
can
expend
them
would
be
really
helpful
to
see
as
well,
and
I
think
just
because
this
is
such
an
important
thing
that
we
do
have
a
lot
of
interest
in.
I
Although
the
dollar
amount
is
low,
the
value
is
high,
so
so
information
that
we
can
get
on
that
and
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
if
we
need
to
come
back
to
the
table
at
some
point
and
and
make
some
choices,
because
that's
how
I'm
understanding
this
at
this
point,
we
do
have
a
balanced
budget
right
now
with
what
it
is
presented.
I
We
do
have
the
ability
to
make
changes,
but
it
really
does
mean
that
if
we
want
to
add
something
we
have
to
decide
where
it
is
that
we're
cutting,
which
is
challenging
because
that
that
means
you
know,
that's,
we
don't
have
a
finance
to
have
to
do
that
analysis
for
us,
and
so
you
know,
and
and
our
current
finance
committee
or
our
finance
staff
has
you
guys
have
a
lot
going
on.
So
I
I
recognize
that
that
is
it's
a
big
heavy
staff
lift.
I
But
I
do
think
that
this
is
important
for
us
to
have
that
information
on
hand,
so
that
we
can
can
really
look
at
that
and
make
those
decisions.
So
much.
D
Absolutely
chair.
D
Counselor
cassette
sorry,
my
my
brain
is
slowing
down.
I
also
want
to
just
quickly
point
out
that
our
the
way
we
pay
vendors
is,
you
know
we
issue
a
po
and
it's
reimbursed
for
services
rendered,
and
you
know
if,
if,
if
this
debate,
if
we
end
up
with
an
uncertain
path
forward
in
the
immediate
like
at
the
moment,
we
can
always
write
the
contract
in
a
way
that
allows
us
to
increase
the
size
of
the
po
as
more
funding
becomes
available.
D
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
and
and
councillor
I
we
we
do
need
to
move
on.
I
think
director
wheeler
has
said
she
will
make
the
necessary
level
of
funding
happen
internally
with
the
new
budget
in
the
new
budget
year.
So
I
do
want
to
draw
our
attention
to
the
time
we
still
have
two
very
important
conversations
or
budgets
to
deal
with,
and
so
I
will
go
back
to
councilwoman
via
rael,
because
she
has
her
hand
up.
But
again
we
do
need
to
move
on
here.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
couldn't
find
the
ray's
hand
just
to
clarify
counselor
cassette.
Their
programming
goes
from
may
to
december,
so
it's
not
just
in
the
summer
and
so
it's
spring
summer
and
fall,
and
there
is
a
budget
out
there
that
actually
breaks
down
all
the
necessary
needs
for
and
how
it
that
75
000
is
actually
being
used
and
the
contracts
that
will
need
to
be
secured
to
be
able
to
make
those
things
happen.
E
A
I
don't
know
that
you
need
to
put
that
in
motion.
I
don't
know
whether
that's
appropriate.
I
need
guidance
from
either
director
mccoy
or
the
city
attorney's
office.
I
think
you've
been
told
by
the
director
of
this
department
that
she
will
make
that
transfer.
C
Madame
chair
and
counselor
brielle,
if
I
could
too
it
may
be
a
bar,
because
I'm
actually
imagining
that
the
place
that
has
quite
a
bit
of
contractual
services
funds
is
the
engineering
division
or
the
complete
streets,
and
that
would
be
so
via
an
actual
bar
signed
by
the
city
manager
quite
possibly
but
deferred.
A
city
attorney
mcsherry.
R
Thank
you,
city
attorney,
chair
owner
of
merrell
worth.
I.
I
think
that
anything,
that's
typically
under
the
authority
of
a
manager
would
not
be
on
the
agenda
for
today.
So
that
would
be
really
an
operational
choice
that
the
division
director
has
to
make
is
a
t-bar.
So
that
type
of
thing
it's
not
in
the
council's
tool
box
really.
E
R
R
Any
future
say
that
again,
any
future
actions
like
plans
for
what
the
governing
body
will
do
or
what
the
departments
will
do
in
the
future.
Beyond
setting
the
budget
for
this
department
for
fiscal
year,
23
is
not
an
action
on
the
agenda.
Okay,.
A
I
think
we
just
need
a
clean
motion
to
approve
this
agenda
to
approve
this
budget,
and
then
we
can
work
on
assuring
that
the
funding
gets
transferred
down
the
road.
Okay.
E
I
guess
I
didn't
finish
it
so
approve
the
public
works
department,
budget
and
the
division
requests.
Is
there
a
second
second.
A
Yes,
all
right,
we
will
keep
an
eye
on
that
and
make
sure
that
it
gets
funded
at
the
level
that's
needed
in
order
to
provide
for
the
events
that
are
so
valuable
to
this
community.
Just
real
quick
comment,
I
think,
as
a
finance
committee,
we
absolutely
with
three
votes
here
and
five
votes
at
governing
body
can
change
priorities,
but
we
have
to
be
very
clear
about
what
we're
doing
the
motion
has
to
say.
A
So
with
that
we're
going
to
go
back
to
the
human
resources
budget,
I
would
like
to
from
the
start,
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
this
budget.
Much
like
we
do.
We
have
spent
some
time
on
it.
We
are
familiar
with
it
and
then
we
can
have
discussion
about
what
it
contains.
A
Would
you
say
that
chair
you
want
a
motion?
I
would
like
a
motion
to
approve
this
budget
moved.
Is
there
a
second
all?
Second
for
the
purposes
of
discussion,
so
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
this
budget.
There
is
a
second,
I
know
I
I'm
assuming
there
are.
A
There
is
conversation
further
conversation
that
this
committee
is
interested
in
having
perhaps
further
information,
I
will
remind
us
it's
3
15.
We
do
have
this
and
one
other
budget
to
do
today.
That
should
be
plenty
of
time
as
as
long
as
we're
being
cognizant
of
the
time
so
with
that
is
there
discussion
of
this
motion.
E
Councilwoman
via
rail,
madam
chair,
there
was
information
that
we
requested
from
human
resources
department
that
was
supposed
to
be
presented
and
that's
why
we
delayed
this,
and
so
that's
what
I
was
waiting
for.
I
don't
know
about
anybody
else.
Okay
and
the
counselor
cassette
wasn't
here.
So
I
don't
know
if
she
had
any
additional
questions.
A
So
I'll,
let
her
raise
her
hand.
Was
there
something
specific
that,
because
I
think
there
was
some
agreement
to
provide
information,
may
have
been
provided
directly
to
the
counselors
asking
the
questions.
Is
there
something
specific
you're
interested
in?
I
I
think
we
can.
You
know
again.
We
we
can
have
further
discussion.
We
can
provide
further
information.
I
just
think
I
just
need
some
direction
as
to
what
specifically
you
would
like
to
know
about,
and.
E
A
A
T
Madam
chart,
if
I
may,
I
think
the
requested
information
from
counselor
via
real
was
the
bilingual
incentive
language
and
the
ask
me
contract
and
in
the
police
contract.
So
I
can
certainly
get
that
over.
It's
actually
on
our
intranet,
but
I
can
snip
the
that
piece
out
and
send
it
to
you
as
we're
talking
those
those
were
the
notes
that
I
had
as
far
as
your
request.
T
A
E
Talked
a
little
bit
about
why
it
was
under
human
resources
and
in
particular
instead
of
housing
or
affordable
housing,
and
so
I
was
wondering
if
director
salazar
could
talk
about
the
plan
for
even
though
that's
not
your
expertise
in
this
area.
What
are
your
steps
to
be
able
to
make
this
program
like?
How
are
you
going
to
be
able
to
set
it
up
within
your
department,
or
is
it
going
to
be
handed
over
to
affordable
housing
to
set
to
create
the
infrastructure.
T
Madam
chair
council,
via
rail,
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
multi-department
effort
to
get
this
going.
I
think
it's
a
really
good
program
for
our
employees,
so
it
will
require
the
work
of
hr
director
lad
our
city
attorney's
office,
finance
director.
So
I
think
it's
going
to
require
collaboration
among
several
departments
to
get
this
going.
E
The
one
thing
that
was,
I
thought
about
later
that
worried
me
is
that
if
this
is
under
your
department,
then
it
becomes
what's
considered
a
benefit,
and
so
then
it
wouldn't
be
able
to
be
directed
just
towards
emergency
response
responders.
So
how
are
you
structuring
it
so
that
it
doesn't
fall
under
like
an
equity
issue?
T
A
I
see
the
city
manager's
hand
is
up
councilwoman.
Would
you
like
to
hear
from
him
please
city
manager,
belair.
R
R
So
I
think
that
is
that's
just
one
of
the
the
questions
we'll
have
to
address,
and
we've
we've
hired
contract
tax
counsel
before
to
help
us
make
sure
we
comply
with
that
type
of
question
so
or
that
type
of
regulation.
So
we
would
definitely
do
that
on
this
question
as
well.
E
Okay,
so
I
guess,
because
not
everything
is
fleshed
out,
it's
a
new
program.
It
may
not
necessarily
shouldn't
be,
or
maybe
it
should
be
in
human
resources.
There's
going
to
be
partners
from
the
outside
there'll
be
service
providers
that
would
be
able
to
administer
that.
So
that's
like
another
aspect
of
it.
We
already
do
it
now
with
the
affordable
housing
office.
So
I
don't
see
that
as
a
problem.
E
I
think
what
I'm
as
I
had
expressed
before,
that
this
budget
and
this
amount
isn't
enough
anyway,
but
that
it
should
be
accessible
to
all
staff,
not
just
emergency
responders.
E
I
think,
as
I
had
said
before,
that
other
staff
is
also
essential
and,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
as
many
staff
people
as
possible
being
able
to
live
in
this
in
the
city.
There
are
other
possibilities,
however,
in
talking
with
staff,
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
look
at
other
ways
to
make
preference
for
that.
We
have.
E
We
have
a
bunch
of
down
payment
assistance,
monies
that
goes
to
they
go
to
homewise
and
the
housing
trust,
but
you
can't
put
in
stipulations
that
they
have
to
give
preference
to
city
staff,
and
so
that's
not
going
to
work
out
that
at
first
the
mayor-
and
I
were
talking
thinking
about-
oh
well-
maybe
that's
another
way
we
could
provide
support,
but
that
doesn't
look
like
we
could
write
that
into
the
contract.
E
There's
other
ways
like
marketing
the
city
staff,
but
that's
really
superficial.
So
since
we're
starting
off
with
only
the
small
amount
of
750
000
and
it's
only
going
to
part
of
our
staff.
I
would
like
to
consider
this
a
pilot
for
six
months
and
I
say
six
months
starting
fiscal
year,
23
so
in
july.
So
staff
has
enough
time
from
now,
until
the
next,
the
beginning
of
fiscal
year,
23
to
be
able
to
work
out
the
kinks
and
figure
out
the
legal.
E
If
there's
any
legal
issues
and
set
up
the
infrastructure
and
there's
already
criteria
that
these
nonprofit
groups
that
we
fund
have
in
place
that
we
can
utilize.
So
I
don't
think
we
need
a
full
year
to
figure
that
out.
So
I'd
like
this
to
be
considered
a
pilot
so
that
six
months
we
can
evaluate
and
see
how
many
people
are
in
the
program
that
means
in
the
they
have
to
go
through
a
training
which
is
a
few
weeks
depending
on
how
long
you
want
to
it's
up
to
you
as
an
individual.
E
A
Do
we,
I
don't
know
who
to
we
have
other
questions
from
the
committee,
but
I
do
think
we
need
to
talk
about
that
idea,
and
I
don't
know
who
is
best
to
address
is
six
months
the
appropriate
time.
Would
it
be
better
to
have
a
pilot
for
a
year.
We
are
in
a
budget
cycle,
so
we
can
only
really
you
know
we
can't
really
say
with
this
budget.
A
You
know
it's
a
two-year
pilot
and
then,
after
that
you
know,
we've
got
to
work
within
the
the
budget
cycle,
we're
in
which
is
one
year.
So
I
I
don't
know
whether
six
months
or
a
year
is
a
is
a
better
window
or-
and
I
don't
know
who
can
who
should
answer
that
and
I
see
a
couple
hands
up.
I'm
gonna
go
to
the
city
attorney.
R
R
A
Okay,
mayor
your
hand,
is
up.
Q
Thank
you.
I
will
take
my
hand
down,
so
I
don't
forget
later.
I
think
I
agree
with
councilwoman
virial
that
we
should
regard
this
as
a
pilot,
because
we're
trying
something-
and
we
want
to
see
how
it
works.
A
couple
of
other
data
points.
We
had
a
discussion
earlier
about
what
the
possible
uptake
on
this
would
be
and
to
the
credit
of
our
fire
union
leader
and
our
fire
chief.
They
did
a
quick
poll
among
the
firefighters
in
the
union
and
it
was
a
very
strong
response
of
interest.
Q
I
also
as
councilwoman
viral
has
done,
since
our
last
meeting
have
spoken
with
a
number
of
different
folks
and
one
of
the
possible
partners
in
this,
as
and
as
councilman
varela
pointed
out.
Homewise
is
a
partner
already
with
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund,
they're,
saying
that
probably
given
our
housing
prices
and
our
interest
rate
situation
right
now,
we're
looking
at
something
like
a
50
000
assistance
per
person
to
help
people
get
into
a
home,
which
means
we
have
in
750
000
in
this
pilot
enough
for
15
people
to
participate.
Q
We
know
that
the
response
on
the
poll
from
just
the
firefighters,
never
mind
police
suggests
a
very
good
interest,
which
is
exactly
what
we
want.
We
want
those
first
responders
to
be
living
in
our
community,
so
they'll
be
part
of
the
community.
They'll
be
accessible
to
the
community,
they'll
be
present
on
a
rapid
basis,
they'll
be
embedded
in
our
community.
Q
It
seemed
to
me
when
I
spoke
to
her
that
with
the
contracts
we
have,
we
can
certainly
indicate
that
we
want
our
partners
to
track
how
many
city
employees
participate
in
the
mortgage
benefit
assistance
that
that
we
make
available
through
our
funds
through
those
partners.
We
can
ask
them
to
advance
that
as
a
priority.
Q
We
can
say
that,
because
of
the
emphasis
in
our
community
that
I'm
hearing
from
constituents
that
they
really
would
like
to
see
first
responders
close
at
hand
and
in
in
the
neighborhood
as
a
demonstration
of
our
commitment
to
public
safety
as
a
priority,
this
pilot
can
focus
on
that
and,
at
the
same
time,
the
funds
that
we
make
available
already
through
our
existing
relationships
with
our
partners
for
mortgage
assistance,
we
can
add
a
emphasis
so
that
city
employees
in
general
would
become
more
a
focus
of
the
funds
that
we're
making
available.
Q
I
do
think
it
will
take
a
certain
amount
of
time
to
get
this
program
up
and
running
and
to
give
it
a
chance
to
succeed,
and
our
my
goal
at
least
is
in
including
this
in
the
budget
was
very
much
to
see
it
succeed.
I
want
more
first
responders
close
at
hand.
I
think
the
public
wants
that.
I
think
our
residents
want
that
and
frankly,
looking
at
that
fire
pole
from
the
firefighters,
I
think
they
want
it
and
we
did
not
have
an
opportunity
to
extend
that
same
survey
quite
yet
to
all
of
our
police.
Q
But
I
did
send
the
firefighter
responses
to
director,
ochoa
and
chief
joy
and
I
think,
we'll
get
more
data.
It's
a
little
bit
of
a
back
of
an
envelope
data
set,
it's
not
a
hard
data
set,
but
it
is
quite
different
from
the
original
kind
of
opinion
that
was
offered,
which
was
folks
wouldn't
be
interested.
Quite
the
contrary.
There
was
a
a
very
large
interest
and
a
very
immediate
interest
to
this
kind
of
a
an
offer
from
the
city.
So
I'm
I'm.
Q
We've
seen
all
over
the
country
a
big
focus
on
crime
in
cities.
There's
a
piece
in
the
washington
post
this
morning
that
across
america,
people
are
looking
at
the
rates
of
crime
and
and
the
feelings
about
security
in
cities
in
every
part
of
our
our
country,
and
I
think
we
ought
to
be
cognizant
of
that
as
well.
A
Okay,
we
have
other
questions
from
committee
members,
councillor
cassette.
I
Thank
you
so
much
madam
chair,
so
I
did
have
the
opportunity
to
to
watch
the
the
budget
hearing
the
other
day,
so
I
don't
have
too
many
additional
questions.
I
believe
I
just
want
to
reiterate.
This
will
be
coming
to
us
as
a
contract.
I
So
a
lot
of
these
details
that
I
know
that
we
are
kind
of
going
around
in
terms
of
how
much
and
who
qualifies
and
exactly
why
they
qualify
and
what
you
know
that
will
we
will
have
the
chance
to
really
dig
into
that
when
the
contract
comes
to
us
correct,
I
don't
know
who
I'm
speaking
to
mary,
maybe
I'm
talking
to
you
burn
am
I
am
I
correct
in
that
understanding
that
right
now
we're
allocating
dollars
and
really
that
fine
print
we
will
have
the
chance
to
iron
over
when
the
contract
comes
to
us.
F
Madam
chair
counselor,
the
intent,
I
believe,
as
was
stated
previously,
is
to
work
with
a
community
partner
to
assist
us
with
this
in
the
event
that
the
contract
with
the
community
partner
partner
partners,
I
guess
there
are
multiple
agencies
that
could
do
this.
If
the
contractors
the
contract
is
valued
at
200,
000
or
or
greater,
that
would
come
before
the
council
again.
I
Okay,
well,
given
that
this
is
750
000
and
I
believe,
unless
we
were
doing,
I
can't
do
math
three
contracts
or
more
than
this
should
be
coming
to
us.
You
know.
I
think
that
as
councilwoman
beta
rail
mentioned,
this
is
absolutely
a
pilot.
While
I
understand
that
we
need
to
allocate
the
dollars
for
the
entire
year,
I
do
also
agree
with
the
six-month
check-in
to
see
how
this
program
is
going
and
that
doesn't
give
us
the
option
to
do
a
budget
adjustment
or
to
change
a
contract.
I
R
Madam
chair,
I'm
happy
to
jump
in,
and
maybe
mary
will
have
more,
I'm
not
sure
so,
I'm
guessing
we're
gonna
have
to
go
to
rfp
for
this
type
of
a
community
partnership
or
at
least
describe
some
sort
of
scope
of
work
so
depending
on
which
department
it
comes
from
that
department
would
be
doing
that
initial
scope
of
work,
so
those
terms
would
be
issued
out
to
the
public
and
anything.
That's
in
the
competitive,
solicitation
or
scope
of
work
would
not
be
something
we
could
change.
R
It
could
potentially
be
further
refined
later,
but
if
there
is
specifics
that
anyone
that
counsels
interested
in
defining
as
a
pilot
program,
I
think
that
could
be
done
as
a
policy
document
on
that.
On
that
subject.
Okay.
I
I
mean
I'm
just
thinking
about
our
affordable
housing
trust
fund
and
we
just
made
an
amendment
to
that
contract
to
change
the
the
the
amount
of
down
payment
assistance.
Given
our
housing
market.
I
think
we
went
from
what
30
to
80.,
and
so
it
it
does
seem
like
based
on
precedence,
that
there
is
room
to
make
some
changes
there,
and
I
think
the
big
question
is
here.
You
know
eligibility
in
terms
of
employment
status.
A
Counselor,
if
I
could
too,
I
mean
I
think,
in
terms
of
this
committee,
we
can
schedule
updates
on
this
program
on
this
pilot
project
as
it
gets
underway
to
see
how
it's
being
utilized,
what
the
interest
is
just
so
that
we
kind
of
stay
on
top
of
what's
happening,
and
that
would
absolutely
be
something
I'm
happy
to
schedule
and
that
we
can,
you
know,
kind
of
keep
an
eye
and
and
know
how
things
are
happening.
So
just
I
offer
that.
I
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
just
thinking
about
it
from
the
procedural
standpoint,
just
to
make
sure
that
I
am
sure
of
our
options
here,
aaron
we
could
allocate
dollars
in
the
budget
and
then
come
forward
with
a
resolution
specifying
the
policy
requirements
around
said
dollars
if
we
so
chose.
So,
if
we
wanted
to
say
hey
we're
doing
a
pilot
with
xyz,
we
could
ostensibly
in
the
next
three
months
before
fy23,
hits
put
that
into
place.
R
I
Okay,
thank
you.
I
just.
I
think
that
it's
kind
of
important
that
we
think
about
where
we
have
other
opportunities
to
hammer
out
some
of
the
details,
because
I'm
going
to
guess
that
there's
a
lot
of
questions
that
and
conversation
that
we
will
not
supposedly
we
have
22
minutes
until
we're
done
so
you
know
I
I've
I've
been
thinking
a
lot
about
this
particular
budget
allocation.
I
It's
been
it's
a
hard
one
and
I
I
want
to
explain
that
a
little
bit
because
to
councilwoman
vitorial's
point,
you
know
to
a
lot
of
people's
point.
Housing
in
santa
fe
is
unattainable
for
most.
I
think
I
frequently
throw
myself
in
here
where
I
say:
housing
in
santa
fe
is
unattainable
for
me,
if
I
did
not
have
family
resources
and
and
not
everybody
has
that,
and
that
is
a
concern
for
me,
you
know
how
do
we
support
the
community?
I
You
know
so
then,
when
we
talk
about
you
know,
affordable
housing,
trust
fund
and
specifying
for
staff.
I
think
the
need
is
so
entire.
It's
so
incredibly
great
that
it
is
really.
I
It
feels
like
an
insurmountable
mountain
and
it
it.
It
is
something
that
we
need
to
continue
to
press
on
and
focus
on
in
so
many
other
areas,
and
I
think
that
that
is
important
for
us
to
keep
in
mind.
We've
allocated
dollars
to
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
again,
which
is
wonderful,
and
we
need
to
continue
powering
through
with
finding
an
actual
dedicated
revenue
source
and
then
maybe
we
still
are
doing.
I
You
know
other
money
with
grt
and
maybe
that
money
that
we
take
and
we
then
can
put
into
employee
specific
what
I
will
say
in
what
mayor
weber
referenced.
Just
a
moment
ago.
I've
had
four
community
meetings
in
the
last
two
months
and
at
those,
the
vast
majority
of
topics
have
been
on
the
lack
of
police
presence
in
the
community,
and
I
think
one
of
the
pieces
of
this
that
I'm
really
interested
in
is
not
just.
I
How
it
you
know
whether
or
not
you
know
this
program
brings
first
responders
into
our
community,
but
also
how
it
is
utilized
as
a
recruitment
tool.
We
are
at
a
place
where
we
are
not
the
only
jurisdiction
that
is
dealing
with
officer
shortages
and
whether
or
not
we
like
to
admit
it.
We
are
in
competition
with
everybody
around
us
and-
and
I
have
really
heard
a
lot
from
my
constituents
about
that-
need
and
I
think
the
needs
around
public
safety
are
great
and
I
think
that
they
are
multifaceted,
and
I
think
that.
I
As
with
many
issues,
this
is
not
going
to
solve
all
of
the
various
challenges
that
we
are
experiencing,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we
need
to
do
around
public
safety
and
the
work
that
the
community,
health
and
safety
task
force
is
doing
some
of
the
work
that
chief
joy
has
spoken
to.
But
but
there's
there's
something
to
this-
that
I
think,
is
really
important,
and
so
I
am
willing
to
move
forward
with
a
pilot
program.
I
I
really
want
to
be
thinking
very
carefully
about
how
this
is
administered
and
also
what
we
are
measuring,
and
I
think
that
that
is
a
really
important
piece
that
we
know
whether
or
not
this
is
actually
successful
and
successful
in
all
of
those
various
components,
and
so
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
that
ability
to
talk
about
that,
whether
that
is
formed
through
a
resolution,
whether
that
is
through
the
contract.
I
It
sounds
like
that's
something
we
get
to
discuss
later,
but
that
is,
I
think,
the
big
component.
For
me,
there
are
a
lot
of
questions
for
me
about
even
within
first
responders,
who
would
qualify?
You
know.
Does
somebody
qualify
if
they
already
live
in
santa
fe?
Does
somebody
qualify?
You
know
if
they
live
10
miles
from
santa
fe
and
they're
in
el
dorado?
I
You
know
all
of
these
different
questions
I
think,
are
really
important
and
we
are
going
to
hash
them
out
and
I
think
we
need
to
really
be
thinking
about
what
are
some
of
the
metrics
that
we
want
to
be
focusing
on.
That
might
not
be
immediately
apparent,
so
I'll
leave
it
there,
because
I
know
we
do
not
have
a
lot
of
time,
but
I
also
think
that
I
guess
not
one
one
more.
I
I
But
I
have
heard
extremely
loud
and
clear
from
my
constituents
that
there
is
a
real
concern
around
public
safety
and-
and
I
recognize
that,
but
I
but
I
think
that,
as
as
we
look
at
dollars
coming
in
throughout
the
year
as
we
look
at
increases-
and
you
know,
as
more
grt
hopefully
comes
in
than
we
expected
as
we
look
for
other
opportunities-
I
don't
know
if
there's
grant
funding,
I
don't
know
if
we
can
work
to
get
private
dollars.
I
If
we
can
put
the
bones
in
place,
I
would
like
to
see
how
this
does
really
get
expanded
to
staff,
and
so
I
am
willing
to
start
putting
those
bones
in
place
and
hopefully
start
to
build
a
structure
that
is
going
to
be
more
inclusive
of
the
entire
city
staff.
So
I
will
yield
the
floor
for
now.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Counselor
counselor
lindell.
G
G
It
doesn't
happen
quickly
in
order
to
go
through
the
whole
process
of
what
and-
and
it's
not
done
until
it
closes.
G
I
mean
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
real
estate
contracts
I've
been
involved
in
and
everybody's
like
cheering
and
getting
the
party
favors
ready,
and
it's
like
it's
not
going
to
close
there's
a
problem
we
got
to
give
this
a
year.
Friends
to
do
it
for
six
months
is
not
going
to
allow
this
program
to
be
successful
and
that's
what
we
all
want.
G
G
G
I.
I
really
ask
that
you
rethink
that
if
you
want
this
program
to
be
a
success,
because
that
will
not
allow
this
program
to
be
successful.
When
I
worked
at
home
wise,
I
sold
50
houses
a
year
one
a
week
at
one
point
in
time
I
was
the
number
one
selling
realtor
in
santa
fe.
G
I
liked
being
number
one,
but
you
get
something
under
contract
and
there's
a
long
time
between
when
you
sign
that
contract
and
when
you
actually
sit
at
the
closing
table
and
disperse
those
funds
and
become
a
homeowner,
it's
it's
more
complicated
now
than
it
used
to
be,
and
I
would
really
ask
that
you
give
consideration
to
how
times
are
now
is
compared
to
maybe
how
it
was
when
you
bought
your
home,
it's
very
different
and
if
we
want
this
program
to
succeed,
give
it
a
year.
G
So
I'm
sorry,
I
can't
support
the
six-month
pilot,
I'm
more
than
happy
to
make
the
program
into
a
pilot
and.
G
Probably
mr
lofton's
correct
it'll,
take
nearly
fifty
thousand
dollars
per
applicant
to
make
this
realistic
they're
going
to
have
some
costs.
We're
gonna
have
to
pay
them
some
money.
So
you
know
if
we
got
13
people
that
could
do
this
program
in
a
year.
That
would
be
pretty
darn
good,
but
I
can
guarantee
you.
We
cannot
get
13
people
through
this
program
in
six
months.
Promise
you
that.
So
I
can't
support
the
motion
the
way
it
stands,
but
I
surely
would
support
it
as
a
pilot
program
for
a
year.
A
G
A
Me
I
I
misunderstood
yeah,
she
didn't
make
a
motion.
She
just
is
loading
a
time
period
out
there
and
and
I've
allowed
some
conversation
about
whether
that
is
the
appropriate
time.
So,
thank
you
all
right
great.
I'm
just
going
to
remind
us
all
about
the
time
councilwoman
villarreal.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
appreciate
councillor
lindell's
perspective
because
of
her
experience
and
I
and
I
do
agree
the
actual
process
from
when
you
begin,
and
it
actually
closes
very
long.
We
do
know,
though,
if
someone
wanted
to
it
was
interested
in
the
program
that
they
were
serious
about,
trying
to
move
and
buy
a
house
in
in
santa
fe.
Then
they
would
actually
put
their
name
in
and
and
commit
to
going
through,
that
training
that
you
have
to
go
through
anyway
and
that
doesn't
take
six
months.
E
So
that's
why,
at
six
months
we
could
actually
determine
how
many
people
actually
were
committed
to
being
like
wanting
to
buy
a
home
and
going
through
the
home
ownership
training
from
our
first
responders,
and
that
would
give
us
a
clue
as
to
how
how
we're
seeing
things
move
forward
and
if
there's
actually
interest,
you're
right.
There's
this
whole
another
process
that
they
may
drop
out.
They
may
not
stay.
Saying
oh
forget
this.
E
I
don't
want
to
do
this
anymore,
and
we
wouldn't
know
that
from
a
year
from
now,
but
we
would
know
if
there's
people
that
are
committed
to
like
okay,
I'm
going
to
do
this,
I
want
to
sign
up
make
sure
I'm
I
qualify
with
the
criteria
and
that
I
have
to
go
through
that
homeownership
requirement
training,
because
that's
you
have
to
do
that
and
we'll
have
that
criteria,
because
you
have
to
do
that.
E
So
I
still
think
six
months
is
enough
time,
because
my
intention
is
to
see
if,
like
if
there's
interest
and
then
at
that
six
point
six
month,
point
actually
determine
if
we
can
put
more
funding
into
this
pot.
That
was
the
other
intention
to
have
a
halfway
or
a
six-month
point
where
we
like
look
at
our
finances,
see
if
we
can
put
more
money
into
it
and
then
potentially
expand
it
to
more
than
just
first
responding.
E
That
was
the
intention
of
the
six
months
and
not
because
I
thought
people
would
be
able
to
get
through
the
whole
homeownership
and
closing
by
that
period
and
looking
at
the
survey
while
it
gives
us
some
information,
it's
it's
worded
in
a
way
that
we're
not.
It's
not
like
quite
clear
for
me,
because
the
questions
are.
Are
you
a
homeowner
renter
and
20
21
are
renters.
So
are
we
looking
at
those
folks
wanting
to
be
homeowners
and
then
it
says
live?
E
So
yeah
there's
an
interest
and
then
what's
the
next
step
like
what
it
I
just
feel
like
the
survey
is
real
simplified
so
that
the
data
really
isn't
telling
us
as
much
as
we
want
it
to
so
I
think
we
could
actually
get
more
of
a
better
like
survey
to
get
understanding
of
how
many
people
would
be
interested
and
yeah
I
mean
I
would
like
us
to
have
our
contracts
that
we
have
it
currently
in
place
for
down
payment
assistance
to
to
change
them
so
that
there's
preference.
E
But
again
I
guess
the
mayor
and
I
will
have
to
figure
out
the
actual
like
what
are
our
options
but
from
what
I've
understood
is
that's
not
our
option
to
change
it
in
our
current
contracts
to
say,
preference
for
city
employees.
There
is
another
route
that
I
can
tell
you
about
later.
It's
through
our
perfor,
our
service
contracts
that
we
talked
about
at
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund,
not
affordable,
housing,
trust
fund,
but
the
affordable
housing
budget
conversation.
E
A
Thank
you,
councillor
rivera.
J
Okay,
thank
you.
So
I
also
asked
some
questions
of
the
hr
director
regarding
bonuses,
so
out
of
the
300
000
dollars
that
were
included
for
this
budget,
how
much
is
anticipated
being
spent
for
fifteen
thousand
dollar
signing
bonuses
for
pd
and
really
how
many
people
have
taken
advantage
of
that
so
far
and
then
how
our
vacancy
rates
have
changed
from
two
years
ago
to
present.
T
Madam
chair
council
rivera,
I
believe,
the
last
time
that
we
talked
about
this.
The
fifteen
thousand
dollar
incentive
for
lateral
police
officers
comes
out
of
the
police
department
budget.
So
if
I'm
incorrect
mary,
please
correct
me,
but
I
don't
believe
it's
included
in
the
the
allocation
for
the
rest
of
city
employees.
T
As
far
as
how
many
lateral
officers
have
received
the
incentive
there's
been
18
of
them
who
have
received
the
incentive
and
18
of
them
are
still
employed.
T
Half
of
them
received
the
first
half,
so
they
receive
half
of
it
about
the
third
pay
period
of
a
upon
higher
and
then
the
second
half
after
a
year
of
service,
so
nine
of
them
will
receive
it.
The
second
half
I
believe
in
july
and
then
in
early
fall.
J
That
was
an
a
signing
bonus
right.
T
No,
this
is
madam
chair,
counselor
rivera.
This
is
the
15
000
that
you
had
asked
about.
Is
that
what
you're
referring
to.
J
T
Madam
chair
counselor
rivera
the
the
yes,
the
15
000
was
an
effort
to
try
to
recruit
lateral
officers.
So
it's
it
is
only
for
lateral
officers
and
they
do
receive
the
first
half
about
the
third
pay
period
when
they
get
hired
and
then
the
second
half
a
year
later.
Okay,
thank
you.
F
More
on
this,
madam
chair
counselor,
yes,
we
have
75
000,
budgeted
in
the
police
department's
budget
for
this
initiative
and
keep
in
mind
that
if
half
is
paid
out
in
one
fiscal
year
and
the
remainder
in
the
following
fiscal
year,
so
that
allows
us
at
that
7
500
level,
to
fund
about
10
10
incentives
for
the
lateral
transfers.
J
Okay
and
then
the
second
part
of
the
question
yourself.
But
what
were
the
vacancy
rates
two
years
ago
versus
present
day.
T
Madam
chair
counselor
rivera,
let
me
get
that
information
so
right
now
the
vacancy
rate
for
police
in
total
is
24
and
for
sworn
officers
it's
21.
So
let
me
get
the
data
from
the
previous
years.
T
Yes,
I
can
get
you
those
numbers
for
the
current
in
just
a
minute,
because
I
just
did
the
current
ones
in
a
percentage.
But
let
me
get
the
the
number
of
sworn
officers
that
we
had
in
2020.
T
And
then,
in
april
the
most
recent
report
pulled
now
in
april
was
136.
G
J
All
right,
so
all
these
incentives
and
then
monies
large
raises
really
has
led
to
more
vacancies
than
last
vacancies.
J
A
Thank
you
director
mccoy.
Can
you
speak
to
what
the
state
did
for
police
at
the
last
legislative
session?
In
terms
of
you
know,
I
think
somebody
brought
up
that
it's
very
competitive
out
there
for
police
first
responders,
and
the
state
was
also
feeling
the
shortage,
the
vacancies
and
and
did
some
incentives
to
try
to
attract
more
people
to
the
state
police
force.
F
Adam
chair
counselors,
yes
at
the
most
recent
legislative
sessions
or
the
legislative
session
for
2022,
the
legislature
passed
and
the
governor
signed
salary
increases
for
the
state
police
officers
at
a
16
average
amount.
A
Thank
you
all
right.
Councillor
cassette
your
hand
is
up
and
again
folks
we're
at
3
59..
We
still
got
another
budget
thanks.
I
Thank
you
manager,
sorry.
That
was
a
very
casual,
it's
four
o'clock.
No,
I
I
think
that
that
you
know
just
to
follow
up
on
counselor
roberto's
point
that
he
was
making.
That's
actually,
I
think,
a
really
interesting
question
that
we
need
to
dig
into
there's
a
correlation
here,
but
we
all
know.
First,
rule
statistics,
correlation
is
not
causation
and
from
logic
offering
people
more
money
should
not
make
them
leave.
So
I,
but
but
there
is
a
reason
that
we
have
higher
vacancy
rates
and
we
do
exit
interviews
as
people
leave.
I
We
have
retirements
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
really
important
point
that
we
should
not
gloss
over
at
the
moment,
and
this
might
be
something
that
we
take
up
in
recruitment
with
community
health
and
safety.
So
having
that
information,
if
you're
able
to
give
us
information
from
those
exit
interviews,
how
many
of
these
were
retirements,
how
many
are
younger
officers
that
left
us?
I
think
this
is
really
important.
Information
that
councilor
rivera
has
has
hit
on
that.
I
We
need
to
to
further
understand
what
the
challenges
are
here
and
why
we're
having
an
increase
in
vacancies
and
match
potential
solutions
to
the
root
of
those
problems.
So
director
salazar,
I
see
your
hand
is
up.
So
maybe
you
have
some
preliminary
information
for
this.
Yes,
madam.
T
Chair
councillor,
cassid,
that's
a
really
really
good
point.
As
we
were
gathering
this
information
assistant
director,
ashley
barella
pointed
out
the
dates
of
hire
for
the
several
employees
who
have
left
over
the
course
of
the
few
years,
and
I
think
councillor
rivera.
You
probably
know
this
a
lot
of
public
safety.
Employees
are
hired
in
groups,
and
so
we
have
a
lot
of
people
who
are
eligible
for
retirement
all
at
the
same
time.
T
But
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
people
are
able
to
retire
from
their
law
enforcement
careers.
So
that's
a
really
good
point,
and
so,
when
we
look
at
this,
we
see
that
there's
going
to
be
another
wave
of
people
who
are
eligible
for
retirement
in
the
next
few
years
and
again
they
come
in
groups
and
that's
going
to
happen
with
fire
and
police.
So
I
think
that's
a
really
good
point
and
we
can
certainly
dig
into
that
a
little
bit
more
and
provide
some
more
statistics
on
that.
I
Yeah,
I'd
be
really
interested
in
that,
in
that
data
of
you
know,
people
who
did
leave.
Why
do
we
know
if
they
were
leaving
the
field
in
general
and
also
we
had
a
retirement
incentive
in
place?
When
was
that
in
place
and
did
and
police?
I
assume
were
part
of
that
retirement
incentive,
correct.
T
Madam
chair
counselor
cass
said
yes
that
was
in
2020
and
we
can.
We
did
a
report
on
that,
but
I
will
have
to
dig
that
up
and
get
the
number
of
officers
that
were
included,
and
I
can
provide
that
information.
Okay,.
I
Thank
you
yeah.
I
think
that
this
is.
You
know
that
councilor
rivera
is
really
hitting
on
an
important
point
here
of
understanding.
What's
going
on
is
is
crucial
for
us
to
to
be
looking
for
solutions,
so
I
appreciate
getting
that
information
in
time
for
community
health
and
safety.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councillor
rivera.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
think
the
assumption
is
that
I'm
opposed
to
the
16
increase
for
pd
and
though
I
don't
like
it,
I
think
it's
necessary
in
speaking
with
police
officers
since
for
the
last
couple
days
through
the
weekend.
Unfortunately,
I
think
we
will
lose
some
if
we
don't
match
what
the
state's
doing.
J
I
think
officers
have
told
me
that
you
know
it
would
be
convenient
for
them
to
be
closer
to
home
if
they
went
to
albuquerque
or
rio
rancho,
and
so
unfortunately,
I
think
we're
in
that
situation
where
we
have
to
match
what's
going
on.
But
what
I
wanted
and
and
thank
you
councilwoman
kasser,
for
it
is
to
say
that
it's
not
just
money,
we're
missing
the
mark.
We've
been
throwing
money
at
this
for
many
many
many
years
and
haven't
seen
any
changes,
so
we
have
to
do
something
different.
J
We
have
to
look
at
it
differently,
whether
it's
benefits
or
something
else
that
looks
at
keeping
officers
employed
here
in
santa
fe.
I
think
we
need
to
to
do
something
a
little
bit
differently
than
we
have
been
doing
and
I'm
hoping
that
the
many
officers
apply
and
receive
the
down
payment
assistance
for
housing.
That
would
be
one
way
and
I
hope
they
as
many
of
them,
take
advantage
of
it
as
possible.
J
But
you
know
I
don't
like
the
idea
and
they've
all
been
doing
it
is
you
know,
throwing
throwing
money
at
a
problem
and
hoping
for
different
results.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you,
I'm
hoping
we're
getting
close
to
a
vote
councilwoman
via.
E
T
Madame
chair
counselor
vray
on
no,
we
absolutely
extend
exit
interviews
to
all
employees,
they're
not
mandated
to
do
that.
We
we
don't
want
to
force
anyone,
but
we
do
collect
the
data,
and
so
that
is
a
process,
an
exit
process.
When
people
leave
the
city
across
the
board.
E
T
The
whole
purpose
of
collecting
that's
one
reason
for
collecting
exit
interview
information.
So,
yes,
all
right.
Thank.
E
A
A
A
We
do
have
the
community
engagement
city
clerk
budget,
and
if
we
could
get
a
motion
to
on
the
table
for
this,
and
then
we
can
have
discussion.
A
Second,
the
motion
in
a
second
we've:
all
we've
heard
the
presentation
on
this,
so
I
feel
like
we
can
just
go
straight
to
questions
from
the
committee
things
you
want
to
follow
up
on
much
like
we
just
did
with
the
other
budget
council
rivera.
J
Thank
you.
I
was
waiting
for
information
to
come
back.
A
Okay,
specifically,
I
have
no
idea
what
has
been
sent
to
counselors
directly,
so
it'd
be
helpful.
Just
to
know
what
you
want
to
talk
about
here.
J
F
Madam
chair
counselor,
yes,
the
follow-up
for
this
was
a
commitment
by
the
administration
to
provide
additional
details
regarding
the
comp
evaluation
for
the
position
increase.
A
Okay-
and
I
just
want
to
before
I
I'm
assuming
somebody
has
that
information
I
do
want
to
go-
is
the
city
attorney
still
with
us?
I
this
information,
I
think,
is
being
brought
to
us
for
information.
Only
we
are.
We
do
not
have
the
authority
to
set
salaries,
we
are
approving
a
budget
with
well.
Maybe
what
I'll
do
is
I'll.
A
Just
turn
this
over
to
the
city
attorney
to
describe
what
our
role
is
here
and
where
the
edges
are
just
before
before
we
get
into
the
comparables
for
the
position
involved.
R
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee.
R
The
the
budget
is
set
by
category
and
department
and
funds,
and
so
those
are
those
are
the
primary
things
you're
looking
at
approving,
so
certainly
the
amounts
that
are
in
categories
is
is
part
of
your
vote
on
a
budget,
but
the
individual
salaries
are
not.
R
Worth
councillor
rivera
they're
used
to
build
a
budget,
but
certainly
any
individual's
salaries
is
set
by
their
supervisor.
J
Well,
they
were
sorry,
madam
chair.
They
were
never
in
the
budget
before
because
there
were
contracts
associated
with
both
the
city
attorney
and
the
city
clerk's
office,
which
meant
they
were
built
into
the
budget.
We
didn't
question
it:
they
were
already
there.
They
were
established
by
contract
since
they're,
not
part
of
a
contract
they're
here
as
part
of
a
budget
increase
and
you're
right,
we're
not
looking
at
specifics,
but
it
is
mentioned
in
there.
It
is
pointed
to
directly
that's
something
that
we're
looking
at
as
part
of
this
budget.
A
J
A
Yeah,
it
is
called
out-
and
I
think
you
know
that
was
probably
an
abundance
of
caution
to
just
because
of
the
nature
of
these
positions
not
be
seen
as
sliding
something
through
in
a
covert
manner.
But
it
is
something
that
we
we
do
not
we.
There
is
no
contract
being
asked
for
here,
so
it
sets
it
into
a
different
light
and
we
do
not
set
the
salary
if
the
there's
no
contract
being
contemplated.
Is
my
understanding
and
please
city
attorney,
correct
me
if
I'm
speaking.
R
Incorrectly
chairwoman
romero
worth
I
I
agree
with
what
you
said.
I
guess
I
would
add
it
similar
to
anywhere
else
where
I
think
the
budget
department
has
pointed
out,
what's
included
in
a
budget,
we're
not
voting
on
those
contracts
that
might
be
mentioned,
or
the
contemplated
increase
in
the
contract.
R
You're
voting
on
the
amount
that's
budgeted
in
the
plan
that
may
may
be
used
on
those
contracts
and
it's
basically
the
best
information
we
have
now
about
what
the
money
would
be
used
on,
and
I
think
the
intent
here
was
to
point
out
changes
so
that
folks
would
be
aware
of
what's
what's
included,
that's
not
included
elsewhere
or
wasn't
included
previously,
it's
not
about
voting
on
the
individual
bullet
points
that
contribute
to
the
overall
budget.
I
think
the
bullet
points
were
intended
to
provide
information
about
the
plan.
R
V
J
So
for
the
city
attorney's
budgeted
amount,
we
asked
several
questions
and
several
of
the
answers
were
returned
and
that
budgeted
amount
was
approved.
Based
on
the
information
that
was
returned.
That's
all
I'm
asking
for
here.
A
Right
and
I,
and
I
all
I'm
saying
is
I
think
we
before
we
get
into
this
conversation
about
comparables
around
this
particular
salary.
All
I'm
saying
is
I
I
just
want
us
to
understand
what
our
authority
is
here
and
so
what
the
information
you're
being
provided
is
basically
for
informational
purposes.
Only
it's
not
so
you
can
decide
that
the
salary
is
too
high
or
too
low,
or
just
right,
it's
it's
just
you
know.
So
you
know
what
the
universe
looks
like
and
we're.
What
we're
approving
is
the
overall
budget.
J
A
Okay
again,
I
I
think
we
can
get
into
the
conversation.
I
just
want
us
to
understand
where
our,
where
the
edges
of
our
authority
are
counselor
counselor
mayor
your
hand,
is
up.
Q
I'm
gonna
change
my
name
to
counselor,
so
you'll
call
me
mayor,
counselor,
thank
you
and-
and
I
I
think,
there's
you
know,
there's
no
reason
to
be
at
all
concerned
about
the
data
and
the
information.
I
feel
pretty
pretty
good
about
what
my
recommendation
is
my
agreement
with
the
city
clerk
community
engagement
director,
because
I
think,
first
of
all,
she
does
an
outstanding
job.
Q
She
does
a
huge
amount
of
work,
the
details
of
the
job
and
the
responsibilities
of
the
combined
city
clerk
community
engagement
director
is
a
significant
series
of
bullet
points.
I'd
be
happy
to
itemize
them
if
anybody's
interested
in
what
that
list
looks
like,
because
I'm
not
sure
everybody
does
know
what
our
city
clerk
community
engagement
director
does.
Q
Apart
from
making
sure
our
city
meetings
are
run
and
all
the
other
work
of
the
clerk,
there's
the
additional
work
of
community
engagement,
and
if
you
remember
back
when
we
had
this
conversation
last
time,
the
issue
came
up
about
the
the
the
role
and
the
compensation.
I
think
I
tried
to
make
the
point
then
that
we
have
a
a
unique
situation
with
a
having
through,
through
our
reorganization,
created
something
of
a
hybrid
position.
Q
There
really
aren't
direct
comparables,
but
I
did
indicate
to
the
committee
and
council.
Revere
was
the
one
who
had
asked
the
question
that
there
were
some
data
points
from
other
communities
that
might
be
instructive.
Q
Q
Those
are
two
jobs
that
our
community,
our
community
engagement,
director
and
city
clerk,
does
both
of.
If
you
look
at
the
county
clerk
and
the
community
services
director
in
santa
fe
county
and
that
salary
of
the
county
clerk,
you
should
note,
is
set
by
state
statute.
It's
not
a
market
salary.
Q
If
you
look
at
our
friends
in
las
cruces,
the
combined
salaries
of
city
clerk
and
community
development
director
comes
to
two
hundred
forty
four
thousand
four
hundred
eighteen
dollars,
two
four,
four,
four
one,
eight.
Q
So
the
the
fact
is
that
when
you
then
look
at
what
our
community
develop,
our
community
engagement
director
city
clerk
does
every
day
the
city
clerk
duties
are
quite
substantial,
including
things
that
we
don't
always
give
her
credit
for,
like
supervising
the
public
defender
dealing
with
the
issues
involved
with
the
local
election
act.
Record
retention,
weekly
meeting
lists
online
posting
of
agendas
and
packets
and
minutes
online
posting
of
legislation,
mail,
room
and
publication
services,
things
that
are
really
below
the
radar
screen
for
many
people.
Q
And
so
we
really
don't
have
direct
one-to-one
comparisons.
But
the
workload
of
those
two
positions
is
substantially
comparable.
If
at
all,
if
there
is
any
way
to
do
it
to
the
items
or
the
positions
I
identified
through
albuquerque,
the
county,
rio,
rancho
and
las
cruces,
so
I'd
be
happy
to
describe
any
more
than
if
you
want,
but
I
think
those
are
similar
to
the
count.
The
question
counselor
rivera
raised
about
city
attorney
and
what
other
city
attorneys
make.
Those
are
pretty
straightforward,
one-to-one
comparisons.
Q
This
is
a
much
more
unique,
hybrid
situation
where
we
have
a
job
that
we
created
out
of
an
effort
to
make
the
city
clerk's
office
a
as
I
said
in
our
last
meeting,
really
the
front
door
for
all
information.
All
constituent
engagement,
all
council
information
services,
as
well
as
meetings
and
communication
activities,
and
it
is
a
very
substantial
workload
with
a
great
number
of
constituents
and
customers
if
you
will
all
coming
through
the
same
front
door.
I
hope
that
answered
your
request
for
comparables
councillor
rivera.
J
After
our
event,
she's
always
there
it's
easy
for
directors,
I
think
to
put
on
an
event
and
then
put
staff
out
there
and
let
them
do
the
work
after
hours,
but
she's
actually
there,
and
I
appreciate
that
about
her
and
she's
there
for
luncheons,
that
we
have
for
an
employees
and
she's
not
sitting
at
a
table,
eating
lunch,
she's,
actually
greeting
people
and
talking
to
people
as
they
come
in.
I
don't
doubt
for
a
minute
that
she
is
the
hardest
working
one
of
the
hardest
working
directors
within
our
city.
J
What
I
wanted
was
the
numbers
to
justify
the
budget
that
was
in
there
and
I'm
not
sure
again
that
combining
salaries
did
that,
but
I'm
not
gonna
hold
this
up
because
I,
like
I
said
I
do
agree,
I
think
she's
very
hard
working
and
probably
very
deserving.
Q
E
Thank
you,
counselor
councilwoman
viarielle.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
to
follow
up
with
my
my
concerns
and
I
was
able
to
speak
with
director
michelsick
about
it.
My
concern
was
these:
adding
jobs,
positions
and
they're,
not
necessarily
positions
that
we
don't
that
there's
not
a
need,
but
what
concerns
me
is
then
having
more
direct
reports
to
her,
which
then
prevents
her
from
doing
all
the
other
stuff
that
she
does,
and
so
that
to
me
is
a
is
a
concern.
E
So
then
you
have
this
like
lateral
structure
and
not
a
way
to
have
others,
supervisors
and
structure
in
a
way
that
some
of
our
other
great
staff
could
then
become
and
have
another
ability
to
potentially
supervise,
and
so
I
guess
I
would
want
to
hear
from
director
michelsick
about
the
ideas
of
what
you're
thinking
about
ways
to
structure
it.
So
you
don't
have
as
many
direct
reports.
B
All
right
chairman,
with
councilman
via
real
I'd,
have
to
be
happy
to
go
through
that.
I
agree.
I'm
working
on
that
structure
also
and
really
building
out
capacity
for
our
team
in
a
variety
of
other
ways,
but
right
now,
I'm
working
with
hr
to
kind
of
do
a
restructure
of
our
department.
I
think
mayor
weber,
kind
of
intro,
this
idea,
unknowingly,
but
our
department,
my
department,
has
gone
through
many
changes
and
we're
struggling
to
kind
of
get
everything
in
place
a
little
bit
but
we're
getting
there.
B
So
the
idea
is
to
have
really
the
clerk's
hub
of
things,
which
is
our
mail
room,
record
retention,
agendas,
committees
and
then
really
focus
on
our
communication,
which
I
think
many
of
you
know,
but
that
includes
our
social
media.
Our
press
releases,
our
website,
graphic
design,
all
of
those
fall
under
my
department,
and
so
I'm
working
to
create
a
hub
and
a
structure
for
that
through
communications
and
then
also
moving
into
the
community
engagement
piece
of
it
and
that
would
have
kind
of
constituent
services.
B
The
volunteer
coordinator,
the
community
engagement
specialist
position,
so
that
one
that
development
of
stuff
is
there,
that's
something.
I
really
value
and
think
we
need.
Additionally,
I
want
to
know
that
the
one
of
the
first
steps
kind
of
in
all
of
this
was
to
actually
bring
on
an
administrative
manager
for
our
department,
and
that
really
has
been
a
game.
B
Changer
isabella,
sharp
who's
also
with
us
today
for
budget
fills
that
role,
and
I
want
she's,
really
been
the
linchpin
of
this
reorganization
and
kind
of
creating
this
front
door
and
that's
part
of
it
as
well.
Isabella
really
handles
and
oversees.
B
You
know
our
budgets
contracts
and
make
sure
that
a
lot
of
our
stuff
is
flowing
so
we're
starting
to
kind
of
work
into
this
three
kind
of
three
area
structure
for
our
department,
and
I
think
that
will
really
bring
added
capacity
and
also
experience
for
some
of
our
team
members
as
well,
and
I
see
that
already
again,
our
assistant
city
clerk
has
really
stepped
into
that
role.
Since
I
took
the
clerk
position
as
she's
just
really
done
a
phenomenal
job
of
kind
of
stepping
in
and
overseeing
more
of
our
clerk's
side
responsibilities.
E
Thank
you
for
that
addition.
The
comparison
for
city
clerk,
slash
community
engagement.
I
think
community
engagement's
different
from
community
development
as
it's
different
for
our
structure,
so
in
spanish,
actually
doesn't
have
anything
to
compare
it's
like
apples
and
oranges,
so
that
comparison
actually
didn't
help
me.
E
I
think
it
would
be
better
suited
to
say
that
we
want
to
put
director
michelsick
in
to
equalize
her
salary
with
the
rest
of
the
other
directors,
specifically
men,
if
you
would
have
said
that
that
would
have
been
a
different
scenario
instead
of
trying
to
compare
these
different
positions
that
aren't
really
connected
to
ours,
and
so
I
I
appreciate
that
that
would
be
the
situation
that
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
create
parity
for
our
directors,
so
that
they're
all
more
equalized,
and
even
that
is
complex,
because
then
you
talk
about
experience
and
people's
tenure.
E
There's
a
lot
of
layers
there
that
it's
hard
to
figure
that
out
so
yeah
I'll.
Just
finish
that
the
other
question
I
wanted
to
follow
up
with
that,
I'm
still
not
quite
understanding-
is
there's
125
000
to
continue
the
work
of
chart.
That's
in
this
budget,
yet
we're
the
majority
of
all
of
the
budget
for
chart
has
been
in
the
arts
and
culture
department.
E
F
Of
course,
in
the
current
fiscal
year
we
have
a
little
over
300
000
that
is
contained
in
the
community
engagement
department's
budget
for
the
chart
process,
and
I
don't
know
christine
if
you
wanted
to
elaborate
any.
B
B
The
project
has
primarily
been
overseen
by
arts
and
culture
and
with
support
from
different
areas
of
my
staff,
including
again
organizing
certain
trainings
and
also
communication
distribution,
the
website
those
types
of
things,
but
the
budget
has
been
in
our
with
with
my
department
and
we
processed
the
contract,
for
that
the
extra
25
000
is
what
we
need
to
actually
cover
our
current
commitment
with
artful
life
when
the
resolution
and
contract
were
extended,
it
took
us
into
the
next
fiscal
year
and
then
the
additional
funding
is
a
desired
continuation
of
anything
that
were
to
come
from
the
chart
process
or
any
additional
items
that
we
we
would
need
to
address
moving
forward.
B
Did
you
say
that
there
was
currently
300
000?
No,
the
budgeted
amount
was
226
000,
I
believe
is
he
might
I
always.
I
always
mess
up
this
number
if
it's
226
or
256.,
so
isabella
might
have
to
happen
to
clarify
for
me
for
some
reason,
I
always
mix
up
my
sixes
on
this
one,
but
that
was
the
amount
in
the
current
budget
for
the
chart
process
and
then,
through
the
contract.
B
We've
they've
built
us
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
so
far,
but
we
still
need
twenty
five
thousand
for
the
remaining
portion
of
the
work
that
hasn't
been
built
and
again
we
work
in
conjunction
with
the
art,
arts
and
culture
department
for
our
billing,
with
artful
life.
E
B
Correct,
I
don't
believe
it's
an
infrastructure.
Originally
the
budget
was
approved
for
our
department,
and
so
we
work
collaboratively
with
arts
and
culture
for
payment
processing.
F
Madam
chair
counselors,
I
believe
and
christine
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
the
contract
will
continue.
The
current
contract
will
continue
through
july
and
august,
I
believe,
of
the
new
fiscal
year
and
that's
the
amount
that
christine
was
referring
to
earlier.
The
I
believe
is
25
000.
the
additional
amount
in
the
community
engagement
budget.
F
We
have
put
in
to
be
able
to
fund
many
shape
or
form.
Whatever
comes
out
of
charts,
we
do
realize
that
this
is
the
beginning.
I
think,
as
a
city
manager
blair
mentioned
earlier,
the
beginning
of
conversations,
many
more
conversations,
many
more
much
more
focus
for
this
particular
initiative
in
into
future
years.
F
Chair
the
general
government
department
includes
mayor
city,
council,
municipal
court
city,
attorney's
office.
It
does
not
include
arts
and
culture
or
nora
community
engagement.
F
Government
budget-
oh
madam
chair
counselor,
I
believe
you're
referring
to
the
general
fund.
Yes,
so
the
that
is
correct.
This
funding
source
for
the
additional
funding
in
the
future
moving
forward
for
the
chart
process
is
coming
out
of
the
general
fund.
Arts
and
culture
is
funded
by
lodgers
tax.
We
regularly
with
the
initiatives
that
we
have
funded,
either
in
tourism
or
in
arts
and
culture.
Anything
that's
funded
by
the
the
lodgers
tax
revenue
source.
A
Thank
you
counselor.
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
up.
J
A
Yes,
thank
you
all
right.
That
concludes
our
work.
For
today,
council
cassette,
you,
you
get
a
28-minute
break
before
your
next
meeting.
I'm
glad
we
I'm
glad
you
get
some
sort
of
break.
Sometimes
we
move
from
run
one
meeting
to
another
and
it's
not
always
easy,
and
given
that
you're
not
feeling
well,
I'm
glad
you're
gonna
have
a
little
break
anyway.
Thank
you
to
the
committee
for
your
work
today.
We
will
see
you
tomorrow
at
one
and
we
are
adjourned.