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From YouTube: Governing Body Workshop for February 12, 2021
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A
Yep
and
you
are
on-
we
are
now
streaming
live
on
youtube,
it's
friday
february,
the
12th
at
109
p.m.
This
is
a
workshop
of
the
governing
body
being
done
virtually
and
it
has
a
an
agenda
involving
a
number
of
technical
items.
So,
let's
begin
with
a
roll
call
by
the
city
clerk,
please.
B
Sure,
mayor
weber,.
C
B
A
A
Oh,
I
I
heard
council
lindell
make
the
motion
and
I
heard
counselor
v
koppler.
Second,
the
motion
to
approve
the
agenda.
Could
the
clerk
call
the
role
on
that
motion?
Please.
E
F
B
G
A
You,
madam
clerk,
maybe
you
could
go
through
item
three,
a
b
c
and
d
for
those
who
don't
have
the
agenda
in
front
of
them.
So
everybody
knows
what
the
what
the
agenda
is.
That
was
just
approved.
It's
a
series
of
four
discussion
items.
B
Yes
mayor,
there
is
a
series
of
discussion
items
and
presentations
just
to
if
anyone
doesn't
have
the
agenda
in
front
of
them.
We
have
a
presentation
and
overview
and
process
for
our
next
request,
followed
by
a
similar
sequence
for
prime
gov
and
then
the
crm,
and
then
we
will
have
the
parliamentary
procedure
and
timely
topics
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
So
there
are
no
action
items.
This
is
discussion
and
presentation
mayor.
A
Thank
you
so
with
that,
madam
clerk,
I
think
you
may
be
the
coordinator
of
these
presentations
item.
3A
is
the
next
request
overview
and
process
with
cindy
whiting
and
aaron
mcsherry?
So
if
we
could.
B
B
Yes,
erin,
if
you
would
like
to
do
the
introduction,
and
also,
if
you'd
like
to
have
your
staff
join
for
this
portion,.
H
Yes,
if,
if
the
staff
who
helps
out
with
it,
bro,
who
has
been
helping
out
with
the
extreme
case
load,
could
all
turn
on
your
camera.
So
everyone
can
see
you.
I
wanted
to
recognize
the
work
of
this
team,
because
they've
been
collaborating
over
the
last
few
months
as
we
consolidate
all
the
requests
under
one
software,
including
all
the
police
requests.
H
So
three
of
the
paralegals
from
my
office
have
been
helping
with
the
with
the
management
of
that
extremely
high
number
of
requests
and
cindy
whiting
from
my
office.
Is
the
records
custodian
so
she's
going
to
help
us
with
the
presentation
today,
but
I
also
wanted
to
recognize
in
my
squares,
justine
hines,
who
is
one
of
our
paralegals?
She
primarily
is
based
at
the
municipal
court,
but
she's
been
helping
us,
particularly
with
a
lot
of
the
police
records,
tanya,
valetta,
who
is
in
city
hall.
H
Typically,
when
we
used
to
be
in
city
hall,
she's
helped
out
as
well.
Julie
kenney
was
not
able
to
make
it
today,
but
she's.
Another
paralegal
from
my
office,
who
has
been
helping
quite
a
bit
with
redactions
and
then
greg
gurule,
had
been
with
the
police
department
and
then
has
moved
over
into
the
constituent
and
communications
office,
but
has
still
been
extremely
involved
in
the
police
records
production
and
very,
very
helpful
to
coordinating
that
through
the
next
request
software.
So
we
started
the
next
request.
H
H
So
then
I
do
have
a
couple
slides
just
to
talk
about
the
advantages
of
the
next
request
software
and
why
we
decided
to
procure
such
a
software.
We
had
heard
about
it
or
heard
about
the
opportunity
from
other
governments
and
saw
presentations
of
what
they
were
doing
and
thought
it
would
be
a
really
good
idea.
H
The
police
department
and
my
office
were
very
interested
and
we
collaborated
to
select
this
software
you'll
see
later
in
the
presentation
with
cindy
how
what
the
number
of
requests
we
get
for
police
records.
So
it
was
really
important
to
have
that
particular
department
be
involved
in
this
selection
of
software.
So
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen.
H
H
Okay,
I
think
I'm
showing
this
this,
oh
and
the
mike
prince,
I
think,
was
online
too.
So
he's
our
attorney.
That's
been
offering
legal
guidance.
Did
he?
I
think
I
saw
him
appear
earlier,
but
did
he
share
his
screen,
or
should
he
show
his
video?
He
he's
been
providing
a
lot
of
advice
to
this
team
on
redactions
and
things
like
that,
because
it
can
get
complicated,
sometimes,
particularly
in
relation
to
personal,
identifying
information
and
and
a
number
of
other
types
of
records.
H
The
city
has
so
kind
of
the
categories
of
areas
that
next
request
have
helped
us
in
our
data.
You'll
see
that
we
can
do
automated
report
creation
now
and
there's
a
dashboard
that
has
the
status
of
pending
request
that
cindy
will
be
showing
in
terms
of
efficiency.
There's
alerts
to
the
public
that
cindy
will
show
you
that
alert
them
if
they're
requesting
a
record
that
the
city
actually
doesn't
retain,
such
as,
like
a
marriage
record,
the
proper
custodian
for
that
is
the
county.
H
It
has
preset
templates
for
communications
with
the
public
and
the
staff,
and
it
has
a
centralized
hub
for
relevant
communications
and
production,
so
that
helps
when
we
have
multiple
people
working
on
one
ipra
in
terms
of
transparency.
It
both
produces
the
documents
online
for
the
requesters
requesters
can
look
at
each
other's
requests
as
well
as
their
own,
and
it's
actually
searchable
by
the
public,
all
those
produced
documents
by
keyword
and
then
in
terms
of
risk
reduction
risk
reduction.
H
We
had
a
situation
recently
where
someone
said
documents
weren't
produced,
but
they
actually
just
hadn't
accessed
them,
and
it
showed
the
date
that
they
were
uploaded
and
then
the
fact
that
they
hadn't
been
viewed
yet
the
automated
overview
and
soon
to
be
alert
to
our
soon-to-be-do
alerts
are
helpful
so
that
there,
our
staff
can
see
on
an
overview
day-to-day
basis.
What
is
due
and
what
is
soon
to
be
due
without
having
to
create
their
own
tracking
devices
and
then
the
shared
hub
allows,
if
someone's
out
on
leave
another
staff.
H
G
Hi
everybody
I'll
share
the
screen
and
show
you.
H
G
I
don't
have
the
the
I
don't
have
next
request
up
right
now:
okay,
that
is
the
problem:
okay,
so
I'll
I'll
up!
Oh
yeah!
I
do
so.
I
should
be
able
to
let's
see.
G
H
I
H
Yeah
well,
another
option
is,
I
could
share
my
screen
and
we
could.
I
can
click
where
you
tell
me
to
I'm
sorry.
G
G
G
G
G
Make
requests,
they'll
click
on
make
request
and
then
here
there's
a
big
blank
space
where
they
can
enter
in
what
they
want.
G
Just
for
example,
if
they're
saying
I
want
a
marriage
record
from
1967
once
they
start
putting
in
the
word,
marriage
is
a
flag,
I
don't
know
the
correct
term,
but
there's
a
pop-up,
that'll
say:
marriage.
Divorce,
birth
are
not
created
or
maintained
by
the
city
of
santa
fe.
Please
contact
the
state
of
new
mexico
for
birth
and
debt.
Death
records.
Divorce
decrees
can
be
obtained
through
the
district
courts.
G
So
that
saves
us
a
lot
of
time
fielding
things
that
we
don't
have
records
for,
but,
as
we
all
know,
or
the
ipra
team
knows
99
or
95
percent
of
the
it'll
be.
I
want
this
police
report
from
this
day
and
so
they'll
put
in
what
they
want
and
then
they
put
in
their
email
address
and
their
name.
G
I
think
they
can
kind
of
get
away
with.
Not
putting
in
their
street
address
and
phone
and
then
I
don't
want
to
create
another
dummy,
because
I've
done
that
and
it's
kind
of
not
good
and
then
once
they
enter
their
information,
then
they
can.
This
make
request
will
be
dark
blue
when
they
click
on
that
once
the
second.
They
touch
that
and
click
make
requests.
Then
they
now
have
a
new
request
in
the
system
and
it
will
pop
up
on
the
page.
G
This
is
all
requests,
it'll
be
the
top
one.
Oh,
this
shows
I'm
not
signed
in.
They
will
also
get
an
email
that
says
you
have
a
a
new
request
with
the
city
of
santa
fe,
for
public
records
and
it'll
say:
please
create
an
account.
They
can
create
a
password
and
then
they
can
go
in
and
view
their
request
at
any
time
to
see.
What's
going
on,
they
can
be
assured
that
it's
in
the
system
so.
G
And
it's.
G
To
show
you
what
the
format
is
for
the
page
for
the
request,
it'll
give,
it
shows
the
number
of
the
requests.
This
one
happens
to
be
closed,
but
when
it's
brand
new
it'll
say
open
it'll
say
I
want
the
following
records
from
the
city.
G
G
When
it
comes
in
it
will
have,
it
will
have
no
assignments
and
I
go
in
and
I
create
it'll
say
not
assign
and
that's
my
job
part
of
my
job
is
to
assign
the
department
by
reading
the
request
it
will
below
that
it'll
have
any
documents
that
staff
members
upload
and
say
I
say
I
assign
this
to
the
police.
G
We've
got
it
programmed
where
I've
created
each
department
within
the
city,
and
then
I've
created
all
the
staff
people
that
are
associated
with
that
department,
so
here's
police
department
it
automatically
puts
in
greg
gjg
a
padilla
bp
valdez
any
people
that
automatically
are
in
that
department.
Also,
if
I
want
to
add
support
people,
because
we
know
how
things
are
fluid
so
and
so
maybe
oh,
you
should
ask
a
staff.
Member
may
say-
and
here
you
see
on
the
top
right-
we
can
message
each
other.
G
You
can
you
can
message
me
and
say:
hey
cindy,
I
don't
understand.
What's
going
on
with
this
ipra,
can
you
please
explain
or
call
me
at
this
number
or
you
can
say
please
add
joe
smith
as
staff
member.
So
then
I
would
go
down
here
and
add
another
support
person,
joe
smith.
G
G
If
you
click
these
two
little
bubbles,
you
can
say
hi
cindy,
I
don't
know
what's
going
on
or
I
don't
know
how
to
do
this
or
call
me,
and
then
you
can
send
the
message
to
me
because
I
understand
I
mean
it's
taken
me
eight
months
and
I'm
still
learning
stuff.
So
I
can
appreciate
you
not
understanding
how
to
use
next
request
this
first
little
icon
here,
there's
templates
uploaded
in
here
where
I
can
either
create
an
ended,
a
unique
custom.
I
mean
I
can
just
send
a
message
to
a
request,
you're
saying
hi.
G
I
used
to
have
to
always
cut
and
paste
it
in
the
past
before
we
had
this
from
a
different
file
anyway,
and
then
you
as
staff
counselors,
if
you
want
to
upload
a
document
that
you
have
in
response,
say,
you've
been
named
as
staff
and
you
want
to
add
a
document
say:
you've
got
emails
or
a
document
that
you
can
upload.
You'll
click
here.
Well,
let
me
go
back,
so
I
don't
confuse
you.
You
go
back
to
where
it's
this
little
paper
clip
and.
G
You
browse
the
four
files
say
it's
on
your
desktop,
so
you'll
go
browse
for
file
to
upload
it'll.
Let
you
go
into
your
own
computer
and
once
you
click
open,
you'll,
be
uploading,
a
document
and
also
so
you
know
when
that
document's
uploaded
it
pop.
It
goes
right
over
here
to
the
left-hand
side
of
the
page
and
it'll
be
under
staff,
only
meaning
it's
not
viewable
to
the
public.
G
If
you
want
to
warn
not
warn
me
alert
me
if
you
want
to
say
cindy,
I
just
uploaded
a
document.
You
can
do
it
again
again,
where
the
little
bubbles
are
cindy.
I
just
uploaded
a
document.
G
I
think
maybe
there's
something
privileged,
so
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know,
but
you
can
rest
assured
that
it'll
be
uploaded
to
where
it
says:
staff
only
first
and
I
or
any
of
the
other
people
on
my
team
will
be
reviewing
it
making
redactions
before,
and
you
know
only
after
we've
done
that
then
we'll
click
this
little
eyeball
and
make
it
viewable
to
the
public
or
we
can
make
it
viewable
to
us
and
the
requester,
but
I
never
do
it
work
western
staff.
G
I
don't
know
I
always
publish
things
which
means
in
the
future,
then
anyone
in
the
public
can
view
the
document
once
the
request
has
been
closed.
G
When
I
close
this
one,
I
can
reopen
it
just
to
show
you
when
I
want
to
close
the
doc
the
request,
I'll
click
here
on
close
requests
and
there's
a
number
of
templates
there
I
can
say
fulfilled.
G
G
Anyone
on
either
me
or
anybody
else
on
my
well.
You
know,
I
think
I
guess
it's
only
me
that
can
change
the
visibility
from
staff
only
to
public.
H
L
Answered
right
now,
counselor
via
rail,
well,
it's
pertinent
to
what
you
just
described:
what
cindy
just
about
uploads
yeah,
I'm
just
curious
if
there's
an
easier
way
to
get
emails
into
the
upload
without
having
to
save
every
single
one
to
a
file
and
then
uploading
all
of
those
from
a
file.
Is
there
another
way
to
do
that?
You
know.
That's
been
a
difficult
question.
G
For
me,
where
I
I'm
not
real
good
at
that,
I
don't,
if
you
can
somehow
append
it
to
create
like
a
dummy
blank
pdf
and
then
append
him.
H
On
that
question
cindy,
maybe
this
is
a
good
time
to
talk
about
so
there's
there's
been,
I
think,
questions
about.
If
cindy
can
do
an
email
search.
Why
does
she
ask
staff
or
counselors
to
also
do
an
email
search
and
there's
there's
two
parts
to
that
question
I
would
say
so.
One
is
there's
a
chance
that
some
of
you
might
receive
emails
to
a
non-city
account.
H
I
recommend
you
try
to
avoid
that.
I
I
don't
recommend
that
you
do
that,
but
I
know
that
it's
possible
that
it
could
happen
like
now
and
then
people
accidentally
have
my
personal
email
saved
somewhere
and
they'll
be
trying
to
send
it
to
my
work,
but
they
accidentally
send
it
to
my
personal.
It
even
happens
with
the
city
clerk's
office,
because
I
was
on
a
commission
before
I
was
at
the
city
so
now
and
then
they'll
like
accidentally,
send
something
to
my
personal
email.
H
So
I
just
forward
it
back
to
my
work,
email
and
then
respond
to
it
from
there,
and
I
do
recommend
that
people
use
their
work
email
for
work
stuff,
so
that
so
that
it
streamlines
this
type
of
process,
but
also
if
we
ever
earn
a
lawsuit
or
anything
like
that.
It
streamlines
the
discovery
process,
but
the
second
part
to
that.
H
One
of
the
requests
that
came
in
this
week
related
to
midtown
is
to
say,
I'm
doing
x,
search
and
then,
if
you
have
anything
beyond
that,
like
maybe
she
doesn't
know
all
the
key
terms,
or
maybe
you
have
an
email
that
wouldn't
have
the
key
term
but
still
is
related
to
the
subject
matter.
That's
being
requested,
you
could
let
her
know
either
like
you
could
do.
Make
sure
that
her
key
term
that
she's
doing
her
search
on
will
cover
everything
that
you
have
that's
responsive.
H
You
could
either
or
you
could
respond
back
and
say
here's.
What
else
would
need
to
be
searched
in
order
to
finish
that
production
to
make
it
entirely
responsive
or
then
you
could
at
least
have
a
reduced
number
of
emails
that
you
need
to
give
her
if
you're
able
to
do
a
search,
that's
something
different
than
what
she's
done
that
only
produces
maybe
a
handful.
So
that
makes
it
easier
for
uploading
too,
because
there's
a
fewer
number
that
doesn't
necessarily
address
the.
M
M
G
M
H
Well,
that's
really
helpful
time.
Maybe
we
could
summarize
that
to
send
out
to
these
folks,
so
they
can
just
keep
it
on
hand.
Okay,
that
would
be
great.
L
Awesome,
thank
you
and
then
just
on
that
similar
point
about
duplication
of
efforts
or
trying
to
avoid
that.
Can
we
assume
that
staff,
when
they
do
an
overall
search
and
there's
emails,
that
every
single
counselor
receives
on
a
certain
topic?
H
Yeah,
so
I
think
that
would
if,
if
what
she
says
is
going
to
cover
it,
then
I
think
yes,
okay,
but
that's
the
type
of
thing.
It
would
be
very
that's
what
we
need
everyone
here
to
help
do
is
to
make
sure
what
she
says
her
search
is
covering
will
include
whatever.
That
matter
is
because
now
and
then
you
know
we
could
talk
about
something
be
like.
H
Oh,
you
know
that
thing
last
night
that
happened
like
that
might
not
have
the
key
word
in
it,
but
you
know
it's
about
whatever
right,
so
that
that
would
be
why
we
can't
just
always
do
a
search
and
and
make
sure
we
find
everything.
H
N
O
I
believe
that
we
just
have
reader.
I
was
dealing
with
this
the
other
day
with
jesse
gehen
as
well,
so
we
do
not
have
adobe
pro.
I
got
some
baby
jesus
now.
B
We
can
absolutely
get
that
it's
actually
good
to
know
that
you
don't
have
the
adobe
pro,
so
I
will
work
with
it
to
make
sure
that
the
council
can
get
that
installed.
D
On
their
city
devices
tanya,
is
it
required
to
have
adobe
pro
to
do
what
you
described,
yeah
adobe
pro
is.
B
Be
yeah
counselor
I'll
make
I'll
just
send
an
email
to
it,
so
we
will
coordinate
to
get
adobe
pro
on
the
city
issue.
Devices
asap.
H
Q
H
G
G
I
will
email
see
I'll
go
in,
you,
guys
can
still
see
the
next
request,
page
correct
and
I'm
going
to
say
I'm
going
to
go.
I
need
I'm
going
to
do
a
search.
I
need
to
tell
everybody
I'm
going
to
message
staff
you
all
in
this
say
this
ibra
is
asking
for
counselor
emails
and
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
top,
where
the
icons
are
the
little
caption
bubbles.
G
Please
advise
if
you
have,
if
you
have
anything
that
you
think
will
help
me
in
fulfilling
this
request.
Q
G
G
Q
G
Right
and
this
isn't
to
give
me
five
times
as
much
work,
this
is,
if
you
really
think,
there's
another
keyword
that
will
be
helpful
and
if
you
do
think
this,
then
you
click
on
that
those
little
bubbles
again
and
you
say,
hey
cindy.
I
think
you
should
do
a
keyword
search
for
this
word
too.
Okay
and
then
my
next
question.
Q
H
Q
Yeah
the
problem
is,
you
know
the
volume
that
I'm
sure
the
ipra
team
understands
that
sometimes
we're
dealing
with,
especially
if
people
are
writing
to
us
on
a
particular
issue
for
us
as
counselors,
with
no
personalized
staff
to
sit
and
try
to
upload
each
email
individually
is
really
a
tall
task
so
having
this
ability
to
create
an
email
file
and
convert
it
to
a
pdf
and
send
it
all
as
one
would
save,
would
increase
our
capacity.
G
In
may,
when
we
first
got
next
request,
this
was
this
stumped
me
and
I
was
just
like
I
I
I
don't
know
and
and
and
I
know
I
talked
to
sig
and
it
was
like.
I
can't
do
what
you're
asking
me
to
do,
and
I
didn't
know
how
to
I
didn't
know.
I
don't
know
what
happened
with
that,
but
it
was
not
good,
so
you
all
need
adobe
pro
yeah.
H
Still
at
this
okay
cindy,
let's
move
on
to
our,
I
think
we've
got
like
a
last
couple.
Things
we
wanted
to
show
there
was.
Is
there
anything
before
the
dashboard.
G
G
Business
which
could
be
improved,
we're
supposed
to
do
it
in
three.
You
can
see
how
many
we've
closed.
That's
the
green
area.
H
I
mean
when
a
request
is
for
thousands
and
thousands
of
emails,
then
we're
just
supposed
to
do
it
in
a
reasonable
period
of
time
right
and
you
spend
a
lot
of
time
going
through
thousands
of
emails
to
see
if
there's
anything
in
there,
that
we
don't
want
to
release
someone's
social
security
code
out
into
the
public
or
publish
their
birth
date,
and
so
that
takes
a
lot
of
time
and
you
guys
are
very
thorough.
So
I
I
don't
want
you
to
undersell
what
you've.
G
G
30Th
median
days
to
close
three-
that's
perfect.
This
down
here
below,
shows
you
that
the
great
great
majority
of
requests
that
we
get
are
for
the
police
records.
S
Till
I
asked
my
question
now:
yeah.
Okay,
I
wanted
to
to
know
about
the
deadlines
for
these
requests.
S
So
my
recollection
is
that
we
get
you
know
with
the
request
to
us:
there's
an
email
that
says
I
think,
there's
a
deadline
and
then
we
get
another
one
that
says
the
deadline
is
extended
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
at
least
I
get
these
another
email
that
says
you.
You
passed
your
deadline,
even
though
I
already
submitted
something
so
I
get.
I
don't
know
because
I
don't
memorize
the
case
numbers.
S
G
R
G
S
I
I
did
want
to
find
out
what
that
was.
So
I
saw
that
and
I
thought
I
read
something
like
it
was
sort
of
open-ended
and
then
I
got
an
email
saying
the
deadline
is
coming
up.
Although
the
deadline
was
yesterday,
I
think
so
that's
another
one
that
I
don't
understand
when
I
go
when
I
went
into
the
request
itself
or
or
is
that
because
it's
a
15-day
rule.
S
Says
you
have
all
the
time
in
the
world
to
do
this,
which
I
think
that
one
kind
of
alluded
to,
but
but
then
all
of
a
sudden,
we
do
have
a
deadline,
not
not
what
the
requester
said,
but.
S
S
G
H
I
don't
think
we
can,
but
I
think,
there's
there's
multiple
layers.
It
sounds
like
and
it's
because
it's
not
automatic,
we
can't
automatically
take
the
person
who's
returned
their
records
off.
I
think
you
have
to
there's
an
evaluation
of
whether
or
not
is
this
everything
we
need
or
is
there
something
else
we
might
need
from
that
person
so
that
might
we
might
want
to
clarify
that
before
we
take
someone
off
to
get
reminders?
Justine
did
you
have
some
more
to
add
to
that.
T
Well,
I
was
just
going
to
say
in
regards
to
like
the
due
dates
and
I'm
not
100
on
it,
but
I
think
there's
an
original
three-day
due
date
so
three
business
days,
but
then
cindy
can
determine
whether
or
not
you
know
the
counselors
need
additional
time
and
then
she
can
extend
it
another
15
days,
multiple.
G
H
Yeah,
so
the
three,
the
three
layers
are,
the
three
business
days
is
kind
of
the
automatic,
but
if
we
do
need
more
time,
we
have
to
let
the
requester
know
so,
there's
a
required
communication
at
that
point,
and
then
we
can
have
up
to
15
days
calendar
days.
The
first
one
is
a
business
day
deadline
the
next
one's
a
calendar
day
and
then,
if
but
then
at
some
point
during
that
15-day
period,
we
may
discover
that
the
request
is
broad
and
burdensome,
sometimes
we'll
know
from
the
get-go.
H
If
they
just
say,
I
want
every
permit
for
the
last
three
years
about
something
we'll
know
from
the
beginning
like
this
is
this
is
broad
and
burdensome
it's
going
to
take
us
a
long
time
to
make
sure
that
we
can
provide
all
this
documentation
and
upload
it
and
everything,
but
other
things
cindy
might
not
know
at
the
beginning
that
something's
brought
in
burn
some,
because,
although.
H
Right
she
doesn't
know
she's,
not
in
every
department
of
the
city.
You
know
sitting
on
everyone's
shoulder,
knowing
what's
going
on
so
sometimes
it's
a
surprise
that
oh
there's
actually
a
lot
of
documents
on
this
issue
and
once
we
start
getting
them
back,
we
realize
how
much
time
it's
going
to
take
to
go
through
them
and
redact
them,
and
at
that
point
it
makes
the
determination
it's
broad
and
burdensome
and
then
has
to
extend
the
deadline
in
order
to
compensate
for
that,
I
see
council
rivera's
hand.
I
B
G
That
was
my
fault.
Renee
brought
that
up.
Thank
you.
She
brought
that
up
that,
like
I
said,
I
have
all
the
departments,
I
think,
and
I
had
had
your
name
under
the
city
council,
department
and
somewhere,
and
I
don't
know
why
this
happens.
Sometimes
people's
email
accounts
get
deactivated,
but
now
you
are
active
and
included
in
this
april.
I'm
sorry.
What
was
your
question.
I
I
H
M
Why
that
would
be,
but
kid
counselor?
I
could
resent
you
the
link
and
we
could
get
you
set
up
after
this
meeting
I'll.
Send
you
something
that
way
you
have
direct
access
to
it
and
all
of
us
cindy
justine
and
I
julie
as
well.
We
have
access
if
you
are
having
issues
with
anything.
We
have
admin
access,
so
we
could
reboot
your
account.
We
could
send
you
a
link
to
reset
your
password
and
all
of
that.
G
H
I
don't
know
why.
Okay,
so
can
you
guys
check
on
the
counselors
upload
and
then
probably
for
any
others?
I
think
we're
probably
over
time
a
little
bit
here
so,
for
I
think
they're
happy
to
help
with
any
individual
situations,
and
it
sounds
like
we'll
have
some
software
improvements
for
everybody
soon
it
might
ease
the
process.
L
Oh
yep,
we
do.
Okay,
sorry,
I
don't
know
who's
one
up.
First,
vial
or
cassette
sanchez
mine
is
just
real
quick.
I
think
I
was
a
little
bit
before
jamie.
So
are
we
assuming
just
to
make
sure
I
understand
that
cindy's
or
and
and
or
staff
is
already
facilitating
an
email
search
on
a
topic
and
that
we
just
add
any
potential
other
either
items
that
may
have
gone
to
our
personal
email?
For
some
reason,
or
I
think
no
assuming.
H
Only
if
she
says
she
has
so
she'll
put
in
her
request,
I
am
doing
the
following
email
search.
There
might
be
some
where
she
doesn't
even
know
what
term
to
use,
because
it
might
say
something
like
related
to
when
I
got
like
we
get
weird
police
report
requests
it's
like
when
I-
and
it
says
I
and
the
requester
got
pulled
over
at
this
time
and
then,
like
the
police
department,
has
to
like
figure
out
what
that
even
means,
or
we
call
the
requester
and
try
to
get
more
information
because
they
didn't
give
us
an
actual.
H
You
know,
report
number,
but
that
the
same
thing
could
happen
with
other
requests
too,
where
it's
not
totally
clear
what
the
keywords
should
be.
So
I
would
look
at
what
she
said
see
what
what
search
she
has
described.
If
she
hasn't
described
a
search,
maybe
get
back
to
her
and
say:
are
you
going
to
do
an
email
search?
What
is
it
going
to
be
that
type
of
thing,
but
don't
don't
assume
anything,
but
I
do
think
just
keeping
that
line
of
communication
open
will
be
really.
L
Helpful,
okay
and
in
the
case
of
midtown,
because
cindy
you
listed
all
these
numbers
of
emails
that
you
found
that
were
related
to
midtown
right,
you
kind
of
covered
your
bases
there
there's
a
lot.
So
I
don't
know
I
don't
know
how
what
else
to
search
for
other
than
what
you
found.
G
Well,
I
don't
think
you
should
wrap
your
brain
and
try
to
make
it
like
your
homework
to
come
up
for
a
new
search
term.
If
one
pops
to
your
mind
and
goes
oh
yeah,
this
I,
this
obviously
should
be.
This
is
relative
to
midtown,
even
though
it's
not
the
word
midtown.
G
Let
me
know
about
those
okay,
those
hundreds
and
thousands
of
emails
that
I
dug
up
already.
That
was
with
the
word
midtown
only.
O
Thank
you
and
I
think
that's
actually,
that
conversation
probably
clarified
my
question.
I
was
looking
at
the
midtown
example
as
well.
It
initially
said
that
there
was
the
search
term
was
midtown
campus
development.
So
I'm
assuming
that,
if
you
had
searched
that
that
exact
phrase
would
have
needed
to
be
in
there
is
that
correct.
G
That
was
a
case
where
I
just
jumped
in,
and
I
didn't
think
it
through
before
I
sent
off
an
email
to
you
all.
I
initially
thought
I
was
going
to
do
an
I.t
email
search
for
the
term
midtown
development,
blah
blah
three
words
whatever
and
then,
when
I
did
the
I.t
search,
I
thought
no,
this
isn't
good,
so
I
just
shortened
it
to
the
word
midtown
and
that's
why
I
sent
you
a
subsequent
internal
message
to
all
of
you
saying
that's
wrong.
B
B
No,
I
know,
I'm
sure
aaron
we'll
say,
and
I
most
definitely
will
say,
is
that
we
process
and
aaron
might
have
these
stats
I'll.
Let
her
jump
on
also,
but
the
number
of
ipras
we
process
at
the
city
of
santa
fe
is
about
half
of
what
the
city
of
albuquerque
processes
and
our
staff
size
is
literally
a
fraction
of
it.
So
really
I.
H
H
Half,
but
it's
definitely
a
larger
proportion
like
you,
cannot
compare
our
population
to
albuquerque
and
proportionally.
H
The
number
of
operas
it's
significantly
higher,
for
whatever
reason
we
have
a
more
engaged
populace
and
who
wants
who's
more
engaged
in
government,
I
guess,
or
and
more
aware
of
ipra,
perhaps
some
something
we're
getting
more
operas
than
than
other
cities
that
are
much
larger,
so
kudos,
big
kudos
to
the
team.
H
That's
been
working
on
this
and
then
the
implementation
since
may
so
it
gives
us
a
much
better
idea
and-
and
it
gives
the
public
a
much
greater
access,
because
all
these
documents,
like
they
said
the
15
000
documents
that
have
been
downloaded-
that
might
not
even
be
everything-
that's
been
uploaded
by
staff,
because
not
everything
is
downloaded.
That
is
uploaded.
So
thank
you
all
for
joining
us
today,
mike
tanya.
B
Sorry,
just
one
more
point:
yep,
sorry
that
I
also
wanted
to
mention
is
that
we've
been
able
to
actually
now
collaborate
between
the
pd
iphras
that
we
hadn't
previously.
But,
as
aaron
mentioned,
a
big
transparency
piece
for
next
request
is
that
the
counselors
or
any
member
from
the
public
can
actually
go
to
the
portal
and
see
any
ipra.
B
That's
been
fulfilled
and
also
download
any
documents,
so
in
some
cases
we're
able
to
just
reference
a
different
ipra,
but
really
that's
a
huge
transparency
piece
for
us,
and
I
think,
due
to
this
software,
we're
understanding
in
a
more
total
picture
exactly
how
many
operas
we're
receiving
in
the
data
dashboard
that
cindy
shared
with
us
has
really
been
helpful
for
our
team
kind
of
to
see
exactly
where
oprah's
are
and
the
volume
in
which
we're
receiving
them.
So
that's
fine.
H
On
that
too,
christine
so
where,
as
we
get
other
things
online,
we're
able
to
use
the
opera
software
to
direct
folks
to
the
other
records,
we
have
online
too
so
that
if
it's
already
searchable
and
accessible
on
the
website,
they
don't
have
to
submit
an
info.
We
can
just
have
them
access
that
information
from
another
section,
so,
for
example,
for
intergov.
I
believe,
if
you
put
in
certain
keywords
now
on
that
search
box,
it
it
says
if
you
have
an
intergov
account,
you
can
also
get
this
information
there.
H
So
for
certain
folks
that
are
using
that.
So
that's
kind
of
a
crush,
a
cross
initiative
benefit
between
land
use
and
next
request,
as
well
council
and
councillor
villarreal,.
L
L
No
just
that
she
is
actually
they're
scouring
our
emails
for
a
search
for
a
certain
topic
already,
like
the
only
reason
why
I
assumed
that
the
midtown
we
she
was
doing.
That
is
because
she
gave
us
numbers
of
the
number
of
emails
that
she
was
able
to
to
locate
and
so
that
to
me
I
had
to
think.
Oh,
I
guess
she
already
did
that,
but
can
can
cindy.
Can
you
actually
let
us
know
if
you
do
that
search
and
then
we'll
know
if
we
need
to
do
more
follow-up
on
a
topic.
G
H
G
H
H
B
K
Thank
you
I
feel
like
this
is
timely,
because
there
were
some
issues
that
came
up
during
the
meeting
on
wednesday,
so
I'm
gonna
start
by
just
addressing
those.
There
were
three
issues
that
I
that
I
noticed.
The
first
was
that
some
of
the
attachments
during
the
meeting
were
unavailable,
and
that
was
a
server
issue
with
primegov
and
that
was
resolved
in
a
fairly
short
time
period.
K
I
think
so
that
was
number
one
number
two
is
that
I
know
some
people
have
been
having
trouble
with
the
document
viewer
timing
out,
especially
when
they're
in
there
for
a
long
time.
Maybe
during
a
when
it's
a
long
discussion
item-
and
I
mistakenly
told
a
couple
of
you
that
that
that
had
been
fixed
in
an
update
from
primegov,
what
I
failed
to
see
is
that
the
update
actually
goes
into
effect
today,
so
hopefully,
after
today,
that
will
not
be
an
issue
anymore.
K
But
if
it
does
happen,
please
let
me
know
so
that
I
can
raise
that
issue
with
prime
graph.
Lastly,
the
issue
that
counselor
via
mentioned
was
that
she
in
when
you
go
into
an
attachment
you
have
that
ability
to
make
annotations
and
notes.
However,
they
don't
save
so
if
you
then
close
out
of
that
attachment
they're
not
there
when
you
go
back
which
completely
defeats
the
purpose
of
that
feature.
So
I
raised
that
with
primegov
as
well.
K
They
realized
that's
a
bug
that
they're
working
on
fixing
out,
so
those
are
the
three
issues
from
wednesday,
so
I'm
just
going
to
hopefully
zoom
through
this
presentation
quickly.
I
K
K
Yeah,
so
they
were
able
to
fix
that
fairly
quickly.
Okay,
thanks,
okay,
so
forgive
me
for
the
cheesiness
this
little
cheesy.
K
A
long
time
ago,
in
a
city
far
far
away,
we
they
used
to
use
packets,
paper,
packets
for
everything
all
of
the
committees,
44
city
committees,
almost
50
committees-
all
use
paper
packets.
Well,
obviously
it
wasn't
a
long
time
long
time
ago
and
it
was
the
city
of
santa
fe.
We
used
paper
packets
for
everything
and
I'm
not
sure
if
anyone
really
understood
how
much
paper
that
used.
K
But
I
I
looked
at
seven
committees,
I
looked
at
three
of
the
land
use
boards,
the
three
standing
committees
and
governing
body
to
see
on
average
how
many
pages
were
used
per
packet.
So,
as
you
can
see
here,
land
use
boards
are
typically
pretty
large.
Governing
body
can
be
700.
Sometimes
it's
more.
When
you
have
you
know
large
contracts,
you
have
bonds
or
lita
projects
and
so
total
for
one
meeting
of
these
seven
committees
equals
about
16
000
pages.
K
They
typically
meet
two
times
per
month,
you're
talking
32
000
pages,
which
equals
about
65
reams
of
paper.
We
all
know
what
a
ream
is,
it's
500
pages,
but
you
know
what
does
that
actually
mean?
Is
it
a
lot?
It
seems
like
a
lot:
it's
six
and
a
half
boxes
of
paper.
If
you
know
what
a
box
of
paper
looks
like,
but
what
does
that
mean
in
real
terms?
K
So
16
reams
of
paper
is
equivalent
to
one
tree,
one
tree
that
you
cut
down
to
make
paper
16
reams
so
one
month
for
those
seven
committees,
you're
chopping
down
about
four
trees,
about
50
trees
per
year.
We
were
chopping
down
and
turning
into
paper
for
those
seven
committees,
as
you
can
see,
a
wreath
of
paper
for
the
city
since
we
buy
in
bulk
is
about
three
dollars
and
fifteen
cents
a
ream.
So
it's
not
a
huge
financial
cost.
It's
about
twenty
five
hundred
dollars,
but
again
that's
only
for
seven
committees.
K
Right
now.
In
our
list
there
are
44
committees
in
the
city,
so
there's
still
37
that
are
unaccounted
for
now.
Granted
they
don't
use
nearly
the
amount
of
pages
that
most
of
those
other
committees
do.
But
I
I
think
we
can
safely
say
that
with
all
of
our
committees,
you
can
double
the
numbers
that
we
have
here.
So
we
were
using
100
trees
a
year
costing
about
five
thousand
dollars,
not
including
inc
other
materials
and
staff
time
to
compile
the
packets.
So.
K
Let
me
go
back
not
that
yet,
so
it
really
was
a
digital
transformation.
With
our
agenda
management
system,
we
used
prime
granicus.
Previously
some
of
the
committees
did
not
all
of
them,
but
that
really
didn't
negate
the
need
for
the
members
of
the
committee
to
have
paper
packets.
It
was
more
of
an
internal
organizational
tool.
K
So,
with
our
new
agenda
management
system,
we've
gone
completely,
digital,
no
packets
are
printed
and
we're
saving
a
lot
of
trees.
It's
a
very
environmentally
friendly
way
of
conducting
business,
which
brings
us
to
the
next
slide,
which
is
electronic
signatures.
K
Efficient,
environmentally
friendly,
secure
and
accessible,
and
the
legislative
services
office
implemented
electronic
signatures
in
spring
of
2019,
so
that
was
a
full
year
before
the
pandemic
necessitated
that
city
business
be
conducted
with
electronic
signatures.
So
I'm
proud
of
that
fact-
and
on
that
note
I
do
want
to
mention
that
I'd
send
an
email
to
all
of
you
about
getting
your
actual
signatures
uploaded
into
adobe,
so
you
can
use
those
I've
worked
with
a
few
of
you.
K
I've
had
the
mayor's
since
2019,
so
I
really
would
like
to
get
all
of
you
using
your
actual
signatures
in
adobe.
Sign
it's
a
fairly
painless
process.
I
think
counselor
sanchez
for
you
being
the
guinea
pig,
it's
a
little
more
difficult
to
do
it
remotely
than
standing
over
your
shoulder,
but
I
would
like
to
to
do
that
so
after
this
I'll
send
out
another
email
for
those
of
you
who
have
not
done
that
to
please
give
me
half
an
hour
at
the
most
to
set
that
up
for
you.
K
So
primegov
is,
is
just
one
of
the
digital
transformation
aspects
of
the
city
that
we've
seen
energub
is
one
next
request
is
another.
The
crm
that
isabella's
going
to
talk
about
is
a
as
a
third
or
fourth,
I
guess
so.
We're
really
talking
about
efficiency,
accuracy,
standardization
for
the
agenda,
specifically
transparency,
the
people
are
the
public
as
much
is
able
to
access
the
information
much
much
easier,
it's
a
modernization
and
then
accessibility
for
the
public
for
staff,
as
well
as
the
members
of
the
committee's
mayor
and
the
counselors.
K
So
that's
all
I
have
under
my
presentation
I
wanted
to
quickly.
I
know
I
think
there
are
maybe
five
or
sixty
of
you
that
that
use
the
internal
version
of
prime
go
up
on
a
regular
basis.
I
just
wanted
for
those
of
you
that
don't
I
just
want
to
sort
of
give
a
brief
outline
of
the
benefits
of
doing
that
and
concept.
Video,
I'm
going
to
give
you
another
way
that
you
can
have
notes
saved,
so
they
don't
disappear.
K
So
when
you
log
in
you
come
to
the
dashboard,
you
go
to
meeting
viewer
and
I'm
logged
in
as
a
counselor.
So
I
I'll
have,
I
have
the
exact
same
view
that
you
do
you'll
click
on
the
meeting
that
you
want
to
look
at.
We
have
all
these
upcoming
meetings
also.
So
if
you
want
to
go
and
look
at
finance
committee
for
next
week,
you
can
go
ahead
and
do
that.
K
K
K
So
here
I
have
the
agenda
for
today
and
you'll
see
that
we
already
had
this.
I
went
and
did
this
earlier.
We
have
this
motion
and
second,
to
approve
the
agenda.
So
that's
in
here
we
can
even
go
in
and
look
at
what
the
vote
was.
K
You
see
none
of
these
actually
have
attachments.
I
added
this
one
just
for
a
demonstration
purpose.
So
if
we,
if
we
go
into
this
one,
which
is
the
active
item
right
now,
you
can
click
on
the
attachment,
it
will
show
it
up
here
you
have
a
couple
options
and
actually,
since
the
annotation
feature
isn't
working
right
now,
the
other
thing
you
could
do
is
download
the
attachment
and
take
the
notes
on
your
personal
device.
That
would
work
as
well.
K
K
Make
a
note
there
when
this
is
working,
and
I
will
certainly
let
you
know
when
they
fixed
it.
You
can
save
the
annotations.
K
K
I
K
And
so
you
have
multiple
notes
here,
so
you
could
for
each
question
that
you
have.
You
could
insert
them
there
before
I
move
on
to
the
next.
There
are
two
other
quick
parts
I
want
to
talk
about.
Are
there
any
questions
about
this
particular
part.
Q
K
K
L
For
example,
when
I
was
looking
at
those
notes
and
trying
to
figure
out
like
maybe
cut,
cutting
and
pasting
what
was
in
the
attachment,
so
that
I
could
actually
move
it
to
note
so
that
I
could
make
more
notes
on
there.
If
that
makes
sense-
and
I
don't
see
a
feature
to
do
that-
to
actually
go
into
the
attachment
and
then
copy
and
paste
something
in
the
attachment.
K
L
K
L
K
I
don't
know
why
that's
happening
I'll
have
to
pass
their
support
about
that.
S
K
S
That
was
happening
to
me,
you
might
recall,
and
what
it
was
is
that
I
hadn't
really
I
hadn't
signed
out.
I
guess
from
the
last
sessions
and
it
just
was
messing
up.
So
you
told
me
to
log
all
the
way
out
and
then
sign
in
again
and
including
off
safari
and
our
well
my
safari
and
then
sign
in
again,
and
then
it
worked
so
counselor.
You
might
try
that
I.
Q
Okay,
I
really
do
need
to
fix
that
feature.
I
just
sent
you
jesse
a
screenshot
of
of
what
happens
so,
for
instance,
right
now,
I'm
I'm
trying
to
get
back
to
the
meeting
agenda.
This
meeting
agenda
because
I
went
and
looked
at
the
finance
agenda
and
it's
it's
not
letting
me
back
to
that
agenda
just
keeps
it's
as
though
I'm
you
know
the
staff
and
it
says
active
motion
and
everything's
waiting.
Q
K
And
like.
K
K
Okay
I'll
ask
them,
because
that
that's
actually
not
that's
a
different,
that's
a
display
view,
which
I
don't
even
know
how
you'd
have
access
to
that,
but
I'll
ask
them,
because
that
I've
never
had
it
happen.
So
I'm
not
sure
why.
K
Q
K
Good
to
know,
okay,
any
other
questions
on
this.
K
The
easiest
would
be
to
to
well
I
mean
I,
the
packet
really
should
ever
be
700
pages
that
should
be
split
up
into
the
different
parts.
So
that
way
you
can
just
print
the
memo.
So
that
would
be
you
know,
that's
that's.
What
we're
working
on
getting
staff
to
do
and
they've
been
doing
a
good
job
of
breaking
it
up
into
the
different
parts.
As
you
can
see
with
legislation,
for
example,
we
have
the
memo.
We
have
the
resolution
of
bill,
we
have
the
fire,
we
have
any
attachments.
K
We
have
public
comment,
we'll
have
the
action
sheets
up
there,
all
as
separate
attachments,
so
that
you
can
view
whatever
you
want.
So
you
don't
have
to
open
up
a
700
page
document
and
try
and
search
for
what
it
is.
You're.
Looking
for.
Q
Q
Q
Nope
I'm
on
my
computer
and
then
it'll
say,
save
and
you
say,
save
and
then
from
there
you
can
print
it.
You
can
just
yeah,
because
otherwise,
if
you
try
to
print
it'll
print
like
just
a
quarter
of
the
page,
but
I
think
that's
an
important
process
that
we
all
may
want
at
some
point
like
if
you
want
to
print
the
staff
memo
on
a
particular
agenda
item.
K
K
Okay,
anyone
else
and
as
you
notice,
jeff,
went
in
and
activated
this
item.
So
when
you're
in
the
internal
view
you'll,
if
you
you
know,
have
to
get
up
and
use
the
restroom
or
you
need
to
get
a
drink
of
water,
look,
you
can
come
back
and
see.
Okay,
we're
selling
the
item
or
oh,
we
move
to
the
next
item
and
then
you
also
see,
as
the
votes
are
inputted
you'll
see
those
pop
up
here.
So
you
can
go
back
and
see
what
the
vote
was
or
who
made
the
motion.
All
that.
K
K
You
can
see
here
that
we
have
the
the
governing
body
workshop
on
here.
Let
me
just
refresh
the
page
quickly,
hopefully
so
you'll
see
we
have.
This
meeting
is
live,
and
you
see
up
here
on
the
internal
view
when
we
start
the
meeting.
This
live
button
pops
up
here
this
pops
up
from
the
on
the
public
portal.
I
also
went
in
and
linked
the
youtube
video
right
at
the
beginning.
K
So
if
I
click
in
the
on
this,
it's
gonna
pop
up
the
youtube
video
look
there
we
are
so
people
can
access
the
the
video
directly
from
there.
If
they
want
to
watch
it,
they
don't
need
to
go
in
and
try
and
find
the
link
on
the
agenda
or
go
to
youtube
and
search
for
it.
They
can
find
it
right
there
and
then
they
have
everything
available
here
for
the
agenda.
There's
obviously
not
much
on
here,
and
we
also
have
this
linked
here
as
well.
K
Let's
do
this
one
they
wanted
to
to
hear
about
this,
and
if
they
click
play
here,
it
jumps
them
directly
to
that
portion
on
the
youtube
video.
So
they
don't
have
to
listen
to
three
hours
of
a
youtube
video
trying
to
find
out
when
this
particular
item
was
being
discussed
so
that
that's
just
it
we're
able
to
put
bookmarks
in
and
attach
them
to
the
youtube
videos.
So
the
public
can
easily
more
easily
access
a
particular
item.
They're
looking
for.
L
K
Agenda
and
packet
are,
as
far
as
I
can
tell
exactly
the
same,
and
then,
if
you
click
on
this,
we
have
the
pdf
packet
as
well.
Okay.
K
The
last
thing
I
wanted
to
show
and
actually
I'll
show
it
before
today
is
if
we
click
on
the
html
agenda.
For
today
we
have
this,
and
christine
mentioned
this.
We
have
this
at
a
previous
meeting.
We
have
this
translate
feature,
so
we
can
go
down
here.
Spanish
is
probably
going
to
be
the
most
popular
one
used.
We
get
spanish
and
it
automatically
and
instantaneously
translates
the
agenda
into
spanish.
K
L
K
Yeah
because
the
captions
just
saved
to
youtube
so,
okay,
they
all
show
up
now,
just
as
a
note
we're
we're
not
doing
closed
captions
for
every
meeting,
we're
limiting
it
to
governing
body
the
city
council,
standing
committees,
the
land
use
boards,
and
then
there
are
a
couple
of
the
advisory
ones
that
we
felt.
It
would
be
helpful
for
the
immigration
committee,
because
we'll
soon
have
the
ability
to
do
spanish,
captions,
the
mayor's
committee
on
disability,
for
obvious
reasons,
and
then
the
community
health.
The
your
task.
K
Force
so
those
are,
those
are
the
ones
that
are
that
are
receiving
closed,
captions.
N
Londell
here
you
said
previously
that
you
had
gone,
that
you
were
signed
in
as
a
counselor.
K
K
This
is
so
the
this
website
up
here.
Sanfe.Primroof.Com
public
portal
is
the
public
portal,
so
this
is
where
the
public
goes
to
access
the
the
agenda.
So
the
this
part
up
here
on
the
the
left
and
that
in
the
top
they
won't
have
that
their
page
will
start
sort
of
right
here.
But
it's
because
I
have
an
account
and
I'm
signed
in
that
this
shows
up.
N
Yeah
is
that
a
easy
click
in
from
the
city
website.
K
Yeah,
this
is
the
link
that
the
clerk's
office
publishes
for
all
of
the
meetings
when
they,
when
jarelyn
or
xavier,
send
out
the
email
email
each
friday,
which
you'll
get
in
a
few
hours
most
likely.
They
will
send
a
link
to
this
exact
website
for
all
of
the
meetings
of
this
week.
As
you
can
see,
some
of
them
are
published
later
on.
Planning
commission
publishes
their
agenda
further
out,
so
that's
already
up
here
and
available
for
the
public.
I
F
N
L
On
that
point,
if
we
go
through
this
route
through
the
city
website,
then
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
access
our
notes
and
things
that
we
added
to
our
own
personal
portal.
K
K
The
last
thing
I
wanted
to
touch
on
was
just
a
a
future
feature
that
we
are
going
to
be
getting,
which
is
a
committee
manager
and
it's
going
to
allow
us
to
better
track
all
of
the
members
of
the
various
committees,
their
terms,
the
various
requirements
for
those
members.
So
I
here
I
have
edac
pulled
up
and
it
shows
the
members
we
have
council
v
hill
coupler.
As
the
chair.
We
have
all
the
members.
K
We
have
the
the
two
new
members
that
were
appointed
at
the
last
meeting
ryan
gallagher
joanna
nelson
they're.
In
here
we
can
see
that
ryan
and
kate
and
victoria's
terms
are
going
to
be
ending.
Let's
see
at
the
end
of
may,
so
you
know
we
may
want
to
start
planning
to
advertise
those
positions
and-
and
once
we
have
this
committee
manager
feature
implemented,
what
we
can
actually
do
is
go
into
this
particular
position,
actually
not
there.
Although
let
me
talk
about
this
first,
so
we
can
select
required
training.
K
K
And
we
can
advertise
the
position
and
that'll
put
it
up
on
the
cities
or
you
know
on
the
main
website.
If
we
know
someone
who
might
be
interested
or
who
would
be
a
good
fit,
we
can
put,
we
can
put
in
their
email
address
and
send
that
so
at
all,
so
that'll
be
a
new
feature.
Coming
up
will
allow
clicks
office
to
keep
much
better
track
of
the
committees
and
members,
as
well
as
the
liaisons
for
those
particular
members.
N
No,
but
I
have
a
question
on
the
last
part:
we
were
in
jesse,
it's
council
vendel
again
when
you
go
back
to
I'm
I'm
on
this
from
the
city
website
and
I'm
looking
under
meetings
and
agendas
and
I'm
say
going
to
2020.
N
how,
on
there
do
I
see
the
video
of
a
meeting.
K
Remind
me,
how
did
you
get
there?
Did
you
click
on
hot
topics
or
you
got
to
it
from
here.
K
One
thing
we
need
to
change
is
that
this
is
linking
to
a
different
portal.
It's
a
search
portal,
so
it's
a
little
different.
So
this
is
not
showing
the
video,
so
we
do
need
to
update
that
with
clerk's
office,
so
we'll
get
that
fixed.
K
So
if
we,
if
you
click
on
the
the
one
in
this
gray,
bar
the
meeting
agendas
and
packets,
it
takes
you
to
this
public
portal.
And
so
you
have
the
video
here.
If
you
scroll
down
to
the
archive
meetings,
you'll
be
able
to
access
the
videos.
K
K
Excellent,
unless
there
are
any
other
questions,
just.
L
A
question
on
the
committees
who.
K
K
Right
this
part,
I
believe,
is
just
the
at
or
just
the
admins,
so
that
and
like
I
said
this
is
not
fully
set
up,
so
I
don't
know
the
specifics
of
it,
but
there
will
be
a
public
accessibility
part
where
they
can
view
all
of
the
members
of
the
various
committees.
There's
no,
we
can
limit.
You
know
we
can
limit
it
so
that
there's
no
identify,
not
identifying
information,
but
you
know
phone
numbers.
Email
addresses
all
that
we
can
have
it
so
that
that
information
is
not
publicly
accessible.
K
So
if
we
go,
we
already
have
that.
Actually,
if
we
go
into
the
profile
here,
we
have
a
description
which
is
pulled
directly
from
the
ordinance
we
have
the
liaisons
fabian
and
then
we
have
the
eligibility
of
those
members
and
then
based
on
the
positions
we
can
set
that
eligibility.
So
if
we
go
in
here
and
look
required
qualifications-
member
of
the
governing
body,
so
this-
and
this
is
not
checked-
we're
not
going
to
allow
public
applications
because
we
can't
it's
a
member
of
the
governing
body.
K
But
if
we
go
in
here
and
so
it's
you
know,
specific
requirements
on
the
membership
and
then
we
can
allow
public
applications
for
that.
So
any
applications
that
you
get
will
need
to
fill
whatever
requirements
they're
specific
to
either
that
committee
or
certain
committees
have
requirements
for
very
specific
positions
on
that
committee.
Like
otam,
for
example,
you
need
you
know,
representatives
from
hospitality,
tourism
et
cetera,.
K
K
B
Thanks
jesse,
so
up
next
is
isabella
sharp
and
she
will
be
doing
a
quick
overview
on
the
crm
and
our
data
collecting
process.
So
izzy
don't
know
if
you
want
to
pop
on
and
then
do
your
screen
share.
A
Christine,
if
you're
keeping
track
of
the
attendance
counselor
beta,
informed
me
by
text,
he
has
to
jump
off
for
a
few
minutes.
So
if
you're,
noting
who's
here
and
who's,
not
here,
he's
stepped
away
for
a
few
minutes
to
take
care
of
some
business.
U
Yes,
thank
you
izzy
all
right,
okay,
so
we're
just
gonna
go
over
constituent
services
and
how
we
are
going
to
introduce
the
crm
system
and
kind
of
give
the
capabilities
and
the
benefits
to
using
the
crm
system.
So
in
april
of
2020,
the
office
of
constituent
services
went
live
with
a
brand
new
crm
system.
So
if
you
go
to
the
city
of
santa
fe
website,
we
have
our
call
out
boxes
here,
so
you
can
just
go
to
report
and
request
and
I'm
going
to
kind
of
just
give
an
overview
of
us.
U
You
know
how
you
enter
in
a
work
order
and
then
I'll
share
a
powerpoint
with
you
just
so
you
can
kind
of
know
on
either
my
end
or
on
the
publix
and
how
they
go
in
and
they
report
a
work
order.
So
through
the
crm
system,
we
have
different
type
of
categories
here
that
the
public
can
choose
from.
So
today,
we'll
just
say:
we'll
go
with
road
maintenance,
and
maybe
there
is
a
pothole
that
needs
to
be
filled
so
with
also
just
a
highlight
on
every
request.
U
Constituent
services
has
worked
really
hard
with
all
the
different
departments,
to
kind
of
gather
and
collect
what
type
of
questions
they
need
in
order
to
help
the
field
workers
really
collect
what
they
need
and
what
supplies
they
need
when
they
go
out
and
do
the
job.
So
we
have
different
questions
for
each
report,
whether
it's
a
pothole
or
maybe
it's
graffiti,
or
maybe
it's
something
to
do
with
parks
and
trails.
So
there's
different
questions
for
each
category.
U
So
back
to
this
we'll
go
to
potholes.
One
of
the
questions
we
have
is,
if
it's
paved
or
if
it's
age
or
gravel
road,
just
to
kind
of,
add
some
fun
and
excitement
to
our
crm
system.
We
kind
of
ask
what
size
of
pizza
it
is
so
we'll
just
go
with
a
large
pizza
today
we
ask
them
to
please
describe
where
the
pothole
is
so
that
way.
U
And
then
here
you
just
have
to
type
in
the
location
you
can
really
zoom
in,
and
this
is
a
really
cool
feature
we
have
because
maybe
for
a
different
request,
maybe
it's
specifically
towards
a
house
or
it's
an
open
space,
or
maybe
it's
in
the
arroyo
somewhere
specific.
So
you
can
really
pin
it
there.
Constituents
are
also
able
to
upload
an
image
that
can
be
attached
to
their
work
order.
U
The
email
is
preferred.
This
is
the
best
way
for
constituent
services
to
be
able
to
communicate
from
start
to
finish
what
your
work
order
status
is
in
and
then
I'll
also
show
you
the
dashboard,
which
is
also
really
beneficial
for
your
constituent.
U
U
So
I
just
really
want
to
highlight
here
that,
through
the
crm
system,
we're
working
really
hard
to
gather
the
best
data
about
these
type
of
concerns
that
we
receive
and
how
to
evolve
and
how
to
be
efficiently
diligent
with
the
different
departments
and
how
we
handle
each
work
order
that
comes
into
constituent
services.
U
U
So
the
counselors-
you
all
have
your
own
dashboard
as
well,
that
we
have
created
for
you,
but
this
is
the
one
that
is
for
the
public
themselves.
So
once
you
go
in
and
you
create
your
work
order,
you
can
click
on
the
dashboard
really
cool
features
here.
It
kind
of
gives
an
overall
pie
chart
of
what
kind
of
concerns
we're
seeing
on
the
overall
pie
chart
and
the
percentages
that
come
with
it.
U
How
many
work
orders
have
been
submitted
in
the
last
60
days?
And
here
you
can,
you
know,
click
on
the
overall
status,
so
everything
here
in
green
with
the
last
500,
I'm
sorry
with
the
500
and
whatever
recorders
there
were
it'll,
show
you
the
percentage
of
overall.
How
many
were
either
in
progress
received
or
have
been
resolved
over
here.
U
It
will
show
the
constituents
as
well
the
top
five
work
orders
that
we
have
in
the
last
60
days
that
are
a
more
utilized
complainant
form
that
we
have
so
here
we
have
mistration
recycling,
illegal
dumping,
another
category
trash
and
recycling.
Maybe
your
trash
can
recycling
bin
needs
to
be
fixed.
So
those
are
the
different
type
of
reports
we
have
here.
U
We
also
have
the
counselors
district
map
here.
So
if
I
just
want
to
click
on
road
maintenance,
for
example,
everything
is
color
coordinated,
and
so
you
guys
will
be
able
to
see
where
the
different
road
maintenance
requests
are
and
then
it'll
also
break
down
the
different
work
orders
that
we
have
here
as
well.
So
for
myself,
since
I
just
created
this
work
order,
you
can
see
that
it's
still
in
the
submitted
status.
U
So
that
means
that
I
have
not
reviewed
the
work
order
yet
and
you
just
submitted
it
once
I
go
in
and
I
submit
the
work
order
on
my
end,
I'll
change
it
from
submitted
to
received,
and
then
the
constituent
will
also
be
able
to
they'll,
actually
receive
an
email
from
me
saying
that
their
work
order
has
been
received,
and
then
this
color
will
change
on
the
dashboard.
U
Should
they
wish
to
go
back
and
do
that
a
couple
other
things
to
highlight
with
the
report
in
the
request
page
is
you:
can
we
have
like
a
kiosk
and
so,
if
you're
needing
to
file
a
report
on
your
phone,
maybe
you're
out
and
about-
and
you
see
something
our
crm
system
is
compatible
with
smartphones
too.
So
you
can
also
use
that
there
and
I'm
gonna
stop
sharing,
really
quick.
So
I
can
pull
up
my
powerpoint
for
you.
L
U
This
is
actually
this
is
for
the
actual
public,
so
we
don't
have
a
as
you
can
see.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
information
on
here,
so
it's
not
gonna
show
you
know
that
your
neighbor
went
and
filed
a
complaint
about
them,
not
building
a
permit,
so
we
really
are
trying
to
be
discreet
about
how
much
information
we
give
on
the
dashboard.
Just
so
there's
not
that
type
of
retaliation
or
you
know
that
type
of
information
put
out
there.
U
So
it's
really
disagree
in
regards
to
how
much
information
we're
giving,
but
no
this
is
going
to
be
forward-facing
for
the
public
to
go
and
interview
and
to
look
at.
L
U
If
you
go
to,
can
you
see
that
I
switched
different
streams?
Yeah?
Okay?
So
when
we
come
here
to
the
report
and
request
page
so
if
they
did
file
their
request,
then
yes,
that
link
will
come
up.
But
if
not
then
there's
a
link
on
the
actual
report
and
request
page
for
them
to
just
go
and
click
on.
So
they
don't
have
to
create
a
work
order.
U
No,
so
here's
the
report
and
request
actual
page
and
the
link
is
right
here,
so
they
don't
have
to
create
a
work
order.
The
link
is
already
there,
but
in
the
message
as
well
once
they
do
submit
a
work
order,
it's
in
the
message
as
well,
so
they
can
get
it
from
and
and
also
when
they
do
receive
the
email
notification
from
me
saying
you
know,
thank
you,
renee
for
submitting
your
work
order
with
the
city
of
santa
fe.
Your
work
order
number
is
one
two,
three
four.
U
Here's
a
link
to
the
dashboard
constituent
services
has
like
a
whole
spill
in
the
email
that
we
have,
and
we
also
do
attach
that
link
to
the
dashboard
in
that
email,
notification
to
the
phone.
L
L
Okay,
the
other
thing
I
was
wondering
is,
I
know
you
all
try
to
refine
the
category
other.
So
now
I
see
two
others
that
we
get.
L
I
know
others
still
there's
this
other
one,
that's
still
pretty
large
and
then
there's
the
other
historic
district
concerns.
Murals
outdoor
lighting,
illegal
signs
et
cetera,
that's
the
other,
so
we're
still
a
general
other
being
very
large.
So
I'm
wondering
if
we're
refining
that
even
more
yeah
so.
U
I'll
speak
a
little
bit
about
that
in
my
powerpoint
too,
but
just
to
touch
base
with
you
about
other.
So
every
six
months,
constituent
services
kind
of
gathers
all
of
the
data,
that's
being
inputted
into
the
system.
So
maybe
we
don't
have
a
category,
so
I'm
gonna
give
abandoned
vehicles
as
my
example
for
you.
So
before
we
didn't
have
an
abandoned
vehicle
recorder,
and
so
in
the
other
category
we
were
seeing
many
work.
Orders
come
in
under
the
other
category
for
abandoned
vehicles.
U
So
every
six
months
I
kind
of
you
know,
tally
and
I'm
really
keeping
an
eye
on
what
type
of
requests
we're
receiving
and
then
I'm
working
with
the
different
departments
on
what
that
type
of
work
order
will
look
like.
So
that
way,
when
we
do
close
down
the
crm
system
for
that
one
week,
when
we
do
upgrades
and
maintenance
to
the
system
by
making
sure
that
we're
incorporating
those
different
work,
different.
R
U
Those
are
things
that
constituent
services
is
gathering,
so
others
kind
of
there's,
so
many
random
things
that
come
into
our
office
too,
and
sometimes
it's
just
a
question
like
I
need
to
pay
my
water
bill,
but
they
think
that
this
is
the
system
to
put
it
on.
So
they
think
that
the
other
is
where
they
need
to
pay
their
water
bill.
So
it's
just
a
wide
variety
of
different
complaints
that
maybe
these
categories
here
don't
fit.
What
they're
trying
to
file
or
what
they're
trying
to
ask.
R
U
Okay,
so
we
I
have
created
a
powerpoint
just
to
present,
to
you
guys,
just
to
kind
of
give
an
overview
on
the
report
in
the
request
system
and
why
it
is
really
beneficial.
So.
U
Just
to
kind
of
go
over
again
the
overview
and
the
process
of
constituent
services,
constituents
or
services
I
coordinate
with
appropriate
staff.
I
enter
in
the
work
orders
whether
it
comes
in
by
an
email
or
whether
it
comes
in
by
the
phone
call
that
we
receive,
and
then
I
enter
in
the
work
order.
I
provide
the
constituent
with
the
tracking
number.
U
I
monitor
every
single
work
order.
If
staff
has
some
type
of
note
or
additional
information
to
provide
to
me
in
response
to
their
work
order,
then
I
go
ahead
and
I
incorporate
it
into
our
crm
system
and
into
the
field
notes.
I
really
tried
to
help
centralize
these
requests
and
give
complete
a
complete
picture
of
constituent
needs
and
concerns.
As
I
had
said,
I
really
monitored
the
other
category.
U
U
This
also
really
helps
us
to
coordinate
with
multiple
departments
and
better
communicate
needs
all
the
way
around
with
everybody
just
to
really
emphasize
in
order
to
track
a
request
and
make
sure
that
they
go
sent
to
the
correct
staff
members
in
the
city.
All
requests
should
be
sent
directly
to
constituent
services.
U
We
are
only
able
to
track
these
requests
from
start
to
finish
if
they
are
sent
to
us
and
if
I
can
log
them
into
the
crm
system.
One
thing
to
also
highlight
with
that
note
as
well
is
whenever
the
governing
body
does
send
any
type
of
email,
or
maybe
it's
a
voicemail.
That
comes
my
way
from
you
guys.
I
do
have
on
my
back
and
a
a
section
where
I
can
put
the
work
order
on
behalf
of
an
individual
counselor
are
on
behalf
of
mayor
weber.
U
So
all
of
those
recorders
are
being
tracked
individually
for
you
and
for
your
constituents
as
well
as
I've
said
before.
Constituent
services
has
been
working
diligently
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
to
redevelop
a
process
that
not
only
helped
centralize.
These
requests,
but
also
I've
been
working
really
hard
with
the
excuse
me
with
the
departments
to
work
on
a
workflow
process
where
they
can
include
these
crm
systems
into
their
daily
workflow.
U
We
are
working
to
gather
the
best
data
about
these
types
of
concerns
that
we
receive
and
how
to
efficiently
handle
them
so
to
in
order
to
standardize
our
process,
we're
asking
and
kind
of
trying
to
look
at
this
in
a
bigger
picture
that
I'm
sure
you
guys
are
very
well
aware
of
as
to
as
we
are,
but
in
many
cases
multiple
staff
counselors
of
the
mayor
receiving
items
from
the
same
people
or
multiple
individuals,
and
this
is
causing
a
lot
of
confusion,
redundancy
and
inconsistency
in
constituent
services
response.
U
So
in
some
cases
the
item
is
not
being
tracked
or
submitted
to
the
appropriate
staff
members.
So
we
really
need
to
kind
of
be
involved
in
this
to
allow
the
tracking
to
be
more
accurately
and
so
we're
asking
that
maybe
a
simple
sentence
can
be
included
in
your
email
response.
That
would
say
something
along
the
lines
you
know.
U
Thank
you
for
your
email,
I'm
copying
constituent
services,
they
track
many
different
requests
and
information
and
problem
solving
that
we
get
in
order
to
provide
the
data
and
the
issue
of
greatest
concern
to
our
residents.
U
So
that
way,
even
if
it's
the
littlest
thing
or
just
a
simple
question
that
way,
we
can
really
start
to
collect
that
data
and
we
can
really
start
to
grasp
what
is
needed
from
the
city
of
santa
fe.
So
just
a
couple
of
tools
for
you
counselors.
U
As
you
know,
you
all
have
your
own
very
built
out,
counselor
dashboard.
That
is
very
handy,
and
so,
if
you
don't
have
a
login
to
your
dashboard
or
if
you
need
some
training
on
how
the
functions
work,
I'm
very
happy
to
schedule
a
meeting
with
you
and
we
can.
You
know
I
can
review
everything
on
your
dashboard
with
you
help.
U
You
understand
what
everything
means,
and
so,
if
you
don't
have
a
login
or
if
you
do
need
a
training,
please
let
me
know,
and
I'm
happy
to
set
that
up
with
you
guys.
U
You
also
receive
a
seven
day
report
that
is
generated
every
friday
afternoon,
and
I
send
you
a
very
detailed
report
that
lists
you
know
what
type
of
issue
was
reported
that
week
what
the
report
was
generated
on
behalf,
whether
it
was
by
the
staff
or
the
public,
with
the
status
of
the
work
order
in
and
then
if
it
is
on
behalf
of
the
counselor.
U
So
this
is
kind
of
the
page
here
that
you
see
with
the
picture
on
the
side
just
showing
you
know
how
many
requests
have
been
generated
on
behalf
of
each
of
the
counselors.
U
Also,
as
I
showed
you
on
the
forward-facing
map,
but
it
really
goes
into
a
lot
more
detail
on
your
counselor
dashboard
map.
The
district
map
really
pinpoints
what
is
going
on
in
the
city,
so
this
is
really
good
for
constituent
services
to
be
able
to.
You
know,
look
at
the
different
times
of
when
maybe
we
have
a
spike
in
weeds,
or
maybe
we
have
a
spike
in
pothole
requests
or
something
of
that
nature,
so
that
really
helps
constitutional
services
kind
of
brainstorm
with
each
department.
U
U
So
just
a
little
bit
of
some
data
and
some
numbers
for
you
guys,
I
thought
it
was
really
cool
and
I
really
want
to
just
really
put
it
out
there
for
all
of
the
different
departments
and
all
of
the
field
workers
that
really
go
out
and
they
go
above
and
beyond
putting
these
numbers
together.
It
was
really
like
a
proud
moment
for
the
city.
U
On
my
end,
I
have
to
see,
but
from
april
of
2020
to
today's
date,
when
I
ran
the
report,
there
were
3044
work,
orders
that
have
come
into
our
system.
U
Big
highlight
last
week
received
90
new
crms
on
a
monthly
average.
We
receive
around
285
work
orders
and
then
usually
turn
around
time
for
us
to
close
out.
Those
work.
Orders
is
anywhere
between
two
to
five
days.
U
In
our
old
crm
system,
the
city
received
2410
work
orders
and
in
2020
last
year
we
received
a
total
of
3
753
work
orders
and
out
of
those
3
000
753
2
645
of
those
were
from
our
new
system.
Again.
U
Just
to
reiterate
those
numbers,
as
we
said
in
the
beginning
here
in
april
of
2020,
is
when
we
went
live
with
the
new
system,
so
part
of
those
recorders
were
from
our
old
crm
system,
as
well,
so
just
to
highlight
the
city
addressed
1300,
more
complaints
in
2020
than
in
2019,
and
so
that
is
a
56
percent
increase
on
our
end,
just
some
goals
that
we
have
for
our
crm.
U
We're
really
trying
to
streamline
our
efforts
with
the
department
and
create
and
implement
a
one-stop
shop
and
make
filtering
these
requests
issues
and
concerns
more
efficient
for
everyone.
I
think
you
know
for
the
governing
body
for
staff
and,
more
importantly,
for
the
constituent.
Just
so
again,
we
can
really
centralize
where
that
work
order
needs
to
go
and
who
it
needs
to
go
to.
U
We
generate
a
crm
constituent
service
page
on
our
city
website
and
we're
going
to
be
highlighting
all
of
our
data
on
a
monthly
basis,
we're
doing
yearly
and
monthly
reports
to
the
department
directors.
So
they
can
also
see
and
have
know
you
know
what
type
of
complaints
their
departments
are
receiving
and
how
often
their
their
employees
are
doing.
With
closing
and
addressing
these
work
orders
and
again
so
to
councilwoman
viarielle,
to
your
point.
U
So
by
biannually,
we
are
committed
to
upgrading
the
system
with
the
input
and
ideas
that
come
from
the
public
and
how
to
make
our
system
better.
So
I
just
you
know
again
to
highlight.
I
do
really
pay
attention
to.
You
know
what's
coming
in
into
the
public,
and
you
know
how
I
can
make
the
system
better.
What
kind
of
complaints
or
concerns
are
coming
in?
What
kind
of
form
do
we
not
have
that
we
do
need
to
see?
You
know,
as
we
have
a
spike
in
these
different
type
of
requests.
U
So
every
six
months
we
do
close
the
crm
system
out
for
about
a
week,
and
then
I
work
with
the
different
departments
on
how
I
can
incorporate
a
new
work
order,
or
sometimes
sometimes
the
constituent
has
an
idea
or
some
input
of
how
to
make
the
system
better
or
how
to
tweak
it
a
little
and
so
their
input.
Their
input
is
definitely
definitely
heard.
U
We
are
also
now
doing
weekly.
Did
you
knows
on
our
social
media,
just
to
kind
of
highlight
and
showcase
our
efforts
with
city
departments,
divisions
and
our
hard-working
staff,
and
we're
also
really
trying
to
redevelop
what
constituent
services
look
like.
So
we
no
longer
want
to
be
an
office
where
you
just
have
to
complain.
U
We
really
want
to
be
an
office
that
provides
accurate
information
and
we
can
assist
with
a
request
and
see
it
through
from
start
to
finish,
even
if
it's
just
a
simple
question
that
comes
through
our
office,
so
we
are
here
to
help
instead
of
taking
those
type
of
complaints.
U
I
just
really
want
to
highlight
here.
Oh
so
sorry
highlight
here
some
constituent
services
input
from
the
public
that
we've
received,
so
we
have
a
regular
user
in
our
crm
system
system,
mr
dan
frazier,
who
actually
wrote
a
new
mexican
article
on
the
crm
system.
That
says,
make
a
difference
right
here
at
home.
So
if
you
guys
are
interested
in
reading
the
article,
I
thought
it
was
really
awesome.
U
I
sent
him
a
personal
email
and
just
thanked
him
for
putting
that
out
there
to
the
public,
as
he,
as
I
said,
is
definitely
a
regular
user.
So
if
you
are
interested
in
me
sending
you
that
article,
so
you
can
look
into
it
just
let
me
know
these
are
just
a
couple
different,
exciting
feedbacks
from
the
public
once
they
receive
their
resolution.
Email
from
me,
so
some
people,
you
know,
say,
yippee.
It's
resolved
the
system
works.
U
Our
neighborhood
really
appreciates
your
timely
response.
Please
know
that
everyone
I
communicated
with
specifically
regina,
melissa
and
sam
were
outstanding,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
your
efforts.
It's
a
relief
that
our
whole
neighborhood
has
a
lot.
That's
cleaned
up,
so
we
really
enjoy
reading
those
different
type
of
email
responses
that
we
receive
once
we're
able
to
resolve
those
requests
that
come
to
us.
U
So
how
do
we
spread
the
word?
This
was
something
that
had
come
up
yesterday,
which
was
really
beneficial,
and
so
we
have,
as
you
all
know,
in
your
counselor
newsletters
in
your
monthly
newsletter.
We
really
highlight
the
crm
and
how
you
can
create
a
crm
request
and
where
that
link
is,
as
I
showed
you,
it
is
on
our
city
website
in
the
report
and
request
dropbox.
We
also
have
the
drop
down
menu
and
then,
if
you
do
go
to
the
constituent
services
page,
our
crm
system
is
linked
there
as
well.
U
We
also
have
another
really
good
advocate
for
the
city
of
santa
fe,
ruth
hamilton,
and
so
she
is
part
of
the
tiara
contenta
area
and
she
really
oversees
the
next
door
app
and
so
she's,
actually
taking
it
upon
herself
to
post
on
next
nextdoor.
U
Did
you
know
that
you
can
file
a
report
and
request
tool
on
their
nextdoor
app,
joel
betha,
and
I
created
a
video
tutorial
on
how
to
create
a
crm
system
or
I'm
sorry,
crm
work
order,
so
that
is
actually
listed
on
our
website
as
well,
and
that's
also
on
our
youtube
so
and
social
media.
As
I
said,
we
are
doing
a
weekly
did.
You
know
we
also
did
share
on
social
media.
U
Our
overall
2020
report
and
1
571
constituents
from
the
public
had
reached
our
social
media
post
and
had
commented
and
liked
it,
which
that's
really
good
and
just
in
closing,
if
you
have
any
comments
or
questions,
I'm
happy
to
take
the
time
to
try
an
overview
or
answer
anything
you
guys
might
have.
And
if
not.
Thanks
for
listening.
Q
Izzy,
yes,
thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
thank
you
for
all
the
work
you
put
in
on
the
city's
behalf.
It's
as
you've
noted
considerable.
I'm
wondering.
Can
you
send
the?
I
don't
know
if
I
need
the
whole
packet
that
you
have
there,
but
I'm
certainly
interested
in
having
the
statistics
that
that
page.
So,
if,
if
that's
something
you
can
email
me
or
all
of
us,
if
everyone's
interested
that'd
be
very
helpful,
thank
you
definitely.
S
I
was
wondering
so
when
I,
when
I
get
emails
and
respond,
I
usually
include
you
and
I
don't
include
like
I
don't
think
I
often
include
constituent
services.
So
so
what
do
you
prefer
and
and
who?
Who
is
constituent
services
and
in
in
terms
of
who
actually
gets
it.
U
Good
question
you
do
include
me:
I
am
constituent
services,
and
so
everything
that
you
do
sent
to
me
does
go
into
the
crm
system,
and
so,
if
you
can
just
include
myself-
and
I
think
just
for
christine's
radar
just
so
she
knows
what's
going
on
as
well.
If
you
can
just
include
myself
and
christine.
U
S
And
then
the
next
question
is
so:
if,
if
two
counselors
like
jamie
cassette
and
casey
sanchez-
and
I
do
the
same
one,
how
does
that
work.
U
In
all
reality,
it
is
on
my
list
when
we
go
in
march
to
do
upgrades
to
the
system
to
put
it
together
instead
of
individualized,
because
a
lot
of
the
times
so
I'll
use
youtube
as
an
example,
counselor
cassette
sanchez
will
email
me
first
with
the
response
to
the
constituent
and
then
a
day
later,
then
you'll
go
ahead
and
you'll
send
it
to
me.
U
But
what
I
do
you
know
highlight
is
that
in
my
field
notes
that
it
is
on
behalf
of
both
of
you
or
when
I
do
have
a
response
to
the
to
stop
out
in
the
field.
I
do
put
that
it
is
on
behalf
of
district
1,
counselors
or
district
two
counselors,
but
in
my
field
notes
in
internally.
On
my
back
end,
I
do
know
that
it
is
on
behalf
of
both
of
you.
S
Well,
I
ask
because
I
I
that
just
means
like
two
emails
for
you
to
read
and
so
like.
If
I
see,
if
I
get
one
and
I
see
counselor
sanchez
has
responded,
then
I
won't
respond
because
I've,
you
know,
I
know
you've
gotten
it
and
you're
you're
doing
it,
and
I
I'm
not
sure
what
counselor
kasich
sanchez
does
but,
but
I'm
it
I'm
just
wondering
like
do
you
prefer
both
counselors
to
respond
or
does
it
matter.
U
I
am
actually
going
to
leave
that
up
to
you
and
what
works
best
for
you,
like
I
said
in
my
powerpoint,
just
to
kind
of
standardize
our
process.
In
many
cases,
these
constituents
are
emailing
you
individually
or
emailing
the
mayor
individually,
instead
of
both
of
you
together,
and
so
I
do
think
it
is
really
helpful.
You
know
again
using
youtube
as
an
example
that
you
two
include
each
other
in
your
guys's
responses.
U
So
you
both
know.
What's
going
on
in
your
district,
because
a
lot
of
the
times,
I'm
receiving
a
couple
different
emails
from
a
couple,
different
counselors
with
their
different
responses
to
that
constituent.
So
I'm
personally
I'm
going
to
leave
that
up
to
the
counselors
and
how
they
feel
individually
about
their
constituents
and
how
and
if
they
want
to
include
their
other
elected
official
in
their
email
response.
S
B
I
didn't
know
if
anyone
else
had
any
other
questions,
but
I
do
just
want
to
know
that
izzy
doesn't
often
brag
on
herself,
but
she
is
amazing
and
honestly
she
has
just
really
revamped
this
entire
process.
As
she
noted
in
her
slideshow,
I
mean
we've
had
a
56
percent
increase
in
crms
and
izzy
is
processing
them
and
handling
them
out.
Just
her
work
with
departments
and
divisions,
we
constantly
get
compliments
on
how
much
easier
it's
been
to
add
those
requests
into
the
workflow.
B
B
That
said,
I
haven't
heard,
or
this
didn't
get
done
and
now
there's
so
many
that
thank
izzy
for
just
getting
the
work
done
and
you
can
see
by
the
closeout
and
by
the
numbers
I
mean
the
data
really
speaks
for
itself,
but
I
am,
I
do
just
want
to
say
that
I
know
izzy
doesn't
often
really
oversell
what
she
does
and
she's
really
phenomenal
she's
the
primary
person
on
all
of
the
crms-
and
I
myself
send
everything
to
her.
I'm
like
izzy.
I
just
want
to
double
check.
Is
this
in?
B
Did
I
log
this
right?
Did
you
get
this,
but
it's
been
really
helpful,
really
really
helpful
to
centralize
everything
through
the
crm
and
the
reports
that
the
departments
are
getting
monthly.
I
know
each
of
you
get
a
weekly
summary
from
izzy.
It's
all
been
really
beneficial
for
us,
and
I
just
the
last
thing
I
think
that's
been
really
helpful.
Is
we've.
B
We've
actually
been
able
to
see
where
in
some
cases
like
there
was
littering
in
one
area,
but
it's
because
a
fence
was
cut
in
a
different
area
and
izzy
will
actually,
you
know,
bring
the
two
departments
together
have
a
meeting
with
them.
Let
them
know
what's
going
on
and
they've
been
able
to
work
together,
so
she
she
definitely
sets
up
a
million
in
between
meetings
just
to
kind
of
help,
connect
everyone
and
say
I
noticed:
we've
been
getting
these
litter
complaints.
B
You
know
to
do
a
community
cleanup,
and
just
so
really
it's
been
amazing
over
the
last
year
to
see
that,
but
I
know
we
also
have
a
lot
to
still
cover
in
our
workshop,
so
I
won't
keep
that
too
much
more,
but
I
also
do
want
to
note-
and
I
think
jen
is
probably
still
on
that
jen
actually
through
her
skills
with
arcgis-
was
able
to
build
the
crm
system,
and
so
it's
been
amazing
because
we
can
modify
it
and
really
do
all
of
that.
B
So
jen
used
her
skill
set
in
arcgis
to
really
help
with
the
custom
crm.
It
saved
us
a
ton
of
money
and
time
and
helped
us
really
build
something
that
works
just
for
us.
So
I
of
course
want
to
brag
on
my
team
because
they
just
are
amazing.
So
thank
you
both
so
so
so
much
yes,
yes,
yes
and
then
we
will
move
on
to
the
next
item.
The
discussion.
Thank
you
both
jen
and
izzy,
for
all
of
for
all
of
your
efforts
and
counselor
roommate
worth
and
attorney
mcsherry.
B
H
All
right,
thanks
christine,
so
the
next
item
is
our
annual
review
of
parliamentary
procedure.
So
this
is
something
that's
contemplated
in
our
ordinances
as
an
annual
conversation.
H
So
and
actually,
over
a
week
ago,
council
remember
networth,
and
I
talked
about
what
would
be
some
helpful
topics,
so
they
don't
necessarily
include
everything
that
came
up
on
wednesday
this
week,
but
I
did
try
to
address
some
of
those
concerns
in
my
email
last
night
and
materials,
but
we
can
certainly
talk
about
those
as
well
after
we
talk
about
the
four
topics
that
we
had
planned
to
cover
today.
It
parliamentary
procedure
is
a
broad
area,
includes
not
just
robert's
rules,
but
actually
quite
a
few
other
governing
documents
beyond
robert's
rules.
H
So
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen,
and
so
we
tried
to
identify
some
timely
areas
that
could
be
helpful
and,
and
ideally
it
resolves
some
of
the-
I
think,
some
of
the
issues
that
had
come
up
before
this
week
that
we
thought
there's
maybe
an
easy
fix
for
in
terms
of
limiting
confusion
and
streamlining
our
processes.
H
So
actually
it's
like
you
can't
start
the
presentation
before
you
share,
but
once
you
share
it,
not
the
right
format.
Okay,
here
we
go.
H
H
So
we
thought
these
would
be
particularly
helpful
and
I
think
it'll
be
clear
why,
as
we
move
along
so
parliamentary
procedure
actually
includes
all
of
these
things,
robert's
rules,
the
law
of
british
parliament.
That
obviously
does
not
apply
to
us,
but
that
is
parliamentary
procedure.
H
H
So
for
the
city
of
santa
fe,
we
actually
have
to
consider
constitutional
constraints
and
cases
interpreting
them.
State
statutes
such
as
the
open
meetings
act
our
city
charter,
which
establishes,
for
example,
our
chairperson.
So
we
don't
look
to
robert's
rules
to
figure
that
out,
whereas
other
organizations
might
city
ordinances
regarding
legislative
procedures.
So
we
do
have
chapter
two
which
addresses
what
legislation
must
be
called
and
how
it
how
it's
written
and
that
type
of
thing.
H
So
that's
our
own
parliamentary
rule,
our
procedural
roles,
which
are
adopted
by
resolution.
I
sent
those
out
last
night
as
a
refresher.
I
think,
they're,
all
in
your
governing
body.
Manuals
too,
that
you
either
received
last
year
beforehand
for
one
of
the
orientations
the
hard
copy
they
were
last
updated
in
2016,
and
then
they
make
reference
to
robert's
rules
and
with
regard
to
a
few
things,
particularly
how
to
handle
motions
and
then
also
custom.
H
As
long
as
it's
consistent
with
other
applicable
rules,
so
bodies
can
start
to
do
certain
things
by
custom
and
as
long
as
a
point
of
order
doesn't
correct
them.
And
if
they're
working,
that's
okay,
but
if
they're
not
working,
then
the
written
role
needs
to
to
govern
and
then
there
could
be
more
specific
customs
that
are
even
just
more
specific
than
robert's
rules,
which
I
think
is
what
our
recommendation
on
main
motions
would
fall
into.
H
Is
that
we're
going
to
recommend
a
new
custom
that
we
think
will
be
helpful
in
terms
of
keeping
it
very
clear?
What's
what's
on
the
on
the
table
at
a
given
time
so
right
now,
any
of
the
following
are
permitted
motions
for
main
motions
move
to
approve
move
to
approve,
as.
I
H
By
the
finance
committee
or
any
other
committee,
move
to
approve
an
amendment
sponsored
by
councillor,
garcia
or
any
other
counselor
and
move
to
denied
so
right
now
those
are
all
options
and,
they're
being
mostly,
we
don't
move
to
deny
right
off
the
bat,
but
mostly
these
all
these
options
have
been
used
recently.
So
those
are
all.
These
are
all
options
right
now
our
procedural
roles
do
give
guidance
about
main
motions.
H
So
this
is
in
the
governing
bodies
document,
and
it
says
the
main
motion
must
be
on
the
floor
before
debate
can
take
place
and
only
one
main
motion
may
be
on
the
floor
at
a
time.
The
form
for
main
motion
is,
I
move
that
and
then
the
following.
If
a
motion
is
long
or
complicated,
a
council
member
may
request
that
it
be
in
writing
a
council
member
may
give
a
brief
explanatory.
H
Give
may
give
brief
explanatory
comments
before
stating
the
motion,
but
must
argue
and
debate
the
motion.
Only
after
it's
been
seconded,
a
movement
may
speak
first
on
the
motion
and
all
motions
require
a
second
to
indicate
that
more
than
one
council
member
is
interested
in
discussing
the
issue.
The
seconder
does
not
have
to
favor
the
motion
and
may
both
speak
and
vote
against
it,
even
if
you
make
a
second
and
if
there's
no
second,
the
motion
dies.
H
H
So
I
think
that's
that's
resulted
in
some
confusion
over
the
last
couple
years
in
terms
of
what,
if
two
different
committees,
favor
two
different
amendments
or
what?
If
one
amendment
was
introduced
later
and
the
different
committee
didn't
have
the
opportunity
to
see
it
yet
and
then
we
get
a
motion
to
include
certain
amendments,
so
that's
been,
and
that
creates
potentially
a
race
between
people
to
make
motions
as
to
which
amendments
will
be
included
and
not
included.
H
So
to
avoid
that,
and
I
are
proposing
that
for
legislative
matters,
the
sponsor
introduces
makes
that
brief
statement.
If
they
would
like
to
and
or
just
gets
the
opportunity
to
move
to
adopt
the
legislation
immediately
without
doing
first
hand
up
situation
and
then
also
gets
the
opportunity
to
speak
first
on
the
matter.
H
So
then
the
amendments
are
amendments
to
the
main
motion.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
have
a
conversation
on
that,
but
that
is
what
we're
proposing
and
the
mayor
could.
Basically,
as
as
the
chair
recognize
the
sponsor
first,
whenever
there's
legislative
matters
and
this
type
of
proposal
can
move
forward,
erin.
Q
I
think
it
would
be
important
to
go
through
the
whole
presentation
and
then
we
can
take
up
whatever
of
the
three
topics.
Okay,
are
of
interest.
I
just
want,
I
think,
important,
that
we
get
the
full
scope.
H
Okay,
so
that
is
that's
topic
two,
so
we've
already
covered
two
of
the
four
so
we're
doing
well
and
then
amending
the
main
motions.
This
does
relate
back
to
the
prior
proposal
as
well
with
a
standard
main
motion,
so
this
does
relate
to
the
prior
idea.
All
amendments
and
substitutes
would
be
amendments
to
the
main
motion,
so
so
here's
the
example
if
council
reviel
moved
to
approve
resolution,
2021-100
and
counselor
cassette
sanchez.
Second
in
the
motion
council
via
rail
would
have
the
opportunity
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
main
motion.
H
Well,
if,
if
the,
if
the
original
motion
has
a
second,
obviously
I
move
to
amend
the
resolution
to
include
amendment
one
as
proposed
by
council
rivera
in
resolution,
21
100
and
then
if
that
motion
receives
a
second,
then
the
debate
would
commence
on
the
amendment
to
the
resolution
and
so
that
amendment
to
the
resolution
is
a
is
a
secondary
motion
or
a
subsidiary
motion
to
the
main
motion
which
is
to
adopt
the
resolution.
H
H
Let's
see,
you
can
also
amend
an
amendment
which
sounds
like
something
we
probably
want
to
avoid
if
possible,
yeah.
But
you
cannot
amend
an
amendment
to
amendment.
It's
only
allowed
two
levels
down,
but
I
do
recommend
we
try
to
stay
away
from
that.
If
at
all
possible.
H
H
It
can
also
be
called
moving
the
previous
question,
and
it
is
also
what
is
called
a
subsidiary
motion,
because
it
can't
happen
unless
there's
already
a
main
motion
on
the
floor,
and
it
refers
back
to
the
prior
motion
that
was
made
or
multiple
prior
motions,
but
I
do
also
recommend
that
we
just
make
it
to
the
immediately
prior
rather
than
multiple
prior
in
order.
I
think
that
would
be
much
easier
to
follow
and
more
orderly.
H
H
Basically,
our
our
procedural
rules
and
robert's
rules
recognize
that
actually,
our
rules
require
that
everyone's
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
before
this.
This
emotion,
this
motion
or
question
is
called
and
what
that
means
is.
H
When
that,
when
the
person
makes
this
motion,
anyone
who's
had
their
hand
up
should
have
already
have
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
once
on
a
particular
motion
pending.
It's
not
you
can't
interrupt
to
make
this
motion,
but
you
can
make
it
at
the
end
of
statements
in
support
or
against
emotion.
H
So
you
could
be
recognized
to
speak.
Give
your
perspective
on
a
matter
and
then
call
the
question
all
at
the
same
time.
So
that's
that's
a
possible
way
to
do
it,
or
maybe
you
already
had
the
opportunity
to
speak.
You
raise
your
hand
again,
and
then
you
you
see
that
no
one
else
has
their
hand
up
or
that
anyone
else
who
has
their
hand
up
has
already
spoken
once
on
a
motion.
H
Then
you
can
call
the
question
and
that
could
be
the
only
matter
that
you're
raising
your
hand
for
and
basically
it
ends
debate
on
the
previous
question
or
motion
which
could
either
be
an
amendment
or
it
could
be
the
legislation
itself.
It
just
depends
on
what
the
prior
question
was
immediately.
Proceeding
motion
yep
go
ahead,
aaron
if
I
could
just.
H
Yes
yep,
so
it
doesn't
allow
interruption
of
debate
of
that
someone
else's
comments
and
you
would
have
to
receive
recognition
from
the
chairperson
in
this
case.
That's
the
mayor,
so
an
example
same
resolution
2021
if
that's
pending
and
counselors,
have
become
their
begun.
Their
second
round
of
comments
on
the
motion
and
then
counselor
beta,
could
raise
his
hand.
H
Mayweather
would
recognize
him
and
he
could
say
I
call
the
question
and
then
the
mayor
could
clarify
which
question
was
on
the
table
and
and
then
we
would
and
it's
not
it's
not
debatable.
So
that
means
that
then
you
don't
have
different
people
speak
about
whether
or
not
it's
a
good
idea
or
a
bad
idea
to
call
the
question.
You
just
need
a
second
and
then
it
goes
to
a
roll
call
and
then
it's
a
two-thirds
vote.
H
So
it
does
require
a
super
majority
to
pass
and
that's
because
well,
the
idea
is
that
no
more
debate
will
be
taken,
so
people
have
to
feel
confident
that
they're
ready
to
vote
and
if
it
fail.
If
the
vote
fails
on
calling
the
question
you
go
back
to
debate
on
the
prior
question,
which
could
either
be
the
amendment
or
the
main
proposal.
H
So
really,
those
are
the
four
topics
we
wanted
to
focus
on
today.
Some
other
topics
we
thought
might
be
helpful
in
the
future
would
be
postponing
versus
laying
on
the
table.
H
My
quotation
marks
got
lost
somewhere
on
the
other
side
of
postponing
points
of
order
and
questions
of
privilege,
points
of
order
and
questions
of
privilege
are
the
types
of
motions
one
can
make
that
can
interrupt
the
speaker,
most
emotions,
you
don't
interrupt
a
speaker,
but
those
those
are
one-
and
I
know
points
of
order
are
used
already
in
our
in
the
meetings
and
that's
a
great
way
to
if
you
think
something
has
gone
awry
in
terms
of
staying
on
topic
or
following
our
rules,
and
it
could
be
either
robert's
rules
or
our
own
rules.
H
Then
a
point
of
order
is
always
in
order,
and
then
you
can
resolve
it
right
at
that
moment.
So
that's
a
good
way
to
stop
anything.
That's
happening
before
it
goes
any
further
and
make
sure
we
all
are
on
the
same
page.
Regarding
what
role
we're
following
and
whether
or
not
we
are
on
track,
I
can
stop
sharing
or
I
can
pull
up
any
prior
slides
for
discussion.
H
So
I
think
counselor
beta
had
a
question.
C
H
I'm
not
sure
we
have
anything
in
our
rules
that
states
that
specifically,
we
could-
and
I
can
look
at
robert's
rules
on
that
topic.
It
does.
We
do
have
this
specification
that
for
emotion,
the
the
mayor
may
allow
that
person
to
speak
feet
first,
so
that's
that's
recognized
as
as
a
practice
potential
practice,
it
doesn't
say
shall,
but
I
think
the
general
custom
is
to
calling
people
in
order
it's
hard
to
tell.
Sometimes
I've
noticed
on
here,
I'm
not
sure
if
the
hands
always
show
up
in
the
right.
H
The
order
of
persons
with
hands
up
has
not
stayed
consistent,
even
though
I
so
I
don't
know
if
it
is
consistent
for
other
folks,
like
yeah,
the
mayor
just
raised
his
hand,
and
he
just
went
ahead
of
counselor
viral
on
my
screen,
which
I
don't
know,
if
that's
what
everyone
else
sees
or
not.
Okay,
whereas
like
so
the
order
of
hands
on
my
screen,
is
counselor
v
hill,
coupler,
mayor
webber
counselor
via
real
and
romero
worth
so
I
don't
know
if
we
have
a
way
to
yeah
it's
now.
H
It's
via
hill,
coupler
or
whatever
garcia
so
via
real.
So
it's
not
staying
in
order
for
me,
so
I
don't
know
if
it's
staying
in
order
for
other
folks
too,
when
anyway,
so
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
way
for
us
on
zoom,
to
keep
better
track.
H
Well,
do
you
know
what
I
I
mine
tells
me
that
I
can't
move
a
video
while
someone
has
their
hand
raised,
though,
does
yours
do
that
mine's
doing
that?
I
noticed
that
last
meeting
too,
I
could
still
drag
you
still.
Can
I
wonder
if
it's
because
your
hand
is
up
hold
on
so
now
my
hands
up,
but
it's
not
letting
me
move
people
anymore.
So
I
don't
know
I.
I
can't
mine's
not
letting
me
move
people
when
my
when
there's
hands
up,
but
we
might
have
different
permissions
or
versions
of
zoom
too.
H
Yeah
yeah
and
that
might
be
a
discretion
permitted
if
it's
not
otherwise
governed
that
specific
question
I
didn't
research
on
today.
I
think
my
experience
has
been
that
it's
generally
attempt
to
be
in
order,
but
there
also
could
be
situations
where
you
know
a
particular
person
has
information
on
a
particular
point,
so
there
might
be
a
reason
to
not
be
in
order
all
the
time.
H
So
I
can
follow
up
if
you
want
on
that.
One.
H
E
L
H
And
particularly,
if
you
think
that
we're
not
following
procedure,
then
you
would
raise
a
point
of
order
and
it
would
be
a
point
of
order.
Isn't
the
last
question
x
not
y
or
point
of
order,
this
we
were
supposed
to
be
on.
We
haven't
approved
the
minutes
yet
or
we
didn't
take
a
vote
that
kind
of
thing
that
would
be
the
most
appropriate.
If
it's
more
of
a
question,
then
I
think
it's
probably
a
different
motion,
but
point
of
order
should
be
like
you
think
that
we're
doing
something
wrong
like
that.
H
The
rules
are
not
being
followed.
These
questions
of
privilege,
then
it
probably
is
more
of
a
question
of
privilege.
L
But
we
don't
say
that
I
have
a
question
of
privilege.
It's
just
on
that
point.
I
mean
this
is
what's
confusing
to
me
like,
if
you're
trying
to
ask
questions
to
get
clarity
on
what
were
what's
procedurally,
what's
happening.
L
L
L
H
I
do
do
you
want
me
to
go
counselor
romeroworth.
Do
you
want
me
to
address
this.
Q
Yeah,
so
just
really
quickly,
I
would
say
aaron-
and
I
did
talk
about
this
and
I
I
think
as
a
group,
if
we
think
we
want
to
get
rid
of
this
practice,
we
don't
currently
it's
not
in
our
rules,
so
I
would
direct
everybody
to
page
9
of
our
governing
body,
procedural
rules
and
item
d.
It
says
there
are
three
three
times
when
you
can
interrupt
a
speaker
and
on
that
point
has
become
a
custom,
but
to
your
to
your
point,
councilwoman
via
real.
Q
It
is
sometimes
disruptive
to
the
person
who
is
speaking
in
their
train
of
thought,
depending
on
when
that
interruption
comes,
and
so
this
custom
that
we've
grown
accustomed
to
we
might
want
to
decide
as
a
group
is
something
we
no
longer
want
to
do
because
again,
it
isn't
called
for
anywhere
in
our
written
rules
and
aaron.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
add
on
to
that.
H
Yeah,
so
I
think
the
rules
do
not
currently
expressly
provide
for
it
and
they
do
give
the
reasons
that
an
interruption
is
allowed
for.
So
I
think
I
think,
avoiding
that
is
probably
a
good
idea
so
to
interrupt.
Really,
it
should
be
a
point
of
order
for
a
request
or
inquiry
to
attain
information.
That
requires
an
immediate
response,
which
I
think
is
what
you
were
talking
about,
counselor
about
like
wait.
What
what
is
this
vote
on
right
and
then
or
to
raise
a
privilege?
H
So
something
comes
up
that
no
one's
aware
of,
and
we
need
to
deal
with
it
that
type
of
thing
which
doesn't
that
doesn't
happen
that
often
for
the
question
of
personal
privilege,
but
other
than
to
address
information.
That
requires
an
immediate
response.
So
that's
one
of
the
sections
of
our
rules
that
refers
to
robert's
rules.
H
So
there's
there
are
a
few
there's
there's
a
lot
of
very
are
obscure
motions
that
could
be
interrupting
motions
that
I
don't
think
often
come
to
they're,
really
not
relevant,
often
with
this
group,
but
I
do
think
finding
out
any
sort
of
matter
of
personal
privilege
like
what
is.
What
is
the
actual
matter
on
the
table
and
a
point
of
order
are
probably
the
most
common,
so
I
think
we
can
probably
improve
there.
L
I
agree
I
mean
there's
times
that's
helpful
if
someone
has
some
information,
but
it
happened
so
much
that
it's
confusing
and
then
it
just
it
interrupts
the
train
of
thought
of
the
person
actually
as
a
floor.
So
I
don't
know
what
we
need
to
do
to
consider
that
maybe
just
be
cognizant
of
it
now,
but
let's
see
the
other
question
I
had
that
we
didn't
go
through.
Is
these
motions?
L
L
We
didn't
used
to
do
that,
and
maybe
that
was
just
something
we
just
had
a
different
approach
to
it,
but
we
never
had
to
put
emotion
right
off
the
bat
so
and
then
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
when
we
actually
do
that
that
I
think
there's
been
confusion
as
to
when
to
to
put
emotion
on
the
floor
for
consideration
right
away
and
it
and
it's
confusing,
because
some
items
that
are
say
those
procedural
transaction
transactional
decisions
that
we
have
to
make
that
are
usually
in
the
afternoon
session
or
the
afternoon
session.
L
And
then,
when
we
have
these
public
hearing
yeah,
it
feels
like
it's
different,
so
it.
H
Q
New
section
and
page
nine
of
the
governing
body's
procedural
rules
is
where,
if
you
look
at
roman
numeral
number
seven
specifically-
and
it
was
in
the
slide
in
one
of
erin's
slides
where
it
says,
a
main
motion
must
be
on
the
floor
before
debate
can
take
place
and
only
one
motion,
only
one
main
motion
may
be
on
the
floor
at
the
time,
and
so
this
is
in
our
procedural
rules.
It's
just,
I
think.
Q
Maybe
prior
councils
prior
to
the
city
attorney
was
not
observed,
and
so
that's
why
it
feels
new
and
again,
I
think,
as
we've
heard
throughout
the
day,
we
are
trying
to
modernize,
we
are
trying
to
professionalize
and
we
are
trying
to
pay
more
attention
to
our
rules
so
that
we
operate
more
efficiently
and
effectively,
and
I
think
this
is
been
one
area
where
the
city
attorney's
office
is
trying
to
help
us
pay
attention
to
the
the
rules
that
govern
us.
L
H
So
counselors
it's
potential
that
your
motion
could
be
to
deny
something
right.
So
it
is
important
to
know
what
you're
even
talking
about
like.
What's
what's
the
action,
that's
being
discussed
so
say
a
contract
so
this
so
these
procedures
in
terms
of
motions
starting
the
debate
relate
to
matters
that
aren't
a
public
hearing,
because
those
do
have
their
very
specific
outlined
procedures
that
include
having
the
public
comment
before
motion
is
made,
and
the
idea
for
that
is
is
pretty
straightforward,
because
maybe
all
the
public
comment
alerts
you
to
new
things.
H
And
now
you
want
to
make
emotion
and
deny
rather
than
emotion,
to
approve
right.
So
it
might
affect
what
your
emotion
is,
whereas
with
with
matters
that
don't
have
those
steps
and
are
really
subject
to
governing
body
debate,
you
need
to
know
what
you're
debating
before
you
start
debate.
H
Q
Exactly
yep,
absolutely
that's
why
we're
saying
that
from
now
forward
this,
if
you
are
the
sponsor
of
the
legislation,
obviously,
if
it
got
to
the
governing
body,
it
has
already
passed
one
or
more
committees,
and
therefore
it
seems
as
though
the
pro
the
the
proper
motion
would
be.
Q
What
the
sponsor
would
like,
which
of
course
is
to
approve
their
measure,
and
so
they
would
have
that
opportunity
to
put
that
motion
on
the
floor
speak
to
why
they
think
it's
important,
then
we'd
take
questions
and
amendments,
and
if
the
governing
body
does
not
want
to
approve
that
item,
they
would
vote
it
down
and
offer
a
second
main
motion
which
would
be
to
move
to
deny.
But
it
seems
like
to
just
create.
Q
I
don't
know,
instead
of
a
kind
of
a
a
jeopardy
situation
where
we're
all
racing
to
the
button
or
the
raised
hand,
it
just
seems
better
to
just
make
that
first
motion
the
one
that
entertains
the
passage
of
whatever
legislation
is
in
front
of
us.
L
H
Yeah
so
higher
precedence
or
higher
priority,
so
I
did
address
that
in
my
email
last
night,
but
I
didn't
prepare
slides
about
it.
I
prepared
these
slides
before
wednesday,
mostly
I
tweaked
them
a
little
bit
afterwards.
But
yes,
I
could
share
a
chart
on
that.
Specifically
if
you'd
like.
H
R
H
All
right
so
this
is
these
are
a
couple
pages
from
robert's
roles,
so
this
is
a
chart
for
determining
when
subsidiary
privilege
motion
is
in
order.
H
So
the
main
motion
you
see
is
on
the
very
bottom
here
and
that's
where
you
start
and
then
these
motions
that
are
above
it
are
the
ones
that
are
available
to
be
made.
While
a
main
motion
is
pending
and
there's
a
lot
of
different
stuff
going
on
in
this
chart,
but
you
can
kind
of
focus
on
a
different
aspect
of
it
at
each
time.
So
the
main
thing
is
that
anything
above
the
main
motion
can
be
made.
While
a
main
motion
is
pending,
so
you
can
postpone
indefinitely.
H
You
could
amend
the
main
motion
you
could
commit
whatever
is
being
discussed
to
a
committee
or
refer
it
to
a
committee,
but
you
first
need
to
know
what
you're
talking
about
before
you
commit
it
to
a
committee.
You
could
postpone
it
to
a
certain
time,
which
is
what
we
did
the
other
night.
We
postponed
it
until
it
was
going
to
be
heard
at
finance.
So
then
we
come
back
to
the
governing
body.
H
And
then,
if
someone
made
that
motion,
then
you
can
see
that
it's
not
debatable
because
it's
in
this
undebatable
category
and
then
you
there's
another
table
about
it,
needs
a
second
but
there's
a
one
of
the
other
tables.
I
shared
shows
some
of
that
the
rules
about
whether
it
needs
a
second
and
what
the
voting
number
is.
H
Most
most
motions
only
require
a
simple
majority,
but
we
talked
about
calling
the
question
which
allows
for
or
requires
a
two-thirds
majority,
and
so
you
can
see
that
some
of
these
are
considered
subsidiary
emotions
and
some
are
considered
privileged
motions
and
then
up
here
it
talks
about
the
order
of
precedence
of
motion.
So
if
you
had
a
main
motion
and
a
motion
to
mend
and
then
someone
else
motions
to
postpone,
then
the
postponement
emit
motion
would
have
priority.
H
So
you'd
have
to
resolve
that
one
first,
then
you
would
go
back
and
I
think
this
was
the
question
that
counselor
garcia
asks
is
when
it
came
back
to
the
council.
Maybe
you'd
be
back
here
at
this
motion
to
amend.
L
L
H
Right
so
it
would
be
on
the
table
at
the
time
that
the
postponement
ended
right
or
when
it
comes
to
fruition.
L
I
guess
wondering,
though,
is
in
wednesday's
meeting
there
was.
There
was
already
a
motion
in
a
second
and
then
we
have
this
other
option
to
postpone,
which
we
voted
on
right
now
postponed
to
move
to
to
go
back
to
committee,
but
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
that
first
motion
just
disappears.
After
that
it
does
it's.
It's
val
invalidated.
Q
But
if
we
do
the
rule
that
we're
proposing
the
the
very
first
motion
will
be
from
the
sponsor
again
right
and
presuming
that
the
sponsor
wants
that
bill
to
pass,
the
sponsor
would
say
again
move
to
approve,
and
then
we
take
that
up
and
we
decide
whether
there
are
enough
votes
on
the
council
to
approve
whatever
the
measure
is.
So
I
we
did
do
that
earlier
in
the
night
when
you
wanted
to
amend
the
minutes.
Q
I
think
there
was
a
motion
on
the
floor
to
approve
the
minutes,
and
then
you
had
some
changes
and
then
your
prime
gov
didn't
work,
and
so
we
basically
moved
to
postpone
the
minutes.
The
passage
of
the
minutes
until
the
next
meeting.
So
at
the
next
meeting
we
will
again
make
a
motion
to
approve
those
minutes
and
they
will
presumably
have
the
changes
that
you
had
wanted
them
to
have
before
we
take
that
final
vote.
Q
L
Q
More
research
on
this,
but
I
think
for
all
intensive
purposes
that
motion
that
motion
that
meeting
is
over.
We
will
we
will
bring
the
bill
back
after
it's
been
to
finance
and
I
think
to
the
city
attorneys
a
point
point
the
last
time
it
was.
It
may
not
be
the
same
bill,
maybe
well,
except
under
these
rules
yeah.
So.
H
The
one
thing
I
would
say,
yeah
yeah,
can
I
make
one
comment
on
that,
so
I
think
the
difference
one
difference
between
the
minutes
is
they
literally
might
change,
because
it'll
be
a
different
proposed
draft
of
the
minutes
and
we
would
need
a
new
motion
because
they're
going
to
be
changed
by
your
by
your
corrections
counselor.
I
do
think,
let's
look
a
little
bit
about
the
other
issue,
because
what
if
we
had
a
motion
to
amend
that
was
also
already
on
the
table
like?
H
Maybe
we
should
just
literally
go
back
to
that
point
of
the
discussion,
because
you
because,
because
of
that
priority
of
motions,
you
could
refer
to
committee
or
postpone
after
a
amendment,
the
main
motion
has
been
on
the
table
and
being
discussed
as
well.
So
maybe
we
actually
go
back
right
to
that.
I'm
not!
I
I,
let's
verify.
Q
Though
I
I
think
is
that
what
if
that
issue
is
resolved
somehow,
and
so
that
amendment
is
no
longer
germane
to
throw
yet
another.
H
H
S
So
my
some
of
the
things
have
been
discussed,
but
I
want
to
go
back
to
points
of
order
versus
on
that
point
and
I
think
we
should,
in
my
own
opinion,
we
should
curtail
the
use
of
on
that
point
and
whoever
wants
to
on
that
point
wait
their
turn
to
talk
about
whatever
it
is
because
it
is.
S
It
has
been
very
disrupting
and
I
don't
think
that
it
has
always
been
really
on
that
point
and
it
has
some
many
times
it
escalates
into
other
points
and
we
do
get
off
track
and
I
think
sometimes,
the
the
meeting
has
kind
of
been
commandeered
into
other
areas,
and-
and
we
almost
I
mean
we
seem
to
have
a
hard
time
getting
back
to
where
we
were.
S
S
That's
what
seems
to
me.
The
answer
was
ultimately
for
the
last
council
meeting.
H
I
think
we're
looking
into
that,
no
matter
what,
under
the
proposal,
the
sponsor
would
still
have
the
opportunity
to
make
the
motion
at
the
beginning
if
we
do
require
a
new
motion
at
the
next
meeting,
but
it's
I
don't
think
anything
necessarily
disappears.
The
the.
I
H
I
think
is
to
postpone
liter
literally
right
it's
to
bring
it
back
after
a
certain
time
and
under
the
motion
that
was
made
at
least
at
the
last
council
meeting,
meaning
so
the
matter
comes
back
because
it
wasn't
imposed.
It
was
not
a
postpone
and
definitely
it
was
postponed
to
a
certain
time
right.
So
it
will
be
on
the
agenda
again.
S
S
S
Okay
and
then
I
I
definitely
agree
and
have
experienced
that
the
sponsor
of
a
measure
is
the
one
who
gets
to
talk.
First,
I
see
it
in
the
legislature.
S
S
And
hopefully,
if
we
have
a
procedure
in
place,
it
will
look
fair
because,
frankly,
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that's
gone
down
that
I've
seen.
I
question
fairness
and-
and
I
think
we
ought
to
move
more
toward
that,
and
I
realize
everybody
wants
their
thing
to
go
and
I
realize
we're
free
to
talk
to
one
another
other
than
in
meetings,
but
I
think
we
all
need
to
realize
that
we
need
to
be
fair
to
one
another
and
we're
all
in
this
together
and
we're
we're
all
representing
our
own
constituents.
S
It's
not
just
us,
you
know
it's
the
people
behind
us,
the
people
watching
the
people
that
call
us
and-
and
we
need
to
have
a
sense
of
fairness
and-
and
I
I'm
stealing
those
words
from
the
supreme
court.
You
know
dignity,
dignity
and
decorum,
and
that's
really
important,
and
they
stress
that
and
it's
something
that
that
I
don't
believe
I've
seen
here
all
the
time
many
times
and-
and
I
think
that
you
know
chris
councillor
rivera's
points
they
really
hit
home
to.
S
We
need
to
get
back
to
that,
and
so
I'm
I'm
in
favor
of
that
and
I'm
the
one
I
feel
like.
I
should
have
had
the
first
opportunity
to
speak
last
council
meeting,
but
but
that
didn't
happen
I
know
I
will
get
that
opportunity
again,
and
so
I'm
appreciative
of
that.
S
S
If
we're
getting
off
track
on
something-
and
I
think
the
sponsor
should
have
the
main,
the
the
first
opportunity
to
talk
on
any
measure
that
they
that
we
that
that
person
brings
forward-
and
I
am
looking
forward
to
your
answer
on
emotion
on
top
of
emotion,
so
that
we
understand
how
how
that
works-
and
maybe
this
will
all
save
some
time
that
counselor
viadial
wanted
to
save
when
she
changed
the
meetings
to
four
o'clock
and
I
think
it's
working,
and
so
I
think
our
meetings
should
go
probably
more
smooth
and
I'm
willing
to
do
my
part.
H
Thanks
counselor
folks
might
also
want
to
look
at
page
two
of
the
governing
body's
rules.
They
do
have
a
sec
there's
a
section
on
public
decorum
and
it,
and
it
does
say
a
lot
of
the
things
I
think
counselor
v
helchler
was
emphasizing
in
terms
of
setting
an
example
for
the
public's
business.
H
So
it's
a
good
reminder.
It
also
yeah.
So
there's
there's
some
good
information
there.
Apparently
we
also
should
have
a
designee
by
the
chief
of
police
to
be
our
sergeant
at
arms,
which
I'm
not
sure
we
have
had
on
zoom.
H
So,
let's
see,
I
also
had
mayor
webber
and
then
councilor,
garcia
and
then
counselor
cassette
sanchez.
A
Thank
you
and
thanks
for
putting
this
together
today,
I
think
it's
incredibly
helpful
and
I'm
I'm
going
to
take
all
this
material
home
with
me
over
the
weekend
and
and
do
some
more
homework
a
couple
things.
I
think
the
the
points
about
public
decorum
are
really
well
taken,
but,
as
item
2a
says,
roman
numeral,
2
sub
section
a
says:
it's
not
just
a
decorum
between
each
other.
A
It
also
applies
to
city
staff
and
how
we
treat
people
who
appear
in
front
of
us
and
that
the
chair
may
call
people
to
order
if
they
are
making
personal,
intemperant
or
slanderous
remarks-
and
I
know
in
the
heat
of
the
moment
sometimes
opinions
or
feelings
get
hot,
but
taking
into
account
the
example
we're
trying
to
set
not
only
toward
each
other
but
toward
our
own
staff,
who
come
in
front
of
us
and
the
public
who
may
be
testifying
is
really
important
so
that
issue
of
public
decorum
governs
all
of
our
activities
and
all
of
the
people
who
are
speaking
to
us.
A
I
I
have
a
couple
of
very
specific
questions.
I'm
glad
we
got
addressed
the
issue
of
on
that
point.
I
think
it's
become
a
little
bit
of
a
custom,
that
is,
that
allows
for
a
large
amount
of
editorializing,
and
so
I
will
do
my
best
to
be
mindful
of
that
and
if
we
start
sliding
back
toward
it
to
be
politely,
informing
folks
that
we're
now
not
going
to
use
that
shorthand
for
interrupting.
A
I
have
a
question
about
calling
the
question.
One
of
the
items
in
the
calling
of
the
question
that
I
did
not
know
was
that
it
only
applies
if
the
everyone
has
had
a
equal
and
fair
opportunity
to
speak
to
the
matter
at
hand.
H
Well,
at
least
an
opportunity
at
least
spoke
once
yeah.
So
that's
our
rules
rather
than
robert's
rules.
A
Right
has
had
an
opportunity
what
I
I
know
that
in
the
run
of
a
meeting
I
always
I
don't
always
know
that
everyone
has
had
that
opportunity
or
has
accorded
themselves
of
that
opportunity.
What,
if
someone
attempts
to
call
the
question,
and
we
get
a
point
of
order-
I
haven't
spoken
yet
objection.
How
is
that
resolved.
H
So
I
think,
there's
one
of
two
ways
to
consider
that,
since
we're
on
zoom,
we
do
have
the
opportunity
for
everyone
to
have
their
hands
up,
so
we
could
either
it
could
either
be
there's
no
hands
up
or
if
someone
does
say
point
of
order,
I
haven't
spoken
yet
and
they
haven't.
Then
we
could
let
that
person
speak
first.
I
think
those
are
the
two
options
or
that
you
could,
you
know,
apply
the
first
within
the
second
as
the
backup
or
I
don't
know
if
people
have
feelings
on
that.
A
Well,
I
just
think
again,
I
think
what
we're
all
striving
for
here
is
enough
consistency
that
folks
aren't
going
to
feel
like
to
the
point
that
counselor,
you
know,
copper
made
something
is
not
fair
and
that
somebody
is
not
being
given
a
fair
shot
at
speaking,
but
if
the
person
has
spoken
once-
and
we
have
notice
of
that-
I
guess
that
covers
the
sense
of
opportunity.
Q
Problem
is
you
can't,
I
don't
think
you
can
say.
Has
everyone
spoken
who
I
can't
remember
how
you
just
phrased
it,
but
it
it's
it's
not
it's.
It's
not
whether
you've
said
everything
you
could
possibly
think
of
part
of
the
reason
for
for
doing.
That
is
that
there's
a
feeling
that
we're
not
advancing
the
conversation
anymore
and
it's
time
to
move
on.
H
Right
so
it
wouldn't
be
for
anyone
to
speak
a
second
time
it
would
be.
Has
anyone
not
spoken
to
this
issue?
Who
wishes
to
do
so,
and
then
we
could
do
it,
so
that
would
be
one
way
or
I
mean
it
does.
S
H
Q
I
don't
know
that
it
is
in
our
rules.
Okay,
for
some
reason,
I
thought
that
one
was
too
no,
I
think
it's
in
the
it's
in
robert's
rules,
because
I'm.
Q
Anyway,
I
I
not
to
I
think.
Basically,
it's
have
you
had
a
chance
to
speak
to
whatever
it
is,
whether
it's
the
amendment
or
the
bill.
If
you
haven't
spoken
once
then
you,
you
can
say
point
of
order
and
you
know
you
would
be
allowed
to
speak,
but
it's
not
have
you
said
everything
under
the
moon
that
you
would
like
to
say
on
this
thing.
Perhaps
not,
but
have
you
been
given
at
least
one
opportunity
to
speak
to
whatever
the
motion
is.
H
It
is
so
there's
closing
debate
on
page
10
when
a
debate
appears
to
be
closed.
Let's
see
okay
yeah.
So
there
is
a.
I
move,
the
previous
question
on
part
d
under
section
seven,
the
chair
shall
ask
the
council
members
if
they're
ready
for
the
question
a
counselor
may
remember.
H
So
that's
one
one
way
to
close
debate
and
then
a
council
member
may
move
to
close
debate
only
when
all
members
of
the
governing
body
have
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
on
the
pending
motion.
So
that's
that's
where
that
is
so.
It's
it's.
It's
described
in
the
context
of
an
opportunity,
but
you
could
provide
more
opportunity
if
they
hadn't
had
their
hand
raised.
So
has
anyone
not
spoken
on
the
matter?
Who
wishes
to
do
so?
A
I
have
one
one
or
two
other
items
I'll
try
to
move
to
really
quickly.
One
is
the
again
a
habit
that
I
think
I've
gotten
into,
and
I
need
advice
on
when
there
is
a
something
as
simple
as
approving
the
agenda,
I
will
say:
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
and
I
don't
wait
for
anyone
to
raise
their
hand.
I
will
often
just
hear
a
counselor
say
I
move
out
of
courtesy
in
an
attempt
to
move
rapidly.
A
H
Q
I
mean
to
the
extent
that
you
think
it's
it's
what's
leading
to
our
bad
habits
later
on
in
the
meeting.
Maybe
you
want
to
make
sure
we're
all
that
we
don't
speak
unless
recognized,
I
mean
we
could
be
really
rigid
about
this
and-
and
you
know,
that's
fine,
and
maybe
that
helps
us
get
in
get
in
the
you
know,
get
get
in
the
practice
so
that
we
don't
get
sloppy
as
we
move
around
as
we
move
along.
A
Well,
that
that
really
is
the
next,
the
final
and
last
question
I
have,
and-
and
actually
it's
not
a
question-
it's
also
an
invitation.
A
I
think,
for
example,
if
you
look
at
the
document
that
we
were
sent,
it
dates
back
to
2016,
introduced
by
counselor
dominguez,
and
it's
got
things
like
things
we
don't
do
in
the
evening
session.
We
don't
actually
repeat
the
pledge
of
allegiance
in
the
salute
to
the
flag
and
the
invocation
we
haven't
done
that
since
I
became
mayor,
maybe
maybe
previous
administrations
did
no
says
no,
I
mean
if
we,
I
guess
it
would
be
useful
to
take
this
home
and
see
whether
we
want
to
clean
up
our
own
rule.
These
are
our
rules.
A
These
are
nobody
else's.
This
is
not
something
that
the
city
attorney
has
forced
it
upon
us.
These
are
the
rules
that
we
have
had
adopted
and
they
are
subject
to
amendment
I'll.
Give
you
another
one
that
I
just
read.
For
the
first
time
I
I
didn't
realize
it
item
e
on
page
nine
rules
for
speakers
e
says
a
member
may
speak
more
than
once
to
the
same
motion.
Only
when
all
council
members
desiring
to
speak
have
been
heard,
we
I
haven't,
we
have
not.
I
have
not
tried
to
enforce
that.
A
I've
simply
looked
at
whether
people
as
we've
tried
today
to
look
at
the
hands
that
have
gone
up
and
people
will
put
their
hand
up
and
then
they'll
say
they'll
hear
something
and
they'll
want
to
come
back
and
respond
to
it
before
someone
else
has
had
their
chance
to
speak,
and
I
have
not,
up
till
now
tried
to
enforce
this
e
provision
and-
and
really
I,
I
think
the
point
of
the
rules
is
for
us
to
feel
as
counselor
veal
copler
said
that
we're
all
being
treated
fairly
and
that
there's
decorum
and
a
process
that
works
these
rules
were
given
to
us.
A
We
can
come
back
with
amendments
at
a
at
a
subsequent
conversation,
but
I
do
think
if,
if
we
want
to
follow
these
either
rigid,
no,
I
don't
want
to
use
the
word
rigidly
but
accurately
or
with
more
interpretive
opportunity.
That's
really
up
to
the
governing
body
to
attempt
to
create
the
culture
of
our
meetings.
Q
Mayor
another
one,
that's
sort
of
interesting
in
this
in
this
list
is
page
12
item
b,
explanation
of
a
vote,
any
member
of
the
governing
body
may
make
a
brief
statement
to
explain
his
or
her
her
vote
not
to
exceed
one
minute,
which
is
a
an
interesting.
I
didn't
realize.
There
was
a
length
of
time
which
a
counselor
was
limited.
A
Yeah
I
mean
this,
it's
really
important
to
become
more,
for
me
at
least
to
become
as
familiar
as
I
can.
I
know
I've
been
leaning
on
both
the
parliamentarian
and
the
city
attorney
as
guides
through
these
procedural
matters,
but
all
of
us
need
some
working
familiarity
and
if
things
aren't
working,
let's
flag
them
and
we
can
do
a
little
spring
cleaning
on
our
own
procedures.
H
Oh
thanks
mayor
thanks
for
pointing
those
out
we've
got
counselor,
I
thought
did
did
what
counselor
garcia
were
you
next
is
that
is
this
the
accurate
order?
Yep?
Okay?
I
thought
you
flipped
for
some
reason,
but.
Q
F
Sorry,
but
I
I
really
appreciate
this
conversation
and
and
that
we're
all
wanting
to
work
towards
uniformity
and
equity
and
and
getting
our
parliamentary
process
in
order
and
getting
our
rules
in
order.
You
know,
I
know,
we've
all
probably
had
our
separate
frustrating
points.
F
I
I
think
one
recommendation
is
get
a
book
of
robert's
rules
of
order.
I
mean
I've.
I've
had
to
pick
one
up
just
because
it's
I
think
it's
sometimes
led
to
that
frustration,
but
that's
where
I
guess
it.
My
question
comes
in
or
play
is:
should
we
have
questions?
Who
do
we
go
to?
Do
we
go
to
the
parliamentarian?
Do
we
go
to
you
erin,
because
I
know
that
what
might
have
led
to
frustration
that
we
saw
on
wednesday
is
we've,
we've
asked
for
clarification
and
we
didn't
necessarily
get
the
clarification.
F
We
we
we
maybe
sought
out,
and
I
think
that's.
Where
do
we
have
an
impartial
person
that
would
say
you
can
make
such
and
such
motion
or
these?
This
is
the
road
map
in
front
of
you.
These
are
your
options,
because
I
know
that
you
know
understanding
the
process
and
rules.
You
can
use
it
to
your
benefit
or
you
can
use
it
to
others
non-benefit
and
we,
I
think
we
need
to
have
somebody
at
least
giving
guidance
during
the
meeting
that
will
be
that
impartial
person.
H
Counselor,
ideally
that
is
both
the
parliamentarian
and
and
I
think
my
office,
so
I
think
we
should
both
be
able
to
do
that.
I
think
just
so.
Everyone
knows
counselor
romero
worth
and
I
are
doing
some
online
trainings
and
I'm
I'm
hoping
to
become
a
registered
or
certified
parliamentarian
to
add
that
to
my
list
of
abilities
but
and
then
maybe
take
that
even
farther.
H
Well,
I
looked
that
up
and
if
we
weren't
a
legislative
body,
it
would
be
ten
minutes,
but
it
that
says.
But
but
if
you're
a
legislator,
it
says
for
non-legislative
bodies.
The
default
is
10
minutes
or
something
like
that
or
a
legislative
body.
So
the
default
doesn't
apply
to
us,
and
so
it's
just
according
to
our
own
rules
and.
I
H
Don't
have
a
rule
on
it,
so
there
is
no
rule
on
that
subject
right,
but
that's
the
example
where
it's
like
well,
here's
one
rule,
but
then,
if
you're
this,
it's
this
other
rule
and
then
if
and
then,
if
you're,
a
legislative
body,
there's
no
rule
like
you
have
to
make
up
your
own
rule,
so
robert's
rule
only
goes
so
far,
sometimes
too
right
and
so
we'll
having
the
we
might
not
know
the
answer
at
the
tip
of
our
tongues
at
the
time.
F
Q
R
Q
He's,
I
think,
too,
for
sure
counselor
garcia.
We
will
be
answering
based
on
the
rules
that
we
have
and
and
now
we
all
understand
what
sources
we're
pulling
from
we're
pulling
from.
You
know
the
our
the
governing
body,
procedural
rules,
this
big
fat
book,
the
the
list
on
the
slide
that
aaron
started
with,
including
you
know,
ordinances,
statutes,
constitutional
requirements,
our
charter,
so
the
that's!
Q
Those
are
the
those
are
the
sources
for
the
answers
and
we
are
trying
to
be
more
versed
in
what
all
those
things
tell
us
and
how
they
guide
us
in
creating
a
process
for
debating
the
subjects
that
come
in
front
of
us.
F
Okay,
so
that
now
that
that's
definitely
good
to
know
that
way.
If
we
do
have
a
point
of
parliamentary
procedure,
we
can
refer
to
to
two
folks
on
the
the
governing
body
and
ask
for
guidance.
I
definitely
like
that.
The
rest
of
my
questions
were
asked
by
the
by
my
colleagues
so,
but
I
appreciate
this
conversation
and
thank
you
for
putting
the
materials
together.
I
appreciate
it.
H
O
Thank
you.
I
will
be
quick
because
we
are
already
over
just
to
confirm
so
when
there
is
a
sponsor,
they
will
be
the
one
to
move.
The
motion
but
they'll
be
moving
a
main
motion,
any
amendments,
even
if
they
are
amendments
that
the
sponsor
is
in
favor
of,
will
not
be
moved
with
those
that
main
motion,
and
we
will
take
those
amendments
up
one
at
a
time
and
have
to
vote
on
them
before
we
can
consider
another
one
correct,
okay,
great,
because.
O
H
O
H
O
And
then,
if
we,
I
guess
you
know
if
we
start
to
get
into
complications
on
amendments
and
we
decide
to
refer
back,
that's
just
referring
everything
back
to
a
committee.
I
think
that
would
make
sense
and
then,
if
there
is
not
a
sponsor,
so
if
it's
a
contract
or
the
agenda-
or
I
guess
the
one
piece
where
I
could
see
more
potential,
disagreement
among
the
governing
body
might
be
like
a
land
use
case
where
there
would
not
be
a
sponsor
and
it's
just
kind
of
whoever
gets
there
first.
H
Counselor,
yes,
I
think
that's
right,
so
quasi
judicial
has
a
even
third
set
of
procedures
right,
so
we've
got
the
public
hearing
procedures
that
that
start
on
page
10
in
our
rules
and
then
on
page
11.
It
talks
about
the
special
rules
for
quasi-judicial
proceedings
and
land
use
matters
actually
have
their
own
resolution
with
their
own
procedures,
which
we
did.
I
can
send
those
out,
but
they
are
very
specialized
and
that's
one
of
the
areas.
H
My
cat
is
very
persistent
right
now.
So
sorry,
I
should
probably
run
and
feed
him,
but
the
land
use
area
is
where
we
actually
have
a
lot
of
case
law.
We
have
to
look
at
too.
That's
that
gets
the
most
complicated
in
terms
of
constitutional
law
and
it's
because
property
rights
are
at
issue
right.
So
whenever
life,
liberty
or
property
is
at
issue
and
when
it's,
what
someone's,
actually
they
own
it's
their
own
property,
not
a
generalized
matter,
then
then
you
have
the
highest
level
of
protection
of
rights.
H
The
more
specific
something
gets
to
a
particular
individual's
life,
liberty
or
property.
So,
like
a
criminal
case
right,
that's
their
that
person's
life,
liberal
property,
the
rights
that
are
associated
with
that
go
up
as
well,
and
so
when
we
have
a
particular
person's
property.
That's
at
issue
the
same
thing
and
that's
why
it's
a
lot
more
regulated
compared
to
other
areas
that
we
get
involved
in.
O
Yeah,
if
you
could
send
those
out,
that
would
be
handy
search
website
and
then
did
I
have
another.
O
It's
not
coming
back
I'll
email
you
when
it
does,
but
that
was
all
thank
you
for
this
presentation.
I
think
it
was
really
helpful.
I
do
also
really
I
like
the
proposed
rule
for
making
the
motion.
I
think
that'll
help
things
a
lot
so
great
and.
H
Q
Say
I
was
just
gonna
say
we
can
write
that
out
and
adopt
it
as
part
of
our
procedural
rules.
H
Exactly
yes,
so
right
now
it
would
be.
Essentially
this
is
the
recommended
custom
that
we're
making
to
the
chairperson,
so
he
can
put
it
in
place.
So
he
has
the
control
to
do
that
right
now,
with
his
discretion
so
and
he
seems
to
be
in
agreement
with
it,
we
got
counselor
lindell.
I
believe.
N
Yeah,
I
just
was
going
to
suggest
that
you
go
feed
your
cat.
Actually,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
this
has
been
super
helpful
thanks.
I
think
we're
all
trying
to
pull
in
the
same
direction
and
get
it
done
and
sometimes
when
we're
doing
it
on
the
fly
in
meetings.
It
makes
it
really
really
hard,
but
this
is
going
to
help
a
lot
and
you
know
we.
We
have
you
working
on
this.
N
We
have
a
parliamentarian
and
I
think,
we're
headed
in
the
right
direction,
and
I
just
before
we
sign
off,
I
wanted
to
thank
you
very
much
and
I
also
appreciated
very
much
the
other
presentations
that
were
put
together
today.
It
was
all
excellently
done.
It
was
time
really
well
spent.
It
got
a
little
bit
long,
but
that's
what
we're
in
for-
and
you
know
it's
appreciated,
so
I'm
signing
off.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
any
other
last
for
the
good
of
the
order.
Anything
anybody
wants
to
bring
up
we're
about
15
minutes
over
budget,
but
it's
been
well
time
well
spent
the
next
order
of
business
on
the
agenda.
I
believe
madam
clerk
is
to
adjourn.
B
Yes,
it
absolutely
is
so
we
will
do
that
and
I
will
be
emailing
out
the
powerpoint
presentations
for
all
of
you
who
have,
and
I
think
just
moving
forward
any
feedback
or
if
you
would
like
additional
workshops
scheduled
we're
happy
to
do
that.
So,
if
an
item
comes
up
that
you
think
would
be
helpful,
please
let
me
know
so.
Thank
you
all
for
me.