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A
You're
on
counselor,
thank
you
all
right
at
five
o'clock
501.
We
will
call
the
july
21st
meeting
of
the
quality
of
life
committee
to
order
and
if
we
could
get
a
roll
call
vote,
please
of
course,
counselor.
A
I
am
here:
if
we
do,
we
have,
we
do
have
changes
to
the
agenda.
B
Jennifer
you
want
to,
we
do
yes,
we
need
to
remove
item
6g
from
the
agenda
due
to
incomplete
and
late
packet
materials.
Okay,
other
changes.
A
A
C
C
A
Yes,
sorry,
the
screen
on
my
ipad
is
so
dark.
I
can
hardly
see
this
well
from
there
move
to
the
consent
agenda.
Are
there
items?
The
committee
would
like
to
hear
tonight.
A
Motioned
by
councillor
cassette
second,
by
councillor,
rivera
to
approve
the
consent
agenda
as
amended
if
we
could
have
a
roll
call.
Please.
C
D
B
A
Chair,
we
skipped
approval
of
minutes.
Oh
yes,
we
did.
Are
there
changes
to
the
minutes
from
staff
or
the
committee
we've
noticed
a
motion
move
to
approve.
A
D
D
A
Yes,
so
with
that,
we'll
go
to
the
two
items
that
we've
pulled
from
consent:
item
d:
request
for
approval
of
fiscal
year;
2022
grant
contract
in
the
total
amount
of
eighty
one
thousand
nine
hundred
two
dollars
for
the
foster,
grandparent
and
retired
senior
volunteer
programs
corporation
for
national
and
community
service
council
for
garcia.
D
A
Okay,
we
will
come
find
you
as
soon
as
we're
done
are
the
is
there
discussion
from
the
committee.
A
Second,
we
have
a
motion
from
councillor
cassette
of
second
by
a
councilwoman
villarreal.
To
approve
this
item.
Can
we
get
a
roll
call?
Please.
A
All
right,
if
we
text
counselor
garcia,
we'll
we'll
stand
in
place.
I
just
texted
him:
okay,
terrific,
we'll
just
wait
for
him
to
rejoin
before
we
go
to
item
f.
A
All
right
welcome
back.
We
will
now
go
to
item
for
resolution
authorizing
the
cons.
A
Consumption
of
alcohol
during
a
wine
tasting
event
produced
by
the
santa
fe
wine
and
chili
fiesta,
a
non-profit
organization
on
city
property
during
a
friday
in
september
for
the
years
2021
through
2024-
and
we
have-
I
guess,
jessie
is
staffing,
this
item
and
councilwoman
villarreal.
You
pulled
it.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
I
thought
you
were
going
to
say.
A
E
It's
all
good.
I
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
couple
questions,
and
hopefully
jesse
can
answer
them.
I
hope
so,
but
I'm
supportive
of
this
change.
I
just
wanted
to
understand
better
about
what
some
of
the
precautionary
and
safety
measures
the
folks
from
the
wine
and
chili
fest
will
be
putting
in
place
for
this
year's
event,
since
they
weren't
able
to
hold
it
last
year
due
to
coco
and
if
you
could
just
describe
maybe
some
of
the
safety
measures
for
us.
F
Madam
chair
and
councilwoman
any
the
wine
and
chili
sorry,
I
just
ran
up
the
stairs
I'll
have
to
adhere
to
all
of
the
restrictions
that
are
in
code.
So
I'm
pulling
that
up
right
now.
F
Let
me
see
if
I
can
see
exactly
where
it
is
so
it's
in
23-6.3
b7
in
case
you
care
regarding
tasting
events.
So
there
are
certain
requirements
and
I
can
go
through
them
individually,
but
it's
b1ab
23-6.3
b,
one
a
b,
two
three
five
and
six
above
so
I
can.
If
you'd
like,
I
can
spell
those
out-
and
it
says
no
alcohol
will
be
offered
for
sale,
which
is
true
of
this.
E
You
want
specifically
not
so
much
about
like
how
they
control
the
consumption
of
alcohol,
because
I
think
we
have
those
in
place
for
all
of
our
events
that
are
on
city
property.
I
was
curious
if
they
were
going
to
change
the
way
they
do.
Their
events
do
because
of
covid
if
they
had
anything
specific
that
they
were
doing
differently
other
than
the
fact
that
they're
gonna
have
two
different
days
so
that
they
can
have
less
people
each
day.
But
are
there
any
other
precautionary
measures
or
safety
measures
they're
putting
in
place?
E
F
I
can
I
have
haven't,
had
a
chance
to
talk
to
hal
leonard
who's,
the
president
of
wine
and
chili
about
any
of
that.
Specifically
transportation
will
be
offered,
and
I
I
don't
think
that
there's
any
parking
on
siting
unless
you
buy
one
of
the
essentially
the
vip
tickets
that
aspen
aspen
terrace.
I
think
so.
F
I
can
ask
him
more
about
if
they're
gonna,
what
precautionary
measures
they're
going
to
have,
as
you
mentioned,
they're,
going
to
have
two
events
and
then
ticket
less
per
event,
so
that
there
it
is
more
spread
out
between
the
people.
That
is
the
extent
of
what
I
know
in
terms
of
of
spacing.
E
Okay,
so
maybe
if
you
can
get
back
to,
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
cares
about
this,
I
do.
I
just
want
to
know
what
they're
doing
differently
to
you
know,
even
with
the
the
serving
of
alcohol
and
how
they're
setting
up
the
tastings
and
any
other
thing
we
should
know
about
that's
different
from
the
last
iteration
or
the
last
version
of
what
they
used
to
do
before
they
moved
or
are
going
to
be
using
fort
marcy.
E
They're
taking
and
I
did
go
on
the
website-
it
didn't
say
anything
about
it,
so
if
you
can
find
that
out
and
then
just
kind
of
the
flow
of
pick
up
and
drop
off
and
where
that's
going
to
occur
on
fort
marcy
or
near
fort
marcy-
and
I
think
that's
it
regarding
those-
and
I
think
you
and
I
were
discussing
this
so
if
anything
were
to
go
awry
which
we
hope
will
not.
This
is
a
four-year
contract.
E
So,
if
what's
the
procedure,
if
we
were
to,
we
were
needing
to
withdraw
this
use
of
fort
marcy,
what
would
be
the
process
in
the
in
the
next
years?
Not
this
year,
but.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
councilwoman.
So
the
event
for
saturday
had
previously
been
approved
in
2019
by
the
governing
body.
So
and
then
this
is
separate
for
a
friday.
F
So
if
something
you
know
major
goes
wrong
and
the
governing
body
decides
that
they
don't
want
the
event
to
be
held
at
fort
marcy
or
major
majors
field
in
the
future
they
can
vote
to
to
rescind
both
of
those
resolutions
that
would
apply
just
to
the
one
just
to
the
grand
tasting,
because
that's
that's
the
the
part
that
the
governing
body
approved
any
permits
required
for
any
of
the
other
events
that
are
on
public
property.
F
I
think
that
might
be
administrative,
although
aaron
would
have
to
confirm
that
okay
and
then
in
regards
to
just
going
back
to
the
transportation,
exhibit
b
on
the
packet
shows
a
draft
layout
of
how
it's
going
to
look
and
you'll
see
that
what
is
the
that
main
parking
lot
in
front
of
the
interest
fort
mercy
right
now
is
labeled
as
the
bus
turnaround.
So
I
would
imagine
they
would
come
in
that.
Come
in
the
main
entrance.
F
E
Okay,
somehow
I
missed
this
visual,
so
I'll
take
a
look
at
this,
but
if
they
yeah
they
could
just,
I
think
it
says
I
don't
know
where
they're
picking
up.
I
think
I
read
online.
They
were
picking
up
at
the.
I
don't
know
if
it
was
a
convention
center
or
at
the
tourism
department
at
the
pera
parking
lot.
So
if
you
could
just
verify
that
and
like
what
that,
if
they
could
provide
us
with
that
additional
information,
so
I
know
especially
if
I
get
questions
from
constituents.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
get.
I
do
I'm
very
interested
in
info
that
councilwoman
bia
real
was
asking.
So
if
you
wouldn't
mind
sending
that
to
the
entire
committee,
that'd
be
great
jesse.
Do
you
know
what
type
of
community
meetings
they
they've
had
with
the
neighborhood?
You
know,
for
example,
the
kiwanis
are
meeting
with
they're
having
their
neighborhood
meeting
tonight.
D
I'm
not
saying
it.
This
potential
event
is
on
par
with
zozobra,
but
I'm
assuming
it
still
will
impact
the
neighborhood
in
some
way,
shape
or
form
and
with,
given
that
we
are
given
the
authorization
to
extend
it
by
another
day.
I
think
we
need
to
be
responsive
to
the
constituent's
needs
and
ensure
that
we're
not
being
prohibited.
You
know,
for
example,
when
we
hold
zozobra
folks
that
live
in
that
neighborhood
are
pretty
much.
They
can't
leave
their
their
house
after
5
p.m.
So
what
type
of
restrictions
might
be
on?
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
counselor.
I
don't
know
of
any
community
meetings
that
have
taken
place.
I
can
again
that's
something
I
can
inquire
to,
but
there
are
no
street
closures
that
will
impact
the
public.
The
only
street
that's
gonna,
be
blocked
off.
Is
that
entrance
to
fort
marshy?
So
there
is
no
access.
There
aren't
going
to
be
any
access
issues
to
residents
of
that
neighborhood.
I
believe
there,
I
think,
there's
a
area
for
a
bandstand,
so
there
will
be
some
music
playing,
but,
unlike
zozobra,
this
is
not.
F
You
know
it's
not
going
to
go
until
10
11
o'clock
at
night.
It's
going
to
be
from,
I
think,
12
to
3,
or
something
like
that.
So
it's
it's
in
the
middle
of
the
day.
D
Okay,
great,
thank
you,
jesse!
No
other
questions,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
rivera.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
jesse.
This
refers
to
both
fort
marcy
and
majors
field,
and
the
the
plan
layout
is
only
for
majors
field
that,
by
saying
both,
it
doesn't
give
them
the
ability
to
on
some
friday,
maybe
next
year
to
utilize
both
both
parks.
Does
it.
F
I
think
by
the
well-
and
I
apologize-
maybe
I
should
have
changed
it,
because
when
this
wh,
when
the
one
for
saturday
was
adopted
a
couple
years
ago,
there
was
discussion
at
council
that
was
the
it
was
probably
going
to
be
a
major
field
and
of
course
it
is
at
majors
field.
So
maybe
I
should
have
taken
off
fort
marcy,
but
that's
what
was
in
the
saturday
resolution.
So
I
I
worked
off
of
that
one.
F
I
guess
that's
a
question
that
we
can
pass
them,
although
I
think
it
also
comes
down
to
city
permitting
on
if
they
would
be
able
to
use
that-
and
I
remember
there
being
some
concern
about
sprinkler,
head
damage
and
just
general
damage
to
the
to
the
baseball
field.
So
I
can
certainly
ask,
but
I
don't
foresee
them
moving
on
to
that.
C
Area
yeah,
if
you
can
just
double
check
I'd
hate
for
them,
to
think
that
you
know
this
just
gives
them
access
to
the
to
entire
both
both
fields
for
their
event.
So
if
you
can
just
clarify
that,
that
would
be
great,
it's
always
a
manager.
F
And
madam
chair
and
counselor
what
we
can
do,
if
you
want
is
we
can
go
ahead
and
strip
the
words
saying
fort
mercy
from
this
one,
and
that
way
at
least
friday
will
be
limited
to
majors
field.
They
obviously
won't
move
on
to
the
baseball
field
just
for
one
day,
so
that'll
sort
of
have
the
benefit
of
affecting
both
of
those
resolutions.
A
C
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
and
to
approve
right.
I'm
sorry
didn't
hear
that.
Yes,
yes,
so
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
this,
but
striking
the
language
indicated,
and
we
have
a
second
a
motion
from
councillor
rivera
second
from
councilwoman
villarreal,
and
if
we
could
take
a
roll
call
on
that
and
jennifer,
oh
yeah,
you
are
still
there.
Okay,
sorry!
Maybe
you
weren't.
D
D
A
Yes,
all
right
so
that
passes,
we
have
no
items
for
discussion.
We
will
move
to
our
presentation
for
this
evening,
which
is
a
cannabis
industry
update,
and
I
think
we
have
a
number
of
people
here
with
us.
Let's
see,
let's
get
my
prime
gov
to
update,
so
we
have
kira
ochoa,
who
is
our
well?
We
have
two
directors
kirakira
and
rich
brown
and
then
maybe
I'll
just
turn
it
over
to
one
of
you
and
you
can
introduce
our
guests
and
oh
and
I'm
sorry,
jason
you're.
A
Here
too
sorry,
our
landis
director
as
well
so
kara
do
you
want
to
take
it
from.
G
Here
or
rich
sure,
ma'am
chair
I'll,
take
it
from
here.
Thank
you
good
evening
to
you
and
the
rest
of
the
council.
Yes,
thank
you.
We're
gonna
talk
about
our
cannabis
update
for
today,
and
we
have
a
number
of
subject
matter,
experts
and
staff
here,
so
I
wanted
to
just
do
a
little
quick
preamble
and
then
turn
it
over
to
kira
and
then
we'll
get
to
our
different
speakers
as
we
talk
about
with
the
current
update
of
what
we're
doing
for
the
city
of
santa
fe.
G
So
just
as
a
refresher
in
2021
the
special
session
of
the
of
the
new
mexico
legislature,
they
adopted
the
campus
regulation
act
which
legalized
recreational
candidates
used
by
adults,
21
and
older,
and
then
the
act
took
effect
in
june.
29Th
of
this
year
allows
local
jurisdictions
to
adopt
zoning
and
land
use
regulations,
the
limits
extents
of
local
regulatory
authority
and
then
on
july
9th.
The
memorandum
was
issued
that
summarizes
how
new
cannabis
established
will
be
treated
under
existing
provisions
of
our
chapter,
14
and
city
code
and
describes
types
of
cannabis.
G
Land
use
regulations
that
the
city
could
choose
to
adopt
going
forward,
but
keeping
in
mind
that
there
is
a
very
large
holistic
approach
to
cannabis,
as
it
relates
to
our
city
and
many
other
cities
in
new
mexico.
And
so
today
we
have
a
number
of
people
who
can
talk
about
the
city's
progress
in
these
different
areas.
And
so
I
will
start
with
introducing
emily
coltenbach
who's,
the
dpa
senior
director,
the
drug
policy
alliance
study
and
she
will
be
working
with
kira
cho
about
director
ochoa
from
community
health
and
safety.
G
Then
we'll
also
hear
community
health
and
safety
issues
with
chief
andrew
perdia
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
land
use
regulations
and
proposed
amendments
with
our
interim
land
use
and
planning
director
jason
cook
and
then
we'll
end
up
talking
about
entrepreneurship,
for
our
micro
businesses,
with
john
merch
who's,
the
founder
of
santa
fe
innovates
and
from
there
we'll
sort
of
have
some
takeaways
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
for
questions.
So.
H
Rich,
I'm
sorry
if
I
may
just
flip
a
little
order
there
on
you
and
madam
chair,
I'm
sorry,
but
if
we
could
just
start
with
community
health
and
safety,
including
myself
and
chief
padilla
who's
here,
to
speak
to
what
the
police
have
done
and
then
we'll
we'll
turn
it
over
to
emily.
Okay,
perfect!
So
there
you
have
it
so
director.
H
You
can
start
out
thanks,
rich,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
so
just
also
in
november,
in
anticipation
of
the
legislature
passing
on
cannabis
legislation,
community
services
commissioned
a
report
from
dpa
and
that
report
was
completed
in
in
may
really
it's
dated
april.
But
after
some
back
and
forth,
the
final
report
was
completed,
may
24th,
and
at
that
point
you
know
community
services
shared
it
with
leadership
and
the
directors
in
that
report,
which
is
included
in
your
packet.
H
There
was
a
very
helpful
roadmap
which
laid
out
some
of
the
milestones
that
the
city
needed
to
look
at
in
order
to
make
progress
on
what
on
the
cannabis
changes.
Even
before
we
we
got
the
completed
report
chief
padilla
and
the
city
attorney
began
to
do
work
on
the
first
piece,
which
was
would
affect
ordinances
and
and
enforcement
and
pd.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
chief
padilla
to
just
summarize
quickly
what
was
done
there.
I
Yes,
thank
you
and
good
evening,
madam
chair
committee,
members.
Yes,
definitely
anticipation
of
this,
like
I
said
we
focus
on
working
with
kyle
hybner
from
the
city
attorney's
office
and
municipal
corps
city
attorney,
aaron
mcsherry,
just
to
make
sure
that
we
were
in
line
with
all
these
recent
changes.
I
In
regards
to
the
recent
changes,
like
I
said,
we
did
put
out
a
direction
to
all
of
our
officers
to
cover
the
changes
and
if
they
have
any
questions
like
I
said,
anyone
from
the
city
attorney's
office
can
help
us
out
with
that
direction,
but
no
big
gripes
complaints
from
the
officers
like
I
said
we
are
anticipating
this
for
many
many
years,
and
here
we
are
today
embracing
it
and
moving
forward
with
it,
just
as
when
the
city
adopted
and
kind
of
changed
those
low-level
amounts
of
marijuana
just
to
a
civil,
infraction
the
marijuana
civil
citations,
but
we're
here
to
help
everyone
and
anyone
out
and
long
as
people
follow
the
rules
of
it
and
and
not
doing
it
out
about
in
the
public
and
then
following
the
rules,
if
there's
a
a
location
where
they
can
consume
it.
I
Also,
we
don't
want
people
in
public
parks
or
public
spaces
indulging
in
this.
We
know
those
calls
for
service
may
increase,
as
someone
may
think
that
someone
is
smoking
this
out
and
about
in
public
or
consuming
an
edible
in
the
public.
Those
calls
for
service
could
increase
in
regards
to
driving
well
impaired,
we're
already
dealing
with
it
now.
I
So
it
would
just
be
a
possible
uptick
from
what
we've
learned
from
our
fellow
law
enforcement
partners
locally
and
then
obviously
and
other
states
that,
yes,
that
we
can
anticipate
an
uptick
in
potential
of
driving
while
impaired,
while
under
the
influence
of
this
narcotic,
and
at
that
point
we
would
deal
with
it
and
follow
those
standardized
field
sobriety
tests.
If
we
see
that
type
of
dry
driving
excuse
me
and
then
move
forward
with
the
blood
draw,
what
we
would
currently
do
right
now
and
that's
all
I
have
thank
you.
H
Thank
you
chief,
madam
chair.
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
helpful
to
ask
questions
on
each
portion
as.
A
We
go
yeah,
we,
I
don't.
What's
the
pleasure
of
the
committee,
would
you
like
to
I
mean
that
we're
going
to
cover
a
lot
of
ground
here,
so
we
might
want
to
talk,
ask
questions
by
the
presenter.
I
think
because
this
is
there's
a
lot
here.
So
if
there
are
questions
counselor
rivera
your
hand
is
up.
Did
you
want
to.
C
Yeah,
it
was
up
for
the
last
one,
but
I
do
have
a
question
for
the
chief
as
well:
okay,
chief
padilla,
when
you
talk
about
field
sobriety,
is
that
designed
more
for
alcohol
than
it
is
really
for
cannabis?
And
how
would
an
officer
tell
the
difference.
I
Oh,
the
big
difference,
madam
chair
councilor
rivera,
is
just
going
to
be
the
odor
of
an
alcoholic
beverage.
The
odor
was
not
going
to
be
present.
The
tests
are
just
for
impairment
period.
It's
not
specific
to
alcohol.
Cocaine,
marijuana
meth,
heroin,
fentanyl,
it's
specific,
just
to
impairment
all
the
way
around.
So
there's
not
a
different
test
for
alcohol.
I
Marijuana,
hydrocodone
heroin,
it's
a
standardized
field
sobriety
test
and
if
you
see
impairment
to
the
slightest
degree,
well
then,
based
upon
those
clues,
then
at
that
point
the
officer
can
make
the
determination
to
move
forward
with
an
arrest
and
then
move
forward.
If
there's
not
that
odor
of
an
alcoholic
beverage
or
that
person
is
compliant
and
the
person
does
provide
a
breath
sample
and
it
comes
back
with
no
results
or
zeros,
then
at
that
point
the
officer
may
go
the
route
of
a
blood
draw.
C
I
C
Well,
there
are
two
different
drugs
and
they
affect
the
body
differently,
so
all
you're
looking
for
is,
I
guess,
balance
tests
and
things
like
that
that
you
do
for
just
impairment,
but
you
really
don't
know
the
difference
between
the
two.
So
how
would
you
tell
the
difference
between
those
and
cannabis.
I
Yeah,
mr
madam
chair,
council
rivera
so
like,
I
said
it's
impairment
to
the
slightest
degree.
If
it's
a
blood
draw,
we
won't
have
those
results
for
several
weeks
later
and
then
at
that
point
we
would
know
what
was
in
the
system
of
that
impaired
driver.
So
the
tests
aren't
going
to
say.
Okay,
you
may
have
this
in
the
person
system.
I
At
this
time,
so
the
two
routes,
if
someone
is
arrested
for
dwi,
is
a
breath
sample
into
a
tucker,
8000
machine
or
a
portable
breath
test
machine,
and
then
a
blood
draw
there's
nothing
else
for
it.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
guess
I
got
a
question
in
relation
to
council
riveros
in
regards
to
the
blood
draw,
because
it's
my
understanding
that
when
a
blood
draw
is
done,
you
can't
necessarily
give
it
give
a
time
period
time
point
period
of
somebody's
intoxication
it
it
can
show
up
in
somebody's
system
for
days
weeks,
and
so
you
can't
pinpoint
to
say
this
person
was
under
the
influence
at
this
particular
moment
in
time,
and
so
I
think
that's
is
there
going
to
be.
How
are
we
going
to
address
that.
D
D
That's
a
question
for
the
chief
because
he's
talking
about
the
blood
draws
and
if
we're
going
to
rely
on
the
blood
draw
primarily,
how
are
we
going
to
be
able
to
pinpoint
a
time
period
and
guarantee
that
a
person
was
in
under
the
influence
at
that
moment
that
they
were
arrested
and
if
they
had
not
safely
used
cannabis
at
their
residence
two
days
before
or
even
earlier
that
day,
whatever
it
may
be,
yeah.
I
Yeah
I'll
give
you
a
what,
if
madam
chair,
counselor
garcia
the
way
we
currently
do
it.
Now,
it's
not
pinpointed
to
a
time
that
you
consumed
it.
It's
based
upon
your
impairment.
So
if
you're
showing
impairment
while
driving
it
doesn't
make
it
okay
to
use
a
bunch
of
edibles
or
smear
smoke,
marijuana
here
at
your
house
right
now,
whether
you're
doing
it
illegally
or
through
a
medical
marijuana
card,
and
you
think,
okay.
I
Now
it
makes
it
okay,
because
I
used
it
officially
and
by
the
rules
here
at
my
home
when
you
go
through
that
administrative
hearing
through
a
hearing
officer
they're
not
looking
to
pinpoint
it
so
if
it
shows
up
in
your
system
and
those
are
the
results
and
the
officer
can
explain
the
impairment
or
the
person
was
involved
in
a
crash
and
explain
why
they
pulled
them
over.
That's
what
it
kind
of
comes
down
to.
It's
not
pinpointing
the
exact
time
frame
when
you
consumed
it.
I
Whether
the
person
is
telling
you
the
truth
whether
they
smoked
it.
Two
minutes
before
two
hours
before
two
days
before,
if
it's
in
the
system
and
what
that
hearing
officer
is
looking
for,
the
judge
depends
what
hearing
it
is
is
based
upon
that
impairment
and
what
the
officer
saw
that
caused
the
traffic
stop
to
be
be
imposed
or
be
the
person
being
pulled
over
or
was
the
person
involved
in
a
crash?
And
now
the
officer
is
speaking
to
that
driver
and
seeing
those
cues
and
clues
foreign.
D
Okay,
thank
you
chief.
I
I
appreciate
that
so
we're.
So
what
I'm
hearing
is
we're
going
to
go
off
of
the
the
road
tests,
the
impairment
tests
that
are
given
and
then,
if
there
is
for
some
reason,
the
officer
feels
they
didn't
pass
that
test,
then
they
can
request
blood
drawn
or
or
their
individual
could
also
deny
it.
I
mean
I
think
they
have
that
right
as
well.
What
happens
in
that
instance?
If
an
individual
denies
a
blood
draw.
I
Now
the
way
it
currently
works
now
counselor
garcia.
If
someone
denies
something,
then
at
that
point
the
officers
currently
move
forward
now
with
an
official
search
warrant
approved
by
the
judge,
and
the
judge
makes
it
mandatory.
Then
that
person
is
taken
over
to
the
hospital
and
based
upon
that
search
warrant,
makes
it
mandatory
and
then
that
laboratory
laboratory
technician
excuse
me
or
nurse
does
that
blood
draw?
That's
what's
currently
done,
so
this
is
nothing
new.
I
Like
I
said
right
now,
someone
were
to
be
highly
impaired,
intoxicated
on
marijuana,
because
it's
currently
out
there
right
now,
medically
or
illegally.
Our
officers
are
dealing
with
it,
so
we
can.
All
all
we
can
do
right
now
is
anticipate
an
uptick,
as
these
retailers
become
a
little
bit
more
open
or
people
are
growing
it
on.
I
D
Right,
okay-
and
I
guess
I'll
just
do
you
know
how
other
states
are
doing
this-
they?
What,
where
what
like
the
17th
18th
state
to
legalize
cannabis,
and
I'm
just
wondering
how
other
law
enforcement
agencies
address
this,
and
if
you
don't
know
the
answer,
totally
cool,
I
can
look
it
up,
but
I'm
just
interested
to
see
how
others
might
be
working
to
address
this.
I,
I
think
something
pricked
my
ears,
and
I
just
I
guess
this
is
not
necessarily
related
to
the
blood
draw
question,
but
it's
more
so
related
to
just
legal
legality.
D
If
somebody
has
it
now,
it's
legal
for
them
to
possess
it.
Am
I
correct
right,
I
mean,
even
though
there's
not
necessarily
any
legal
means,
besides
a
medical
card
to
have
it,
but
if
somebody
is
possessing
it,
it's
legal.
I
guess
that's
the
question
I
have
for
you.
What
would
happen
if
you
stop
somebody
and
they
had
cannabis
on
them.
I
Madam
chair
counselor,
garcia
like
even
now,
if
we
were
to
have
the
odor
of
a
burnt
marijuana
from
the
vehicle
or
a
strong
odor
of
marijuana
coming
from
the
vehicle,
we
could
simply
ask
them
and
talk
to
them.
Just
through
simple
conversation,
hey
I'm
smelling
a
strong
odor
of
marijuana,
whether
it's
burnt
like
they
just
smoked
it
or
it's
fresh
and
obviously
not
burned
so
you're
having
that,
and
they
can
explain,
you
have
a
medical
marijuana
card
and
I'm
transporting
it's
100
legal
same
thing.
D
Okay,
so
we
wouldn't
there's
just
because
I
thought
she
had
said
it's
illegal
to
to
have
it,
where
I
thought
that
it's
legal,
we
just
there's
not
any
any
legal
sources
of
obtaining
it
yet
for
the
public,
but
there's
in
regards
to
possessing
it.
It
became
legal
at
the
end
of
june,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure.
I
I
D
E
Manager
hate
it
when
that
happens,
it's
councilwoman
villarreal
chair.
Thank
you
chief.
I
just
had
a
couple
clarifying
questions.
Can
you
just
clarify
for
us
if,
if
officers
smell
cannabis
in
the
car,
they
don't
have
an
ability
to
search,
though
correct
search,
the.
I
Vehicle,
madam
chair,
a
counselor
via
rail,
the
way
it
would
work
if
they
smell
it,
I
mean
if
they
felt
that
there
was
a
need
to
search
the
vehicle
they
asked
for
consent
just
like
they
do
now
with
any
other
incident
where
they
feel
there's
a
need
to
go
beyond
that
traffic,
stop
and
search
a
vehicle.
They
would
ask
for
consent.
I
Then
at
that
point,
if
the
person
were
to
say
no
and
they
see
maybe
syringes
or
a
weapon
sticking
out
from
underneath-
and
maybe
the
person
saying
I
don't
have
any
weapons
in
the
vehicle.
If
the
person
says
no,
the
person
can
be
asked
to
step
out
of
the
vehicle,
and
then
they
would
follow
the
current
procedures
that
we
already
have
in
place
of
obtaining
a
search
warrant
explaining
to
a
judge
what
they've
observed
and
seen
and
what
needs
and
why
they
need
to
need
or
want
to
get
in
the
vehicle.
I
E
Okay,
so
at
the
council
meeting
I
was
asking
staff
about
trainings
and
making
sure
that
our
officers
in
npd
has
all
the
tools
they
need
to
be
able
to
completely
understand
all
the
new
rules
they're.
I
think
they're
somewhat
complicated,
especially
related
to
the
number
of
plants.
So
I'm
just
curious,
if
you
all
have
additional
plans
for
trainings
to
understand
some
of
the
new
rules
and
just
do
a
continuous,
I
don't
know
about
continuous
but
just
making
sure
there's
regular
trainings
for
for
officers.
I
Madam
chair
counselor
via
rail
that
training
was
conducted
over
a
month
ago
with
our
officers,
specifically
that
are
in
the
patrol
division,
focusing
where
they
can
get
dispatched
to
someone's
home
or
they
encounter
this
on
the
roadway
and
then
obviously,
it's
covered
through
a
direction
to
all
of
our
other
department.
Members
to
say:
hey
here
are
the
changes,
and
this
is
how
it's
going
to
be
handled
moving
forward.
I
If
a
new
officer
is
on
board
whether
a
cadet
or
a
lateral
officer,
they're
explained
these
changes
and
obviously
through
their
on-the-job
training,
they
are
it's
going
to
be
mandatory,
obviously
that
they
understand
these
changes
and
same
thing.
If
there's
an
opportunity
where
say
in
six
months,
something
else
changes
the
number
of
plants
change
or
something
else
changes
and
the
law
is
updated.
We
would
obviously
conduct
that
updated
training
as
well.
So
it's
already
been.
E
So
there's
not
a
continuous
up,
not
just
updates
but
just
refreshers,
because
I
think
when
we,
when
I
read
the
memo
that
you
all
provided
for
officers,
it
wasn't
very
clear
as
to
the
plant
number
regulation
and
it
it
simplified
it
when
I
think
it
was
actually
a
little
bit
more
complicated.
I
A
madam
chair,
counselor
vrl,
so
if
an
officer
were
to
get
dispatched
to
a
home
and
there's
a
concern
for
it,
they
could
reference
the
material
and
then,
at
that
point
identify
the
need
every
about
every
two
years
we
do
biennium
training
and
it's
called
a
legal
update
package
that
we
do,
which
would
cover
like
domestic
violence,
any
other
changes
that
would
cover
like
aggravated
stocking.
If
we
feel
there's
a
need
to
cover
this
in
there
because
the
officers
are
getting
wrong,
they're
confused,
they
don't
know
where
to
find
it.
I
This
is
a
topic
that
can
be
added
in
there,
but
just
as
any
other
law
changes,
whether
it's
domestic
violence,
a
robbery,
a
state
statute,
changes,
we
put
out
the
information
and
we
direct
the
officers
where
to
go
to
if
they
get
dispatched
to
it
and
they
are
confused
on
something
they
know
to
reach
out
to
their
supervisor
or
another
senior
officer
to
say
hey.
Where
can
I
reference
this
material?
I
Because
I'm
on
this
call
for
service
they're,
not
just
going
to
go
in
there
and
go
in
there
blindly
and
remove
all
of
someone's
plants,
because
they
just
taking
a
guess.
Well,
I
think
the
amount
was
five
when
in
all
reality
it's
x,
they
would
know
what
to
do
and
not
just
act.
A
problem.
H
Madam
chair,
if
I
may,
chief
padilla
just
amplify
something
you
and
I
spoke
about
there's
you
know
there
are
formal
trainings
and
then
there
are
also
daily
briefings
in
which
issues
that
are
occurring
in
the
field
are
discussed
and
addressed,
and
so
the
changes
to
the
cannabis
laws
have
been
done
have
been
addressed
in
daily
briefings
and
situational
questions
and
answers
come
up
in
this
form
as
well.
Is
that
right.
E
Okay,
that's
helpful.
I
just
know
that
you
know
it's
always
good
to
just
refresh
ourselves,
especially
with
this
one,
because
it's
brand
new
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
will
be
in
play
that
will
come
into
play,
especially
as
it
relates
to
land
use,
so
we'll
probably
have
updates
for
everyone
as
as
we
go
along.
So
that's
all
I
have
for
now.
Thank
you.
Matt.
J
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
so
much
to
you
for
being
here
and
chatting
about
this
with
us.
Counselor
garcia
actually
started
to
ask
my
question
and
then
and
then
he
had
another
one
come
up,
so
we
didn't
really
get
to
to
dive
into
it.
But
I
was
curious
about
you
know.
As
council
romero
worth
has
brought
up
multiple
times.
J
We
are
not
the
first
state
to
do
this,
and-
and
I
know
that
marijuana
is
a
little
bit
challenging
and
understanding
if
somebody
is
currently
using-
and
you
know
that
whole
discussion
about
the
timeline
of
of
when
they
have
used
if
they
are
impaired-
and
I
was
curious
what
other
states
have
been
doing
and
if
there
has
been
development
in
this
area
and
if
you
guys
have
started
to
take
a
look
at
some
of
those
lessons
learned
from
places
that
have
legalized
before
us.
H
Madam
chair
counselor
cassette,
if
I
may
say
the
drug
policy
alliance
work
was
also
to
help
us
learn
from
other
states
experience,
and
so
in
that
report
you'll
find
some
reference
things
that
we're
done
and
we
can.
We
always
have
done
and
we'll
do
deeper,
dives
with
the
drug
policy
alliance,
because
they
have
a
very
nice
sort
of
research
base
from
what
we
can
learn
from
other
state
from
other
states
and
that's
generally,
but
it
also
pertains
to
policing.
J
Yeah
yeah,
I
did,
I
did
see
that
thank
you.
This
has
been
the
one.
The
one
like
hiccup
piece
that
I
feel
like
is
just
really
challenging,
is
just
kind
of
understanding
how
we
monitor
this
and
and
chief.
J
I
do
appreciate
you
bringing
up-
and
this
was
a
very,
very
good
point
that
I
didn't
think
about
is
that
you
know
medical
marijuana
has
been
legal
for
a
while
now,
and
so
I
do
appreciate
hearing
that
you
guys
already
do
have
some
experience
in
the
field
watching
this,
but
but
I
will
be
curious
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
stay
up
to
date
on
as
different
municipalities
as
different
states
continue
to
work
on
this
one.
J
I
I
it
is
the
one
area
that
has
has
made
me
has
made
me
just
a
bit.
You
know
it's
the
one
thing
that
I
don't
really
feel
like,
there's
a
very
easy
answer
for
right
now,
because
I
know
that
sometimes
people
will
pass
a
field
sobriety
test
and
not
really
be
sober
and
and
with
alcohol.
My
understanding
is,
it's
a
lot
easier
on
the
spot.
You
can
give
them
a
breathalyzer
test
and
we
just
don't
have
that
same
scientific
capability
with
marijuana,
and
so
it
is
something
that
I've
really
just
had.
J
H
Madam
chair
counselor
casa,
perhaps
emily
can
answer
that
question,
but
I
want
to
make
the
point
that
the
marijuana
is
being
decriminalized.
In
fact
it's
being
legalized,
and
so
that
means
that
law
enforcement
approaches
to
marijuana
are
the
same
essentially
as
they
would
be
for
alcohol.
H
No,
no,
I
I
didn't
mean,
of
course,
I
I
just
mean
the
I
guess.
The
point
is
the
focus
here
is
not
how
to
find
you
know,
penalize
people
for
using
marijuana.
The
focus
would
be
how
to
ensure
that
people
aren't
driving
impaired
and
we
have
a
firm
procedure
in
place
to
do
that.
J
Right,
okay,
yeah.
I
guess
that
is
helpful,
and
that
is
you
know,
maybe
just
something
that
we
really
haven't
thought
about
is
or
that
I
haven't
thought
about
as
much
as
that
people
do
drive
impaired
when
things
are
illegal
anyway.
So,
but
emily
did
you
did
you
have
anything
to
add
of
some
of
you
know
that
question
about
is
are.
Are
we
looking
at
the
technologies
that
can
really
do
these
in
the
field
tests?
K
And
councillor
cassid
yeah
lots
of
states
are
looking
it's
challenging,
though,
as
everyone
mentioned
tonight
of
being
able
to
find
a
test.
That
equates
how
much
someone
used
with
impairment.
So
there
are
some
field
tests,
but
all
it
will
show
is
that
someone
used
not
whether
they're
impaired,
and
so
we
advocate
that
law
enforcement
is
trained,
roadside
sobriety
training,
as
director
ochoa
mentioned.
K
You
know,
someone
could
be
sleep
deprived
or
they
could
be
using
a
substance
and
they're
still
impaired
and
providing
a
public
health
risk,
and
so
law
enforcement
should
be
trained
to
recognize.
You
know
those
signs.
I
would
say
that
what
other
states
are
doing.
That's
very
helpful
is
thinking
about
public
education
about
responsible
use.
K
So
if
we're
going
to
be
putting
energy
into
and
resources
into
limiting
the
number
of
people
on
the
roads
using
cannabis
and
driving
the
best
ways
through
public
education,
I
will
also
say
that
you
may
have
seen
data
in
other
states
that
show
an
increase
in
dui
related
to
cannabis.
You
have
to
be
careful
with
that
data
because
sometimes
all
it's
saying
it's
not
there's
no
causal
effect.
It
may
just
be
correlation
because
that
data
is
getting
collected
where
it
wasn't
before.
So
when
a
state
legalizes
they
tend
to.
K
Like
start
looking
at
that
data
and
testing
more
for
cannabis,
so
we
haven't
seen
a
real
causation
between
legalization
and
duis.
K
People
are
doing
it
all
the
time
now
there
might
be
a
slight
bump,
but
we
have
to
remember
that
there
are
people
driving
all
the
time
now,
even
though
it's
illegal
using
cannabis
and
what's
more
concerning
is
more
the
can
of
poly
substance
use.
K
What
we
see
is
that
if
it's
cannabis
and
alcohol
there's
more
likely,
that
person
will
be
even
more
impaired,
and
so
it's
it's
complicated,
but
I
I
think
the
state
is
in
the
law
required
to
be
tracking
some
of
this
and
looking
at
the
data
and
doing
some
public
education.
So
if
there
are
resources
in
our
community,
I
would
urge
that
we
do
educate
on
responsible
adult
use.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you
emily
and
that
actually,
that
kind
of
brings
up
another
interesting
question
in
terms
of
the
education.
When
we
talk
about
alcohol,
which
of
course
is
kind
of
the
closest
thing
we
have
to
really
compare
about
it.
There's
this
like
responsible
drinking
where,
supposedly
on
average,
you
could
have
a
drink
with
dinner
and
drive.
If
you're
me,
that's
not
true,
because
I
have
no
tolerance,
but
but
you
with
marijuana
with
that
education
is
that
part
of
is
that
is
that
part
of
this
process,
and
do
we
understand
that
you
know?
J
Is
there
kind
of
like
you
can
have
you
know
a
puff
of
marijuana
and
then
you're
fine
to
drive?
Is
that
part
of
kind
of
the
responsible
use
education?
Or
is
it
really
if
you
smoke?
You
must
wait,
however,
many
hours
before
you
go
just
understanding
what
responsible
use
means
and
responsible
use
of
driving.
K
So,
madam
chair
and
counselor
cousin,
it's
harder
because
just
like
alcohol,
some
people
have
higher
tolerances
and
lower
tolerances.
Someone
could
be
a
medical,
cannabis,
patient
and
use
and
never
be
impaired
at
all.
But
there
is
you
know.
The
data
shows
that
it's
a
bell
curve
of
impairment
right
and
that's
a
very
short
curve
in
the
sense
of
you
know:
you're
not
impaired
for
a
very
long
time,
but
that
can
differ.
K
K
You
shouldn't
be
driving
if
you're
impaired
and
using
so
I
don't
know,
that's
helpful
or
not.
J
I
think
it
just
underscores
how
how
incredibly
complicated
this
is
and
that
it's
a
lot
to
think
about
and
that
education
piece
will
be.
You
know,
important
and
and
understanding
that
some
people
will
be
responsible
and
some
people
won't.
So
I
do
appreciate
the
work
here.
I
know
that
this
is
tough
again.
J
This
is,
I
feel,
one
of
the
the
hardest
areas
of
the
discussion
of
legalization,
and
while
people
do,
you
know
still
right
now,
utilize
illegally
and
thrive,
I
I
do
think
it
does
start
to
change
the
scenario
when
it
is
something
that
they
will
be
able
to
do
and
that
potentially
would
be
able
to
go
to
a
marijuana
bar
and
smoke
and
and
it
just
it
really
starts
to
to
change
this
conversation.
J
So
I
do
want
to
really
thank
the
work
that
the
police
department
is
doing
and
that
care
you're
doing
in
your
department,
because
I
I
don't
envy
you
trying
to
figure
this
out.
I
mean
this
is
this
is
going
to
be
tough
and
I
I
really
appreciate
the
the
work
and
the
effort
going
in
here.
So
thank
you.
That's
all.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
garcia,.
C
Thank
you
regards
to
em.
This
is
for
emily
kaltenbach.
You
talked
about
the
data
that
was
being
collected
from
other
states
and
probably
the
data
that
our
own
state
will
be
collecting,
but
since
cannabis
stays
in
your
system
or
cancer
in
your
system
up
to
20
days,
how
are
they
validating
the
information
that
that's
going
into
the
system
as
far
as
driving
impaired
or
under
being
under
the
influence.
K
I'm,
madam
chair
and
counselor,
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
I'm
experienced
enough
to
answer
that
question
specifically,
but
my
understanding
is
it's
not
the
data
doesn't
say
that
they're
impaired
it
just
said
that
they
have
the
drug
in
their
system.
During
a
usually
they
look
at
accidents
mostly,
and
they
do
you
look
at
duis,
but
so
again
it's
hard
to
look
at
that
data
because
it
doesn't
say
that
they
were
impaired.
C
All
right,
so
the
the
accident
or
whatever's
not
being
attributed
to
marijuana
use,
they're
just
saying
it
was
in
the
system,
could
have
been
any
time
28
days
prior
to
the
accident.
K
Madam
chair
and
counselor,
my
understanding
is
most
of
the
data.
Is
that
yes,
however-
and
I
don't
know
if
the
chief
can
answer
that
there
are
cases
where
people
are
charged
with
duis
from
cannabis
and
proved
that
that
person
is
impaired,
so
you
know
there,
I
would
imagine
that
in
our
state
we
have
some
of
that
data.
That
actually
says
the
person
was
impaired.
C
K
Madam
chair
counselor,
yes,
there
is
a
swab
where
they
swab
the
inside
of
the
cheek.
But
again
all
it
shows
is
that
there
was
use
within
that
recent
use,
but
not
again
not
impairment.
Okay,.
K
C
That's
okay!
It's
more
of
a
curiosity
question
if
you
knew
my
last
question
is
for
chief
padilla
again,
since
cannabis
is
still
illegal
at
the
federal
level.
If
they
came
into
santa
fe
and
wanted
to
do
a
raid
on
on
somebody.
Typically,
they
asked
for
assistance
from
local
law
enforcement.
How
would
that
work.
I
Now,
madam
chair
council,
rivera
right
now,
as
you
mentioned,
they
may
ask
sometimes
they
tell
us
they're
doing
something
in
the
city.
Sometimes
they
don't
if
they
just
want
to
come
into
the
city
right
now
and
serve
a
search
warrant
for
whatever
reason
they
don't
need
our
assistance.
I
They
don't
need
to
tell
us,
but
yes
sometimes
they
do
ask
us
if
they
say
hey
we're
going
to
serve
a
search
warrant
on
this
roadway
and
we
need
you
guys
to
block
off
the
road.
So
people
aren't
driving
by
and
endangering
anyone
or
if
we're
going
to
be
out
in
the
roadway,
but
they
could
come
on
in
and
do
what
they
need
to
do
and
not
tell
us
anything
or
they
could
come
on
in
and
say,
hey
we're
asking
for
your
assistance
to
block
the
roadway.
I
That's
probably
assistance
that
we
would
provide
if
they
say
hey,
we
need
your
assistance
and
we
need
excuse
me
your
detectives
to
also
go
into
the
home
with
us.
At
that
point
we
would
probably
say
no,
but
if
it's
assistance
to
block
off
a
roadway
or
seeing
security,
then
at
that
point
we
would
probably
assist.
But
yes,
the
federal
government
could
still
come
on
in
and
do
what
they
needed.
C
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
My
my,
the
main
part
of
the
question
was
to
see
how
you
guys
or
what
kind
of
action
you
would
take
in
or
participation
you
would
have
in
that.
So
you
answered
that.
Thank
you
chief.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Okay,
director
cho,
I
think
we're
ready
to
move
on.
Thank
you
and
with
that
we
can.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
emily
calm
back
for
a
short
portion
of
presentation
on
their
findings
from
the
report.
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
and
thank
you
director
brown
for
sharing
the
slideshow.
As
director
ochoa
had
mentioned,
we
worked
on
a
report
that
was
really
centered
on
looking
at
some
of
the
local
options
for
revenue
and
some
of
the
best
practices
we
did,
as
you
mentioned,
provide
a
little
bit
of
a
road
map
that
touched
on
some
of
the
other
issues
that
would
present
themselves
to
a
local
jurisdiction
such
as
policing,
employee
protections.
K
K
K
What
we
were
asking
primarily
was
where
they
would
like
to
see
the
revenue
allocated
and
when
we
talk
about
revenue,
we're
talking
about
the
local
excise
tax
revenue
that
will
be
collected
on
sales
and
there
will
also
be
grt
collected
as
well.
I
do
want
to
just
flag
that
the
law
actually
changed
medical
cannabis
sales
so
that
they
no
longer
collect
grts.
I
just
want
to
flag
that
when
you're
thinking
about
revenue
estimates
there
will
be
a
decrease
in
grt
from
medical
cannabis,
but
an
increase
in
recreational.
K
So
I
think
it's
just
important
as
we
look
at
some
of
those
estimates.
We
also
interviewed
15
city
city
staff
asking
some
of
the
same
questions.
As
you
recall
a
couple
years
ago,
it's
actually
been
a
little.
Over
a
year
we
presented
to
this
body
on
the
municipal,
drug
strategy,
task
force,
findings
and
those
were
based
on
interviews
of
over
200
new
santa
fe
residents,
and
there
was
some
specific.
K
So
what
we
found
both
with
the
poll
and
the
city
staff
interviews,
they
were
very
much
aligned,
and
so
I'm
sharing
our
findings
based
on
both
of
those
interviews
when
we
asked
what
were
the
common
needs
for
cannabis
revenue,
economic
development,
so
recovery
to
bring
back
jobs
that
we
lost
during
the
pandemic.
Now
that
may
change
it'd
be
interesting
to
see
now,
six
months
later,
seven
months
later,
whether
our
residents
feel
as
strongly
about
the
economic
development
piece.
K
But
I
do
want
to
share
that
both
the
city
staff
and
our
voters
named
economic
development
housing
also,
so
I
think
20
sorry
going
back
up
there.
27
percent
of
voters
supported
economic
development,
25
supported
housing
and
making
housing
more
accessible
and
affordable,
and
the
bulk,
though,
was
around
community
services,
and
so
that
entails
substance,
use
disorder,
behavioral,
mental
health
services,
youth
programming,
some
of
the
public
safety
response
models,
and
then
the
fourth
bucket
was
around
the
general
fund
just
putting
some
portion
of
revenue
back
into
the
general
fund.
K
K
K
What
we
heard
is
that
local
excise
taxes
should
be
used
for
local
social
services
and
supports
and
here's
a
list
of
what
those
funding
recommendations
include
that
are
in
the
report
we
presented
to
the
body
last
year,
so
you'll
see,
housing
is
on
there:
youth
engagement
and
programming,
re-entry
programs,
behavioral
health
and
mental
health
and
innovative
approaches
to
emergency
response.
K
So
what
we
saw
when
we
looked
at
all
of
these,
both
the
qualitative
and
quantitative
data
from
these
three
different
sources,
they
all
supported
each
other
so
on
to
the
next
and
lastly,
looking
at
some
of
the
lessons
learned,
so
we
we
took
a
handful
of
local
jurisdictions
around
the
country
in
states
that
had
legalized
and
the
revenue
allocations
really
differ
by
jurisdiction.
So
there
really
wasn't
a
best
practice
that
came
from
looking
at
those
specific
cities
and
counties.
K
However,
you
know,
and
they
really
ranged
from
the
general
fund,
the
substance,
use
and
mental
health
treatment
to
policing
again.
The
policing
piece
was
before
this
last
year,
where
there's
been
more
emphasis
on
looking
at
police
budgets
at
a
city
and
county
level.
I
you
know
some
of
those
low
revenue
allocations
may
change,
but
it
really
was
a
across
the
board.
K
However,
what
we're
seeing
recently-
and
this
was
really
dpa's
very-
very
our
interest
in
this
issue-
come
from
a
public
health
and
a
social
justice
and
equity
perspective,
and
we've
seen
states
more
re.
The
states
that
have
more
recently
legalized
have
really
been
focused
on
the
equity
and
the
social
justice
components,
so
in
recent
years,
we're
seeing
more
revenue
being
targeted
towards
the
social
justice
and
equity
and
reinvesting
back
into
communities
that
have
been
harmed
by
cannabis
prohibition
in
the
past.
K
So
we
are
seeing
a
trend
of
movement
of
where
you
know
making
sure
that
revenue
is
getting
reinvested
back
into
communities
that
have
been
harmed
reinvesting
back
to
make
sure
that
there
are
local
new
mexico
businesses
that
are
running
these,
whether
that's
the
retail
side
or
the
manufacturing
or
the
growing,
so
that
it's
not
big
marijuana
coming
in
out
of
state
making
sure
that
people
who
have
been
shut
out
of
opportunity.
K
K
Moving
that
way
and
just
a
couple
of
examples,
there
are
ideas
emerging
out
of
new
york
state
right
now
to
direct
the
revenue
to
a
universal
basic
income
for
people
of
color,
in
denver
they
and
and
in
your
packet.
There's
some
examples
of
what
denver
has
done
about
really
making
sure
they're
budgeting
through
a
race
and
equity
lens,
and
so
those
could
serve
as
some
examples
for
santa
fe.
K
And
lastly,
I
just
wanted
to
share
some
of
the
lessons
learned
just
from
a
process
perspective,
not
necessarily
where
the
revenue
should
go,
but
what
local
jurisdictions
have
that
have
already
gone
through.
This
process
has
have
recommended
that
there's
a
lot
of
transparency
in
reporting
about
where
the
revenue
is
going
and
making
sure
that
we're
reporting
back
to
the
public
on
those
revenues
involving
community
members
and
businesses
and
others
that
are
impacted
by
policies
to
get
involved
in
the
budget
decisions.
K
Whatever
that
looks
like
for
our
city,
obviously,
we've
already
started
doing
that.
I
think,
through
this
report
and
the
polling,
so
I
think
that's
a
good
step
and
making
sure
that
again
thinking
of
our
our
budgeting
through
an
equity
lens,
given
that
there's
been
so
much
harm
on
on
certain
communities
because
of
prohibition
that
the
funding
then
can
support
and
try
to
repair
some
of
the
harms.
We
know
that
it
wouldn't
completely.
K
I'm
thinking
about
you
know,
as
in
the
discussion
sort
of
what's
the
broad
scope
of
the
economic
benefits
of
where
the
revenue
goes.
Thinking
about
how
it
fits
into
your
overall
economic
vision
and,
lastly,
just
being
a
little
cautious
with
revenue
estimates
because
for
the
most
part,
most
states
have
exceeded
their
revenue
estimates,
but
you
know,
I
think,
because
it
is
a
taxing
on
a
substance
where
use
might
change.
K
A
Great,
if
you
yep,
perfect,
stop
sharing
your
screen
right
on
right
on
cue,
counselor,
garcia,
your
hand
is
up
first.
D
D
So
so
why
survey
city
staff
and
who,
who
were
the
city
staff
that
you
surveyed.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
counselor
garcia.
So
the
recommendation
to
interview
city
staff
was
made
by
the
community
services
division
and
they
gave
us
a
list
of
staff
to
interview
and
I'm
happy.
I
don't
know
if
director
ochoa
wants
to
go
through
that
list.
Let
me
pull
it
up,
but
I'm
happy
to
share
who
was
interviewed,
including
various
individuals,
on
this
call.
So
I
believe
the
chief
was
interviewed.
I
believe
the
director
ochoa.
Do
you
want
to
go
through
that
list?
Kara,
I'm
just.
K
Let
me
see
if
I
can
find
that
list.
I
apologize.
H
We
did
have
the
finance
director,
the
economic
development
director,
I
believe,
as
well
as.
D
My
concern
is
that
you
we
can
get
a
very
skewed
result
from
from
that
and
I
and
I'm
just
trying
to
wrap
my
hand
around
why
you
would
go
and
and
in
that
direction,
and
I
think
that's
a
maybe
a
conversation
carrier
you
and
I
can
have
offline,
because
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
is
taxpayer
dollars
and
I
think
the
taxpayers
should
have
the
final
say-so
and
what
they
want,
and
their
survey
is
what's
most
critical
and
most
important.
D
In
that
sense,
the
last
one
of
the
last
points
you
made
in
your
slide
was
revenue,
estimates
and
ensure
that
we're
not
over
promising
over,
expecting
etc
and
from
my
understanding
is
that.
D
The
revenue
source
is
expected
to
be
under
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
if,
if
we
want
to
see
more
greater
of
a
revenue
source
that
would
come
down
to
us
imposing
an
excise
tax,
can
you
talk
to
me
more
about
that,
because
I,
I
think,
that's
that's
very
critical
for
the
public
to
understand
that
there's
going
to
be
a
pot
of
money
that
comes
to
us,
but
there
is
also
an
opportunity
with
this
legislation
for
the
city
to
develop
a
new
tax
that
would
create
the
in
addition,
revenue,
which
is
not
required.
D
It's
an
opportunity
that
the
city
may
have,
but
it's
it's
definitely
not
something
that
is
required.
So
if
you
wouldn't
mind
emily,
just
speaking
a
little
more
about
that.
K
Madam
chair
and
counselor
garcia,
actually
there
isn't
the
ability
to
create
an
excise
tax,
that's
already
built
into
the
state
law,
so
just
like
how
grt
works
currently
that
there
will
be
a
portion
of
the
of
the
sales
that
will,
that
is,
an
excise
tax
and
it
will
go
to
the
state
and
the
state
will
then
allocate
it
back
to
the
city.
So
there's
actually
going
to
be.
I
think
it's
like
33.
K
I
I'm
not
that
economist
here,
but
you
know.
Basically,
it
started
with
about
three
or
four
percent
of
the
sales.
Originally,
the
the
language
had
that
three
to
four
percent
that
a
city
could
impose,
and
instead
the
taxation
and
revenue
department
decided
to
be
much
easier
if
that
portion
was
just
taken
and
reallocated
back
to
the
city,
no
matter
what
so
the
city
is
going
to
get
both
the
grt
and
a
portion
of
the
excise
tax.
D
Okay,
thank
you
for
clarifying
that.
I
think
that's,
maybe
something
that
got
lost
between
what
was
being
heard
in
the
regular
session
and
then
what
was
ultimately
being
passed
in
the
special
session,
because
I
thought
that
was
part
of
this
regular
session
bill.
But
thank
you.
I
really
appreciate
that.
There's
so
much
going
on
with
us.
I
think
that's
where
we
need
to
spend
the
appropriate
time
to
wrap
our
head
around
what
what
is
going
to
be
coming
to
us,
and
so
thank
you
for
that
clarification.
I
really
appreciate
that.
D
So
is
that
I
guess,
given
those
original
estimates-
and
I
apologize
I'm
going
to
go
with
regular
session
data
there-
there
was
that
under
100
000.
So
with
this
potential
new
with
well
with
the
new
revenue
with
the
excise
I
mean,
is
there
a
ballpark
that
that
I
mean-
and
I
don't
want-
and
just
in
the
sense
because
you
had
mentioned
don't
overestimate,
and
that's
one
thing
I
definitely
want
us
to
do-
is
not
begin
to
overestimate
and
think.
D
K
Madam
chair
and
counselor,
I
don't
have
the
data
for
santa
fe.
I
know
a
couple
years
ago.
It
was
well
above
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
so
I
I
think
it
was
closer
to
like
seven
to
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
with
the
excise
tax.
But
I
I
don't
know
what
that
amount
is
currently
based
on
the
new
formula
and
excise
tax
projections,
but
I
I
can
guarantee
it'll
be
more
than
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
in
revenue
back
to
the
city.
D
Okay,
thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
that.
I
don't
have
any
other
questions
emily
right
now.
I
think,
for
the
presentation
still
trying
to
get
through
this,
this
extensive
report-
I
mean
it's
300
pages,
so
I
really
appreciate
all
the
time
and
effort
that
went
into
it.
Lots
of
information
for
us
to
to
really,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
wrap
her
head
around.
D
You
know,
I
think,
that's
where
we've
got
to
as
we're
looking
at
how
to
dedicate
the
resources
from
this.
I
I
would
really
encourage
us
as
a
city
to
take
the
direction
that
the
survey
provided
in
regards
to
invest
back
in
the
community.
D
I
think
this
is
our
opportunity
to
ensure
that
we
are
providing
adequate
programming
for
substance
abuse,
not
only
for
folks
that
might
be
dealing
with
issues,
but
also
education
programs
for
our
young
folks
in,
in
the
sense
that
we
we
need
to
ensure
that
I
think
you
had
said
where
you
provided
the
resources
to
those
that
are
most
impacted
by
this
new
legislation,
and
I
think
that's
that's
what
we
really
need
to
begin
to
see
how
how
deep
of
an
impact
we
can
have
in
an
appropriately
invested
in
the
community.
Thank
you,
emily.
K
Thank
you,
counselor
council
cassette,
you
have
your
hand
up.
J
J
I
was
curious
a
little
bit
more
about
the
survey
methodology
and-
and
I
guess
my
concern
with
the
survey-
there's
nothing
in
there-
that
I
find
very
surprising,
but
my
concern
is:
is
the
sample
size
given
how
large
our
city
is,
and
it
was
just
about
400
individuals,
and
so
I
did
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
fact
that
that's
a
pretty
small
sample
size
and
also
what
the
methodology
was
for
getting
participants.
So
I
could
understand
a
little
bit
more
about
how
people
knew.
H
Madame
chair
I'll
counselor
cassette
I'll,
let
emily
call
back
answer
that,
but
I
did
want
to
just
say
that
this
report,
from
our
point
of
view,
was
a
really
the
first
kind
of
salvo
for
this
subject
matter
right.
It's
the
first
sort
of
foray
into
the
subject
matter,
which
is
why
you
know
why
we
didn't
sample
everyone
and
why
you
know
we
did
think
about
internal
stakeholders
as
well
as
external
stakeholders.
H
I
do
think
the
fact
that
this
aligns,
with
the
very
extensive
work
that
the
municipal
drug
policy
task
force
did
in
terms
of
surveying.
Community
engagement,
et
cetera,
is
promising,
but
I
I
would
say
we're
by
no
means
done
with
the
community
engagement
piece
around
how
to
spend
the
revenue,
and
thankfully
we
do
have
some
time
to
develop
that
so
really
looking
forward
to
all
of
your
input
as
well
as
your
constituents
and
put
on
how
they
feel
the
revenue
should
be
spent
and.
J
And
you
frequently
do
kiera
you,
you
anticipated
my
next
question,
so
I
appreciate
you
getting
there
about
what's
coming
up,
but
but
emily
if
you
did
want
to,
if
you
had
anything
else
to
add
about
what
that
survey
methodology
looked
like
and
and
how
participants
were
chosen.
K
Absolutely
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
and
counselor.
So
actually
it
was
based
on
so
the
400
is
a
huge
number
for
a
small
city
when
you're
doing
actual
polling.
So
sometimes
statewide
polls
are
only
four
to
six
hundred
and
they
still
have
a
confidence
or
margin
of
error
of
about
like
three
four
five
percent,
so
this
actually
had
a
margin
of
error
plus
or
minus
five
percent
at
a
ninety-five
percent
confidence
level.
K
So
any
kind
of
polling
you
would
do
would
be
very
similar
to
this
as
the
number
so
the
number
of
voters
for
the
size
of
santa
fe,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
confidence.
Obviously
you
know
we
all
know
with
polling.
It
depends
on.
You
know,
who's
answering
the
poll
is
in
the
packet.
So
if
you
want
to
look
at
sort
of
who
is
demographics-
and
I
think
it's
broken
down
even
by
the
district,
but
we
can
also
help
go
through
that.
K
I
would,
and
also
we
used
a
very
experienced
pollster,
steve
claremont
who's
done
a
lot
of
polling
in
new
mexico
for
many
many
years
and
they
are
going
toward
more
towards
a
web-based
way
of
getting
input.
So
I
can
also
you
know
on
another
date,
share
exactly
how
that
methodology
is
used,
but
we're
seeing
a
shift
to
getting
respondents
through
this
instead
of
youth,
because
everyone
has
cell
phones
now
and
they
don't
answer
that
it's
really
hard
to
get
people
to
engage
in
polls.
K
So
I
feel
very
confident
in
the
methodology,
but
just
to
echo
what
director
ochoa
said
that
we,
this
is
just
a
first
step
and
that's
why
one
of
the
lessons
learned
is
really
community
engagement
is
important
when
you're
going
to
be
making
the
final
decisions
around
revenue.
Estimates.
K
Madam
chair,
I
and
counselor
cassette.
I
will
pull
that
out
because
I'm
not
sure
I
think
we
just
provided
the
questions
and
director
joy.
Maybe
I
can
work
with
you
on
the
crosstabs
for
the
polls,
so
you
can
look
at
it
by
district
because
we
definitely
did
break
it
down.
It
may
not
have
ended
up
in
the
final
packet
on
your
for
your
for
this
presentation.
J
Okay,
great
yeah,
that's
that
was
one
of
one
of
the
pieces.
That's
not
just
the
breakdown
by
district,
but
by
age
by
you
know,
self-identifying
factors,
you
know
race
and
ethnicity
by
I
don't
know
if
we
collected
income
but
all
of
these
different
factors
and
seeing
how
they
align.
This
has
been.
You
know,
kind
of
a
broader
conversation
that
we've
had
often
around
midtown
about
how
we
do
our
community
engagement
and
the
fact
that
sometimes
these
more
traditional
polls
don't
pull
out
the
voices
that
we
don't
hear
from
as
much.
J
And
so
that's
that's
where
a
lot
of
my
concern
is
coming
from
just
to
provide
that
context
for
you,
I
apologize.
You
have
not
been
part
of
all
of
those
conversations
with
us,
but
that
was
one
of
the
areas
where,
as
we
continue
to
move
forward
again,
some
of
these
kind
of
lessons
learned
that
we
know
that
we'll
we'll
do
polls
and
we
get
decent.
We
get
good
numbers,
but
we
still
always
get
this
feedback
from
the
community.
J
If
we
feel
like
how
do
we
make
sure
that
we
really
are
collecting
the
voices
that
are
frequently
missed-
and
I
know
it's
a
challenge-
it's
it's
something
that's
very
hard
to
do,
but
I
think
also
very
important,
especially
with
a
lot
of
these
conversations
around
the
legalization
of
marijuana,
especially
knowing
that
many
of
the
communities
that
are
often
the
voices
that
we
have
missed
are
also
the
communities
that
have
been
hit
hardest
and
have
been
most
negatively
impacted
by
marijuana
being
in
a
legal
substance,
and
you
know
the
justice
system
there,
and
so
I
think
that
is
my
concern
as
we're
moving
forward.
J
K
So,
madam
chair
and
and
counselor-
oh
sorry-
maybe
that
was
directly-
I
I
would
say-
and
pivot
back
to
the
municipal
drug
strategy
task
force,
because
we
shared
that
same
concern
that
you
can't
just
rely
on
polling
like
this
alone
and
the
intentional
community
engagement.
And
so,
as
I
mentioned,
271
people
from
across
I
mean,
and
those
were
intentionally
a
lot
of
people
who'd
been
impacted
like
we,
we
decided
that
that
was
the
the
group
of
individuals
we
wanted
to
hear
from.
K
So
those
were
focus
groups
and
one-on-one
conversations,
and
so
what
I
found
comforting
is
that
the
polling
results
really
did
align
with
what
we
heard
in
the
community
through
that
months
long
process
of
engaging,
I
mean
there
are
immigrant
folks,
we
worked
with
somos.
We
worked
with
the
recovery
center.
We
work
with
people
who
had
just
been
released
from
incarceration,
so
we
worked
with
the
aaa
groups.
I
mean
we
look.
We
really
did,
I
think,
a
fairly
good
job.
K
We
actually
even
went
to
santa
fe
our
capitol
high
school
and
with
communities
in
the
school
partnered
with
them
to
hear
both
from
youth
and
from
their
staff.
So
I'm
I'm
hopeful
that
that
is
informative,
but
I
agree:
listening
intently
to
people
who've
been
most
impacted
is
going
to
be
really
important
in
this
process.
J
And
that
was
that
was
this
one
from
last
free
pandemic
life.
Okay,
make
sure
that
I
have
the
right
one
out.
Well,
I
really
do
appreciate
it.
I'm
glad
that
it's
something
that's
being
thought
about,
and
I'm
happy
to
hear.
This
is
the
beginning
and
as
as
I
had
said
before,
you
know,
none
of
the
survey
results
were
very
surprising,
which
is
good.
J
I
mean
based
on
a
lot
of
the
conversations
that
we've
had,
but
I
do
appreciate
that
there'll
be
a
lot
more
going
forward
and
thank
you
so
much
for
sharing
that
I
I
would,
in
the
future,
definitely
like
to
get
information
on
the
demographics
for
the
responses
to
that
survey.
That
would
be
really
wonderful
if,
if
you
could
send
those
along
to
myself
and
I'm
I'm
sure
my
colleagues
are
interested
as
well,
so
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
counselor,
garcia,
oldham
new
hand.
E
All
right
counselor
via
real.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Let's
see
emily,
thank
you
for
the
information
and
the
report.
I
was
also
interested
in
the
demographics
of
the
polling
from
january,
and
I
was
curious
why
just
voters
like
is
there
when
they
do
polling?
What
do
they
just?
Why
do
they
focus
on
voters
versus
residents
in
the
city.
K
Madam
chair
and
and
counselor
great
question,
it's
sometimes
easier
to
access
and
get
information
out
because
you
have
the
voter
rolls,
and
so
I
think,
that's
often
and
oftentimes
pollsters
are
used
to
polling
voters
and
by
district,
because
elected
officials
are
really
interested
in
their
voters,
but
you
bring
up
a
good
point.
I
don't
you
know.
There
was
no
reason
that
they
chose
voters
over
residence.
I
think
it
was
just
access
ease
of
access.
K
Madam
chair
and
counselor,
this
was
actually
through
it's
more
web-based
now
because
it's
so
difficult
to
get
people
to
answer
their
cell
phones
and
you
don't
have
those
home
phone
lines
that
people
answer
anymore.
So
so
they
were
able,
they
can
pull
registered
voters,
information
and
then
target
them,
and
you
get
a
better
response
rate.
E
Got
it
okay
and
then
just
curious?
I
know
that
I
was
looking
at
how
other
states
allocated
and
some
of
them
focused
on
education
and
so
knowing
that
our
school
dis
district,
they
don't
get
a
separate
revenue
allocation,
I'm
assuming
that's!
They
don't
get
that
those
revenue
sources
directly
to
the
school
district.
So
how
do
you
see
that
connecting
us
back
to
needs
around
education?
Is
it
education
around
cannabis
use
or
is
it
education,
just
as
our
system
of
education
in
our
city
and
improvements
in
that
area?.
K
Madam
chair
and
counselor,
I
think
it
really
varies
by
jurisdiction,
so
mostly
when
it
says
education,
that's
in
this
like
the
k-12
education
for
the
most
part.
So
if
you
recall
in
colorado's
ballot
initiative,
a
portion
of
their
state
revenue
actually
gets
allocated
back
to,
I
think
the
school
capital
improvement
fund
or
something
to
that
effect.
K
So
when
we
did
statewide
polling,
a
lot
of
individuals
wanted
to
see
revenue
go
back
to
public
education,
education
of
our
young
people
in
general,
and
so
I
think,
because
some
of
those
jurisdictions,
I'm
just
guessing,
might
have
more
control.
You
know
their
districts,
their
public
school
districts
work
differently.
You
know,
I
don't
know
if
it's
they're,
giving
it
directly
to
their
district
or
it's
coming
through
a
state
allocation.
K
E
K
K
K
I
anticipate
there
will
be
some
legislation
and
some
discussion
in
the
budget
session
about
where
that
revenue
should
be
allocated
if
anywhere-
and
there
are
a
lot
of
outside
advocates-
advocating
for
it
to
be
reinvested
back
into
the
community
to
help
small
businesses
get
off
the
ground,
et
cetera
and
in
the
municipal
drug
strategy
task
force.
The
task
force
did
recommend
that
the
city
advocate
for
those
dollars
to
be
reinvested
back
into
community
services.
E
Okay,
I
didn't
realize
that
it
all
that
there'll
be
other
future
sessions
about
how
to
allocate
the
revenue
when
it
gets
to
that
point,
because,
right
now,
all
of
it
goes
to
general
fund.
That's
interesting,
but
our
portion,
but
there's
still
a
measure
that
would
go
to
jurisdictions.
Oh
right,
municipal
or
local
jurisdictions,
our
general
fund,
or
how
does
that
work?
I'm
so
confused
about
how
it
how
it
gets
distributed
and.
K
K
There
will
be
a
grt
tax
just
like
any
other
product
that
gets
sold
in
the
city
limits
and
then,
on
top
of
that
there'll
be
a
special
excise
tax
that
gets
collected
a
portion
of
that
excise
tax
will
come
back
to
your
city,
just
like
grt
does
so
on.
I
think
you
get
it
on
a
monthly
basis.
I'm
not
sure
how
that
works,
but
you'll
get
get
it
back.
K
E
Thank
you
for
that
claire
clarification
and
we
didn't
anticipate
or
have
any
kind
of
estimate
of
what
would
be
going
toward
to
date
or
city
jurisdictions.
K
Madam
chairing
counselor,
it
really
is
based
on
what
the
sale,
what
the
demand
is
going
to
be,
and
so
I
think,
starting
in
april,
would
be
really
interesting
to
see
but,
based
on
you
know,
there's
been
an
economist
at
unm
that
looked
at
potential
revenue
estimates
a
couple
years
ago.
I
believe
santa
fe
was
around
700
000
a
year.
I
think
that
it's
probably
a
conservative
estimate,
but
I
may
be
wrong.
A
All
right
so
on
the
the
excise
tax
that's
imposed
by
the
state,
do
you
know
what
portion
goes
to
municipalities
or
local
governments.
A
K
A
Right
but
it's
oh
yeah,
okay,
all
right
any
other
questions
from
the
committee.
I
think
we're
ready
to
move
on
directors.
G
Okay,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
now
to
director
klux
and
he's
going
to
talk
about
the
land
use
regulations
in
chapter
14
and
how
we're
looking
at
that
moving
forward
so
jason.
If
you'd
like
to
sort
out.
L
Sure
thank
you,
director
brown,
so,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
for
having
us
here
tonight,
I'd
like
to
provide
an
update
on
the
land
use
issues,
including
the
scope,
review
and
recommendations
that
are
under
consideration
by
the
planning
commission
policy
subcommittee
and
also
proposed
schedule
to
approval
of
the
legislation.
L
L
So
just
first,
I
briefly
like
to
provide
a
status
overview
and
then
I'll
get
to
some
specific
details
for
your
benefit
that
weren't
included
and
we're
still
being
formulated
at
the
last
meeting
that
I'd
like
to
provide
now
so
staff
and
policy
commitment
policy
committee
members
have
been
working
diligently
on
recommendations
for
almost
a
month
now
and
have
been
acting
actively
seeking
feedback
and
reviewing
policy
proposals
of
other
municipalities
such
as
albuquerque
las
cruces
and
also
santa
fe
county
and
the
state,
and
then
they've
also
approached
other
states
that
have
previously
legalized
recreational
use
and
so
they've
also
discussed
their
progress
with
the
state
in
regards
to
the
urgency
of
the
policy
formation
and
received
feedback
that
the
city
is
currently
likely,
one
of
the
most
engaged
municipalities
after
albuquerque.
L
So
I
thought
that
was
really
good
to
hear.
So
the
team
has
had
two
meetings
and
with
the
third
plan
for
tomorrow
and
has
completed
much
of
the
needed
work
so
they're.
They
plan
to
finalize
recommendations
for
the
planning
commission
next
week
and
have
requested
a
public
hearing
to
be
held
on
at
the
august
5th
planning
commission
meeting
to
present
those
recommendations
for
discussion
and
approval
and
then,
at
the
end
of
this
presentation,
I'd
like
to
also
outline
the
entire
proposed
approval
schedule.
L
Just
you
know
for
everyone's
benefit,
so
you
know
regarding
the
planning
subcommittee,
specific
direction
and
working
progress
to
date.
I
wanted
to
just
restate
part
of
the
memo
that
was
presented
last
week,
so
they've
been
tasked
to
address
the
following
questions
based
on
that
july,
9th
memo,
the
staff
that
was
provided
to
governing
bodies,
an
informational
item
where
it
was
recommended
by
staff
that
the
city
consider
the
following
policy
questions
and
draft
amendments.
L
Should
the
city
adopt
operating
times
for
cannabis
establishments,
cannabis
used
to
be
located
a
minimum
distance
from
schools,
day
care,
centers,
religious
institutions
and
or
residential
neighborhoods?
It's
been
clarified,
since
this
came
out
that
religious
institutions
are
exempted
or
excluded
rather
in
the
in
the
state
law.
L
Should
the
city
adopt
regulations
to
allow
recreational
cannabis
consumption
areas?
Should
the
table
of
permitted
uses
be
revised
to
clarify
or
amend
the
zoning
districts
in
which
various
types
of
cannabis
establishments
may
be
located?
Eg?
Should
certain
zoning
districts
be
reserved
for
uses
other
than
cannabis
establishments
to
prevent
unintended
consequences,
such
as
a
proliferation
of
cannabis
establishments?
L
They
could
drive
other
businesses
out
or
cause
random
property
prices
to
go
up
and
then
should
the
definitions
in
chapter
14
be
amended
to
include
new
definitions
for
various
types
of
cannabis.
Establishments
are
chapter
14
amendments
needed
to
address
issues
related
to
the
historic
relations
preservation,
safety
and
security,
or
odors
and
ventilation,
and
then
what
should
the
process
be
for
conducting
stakeholder
outreach
and
community
conversations
prior
to
the
adoption
of
the
new
land
use
regulations
for
cannabis?
L
So,
given
those
initial
parameters,
the
following
key
issues
were
identified
and
are
under
discussion
by
by
staff
and
the
policy
subcommittee
for
recommendations
on
you
know
the
policy
and
potential
code
amendments.
L
So
I'd
like
to
just
go
over
those.
If
you
don't
mind,
they're
they're,
not
too
extensive,
but
I'd
like
to
just
I'd
like
to
give
you
this
background.
L
So
as
far
as
definitions,
given
that
definitions
will
appear
in
the
appropriate
sections
of
the
code
for
the
applicable
zoning
application,
such
as
retail
agriculture
or
apothecary,
for
example,
recommendations
being
considered
that
we
adopt
the
state
definitions
around
commercial
cannabis
where
possible
to
help
ensure
continuity
across
districts
and
then,
additionally,
other
independent
definitions
will
allow
us
to
apply
control
such
as
density
without
causing
exclusion.
L
Sorry,
it
could
be
applied
to
the
controlled
environment
of
traditional
agriculture
as
well,
also
to
apothecaries
retail,
indoor
and
outdoor
consumption
areas
and
and
then
define
and
clarify
you
know,
air
quality
controls
and
then
also
density
and
proximity
between
cannabis
locations,
schools,
daycare
and
alcohol
establishments
potentially
and
then,
like
I
said,
religious
institutions,
religious
institutions
are
specifically
excluded
by
the
state.
L
We
propose
to
identify
what
these
definitions
control
is
specifically
related
to
commercial
cannabis.
You
know
versus
other
commercial
uses,
so
then
on
density.
L
I
think
the
direction
that
the
policy
committee
is
headed
is
to
recommend
uniform
density
throughout
the
city
districts
wherever
possible.
You
know
this
will
be
the
desired
approach.
This
is
also
the
position
that
the
state
has
taken,
so
we
could
possibly
limit
consumption
on
the
plaza,
but
not
the
downtown
area.
L
Sorry,
just
consumption
sites
more
dense
in
certain
parts
of
town
places
cannabis
in
areas
where
more
out
of
state
dollars
will
be
spent
and
grt
can
be
collected.
So
that's
a
you
know,
specific
reason
why
we
don't
want
to,
you
know
necessarily
modify
density
downtown
and
then,
let's
see
special
use
and
consumption
depending
on
district
and
proximity
example.
Residential
sales.
L
So
you
know
there
there
may
be
zoning
and
uses
where
we
want
to.
You
know
require
a
special
use
permit,
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
that.
I
went
to
a
really
I
attended
a
really
interesting
meeting
at
the
new
mexico
municipal
league.
I
there's
a
workshop
they
had
this
morning.
L
Thank
you,
councillor
viral
for
forwarding
that
to
us,
and
so
so
I've
kind
of
thrown
in
some
of
their
recommendations
in
here,
and
so,
according
you
know,
on
on
the
note
of
density,
restrictions
based
on
overlay
districts
or
specific
zoning
districts
will
most
likely
bring
legal
challenges,
that's
their
opinion.
So
that's
why
you
know
in
their
in
their
wisdom.
L
Yeah,
there's
a
so,
and
the
state
was
weighing
in
that
the
existing
policy
can
be
utilized
where
and
for
now,
and
then
plant
limits
will
be
adopted,
starting
the
january
of
2022
2022
and
will
be.
It
will
apply
through
the
end
of
december
in
2025,
where
don't
when
they'll
be
reconsidered.
L
Water
rights
and
access
to
enough
water
is
also
an
issue
that
this
you
know
that
we're
concerned
about
and
that
the
state
is
bringing
up,
and
then
security
and
monitoring.
Considerations
for
agriculture,
including
waste
monitoring
disposal
locations,
will
be
dictated
by
the
municipality
and
then
also
concerned
about
adequate
supply
for
medical
use.
L
And
then
this
is
sort
of
related
to
zoning
and
also
consumption.
But
you
know
we
want
to
think
about
zoning
and
building
code
controls
on
odors.
L
So
then,
on
signage,
basically,
you
know
our
signage
code
is
very
elaborate
and
I
think
we'll
you
know
we
won't
have
to
make
many
changes
or
any
any
changes,
probably
to
the
signage
code.
Basically,
the
state
is
saying
you
know,
the
signage
you
know
has
to
be
the
signage
for
cannabis.
For
commercial
cannabis
has
to
be
the
same
as
any
other
commercial
used,
signage
that's
allowed,
and
basically
the
only
prohibition
would
be
on
emblems
or
language
that
would
be
considered
enticing
to
minors.
L
L
So
then,
on
enforcement
that
will
mainly
fall
on
police
and
fire
and
or
the
state
in
general
land
use
will
enforce,
based
on
violations,
specifics
of
land
development
and
building
code,
for
example,
zoning
life
safety
and
occupancy
violations.
L
Then,
while
I
think
you
know
we're
definitely
proposing,
I
think
it's
a
general
understanding
that
we
want
to
provide
the
legislation
for
zoning
et
cetera.
L
You
know
in
the
next
month,
they're
we're
contemplating
consumption,
but
that
probably
won't
be
addressed,
or
you
know
we're
recommending
that
it's
not
addressed
in
this
coming
legislation,
so
we're
yeah.
So
the
planning
subcommittee
is
contemplating
a
recommendation
that
consumption
should
be
considered
after
we
finish
this
first
round
and
then,
but
with
regard
to
zoning,
we
may
have
to
address
consumption.
L
L
See
yeah
so
general
constraint
is
that
we,
you
know
we
need
to
remain
conscious
of
treating
commercial
cannabis,
like
other
commercial
uses,
with
the
addition
of
reasonable
time,
placement
manner,
constraints
and
avoid
any
exclusionary
policies,
and
you
know,
and
potential
lawsuits
that
may
challenge
any
code.
Any
of
these
code
amendments
that
we
adopt
see
and,
as
a
note,
I
thought
it
was
interesting
to
hear
from
the
state
this
morning.
L
In
combination
with
retail
sales,
without
a
separate
license,
so
basically
any
commercial
use
will
have
to
have
individual
licenses
for
production,
retail
consumption
etc,
and
this
is
a
priority
for
the
state
to
be
addressed
later.
So
it's
not
it's
not
a
top
priority,
but
obviously
it's
a
priority
so
then
timeline
concerns.
So
the
state
understands
the
timeline
for
approvals
abbreviated.
L
L
The
current
zoning
ordinances
apply
until
new
rules
are
in
place
and
then,
after
licensing,
current
medical
retail
will
be
able
to
sell
automatically
according
to
the
state
up
to
75
for
commercial
use
and
then
immediately
you
know
after
licensing
and
then
five
percent
after
january.
First,
you
know
again
with
the
the
caveat
that
there
has
to
be
enough
availability
for
commercial,
for
excuse
me
for
medical
use.
L
There's
a
little
bit
of
back
and
forth
about
will
business
license
approval
require
a
license
from
the
state.
L
I
think
we
do
need
to
weigh
in
on
that,
because
you
know
we're
already
starting
to
get
some
of
these
requests.
So
then.
L
So
the
zoning
yeah,
so
the
zoning
certification
framework
for
recreational
use
we
need.
We
need
that
in
place
as
quickly
as
possible,
but
the
state
understands
that
there's
got
to
be
a
balance
between
a
reasonable
time
frame
to
wait
on
for
to
weigh
public
input
with
the
urgency
of
promulgating
the
ordinance.
You
know
with
specific
regulations,
so
they're
saying
that
applicants
must
have
a
state
license
to
apply
for
commercial
use,
so
right
now
there's
kind
of
an
indefinite
leeway.
L
L
I
think
everybody
probably
is
okay,
so
that's
I
just
wanted
to
get
into
that
kind
of
level
of
detail
with
you
all.
I
hope
it
was
a
little
bit
comprehensive
and
clear.
You
know
I
definitely
can
take
any
questions
on
on
that
content
and
then.
Lastly,
I
just
wanted
to
circle
back
about
the
approval
schedule,
so
we're
proposing
the
following
schedule:
to
provide
several
opportunities
for
public
hearing
and
complete
city
review
and
approval
of
legislation
by
august
25th.
L
So
I
understand
that
there's
a
tentative
728
meeting
that's
been
contemplated
for
a
governing
body.
Presentation
and
hearing
with
a
public
comment.
Welcome
then,
after
that,
on
august
5th,
the
planning
commission
is
planning
on
reviewing
recommendations
from
the
policy
subcommittee
for
formulation
of
the
legislation.
L
You
would
work
in
conjunction
with
the
city
attorney
to
actually
formulate
the
legislation
and
then
on
eight
nine
there's
a
proposed
special
governing
body
meeting
to
approve
a
request
to
publish
for
the
825
guardian
body
meeting
and
then
on
8
16,
a
finance
committee
finance
committee
meeting,
would
review
the
recommendations
from
the
policy
subcommittee,
but
not
the
legislation,
because
it
would
still
be
in
formulation
the
same
thing
for
the
age,
17,
public
safety
committee
and
then
the
818
quality
of
life
committee.
L
So
then
the
819
planning
commission
would
be
the
first
place
where
the
legislation
is
reviewed
and
are
recommend
recommended
for
approval
to
governing
body
and
then
that
legislation
will
be
carried
forward
on
823
to
public
works
and
utilities
committee
and
then,
finally,
on
825,
the
governing
body
for
a
public
hearing
and
approval
of
the
legislation,
and
that's
about
all
I
had
so
I'll
stand
for
any
questions
now.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
thank
you
for
the
detail.
Counselor
rivera
your
hand
is
up.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
jason's
permits,
sir
to
go
out
soon.
I
believe
you
said
it
was
for
manufacturing.
Will
the
state
have
any
guidance
on
water
on
disposal
of
products?
All
those
things
that
you
talked
about,
while
you
were
letting
us
know
about
the
water
issue?
Is
that
a
priority
for
them?
Will
they
have
it
done
before
september?
1St.
L
Madam
chair
council
rivera
thank
you
for
the
question,
so
I
I
honestly
have
to
say
I'm
a
little
bit
unclear
on
that.
I
know
that
this
you
know
the
state
is
actively
working
on
these.
You
know
decisions
as
well,
so,
but
in
general,
what
I
heard
today,
which
was
really
insightful.
You
know.
First
of
all,
as
I
already
noted,
it
will
be
the
responsibility
of
the
municipality
to
coordinate
the
disposal
of
waste,
but
the
state
has
issued
rules
where
the
that
waste
will.
You
know,
number
one.
L
It's
a
it's
a.
I
think
it's
basically
a
foregone
conclusion
and
an
understanding
that
that
waste
will
have
zero
thc
in
it.
That's
you
know
their
stance
and
then,
above
and
beyond
that
it
has
to
be
mixed.
Half
and
half
with
some
other
components,
such
as
dirt,
for
example,
and
it
can
be
indistinguishable.
L
C
A
little
bit
did
we
know,
do
we
know
much
about
disposal?
Can
we
just
go
into
a
regular
like
a
caja
del
rio,
just
a
dump
site,
or
is
there
any
recycled
component
or
compostable
component
to
it?.
L
A
Counselor,
if
I
can,
the
conversation
this
morning
was
about
grinding.
Whatever
waste
there
was
and
then,
as
as
director
clucas
said,
mixing
it
half
and
half
with
dirt
and
that
there
would
be
no
thc.
So
I
I
my
understanding
that
it
would
go,
you
know,
would
be
just
part
of
our
waste
regular
waste,
pickup
and
drop
off.
A
There
was
also
conversation
about
water
and
about
how,
in
order
to
get
a
license,
you
will
have
to
prove
that
you
have
a
water
source
and
that
you
actually
have
a
legal
right
to
it,
and
then
your
you
would
have
to
demonstrate
that
you
have
enough
water
to
produce
the
amount
that
you're
seeking
to
grow
and
that
they
will
track
that
and
see
that
what
you,
what
you're,
predicting
they'll,
be
tracking
after
say
a
year.
A
What
you're,
what
you
actually
used
and
and
very
carefully
monitoring
that
use
is,
is
what
we
heard
this
morning.
So
just
a
little
bit
more
to
fill
in.
C
All
right
so
jason
under
our
current
rules,
if
I
purchased
a
building
on
syria's
road-
and
I
wanted
to
put
a
car
wash
there,
what
are
the
rules
around
water
now.
L
So
that
would
go
through,
I
mean
likely
that
would
go
through
the
development
plan
process.
You
know,
given
the
the
square
footage
and
then
you
know
they
would
have
to
apply
for
water,
water,
offsets
or
acquire
water
rights.
You
know
as
part
of
that
development
process
and
then
those
would
have
to
be
you
know,
approved
and
signed
off
on
by
the
water
division.
You
know
prior
to
recreation
of
the
development
plan,
and
so
that
would
all
be
handled.
You
know
very
you
know,
early
in
the
planning
process
prior
to
any
actual
building
permitting.
L
C
The
water
division
on
do
you
know
if
there
have
been
any
programs
or
things
in
other
states
where
they
actually
reuse
water,
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
possible,
it's
just
a
question.
L
Yeah,
I
think
you
know,
based
on
the
the
recent
approval
of
the
you
know,
the
champion
car
wash
over
at
santa
fe
place
mall.
Sorry,
I
was
about
to
call
it
via
linda.
I've
been
in
here
way
too
long,
not
too
long.
I
love
it
here,
but
you
know
what
I
mean
most
of
my
life.
It
was
deal
with
it
anyway,
so
yeah
so
based
on
that
approval,
I
I
think
those
folks
made
it.
L
You
know
pretty
clear
that
that's
definitely
a
you
know
a
national
standard
now
that
this
recycling
and
reuse
and
that's
you
know,
they've
been
using
that
for
for
many
years.
You
know,
and
especially
you
know,
given
the
proposal
for
santa
fe.
L
Industry
now
I
apologize
no.
This
is
in
regard
to
the
the
example
that
you
were
using
as
far
as
a
a
car
wash
so.
C
L
Right,
well,
I
know
with
so
with
the
controlled
environment,
agriculture.
I
think
that's
part
and
parcel
to
it
where
they
do
recycle
that
water,
because
it
needs
to
remain
in
a
closed
loop.
You
know
like
ecosystem,
so
I
think
on
that
note,
if
there
is
controlled
environment
agriculture,
I
I
think
that
would
be
a
likely
scenario.
C
C
L
At
all
madam
chair
councillor,
various
I
can
I
can
speak
to
that,
so
it
has
come
up
indirectly
and
and
maybe
directly
with
zoning.
So
this
is
that's
more
of
a
building
code
issue
and
I
can
speak
to
that
in
a
minute.
So,
but
we,
you
know
they
are
looking
at
zoning
and
proximity
of
manufacturing.
L
You
know
just
like
the
county
in
albuquerque.
You
know
to
provide
a
reasonable
distance
from
you,
know,
residential
residentially,
zoned
areas
and
the
like
so
and
then
to
for
the
from
the
building
code
side.
So
there's
a
there's
a
bit
of
a
challenge
because
these
extraction
facilities
are,
you
know
they
they're
permitted
under
hazard,
one
in
the
building
code
and
that's
that's
an
icc.
L
L
As
long
as
it
has
the
you
know,
proper
isolation
by
code
so
to
move
that
building
out
and
have
it
separate,
would
would
put
it
into
an
h2
category
which
they're
not
currently
required
to
do
so
that
would
that
would
require
a
building
code
amendment,
and
you
know
after
those
explosions,
you
know
I
I
I
was
a
party
to
the
you
know
the
investigation
on
that
last
one
and
so
I've
got.
L
You
know,
intimate
knowledge
about
how
that
happened,
and
you
know
what
needs
to
what
needs
to
happen
in
the
future
to
avoid
that
and
that
can
all
be
covered
under
existing
building
code.
You
know
and
we're
you
know
that
our
language
staff
is
extremely
mindful
of
that.
At
this
point,
thank
you.
That's.
E
Rail.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
jason
for
your
presentation
and
information.
It
was
a
little
overwhelming
graphics.
Helped
me
understand
things
better.
I'm
sorry!
E
I
need
visuals,
and
so
I
guess
what
I
was
thinking
about
is
well
for
one.
Can
you
send
us
the
time
that
time
frame
just
to
let
us
know
when
this
public
comment
pieces
will
be
coming
up,
and
I
was
just
curious,
the
policy
subcommittee
did
they
get
any
community
input
on
how
they
were
coming
up
with
any
of
their
recommendations?.
L
So,
thank
you,
madam
chair
councillor
viral.
So
they
the
input
that
they've
gotten
is
from
you
know.
Other
municipalities
and
you
know
the
county
in
the
state.
They
have
not
done
any
public
engagement
proper,
you
know,
and
that
is
planned
to
happen.
You
know
periodically
through
this
process
and
the
way
they
plan
to
do
it
first
is
by
you
know
the
this
meeting
on
the
on
the
the
planning
commission
meeting
on
the
fifth
being
open
to
public
comment.
L
E
L
E
At
that
point,
they
would
already
be
making
presenting
recommendations
and
getting
feedback
from
that
presentation.
Is
that.
L
E
Okay,
the
reason
why
I
asked
is
las
cruces.
They
just
sent
out
a
cannabis
survey
to
their
to
the
public
and
it
was
actually
helpful
interesting.
It
was
like
more
proactive
about
what
people's
feelings
on
personal
home
cultivation
and
retail
locations
and
retail
regulations
and
cannabis
zoning,
and
I
don't
know
if
that
would
be
helpful
if
we're
already
at
this
point
to
just
get.
E
I
know
that
surveys
that
obviously
that's
not
going
to
get
a
whole
gamut
of
folks,
but
we
don't
get
a
whole
gamut
of
folks
always
in
our
public
hearings
either.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
this
would
be
helpful
for
you
all
to
just
see
how
they
did
this
to
see
if
we
can
utilize
some
kind
of
survey,
but
it's
obviously
modified
for
kind
of
what
we're
thinking.
E
I
know
there's
already
I
feel
like
I
don't
know
where
they're
at
las
cruces.
It
sounds
like
that
you
may
know,
but
it
doesn't
sound
like
they
have
the
kind
of
recommendations
in
order
yet
or
maybe
they
do
do.
You
know
where
they're
at
unless.
L
E
Well,
I
I
think
I'll
just
send
it
to
you
just
in
case
there's
anything
that
you
can
extract
from
that
to
get
any
kind
of
feedback
in
some
manner.
If
it's
helpful,
I
think
they're
doing
more
proactive
outreach
versus
having
something
in
front
of
the
public
to
say
what
do
you
think
or
like
recommendations
from
the
policy
subcommittee.
So
I
don't
know
I
don't
know
if
it's
helpful,
we
may
be
ahead
of
the
stage
than
they
are,
but
I'll
send
it
to
you
anyway,
and
just
so,
you
know
direct
round.
E
They
also
have
feedback
for
arp
funds
that
they're
getting
from
the
public
they're
asking
the
public
how
they
want
to
use
the
funds
for
that.
E
So
I'll,
send
that
to
you
too,
it
just
sounded
like
they
were
trying
to
get
as
much
feedback
in
these
two
areas
not
connected,
but
they
wanted
to
get
feedback
so
I'll.
Send
you
that
email
and
you'll
decide
if
it's
helpful
for
us
yeah.
G
I'm
chair,
council
burial.
I
was
going
to
say
that
I
think
we'd
love
to
have
it.
I
think
the
director
cho
and
I
will
work
with
jason
on
putting
together
a
survey.
I
think
that
is
correct,
that
while
we
might
get
not
go
deep
in
responses,
we'll
at
least
have
some
some
feedback
on
the
process
of
public
engagement
and
having
some
data,
because
data's
good,
whatever
it
comes
from
data,
is
always
good.
So,
okay.
E
E
L
Sure,
madam
chair
counselor,
via
real,
yes,
I
I
appreciate
your
concern
around
that
and
I
I
will
forward
that
to
them,
and
I
apologize
you
know
this.
You
know
these.
These
things
are
happening
really
quickly
and
we
have
so
many
other
irons
in
the
fire.
I
apologize.
We
didn't
have
time
for
visuals
on
this
one,
but
I
I
couldn't
agree
with
you
more
actually.
A
That's
all
I
have
men,
madam
chair,
okay,
counselor
rivera
oldham
new
hand
having
trouble
with
our
hands
tonight
guys
sorry
hold
hand.
J
Cassette,
thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
jason
yeah.
I
agree
with
it
with
councilman
vitoria.
Some
visuals
would
be
be
lovely
because
it
really
is
a
lot
to
bite
off
and
there's
just
so
much
happening
here,
but
I
definitely
appreciate
the
information
and
the
updates
just
to
confirm
going
back
to
what
councilwoman
vitoria
just
said
about
public
engagement
and
and
increasing
opportunities
for
that.
So
right
now
we
are
the
proposal
that
we'll
be
seeing
will
be
on
manufacturing
and
sales
and
personal
growth.
L
Right
so,
madam
chair
councillor,
cassette,
yes
in
a
nutshell,
that's
correct,
there's
not
so
much
emphasis
on
there
won't
be
so
much
emphasis
on
the
zoning
for
residential.
I
think
that
the
main
thrust
will
be
on
on
commercial
and
you
know,
and
the
relation
to
commercial,
the
relationship
of
commercial
and
residential,
but
not
necessarily
any
zoning
regarding
residential,
okay,
any
major
way.
J
Okay,
so
not
not
looking
at
that
as
much.
I
know
I
received
some
emails
from
that
because
I
believe
that
that
was
there
was
some
crossover
from
what
the
county
was
looking
at,
and
so
I
received
a
few
emails
from
individuals
basically
responding
to
to
the
county's
discussion.
So
I'm
curious
if
we
were
looking
at
that
at
all
and
then
the
consumption
piece
will
be
coming
later
and
I
you
know
we
maybe
are
a
little
bit
late
on
being
able
to
get
a
real,
robust
community
engagement.
J
But
I
do
think
the
the
consumption
piece
is
actually
kind
of
interestingly
complicated,
because
at
first
blush
you
might
say,
hey
it's
alcohol.
We
have
bars
but,
as
you
mentioned,
you
know,
there's
more
odors,
there's
kind
of
the
issue
of
secondhand
smoke,
so
I
think
that'll
be
another
real
opportunity
for
us
to
do
that.
Community
engagement,
so
looking
forward.
J
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
on
top
of
that
and
incorporating
that
community
engagement
piece
with
the
consumption
sites,
since
we
do
have
a
little
bit
more
time
before
those
proposals
will
be
coming
forward.
J
I
didn't
have
any
further
questions
right
now.
I
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
to
getting
some
more
comprehensive
information
about
this
and
and
to
getting
those
visuals
if
you're
able
to
get
us
those
visuals
even
before
the
council
meeting.
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
just
for
me
to
be
able
to
prepare.
You
know
for
for
that
meeting
for
that
publisher.
L
J
Yeah
yeah
definitely
well
so,
but
thank
you
so
much
for
your
work
and
and
please
pass
that
along
to
staff
in
the
policy
subcommittee.
I
know
that
they've
really
they've
been
working
very
hard
at
this
and
really
digging
in,
and
I
greatly
appreciate
the
the
time
and
effort
that's
gone
into
it.
Thank
you.
A
Okay-
and
I
just
have
a
couple
questions
so
we're
shorthanding
things
and
I
think
that
may
be
difficult
for
people
to
understand.
So
when
we
talk
about
consumption,
we
are
talking
about
regulating
places
where
you
could
consume
cannabis
in
public,
like
bars.
L
L
A
When
we
talk
about
that,
we
need
to
be
clear
because
you
can
consume
it
lots
of
places.
But
what
we're
talking
about
is
the
fact
that
we,
as
the
city
will
have
the
ability,
I
believe,
to
decide
where
consumption
is
allowed,
where
consumption
facili
businesses
will
be
allowed.
Is
that
right
or
whether
we
allow
them.
A
Okay
and-
and
it's
also
my
understanding
that
the
reason
that's
coming
later
is
that
that
that
you
know
we
are
waiting
for
the
state
to
give
us
the
rules
about
this
and
then
we'll
fill
in
so
they.
This
is
not
a
priority
at
the
state
levels,
they're
going
to
focus
on
the
the
production,
the
manufacturing,
the
the
sales
and
then
move
to
where
you
can
consume
it
in
a
supervised
fashion.
Yeah,
yes,
ma'am
sure,
that's
that's
my
understanding
as
well.
All
right,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
those
couple
things
all
right.
A
Director
brown.
I
think
we
are
ready
to
take
director
clue
off
the
hot
seat.
G
Okay,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
So
next
we'll
have
john
mertz
and
he
has
a
short
presentation
for
the
visuals
and
I
will
open
that
up
and
have
mr
merch
speak
to
it.
M
Okay,
great
thank
you
rich,
so
it's
great
to
be
here
to
this
evening,
so
I
just
wanted
to
walk
through
a
little
bit
of.
L
M
We
support
social
entrepreneurs
in
the
santa
fe
area
and,
as
we
started
to
begin
to
look
at
what
the
entrepreneurial
interest
would
be
in
this,
we
took
at
least
a
service
look
at
what
other
cities
and
states
are
doing,
and
emily
highlighted
this
earlier
in
her
presentation.
But
it
was
interesting
to
note
that
that
a
lot
of
state
or
several
states
and
cities
are
focusing
on
social
and
racial
justice
programs
to
and
how
they
support
cannabis
entrepreneurs
and
they're.
M
And
so
the
next
slide.
Colorado
is
one
of
the
states
that
popped
up.
As
far
as
some
of
the
things
that
they're
working
on
from
the
state
level
level
they're
providing
funding
for
entrepreneur,
programs
in
the
in
the
state
and
providing
loans,
grants
and
technical
assistance,
especially
around
again
that
social
equity
piece
for
entrepreneurs
in
their
state
and
they're,
really
looking
at
the
social
equity
in
a
number
of
one
of
three
ways.
M
If
an
applicant
or
an
immediate
family
member
was
arrested
or
convicted
for
marijuana
offense,
whether
they're
in
an
economic
disadvantaged
area
and
then
also
just
on
the
income
threshold,
so
in
looking
at
how
they're
supporting
entrepreneurs
in
their
state
around
the
social
equity
piece,
those
are
the
areas
which
there
are
seem
to
be
focusing
oregon
and
the
next
slide
is
really
how
oregon
is
doing,
and
so
it's
kind
of
a
similar
approach
in
that
they're
supporting
organizations
that
support
entrepreneurs
around
cannabis
and
in
the
city
of
portland
as
an
example,
they
actually
passed
an
added
tax,
then
that
supports
organizations
and
entrepreneurs
that
have
been
negatively
impacted
in
the
past,
and
so
they
have
a
very
active
program
that
is
supporting
entrepreneurs
and
providing
ongoing
funding
for
programs
that
support
entrepreneurs
in
this
this
new
industry.
M
And
so
as
we
look
at
you
know
on
the
next
slide,
you
know
again
santa
fe
innovates.
You
know
we're
focused
on
social
entrepreneurs,
which
is
a
mix
of
profit
and
purpose
with
it
embedded
within
a
business
and
in
new
mexico
that
could
be
a
benefit
corporation.
M
F
M
Yeah
next
slide,
so
we
take
them
through
a
program.
We've
worked
with
over
two
dozen
entrepreneurs
over
the
past
year
and
helping
them
iterate
test
and
advance
kind
of
their
early
stage
idea
and
then
also
work
with
them
on
ongoing
mentoring,
as
they
continue
to
advance
their
business
and
so
the
next
slide.
M
We
did
some
research
on
some
of
the
top
cannabis
consulting
firms
around
the
us
and
we
reached
out
to
kenna
advisors,
which
is
based
in
older
and
we're
hosting
event
on
august
17th,
for
them
to
provide
some
insights
on
what
is
the
market?
M
What
is
the
industry
trends
so
truly
from
our
standpoint,
trying
to
get
an
insight
into
the
entrepreneurial
interest
within
santa
fe
to
start
a
business
in
this
space,
and
we
believe
that
having
some
of
those
market
insights
could
either
help
them
along
the
way
and
figure
out
if
they
want
to
participate
in
in.
G
M
Industry
or
may
spark
an
idea
after
participating
in
this
event
to
have
a
little
bit
more
understanding
and
so
the
next
slide.
The
candidate
advisors
has
worked
with
a
number
of
states
around
some
of
their
entrepreneurial
programs
and
actually
the
speaker
that
we'll
have
on
august
17th
as
a
native
santa
fe
native
greg
huffaker
will
be
walking
through
the
topics
on
on
the
17th,
and
the
final
slide
is
just
a
little
more
of
an
agenda
on
this
event,
which
is
to
provide
an
overview
of
the
cannabis
market.
M
The
types
of
businesses
that
could
be
possibilities
for
entrepreneurs
here
in
our
city
and
then
really
look
at
some
of
the
industry
and
competitive
trends
and
the
risks
and
opportunities
that
entrepreneurs
would
need
to
consider
if
they're
thinking
about
starting
a
business
in
this
space.
M
So
I
guess
in
summary,
you
know
we're
interested
to
see
kind
of
see
how
things
have
unfold
and
I
guess
like
it,
may
be
any
good
entrepreneur.
We
wanted
to
really
understand
the
market
more
and
provide
an
opportunity
for
entrepreneurs
in
our
city
to
do
the
same
and
then
test
the
market
to
see
what
the
interest
is
and
whether
we
would
design
a
program
essentially
to
support
these
special
type
of
entrepreneurs
focused
on
this
industry.
M
So
with
that
I'll
close
out
my
presentation
and
be
welcome
any
questions.
A
Thank
you.
I
I
before
we
go
to
the
hands
that
that
event
you
have
on
the
17th
is
that
live
or
on
zoom.
M
It's
soon
and
there's
no
cost
it's
just
a
public
event,
and
as
of
as
of
today,
we
haven't,
we
just
started
promoting
it
over
the
last
week,
and
so
our
promotion
will
get
much
more
active
here
over
the
next
few
weeks.
But
right
now
we
have
a
a
dozen
people
registered
for
the
event.
M
Okay,
but
we're
expecting
quite
a
few
more
than
that.
Yep.
A
All
right,
councilwoman,
villarreal.
E
E
I
want
us,
and
at
least
in
santa
fe,
to
be
a
model
for
that,
since
I
feel
like
states
that
first
came
online
with
legalization
of
cannabis,
totally
missed
that
mark,
especially
colorado,
so
I'm
hoping
new
mexico
and
santa
fe
will
be
better
about
that
just
curious,
so
the
santa
fe
innovates
is
that
also
with
creative
startups.
Maybe
this
is
for
director
brown.
E
Is
that
the
connection
you
all
are
making
with
community
members
that
want
to
learn
more
about
how
to
hone
in
on
developing
their
business
was?
That
is
that
the
same
program
that
you
all
are
connected
with
santa
fe
innovates.
G
G
So
there's
a
public
purpose
to
the
ideas
that
you're,
generating
and
created
startups
is
a
separate
business
incubator
that
right
now
is
working
in
the
food
industry
sector
for
the
city,
but
they
do
mainly
focus
on
the
creative
economy
and
so
they've
sort
of
morphed
over
between
creative
economy
and
the
food
sector,
and
they
do
food
sector
locally,
but
but
john
mercs
and
his
company,
which
he
founded.
G
This
accelerator
is
focused
on
businesses
that
want
to
grow
and
they
also
bring
a
social
benefit
to
the
work
they're
doing
and
john.
I
forgot
the
slogan
you
have
about
having
a
business
with
a
social
benefit,
there's
some
where
business
begins
with
seoul.
Yes,
business
is
sold,
yeah,
so
yeah,
and
so
we
we
are
supporting
city
santa
fe,
supporting
the
efforts
of
senate
innovates,
as
it
relates
to
those
businesses
that
are
out
there
that
are
actually
looking
to
give
back
based
upon
what
their
business
model
is.
All
about.
E
So
are
does
identify,
innovates
have
not
clients,
but
community
members
that
are
going
through
some
kind
of
training
right
now.
M
Not
at
this
moment
we
wrapped
up
an
early
stage
program
about
a
month
ago
and
we
had
15.
Entrepreneurs
participate
in
that
program
and
then
we
have
another
10
to
12
mentors
volunteers
that
are
business.
People
who
work
with
our
entrepreneurs
through
the
program
then
as
well.
E
I'm
just
curious.
I
have
two
two
folks,
I
know
well
that
have
said
they.
Wouldn't
I
don't
know
if
they
went
through
the
innovates
program
or
the
creative
startups,
but
said
it
was
extremely
helpful
and
one
of
them's
actually
starting
a
food
cart
down
at
the
plaza
soon.
So
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
commend
you
all
for
doing
those
programs,
because
some
local
folks
that
don't
necessarily
have
the
financial
means
to
start
up
a
business.
E
I
think
that's
the
biggest
piece
here,
especially
even
with
entrepreneurialism
around
cannabis,
to
figure
out
how
folks
that
were
in
the
informal
market
before
it
was
legal
to
be
able
to
to
be
able
to
transform
or
transfer
their
knowledge
so
that
they
can
actually
formalize
it.
I'm
curious
to
see
how
that
that
will
what
that
will
look
like
for
you
all
and
what
was
the
other
question
I
had.
I
think
it
was
just
making
sure
we
advertise
this.
E
I
don't
know
if
it's
on
social
media,
but
I
know
folks
that
would
want
to
attend
that
presentation
on
the
17th
they'll
be
interested
in
hearing
more
about
that.
So,
what's
the
plan
to
to
announce
that
again.
M
Yeah,
so
from
our
standpoint,
yes,
definitely
through
our
social
media
channels,
primarily
twitter,
twitter,
facebook
and
linkedin
will
be
and
have
been,
promoting
the
event.
We've
also
will
be
working
with
the
city
economic
development
to
include
it
in
the
calendar,
and
I've
also
contacted
the
state
economic
development
department
to
see
if
they
would
also
highlight
highlighted
on
their
calendar
of
events.
M
So
we've
been
pretty
successful
if
you
will
on
getting
you
know,
30
to
40
people
attend
our
open
workshops
like
this,
so
we're
hopeful
that
we'll
have
similar
interests
in
in
the
cannabis
space,
especially
again
from
from
our
standpoint
and
and
obviously
from
the
city's
standpoint.
It'll
be.
You
know
a
little
bit
of
a
test
market
to
see
what
the
interest
is
from
an
entrepreneurial
perspective
in
this
industry.
Here
in
our
city,
that's
good.
G
Yes,
I'm
sure
council
be
real
yes,
so
we
will
work
with
john,
as
he
said,
on
our
ed
newsletter.
It'll
go
out
in
the
newsletter,
I'll
probably
be
in
our
weekly
wrap-up,
which
has
a
very
large
viewing
audience
and
we'll
probably
also
try
to
get
a
radio
spot
that
we
can
have
an
interview
with
john
some
of
the
advisors
that
he
has
to
get
out
there.
K
suave
is
a
perfect
example
places
we
might
go
and
then
to
hutton.
G
Also,
and
then
one
of
my
staff
members
has
started
a
facebook
page
for
small
businesses.
We
have
a
lot
of
tiny
businesses,
but
they
are
serial
entrepreneurs,
so
they
might
just
have
one
business
and
want
to
jump
into
another
because
they
understand
how
to
run
a
business.
So
we'll
also
probably
add
that
to
our
facebook
page
for
small
businesses
that
we
just
launched.
A
G
Well,
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
wrap
up.
I
could
thank
you
guys
for
the
time,
but
I
just
want
to
wrap
up
with
a
couple
key
takeaways
that
I
know
there
was
a
lot
of
presentations
a
lot
of
data,
but
I
just
wanted
to
do
so
a
couple
of
takeaways.
I
hope
that
we
were
able
to
relay
that.
We've
conducted
a
survey
that
helps
define
revenue,
uses
and
community
health
and
safety
approaches.
G
Police,
legal
and
hr
have
reviewed
and
changed
policy,
and
we
already
have
many
provisions
on
our
zoni
code
that
actually
regulate
growing
manufacturing,
apothecaries
and
retail
sales,
and
we've
been
able
to
make
some
minor
adjustments
to
the
sixteen
code
and
we'll
be
able
to
expand
upon
existing
permitted
uses
and
create
new
definitions
of
anticipated
recreational
cannabis
and,
as
you've,
seen
from
john's
presentation,
we're
starting
to
sponsor
programming
for
early
entrepreneur,
opportu
opportunities.
G
So
this
is
a
first
of
many
presentations
that
we'll
get
out
we're
going
to
tie
it
into
public
comment.
We'll
also
probably
come
back
to
quality
life
committee
as
we
get
our
updates
and
after
september,
as
you
know,
we're
all
kind
of
trying
to
be
in
under
unpaced
with
the
state
regulation
licensing
department.
So
we
wanted
to
at
least
express
that
we
are
actually
being
proactive
about
getting
the
cannabis
industry.
Update
and
running
from
the
city
standpoint
so
hope
that
we're
able
to
do
that.
A
Thank
you-
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
our
guests,
emily
and
john
for
being
here
tonight
and
helping
provide
the
presentations
and
the
information
as
we
get
moving
here,
and
I
think
just
also
for
the
public.
There
will
be
public
comment.
My
understanding
at
next
week's
council
meeting
sort
of
just
an
open
mic
kind
of
idea.
A
The
planning
commission
on
august
5th
is
a
public
hearing
on
their
rec
on
the
policy
policy
committee's
recommendations
that
I
think
the
planning
commission
will
be
adopting
that
night
and
then,
of
course,
when
it,
when
the
legislation
gets
to
the
governing
body.
For
final
passage,
that's
also
going
to
be
a
public
hearing,
so
multiple
places
along
the
way
to
interject
and,
of
course,
emails
to
counselors,
also
another
avenue
so
just
wanna
underscore
that
all
right
anything
else
on
this
are
we.
C
Want
to
comment
about
our
own
in-house
procedures.
I
know
we
have
several
drug
testing
policies
and
this
may
affect
those
and
it
would
be
nice
to
since
collective
bargaining
agreements
are
sometimes
three
years
in
advance
that
our
three-year
contracts
that
we
do
have
the
ability,
maybe
to
look
at
it
sooner
than
later
and
make
recommendations.
Maybe
it
doesn't
change,
but
I
hope
hr
is
looking
at
some
potential
changes
that
may
benefit
the
city
as
well.
Under
this
new
law.
A
C
A
Thank
you
councillor,
all
right.
We
will
move
on
then.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
matters
from
staff,
no
matters
for
me
tonight,
madam
chair.
All
right.
Thank.