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A
A
A
B
Over
here
today,
Monday
May
1st
2023
public
hearing
for
the
city
of
Tampa's
Architectural
Review
commission
welcome.
I
am
Susan
klausmith
I
am
the
chair
of
the
commission
I'm,
also
a
licensed
architect.
If
you're
here
to
present
a
project,
you
will
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentation,
so
we
suggest
being
thorough
but
concise.
B
The
Commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
presentation
and
your
project
should
be
presented
in
the
following
order:
the
site
plan,
the
elevations,
architectural
details
and
wall
sections
staff
will
then
present
their
staff
report,
and
we
will
then
ask
for
public
comment
following
your
presentation.
The
Commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
your
presentation
when
coming
to
the
microphone.
Please
do
state
and
spell
your
name
clearly
whether
you
are
here
to
and
whether
or
not
you
are
here
to
speak
for
against
a
project.
Your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
B
So
take
some
time
now.
To
summarize
your
comments,
because
three
minutes
goes
by
very
quickly
following
the
public
comment
period,
the
applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal
and
then
the
public
hearing
will
be
closed.
The
only
comments
which
will
be
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
is
closed
will
be
in
response
to
any
questions
from
the
commissioners.
B
The
Commissioners
will
then
discuss
the
case
and
will
make
their
decision
based
on
the
city
ordinance
chapter
27
of
the
City
Zoning
code,
the
design
guidelines,
the
Secretary
of
interior
standards,
historic
preservation,
development
review
or
HP
DRC
comments
and
the
testimony
given
at
the
public
hearing
tonight.
Please
note
that
the
arc
can
only
act
on
items
that
are
within
our
specific
jurisdictional
responsibility,
owners
and
or
agents
are
independently
responsible
to
obtain
any
appropriate
permits
and
or
approvals.
B
F
B
G
C
H
Evening,
Christopher's
Dennis,
Fernandez,
Architects
review
and
historic
preservation
manager
welcome
to
this
evening's
public
hearing
to
you,
our
applicants
and
the
public.
Just
briefly,
I
wanted
to
announce
that
we
will
be
holding
a
hearing
on
Wednesday
May,
the
3rd
to
handle
the
remainder
of
our
cases
other
than
that
I'll
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
conflicts
of
interest
and
ex
parte
communication
and
ask
our
legal
counsel
to
handle
that
for
us.
I
Good
evening
Commissioners
Dana
Crosby
Collier
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
The
first
question
that
we
have
regarding
conflict
of
interest
is
whether
any
member
has
a
conflict
of
interest
with
any
item
on
the
agenda
this
evening.
I
do.
D
H
H
D
C
B
E
B
J
H
H
K
The
site
is
currently
a
vacant
parcel
in
2019,
the
building
that
was
on
the
site
caught
fire
and
the
there
was
an
authorization
by
the
department
director
and
by
code
enforcement
to
demolish
the
contributing
structure.
K
The
site
has
since
been
vacant,
and
today
we're
hearing
a
request
for
new
construction
on
the
side
of
a
primary
structure,
with
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
With
that
I'll
move
into
the
photo
presentation.
K
K
Then
you
can
also
see
the
proximity
to
the
Hillsborough
High
School,
and
note
that
this
is
located
on
Sewanee
Avenue,
with
Osborne
shown
as
the
street
to
the
South
and
violet
is
shown
as
the
street
to
the
north.
K
Again,
this
is
the
the
aerial
showing
the
location
again
of
4904
North
salani
Avenue
on
the
west
side
of
Suwanee,
with
Osborne
Avenue
directly
to
the
South
and
the
line
of
the
historic
district
shown
there
in
blue.
K
This
is
the
property
directly
to
the
the
north,
also
vacant
and
the
property
directly
to
the
South.
K
This
is
looking
North
along
Sewanee
Avenue.
If
you
look
closely
at
the
left
side
of
the
picture,
the
house
in
blue
is
the
next
nearest
structure
to
the
north
and
then
the
view
looking
South
along
Sewanee
Avenue.
K
L
My
afternoon,
my
name
is
Glenn
Utley
Glen,
o-t-t-l-e-y
I'm,
the
contractor,
slash
designer
and.
L
Our
driveway
main
structure
and
auxiliary
structure
we
were
asked
requested
to
align
this
building
together
with
the
driveway
on
this
side.
On
this
side
of
the
property.
However,
there
is
a
36
inch
oak
tree
here
and
some
other
trees
at
the
neighbor's
property.
So
we
don't
think
it's
a
wise
that
we
might
when
we
get
a
building,
we
might
have
some
restrictions
as
far
as
putting
the
building
all
the
way
across
there.
So
that's
the
reason
why
we
kind
of
kept
it
on
this
side
of
the
building
of
that
sort
of
the
property.
L
This
year
represents
our
fence
garage
that
hides
the
egg
condition
unit.
So
it
cannot
be
see
from
seen
from
the
street
we
are
at
with
our
impervious
area.
We
are
at
43
or
something
yeah,
yes
about
43,
so
we
we
are
under
the
50
Cent
50
rule.
L
This
is
celebration,
this
is
the
front
of
the
property
and
we
have
silence
brick
column
all
the
way
down.
L
We
were
asked
to
have
two
foot
ease
because
that's
the
common,
the
common
building
back
then,
but
with
today's
building
called,
we
are
kind
of
requested
to
shorten
ease
to
avoid
lift
of
hurricane
left
on
roofs.
So
most
jurisdiction
assets
been
designed
to
make
the
ease
at
least
one
foot
or
16
inches.
L
This
is
the
EDU
which
we
west
and
south
elevation
try
to
make
it
look
almost
exactly
as
the
main
structure.
L
L
L
We
we
intend
to
use
Hadi
Hardy
trim
for
the
all
the
trim
material.
This
is
an
example
of
what
they
trim
could
look
like
windows
with
Hardy.
This
here
is
where
we're
gonna
put
on
the
foundation
where
we
have
the
stem
wall,
so
it
does.
We
don't
have
that
block
finish,
and
this
is
some
of
the
exterior
lights
that
something
like
this.
We
plan
to
use
for
the
exterior
lights.
L
L
This
because
I
think
that's
the
only
thing
I
mean
our
floor
is
under
it's
20
inches
high,
so
we
don't
buy
cold.
We
don't
require
railings.
So.
L
M
K
L
K
Commissioners
staff
initially
found
this
project
to
be
inconsistent
with
a
number
of
conditions.
The
information
that
we
initially
reviewed
did
not
provide
enough
detail
for
our
review
and
determination.
The
drawings
were
developed
further
by
the
applicant
and
they
are
consistent
with
the
design
guidelines.
However,
there
is-
and
there
were
a
number
of
conditions
and
I
would
suggest
that
you
review
the
some
of
the
details,
just
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
overall
consistent
with
the
intent
of
the
design
guidelines
for
new
construction
in
the
district.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
miss
Lynn
when
I
open
the
hearing
to
public
comment.
If
there's
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
like
to
come
for
the
board
and
speak
either
for
against
the
project,
you
may
do
so
at
this
time,
but
seeing
anyone
will
go
ahead
and
we
will
begin
asking
questions
starting
on
my
right
this
evening,
commissioner
Sutton
any
questions.
F
F
Do
you
have
a
a
list
of
examples
of
where
you
received
your
design
input
for
this
dwelling
because
it
seems
to
be
out
of
place
in
this
general
area?
Are.
F
M
The
Seminole
Heights
historic
district,
or
are
you
talking
about
within
that
street
and
block
both
well
I,
can
assure
you,
sir,
from
the
street
and
block
it
is
not
outside
of
what
the
intent
of
the
arc
is.
M
I've
done,
extensive
review
of
the
block,
and
there
are
many
non-conforming
structures
all
moving
North
from
Osborne
to
Violet
on
both
sides
of
the
Stream
within
the
district
itself.
I
think
that
the
intent
on
my
part
and
my
agent
and
contractor
is
to
fulfill
what
the
arc
is
looking
to
have
in
that
area.
So,
but
you
have.
F
F
L
Guide
we.
F
Two
items
reflecting
some
site
plan
detail
am
I
correct
in
reading
that
there
is
a
fence
to
be
installed
that
would
be
separating
the
primary
dwelling
from
the
accessory
dwelling
area
unit.
That's
what
we
have
shown
at.
F
F
E
You
reference
the
elevation
on
the
front
as
to
20
inches
to
the
porch
and
24
inches
to
the
actual
residence.
Did
you
pull
a
average
up
and
down
the
street
to
be
able
to
give
us
some
sort
of
evidence.
A
M
L
L
E
M
E
I
know
what
the
city
site
plan
or
site
setback.
That's
not
what
I'm
asking
what
I'm
trying
to
find
out
is
the
existing
homes
that
are
currently
there,
regardless
of
how
far
or
close
they
are.
They
are
on
the
street,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
get
an
idea
is.
Is
that
number
or
what
is
that
number
in
reference
to
what
you're
proposing.
A
J
E
L
L
We
picked
the
off
from
the
from
the
manual
that
we
had.
We
had
big
vast
window.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
put
it
up
when
those
windows.
L
L
E
L
E
L
E
Okay,
now
do
you
have
a
wall
detail
show
on
the
install
of
the
window
itself?
I
saw
I
mean.
Obviously
you
showed
us
the
solid
wall,
but
I
just
want
to
see
in
reference.
How
you're
looking
to
install
this
window?
Are
you
planning
to
do
it
flush
like
we
do
new
constructions,
typically
in
2023,
or
have
you
put
some
thought
into
recess
in
these
windows
back
into
the
wall?
Cavity.
E
E
L
It's
we,
we
showed
a
Vernier
brick,
that's
what
we
have.
E
L
L
We
use
we
plan
to
use
Hardy
same
boy.
E
L
Yes,
we
took
that
from
the
same
historic
manual
that
we
had.
L
L
J
D
There
we
go
if
you
move
that
up
yeah,
and
would
you
be
willing
to
coordinate
the
finish
and
the
style
of
the
doorknobs
and
Hardware
on
the
building?
With
this,
this
exterior
light.
L
I
must
say
that
I
myself
was
once
rewarded
for
doing
a
project
with
a
historic
home.
I
have
a
nice
big
certificate
on
my
wall
and
we
did
a
1925
building,
which
my
friend
had
to
do
like
a
bit
to
get
it,
and
one
of
the
things
that
they
they
said
was
helpful.
Is
that
I
told
him
that
my
grandmother's
house
in
Trinidad
was
exactly
like
that?
So.
A
L
Got
that
house
back
to
1925
down
to
the
light
switches,
so
I'm
kind
of
familiar
with
some
of
this
stuff.
That's
why
I
picked
that
light,
but
I
kind
of
oversized
the
door
handle
so
I
know
what
you're
looking
for?
Okay.
L
They're
vinyl
windows,
okay,
we're
gonna,
do
the,
but
we
the
plan,
is
to
do
the
trim
where
it
kind
of
hides
the
X
edges
on
the
exterior.
So
we
get
that
to
look
more
or
less
like
a
wood.
Look,
that's
why
I
was
trying
to
avoid
using
the
artificial.
B
Over
from
the
beginning,
can
we
go
back
to
your
site
plan?
Please.
B
Have
a
bit
more
okay,
so
I
want
to
start
from
the
beginning
of
your
presentation
about
the
site.
There
was
mention
of
a
36
inch
tree.
That's
on
the
property
just
to
the
south
in
the
west
Corner,
that's
correct!
B
L
B
I
would
assume
that
you're
still
in
in
design
mode
right,
you
haven't
gone
as
far
as
ready
to
go
to
the
permitting
office
at
this
time.
Correct
that.
B
So,
if
possible,
it
would
be.
B
It
would
be
probably
better
in
terms
not
just
in
terms
of
the
historic
precedent,
but
in
terms
of
the
use
of
this
property
for
whether
it's
your
personal
use
or
whomever
you
sell
the
property
to
giving
as
much
land
back
to
the
property
owner,
that's
actually
usable
for
them
being
able
to
slide
that
building
Southward
and
then
having
that
more
historic
alignment,
obviously,
is
something
that
we
as
a
board
would
look
favorably
upon
and
would
would
hope
that
we
could
get
in
projects
that
we
review,
especially
new
projects.
B
A
B
Well,
the
other
question
I
have
is
there
was
a
note
here
about
the
walkway.
It
looks
like
you
connected
the
front,
walkway
all
the
way
to
the
existing
sidewalk,
okay
and
then
the
ribbons
as
well.
There
is
a
grid
area
just
to
the
west
of
your.
Your
Port
could
share
for
the
primary
structure.
What
is
that.
L
That's
at
one
time
when
we
we
had,
we
were
kind
of
close
to
the
50
percent
previous
and
we
use
a
impervious
block
system
because
we
had
to
because
of
the
historic
we
will
advised
to
put
a
pad
behind
the
carport.
G
L
We
made
something
in
purpose,
so
it's
basically
a
kind
of
black
like
what
you
call
it
a
it's,
a
great
block,
I!
Guess
yes,
so
we
can
have
what.
B
Right
Fair,
so
I
understand
most
of
where
the
fencing
is
going
to
land.
Where
does
it
return
on
the
south
side
of
the
primary
structure,
or
does
it.
B
I
can
follow
the
fence
line
from
the
north
side,
to
the
you
know,
to
the
east
of
the
AC
unit
and
I
can
follow
it
along
the
north
perimeter
and
I
can
follow
it
between
the
primary
and
the
accessory
structure,
and
then
I
can
follow
it
all
the
way
down
to
the
South
lot
line
or
property
line,
but
I
don't
see
it.
Returning
back
to
the
primary
structure
on
the
south
side
of
the
primary
does,
it
is.
L
L
B
M
B
Okay
and
the
stairs
as
well,
and
then
can
we
look
at
your
elevations,
please
the
I'd
like
to
look
at
the
at
the
South
elevation
first
for
primary
and
accessory
structure
if
they're
on
the
same
sheet.
B
L
A
L
L
L
Is
it
made,
it
will
be
a
four
inch
post,
okay
and
thus,
but
build
out
with
the
same
trim
material
that
we're
going
to
use
for
the
trim.
G
B
L
B
B
B
I
want
to
talk
about
the
the
comment
about
the
two
foot
joist
spacing
from.
Is
that
truly-
and
this
is
for
Elaine
or
for
for
Ron.
B
B
B
So
I
I
do
agree
that
two
foot
overhangs
are
more
appropriate
for
the
primary.
Are
you
showing
two
foot
at
the
accessory
unit
as
well
for
the
overhang,
then
not.
L
At
this
time,
but
on
recommendations.
B
G
E
L
B
L
L
B
So
we
would
not
typically
see
carports
in
the
historic
district,
whether
or
not
it's
a
contributing
structure
or
not
it's
not
something
that
we
would
typically
see
in
a
design.
We
have
Port
cochairs,
which
are
like
a
fancy
carport,
but
they're,
always
at
the
primary
structure,
never
with
the
secondary
structure,
and
we
do
not
look
at.
We
do
not
put
carports
typically
into
the
historic
districts
just.
B
Sometimes
you
don't
have
any
garage
doors
right,
I.
A
G
B
Any
okay,
all
right,
all
righty.
That
is
it
for
me,
any
other
questions
for
the
applicant
either
the
owner
or
the
agent
speak
now.
I.
E
E
H
So,
as
Elaine
had
mentioned,
we
weren't
able
to
really
study
these
new
drawings
very
long
because
they
did
come
to
us
after
the
exhibit
due
date.
In
response
to
the
staff
report
and
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
bring
up
a
couple
issues
that
I
noticed
during
the
presentation
on
the
site
plan.
There's
a
lot
of
discussion
about
site
planning
is
very
important
in
this
historic
in
the
historic
district,
because
it
really
is
the
character
of
the
district,
and
so
these
questions
about
setback
and
the
orientation
of
different
buildings
is
very
important.
H
So,
on
the
point
that
the
staff
made
in
the
staff
report
pertaining
to
the
alignment
of
the
accessory
structure
with
the
portica
share,
I
just
want
to
emphasize
that
that's
a
I
believe
a
critical
factor
in
the
site
planning
the
new
construction,
and
if
the
building
is
not
in
the
accessory
dwelling
unit,
is
not
able
to
be
moved
to
the
South
Side,
then
perhaps
the
entire
primary
structure
could
be
flipped
so
that
the
portica
share
would
then
be
on
the
North
side
and
More
in
light
in
alignment
with
the
the
building-
and
this
is
the
this
is
a
you
know,
generally
the
effect
that
that
you
see
with
the
portica
share,
where
the
ribbons
run
through
the
portrait
share
and
lead
to
the
accessory
structure.
H
That
being
said,
I
think
that
the
the
fence,
rather
it's
five
foot
or
six
foot
that
essentially
divides
the
site,
is
somewhat
problematic
visually.
Although
zoning
might
allow
for
an
accessory
dwelling
unit,
the
district
strives
to
maintain
the
patterns
of
the
of
the
district.
So
having
that
visual
barrier
that
divides
the
site,
I
think
is
something
that
a
staff
has
not
normally
seen
very
often
and
and
doesn't
support.
So
you
you
can
have
discussion
on
that
related
to
the
overhangs.
H
We
see
two
foot
minimum
overhangs
on
most
of
the
projects
where
principal
structures
I,
think
going
to
accessory
structures.
18
inches
for
a
one-story
structure
is
sufficient,
but
it
certainly
can
be
a
character
defining
feature
related
to
the
windows.
Vinyl
windows
have
been
approved,
the
right
type
of
vinyl
window,
so
we,
the
staff,
would
need
to
see
what
type
of
what
the
manufacturer
of
the
vinyl
window
is
and
and
then
having
that
properly
stalled
installed,
whether
it's
a
one
over
one
or
if
it
has
the
the
mullions.
H
Also
on
the
porch,
there
had
been
some
changes
in
the
porch
design
since
the
original
submission,
but
normally
we
would
have
a
section
through
the
porch
that
would
kind
of
show
the
detailing
particularly
of
the
porch
and
the
lip
around
the
edge
of
the
porch
with
the
concrete,
so
that
detailing
I
think
is
critical.
For
you
know
the
concrete
porch
to
be
successful.
H
The
fenestration
pattern
obviously
is
very
important.
I
would
you
know,
discuss
the
fenestration
pattern
on
particularly
on
the
primary
structure
and
then
the
Garage
originally
came
in
with
you
know
we
were
using
the
term
carport
carports
aren't
allowed
in
the
district
portica
Shares
are
allowed,
so
carport
on
the
accessory
structure
was
something
that
we
had
said
was
inconsistent
Transportation
had
an
issue
of
a
technical
issue
with
it,
so
that
was
I.
Think
the
impetus
of
that
being
removed,
but
the
the
structure
remains
elevated
in
the
rear.
H
Now
it's
you're
stepping
up
into
it,
which
is
very
atypical
of
an
accessory
structure,
and
although,
once
again
the
use
for
accessory
dwelling
unit
is
allowed,
the
attributes
of
the
building
should
be
accessory,
structured,
so
I
would
take
a
look.
There's
a
you
know,
finished
foundation
around
it
right
now
with
the
stem
wall
and
that's
typically,
not
the
vocabulary
of
an
accessory
structure.
H
B
B
L
I,
just
I
just
have
one
comment,
as
mentioned
with
the
front
post,
with
the
wrap
around
I.
Actually
I,
don't
I
didn't
show
a
details,
but
that
the
intent
was
to
have
that
lip
go
all
the
way.
So
we
don't
just
have
a
concrete
floor
and
just
come
like
that.
We
intended
to
put
a
lip
there
as
far
as
the
accessory
building
being
a
stem
wall,
I
assumed
that
it
had
to
be
exactly
like
the
main
building.
So
that's
not
an
issue
for
us
if
we
have
to
but
drop
it
on
the
car.
L
Right
18
inches
above
the
street,
but
I'm
not
above
the
street.
So
what
happened
is
that
on
the
recommendation
for
the
historic
we
will
recommend,
we
were
told
that
we
had
to
be
elevated
from
the
front,
so
we
assumed
that
the
Adu
was
the
same
so
that
adjustment
we
can
make
not
for
the
house,
that's
for
the
80s
yeah
so
and
that's
it
just
the
just
to
let
you
know
that
we
intended
to
put
that
lip
on
the
front
of
the
porch
and
that's
all
my
time.
Thank.
B
You
all
right,
thank
you,
so
we
will
go
ahead
and
discuss
the
case,
starting
with
Mr
Sutton.
F
I
can
understand
the
the
nature
of
a
modest
dwelling
coming
into
this
vacant
site.
How,
however,
I'm,
having
a
difficulty
right
now
rectifying
what
we're
seeing
on
the
drawings
as
limited
as
they
are
near
detailing,
with
respect
to
the
context
that
this
building
is
being
proposed
for
and
the
the
Precedence
that
the
contributing
structures
have
within
the
immediate
vicinity,
not
The,
Knockout
Germany,
but
the
contributing
structures
and
what
may
be
borrowed
or
not,
borrowed
or
used,
or
not
used
from
that
mix
of
different
things.
C
C
N
C
One
is
really
is
the
basically
the
decision
to
move
the
accessory
structure
to
the
north,
rather
than
keeping
in
line
with
the
Portugal
shared
of
the
South
without
enough
I
think
investigation
into
the
the
viability
of
that
and
whether
it
can
be
done
and
what
the
issues
are
with
that
tree
and
with
those
roots-
and
you
know
it
just
it
just-
was
abandoned
and
not
really
studied
and
just
said.
Well,
we
prefer
to
move
it
North,
where
historically,
we
prefer
to
keep
it
to
the
South
or,
as
Dennis
said,
mirror
the
entire
structure.
C
It
yeah
I,
just
don't
think,
there's
been
enough
due
diligence,
especially
these
from
the
tree
and
the
root
and
the
drip
edge,
and
what
that
does
what
it
doesn't
do,
or
what?
What
how
to
deal
with
it
I
think
a
simple
flipping
of
the
house
would
the.
C
B
B
B
We
certainly
have
certain
items
that
we
can
say:
staff
can
work
with
and
and
coordinate
some
final
decisions
on,
but
when
it
comes
to
seeing
how
certain
things
are
installed
and
then
whether
or
not
the
depth
of
the
eaves
are
appropriate
and
there
is
enough
room
in
the
language
for
building
code
to
to
have
deeper
overhangs
I
mean
I've,
put
four
foot
and
five
foot
overhangs
in
so
in
Florida.
C
B
With
the
proper
ties
right,
I
mean
there
are
ways
to
do
it
and
understood.
There's
some
money
issues
there,
but
I
agree
that
there
are
some
big
factors
here
that
need
to
be
resolved
to
have
a
certain
level
of
comfort.
Yeah
like.
E
On
top
of
those
I
mean
we
didn't
really
get
into
a
lot
of
the
administration
location
in
different,
but
I
mean
I
feel
like
the
windows
may
could
have
a
little
better
layout
on
some
of
the
elevations.
There
may
be
some
some
opportunity
for
some
additional
the
fence
going
through
the
backyard.
That's
very
odd.
It.
E
You
know
there
are
a
list
of
things
and
sometimes
they're
a
long
list
that
we
give
to
staff,
but
I
feel
like
there
may
be
some
items
here
that
need
more
than
just
staff
approval.
They
actually
need
some.
Some
more
research
done.
I
would
have
loved
to
have
seen
some
actual
window
samples
door
samples.
You
know
not
just
pulled
from
cut.
E
E
The
other
thing
I
would
say
is
is
on
something
like
this
I
lean
on
the
knowledge
of
our
historian
here,
and
he
said
multiple
times
now.
You
know
has
some
concerns
with
it
actually
really
looking
and
being
a
part
of
this
community
this
this
street,
this
particular
area
of
Seminole
Heights-
and
this
is
an
entryway
to
this
historic
district.
E
If
this
vacant
lot
was
deeper
into
the
historic
district,
we
would
probably
have
more
examples
to
go
by
right
next
door,
but
because
there
isn't-
and
we
are
on
that
border-
we
somewhat
need
to
see
something
go
there.
That
truly
is
in
line
with,
what's
already
in
the
the
district
itself.
In
this
section
of
the
district,
not
just
Seminole
Heights
as
a
whole,
I
would
I
would
like
to
see
some
definitive
answers.
You
know
when
elevations
on
yeah.
C
C
Typically,
require
would
want
to
see
more
documentation
of
that.
And
what's
what
the
site
plan
looks
like
in
adjacent
houses
and
what
so
that
we
can
be
sure
that
it
fits.
E
C
E
C
E
C
And
I
think
that
needs
to
be
needs
to
be
resolved
before
we
can
say.
B
Even
if
even
if
imagery
was
presented
today
of
the
block
and
they
and
they
showed
us
the
elevation
and
they
showed
us
some
of
the
character
defining
features
that
they
were
attracted
to,
it
is
a
site
planning
issue
and
right.
M
M
So,
based
on
what
I
overheard
during
the
discussion,
we
would
like
to
see
if
we
can
get
a
continuance
and
come
again
before
the
Arc
for
to
represent
what
we're
doing
and
try
and
get
it
more
in
line
with
what
you're
hoping
to
see
on
that
property.
M
However,
I
I'm,
confident
in
my
mind,
that
what
we
are
proposing
to
do
in
that
section
with
what
is
on
that
street
and
across
from
the
school
is
only
an
enhancement
for
that
part
of
the
neighborhood
with
and
I
know.
Intent
is,
is
a
you
know
a
hard
word
to
to
wrap
into
detail,
but
our
intent
is
to
be
exactly
what
you
are
hoping
the
neighborhood
to
look
like.
M
B
H
A
K
K
K
The
addition
to
the
structure
and
the
particular
excuse
me
rack
that
will
be
connected
to
the
the
main
house
as
well.
The
Tampa
Heights
design
guidelines
regarding.
K
2809
North
Central
Avenue
is
located
centrally
and
the
Tampa
Heights
historic
district.
It's
shown
here
in
green
on
the
map.
The
red
outline
shows
the
local
Historic
District
boundaries
and
the
blue
outline
shows
the
National
Historic
District
boundaries.
K
K
This
is
the
historic
1920s
Sanborn
map
showing
the
location
of
the
property.
You
will
see
at
that
time.
The
property
actually
went
all
the
way
from
Michigan
Avenue
or
what's
called
Columbus
Drive
now
to
Robles
at
the
North
there.
K
K
You
can
point
you:
can
you
can
see
some
of
the
additions
and
construction
that
has
happened
in
the
rear
of
the
building?
That
was
not
original
to
the
the
house,
as
you
can
on
the
South's
elevation
as
well,
and
then
this
is
a
view
looking
at
the
rear
and
the
South
elevations.
K
And
an
additional
shot
of
the
rear
can
note
the
open
area
along
the
the
Second
Story
and
the
covering.
K
K
O
Good
afternoon,
good
evening,
everyone
thank
you
so
much
for
this
opportunity
to
get
in
front
of
you
and
talk
about
our
home.
My
name
is
Adam.
Fritz
I
am
the
co-owner.
With
my
wife
Taryn.
We
have
been
attempting
to
try
to
get
solar
on
our
home
since
2017..
O
O
More
energy
efficient
and
we've
done
that
over
the
years
anytime,
we've
had
an
opportunity
to
add
insulation,
we've
added
it.
We've
done
things
in
this
in
the
attic
and
kept
moving
those
pieces
down
the
road
attempting
to
do
the
solar,
because
we're
trying
to
find
that
definition
of
what
is
visible
from
the
street
I'm
just
going
to
show
you.
J
B
We
get
the
thing
switched
over
sorry
for.
C
O
So
this
is
a
a
home
couple
blocks
away
from
us.
It's
on
Columbus
Avenue,
it's
on
306,
Columbus,
sorry,
Columbus
Drive,
and
if
you
walk
along
the
street,
you
can
see
the
the
solar
panels
there.
If
you
get
a
little
closer,
the
solar
panels
are
in
that
shot.
Here's
another
image
of
them.
You
can
clearly
see
them
from
the
street
and
then
here's
another
shot,
put
them
on
the
street
and.
O
So
what
we
looked
at,
though,
if
you
look
at
from
the
front
elevation,
the
solar
panels
are
not
visible
from
the
front
elevation.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
establish
for
us
for
our
home
what
visible
from
the
street
means
there's
other
examples
that
we
have
of
solar
panels
that
are
on
that
front
of
elevation.
So
this
is
our
existing
site.
O
So
when
we
look
at
our
home,
we
have
a
very
long
South
Exposure
are
the
proportions
of
the
home.
Are
such
that
the
self-exposure
provides
a
tremendous
amount
of
heat
gain
on
all
this
purple.
That's
the
existing
home,
as
you
can
see
that,
as
you
all
know,
the
sun
rises
and
East
sets
in
the
west.
So
all
day
long,
we
have
plenty
of
opportunities
to
try
to
collect
that.
O
The
solar,
however,
we've
been
denied
in
the
past,
because
we've
had
stuff
on
the
side
of
the
house,
which
has
been
previously
looked
at
as
being
visible
from
the
street.
This
we
on
the
south
edge
of
our
property.
We
have
a
very
dense,
foliage
lots
of
landscape,
and
so
there's
many
different
ways
to
interpret
this.
But,
as
you
were
walking
along,
you
don't
really
get
to
see
this
elevation
until
further
down
the
road.
O
P
The
home
is
also
set
40
feet
back
from
the
street,
so
it's
not
right
up
against
the
street.
It
does
set
the
precedent
for
setbacks
in
these
blocks,
for
the
historic
district
along
Central
Avenue
here
and
through
a
number
of
iterations.
That
we've
been
through
we're
happy
to
answer,
questions
that
you
may
have
about
our
previous
experiences,
both
with
traditional
solar
panels
well
with,
as
well
as
solar
tiles.
We've
gone
that
route
too,
but
here
we
are
one
more
time.
O
So
the
massing
of
the
house,
the
has
changed
over
the
years,
but
the
main
massing
of
the
house
is
a
two-story
structure.
That
is
this
General
configuration
on
the
south
and
the
West
is
a
wraparound
porch
that
originally
came
around
and
wrapped
into
this
two-story
Mass
here
in
the
back
over
time.
This
was
infilled
and
it's
now
part
of
the
house
structure
itself.
O
So
what
we're
asking
to
do
is
to
continue
that
language
of
Contin
that
same
distance.
We
have
an
eight
foot,
wraparound
porch
that
comes
out
so
taking
that
plane
and
adding
an
addition,
that's
eight
foot
wide
that
comes
out
from
here
and
then
infilling
it
much
like
that
was
done
and
historically,
in
the
past,
this
one-story
addition
that
we'll
talk
about
when
it's
an
existing
Edition
and
we'll
show
you
some
images.
You
saw
some
images
of
it.
It's
a
very
poor
addition.
It
doesn't
contribute
anything
to
the
house.
O
In
fact,
it
is
the
bane
of
my
existence,
because
it's
20
degrees,
hotter
in
that
room
than
any
other
place
in
the
house.
It's
a
one-story
addition
that
has
no
insulation
in
the
roof
and
we're
constantly
trying
to
fight
how
to
combat
this.
We've
had
different
air
conditions
that
we've
added
over
the
years
to
try
to
alleviate
some
of
that
pain.
But
the
best
solution
for
us
is
to
try
to
rebuild
this
in
a
way
that
that
will
eliminate
that
addition
and
build
it
back
to
a
level
that
is
more
energy
efficient
for
us.
O
So
our
our
interpretation
of
viewed
from
the
street
is
that
we're
trying
to
keep
all
these
solar
collectors
that
we're
proposing
past
and
behind
the
edges
of
the
masses
of
the
front
elevation,
so
Central
Avenue,
is
over
on
this
side.
On
the
west
side,
this
is
our
South
elevation
and
so
we're
proposing
solar
panels
that
are
behind
all
of
the
masses
that
you
would
see
from
that
front.
Elevation
when
I
say
front
elevation
of
the
street
elevation.
O
The
addition
that
we're
proposing
the
configuration
of
that
addition
is
all
a
product
of
trying
to
maximize
the
efficiency
of
the
solar
and
collect
as
much
Sun
as
we
possibly
can,
without
with
with
only
being
limited
to
everything
behind
our
residence.
So
what
we're
proposing
is,
in
addition
here
with
some
solar
panels
on
the
second
level
roof,
and
then
this
new
addition
will
kind
of
walk
you
through
in
the
elevations
and
then
a
canopy
structure
that
continues
out
over
an
existing
deck
that
we
can
have
additional
solar
panels
again.
All
behind
that
front.
O
Yeah
this
is
a
elevation
front
elevation
of
our
home,
and
this
is
what
we're
proposing
for
the
front
elevation
of
the
home.
It's
not
aware
of
Waldo
thing,
they're
exactly
the
same,
we're
not
trying
to
seeing
anything
on
the
that
front
elevation.
There
is
a
line
here
that
I
just
drew
just
to
give
you
some
reference.
O
O
Okay,
this
is
this:
isn't
the
existing
South
elevation
right
now,
the
infill
that
the
wraparound
porch
comes
around
here
and
it
infills
this
one
little
area
and
then
the
existing
two-story
mass
is
here
and
then
we
have
that
one
story,
mass
that
I
can't
stand
here
in
the
back
of
our
home.
It's.
O
What
we're
proposing
is
is
adding
that
addition
in
front
of
this
plane,
but
keeping
it
the
same
distance
as
the
the
wraparound
Porsches
now
so
coming
eight
foot
out
from
that
plane.
So
then
taking
the
same
angles
here
the
slopes
and
we'll
show
you
and
then
going
up
with
this,
so
that
this
whole
plane
of
the
roof
will
have
a
southern
exposure
to
collect
as
much
solar
as
possible.
O
This
is
just
a
blow
up
of
this
area.
This
blue
line
indicates
the
front
Mass,
so
everything
that
you
see
here
all
the
solars
that
we're
proposing
is
all
behind
that
mass
of
that
front.
Elevation.
O
This
is
just
the
the
back
of
our
home
right
now.
Here
is
our
that
one
story:
Edition
that's
been
added
on
to
what
we're
proposing
to
do
is
take
that
same
slope
that
comes
up
to
that
is
for
the
wrap
around
ports.
Right
now
have
that
same
slope
come
up
and
then
continue
up
above
this
Edition
and
get
rid
of
it
by
covering
it
with
a
new
roof
that
we
can
then
use
for
the
solar
collectors.
O
This
is
the
one
story
addition
that's
existing
right
now
and
then
what
we're
proposing
is
that
that
same
angle,
you
see
for
the
existing
roof
line
for
a
wraparound
porch,
shifting
it
back
to
four
feet
so
from
there
to
there's
four
feet
coming
back
out
eight
feet
and
then
matching
all
of
the
detailing
coming
around
and
letting
this
one
plane
go
go
up
so
that
it
has
all
it
can
maximize
that
opportunity
for
the
Southern
Exposure
on
the
second
level
of
the
home
on
the
roof.
O
We
have
a
12
to
a
12
12
pitch
here,
so
we
would
be
proposing
putting
solar
panels
on
the
back
side
if
we
can
get
them
to
fit
it's
not
again,
not
visible
from
the
street
and
then
on
the
back
mass
of
the
the
back
mass
of
the
property
along
the
way.
O
This
is
existing
right
now,
except
they're.
Railing
has
fallen
off
of
this
area
here.
On
the
second
level
there,
this
the
house
has
a
history
of
sleeping
porches
that
have
been
infilled
over
time.
This
is
one
of
the
sleeping
porches
that
is
left
over
from
from
this,
and
so
what
we're
proposing
is
infilling
that
area,
removing
the
stairs.
O
That
really
is
not
good
for
having
teenagers
in
the
future
and
infilling
these
areas
here
and
then
also
in
filling
this
from
an
existing
back
porch
situation,
so
that
we
can
enclose
these
areas
so
they're
more
functional
for
the
home.
Unfortunately,
our
electric
panel
is
outside
of
the
house
and
it's
very
nerve-wracking
because
anyone
could
just
walk
up
and
just
turn
off
our
power,
and
so
by
being
able
to
enclose
these
areas,
we
can
have
that.
Allow
me
a
lot
more
secure
and
give
us
some
more
space.
O
Then
this
yellow
here
is
the
addition
that
we're
proposing.
We
have
that
some
Northern
Light
North
light
clear
story.
Windows
up
here
on
the
top.
There
would
be
fixed
windows,
and
then
you
can
see
that
the
rack
system
for
the
rest
of
the
solar
panels
coming
out
over
the
deck
on
this
is
the
existing
canopy
that
is
part
of
the
north
elevation.
That's
that
you're,
seeing
here
on
this
side,
to
adjust.
P
So
we
did
get
a.
There
was
a
comment
about
adding
potentially
adding
additional
windows
in
the
infill
of
the
Edition,
but
we
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
comment
on
that
up
front
to
say
that
we're
adding
the
clear
stories
to
add
additional
light.
The
additional
and
infill
components
also
have
sliding
glass
doors
for
additional
light.
O
Also
sure
of
Windows
that
aren't
termite
eaten.
Hopefully
that's
true
too.
This
is
just
a
blow
up
of
that
kind
of
new
elevation.
This
is
this:
is
the
the
wrapper
on
Port?
Are
they
sorry?
This
is
the
port
outside
second
level,
porches,
that
we
would
be
infilling,
and
then
this
is
the
existing
Edition
that
we
would
have
another
small
space,
We
Build
That
Wall
up
around
that
existing
Edition
to
remove
it.
O
This
is
just
an
overall
section.
This
is
the
back.
That's
cutting
through
this.
This
is
the
the
back
cutting
through
the
sliding
glass
door.
We're
proposing.
What
you
see
in
the
background
is
the
mass
from
viewed
from
the
front.
So
this
is
the
wraparound
porch
that's
coming
around,
and
this
is
the
infill
aspect,
and
then
this
is
the
new
edition
that
we're
proposing
coming
off
the
structure,
the
lines
all
the
intention
was
to
keep
all
the
roof
lines
to
match
up
and
allow
that
slope
to
continue
Along.
On
that
same
perspective,.
O
O
Blow
up
of
that
just
could
cut
through
the
sliding
glass
door.
The
addition
would
have
a
step
down
onto
a
porch
and
then
would
continue
to
step
down.
This
would
would
either
be
a
pier
or
a
stem
wall,
depending
on
where
the
enclosures
would
be.
One
of
the
comments
we
received
is
that
what
were
the
questions
about
the
enclosure
I
can
run
through
those
where
what
we
would
do
at
each
location
for
each
aspect
of
the
plan,
but
the
new
addition
would
have
a
stem
wall
that
would
be
solid
to
keep
things
out.
O
This
is
just
a
simple
rack
framing
plan
of
the
the
the
racks
that
would
be
extending
out
over
the
the
deck
from
the
new
exhition.
The
solar
panels
that
we're
proposing
are
would
be
this
particular
size.
O
We
would
match
the
framing
so
that
the
solar
panels
would
form
a
a
the
rack
system
in
a
just
a
roof,
but
it
would
not
be
Our.
Intention
would
just
allow
the
solar
panels
to
be
the
sun
shading
device
for
the
deck.
That's
below
it.
Two
main
columns
go
I'm,
sorry,
four
main
columns
going
up
and
then
two
main
beams
going
across,
and
this
would
just
be
a
post
and
beam
system
where
the
solar
racks
would
then
be
in
the
same
plane.
With
that
angle
of
the
addition.
O
We're
proposing
we're,
posing
a
sliding
glass
doors
and
and
or
French
doors
on,
and
we
can
show
you
where
those
are
in
the
addition
on
the
plan
we're
still
internally
fighting
about
which
ones
they're
going
to
be
two.
O
P
P
Having
a
house
that
was
originally
built
in
1873
is
one
of
The
Originals
fam
Robles
family
houses,
we've
taken
great
care
in
restoring
it
and
also
making
it
resilient
for
the
future,
including
open
cell
insulation
in
the
Attic
Roof
ties
in
the
attic
and
slowly
replacing
Windows
just
due
to
the
cost,
and
so
you
know
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we
have
elements
that
will
have
a
long
lifespan
is
something
that
we
have
come
to
see
as
being
really
important
and
seeing
that
it
also
fits
in
with
a
number
of
the
city's
current
planning
efforts,
including
its
resilience,
road
map,
the
greenhouse
gas
inventory
and
recommendations,
and
so
these
are
some
of
the
items
that
we're
trying
to
meet
as
we
go
through.
O
The
shaded
areas
are
the
additions
that
we're
proposing
that
existing
Edition
is
right
here
on
the
first
level.
This
would
right
now
we
have
moved
our
air
conditioning
units
so
that
they're
in
line
and
behind
and
screened
from
the
street,
so
we've
moved
slowly
started
moving
everything
that
was
over
on
this
side
over
to
this
side
and
then
made
it
more
in
line
with
the
the
requirements
of
Arc.
So
the
gray
Sparks
would
be
the
additions
for
the
first
level
and
then
on.
O
The
second
level
would
be
that
infill
of
that
the
porch
That's
there.
This
is
the
location
of
the
sliding
glass
door.
The
intention
is
for
it
to
be
opened
up
and
then
to
be
able
to
step
out
and
get
towards
the
pool
same
way
with
either
the
slider
or
the
French
door,
but
they
would
both
be
by
PGT
a
wind
guard,
an
impact
resistant
product
that
we
can
make
sure
that
they're
consistent
with
the
profile
of
the
windows.
P
O
K
Thank
you,
stock,
Finds,
Its
application
to
be
consistent
with
the
Tampa
Heights
design
guidelines
and
with
the
the
Secretary
of
the
Interior
standards
for
rehabilitation
and
guidelines
on
sustainability
for
rehabilitating
historic
buildings.
K
B
Thank
you,
Miss
Lund.
We
now
open
it
to
public
comment
and
if
you
do
have
comment,
please
do
come
forward
at
this
time.
Please
remember
to
state
your
name
spell
your
name
and
your
relationship
to
the
project.
Thank
you.
Oh
she
hasn't.
If
you
haven't
been
sworn
in
yet
we
have
to
get
you
sworn
in
sorry,
hello,.
O
N
So
Minecraft
hello,
my
name
is
Mary
McCann
I
live
across
the
street,
not
in
the
greenhouse
that
you
saw.
I
live
in
the
1903
another
one
of
the
wonderful
colonial
revival,
houses
and
I
am
here
to
support
this
project.
I'm
an
architectural
historian
and
I've
worked
with
oh
probably,
about
20
different
shippo
offices
on
interpreting
the
Secretary
of
interior
standards
to
get
them
to
do
the
right
thing
whenever
possible
and
yet
to
keep
properties,
I
work
primarily
with
houses
and
bridges
current.
This
is
a
wonderful
opportunity
and
I'm
pleased
to
support
it.
N
What
I
would
like
to
show
you
is
the
context
I.
We
were
worried
about
the
solar
panels
because
so
many
times
we've
been
down
and
they've
been
turned
down
in
the
Tampa
Heights
historic
districts
and
the
whole
visible
from
the
street.
But
here
I
have
the
top
picture.
You'll
see
I'm
walking
up
North
Central
Avenue
on
the
sidewalk
approaching
the
house,
and
that
is
what
you
see.
Adam
referred
to
the
wonderful
cover
from
the
vegetation
and
that's
exactly
what
it
is
here
is
the
house.
N
So
you
can
see
how
nicely
screened
it
is
as
I
proceed.
North
along
Central,
Avenue
I
come
to
the
South
West
corner
of
their
property,
and
this
is
what
you
see
now.
What
to
me
is
dream
about
this
project,
for
both
our
Edition
and
hiding.
The
solar
panels
is
that
the
work
is
recessed
behind.
You
have
the
advantage
of
a
projected
Pavilion
here.
This
originally
was
an
open
balcony.
N
The
house
faced
Columbus
Drive
and
then,
like
my
house
too,
the
wrapping
Veranda
was
enclosed,
so
you
have
this
room
existing
been
there
more
than
50
years,
has
value
in
its
own
right.
As
you
know,
that
will
be
the
another
screen
for
the
Edition
and
then
the
roof
will
be
extended.
This
is
such
a
win-win
situation
and
we're
thrilled
to
see
that
panels
can
finally
be
done
in
the
neighborhood.
N
I
was
interested
to
hear
that
the
legislation
now
seems
to
preempt
to
the
historic
district
guidelines
for
Tampa
Heights,
and
basically,
you
need
to
put
solar
panels
for
their
work,
and
it
appears
based
on
the
house
that
went
down
on
Columbus
Drive
that
pretty
much
the
solar
panels
are
going
to
go
on
where
they
need
to
be.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
I
hope,
you'll
approve
the
project
panels
and
rear
Edition.
Thank
you.
B
C
C
O
C
O
So
the
roof
itself
is
going
to
be
all
it's
going
to
match
existing
it's
going
to
be
black
I'm.
Looking
for
at
the
rack,
I
know,
I
got
to
tell
you:
I
got
to
get
there,
okay,
so
that
plane
in
that
angle,
from
on
on
attached
to
that
that
edge,
and
that
e,
that
soffit
patient
I
should
say
is
a
rack
system.
That's
just
off
the
framing
of
wood.
It's
painted
white
wood.
C
O
Columns
all
right,
the
members
would
be
spaced
for
the
the
solar
panels.
C
J
A
C
C
P
O
P
C
C
Good,
your
phone
just
turned
off,
but
that
is
that
is
existing
I
guess
the
porch
looks
like
you
know:
historic
Fabric
and
exposed
rafters
and
columns
and
beams
and
yeah.
O
C
It
well
that's
pretty
common,
that's
a
that's!
A
common
thing
to
do
when
you
get
to
a
porch
is
to
is
to
change
the
angle.
The
lower
porches
change,
the
angle
of
the
roof
too
so
I
mean
that's.
That's
a
common
porch
but,
like
I,
said
it's
original
or
historic
fabric,
I,
won't,
say
original
historic
fabric,
it's
historic
fabric.
C
P
J
A
P
C
That
could
that
that's
very
commonly
done
too,
as
an
addition
is
put
on
you
know,
later
years,
they
just
use
a
different
vocabulary.
In
fact,
we
encourage
that
you
know
that
that's
actually
desirable.
So
you
can
see
this
was
original.
This
was
added
on
later.
This
was
added
on
later
I've
seen
houses
that
have
four
different
editions
and
they
had
four
different
vocabularies
of
that
kind
of
thing.
P
C
I
C
Yeah
all
right,
those
are
really
my
my
main
concerns
no
and
I'm.
You
know:
I'm
I
have
no
more
questions
right
now.
Let's
just
put
that
way,.
D
Do
you
have
an
approximate
date
on
this
on
the
on
the
the
hated
kitchen
in
terms
of
you?
Have
this
kitchen
at
the
back
with
a
flat
roof
right,
yes,
yeah
and
and
no
insulation,
and
do
you
have
any
idea
approximately
when
that
was
built.
O
We
have
a
pretty
good
idea
based
on
the
decor
when
we
moved
in
I
think
it's
pretty
solidly
in
the
early
80s
and
late
70s.
A
D
O
The
intention
is
to
the
intention
is:
we
could
put
another
roof
on
of
that
area.
We
could
try
to
redo
it
and
bring
it
all,
but
we're
really
also
trying
to
design
it
so
that
it's
it's
solving
two
problems.
One.
D
Seems
not
entirely
unreasonable
and
we
do
not
permit
here.
So,
yes,
we're
we're
really
looking
at
other
things.
D
O
D
And
the
situation
with
it
so
on
the
former
sleeping
porch,
which
is
between
1906
and
1920.,
there
is
now
a
there's,
a
shower
up
there
right
yeah
and
there
are
some
Plexiglas
Windows
yes
and
does
what
about
the
the
this,
the
siding
in
that
area?
What
is
that
it's.
O
All
it's
all
Woodside,
all
the
siding.
90
of
it
is
all
the
same
profile.
The
the
Edition
has
some
different
language
to
it,
but
it's
it's
got
the
same
width.
E
A
O
Have
to
enclose
that
somehow
it's
either
going
to
be
peer,
construction
with
or
or
it's
going
to
be,
a
stem
wall
that
we're
going
to
build
up
from
the.
O
So
that
that
infill
it
it's
all
pretty
much
existing,
it
would
be
just
infilling
the
frame
here
for
the
small
addition
first
level,
but
this
is
this
is
pure
right
now
for
the
existing
Edition.
When
we
come
back,
we
can
make
this
pier
or
we
could
make
it
a
stem
wall
depending
on
what
we're
trying
to
do.
It's
all
underneath
the
deck
right
now
we
have
a
lot
of
rodent
issues
so
trying
to
enclose
those
areas
as
best
as
we
can.
A
O
E
So
while
you
have
this,
this
is
going
back
to
Mr
Mars
question
the
walls
that
I'm
seeing
here
on
the
perimeter
of
the
existing
addition
you're
proposing
to
tear
those
down
and
rebuild
yes.
O
P
E
E
E
J
B
G
B
P
O
There's
like
a
short
Palm
Elaine,
has
the
the
site
plan.
Has
the
aerial
the.
P
O
That
is
walking
along
Central.
This
is,
if
you,
if
you
could
go
further
away
from
the
residence
you
can
see.
That's
the
the
foliage
there
and.
N
O
O
A
A
O
Landscape
Edge,
it
is
a
mismatched
collection
of
oak
trees,
palm
trees,
lots
of
Bougainvillea
and
a
mixture
of
other
things,
and
it
ranges
in
height
from
20
feet
to
10
feet
in
some
areas
and
in.
P
The
clear
stories
were
our
solution
to
including
some
additional
windows
on
on
that
facade,
I
mean
there's,
there's
a
lot
of
Windows
already
on
that
facade
of
the
house
in
every
facade
of
the
house,
so
I
I
mean
that
was
part
of
it
and
we
don't.
You
know
the
part
of
that
closet.
We're
hoping
will
also
be
a
laundry
room
because
we
don't
currently
have
one
washer
and
dryer.
It's
actually
in
one
of
the
bedroom
closets
right
now.
P
E
P
I
think
so
we
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
one
we
were
respectful
of
the
architecture,
that's
there,
but
also
not
mimicking
or
trying
to
make
it
look
like.
It
was
part
of
the
historic
house,
since
it
is
an
addition
and,
and
it's
a
delicate
kind
of
balance
and
I-
think
that,
in
terms
of
our
design
philosophy
about
that,
that's
really
how
we've
always
approached
historic
preservation.
P
We've
both
worked
with
historic
preservation
firms
for
a
long
time.
So
you
know
that
was
just
the
philosophy
that
we
took
in
terms
of
design.
Iterations
there's
been
many,
but
this
is
really
the
one
I
think
we
feel
like
accomplishes
everything
as
much
as
we
can
especially
being
able
to
address
the
solar
panel
issue,
because,
ultimately
that
was
the
issue
that
we
started
with.
You
know
we
were
here
in
2017.
P
We
couldn't
make
it
happen,
then,
and
you
know
so,
we
went
the
route
of
Contracting
for
a
complete
solar
roof
turns
out
some
companies,
don't
know
how
to
work
with
historic
structures.
P
These
have
all
been
really
long
processes
that
we've
gone
through,
that
we've
gone
through
with
the
city
that
we've
gone
through,
with
permitting
that
we've
gone
through
with
Arc
multiple
times,
and
so
this
was
our
best
attempt
at
being
able
to
accomplish
all
of
these
things,
but
especially
ensuring
that
we
could
finally
achieve
having
solar
panels
on
the
home.
Okay,.
O
F
If
you
want
to
say
this,
the
front
mass
of
this
house
is
remarkable:
it's
it's
still
standing
after
all
these
years
and
when
you
start
moving
back,
that's
when
you
get
all
your
little
foibles
and
problems,
things
have
changed
over
time
that
we
don't
know,
like
the
that
part
of
the
wraparound
Porsche
take
out
infield,
that
sleeping
porch.
On
the
second
floor,
with
a
stair
I
suspect
at
one
time
the
stair
was
never
there
and
then
it
was
probably
provided
as
an
access
for
a
a
border.
F
They
took
the
back
half
of
the
second
floor.
This
is
the
you
know,
the
Border
rental
sort
of
thing
separate
entrance,
so
that
made
all
that
change
and,
of
course,
your
beloved
kitchen.
You
know
these
bits
and
pieces
come
through.
You
are
proposing
an
envelope.
It's
gonna
basically
solve
all
these
sins.
O
O
F
Because
that
would
be
very
interesting
to
take
a
look
at
see
how
how
these
pieces
match
I
will
not
necessarily
match,
but
dovetail
into
what's
what's
existing,
because
what
you're
proposing
is
something
entirely
different
from
the
main
body
of
the
house,
which,
with
my
commissioner
prokof
would
agree,
is
a
marvelous
example
of
something
similar,
but
yet
distinctly
different
from
the
old
from
the
new
I.
Think
that.
F
F
F
O
F
Know,
well,
that's
that's
the
next
item
I
want
to
talk
about
what
kind
is
is,
are
we
looking
here
at
the
details
for
your
new
deck
work,
yeah.
P
O
Dick
as
the
Finish.
F
P
P
Have
a
copy
of
the
Robles
will?
Oh.
P
P
P
O
P
G
F
F
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
had
anything
like
that
here.
We.
P
Found
old
checks
we
found
there's
been
a
lot
of
old
stuff
up
there.
There
haven't
been
a
lot
of
photographs
of
the
house.
We've
had
people
who
previously
lived
in
it
stopped
by
and
talked.
O
P
F
I
can
see
that
just
the
general
point
of
reference
for
us,
you
look
at
the
front
of
the
house.
It
has
a
certain
box
Mass
to
it
and
that
porch
wraps
around
and
it
almost
completes
the
Box
map
at
that
point,
that
two-story
Mass.
F
Do
you
consider
everything
on
the
other
side
of
that
line
to
be
at
some
point
part
of
the
fabric,
not
part
of
the
fabric?
How
are
you
approaching
that
philosophically.
A
P
H
P
Know
you
have
all
those
issues,
so
we
want
to
be
able
to
bridge
it
cleanly
so
that
we
can
protect
the
historic
structure
better
than
what
it
is
right
now,
but
we
do
see
a
bit
of
a
delineation
in
terms
of
the
historic
portion
moving
into
a
more
contemporary
element
of
the
house,
especially
as
it
you
know
opens
up
and
has
that
language
opening
up
toward
the
the
outdoor
use
areas.
F
B
P
B
So
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong,
this
is
from
the
1929
Sanborn
Elaine.
B
In
looking
at
this,
this
has
a
cruciform
or
crucifix
shape
to
the
mass
and
then
an
addition
potentially
on
the
rear.
So
I
just
wanted
to
look
at
that,
because
the
notion
that
it's
a
box,
it
is
not
a
box,
it
is
a
box
with
appendages
and
then
an
extension.
So
it's
it's
more
or
less
of
the
greater
mass
that
we
see
today.
Most
of
that
is
original
and
intact,
and
that
goes
to
some
of
the
questions
that
have
been
put
forth
so
far
tonight.
B
So
going
back
to
your
presentation,
Adam
and
Taryn,
if
we
could
switch
them
back
I'm.
Sorry,
thank
you.
B
Okay,
I
wanted
to
understand.
O
Pay
no
attention
to
this.
It's
just
yeah.
O
B
Actually,
if
you
put
next
to
this,
if
you
could
just
slide
it
over
to
the
left
on
your
on
your
thing,
the
elevation
for
the
for
the
rear.
So
that's
what
the
east
side!
If
you
could
put
that
up
and
maybe
fold
the
papers
like,
we
can
actually
see
of
the
of
the.
B
B
That
push
it
back
just
a
little
bit.
Okay,
so
and
pull
it
up
just
a
little
bit
the
elevation
sheet,
because
my.
B
To
the
placement
of
the
new
edition
and
I
have
no
issue
with
your
shed
roof
for
your
son,
your
solar
panels.
What
I'm
not
getting
is
it
looks
like
the
North
Face
of
the
New.
Edition
comes
goes
northward
about
another
two
and
a
half
three
feet
in
this
elevation,
but
on
your
roof
plan
it
doesn't
seem
to
go
that
far
am
I
missing
something
here.
B
P
B
P
O
B
G
B
C
B
P
B
G
G
G
A
B
O
B
Okay
answer
that
question.
B
So
for
the
wall,
materials
did
I
understand
that
you
are
matching
existing,
citing
trim
roof
everything's
going
to
match
the
existing.
O
B
Okay,
was
there
an
intent
to
put
any
kind
of
divider
board
I,
don't
remember
seeing
that
in
the
elevations
yeah.
B
I
mean
where
the
existing
and
the
addition.
So
if
you
go
back
to
the
elevation,
the
South
elevation
I
think
it
was.
B
P
All
current
Corners,
whether
they're
inside
or
outside,
have
white
trim
boards.
G
G
B
P
P
O
It's
the
same
PGT
language,
okay,.
P
So
all
windows
right
now
are
trimmed
they're,
they're,
all
white
and
trimmed
in
white,
and
all
of
our
doors
are
black,
trimmed
and
white.
Okay,.
O
A
D
Apples
I
would
just
like
to
ask
a
question
about
the
house
that
you
did
show
us
that
had
these
solar
panels
on
it
and
I
believe
that
you
made
the
statement
that
it
is
a
non-contributing
house.
D
Construction,
this
is
just
to
clarify
for
anyone
who
happens
to
be
watching
or
paying
any
kind
of
attention
that
your
particular
case
does
not
Grant.
Anybody
you
know,
does
not
allow
solar
panels
to
be
put
willingly
throughout
the
district
that
this
house
has
some.
What
I
consider
to
be
unfortunate,
looking
solar
panels,
but
it
is
a
non-contry,
it's
new
construction
and
it's
non-contributing
right.
So
it's
not
a
you
know.
D
B
D
D
C
Good
question
no
I'm,
just
I
guess
I
did
want
you,
I
mean
you've,
given
us
a
pretty
nice
presentation.
Thank
you.
The.
C
And
you're
well
aware
of
matching
versus
not
matching
exact
profiles
of
Hardie
board
versus
what
was
the
original
wood
and
it
might
be
beneficial
you're
aware
of
that
correct
that
it
might
be
beneficial
to
change
the
the
exposure
on
the
new
addition
and
the
Hardy
Board
to
distinguish
that
material
from
the
original
yes,
I
I
knew
you
would
I
knew
that
that
was
your
answer.
Yes,
I
have
no
other
I.
G
O
Yes,
we've
considered
a
lot
of
materials
and
they
didn't
seemed
like
they
would
be
go
through
the
sport.
So.
O
P
G
F
Do
have
one
last
question
and
it
is
a
material
question.
I
I
understand
solar
panels,
but
what
is
the
roof
underneath
it?
It's.
F
O
It
is,
there
are
some
solar
panels
that
benefit
they
benefit
from
both
sides,
and
in
that
case
a
metal
roof
is,
is
much
better
because
then
you're
getting
additional
solar
collecting
from
the
underside
of
the
roof
as
well,
but
we're
we're
keeping
it
simple
and
letting
the
roof
just
continue
on
and.
F
That
shingle
roof
is
basically
going
to
be
substantially
matching
the
roof
on
your
on
your
roof.
O
H
There's
Fernandez
Architects
review
and
historic
preservation,
manager,
I,
don't
recall
the
exact
date,
but
just
as
as
a
procedure,
we
review
the
installation
of
solar
panels,
there's
State
legislation
that
requires
that
we
accommodate
the
placement
of
solar
panels,
regardless
of
the
contributor
non-contributing
status
of
of
a
building.
So
our
first
attempt
is
to
try
to
place
them
towards
the
rear
in
an
area.
That's
not
visible,
at
least
from
the
front
of
the
structure.
H
It's
a
very
difficult
task
to
try
to
get
them
to
be
not
visible
from
a
street
in
our
type
of
urban
areas
that
we're
looking
at
in
these
neighborhoods.
We
attempt
to
place
them
on
Accessory
buildings,
if
that's
an
option,
and
particularly
if
they're
non-contributing
accessory
buildings,
but
we
have
been
approving
them
on
both
contributing
and
non-contributing
structures
in
areas
that
we
can
accommodate
the
the
the
necessary
exposure
in
the
most
minimal
way
to
accommodate
the
legislation.
A
C
O
O
B
Seeing
no
one
else
with
a
question:
you
do
have
five
minutes
from
rebuttal.
Anything
you'd
like
to
add.
Please
come
up
and
let
us
know
yes
or
no.
If
you
want
to
use
your
five
minutes.
O
Thank
you
very
much
for
hearing
us.
We
appreciate
it
and
I
really
appreciate
the
conversation
with
everyone
up
here.
B
B
I
mean
that's
the
gift
of
Sanborns
is
that
they
can
sort
of
indicate
that
there
were
certain
things
in
place.
We
can
never
be
certain,
so
my
biggest
concern
right
now
is
not
solar
panels.
I
think
you
guys
have
done
a
great
job
of
executing
and
trying
to
figure
out
the
right
way
to
do
it.
B
B
It's
it's
a
it's
a
small
feature,
but
it
is
still
a
feature.
I
think
it
is
a
defining
feature.
It
can
still
be
seen
from
the
street
and
the
fact
that
it
was
open
air
is
a
historic
element.
B
F
I
assure
some
of
that
concern
and
I
I
turn.
I
turned
that
around
as
well
and
I've
I
actually
find
that
the
proposal
is
to
be
actually
quite
a
very
clever
collection
of
bits
and
pieces
to
solve
a
vexing
problem.
A
number
of
vexing
problems
for
the
for
the
for
the
homeowner
and
I
kind
of
feel,
for
you
know
that
that
give
and
take
you
we
have.
We
have
a
beat
up
sleeping
porch
versus
a
new
addition
what's
happening
here,
but
I'm
still
taken
with
the
proposal.
I
really
am
and.
C
The
cloud
of
the
closet
and
you
left
it
in
place
right.
You
know,
if
that's
possible,
we
don't
do
you
know
once
you,
we
establish
an
exterior
wall,
we
don't
deal
with
the
interior
walls,
so
to
speak,
but
what
what
I?
One
thing
that
that
did
concerned
me
throughout
the
whole
presentation
is:
is
the
general
rule
of
anything
that
you
add
to
an
historic
property
it'd
be
done
in
such
a
way
that
you
can
remove
it.
G
D
B
I
get
wanting
to
you,
know,
learning
or
having
to
navigate
historic
properties
and
live
in
modern
times
and
live
in
such
a
way
that
it's
comfortable.
Unfortunately,
you
know
bathroom
was
added
in
a
very
inconsistent
manner
which
did
change
the
exterior
envelope.
Unfortunately,
I,
don't
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
how
to
negotiate
this
one
simple
thing,
the
rest
of
the
the
rest
of
the
project,
I
find
is,
is
right
on
track
and
I
feel
like
it's
a
it's
a
great
addition
to
the
history
of
this
home.
E
F
E
Again,
it's
it's
2023
and
they're
being
pushed
really
hard
on
us
in
the
industry
that
is
but
the
design.
Just
even
for
me.
You
know
somebody
that
normally
builds
things
something's,
just
not
or
some
things
are
not
working
together.
I
feel
like
there's
some
things
kind
of
fighting
each
other
back
there.
E
The
roof
line
pulling
back
is
definitely
going
to
help
because
to
me,
I
feel
like
I'm
looking
and
I'll
use
this
as
an
example,
because
I've
been
looking
at
a
lot
of
homes
recently
in
Carrollwood,
but
I
feel
like
I'm,
looking
at
a
lot
of
those
style
homes
from
the
rear,
but
from
the
front
I'm,
seeing
what
we
would
typically
find
in
1870.,
and
so.
E
They've
definitely
nailed
the
differentiation
yep,
but
then
part
of
it
seems
to
be
fighting
and-
and
maybe
it
is
the
enclosure
of
the
sleeping,
porch
and
and
that's
part
of
it.
I
do
have
my
own
issues
with
not
knowing
that
that
kitchen
area
I
mean
I,
get
the
Utility
side
and
the
insulation,
and
but
losing
that
the
Sanborn.
It
doesn't
look
to
line
up,
but
the.
E
B
The
sleeping
porch
there
is
another
window,
they
took
out
it's
on
the
south
elevation,
it's
that's,
they
infilled
it
rather
than
put
another
window.
A
B
J
C
Be
honest,
I
mean
I
know
this
is
one
of
the
the
oldest
houses
you
know
in
the
in
the
district,
if
not
the
oldest
and
it's
significant
and
it's
in
wonderful
condition
and
I
think
it's
currently
got
some
great
owners
and
I
think
it's
I
think
what
they're
attempting
to
do
and
they've
pushed
it
back
to
the
rear
of
the
building.
They've
recessed
it
from
the
structure.
You
know
from
the
from
the
main
volume
of
the
house.
The
sleeping
porch
is
a
little
troublesome.
B
C
Spindles,
but
that
doesn't
I
mean
beat
up
beat
up,
is
not
a
really
good
term,
but
it's
been
altered.
I
think
the
one
window
that
was
facing
north
it
was
was,
is
not
an
original
window.
This
shower
that
projects
in
is
not
original.
We
never
saw
a
photograph
of
the
stairs.
We
probably
could
have
figured
out
how
old
they
were
I'm
going.
B
B
Is
there
a
defining
line
where
you
can
fix
and
say
this
is
existing
and
then
I'm
allowed
to
build
Beyond
this
and
that
there
was
this
distinct
line
that
one
could
move
from
the
historic
to
the
Contemporary
and
allow
it
allow
it
to
be
that
I
I
personally
feel
like
in
this
specific
case.
The
material
is
wrong.
B
The
materials
are
wrong.
The
language
is
all
very
contemporary
language
and
if
you're
going
to
go,
there
then
go
there.
We
have
these
discussions
all
the
time
and
there
are
very
rare
instances
where
I
feel
like
it's
moving
in
that
direction,
but
this
is
one
of
those
and
other
than
the
sleeping
porch,
which
I
am
still
going
to
hold
too
I
feel
like
the
materials
are
wrong
choices.
A
E
B
You
yourself
are
having
if
it's
going
to
be
different,
let
it
be
different
and
then
you
own
it,
and
that
means
what
your,
what
your
doors
look
like,
what
your
windows
look
like
you
know,
all
your
fenestrations
have
a
language
that
says:
I
am
different.
We
belong
to
this
era.
You
can
take
us
away
and
not
diminish
the
historic
components,
and
just
let
it
be
because
it's
it's
it's
really,
in
my
mind
from
an
architectural
perspective,
is
really
distorting.
C
B
B
C
C
Okay,
yeah
I
can.
D
I
would
also
like
to
weigh
in
on
the
issue
about
the
sleeping
porch.
We
have
some
deteriorated
fabric
right.
D
Have
some
we
have
some
deteriorated
fabric
that
would
need
to
be
replaced
or
repaired,
and
certain
certain
portions
of
that
fabric,
maybe
salvageable,
to
reuse
at
a
future
date
if
they
wish
to
we'll
return
it
back
to
that
historical
Condit.
To
that
historical
confirmation
right?
F
E
But
unfortunately,
they're
saying
you
know,
there's
some
other
portions
of
this
that
aren't
being
saved
because
the
wall
is
now
taking
place
of
the
railing
and
some
other
things
I
mean
to
me,
because
of-
and
this
has
nothing
to
do
with
this-
but
I
mean
what
I'm,
when
I
start
thinking
about
this
and
what
this
is
becoming.
I
start
thinking
even
like
you
know,
structural
reports
and
what's
going
to
be
housed
here,
and
it
was
importance,
there's
really
no
weight
there.
So
was
it
designed
for
this
and
is.
E
B
A
B
B
Match
well
it
will.
It
will
change
it
because
right
now,
it's
you
know,
remember
the
crucifix
form
you
fill
that
in
this
part
of
the
this
part
of
the
northern
part
of
the
crucifix
is
gone
correct
and
then
the
other
thing
once
and
you
kind
of
hand
it
at
it
before
once
we
allow
the
exterior
wall
building
envelope
to
move
out,
they
can
change
anything
within
that.
So
all
those
interior
features
and
one
of
you
either
Mr
crocod
for
Mr
Taylor
stated
it.
B
E
E
Wood
framing
on
on
a
pure
system
that
with
Ledger
boards-
yes,
that's
simple,
so
yeah
believe
me.
J
E
E
Yeah
I
mean
it
you
could
you
go
past
these
solar
fields?
You
know
and
I
envisioned
that
just
for
three
walls
and
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
but.
H
Good
evening,
Commissioners,
in
speaking
with
the
applicants,
they
do
have
some
time
constraints
with
some
of
the
solar
materials
they're
requesting
and
I
think
it
can
be
accommodated
somewhat
of
a
partial
approval
that
would
approve
the
the
solar
and
concept
and
placement
and
then
they
would
come
back
continuing
the
remainder
of
the
case
to
deal
with
the
exterior
cladding
material
of
the
additions
and
the
sleeping
porch.
H
B
B
E
C
Q
F
B
F
I
moved
that
all
all
files
submitted
documents
and
Exhibits
provided
in
this
evening's
hearings
be
received
by
staff
profile.
G
That
doesn't
good.
H
Evening,
Commissioners
Dennis
Fernandez
architecture,
review
and
historic
preservation
manager
in
accordance
with
your
rules
of
procedure.
It
is
time
for
the
annual
election
of
officers.
We
normally
handle
that
beginning
first
with
a
nomination
for
the
chairperson
and
then,
if
we
receive
the
nomination,
I'll
ask
if
that
individual
agrees
to
serve
in
that
capacity
for
the
next
year
and
if
they
do
we'll
take
other
nominations
in
the
same
fashion
and
then
a
vote
with
the
majority
individual
holding
that
position.
H
H
H
You
congratulations.
Thank
you
and
the
next
nomination
that
we'll
be
seeking
is
for
the
vice
chairperson.
Do
we
have
any
nominations
for
the
vice
chairperson,
I.