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City Finance Budget Hearings Day 5
B
A
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
call
to
order
the
meeting
of
the
Finance
Committee.
We
are
on
day
four
I
believe
of
our
budget
hearings,
but
it
is
day
five
day
five
of
our
budget,
we're
still
on
day
four
for
the
business
we
have
to
take
care
of
our
so
can
I
have
a
roll
call.
Please
here
he's
on
his
way,
she's
here.
A
Okay.
Thank
you.
Our
first
item
is
our
Public
Utilities
Department
and
mr.
Jones.
Oh
yes,
I'm!
Sorry,
so
we've
got
on
today's
agenda,
yesterday's
business,
which
was
the
Public
Utilities
Department,
and
then
we
will
go
into
today's
agenda,
which
is
planning
and
land-use
department
office
of
affordable
housing
and
office
of
economic
development.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye.
Those
opposed
motion
carries
okay,
so
that
brings
us
to
our
Public
Utilities
Department.
Mr.
Jones.
We
we
have
the
your
proposed
budget
as
I.
A
Look
at
the
summaries
by
category
overall,
your
budget
is
down
by
fifteen
point
one
percent
there's
a
slight
increase
in
salaries,
wages
and
benefits
of
2.4
percent,
contractuals
and
utilities
down
twenty
nine
point:
eight
percent
repairs
and
maintenance
down
by
10
percent
supplies
down
twelve
point:
four
percent
insurance,
2.7
percent.
Other
operating
costs
is
up
by
eight
point:
five
percent
capital
purchases
down
five
point:
seven
percent
debt
service
is
up
by
twenty
five
point:
three
percent
and
then
transfers
to
other
funds
is
down
by
sixty
seven
percent.
So
what
that
mr.
B
Mr.
chair
members
of
the
committee,
yes
and
the
FY
Tony
recommended
budget
for
PUD
there's
an
overall
decrease
stated
in
the
city.
That's
twelve
point:
three
million
a
majority
that
is
made
up
by
a
couple
of
transfers
that
occurred
last
year
having
to
do
with
our
digester
project.
As
the
project
began
to
kick
off,
there
was
some
money
that
was
moved
about
eight
point:
six
million
dollars
that
was
on
that
with
cash,
so
that
showed
an
uptick.
B
But
ultimately
the
reduction
is
about
3.7
million,
taking
that
the
digester
money
moving
aside,
but
really
dumb,
and
it
is
little
do
through
the
budget
on
want
decreases.
Most
of
the
work
that
we
did
was
realigning
our
budget
with
actuals
to
continue
to
try
to
work
to
realign.
Those
I
would
like
to
highlight
a
couple
of.
A
D
I
mean
I,
provided
some
written
questions.
I
don't
know.
Do
we
have
the
answers
in
writing?
If
we
had
four
public
works,
if
not
you
do
okay.
Well,
then,
I'll.
Ask
some
other
questions.
So
increasingly
one
of
the
things
myself
and
even
asked
yesterday
of
Ms
McCoy
to
by
Department
look
at
the
monies
that's
allocated
for
training,
it's
called
training,
slash
tuition
I
would
propose.
We
change
it
to
training,
slash
professional
development
because
I
think
that's
really
what
should
be
talking
about.
D
This
is
just
an
example.
There's
I
think
there's
others
line
items
but
thousand
dollars.
It
was
a
thousand
dollars.
It
was
zero
according
to
this
in
seventeen
and
eighteen,
a
thousand
dollars
in
nineteen
thousand
dollars
in
twenty-
and
maybe
this
is
a
question
for
but
I
think
if
I
were
to
go
through
and
highlight
every
line
item
and
then
ventually
will
have
that
information.
I
think
we
would
find
it
to
be
low,
pretty
consistently.
There's
the
exception
of
HR.
They
seem
to
have
a
training
budget.
B
D
B
I,
don't
know
if
it's
I
to
a
percentage
but
like
so
specifically
within
the
wastewaters
budget,
I
believe
allocated
about
$15,000
for
training,
that
specific
line
item
but
again
also
know
within
their
program
that
they
have
calendar
set
up
for
each
month
so
like
in
safety,
safety
training
occurs
monthly
and
also
employee
development
occurs
monthly
trainings
that
are
done
outside
things
like
certification
or
or
treating
this
type
to
again.
Development
of
employee,
regional
short
schools,
conferences,
workshops.
B
D
B
I
think
there's
always
room
for
improvement,
we're
all
things
that
we
can
do
better.
I
think
it
does
fluctuate
so
putting
it
back
on
the
managers
to
really
derive
a
training
schedule
and
then
I
went
to
budget
development.
We
roll
those
costs
up,
for
example,
with
Environmental
Services
training
could
fall
with
under
registration.
D
Absolutely
but
I
mean
again
given
the
work
that
utilities
does
in
terms
of
operating
a
lot
of
equipment
and
I'm
talking.
You
know
environmental
services
when
I
say
that
as
well
as
wastewater
and
water
and
everything
else,
and
some
of
us,
of
course,
highly
technical
as
well,
which
you
know
really
involves
that
considered
professional
development.
Oh
well,
that's
I'm
pleased
to
hear
that
councillor.
G
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H
Just
want
to
know
that
they're
appropriate
expenditures
I'm
not
really
saying
that
it
if
it's
the
state's
money.
Well,
it's
okay
to
spend
it.
If
it's
not
our
money,
my
point
being
that
it
says
out-of-state
per
diem,
then
we
have
an
in-state
per
diem
and
we
have
an
out-of-state
transportation.
I,
just
I.
Don't
think
that
those
numbers
add
up
very
well
I,
don't
know
how
many
people
are
going
to
those
conventions
or
where
they
are
or
what
a.
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H
C
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C
H
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J
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C
C
D
D
Well,
that's
yeah!
Here
it
is
well.
The
change
is
a
million
five
thousand
the
previous
year
I'm
looking
at
utilities.
Well,
this
is
swm
administration,
age,
seven,
thirty,
seven
point:
seven!
They
see
I
want
to
I.
Just
repeat
what
I
think
I
heard
you
say
and
I
think
most
everybody
knows
that
that
I
sit
on.
D
At
any
rate,
you
know,
I
haven't
having
sat
on
that
board
for
a
few
years.
I
have
a
lot
of
confidence
in
mr.
Tipton
brock's
numbers
to
tell
you
the
truth,
and
so
this
is
generated
by
mr.
Kip
and
Brock.
Then
I
think
that's
probably
where
we're
going
to
end
up,
but
I
do.
As
you
said,
I
do
know
that
there's
an
RFP
out
see
what
happens.
I
think
we'll
probably
be
back
with
or
continue
with
Freedman.
D
D
K
D
And
then
jumping
down
since
your
since
you're
there
jumping
down
to
the
question
on
grants
and
services,
100
percent
decrease,
that's
in
wastewater
and
then
the
next
question
in
water.
It's
a
100
percent
decrease,
that's
2.8.
The
first
one
is
five
point
is
five
hundred
fifty
three
thousand,
so
your
answer
seems
to
relate
to
what
we
just
talked
about
in
terms
of
the
interfund.
D
D
Then
back
up
on
software
subscriptions
just
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
who
all's
in
there
badger
at
308
for
the
meter,
reading
Mountain
River
for
utility
billing
700k
virtuoso
more
details,
but
I
guess
probably
my
question
was
having
to
do
with
discussions.
We've
had
in
the
past
protecting
the
water
division
on
billing
and
some
of
the
issues
there
with
the
upgrade.
B
Contract
mr.
chair
also
Harris
members
of
the
committee
are
going
to
that.
What
I
could
point
out
is
the
questions
you
provided
there's
actually
two
responses
that
went.
These
are
actually
Andy's
responses
to
the
questions.
It
was
a
different
email
that
I
responded
to
your
questions
and
I'm
more
than
happy
to
circulate
that.
F
D
D
B
Talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
talk
to
us
a
little
bit
about
that
chairman
Kelso
Harris
members
of
the
committee.
I,
would
love
to
tell
you
that
we
have
reduced
all
of
the
accounts
receivable
and
therefore
not
pleased
that
means
anymore.
That
is
not
the
case.
Ultimately,
a
lot
of
the
reduction
comes
back
to
actuals
and
the
fact
that
we
have
automated
the
lien
process
and
working
very
closely
with
Senate
eight
counties
to
streamline
that
process,
where
my
perspective
was
costume,
the
utility
$25
to
follow
the
Ichi
lien.
B
B
D
D
B
Trying
to
find
new
ways
to
incentivize
and
help
customers
again
find
ways
to
conserve
water,
but
realistically,
when
it
comes
to
the
budgeting,
be
a
more
closer
to
actuals.
I
would
love
to
come
back
before
the
governing
body
and
and
say
that
those
programs
have
up
ticked
I.
Just
don't
see
it
happening
in
this
current
fiscal
year
and
I
think
those
budget
is
more
realistic
of
where
we
are
until
we
can
get
more
programs
underway.
D
201
last
thing-
and
this
is
not
the
question
I
put
in
writing
and
I-
don't
even
think
this
is
the
right
time,
but
thinking
about
the
water
fund
and
wastewater
fund
and
what
those
amounts
are
and
how
it
relates
to
a
capital
program
within
each
of
those
divisions.
When
would
we
be
talking
about
that?
Not
now
talking
about
what
your
capital
programs
look
like,
he
talked
around
a
little
bit
when
we
lowered
the
bond
for
the
digester
project.
D
L
Chairman
councillor,
Harris
later
today,
in
the
section
of
the
agenda
for
staff
follow-up,
we're
going
to
be
passing
out
a
capital
outlay
sheath.
We
will
be
having
a
capital
outlay
hearing
to
review
these
projects
tomorrow,
and
there
are
some
of
the
capital
outlay
projects
for
the
public
utilities
as
well.
We
have
the
ability
to
meet
with
the
department,
has
the
ability
to
meet
with
the
Finance
Committee
and
the
governing
body
every
two
weeks
to
bring
any
additional
projects
forward,
as
director
Jones
mentioned,
with
the
advanced
billing
software.
B
Thank
you,
Mary
chairman
members
of
committee,
yes
and
utilities
mainly
driven
around
the
water
water,
has
many
capital
improvement
projects
as
well
as
wastewater.
Those
are
discussions
that
happen
with
the
engineer
section
daily.
We
do
come
periodically
before
the
public
utilities
committee,
with
updates
on
our
capital
projects.
B
We
are
working
very
close
with
the
Finance
Committee
for
ongoing
projects,
current
CIPS
that
are
underway
for
the
RIA
Corporation,
which
we
included
and
we've
also
met
with
Public
Works
and
continuing
conversations
with
them,
really
what
I
would
probably
characterize
as
a
facilities
based
capital
project
and
where
we
touch
public
works,
where
we
integrate
communication
between
when
we
dig
up
streets
and
when
they
pave
them
and
make
sure
that
time
it
is
correct,
then
more
systemic
CIP
tanks,
boosters
plan
upgrades,
and
so
again
we
do
have
that
information.
It's.
B
D
B
B
B
We
did
a
lot
of
work
and
a
lot
of
modeling
to
again
mitigate
that
impact,
mainly
driven
by
the
fact
that,
on
the
bond,
we
do
defer
that
we
only
pay
interest
for
a
couple
of
years,
I'm
not
necessary
because
of
the
money,
but
because
of
the
debt
service
ratio,
making
sure
that
doesn't
both
a
level
of
service
and
by
deferring
the
payment
allowing
other
investments
to
transpire
we're
able
to
kind
of
avoid
that
rate
increase,
which
probe
wastewater
in
a
good
position.
I'm.
B
Currently
this
mouse,
my
understanding
that
water
is
also
in
a
good
position.
We're
currently
working
with
the
task
force
detectors,
look
at
the
structure,
not
necessarily
of
the
right
operational
cost
and
the
revenues
that
come
in,
but
how
we
delineate
those
costs
and
I'm
looking
very
forward
to
having
those
conversations
and
open
dialogues
with
our
task
force.
How
do
we
currently
do
business.
B
M
B
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B
M
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C
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B
B
Elasticity
here
that
those
individuals
resided
within
the
finance
department
but
effective
July
1st
of
this
year,
I
think
the
changes
that
we're
seeing
is
reflecting
that
change
of
ownership
from
from
utilities
beam
into
the
general
fund
to
provide
to
the
finest
Department
us
us
of
taking
on
those
responsibilities.
Then.
B
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B
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B
B
Do
work
with
public
works
for
the
facility
management.
I
know
Ameresco
was
on
site,
they
have
are
our
assets
listed
in
their
software
system
that
identifies
the
conditional
assessment
and
we
work
very
closely
with
those
repairs
needed.
There
are
a
couple
of
projects
that
we
do
have
listed
on
there
there's
some
rule
for
prayers
that
have
to
occur.
F
B
A
A
6660
is
in
line
what
miss
McCoy
explained
to
us
yesterday
or
the
day
before
about
overtime,
you're
taking
the
last
two
years
averaging
it
and
that's
how
you're
basing
the
the
overtime,
so
it
I
mean.
If
you
don't
look
at
the
other
two.
It
looks
like
you're
going
from
ninety
thousand
to
six
thousand,
but
when
you
actually
look
at
the
actuals,
that's
in
line
with
what
we've
been
hearing,
Thank
You
counselor.
M
B
M
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C
M
M
It's
my
other
question.
There's
another
part
of
the
per
diem
rule
where,
if
you
go,
let's
say
to
New
York
Board
conference,
which
is
much
higher
expense
rate.
I
think
certain
cities
are
have
a
certain
value
of
per
diem,
so
someplace,
like
New
York,
might
be
$150
a
day
per
diem.
Where
some,
you
know
some
small
small
city
where
you
may
be
going,
may
only
be
$60.
Is
that
correct?
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A
N
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
just
to
clarify
and
I
apologize.
If
you
might
have
answered
this
before
I
walked
in
I,
think
it's
just
to
understand
the
numbers
and
it's
great
to
get
all
the
details
of
the
divisions.
But
it
also
then
has
us
picking
apart
things.
So,
thanks
for
being
with
us
on
page
12
for
environmental
services,
I
didn't
see
in
the
general
increases
for
any
staff,
but
the
salary
general
went
up
by
a
hundred
and
two
was
that
a
position.
N
L
As
we
have
reviewed
position,
looking
throughout
the
city,
we've
got
the
a
few
other
times.
We
have
started
to
make
correction,
potentially
positions
that
were
supposed
to
live
in
certain
business
units
that
have
not
previously
and
budgeted
to
those
positions,
but
it
was.
We
have
been
continuing
and
ensure
this
will
continue.
You
know
going
forward
as
well
as
we
start
to
understand
right
going
through
reorganization
citywide
as
well.
There
will
continue
to
be
these
changes
between
the
between
the
divisions
within
a
department.
That's
helpful.
C
Counselor
via
reality
every
year,
there's
a
shift
bid
to
add
to
add
to
the
issue
every
year,
there's
a
shift
bid,
and
so
we
have
shuffling
of
positions
or
people
from
from
one
section
to
another
and
to
the
problem,
and
so
our
pol
is
rarely
actually
reflects.
What
what
is
true
in
in
reality
and
so
really
glad
that
we've
been
working.
It.
N
P
L
Also,
to
clarify
the
listing
that
you
will
have
going
forward
for
each
of
the
department
will
be
the
last
page
of
the
narratives.
If
you
want
to
turn
to
that,
I.
Don't
have
public
utilities
in
front
of
me
right
now,
but
the
four
different
classifications
that
were
requested.
We
have
here
so
elected,
exempt
classified
in
term.
L
What
is
not
showing
here
is
any
seasonal
or
temporary
employees,
and
that
might
actually
be
what
gets
us
to
the
288
number
that
director
Jones
referenced
earlier,
so
that
would
not
be
on
here
and
those
are
subject
to
funding
as
well,
so
if
or
in
subject
to
need
what
I'm
sorry.
Mr.
chair,
what
are
we
looking
at.
G
P
P
Maybe
let
some
people
have
some
positions
and
departments
and
some
not
and
and
how
those
decisions
are
being
made.
But
you
know,
I
have
I
will
have
a
lot
more
questions
when
we
get
to
what
the
information,
the
information
that
you'll
provide.
What
I
want
to
know
on
this
particular
sheet
is
the
term
position
I,
guess
being
requested
or
it
was
approved,
and
now
it's
I
don't
understand
this
chart
display
your
recommended
position,
count
I
that
doesn't
mean
you're
requesting
a
term.
Does
it
it
just
means
you're
recommending
you
keep
your
positions
that
you
have.
L
So,
what's
the
for
chairman
counselor,
V,
Hill
coppler,
the
position
count
analysis
that
we
will
be
providing
with
each
department
and
then
a
total
reconciliation
city
wide
demonstrates
the
attention
to
detail
and
the
deep
dive
that
councillor
Harris
spoke
of
earlier.
That
HR
and
Finance
staff
have
gone
through
over
the
course
of
the
last
six
months,
working
with
each
of
the
departments
to
be
able
to
get
to
a
point
where
we
have
reconciled.
The
FY
19
approved
position
count,
which
is
what
you
see
in
one
column,
for
each
of
these
four
classifications.
L
Increase
of
classified
positions
of
four
and
that
changes
due
to
the
four
cashiers
moving
from
the
finance
department
budget
that
were
referenced
earlier
into
the
public
utilities
budget
and
the
reason
we
this
is
a
recommendation
is
because
the
funding
source
will
also
accompany
that
as
part
of
of
the
budget,
and
this
I
believe
is
an
extremely
helpful
tool
for
us
throughout
the
fiscal
year
as
we
continue
to
monitor
positions
and
where
they
said,
as
they
are
approved
by
the
governing
body.
Thank.
B
Q
Q
P
B
P
B
A
Lying
down,
and
so
all
of
all
fees
related
to
Buckman,
director
version
comes
out
of
that,
so,
in
other
words,
there's
not
separate
things
we
have
to
pay
for
throughout
the
year
from
different
places,
whatever
we
we
pay
like
now,
this
7.2
million
will
cover
everything
related
to
Buckman
director
version
lawsuits,
whatever
they're
dealing
with
that's
our
Sheriff.
That
is
correct.
Thank
you
and.
B
B
O
B
P
C
P
C
P
C
We
I
believe
that
was
designed
a
little
before
my
time,
but
as
I
have
been
directed
and
I
believe,
as
the
ordinance
is
written
with
a
little
bit
of
a
light,
touch
never
had
to
do
anything
too
draconian.
We
remind
most
people's
self-report
and
and
do
a
good
job
of
complying.
We
do
have
a
person
in
our
office
who
does
all
kinds
of
compliance
activities
for
for
the
various
solid
ways
things
and
he
does
the
bag
ordinance
as
well.
C
So
we're
all
on
the
lookout
and
if
anybody
reports
that
they,
you
know,
have
gotten
a
bag
that
violates
the
ordinance
we
go
out
there
in
person
and
remind
them,
bring
them
a
copy
of
the
ordinance
and
make
sure
they
get
back
in
line.
We
don't
have
you
know
any
kind
of
level
of
staffing
to
consistently
go
out
to
every
store
in
check.
So
there's
a
there's
there's
a
bit
of
reporting
that
we
rely
on
from
the
general
public
from
the
governing
body.
C
P
H
Well,
with
the
enterprise
funds
are
essentially
defined,
as
or
departments
that
generate
the
fees
to
cover
their
costs.
I,
don't
know
how
we're
going
to
be
able
to
generate
the
fees
to
cover
this
kind
of
cost.
Do
we
need
to
have
a
conversation
in
the
very
near
future
about
our
recycling
programs
and
our
environmental
services
remaining
an
enterprise
fund,
Thank.
C
You
councilman,
Dell
I,
believe
an
enterprise
fund
is
absolutely
the
best
kind
of
fun
for
environmental
services.
We
charge
rates.
We
have
many
different
rates,
as
you
know,
for
commercial
and
residential
collection.
We
actually
do
have
a
cost
of
service
study
underway
right
now,
and
it
coincides
with
the
cost
of
service
study
for
the
agency
and
so
they'll
be
we'll
be
able
to
have
it's
the
same.
C
It's
the
same
consultant,
doing
the
cost
of
service
study
and
we'll
be
bringing
all
of
that
information
forward
on
what
kind
of
rate
adjustments
we
may
need
to
have
to
to
make
sure
that
all
of
our
programs
are
viable.
We
do
have
recycling
processing
RFP.
That
is
open
right
now
and
information
about
how
that
contract
may
be
forward.
I
believe
you
should
be
coming
back
at
the
next
agency
meeting,
we'll
have
better
information
on
on
that
as
well.
So
I
firmly
believe
we're
we're
we're
in
a
good
place.
C
H
H
C
H
H
G
B
B
G
B
Use
so
again
the
intent
would
be
as
one
staff
came
forward
with
the
formalized
plan.
I
mean
what
the
costs
are
if
I
could,
if
I
could
facilitate
that
work
within
the
existing
budget.
That
would
be
my
preferred
intent
if
it's
not
the
typically
that
amount
of
effort
would
come
before
the
governing
body
for
approval
there.
None
of
that
contract
program
and
at
the
time
I
would.
B
A
R
G
If
I
can
just
add
to
that,
my
understanding
is,
you
know
we're
about
to
go
into
the
I
guess
what
you
called
a
high-demand
season
and
I
was
meeting
with
Christine
Chavez
about
the
water
conservation
meeting.
That's
coming
up
in
I,
don't
know
a
week
or-
and
we
can
have
something
like
that,
and
we
will
be
having
an
agenda
item
on
exactly
this
item
and
I.
My
understanding
is,
as
part
of
rolling
into
the
high
demand
season.
G
C
We've
really
been
able
to
start,
it
hasn't
been
a
matter
of
funds.
We
really
are
blessed
that
we
have
the
funds
to
do
the
outreach,
especially
because
of
the
bag
fee,
that
really
supplements
our
ability
to
do
advertising,
just
as
you
saw
the
sustainability
wrap
that
we
did
for
Earth
Day
commercials
coming
out.
C
You
know
there
was
a
little
hitch,
but
the
new
calendar
has
finally
come
out
and
it
is
chock
full
of
information,
and
the
calendar
next
year
will
actually
focus
on
the
sustainability
plan
and-
and
we
just
have
a
lot
of-
we
have
a
lot
of
things
than
development
and
we're
gonna
have
so
much
more
ability
as
we
become
staffed
up
so
really
excited
and
I
hope
that,
though,
that
you
are
starting
to
to
see
some
of
those
some
of
those
things.
Thank.
R
You
I
do
I,
do
think
what
you
were
saying,
Shannon
about
when
people
making
the
the
eye
on
water
app
a
part
of
your
of
an
individual
bill
payment.
You
know
the
point
of
contact
becomes
a
chance
to
have
people
opt
in
on
the
spot
or
make
it
a
as
you
get
your
water
service.
You
opt,
you
know
you
have
to
opt
out
or
you
get.
It
changes
the
dynamic
significantly
from
anticipating
that
people
will
automatically
do
it.
R
A
Can
have
a
motion
regarding
the
public
utilities
apartment
budget?
The
motion
is
there
a
second
any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye.
Those
opposed
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
Mr.
Jones.
Okay,
we
will
hear
from
the
planning
and
land-use
Department
Johnson
if
you
could
introduce
who's
here
with
you.
Gonna.
A
A
I
You
mr.
chair
members
of
the
committee
I'm
going
to
introduce
the
staff
that
are
here
with
me
right
now
and
I'll:
ask
that
they
raise
their
hand,
is
the
division
director
for
inspection,
great
Greg
Smith,
who
is
moving
into
the
division
director
role
for
code
compliance,
but
we
also
have
James
Martinez
here.
Who
is
the
supervisor
for
that?.
I
Ani,
who
was
the
MPO
officer
for
the
Metropolitan
Planning
Organization,
our
latest
hires?
She
has
just
been
selected
to
permanently
fill
the
planner
manager
position
for
the
Historic
Preservation
division
and
then
also
Eli
Isaac's,
then
who's
the
division
director
for
our
building
division,
so
the
handout
that
I've
given
to
you
that
all
black
side
shows
the
current
organization
and,
as
you
can
see,
it's
quite
flat,
all
the
all.
I
The
divisions
reporting
directly
to
me
and
the
proposed
organization
is
on
the
other
side
with
and
so
I
mean
difference,
and
this
is
reflected
in
some
of
the
salary
increases
for
this
division.
Is
that
we're
supposed
to
add
to
desist?
Excuse
me
assistant,
director
positions,
and
this
changes.
Our
revenue
neutral
using
salary
savings,
unfilled
vacancies
that
are
existing
in
the
land
use
department
currently,
and
what
this
will
do
is
add
an
operational
layer
that
will
allow
much
faster
response
to
the
staff
that
need
assistance
with
solving
problems.
I
Dealing
with
customers
will
have
three
people
that
will
be
able
to
deal
with
those
issues
instead
of
just
one
and
then
it'll.
Allow
me
to
focus
a
little
bit
more
on
development
of
our
budget
and
contract
administration
and
other
administration.
So
getting
back
to
your
questions
about
the
overall
trends
for
the
department
under
land
use
administration,
there
are
a
number
of
positions
that
are
being
moved
around
and,
as
you
can
see
on
this
proposed
organization
chart
there's
an
addition
of
the
land
use
property
manager
at
V.
I
Hill
is
proposed
to
be
reassigned
from
the
asset
development
office
into
the
land
use
department,
also
a
land
use,
project
administrator
and,
oddly,
that's
an
existing
position.
A
land
use
project
manager-
and
this
was
a
position
added
to
the
organization
to
help
with
the
implementation
and
ongoing
maintenance
of
our
piece
of
the
ERP
project.
I
We
were
struggling
to
find
personnel
applicants
with
the
correct
qualifications
for
that
position,
so
it's
just
recently
been
reclassified
to
a
business
analyst
and
that
was
just
posted
yesterday.
So
this
is
gonna,
be
a
key
component
to
map
out
processes,
develop
fa
Q's
all
of
the
guidance
documents
that
are
necessarily
not
only
for
staff
but
for
the
general
public
so
that
they
can
better
know
how
to
successfully
interact
with
this
new
permitting
system
when
it
goes
live
later
this
summer.
I
I
I
Inspections
and
enforcement
is
showing
a
decrease
because
some
of
those
staff
are
being
moved
into
a
newly
created
compliance
division,
the
same
with
long-range
planning,
that's
essentially
going
away
in
its
entirety.
There's
a
minor
increase
to
deal
with
cost
of
cost-of-living
increases
with
the
Metropolitan
Planning
Organization,
and
then
technical
review
is
a
minor
increase
because
of
a
salary
differential
between
the
current
city
engineer
and
the
previous
incumbent
and
I
also
want
to
introduce
Nick
Szabo
that
our
city
engineer,
who
is
now
heading
up
at
that
technical
review
division.
A
N
H
D
Know
I
had
most
of
my
questions,
I
think
we're
probably
acknowledged
and
answered
in
MS
Johnson's
presentation
because,
as
I
started
to
look
at
the
various
divisions
and
I
looked
at
the
salaries
in
relation
to
the
vacancies
I
mean
it
was
all
over.
The
map
went
from
an
understandable
one
of
fifty
point.
Nine
percent
decrease
in
long-range
to
historic
preservation
42.5
when
I
really
couldn't
understand,
was
infection
enforcement
with
a
decrease
of
four
percent.
So
without
asking
to
go
through
all
that
again,
I'll
accept
your
explanation.
I
did
wonder.
D
I
noticed
that
we
had
a
very
low
vacancy
credit
for
current
planning
of
like
on
salaries,
point
0.5
percent.
Half
a
percent.
You've
got
a
salary
increase
and
you
know
I,
don't
know
how
deeply
want
to
go
into
that,
but
that
was
just
a
disconnect
that
he
didn't
quite
understand:
Neighborhood
Services,
that's
that's
a
title.
I'd
not
seen
before
talk
to
me
about
the
neighborhood
services
position.
I
Thank
You
councillor
Harris,
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee,
that
assignment
is
because
currently
goes
to
Lee
lost
and
he's
one
of
our
senior
planners
and
functionally
he's
he's
been
a
member
of
the
current
planning
team.
It's
my
understanding.
We've
got
a
couple
holdovers
of
old
business
units
that
may
have
just
one
individual
assigned
to
them
and
from
a
practical
standpoint,
they
haven't
functioned
as
a
separate
business
unit
or
organization
within
the
department
for
quite
some
time.
In
fact,
it
wasn't
until
we
started
barking
on
this
process
of
the
budget.
D
D
I
L
Chairman
counselor
Harris,
just
to
clarify
the
spreadsheets
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
should
be
the
updated
ones.
After
are
after
the
council's
action
or
the
committee's
action.
Yesterday
we
did
update
the
planning
and
land
use
to
reflect
that
change.
So
on
page
1
that
you
were
referencing,
it
would
be
the
contractual
service,
510
310
service
contracts,
line
item
and.
O
L
D
I
D
And
I,
actually
in
reading
understood,
that
was
a
question.
I
want
to
say:
I
really
am
proud
of
the
fact
that
you
and
your
your
department
are
taking
this
on,
because
this
is
no
small
matter
and,
quite
frankly,
I
think
quite
a
while,
for
whatever
reason
people
have
just
stuck
their
head
in
this
hand
until
now,
so
I
applaud
you
for
that.
Well
there
and
part
of
that.
I
Councillor
and
members
of
the
committee
and
chairman,
yes,
we
actually
had
40,000
already
identified
for
historic
preservation.
There
are
several
grant
opportunities
that
are
coming
up
through
the
state
and
that
40,000
was
intended
to
be
matching
funds.
The
the
priority
and
I
can
let
miss
Roach
speak
to
this
would
be
a
historic
preservation
plan
that
would
help
us
identify
subsequent
studies.
That
would
be
necessary
to
establish
contacts
for
specific
historic
periods
and
specific
geographies
within
the
city,
and
also
out
of
that
would
provide
direction.
D
A
I
G
I
Councillor
O'meara
worth
mr.
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee,
so
the
compliance
division
is
emerging
of
the
short
term
rental
staff,
as
well
as
the
current
enforcement
staff
that
have
previously
been
in
the
inspection
and
enforcement
division
and
there's
a
new
leadership
being
provided
with
a
reassignment
of
mr.
I
Smith
to
head
up
that
division
and
the
primary
purpose
behind
that
is
that
there
had
been
a
lack
of
coordination
between
the
City
Attorney's
Office
and
that
division
in
terms
of
preparing
cases
and
getting
them
ready
for
prosecution
if
necessary,
but
also
it's
we're
moving
into
a
very
complex
technical
world,
where
the
information
that
we
need
to
be
successful
in
prosecuting
violations
is
largely
in
the
internet
and
the
cloud
and
not
physically
seen
on
the
street,
so
approaching.
Code
enforcement
with
staff.
I
You
know,
driving
down
the
street
and
trying
to
collect
information
works
in
some
regards
especial
things
like
non-permitted
construction.
But
when
it
comes
to
use
issues,
especially
short-term
rentals,
we
really
need
to
go
to
the
cloud
and
collect
the
information
there.
So,
in
addition
to
adding
an
additional
resource
of
mr.
Smith
for
that
group,
we
also
have
released
on
Monday
an
RFP
for
new
services
for
short-term
rental
compliance
and
we've
got
$60,000
allocated.
I
Currently,
if
we're
able
to
find
additional
funding,
we
have
the
option
of
doing
a
contract
amendment
bringing
that
before
the
governing
body
to
add
additional
services.
So
there
are
some
services
that
potentially
mr.
Randol
would
be
interested
in,
such
as
auditing
collection
of
lodgers
tax.
These
these
services
can
also
provide
a
24/7
hotline.
They
can
provide
better
communication
materials
for
the
public
to
help
them
be
in
compliance.
So
those
are
additional.
I
G
You,
how
do
you
see
this
compliance
division
dividing
its
time,
I
mean
how
do
you
make
sure
that
you
know
they're
not
too
heavy
in
one
area,
maybe
unpermitted
construction
and
not
keeping
their
eye
on
the
ball
short
term
rentals?
How
do
you,
how
do
you?
How
does
that
manager?
You
know
figure
out
how
the
time
is
allocated.
Thank.
I
You
for
that
question
councillor
Romero
worth
mr.
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee.
That
really
is
largely
going
to
also
tie
in
to
whatever
replaces
our
CRM
system,
because
that
is
the
the
tool
that
we
use
to
track.
Complaints
coming
in
right
now.
The
way
that
system
currently
works.
It
doesn't
provide
there's,
not
a
real
workflow
and
there's
not
an
easy
way
to
search
and
assign
tasks.
I
I
mean
you
do
assign
responsibilities
to
a
call
to
an
individual,
but
it's
not
the
same
as
a
permitting
type
of
workflow
and
I
know
that
the
head
of
constituent
services
is
currently
looking
at
a
brief
placement,
prod
product
or
current
system,
and
that
will
be
a
huge
help
to
us.
I
think.
Once
we
get
the
contract
executed
for
the
code,
compliance
you're
gonna
see
very
little
work
required
from
staff
other
than
preparing
cat
cases
to
go
to
prosecution
and
that's
where
the
manager
of
that
division
will
come
in
yeah.
M
Continuing
on
that,
you
know,
your
predecessors
took
on
a
lot
more
in
the
department
and
really
never
asked
for
I
think
the
proper
amount
of
staff
to
really
deal
with
it.
Do
you
in
reality
need
more
staff,
or
do
you
think
this
reorganization
is
going
to
be
able
to
handle
all
the
compliance
issues
you
have
to
deal
with
excuse.
I
And
so
if
there
is
a
judgment
or
a
settlement,
not
only
has
a
life
and,
if
there's
conditions
associated
with
that
those
expire
within
a
year.
So
we
have
a
current
case
at
went
to
court.
There
was
a
settlement
and
I
think
staff
were
under
the
assumption
that
it
was
almost
like
conditions
of
approval
that
those
conditions
would
live
forever,
on
that
property
and
we'd
be
able
to
force
against
those,
and
we
were
advised
by
the
City
Attorney's
Office
that
those
expired
in
a
year.
So
now
we
have
to
start
this
case
all
over
again.
I
However,
if
we
went
I
said
it
was
a
municipal
court
as
civil
I'm.
Sorry,
if
we
went
to
district
court
and
then
it
would
be
a
different
settlement
and
those
conditions
would
live
in
perpetuity
and
be
recorded
against
the
property.
So
we
worked
out
some
of
those
details
and
as
the
City
Attorney's
Office
is
coming
up
to
staff
I
know
she's
got
she
new
hires
coming
on
board.
That's
been
kind
of
the
missing
link,
in
my
opinion,
is
that
coordination
when.
M
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
Council
Rivera
and
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee
we're
actually
adding
a
an
engineer
position
to
the
engineering
division
and
we
think
that's
the
most
appropriate
position
to
oversee
impact
fees.
There
is
a
requirement
that
the
impact
fees
study
be
updated
every
five
years.
I
M
I
Mister
excuse
me,
counselor
were
there
and
members
of
the
committee
actually
and
I
haven't
discussed
this
or
mr.
Brown
I
know
he's
in
the
audience.
That
really
is
more
of
an
economic
development
function.
The
city
had
and
mr.
Lyman
was
responsible
for
this
had
negotiated
with
Bieber
at
UNM
to
build
a
dashboard
for
us,
and
we
had
got
about
one
year's
worth
of
data
put
into
that
dashboard.
I
However,
the
contract
or
the
purchase
order
for
subsequent
years
wasn't
processed,
so
economic
development
is
currently
looking
at
whether
or
not
Bieber
is
actually
the
best
source
for
that
kind
of
data
for
the
city
and
whether
there
are
other
sources
out
there.
That
might
be
able
to
provide
more
more
granular
data
and
as
well
as
broader
set
of
data
for
the
city
to
do
its
decision-making.
That.
I
Be
we've
actually
developed
that
councillor
Hill
cobbler
and
we
didn't
provide
the
detail
in
the
budget
package,
so
staff
has
done
detailed
analysis
of
compare
primarily
using
Santa,
Fe
County
as
a
comparison,
and
so
where
Santa
Fe
County
is
charging
for
a
fee,
we're
using
that
as
a
benchmark
for
ourselves.
But
we
also
went
through
the
list
of
fees
and
looked
at
whether
those
services
were
required
or
optional
as
set
forth
as
a
process.
That's
already
set
forth
in
the
land
use
code,
so.
I
I
P
S
L
L
There
are
varying
complexities,
given
our
very
complex
chart
of
accounts,
I
think
the
true
enterprise
fund
that
you
just
saw
with
the
Public
Utilities
Department,
where
the
revenues
being
brought
in
actually
exceed
the
expenses
for
the
operating
expenses
and
they
use
the
fund
balances
the
cash
balances
to
support
capital,
a
capital
plan.
It's
probably
the
most
simple
example
of
an
enterprise
fund.
There
are
several
quote:
unquote:
enterprise
funds
that
the
city
of
Santa
Fe
has
that
are
not
true.
L
Let's
see
what
was
a
good
example
from
yesterday
pop
in
Public
Works
the
parking
fund
where
they
receive
a
general
fund
subsidy,
so
these
are
areas
that
we
will
be
looking
into
in
future
years
again,
the
idea
would
be
to
our
goal
would
be
to
have
a
simplified
chart
of
accounts
with
less
funds
and
more
of
the
funding
sources
being
deposited
into
the
general
fund
to
support
general
purposes
throughout
the
city.
So
things
are
not
earmarked
to
a
specific
purpose.
L
L
Mr.
chairman
councilor
vehicle-
yes,
that
is
correct,
so
the
increase
of
500,000,
which
is
a
conservative
estimate,
given
the
fees
that
are
being
proposed
for
one
fiscal
year,
will
be
accounted
for
in
the
general
fund
that
we
reviewed
on
the
first
day
of
the
budget
hearings
in
the
overview,
presentation,
I
think.
P
It's
probably
a
good
idea
to
know
what
the
increases
we
are.
Maybe
gonna
approve
that
we
don't
even
know
what
they
are
I,
don't
feel
that
that's
transparent
and
I
want
to
know
what
who
we're
gonna
charge.
What
if
my
one
of
my
constituents
goes
into
planning
and
land
use
and
says,
hey
I,
just
want
you
to
give
me
an
overview
of
what's
what
what
are
you
know?
Point
me
to
the
direction
of
the
ordinances.
P
L
P
P
A
Vo
coppers
concerned,
but
I
think
it's
kind
of
a
chicken
or
egg
type
thing.
It's
like
you,
do
the
fees
first
and
in
the
budget
or
you
do
the
budget
first
and
then
the
piece
and
I
think
because
at
I
mean
I
mean
we
would
have
had
to
have
started
to
be
increased
process
by
six
months
ago
or
a
year
ago.
Potentially
so
I
guess
the
is
it
say
we
approve
the
budget,
the
governing
body
approves
it,
but
then
we
deny
the
fees
or
change
the
B's.
A
A
L
P
I'm
not
comfortable
with
allowing
a
budget
to
go
forward
without
seeing
and
for
me
what
these
fees
are
and
either
having
the
opportunity
to
agree
or
disagree
or
finding
ways
to
do
it.
That's
how
you
plan
for
budgets
and
and
and
how
you
set
your
your
policy
as
an
organization
which
is
what
our
role
is
so
I
don't
have
a
vote
at
this
committee,
but
I
do
in
the
future,
so
I'll
just
leave
it
right
there
and
let
the
chair
decide
how
he
would
like
to
handle
that.
L
Request
your
chairman,
counselor,
via
helicopter,
asked,
can
you
shall
receive
in
front
of
you
now
you
have.
The
schedule
of
fee
increases
that
we
are
prepared
to
review
with
you
today.
These
are,
you
know,
not
hidden
fees.
These
are
fees
that
are
in
the
schedule
that
are
in
front
of
you
and
we
are
available
for
any
questions.
I
think
director
Johnson
can
give
you
an
overview
of
what
is
being
presented
on
this
two-page
sheet.
Okay,.
P
P
P
I
I
So
there
are
two
ordinance
enforcement
specialist
positions
that
were
located
shown
at
the
very
bottom
that
both
indicate
is
being
vacant.
Those
are
the
two
positions
that
were
reclassified.
We
also
chose
to
repro
salary
savings
from
a
vacant.
Zoning
inspection
supervisor
position
and
the
combination
of
those
three
positions
is
what
allowed
us
to
create
the
to
assistant
director
positions.
I
The
correct,
because
we're
not
able
to
collect
the
evidence
we
need
by
having
officers
out
in
the
field,
evidence
is
in
the
internet
and
having
a
short
term
compliance
monitoring
contract
for
$60,000
a
year
that
doesn't
accrue
any
benefits
or
additional
medical
expenses
is
a
much
more
effective
as
well
as
cost.
If,
from
both
a
cost
perspective,
as
well
as
a
results
approach
to
monitoring
short-term
rentals.
P
I
P
And
before
you
move
on,
because
this
is
a
lot
of
information
and
I
know
when
you
were
presenting
I
was
almost
gonna.
Ask
the
chair
to
ask
you
to
just
slow
it
down.
Whoa,
so
pardon
my
question,
because
I,
don't
I
didn't
follow
everything
you
said
make
sure
so
on
those
two,
when
you
say
reclassification,
will
those
be
hand-picked
people
or
are
you
gonna
offer?
How
is
that
gonna?
And
maybe
that
person
applies
to
all
the
other
changes
and
I'm
I'm
coming
from
a
point
of
equity
and
fairness.
I
I
Other
new
positions
mentioned
were
a
junior
engineer
for
the
engineering
division
and
this
one
is
essential
because
right
now
we
just
have
one
other
engineer
in
the
land-use
department
and
we
want
to
avoid
the
problem
that
we've
had
for
the
last
nine
months
before
mr.
Scavo
joined
our
organization,
but
not
having
anyone
trained
and
with
the
appropriate
certifications
to
be
able
to
step
into
that
leadership
position
over
time,
and
is
that
engineer
included
in
this
number
seven
yesterday?
I
I
I
Complicated
plans
like
plumbing
electrical
and
mechanical
are
reviewed
by
the
supervisors
for
those
trades,
so
the
supervisors
are
splitting
their
time
between
plan
review,
conducting
inspections
and
supervising
staff
by
adding
this
additional
position.
With
these
additional
certifications
we'll
be
able
to
reduce
the
load
on
the
inspection
supervisors,
and
so
that
they'll
be
able
to
be
out
in
the
field
more
regularly
and
provide
closer
supervision
to
their
staff.
I
P
P
I
I
I
P
N
I
No,
no
so
if
I
could
respond
to
that,
counselor
Vol.
Mr.
chairman
members
of
the
committee,
so
the
land
use
property
manager
is
Ed.
V
Hill,
who
was
reassigned
to
land
use
a
land
use
project
administrator
is
Geraldine
Gurule.
The
contracts
administrator
is
a
vacant
position.
The
land
use
project
manager.
We
just
yesterday
reclassified
that
to
a
business
analyst
so
that
we
could
find
a
candidate.
I
A
N
Necessarily
I
was
just
trying
to
understand
how
people
were
moving
over
to
different
reassignments,
so
we
know
where
to
go
and
I
think
it
would
actually
help
to
know
for
our
sake.
Well,
I
think,
obviously
constituent
services
and
our
counselor
liaisons
would
have
a
better
sense
of
who
to
go
to,
but
it
would
just
help
if
we
had
questions
who
who
we
are,
who
we
go
to.
That
would
be
helpful.
So
that
was
my
question
about
ERP.
There
is
a
ERP,
that's
that
was
hired
that
correct.
N
I
N
N
I
guess
I,
always
thought
of
the
long-range
planner
as
someone
that
would
actually
end
up
being
the
updating
chapter,
14
any
updates
to
the
general
plan,
which
we
have
not
done
so
my
concern
and
I
guess
my
question
to
you
is
I
know
you
had
budgeted
to
do
the
chapter
14
updates,
but
there
was
hasn't,
been
a
conversation
about
any
sections
of
the
general
plan
that
needs
updating
and
in
the
past,
we've
had
conversations
that
some
are
some
sections
in.
There
are
still
valid.
N
There's
still
some
of
the
value
statements
that
we
believe
in,
but
there's
other
sections
that
do
need
updating.
So
does
that
fold
into
this
plan
of
I
know
it's
not
necessarily
connected
chapter
14.
They
are.
There
are
connections
in
terms
of
how
we
see
us
moving
forward
as
a
city.
So
is
there
a
plan
for
sections
of
the
general
plan
to
be
updated?
Thank.
I
The
division
prior
to
the
retirement
of
mr.
lemming
at
mr.
McPherson
only
consisted
of
two
individuals
which
is
really
insufficient
to
do
those
scope
of
work
that
was
necessary.
Mr.
Lyman's
division.
Director
position
was
reclassified
in
order
for
us
to
be
able
to
elevate
the
position,
the
head
of
the
Historic
Preservation
division.
Mr.
McPherson
position
is
being
added
to
the
planning
division
and
those
planners
will
be
doing
both
current
planning
and
long-range
planning
in
consulting
with
the
staff.
I
We'd
be
developing
basically
a
work
matrix,
a
work
plan
that
identifies
who,
which
planners
are
the
lead
for
the
various
projects
that
we've
identified
and
then
there
may
be
some
planners
that
do
more
exclusively
current
planning,
some
that
do
more
exclusively
long-range
planning,
but
there
are
not
enough
positions
to
create
a
whole
separate
division.
Okay,.
N
I
I
F
I
The
planning
planning
framework
year
two
is
when
we
actually
get
into
the
details
of
the
neighborhood
planning
program.
Some
of
this
has
been
a
little
bit
on
hold
waiting
for
the
neighborhood
position
to
be
filled
in
constituent
services
and
understanding
what
resources,
let
me
be
able
to
gain
from
that
position.
There
are
significant
portions
of
the
city
where
there
is
no
established
or
identified
neighborhood
organization.
I
So
the
first
thing
we
need
to
do
is
fill
in
those
blanks
and
then
develop
consistent
standards
terms
of
how
those
neighborhoods
are
going
to
operate
so
there's
a
great
deal
of
organizational
capacity
that
needs
to
be
developed
at
the
neighborhood
level.
First
and
then
that'll
guide
our
decision
about
how
we
develop
the
latter
years
of
that
word
program
for
updating
the
general
plan
that.
N
I
All
of
chapter
14,
so
that
would
include
all
the
overlay
districts,
including
the
X,
start
mid
districts.
It
will
also
spend
a
significant
amount
of
time.
Looking
at
our
processes,
I
know
there's
been
a
lot
of
interest
in
updating
the
early
neighborhood
notification
process,
so
that
will
be
part
of
the
scope
of
work
as
well.
So.
N
N
N
I
N
N
H
Okay,
we're
into
the
second
round
right.
Some
pro
seem
like
we
kind
of
edged
into
there
a
little
bit,
but
I
just
have
a
couple
of
questions.
First
of
all,
I
just
want
to
say
how
happy
I
am
with
the
changes
in
planning
and
land
use
department.
Thank
you
very
much.
The
staff
and
you
miss
Johnson.
It's
been
a
pretty
magnificent
turnaround
from
where
I
sit
and
I'm
really
really
appreciative
of
it.
H
I
wanted
to
ask
about.
In
the
fiscal
year
twenty
goals,
there
was
the
code
compliance
division
with
a
eighty
percent
complaint
investigations
within
three
days.
I
think
that
that's
a
great
goal
and
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
I
think
people
really
appreciate
that.
That's
that's
really
the
space
of
us
in
the
community
a
lot
of
times
and
it
makes
a
big
difference
so
I
hope
we
can
do
that.
I.
Think
it's
a
big
deal.
H
The
second
thing
that
I
just
put
a
little
star
beside
is
under
the
fiscal
year
twenty
goals,
historic
preservation,
division,
providing
training
for
HPD
staff
on
code
requirements
and
adopted
policies
and
procedure.
I
would
ask
that
that
training
also
be
extended
to
the
board.
I
think
that
it's
him
I
think
that
I
think
we
ought
to
have
a
board
that
is
extremely
well
intended.
H
They
do
that
job
as
volunteers
and
out
of
love
and
care
for
the
city
and
our
historic
districts,
but
I
think
that
some
of
the
appeals
that
we
see
sometimes
that
we
all
need
to
try
to
get
closer
to
the
same
page.
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
interpretation,
but
I
would
ask
that
with
that
training
that
it
also
be
extended
to
the
board.
So
those
are
the
only
comments
that
I
have
and
I'm
very,
very
appreciative
to
the
entire
land.
You
staff.
A
D
D
Clearly
it's
been
needed,
and
so
I
was
not
very
critical
or
asking
very
critical
questions,
but
I
have
to
say-
and
this
was
also
on
my
list
and
I
highlighted
it-
you-
you
know,
you
clearly
say
the
updated
feed
proposal
included
in
my
included
an
FY
20
minute
budget,
so
you're
acknowledging
a
fee
proposal,
and
it
is
you
know,
I
also
agree
with,
to
a
certain
extent,
counselor
vo
coppler-
that
been
good
to
get
out
ahead
of
this
and
really
so.
The
leap
of
faith
really
runs.
D
You
know
two
ways
when
I
use
that
phrase
it's
on
the
reorganization
be
able
to
pull
it
off
and
really
make,
but
it
also
is
clearly
dependent
and
I'd
also
had
realized
that
the
thieves
are
knew
that
the
fees
were
going
to
go
into
the
general
fund.
So
I
look
at
that
line
item.
It's
a
million
dollar
increase.
The
proposed
fees
is
seven
hundred.
D
J
L
We
have
actually
included
in
our
general
fund
projections,
for
these
fees
is
an
increase
of
five
hundred
thousand
so
ahead
of
actually
knowing
what
this
amount
will
be.
We
are
confident
in
the
seven
hundred
thousand
number
seven
hundred
thousand
dollar
number
that
was
provided
by
director,
Johnson
and
her
staff,
but
in
an
effort
to
be
conservative,
we
have
only
included
an
additional
seven.
Five
hundred
thousand
not
be
seven
hundred
thousand.
This.
L
D
L
D
G
I
The
intent
is
to
get
it
to
you
before
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
if
at
all
possible,
we
just
have
some
minor
refinements
to
do
that
fee.
There
will
be
a
delay
in
implementation,
however,
because
our
energy
of
projects,
so
some
of
those
fees
that
are
existing
where
there's
a
minor
increase
proposed,
that's
a
relatively
easy
reprogramming
effort.
I
No
a
couple
months
so
I
would
say
September
timeframe,
and
there
also
provides
us
with
the
opportunity
of
letting
the
community
know
that
we're
proposing
that
the
increase
and
and
giving
enough
lead
time
for
it
for
the
effective
date
of
those
fees
so
that
they
can
account
for
them
in
their
project.
Okay,.
G
D
D
My
observation
is
my
opinion,
is
really
haven't,
been
very
clear
about
how
that
money's
come
in
remain
load-out
and
how
much
is
there
so
the
bonds
associated
with
projects
or
trust
accounts,
or
any
number
of
things
to
know
that
we're
actually
really
getting
on
top
of
it
is
really
has
a
clear
mandate.
I
think
when
the
land
use
is
it's
under
your
directorship
and
the
land
use
project
administrator
thanks.
O
I
D
Even
more
than
that
too,
because
so,
for
instance,
the
work,
the
ground,
the
acreage
associated
with
phase
2
and
phase
3
that
which
really
had
all
of
that
had
a
lot
of
tree
coverage
has
been
pretty
much
demolished,
a
significant
portion
of
it.
So
this
really
needs
to
be
much
much
better
than
it
has
been
in
the
past,
so
you've
listed
it.
So
to
me,
you
acknowledge,
as.
D
And
good
luck,
nuisance,
ordinance
to
what
degree
you
know
when
we
heard
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
we
looked
at
different
initiatives
that
they're
looking
at
a
nuisance
ordinance,
and
this
is
something
that
probably
all
districts
deal
with.
Certainly
in
district
4
we
are,
but
what
kind
of
input-
and
you
mentioned-
noise
I've
been
out,
you
know
adjacent
to
a
party
barn.
You
know
quite
frankly,
so
what
kind
of
input
are
you
going
to
provide
on
the
nuisance,
ordinance
and
departmentally,
or
is
your
director?
Do
you
have
an
opinion
on
this?
I
Nuisance
can
addressing
nuisance.
Complaints
is
probably
one
of
the
most
difficult
things
to
deal
with
in
city
government
just
because
they
happen
at
a
certain
point
of
time
and
usually
outside
of
normal
business
hours,
and
we
have
staff
available
to
respond
or
even
if
it
is
during
business
hours
by
the
time
staff
gets
out
to
where
the
situation
is
happening.
It's
too
late
that
the
issue
the
nuisances
moved
on
and
we
aren't
able
to
collect
the
information,
the
evidence
that
we
need
in
order
to
pursue
enforcement.
I
So
that
is
where
the
conversation
is
gonna
be
happening
with
the
City
Attorney's
offices
and
in
pushing
the
envelope
on.
How
can
we
help
our
residents
collect
the
information
that
we
need?
That
will
stand
up
in
court
so
that
we
can
prosecute
these?
These
violations,
basically
yeah
helping
helping
our
residents
be
more
successful
in
getting
along
and
making
people
aware
what
the
regulations
are
and
what
the
consequences
are.
D
Once
again,
good
luck
on
that
one.
So
last
last
general
question
this
has
to
do
with
in
the
planning
function
of
your
department.
You
know
I
think,
there's
a
reference.
The
phrase
I
won't
search
around,
but
improve
processes
doesn't
really
doesn't
well
complete.
Streamlining
of
processes
and
procedures.
Number
of
new
procedures
created.
D
D
I
That's
not
our
intent,
it's
to
improve
existing
procedures
and
we're
gonna
be
going
through
a
learning
and
growing
phase
as
we
implement
intercut,
because,
unlike
the
immunised
and
and
the
HR
modules
of
the
ERP
system,
those
are
more
pre-programmed.
If
you
will
they're
out
of
the
box,
because
land
use
rules,
change
from
jurisdiction
to
jurisdiction.
So
much
there's
a
lot
of
more
customized
workflows
that
were
developed
or
the
enter
Govs
module
of
the
ERP
program,
and
so
we
have
to
while
we're
testing
them.
I
It
was
not
Tylar
systems,
business
practice
to
give
us,
and
after
we
did
the
pre
workflows
the
existing
workflows.
But
we
didn't
get
a
host
host
design
workflow
for
us
to
be
able
to
compare
against.
So
it
is-
and
it's
been
a
huge
point
of
frustration
and
a
significant
reason
for
needing
this
business
analyst
to
go
through
and
then
map
out
the
the
to
be
the
future
scenario,
the
the
processes
that
we
will
be
using
and
then
there's
gonna
be
a
bit
of
adjustment
that
has
to
happen
with
staff.
I
R
M
I
A
S
You
chair
members
of
the
committee,
the
the
decrease
that
you
see
is
actually
a
reflection
of
the
fact
that
our
accounting,
my
understanding
and
Jessica,
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
when
we
account
for
our
federal
grant.
We
have
to
enter
each
project
in
as
its
own
line
item
and
so
it
business
unit.
N
Just
wanted
to
check
in
the
budget
numbering
there
is
an
increase
of
a
staff
person.
Actually
it
wasn't
increase.
It
was
a
position
that
had
had
you
all
word,
I
guess,
I.
Just
remember
from
all
of
the
budget
cuts
that
you
weren't
able
to
fill
at
the
time
we
did
during
the
budget
deficit
back
in
the
days
is
that
right
there
was
a
position
I
felt
like
you
all
were
asked
to
cut
it,
but
you
needed
it
it
just
that
when
we
were
doing
budget
cuts
during
that
time,
that
was
one
of
the
chair.
S
L
As
I
briefly
mentioned
to
the
committee,
I
believe
in
one
of
the
previous
days,
the
intent
of
to
be
fiscally
responsible
is
not
to
increase
the
head
count,
the
number
of
positions
throughout
the
city
with
its
budget.
So,
where
possible,
we
were
able
to
either
identify
a
term
position
where
the
funding,
as
we
discussed
with
the
larger
staff,
could
potentially
decrease
in
the
future
or
to
reclassify
a
position
from
another
department.
L
N
N
Q
Currently
that
position
was
in
facilities,
it
did
not
get
moved
out
of
the
facility's
budget
into
the
affordable
housing
budget.
We
do
know
which
position
it
is.
It
is
147.
It
is
fully
funded
in
the
facilities
budget.
We
will
be
needing
to
move
that
from
there
to
the
affordable
housing
budget
and
we
will
do
that
before.
The
final
budget
mark
is
done.
Okay,.
N
G
S
Chair
Abeyta
councillor
Harris
this.
This
is
the
big
programmatic
increase
that
I'm
requesting
what
this
will
do
is
fund
in
all
the
rental
assistance
requests
that
we
were
not
able
to
fund
through
our
affordable
housing
trust
fund
cycle,
because
we
simply
did
not
have
enough
funds
that
we
were
able
to
use
for
rental
assistance
and
because
we
know
what
an
emerging
need
that
is
in
this
community
I'm
requesting
the
increase
to
come
from
general
funds
so
that
we
can
create
pay
for
services
contracts
through
which
the
rental
assistance
will
be
administered.
D
And
you
know:
I
you
operate
in
a
very
complex
world
in
terms
of
regulations
and
funding
streams
and
how
it
gets
divvied
up.
I
do
appreciate
that
part
of
what
you
do
very
much,
and
but
my
observation,
it
seemed
like
rental
assistance
is
one
of
those
initiatives,
one
of
those
measures
that
we
take
that
really
probably
leveraged
quite
a
bit.
In
terms
of
you
know,
immediacy
getting.
S
We
have
to
keep
the
flow
of
cash
very,
very
segregated
in
that
way
by
using
the
individual
line
items
so
until
we
know
those
they're
all
lumped
into
one
placeholder
line-item.
The
other
projects
you
see
down
here
that
are
the
that
are
line-item
doubt
those
are
lasts
or
the
current
year
projects.
So
after
the
the
year
starts,
we
do
a
budget
adjustment
to
put
each
contract
into
a
separate
line
item
with
the
appropriate
amount.
So
that's
why
these
are
all
zeroed
out
this
year,
because
there
we
have
new
projects
coming
online.
O
S
S
D
I
expressed
it
in
and
it's
actually
on
our
that
shows
up
on
page
four.
You
know,
but
so
I
tried
to
give
you
back
your
answers
to
see
if
I
understood
it
I
think
I
basically
got
it
and
but
now
pointing
out
the
actually
grant
recipients
and
zero
in
that
out,
because
I
noted
that
they
were
zeroed
out
in
20,
so
again,
complex,
complex
world
in
terms
of
regulations
and
the
money
flow
these
operations.
Those
are
my
questions.
Chair,
Thank,
You,
councillor.
S
N
Thank
you
mr.
chair
that
point.
So
there
were
some
great
aspects
to
that
project,
so
that
initiative
so
I'm
wondering
how
that
continues,
and
maybe
it
looks
different
or
if
it's
do
the
sustainability
office.
Or
is
this
just
like
completely
ending
and
we're
not
supporting
the
entities
that
made
up
the
team
or
the
vetted
a
plan,
or
we
are
we
kind
of
shifting
it
so
that
it's
supporting
overarching
kind
of
sustainability
goals,
counselor.
S
The
the
success
of
the
Verde
fund
was
that
the
city
funding
truly
provided
seed
funding
to
launch
a
very
successful
project
which
is
now
getting
funded
through
I
believe
there's
some
federal
I'm
blanking
on
the
name,
the
like
job
training,
youth,
core
types
of
federal
funding.
That's
now
going
into
you
for
works
program
as
well
as
other
other
workforce
development
and
training
funds.
So.
N
S
A
S
Share
of
a
counselor
veal
Cutler,
we
are,
we've
developed
the
concepts
for
the
amendments.
We
are
going
to
redline
the
ordinance
in
house.
First,
then
we
will
shop
it
out
workshop
it
with
a
group
of
expert
stakeholders
and
then
we're
planning
on
starting
the
public
comment
period
in
June
and
then
going
to,
of
course,
all
of
the
Planning
Commission,
all
the
public
hearings
for
the
remainder
of
the
month.
S
N
You
mr.
chair,
just
to
add
to
what
councillor
Harris
said
about
the
rental
assistance-
and
you
were
talking
about
the
impact
I-
think
I've
learned
from
Alex
a
lot
about
that
aspect.
It
is
something
that
helps
immediate
need.
It
also
saves
us
money
in
the
long
run
because,
as
you
said,
it
costs
more
to
rehouse
people
versus
to
keep
them
in
the
homes.
So
I
think
it
is
a
piece
of
the
puzzle
and
I'm
glad
we're
funding
it
separately
from
the
CDBG
funding.
S
They'll
be
doing
specifically
derivated
councillor
vo.
The
concept
is
that
this
position
will
provide
support
for
all
the
grant
administration
because,
as
you
know,
better
than
anybody,
it's
a
huge
heavy
lift,
but
also
just
to
help
us
manage
our
data
better
to
free
up
some
of
my
time
and
the
CDBG
planners
time
to
actually
do
some
more
of
the
policy
and
planning
work
that
we
want
to
do
and
we
are
trained
to
do
so.
We
also
really
want
to
expand
the
way
we
do
public
outreach.
S
S
S
A
subscription
for
that
we
are
paying
for
subscription
to
continue
the
current
subscription
through
the
end
of
the
year,
because
in
the
process
of
still
using
it,
and
then
I'm
I
actually
believe
that
it's
in
our
budget
for
next
year,
I'm
hoping
that
it
can
be
used.
Citywide.
Because
I
think
other
departments
could
also
take
advantage
of
the
the
tool.
O
A
O
A
A
Okay,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
get
back
into
our
session.
We
are
on
to
the
office
of
economic
development.
Mr.
Brown,
when
I
look
at
your
the
summary
of
your
budget,
I,
don't
see
much
of
an
increase
at
all.
In
fact,
there's
a
slight
decrease,
so
what
we're
gonna
do
is
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
just
open
it
up
to
questions
from
the
committee
and
and
I'm
sure,
through
our
questions
will
probably
cover
anything.
You
were
planning
to
cover
in
any
way
so
counselor
Lyndell.
H
P
H
F
Go
ahead
if
I
may
I
have
to
make
one
amendment
to
that
the
score
contract
ends
year.
We
are
issuing
a
new
RFP,
an
anticipation
of
getting
approval
for
the
budget.
We
expect
score
two
to
apply
for
that
as
well
as
others.
So
that's
why
I
didn't
put
it
on
going
score
support,
because
I
would
feel
like
I'd,
be
prejudiced
prejudicing
prejudicing
the
outcome
of
the
response
to
that
RFP.
Do.
F
Only
two
that
are
requiring
an
RFP
at
this
time
are
for
the
services
provided
by
score
and
the
services
provided
by
a
mix
and
business,
both
of
which
are
in
draft
form
in
preparation,
hopefully
for
the
budget
to
be
approved
and
I
believe
in
the
goals.
I
have
it
written
somewhere,
Oh
actually
I
had
written
an
amended
highlights
for
this
year,
but
they
weren't
able
to
get
in
at
a
time
where
I
clarified
that
the
two?
Yes,
is,
that
our
terminating
this
fiscal
year
and
so.
F
K
A
D
G
F
F
Of
a
plan
that
Sean
moody
was
able
to
work
on
but
was
just
derailed
once
he
became
interim
asset
Development
Director.
So
we
want
to
complete
that
in
that
strategy
would
be
attacking
the
dead
zones,
both
at
the
cell
coverage
level
and
also
looking
at
underserved
communities
where
broadband
is
below
the
acceptable
national
standards
isn't.
F
F
For
residents-
and
you
know
in
people
that
here
just
wanted
to
have
like
things
stream
and
not
buffer
and
not
have
bones,
drop
it
and
let
alone
for
business
purposes.
So
we
definitely
have
to
improve
that
night.
This
ft
the
leadership
there
will
help
us
do
that
I
believe
significantly.
In
addition,
what's
not
represented
here,
but
we
are
having
conversations
with
the
city.
F
Managers
is
leading
with
the
county
to
look
at
creating
a
joint
office
similar
to
how
we
have
with
the
film
office,
because
I
believe
and
as
Chris
hire
the
economic
development
director
for
the
county
that
working
collaboratively
we're
gonna,
get
a
lot
better
results
than
working
independently.
I'm
hopeful
that
we'll
be
able
to
do
that
as
well.
F
G
F
F
G
O
D
N
N
F
F
N
N
F
G
N
F
G
F
F
Could
be
that
you
could
go
to
several
groups,
we
in
that
case
we
would
want
to
have
a
lead
group,
so
we
don't
want
to
bifurcate
and
manage
multiple
contracts.
So
if
the
coalition
of
groups
must
have
come
together,
I'd
like
to
see
one
survey
that
general
contractor
of
that
and
then
they
could
sub
out
other
country.
Okay,.
P
So
one
of
the
I
may
have
brought
this
up
with
you
before
about
when,
when
the
city
was
actually
managing
business-
and
that
was
that-
and
I
mentioned
this
to
the
director
of
Chamber
of
Commerce
as
well,
of
which
I'm
a
member-
and
that
is
that
we
try
to
engage
businesses
on
the
south
side,
Airport,
Road
and
and
be
more
inclusive,
because
what
I
was
seeing
was
more
of
the
businesses
were
more
located,
downtown
and
I.
If
that.
P
If
that
group
is
successful
at
bidding
on
a
north
on
the
RFP
and
getting
a
piece
of
the
action,
I
think
the
city
should,
you
know,
be
sure
that
that
who
not
only
that
one
but
whatever
else
that
that
it's
a
service
or
a
group
that
that
considers
all
of
Santa
Fe
and
especially
the
burgeoning
businesses
on
Airport,
Road
and
they're
about
so
very
much
inclusive.
Thank.
P
F
Position
and
then
we
have
a
an
open
position
that
we
haven't
filled
yet,
which
is
currently
called
economic
development
specialist
which
we're
in
the
process
of
reorganizing
to
have
the
repetition
will
be
economic
development,
and
we
are
reclad
renaming
the
position
that
liz
has
as
manager
both
of
those
will
be
exempt
myself.
The
director
position
in
the
to
manager
positions
would
be
exempt
positions.
I
F
P
P
F
F
We
made
the
positions
we
already
have
our
five
plus
a
shared,
so
there's
myself,
Liz
rich
brown,
excuse
me
Fabiana
Trujillo
and
that
open
position,
and
then
we
have
a
shared
position
with
Jessica
Sandoval's,
so
those
are
already
in
place.
The
additional
positions
are
the
two
for
asset
development
telecom
and
then
twice.
I
F
F
P
F
N
F
F
A
D
D
Or
last
started,
but
I
know
it's
he's
he's
new
to
the
city,
but
I
would
look
forward
as
soon
as
possible
to
really
start
to
kind
of
see
what
a
strategy
would
be
for
really
getting
a
handle
on
our
asset
development,
just
kind
of
outlining
the
steps,
I'm
sure
you're.
Thinking
about
that
already.
Mr.
Kellogg
I
have
to
believe
appreciate.
J
N
You
thank
you
mr.
chair
one
other
question
I
had
was
about
the
opportunities
own
goal
and
part
of
it
is
just
because
it's
a
new
project
nationwide
and
being
on
that
anti
displacement.
Network
there's
been
some
pros
and
cons
to
how
that
the
program
has
developed
meet
developing
nationwide,
so
I'm
just
curious
who's
gonna
be
in
charge
of
that,
and
what
does
it
mean?
Data
visualization
tool
for
opt
owns
and
what
are
kind
of
the
other
goals
to
that?
To
that
end,.
F
Thank
you
for
that.
So
rich
Brown
has
been
our
lead
on
that
and
I
encourage
you.
If
anyone
wants
to
have
a
deep
dive
into
this,
please
reach
out
to
rich
he's
done
a
spectacular
job
of
corralling.
All
the
information
he's
met
with
all
of
the
different
stakeholders.
I
see
councillor
pol
cobbler
9
ahead,
so
real
estate
developers
finance
all
kinds
of
different
people
and
we
continue
the
feds
continue
to
issue
regulations.
F
Some
just
came
out
last
week,
so
we
continue
to
update
our
knowledge
and
excuse
me
the
visualization
tool
as
one
specifically
we
need
not
just
for
this,
but
for
a
lot
of
marketing
communications
is
the
ability
for
us
to
show
our
information,
for
example,
all
of
the
assets
that
we
have,
that
we
might
want
to
attract
developers
to
do
housing,
affordable
housing
or
attract
developers
to
do
mixed-use
development
in
an
opportunity
zone.
So
our
tool
set
for
that
is
is
very
weak.
F
It's
our
website,
it's
completely
inadequate,
and
particularly
when
you're
looking
on
our
from
our
and
we
have
to
look
at
other
cities
that
we
are
competing
with
to
get
this
money.
Is
it's
a
national
program?
We
really
need
a
top-flight
best
practice
tool
to
be
able
to
communicate,
what's
available
and
use
that
as
recruiting
and
marketing
to
try
to
pull
the
dollars
in
to
invest
into
our
opportunity
zone.
So
that's
what
that
tool
will
enable
us
to
do
so.
F
F
Criteria
was
was
not
our
criteria,
criteria
around
distress,
census,
tracts,
it's
all
kinds
of
disinvestment.
It's
poverty
levels,
it's
income
levels,
there's
all
kinds
of
different
criteria,
and
so
we
applied
for
all
seven
that
we
had
here.
So
we
tried
to
get
all
seven
of
them
and
we
were
fortunate
to
get
time.
N
F
Economic
development,
where
what
we're
looking
at
is
in
those
census
tracts
are
their
policy
changes,
are
their
ordinance.
Changes
are
their
reclassification
of
like
r12,
c2
or
things
that
we
could
do.
That
would
be
more
attractive
to
the
investment.
So
if
you
want
to
see
more,
affordable
housing
come
up
or
we
want
to
see
some
innovation
going
into
a
to
an
area,
so
that
piece
of
work
is
an
internal
piece
of
work
for
rich
and
Carol,
and
others
have
already
started
so.
F
You
just
don't
have
any
right
now.
What
we
do
is
we
we
get
those
regulations
as
soon
as
they
come
out.
We
read
them.
We
figure
out
what
they're
telling
us,
and
then
we
respond
accordingly.
So
if
that
means
I
think
the
last
set
that
just
came
out
was
really
around
investment
in
companies
rather
than
investment
in
real
estate.
So
we
take
that
synthesize
it
and
then
go
back
out
into.
For
example,
in
the
case
of
the
investor
community,
go
new
regulations
will
come
out,
and
this
is
what
they're
saying
about
what
you
can
do.
F
F
Definitely
it's
all
about
all
of
this
is
about
investing
into
distressed
communities,
and
they
understand
the
risks
involved,
because
people
must
people
been
talking
about
that
you
could
just
come
in.
Do
you
know
gigantic,
like
swipes
up
clean,
do
a
big
housing?
You
know
single-family
homes
and
walk
away
and
just
try
to
turn
that
property
over
there'll
be
like
a
massive
displacement
piece
of
work.
That's
certainly
not
our
intention
or
strategy.
At
the
same
time,
we're
limited
this,
isn't
we
don't
have
the
funds
we're
not
making
those
investments?
F
This
is
private
investment,
so
you're
trying
to
do
our
very
best
to
bring
our
community
together.
I
talked
about
the
values,
talk
about
the
aspirations
and
the
needs
and
really
motivate
them
to
do.
You
know
high
quality
investments
that
support
the
entire
community
and
and
not
try
to
come
in
and
do
you
know
displacement
which
in
the
case
at
least
if
they
want
to
do
that
on
city
property
that
have
to
come
here
right
and
same
thing
that
they've
got
permitting.
They
have
to
go
through
land
use.
F
A
A
And
then
for
the
committee
I
noticed
the
agenda
for
tomorrow
starts
with
capital
and
then
goes
back
into
departments.
Do
we
want
to
finish
up
with
the
departments
and
then
do
the
capital?
Because
I
might
that's
gonna
private,
a
much
longer
discussion
and
if
we
need
to,
we
could
run
into
Monday,
but
it'd
be
nice
if
we
could
complete
the
departments
by
tomorrow,
okay,
so
that'll
be.
The
change
will
make
when
we
approve
the
agenda
tomorrow.