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A
Okay,
we
are
live
on
youtube
502.
We
will
call
the
september
15th
meeting
of
the
quality
of
life
committee
to
order
and
ms
diaz.
If
we
can
get
a
roll
call,
that'd
be
terrific.
C
A
Romero
wirth-
I
am
here,
thank
you
all
right.
We
have
a
quorum.
All
committee
members
are
present,
we
will
go.
Are
there
changes
ms
diaz
to
the
agenda
for
tonight
from
staff
med?
I'm
sure
I'm
not
aware
of
any
changes,
okay,
terrific
and
if
we
could
get
a
motion
from
the
committee.
A
Second
promotion
from
councilwoman
via
real
in
a
second
from
councilwoman
cassette.
We
need
a
roll
call
on
this
vote
as
well:
counselor,
garcia,
garcia.
C
C
A
Motion
passes.
Thank
you.
We
have
the
minutes
from
our
september
first
meeting.
Are
there
changes
to
those
minutes
from
staff.
A
D
A
All
right
we're
gonna
move
quickly
to
the
approval
of
the
consent
agenda.
There's
a
little
bit
of
out
of
order
here
are
there
items
the
committee
would
like
to
pull
tonight.
A
A
With
that,
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda,
move
to
approve,
as
amended
second
motion
from
councillor
cass
at
a
second
from
councillor
via
real,
to
approve
the
consent
agenda.
As
amended,
can
we
have
one
more
roll
call,
counselor,
garcia.
C
C
E
A
Terrific,
we
will
start
now
with
presentations,
we
have
liz
camacho
and
the
unm
team
I'll.
Let
you
introduce
those
folks.
We
have
a
presentation,
stir
labs,
update,
so
liz
if
you
want
to
take
it
away,
we'd
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
certainly.
F
Well,
I
like
that
the
team
actually
introduced
themselves.
We
had
previously
presented
on
this
when
we
started
the
collaboration
and
so-
and
I
think
we
have
wellington
who's
here
with
us.
If
you
want
to
start
the
introductions
and
hand
off
wellington.
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Yes,
wellington
hispanic
here,
I'm
a
faculty
at
anderson,
school
of
management
and
have
worked
in
this
project
for
the
last,
not
sure.
Now,
almost
a
year
now,
eight
months
and
yeah,
my
research
and
teaching
revolve
around
sustainable
business
management.
You
know
pass
to
manuel
now
to
introduce
himself.
H
Hello
everyone,
madam
chair,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
and
for
the
time
on
the
agenda.
It's
a
pleasure
to
meet
you
all,
and
my
name
is
manuel
montoya,
I'm
a
member
of
the
unm
team,
I'm
a
professor
at
the
anderson
school
of
management.
I
Hi,
thank
you
manuel
and
wellington,
and
for
this
opportunity,
nancy
lewis,
with
the
unm
innovation
academy
and
the
director
of
the
canopy
for
creative
collaboration.
I'm
happy
to
be
here.
H
Yep,
thank
you
very
much.
I
do
want
to
recognize
john
mertz
and
patrick
duran,
who
are
part
of
the
team
out
of
santa
fe
and
santa
fe
los
alamos
labs
respectively.
H
There
are
also
attendees
on
the
list
here
and
also
mariah,
tomad
and
and
liz
camacho,
especially
she's,
basically
been
holding
everything
in
this
project
together,
and
we
appreciate
the
collaboration
and
her
leadership
through
the
city,
so,
on
behalf
of
the
team,
thanks
everybody
for
your
time,
I'll
make
this
as
quick
as
possible.
H
I
want
to
be
respectful
of
your
time
today
but,
as
you
may
already
know,
the
city
of
santa
fe
and
unm
in
partnership
with
other
collaborators
in
the
region
of
northern
new
mexico,
received
a
national
science
foundation,
grant
called
sterlabs
it's
a
research
program
that
helps
create
academia
and
government
collaboration
that
tries
to
focus
on
how,
to
you
know,
accelerate
community
impact
using
using
research,
but
also
using
academic
expertise
and
local
community
leadership,
and
the
project
that
we
were
doing
initially
was
intended
to
study
certain
factors
related
to
youth
retention
of
talent,
particularly,
I
don't
like
the
term
necessarily
brain
drain,
but
it's
probably
the
term
that
most
most
everybody
hears
about.
H
When
we
talk
about
the
flight
of
human
resources
from
new
mexico
and
more
more
in
particular,
we
were
talking
about
how
the
tech
sector-
and
I
do
put
that
in
quotes
tech
sector
how
that
sector
was
dealing
with
issues
of
retaining
or
recruiting
talent
from
new
mexico.
H
H
We
looked
at
data
that
the
city
has
on
its
portal,
all
of
the
data
research
and
all
of
the
different
ways
in
which
we
can
think
about
how
youth
are
impacted
by
the
economic
development
of
the
state
and
specifically
the
introduction
of
new
innovations
within
the
technology
sector,
and
we
found
out
in
our
initial
conversations
so
just
to
give
you
a
sense
for
what
we
were
allowed.
H
Through
sister,
we
were
given
12
weeks
to
develop
12
16
weeks
with
12
weeks
of
research
to
develop
a
a
research
project
and
that
that
allows
us
and
the
funding
was
actually
geared
towards
getting
sterlabs,
to
give
us
coaching
and
some
sort
of
facilitation
to
get
these
get
these
ideas
together.
And
what
I'm
going
to
show
you
now
in
this
slideshow.
H
You
know-
forgive
me
the
the
framing
here,
but
we
we,
we
moved
very
quickly
from
that
initial
question
of
tech
sector,
to
historical
to
brain
drain,
to
try
to
ask
more
specifically
what
were
the
explicit
and
ex
implicit
and
explicit
messages
that
the
tech
industry
is
sending
to
residents
of
new
mexico,
specifically
in
the
city
of
santa
fe
and
I'll.
H
Tell
you
why
the
main
thing
that
happened
in
our
discussions
there
were
very
lively
discussions
was
we
started
to
have
a
not
necessarily
a
disagreement,
but
there
was
a
great
variety
of
ways
in
which
we
were
understanding
the
word
tech
sector
and
how
technology
has
impacted
different
parts
of
of
northern
new
mexico
and,
of
course,
a
lot
of
people
immediately.
Think
about
los
alamos
national
labs
and
they
think
about
other
kinds
of
technologies.
H
But
but
upon
further
inspection,
we
wanted
to
think
a
little
bit
more
broadly
about
what
technology
means
to
new
mexicans
and
how
technology
is
changing.
The
way
that
we
view
these
kind
of
monolithic,
cultural
values
that
are
out
there
and-
and
so
we,
we
shifted
our
question
to
think
about
this
tech
messaging.
Like
what
does
the
tech
industry
look
like
to
new
mexicans
and
what
kind
of
institutional
message
historically
has
been
given
to
people,
or
what
kind
of
sentiments
have
been
developed
over
time
around
this
concept
of
technology?
H
And
what
is
the
impact
of
that
messaging
on
central
and
northern
new
mexico
communities?
And
that
became
a
much
richer
conversation?
We
decided
that
we
weren't
going
to
in
16
weeks
do
a
really
big,
in-depth
research
project
that
was
not
going
to
be
possible.
We
weren't
going
to
produce
data
that
you
could
do
much
with
in
that
short
period
of
time,
but
what
we
could
do
was
we
could
create
a
kind
of
preliminary
research
foundation
for
people
to
do
a
whole
bunch
of
really
interesting
things
with,
and
so
that's
what
we
did.
H
We
we
we
decided
to
get
a
couple
of
people
from
various
groups
and
organizations,
community
leaders
that
represent
different
perspectives
of
what
technology
could
look
like,
and
we
started
to
ask
questions
about
what
they
think
technology
is
and
we
separated
out
into
six
conversations
composed
of
five
different
groups:
people
that
represented
media
technology,
laboratory
technology
and
included,
and
that
was
also
biological,
labs,
agricultural
and
land-based
technology,
infrastructural
technology
and
software
and
computing
technology
and
the
whole
point
of
it
was
to
actually
build
out
a
script
and
to
have
a
dialogue
where
we
kind
of
broke
broke.
H
The
assumptions
we
made
about
what
technology
is
and
what
were
the
major
historical
moments
in
new
mexico
that
that
actually
established
a
presence
for
a
certain
kind
of
technology.
A
really
great
example
that
I
use
when
I'm
talking
about
this
is
in
agricultural
and
land-based
technology.
H
We
don't
normally
think
of
sheep
herding
as
a
technology
or
we
don't
think
of
like
the
development
of
different
changes
in
the
ascetia
systems
as
technologies.
Not
when
we
compare
that
to
a
nuclear
weapon
or
to
the
development
of
some
biological
advancement
in
in
lab
technology,
but
they're
all
technologies,
and
they
all
have
very,
very
real
impacts
on
the
way
that
people
produce
and
consume
and
the
way
they
think
about
life
in
new
mexico,
and
so
we
decided
to
have
discussions
about
like
breaking
down
a
little
broader
sense
of
what
what
these
technologies
look
like.
H
And
basically,
I
followed
a
model
of
community-based
research
to
uncover
these
assumptions
about
these
complexities.
The
sociologist
raymond
williams
often
refers
to
this
as
structures
of
feeling
and
basically
that's
what
we
wanted
to
do.
We
wanted
to
identify
these
kind
of
institutional
sentiments
about
technology
over
time
when
we
had
these
dialogues-
and
we
had
promised
that
everybody
that
participated
in
them
would
be
anonymized
that
they
would
participate
in
these
one
one
to
one
in
hour
and
15
minute
conversations,
but
that
they
wouldn't
be
disclosed.
H
H
In
those
discussions-
and
they
were
very
lively
discussions-
they
were
very
powerful
discussions
and,
in
fact,
as
a
team,
we
we
would
meet
afterwards,
and
we
would
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
we
learned
about
new
mexico
and
even
for
those
of
us
that
have
lived
in
new
mexico,
all
our
lives
or
for
those
of
us
that
have
come
with
different
different
skill
sets
and
different
frames
of
life
experiences.
H
We
all
agreed
that
there
was
a
great
variety
of
ways
in
which
we
had
learned
about
about
our
about
this
state
and
northern
new
mexico
in
particular,
but
the
key
takeaways
were
pretty
clear.
One
of
them
is
that
the
data
produced
and
the
big
story
about
our
economic
destiny
is,
I
would
say,
conservatively,
is
somewhat
disconnected.
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
powerful
disconnections
that
we
could
pay
attention
to
and
specifically
the
way
that
people
view
technologies
and
how
they
authentically
engage
in
certain
communities.
H
The
other
part
is
that
the
vocabulary
we
use
to
talk
about
economic
development.
So
when
we
say
tech
sector,
or
we
say
progress
or
we
use
like
words
like
modernity
like
modernize,
something
those
words
mean
a
great
deal
of
different
things
to
different
people
and
stakeholders
in
the
community.
And
so
we
actually
did
an
exercise
inside
of
the
discussions
where
everybody
had
to
identify
words
that
triggered
a
strong
emotional
response.
H
And
we,
after
that,
we
did
a
discourse
analysis
with
a
media
company
that
tried
to
cross-reference
that,
with
with
different
sentiments
in
news
outlets
and
different
criticisms
that
people
have
had
of
successful
entrepreneurial
activity.
That
we
would
say
is
related
to
the
tech
sector
and
and
by
and
large.
Those
vocabularies
were
pretty
consistent
in
in
in
representing
certain
hardened
sentiments
across
different
groups
of
people,
and
those
words
are
used
that
used
to
tell
that
story.
H
Those
triggers
are
actually
pretty
powerful,
and
so
it
actually
reinforced
this
idea
that,
if
we're
going
to
talk
meaningfully
about
like
getting
the
tech
sector
into
communities
in
a
more
meaningful
way,
we
had
to
take
a
step
back
and
really
think
about
both
what
technology
is
and
how
we
treat
new
mexico
as
a
space.
H
And
that
leads
to
the
next
point,
which
is
that
new
mexico
is
neither
an
empty
space
nor
a
completed
narrative
and
a
lot
of
those
discussions
that
we
had.
I
think
in
terms
of
quality
of
life,
and
I
think,
that's
most
germane
to
what
you
guys
are
doing
in
the
committee.
H
That's
my
presumption,
but
I
I've
been
thinking
a
lot
about
this
presentation
and
about
social
cohesion
and
and
and
this
kind
of
idea
of
new
mexico
not
being
an
empty
space
or
a
completed
narrative
is
the
sort
of
thing
the
the
data
and
the
messaging
inside
of
these
distant
groups,
because
it's
uneven
and
because
there's
not
really
a
dialogue
across
those
historical
or
ideological
boundaries.
I
think
I
think
they
present
some
opportunities
for
us
to
address
what
we
can
classically
call
the
reinforcement
of
an
insider
insider
outsider
dynamic.
H
We
use
the
word
called
technoscapes,
it's
actually
drawn
from
an
expert
in
the
field
of
cultural
geography,
and
the
idea
is,
if
you
create
a
landscape
of
technology,
if
you
looked
at
it
as
a
map
and
to
see
how
it
moves
over
time.
How
do
we
think
about
the
new
mexico
landscape
as
it
relates
to
technology
and
one
by
using
that
that
language
we
were
able
to,
in
our
report,
really
kind
of
try
to
reframe
everything?
How
how
these
tensions
about
progress
and
development?
H
How
they're
working
on
a
map
in
relation
to
technology,
and
so
there's
certain
key
kind
of
focal
points
on
the
map,
particularly
in
relation
to
the
los
alamos
espanola
complex,
but
there's
also
other
elements
of
northern
new
mexico
that
we
can
actually
see
playing
out
when
we
put
these
keywords-
and
we
put
these
technologies
in
conversation
with
each
other,
that
that
leads
to
a
major
takeaway,
which
is
that
technology
isn't
relegated
to
any
one
thing
and
broadening
that
discussion
helps
broaden
the
possibilities
for
effective
change,
and
that
was
really
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
really
proud
of
in
the
discussion
across
all
of
the
partners
in
the
group
is
that,
even
though
we
realize
there's
a
lot
of
historical
tensions
and
emotional
triggers
when
we
talk
about
technology,
progress
and
modernity,
and
all
of
these
keywords,
there
really
is
a
great
room
for
opportunity
to
affect
social
change
and
to
actually
create
a
more
meaningful
dialogue
than
we
have
before.
H
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
recommended
just
generally
from
the
report
was
that
this
report
was
just
the
start
of
things
that
you
can
use
it
as
a
as
a
springboard
for
producing
public
information
that
encourages
entrepreneurs
in
the
tech
sector
and
even
community
members
who
are
receiving
that
information
to
rethink
the
places
they
occupy
and
what
affects
their
ability
to
speak
and
be
heard
in
the
context
of
technology
and
that
that
can
be.
You
know
something
in
terms
of
like
wise
counsel
dialogues.
H
It
can
manifest
in
a
bunch
of
different
ways,
but
even
just
knowing
that
and
having
that
as
part
of
the
discussion,
we
believe
is
a
really
important
thing
that
we
backed
up
with
the
preliminary
process
we
did.
The
second
is
that
we
use
the
information
in
the
technoscape
model
to
ask
how
current
economic
strategies
reinforce
those
territorial
boundaries
that
disconnect
disconnect
communities,
and
so
you
know
a
lot
of
tech.
H
H
If
that
dialogue
preceded
any
of
these
other
kinds
of
initiatives
where
people
tried
to
engage
a
startup
and
then
kind
of
after
the
fact
recruit
to
the
public
thinking
that
the
public
is
kind
of
a
blank
space
that
then
can
be
talked
to,
you
know
in
in
the
language
that
any
entrepreneur
or
anybody
else
is
used
to
talking
to
anybody,
and
the
third
thing
that
we
recommended
was
that
we
use
these
technoscapes
as
a
way
to
do.
H
Youth
outreach
exercises
to
have
a
dialogue
about
new
mexico's
economic
destiny
and
the
place
that
youth
imagined
themselves
to
be
in
a
good
opera.
A
good
analogy
for
this
is
actually
I
am
working
with
another
group
out
of
innovation
academy,
which
nancy
is
affiliated
with
to
try
to
do.
H
Rural
outreach
for
native
american
communities
throughout
the
state
in
relation
to
craft
entrepreneurship,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
is
using
this
technoscapes
model
to
get
people
to
think
about
why
a
technology
matters
in
the
way
that
it
does,
particularly
with
the
onset
of
3d,
printing
and
other
things
that
have
a
direct
influence
on
traditional
craft
practices.
H
So
there's
lots
of
ways
in
which
this
can
be
applied,
but
just
generally
encouraging
youth
to
have
this
conversation
already
predisposes
or
sets
up
a
dynamic
where
there's
a
kind
of
a
built-in
dialogue
in
a
future
generation
that
adapts
to
this
kind
of
information.
I
think
in
a
more
dynamic
way,
but
that's
the
reader's
digest
version
of
what
we
did,
and
I
I
have
other
colleagues
here
on
the
call
that
I
would
call
on
to
answer
any
questions
that
the
committee
may
have.
H
A
Thank
you
for
your
pen.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
tonight
and
for
the
work
you're
doing
do
we
have
questions
from
the
committee.
E
Councilwoman
vrael,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
hope
you
all
can
hear
me.
I
was
having
technical
difficulties,
but
I
did
hear
most
of
your
presentation,
dr
montoya
good,
to
see
you
again
in
a
different
context,
and
I
actually
found
this
report
very
fascinating.
E
Considering
some
of
my
thesis
work
was
connected
to
this,
but
more
related
to
the
planning
world
community
planning
at
unm.
So
I
I
didn't
really
have
questions.
I
guess
I
was
just
thinking
about
it.
I
actually
read
the
whole
report
I
felt
like
it
was
a
thesis
you
all
could
submit
this
to
some
kind
of
academic
plan
because
it
was
actually
really
it
was.
E
It
was
helpful
for
me
to
like
think
about
some
of
the
things
that
I
struggle
with
and
then
the
othering
aspect
that
happens
in
our
community,
but
I
think
tech.
There
is
a
disconnect
with
local
folks
about
how
how
they
can
be
integrated
into
the
job
market
and
how
what
place
they
have
in
a
new
business
if
they
do
come
to
new
mexico,
a
tech
firm.
So
I'm
always
thinking
about
that,
and
I
think
we
also
hear
from
our
constituents
about
well.
How
are
they
going
to
provide
local
jobs?
E
How
are
local
people
going
to
be
integrated
in
and
be
considered
for,
high-paying
jobs,
and
so
that
that
is
the
conundrum
I
mean,
I
feel
like
there's
those
questions
that
come
up
about
that,
even
in
our
little
city
of
santa
fe.
The
one
thing
that
I
was
thinking
about
with
technology
is
that
I
think
there's
a
skepticism
or
fear
even
historically
about
technology
or
the
word
technology,
even
though
we've
had
it
historically,
like
you
were
talking
about.
E
Dr
montoya
is
the
tech
that
we
we
should
have
technology
so
that
it
solves
social
issues
and
inequities
instead
of
contributing
to
them,
and
I
feel
like
that
to
me
has
been
my
struggle
like
okay,
how
is
this
technology
going
to
support
the
existing
community
and
our
social
issues
and
inequities?
How
is
it
but
in
in
some
cases
and
people
feel
like
it,
contributes
to
those
inequities
and
social
divisions?
E
So
I
I
also
think
about
even
in
policy
making
like
who
benefits
and
who
doesn't,
and
you
brought
that
up
in
your
report
about
and
how
do
people
benefit.
E
So
all
of
these
things
swirl
around
my
head-
and
you
know
the
the
history
of
colonization-
does
play
out
and
there's
that
historic
memory
that
cultural
memory-
and
I
think
it
also
plays
out
for
us
as
we
look
at
you
know
what
we
see
as
progressive
in
the
city
of
santa
fe
and
how
we
want
to
be
progressive,
yet
also
recognize
and
acknowledge
and
still
utilize,
traditional
ways
of
being.
E
I
guess,
but
you
know
I
don't
know,
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
I
grapple
with
this
history
of
colonization
and
for
people
to
understand
what
that
means.
For
us,
and
I'm
wondering
I
guess
there
is
a
question
given
that
we
have
a
history
of
chicanery,
which
is
some
people,
don't
always
know
that
term.
But
chicanery
in
northern
new
mexico
has
been.
You
know,
trickery
or
deception,
to
achieve
political,
financial
or
legal
power,
and
that's
been
our
history.
So
how
do
we
then
utilize
think
about
colonization.
E
H
A
lot
a
ton
but
but
but
but
for
the
purposes
of
brevity
and
the
for
the
committee,
I
think
I
think
one
of
the
things
is
that
I,
I
think
this
kind
of
messaging,
that
happens,
especially
when
you're
in
an
entrepreneurial
venture
in
wellington,
does
a
lot
of
work.
Related
to
this.
H
It's
not
going
to
solve
the
answers,
because,
almost
immediately,
when
you
start
doing
that,
there
are
unintended
consequences
to
how
that
plays
out
and-
and
that's
precisely,
the
problem
of
colonization.
Is
that
once
you
view
something
as
empty-
and
you
say
I'm
here-
to
fill
it
because
there's
these
wide
open
spaces
in
new
mexico
and
you
don't
realize
that
what
you
thought
was
empty
was
actually.
H
G
Yes,
I'll
just
like
to
jump
in
quickly
in
many
moments
you
mentioned
the
idea
of
place
based,
but
trying
to
translate
a
little
bit
in
the
more
you
know,
simple
terms,
this
idea
of
you
know
if
you're
coming
in
from
outside,
you
want
to
set
up
your
business
or
your
no,
no,
whatever,
whatever
type
of
technology
you're
coming
bringing
in
there's
this
idea
of.
Oh,
he
has
worked
somewhere
else.
So
therefore
it
should
work
here,
and
you
know
the
idea
of
that.
G
Oh
they
should
want
us
here,
because
we're
gonna
bring
jobs
and
taxes,
and
you
know
that's
that's
not
enough.
There's
something
else
in
northern
new
mexico
that
the
language
has
to
be
different.
The
message
has
to
be
different
and,
if
you're
just
going
to
say,
you're
going
to
include
or
you're
going
to
share,
you
have
to
do
it
right,
just
saying
it's
too
easy.
So
this
idea
of
well
there's
this
the
sentiments
around
some
trigger
words
and
this
report.
G
Hopefully,
this
study,
you
know,
gives
people
this
idea
of
hey
when
you're
talking
about
these
things,
you
have
to
seriously
consider
other
stakeholders,
not
because
you
say
so,
not
because
it
worked
in
austin,
because
because
it
worked
in
the
silicon
valley,
it's
actually
different.
There's.
No,
there
are
contacts
here,
there's
a
place
based
mechanism
that
really
will
influence
you
the
way
people
understand
and
believe
and
trust
you,
and
without
that
trust
that
social
license,
whatever
technology
you're
bringing
in
whatever
promise
you
make,
may
not
work.
I
Have
a
couple
of
thoughts,
I'm
nancy
and
I
think
one
of
the
in
a
certain
way
because
we
broadened
the
the
lens
around
technology,
which
oftentimes
is
sort
of
this
bright
and
shiny
new
thing.
That
is
somewhat
kind
of
traditionally
here
lately
has
been
kind
of
exclusive,
and
in
that
divisive
somewhat
the
fact
that
we
really
looked
across
the
board
at
the
history
of
technology
and
all
these
different
ways.
It
really
does
embed
the
history
of
the
land
and
I
think,
as
it's
kind
of
a
stretch.
I
I
think
when
you
talk
to
people
conversationally
to
get
that
view
of
the
technic
stapes
across,
but
I
think
the
more
we
can.
We
can
strengthen
that
concept
that
technology
has
been
in
new
mexico
in
a
variety
of
ways,
for
a
really
long
time
and
kind
of
rooting
into
that.
So
to
speak,
really
does
secure
the
historical,
the
history
and
the
tradition
so,
but
thank
you
for
reading
the
reports
out
thoroughly
for
your
such
informed
questions
and
comments.
E
Thanks
nancy
yeah-
and
I
agree
with
you
about
that
context.
The
other
piece
that
resonated
with
me
in
the
report
is
about.
You
didn't
call
it
this,
but
it's
the
qualitative
data
versus
the
quantitative
data
collection
and
what
creating
validity
like
qualitative
data
is
how
I
interpret
people's
lived
experiences
are
just
as
important
as
the
you
know,
numbers
and
what
the
other
data
is
saying
and
so
making
valid
data
sources
and
making
sure
that
the
qualitative
piece
is
actually
folded
into.
I
think
we
need
to
do
that
better.
E
E
How
do
we
translate
access
to
capital
and
make
sure
that
people
have
an
ability
to
get
that
kind
of
technical
assistance
in
a
way
that
feels
not
just
safe,
but
that
it's
for
them
and
that
they
don't
need
to
be
say
certain
things
in
a
certain
way
or
know
the
you
know,
know
the
terminology
like
even
entrepreneurialism.
E
Do
I
guess
I'm
just
curious
with
like
staff
in
in
terms
of
our
own
economic
development
goals
like
how
we
can
make
sure
that
that
access
to
capital,
access
to
technical
assistance,
whether
it's
tech
related
fields
or
other,
that
we
are
making
sure
and
I
think
we're
actually
doing
better
with
this?
But
how
are
we
doing
this?
E
How
what
are
our
ways
so
that
we're
reaching
communities
that
may
not?
You
know
hear
about
these.
These
opportunities
through
some
kind
of
list
serve
or
other
forms
that
they
may
not
be
part
of.
Do
you
know
what
I
mean
they're,
just
like
community
members
have
good
ideas
they're.
E
F
So,
yes,
I
think,
there's
a
variety
of
of
different
kinds
of,
let's
just
say:
there's
capital,
there's
social
capital
there's
also,
indeed,
of
course,
a
programming.
That's
done,
and
I
I
agree
we're
trying
to
do
better
and
I
think
we're
definitely
amongst
the
business
world
trying
to
generate
more
equity.
F
Some
of
the
actions
that
we've
recently
taken
is
is
working
with
some
of
the
businesses
on
airport
road
and
then
recently,
miguel
acosta
from
earthcare
has
gotten
a
a
the
urban
corridor
initiative,
which
is
part
of
main
street,
which
will
also
be
on
airport
road.
I
think
that,
once
when
we
did
this
work,
one
of
the
things
that
I
thought
about
and
that
we
have
coming
up
is:
is
there
something
that
we
could
be
doing
over
at
the
teen
center?
F
The
other
thing
that
we've
been
doing
ourselves
is
kind
of
reaching
out
to
young
people
in
terms
of
the
deca
clubs
that
might
be
established
in
some
of
the
high
schools,
and
so
those
are
those
are
all
ways
and
obviously
offering
programming
in
spanish
as
well
has
been
part
of
it.
For
us
we
can.
We
can
obviously
do
better.
I
think
rich
has
also
had
several
projects
in
terms
of
wi-fi
availability.
F
One
of
the
things
that
we
learned
from
the
pandemic
was
obviously
the
vulnerable
communities
and
so
reaches
we're
working
really
hard
with
the
rit
department
of
putting
the
free
wi-fi
in
the
mobile
home
parks-
and
I
know
that's
not
like
exclusively
in
the
business
world,
but
it
is
kind
of
you
have
to
have.
I
think,
access
in
order
to
broadband
in
order
for
that
to
be
part
of
it,
so
I
think
we're
doing
better.
F
We
can
improve
one
of
the
things
that
we've
also
spoken
about
is
perhaps
there's
either
there
could
be
like
a
buying
local
campaign,
but
then
there
can
also
be
kind
of
like
the
face
of
entrepreneurship.
It's
you
and
I
think
sometimes
people
don't
realize
like.
F
Oh,
you
know
what,
as
a
former
convict,
not
not
saying
me
specifically
just
saying
in
general
that
you
could
start
a
business
right
and
another
thing,
but
but
and
business
is
a
way
that
you
could
overcome
many
obstacles
that
you
might
see
yourself
in
as
as
somebody
who
might
be
a
convict
and
we
have
local
entrepreneurs
who
are
like
that.
Another
thing
that
we've
reached
out
and
john
who's
part
of
this
team
also
has
a
pre-accelerator
program
and
we
worked
with
him.
F
Rich
really
started
that
initiative,
which
was
for
the
cannabis
industry
as
well,
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we're
thinking
about
with
the
cannabis
industry
is
kind
of.
How
is
it,
and
maybe,
if
the
funds
that
are
coming
from
it,
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
people?
Who've
had
formal
convictions
and
how
will
those
be
perhaps
reversed?
So
that's
what
I
would
say
and
I'd
say.
Definitely,
I
think
part
of
the
the
teen
center,
where
have
an
upcoming
meeting
that
could
be
part
of
the
exploration
for
programming.
H
I
got
kicked
off
of
the
main,
the
main
line
here,
so
I
apologize,
but
what
you
know
one
of
the
things
I've
been
thinking
about-
and
this
is
something
I
will
be
coordinating
with
innovation
academy
and
new
mexico
for
good
as
well-
is
a
campaign
to
incorporate
cities
and
towns
throughout
new
mexico
into
a
campaign
called
not
the
50th
state
but
the
first
emerging
economy,
and
the
reason
I
say
it
that
way
is
like
we
have.
H
These
indicators
are
actually
an
indicator
of
the
hard
work
and
the
invisible
labor
of
diversity,
the
kind
of
thing
that
it
goes
beyond
the
cliche
of
saying
that
people
are
inclusive.
I
think
new
mexico
and
wellington
study,
I'm
doing
with
wellington
right
now,
is
really
kind
of
showing
this
kind
of
sentiment
of
stuckness
that
new
mexico
stuck
in
the
past
or
is
kind
of
unable
to
kind
of
get
past
its
contradictions
or
the
paradoxes
of
being
in
a
place
like
new
mexico
with
a
rich
history.
H
It
is
the
largest
growth
sector
of
the
global
economy,
and
so
there
is
a
way
in
which
we
stop
thinking
of
ourselves
as
the
50th
state
and
really
kind
of
re-characterize
ourselves
with
metrics
and
with
data
that
really
reaches
out
to
the
rest
of
the
world
and
says
we
connect
to
you
in
a
meaningful
way
and
we're
here
to
do
business.
But
we're
also
here
to
really
connect
to
each
other
in
the
meaningful
work
of
of
really
kind
of
respecting
place
in
the
way
that
we
do.
H
I
I
was
just
going
to
add
to
that.
Just
also
underscore
the
shout
out
that
liz
gave
to
john
mercs
and
the
santa
fe
innovates
work,
and
I
I
think
the
real
key
to
diversity
is
a
low
bar
low
low
bar
access,
which
doesn't
happen.
All
that
often
and
stir
labs
has
pointed
us
to
in
terms
of
next
steps.
I
An
nsf
initiative
called
smart
and
connected
communities,
and
I'm
just
going
to
read
the
little
blurb
that
they
have,
because
it
really
hits
what
we're
talking
about
on
the
head.
I
I
think
and
we're
we're
in
very
early
stages
of
trying
to
kind
of
draft
an
response
to
an
rfp
that
will
happen
early
next
year,
but
they're
a
smart
and
commun
and
connected
community
is
in
turn
defined
as
a
community
that
synergistically
integrates
intelligent
technologies
with
the
natural
and
built
environments,
including
infrastructure,
to
improve
the
social,
economic
and
environmental
well-being
of
those
who
live,
work,
learn
or
travel
within
it.
So
it
pretty
much
sums
up
kind
of
the
north
star
that
we're
aiming
for
with
this.
E
F
One
of
the
reasons
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
gave
follow-up
to
this
presentation
and
on
in
this
committee,
was
one
to
ask
for
your
advice,
the
counselors.
I
feel
that
you
guys,
as
elected
leaders,
are
really
people
who
have
a
lot
of
insight
into
perhaps
how
things
might
be
able
to
work
or
be
connected
in
mobley.
F
Then
I
think
the
other
follow-up
is
is
a
conversation
we
previously
before
the
pandemic
would
meet
regularly
with
different
sectors,
and
so
we
would
have
regular
tech,
tech,
industry
meetings
with
people
who
are
in
the
tech
industry
bringing
them
together
with
people
in
the
food
industry.
But
obviously
that
has
come
to
a
halt.
I
think
we
might
be
able
to
do
something
similar
in
terms
of
sharing
the
findings
during
global
entrepreneurial
week.
F
If
we
have
another
tech
gathering-
and
I
think
the
other
one
would
be
also-
as
I
mentioned
before-
with
the
teen
center
to
see,
if
there's
any
of
that
programming
that
would
or
would
not,
because
I
think
the
other
thing
is.
Maybe
this
is
interesting
and
fascinating
to
us,
but
this
may
not
be
interesting
and
fascinating
to
other
people.
So
I
think,
there's
always
that
to
consider
you
don't
want
to
impose
certain
conversations,
and
so
those
are
just
ideas
that
we
have
and
we're
obviously
open
to
hearing
from
you.
E
Yeah,
I
was,
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
I
have
to
think
about
that.
I
guess
I'm
always.
I
was
thinking
about
extracting
pieces
of
the
report
and
having
this
like
understandings
of
your
current
environment
or,
like
I
don't
know,
just
like
a
how-to
santa
fe,
101
booklet.
E
I
don't
want
people
to
think
that
I
also
want
them
to
be
informed
and
understand
our
history
as
well,
and
that
we
have
technological
advancements
that
they
may
not
see
it
that
way,
but
these
are
actual
like
worldwide
phenomenons
that
we
have
had
and
been
part
of
historically
here
in
new
mexico.
So
I
don't
know
I'm
just
trying
to
think
of
ways
to
utilize
that
to
make
it
less
academic
but
more
digestible
for
the
average
person
to
understand,
and
also
to
like
put
things-
I
don't
know
for
a
local
person
to
be
like.
E
That's
why
I
feel
that
way
like
oh
yeah,
that's
why
there's
words
for
that?
I
don't
know
I'm
just
thinking
out
loud,
so
maybe
we
could
talk
about
it
offline
and
think
about
brainstorm,
but
I
guess
I'll
just
end
with
when
we
have
entrepreneurialism
or
any
of
these
fields
that
we
want
to
reach
out
to
the
general
public
and
communities
of
color
and
youth.
E
I
think,
what's
helpful,
is
having
people
that
look
like
them
and
talk
like
them,
because
then
they
actually
can
identify
more
with
those
people,
and
when
I
hear
and
listen
to
dr
montoya,
it
makes
me
want
to
take
classes
from
him.
It
makes
me
want
to
go
and
get
my
mba
and
go
through
the
anderson
school
of
business.
If
I
would
have
known
dr
montoya,
I
would
have
probably
taken
a
different
route.
Instead
of
just
going
through
planning
school,
I
would
have
maybe
gotten
the
mba.
E
So
my
point
is:
it's:
it's
wonderful
to
see
people
that
you
can
understand
and
connect
with
on
a
cultural
level,
even
if
they're,
using
terms
that
you
don't
necessarily
know,
but
you
want
to
know
more
so
I'll,
leave
it
at
that.
Thank
you
very
much
thanks
everyone
for
your
time
and
participation
in
this
study.
A
It's
not
too
late
for
an
mba
councilwoman.
I
have
two
degrees
and
I
didn't
do
them
at
the
same
time.
Other
questions
from
the
committee.
J
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
This
is
a
good
discussion
and
welcome
to
the
our
unm
comrades.
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know,
council
burial,
that
we
actually
have
a
meeting
set
up
in
two
weeks
with
the
unm
anderson
school.
To
basically
talk
about
the
subject
you
just
mentioned.
How
do
we
as
people
of
color
liz,
and
I
are
people
of
color?
How
do
we
also
integrate
this
into
entrepreneurship
and
collaborate
with
the
folks,
wellington
and
emmanuel
and
nancy?
J
How
do
we
collaborate
in
the
future
because
we're
a
new
normal-
and
I
keep
talking
about
that-
we're
a
new
normal
and
we
have
to
address
that
some
way,
and
so
I
have
carved
out
some
of
our
our
consulting
funding
to
make
sure
that
we
do
reach
out
and
have
the
broad
net
for
the
future.
So
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
we
are
continuing
our
collaboration
beyond
stirlaps
with
unm
anderson,
school.
E
A
Terrific
thank
you
everyone
for
being
here
tonight,
especially
our
unm
team.
I
really
appreciate
it
have
a
great
night
for
those
of
us
sticking
around.
We
will
now
move
to
item
p,
which
is
I
don't
know,
I'm
not
gonna
read
the
whole
title.
Basically,
this
is
the
big
bill.
We've
all
been
waiting
for
to
look
at
regulating
cannabis
in
the
city
of
santa
fe.
Now
that
it
has
been
made
legal
in
the
state-
and
I
believe,
andrea,
salazar
and
noah
burke
are
here
as
lead
staff
people.
A
They
have
been
working
on
this
as
it
moved
through
the
planning
commission,
as
it
moved
from
the
subcommittee
of
the
planning
commission
up
to
the
planning
commission
and
now
it's.
This
is
its
first
stop
as
it
moves
its
way
toward
a
full
governing
body
meeting.
This
is
its
first
committee
hearing,
and
so
with
that
I
think
I
can't
remember
who
pulled
this
off
first,
so
I
don't
know:
if
was
it
you
councilwoman,
bial,
okay,
councilwoman
cassid,
all
right,
and
I
guess
the
question
is:
do
you
do
you
go?
A
K
Counselors,
I
do
have
a
presentation:
okay,.
A
Great,
let's,
let's
dive
into
that,
because
I
think
it
it'll
help
give
us
all
kind
of
the
same
level
of
understanding.
In
the
background
we
need
to
dive
to
dive
into
some
of
the
questions.
So
do
you
are
you
sharing
screen?
Yes,.
A
And
while
you're
doing
that,
we
also
have
city
attorney
mccherry
in
the
background
here,
if
needed,
but
again
from
her
office,
andrea
salazar,
is
the
lead,
didn't
want
to
leave
out
our
city
attorney.
K
All
right,
let's
see
if
I
can
get
this
correct,
I
apologize
so
I'm
going
to
do
my
best
here.
L
K
Yes,
okay,
great
so
tonight,
I'm
here
to
present
to
you,
on
behalf
of
the
planning
land
use
department,
the
proposed
legislation
to
address
zoning
issues
related
to
commercial
cannabis
establishments?
K
So
what
code
changes
are
proposed,
like
the
title
says,
there's
quite
a
few,
so
I'll
just
briefly
go
through
this.
The
first
changes
to
amend
the
land
development
code
by
adding
a
new
category
of
specific
uses,
commercial
cannabis
establishments
in
the
santa
fe
city
code,
which
is
our
table
permitted
uses
which
are
shows
all
our
zoning
districts
and
then
all
the
different
types
of
uses
that
are
allowed
in
that
this
would
add
a
new
area
to
that
called
commercial
cannabis
establishments,
and
that
would
have
multiple
categories
underneath
it.
K
It
would
also
be
to
amend
subsection
14-6.2
h,
which
are
agricultural
uses,
subsection
14-6.3
d2,
which
are
home
occupation,
uses,
amend
subsection
14-12.1,
which
is
definitions
and
finally
adds
a
new
subsection
which
is
14-6.2i
to
adopt
you
specific
standards
for
cannabis
establishments,
including
the
density
limitations
on
them
and
operating
times.
K
So
the
cannabis
regulation
act,
which
is
known
as
house
bill,
two
legalized,
recreational
cannabis
for
adults,
21
years
of
age
and
older.
K
K
The
state
is
still
working
on
the
regulations
for
cannabis,
consumption
for
retail
establishments
and
cannabis
consumption
areas,
and
they
will
start
accepting
applications
for
those.
On
january
1st
2022.
the
state
has
clearly
outlined
what
local
jurisdictions
cannot
do.
They
cannot
prevent
anyone
properly
licensed
from
transporting
cannabis
products
on
public
roads,
completely
prohibit
the
operation
of
a
cannabis,
licensee
prohibit
or
limit
signage,
identifying
a
business
as
a
cannabis
establishment.
K
Requiring
existing
cannabis
licensee
to
relocate
on
a
new
premise
or
prohibit
an
adult
new
mexican
from
producing
homegrown
cannabis
and
an
adult
new
mexican
can
have
up
to
six
plants
per
individual
or
two
adults
over
the
ages
of
21
can
have
up
to
12
plants
per
household.
K
So
it's
kind
of
a
lot
of
work.
I'll
go
through
it.
Just
being
a
little
background.
You
may
remember
on
july
14th,
at
the
governing
body
meeting
the
governing
body
heard
a
presentation
from
staff
which
outlined
how
the
land
use
department
would
classify
cannabis
establishments
under
the
current
unchanged.
Zoning
land
use
codes
and
staff
also
made
formal
recommendations
for
moving
forward
as
contemplated
in
chapter
14.
The
planning
commission
is
is
making
the
recommendations
that
will
be
heard
later
on
tonight.
K
For
the
changes
of
chapter
14
begin
with
a
recommendation
from
its
policy
subcommittee.
The
policy
subcommittee
is
an
ad
hoc
committee
of
the
subcommittee
of
the
planning
commission.
K
K
The
policy
subcommittee's
recommendations
were
aimed
at
promoting
that
cannabis
economy
while
protecting
the
public
health
safety
and
wealth
and
the
general
welfare
of
santa
fe.
The
policy
subcommittee
would
make
recommendations
to
the
planning
commission.
The
planning
commission
would
ultimately
make
recommendations
to
the
governing
bodies
kind
of
the
order
of
operations,
so
the
planning
commission
heard
staff's
recommendations
at
their
meetings
on
august
19th
and
at
their
meeting
september
2nd.
They
ultimately
recommended
the
legislation
for
approval
to
the
governing
body.
K
The
main
conversations
that
took
place
in
those
hearings-
and
there
was
a
public
hearing
where
members
of
the
public
were
encouraged
beginning
in
early
august
and
then
at
the
second
meeting
in
august
and
then
subsequently,
we
did
not
have
a
public
hearing
at
the
meeting
in
september.
K
The
conversations
that
when
people
did
speak-
and
there
weren't
very
many-
had
to
do
with
distance
between
cannabis
retail
establishments
and
also
with
canvas
producer
micro
businesses,
the
legislation-
that's
included
in
your
packet
that
had
the
cover
men,
that
was
the
government
cover
memo,
was
meant
for
was
a
version
that
was
a
little
different
than
the
planning
commission
heard
and
I'll.
Let
the
city
attorney
speak
out
later,
but
the
ultimately,
the
city
attorney
made
technical
amendments
to
the
planning
commission's
recommended
legislation
in
order
to
sign
for
legal
sufficiency.
K
The
technical
changes
that
were
made
were
not
intended
to
modify
the
policy
recommendations
included
in
the
planning
commission's
recommendations
recommended
legislation,
but
rather
they
consolidate
the
use
sub-categories
without
associated
regulatory
distinctions.
They
streamline
multiple
provisions
prohibiting
home
occupations
into
one
remove
provisions
requiring
adherence
to
existing
law
and
add
or
refine
language
in
a
few
instances
to
clarify
the
intent.
K
So
I
kind
of
put
added
this
in
some
people
are
familiar
with
what
santa
fe
looks
like
on
the
zony
map
and
others
are
not.
This
is
kind
of
hard
to
decipher
at
this
level
because
we're
looking
at
the
whole
city,
but
basically
this
breaks
santa
fe
down
into
zoning
districts
and
it
kind
of
shows
you
the
cluster
like
the
brown
towards
the
downtown
is:
is
our
business
capital
district?
That's
from
our
our
most
advantageous
zoning
district
allows
for
multiple
uses.
It's
meant
to
promote
business
and
and
industry.
K
The
reds,
which
you
see
is
our
c2
districts.
That's
our
c2.
A
lot
of
housing
has
been
taking
place
in
those
lots
of
kind
of
a
mixed
use
category,
it's
kind
of
a
capture,
all
that's
usually
located
along
our
corridor
districts.
K
The
lighter
purple
you'll
see
there
is
our
industrial
districts
and
then
the
yellow
and
and
some
of
the
green
has
to
do
with
our
residential
district.
So
you
can
kind
of
see
how
santa
fe
radiates
out
from
the
corridors
and
then
down
towards
the
central
business
directors,
which
is
our
downtown
and
then
out
towards
the
airport.
You
have
a
more
planned
residential
like
tierra
contenta,
and
then
you
have
business
parks
that
are
on
the
other
side
of
airport
road
on
the
north
side
of
airport.
K
K
That's
what
the
state
has
started
issuing
licenses
on
september
1st,
so
the
first
category
of
production
would
be
a
cannabis
producer
and
we
define
that
as
a
business
conducted
by
a
person
licensed
to
cultivate
cannabis,
including
the
planting,
growing,
harvesting,
drying,
curing
grading
or
trimming
of
cannabis,
provided
that
the
person
possesses
201
or
more
mature
cannabis
plants
at
any
one
time,
as
proposed
in
the
legislation
before
you,
it
would
be
permitted
indoors
in
an
I-1
I-2
district
and
it
would
be
permitted
outdoors
in
an
I-1
I-2
district
with
a
special
use
permit,
and
then
it
would
be
permitted
with
a
special
use
permit,
both
indoors
or
outdoors
in
a
c2
or
a
vip
district.
K
The
second
category
for
production
is
is
kind
of
our
smallest
category
right.
This
is
this
is
meant
to
encourage
entrepreneurship.
This
is
meant
for
people
entering
the
industry.
This
is
called
a
cannabis
producer
micro
business,
and
this
is
a
small
business
conducted
by
a
person
licensed
to
cultivate
cannabis
at
a
single
location,
including
the
planting,
growing
harvested
drying,
curing
grading
or
trimming
of
cannabis,
provided
that
the
person
may
not
possess
more
than
200
total
mature
cannabis
plants
at
any
one
time,
as
proposed
in
the
legislation.
K
This
would
be
allowed
in
our
c2
districts,
our
i1
i2
business,
industrial
parks
and
our
shopping
center.
One
two
and
three
districts,
and
only
indoors
in
those
districts
and
the
distinction
between
the
shopping
center
districts
is
that
sc3
is
like
a
regional
shopping
center.
That's
our
biggest
kind
of
shopping
center
district
and
our
one
is
kind
of
your
your
strip.
K
Mall,
almost
like
like
where
your
trader
joe's
that
kind
of
mall
there
would
be
considered
an
sc1
and
then
sc2
would
be
like
where
de
vargas
is,
where
it's
not
quite
a
regional,
but
it's
more
smaller
mall,
and
then
it
would
be
permitted
outdoors.
In
all
those
districts
with
a
special
use
permit.
K
So
then,
there
we
divided
two
classes
for
manufacturing
in
the
commercial
cannabis
establishments.
We
felt
this
was
very
important,
and
so
we
went
ahead
and
made
distinctions
between
each
of
them,
so
there
would
be
the
cannabis
manufacturing
heavy,
which
is
the
use
that
involves
compounding
blending
extracting
infusing
packaging
or
otherwise
preparing
a
cannabis
product
using
volatile
solvents
such
as
butane,
hepathene,
hexane
or
propane,
and
that
would
be
only
permitted
indoors
in
our
industrial
districts
and
our
business
industrial
parks.
K
No
outdoor
is
allowed
with
that
in
case
that
wasn't
clear.
Our
second
one
would
be
cannabis
manufacturing
light.
K
This
would
be
a
use
that
involves
compounding
blending
extracting
infusing
packaging
or
otherwise
preparing
a
cannabis
product
using
mechanical
methods
and
non-volatile
solvents
or
no
solvents
at
all,
and
that
would
be
permitted
in
the
c2,
the
business
capital
district,
our
industrial
districts
and
our
vip
again
only
indoors
commercial
cannabis
establishments
would
be
divided
into
two
categories
for
research
and
testing
laboratories.
This
is
really
important
too,
because
there
has
been
some
testing
facilities
or
extracting
facilities
that
there
have
been
problems
with,
so
we
felt
that
there
was.
K
It
was
really
important
that
there
was
a
distinction
between
them
and
only
allowing
certain
districts,
so
the
first
would
be
a
cannabis
research
laboratory,
which
is
a
facility
that
produces
or
possesses
cannabis
or
cannabis
products
for
the
purpose
of
studying
cannabis
cultivation
characteristics
or
uses,
provided
that
a
cannabis
research
laboratory
that
conducts
heavy
cannabis
manufacturing,
which
was
listed
in
category
before,
shall
be
classified
as
that
this
would
be
permitted
in
the
c2
business
capital,
industrial
districts
and
business
industrial
parks.
K
The
testing
laboratory
would
be
a
facility
where
cannabis
products
are
sampled,
collected
and
tested,
provided
that
a
cannabis
testing
laboratory
that
conducts
heavy
cannibis
manufacturing
activities
shall
be
calcified
as
a
cannabis
manufacturing
heavy
again
permitted
in
the
c2
business
capital,
industrial
districts
and
our
vip
districts.
K
This
the
last
two
categories,
the
state
hasn't,
come
out
with
regulations
yet,
but
as
we
felt,
it
was
important
to
go
ahead
and
start
diving
into
absent
of
regulations
for
these
categories.
We
felt
that
it
was
important,
at
least
for
commercial
cannabis,
retail
locations
to
be
deciphered
from
the
rest,
and
also
to
see
what
categories
that
that
what
zoning
districts
would
be
most
appropriate
for
this.
K
Currently,
on
the
on
the
table
permitted
uses,
the
operation
hours
will
be
limited
to
7
am
to
10
pm.
Only
in
mixed
use,
districts
and
the
commercial
cannabis
retailer
would
use
would
be
only
permitted
if
not
located
within
300
feet
of
an
existing
school
daycare
center.
K
A
new
commercial
cannabis
retailer
would
only
be
permitted
permitted
use
if
located
within
a
400-foot
distance
of
a
commercial
cannabis.
Retailer
main
entrance
accessing
the
primary
function
of
the
establishment.
As
approved
by
the
city
and
just
to
clarify,
the
distance
will
be
measured
from
the
main
entrance
of
the
business
premise
to
the
main
entrance
of
the
next
business
premise
and
all
commercial
cannabis.
Retailers
will
be
limited
to
the
hours
of
operation
from
7am
to
midnight.
K
The
the
distance
between
retailers
is
super
important
and
staff,
along
with
the
policy
subcommittee,
looked
at
a
few
different
scenarios.
We
created
kind
of
a
heat
map
with
the
help
of
some
other
staff
members,
and
we
were
able
to
look
at
existing
cannabis
locations
around
the
city,
so
those
medicinal
cannabis
locations
dispensaries,
who
would
have
the
option
come
january
1st,
to
be
able
to
fill
out
some
paperwork
and
apply
to
be
a
commercial
retail
establishment
for
for
recreational
cannabis.
K
They'd
have
that
option
and
they're
already
kind
of
had
an
advantage
because
they
have
a
location.
So
we
kind
of
looked
at
all
those
locations
around
the
city
of
these
existing,
as
well
as
some
address
points
throughout
the
city
and
looked
at
different
distances
to
see
what
would
be
most
appropriate.
So
we
looked
at
the
distance
of
200
feet,
300
feet,
400
feet
and
600
feet.
K
K
We
wanted
to
look
upon
airport
road,
so
we
took
a
uniformed
approach
across
the
city
to
make
a
recommendation
for
the
density
of
retail
establishments
and
we're
only
looking
at
the
density
of
retail
establishment,
not
production
or
any
of
the
other
categories,
because
we
felt
that
this
was
most
important
and
the
policy
subcommittee
and
ultimately
the
planning
commission
recommended
400
feet
apart
and
then
we
decided.
Where
would
this
be
measured?
So
we
came
up
with
least
premise:
that's
the
best
way
to
think
of
it.
K
So
if
you're
in
a
mall,
whatever
area,
you're
leasing,
that's
where
your
400
feet
goes
not
property
line
to
property
line,
because
you
know
the
mall's
on
one
giant
piece
of
property.
That
would
only
be
one
cannabis
establishment,
perhaps
so,
and
same
with
strip
malls
and
those
other
businesses
where
retail
establishments
would
be
allowed
and
then
the
time
frame
and
that
we
looked
from
7
a.m.
To
12
a.m
is
actually
what
the
county
adopted
as
well.
So
we
felt
that
it
was
good
to
be
consistent
with
santa
fe
county.
K
We
thought
that
would
probably
be
an
advantage
to
people
who
are
opening
retail
establishments,
maybe
in
the
county,
want
to
come
to
the
city
or
vice
versa,
and
then
the
final
category
which
we
haven't
decided
on
and
which
will
be
left
blank
until
until
there's
recommendations
made
or
direction
given
by
the
governing
body
is
the
cannabis
consumption
area,
and
this
is
kind
of
like
the
best
way
to
think
of.
K
This
is
like
basically
on
on-site
consumption,
where
you
can
do
on-site
consumption
of
cannabis
if
you're
over
the
age
of
21
kind
of
like
a
bar
right.
So
it's
kind
of
you
get
to
maybe
in
inhale
it
or
eat
it
or
whatever
so,
and
it's
defined
as
an
area
where
cannabis
products
may
be
served
and
consumed
by
smoking.
They've
been
ingesting,
provided
that
alcohol
cannot
be
sold
or
consumed
in
a
cannabis.
K
So
what
are
the
next
steps?
Well,
the
goal
behind
all
of
this
is
to
is
of
this
proposed
legislation
is
actually
to
promote
the
cannabis
economy,
while
also
protecting
the
the
health,
safety
and
welfare
of
the
of
the
residents
and
visitors
of
santa
fe.
So
that
was
kind
of
the
thought
process
behind
this
and
staff
will
continue
to
work
with
the
policy
subcommittee
to
draft
any
needed
changes
to
cannabis,
retail
establishments
and
cannabis
consumption
areas
to
be
consistent
with
the
state's
regulations
as
they
come
out.
K
K
So
it's
required
that
amendments
to
the
chap
to
the
text
of
chapter
14
have
to
comply
with
the
following
criteria:
compliance
with
the
law,
consistency
with
the
general
plan,
consistency
with
other
policies
adopted
by
the
governing
body;
consistency
with
the
purpose
and
intent
of
chapter
14
and
of
the
section
being
amended
or
the
sections
in
this
case
consideration
of
how
the
amendment
relates
to
the
other
provisions
of
the
santa
fe
city
code
and
the
avoidance
of
unintended
consequences
and,
finally,
consistency
with
any
approved
neighborhood
conservation
overlay
districts,
which
there
are
none
right
now.
K
The
planning
and
landings
department
in
consultation
with
the
city
attorney's
office
has
reviewed
and
crafted
the
proposed
legislation
to
ensure
that
all
of
the
criteria
mentioned
before
have
been
met,
and
therefore
staff
recommends
that
the
governing
body
approve
the
proposed
legislative
changes
to
chapter
14,
as
did
the
planning
commission.
A
So,
thank
you
noah.
I
appreciate
that
so
we
will
go.
I
think
now,
unless
andrea
did
you
have
anything?
You
were
wanting
to
add
to
that
presentation
before
we
go
to
the
committee
members.
A
You
have
any
okay,
terrific
councilwoman
cassid.
I
believe
I
you
pulled
this
off
first,
so
we'll
just
go
in
that
order.
N
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
now
for
the
presentation.
Can
you
send
the
zoning
map
please?
That
would
be
very
helpful
and
then
do
we
get
to
see
the
heat
maps
that
you
guys
had
created
shock
of
all
shock,
because
I
watched
planning
commission
to
just
the
discussion
of
this,
but
so
I
got
to
see
it
there,
but
I
was
hoping
that
we
might
also
be
able
to
look
at
those.
As
I
know
it
was
a
discussion.
K
Yes,
andrea,
do
you
have
that
up
right
now,
or
should
I
try
to
get
to
my
folder
really
quickly.
A
Do
I
have
it
up
here?
May
I
share
my
screen
sure.
Let
me
know
if
you
have
issues,
I
think
I
think
it
will.
Let
you.
M
So
this
is
the
map
that
was
created
for
us
in
gis.
I
I'm
showing
kind
of
the
whole
system
right
now
of
the
current
medical
cannabis,
so
that
the
dark
lines
are
what
exist.
The
light
lines
were
proposed
and
potential
stores
that
might
arise
as
we
kind
of
move
in
we'll
first
kind
of
go
to
downtown
in
the
early
street
area.
These
are
the
existing
medical
areas
and
I
and
the
lines
as
depicted
in
the
legend
purple
is
the
hundred
foot
blue
is
the
200
red
is
300
and
green
is
400..
M
So
I
think
it
is
important
to
note
that
these
are
existing
medical
cannabis.
They
don't
have
commercial
licenses
yet
and
won't
until
january,
so
a
prohibition
or
stating
that
cannabis,
commercial,
cannabis
businesses
can't
be
within
a
certain
distance
of
each
other
will
mean
that
some
might
will
have
to
remain
as
medical
cannabis,
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everyone
kind
of
understands
that
so
these
are
the
areas
that
are
are
pretty
dense.
M
Is
this
early
street
cordova
area
with
medicinal
cannabis
and
as
we
move
out,
I
believe
in
total
there
are
33
both
in
santa
fe.
The
city
of
santa
fe
and
santa
fe
county-
and
that
is
33
that
are
also
retail
manufacturing
production,
all
of
those
types
of
businesses,
I'm
happy
to
zoom
it
zoom
in,
however,
you'd
like.
K
And
andrea,
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
just
two
things:
just
minor
small
things,
so
the
ones
that
have
the
little
dots
that
are
there.
Those
are
cannabis
business
locations,
meaning
that
they
would
actually
be
the
location
of
a
business.
The
ones
that
have
the
square
were
random
points
that
I
believe
we
chose
to
demonstrate
throughout
the
corridors
and
stuff
what
the
distances
would
look
like.
K
So
there's
some
on
airport
road
there's
some
in
the
downtown,
but
I
do
think
that
it's
super
important
to
see
that,
like
when
the
policy
subcommittee
first
looked
at
the
downtown
600
feet
of
west
san
francisco
street
took
out
like
four
or
five
city
blocks.
That
means
that
you
literally
have
a
cannabis
establishment.
Every
five
city
blocks
that
didn't
seem
like
it
would
be
very
fair
and
equitable
in
a
way
versus
what
600
feet
might
look
like
on
the
south
side
right.
K
So
we
then
looked
at
400
feet,
and
that
was
ultimately
what
the
policy
subcommittee
recommended
and
ultimately,
planning
commission
did.
The
600
foot
number
came
out
of
what
albuquerque
is
looking
at
and
what
they're
looking
at
between
establishments
very
different
city
than
we
are,
and
then
the
county
passed
it
200
foot
distances
between
retail
establishments
and
where
it
would
be
permitted
right.
So
each
county
is
very
different
than
the
city.
K
They
have
traditional
villages,
traditional
communities
within
those
there's
zoning
criteria,
so
they
still
are
forthcoming
with
what
within
the
traditional
communities
what
that,
where
what
that
would
look
like,
but
this
seemed
to
be
the
the
choice
of
the
planning
commission
and
seemed
to
work
okay
for
the
downtown.
It's
still,
if
you
zoom
in
andrea
until
that
san
francisco
street
location,
which
is
the
blue
circle
over
there.
That
is
a
really
good
indicator,
because
you
have
the
plaza
right
in
the
middle
right.
K
We
have
somebody
right
now,
who's,
looking
at
that
location
there
of
doing
a
retail
establishment.
So
I
figured
let's
put
this
on
a
map.
Let's
see
what
this
looks
like
and
you
can
see
it
takes
out
you're
clear
across
the
plaza
with
600
feet
and
you're
clear
across
the
sandoval
garage
you're
all
the
way.
Next
to
the
hotel
of
the
el
dorado,
so
it's
a
good
indicator
and
it's
not
just
about
our
downtown.
K
I
mean
it's
about
all
the
whole
city,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
see
what
this
really
looks
like
and
then
the
red
right.
There
is
an
existing
existing
medicinal
medicinal
shop,
so
they
will
already
have
one
up
in
terms
of
nobody
can
be
located
within
that
green
area
close
to
them.
N
K
If
that
is
madame
chair,
counselor
cassette,
that
is
correct,
but
there
is
a
category
called
vertically
integrated
micro
business
right
where
you're
vertically
integrating
you
have
more.
You
have
multiple
uses
going
on,
you
may
be
a
retailer
and
you
may
be
also
producing,
and
you
may
have
on-site
consumption
right
and
you
could.
You
could
do
that,
potentially
so
that
in
that
case,
where
you
have
a
combination
of
a
production
and
a
retail
establishment,
the
distance
requirement
would
come
into
effect,
but
it
wouldn't.
N
Okay,
okay,
thank
you
and
then
this
does
get
into
a
little
bit
of
the
nitty-gritty,
but
in
terms
of
the
measurement
from
the
the
primary
entrance,
would
it
be
from
the
center
of
the
primary
entrance
the
sides
closest
to
each
other?
I
mean
if
we're
looking
at
the
distance
of
399
feet
versus
401.
That
makes
a
really
big
difference
for
somebody
that
might
be
trying
to
establish
a
new
retail
business.
So
how
is
that
measured?
Have
you
guys
thought
about
that.
K
Madam
chair
counselor
cassette,
I
think
that
basically,
what
we
were
looking
at
is
just
from
like
the
door
to
the
next
door,
but
we
didn't
decide.
You
know
what
side
like
the
primary
entrance
so
and
that's
established
by
when
they
get
a
certificate
occupancy
and
the
fire
department
comes
in.
There
says
this
is
your
primary
entrance,
so
we
would
go
from
that
point
just
at
that
entrance
where
it's
framed
in.
M
So
when
we
created
this
we're
talking
about
premises
and
so
you're
looking
at
these
circular
density
or
distance
areas
based
on
the
premises
since
planning
commission
that's
changed
to
the
front
primary
entrance,
and
so
these
would
be
a
little
off
if
this
was
the
primary
entrance.
This
would
be
the
footage,
but
the
behind
it
wouldn't
be
the
exact
same
dimension.
N
N
It
can
be
more
than
a
few
feet,
so
just
something
that
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
thinking
about
so
there's
not
this
room
for
interpretation
and
that
we
are
pretty
clear
so
that
people
understand
the
expectations
if
they
are
trying
to
identify
locations
where
another
retail
establishment
could
be
established
if
there's
already
one
in
existence.
N
So
maybe
something
to
think
about
and
I'd
appreciate
that
later,
can
we
get
a
copy
of
this
heat
map
as
well,
something
that
we
can
play
with
on
our
own.
As
this
moves
through
committee.
M
So
we
will
have
to
as
an
explanation,
chair
counselor.
I
think
this
the
heat
map
itself
has
like
authorization
and
so
we'll
have
to
obtain
authorization
to
extend
usage.
We
tried
to
send
it
out
and
I
don't
believe
that
anyone
was
able
to
actually
utilize
it,
so
we
will
have
to
get
those
permissions.
Okay,
thank
you.
That'd.
N
Be
great
and
then
this
did
go
to
edac
as
well,
and
I
there's
nothing
in
the
packet
about
any
feedback
that
they
had
was
there.
Was
there
anything
that
came
out
of
that
meeting?
That
would
be
relevant
for
us
to
be
considering.
K
Madam
chair
counselors,
counselor
cassette,
I
I
feel
that
they
they
were
pretty
receptive.
I
think
that
some
of
the
feedback
that
was
hurt
there
were
like
more
statements
right
and
there
were
a
few
questions.
K
K
K
There
was
another
concern
about
canyon,
road
and
what
would
canyon
road
look
like
if
the
rent
kept
going
up
and
the
only
people
who
could
afford
to
the
only
businesses
that
could
afford
to
locate
on
canyon,
road
were
cannabis
establishments
and
the
the
zoning
for
canyon
road
is
residential
arts
and
crafts
and
as
proposed
that
will
not
any
commercial
cannabis
consumption,
commercial,
well,
commercial,
cannabis!
Anything
is
not
permitted
in
that
district,
so
canyon
road
would
not
be
allowed
to
have
any
type
of
commercial
cannabis
establishment.
K
Then
there
was
some
concern
about
the
downtown
and
what
would
the
downtown
look
like
if
a
lot
of
shops
started
converting
into
retail
locations
of
cannabis
and
the
you
know
what
what?
What
protects
the
storefronts?
What
protects
the
architectural
integrity,
the
culture,
the
look
of
downtown
santa
fe,
and
I
think
the
answer
to
that
that
staff
gave
him-
is
that
there's
a
historic
design
review
board,
who
reviews
for
for
architectural
compliance
with
the
standards
in
the
downtown
there's
also
a
signed
code
for
the
historic
downtown.
K
So
there's
those
controls,
as
well,
as
you
know,
limitations
on
placement,
sizing
of
signs
and
other
types
of
clutter
that
take
away
from
the
architectural
integrity
of
the
the
facades
that
are
publicly
visible.
So
that
was
what
most
of
I
believe
that
was
what
most
of
the
conversations
centered
around
there
was
some
questions
about
from
the
economic
development
side.
What
does
this
look
like?
Are
we
for
our
workforce?
What
workforce
is
ready
to?
You
know
start
being
producers.
K
I
think
director
brown
had
some
great
answers
for
that
and
I
and
I
can't
really
remember
any
other
feedback
other
than
than
that
and
also
questions
other
than
that
and
andrea.
I
don't
know
if
you
remember
anything
else,
either.
M
Sorry,
you
could
see
me
starting
to
talk
chair
counselor.
One
of
the
the
topics
that
came
up
was
a
pipeline
for
the
industry
itself,
like
whether
we
had
like
the
community
college
starting
up
some
type
of
program
to
ensure
that
we
have
workers
ready.
That
was
some
of
the
discussion,
so
I
think
noah
summarized
all
of
it.
That's
the
only
little
piece
that
that
we
also.
N
N
I
think
my
my
last
question
is:
is
the
biggie
which
has
to
do
with
the
difference
between
what
was
passed
at
planning,
commission
and
what
we
are
considering
here
and
planning
commission
utilized
the
canopy
size
to
designate
zoning
to
designate
categories?
I
believe
they
had
five
different
subcategories
based
on
the
canopy
size,
and
that
has
been
changed
since
being
passed
at
planning.
Commission.
N
O
Chair
of
our
worst
counselor
cassette,
I
can
answer
that
one.
So
they
did
include
canopy
sizes,
but
they
did
not
distinguish
between
them,
so
they
all
had
the
same
zoning
so
by
taking
them
out.
We
have
no
change
in
outcome,
but
if
you
guys
want
to
add
canopy
size
and
change,
how
they're
treated
that's
absolutely
fine.
N
O
To
clarify
so
it
could
be
changed,
it's
just.
They
were
all
categorized,
the
same,
so
the
permissions
and
sorry
to
answer.
Basically,
it
was
just
it
was
like
adding
red
cannabis,
blue
cannabis,
green
cannabis,
yellow
and
then
just
saying,
they're
all
allowed
in
all
the
same
places,
but
you
could
decide
to
treat
red
differently.
They
just
hadn't
in
their
recommended
proposal,
so
because
it
was
just
like
creating
categories
without
an
outcome
generally,
if
we
add
words
to
bills,
I
want
them
to
have
a
legal
purpose.
O
Otherwise
it
gets
confusing
so
generally,
if
there's
like,
but
that's
why
I
also
remove
the
multiple
home
occupation,
prohibitions
and
just
put
them
all
into
home
occupation,
and
that's
where
we
have
other
prohibitions
for
home
occupations
for
what
can
and
can't
be
included
so
rather
than
try
to
decide
like.
Why
did
the
city
put
it
in
two
different
places?
O
Is
one
distinct
from
the
other
and
is
one
creating
an
exception
to
an
exception.
That
kind
of
thing
my
recommendation
was
just
to
streamline
and
not
create
distinctions
if
we're
not
putting
in
a
policy
change,
that's
associated
with
the
distinction.
So
you
definitely
could
you
absolutely
could
there
were
no
recommended
distinctions
that
came
out
of
planning
commission.
K
Chair
counselors
counselor
cassette:
yes,
the
state
is
in
charge
of
licensing
and
regulating
the
cannabis
industry.
Okay
and
the
plans.
A
N
All
right,
I
think
those
are
all
my
questions
for
the
moment.
Taking
a
look
at
that
zoning
map
will
be
really
helpful,
as
this
merges
your
committee
so
may
have
more
as
as
we
see
this
later
I'll
yield
the
floor
for
now.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
and
now
I
have
a
question
for
the
committee,
so
I
was
just
gonna
go
down
the
line
in
terms
of
who
asked
to
hear
this.
We
do
have
other
hands
up
as
well.
So
if
it's
okay
with
you
counselor
garcia,
can
I
go
to
councilwoman
via
real
and
then
I'll
go
to
you
next
and
then
we'll
go
to
councillor
rivera
all
right,
so
councilwoman
via.
E
Rail
thank
you,
madam
chair,
I'd
like
to
go
back
to
the
canopy
piece,
because.
E
Taking
that
out
well
for
one
it
was
passed
by
the
planning
commission
so
making
that
change
do
we
need
to
go
back
to
the
planning
commission
because
they
approved
it
with
the
canopy
piece?
E
And
that's
just
one
question
I
have
first,
so
should
it
go
back
to
the
planning
commission
because
that's
a
substantial
change
and
maybe
there's
a
way
to
modify
it
so
we're
still
utilizing
canopy
but
making
it
more.
E
O
Councilwoman
darielle
the
counselor,
so
there
is
no
substantive
change
that
comes
out
of
that.
So
the
the
policy
outcome
is
the
same.
In
terms
of
that
change
that
you
could
certainly
amend
to
add
in
canopy,
if
you
would
like
to
so,
there
was
no
policy
change
made.
O
There
is
no
requirement
that
bills
you
consider
have
to
be
passed
in
a
certain
form
by
the
planning
commission.
There
is
a
requirement.
The
bills
you
consider
are
signed
off
for
legal
sufficiency,
so
I
often
make
suggested
technical
edits
to
bills
so
that
I
can
sign
up
on
them
for
legal
sufficiency.
They
might
just
be
missing
a
word.
Sometimes.
O
E
Okay,
well,
in
this
case,
I
feel
like
canopy,
made
more
sense
to
me
when
I
looked
at
the
old
legislation,
because
we're
talking
about
the
built
environment
as
it
relates
to
land
use
and
when
I
think
about
oh,
we
need
to
count
the
number
of
plants
that
didn't
make
sense
to
me.
Just
because
there's
different
growing
styles,
and
so
is
there
a
way,
then
we
can
utilize
canopy
and
make
it
more
distinct.
As
you
indicated,
and
who
would
do
that,
would
this
go
back
to
the.
E
The
working
the
subcommittee
to
work
out
or
the.
M
M
Those
are
the
only
two
production
licenses
and
so
basically,
if
you're
a
cannabis
producer,
you're
allowed
in
certain
areas,
if
you're
a
cannabis
micro,
business
you're
allowed
in
other
areas,
so
we're
not
counting
the
plants
we're
looking
at
the
license
that
was
obtained.
So
that's
kind
of
the
first
explanation.
M
M
So
when
you
look
at
their
bill-
and
you
have
the
outline
of
cannabis,
producer
micro,
business
that
had
extra
small,
small,
medium
and
large,
all
of
those
designations
had
the
exact
same
zoning.
So
if
the
committee
would
like
to
recommend
a
change
in
zoning
based
on
the
size
of
the
canopy,
then
including
canopy
in
the
in
the
ordinance
and
moving
forward
with
designating
different
zones
would
make
sense.
E
O
Romero
worth
counselor
video,
I
think
I
think
staff
has
information
on
this,
but
the
the
number
of
plants
is
established
at
the
state
statute
level
in
new
mexico.
So
we're
not
we're
not
creating
that
type
of
a
distinction.
It's
it's
created
in
the
state
statute,.
M
Another
counselor,
at
least
in
california.
There
is
a
difference
in
canopy,
but
only
when
they're,
not
a
micro
business,
so
they
almost
have
the
same
trigger
point
you're,
either
a
micro
business
or
a
producer,
and
if
you're
a
producer,
you
can
have
specific
canopy
sizes
that
that
go
outward.
So
maybe
you
have
10
000
square
feet
or
an
acre,
but
those
are
the
kind
of
triggering
designations
is
micro,
business
versus
producer,
at
least
in
all
the
licenses
that
I
that
I
looked
into
so
we
could
decide.
K
And
I
and
madam
chair
and
counselor
and
counselor
viral,
I
would
say
that
no
other
municipality
in
new
mexico
is
considering
canopy
that
I'm
aware
of
right
now
it
would
make
us
distinctively
different
and
especially
with
the
fact
that
the
state
has
said-
and
we
gotta
assume
that
the
state
has
pre-
is
looking
at
other
states
right
and
and
trying
to
see
states
that
already
have
it
legalized
and
whatnot
that,
if
they
want
to
choose
canopy
size
is
the
way
that
they
were
going
to
regulate
cannabis
production.
K
Then
they
probably
you
know,
would
have
suggested
that
and
it's
not
to
say
that
other
states
are
doing
anything
wrong.
It's
just
the
way
that
the
state
of
new
mexico
is
and
we're
from
a
regulatory
standpoint
we're
not
going
to
go
in
there
and
count
every
plant,
that's
the
state's
job
right
when
they
issue
licenses.
K
Likewise,
we
probably
aren't
going
to
go
in
there
and
measure
every
canopy
once
the
state
issues
a
license
for
amount
of
plants
under
a
canopy
size
that
the
city
has
done
a
regulation
for
so
you
would
I'm
just
putting
that
out
there.
Just
it
is
kind
of
different
from
the
approaches
that
other
municipalities,
including
the
county,
is
taking
to
to
regulate
this
industry.
E
E
The
land
use
zoning
piece
that
we
could
that
we
need
something
that
would
help
us
differentiate,
differentiate
and
decide
on
like
size,
square
footage
versus
plant
numbers.
I
don't
know.
K
Well
and
counselors
counselor
fiorel.
I
I
think
that
it
is
a
good
point
that
you're
making
and
I
think
that
it's
really
important
to
say
that
our
we're
tasked
with
saying
what
districts
does
these
various
sizes
go
going
right
like?
Where
is
this
a
permitted
use?
I
think
that's
what
local
legislative
local
municipalities
are
tasked
with.
K
Where
is
this
the
right
fit
for
this
sizing
and
I
think,
to
city
attorney
mcsharry's
point,
condensing
it
down
into
categories
where
we
said
you
know
the
size
differentiating
doesn't
matter
at
this
point,
because
they're
allowed
in
these
districts
they're
all
out
in
the
same
districts
with
the
micro
businesses
allowed
in
different
districts,
because
we
know
that's
the
smallest
type
of
production.
K
I
think
that's
where
you
know
we
went
from
having
14
lines
on
the
table
to
you
know
having
three
lines
on
the
table
for
production
categories,
because
it
was
just
too
many
and
citrine
mcsherry
was
trying
to
condense
that.
But
I
like
like
saying,
if
you
feel
that
it's
that
we
should
put
that
in
there,
then
absolutely
that
should
be
put
in
there,
but
I
think
that
it's
really
kind
of
local
musicalities
are
tasked
with.
Where
is
this
going
to
be
allowed?
What
are
the
densities
again?
K
The
states
set
up
the
framework
of
what
we
can't
do
and
said
pretty
much
what
we
can
do
and
then
we
were
trying
to
it.
That's
the
goal
right
is
to
adhere
to
what
the
state
has
already
said.
We
could
do
and
kind
of
fit
it
in
there.
So
that
was
what
the
thought
process
was
behind
them.
E
M
Counselor,
I
think
if
you
want
it
to
make
a
difference,
it
can.
So
if
you
look
at
the
the
zoning
bill
where
the
planning
commission
designated
canopy
size,
you
have
the
power
to
change
those.
So
if
you
want
extra
small
in
all
of
those
zones
and
keep
them
as
permitted
uses,
you
can
do
that
and
differentiate
it
from
the
large
canopy
and
only
put
that
in
one
place.
M
E
Okay,
that
makes
sense
so
I
mean
I
would
like
to
see
what
that
looks
like
extra
small
versus
another
size
of
canopy.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
means
us
doing
like.
I
don't
know
just
having
a
conversation
off
except
from
this
meeting,
so
I
can
kind
of
see
what
that
looks
like,
like
I'm
more
visual
I'd,
rather
look
at
it
from
a
kind
of
visual
point
of
view.
So.
M
M
M
So
this
is
the
overarching
grouping
cannabis
micro
producer,
which
would
have
a
micro
production
license.
This
is
broken
out
into
extra
small,
being
2
500
square
feet,
maximum
small
2
501
to
10,
000
and
so
on.
So
each
of
these
has
a
canopy
size
and
technically
all
of
these
could
be
differentiated
from
one
another.
But
as
you
see
here,
every
single
size
is
exactly
the
same
permitted
use.
So
I
think
that's
that's.
M
What
we're
talking
about
why
canopy
as
it
was
applied
in
this
bill,
did
not
differentiate,
but
you
could
change
it
where
extra
small
keeps
all
these
permitted
uses
and
then
maybe
small
you
change
some
of
these
or
not,
and
then,
when
you
get
to
large,
which
is
the
22
000
and
one
or
more,
you
could
restrict
it
in
certain
areas
or
you
could
make
it
a
special
use
permit
instead.
So
I
think
that's
that's
visually.
E
Thank
you
thanks
for
the
additional
information
I
I
guess
I'm
just
wondering
where
how
many
places
would
actually
accommodate
for
a
large
anyway,
I
don't
know-
and
I
think
that
would
be
my
kind
of
thought
process
like
how
many
places
actually
would
fall
into
that
category
of
large
cat
canopy.
So
we
could
kind
of
visually
see
the
potential
impact.
E
I
don't
know
if
that's
possible,
to
be
able
to
kind
of
like
look
at
our
land.
I
don't
know
open
land
vacant
land.
I
don't
know
I'm
just
because
it's
not
necessarily
vacant
land,
they
could
be
doing
hydroponics.
They
could
be
doing
what
else
like
raised
beds.
Maybe
I
don't
know,
I'm
just
there's
a
lot,
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
the
options
here
but
canopy
like
I.
E
I
can
visualize
that
better
than
being
like
all
right,
we
have
to
count
the
plants,
so
maybe
I'd
like
to
we
work
on
that
canopy
piece
more
and
just
understand
what
that
could
look
like.
Potentially,
if
we,
if
we
make
it
more
specific,
I
guess
the
other
question
I
had
just
because
I
had
gotten
a
a
question
from
a
constituent
about
religious
institutions.
K
Chair
remember
where
them
counselors
counselor
via
real.
We
did
explore
that,
and
the
policy
subcommittee
felt
that
it
was
didn't
feel
that
they
wanted
to
pursue
it
anymore.
K
The
state
went
ahead
and
came
out
with
their
regulations,
which
didn't
include
religious
institutions,
that's
not
to
say
that
that
the
city
couldn't
include
religious
institutions,
but
it
was
an
idea
that
was
explored
and
ultimately,
the
policy
subcommittee
decided
not
to
recommend
exploring
the
religious
institution
distances.
K
E
I
mean
I
did
look
at
other
places
or
was
given
information
about
other
rules,
and
there
aren't
many
places
that
include
the
religious
institution
piece.
It's
mostly
schools
and
day
care
centers.
There
was
one
other
that
was
like.
E
Like
jails,
prisons
or
I
don't
know,
if
you
saw
that
if,
if
you
all
considered
that
piece
not
that
we,
I
was
trying
to
think
if
that
even
applied
to
us,
except
for
the
detention
center
juvenile
detention
center,
which
is
not
necessarily,
I
didn't
think
it
was
running
anymore.
So
I
don't
know
if
this
would
be
applicable
to
us.
I
think
it
was
more
for
county.
Do
you
know
what
county
did
for
that.
K
Chair
counselor,
council
real,
so
I
think
that
the
county
didn't
do
religious
institutions
and
I
don't
think
they
did
any
distances
between
jails
or
or
prisons
or
in
cars.
E
E
E
K
E
I
appreciate
all
the
work,
especially
with
the
significant
time
constraints
that
we're
working
in.
I
think
we
probably
will
realize
there's
some
things
we'll
have
to
tweak.
Obviously
that
are
already
in
place
now
that
we're
looking
at
and
then
I
guess
the
other
question
is
since
that
establishment
or
the
consumption
piece
hasn't
been
fully
fleshed
out.
What
happens
with
those
marijuana,
the
medical
marijuana
establishments
that
currently
exist
in
santa
fe
and
if
they
start
applying
for
a
cannabis
consumption
license?
K
Chair
counselors
council,
we
real,
we
would
it's
a
great
question.
So
if
it's,
if
we
haven't
passed
regulations
for
consumption
areas,
then
we
would
not
issue
them
a
license
of
zoning
or
we
wouldn't
issue
them
as
any
verification
letter,
which
is
the
key
to
the
state.
Giving
licenses
out
is
the
zoning
verification
letters
that
were
that
we
would
be
issuing
so
for
consumption
areas.
Even
if
it's
a
medicinal
marijuana
place
that
has
onsite
consumption
and
we
don't
have
consumption
for
recreational
use
past
then
we
wouldn't
be
issuing
any
any
letters
for
zoning
verification.
E
A
Thank
you,
councilwoman
councillor,
garcia,.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
First
just
wanna
thank
you,
noah
and
the
planning
commission
sub
policy
subcommittee
on
the
planning,
commission
and
all
the
staff
that's
worked
on.
This
is
councilwoman
via
rial
said.
This
is
a
huge
lift
and
short
period
of
times
and
there's
lots
of
details
to
be
focused
on
here,
and
so
thank
you
all
for
for
focusing
on
the
details.
C
C
I
know
that
with
liquor
licenses,
that's
that
religious
institutions-
or
I
think
it's
laid
out
as
churches
in
our
city
code
for
liquor
licenses
that
it
is
impacting
those
religious
institutions.
So
I
think
we
should,
in
that
sense
treat
them
the
same.
We
shouldn't
treat
any
of
these
recreational
substances
in
in
a
different
manner,
and
so
I
guess
a
quick
question:
do
we
with
our
current
ordinance?
Do
we
allow
for
cannabis
medical
dispensaries
to
be
located
near
religious
institutions.
K
Chair
counselor,
counselor
garcia.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Yes,
we
would
allow
them
because
there's
no
prohibition
against
allowing
within
a
distance.
C
Okay-
and
so
I
guess
my
follow-up
to
that
is
if
we
were
to
bring
this
ordinance
into
alignment
with
the
way
we
regulate
alcohol
licenses.
C
Is
there
a
manner
for
us
to
grandfather
in
the
existing
dispensaries
that
way,
the
existing
dispensaries
won't
be
impacted,
but
future
licenses
will
have
to
adhere
to
the
ordinance
prohibiting.
Potentially,
you
know
so
many
feet
near
a
religious
institution.
K
Chair
counselors,
yes,
we
could
their
the
grandfathering.
Provision
still
stands.
So
if
we
were
to
change
a
provision
to
that,
they
would
be
grandfathered
in
to
the
new
regulations
and
at
any
point
if
they
went
out
of
business
or
they
stopped
operation
for
a
period
of
365
days
or
longer,
they
would
go
into
non-conforming
status
and
then
they
would
not
be
allowed
to
be
allowed
in
that
same
location
if
it
was
within
a
distance
of
a
daycare
or
school
or
a
church
of
a
religious
institution.
C
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
noah.
For
that
clarification,
I
thought
that
would
be
the
case
because
I
don't
want
to
penalize
somebody
that's
already
currently
operating
so
with
that
being
said,
I
think
I
see
jesse
on
the
line
jesse.
Can
you
begin
to
draft
up
an
amendment
for
this
ordinance
for
me
to
include
within
the
I
think,
it's
a
300-foot
rule
and
apply
it
to
religious
institutions.
C
I
think,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
in
the
city
code,
currently
the
way
it
works
for
liquor
licenses.
It's
laid
out
as
churches,
but
I
you
know,
I
think,
we're
then
limiting
it
to
one
type
of
denomination
where
we
don't
want
to
discriminate
in
that
manner
and
if
we
phrase
it
as
religious
institutions,
then
I
think
we're
we're
kind
of
covering
all
bases
unless
there's
a
more
appropriate
term
to
be
used.
C
So
so
with
that,
that's
those
are
my
comments
on
that.
My
other
question
was
in
regards
to
the
entrances
main
the
main
entrances,
and
that's
where
we're
going
to
be
measuring
the
the
I
think,
that's
the
400
foot
rule
is
that
correct
councillors,
counselor
garcia,
that's
correct!
Okay!
The
only
concern
I
have
about
that
is.
C
If
a
potential
business
then
changes
what
would
traditionally
be
a
front
entrance
to
maybe
the
back
entrance
to
become
their
new
front
entrance
to
fall
within
that
400
foot
rule
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
a
loophole
that
we've
got
to
consider.
Looking
at
the
map
that
you
showed
with,
you
know,
downtown
santa
fe.
You
know
where
businesses
are
more
consolidated
and
compacted
that
might
be
harder,
given
back
entrances,
our
alleys-
and
I
don't
know
if
we
would
approve
that.
I
honestly,
I
think,
that's
a
question
for.
C
Would
we
approve
that
if,
if
somebody
wanted,
what
would
traditionally
be?
Let's?
Let's,
for
example,
let's
say
we're
downtown
santa
fe
and
what
would
traditionally
be
a
front
entrance
street
street
side,
but
they
want
to
then
modify
their
entrance
change
their
front
entrance
to
you
enter
the
the
business
through
an
alleyway
to
to
meet
this
400
foot
rule.
Would
we
in
that
instance,
change
what
we
designate
a
front
entrance.
K
Chair
romero
worth
counselor
counselor
garcia.
Thank
you
for
the
question,
so
I
think
it's
really
important
to
when
we
we
really
got
into
the
weeds
about
this
entrance
thing.
I
promise
you
this
was
we
spent
a
couple
hours
on
this
whole
entrance
thing
and
and
tirelessly
worked
at
it
and
ultimately,
what
it
came
down
to
is
building
codes
right,
so
the
building
code
designates
it
for
your
certificate
of
compliance
or
your
certificate
of
occupancy
and
with
your
fire
inspection,
you
have
to
designate
a
front
entrance.
K
So
if
somebody
wanted
to
arbitrarily
change
their
entrance
and
they
came
for
a
zoning
verification,
like
hey
look,
I'm
using
my
alleyway
entrance,
we
would
look
back
at
where
their
primary
entrance
that
was
given
to
them
to
occupy
that
space
is
and
that's
where
staff
would
look
at
the
400
feet
from
that
entrance
and
if
they
want
to
change
it,
you
know,
without
after
they
got
their
zoning
verification,
then
that
could
be
potentially
a
violation,
but
we
and
we
could
potentially
re
right
work
with
the
state
to
revoke
their
license
if
they
started
doing
something
along
those
lines.
C
Okay,
that's
good
to
know
that
there'll
be
that
kind
of
historical
context
that'll
be
looked
into
in
regards
to
this
is
where
it
traditionally
was
versus.
This
is
where
it's
being
proposed.
Now
am
I
understanding
that
correctly?
That's
that's
correct!
Counselor!
Thank
you.
C
Okay,
awesome
and
the
only
other
thing
I
can
think
of
in
that
scenario
is
if
somebody
was
to
you,
know,
remodel
and
renovate
and
make
a
new
entrance,
and
I
think
that,
just
again
to
you
gets
us
in
the
weeds-
and
I
I
think
should
that
should
prove
to
be
challenging
in
the
future.
That's
where
we
could
always
come
back
and
modify
and
adjust
this
accordingly.
C
With
that
being
said,
I've
got
no
other
questions,
just
just
the
request
that
I've
put
forward
to
to
jesse
to
begin
to
draft
an
amendment
to
include
religious
institutions
in
the
300-foot
world,
with
schools
and
daycares.
A
Thank
you
councillor,
councillor
rivera.
D
No,
I'm
looking
at
the
cannabis
zoning
bill
signed
for
legal
sufficiency,
I
think
they're,
all
the
ones
that
are
in
the
packet
are
pretty
much
the
same,
but
really
wanted
to
discuss
disposal
of
composting
and
agricultural
waste
in
accordance
with
local
and
state
waste
disposal
regulations.
So
what
do
we
have
as
far
as
local
local
waste
disposal
regulations
and
as
the
state
come
up
with
anything
yet
for
disposal
of
cannabis?.
K
Madam
chair
counselors
counselor
rivera.
Thank
you
for
the
question
also,
so,
essentially,
what
we've
got
is
the
state
has
not
come
up
with
disposal
regulations
that
I'm
aware
of,
but
for
the
cannabis
products
for
recreational
cannabis
and
production,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
we
as
a
local
municipality
for
solid
waste.
K
I
think
we
have
strict
regulations
about
placement,
locking
of
containers
sizing
of
containers
where
it
has
to
have
access
and
and
whatnot,
I'm
not
very
familiar
with
what
solid
waste
regulations
are
in
place,
but
I
can
tell
you
from
a
land
use
perspective
when
we're
dealing
with
developments,
how
we
work
with
solid
waste.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
that
answers
your
question
or
if
andrea
or
aaron
have
anything
to
add
that
I
might
not
know
about
this
subject.
M
Here,
counselor
rivera,
I
believe
that
there
is
a
process
for
waste.
I
I
think
it
it
is
described
in
the
rules,
but
I
can't
cite
to
it
right
now:
I'm
happy
to
look
through
it
while
you're
still
talking
and
get
back
to
you.
D
K
Counselor
rivera,
I
don't
think
that
we
are
contemplating
selling
on-site
on-site
compost
as
a
permitted
use.
I
think
we've
established
what
type
of
cannabis
uses
would
be
permitted,
and
that
includes
a
retail
location
and
I
think
we
we
defined
that
under
retail
locations
and
then
under
production
we
define
the
different
levels
of
production,
so
I
think
that
would
be
all
that
would
be
allowed
anything
past.
That,
I
think,
would
be
a
violation.
If
it's
not
permitted,
then
it
isn't
permitted.
K
So
I
don't
think
it's
explicitly
says
that
it
would
be
the
permitted
use
to
sell
the
compost.
But
I
do
appreciate
the
question
because
it
does
point
us
back
to
the
urban
agriculture
section
of
our
land
use
code,
which
was
created
in
2016,
which
I
don't
think
really
contemplated
growing
marijuana
but
has
been
used
as
such
throughout
the
years.
So
I
I
think,
with
with
those
provisions
in
there,
I
don't
think
any.
There
wasn't
really
any
changes
in
terms
to
those
sections
to
that
section.
Specifically,
I
think
forthcoming.
K
If
there's
changes
at
the
state
level,
I
think
we
could
amend
the
code
to
address
how
composting
is
done
or
disposal
is
done
of
cannabis.
Products.
M
Chair
council
betta,
there
is
a
section
in
the
administrative
code
rules
all
about
waste
and
the
permitted
methods
for
waste
which
has
to
have
a
tracking
mechanism
and
if
it
is
disposed
of
or
used
as
waste-
and
I
don't
think
this
is
exactly
compost.
But
if
there
is
compost
it
has
to
be
down
to
less
than
50
percent
of
cannabis
and
mixed
with
other
compost
materials
to
be
used
for
anything
else.
But
they
do
have
strict
regulations
about
tracking
and
batch
numbers
and
all
of
that
information.
So
they
will
be
regulating
that
portion.
M
Chair
counselor,
I
believe
it
has
to
be
in
in
accordance
with
the
provisions
of
the
new
mexico
administrative
code
and
regulated
by
the
regulation
department.
So
we
we
probably
are
encouraging
compost
and
it
is
allowed
under
a
certain
disposal
method,
but
they
have
to
meet
the
requirements
of
the
state
for
that
type
of
disposal,
method.
D
All
right
and
in
that
process,
just
really
disposables
in
general,
who
regulates
that
of
what's
going
to
the
landfill?
Is
it
the
state
as
well.
M
Cannabis
facilities,
so
that
is
regulated
by
the
state
and
there's
different
disposal
methods
if
it,
if
it
isn't
composted
and
is
under
50
percent
non-cannabis
material,
then
it
has
to
be
disposed
of
as
if
it
was
hazardous
waste
in
accordance
with
hazardous
waste
laws.
D
D
Not
a
land
use
question,
but
clearly
our
landfill
is
able
to
handle
that
or
is
aware
of,
what's
coming
down
the
road
and
are
starting
to
prepare.
Have
we
discussed
any
of
that
yeah.
M
D
You
know
clearly
they're
not
going
to
dispose
of
cannabis,
but
it's
the
byproducts
or
other
things
that
may
be
a
byproduct
of
of
growing
it
or
whatever
else,
I'm
not
too
familiar
with
cannabis,
but
that's
their
question.
So
thank
you
for
the
answer.
The
next
question
is
on
page
15.
It
says
it
talks
about
safety
and
security.
D
It
says
all
cannabis
establishments
must
comply
with
state
law
and
regulations
concerning
safety
and
security.
In
addition
to
applicable
provisions,
sfc
cc
1987
so
has
the
state
established
those
safety
and
security
regulations,
yet.
K
Madam
chair
counselors,
counselor
rivera
the
state
has
not
yet
formalized
those
regulations,
as
of
now,
I
believe
right
is
andrea.
Is
that
correct.
M
Terror
counselor.
I
believe
that
there
are
security
regulations
so
in
there
is
the
new
mexico
administrative
code,
sections
that
they
outlined
does
have
a
licensing
and
procedures
section,
and
so
it
does
talk
about.
You
know:
tracking
mechanisms,
requirements
for
security
and
surveillance,
so
there
are
standards
that
they
have
to
meet
in
order
to
be
operating
in
cannabis,
business
we're
not
necessarily
regulating
those
that
is
the
state
regulating
them,
but
they
do
have
provisions.
D
D
K
Counselor,
council
rivera-
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
that
prohibits
them
from
having
on-site
security.
They
would
be
allowed
to
have
security.
I
I
think
that
you
know
we
have
height
limitations
on
fences.
We
don't
really
allow
for
barbed
wire
unless
it's
approved
through
special
circumstance.
So
I
don't
think
there's
anything
I
I
don't
know.
If
I'm
answering
your
question
correctly
and
I'm
dreaming,
does
the.
M
Council
rivera
there
is
a
provision
about
security
guards
that
they
are
permitted
but
not
required,
and
that
contract
security
guards
must
be
licensed
other
under
the
private
investigations
act.
I
don't
it
says:
security
guards
must
comply
with
all
laws
related
to
firearms
and
other
weapons.
So
I
assume
that
that
act,
which
I
have
not
looked
at-
allows
for
armed
security
officers,
but
they
have
to
follow
the
regulations
of
that
private
investigations,
act
and
other
weapons
or
firearms
related
laws.
K
Madam
chair
counselors,
counselor
rivera
so
razor
wire
barbed
wire
are
prohibited
through
our
city
code
and
there
is
a
very
unique
exception
to
that,
which
is
by
granting,
by
granted
permission
of
the
public
works
director
very
buried
in
our
land
use
code.
For
some
reason,
strange
provision
not
sure
how
it
got
there,
so
no
they
wouldn't.
And
if,
if
it's
a
commercial
cannabis
establishment,
it's
allowed
up
to
an
eight-foot
fence
or
wall
because
it's
a
non-residential
use.
K
So
that
would
be
what
they'd
be
allowed
and
if
they
wanted
to
put
razor
wire
barbed
wire,
they
would
need
to
get
probably
an
exception
from
the
public
works
director,
which
I
don't
think
I've
ever
seen
done.
But
I'm
not
to
say
it
couldn't
happen.
D
K
Madam
chair
counselor,
counselor
rivera,
I
don't
have
a
real
opinion
about
where
it
belongs,
but
I'm
not
even
sure
how
it
got
there.
So
you
know
if
that's
where
it
is,
then
that
seems
fine,
but
if
it
belongs
in
land
use,
then
that's.
Okay,
too,.
D
I
I
think,
based
on
stories,
I've
heard
from
colorado,
it's
gonna
be
become
a
question
that
arises
here
soon,
so
maybe
something
we
need
to
think
about.
D
K
Ma'am,
chair,
counselor,
counselor,
rivera
director
kluk,
is
is
in
the
attendees
box
and
hopefully
he's
listening
and
and
ms
diaz
can
promote
him
so
that
he
can
answer
that
question
because
I
I
don't
have
anything
from
director
kloop.
I
I
promoted
him
okay
great,
so
he
should
be
on
here.
Any
second.
P
Thank
you,
madam
chair
counselors,
counselor
rivera.
Yes,
I
I
apologize.
I
was
trying
to
pull
up
the
email
that
I
sent
you
all
it
was
it
was
over.
A
month
ago,
I
sent
an
article
that
was
sorted
to
me
from
neil
denton,
our
sustainability
officer
regarding
the
yeah,
the
the
environmental
effects
of
growing
marijuana
and.
P
I'm
having
trouble
finding
it,
but
basically
I
I
think
the
the
basically
it
wasn't.
I
wouldn't
say
it's
damning,
but
you
know
there
were
definitely
arguments.
You
know
supporting
the
fact
that
it
does.
You
know
it
does
have
detrimental
environmental
things
or
potentially
good.
D
Yeah,
so
I
guess
noah
or
jason
are
in,
could
we
do
something
in
code
or
in
the
land
use
regulations
that
I
just
asked
for.
D
I
don't
know,
I'm
sure
I
know
the
answer
to
this,
but
ask
for
indoor
production
to
use
best
practices
to
try
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
to
the
extent
possible.
P
Yes,
madam
chair
counselors,
council
rivera,
so
we
you
know
they
they
will
have
to
abide
by
building
code
for
ventilation
and
filtration,
and
we
have
included
that
in
the
in
this
legislative
proposal,
or
you
know
as
a
you
know,
if
they
come
in
for
a
certificate
of
occupancy
or
excuse
me,
compliance
or
a
building
permit,
they
will
have
to
meet
those
standards.
P
So
I'm
not
sure
if
that
really
it
seemed.
I
think
there
have
been
more
research.
I
don't
think
that
necessarily
answers
your
question
or
would
necessarily
you
know,
be
a
solution
for
the
for
your
concern,
but
it
seems
like
it
definitely
is
headed
in
the
right
direction.
As
far
as
you
know,
preventing
odors.
D
Yeah
and
the
reason
I
bring
this
up
is
there
was
a
recent
study
in
colorado
from
colorado
state
university
that
said,
indoor
cannabis
accounts
for
1.3
percent
of
the
state's
total
greenhouse
gas
emissions
while
compared
to
coal
is
at
1.8,
so
they're
really
close,
and
you
know
we're
trying
to
meet
greenhouse
gas
emission
standard
that
we've
we've
set
for
ourselves,
and
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
of
a
concern.
I'm
not
sure
if
we
can
do
anything
about
it,
but
just
wanted
to
bring
it
up.
D
Discussion
from
retail
retailer
to
retailer,
I
think
that
can
be
tweaked
a
little
bit
and
people
could
kind
of
work
their
way
around
the
law
there
and
then
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
for
talking
about
canopy
size
as
well,
and
then
religious
institutions
in
our
current
rules
with
alcohol,
the
religious
institutions
are
allowed
to
write
a
letter
of
approval
or
saying
that
they
don't
mind
that
there
are
that
there's
liquor
being
sold
within
300
foot
would
that
still
apply
to
cannabis.
K
Mound
chair,
council
rivera,
that's
a
great
question.
As
I
have
read
the
regulations,
I
don't
think
they're
allowing
the
same
no
exemptions
for
liquor
licenses
to
cannabis,
because
I
don't
think
there's
going
to
be
waivers
to
that
as
been
written
right
now.
I
too
was
thinking
about
that
too
and
wondering
the
same
exact
question,
but
I
don't
think
that's
been
built
into
this
cannabis
establishment.
I
think
it's
a
hard.
No,
if
you're
within
that
distance,.
D
Okay
and
then
similar
to
liquor,
we
have
there's
an
appeal
process
now
or
if
the
applicant
doesn't
agree
with
what
the
city
regulations
are,
what
we've
established
there's
an
appeal
process
through
the
state.
Does
that
still
hold
true
with
cannabis
as
well.
K
Mount
chair,
council
rivera
so
the
variance
process,
so
I
guess
it's
kind
of
a
multi-prong
kind
of
question
right,
so
a
use
if
they're
not
allowed
in
a
district,
there's
no
variance
process
to
that.
There's
no
exemption
to
that
you're.
Just
you
need
to
be
resumed
right.
That
is
our
normal
process
to
allow
for
uses
that
wouldn't
normally
be
allowed
in
the
district
that
you're,
given
any
of
the
regulations
like
the
300
foot
regulation,
that's
set
up
by
the
state,
but
the
city
has
adopted.
K
I
don't
think
there'd
be
a
variance
request
to
that,
but
perhaps
for
the
distance
requirement
I
could.
I
would
imagine
that
we
would
treat
it
just
like
we
treat
liquor
license
and
not
allow
for
variances
to
that
for
the
distances.
So
I
would
I
the
framework
for
how
variants
would
be
taken
through
this.
K
I
don't
think
I've
really
been
established
yet
through
the
policies
and
procedures
type
of
thing,
but
my
my
quick
answer
be:
there's
probably
no
variance
procedures
to
these
regulations,
they're,
just
zoning
regulations
that
pertain
to
a
type
of
use
in
a
district-
and
this
is
how
the
use
is
regulated
in
the
district.
And
if
you
don't
want
to
use
that
use,
then
then
you
go
to
a
different
type
of
use.
D
K
Counselor
rivera,
thank
you.
I
would
defer
to
our
our
legal
staff
to
answer
the
question.
O
Andre
and
are
looking
at
each
other,
so
chairwoman,
ramirez
council
rivera
this
will
be
a
very
it.
Is
it
is
separately
regulated
by
the
state.
So
I'm
looking
at
our
liquor
what
what
the
appeal
procedure
for
liquor
licenses,
I
don't
think
that
it's
going
to
be
a
different
structure,
so
this
is
really
based
on
land
use
rather
than
requesting
a
permit,
which
I
think
is
often
the
situation
when
we
have
a
caring
for
liquor
license.
O
I
can
look
further
and
get
you
a
better
answer,
but
I
don't
think
there's
going
to
really
be
an
appeal.
What
could
happen
is
if
we
regulate
too
much
to
the
extent
that
someone
claims
that
we're
prohibiting
the
ability
to
sell
cannabis
in
the
city,
then
our
ordinances
could
be
appealed
in
general,
not
as
to
a
particular
retail
establishment,
but
just
as
to
the
overarching
construct.
O
So
if
we
were
to
require
so
much
distance
between
various
things
that
the
dent
that
there
just
is
not
an
ability
for
new
establishments
to
to
come
into
santa
fe,
that
would
be
a
problem,
and
I
think
our
our
our
ordinance
could
be
disputed
in
that
sense,
and
it
could
be,
you
know,
taken
to
court
and
challenged,
but
as
to
a
particular
area.
I
don't
think
an
appeal
would
make
sense
if
it's
not
a
permitted
use
in
that
area.
D
Okay
and
then,
lastly,
regarding
water
use,
so
if
you
have
a
let's
say,
a
warehouse
that
uses
very
little
water
now
and
they
want
to
turn
it
into
an
indoor
cannabis
facility
that
uses
significantly
more
water.
How
does
that
handle?
I
know
with
new
construction,
they
have
to
bring
in
their
own
water
rights.
How
does
it
work
with
a
cannabis
industry
taking
over
an
existing
warehouse.
K
Chairwoman
and
councillor
rivera,
I
would
say
that,
basically,
what
we
would
in
that
scenario
they
would
have
to
be.
K
They
would
have
to
have
a
separate
water
meter
for
their
new
for
their
new
use
for
cannabis,
and
they
would
have
to
be
required
to
do
to
do
a
water
budget
and
provide
the
credits
for
that
establishment,
and
we
have
been
working
with
our
water
company
to
to
for
the
water
division
to
go
ahead
and
look
at
is
cannabis,
have
more
or
less
water
consumption
than
any
other
operations
and
we're
working
to
get
some
information,
at
least
by
the
time
we
get
to
council.
Because
I
know
that's.
K
A
huge
concern
is
about
the
water
usage,
but
as
far
as
the
regulatory
framework,
they
would
have
to
produce
the
credits
and
do
a
separate
meter
for
because
they
would
treat
it
as
such.
A
use
that
wouldn't
require
a
separate
meter
and
they'd
have
to
do
a
water
budget
for
it.
A
Sorry,
looking
for
my
mute
button,
all
right-
I
I
do
have
some
questions,
but
I
have
a
couple
of
counselors
who
who
have
follow-ups
so
council
cassette.
I
think
your
hand
was
up
first.
N
Thank
you
very
much,
matt
chair.
This
is
actually
just
a
really
quick
question
again
thinking
about
this.
This
density
piece,
because
I
know
that's
a
place
that
we
actually
do
have
some
some
leeway.
Did
we
look
at
when
you
guys
were
considering
with
those
heat
maps
and
distances
between
retailers?
Did
you
did
you
take
into
consideration
anywhere
there,
a
layer
that
would
see
where
there
are
child
care,
centers
or
schools,
or
other
things
that
might
restrict
the
locations
of
these
potential
retailers.
K
Madam
chair
counselors
counselor
cassette.
Thank
you
for
the
question,
so
we
didn't
look
at
that
and,
as
part
of
our
consideration,
I
think
we
figured
that
any
new
establishments
wouldn't
be
allowed
within
300
feet
and
existing
establishments
that
were
within
300
feet,
which
we
didn't
inventory.
So
I
couldn't
tell
you
precisely
how
many
there
were
or
are
would
be
grandfathered
in.
So
we
didn't
really
look
at
that
if
we're
more
concentrated
in
our
analysis
of
just
looking
at
what
might
be
the
right
density.
N
K
Counselors,
I
think
there
definitely
is
an
ability
to
do
that.
I
think
we
have
our
and
would
so
just
to
clarify
counselor
cass
that
you
would
want
to
see
day
cares
schools
and
perhaps
religious
institutions
on
a
map.
P
I
apologize
sorry.
No!
I
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
I
did
resend
that
article.
What's
the
cannabis
food,
we're
in
what's
the
carbon
footprint
of
cannabis,
surprisingly
high,
that's
the
title
of
the
article
that
was
sent
out.
I
believe,
right
after
that.
You
know
the
last
quality
of
life
meeting
where
we
were
on
the
same
subject
anyway.
I
just
resent
it
for
y'all,
okay,
terrific
and,
I
believe
yeah,
so
you
all
should
be
on
that
because
it
was
the
same
same
group.
E
Councilwoman
via
rail.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
to
follow
up
to
what
councilwoman
kasich
was
talking
about.
If,
if
we
could
map
that
and
the
reason
why
I
think
it
would
be
important
for
that
religious
institutions,
I
was
trying
to
think-
and
I
don't
know
obviously
where
they're
all
located,
but
a
lot
of
them
are
located
in
residential
areas
anyway
or
close
to.
So
I
think,
by
nature
of
where
they're
located
they
would
already
not
be
in
zoning
areas.
E
It
would
be
permitted
and
I'd
like
to
see
that-
and
I
just
want
to
put
a
word
of
caution
out
there.
Warehouse
21
was
used
at
one
point
for
a
religious
space
for
religious
institution
and
it
became
problematic
for
the
businesses
around
it
that
wanted
to
do.
I
know
this
is
different,
but
they
wanted
to
have
a
permit
for
an
event
to
have
liquor
and
they
couldn't
do
it
and
they
had
to
get
permission,
and
it
just
got
a
lot
more
complicated
and
it
was
because
this
space
was
being
occupied
by
intermittently.
E
Not
it
wasn't
their
main
use
of
that
space,
but
I
don't
want
us
to
fall
into
something
like
that
where
we
have
a
space,
that's
also
used
for
other
purposes,
not
just
religious
institutions
and
practices,
and
then
it
prevents
somebody
from
being
able
to
start
a
cannabis
business.
So
I
don't
know
to
your
best
of
your
ability
noah
to
be
able
to
try
to
map
religious
institutions
that
are
established.
E
And
some
of
them
are
kind
of
are
not
necessarily
they're
kind
of
off
the
radar
too.
So
I
don't
know
I'm
just
I'm
still
perplexed
by
that
and
and
then
looking
at
other
places.
I
didn't
see
any
cannabis
zoning
rules
that
apply
to
religious
institutions
and
other
states.
E
So
I'm
just
curious
about
that,
even
in
like
smaller
municipalities
that
were
a
little
bit
more
conservative
say
than
like,
maybe
a
larger
city.
So
I'm
just
curious
if
there
was
any
other
place
that
did
that
that
you
all
researched,
I'm
not
opposed
to
it.
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
like
if
they
already
would
end
up
being
protected
by
the
by
our
current
zoning
anyway.
So.
K
Madam
chair
councilwoman
virial,
I
I
think
that
basically
we
we
started
the
conversation
and
the
policy
subcommittee
kind
of
just
put
like
nope
we're,
not
even
considering
that,
and
I
think
that's
as
far,
but
I
think
it's
a
really
good
point
that
looking
around
at
researching,
if
other
places
are
doing
that,
I'm
not
sure.
So
I
can
couldn't
answer
you
that,
so
we
can
definitely
look
into
that.
A
Okay,
I've
got
a
couple
questions
I
just
want
to.
Some
of
these
are
clarifications
so
in
your
presentation,
no,
you.
I
think
it
was
you
who
said,
and
it
was
confusing
to
me.
33
medical
establishments
in
the
city
and
the
county
or
just
in
the
city.
K
K
A
Okay,
so
about
all
right,
that's
helpful
and
then,
in
terms
of
distances
between
retail
well
yeah
between
retail
establishments.
I
get
well
this.
This
is
a
question
I
have
throughout
we're
talking
about
retail,
not
the
manufacturing.
K
Yeah.
Thank
you,
madam
sure,
for
that.
For
for
that
question,
so
the
county
chose
to
do
between
retail
establishments,
only
not
production
or
any
other
categories,
200
feet.
That
was
the
that
was
what
they
chose.
K
A
Okay
and
we're
only
talking
about
that
between
retail,
we're
not
talking
about
that
between
manufacturing
or
micro
businesses
or
anything
like
that.
K
Man,
madam
chair,
thank
you
so
the
only
yes
in
general.
Yes,
the
answer
to
your
question
is
yes
between
retail
establishments,
but
if
there's
a
retail
establishment
that
has
a
production
component
to
it,
we're
just
measuring
between
the
retail
components.
So
it
could
be
a
vertically
integrated
micro
business
or
a
vertically
integrated
business
where
it
has
a
combination
of
production
and
retail.
K
A
Okay-
and
I
think
you
said,
and
I'm
looking
at
your
slide
number
seven
and
again,
I'm
just
trying
to
confirm
where
you
talked
about
a
commercial
cannabis
establishment
would
include
one
candid
category
for
cannabis,
retail
and
then
the
other
bold
is
cannabis
consumption
area,
and
I
think
you
said
the
state
has
not
regulated
either
one
of
these
yet
and
you're
we're
just
starting
to
talk
about
these.
Just
did
I
get
that
right,
we're
you're
starting
to
get
us
thinking
about
that.
K
Yes,
that's
correct,
madam
chair,
so
the
state
hasn't
developed
the
regulatory
framework
other
than
saying
that
local
municipalities
can
establish
density
limitations
between
establishments
of
any
cannabis
establishment
and
can
and
then
the
regulatory
framework
for
cannabis
consumption
areas
has
not
been
developed
yet
either.
So
I
we
haven't
decided
on
that.
But
we
have
you.
The
policy
subcommittee
and
the
planning
commission
decided
that
they
felt
that
it
was
okay
for
a
cannabis
retailer.
K
That's
only
cannabis
retail
right
to
be
allowed
in
the
same
districts
that
retail
uses
would
be
allowed
in
if
they
were
listed
in
the
permitted
uses
table
as
distracted.
There's
a
category
called
retail
establishments
not
listed
elsewhere
and
they
went
ahead
and
said
this
is
a
retail
use.
K
This
should
align
with
our
other
retail
uses
and
the
districts
that
those
are
allowed
in,
and
so
that's
why
we're
recommending
these
districts
and
then
the
hours
of
operation
and
the
density
limitations
were
where
the
policy
subcommittee
honed
in
on
those
and
decided
what
looked
best
and
they
went
consistent
with
what
the
county
had
done
for
hours
of
operation
and
then
came
up
with
what
they
felt
were.
The
best
distance
regulations
for
retail
locations.
A
A
Troubling
or
conflicting
with
the
state
we'd
just
have
to
change
it
later.
I
don't
know
what
that
would
be,
but
just
curious,
chair
romero
worth.
Can
I
speak.
O
To
that
one,
yes,
I
think
we
don't
really
even
know
so
I
think
there
that
you
might.
I
would
think
you
might
want
to
hold
off
on
the
consumption
areas
just
because
we
don't
even
know
what
level
of
regulation
will
be
imposed
by
the
states.
You
won't
really
know
what
you're
allowing
no
definitions
have
been
passed
or
anything
else
so
right
now
we
don't.
There
is
not
a
category
in
which
an
applicant
would
fall
should
they
seek
to
open
right
now
as
compared
with
these
other
types
of
retail
establishments.
O
So
I
think
that's
why
at
least
steph
is
at
this
point
recommending
that
we
prioritize
the
ones
that
we
need
to
have
in
place
before
retail
opens,
whereas
the
consumption
areas
you
have
a
little
bit
of
more
time.
If
you
want
it,
you
don't
have
to
use
it,
but
we
just
don't
even
know
what
the
state's
going
to
put
out
yet.
O
So
I
guess,
if
you
were
to
identify
locations
in
which
consumption
were
to
be
allowed,
you
just
won't
necessarily
know
what
those
other
rules
are
going
to
be
and
we
can't
regulate.
You
know
general
operations.
We
can
do
a
time
place
matter,
so
that
would
be
my
input
on
that,
but
you
could
you
could
start
deciding
and
these
roles
as
well
now,
if
you
wanted
to.
A
Okay,
so
we're
not
right
now
looking
at,
we
have
there's
no
recommendation
about
consumption
areas,
but
we
are
again,
as
we've
discussed
talking
about
retailers
based
on
what
we
currently
where
we
currently
allow
retailers
of
other
businesses.
F
A
All
right,
I
wasn't
sure,
and
I
think
you
said
that
we
ultimately
unless
I
guess
the
state
prohibits
us,
we
ultimately
can
decide
whether
we
want
consumption
areas
or
not
down
the
road.
So
we
could
say
we
don't
want
consumption
areas
in
in
the
city
of
santa
fe.
A
Okay,
I
think
that's
important
the
heat
maps
can
we
get
those
I
mean.
I
know
you
said
and
because
of
the
short-term
rental
legislation
we
certainly
I've
certainly
worked
with
the
gis
thing
and
looking
at
ranges
of
various
sizes
and
seeing
what
impact
that
has
and
it's
very
instructive
in
term
in
terms
of
understanding
the
impact
of
the
policy
or
the
rule
that
we
would
be
enacting.
A
Is
it
possible
just
to
give
us
you
know?
Maybe,
while
we
wait
for
whatever
you
have
to
do
to
to
give
access
to
the
gis
system
itself,
but
is
it
possible
to
get
just
like
hard
copies
of
some
of
those
slides
that
you
showed
us
or
is
that?
Is
that
really
not
technologically
something
that
can
happen
or
is
it
just
also
like?
K
Cumbersome
madden
chair,
I
I
think
it
would.
It
actually
won't
be
very
helpful
if
we
try
to
print
these
heat
maps
because
it
gets
blurred,
we've
actually
created
pdfs
and
it
just
did
not
work.
Okay,.
A
Yeah-
and
I
think
you
know
the
other
issue
too-
is
that
it's
when
you
pull
out,
you
can't
really
see
where
I
mean
you
could
sort
of
see.
You
can't
see
the
street
level
detail
as
well.
You
can
see
general
area,
but
and
then
I
had.
M
Chair
romero
worth
yes,
you
might
be
able
to
do
some
screenshots
to
show
you
some
areas
before
you
get
access,
so
not
printing
them
out,
but
sending
them
via
email.
That
might
be
helpful.
A
K
I
do
think
that
the
one
exemption
for
that
would
be
that
if
the
city
adopts
land
use
regulations
in
terms
of
permitted
uses
in
zoning
districts
and
one
of
these
medicinal,
like
apothecaries,
for
example,
like
an
apothecary-
exists
in
a
zoning
district
that
allows
for
apothecaries,
but
it
won't
allow
in
the
new
zoning
ordinances
for
recreational,
then
we
wouldn't
issue
them
as
any
verification.
They
would
have
to
continue
to
operate
as
an
apothecary.
K
A
Okay,
but
I
I
guess
the
thing
is-
is
that
they
they
can
operate
now
medical,
but
they
might
not
be
able
to
operate
as
recreational
under
new
rules
if
the
distance,
if
they
violate
the
distance.
Unless
I
think
what
you're
telling
me
is
they'd
just
be
grandfathered
in,
is
legally
non-conforming
correct.
O
See
the
attorney
sherry
tara,
meroworth,
I
think
we're
gonna
have
a
bit
of
a
huddle
on
that
specific
issue
tomorrow.
I
think
the
one
that
noah
described
is
a
little
more
clean
cut
right.
It's
it's,
not
a
permitted
use
in
a
different
area
of
the
city
if
it
was
apothecary
in
an
area
that
we're
not
even
zoning
for
that
use.
O
I
want
to
understand
a
little
bit
more
about
the
intent
of
producers
in
areas
that
are
zoned
for
retail,
for
for
non-medical
retail,
for
recreational
retail.
I
I'm
not
I'm
a
little
bit
unclear
on
the
intent
just
based
on
some
conversations
that
just
happened
tonight.
So
I
think
we
need
to
clarify
that
and
we
might
have
a
choice
there,
but
I'm
not
sure
okay.
A
All
right,
so
that's
a
what
do
you
say
a
outstanding
issue,
so
going
back
to
canopy
size
completely
understand
that
I
think
what
the
the
change
that
you
made
city
attorney
mccherry
about
you
know
they
didn't
differentiate,
created
a
bunch
of
canopy
sizes,
but
then
all
the
all
the
places
where
they
were
were
all
the
same.
But
I
guess
if
we
were
to
look
at
canopy
sizes,
a
couple
questions
all
right,
one
I
I
think
noah
said
no.
K
A
K
Madam
chair,
the
policy
subcommittee
did
a
lot
of
work
on
this.
A
lot
of
research.
One
of
the
policy
subcommittee
members
actually
touched
base
with
a
family
friend
who
grows
produces
in
la,
and
that
was
kind
of
where
this
recommendation
stemmed
from
was
was
that
policy
subcommittee's,
basically
feedback
that
they
got
from
the
producer,
so
that
was
looked
at
and
recommended
by
one
subcommittee
member
and
then
the
rest
of
the
subcommittee
then
caught
on
to
it.
K
So
I
think
assistant
city
attorney
salazar
had
had
looked
at
a
few
different
regulations
in
relations
to
this
as
well,
and
I
would
defer
to
her
to
see
what
she
found.
M
Worth
I
did
not
do
extensive,
canopy
research,
so
what
I
did
do
is
I
looked
at
some
licensing
in
california
to
see
whether
they
were
differentiating
in
their
licenses
on
canopy
size,
and
what
I
found
was
that
they
had
a
micro
producer
and
a
cannabis
producer,
and
once
you
triggered
the
cannabis
producer,
the
zoning
regulations
then
had
canopy
size.
But
I
didn't
investigate
further
in
each
jurisdiction
as
to
how
that
was
applied
in
their
zoning
code.
M
A
Okay
and
that's
sort
of
what
what's
happening
here
right,
I
think
you
you've
you've
stated
that
in
earlier
questioning,
yes
chair,
okay,
so
and
I
guess
and
city
attorney
mccherry,
you
said
we
could
differentiate
based
on
canopy
size,
but
I
guess
that
sort
of
begs
the
question:
if
we
wanted
to
what
would
be
the
criteria
and
and
what
would
we
base
our
determination
on
in
terms
of
different
rules
for
different
cannabis
sizes,
and
that
to
me
is
like
a
level
of
expertise
that
I'm
not
sure
we
have,
and
I
don't
know
that
staff
is
even
recommending
that
we
I
mean
yeah,
we
can
do
it,
but
what?
A
O
Sure
merworth,
I
think
that
there
were
particular
concerns.
We
could
do
factual
research
on
them,
but
I
think
we
don't
necessarily
know
you
know
what
what
would
be
the
policy
goal
in
order
to
do
that
research
in
order
to
identify
that.
So
I
I
I
wasn't
part
of
those
discussions,
so
I
don't
know
if
there
were
any
particular
policy
goals,
but.
K
Okay,
yeah,
I'm
sure
I
don't
I'm
not
necessarily
sure
that
there
was
necessarily
thought
about
policy
goals
other
than
trying
to
regulate
the
size
right.
Just
like
you
know,
just
the
size
was
the
goal.
I
think
really
in
this
because
you
could
grow
the
different
levels
of
licenses
for
producers,
give
you
a
number
of
plants,
but
that
could
be
spread
out
over
a
very
large
distance.
I
think
the
goal
of
this
was
to
say:
look.
You
got
this
much
space.
K
This
is
the
amount
of
area
you're
allowed
to
grow
in
you
can
grow
as
many
plants
as
you
want
within
this
area.
I
think
so.
It
really
had
to
do
with
sizing
was
kind
of
the
goal
there
and,
like
I
said,
the
policy
subcommittee.
K
You
know
they
thought,
or
at
least
one
of
the
subcommittee
members
who
came
up
with
the
canopy
issue,
said
that
when
they
talked
to
their
person
in
la
that
that
person
kind
of
laughed
at
the
way
that
that
new
mexico
was
adopting
regulations
based
on
mature
plants
rather
than
size
as
a
canopy,
and
so
then
that
policy
something
member
looked
at
looked
more
into
it.
So
that
was
that's
where
I
think
it
came
from,
and.
A
Yeah,
it's
a
little
concerning
to
me
that
that
to
me
seems
a
little
anecdotal.
We've
got
one
person
in
the
state
of
california
making
this
suggestion.
I
mean,
I
guess
I'd,
be
more
curious.
A
Let's
see
up
to
religious
institutions,
so
with
our
liquor
laws
do
we
do
we
talk
about
religious
institutions
or
churches?
I
can't
remember.
O
Institutions,
no,
it's
churches.
I
looked
it's
churches
and
it's
not
a
defined
term
in
our
code,
which
is
kind
of
interesting.
I
was
a
little
surprised
about
that,
so
I
did
look
into
that
and
it's
for
waivers.
So
I
did
look.
I've
been
looking
at
that
a
little
bit
while
we've
been
talking.
So
if
you
want
to
sell
within
300
feet
of
a
church
or
school,
then
you
can
seek
a
waiver
from
the
general
prohibition
right
now.
O
That's
not
a
construct
being
suggested
here
and
in
that
area
of
the
law
you
could
seek
the
waiver
and
if
you
don't
get
a
waiver,
you
could
do
an
appeal.
So
that's
not
not
the
construct
being
proposed.
It
would
just
be
a
density
restriction
point
blank.
O
Okay,
that
also
would
be
for
consumption
generally
right
so
for
consumption
of
liquor
during
an
event
and-
and
so
that
would
also
maybe
that
would
be
the
type
of
thing
we'd
look
at
if
we
start
looking
at
consumption
areas.
A
Yeah,
so
I'm
a
little
worried
about
religious
institutions
and
I
think
it
was
councilwoman
via
rael
that
touched
on
this
a
little
bit
about.
I
mean
that's
a
pretty
broad
brush
and
we
may
not
have
any
idea
what
the
implications
of
that
are
churches.
You
know,
I
think
we
know
a
church
and
you
know
we.
We
would
maybe
understand
that,
but
and-
and
then
I
guess
I
was
confused
too
noah.
A
You
said
something
in
response
to
counselor
rivera
about
when,
when
he
was
talking
about
waivers
and
whether
we
could
do
that
and
you,
you
said
something
about
it's
a
hard,
no
on
the
distance
to
a
religious
institution,
and
I
didn't
quite
unders.
If
you
can
maybe
go
back
and
talk
about
that,
a
little
more.
K
Thank
you,
I'm
sure.
I
think
the
context
that
that
was
coming
in
is
there.
Are
there
any
waivers
or
variances
to
to
these
regulations,
if
I
recall
correctly,
and
to
the
regulations
that
we
that
the
zoning
code
would
have
for
for
commercial
cannabis
stem
establishments
like?
K
Would
there
be
any
kind
of
special
exceptions
or
waivers
or
variances
to
those,
and-
and
I
felt
that
since
it's
a
type
of
use
and
the
use
is
stipulated,
here's
how
you
can
have
the
use
in
the
regulatory
framework
for
the
use
that
there
wouldn't
be
any
type
of
variances
to
that
would
be
permit
variances,
wouldn't
be
permitted
or
heard
to
them,
especially
with
the
distance
regulation
that
the
state's
putting
in
place.
K
I
don't
think
unless
the
state
offers
any
relief
to
that
distance,
that
the
city
would
be
able
to
have
relief
to
the
distances
in
terms
of
religious.
I'm
sorry,
daycares.
A
O
A
O
A
K
A
So
that
isn't
the
way
other
cities
say
in
colorado
or
california,
or
some
some
of
these
states
that
have
more
experience,
cities
that
have
more
experience
with
this.
That's
not
the
point
of
measurement.
They
use
what
what?
What
would
they
use
is
their
standard.
K
Madam
chair,
I'm
not
sure
what
other
cities
would
use
on
this
on
this
exact
criteria,
but
director
clue
has
his
mic
unmuted.
So
I
thought
maybe
he
had
some
some
feedback
on
that
because
he
did
help
with
this
as
well.
P
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
P
I
apologize
so
the
the
challenges
that
I
think
noah
mentioned
earlier.
Is
you
know
with
using
the
you
know,
similar
to
the
str
density?
You
know
the
pro
the
proximity
rule
that
we
have
in
place
using
the
the
property
line
is
that
you
know
the
property
lines
vary.
You
know
wildly
across
the
city,
you
know
they're
very
dense,
you
know
downtown
and
then
you
know,
for
example,
the
you
know
the
santa
fe
place
mall
as
a
giant
property
line.
P
So
you
know
if
we
use
property
lines,
we
can
only
have
one.
You
know
retail
establishment
within
that
within
the
mall,
so
we
were
struggling.
You
know
all
we,
the
every
everyone
involves
struggling
on
how
to
you
know,
grapple
with
that.
It
came
up
as
a
suggestion
that
we
should,
you
know,
reconsider
it
by
commissioner
hogan
at
the
planning
commission
meeting
where
this
was
approved,
and
so
we
were,
I
think,
to
your
point.
We
may
want
to
research
that
further,
but
the
reasonable
solution.
P
I
think
one
reasonable
solution
that
we
came
up
with
was
to
use
the
establishment
entrance
because
that
you
know
that
is
the
entrance
to
the
you
know.
To
the
accessing
the
the
activity
and
so
measuring
from
interest
entrance
would
make
sense
as
a
as
a
you
know,
a
factor
that
would
allow
us
to
you
know
reasonably
set
that
proximity
how
we
actually
measure
it.
P
I
agree
you
know,
I
know
we
were
talking
about
this
earlier
in
this
meeting,
how
we
actually
determine
that
is,
you
know
still,
hopefully
it
can
be
a
you
know,
a
policy
decision,
but
we
are
working
with
gis
to
you,
know,
fine-tune
how
that's
actually
measured.
Hopefully
it
will
be
from
the
center
point
of
the
my
understanding
and
how
I,
how
I
think
it
could
you
know
reasonably
be
accomplished,
is
from
the
center
point
of
the
main
entrance
as
counselor
kassad
mentioned
earlier.
P
P
You
know
possibly
in
the
interior,
for
example,
in
the
interior
of
a
mall
or
the
interior
of
like
plasmacotter,
for
example,
you're,
actually
determining
that
point
in
space
and
then
determining
the
other
point
of
space
and
then
measuring
it
in
gis.
I
think
that's
the
only
fair
and
accurate
way
that
it
can
be
done,
so
it
would
involve
probably
a
two-step
process
where
you
actually
determine
that
point
in
space
physically
and
then
transpose
it
into
gis
and
then
take
the
measurement
and
determine
if
it's
400
feet
or
less.
A
So
the
only
thing
that
concerns
me
about
that
is
and
sort
of
you
know.
We
learned
this
through
the
short-term
rental
discussion.
You
know
we
had
adjacent
as
as
the
you
know,
if
you
were
adjacent,
then
you
couldn't
have
one
and
we
had
trouble
interpreting
that
now.
It
seems
to
me
that
if
you're,
if
you're
measuring
pri
and
we're
not
linear
right,
this
wouldn't
be
a
linear
measurement.
It's
not
really
simple:
to
go
from
the
door
to
one
place
to
the
door.
A
To
the
other
I
mean
you
could
take
various
paths
and
probably
come
up
with
different
measurements.
Therefore
different
interpretations
about
whether
you're
you
know
far
enough
apart
or
not-
and
so
I
just
I
wonder,
did
did
the
subcommittee
or
the
planning
commission
look
at
what
we
did
with
short-term
rentals,
where
we're
looking
at
a
radius
right.
So
maybe
it's
within
a
certain
radius
rather
than
the
distance
from
front
door
to
front
door.
A
P
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
the
the
in
the
the
str
or
this
it's
actually
a
property
offset
it's
not
a
radius.
So
it's
a
it's
a
200
foot
offset.
Excuse
me
50
foot
offset
from
the
from
the
property
line.
However,
that's
configured
in
this
scenario,
I
I
think
the
only
way
that
it
would
work
is
to
use
the
diameter
from
from
entrance
to
entrance.
P
You
know,
yes,
we
could
run
a
tape
along
the
shortest
path
of
access,
but
I
think
that
would
you
know
to
counselor
cassettes
point
I
think
that
would
be
you
know
it
would
be
difficult.
It
would
be.
You
know,
right
for
people
to
you
know,
contest
that,
so
I
I
think
it
would
be,
it
would
need
to
reside
in
gis
and
it
would
need
to
be
a
diameter
measurement
or
a
linear.
You
know
in
essence
a
diameter,
but
a
straight
line
from
entrance
to
entrance.
A
Yeah,
I
don't
know
I
I
I'd
like
to
know
what
other
cities
and
states
that
have
more
experience
have
done.
This
concerns
me
a
little
bit.
A
Yeah,
okay,
so
councilor
rivera's
questions
about
fences
and
razor
wire,
and
I
mean
it's
also
a
little
bit
concerning
to
me
whether
that's
what
we
have
if
this
is
gonna
now
become
something
that
needs
to
happen.
A
A
I
guess
that's
another
outstanding
question
and
I
would
look
to
again
the
experience
of
other
places.
Other
cities
in
states
with
more
experience
in
this
area,
or
is
it
you
know?
Are
we
comfortable
with
it's
an
outstanding
question
for
me?
Are
we
out
what
are
the
pros
and
cons
of
letting
in
that
be
the
public
works,
director's
discretion
or
the
public
or
the
land
use
director's
discretion?
P
Well,
if
I
may,
madam
chair,
so
since
I
I
I'm
not
I'm
unfamiliar
with
the
ordinance
that
noah's
mentioning,
he
has,
you
know
much
more
insight
into
that
than
I
do.
But
I
I
agree
that
it's
it
sounds
like
it's
an
oddity
and
I
don't
know
where
it
came
from
for
the
public
works
director
to
make
that
approval.
It
seems
like
it
should
reside
in
the
language
department
and
it
seems
like
we.
You
know
we
may
want
to
reconsider
that
section
of
the
code
with
with
this.
A
A
What
do
we
want
it
to
look
like
what's
enough
razor
wire
to
to
provide
the
protection,
that's
necessary?
You
know.
A
Without
getting
something,
that's
just
awful,
I
don't
know
anyway,
that's
an
outstanding
question
for
me.
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
the
cannabis
disposal
question
as
well.
A
I
can't
remember
where
I
asked
I
know
what
well
I
know
I
asked
the
question
when
there
was
a
presentation
to
the
governing
body,
but
there
was
also
a
webinar
where
the
superintendent
of
the
new
mexico
regulation
and
licensing
department
was
president
linda
trujillo,
and
she
did-
and
I
think
when
I
asked
the
question
initially,
I
was
concerned
because
a
constituent
of
mine
is
very
concerned
about
dumpster,
diving
and
I
and
I
think
this-
the
regulations
that
are
coming
around
how
you
dispose
of
the
waste
from
these
facilities,
you
know,
is
clearly
something
of
concern
in
the
industry
and
and
for
the
public
safety,
and
so
I
just
want
to
confirm
that
you
know
she
did
talk
about
having
to
grind
it
down
and
there
were
like
there
was.
A
I
mean
you
have
to
basically
grind
it
into
nothing
and
then
mix
it
with
something
like
dirt,
so
that
there's
no
way
it
has
any
value
when
it's
disposed
of,
I
think
the
selling
of
compost
is
sort
of
an
interesting
idea.
I
don't
know
whether
the
state
has
thought
about
that.
I
mean
they
did
spend
an
awful
lot
of
time,
both
in
making
the
law
and
then
making
the
regulations.
A
So
I'd
be
curious
if
that
is
been
addressed
somewhere
and
and
or
whether
the
way
it's
disposed
of
doesn't
really
create
any
compost,
because
I
think
you
do
have
to
mix
it
again
with
a
substance
like
dirt,
so
I
don't
know
what
kind
of
value
then
it
has
as
compost,
but
I'm
not
a
gardener,
so
I
don't
know,
but
that's
an
outstanding
question
all
right.
So
those
are,
I
think,
the
questions
I
had
for
now.
A
If
there
are
no
other
questions
from
the
committee,
I
think
we
do
understand
that
there's
some
things
that
have
come
up
here
tonight
that
are
gonna
require
more
thought
more
work
as
we
move
this
forward.
I
think
we
are
under
a
a
time
crunch
to
get
this
done,
so
I
would
like
to
get
a
motion
from
the
committee.
I
I
think
we
need
to
to
move
this
on
and
wonder
what
the
committee
would
like
to
do.
M
D
Yeah,
so
I
imagine
there
are
going
to
be
quite
a
bit
of
amendments
to
this,
and
this
still
has
to
go
to
finance
public
works
and
then,
finally,
to
the
governing
body
with
a
public
hearing.
Could
those
amendments
be
incorporated
into
it
if
they're
legally
acceptable
be
incorporated
into
the
document
as
it
goes
through
the
process?
So
when
we
get
to
the
end
stage,
we're
not
dealing
with
amendments
from
all
eight
of
us,
potentially
nine
of
us
with
regards
to
how
this
moves
forward.
O
The
one
amendment
I've
heard
about
tonight
that
might
be
an
issue
with
regard
to
the
caption
is
if
the
razer
wire
is
addressed
in
a
totally
different
chapter,
then
that
would
be
a
different
section
which
we
could
absolutely
introduce
another
piece
of
legislation
and
address
that
separately.
But
if
we
added
that
to
this
one,
we
might
need
to
republish
the
caption.
O
L
Have
on
paper
I'm
just
trying
to
make
the.
D
A
I
think
the
red
line,
as
we've
seen
in
other
bills,
where
there
have
been
a
lot
of
amendments
and
some
complexity,
have
have
proven
very
useful.
D
Yeah
and
if
I
can
on
on
that
point,
jesse
in
the
past
has
done
amendments
color
coded
based
on
which
counselors
made
the
amendments,
and
that's
been
extremely
helpful.
So
in
something
like
this,
that
would
be
fantastic.
A
Okay,
what's
the
pleasure
of
the
committee.
D
Has
been
a
pretty
good
process,
I
think
it's
a
pretty
good
bill.
That's
been
moving
forward
so
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve.
A
Is
there
a
second
second?
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
from
councillor
rivera
second
from
councilwoman
villarreal,
and
is
there
discussion
I
I.
E
Just
wanna,
when
I
have
more
brain
power,
I
would
like
to
understand
better
how
we
can
strengthen
the
canopy
piece,
so
it
makes
sense
to
staff
it
makes
sense
to
the
general
public.
I
don't
know.
I
think
that
to
me
I
want
to
also
make
sure
the
general
public
understands
it,
because
our
code
is
hard
enough
to
understand
so
just
trying
to
simplify
things.
So
I
guess
in
the
next
iteration
finance
can
staff
provide
a
recommendation
for
that
piece.
E
I'm
not
sure.
Let
me
I
have
to
think
about
this
and
have
some
fuel
in
me.
I'm
super
hungry
right
now
so
yeah.
I
guess
I'll
have
to
get
back
to
you
about
that.
I
just
don't.
I
just
agree
with
chair
rometa
worth
that.
E
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
I
kind
so
I
I
hear
a
counselor
via
councilwoman
via
reales
kind
of
question,
and
almost
suggestion
this
as
we've
had
this
conversation
tonight.
I
wasn't
sure
exactly
what
the
motion
would
look
like
with
a
bunch
of
amendments
and
so
providing
clarity
to
staff
would
be
super
helpful
because,
but
we
could
produce.
K
There
was
a
piece
there
was
a
legislation
that
was
included
in
the
packet
as
an
attachment
to
the
cover
memo
that
showed
with
canopy
sizes
in
it,
and
it
had
a
canopy
definition,
canopy
area
definition,
and
that
was
what
the
planning
commission
and,
if,
if,
if
the
committee
chooses,
we
could
put
that
back
in
and
amend,
amend
the
the
table
or,
but
we
do
have
that
ready
to
go,
but
I'm
kind
of
having
a
hard
time
by
finance
committee.
K
Would
we
like
to
see
the
same
legislation
in
its
current
form
as
proposed
tonight
with
all
these
questions
like
best
practices
to
reduce
greenhouse
gases,
religious
institutions
and
then
the
canopy
piece
is?
Is
that
something
that
would
want
to
be
heard
at
finance
committee
for
the
next
one
and
city
attorney?
Mick?
Sherry
is
kind
of
chiming
in
there
sorry
yeah.
O
Chair
romeroworth
noah,
I
think
we'll
follow
our
normal
practice,
which
is
if
counselors
want
to
introduce
amendments.
So
counselor
garcia
has
asked
us
to
draft
an
amendment
for
him.
So
we'll
prepare
that
for
his
review.
I
have
to
sign
on
legal
sufficiency
for
the
amendments
as
well.
So
just
adding
back
things
that
were
in
the
prior
version
doesn't
doesn't
work
because
that
just
adds
words
without
a
policy
associated
with
them.
So
if
someone
would
like
to
designate
what
we
do
with
canopy
size,
then
we
can
make
that
a
proposed
amendment.
E
A
Okay,
anything
else.
A
Yeah,
I'm
just
waiting
for
councilwoman
vrl,
your
anything
else.
Otherwise,
I'm
going
to
councilwoman
cassid
all
right,
councilwoman,
cassid.
N
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Was
this
this
canopy
piece?
Was
it
discussed
with
anybody
at
the
state
as
to
why?
Because
from
all
this
discussion,
my
understanding
is
that
in
california,
colorado
sounds
like
canopy
size
was
baked
into
their
state
legislation,
and
that's
why
the
local
municipalities
counties
included
that
in
there
was
there
a
discussion
that
occurred
with
people
at
the
state
as
to
why
they
did
not
consider
a
canopy
size,
for
it
was
just
how
they
developed
their
licensing.
K
I'm
chair,
counselor
cassette.
There
was
conversations
that,
but
nothing
there
was
conversations
from
policy
subcommittee
members
who
said
they
talked
to
somebody
at
the
state
about
canopy
definitions.
We
we
asked
for
for
that
to
be
put
into
the
form
of
paper
that
shows
like
we
could
see
an
email
saying.
Yes,
this
is
what
you
said
that
you
heard
from
that
person
or
no,
you
didn't
hear
that
and
we
never
that
was
never
produced.
So
the
short
answer
is,
I
personally
did
not
have
any
conversations
with
the
state.
K
I
think
that
andrea
reached
out
to
the
state
about
some
different
things.
I
don't
know
if
this
was
particularly
discussed
at
the
state
level
or
with
the
state
representatives
under
that.
M
Chairwoman
counselor,
no,
so
we
did
not
address
canopy.
I
know
that
a
subcommittee
member
did
reach
out
to
talk
about
canopy
and
I
think
the
designation
was
we're
regulating
plants
on
the
licensing
level,
but
zoning
could
be
tied
to
canopy.
One
thing:
that's
important
to
note
is
that
they
did
have
a
canopy
definition
in
their
administrative
code
rules,
but
in
the
end,
when
they
finalized
those
rules,
they
removed
all
mention
of
canopy.
So
that
is
something
that
was
completely
taken
out.
M
Our
definition
that
we
incorporated
that
could
be
used
was
the
previous
definition
as
defined
by
the
state
when
they
had
it
in
their
definitions,
we
could
do
some
research
and
and
look
into
different
jurisdictions.
You
know
the
the
rld
website
for
adult
cannabis
usage
does
have
a
lot
of
different
zoning
codes
and
regulations
in
it,
and
so
we
can
peruse
that
to
look
at
canopy
definitions
and
see
how
those
things
differ.
M
As
everyone's
talked
about
you
know,
it
could
be
five
different
stories
of
growing
racks.
It
could
be
an
entire
flat
area
of
growing,
so
measuring
canopy
as
to
growing
area,
might
make
more
sense
than
as
to
immature
versus
mature
plants,
but
does
how?
How
do
you
define
that
so
that
it's
easy
and
applicable
for
our
land
use
staff
to
issue
a
permit
and
a
letter?
And
how
do
we
also
enforce
that
later
down
the
line
if
we
get
too
specific
with
a
canopy
designation?
N
Yeah,
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure,
I'm
still
I'm
processing
so,
okay,
I
guess
I'll
continue
to
process.
I
I
know
how
to
reach
y'all
so
somewhere
else
on
emails
and
see
you
in
finance.
Thank
you.
N
A
If
there
are
no
other
there's
no
other
conversation
questions
are
we
not
seeing
anybody
waving
raising
a
hand?
So
if
we
could
get
a
vote
on
the
motion,
counselor
rivera.
B
A
Motion
all
right,
thank
you.
Everyone,
thanks
for
being
here
staff
and
for
all
the
questions
and
and
conversation
very
interesting
and
we'll
be
learning
more
and
as
we
move
this
along.
So
thanks
thanks
everybody
all
right.
We
don't
have
any
action
items.
We
do
not
have
an
executive
session.