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I'd
like
to
call
to
order
today,
Wednesday
May
3rd
2023,
public
hearing
for
the
city
of
Tampa's,
Architectural,
Review,
Commission
I
am
Susan
klausmith
I
am
the
chair
of
the
commission
and
I
am
an
architect.
If
you
are
here
to
present
a
project,
you
will
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentation,
so
we
suggest
being
thorobic
concise
when
coming
to
the
microphone.
You
will
need
to
identify
yourself
in
your
relationship
to
the
project.
C
The
staff
will
then
present
the
staff
report,
and
we
will
then
ask
for
public
comment
following
your
presentation.
The
Commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
your
presentation
when
coming
to
the
microphone.
Please
State
and
spell
your
name.
Clearly,
if
you
are
here
to
speak
for
or
against
a
project,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
So
take
some
time
now.
To
summarize
your
comments,
because
three
minutes
goes
by
very
quickly
following
the
public
comment,
the
applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal
and
then
the
public
hearing
will
be
closed.
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The
Arc
can
only
act
on
items
that
are
within
our
specific
jurisdictional
responsibility.
All
owner
and
or
agents
are
independently
responsible
to
obtain
any
appropriate
permits
and
or
approvals.
Now,
if
you
haven't
already
done
so,
please
do
turn
off
your
phones
or
silence.
Your
phones
and
I'll
ask
my
fellow
Commissioners
to
introduce
themselves
starting
on
my
left.
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Good
afternoon,
Commissioners
ronville
I'm
staff
with
historic
preservation
before
we
go
to
continuations
I
do
have
one
announcements,
that's
not
reflected
on
the
agenda,
but
the
staff
approvals
for
April
2023
are
in
your
packets.
They
will
be
submitted
to
the
clerk
and
put
into
the
record.
We
could
do
a
a
motion
to
receive
a
file
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
for
everything
that
is
submitted
this
evening
under
continuations,
we
have
one
that's
reflected,
which
is
Arc
23-122
for
the
address
of
1802
West
ChatOn.
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J
Thank
you.
We're
ready
for
the
first
case
this
evening,
which
is
Arc
23-76.
This
is
for
the
address
of
609
South
Willow
Avenue.
This
is
in
the
Hyde
Park
historic
district.
The
primary
structure
is
a
contributing
structure
that
dates
back
to
1923.
The
zoning
attached
to
this
parcel
is
rs50.
The
request
is
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
an
addition
to
the
primary
structure
for
a
new,
a
detached
accessory
structure
which
will
be
750
square
foot
that
is
allowed
by
the
zoning
classification
for
the
maximum
to
meet
accessory
structure
setbacks
with
site
improvements.
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J
Looking
at
the
two-story
Craftsman
style
home,
you
see
the
the
piers
that
are
here
little
atypical
of
of
the
the
peers
and
the
the
Massena
of
the
piers.
The
structure,
the
primary
structure
is
encapsulated
with
vinyl
siding
also
the
overhangs
are
have
been
boxed
in.
So
a
lot
of
the
details
have
been
covered
up
over
time,
but
this
is
the
front
elevation
as
it
faces.
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Moving
back
to
the
subject
site,
you
have
the
primary
structure
and
then
the
engaged
portica
share.
That's
Midway
through
the
body
of
the
building.
Here
you
can
see
the
retaining
wall
and,
as
you
go
up
that
lap
siding
is,
is
vinyl,
siding
so
and
then
you
see
the
overhangs
that
they're
boxed
in
you
can't
see
the
rafter
tails
and
the
and
the
brackets
have
been
encapsulated
as
well.
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That
shed
roof
will
be
coming
off.
As
part
of
this
request,
the
upper
windows
will
remain
and
the
Gable
will
remain.
The
stairs
will
be
eliminated
as
well.
To
give
you
some
context,
this
is
just
another
perspective
and
then
to
conclude
the
condition
of
the
alley
in
both
directions.
So
it
is
a
used
alley.
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So
my
project
is
very
similar
to
one
of
the
products
y'all
approved
last
month
for
a
a
detached
structure.
So
there's
two
elements
to
my
project.
First,
there
is
a
lanai
addition
to
the
back
of
the
property
which
existing
structure,
which
is
227
square
feet
and
we're
proposing
a
detached
accessory
structure
which
totals
750
square
feet,
375
square
feet
of
it
in
the
garage
in
the
first
floor.
Second
floor
would
be
a
375
square
foot
bonus
room.
M
We
want
to
thank
Ron
so
much
for
all
his.
He
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
effort,
helping
us
put
this
plan
together.
The
plan
was
reviewed
by
the
historic,
his
society
and
transportation
and
ground
storage
and
all
of
them.
My
plans
satisfy
all
the
codes.
There's
no
variances
and
they
didn't
have
any
objections
to
the
revised
plans.
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M
The
there
will
be
wood
beams
attached
to
the
piers
covered
by
Hardy
Ward,
the
roof
will
be
have
exposed
rafters,
it
will
have
16
inches
between
the
rafters
and
then
the
overhang
is
going
to
be
two
inches
to
match
the
existing
house.
M
So
currently,
when
I
bought
the
house
in
2010,
there
was
a
dilapidated
shed
in
the
backyard
which
I'm
hoping
to
get
rid
of
once
I
will
get
rid
of
it
once
we
get
this
started.
So
this
is
this
front
elevation
as
you
look
through
the
porticosure,
so
it
maintains
the
historical
elements
of
driving
the
vehicle
through
the
portica
sure
and
into
the
detached
structure
to
enhance
that
we're
adding
ribbons
to
to
the
yard.
For
that
process.
M
This
these
are
the
elevations
for
the
proposed
accessory
structure.
This
is
the
view
from
the
front
yard,
so
single
car
garage
door
upstairs
with
matching
windows
stairs.
M
M
The
first
floor
structure
will
be
CME
CMU
wall
and
then
the
garage
and
the
doors
will
be
wood
with
Windows.
The
section
structure
secondary
the
second
story
of
the
structure
will
be
2x4.
Exterior
wood
frame
covered
and
then
the
both
the
up
stay.
The
whole
structure
will
be
covered
in
Hardie
board,
siding.
M
The
windows
will
be
single
single
hung:
wood
windows
to
match
the
to
match
the
appropriate
architecture
of
the
neighborhood.
The
stairs
will
be
railings
and
wood,
the
railings
will
be
42
inches
height.
M
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M
What
do
you
call
this
part
of
it?
Yes,.
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M
Footings
concrete
block
wood
frame
covered
with
Hardie
board,
and
then
here
you
have
the
brackets
with
the
overhang.
M
M
So,
just
to
restate
the
main
points,
my
next
door
neighbor,
is
going
to
come
express
our
concerns
about
flooding
in
the
alley
which
there's
not
any,
but
just
to
address
that
ahead
of
time.
We
have
made
sure
that
the
permeability
of
the
site
is
48.48
52,
so
that
is
that
satisfies
code.
It
has
to
be
above
50.
M
and
we
are
also
putting
in
drainage
on
the
accessory
structure
which
will
drain
into
the
yard.
The
Lanai
will
also
have
gutters
that
drains
into
the
yard,
and
then
that
will
have
drainage
that
comes
to
the
front
to
a
bubble
box
and
but,
like
I
said,
the
plans
have
been
worked
on
extensively
by
Ron,
Villa
and
Louisa,
and
if
we
have
no
code
violations,
we're
not
asking
for
any
variances-
and
this
is
very
similar
to
the
project
that
y'all
approved
last
month
across
the
street.
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Good
evening,
commissioner,
Ron
of
Elam
staff
for
historic
preservation,
originally
staffs,
found
this
application
inconsistent
with
the
secretary
of
interior
standards
and
the
Hyde
Park
design
guidelines.
The
original
plans
that
were
submitted
and
reviewed
had
vinyl
siding
that
encompassed
the
the
addition
to
the
primary
house
and
and
for
the
for
the
new
construction
for
the
accessory
structure.
J
There
are
some
letters
that
were
submitted
they're
in
your
packet.
We
have
a
multitude
of
them
that
are
supporting
the
project
and
we
have
one
that
is
against
the
project
just
to
touch
upon
the
the
water
situation
with
storm
water
that
will
all
projects
come
forward.
Storm
water
reviews,
every
project,
along
with
natural
resources,
with
zoning,
transportation
and
historic
preservation,
to
look
at
the
consistency
with
the
project.
Initially,
when
this
project
came
forward,
the
calculation
came
in
at
68
percent
was
not
pervious
after
they
did
their
recalculation.
J
It
shows
that
that
52
percent
is
pervious.
Code
requires
that
50
has
to
be
pervious,
so
this
request
meets
the
city
of
Tampa
code.
Stormwater
is
involved
in
this.
They
have
reached
out
to
the
the
property
owner
that
generated
the
letter.
They've
been
in
discussion
as
this
project
goes
through
the
the
process
towards
permitting
they
will
put
their
eyes
back
on
it
and
make
sure
that
City
of
Tampa
code
is
adhered
to.
J
So
this
isn't
a
storm
water
board,
but
just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background
that
it
has
been
addressed
and
is
still
being
addressed
as
we
speak.
So
if
the
application
has
been
altered
and
that
there's
lap
siding
wood
on
the
on
the
addition
and
the
the
detached
structure
has
Hardy,
then
the
inconsistency
will
come
off
and
the
project
is
consistent.
J
Having
said
that,
we
had
a
series
of
conditions
that
were
attached
on
page
four
through
the
project
and
through
the
presentation
they
address
some
of
them,
but
I
like
to
elaborate
on
on
the
rest
of
them.
We
discussed
fencing.
Originally,
there
is
no
fencing
being
requested
this
evening.
So
that
item
is
not
to
be
addressed.
The
next
one
addresses
the
the
cladding
of
the
vinyl.
You
could
ask
the
owner
what
their
intentions
are.
J
Moving
forward,
the
design
exception
for
the
height
has
been
engaged
already
they're
in
the
process,
as
it
has
not
been
approved
yet
so
as
part
of
the
conditions.
If
this
is
to
go
forward
that
should
be
put
on
the
final
approval.
J
Moving
down
the
list,
some
of
them
were
addressed.
The
overhangs
were
a
minimal
exposure
tonight,
they're
at
24
inches.
We
don't
know
exactly
what's
under
that
siding,
but
if
you
could
delegate
that
to
staff
as
they
uncover
it,
we
could,
you
know,
come
up
to
a
solution
that
is
sensitive
to
the
primary
house:
the
columns
on
the
rear
Edition.
They
were
in
flux.
Until
this
morning
they
were
different
proportions.
J
We
had
them
to
kind
of
scale
them
down
to
be
in
scale
with
that
addition,
they're
six
by
sixes
with
a
capital
and
a
base.
Very
simple,
I
think
that
meets
our
criteria.
J
The
two
last
issues
I
have
is
one
is
that
through
the
presentation,
they
showed
one
elevation
of
the
addition.
You
need
to
walk
around
and
look
at
all
the
elevations,
as
well
and
on
the
accessory
structure,
look
at
the
floor
plan
and
see,
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
put
some
more
windows
in
that
structure.
It's
lacking
some
windows,
so
I'll
leave
that
up
to
the
board
I'll
be
here
to
answer
any
questions,
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
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Q
We
experience
all
the
time
in
our
little
strip
there,
between
Willow
to
Orleans,
we've
written
lots
of
letters
to
the
city
almost
had
them
a
couple
months
say
that
they
would
work
with
us
on
it,
but
things
have
already
changed
on
that
and
now
they're
saying
no,
there
is
no
problems,
we're
not
going
to
deal
with
that.
The
city
doesn't
have
the
money
to
deal
with
that
right
now,
but
I
own,
a
bungalow
I've
lived
there
since
1985.
Q
people
in
Hyde
Park,
and
you
all
know
it
as
a
board
because
you've
heard
it
from
all
the
people
build
these
piggybacks
and
extra
big
houses
onto
the
little
Bungalows
they
eat
up
all
the
they
cut.
He
cut
down
every
single
tree
on
the
yard.
I
watched
him
get
it
cut.
He
cut
every
seed
level,
the
yard
of
every
tree.
Q
He
you
know
they
cut
down
the
yard,
so
you
don't
have
trees
to
absorb
the
water.
You
don't
have
you
add
all
this
structure,
so
all
the
water
is
pouring
off
more.
He
actually
graded.
His
I
watched
him
about
two
months
ago
grade
the
dirt
up
higher,
so
that
makes
the
water
even
pour
more
into
the
alien
into
my
backyard,
which
I
have
pictures
of,
and
you
know
so,
his
land's
already
higher
than
mine.
Q
We
also
have
the
church
on
the
other
side
that
a
few
years
ago,
without
a
permit
I
believe
because
it
happened
one
weekend
on
a
Sunday
on
a
holiday
weekend
when
nobody
was
around
graded
there,
the
church
graded
their
parking
lot
to
repave
it
I
saw
dumps.
I
saw
big
trucks
with
brown
dirt
dumping
it
in
there.
They
graded
it
up
higher
and
they
paved
it
over.
In
a
weekend
they
had
some
church
members
or
somebody
probably
get
them
a
good
deal
on
a
quick
deal
to
get
it
done
on
the
weekend
now
holiday
weekend.
Q
Nobody
was
around
I'm,
always
there
on
the
weekends
I
see
stuff
going
on
anyway,
so
we
got
all
that
water.
That's
been
dumping
from
the
church
parking
lot
down
our
alley.
It
runs
all
the
way
down
our
alley.
He's
two
houses
down
from
the
church,
now
he's
building
this
big
structure
and
he's
built
up
his
dirt.
Q
So
all
that
water
is
coming
down
into
the
alley
and
we're
all
getting
flooded
out
to
the
point
that
last
summer,
which
I
have
pictures
of
the
floorboards
in
my
original
1985
Bungalow
that
original
heart
Pine
were
starting
to
cup,
because
the
water
seeps
under
your
house
and
sits
there
for
days
and
the
moisture
as
it's
evaporating
is
cupping
the
underside
of
your
floors.
Okay,
there's
other
people
in
Hyde
Park
that
have
this
I
know.
You've
heard
this
story.
I
just
want
to
ask
you
as
an
arc
board.
Q
Are
you
protecting
us
as
neighbors
anymore,
because
I
feel
like
so
much
goes
through,
where
you
know
all
these
little
nuances
and
nobody's
seeing
the
flooding
we're
dealing
with
you
know,
adding
all
these
square
footage
is
not
helping
us
taking
down
all
the
trees
is
not
helping
us
people.
Grading
things
where
they
want
to
is
not
helping
us.
None
of
this
is
going
repo.
None
of
this
gets
taken
care
of
with
the
city.
It's
gotten
very
LAX.
Q
This
whole
board
thing
I,
don't
even
know
why
we
bother
we're
so
tired
of
yelling
and
trying
to
get
this
fixed
that
we've
kind
of
given
up
I'm,
trying
to
figure
out
if
I
should
just
get
a
brick
mason
and
pay
a
lot
of
money
and
just
have
a
big
l-shape
or
u-shaped
concrete
block
wall.
So
all
the
water
can
go
back
to
everybody
else,
because
that's
all
we're
doing
we're
shoving
water
from
one
die
to
the
next
and
I.
Ask
you
to
think
about
the
neighbors
I'd
love
to
show
you
the
photos.
Q
R
And
I
leave
a
609
South
will
Avenue
I'm
the
fiance
of
Mike
Swift.
We
went
around
and
we
signed
a
petition
with
the
neighbors
to
see.
If
you
know
they
approve
our
project
and
if
they
have
any
concerns
of
flooding.
So
I
have
proof
of
that
everybody,
whatever
it's
a
star.
That
means
they
live
on
this.
We
share
the
same
alley.
R
So
this
is
the
alley
that
we
share
and
then
we
have
pretty
much
all
the
other
neighbors
never
complain
about
flooding
and
they
say
they
have
not
experienced
flooding.
We
are
the
Willow
Street.
We
are
very
United
neighbors,
we
care
for
for
each
other
and
we
care
a
lot
of
our
neighborhood.
We
like
to
beautify
it,
but
I.
Also
we
like
to
conserve
the
historic
part
of
it
so
I'm
all
in
for
this
project.
C
A
N
They,
the
elevation
for
the
Lanai,
the
Lanai,
is
over
the
over
piers
and
the
Finish
floor.
Elevation
for
the
Lanai
is
24
inches
over
the
gray
and
the
Phoenix
floor.
Elevation
for
the
accessory
structure
for
the
garage
is
only
four
inches
over
the
gray,
but
the
square
foot
for
from
the
accessory
structure
and
the
square
foot
for
the
Lanai
no
increase
the
impervous
area
in
the
property
for
for
over
the
50
percent.
It's
only
we
have
previous
Area
52
percent.
In
any
case,
is
this
increase
and
we
have
to
give
some
solution.
N
We
have
additional
solution
for
ReStore
wire
for
retention,
the
water
in
the
property.
We
because
we
have
a
Spain
on
the
the
slack
in
the
garage
where
we
can
Stories
the
storage
water
for
this
site.
That
conversation
I
stayed
with
the
civil
engineer
from
City
of
Tampa
and
was
some
recommendation
back
at
this
time.
As
wisdom
passed
from
the
52
percent,
we
have
52
percent
Green
Space.
The
solution
is
gone,
going
down
the
store
and
buy
on
the
ground
and
finish
at
the
free
at
the
front
with
bubble
box.
That
is
the
more
economic
solution.
N
C
H
You
so
this
is
all
the
view
on
one
side
for
your
accessory
structure.
Do
you
have
the
view
for
the
other
side
and
on
the
back
side.
B
N
H
H
How
are
you
going
to
be
dealing
and
working
with
the
siding
that
is
on
this
on
this
existing
structure,
because
you're
going
to
be
removing
some
things,
you're,
probably
going
to
have
to
do
some
Patchwork
replacement
work.
M
My
Five-Year
Plan
for
the
house
is
to
restore
store
it
back
to
a
more
preserved
nature,
which
I've
talked
to
Ron
Villa
about
the
goal,
eventually
is
to
remove
all
the
biting
siding
from
the
house,
so
this
project
is
helpful
in
that
we
will
remove
all
the
vinyl
siding
from
the
back
of
the
house
and
repair
it
for
this
project
and
then
move
make
a
another
application
to
do
it
for
the
rest
of
the
house
in
the
future.
So.
H
Repaired
and
repaired,
so
everything
that's
going
to
be,
you
know
patched
or
whatever,
such
as
the
door,
that's
being
removed.
That's
all
can
be
done
in
a
in
a
fashion
of
wood.
That's
going
to
be
matching
what
you
find
behind.
A
H
Just
out
of
curiosity,
have
you
removed
any
vinyl
siding
yet
just
to
find
out?
What's
Underneath
It
All.
M
M
But
yeah
the
house
needs
a
lot
of
love.
So
that's
the
goal
is
to
as
we
remove
this
vinyl
siding
and
and
add
this
Lanai
to
repair
the
back
of
the
house
to
the
original
condition,
wood
planks.
H
N
N
H
N
H
N
H
O
Yes,
extra
wind
so
with
Ron's
statements,
so
there's
two
windows
here:
two
windows
can
be
added
on
the
top
back.
H
I
think
that'd
be
a
wise
move.
I
would
also
think
it'd
be
a
wise
move
to
have
one
one
or
two
windows
on
the
lower
level
of
your
garage
on
the
West
Side.
That
might
be
a
advantage
to
be
no,
not
the
West
Side
the
north
side,
which
would
be
the
side
closest
to
your
neighbor.
M
We
originally
left
that
out,
because
I
was
worried
about
security
concerns
about
somebody
to
break
in
Breaking
in
having
easy
access
to
break
in,
but
I
mean
we
can
change.
H
That
we
could
look
at
that.
We
will
discuss
that
I.
Think
that's
all
I
have
for
question
at
this
point.
G
O
O
M
N
A
N
G
M
F
Piggyback
his
question,
the
texture
of
the
siding
is
it
you
plan
on,
have
a
textured,
siding
or
a
smooth
siding.
You
refer
to
the
trim
as
smooth
trim,
but
what's
the
texture
of
the
siding
there.
N
F
F
N
M
M
Okay,
gotcha
I
took.
M
M
M
Thing
about
my
house,
is
you
know
at
some
point
in
time
in
the
70s
or
80s,
they
replaced
all
the
windows.
So
all
of
my
windows
don't
have
grid
patterns
in
them.
So
I
was
just
going
to
keep
that
consistent
with
the
accessory
structure.
N
F
F
Is
there
a
drainage
I
mean
I,
saw
the
drainage
plant
plan
taking
the
water
from
the
accessory
structure
potentially
to
a
box
in
the
front
yard.
As
far
as
drainage
plan
of
the
actual
current
situation,
is
it
draining
to
the
alley
or
is
it
draining
to
the
street.
N
Yes,
but
for
dark
situation,
we
sitting
with
some
Indian
civil
engineers
from
City
of
Tampa,
and
they
gave
other
solution-
is
that
this
is.
This
is
a
conflict
back
like
this
time
when
we're
making
the
calculation
and
review
the
calculation
is
over
the
50
percent,
the
green
space
that
we
remain
in
the
Sun.
M
M
F
So
the
reason
I'm
asking
just
so
you
know
is
we
actually
have
some
pictures
that
were
in
the
record
of
the
alley
that
look
to
be
quite
deep,
but
unfortunately
I
don't
know
the
circumstances
surrounding
that
particular
rain
event.
Yeah,
so
I
can't
really
speculate
one
way
or
the
other
right
I'm.
Just
again
asking
these
this
question
mainly
to.
M
Yeah,
currently,
the
majority
of
your
money
are
drains
to
Willow
and
you'll,
see
with
the
little
map
that
I
drew
up
when
we
went
and
talked
to
our
neighbors
there's
12
houses
on
the
Alley,
seven
of
the
people
that
we
talked
to,
which
was
all
the
people
that
we
talked
to.
None
of
them
are
stating
that
they
have
any
flooding
problems.
C
E
Quick
question:
while
we're
talking
about
the
site
have
have
you
by
any
chance,
had
the
soil
on
your
property
have
a
what's
called
a
perk
test
done
to
it
to
determine
whether
any
water
can
drain
through
the
site.
You
know
down
without
running
off
the
site:
you've
not
had
a
Protestant.
Okay,
have
you
got
I?
Don't
think
you
do,
but
have
you
got
a
beam,
wrap
detail
for
that
Lanai?
E
B
E
Detail,
it's
just
it's
just
wrapped
in
Hardie
board.
Okay,
the
windows
on
the
the
accessory
structure.
N
B
E
M
Yeah
for
the
accessory
structure,
we
want
wood,
aluminum-claded
wood
windows
on.
E
The
Lanai
floor:
what
is
that?
Wood.
M
E
To
the
ground:
yes,
it
won't.
Okay
on
the
the
Hardy
Board
Siding
that
you
also
brought
up
a
photograph
of
the
photograph
says
photograph
shows
it
is
a
grained
Hardy
Board,
but
yet
in
testimony
it
says
you
said
that
it's
smooth,
but
the
photograph
evidence.
The
evidence
that
was
being
introduced
said
it
shows
green,
which
one
is.
N
E
M
E
Which,
typically
in
typical
historic
properties
and
throughout
Hyde,
Park
and
elsewhere,
the
accessory
structure
can
be
built
slightly
different
than
the
main
house,
because
it's
subservient
to
the
main
house,
it's
lesser
than
the
main
house.
It's
kind
of
like
a
secondary
piece
of
structure
and
minor
and
smaller
and
shorter,
and
doesn't
usually
have
all
the
exact
same
details
as
the
main
house,
but
we're
just
trying
to
clarify
testimony
so.
E
E
All
right,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
appear
same
in
the
house.
E
D
Did
we
previously
see
a
set
of
drawings
that
had
ribbon
driveways
or
am
I
confusing?
This
was
something
else
that
I
looked
at
this
afternoon.
We.
N
M
We
have
my
existing
driveway
is
solid
and
then
between
the
portica
shirt
and
the
accessory
structure,
we're
going
to
have
ribbons
okay,.
N
D
D
So
in
fact
and
I
don't
know
if
you've
done
this
calculation
but
well
more,
are
you
adding
impermeable
slabs
or
are
you
reducing
them
in
this
from
your
existing.
N
D
So
do
we
have
a
net
gain
or
a
net
loss
net
gain
so
you're,
so
you're
a
Net
game
now
I
have
to
think
a
net
Game
Net
game
of
permeable,
we're
improving
the
permeability.
Okay,
and
if
you
do
a
perk
test,
then
you'll
know,
which
is
a
good
thing.
Now
I'll
get
off
that
and
get
on
to
the
architecture,
which
is
what
we're
supposed
to
talk
about:
gotcha,
gotcha
and
you're.
Not
you
are
not
going
to
do
any
fencing
so.
C
It's
not
a
question.
I
would
suspect
that
you
intend
on
conditioning
that
the
interior
spaces
that
are
going
in
the
accessory
structure,
the
upper
the
Upper
Floor
space,
is
correct.
C
Go
so
with
without
a
fence
in
place
right
now.
How
is
that
going
to
be
screened
from
public
view,
because,
unfortunately,
without
a
fence,
you,
you
are
in
view
of
the
alley,
and
we
all
know
how
activated
the
alleys
are
in
Hyde
Park.
They
actually
are
thoroughfare,
not
just
for
cars,
for
people
right.
B
D
C
At
this
time,
okay
and
then
in
terms
of
the
the
Lanai,
are
there
any
ceiling
fans
going
in.
C
C
I
do
think
just
making
a
note
about
the
storm
storm
water
issue
and
to
address
the
concern
in
the
audience.
We
understand
that
there
are
complications,
sometimes
especially
in
in
historic
neighborhoods,
where
storm
infrastructure
is
oftentimes,
the
oldest
in
our
city,
but
as
noted
before
it
doesn't
come
under
our
purview.
So
hopefully
the
other
departments
that
are
responsible
for
that
do
come
forward
and
assess
the
neighborhood
other
than
that.
We
really
can't
do
anything
about
it.
So
it
seems
that
everything
fits
within
the
parameters
of.
P
H
Storm
water
management
I
just
think
that
it's
laudable
in
the
first
place
that
they've
gone,
that
extra
link
to
Twitter.
We
don't
see
about
you,
know
collecting
it
with
their
additions
on
their
accessory
structure
and
moving
it
away
from.
You
know,
potential
sore
spot
on
to
a
more
reasonable
location
and
they're
doing
this
almost
the
hard
way
I
mean
they're
doing
this
by
collecting
it
booting
it
and
piping
it.
No
so
I,
I,
I
I
think
that
they've
addressed
that
issue
quite
well
in
a
personally
myself.
H
The
issue
that
I
want
to
raise
is:
do
we
want
to
consider
the
need
for
any
additional
windows
in
the
accessory
structure,
both
on
the
second,
both
on
the
upper
and
the
lower
level?
At
this
point
in
time,
I
do
understand
that
there
is
a
certain
degree
of
concern
regarding
security
that
you
know
today.
These
hurricane
resistant,
glass,
windows
and
doors
are
remarkably
resistant
to
a
forced
entry.
So
I
think
that
may
be.
H
You
know
a
moot
point
in
certain
regard
and,
of
course,
once
a
fence
comes
into
play,
securing
the
whole
site,
the
whole
security
parameter
changes.
So
to
me,
the
idea
of
adding
windows,
for
you
know
useful
light
in
both
you
know,
garage
workspace,
sort
of
a
situation
or,
in
addition
to
the
backside
of
the
alley
side
of
the
accessory
structure
on
the
second
level,
will
greatly
enhance
the
interior,
character
and
usefulness.
That's
my
personal
opinion.
E
E
Bar
already
has
glass
in
it
and
then
not
putting
windows
on
the
side.
That's
facing
another
property
is
also
a
I
mean
I
understand
that
from
from
just
a
a
privacy
standpoint
you
know,
but.
H
P
B
P
C
H
And
I
have
no
no
issue
at
all
with,
with
with
making
this
a
staff
coordination
item,.
C
I
I
agree
in
terms
of
the
size
and
the
proportion
you
know
in
the
location.
I
just
I
really
encourage
that
those
walls,
those.
B
F
I
thought
only
other
thing:
I
really
add
is
just
to
clarify,
and
maybe
we
can
kind
of,
let
that
coordinate
the
staff
too,
but
on
the
texture,
because
we
got
a
couple
different
answers
there
on
the
siding,
texture
I
got
one
from
Mr
Smith
and
then,
of
course
he
got
a
different
one
from
the
designer,
so,
whichever
one
we
feel
appropriate,
I
feel
like
we
should
clarify
tonight.
F
Won't
matter
anyway,
but
but
it
will
I
mean
that
textured
us
on
Hardy
it's
a
little
different.
It's.
E
So
I
mean
so
really
what
I
have
is
is
review.
The
ceiling
fan
review
the
screen,
screening
of
the
HVAC
under
the
the
accessory
structure,
stairs
and
revisit
some
additional
windows
and
accessory
structure
of
the
staff.
H
D
Exactly
and
the
coordination
of
the
line,
the
Lanai
ceiling,
details
and
fan
placement.
P
D
C
D
So
right
now
we're
looking
at
the
we're
looking
at
live.
C
D
C
E
E
B
H
E
I
moved
to
Grant
a
certificate
of
appropriates
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
at
this
public
Hearing
in
Arc
23-76
for
the
property
of
609
South
Willow
Avenue,
with
the
following
conditions
that
that
the
accessory
structure
HVAC
unit
gets
some
sort
of
screening,
whether
it
be
man-made
or
planting.
E
The
ceiling
fan
location
design,
be
coordinated
with
staff
that
the
applicant
reconsider,
adding
some
additional
windows
to
the
accessory
structure
that
this
is
conditioned
upon,
receiving
a
design
exception
for
the
height
of
the
accessory
structure
and
that
we
see
or
that
the
staff
review
beam
box
detailing
on
the
Lanai
and
that
staff
be
consulted.
E
When
I
can't
read
what
you're
writing
did
staff
be
consulted
once
the
rear,
existing
wood
under
aluminum
siding
is
uncovered
and
and
be
a
part
of
the
restoration
repair
of
that,
because,
based
upon
the
finding
a
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
Hyde
Park
design,
guidelines
of
the
city
of
Tampa.
For
the
following
reason
that
the
accessory
structure
is
of
proper
massing
and
scale
and
fits
in
with
the
fabric
of
the
existing
neighborhood
and
is
complying
with
chapter
27
of
the
city
code.
D
M
J
J
For
the
address
of
305
South
Boulevard,
this
is
in
Hyde,
Park,
historic
district
as
well.
The
current
structure
there
was
constructed
in
2005.
It
is
a
non-contributing
structure.
The
underlying
zoning
is
PD.
The
recommendation
that
you're
going
to
review
this
evening
and
forward
to
city
council
is
from
a
rezoni
from
PD
to
PD.
J
Are
your
duties
and
Powers
just
briefly
I
like
to
read
through
them.
We
have
a
new
commissioner
and
then
I'll
bring
it
to
your
attention
again
when
we
get
into
the
staff
section,
but
under
chapter
27,
113
a2j,
your
Authority
and
powers
are
as
follows.
With
regards
to
the
application
for
rezoning,
changes
to
land
use,
classifications
or
comprehensive
plan,
amendments
to
review
and
recommend
reasonable
land
use,
changes
to
the
extent
necessary
to
preserve
the
historic
integrity
and
appearance.
J
Having
said
that,
that
as
I
go
through
the
photo
presentation
just
to
give
you
some
history
that
this
site
was
outside
of
the
Local
District,
we
expanded
the
district
just
recently
in
January,
it
was
approved
by
city
council,
and
this
is
a
part
of
the
expanded
area.
So
it
falls
under
your
purview
this
evening.
J
The
request
is
to
add
one
use
to
the
underlying
PD,
which
intensifies
the
site
concerning
parking
which
the
owner
will
go
through
that
with
you,
but
hopefully
it
becomes
clear
exactly
what
the
request
is,
starting
with
the
Sanborn
map
property
in
question,
it's
an
interior
lot.
Obviously
the
structure
is
not
there.
This
is
the
historic
structure
that
has
been
removed.
It
does
face
South
Boulevard
to
the
north.
You
have
Platte,
there
is
an
alley
that
runs
behind
it
that
helps
address
the
automobile
access
to
and
from
this
property.
C
C
J
The
reason
for
the
aerial
to
show
you
the
massing
for
the
structure
itself
and
then
the
parking
is
contained
under
the
the
structure
and
towards
the
rear.
And
then
the
alley
is
behind
that.
J
To
clarify
this
is
the
local
District
of
Hyde
Park.
This
is
the
whole
District
here.
What
I
have
in
yellow
was
not
included
in
the
district
since
we
expanded
it.
We've
Incorporated
everything
north
of
DeLeon
to
Horatio
azio,
all
the
way
to
Platte
the
subject
site
is
here
on
South
Boulevard,
almost
a
plat
so
is
incorporated
into
the
expansion
area,
and
that's
why
it's
in
front
of
you,
foreign.
J
J
J
J
S
Good
evening
board
members,
my
name
is
David
mechanic
I'm
one
of
the
building
owners
I'm
an
attorney,
and
this
is
a
building
for
that
houses.
Our
offices
we
are
here
tonight
because
we
filed
a
rezoning.
The
purpose
of
the
rezoning
was
to
make
one
change
and
one
change
only
to
add
as
a
permitted
use
medical
office
and
the
purpose
behind
that
is
simply
to
create
options
for
the
future.
The
zoning
currently
only
allows
business
or
professional
office.
We
are
proposing
no
changes
whatsoever
to
the
structure.
S
The
only
change
that
occurs
is
in
the
rear
parking
lot,
because
the
code,
the
city
code,
requires
additional
parking.
When
you
add
medical
office,
we
wanted
to
meet
what
we
determined.
We
submitted
a
study
with
the
zoning
application
and
determined
that
the
national
average
for
medical
offices
five
spaces
per
thousand,
so
we
wanted
to
achieve
that
and
so
on
your
Elmo.
S
What
you
will
see
is
that
we
are
adding
one
parking
space
at
the
northwest
corner
of
the
property
facing
the
alley.
In
order
to
accomplish
adding
the
one
space
we
have
to
reduce
the
buffer
area
from
eight
feet
to
four
feet.
That
is
the
sole
change
that
we
are
proposing
this
evening.
We
do
not
believe
this
has
any
bearing
on
the
character
of
the
historic
district,
and
we
would
respectfully
request
your
approval
of
this
or
recommend
approval
of
the
zodiac
application.
C
D
Couldn't
hear
you
so
in
the
in
the
document
that
I
read
earlier
today,
you
said
or
if
I'm
remembering
correctly
24
spaces
would
be
required.
Yeah.
S
That
is
a
city
code
is
sick,
is
six
spaces
per
thousand,
but
we
submitted
a
study
which
is
also
submitted
to
the
arc,
which
indicated
that
the
national
average
is
only
five
spaces
per
thousand.
So
what
we
did?
We
are
proposing
to
add
one
space
in
order
to
meet
that
National
Standard
of
five
spaces
per
thousand.
D
And
by
doing
the
and
by
changing
the
PD
as
you
change
the
PD,
then
you
are
not
required
because
it's
a
PD
you're
not
required
to
meet
the
standard
number
of
parking
spaces.
No.
S
D
I
I
S
S
J
I
think
the
best
one
that
that
I
have
to
show
you
that
illustrates
it.
It's
the
buffering
that
the
horizontal
buffering
that
was
required
when
the
PD
came
forward
is
here.
This
is
the
last
parking
spot
and
this
is
the
the
buffering
area,
the
eight
foot
area,
as
it
approaches
the
alley.
The
alleys
back
here
so
he's
incorporating
the
additional
parking
spot
here
to
get
up
to
the
20
that
he
says
that
his
study
meets.
But
it
is
shy
of
the
the
the
request
by
adding
medical
to
the
use
within
this
site.
S
We
are
adding
pervious,
pavers
and
I
have
a
probably
a
little
bit
better
photograph.
Okay
of
the
area,
this
this
rear
buffer
would
be
reduced
by
four
feet,
but
what
will
be
put
in
its
place
are
pervious
papers.
C
S
C
H
I
have
no
issue
with
this
I
think
a
factor
of
reducing
potentially
unused
or
unusable
parking
is
is
an
advantage,
particularly
in
a
compact
area
such
as
our
Hyde
Park.
So
I
think
this
is
a
motion
in
the
right
direction.
F
C
C
I
So
I'm
going
to
read
you
the
section
of
code
that
we're
that
we're
looking
at
with
this
item
and
it's
subsection
J
of
section
two,
a
27-113
with
regard
to
applications
for
rezoning,
changes
to
land,
use,
classifications
or
comprehensive
plan,
amendments
to
review
and
recommend
reasonable
land
use,
changes
to
the
extent
necessary
to
preserve
the
historical
integrity
and
appearance
of
the
locally
designated
Landmark
Landmark
site,
multiple
property,
designation,
historic
conservation,
overlay,
District
or
historic
district
in
accordance
with
the
applicable
design
standards.
D
D
D
D
C
D
P
F
F
F
P
P
R
F
J
Commissioners
good
evening,
Ron
Bilo
City
staff
for
historic
preservation.
This
will
be
the
last
agenda
item.
This
is
for
case
arct,
which
indicates
this
is
for
the
tax
ad
valorem
23-02.
The
address
is
905
North,
Florida
Avenue.
This
is
a
local
Landmark.
So
the
only
criteria
that
you're
going
to
use
this
evening
as
you
get
into
discussion,
are
the
Secretary
of
interior
standards.
There
are
no
local
guidelines
for
our
Landmark.
The
the
zoning
is
CBD
the
central
business
district
of
downtown.
The
request
is
for
an
ad
valorem
tax
assessment,
part
one.
J
This
is
pre-construction
you're,
going
to
review
the
building
in
its
current
state
and
then
with
the
improvements
that
the
owners
are
choosing
to
come
forward
with
it's
very
heavily
situated
on
a
photo
presentation,
they're
going
to
have
some
language
associated
with
it.
So
it's
going
to
be
easy
to
follow
through
we
assisted
them
in
the
presentation
they're
going
to
start
on
the
exterior
and
then
work
their
way
to
the
interior.
They'll
show
you
a
floor
plan
and
then
work
their
way
up.
This
is
a
19-story
building.
J
Some
past
action,
I
recall
back
in
2000
that
this
building
was
compromised
and
on
the
verge
of
the
discussion
for
demolition.
The
prior
owner
came
forward,
renovated
the
building.
He
received
an
ad
alarm
at
that
time
well,
and
working
from
2000
to
2012
and
2012.
He
received
the
ad
valorem
and
it
ran
for
10
years.
The
current
ad
valorem
has
elapsed,
and
now
they
have
the
ability
to
come
forward
with
additional
renovations
to
the
interior
exterior
of
the
building
as
part
of
the
ad
valorem.
J
It
is
an
elective
process
that,
if
there's
minimum
qualifications
to
enter
into
the
ad
valorem,
that
is
it's
either
in
a
local,
historic
district
and
a
contributing
structure,
or
it's
a
local
Landmark
which
this
one
qualifies
and
that
it
it
satisfies
the
budgetary
input
of
ten
thousand
dollars
or
greater,
which
ten
thousand
dollars
is
not
very
much
these
days.
So
this
qualifies
to
move
forward
for
the
ad
valorem.
J
There's
a
a
joint
effort,
as
this
moves
forward,
the
property
appraiser
where
the
county
will
go
out,
assess
the
building
and
after
Rehabilitation
they'll
reassess
it
again
and
whatever
that
assessment
is
that's
the
Savings
in
between
that
will
be
granted
to
to
the
owners.
That
is
an
independent
process.
We
don't
get
involved
with
any
evaluations.
This
board
or
the
city
does
not
engage
with
that.
J
So
a
little
bit
of
background
that
I
wanted
to
give
you
just
very
quickly
go
through
it,
because
they
have
a
lot
of
photos
to
show
you,
but
because
this
is
outside
of
the
districts
that
you
usually
see
just
to
orientate
you.
This
is
downtown.
It's
on
the
corner
of
Florida,
Avenue
and
Cass
is
where
the
local
Landmark,
which
is
here.
J
This
is
the
podium
shot
as
it
faces.
Florida
Avenue.
You
see
this
little
canopy
cover
which
will
come
into
play
later
on
and
then,
as
you
look
up
the
shaft
on
this
building
and
then
the
capital
on
top
moving
to
the
ground
level
on
Cass-
and
you
see,
the
back
is
really
an
ornate.
Usually
the
the
money
was
spent
on
the
street
elevations
and
there
was
probably
another
building
here.
So
not
a
lot
of
exposure
here.
J
That
was
probably
shielded
from
public
view,
so
the
podium
here
and
then,
as
you,
look
up
the
shaft
and
the
capital
on
the
building,
just
more
of
a
grand
shot
to
conclude
on
the
exposure
on
the
corner
that
has
Florida
Avenues
a
one-way
Street
and
as
you're
leaving
downtown,
you
really
get
a
view
of
this
building.
At
this
time,
the
owners
and
his
team
will
come
forward.
T
My
name
is
Joseph
Smith
I'm
joined
here
with
Lisa
chasteen,
who
is
our
legal
counsel,
who
actually
was
involved
with
the
original
restoration
with
the
prior
owner
before
us,
I'm
also
joined
by
Ryan
Hennessey
who's
from
pdsi,
which
is
a
hotel
project
management
and
Restoration
company,
as
well
as
Chris
Eastman
Chris
is
also
our
day-to-day
representative
from
the
renovation
on
the
ground.
Chris
used
to
run
Suffolk
construction
for
Tampa
Bay,
as
well
as
work
for
Daryl
LeClaire,
who
many
of
you
probably
know
from
the
development
side
here
in
Tampa
Bay.
T
So
I
like
to
think
that
we
we've
assembled
a
the
best
team.
We
possibly
can
to
get
a
quality
project.
To
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background
as
briefly
and
I
won't
bore
you
with
too
much
details,
but
we're
passionate
about
Restorations.
It's
what
we
do.
It's
what
we
love.
We've
done,
everything
from
restore
the
Earl
of
cadogan's
Home
in
London
to
a
hotel
that
exists
today.
T
That's
actually
a
Belmont
hotel
in
London
to
restoring
Faina,
which
is
a
historical
renovation,
Miami
Beach
that
was
a
close
to
200
Key
hotel
in
Miami
Beach
to
wapasada
De
Santa
Fe,
which
is
a
hotel
in
Santa
Fe,
which
you
can
imagine.
Not
only
is
it
a
Victorian
home,
but
it's
actually
surrounded
by
Pueblo
structures,
which
is
important
to
the
Native
Community
there.
It
was
actually
a
place
where
George
O'keeffe
used
to
paint
and
actually
reside.
T
So,
if
you
think
about
constituents
and
stakeholders,
we
are
very
familiar
with
those
issues
and-
and
we
really
don't
refer
to
ourselves
as
owners-
we
refer
to
ourselves
as
stewards
of
properties,
because
we're
acutely
aware
of
the
fact
that
we
are
having
this
property
for
some
period
of
time
and
we'll
move
it
forward
to
to
the
Next
Generation
I
will
I
just
like
to
thank
you.
This
is
super
important
for
us
for
a
few
different
reasons.
Number
one
is
when
you
think
about
it:
we'll
spend
probably
30
million
dollars
in
this
restoration.
T
The
prior
owner
before
me
probably
spent
another
30
million
dollars
in
just
the
renovation
dollars
alone,
not
to
mention
land
costs
and
the
actual
cost
of
purchasing
these
assets.
You're,
probably
talking
about
more
than
market
value.
T
So
without
these
type
of
concessions
and
help
from
from
the
the
city
and
from
The
Arc,
it's
it's
almost
impossible
to
do
these
type
of
things,
because,
unfortunately,
in
today's
world
it
costs
more
to
restore
than
it
does
to
build
new,
and
so
it's
very
important
I
want
to
thank
you
very
much
for
doing
this
and
without
further
Ado
I'll
get
into
the
or
at
least
we'll
get
into
the
technical
aspects
of
the
project.
T
So
we're
very
excited
to
be
here
one
a
couple
other
things
I'd
like
to
mention
sorry:
I
can't
help
myself
and
I'll.
Please
go
too
long.
Everything
we're
doing
is
really
a
restoration
when
you
think
about
what
the
prior
owner
did
what
he
did
was
kind
of
more
of
a
pleasure
project
right
for
some
reason,
cherubs
appeared
on
in
the
paintings
and
the
chandeliers
end
up
being
not
consistent
with
the
chandeliers
that
were
there
before
in
the
asset,
and
it
became
it's.
T
The
name
of
the
asset
says
at
a
palace
right,
our
vision
is
not
a
palace.
Our
vision
is
a
a
1920s
Grand
Dom
asset
very
much
the
way.
The
Vinoy
is
a
grand
Dom
or
the
Don
Cesars
at
Grand
Dom,
and
what
you'll
hear
tonight
is
even
things
like
the
facade
building
which
you
see
on
the
screen.
Above
you
is
a
six
and
a
half
million
dollar
restoration.
T
Just
to
preserve
it,
not
to
change
it,
not
to
architecturally
change,
any
elements,
not
the
coloring,
the
brick
and
that
it's
just
repointing
the
whole
entire
building,
replacing
brick
replacing
terracotta,
that's
been
water
damaged,
the
property
does
have
water
issues
and
and
leaks
throughout
it.
So
really,
what
we're
talking
about
is
making
it
structurally
safer
and
more
sound
we're
not
only
the
occupants
of
building
but
the
residents
that
walk
by
every
day,
but
also
making
it.
You
know
a
property
that
is
actually
just
safe
and
enjoyable
by
everyone
without
risk.
T
As
you
maybe
know,
there
was
actually
some
bricks
that
fell
from
the
building
a
few
years
ago.
We
don't
want
to
have
that
happen
again.
I
think
the
prior
owner,
unfortunately
didn't
take
it
far
enough.
We
want
to
finish
the
job.
Do
the
right
job
fully,
restore
the
facade
and
the
property,
so
with
that
I'll
hand
it
over
to
Lisa
and
take
it
over
thanks.
L
L
And
I
am
going
to
be
sort
of
co-presenting
here.
Would
you
like
to
Ryan.
L
So
we
we
brought
a
team
because
we
figured
there
might
be
some
important
questions
and
we
want
to
be
prepared
so
I
wanted
to.
We
have
a
lot
of
photos
and
I.
Think
that'll
help
just
tell
the
story
of
what
we're
doing
here.
First,
let's
go
through
the
history.
I've
assembled,
some
of
the
historic
photos
that
we
used
in
in
the
20
2005
to
2012
restoration
that
Tony
marcopolis
did
he
brought
the
structure
again
back
to
life,
which
was
something
that
nobody
had
been
able
to
do
for
30
years.
L
So
we
have
to
really
thank
him
for
that.
I
worked
with
him
daily
and
I
I
grew
to
love
him.
He
was
very
passionate
about
it,
but,
as
Joe
said,
this
building
is
the
type
of
structure
that
needs
constant
attention
and
iterative
care.
It
cannot
be
cared
for
once
and
that's
it.
So
that's
why
we're
here
so
here
are
some
of
the
the
you
can
see
some
some
of
the
facade
views.
L
You
know
we're
going
through
the
you
know
the
different
difference,
facades,
obviously
you're
familiar
with
this
building.
It
can't
be
missed
in
downtown.
L
These
are
each
of
the
facades
and
I'm
going
rather
quickly,
because
I
have
a
lot
of
photos
to
go
through
you'll,
see
the
existing
condition
in
a
little
bit
of
areas.
You
know
these
are
just
representative
photos.
L
We've
got
entire
reports,
which
we've
actually
filed
with
your
staff
that
that
detail,
the
exterior
condition
of
this
structure,
which
documents
all
of
the
help
it
needs
I'm,
just
showing
you
in
this
presentation
for
the
interest
of
time,
a
few
photos
that
represent
what's
going
on
here,
so
you
can
see
some
of
the
exterior
cladding
issues
and
the
and
the
coping
stones.
And
would
you
like
to
say
anything
about
this
Ryan
yeah.
K
I
mean
we're
treating
this
this
building
very,
that
the
team
that
we
hired
the
GC
is
Western
specialty
contractors
Theory
that's.
This
is
what
they
do.
They
go
to
Historic
properties
and
they
get
them
back
to
the
way
they
should
look
with
the
utmost
care
and
the
utmost
skill.
They've
assembled
their
own
team
of
skilled
Craftsmen
that
go
up
there
and
use
special
tools
that
they're
trained,
specifically
used
on
historical
buildings
and
they're
very
well
versed
with
this
property.
K
L
Thank
you
and
then
you
can
see
here
some
of
the
challenges
that
we're
facing
right
now
you
can
see
the
the
state
of
the
masonry,
the
need
for
pointing
the
you
know:
shelf
angles,
you
name
it.
This
is
the
type
of
thing
that
just
continues
to
deteriorate
over
time
or
maybe
was
not
cared
for.
L
You
know
exactly
right
in
the
first
in
the
first
place,
but
believe
me,
the
first
restoration
was
was
a
yeoman's
task,
so
moving
on
the
Terracotta
elements
are
so
beautiful
on
that
building
and
those
are
some
of
the
elements
that
are
most
vulnerable
and
they
some
of
them
have
cracks,
and
we
don't
like
to
see
that
can
also
be
a
safety
issue,
and
obviously
you
know
those
things
that
let
in
the
the
water
have
caused
some
damage
inside
the
building
as
well.
L
So
you'll
see
that
when
we
get
to
the
interior,
so
here's
the
here's,
a
new
proposed
lighting
format
for
the
hotel.
The
base
would
still
be
lit.
It's
not
shown
here,
but
the
the
emphasis
is
on
the
top
just
to
show
how
it
would
be
sort
of
framed
and
and
given
a
new
look
to
to
Garner
attention
for
the
hotel.
L
As
for
the
canopies,
we
we're
proposing
to
just
re-roof
the
canopies
and
restore
you
will
see.
There's
some
missing
golden
blooms
at
the
top,
so
the
rhythm
is
completely
broken
there.
Those
would
be
restored.
L
There's
also
some
signage
that
we're
proposing
over
the
canopy
area,
but
they
would
be
behind
the
blooms
and
I'll
show
you
that
in
just
a
moment
again
I'm
just
running
through
this
for
time
the
storefronts
you
can
see
you
know
the
historic
storefronts
they
are
essentially
the
same.
You
can
see
some
canopies
over
the
windows,
we're
not
proposing
that
right
now,
but
you
can
see
the
status
of
it
today.
This
is
our
existing
condition,
and
now
you
can
see
the
deterioration.
L
L
They
are
going
to
be
repaired
and
restored
with
like
materials
or
just
repainting
and
and
sealing
so
what
and
you
can
see
here-
the
the
the
muttons
on
the
you
know
the
rusting
on
the
metal
windows,
the
metal
windows
are
on
the
North
and
I
believe
East
faces
and
the
southern
and
western
faces
are
wooden
and.
L
And
then
you've
got
you've
got
the
exterior
signage,
we're
we're
proposing
the
the
rooftop
sign
will
be
repaired
and
restored,
and
it
will
stay.
That's
the
historic
signage
now
here
you
will
see
an
introduction
of
the
proposed
signage
four
street
level,
identification
of
the
structure.
This
has
always
been
an
issue
for
this
structure.
There's
no
way
to
tell
where
the
heck
you
are
or
what
it
is
from
the
street.
So
this
is
one
way
we
can
do
this.
L
So
what
we're
proposing
here
and
I'll
show
you
is
on
either
side
of
the
of
the
cast
Street
canopy
and
also
on
the
south
side
of
the
Florida
Avenue
canopy.
We
would
propose
these
these
letters
and
you
can
see
that
they
would
be
lit
from
inside
and
they
would
be
sat
on
very
narrow
supports,
but
behind
the
golden
blooms
and
above
so
they
would
just
sort
of
float
in
the
air
and
at
night
they
would
look
like
just
the
letters
floating
in
space.
L
U
So
a
couple
of
different
Roofing
projects
that
we've
got
going
on
in
the
lower
right.
You
can
see
that's
the
fourth
floor
roof.
It
is
inundated
with
mechanical
equipment.
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
mechanical
work
that
we're
going
to
do
as
well,
but
that
roof
gets
completely
replaced
in
the
upper
left.
That's
the
that's!
The
high
roof
that
roof
also
gets
replaced.
U
U
There
is
some
penthouses
up
there,
the
roofs
there
are
a
little
bit
newer.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
an
overlay
on
those
roofs,
but
obviously
the
roofing
being
a
big
part
of
the
building
envelope
needs
to
be
needs
to
be
redone,
as
well
as
all
the
exterior
facade
work.
L
Okay,
so
now
let's
go
inside
we're
looking
at
the
existing
ground
floor
and
I
will,
let
you
guys
explain,
but
the
the
existing
or
the
the
proposed
changes
on
the
ground
floor
are
essentially
moving
a
corridor
and
if
you
guys
can
can
point
maybe
to
the
on
the
prior
slide,
it
might
be
easier
to
show
the
I
don't
know
if.
C
L
Do
that
on
on
the
elements.
A
L
L
U
So
so
the
changes
on
the
first
floor,
we've
got.
We've
got
a
service
quarter
back
here.
That
gets
some
work,
obviously
okay.
So
this
is
really
the
back
of
house
area
here
where
there
is
a
laundry
there's
back
a
house
for
staff
that
kind
of
thing
housekeeping.
So
all
of
that's
here
linen
is
up
here
in
this
area.
Here,
there's
a
cafe
and,
of
course,
the
the
bar
in
the
restaurant
area
down
here,
which
isn't
part
of
this
project.
U
This
back
area
here
is
recently
open
for
retail.
So
there's
what's
up
here
up
in
this
area
here,
so
that
is
at
the
corner
of
Tyler
in
Florida
and
that
will
be
available
for
lease
as
the
owner
moves
forward.
Yeah.
L
L
So
this
is
all
back
of
house.
This
was
the
laundry
and
service
area
so
where
they're,
making
most
of
the
changes
is
in
a
connection,
they
just
widened
a
little
hallway.
That
goes
to
the
ballroom
space,
which
was
back
of
house
and
that's
about
it
and
they're
and.
T
They're
the
easiest
said:
there's
really
nothing
happening
in
that
four,
except
for
the
connection
to
the
non-historical
building
next
door.
Yeah
and
that's
in
the
retail
space
and
everything
mentioned-
is
actually
the
non-historical
building
next
door.
So
it's
got
nothing
to
do
with
this
project,
so.
L
Okay,
so
now
that's
this
is
just
historic
ground
floor
photos.
You
can
see
the
the
interior
of
the
gym.
The
the
photo
on
top
to
the
left
is
the
cast
tree
entry,
as
is
the
bottom.
Let's
go
down
to
the
second
floor.
This
is
the
most
significant
floor
in
the
Hotel.
This
is
this
is
the
lobby
area,
so
I
know
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
talk
about
this,
but
we
we're
not
making
a
lot
of
significant
changes
here.
L
We
are
proposing
that
we
use
a
smooth
finish
on
the
on
the
walls,
because
the
finish
that
was
done
was
sort
of
a
knock
down
previously,
so
it
wasn't
really
historic.
Yeah.
T
Talking
about
the
lobby?
Sorry
about
that,
but
you
know
really:
we
have
like
a
1980s
style,
knockdown
stucco
finish.
It's
totally
inappropriate
for
the
air,
this
ass.
It
doesn't
make
any
sense.
I,
don't
know
how
it
ended
up
there,
but
it's
it's
totally
out
of
place.
The
other
major
change
of
the
chandeliers
are
right.
Now
this
reorantate
Palace
style.
You
know
chandelier.
If
you
look
at
these
pictures,
you'll
see
they're
almost
flat
like
Wagon
Wheel.
T
We
have
a
modern
rendition,
which
is
a
flat
chandelier
that
kind
of
emulates
what
it
was
in
the
past,
but
giving
it
a
modern
look
to
it.
The
railings
all
stay
the
structure
stays
nothing
is
being
removed
around
the
1980s
style
front
desk.
That
is
there
again.
That's
really
kind
of
a
sore
thumb
and
sticks
out
is
being
removed
and
that'll
be
torn
out
and
it'll
be
replaced
with
sorry.
If
I'm.
T
That
80
style
desk
obviously
is
not
historical
at
all.
It
doesn't
belong
there,
we're
going
to
replace
it
with
these
bespoke,
clad
iron
or
sorry
weather
wrapped,
with
rivets
around
it,
to
give
it
a
1920s,
almost
industrial
look
to
it,
so
you
can
see
how
that
looks.
You
will
see
also
there's
like
brass
elements.
T
These
are
all
nut
things
from
the
1920s
right
when
you
walk
in
you
want
to
feel
like
you're
in
the
era
and
I
think
right
now
you
walk
in,
and
you
say
why
am
I
walking
into
1980s
at
the
same
time
I'm
walking
into
the
1920s.
So
this
in
our
opinion,
you
see
the
chandeliers
they're,
all
they're,
modern,
but
they're
flat,
similar
to
how
the
old
chandeliers
used
to
look.
We
think
that's
much
more
consistent
with
the
way
the
hotel
used
to
originally
look.
T
L
One
other
one,
other
thing
that
we
should
mention
is
the
is
this
around
for
the
for
the
the
entry
to
the.
T
Go
back
one
just
real
quick,
see
that
that
and
this
isn't
really
a
structural
item,
but
it's
kind
of
fun
and
you
might
enjoy
it,
which
is
the
whole
Keys
slots.
We're
actually
going
to
to
redo,
actually
buy
vintage
Keys
put
them
in
make.
It
seem
like
it's
the
original
1920s
experience
in
check-in
and
while
that
may
not
be
actually
in
the
purview
of
this
board,
because
it's
not
structural
I
thought
you
might
want
to
hear
that
and
figure
out
that
you
know
we're
really
sincere
about
making
this
really.
L
And
then
we've
got
obviously
the
lobby
bar.
These
are
the
existing
conditions
and
there's
the
logia
which
was
enclosed
later
this
there's
a
there's,
a
small
entry
to
in
the
back
of
the
first
photo
to
the
kitchen
area,
that's
going
to
be
gone,
but
otherwise,
and
that
was
that
was
not
historic.
That
was
just
something
that
was
placed
there
in
the
last
renovation
actually
right
before
the
last
renovation,
and
you.
U
L
Yeah
and
you'll
see
the
the
entry
that
goes
underneath
the
balcony.
There
is
an
opening
and
that
opening
leads
through
two
stairwells
that
go
down
short
stairwells
go
down
into
the
lobby
area
where
the
check-in
desk
is,
and
so
that
area
right
there
historically
had.
Let
me
just
find
it
for
us,
gosh
I'm,
so
sorry,
I
can't
yeah
I,
know.
T
L
L
And
so
I
guess
you
know
we
can
go
through
the
the
mezzanine,
which
is
the
other
significant
floor,
but
we
would
need
more
time
so
I
apologize.
C
L
L
You
will
see
in
the
floor
plan
here.
There
is
at
the
bottom
of
your
page.
You'll
see
a
curved
little
element
next
to
the
elevators,
and
that
is
a
balcony
that
overlooks
the
dining
room
area.
L
What
we're
proposing
here
is
a
change.
There's
only
two
changes
on
this
on
this
level
that
are
architecturally
changes.
L
This
there's
a
a
little
sorry
glass,
there's,
there's
glazing
that
we're
going
to
install
at
at
the
wall
right
there
by
the
elevator
other
wall,
all
the
way
over
to
the
other
side,
to
basically
attenuate
noise,
but
it
will
be
just
glazing,
so
it
will
not
affect
the
the
guest
experience
by
you
know
obstructing
any
views
or
anything,
and
there
will
be
a
door
in
it
so
that
if
people
want
to
experience
going
out
on
the
balcony
and
looking
over
the
the
the
crystal
dining
room,
they
can
do
that
still
and
that
from
what
I
understand
from
some
of
the
old
people
that
I
met
one
during
the
first
restoration
that
I
was
involved
with,
that
was
that
balcony
was
used
for
political
candidacy,
announcements.
L
So
we
might
want
to
you
know
let
that
happen
again.
So
you'll
see
some
of
the
historic
photos.
This
is
a
meeting
room
in
here
and
I'll.
Let
you
guys
speak
to
what's
going
on
in
these
in
these
rooms,
but
these
are
basically
getting
we're.
Getting
new
glazing
on
the
windows
and
yeah.
T
I
mean
literally
this:
this
is
mostly
cosmetic
ceiling,
stays
the
way.
It
is
it's
new
carpet.
It's
a
skim
of
the
vertical
walls.
It's
pink
and
you
know
so
it's
really
just
cosmetic.
The
room
essentially
stays
the
same.
The
other
thing
is,
if
you
see
those
windows
by
the
side
there
I,
don't
just
the
glass
will
be
replaced
again.
The
glass
was
put
in.
There
ended
up
being
a
almost
like
a
1970s
era.
L
That's
the
balcony
area
that
you
that
you
just
we
just
talked
about.
So
let's
go
to
the
room
floors.
These
are
the
fourth
through
the
19th
floors.
This
is
the
only
historic
photo
I
could
find
of
the
of
rooms
in
the
hotel
and
a
manager
was
using
that
now.
What
we're
proposing
here
is
a
more
it's
actually
a
little
bit
more
of
a
reference
to
history.
Joe,
please,
please
explain
you
you're
so
good
at
explaining
your
room.
T
T
What
we're
also
doing
in
the
bathrooms
is
we
have
a
new
vanity
that
we'll
be
putting
in
the
red
marble
that
was
installed
in.
There
is
a
brand
requirement
that
we,
this
hotel
by
the
way,
will
be
within
the
Hilton
reservation
system,
although
it
would
not
be
Hilton
Hotel
it'll,
be
you
know
its
own
independent
name
operating
independently,
but
it'll
be
in
the
Hilton
reservation
system.
T
As
you
can
see,
what
we're
installing
is
something
that's
aesthetically,
an
update,
even
the
mirror
I
think,
is
a
little
bit
bespoke
and
feels
1920s
the
way
that
it
has
the
lights
on
the
side
and
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
than
your
typical
mirrors.
Today.
You
know:
one
thing
you
don't
really
see
around,
there's
artwork
and
I
know
artwork
again
is
getting
a
little
off
topic,
but
you
know
what
some
of
the
rooms
are.
T
Having
you
know,
vintage
type
books
with
the
story
of
Gasparilla
on
it,
framed
put
on
the
wall,
black
and
white
photos
of
women
and
gowns
from
the
1920s,
so
you
know
very
different
than
what
it
is
today
today.
There's
like
fruit,
you
know,
so
it's
really.
It's
meant
to
pay
an
homage.
If
you
look
at
this,
this
is
a
hallway.
L
Okay
and
then
we
talk
about
vertical
axis
in
our
in
our
application.
We
talk
mainly
about
this.
All
we're
doing
is
ripping
out
this
carpet
and
replacing
it
and
cleaning
these
things,
so
not
a
whole
lot,
but
we
also
talk
about
the
lift
work.
Would
you
like
to.
K
Talk
about
I
mean
we're
replacing
both
of
them
we're
relocating
one
of
them
for
ease
of
access
and
updating
it,
because
one
of
them
is
not
for
Ada
code.
Back
to
the
elevators,
though
too,
we
are
painting
the
exterior
of
the
elevators
to
match
the
brass.
Look
that
we're
going
to
go
with
for
the
rest
of
the
color
Motif
in
the
lobby
as
well.
U
Yeah
the
so
the
mechanical
work
obviously
required.
The
this
is
the
the
main
part
of
the
renovation
is
not
the
guest
room,
mechanical
work,
but
the
public
space
and
the
the
corridor,
so
the
quarter
HVAC
system
needs
to
be
replaced
completely.
We
are
actually
when
we
do
the
re-roofing
we're
going
to
raise.
U
Put
new
stands
up
there,
raise
it
up
to
the
18
inch
minimum
requirement
for
the
condensing
units
that
are
going
in
place
for
not
only
the
new
units,
but
also
the
existing
units,
because
we
are
doing
a
new
roof.
We
and
again
this
is
condensing
units
that
will
be
piped
through
the
side
wall
to
a
mechanical
shaft.
That's
basically
just
beyond
that
last
condensing
unit
and
then
running
up
all
the
way
to
the
19th
floor
for
for
new
conditioned
air
in
the
corridors.
C
J
So
good
evening,
Commissioners
Ron
Villa
staff
for
the
historic
preservation.
It
was
a
pleasure
working
on
this
building
the
first
time
and
then
the
second
time
again
we
had
the
ability
to
go
on
site
and
and
had
a
tour
and
looking
at
the
conditions
firsthand
and
then
what
they're
proposing
today.
So
you
can
see
the
level
of
detail
of
the
presentation
as
this
comes
forward.
This
application
is
consistent
with
the
secretary
of
interior
standards,
whether
plans
that
we
reviewed,
usually
when
you
see
a
building
of
this
size,
you
go
through
an
Adaptive
reuse.
J
It
changes,
you
know
what
it
was
originally.
The
the
refreshing
item
here
today
is
that
it
is
stained.
It
was
a
hotel
and
stay
in
a
hotel.
The
interior
spaces
were
respected,
the
volumes
and
the
treatments
you
know
moving
forward.
This
is
part
one
they'll
work
with
us.
If
they've
un
uncover
anything
along
their
renovations,
if
we
could
handle
it
administratively
not
to
hold
up
the
project,
we'll
move
it
along
if
it's
a
substantial
fine
that
they
have
they'll
come
back
to
the
board
and
you
know
keep
you
involved
in
the
process.
H
I
do
have
a
technical
question,
am
I
correct
in
understanding
that
your
Tower
windows
are
going
to
be
repaired
and
then
fixed?
If
you
will
the
place,
they
will
not
be
operable
correct.
H
I'm
wondering
how
that
fits
within
a
number
of
different
guidelines.
First
of
all,
within
the
nature,
the
Secretary
of
the
Interior
standards,
you
know
we're
basically,
if
not
replacing,
renovating,
operable
window
units
into
a
non-operating
status,
no.
L
T
Jump
out,
but
we
will
not
be
allowed
in
the
Hilton
system
or
any
major
brand
system.
If
we
have
operable
Windows,
it
will
be
the
the
black
sheep
of
the
hotel
world,
because
if
someone
could
open
that
window,
can
you
imagine
a
child
getting
through
and
falling
out
and
I
know?
You
know
traditionally,
boards
like
this,
don't
want
to
take
the
position
of
you
have
to
make
them
operable
because
no
one
wants
to
put
their
name
on
that
order.
H
Okay,
understood
and,
of
course,
since
this
is
an
existing
condition
brought
to
us
from
a
before
peace
time,
I'm,
assuming
also
that
the
the
Fire
Marshals
also
have
their
blessing
on
that
as
a
general
concept.
L
H
Okay,
second
item
related
to
that
is
the
the
tower
windows
and,
of
course,
your
ground
level.
Storefronts
and
Specialty
window
types
are
those
going
to
be
renovated
in
place.
Are
you
going
to
pop
these
units
out,
replace
them
repair
them
as
necessary
and
pop
them
back
in.
H
But
you're
looking
at
referring
and
patching
repairing
elements.
C
G
G
Correct,
okay
are
any
of
the
Terracotta
units
being
replaced
with
Precast
or
gfrc.
K
We
are
sealing
once
we,
we
repoint
the
entire
building.
We
are
sealing
it
for
a
20-year
warranty.
U
G
Sealant
no
I'm,
referring
to
the
water
tables
and
The
Ledges
I,
believe
they're
terracotta
right
now,.
S
A
K
G
No,
no,
they
intend
to
use
the
clear
ceiling
on
the
masonry.
Brick
yeah
I
understand
that,
but
referring
to
the
Skyward
face,
terracotta
yeah.
K
K
G
T
U
Responsible
they're
bringing
they're
actually
bringing
their
superintendents
in
and
putting
them
up.
You
know
here
in
Tampa,
they're,
not
local,
but
they
are
coming
in
and
bringing
that
expertise
with
them
and
workers
with
them.
Obviously,
they're
going
to
subcontract
out
some
of
the
local
things
like
the
scaffolding.
Things
like
that
that
don't
have
anything
to
do
with
the
actual
work,
but
are
secondary
to
the
work
in
support
of.
G
Them
no
I
know
of
Western
I
know
they're.
Very
reputable
last
question
is
we're
not
really
part
of
this
discussion,
but
some
of
the
photos
indicated
deterioration
of
brick
tarakana
coping
stance
is
going
to
be
my
before
you
guys
mobilize.
Is
there
any
plan
to
install
overhead
protection,
sidewalk
sheds.
U
Overhead
protection-
that's
installed
right
now,
right
now,
yeah
on
Florida,
but
yeah.
That's
so
when
they
come
in
and
do
the
scaffolding
for
the
exterior
facade
renovation,
they're
gonna,
we're
gonna
concentrate
on
Cass,
Street
and
Florida
Avenue,
first,
obviously,
that
being
Main
and
Main,
but
then
they're
going
to
mobilize
around
to
the
The
North
Face
and
the
East
face
for
sort
of
a
phase
two,
but
but
yeah.
U
It's
important
that
that
the
the
first
thing
that
goes
up
is
going
to
be
the
the
scaffolding
for
the.
For
the
you
know:
pedestrian
protection,
okay,
another.
E
Hi
thanks
good
presentation.
I
had
a
couple
questions
the
inside
some
of
the
historic
photographs.
Some
of
those
the
wall
finishes,
appeared
either
textured
or
patterned,
or
something
and
I'm
not
sure
what
they
were
I,
don't
know
if
they
were
Venetian
plaster
or
something
else
like
that.
E
U
In
the
crystal
dining
room,.
L
Was
put
on
okay,
it
was,
it
was
just
a
plastered
column.
It
was
just
plain
and
Tony
markopolis
petitioned
to
have
to
clad
The
Columns
with
stone
which
was
denied,
and
so
he
decided
to
be.
You
know,
creative
and
and
put
fake
Stone
on
there.
E
To
have
his
own
put
Stone,
he
was
in
pain.
That's
that's.
What
happens
because
I
I
I
understand
have
was
there
any
even
in
the
original
restoration,
or
is
there
a
plan
now
for
any
investigation
to
find
out
what
was
under
that
plaster
that
you
found?
If
there
was
anything
if
there
was
another
original
material
that
had
been
plastered
over
since
the
20s.
L
They're
part
of
those
columns
were
bashed
out
when,
when
we
walked
into
the
hotel
and
I
believe
me,
I
I
walked
into
there
with
Tony.
For
the
very
first
time
we
got
the
keys
and
we
just
went
in
and
it
was
a
mess
and
I
will
tell
you
a
lot
of
the
columns.
Were
not
you
know
they
were
not.
The
surfaces
were
not
solid,
they
were,
you
know
there
had
been
many
years
of
abuse
and
and.
L
E
Was
I
was
just
wondering
if
the
investigation
had
been
done
because
they
right
typically
in
in
that
day
and
age
yeah
features
like
that,
would
get
a
special
finish
treatment.
It
would
be
so
you
know
I'm
not
going
to
say
it
was
gilded
or
or
anything
or
or
but
a
special
polished
plaster
or
something
that
had
a
little
more
and
I
didn't
know
if
I'm
just
asking.
If.
L
You
agree:
that's
why
that's
why
he
looked
at
it.
He
was
from
Greece,
so
he's
he
knows
something
about
history
and
historic,
but
he
was.
He
was
thinking,
it's
odd,
that
they
just
made
it.
You
know
this
plane,
but
that's
why
he
was.
He
was
petitioning
to
put
Stone
on
it,
because
that's
what
if
you're
Greek,
you
put
everything
yeah.
T
E
It
when
you're
raising
the
condensing
units
are
you
going
to
have
any
kind
of
a
line
of
sight,
study
done
to
make
sure
that
anything
that's
being
raised
is
not
going
to
become
much
more
visible
from
adjacent
buildings
or
the
street.
Are
they
going
are
some
of
those
units?
If
they're
going
to
be
raised,
are
they
going
to
be
pulled
back
further
away
from
the
parapet
to
to
eliminate
any
kind
of
a
line.
U
Of
science,
great
question,
so
the
only
place
that
really
applies
is
at
the
fourth
floor.
Roof.
Obviously
19
stories
in
here,
where
we're
not
going
to
see
that.
But
so
yes,
all
of
the
units
are
currently
on
the
inside
corner
of
the
okay,
so
guests
can
actually
see
it
which
isn't
great,
but
they
see
it,
but
you
can't
see
it
from
the
street
where
they
are
now.
U
There
is
one
unit
that
is,
that
is
sort
of
outbound
from
the
others
kind
of
a
rogue
unit
that
is
actually
going
to
be
moved
so.
U
U
E
Street
and
then
the
other
thing
I
had,
is
there
any
evidence
that
the
exterior
brick
has
ever
been
sealed
before.
U
I,
don't
I
I,
don't
think
so,
but
I
don't
know
for
sure
it
obviously
that
dissipates
over
time,
long
period
of
time,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
the
building
facade
is
in
its
current
state
is
not
protected
right.
E
E
T
This
will
be
we'll
make
sure
there's
a
pressurization
here,
so
it's
not
just
you
know
sealing
the
exterior.
This
is
all
going
to
be,
and
it's
reviewed
I
think
by
you
know
our
Engineers.
That's
me
pressurized
because
I
I
agree
with
you.
If
you
seal
it
too
tight
and
some
some
of
the
modern
buildings
have
this
problem,
you
see
what
too
Titan
actually
causes
condensation
on
the
inside.
But
in
my
experience,
if
you
pressurize
correctly,
it
creates
that
balance,
and
so
it
doesn't
create
that
condensation
issue.
C
Gas
I
have
a
follow-up
question
because
this
whole
three,
this
whole
train
was
something
I
was
going
to
ask
about.
Normally,
you
would
not
seal
brick
of
this
era
and
my
question
is:
do
you
have
a
building
science
group
on
your
team.
C
C
And
and
terracotta's
down,
yes,
the
the
issue
is
not
just
the
presence
pressurization.
If
you
seal
it,
you
can
get
into
a
situation
where
it
pops
the
bricks
off
it'll
break
your
mortar.
The
other
question
is:
has
an
intensive
study
been
done
of
the
different
mortars
on
the
building
to
understand?
Which
ones
are
the
original
and
appropriate
for
this
particular
building,
depending
on
your
mixture,
how
much
lime
or
not,
lime,
that
you
have
in
your
mixture?
You
can
also
cause
other
issues.
C
Thirdly,
investigation
of
all
your
Weeps
if
your
weeps
are
plugged
up
or
if
your
mortar
gets
reported
incorrectly
and
you
plug
your
weebs
you're,
going
to
have
more
issues
with
your
building
envelope.
So
that's.
Why
that
the
question
of
do
you?
Have
a
building
science
building
envelope,
specific
special
engineering
team
and
oftentimes?
They
include
mechanical
as
well
as
architectural
members
on
those
teams.
C
C
A
A
G
The
motor
and
the
brick,
especially
that
H,
is
designed
to
absorb
water
to
a
degree
like
a
sponge.
That's
the
design,
many
parts
of
the
country
and
historical
landmark
building
sealers,
are
not
allowed.
Even
though
the
specs,
the
data
data,
she
might
say,
it's
breedable,
it's
not
breathable
and
exactly
what
happens
is
when
Susan
says
it:
pops
out
either
the
brick
or
the
motor.
Now
regarding
the
motor.
G
If
that's
the
original
motor,
which
I
kind
of
doubt
that'll
be
type
O
motor,
which
is
softer,
you
guys
are
going
to
install
Type,
n,
I'm,
pretty
sure
the
motor
should
be
tested.
You
want
to
match
the
motor
Tire.
You
don't
want
the
motor
to
be
stronger
than
the
brick
right.
I
mean
these
are
major
major
concerns
and
having
an
engineer
on
record
that
has
that
I'm
surprised,
they'll,
specify
a
sealer,
a
clear
sealer.
You
might
think
you're
protecting
the
facade
you're,
not
it's
nearsighted
short
term.
G
C
In
fact,
not
knowing
what
happened
in
the
original,
the
prior
restoration
efforts,
it
could
have
been
some
incorrect
materials
in
that
case
that
have
led
to
some
of
the
issues
that
you're
facing
now.
But
it
would
be
the
recommendation
that
you
seek
out
a
specialty
team
member,
if
not
a
firm.
That
can
help
you
understand,
what's
going
on
with
the
building
envelope
from
a
historic
perspective
and
do
the
right
thing,
you're
spending
all
that
money
I
mean
it
seems
like
most
of
the
money
you're
going
to
put
is
in
the
envelope
so
spend
it
wisely.
T
I
I
think
that's
that's.
We
appreciate
him
putting
in
firms
you
have
dealt
with
in
the
past.
The
I
don't
think
there
was
much
restoration
to
that
facade.
I
mean
I.
I,
wouldn't
worry
about
too
many
in
inappropriate
materials
used
because
I
just
don't
think
anything
is
done.
You
don't
think
anything
even.
E
D
L
Q
L
Time
and
we
were
proposing
an
extruded
aluminum
which
would
look
like
wood,
but
be
you
know,
painted
because
it's
commercial
and
it
would
be
easier
to
maintain
and
the
commission
at
that
time
decided
that
that
was
not
appropriate
and
gave
us
the
option
of
using
wood
or
copper.
So
he
chose
wood
because
copper
was
astronomically.
B
L
So
anyway,
we,
that
is
why
we
have
what
we
have
right
now
and
but
they
were,
they
were
recreated
at
Great
pain,
believe
me
on
site
and
that
they
were
there
were
boards
on
those
openings
at
the
time
when.
E
L
E
L
No
actually
I
researched
it
at
the
time
for
the
prior
restoration
and
there
were
none.
The
city
has
none,
the
county
has
none.
I
I
searched
for
the
construction
documents
and
there
were
just
no.
F
L
The
the
only
signage
that
existed
was
on
that
we
know
of
because
the
you
know
as
you,
as
you
know,
when
you
look
for
historic
photos
and
I
went
to
John
F
Germany
Library,
and
you
know
several
days
in
a
row
and
went
through
all
their
historic
photos.
Looking
for
any
historic
photo
of
this
hotel
at
all-
and
you
know
you're
just
limited
to
what
you
can
find
I
will
see.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
find
the
facade
photos
there.
L
Okay,
so
here's
here's
one
where
they
had
signage,
you
will
see
is
on
a
window
next
to
the
street
there.
That
happens
to
be
I
believe
this
is.
Is
this.
L
Cast
that's
Cass
right,
yeah,
and,
and
so
we
have
been
warned
because
these
are
technically
in
the
right
of
way,
and
we
can't
have
signage
in
the
right
of
way,
and
there
was
some
signage.
There
was
some
signage
hang
on
on
canopies
and
I
can't
easily
find
them.
Let
me
see
if
I
have
them
in
the
historic
photos
of
the
of
the
old
structure.
L
Yes,
yes,
there
were,
there
was
a
blade
sign
which
we
have
a
banner
permit
to
put
at
the
corner
of
Kasson
Florida,
but
that's
something
that
would
be
overhanging
the
street
and
might
pose
some
sort
of
safety
risk.
L
C
C
C
L
But
what
I'm
saying
is
I
mean
it
would
abstract
views
from
the
you
know,
because
it's
it's
long,
you
know
sign,
it
would
obstruct
views
through
the
primary
view.
Corridor
from
the
hotel,
but
I
mean
yeah.
We've
got
permission.
It.
L
C
Really
hard
to
see
it
yeah
I'm,
so
sorry,
but
it
can't
project
more
than
three
or
four
feet
from
the
building
facade.
T
C
F
T
It's
both.
You
know
the
brand
requires
that
you
have
some
signs
on
the
front
of
your
hotel,
but
also
I.
Think
it's
just
you
know
prudent
to
have
some
identification.
Otherwise
people
will
drive
past
your
hotel
time
and
time
again
saying
where
in
God's
name
is
this
place,
so
we're
trying
to
find
the
most
tasteful
way
to
do
it
without
being
overbearing
without
making
it
the
main
focal
point.
L
Well,
also
from
a
standpoint
of
preservation,
you
know
the
hotel
anything
that
helps
it
be
successful,
helps
them
maintain
the
hotel.
So
obviously
we
want
people
to
know
how
to
how
to
do
business
with
the
hotel
because
we're
trying
to
keep
it
alive,
you
know
and
that
that
does
take
money.
If,
if
nobody
ever
goes
there,
then
it's
going
to
go
back
into
its
state
previously,
so
that's
I
mean
we.
We
thought
this
might
be
a
little
elegant
solution,
but
obviously
respect
your
expertise
so.
C
I
have
I
have
a
question
related
to
the
the
side,
the
the
walkways
on
Florida
and
Cass.
Is
there
any
work
that
you
think
you
might
do
at
this
time
to
the
actual
pavement
surface
areas.
T
Right
now,
no
we're
not
contemplating
I
mean
I,
guess
one
part
of
that
would
be
an
F
dot
solution
with
the
sidewalk
that
it
bought
Florida
Avenue,
so
I'm
not
really
sure,
even
where,
where
it
begin
there
really.
T
A
C
Come
up
as
problems
yeah,
okay,.
D
Since
that
is
not
historical
fabric
at
those
at
the
store
windows.
On
on
the
first
floor,
could
you
bring
back
well
I'd
like
to
force
you
to
bring
it
back,
but
that
wood
looks
horrible
and
it
was
not
would
that
anybody
would
have
used
in
1923
or
when
what
was
the
year
that
this
was
built.
Q
D
T
Know
it's
interesting
right
if
we
would
all
sit
in
a
room
and
figure
out
the
best
way
to
do
things.
We
may
have
come
up
with
different
solutions.
We
didn't
build
the
windows,
but
when
getting
actually
tax
credit
approval
from
shpo
and
national
parks.
Actually
the
opposite.
T
Comic
came
back,
which
is,
if
you
replace
the
doors,
make
sure
they're
wood,
because
we
came
back
with
steel
solutions
that
would
look
historic
that
could
be
reinforced
for
hurricanes,
stop
flooding
and
water
penetration
with
high
winds
and
things
that
were
very
practical
in
today's
world
and
that
was
scorned
upon
so
we're
kind
of
caught
in
between.
You
know
a
very
material
concession
that
we're
getting
historical
tax
credits
from
the
federal
level
and
what
they
want
that
probably
wouldn't
be
in
aligned
with
that.
T
E
C
C
The
question
that
is
bagged
here
is
whether
or
not
you
can
re
reconsider
the
the
installation
of
awnings
over
all
your
openings,
the.
L
The
issue
there
was,
you
know
we
we
applied
before
it
was
the
projection,
because
dot
objected
and
said
you
know.
We
can't
have
that
because
what
if
we
have
to
drive
a
truck
over
the
sidewalk
and
I,
said
well,
we'll
just
remove
the
awning,
then
just
let
us
know
no.
We
can't
have
that.
So
we
we
did.
We
actually
did
ask
about
that.
The
prior
owner,
not.
Q
L
So
you
know
this
is
this:
is
we're
again
buffeted
between
you
know,
nice
to
have
and
and
difficult
to
have
and
again
you've
got
the
hurricane
thing
and
all
the
you
know
other
things
that
people
get
concerned
about
on
a
practical
basis.
But
there
was
a
reason
why
the
so.
C
Then
the
other
question
is
because
it
then
follows
another
question
in
terms
of
your
Hardware
package.
If
you
were
working
with
a
hardware
consultant,
then
talk
about
rain
guards
and
things
like
that
that
can
help
protect
your
openings.
There
are
a
lot
of
things
on
the
market
today
that
you
can
hide
better
that
you
can.
You
can
get
certain
finishes
and
colors
that
help
meld
in
with
your
color
palette
and
your
material
choices,
but
provide
better
protection.
They're
going
to
protect.
C
A
C
C
E
Do
you
know
what
species
all
that
wood
storefront?
Is
it
didn't
look
in
very
good
condition
right
now
already.
L
E
It
doesn't,
it
doesn't
look
like
a
good,
you
know
mahogany
or
any
kind
of
wood
like
that
that
would
that
would
naturally
last
40
or
50
years.
You
know
with
a
clear
coating
or
a
stain.
You
may
want
to
investigate
that
yeah.
B
L
C
H
B
C
H
E
I
do
have
concerns
about
the
brick
ceiling,
which
you
know
in
40
40
Years
of
my
experience
and
60
years
of
my
Associates
at
the
office.
Experience
is
not
to
be
done
to
Historic,
brick
and,
of
course,
matching.
You
know
getting
the
right
sophomore
so
that
the
mortar
is
not
harder
than
the
brick
and
it
doesn't
create
bricks
falling
because
you
use
you
know
different
different
mortar.
H
G
C
G
E
No
no,
this
is
this
is
this
is
basically
my
understanding
is
this
is
saying
proceed
and
we
approve
of
what
you're
doing
and
yes
they're
going
to
have
to
deal
with.
Shippo
they're
gonna
have
to
deal
with
other
people
and
other
and
other
and
come
back
to
us
at
the
end
and
show
what
they
did
to
actually
get
the
final
to.
G
H
J
So
we're
looking
at
part
one
this
morning
or
this
evening
that
will
draw
upon
the
existing
condition
and
if
you
look
at
the
avalorum
process,
they
they're
features
and
the
features
were
discussed.
They
didn't
really
go
into
detail,
but
each
item
from
from
the
the
lower
bulkhead
to
to
the
windows
that
aren't
operable
things
that
nature
were
all
features.
J
They
give
you
the
description
of
the
existing
condition
and
then
they
give
you
the
proposal
of
what
they're
planning
to
doing
all
of
this
discussion
with
the
techniques
and
and
the
and
the
treatments
are
all
very
important
but
you're,
looking
at
a
more
Global
Approach
at
the
features
and
what
they
they've
showed.
I
worked
with
them
to
incorporate
the
historic
photos.
So
we
look
to
have
some
historic
photos.
We
looked
at
the
existing
condition
and
how
this
building
is
going
to
be
renovated
for
the
next
hundred
years.
J
J
C
D
D
T
Sorry
number
one
is:
you
know:
I
sincerely
ask
for
input,
because
we
will
come
back
to
you
and
ask
so
whether
it's
a
recommendation,
officially
or
not
I,
can
assure
you
that
I
don't
want
to
spend
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
and
have
bricks
pop
out.
That
scared
me
enough
that
I'm,
taking
your
your
input
very
seriously,
yeah
so
I
plan
to
work
with
Ron
and
you
can
get
information
from
you
and
we
can.
You
know
research
that
I
think
we'll
also
approach
Western.
Our
contractor
has
done
this
many
times.
T
It
would
I'd
be
surprised
if
they
don't
have
people
like
that
on
their
staff.
But
in
addition,
it's
always
good
to
have
you
know
a
third
party,
that's
not
the
people
doing
the
work
that
would
advise.
So
it's
my
plan
to
follow
up
and
pursue
this.
Whether
we
do
this
or
not
or
you
know,
it's
a
recommendation
officially
or
not
so
I
want
to
assure
you
that.
But
then,
commissioner
Myers,
if
you
have
a
question.
K
T
C
Other
questions
before
we
close
it
again,
sir,
you
do
have
five
more
minutes
for
the
bottle.
If
there's
anything
you
want
to
add
nope,
okay,
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
it
continue
discussing.
Thank
you
any
other
thoughts.
F
Done
all
I'll
add
is,
is
how
refreshing
it
was
to
have
a
group
come
in
front
of
us
that
you
know
I,
hear
passion,
I
hear
more
than
just
about
the
money.
You
know
they.
They
seem
to
really
love
what
they
do,
which
tells
me
that
any
recommendation
this
board
gives
or
staff
gives,
or
anyone
else
gives
for
that
matter,
they're
going
to
take
it
under
it's
very
serious
consideration.
I.
B
F
So
you
know
I
I
applaud
them,
because
this
is
probably
one
of
my
favorite
buildings.
It.
C
Is
it
is
a
landmark
in
the
true
sense
of
architectural
city
planning?
It
is
a
Mark.
It's
one
of
the
first
buildings
I
recognized
when
I
first
moved
to
Tampa
and
has
been
the
building
that
I
used
to
use
to
steer
through
town
before
all
the
other
Towers
got
built,
and
my
kids
used
to
point
it
out
when
they
were
kids,
when
they
were
little
so
I
applaud
you
and
your
your
entire
team
I
mean.
That
means
the
subs
that
are
actually
doing
the
work,
it's
great
to
see
it
as
I.
As
I
noted.