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A
D
A
Okay,
we
have
a
quorum.
The
next
item
is
approval
of
the
agenda.
Do
we
have
any
changes
from
staff?
No
changes?
Mr
chair?
Okay,
changes
from
the
committee.
E
B
C
A
Okay.
The
next
item
is
approval
of
the
consent
agenda.
Can
I
have
items
to
be
withdrawn
from
the
consent
agenda
from
the
committee
councilwoman
romero
worth.
A
Okay,
any
others
councilwoman
romeroworth.
A
G
as
in
grape,
okay,
sorry,
okay,
just
g
on
my
agenda
is
approval
of
the
capital,
real
location,
2018
grt,.
A
Great
okay,
councilwoman
villarreal
did
you
have
any
items.
A
Okay,
great
all
right
can
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
calendar
as
amended.
C
A
A
C
A
A
You,
okay,
the
minutes
have
been
approved,
so
that
brings
us
to
the
items
that
were
pulled
off
of
the
consent
calendar.
A
Okay,
this
item
was
pulled
by
councilwoman
romero
worth
and
I
believe
there
are
four
separate
amendments.
I'll
go
ahead
and
before
we
hear
the
amendments
I'll
go
to
councilwoman
romero
worth
and
we'll
start
there.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
As
a
member
of
the
committee,
I
would
like
to
move
the
adoption
of
this
bill
with
the
sponsors
amendment,
which
is
one
of
three
that
are
in
the
packet
tonight.
Is
that
a
motion?
Yes.
A
D
And
I'd
just
for
maybe
the
benefit
of
the
committee,
I'm
happy
to
explain
what
the
amendment
the
sponsors
amendment
does
or
if
one
of
my
co-sponsors
wants
to
or
if
you'd
rather
hear
from
the
land
use
director
on
what
the
amendments
do
or
the
city
attorney's
office
we've
got,
we've
got
a
plethora
of
people
who
can
speak
to
the
amendment.
I
guess.
A
D
So
in
the
sponsors
amendments
there
are
two
different
provisions,
so
if
I'm
just
waiting
for
oh
actually
there's
more
than
well
yeah
so
that
I've
I
forgot,
there's
the
we
are
adding
in
the
table
of
permitted
uses,
which
is
really
a
just
a
technical
change
that
the
bill
drafter
noticed
that
we
had
not
made,
and
then
the
then
let's
see
so
that
would
be
that
takes
up
on
the
amendment
numbers
one
and
two
and
then
three
on
on
the
sponsors.
Amendment
would
allow
for
I'll.
D
Just
read
it
upon
the
death
of
the
permit
holder.
The
permit
may
be
transferred
to
the
permit
holder's
spouse
or
domestic
partner
if
the
spouse
or
domestic
partner
submits
a
written
request
to
the
land
use
director
within
90
days
after
the
permit
holder's
death,
the
spouse
or
domestic
partner
owns,
or
will
own
the
property
upon
the
settlement
of
the
permit
holder's
estate.
So
this
was
something
that
the
planning
commission
brought
up.
D
It's
a
very
limited
ability
to
transfer
a
permit
because,
generally
speaking,
this,
these
changes
to
the
short-term
rental
rules
would
not
allow
the
transferability
of
permits.
But
under
this
limited
circumstance
identified
by
the
planning
commission,
the
sponsors
have
agreed
to
allow
for
a
permit
to
transfer
between
a
domestic
partnership
or
between
couple
husband
and
wife
so
and
then
the
the
fourth
amendment
would
strike
the
buffer
zone
in
the
bcd.
D
D
So
the
the
amendment
does
three
different
things,
but
it's
all
in
one
amendment.
A
Okay
and
then
there
were
amendments
that
were
offered
at
the
public
works
and
utilities
committee
by
members
of
the
governing
body
that
aren't
members
of
the
finance
committee,
but
who
have
joined
us
this
evening,
the
first
having
to
do
with
the
seven
day
rental
period,
and
I
believe
that
amendment
was
offered
by
councilman,
garcia
and
then
the
fourth
was
the
short-term
rental
and
the
generation
of
gross
receipts
taxes
and
the
designation
of
those
gross
receipts,
taxes
towards
affordable
housing,
and
that's
from
that
was
offered
by
councilwoman
v
hill
koppler.
A
So
my
question
for
the
committee,
I
really
is
specific
to
those
two
amendments.
I
would
like
to
have
a
discussion
regarding
the
gross
receipts
tax,
councilwoman
v
hill
koppler.
I
had
told
her
that
I
thought
it
was
something
that
was
germane
to
the
finance
committee
and
something
we
should
consider.
So
I
would
like
to
take
that
opportunity
this
evening
and-
and
she
has
joined
us,
so
she
can
talk
more
about
that.
A
But
I
don't
know
how
to
the
committee
fails
regarding
the
seven
day
rental
period
amendment
and
dealing
with
that
this
evening,
councilwoman
romero
worth.
Did
you
have
any
thoughts
on
that.
D
You
know
I'm
if
it's
the
pleasure
of
the
committee,
we
can
talk
about
it.
I
think
somebody
on
the
committee
would
have
to
make
a
motion
in
order
for
it
to
be
adopted
or
yeah
in
order
for
it
to
be
adopted.
So
I
mean
if
this
is
a
little
bit
funky
this
you
know
having
amendments
from
members
who
are
not
committee
members,
I
know.
D
Certainly
the
grt
amendment
is
something
that
we
might
want
to
have
a
discussion
on,
so
that
we
can,
as
a
finance
committee
and
with
that
lens
talk
about
the
pros
and
cons
of
that
particular
idea.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I'm
just
curious.
If
canada,
council
romero
worth's
point
of
individuals
who
are
not
on
the
committee,
I
would
like
to
talk
about
both
of
these,
and
so
are.
Do
we
talk
about
them
and
then
just
not
vote
on
them
at
this
point,
I'm
curious
as
to
the
process
that
we
are
really
looking
at
right
now.
A
Well,
I
think
I
think
we
definitely
can
talk
about
them
and
then
I
think
it's
up
to
the
committee.
If
we
want
to
take
on
one
of
them
and
and
support
it
or
or
not
or
just
pass
it
along.
We
had
our
discussion
and
we'll
let
the
other
committees
discuss
it
and
then
and
then
ultimately
the
governing
body.
A
So
I
think
it's
just
it's
up
to
the
the
committee,
so
I
guess
when
we
let
me
hear
from
the
other
committee
members
and
then
I
think
I
have
an
idea
of
how
we
can
move
forward.
Councilwoman
villarreal.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
there's
no
rule
that
you
have
to
be
a
member
of
a
committee
in
order
to
have
a
amendment
be
considered,
and
especially
with
the
time
frame
that
we're
looking
at.
I
think
we
need
to
at
least
discuss
the
ones
that
are
are
put
forth
other
than
the
ones
that
were
by
the
sponsors
of
the
of
the
ordinance.
So
I
think
the
one
that's
germaine
to
our
conversation
with
finance
is
the
grt
discussion.
So
I
think
that
we
should
discuss
that.
So
I
guess
I
want
to
know
process.
G
How
do
we,
if
there's
already
emotion?
How
do
we
even
discuss
or
consider
the
other
amendments
that
have
been
that
are
on
our
agenda
or
in
the
packet
material.
A
And
I
I'll
I'll
refer
to
councilwoman
romero
worth,
but
I
think
we
can
take
up
the
first,
this
first
motion
and
discuss
what
those
amendments
are
and
then
could
we
then
go
to
one
of
the
other
amendments
and
then,
if
there's
a
motion
wanting
to
deal,
approve
or
deny
that
or
a
motion
regarding
that
one,
we
could
go
to
that
and
then
the
fourth
one.
So
what
I'm
thinking
councilwoman
romero
worth
is:
can
we
deal
with
these
separately?
D
I
I
guess
I
bring
in
the
city
attorney's
office
here.
I
think
what
we've
done
is
what
we
do
with
at
the
governing
body
meetings,
which
is
we
put
a
motion
on
on
the
floor
for
discussion,
and
then
we
can
have
other
amendments.
But
in
this
case
I
think
we
should
discuss
you
know
it
sounds
like
the
committee
would
like
to
discuss
the
other
two
that
have
been
brought
by
non-committee
members
and
then
I
think
it's
the
we
can
discuss
them.
D
But
then
somebody
on
the
committee
would
have
to
make
a
motion
which
would
either
vote
them
up
or
down,
and
that
would
be
the
finances
commit
that
finance
committee's
statement
on
those
amendments,
or
we
can
just
have
a
discussion
and
if
nobody
wants
to
make
a
motion,
that's
on
the
finance
committee,
then
that's
an
option
as
well.
J
Mr
chair
and
I
think,
you're
not
held
to
a
super
rigid
standard
in
the
committee
process,
but
I'm
mostly
here
to
help
out
on
some
of
the
legal
questions
on
the
amendments
for
strs
tonight,
but
I
think
that
that
makes
perfect
sense
in
order
to
make
a
recommendation,
you
will
need
a
motion,
but
I
think
all
the
amendments
are
germane
to
the
overall
discussion
of
this
legislation
because
I
think
they
relate
to
the
existing
language.
So
probably
discussion
on
the
amendments
is
pretty
relevant
to
the
overall
motion
on
the
on
the
bill.
So.
A
G
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that,
if
there's
an
amendment
to
be
considered
that
if
it's
not
if
it
doesn't
pass
this
committee,
does
that
mean
it
doesn't
move
forward
at
all
to
the
next
committee.
D
I
think
it
can
be
offered
in
the
next
committee
and
it
can
be
offered
a
governing
body
as
well.
D
No,
I
think
any
if
there
is
a
if
this
committee
wants
to
make
a
statement
on
those
amendments
either
voting
them
up
or
down.
That
would
just
be
what
the
finance
committee
thinks,
but
certainly
public
works.
Public
utilities
has
the
ability
to
make
their
own
statement
and
then
at
governing
body.
The
final
determination
would
be
made.
A
Okay,
councilwoman
lindell
did
you
want
to
add
anything
regarding
the
process?
I
know.
I
think
that
I
think
that.
L
Counselor
romero
worth
put
forward
a
pretty
good
process
for
us
to
follow
on
this,
and
I'm
completely
satisfied
with
that.
I
mean
we
can
discuss
these.
We
have
a
motion
on
the
floor,
but
I'm
fine
to
discuss
the
other
amendments.
A
Okay,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
let's
discuss
the
amendments
as
per
that
have
been
as
part
of
the
motion
first
and
then,
after
that
we
will
go
to
the
other
two
amendments.
So,
regarding
councilwoman
romero,
worth's
amendments
are
there
any
questions
or
discussion
regarding
that
those
amendments.
D
Yes
and
mr
chair
just
to
be
clear
that
they're,
not
my
amendments,
they're,
the
amendments
of
the
sponsors,
so
all
four
sponsors
have
agreed
that
these
two
three
changes,
sorry
in
contained
in
this
one
amendment
should
be
made
to
the
bill
and,
as
I
already
outlined,
but
happy
to
hear.
If
there
are
questions
about
them
or
people
need
more
information.
A
Okay,
then,
let's
go
to
councilman.
Garcia
is
with
us.
If
you
want
councilman
to
explain
your
proposed
amendment
and
then
we
could
have
the
committee
discuss
your
amendment.
E
E
I
would
have
to
say
that
I
do
disagree
with
some
of
the
finance
committee
members
opinion
in
the
matter
that
it
doesn't
necessarily
affect
the
finance
committee
that
this
amendment
would
ultimately
lead
to
increased
revenues
for
the
city,
so
it
absolutely
impacts
the
finances
for
our
city.
So
I
appreciate
our
city
attorney
saying
everything
is
germane,
but
I
think
this
is
very
much
in
german,
given
that,
should
this
amendment
be
approved,
short-term
rental
folks,
operators
will
be
able
to
rent
out
more
than
once
a
week
which
will
increase
revenues
for
the
city.
E
So
I
put
forth
this
recommendation.
I
know
that
it
is
not.
This
is
a
has
been
part
of
our
ordinance
in
the
past,
so
it's
nothing
new,
but
this
is
moving
forth
on
the
recommendation
of
our
planning
commission.
This
is
one
of
the
recommendations
that
they
made.
E
I
wanted
to
make
this
change
prior
to
this
coming
back
up
for
review
when
when
it
was
first
reintroduced
this
summer,
and
I
wholeheartedly
believe
that
we
need
to
do
everything
we
can,
especially
in
that
in
the
economic
situation
we
are
currently
in
with
our
city,
that
we
should
not
be
limiting
short-term
rental
operators
to
operate
once
per
week.
E
E
In
that
sense,
I
think,
in
the
conversations
we
had
at
in
the
public
utilities
meeting
there
was
comments
made
that
it
by
some
of
the
call
my
colleagues
on
that
committee,
that
there
would
be
increase
in
traffic,
which
would
not
necessarily
be
the
case,
whereas,
if
a
person
living
at
a
house
on
their
day
to
day
there
you're
going
to
see
that
traffic,
whether
they're
going
to
work
every
day
taking
their
kids
to
work
every
day
going
to
the
grocery
store
every
day,
it's
going
to
be
a
regular
traffic
that
that
you're
going
to
see.
E
So
I
don't
agree
with
that
argument,
and-
and
secondly,
there
was
a
comment
made
that
the
folks
that
were
renting
the
short-term
rentals
tend
to
abuse
the
space
and
party.
So
to
speak,
which
I
do
not
believe
is
the
case
either
a
majority.
The
vast
majority
of
these
renters
do
respect
the
neighborhoods.
I
I
had
a
conversation
with
one
of
our
police
officer
members
and
they
do
not
see
an
overwhelming
response
to
short-term
rentals
for
disturbances
so
that
there
there
is
not
a
challenge
in
that
aspect.
E
We
with
this
proposed
ordinance
and
the
revisions
to
the
penalty
ordinance
that
was
approved
earlier
this
year.
We
have
a
structure
in
place
to
ensure
that
if
a
short-term
rental
is
out
of
compliance
and
a
disturbance
to
the
neighborhood,
we
can
take
the
appropriate
measures
to
revoke
that
short-term
rental
operator's
license.
E
So
I
I
fully
believe
that
this
amendment
is
in
the
best
interest
of
our
community
and
per
the
recommendation
of
the
planning
commission.
We
are
moving
forward
with
this.
This
I'm
moving
forward
with
this
proposed
amendment.
With
that,
I
feel
free
to
stand
for
any
questions.
Mr
chair,
okay,.
A
Thank
you,
councillor,
garcia.
Any
comments
from
the
committee
regarding
this
issue.
L
I
think
that
there's
no
other
issue
that
I've
heard
more
about
from
neighborhoods
than
the
amount
of
number
of
short-term
rentals
of
places.
Turning
over
and
turning
over,
I
appreciate
counselor
garcia's
comments
on
this
and
opinions
from
people
that
I
don't
know
the
longevity
of
it
or
that
it's
really
data
based
and
the
planning
commission.
L
I
don't
think
the
planning
commission
gets
letters
from
constituents
about
the
problems
that
they
have
in
neighborhoods,
I'm
quite
certain
of
it.
I
don't
know
that
anybody
thinks
that
it's
a
traffic
issue
only
a
traffic
issue
in
terms
of
not
having
neighbors
the
comings
and
goings
of
different
people,
it's
not
about
actual
traffic
of
getting
in
the
cars
and
and
driving
here
or
driving
there.
L
L
It's
nothing
that
any
neighborhood
association
or
any
group
of
neighbors
would
come
to
us
and
say
I
want
to
have
more
turnover
of
the
short-term
rental.
That's
next
door
to
me.
I've
had
many
many
constituent
letters
saying
just
the
opposite
and
that
they
would
like
enforcement
of
the
seven
day
rule.
So,
as
I've
said
before,
this
isn't
something
that
I'll
be
supporting,
and
I
think
that
over
the
course
of
time,
listening
to
neighborhood
associations
is
a
reasonable
thing,
and
not
everything
that
we
do
is
about
making
revenue
for
this
city.
L
We
could
make
more
revenue
for
this
city
in
a
lot
of
different
ways,
and
that's
that's
not
what
the
focus
of
this
is
for
me.
The
focus
of
this,
for
me,
is
about
maintaining
neighbor
relationships
and
neighborhoods.
So
that's
what
I
have
chair.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
anything
else
from
your
chair.
Can
I
respond
to
that.
Let
me
let
me
no.
Let
me
let
me
hear
from
the
the
committee
if
there's
in
case,
there's
other
questions
or
or
concerns,
and
then
I'll
give
you
a
last
word
on
that
anything
else
from
the
committee
regarding
this
specific.
A
Issue,
okay,
counselor,
councilman,
garcia
I'll,
give
you
the
last
word
on
this
and
then
I
want
to
get
to
the
other
amendment
offered
by
councilwoman
v.
Hill
copler
so
go
ahead,
and
if
you
want
to
give
a
final
thought
on
this.
E
Thank
you
so
much.
Mr
chair,
I
appreciate
it.
We
have
to
remember
the
number
one
challenge
that
we're
seeing
with
short-term
rentals
now
is
enforcement,
that
that
is
our
number
one
challenge
we're
seeing
with
them,
and
the
second
biggest
challenge
we're
seeing
is
the
sheer
number
of
short-term
rentals
and
it's
not.
It's
don't
don't
be
distracted.
E
I
think,
with
the
addressing
of
the
limiting
the
number
of
short-term
rentals
that
can
operate
in
a
particular
part
of
town
will
address
that.
That's
that's
overwhelmingly
what
the
community
has
asked
for
and
within
my
one
year
as
a
city
councilor
and
just
listening
to
community
members
that
have
been
impacted
by
short-term
rentals.
Since
I've
lived
in
the
city
of
santa
fe,
it's
been
surely
the
number
of
rentals,
not
the
number
of
renting,
so
I
would
ask
don't
be
distracted,
it's
not
the
number
of
times
being
rented
per
week.
E
It's
not
the
the
type
of
people
that
rent
it,
because
we
we
have
to
understand
that
we're
living
in
a
changed
society
we're
living
in
a
society
where
my
generation
does
not
prefer
to
go
rent
a
hotel.
E
Do
we
tell
a
restaurant
besides
in
times
of
a
pandemic,
you
can
only
let
allow
so
many
guests
to
dine
at
your
restaurant.
Do
you
allow
tell
a
movie
theater
besides
capacity,
we
can
only
we're
only
filling
it
up
half
this
time,
so
we
have
to
look
at
it
in
that
sense,
are
we
we're
approaching
this
not
from
the
business
perspective,
and
we
have
to?
This
is
ultimately
a
business
endeavor
that
we're
talking
about,
and
I
appreciate
the
time
mr
chair
and
and
those
are
all
the
comments
I
have.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Counselor
garcia,
councilwoman
v.
Hill
copler.
Can
we
can
you
explain
to
us
your
amendment?
Thank
you.
Thank
you
both
for
being
here
this
evening.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
I
do
just
want
to
go
over
the
purpose
of
my
amendment
and
then
I
have
some
comments
on
the
other
things
that
have
been
discussed.
I
don't
know
if
you'd
allow
me
to
comment
on
that.
Then
yeah.
A
Yeah,
let's
go
ahead
and
go
ahead
and
let's
whichever
you
prefer
to
go
over
first,
is
fine.
M
Okay,
well,
the
purpose
of
this
amendment
is
to
capture
a
portion
of
gross
receipts
tax
from
rentals
of
short
term
and
to
place
those
into
the
affordable
trust,
affordable,
housing,
trust
fund.
That's
essentially
what
this
does
now
in
this.
M
This
has
been
prepared
through
the
city
attorney's
office,
to
put
this
into
the
appropriate
place.
M
So
I
was
trying
to
find
my
place
about
exactly
where
this
is
being
put
into,
but
I
think
maybe
the
city
attorney
can
comment
on
where
exactly
it
goes,
because
I
was
trying
to
follow
it
page
by
page,
but
I
it's
in
a
whole
different
section
of
a
different
ordinance
with
regard
to
municipal
taxes.
M
So,
but
essentially
the
purpose
is
to
capture
some
of
the
gross
receipts
tax
and
we
can
further
determine
what
that
is,
whether
it's
a
percentage
or
an
amount,
but
at
this
time
it's
pri.
This
amendment
is
just
to
recognize
that
we
should
capture
some
of
this,
because
we
can
make
a
a
difference
with
our
affordable
housing
program
financially.
M
Some
of
the
comment
early
on
way
back
when
we
first
started
doing
this
was
this
was
many
months
ago
from
from
our
p
from
our
public
commentary
and
letters
was
that
short-term
rentals
was
somehow
affecting
affordable
housing
and,
and
what
we
know
is
that
majority
of
the
short-term
rentals
are
on
the
east
side
and
if
those
houses
weren't
used
for
short-term
rentals
and
they
were
to
be
maybe
placed
on
the
market
or
rented
otherwise,
just
like
normal.
M
There
wouldn't
be
an
impact
for
the
affordable
housing
program
because
those
houses,
if
they
were
sold,
they
would
be
out
of
reach
of
affordable
rental
rental
prices
same
thing
so
doing
this.
Amendment
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
perhaps
address
some
of
those
concerns,
but
also
to
give
some
kind
of
financial
boost
to
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
and
I'll,
stop
there
and
see.
If
there's
any
comment
or
questions.
G
I
was
trying
to
find
my
hand
it's
too
confusing,
sometimes
so
I'm
supportive
of
this
concept-
I
I
don't
know
the
ins
and
outs
of
the
how
how
it
gets
operationally
how
it
gets
separated,
but
I
know
that
we
can.
If
we
do
this
for
other
other
interests
we
we
could
certainly
do
it
for
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund,
and
you
know
I
did
bring
this
up.
G
I
don't
know
how
long
ago,
to
the
attorney's
office,
before
we
even
started,
looking
at
amending
the
short-term
rental
ordinance
and
trying
to
find
a
way
that
there
would
be
a
portion
of
either
the
grt
or
the
lodgers
tax
to
be
utilized
to
go
towards
affordable
housing
initiatives,
and
I
was
told
it
wasn't
being
it
wasn't
able
it
wasn't.
G
I
don't
know
it
wasn't
legal
it
wasn't.
We
weren't
able
to
do
it,
so
I'm
happy
to
see
that
there's
a
an
avenue
here
to
be
able
to
utilize
our
grt
in
order
to
support
the
affordable
housing
trust
we
don't
have
a
regular
funding
source.
That's
that's
reliable.
We
have
to
rely
on
hud
funding
and
that
comes
with
its
own
challenges,
and
so
if
we
can
find
a
regular
revenue
source,
I
think
it
would
be
important
to
do
so.
So
I'm
I'm
supportive
of
this
amendment.
G
I
just
want
to
know
maybe
from
staff
how
internally
we
make
it
happen,
how
if
we
have
to
think
of
the
percentage
of
grt
or
or
if
there's
something
that
we
have
to
define
right
now
or
as
it's
written,
that
we
could
utilize
the
language
that
the
attorney's
office
came
up
with
so
just
wanted
to
hear,
maybe
from
attorney's
office,
or
I
don't
know
if
it's
finance
that
has
to
procedurally
make
this
happen
and
if
we
figured
out
those
ins
and
outs
or
we
have
time
to
figure
that
out
since
this
wouldn't
take
place
until
next
fiscal
year
next
year.
G
So
overall,
I
think
this
is
is
a
great
idea.
I
think
short-term
rentals
weren't
created,
so
that
people
could
create
their
only
livelihood.
It
was
supplemental
income
and
really
we
should
be
thinking
about
how
we
can
support
long-term,
renting
and
long-term
rentals
and
affordable
housing
in
our
city.
So
I'd
like
to
hear
from
staff
more
a
little
bit
about
the
procedure
of
how
this
would
work.
J
So
that's
the
part
4
of
the
amendment
sheet
describes
that
section
so
there's
already
a
section
in
city
code
that
allocates
crt
between
various
categories,
so
the
proposed
amendment
would
take
a
portion
of
the
unallocated
grt
that
currently
goes
directly
to
the
general
fund
without
a
specific
purpose
assigned
to
it,
and
then
we
would.
The
the
part
that
is
the
unknown
is
the
amount
that
it
would
be
because
it
would
have
to
be
estimated.
J
The
tax
and
revenue
department
at
the
state
does
not
report
to
the
city,
the
actual
amount
from
short-term
rentals,
so
that
part
would
have
to
be
determined
still.
It
was
that's
not
specified
here
how
the
estimate
would
occur,
but
it's
at
least
it
is
permissible
for
that
to
happen,
and
then
this
would
also
it
would.
It
doesn't
carve
out
a
section.
That's
already
been
specified
for
a
particular
purpose,
the
way
that
this
is
drafted,
but
it
would
take
away
from
the
unspecified
general
fund
revenues
from
short-term
rentals.
A
Okay
and
then,
as
far
as
councilwoman
vera
rael's
comment
about
going
into
effect
next
fiscal
year,
the
ordinance
would
go
into
effect
sooner
right,
but
I
should
correct
that
the
collection
or
the
designation
of
grt
couldn't
happen
until
next
fiscal
year.
J
Chairman
of
beta,
I,
I
think
it
would
go
into
effect
right
away,
but
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
the
estimate
you
know,
we
get
these
reports
on
a
monthly
basis
from
trd
in
terms
of
our
generated
revenues.
So
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure,
I'm
totally
clear
on
on
the
reasoning.
We
think
it
would
take
a
year.
H
Mr
chairman,
to
that
point
our
fy
21
budget
and
all
of
the
revenues
have
already
been
allocated
for
fy
21
and
miss
mcsherry
did
outline
the
fact
that
the
portion
of
unallocated
grt
would
be
reduced
if
the
allocation
were
to
change
for
a
portion
to
be
transferred
to
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
That
would
change
our
current
year
budget,
thereby
reducing
our
revenues
for
the
currently
approved
fy
21
budget.
So
our
budget
would
be
out
of
balance
for
the
current
year.
J
Appear
on
that
point,
I
might
recommend
that
if
we
don't
want
it
to
cause
that
problem,
then
you
might
want
to
put
a
later
date
into
place
for
this
portion
of
the
bill,
because
I
think
it
would
go
into
effect
at
the
same
time
as
all
the
other
portions.
So
if
you
wanted
to
avoid
that
problem
with
the
current
year's
budget,
I
would
recommend
delaying
the
you
know
the
initial
date
of
applicability
for
this
section.
D
M
I
I
want
to
further
explain
that
that
that
miss
mccoy's
description
is
exactly
why
the
the
amendment
includes
july
a
fiscal
year
forward,
because
these
these
rev,
the
grt
revenues
are
already
spoken
for,
and
it
also
gives
time
to
plan,
and
it
also
recognizes
that
we
are
in
a
strange
covid
budget
year
still
and
things
are
likely
to
change.
M
Even
you
know,
all
the
best
plans
are
sometimes
no
good
anymore,
so
it
gives
time
to
have
this
budget
settle
down
kind
of
know
what
we're
dealing
with
and
hopefully,
by
july
1st
of
next
year,
we
can
have
a
little
more
planning.
Time
have
a
little
more
information
about
how
things
are
done
and
then
have
an
idea
about.
Maybe
how
much
money
is
potentially
forecasted
from
short-term
rentals
to
be
available.
M
A
You,
okay,
great
councilwoman,
v,
rael
anything
else.
G
That's
all
I
just
wanted
to
see
procedurally
how
it
would
work
and
if
it
would
depend
on
obviously
gross
receipts
tax
and
how
many
people
are
renting
short-term
rentals
in
our
economy.
I
mean
a
lot
of
factors
will
play
into
it,
but
I
do
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
designate
a
funding
stream
that
would
go
towards
our
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
That's
all
I
have
thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
So
first
I
want
to
start
by
saying.
When
I
ran
for
city
council,
I
campaigned
on
finding
a
funding
stream
for
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
I
think
it's
something
that
we
need
to
do.
I
have
heard
in
in
my
research
and
advocacy
for
working
on
this
that
we
we
need
somewhere
one
to
two
million
dollars
of
kind
of
consistent
revenue,
steady
stream
and,
and
that
would
help
us
plan
how
we
use
those
funds
and
give
us
something
that
we
could
count
on.
D
I
don't
think
this
amendment,
oh
well.
Let
me
one
one
more
thing.
I
also
think
that
short-term
rentals-
I
completely
agree
with
this
with
the
advocate
for
this
amendment,
that
short-term
rentals
have
had
an
impact
on
our
affordable
housing
and
our
loan
and
our
ability
to
have
long-term
rental
stock,
and
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
I
think
we
have
been
working
on
this
bill,
so
we've
been
working
on
it.
D
D
I
also
realized
to
an
earlier
comment
that
they
do
play
a
role
in
our
hotel
accommodations,
the
mix
that
we
have,
that
there
are
people
who
want
to
stay
in
long-term
rentals
and
not
in
motels
or
hotels,
and
so
I
think,
as
as
we
have
worked
on
this
bill
over
the
last
six
months
or
more,
we
have
been
cognizant
of
trying
to
strike
a
balance
right
of
doing
things
that
don't
kill
the
industry.
There
are
provisions
that
we
have
turned
down.
D
That
many
have
advocated,
we
should
do,
one
of
which
I
will
mention
is
is
to
not
allow
short-term
rentals
unless
it's
your
primary
residence
that
would
have
the
effect
of
killing
the
short-term
rental
industry,
and
we
have
chosen
not
to
put
that
in
our
bill,
because
we
recognize
that
short-term
rentals
do
play
a
role
in
our
lodging
mix
here
in
santa
fe
and
that
we
are
heavily
reliant
on
tourism
as
part
of
our
economy.
So
with
those
two
things
said,
I
I.
D
I
don't
think,
though,
that
this
is
the
right
source
of
money
for
funding
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
D
I-
and
there
are
a
number
of
reasons
for
that-
I
think
the
biggest
one
is
that
grt,
as
we've
seen
because
of
the
pandemic
and
the
hit
to
our
budget
grt
is
the
major
source
of
revenue
for
our
budget,
and
we
are
facing,
I
believe,
a
70
million
dollar
shortfall
that
we
have
had
to
patch
together
a
budget
to
do
the
things
that
we
need
to
do
for
the
city.
So
it's
bad
fiscal
policy
to
tie
up
that
revenue
source
by
dedicating
it
it's
something
you
don't
want
to
do.
D
As
a
general
rule,
we
want
to
have
flexibility
in
our
grt
funds.
They
go
into
our
general
fund
and
through
the
budgeting
process
we
decide
how
we
want
to
prioritize
the
use
of
that
money
depending
on
our
needs,
depending
on
what
issues
are
facing
the
city.
So
we
want
to.
We
want
to
have
that
flexibility.
D
I
would
argue
that
now,
if
we
want
some
of
that
grt
in
a
budget
year
to
go
to
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund,
that
we
do
that
through
the
budget
process
and
not
tie
up
again
those
funds
by
putting
it
in
in
our
statute.
In
our
codes
that
says
by
law,
we
are
required
to
we,
we
tie
our
hands
and,
as
a
finance
committee,
that's
bad
fiscal
policy.
We
shouldn't
be
doing
that.
D
I
would
also
argue
it's
been
said
that
we
need
a
reliable
source.
I
would
argue
grt
is
not
a
reliable
source
of
money.
It
fluctuates
and
we've
seen
that
this
year
and
part
of
the
reason
we're
in
such
a
in
such
a
trouble
is
that
we've
taken
a
major
hit
in
our
grt
we've
fallen
off
a
cliff.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of.
We
don't
have
diverse
funding
revenue
sources
for
the
city.
Grt
is
our
main
source
of
funding
and
it's
not
reliable.
It
fluctuates.
D
I
think
it
would
be
great
to
find
it
would
be
really
great
if
we
could
find
a
new
revenue
source
that
was
stable
and
that
provided
that
the
level
of
money
that
we
need
to
make
something
of
of
our
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
This
I've
been
told
that
one
we
don't,
as
I
think,
has
been
previously
stated.
We
don't
so
when,
when
we
get
the
gross
receipts
tax
from
the
state,
it's
not
separated
out
into
a
nice.
You
know
pie
chart
of
all
right.
D
You
earned
this
through
short-term
rentals
and
you
earned
this
through
sales
tax
and
you
in
retail,
and
you
earned
this
through
services.
They
don't
break
it
out,
like
that.
They
just
give
you
a
lump
sum.
So
that's
the
other
problem
is
that
it.
I
think
it
creates
a
a
real
problem
with
trying
to
figure
out
how
much
money
is
coming
just
from
that
from
short-term
rentals,
so
that
we
put
it
in
there,
but
then
I've
also
been
told
that
it's
not
a
lot
of
money
and
so
yeah.
D
Okay,
politically,
we
could
take
that
money
and
feel
good,
like
we've
done
something,
but
it
won't
be
the
level
at
which
we
need
and-
and
I
think
we
really
should
take
the
time
and
find
a
new
revenue
source
that
is
stable.
That
does
bring
us
the
level
of
money.
We
need
to
do
the
things
we
want
to
do
with
with
that
that
affordable
housing,
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
D
It
would
also
be
nice
if
that
revenue
source
would
grow
over
time,
and
I
don't
think
you
know
short-term
rentals.
We
are
trying
because
of
the
negative
impact
they've
had
on
neighborhoods.
We
actually
are
trying
to
contain
them
a
little
bit,
not
get
rid
of
them
but
contain
them.
So
that's
not
a
revenue
source.
That's
going
to
grow
over
time.
D
So,
let's
see-
and
I
guess
you
know-
and
and
just
back
to
the
point
one
other
point
and
then
I'll
give
up
the
floor
to
other
folks,
but
you
know
the
fact
that
we
can't
pull
it
out
easily
from
the
money
that
we
get
from
the
state
makes
it
difficult
to
administer,
and
so
because
of
that,
I
don't
think
that
this
is
the
path
we
want
to
take
and
I
don't
think,
as
a
finance
committee,
we
want
to
be
recommending
this.
For
all
of
these
reasons,
that's
all
I
have
mr
chair.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
You
know,
I
also
want
to
say,
along
with
council
romeroworth,
the
importance
of
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
cannot
be
understated
and
that
it
really
is
incumbent
upon
us
of
finding
revenue
streams
to
fund
this.
I
I
would
like
to
hear
more-
and
I
believe
ms
mccoy
might
be
the
individual
to
give
me
some
more
information
about
some
of
the
challenges
that
have
been
alluded
to
regarding
how
the
state
delivers
grt
to
us,
how
it
is
delineated
and
what
our
possibilities
potentially
are.
There.
H
Mr
chair
counselors,
we
did
confirm
with
trd
that
they
do
not
have
a
report
for
short-term
rentals.
Their
reporting
that
is
provided
to
all
local
governments
is
based
on
the
naic
codes,
so
it
would
be
very
difficult
to,
according
to
our
trd
contacts,
to
isolate
the
short-term
rentals
based
on
their
code,
so
it
concur
with
councillor
romero
worth
the
administration
of
this,
as
our
city
attorney
mick,
sherry
said,
would
have
to
be
based
on
an
estimate
and
the
estimate
is
not
currently
included
or
how
to
calculate
that
estimate.
F
Thank
you,
ms
mccoy.
I
appreciate
hearing
a
little
bit
more
about
that
and
what
that
could
potentially
look
like.
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
that
I
find
just
as
we're
talking
about
this
topic.
Another
piece
that
makes
me
a
little
bit
worried
about
this
funding
stream
is
that
oftentimes,
if
a
short-term
rental
grt
is
going
to
be
decreasing,
we're
going
to
be
seeing
a
hit
to
our
tourism
economy,
which
is
going
to
be
increasing
the
need
the
need
for
affordable
housing.
F
So
that's
something
that
I
would
like
to
look
for
some
balances,
for,
I
think
one
of
the
pieces.
That's
I'm
thinking
about
with
this
is
we're
not
going
to
have
one
funding
stream.
I
don't
think
we
should
have
one
funding
stream
for
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
looking
at
a
number
of
different
streams
that
can
potentially
balance
out
when
one
stream
is
lower
than
another,
and
so
that
that's
another
piece
that
you
know.
F
I
think
that
we
want
to
look
at
and
I'm
almost
curious,
how
we,
if
pulling
the
funding
streams
out
into
different
ordinances,
as
opposed
to
looking
at
it
as
a
whole
and
pulling
what
different
parts
are
going
to
pull
into
it
in
terms
of
revenue.
If
that
is
the
approach
that
we
want
to
be
looking
at
sorry,
I
did
have
one
more
question
that
I
am
now
not
recalling.
F
L
I
think
this
question
is
for
miss
mcsherry.
L
I'm
looking
at
the
proposed
amendment
and
on.
L
J
Chairman
of
beta
counselor
lindell,
I
think
what
we
did
is
we
there's
there's
a
couple:
un
restricted
sections,
so
there's
part
b
which
goes
to
the
general
fund,
and
then
we
added
a
clause
that
says
accept
is
limited
in
paragraph
e
and
then
there's
paragraph
d,
which
also
is
unrestricted.
That
goes
to
the
general
fund
and
we
added
a
clause
there.
That
also
says
accept
is
limited
in
paragraph
e,
because
you're
right
without
those
clauses,
the
paragraphs,
a
through
d,
would
have
accounted
for
the
full
one
and
a
half
percent.
J
So
now
e
takes
a
portion
from
b
and
d
of
an
unknown
amount,
but
definitely
a
sub
part
of
those
two
categories
and
dedicates
them
to
the
affordable
trust,
housing.
Okay,.
J
L
One
more
question
for
me:
are
we
talking
I'm
sorry,
I'm
just
not
clear
on
this?
Are
we
talking
about
the
entire
amount
of
municipal
gross
receipts
tax
generated
from
short-term
rental,
or
are
we
talking
about
only
the
amount
that
would
fall
within
the
one
and
a
half
percent
of
municipal
gross
receipts
tax.
J
Chairman
of
beta
council
indel,
I
would
say
it's
potentially
even
further
limited
to
those
quarter,
percentages
that
are
described
in
b
and
d,
so
it
would
be
a
portion
of
those
percentages,
so
a
portion
of
the
sixth
one
quarter
of
gross
receipts
tax
and
a
portion
of
the
third
and
fourth
one
quarter.
So
it's
it
would
be
a
portion
of
three
one-quarter
percentages.
L
L
H
Mr
chair
counselor,
I
concur
with
our
city
attorney
that
the
calculation
for
the
estimate
just
want
to
make
that
clear
that
this
would
always
be
an
estimate.
It
would
not
be
a
direct
amount
that
we
are
receiving
confirmation
that
has
been
paid
the
direct
amount
of
grt
that
has
been
paid
by
the
short-term
rental
industry
in
any
given
period
in
any
given
month.
H
So
that
being
said,
the
estimate
that
has
not
been
calculated
or
the
allocation
of
that
has
not
been
determined
and
importantly,
the
those
b
and
d
are
both
now
going
into
the
general
fund.
So
those
are
for
general
municipal
purposes
which
are
allocated
to,
as,
as
you
may
recall,
from
our
conversation
back
in
july
general
fund
purposes
such
as
salaries
and
benefits
for
our
employees,
police
and
fire.
L
Operations-
well,
I'm
not
unlike
other
counselors,
in
that
I
certainly
would
like
to
find
a
way
to
generate
money
into
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
I
think
everybody
would
but
the
way
this
stands
right
now.
L
I
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
I
would
be
supporting
if
I
supported
this,
so
those
are
just
my
comments
and
I
think
that
it
needs
a
little
clarity.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Okay,
councilwoman
cassette
sanchez:
did
you
remember
your
other
question
or
thought
regarding
this
and
then
I'll
go
to
councilwoman
v
hill
koppler
for
the
last
word
on
this.
F
Yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
You
know
this
was
actually
that
was
part
of
my
question.
Was
the
percentage
breakdown
yeah?
I
I
think
that
there
I
think
that
I
would
agree
that
there
are
some
aspects
of
this
that
I'm
not
entirely
sure
what
this
means.
I
I
know
that
our
previous
there
was
this
report
that
said
that
we
are
leaving
about
three
million
dollars
on
the
table.
That
was
done
in
2018..
F
H
Mr
chair
counselor,
that
number
has
not
been
confirmed
by
the
city.
I
think
that
was
an
independent
report
and
the
idea
was
the
short-term
rentals
needed
to
start
reporting,
not
just
and
paying
not
just
lodgers
tax
to
the
city
but
the
grt
as
well
to
the
state
so
that
it
could
be
our
share.
The
city
share
could
be
remitted
back
to
the
city
and
so
to
be
able
to
again,
because
we
don't
receive
the
detailed
information
on
the
short-term
rental
industry.
H
F
Okay,
okay,
thank
you,
yeah.
I
think
that
there's
there's
some
pieces
of
clarity
that
I
would
like
to
get
more
information
on
and-
and
I
really
appreciate-
counselor
v
hill
coupler
here
being
here
and
being
able
to
hear
some
of
those
pieces
so
that
she
can,
you
know,
be
looking
at
that
and
help
us
determine
those
as
we
continue
to
consider
this
amendment
throughout
the
process.
So
thank
you
very
much.
M
You
know
we
get
comments
like
that,
all
the
time
in
the
newspaper
in
letters
to
our
faces
everywhere
and
here's
an
opportunity
to
do
something:
it's
not
going
to
solve
all
the
problems
that
everybody
has
raised
tonight,
but
it
is
true,
it
is
one
stream
and
I
don't
believe
we're
ever
gonna
find
one
total
hundred
percent
stream
of
funding
for
affordable
housing.
We
have
to
take
bits
and
pieces
from
nooks
and
crannies
and
put
some
money
toward
the
fund.
M
This
would
only
be
one
stream
and
it
is
written
rather
loosely.
We
felt
like
the
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
put
a
number
or
necessarily
a
percentage.
Maybe
a
percentage
is
more
fair,
but
we
would
have
to
do
estimates
on
a
yearly
basis,
probably
through
budget
preparation
and
the
data,
the
revenue
that
we
have.
That's
why
it's
open-ended,
but
somewhere
somebody
figured
out
in
this
municipal
tax
ordinance.
M
They
could
out
how
much
would
go
to
transit,
to
libraries,
to
parks
and
and
and
all
of
that,
I'm
sure
we
could
figure
thing
out,
and
I
don't
I
don't,
as
you
can
see,
from
how
it's
written
the
affordable
housing
monies
that
would
come
in
from
short-term
rentals,
wouldn't
be
asking
for
the
whole
piece
of
the
pie.
It
would
be
a
portion
of
it
and
again
that's
what
would
be
estimated
and
we
do
that
with
the
lodgers
tax
fund.
M
The
information
I
have
was
that
the
the
grt
estimate
report
was
done
by
homewise
and
they
estimated
in
2018
that
the
income
from
santa
fe
cities,
short-term
rental,
is
between
1.5
and
2
million
dollars.
M
So
you
know
that
that
is
not
something
that
this
particular
amendment
would
take
all
and
leave
nothing
for
anything
else,
but
it
it
is
one
revenue
stream
and
we
rarely
get
a
chance
to
again
make
any
impact
or
dent
in
affordable
housing,
and
it's
not
the
the
this
amendment's
not
going
to
solve
it.
But
it's
going
to
do
something
for
the
program
and
the
thing
I
like
about
it
is
that
it
it.
M
It
recognizes
some
of
the
public
comment
we
had
about
spending
time
on
short-term
rentals
versus,
affordable
housing,
and
I
mentioned
earlier
if
we
closed
up
all
of
all
short-term
rentals
those
houses
and
such
would
never
be
in
the
short-term
rental
housing
program,
because
they're
just
it's
just
unmarketable
like
that.
That's
just
not
the
way
it
works
so,
but
this
is
an
opportunity
to
use
like
funds
for
like
funds,
and
this
was
this-
was
brought
up
by
the
mayor's
housing
coalition
task
force.
This
is
a
recommendation
from
them.
M
They've
they've
spent
many
many
times
studying
all
of
the
issues
related
to
housing,
and
this
is
one
and
it's
not
again
a
perfect
ends
all
to
be
all.
But
it's
something,
and
we
rarely
have
the
time
I
mean
not
to
we
rarely
have
the
pleasure
of
finding
a
revenue
source.
No
one
here
who
says
we'd
rather
have
another
revenue
source
has
identified
where
that
would
come
from,
but
there's
something
before
you
today,
something
that
can
make
a
dent
in
it.
M
And
if
we
don't
like
it
down
the
road,
then
we
change
it,
but
here's
something
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
do
and
we
have
an
opportunity
to
to
put
our
money
where
our
mouth
is.
We
can't
just
be
saying
we're
for
affordable
housing
and
do
nothing
about
it
now.
Alexander
ladd
is
doing
wonderful
things
with
it,
but
it's
not
enough.
It's
barely
making
a
dent,
and
so
here's
an
opportunity-
and
I
would
I
would
urge
this
committee
to
support
this.
M
It's
not
it's
not
rocket
science
to
figure
out
how
much
money
we
would
get.
There's
codes
already
in
place
in
the
new
mexico
code
for
this
revenue
we
just
need
to
parcel
it
out
a
bit
more
and,
and
even
we
could
maybe
get
that
from
records
that
the
planning
and
land
use
office
should
have,
because
they
know
how
much
short-term,
how
many
short-term
rentals
we
have.
M
That
wouldn't
be
our
purpose,
but
at
least
my
point
is
it
would
give
us
an
idea
of
what
what
monies
we're
looking
at.
So
I
would.
I
would
urge
you
to
think
about
this
again,
because
again
we
have
a
rare
opportunity
to
really
put
the
money
where
our
mouth
is,
and
that
is
that
we
are
a
council
who
supports
affordable
housing
and
we're
not
going
to
let
this
opportunity
slip
away.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
councilwoman
drawn
real
coppler.
We
have
a
motion
we
have
amendments
are.
Does
the
committee
want
to
consider
an
amendment
to
the
amendment
or
an
amendment
to
the
motion
that
is
on
the
table
right
now?
G
A
A
I
don't
I
don't
know
I'll,
tell
you
what
let's
let's
have,
let's,
let's
go
ahead
and
vote
on
the
the
the
I
guess
mr
sherry
said.
I
think
we
since
we're
a
committee.
We
can
do
things,
we
don't
have
to
be
as
strict
as
the
the
governing
body.
Let's
act
on,
let's
act
on
this
motion,
that's
in
front
of
us
that
has
the
original
sponsor
amendments.
D
Mr
chair
there's
a
motion
on
the
floor.
If,
if
a
member
of
the
committee
wants
to
move
take
action
on
either
of
these
amendments
provided
by
non-committee
members,
they
have
that
ability
so
counselor
via
real.
If
you
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
add
one
or
both
of
these
amendments
to
the
bill
with
the
sponsors
amendments,
you
can.
G
Do
that
I
don't
understand
why
we're
doing
them
all
together,
instead
of
but
having
a
motion
to
look
at
the
first
amendment
and
then
the
other
two
amendments
separately,
not
as
not
to
improve
not
to
approve
the
overall
up
str
ordinance,
because
that
I
want
to
do,
and
I
think
that
the
amendments
should
be
separate
like
we
normally
do.
So
I
don't
understand
how
to
vote
or
make
some.
D
Can't
do
that,
we,
you
are
one
of
the
sponsors
on
the
amendment
that
has
been
on
the
amendment
that
has
been
put
forward
with
the
motion
to
adopt
the
bill
with
the
sponsors
amendment.
So
that's
on
the
floor.
We
can
vote
that
up
or
down
and
move
on
to
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
or,
if
there's
a
counselor,
who
wants
to
make
a
motion
to
add
one
or
both
of
these
amendments
made
by
non-committee
members.
G
A
Right
because
the
problem
is,
if
you
act
on
the
ordinance
with
an
amendment,
then
it's
done
right
and
so
well
so,
okay,
so
it
can't
be
done.
If
so,
how
do
you,
if
we're
interested
in,
let's
say
the
grt
amendment?
If
it's
already
done,
we
won't
have
an
opportunity
to
bring
that
bring
that
up
or
vote
on.
That
is
that
right.
A
Okay,
so
is
there
is
there?
Does
someone
want
to
amend
the
existing
motion
to
include
councilwoman
v
hill
koppler's
amendment.
N
A
Okay,
so
that
dies
for
the
lack
of
a
second.
Is
there
an
motion
to
amend
the
motion
to
increase
questions.
A
What
was
that
councilman
viral
did
someone?
Second,
it
nobody
seconded
your
motion.
A
A
Okay,
so
we
are
back
to
the
original
motion
with
the
amendments
as
proposed
by
the
councilwoman
romero
worth
originally.
C
Yes,
thank
you.
Counselor
carol,
romero
worth.
D
C
Okay,
counselor.
A
F
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
I
just
want
to
say
that,
with
the
grt
amendment
I
just
was
not
ready
to,
I
did
not
feel
ready
to
vote
on
this
based
on
wanting
to
see
a
little
bit
more
of
how
this
would
actually
be
processed
in
the
city
and
so
between
now
and
when
we
do
take
a
final
vote
on
that,
I
would
just.
I
would
be
really
interested
in
hearing
more
about
that
process,
so
I
believe
that
might
be
a
request
for
ms
mccoy
or
perhaps
for
counselor
view
hill
coupler.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
think
there's
ways
to
dissect
this
a
little
bit
better,
the
grt
amendment,
so
that
everybody
understands
the
possibilities
and
maybe
even
ways
to
like
re-structure
it.
So
I
can
work.
I
I'd
like
to
work
with
councilwoman
v
hill
coupler
on
that,
and
also
with
some
of
our
staff,
to
understand
that
better,
because
I
think
there's
there's
some
there.
There
may
be
some
possibilities
that
we're
not
considering.
G
So
I
want
to
just
put
that
out
there,
and
I
would
also
invite
counselor
garcia
to
continue
on
in
the
next
committee
that
he's
part
of
to
bring
up
an
amendment,
and
so
it
can
be
considered
at
least
voted
on,
so
that
people
know
where
we
stand
on
that
and
that's
all
thanks.
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
ms
mccoy.
A
I
would
I
would
like
to
have
you
report
back
to
the
finance
committee,
an
estimate
of
what
you
think
this
ordinance
and
proposed
amendment
would
generate
as
far
as
new
revenue
and-
and
maybe
you
know-
I
don't
know-
if
I'm
in
favor
of
designating
it,
but
it
would
be
good
to
have
an
amount,
and
maybe
an
amendment
to
that
amendment
is
that
we
find
some
kind
of
funding
source
equal
to
that
amount,
so
that
we're
not
tying
up
the
actual
grt,
because,
as
we
put
our
budget
together,
we
we
want
that
flexibility,
but
I
think
we
do
have
to
start
somewhere.
A
I
think
we
need
to
start
having
a
discussion
about
that
again
and
talks
about
how
we
could
fund
it
and
I
think,
a
a
star
is
this
grt
or
an
estimate
that's
equal
to
it.
So
thank
you,
mr.
H
A
Okay,
councilwoman
worth.
D
I
just
add
that
this
isn't
new
revenue.
This
is
revenue
that
we
already
put
in
our
general
fund
and
that
we
already
allocate
through
the
budget
process
towards
our
priorities
in
any
one
given
budget
cycle.
So
I
I
would
agree,
I
would
love
to
find
new
revenue
that
we
can
put
towards
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
But
this
is
not
new
revenue.
We're
taking
money
from
the
general
fund,
which
we
as
we
have
heard,
is
already
fully
allocated
for
this
year,
so
we
would
be
having
to
take
it
away
from
somewhere
else.
A
Okay,
well,
like
I
said,
I
think
this
committee
needs
to
continue
to
discuss
this
issue.
Okay,
thank
you
to
councilwoman
b
hill
koppler
and
counselor
garcia
for
joining
us
on
this
issue.
We
appreciate
it.
Okay.
That
brings
us
to
item
b,
which
is
a
request
for
approval
of
the
2019-2020
capper
to
be
submitted
to
the
hud
councilwoman
cassette
sanchez.
F
There
you
go.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
simply
wanted
to
pull
this
because
I
found
the
charts
to
not
be
very
intuitive
to
read,
and
so
I
was
just
hoping
to
have
ms
ladd
walk
through
those
for
any
anybody
else
who
was
looking
at
this.
I
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
her
about
it
today,
but
it
is
because
of
how
hud
has
us
report
things.
F
O
O
Are
you
in
primegov?
No,
I
was
not
able
to
get
into
primegov
for
some
reason,
so
I'm
just
looking
at
it
from
the
city's
website
where
we
have
it
posted.
So
what
I
can
do,
maybe
if
I
pull
up
the
actual
word
doc,
let
me
do
that.
F
O
O
Okay,
the
way
this
report
is
formatted
is
that
it
is
responding
directly
to
our
annual
action
plan,
which
we
have
we
submitted
to
hud
in
the
beginning
before
the
program
year
began.
So
this
is
the
2019
20
program
year,
so
this
was
over
on
june
30th
of
2020..
O
O
It
is
all
also
all
related
to
a
five-year
plan
called
the
consolidated
plan
that
we
submit
to
hud
and
what
this
table
is
trying
to
do,
and
I
say
trying
to
do
because
it
it
doesn't
work
very
well,
is
trying
to
tie
what
our
current
accomplishments
are
through
this
allocating
cbd
funds
with
what
we
said,
we
would
do
in
our
five-year
strategic
plan
so
that
that
column,
that
is,
the
expected
and
actual
percent
complete
and
then
the
expected
for
the
program
year
and
the
actual
and
the
percent
complete.
O
So
the
the
columns
on
the
right
side
that
are
labeled
program
year.
Those
are
a
little
easier
to
explain
so
that
those
numbers
are
the
numbers
we
thought
we
would
achieve
based
on
our
applications.
For
funds
under
the
expected
column
and
then
what
we
actually
achieved
and
you
can
see,
there's
a
big
crazy.
O
We
had
a
huge
accomplishment,
an
over
accomplishment
in
the
area
of
public
services,
because
when
the
pandemic
hit,
so
many
people
were
accessing
referral
and
information
from
the
adelante
program.
So
that's
kind
of
where
that,
like
crazy
2400
percent
accomplishment
comes
from.
The
second
intention
with
this
table
is
to
tie
the
funding
allocations
with
the
goals
that
we've
set
out
in
our
five-year
plan.
As
what
we're
we're
hoping
to
achieve
all
of
the
columns
under
the
categories
and
the
indicators,
I
have
no
choice
over
any
of
those.
There
are
a
drop
down
menu.
O
I
have
to
pick
what
hud
allows
me
to
pick,
and
so
it
can
be
a
little
bit
clunky
and
not
make
a
whole
lot
of
sense.
I
think
counselor
cassette
sanchez
was
sort
of
wondering
earlier
in
our
conversation
like
well.
What's
the
difference
between
public
facility
and
public
infrastructure
and
the
difference
would
be
the
facility
is
where
somebody
would
go
to
access
services
or
an
amenity,
and
the
infrastructure
is
kind
of
what
gets
them
there?
O
The
road,
the
sidewalk,
the
steps
up
to
the
front
door
and
and
both
of
those
things,
the
most
important
thing
about
them-
is
that
they're
public
they're
for
anybody
to
access-
and
I
think,
was
that
about
it,
counselor
sanchez
or
did
you
have?
Did
you
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
more.
F
Yeah
that
that
was
it
we
had
had
a
more
I'm
sorry,
I
had
it.
I
had
a
child
screaming
for
a
minute.
So
maybe
you
did
cover
this.
The
discussion
of
the
consolidated
versus
strategic
plan
did
you?
Did
you
discuss
that,
while
my
kid
was
screaming
in
my
ear
yeah.
O
So
I
probably
didn't
add
enough
detail
the
consolidated
plan,
this
five-year
plan,
one
section
of
the
five-year
plan-
is
called
the
strategic
plan
and
then
every
year,
through
this
annual
action
plan,
we
update
what
we
said.
We
were
going
to
do
in
the
strategic
plan
now.
This
is
crazy
and
I've
been
doing
this.
This
report
for
15
years
of
my
life
almost
and
there's
still
it's
not
very
clear
what
hud
is
aiming
for
between
the
expected
and
the
strategic
plan
and
the
actual
and
the
strategic
plan.
O
So
I
think
because
these
numbers
are
actually
are
pre-loaded
into
the
system,
so
that
237,
I
think
what
that's
saying
so
under
the
actual
strategic
plan.
I
think
the
237
is
based
on
what
we
reported
for
the
last
in
the
last
caper.
So
it's
trying
to
keep
track
for
us,
which
is
great,
but
it
can
also
be
a
little
confusing
because
you
there
are
ways
where
it
can
get
edited,
and
so
sometimes
I
have
to
go
back
and
look
and
try
to
remember
like.
Where
did
that?
O
F
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
alexandra.
I
just
I
really.
I
really
struggled
with
this
table,
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
brought
it
up
and
that
you
had
the
opportunity
to
explain
it,
as
you
did
to
me
this
afternoon
for
anybody
else
who
was
watching
and
was
curious.
So
that
was
all
thank
you.
I
moved
to
a
proof.
B
Miss
mccoy
can
someone
take
a
roll
call.
I've
got
it
here.
Council
romana
beta,
yes,
councillor,
renee.
D
A
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair
hi,
regina.
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us.
I
just
had
a
question.
I
know
that
when
the
initial
voting
occurred
was
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
have
the
looks
like
2003
when
they
spoke
with
the
residents
of
this
area
and
do
we
know
how
many
of
those
residents
are
still
there
has
there
been
a
lot
of
turnover
because
they
also
have
a
financial
component
they're
responsible
for
in
this?
As
I'm
understanding
it
here,.
P
And
thank
you
so
much
for
the
question.
I'm
chairman
council
cassette
sanchez.
Actually
we've
been
in
regular
communication
with
the
residents
on
a
daily
basis
and
they
have
all
of
their
money
put
together
and
they're
ready
to
go.
F
A
D
C
Councillor
sidney
lindell,
yes
and
counselor.
Jamie
cassette
sanchez.
F
L
Yeah,
I'm
just
asking
for
a
little
explanation
on
this,
considering
where
we
are
what
we've
faced
with
our
budget,
an
explanation
of
we're.
Looking
at,
I
don't
know,
50
some
million
if
you
could
just
run
through
that
a
little
bit
mary
and
tell
us
what
we're
facing
with
it.
And
if
it's
a
fiscally
prudent
thing.
H
Yes,
mr
chair
counselor,
thank
you
for
the
question.
We
also
have
I'm
going
to
just
go
over
a
few
opening
remarks,
and
then
we
have
andy
hopkins
from
our
budget
office
here
as
well
to
dive
into
the
details.
What
you
see
presented
in
front
of
you
today
is
all
of
the
budget
adjustments
that
have
been
done
within
the
first
quarter.
The
majority
of
these
fall
into
the
category
of
the
cares
act.
Funding
so
about
12,
13
million
for
cares,
act
funding
that
was
approved
by
council.
H
In
addition
to
that,
what
council
has
not
seen
until
this
point
in
time
is
the
significant
reallocation
of
capital
funding
and
of
grant
funding,
and
so
that
particular
amount
council
did
authorize
me
as
the
finance
the
finance
director
to
carry
these
funds
forward
for
to
continue
operations.
H
So,
for
example,
if
the
capital
project
wanted
to
continue,
we
did
not
have
to
wait
until
it
got
through
the
two-week
council
approval
process
to
continue
this.
These
are
allocations
of
funding
that
are
moving
from
one
fiscal
year
to
the
next
fiscal
year,
and
so
for
that
purpose
the
revenue
has
already
been
allocated.
A
significant
portion
of
these
carry
forward
either
for
grants
or
for
capital
projects
have
already
been
allocated
either
in
the
grt
bond
approval
process
or
in
a
grant
approval
process
in
a
prior
year
by
the
city
council.
H
So
that
being
said,
I'll
turn
it
over
to
andy
to
dive
into
more
detail
about
the
report,
and
we
stand
to
answer
any
questions
that
the
council
has.
N
Mr
chair
councilor
lindell,
there's
really
not
a
whole
lot.
I
can
add
to
that
mary
did
a
very
excellent
job
of
explaining
what
is
do
it
what's
going
on
here
and
I'm
not
just
saying
that
because
she's
my
boss,
but
the
the
one
piece
that
I
would
add
that
was
another
major
factor
in
this
is
the
the
cares
act,
grants
that
have
already
been
approved
by
the
council.
N
That
is
probably
next
to
the
capital
carry
forwards.
That
is
probably
the
largest
piece
of
what
you
are
seeing
and,
of
course,
that
is
all
grant
funded
to
the
federal
government
so
that
that
won't
really
impact
our
budget
in
terms
of
you
know,
already
allocated
revenues
or
anything
like
that.
That's
additional
money
coming
in
from
the
feds,
but
the
vast
majority
is,
is
covered
by
that
and
by
reauthorization
of
capital
projects
that
are
ongoing
and
have
already
been
bonded.
The
money
is
already
there.
N
L
Thank
you
very
much
chair.
I
would
make
a
motion
to
approve.
A
C
H
Mr
chair
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
brief
update
on
grt
for
the
month
of
august.
We
are
just
shy
of
14
decline
year
over
year
for
the
grt
when
you
compare
august
of
2019
jrt
revenue
to
august
of
2020
grt
revenue,
so
I
staff
has
put
together
that
memo
and
that
will
be
distributed
this
week
in
addition
to
that,
staff
has
also
prepared
an
economic
update
and
will
be
preparing
an
economic
update
on
a
monthly
basis
to
present
to
council
as
well.
H
H
If
there's
any
information
that
you
would
like
added
to
that
report,
we
can
look
for
a
regular
source
for
that
economic
information,
but
we
thought
it
was
important
to
since
grt
is
on
a
two-month
delay
to
be
able
to
provide
you
with
that
update
on
these
monthly
economic
indicators,
so
that
will
be
coming
your
way
as
well.
H
In
addition,
you
know
we
have
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
on
the
fy
19
audit,
I'm
sorry
the
fy
20
audit.
We
have
hired.
We
are
working
on
that
process.
We
have
hired
on
a
few
extra
contractors
to
assist
us
with
the
year-end
close
process,
and
this
is
extreme
we're
running
about
a
40
vacancy,
as
we
discussed
during
the
budget
hearings
in
the
finance
department-
and
this
has
been
an
extremely
you
know
that
combined
with
the
furloughs
has
been
an
extremely
difficult
year-end
closed
process
for
us.
H
So
we
are
still
continuing
diligently
to
work
through
those
challenges.
In
addition,
as
you
were
notified
via
email
from
the
city
manager
recently
within
the
last
month,
tyler
systems
are
which
runs
our
financial
hr
and
land
use
permitting
and
business
license
permitting
systems
were
there
was
a
security
breach
at
tyler.
H
H
So
I'll
continue
to
provide
these
reports
as
we
move
forward
as
we're
closing
fiscal
year
20.,
we
are
having
weekly
updates
with
the
mayor
and
the
city
manager
on
the
progress
that
the
finance
team,
as
well
as
city
departments,
are
having
in
terms
of
correcting
the
issues
that
were
raised
in
the
fy
19
audit
and
the
progress
for
the
fy
20
year.
End
close.
H
H
H
In
addition,
we
are
hoping
to
get
started
in
the
next
few
months,
we're
currently
working
on
fy,
22
revenue
projections,
and
we
are
hoping
to
get
started
on
the
official
budget
process
with
our
department
directors
for
fy22.
I
know
it
seems,
like
we
just
closed
fy21
on
budget
with
an
official
vote
in
july.
So
it's
very
quick
turnaround
for
us
to
start
working
on
fy22.
H
We
want
to
allow
plenty
of
time
to
plan
just
as
a
reminder.
We
did
three
different
budgets
in
for
fy21
since
january
of
last
year,
through
july,
through
the
budget
that
you
voted
on
in
july.
So
in
anticipation
of
continued
economic
uncertainty
and
revenue,
uncertainty
for
the
city,
we're
planning
on
getting
that
started
in
december
that
whole
process
to
be
able
to
plan
for
any
adjustments
as
the
monthly
economic
and
grt
revenue
comes
our
way.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
want
to
put
in
a
plug.
The
quality
of
life
committee
is
meeting
on
wednesday
and
we
are
kicking
off
with
a
couple
of
presentations
that
will
help
us
to
understand
the
housing
situation,
affordable,
housing
situation
and
homelessness
issues
in
our
city.
This
will
be
the
first
of
what
I
would
consider
a
four
to
five
month,
deep
dive
into
our
housing
issues,
and
I
just
want
to
let
everybody
know
that
we
are
doing
things
as
a
city
we'll
be
hearing
about
that.
D
The
need
is
incredible
and
probably
growing,
and
there
are
more
things
we
can
do,
and
I
just
want
folks
to
know
that
we
are
starting
to
pay
some
serious
attention
to
to
the
policy
objectives
that
we
can
bring
to
bear
on
on
a
really
important
issue,
so
just
wanted
to
give
that
plug.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
A
Okay
and
on
that
note,
miss
mccoy,
can
we
kind
of
follow
a
parallel
track
as
a
finance
committee
and
focus
on
the
the
financial
part
of
that
like,
for
example,
I
I
would
like
a
presentation
from
the
affordable
housing
trust
regarding
the
fund,
maybe
as
a
starting
place.
Something
real
brief,
because
I
hear
different
amounts
like
we
should
be
putting
one
million
in
every
year.
No,
we
should
be
putting
three.
Realistically,
though,
this
is
what
we
should
be
spending
or
can
spend.
A
So
I
would
like
to
get
a
a
an
overview
from
the
the
fund
so
that
I
could
re-familiarize
myself
with
it
and
then,
if
you
can
also
start
working
on
the
estimates
that
I
asked
for
earlier
about
the
short-term
rental
and
then,
if
you
can
think,
and
maybe
as
we
go
on
this
parallel
track,
if
we
can
think
of
other
potential
sources
of
either
existing
revenue
or
new
revenue
that
we
can
put
towards
this
affordable
housing
initiative,
I'd
like
to
to
start
exploring
that
again
from
a
financial
perspective.
A
Our
next
meeting
is
november
30th.
So
thank
you
and
have
a
good
evening.