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A
Let
me
call
the
meeting
right
now
live
on
youtube.
Let
me
call
the
meeting
to
order.
It's
403,
it's
a
special
meeting
of
the
governing
body,
25
20
21
4
p.m.
Let
me
begin
with
the
pledge
of
allegiance
led
by
councillor
cassie
sanchez
mexico
flag.
Well,
let's
see
councillor
veal
koppler.
Can
you
lead
us
in
that?
If,
at
this
time
we
don't
have
a
counselor
lindell
and
an
invocation
invocation
from
councillor
romero
worth
and
if
we
could
all
rise
to
participate?
That
would
be
great.
Thank
you.
B
D
Just
a
short
couple
of
things
I
want
to
reflect
on
the
honor
bestowed
upon
us
to
serve
the
community
as
the
elected
representatives
of
this
community,
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
I'm
thankful
we
can
come
together
to
this
afternoon
to
discuss
coming
together
in
person
and
I'd
just
like
to
take
a
moment
to
reflect
on
where
we
stand
and
the
importance
of
the
work
we
do.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
just
want
to
reflect
on
the
life
of
george
floyd
year
after
his
untimely
death
and
how
it
shaped
our
our
lives
and
how
we,
as
not
only
as
a
community
but
as
a
country,
continue
to
grow
from
that
horrible
horrible
incident
and
may
we
all
learn
and
grow
and
be
better
from
from
that,
and
so
I
just
want
to
remember
mr
floyd's
life.
A
Everybody
could
the
clerk,
please
call
the
role,
so
we
can
get
the
meeting
going.
E
G
H
A
C
A
Councilor
councilman
varial
has
moved
to
approve
the
agenda
and
counselor
veal
koppler.
Second,
could
you
call
the
role
on
the
motion?
Please.
E
I
A
Very
good,
thank
you.
That
brings
us
to
our
decision
and
action
items.
Madam
clerk,
can
you
introduce
us
to
the
items
a
and
b
that
we'll
be
taking
up.
F
Yes,
mayor.
The
first
item
is
a
presentation
and
discussion
of
in-person
meetings
of
the
governing
body
and
our
other
committees.
I
have
a
presentation
set
for
this,
but
I
believe
city
manager,
le
pan
hill
and
our
city
attorney
will
be
going
over
some
few.
A
few
items
before
the
presentation
starts
so:
city
manager,
le
pen,
hill.
I
Great
hi,
everyone.
Thank
you
for
joining
us.
I
know
this
is
a
big
meetings
week,
as
all
weeks
are,
but
given
all
of
the
all
of
the
changing
dynamics,
we
felt
it
was
really
important
to
get
together
as
as
a
governing
body
as
a
unit
to
discuss.
So
this
is
a
work
session
that
we
are
set
to
be
on
from
four
to
six.
We
will
end
at
six.
I
We
will
limit
our
discussion
to
the
time
allotted
if
we
need
to
have
additional
meetings
after
that
we
can,
but
we
will
limit
our
discussion
at
this
time
and,
as
the
agenda
reflects,
this
is
to
discuss
our
return
to
in-person
meetings
and
our
increasing
of
on-site
operations.
I
We
are
genuinely
looking
for
your
feedback,
as,
as
you
know,
as
we've
all
been
living,
we're
living
in
uncertain
times.
The
things
we
know
are
change,
and
so
we
there
is
no
right
answer
here.
We
need
to
continue
to
tweak
it
do
what's
right
for
our
employees
for
the
our
residents
for
for
yourselves,
and
so
the
intention
here
is,
we
are
not.
We
are
not
purdue,
we
have
not.
We
are
not
presenting
a
plan,
we're
going
to
lay
out
information
and
provide
a
framework
for
discussion.
I
So
again
we
really.
I
really
hope
we
can
talk
through
some
of
these
thorny
issues,
figure
out.
What's
going
to
work
for
for
us
at
this
time
and
know
that
it
continues
to
evolve
what
what
we
you
know
start
with
now
will
be
different
than
what
we
end
up
with
in
the
fall,
and
so
that's
that's
the
intention
here
tonight.
So
I
hope
we
can.
We
can
have
that
dialogue
and
discussion.
I
I'm
gonna
turn
it
now
to
aaron,
as
you
all
saw,
we
have
a
new
order
which
normally,
which
is
coming
before
the
governing
body
tomorrow
night
in
council,
for
a
vote,
but
we
there's
a
lot
of
information
in
there
that
will
impact
this
discussion,
so
we'll
turn
to
aaron
and
then
christine
will
start
on
the
in-person
meetings,
cool.
J
Thank
you,
city
manager,
le
pen
hill.
I
decided
to
start
with
my
headphones
today
because
my
audio
has
been
going
in
and
out
and
in
and
out
all
day
very
quickly.
So
there
was
a
new
proclamation
orders
issued
yesterday.
We've
been
trying
to
time
those
so
that,
if
we
need
to
extend,
we
do
not
have
to
have
a
special
governing
body
for
meeting
for
that
purpose.
So
this
one
was
timed
to
end
on
monday,
so
that
we
could
consider
whether
to
extend
it
on
wednesday.
J
J
That's
why
there's
an
unusual
number
of
days
in
that
resolution,
the
updated
order
as
to
jarrell's
point
in
terms
of
things
changing
quickly.
Our
last
proclamation
and
orders
had
been
really
emphasizing
the
scarcity
of
vaccines
back
in
march
and
now
we're
in
a
place
where
we're
just
really
trying
to
get
vaccines
out
and
they
are
readily
available.
J
So
we're
really
hoping,
apparently,
the
the
rent
renthelpnewmexico.org
has
a
lot
of
funds
available
for
both
utilities
and
eviction
protection.
So
our
eviction
prevention
and
rent
payments,
so
we're
really
encouraging
people
to
use
those.
J
J
Members,
I
think,
someone's
popping
in
on
their
audio,
if
someone's
not
on
mute,
I'm
not
sure
who
it
is
so,
in
addition
to
the
public
being
required
to
wear
facial
coverings
in
city,
buildings,
city,
employees
and
city
agents
would
also
be
required
to
wear
facial
coverings
that
are
required
to
wear
facial
coverings
when
they
are
in
those
public
spaces
with
members
of
the
public
and
providing
services
to
the
public.
J
If
they,
if
city
employees,
agents
contractors
committee
members
are
in
places
that
are
not
accessible
to
the
public,
the
order
provides
that
they
should
rely
on
vaccination
status,
and
so
it
reverts
to
the
state
level
rule
which
is
if
you're
vaccinated.
Then
you
have
the
ability
to
not
wear
a
facial
covering
if
you
wish,
but
you
certainly
can
still
wear
one
and
that
if
you
are
unvaccinated
that
you
are
required
to
wear
a
facial
covering
unless
you're
in
your
own
personal,
enclosed
space
that
doesn't
impact
others.
J
So
that's
the
framework
that's
in
place
in
the
new
order,
and
then
it
encourages
testing
when
folks
are
unvested
at
vaccinated
and
are
exposed.
It
updated
our
screening
questionnaire
for
the
public
so
that,
if
someone's
exposed,
they
only
are
restricted
from
entrance
if
they
are
unvaccinated
as
well.
If
they're
vaccinated
and
exposed
we're
not
prohibiting
entry,
so
that
we've
changed
those
criteria
a
little
bit
such
that
we
recognize
the
likelihood
of
contracting
the
virus
once
vaccinated
is
very
low,
and
I
think
I
think
that's.
J
Those
are
the
big
the
big
points
in
the
order.
I
did
want
to
also
just
refresh
people's
memory
as
to
the
applicable
parts
of
our
emergency
ordinance
that
we
adopted
very
early
on
in
the
pandemic,
as
it
related
to
being
able,
whether
when
we
had
to
be
present
for
meetings
or
at
least
pursuant
to
open
meetings,
act
for
the
for
the
governing
body
and
committee
subject
to
the
open
meetings
act.
J
The
open
meetings
act
itself
says,
if
otherwise
allowed
by
rule
or
law
of
a
public
pot
of
the
public
body.
A
member
of
the
public
body
may
participate
in
a
meeting
of
the
public
body
by
means
of
a
conference,
telephone
or
other
similar
communications,
which
is
what
we've
been
doing
when
it
is
otherwise
difficult
or
impossible.
For
the
member
to
attend
the
meeting
in
person,
and
so
using
that
framework,
our
code
says
during
a
declared
emergency
if
it
is
difficult
or
impossible
for
a
governing
body
member
to
attend
a
meeting
in
person.
J
The
member
may
participate
in
meetings
by
conference,
call
or
other
similar
communications
equipment
as
permitted
in
the
open
meetings
act
essentially
and
then
so
we
did
something
very
similar
for
our
city,
council,
standing
committees
and
other
committees,
and
we
also,
we
said
basically
the
same
thing
during
a
declared
emergency
members
may
participate
remotely
as
permitted
in
the
open
meetings
act
when
it's
difficult
or
impossible.
F
Hi
mayor,
I
can
go
ahead
and
start
the
presentation
of
joe.
If
you
will
bring
up
the
powerpoint,
then
we
can
start
to
roll
through
this
again,
I
think,
as
city
manager,
le
pen
hill
laid
out,
I'm
just
gonna
walk
through
kind
of
where
we
are
and
options
and
then
there's
an
opportunity
for
discussion.
So
I'll
move
through
the
first
few
slides
fairly
quickly.
Aaron
gave
a
pretty
good
overview,
joe
if
you
could
just
queue
up
that
first
slide.
This,
basically,
is
the
quick
history.
F
Obviously
we're
currently
required
to
follow
the
open
meetings
act
as
aaron
mentioned,
unless
it's
difficult
or
impossible
to
be
present,
there's
just
a
little
bit
of
history
when
we
started
that
which
was
march
11th
joe.
F
If
you'll
go
to
the
next
line
on
there,
the
state
and
local
laws
that
basically
govern
us
again,
just
noted
as
background
information
and
then
the
next
slide
is
really
where
we
start
to
we're
all
kind
of
lay
foundation
for
the
discussion
we're
having
today
so
right
now,
as
all
committees
are
categorized,
all
the
counselors
received
these
categories
when
we
first
switched
to
them
when
the
moratorium
was
lifted.
So
right
now
we
have
categories
one
through
five.
The
first
is
governing
body
category
two
includes
our
council
committees.
F
Of
course,
our
quasi-judicial
and
policy
making
committees.
Category
three
are
our
advisory
committees.
Category
four
is
joint
powers,
boards
and
committees,
and
then
category
five
is
our
working
groups.
These
are
currently
not
subject
to
open
meetings
act.
I
just
want
to
note
that
and
then
joe,
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
I
just
list.
This
is
the
excel
spreadsheet
that
you
all
already
have,
but
just
wanted
to
do
a
quick
overview
that
kind
of
gives
you
an
idea
of
who
is
in
what
categories.
F
So
moving
on
pre-pandemic
governing
body
was
the
only
meeting
that
was
broadcast
on
youtube.
The
radio
and
government
tv.
No
other
meetings
were
broadcast
on
youtube.
The
public
could
attend
meetings
in
person
and,
of
course
these
were.
This
was
done
under
contractors
through
the
direction
of
the
multimedia
manager.
So
that's
just
kind
of
giving
you
a
where
we
were
what
we
have
now
joe
if
you'll
yep
there
you
go,
is
we're
obviously
right
now
we're
100
online
using
zoom,
and
we
have
no
in-person
meetings
category.
F
We
have
no
contract
staff
at
this
time
really
our
multimedia
manager,
land
use
planning
manager
and
myself
have
been
running
meetings
and
then,
at
the
end
of
march
of
2021
committee
liaisons
for
category
three
and
four
and
five
when
applicable,
started
hosting
their
own
meetings.
So
just
kind
of
want
to
note
those
and
then
moving
on
joe.
I
want
to
give
some
quick
background
kind
of
where
we
were
2020
versus
2021
for
viewership.
F
These
are
stats,
so,
as
you
can
see
in
2020
on
youtube,
we
had
78
000
views,
634,
000
impressions
and
944
new
subscribers
and
20.
That
was
for
the
entirety
of
2020
and
then
in
2021
to
date
we
have
so
far
we're
at
almost
30
000
views.
We
might
actually
break
that
for
today's
meeting,
we'll
hit
30,
000
and
then
273
thousand
impressions,
and
so
far
we
have
103
new
subscribers.
F
I
also
want
to
note
that
we
added
a
second
youtube
channel
to
accommodate
our
online
hosting,
which
includes
which
is
designated
for
our
land
use
meetings.
F
So
I
felt
it
was
really
important
to
include
those
so
in
2020,
of
course,
we
had
1700
views
on
our
land
use
meetings
and
then
this
year
so
far
we
have
1600
with
the
13
000
impressions,
but
we
did,
of
course,
to
accommodate
our
online
presence
and
the
use
of
our
youtube
channel.
We
did
have
to
add
a
second
youtube
channel
last
year
when
we
went
to
virtual,
so
the
next
slide
is
really
the
basis
for
our
discussion.
There's
basically
four
options.
F
I
do
want
to
note
that,
under
all
options,
the
meetings
will
be
broadcast
on
youtube,
radio
and,
of
course,
our
government
tv.
This
first
slide
is
specific
for
governing
body
meetings,
and
then
there
will
be
additional
slides
where
we
go
over
category
two
and
then
category
three,
four
and
five,
but
focusing
on
this
slide
option.
One
is
basically
where
the
governing
body,
which
would
also
include
the
city
manager,
city
attorney
and
city
clerk,
would
be
in
person.
F
These
meetings,
as
I
mentioned,
would
still
be
streamed,
live
on
youtube,
ksfr
and
comcast
channel
28,
and
I
just
want
to
note
that
right
now
the
city
of
rio,
rancho
and
santa
fe
county
are
using
this
model,
so
this
is
again
governing
body
in
person
and
then
public
and
staff
attending
virtually
option,
two
that
we
would
present
and,
of
course,
these
are
all
for
discussion-
is
that
the
governing
body
and
again
city
manager,
city
attorney
and
city
clerk
would
be
in
person.
Staff
could
attend.
Meetings
in
person.
F
Public
would
be
virtual
in
this
option.
Staff
would
not
be
required
to
wear
mask
if
they're,
vaccinated
and
again
meetings
would
still
be
streamed
in
a
variety
of
our
channels.
For
the
public
to
watch
option
three
would
be
a
governing
body
would
be
in
person.
The
public
and
staff
could
attend
meetings
in
person
or
virtual.
F
In
this
case,
we
would
have
the
mask
requirement
and
again,
meetings
would
still
be
streamed
and
then
option.
Four
would
just
be
that
everyone
would
go
back
to
be
in
person
and
then
we'd,
wear,
masks
and
again
still
be
streamed
on
all
avenues.
So
I
think
this
is
probably
a
great
stopping
point
for
the
first
round
of
discussion
and
I
stand
for
any
questions
at
this
time.
Kind
of
with
these
not.
A
Thank
you
so
this
is.
This
is
a
wide-ranging
opportunity
to
discuss
the
options
and
state
preferences
or
ask
questions
about
how
the
differences
would
stack
up.
If
I
don't
have
access
to,
because
we're
screen
sharing
it's
a
little
hard
for
me
to
see
whose
hands
are
raised.
I
guess
counselor,
garcia
and
counselor
cassette.
You
both
have
your
hands
up.
Forgive
me.
If
I
don't
see
you
right
away
because
it's
a
oh
there,
we
go
all
right
now,
it's
easier,
so
we'll
start
with
counselor
garcia
and
you
have
the.
E
Floor,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you
christine
for
the
presentation
what
preparations
have
been
made
with
the
chambers.
I
know
that
you
know
if
you
go
into
any
business
across
our
country
right
now,
there's
plexi-class
dividers
between
people,
and
so
that's
one
update
that
hasn't
been
given
to
us.
So
what
up?
What
updates
or
preventative
measures
have
been
implemented
within
the
council
chambers.
F
Council,
garcia
mayor
councillor,
garcia
governing
body
right
now.
What
we've
worked
on
implementing
is
specific
to
technology,
because
the
because
the
counselors
are
already
a
distance
from
the
city
attorney
city
manager,
I
guess
in
city
clerk
where
they
stand,
I'm
also
kind
of
laughing,
because
you're
technically
in
the
chambers.
With
your
view
behind
you,
sorry
and
then
we
have
the
public,
so
we
would
do
the
six
feet
separations
if
that
was
an
option
again
based
off
of
what
we
figured
today.
F
If
governing
body
does
go
with
the
option
of
having
public
or
staff
back
in
the
chambers,
we
can
add
plexiglass,
I
believe,
to
the
to
the
area
where
the
governing
body
is,
but
we
really
focused
on
the
technology
aspect.
So
we
have
added
the
big
screen
tv
and
the
technology
that
would
allow
us
to
have
dual
participation
so
where
we
could
have
zoom
participation
as
well
as
in-person
pers
participation
and
everybody
could
actually
hear
each
other
and
talk
to
each
other
and
so
forth.
E
I
I
guess
my
follow-up
to
that
is:
is
there
a
reason
why
we
didn't
utilize
some
of
our
karzak
funding
to
implement
such
preventative
measures
on
the
dais
and
where
the
city
attorneys,
as
city
manager,
sit
and
where
the
podium
is
where
the
public
speak?
I
know
that
it'd
be
a
bit
more
challenging
for
the
audience,
but
I
think
that
that
to
me,
why
didn't
we
implement
those
measures
when
we
had
the
resources
to
do
so.
F
Did
you
want
me
to
address
sorry
mayor
councillor
garcia,
did
you
want
me
to.
E
I
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
councillor,
garcia.
I
don't
have
a
a
good
answer.
I
think
we
can.
We
can
put
plexiglas
in
the
chambers,
the
the
funds
were.
We
we
director
wheeler.
I
don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
jump
in.
We
used
a
lot
of
funds
to
prepare
city
facilities
and
where
we
had
people
working
in
the
in
the
time,
but
director
wheeler,
I
don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
jump
in
there
with.
L
I
would
thank
you
so
much
city
manager,
mayor
and
counselor
garcia
for
your
question.
Actually,
there
has
been
a
bit
of
work
done
in
city
hall.
There
have
been
some
air
exchangers
put
in
there
medical
grade
air
filters,
which
are
a
great
enhancement,
and
I
I
really
think
the
best
way
to
go
here
is
once
the
governing
body
decides
what
model
they'd
like
to
adopt.
Then
we
should
respond
with
a
review
of
what
the
engineering
controls
would
be
to
keep
people
safe
in
that
model.
L
I
think
that's
part
of
the
reason
we
didn't
make
a
lot
of
changes
there,
because
we
didn't
know
what
configuration
it
would
be
used
in
next,
so
no
need
to
make
unnecessary
and
unhelpful
investment,
but
I
think
that's
a
great
point:
councilor
garcia.
Thank
you
will
definitely
follow
up
this
decision
making
with
the
governing
body
with
a
review
of
engineering
controls
that
we
should
implement
there.
E
Okay,
thank
you
for
the
clarification
because-
and
the
reason
I
ask
is
because
I
think
that
might
be
a
determining
factor
and
what
what
option
we
present.
I
think
the
comfort
level
for
for
folks
is
differing,
whether
folks
have
got
vaccinated
or
not,
and
I
think
that's
something.
We've
got
to
also
be
cautious
and
careful
of
regarding
privacy
rights
and
regarding
medical
privacy
rights,
but-
and
so
I
think
we
we
better
start
thinking
about
that
like
today.
What
are
we
going
to
do?
If
are
we
going
to
implement
plexiglas?
E
Are
we
going
to
move
everybody
into
the
convention
center
as
I've
recommended
before
that
way,
there
can
be
appropriate
spacing,
and
I
don't
think
that
was
part
of
any
of
the
options.
I
think
all
the
options
presented
were
for
the
the
chambers.
Am
I
correct?
We
don't
there's
not
an
option
to
host
meetings
in
the
convention
center
with
appropriate
spacing
planned,
so
I
would
like
definitely
like
to
explore
that
opportunity
as
well,
given
that
we
do
have
that
space
with
that.
No
no
other
questions
at
the
moment.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor.
Thank
you
for
for
your
presentation
christine
for
option.
Two
is
that
that
staff
has
the
option
to
come
in,
but
they
don't
necessarily
have
to
so
they
could
either
zoom
in
or
they
could
come
in
person
based
on
their
preference.
F
Mayor
city,
councillor,
kesley
sanchez:
yes,
that
is
correct.
They
would
have
the
option
if
they
would
like
to
stay
on
zoom,
but
they
could
be
in
person,
and
that
would
be
again
a
preference
of
the
governing
body,
and
one
of
the
items
that
we're
discussing
today
is
if
they
would
like
stop
in
person
if
they
would
like
stop
to
have
the
option
or
remain
virtual.
B
Do
we
have
a
sense
of
where
especially
staff,
that
frequently
present,
which
are
primarily
here
the
directors?
Do
we
have
a
sense
of
what
that
preference
looks
like
for
them.
I
Mr
mayor
councillor
cassette,
we
have
an
informal
sense
that
the
zoom,
the
zoom
option,
is
very
much
appreciated
by
staff
oftentimes
they're
there
for
a
small
portion
or
a
section
of
it,
and
especially
those
that
end
up
later
on
in
an
agenda
they're
able
to
to
you
know,
do
other
things
and
then
be
available
for
their
portion.
So
when
asked
about
that
level
of
flexibility,
that
is
an
appreciated
opportunity
to
be
able
to
maintain
that
the
zoom
option
for
meetings.
B
I
Okay,
not
from
my
informal
conversations,
but
that
is
again
informal
conversations.
B
Okay,
wonderful,
I
mean,
and
just
in
general,
I
know
that
we
are
we're
looking
at
what
the
level
is,
but
I
think
keeping
that
zoom
option,
even
as
we
continue
to
move
past
this
stage
of
the
pandemic,
even
as
things
start
to
improve
even
further
and
more
restrictions
are
lifted.
B
I
think
that
is
helpful
for
us
to
continue
to
explore
that
both
for
the
members
of
the
public
and
staff,
just
for
the
exact
reason
that
you
stated
jerrell
that
sometimes
people
have
to
wait
till
10
o'clock
at
night
to
present,
so
it's
nice,
if
we're
not
holding
holding
them
in
council
chambers
that
entire
time.
K
B
I
do
have
a
concern
about
what
that
could
potentially
do
could
to
community
spread
at
this
point,
while
we
do
still
have,
we
still
have
community
spread
of
covid
in
our
in
the
city,
so
I
think
that's
something
else
that
we
need
to
think
about
of
where
our
numbers
are.
Our
vaccination
rates
are
slowing,
still
increasing,
but
I
think
our
what
was
our
seven
day
rolling
average
last
week
it
went
up
from
the
previous
seven
days,
so
that's
still
something
that
I
do
have
some
concern
about.
B
I
I
think
many
of
us
on
the
governing
body
have
expressed
an
interest
to
get
ourselves
back
in
person,
but
I'm
not
sure
at
this
time
that
it
would
be
responsible
of
us
to
be
opening
it
up
to
the
wider
public
right
now,
considering
that
that
community
spread
is
still
there
and
that
we
do
have
another
option
with
that
being
said,
you
know
as
as
soon
as
we
can,
it
would
be
wonderful
to
get
people
back
in.
G
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
city
manager,
le
pen
hill.
Can
you
talk
about
the
constraints
of
using
the
convention
center
under
option?
One.
F
Thank
you
mayor,
councillor,
rivera
and
actually
councilor
garcia,
because
he
noted
this
earlier.
We
do.
One
of
the
reasons
we
focus
specifically
on
staying
in
the
chambers
is
our
tv
channel
is
tied
directly
to
the
chambers,
as
well
as
our
radio,
so
for
us
to
move
to
the
convention
center
we'd
be
taking
on
we'd,
actually
have
to
hire
a
crew.
F
We'd
have
to
have
different
camera
operations,
we'd
have
to
have
different,
sound
technology
implemented,
and
we
would
basically
have
to
have
you
know
an
entire
operation
for
that
option.
So
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
we
focused
on
staying
in
the
chambers.
Basically,
it
was
just
the
expense,
the
number
of
individuals
that
would
require
that,
and
then
the
technology
to
make
that
work,
I
is,
is
basically
to
be
financially
and
fiscally
responsible.
F
On
my
end,
I
only
stayed
with
the
option
of
meeting
in
the
chambers
because
of
the
technology
restrictions
that
we
would
have
in.
We
also
are
tied
through
our
through
our
own
requirements
for
the
tv.
That
is
something
that
we
post
on
all
of
our
agendas.
So,
if
that's
an
option
that
the
governing
body
would
like
me
to
pursue,
then
we
would
likely
have
to
modify
our
requirements.
G
All
right,
if
we
did
decide
to
stay
in
council
chambers,
city
manager,
le
pen
hill,
any
thought
into
maybe
only
having
half
the
governing
body
there
at
one
time
so
that
we
have
the
ability
to
at
least
have
a
seat
between
us
or
potentially
putting
seats
below
the
dice.
So
that
counselors
could
have
a
table
and
chair.
And
we
could
be
a
little
more
spread
out
ourselves.
I
I
You
know
the
three,
the
three
chairs
for
the
city
manager,
city
city
clerk,
those
could
be
used
as
counselor
spots
and
then
you
know
we
could
sit
in
chairs,
so
that
is
certainly
an
option
where
we
run
into
a
little
bit
of
again
nothing's
insert
well,
some
things
are
impactable,
but
we,
you
know
there
are
some
camera
angles
and
again,
if
you're,
trying
to
what
you're
trying
to
capture
and
who
needs
to
be
on
a
microphone.
I
All
of
that
becomes
a
little
bit
complicated,
but
we
can
certainly
think
about
a
way
to
spread
out.
I
don't
know
the
answer.
If
we
said
you
know
four
counselors,
if
we
had
like
team
a
and
b
four
counselors
showed
up
and
four
were
on
zoom,
I
just
don't
know
how
that
would
work
in
terms
of
a
flow
of
a
meeting
that
feels
and
christine.
Maybe
you
can
answer
on
the
technical
side
about
how
you
would
manic
how
that
would
get.
I.
F
J
Mayor
give
I
I
well,
I
think
it
could
they
might
be
interrelated,
because
I
guess
it
depends
on
what
we
decide
is
safe.
So
if
we
were
to
decide
it's
only
safe
for
four
people
to
be
there
for
some
reason,
then,
and
we
could
assign
somehow
for
people
that
aren't
able
to
be
there,
because
it's
difficult
or
impossible
for
those,
because
the
analysis
is
really
specific
to
the
person
difficult
or
impossible
for
that
member
to
be
at
the
meeting.
J
So
if
we
were
to
decide
that
only
four
members
could
attend,
then
it
would
be
difficult
or
impossible
for
the
other
members
to
attend
so
that
we
would
have
to
make
some
sort
of
analysis
that
it's
unsafe
or
or
impracticable,
given
the
technology
constraints
for
all
the
governing
body
members
to
be
present
and
and
then
we
could
create
some
sort
of
structure
like
that.
G
All
right
is
there
a
way
to
spread
us
out
even
more,
I
mean
if
we're
not
gonna,
allow
the
public
and
we'll
have
access
to
the
entire
building.
Have
we
looked
at
it?
G
F
Councillor
rivera
yes,
depending
on
the
options,
I
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
like
to
note
is,
depending
on
the
options
that
we
go
with,
that
will
also
dictate
the
layout
of
the
room
in
the
governing
body
chambers.
So
again,
if
we,
if
option
four,
was
selected
where
everyone
was
going
to
be
in
person,
then
there
would
be
a
different
layout
if
option
one
is
selected
where
it
would
be
only
governing
body
and
again
the
city
manager,
city,
clerk
and
city
attorney
in
the
room.
F
Then
we
absolutely
have
a
different
layout
for
what
that
would
look
like,
so
we've
walked
through
what
those
are,
but
a
little.
It
is
based
a
little
bit
on
also
what
option
the
governing
body
selects
today.
H
H
I
think
what
it
depends
on
for
me
is
like
our
vaccinations
within
the
council,
and
I
don't
know
that
answer,
but
I'd
feel
more
comfortable
knowing
that
and
then
that
would
help
me
make
a
determination
about
my
level
of
comfortable
feeling,
comfortable
and
also
you
know,
protecting
my
colleagues.
So
that's
something
that
I
don't
think
we
need
to
like
express
here,
but
it
would
help
me
to
make
a
better
decision
and
then
plexiglas
to
me.
H
I'm
not
convinced
that
really
helps,
especially
for
like
one
foot
apart
from
each
other,
so
I
think
we
just
have
to
utilize
the
room
fully
somehow,
but
again
that
camera
situation.
I
didn't
think
about
earlier.
H
So
I
I
guess
I
would
like
to
know
more.
If
you
I
know
you
have
anecdotal
information,
but
if
you
could
talk
to
more
staff
to
really
get
a
sense
of
how
they're
feeling
about
it,
because
I
I
do
like
that
option
too,
that
they
have
the
opportunity
to
come
in.
If
and
if
not.
So
I
just
want
to
express
that
that
that's
important
and
then
all
I
can
think
about
is
like
sanitation
for
that
room
in
general.
H
H
I
know
this
is
a
crazy
thought,
but
I
was
just
thinking
santa
fe
county
has
a
new
chamber,
don't
they
and
they
have
meetings
in
different
days
than
us,
and
I
have
never
seen
I
haven't
seen
their
new
chamber.
I
don't
know
what
it
looks
like.
I
don't
know
what
the
adaptability
but
have
you
thought
about
that
we
could
possibly
share
that
space
since
it's
new
and
it's
equipped
with
the
technology,
and
it's
I
think
it's
a-
I
haven't,
seen
it,
but
I'm
assuming
it's
a
lot
bigger
than
our
space.
I
Mr
mayor
counselor
counselor
via
real
yes,
so
they
actually
they're
starting.
They
are
having
their
first
in-person
meeting
today
they
have
their
their
elected
officials,
are
meeting
in
person
and
they
are
doing
the
public
and
staff
on
zoom.
So
that's
how
they've
chosen
to
move
forward.
They
do
meet
on
tuesday,
so
it
is
a
different
day,
but
we
have
the
same
tv
channel
and
radio
channel
problem.
So
anytime
we
move,
we
lose
our
ability
to
do
tv
or
radio
through
streaming,
which
is
has
been
our
you
know.
I
Prior
to
zoom,
life
was
our
main
source
of
getting
to
our
to
our
residence,
so
that
becomes
then
a
different
lift
with
you
know
a
production,
crew
or
whatever
it
is
so
christine
did
you
want
to
jump
in
on
any
you
also.
You
are
familiar
with
the
space.
F
Yeah,
I
do
just
want
to
know
sorry
see
that
android
handheld
counselor
woman
via
royale
that
they
had
previously
been
meeting
in
a
smaller
room
than
the
one
we're
meeting
in
because
they
were
meeting
in
the
new
county
admin
building,
I'm
not
sure
if
they
were
able
to
get
their
technology
up
and
going
in
the
renovated
olds
commission
chambers,
if
they
were,
which
I
know
they
were
working
towards
today.
F
We
could
possibly
talk
about
meeting
in
in
that
building
and
using
their
technology
to
stream,
but
they
previously
had
been
meeting
in
the
new
building,
which
is
actually
smaller,
much
smaller
than
the
room
that
we're
in
or
when
they
weren't
on
zoom.
I'm
sorry
this
is
all
pre-pandemic
and
so
forth.
But
if
you're
specifically
interested
in
meeting
in
the
county
commission
chambers,
we
would
just
have
to
verify
that
their
technology
was
put
in
place
because
they
had
been
working
to
get
that
done.
H
Yeah,
I
didn't
know
the
text,
aspects
and
modifications
that
are
needed.
I
just
thought
we
because
they're
actually
physically
there,
but
again
I
I
think
joe
or
someone
would
have
to
weigh
in
about
that.
Can
you
just
get
back
to
us
about
that?
I
and
I'm
curious
how
they're
working
it
out.
Are
they
wearing
masks
or
what
do
they.
F
Again,
they're
doing
option
one,
so
it's
only
the
it's.
Only
the
commission,
the
five
members
of
the
of
the
commission
that
are
meeting
they're
about
half
the
size
as
well
and
then
staff
is
gonna,
be
virtual.
The
city
of
rio,
rancho,
is
using
the
same
model.
Their
their
council
was
not
wearing
masks
during
their
meetings,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
because
of
vaccination
or
not,
I
didn't
actually
inquire
about
who's
vaccinated
or
not
due
to
him.
H
Okay,
good
to
know,
I
think
I
don't
really
have
any
other
questions.
I
just
there's
some
unknowns.
I'd
still
like
to
know
about
before
I
just
I
have
a
like
a
complete
sense
of
of
how
this
could
function.
So
can
you
also
send
us
the
those
options
that
you
presented
to
us
right
now
via
email?
A
Thank
you
councillor,
bill
koppler.
You
have
before.
C
Thank
you
with
regard
to
the
document
that
we
have
today,
it
would
be
also
good
to
load
it
onto
primegov
so
that
the
public
can
see
it
as
well.
I
think
they
probably
have
a
vested
interest
in
what
we
are
discussing
and
what
we're
doing,
even
if
they
go
to
it
after
the
fact.
C
My
my
personal
opinion
is,
I
think
it
would
behoove
us
to
get
back
to
in-person
meetings
as
soon
as
practically
practicably
possible.
C
I
I
think
I
don't
know
it
seems
like
we
should
be
concerned
with
avoiding
the
perception
that
we
don't
want
to
come
back
to
public
and
surely
I
know
that
that
we
can
and
could
have
been
a
little
bit
more
prepared
and
we
still
can
be
and
go
on
the
track.
C
Okay,
and
so
that
that
is
my
preference
that
we
get
back
as
soon
as
possible.
I
also
want
to
ask
about
disclosure
requirements.
As
public
officials,
it
seems
like
we
should
disclose
whether
we're
fully
vaccinated
or
not,
and
that
may
make
a
difference
about
how
we
set
up
in
the
council
chambers,
I'm
fully
vaccinated
I'll,
just
say
that
so
you
all
know,
but.
C
I
don't
know
it
was
discussed
earlier
about
how
we
could
configure
the
chambers,
so
it
seems
to
me
that
you
know
we
could
have
people
on
the
diese
and
then
a
specific
amount
of
a
number
of
counselors
below
directly
below
socially
distanced,
and
I
don't
know
why
the
camera
wouldn't
be
able
to
pick
that
up.
Now.
C
Maybe
you
know
I
I
know
there's
an
awful
lot
of
cord
under
my
desk
that
maybe
that
microphones
could
reach
down
to
a
table
right
below,
but
maybe
that
should
be
examined
and
if
it's
a
matter
of
plugging
a
longer
cord
in
that
should
also
be
studied.
So
it
seems
like.
Maybe
that
would
be
the
first
opportunity
to
examine
something
that
would
work
to
have
maybe
five
and
four
you
know
and
and
and
then
to
be
fair
depending
on
how
long
this
goes
on,
then
maybe
we
switch.
C
You
know,
because
I
don't
want
to
be
the
one
stuck
on
the
bottom
all
the
time
so
and
then,
with
regard
to
you
know,
maybe
some
counselors
could
call
in
or
not
I
kind
of
heard
that
maybe
that
wouldn't
work,
but
even
if
it
did,
I
think
we
should
rotate.
You
know
so.
So
that
brings
me
to
the
next
point,
and
that
is
when
we
discuss
employees
having
you
know
a
choice
to
stay
home
or
not.
C
I
think
that's
one
of
the
most
important
that
concerns
me
is
that
we
find
a
way
to
maybe
have
get
the
employees
input,
because
you
know
there
is
an
equity
issue
and-
and
it's
not
necessarily
pay
at
all.
I
mean
there
is
that,
but
it's
not
what
I'm
talking
about
I'm
talking
about,
who
gets
to
make
that
decision
and
and
why
and
is
it
reasonable?
C
So
that's
really
important
to
me.
The
next
item
is
I've
been
hearing
a
lot
of
attorney
opinions
about
whether
we
can
ask
if
someone's
vaccinated,
even
whether
we
can
say
you
get
vaccinated
or
you
don't
work
here
that
just
came
up
in
a
meeting
I
was
in
yesterday
evening,
so
I
realize
we're
a
public
agency,
so
there
may
be
some
difference
there,
but
there
there
also
has
been
some
opinions
expressed
by
attorneys
who
are
in
the
public
realm.
So
I'm
not
I'm
not.
C
I
think
we
need
to
do
more
research
on
that
and
talk
to
differing
people
who
actually
work
in
in
our
public
service
arena,
but
I'll
just
reiterate,
I
think
we
should
get
back
to
the
chambers
as
soon
as
possible.
C
I
think
we
should
find
a
way
to
work
that,
and
I
do
think
we
should
explore
more
about
what
it
would
cost
to
have
our
meetings
in
the
chamber
I
mean
in
the
convention
center.
I
think
that's
something
that
I'd
like
to
see.
C
What
are
we
really
talking
about
and
and
if
it's
not
that
much,
I
think
it's
a
public
service
that
we
have
to
complete
as
as
public
officials
and
do
the
do
the
public's
work
and
and
be
able
to
have
maybe
a
social,
socially
distanced
seating
chart
of
some
sort.
Now
I
know
you
all,
I
know
I
do
I've
gone
out
to
some
establishments,
some
some
meetings,
I've
gone
to
various
places.
C
Now
that
we've
gotten
to
be
a
little
bit
freer
to
roam
the
city,
and
you
know
other
businesses
are
making
do
with
following
the
guidelines
that
that
the
state
is
is
in
now
you
know
movie
theaters
basketball
games,
all
of
those
things
are
going
on
around
us
and
if
they
can
figure
it
out,
then
I
think
we
can
too.
C
So
certainly
I
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
I
can
make
a
decision
tonight,
because
we
don't,
he
really
have
the
information
that
we
need,
but
my
preference
is
to
get
back
to
doing
the
business
in
a
public
setting
as
soon
as
possible.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
mayor
everybody.
I've
talked
to,
I
I
think,
wants
to
come
back,
so
I
I
don't
think
there's
that
issue.
I
think
we
all
feel
like
we
would
benefit
from
being
in
person.
I
think
what
we're
talking
about
tonight
is
how
we
do
that
in
a
way
in
a
safe
way
in
and
in
a
way
where
we're
all
comfortable
with.
D
What's
what
the
situation
is,
and
I
I
will
say,
as
an
elected
official
and
I
want
the
public
to
know
this-
I
am
vaccinated
and
I
encourage
everyone
to
go
out
and
get
vaccinated.
Please
do
it.
I
think
it
is
so
important
for
us
to
encourage
people
to
be
vaccinated.
It's
what's
going
to
make
the
difference
in
terms
of
us
being
able
to
return
to
normalcy
and
to
feel
safe
and
to
move
out
of
this
pandemic.
D
So
please
people
go
out
and
get
vaccinated,
their
the
the
vaccines
are
are
readily
available,
and
I
I
just
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
encourage
people
to
do
it.
I've
done
it,
it's
not
hard
and
it's
it's
really
important,
but
I
would
agree
with
councilwoman
via
real
that
I
think
that
is
kind
of
the
rub
here
right,
so,
if
we're
all
vaccinated
being
next
to
each
other
on
the
dice
shouldn't
be
an
issue.
D
If
we
have
some
vaccine
hesitancy
among
our
group
here,
then
that
then
that
does
present
some
issues
because
of
the
variance,
then
I
think
we
do
need
to
think
about
plexiglas
masks,
distancing,
because
that's
when
those
things
are
important
is
when
you
don't
know
the
vaccination
status
of
the
people
around
you.
That's
when
you
need
the
protections,
and
so
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
rub
here.
D
I'm
curious
is
the
county.
Doing
anything.
Are
they
doing
plexiglas?
We
don't
know
whether
they're
wearing
masks
tonight,
whether
they've
set
up
their
situation
differently.
Are
they
distancing?
Have
they
been
forthcoming
about
their
vaccination
status?
Anybody
any
of
the
staff
have
any
sense
of
what
how
they've
handled
this
same
question.
A
I
I
do
know
that
when
I
spoke
with
catherine,
they
had
installed
plexigas
the
all
of
her
electeds
were
vaccinated.
I
don't
know
how
that
that
was
before
last
thursday,
when
or
whatever
day,
when
the
mask
stuff
changed.
So
I
don't
know
if
the
elected
officials
are
wearing
masks
or
not.
I
don't
know
I
was
trying
to
see
if
we
could
pull
up
their
online
meeting,
because
I
think
it's
happening
now,
but
I
don't
know
the
rest
of
the
answers
to
your
questions.
F
F
No,
I
was
just
gonna
note
that
again
using
the
city
of
rio,
rancho,
their
elected
officials
were
not
socially
distanced,
nor
were
they
wearing
a
mask.
They
were
in
their
regular
seats
and
and
that's
how
the
governing
body
handled
their
portion
and
then,
of
course,
staff
and
the
public
were
attending
virtually.
F
So
that
was
that
was
how
the
city
of
rio
rancho
handled
theirs,
and
I
don't
know
their
vaccination
status
did
not
inquire,
but
I
do
know
that
their
governing
body
was
back
in
person
in
their
normal
seats.
J
I
did
just
want
to
comment
that
the
the
matters
I
spoke
of
earlier
didn't
really
relate
to
whether
we
could
or
couldn't
determine
vaccination
status.
It
was
just
what
our
new
orders
are.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
H
D
Okay,
yeah
just
one
other
thing.
I
do
think
it's
important
that
we
that
if
we
are
all
wherever
we
all
are
that
we
need
to
be
visible
in
one
camera
frame,
so
I
don't
think
you
can
have
three
people
sitting
where
the
city
manager
city
attorney
sit,
and
then
you
know
the
other
five
or
whatever
number
it
is
six
of
us
sitting
over
space
on
the
dice.
D
I
I
think
it's
really
important
that
you
can
see
all
of
us
at
the
same
time,
particularly
if
you're
watching
from
some
of
the
other
spaces,
whether
it's
zoom
or
tv
or
whatever.
So
that's
my
only
other
thought.
Thank
you
mayor.
That's
all.
I
have.
A
Thanks,
let
me
take
a
crack
at
a
few
things
that
I've
been
noting.
First,
if
I
understand
the
city
attorney's
guidance,
we're
going
to
not
have
the
choice
of
not
being
in
person,
we
are
going
to
have
to
be
in
person.
That's
it's
not
optional.
It
we
no
longer
will
be
in
a
position
to
say
that
it
is
either
impossible
or
inconvenient
for
us
to
do
it
or
whatever
the
two
criteria
for
being
out
of
session
we're
going
to
be
in
session.
A
So
that's
that's
going
to
become
a
given
and
we
have
the
ability
to
do
it
relatively
quickly.
We,
if
the
governing
body
reaches
some
direction
for
staff.
I
think
our
next
governing
body
meeting
can
be
in
person
in
the
council
chambers,
depending
on
how
we
choose
to
to
facilitate
it.
Physically,
the
options
are
the
the
variables
I
I
think
we've
touched
on,
but
let
me
just
see
if
I
can
lay
them
out.
A
Second,
questions:
the
second
order
of
business
is
derivative
from
that,
and
it
has
to
do
with
wearing
masks,
not
wearing
mask
and
social
distancing
insofar
it
as
it
derives
from
vaccination
status.
Then.
The
third
question
that
has
been
brought
up
is:
what
are
our
technological
capabilities
and
how
do
we
best
meet
our
obligations
to
the
community
so
that
all
of
our
operations,
our
con
conduct
of
public
business,
is
done
in
a
way
that
is
as
technically
available
in
different
channels
as
easily
and
conveniently
as
possible.
A
There
may
be
a
fourth
variable,
but
I
think
those
pretty
much
are
the
three
questions
we've
raised
about
vaccination.
Yes,
no
mass
social
distance
falls
out
from
vaccination
status
and
then
technology
is
also
a
question
of
convenience,
cost
and
consistency,
and
then
there
are
three
different
other
variables.
The
first
is
among
those
choices.
How
does
the
governing
body
wish
to
do?
Business?
A
Second
question
is:
what
do
we
think
is
appropriate
for
our
staff
in
terms
of
their
doing
business
in
public
or
from
hybrid,
and
then
third,
of
course,
the
public
are
they
in?
Are
they
joining
there's
some
people
joining
us
in
we're
in
a
public
meeting
in
person,
or
will
they
continue
to
be
in
a
a
distance
technology-based
participation?
A
And
then
the
ultimate
question
is
public,
the
public
attendance
and
that
also
revolves
around
vaccination.
A
But
it's
a
little
trickier,
because
there
we
don't
know
what
the
ability
would
be
to
screen
or
ascertain
vaccination
status
were
people
or
do
if
we
wanted
people
in
the
council,
chambers
or
if
people
wanted
to
be
in
the
council
chambers.
How
do
you
screen
for
vaccination
with
any
sense
of
certainty
without
and
and
in
fact,
without
doing
it
in
a
way
that
puts
people
in
an
uncomfortable
situation?
A
E
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
while
we're
on
this
meeting,
I
took
a
quick
look
at
our
colleagues
in
the
county
commission
meeting
and
they
are
wearing
masks.
I
think,
there's
a
mix
of
folks,
so
I
think
it
should
be
left
up
to
the
individual
if
they
want
to
continue
to
keep
each
other
safe,
and
I
think
that
is
a
priority
here.
No
matter
what
we
decide,
it's
it's
done
on
a
safe
measure.
E
I
think
we're
we're
talking
about
vaccination
like
if
it's
the
silver
bullet
and
we've
got
to
remember
that
whether
we've
been
vaccinated
or
not,
we
can
still,
according
to
studies,
potentially
catch
cobit
and
still
spread
it.
E
We've
got
to
remember
that
we
all
have
lives
outside
of
this
governing
body
meeting
and
I'm
sure
each
and
every
one
of
us
has
individuals
that
are
at
high
risk,
and
I
think
we
have
to
approach
this
with
safety
as
a
priority,
and
with
that
being
said,
if
we
do
move
to
in-person
meetings,
I
I
strongly
believe
that
it
should
only
be
governing
body
members
and
we
gradually
increase
and
grow
to
to
incorporate
public
participation
in
that
matter.
E
With
that
also
being
said,
I
think
there
should
be
the
capability
for
governing
body
members.
Should
they
want
to
remote
participate.
There
should
be
that
should
be
allowed.
Everybody
should
not
be
forced
to
go
into
chamber
or
whatever
it
may
be.
I
think
we
we
still
are
in
the
middle
of
this
pandemic.
We
want
to.
I
agree,
we
should
move
to
in
person,
but
we
need
to
do
so
with
safety
as
priority
number
one.
I
don't
think
that
in
prior
to
the
pandemic,
technology
has
been
an
issue.
E
I
think
we
should
not
let
that
hit
be
the
hiccup
here
in
that
sense,
so
ensuring
that
folks
are
all
on
one
frame
that
wasn't
the
matter
before.
I
can
remember
that
we,
when,
when
we
would
meet
in
person,
if
the
person
was
speaking,
they
would
be
have
that
solo
shot
on
camera.
There
might
be
a
shot
where
there's
three
or
four
governing
body
members.
E
It
wasn't
a
consistent
full
governing
body
shot,
so
we've
just
got
to
adjust
and
pivot
accordingly
and
make
due
of
the
situation
that
we're
that's
in
front
of
us
and
and
let's
do
it
in
a
safe
manner.
E
But
but
but
I
do
want
us
to
get
off
the
mindset
that
vaccinations
are
the
silver
bullet
and
if
we've
been
vaccinated,
we're
good,
I
mean
I'll,
confirm
I've
been
vaccinated
proudly,
and
I
encourage
everybody
to
do
so,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
I
couldn't
potentially
catch
covet
or
I
couldn't
spread
it
to
to
a
loved
one
or
a
family.
Member
with
that
no
other
comments,
mr
mayor.
A
Thank
you
we're
at
the
one
hour
mark
on
this
item.
I
wonder:
look
yeah
city
manager,
you
wanna.
A
I
Just
summarize,
perhaps
where
I
think
we're
at
and
then
be
clear
about
some
next
steps,
so
a
general
consensus
would
be
probably
starting
with
option
one
which
would
be
the
return
to
governing
body
with
with
staff
and
public
on
zoom
masks
are
always
an
option
that
is
everybody's
personal
choice.
We
will,
if,
if,
if
I'm
getting
this
right,
we
will
proceed,
we
will
start
to
move
down
that
path
towards
option.
I
One
prepare
figuring
out
what
was
necessary
to
prepare
the
chambers
if
plexiglas
is
really
an
important
component
based
on
the
science
that
we
know
now
we
can
get
some
more
details
about
the
air
filters
that
have
been
incorporate,
put
into
chambers
start
to
map
out
some
options
for
the
setup
if
we
have
every
other
seat
filled
and
then
a
second
sort
of
a
theater
style,
seating
and
and
map
that
out
and
bring
bring
to
you
all
even
tomorrow
at
city
council,
I
can
probably
provide
some
updates.
I
Some
of
this
stuff
is
pretty
easy
to
to
do.
Does
that?
Does
that
mostly
track
with
people's
understanding
of
our
conversation?
I
And
then
we
can
continue
to
iterate
into
counselor
garcia's
point:
we're
gonna
evolve,
we're
gonna,
we'll
start
with
this.
We
can
add,
add
things
in
as
we
get
comfortable
as
the
rules
change,
as
you
know
again,
as
everything
continues
to
evolve.
I
But
if,
if
I
got
that
summary
right,
we'll
proceed
towards
operationalizing
option,
one
understanding
the
safety
requirements
needed
in
place
to
keep
the
governing
body
safe
and
then
the
only
other
question
I
would
clarify
is
we
had
stated
the
next
that
the
the
first,
the
first
time
we
could
do
this
is
june
9th.
I
M
Aveda
and
then
councillor
cassid,
thank
you
mayor.
I
just
I
like
councillor
garcia's
suggestion,
I'm
wondering,
if
is
there
an
option
where
some
council
members
could
still
remote
in
and
not
attend,
because,
like
I'm
thinking
of
myself,
should
there
be
some
kind
of
exposure
at
my
place
of
work?
But
I
am
not
necessarily
positive.
You
know
might
be
safer
for
me
to
zoom
in
for
a
couple
of
weeks
as
opposed
to
showing
up
to
the
chambers
just
because
I've
been
vaccinated.
M
A
I
believe
the
answer
is
technologically.
Yes,
we
have
the
capacity
for
both
in-person
and
remote
participation.
M
Okay,
well
then
it
for
what
it's
worth.
I
I
like
counselor
garcia's
suggestion.
We
start
with
the
council
only
have
that
option
and
then
gradually
increase
as
we
go,
because
I
think
he's
right
there.
So
there's
life
outside
of
city,
council
and
exposure
outside
of
city
council,
and
so
we
need
to
tread
carefully
as
we
move
forward.
Thank
you
mayor
councillor.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor
and
councillor
garcia.
I
also
popped
on
the
county
commission's
meeting
and
it
looked
like
they
would
mask
unmasked
to
talk,
which
I
think
is
something
that
we
need
to
consider
about
how
easily
we're
understood
on
a
camera
with
a
mask
on
so
another
piece
of
this
puzzle
that
we
need
to
think
about.
B
My
question,
though,
has
to
do
with.
We
have
those
categories.
Category
one
is
city
council
category
two
is
our
council
committees
as
well,
as
I
believe,
all
the
land
use
boards
and
then
council
three
is
or
category
three
is
you
know
it
kept
going
at
this
point?
Are
we
looking
at
just
governing
body
meetings?
Are
we
also
talking
about
standing
council
committee
meetings?
Are
we
talking
about?
I
I
I
That
is
the
request
of
suggestion
of
a
number
of
counselors
based
on.
So
what
what.
I
Very
good:
well,
we
can
we
will.
I
will
provide
a
bit
more
of
an
update
tomorrow
at
matters
from
city
manager,
I'll
see
if
I
can
get
a
little
bit
more
information,
but
we
will
proceed
down
the
path
of
option
one
beginning
june
9th,
and
then
we
will
move
quickly
through
I'm
noting
the
time
it's
5
10..
This
was
this
is
a
big
portion
of
it.
So
we'll
move
through
the
other
committees
and
and
keep
moving
good
christine.
F
Sure,
thank
you.
Moving
on
in
the
presentation,
I
think
we're
just
gonna.
Do
a
quick
category
overview
again
of
the
category
two.
We
have
a
very
similar
approach.
Utilizing
the
technology
that
we've
installed
in
the
chambers,
we're
asking
for
the
same
direction
on
whether
governing
body
would
like
the
same
option
where
the
council,
committees
or
committees
in
general
would
still
would
be
in
person,
and
then
this
staff
and
public
would
be
attending
on
zoom.
F
That
would
be
the
next
decision
point
and
then
category
three,
four
and
five
again
due
to
the
volume
of
committees
that
we
actually
have
and
the
preference
from
some
of
the
committees
was
to
return
actually
to
in
person.
So
on
category
two,
we
would
note
and
have
scheduled
out
in
advance
that
all
category
two
committees
would
meet
in
the
governing
body
chambers.
F
F
I
guess
I
probably
could
just
walk
through
it
that
this
would
be
an
increase
in
transparency
versus
pre-pandemic,
where
the
council
committees
were
not
actually
on
youtube,
nor
were
any
of
the
other
category
two
committees,
so
we
would
be
adding
youtube
and
archiving
on
youtube
as
well.
So
I'll
just
kind
of
stop
there
to
note
that
if
the
governing
body
would
like
to
follow
a
similar
model,
then
we
would
work
to
get
all
of
our
category
twos.
F
Where
they're,
where
the
committee
is
in
person
and
then
the
public
and
staff
is
on
zoom.
So
that
would
be
my
next
spot
and
I
think,
if
I
don't
know,
if
governing
body
just
wants
to
give
a
quick
consensus
on
that
or.
M
What
are
the
legal
restrictions
or
requirements
for
committees?
Are
they
the
same
as
governing
body
where
you
have
to
have
that
reason
to
not
be
in
person
or
there,
and
what's
the
difference
between
a
committee,
a
task
force
and
the
different
levels
that
we
we
have.
J
A
great
question,
so
our
our
council
committees
and
some
other
of
our
committees
are
policy
making
bodies
that
are
subject
to
the
open
meetings
act
even
outside
our
separate
requirements.
J
I'm
changing
to
my
other
and
taking
off
my
so
they
would
be
required
to
be
have
the
same
parameters
as
the
governing
body.
Then
we've
extended
the
open
meeting
act
to
our
open
meetings,
act
to
all
of
our
committees,
subject
to
our
own
procedures,
so
our
own
rules
would
also
require
them
to
follow
those
provisions,
as
well
as
our
emergency
procedures.
J
Act,
provides
the
same
stipulations
that
there
needs
to
be
one
via
declared
emergency
and
and
two
the
same
criteria
would
need
to
apply
so
the
attorney
general
wouldn't
have
oversight
of
our
non-policy
making
committees,
but
we
have
imposed
that
requirement
ourselves.
J
Mayor
webber,
counselor
beta,
I
think
that's
how
city
clerk
bustos
nahelsic
has
created
these
categories.
Actually,
so
two
category
two
is
all
subject
to
the
attorney
general's
oversight
in
relation
to
open
meetings
act
and
then
I
think
is
it
category
three
christine
that
goes
into
the
next
one,
where
it's
just
our
own,
in
that
that
applies
the
open
meetings
act
to
them.
J
Well,
maybe
whatever
counselor
beta,
we
we
have
imposed
the
higher
standard
on
them
ourselves,
so
we
could
change
our
own
rules
if
we
wished
to,
but
otherwise
the
same
rules
would
apply,
but
at
least
we
have
more
control
over
them.
If
we
wanted
to
say,
amend
our
ordinance
or
something
like
that,
but
it's
actually
in
our
ordinance
related
to
remote
meeting.
J
Mayor
weber,
counselor
abita,
it
may
depend
on
there
may
be
different
different
difficulties,
so
I
think
priority
would
certainly
be
given
in
terms
of
technology
and
access
to
space
to
the
governing
body.
So
there
might
be
different
reasons
for
a
difficulty
or
impossibility
to
meet
in
person
for
a
less
crucial
body.
So
that's
possible.
There
could
be
a
distinction
there
like
if
the
governing
body
had
the
room
and
we
needed
that
room
in
order
to
meet,
then
that
would
be
a
difficulty
or
impossibility.
A
Okay,
let's
see,
I
think,
councillor
cassette,
you
are
next
and
then
council
romerowood.
B
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you
mayor.
I
think
I'm
following
up
on
some
of
councillor
abita's
question.
So
in
this
decision
here
do
we
have
the
possibility
to
say
council
standing
committees
will
come
back
to
in
person,
but
the
rest
of
category
two.
B
There
might
be
extenuating
circumstances
within
those
bodies
that
we
don't
know
about
it's.
You
know
it's
a
bit
of
a
a
challenging
decision
to
make
four
other
committees
right
now,
as
opposed
to
our
own.
So
I'm
I'm
curious.
If
our
council
standing
committees
can
come
back
because
if
governing
bodies
coming
back
well,
hey
we're
already
doing
it.
So
I
may
as
well
get
our
three
standing
council
committees
back
too,
but
does
that
necessitate
that?
Then
we
extend
that
to
the
rest
of
category
two.
F
Counselor
cassette
mayor
weber
governing
body-
I
can
address
that
so
we've.
I
basically
structured
this
so
that
category
one
and
two
could
basically
run
the
same
in
the
same
structure
to
attorney
mcsharry's
point
category
three,
four
three
and
four
five
doesn't
fall
under
our
open
meetings.
Act
is
where
we
would
kind
of
be
the
next
phase.
F
So
if
the
governing
body
wanted
those
committees
to
stay
all
on
zoom,
we
could
work
towards
that
or
if
they
wanted
them
to
come
back
completely
in
person,
we
could
work
on
that
as
well.
So
the
way
it's
structured
and
with
scheduling
of
the
chambers,
we
don't
have
overlap
and
we're
able
to
accommodate
all
of
category
two
into
this
structure
where
we
could
either
maintain
a
meeting
hosted
on
zoom
and
streamed
on
youtube,
which
again
would
increase
transparency
and
would
keep
us
consistent
with
what
we've
done
through
the
pandemic.
F
B
F
Yes,
however,
if
the
governing
body
wanted
to
just
note
that
the
land
use
committees
would
come
back
completely
in
person,
that's
something
we
could
accommodate
and
then
the
decision
would
need
to
be
whether
they
wanted
to
the
governing
body
would
like
to
continue
those
to
be
on
youtube.
So
at
that
point
the
decision
shifts
to
whether
you
would
like
the
other
categories
to
come
back
completely
in
person
or
to
have
the
virtual
participation
option.
B
Okay-
and
I
will
just
state
that
I
I
do
think
that
increasing
youtube
and
holding
on
to
that
is
one
of
those
things
that
we
have
gotten
from
this
pandemic
that
we
should
hold
on
to
and
continue
to
stream
things
on
youtube
and
archive
them.
I
know
I
find
it
helpful
because
then
I
can
go
back
and
watch
meetings,
and
I
know
that
means
members
of
the
public
can
watch
them
at
their
leisure
as
opposed
to
when
we
schedule
them
and
then
what
would
this
mean
in
these
right
now?
F
F
Perfect,
I
didn't
know
if
you
meant,
like
the
staff,
to
actually
produce
the
meeting
and
get
everything
up
and
going
the
the
liaison
could
be
right.
Now,
the
we
would
work
through
what
staffing
or
additional
contract
support
would
look
like
for
that.
F
Okay,
so
we
make
it
to
hire
a
contractor
so
that
the
liaisons
wouldn't
necessarily
have
to
come
back
for
those
meetings,
but
we
do
have
a
lot
of
committees
and
a
limited
number
of
stops.
So
we
do
it's
all.
Basically,
a
balance
again
if
governing
body
came
back,
the
zoom
is
one
of
the
things
that
triggers
some
additional
assistance
so.
B
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
I
don't
think
I
have
any
any
questions.
Further
questions
at
this
time,
this
one's
a
little
bit
more
challenging
just
in
terms
of
it
impacts
more
than
just
our
body.
Have
we
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
the
rest
of
the
category
two
boards
that
include
members
that
are
not
members
of
the
governing
body
and
understanding
where
they
are
and
how
they're
feeling?
A
Christine
or
terrell
has
anybody
reached
out
to
any
of
those
other
groups
to
see
if
they
have
any
input
they'd
like
to
make.
F
F
So
there's
there
has
been
some
discussion
at
that
level
and
I
think
for
probably
category
three
and
four:
that's
a
really
great
option.
We
also
currently
would
have
to
install
additional
technology
and
other
in
other
areas
for
us
to
be
able
to
accommodate
this
hybrid.
The
hybrid
is
actually
a
bit
more
demanding
on
staff
technology,
time
and
resources,
so
those
are
other
things
to
also
that
we're
trying
to
balance
and,
of
course,
as
you
mentioned,
the
need
with
over
50
committees.
F
There
are
some
committees
where
the
members
would
like
to
come
back
in
person
for
a
variety
of
reasons:
I'll
use
the
senior
advisory
board
as
an
example.
They
would
like
to
meet
all
in
person
and
have
made
that
request
for
their
next
meeting.
There
are
some
land
use
committees
that
have
expressed
possibly
just
coming
back
to
in
person
again.
Some
of
what
we're
going
to
balance,
though,
is
also
technology,
so
for
us
to
stay
on
youtube.
F
What
that
looks
like
versus
and
that's
how
these
categories
were
structured
as
well,
and
how
kind
of
the
decision
tree
was
made.
So
right
now,
with
category
two
meeting
in
the
governing
body
chambers,
we
can
continue
the
youtube,
which
I
think
we
all
agree
has
been
a
great
benefit
to
our
community.
I
think
it's
something
that's
very
essential
and
then
categories
possibly
three
and
four.
B
I
know
it's
a
bit
unconventional,
but
getting
into
the
summer
months.
I
don't
know
if
we
would
explore
an
outside
meeting
for
some
of
those
that
don't
have
to
be
streamed
on
youtube.
I
know
mayor's
youth
advisory
board.
They
have
they've
been
wanting
to
get
together
and
that's
obviously
a
different
discussion
because
they
are
used,
but
but
the
you
know,
if
there's
a
possibility
for
some
more
like
unconventional
models
that
might
increase
safety
and
take
advantage
of
summer
weather.
B
F
Note
categories
three
and
four
are
not
currently
on
youtube
and
they
are
not
scheduled
to
be
on
youtube
coming
back,
so
it's
categories,
one
and
two
that
have
been
on
youtube
categories.
Three
and
four
have
not
been
on
youtube
during
the
pandemic
and
would
not
be
moving
forward
at
this
time.
A
My
questions,
thank
you,
council
mayor
worth
and
then
councilor
garcia.
D
D
Can
I
also
ask
that
we
be
emailed
this
presentation
right
away,
because
this
conversation
about
categories
I'm
having
trouble
tracking,
you
all,
are
familiar
with
what
you
put
in
which
category,
but
I
am
not,
and
so
I'm
feeling
a
little
bit
at
a
loss
here.
So
while
you
send
that
to
us-
because
I
do
have
a
question
about
that-
I
have
another
question.
D
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
city
attorney
and
this
idea
of
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding,
so
it's
difficult
or
impossible
to
attend
and
the
reason
why
this
is
the
the
standard
that
we
are
being
asked
to
apply
now
is
because
we
are
no
longer
under
a
public
health
emergency.
In
the
same
way,
it's
not
it's
not
because
there's
a
vaccine
and-
and
we
now
have
the
ability
to
gather
in
person
it's
because
well
maybe
it
is
help
me
understand
how
why
that
test.
J
Mayor
river
councillor
romero
worth
we
don't
necessarily
fail,
but
I
think
there
are
the
restrictions
on
our
ability
to
do.
All
sorts
of
things
have
been
lifting
consistently.
J
I
think
some
of
the
original
reasons
that
we
stopped
meeting
in
person
were
the
risk
of
infection,
so
that
is
still
out
there
to
some
degree,
although
it
is
much
less
right
and
then
the
restrictions
on
building
capacity
and
numbers
of
gathering,
I
think
we,
you
know,
went
into
off-site
operations
and
off-site
meetings
and
meeting
remotely
when
the
number
of
persons
who
were
permitted
to
gather
was
limited
to
five,
so
that
didn't
allow
us
to
have
the
whole
governing
body
meet
at
all.
J
Although
there
was
there
were
some
interpretations
of
the
orders
that
they
didn't
apply
to
necessary
public
business,
but
in
order
I
think
there
was
a
very
good
reason
not
to
meet
in
public,
and
I
think
that
reason
has
persisted
so
under
our
rule
about
remote
meeting.
We
we
require
there
to
be
a
declared
emergency,
it
does
not
say
specifically
city
versus
state,
but
it's
in
our
city
emergency
proclamation
act.
So
I
would
interpret
that
as
a
city
declared
emergency.
We
currently
do
have
a
declared
emergency
under
so
under
open
meetings.
J
Act
you're
not
allowed
to
meet
remotely
unless
your
local
rules
permit
it.
So
we
actually
within
the
last
year
and
a
half
or
so
created
that
local
rule.
We
didn't
even
have
that.
Previously,
a
lot
of
local
governments
had
to
come
into
an
emergency
session
to
pass
that
local
rule
to
then
enable
them
to
meet
remotely.
Thankfully
we
had
it
and
then
we
extended
it
to
our
committees.
So
that's
that's
the
first
factor
in
in
our
local
rule,
which
we're
allowed
to
make
more
stringent
than
the
state's
role,
and
so
in
our
local
rule.
J
J
I
think
that,
given
a
pandemic
and
an
infectious
situation,
we
can
certainly
be
liberal
in
our
interpretation
and
application
of
that,
but
at
the
same
time
as
more
people
get
vaccinated
and
as
the
immunity
of
the
community
increases,
there
will
be
less
and
less
of
a
justification
to
have
that
rule
apply.
D
J
J
D
Okay-
and
I
guess
yeah,
so
I
don't
know
that
there's
part
of
me
that
thinks
maybe
maybe
we're
premature
even
in
in
contemplating
this
given
everybody's,
you
know,
I
think
we
all
want
to
come
back
together,
but
again
we
still
want
to
be
safe.
So
I'll
just
I
know
we're
unlimited
time
we
won't
belong.
I
want
to
talk
about
the
fact
that
I
think
the
fact
that
our
our
committees
are
on
youtube
is
really
important.
D
I
too
do
not
want
to
lose
that
I
had
wanted
us
to
get
the
committees
on
youtube
prior
to
the
pandemic
and
it
was
too
expensive
and
the
technology
wasn't
available,
and
so
now
I
completely
agree
that
now
we
have
that,
let's
not
lose
that
and
I
I
guess
I
would
also
just
say
that
you
know
I
think,
as
we
move
through
these
different
categories
and
and
thank
you
christine
for
sending
this.
This
is
very
helpful
now
to
be
looking
at
what
category
two
is.
D
As
we
look
at
category
two
and
and
go
through
category
three
and
four,
you
know,
I
think
everybody's
gonna
have
sort
of
the
similar
concerns.
Right
is,
what's
their
comfort
level.
D
What's
their
vaccination
level,
it
gets
more
murky
there
about
whether
you
can
whether
people
will
want
to
volunteer
their
vaccination
status
and
but
and
to
the
point
of
we
all
have
lives
outside
of
this,
and
we
interact
with
people
who
you
know
may
be
at
risk,
and
so
your
expo
you're
increasing
their
exposure
as
you
interact
more
so
I
I
just
think
our
our
comfort
levels,
whatever
our
comfort
level
is,
has
got
to
transcend
itself
as
we
move
through
these
categories.
A
Thank
you,
councillor,
garcia
and
then
councilwoman
viarielle
and
I
I
have
an
eye
on
the
clock.
It's
5
30
and
we
haven't
spoken
about
item
beef
tonight.
Yet
so
I
don't
know
exactly
how
we
will
manage
our
time,
but
I
know
there's
still
discussion
on
this
item,
so
I
would
go
to
you
counselor
garcia.
You
have
the
floor.
E
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council
romero
worth
kind
of
hit
on
some
of
the
questions
I
had.
I
guess
my
only
follow-up
to
that
would
be
have
we
reached
out
to
the
attorney
general's
office
in
regards
to
the
guidance
that
they
might
be
looking
at.
E
E
J
However,
counselor
garcia,
I
can
I
I
can
reach
out
to
them.
I
we
did
reach
out
during
the
course
of
the
pandemic
at
a
few
times
to
see
if
they
were
going
to
update
their
guidance
that
came
out
initially
and
we
hadn't
gotten
any
updates
to
that.
But
it's
possible
they're
going
to
update
it.
So
I
can
ask
again.
A
Thank
you,
councillor,
councilwoman
varial.
You
have
the
floor.
H
A
I
Mr
mayor
counselor
viral,
I
don't
know
the
answer,
but
I.
A
H
Yeah
I
mean
it
already
occurred
pre-pandemic,
so
I'm
just
curious
how
that
if
that
could
still
continue
based
on
their
the
joint
entities
decision
and
then
I
was
just
curious
cat
you're
saying
category
three:
it
would
be
up
to
them
if
they
want
to
meet
in
person
or
those
would
stay
remote.
F
Council,
woman
varial
mayor
weber,
members
of
the
governing
body,
there
have
been
some
committees
within
category
three
that
have
requested
that
they
go
back
completely
in
person,
so
I
did
know
that
if
that
was
at
the
request
of
the
committee
or
the
committee
liaison
that
that
could
be
an
option.
I
do
want
to
note
for
category
three.
F
H
Yeah,
it
seems
a
little
bit
more
complicated
because
then
to
allow
for
public
participation
it
would
you
know
where
they're
at
and
yeah.
So
I
think
that
I'd
like
to
know
more
about
that
and
understand
how
that
will
work,
I'm
sure
they
would
too.
So.
Are
you
all
going
to
give
us
additional
information
about
that?
I.
F
Councilwoman
bureau.
Sorry,
I
also
just
wanted
to
know
two
other
things.
One
is
that
category
three
doesn't
traditionally
have
public
comment
or
public
participation
similar
to
how
public
works
utilities
does,
but
finance
and
quality
of
life
does
not.
So
those
are
also
things
that
we
took
into
consideration,
but
we
have
a
large
volume
of
committees
in
general
and
so
in
category
three
part
of
why
the
public
could
potentially
participate
on
zoom.
F
It
would
be
in
the
listening
in
participation
that
they
would
be
in
now,
and
so
a
laptop
could
potentially
accommodate
that
with
again
members
being
in
person
for
their
meeting
locations
and
as
councillor
cassette
did
mention
earlier,
we
did
have
a
committee
ask
if
they
could
meet
outside,
which
would
not
violate
anything
at
this
time.
So
I
think
committees
are
trying
to
get
creative
because
they
do
want
to
meet
so.
Okay.
H
F
H
F
H
C
Thank
you.
I
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
the
joint
powers
board
boards,
specifically
solid
waste
management
and
buckman
direct
diversion
it.
It
seems
to
me
that
this
body
wouldn't
have
direct
jurisdiction
and
that
those
discussions
should
be
between
the
chairs,
the
executive
directors
and
the
the
attorney
their
attorney,
so
that
discussion,
I
think,
needs
to
be
to
take
place
there.
A
Thank
you
any
other
comments.
We've
got
about
20
minutes
to
go
and
we
have
another
item
to
address.
So
maybe
we
should
park
this
for
more,
more
consideration,
some
feedback.
Some
questions
have
been
raised
and
moved
to
item
b
on
the
agenda
christine.
Do
you
want
to
just
mention
for
the
folks
who
are
listening
or
watching
what
item
b?
7B
is.
F
I
got
lost
in
my
presentation
item
7b
is
discussion
on
returning
to
on-site
work
and
in-person
services,
and
our
city
manager
draw
le
pen
hill
will
also
be
guiding
that
discussion.
I
Joe
or
christine,
whoever
has
the
slide
powers,
would
you
guys
bring
that
up?
This
is
this
is
a
quicker
conversation
I'll
lay
out
some
of
where
we're
at
and
then
I'd
love,
again
feedback
and
reaction
to
what
we've
said.
So
this
is
less
detailed,
still
complicated,
but
less
detailed,
joe
go
ahead
and
keep
sliding
through.
I
think
it
starts
on
there.
We
go
okay.
So
again,
this
is
all
about
increase
in
on-site
operations.
It's
a
bit
of
a
misnomer
to
say,
return
to
work.
I
As
you
know,
many
many
many
of
our
dedicated
team
have
been
working
on
sites.
For
this
whole
time,
I
listed
our
teams
that
have
been
on
site
again.
We
have
some
that
have
teleworked,
but
a
majority
of
our
teams
have
been
working.
So
what
we
are
doing
now
is
looking
to
increase
our
on-site
services,
but
really
want
to
acknowledge
the
people
who
have
been
day
in
and
day
out
been
been
there
through
it
all
so
many
kudos
go
to
them.
Go
ahead.
Joke
keep
go
to
the
next
slide.
I
So
again,
what
we've
been
working
on
to
make
sure
we
have
a
safe
return
for
those
who
haven't
been
in
the
office
and
just
an
overall
increase
in,
and
people
see
man
myself,
finance
it
and
hr
met
with
all
of
the
departments
to
review
their
needs.
We've
got
a
checklist
to
ensure
buildings
are
adequately
equipped,
we're
doing
a
technology
review
and,
of
course,
continuing
to
make
sure
that
the
basic
hygiene
components
are
there.
I
One
important
piece
as
we
look
at
the
it
assessment
is
to
note
the
guidance
we
got.
Is
it's
very
important
that
we
do
this
in
a
phased,
a
phased
approach?
We
don't
want
to
have
all
those
who
haven't
been
in
their
offices,
return
on
one
day
and
essentially
blow
a
fuse
right,
not
be
able
to
the
the
computers
that
haven't
been
updated
will
be
out
of
date.
So
we
are
working
with
each
department
and
work
site
to
make
sure
that
they
are
ready
to
go
and
they
will.
I
They
will
start
returning
folks
as
they
go
go
ahead.
Joe
next
slide.
I
So,
where
we're
working
to
continue
to
to
build
things
out
again,
our
our
policies
making
sure
that
employees
understand
what
is
required
of
them.
A
key
piece
of
this
is
maintaining
and
building
out
our
flexible
work
arrangement.
I
think
much
like
the
conversation
around
youtube.
I
Our
ability
to
have
city
staff,
where
it's
acceptable
and
for
their
job
classification,
to
be
able
to
telework
to
be
able
to
have
a
flexible
work
arrangement
is
really
important
and
so
working
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
we
can
maintain
that
component
again,
where
it's,
where
it's
applicable,
where
it's
appropriate,
so
that
we
can
both
of
course,
make
sure
that
our
public
services
are
are
maintained,
but
that
that's
an
option
for
those,
and
you
see
that
across
the
board,
employers
are
looking
again
to
manage
that
that
flexibility,
I
will
say
the
county-
is
maintaining
their
their
hybrid
approach,
and
so
that's
what
we're
we
are
working
with
and
last
slide.
I
I
think
it
is
the
last
side.
So
then,
of
course,
knowing
that
a
majority
of
our
staff
have
been
already
working.
Obviously
the
big
thing
is
city
hall,
because
the
day
we
can
open
those
doors,
it
feels
like
we're
in
a
very
different
environment,
we're
working
with
facilities.
I
The
plan
is
to
create
a
central
entrance
because,
as
you
all
mentioned,
we've
all
been
in
businesses.
This
isn't
everything
is
different.
Now,
so
you
come
in
you're,
greeted
by
someone
you
are
directed
to
where
you're
needing
to
go.
It's
actually
something
we
had
taught.
We've
talked
about.
You
know,
sort
of
pre-pandemic
right
to
be
able
to
not
just
have
folks
wandering
around
but
really
direct
their
experience
in
city
hall.
I
So
we
are
working
to
create
a
reception
area
that
will
allow
the
flow
of
of
the
public
and
and
keeping
the
the
north
and
south
entrances
locked
so
that
we've
got
this
central
flow
of
of
entrance
and
again
the
goal
is
to
have
all
on-site
operations
return
to
on-site
operations
by
the
end
of
june,
specifically
not
setting
a
hard
date,
because
each
place
each
work
site
is
in
a
different
place
and
and
then
again
where,
where
telework
is
an
option
working
with
the
managers
to
make
that
a
a
viable
option.
I
So
that
is
the
way
we
are
looking
at
it
again
very
aware
that
the
state
will
issue
a
continuous
issue,
new
guidance.
It
does
seem
like
they
are
operating
on
a
similar
model.
I
Each
department
is
setting
their
setting
their
own,
the
way
they're
going
to
have
their
employees
return,
and
it
seems
to
be
a
pretty
big
mix,
some
combinations
of
remote
and
in
person.
So
with
that,
I
wanted
to
share,
share
the
way,
we're
thinking
about
it
and
get
your
feedback
as
to
what
else
you
want
us
to
consider
reactions
to
the
time
frame
and
anything
else.
You
would
want
us
to
think
about.
A
Thank
you.
We've
got
a
good
good
time
to
ask
questions
or
deliver
some
thoughts
to
the
city
manager
and
the
team
about
what
other
factors
you'd
like
to
be
looked
into.
Councilman
varial,
followed
by
councillor
cassidy.
H
I
Mr
mayor
counselor,
via
real,
if
a
person
is
in
a
job
classification
that
is
eligible
to
telework,
then
we
will
work
to
ensure
that
they
have
that
flexible
work
arrangement.
There
are
some
instances
where
telework
isn't
possible.
So
if
they're
in
that
job
classification,
then
it
isn't
something
that
would
be
an
option.
So
that's
where
we,
it
gets
a
little
bit
complicated.
But
if
you're
in
a
position
that
that
it's
available
to
then
then
yes.
H
Okay
and
then
I
guess,
I'm
just
thinking
about
folks
that
have
kids,
especially
this
summer,
there's
less
camps,
there's
less
people
that
feel
comfortable
with
camps,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
going
to
give
our
staff
the
opportunity.
Obviously
it's
going
to
depend
on
their
position,
but
those
that
have
been
working
remotely
to
still
kind
of
have
to
make
sure
we
have
that
option
for
them,
since
they'll
probably
have
their
kids
at
home.
H
This
summer
I
mean
not
in
all
cases,
but
just
seeing
how
things
are
going
for
our
summer
camp
numbers
and
then
just
the
possibility
or
just
hearing
from
friends
about
how
there's
less
options
for
their
kids.
I
want
to
make
sure
we
have
that,
because
I
wouldn't
want
to
have
staff
who
is
now
kind
of
transitioning
back
to
their
office,
have
to
bring
their
kids
to
the
office.
So
is
that
is
that
what
I'm
saying.
H
Yeah,
I
think
it's
just
it's
hard
to
figure
out
these
scenarios,
because
each
department's
so
different
and
different
situations.
So
I
just
hope
that
the
outreach
is
taking
into
consideration
that
we're.
This
is
kind
of
a
case
situation,
not
that
every
kind
of
model
is
going
to
work
for
each
department.
So
I
just
want
to
hear
from
you
all
that.
That's
that's
the
case
that
that's
how
you're
approaching
it.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
cassette
and
then
councillor
of
eta.
B
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
yeah.
I
also
wanted
to
speak
to
some
of
the
home
situations,
whether
it's
kids,
who
are
elementary
school-aged
or
just
a
shortage
shortage
of
child
care
across
the
city,
has
been
a
problem.
I
know
I've
spoken
about
it
quite
a
bit
and
then
also
the
consideration
of
individuals
who
might
not
be
able
to
get
vaccinated
because
of
pre-existing
conditions.
It
puts
them
at
a
heightened
risk
for
covid
people
who
have
spouses
at
home,
who
are
at
a
heightened
risk
for
covid,
and
so
it
sounds
like
with
each
individual
case.
B
J
Mayor
weber's
counselors,
two
things
so
on
the
case
by
case,
I
think
in
the
initial
instance
related
to
teleworking.
It's
related
case
by
case
by
the
position.
For
example,
we
can't
allow
a
lifeguard
to
tell
a
work,
obviously
right,
like
that
position
has
to
be
on
site
regardless.
If
you
have
children
or
not
right,
then
there's
other
positions
where
we're
going
to
allow
teleworking
if
the
position
allows
for
it
and
the
flexibility
is
there
to
work
with
people,
and
I
think
we're
looking
at
updating
that
telework
policy,
so
it
hasn't
been
updated.
J
Yet
then,
there's
the
case
by
case
for
medical
conditions,
so
that
really
would
be
looking
at
the
person
right
and
whether
or
not
we
think
can
be
reasonably
accommodated,
given
whatever
their
circumstances
are,
and
so
that
will
be
extremely
case
by
case,
because
then
you
look
at
the
job
and
the
situation
and
the
person's
medical
condition.
So
that's
even
more
particular.
B
B
J
May
or
whether
a
counselor
cast
it
extenuating
circumstance
is
not
the
legal
category,
so
it
really
would
be
based
on
a
medical
situation
and
that
falls
into
ada
and
reasonable
accommodation,
so
that
that
is
its
own
category
and
own
legal
framework,
so
that
would
be
a
different
criteria
or
criterion
than
than
these
other
situations,
and
I
think
I
think
the
city
manager
is
looking
for
your
input
as
we
develop
this
new
teleworking
policy,
because
we
are
going
to
need
to
update
it.
J
So
this
type
of
feedback
as
to
how
long
to
extend
the
kind
of
maximum
flexibility
we've
had
now
versus
less.
You
know
what
what
is
that
middle
ground?
Is
there
a
middle
ground,
or
is
it
always
maximum
going
forward
forever?
That
kind
of
thing,
I
think,
that's
the
kind
of
feedback
that
she's,
probably
looking
for.
B
Okay,
wonderful,
thank
you
for
that
clarification,
and
that
is
a
it's
a
very
good.
It's
a
really
good
question
and
there's
a
lot
of
gosh
a
lot
more
than
we
can
bite
off
in
the
next
10
minutes.
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
I'll
think.
G
B
I
Mr
mayor
councillor,
cassid,
thank
you
for
the
question,
so
that
is
based
on
the
assessments
that
are
currently
being
done
by
I.t
and
public
works.
So
each
right
because
so
we're,
as
you
know,
we're
we're
a
wide
diaspora.
So
some
of
the
areas
are
ready
to
go
and
it's
not
very
complicated
others
you
know
have
had
folks
working
and
so
it's
a
a
quick
turnaround.
I
I
Is
ready
and
the
space
is
ready
for
people
to
come
back
and
then
to
aaron's
point
the
telework
right
now
we've
allowed
for
maximum
flexibility,
so
you
could
telework
one
day
a
week.
You
could
work
five
days
a
week
and
we
didn't
sort
of
that
was
that
was
up
to
you
and
your
manager.
Whatever
was
gonna
work
so
now
that
is
where
we're
starting
and
you
know
it
could
evolve
into
you
know
two
days
a
week.
It
could
evolve
into
whatever
it
is.
So
that's
the
next
phase
of
this.
B
I
We
keep
recruiting
the
workforce
of
the
future,
who
you
know
part
of
the
flexibility
you
know
but
and
it
to
to
counselor
veto
coppers
point:
it's
really
complicated
because
we're
such
a
diverse
we
offer
such
a
diverse
array
of
services.
The
jobs
are
all
very
different,
and
so
there
isn't
a
one-size-fits-all
solution.
I
Some
some
require
you
to
be
on
site.
No
questions
asked
and
others
don't,
and
so
that's
part
of
what
we're
we
have
an
opportunity.
I
think,
to
wrestle
with
and
and
decide
how
that
we,
as
we,
the
city
as
an
employer,
want
to
recruit
and
retain.
B
People
yeah,
I
do
think
it's
a
really
interesting
conversation
to
start
talking
about
those
flexible
work
schedules.
I
know
it's
a
conversation,
a
lot
among
working
mothers
who
frequently
are
the
ones
that
are
doing
a
lot
of
the
juggling
and
then
I
know
it's
a
big
conversation
among,
I
believe,
they're
called
the
sandwich
generation,
the
generation
that's
raising
kids,
as
well
as
taking
care
of
like
aging
parents.
B
So
I
agree.
I
think
there
really
is
an
opportunity
to
explore
here
and
it's
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
thought
and
consideration.
But
there
is
this
component
that
not
all
of
our
jobs
are
going
to
be
able
to
to
take
advantage
of
that.
And
what
does
that
start
to
look
like?
So
I'm
glad
that
we're
having
the
conversation.
It's
definitely
no
easy
answer
there,
but
I
do
appreciate
that
this
is
something
that
we
are
looking
into
and
I
would
be
curious
about
you
know:
staff
feedback.
B
B
This
pandemic's
over,
so
I
look
forward
to
continuing
this
discussion,
but
that'll
be
it
for
now.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
beta,
you
have
the
floor.
M
Thank
you
mayor.
I
think
councilwoman
cassette
sanchez
really
just
addressed
all
my
points
about
talent,
community
and
teleworking.
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity.
M
I
think
there
were
probably
some
efficiencies
that
were
realized
over
this
last
pandemic
related
to
tell
working
and
we
shouldn't
go
back
to
the
old
way,
just
because
that's
what
everyone
else
was
doing
or
the
pandemic
is
over.
So
let's
do
that.
I
think
where
we
do
have
opportunities
and
where
we
did
realize
some
efficiencies,
we
should
continue
to
explore
how
we
allow
that
to
keep
it
happening.
So
those
are
my
comments.
Thank
you,
mayor.
A
I
think
it's.
It
is
interesting
a
year
ago,
when
we
closed
things
down
because
we
had
to,
I
thought
everybody
did
a
remarkable
job
right,
really
rising
up
for
the
for
the
situation
and
making
the
best
of
it
and
keeping
our
employees
safe
and
providing
the
technology
for
distance
working
and
identifying,
who
could
couldn't
and
and
when
the
the
circumstances
provide
for
it.
A
Who
could
do
a
hybrid
work
situation,
and
here
we
are
a
little
more
than
a
year
later
and
now
we
are
doing
the
opposite
in
effect,
which
is
to
say,
okay,
as
we
bring
folks
back
on
site.
What
is
the
right
way
to
spool
that,
and
what
do
we
do
to
maintain
the
gains
in
productivity
and
innovation
that
have
been
achieved?
How
do
we
take
individual
circumstances
into
account
as
much
and
as
sensitively
as
possible?
A
How
do
we
maintain
and
improve
the
efficiency
and
productivity
of
city
government?
So
it's
the
right
conversation
to
be
having
right
now,
jarrell?
Is
there
anything
you
you
would
like
to
summarize
with
at
this
point
about
where
you
think
we
go
next,
what
you
will
be
moving
forward
with.
I
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you
for
engaging
in
this
level
of
conversation.
I
hope
it
felt
constructive
and
I
think
please
continue
it.
What
you
know
we
can
we
can
do
it
one
on
one
we
can
gather,
but
I
think,
as
I
said,
but
you
know
we're
living
in
these
uncertain
times,
and
I
really
we
want
to.
I
We
want
to
do
right
by
the
public
by
our
employees
and
also
re
build
on
what
we've
gone
through
over
the
last
year
and
pick
up.
You
know
move
forward
where
we've
had
some
successes.
You
know
so
I
just
appreciate
the
engagement.
I
will
do
get
as
much
details
to
report
back
tomorrow
and
then
we'll
keep
moving
forward.
So
with
that,
if
there
are
no
other
comments,
we
will
stick
to
on
time.
I
We'll
get
three
minutes
back,
and
I
really
I
just
genuinely
appreciate
the
the
time,
the
feedback
and
the
conversation.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
thanks
everybody.
We
will
pick
this
up
with
more
answers
to
the
questions
that
have
been
raised
on
both
item
a
and
b
and
resume
the
discussion
with
more
feedback
and
options
and
then
hopefully
be
back
with
a
decision
about
the
the
forthcoming
council
meeting
and
then
the
return
people
working
on
site.
So
I
appreciate
it
good
good
public,
good
discourse,
good
exchange
of
ideas.
I
will
see
everybody
tomorrow
for
a
regularly
scheduled
good
meeting
of
the
governing
body.