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D
D
B
I
am
here
all
right:
we
have
a
quorum
if
we
could
get
a
motion
to
change
or
everything
to
change,
to
approve
the
agenda,
assuming
there
are
no
changes
from
any
of
the
committee.
B
Members,
okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
by
council
viral
and
a
second
by
councillor,
cassette
sanchez,
to
approve
the
agenda
and
if
we
could
do
another
roll
call,
vote,
that'd
be
great.
B
E
B
B
Is
there
a
second
all
right?
We
have
a
motion
from
council
garcia
to
approve
the
consent
agenda,
second
from
counselor
via
real,
and
if
we
could
again
call
the
role
on
approval
of
the
consent
agenda,
counselor.
D
B
Yes,
all
right
with
that,
we
will
then
go
to.
Are
there
changes
to
the
minutes
from
january
20th
meeting
of
this
committee,
and
if
there
are
no
changes,
a
motion
would
be
wonderful.
F
B
We
have
a
motion
from
counselor
cassette
sanchez,
a
second
from
councillor
garcia,
to
approve
the
minutes
of
january
20th
quality
of
life
committee,
one
more
time
a
roll
call
on
this
item.
Please
councilwoman.
B
Yes,
all
right
so
with
that
we
move
on
to
our
discussion
items,
which
I
do
not
see
any
for
action.
So
then
we'll
move
to
presentations.
We
do
have
four
presentations
tonight.
I
want
to
thank
all
of
our
guests
who
are
joining
us
for
what
I
think
will
be
very
informative
presentations
on
some
reports
that
have
been
worked
on
by
a
number
of
advocates
in
the
community.
B
We
continue
our
focus
on
affordable
housing,
as
the
council
is
working
in
this
area
and
very
interested
in
making
sure
we
continue
to
address
the
great
need
for
affordable
housing
in
our
community.
With
that,
I
would
like
to
start
with
the
first
presentation.
Tomas
rivera
has
joined
us
with
the
chain,
breaker
collective.
B
He
has
a
report
entitled
evictions
in
the
covid
19
era,
a
threat
to
family
and
community
health
in
santa
fe,
and
I
believe
he
is
there.
You
are,
I
believe
he
is
on.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
tonight.
I
will
let
you
take
it
away
thanks
thanks,
so
much
tomas
rivera.
G
Thank
you,
cheryl
middleworth
and
city
counselors.
Let's
see
if
I
can
share
my
screen
with
you
here
and
all
right,
a
little
bit
not
great
at
technology.
Give
me
one
second
here.
G
Okay,
so
oh
no,
there
we
go
so,
as
you
said
so
so
for
those
of
you
on
the
call
that
don't
know
chainbreaker
is
a
membership
based
economic
and
environmental
justice
organization.
We
have
about
700
paying
members,
the
bulk
of
whom
are
low-income
people
of
color
and
once
covet
hit.
It
became
very
clear
to
us
that
a
lot
of
our
members
were
concerned
with
and
facing
evictions,
and
that
was
really
rising
to
the
top.
G
So
we
wanted
to
get
a
sense
of
what
that
was
what
the
real
threat
was
and
what
we
could
do
about
it.
So
we
partnered
with
several
folks,
including
including
the
city
and,
oh,
I
don't
know
what
just
happened,
including
including
the
city
alexander,
led
from
the
department
of
affordable
housing
with
unm
law
school
and
with
health,
equity
partnership
and
the
human
impact
partners
out
of
california.
G
That
helped
us
do
some
data
analysis,
so
we
we
had
initially
intended
to
just
have
one
report
on
evictions,
however,
given
several
several
different
components:
one
just
the
ongoing
changing
nature
of
the
pandemic
and
also
the
sort
of
political
changes
in
political
climate
that
were
happening
because
of
the
election
and
the
and
the
change
of
administration.
G
We
decided
to
break
this
up
into
three
separate
reports.
So
what
I'll
be
presenting
on
tonight
is
the
first
in
a
series
of
three
reports
that
sort
of
details,
what
what
we
came
into
and
what
we
were
at
up
until
the
end
of
the
year.
So
that's
the
end
of
december
of
2020
is
what
this
report
covers,
and
so
the
next
report
will
be
coming
out
in
march
early
march,
which
will
deep
dive
into
santa
fe
some
of
the
data
that
we
weren't
able
to
get
up.
G
Until
now,
we
were
able
to
work
with
some
local
court,
the
local
some
some
courts
and
release
some
data
that
we're
gonna
enable
to
analyze.
In
this,
we're
also
going
to
incorporate
some
of
the
covert
relief
money
data
that
we
got
from
distribution
of
the
eviction
prevention
money
as
well.
So
that's
going
to
be
coming
out
at
the
end
of
the
excuse
me
in
early
march,
but
this
report
focuses
on
what
we've
known
up
until
this
point
here
are
our
partners
again,
and
so
really.
G
Some
of
this
will
not
be
news
to
folks
on
this
call,
but
we
really
wanted
to
set
the
stage
of
what
is
the
what
what
we
were
walking
to
and
what
put
people
at
risk.
Pre
pre
pandemic,
that
kind
of
became
exacerbated
by
what
the
covet
19
pandemic,
and
so
I
don't
know
why
this
is
so
out
of
order.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sorry!
That's
actually
not
the
slide
that
I'm
looking
at
so
I'm
gonna
have
to
wing
this
a
little
bit.
I'm
sorry!
No.
G
Okay,
but
I
can
I
can
take
this
so
santa
fe
was
actually
the
first
to
enact
a
moratorium
on
evictions.
As
far
as
we
know
in
new
mexico,
maybe
one
of
the
first
in
the
countries
at
all,
and
so
that
was
of
course,
mayor,
webber's,
emergency
protection
or
excuse
me
emergency
declaration.
G
As
you
all
know-
and
I
think
a
lot
of
folks
on
this
call-
santa
fe
is
takes
a
proactive
approach
to
housing
so
prior
and
during
the
pandemic,
and
that
has
led
to
a
lower
virus
outbreak
in
shelters.
In
fact,
I
think
it's
actually
been
none
as
far
as
we're
aware
of
outbreaks
in
our
shelters.
That
is
something
that
is
certainly
an
important
thing
to
take.
Note
of.
G
There
was
also
direct
cash
assistance
that
we
worked
with
kira
ochoa
and
the
mayor's
office,
and
just
with
the
city
to
distribute
some
cares,
act
funds
directly
into
the
hands
of
renters,
which
is
key
because
a
lot
of
times
renters,
when
when
cassius
is
or
excuse
me
when
rental
assistance
is
going
to
landlords,
sometimes
landlords
refuse
to
take
it,
sometimes
there's
no
lease
agreement.
There
are
many
reasons
why
people
didn't
have
access
to
that.
G
So
this
was
actually
also
very
forward
thinking
and
really
did
a
significant
amount
of
health.
That
distribution
was
3,
000
dollars
per
family,
which
is,
of
course,
not
enough
to
get
us
out
of
this
crisis,
but
was
significantly
very
helpful
and
that
wound
up
being
about
a
half
a
million
dollars
for
eviction
prevention
and
then
close
to
two
million
dollars
total
for
all
of
the
covert
relief
money,
and
that's
just
again
that
we
had
anything
to
do
with.
G
I
know
there
was
a
lot
of
other
funds
happening
all
over
the
place,
and
so
we
can't
speak
to
that
and
of
course
we
highlight
connect
because
we
connect
has
been
critical
in
making
this
happen,
and
I
just
want
to
say
some
of
the
things
that
are
not
reflected
on
this
presentation
are
because
so
like,
for
instance,
the
purchase
of
the
hotel,
which
I
think
has
been
also
really
critical
during
these
times-
is
not
something
that
we
lifted
up
here,
because
that
was
not
work
that
we
had.
G
You
know
we
couldn't
speak
to
that
directly,
but
of
course
I
know
that
you
all
are
aware
of
that.
So
we
framed
this
report,
so
that's
kind
of
we
just
wanted
to
lift
those
up
right
at
the
beginning.
This
report
is
framed
as
a
housing
as
health
report
and
that's
what
all
of
our
reports
have
been
their
health
impact
assessment
reports,
and
I
think
that,
since
the
pandemic
started,
it's
been
much
more
obvious
about
how
the
connections
between
housing
and
health
are
deep.
G
A
lot
of
what
we're
talking
about
with
folks
is
a
lack
of
access
to
the
the
limited
resources
that
they
had
in
terms
of
health
care,
on
top
of
an
just
an
incredible
assault
on
the
mental
health
and
emotional
health
of
a
lot
of
people,
particularly
on
the
front
of
this
eviction
crisis
and
some
of
those
indicators
that
we
found
there
was
that
75
of
new
mexicans-
and
I
just
want
to
say
before
continuing
we
used
with
the
data
that
we
had
available
to
us.
G
So
we
have
a
better
kind
of
picture
of
that,
but
you
know
what
we
what
we
have
for
now
and
there
is
some
santa
fe
specific
data,
but
we
try
to
make
it
clear
about
where
we're
talking
about
what
so
75
percent
of
new
mexicans
lost
income
who
lost
their
income
in
since
march,
have
reported
some
level
of
poor
health
and
again
that
ranges
from
lots
of
different
areas,
including
contracting
covet
64.
So
about
two-thirds.
I
mean
two-thirds
of
folks
are
who
who
are
anticipating.
G
Loss
of
income
also
reported
poor
health,
and
so
that's
that's
folks,
who
have
maybe
come
back
into
the
job
market
or
didn't
lose
their
jobs,
but
are
anticipating
losing
their
jobs
or
saying
that
they
think
that
they're
going
to
run
into
bad
health
in
the
future,
and
a
lot
of
that
is
really
about
mental
health
and
and-
and
you
know,
things
like
increased
suicide-
is
what
we've
been
looking
at
as
well.
Unfortunately,
but
basically
everybody
who
reported
difficulty
paying
for
their
household
expenses
and
their
rent
have
reported
poor
health.
G
So
the
correlation
is
very
clear.
I
think
about
health
and
housing,
and
particularly
the
effect
of
eviction,
which
is
very
well
documented,
which
we
do
point
out
in
this
report
as
well,
and
so
then
we
talk
about
how
just
the
loss
of
income,
which
is
82
of
people
who
have
lost
their
income
of
reported
feeling,
anxious,
nervous
or
on
edge
and
75
of
them
can't
stop
or
control
worrying,
and
these
are
things
ranging
from
like
a
lot
of
times.
G
We
just
want
to
be
clear
here
that
mental
health
and
emotional
health
are
increasingly
understood
as
part
of
a
cohesive
health
system
for
an
individual
and
a
community,
and
particularly
when
we're
living
under
a
global
crisis
like
this,
it
does
lead
to
things
like
suicide.
It
leads
to
things
like
inability
to
work.
G
It
leads
to,
unfortunately,
things
like
abuse
in
the
family
and
also
decreases
health,
because
people
can't
take
care
of
their
physical
health.
Like
you
know,
they
can't
you
know,
they're
more
likely
to
eat
unhealthy
foods
and
access
exercise,
etc.
So
these
are
very
key
components
in
the
health
fields
to
understanding
what
is
basically
coming
right.
So
this
report
is
kind
of
what
is
the
front
of
the
wave.
G
We
highlighted,
what
are
the
actual
moratorium
in
place
and
again
this
is
changing
basically
from
day
to
day,
especially
in
the
early
parts
of
the
pandemic.
G
The
local
one,
which
I
think
you
all
are
familiar
with
mostly
was
an
emergency
plot
commission
that
the
mayor
put
forward
and
is
actually
one
of
the
one
of
the
I
think,
strongest
protections
that
renters
in
santa
fe
are
facing
right
now
and
it
does
not
have
an
end
date
to
it
and,
as
far
as
we
know,
all
indications
and
and
talking
with
the
mayor
and
with
other
folks
in
the
city,
we
don't
expect
that
being
lifted
anytime
soon.
G
However,
at
some
point
we
will
need
to
have
those
conversations,
but
we
just
wanted
to
lay
out
what
is
there,
so
it
stops
landlords
essentially
from
putting
forward
eviction
notices,
which
is
really,
I
think,
different
than
some
of
the
other
moratoriums
that
exist
out
there,
but
with
you
know,
with
the
caveat
that
it's
about
their
inability
to
pay,
and
so
what
this
does,
which
I'm
not
sure.
Actually,
we
point
out
on
this
slide,
but
why
this
is
a
little
bit
different
than
some
of
the
other
moratoriums.
G
Is
it
because
it's
an
emergency
order?
It
actually
makes
it
a
criminal
offense
to
violate
that,
and
that
will
be
important
when
we
discuss
some
of
the
ways
that
we're
going
to
remedy
that
later
on
and
we've
actually
pursued
working
with
the
city
attorney's
office
to
enforce
some
of
that-
and
you
know
it's
a
very-
it's
very-
was
very
rudimentary
it's
hard
to
get
to
that
place,
but
that
is
key
difference
than
the
other
moratorium
that
are
generally
focused
on
the
court
intervention.
G
The
state
also
on
the
new
mexico
supreme
court,
has
issued
a
moratorium
again,
it's
indefinite.
We
don't
anticipate
that
ending
anytime
soon,
but
you
know
at
some
point
it
will
end
and
just
all
indicators
of
how
the
governor
and
how
the
the
state
level
policymakers
have
been
dealing
with
and
working
on
the
pandemic.
We
expect
there
to
be
a
you
know:
we
we
don't
expect
that
to
be
lifted
any
time
soon
and
we
don't
expect
it
to
happen
as
a
surprise.
G
So
then
there's
the
federal
moratorium.
There
have
been
just
multiple
ones
over
time.
There
was
the
cares
act
one.
Then
there
is
currently
the
cdc
moratorium,
and
so
we
focused
mostly
on
the
cdc
moratorium,
which
ended,
which
was
scheduled
to
end
at
the
time
of
this
report
came
out.
G
However,
it
has
since
been
extended
to
the
end
of
march,
and
and
that's
we
know
that
that
will
be
lifted
unless
there's
further
action
by
you
know
on
the
federal
level
there
and
that
action
can
take
place
through
congress
or
it
could
take
place
again
through
the
cdc
or
just
a
decree.
So
there's
a
lot
of
unknowns
happening
on
the
federal
level.
G
What
I
think
is
really
important
to
understand
in
general
about
the
moratoriums
that
ex
or
the
moratorium
that
exists
is
that
almost
all
down
the
road
it
is
protecting
people
from
eviction
for
inability
or
or
non-payment
of
rent,
many
whom
tie
that
directly
to
the
pandemic,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
is
what
are
the
effects
of
that?
How
are
people
getting
around
the
moratorium
on
the
various
levels
of
moratoriums
and
how
that
can
be
strengthened
down
the
road
and
again
those
will
come.
G
So
that,
I
think,
is
basically
setting
understanding
what
protections
for
renters
exist
in
this
moment,
so
we
tried
to
find
okay.
So
what
are
the
actual
effects
and
what
are
the
threats
that
that
are
being
faced
in
this
moment?
Again,
there's
really
hard
to
find
this
data,
because
you
know
the
everything
is
changing
from
one
day
to
the
next,
although
now
you
know
for
the
last
several
months,
we've
been
at
least
some
level
of
stability
that
we
have
experienced.
G
Path,
so
what
we
found
is
that-
and
this
is
again
not
new-
this
is
coming
into
the
pandemic.
Half
of
santa
fe's
tenants
are
rent
burdened
or
paying
more
than
a
third
of
their
income
on
rent.
So
that's
that
is
the
hud's
definitions
of
what
rent
burden
is
and
significant
number
of
those
folks
around
25
percent
to
30
percent
are
severely
cost
burden,
which
means
that
they
pay
half
of
their
income
on
rent,
and
so
you
know
we
pointed
this
out,
knowing
that
folks
are
actually
vulnerable
to
evictions
prior
to
the
pandemic.
G
Those
wages
in
those
industries
locally,
and
also
you
know,
as
a
general
and
around
the
country,
have
remained
stagnant
and
jobs
in
terms
of
tourism,
as,
as
you
all
know,
are
also
unstable.
They
are
seasonal,
they're
kind
of
at
the
whim
of
the
of
the
changes
in
market
fluctuations.
G
Again
outside
of
that,
and
of
course,
it
is
very
obvious
that
during
the
pandemic,
when
that
hit
and
basically
shut
down
the
tourism
industry
all
over
the
world,
they
were
significantly
hit
there
and
so
about
30
31
of
renters
work
in
these
industries
and
have
been
affected
by
pandemic
closures
directly.
G
And
you
know
what
this
data
doesn't
take
into.
Account
is
people
who
have
been
had
had
who
are
working
under
the
table
or
have
reduced
hours
who
are
still
working.
This
is
about
a
third
of
people
who
have
been
significantly
impacted
by
closures
either
because
a
business
went
under
or
because
they
just
laid
people
off
or
or
reduced
staff.
G
All
of
these
put
added
pressure-
or
all
of
these
are
the
pressures
that
existed
on
renters
coming
into
the
pandemic,
and
so
as
the
pandemic
started,
which
we
identified
as
march
early
march,
or
I
should
say
just
march
starting
in
march,
because
it
was
very
early
in
march,
we've
seen
about
58
of
workers
have
lost
their
income
or
lost
employment,
which
is
of
course,
quite
staggering.
G
G
We
will
do
updates
in
the
coming
reports,
but
so
that's
a
third
of
folks
on
who
who
have,
who
have
either
experienced
a
loss
of
income
or
have
not
experienced
a
loss
of
income
but
anticipated
doing
so
up
until
that
point,
we
see
that
latino
residents,
families
with
children
and
households
with
income
of
less
than
30
percent,
all
all
key
social
determinants
of
health
in
the
first
place,
which
puts
people
at
risk
immediately,
are
at
greater
risk
of
of
being
evicted
at
this
moment
in
proportion
to
new
mexicans.
G
Generally
so
again,
we
have
53
percent
of
latino
residents,
58
of
families
with
children
and
56
of
people
who
are
35
000
or
less
in
income
a
year.
So
those
are
the
folks
that
are
getting
hit
the
hardest
right
now,
over
half
in
each
of
those
demographics
about
a
third
of
people
about
31
percent,
have
are
falling,
have
fallen
behind
on
rent
and
reporting
that
they
don't
have
any
confidence
in
paying.
G
G
Mostly,
this
is
food
and
medicine
and
transportation
costs,
and
so
what
this
number,
how
we
interpret
this
number
right
now
is
that
people
are
choosing
to
pay
their
rent
over
choosing
to
pay
for
things
like
food
and
health
care,
which
is,
of
course
leading
to
long-term
effects
on
their
bodies
and
all
the
communities
and
people
are
prioritizing
paying
their
rent,
which
is
exists.
G
So
in
the
third
report,
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
policy
recommendations,
ways
out
we're
going
to
be
kind
of
bucketing,
those
into
three
different
phases.
What
can
be
done
during
the
pandemic
in
the
midst
of
the
emergency
that
still
exists
and
will
still
exist
when
that
report
comes
out
what
can
be
done
during
the
recovery
period,
so
that
is
essentially
when
moratoriums
are
lifted.
When
a
majority
people
are
vaccinated,
how?
How
can
we
have
those
kind
of
midterm
policies?
And
what
do
we
need
to
look
at?
What
is
a?
G
What
is
the
lifting
of
a
moratorium
rollout?
Actually,
what
are
the
possibilities?
So
that's
the
second
piece
and
then
the
third
piece
will
be
long
term
again.
You
know
some
people
here
have
have
been
unable
to
pay
their
rent
for
a
year
coming
up
in
march
here
and
and
so
they're
they're.
The
way
that
all
of
these
protections
are
right
now
is
it's.
People
are
expected
to
pay
that
back
in
many
cases
with
fees
and
fines
on
non-payment
behind
it.
G
Some
of
the
folks
that
we've
talked
to
have
compounding
fees
so
they're
paying
a
lot
of
money
per
month,
so
right
now
they're
paying
actually
10
fees
per
month
on
top
of
their
rent.
So
we're
talking
about
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
that
people
will
be
expected
to
pay
when
moratorial
left
and
so
we're
starting
to
look
at
what
has
been
in
place
in
recent
times.
What
are
some
actions
that
have
already
been
taken
that
may
be
relevant
to
this?
G
What
we've
highlighted
so
far
in
this
report
is
the
the
enforcement
of
short-term
rental
violations
not
as
criminal
but
as
civil
civil
enforcement
and
again,
why
that
is
key
is
right.
Now
we
are
very
grateful
that
there's
an
enforcement
mechanism
for
the
emergency
order
of
the
mayor,
because
many
don't
have
any
enforcement
mechanism,
but
we
have
that
having
it
fall
under
criminal.
G
A
criminal
enforcement
mechanism
is
difficult
to
move
forward
there.
It's
it's
hard
to
first
of
all
understand
what
that
is.
It's
hard
to
convince
a
renter
to
work
with
the
police
against
their
landlord.
In
many
cases,
there's
a
lot
of
fear
and
and
apprehension
to
doing
that
again
we
have
been
working
with
the
city
attorney's
office.
We
will
continue
to
do
that
and
in
some
cases
that
has
been
done
successfully.
We've
actually
stopped
some
evictions
through
that.
G
If
you
pursue
you
know,
you
will
face
consequences,
they
stopped
and
a
week,
maybe
two
weeks
later,
they
sent
another
eviction
notice,
not
for
non-payment
or
rent
for
other
reasons
which
are
not
covered
by
the
moratorium.
So
looking
at
the
enforcement
of
these
is
going
to
be
key,
and
I
think
you
know
we
just
kind
of
looked
at
the
short-term
rental.
That's
obviously-
and
you
know-
that's
that's
been
in
headlines
recently
and
I'm
sure
on
your
all's
minds.
G
We
looked
at
housing
costs
in
there.
One
of
the
things
that
I
think
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
is
another
issue
that
this
pandemic
has
caused
is
what
people
are
calling
a
zoom
boom,
and
I
would
encourage
you
all
to
read
an
article
in
the
guardian
that
highlights
santa
fe
and
I
actually,
I
think
that
there's
quotes
from
people
who
are
going
to
give
later
presentations
here
about
that.
G
But
a
lot
of
folks
are
fleeing
larger
cities
coming
to
places
like
santa
fe
and
santa
fe
is,
of
course,
a
hot
market,
even
during
the
pandemic.
For
this,
so
we're
going
to
look
at
how
that
might
increase
displacement
pressure
and
on
on
the
renters
that
are
particularly
vulnerable
right
now
and
so,
of
course,
housing
costs
being
high
in
santa
fe
is
not
new,
but
that
up
10
uptick
is
starting
is
definitely
an
effect
of
the
govid
crisis.
G
G
We
found
that
about
50
700
renters
right
now,
us
are
are
poised
to
be
evicted
when
the
moratorium
ends
so
another
way
of
thinking,
that
is,
that
5
700
people
are
being
protected
by
some
level
of
moratorium.
G
The
state,
the
local
or
the
federal
again,
particularly
the
local
one,
is
the
one
that
we're
mostly
focused
on.
We
think
that
it's
where
we
have
enforcement
mechanisms,
but
that
is
significant
and
we
are
trying
to
be
as
conservative
with
these
numbers
as
possible
because
a
we
want
to
be
real
b.
We
want
to
not
be
alarmist
about
it,
but
we
want
to
present
a
real.
We
want
to
understand
fully
what
we're
up
against.
So
that's
where
that
number
that
we
came
from
of
5700
folks.
G
We
also
looked
at
other
cities
that
have
ended
their
moratoriums,
there's
there's.
For
instance,
in
texas
we
looked
at
austin,
we're
moratorium
suddenly
ended.
G
We
see
an
almost
immediate
spike
in
evictions
and
almost
immediate
spike
in
coven
cases
there,
and
so
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
that
as
well
in
more
detail
to
understand
what
that
looks
like
now,
of
course,
with
vaccine
rollouts,
we
don't
actually
know,
but
we're
going
to
do
our
best
to
fully
understand
the
big
picture
there
and
then
again
by
the
end
of
the
year,
50
50
55
of
residents
expected
loss
of
income
in
december
2020
moving
into
the
new
year.
G
G
So
what
I
think
that
we
need
to
look
at
here
is
that
folks
are
saying
about
a
quarter
of
renters
are
saying:
we
think
we're
going
to
be
evicted
by
the
moratorium
when
the
moratorium
ends,
we've
actually
identified
a
much
higher
number.
So
people
are
actually
conservative
and
I
would
say
that
people
are
actually
hopeful
that
there
are
things
that
are
going
to
be
able
to
protect
them
there.
G
That
has
to
be
a
combination
of
policy
of
financial
support,
and
you
know
doing
things
like
negotiating
with
landlords,
so
we're
going
to
explore
what
those
possibilities
are
on
all
levels
and
try
to
present
them
in
the
third
in
the
third
report.
In
terms
of
recommendations,
what
I
want
to
highlight,
just
before
I
wrap
is
the
biggest
takeaway
from
me
and
how
we're
thinking
about
this
for
our
work
at
chain
breaker
and
how
we're
moving
into
the
next
reports
is.
G
A
lot
of
these
numbers
are
different,
but
they
tend
to
be
sort
of
hovering
right
around
fifty
percent
of
threat
and
thirty
percent
of
of
of
renters
out
there,
and
so
I
like
to
try
to
kind
of
just
bundle
it
for
myself.
So
I
can
wrap
my
head
around
it.
The
way
that
what
this
report
says
to
me
at
this
point
that
the
report
was
taken
is
about
half
of
renters
in
santa
fe,
are
at
risk
of
eviction
and
about
30
percent.
G
About
a
third
of
folks
are
right
on
that
line,
so
they're
facing
an
immediate
threat
of
eviction
in
this
moment
either
because
they
have
been
evicted
which
many
people
are
have
been
because
they're
they've
been
told
by
their
landlords
that
they're
going
to
victim
the
second
that
they
can
or
they
know
that
they're
so
behind
on
rent
that
recovering
from
that
is
completely
impossible,
and
so
I
think
that's
the
main
takeaway
from
all
of
this
and-
and
let
me
see-
I
think,
that's
our
last
one.
G
Yes,
I've
shared
the
report
with,
I
think
all
the
city
councils,
I'm
happy
to
share
with
you
too
now,
but
I'm
not
sure
how,
because
I
don't
think
I
can
chat
with
you.
B
Yes,
so
if
you
can
maybe
stop
sharing
your
screen
and
we'll
go
to
questions
from
the
committee
tomas.
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming
tonight
and
sharing
with
us
the
beginning
of
these
studies
that
that
your
group
and
and
others
are
undertaking.
B
We
do
have
a
number
of
questions,
I'm
just
going
to
take
them
on
the
order
that
they
appear
on
my
column,
because
I
didn't
quite
see
who
went
when
but
counselor
garcia.
I
do
believe
your
hand
up
was
first
anyway,
so.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
tomas
for
the
thorough
presentation.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
think
a
lot
of
what
you
presented
on
you
know
we
we
did
know
about,
but
it
reinforced
the
situation
that
we're
currently
in,
but
also
it
reinforced
the
situation.
That's
ahead
of
us
and
it's
multiple.
For
instance,
you
know,
as
you
mentioned,
the
zoom
boom,
which
is
a
real
challenge
that
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
address
here
and
how
that
that
impacts.
D
The
housing
crisis,
we're
currently
in
one
one
thing
that
I
hadn't
really
thought
too
much
thoroughly
on
and
thank
you
for
bringing
it
up
was
more
so
the
emotional
support
challenges
that
we're
gonna,
we're
seeing
with
with
community
members,
and
we
know
that
there's
gonna
be
long-term
effects
on
that,
and
I
didn't
know
if
you,
through
your
research,
if
you
looked
into
what
other
cities
might
be
doing
and
how
they're
addressing
that
particular
topic,
because
I
think
that's
something
that
we
we
haven't
really
kind
of
took
and
head
on.
G
Thank
you,
cheryl
meadowworth
and
counselor
garcia.
That's
actually
an
interesting
question.
I
think
that
we
we've
looked
into
what
the
effects
are,
but
the
solutions
for
it
is
is
something
I
think
we
can
include
in
the
recommendations
and
look
deeper
into
it.
I
don't
have
that
information
for
you
now,
but
I
can
make
sure
that
we
include
some
of
that
in
the
report.
I
know
that
folks
are
doing
work
on
that
for
sure.
So
we
can
definitely
include
that
in
in
future
reports.
D
Okay,
now
that'd
be
great
just
because
I
think
this
is
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
the
challenge.
That's
going
to
be
long,
impacting
our
community
past
covet
and-
and
I
think
we
want
to
be
able
to
look
at
it
in
a
sustainable
manner.
How
can
we
support
our
community
long
term
long
after
covet
is
way
behind
us,
but
but
thank
you
so
much
tomas
for
the
presentation.
I
really
appreciate
it
and
I
look
forward
to
the
the
on
on
coming
recommendations.
D
B
Right,
thank
you.
Council,
garcia,
councilman,
cassette
sanchez
you're
next
on
my
list
here.
I
G
Thanks
chairman
middleworth
and
counselor
cassette
sanchez,
so
finding
that
information
is
a
significant
challenge,
one
because,
prior
to
this,
we
weren't
able
to
access
it.
I
mean
it
was
really
towards
I
think
in
november
that
we
were
able
to
get
the
courts
to
allow
us
to
use
the
data
that
we
have.
I
think
we
can
deep
dive
into
that
a
little
bit
in
the
second
report
that
comes
out
but
another
one
of
the
challenges.
The
reality
is,
there's
not
a
lot
of
data
out
there.
G
This
data
is
demonstrating
court
filings.
I
mean
that's
how
we
know
court
filings.
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
evictions
happening
happen
to
people
outside
of
the
courts,
which
is
not
the
correct
process
and
which
is
not
legal.
However,
you
know
that
happens
quite
a
bit
and
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
can
track
that.
I
think
our
policy
recommendations
will
include
ways
of
helping
us
to
gather
some
of
that
data
as
well.
G
I
think
there
are
some
solutions
that
we
know
of
that
might
give
us
access
to
that
data,
but
also
create
other
accountability
enforcement
mechanisms
on
that
as
well.
But
I
think
that
the
short
answer
is
very
little
of
that
data.
Do
we
have
beforehand,
but
the
second
report
will
dive
into
a
little
bit
more
of
that,
but
I
think
everybody
should
anticipate
understanding
that
it's
not
going
to
be
the
full
picture.
It's
just
going
to
be
analyzing
the
data
that
we
have
access
to.
I
Okay,
yeah,
I
understand
I
it's
definitely
challenging
data
to
get
the
reason
I
really
bring
it
up.
Is
you
know,
as
we
start
to
look
at
policy
solutions
and
as
councilor
garcia
mentioned,
you
know,
covet
is
going
to
be
long
impacting,
but
we
also
weren't
starting
from
zero.
I
So
even
if
we
try
to
determine
when
the
pandemic
ends
from
when
we
can
all
gather
again
or
whether
we
see
an
economic
recovery
getting
us
back
to
where
we
were
in
2019
really
looking
at
solutions
that
are
recognizing
that,
while
covet
exacerbated
so
many
of
these
issues
that
they
were
already
very
prevalent
in
our
community
to
begin
with,
and
so
some
of
the
emergency
work
that
we
need
to
do
absolutely
is
necessary,
but
looking
at
some
of
those
long-term
solutions
that
are
addressing
the
root
causes
and
and
the
challenges
that
were
there
before.
I
So
I'm
hopeful-
and
I
would
expect
just
from
my
conversations
with
you
in
the
past
that
that
that
will
be
there.
But
that
would
be
something
that,
as
you
are
developing
those
policy
solutions
and
suggestions,
that
I
would
be
very
interested
in
hearing
more
about.
I
All
right,
thank
you
so
much
again
that
we
can.
I
I
understand
it's
hard
dated
again,
but
thank
you
so
much.
I.
I
really
appreciate
the
work
that
you're
doing
in
this
area
and
gathering
that
data
and
getting
this
information.
It
is
very
hard
to
track
down
and
there
are
are
so
many
different
moving
pieces
that
we
have
to
look
at.
So
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
have
this
conversation
with
you.
Thank
you.
B
Great
counselor,
via
real
you're
next
on
my
list.
F
Good
to
see
you
even
if
it's
on
the
screen
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
for
your
team
to
to
put
the
actual
report
together,
it's
it
was
eye-opening.
It
wasn't
surprising,
it's
frustrating
and
there's
a
lot
of
points
that
you
brought
up
that
I
feel
like
I'm
constantly
grappling
with
like
how
does
this
work?
How
do
we
make
that
better?
How
do
we
do
this?
F
But
I
do
wholeheartedly
agree
that,
beyond
the
time
frame
that
for
the
eviction
moratorium,
that
we
need
to
think
of
that
being
extended
past
the
time
frame
that
we
see
health
implications.
F
So
when
things
kind
of
die
down
in
terms
of
numbers-
and
we
don't
consider
it
a
health
crisis
anymore,
there's
this
economic
crisis
that
is
already
in
process,
and
it's
going
to
start
really
opening
even
wider.
I
feel
like
so
the
need
to
extend
a
moratorium
for
evictions.
I
think
really
needs
to
occur
beyond
the
time
frame
that
we're
thinking
about
health,
so
that,
in
itself,
I
think
is
something
that
I
don't
know
if
that
comes
in
the
form
of
an
emergency
order
or
how
the
council
can
facilitate
that
and
support
that.
F
I
think
the
other
thing
on
your
report
that
was
I
consistently
struggle
with
is
the
regulation
of
landlords
and,
as
you
had
said
in
the
report,
the
city
of
santa
fe
does
not
license
or
regulate
landlords,
so
I'm
thinking
like
who
does
who
does
that
right
now?
F
F
So
do
you
see
of
other
ways
that
there's
support
for
the
landlord-tenant
issues
that
we
experience
in
the
city.
G
Yeah
so
again,
thank
you,
chair,
romeo,
worth
and
council
via
real.
Yes,
I
think
that
you
know
there's
there's
something:
I'm
I'm
a
little
hesitant
to
speak
until
we've
done
the
full
research
on
it,
but
yeah.
You
know
the
big
issue
with
the
landlords
with
licensing
landlord
is
one
that
has
been
on
our
radar
for
a
long
time.
G
We've
talked
to
a
lot
of
folks
in
other
municipalities
that
have
experienced
and
actually
passed
some
legislation
about
licensing
landlords
and
also
had
conversations
internally
and
including
some
folks
on
this
call,
I
think
that
the
reality
is
is
is
being
able
to
create
some
sort
of
mechanism
to
license
the
landlord.
Allow
would
first
of
all
allow
us
to
have
a
lot
of
the
data
that
we're
having
a
hard
time
accessing
right
now.
G
I
think
that
it
would
create
a
system
in
which
there
is
some
level
of
mutual
accountability
happening
and
also,
I
think,
one
of
the
issues
that
we're
running
into
here
just
because
chain
breaker
also
operates
our
eviction
prevention
hotline
and
we
do
a
lot
of
organizing
that
is
renter
organizing
some.
You
know
there's
certainly
a
lot
of
cases
where
the
landlord
is
is
acting
with
ill
will,
but
often,
I
think,
especially
because
of
what's
happening
in
the
world
right
now.
People
just
don't
know
so.
G
Some
landlords
have
said
they
tried
to
evict
their
people.
They
didn't
know
now
that
could
be
an
excuse,
but
some
of
those
folks
probably
didn't
really
know,
and
I
think
that
if
we
did
have
a
way
of
licensing
landlords,
I
I
would
envision
it
similar
to
how
the
living
wage
works
right
is
a
business
has
a
business
license,
they
operate,
they
do
their
thing
and
when
the
minimum
wage
goes
up,
they
get
a
notice
from
the
city
there's
no
way
that
they
can
say.
G
Oh,
we
didn't
know
right,
and
then
that
also
includes
an
enforcement
mechanism.
So
that's
certainly
one
of
the
things
that
we
will
be
exploring.
I
think
in
the
next
report
and
our
intention
is
to
find
to
to
to
do
the
best
we
can
to
create
a
list
of
policy
recommendations
that
are
well
researched.
So
we
know
what
is
actually
viable
for
our
communities
as
well,
both
politically
and
legally,
and
to
present
them
to
you
for
recommendations.
F
Yeah
yeah,
I
look
forward
to
hearing
more
about
that
and
I
think
the
statement
that
was
poignant
for
me
in
your
report
is
essentially
saying.
Tenants
should
be
afforded
the
same
protections
similar
to
those
of
short-term
rental
or
rent
short-term
tenants
restrictions,
and
we
work
so
hard
on
the
short-term
rental
ordinance
to
really
like
think
about
all
the
implications,
and
I
think
we
need
to
do
the
same
as
it
relates
to
long-term
renters
and
protections
yeah.
That
was,
I
think
that
was
an
important
point
on
page
nine.
F
But
I'd
like
I
can't
wait
to
hear
more
about
how
what
you're
thinking
what
you're
thinking
is
around
that
and
then
the
last
point
that
I
think
just
frustrates
me
and
I
think
we
all
thought
about
it
as
we
as
the
as
we
approved
the
moratorium
for
evictions,
and
it
was
the
burden
that
is
placed
on
tenants
to
report
and
to
inform-
and
I
don't
even
know
I
was
thinking
about
how
landlords
somehow
should
have
been
informed
about
the
moratorium
and
I
don't
think
they
did
or
other
than
maybe
reading
it
in
the
paper.
F
F
So
that
that
piece
is
just
I
it's
already
hard
enough
people
working
multiple
jobs
to
be
able
to
have
to
jump
through
hoops,
and
so
I'm
wondering
also,
if
your
report
would
talk
about
how
we
can
do
better
and
also
requiring
a
concerted
effort
not
just
from
the
public
sector
but
non-profit,
possibly
public
sector,
a
collaboration
of
education
and
outreach
around
this,
as
we
continue
forward
with
the
moratorium.
I
just
think
that
piece
is
crucial
and
and
if
you
have
ideas
of
how
we
can
expand
that
education,
but
also.
F
Just
the
requirements
for
landlords
and
understanding
the
rules
and
yeah,
I
just
think
even
into
the
future
your
idea
about
licensing
landlords,
it's
going
to
be
important
about
how
we
communicate
that
and
then
also
enforce
it.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
had
any
like
points
about
the
educational
piece
of
that.
G
Sure,
thanks
again
chairman
working
counselor.
Yes,
I
think
that
some
things
are
already
in
the
works
right,
so
the
report
we
want
to
be,
you
know,
as
as
we
want
to
do
our
due
diligence
on
it.
G
You
know
before
we
publish,
but
we
have
been
doing
significant
outreach
and
we've
been
partnering
with
several
departments
with
this
city
right
now
again,
you
know:
we've
been
in
lots
of
conversations
with
the
affordable
housing
department
with
alexandra
ladd,
who
has
contributed
to
this
report
and
has,
of
course,
contributed
to
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
good
work
around
housing
in
santa
fe
and
trying
to
tackle
this
issue.
G
You
know
we
also
were
working
with
the
economic
development
department
to
distribute
some
cove
materials
and
we
included
a
lot
of
the
information
out
there.
We
were
able
to
distribute
close
to
8
000
bags
and
there's
going
to
be
more
work
coming
that
way.
So,
but
I
I
think,
you're
absolutely
right.
A
lot
of
that
has
been
direct
contact
with
the
renter
chain.
Breaker
is,
of
course,
a
a
renter
based
organization.
So
I
think
that's
what
we
know.
G
Well,
that's
where
our
base
is,
but
we
do
have
our
hotline
and
the
need
to
educate
landlords
is
very
strong
as
well
from
our
perspective.
Not
only
is
it
the
work
that
we
do,
but
it's
also
easier
for
us
to
understand
how
to
talk
to
a
renter,
because
hey
we've
been
doing
it
for
a
decade.
We
know
where
to
talk
to
them.
They're,
you
know
they're
at
their
homes
right
a
lot
of
landlords
in
santa
fe,
don't
live
in
santa
fe,
and
so
that's
a
challenge
for
us
as
well.
G
Even
if
they
read
the
newspaper,
you
know
there
needs
to
be
some
mechanism
in
which
they
can
actually
be
reached,
and
so
you
know
again,
I
we
are
going
to
explore
more
deeply
this
concept
of
licensing
landlords
and
what
else
other
municipalities
have
done
so
we're
going
to
reach
into
some
of
our
some
national
organizations
and
our
national
networks
as
well
as
locally
too,
to
try
to
find
out
what
are
the
possibilities
are
for
that.
F
Good
to
know,
what's
the
time
frame
for
the
next
section
of
the
report.
G
March
as
we
we're
gonna
do
our
best
to
bring
them
out
as
close
as
we
possibly
can
they're.
Also
we're
also
aware
that
the
legislative
session
is
happening
right
now,
and
some
policies
might
affect
that
as
well,
so
we're
trying
to
be
as
inclusive
as
we
can,
without
prolonging
it
forever.
G
Okay,
so
wait!
This
is
the
first
of
three
parts:
correct,
correct,
okay,
part
two,
which
is
still
deep,
diving
on
data
probably
mid
to
late
march,
and
I
think,
probably
what's
going
to
be
key
to
us-
is
understanding,
what's
happening
at
the
roundhouse
and
being
able
to
predict
that
on
some
level
and
then
hopefully
soon
following
that
will
be
the
list
of
policy
recommendations
coming
after
that.
So
that's
part.
F
B
Okay,
councilor
rivera.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
tomas,
nice
to
see
you.
You
mentioned
something
about
landlords,
demanding
back
pay
and,
in
some
cases,
remanding
fines
for
back
pay
on
rent,
and
I
I
think
you
said
that
will
be
included
in
the
next
phase
of
of
the
study.
Is
that
correct.
G
Well,
to
the
extent
that
we
can
study
it,
I
mean
I
think
we
we
need
to
address
that
and
I
think
it's
something
that
we
hope
can
be
addressed
through
some
sort
of
policy
or
some
some
mechanism
to
do
that.
But
yes,
it's
currently
an
issue
right
now
and
yeah.
We
it's
gonna,
be
hard
to
find
out
how
much
that
actually
is
because
it's
negotiated
individual
leases,
and
sometimes
it's
just
not
even
negotiated
just
happens
right.
E
All
right:
well,
I
appreciate
you
looking
at
that.
Do
you
think
if
we
extended
the
moratorium,
that
that
would
just
exacerbate
the
problem
of
back
pay
and
fines.
G
Well,
chairwoman
worth
and
counselor
riveta,
I
think
that
extending
the
moratorium
and
keeping
the
moratorium
in
place
for
as
long
as
reasonable
is
super
important.
I
do
think
that,
as
long
as
the
as
long
as
the
moratorium
allows
for
people
to
keep
including
back
rent
and
fines
in
that
it
is
going
to
it's
going
to
increase
for
the
burden
on
the
renter
to
pay
that
back.
G
However,
I
think
that
I
would
I
would
encourage
folks
to
prioritize
keeping
people
housed
through
the
crisis
as
much
as
possible
until
and
to
give
us
as
much
time
as
we
can
to
figure
out
the
other
pieces
of
the
finances
behind.
I
would
to
me
that
is
prioritizing
keeping
people
houses
prioritizing
their
life
over
over
the
background
there.
So
I
would,
I
would
certainly
not
advocate
for
not
extending
the
moratorium
for
that.
E
Reason
all
right
appreciate
that,
and
my
last
thing
I
think,
is
I
don't
know
if
your
next
study
is
gonna
look
at,
and
I
I
just
read
a
little
blurb
about
evictions,
exacerbate
inequities
and
children's
educational
outcomes.
E
G
Think
well
certainly
we're
including
employment
information,
or
at
least
we're
taught
we're
looking
at
employment
information.
I
think
that
there
is
definitely
some
level
of
looking
at
schools
and
school-aged
children
in
this.
That
is
important,
so
I
think
that
we
were
going
to
touch
on
it,
but
we
were
we
were.
G
We
need
to
limit
what
we
actually
go
into,
but
I
can
bump
that
up
on
the
priority,
knowing
that
that's
important
today
to
you,
counselor
and
certain
I
mean
so
yes,
we
will
definitely
look
into
into
that
effect
as
well
and
include
what
we
can
in
there
as
well.
E
Yeah,
I
think
it's
a
big
issue
in
district
three.
I
think
we
see
a
number
of
kids
that
again
fast
food
restaurants
have
been
considered
essential
and
you
see
a
lot
of
kids
that
have
been
high
school
kid
high
school
kids
that
have
been
put
to
work,
to
help
pay
the
bills
and
and
bring
funds
in,
and
it
would
just
be
interesting
to
see
how
many
have
refocused
their
attention
on
having
to
work
versus
their
studies
and
graduating
from
high
school.
G
Forward
and
cheryl
mettleworth
and
council
rebecca,
I
think
what
is
well
documented,
is
the
effects
that
evictions
in
general
have
on
children
in
school
or
school-aged
children
and
their
families.
And
so
I
think
we
can
explore
that
data
a
little
bit
more
and
include
that
and
then
also
do
our
best
to
anticipate
how
the
this
current
wave
of
evictions
or
threat
of
evictions
is
going
to
or
could
play
out
in
the
future
as
well.
E
Thanks
so
much,
I
appreciate
the
work
you
do
and
really
missed
your
showing
up
live
at
the
christmas
event
this
year.
I
think
that
was
a
great
event.
I
look
forward
to
doing
it
this
upcoming
christmas,
but
I
sure
missed
it.
This
past
christmas
appreciate
all
the
work
you
do
thanks.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
B
Okay
again,
thank
you
tomas.
I
I
do
think
coming
to
the
finance
committee.
Chairman
of
beta,
is
scheduling
a
presentation
on
the
rental
assistance
program.
I
think
that'll
be
something
that'll,
be
very
important
information
for
us
to
understand
the
capacity
of
that
program.
We
may
need
it
well,
we
may,
I
think
we
will
certainly
need
more
resources
in
that
area,
and
you
know
I
I've
said
this
before
in
this
pandemic.
B
We
are
really
going
to
have
to
look,
I
think,
to
the
state
and
the
federal
level
for
assistance
in
in
in
dealing
with
this
problem,
because
it's
it's,
you
know
it
seems
like
it's
a
cascading
thing
and
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
way
to
get
a
handle
on
that,
but
all
those
landlords
who
have
not
been
paid
to
the
extent
that
they
are
in
our
community.
B
What
is
that
doing
to
their
economic
situation
and
and
how
does
that
you
know,
impact
just
sort
of
the
greater
economy
of
the
community,
so
this
is.
This
is
a
big
big
problem,
as
you,
as
you
pointed
out
to
us,
and
we're
gonna
really
have
to
to
look
at
it
very
seriously,
because
because
it
has
such
a
a
wide
impact
to
to
those
who
need
housing
and
then
to
the
wider
community
at
large.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
G
Reports,
thank
you,
chair,
rometoworth
and
just
in
closing,
I
think
I
want
to
just
clarify
that
the
recommendations
that
we're
putting
forward
will
be
santa
fe
specific,
but
our
intention
is
to
as
much
as
possible
make
them
so
that
they
are
replicable
and
and
that
they
can
be
adapted
to
other
communities
and,
as
you
said,
there
are
definitely
issues
that
need
to
be
addressed
on
higher
levels,
so
we
want
to
make
them
so
that
they
can
be
expanded
and
adapted
at
least
to
the
state
level.
So
that
is
definitely
on
our
mind
as
well.
B
Great,
and
just
so
you
know,
your
report
was
included
in
the
packet
to
the
community
or
to
the
committee,
so
you
don't
need
to
worry
about.
You
know
sending
it
another
way.
We
all
have
it.
So
thank
you
for
that.
B
Okay,
we
need
to
move
on.
We
have
now
we're
going
to
dive
into
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
At
our
last
committee
meeting,
we
had
presentations
about
that
fund
about
what
it
does
why
it's
important,
and
now
this
evening
we
have
two
presentations
about
how
how
we
different
paths
to
figuring
out
how
to
create
a
stable
funding,
source
and
and
perhaps
a
diverse
portfolio
of
funding
sources
that
would
help
us
sustain
a
particular
level
that
could
be
counted
on
year
to
year.
B
I
I
believe
we
heard
in
finance
monday
night
about
the
importance
of
having
that
money
there,
why
it's
important
to
have
it
consistent
and
at
a
sustainable
level
and
and
the
the
what
was
really
emphasized
there
is
how
that
money
can
be
leveraged
to
get
other
sources.
So
tonight
we
have
a
report
entitled
the
path
home
funding.
The
trust
fund,
michael
barrio,
is
here
with
us.
B
The
executive
director
of
the
santa
fe
housing
action
coalition
and
daniel
werwath,
the
chief
executive
officer
of
the
new
mexico
interfaith
housing
group,
and
I
I
just
want
to
say
you
know
this-
is
an
area
we
are
all
very
interested
in.
I
I
always
reflect
that.
This
was
something
funding.
The
affordable
housing
trust
fund
was
something
I
ran
on
when
I
was
running
for
election.
B
B
Tackle
the
affordable
housing
problem
that
we
do
have
in
this
community.
So
thank
all
thank
you,
michael
and
daniel,
for
being
with
us
tonight.
I
believe
you're
gonna,
you're
gonna
do
a
slide
deck
as
well
correct.
B
B
J
J
All
right
can
everyone
see
the
first
slide,
excellent,
all
right
good
evening,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
first,
thank
you
so
much
for
engaging
with
us
on
this
issue
and,
of
course,
for
providing
this
forum
a
focus.
It's
really
important.
J
I
also
really
want
to
thank
the
city
leadership
for
its
past
and
current
efforts
to
mitigate
and
address
the
issue
that
we're
currently
facing
just
want
to
note
that
we
really
appreciate
your
diligence
and
engagement
in
this
area,
so
we're
here
tonight
to
discuss
our
recently
released
report,
a
path
home
fund,
the
trust
fund,
and,
as
you
know,
our
report
was
born
from
the
precarious
housing
situation
that
we
find
ourselves
in
and
the
necessity
to
urgently
address
it,
and
I
believe
that
chain,
breaker's
presentation
and
report
clearly
demonstrated
that
precariousness
that
I
talk
about,
and
so,
as
we've
shared
in
the
past.
J
We
believe,
obviously,
that
the
city's,
affordable
housing
trust
fund
is
the
best
and
most
flexible
tool.
We
can
leverage
to
actually
address
the
housing,
the
housing
crisis,
and,
to
that
end,
we've
published
the
report
that
each
of
you
have
now
now
this
report
provides
well.
It
does
a
couple
of
things:
it
provides
some
necessary
context
regarding
housing
in
santa
fe.
J
It
also
provides
some
sound
and
compelling
reasoning
for
fully
leveraging
the
trust
fund,
as
well
as
the
coalition's
organizing
principles
for
identifying
and
proposing
potential
funding
streams
for
the
trust
fund.
It
also,
of
course,
includes
an
outline
of
potential
funding
sources
that
can
be
tapped
in
the
short
mid
and
long
term,
and
just
a
quick
note
about
the
solutions
that
we
outline.
J
I
feel
like
it's
important
to
note
that
as
a
coalition,
we
did
not
endorse
a
specific
potential
funding
stream
for
the
reason
that
we're
really
kind
of
playing
in
this
arena,
as
or
operating
in
this
arena
as
technical
experts
that
are
able
to
provide
a
wealth
of
information
and
data
that
can
that
can
help
inform
our
policy
making
decisions.
J
So
again,
the
report
is
really
designed
as
a
technical
document
that
was
made
possible
through
the
collaboration
of
unm
law
clinic
and
santa
fe
county
and
again
that
outlines
the
issue
and
potential
avenues
for
funding
the
trust
fund.
So
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
daniel
wherewith.
Who
will
lead
our
discussion
specifically
on
the
potential
funding
avenues
in
the
report
and
then
how
funding
can
best
be
leveraged.
K
K
K
Had
we
had
three
million
dollars
of
funding
in
our
trust
fund
already
when
we
went
into
this
pandemic
and
the
resilience
that
that
would
offer
and
really
as
the
coalition
in
the
way
that
chain
breaker
is
working
very
much
on
the
ground
and
working
on
quantifying
what
we're
going
through
right
now,
we're
trying
to
figure
out
the
structural
changes
that
can
get
us
out
of
this,
and
really
the
central
focus
of
this
is,
is
the
idea
that
if
we
adequately
fund
our
housing
trust
fund,
it
is
sort
of
the
universal
tool
it's
very
highly
leveraged.
K
It
can
impact
a
range
of
housing
needs
that
we
know
today
and
ones
that
we
don't
know
that
could
emerge
at
any
time
like
a
pandemic.
K
It
just
has
such
a
wide
range
of
benefits,
and
I
think
it's
worth
just
stopping
for
a
second
and
recognizing
this
part
of,
like
a
suite
of
super
advanced
housing
infrastructure
that
we
have
in
santa
fe
like
this.
None
of
this
need
data.
None
of
what
we're
talking
about
tonight
is
to
say
that
santa
fe
doesn't
do
a
good
job
around
housing.
We
are
a
leader
in
the
country.
We
are
innovative.
K
The
question
is
about
the
scale
of
the
problem
that
we're
facing
and
and
just
how
unprecedented
this
is
and-
and
we
had
a
pretty
tough
situation
going
into
it,
and
you
know
the
data
that
we're
looking
at
the
census
data,
which
is
always
a
couple
years
old,
said
that
10
000
families
were
paying
unaffordable,
rents
or
mortgages
going
into
the
pandemic,
and
I
was
assuming
at
least
a
third
of
those
were
being
impacted
by
the
pandemic
and
and
chain.
K
Breakers
numbers
show
that
that's
actually
higher
right,
closer
to
50
5700
households
is
15
000
people
in
santa
fe
right
so
just
important
to
think
about
just
how
the
scope
of
this
is
gigantic,
and
and
also
just
in
framing
thinking
about
the
last
economic
downturn,
the
last
housing
crisis
in
2009.
K
If
we
don't
react
to
this,
and
we
don't
do
what
is
needed
to
do
especially
around
short-term
solutions
around
brent
it,
it
causes
a
chain
reaction,
that's
just
so
hard
to
stop
and
so
expensive
to
stop
the
idea
of
the
cost
of
rehousing
a
family,
the
cost
of
health
interventions,
educational
interventions
that
are
needed
when,
when
families
have
their
housing
disrupted,
it
is
monumental
amounts
of
money.
K
So,
even
when
we
talk
about
things
like
three
or
four
thousand
dollars
of
rental
assistance
now
for
a
family,
it's
nothing
compared
to
the
cost
of
trying
to
fix
that
and
the
bigger
cost
that
the
cost
of
generate
gentrification
that
I
worry
about
right
now.
The
unprecedented
pressure
on
the
local
housing
market
and
the
fact
that
families
that
are
forced
out
of
santa
fe
now
are
likely
never
to
move
back.
It's
a
it's
an
irreversible
change
to
the
culture
of
this
town.
So
that's
it's
heavy
stuff.
K
So
how
do
we
fix
it?
The
trust
fund
is
really
what
we
focused
on
at
the
coalition
level,
as
sort
of
a
three-legged
stool
of
goal,
setting
regulatory
reform
and
funding
affordable
housing.
K
The
goal
of
this
is
that
three
million
dollars
in
dedicated
city
funding
could
leverage
maybe
as
much
as
30
million
dollars
a
year
in
affordable
housing
activities.
The
affordable
housing
trust
fund
is
part
of
an
infrastructure.
That's
some
of
the
most
innovative
in
the
country.
The
trust
fund
was
created
in
2005.
K
councillor
villa
real
oversees,
the
community
development
commission,
which
is
the
community
board
which
oversees
the
operation
of
this
it's
some
of
the
most
transparent
well-leveraged
funding
in
city
government
bottom
line,
just
quick
examples
of
the
trust
fund
and
what
it's
done
this
year.
Just
this
past
year,
it
funded
two
affordable
rental
projects,
seiler
yard,
which
I'm
working
on
the
civic
housing
authority.
K
It
funded
street
outreach
for
homeless
women,
it
funded
sober
living
for
people's
substance
abuse
problems
and
it
funded
an
innovative
rental
assistance
program
that
was
really
on
the
front
line
of
making
sure
that
folks
impacted
by
the
pandemic
state
in
their
housing.
So
I
just
want
to
say
that,
like
this
isn't
something
we're
creating
from
scratch.
This
is
a
great
infrastructure
that
we're
talking
about
adding
more
resource
resources
to
and
really
expanding
the
impact.
K
So,
let's
dive
into
the
presentation
so
really
the
way
we
framed
this
report
was
the
idea
was
we're,
not
elected
leaders
and
we're
not
the
ones
who
are
in
charge
of
the
community
process
that
make
value
decisions
about
how
you
make
investments
in
housing.
What
our
job
is
is
to
outline
what
we
think
the
best
practices
around
funding.
K
This
trust
fund
are
and
what
the
range
of
options
you
have
as
elected
leaders
to
choose
from
to
fund
this
trust
fund,
and
that's
how
we
frame
this
report
and
because
of
that,
I
think
this
section
of
the
report.
The
principles
of
funding
are
really
the
most
important
thing
right:
the
the
idea
that
we
want
to
hit
at
least
three
million
dollars
a
year
in
predictable
allocation.
K
We're
at
the
second
time
in
a
decade
where
the
time
that
we
need
resources,
the
most
the
city's
in
the
biggest
financial
crunch
and
we've
got
to
figure
out
how
to
insulate
against
that
right,
but
also
that
we
want
to
think
about
these
investments
in
a
strategic
framework
and
that
we
need
to
not
just
put
more
money
out
there.
But
we
need
to
create
goals
for
what
we
want
this
money
to
do.
So
you,
as
elected
leaders,
can
make
better
decisions
about
programs,
policies
and
investments.
K
So
we
know
what
we're
trying
to
create,
what
we're
trying
to
impact
and
so
tying
that
to
goals
and
then,
to
the
best
extent
possible,
creating
a
nexus
first
right,
creating
revenue
sources
from
the
things
that
cause
our
affordability
problems
and,
if
that's
not
possible,
then
the
most
equitable
funding
mechanisms
possible
right.
So
that
they're,
the
cost
of
these
solutions
is
born
as
equitably
as
possible.
K
So
we
broke
down
these
potential
funding
sources,
and
these
are
just
examples
of
some
of
the
ones,
and
this
is
the
sort
of
short-term
triage
suggestions
and
they
really
range
from
things
like
setting
aside
a
portion
of
gross
receipts
tax.
I
think
you
know
a
counselor
introduced
an
idea
around
setting
aside
gross
receipts
tax
from
short-term
rentals.
That
would
be
an
example
of
sort
of
a
nexus
solution:
short-term
rentals
impact,
housing,
affordability
and
the
availability
of
long-term
rentals
for
santa
fe,
and
so
there's
a
nexus
there
between
cause
and
effect.
K
But
again
you
know,
and
then
the
other
side
of
the
spectrum
is
something
like
a
property
tax
mill
levy
or
a
bond.
That's
based
on
property
taxes
that
is
equitable,
it's
paid
by
everyone
incrementally,
and
so
those
are
just
a
couple
examples
of
sort
of
how
short-term
sources
work
and
the
idea
that
there's
also
things
like
capital
improvement
program,
funds
right.
K
We
use
cip
money
mostly
to
fix
public
infrastructure,
but
we
could
even
set
aside
a
piece
of
that
to
fund
affordable
housing,
cyler
yard's
a
great
example
right,
like
we
got
public
infrastructure
money
from
the
utility
department
that
money
made
our
project
possible,
which
means
we're
gonna,
pay,
1.02
million
dollars
in
gross
receipts
tax
to
to
local
governments
right
and
so,
like
the
thing,
that's
different
about
reallocating
money
for
affordable
housing
is
it
has
all
these
other
financial
impacts
that
really
structurally
change
sort
of
the
problems
that
you
face
as
elected
leaders
around?
K
How
do
we
fund
this
or
how
do
we
fund
that
with
ever
shrinking
resources?
Well,
we
need
to
retain
workers.
We
need
to
stop
spending
money
on
on
down
the
road
interventions
and
make
sure
people
have
the
most
basic
housing,
and
at
the
end
of
this
we
can
handle
questions
on
any
of
these
specific
solutions,
but
I'm
going
to
just
kind
of
move
through
these
really
quickly,
because
again,
the
principles
are
what
I
think
are
important.
K
The
specific
examples
are,
you
know,
just
more
things
for
you
to
dig
in
longer
term
as
the
process
of
decision
making
and
community
input
happen,
and
it's.
J
Important
to
note
that
there
are
some
current
discussions,
as
as
the
committee
knows
that
are
happening
around
some
of
these
items
that
we
have
listed
in
the
short
term,
so
yeah.
I
think
it's
worth
noting
for
everyone.
K
So,
as
we
mentioned,
the
range
of
potential
funding
sources
are
broken
down
into
three
different
levels
and
those
are
sort
of
short-term
triage
things
that
could
happen
right
now
as
a
basis
of
counsel,
action
or
reallocation
of
existing
resources,
and
we
also
had
midterm
and
long
term
solutions.
K
Midterm
looks
at
if
you
go
back
to
midterm
real
quick
just
so
I
can
we
motored
so
midterm
solutions
just
take
a
little
bit
more
time,
they're
a
little
more
complex.
They
maybe
are
a
two-step
process.
Right
where,
like
a
general
obligation,
bond
right,
the
city
would
need
to
put
that
onto
a
ballot
and
then
voters
would
have
to
approve
that
referendum.
K
So
it's
a
two-step
process
and
it's
contingent
things
like
a
real
estate
transfer
tax
that
we
attempted
in
2009
but
was
defeated
or
a
new
tax
on
short-term
rentals
right.
We
could.
We
could
levy
new
taxes
in
certain
situations,
but
a
lot
of
these
are
emerging
areas
of
policy,
so
they're
a
little
more
complicated
and
that's
why
we
put
them
in
the
midterm
solutions
and
then
the
last
section
are
long-term
solutions,
and
these
are
really
speculative
or
require
changes
in
state
law.
K
You
know
one
of
the
big
ones-
and
this
is
actually
theoretically
in
the
omnibus
tax
legislation
for
this
year
at
the
state
which
we're
really
excited
about
is
the
idea
of
removing
the
three
percent
per
year
cap
on
property,
tax
appreciation
for
short-term
rentals
and
second
homes.
This
is
a
really
no-brainer
policy.
We
created
this
law
in
the
90s
to
protect
long-term
homeowners
from
being
displaced
because
of
rising
property
taxes.
It
was
really
driven
by
santa
fe,
seeing
the
especially
on
the
east
side
legacy
homeowner
families,
multi-generational
families
being
displaced
well.
K
What
we
inadvertently
have
done
has
been
to
subsidize
the
property
taxes
of
of
people
who
deeply
disrupt
our
housing,
real
estate
economics,
and
so
the
idea
that
we
could
remove
this
cap
on
second
homes
and
on
short-term
rentals
could
possibly
bring
in
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
a
year
in
additional
tax
revenue.
The
county
has
already
said
that
they
are
going
to
set
aside
this
money
for
their
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
K
If
this
tax
change
happens
and
we'd
love
to
see
several
similar
policies
at
the
city
level
to
just
earmark
this
not
yet
realized
funding,
and
I
realize
the
city
gets
a
small
portion
of
property
tax
funds.
But
given
the
scale
of
this
funding,
this
will
be
not
insignificant
and
I
would
love
to
see
proactive
work
if
even
just
a
resolution
for
the
city
to
say.
If
we
get
this
extra
money,
we're
going
to
set
it
aside
for
housing
because
it
it's
just
such
a
no-brainer.
B
Sorry
about
that,
your
microphone
is
acting
up.
F
I'll
come
back,
maybe
there
there.
You
are
hey,
you're,
back,
okay,
sorry
to
interrupt.
I
just
had
a
quick
question
on
that
point.
If
you
could
go
back
to
the
other
side
on
the
three
percent
cap,
and
so
it
says
the
enactment
would
have
to
change
at
the
state
which
we
know-
and
there
was
language
in
your
report
that
said,
removing
or
raising
the
cap
for
second
homes
appears
to
be
within
the
power
of
the
city.
F
It's
on
page,
I
I
was
just
trying
to
figure
what
that
meant:
unpaid
14
of
the
report.
F
K
J
So
which
so
I
mean
I'm
sure
it's
in
there,
but,
oh
yes,
okay!
So
we're
moving
it's
on.
F
Page
14.,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
was
like
really
really
we
can't,
but
maybe
that's
inaccurate.
It's
not
matching
what
you're
saying
here,
but
I
am
interested
in
learning
more
about
what,
if
you
could
send
us
a
county
resolution
that
makes
a
statement
that
whatever
is
decided
for
that
three
percent
property
tax
tax,
which
is
what
it
was
as
a
fix,
whatever
that
how
that
influences
and
supports
any
future
revenues
that
we
could
support
for,
affordable
housing,
okay,.
B
So
if
I
can,
let
me
just
translate
your
your.
Your
microphone
acted
up
again.
Sorry
counselor,
so
counselor
via
real,
was
asking
for
the
county's
language
around
allocating
the
income
that
would
come
from
removing
the
three
percent
cap
and
just
having
that
to
take
a
look
at.
K
K
They've
had
a
lot
of
resources
going
back
to
the
las
campanas
grant
of
affordable
in
lieu
fees
to
the
county,
and
so
they're,
actually
creating
a
structure
for
this
they're
they're,
going
to
set
aside
their
short-term
rental
grt
for
affordable
housing
and
they're,
also
planning
on
issuing
a
small
bond
for
november,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
think
about
is
if
the
city
wants
to
pursue
a
bond
as
well
just
working
complementary
with
the
county
working
with
the
timing
from
the
advocacy
point
of
view
it
seems
like
it
makes
sense,
because
you
know
we'll
will
be
working
to
support
that
bond
campaign
regardless
so
doing
too
makes
sense.
K
The
other
thing
that's
really
interesting,
I
think
is
hopeful-
is
like
increased
collaboration
with
the
county.
The
county
has
said
that
they
will
change
a
long-standing
policy
that
they
don't
spend
affordable
housing
funds
within
city
limits,
which
is
a
big
change,
which
is
great
because
I'm
pretty
sure,
if
I
remember
correctly,
I
vote
for
a
county
commissioner
every
time
a
resident
of
santa
fe
county.
K
So
those
are
our
good
changes
that
I
think
are
happening,
but
increase
coordination
around
this
stuff
and
especially
if
a
bond's
going
to
be
pursued,
which
I
think
is
good
a
modest
small
bond-
might
be.
You
know
one
of
the
really
good
solutions
here
again
to
point
out,
like
we
all
have
personal
ideas
about
what
the
best
solutions
are
here.
K
The
coalition
itself
didn't
endorse
any
of
these
ideas
because
it
seemed
like
something
that
would
just
create
a
lot
of
complexity
and
potential
infighting,
and
we
really
want
to
just
support
the
idea
that,
like
you
know
a
few
just
picking
a
few
of
these
sources
and
really
pushing
it
as
a
package
makes
a
lot
of
sense
right,
like
let's
just
agree
on
the
amount
and
figure
it
out
and
then
also
so
you
as
elected
leaders,
can
get
the
credit.
K
For
you
know
what
sometimes
are
incremental
wins
so,
but
you
know,
I
think
you
know
this
statement
at
the
end
really
captures
a
lot
of.
What
we
want
to
get
across
is
that
we
need
to
get
to
solutions
that
are
at
the
scale
of
our
problem.
The
reality
we
face
is
that
the
federal
government
does
not
treat
housing
as
a
right.
It
only
provides
about
a
fifth
of
the
resources.
K
We
need
to
help
the
the
about
20
of
the
national
population
that
needs
housing
assistance
because
they
can't
afford
even
the
most
basic
market
rate
housing
and
it's
up
to
us,
as
states
and
local
governments,
to
figure
out
how
to
fill
this
gap.
It
is
worth
filling
it.
It
really
in
the
end,
has
such
a
positive
impact
across
the
the
range
going
back
to
sciler
yard
right.
K
The
city
donated
a
piece
of
land,
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
that
project.
It
has
leveraged
an
18
million
dollar
project,
dozens
of
jobs,
a
thou,
a
million
over
a
million
dollars
in
gross
receipts
tax
revenue.
The
quick
math
is
that
the
average
household
living
in
that
project
will
save
3
500
a
year.
In
housing
costs
that's
nine
over
nine
million
dollars
in
disposable
income
over
the
life
of
the
project,
so
like
these,
these
are
like
the
rising
tides,
lift
all
ships
investments.
This
is
like
no
other
type
of
decision.
K
You,
as
elected
leaders,
make
in
terms
of
investing
local
funds.
We
get
so
much
more
out
of
this.
We
save
so
much
money
down
the
road
and
we
prioritize
the
thing
which
I
think
we
need
to
use
as
a
guiding
principle.
I
think
you
know
tomas
said
it
really
well.
Housing
is
health
care.
When
I
think
about
what
I
want
my
local
government
to
be
concerned
with
in
a
pandemic,
there's
few
things
that
rise
above
housing
and
ultimately
anyone
who
is
from
santa
fe.
K
Anyone
who
works
in
santa
fe
should
be
able
to
live
in
santa
fe
right
and
that's
that's
the
guiding
principle
here.
It's
that
simple,
and
this
is
the
work
we're
going
to
need
to
do
to
do
that.
So
with
that,
unless
michael
has
anything
else,
I'm
going
to
just
put
it
out
to
questions
yeah,
we'd
love
to
just
entertain.
You.
B
Dan,
if
whoever's
got
control
of
the
screen,
if
you
could
just
stop
sharing,
that
makes
it
easier.
If
we
can
all,
I
can
see
everyone.
Thank
you
and
we
do
have
some
questions
from
counselors
and
again
I'm
just
going
to
go
down
the
list
here.
Councilor,
garcia.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
so
much,
mr
warwice
and
and
mr
bodio
for
the
presentation.
I
really
appreciate
it.
One
thing
that
always
comes
to
mind
when
we're
talking
about
the
trust
fund
is,
you
know,
show
me
where
you
spend
your
money
and
I'll
show
you
what
you
value,
and
you
will
have
my
commitment.
We
will
fund
as
much
as
we
possibly
can.
D
I
strongly
believe
this
is
an
issue
that
we
need
to
put
every
penny
that
we
can
towards
the
affordable
trust
fund.
As
mr
woodward
mentioned
earlier,
anybody
that
grew
up
here
should
be
able
to
live
here
long
term
and
I've
seen
so
many
friends
and
family
members
not
be
able
to
afford
to
live
in
their
hometown,
which
is
heartbreaking
and
that's
a
cycle.
We
need
to
break
and
not
a
cycle.
We
need
a
break
in
20
years.
It's
a
cycle.
We
need
a
break
now.
D
D
This
is
a
an
issue
that
I
believe
every
counselor
believes
is
critical
to
our
city
and
I
think
every
councilor
wants
to
figure
out
how
we
can
put
as
much
resources
behind
this
bond
as
possible
and
because
of
the
open
meetings
act
it.
It
forces
us
to
work
in
silos,
and
this
is
an
issue
that
we
need
to
work
together,
not
in
a
group
of
two
counselors,
not
a
group
of
three
counselors.
D
This
is
a
group
where
all
nine
of
us
need
to
get
our
heads
together
and
figure
out
how
we're
gonna
put
three
million
dollars
behind
this
fund.
We
can
do
this,
I
mean,
as
as
we
debated,
the
the
the
gross
receipts
tax
that
councilor
v
hill
copler
proposed
back
in
december.
I
mean
that
was
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
we
were
figuring
out.
Where
is
that
going
to
come
from?
D
D
So
with
that,
I
you
have
my
commitment,
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
get
as
close
to
three
million
dollars
as
possible,
and
I
would
like
to
encourage
all
governing
body
members
to
work
together
on
this.
We,
this
is,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
not
a
silo
issue.
This
is
not
a
political
issue
in
regards
to
earning
political
points.
D
This
is
human
lives.
We're
dealing
with.
We
need
to
work
together
on
this.
We
all
need
to
come
together,
figure
it
out
and
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
figure,
put
long-term,
sustainable
resources
towards
this
and
whether
that's
carving
out
money
long-term
in
our
budget
through
proper
ordinances
resolutions,
whatever
it
may
be.
This
is
what
we
need
to
do,
and
I,
I
guess
that's
something
like
I
said:
that's
why
we
need
to
have
a
special
meeting
with
all
of
our
counselors.
D
I
guess
question
for
mr
body
on
mr,
given
that
the
challenges
we're
seeing
are
mainly
addressing
pre-covet
and
you
know
tomas
mr
rivera
mentioned
it
earlier
with
the
zoom
boom
and
we
don't
know
how
we're
going
to
the
impact
is
going
to
be
long
term
on
the
city
of
santa
fe.
I
know
we're
seeing
the
immediate
impacts
of
folks
relocating
to
santa
fe
due
to
the
opportunity
of
being
able
to
work
remotely
and
wanting
to
live
in.
D
J
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question
and
I
know
daniel's
got
something
to
say
I.
I
would
say
that
that's
that's
certainly
baseline
right.
We
in
order,
I
I
feel
like
in
order
to
really
fully
leverage
the
flexibility
and
power
of
the
affordable
housing.
Trust
fund
we'd
really
like
to
see
a
much
more
substantial
investment
in
something
as
important
as
this.
K
K
We
might
think
about
something
bigger
than
that,
especially
thinking
about
the
types
of
funding
sources
that
can
fund
immediate
rental
assistance,
keeping
landlords
caught
up.
I
mean
the
thing
we
don't
talk
about.
A
lot
is
the
cascade
right:
when
people
don't
pay
rent
landlords,
don't
pay
mortgages
mortgages,
don't
pay
servicers,
don't
pay
investors
there's
like
an
economic
contagion
that
happens
there,
that
is
scary
at
a
macroeconomic
level.
K
I
just
also
want
to
point
out
that
the
way
the
trust
fund
works
is
that
a
lot
of
the
funds
do
get
recycled
over
time
and
that
you
know
there
may
come
a
point
where
we
have
enough
vested
resources
in
the
trust
fund
that
you
know
sources
could
drop
during
an
economic
downturn,
but
we
have
enough
recycling
sources,
you
know
so
you
know
front
loading,
makes
sense,
and
then
it
can
taper
right.
That's
another
way
to
think
about
this,
that
we
put
in
more
money
at
first
and
then
less
and
less
over
time.
K
As
we
build
up
a
bigger
portfolio
of
resources,
right
like
right
now,
the
trust
fund
is
exclusively
funded
with
fees
in
lieu
and
recycled
funding
from
previous,
affordable
housing
investments
and
certain
types
of
investments,
don't
recycle,
like
rental
rental
assistance
payments,
we
don't
demand
that
back
down
payment
assistance.
When
we
help
someone
buy
a
house
when
they
sell
that
down
the
road
they
pay
back,
we
could
do
foreclosure
assistance
programs
that
work
like
that
right
where
we
say
we'll
pay
your
back
mortgage,
we'll
put
a
second
mortgage
on
there
and
down
the
road.
K
When
you
sell
your
house,
you
can
pay
that
back
into
the
trust
fund
and
that'll
go
to
help
some
other
family
and
if
by
like,
if
nothing
works,
and
you
end
up
foreclosing
that
lean
position
actually
gives
the
city
the
chance
to
acquire
that
house
out
of
foreclosure.
K
So,
there's
like
a
lot
of
innovative
tools
that
we
could
do
the
other
thing
I
just
say,
along
with
this,
is
we
just
want
to
be
acknowledge
staff
capacity
in
all
this
right
that,
like
you
know,
we,
the
housing
department,
is
managing
so
much
right
now
and
that
if
we
give
them
more
resources,
we
also
have
to
think
about.
You
know,
as
you
guys
go
into
the
budgeting
process.
K
Thinking
about
the
staffing
and
capacity
there
to
let
them
do
the
work
they
need
to
do
to
do
proactive
planning
goal
setting
manage
this
this
these
funds
effectively-
and
one
of
my
hopes
is
that
you
know
the
thing
that
we
didn't
touch
on
about.
The
trust
fund.
That
I
think
is
really
important
is
that
it
meets
the
needs
of
all
people
living
in
our
community.
K
It
has
higher
income
levels,
it
can
serve
people
regardless
of
immigration
status,
unlike
federal
funds
and
as
we've
seen
with
some
of
the
challenges
with
our
federal
funds
reporting
requirements,
our
local
funds
are
much
less
burdened
and
the
idea
of
having
enough
funding
in
the
trust
funds
means
that
we
could
put
our
federal
funds
into
one
or
two
or
three
projects
and
make
that
part
a
lot
easier
on
the
city,
the
chance
of
funds
being
recaptured
a
lot
smaller.
K
So
there's
just
so
many
benefits
to
this,
but
you
know
to
go
back
to
the
core
question
you
have
to
us.
Three
million
is
definitely
the
baseline.
It
would
be
roughly
doubling
the
amount
of
housing
affordable,
housing
stuff
that
we
do
currently,
whether
it's
services,
building
housing
and-
and
that's
this
minimum
scale
that
we
think
we
need
to
to
like
keep
our
foothold,
the
the
impact
of
the
pandemic.
The
relocations
here
you
know,
and-
and
the
thing
to
think
about-
is
that
we
need
to
do
more
than
just
this
right.
There's
regulatory
changes.
K
We
got
to
make
sure
that
there's
enough
housing
for
everyone
that
will
that
lives
in
santa
fe.
That
wants
to
live
in
santa
fe,
there's
no
way
to
keep
people
from
moving.
Here
I
try
and
remind
myself
that
it's
a
reaffirmation
of
what
a
lovely
place
we
live
in,
but
at
the
same
time,
if
we
don't
build
enough
new
housing
to
absorb
those
people,
they're
coming
for
our
apartments,
they're
coming
for
our
houses
and
they're
gonna
price
us
out,
especially
with
people,
so
many
families
facing
wage
loss.
K
It's
it's
just
you
take
the
cash
out
when
you
do
whether
you're
an
owner
or
renter.
So
I
think
we
should
think
of
it
as
a
minimum,
but
also
remember
that
this
isn't
a
forever
thing
that
if
we
can
get,
you
know
really
10
15
years
of
inconsistent
investment
should
give
us
a
vested
fund
that
is
sustainable,
whether
the
city's
having
a
good
year
a
bad
year,
and
it
shouldn't
need
to
be
fed
forever
right.
D
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
So
much.
I
really
appreciate
that,
because
that
was
my
kind
of
gut
feeling
was
that
it
was
the
baseline
and
we
do
need
to
look
at
how
we
can
put
any
number
of
resources
we
can
behind
it
and
shooting
with
the
goal
of
3
million,
but
that's
not
the
ceiling
we
if
we
hit
that
mark,
we
can
continue
to
continue
to
go.
You
know,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
this
is
a
challenge
we
need
to
address
now.
D
I
don't
want
to
leave
my
kids
generation
dealing
with
this
or
their
kids
generally.
I
think
this
is
something
we
need
to
address
now.
It's
it's
kind
of
been
pushed
off
time
and
time
again,
and
I
think
this
is
no
better
time
than
now
to
fully
address
it.
We've
got
it,
they
say,
as
they
say,
when
the
tough
gets
going,
the
going
gets
tough.
D
We
we're
going
to
get
going
on
this
and
that's
I
just
encourage
all
counselors
and
all
governing
body
members,
let's
let's
meet
together
as
a
team
figure
this
out
as
a
team
and
we'll
come
through
as
a
team
on
this
with
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
mr
body
and
mr
wurwith.
I
really
appreciate
all
the
time
and
effort
that
you
put
behind
this.
D
I
I
know,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
an
issue
that
is
very
near
and
dear
to
all
of
the
governing
body
members
and
and
that's
why
I
I
strongly
believe
that
we're
we're
going
to
put
some
resources
behind
this
and
I'm
I'm
going
to
be
fighting
for
the
three
million
dollars,
if
at
all
possible.
B
Thank
you,
counselor
councilwoman,
vrel,
your
hand
is
also
up.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
how's,
my
voice,
better.
Okay,
let's
hope
that
it
that
it
stays
that
way,
because
I
have
a
few
questions
and
I
wholeheartedly
agree
with
my
compa
counselor
garcia.
I
think,
what's
hard
in
certain
instances
when,
with
trying
to
figure
out
legislation
and
prioritizing,
is
everybody
is
working
in
different
silos?
F
Some
not
be
just
for
the
sheer
fact
of
how
it's
structured
and
also
you
know
some
people
like
to
work
independently,
but
I
think
there's
ways
to
do
this
and
I
really
appreciate
how
you
outlined
the
different
options
and
ways
of
priorities
of
prioritizing
it,
and
I
I
just
had
a
few
questions
about
some
of
the
things
just
like
where
you
were
going
with
that,
and
I
wanted
to
start
with
the
property
tax
mill
levy
and
how
that's
always
a
source
of
contention.
F
F
How
do
you
think,
because,
ultimately,
we're
trying
to
support
low-income,
fixed
households
right?
So
how
does
that?
How
does
this
support
lower,
fixed
income,
households
who
say
have
like
a
legacy
home,
that's
been
in
the
family
for
a
long
time.
It's
an
expensive
part
of
town.
They
are
barely
able
to
pay
the
property
tax
as
it
is
so
when
you
increase
it,
which
is
a
value
of
the
home,
and
this
value
of
the
home
may
be
actually
very
expensive.
K
Madam
chair
counselor
via
real,
I
think,
that's
a
great
question
and
one
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time.
Thinking
about
first
is
the
mechanics
of
how
this
works
is
that
we
actually
get
a
lot
of
money
for
a
really
incremental
increase
in
taxes.
Right
like
something
like
you
know,
three
million
dollars
a
year
in
property
tax
could
be
something
as
small
as
maybe
ten
dollars
a
month
per
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
value
for
for
a
homeowner
right.
K
So
it's
relatively
small
because
it's
spread
a
lot
and
there's
a
lot
of
very
valuable
real
estate
in
santa
fe,
which
typically
isn't
what
lower
income
homeowners
have.
You
know
there
are
not
a
lot
of
legacy.
Homeowners
left
on
the
east
side.
Sadly
it's
just.
It
was
very
true
in
the
90s.
It
was
less
true
in
the
2000s
and
it's
very
rare
now
right,
but
one
of
the
ways
that
we
think
about
those
like
how
do
we
fix
that
proactively?
K
If,
if
we
were
to
pursue
as
a
community,
something
like
a
increase
in
property
taxes
to
support
affordable
housing,
which
is
very
equitable
because
it
spread
evenly
across
the
community?
I
would
look
at
earmarking
a
set
chunk
of
that
money
for
assistance
for
lower
income
households
to
help
with
their
taxes,
tax,
abatements,
tax
assistance
programs
right
so
just
help
them
proactively.
K
K
We
should
be
just
doing
this
anyway,
but
one
of
the
problems
is:
we
have
a
ton
of
needs
and
not
enough
resources.
You
know
things
like
funding.
K
The
trust
fund
could
create
programs
like
this
right,
so
I
think
that's
the
the
quick
answer
is
that
the
increase
is
incremental
for
everyone
and
those
multi-million
dollar
mansions
on
the
top
of
the
hill,
really
create
a
lot
of
value
in
that
mechanism
and
the
everyday
people
are
impacted,
a
lot
less
and
it's
proportional,
but
at
the
same
time,
we'd
still
want
to
create
proactive
programs
to
piggyback
on
any
sort
of
tax
increase
that
protect
legacy.
Homeowner
families
that
protect
folks
who
are
at
risk
of
displacement
from
from
property
tax
arrears.
F
Thank
you
for
that
explanation
and
it
would
be
good
to
actually
see
a
number
of
how
many
legacy
home
owners
there
are.
You
say
it
decreases
and
I
believe
you
I'm
just
curious
like
what
the
number
is
and
how
we
could
actually
get
that
data
so
maybe
offline.
We
could
talk
about
that.
K
Yeah
I'd
be
happy
to
look
at
that
there's
some
great
data
going
on
with
the
more
academic
explorations
of
gentrification
that
create
models
for
assessing
gentrification
risk
in
neighborhoods,
based
on
the
length
of
ownership
and
that's
in
the
publicly
available
property
tax
data.
So
yes,
we
we
could
absolutely
find
that
data.
K
F
Just
a
another
question,
as
I
go
through
that
these
various
potentials,
the
utility
funds
option-
and
you
had
talked
about
increasing
our
utility
fees,
and
so
that's
another
one.
That's
somewhat
contentious
too,
because
our
water
rates
are
so
high
right
now
I
don't
foresee
us
wanting
to
try
to
keep
increasing
the
rates,
but
I
think
what
you're
talking
about
is
portioning
off
part
of
that
revenue
that
comes
from
water
rates
that
would
actually
be
utilized
for
public
water
infrastructure
needs
for
affordable
housing.
Is
that
correct.
K
Yeah,
madam
chair
council,
correct
so
review.
Really
this
could
would
be
easily
possible
as
a
real
allocation,
not
a
increase
in
those
fees,
because
I
can
say,
as
an
affordable
housing
property
owner
that
those
fees
are
challenging
for
us
when
competing
statewide,
because
our
costs
are
so
much
higher
than
other
cities.
Those
translate
to
how
much
money
we
can
borrow
right
because
it
gobbles
up
our
our
operating
revenue.
So
you
know
that
was
one
of
the
ways
we
used
to
fund
seiler
yard
right.
K
K
We
could
earmark
a
portion
of
the
public
water
infrastructure
funding,
pool
to
be
allocated
through
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
process,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that,
like
in
many
cases
we're
not
talking
about
physically
going
over
the
water
department
and
getting
like
a
safety
deposit
box
full
of
money
and
bringing
it
housing
department,
it's
really
about
the
allocation
methodology
and
setting
aside
pools
of
funding
to
be
allocated
through
that
trust
fund
process,
because
it's
transparent,
it's
rfp
based
right
every
year.
The
city
says
these
are
these:
are
our
problems?
K
How
do
our
partners
in
the
community
propose
to
solve
them
right?
And
so,
if
we
put
those
resources
out,
there
you're
going
to
see
innovative
responses
and
that's
why
we
like
the
process.
So
a
lot
of
what
we
talk
about
in
funding.
The
trust
fund
is
not
literally
putting
money
in
a
specific
bank
account
it's
reallocating
things.
We
already
have
into
this
process
that
has
really
good
outcomes
and
really
good
transparency
and
really
good
community
oversight.
J
Did
you
have
something
to
share
about
madame
yes,
madam
chair
and
counselor
villarreal,
I
think
it's
also
important
to
note
that
it
you
know
for
these
kinds
of
issues.
J
A
lot
of
the
times
I
feel
like,
what's
really
important,
is
how
these
kinds
of
issues
are
framed
right
and
how
they're
talked
about
and,
like
daniel
said,
I
think
it's
really
mostly
about
reallocation
and
how
that
process
kind
of
works,
and
I
feel
like,
if
we're
able
to
clarify
that
that
makes
those
kinds
of
issues
a
lot
less
contentious,
and
I
will
add
that
I'm
I'm
pretty
resistant
to
backing
away
from
contentious
issues.
J
You
know
I
I
I
just
just
because
they're
contentious,
I
feel,
like
you
know
we
all
have
to.
We
have
to
start
somewhere
and
we
have
to
figure
out
where
at
what
point,
we
need
to
begin
and
kind
of
realize
that
there
there
are
going
to
be
some
contentious
pieces,
just
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we're
talking
about.
I
think
it's
inescapable
when
we're
talking
about
policy
making,
but
again,
I'm
I'm
pretty
resistant
to
backing
down
when
things
get
contentious.
F
Yeah
and
I
think
the
greater
good
is
really
the
goal.
We
had
contentious
issues
with
the
short-term
rental
ordinance
changes,
and
you
know,
I
think,
we're
in
a
good
place
and
if
there's
something
we
need
to
change
later,
we
can.
The
other
question
I
had
was
about
the
general
obligation
workforce
housing
bond
right.
I
I've
been
curious
how
the
city
of
albuquerque
made
this
work.
F
J
Well
so
just
answered
one
of
the
first
questions,
so
the
report
showed
that
there
was
the
31.4
million
in
commitments
has
leveraged
over
200
million
and
economic
activity
generated,
at
least
over
6
million
in
grt,
38
million
in
indirect
spending
and
nearly
1200
jobs
and
albuquerque
is
typically
size.
This
bond
at
five
million
dollars
a
year.
K
And
it's
and
it's
been
variable
over
time
right,
so
the
after
the
economic
downturn,
they
shrunk
it
you
know.
So
again,
you
know
it's
one
of
those
ones
where
they
have
teed
up
pretty
consistently
a
bond
every
two
years
in
sort
of
tight
economic
times.
They
shrunk
the
size
of
it,
but
the,
I
think,
a
really
great
roadmap
for
especially
elected
leaders
contemplating
something
like
this.
K
The
2015
report
from
the
city
of
albuquerque
on
their
workforce,
housing
trust
fund,
is
the
one
that
has
the
most
detailed
economic
analysis
of
impacts
and,
I
think
sizing
wise.
You
know
they.
K
Theirs
is
on
a
smaller
side
for
the
size
of
their
community,
but
their
affordability
issues
aren't
quite
at
the
scale
that
santa
fes
are.
If
that
makes
sense,
we
just
have
such
a
gap
that
we're
dealing
with.
Now
I
mean
the
median
home
price
over
half
a
million
dollars
right,
like
the
amount
of
gaps
that
we're
trying
to
create
just
the
fact
that,
like
building
a
new,
a
basic
new
home
costs
about
300
000,
that
puts
it
out
of
reach
of
you
know
over
half
our
population.
K
The
county's
recent
report
on
this
said
65
of
santa
fans
couldn't
move
back
to
santa
fe
today.
If
they
moved
away
right,
like
that
sort
of
reality
means
that
we
need
a
little
bit
more
scale
wise.
It's
not
a
one-to-one
on
population,
it's
more
about
the
scale
of
the
problem
you're
dealing
with,
but
they've
sized
it
at
that.
It's
been
variable
anywhere
from
like
two
and
a
half
to
five
million
a
year.
K
It
shrunk,
I
think,
to
a
million
a
year
during
the
height
of
the
09
downturn,
but
I
would
encourage
everyone
to
look
at
that
report.
I
think
it's
really
instructive
in
terms
of
like
how
bonding
can
leverage
a
lot
of
really
positive
outcomes-
and
I
actually
think
those
numbers
in
that
report
are
pretty
conservative.
Given
the
potential
for
leverage.
F
That's
helpful
and
I
think
what
what
I
struggle
with
is
the
functioning
of
it.
The
way
it's
administered
sure
you
can
create
a
bond,
but
you
actually
need
an
entity
and
in
albuquerque's
case
they
have
a
full
department.
That's
that's
designated
to
facilitate
the
fund,
the
funding
that
comes
from
that
bond.
So
we
need
to
think
about
that.
It's
not
like
you
just
put
it
out
there
and
be
like
all
right.
We'll
have
alexandra
ladd
run
every
single
thing
that
comes
through
that
revenue
source
and
that's
unrealistic.
F
So
we
have
to
think
about
the
infrastructure
of
our
staff
and
if
a
department
needs
to
a
whole
new,
another
department
needs
to
actually
facilitate
that.
So
I
guess
that's
something
that
I
keep
thinking
about.
That
albuquerque
actually
has
really
well
structured.
K
And
madam
chair
councillor
via
real,
I
just
add
that
we
have
used
bond
funds
multiple
times
in
the
past.
In
the
wake
of
the
2009
financial
crisis,
we
did
use
bond
funds
for
affordable
housing
in
two
separate
instances.
So
it's
something
we've
done
before:
it's
not
a
huge
infrastructure.
If
you
would
like
to
invite
me
back
to
a
future
meeting,
I
could
give
you
a
whole
presentation
on
why.
K
F
I
hear
you
and
of
course,
because
we
love
our
prime
gov
that
times
out
when
we
want
to
get
to
certain
pages
after
a
certain
time.
I
had
other
questions,
but
I
can't
find
them.
I
think
when
I
was
thinking
about
I'll
get
to
it.
Maybe
if
I
I'll
let
my
colleagues
ask
questions,
but
I
was
thinking
about
what
we
need
right
now
and
some
of
the
suggestions
you
have
about
supporting
the
staff.
That's
currently
that
we
currently
have
to
actually
facilitate
our
rfp
process.
Now
it's
it's
challenging
you
all.
F
I
mean
alexandra
and
her
small
team
to
be
able
to
move
forward
with
even
the
cdbg
funding
the
hud
funding
we
get
is
extremely
tenuous.
It's
just
like
the
bureaucratic
reporting
and
hoop
jumping.
We
spend
most
of
our
year
doing
that.
So
I
like
your
idea
about
having
a
second
round
of
rfp
funding.
If
we
had
that
funding
available,
and
we
would
have
to
increase
our
staff
capacity
to
do
that,
because
it's
just
too
much
just
just
the
times
that
we
do
the
for
this
round
of
grant
making
that's
coming
up
is
unbelievable.
F
The
amount
of
time
it
takes
for
our
staff,
so
I'm
just
making
that
point
that
those
go
hand
in
hand.
We
need
to
increase
our
staff
capacity,
increase
staff
numbers
and
so
that
we
are
able
to
actually
administer
these
grants
and
be
able
to
administer
the
funding
if
we
increase
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
funds.
And
then
I
wanted
you
to
maybe
just
elaborate
on
the
affordable
housing
land
donation
program,
just
a
little
bit
about
what
that
means
or
what
that
could
look
like
sure
and.
K
Madam
chair
counselor,
via
real,
so
that's
something
that's
referenced
in
several
places
and
is
one
of
our
policy
goals.
We
sort
of
have
an
ad
hoc
process
of
disposing
of
publicly
owned
land,
but
we
could
leverage
that
differently
again.
My
ultimate
dream
would
be
something
like
a
land
banking
program
that
not
only
disposed
of
land
but
acquired
land
for
affordable
housing
purposes,
something
we
could
do
in
a
situation.
Where
say
we
had
leftover
trust
fund
monies
at
the
end
of
the
year.
We
could
look
at.
K
Maybe
we
spend
this
on
a
piece
of
land
for
future
development
right.
So
again,
that's
sort
of
the
thing
that
would
be
best
contained
in
a
redevelopment
authority
like
an
entity
that
was
quasi-governmental.
But
you
know
I
think
you
know
what
we
would
love
to
see
is.
K
Right
and
the
city
could
change
that
by
just
saying
here's
a
piece
of
land
to
develop
it
on
and
and
that
leverage
is
huge
right
again
million
dollars.
Grt.
K
You
know:
18
million
dollar
development
project,
all
seeded
from
a
few
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
piece
of
land,
but
I
would
just
love
to
see
that
formalized
into
a
process,
one
that
looked
at
where
in
the
city
this
land
was
being
dedicated
for
affordable
housing
and
that
it
was
being
distributed
equitably
throughout
the
city.
K
I
think
we
have
a
huge
problem
with
de
facto
segregation
of
affordable
housing
on
the
south
side,
which
is,
like
a
you
know,
a
byproduct
of
our
inclusionary
zoning,
a
byproduct
of
our
land
use
codes,
which
we
have
to
look
at
critically,
and
so
you
know,
a
land
donation
program
could
look
at
the
strategic
level
and
say:
where
are
we
putting
affordable
housing?
K
How
are
we
making
sure
there's
a
certain
amount
being
created
like
we've
been
treading
water
forever?
If
we
did
200
units
a
year
for
10
years?
That
would
actually
shrink
that
to
next
to
nothing
right
like
we
can
solve
these
problems,
but
we
just
gotta
up
the
scale
a
little
bit
and
so
just
trying
to
reinforce
that
the
specifically
the
funding
isn't
enough.
We
got
to
think
about
goal
setting.
We
got
to
think
about
land
use
reform.
F
I
agree
and-
and
I
I've
said
before,
that
any
city
land
that
we
own,
we
should
prioritize
and
make
that
affordable
housing.
No
matter
what-
and
I
know
my
colleagues
have
said
that
before
it
just
makes
sense
to
me
and
some
people
say
well,
we
need
both,
they
said.
Well,
then
let
the
private
developers
do
their
thing,
but
we
that
we
control
the
land
that
we
have
we
should
be
able
to.
F
We
should
prioritize
that
those
pieces
of
land,
the
limited
ones
that
we
actually
have,
that
they
should
all
be
geared
towards
affordable
housing
initiatives.
So
that's
just
a
point.
The
one
thing
I
was
wondering
I
think
I
got
all
my
questions
with
your
report.
K
Huge
madam
chair
counselor,
via
real,
that
is
a
great
question.
We
lost
300
units
of
affordable
housing
over
the
last
couple
years
to
expiring
use
restrictions.
K
The
quick
answer
is
it
just
takes
monitoring
and
resources
right,
and
I
worked
on
programs
that
we've
designed
in
other
communities
that
are
designed
to
preserve,
affordable
housing
that
do
things
like
one
track:
expiring
use
restrictions
on
housing.
So
you
know
a
couple
years
in
advance
when
a
a
project's
gonna
go
market
rate,
two
creating
specialized
sort
of
financial
tools
a
lot
of
times.
Non-Profits
have
the
capacity
to
take
over
these
for-profit
or
expiring
use
projects,
but
they
just
don't
have
the
quick
resources.
K
We
could
do
things
like
down
payment
assistance,
programs
for
non-profits
to
acquire
these
properties
or
we
could
match
make
to
get
these
projects
in
rounds
for
rehabilitation
funding.
That's
something
that
the
civic
housing
authority
is
so
good
at
right.
They've
done
that
with
most
of
their
public
housing
inventory.
K
If
we
just
formalize
that
into
a
program
right
where
we're
tracking
expiring
use
restrictions,
doing
the
matchmaking
with
grantees
that
want
to
potentially
take
over
management
and
keep
those
affordable
or
reinvest
in
them
through
tax
credits
like
we,
the
housing
authority's
done,
but
really
it's
just
it's
it's
it's
not
hard.
We
just
need
to
like
get
a
database
together.
We
don't
it's
it's
again
that
issue
of
like
we
have
just
not
quite
enough
capacity
in
our
housing
department
to
lead
this
and
there's
no
one
in
the
private
sector.
K
That
has
the
capacity
to
sort
of
monitor
this.
Unless
it's
you
know,
for-profit
folks,
that
are
looking
to
buy
an
affordable
housing
project
for
cheap,
wait
a
couple
years
and
then
jack
the
rents
up,
but
like
the
the
best
way
to
create
affordable
housing
is
not
to
have
to
create
it.
Right
like
this
should
be
at
the
top
of
our
priority.
We
did
huge
investments
in
rental
housing
in
the
early
2000s,
late,
90s
and
those
are
all
coming
up
in
expiring,
use
it's
15
years,
all
the
new
projects.
K
K
But
there
are
a
lot
of
these
legacy
projects
281
units
in
one
year
we
lost
and
it's
exacerbating
our
affordability
problems
and
so
a
little
bit
of
proactive
work
tracking
and
then
some
unique
financial
tools
to
be
able
to
do
it
exactly
the
type
of
stuff
that
we're
talking
about
an
expanded
trust
fund.
To
do.
K
Generally,
publicly
available-
and
it's
like
a
little
sketchy,
but
if
you
look
up
there's
that
data
is
available
for
tax
credit,
funded,
affordable
housing
projects,
there's
other
types
of
funding
mechanisms
from
the
past
that
may
have
different
affordability
restrictions,
the
bulk
of
our
affordable
rental
housing
is
from
low
income,
housing,
tax
credits,
and
so
there
is
a
list
available
on
that
and
in
other
communities.
What
I've
done
is
we've
taken
that
list
and
then
you
know,
city
staff
went
out
and
shook
down.
K
You
know
each
of
those
properties,
you
know
there's
20
tax
credit
properties
or
so
in
santa
fe
right,
it's
not
a
massive
list
and
you
just
call
them
up
and
find
out
details
find
out
who
a
lot
of
the
the
hardest
part
of
it
is
finding
who
the
owners
are,
because
these
are
tax
credit
funded.
You
know
like
on
siler
yard,
jp
morgan
chase
bought
our
tax
credits,
so
guess
what
they're
the
owner
of
record
right
so,
like
tracking
down
the
parties
that
technically
own
the
housing,
is
the
challenge
that.
K
K
They
need
to
compete
with
the
market
right
and
that
usually
means
like
moving
quicker
or
having
a
good
sized
chunk
of
down
payment,
or
even
thinking
about
how
do
you
hold
that
property
for
a
year
or
two,
while
someone
like
the
housing
authority
goes
out
and
tries
to
get
reinvestment
money
for
it
to
re-up
the
income
restrictions,
do
energy
efficiency
all
that
other
stuff,
so
happy
to
talk
about
that,
any
time
happy
to
come
to
cd
and
talk
about
how
we
could
do
that.
Just
just.
Let
me
know.
F
I
think
we
need
to
put
that
on
our
radar
and
then
the
other
thing
that
I
always
grapple
with
is
just
even
mid
mid-range
apartments
or
multi-family
units
that
are
semi-affordable,
but
the
landlords
or
the
rent.
The
owners
basically
can
increase
rates
at
any
point
and
the
renters
have
no
recourse.
K
I
would
love
to
see
a
statewide
sort
of
rental
cap
like
they
did
in
oregon,
right
that
that
protects
against
shock
increases.
K
I
I'm
I'm
dubious
about
rent
control
at
the
local
level
because
of
the
potential
negative
impacts
and
it
subsidizes
a
bunch
of
people
that
don't
need
subsidy,
but
at
the
state
level
doing
something
like
you
can't
increase
someone's
rents
year
to
year.
More
than
eight
percent,
I
think,
is
what
they
settled
on
in
oregon
and
I'm
just
hearing
all
the
time
every
week
from
people
who
are
having
their
rents,
50
doubled
and
those
same
people
saying
they're
moving
they're
taking
their
business
whatever
they
are.
K
It's
just
like
every
week
right
now
and
we
need
some
guardrails
on
sort
of
runaway
speculation,
and
I
think
that's
like
that.
Statewide
rent
control
they
did
in
oregon
is
a
great
example
of
like
a
policy
that
works
really
well
and
it
keeps
people
from
shock
rent
increases,
but
doesn't
also
hinder
the
development
of
new
housing
and
doesn't
subsidize
rentals
for
people
who
don't
need
it
and.
F
K
The
state
law
precludes
any
sort
of
rent
control
legislation,
so
we
would
need
to
change
that
enabling
legislation
and
replace
it
with
specific
legislation,
but
I
think
you
know,
as
we
see
in
in
oregon,
it
eventually
passed
and
with
you
know,
fairly
broad
support,
because
it
wasn't
so
hyper
restricted.
It
wasn't
trying
to
solve
all
the
problems.
It
was
really
just
trying
to
get
that
thing.
Where,
like
your
lease
renews
and
your
rent,
you
know
increases
50.
F
You
know
that
I
think
that's
important.
I
think
that's
important.
We
need
to
look
at
okay
last
question.
I
just
want
to
know
there
was
no
recognition
or
acknowledgement
in
terms
of
like
keeping
things
affordable
and
in
local
control
and
local
governance
of
the
potential
to
do
a
community
land
trust
model
in
our
city.
K
Sure,
well,
we
have
we.
We
have
a
land
trust
that
was
supported
by
the
city,
the
community
housing
trust
it
built
it
owned,
something
like
100
units
of
land,
trust,
housing,
built,
scattered
site,
land,
trust
on
existing
city
land.
I
think
a
land
trust
is
a
great
idea.
I
don't
think
the
city
should
have
anything
to
do
with
its
creation
or
operation.
I
think
the
funding
of
it
is
something
that
the
trust
fund
could
do.
That
was
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
settled
on
this
as
a
funding
mechanism.
K
Is
that
if
someone
wanted
to
create
a
land
trust
like
that,
I
actually
think
it's
like
one
of
the
big
missing
pieces
is.
We
need
a
land
trust
not
for
new
construction,
affordable
housing,
but
for
existing
homes,
and
you
know
acquire
those
put
the
land
into
trust,
sell
them
as
affordable.
I
actually
think
a
lot
of
legacy
home
ownership
where
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
loss
of
legacy.
Homeownership
is
in
generational
transition.
K
K
I
think
there's
some
models
around
that
and
really
again
you
know
that
could
be
something
that
the
cdc
says
hey.
This
is
a
priority
for
funding
for
the
the
trust
fund
this
coming
year,
we'd
love
to
see
a
preservation,
land
trust
created,
and
we
have
some
funding
for
it.
But,
like
you
know
right
now,
you
know
how
much
funding
is
in
there
there's
just
not
enough
money
to
do
that.
You
know
the
the
acquisition
land
trusts
need
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars.
K
You've
basically
got
to
subsidize
the
value
of
land
on
each
house
you
acquire,
and
so
it's
capital
intensive,
but
I
think
it's
absolutely
something
we
should
do.
I
think
we
also
just
need
to
recognize
that
you
know
they're,
not
a
magic
solution,
they're
just
one
of
many
tools
that
are
important
and
helpful,
and
you
know
the
land
trust
we
have
has
done
a
lot
to
create.
You
know
we
have
a
hundred
units
of
you
know
permanently
affordable
housing.
K
They
also
have
downsides
right,
like
a
lot
of
people,
families
that
I
worked
with
in
the
land
trust
homes
at
the
housing
trust
felt
like
in
the
end
they
had
just
sort
of
paid
rent
because
they
had
such
capped
appreciation
on
their
sales
and
they
had
paid
all
the
property
taxes
and
maintenance
and
upkeep
on
the
house
the
whole
time
they
were
there.
So
these
are
really
complicated
things.
F
It
is
I,
I
just
think
it
warrants
more
conversation
at
another
time
to
weigh
the
options,
because
I
don't
think
people
even
know
that
they're
out
there
they
function
well
in
other
states,
we
have
one
in
albuquerque,
so
just
something
to
flag
that
I
want
my
colleagues
to
also
be
cognizant
of
and
your
wealth
of
information,
daniel
and
michael
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I'll
yield
the
floor.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
daniel.
Thank
you,
michael
for
being
here
tonight.
I
do
want
to
remind
us
that
we
have
two
more
presentations.
Perhaps
we
have
you
know
these
are
really
important
conversations.
We
wanted
to
do
them
all
in
one
night.
Maybe
we
stacked
it
up
a
little
a
little
bit
too
heavy.
But
again
I
I
think
these
are
all
very
important
voices,
counselor
abeyta
and
I
have
made
a
commitment
to
really
deep
dive
into
this.
B
This
issue
of
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
to
use
these
committees
to
bring
forward.
You
know
the
the
people
and
the
ideas
and
begin
the
conversations
in
the
community
and
and
among
ourselves
about
the
solutions
evaluating.
B
You
know
which
paths
might
be
the
right
direction
to
go
in
how
you
know,
starting
to
build
the
support
for
a
particular
path
of
particular
paths.
I'll
emphasize
that
you
know
the
changes
that
we
made
last
year
to
the
fee
in
lieu
of
has
generated
a
little
over
a
million
dollars
for
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
a
little.
B
So
so,
there's
that
I
think
there's
another
proposal
that
the
council
will
be
looking
at
the
pros
and
cons
of
coming
soon
around
the
sale
of
public
city
property
and
and
dedicating
some
of
that
revenue.
So
some
of
these
things
are
a
question
of
timing
and
making
sure
that
we're
you
know
taking
advantage
of
the
timing
that
we
have.
B
Some
of
these
things
are
our
timing
in
when
they
might
be
most
successful
and
what
has
to
be
done
in
order
to
build
support
for
a
particular
item
so-
and
we've
heard
also
tonight
that,
even
if
we
had
the
resources
do
we
have
the
staff
capacity
to
actually
spend
the
money,
and
you
know
if
you're
going
to
be
using
the
resources
to
create
affordable
housing.
Where
are
you
going
to
put
it
that
all
needs
thinking?
B
So
there's
there's
a
there's,
a
lot
of
things
that
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
it
between
the
finance
committee
and
the
in
the
quality
of
life
committee,
and
then
I
think
in
other
forums
with
advocates
and
in
the
community.
More
broadly,
so
these
are
important
conversations
and
and
again
I
am
really
pleased
that
we've
we
started
this
work
and
and
that
we're
starting
to
take
it
really
seriously.
B
So
with
that
I'd,
I'd
like
to
go
to
mike
lofton
and
rob
morlino,
and
they
had
a
white
paper
and
just
getting
to
my
prime
gov
here
that
they
produced,
which
I
think
largely
was
put
into
the
santa
fe
housing
coalition
paper.
But
I
I
wanted
to
invite
their
voices,
their
expertise
to
add
to
this
conversation
tonight
and
then
we
do
have
one
more
presentation
on
and
will
be
largely
focused
on
land.
B
It
did
come
up
earlier
about
land
use,
reform
and
and
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
can
do
at
the
city
to
encourage
more
affordable
housing
through
our
own
land
use
policies.
So
two,
two
more
things
bear
with
me
and
take
it
away,
rob
I
don't.
Are
you
kicking
it
off
here
tonight.
L
I
will
thank
you,
madam
chair
counselors
and
and
friends
and
colleagues
for
having
us.
I
will
do
my
best
to
be
as
brief
as
possible,
knowing
it's
getting
late
and
and
if
you
see
me
pause
it's
because
I'm
I'm
I'm
skipping
something
that's
already
been
covered
by
the
other
presenters
we
at
homewise
are
also
members
of
the
santa
fe
housing
action
coalition.
We
contribute
to
the
white
paper.
L
This
was
kind
of
an
earlier
version
and
and
what
we're
going
to
focus
on
just
in
in
our
piece
here
is
really
drilling
down
to
a
couple
of
really
just
three
solutions
that
the
city
can
act
on
now.
We
think
we've
already
had
some
movement
on
those,
so
thank
you
and
and-
and
I
think
that
gets
to
counselor
garcia's
point
of
putting
heads
together.
I
hope
that
these
three
prescriptions,
you
know,
get
us
closer
there.
I'm
gonna
skip
over
a
bunch.
I
was
gonna.
L
I
was
gonna,
provide
some
context,
but
basically
just
want
to
encourage
everyone
to
go.
Watch
the
last
quality
of
life
committee
meeting,
especially
the
last
half
that
featured
eli,
isaacson,
alexandra,
ladd
and
kira
ochoa.
That's
the
kind
of
the
holy
trinity
of
social
policies
in
the
city
is
the
dream
team.
L
They
did
an
excellent
excellent
job,
and
so
I'm
going
to
skip
over
kind
of
reinforcing
some
points
that
they
did
and
also
thank
you
to
the
other
presenters,
fantastic
presentations
and
everything
so
so
to
I
guess,
where
I
want
to
start
then
is
is
to
kind
of
zoom
in,
and
you
know
something
to
notice
is
that
when
alex
did
present
alexandra
ladd
did
present.
L
Two
weeks
ago,
she
mentioned
that
our
median
income
in
santa
fe
is
around
76
000,
that's
not
enough
to
to
to
stay
below
kind
of
the
the
30
gross
income
level
that
would
have
housing,
affordability
and
in
fact
I
just
saw
a
news
article
today
that
I'll
incorporate
that
our
living
wage
is
set
to
increase
on
march
first
to
12
and
32
cents.
L
That
would
represent
a
gross
income
if
we're
just
kind
of
zooming
down
to
the
ground
level
here
of
51,
000
and
change
for
for
an
entire
household,
because
we're
always
talking
about
millions
of
dollars
in
percentages.
L
That's
that's
an
important
number
to
note
on
on
kind
of
the
ground
level
here,
if,
if
you
assume
that
their
rent
is
two
thousand
dollars
which
is
pretty
low
for
the
market
right
now,
that's
half
their
income
and
it
really
leaves
if
we
can,
if
we
can
make
things
digestible
here,
just
under
500
to
pay
for
everything
else
in
their
lives
right.
So
that's
that's
the
the
kind
of
ground
level
of
the
affordability
problem
we're
having
here,
and
so
our
our
living
wage,
which
was
up
for
debate
came
up.
L
I
think
in
2012
is,
is
was
a
good
policy
progressive
policy
at
the
time,
but
it's
really
kind
of
a
living
somewhere
else
wage.
At
this
point,
even
though
there's
good
faith
put
into
developing
that
and
for
boomerangers
young
people
trying
to
come
back,
it's
just
not
even
viable.
Even
when
I
came
in
here
it
came
to
santa
fe
with
a
coming
out
of
grad
school.
If
I
were
to
come
now,
I
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
live
even
with
an
advanced
degree
in
that
kind
of
experience.
So.
L
I
want
to
get
to
you
know
some
of
the
the
the
the
challenges,
mainly
the
the
challenges
we've
had
with
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund,
is
that
it's
funded
fairly
episodically
and
that
sorry
just
give
me
a
second
find,
my
notes
and
sorry
folks.
L
And
and
that
we
haven't
had
we've
only
provided
with
enough
support
to
fund
a
fraction
of
the
proposals
that
have
come
through
right.
So
it's
it's
kind
of
consistently
underfunded
is
one
of
the
issues
we're
dealing
with
and-
and
I
I
I
just
want
to
reiterate
something
that
alex
lat
again
said
in
her
presentation,
which
that
we
have
to
consider
the
the
leverage
components
here
right.
That's
really
important
in
that
presentation.
She
said
for
every
one
dollar
provided
by
down
payment
assistance.
L
L
L
One
is
our
capital
improvement
project
program,
the
city
issues,
these
bonds,
capital,
cip
bonds
about
every
two
years
of
to
the
amount
of
about
20
million
dollars,
so
that
works
out,
of
course,
to
about
10
million
a
year
to
finance
city-owned
infrastructure
such
as
roads
and
sewer
lines,
public
buildings,
etc,
and
in
the
past,
like
under
under
mayor
cost,
the
city
designated
a
portion
of
these
funds
to
be
deployed
through
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
So
there's
some
precedent
there
for
public
infrastructure
that
benefited
development
of
affordable
housing.
L
I
think
siglin
dell
in
a
meeting
we
had
mentioned
this
this
case
around
2008
2009,
with
some
housing
near
quail
run.
So
there
is.
There
is
some
pretty
good
precedent
there.
So
we
would
ask
that
the
city
codify
the
practice
by
committing
10
percent
of
those
bonds
to
infrastructure
projects
that
would
facilitate
housing.
That's
that's
a
million
dollars
a
year
right
there
right,
so
we're
really
drilling
down
to
actual
numbers
here.
L
Hopefully,
getting
more
granular
the
next,
you
know
solution
we
want
to
propose,
and
it's
proposed
in
the
white
paper.
All
of
these
are
proposed
in
the
santa
fe
housing
action
coalition.
White
paper
is
the
sale
of
city-owned
property,
and
this
is
something
again.
Luckily,
we've
had
some
progress
on
since
we've
proposed
some
of
these
things
by
councillor
lindell
to
have
50
of
the
proceeds
of
city-owned
land,
go
towards
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund,
and
that's
exactly
what
we
requested
here.
L
There's
a
good
nexus
here
right,
our
amount
of
land
is
somewhat
proportional
to
to
what
we
can
build
on
it.
So
if
we
sell
land
the
idea
that
the
proceeds
of
that
should
come
back
to
the
affordable
housing,
trust
fund
makes
sense
and
it's
kind
of
a
great
situation.
L
L
Okay,
I'm
just
skipping
over
things,
great
okay!
I
want
to
get
into
gross
receipts
tax
discussion
a
little
bit
here,
and
this
is
probably
the
funding
source
that
we
discussed.
The
most,
maybe
is
the
most
contentious
in
some
ways,
mostly
because
it
represents
more
than
eighty
percent
of
our
city's
revenue
grosses.
These
tax
right
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
discussion
and
drawing
grt
for
affordable
housing
and
short-term
rentals
in
2019.
L
For
those
who
remember,
we
had
a
great
healthy
debate
in
the
city
about
short-term
rentals
and
homewise
conducted
a
study
around
that
underwrote,
along
with
the
thornberg
foundation.
One
of
the
important
insights
from
that
study
was
that
the
state
was
failing
to
collect
some
of
that
grt,
and
you
know
I
think
we
we've
gotten
to
the
bottom
and
and
worked
through
that
a
little
bit,
but
the
the
problem
with
the
the
short-term
rentals
is
it
didn't.
L
Justin,
doesn't
generate
probably
enough
grt
to
to
to
pick
up
this
piece
of
the
of
the
fund
right.
It's
probably
not
going
to
generate
the
million
dollars
we
need,
but
grt
deserves
to
be
considered,
and
what
we'd
like
to
propose
is
that
the
city
commit
us,
the
first
million
dollars
over
a
certain
amount
to
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
L
So,
whether
that's
you
know
a
cert,
the
the
first
million
dollars
after
the
budgeted
amount,
but
that
commitment,
I
think,
is,
is
really
important
and
it's
important
too,
when
we're
talking
about
grt,
one
of
the
kind
of
apprehensions
about
committing
grt
is
that
it's
flexible
money,
it's
budgeted
money
and
we
want
new
money
to
fund
this.
But
I
think
sometimes
you
get
caught
up
in
the
semantics
of
a
trust
fund.
It
doesn't
go
there
and
just
collect
dust
and
and
interest
for
a
number
of
years.
L
We
don't
have
to
wait
for
the
housing
crisis
to
mature
at
18
years
old
and
it
can
be
deployed
as
soon
as
400
000
is
in
there.
So
again
it
can
be
deployed
pretty
quickly.
It's
not
like
it
goes
there
and
just
sits
there
for
a
rainy
day.
So
so
we'd
really.
L
I
I
think
the
the
better
idea,
instead
of
tying
this
to
short-term
rentals
or
any
one
thing,
is
just
committing
a
certain
amount
over
what's
budgeted
and
then
just
to
dig
in
a
little
bit
on
just
some
other
strategies
that
we
think
merit
additional
resources.
Affordable
housing
bond
is
a
is
a
is
a
great
idea.
It's
you
know
one
that
city
of
albuquerque
did
it's
more
complicated.
L
It
should
go
to
the
voters
and
bonds
are
great
because
they're
a
democratic
solution,
but
it's
a
longer
term
one
right,
the
the
other
three
solutions
I
propose.
We
could
do
something
on
fairly
quickly
and
then
we
also
like
the
idea
as
previously
discussed-
and
I
won't
go
into
it
too
much,
because
other
presenters
did
of
eliminating
the
three
percent
property
tax
increase
cap,
especially
on
second
homes,
and
that's
a
a
an
idea.
You
know,
representative
mcqueen
has
put
forth
and
and
we'd
like
to
pursue
that
again.
L
I
don't
want
to
dig
into
too
many
more
details
because
we
are
running
late,
but
would
stand
for
questions
or
if
mike
has
other
things
to
mention.
B
Great
mike,
you
want
to
lend
your
wisdom
to
the
group
tonight
really
appreciate
you
being
here
since
I
I
think
you're
supposed
to
be
on
sabbatical,
but
clearly
your
your
expertise
is
such
that
we
just
can't
be.
We
can't
let
you
be
on
sabbatical
all
the
time.
A
Well,
it's
great
to
be
here
thanks
for
having
me,
so
I
think
the
the
you
know
I
I
think
rob
covered
it
really.
Well,
I
think
there
just
a
couple,
a
few
little
things
to
add.
I
think,
on
the
land
sales
on
the
land,
leases
of
city
land,
it's
kind
of
a
hot
mess
right
now
how
it
is
lots
of
guidance-
I
mean
so
one
advantage
of
of
the
proposal.
That's
been
floated
out
there.
A
Is
it
rationalized
how
that
money
gets
tributed
and,
having
you
know,
50
percent
of
that
earmark
for
the
trust
fund
would
be
great.
The
other
thing
on
the
on
the
cip
money.
A
You
know
under
mayor
coss
he
that
he
did
this
and
where
it
was
done,
then-
and
one
advantage
of
that
too,
is
like
you
know,
when
you're
building,
typically
when
you're
building
a
sewer
system
or
something
it's
just
an
expense
right
when,
when
it
went
into
the
housing
trust
fund,
we
used
it
for
that
stuff
on
old
las
vegas
highway.
So
we
did
over
double
the
amount
of
affordable
housing.
We'd
normally
do
because
we
had
that
extra
help.
It
got
used
to
help
infrastructure
for
apartment
buildings,
so
it
was
really
good.
A
But
what
happens?
Is
we
secure
that
cip,
subsidy
like
in
that
old,
las
vegas
highway
project
of
the
second
lien?
That's
that's
written
on
behalf
of
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
So
when
that
person
starts
what
daniel
was
talking
about
earlier,
when
that,
when
that
homeowner
sells
that
home
at
some
point
that
money
gets
recycled
back
into
the
trust
fund,
so
it's
you
know
it's
a
pretty
powerful
tool
and
I
think
you
know
we
were
really.
A
This
idea
of
reserving
a
portion
of
the
grt
we
like
that
so
that
there's
a
dedicated
income
stream
to
the
trust
fund.
I
think
coupling
it
to
short-term
rentals
directly
is
difficult,
because
it's
hard
to
know
where
grt
is
coming
from
state
doesn't
necessarily
break
that
all
out
for
you
in
the
way
that
you
need
to
know
it.
But
in
the
report
that
you
know
kelly
aldano
did
that
rob
mentioned.
You
know
it
was
like
there
was
about
a
million
and.
A
Not
being
collected
in
grt
at
short
term,
it
was
a
lot
of
money,
that's
changed.
The
good
news
is,
the
state
did
get,
did
take
action
and
now
that
that
that
stuff
is
being
collected,
so
we
thought
well,
that's
a
good
idea
to
use
at
least
conceptually
not
tie
every
dollar
to
it,
but
conceptually
that
that
could
go
into
the
housing
trust
fund.
We
completely
recognize
the
problem
with
that
idea.
A
Right
now
is
the
city
has
a
budget
problem
because
we're
in
a
recession-
and
you
know-
there's
issues
there
so
that
that's
right,
I
think
robert
sam's
like
well.
Could
there
be
some
kind
of
you
know
a
great
agreement?
That's
like
once
we're
back
on
firm
footing.
The
first
priority
is
of
extra
new
grt.
Money
is
to
go
into
the
trust
fund.
A
I
don't
think
we'd
be
in
favor
necessarily
of
raising
the
tax
rate,
because
it
is
a
regressive
tax
that
affects
lower
income
people
disproportionately,
but
to
the
degree
that
the
overall
revenues
is
growing
because
of
economic
growth.
You
know
earmarking
it
for
affordable
housing
would
be
good.
Related
to
that-
and
I
know
councilor
viral
raised-
concerns
about
the
property,
the
middle
of
the
idea
that,
like
that's,
what
city
of
albuquerque
does
for
its
workforce,
housing
trust
fund
and
that's.
A
I
think
that
is
a
good
option
to
do
that
kind
of
bond
funded
by
mill
levees.
I
think
your
concern
is
dead
on
is
like
what
we
don't
want
to
do
is
affect
people
who
could
that
a
property
tax
increase
could
could
could
harm
them
right.
So
I
think
dan,
what
daniel
said
of
making
sure
we
have
a
way
to
provide
assistance
to
people
who
are
on
fixed
incomes,
so
that
they're
not
negatively
affected
with
an
important
part
of
that
which.
H
A
Of
related
this
three
percent
property
cap
thing
too:
it's
like
you
know
we
need
to
help
those
folks
on
fixed
incomes,
keep
their
homes
capping.
You
know
a
two
million
dollar
home
on
high
park.
Road,
that's
the
second
home.
That's
that
is
used
to
two
weeks
out
of
the
year
makes
no
sense
right.
It's
like
they
should
be
paying
property
tax
on
the
full
value
of
that
property
right.
So
so
it's
okay!
A
I
mean
it's
good
that
people
are
asking
those
kinds
of
questions,
because
we
definitely
don't
want
to
cause
an
unintended
consequence
that
we're
going
to
great
regret
later.
So
I
really
appreciate
this
discussion
in
the
meeting
and
how
thorough
the
committee
is
on
digging
into
this
stuff.
So
thanks
a
lot.
B
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
being
here.
Questions
from
the
committee.
F
All
right,
thank
you
both
for
being
here
really.
Oh,
madam
chair,
just
a
clarifying
question.
I
think
mr
morlino
said
something
about
10
of
those
bonds.
What
what
bonds
were
you
referring
to.
L
Cip,
so
if
we're
talking
about
20
million
dollars
and
10
million
dollars,
let's
say
annually
in
cip
bonds,
we'd
like
to
requ,
you
know
request
or
propose
10
of
that
bond
amount
be
contributed
to
the
trust
fund,
which
would
which
would
represent
approximately
a
million
dollars.
So
these
are
kind
of
neatly
for
this
model
split
up,
roughly
into
thirds
right,
third
from
jira
or
a
million
dollars
from
grt
kind
of
a
million
dollars.
L
And
again
you
know
a
bit
of
a
straw
dog
here,
but
a
million
dollars
from
grt,
a
million
dollars
from
cip
and
a
million
dollars
or
have
you
know,
that's
variable,
but
hopefully
that
much
from
land
sales
as
well
and
then
obviously
the
additional
amount
that
we
haven't
really
mentioned
here,
of
the
existing
funding
that
gets
paid
from
fee
and
loo,
and
things
like
that.
F
B
H
Hey
thank
you
very
much
chair
romero,
wirth
and
and
counselors.
I
I
definitely
want
to
acknowledge
eli
isaacson,
alexander
ladd
and
kira
choa's
presentations.
I
think
that
those
were
really
important
to
get
a
good
baseline
understanding
from
the
context.
H
I
also
thought
it
was
pretty
important
for
me
to
go
after
some
of
the
non-profit
groups,
because
again,
I
think
the
non-profits
are
an
absolutely
critical
perspective
and
understanding
how
everything
else
that
I
say
kind
of
fits
into
some
of
these
strategies,
because
landy's
policies
are
so
contentious,
I'm
actually
going
to
spend
the
majority
of
my
time,
helping
us
think
about
affordable
housing
from
landi's
perspective
and
a
much
shorter
period
of
time
going
over
some
of
those
strategies.
H
So
to
talk
to
just
to
start
out,
you
know
we
know
that
there
are
very
high
costs
to
a
lack
of
affordable
housing.
We've
got
economic
costs,
environmental
costs,
social
costs.
I
kind
of
think
about
some
of
this
goal
being
accessible,
equitable,
stable,
inclusive
and
achievable,
affordable
housing,
there's,
there's
tons
of
different,
affordable
housing
strategies.
H
What's
important
is
that
we
can't
do
just
one.
We
have
to
be
working
on
multiple
fronts
at
once.
I
like
to
think
about
a
whole
spectrum
of
housing
strategies.
For
me,
it's
really
helpful
to
think
on
one
side
about
focusing
on
the
individual
support
and
immediate
needs,
and
that's
a
lot
of
what
the
non-profits,
what
alexander
lads
group,
what
kira
chowa's
group
has
really
talked
about:
supporting
unhoused
people,
subsidized
housing,
tenant
protections,
that's
really
important
on
immediate
and
really
individual
focus
on
the
systematic
changes
and
future
needs
we're.
H
Looking
at
much
broader
subjects,
things
like
income
wealth,
disparity,
we're
looking
at
different
types
of
taxation
strategies,
not
really
going
to
get
into
that.
I'm
focused
on
land
use,
land
use
regulation
so
for
land
use
regulation,
we're
really
thinking
about
the
inclusion
of
affordable
housing
in
market
rate
developments,
we're
thinking
about
improving
the
housing
ecosystem
and
we're
looking
at
comprehensive
equity,
land
use
and
urban
planning
strategies.
H
H
The
result
that
we
get
is
that
we
have
expensive
regulations
that
we
have
inequitable
regulations,
that
we
have
costly
approval
processes,
I'm
not
saying
that
we
don't
allow
housing,
it's
just
very
costly
to
get
there
and
we
encourage
building
to
be
as
expensive
as
possible,
rather
than
as
affordable
as
possible.
That's
really
important!
H
Generally
this.
This
contributes
to
a
lack
of
affordable
housing
and
unhealthy
housing
ecosystem.
I
like
to
bring
up
some
examples.
This
is
drastically
simplified,
but
we
could
think
you
know,
let's
say
michelle.
The
developer
wants
to
develop
on
a
particular
piece
of
property
thinking
about
fixed
costs,
I'm
just
simplifying
this
as
land
costs.
H
If
michelle
came
to
me
and
said
that
she
wanted
to
build
nine
units
on
a
property
that
would
be
you
know,
let's
just
say,
the
fixed
costs
are
around
a
hundred
and
eleven
thousand
dollars
coming
to
the
land
use
code
a
lot
of
times.
We
reduce
that,
so
we
might
reduce
that
down
to
six
units.
Reducing
that
down
to
six
units
means
that
we've
got
a
higher
cost
per
unit
right,
we're
just
talking
about
economies
of
scale.
H
So
let's
say
that
michelle
doesn't
want
to
to
work
with
only
six
units
and
decides
that
instead
she's
actually
going
to
try
to
develop
out
where
there
aren't
as
many
neighbors,
and
so
we
think
about
the
current
land
use
code,
preventing
height,
preventing
outward
expansion,
preventing
development
in
between
existing
neighborhoods.
H
H
What
what
can
be
hard
with
this
is
that
pushing
this
kind
of
development
out
results
in
higher
development
costs
which
are
deferred
to
new
residents,
so
you've
got
parks.
You've
got
water,
sewer
road
infrastructure,
all
of
those
utilities
that
developers
usually
pay
the
upfront
cost
for,
but
we
also
see
higher
city
costs,
so
all
of
that
infrastructure
life
cycle
the
city
is
liable
for
and
those
are
significant,
very
significant
costs.
H
We've
got
a
lot
of
senior
staff
that
are
quite
concerned
that
we
might
not
be
able
to
afford
the
infrastructure
we
have
in
the
next
20
30
40
50
100
years,
so
a
serious
consideration
for
the
city
and
existing
residents,
but
we
also
could
hire
resident
cost
of
living
and
transportation
costs.
This
is
a
huge
thing
that
the
groups
like
chainbreaker
have
brought
out
that
having
affordable
housing,
that's
an
hour
away
that
cost
between
five
and
fifteen
thousand
dollars
in
commuting
costs,
isn't
necessarily
affordable.
H
So
I
like
to
think
about
affordable
housing
as
a
bunch
of
happy
faces,
a
bunch
of
families
living
in
a
bunch
of
homes
really
just
try
to
simplify
this
down,
regardless
of
how
well
the
markets
are
working,
we're
almost
always
going
to
need
non-market-based
and
subsidized
housing,
and
that's
that's
just
a
fact.
I
you
know
in
this.
H
In
this
very
simplified
model,
we've
got,
we've
got
this
group
here
with
half
a
dollar
sign
right,
there's
an
inability
to
participate
in
the
market,
and
we
have
seen
a
lot
of
very
hard-working
non-profits
that
are
trying
to
work
on
that
in
santa
fe
we
have
a
shortage
of
housing
across
all
spectrums,
and
it
I
mean
from
from
from
the
absolute
luxury
housing
down
to
housing,
the
most
housing,
insecure
families.
We
have
a
housing
shortage
right
off
the
bat
that
kind
of
shortage
results
in
exclusion.
It's
exclusion
from
the
market.
H
This
could
be
more
than
half
of
the
working
population
has
to
commute
into
santa
fe.
It
could
be
the
different
families
that
are
doubling
up
families
that
are
living
in
garages
on
in
living
rooms,
etc,
etc.
H
What
we
also
see
is
we
see
displacement,
and
so
we
have
instances
where
higher
income
groups
are
able
to
out-compete
middle-income
groups,
displacing
them,
and
that
has
cascading
effects
where
now
middle-income
groups
are
displacing
lower-income
groups
and
out
competing
them.
The
market
response
from
this
is
that
we
get
inflated
housing
costs.
H
So
this
is
the
example
of
the
thousand
square
foot
bond,
glow
selling
for
550
000
or
more
I'm
in
different
areas.
So
that's
how
the
market
is
responding
to
this,
and
so
the
result
that
we
have
from
the
shortage
again
just
thinking
about
happy
faces
and
sad
faces
is
a
lot
of
sad
faces
even
for
housed
families
in
santa
fe.
We
have
a
high
high
degree
of
unaffordability
and
the
this.
This
results
in
significant
financial
losses.
H
So,
right
now
we
have
a
lot
of
hard-working
non-profits
and
public
institutions
that
are
trying
to
support
the
non-market-based
and
subsidized
housing
support,
and
this
is
absolutely
critical
that
we
put
focus
and
resources
into
the
support,
but
there
this
is
the
gap
that
daniel
was
talking
about
before
the
the
housing
gap
between
what
we
can
afford
and
what
we're
currently
providing.
It's
not
shrinking
it's
growing
and
we
will
never
have
enough
money
to
actually
subsidize
all
the
housing
that
we
need.
H
So,
from
a
land
use
perspective,
we
have
to
think
really
holistically
around
the
entire
housing
ecosystem,
and
it's
it's
fiercely
unpopular
but
like
it
or
not,
we
do
need
to
allow
more
market
rate
development.
H
If
we
don't
have
enough
housing
on
the
top
end
of
the
scale,
we
will
get
more
displacement
and
that's
that
is
just
how
how
it
works.
Whether
you
know
that's
how
markets
work
and
housing
is
a
is
a
market
that
we
have
to
deal
with
market
rate
development
is
not
a
primary
focus
for
land
use,
incentives
or
flexibility,
but
it
is
something
we
have
to
recognize
and
something
that
we
have
to
allow.
H
More
importantly,
where
land
use
regulations
can
focus
is
allowing
more
efficient
land
use
is
providing
incentives,
is
providing
subsidies
and
really
providing
more
support
for
the
different
kinds
of
income
categories.
Again,
thinking
quite
broadly
about
the
entire
health
of
the
housing
ecosystem,
so
the
housing
strategies
again,
so
we've
got
a
lot
of
different
housing
strategies
that
we
could
work
on.
Some
of
them
like
funding
the
housing
trust
is
really
on
subsidizing.
H
Housing
needs
that
we
have,
and
some
of
them
is
on.
You
know,
thinking
on
the
the
different
side
of
the
the
spectrum.
It's
on,
focusing
on
systematic
changes
to
our
housing
system
and
our
market
from
a
land
use
perspective.
H
We
could
focus
on
the
inclusion
of
affordable
housing
in
market
rate
developments,
so
really
trying
to
make
sure
that
when
market
rate
developments
are
coming
forward,
it's
not
just
being
lou,
but
it's
actually
providing
longer
term
stable,
affordable
housing
units.
They
could
talk
about
improving
the
housing
ecosystem,
which
is
everything
across
all
spectrums,
and
talk
about
comprehensive
equity,
land
use
and
urban
planning.
H
Now
I'll
focus
on
the
first,
the
the
last
one,
the
comprehensive
side.
So
the
current
land
use
code
is
focusing
on
existing
residents
and
minimizing
the
negative
effects
of
new
residents.
We
could
hypothetically
have
more
improvements
to
the
land
use
code
that
balance
existing
welfare
with
that
of
new
and
future
residents.
H
We
could
think
more
about
financially
sustainable,
long-term
land
use.
We
could
think
more
about
how
the
land
use
code
is
affecting
equity.
We
could
think
about
efficiency.
We
could
think
about
naturally
affordable
housing,
and
I
like
to
bring
up
the
natural,
affordable,
naturally
affordable,
housing,
because
again
we
can't
we
don't
have
enough
resources
to
subsidize
all
the
housing
we
need.
H
We
need
to
actually
have
instances
where,
where,
where
affordable,
housing
is
being
created
over
time
and
daniel
said,
wrote
it
down
somewhere,
but
one
of
the
best
ways
to
create
affordable
housing
is
to
not
have
to
create
it
right.
That's
that's
the
the
essence
of
naturally
affordable
housing
and
that's
what
we're
able
to
get
only
when
the
housing
market
is
actually
healthy.
Otherwise,
it's
always
a
catch-up
of
trying
to
subsidize
those
that
need
it
most.
H
H
These
kind
of
issues
are
incredibly
important,
but
also
incredibly
resource
intensive,
takes
a
lot
of
trust,
takes
a
lot
of
capacity.
The
city
does
not
have
the
capacity
to
engage
in
that
kind
of
comprehensive
long-range,
equitable
kinds
of
land
use
practices
right
now
and
we
haven't
engaged
in
in
comprehensive
planning
for
multiple
decades.
It's
been
quite
a
while,
since
we've
actually
been
able
to
get
more
into
to
thinking
about
these
kinds
of
values.
H
So
instead,
what
what
the
land
uses
department
has
tried
to
do
is
take
more
of
a
targeted
approach
to
think
about
land,
use
incentives
and
affordable
housing,
we're
looking
at
how
to
increase
the
affordable
housing
supply
and
how
to
allow
more
efficient
land
use
practices.
H
So
we
we
partnered
with
the
planning
commission
working
group.
We
created
a
planning,
commission
working
group
and
have
been
looking
at
this
a
little
bit
and
over
the
last
year,
we've
had
some
preliminary
discussions
with
a
whole
group
of
different
types
of
stakeholders
with
industry
professionals
with
different
types
of
advocate
organizations,
different
types
of
community
organizations
with
members
of
historic
preservation
groups,
and
we
really
narrowed
that
scope
on
inclusion
of
affordable
housing
in
market
rate
developments
and
on
again
kind
of
thinking
about
the
entire
housing
ecosystem.
H
How
we
could
get
that
is
that
we
need
to
allow
more
housing.
We
need
to
have
more
housing,
that's
more
naturally
affordable,
we're
thinking
about
streamlining
approval
processes,
mainly
for
small
projects,
but
thinking
about
ways
that
we
could
have
more
efficient
and
an
easier
approval
review.
H
We're
also
looking
quite
a
bit
at
allowing
more
flexible
and
efficient
designs.
So
that's
looking
at
things
like
increased
height,
looking
at
changing
setbacks,
changing
lot
coverage
changing
parking
requirements.
Of
course,
all
of
this
has
to
be
in
specific
areas
again.
These
are
all
very
general
concepts
that
we're
looking
at,
but
these
are
the
things
that
we're
starting
to
explore.
H
We're
also
looking
at
reducing
development
fees.
For
affordable
housing
projects,
so
thinking
about
impact
fees,
permitting
fees,
review
and
approval
fees,
and
that's
really
what
helps
a
lot
of
the
larger
projects.
A
lot
of
the
low
income
housing
tax
credit
projects
is
really
focusing
on
on
those
fees.
With
that
I'll
open
it
up
for
questions
and
see,
if
see,
if
there's
any
interest
in
talking
about
andy's
policies,.
B
Thank
you,
carlos.
If
you
could
stop
sharing
your
screen.
That
helps
me
keep
track
of
everybody,
and
my
computer
is
opening
up
something
I
don't
want.
I
are
there
questions
from
the
committee.
F
V
arielle.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
guys.
Thank
you,
carlos
for
your
presentation,
and
I
I
guess
I
was
just
thinking
about
this
director
isaacson
and
I
were
emailing
a
little
bit
about
this
today
and
constituents
bring
this
issue
up
to
me
time
and
time
again
about
development,
and
you
were
talking
about.
We
need
more
housing.
F
We
need
to
allow
more
housing
at
all
levels,
and
while
I
get
that
I'm
also
like
well,
how
do
I
explain
to
somebody
how
that
impacts,
our
our
natural
resources,
specifically
water,
and
I
am
not
sure
how
to
answer
that,
because
although
we
have
verified
that
multi-family
units
require
or
don't
use
as
much
water
as
some
single
family
dwellings,
we
all
are
necessary.
I
mean
we're
a
connected
system
to
the
rest
of
not
just
the
city
but
the
county,
so
any
kind
of
development
that's
occurring
does
impact
our
resources.
F
H
Yes,
madam
chair
and
counselors,
I
think
that's
a
a
a
really
important
question
and
and
exactly
as
you're
saying
one.
That's
that's
really
popular
to
be
talking
about,
I'm
I'm
not
in
the
water
division,
but
I
have
spoken
quite
a
bit
with
jesse
rush
who's,
the
the
director
of
that
division.
I
know
that
our
water
usage
hasn't,
I
believe
I
am
all
I
can
do-
is
talk
in
kind
of
some
generalizations,
but
I
believe
that
our
water
usage
has
decreased
quite
significantly
since
1993.
H
If
we
broaden
it
not
just
water,
because
because
at
water
we've
become
more
water
secure
in
the
last
few
decades,
we're
using
less
water
despite
more
growth,
we're
also
taking
water
resources
from
other
communities
throughout
the
rio
grande
and
bring
those
to
santa
fe.
So
we
are
continuously
strengthening
our
water
position.
We're
refilling
our
our
aquifers
right
now.
So,
in
my
conversations
with
the
water
division-
and
I
I
you
know-
probably
have
to
defer
to
them
for
anything
more
but
there's
not
a
water
concern
when
we
think
about
sustainability
within
the
city.
H
If
we
expand
that
conversation
a
little
bit
more
thinking
about
environmental
sustainability
of
city
growth,
if
we
don't
grow
in
the
city,
it
pushes
development
that
kind
of
development
is
being
pushed
to
espanola
to
las
vegas
to
el
dorado
to
rio.
Rancho
to
albuquerque
those
development
patterns
have
real
identifiable
impacts
on
carbon
rural
development
patterns.
One
could
argue,
might
use
more
water
than
than
developments
within
the
city.
The
city
has
incredible
green
building
requirements.
H
Those
green
building
requirements
vastly
surpass
what
we
find
in
different
types
of
county
development,
so
so
from
the
the
environmental
sustainability
perspective.
I
I
haven't
heard
a
good
argument
about
why
restricting
development
in
the
city
produces
any
kind
of
positive
impacts
actually
seems
like
it's
more
negative
to
be
restricting
growth
within
the
city.
F
Thank
you
for
your
response.
I
also
had
to
let
this
person
a
constituent
know
today
that
our
growth
rate
is
actually
very
low.
Last
I
heard
I
don't
know
about
now
with
this
boom,
but
it
was
less
than
one
percent.
F
I
don't
know
if
you
could
verify
that,
but
I've
understood
it's
less
than
one
percent
so
which
is
not
actually
healthy
for
any
city
with
that
kind
of
low
growth
rate
and
then
simultaneously
we
have
this
big
boom
coming
and
that
in
itself
are
they're
like
spurts
of
growth,
they're
not
consistently
like
they're,
not
consistent
through
the
years,
so
that
in
itself
impacts
us
in
negative
ways.
So
I
guess
I'm
just
it's
more
complicated
and
I'm
always
trying
to
figure
out
an
easy
way
to
explain
that
to
constituents.
H
Yeah,
madam
chair
and
counselors,
I
think
I
think
the
growth
issue
is
exactly
what
we
should
be
looking
at
more
you're
right
that
a
lot
of
the
projected
and
experienced
growth
since
2009
has
been
around
0.5
percent
annually.
H
Quite
low
unm
data
projections
are
still
projecting
that
we'll
be
growing
at
kind
of
this
slow
rate.
However,
director
isaacson
brought
up
a
lot
of
housing
permitting
data
that
permitting
data
was
a
huge
part
of
the
land
use
assumptions
I
put
together
over
the
last
six
months
and,
and
we
see
an
entire
shift
in
how
that
growth
has
happened.
H
I
mean
we're
seeing
much
more
rapid
growth
than
we've
seen
between
the
2009
to
kind
of
2016
rate,
we're
we're
vastly
exceeding
what
those
projections
are,
and
so
I
think
growth
rates
kind
of
depend
on
what
data
you
use,
but
but
yeah
we
are
growing
the
city's
growing
quite
a
bit.
B
Thank
you,
carlos
thank
you,
director,
isaacson,
for
being
here,
really
appreciate
it
we'll
be
circling
back.
I
know
for
future
presentations
as
we
flesh
out
some
of
the
ideas
and
issues
that
have
come
up
in
our
in
our
meeting
tonight,
and
I
really
appreciate
everybody
who's
been
here.
So
thank
you
with
that.
We
are
done
with
our
presentations
matters
from
staff.
Jennifer.
Do
you
have
anything?
B
B
Matters
from
the
chair,
the
only
matter
I
have
is
that
our
next
meeting
is
february
17th,
and
we
will
continue
these
conversations
and
again
thanks
for
everybody
who
was
here.
Thank
you
for
the
committee
for
for
your
questions
and
and
conversation
and
councilwoman
via
real.
You
have
one
more
idea.