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A
Okay,
at
five
o'clock,
I
will
call
the
quality
of
life
committee
meeting
for
august
4th
to
order.
We
do
have
a
couple
committee
members
who
will
not
be
joining
us
tonight
so
jennifer.
If
you
could
call
the
role.
That
would
be
great.
A
A
Do
you
have
a
second
second,
so
we
have
a
motion
by
councillor
rivera
second
by
councillor,
garcia,
to
approve
the
agenda
for
tonight,
as
is
if
we
could
get
a
roll
call
on
that
as
well.
A
D
A
Counselor
garcia,
I,
for
some
reason
my
computer
is
not
showing
hands
raised.
I
don't
know
if
that's
there
we
go
found
it
all
right.
Council,
garcia.
Did
you
have
your
hand
up?
I'm
sorry.
A
C
So
sorry,
madam
chair,
just
briefly,
item
e.
A
Item
e
okay
item
e
request
for
approval
of
fy22
police
vehicle
purchase.
All
right
is
there
a
motion
on
the
consent
agenda.
D
A
All
right,
so
our
consent
agenda
is
approved.
We
will
go
to.
Let's
see
I
got
to
do
the
minutes.
I
always
forget
that
approval
of
the
minutes
from
july
21st
are
there
changes
from
staff
to
those
minutes.
No
changes
to
the.
B
A
Okay,
great
and
do
we
have
a
motion
or
changes
and
then
emotion
from
the
counselors.
A
A
Chair
carol,
ramirez,
yes,
all
right.
So
the
only
item
that
was
pulled
from
the
consent
agenda
is
item
e
request
for
fy22
oops.
Let's
see
hold
on
here
we
go
fy
22
police
vehicle
purchase,
requesting
the
total
amount
of
one
million
one
hundred
fifty
five
thousand
three
hundred
seventy
one
dollars
and
thirty:
two
cents
for
vehicles,
equipment
and
labor
costs
associated
with
each
vehicle,
and
I
think
we
have
somebody
deputy
chief
valdez
you're
here
right
and
counselor
rivera.
You
have
the
floor.
C
Chief
of
this,
thank
you
and
first
thank
you
for
finding
a
hybrid
vehicle.
I
assume
this
is
the
ford
interceptor
that
will
be
used
on
a
daily
basis
out
of
the
streets.
Is
that
correct.
E
Madam
chair
councillor,
evanna,
yes,
sir,
that
interceptor
vehicle
will
be
utilized
by
our
patrol
fleet.
All.
C
Right
great,
that's
great
to
great
to
hear,
and
what
type
of
since
it's
a
hybrid
it
uses
fuel
as
well
as
batteries.
Is
that
correct.
C
E
Counselor
veto
because
it's
a
hybrid
engine,
the
way
that
you
fuel
the
vehicles
with
conventional
fuel
and
as
the
vehicle
is
utilized,
it
regenerates
power
so
either
through
idling
or
through
braking
that
regenerates
and
charges
up
the
batteries
and
that's
a
great
benefit
for
us,
because,
as
our
officers
are
driving
around
that
battery's
getting
charged
up
and
once
they
need
to
idle
the
fuel
engine
turns
off,
and
then
it
switches
over
to
electric
power,
and
then
it
just
kicks
on
to
idle
when
it
needs
to
recharge
that
battery.
E
If
it's
sitting
for
a
duration,
we
have
a
number
of
these
vehicles
in
our
fleet
right
now,
we
are
seeing
the
benefits
from
it.
We're
very
excited
about
it,
but
pretty
much.
What
we've
seen
is
patrol
vehicles
that
would
otherwise
get
somewhere
between
8
to
12
miles
per
gallon
in
the
city,
they're
realizing
20
miles
per
gallon
from
that
hybrid
engine,
the
other
benefit
are
these
vehicles
are
pursuit
rated
and
equipped
to
be
utilized
as
a
patrol
vehicle.
E
We
have
a
number
of
administrative
vehicles
like
the
ford
fusion
hybrid,
that
we've
been
fielding
since
about
2015
or
16..
So
we
know
the
benefits.
Are
there,
but
what's
great
is
the
platform
exists
for
the
vast
majority
of
the
needs
of
the
patrol
fleet.
C
And
how
long
are
the
batteries
rated
for?
I
know
older
vehicles.
The
batteries
are
rated
for
seven
years.
How
long
are
these
ones
rated
for.
E
Council
rivera-
that
was
one
thing
that
we
went
to
look
into
with
our
fusions
and
from
our
first
batch
of
fusions.
We
got
in
2015-16.
We
have
yet
to
have
to
replace
the
lithium
batteries
in
those
vehicles.
The
battery
that
you
have
in
a
conventional
engine
we've
had
to
replace
those
just
to
wear,
but
for
us
that's
our
big
concern
with
going
to
a
hybrid
vehicle
was
the
need
to
replace
those
batteries.
So
we're
getting
to
a
point
with
that.
E
First
batch
of
hybrids,
where
we're
actually
sync,
where
it's
coming
up
to
the
time
for
replacement
before
we
had
to
replace
the
battery.
So
that's
been
a
good
benefit
for
us,
but
we're
going
to
continue
to
evaluate
it
because
the
admin
vehicles
they
serve
in
the
field
in
a
different
manner
than
our
patrol
vehicles.
So
that's
yet
to
be
seen.
We're
still
looking
to
see
what
the
replacement
schedule
is
going
to
look
like
on
those
batteries,
but
as
of
right
now
we
anticipate
them
lasting
the
entire
service
time
of
that
patrol
vehicle.
E
E
The
two
that
we
have
are
the
non-hybrid
units
that
we
have
and
the
challenge
we
see
with
those
ones
is:
it
doesn't
have
the
space
and
capacity
to
carry
both
the
kennel
for
the
police
service,
dog
and
all
the
other
associated
equipment
with
it.
So
with
a
bigger
platform,
it's
allowed
us
to
do
that.
They
don't
currently
offer
that
platform
in
a
hybrid
platform.
If
not,
we
would
have
explored
that
to
see
if
that
would
have
been
something
we
could
have
done.
E
Accounts
for
bed
of
the
f-250
is
going
to
be
utilized
by
our
animal
services
officers.
Their
fleet
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things
is,
is
probably
the
most
worn
fleet
that
we
have
right
now
their
trucks.
We
have
to
get
the
three-quarter
ton
because
they
need
the
capability
to
be
able
to
pull
a
horse
trailer
that
we
have
in
the
event
someone's
horses
get
loose,
but
also
it
has
a
capacity
for
that
candle
as
well,
so
those
f250s
are
being
utilized
for
animal
services.
Officers.
E
C
All
right,
one
last
question:
the
picture
behind
you
is,
I
think,
one
of
the
police
packages
you
have
now
with
color
of
the
vehicle
and
the
striping
and
all
that
are
these
vehicles
matching.
What's
behind
you
now.
E
Accounts
for
better
that's
a
great
question,
so
the
two
vehicles,
in
my
background
are
our
latest
police
hybrid
utility
vehicles.
So
these
two
that
are
behind
me
are
the
ones
that
we
are
requesting
for
our
patrol
section
in
the
same
color
scheme.
That
is
shown
on
the
background.
C
All
right,
I
have
seen
some
vehicles
out
there
that
have
the
detailing
package
of
the
sticker
package.
That's
all
black
which
matches
the
vehicle,
I'm
not
very
fond
of
those
vehicles.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
what
we're
buying
now
is
going
to
match.
What's
behind
you
today,.
E
And
council
rivera,
I
agree
with
you
on
that-
I'm
not
a
big
fan
of
those,
they
call
them
ghost
graphics.
If
we
have
those
units
out,
there
want
them
to
be
highly
visible.
So,
as
we
get
through
this
year,
we're
finishing
up
the
transition.
We
have
maybe
three
to
five
black
and
white
units.
E
Once
those
decals
are
done,
the
vehicles
with
the
ghost
graphics
we
are
going
to
re-decal
them
with
the
same
color
scheme
you
see
on
these
vehicles,
because
they're
used
for
dui
enforcement
and
traffic
enforcement
want
them
to
be
highly
visible.
We
want
it
to
be
a
deterrent
for
people
to
you
know
not
drive
over
the
speed
limit.
We
wanted
to
be
visible,
so
I'm
not
a
big
fan
of
the
ghost
graphics.
If
it's
a
police
car
and
it's
out
there
doing
its
thing
and
it
has
decals
on
it.
F
A
We
have
a
motion
from
councillor
rivera
second
from
councillor
garcia,
to
approve
the
purchase
of
these
vehicles.
Jennifer.
Can
we
get
a
roll
call.
F
A
A
Yes,
all
right,
so
with
that
we
are
through
our
consent
agenda.
We
have
no
action
items
this
evening.
We
do
have
two
presentations
and
the
first
one
is
a
wild
fire
preparedness
presentation
from
porfirio
chavarria
and
I
believe,
he's
been
promoted.
Yep
there
he
is
and
porfirio
did
you
have
somebody
else
who
was
gonna
be
with
you
tonight
or
are
you
gonna
take
this
on
your
own?
A
G
God,
counselor
romero,
yeah
brian
williams
is
here
and
he
is
going
to
represent
his
slide.
G
A
Terrific-
and
I
just
also
want
to
give
a
quick
shout
out
to
jim
harrington,
with
common
cause,
who
joined
our
meeting
he's
in
the
attendee
room,
and
he
was
here
for
an
item
that
we
passed
on
consent
so
jim
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
thank
you
for
coming
and
we'll
we'll
see
you
at
the
bill's
next
stop
so
brian
with
that,
if
you're
ready,
we're
ready.
H
All
right,
counselors
good
evening,
let
me
do
a
quick
screen
and.
H
I
think
we
can
excellent.
So
as
as
fourth
mentioned,
it's
myself
and
fourf
we'll
be
tag
teaming.
This
presentation,
I'm
going
to
start
with
the
scary
stuff,
since
mr
gloom
and
doom
and
then
porf
is
going
to
work
on
the
wildfire
history
and
some
of
the
things
that
the
fire
department
is
doing
now
and
then,
at
the
end
of
the
presentation,
we've
got
some
suggestions
to
talk
about
and
then
we'll
take
questions.
H
So
wildfire
is
obviously
an
integral
part
of
the
ecology
of
the
southwest,
including
the
santa
fe
area.
We
know
fires
are
going
to
continue
to
occur
with
climate
change.
Expanding
residential
areas
in
the
wilderness,
oil,
land
interface
and
expanding
forest
users
all
will
contribute
to
an
increasing
threat
of
wildfire
in
the
santa
fe
area.
H
H
H
G
Excel
so
fire
history,
just
in
and
around
santa
fe
in
2011
we
had
the
lost
conscious
fire,
156,
000
acres,
and
this
was
across
the
valley
on
the
jemez
mountains
in
2011.
G
At
the
time
it
was
the
largest
fire
in
new
mexico's
history.
At
the
same
time
of
that
fire
in
2011,
we
had
the
pacheco
fire,
which
was
about
10
miles
north
of
the
city.
It
was
about
10,
000
acres
and
a
couple
years
after
that,
in
2013
we
had
the
harosso
fire
and
the
tres
lagunas
fire
each
around
ten
thousand
acres
in
2016
at
the
mcclure
fire,
which
was
seven
acres,
which
is
a
little
deceiving
because
of
how
small
it
is.
G
But
that
was
in
the
watershed.
It
was
in
the
wilderness
portion
of
the
watershed,
just
east
of
mcclure
and
the
reason
it's
only
seven
acres
is
the
the
forest
service
and
first
responders
attacked
that
fire
with
as
fast
as
they
could
that
we
sent
four
hot
shot:
crews
to
it.
That's
four
times:
20,
that's
80
people
plus
about
seven
aircraft
that
dropped.
You
know
and
other
things
on
it
and
kept
it
at
seven
acres.
G
Then,
in
2020
last
year,
in
august
and
september,
which
is
rare
and
not
typical,
but
we
didn't
receive
the
monsoon
rains
that
we're
receiving
this
year
and
we
had
an
acre
4
000,
acre
fire
about
what
five
five
miles
north
of
the
city
certainly
traveling
towards
this
city
and
certainly
has
impacted
those
communities
that
are
downstream
of
that
media
and
tripadero.
G
That
the
significance
of
that
fire
was
that
it's
in
the
pacheco
canyon
project
area
that
the
forest
service
is
conducting
right.
Now,
where
they're
doing
a
fuels
reduction,
project
thinning
it,
making
it
more
resilient
and
in
fact,
one
of
their
500
acre
blocks
that
they
had
burned
with
a
prescribed
fire.
The
previous
fall
helped
them
make
some
of
those
control
lines
and
really
aided
the
incident
management
team
that
arrived
to
make
decisions
on
how
to
corral
that
fire
and
and
aided
their
tactics
and
strategies
that
kept
that
fire
at
4
000
acres.
G
And
then
this
year
in
2021,
we
had
the
the
recon
fire,
which
is
kind
of
on
the
other
side
of
the
main
ridge
of
the
sangre
de
cristos
on
the
pecos
canyon
side,
and
that
fire
was
500
acres.
G
So
I
want
to
kind
of
step
back
a
little
bit,
but
this
is
the
national,
cohesive,
wildland
fire
management
strategy,
that's
kind
of
been
implemented
over
the
last
five
years.
It
stakeholders
include
all
the
federal
agencies,
all
states
and
some
local
governments
in
developing
this
plan
to
address
wildland
fire
and
there's
three
tenets
to
this
resilient
landscapes.
G
G
We
haven't
had
that
frequent
fire,
and
so
we
want
to
make
those
landscapes
back
to
that
resilience
and
so
that
we
can
have
fire
pretty
frequently
through
those
forests
and
not
devastating
fires.
But
you
know
moderate
to
low
intensity
fires.
G
The
other
tenant
is
fire
adapted
communities,
and
this
is
my
main
job
on
a
day-to-day
is
trying
to
create
a
fire
adapted
communities.
That's
a
community
that
is
aware
of
where
they
live
and
knows
that
fire
is
a
natural
process
and
that
is
needed
in
there
is
needed
where
they
live
and
know
that
there's
going
to
be
a
fire
at
some
point
and
are
preparing
for
that
event.
G
They've,
you
know:
they've
prepared
their
landscape,
their
structure
is
hardened
and
ready
to
you
know,
resist
fire
and
that
in
the
event
of
evacuation,
they
are
prepared
to
do
that,
and
these
two
steps
really
lead
to
creating
a
safe
and
effective
wildfire
response.
G
This
wildfire
response
is,
you
know
what
we
do
when
we
have
a
fire
and
how
we
get
there.
I
mentioned
those
aircraft
and
those
hot
shot.
Crews,
just
like
that
here
in
the
city,
we
have
seven
permanent
employees
for
wildland
fire,
we're
hiring
15
seasonals
every
year
and
those
are
all
thanks
to
the
governing
body.
G
Those
have
been
approved
to
be
funded
from
the
general
fund,
and
that
really
helps
us,
though,
when
we
do
get
a
start,
those
resources
can
go
and
attack
that
fire
as
quickly
as
possible
and
reduce
the
amount
of
damage.
It
also
helps
to
make
those
that
response
safer,
so
that
firefighters
don't
need
to
risk
their
lives
in
undue
circumstances
and
and
so
that
they
can
fight
that
fire
safely
and.
G
We
wanted
to
think
in
the
scale
of
a
large
wildland
fire.
You
know
we
saw
what
happened
in
las
conchas,
and
so
this
is
at
that
scale
any
large
wildfire
through
here
we're
certainly
going
to
affect
any
of
the
downstream
communities
from
post-fire
flooding
effects
beyond
just
the
direct
effects
of
the
actual
flames
burning.
G
You
know
vegetation
homes,
all
the
values
that
we
love.
G
Our
next
is
our
mitigation
programs
that
we
provide
for
city
home
residents.
We
have
home
and
property
hazard
assessments,
wildfire
mitigation
agreements,
fire
shatter
fire
shed
ambassadors
and
fuels
reduction
projects
that
we
perform.
G
G
Essentially,
it's
two
big
things:
either
embers
are
going
to
land
around
the
property
around
the
house
and
everywhere,
and
those
could
come
from
as
far
away
as
a
mile
and
a
half
and
as
big
as
the
size
of
your
fist,
and
so
if
they
land
on
something
that
starts
on
fire.
Is
that
going
to
start
your
house
on
fire?
G
So
things
like
wood,
piles,
patio,
furniture,
open
windows,
open
doors,
garage
doors
anywhere
where
amber
could
enter
the
home
is
certainly
a
vulnerability
and
then
also
looking
at
the
vegetation,
because
the
other
second
way
of
fire
is
going
to
reach
your
house?
Is
the
flames
are
going
to
get
all
the
way
to
your
house
and
so
looking
at
the
vegetation
and
breaking
up
the
continuity
so
that
if
a
fire
was
burning
burned,
a
tree
wouldn't
start
the
next
tree
on
the
fire
or
it
won't
get
all
the
way
to
your.
G
We
have
mitigation
agreements
through
our
crew,
that's
been
funded
through
the
city,
those
are
labor
share
and
the
way
those
work
are
we
go
out
there.
We
assess
the
property,
we
come
to
an
agreement
with
the
property
owner
and
in
that
defensible
space
zone,
we'll
cut
the
trees
and
then
the
homeowner
is
responsible
for
removing
all
the
all
the
cut
material,
and
so
that's
been
pretty
successful.
G
Our
fire
ambassador
program-
this
is
a
neighbor
to
neighbor
network,
we're
trying
to
empower
community
leaders
in
those
neighborhoods
to
be
informed
on
wildfire.
What
about
the
risks?
Evacuations
everything
wildfire
so
that
they
can
communicate
that
to
their
neighbors
and
give
them
that
information
and
lots
of
times
more
people
are
more
trusting
from.
Maybe
an
agency
stand
sport,
then
they
are
willing
to
listen
to
their
neighbor
about
how
they
can
best
protect
their
property
and
their
community
from
a
wildfire.
H
Obviously,
the
most
important
thing
is
to
improve
community
awareness
and
to
build
trust
with
the
community,
as
porford
had
pointed
out,
it's
so
important
that
community
members
trust
us
and
and
trust
the
information
that
we're
providing
them
to
help
guide
their
decision
making
in
order
for
them
to
protect
the
most
important
asset
they
have,
which
is
their
home.
H
We
urge
you
to
continue
to
support
forest
health
collaborations,
certainly
urge
the
pursuit
of
efforts
to
reduce
climate
affecting
emissions.
We
urge
to
pursue
water
conservation
efforts.
H
H
H
We
urge
of
any
federal
climate
change,
treaties
and
initiatives
to
support
legislation
regarding
forest
health
and
forest
management
projects,
support
an
amendment
to
the
fire
management
assistance
grant,
which
currently
provides
75
percent
federal
funding
to
state
and
local
governments
for
the
fire
response
and
emergency
management
activities.
H
However,
it
does
not
provide
funding
for
post-fire
flooding,
which,
if
you've
looked
at
the
history
of
fire
here
in
new
mexico,
that's
really
what's
causing
the
disasters
lost
the
conscious
the
little
bear
fire.
All
of
these
fires
had
tremendous
post-fire
flooding
impacts,
of
which
there
wasn't
any
federal
assistance
to
take
emergency
protective
actions
immediately
within
days
after
the
fire
was
suppressed,
and
that
funding
wasn't
available
until
the
fire
became
a
major
disaster,
a
presidential
level
disaster.
H
This
is
critical
to
enable
the
firefighting
community
to
get
a
handle
on
small
fires
to
prevent
them
from
becoming
big
fires,
as
porfirio
had
pointed
out
a
small
fire
of
seven
acres
because
the
assets
and
the
resources
were
here,
they
were
able
to
keep
it
at
seven
acres.
H
H
H
H
The
federal
government
did
offer
a
tax
credit
for
conservation
and
for
fuel
and
and
for
energy
reductions,
including
weatherization
and
those
types
of
things.
It
was
an
incredibly
effective
program
and
I
I
certainly
would
urge
our
federal
legislators
to
consider
legislation
affording
a
tax
credit
for
preparedness
which
could
include
for
wildfire
things
like
chemicals,
which
can
be
spray
fire,
retarding
chemicals
that
can
be
sprayed
on
a
coyote
fence,
fire
retardant
gels,
which
might
be
able
to
be
used
to
protect
your
structure.
H
A
Terrific
brian,
if
you
can
stop
sharing
your
screen,
it
just
helps.
Let's
all
see
each
other
perfect
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
open
it
up
to
questions
from
the
committee
councillor.
C
Rivera
you,
madam
chair,
just
briefly
porf.
Can
you
describe
in
lay
terms
what
is
more
dangerous
to
the
community,
large
fires
that
are
going
from
tree
top
to
tree
top
or
ground
fires
that
are
traveling
on
the
ground?
Slowly
and
maybe
they're
both
just
as
is
dangerous,
but
you
can
you
describe
the
difference
between
the
two
and
which
is
more
dangerous
to
homeowners.
G
Yeah,
certainly
councilor
rivera
members
of
the
committee,
really
it's
that
tree
top
to
tree
top
that
we
call
those
crown
fires
and
is
certainly
going
to
be
more
devastating
than
something
traveling
on
the
surface
on
the
ground.
That
tree
top
to
treetop
makes
it
very
difficult
for
firefighters
and
equipment
to
suppress
a
fire
like
that.
G
There's
really
not
much.
We
just
as
humans
can
do
when
the
tree,
when
the
fire
is
burning
through
the
tops
of
the
trees.
Even
aviation
resources
can
get
out
there
and
put
you
know
retardant
lines
on
those
on
that
area
and
try
and
help
pull
it
back
to
the
ground
from
the
tree
tops,
but
sometimes
they're,
even
limited,
because,
typically,
when
you
have
that
tree
top
to
treetop
ignition
those
crown
fires,
the
winds
are
really
high
and
that
really
limits
the
effectiveness
and
the
use
of
aviation
resources
as
well.
G
Correct
the
density
of
the
trees
makes
it
so
that
you
know
those
trees
can
burn
from
tree
to
tree
to
tree
without
needing
to
be
on
the
ground,
and
so
in
our
recommendations.
My
recommendations
when
we're
out
talking
with
homeowners,
is
to
try
and
keep
trees
10
feet
apart
from
each
other.
G
That's
still
not
going
to
stop
a
tree
from
starting
the
next
tree
on
fire,
but
it
is
going
to
limit
how
fast
it
gets
from
one
tree
to
the
next
tree,
so
one
tree
may
burn
up
and
if
it's
10
feet
apart
from
the
next
one,
it's
gonna
take
a
little
bit
for
that
second
tree
to
start
up
again
and
then
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
rather
than
when
they're
densely
packed,
and
you
can't
even
see
you
know
see
through
the
trees,
then
it's
it's
as
if
it's
just
grass
just
burning
and
they're
just
burning
through
the
tops
of
the
trees,
throwing
embers
creating
a
lot
of
energy
and
making
it
very
difficult
to
to
suppress
that
type
of
fire.
C
So
I
assume,
like
los
conchas
and
pacheco
fire.
Those
were
probably
areas
that
weren't
thinned
out
very
well
that
just
burned
from
tree
top
to
tree
top
is
exactly.
C
G
Yeah
there
was
definitely
an
alignment
of
factors
like
you
said
that
very
dense
forests,
not
a
very
dry
year,
high
winds.
That
year,
I
think
you
know
over
20
miles
an
hour.
Certainly
and
the
vegetation
was
just
very
dry.
It
looked
green
but
it
was
very
dry
and
it
just
burned
from
tree
top
to
tree
drop.
I
mean
that
fire
even
burned
through
the
aspen,
which
typically
doesn't
burn
that
way,
and
it
just
went
through
that
like
it
wasn't,
you
know
lots
of
times
I
use
aspen.
C
So
I
think,
a
great
sort
of
way
to
look
at
what
you're
discussing
is
the
watershed.
So
I
remember
when
I
was
in
the
the
fire
department
went
up.
There
was
very
thick
very
dense
and
I
think
you
and
your
crews,
and
and
teams
and
working
with
other
organizations
have
done
a
great
job
of
doing
some
thinning
out
there,
making
sure
that
trees
were
10
feet
apart
and
making
that
area
a
little
bit
more
healthy
and
resistant
to
fires.
C
G
Certainly
so
the
work
in
the
watershed,
as
you
may
know,
has
been
ongoing
since
about
2000
2001.
I
think
the
forest
service
signed
the
environmental
impact
statement
to
to
perform
the
work
out
there
over
the
next
five
to
six
years.
They
they
did
the
thinning,
cutting,
burning
and
piling
of
material
and
continued
to
to
burn
it
every
year
on
a
broadcast
level,
which
means
you
know:
you're
lighting,
fire
across
the
landscape
and
learning
letting
it
burn
across
the
landscape
and
after
20
years.
G
You
know,
I'm
happy
to
say
that
now
you
can
actually
do
that
and
put
fire
across
the
landscape
in
a
controlled
manner
that
you
know
that
wildfire
resources
are
able
to
manage
and
with
the
continued
support
and
partnership
of
the
city
and
the
governing
body,
the
forest
service
has
continued
to
be
able
to
do
that.
You
know
we.
We
we
have
funded
about
50
of
that
work.
G
That's
that's
been
performed
up
there,
and
and
with
that
that
has
allowed
you
know,
resources
and
firefighters
when
there
is
a
fire
up
there
to
quickly
attack
that
fire
and
you
know
make
it
take
advantage
of
that
work.
That's
already
been
done,
but
the
maclaurin
fire
is
actually
kind
of
unique
is
out,
was
outside
of
that
thinning
project
area,
and
so
what
it?
G
What
that
allowed
was
just
better
access
for
a
moment
until
you
got
into
the
thicker
stuff,
but
that
that
fire
was
actually
in
the
wilderness
section
which
hasn't
been
treated
there
is
a.
There
has
been
an
environmental
assessment
done
from
the
forest
service
side
to
treat
up
there,
but
since
it
is
wilderness,
there's
certain
limitations
on
what
they
can
do,
which
basically
means
that
they
can't
do
anything
with
any
mechanical
equipment.
G
You
can't
really
use
chainsaws
up
there,
you're
not
really
allowed
to
put
any
motorized
vehicles
up
there,
and
so
the
plan
for
up
there
is
to
find
windows
and
with
climate
change.
Those
windows
are
getting
smaller
and
smaller,
but
find
windows
of
time.
When
you
could
put
fire
on
that
landscape
and
use
fire
to
do
the
thinning
for
you
without
having
to
use
chainsaws
similar
to
what
they
did
in
pacheco,
which,
on
the
pacheco
canyon
project,
they
lit
500
acres
up
there
just
this
past
spring,
without
any
initial
thinning
or
or
cutting
they.
C
And
I
I
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
think
in
2000
our
watershed
was
one
of
the
top
10
most
vulnerable
areas.
I
think
that
the
federal
government
had
sort
of
determined
as
a
area
of
need.
Where
are
we
now
with
regards
to
that.
G
You
know
I
I
don't
know
where
we
stand
on,
that,
I'm
sure
we're
considerably
lower
on
that
list.
Just
because
of
the
amount
of
work
that's
gone
up
gone
into
being
up
there.
You
know
the
actual
physical
work
of
cutting
and
burning
and
thinning,
as
well
as
all
the
partnerships
that
have
been
raised
out
of
that
those
events,
you
know
the
watershed
association
was
formed
with
that,
and
other
events
happen.
So
those
are
all
certainly
advantages
from
that
from
that
that
thinning
that's
been
occurring
up
there.
C
All
right,
thank
you
and
just
one
final
question.
You
mentioned
that
during
the
clarifier
they
use
retardant
to
help
deal
with
that
fire
that
again
runs
downstream
and
probably
remnants
of
the
retardant
end
up
in
the
water.
I
assume
in
the
watershed,
can
you
explain?
How
is
that
dangerous
to
the
public?
Is
that
something
we
need
to
be
concerned
about.
G
It
certainly
is-
and
I
know
I've
talked
with
alan
hook
from
the
water
division.
I
know
they're
working
with
the
the
usgs
office
to
assess
that
risk
and
find
out
hey
if,
if
a
fire
burned
up
there,
and
then
we
had
half
an
inch
of
rain,
what
would
that
effect
be
on
on
the
reservoirs
and
on
the
river
channel?
How
much
rain
could
we
expect,
after
a
major
wildfire
to
end
up
compromising
those
dams
up
there
and
causing
them
to
you
know
flood
downtown,
essentially
waterwood.
G
You
know
that
santa
fe
river
coming
down
upper
canyon
that
community
there
there's
certainly
plenty
of
people
that
live
along
the
footplate
in
there
and
then
you
know,
there's
certainly
places
you
know
bridges
and
things
downtown.
It
would
stop.
The
flow
of
water
certainly
get
log
jammed
and
then
that
water
would
have
to
go
somewhere,
which
would
you
know
probably
be
on
the
streets.
G
You
could
see
a
river
coming
down
water
street,
for
example
downtown,
and
so
that's
certainly
something
to
think
about
those
post-fire
debris
flows
like
brian
had
mentioned
earlier,
can,
in
lots
of
cases,
be
more
devastating
than
the
actual
flames.
C
Thank
you
for
that.
My
question
was
more
specific
about
the
retardant
and
new
ending
up
in
the
in
the
reservoir
or
mix
with
the
reservoir
water.
G
I
apologize
counselor
and
fellow
committee
members.
Yes,
the
you
know
that
that
that
can
be
dangerous
to
the
the
water
to
wildlife
in
those
reservoirs.
I'd
have
to
ask
the
water
division
to
understand
to
better
understand
what
that
does
to
filtering
it
out
and
their
processes.
I'm
sure
it's
not
good.
G
I
know
that
the
forest
service
has
worked
on
trying
to
keep
that
retardant
away
from
any
type
of
water
body
at
least
400
feet
away
from
bodies
of
water.
They
do
not
want
to
put
place
unless
it
is
absolutely
necessary
to
to
be
sure
that
you
know
if
the
if
the
value
at
risk
outweighs
that
that
that
possible
contamination.
C
C
I
again
went
up
to
the
watershed
when
it
was
extremely
thick
and
dense
and
I've
seen
it
since
then,
and
it's
it's
just
as
beautiful.
It's
just
not
as
dangerous
as
it
was
before
so
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you've
done
over
the
years
and
that
you
continue
to
do-
and
I
hope
it's
easy
to
find
your
number
and
access
get
access
to
you.
If
people
want
to
do
an
assessment
on
their
properties,
I've
had
some
trouble
getting
through
to
the
fire
department.
C
G
G
955-3119-3119
oftentimes
I'm
not
in
the
office,
but
if,
if
anyone
leaves
a
message
there,
I
get
it
in
my
email
and
I
I
respond
within
the
day.
C
A
Thank
you
counselor.
I
have
a
couple
questions
so
in
supporting
you
in
supporting
the
federal
legislation.
Do
you
go?
Do
you
all
track
that
and
do
you
are
you
on
list
serves
and
do
you
advocate?
I
I
know
periodically.
We
get
asked
from
various
groups,
not
usually
internally
but
outside
groups,
to
sign
letters
in
support
of
federal
legislation
and
they're
trying
to
seek
local
government
support.
A
Do
you
all
come
across
those
opportunities?
I'm
just
wondering
how
you
know
how
we
would
go
about
supporting
you
and
knowing
about
particular
items
that
might
be
coming
forward
and
being
timely
in
lending
our
names
and
to
the
causes.
That
would
help
your
strategic
efforts
in
protecting
the
community.
H
So,
madam
chair
counselors,
we
don't
directly,
I
certainly
don't
get
list
serves
directly
on
specific
legislation
where
I've
personally
been
able
to
leverage
from
my
role
is
within
the
the
specific
community
in
the
at
the
time
was
with
the
state
emergency
management,
where
I
had
an
opportunity
to
meet
face
to
face
with
the
newly
appointed
fema
administrator
brock
long
and
raised
this
very
point
about
post-fire
flooding.
H
Being
this
imminent
threat
immediately
following
fires,
and
the
importance
of
being
able
to
provide
funding
to
communities,
to
cover
the
costs
of
doing
the
kinds
of
things
and
not,
let's
make
sure
we're
not
to
confuse
the
actions
with
mitigation
when
you
have
a
fire
and
you're
facing
post-fire
flooding.
The
kinds
of
things
that
you
need
to
do
are
obviously
to
clear
the
river
channels
of
as
much
debris
so
that
they
don't
create
those
log
jams.
H
In
some
cases
you
might
actually
want
to
remove
a
culvert
to
prevent
the
culvert
from
becoming
an
obstruction.
There
are
opportunities,
obviously,
to
sandbag
structures,
certainly
there's
opportunities
to
protect
utility,
heads
and
wellheads
and
those
types
of
things.
So
there
are
steps
that
can
be
taken
to
ameliorate
at
least
some
of
the
impacts
of
post-fire
flooding.
H
So
from
from
my
chair,
and
probably
the
same
is
true
for
porfirio
and
others
that
are,
in
essence,
worker
bees,
where
we
can
leverage
our
influence
is
within
the
organizations
that
we
have
partnerships
with
and
hope
that
those
those
messages
and
and
those
ideas
make
their
way
further
up
the
food
chain.
H
Well,
there
was,
you
know
they,
they
amended
the
fire
management
assistance
for
him.
I'll
be
honest,
I
think
they
they
missed
the
bullseye,
because
what
they
did
is
they
provided
funding
for
mitigation,
which
happens
typically
a
year
or
18
months
or
two
years
later
you
know
planned
fuel
thinning
rather
than
the
emergency
protective
measures
which
would
be
taken
immediately
and
in
fact,
maybe,
while
the
fire
is
still
burning
so
yeah.
A
Yeah
I
mean
I,
I
had
an
opportunity
to
tour
that
area
after
afterwards
and,
as
I
recall
it,
it
did
have
an
impact
on
the
water
supply
in
that
area,
correct
it
did
the.
H
The
debris
from
the
flood
runoff
contaminated
the
surface
water.
It
forced
the
village
of
rio
del
sol
to
take
some
immediate
steps
to
reconfigure
their
water
distribution.
They.
Actually,
we
used
fema
funding
to
reimburse
them.
They
rehabilitated
some
wells
that
they
had
up
in
the
forest
and
ran
a
pipeline
from
the
wells
down
to
the
water
treatment
plant.
H
They
also
were
drawing
water.
I
don't
know
if
you
went
down,
I
I'm
afraid
I
don't
remember
the
name
of
the
park,
but
it's
right
across
from
the
riodoso
fire
station,
where
they
were
drawing
water.
H
A
Yeah,
that's
what
I
recalled
okay.
Well,
I
think
if
you
come
across
opportunities
where
we
can
be
supportive,
please
let
us
know
absolutely-
and
I
guess
I'll
I'll
look
for
other
ways
to
see
how
those
things
can
be
communicated
so
that
we
so
that
we
could
support
those
efforts
as
as
they
become
available,
counselor
garcia.
Did
you
have
anything
you
wanted
to
add
at
this
point.
D
No
madam
chair,
thank
you,
mr
chabarya
and
mr
williams
for
the
presentation.
I
really
appreciate
it.
A
Right
all
right,
I
don't
think
we
have
any
other
questions.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
being
here
very
helpful
to
give
that
kind
of
big
picture
overview
and
kind
of
not
great
kind
of
scary
right.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
work.
Thank
you
for
being
out
there
working
with
people
as
as
we
start
to
think
about
these
things-
and
I
know
you
guys
have
been
thinking
about
them
for
a
long
time.
So
thank
you
all
right
with
that.
A
We
will
go
on
to
our
next
presentation
we're
going
to
talk
about
data
and
we
have
our
able
constituent
services
liaison
council
liaison,
I
think,
is
your
official
title
right.
Yeah
staff
for
the
quality
of
life
committee
and
you
jennifer
fabian,
are
going
to
give
us
a
presentation
and
I've
lost
my
agenda
about
data.
A
B
No
problem,
thank
you
for
letting
me
present
it's
fun
to
be
part
of
the
meeting,
instead
of
just
running
it
behind
the
scenes.
So
thank
you
so
much
so
I
want
to
introduce
the
santa
fe
data
platform
to
you
all
tonight.
I
think
I've
mentioned
it
to
a
couple
of
you,
but
it's
nice
to
get
in
front
of
a
committee
to
talk
about
this.
So
what
is
the
santa
fe
data
platform?
B
So
this
is
a
one
stop
shop
for
about
two
over
200
metrics,
and
I
want
to
start
by
saying
that
as
city
leaders
as
elected
officials,
there's
in
my
mind
three
main
ways
that
you
can
use
data
and
three
reasons
why
using
data
is
so
important
and
the
first
is
understanding
your
city
understanding
your
constituents,
which
helps
you
understand,
unique
challenges
or
unique
opportunities
that
might
present
itself
within
your
districts
within
your
city
within
our
larger
community.
B
The
second
is
to
execute
on
promises
and
to
get
things
done.
So
when
I
say
this,
I
mean
providing
services
equitably
targeting
services
to
specific
people
or
the
most
in
need
or
at
risk,
and
then
to
identify
problems
and
solve
them.
Both
big
and
small
and
then
the
third
reason
is
to
measure
and
track
success
or
lack
thereof.
So
throughout
this
presentation,
I'm
going
to
kind
of
hit
on
those
things
as
we
talk
about
this
so
kind
of
keep
that
in
the
back
of
your
mind.
B
B
The
group
that
convened-
and
I
will
talk
about
who
that
group
is
in
just
a
minute,
decided
to
go
with
two
different
companies
to
give
us
kind
of
a
suite
of
services
at
a
lower
price
than
we
would
have
with
some
other
options.
So
we
went
with
my
sidewalk
and
sea
source,
so
my
sidewalk
is
a
mix
of
conventional
data
sources,
so
we're
talking
the
census
bureau
of
labor
statistics,
housing
hud.
These
are
publicly
available
data
that
is
usually
very
very
hard
to
get
into
decipher
use.
B
Basically,
when
you
want
to
use
them,
it
is
just
a
massive
spreadsheet
so
and
I
will
show
you
what
this
looks
like.
It
is
not
a
massive
spreadsheet
and
then
c
source
specializes
in
this
new
mobility
data.
So
this
is
using
anonymous
cell
phone
and
other
device
data
to
track
movement
attract
mobility.
So
I
will
show
you
some
examples
of
this.
This
is
really
spurred
on
by
the
tourism
department
wanting
to
see
our
tourism
numbers
who's
coming
in,
where
they're
from
what
they
do
when
they're
here
stuff
like
that.
B
So
how
did
the
platform
come
to
be
so
I
started
out
of
the
thornburg
foundation.
The
project
was
established
over
a
year
ago.
This
has
been
a
long
time
coming
then,
the
santa
fe
community
foundation
joined
on
as
the
fiscal
host
and
cindy
khan
out
of
creative
santa
fe
took
on
project
managing
and
then
they
really
started
building
a
coalition,
and
this
is
when
the
city
of
santa
fe.
B
Corinth,
st
vincent,
who
funded
the
majority
of
the
public
health
dashboard,
and
then
we
also
had
additional
support
from
yellow
southwest
care,
con
elma
healthcare
foundation.
So
it's
really
a
true
public
private
partnership,
it's
government,
it's
non-profit,
it's
foundation
and
it's
public
corporate.
So
it's
really
a
great
example
of
a
true
public-private
partnership
project.
B
So
why
data-driven
policy
I
hit
on
this
a
little
bit
at
the
beginning,
but
thornberg
commissioned
your
research
that
revealed
three
common
problems
faced
specifically
by
policymakers,
so
you
all
and
their
advisors.
Often
we
don't
know
what
works
to
improve
outcomes.
There's
not
a
lot
of
study.
There's
not
a
lot
of
evidence
out.
B
What
actually
improves
outcomes?
Often
you
all!
You
have
other
jobs,
you
have
very
limited
staff.
You
lack
the
capacity
to
undertake
effective,
evidence-based
policy
making
and
then
there's
a
lack
of
objective
sources
out
there
of
evidence
to
inform
the
policy
process.
B
B
B
So
all
the
dashboards
I
want
to
know
were
developed
with
equity
issues
in
mind,
so
wherever
possible,
we
just
aggregated
by
base
by
age,
by
location
by
income
level,
so
that
we
could
see
across
different
demographics
how
these
indicators
are
playing
out.
There's
a
lot
of
overlap
among
the
dashboards,
so
you'll
notice
that
we
don't
have
an
education
dashboard,
for
example,
but
you
will
see
education
indicators
throughout
the
three
dashboards
because
they
kind
of
cross
these
three
different
buckets
of
data
that
we
have
so
the
rest
of
the
presentation.
B
I
am
just
going
to
dig
into
the
platform
itself
and
show
you
some
of
the
data,
how
it
can
be
used
and
really
try
to
highlight
what
makes
this
so
cool
and
why
I
have
enjoyed
working
on
it
so
much
so
this
is
the
home
page,
very
easy!
You
come
in.
You
can
click
right
into
the
dashboards.
Like
I
said,
I'm
just
gonna
jump
right
in
one
thing
I
wanted
to
notice
is
we
have
this
spotlight
section
and
we
change
these
out
every
couple
weeks
usually
based
on.
B
What's
going
on
so
we've
been
talking
about
affordable
housing,
a
lot,
especially
in
this
committee,
so
wanted
to
make
sure
we
highlighted
some
affordable
housing
data.
Obviously,
tourism
and
kobed
has
been
a
huge
issue.
It
has
been
a
huge
problem.
It
has
been
a
huge
undertaking
for
you
all
and
everyone
in
the
world,
but
tourism,
specifically
in
santa
fe.
C
Then
go
ahead.
Can
I
bother
you
real
quick?
So
if
I'm
general
public
and
I
get
on
the
city
of
santa
fe
website,
this
comes
up
as
santa
fe
data
platform.
B
C
B
Yeah,
I
will
talk
to
christine
about
that
with
the
new
build.
Thank
you.
So,
let's
dig
into
it.
So
this
is
on
the
residence
and
visitors
page.
So
just
looking
at
number
of
jobs
in
the
city
by
industry,
you
can
see.
Obviously
we
have
a
huge
amount
of
accommodation
and
food
services
and
let
me
just
highlight
what
we
have
here.
We
have
santa
fe.
B
Purple
throughout
the
dashboards
santa
fe
county
is
in
blue
new
mexico
is
in
green
and
the
us
is
in
this
kind
of
orange,
yellow
color.
So
it's
easy
just
to
come
on
and
look
it's
a
little
bit
interactive.
So
if
you
just
want
to
look
at
santa
fe,
you
can
dim
kind
of
the
rest
easy
to
read
easy
to
see,
and
I
think
this
just
shows
the
diversity
of
our
city.
B
B
The
second
one
I
wanted
to
highlight
is
this
establishments
by
number
of
employees.
We
are
truly
a
city
built
on
small
businesses.
We
have
almost
3
000
small
businesses
and
small
means
one
to
four
employees.
If
you're
looking
at
actually
the
definition
of
small
business,
I
think
it's
under
a
hundred,
it's
many
more
than
that,
so
we
really
are
built
on
entrepreneurs.
B
We
have
a
lot
of
very
innovative
people
that
live
and
work
in
santa
fe,
which
I
think
is
really
really
powerful.
Another
thing
I
want
to
notice,
while
I'm
here
is
this
little
export
button.
So
basically,
what
you
can
do
is
click
this
and
you
can
export
these
graphs
as
a
high
resolution,
png,
svg
or
csv
file,
which
is
great
for
all
of
our
non-profits
for
all
of
our
people.
That
might
want
to
use
these
in
a
report
or
use
these
on
a
social
media
post.
You
can.
B
The
images
themselves
and
the
data
which
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I
noted
for
you
all
another
indicator
that
I
think
just
really
speaks
to
our
our
strength
of
diversity.
Is
our
immigration
and
language
section.
Another
thing
to
note
about
the
dashboard
is
we
have
a
lot
of
narration?
We
have
a
lot
of
narrative
that
explains
the
data
that
talks
about
why
it
matters.
We
wanted
this
to
be
a
data
platform,
but
not
just
data
wonks
or
very
very
data
literate
people
can
use.
B
We
want
this
to
be
something
anybody
can
go
in
piddle
around
find
interesting
tidbits
that
might
help
them.
We
understand
not.
Everybody
works
well
in
graphs,
so
we
try
to
add
in
some
narration
and
some
actual
indicators
written
out
as
as
numbers
essentially,
but
you
can
see,
we
have
a
lot
of
spanish
speaking.
B
We
have
it
broken
out
by
percent
of
language
spoken
at
home,
which
is
pretty
fascinating.
It's
about,
two-thirds
of
our
population
speaks
english
and
the
rest
essentially
speaks
spanish
at
home,
and
then
we
have
a
couple
others,
but
we
also
have
some
interesting
information
on
the
region
of
origin
for
our
foreign-born
residents.
B
Moving
over
to
the
healthcare
dashboard
or
the
public
health
dashboard
excuse
me
looking
at
our
insurance
rate,
people
with
health
insurance,
and
I
really
want
to
point
out
the
mapping
capabilities
that
we
have
in
this
platform.
So
in
this
example,
we
can
see
which
census
block
groups
have
the
most
or
the
least
healthcare
coverage.
So
in
this
map,
red
means
bad,
so
down
here
kind
of
in
district,
three,
only
56
of
the
census
block
has
health
insurance
and
again
this
is
kind
of
getting
at.
Where
are
we
targeting
services?
B
Where
are
we
targeting
messages
when
we're
trying
to
get
people
to
get
vaccinated
or
get
tested
for
covid?
Although
those
things
are
free
and
you
don't
need
health
insurance,
there
might
be
a
correlation
between
people
that
have
health
insurance
and
people
that
would
be
willing
to
go.
Do
that
or
that
might
trust
health
facilities
and
health
care
providers.
B
So
I
think
the
mapping
capabilities
are
really
really
fascinating
and
one
of
the
strengths
of
this
platform
in
relation
to
others
or
when
you're
just
looking
at
this
data
in
a
spreadsheet
another
that,
I
think
is
really
fascinating,
especially
in
santa
fe,
is
the
seniors
living
alone.
B
This
is
a
statistics
that
I
don't
think
a
lot
of
people
know
exists,
but
I
think
it
is
very,
very
fascinating,
especially
when
you
zoom
in
to
our
population
here,
and
we
have
a
couple
neighborhoods,
sorry,
where
we
have
almost
50
of
our
population,
our
seniors
living
alone
in
kind
of
these
east
side,
neighborhoods
and
then
even
down
here,
44.
B
We
have
a
couple
disconnected
youth
statistics
about
people
in
school
and
not
in
school,
and
we
are
looking
to
expand
on
our
education
data
and
maybe
possibly
build
out
a
standalone
platform,
but
that
is
forthcoming
on
to
affordable
housing.
So
this
one
is
interesting
in
that
it
has
been
a
hot
topic
for
a
long
time
in
santa
fe.
B
Now
we're
looking
at
the
the
number
of
renters
paying
more
than
30
percent
of
their
income
on
housing.
We
have
renters
and
owners.
You
can
see
those
numbers
are
drastically
different,
but
it
is
interesting
to
look
at
our
numbers
compared
to
the
county,
new
mexico
and
united
states
as
a
whole.
This
is
a
problem
everywhere.
This
is
not
a
uniquely
santa
fe
problem
but
interesting
to
note
again
we
have
mapping.
We
have
some
maps
of
where
we
have
some
low
income,
tax,
credit
properties
and
qualifications.
B
B
This,
I
think,
is
the
map
of
the
hour,
so
we
have
2019
2020
and
2021
tourism
data
looking
at
where
our
tourism
numbers
are-
and
this
is
updated
through
june-
there's
about
an
eight
day
lag
at
the
end
of
the
month.
B
Where
we
get
this,
so
we
should
be
getting
july's
numbers
in
just
a
couple
of
days,
but
you
can
see
we're
doing
better
than
last
year,
but
we
are
not
quite
up
to
our
2019
levels,
yet
so,
looking
at
our
recovery
looking
at
how
we're
going
to
come
out
of
this,
hopefully
this
does
not
dip
down
again
because
of
delta,
so
we
are
maintaining
and
watching
this,
and
this
is
something
that
we
get
from
that
c
source
data,
so
this
is
coming
in
faster.
A
lot
of
the
census.
B
Data
takes
a
lot
of
time.
We
still
haven't
gotten
2020
numbers
yet,
but
the
c
source
data
is
pretty
much
in
real
time,
so
we
can
look
and
see
what
people
are
doing.
Another
thing,
I
think,
is
really
great
about
our
c-source
data.
Is
we
can
see
where
people
are
coming
from?
So
let's
see
this
map,
I
think,
is
what
really
sold
the
team.
B
To
me
joining
on
c-source,
so
basically
the
size
of
the
the
bubbles
represent
the
the
number
of
visitors
from
that
county.
So
we
can
see
where
we're
pulling
people
in
from
this
is
really
helpful
for
hotels.
B
Marketing
their
services
or
for
meow
wolf:
where
are
they
going
to
target?
We
have
a
lot
of
northern
coloradans
coming
down.
We
have
a
lot
from
southern
california,
so
looking
at
marketing
and
looking
at
tailoring
services
to
people
is
really
really
great.
How
do
they
know
this,
so
this
is
using
basically
anonymous
cell
phone
data.
B
And
so
we're
able
to
collect
that
it's
100
anonymous,
we
don't
know
who
these
people
are
and
we
can
just
see
basically
where
they're
coming
from.
We
only
have
this
in
the
u.s.
We
don't
have
this
from
abroad.
B
G
B
Oh
internet
is
slow,
but
I
think
you
can
see
it
even
though
it's
loading
looking
at
our
unemployment
rate.
This
is
pretty
updated.
We
have
it
through
basically
now
through
through
early
this
year,
but
you
can
basically
see
our
unemployment
rate
was
fairly
low,
jumped
up
because
of
kovid
here's
our
first
spike,
here's
our
second
spike
and
then
we're
starting
to
recover.
You
can
see
our
recovery
coming
down.
This
is
the
first
time
I
have
seen
this
little
dip
up,
so
hopefully
that
will
flatten
out
again
but
again
looking
at
recovery.
B
Looking
at
kobe,
looking
at
coming
out
of
this
pandemic
related
to
the
pandemic
and
mental
health,
we
can
see
how
our
drug
overdoses
are
doing
in
our
mental
health
days.
So
we
have
a
it's
a
self-reported
metric,
but
it's
one
used
pretty
widely
and
it's
mentally
unhealthy
days
in
the
past
month,
and
you
can
see
our
numbers
fluctuate
differently
than
the
counties
which
isn't
a
bad
or
a
good
thing,
but
it
does
prompt
some
questions
and
something
that
I
think
this
platform
does
really
well.
B
Is
that
it
might
not
answer
all
the
questions
it
might
actually
bring
up.
More
questions
of
the
answers,
because
you
you
see
this
stuff
and
you
just
want
to
know
why.
Why
is
this
happening?
Why
are
we
different?
How
can
we
address
this?
Something
I
also
wanted
to
point
out.
Is
we
have
depression
by
income
and
employment?
B
So
again,
when
we're
looking
at
recovery
and
our
economic
recovery
from
covid,
when
you're
unable
to
work,
if
you've
been
out
of
work
for
a
year,
your
depression
rates
are
a
lot
higher
than
if
you
were
employed
or
retired,
or
a
student
or
otherwise.
B
B
A
couple
more,
I
want
to
show
you,
I'm
sorry,
there's
so
much
to
do,
and
I
am
barely
scratching
the
surface
here
and
just
want
to
put
out
there
I'm
happy
to
go
through
this
in
more
detail.
If
you
have
specific
things,
you
want
to
look
at
offline
or
you
know
in
another
training.
B
So
I
wanted
to
show
you
our
back
or
our
coveted
cases.
You
can
see
it's
our
20
to
50
year
olds
that
are
our
biggest
spreaders.
They
are
the
people
getting
covered
the
most
and
although
they
aren't
the
most
at
risk,
they
are
the
ones
that
are
getting
it
and
spreading
it.
And
then
I
want
to
show
you
our
vaccination
data
by
age
group
and
it
basically
shows
that
those
are
also
the
people
that
are
not
vaccinated.
B
So
the
16
17
24
to
40
are
kind
of
our
lowest
vaccination
rates.
You
can't
really
count
12
to
15
because
it
just
opened
up
for
them,
but
so
targeting
our
messaging.
How
do
we
get
these
people
to
get
the
vaccine,
so
we
can
be
safe
as
a
community.
We
do
a
really
good
job
with
our
65
plus,
because
that's
who
we,
those
are
that's
our
biggest
at
risk.
They
are
dying
at
the
highest
rates
when
they
do
contract
covid.
So
again,
I
think
it's
an
interesting
story.
A
B
The
data
is
very
much
objective.
There
is
no
angle
here.
All
of
the
questions.
All
of
the
data
that
is
presented
here
was
decided
on
by
that
group
of
partners,
so
they
basically
sat
down
outlined.
What
questions
do
we
want
answered?
You
know
which
data
do
we
want
to
present
and
how
so
they're?
Really
the
data
is
neutral,
but
how
you
use
it
can
not
be
so
if
you
see
anything
that
looks
fishy,
please
let
us
know
we
want
this
to
be
100,
an
accountability
tool
and
a
tool
for
transparency
as
well.
B
The
last
thing
I
wanted
to
show
you
all
specifically
is
that
we
have
district
geo
boundaries,
basically
geo
fences,
so
we
can
pull
almost
all
of
this
data
by
district,
so
we
can
look
at
each
district's
population,
your
median
age,
how
each
district
is
growing
or
not
your
household
size,
race
and
ethnicity,
and
you've
seen
this
before.
I
sent
this
to
you
a
very
long
time
ago,
but
we
have
launched
the
the
full
data
platform
in
the
meantime
and
I
think,
have
gotten
a
couple
more
indicators
from
here.
B
A
B
Dig
into
your
specific
constituency,
which
I
think
is
really
powerful
and
again
happy
to
pull
any
information.
You
need
we're
here
as
a
resource
I'm
here
to
help
you
obviously
that's
my
role.
B
All
form
policy,
so
that
is
all
I
wanted
to
show
you
that's
it.
It
wasn't
a
lot
or
anything.
So
I
will
open
it
up
for
questions.
We're
happy
to
show
you
anything
else
that
you
might
have
had
a
question
on.
A
Great
my
unmuted,
yes,
that
I
have
been
wanting
to
hear
more
about
this,
see
some
of
that.
So
I
I
really
appreciate
you
walking
us
through,
even
if
it
was
just
scratching
the
surface.
I
do
have
a
couple
questions,
but
I'm
gonna
go
to
the
committee.
If
there
are
questions
from
the
committee.
A
And
oops
gotta.
Why?
Okay,
sorry,
I
don't
know
why
my
hand
thing
isn't
working
tonight
so
counselor
rivera.
I
think
you
have
a
question
council
garcia.
I
think
you
have
a
question.
So
let's
go
with
counselor
rivera.
I
don't.
I
can't
see
who
was
first.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
jennifer
for
doing
this.
I
was
trying
to
follow
you
on
santa
fe
data.org
and
was
able
to
do
so
fairly
easily.
C
But
when
I
looked
at
the
city
of
santa
fe
website
and
then
tried
to
put
in
santa
fe
data
platform
or
satinfa
dataplatform.org,
it
didn't
bring
it
up,
it
didn't
bring
up
anything.
So
I
think
that's
one
thing
we
need
to.
We
need
to
fix
and
if
you
need
help
doing
that,
let
me
know.
C
The
rest
of
the
data
you're
right
it
would
take.
It
takes
a
while
to
go
through,
but
it's
all
a
very
valuable,
very
well
thought
out
data,
and
you
know
once
I
start
looking
at
it
and
going
through
it
I'll.
Let
you
know
if
I
see
anything,
that's
a
little
bit
weird.
What
I
did
just
have
a
quick
question
on
was
one
of
the
last
slides
you
showed
was
the
the
districts
yeah.
B
B
B
Just
because
most
people
don't
think
in
districts
that
is
unique
to
you
all,
and
I
bet
what
you
were
looking
at.
Is
this
and
that's?
Alright,
that's
hispanic
population,
regular
population.
C
Yeah,
that's
what
I
thought
and
really
district
district
3
currently
ends
at
hemis,
road,
okay,
which
is
a
little
bit
over,
and
I
think
part
of
the
northern
part
of
district
three,
which
includes
the
los
angeles
and
energy,
is
part
of
district
four
and
all
this
is
going
to
change
once
we
get
census
data
so
yeah.
B
Fairly
easy,
so
this
is
bill.
This
is
one
of
our
own
geofences
that
we
built
into
my
sidewalk,
so
I
will
just
have
to
get
with.
I
think
it
was
our
our
data
intern
out
of
economic
development,
carl
he
can
go
in
and
change
that
boundary
so
I'll
get
an
updated
map.
I
don't
know
when
this
one
was
created
and
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
catch
that.
C
Okay
and
great-
and
you
know
clearly,
you
have
talents
that
are
very
valuable.
So
if
you
were
gone
in
the
next
two
weeks,
who
would
be
available
to
update
the
information
and
make
sure
that
it
all
stays
current
and
up
to
speed.
B
So
we
have
a
couple
people
that
work
in
this
system
a
couple.
People
in
land
use
work
in
my
sidewalk,
but
your
main
contact
would
probably
be
carl.
I
think
his
last
name
is
gammon
and
I
can
get
you
his
info.
B
He
just
signed
a
new
contract
he's
in
school
currently,
but
is
available
to
update
the
data
and
then
rich
brown.
This
is
really
living
in
his
department.
He.
A
B
The
one
that
worked
with
randy
randall
to
fund
a
lot
of
this-
they
were
the
city
kind
of
leaders
on
this,
so
rich
brown
would
also
be
a
lead
on
this.
C
Yeah,
I
really
do
appreciate
it.
This
is
great
work
and
will
be
extremely
valuable,
like
I
said,
if
you
need
help
getting
it
onto
the
main
city
webpage.
Just
let
us
know
how
we
can
do
that.
B
Sure-
and
I
also
just
want
to
note
that
we
can
pull
specific
reports
on
specific
issues.
So
if
you're
passing
you
know
a
new
resolution
on
affordable
housing,
I
can
pull
a
report
specifically
on
that
you
can
slap
it
into
the
packet.
We
can
include
it
in
the
memo
stuff
like
that.
So
if
you're
working
on
food
security
there's
a
lot
of
information
on
that,
if
you're
working
on
aging
in
place,
topics
happy
to
pull
in
kind
of
specific
reports
on
what
you
guys
are
working
on.
C
And
one
final
thing
with
being
the
co-chair
of
the
health
and
safety
task
force
and
then
seeing
what
charts
gonna
be
doing
soon.
I
think,
with
the
community
dialogue
is
that
information
readily
transferable
into
this
data
platform.
B
C
So
if
we
send
out
a
a
survey,
I
guess
on
what
chart
might
be
asking
about
or
what
health
and
safety
task
force
might
excuse
me
you
might
be
asking
about.
Could
that
data
then
be
put
into
the
platform
and.
B
Yeah
absolutely,
and
so
I
think,
what
we're
planning
on
doing
and
my
vision
for
the
platform
is
to
kind
of
be
a
one-stop
shop
for
all
city
data.
We
are
looking
at
some
companion
dashboards,
not
sure
if
they
will
live
on
the
same
website,
but
we
can
certainly
cross
reference.
I
call
them
sister,
dashboards
or
companion
platforms,
but
been
talking
with
neil
denton
on
a
sustainability
platform.
B
B
We
have
a
whole
page
on
the
home
page
of
the
platform
that
references
other
data
sources,
so
we
are
definitely
in
the
business
of
collaboration
we
want
to
share.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
water
and
river
data.
We
have
a
lot
of
other
people
that
have
done
great
work
around
data.
We
link
to
their
pages,
we're
not
trying
to
monopolize
this.
B
It's
very
much
a
collaboration,
so
I
know
there's
some
data
out
of
connect,
we're
hoping
to
highlight
that
on
the
on
the
platform
as
well,
so
yeah
anything
that
comes
out
in
these
surveys.
We
definitely
want
this
to
be
a
one-stop
shop.
D
B
Out
there
we
want
to
include
it,
we
can
work
on
that
and
then
again
very
happy
to
link
to
highlight
shout.
B
That
people
in
the
city
are
doing
and
around.
B
As
well,
we
have
we've
linked
the
santa
fe
data
hub,
which
is
an
older,
more
education,
focused
data
platform,
again
not
looking
to
monopolize
this
just
trying
to
create
a
very
accessible
tool
for
the
community
to
use.
D
Well,
I
mean
this
is
a
great
tool
for
us
and
I
think
it
helps
us
to
make
those
smart
data-driven
decisions
that
we
all
like
to
make,
and
I
definitely
see
myself
here
digging
into
this.
Definitely
tonight,
I'm
I
love
reviewing
data,
so
I'm
bookmarking
this
page,
and
I
think
this
is
one
that
is
going
to
be
very
much
used,
and
so
just
thank
you
so
much
to
you
and
everybody
else-
that's
gone
into
this
project.
D
It's
going
to
be
a
great
resource
for
us,
no
question
or.
A
Other
questions,
madam
chair,
thank
you
so
just
to
piggyback
on
councillor
garcia's
question
about.
Can
we
add
stuff?
So
you
said
people
your
team
or
the
team,
asked
particular
questions,
and
then
you
sought
the
data
to
answer
those.
So
if
we
had
a
question,
we
could
ask
that
question
and
you
could
see
if
the
data
is
available
to
populate
and
answer
the
question.
Okay,
yeah
and
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
the
the
percentage
of
people
who
are
vaccinated.
A
Is
it
possible
to
overlay
data
so
just
to
understand
what
percentage
of
the
population
is
in
each
of
those
age
groups?
I
I
kind
of
think
would
be
interesting,
so,
like
percent
of
total
population.
B
A
B
It's
certainly
possible,
and
I
think
that
brings
up
a
great
point.
Is
we
presented
the
data
as
cleanly
as
we
thought
possible
and
as
obvious
as
you
would
think,
you
know,
you'll
get
a
graph,
that's
percent
of
the
population
vaccinated.
B
You
know
we
put
it
out
the
way
that
was
kind
of
the
most
intuitive,
but
there's
certainly
other
ways
to
look
at
data,
and
there
are
certainly
other
ways
to
look
at
this
information.
So
I
think
that
type
of
inquiry
is
something
we
could
certainly
do
on
the
back
end.
If
you
wanted
to
see
that
could
certainly
run
the
numbers
a
different
way
or
display
the
numbers
in
a
different
way,
just
aggregated
by
a
different
population
and
show
something
more
insightful
or
differently
insightful.
B
So
I
think
that's
a
great
point
and
again
this
is
living
and
breathing
so
happy
to
make
those
adjustments
as
we
go.
Another
thing
to
note
is
that
the
sentence
data
is
updated
automatically
as
soon
as
those
numbers
come
out.
This
whole
dashboard
will
update.
We
don't
have
to
manually,
go
in
and
add
a
year
or
10
years.
It
is
all
automated.
My
sidewalk
does
that
for
us
so
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
these
numbers
are
always
as
updated
as
possible.
B
A
Okay
and
remind
me,
c-source
is
s-e-a
or
s-e-e
s-e-e
s-e-e,
okay,
and
that
would
make
sense,
but
just
checking,
because
sometimes
people
try
to
get
really
clever
with
the
name.
And
then
you
know
I
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
about
the
districts.
I
you
know,
I
didn't
can't
tell
whether
district
2
looks
the
way
it
should,
but
it
concerns
me
that
district
3
caught
the
eye
of
councillor
rivera.
A
So
maybe
if
you
could
just
check
all
the
districts
and
the
reason
I
asked,
that
is
that
it
might
depend
on
which
district
maps
the
intern
used
and
I'll
just
tell
you
a
story
that
when
I
ran
the
first
time
I
knocked
on
doors
in
a
particular
neighborhood
and
they
swore
they
were
represented
by
a
different
counselor
and
it's
because
the
boundaries
had
changed.
So
I
just
wonder
if
if,
if
we've
used
the
most
up-to-date
district
map
and
for
a
while,
we
had
the
wrong
district
map
on
our
website.
A
So
yeah
don't
know
when
that
was
done.
But
it
just
concerns
me
that
and
it
I
and
I
think
it
is
an
important
thing.
So
I
would
just
ask
that
you
check
all
the
districts
and.
A
That
they're
accurate,
accurately
reflected
and
honestly
corrected
as
soon
as
possible,
just
because
it
is
important
so
councillor
rivera
your
hands
up
again.
C
Yeah,
thank
you
jen.
I
don't
know
if
you're
planning,
on
making
this
presentation
to
other
committees,
but
I
would
welcome
it
at
public
works
and
utilities.
C
B
Yeah
happy
too,
and
hopefully
we
could
get
some
other
team
members
to
join
sadie
khan
and
heather.
Balas
usually
do
this
presentation
with
me,
but
they
were
busy
this
after
this
evening.
So
it's
great
to
hear
their
perspective
because
they've
been.
B
C
A
Thanks
terrific,
well,
thank
you.
You,
as
usual,
are
helping
us
in
many
ways
and
I'm
I'm
thrilled
that
we
were
able
to
to
dive
into
this
and
look
forward
to
using
it
because
I,
as
has
already
been
said,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
very
useful.
So
look
forward
to
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
A
No
matters
from
the
committee
matters
from
the
chair.
Our
next
meeting
is
wednesday
august
18th
and
look
forward
to
seeing
you
then,
but
I
know
we'll
see
each
other
before
so.
Thank
you
thanks
everyone
good
night,
madam.
A
C
One
last
thing:
yep,
you
know
so
my
family
and
I
were
planning
a
trip
to
the
zoo
today
and
I
looked
on
my
phone
real,
quick
at
the
calendar
and
I
didn't
see
any
meetings
for
today.
So
I
think
I
called
you
and
let
you
know
that
there
wasn't
anything
on
the
calendar
for
with
regards
to
quality
of
life
committee
meeting
today.
So
if
we
can
get
those
out
as
quickly
as
as
possible,
so
that
you
know
at
least
they're
they're
on
the
calendar.
C
So
when
we
start
looking
planning
our
days,
planning
whatever's
going
on
that
at.
C
C
Yeah
I
was
looking
at
my
phone,
the
outlook
calendar,
which
is
where
the
zoo
meetings
usually
pop
up,
and
it
wasn't
there.
So
you
know
I
started
you
know
I.
It
took
me
a
few
minutes
to
try
to
figure
out
that
hey
we,
we
probably
have
a
quality
of
life
community.
B
And
I'm
sure
I
can
address
that.
Okay,
please
counselor!
Very
you
are
correct.
The
outlet
calendar
went
out
late.
That
was
an
error
on
my
part,
usually
joe
schedules
them
out
in
advanced
and
that
had
expired.
B
I
think
he
had
them
six
months
out,
so
I
will
get
joe
to
schedule
them
out
for
the
rest
of
the
year,
hopefully,
and
then
just
get
them
on
your
calendars
now,
so
that
it's
there.
So
I
apologize
that
that
didn't
get
out
to
everybody
until
this
morning,
yeah
no.
C
Worries
it
wasn't
a
big
deal.
Just
you
know
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
it's
there
before
I
plan
something
or
do
something
else.
A
C
A
A
Yeah,
no
often
hot
for
sure
all
right
yeah.
I
was
just
confused
about
how
that
works.
So
thank
you
for
councillor
rivera
for
flagging
it
and
thank
you
jennifer
for
for
identifying
the
problem,
so
we
can
fix
it.
Okay,
so
with
that.