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B
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B
B
But
concise
when
coming
to
the
microphone,
you
will
need
to
identify
yourself
and
your
relationship
to
the
project.
The
Commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
presentation
and
your
project
should
be
presented
in
the
following
order:
the
site
plan,
the
elevations,
architectural
details
and
wall
sections
staff
will
then
present
their
staff
report,
and
we
will
then
ask
for
public
comment
following
a
presentation
that
Commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
the
presentation
when
coming
to
the
microphone.
Please
State
and
spell
your
name.
B
B
Please
note
that
the
arc
can
only
act
on
items
that
are
within
our
specific
jurisdictional
responsibility.
Owner
agents
are
independently
responsible
to
obtain
any
appropriate
permits
and
or
approvals.
Now,
if
you
haven't
already
done
so,
please
do
silence
your
cell
phones
and
I'll.
Ask
my
fellow
Commissioners
to
begin
and
to
introduce
themselves
starting
on
my
left.
D
B
A
B
That,
okay,
so
if
I
could
please,
unless
there
are
other
their
comments,
enter
into
the
record
meeting
minutes
from
the
May
1st
and
May
3rd
2023
Architectural
Review
commission
meetings.
F
I
moved
to
except
the
Monday
May
1
and
Wednesday
May
3rd
2023
meeting
minutes.
G
Thank
you,
and
just
for
the
to
inform
the
board.
We
had
discovered
a
or
someone
had
actually
informed
us
of
a
typo
on
the
April
5th
minutes
that
were
adopted,
small
error,
but
still
in
order
to
be
accurate,
we'd
like
to
amend
that
it
was
under
the
case
Arc
23-131
and
it
was,
it
should
have
read
it
Hyde
Park
design,
guidelines
in
the
sentence
and
it
read
hide
design
guidelines.
G
One
last
matter
of
business
I
do
have
the
arc
staff
approvals
for
May
2023
to
provide
for
the
record.
It
will
be
provided
to
the
clerk
and
I
did
want
to
announce
that
we
will
be
holding
the
second
part
of
our
June
cycle.
Public
hearings,
this
Wednesday
June
7th.
We
do
have
some
cases
on
the
agenda
for
that
evening
and
with
that,
I
would
turn
this
over
to
our
legal
counsel.
For
the
conflict
of
interest
and
expert,
a
communication
disclosure.
H
Good
evening
Commissioners,
we
have
two
questions
this
evening,
I'd
like
to
ask
if
any
member
of
the
commission
has
a
conflict
of
interest
with
any
item
on
the
agenda.
I.
C
H
G
Moving
on
to
continuations,
we
do
have
two
continuations
that
we
need
to
act
upon
this
evening.
Both
were
received
rather
late,
so
they
will
be
the
first
case.
Arc
23-180
also
referred
to
as
tacpa
23-05.
That
case
is
the
applicant
did
request
to
continue
to
the
August
7th
2023
public
hearing
at
5
30
PM.
We
could
have
a
motion
for
that.
F
I
moved
to
move
the
or
continue
the
arc
23-180
ta
CPA
23-05
to
the
August
7th
2023
public
hearing
at
5
30..
Second,.
B
G
G
Just
for
your
information,
we
do
have
a
very
full
agenda
in
July.
Coming
up.
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
travel
and
vacations
over
the
summer.
So
if
you
know
of
anything
coming
up
in
your
schedules,
if
you
would
please
let
staff
know
so
that
we
could
try
to
accommodate
our
caseload
and
with
that,
we
are
ready
for
our
only
case
for
this
evening.
Arc
23-158
for
the
property
located
at
4904,
West,
North,
Suwanee,
Avenue
and
Lane
will
provide
the
staff
overview
for
that
case.
G
So
anyone
in
the
audience
who's
going
to
be
presenting
or
providing
testimony
this
evening,
if
you
could
stand
and
raise
your
right
hand.
I
Okay
good
evening,
Commissioners
Elaine
Lund
historic
preservation
staff.
The
the
item
we'll
be
hearing
this
evening.
This
case
Arc
23-158
for
the
property
located
at
4904
North
Suwanee
Avenue
in
the
Seminole
Heights
historic
district.
This
is
currently
a
vacant
parcel
and
the
applicant
is
proposing
new
construction
of
a
primary
structure
and
also
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
I
I
I
I
J
My
address
is
five:
six
four,
six
Tranquility
Oaks
Drive,
Tampa
and
I
will
start
by
addressing
site
plan.
J
J
K
J
J
J
I
can
adjust
it.
Okay,
yeah
the
fence
was
removed.
We
remove
the
fence
at
the
front
of
the
structure.
The
only
friends
that
we
actually
have
is
the
the
reduce
the
visual
for
the
AC
unit,
the
material
of
Defense.
J
J
Front
of
the
home,
we
did
provide
a
two
foot
overhang
as
requested
six
inch
trims
wood
trims.
We
have
the
cut
sheets
for
the
trims,
which
I
will
show
you
later
on
the
brakes.
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
We
try
to
get
something
to
match
this
like
that
again.
J
J
J
Style
of
the
door
hardware
you
use
on
the
front,
however,
with
I
just
wanted
to
show
the
profile,
but
we
plan
to
use
raw
handle
because
I
got
a.
J
But
finish
like
this,
which
is
actually
looks,
have
the
option
to
go
with
the
wrong
which
we
choose
to
to
match
start.
I
Thank
you,
Elaine
Lund,
historic
preservation,
staff
staff
found
this
application
consistent
with
the
Seminole
Heights
design
guidelines.
We
did
meet
with
the
applicant
prior
to
the
public
hearing
and
reviewed
the
drawings
and
discussed
many
of
the
proposed
comments
with
the
applicant
at
that
time.
One
thing
I'd
like
to
note
is
that
the
siding
that
was
presented
was
wood,
grain
textured
and
typically
the
board
approves
smooth,
Hardy,
siding
or
smooth
segmentitious
sighting,
and
with
that
I'm
available
for
any
questions.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
Elaine
see
no
one
in
the
audience.
I
assume
we
have
no
public
comment,
but
I
will
ask
if
there
is
public
comment
tonight,
nope
so
move
on
to
our.
The
commissioner
is
asking
questions
and
I'll
show
my
left
tonight.
Mr
Myers.
D
First
start:
please,
sir,
you
presented
to
us
a
pair
of
French
doors,
the
glass
doors
and
I
believe
those
who
are
planned
to
be
on
your
rear
porch.
D
Did
you
present
to
us,
or
are
you
tonight
a
an
entry
door
at
the
front
of
your
dwelling,
or
are
you
planning
on
using
the
same
kind
of
door
as
a
single.
J
We
actually
got
that
from
the
historic.
J
D
K
J
Those
are,
those
are
topographic
points,
those
X's.
J
So
oh
I'm,
sorry,
that's
in
the
software
we're
supposed
to
when
we
select
everything's
on
the
same
sheet
and
we
supposed
to
control
it
by
existing
demo
and
new.
However,
this
note
seem
to
be
on
the
on
the
existing
sheet.
So
this
note
was
really
for
this.
So
there's
no
fancy
at
the
time
there.
J
Yes,
I
have
a
few,
which
is
which
I
think
is
for
you.
J
D
So
then,
let's,
let's
go
back
to
your
site
plan
and
let's
talk
about
your
proposed
new
fencing.
D
A
J
D
Do
you
have
drawings
or
photographs
of
what
you
plan
to
have
for
this
fence,
construction
and
or
gate
Construction?
The.
D
Thank
you
one
last
item.
Please,
sir,
can
you
please
pull
up
to
us
your
typical
wall
sections.
D
Okay,
we
start
at
the
top.
Can
you
run
to
us
what
you
are
intending
to
do
with
your
exposed?
Rafter
ends.
J
J
The
engineering
trusses
are
two
by
fours
profile
as
a
contractor
and
a
slash
designer
I,
don't
think
the
two
by
fours
will
look
match
the
historic,
so
my
intent
was
to
have
the
engineering
company
give
us
because
they
their
forces
added
on
today
on
to
the
ends
on
operate
rest
on
the
wall.
So
I
was
trying
to
get
I
was
my
intent
was
to
get
them
to
laugh.
J
K
J
Six
finish
here,
which
will
and
this
year
will
some
engineering
so
that
they
can
take
the
force
of
the
eve,
but
that'll
have
to
be
designed.
So
that
was
my
intent,
because
I
really
don't
want
to
get
into
the
conventional
frame
and
I'm.
Also
the
contractor
on
the
job,
so
I
didn't
want
to
get
to
the
conventional
treatment
and,
at
the
same
time,
I
wanted
to
give
that
two
by
four
sorry,
two
by
six
edges
on
the
outside.
J
D
J
Okay,
that's
that's
me.
Trusting
the
software.
Normally
it's
changed.
This
is,
as
you
guys
know,
this
is
BMI,
so
once
it's
changed
in
one
place,
it's
changing
all
the
joints
automatically.
For
some
reason,
this
View
didn't
up
did
Now,
update
and
I.
Think
that's
a
little
software
glitch
the
supposed
to
automatically
update
because,
as
you
can
see
in
all
the
other
profiles,
it's
it's
even
these
sections.
J
K
D
I
understand
glitches.
It
happens
more
often
than
not
so
you're
going
to
have
these
exposed.
Rafter
Tails
correct.
So
if
you
get
a
look
up
at
your
at
your
at
these
soffit
areas,
you
will
see
the
deck
correct.
The
deck.
J
A
J
D
But
that's
your
intent,
that's
my
attempt.
I
have
no
objection
to
that
again
to
your
section.
Please.
We
talked
about
the
top.
Let's
talk
about
the
bottom.
I'll
use
this
one
yep,
that's
a
good
one!
Okay,
I
understand
you're
doing
dealing
with
a
a
block,
stem
wall
and
you're
building
a
frame
wall
on
top
of
that.
Yes,
how
are
you
planning
on
finishing
finishing
the
exterior
of
that
stem
wall?
The
part
that
is
visible
all
around
this
house?
Is
it
going
to
be
blocked?
C
D
A
keynote,
so
you
know
okay
and
the
last
item
I
have
you
showed
us?
The
hardware
I
understand
what
you're
trying
to
do
with
that
on
the
exterior
of
both
your
your
main
dwelling
and
your
accessory
dwelling.
Do
you
have
any
lighting.
D
J
B
E
K
E
E
J
J
E
E
J
If
it's
an
issue,
we
can
move
it,
but
we
were
trying
to
avoid
having
that,
since
we
have
to
pass,
have
a
driveway
there
we're
trying
to
avoid
conflict
of
somebody
running
into
the
stairs.
So.
E
E
J
So
my
intent
is
that
when
we
get
to
building-
and
we
actually
doing
direct
communication
with
natural
resources
extra
Etc-
maybe
we
can
find
out
get
into
some
kind
of
details
where
we
can
modify
the
way
we
do
this
Foundation
or
something
that
we
can
get
around
there
or
we
can
actually
go
since
we
now
in
construction,
we
can
physically
go
and
maybe
I
had
the
project
where
they
made
us
prune,
The
Roots,
and
so
we
have
somebody
so
at
this
time.
J
J
Yes,
the
issue
we
have
with
that
is
because
we
have
the
parking
here.
We
also
have
the
same
issue
right
here,
so
this
with
a
pack
and
we
are
allowed
to
go
I.
Think
it's
like
three
feet
or
something
like
that
from
the
boundary
line
on
the
other
side
of
the
hole
we
allow
seven
feet
which
kind
of
satisfy
our
condition.
So
if
we
flip
it
around
we'll
be
with
the.
E
E
E
J
J
J
Let's
slap
this
bait,
we
have
to
have
at
least
two
sections
here
and
here
most
likely
we
have
two
sections.
We
can
go
this
way
and
this
way
now,
of
course,
we'll
have
a
score
in
here
and
we
do
some
calculation
but
I
think
maybe
about
every
10
feet.
E
J
Honestly,
my
mind
went
because
the
last
time
we
were
here,
we
actually
had
a
fancier
and
we
had
a
gate
separating
the
two
properties.
So
when
that
question
was
asked,
my
mind
went
straight
to
that
gate.
But,
yes,
you'll
have
a
small
gate
which
looks
exactly
like
the
fence
to
get
in
there
that
common
gate
with
a
little
latch
to
get
through
the
on
this
side.
E
J
Yes,
I'll
be
open
that
that's
that's!
Okay,
I,
don't
think
we
have
an
issue
with
it
that
I
was
trying
to
avoid,
because
it's
a
historic
department-
and
you
know
they
try
to
have
everything.
Look
but
I
look
at
most
of
the
houses
down
the
street.
Most
of
them
have
no
fence.
E
Where
do
you
plan
to
put
your
like
your
service
meter
things
of
that
nature,
because
that
may
determine
that
in
that
location
will
be
the
same?
Okay
I
didn't
see
it
on
the
floor
or
I.
Guess
we
didn't
really
look
at
a
floor
plan.
It
might
be
on
the,
but
you'll
have
to
obviously
keep
that
in
front
of
the
fence.
So,
yes,
they
can
well.
J
It
hold
on.
Let
me
let
me
show
up
that
question
before
I
say.
J
E
E
F
B
But
I
have
some,
maybe
the
thought
process
I'd
like
to
go
to
the
accessory
dwelling
unit.
So
we
talked
about
the
elevation
for
the
primary
structure.
What
is
the
finished
floor?
Elevation
for
the
accessory
dwelling
unit.
J
J
B
B
J
J
B
Be
to
be
confirmed
with
storm
water.
J
B
B
And
then
can
I
see
the
rear,
elevation
again,
I
think
I
know
which
one
it
is
but
of
the
Adu.
B
The
window
seems
very
low.
B
What's
the
bearing
height
of
your
your
of
your
trusses
for
the
Adu.
J
Nine
foot,
it's
nine
foot
above
the
eight
inches
above
the
Finish
floor.
What's.
J
B
B
And
you
said
it
again
during
an
answer
to
somebody
else's
question:
the
overhangs
on
the
Adu
are
two
foot
as
well.
Yes,.
J
B
Typically,
in
a
historic
and
even
non-historic,
you'll
you'll
see
primary
structures
have
larger
scale,
we'll
have
deeper
overhangs
they'll.
Have
you
know
the
windows
scale
to
the
size
of
the
primary
and
the
windows
scale
to
the
size
of
the
accessory
and
accessory
units
are
always
smaller,
they're,
more
diminutive,
right,
they're
secondary
to
the
primary
I
think
the
scale
of
the
windows
are
off
one.
B
That's
why
this
is
throwing
me
and
that's
why
I'm
asking
what
your
bearing
height
is
because
it
doesn't
seem
correct
and
then
the
overhangs,
even
though
I
know,
staff
had
made
a
comment
of
considered
two
foot
overhangs.
We
typically
will
see
even
in
historic
properties,
that
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
doesn't
have
the
same
extension.
So.
J
J
J
Yeah,
the
only
the
only
issue
we
have
with
with
this
reducing
the
size
of
the
windows
is
that
for
egress
in
the
bedroom
of
the
age,
radio
we
have
to
maintain
the
egress
size,
which
is
the
minimum
we
can
do.
Is
the
width
is
24
20,
inches,
24,
inches
I.
J
B
B
I
still
think
that
there
can
be
some
consideration.
Where's
your
floor
plan
for
the
Adu.
B
J
From
the
cut
sheets
of
the
windows
that
we
provided,
some
of
the
I
don't
want
to
cost
you
any
money,
but
some
of
the
windows
are
which
I've
gotten
away
with,
where
we
have
the
double
home.
With
this
with
the
windows
can
flip
and
because
it
can
flip
it
goes
up.
We
can
get
the
egress
with
a
shorter
window.
B
J
K
K
B
J
K
B
D
This
is
good,
okay!
Well,
you
have
this
I
know
you
have
a
basically
two
by
six
framing.
Do
you
have
a
similar
wall
section
where
you
show
how
you're
installing
your
window,
all.
D
Okay,
let's
talk
about
where
this
window
is
in
the
wall.
We
have
a
two
by
Ace.
We
have
a
two
by
six
frame
wall
and
this
is,
of
course,
a
manufacturer's
standard
installation,
detail
yeah
and
if
you
take
a
look
at
where
there,
where
your
manufacturer
says
this
window
needs
to
go,
is
that
it's
getting
almost
placed
to
the
exterior
face
of
your
building.
D
A
J
J
I
thought
I
had
a
detail
here
because
we
spoke
about
that
yesterday,
because
I
have
a
a
good
friend
of
mine,
who
is
historic,
crazy
and
he
got
he
was
mad
with
me.
What
I
told
him
I
came
here
and
I
suggest
some
things
and
he
said
you're
supposed
to
know
better
you.
You
have
a
plaque
on
your
wall
about
historic
homes
and
you
went
there
and
you
did
this
and
he
was
yeah
with
my
son
and
he
was
yelling,
and
so
he
said
well,
he
can
come
up.
J
J
J
E
E
E
I've
only
got
one
last
question:
it
actually
revolves
around
the
Adu
and
I
think
it
if
you
pull
that
elevation
back
up
that
you
were
you
had
up
while
ago,
the
windows
and
doors
on
this
particular
unit
do
seem
off
I.
Think
it's
a
scale
issue.
J
It's
an
error
on
my
part:
when
I,
would
we
one
of
the
comments
from
Cydia
Tambo
was
to
make
the
we
had
the
front
windows
wide
and
they
matched
on
the
Adu.
E
E
B
J
Could
be
possible
because
what
happened
is
that
the
wig
was
designed,
and
we
have
one
two
three
four
levels
and
we
had
that
on
the
floor
level.
I
think
one
of
my
designers
might
have
just
adjusted
the
building
and
not
add
another
level
which
would
be
the
level
for
the
Adu
building
and.
B
J
Just
missed
that
one,
but
we're
going
to
reduce
all
of
them.
Let
me
find
this
drawing
trying
to
build
in
section.
J
J
J
B
J
You
got
to
do
that
for
construction.
I
got
to
put
the
dimensions
here
so
when
we're
doing
construction
so
I
guess
that
should
be
addressed.
Yes,
the
flow
he
didn't
move
the
inside
of
the
floor.
That's
that's
what
it
is
here.
This
is
the
old,
well
I
told
them
to
prepare
for
the
arc
which
is
exterior,
so
maybe
I
should
have
told
you
well.
E
J
For
for
construction
purposes,
we
don't
have
a
choice
we
got.
We
have
to
have
that
rectified.
J
No,
not
really
all
I.
All
the
only
one
thing
is
that
the
edu,
if
you
I
I'm,
assuming
you
allow
you
want
us
to
have
the
ease
reduced.
J
Okay,
but
the
whole
idea
is
that
you
will
like
it
to
look
proportionate
to
the
home.
So
you
look
at
the
home
and
you
see
this
everything
other
sit
inside
and
it's
like
a
mini
home.
So
those
windows
where
we
can
flip
the
pain
I
can
maybe
get
those
with
the
egress
opening
satisfied.
If
there's
only
Bugatti,
Windows
smaller
as
possible,
reduce
the
even
we
don't
have
to
go
to
12
inches,
maybe
16.
J
B
B
E
So
the
first
one
for
me
is,
is
the
placement
and
I
know
he's
biting
with
trees?
I
mean
we
hear
this
quite
often
these
days,
one
of
the
things
that
wasn't
discussed
was
was.
F
E
F
E
F
Got
that
was
from
the
tree
natural
resources,
natural
resources
specifically
said
nothing
in
the
drip
line
and
I
and
I
I've
I've
built
the
inside
drip
lines
before
you.
Just
you
know
great
beam
over
the
roots
and
doing
you
know
do
do
some
fancy
structural
work
to
encroach
upon
that,
but
that
letter
specifically
said
nothing.
B
What
I
heard
was
there's
the
possibility
during
the
construction
period,
which
I
think
is
a
little
too
late.
You
know
oftentimes
in
projects
we
go
back
and
we
have
a
discussion
about.
Are
there
possibilities
and
whether
or
not
that
was
done
is
not
something
we
asked.
So
all
I
can
say
is
that,
based
on
the
fact
that
they
have
the
two
trees
at
the
front?
And
it's
been
noted
in
that
record
and
we
have
no
one
else
to
ask
further
questions
of.
We
have
to
take
it
as
as
given
to
us
tonight.
B
D
I
find
this
to
be
a
a
to
me,
an
acceptable
and
modest
dwelling
project
as
being
proposed.
However,
they
I
see
where
there
is
a
need
for
a
continuing
coordination
for
a
whole
host
of
details.
Some
of
them
are,
we
discussed
this
evening
and
some
of
them
have
been
presented
in
part,
but
not
entirely
within
the
documentation
presented
tonight.
As
an
example
of
the
concrete
cap
to
the
the
piers
for
the
the
porch
and
the.
D
F
D
E
E
D
So
we'll
get
that
we
have
the
inside
the
windows
we
talked
about,
we
have
the
smooth
trim
and
and
the
the
thicker
beefier
five
quarter-
trim
boards
coordination
item
for
the
staff,
really
the
final
determination
for
the
fence.
Where
are
the
terminations?
Where
are
the
runs?
Where
are
the
gates?
D
J
D
Light
details
there's
the
light
that
was
presented
but
they're
not
shown
on
the
drawings,
but
we
do
see
on
the
unreflected
ceiling
plant.
You
know
the
locations
for
lights
in
the
ceiling.
B
D
Yeah
I
mean
I
I,
think
I
think
this
is
all
for
them
to
coordinate.
I
agree.
You
know
within
the
documents
themselves
and
with
staff
before
they
really
jump
the
gun
and
go
go
straight
into
Construction
kind
of
blind
on
some
of
these
details,
because
it'll
come
up
back
and
bite
them
for
that
matter.
I
agree.
C
No
I'm
making
notes
thank
you.
They
were
taking
notes.
E
F
B
It's
it's
more,
it's
it's
also
more
consistent
with
what
you
would
see
in
true
materials
right,
so
the
whole
Shadow
play
is
so
important
and
that's
really
what
sets
the
districts
apart.
F
F
C
C
We
seem
to
have
that
worked
out,
but
okay
and
the
inside
of
Windows
window
sizes
and
insets,
because,
based
upon
the
finding
effect,
the
pros
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
Seminole
Heights
historic
district
guidelines
of
the
city
of
Tampa.
For
the
following
reason
that
it
is
consistent
with
the.
F
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Those
in
favor,
please
State
ionization
hand
indicating
so
all.
D
K
C
F
I
moved
to
enter
into
the
record
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