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B
Thank
you
at
five
o'clock.
I
will
call
the
meeting
what
date
is
today,
the
july
7th
meeting
of
the
quality
of
life
committee
to
order
and
if
we
can
get
a
roll
call
for
attendance,
jennifer
sure.
E
E
B
B
B
A
B
Yes,
all
right
now
we
move
to
approval
of
the
consent
agenda.
Are
there
changes
to
the
consent
agenda
from
staff?
None
from
staff?
Madam
chair,
all
right
are
there
items
that
the
committee
would
like
to
hear
this
evening.
B
B
All
right,
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda
as
amended
and
if
we
could
take
a
roll
call
again
sorry,
madam
chair,
can
you
say
who
got
that
second
yeah,
I
think,
was
councillor
rivera
and
made
the
second
and
councillor
cassette
made.
The
motion
got.
A
B
Yes,
thank
you.
Okay,
approval
of
the
minutes
june
16th,
2021
quality
of
life
committee.
Are
there
changes
to
the
minutes
from
staff,
none
from
staff
any
from
the
committee?
Is
there
a
motion
move
to
approve?
Second,
we
have
a
motion
from
councilwoman
via
real
to
approve
the
minutes.
We
have
a
second
from
councillor
cassid.
If
we
could
take
a
vote
on
the
approval
of
the
june
16th
minutes.
D
D
B
Yes,
all
right,
we
have
two
presentations
tonight.
The
first
one
is
about
behavioral
health
at
the
city
and
county,
and
we
have
director
ochoa
with
us
to
make
that
presentation.
Welcome
and
thank
you
for
being
here.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
quality
of
life
committee.
I'm
happy
to
be
here
to
present
with
this
topic
tonight
with
rachel
o'connor
who's,
the
director
of
the
community
services
department
for
the
county
and
because
the
county
has
been
sort
of
planning
and
mobilizing
around
behavioral
health.
Now,
for
the
last
I
would
say
five
years
or
more
I'd
like
rachel
to
begin
and
follow
her
presentation.
G
Thank
you
kyra,
madam
chair
fellow
counselors,
rachel
o'connor
from
the
community
services
department.
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
us
here
today
and
I'm
going
to
start
by
attempting
to
share
my
screen
and
talk
with
you
a
little
bit,
let's
see
about
what's
happening
at
the
county
with
regard
to
behavioral
health,
some
of
the
groundwork
that
we
laid
in
some
of
our
current
projects.
Are
you
all
able
to
see
that
presentation?
G
Okay,
thank
you!
So
I'm
going
to
start
by
talking
about
the
lasalle
center,
because
it's
really
prominent
in
my
mind.
Right
now
and
I
interested.
E
We
have
a
question:
yes,
can
you
make
it
a
full
screen
for
us
instead
of
seeing
the
panels
on
the
side,
if
you
could
do
the.
F
If
you
hit
the
slide,
show
tab
rachel
at
the
top
on
the
far
left
of
your
screen,
yeah,
and
then
you
say
from
the
beginning,
you'll
or
from
current
slide.
F
H
G
Okay,
now,
if
I
can
just
figure
out
how
to
get
what
from
one
slide
to
the
next
I'll
be
in
good
shape.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
sticking
with
me
through
that
awkward
moment.
G
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
history
of
behavioral
health
in
santa
fe
county
because
we
really
started
in
2014
and
we
partnered
with
krista
st
vinson
to
develop
a
needs
assessment
and
the
needs
assessment
was
for
santa
fe
county
and
what
we
looked
at
is
through
a
whole
process
of
interviewing
people
and
professionals
and
organizations
across
the
county.
What
is
it
that
we
really
need
and
the
response
to
that
was
overwhelmingly.
G
We
are
looking
at
the
need,
an
overwhelming
need
really
at
that
time
for
behavioral
health
services
and,
if
all
of
you
can
think
back
to
2011
2012
2013.
G
Based
on
the
outcome
of
that
we
developed
a
health
action
plan
and
that
health
action
plan
prioritized
for
us
how
santa
fe
county
was
going
to
spend
money
related
to
health
services,
and
that
really
was
a
tremendous
time
of
growth
between
2014
and
2016,
because
there
were
massive
changes
at
the
state
level
with
regard
to
how
counties
spent
indigent
funds
and
with
that
reform,
the
county
went
from
being
an
entity
that
paid
bills
to
being
an
entity
that
could
plan
towards
addressing
specific
health
indicators.
G
So
in
2016
the
county
held
a
behavioral
health
summit
to
look
at
what
was
necessary
to
do
that
and
we
started
by
funding
a
mobile
crisis
team
and
santa
fe
county
actually
funded
mobile
crisis,
starting
in,
I
believe,
2016,
with
a
contract
with
presbyterian
medical
services
for
the
development
and
operation
of
a
mobile
crisis
team
that
could
work
hand
in
hand
with
law
enforcement
in
addressing
behavioral
health
issues.
G
Out
of
the
behavioral
health
summit
came
a
request
from
the
community
to
fund
a
crisis
center
and
the
county
acted
quite
quickly
after
that,
in
2016,
the
voters
approved
a
capital
bond
and
in
2017
the
board
of
county
commissioners
approved
a
1
8
grt
with
funds
to
operate
a
crisis
center.
G
We
immediately
released
a
request
for
proposals
that
for
a
two-phase
project,
one
is
development
and
planning
which
for
us
lasted
several
years
of
a
crisis
center
and
the
second
was
full
operation
and
I'm
happy
to
say
that
at
the
end
of
july
we
will
be
kicking
off
the
lasalla
center.
G
So
the
lasalla
center
really
is
a
hybrid
living
room
crisis
center.
It
is.
It
includes
a
detox
service,
that's
provided
by
santa
fe
recovery
center
that
occupies
half
the
building.
It
doubles
santa
fe
county's
capacity
to
treat
people
with
detox
services.
It
also
thanks
to
the
recovery
center,
christa,
st
vincent
and
santa
fe
county,
as
well
as
ancorum.
St
vincent
allows
santa
fe
recovery
center
to
move
from
providing
detox
services
through
a
social
model
to
to
doing
medically
managed
detox.
G
So
it's
a
significant
boost
up
in
our
capacity
that
half
or
that
phase
of
the
crisis
center
opened
a
week
ago.
We
will
be
opening
the
end
of
july,
the
second
half,
which
is
the
living
room
model.
It's
a
hybrid
crisis
service
center,
it's
called
lasalla.
G
We
also
are
going
to
be
providing
things
like
pharmacy,
so
if
we
have
somebody
who
is
no
longer
operating
well
because
they
are
off
their
medication,
we
can
address
that
issue.
We
offer
counseling.
There
will
be
peer
support.
G
There
is
a
specific
law
enforcement
entrance
so
that
we
can
work
productively
with
law
enforcement,
as
well
as
the
hospital
to
try
to
reduce
the
number
of
people
that
are
coming
in
to
our
ers
and
to
our
jail
system,
with
hopes
that
we
can
stabilize
people
in
a
significant
way.
G
I
want
to
say
that
the
center
is
not
24
7,
it
is.
It
has
24
7
capacity,
so
the
center
is
going
to
be
opening
its
first
phase,
where
we're
hoping
to
run
from
10
in
the
morning
until
midnight
six
days
a
week.
G
If
we
have
people
who
come
in
off
hours,
we
will
be
able
to
address
that
through
mobile
crisis
and
people
can
be
brought
to
the
center
on
the
office
in
order
to
stabilize
so
that
program
is
really
one
of
the
biggest
things
we're
doing
in
santa
fe
county,
but
not
the
only
thing
after
we
started
getting
funding
for
the
crisis
center.
G
We
also
did
a
gap
analysis
that
was
completed
by
pam
hyde,
who's,
the
former
director
of
samsa,
and
we
started
to
fund
other
programs
and
continue
to
find
creative
ways
to
fund
other
programs.
So
I
wanted
to
just
present
briefly
on
some
of
the
other
things
that
we
are
doing
in
behavioral
health,
so
substance
use
disorders.
G
We
are
looking
at.
We
provide
funding
for
residential
and
outpatient
treatment
through
the
santa
fe
recovery
center,
we're
the
only
per
provider
who
are
the
only
entity
that
funds
residential
services,
but
we
still
continue
to
believe
that
there
is
a
certain
segment
that
do
better
on
a
residential
basis.
G
G
We
also
have
a
team
that
works
out
of
the
fire
department
and
the
community
services
department
to
do
follow-up
on
people
that
have
experienced
a
drug
overdose.
They'll
be
working
hand-in-hand
with
our
lead
team.
G
Other
things
that
we
fund
in
terms
of
specific
substance,
abuse
disorders,
we
fund
medication,
assisted
treatment,
a
law
familia,
although
it's
not
on
the
slide.
We
we
fund
harm
reduction,
we've
also
funded
jail,
re-entry
out
of
the
jail
in
terms
of
people
that
are
specifically
tasked
with
trying
to
reintegrate,
particularly
people
with
significant
behavioral
health
issues
back
into
the
community.
G
The
next
slide,
I'm
not
going
to
be
labor
too
much,
because
I
know
that
director
ochoa
will
go
over
the
connect
program,
but
the
two
big
programs
that
we've
really
rolled
out
in
the
past
three
years
would
be
the
lasalla
center
and
the
connect
program.
The
county
started.
This
funding
really
based
on
observations
and
input
from
cara.
G
G
So
just
starting
this
fiscal
year,
which
started
just
this
week,
we
started
a
youth
services
division
at
the
community
services
department
at
the
county.
We
just
hired
our
first
director
chanel
delgado,
and
we
did
this
really
because
of
a
real
interest
coming
from
the
commissioners
in
youth
related
services
and
it
started
out
as
recreational
services.
When
I
first
came
to
the
county,
it
has
morphed
into
services
that
impact
those
areas
of
the
health
action
plan
that
I
talked
about
earlier.
So
we
fund
all
kinds
of
prevention.
G
G
Santa
fe
county
was
really
pleased
to
help
team
builders
get
up
and
running.
We
expect
to
be
releasing
more
rfps
this
year
to
expand.
G
You
know
what
is
an
incredible
gap
in
access
to
services
to
behavioral
health
services
for
teens,
and
then
I
just
want
to
talk
briefly
about
some
of
the
things
that
I
see
coming
in
the
future.
G
G
We
have
a
leadership
team
that
the
county
created
in
order
to
try
to
align
better
services
for
people
that
and
families.
Frankly,
who
need
support
in
behavioral
health,
we're
looking
at
doing
some
kind
of
pilot
and
peer
support,
because
the
most
recent
research
tells
us
that
peers
are
often
more
effective
at
addressing
behavioral
health
issues
and,
of
course,
the
expansion
of
youth
behavioral
health
funding
is
upcoming,
and
I
I
just
want
to
close
with
one
thought,
and
that
is
you
know.
G
But
we
have
a
whole
new
wave
of
challenges
that
have
come
out
relative
to
covet
and
the
outcomes
of
kovid.
G
Some
of
the
things
that
we're
facing
now
is
we've
started
a
lot
of
new
programs,
both
the
city
and
the
county,
and
trying
to
coordinate
and
align
those
programs
like
the
the
teams
that
kyra's
going
to
talk
about
in
coordination
with
our
with
our
mobile
crisis
team
and
I'm
I'm
pleased
to
say,
that's
working
quite
nicely.
G
Coordination
of
the
thrive
program
with
our
team.
In
terms
of
lead
programs,
you
know
we
had
a
lot
of
new
services.
G
We've
kicked
off
in
the
past
year
and
a
half,
and
I
think
our
challenge
now
is
to
make
sure
that
those
teams
are
working
together
as
efficiently
as
they
can
in
in
stabilizing
folks
and
hopefully
bringing
us
to
a
place
that
supports
better
behavioral
health
overall
for
people
that
are
in
crisis,
the
other
the
last
thing
and-
and
then
I
promise
to
quit
talking
is
that
oh
gosh,
it
just
skipped
out
my
mind,
but
oh
yes,
we're
seeing
significant
workforce
challenges
more
so
than
ever.
G
G
I
had
a
friend
who
tried
to
get
services
for
her
daughter
who
was
experiencing
a
behavioral
health
crisis.
She
called
35
counselors
and
was
unable
to
get
her
daughter
into
service.
So
some
of
these
access
issues
have
really
been
exacerbated
by
covid
and
I
think
we're
starting
kind
of
with
the
clean
slate
of
tremendous
resource
capacity
here.
B
Thank
you
and
thank
you.
Thank
you,
rachel
o'connor
for
being
here.
I
didn't
mean
to
not
announce
that
you
were
part
of
the
presentation
team.
I
think
I
I
was
relying
too
heavily
on
the
agenda,
so
my
apologies
no
problem.
Thank
you.
If
you
would
stop
sharing
your
screen
and
then
I
don't
know
director
ochoa
did
you.
B
F
F
Messy
desktop,
but
here
we
go
so
in
terms
of
our
our
behavioral
health
initiatives
at
the
city.
You
know
for
for
a
long
time,
the
community
services
department,
also
under
under
the
previous
director,
and
really
the
incredible
work
that
youth
and
family
services
director
julie
sanchez,
has
done
to
incorporate
results-based
accountability
into
the
the
contracts
that
come
out
of
the
children,
youth,
commission
and
the
human
services
committee.
F
The
strategic
plans
in
both
of
those
commission
that
commission
and
that
committee
have
long
identified
behavioral
health
as
a
as
a
primary.
You
know
issue
that
that
santa
fe,
the
city
of
stamp,
needs
to
address
whether
it's
youth,
you
know
substance,
use,
disorder
or
suicide
or
adult
behavioral
health
needs.
As
rachel
said,
the
all
of
the
data
and
all
of
the
needs
assessment
point
heavily
to
this
as
an
area
that
we've
needed
to
invest
in
and
have
invested
in
at
the
city.
F
Right
now,
with
the
excuse
me,
the
creation
of
the
community
health
and
safety
department,
I
thought
I'd
just
give
an
overview
of
under
our
department
and
in
partnership
with
some
others.
What's
going
on
in
the
realm
of
behavioral
health.
F
So
obviously,
under
fire
and
police
we've
got
a
number
of
initiatives
that
you're
aware
of
we
have
our
crisis
intervention
training.
I
F
The
santa
fe
police
department
invested
heavily
in
ensuring
that
the
entire
workforce
received
intensive
crisis,
intervention,
training
and
de-escalation
and
trauma-informed
response,
and
this
year
the
fire
department,
myself
included,
will
be
undergoing
a
three-day
training
around
the
same
training
that
the
police
department
has
engaged
in
tailored
to
fire.
F
So
that
means
that
our
entire
public
safety
workforce
is
trained
in
handling
behavioral
health
in
the
field,
and
we
also,
as
you
know,
have
our
mobile
integrated
health
office,
which
began
doing
work
with
high
utilizers
and
has
morphed
into
being
primarily
an
opia
opiate
outreach
team,
similar
to
one
that
rachel
referred
to
at
the
county
coupe.
F
That
follows
up
with
folks
that
have
had
an
opiate
overdose
and
counsels,
both
them
and
their
families
in
terms
of
future
overdose
prevention
and
harm
reduction,
naloxone
distribution
and
case
management.
Just
today,
the
municipal
court
asked
where
they
could
get
naloxone
and
miho.
You
know
was
on
the
scene
immediately
giving
naloxone
and
preparing
to
give
training,
but
they
also,
as
you
know,
continue
to
informally
do
some
outreach
to
folks
in
crisis
and
in
the
field
who
are
unsheltered,
although
that's
not
their
primary
focus.
F
F
In
the
new
fiscal
year,
we'll
add
a
new
team
and
by
the
fall
we
expect
to
be
able
to
add
a
13
to
be
out
five
days
a
week
in
the
peak
hours
which,
in
the
behavioral
health
world
are
often
actually
about
10
to
8
pm
10
to
6
p.m.
F
We
also
have
our
thrive
program,
which
is
our
lead
program,
which
started
many
years
back
where
the
mijo
folks
are
also
providing
case
management
to
clients
that
pd
diverts
to
them
for
non-violent
crimes
that
were
driven
by
unmet
behavioral
health
needs
and
then
finally,
we
have
our
contract
with
solace,
crisis,
treatment,
center
for
domestic
violence
and
sexual
assault
coordinators,
who
provide
care
to
victims
and
assist
the
special
victims
unit.
F
So
really
our
public
safety
departments,
fire
and
police
have
a
solid
footing
in
behavioral
health
interventions
that
we
can
build
upon
in
community
services.
Rachel
mentioned
connect
all
of
the
contracts
that
we
now
have
almost
all
of
the
contracts
coming
out
of
human
services
and
the
children
and
youth
commission
are
really
considered
connect
contracts.
F
They
they
fund
both
navigation
and
at
sometimes
direct
services.
So
some
of
the
ones
that
I've
pulled
out
here
and
hot
to
highlight
are
the
ones
all
of
them
are
doing.
Navigation,
which
means
assessing
for
social
needs,
housing.
Food
transportation
needs
by
the
way.
One
of
the
evaluation
measures
in
connect
is:
did
that
individual?
Did
we
save
them
from
going
to
the
emergency
room?
Did
we
prevent
them
from
going
to
jail?
F
And
so
we
measure
that-
and
that
is
a
that-
is
a
goal
of
the
connect
program
overall
and
we
are
seeing
some
interesting
development.
You
know
data
coming
out
around
the
prevention
of
acute
crises,
for
this
population
being
served
and
connect.
Anyhow,
the
direct
services
that
are
provided
through
connect
for
us
at
the
city
and
the
adult
world
are
done
at
a
saint
elizabeth's
shelter
where
on-site
counseling
service
are
coupled
with
navigation
at
lifelink.
On-Site
navigation
really
includes
behavioral
health
intervention
in
in
the
same
breath.
F
If
you
will,
in
the
youth
world,
we've
invested
heavily
in
behavioral
health
for
a
long
time.
Our
programs
at
gerard's
house
brief
services
for
children
at
the
sky
center
new
mexico
suicide
intervention,
parent
involvement
program,
which
is
a
cyfd
and
cyc
funded
program
for
youth
and
parenting
groups,
youth
shelters
and
family
services,
where
homeless,
youth
get
support,
services
that
include
counseling
at
casa,
esperanza,
children
and
youth
in
the
shelter
receive
bilingual
counseling
through
city
funded
contracts
and
in
coordination
with
the
county.
F
These
are
not
contracts
yet,
but
we'll
be
we're
working
with
them
on
their
team
builders
project
and
we're
doing
that
in
coordination
with
the
santa
fe
public
schools,
which
is
bringing
back
a
much
needed
behavioral
health
resource
for
youth
in
the
community.
F
So
thanks
to
the
county
for
their
leadership
on
that,
as
well
in
terms
of
restorative
justice,
we're
looking
at
expanding
some
of
those
programs
using
both
children,
youth,
commission
and
some
cyfd
funds
that
we
have
this
year
and
that
will
be
by
rfp
over
three
years
from
now
into
the
next
three
years
of
these
contracts,
we're
seeing
that
we're
investing
at
the
city
about
1.8
million
in
in
the
course
of
three
years
in
behavioral
health
services
to
adults
and
youth
in
the
community
services
department.
F
We
also
are
looking
at
homeless
response,
which
very
much
goes
hand
in
hand
with
people
that
are
suffering
from
behavioral
health
issues.
We
obviously
fund
emergency
shelter,
services
at
interfaith
and
navigation.
Our
built
for
xero
project
is
we
have
a
small
contract.
F
F
Of
services
and
in
including
going
out
and
the
team
will
go
out
into
arroyos
and
parks
to
meet
with
folks
that
are
out
there
to
try
to
get
them
connected
with
services.
We
invite
you
to
apply
domestic
violence,
gap,
analysis
and
plan.
I
think
that's
sort
of
coupled
with
what
we've
done
in
police
and
fire
we
want
to
look
at.
Where
are
the
gaps
and
services
for
folk
service
experiencing
domestic
violence?
F
We
know,
for
example,
that
you
know
it's
great,
the
counseling
services
that
people
can
see
receive
when
they're
sheltered
at
esperanza,
but
there
really
is
a
gap
for
people
who
aren't
at
esperanza
for
both
adults,
women
primarily
and
their
children,
because
of
a
lack
of
as
rachel
mentioned
workforce,
and
this
is
a
very
specialized
kind
of
counseling
that
people
need
to
receive,
as
well
as
the
fact
that
it's
not
always
possible
to
pay
for
these
services,
with
insurance
with
medicaid
and
other
insurance
because
of
privacy
issues.
F
We
are
seeing
also
that
it's
really
important
that
we're
coordinating
closely
with
the
affordable
housing
department
at
the
city
in
terms
of
our
our
work
with
consuela's
place,
the
midtown
shelter
and
what's
going
on
there.
Community
services
is
not
funding
any
services
there.
Affordable
housing
is,
but
anna
kale
is
essentially
the
contract
manager
for
consuelo's
place,
with
her
expertise
on
emergency
shelter,
and
so
that's
been
a
useful
collaboration.
F
Then
we
want
to
call
out
in
quorum,
st
vincent
and
the
partnership
that
we're
engaging
in
with
them
around
housing.
They
have
something
called
the
sv3
initiative,
which
is
essentially
looking
at
permanent
supportive
housing
for
people
with
behavioral
health
needs,
the
hospital
and
the
county,
and
the
city
obviously
have
a
vested
interest
in
ensuring
that
people
with
behavioral
health
disorders
are
not
showing
up
in
the
jails
and-
and
you
know,
flooding
the
emergency
room
which
they
currently
are
and
what
other
alternatives
do
they
need?
F
Besides
the
crisis
center,
which
is
going
to
be
a
huge
benefit
to
the
community
they're,
they
also
need
places
to
live
and
places
where
they
can
get
the
supports
they
need
in
their
housing
and
then,
of
course,
we're
looking
at
our
encampment
situation,
which
is
extremely
up
right
now,
and
the
community
services
department
is
currently
engaged
in
coordinating
with
other
city
departments,
a
city-wide
encampment
response.
F
This
is,
in
the
homeless
response
realm,
a
total
investment
of
over
1.4
million
over
the
next
three
years.
If,
if
not
more,
if
we
can
get
more
in,
we
will
put
more
in
and
then.
Finally,
I
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
mention
the
direct
services
that
we
provide
in
community
services
and
in
recreation,
which
in
many
ways
fall
on
the
continuum
of
in
the
in
the
bucket
of
prevention,
libraries.
I
I
have
to
call
out,
because
we
don't
have
day
drop-in
centers
in
santa
fe
right
now.
F
As
unsheltered
people
and
the
libraries
are
essentially
functioning
that
way
or
have
been,
we've
seen
an
increase
in
people
on
streets
during
the
day,
because
the
libraries
are
closed,
I'm
not
suggesting
that
the
library
should
serve
this
purpose.
Always
I
think
we
do
need
other
services,
but
the
fact
is
they
have
they
do,
and
our
librarians
who
staffed
the
midtown
shelter
during
the
pandemic
are
very
good
in
working
with
populations
that
have
behavioral
health
needs,
our
senior
programs.
F
F
You
know
socialization
in
the
form
of
programs
and
congregate
meals,
our
homemaker
in
respite
programs,
which
allow
people
to
stay
in
their
homes
and
live
independently
as
long
as
they
can
provide
support
to
very
stressed
family
members,
and
then
our
retired
senior
volunteer
program
in
which
an
incredible
workforce
of
seniors
who
still
want
to
give
back
to
their
communities,
some
of
whom
are
low-income,
will
go
into
programs
like
you
know
our
youth,
our
youth,
behavioral
health
services,
programs
in
the
schools
or
you
know,
pete's
place
or
savings,
and
and
give
their
time
to
make
sure
that
some
of
these
needs
are
met.
F
F
It
sometimes
happens
that
these
programs
can
really
turn
kids
around
when
they're
in
a
period
of
maybe
experimenting
with
things
they
shouldn't
experiment
with.
We
just
had
a
collaboration
between
the
summer
program
and
the
police
department,
where
some
of
the
youth
were
caught
drinking
beer
and
we
had
the
police
come
out
and
give
them
a
talking
to,
and
you
know
that's
an
example
of,
hopefully
an
early
intervention
that
can
prevent
some
of
these
long-term
issues
that
we're
seeing
require
heavy
heavy
investment
down
the
line.
F
So
that's
a
quick
overview
of
the
things
that
community
health
and
safety
is
doing
in
regards
to
behavioral
health,
and
with
that
I
think
I'll.
Stop
sharing
and
rachel,
and
I
can
stand
for
your
questions.
B
Terrific
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
those
ten
thousand
foot
presentations
about
a
a
wide
range
of
work.
That's
being
done
both
of
the
city
and
the
county
very
interesting.
Do
we
have
questions
for
either
presenter
from
the
committee.
B
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
director,
o'connor,
for
presenting
about
what's
happening
in
the
county.
E
I
used
to
work
for
the
county,
so
it's
great
to
see
how
things
are
progressing
and
how
things
are
shifting
now
that
lasalla
center
will
be
open.
I
think
that's
it's
going
to
be
a
busy
place,
there's
a
lot
of
needs
and
that's
pretty
much.
The
one
of
the
few
remaining
or
one
place
I
feel
like
actually
has
will
have
service
versus
other
service
providers
that
have
come
and
gone
in
the
in
the
region
in
our
county.
So
I'm
excited
to
hear
about
that.
I
know
the
mobile
crisis
unit.
E
Its
first
iteration
was
highly
successful.
There
was
a
lot
of
interaction
with
public
with
the
public
that
were
experiencing
crisis,
and
then
there
was
a
shift
in
who
who
led
that,
and
so
there
was
some.
I
don't
know
the
iteration
of
like
what
happened,
and
ultimately
there
was
a
period
of
time
where
it
didn't
run
smoothly.
E
So
I'm
excited
to
hear
about
it
that
it's
part
of
the
overall
center
support
and
I'm
curious
if
there's
how
it
could
possibly
intersect
with
some
of
the
support
we
need
in
the
city
and
if
there's
a
some
kind
of
plan
for
or
intersection
or
partnership,
part
partnership
with
city
or
how
that
will.
What
will
that
look
like?
Because
I
think
we
are
in
serious
need
of
that.
Just
for
the
city,
and
so
I
know
it's
the
county,
county's
huge
people
don't
understand
that
it
takes
an
hour
to
go
south
in
the
county.
E
It's
a
big
county.
So
how
do
you
see
that
partnership
or
relationship
developing.
G
So,
madam
chair
counselor,
that's
a
an
excellent
question.
In
fact,
we
just
had
that
on
our
agenda
for
the
leadership
team.
The
majority
of
our
calls
are
coming
come
from
the
city,
as
you
know,
because
it's
the
most
populous
area
and
the
mobile
crisis
team
that
new
mexico
solutions
is
now
running,
is
responding
to
a
lot
of
city.
Calls
now
we're
in
wave
one
of
this
pandemic
and
both
kieran
and
I
had
have
had
some
conversations
around
that.
G
But
the
alternative
response
unit
is
calling
in
mobile
crisis
on
cases
where
there's
someone
with
a
significant
behavioral
health
issue,
and
both
teams
have
felt
that
that
partnership
is
working
incredibly
well,
and
so
we
feel
that
the
opportunity
to
partner
is
is
being
established.
Right
now
is
going
smoothly
and
will
continue
to
go
smoothly.
G
I
think
the
one
thing
that
I
would
ask
for
is
is
some
patients
in
our
ability
to
get
up
and
running.
G
We
are
now
responding
on-site
to
certain
constituencies,
including
the
city
alternative
response
unit
and,
for
example,
people
that
come
in
through
nami
or
people
coming
from
law
enforcement
and
as
soon
as
the
crisis
center
opens
up.
We'll
be
starting
phase,
two
of
that
opening,
and
by
september
we
expo.
We
expect
to
have
the
full
array
of
services
running,
but
we
definitely
both
kara
and,
I
think
recognize
the
need
for
partnership
in
that
area
and
are
committed,
as
well
as
the
teams
from
new
mexico
solution
and
from
the
city
are
committed
as
well.
E
Yes,
I
see
that
connection
going
to
be
very
important
and
maybe
later
on,
we
can
have
a
presentation
about
how
that's
how
that's
going,
how
how
the
communication
works.
I'm
always
curious
like
how
things
get
passed
down
and
how
aru
gets
activated-
and
I
know
dispatch
has
a
role,
but
there's
still
this
piece
that
I
think
I'm
not
quite
clear
understanding
how
it,
how
it's
fluid
or
how
it's
efficient.
E
So
that
will
be
my
interest
in
the
future,
how
the
mobile
crisis
center
interacts
with
aru
and
dispatch
and
then
also
mijo
and
and
our
other
programs,
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
you
all
are
starting
a
lead
program
and
hopefully
some
of
the
miss
you
know
the.
I
would
call
them
missteps
or
missed
opportunities
for
us
for
lead
when
we
started
it
just
to
have
those
learning
moments
that
will
help
you
all
develop
it
yeah.
E
I
think
that
would
be
great
to
to
make
that
connection
and
also
just
making
sure
that
law
enforcement
is
in
that
process.
You
know
our
our
lead
program
used
to
be
in
the
police
department.
Now
it's
under
the
umbrella
of
fire,
and
so
I'm
still
of
the
mindset
that
police
really
need
to
be
part
of
that
process
of
lead
and
making
recommendations
or
in
doing
that
intervention
piece.
E
So
I'm
curious
where
you
all
how
you
all
see
that,
as
for
the
county
sheriff's
and
their
role
in
in
your,
I
don't
I
think,
what
did
you
call
it?
Are
you
calling
it
thrive
or.
G
It's
actually
under
the
cosapp
program,
so
we're
still
referring
to
it
as
cosep
just
to
just
to
generally
differentiate
for
it.
We
just
hired
for
that
program
and
thank
you
for
your
comments.
G
I
would
love
to
come
back
in
you
know,
four
months
or
three
months
and
present
as
to
where
things
are
at
and
I
think
kieran
and
I
could
spend
some
time
specifically
on
where
we
overlap
and
the
status
of
of
the
lasalle.
E
G
E
G
Charge
it
is
so
it's
a
separate
instance
for
launch
and
enforcement,
because
there
needs
to
be
an
assessment
done
on
the
front
end
before
that
person
is
introduced
to
the
living
room,
to
make
sure
it's
an
appropriate
level
of
care,
and,
along
with
that,
I
should
say
that
the
lasalle
center
is
an
intermediate
level
of
care.
G
It
is
not
an
all,
although
we
expect
to
divert
people
from
the
hospital.
It
is
not
a
hospital
alternative.
People
that
are
highly
suicidal
or
highly
violent
will
still
be
going
to
the
hospital,
but
we
do
hope
to
prevent
people,
and
I
call
it
on
the
way
up.
G
So
most
of
us
at
some
point
in
time
have
experienced
crisis
crisis
can
feed
on
crisis
if
it's
not
stopped,
and
our
hope
is
to
stop
it
at
an
earlier
stage
before
people
end
up
in
the
hospital
or
in
the
detention
center.
E
G
Madam
chair
counselor,
so
there
are
two
entrances.
One
is
the
main
entrance
and
when
you
enter
the
main
entrance
at
la
salla,
you
can
go
to
the
right
which
takes
you
to
the
detox
center
or
to
the
left,
which
is
into
the
living
room.
Some
people,
as
they're
coming
in
won't
be
ready
for
the
living
room
and
they
will
come
in
through
a
secure
entrance
and
be
assessed,
but
everyone
will
be
assessed.
G
It's
just
a
matter
of
how
they
enter
the
building
and
a
safety
concern
that
there
is
a
separate
entrance
for
law
enforcement.
E
Good
to
know,
thanks
for
the
clarification
and
director
choi,
I
just
want
to
thank
you
when
you
were
describing
the
just
what
we've
been
doing
in
the
bucket
of
behavioral
health
and
that
we
actually
have
programs,
whether
it's
through
partnership
or
that
we're
kind
of
we
are
starting
from
the
ground
up
and
and
leading
ourselves
through
the
county
or
sorry
through
the
city.
I
think
it's
important
to
say
that
when
I
first
started
we
didn't
have
any
of
this.
E
I
mean
with
these
programs.
They
were
kind
of
dispersed,
but
I
feel
like
they're
being
more
integrated,
and
I
appreciate
your
experience
with
the
county,
because
that
actually
connects
us
in
a
better
way.
That
makes
more
sense
to
me
than
trying
to
say
that
city
and
sound
city
and
county
do
not
inter
intersect
or
interact
and
that's
the
farce.
So
I
think
it's
important
that
you
have
that
experience
so
that
you
can
bring
it
to
our
world
and
make
that
those
connections.
E
B
All
right
doesn't
look
that
way.
Thank
you
and
I
I
have
to
say
I
agree
with
councilwoman
via
real
about
all
the
work.
That's
gone
in
on
the
city
side
to
really
integrate,
make
these
things
work
and
the
collaboration
with
the
county,
I
think,
is
fabulous,
and
so
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
work
and
I
think
the
community
will
be
better
served
as
a
result
of
this
collaboration,
and
you
know
the
city
really
becoming
a
partner
in
a
serious
way.
So,
thank
you.
B
Thank
you
all
right.
Our
next
presentation.
We
may
not
have
the
presenter
who
was
going
to
beam
in
remotely
and
may
not
be
here
jennifer.
Do
we
have
our
presenter.
B
B
So
I'm
wondering
if
she
just
got
caught
up
yeah.
It
may
be
that
she's
just
having
a
connection
issue.
So
since
we
don't
have
her,
we
will
move
on
to
our
consent
agenda.
If
she
does,
if
she
is
able
to
join
us,
we
will
loop
back
around
my
name.
J
Paul
king
miller,
I'm
the
clinical
director
at
santa
fe
recovery
center
and
sylvia
asked
me
to
to
be
here
on
her
behalf.
B
J
I
guess
I'll
kind
of
tie
in
with
the
presentation
that
was
just
given
and
say
we're
partnering
there
at
the
at
la
salla,
we're
running
the
the
detox
half
of
that
for
the
the
medical
detoxification
and
sort
of
the
the
idea
or
model
around
santa
fe
recovery
center
generally
is
we're
trying
to
develop
a
continuum
of
care
for
all
the
people
that
we
come
into
contact
with
so
starting
with
day
one
going
to
a
detox
or
even
getting
a
crisis
call
and
being
brought
in
and
assessed
and
brought
to
detox
that
will
funnel
directly
into
our
residential
programs.
J
And
so
we
have
a
30-day
residential
program
for
men
and
a
30-day
residential
program
for
women,
and
we
have
20
beds
at
both
facilities
for
that
and
then
there's
a
90-day
extended
care.
So
not
it's
not
90
more
days,
it's
90,
total
and
and
that's
both
for
men
and
women,
and
we
also
in
the
women's
program
there's
a
women
and
children's
program.
So
we
will
accept
women
with
their
children
or,
if
they're
pregnant.
J
We
have
medical
care
for
for
those
instances
and
a
specialized
sort
of
set
of
treatment
objectives
when
women
come
with
their
children
in
those
programs.
There's
a
tremendous
amount
of
case
management
that
goes
on
people
often
come
and
they
don't
have
ids
or
social
security
cards
or
any
kind
like
they
lack
most
things,
and
so
we
do
a
lot
of
case
management
early
on
to
get
those
just
kind
of
the
fundamental
pieces
of
life
together.
J
If
there
is
family
involvement
or
supports,
we
start
to
bring
them
into
the
picture
as
quickly
as
possible.
In
the
first
30
days,
it's
really
kind
of
a
lot
of
stabilization
working
on
skill
building
sort
of
how
do
you
cope
with
the
the
triggers
in
your
environment
that
that
could
lead
to
relapse?
J
We
encourage
extended
care
in
those
instances
where
it
makes
sense
and
and
if
not,
we
we
help
with
the
transition
back
home
or
wherever
this
person
is
going
to
next
and
make
referrals
where
we
need
to
in
the
extended
care
it's
people
have
an
opportunity
to
go,
get
a
job
they're,
still
working
and
developing
their
support
networks
and
support
groups
connecting
with
family
again,
if
that's,
if
that's
part
of
their
treatment
and
and
then
again
case
management,
all
the
way
through
linking
people
with
the
next
step
of
what
they're
going
to
be
doing
for
those
folks
who
we
were,
you
know
they
were
speaking
about
people
who
were
unsheltered
or
or
otherwise
didn't
have
resources.
J
We
have
sober
living
option
after
the
90
day
and
there's
the
apartments
at
the
midtown
campus,
the
old
colleges,
santa
fe,
there's
the
apartment
buildings
there,
where
we
can
house
up
to
40
people
to
to
an
apartment
and-
and
that's
meant
to
to
be
a
sort
of
a
stable
ground
where
a
person
can
start
to
do
things
together.
J
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
struggles
we
saw
early
on
was
we
do
you
know
30
day
90
day,
but
then
you
have
somebody
who's
sober
and
they
don't
have
a
place
to
live
so
they're
now
living
out
of
their
car
and
that's
a
pretty
quick
route
to
relapse
or
right
back
to
square
one.
So
we're
trying
to
give
as
much
support
as
we
can,
as
as
long
as
we
can
and
actively
try
to
bring
in
the
natural
supports
as
as
quickly
as
we
can
and
find
the
right
balance
there.
J
J
But
ultimately,
our
goal
is
to
help
a
person,
learn
the
skills
that
they're
going
to
need
to
sort
of
manage
things,
get
them
the
tools
and
the
supports
in
place
to
help
them
manage
things
and
and
and
keep
them
in
the
system
no
longer
than
they
need
to
be,
but
as
long
as
they
need
to
be
right,
we're
always
moving
toward
them
stepping
out
on
their
own
and
also
realizing.
Some
people
can
do
that
in
30
days
and
make
a
go
of
it.
Other
people
need
much
more
time.
J
One
element
of
our
program
that
we're
really
it's
been
around
and
it
and
it
does
good
work-
is
our
outpatient
program,
but
we
really
santa
fe
recovery
center
started
as
a
residential
treatment
and
we've
always
kind
of
thought
of
ourselves
as
that
way.
But,
given
the
you
know,
the
circumstances
in
the
state
and
and
whatnot
the
ability
to
have
the
greater
outreach
through
outpatient
services,
both
for
the
clients
that
we
have
so
we
can
stay
connected
in
supporting
them.
J
J
So
as
people
come
out
of
our
residential,
that
system
is
there,
but
we
can
also
reach
people,
hopefully,
at
a
at
a
lower
level,
where
they're
needing
a
lower
level
of
care,
we
may
be
able
to
provide
therapeutic,
the
therapeutic
and
or
intensive
outpatient
therapy
before
they
get
to
the
place
of
of
needing
to
be
picked
up
and
brought
to
detox
and
treatment
so
trying
to
kind
of
approach
it
from
both
ends,
and
our
outpatient
program
has
been
doing
that.
J
Maybe
make
it
a
more
focal
point
of
what
we're
doing
and
the
residential
work
is
is
maybe
a
little
more
background,
because
I
think,
if
we're
doing
outpatient
correctly
and
well,
that
will
be
a
bigger
part
of
what
we're
doing
than
the
residential
treatment
yeah
and
now
the
so
the
only
and-
and
I
guess
I'm.
I
noted
the
challenges
that
were
brought
up
in
the
previous
thing,
and
I
think
that
the
major
challenge
that
we
have
also
is
workforce,
there's
just
a
real
shortage
and
coming
out
of
covid.
J
Surprisingly,
everything
seems
way
more
difficult
to
come
out
of
it
than
it
was
to
go
into
it.
Just
getting
back
to
aaa
meetings
or
having
people
come
in
to
do
exercise
things
with
our
clients
or
yoga.
Getting
those
things
going
again
is
logistically
a
challenge
and,
and
then
the
staffing
part
of
that
is
a
challenge
as
well
we're
just
not
getting
the
the
size
of
our
organization
and
the
p
the
number
of
people
that
we're
serving
getting
qualified
and
able
people
to
fill
those
positions
that
we
need
filled
is
challenging.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
thank
you
for
for
for
those
thoughts
and
no
fancy
powerpoint
necessary.
That
was
a
great
overview
of
of
what
your
world
looks
like.
So
I
appreciate
it
are
there
questions
from
the
committee
councilwoman.
E
Vieira,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
a
quick
question.
Thank
you
paul
for
joining
us
and
for
your
information.
I
was
trying
to
remember
we're
happy
to
have
you
on
the
midtown
campus.
I
think
it's
important.
I
know
it
was
it's
been
a
temporary
location,
and
so
I
was
trying
to
remember
you
all.
Aren't
you
building
a
new
facility
residential
facility?
J
Yes,
we're
we're
currently
in
contract
with
the
place.
I
believe
it's
a
warner
road
just
toward
the
lotta
burger
on
st
mike's
down
by
the
pet,
the
the
pet
boarding
place
there
and
it
was
an
old
gym
or
something,
but
we
we
put
a
bid
in
on
that
and
we
have
some
person
doing
some
looking
at
how
we
can
transform
that
into
residential.
J
But
that's,
unfortunately,
only
going
to
house
our
our
30-day
pro
men's
program.
I
think
our
intention
is
to
maintain
the
apartments
at
the
midtown
campus
going
forward.
We
don't
have
a
plan
for
that.
I
know
sylvia.
The
executive
director
has
wanted
or
desired
to
be
there
because
they're
they're
kind
of
ideal,
frankly
they're,
essentially
located
to
a
bunch
of
things.
J
It
provides
sort
of
a
perfect
contained
space
for
people
to
have
a
nice
environment
and
home
to
live
in
and
also
easy
for
us
to
sort
of
support
and
monitor
and
do
things
there.
So
that's
kind
of
our
plan
we're
moving
the
30-day
out
of
the
dorm
rooms
to
a
building
and
and
we'll
the
plan
is
to
maintain
the
the
extended
care
and
sober
living
at
the
apartments.
E
Okay,
for
some
reason,
I
thought
there
was
a
plan
that
you
all
were
constructing
a
new
facility
and
I
can't
remember
what
part
of
town
am.
I
am
I
wrong
about
that.
I
thought
there
was.
J
There's
going
to
be
some
construction
at
the
lucia
lane
area,
which
is
our
women's
program.
We
have
a
piece
of
a
large
piece
of
land
there
that
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
build
a
outpatient
and
medical
and
intake
sort
of
office.
Building
there.
It's
not
necessarily
going
to
house
clients,
but
it
will
be
a
central
hub
for
the
community
and
our
clients
to
get
medical
services,
and
we
want
to
make
it
kind
of
like
a
community
medical
place
where
people
can
come
to
get
those
kind
of
services.
J
We
can
do
our
intake
processing
much
more
efficiently
having
those
services
on
site
instead
of
asking
people
who
are
maybe
in
an
arroyo
to
go,
get
their
medical
records
and
blood
work
done,
which
is
a
challenge
and
also
our
intake
team
and
outpatient
team
would
be
housed
there
as
well.
It
also
works
well
for
our
women's
program
and
the
women
and
children,
particularly
they
have
significant
medical
monitoring
and
needs
that
need
to
happen
and
so
they're,
just
literally
a
walk
across
the
parking
lot
to
get
to
those
medical
services
there.
J
B
K
Madam
chair,
thank
you
good
evening
to
the
councillors
and
council.
Very
now
we
are
out.
I
just
want
to
just
add
some
clarity
to
what
mr
miller
said.
We
have
been
in
contact
with
mrs
barella
and
she's
not
here
tonight,
but
I
wanted
to
just
be
clear
from
a
midtown
development
standpoint.
We
are
not
in
any
discussions
or
had
any
discussions
with
the
recovery
center
to
go
beyond
their
lease
agreement.
K
We've
been
talking
to
them
for
18
months,
but
it
was
under
our
understanding
that
they
would
be
building
a
new
facility
and
moving
away
from
the
campus.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
clear.
While
we
have
not
had
any
discussions
with
her
about
a
permanent
location,
we
have
had
many
discussions
with
her
about
her
exit
strategy
as
we
redeveloped
the
land
and
rezone,
and
she
has
been
clear
to
us
that
they
are
building
a
facility
that
would
house
their
full
contingent.
E
Thank
you
understood.
Thank
you,
misspoken,
that's!
Okay,
right
on
I
mean
we
are
still
in
in
partnership
with
you
all
for
a
period
of
time.
K
I'm
the
madam
chair
of
council
bureau
and
mr
miller,
I'm
gonna,
ask
sam
to
remark
to
that.
I
think
it's
the
end
of
2020
too,
but
sam
can
speak
to
that
because
we
are,
we
have
extended
it
two
times
so.
B
Okay,
councilwoman
viral,
you
still
have
the
floor
and
then
we
have
counselor
cassette
and
then
we
still
have
another
agenda
item
to
get
to
so.
E
J
So
I
don't
know
the
exact
number
off
the
top
of
my
head.
It
varies
week
to
week
really
sometimes
we
will
have
a
lot
of
folks
from
the
area
coming
through
our
detox
other
times,
we'll
have
more
people
coming
from
out
of
town
albuquerque
or
las
cruces
wherever,
but
it's
hard
to
give
a
specific
number
to
that
in
any
given
day.
I'd
have
to
pull
up
the
census
and
go
through
everybody's,
where
they're
from.
J
B
Okay,
counselor
kassa,
you
you're
up
next.
I
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
paul
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
your
presentation,
a
quick
question.
You
mentioned
that
there's
a
women's
and
children
program.
Are
there
ever
situations
where,
where
single
fathers
come
in
and
you're
not
able
to
house
them
with
their
kids
and
what
happens
in
those
situations.
J
That's
a
great
question:
we
have
not
had
well,
we've
had
single
fathers,
I'm
sure
they've
not
brought
their
children
and
we
don't
have
the
the
same
kind
of
grant.
Funding
program.
That
program
is
funded
through
a
federal
samsa
grant
it's
a
five-year
grant
and
they
fund
and
kind
of
direct
that
with
some
very
specific
guidelines.
J
Unfortunately,
there's
not
a
lot
of
sort
of
guidelines
and-
and
that
just
simply
doesn't
happen
that
frequently,
however,
we
do
get
men
in
our
extended
program
who
get
pretty
frustrated
because
they
want
to
see
their
kids
and
they
want
to
have
those
that
time
with
their
kids
too.
So
we
we
make
an
effort
to
do
that.
It
would
be.
It
would
be
a
new
request
to
have
to
ask
to
see
if
they
were
able
to
bring
their
their
kids.
J
I
Yeah,
I
would
be
really
interested
to
hear
about
that.
I
know.
Traditionally.
We
frequently
think
that
kids
are
only
ever
with
single
mothers
and
and
sometimes
forget
about
the
fact
that
single
fathers
who
have
soul
custody
of
their
kids
exist
too.
So
I
absolutely
would
encourage
you
guys
to
start
looking
into
that
a
little
bit
more
and
maybe
provide
that
feedback
to
your
grantor,
especially
if
you're
able
to
gather
gather
some
information.
So
thank
you.
I
appreciate
you
being
willing
to
explore
that
a
bit
more
yeah.
I
J
Well,
each
clinician
could
carry
a
caseload
of
20
to
30.
right
now
we
have
three
full-time
clinicians.
I
would
like
to
see
that
go
up
to
five
or
six
in
a
year,
so
whatever
the
math
is
on
that
I'm
not
a
math
person,
but
so
you
know
five
to
six
people
with
30
client
case
load.
Some
of
those
people
would
be
in
iop.
So
a
lot
of
that
work
would
happen
through
group.
J
Not
necessarily
individual
there'd
be
one
individual,
but
it
would
a
lot
of
that
would
be
group
time
like
every
you
know,
four
or
five
days
a
week.
There
would
be
a
group,
so
I
think
our
and
and
honestly
that
could
grow
until
it
doesn't
until
we
have
all
the
clinicians
have
a
full
caseload
and
nobody's
calling
us
to
have
services,
I
mean
we
could
have
10,
clinicians
or
20.
I
guess,
and
telehealth
has
really
opened
up
a
door.
J
That
way
I
mean,
I
think,
a
lot
of
people
dislike
it,
a
lot
of
people
really
like
it
and
so
having
the
option
or
the
ability
to
do
both
lets
us.
You
know
see
somebody
in
remote.
You
know
outside
of
gallup
somewhere,
and
we
also
have
services
in
gallup,
but
we
could
see
somebody
in
gallup
and
and
be
in
santa
fe
or
albuquerque
or
wherever
our
outpatient
office
might
be.
J
But
if
we
have
a
large
collection
of
people
in
albuquerque,
we
could
open
an
office
there
and-
and
you
know,
see
people
in
person
there,
just
where
the,
where
the
need
or
the
client
sort
of
demand
we
show
up,
we
can
do
that,
but
sending
people
home
and,
and
then
just
kind
of
losing
contact
with
them
is
counter
to
what
we're
trying
to
do,
and
it
may
not
be
the
best
for
them.
We
we
want
to.
J
We
are
in
a
process
of
of
tracking
our
outcomes
and
want
to
stay
connected
with
our
clients
to
find
out,
you
know,
are
they
doing
well?
Do
they
need
supports?
You
know
what
could
we
learn
from
their
experience
that
we
could
do
better
going
forward
so
we're
in
a
process
of
trying
to
gather
that
information
as
best
we
can
and
that
that
outpatient
service
is
part
of
that
too?.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much
for
sharing
that
I
I
look
forward
to
you
guys
being
able
to
expand,
as
I
know
that
the
need
is
very
great
and
thank
you
so
much
for
for
your
work.
It's
really
important
work,
so
we're
very
grateful
to
have
you
here.
Thank.
J
B
All
right,
we
don't
have
any
more
questions
from
the
committee.
Thank
you
paul
for
being
here
on
short
notice
and
filling
in
it
was
great
have
a
great
day.
You
have
a
good
evening
too.
We
will
now
go
to
the
consent
agenda.
B
B
If
the
city
attorney
is
available,
I
would
like
to
have
her
just
go
over
with
us
sort
of
the
parameters
of
the
lines
of
questioning
that
would
be
appropriate
in
the
open
session,
and
you
know
if
we
want
to
go
into
executive
session.
That
is
something
that
could
happen.
I
believe
we
have
an
executive
session
ability
at
governing
body
too.
So
aaron,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
kind
of
helping
us
understand
how
the
process
works.
With
regard
to
this
item,.
H
Sure,
thank
you,
chairwoman,
romero
worth.
Basically.
If
the
contents
of
the
proposals
are
the
subject
matter
of
conversation
that
is
desired,
or
if
there's
lines
of
questioning
that
implicate
the
proposals,
then
we
should
go
into
executive
session
to
discuss
those
but
the
contract
itself
and
the
rfp
process.
The
rfp
criteria
and
the
evaluation
process
are
all
fine
for
public
discussion
so
that
the
whole
packet
that
was
posted
publicly
should
be
fine.
H
B
Okay,
thank
you.
I
think
that's
helpful,
counselor
garcia.
I
believe
you
pulled
this
item
and
there
may
be
others.
I
I
think
who
have
questions
too
and
we
can
decide
as
a
committee
what
you'd
like
to
do
in
terms
of
going
into
executive
session
with
the
group
we
have
here
tonight
doing
that
at
the
governing
body
meeting
or
doing
both
so
council,
garcia
I'll,
give
you
the
floor.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
do
have
some
questions.
I
guess
pertaining
to
the
process
and
then
I
do
have
questions
that
would
be
more
so
directed
at
an
executive
session,
and
I
guess
we
can
chat
about
that
a
little
later.
D
But
my
first
question
I
get-
or
I
guess
it
would
be-
a
request-
is
for
all
three
proposals
to
be
submitted
to
the
governing
body
members
with
the
scoring
rubrics
used
on
the
proposals.
It's
my
understanding
that
there's
nothing
in
state
procurement
code
that
would
prohibit
us
from
receiving
that
information.
So
I
would
like
for
that
to
be
sent
to
all
of
the
governing
body
members.
D
Last
night
there
there
was
the
names
of
the
four
folks
that
were
part
of
the
overs.
The
review
committee
two
were
city
staff,
two,
what
I
would
call
city
affiliates-
and
I
guess
this
is
a
question
more
so
for
sam-
is
there
a
reason
why
we
didn't
have
any
independent
reviewers
participate
in
this
process?.
L
L
M
Chairman
romero
worth
and
counselor
garcia.
Yes,
so
when
we
were
in
discussion
about
who
the
reviewers
would
be,
so
we
did
select
internally
to
the
city
as
what
we
thought
was
the
appropriate
pathway.
M
And
so
you
have
two
qualified
staff
members
from
the
city,
the
public,
libraries,
director,
maria
tucker
and
then
also
julie
sanchez,
both
of
that
experience,
working
with
community
engagement
and
on
different
levels
as
well
as
procurement
process
and
the
standards.
And
then
the
advisory
to
the
city
was
the
vice
chair,
adelma
aurora,
who
is
with
the
arts
commission
and
has
been
with
us
for
years,
also
deeply
into
arts
and
culture
and
which
chart
is
very
much
into
and
then
for
the
his
city
historian.
We
did
ask
around
for
other
panelists.
M
D
Okay-
and
I
by
no
means
am
I
trying
to
question
the
credentials
of
the
membership,
it's
just
through
my
experience,
especially
in
dealing
with
state
procurement
process.
There
are
independent
reviewers
that
are
that
that
potentially
can
be
wiped
clear
of
any
bias
whatsoever
and
when
we
have
folks
that
are
still
tied
to
the
city,
there's
still
that
potential
for
bias.
In
that
sense,
and
I
I'm
very
surprised
that
we
didn't
have
any
independent
reviewers
that
were
community
members
that
are
part
of
this
process,
as
the
state
procurement
process
does
allow
for
it.
D
D
Okay,
I
find
it
hard
to
believe
we
couldn't
find
two
folks
throughout
the
city
of
santa
fe
to
participate
in
this
process
review
process.
I
I
know
that
this
is
a
a
topic
that
folks
have
been
looking
forward
to
for
over
a
year
now
and
to
me,
I
think,
that's
a
little
hard
to
believe
that
we
couldn't
find
at
least
a
minimum
two
individuals
from
the
community
to
participate
in
the
review
of
this.
D
I
guess
my
next
question
so
last
night
there,
the
applicants
provided
an
introduction
to
themselves
and
had
an
opportunity
for
questions.
D
Is
that
what
we
are
considering
and
opportunity
for
clarification.
D
So,
throughout
procurement
processes,
when
there
are
proposals
submitted
usually
through
rfp,
there
are,
there
is
what
what
is
called
a
clarification
process
where
an
applicant
submits
their
their
packet
of
information,
and
then
there
is
an
opportunity
for
clarification.
D
The
the
internal
reviewing
team
has
that
opportunity
to
reach
out
to
the
applicant
and
to
say:
hey
you,
you
talked
about
this
and
you
where
we
want
to
get
additional
information
just
to
ensure
we're
fully
grasping
that,
and
so
my
question
is
is
is
the
opportunity
that
was
presented
last
night
and
and
I'm
assuming
throughout
the
remainder
of
this
process?
Is
that
what
we're
considering
the
clarification
process,
I
I
don't
think
so.
I
will
defer
to
the
city.
H
Councilwoman
romero
worth
and
counselor
garcia,
as
you
mentioned,
the
that
process
is
by
the
selection
committee
and
and
the
committees
are
not
the
selection
committee
and
the
governing
body
is
not
the
selection
committee,
so
that
process
occurred
earlier.
D
Okay-
and
so
I
guess
my
concern-
is
that
we're
only
allowing
the
opportunity
for
one
proposal
submitter
to
have
questions
asked
to
them
by
the
governing
body.
B
But
counselor
and
again
I'll
defer
either
to
sam
or
to
aaron.
They
are
the
recommended
proposal
from
the
selection
committee,
and
that
is
why
they
are
the
ones
we
are.
We
are
currently
evaluating
whether
to
accept
the
recommendation
of
that
evaluation
committee
and
award
this
group
with
the
contract.
B
D
No,
I
I
understand
the
process.
Thank
you
for
clarifying
chairwoman,
but
in
my
history
of
dealing
with
state
procurement
process,
there
is
the
the
review
body.
Then
the
review
body
makes
the
recommendation
to
the
approval
body.
D
In
my
experience
in
this
this
goes
years
I
mean
there
has.
I
have
never
seen
a
proposal.
Submitter
go
in
front
of
the
body,
that's
ultimately
going
to
select
and
have
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions,
and
that
to
me
is
a
very
brand
new
process,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
giving
fair
due
process
to
all
proposal
submitters,
whether
they're,
the
selected
or
not-
and
I
think
that's
where,
as
I've
mentioned,
I've
dealt
with
state
procurement
process
where
things
are
scored
and
it
is
what
it
is
we
didn't.
D
We
didn't
have
the
opportunity
to
ask
an
applicant
further
clarifying
questions,
because
that
could
ultimately
reflect
on
a
score
that
was
previously,
I
guess,
set
in
stone
by
the
review
group
and
I'm
just
trying
to
fully
understand
why
one
group
is
allowed
to
speak
and
ask
questions
or
have
questions
asked
to
them.
Where
is
the
full
panel?
The
full?
I
guess
I
would
just
say
the
three
folks
that
submitted
have
that
same
opportunity,
whether
I
understand
it's
the
recommended.
But
again
I
want
to
fully
understand
that
procurement
process.
B
Yeah
aaron
has
her
hand
up
I'll.
Let
her
answer.
H
D
D
H
B
Actually
counselor,
that
was
not
what
we
that
was
not
the
opportunity
that
I
gave
the
recommended
awardee.
I
asked
them
only
to
enter
because
it
was
a
public
meeting
and
we
were
not
an
executive
session.
I
asked
them
to
introduce
themselves
to
talk
about
their
background.
B
They,
and
that
was
the
the
limited
layer
that
you
know.
We
could
ask
them:
how
many
years
did
you
live
in
santa
fe
or
how
many
years
have
you
been
a
consultant
or
that
kind
of
thing,
but
it
was
only
an
introduction
and
about
background
and
who
they
were.
H
H
D
K
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
councillor
garcia.
The
miss
mcsherry
is
correct.
The
the
midtown
development
team
was
there
just
to
introduce
themselves
because
it
was
a
very
large
project
and
we
wanted
to
let
the
public
know
and
the
counselors
know
who
they
were
as
we
went
through
the
process
as
we
went
through
the
ena
process.
K
So
there
were
no
specific
questions
about
their
capabilities,
or
things
of
that
nature
was
really
an
introduction
of
the
team
that
was
on
the
call
just
like
we're
doing
here,
where
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that,
through
this
process
that
this
recommended
recommended
a
firm
is
available
to
just
introduce
themselves,
because
this
is
a
very
important
procurement
that
we're
about
to
make.
D
H
D
A
B
Absolutely
absolutely,
I
believe,
valerie
martinez
is
here
with
artful
life
hi.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
again
tonight.
I
think
similar
to
last
night.
Second
chance
a
slightly
different
group.
Some
of
us
were
with
you
last
night
and
and
we've
we've
added
on
a
couple
new
counselors.
So
this
would
be
a
great
time
to
again
introduce
yourselves
to
the
quality
of
life
committee
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
your
background
and
who
you
are.
N
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
just
want
to
apologize
that
janiece
scarab.
My
co-director
is
on
an
airplane
right
now,
so
she
can't
join
us
tonight,
but
she
sends
her
apologies
and
her
regards.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
quality
of
life
committee.
N
My
name
is
valerie
martinez
and
I'm
the
founding
director
of
artful
life,
and
we
are
honored
to
be
the
recommended
awardee
for
the
chart
project.
A
little
bit
about
me.
I
was
born
and
raised
in
santa
fe.
I
went
to
salazar
elementary
school
de
vargas,
junior
high
and
santa
fe
high,
my
father,
jose
ramon
martinez
and
my
mother,
exilda
martinez,
taught
many
generations
of
santa
fans.
N
My
dad
is
a
santa
fe
high
math
teacher
and
tennis
coach,
my
mother.
As
a
teacher
and
principal
at
alameda
middle
school.
I
am
a
poet,
an
educator,
an
arts
administrator,
a
community
engagement
consultant
and
a
collaborative
artist.
It
was
my
honor
to
be
your
santa
fe
poet
laureate
from
2008
to
2010..
N
N
I
know
because
I've
witnessed
it
the
power
of
the
arts
to
create
a
what
I
call
connective
tissue
and
meaningful
relationships
between
people
who
are
different
and
often
in
communities
that
are
struggling
with
crisis
and
division,
and
I
think
that's
all
I'll
say
for
now,
unless
you
have
any
questions.
Thank
you
for
having
me
thank
you,
councillor,
rivera.
A
Questions
yeah
just
one.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
miss
martinez
for
being
with
us
this
evening.
I
was
just
curious
as
to
what
your
role
was
in
the
fiesta
council
deciding
to
do
away
with
the
entrada.
Can
you
describe
what
your
role
was.
N
Yes,
so
I
was
invited
by
the
santa
fe
arts
commission
at
that
time
to
work
with
a
group
of
writers.
The
decision
had
already
been
made
by
the
the
the
groups-
that's
that
talked
together
for
over
a
year,
so
they
had
already
made
the
decision,
and
I
was
part
of
a
group
of
writers
who
wrote
the
proclamation.
N
So
what
we
did
was
study
a
year
of
notes
from
those
conversations
and
gatherings
so
that
we
would
make
sure
that
the
proclamation
contained
language
that
was
true
to
the
process
and
true
to
the
decision
that
they
made
together
after
a
long
time,
and
so
as
a
writer,
I
was
charged
in
collaboration
with
the
others
of
writing,
something
that
expressed
the
spirit,
the
complexity
and
the
will
of
that
group
who
made
that
decision.
A
N
I
did
work
with
the
city
of
santa
fe
as
part
of
the
midtown
project
several
years
ago
to
design
create
a
facilitation
team
and
train
them
to
conduct
some
public
meetings
for
that.
So
my
experience
is
with
art
projects,
but
also
very
deep
in
community
engagement,
and
so
that's
what
I
bring
to
the
project.
B
Thank
you,
counselor.
Are
there
other
questions
from
the.
B
B
E
B
So
there's
a
process
for
this:
do
you
want
to
make
that
motion
yeah?
I
can
make
it
for
you
and
you
can
say
so
moved
that
would
be
helpful
because
I
don't
have
it
all
right
and
then
just
a
logistical
question:
how
would
we
do
that?
Will
we
use
this
channel?
Will
we
go
to
a
new
link
say
our
city
clerk
is
with.
O
Us
yes,
madam
chair,
we
will
go
to
a
different
meeting
that
was
set
up,
so
jennifer
would
stay
with
this
line
open
and
then
I
will
send
you
a
separate
zoom
link
specific
to
executive
session,
and
then
we
will
leave
this
meeting
and
go
to
the
others
similar
to
the
way
we
handle
governing
body
executive
sessions.
So
if
the
motion
is
approved
and
it's
the
desire
of
this
committee,
then
I
will
email
you,
the
link
that
is
set
up
for
the
executive
session.
B
Okay
and
just
to
be
clear
who
would
be
in
the
executive
session,
so
our
jennifer
would
stay
here
in
this
meeting
and
then
everybody
else
that's
currently
a
panelist
is
going
to
move
over.
H
Correct
okay,
chairwoman
romeroworth:
I
would
just
want
to
remind
folks
we
would
need
to
come
back.
Yes,.
B
Yes,
yes,
yes,
of
course,
all
right!
So
looking
so
here
we
are
so.
This
is
the
motion
that
the
quality
of
life
committee
will
enter
an
executive
session
pursuant
to
the
open
meetings
act,
section
10-15-1,
h,
subpart
6
for
discussion
of
a
competitive,
sealed
proposal
solicited
pursuant
to
the
city,
santa
fe
procurement
code,
that
that
is
the
motion
I
moved.
Is
there
a
second
second
all
right
if
we
could
have
a
roll
call
on
the
motion?
Jumper.
K
D
D
B
Yes,
all
right,
so
the
quality
of
life
committee
is
going
to
move
into
executive
session.
We
will
return
to
bring
us
out
of
executive
sessions
similar
to
the
way
we
work
at
governing
body
meetings,
and
with
that
we
will
leave
this
meeting
and
a
link
will
be
sent
to
join
the
new
meeting.
N
B
Gotcha
all
right,
let's
see,
do
we
have
all
the
you
know,
we're
missing.
No,
we
do.
We
have
everybody
yeah.
B
All
right.
I
am
going
to.
B
Let's
see
I
I
because
I
have
the
sheet,
I
will
make
the
motion
and
if
I
will
state
the
motion
and
then,
if
somebody
can
say
so,
moved
I
think
that's
the
best
way
to
go
here.
Pursuant
to
the
open
meetings
act,
section
10-15-1j,
the
quality
of
life
committee.
B
B
Second,
second,
all
right,
so
councillor
made
the
motion
to
move
us
out
of
executive
session
councillor
cassette
second
made
the
second
on
that
motion
and
if
we
could
get
a
roll
call,
please
jennifer.
D
E
E
B
So
I
believe
we
need.
I
need
to
know
what
the
wishes
of
the
committee
are
with
regard
to
this
item.
B
Right,
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
this
item
from
councillor
rivera
and
a
second
from
councillor
cassette
and
is
there
further
discussion
on
this
item
tonight?.
B
Seeing
none
can
we
take
a
vote?
Please
jennifer.
B
B
All
right,
we
have
no
items
action
items
for
discussion
tonight.
Are
there
matters
from
staff?
No
matter
some
stuff
tonight
manager
all
right.
Are
there
matters
from
the
committee.
B
Matters
from
the
chair,
our
next
meeting
is
wednesday
july
21st.
Thank
you
all
for
for
your
time
tonight
and
we
will
see
you
at
the
next
meeting
good
night.
Everyone
we're
adjourned.