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D
B
Councillor
romero
worth
I
am
also
here
so
and
then
councillor
via
real
will
be
joining
us.
Her
last
meeting
is
running
late.
The
cdc
meeting
she'll
join
us
when
she
can
and
so
she'll
be
excused
up
until
the
moment
she
arrives.
Approval
of
the
consent
agenda.
Is
there
anything
the
committee
would
like
to
discuss.
We
have
a
short
consent
agenda
tonight.
Counselor
approval
of
agenda
first,
oh,
thank
you.
So
do
we
have
a
motion
or
do
we
have
changes
to
to
the
agenda?
No
changes
from
me
today.
B
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
from
counselor
cassette
sanchez,
a
second
from
councillor
rivera
and
if
we
can
call
the
role
on
the
approval
of
the
agenda.
C
C
B
Okay,
we
will
then
move
to
approval
of
the
consent
agenda.
Are
there
items
the
committee
would
like
to
pull
for
discussion?
G
B
C
Again,
counselor
sorry
counselor
chris
rivera.
F
C
B
B
Yes,
all
right,
then
we
go
to
approval
of
the
minutes.
Are
there
changes
to
these
minutes
from
february
3rd
quality
of
life
committee
meeting,
and
if
there
are
no
changes,
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
them.
F
B
D
D
B
Yes,
and
with
that,
we
will
go
to
the
item
pulled
from
the
consent
agenda.
A
request.
Excuse
me
for
approval
of
a
budget
adjustment
resolution
in
the
amount
of
250
000
in
fy
21
to
wildland
fire
operations,
including
15,
temporary,
seasonal,
wildland,
sorry,
my
wild
land,
employees
and
council
rivera.
You
pulled
this
item.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
is
chief
moya.
Thank
you
for
being
here
today
on
the
copy
of
the
salary
sheet.
I
think
it
has
52
026
dollars.
That's
for
all
15
firefighters,.
H
Counselor,
chair,
counselor
rivera,
no,
that
is
for
the
the
52
000,
is
for
the
sawyers.
So
I
have
1311
firefighter
tech
positions
and
then
I
have
four
sawyer
positions,
so
the
52
000
would
cover
the
sawyers
and
then
the
the
rest
of
the
money
would
cover
the
11
forestry
techs,
so
a
total
of
15..
So
it's
it's
broken
down
into
two
different
pay
scales.
F
I
said
the
title
of
it
is
wildland
forestry
technician.
It
doesn't
specify
that
part
of
that
is
for
sawyers.
I've
never
seen
this
this
form
before
it
vaguely
looks
familiar.
I
don't
I
don't
remember
seeing
it,
but
again
the
thailand
is
for
wildland
forestry
techs
and
I
don't
see
anything
on
sawyers
unless
you
can
directly.
H
Page,
I
can
send
that
to
you,
so
I
think
I
just
put
it
all
as
one,
but
we
actually
have
it's
two
different
pay
scales,
so
11
sawyers
and
four
four
street
I
mean
I'm
I
mean
I'm
sorry,
11
forestry
checks
and
four
sawyer
positions
and
I'll
send
you
that
very
shortly
you
can
send.
F
It
to
me,
and
then
I
would
include
it
in
future
packets
as
this
and
then
you
know,
I
know
we
get
funding
back
for
sending
these
crews
out.
Is
it
enough
to
cover
the
basically
the
250
000
that
that.
H
We're
spending
here
correct.
Last
year
we
brought
in
half
a
million
total,
so
that
goes
back
to
the
city
budget
that
doesn't
come
back
to
the
fire
at
all.
So
what
I
was
trying
to
do
to
change
it
a
little
bit.
Is
we
up?
You
guys
up
front
the
cost
to
me
and
then
all
the
money
that
I
get
back
on
reimbursements
goes
back
to
the
city,
so
I
don't
see
any
of
that.
So
it's
kind
of
like
you
know,
borrowing
a
little
bit
and
then
I
pay
you
back
at
the
end.
F
Right
so
have
there
ever
been
times
where
we
don't
get
the
funding
back
that
we
put
into
it.
So
I'm
thinking
this
year's
a
very
dry
year
in
new
mexico.
In
spite
of
this
weekend's
or
this
week's
moisture,
we've
had
pretty
dry
and
I
think
it's
it's
still.
The
forecast
is
still
for
dry
conditions.
Is
that
team
going
to
be
focused
here
in
new
mexico?
H
So
that
was
our
ultimate
goal.
I
don't
want
to
get
too
far.
We
had
a
few
deployments
in
arizona,
but
when
the
the
conditions
got
worse
here
I
held
them
back
and
I
said
we're
going
to
only
do
deployments
in
new
mexico.
So
if
we
have
to
protect
the
city,
I
can
bring
them
back
closer,
so
it
just
depends
on
the
time
of
the
year,
but
I
would
like
to
keep
them
close.
H
F
Right
and
I
know
how
that
I
know
that's
how
we
get
reimbursed
for
the
team
itself,
the
makeup
of
the
the
team-
is
it
typically
the
same
people
coming.
H
Yes,
we
have
had
them.
We
have
four
core
people,
I
don't
know
if
everybody
knows,
but
we
have
four
core
that
work
24
hours
or
the
whole
year,
so
we
have
four
people
that
work
full-time
and
then
we
have
one
wildland
specialist
and
that's
portfolio
chavarria
and
he
runs
our
mitigation
program
for
the
city
and
we
currently
don't
have
a
wildland
superintendent
and
I'm
currently
have
applications
and
I'm
interviewing
them
next
week
for
that,
so
we
will
have
a
supervisor
to
manage
this
whole
division
starting
next
week.
F
All
right,
so
really
the
continuity
of
the
team,
I
think,
is
important,
so
the
you
know
for
the
safety
of
it's
an
extremely
dangerous
job.
So
that's
why
I
was
asking
about
that.
One
last
question:
I
know
we
use.
I
know
we
use
fire
station
number
nine
to
house
this
team
and
they're
also
doing
testing
for
cobid.
F
H
So
right
now
we're
hoping
that
the
covet
stops.
If
not,
we
have
station
six,
that's
where
we
had
them
housed
before
I'm
trying
to
get
it
back
up
secure.
I
don't
know
if
you
know
they
broke
into
station
six,
so
I'm
trying
to
get
that
secured
before
I
put
anybody
back
at
station
six,
so
right
now
they
are
working
out
of
station
nine
and
then
I
have
all
the
equipment
at
our
training
center
at
station
five.
So
I'm
hoping
by
the
time
we
get
these
back.
H
D
B
B
Who
moved
in
segmented
that
I'm
sorry
councillor
rivera,
moved
and
councilor
garcia
made
the
second?
Thank
you.
D
F
B
All
right
with
that,
we
do.
We
go
to
item
seven,
which
are
action
items
for
discussion.
We
do
not
have
any
of
those
tonight.
So
we'll
move
on
to
the
two
presentations
we
have
and
the
first
one
is
the
hold
on
my
midtown
civic
engagement,
team
and
community
engagement
mini
grant
program,
and
I
believe
rich
brown
is
here
to
help
us
with
that
presentation.
I
Good
evening,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
I
will
not
be
moderating
this
presentation
tonight.
I
will
have
daniel
hernandez
who's,
our
project
manager
from
midtown,
and
I
think
we're
waiting
for
mc
michael.
I
don't
know
if
michael's
arrived
yet,
but
daniel
hernandez
will
sort
of
take
us
through
and
alex
ladd
who
have
been
working
on
the
public
engagement
portion,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
daniel
and
then
they'll
take
it
from
there
and
then
answer
questions.
If
you
haven't.
E
Yes,
well,
I
know
it's
been
a
long
time
coming
and
people
roll
their
eyes
when
we
begin
talking
about
things.
I
E
Has
been
just
as
difficult
for
us
as
it
has
been
for
your
you,
so
thank
you
for
your
patience.
I
know
that
it
has
been
patience
that
we've
stressed
so
we're
here.
You
know
we
signed
the
contract
back
in
august
alexandra
and
I
worked
closely
together
on
all
of
the
scoping
really
that
happened
over
the
course
of
the
summer
before
we
executed
the
contract
at
the
end
of
summer,
and
since
then
the
deepak
team
has
been
sort
of
organizing
more
than
anything
and
they've
done.
E
A
variety
of
things
and
alex
will
go
through
the
work
plan,
schedule
and
and
sort
of
the
early
organizing
activities,
but
anyway
I
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
introduction
and
to
thank
everybody
for
their
their
patience.
Michael
pride,
the
the
director
of
the
deepak
program
will
be
on
with
this.
I
was
just
texting
with
her.
E
She
should
be
on
any
minute,
but
we'll
start
the
presentation
of
the
overall
work
plan
that
just
got
submitted
to
us
at
the
end
of
last
week
and
was
for
spine
editing
at
the
beginning
of
this
week.
So
it's
done
and
we'll
circulate
that
to
you,
along
with
the
presentation
that
alexander's
going
to
present
so
alex,
want
to
take
it
away.
A
I
A
Just
added
she
is
okay,
thank
you
about
that.
No
worries,
it's
like
a
special
kind
of
hell
to
be
stuck
in
the
never
never
land
of
zoom
all
right.
Well,
thank
you,
daniel
and
thanks
to
the
committee
for
for,
let's
see
hold
on
just
a
sec
I'll
share
my
screen
and
just
we've
got
a
couple
of
slides
here.
A
All
right,
great
yep,
you're
good,
thank
you.
So
what
I
wanted
to
start
off
by
saying
was
that
we
are
going
to
provide
a
copy
of
the
full
plan
for
the
committee
to
review,
but
we
wanted
to
kind
of
talk
about
it
conceptually
first,
because
it's
a
lot
of
words
and
it's
a
lot
of
sort
of
complicated,
somewhat
squishy,
somewhat
there's
lots
of
academia
in
here,
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
just
really
setting
the
stage
for
for
this
approach.
A
I'm
really
excited
about
this.
I
don't
think
we
do
public
engagement
this
way
ever
from
a
government
perspective,
I
think
we
have
a
huge
opportunity
to
create
a
system,
that's
going
to
work
better
for
us
in
lots
of
upcoming
projects.
So
I'm
really
appreciative
of
the
the
opportunity
to
also
work
with
the
deepak
team
from
unm's
community
and
regional
planning
program.
Professor
pride
and
her
her
team
of
students
are
are
amazing
and
working
in
conjunction
with
the
santa
fe
art
institute.
A
I
think
I
think
this
is
this
is
really
going
to
be
exciting,
but
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
a
couple
of
points
about
the
approach.
You
know
this
isn't
just
kind
of
the
way
we
from
a
government
perspective
normally
do
public
engagement,
where
we
tell
everybody
what
we
want
to
do
and
they
get
mad
and
scream
at
us,
and
then
we
do
it
anyway
or
we
maybe
adjust
a
few
things,
but
there's
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
kind
of
iteration.
That's
really
that
the
system
can
even
allow
for
so.
A
This
approach,
working
with
this
team
is
really
focused
on
what
are
promising
practices
of
public
engagement
and
how
do
we
apply
them
here?
There's
a
an
emphasis
on
on
using
values
to
drive
the
approach,
transparency,
co-creation
collaboration,
inclusivity
and
accountability,
and
and
again
to
this
point
that
this
is
something
that
we
want
to
be
replicable.
We
want
to
be
able
to
use
this
approach
to
public
engagement
for
many
many
projects
into
the
future.
A
Again,
we
are
looking
at
we're
working
with
an
academic
group
we're
working
with
an
arts
group.
So
this
is
a
there's,
a
big
focus
on
on
creating
a
community
of
learning
so
bringing
people
together
so
that
everyone
is
contributing
and
learning
from
each
other.
A
The
the
approach
is
based
on
a
concept
that
we're
calling
the
midtown
engagement
partners
and
these
partners
are
identified
through
an
application
process
that
d-pac
and
the
art
institute
will
be
managing
and
what
these
partners
will
be
applying
for
is
a
stipend,
that's
sponsored
by
the
city,
and
this
will
help
pay
for
their
engagement
activity.
So
in
the
application
they
will
propose
an
activity
and
using
a
variety
of
creative
approaches.
A
So
this
goes
way
beyond
our
usual,
the
charade,
the
enn
meeting
the
survey
monkey
survey
like
this
is
really
asking
for
unique
ways
for
stakeholder
groups
to
engage
with
the
project
and
with
the
place,
and
importantly,
a
public
engagement
calendar
of
activities.
So
the
activities
that
are
both
sponsored
and
designed
through
this
process
will
be
available
for
the
public
to
participate
in
so
and
and
there's
a
there's,
a
there's,
a
clear,
five-step
process.
So
we
it
is
time
bound.
We
won't
be
doing
this
forever.
We
have
a
have
a
calendar.
A
I
think
the
process
started
as
daniel
was
saying
it
feels
like
a
lot
a
lot
longer
than
august
2020,
but
officially
in
august
2020,
you
will
notice
that
some
of
these
dates
overlap,
because
this
is
not
a
truly
linear
process,
it's
more
of
an
iterative
process,
but
the
first
phase
was
really
for
the
engagement
team
for
the
the
deepak
folks
to
to
start
gathering
information
and
and
talking
to
different
stakeholder
groups.
There
was
a
charrette
with
city
staff
to
just
kind
of
understand
from
the
various
areas
of
expertise.
A
The
conditions
related
to
the
site
and
a
part
of
this
was
also
looking
at
the
previous
work.
The
previous
planning
guidelines,
how
the
previous
process
worked
both
to
serve
certain
goals
for
the
redevelopment
of
the
site,
but
also
how
it
could
be
improved
upon
and
as
an
outcome
for
this
first
phase
is
the
work
plan
and
schedule.
So
that
is
what
that
is
the
point
where
we
have
arrived
and
we
will
be
sharing
that
work
with
you
as
well.
A
The
next
the
next
process,
which
again
has
has
already
started,
but
the
next
phase
is
to
really
co-create
and
organize
this
group
of
partners.
The
the
first
round
of
stipends
will
be
awarded.
City
staff
is
also
creating
sort
of
a
wish
list
of
what
we
think
goes
into
a
sustainable
development,
so
that
will
be
part
of
this
process
and
then
this
calendar
with
all
of
these
various
activities,
will
be
developed
and
provided
and
again,
the
outcome
is
this
program
of
these
events.
Now
I
think
it's
important.
A
We
don't
know
what
these,
what
these
groups
are
going
to
propose
to
do,
and
it
could
run
the
gamut
from
sort
of
more
traditional
planning
and
land
use,
sort
of
conversations
to
creating
art,
creating
poetry.
You
know
different
kinds
of
engagement
with
the
site
and
so
it'll
be
quite
fascinating
to
see
what
comes
out
of
it,
but
the
I
think
the
important
piece
is
that
it
opens
a
door
for
a
lot
of
some
unconventional
ways
to
to
talk
about
this
place
and
to
figure
out
what
goals
are
for
its
future
development.
A
The
next
phase,
beginning
in
about
march
and
going
through
the
summer,
is
really
implementing
all
of
these
steps
of
the
process.
A
We
would
expect
that
the
second
round
of
stipends,
so
the
second
round
of
events,
will
go
out,
culminating
in
out
in
voices
of
santa
fe
forum,
but
really
it's
just
like
the
full
activation
of
the
site
will
be
happening
during
this
time,
and
I
think
I
want
to
just
quickly
add
that,
typically,
particularly
when
the
government's
leading
an
engagement
process,
we're
kind
of
looking
at
an
extraction,
you
know
where
it's
an
extractive
process.
We
want
the
community
to
tell
us
what's
important
to
them.
A
We
want
them
to
share
their
lived
experience
and
we're
going
to
use
that
information
to
our
own
end
right,
and
so
the
idea
behind
the
stipends
was
to
actually
reward
the
community
for
providing
their
input
and
their
insight
and
their
expertise
and
their
stories
and
their
knowledge
and
and
to
make
it
possible,
because
many
of
these
groups
wouldn't
be
able
to
to
support
an
activity
if
they
didn't
have
some
financial
support.
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there
as
well,
and
then
the
outcome
from
this
next
phase
will
be
to
have
this
full
full
collaboration
between
all
of
these
partners
to
really
affirm
what
the
development
vision
and
goals
for
the
site
are
and
to
start
to
really
look
at
what
are
the
priorities
moving
forward
for
the
next
owner
and
occupant
of
this
site?
The
next
phase
from
the
summer,
through
the
through
the
late
fall,
would
be
what
are
the
actual
recommendations
that
come
out
of
this?
A
What
are
the
the
what's
the
the
promising
practice
that
we
can
engage
moving
forward?
How
can
we
change
the
way
the
city
approaches,
this
work,
to
make
it
more
accessible
and
more
more
inclusive
of
our
community,
and
so
and
that
that'll
be
the
deliverable
for
that
next
phase
will
be
this
recommendation
for
how
this,
how
the
city
can
both
attach
this
public
engagement
to
this
site,
but
also
take
the
process,
move
it
forward,
so
that
we
do
this
better,
all
the
way
around
and
then
finally
there's.
A
A
So
there
will
be
a
lot
of
emphasis
on
just
kind
of
creating
that
replicable
practice
at
this
point
in
time,
and
the
outcome
will
be
a
document
and
a
set
of
recommendations.
So
the
city
is
ultimately
the
client
of
this
process,
and
so,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
city
will
receive
a
deliverable
for
moving
forward
with
this
work.
J
Oh
it's
my
pleasure
thanks
for
having
me.
No,
I'm
really
excited,
I
think,
alex
did
a
great
job.
It's
been
a
long,
a
long
slog,
as
you
might
imagine,
and
as
you've
observed
adjusting
everything
we
might
do
or
might
have
done
to
this
continuing
pandemic
context,
but
we
continue
to
really
hold
the
same
values
throughout
and
that
is
really
valuing
centering
community
voices
and
multiple
sources
of
expertise.
J
I
you
know
the
stipend
program
was
an
idea
that
existed
before
deepak
got
involved,
but
I
appreciate
I
especially
appreciate
it
because
in
a
way
through
the
stipends,
we
multiply
all
of
our
efforts.
We
we
really
value
and
support
the
work
that
organizations
are
already
doing
with
constituents
that
they
already
working
with
and
that
they
know
really
well
they're
trusted.
J
We
imagine
that's
who
will
get
the
stipends
our
trusted
community
leaders
or
community
facilitators,
and
I'm
really
excited
to
hear
to
see
how
those
things
go.
We
don't
predict
it.
That's
one
of
the
fuzzy
things
about
this
kind
of
really
community-centered
process
is
that
we
count
on
co-designing
it
with
these
partners
as
they
come
on
board
as
we
build
relationships
and
the
outcomes
will
be
co-created
with
them
and
I'm
happy
to
take
any
other
questions.
B
G
B
Terrific
all
right,
thank
you
so
we'll
go
to
the
committee.
I
believe
counselor
via
real.
You
had
your
hand
up.
First.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
yeah
mary
you're
lurking
from
my
meeting
in
the
cdc
to
this
one
just
wanted
to
thank
michael.
It's
good
to
see
you
again,
even
though
it's
virtually
on
the
screen,
it's
been
a
while
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
couple
questions
about
the
process,
so
the
stipend
piece,
I
think
that's
important
and
I'm
just
curious.
What's
the
amount
you
all
are
thinking
that
would
be
provided
for
community
groups.
J
Great
question-
and
I
appreciate
it-
we,
the
city,
is
actually
holding.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
45
000.
50
000
total
to
support
this
program,
45,
000
of
which
will
go
as
stipends
directly
to
the
grantees.
If
you
will,
the
partners
called
the
midtown
activation
partners
and
that
another
5
000
to
provide
some
support
infrastructure
we
have,
we
will
be
rolling
this
out
in
two
phases.
J
So
the
first
phase
we
are
looking
at
five
thousand
five
thousand
dollars
per
grantee
and
probably
about
five
of
these
four
or
five
of
these,
and
those
will,
probably
you
know,
will
have
slightly
different
criteria.
We'll
use
our
current
criteria,
that's
developed
in
conversation
with
our
current
team
and
advisors
and
then,
when
those
partners
join
in,
we
will
work
with
them
to
review
and
revise
the
program
as
it
stands,
revise
the
call
and
reach
out
to
a
second
phase
of
grantees
in
our
in
our
highest
hopes
and
visions.
J
These
first
grantees
also
kind
of
act
as
mentors
for
the
second
phase
of
grantees
working
with
them
and
with
each
other
that
will
all
learn
from
each
other
share
experiences.
But
this
first
round
will
have
a
little
extra
roll
because
they'll
be
vetting
the
applications,
designing
redesigning
the
program
and
vetting
the
applications
for
the
second
round.
K
J
Looking
at
averaging
at
about
five
so
that
we'd
get
at
least
nine
grantees
and
that
you're
right
some
of
some
may
just
need
a
little
bit
of
help
with
just
you
know,
a
single
event
or
promotional
materials
or
recording
and
documentation.
J
We're
going
to
try
to
do
some
of
the
documentation
we're
going
to
help
them.
Do
the
reporting
that
the
city
requires
we're
using
the
sponsorship
mechanism
from
the
city
a
great
idea
from
alex
and
to
was
kind
of,
simplify
things
and
yeah.
So
we
imagine
you
know
it
could
be
as
low
as
two
and
maybe
as
much
as
seven
but
we'd
like
to
make
sure
that
it
spreads
around
to
multiple
partners
rather
than
consolidating
it
all
in
two
or
three
activities
and
organizations.
K
J
Yeah,
that's
part
of
why
we're
holding
five
thousand
dollars
to
provide
that
support.
You
know
we
imagine
that
the
first
round
of
grantees
will
be
more
established
or
seasoned
organizations.
J
J
Ensure
that
these
activities
are
linked,
you
know
for
community.
They
understand
that
this
is
part
of
a
series,
although
we
don't,
we
don't
claim
to
take
ownership
for
any
of
the
organization's
activities
will
also
be.
I
don't
know
if
we
we
didn't
talk
about
the
voices
at
midtown
series
that
would
be
kind
of
a
public
kind
of
a
public
education
and
engagement
series,
inviting
a
lot
of
local
expertise
and
maybe
also
determined
with
some
help
by
the
partners
to
determine
some
featured
presenters.
K
Thank
you
thanks
for
that
clarity,
so
I
guess
I'm
always
wondering
when
we
start
collecting-
or
I
think
alex
used
the
word
extracting
information
or
data
or
input
from
these
various
partners.
K
How
does
the
information
or
those
recommendations,
then
the
actually
informed
the
development
of
midtown,
like
that
pathway,
has
never
been
clear
to
me
like
we
get
this
information.
We
got
some
information
in
that
first
round
a
few
years
ago
and
there
was
some
guidelines
that
we
were
able
to
use
from
that
process,
but
I'm
just
curious
like
how
it
then
translates
into
informing
not
just
the
city
but
the
potential
development
team,
and
where
did
those
recommendations
go
and
how?
How
do
they
actually
reach
the
right
partners,
whoever
they
will
be
in
the
future?.
J
E
And
alex
time
in
so
in
the
work
plan
you'll
see,
I
can't
remember
what
phase
it
is
and
we,
you
know
we
create
these
slides
to
kind
of
condense.
The
work
plan
into
an
easy
presentation,
but
in
the
work
plan
you'll
see
that
there's
this
phase,
where
the
deepak
team
will
be
looking
at
ways
that
other
communities
have
documented
these
processes,
so
that
it
affects
public
policy
and
we're
calling
it
I
mean.
You
know
community
benefits
and
public
policy.
E
But
basically
we
anticipate
that
the,
and
I
think
it
was
in
the
presentation
that
there's
a
community
development
report
that
comes
out
so
that
it's
documented
all
of
the
priorities
that
people
have
expressed
through
the
process
around
access
to
jobs,
affordable
housing,
types
of
education
and
access
to
education.
Just
all
the
things
that
they've
identified
as
public
space
in
programming
for
arts
and
culture
et
cetera
anyway,
to
document
that
put
in
the
report
and
that
report
would
be.
E
We
anticipate
that
that
report
will
be
part
of
any
disposition
agreements
so
that
a
developer
or
series
of
developers,
and
particularly
the
city,
is
held
accountable
for
implementing
those
public
policy
objectives,
and
many
of
them
will
be
longer
term.
Some
of
them
may
be
immediate,
like
percentages
of
affordable
housing
within
the
development
than
targeting
what
populations
or
whatever
the
you
know.
A
And
I'll
just
add
to
that,
I
think
the
other
really
important
piece
too,
is
understanding
what
the
needs
of
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
are.
You
know
we
know,
there's
a
lot
of
displacement
pressure
that
that
people
feel
unstable
in
in
a
lot
of
those
neighborhoods,
and
so
how
do
we
as
a
city?
How
do
we
leverage
our
resources
to
make
sure
that
that
that
we're
supporting
those
surrounding
neighborhoods
as
well.
J
Yeah
I'll
add
that
part
of
our
responsibility
and
our
privilege
is
to
translate
some
of
concert,
community
concerns
and
interests
into
policy
recommendations
and
identifying
best
practices
or
promising
not
best
promising
practices
to
meet
those
goals,
so
that
you
kind
of
have
a
catalog
of
promising
practices
that
correlate
specifically
with
these
recommendations,
rather
than
just
we
want
more
or
less
of
this
or
that.
K
I
guess
oh
when
I
keep
thinking
about
like
how
this
is
going
to
move
forward,
and
you
know
we've
taken
a
couple
steps
back
and
trying
to
move
forward
again
and
if
they're
I
mean
this
really
is
going
to
be
dependent
on
the
analysis
of
staff
as
well
like
what
is
going
to
happen
and
our
last
presentation
that
was
given
to
us
from
the
other
economic
development,
not
economic
development,
I'm
I'm
forgetting
their
names
that
presented
to
us
at
the
last
council
meeting.
K
They
had
indicated
to
us
about
the
potential
or
one
of
the
avenues
that
we
would
actually
end
up:
selling
the
the
property
the.
So
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
that
when
I
hear
that
then
I
just
feel
like
our
community
engagement
process
is
like
then
gets
put
back
again,
because
there
would
be
this
urgency
to
sell
parcels
and
that
we
wouldn't.
K
I
guess
we
have
this
time
frame
and
it's
we're
crunched
for
time,
and
so
I'm
worried
about
that
like
to
make
sure
that
community
engagement
is
going
to
happen,
and
I
trust
the
team.
That's
going
to
be
doing
this.
It's
just
that.
How
does
it
coincide
with
rich's?
You
know
work
as
you
all
are
parallel
trying
to
move
forward
with
like
decisions
and
options
that
we
are
going
to
have
to
select
as
a
council.
K
I
I
If
you
find
that
community
engagement
is
super
important
and
if
you
look
at
some
of
the
options
as
we
move
into,
do
we
just
make
it
a
building
of
weeds
and
sell
it,
or
do
we
take
a
couple
months
and
really
assess
what
we
need
to
do
to
get
it
better,
or
do
we
take
another
nine
months
to
say
guess
what
we
need
more
community
input?
We
need
more
transparency,
we
need
more
progress
reports
and
we
see
that
our
decision
will
be
relied
upon
this
progress,
that's
starting
now.
So
I
think
to
your
point.
I
This
conversation
in
this
project
kind
of
helps.
You
sort
of
figure
out.
The
paths
that
that
are
are
are
good
and
right
and
I'm
not
trying
to
persuade
you.
I'm
just
saying
that
this
discussion
and
then
this
process
tells
you
what
sort
of
path
makes
the
right
sense
for
the
city
for
the
community
and
for
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
midtown
and
daniel.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
add
anything
to
that,
but
I
think
that's
kind
of
to
your
answer
to
that
point.
A
I'll
add
something
rich
really
quickly.
I
think
too,
if
the
policy
direction
is
to
add
value
to
the
property,
to
increase
its
marketability,
any
point
at
which
we're
adding
value.
We
can
also
leverage
something
from
the
beneficiary
of
that
value,
and
I
think
that's
really
important
that
you
know
we're.
This
process
is
giving
us
the
the
the
core
values
or
the
the
kind
of
that
idea
of
what
what
are
the
community
development
priorities
for
our
community
and
we
can
leverage
that
into
a
future
transaction
yeah.
E
K
I
do
see
the
connection.
I
think
that
I
value
you
already
know
how
I
feel
about
community
okay
daniel.
So
I
just
yeah.
I
don't
want
us
to
miss
this
piece
because
there's
other
maybe
counselors
other
opinions
that
we
need
to
get
this
done
quickly
and
expedite
it,
and
I
don't
share
that.
I
know
we
all,
as
taxpayers
are
paying
for
this
property
and
there
are
some
issues.
K
I
just
think
we
have
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
more
value
hearing
from
ideas
from
the
community,
not
just
the
ones
prior
to
this
process,
but
also
new
ideas
and
new.
You
know
inputs
that
I
think
would
be
important,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
doesn't
get
missed.
K
I
don't
think
it'll
get
missed,
but
I'm
just
seeing
it
together
is
hard
for
me
right
now
it's
challenging
and
then
the
only
thing
I
would
just
recommend
is:
what
didn't
I
don't
think
works
very
well
is
using
words
like
charrettes,
making
sure
we
don't
use
words
that
are
only
certain
people
know
what
they
are.
I
I
always
don't.
Well,
I
think
you
all
know.
I
don't
feel
great
about
surveys.
K
They
don't
they
get
a
small
percentage
of
our
population
participating
and,
although
I'm
not
saying
that's,
not
valuable,
I
just
want
to
be
cautious
about
just
surveys.
I
don't
think
they're
useful
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things,
so
just
want
to
flag
that,
and
I'm
excited
that
michael's
part
of
this,
and
that
gives
me
a
lot
of
hope
as
well
as
sfai
and
other
community
partners
that
I
think
have
been
along
the
way
wanting
to
participate
in
some
manner.
K
So
I'm
sure
that
they'll
be
informed
about
this
process
and
the
potential
to
to
set
up
activities
and
engagement
engagement
opportunities
for
our
community.
So
thank
you
very
much.
B
Okay,
counselor
cassette
sanchez.
I
think
you
had
your
hand
up
next.
L
Thank
you
very
much
thanks
everybody
for
being
here.
I
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
seeing
how
this
process
unfolds.
I
think,
as
alexandra
said
at
the
beginning,
it's
exciting
to
see
us
taking
on
a
different
model.
I
had
a
couple
questions
about
how
we
are
choosing
the
I'm
sorry.
What
did
the
community
engagement
partners?
Professor
pride,
you
had
a
much
better
name
for
them
than
I
am
already,
but
how?
L
J
Another
great
question:
thank
you.
We
are.
We
have
a
a
loose
set
of
criteria.
I
should
pull
up
my
document
here
for
selecting
the
first
round.
One
is
kind
of
this
seasoned
established
the
capacity
of
the
organization
and
and
another
would
be
the
kind
of
engagement
process
or
activity
they
are
proposing.
Will
it
reach?
J
You
know
how
many
people
will
reach
what
pockets
of
the
santa
fe
community
are
centered
in
their
in
their
work,
their
ability
to
kind
of
provide
data,
whether
qualitative
and
quantitative
data
and-
and
you
know
the
fit.
I
guess
we're
always
we'll
find
ourselves
saying:
can
they
really
do
that
for
five
thousand
dollars,
or
something
like
that?
J
So
if
it
seems
like
a
huge
if
it
seems
like
a
ten
thousand
dollar
project,
we're
hoping
that
we're
asking
if
they
have
other
funding,
so
we
don't
want
to
eliminate
anything
just
because
it's
big
or
you
know
really
ambitious,
but
I
don't
know
we
haven't
talked
about
it,
but
at
some
point
we
may
actually
try
to
get
some
foundation
or
other
funding
to
supplement
and
be
able
to
do
more.
J
Our
first
round
will
be
our
core
team
and
and
a
couple
of
advisors,
and
then
we
wanted
to
invite
some
key
people
in
the
community
that
have
been
working
on.
You
know
doing
this
kind
of
work
over
time
wanted
to
invite
a
couple
of
them
to
participate
with
us
as
application
reviewers
and
help
us
select.
So
we'll
we'll
have
a
rubric
we'll
score.
J
You
know
each
application
against
the
rubric
and
then
talk
about
what
I
talk
about
the
proposals
that
rise
to
the
top
and
then
make
decisions
that
was
probably
more
important:
the
rubric
a
reliable,
a
reliable
set
of
criteria
that
are
scored
and-
and
that
are
fair
and
really
you
know,
center
the
values
that
we've
just
talked
about.
E
I
I
I
want
to
continue
just
a
little
bit
michael.
Would
you
tell
the
the
committee
also
you
know
that
these
the
criteria,
the
program
itself-
was
also
a
particular
community
of
learning
of
people
that
actually
contributed
to
thinking
about
what
this
application
for
the
stipend
should
look
like.
So
can
you
describe
that
a
little
bit?
E
J
Know
because
we
talk
all
the
time
talk
about
how
we
designed
it
yeah
yeah.
Well,
we
I
mean
we
knew
it
was
there,
but
we
have
jamie
blosser
from
santa
fe
art
institute
who's
really
experienced
in
in
supporting
arts
and
creative
activities
and
innovation
around
community
engagement
and
public
engagement
and
we've,
along
with
our
core
team.
J
It
includes
a
graduate
student
who's
amazing
and
is
kind
of
come
from
a
community,
organizing
and
non-profit
background
in
tacoma
washington,
kathleen
gigi
who's
on
our
team,
who
has
expertise,
she's
kind
of
a
community
engagement
consultant
along
with
our
evaluator
and
then
chris
jonas,
from
little
globe.
Tim
castillo
who's,
one
of
my
colleagues
in
the
architecture
department.
But
in
this
role
he's
the
special
adviser
to
the
provost
for
unm
at
in
santa
fe,
and
then
we
conducted
a
survey.
J
Sorry,
but
a
really
targeted
survey
going
out
to
some
of
the
key
actors
that
we've
heard
from
heard
about
that
was
also
a
kind
of
co-created
list
and
to
understand
more
about
what
they,
what
they
see
as
community
engagement,
what
they
valued
from
it.
The
kinds
of
activities
they've
been
involved
in
before
what
they
think
about
those
and
all
of
those
sources
kind
of
helped
shape
the
design
of
of
this
program,
and
I
forget
how
it
came
up.
It's
like.
L
No
actually
thank
you
for
sharing
that
and
for
providing
a
bit
more
of
that
detail.
That's
you
know
it's
interesting
to
to
hear
how
this
process
is
developing
and
one
question.
I've
always
had
it's.
You
know
how
do
we
know
that
we've
hit
the
mark
and
so
finding
that
balance
and
I'd
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
more,
that
balance
of
trying
to
avoid
the
top-down
process
of
here's,
the
activities
that
we
want?
L
Here's
the
number
of
people
we
want
to
reach
and
listening
to
the
community
and
what
their
voices
are,
but
also
making
sure
that,
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
can
say
hey.
We
really
feel
that
we've
done
enough,
and
so
I'm
I'm
curious
how
you
all
are
going
to
be
able
to
assess
that
in
a
way.
That
is
also
really
iterative
with
the
community
partners.
J
Another
great
question,
so
this
is
where
we
borrow
on
on
our
academic
experience
of
research
and
studies,
where
you
kind
of
define
your
you
define
success,
early
on
identify
the
indicators
of
success
and
monitor
progress
along
the
way,
and
kathleen
is
really
key
to
that.
In
her
experience
as
an
evaluator.
J
Another
thing
I
didn't
mention,
we
did
do
charette
internal.
I
feel
okay
using
that
term
when
it's
when
it's
an
internal
process,
but
we
did
have
a
public
engagement
charette
with
the
deepak
team,
our
first,
you
know
core
advisors
and
importantly,
the
city's
public
engagement
steering
committee
and
we
went
through
well.
We
tried
to
model
our
process
of
being
a
community
of
learners
and
a
community
of
practice,
and-
and
we
asked
the
question,
what
what
are
the
goals
of
public
engagement?
What
do
we
hope
to
learn?
What
would
be
the
indications
of
success?
J
It
probably
was
too
short
of
a
day
in
the
end,
but
probably
as
much
as
you
could
stand
in
the
zoom
room
and
so
we'll
come
we'll
keep
coming
back
to
this.
How
do
we
measure
success,
so
those
will
do
periodic,
self-evaluations
and
reflection
as
well
as
kind
of
a
final
report,
and
those
interim
reflections
really
mean
that
we
have
the
opportunity
to
adapt
our
plan
as
we
go
along,
and
so
I
think
we
built
that
in.
L
That's
that's
wonderful!
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
also
you
know,
as
you
mentioned,
having
that
first
round
of
grantees
be
part
of
that
process,
I
think
will
also
be
very
helpful
and
then
when
and
how
frequently
are
we
going
to
be
getting
updates?
You
know
again
finding
that
balance
between
not
having
us
micromanage,
but
also
this
is
a.
This
is
an
area
of
great
importance
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we're
staying
updated,
while
also
really
allowing
that
community
process
to
to
develop.
I
Oops
ma'am
chair,
I'm
going
to
ask
daniel
to
speak
to
that
because
we
we
have
set
up
we're
setting
out
a
series
of
progress
reports
and
then
some
of
this
progress
reports
will
kind
of
align
in
to
the
general
midtown
reports
that
we're
gonna
put
out
on
a
monthly
basis.
But
maybe
daniel
wants
to
talk.
E
About
yeah,
so
we
the
council
is
requested,
and-
and
I
I
say
that,
like
I'm
glad
you
guys
requested
it,
the
the
request
is
that
there's
a
monthly
progress
report
that
we'll
be
generating
and
they'll
be
topic-oriented
progress
reports,
public
engagement
will
be
one
of
them
and
then
every
month
that's
once
a
month.
The
progress
report
also
once
a
month
there'll
be
a
presentation.
E
One
of
the
presentations
in
the
upcoming
months,
probably
within
the
next
two
months
march
or
april,
will
be
a
public
engagement
presentation
that
alex
and
and
michael
will
do
and
it'll
be
much
broader
than
this.
We're
just
presenting
the
work
plan
tonight.
But
again,
you
know,
edac
committee
frequently
invites
me
through
rich.
I
make
presentations
on
giving
partner
supports,
I'd,
be
happy
to
do
it
here.
Michael
may
not
always
be
available,
but
you
know
someone
on
her
team
may
be
helpful
in
in
backing
up.
E
L
Well,
thank
thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
that.
I
don't
believe
I
have
any
further
questions
at
this
time,
but
I
I
really
am
looking
forward
to
watching
this
process
unfold.
I
think
that
this
is
a
really
interesting
creative
way
to
do
this,
that
I
hope
we
can
also
look
at
how
we
utilize
this
for
other
projects
across
the
city
and
take
the
lessons
learned.
So
I
will
be
really
interested
to
hear
what
areas
are
successful
and
and
where
also
we
have
a
few
bumps
in
the
road.
L
I
know
that
sometimes
there
is
a
hesitancy
to
talk
about
where
the
lessons
learned
are,
but
I
think
that
could
be
really
valuable
for
us,
so
when
those
presentations
do
come
up,
I
know
that
I'd
be
really
interested
to
hear
hey.
Where
did
we
mess
up,
and
where
did
we?
How
did
we
course
correct
in
a
way
that
we
are
learning
from
this
not
to
chastise
ourselves
but
really
to
see
how
we
can
learn
and
use
these
processes
in
the
future?
L
So
thank
you
guys
very
much.
I'm
really
excited
thank
you
for
being
here
and
I
look
forward
to
the
next
update.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
guess
I
forgot
to
pull
my
hand
down
my
the
questions
I
had
counselor
via
real
asked
him,
but
thank
you
to
miss
ladd
and
mr
hernandez
and
mr
brown
and
professor
pride
for
being
with
us
tonight.
I
really
appreciate
the
thorough
update.
B
Thank
you,
okay,
counselor
rivera.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
did
just
want
to
reinforce,
I
think,
some
of
the
stuff
that
counselor
bial
said
and
that
I
don't
think
we
need
to
be
in
a
hurry
for
this
process.
I
know
there's
some
people
that
that
aren't
happy
with
how
much
we're
paying
for
it
and
want
to
just
kind
of
move
on,
but
I
think
we
need
to
get
this
process
right
this
time.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
that.
I
also
agree
with
her
on
the
language
that
we
put
out
to
the
public.
F
We
have
to
make
it
as
inviting
as
possible
language
that
everyone
can
comprehend
and
I'm
hoping
that
as
we
go
through
the
process
that
we
can
make
accommodations
for
spanish-speaking
people
to
be
able
to
engage
and
be
part
of
the
process
as
well
so
interpreter
services.
I
think,
are
huge
in
this,
especially
in
that
part
of
town,
and
I
also
agree
with
the
councilwoman
cassie
sanchez,
about
the
bottom-up
approach.
I
think
also
extremely
important.
F
My
question
that
I
do
have
is
is
for
rich,
and
I
think
I
don't
know
if
it
was
public
works
or
or
facilities.
That
was
going
to
do
an
assessment
of
all
the
buildings,
and
I
think
it's
important
as
we
go
through
this
to
be
able
to
let
the
public
know
that
really
what
buildings
are
in
really
good
condition
and
don't
require
much
money
in
order
to
get
them
usable
again,
and
then
what
buildings
are
possibly
in
disrepair.
So
do
we
know
where
we're
at
on
that.
I
Manager,
council
rivera-
I
I'm
gonna
check
in
with
sam
burnett,
but
I
think
he
does
have
a
preliminary
list
because
last
year
we
had
to
figure
out
which
buildings
to
decommission,
because
we
were
coming
into
the
winter
months.
So
there
may
be
a
preliminary
building
list.
Now
that
I
can,
I
can
bring
back
to
you
into
this
committee,
but
I
know
that
sam
had
had
worked
on
that
through
public
works.
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
been
updated
recently
it
may
have,
but-
but
I
can
get
back
to
you
on
that,
but
I
know
we
had
to
look
through
that
when
we
were
trying
to
figure
out
which
buildings
to
decommission
on
which
buildings
were
sort
of
still
active
in
a
lot
of.
F
Ways
so
good,
I
think
that's
an
important
for
for
the
monthly
meetings
as
well
as
information
when,
when
the
public
starts
to
weigh
in
on
things
that
that
they
may
want
to
see
or
happen
on
there
as
well.
So
thank
you
all
for
the
work
you've
done.
I
appreciate
it
and
I
appreciate
the
plan
of
coming
to
the
council
at
least
once
a
month
to
keep
you
to
keep
us
updated
on
things
that
are
going
on.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair.
B
Thank
you.
I
just
have
a
couple
quick
questions:
how
will
this
process
interface
with
the
last
process
in
terms
of
the
outcomes,
and
I
that's
probably
a
question
for
rich
or
for
daniel,
you
know
or
is
this?
Are
we
starting
anew
or
are
we
adding?
Is
this
supplementing
what
we,
what
we
already
have
prioritized
for
that
campus?
How
does
this
process
inform
the
last
one.
E
I'll
start
in
michael,
you
might
want
to
help
me
out
with
this
too,
because
it's
my
understanding
that
there
were
discussions.
You
know
michael
talked
a
bit
a
little
bit
about
those
surveys,
informal
discussions,
surveys
that
they
did
and
they
learned
a
lot
about
the
process
that
established
those
early
goals
or
those
previous
goals
in
2018
that
ultimately
got
documented
in
the
planning
guidelines
for
midtown
it.
So
there
was
discussion
about
how
they
were.
You
know
who
was
involved
in
creating
those
confirming
them.
E
But
I,
during
that
workshop
I'll
change,
charette
to
workshop
during
the
workshop
that
we
had
together
with
deepak
and
the
public
engagement
committee,
there
was
a
general
sense
like
rather
than
saying
we're
throwing
out.
You
know
the
baby
with
the
bathwater
we're
going
to
build
on
what
we
have
and
refine
along
the
way.
E
So
there
wasn't
an
intention
to
sort
of
like
negate
things,
because
there
was
a
lot
of
work
done
that
built
that
stuff,
that
that
you
know
that
that
foundation,
but
to
strengthen
it
in
ways
and
also
to
allow
people
to
participate
it
in
it
and
refine
it,
and
you
know,
amend
it
if
necessary,
but
I
think
it's
more
of
refining
and
getting
you.
You
know
confirmation
from
committee
from
communities
that
maybe
didn't
feel
and
or
actually
weren't
involved
and
participated
in
that
process.
E
J
Yes,
that's
just
right
daniel
we
want
to
when
we
say
we
want
to
value
community
voices.
That's
all
the
community
voices
and
the
conversations
that
have
happened
over
the
last
three
years,
as
well
as
the
conversations
that
will
happen
over
the
next
six
or
more
months,
and
so
it's
really
building
upon
we
want
to
try
to
one
of
our
major
priorities
is
reaching
some
of
those
voices
and
community
members
or
interests
that
were
less
represented
in
the
earlier
years,
use
the
documents
that
exist.
J
You
know
those
those
principles
etc
to
as
a
point
of
conversation,
a
discussion
starting
point
in
some
cases
to
verify
it
amend
it,
refine
it
as
daniel
said,
with
a
community
benefit
and
community
development
focus,
so
identifying
conflicts
right
and
identifying
maybe
potential
ways
to
mitigate
those
conflicts
and
all
the
while
realizing
what
we
need
to
have.
J
B
You
know
this
is
honoring
all
the
voices
is
part
of
the
reason
why
we've
been
waiting
and
wanting
to
see
more
public
engagement
is
that
the
last
round
there
were
people
who
felt
left
out
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
capture
those
people
this
time
around.
So
I
think
that's
great
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
how
that
comes
forward.
B
What
comes
forward,
I
I
did
you
did
say
something
daniel
that
so
if
a
priority
comes
forward,
where
there's
a
a
particular
number,
a
particular
percentage
say
pegged
to
something
and
it's
not
economically
feasible.
B
You
said
it
would
become
part
of
the
disposition
agreement
but
you're,
but
I
think
what
professor
pride
just
said
is
that
you're
there,
these
things
are
going
to
be
evaluated
to
make
sure
that
they're
that
they're
doable,
I
can't
remember
the
words
exact
words
she
just
used,
but
but
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
what
we're
doing
is
feasible.
I
guess
is
the
word.
Maybe
you
used
so
that
we're
not
you
know
putting
things
out
there
that
you
know
are
not
attainable.
E
Yes,
part
of
the
scope
that
strategic
economics
has
as
well
is
to
vet
some
of
the
priorities
of
proposals
through
an
economics
lens,
but
that's
just
one
lens
of
many
and
so
part
of
the
workshop,
also
and
previous
and
leading
up
to
the
work
plan
with
the
deepak
team
was
those
tensions
that
happen
along
the
way
and
how
they
get
resolved
and
the
rules
we'll
all
have
to
figure
to
play
in
figuring
out.
E
Where
is
the
sweet
spot
of
overtaking
and
being
actually
implementable,
and
one
of
the
things
we
all
talked
about
was.
This
is
a
moment
in
time.
In
five
years
from
now,
the
world
economics
look
much
different
and
in
santa
fe,
and
so
you
know
recognizing
in
any
document-
that's
created
that
five
years
from
now
the
city
agrees
to
reevaluate
on
what's
working
what
was
implementable?
E
Where
are
they
in
these
commitments
that
accountability
value?
Where
are
we
in
those
commitments
and
do
we
need
to
readjust
in
five
years
from
now
so
maybe
get
further
community
benefits
because
the
economy
is
doing
so
well
or
whatever
it
is,
but
you
know
again
it's
a
moment
in
time
and
that's
what
we're
developing
these
four
but
they'll
they'll
talk
about
the
underlying
you
know,
neighborhood
stabilization
community,
stabilization
issues
that
we
want
to
address.
J
We
don't
really
anticipate
highly
quantifying
the
recommendations.
You
know
x
number
of
units
at
this
price
point.
You
know
for
people
at
this
income
or
whatever,
but
really
more
of
a
performance
standards.
If
you
will
what
the
project
needs
to
be,
who
the
communities
that
might
especially
need
certain
benefits
and
pro
and
a
catalog
of
practices
that
could
help
reach
those
goals
in
ways
that
are
both
viable
fees
are
also
feasible,
viable
and
desirable.
B
Okay
and
then
just
one
last
question
on
this
sort
of
goes
to
how
do
you
measure
success,
and
I
don't
know
that
you
spoke
and
if
you
did,
I
missed
it
about
you
know
how
you'll
reach
out
to
groups
and-
and
will
you
be
reaching
out
to
particular
groups
that
you
know
perhaps
represent
populations
that
were
underrepresented
in
the
last
go-around
or
how
do
you?
B
How
do
you
know
you're
gonna
have
well,
I
don't
know,
and
if
and
if
you
get
certain
groups
coming
forward
and
you
feel
like
there's
a
segment,
that's
missing,
will
you
reach
out
to
to
some
organization
that
you
think
might
be
able
to
help
that
segment
be
part
of
the
process?
J
Like
our
survey
that
drew
upon
you
know
the
of
the
past
experiences
of
city
staff,
of
our
partners
in
this
sfai
and
unm
and
other,
please
just
say
we
think
we've
done
a
fairly
good
job
when
we
look
at
our
list
by
both
the
the
yes,
the
names
of
people
but
the
organizations
that
they
are
aligned
with
or
allied
with
and
and
then
we've
also
asked
them
in
our
survey.
J
We
asked
them
what
what
their
main
mission
was,
who
who
they've
worked
with
before
we
had
a
long
list
of
all
those
groups
who
they've
worked
with
before
whom
they'd
like
to
work
with
and
and
other
we've
asked
for
other
names
and
other
organizations.
J
So
I
think
they
call
this
like
a
snowball
or
something
where
you
know
you
invite
a
couple
people
and
you
say
well,
who
else
should
we
invite
and
could
you
invite
some
more
and
so
that's
how
we're
building
our
list?
But
we
will
use
some
we'll
use
some
data
collection
to
help
us
realize
whether
we've
done
this
right,
we're
really
providing
upfront
organization,
facilitation
and
then
infrastructure
support
for
engagement
activities.
J
We
don't
imagine
designing
a
whole
lot
of
them,
we're
kind
of
providing
the
space
and
the
spaces
and
the
support
for
partners
to
design
and
implement
their
engagement
activities.
We
think
that
the
partners
that
will
emerge
and
who
will
receive
the
stipends
know
their
communities
best
that
they
the
the
communities
with
whom
they've
been
working.
They
knows,
they
know
the
ways
to
reach
them.
They
are
trusted
members
of
the
community,
so
we
leave
it
to
them
and
we
look
forward
to
learning
from
them
and
with
them.
J
J
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
responses,
but
we
will
keep
the
survey
open.
We'll
give
periodic
reports
on
what
we've
learned
from
the
survey
and
who's
participated,
at
least
by
some
kind
of
description,
if
not
by
name
and
yeah,
and
we'll
continue
to
we'll
even
improve
the
survey
based
on
the
first
go
around
like
oh
gosh.
We
should
ask
this
or
you
know,
so.
The
survey
isn't
our
primary
instrument.
It's
just
a
way
to
have
a
consistent,
consistent
questions
and
to
be
able
to
look
at
that
so
halle,
bert
who's.
J
The
research
assistant
on
or
the
graduate
assistant
on
this
project
is
going
through
a
process
of
doing
the
reviewing
and
evaluating
the
first
round
of
survey
responses
and
we'll
have
a
report
from
that.
I
think
within
a
week
or
so
great.
B
Tonight,
oh
yeah,
I'm
sorry
alex
and
then
we'll
go
to
council
via
rail
for
a
follow-up.
A
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
chime
in
quickly
because
I
think
from
even
before,
deepak
was
willing
to
be
our
partners
in
this.
We
were
talking
about.
How
do
we
let
the
stakeholders
drive
the
bus
like
this
is
their
process
they
get
to
own
it.
They
might
decide
that
having
a
party
at
campus
is
that's
it.
That's
all
we
needed
to
do,
and
we
feel
great
about
that.
So
you
know
so
I
think
it's
a
really
complicated
question,
because
we
don't
we're
not
necessarily
the
ones
deciding.
What's
enough.
A
K
Yeah,
okay,
thank
you,
counselor
via
rail.
K
K
I
don't
know
where
to
go
with
that.
I'm
just
hoping
staff
we
think
about
this
regularly
and
I
don't
have
a
solution.
I
just
when
I
hear
from
people
that
are
in
that
field
of
you
know,
financiers
and
whatnot.
I
just
I
don't
know,
I
just
don't
feel
like
we're,
seeing
everything
holistically
and
that
we're
using
models
that
don't
serve
communities,
so
I'm
just
making
that
statement,
because
I
just
it
bothers
me
when
we
keep
talking
about
economic
feasibility
and
I
don't
know
any
other
way,
because
I'm
not
in
that
world.
It's
just
that.
J
J
I
won't
say
that
everybody
on
the
I
think
everybody
on
the
team
is
practically
with
me
on
that.
But
but
that's
just
my
personal
perspective,
it's
my
goal
and
my
work,
and
I
know
that
the
resources
are
there.
It's
just
not
a
kind
of
classic
real
estate
investment
model
and
a
standard
proforma.
J
You
know
spreadsheet
it's
more
than
that
and
that's
and
that's
what
why
you
know:
government
cities
get
involved
in
development
of
the
spaces
and
their
boundaries.
When
you
know
you
want
a
community
develop,
you
want
community
benefits
and
community
development,
along
with
some
kind
of
economic
stability
or
security
or
or
benefit.
K
B
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
tonight.
I
I
don't
see
any
other
questions
from
counselors,
so
we
will
move
on
to
our
second
presentation
of
the
evening
and
rich.
I
think
you're
doing
that
and
it's
an
update
on
community
development
department,
reorganization.
I
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
so
I
have
a
slide
deck
here,
just
to
give
an
overview
of
of
the
community
development
department.
We've
been
in
in
place
now
for
about
six
months,
and
so
I'm
trying
to
sort
of
express
what
we've
been
doing
so
far
and
I've
I've
broken
the
presentation
into
a
couple
of
different
parcels,
one
I'm
going
to
start
with
an
overview
and
introduce
the
team
and
leaders
that
are
there
and
then.
Secondly,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
some
data
that
I've
been
gathering.
I
I
haven't
been
able
to
put
it
into
a
dashboard,
yet
I'm
just
still
sort
of
gathering
data.
But
someone
had
mentioned
about
measuring
success
in
a
previous
conversation,
but
that's
ultimately
what
I'm
trying
to
get
to,
but
I
wanted
to
show
you
some
data
that
I've
collected
so
far
and
then
I'm
gonna
also
talk
about
some
of
the
collaborations
that
we've
been
doing
as
we've
joined
together
as
one
department
and
also
collaborations
that
we're
doing
with
other
departments
to
show
sort
of
the
synergy
that
I
talked
about.
I
When
we
talk
about
the
mission
of
community
development
and
then
from
there,
I
wanna
just
talk
about
some
of
the
goals
that
we
have
for
the
next
fiscal
year:
they're
aspirational,
but
they're,
also
practical
and
then.
Lastly,
I
will
start
stop
with
aspirational
goals
for
the
fiscal
years
beyond.
I
Oops,
so
our
mission
is
around
quality
of
life,
and
we
talked
about
this
last
year
at
our
budget
hearing,
you
know
we
say
a
livable
place
for
santa
fe
is
like
where
land
use
and
transportation
planning
and
tourism
and
job
growth
and
diversification
of
our
economy
provide
this.
I
This
opportunity
for
of
creating
wealth
and
for
lifting
up
the
quality
of
life
and
making
that
happen
for
us
is
this
integrated
the
department
of
community
development
and
our
sort
of
slogan
is
that
we're
created
to
take
advantage
of
the
the
built-in
synergies?
There's
five
departments.
We
have
these
built-in
synergies
that
will
increase
prosperity
and
improve
quality
of
life.
I
So
it's
an
overview
of
our
leadership.
I
am
the
director
of
the
department
and
there
are
five
underneath
of
me:
affordable
housing,
land
use,
tourism,
arts
and
culture
and
economic
development,
starting
with
alex
and
affordable
housing.
She
actually
has
two
staff
in
a
vacant
position.
She
does
a
lot
of
work
on
hud,
but
she's
a
mixture.
I
I
call
it
two
divisions:
she
does
development
and
services
and
she's
here
I
think,
still
online
and
she
might
want
to
go
into
what's
the
difference
between
the
housing,
development
and
housing
services
and
she
was
working
on
the
santa
fe
suites
project
for
the
cares
act
grant
on
the
arts
and
culture
side.
There's
pauline
kamiyama.
I
She
has
two
staff,
just
two
vacant
staff,
they're
unfunded
right
now,
but
she
has
two
staff
working
with
her
and
then
she
had
a
series
of
covet
karzak
projects
that
I'll
go
into
a
little
bit
detail
a
kova,
safe
videos,
a
photo
lab
and
professional
development
and
some
community
grants,
and
then
I'm
also
the
director
of
economic
development.
So
I
still
have
my
working
groups
on
top
of
community
development
and
that's
just
the
economic
development
group,
and
then
we
have
small
business
growth
with
business
licensing.
I
We
have
asset
development
and
also
midtown
redevelopment,
and
there
are
eight
of
us
on
that
team,
including
me,
and
then
some
of
the
cares
act.
Programs
that
we
worked
on
were
small
business
and
nonprofits
continuity
program,
santa
fe
promise
which
is
still
in
play
and
then
we're
putting
public
wi-fi
right
now.
I
We've
finished
the
community,
centers
and
libraries
we're
working
on
districts
three
and
four,
and
then
we
have
tourism
with
randy
randall
who's,
the
director,
and
he
has
two
divisions
and
about
40
staff,
and
he
used
some
of
the
karzak
money
at
the
convention
center
to
put
synchronous
wireless.
It
just
means
that
if
you're
there,
the
same
amount
of
of
data
that
you
can
get
to
go
up
and
down.
If
you
have
a
document
you
want
to
send
out
or
a
document
you
want
to
receive.
I
It
is
easy
to
do
now,
because
it
used
to
be
that
you
would
take
you
10
minutes
to
upload
something,
and
then
it
takes
you
30
minutes
to
download
it.
So
we
now
have
it
so
it's
synchronous
and
then
they
updated
the
air
purification
system,
as
you
know,
we're
going
through
a
pandemic.
So
as
we
come
out
of
it,
this
is
a
nice
benefit
to
have
at
our
convention
center.
I
And
lastly,
we
have
land
use
and
planning
e.I
isaacson
is
the
director.
There
are
six
divisions
there
and
about
47
staff
may
include
buildings,
inspections,
enforcement,
engineering,
history,
preservation
planning
and
mpo,
and
jason
cluck
is
the
assistant
director
there
and
they
collaborated
on
the
karzak
project,
where
eli
took
the
lead
with
me
and
the
team
on
the
santa
fe
promise
campaign.
I
So
now
I
move
into
some
of
the
stats
that
I'm
collecting
and
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
again.
I
will
share
this
whole
debt
with
you
after
this
meeting,
because
I
just
compiled
it
over
the
last
24
hours,
but
as
of
february
17th,
you
can
see
there's
a
lot
of
housing
projects
in
place.
There's
a
little
legend
at
the
bottom.
Here
you
can
see
at
the
bottom.
I
It
says
district,
one,
there's
472
units
56
of
them
are
affordable,
mr2,
739,
45,
affordable
district
3,
there's
1580
with
73,
affordable
and
district
4.
There's
2
574
units
with
377,
affordable.
I
Some
of
the
stats
that
deal
with
that
that
map
there
is
that
there's
a
development
pipeline
that
I'm
working
with
eli
and
his
group.
There
are
seven
developments
to
be
built.
There's
construction
units
about
760
there
under
approval,
the
set
19
with
1705.
I
The
pending
ones,
are
five
of
them.
There's
894
units
there
and
then
plaques
recorded
three
with
the
33
units
in
those
plaques
recorded.
Then
under
construction
there
are
19
with
a
total
of
1768
units,
so
you
can
see
from
just
these
stats
that
there
is
a
lot
of
housing
happening
in
santa
fe
and
construction
is
one
of
the
fastest
growing
industry
sectors.
I
We
have
right
now
also
there's
the
permitting
group
which
I
don't
think
some
people
follow
at
all,
but
they
have
been
very
busy
from
july
of
last
year
to
the
present
they've
issued
3
871
permits,
with
a
valuation
of
over
223
million
dollars
and
in
fees
they've
collected
5
million
in
fees.
I
Moving
on
to
housing,
as
I
said
from
the
karzak
grant,
alex
and
team
worked
on
the
santa
fe
suites
purchase,
the
seven
million
dollar
purchase,
two
million
was
provided
by
the
cares
act
funds
it
came
in
just
at
the
end
of
the
year
december.
31St
become
it
closed
just
at
the
deadline
date.
I
There's
122
units
there,
probably
fifty
percent,
as
she
said,
released
up
and
then
she's
using
kind
of
a
property
management
model
which
is
a
third
set
aside
with
supportive
services
and
their
focus
on
high
needs
tenants
and
then,
as
I
said,
approved
by
hud,
there
could
be
an
additional
580
000
that
could
be
brought
to
bear
to
support
the
services
that
come
with
this
new
purchase
with
santa
fe
suites.
I
I
A
thousand
a
general
fund
has
been
used
to
do
the
accomplish
these
following
things:
130
rental,
housing
situations,
et
cetera,
20,
homeowners,
27,
home
buying
families,
and
then
there
are
800
households
that,
through
the
city
of
support
of
programs,
have
training
and
are
certified
buyer
ready,
which
is
a
really
nice
number
that
800
and
then
we're
supporting
financial
counseling
for
about
250
households
annually.
I
Moving
on
to
arts
and
culture.
This
is
just
the
land
of
some
of
the
cares
act,
projects
that
they
worked
on.
They
were
mostly
workforce
development,
which
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
wanted
to
do
to
stimulate
the
economy,
so
they
had
a
professional
development
workforce
training
program
that
was
at
their.
I
forgot
what
the
community
center
and
they
did
digital
marketing
and
recording
and
digital
literacy.
You
can
see
the
number
of
attendees
that
attended.
I
I
Additionally,
they
worked
with
closely
with
us
on
the
santa
fe
promise
on
a
covet,
safe
practice,
video
with
carlos
medina,
which
was
in
spanish,
and
they
I
think
there
were
three
of
them
that
were
done
and
they
did
public
outreach
through
all
different
channels.
But
we
did
a
lot
of
local
radio
and
tv
spots
that
came
with
it
and
then
finally,
they
had
an
arts
community
mini
grant
which
they
gave
750
grants
to
about
50
artists
from
that
standpoint
with
karzak
money.
I
So
you
can
see
that
the
arts
and
culture
group
really
did
leverage
some
of
that
karzak
money
for
an
industry
or
or
sector
of
our
our
city.
That
was
looking
for
support,
but
also
had
a
lot
of
activity
that
helped
them
through
these
times
until
the
next
transit
money
comes
on
the
business
licensing
side.
That's
a
part
of
economic
development.
I
Currently
up
to
date,
we
have
issued
56
new
licenses
and
I
want
to
stress
that
because
we
are
in
a
pandemic
and
an
economic
collapse,
but
we
still
have
issued
56
new
business
licenses,
unique
where
license
is
renewed.
So
far,
we've
renewed
1571.
I
keep
in
mind
that
last
year
the
city
council
approved
a
rolling
license
loss,
so
licenses
of
businesses
now
can
renew
their
license
based
upon
their
issue
date.
So
to
date,
we've
had
1571
process,
but
we
have
about
7
000
businesses
in
the
system
and
I'm
still
trying
to
extract
some
data.
I
To
say
of
that,
seven
thousand
seven
hundred
would
have
closed
and
what
happened-
and
it's
been
a
little
hard
to
get
that,
but
we're
trying
to
work
with
all
of
our
chambers
to
see
if
we
can
get
some
data
that
goes
with
it.
I
They
average
about
120
calls
a
day,
and
there
are
two
people
in
that
department
and
so
to
me,
that's
a
positive
and
negative.
It's
positive
that
so
many
people
are
looking
to
renew
or
looking
to
start
a
business
in
some
way.
Sometimes
it's
tied
to
their
permits.
I
But
that's
a
lot
of
calls,
and
it
just
tells
me
that
there
is
still
high
activity
on
the
business
side
and
so
what
we
want
to
try
to
do
if
the
federal
government
brings
more
grant
money
in
that,
we
can
also
help
stimulate
that
economy
so
that
we
can
actually
increase
that
number
and
maybe
bring
some
staff
in
to
support
that
workload.
I
I
We
also
have
an
interdub
site
that
just
went
live.
We
have
this,
what
they
call
csf,
which
is
a
community
self-service
and
so
we're
starting
to
automate
some
of
the
processes
where
a
business
owner
can
go
to
a
website
and
fill
in
their
information,
and
the
information
comes
into
our
our
licensing
team
and
they
can
process
it
much
quicker
so
that
we
can.
We
can
get
to
those
potentially
thousand
licenses
to
renew.
I
On
the
public
wi-fi
side,
as
I
mentioned,
we
started
over
the
spring
and
summer
with
offering
public
wi-fi
at
our
our
community,
centers
and
libraries,
and
we
are
now
in
the
process
of
expanding
this
public,
wi-fi
and
digital
divide
activities
to
some
of
our
mobile
home
parks
that
are
very
dense
in
districts.
Three
and
four,
and
we're
going
through
all
the
diligence,
the
legal
issues,
the
beginning
of
polls
and
making
sure
that
the
wireless
systems
can
be
put
in.
I
But
right
now
we're
just
collecting
data
on
the
current
installations
that
we
have
and,
as
you
look
at
this
data,
you
can
see
it's
from
august
until
now,
but
right
now
it's
a
flat
usage
and
for
me,
that's
still
a
good
thing
that
it's
flat
that
people
are
still
using
it
and
people
are
still
coming
back.
But
you
can
see
it
comes
up
and
down
based
upon
holidays,
based
upon
when
people
come
and
back
and
forth
to
work
it's
on
until
midnight
every
night.
I
So
so
some
people
may
use
it
after
work
to
use
it
for
accessing
the
internet,
but
some
also
drive
their
kids
to
the
parking
lots
and
do
the
work
for
a
couple
hours
a
day.
So
so
this
usage
document
comes
to
me
on
a
weekly
basis
and
I
sort
of
track
it
to
see
what
are
our
daily
usage.
What
are
our
unique
users,
and
how
do
we
look
like
as
the
as
the
year
goes
on
from
a
public
wi-fi
standpoint?
I
So
moving
to
the
next
section
collaborations,
as
I
said,
the
community
development
is
formed
so
that
we
can
put
some
synergies
together,
all
these
different
departments,
to
work
on
ways
to
increase
our
prosperity
and
also
increase
our
and
build
on
our
sustained
quality
of
life.
So
I
just
put
some
different
examples
of
tourism,
economic
development,
arts
and
culture.
You
can
see
reading
from
this
document
the
types
of
collaborations
that
we've
been
doing
since
we've
been
officially
formed
together,
economic
development
has
been
working
with
land
use.
I
We
now
have
the
land
sales
public
asset
website,
together
working
on
a
scattered
sites,
program
with
affordable
housing
that
we're
hoping
to
get
on
board.
Once
we
get
it
back
to
the
city
council,
tourism
is
working
with
us.
They
helped
us
on
the
karzak
grant,
with
tourism
businesses
getting
grant
money.
I
We
worked
together
on
the
film
commission
they're,
also
working
with
us
and
jennifer
phobian
on
the
community
data
platform,
and
then
we
just
launched
or
have
launched
about
a
month
or
so
ago,
a
new
e-commerce
platform
to
stimulate
the
the
business
economy
called
shop
where
we
live
the
shop
where
I
live
and
if
you're
looking
to
buy
local.
This
is
a
great
place
to
bookmark,
where
I
live.
Calm
and
you'll
see
a
couple
of
the
businesses
we're
trying
to
get
up
to
200
businesses.
I
I
think
right
now
we're
at
about
60,
but
we're
trying
to
get
those
businesses
there
and
then
I'm
gonna
go
up
a
little
bit
and
you
can
see
that
economic
development,
tourism
and
arts
and
culture
we
all
work
together
on
trying
to
get
the
nova
app
launched,
that's
nova.com
and
as
of
today,
I
think
we're
at
920
users
just
a
month
ago
we're
at
620.,
so
it's
still
climbing
and
we're
still
in
the
pandemic,
so
we're
very
interested
in
making
sure
that
all
happens.
I
Also,
the
arts
and
culture
department
has
a
a
a
a
video
that
hopefully
is
going
to
be
amazon.
Prime
of
this
fall,
it's
called
the
story
of
art,
and
so
that
was
a
collaboration
between
tourism
in
the
arts
and
culture
department
and
then
intra
department,
which
means
you
know:
public
works
or
community
health
and
safety
and
community
development.
We
are
also
working
on
different
projects
where
we
have
been
helping
with
connect
tying
our
altogether
santa
fe
program
in
we
also
helped
when
the
pandemic
was
was
in
full
swing
with
the
covet
shelter.
I
I
worked
on
food
security
issues
on
top
of
the
public
wi-fi
and
I
worked
with
the
public
works.
Regina
wheeler
was
in
charge
of
putting
it
up
together
and
then
keira
and
I
worked
on
how
to
get
the
food
security
system
all
set
up
with
the
food
banks,
the
different
delivery
services.
I
We
had
the
meal,
the
hot
meals
program,
with
andrei's
thing
that
we
had
at
the
community
colleges
lincoln
it's
made,
but
we
had
a
hot
meal
program
that
has
served
30,
000
meals,
and
then
we
also
have
been
working
with
public
works,
public
utilities
and
our
full
department
on
this
me
town
development.
I
They
are
part
of
some
of
our
strategic
tactics,
teams
which
we'll
be
sharing
with
you
as
we
go
through
our
monthly
and
weekly
bi-weekly
update
reports,
so
we
do
work
across
those
apartments
and
then
public
works.
Originally,
I
was
working
with
tourism
on
the
downtown
bathrooms,
which
I
think
we
discussed
at
the
finance
meeting
just
the
other
day.
I
So
moving
to
our
next
section
talking
about
goals
going
forward
in
the
next
fiscal
year,
as
I
said,
we're
in
a
covet
a
period
right
now,
the
businesses
are
not
necessarily
at
100,
so
I'm
always
looking
for
ways
to
do
economic
recovery
and
economic
resiliency.
So
I'm
trying
to
strategically
use
my
funding
currently
and
then
looking
at
it
in
the
fy
22
to
build
some
resiliency
in
our
programs.
I
Recently,
I
have
invested
in
some
small
business
accelerator
programs
and
then
recently
also
sponsored
the
new
mexico
angels
to
see
if
we
can
work
with
for
innovation,
to
do
more
webinars,
to
get
more
innovators
out
to
invest
in
our
economy,
again
continue
midtown
master
planning.
I
work
with
public
works
on
that
real
estate
asset
management.
We've
talked
about
that.
There
are
two
parcels
of
many
that
we're
looking
to
get
in
front
of
the
the
city
council,
and
then
we
have
our
website
that
we've
created.
I
We
are
working
with
the
community
college
and
all
of
our
local
economic
advisory
partners
to
create
an
entrepreneurship
hub
that
we
will
house
right
now
at
the
higher
education
center
and
so
we're
hoping
that
we're
all
out
and
fascinated
by
the
fall,
and
we
can
launch
this
ehub,
but
we're
working
with
those
groups.
And
then
tourism
is
working
on.
What
do
we
do
to
jumpstart
that
industry
and
hopefully
can
get
us
back
to
2019
levels?
So
there's
some
economic
recovery
programs
that
we're
working
together
on
that.
I
As
I
said
before
many
times,
that
a
healthy
economy
is
a
diverse
economy.
So
I'm
looking
at
how
do
I
revive
and
develop
in
our
industry
clusters?
We
can't
just
necessarily
rely
on
tourism.
We
have
to
rely
on
other
industries
so
that
we
can
balance
out
our
livelihoods
and
opportunities
in
the
city.
I
So
these
are
some
of
the
areas
of
industry
sectors
that
we
are
constantly
monitoring
and
constantly
keeping
in
touch
with
either
from
an
expansion
standpoint
from
a
recruitment
standpoint
or
an
engagement
standpoint,
and
then
we
are
also
working
with
alex
on
a
long-term
housing
development
plan.
So
we're
collaborating
on
that.
For
the
fy22,
so
we're
setting
aside
some
funding
for
that
then
we're
looking
at
in
the
fall
the
global
entrepreneur
week
just
another
way
to
engage
our
local
businesses.
I
We've
been
a
partner
with
this
global
program
for
three
years,
so
this
will
be
our
fourth
year
coming
in
and
then
I
think
recently
there
was
a
presentation
on
the
community
data
platform
just
a
great
way
for
us
to
provide
a
dashboard
for
all
of
our
constituents
residents.
Business
tourists
to
understand
how
healthy
and
successful
is
our
city.
How
do
we
benchmark
success?
I
I
I
Excuse
me,
my
last
slide
really
just
focus
on
the
future.
It's
all
aspirational,
but
I
wanted
to
at
least
share
this
with
you,
because
this
is
a
part
of
what
we're
we'll
be
talking
about.
This
fy23
will
come
in
a
blink
of
an
eye,
but
developing
guidance
on
place,
making
and
place
keeping.
It
just
means
that
if
we
look
at
santa
fe
as
a
as
a
really
interesting
city,
where
people
are
coming
to
start,
businesses
or
businesses
are
expanding,
how
do
we
make
it
so
that
we
talk
about
walkability?
I
How
do
we
make
it
so
that
we
talk
about
housing?
I
heard
something
the
other
day
I
thought
was
it
stuck
with
me
for
the
last
couple
days
is
that
someone
had
mentioned
that
most
people
have
better
memories
of
college,
because
it's
the
first
time
in
their
lives
that
they
were
able
to
walk
around
and
do
all
kinds
of
things
right
outside
their
door.
I
Normally
you
grow
up.
You
drive
your
car
everywhere,
but
when
you
get
to
college,
you
have
like
a
10
block
radius
where
everything's
at
your
fingertips
right-
and
I
thought
that
was
pretty
fascinating,
but
that's
sort
of
what
place
king
is
about
is
how
do
we
build
a
city
of
the
future
and
keep
the
past
but
figure
out
ways
where
we
still
draw
our
our
young
people
in
and
also
make
it
a
place
with
that's
quite
livable,
but
think
about
sustainability
and
the
things
like
walkability
we're.
I
Also
looking
at
building
a
growth
management,
optimization
strategy
that
all
ties
into
placekeeping
too.
But
it's
really
about
creating
a
long-range
plan.
We
don't
have
a
long-range
planning
office
right
now,
but
we
also
learned
that
you
don't
necessarily
need
a
long-range
planning
office.
You
can
start
with
little
steps
and
build
growth,
optimization
into
strategic
plans
and
this
department,
because
we're
now
sort
of
pulled
together
we
can,
we
can
work
together
to
get
that
done
again.
I
Strategic
investments
looking
at
possibly
getting
our
windfall
on
from
any
of
our
land
sales
increases
the
capacity
of
land
use,
planning
and
permits.
As
you
know,
there
was
five
million
dollars
in
fees
collected
in
permits,
talk
about
transportation
and
mobility
that
falls
back
to
the
place,
keeping
and
then
the
regional
innovation
corridor.
Again
is
a
part
of
this
peacekeeping
idea.
I
I
They
want
to
sort
of
see
that
coming
from
downtown
to
the
south
side
by
presbyterian
hospital,
but
also
figure
out
what
the
multi-modal
transportation
ways
to
get
there
so
that
you
could
get
from
downtown
to
presbyterian
in
10
minutes
versus
making
your
way
down,
cerrios
with
15
sublights
and
then.
Lastly,
I
have
county
wide
fiber.
I
I
We
are
using
fiber
to
have
this
meeting
and
some
are
on
some
are
off,
but
we
know
that
we
have
to
figure
out
what
the
architecture
is
to
get
some
competitive
options
here,
work
with
the
county
and
then
also
we're
looking
at,
hopefully,
the
new
federal
government
bringing
in
some
grants
for
fiber,
because
I
know
that's
a
part
of
what
the
biden
administration
is
about
is
fiber
and
broadband
is
a
key
issue,
they're
focusing
on
the
rural
areas,
but
we're
hoping
that
our
county
city
partnership
might
be
able
to
give
us
some
of
that
that
fiber
money
that's
coming
in
okay
with
that,
I'm
open
for
questions,
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
B
Thank
you
rich
questions
from
the
committee
councilor,
garcia.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
rich.
Your
comment
about
college
made
me
reflect
back
on
my
days
and
I
don't
know
if
it
was
walkability
that
made
it
so
memorable
for
me
some
of
it,
but
but
it
definitely
was
a
memorable
time
period
of
my
life.
I
I.
D
I
really
appreciate
this
update
and
I
just
want
to
give
a
quick
shout
out
to
you
know
all
this:
the
city
staff
that
worked
hard
to
accomplish
what
you
know,
this
presentation
that
you
just
ran
through
it's
it's
really
great
to
see
what
what
is
being
accomplished.
I
think
my
challenge
is
I'm
trying
to
extrapolate
what
accomplishments
have
been
or
can
be
attributed
to
the
reorganization.
D
We
probably
all
remember
when
we
were
looking
at
the
proposal.
I
wanted
to
be
able
to
quantify
and
see
data
how
we
can
attribute
success
to
the
reorganization
and
right
now,
I'm
still
not
able
to
do
that,
and
I
know
you
mentioned
you're
collecting
data
and-
and
I
really
appreciate
that,
and
hopefully,
as
you
collect,
that
data
we'll
be
able
to
quantify
this
is
due
this.
These
successes
are
due
sold
to
reorganization.
D
This
I
mean
because,
right
now
I
to
be
honest,
I
don't
see
anything
that
wouldn't
have
been
accomplished
if
their
reorganization
hadn't
been
approved,
and
I'm
not
saying
that's
the
case.
I
just
can't
decipher
that
right
now
and
there's
nothing
justifying
that.
So
so
with
that,
as
you,
as
I
mentioned,
as
you
collect
the
data,
if
we
can
extrapolate
that
and
figure
out
how
to
present
that,
I
would
really
appreciate
that
and
in
in
addition,
as
we're
collecting
the
data,
I'd
also
like
to
understand
where
there
are
still
gaps.
D
I
I
think
you
know
it's
it's
great,
to
rally
around
the
successes
that
have
been
had
these
past
six
months,
but
we
also
want
to
understand
and
clearly
understand
what
might
have
been
the
challenges
these
past
six
months.
That
way,
we
can
determine
how
we
resolve
that
and
how
we
set
a
plan
moving
forward.
We
don't
want
to
turn
a
blind
eye
to
that.
I
think
focus
on
the
good
just
as
much
as
we
focus
on
the
bad.
D
I
like
the
way
that
we're
starting
to
not
only
look
beyond
this
upcoming
fiscal
year
but
fiscal
year
down
the
road
and
how
we're
looking
at
partnering
up
with
you,
know
santa
fe
county,
potentially
tribal
entities,
because
I
think
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day
sure
the
city
we've
got
to
focus
on
what's
going
on
within
our
boundaries,
but
we're
all
in
this
together,
and
so
with
that
being
said,
how
does
the
state
of
new
mexico
play
with
this?
D
You
know
you
did
mention
looking
at
federal
grants
for
resources,
but
we
I.
I
really
appreciate
that
foresight,
because
you
know
that's
something.
We
need
to
do
in
the
sense
that
forecasting
and
planning
is
necessary
because
sometimes
getting
things
accomplished
is
not
a
six-month
process.
D
It
is
sometimes
a
five-year
process
and
I,
like
I
said,
just
appreciate
that
foresight
rich,
don't
really
have
any
questions,
just
a
recommendation
as
we
as
you
begin
to
look
at
that
data
if
we
can
pull
it
together
in
some
way
or
form,
as
I
requested,
but
but
other
than
that.
No
questions
thanks.
So
much
rich.
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
work.
Putting
this
presentation
together
and
I
appreciate
all
the
information
provided.
L
Thank
you
very
much
yeah.
You
know
I
do
have
that
similar
question
of
you
know
what
is
attributable
to
the
reorg.
How
has
this
been
successful
and
and
rich?
Do
you?
L
I
Madam
chair
and
council
cousin
sanchez.
Yes,
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
put
the
collaborations
in
there
is
because
I
force
those
different
collaborations
to
come
to
the
table
with
one
goal
and,
as
I
said,
I
don't
have
all
the
data
yet,
and
I
appreciate
council
garcia's
comment
about
collecting
the
data,
because
I
know
that
it's
going
to
probably
be
fy
22
when
I
can
actually
see
some
of
the
results.
I
So
those
collaborations
I
could
have
mapped
into
short
term
medium
term
long
term,
and
so
so
looking
at
managing
from
from
a
director
level
and
making
sure
that
all
of
them
know
that
we
have
an
aligned
mission
instead
of
just
land
use
being
the
charge.
And
then
you
come
back
and
say:
oh,
my
god,
I
forgot,
I
should
have
called
the
housing
people.
You
know
we
can
come
together
and
sort
of
build
up
on
what
we
have
and
so
we
aligned
at
the
goal.
I
So
when
I
talked
about
the
fy
22
goals,
they
are
based
upon
those
five
departments,
all
of
us
sitting
together
to
say
what
are
the
key
things
that
you
will
see
on
every
budget.
Hearing
that
we're
all
doing
so,
all
those
goals
sort
of
map
to
what
this
align
group
is
going
to
do.
What
I'm
I'm
I'm
hoping
to
do
from
this
collaboration.
I
As
I
showed
you
is
that
by
the
end
of
june,
I
will
be
able
to
sort
of
say
what
sort
of
stats
have
come
out
of
it,
because
you
know
I'm
monitoring
all
of
those
as
we
speak
so
so
I
do
think
that
the
collaborations
were
something
that
I
they
weren't
artificial.
I
kind
of
forced
them
all.
Some
were
already
in
place
because
of
cares
act,
but
but
that's
kind
of
the
plan
right
now.
As
I
see
it,.
L
Well,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
you
highlighting
that
you
know.
Of
course,
we
only
see
what
you
present
us
and
we
don't
get
to
be
in
all
those
meetings
so
being
able
to
provide
that
information
is
helpful.
Yeah.
I
was
happy
to
see
some
discussion
of
of
planning
on
there.
That's
actually
something
I've
been
speaking
about
in
a
number
of
different
meetings.
Is
this
new
understanding
of
how
really
planning
our
city
is
important
and
bringing
in
all
those
different
factors?
L
One
thing
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
are
thinking
about
as
well
as
how
we
are
building
our
city
capacity
to
achieve
these
goals,
and
this
is
something
that
I've
I've
been
kind
of
mulling
over
is
looking
at,
where
we
need
resources
and
staff
resources
in
our
department
to
make
sure
that
this
work
is
ongoing
and
that
it's
not
just
great,
we
updated
the
general
plan.
That's
wonderful!
We're
going
to
leave
it
again
for
another
22
years,
and
then
22
years
later
we
have
another
council.
L
That's
sitting
here
saying
hold
on
a
second.
We
are
operating
from
an
old
plan,
so
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
be
thinking
about
as
we
are
looking
at
these
goals.
Specifically,
it
comes
to
mind
for
me,
for
for
planning
and
for
that
land
use
piece,
but
also
with
affordable
housing
and
with
economic
development
and
all
these
different
areas.
L
How
do
we
make
sure
that
we're
building
the
city's
internal
capacity
that
it's
not
just
a
one
shot
where
we
infuse
with
this
new
program,
this
new
idea
this
new
project
and
then
it
languishes,
but
really?
How
are
we
building
that
structure?
So
that's
something
that
I'll
be
interested
to
see
more
about
as
proposals
come
forward
for
budget
this
year
and
in
other
years,
when
there
are
more
dollars,
but
even
starting
to
build
those
foundations.
L
Now
I
think,
is
really
important
and
then
how
those
synergies
also
occur
and
looking
at
how
we
are
building
that
capacity
between
the
departments
within
the
departments.
It's
it's
the
words
get
hard
as
we
did
not
change
the
departments
within
the
departments.
So
I
do
appreciate
you
bringing
this
forward.
I
do
look
forward
to
further
updates
and
as
well
as
counselor
garcia
mentioned
the
data
and
how
we
can
quantitatively
and
qualitatively.
L
I
come
from
a
world
where
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
with
qualitative
data,
so
how
we
can
be
looking
at
where
this
reorg
has
been
beneficial
and
to
counsel
garcia's
point
where
there
might
be
holes
or
places
that
we
feel
we
miss
the
mark
and
looking
at
how
we
can
continue
to
course
correct
and
move
forward.
I
I
If
we
don't
start
the
replacement
process
now
we
will
work
walk
backwards
because
we
still
have
to
take
paper
and
put
it
into
computers
right.
So
I
think
you're
correct
that
we're
not
looking
at
job
skill,
training
and
the
capacity
of
our
city
to
sustain
itself.
We
need
to
that's
one
of
the
areas
that
I
believe
is
is
important
for
us
as
we
as
we
move
forward
into
the
future.
L
Yeah
and
I'll
just
I'll
just
add
to
that
just
opportunities,
for
you
know
even
staff,
that's
not
retiring,
but
just
for
growth
within
our
staff.
We
know
that
if,
if
people
don't
see
growth
at
their
current
employer,
they
may
they
may
leave
and
so
providing
challenging
opportunities,
providing
structures
for
individuals
to
move
up
and
and
develop.
C
C
K
Before
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thanks
to
my
colleague
colleagues,
I
had
the
same
questions
for
director
brown
and
thank
you
director
brown,
for
the
presentation.
It
was
actually
helpful
to
kind
of
see
how
everything's
connected
or
what
what's
been
going
on
since
the
reorg,
and
I
think
what
I
came
out
with
too
is
still
thinking
about
the
capacity
aspect
and
just
seeing
you
again
re
reminding
us
that
you're
doing
double
duty.
K
I
don't
know.
I
appreciate
that
you're
doing
that,
I
don't
know
how
sustainable
that
is.
I
think
it's
really
challenging.
There's
a
lot
going
on
not
just
to
cover
all
bases
of
all
the
different
departments
within
the
department,
but
then
also
economic
development.
There's
a
lot
there's
a
lot
that
needs
to
be
done
so
it
it
makes
me
think
about
the
capacity
issue
and
then
making
sure,
as
we
think
about
the
upcoming
budget.
K
And
the
next
fiscal
year
to
make
sure
that
we're
fully
staffed
we've
had
those
gaps
for
a
while
and
then
the
furloughs
didn't
help
and
the
economic
downturn
and
so
and
our
budget
deficit.
So
all
of
that
combined
has
created
these
holes
for
us,
and
I
just
really
want
to
stress
to
think
about-
and
I
know
you
probably
are,
but
the
fully
being
fully
staffed
so
that
land
use
we
can
increase
the
capacity.
I
know
that
was
one
of
the
goals
you
listed
increasing
capacity
of
the
land
use
permits
division.
K
Well,
in
my
mind,
it's
also
to
make
sure
that
we
have
enough
staff
people
to
do
the
job
and
then
affordable
housing
things
that
we
have
talked
about
wanting
to
do
to
support,
affordable
housing
and
what
it
would
take
and
what
staff
capacity
we
have
well
right.
Now
we
don't
have
what
we
need
in
order
to
do
what
we
need
to
do
so
all
those
combined.
K
We've
lost
a
lot
of
people
in
different
departments
for
various
reasons,
but
you
know
it's
like.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
people
and
empower
them
to
to
to
do
the
kind
of
work
that
they
want
to
do
and,
if
they're
not
in
the
right
place
to
place
them,
maybe
somewhere
where
they
can
feel
more
empowered
and
proud
about
their
job.
K
And
so
I
just
I
want
us
to
think
about
that
more
fully
and
it's
it's
a
lot
as
a
director
to
think
about
everybody,
you're
managing
people,
but
you're,
also
managing
yourself
and
trying
to
figure
out
what's
the
best
way
to
handle
this
work.
So
thank
you
for
sticking.
It
sticking
it
out
with
us,
and
I
appreciate
you
and
I
hope
that
you
know,
as
we
go
into
budget
hearings,
that
we'll
talk
about
this
more
and
hopefully
be
able
to
step
up
again.
So
thank
you.
B
All
right,
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
up
director
brown
just
want
to.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
I
I
really
appreciate.
I
think
what
this
reorganization
has
done
is
the
interdisciplinary
work,
the
cross,
the
cross
departments,
where
you've
got
people
from
different
expertise
or
different
focus
points
working
together
towards
a
project.
B
I
I
think
that
is
going
to
be
very
important
moving
forward,
so
I
love
the
collaboration
slides
that
you
showed
I've
been
aware
of
some
of
that
work,
just
in
my
interactions
with
staff
around
various
things,
but
it's
good
to
see
it
summarized
so
I,
and-
and
that's
that
to
me-
is
one
of
the
very
exciting
parts
about
this
reorg,
and
I
think
you
know
our
budget
challenges
unfortunately,
are
going
to
be
with
us
for
a
while.
B
B
Five
years,
I
think
is,
was
sticking
in
my
head,
as,
as
you
know
how
long
it'll
take
you
know,
assuming
we
just
keep
marching
forward,
we
don't
have
anything
else
that
makes
us
slip
backwards,
so
I
think
it's
going
to
be
more
important
than
ever
to
be
laying
the
foundations
that
we
can
so
that
when
we
do
hit
a
place
where
we
can
be
fully
staffed,
we'll
be
able
to
just
move
full
steam
ahead
and-
and
I
appreciate
the
work
that
you
do
wearing
the
multiple
hats
that
you
do
while
we
don't
have
the
revenue
to
hire
people
to
to
wear
all
those
hats
with
you.
B
B
All
right,
I
think,
from
there
we
go
to
matters
from
staff.
Jennifer.
Do
you
have
anything
nothing
for
me
tonight,
madam
chair?
Okay,
matters
from
the
committee.
B
All
right
matters
from
the
chair.
I
have
nothing
other
than
to
say
that
our
next
meeting
is
march
3rd
and
really
appreciate
the
conversation
tonight.
Thank
you.
Everyone
and
we'll
see
you
at
the
next
round
good
night
hi
to
everyone.