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B
All
right
action.
Thank
you
at
501.
I
will
call
the
june
2nd
june
2nd
wow
meeting
of
the
quality
of
life
committee
to
order
and
if
we
could
get
a
roll
call,
jennifer
councillor
jamie
cassette.
D
B
I
am
here
we
have
a
full
deck.
If
we
do,
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
if
well.
Actually,
first,
are
there
changes
from
staff
to
the
agenda?
No
changes
tonight.
Madam
chair.
Okay,
changes
from
the
committee.
E
B
D
B
Yes,
terrific
on
to
approval
of
the
consent
agenda
are
there
items.
The
committee
would
like
to
hear
this
evening.
B
Another
roll
call:
we
have
a
motion
by
councilwoman
villarreal
second
from
councillor
rivera.
Did
I
get
that
right
and
if
we
get
a
roll
call
on
approval
of
the
consent
agenda,
as
amended.
E
E
B
Yes,
with
that,
we
will
move
to
the
approval
of
the
may
19th
2021
minutes.
Are
there
changes
to
the
minutes
from
staff?
None
from
staff?
Madam
chair,
any
from
the
committee?
Is
there
a
motion
move
to
approve?
Second,
we
have
a
motion
from
councilwoman
via
real
and
a
second
from
counselor
cassette.
D
D
B
Yes,
all
right
now
we
will
move
to
the
items
pulled
from
consent,
we'll
start
with
item
b,
a
resolution
establishing
an
operation
plan
for
bicentennial
pool
for
the
2021
season.
I
believe
director
wheeler
is
here.
Is
that
let's
see
is
she
here
and
well?
I
don't
see
director.
Wheeler
is
gino
ronaldo
here
I
think
he
is
yeah.
B
D
Thank
you,
madam
sharon.
Thank
you,
geno
peace
to
you
as
well
hope
all
is
well
with
you
quick
question.
When
this
was
heard
at
public
works
and
utilities,
I
had
requested
that
the
evaluation
for
the
pool
be
included
in
the
packet,
and
I
don't
I
don't
see
that
I
mean
I.
I
don't
feel
I
could
make
an
appropriate
decision
on
this
matter
without
the
evaluation
that
we
spoke
about
in
regards
to
what
repairs
need
to
be
made,
proposed
costs,
etc.
A
Counselor
I
I
that
we
had
communicated
with
regina
about
getting
the
information.
I
don't
know
if
you
had
any
more
information
kiera,
I
know
you're
there.
I
I
don't
have
that
information.
Since
I
I
wasn't
the
on
the
site,
assessment
and
the
site,
you
know
the.
I
guess
you
would
say
the
destruction
that
portion
of
it,
but.
H
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much.
I
sorry
I
wasn't
here.
I
I
looked
at
the
item
specifically
listed
after
it
was
postponed
from
finance
and
I
didn't
see
quality
of
life
listed
so
I
didn't
know
it
was
going
to
this
committee,
but
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
the
question
I'm
councilor
garcia.
We
actually
don't
have.
I
think
I
mentioned
to
you
before
that
we
have
a
contractor
working
on
the
extensive
quote
for
the
full
repairs
of
the
pool
and
that
won't
be
available
for
a
few
more
weeks.
H
So
all
we
know
right
now
is
what
we've
done
and
what
we
believe
needs
to
be
done,
but
we
don't
have
a
solid
quote
for
the
full
repairs.
We
believe
it's
pretty
darn
close
to
a
full
rebuild,
probably
you
know
million
dollar
plus
or
minus
a
million
or
something,
but
we
just
don't
have
that
information.
Yet.
D
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
director
wheeler.
I
really
appreciate
the
clarification
and
I
think
the
the
question
kind
of
arose
around.
How
do
we
are
we
sure
that
the
leakage
that
happened
last
summer-
and
I'm
sure,
probably
you
know
years
before-
that
it
just
was
never
kind
of
noticed
but
the
impact,
and
how
are
we
sure
that
there's
not
a
sinkhole
any
of
those
other
type
of
safety
issues,
and
I
couldn't
remember
if
it
was
you
or
mr
rinaldi
who
had
said
well.
D
There's
we've
we've
looked
into
that
there
was
an
evaluation
that
that
said,
there
was
nothing
of
the
sort.
So
that's
the
evaluation,
I'm
more
so
interested
in
and
also
in
conjunction
with
the
evaluation,
that's
currently
being
done,
but
the
the
one
that
was
spoken
about
that
had
been
conducted
in
the
past.
H
Yes,
thank
you,
chairperson
and
I'm
councillor
garcia.
I
we
did
have
contractors
in
the
pool,
assess
the
possibility
of
any
safety
risks
or
any
structural
risks
to
the
pool,
and
they
felt
that
their
in
their
professional
opinion
that
there
were
no
safety
risks
and
there
was
no
risk
to
the
structure
of
the
pool
from
the
leakage.
D
H
Thank
you,
I'm
chairperson
and
I'm
council
garcia.
I
don't
think
that
we'll
be
getting
that
in
writing.
The
pool
people
were
very
tentative
about
being
involved
in
putting
their
licenses
on
the
line
with
respect
to
any
decisions
they
were
making.
They
weren't
able
to
dig
up
fully
around
the
pool
or
we
didn't
allow
them
to
make
a
big
punch,
a
hole
in
the
bottom
of
it
or
anything
like
that,
but
that
was
their
assessment
that
they
shared
with
us.
So
it
isn't
in
writing.
D
Okay,
I
don't
know
how
comfortable
am
I.
I
am
then,
with
that,
given
that
they're
not
willing
to
put
their
their
their
license
on
the
line,
and
we
can't
then
confirm
it
in
in
essence,
it's
kind
of
hearsay,
because
we
can't
justify
it
and
I
think
that's
what
we
need
to
ensure
and
coupled
with
the
amount
it's
going
to
cost
to
potentially
repair
it,
but
the
thorough
extensive
review
to
ensure
that
the
long-term
impact
by
the
seepage.
D
D
D
Okay,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
with
that
I'm
going
to
make
the
same
recommendation
that
we
pass
it
to
governing
body
with
no
recommendation
so
I'll
make
that
motion.
Madam
chair.
B
All
right
all
right,
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second,
but
we
still
have
more
conversation.
Counselor
garcia
did
you
have
any
other
questions.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Regina,
do
we
you
know
in
just
an
approximation?
Do
we
know
how
much
water
is
leaking
from
bicentennial
pool,
monthly
or
daily.
H
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Yes,
I
believe
it's
in
the
memo
and
I
believe
it's
a
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
gallons
a
month
approximately
and
that's
from
measuring
last
year's
water
use
at
the
at
the
meter
as
and
subtracting
for
average
evaporation.
So
the
water
team
helped
us
evaluate
that
from
the
water
meter.
Data.
I
B
We
do
counselor
have
christine
chavez
from
the
water
conservation
office
is
somewhere
here
if
she
had
more
information
than
you
wanted
to
hear
from
that,
because
they
she's
the
one
that
it's
her
office.
That
did
that
assessment.
Is
that
correct
director
wheeler
actually.
H
Jesse
roach
himself
helped
us
evaluate
the
data.
I
think.
B
H
B
Okay,
I
know
she's
listening.
I
don't
see
her
so
we'll
see
if
she
and
we'll
see
if
she
joins
and
if
she
doesn't
join
I'll
assume
she
doesn't
have
any
other
information
council
rivera
back
to
you.
Sorry.
I
Oh,
that's,
okay!
If
she
does
come
on,
they
did
have
some
questions
for
her
regarding
the
drought
and
how
long
we
thought
that
that
might
continue
to
go
on
if
she
had
any
of
that
information.
But
really
I
won't
be
at
the
wednesday
council
meeting.
So
I'm
just
going
to
give
my
recommendation
now
and
I
know
it's
moving
on,
but
with
the
amount
of
leakage
that
it
has
and
the.
I
Really
the
not
getting
as
much
use
as
a
pool
like
salvador
perez
does
that
can
house
more
people
and
have
more
as
a
larger
pool
and
can
probably
be
more
useful
to
the
overall
community,
the
drought
situation
that
we're
still
in
you
know.
I
know
this
is
a
resolution
establishing
an
operational
plan,
but
my
recommendation
is
that
we
close
it
down
for
this
summer
and
then
that
we
do
the
repairs
before
next
summer
and
we
get
ready
for
next
summer.
I
So
I'll,
just
let
that
be
known
now,
and
you
know
that
that's
my
take
on
it.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
B
Thank
you,
counselor
and
christine
chavez
is
we're
sending
her
the
meeting
link
right
now,
so
she
should
be
available
if
you
want
to
circle
back
when
she
joins
counselor
cassette.
I
believe
you
have
your
hand
up
next.
J
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair.
You
know,
and
I
think
that
some
of
these
questions,
regina
you
had
already
mentioned
that
we're
waiting
for
the
larger
quote
from
the
contractor,
and
I
had
asked
some
of
these
at
public
works,
and
I
think
one
of
my
my
biggest
questions
was:
if
we
put
off
the
repairs
until
the
end
of
the
summer,
when
do
they
cost
more
and
two?
Does
it
hurt
our
ability
to
be
open
in
time
for
summer
2022?
H
Thank
you
for
the
question.
I
think
that
you
know
we
should
have
the
quote
in
a
few
weeks.
We
don't
actually
have
the
million
dollars
to
fix
it,
so
we
have
to
get
the
money
that
may,
and
it
may
be
more
than
that
I
mean
I'm
just
using
that
sort
of
as
a
round
number.
H
You
know
one
of
the
ways
that
we
might
think
about
funding
that
is
the
drt
bond.
We're
planning
to
do
this
fall.
I
think
we're
getting
the
timeline
together
for
that.
That's
a
really
likely
place
to
fund
that
kind
of
big
repair.
So
we
wouldn't
have
that
money
until
you
know
october
or
november
anyway.
H
So
you
know
on,
I
think,
until
we
get
the
full
quote
and
the
funding
for
the
full
repair
leaving
the
pool
operating
would
not
delay
the
repairs.
I
also
would
say
that
we
can't
promise
it'll
be
ready
by
next
year,
although
obviously
we
would
work
really
hard
to
do
whatever
we
could
during
the
building
season
this
year,
what
we
could
do
in
the
winter
and
then
what
we
could
do
in
the
building
early
building
season
next
year
to
get
ready
for
memorial
day
opening.
J
J
You
know,
I
don't
have
a
breadth
of
knowledge
about
pool
construction,
and
I
would
be
able
to
provide
this
information,
but
you
know:
is
there
a
world
in
which
it
is
more
fiscally
responsible,
better
service
to
the
community
if
we
are
looking
at
building
a
pool
elsewhere,
looking
at
other
sites
and
options,
as
opposed
to
trying
to
repair
bicentennial.
H
I
think
I'd
leave
that
question
to
the
recreation
department.
It's
real,
I
think,
but
I
think
you
know
when
you
look
at
a
major
repair
like
this.
I
think
that
is
an
important
thing
to
ask
ourselves
would
is
it
in
the
right
place?
Is
this?
Where
we
invest,
is
it
you
know
worth
the
investment?
That
seems
like
a
really
responsible
line
of
questioning
to
undertake.
G
Adam
chair,
counselor
cassette,
if
I
may,
director
and
aldi-
and
I
are
looking
at
a
plan
for
for
community
services
and
recreation,
a
strategic
plan
in
fiscal
year
coming
up,
and
so
that
may
be
something
we
can
explore
within
that
plan
around.
G
You
know
the
demographics
of
the
city,
the
use
of
the
patterns
of
use
and
where
our
investment
makes
best
sense
so
that
we
best
serve
the
community
as
a
whole,
which
is
not
to
say
we
shouldn't
potentially
have
a
site
there,
but
hopefully
we
can
make
a
better
informed
decision
and
bring
that
back
to
you
all
to
make
a
better
informed
decision
about
that.
Longer
that
bigger
picture
approach,
hopefully
at
the
mid-year.
I
would
say
next
next
fiscal
year.
J
Thank
you
yeah,
and
I
I
appreciate
the
the
clarification
there.
It's
not
necessarily.
Where
else
do
we
put
it,
but
really
that
question?
Is
this
the
best
place
or
is
there
somewhere
else
that
we
should
be
looking,
and
then
I
had
mentioned
a
couple
questions
also
that
I
was
wondering
if
we
had
follow-up
on
one
was.
If
we
had
started
to
explore
some
partnerships
with
other
pools,
have
we
reached
out
to
country
club?
J
I
know
we
already
do
have
some
partnerships
that
we
are
working
on
with
the
community
college,
but
how
we
expand
some,
maybe
expand,
pool
access
this
summer.
There's
a
number
of
private
pools
that
I
don't.
I
heard
that
the
casa
solana
pool
had
spaces
which
they
haven't
in
years,
and
so
I'm
just
curious.
If
we've
started
to
explore
some
of
these
partnerships
with
private
pools
in
the
area
that
we
might
be
able
to
help
with
the
potential
you
know
lack
of
pool
space.
That
would
happen
if
we
do
choose
to
not
open
bicentennial.
B
Director
ronaldi,
you.
A
A
You
know
the
what's
their
capacity
what's
their
rules,
so
in
the
event
we
need
to
refer
people
over,
but
we
also
were
talking
to
them
about
the
the
other
shared
issue
which
is
lifeguards
and
and
how
we
work
together.
To
try
to
you
know
you
guys
got
some
extra
ones
from
a
class
you
did,
can
you
send
them
our
way
and
that
type
of
stuff,
so
that
communication?
That
line
of
communication
is.
G
We
also
spoke
specifically
to
the
community
college
pool
folks
about
their
capacity,
which
they
have.
They
have
a
lot
of
capacity
and
they
encouraged
us
to
let
everyone
know
that,
and
I
think
some
of
the
private
pools
are
also
in
that
position.
So
I
think
if,
once
this
decision
is
made,
we
can
begin
a
communication
plan.
J
Well,
and
then
do
you
know,
I
think
that
you
had
mentioned.
We
are
looking
at
opening
up
the
kiddie
pool
at
travis.
Am
I
am
I
remembering
that
correctly.
A
The
answer
is
yes,
the
issue
is
not
immediately
because
it's
it's
it's
in
line
to
be,
I
guess
repaired,
and
it
won't
happen
until
I
think
the
last
conversation
we
had
was
later
on
in
in
the
season
and
so
and
we're
planning
on
meeting.
A
I
know:
there's
been
a
transition
in
public
works
planning,
a
meeting
with
the
the
new
interim
sam
barnett
to
go
over
all
the
projects
that
we
have
and
try
to
maybe
narrow
down
some
of
the
specific
timelines
and
whatever
obstacles
are
in
the
way,
so
that
we
can
move
this
thing
forward
as
quickly
as
possible.
J
Okay,
yeah,
thank
you
and
I
know.
Of
course,
there
are
numerous
issues
to
balance
and
numerous
priorities
to
balance
when
we
look
at
the
timeline
for
the
repair,
so
I
would
not
say
you
know
make
this
at
the
very
very
top
of
the
priority
without
being
able
to
look
at
that
list
myself.
But
I
do
appreciate
you
meeting
with
sam
and
really
having
that
conversation
we
are
in
the
summer
season
and
people
are
really
hankering
to
get
out
there.
J
That
said,
it's
a
tough
decision,
but
I
believe
I
agree
with
councillor
rivera
that,
especially
during
a
drought.
It
would
just
not
be
responsible
of
us
to
open
up
a
pool.
That's
leaking
that
much
water
and
it's
it's
really
unfortunate
timing,
because
we
are
coming
off
of
this
incredibly
hard
year
where
everybody
is
really
eager
to
get
back
to
life
and
into
you
know,
activities
and
seeing
people.
But
I
think
that
it's
really
hard
to
make
the
argument
to
open
up
a
pool
that
would
leak
out.
J
You
know
400
000
gallons,
I
believe,
was
the
in
the
memo
of
about
how
much
water
we'd
be
losing
in
a
drought
year.
So
tough
choice,
but
I
I
do
think
that's
the
hard
responsible
decision
that
I
would
I
would
think
we
would
have
to
make.
So.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
being
here
and
for
answering
our
questions.
I
have
no
further
questions
at
the
moment.
B
Okay,
we
do
have
christine
chavez
in
on
the
panel
if
anybody
wants
to
direct
questions
to
her
and
councilwoman
vriel.
You
are
next
on
the
list.
Thank
you.
E
Madam
chair,
just
a
couple
follow-up
questions,
so
counselor
garcia
indicated
that
staff
didn't
detect
it
in
time,
but
from
my
understanding
they
did
detect
it
and
that's
how
they
were
able
to
determine
that
this
needed
to
be
taken
care
of.
So
I
guess
I
was
just
curious.
When
did
we
actually
detect
that
staff.
G
Madam
chair
councilwoman,
bieter
I'll,
take
a
stab
at
that
and
maybe
director
wheeler
can
tell
us
as
well.
I
think
that
the
director
rinaldi
help
me
if
I'm,
if
I'm
mistake,
but
the
the
recreation
staff
was
aware
of
some
leakage
when
the
pool
was
filled
previously
and
they
sort
of
dealt
with
it.
They
I
think
public
works
may
have
heard
about
that.
G
We
didn't
know
the
extent
of
it
when
we,
when
staff
raised
that
concern
with
me
in
january,
or
just
the
need
to
open
the
pool
and
get
on
it.
We
immediately
gina
wasn't
on
yet,
but
I
immediately
spoke
to
director
wheeler
and
her
public
work.
Staff
immediately
began
to
look
at
the
scope
of
the
problem
and
it
was
like
one
of
those
houses
that
they
call
an
onion
that
you
start
killing
away
and
it's
a
little
worse
than
you
feared.
E
It
yeah
I
mean
I'm.
I
I
believe
that
staff
was
what
was
keen
on
it
because
they
know
they
can
they
watch
it
they're
there.
So
I
don't
think
it's
not
a
matter
of
not
detecting
it.
I
think
it
was
more
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
I
mean
we
detected
it,
but
there
was
also
no
funding
to
be
able
to
at
that
time
to
be
able
to
fix
any
any.
E
G
A
When
staff
were,
I
guess
aware
that
something
wasn't
right,
that
they
began
trying
to
find
somebody
to
come
and
help
them
assess
if
there
was
indeed
a
problem
and
that
they
needed
to
what
they
probably
needed
to
do,
and
it
wasn't
until
january
that
they
were
able
to
identify
somebody
that
came
in,
and
that
was
immediate
immediately
when
things
transitioned,
I
I
don't
think
it
was
an
issue
of
oops.
We
have
a
problem,
let's
put
more
funding
towards
it
or
let's
get
get
it
repaired.
A
I
think
they
didn't
really
know
the
scope
and
they
you
can't
expect
them.
A
They're
familiar
with
pools,
they've
been
around
pools;
they
you
know
they
they,
they
know
them,
but
they're,
not
engineers
they're,
not
the
technical
experts
that
regina
was
able
to
bring
in
to
help
determine
where
we
were
and
and
the
extent
of
how
bad
this
was,
and
I
mean
it's
it's
it's
it's
kind
of,
maybe
I
shouldn't
say,
but
I
I
tend
to
do
this.
It's
we
had
a
leak,
but
the
problem
was
like
a
slow
leak.
A
A
I
know
because
I
graduated
in
1976
and
every
morning
I
wake
up
feeling
old,
but
no
I'm
not,
but
it's
it's
been
around
and
anybody
has
worked
on
facilities
in
in
their
career
like
I
have-
and
I
know,
regina
and
some
of
the
others
these
these
are
not
designed
to
last
and
when,
when
you
get
to
that
point,
you
gotta
start
dumping
in
money,
and
the
city
has
a
lot
of
buildings
like
that.
A
E
E
I
also
think
that
we
just
really
need
to
take
the
time
to
to
do
our
due
diligence.
My
my
guess
is
that
pool
needs
to
be
taken
out
and
I'm
not
talking
about
the
facility
itself
like
there's
still
a
lot
of
new
pieces,
the
pumps
there's
there's
different
infrastructures
in
there
that
I
I
still
think
is
usable.
It's
still
good,
it's
just
the
actual
physical
pool
from
what
I
understand
might
need
to
be
taken
out
and
replaced,
which
would
be
a
lot
of
money
so
and
I'm
not
actually.
E
Okay
with
that,
and
I
mean
I
think
my
colleague,
councilwoman
cassid
she
brought
up
well,
is
that
the
right
place?
E
I
don't
know
I
mean
I
I
feel
like
there's
a
lot
of
young
people
in
that
area
too,
in
district
one,
and
so
I
think
it
would
be
a
loss
if
we
didn't
have
a
pool
there.
E
I
don't
really
have
a
full
understanding
about
that,
but
I
do
think
that
we're
probably
going
to
find
more
that's
wrong
with
that,
and
so
my
opinion
is
to
not
have
this
major
leak
just
because
we
really
do
want
to
have
the
pool
open,
and
I
know
people
have
been
sending
us
emails
about
that
and
talking
to
to
us-
and
while
I
do
you
know,
am
sympathetic
about
that,
I
do
think
the
long-term
goal
is
to
make
it
a
functional
pool,
that's
safe
for
everybody
in
the
future,
so
I
wouldn't
want
us
to
be
losing
gallons
hundreds
of
thousand
gallons
of
water
just
because
we
want
to
keep
it
open
for
a
couple
months.
E
So
my
my
other
question,
though,
is
you
had
talked
about
the
kitty
pull
of
that
of
bicentennial
and
that
you
there
weren't
leaks
in
this
portion.
So
did
you
all
think
about?
Maybe
having
that
portion
open
solely
for
kiddos,
not
the
main
pool
we'd
cover
it,
but
then
we'd
have
that
other
small
kiddie
pool
open.
I'm
just
I'm
just
curious.
If
that's
a
possibility,
I
know
there's
staffing
issues,
but
what
do
you
all
think
have
you
thought
about
that
possibility.
G
A
Challenges
is
because
we're
we're
trying
to
schedule
for
three
pools.
You
know,
and
I
think
we
have
kind
of
moved
in
the
direction
of
of
opening
salvador
pettis.
Just
because
it's
it's
ready,
and
I
I
mean
I
look
at
the
kiddie
pool,
but
I
mean
you
have
to
go
through
the
gauntlet
of
all
the
other
stuff
to
get
to
that.
Could
we
make
it
safe?
I
I
haven't
really
given
it
a
lot
of
thought
on
how
we
might
be
able
to
do
this.
A
You
know
way
to
do
it,
but
I
I
couldn't
tell
you
as
as
a
as
a
novice,
but
you
know
I.
I
have
become
more
of
an
expert
on
this
stuff
and
I've
concluded
I'd
rather
drink.
My
I'd
rather
have
a
cocktail
by
the
pool
than
this
stuff
is
tough.
There's
a
lot
of
things,
a
lot
of
moving
parts
I
mean
and
a
lot
of
moving
parts
I
was.
I
was
surprised,
and
I
appreciate
everybody
that
has
a
hand
in
all
of
that
stuff.
It
really.
A
It
really
makes
a
you
know
you
you
think,
because
I
think
across
the
city
we
have
people
doing
all
kinds
of
stuff
and
we
just
think
of
what
they're
the
stuff
we
don't
realize.
All
that
takes
place
so
we'll
we'll
we'll
have
them.
Take
a
good
look
at
it
and
hopefully
get
you
an
answer
relatively
quickly.
E
Well,
I
mean
I,
I
it's
just
a
thought
and
I
know
there's
more
pieces
to
that.
Are
part
of
that
puzzle.
I
I
guess
if
we
decide
that
bc,
that
the
bicentennial
doesn't
make
sense
to
open
this
season,
I'd
really
like
us
to
make
sure
that
we
have
staffing
so
that
all
the
other
pools
are
open
to
the
point
where,
like
almost
to
where
we
used
to
be
the
days
the
times
I
mean
we've.
E
All
all
of
that
has
been
condensed
obviously
for
obvious
reasons,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
try
to
figure
out
to
see
how
how
much,
how
how
we
could
open
the
other
pools
so
that
they're
more
accessible
to
more
people
for
this
for
this
duration
until
we
figure
out
bicentennial.
E
So
I
don't
know
if
we
have
the
answer
to
that
yet.
But
I
know
staffing
is
a
big
piece.
It
would
help
if
we
could
get
people
hired
more
quickly.
I
mean
if
someone
applies
through
hr
and
it
takes
three
months.
They're
gonna
find
another
job
and
that's
exactly
what
happened.
Unfortunately,
we,
I
don't
think
we're
gonna
find
lifeguards
at
this
point.
If
we're
taking
so
long,
the
summer's
gonna
be
over
by
the
time
they're
told
whether
or
not
they
have
a
job.
E
So
I
think
that's
an
issue
and
then
private
pools
they
pay
better.
They
don't
do
drug
testing.
I
heard
today
that
the
casa
solano
pool
has
10
lifeguards
for
that
small
pool,
so,
of
course,
people
would
want
to
go
there.
So
I
don't
know-
and
just
there's
a
lot
of
factors
into
this.
I
think
staffing
is
the
the
biggest
issue.
Even
if
we
didn't
have
a
leak.
E
I
actually
think
staffing
would
still
be
an
issue,
so
I
just
want
to
know,
maybe
just
the
timeline
of
when
we
get
more
information
about
and
making
a
decision
or
in
making
a
decision
about
fixing
or
completely
redoing
the
pool
at
bicentennial.
Do
you
know,
do
you
have
an
idea
of
like
when
we
would
have
more
information.
H
Madam
chair
counselor,
via
real,
thank
you
for
the
question.
The
contractor's
been
working
on
a
quote
for
three
weeks
and
they
told
us
when
they
started.
It
would
take
them
six
weeks
to
give
us
the
quote
and
that
so
that'll
be
one
contractor's
quote
that
we'll
have
in
a
few
weeks.
So
a
month
from
now,
we
should
be
able
to
at
least
have
some
idea
of
what
the
scope
of
the
repairs
are
is.
If
that's
your
question.
E
Yeah-
and
I
think
even
if
we
just
did
the
say,
we
decided
to
have
it
open,
even
with
the
leaks
we
still
would
have
to
do.
Those
other
fixes
the
basic
ones
for
the
for
the
gutters
right,
so
that
still
would
take
time.
So
in
a
way,
I
actually
think
the
summer
summer
pool
time
would
actually
be
still
shortened
right.
It
wouldn't
actually
start
when
it
normally
does.
Obviously
it
started.
It
usually
starts
memorial
day
right
and
so.
H
We're
already
behind
but
go
ahead.
We
we
the
proposal
on
the
table
before
you
is
not
to
complete
any
additional
repairs.
H
E
We
need
to
be
cognizant
of
those
leaks.
It's
a
lot
of
water
and
still
I
just
yeah,
I
feel
like
there's
going
to
be
things
uncovered
as
we
continue.
So
that's
kind
of
where
I
stand.
I
know
we
had
emotion,
but
I'm
willing
to
change
it
if
we
need
to
because
it
sounds
like
a
lot
of
us
don't
feel
like
we
should
be
opening
the
pool,
so
I
yield
before
thanks
madam
chair.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
counselor
rivera.
Did
you
want
to
ask
questions
of
christine
chavez.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chairs,
and
she's
available
yes
and
made
the
effort
to
be
here.
Thank
you
christine.
You
do
a
lot
of
work
on
conservation
and
just
wanted
to
know
really
what
the
sense
is
on,
how
long
the
drought
may
potentially
last
are
we
looking
a
year
we
looking
just
a
couple
weeks
into
the
summer.
Do
you
have
any
sense
of
that.
K
Mr
chair,
can
you
hear
me?
Okay?
Yes,
madam
chair?
Oh
I'm
so
sorry,
madam
chair
councillor,
rivera.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
question.
It's
very
timely
because
today
we
just
launched
the
first
day
of
the
next
generation
water
summit,
and
hopefully
all
of
you
can
just
register
and
watch
some
of
the
sessions
that
came
out
today
and
throughout
the
rest
of
the
week,
but
today
was
focusing
on
drought,
and
so
we
had
climate
experts
and
a
lot
of
different
experts
on
drought.
K
Talking
about
the
fact
that
we
are
going
to
have
challenges
period
moving
forward,
this
isn't
a
short-term
thing.
I
mean
some
people
think,
even
because
we
had
the
rain.
You
know
just
this
past
week
that
demand
will
will
go
down.
I
mean
it
is
responsive
to
weather
for
sure,
but
these
challenges
are
going
to
continue
moving
forward.
There's
just
going
to
be,
you
know,
less
water
to
deal
with,
and
decisions
that
we're
all
gonna
have
to
make
related
to
outdoor
water
use
and
those
types
of
things.
K
I
Oh
very
good,
thank
you,
so
even
I
mean
even
small
leaks
are
considered
large.
At
this
point,
I
imagine.
K
Council
rivera,
I
would
say
yes,
we
would,
I
mean
we're
really
taking
a
hard
stance
on
on
weeks
this
summer,
during
our
high
demand
season
and
working
with
our
our
residents,
our
businesses
to
address
leaks,
and
so
from
my
personal,
you
know
from
from
our
perspective,
it's
always
nice
when
the
city
leads
by
example,
with
those
types
of
things.
I
Yeah,
I
agree
with
you
and
thank
you
for
being
here
and
answering
those
questions.
It
was
just
a
few,
but
thank
you
for
doing
that
appreciate
it.
B
No
problem,
okay,
I
I
have
a
few
questions.
Should
I
ask.
E
I'm
I'm
just
wondering
someone
asked
or
told
me
that
this
leakage
is
not
a
big
deal
and
if
we
could
offset
the
leakage
we
could
offset
the
leakage
by
fixing
a
hundred
households
of
drippy
faucets.
K
Mrs
chair
council,
via
reality
I
mean
that's,
that's
a
hard
thing
to
to
answer
without
really
looking
at
what
that
equates
to
I
mean
if,
if
a
home
were
leaking
at
this
rate,
that
would
be
a
very,
very
serious
leak
businesses.
You
know
we
expect
the
leaks
to
be
larger,
but
but
then
again
I
think
the
the
ending
statement
for
us
is
just
you
know.
K
Any
leak
right
now
is
something
that
should
be
addressed,
and
so
we're
working
closely
with
regina
to
see,
if
there's
anything
that
we
can
help
with
in
the
assessment,
but
even
fixing
city
leaks,
you
know,
might
be
a
bigger
priority
for
us
moving
forward,
and
maybe
we
can
help
with
some
of
the
funding
to
try
to
address
some
of
those
things.
But
this
is
a
leak
of
such
magnitude
that
you
know
you
you're
all
discussing
all
of
the
different
issues
around
it,
but
it
you
know
it
is
complex.
B
Okay,
so
there
are
no
additional
repairs
as
part
of
what's
being
presented
to
us,
but
there
have
been
some
repairs
so
do
we?
Do
we
think
that
impacted
the
the
amount
of
water
that's
leaking
at
all?
Or
we
I
mean-
and
I
know-
and
I
I
understand-
I
guess
that
the
repairs
that
we
did
do
didn't
fix
the
leaks
there's,
even
if
they
might
have
improved
the
situation
a
little
bit.
It's
still
leaking
correct.
H
B
Yeah-
and
I
guess
you
know
from
I,
I
yeah
I
don't
I
guess
I
don't
have
any
more
questions
I
just
have.
You
know
it
just
seems
like
one
of
the
things
that
we're
gonna
have
to
figure
out
is
how
do
you
evaluate
whether
you
fix
this
pool,
or
you
start
to
look
at
where
you
might
put
another
pool
and
whether
this
is
the
right
place
for
that
pool,
and
so
that's
something
I
don't
quite
understand
how
we'll
go
about
determining
and.
B
You
know,
I
think
we
all
should
be
realistic
too,
that
I
think
director
rinaldi
said
we
have
a
lot
of
buildings
in
these
kind
of
deferred,
maintenance
positions,
and
we
have
a
lot
so.
Therefore,
we
have
a
lot
of
deferred
maintenance.
We
also
have
a
lot
of
capital
projects
that
we're
still
funding
and
seeking
funding
for
so
if
we
were
to
build
a
new
pool,
it
seems
like
it'd
have
to
get
in
line
and
it
could
take
years,
because
I
would
assume
that
it
would
be
a
pretty
hefty
price
tag.
B
B
It's
million
we'd
have
to
figure
out
how
to
cite
it
and
it's
millions
of
dollars
and
we'd
have
to
seek
that
that
that
money-
and
you
know
we
still
have
a
fire
station
to
build
and
we've
got
airport
stuff-
and
I
mean
we've-
got
all
these
other
projects
that
we're
still
working
on.
H
B
Yeah,
so
it's
not
something
that's
going
to
happen
quickly
and,
and
then
that
gets
me
into
a
thing
of
once.
We
know
what
the
scope
of
the
repairs
are
with
this
pool.
You
know,
maybe
we
do
you
know
if
it's
I
don't
know.
Maybe
we
do
want
to
make
the
repairs
to
this
pool
and
then
start
the
long-term
planning
about
another
pool
so
that
we
don't
find
ourselves
in
this
situation
again
where
we're
rolling
into
the
summer
season,
and
we
don't
have
a
good
place
for
for
kids
to
swim.
B
So
that's
you
know
and
of
course,
there's
never
a
shortage
of
things
we
need
to
do.
I
guess
you
know
I
have
to.
I
have
to
agree
that
I
I
think
the
city
needs
to
lead
by
example,
and
even
if
we
have
reduced
the
leakage
by
20,
it's
still
a
lot
of
water,
and
I
would
agree
with
the
sentiment.
B
That's
been
expressed
here
that
that
alone
should
require
us
to
close
the
pool
for
this
summer
and
you
know
begin
the
work
of
of
you
know
finding
out
for
certain
the
scope
of
the
repairs
that
need
to
be
done
here
and
you
know
what
what
we
want
to
do
for
the
future,
and
I
guess
what
I
just
one
other
question
right
now:
we
only
have
staff
to
open
three
pools.
That's
correct!
Am
I
right
about
that?
B
B
Okay,
and
we
are
not.
You
know
we
don't
know
exactly
when
we
will
have
the
staffing
capacity
to
if
we
wanted
to
open
all
four
pools,
correct,
I'm
sure
that's
correct,
okay,
all
right,
so
I
do
think
I
mean
we
do
have
a
motion
with
no
recommendation.
It
seems
to
me
we
do
have
enough
information
and
there
is
sentiment
here
to
make
a
recommendation
that
we
not
open
salvador
perez,
but
I
think
certainly
will
we
can.
B
Let
the
vote
on
this
motion
direct
the
action
of
the
committee,
but
I
it
seems
like
we
could
recommend-
and
I
think
you
know
several
of
us
have
said
this
is
something
even
with
the
information
we
have
now
that
we
shouldn't
be
doing
all
right.
Any
other
discussion
on
this
motion.
D
D
So
we've
got
the
resolution
which
asks
for
us
to
open
up
the
pool.
Then
we've
got
a
proposed
amendment
that
asks
for
us
to
close
the
pool
and
pursue
a
permanent
long-term
solution
to
repair
bicentennial
and
I'm
in
agreement
with
with
everybody.
That's
spoken
that
we
need
to
keep
it
closed
and
not
necessarily
pursue
a
permanent
long-term
solution
to
repair
but
pursue
you
know
the
thorough
evaluation,
and
that
way
we
can
make
determination.
Do
we
repair?
Do
we
look
at
other
avenues?
D
B
That's
a
good
question:
oh
jesse's
got
his
hand
up.
L
There
we
go
so
the
amendment,
that's
in
your
packet
would
do
what
I
believe
you
were
discussing,
which
is
keep
the
the
pool
closed
for
the
season.
L
B
Our
what
we
do
here
is
not
final,
so
it
would
just
be.
The
quality
of
life
committee
is
recommending
closing
the
pool
for
the
summer
season
and
I
think
counselor
garcia.
If
you
don't
like
the
the
ending
part
of
that
language,
we
could
just
strike
it
where
it
says
you
know,
come
up
with
a
plan
and-
and
we
could
have
something
ready
at
governing
body
to
better
articulate
what
the
next
steps
are,
but
at
least
with
this
committee
would
be
taking
a
stand.
B
But,
of
course,
as
we
know,
nothing's
final
until
the
governing
body
votes
it
counselor,
councilwoman,
vial,
you've
had
your
hand
up
sorry.
B
Yeah
yeah,
so
I
would,
I
just
need
to
pull
it
up
here.
Sorry,
I
mean,
I
think,
what
we
do
is
we
pass.
We
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
resolution
and
then
we
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
amendment
that
would
close
the
pool
striking
that
that
tail
language,
if
counselor
garcia,
thinks
that's
something
we
should
do,
and
there
are
enough
votes
to
support
that
and
then
we
vote.
B
D
Madam
chair,
I'm
happy
to
withdraw
it
because
I
think
we
do
I'm
happy
to
make
those
changes
where
we
kind
of
strike
that
line.
I
don't
know
if
we
can
do
that,
but
sure,
because
I
do
think
we
need
to
take
out
the
language
that
says
to
repair
bicentennial,
because
we
don't
know
that.
I
think
that
potentially
commits
us
to
something.
That's
the
unknown
right
now,.
B
Okay
and
so
then,
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
is
move
to
approve
the
motion
and
have
a
second
and
then
we'll
immediately
make
another
motion
to
amend
the
resolution.
B
D
Madam
trump
make
a
motion
to
amend
the
proposed
amendment
to
strike
the
last
four
words
and
those
words
are
to
repair
bicentennial
pool.
B
Am
I
correct
in
that
second
again?
Okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
amend
the
resolution
to
keep
bicentennial
pool
closed
for
the
2021
summer
season
and
pursue
a
permanent
long-term
solution.
We
have
a
motion
in
a
second
if
we
could
take
a
roll
call
on
the
amendment.
Only.
D
E
B
Yes,
all
right
so
now
we
have
an
amended
resolution
and
we
need-
and
if
is,
are
there
other
changes?
The
committee
would
like
to
make
all
right.
I
think
we
can
take
a
roll
call
on
the
the
the
resolution
as
amended.
D
E
E
B
Yes,
all
right
with
that,
we
will
move
on
to
the
then
so
the
amended
resolution
passes.
We
will
move
on
to
item
e
counselor
garcia.
You
also
told
this
item.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'm
sorry
just
for
everybody
who
may
not
be
looking
at
an
agenda!
Sorry
about
that
request
for
approval
of
volunteer
station
agreement
with
the
boys
and
girls
club
of
santa
fe,
no
fine
financial
responsibility
for
the
foster,
grandparent
program,
boys
and
girls
club
of
santa
fe,
and
we
have
anaya
allarid.
B
I
think
is
here
on
that
on
this
on
this
item.
So
councillor
garcia,.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
miss
ellery
for
being
here
with
us.
I'm
sorry,
I've
gotta
keep
you
here,
but
I
do
have
to
recuse
myself
from
this
matter
as
I
work
for
the
federal
agency
that
hosts
the
foster
grandparent
program,
so
I
am
going
to
step
away
from
the
meeting
for
a
moment.
Madam
chair.
B
Great
jennifer
will
you
text
counselor
garcia
when
we
finished
and
do
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
this
item?
B
Second,
okay:
we
have
a
motion
from
councilwoman
villarreal,
a
second
by
counselor
cassette.
Is
there
a
discussion
on
this
item?
B
Seeing
none
will
move
for
a
vote
jennifer
if
you
could
take
the
role.
I
B
Yes,
all
right,
that
item
has
been
approved
if
we
could
text
counselor,
garcia
and
we'll
wait
while
he
rejoins
to
move
on
to
our
presentations.
We
have
two
tonight,
but
I
want
counselor
garcia
to
be
present
before
we
move.
B
E
B
Okay,
counselor
garcia
has
rejoined
us
and
we
will
move
to
our
presentations.
As
I
mentioned,
we
do
have
two
tonight
we're
going
to
start
with
the
santa
fe
public
library
update,
and
we
have
our
director
of
public
libraries,
maria
sanchez
tucker
with
us
tonight.
Welcome
and
you
have
the
floor.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
B
M
Thank
you
so
much
for
allowing
me
to
provide
a
quick
update
on
the
work
of
the
santa
fe
public
library.
I
always
enjoy
talking
about
the
wonderful
work
the
staff
of
the
public
library
are
doing
for
the
community,
so
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
quick
update
on
some
of
the
work
that
we
have
accomplished
in
this
last
year.
M
Our
staff
work
very
hard.
We
check
out
an
average
of
15
000
physical
library
materials
each
month,
that's
an
average
and
our
digital
use
continues
to
increase.
We
have
premium
digital
services,
books,
ebooks,
audiobooks
and
movies-
that
many
of
our
community
are
checking
out
and
using
daily.
Our
staff.
E
Yes,
can
you
put
the
view,
so
it's
just
the
one
screen,
because
we
can
see
the
next
slide.
Also,
okay,
oh
sure,
and
we
can
see
your
notes,
so
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that.
M
Oh
thank
you
for
letting
me
know
that.
Let
me
take
it
off
presenter
view.
Okay,
great,
thank
you
and
we.
We
also
have
average
1500
reference
questions
each
month
that
we
answer
over
the
phone
or
by
email
from
the
community.
M
We
partnered
with
the
master
gardeners
this
year
to
provide
a
self-serve
seed
library
and
the
master
gardeners
were
able
to
give
out
900
seeds,
seed
packets
throughout
the
community
at
their
five
locations.
So
that
was
a
great
partnership
that
we've
worked
on
this
year
and
then
we'll
continue
to
explore
our
partnerships
with
master
gardeners,
we're
also
working
very
closely
with
the
santa
fe
children's
museum.
We
have
an
imls
funded
project
that
we're
working
on
to
support
school
readiness
through
libraries
and
museums,
and
we
provided
some
in-person
story
times
at
the
santa
fe
children's
museum
camps.
M
Also,
we
provide
an
average
of
500
monthly
take
and
make
activity
kits,
and
so
our
families
really
love
these
different
activities
that
we
provide
each
month
and
we
work
with
community
partners,
the
museum
of
international
folk,
art
and
other
partners.
The
santa
fe
children's
museum
have
also
provided
kits
that
we
distribute.
M
We
also
have
received
a
public
library
association
intern.
So
we
are
currently
recruiting
a
16
through
19
year
old
to
come
work
at
the
library
this
summer
and
we're
hoping
that
they
can
help
us
with
an
outreach
plan
to
better
serve
our
community
and
so
hopefully,
we'll
be
able
to
announce
an
intern
our
intern.
Very
soon
we
are
also
able
to
launch
the
cohs
high
school
program.
M
This
is
for
adults
who
are
seeking
a
high
school
diploma,
and
this
is
through
a
partnership
with
the
state
library,
and
we
just
are
about
to
award
a
scholarship
to
our
first
student,
so
we'll
be
happy
to
see
how
that
pilot
program
goes
and
how
we
can
help
with
high
school
education
for
adults.
M
So
all
together
we
had
44
programs.
We
had
28
community
partners
involved
in
the
project
we
had.
We
gave
out
250
books
to
santa
fe,
high
and
capital
high
school.
We
gave
out
250
books
to
the
community
and
500
books
to
elementary
students,
and
we
had
555
big,
read,
books
checked
out,
and
that
was
just
the
adult
book.
We
haven't
captured
all
of
our
statistics
yet
for
the
project.
But
a
report
is
forthcoming
on
all
of
our
statistics
and
then
we
also
had
a
youth
component
to
our
big
read.
M
We
had
a
book
selected
by
giuji
morales
dreamers
and
the
only
road
by
local
author,
alexandra,
diaz
and
juji
morales,
presented
online
to
the
school
district,
and
I
think
we
had
about
20
classes
participate
about.
A
thousand
students
were
able
to
watch
her
presentation
and
it
was
just
really
inspiring.
M
We
had
a
teacher
who
really
thanked
us
for
giving
out
books
to
her
classroom
and
the
spanish-speaking
bilingual
program
really
was
inspiring
to
many
students,
and
they
felt
very
appreciative
of
having
that
aspect
of
a
bilingual
program
in
their
school
and
alexandra.
Diaz
visited
the
atc
school
and
did
a
program
with
the
school
there,
and
you
can
see
the
picture
that
they
made
a
banner
for
her,
and
so
our
school
programs
went
really
well
and
we
look
forward
to
another
big
read
where
we
all
come
together.
M
You
can
see
that
this
is
just
one
of
the
views
of
what
it
looks
like
and
it
has
more
of
the
visual
searching
mechanism.
So
it's
more
like
a
netflix
when
you
look
through
your
books,
type
system
and
then
a
really
big
project
is
that
we
are
implementing
a
new
integrated
library
system,
which
is
the
brains
of
the
operation
of
the
library.
It's
our
database.
It's
how
we
check
out
books,
it's
how
we
catalog
books.
M
Hopefully
it'll
only
be
more
positive
for
the
staff
who
use
it
on
the
back
end,
we
also
were
able
to
create
a
partnership
with
santa
fe
public
school,
where
the
kids
can
access
our
digital
collection
seamlessly
through
their
through
their
chromebooks
that
they
have
through
their
school.
And
so
we
received
this
report
from
the
santa
fe
public
school
that
2621
accounts
were
created
in
the
schools.
6
382
books
were
accessed
and
2677
hours
of
reading
time
took
place,
and
so
this
is
a
partnership
that
we
will
continue
to
cultivate
and
add
more
resources
for
students.
M
M
We
had
27
laptops
and
36
hot
spots
checked
out
since
may
7th,
and
so
it
was
a
slow
rollout,
we're
going
to
start
marketing
and
getting
the
word
out
to
more
people
in
the
community
doing
more
outreach
and
partnerships
getting
getting
the
word
out
to
our
partners
on
people
who
may
need
access
to
a
laptop
if
they
have
a
training
or
they
need
to
do
an
application.
So
please
help
spread
the
word
that
this
is
available
and
then
right
off
the
heels
of
the
big
read
our
success
with
the
big
read.
M
This
is
just
june's
schedule,
but
you
can
find
all
of
this
information
on
the
santa
fe
public
library
website.
But
we've
put
together
outdoor
story
times,
zoom
story
times
a
stem
project
with
stem
santa
fe,
where
we're
rising
fifth
or
seventh
graders
will
participate
in
stem
activities
on
saturdays
we're
also
going
to
have
outdoor
crafts.
M
So
there's
a
variety
of
activities
to
keep
kids
engaged
this
summer
through
our
summer
reading
program,
and
we
held
our
first
outdoor
story
time
on
monday,
and
it
was
really
rewarding
to
be
back
with
our
our
wonderful
young
library
users
and
they
had
so
much
fun
and
I
think
the
librarians
might
have
had
even
more
fun
getting
back
with
their
patrons.
So
it
was
great
to
be
able
to
use
our
outdoor
space.
M
And
then
we
had
a
great
vaccination
and
bike
event
on
may
22nd.
You
wouldn't
ordinarily
think
that
those
two
would
go
together,
but
chain
breaker
collective,
reached
out
to
us
and
asked
if
we
could
do
a
bike,
repair
and
bike
raffle
and
we
said
sure,
and
so
they
outreached
to
a
lot
of
families
and
they
decided
to
find
out
if
we
could
also
make
it
a
vaccination
event
and
through
a
great
partnership
with
our
community
health
and
safety
department
and
the
doh
and
chain
breaker
collective.
M
We
had
over
320
over
300
people
vaccinated
that
day
at
the
south
side,
library
and
so
books
were
given
away
free
ice
cream.
Was
there
80,
kids
signed
up
for
summer
reading?
We
had
craft
kits
to
give
out
and
free
books,
and
so
it
was
just
a
really
great
way.
You
know
libraries
are
a
trusted
location
trusted
space
in
the
community,
and
this
is
the
type
of
activity
that
we
should
be
doing
at
libraries
all
of
the
time,
and
so
it
was
just
a
great
partnership.
M
And
just
thank
you
once
again,
I'm
very
grateful
to
our
dedicated
library
staff.
They
work
so
diligently.
They
work
to
support
each
other.
We
have
done
everything
collaboratively
with
our
short
staffed
situation
that
we
have
right
now
we're
working
to
fill
positions,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
positions
that
we've
lost
through
retention
or
resonate.
You
know
through
retirement
or
resignation,
and
we
can
get
some
of
these
filled
and
get
our
staff
supported
and
up
and
running
again,
but
we
really
work
collaboratively
to
meet
a
lot
of
goals.
M
This
year,
we've
taken
on
a
lot
of
projects
that
we
were
able
to
do
during
this
time
where
buildings
were
closed,
and
I
just
see
a
lot
more
great
things
coming
from
our
library
staff.
So
I'm
very
very
appreciative
of
the
work
they
do
and
I'm
pleased
to
announce
this
is
you
are
the
first
people
to
hear
this
news
that
our
library
buildings
were
planning
to
reopen
july,
7th
and
so
we'll
be
open
to
in-person
browsing?
You
can
pick
up
your
holes,
we'll
have
computer
use
limited
to
one
hour.
M
We'll
have
limited
seating,
we'll
hold
off
on
public
meeting
and
study
rooms
at
this
point
in
the
phase,
but
we'll
add
those
in
at
a
later
phase
and
then
we'll
continue
with
outdoor
programming
virtual
programming,
our
wi-fi
and
hot
spots
and
laptops
will
continue.
Outdoor
wi-fi
is
available
and
then
we'll
continue
curbside
service
for
those
who
need
or
request
the
service.
M
But
we
will
allow
people
in
the
building.
So
it's
very
exciting
we
will.
We
will
still
have
some
limited
hours
tuesday
through
saturday.
Ten
to
six
is
the
plan
and
then,
as
soon
as
we
are
back
to
full
staffing
and
staffing,
can
allow,
we
will
increase
our
hours
as
possible.
So
this
is
very
exciting
news.
I
know
that
you
probably
have
received
a
few
questions
about
when
the
libraries
were
opening.
M
We
do
too,
and
so
we're
working
with
mr
herndon
to
get
a
press
release
out
and
to
make
make
some
announcements
about
this,
and
with
that
I
will
answer
any
questions
or
stand
for
questions.
Thank
you
so
much.
B
Great
and
if
you
can
stop
sharing
your
screen,
that'll
help
me
and
very
exciting
news.
I
I
think
we
all
have
gotten
emails
about
when
the
libraries
were
going
to
be
opening,
and
I
was
going
to
ask
you
in
fact
so
very,
very
exciting,
and
but
it
this
presentation
also
demonstrates
how
much
work
and
how
much
you've
been
available
to
the
community,
even
when
you
haven't
had
the
buildings
open.
So
thank
you
for
that
work.
We
do
have
a
number
of
questions
from
committee.
B
I
think
counselor
cass,
that
your
hand
was
up
first.
J
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
so
much
maria
for
being
here,
and
that
is
very
exciting
news
about
the
library
opening.
That
is
one
that
I've
absolutely
received
that
question
numerous
times.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
all
your
hard
work.
I
know
that
it.
It
takes
a
lot
to
get
a
facility,
let
alone
three
open
for
a
coveted,
safe
world.
I
just
had
a
couple
questions
one
I
was.
I
was
curious
about
how
the
laptop
lending
program
is
going.
I
know
when
you
had
presented
that
to
us.
J
M
M
So
fortunately,
it's
going
well
we're
still
assessing
and
we're
that's
why
we
wanted
to
keep
the
rollout
slow
and
make
sure
that
we
had
any
of
the
issues
taken
care
of
and
then,
if
things
came
up,
we
would
adjust
them
along
the
way,
but
so
far
so
good.
You
know
I'm
sure
that
we
will
have
some
that
do
not
return,
but
we've
tried.
We
hired
a
consultant
to
help
us
think
of
every
possible
scenario
and
to
try
to
set
them
up.
M
So
you
know
they
will
turn
off
if
you
don't
return
them
after
a
certain
period.
Our
hot
spots
will
also
do
the
same
thing.
So
we
do
have
some
security
measures
in
place,
and
I
just
I
think
it's
been
great.
Some
people
have
just
come
in
and
use
it.
We
have
an
express
laptop
that
you
can
just
use
at
the
library
outside
the
library.
If
you
need
to
do
a
quick
something
we
also
have
curbside
printing.
M
So
we
have
been,
you
know,
providing
library
services
just
in
trying
to
be
as
safe
as
possible
for
both
our
staff
and
the
community.
J
That's
good
to
hear
about
the
curbside
printing.
I
was
not
aware
of
that,
and
I
know
that's
that's
been
another
one
of
those
questions
I've
received
in
terms
of
the
tech
support
has
that
been
something
that
your
librarians
have
been
taking
on
and
have
they
been
able
to
keep
up
with
the
demand
of
people
needing
that
support.
M
They
have
and
the
librarians
are
we.
You
know
we
have
set
out
some
tables
outside
so
that
we
can
work
with
patrons
as
they
come
in
and
have
questions,
and
so
we've
either
been
able
to
walk
people
through
over
the
phone
or
help
them
if
they
bring
the
computer
in
and
walk
them
through.
But
that's
one
of
the
things
we
would
like
to
do
is
just
offer
more
classes
offer
more
bilingual
information.
So
those
are
areas
that
we
are
continuing
to
improve.
J
And
then
my
my
last
question
has
to
do
with
you
know
right
before
the
pandemic
hit,
we
had
I've
been
having
the
discussion
of
doing
books
and
babies,
programs
on
the
weekends,
because
it
was
that
you
know
early
exposure
to
reading
and
they
had
only
been
offered
during
the
week
and
now
that
programming
is
coming
back.
I
know
this
was
something
that
a
lot
of
families
are
really
excited
about,
and
I'm
curious
if
we
can
start
to
look
at
that
opportunity
to
be
bringing
that
back
and
I
believe
we
were.
M
Yes,
I'm
in
conversation
with
jordan
wax
to
see
if
he
can
continue
and
then
we
would
like
to
start
out
an
outdoor
books
and
babies
again
and
we're
really
looking
to
strengthen
our
early
childhood
programming.
And
so
hopefully
we
can
even
have
more
extensions
of
books
and
babies
and
really
strengthen
what
we're
providing
to
the
community.
J
M
Maine
has
the
we've
been
we're
trying
it
in
the
front,
we
had
some
mexican
folklorico
dancers
in
the
front
of
maine
and
it
worked
out
really
well
so
we're
going
to
try
story
time
in
the
front
of
the
library.
We're
also
going
to
do
a
youth
program
with
the
pride
during
the
pride
event
and
do
a
youth
program
outside
in
the
front.
So
we're
going
to
see
how
that
goes
and
we'll
assess
lafarge
is
a
little
bit
trickier.
M
Lafarge
is
one
of
the
we
have
to
concentrate
more
time
because
of
the
capacity
issues
and
the
space
issues,
so
we
haven't
really
been
able
to
figure
out
how
to
safely
do
outdoor
programming,
but
we're
still
looking
at
it.
J
Would
there
be
a
possibility?
I
know
it's
a
little
bit
more
challenging
because
there's
a
travel
component,
but
would
there
be
a
possibility
to
utilize
city
parks
for
some
of
the
programming
that
are
close
by?
I
know
that
there's
the
park
very
close
to
south
side
there's,
you
know,
parks
relatively
close
to
lafarge.
M
You
know
we
have
we
considered
it,
and
then
we
just
thought
if
we
were
going
to
get
a
give
a
lot
of
books
away
and
things
like
that
and
prizes
that
we
want
really
wanted
to
be
available
close
to
the
library.
So
we
are
going
to
have
the
the
big
event
at
swan
park.
So
parks
are
still
part
of
it
and
it
may
become
that
parks
become
a
future
outreach
point
when
we
have
more
staffing-
and
maybe
next
year
in
the
summer,
just
to
make
programming
library
programs
more
available
to
the
public.
J
Well,
thank
you
so
much
thank
you
to
you
and
your
team
for
your
work
and
you
know
continuing
to
provide
those
services
throughout
the
pandemic.
I
know
that
it's
been.
It's
really
been
a
help
to
the
community.
I
know
a
lot
of
people
who
have
really
appreciated
the
library
services
and
just
still
having
that
opportunity
for
reading,
maybe
even
a
little
bit
more
opportunity
for
reading
than
normal.
So
I
greatly
appreciate
the
work
of
you
and
your
team
thanks.
So
much.
N
Great
councilwoman
vrael
you
have
the
floor.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
really
don't
have
any
questions.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
maria
and
her
team
for
keeping
people
inspired
and
creating
joy
during
this
hard
time,
even
though
it
was
virtual.
I
just
feel
like
you
all,
have
done
an
incredible
job
and
your
presentation
made
me
want
to
cry
thinking
about
all
the
things
that
you
put
together.
E
You
know
really
at
the
last
minute
to
try
to
be
able
to
support
the
community
so
and-
and
I
think
the
nea
the
big
read
was
very
successful.
I
participated
in
a
few
things
and
so
impressed,
and
it
was
just
it
felt
like
almost
like
in
person,
but
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
so.
I
Thank
you,
miss
sanchez
tucker.
I
live
by
the
south
side
library
I
drive
by
there
daily,
so
I
see
the
amount
of
people
that
are
in
the
parking
lot
using
free
wi-fi
and
taking
advantage
of
the
advantage
of
all
the
services
that
you
talked
about
in
your
presentation.
So
I
do
see
that
and
appreciate
that
tremendously.
I
What
I
did
want
to
ask
is
in
regards
to
reopening.
Since
again
as
to
my
knowledge,
anyone
under
12
still
cannot
receive
the
vaccine,
so
they're
going
to
be
special
procedures
or
protocols.
With
regards
to
the
kids
section.
M
We
are
just
going
to
continue
to
ask
anybody
within
the
library
building
to
wear
masks
and
to
you
know
we
were
taking
away
all
of
the
toys
and
things
like
that
that
you
know
kids
would
touch
that
kind
of
thing.
But
you
know,
fortunately,
the
south
side
library
has
a
lot
of
room
to
space
out,
and
so
you
know
we'll
just
continue
to
monitor
capacity
and
and-
and
hopefully
people
can.
You
know
practice
social
distance
and
wear
masks
and
be
considerate
of
each
other's
space.
M
But
I
I
think
several
libraries
have
opened
up.
So
it's
fortunate
for
us
to
be
able
to
look
at
best
practices
and
they've
been
able
to
do
so
safely,
so
we're
trying
to
incorporate
all
of
those
practices
into
our
opening
plan.
I
Well,
I
I
don't
know
if
you
heard
tonight,
but
it
looks
like
our
kiddie
pools,
the
two
that
we
have
in
santa
fe
aren't
going
to
be
open
this
season.
So
I
imagine
a
lot
of
people
are
going
to
be
looking
to
the
libraries
for
all
your
programming,
so
I
appreciate
everything
you're
doing
like
I
said,
and
I
know
you're
going
to
do
everything
possible
to
make
sure
everybody's
safe.
So
thank
you
for
that
appreciate.
It.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
maria
for
the
update.
I'm
excited
to
have
the
libraries
open
again
and
just
please
thank
your
team,
for
you
know
all
the
the
work
that
they
put
in
over
this
last
year
that
the
pivoting
that
they've
had
to
do
to
provide
the
services
to
our
community
members.
It's
it's
been
great.
I
mean
we've
done
the
whole
pick
up
your
the
books
on
the
curb
and
it's
been
flawless.
D
So
I'm
happy
I'm
happy
that
we're
now
turning
the
page
so
to
speak
and
we're
gonna
allow
folks
in
indoors
and
as
councillor
rivera
said,
please
I'll
I'll
caution
you
that
there
you'll
probably
see
a
wave
of
interest
over
the
summer
from
folks,
and
so
that
and
that's
a
good
thing.
That's
definitely
a
good
thing,
but
but
thank
you
again
and
best
of
luck.
As
with
all
the
openings.
Thank
you.
M
B
Great
again,
thank
you
for
all
your
work.
It
really
is
tremendous.
Thank
you
for
being
here
tonight.
I
really
enjoyed
hearing
about
all
the
things
that
you've
been
doing
so
lots
of
gratitude.
Thank
you.
B
With
that
we
move
on
to
our
second
presentation:
we
have
our
land
use
director,
eli
isaacson
with
us
to
talk
about
growth
management
planning
and
I
believe
director
isaacson.
You
have
maybe
a
powerpoint
or
something
to
share
with
us.
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
council.
I
do
have
a
slide
deck.
I
don't
know
if
I
have
permission
to
share
my
screen.
Oh
I
do
fantastic.
Can
everyone
see
that.
B
O
B
O
N
O
Okay,
thank
you
for
bearing
with
me
so
yes,
so
I'm
here
this
evening
to
talk
about
growth
management
planning
planning
for
growth
here
in
our
city.
You
know
the
question
is:
what
is
growth
management
planning?
You
know,
growth
management
planning
is
a
type
of
a
you
know.
Growth
management
plan
is
a
type
of
a
comprehensive
plan
that
can
be
used
to
measure
the
impact
new
growth
will
have
on
a
community
and
define.
O
Growth
based
off
the
natural
and
financial
resources
required
to
to
sustain
growth-
you
know,
I
think
growth
management
planning
is
is
is
geared
towards
concentrating
development
really
towards
existing
or
new
urban
centers.
O
You
know
where
we
have
access
to
things
like
trails,
transit
services,
in
an
attempt
to
reduce
automobile
dependence
and
really
encourage
and
promote
bicycle
and
pedestrian
movement,
and
then
we're
looking
to
promote
development
that
provides
a
range
of
housing
options
and
addresses
community-wide
needs
around
housing,
affordability,
which
is
obviously
something
that's
very
important
to
the
city
right
now,
so
growth
management
and
the
1999
general
plan.
As
many
of
you
know,
chapter
four
of
the
general
plan
speaks
directly
to
growth
management.
O
I
think
some
of
you
have
probably
read
that
section,
and
so
you
know
the
1999
plan
establishes
a
framework
for
responding
to
challenges
and
opportunity
presented
by
our
city's
growth.
The
growth
management
plan
should
you
know,
be
organized
to
respond
to
the
community's
specific
vision,
goals
and
objectives
and
we'll
likely
discuss
many
of
the
same
themes.
And
so
you
know
I've
pulled
out
the
sort
of
growth
management
themes
from
the
general
plan
here
on
the
screen.
O
Things
like
quality
of
life,
urban
form,
transportation,
alternatives,
water,
sustainable
growth,
regional
planning,
perspectives
and
then
doing
sort
of
a
quick,
some
research
and
and
an
audit
of
other
growth
management
plans
that
have
been
done
in
other
communities.
You
start
to
see
similar
themes.
You
know,
emerge
around
ideas
around
livability.
P
O
A
O
Truly
unique
and
remarkable
place
to
live
our
community's
quality
of
life
and
livability
continues
to
attract
new
residents,
and
so
that
you
know,
because
we're
such
a
desirable
community
we're
starting
to
see
issues
around
growth
and
pressures
being
put
on
our
community
by
people
coming
to
santa
fe
from
other
parts
of
the
country
and
so
really
looking
at
a
smart
and
inclusive
growth
management
plan
to
ensure
that
this
population
growth
provides
equitable
access
to
future
employment
opportunities,
supports
housing,
choice
and
affordability,
and
also
preserves
our
city's
vital
cultural
and
natural
resources,
and
so
some
of
the
ideas.
O
You
know
that
growth
management
planning
will
look
at.
Are
you
know
the
long-term
outcomes
of
unharnessed
growth,
the
social,
environmental
and
fiscally
sustainable
strategies
that
growth
will
require
and
growth
planning
will
require
maintaining
a
sense
of
place
while
accommodating
the
needs
of
this
expanding
and
diversifying
population,
and
then
ensuring
that
development
processes
are
equitable
and
balance
the
needs
of
our
entire
community.
O
So,
looking
at
some
trends,
some
demographic
trends-
we
see
you
know
our
population
over
the
last
10
years-
has
grown
by
over
15
000,
but
our
annual
population
growth
has
sort
of
tapered
off
and
sort
of
risen
and
fallen
recently
in
the
last
few
years.
I
think
what
we're
also
seeing
is,
which
is
our
population,
is
getting
older
in
some
ways.
This
is
actually
something
that
the
growth
management
section
of
the
general
plan
and.
O
Is
that
we're
starting
to
see
not
only
smaller
household
size,
but
also
the
median
age
of
our
city
increasing?
And
so,
if
you
look
at
2010
versus
2020,
you
start
to
see
more
and
more
census
tracts
are
actually
having
a
higher
percentage
of
residents
over
the
age
of
65,
and
so
you
know
what
does
that
mean
for
housing?
A
O
You
know
virtually
zero,
a
functional
rate
of
zero,
and
so
that's
really
putting
a
lot
of
strain
on
our
local
housing
market.
You
know
if
we
look
at
trends
in
employment.
You
know
we
start
to
see
that
our
sort
of
largest
employment
industries,
our
education
and
healthcare,
hospitality,
retail
professional
services
and
public
administration.
O
Where
we
have
less
jobs
in
our
city
or
in
the
areas
of
financial
services,
tech
and
manufacturing,
and
so
you
know,
I
think,
there's
you
know
this
tells
me
that
there's
a
need
to
diversify
our
local
economy.
The
unemployment
rate
on
the
right
of
the
screen
is
a
little
misleading.
O
Because
of
the
impacts
of
the
pandemic,
but
you
can
see
we
have
a
pretty
tight
labor
market
in
under
normal
circumstances,
but
we're
not
necessarily
seeing
a
lot
of
job
growth
in
some
of
the
higher
paying
industries
of
the
employment
sector.
O
You
know
we're
starting
to
see
increases
in
number
of
residents
with
bachelor's
degrees,
but
if
we
look
at
a
lot
of
our
largest
employers
we're
starting
to
see,
we
see
that
a
lot
of
our
largest
employers
are
in
the
hospitality
sectors
and
so
there's
a
disconnect
there
right.
We
have
highly
educated
people,
but
not
necessarily
a
lot
of
job
growth
in
areas
that
pay
wages
that
support
people
say
with
student
loan
debt,
and
things
like
that.
So
I
think
this
picture
points
to
a
a
a
picture
of
santa
fe.
O
That's
you
know
say
that's
becoming
a
little
older
and
maybe
has
less
opportunity
for
people
in
the
age
group
of
say,
20
to
40
young
people,
young
professionals
who
are
going
to
come
to
santa
fe
and
raise
their
families.
I
Thank
you.
What
does
the
state
of
new
mexico
fit
in
as
a
as
an
employer.
O
So
they
I'm
sure,
they're
a
significant
employer
on
here
you
see
the
city
of
santa
fe
and
santa
fe
county.
This
is
data
that
was
pulled
from
my
sidewalk.com.
It's
something
we
use
in
economic
development
and
community
development.
The
source
of
this
information
is
in
mexico
partnership.
I
And
I
don't
know
if
you're
going
to
capture
it
in
another
slide
or
not,
but
there
are
places
like
los
alamos
where
many
of
our
work
first
goes
up
to
yet
they
live
here.
So
is
that
is
there
a
way
to
capture
that
anyway?.
O
So
we
we-
I
am
not
gonna.
I
don't
have
that.
I
don't
have
any
data
on
that
in
this
presentation,
but
I
think
counselor
that's
an
excellent
point
and
I
think
we
actually
have
we
it.
We
have
a
displaced
work
workforce
and
we
have
folks
that
commute
into
our
city
from
outlying
communities
in
the
county
or
as
far
as
rio,
rancho
that
are
sort
of
taking
their
wages
back
to
their
communities
where
they
do
their
shopping
and
recreating.
O
A
O
Employment
sectors
like
or
into
employers
like
lanl
and
others
that
are
you,
know,
living
here
and
working
there.
I
think
a
lot
of
that
workforce
is
actually
captured
in
this
professional
science,
scientific
and
professional
category.
This
13.1
percent
of
our
workforce-
and
I
think,
a
lot
of
those
jobs
are
lab.
Jobs
of
santa
fe
residents
commuting
up
the
hill
to
go
to
work.
I
All
right
and
then
just
one
last
question
on
a
previous
slide,
but
how
much
of
the
population
increase
can
be
attributed
to
annexation.
O
That's
an
excellent
question
and
based
off
of
you,
know
this
large
increase
in
population,
but
this
sort
of
you
know
population
growth
rate
hovering
around
half
a
percent.
I
would
assume
that
a
fair
amount
of
that
population
increase
is
due
to
annexation,
but
I
don't
have
concrete
information
on
that.
O
I
do
so
switching
gears
here
thinking
about
public
engagement
and
growth
management
planning
process.
You
know
the
process
will
be
an
open
process
that
challenges
our
thinking
in
the
future.
It
will
be
inclusive
to
participants
from
all
walks
of
life
in
all
areas
of
the
city,
which
I
think
is.
O
When
we
come
to
a
community
engagement
process
and
really
sort
of
guiding
that
process,
but
by
the
goals
of
educating,
engaging
and
empowering
our
community,
efforts
will
be
made
to
include
new
voices
in
the
community
planning
process
and
use
methods,
outreach
that
provide
equitable
means
of
engagement.
I
mean,
I
think
you
know
we
haven't
done
a
growth
management.
We.
O
Any
real,
significant
long-range
planning
in
the
city
since
the
mid-90s,
late
90s,
so
there's
a
whole
generation
of
santa
feans
that
had
not
really
participated
in
a
meaningful
conversation
about
a
vision
for
the
future
of
our
city,
and
so
I
think
that
one
of
the
challenges
we'll
have
with
this
is
really
trying
to
engage
a
different
set
of
people,
a
different
set
of
residents
to
really
get
them
involved
in
shaping
the
future
of
this.
This
plan
and
our
growth
management
strategies
moving
forward.
O
Future
growth
we've
established
future
language
designations
and
zoning
designations
that
we
use
in
in
our
entitlement
approvals
process
and
rezoning
applications.
You
know
we
create
we've
created
zoning
overlays
like
the
midtown
link
and
we're
right
now
in
the
process
of
looking
at
redevelopment
of
the
midtown
campus.
We've
done
several
planning
efforts
and
planning
documents,
such
as
the
southwest
southwest
area
master
plan
and
the
25-year
sustainable
sanitate
plan.
We've.
O
Series
of
small
area
plans
like
the
santa
fe
river
corridor
plan,
we've
done
things
in
our
foothills
and
escarpment
areas
to
limit
mountainside
development.
We've
done
a
lot
in
the
area
of
green
building
ordinances,
including
the
adoption
of
hers
and
wars
which
are
energy
and
water
efficiency
rating
systems.
O
The
water
conservation
team
is,
you
know,
continually
doing
water
planning
and
looking
at
conservation
measures
producing
40
to
80
year
plans,
there's
also
a
storm
water
management
plan
to
protect
our
arroyos,
and
then
we
do
capital
improvement
planning,
as
well
as
impact
fee
capital
improvement
planning
as
well
to
try
to
identify
projects
where
we
would
spend
resources
to
support
future
growth
in
the
city,
around
infrastructure
and
facilities.
O
So
part
of
growth
management
planning
is,
is
really
looking
at
infill
and
and
trying
to
identify
the
benefits
of
density.
You
know,
one
of
the
outcomes
of
density
are
walkable
and
complete.
Neighborhoods
complete
neighborhoods
are
those
that
support
a
sense
of
community
that
really
encourage
walking
and
provide
for
active
lifestyles.
O
You
know
what
we
hear
a
lot
from
folks
is
that
you
know
some
of
our
most
desirable
areas
of
the
city
which
are
sort
of
downtown
and
and
in
the
east
side
are
also
some
of
our
most
dense
right
in
with
densities
ranging
from
21
to
29
units
per
acre,
and
so
you
know,
density
done
right
can
actually
create
really
wonderful,
walkable
active
neighborhoods
that
also
lower
the
reliance
of
families
on
automobiles,
which
contributes
to
the
affordability
equation,
but
also
really
helps
when
you
know
helps
us
achieve
our
goals
around
carbon
neutrality
and
sustainability.
O
You
know
again:
growth
management
planning
really
has
a
lot
to
do
with
housing
and
housing
choice
and
connecting
housing
to
employment,
centers
to
enhance
livability
and
also
we're
reducing
the
requirement
of
use
of
automobiles.
You
know
we
want
residential
development
occurring
in
a
variety
of
settings.
You
know,
ranging
from
residential
neighborhoods
to
more
mixed-use
neighborhoods
that
accommodate
commercial
and
residential
uses
within
close
proximity.
O
O
That's
gone
into
the
trust
fund
in
the
last
three
or
four
years
is
coming
from
the
high
level
of
development
that
we
have
going
on
in
the
city,
and
so,
if
we
look
at
the
residential
pipeline
residential
development
pipeline
here
on
the
right
side
of
the
screen,
you
see
the
you
know
just
the
amount
of
new
housing
development
that's
happening
in
the
city
that
is
creating
both.
O
O
You
know
we're
looking
at
development
that
supports
multimodal
transit,
we're
really
looking
at
developing
land
use
patterns
that
are
adapting
to
changes
in
demographics,
economics,
technology,
culture
and
climate,
santa
fe.
You
know
we
need
to
design
streets
and
transportation
networks
for
pedestrians
that
promote
a
really
high
quality
of
life.
O
O
The
city
has
been
committed
to
water
conservation
since
the
1970s,
the
conservation
group.
Now
is
you
know
this
last
year
worked
with
santa
fe
county
utilities,
initiated
a
community-informed
planning
study
to
develop
long-range
water
resource
management
plans
extending
out
as
far
as
2100
the
that
process
is
scheduled
to
be
complete
by
the
end
completed
by
the
end
of
2024,
at
which
point
it
will
be
evaluated,
refined,
and
you
know,
additional
planning
cycles
will
be
done
as
necessary
in
future
years.
O
I
think
another
part
of
the
growth
management
plan
is
really
looking
at
it
from
a
regional
perspective.
This
was
something
that
was
identified
in
the
1999
general
plan
and
I
think
it
will
be
crucial
to
any
future
growth
management
plans
is
really
looking
for
opportunities
to
better
coordinate
growth
management
between
the
city
and
the
surrounding
county.
O
You
know,
looking
at
planning
at
the
regional
scale,
increasingly
important
as
our
economic
land
use
and
transportation
patterns
change
over
the
past
previous
decades
and
through
a
regional
planning
approach,
we
can
achieve
a
more
power.
A
more
balanced
pattern
of
growth
for
the
whole
region
is
urban
and
rural
areas
of
our
of
our
region
develop
in
support
of
one
another.
O
So
next
steps
with
the
growth
management
plan
summer
of
21
we'll
be
working
to
draft
the
scope
of
work.
Excuse
me
issue
an
rfp.
You
know
that
this
fall
we'll
evaluate
the
proposals
and
look.
You
know
to
select
a
consultant
team
to
help
us
out,
and
then
you
know
later
this
year
or.
O
Of
next
year
really
start
the
planning
process
with
our
consultant
team,
starting
with
you
know,
existing
condition,
analysis
data
collection
and
then
our
community
engagement
kick
off.
So
with
that,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
questions.
B
Thank
you,
director,
isaacson
for
being
with
us.
If
you
yes,
great,
can
stop
sharing
your
screen.
That's
helpful.
Do
we
have
questions
from
the
committee.
J
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
chair,
thank
you
director,
isaacson
for
being
with
us,
so
I
was.
I
was
reviewing
the
growth
management
section
of
the
99
general
plan
today,
and
one
thing
that
really
struck
me
was
some
of
the
goals
that
had
been
outlined
there
regarding
the
number
of
dwelling
units
that
we
would
be
needing
by
the
year.
2020.
J
O
So
I
don't
have,
I
don't
have
concrete
data
to
provide
an
answer
on
that,
but
my
assumption
based
off
of
historical
information
around
housing
production,
especially
in
the
90s
and
early
2000s,
compared
to
our
population
growth.
O
I
would
assume
that
we
did
not
meet
those
targets
in
terms
of
providing
new
housing
units,
and
I
think
you
know
if
you
read
in
the
growth
management
section
of
the
general
plan.
O
They
talk
about
that
slow
housing
growth
through
much
of
the
90s
and
and
that
continued
in
through
you
know
the
early
2000s
in
through
the
great
recession
to
a
large
extent,
and
so
I
think,
part
of
the
housing
challenges
we
have
now
are
a
result
of
the
lack
of
housing
development
for
you
know
the
past
15
plus
years,
and
it's
only
recently
since
about
2017
that
we've
really
seen
the
amount
of
housing
production.
O
The
city
really
pick
up
and
start
to
meet
the
housing
needs
of
the
community,
and
so
you
know
over
the
last
year.
You
know,
I
think
in
2019
we
had
almost
800
housing
units
built
in
the
city
and
then
right
now
between
units
under
construction
and
the
sort
of
units
in
the
pipeline
through
various
approvals
processes
or
permit
review.
O
You
know
we
have
about
5
000
units
in
the
pipeline
right
now
in
the
city,
so
we're
making
up
for
lost
time,
but
I
think
what
we're
seeing
is
sort
of
that
it
had
had
that
sort
of
housing
production
happen,
sort
of
steadily
through
the
years,
rather
than
sort
of
not
happening
for
a
very
long
time
and
then
seeing
this
large
spike
in
housing
production,
we
might
not
be
experiencing
some
of
the
same
challenges.
We
have
now
around
issues
of
growth
in
the
city
and
sort
of
the
uneven.
A
O
In
the
city,
so
I
think
that
slow
rate
of
development
for
so
long
is
contributing
to
what
we're
dealing
with
now
as
a
community,
and
also
you
know,
supports
the
need
for
the
type
of
work
we're
talking
about
with
the
growth
management
plan.
J
Yeah,
I
think
that's
that's
my
follow-up
question
and
I
and
I
agree
with
you
that
you
know,
based
on
what
we're
seeing,
I
was
guessing
that
the
answer
to
that
question
would
be
no.
We
did
not
meet
those
goals
and-
and
I'm
hoping
that
as
part
of
this
growth
management
plan,
you
know
they
they
had
mentioned.
You
know
these
five-year.
J
This
was
in
the
general
plan,
intro
these
five-year
reviews,
and
then
they
had
set
these
goals
and
that
they
were
going
to
be
reviewed
on
a
five-year
basis
and
as
part
of
this,
this
process
will
we
be
able
to
really
say
every
five
years
based
on
what
we
are
expecting.
We
need
to
be
creating
x,
number
of
housing.
You
know
they
even
said
37
will
need
to
be
low
income
so
that
we
don't
get
into.
I
mean
we
are
in
this
place,
but
that
we
don't
continue
to
make
this
worse.
J
O
O
What
do
we
do
and
I
think
there's
been
a
similar
amount
of
deferred
maintenance
done
over
the
years
in
our
city,
around
long-range
planning
right,
and
so
we
did
a
comp
plan
in
1999
and
then
we
didn't
really
think
about
long-range
planning
for
a
really
long
time
and
now
here
we
are
in
this
moment
really
saying
like
we
really
need
to
re-engage
with
with
the
long-range
planning
program
in
our
city,
and
I
think
that
program
includes
ongoing
evaluation
of
our
planning
efforts,
and
you
know
good
comp
planning
requires.
O
You
know,
updates
on
a
sort
of
five-year
interval
to
test
assumptions
to
evaluate
progress,
to
look
at
opportunities
for
additional
implementation.
O
You
know,
I
think,
one
of
the
things
that
challenges
our
existing
general
plan
is
there's
a
lot
of
really
great
ideas
in
there,
but
something
that
is
sort
of
true
of
many
general
plans
from
that
era.
O
They're
very
light
on
implementation,
and
so
you
have
really
good
ideas
but
you're,
not
given
the
tools
to
actually
achieve
those
goals
and
so
to
be
really
good
at
that
and
and
be
successful
in
that
moving
forward.
It
really
requires
constant
attention
to
your
long-range
planning
documents
to
make
sure
that
you
are
not
only
coming
up
with
good
ideas
but
you're
working
hard
to
implement
those
ideas
in
a
way
that
translates
to
our
built
environment.
J
So
then,
with
that
implementation
plan
piece
that
you're
discussing,
would
that
be
essentially
a
next
step
that
we
would
look
at
after
the
growth?
I
mean
it's
the
growth
management
plan.
We
make
these
assumptions,
we
talk
about
these
goals.
We
talk
about
the
issues
that
we
want
and
then
is
that
the
point
where
we
get
more
prescriptive
and
say
here
are
our
ways
to
get
from
a
to
b.
O
O
But
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
doing
in
land
use
sort
of
concurrent
with
the
la
the
growth
management
planning
process
is
updating
our
land
use
code,
and
so
the
first
step
in
that
process
is
doing
a
code.
Cleanup
right
clarifications,
technical
corrections,
removing
sort
of
pieces
of
the
code
that
might
be
in
conflict
with
one
another
in
preparation
of
then
doing
a
much
more
substantive
update
to
the
land
use
code,
which
would
be
one
of
the
primary
tools
for
implementation
of
the
growth
management,
planning,
recommendations
and
poli.
O
You
know
land
use,
regulation
and
policy
recommendations,
and
so
it's
sort
of
a
multi-step
process
to
really
implement
those
ideas
into
how
the
language
department
does
its
work.
I
think
one
of
the
other
things
that's
really
interesting
about
the
growth
management
plan
process
and
and
how
it's
been
used
in
other
cities
is
to
provide
guidance
to
not
just
the
land
use
department
but
to
other
departments
as
well
right,
so,
whether
it
be
parks,
public
works,
public
utilities,
it
gives
them
some
guidance
on
terms
of
where
their
investments
need
to
be
made.
O
Just
take
a
more
holistic
approach
to
growth
and
development
in
the
city
as
a
whole
and
really
directing
our
resources
as
efficiently
and
as
appropriately
as
possible
moving
forward,
so
that
we're
not
put
in
a
situation
that
many
cities
are
finding
themselves
in
now,
where
they
have
tremendous
amount
of
infrastructure
that
they
can
no
longer
afford
to
maintain
in
service.
And
so
that's
what
traditionally
growth
that
urban
periphery
does
to
a
community,
and
so
by
doing
this
growth
management
planning
process
and
really
looking
inward
as
we
grow.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that.
You,
you
found
another
one
of
my
questions
about
the
interdepartmental
connections
and-
and
I
really
have
been
thinking
about
it.
J
You
know
I
know
you
and
I
have
had
this
discussion
about
access
to
services
and
resources
and
grocery
stores
and
how
a
lot
of
that
is
looking
at
economic
development
and
the
overlap
there
and-
and
I
was
thinking
you
know
it's
interesting-
we
get
these
maps
often
of
where
housing
development
is
happening,
but
it
would
be
really
interesting
to
see
this
with
a
you
know:
commercial
development
overlay
or
where
there
are
commercial
centers,
because
I
know,
for
example,
in
my
district,
where
a
lot
of
the
development
is
happening,
there's
not
much
out
there.
J
I
mean
you,
you
have
to
drive
in
and
it's
not
necessarily
an
easy
drive
or
very
convenient
drive.
You
definitely
couldn't
walk
and
that
definitely
can
it
concerns
me
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
public
transportation
out
there,
and,
and
so
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
part
of
of
growth
management
is
also
because
it's
not
it's
not
just
about
growth.
It's
also
like
how
do
we
connect
the
places
that
we
already
grew
and
how
do
we
integrate
those
components
to
them?
Am
I
correct
that?
O
Think
you're
absolutely
correct
and
I
think
we're
at
a
really
interesting
moment,
because
I
think
we
are
poised
for
a
real
paradigm
shift
in
how
we
think
not
only
about
residential
development,
but
how
we
also
think
about
commercial
development.
So
you
know
the
the
sort
of
brick
and
mortar
was
on
the
decline.
O
Pre-Pandemic
the
pandemics
only
made
that
more
pronounced.
We
now
have
a
really
different
idea
around
what
it
means
to
work
in
an
office,
and
so
you
know
your
traditional
sort
of
office.
Retail
development
may
not
work
anymore
or
may
not
work
in
the
same
way,
and
so
I
think
we're
going
to
see
a
really
moving
forward,
and
I
think
this
is
a
really
interesting
opportunity
for
the
city
of
santa
fe
is
we're.
O
The
lines
I
think
between
what's
been
traditionally
commercial
versus
residential
development,
and
so
I
think
that
the
fact
that
we're
sort
of
starting
this
process
now
is
really
advantageous
for
us
as
a
community,
because
we
get
to
explore
some
of
those
ideas
and
some
of
those
concepts
through
this
process
and
really
identify
new
opportunities
for,
as
I
said
earlier,
really
complete
neighborhood
development
moving
forward.
And
I
don't
think
we've
done
that.
O
Traditionally,
it's
been
very
sort
of
segregated
into
residential
with
a
small
commercial
center
that
serves
large
surrounding
neighborhoods,
and
I
think
the
growth
management
planning
process
will
identify
opportunities
to
really
better
integrate
land
uses
so
that
we're
not
sort
of
in
the
sort
of
residential,
first
commercial
paradigm
that
our
development
has
really
been
focused
on.
For
the
past
20
years.
J
Yeah
yeah,
that
is,
it
is
interesting
to
think
about
how
commercial
development
has
changed.
At
the
same
time,
it
would
caution
us
to
think
about
those
things
that
can't
be
virtual
and
we
want
to
make
sure
people
have
access
to
like
food.
Like
medical
offices
like
dry
cleaning,
you
can't
virtually
dry
clean,
although
that
would
be
really
handy.
You
know
some
of
some
of
those
pieces
that
I
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
lose
and
like
that
community
center
and
how
we,
how
we,
you
know
dive
into
that.
J
Yes,
I
feel,
like
we've
talked
about
this,
you
know
kind
of
a
few
times,
and
this
discussion
of
growth
management
versus
the
general
plan
update.
You
know
you
mentioned
that
we'll
be
really
utilizing
some
of
the
values
or
goals
what
that
was
set
in
the
general
plan
in
1999,
and
they
look
pretty
good.
Have
we
really
looked
at
those
guiding
principles
and
is
there
any
if
we're
not
doing
a
full
general
plan
update
and
we're
not
updating
those
guiding
principles?
O
So
that's
a
great
question.
O
The
existing
general
plan
is
certainly
sort
of
the
jumping
off
point
for
any
future
long-range
planning
efforts
in
the
city,
but
to
your
point
about
testing
values
and
principles
and
and
goals
and
objectives,
I
don't
think
that's
really
appropriate
for
me
to
determine
or
any
one
individual
in
the
city
to
determine
right
and
that's
why
I
think
you
know
I
spoke
a.
O
The
importance
of
public
participation
in
this
planning
process,
because
this
really
needs
to
be
a
reflection
of
the
values,
priorities
and
goals
of
our
of
our
residents,
not
of
any
one
person
in
the
land
just
department
or
on
the
city
council,
or
anything
like
that,
and
so
you
know
the
challenge
is,
then:
how
do
we
create
the
most
inclusive
public
engagement
process
possible,
moving
forward
to
really
get
as
many
voices
and
really
bring
new
new
ideas
and
new
perspectives
into
that
planning
process?
O
That
may
not
have
been
there
in
previous
long-range
plenty
efforts
that
the
city's
done.
So
I
am
trying
I
that
is
going
to
be
one
of
the
big
sort
of
the
big
aha
moments
in
the
sort
of
rfp
process.
Is
we're
really
going
to
reach
out
to
our
consultants
that
that
send
us
proposals
and
really
ask
them
to
tell
us
what
do
you
envision
as
an
effective
public
engagement
process
and
strategy
for
to
support
this
planning
effort,
and
I
think
that
that
is
really
going
to
be
in
many
ways.
O
The
real
sort
of
exciting
aspect
of
the
proposals
that
we
evaluate
is
is
those
respondents
who
can
come
up
with
the
most
interesting
and
innovative
strategies
for
reaching
as
much
of
our
constituency
as
possible.
J
Yeah
yeah
I
and
I
agree
that
it's
definitely
not
something
that
any
one
person
or
even
the
nine
of
us
can
decide
that
it
needs
to
be
a
much
larger
conversation.
So
I'll
look
forward
to
hearing
more
about
that
and
then
in
terms
of
again
comparing
the
growth
management
process
to
the
general
plan
and
the
general
plan
being
our
jumping
off
point
what
what
part
of
the
general
plan
you
know!
O
So
I
think
the
growth
management
planning
process
will
really
sort
of
tease
out
lots
of
different
areas
of
the
general
plan,
and
I
think
the
one
of
the
things
that's
interesting.
If
you
look
at
sort
of
trends
in
professional
planning
and
how
these
plans
are
done,
that
older
plans
used
to
be
sort
of
very
like
topic
based
right.
O
So
you
had
a
chapter
on
this
topic
and
you
had
a
chapter
on
this
topic
and
your
chapter
on
this
topic
and
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
investigation
into
where
those
topics
overlap
with
each
other
and
really
trying
to
leverage
synergies
and
sort
of
up
and
sort
of
opportunities
to
sort
of
get.
O
You
know
you
know
two
for
ones
or
three
for
ones
right
where
you
can
sort
of
different
interventions
that
can
not
only
help
on
the
housing
piece
but
can
also
help
on
the
transit
piece
that
can
also
help
on
the
social
equity
piece
that
can
also
help
on
the
stormwater
management
piece.
And
so
I
think
the
the
one
of
the
goals
of
the
growth
management
plan
will
be
to
really
explore
those
areas
of
overlap
so
that
we
can
really
start
to
make
meaningful
impacts
in
the
city
by
exploring
not
these
topics
necessarily
in
silos.
O
But
these
topics
in
relationship
to
one
another,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
maybe
a
difference
in
just
in
in
how
planning
is
thought
of
now
versus
how
planning
was
approached
20
years
ago.
And
so
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
to
sort
of
leverage,
the
newest
and
best
thinking
around
city
planning
through
this
effort
that
just
wasn't
on
people's
minds
20
years
ago,
when
they
were
doing
these
types
of
projects.
J
And
then
I'm
sorry,
you
gave
me
a
new
term
here
that
I
need
to
research
what'd.
You
say
it
was
form-based.
O
Something
form-based
form-based
overlay.
O
Zones
which
is
actually
not
completely
foreign
to
the
city
in
some
ways,
the
link
overlay
district
is
a
sort
of
form-based
overlay.
O
You
know
we
don't
know,
you
know
we're
still
working
on
the
scope
and
looking
what
the
liberals
deliverables
will
be
from
this
process.
But
you
know
I
anticipate
some
of
the
things.
Some
of
the
outcomes
will
be
identifying
opportunities
for
these
forum
based
overlays,
as
well
as
looking
at
our
future
land
use
map
that
we
currently
have
and
and
updating
that
to
reflect
the
sort
of
infill
opportunities
we
have
in
our
city
to
densify
in
a
smart
way
that
still
preserves
the
essential
character
of
our
city.
J
Wonderful
thank
you
for
that.
You,
you
peaked
my
nerdiness
and
you
know
that
I
will
be
doing
googling
and
then
reaching
out
to
you
to
discuss
new
concepts.
So
I
believe
those
are
all
my
questions.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here.
I
I
really
find
this
this
so
interesting
and
so
integral
to
the
needs
of
our
city.
So
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
be
updated
and
continue
to
have
conversations
on
this
one.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you.
Next
on
the
list,
counselor
garcia.
D
O
Absolutely
thank
you
counselor.
I
absolutely
will
I
kind
of
raced
through
one
slide,
because
I
noticed
some
typos
on
it.
So
if
you
could
give
me
just
an
hour
or
two
in
the
morning
to
tighten
that
up
I'll
send
this
over
first
thing.
D
B
Thank
you,
councilwoman
viarielle,.
E
Medicare,
thank
you,
director,
isaacson,
for
your
presentation,
just
a
few
things
you
mentioned,
and
actually
my
colleague
asked
that
question
about
that
growth
increase
of
10
years
was
that
due
mostly
or
the
majority
of
that
growth
was
due
to
annexation.
That's
absolutely
true
about
13.
000
residents
were
added
into
the
city
because
our
growth
rate-
and
you
didn't
address
this,
but
our
growth
rate
is
actually
closer
to
one
percent
which
is
very
low.
I
don't
know
what
it
is
this
year.
It's
probably
gone
up.
E
The
one
thing
you
mentioned,
or
you
said
that
since
the
1999
general
plan,
we
didn't
think
about
long-range
planning
for
a
long
time,
and
I
actually
disagree.
We
actually
had
a
long-range
planning
team.
They
thought
about
a
lot
of
these
things
and
most
of
your
presentations.
They
had
maps
about
what
the
trends
were.
Looking
like
for
growth,
our
demographic
changes
and,
unfortunately,
at
that
time,
leadership
didn't
necessarily
look
at
that
and
say,
okay.
E
Well
then,
it's
time
to
move
on
to
update
the
general
plan-
and
I
was
thinking
about
different
time
eras
that
happened
when
we
could
have
done
like
a
10-year
update
and
so
2009.
We
had
the
economic
downturn,
so
we
probably
didn't
have
funding
for
that
then
2019
we
had
been
talking
about
it
but
then
covet
hit.
So
there
are
points
it's
not
because
it
was
lack
of
interest,
but
I
think
there
were
times
we
didn't
prioritize
it
obviously
before
your
time
here,
and
so
those
are
the
things
that
made
me
think
yeah.
E
There
are
definite
updates
to
do
that
and
I'm
glad
to
see
it's
going
to
be
happening
and
that
we're
moving
forward
with
this
and
with
rfps
the
one
question
that
comes
up,
I
think
for
a
lot
of
us
from
constituents
is
about
when
we
look
at
managing
growth
and
the
fact
that
we
do
need
housing
units.
How
are
we
balancing
that
out
with
the
limited
water
resources,
and
so
I
think
we
don't
explain
that
well
enough.
E
I
also
think
that
there's
ways
that
we
could
explain
what
we
do,
that
we
are
taking
into
consideration.
So
can
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
what
we
have
in
place
now
with
land
use
and
your
process
for
approving
or
considering
development
proposals?
What
you
all
do
to
consider
to
take
into
consideration
our
finite
water
resources
and
what
and
how
does
staff
look
at
that
when
you're
evaluating
development
proposals.
O
Thank
you,
counselor,
and-
and
I
appreciate
I
appreciate
your
your
initial
comments,
because
I
think
I
was
a
little
flip.
I
don't
think
to
say
that
we
haven't
done
any
long-range
planning
in
the
city
for
a
long
time
is
not
fair
to
those
that
have
worked
in
the
city
prior
to
meeting
our
elected
officials.
So
I
I
appreciate
that
because
I
think
a
lot
of
work
has
gone
into
long-range
planning
where
we,
as
a
community
have
maybe
come
up.
O
A
little
short
is
adopting
those
plans
or,
as
you
said,
prioritizing
that
work
in
a
way
that
that
leads
to
meaningful
updates
to
you,
the
general
general
plan
or
comprehensive
updates
to
our
land
use
code.
Things
like
that,
so
I
do
really
appreciate
that
comment
in
terms
of
water
planning,
water
conservation,
water
resources
in
our
development
proposals.
O
You
know
I'll
echo
what
christine
said
earlier.
There
is
a
conference
going
on
right.
Now.
That's
really
talking
about
these
ideas
of
growth,
water
conservation
and
sort
of
how
do
we
sustain
what
we're
doing
now
in
the
face
of
a
changing
climate?
So
I
encourage
folks
to
attend,
and
actually
myself
and
jason
klug,
the
assistant
landis
director
will
be
participating
on
a
panel
friday
morning
at
11.
O
I
believe
to
talk
about
some
of
this
stuff,
so
those
that
are
interested
should
join
join
that
discussion,
but
specifically
so
on
the
residential
side.
On
the
single-family
residential
side,
we
have
green
building
codes,
a
part
of
which
is
a
worse
rating,
which
I
alluded
to
earlier,
which
is
a
water
efficiency
rating
and
so
on
single
family
development.
O
We
actually
are
doing
a
lot
about
water
conservation,
where
we're
doing
less
is
in
multi-family
construction,
and
so
that's
something
we're
taking
on
this
year,
in
collaboration
with
the
land
use
department,
the
water
division
and
our
sustainable
planner
and
environmental
services.
Neil
denton
so
we'll
be
working
to
bring
some
legislation
forward
later
this
year,
extending
our
green
building
code
out
to
multi-family
construction,
not
just
for
water
efficiency,
but
also
for
energy
efficiency.
O
But
that
being
said,
you
know,
multi-family
development
is
much
more
water
efficient
than
single-family
development,
and
so,
while
we
are
not
necessarily
requiring
a
rating
system
right
now
for
water
efficiency,
those
units
that
are
coming
online,
that
map
that
I
showed
earlier,
which
much
of
that
development
is
multi-family
development,
tends
to
be
more
water
efficient
than
your
standard,
single-family
house,
and
so
we,
I
think
we
are
doing
the
way
we're
growing
now
in
some
ways
is
more
water.
O
We've
grown
in
the
past,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
we
capture
that,
through
some
legislation,
to
make
sure
that
these
new
projects
coming
in
for
approval,
are
providing
us
with
that
efficiency
rating
system
score,
so
that
we
can
confirm
that
these
developments
are
really.
You
know
treating
that
that
precious
precious
resource
carefully.
E
That's
good
to
hear,
and
I
think
yeah
I
think,
that
piece
about
multi-family
construction
and
how
it's
more
water
efficient
is
important
to
explain.
I
don't
think
everybody
understands
that,
but
I
do
think
that
there's
a
needs
to
be
a
way
to
think
about
what
we
need
to
do
and
how
it
relates
to
water
resources
or
limited
water
resources
and
actually
create
procedures
and
policies
within
your
development
process.
That
does
take
that
into
consideration,
because
right
now
isn't
it
just
that
you
all
look
at
paper
water.
O
O
B
Here
so
I
just
want
to
point
to
two
resources.
First,
the
water
conservation
committee
at
its
last
meeting,
which
was
recorded
and
I
believe,
can
be
made
available-
had
a
whole
panel
on
this
whole
line
of
questioning
to
help
understand
this
better
and
to
eli's
point
the
the
the
conference
that's
going
on
right
now.
The
next
generation
water
summit
will
attempt
to
do
that
panel
again
in
maybe
a
shorter
format
and
marcos.
B
Martinez
was
at
the
water
conservation
committee
he's
on
the
recording
and
he
will
be
on
the
panel
at
12
15
on
friday
to
address
that
very
question
that
why
why
people
think
these
are
paper
rights?
They
are
paper
rights
in
the
sense
that
they're
it's
a
legal
right
on
paper,
but
they
do
represent
real
water
and
he
is
very
knowledgeable
about
this.
B
So
I
just
would
direct
you
to
those
two
presentations,
one
coming
up
and
one
that's
been
recorded,
and
I
and
I
agree
we
we
need
to
get
this
information
out,
which
is
part
of
the
reason
why
water
conservation
committee
did
the
presentations
why
we
set
it
up
and
why
this
there
will
be
this
panel
at
the
next
generation
water
summit
on
friday.
So
I
just
wanted
to
interject
that's
great.
E
Thank
you
for
that.
I
think
that
question
comes
up
a
lot.
I
don't
know
how
to
explain
it,
and
so
I'm
always
trying
to
figure
out
like
and
it
does
relate
to
growth
management,
and
so
people
understand
how
what
broader
resources
we
have.
What
that
looks
like
legally,
and
so
I'm
just
flagging
that
as
like
a
piece
of
the
puzzle,
and
it
would
be
great
to
see
that
presentation-
I
didn't
know
about
that.
So
thanks
for
for
sharing
that,
let's
see.
B
While
we're
on
that
point,
if
I
can
just
add
it's
also,
if
you're
in
the
conference
agendas
on
that
afternoon,
there's
apparently
a
national
agenda
and
there's
a
new
mexico
agenda
and
the
panel
that
I
that
we're
speaking
of
is
the
new
mexico
agenda.
So
you
have
to
make
sure
you're
in
the
right
spot.
So
just
I
didn't
realize
that
until
today,
thanks.
E
Say
that
as
a
former
community
planner
that
has
done
this
work,
we
started
a
growth
management
planning
process
for
the
county.
When
I
worked
there
and
we
had
a
lot
of
consultants
that
were
very
interested
in
the
project
and
they
had
a
lot
of
they
use
big
words.
They
use
a
lot
of
jargon
about
how
they
need
planning
best
and
and
for
political
reasons.
E
There
were.
There
was
a
group
that
was
actually
selected
that
didn't
know
anything
about
new
mexico
or
anything
about
our
region,
and
it
was
problematic
and
we
ended
up
having
to
boot
them
out
and
finish
it
as
staff
and
we
finished
the
growth
management
plan.
So
I'm
just
encouraging
you,
as
you
always
know,
I
feel
like
there
are
local
consultants
that
know
our
region.
E
They
know
about
planning
that
we
really
look
to
give
preference
to
those
teams
that
know
what
what
we're
dealing
with
here
and
haven't
have
had
experience
working
in
new
mexico
and
northern
new
mexico.
I
just
don't
want
to
see
consultants
from
out
of
state
thinking
that
they
know
how
to
even
do
community
engagement.
So
you
already
know
how
I
feel
about
this.
I
always
state
this,
and
so
I
just
want
to
publicly
say
it
again.
I
know
we
have
expertise,
there's
a
lot
of
consulting
and
contracted
teams
that
do
great
work
in
mexico.
E
So
that's
all!
Oh
one
more
thing:
there
was
a
slide
that
you
put
produced
about
the
different
demographic
shifts
and
I
I
was
trying
to
look
at
it,
but
you
you
went
past
it
quickly
and
they
look
like
the
same
map,
but
I'm
not
sure
so,
maybe
before
we
don't
have
to
look
at
it
now,
but
maybe
you
could
look
at
it.
The
color
scheme
looked
the
same,
even
though
we
know
the
numbers
have
shifted
dramatically
in
terms
of
demographic
changes
and
for
the
city.
O
The
blues:
it's
it's
subtle!
You
really
have
to
look
at
it
pretty
closely,
but
I'll
confirm
that
they
are
in
fact
different
different
snapshots,
but
it's
just
a
subtle.
If
you
look
at
it
closely,
it's
sort
of
a
subtle
shift
that
shows
this
sort
of
gradual
ray
of
our
population
through
most
of
our
census
tracts.
Just
you
know,
as
we
go
step
step,
step
darker
and
that
being
a
few
showing
a
higher
concentration
of
residents
overseas.
E
And
then
I
would,
if
you
could
send
us
the
links
on
our
website.
We
actually
have
some
great
data
that
are
when
we
had
long-range
planning
staff.
They
did
trends
and
maps
and
really
cool
visuals
about
where
we're
going
with
growth,
and
there
were
some.
I
think
there
might
have
even
been
some
recommendations,
but
it
was,
it
was
helpful
to
use
it
probably
is
a
little
outdated
now,
but
can
you
find
that
link
for
us?
O
Land
use
webs
the
land
use
webpage
under
long
range
planning,
and
that
document
was
called
santa
fe
trends.
O
The
last
report
was
produced,
I
believe
in
2016.,
but
you
know
it's
kind
of
off
topic
off
topic,
but
we
are
looking
to
hire
a
planner
in
land
use
as
part
of
this
new
budget,
using
the
impact
fee
funds
to
manage
our
ifcip,
which
is
our
impact-based
capital
improvement
plan,
and
part
of
that.
I
would
like
that
individual
to
also
sort
of
start
to
produce
a
version
of
that
trends
report.
O
It
may
not
be
the
exact
same
report,
but
something
analogous
to
that
as
part
of
the
work
in
maintaining
the
ifcip,
so
hopefully
in
the
next
year
or
so
we'll
be
getting
back
in
the
habit
of
producing
the
sort
of
annual
report
for
the
city,
about
growth
trends
happening
and,
and
those
reports
then,
will
feed
into
this
sort
of
five-year
planning
interval
that
we
discussed
earlier
in
terms
of
evaluating
where
we
may
need
to
re
revisit
in
the
growth
management
plan
or
the
general
plan,
whatever
it
might
be,
as
we're
kind
of
constantly
updating
our
long-range
planning
goals.
E
B
Okay,
great
councilor,
garcia,
your
hand
is
up.
Are
you
still
have
questions.
B
Okay
old
hand
great,
so
I
just
want
to
give
one
more
plug
the
next
generation
watersummit.com.
You
can
still
register
and
there
were
some
presentations
today
that
are
available
on
demand.
I
think
for
the
next.
I
don't
know
20
days
or
something.
So,
even
if
you
register
now
it's
free
to
city
and
county
residents,
you
can
go
back
and
on
demand
watch
some
of
the
presentations
that
happened
today
again,
I
think
there'll
be
a
very
interesting
panel
at
12
15
on
friday.
B
That
eli
is
participating
in
and
we'll
be
talking
about.
Some
of
these
same
same
things,
growth
management,
water
resource
planning
and
how
all
this
all
fits
together
and
and
to
your
point,
councilwoman
via
real
help,
starting
to
help
develop
some
of
the
public
understanding
about
the
work.
That's
going
on
and
answering
the
public's
questions
that
have
certainly
we've
all
been
getting
about:
growth
and
water
and
how?
How
do
we
make
this
all
work?
So
again,
I
just
wanted
to
give
that
plug
eli.
Thank
you.
B
So
much
for
being
here
tonight
fascinating.
I,
like
councilwoman,
cassette
very
interested
in
this
topic.
I
think
a
lot
of
us
are
and
really
interesting
stuff.
So
thank
you
for
for
giving
us
kind
of
this
preliminary
presentation
about
you
know
coming
attractions.
I
really
appreciate
it.
O
My
pleasure,
my
pleasure,
I
look
forward
to
coming
back
and
and
providing
more
updates
through
the
procurement
process
for
the
growth
management
plan.
B
Great,
we
will
put
you
on
our
list
with
that.
We
are
done
with
our
presentations.
We
can
go
to
matters
from
staff.
Jennifer,
do
you
have
anything
tonight?
The
only
thing.
C
B
Matters
from
the
committee
no
matters
from
the
committee
matters
from
the
chair,
our
next
meeting,
wednesday
june
16th,
but
I
know
we'll
be
getting
together
before
then
so
very
interesting
conversation
tonight.
Thank
you
all
really.
I
think
interesting
how
all
the
things
on
our
agenda,
you
know,
sort
of.
What's
the
right
word,
connect
overlap.