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A
A
A
A
B
Good
evening,
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
today,
Monday
March,
6
2023
public
hearing
for
the
city
of
Tampa's,
Architectural
Review
commission
welcome,
I
am
Susan.
Klausmith
I
am
the
chair
of
the
Council
of
the
commission,
sorry
and
I'm
also
an
architect.
If
you're
here
to
present
a
project,
you
will
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentations
somebody
suggests
being
thorough
but
concise.
When
coming
to
the
microphone,
you
will
need
to
identify
yourself
and
your
relationship
to
the
project.
B
The
Commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
presentation
and
your
project
should
be
presented
in
the
following
order:
the
site
plan,
the
elevations
architectural
details
and
wall
sections.
Our
staff
will
then
present
the
staff
report,
and
we
will
then
ask
for
public
comment
following
your
presentation.
The
Commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
your
presentation,
please
State
and
spell
your
name.
Clearly.
If
you
are
here
to
speak
for
or
against
a
project,
please
note
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
So
take
some
time
now.
B
To
summarize
your
comments,
because
three
minutes
goes
by
very
quickly
following
the
public
comment,
the
applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal
and
then
the
public
hearing
will
be
closed.
The
only
comments
which
we,
which
will
be
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
is
closed,
will
be
in
response
to
any
questions
from
the
commissioners.
B
Commissioners
will
then
discuss
the
case
and
will
make
their
decision
based
on
the
city
ordinance
specifically
the
chapter
27
of
the
City
Zoning
code,
the
design
guidelines,
the
Secretary
of
interior
standards,
historic
preservation,
development
review
or
HP
DRC
comments
and
the
testimony
given
at
the
public
hearing
here
tonight.
The
Arc
can
only
act
on
items
that
are
within
our
specific
jurisdictional
responsibility.
Owner
agents
are
independently
responsible
to
obtain
any
appropriate
permits
and
or
approvals.
B
B
F
Good
evening,
Commissioners
Dennis,
Fernandez
architecture,
review
and
historic
preservation
manager,
welcome
to
you
and
to
our
applicants
and
the
public
for
this
evening's
public
hearing.
We
do
have
a
fairly
full
agenda,
so
I'll
be
brief.
I
have
the
arc
staff
approvals
for
February
of
this
year
to
enter
under
the
record.
I'll
provide
those
to
the
clerk
for
you.
Additionally,
I
didn't
want
to
bring
to
your
attention
on
the
on
the
agendas
from
this
point
forward
under
item
number
10
for
this
month.
F
We'll
have
a
reminder
for
you
to
make
a
motion
to
receive
and
file
any
submitted
documents
and
Exhibits
provided
throughout
the
hearing,
unless
otherwise
instructed
by
your
legal
counsel.
That
would
avoid
you
making
incremental
motions
to
receive
and
file
through
the
hearing
and
with
that
I
will
turn
it
over
to
our
legal
counsel
for
the
disclose
disclosure
of
ex
parte
communication
and
conflicts
of
interest.
G
Good
evening,
Commissioners
Dana
Crosby
call
you
from
the
city
attorney's
office
this
evening,
I
needed
to
inquire
of
the
members.
If
any
member
has
a
conflict
of
interest
with
any
item
on
the
agenda
tonight,
thank
you
and
has
any
member
engaged
in
any
ex
parte
communication
relating
to
any
item
on
the
agenda
this
evening?
No,
no!
No.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
With
that
moving
on
through
the
agenda,
we
do
not
have
any
continuations
to
act
upon
this
evening.
This
is
going
to
be
the
only
hearing
for
the
month
of
March.
We
will
not
be
meeting
on
Wednesday
March,
the
8th.
It
is
not
necessary
for
our
application
cycle
this
month
with
that
we
will
administer
the
swearin
anyone
in
the
public
who's
going
to
be
providing
testimony
or
public
input.
Please
stain
and
raise
your
right
hand,
including
staff.
H
I
This
is
a
comprehensive
plan,
Amendment
recommendation
for
your
review.
This
is
for
the
property
located
at
2315,
2307
2303
and
2301
North
Florida,
Avenue,
2404
and
2406
East,
Amelia,
Avenue,
sorry,
204,
206,
East,
Amelia,
Avenue,
205,
207
and
209
East,
Columbus
Drive
and
the
Tampa
Heights
historic
district.
I
There
are
several
addresses
on
this
site.
However,
many
of
them
are
vacant
Parcels.
There
is
one
structure
at
209,
East
Columbus
Drive,
which
is
a
Circa
1956
non-contributing
structure
and
then
at
2
30
2315,
North,
Florida,
Avenue
and
2307
North
Florida
Avenue.
There
are
two
contributing
structures
to
the
historic
district:
those
are
on
the
corner
of
Columbus
Drive
and
Florida
Avenue.
I
I
Looking
at
the
1920s
Sanborn
map,
you
can
see
that
there
were
several
properties
along
the
Florida
Avenue
Corridor
built
out
of
brick
and
concrete,
and
additionally,
several
wood
frame
structures
as
well.
The
brick
and
concrete
structures
were
primarily
the
commercial
structures
along
that
Corridor.
At
that
time,
they're
mostly
one
and
two
story,
buildings.
I
You
notice
that
just
to
the
east
of
the
subject
site
are
more
some
residential
dwelling
units.
The
majority
of
the
area
east
of
the
septic
site
is
residential
in
nature,
and
you
also
see
the
proximity
of
what
was
then
called
the
Michigan
Avenue
grammar
school
along
Michigan
Avenue,
which
is
presently
known
as
Columbus
Drive.
I
And
then
zoomed
in
a
little
bit,
these
are
the
individual
Parcels
that
compose
that
site.
You
see
the
two
contributing
the
two
Parcels
with
the
contributing
structures
at
that
corner
there
at
the
southeast
corner
of
Florida
and
Columbus,
and
then
the
non-contributing
structure
on
the
the
Eastern
edge
of
the
site.
I
Moving
around
the
property,
this
is
the
view
looking
into
the
site
from
Amelia
Emilia
Avenue
at
2200,
204,
East,
simulator,
Avenue
and
then
at
206
East,
Camilla
Avenue,
facing
north
moving
to
the
Columbus
Drive
side
of
the
property,
and
this
is
looking
at
the
non-contributing
buildings
facing
south
from
Columbus
moving
a
little
bit
to
the
West
there.
This
is
207
East,
Columbus,
Drive,
we're
facing
south
and
then
205
East
Columbus
Drive
facing
south.
I
This
is
a
view
of
one
of
the
contributing
structures
in
the
area
at
the
for
caddy
corner
on
the
northwest
side
of
Florida
Avenue
and
Columbus
Drive.
I
I
And
still
facing
north
here
as
the
the
property
is
on
the
north
side
of
the
subject
site.
I
And
facing
south
from
the
subject
site,
this
is
looking
across
the
Amelia
Avenue
and
still
looking
South
across
Amelia
Avenue
there's
an
alley
in
the
middle
of
the
site
behind
running
behind
the
contributing
historic
structures.
Here
we
are
in
the
alley
facing
north,
so
we're
looking
towards
Columbus
Drive
here
and
then
turning
and
facing
south.
I
I
J
Good
evening,
Commissioners
Alex
Shaler
400
North
Ashley
Drive
for
the
record
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
and
with
a
comprehensive
plan
map
amendment
in
the
Tampa
Heights
historic
district
Elaine
set
this
up
really
well
with
Ariels
in
the
in
the
photo.
So
just
you
know
to
reaffirm
we're
at
the
southeast
corner
of
Florida
and
Columbus.
As
you
can
see,
our
Parcels
there
outlined
in
pink
and
then
the
historic
district
Foundry
is
shown
in
that
yellow
dotted
line
there.
J
So
our
specific
request
tonight-
or
this
is
our
request
for
this
filed
comprehensive
plan
Amendment,
as
you
can
see
currently
at
cc35
and
R20,
are
the
land
use
designations
on
the
site.
We
are
proposing
to
change
that
to
umu
60
along
the
major
roadway
frontages
of
Florida
and
Columbus,
and
then
CMU
35
along
Amelia,
which
transitions
nicely
into
that
R20
to
the
east
in
the
rest
of
the
residential.
In
that
current
neighborhood
in
terms
of
numbers,
cc35
and
CMU
35
is
a
1.0.
J
Far
for
a
baseline
can
bonus
up
to
a
two
umu
60
is
the
next
mixed-use
land
use
category
just
above
CMU
and
cc35
I'm,
just
one
step
above
that's
a
2.5
base.
Far
in
a
3.25
with
bonus,
we
believe
there's
inherent
justification
for
this
request
and
the
Planning
Commission
did
as
well
and
I'll
note
that
in
a
little
bit
on
a
different
slide.
But
the
first
point
that
I
wanted
to
make
is
that
this
assemblage
is
located
directly
off
of
Columbus
Drive,
which
is
noted
in
the
comprehensive
plan
to
be
a
Transit
emphasis.
J
Corridor
I'm
the
comprehensive
plan
defines
a
trans
and
emphasis
Corridor
as
a
corridor
that
is
not
only
suitable
for
redevelopment,
but
also
for
intensification
and
beyond
that.
The
site
also
fronts
an
arterial
roadway
in
the
city,
which
is
North,
Florida
Avenue
in
Florida
avids
and
the
subject
of
a
potential
extension
of
the
streetcar
as
well.
So
lots
of
lots
of
Transit
surrounding
this
specific
assemblage.
J
The
next
point
I
wanted
to
highlight
is
that
the
site
is
entirely
within
the
Tampa
Heights
Urban
Village.
Again
the
comprehensive
plan
category
or
comprehensive
plan
similar
to
the
transit
emphasis.
Corridor
has
a
host
of
policies
that
support
directing
growth
to
the
urban
Villages
within
the
city.
As
you
can
see,
that's
that's
the
most
notable
one
they
are
directing
the
greatest
share
of
growth
to
the
urban
centers
and
The
Villages.
J
The
Planning
Commission
heard
this
request
and
unanimously
voted
to
recommend
it
for
approval
that
was
back
in
November
of
2022
to
the
end
of
last
year
and
I
wanted
to
pause
here
as
I
move
forward
and
kind
of
tailor.
This
more.
You
know
to
your
specific
recommendation
tonight
and
just
state
that
you
know
the
Planning
Commission
is
a
is
a
reviewing
body
that
provides
a
recommendation.
The
Arc,
you
all
do
the
same
review
and
provide
a
recommendation.
J
We
feel
that
there
are
many
historic
district
safeguards
Beyond
just
a
future
land
use
change
that
you
will
have
the
opportunity
to
review
this
project
again
so
again.
Tonight.
All
we're
requesting
is
a
recommendation
for
a
land
use,
change,
there's
three
different
processes,
as
this
development
would
continue,
which
would
render
your
feedback,
and
the
first
would
be
whenever
there
is
a
proposed
specific
development
on
this
site.
J
It
will
come
back
before
you
as
We
Are
Tonight,
with
a
proposed
development
intent,
that
is
where
you'll
be
able
to
recommend
the
actual
rezoning
and
the
specific
development
as
you'll,
see
on
a
site
plan
and
control
things
like
setback
and
massing
and
stuff
like
that.
Also,
there
has
to
be
the
approval
of
a
COA
for
any
kind
of
proposed
demolition
to
take
place
on
the
site
same
thing
with
any
proposed
development.
J
They
would
need
a
COA
for
those
specific
designs
for
the
facade
kind
of
undulations
and
stuff
stuff,
like
that
that
you
all
are
more
often
recommending
on
so
again,
you
know
the
powers
and
the
duties
that
say,
and
we
understand
that
that
you
know
your
review
is
to
preserve
historical
Integrity
in
the
appearance.
Again,
a
change
in
the
future
land
use
has
no
effect
on
the
historical
Integrity
of
the
site
or
the
appearance
of
the
site.
J
States
today,
again,
is
it's
just,
namely
a
change
to
the
actual
designation
in
terms
of
land
use
on
the
site
and
I'd
like
to
bring
up
Philip
Smith
as
well.
This
is
the
end
of
my
presentation
to
say
a
couple:
words
he's
a
developer
and
is
local
to
this
area
and
I.
Think
you'd
like
to
share
a
few
words
with
you
all.
K
Thank
you
Alex.
My
name
is
Philip
Smith
1211,
Northwest,
Shore
Boulevard
in
Tampa
and
the
president
of
framework
group.
We
are
housing
developers
based
here
in
Tampa.
We
have
about
10
developments,
we've
completed
here
and
and
currently
2
000
units
or
so
under
Development
and
Construction
around
the
state,
principally
in
the
I-4
corridor.
But
I
wanted
to
introduce
myself
as
a
developer
to
this
project
tonight,
to
tell
you
just
generally
our
posture
about
our
intent
to
work
with
you
on
this
development.
K
We
know
very
well
the
the
strains
that
are
put
on
cities
I'm
a
tampanian
so
on
our
city
in
particular,
and
that
come
that
come
with
growth
that
come
with
the
is
this
amazing
place
that
we've
all
created
together
and
that
tension
is
something
that
the
folks
on
this
board
have
to
resolve,
because
we
have
valuable
things
already
in
place.
I
want
you
to
know
that
I'm
educated
as
an
architect.
My
degrees
are
an
architecture.
K
So
I
come
to
this
discussion
very
with
great
empathy
for
what
it
is
you're
trying
to
do,
and
your
mission
here
and
a
great
sensitivity
to
creating
buildings
that
fit
so
it
will
be
our
intent
to
try
to
find
ways
to
strike
that
balance
between
the
growth
that
is
inevitable
and
that
should
and
does
belong
in
corridors
like
Florida
Avenue.
This
commercial
Corridor
is
not
going
anywhere.
K
It
is
only
going
to
get
more
dense
and
that's
appropriate
because
that's
how
we
grow
in
smart
ways,
putting
people
where
Transit
exists,
where
infrastructure
exists,
where
they
can
get
close
to
where
their
jobs
and
favorite
restaurants
are
stylistically,
there's
much
to
learn
from
what's
around
here
and
we
look
forward
to
pulling
what's
valuable
out
of
this
and
and
and
making
it
the
historic
building
that
our
future
residents
will
know
us
for.
So
thank
you
again.
I
look
forward
to
working
with
all
of
you,
some
of
you.
K
B
We
still
go
through
the
staff
report.
Correct.
I
Yeah
before
I
give
the
staff
report
for
the
architecture
review.
Commission
staff
we
have
Representatives
here
from
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
city's
planning
department
and
I
would
like
to
invite
them
to
come
forward
at
this
time
to
give
a
presentation
an
overview
of
the
request
to
seen
from
their
View.
B
L
Okay,
so
it's
privately
initiated
amendment
has
been
stated:
it's
1.97
acres
in
size
and
the
request
is
to
amend
the
future
land
use
categories
for
from
Community
commercial
35
to
in
residential
35
to
Urban
mixed
use,
60
along
the
corridors,
and
then
Community
makes
use
35
as
well,
and
this
is
just
the
general
location
map
has
been
stated.
It's
within
the
in
Urban
Village
and
also
within
the
Tampa
Heights
neighborhood
as
well,
and
just
the
general
location.
L
L
This
is
the
single
family
detached
homes
that
are
to
the
east
of
the
subject
site
along
North,
Morgan
Avenue-
and
this
is
the
proposed.
This
is
the
adopted
future
land
use
map.
You
can
see
the
community
commercial
35,
that
is
along
the
corridors
of
North
Florida
Avenue
and
Columbus
Drive,
and
the
residential
35
to
the
south
side
of
the
site
along
the
Amelia
Avenue.
L
L
Currently,
the
site-
this
is
what
the
site
would
be
allowed
on.
The
right
on
the
left
is
the
46
dwelling
units
is
what
it
could
possibly
have,
as
well
as
slightly
over
114
000
square
feet
of
non-residential
or
residential
uses,
with
the
changes
of
the
future
land
use
categories
on
the
right
is
the
potential
where
it
could
have
up
to
228
dwelling
units
and
over
186.
L
We
send
this
out
for
agency
review
and
the
City
of
Staff
pattern.
Objection
and
Planning
Commission
staff
found
it
consistent
with
policies
regarding
the
development
of
mixed-use
areas
in
all
districts
that
can
accommodate
local
serving
commercial,
employment
and
entertainment
uses
increased
density
to
support,
walking
and
Transit
uses
within
proximity
to
employment
in
transit
to
further
the
compact
study
strategy
form
and
the
comprehensive
plan
seeks
to
direct
the
greatest
show
share
of
growth
to
the
urban
Villages,
and
we
also
found
it
consistent
with
future
commercial
or
mixed
use.
L
Development
will
be
required
to
meet
the
Land
Development
code
and
Associated
comprehensive
plan
policies
at
the
time
of
review.
An
additional
level
of
scrutiny
due
to
the
Tampa
Heights
local
historic
district
and
the
Planning
Commission
recommended
that
the
proposed
amendment
be
found
consistent
with
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
Tampa
comprehensive
plan.
And
that
concludes
our
presentation.
I
We
have
with
us
a
representative
from
our
City's
planning
department,
Stephen
Benson,
good.
M
Evening
Stephen
Benson,
director
of
City
Planning
I,
did
just
want
to
elaborate
a
little
bit
on
our
analysis
and
looking
at
this
comprehensive
plan
Amendment
and
clarify
the
objection
that
City
staff
issued
for
for
the
amendment.
The
comprehensive
plan
amendment
was
specifically
looking
at
the
consistency
of
the
amendment
with
the
existing
future
land
use
map
and
the
existing
policies.
In
the
plan.
It
was
not
specific
to
the
historic
designation
or
the
historic
preservation
guidelines
that
exist
for
this
area.
M
The
objection
that
that
staff
produced
was
primarily
related
to
the
introduction
of
the
additional
commercial
intensive
uses
which
would
be
now
permitted
under
the
future
land
use,
however,
to
actually
build
and
introduce
those
uses,
a
rezoning
would
be
required,
so
it
would
come
back
before
you
would
come
back
before
City
Council
in
the
form
of
rezoning.
It
could
be
dealt
with
at
that
time.
The
other
question
that
came
up
was
the
introduction
of
the
additional
density
and
the
additional.
M
Far
at
this
site,
you
can
see
that
the
the
location
was
unique
relative
to
the
land
uses
around
it
and
looking
at
similar,
planned
amendments
that
have
recently
been
approved
going
to
the
umu60
designation.
There
were
a
number
of
amendments
throughout
the
city.
Specifically,
I
can
cite
a
couple
in
the
Ybor
City
area
that
did
use
the
umu
60
within
the
historic
context.
M
So,
while
we
did
have
an
objection
based
upon
the
introduction
of
the
additional
uses,
we
do
think
that
that
land
use
category
is
compatible
because
of
the
nature
of
Florida
Avenue,
being
a
Transit
emphasis,
Corridor
and
a
corridor.
That's
been
identified
specifically
for
bus,
rapid
transit
in
the
future
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
about
our
review
and
thank
you
for
your
consideration.
I
There
are
two
contributed
instructors
on
the
site
that
should
be
maintained
and
any
future
development
on
the
site
should
be
historically
referenced
from
within
the
district,
both
in
height
and
building
placement
as
such
a
higher
density,
since
the
project
is
on
the
edge
of
the
district,
a
higher
density
than
what
you
would
find
within
it
may
be
appropriate,
but
the
final
project
should
respect
the
contributing
structures
on
the
site
in
the
residential
neighborhood
to
the
east.
I
So
our
staff
recommendation
is
for
a
change
in
the
future
land
use,
but
to
a
less
intense
category
than
the
proposed
umu
60
category,
which
is
the
the
urban
mixed-juced
60
category
and
with
that
I'm
available.
If
you
have
questions.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
So
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
open
the
hearing
to
public
comment.
If
there
is
anyone
here
who
would
like
to
speak
before
or
against
the
recommendation
before
us
here
tonight,
you
may
do
so
at
this
time
and
again
you
have
three
minutes
seeing
the
one
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
Commissioners
asking
questions,
and
we
will
ask
questions
of
both
the
applicant
and
City
staff
as
appropriate,
Mr
Myers.
Any
questions
at
this
time.
E
Just
to
get
started
Elaine
can
you
tell
me
which
of
the
buildings
are,
are
contributing
I'm?
Sorry,
I
didn't
get
the
numbers
down,
so
is
it
the
red
building?
Yes,.
B
E
Correct
okay,
thank
you.
B
B
B
If
we
could
go
to
back
to
her
presentation,
there
was
a
slide
where
you
were
delineating.
The
differences
between
the
land
uses
both
the
the
adopted
and
the
proposed,
and
it
was
a
chart
it
compared
the
maximum
dwelling
and
the
fars
this
one
here,
I
guess
it
wasn't
really
a
chart.
So
there's
an
inconsistency
from
what
I'm,
seeing
in
your
presentation
to
what
we
were
given
in
our
packages
and
it's
it's
a
pretty
big
inconsistency.
B
It's
the
difference
between
the
dwelling
unit
allowances
and
I
I
when
I
was
reading
this
before
I
thought.
This
was
not
such
a
a
big
difference
in
terms
of
the
number
of
dwelling
units
that
were
possible
in
the
proposed
versus
the
adopted
for
the
cc35
to
the
um60.
But
here
on
this
on
this
slide,
it
says
it
has
the
potential
for
over
228
dwelling
units
in
the
proposed
and
in
our
packet
there's
no
more
than
49
or
79
stated
in
either
of
the
scenarios
that
we
had
been
given
presented.
B
So
how
do
we
get
to
this
number
228
possible
dwelling
units
in
the
potential
future
land
use
change?
Is
that
through
a
calculation
bonus
or.
B
B
B
L
Can
you
see
the
proposed
future
land
use
map?
Yes,
okay,
so
that
chart
the
the
one
that
cc35
to
Urban
makes
you
60..
That
chart
applies
to
these
Parcels
that
are
changing
right.
That
would
be
changing
to
umu
60..
L
B
N
So
Danny
Collins.
B
I'm,
sorry,
it's
the
third.
The
one
under
figure
two
figure
three
table
is
that
actually
all
the
parcels
together,
because
that
says
101
dwelling
and
it
says
community,
cc35
and
residential
35
and
then
proposed
umu
60
and
CMU
35.
N
Is
Danny
Collins
with
your
planet?
Commission
staff
I
can
chime
in
here,
so
the
numbers
on
the
slide
are
incorrect.
I
would
go
off
of
the
numbers
on
that
are
included
in
your
packet
Okay.
So
so,
if
you
look
at
figure
three,
that
is
the
combined
combine
change
of
change
in
the
CC
from
the
community,
commercial
35
and
the
residential
35
to
the
urban
mixed
juice
60
and
the
community
mixed
juice,
35,
designation,
okay,.
B
So
I
have
a
further
question:
I,
don't
know
who
would
answer
this
it
could
be,
it
could
be.
The
agent
is,
is
any
of
the
proposed
changes
for
future
land
use?
Does
that
have
any?
B
Does
that
have
any
impact
on
the
potential
height
of
anything,
or
is
that
just
under
the
zoning
changes
when
we
get
to
that
component
of
the
project?
Should
we
get
there.
E
E
So
this
seems
to
be
like
a
very
substantial
increase
and
I'm
wondering
what
the
and
our
own
staff
has
has
recommended
that
it
change
is
certainly
possible,
but
to
a
lesser
category,
and
you
are
also
of
that
of
that
mind.
We.
M
We
did
not
recommend
a
lesser
category
from
the
perspective
of
all
of
the
policies
and
all
of
the
provisions
in
the
comprehensive
plan
which
historic
preservation
is
a
part
of
it,
but
it's
much
broader
than
that.
So
our
review
is
a
lot
broader
I
I
would
just
offer,
maybe
that
looking
at
it
solely
through
the
historic
preservation
lens,
perhaps
a
different
conclusion
could
be
reached.
E
D
Relate
related
to
that,
sir
and
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
pass
this
information.
This
question
on
to
the
applicant
as
well
is
there
what
is
the
working
logic
for
going
into
the
area
of
a
change
in
the
comprehensive
plan
for
the
City
of
Tampa?
Respecting
the
development
of
this
combined
parcel,
as
opposed
to
what
we
more
would
normally
would
see
here
would
be
a
plan
unit,
development.
M
So
just
I'm
going
to
start,
and
perhaps
one
of
my
Planning
Commission
colleagues
could
speak
to
maybe
the
whole
the
review
process
for
plan
amendments,
but
this
would
be
just
the
first
step,
so
this
project,
most
likely,
would
come
back
to
you
as
a
plan.
Development
with
site
plans,
which,
with
actual
information
to
visual
information
to
look
at
the
approval
that
is
being
requested,
is
solely
to
address
three
things.
M
It's
the
uses
on
the
site
to
expand
the
potential
uses
that
that
may
be
asked
for
at
a
rezoning
to
expand
the
amount
of
floor
area
that
may
be
asked
for
at
a
rezoning
and
then
to
expand
the
allowable
density.
That
could
be
asked
for
at
a
resume
and
that's
why
those
are
the
three
pieces
of
information
in
the
chart.
That's
that's
being
shown.
That
is
what
is
is
being
considered
with
the
plan
Amendment.
M
And
the
the
range
of
allowable
usage-
oh
yes,
and
you
know
just
to
be
clear
there.
The
existing
zoning
does
not
allow
for
for
any
of
those
things,
so
they
would
have
to
come
and
rezone,
but
it
would
be
up
to
the
applicant
to
determine
if
they
would
want
to
rezone
to
a
euclidean
district
or
rezone
to
a
PD
and
then
I
believe
you
would
see
it
at
that
point
and
then
you
would
also
see
it
again
at
for
the
certificate.
N
Yeah
I
just
want
to
chime
in
this
is
a
change
to
the
Future
land
use.
This
is
not
a
zoning
request,
so
this
is
just
a
straight
land
use
change,
so
you're
you're,
looking
at
the
existing
land
uses
and
the
densities
intensities,
so
the
density
in
the
far
and
then
what
is
being
proposed
under
the
new
land
land
use,
as
Stephen
mentioned,
any
zoning
would
need
to
be
consistent
with
the
future
land
uses.
N
So
you're
saying
that
currently
the
they
would
need
to
come
in
for
a
rezoning
to
develop
this
site,
so
you
will
see
it
again
later
on
if
it
does
come
in
through
a
rezoning.
This
is
just
you're
looking
at
the
land
uses
of
the
site.
So
it's
a
long-range
plan
for
the
area.
B
That
actually
and
I
don't
know
who's
going
to
answer
this,
that
that
would
it
would
be
hugely
beneficial,
I
think
to
those
of
us
who
are
up
here
and
those
in
the
audience
who
don't
do
this
in
their
everyday
job,
to
understand
the
difference
between
the
CMU
land
use
and
the
Urban
mixed
use.
What
what
kinds
of
uses
are
actually
allowed
right
because
currently,
under
the
the
current
adopted,
meaning
it's
whatever
developments
would
happen
without
this
change,
they
would
come
under
the
cc35
and
the
R35
on
these
particular
Parcels
right.
B
N
So,
starting
with
the
cc35
anything
from
multi-family
commercial,
General
commercial
intensive
uses
same
those
uses
are
the
same
as
the
umu
60
designation.
So
the
umu
60
allows
for
the
same
uses
as
the
cc35.
The
CMU
35
allows.
N
The
only
use
that
doesn't
allow
other
than
those
two,
those
two
flu
categories
is
the
commercial
intensive
uses
So
currently
or
currently,
the
portions
of
the
site
in
CMU
35
cannot
be
considered
for
commercial
intensive
uses.
N
M
Yeah,
just
I
think
I
understand
what
what
you're
trying
to
get
at
so
the
there
is
not
a
higher
plan
category
that
doesn't
introduce
the
commercial
intensive
uses
and
by
higher
I
mean
more
intense
and
more
dense
and
I.
Think
the
bulk
of
the
intent
behind
the
request
is
really
to
achieve
the
additional
units
and
the
additional
floor
area
on
the
site,
then
what
would
not
currently
be
allowed,
so
there
is
no
other
option
to
get
the
additional
density
intensity.
M
Besides
this,
this
is
the
this.
Is
the
next
bump
up
really
in
in
the
way
that
the
categories
are
structured,
I
think
it
might
be
helpful
to
hear
from
the
applicant
too
about
their
intent,
but
we
just
we
only
look
at
the
category
specifically.
E
Yeah
I
make
a
request
about
the
far
is
the
floor
area
ratio.
Yes,
sir,
and
under
the
under
the
the
new
or
the
proposed
designation,
they
could
basically
cover
the
entire
site.
Three
floors
is
that
I
mean
it's.
A
3.25
am
I
getting
that
right.
So.
M
Three
times
not
the
entire
site,
I
believe
if
we
can
go
maybe
to
the
map
see
here-
and
this
is
difficult
to
see
and
Danny
may
want
to
also
chime
in
here
too,
but
the
colors
are
very
similar.
I
know
the
map,
it
looks
like
they're
the
same
color,
but
the
urban
mixed
u60
is
for
the
portions
that
are
fronting
Florida
and
Columbus,
and
this
community
mixed
use.
35
is
for
the
portion,
that's
essentially
east
of
the
alley
and
then
south
of
the
parcels
that
are
front
in
Columbus
and
I
know.
M
The
shades
are
very
similar
but
they're
two
different
uses,
so
the
answer
would
be
no,
it
would
be
the
reaching
a
3.25
would
just
be
for
the
parcels
along
Florida
and
Columbus
both
sides
and
then
Community
mixtures.
35
is
a
2.0.
Okay,.
D
Yeah
I'd
like
to
follow
through
please
for
our
education.
We
have
a
number
of
figures
in
the
packet
that
was
given
to
us.
One
is
figure
number
three:
it
is
titled
City
of
Tampa
existing
land
use
and
I'd
like
to
have
some
comparison
made.
If
you
will
please
to
figure
number
four,
which
is
titled
City
of
Tampa
adopted
2040,
future
land
use.
D
Because
I
do
understand
the
proposed
not
to
propose,
but
the
adopted
land
of
2014
future
land
use
is
tailored
for
the
Redevelopment
of
high
traffic
Corridor
area
Pathways
as
as
they're
being
planned
throughout
the
city.
So
that
can
make
some
sense
now,
but
is
that
is
that
figure
for
ineffective
now?
So.
M
The
existing
land
use
and
the
future
land
use
are
not
based
upon
the
same
types
of
categories
and
they
carry
different
they're
they're
different
from
from
a
legal
perspective.
The
future
land
use
is
similar
to
zoning.
It's
a
separate
layer
that
establishes
categories
with
the
three
items
that
I
mentioned:
that's
required
by
state
law
to
be
part
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
The
existing
land
use
is
the
description
of
how
the
site
is
currently
being
used
correct.
So
it
isn't
it.
M
It
also
reflects
what
might
be
non-conforming
on
the
map
as
well,
whereas
the
future
land
use
map
is
is
what's
currently
adopted,
so
I
can
I
can
provide
you
with
the
comparison
between
the
existing.
M
I
can
yeah.
We
can
explain
that
what
the
difference
would
be
and
so
for
for
the
Adaptive
future
land
use
under
cc35,
the
and-
and
this
is
based
upon
the
zoning
districts
that
are
permitted
in
this
category.
That's
what
we
compare
is
the
underlying
zoning
under
the
current
future
land
use,
the
the
adopted
future
land
use
and
then
the
zoning
districts
that
are
allowed
under
the
proposed
future
land
use
because
there's
multiple
layers
and
the
zoning
has
to
be
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
M
Future
land
use
map
and
I
apologize
for
being
so
long-winded,
but
we're
trying
to
not
kind
of
drag
it
all
out,
but
so
right
now
the
zoning
districts
that
first
first
of
all,
the
zoning
that
is
permitted
on
that
is
currently
on
the
site,
is
cc35
commercial
or
a
cc35
and
I'm.
Sorry,
commercial
intensive
is
already
existing
on
the
site
on
the
parcels
that
are
front
in
Columbus
and
Florida
and
then
residential
multi-family
24
is
what's
in
the
back,
where
the
neighborhood,
you
know
worry
about
the
neighborhood.
M
The
zoning
districts
that
are
allowed
in
the
current
future
land
use
the
adopted
future
land
use
is
all
of
the
residential
single
family
districts,
all
of
the
residential
multi-family
districts,
residential
office,
Office,
Professional,
neighborhood,
commercial,
commercial,
General,
commercial,
intensive
and
then
plan
development
and
plan
development
alternative
for
the
R35
portion,
so
back
where
the
neighbor
in
the
back,
where
the
neighborhood
butts
for
those
Parcels
again
residential
single
family,
residential
multi-family,
up
to
the
residential
multi-family
24
category.
M
M
M
The
the
same
zoning
districts
as
umu
60
and
the
umu60
and
cc35
would
allow
the
same
Zone
Industries
with
the
addition
of
rm35
rm50,
so
some
of
the
higher
multi-family
districts,
as
well
as,
let's
see
commercial
intensive,
so
you
would
get
some
of
the
higher
multi-family
districts,
but
the
commercial
intensive
uses,
which
would
be
things
like
you
know,
potentially
Auto,
Repair,
Lots
or
dry
cleaners
like
it's.
It's
those
more
intensive
commercial
uses
that
you
wouldn't
necessarily
find
in
the
middle
of
a
neighborhood.
M
That's
what
would
be
introduced
with
the
commercial
intensive,
but
again
with
the
current
zoning.
Those
uses
cannot
be
introduced.
You
have
to
go
back
to
rezoning
to
even
introduce
those
uses
which
you
would
see
again
at
the
PD
stage.
That's
why
we
can't
really
provide
I
think
as
much
detail
as
you
would
like
now,
because
we
don't
know
what
the
actual
project
is
that's
being
proposed,
all
we
have
are
what's
allowed
under
the
feature,
land
use
map.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
N
Sure
Danny
Collins
with
your
planet,
commission
staff.
Unfortunately
this
is
the
only
we
can't
zoom
it
out
too
far,
but
I
can
kind
of
go
over
the
surrounding
area
with
you.
So
this
right
here
on
your
map
is
the
community
community
commercial,
35,
designation.
N
So
development
up
to
35
joins
an
acre
up
to
a
2.0,
far
commercial
General
commercial
intensive
uses
as
well
as
multi-family
uses,
so
that
Community
commercial
35
is
predominantly
found
along
North,
Florida,
Avenue,
directly
north
of
the
site,
and
also
north
of
the
site
on
Columbus.
N
This
tan
orangish
color
is
is
a
residential,
10,
future
Landings
designation,
so
that
allows
single-family
development
residential
development
up
to
10
billions
per
acre.
It
allows
to
allow
us
detach
single
family
uses,
as
well
as
the
consideration
of
limited
town
homes
and
single-family
attached.
This
brownish
color
and
is
is
a
residential
35.
N
So
it's
a
medium
density,
residential
land
use
category
allows
multi
or
residential
development
up
to
35
doing
this
an
acre
loss
of
considerations
of
single-family
uses
as
well
as
multi-family
uses
this
and
I
apologize
I'm
really
about
colors.
This
area,
this
September
12.
this
area
over
here
is
residential
20..
N
It
allows
single-family
residential
as
well
as
multifamily,
up
to
20
dwellings,
an
acre
and
then
this
area
over
here
on
East
Columbus
is
community
mixed
use,
35
and
that's
again
that
allows
development
up
to
35
joints
an
acre
up
to
a
2.0,
far
multi-family
commercial
General,
as
well
as
single
family,
uses
on
the
site
and
I.
Think
that
covers
everything
in
this
map.
M
There
was
a
plain
amendment
in
that
area
that
I
think
might
have
come
before
you
that
involved
an
increase
up
to
umu
60.,
and
there
also
was
a
plan
amendment
in
the
nuccio
parkway
area
of
of
Ybor
City,
which
should
not
come
before
you,
but
is
another
it's
it's
the
nearest,
maybe
to
the
southeast
and
then
I'm,
not
aware
of
anything
in
the
immediate
vicinity.
M
The
the
other
area
that
was
specifically
planned
for
umu
60
and
has
a
lot
of
a
continuous
amount
of
umu
60
would
be
the
Kennedy
Boulevard
corridor
from
downtown
to
Westshore.
All
of
that
is
the
urban
mixed,
u60
designation.
So
if
you're
familiar
with
the
type
of
development
and
the
scale
of
jail
in
those
areas
or
what's
being
proposed
in
those
areas,
that's
what
would
be
comparable
would
be
permitted
that
intensity
and
that
density
in
this
location.
So.
P
Give
me
kissers
Tyler
Hudson,
400
North
Ashley
Drive,
immediately
two
blocks
to
the
west
of
the
site,
which
is
that's
the
southwest
corner
of
Columbus
and
Tampa.
It's
currently
the
gold
ring
Cafe
that
entire
block
was
approved
by
Tampa
City
Council
for
umu
60,
and
that's.
This
is
at
the
edge
of
the
historic
district.
What's
before
you
this
evening,
that
is
not
in
the
historic
district,
but
that
is
proximate.
It's
it's
the
site
you
have
here.
P
If
you're,
if
you're
sort
of
looking
up
from
the
sky
and
up
is
North,
you
have
the
block
that
we're
talking
about.
Today,
you
have
the
Joe
Hoskins
Family
Dollar
Block
in
the
middle,
which
will
absolutely
come
before
you
at
some
point
for
some
type
of
densification,
and
then
you
have
that
gold
ring
big
billboard
block
to
the
West
that
has
already
been
approved
for
for
umu
60.
P
Tyler
Hudson
for
the
record,
this
little
section
of
Columbus
is
a
little
bit
challenging
because
portions
of
it
are
actually
owned
by
the
county.
There
are
some
some
Capital
Improvement
projects
and
the
the
city
has
not
I
can't
speak
exactly
to
the
funding
and
the
timing,
but
I
think
Columbus
is
intended
for
some.
Some
roadway
improvements.
B
P
P
B
M
Is
owned
by
the
county,
so
we
can't
necessarily
speak
to
their
CIP,
but
the
city
did
coordinate
with
the
county
for
the
resurfacing
of
Columbus
Drive,
which
has
been
needed
for
for
quite
some
time,
and
it
is
on
their
list
of
projects
that
will
be
incorporated
into
CIP
when
additional,
when
the
next
round
of
funding
is,
is
added.
The
planning
for
that
did
already
start
as
part
of
the
preliminary
work
done
in
anticipation
of
the
surtax
that
was
approved
for
transportation.
So
as
part
of
that
process.
M
Looking
at
what
could
be
done
to
improve
Columbus
Drive,
when
it's
going
to
be
resurfaced,
there
were
additional
crosswalks
proposed
and
additional
Lane
modifications
for
pedestrian
safety
and
for
bicycle
safety
for
the
four-lane
section
from
Howard
Avenue
to
the
Terminus,
around
North
Boulevard,
and
then
from
North
Boulevard
East.
There
were
going
to
be
additional
crosswalks
proposed
and
I
believe
that
was
actually
going
to
go
all
the
way
towards
the
towards
Central
Avenue,
but
but
you're
correct.
It
would
end
somewhere
around
this
area.
I,
don't
know
that
there
were
like
specific
improvements.
M
M
The
area
on
the
dog
track
up
to
Fowler
and
then
turn
right
on
Fowler
and
connect
to
the
university
area.
Transfer
Center.
That
was
the
scope
of
that
project
and
it
would
be
a
dedicated
Lane
with
stations
and
there
would
be
a
station
in
the
Columbus
Drive
area
as
part
of
the
land
use
planning
work
that
sort
of
went
along
with
that.
We
looked
at
the
station
areas
for
major
transfers
along
the
Route
and
and
sort
of
suggested
contemplated.
M
What
appropriate
densities
and
intensities
would
be,
and
they're
obviously
a
lot
more
intense
than
what
we
would
probably
recommend
if
that
project
wasn't
in
this
area,
so
because
those
changes
and
that
study
has
not
necessarily
come
to
a
final
conclusion
and
come
to
city
council
with
recommendations
all
we
have
for
you
is
what
has
been
contemplated
thus
far.
M
It's
not
necessarily
reflecting
that
on
the
land
use
map
yet,
but
we
are
currently
working
with
the
Planning
Commission
to
do
a
more
substantive
update
to
the
comprehensive
plan,
and
these
are
one
of
the
areas
that
we're
going
to
focus
on
to
actually
look
at
map
changes.
So
then,
when
this
comes
back
before
you,
this
may
not
be
the
only
purple
area
that
you
see
along
Florida,
Avenue,.
M
Was
for
the
comprehensive
plan
for
for
the
analysis
that
my
staff
did,
but
that
was
why
I
spoke
to
sort
of
at
the
beginning,
the
scope
of
which
we
review
things.
It
sort
of
we
try
to
balance
all
of
the
different
goals
and
objectives
to
to
make
a
recommendation
about
what's
in
the
best
interest
for
the
community
overall,
and
so
historic
preservation
is
important.
M
C
Correct
so
that
kind
of
leads
into
the
next
question
I
had
this
looks
to
be
like
a
pocket
land
use
currently,
so
my
question
is:
is
historically
what
has
been
the
planning
department
stance,
own
pocket,
Parcels
like
this
within
the
area
we.
M
We
so
historically,
staff
has
objected
to
situations
that
are
on
Enclave
or
spot
rezonings.
That's
why
there
was
an
objective
that
was
put
forward
by
the
zoning
staff,
because
it
would
it
triggered
that
looking
at
it
solely
from
a
zoning
and
land
use
perspective.
But
if
you
look
at
Transportation,
if
you
look
at,
for
example,
the
residential
that
the
housing
crisis
that
we're
in
right
now
and
where
it
makes
sense
to
actually
incorporate
more
housing
than
maybe
we
had
anticipated
for
that
kind
of
tips.
M
E
I
O
P
Tyler
Hudson
for
the
record
I
think
these
comprehensive
plan,
Amendment
recommendation
hearings,
put
you
on
a
little
bit
of
a
challenging
position
because
you're
accustomed
to
seeing
very
specific
details
on
proposed
buildings.
Even
at
the
beginning
of
this
meeting,
it
was
you
know,
site
plan
elevations.
We
don't
have
any
of
that,
because
this
is
somewhat
theoretical
of
an
exercise.
The
comprehensive
plan
and
excuse
this
metaphor,
but
I've
got
a
four-year-old
daughter
who
loves
Play-Doh.
The
comprehensive
plan
really
gives
land
the
development
rights
the
amount
of
stuff
you
can
build.
It's.
J
P
A
P
P
You
that's
a
recommendation
of
it
like
this
one
is,
there
will
be
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
that
will
come
before
you
for
what
any
new
building
looks
like
where
you
all
don't
have
recommendation
Authority,
you
have
approval
Authority,
you
get
to
say
with
grade
specificity,
how
you
want
the
building
to
look
like
what
we're
asking
for
here
is
the
opportunity
to
build
a
little
bit
more
than
you
can
now
for
some
reasons
that
are
outside
the
scope
of
this
specific
hearing.
This
is
an
exceptionally
challenging
development
site.
P
I
live
a
block,
and
a
half
from
here
lived
there
for
eight
years
through
three
kids.
This
has
had
zero
interest
from
the
development.
Community
I
really
do
the
last
I'd
say
six
months,
and
my
client
is
not
the
first
person
to
try
to
take
a
run
at
this.
There's
some
significant
challenges.
There's
a
thousand
square
foot
City
piece
of
land.
It's
shaped
like
a
splinter.
It
sort
of
functions
as
a
splinter
for
the
development.
We've
had
significant
conversations
with
City
real
estate
about
that
it's
a
challenging
site,
but
we're
growing
as
a
city.
P
We
need
to
find
places
to
accommodate
greater
density
and
I
can
think
of
a
few
better
candidates
as
a
land
parcel
than
this,
because
it's
at
the
intersection
of
two
arterial
roads,
you
have
the
heart
route.
One
goes
through
here.
That's
15,
minute,
Transit
service
by
Tampa
standards.
That's
phenomenal!
That's
the
best
that
that
we
have
it's
very
bikable.
It's
very
walkable
and
the
city
is
directing
a
lot
of
infrastructure
investment
with
the
scarce
resources
it
has
to
this
area.
P
You
are
going
to
get
to
weigh
in
on
the
Mass
on
the
height
on
the
uses
on
the
parking
on
the
Green
Space,
all
of
that
through
the
zoning
and
if
we're
able
to
get
through
that
with
you
and
the
city
council
you're,
going
to
have
a
very
good
opportunity
to
go
into
the
detail
of
the
design
about
what
that
looks
like
what
we're
asking
today
is
for
you
to.
Let
us
come
before
you
with
that
detail
with
that
plan.
But
to
do
that,
we
do
need
some
more
development
rights.
We
need
some.
P
We
need
the
ability
to
do
a
little
bit
more
than
what
you're
currently
allowed
to
do.
We
think
it's
reasonable.
We
think
the
Planning
Commission
likewise
found
it
reasonable
with
their
unanimous
vote,
and
would
ask
that
you
recommend
this
for
approval
to
city
council
this
evening.
Thanks
for
your
time
and
your
patience.
E
E
But
through
the
conversation
here,
I
have
developed
a
fair
amount
of
comfort
when
the
floor
area
ratio
for
those
for
those
Parcels
which
face
either
Columbus
or
Florida,
is
set
at
three
and
then
the
floor
area.
Ratio
for
the
portion
that
faces
along
Amelia
to
the
east
of
the
alley
is
set
at
two
I
think
that
we
are
that
our
approval
would
would
be
acceptable
would
be
acceptable
to.
E
D
Am
very
much
concerned
about
the
potential
matter
of
if
you
will
opening
up
a
Pandora's
Box
of
respect
to
this
proposed
change
in
the
comprehensive
plan,
because
we
have
to
remember
here
one.
The
the
proposed
change
is
even
beyond
what
the
city
of
Tampa
has
already
contemplating
for
this
general
area.
There
are
adopted
2040
future
land
use
plan,
so
you
know
this
this
board
in
the
past.
D
C
C
That
was
where
my
line
of
questioning
came
from,
because
that's
basically
my
same
concern
is
you
potentially
it
starts
with
one
again
again
I.
You
know
I'm
not
trying
to
look
into
the
future,
but
I
was
looking
at
that
future
land
use
that
is
already
adopted
and
now
we're
looking
to
change
it
to
meet
the
requirements
of
whatever
this
potential
development
is,
and
the
density
is
quite
more.
C
It's
it's
quite
a
bit
more
than
what
is
currently
being
able
to
be
used
today,
and
so,
when
you
know
that
was
one
of
the
questions
I
had
was
you
know
what
is
the
closest
area
to
this?
That
is
you're
able
to
have
this
same
sort
of
land
use,
and
it
sounds
like
it's.
You
know
at
least
a
couple
to
a
few
blocks
away.
It's.
C
You
know
for
us,
as
well
as
the
potential
developer
and
the
city
for
that
matter,
because
you
do
have
a
parcel
here
that
will
sit
vacant
until
someone
can
figure
out
how
to
make
use
of
it.
E
E
I,
don't
think
I
don't
think
that
a
vacant
parcel
now
someone
could
come
along
depending
on
our
decision
here
and
say:
oh
yes,
I
can
do
that
without
having
to
do
a
PUD,
and
so
we're
just
going
to
do
this,
but
I
think
that
it
that
they,
the
development,
is
being
driven
by
greater
densities.
You
know
development
and
the
good
of
the
city
really
are
being
driven
by
these
increases
in
in
density.
I.
E
Don't
think
that
the
the
density
is
out
of
line
at
this
point
and
we
will
we
will
be
seeing
it
again.
E
And
much
of
the
surrounding
area
is
protected
by
the
resturgence
of
the
historic
district
and
just
looking
at
this.
The
percentage
of
it
that
is,
that
is
covered
by
those
two
commercial
buildings
is
maybe
25
or
30
percent
and
those
buildings.
E
B
So
I
have
reservations.
I,
I'm
I
am
in
the
camp
of
I
understand,
certainly
where
we
are
as
a
nation
and
as
a
municipality
and
a
region
and
struggles
everywhere
in
terms
of
finding
attainable,
not
just
affordable,
attainable
housing
and
understanding.
That
density
is
important
to
attain
a
particular
point
of
Roi
on
investment
right
and
how
all
those
things
have
to
come
together
and
work
and
and
make
a
development.
B
Function
for
all
the
parties
involved,
cities
counties
private
developer.
All
of
that,
but
I
do
think
it
opens
up
a
can
of
worms
to
allow
a
more
intensive,
dense
development
and
by
changing
the
adopted
to
the
proposed,
which
was
done
by
private.
It
was
initialized
by
the
private
sector,
not
by
the
city
or
any
other
government
benefactor.
B
I
think
there
are
other
properties
and
Parcels
within
the
city
surrounding
the
urban
core
that
are
much
more
appropriate
for
the
the
denser
land
uses.
I
think
if
we
were
just
talking
about,
maybe
the
CM,
the
too
many
papers
so
I'm
losing
track
of
where
I
am
the
CMU.
B
35
I'd
be
more
supportive,
but
the
60
is
just
throwing
me
for
a
loop
and
when
I
look
at
the
I
look
at
the
the
notes
that
in
either
scenario
the
developer
the
owner
can
take
either
the
far
or
the
either
the
density
or
the
far
as
their
calculation
method
is
concerning,
because
it
does
allow,
depending
on
the
zoning
that
initially
is,
you
know,
allowed
for
each
parcel
or
each
component
of
the
of
the
property
that
is
held.
B
So
I
think
anything
that
we
can
do
to
sort
of
keep
the
historic,
Fabric
and
nature
of
community,
and
that
means
as
a
village
and
included
in
that
I
find
it
interesting.
You
know
that
we
do
have
these
Urban
Villages
targeted
within
the
comprehensive
plan
and
when
I
think
of
the
village,
it's
a
three
to
five
story,
really
beautiful,
walkable
neighborhood
and
when
I,
when
I
start
to
see
the
the
intensity
of
this
use,
it's
more
like
what
I
Envision
Channelside
to
be-
and
this
is
not
that
part
of
the
city
I
live
here
too.
B
B
B
You
know
on
one
hand,
I
wanna
I
want
to
support
the
growth
of
ours.
Today,
I
want
to
be
able
to
see
projects
move
forward
that
might
be
able
to
integrate
options
for
multiple
classes
in
the
socio
and
economic
stress
that
we
have
here
in
the
city,
but
the
historic
district,
especially
our
our
entryways,
into
historic,
district
or
very
important
I,
think
to
holding
together
some
sort
of
fabric.
D
I
agree,
I,
agree
very
much.
You
know
towards
that
end.
I
I,
you
know,
although
the
adopted
2040
plan
offers
in
its
own
right
a
certain
degree
of
density
greater
than
what
we
would
normally
expect
within
the
heart
of
of
this
District
I
do
see
that
as
being
an
appropriate.
You
know
departure
point
for
where
you
can
build
a
modulated
density
between
what
is
a
high
traffic
or
a
high
density
commercial
core
that
surrounds
this.
This
this
pocket
and
are
more
intimate
core,
which
is
the
neighborhood
in
itself.
C
It's
almost
double
and.
B
C
So
being
we
have
it
back
open
based
on
that
explanation,
I
did
some
numbers
while
ago
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding.
This
correctly,
if
the
average
residence
was
2,
000
square
foot,
that's
139
units,
that's
correct.
Okay,
it's
a
lot
of
density
and
a
2
000
square
foot
unit.
I
think
we
could
all
probably
agree
that
that's
probably
a
large
unit
for
a
development
like
this,
so
we
could
potentially
see
220
units
240
units
at
a
thousand
square
foot.
C
P
Tolerance,
I,
don't
think
we
have
any
further
I
think!
Yes,
it's
a
tough
call.
B
B
Appropriate
that
there
is
more
density
we
are,
we
are
talking
about
the
opportunities
here
for
the
city,
for
the
community
at
Large
and
even
from
the
historic
district
to
re-enliving
an
edge
right.
It
is
right
on
the
cusp
of
tipping
over
and
really
becoming
that
next
jumping
point
for
interest
and
development,
but
we
have
to
be
really
careful.
This
is
not
Armature
Works.
This
is
not.
B
B
B
But
setting
that
precedent
within
the
historic
district
is
the
thing
that
I
really
am
cautious
about.
If
this
wasn't
in
the
historic
district,
maybe
it's
a
different
conversation,
but
just
knowing
that
Community
how
walkable
it
can
be
given
the
right
opportunities,
it's
going
to
be
fantastic.
B
Isn't
the
only
thing
that
makes
a
community
successful
for
walkable,
livable
and
economically
affordable
public
transportation?
Is
a
huge
component
of
that
and
I
will
argue
any
day
with
any
planner
anywhere,
and
that
was
why
I
was
having
the
I
was
asking
the
questions
I
was
asking,
is
there's
and
there's
nothing
set
in
stone.
Yet
we've
we've
heard
I've
lived
here
for
30
something
years,
I've.
A
B
Hearing
the
same
conversations
about
light
rail,
rapid
bus,
you
know
even
the
bullet
train
and
we
just
don't
seem
to
be
able
to
get
that
through
anybody's
had
that
unless
we
get
those
components
right,
doesn't
how
doesn't
matter
how
many
units
we
put
in?
If
we
don't
put
the
right
units
in
at
the
right
place
with
the
right
public
transportation
support,
it
doesn't
work
and
a
lot
of
people
are
left
out
in
the
cold.
B
And
I've
had
to
take
public
transportation
in
the
city.
I
did
not
have
a
car
until
I
was
28.,
but
anyway
are
we
ready
to
entertain
emotion
or
do
we
need
to
discuss
anything
further.
D
C
S
B
B
I
This
property
is
home
to
a
Circa
1928
contributing
single-family
residents,
and
the
request
this
evening
is
two-part.
The
first
request
you
will
hear
is
for
the
variants
on
the
North
side
yard,
and
if
that
variance
is
approved
by
this
board,
you
will
hear
the
certificate
of
appropriate
request,
appropriateness,
request
for
new
construction
of
an
addition
to
the
primary
structure
and
the
new
construction
of
an
accessory
structure
with
site
improvements.
I
I
I
I
I
Then
we
have
the
alley
which
runs
north
to
south
behind
the
subject
site.
This
is
looking
North
in
the
site,
so
the
commercial
structures
along
Florida
to
your
left
and
the
subject-
sides
to
your
right
and
then
this
is
in
the
alley,
looking
South
toward
Paris
and
then
this
is
a
view
of
the
commercial
property
just
on
the
other
side
of
the
alley.
I
S
Good
evening
my
name
is
Alan
Dobbs
with
Florida
Design
Studio
I'm
the
agent
on
this
project.
My
client
Spencer
is
here
him
and
his
wife
on
this
property
on
the
projector
here.
This
is
the
site
and
the
reason
that
we're
needing
to
get
this,
the
variance,
is
there's
an
odd
reconfiguration
of
the
property
line
here.
S
S
That
modification
to
the
property
was
done
before
my
clients
purchased
it.
It
was
actually
done
by
an
attorney
that
owned
the
property
to
the
north.
Previously,
don't
know
how
it
was
approved,
because
normally
those
kind
of
odd
lot
reconfigurations
are
not
allowed,
but
regardless
it
it
happened
and
I'm
not
sure.
S
If
my
client
has
been
working
with
his
adjacent
property
owner
to
see,
maybe
if
they
could
get
that
back,
there's
no
reason
for
it:
there's
no
building
or
structures
here,
which
I'll
show
you
in
the
site
plan
that
goes
out
a
little
bit
further
than
this
one,
but
anyway
so
foreign.
S
S
They
basically
want
to
add
a
master
suite
and
a
bedroom
bathroom.
It's
a
larger
living
area
and
a
new
larger
kitchen.
That's
probably
the
most
popular
thing
that
people
do
to
these
older
homes
in
Summer,
Heights,
and
previously
people
lived
in
the
front
of
the
houses.
Now
they
live
in
the
backs
of
these
editions
are
always
towards
the
back
and
creating
a
larger
or
sort
of
living
space,
typically,
a
great
room
that
has
a
kitchen,
dining
and
living,
which
is
what
we
are
proposing.
S
Also,
when
you're
adding
to
the
back
of
the
house
we're
limited
on
how
far
we
can
go
back,
we
do
have
a
rear
yard
setback,
but
because
of
the
lot
you
know
we
want
to
conserve
Green
Space,
so
that
we
don't
go
over
50,
lock
coverage
and
we
want
to
keep
the
addition
as
compact
as
possible.
But
in
this
case
it
just
wasn't
possible
with
the
with
the
programmed
activity
that
we
were
that
were
proposing
the
so
I
talked
about
the
survey.
So
I'll
show
you
the
the
site
plan
I
mean.
S
Excuse
me
the
floor
plan
so
that
you
can
see
that
kind
of
helps
justify.
Why
we're
needing
to
get
this
variance.
S
This
is
the
site
plan
that
shows
it
a
little
bit
further
that
there's
the
adjacent
building
you
can
see
even
with
the
addition
we're
more
than
22
feet
away
from
the
building
and
we're
in
the
we're
more
than
eight
feet
from
the
original
Planet
property
line.
So
this
space
is
configured
like
that,
because.
S
Of
the
floor
plan
the
there
is
the
second
floor,
Edition
and
I'll
get
to
that
when
we
get
to
the
TA
portion,
but
the
second
floor
Edition
is
within
the
the
original
width
of
the
house,
but
for
the
space
you
need
for
a
family
room,
a
dining
area
and
a
kitchen.
It's
it's.
You
know
it
requires
about
this
much
space.
We
are
projecting
out
a
little
bit
more
on
this
side,
Than
This
original,
but
we're
still
well
with
the
inside
yard
setbacks,
and
also
we
wanted
to
have
a
side
entry
here.
S
So
we
can't
do
that
within
two
feet.
We
had
to
pump
it
out
a
little
bit
further
and
the
masking
here
is
separated,
but
that
sort
of
speaks
to
why
we're
going
out
that
far
again,
if
that
buff
out
wasn't
there,
we
would
not
need
this
variance.
S
S
The
first
one
is
related
to
the
hardships
being
unique
from
singular.
As
I
mentioned,
the
original
platted
lot
line
was
modified
in
an
unconventional
manner
when
the
adjacent
property
to
the
north
was
annexed,
approximately
80
by
three
and
a
half
feet
of
the
petitioner's
original
planning
lot.
This
created
an
unconventional
jog
property
line
configuration
that's,
typically
not
allowed
and
created
a
hardship
for
any
future
development
of
this
property
per
chapter,
27,
27-11
and
I'm,
quoting
here
no
division
or
reconfiguration
of
an
existing
zoning
lot
or
a
lot
of
record
may
occur.
S
That
is
in
a
configuration
which
is
patently
inconsistent
with
existing
lot
development
orientation
and
historical
precedent
pattern
of
parcel
configuration
in
the
neighborhood.
The
second
one
is
relating
to
it
being
a
self-created
hardship.
Well,
obviously,
this
was
the
way
the
property
was
when
my
clients
purchased
it.
The
third
one
is,
the
variance
will
not
if
granted
will
not
substantially
interfere
or
injure
the
health,
safety
and
Welfare
of
others.
S
As
I
mentioned
this,
this
Edition
is
more
than
22
feet,
away
from
the
closest
adjacent
residential
structure
on
the
North
property
line
and
I.
Believe
that's
one
of
the
people
that
issued
a
letter
of
support
of
this,
the
variances
and
with
Harmony
and
serves
a
general
intent
and
purpose
of
this
chapter
and
adopted
Tampa
comprehensive,
planned.
S
S
Substantial
Justice
will
be
done
by
allowing
for
the
hardships
and
practical
difficulties
to
be
addressed,
and
then,
of
course,
the
last
one
is
relating
to
development
being
consistent
with
the
design,
stat
standards
and
historic
patterns
of
development.
S
My
response
to
that
is
the
proposed
Edition
meets
all
the
requirements
of
the
Seminole
Heights
design,
guidelines
and
Secretary
of
interior
standards
for
modification
to
contributing
structure
in
the
historic
district
scale,
massing
setbacks,
orientation,
site
coverage,
alignment
Rhythm
and
spacing
are
all
especially
important
to
their
considerations
for
a
project
like
this,
considering
the
existing
design
constraints
and
the
historic
patterns
of
development.
Sorry,
that
was
a
little
wordy,
but
anyway,
so
that
that
will
conclude
my
portion
of
the
for
the
variance.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
So,
in
the
case
of
the
variants,
we
do
not
have
staff
report.
Is
there
anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
for
or
against
the
variance
request
portion
of
this
case
here
tonight?
C
T
No,
there
has
not
been
with
this
particular
neighbor.
She
just
moved
in
recently
in
the
last
several
months,
but
she's,
one
of
the
ones
that
wrote
the
letter
of
support,
but
as
far
as
purchasing
the
land.
No,
it's
not
been
a
discussion.
Okay,.
C
And
then
my
next
question
will
be
for
you
Mr
Dobbs.
You
showed
us
the
floor
plan
which
I
understand
the
concept
there
but
looks
like
what
we're
looking
for
here
is
about
two
and
a
half
feet.
Was
there
any
configuration
with
death
floor
plan,
making
it
a
little
smaller?
So
you
did
not
have
to
ask
for
this
variant.
T
S
S
This
there's
a
certain
ideal,
you
know
sizes
of
spaces,
and
things
like
that.
Certainly
you
know
this
house
is
modest
size.
These
rooms
are
relatively
modest
the
we
could
if
we
did
shrink
this
back,
it
would
just
make
it
less
functional,
but
we
were
we
were.
We
were
figuring
since
this
encroachment
into
the
air.
S
That's
the
only
reason
we're
requesting
this
variance
that
you
know
it
seems
like
it's
a
reasonable
request
because
most
of
the
houses
and
the
neighbors
sorry
I'm
rambling,
a
little
bit
most
of
the
houses
in
the
neighborhood,
have
setbacks
of
seven
feet
or
so,
and
they're,
usually
right
in
that
area.
So
I
think
by
having
this
building
not
being
able
to
project
out,
as
we
show
it,
it
sort
of
creates
sort
of
an
inconsistent
pattern
where
the
building
is
actually
further
from
the
property
line.
That
is
typical.
S
This
building
is
already
a
little
bit
further
over
this
way
as
it
is,
but
anyway,
so
that's
that's
why
we're
requesting
this
variance?
Thank
you.
That's.
B
E
I
just
find
this
to
be
really
odd
and
I.
Does
the
fence
follow
the
new
property
line,
or
does
it
follow
the
old
property
line
I
mean
is.
S
It
it
appears
on
the
survey
that
the
beside
the
survey
under
as
an
underlay
there
that
it,
the
defense,
does
follow
the
the
current
property
line,
not
the
plotted
property.
E
S
S
You
know
what
had
happened
and
trying
to
find
our
contact.
Information
I
found
out
that
she
was
an
attorney
so
so
somehow
she
was
probably
able
to
write
a
modification
to
the
both
properties.
Deeds,
that
included
this
portion
of
the
property,
but
I,
don't
know
how
it
got
approved
through
the
city
of
Tampa,
but
it
might
not
have
ever
gone
through
any
kind
of
approval.
It
might
just
been
handled
through
the
attorneys
I
guess.
A
B
S
S
B
Okay,
we
have
1436
000
square
feet.
Yeah
1436
square
feet
noted
on
the
our
cheat
sheet,
so
it
is
a
much
different
number.
What
was
that
number
again?
Three.
B
B
S
S
S
Is
please
remember,
numbers
might
have
been
adjusted
a
little
bit,
but.
B
F
B
S
B
B
B
E
Sorry,
Mr
Dodd,
so
the
actual
in
order
for
you
not
to
need
to
request
a
variance,
you
would
have
to
make
the
combined
kitchen
dining
family
area
40
square
feet
smaller.
Is
that
correct,
16
feet
wide
and
approximately
two
and
a
half
feet?
Yes.
S
S
U
I
think
commissioner
Myers
asked
to
ask
the
very
good
question.
Was
his
last
question
as
to
actually
how
much
the
addition
would
shrink
if
the
variance
was
not
granted,
and
is
that
a
hardship
that
that
variance
is
called
for?
There's.
D
Think
I
I
think
it's
a
shame
that
that
your
client
has
inherited
a
site
with
an
oddball
property
line.
It
would
be
wonderful
to
see
if
that
could
ever
get
resolved.
That
I
see
this
as
being
a
very
substantial
and
substantive
to
the
addition
and
and
why
it
could
not
be
planned
suitably
to
fall
within
the
confines
of
the
current
setbacks
required
for
this
site
eludes
me
here.
C
Well,
that's
what
I
was
going
to
say
was
I
keep
going
back
to
the
hardship
list
and
that's
really
what
we're
hearing.
This
is
what
we
have
to
make
our
our
ruling.
All
he
may
not
have
created
the
landline,
but
the
addition
is
being
created
by
their
design,
correct
and
so
I
see
multiple
other
scenarios
play
out
here
that
he
still
could
potentially
achieve
what
he's
trying
to
achieve,
whether
it
be
purchase
of
the
land,
whether
it
be
producing
the
size
of
a
plan.
There's
a
multitude
of
things
here
you
can
do
so.
C
I
I
heard
that
the
hardship
wasn't
being
created
which
again
the
land
line
is
not,
but
the
actual
Edition
is
and
that's
where
I
keep
backing
into.
It
is
an
unfortunate
circumstance
for
sure
granted
this
Odd
Lot,
but
unfortunately,
he
can
make
he
his
family
can
make
several
decisions
here.
That
would
still
work
within
the
constraints
of
what
we
have
here
for
the
site
plan.
D
D
I'm,
sorry,
it's
it
it!
It
doesn't
dwell
on
me
as
as
a
kind
of
a
hardship
where,
let's
say
the
bill,
the
original
building
is
on
in
an
entirely
Oddball
place
within
it's
like.
Maybe
even
you
know,
contravening
it's.
J
D
Supposed,
no,
we
just
have
I
think
a
proposal
in
front
of
us
that
just
bumps
into
and
just
exceeds
the
existing
limitation
without
going
through
an
exercise
of
trying
to
resolve
itself
in
one
form
or
another.
D
U
With
a
with
an
encroachment
of
of
two
and
a
half
feet
with
two
feet
for
Eaves
and
gutters,
be
denied
due
to
the
failure
of
the
petition
to
meet
the
burden
of
proof.
With
regard
to
the
six
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27-114,
D
of
the
city
of
Tampa
code
of
ordinance,
specifically
that
the
hardship
is
not
created
by
the
property.
It's
created
by
the
design
of
the
Edition
I'll.
B
Are
we
good,
okay,
all
in
favor,
please
State
aye
and
indicate
somebody
raising
your
hand
all.
A
F
Commissioners,
based
on
that
motion,
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
will
need
to
be
continued
in
consultation
with
the
agent.
We
do
have
some
room
on
the
April
3rd
agenda
at
5,
30,
PM,
I,
think
that
should
be
the
preferred
request
at
this
moment
for
both
the
garage
and
the
addition
to
the
primary
structure.
U
I'll
move
that
the
to
continue
the
case
of
Arc
23-119
for
the
property
located
at
6102.
B
P
H
A
A
A
A
A
A
B
Well,
actually,
Mr
Gila,
sorry,
good.
H
H
Zoning
is
RS
60..
Under
the
rs60
zoning
classification,
an
accessory
structure
can
be
up
to
900
square
foot
as
long
as
it
meets
the
the
setbacks
established
by
zoning.
H
The
structure
that
you're
going
to
see
today
is
at
approximately
740
square
feet,
along
with
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
new
construction
for
an
accessory
structure
with
site
improvements.
There
are
three
variances
attached
to
it.
We
do
have
John
Marsh
with
transportation.
To
answer
any
questions
when
that
portion
comes
up,
the
variance
information
hardship
is
attached
to
your
staff
report,
it's
at
the
back,
so
you
could
follow
along.
H
H
I
usually
start
with
a
1929
Sanborn
map.
I
think
was
very
important
to
to
look
at
the
Sanborn
map.
A
portion
of
this
parcel
was
sold
off
to
the
neighbor.
As
you
look
at
the
Sanborn
map,
you
see,
the
the
primary
structure
is
shifted
over
to
one
side.
This
would
be
the
West.
You
see
the
accessory
structures
in
the
back.
One
is
the
accessory
structure
that
is
delegated
to
the
property
in
question.
H
H
The
primary
structure,
so
you
get
an
understanding
of
the
vocabulary.
Looking
at
the
budding
house
that
shares
a
common
property
line
to
the
West,
then
moving
down
the
vehicular
access,
they
share
a
common
apron.
This
is
the
property
in
question.
You
see
the
situation
here
and
how
the
flare
dog
legs
to
the
accessory
structure.
H
This
is
looking
back
from
the
site
back
towards
the
street,
which
is
Marjorie
and
just
further
down
the
site.
Looking
at
the
two
accessory
structures,
they
both
seem
to
be
the
accessory
structures
that
were
shown
on
the
Sanborn
map.
This
one
is
non-contributing,
so
it
can
be
removed
administratively
and
reconstructed.
H
I
took
a
series
of
Street
shots.
This
is
a
street
that
comes
off
a
Howard
which
is
a
commercial
Corridor.
There
is
no
parallel
parking
along
any
section
from
Howard
to
Albany,
so
they
don't
have
the
ability
to
park
on
the
street
like
some
of
their
neighbors
within
the
Hyde
Park
Community
do
so.
This
is
in
the
other
direction.
H
S
Good
evening
I'm
Alan
Dobbs,
with
Florida
Design
Studio
I'm,
the
agent
on
this
project.
My
clients
recently
has
has
been
wife.
They
recently
purchased
this
property
and
realized
that
they
needed
to
address
several
issues,
obviously
relating
mostly
to
vehicular
access
and
vehicle
storage,
which
is
basically
resulting
in
wanting
to
build
a
new
accessory
structure
and
also
including
some
second
floor
living
space,
which
is
typical
of
most
of
the
accessory
buildings
in
Hyde
Park.
In
reviewing
the
site
constraints.
S
The
lot
size
is
one
of
the
very
big
challenges,
as
you
can
see,
on
the
screen
of
the
original
platted
Lots
were
all
57
feet,
but
these
Lots
here
property
lines
were
adjusted,
and
these
two
lots
gave
up
some
of
their
property
for
them,
so
40
is
really
narrow
and
then
my
client's
46.
So
that's
why
we
have
such
an
issue
right
here.
We
do
have
the
alley,
and
so
we,
you
know
we
can
access
it
from
the
alley,
but
there's
certain
Transportation
maneuvering
standards
that
we
have
to
deal
with
accessing
from
the
alley.
S
But
the
main
thing
is
is
just
pulling
in,
and
parking
on.
This
side
is
very
difficult,
as
Ron
said,
there's
there's
no
street
parking
and
the
the
historic
pattern
of
having
accessory
structure
where
it
should
be
to
maintain
historic
patterns
is
certainly
a
challenge.
So
there's
quite
a
few
accessory
buildings
in
the
area.
I'm
sorry
I'm,
jumping
ahead
of
myself
a
little
bit,
so
these
are
some
more
detailed
shots,
showing
the
proximity
of
the
structures
looking
towards
the
front
and
then
looking
towards
the
rear.
S
These
are
some
accessory
structures
in
the
area.
This
basically
shows
the
lot
the
size
of
the
Lots.
These
are
some
annotated
pictures
that
show
like,
for
example,
where
the
fireplace
is
this
is
cracked
because
of
you
know
having
to
drive
on
it,
get
trying
to
get
a
squeeze
card
between
these
two.
You
can
see
how
close
the
mirrors
are
there
on.
S
You
can
see
how
close
the
houses
are
in
the
chimney
line
to
the
property
line,
and
then,
as
Ron
mentioned,
there's
no
parking,
no
street
parking
on
Marjorie,
so
all
those
things
kind
of
contribute
to
just
having
difficulties
parking.
These
are
some
of
the
accessory
structures
you
can
see.
Many
of
them
are
very
close
to
the
alley.
S
Parallel
to
the
alley,
this
is
a
single
car
one.
It's
it's
able
to
step
back
a
little
bit
further,
which
we're
not
able
to
do
which
I'll
show
you
in
the
site
plan
again.
This
is
not
a
vehicle
or
entrance,
but
it
does
look
like
it
was
designed
to
be
a
big
pick
or
entrance,
but
you
can
see
roughly
how
far
it
sit
back
from
the
property
line
and
then
this
one
two-story
structure,
that's
very
close
right.
There.
S
These
are
actually
in
Seminole
Heights
and
the
reason
I'm
showing
I
know
they
are
not
in
Hyde
Park,
but
City
Tampa,
it's
a
transfer,
it's
a
transportation
is
Citywide
and
and
Seminole
Heights
and
Hyde
Park
are
very
similar
in
the
same
size,
alleys
and
everything.
So
these
are
a
couple
that
I
just
want
to
kind
of
point
out.
This
is
actually
on
the
Block,
where
my
office
is
there's
two
of
them.
S
So
we
looked
at
what's
the
minimum
size
for
a
garage,
well
9
or
20
feet
by
12
feet
gives
you
enough
room
to
get
in
the
garage
and
get
out
of
your
car
and
walk
around
the
car.
So
we
looked
at
different
scenarios.
Obviously
this
one
was
discarded
because
you
can't
have
an
attached
garage
and
it's
due
similar,
but
it
gave
us
the
proper
backup
distance
right
here,
but
but
we
had
that
issue
there.
Another
alternative
that
we
looked
at
was:
let's
just
put
it
all
the
way
back
here.
S
Well
by
having
it
back
here
it
meets
the
setbacks.
It
meets
Eve
to
Eve
separation,
but
my
client
is
having
to
back
down
this
extremely
long,
very
skinny,
driveway
and
then
and
then
eventually,
possibly
have
a
potential
conflict.
If
there's
a
car
parked
right
here
when
she's
trying
to
back
out
so
she
wants
to
be
able
to
pull
in
and
through
the
garage.
S
Another
scenario
was
this:
one
which
provides
setbacks:
building
separation
you
enter
from
the
side.
This
is
a
little
bit
less
than
24
feet,
which
city
of
Tampa
Transportation
typically
requires.
But
it's
not
the
historic
pattern.
It's
in
the
wrong
location.
We,
you
know.
That's
always
a
very
important
consideration,
is
to
keep
that
that
view
corridor
and
have
a
garage
door
at
the
end
of
the
driveway.
S
So
this
is
the
one
that
we
settled
on
and
it
required
us
to
get
three
different
variances.
The
first
is
trying
to
locate
the
building.
You
know
the
side.
Property
line
is
a
given
three
feet
but
trying
to
balance
being
not
too
close
to
this,
so
that
there's
some
building
separation
there,
but
we
cannot
meet
the
eve
to
Eve
separation.
That's
why
we're
going
to
zero
because
they
actually
overlap,
but
this
is
a
one-story
roof.
This
is
a
two-story
roof.
S
So
so
that's
one
of
the
issues
that's
created
by
this.
The
other
is
the
vehicular
entrance
setback.
It's
required
to
be
18
feet.
There
are
other
portions
of
the
code
that
lets
you
go
down
to
15
or
even
10
feet,
but
18
feet
is.
What's
required
and
we're
at
eight
feet,
nine
and
a
half,
and
then
the
the
maneuvering
distance
pulling
out
or
backing
out
is
24
feet
with
the
city
of
Tampa
typically
requires,
but
we
have
19
feet.
This
is
very
maneuverable.
I
know,
City
of
Tampa
has
their
transportation
standards.
S
So
what
we
did
was
we
went
to
a
parking
lot
and
we
marked
off
with
some
cones
and
some
low
plastic
pipes.
18
feet
10
inches,
which
is
what
we're
proposing
this
parking
space
right
here
is
eight
foot
wide
and
then,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
have
18
foot
10
there.
So
I
have
three
videos
now
Michelle
I'm,
just
going
to
put
my
computer
up
on
here.
S
S
J
S
The
owner
to
come
up
and
review
the
hardship
right
here
or
response
to
the
hardship
criteria.
Can
we
do
that
or
do
we
need
to
stop
right
now.
B
We'll
let
you
do
that
during
your
question
period.
Well,
we'll.
A
B
H
Q
I
know
it's
a
little
redundant
because
I
know
he's
already
referred
to
it,
but
there
there's
there's
two
code.
There's
two
code
issues
for
this
part.
First
is
transpiration,
finds
the
site
plan
inconsistent
with
chapter
27,
283
Point,
12
B,
which
is
as
I've
been
here
before
you
need.
If
you're
accessing
off
alley,
you
need
a
24
foot
backup.
Q
You
can
include
the
platted
width
of
the
alley,
and
this
is
I
believe
it
was
like
18
feet,
10
inches
or
something
so
they
so
in
order
for
this
site
plan
to
be
approved,
you're
going
to
have
to
have
a
variance
to
reduce
the
from
24
to
1810.
The
second
one
to
clarify
which
is
Transportation,
founded,
inconsistent
with
chapter
27,
156,
C
4-28,
it's
actually
a
table.
The
structural
edge
of
a
garage
coming
off
an
alley
is
set
back
10
feet
for
two
vehicle
garage,
which
is
what
you
see
mostly
usually
I'm.
Q
Here
over
10.,
it's
18
feet
for
a
single
single
vehicle
garage,
which
is
another
reason.
You
don't
see
those
as
much
actually
lately
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
more
of
those,
so
you
know
I,
so
I
believe
it.
It
actually
would
have
to
be
set
back
almost
like
a
further
nine
nine
feet,
two
and
a
half
inches
or
whatever
in
order
to
meet
that
code.
So
you'd
have
to
change
that
as
well
from
the
from
the
18
feet
from
the
property
line
to
whatever
the
it
is.
B
Thank
you
any
other
person
that
would
like
to
come
forward.
That's
here
tonight
in
the
audience,
either
for
or
against
the
project,
the
variance
portion,
okay,
seeing
them
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
close.
The
public
comment
period
and
beginner
questions
we'll
go
ahead
and
allow
the
applicant
owner
to
come
forward
and
read
the
variance
component
into
the
record.
B
So
I'm
not
going
to
ask.
R
Yes,
so
you
have
these
two
but
I'll
read
through
number
one.
The
existing
property
is
narrower
than
the
original
platted
plot
in
1920,
and
the
distance
to
the
adjacent
home
on
the
East
is
much
less
than
typical
and
compounded
by
the
fact
that
driveways
are
adjacent
and
do
not
have
proper
clearance
for
the
driver
to
be
used
simultaneously.
Both
properties
are
on
substandard
Lots.
The
size
and
configuration
of
the
existing
house
driveway
and
existing
detached
accessory
structure
do
not
allow
for
reasonable
parking
clearances
or
covered
parking.
R
The
only
reasonable
location
for
covered
parking
is
location
of
the
existing
accessory
structure,
which
needs
to
be
replaced
but
cannot
be
rebuilt
within
current
zoning
standards
and
number
two.
The
existing
house
was
built
in
1920
and
sits
in
its
original
location.
No
substantial
improvements
have
been
made
to
the
exterior
of
the
house
since
we
purchased
it
in
2022.
So,
just
a
few
months
ago,
the
proposed
variances
will
allow
the
smallest
vehicular
storage
area
as
practical
on
number
three.
R
The
proposed
accessory
structure
will
not
substantially
interfere
with
any
of
the
adjacent
properties,
because
proposed
building
is
no
closer
to
the
addition.
Properties
then
allowed
per
chapter
27.
number
on
number.
Four.
The
requested
variance
is
consistent
with
the
general
intent
and
purposes
of
this
chapter
and
the
adopted
Tampa
comprehensive
plan
by
allowing
modest
sized
detached
accessory
structure
for
vehicle
storage
and
exists,
an
additional
accessory
ancillary
space
as
reasonable
use.
The
proposed
variances
will
allow
the
smallest
vehicular
storage
area
as
practical
and
on
number
five.
R
The
property
owners
should
be
able
to
use
the
property
the
same
way
as
their
neighbors
and
to
have
an
extra
accessory
structure
to
store
Vehicles
most.
If
not
all
the
Neighbors
on
the
street
have
two
car
accessory
structures.
The
variance
requested
will
allow
storage
of
one
vehicle
and
maneuvering
space
consistent
with
surrounding
homes
in
the
historic
district.
Similar
properties
have
covered
vehicle
storage,
but
do
not
have
the
extra
burden
of
a
substandard
lot,
with
reduced
area
for
vehicle
storage
and
maneuvering.
R
The
request,
a
variance
of
provide
relief
and
enable
the
same
reasonable
use
of
the
property
as
surrounding
homes
and
property
owners
have
for
covered
vehicle
storage
and
maneuvering.
Substantial
Justice
will
be
done,
allowing
the
variances
to
accommodate
the
hardships
and
practical
difficulties
that
need
to
be
addressed
from
provide
covered,
vehicular
storage
for
at
least
one
vehicle
and
number
six.
The
proposed
structure
meets
all
the
requirements
of
the
Hyde
Park
design
guidelines
and
the
Secretary
of
the
Interior
standards
for
construction
of
a
new
detached
accessory
structure,
scale,
massing
setbacks,
orientation
and
site
coverage.
R
So
what
that,
in
addition,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
goes
along
with
that
is
that
we
we've
loved,
of
course,
to
have
a
two-car
garage,
but
it's
just
you
saw
in
the
on
the
plans
it
doesn't
fit.
It
wouldn't
fit,
no
matter
what
we
were
looking
for.
So
we
went
we're
going
with
the
one
car
garage
and
keeping
it
in
historic.
You
know
look
and
everything
and
trying
to
keep
it
the
way
it
should
be,
but
it
requires
it
just
to
build
the
building
alone.
R
B
Thank
you
so
we're
going
to
ask
some
questions
and
for
Sutton
today
or
this
for
this
case.
D
Could
you
illuminate
for
me
please,
sir,
the
cork,
why
we
have
an
eve
to
Eve
separation
issue.
Follow
me
with
this
one.
Second,
please.
D
One,
let's
say
one
story:
building
the
other
one
is
a
two-story
building
and
it
strikes
me
that
there
would
be
a
given
separation
of
how
a
vertical
between
the
two
Eaves
the
constriction
is
brought
to
you
by
our
fire
safety
issue.
Where
you
would
have
you
know
fire
leaping
from
one
immediately
adjacent
building
to
the
next,
but
we
don't
have
that
condition
here.
We
do
not
have
two
one-story
buildings,
an
immediate
proximity
to
one
another.
S
The
mayor
that
that
was
discussed
at
the
HP
and
DRC
meeting
about
getting
the
marriage
for
building
separation,
the
the
eaves
yeah
they're,
not
touching
they're,
just
overlapping,
you
know
one's
lower
and
then
the
higher
one
is
is
over.
It
I'm
not
aware
of
anything
in
the
code
that,
from
for
buildings
of
the
same
ownership
on
the
same
property
with
having
to
meet,
was
it
table
600
or
whatever
the
Florida
building
code?
I
think
that's
only
for
properties
on
adjacent
properties.
V
D
H
H
It
has
always
been
measured,
and
this
is
a
building
code
separation
issue
for
the
transfer
of
fire,
as
you
indicated,
but
it's
a
vertical
plane
from
Eve
to
Eve,
although
they're
in
different
planes
horizontally,
that
code
requirement
is
still
in
place.
So
that's
why
it's
being
advertised
this
evening.
B
E
I
also
have
no
questions.
Thank
you,
though,
for
a
very
complete
presentation,
including
videos
of
people
driving
around
I.
B
B
A
B
R
P
R
B
S
A
B
S
So
what
we
are,
but
we're
actually
proposing
is,
is
eight
foot
nine
and
a
half
which
is
what
is
on
the
site
plan.
I
believe
that
the
board
has
that
they're
reviewing.
C
B
S
I
would
just
like
to
emphasize
the
the
four
options
that
I
showed.
You
know
we.
We
truly
tried
to
look
at
every
option
for
the
minimal.
We
need,
obviously
a
two
card.
There's
no
way,
that's
gonna
work
as
far
as
what
Michael
had
said
so
anyway,
so
yeah,
that's
just
what
I
wanted
to
emphasize
that
we
had
looked
at
every
other
option
available.
Thank
you.
R
As
Ron
mentioned,
there's
no
street
parking
we
have
to
have
place
to
park
and
you
saw
the
the
ribbon
driveway,
the
shared
the
the
one
ribbon
of
the
two
and
we
intend
on
you
know:
rehabbing
making
the
Weber
driveway
exist
and
look
even
better
than
it
looks
now,
but
in
reality
I
mean
in
practical
sense.
The
two
cars
can't
go
like
if
they
have
their
car
parked
in
the
driveway.
It's
I
mean
it.
In
theory,
it
fits
by
the
inch,
but
in
fact
we
have
a
SUV
and
the
neighbor
has
a
sedan.
R
B
U
E
Thank
you.
I
would
like
to
move
that
the
variance
request
for
case
Arc
23-120
for
proper
property
located
at
2108
West
Marjorie
Avenue,
be
granted
as
depicted
on
the
site
plan
presented
at
the
public
hearing
for
a
variance
in
the
vehicular
entrance
from
18
feet
to
eight
foot.
Six
for
a
variance
in
in
the
maneuvering
clearance,
the
width
of
the
alley
from
24
feet
to
18
foot
six
and
a
variance
in
Eve
separation
from
five
feet
to
zero
for
the
eaves
and
gutters,
based
upon
the
petition
or
meeting
the
burden
of
proof.
E
With
regard
to
the
six
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27-114d
of
the
city
of
Tampa
code
of
ordinances
for
granting
variances.
As
stated
and
the
evidence
provided
in
this
public
hearing,
specifically
that
the
existing
property
is
narrower
than
the
original
planted
lot
and
the
requested
variance
is
consistent
with
General
intent
and
purpose
of
chapter
27..
C
B
S
S
B
S
It
shows
a
little
bit
better,
so
this
is
five
feet
so
we're
doing
it
five
feet
number
one
to
give
more
visibility
when
pulling
out
of
the
garage,
but
also
a
mechanical
equipment,
has
a
three
foot
setback,
so
we're
going
to
have
an
AC
unit
here
and
there
there
may
be
a
future
spa
or
something
so
we'll
put
that
equipment
here.
So
that
is
additional
space,
as
I
mentioned
as
part
of
the
variance
we
were
looking
at
separation
here,
the
solid
line.
There
is
the
second
floor,
roof
which
you'll
see
in
elevations
it.
S
B
S
So
right
now
we're
this
is
just
open
living
and
then
we're
gonna
have
the
bathroom
and
stuff
here
we're
still
kind
of
playing
with
this
plan,
but
that
but
I
wanted
to
show
this
to
sort
of
talk
about
the
administration.
When
we
look
at
the
elevations
so
with
this
roof,
it's
always
a
challenge
massing
wise
and
architecturally.
When
you
have
an
L-shaped
building,
you
can
do
like
two
cross,
Gables
or
intersecting
Ridge
lines,
this
building
so
Mira.
We
wanted
to
look
at
other
opportunities
for
the
masking.
S
That
would
make
it
very
simple
and
make
it
feel
a
little
more
substantial,
but
not
too
substantial
so
rather
than
doing
a
ridge,
this
way
intersecting
with
the
ridge
this
way
which
doesn't
work
cleanly,
because
we
have
this
bumping
out
what
we
did
was
we
had
this
Main
roof
here
with
the
ridge
in
the
middle
and
then
that
Ridge
steps
down
to
a
lower
Ridge.
So
you
have
this
cable
inside
this
larger
Gable
and
that
forms
also
repeated
on
the
front.
So
from
the
front
it
looks
like
a
12
foot
wide
building
with
a
Gable.
S
Zoom
in
a
little
bit
so
so
you
can
see
the
front
elevation.
We
have
the
the
Gable
inside
the
larger
Gable,
with
the
roof
extended
and
a
decorative
bracket.
That
was
one
of
the
staff
comments
and
I
have
a
detail
of
that
from
the
alley
we
have
the
garage
door
and-
and
then
we
have
the
second
smaller
mass
in
here
and
that's
where
the
equipment
is
down
there.
That's
all
Beyond
at
the
house.
S
This
port
is
not
screened
in.
This
was
just
the
graphic
thing
that
I
do
to
show
that
it's
covered
recessed
area.
So
it's
not
a
screen
porch.
It's
all
open
some
of
the
details,
while
I'm
on
this
elevation,
just
smooth
Hardy
siding
to
match
the
existing
house,
the
casing
trim
around
the
aluminum
Cloud
wood
window
is
going
to
match
the
existing
we'll
have
a
similar
but
smaller
brackets
on
this
building,
because
we
have
smaller
overhangs
because
we
have
the
the
two
foot
distance.
S
We
need
from
the
property
line
to
the
combustible
material,
which
will
be
the
rafter
tail,
and
then
we
have
you
know
with
a
very
simple,
simple
wood,
braillight
here
and
then
wood
columns,
the
the
elevation
that
faces
the
side,
the
neighbor
to
the
east.
We
didn't
want
any
windows
on
the
ground
floor,
so
we
just
have
a
couple
larger
windows
on
the
second
floor
and
you
can
see
how
that
that
Ridge
line
is
working
and
then
that
passing
there
stepping
back
and
then
on
the
interior
elevation
that
faces
West
there.
S
S
S
So
this
is
the
typical
wall
section.
We
have
a
one
foot,
six
overhang
with
the
exposed
rafter
tail
with
the
finished,
cutting
Groove
soffit
and
a
little
overhang
there,
and
then
we
have
the
a
window.
Six
foot,
eight
head
height
and
the
ceiling
on
this
on
the
second
floor
is
eight
feet.
S
S
Some
of
the
details-
I
didn't
mention
the
brackets
and
the
elevations,
but
this
house
has
two
different
kinds
of
brackets
existing
house.
It
has
I'm,
sorry
it's
a
little
dark,
but
it
has
a
little
knee
brace,
but
it
also
has
a
like
a
coral
bracket
which
it
just
sort
of
sticks
out.
So
I
wanted
to
kind
of
Point
those
out
and
then
also
note
the
this.
The
smooth
I
think
this
house
does
have
already
siding
on
on
the
back.
S
Then
this
is
the
zoom
out
a
little
bit.
This
is
that
larger,
knee
brace
or
bracket
it's
a
structural
bracket
supporting
this
beam,
so
the
roof
just
extends
out
and
that's
carrying
the
raft,
the
extender
raft
for
tails
and
then
that's
basically,
a
six
by
six
nominal
I'll
probably
be
finished
out
at
five
by
five
inches,
but
have
the
same
Edge
detail
there.
S
The
stair
detail
I
mentioned
this.
This
house
was
actually
under
construction.
This
is
a
house
up
in
watercolor
up
in
the
Panhandle,
but
I'm
sorry,
water,
sound,
but
you
can
see
how
the
the
risers
turn
and
go
back.
It
creates
a
really
nice
detail.
S
So
these
are
some
of
the
other
materials
that
we're
using
the
windows
are
aluminum,
clad
Windows
is
Sierra.
Pacific
H3
is
pretty
much
pretty
standard
for
a
lot
of
the
projects
that
I
work
on.
This
shows
again
some
of
the
the
corner
boards
and
the
smooth
Hardy
siding
the
two
different
kinds
of
brackets
and
this
the
exposed
rafter
tails,
the
simple
wood
pickets
on
the
railing
shingles
we're
just
going
with
the
typical
dimensional
asphalt.
S
Shingle
I
already
talked
about
that
bracket:
detail:
okay,
the
garage
door,
we're
going
with
the
panel
type
Carriage
House
garage
door.
This
will
be
the
the
garage
door
that
faces
the
front
of
the
house,
so
we'll
have
glass
panels
there,
but
on
the
Alley,
where
Aesthetics
are
less
important,
we'll
still
keep
the
same
kind
of
door,
but
we'll
have
opaque
panels
the
lighting
just
sort
of
a
period
style
line.
S
It
has
a
little
bit
more
of
a
contemporary
flare,
but
with
the
the
dark
bronze,
which
picks
up
on
the
the
door
hardware,
which
all
the
door
hardware
is
going
to
be
similar
to
that
with
probably
the
square.
Instead
of
the
round
pick
up
on
some
of
the
Craftsman
elements
of
the
house
and
then
yeah
that
kind
of
exterior
door.
S
And
then
again
the
hinges
and
handles
sparkler
bronze.
This
is
going
to
be
the
wood
fence
that
goes
along
the
alley
on
the
back
side
of
the
house
and
along
the
sides
of
the
house.
This
is
going
to
be
the
metal
gate
which
faces
the
front
of
the
house.
We
wanted
something
fairly
transparent
there
and
we
didn't
indicate
the
height,
but
this
is
going
to
be
about
four
or
five
foot.
Maybe
four
foot
high
fence?
It's
not
going
to
be
really
high,
it's
just
to
kind
of
keep
animals
out
and
things
like
that.
S
S
I
thought
I
had
it
here,
but
but
I
think
I
covered
all
the
conditions
so.
H
Good
evening,
commissioner,
Ron
Villa
staff
with
historic
preservation,
very
complete
and
thorough
presentation.
All
the
conditions
on
the
staff
report
on
page
three
and
four
have
been
addressed
through
the
presentation
this
evening.
Staff
finds
this
application
is
consistent
with
a
Hyde
Park
design
guidelines
I'll
be
here
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank.
B
D
D
It's
pretty
beefy
I'm,
not
mistaken.
You
are
planning
on
using
this
bracket
over
in
conjunction
with
your
extended
roof
over
your
stair
to
the
second
floor.
D
D
S
No
on
the
house,
those
I
think
they're
like
three
by
or
four
by
six
brackets,
the
corbel
that
comes
off
the
porch,
the
the
knee,
the
knee
braces
I
believe
those
are
are
four
by
four
okay.
S
Well,
part
of
it
was
a
proportion
thing,
because,
just
because
the
bracket
is
so
so
large
to
you
know
that
the
three
and
a
half
inch
I
actually
drew.
It
is
three
and
a
half
inches.
It
looked
a
little
a
little
thin.
You
know,
so
that's
why
I
beefed
it
up
to
five
inches
I
call
I'm
calling
out
the
six
inch
nominal,
but
you
take
a
five
and
a
half
inch
and
playing.
D
It
down
oh
I,
understand
that
I
understand
that
I'm
just
wondering
if,
if
something
of
that
kind
of
mass
is
really
appropriate
for
for
this
more
delicate
structure,
I
mean
it's
a
diminutive
structure
as
it
should
be,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if,
if
there's
a
certain
degree
of
of
size,
massive
heft
that
could
could
be
manipulated
in
some
fashion,
either
through
a
change
in
material
or
how
the
Pieces
come
together
or
how
the
pieces
themselves
are
addressed
to
help
make
it
feel
smaller,
lighter
I.
O
J
S
Something
like
that
a
lot
of
times
what
I
recommend
to
my
clients
is
to
is
to
either
mock
something
up
or
study
it
in
a
little
bit
more
detail,
I
think
given
and
I
agree
with
what
you're
saying
you
know
with
the
proportions
I
think
yeah
one
was
too
small,
maybe
this
one's
too
big.
Maybe
we
look
at
something
in
between
or
some
other
more
simplified
design.
S
Just
just
the
bracket
I
I
feel
like
I'm,
very
detail-oriented
in
those
details
to
me
are
the
most
important
thing
on
these
Craftsman
cell
homes,
so
that
is
a
very
important
detail
to
fit
correct,
so
we
will
definitely
if
it's
acceptable
to
the
board
work
with
staff
on
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
You
before
you
go,
can
you
leave
the
for
the
new
garage.
A
B
Still
doing
their
jobs
so
and
and
I
know
that
the
elevation
is
showing
the
outline
of
a
figure,
but
I
can
just
imagine
someone
who's
slightly
taller
and
I
have
a
few
of
those
in
my
family,
and
you
just
never
know
people
monkeying
around
and
stuff
so
but
I
think
that
the
primary
concern
is
the
architectural
presence
of
it,
so
I
think
other
than
that.
It's
a
great
project.
Thank.
D
You
does
anyone
have
an
issue
of
what
we've
not
seen
yet
in
this
presentation
is,
if
you
will
a
view
of
this,
this
posed
accessory
structure
from
the
street
side
in
the
relationship.
Okay,.
B
A
D
I,
wouldn't
even
be
asking
the
question:
If
This
Were,
if
this
Buckle
is
more
like
of
an
airplane
type
bone
glow
format
where
it
is
a
small
cupola
involves
with
it
on
a
second
level,
because
there
would
be
a
modulation
to
that.
So
this
is
a
very
very.
This
is
a
very
simple
building.
It
does
have
that
marvelous
little
roof
element
over
the
front,
porch
and
I
think
that
will
help
mitigate
some
of
the
high
low
effect
accessory
structure.
E
D
I
moved
to
grad
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
drawings.
The
documents
presented
at
this
public
Hearing
in
Arc
23-120
for
the
property
located
at
2108,
West,
Marjorie
Avenue
with
the
following
conditions,
and
that
is
for
further
coordination
with
staff,
respecting
the
scale
and
massing
of
proposed
bracketing
for
your
new
roof
on
your
accessory
structure,
because,
based
upon
the
finding
of
that,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
historic
Hyde,
Park
historic
district
guidelines
and
the
City
of
Tampa.
E
B
B
Ary
all
those
who,
all
in
favor
of
emotion,
please
State
I,
raise
your
hand
so
I
I
passes.
Thank
you
and
congratulations.
Thank
you.
You're
welcome.
H
Good
evening,
Commissioners
ronville
I'm
staff
with
historic
preservation.
The
last
agenda
item
that
we
have
is
Arc
23,
Dash
124.
This
is
for
the
address
of
710
and
712
West
Platte
Street.
This
is
in
the
Hyde
Park
historic
district.
Currently
it's
a
vacant
parcel.
It
does
have
two
zonies
attached
to
this
parcel.
H
The
request
is
for
a
variance
for
a
rear
yard
setback
from
20
foot
to
10
foot,
with
a
two
foot:
encroachment
for
Eaves
and
gutters
and
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
an
office
building
with
site
improvements,
as
we
did
in
the
last
last
case.
We
asked
the
agent
to
Pare
down
the
presentation
to
address
the
variance
portion
first,
so
they
received
the
10
minutes
associated
with
the
variants.
There
is
some
past
action,
that's
associated
with
page
three
of
the
staff
reports
in
2006.
H
There
was
a
contributing
structure
there
that
was
reviewed
and
approved
by
this
governing
body,
and
it
is
no
longer
there,
obviously,
because
it's
a
vacant
parcel.
Just
recently
in
2022
there's
been
a
series
of
requests.
It
initially
came
forward
for
a
rezoning
which
first
ended
in
a
2-2
Tai
vote,
which
was
automatically
approved
and
on
August
1st
2022.
H
After
that,
their
team
came
forward
a
cup
the
following
month
and
because
of
a
lack
of
a
quorum
did
not
was
not
heard,
and
then
it
came
forward
at
a
later
date
and
received
a
denial
as
a
recommendation
to
move
forward
with
a
three
to
two
vote
to
to
move
forward
to
city
council.
Since
then
they
have
adjusted
the
site
plan
and
elevations.
H
H
Moving
to
the
photo
portion
of
the
presentation
on
your
monitors.
You
have
the
Sanborn
map
from
1929.
This
is
on
the
corner
of
Platte
and
Fielding.
There
is
an
alley,
that's
to
the
east
of
the
subject,
site
that
runs
north
and
south.
That
will
be
play
a
valuable
component
this
evening.
This
is
the
subject
site
here
highlighted
in
the
green.
H
H
This
is
the
subject
site.
Once
again,
you
have
Platt
and
Fielding
with
the
variant.
Excuse
me
with
the
alley
to
the
east
of
the
septic
site.
This
is
looking
at
the
site
from
Platt.
You'll
see
that
there
are
a
couple
of
curb
cups,
Associated,
there's
one
on
Platt.
You
see
how
Platt
has
been
reoriented.
It's
a
double,
it's
a
one-way
street
with
two
lanes.
Then
it's
bisected
with
a
bike
lane
and
then
there
is
some
parallel
parking
along
Platte.
This
is
the
other
curb
cut.
This
is
a
long
Fielding.
H
H
H
H
This
is
a
contributing
historic
structure.
That's
just
the
west
of
the
subject
site
which
is
over
here.
This
is
platinum.
Fielding,
subject,
site
is
to
the
east
of
this
intersection,
and
this
is
a
period
building
to
the
West
once
again
looking
down
plat,
so
you
get
an
understanding
of
the
environment.
H
H
And
the
last
photo
I
have
is
the
subject
site.
This
is
the
alley.
This
is
a
non-contributing
structure
that
has
more
of
a
Suburban
footprint
with
a
parking
in
the
front,
and
this
is
plaid.
These
pictures
will
be
here
if
you
need
them
through
the
presentation.
At
this
time,
I'll
have
the
agent
address
the
board
on
the
variance
portion
only.
H
V
V
There
we
go
I'm,
sorry,
okay,
Kevin,
Smith,
I'm,
the
architect
for
the
project
and
the
Asian
office
is
the
1909
West
Patterson
Street
and
with
me,
I
have
Jesse
with
Blackstock
engineering,
the
civil
engineer,
the
owners
rep
and
last
time,
I
joked
that
I
had
all
the
villagers
with
pitchforks.
Well
now,
I've
only
got
one
villager
and
he
left
his
Pitchfork
at
home.
So
Warren
is
the
attorney
in
the
house
just
south
of
our
project.
V
Okay,
so
this
is
Arc
23
124
at
7,
10
and
712
Platt
Street.
We've
done
this
a
few
times
before
so
I
hope
you
have
a
memory
of
where
we've
been
and
what
we
have
done.
Let
me
get
this
to
work
is
try
to
meet
all
the
requirements
of
the
existing
conditions
of
the
zoning
and
the
site
so,
but
also
from
our
last
meeting,
there
were
some
comments
about
the
parking
that
needed
waivers,
massing
and
setbacks.
So
I'd
also
like
to
address
those
okay.
V
We
are
going
to
show
that
we're
going
to
meet
those
requirements,
so
we're
requesting
the
variants,
as
Ron
said,
to
reduce
the
rear
setback
from
20
feet
to
10
feet
and
because
of
the
shape
of
the
ro1
conditions,
it's
hard
to
determine
where
that
rear
setback
was
so.
We
had
this
discussion
with
Heather
bonds
with
the
city
to
determine
where
front
rear
you
know
inside
setbacks
are
and
we'll
get
in
that
now.
V
The
other
item
that
I
want
to
show
you
is
what
we
have
done
to
meet
the
historic
parking
guidelines
in
the
Hyde
Park
District,
so
I'm
going
to
go
through
this
and
I
may
have
Jesse
summarize
at
the
end.
Simply
because
it's
past
my
bedtime.
V
V
So
I
don't
know
if
you
saw
the
line
that
just
popped
up,
showing
the
r01
zoning
and
the
CG
zoning.
That
line
is
very
important
and
we
took
great
efforts
to
find
out
where
it
was
and
as
it
turns
out,
that
line
is
just
outside
of
the
10
foot.
Cg
setback
at
the
C
CG
rear.
If
that's
coming
out
clear.
V
V
The
orange
that
you
just
saw
fade
in
is
the
buildable
area
in
the
R1
District.
You
know
how
we
determine
that
here.
The
green
box
is
showing
the
25
foot
front,
setback
and
Fielding
is
the
front
for
the
r01
zoning
the
next,
so
the
sides
have
backs
of
seven
foot
are
indicated
by
the
green
again
and
you
can
see
it's
just
short
of
where
the
10
foot
CG
said
that
would
have
been
next.
Is
the
20-foot
rear
setback,
and
this
is
the
area
that
we
are
asking
for
the
variants?
V
Let
me
do
the
next
just
so
it's
absolutely
clear
and
you
can
see
what
we're
after
trying
to
get
that
20
foot
down
to
the
10
foot
setback
of
CG.
So
we
don't
have
a
mismatch
and
also
will
help
us
with
other
guideline
requirements.
So
next,
so
the
variance
would
only
impact
the
alley
and
the
medical
clinic
adjacent
to
us
on
the
east
side
and
I
also
want
to
point
out.
V
The
medical
clinic
is
set
back
to
two
and
a
half
feet
from
their
property
line,
and
they
are
also
in
the
same
zoning
of
cgr1.
So
you
know
you
can
see
the
red
hot
something's
not
right
here
in
their
zoning
oops,
okay.
So
how?
How
and
why
we're
doing
the
zoning
is
to
deal
with
the
strange
configuration
of
the
r01
lot,
but
also
to
meet
the
parking
guidelines
for
Hyde
Park.
So
what
we
did
is
a
little
bit
of
historic
review
here.
V
The
red
line
is
where
we
first
got
together.
That
was
a
three-story
solution,
almost
8
000
square
feet
and
the
filled
in
red
area
to
the
my
right
is
where
the
building
footprint
was
so
after
meeting
here
and
a
meeting
with
the
neighborhood,
we
made
adjustments
and
tried
to
work
with
the
existing
zoning.
V
So
what
we
did
was
spread
out
the
design
to
the
ccg
zoning
reduced
the
project
to
two
stories.
So
there
is
not
a
three-story
component
whatsoever
and
it
all
works,
except
that
back
corner
the
rears
back
in
the
r01
area
that
were
looking
for
the
variant
just
to
cite
some
Square
footages.
Our
last
visit
here
the
building
was
7169
square
feet.
V
This
current
design
is
now
5838
with
the
net
second
floor
area
at
5192.
V
Next
and
as
the
words
just
popped
up
we're
trying
to
get
all
of
the
parking
contained
within
the
welding
footprint,
so
from
Platt
Street,
you
would
not
see
any
vehicles
okay,
so
this
slide
is
showing
that
we
have
18
parking
stalls
designed
which
would
allow
for
5940
square
feet.
V
The
current
design
is
under
that
number
at
five
thousand,
eight
thirty
eight
and
that's
a
different
Delta
just
over
100
square
feet.
So
we
do
not
need
a
waiver
or
any
consideration
for
parking
it.
All
works
was
in
the
design
and
here
in
the
yellow,
which
again
just
showing
the
area
that
we're
asking
for
the
variance
which
then
would
allow
us
to
get
all
the
parking
within
the
footprint
and
to
capitalize
on
the
the
strange
part
of
the
side
in
the
r01
zoning,
okay,
so
Jesse
I
think
I
need
to
summarize,
please,
oh
sure,.
W
Good
evening,
good
evening
for
the
record,
Jesse
Blackstock,
with
black
stock
engineering,
1646,
West,
Snow
Avenue
I
think
just
to
quickly
summarize
a
little
bit
Ron
kind
of
touched
on
it
as
well
as
Kevin.
W
This
project
came
through
various
processes,
but
mainly
the
rezoning
request
that
we
had
several
Arc
hearings
for
the
main
reason
we
were
asking
for
a
rezoning
to
begin
with,
because
this
property
is
dually
zoned,
it's
mostly
CG,
but
it
has
a
small
sliver
to
the
rear
or
to
the
south,
in
this
case,
as
r01
at
different
height
restrictions
at
different
setback
requirements
than
the
CG,
and
we
were
also
driving
for
a
bigger
building
which
required
more
parking.
So
the
more
square
footage
the
more
parking
we
needed.
We
were
asking
for
parking
waivers.
W
We
were
asking
for
waivers
on
height
because
of
the
difference
in
35
feet
in
the
back
and
45
feet
allowed
in
the
front,
and
then
we
were
also
asking
for
setback
issues,
because
we
had
the
same
setback
issue
we
have
now
so
we've
reduced
all
that,
as
Kevin
pointed
out,
we've
lopped
off
the
whole
took
a
haircut
basically
in
the
whole
third
story
of
the
building
which
further
reduced
parking
requirements
and
square
footages.
So
I've
got
just
a
little
bit
of
time
left.
So
the
main
thing
is,
the
reasoning
is
really
a
hardship.
Standpoint.
W
Is
the
regular
lot
size
that
size,
but
geometry
of
this?
That's
that
Southeastern
corner
is
tough
to
work
around.
We
need
that
for
that
stairwell,
it's
up
against
an
alley.
The
existing
setbacks
for
the
various
historic
structures
that
are
in
this
area,
not
only
the
medical
clinic,
but
the
ones
to
our
West
on
the
other
side
of
Fielding,
have
minimal
setbacks.
On
the
side.
It's
it's
considered
a
side
or
in
this
case
a
rear
setback
because
of
its
on
a
corner.
W
A
O
My
name
is
Warren
Harris
I'm,
the
adjoining
property
owner
I
have
the
building
that's
located
at
304,
South,
Fielding
Avenue
right
next
door,
I've
been
there
for
about
28
years.
It's
been
my
law
practice
and
now
I
actually
live
there.
I
live
upstairs
and
the
law
practices
downstairs.
I
had
some
initial
concerns
about
the
property,
as
the
plan
was
initially
proposed,
but
this
plan
seems
appropriate
for
the
neighborhood
I
have
no
problem
with
the
setback
variants
on
the
Alley.
O
The
alley
is
appropriate
now,
even
though
the
fence
is
there
and
that
cuts
down
the
size
of
the
alley,
but
for
the
few
people
who
use
it,
it's
very
effective.
The
only
other
concern
I
have
is
my
access
of
driving
from
my
parking
area
through
to
the
alley
and
I
understand.
The
plan
is
being
developed
so
that
I'll
have
access
to
reach
from
my
driveway
to
the
alley.
So
with
that
condition,
I
have
no
objections
to
the
property,
as
it's
being
proposed.
B
B
So
Mr
Smith
we're
still
in
the
public
comment
period.
Is
there
anyone
else
in
the
audience
who'd
like
to
come
forward,
speak
for
against?
No,
so
we're
going
to
close
the
we're
going
to
allow
the
Commissioners
to
ask
questions
now.
So
if
anyone
has
a
question
for
Mr,
Smith
or
Mr
Blackstone
at
this
time
for
staff.
E
B
B
B
B
V
Okay,
Neil,
could
you
do
this.
W
Thank
you
good
evening,
Commissioners
and
so
for
the
record,
the
the
various
questions
and
responses.
The
question
at
number:
one
is
the
alleged
hardship,
practical
difficulties.
The
two
Parcels
are
located
at
7
10,
7
12,
as
Platt
both
have
dual
zoning
designations,
r01
and
CG.
The
hardship
of
this
project
is
the
building
setback
requirements
that
differ
between
r01
and
CG,
as
we
just
covered
a
minute
ago,
and
that
specifically,
the
rear
setback,
the
geometry
or
the
parcel
also
makes
it
a
challenge:
slash
hardship
to
allow
for
the
r01
setbacks
of
23
to
be
met.
W
Number
two,
the
hardship,
practical
difficult,
does
not
result
in
actions
of
the
applicant.
The
two
Parcels
that
make
up
this
project
are
both
existing
vacant
lands.
The
Dual
zoning
and
geometry
of
the
parcels
are
existing
and
not
self-imposed
number
three.
The
proposed
the
variance
granted
will
substantial
interfere
or
endure
the
health
and
safety
and
Welfare
of
others.
The
proposed
projects
for
setback
variants
from
20
foot
to
10
foot
in
the
r01
zoning
area
of
the
project
is
primarily
limited
to
the
stairwell
in
the
Southeast
corner
of
the
property.
W
Further,
based
on
our
research,
the
existing
abilities
that
are
immediately
adjacent
have
similar
reduced
setbacks.
Number
four.
The
variance
is
in
Harmony
and
serves
the
general
intent
and
purpose
of
this
chapter
of
adopted,
Land
Development,
I'm,
sorry
adopted
Tampa
comprehensive
plan.
The
variance
to
reduce
the
reverse
are
set
back
from
20
to
10.
Feet
is
along
the
alleyway
of
the
project,
and
the
closest
use
is
the
legal
office
to
our
South
and
the
medical
clinic
to
our
East.
The
side
setbacks.
W
W
The
number
five
allowing
the
variance
will
resolve
substantial
Justice
being
done,
considering
both
the
public
benefits
into
secure
by
this
chapter
to
allow
for
the
variance
would
allow
for
the
full
use
for
the
parcels
in
keeping
with
the
required
stairwell
in
the
Southeast
corner
of
the
project.
The
front
and
side
setbacks
of
the
projects
are
being
met
and
the
rear
setback
is
varying.
The
rear
setback
associated
with
experience
is
limited
to
the
alley
and
primarily
stairwell
in
the
Southeast
corner
of
the
building
number
six.
W
The
variance
if
granted
will
allow
development
that
is
consistent
with
design
standards
compatible
historic
district.
To
summarize,
the
project
setbacks
are
in
accordance
with
the
city's
zoning
code
chapter
7,
with
the
exception
of
the
rear
setback
being
reduced
from
20
feet
to
10
feet.
The
reduction
is
compatible
with
the
historic
nature
of
the
West
Platte
Street
and
the
existing
developments
surrounding
our
project.
V
B
B
D
Remarkable
presentation
that
you've
brought
to
us
for
this
variance,
slideshow
information
very
clearly
presented
very
compellingly
presented
as
well.
For
that
matter,
it's
going
to
make
our
decision
a
discussion
on
this.
Quite
quite
quite
well.
I
was
involved
with
I.
Think
your
initial
presentation
with
this
and
the
issue
of
what
was
that
little
left
over
Ro
site
with
respect
to
that
was
not
nearly
as
clearly
presented
at
that
time
as
it
was
here
tonight.
This
makes
sense.
U
Yeah
I'd
say
the
same
thing
that
how
how
the
presentation
worked
with
the
the
fading
in
and
out
of
all
the
colors
to
show
what's
real?
What's
this,
what's
the
setback?
What's
the
zoning,
what
you
know
all
that
was
very
effective,
good
graphics,
I.
B
E
B
So,
there's
only
that
anything
else,
all
right.
Any
motion
to
entertain
anyone
move.
E
As
stated
and
the
evidence
provided
in
the
public
hearing,
specifically
that
the
Project's
setbacks
are
in
accordance
with
the
city's
zoning
zoning
code.
Chapter
27,
with
the
exception
of
the
rear
setback
being
reduced
from
20
feet
to
10
feet.
The
reduction
is
compatible
with
the
historic
nature
of
West
Platt
Street
and
the
existing
developments
surrounding
the
project.
V
Maybe
I
don't
want
to
here.
We
go
a
lot
of
the
discussion
that
I
I'm
going
to
present
next
will
be
about
this
massing
and
setbacks
and
I'm
just
going
to
read
inconsistent
within
the
area.
That
kind
of
left
me
a
loss
because
I
know
we
were
meeting
all
of
the
zoning
setbacks,
so
I'm
going
to
take
that
as
historical
significance,
setbacks,
meaning
adjacent
buildings
in
the
Platte
Street
Corridor.
So
now
let
me
try
to
run
a
no
wrong
way.
V
This
is
the
bad
side
of
having
self-executing
PowerPoints
presentations.
Okay,
here
we
go
okay,
so
I'll
start
out
and
I
also
want
to
add
that
I
didn't
know.
I
was
going
to
be
doing
this
till
the
middle
of
last
week
when
Ron
gave
me
a
call
and
said
well,
if
this
works
out,
why
don't
we
go
for
it?
V
So
I
did
my
best
to
put
this
together
and
we'll
see
where
it
goes.
So,
first
I
want
to
have
a
brief
discussion
about
setbacks.
V
I
did
this
drawing
of
the
adjacent
area
showing
all
the
other
structures
in
the
neighborhood
again,
the
CG
zoning
is
the
10
foot
setback
and,
as
you
can
see
here,
the
brick
house
to
the
west
and
the
fire
station
to
the
east
are
probably
the
most
significant
historic
structures
and
you
can
see
both
of
which
have
two
foot
or
under
front
setback,
and
we're
definitely
shown
better
than
that
meeting
the
CG
requirements.
V
V
So
what
I
want
to
point
out?
All
of
these
scratchers
or
resonances
along
Fielding
are
in
the
r01
setback.
You
can
see
the
blue
bars
showing
the
front
setback
and
none
of
them
meet
it,
so
it
suggests
they
were
all
grandfathered
in
over
the
years.
So
again,
I
want
to
point
out
that
I
think
we're
doing
better
than
the
neighborhood.
V
So
next
I
just
blew
it
up.
So
we
can
see
exactly
what's
going
on
on
the
setbacks
and
then
it
occurred
to
me.
What
are
the
real
comparisons
in
a
what
on
Platt
Street?
Should
we
be
looking
at
so
I
came
up
with
these
two
newer
projects
across
from
Walgreens
300
Platte
and
the
Diago
plastic
surgeon
looks
like
they
would
have
had
gone
through
this
prod
process
more
recently,
again,
two-story
Solutions
and
in
CG
and
the
r01
same
kind
of
problems
that
we
had
to
address.
V
So,
as
you
can
see,
their
setbacks
are
10
feet
and
300
flat
I,
don't
know
how
it
got
to
seven,
but
there
it
is,
and
you
can
see
where
the
r01
line
is
cutting
through
the
buildings
of
newer
design
and
I
just
made
it
gray.
V
So
you
know
it
screams
at
you
so
being
in
the
r01
that
told
me
that
then
they
were
probably
meeting
the
requirements
of
heights
and
massing
to
meet
that
requirement
and
it's
obviously
they
did
and
the
height
would
be
35
feet
for
r01
and
maybe
the
little
peak
of
that
roof
over
the
balcony
and
the
diagonal
Center
might
be
potion
35.,
so
I'm
going
to
continue
here
and
just
to
show
you
that
the
front
setbacks
are
off
Hyde,
Park
and
then
plan
again
looks
like
they
had
to
get
a
variance
to
make
that
work
with
their
buildings,
all
right
again,
a
little
history
review.
V
V
Most
of
it
is
32
feet
so
well
under
35
feet
of
the
R1
requirements
and
I
left
the
stairwell,
that
is
in
the
CG
zoning
Tower,
where
it
was
but
I
made
the
roof.
That's
currently
about
39
feet
and
changed
it
to
a
hip
roof
rather
than
a
flat
roof.
Just
because
I
thought
it
would
read
better
in
the
district
and
the
reason
I
am
making
that
Peak
higher
is
I.
Want
it
to
be
read
from
the
street,
I
mean
if
we
go
with
a
lower
sloped
roof.
V
V
V
If
you
don't
mind,
I,
don't
think
we
really
need
to
go
through.
This
is
all
the
requirements
of
the
guidelines.
I
presented
this
last
time
and
I'd
kind
of
like
to
get
out
of
here
so
yeah
I
mean
you
can
stop
me
here.
V
If
last
time,
I
presented
all
these
requirements
and
I'll
show
you
what
the
graphics,
how
we
were
doing
it
with
the
pushbacks
here
and
undulations
of
the
facade
and
then
the
come
on
where's
it
at
and
then
just
the
facade
and
adding
the
roofs
and
the
punch
out
of
the
Tower.
V
Next
we've
got
the
rhythm
of
the
windows
that
reoccurs
medallions
placed
throughout
and
brackets.
V
And
then
we
showed
the
entrance
features,
so
it
screams.
Here's
where
you
get
in
the
requirements
that
I
were
given
said
show
wall
sections.
So
here
we
are.
This
is
cut.
The
one
on
the
right
is
cut
through
the
entrance
area
and
just
be
honest
that
stair
Tower,
you
know,
there's
a
column
base,
a
column
with
banding
and
then
the
roof
structure
with
brackets
and
a
stucco
facade
wrapping
the
stair
section
is
much
simpler
and
in
this
case
this
one
is
showing
at
the
rear
stair.
V
We
do
not
have
many
Personnel
doors
on
site
and
we
definitely
don't
have
many
for
the
public,
but
I
do
not
want
to
do
a
flush,
hollow
metal
door
and
I
want
to
do
something
more
decorative.
So
this
is
one
suggestion
that
I
was
looking
at
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
this
one.
But
you
know
again
anything
but
a
flush,
metal
door
and
the
Red
Square
shows
where
those
are
next
on
the
column,
bases
and
capitals
and
wraps
I'm.
Looking
at
a
bull
nose
of
solid
material.
As
this
one
is
showing.
V
And
then
the
Spanish
tile
roofs
that
are
used
throughout
the
Hyde
Park
District.
It
showed
some
of
the
locations
where
that
would
be,
but
when
I
showed
family
and
friends
and
even
other
Architects,
they
said
to
me,
I,
like
your
Spanish
design.
I
was
like
this
is
in
Spanish.
V
V
Next,
when
I
first
conceived
the
base
of
the
project
and
we've
got
a
planners
and
then
the
column
bases
and
then
another
base
on
the
perimeter
of
the
project
again
could
go
with
the
standard,
reddish,
brick
and
but
I
really
think
a
different
color
is.
If
we
look
at
the
brick
house
to
the
west
side
of
the
project,
it's
a
break,
but
you
wouldn't
know
it
because
it's
all
whitewashed,
so
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
going.
V
V
What
do
we
got
next
windows,
so
an
office
building,
we're
sticking
with
fixed
windows
trying
to
be
reminiscent
of
the
single
or
double
hung
window.
So
the
real
trick
to
this
is
selecting
a
frame
size
that
is
the
right
scale
and
then
putting
in
the
intermediate
elements
that
again
are
smaller
but
look
proportionate.
V
So
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
do
with
the
storefront
system
and,
of
course,
it'd,
be
hurricane
windows
and
at
least
right
now,
I'm
trying
to
win
a
white
or
no
finished
aluminum
framing
for
the
opening
and
because
you
asked
for
it.
I
just
came
up
with
a
hardware
looking
at
some
of
those
handicap
accessible,
yet
help
reinforce
the
look
of
the
project
so
back
to
history.
H
Good
evening
Commissioners
ronville
I'm
staff
with
historic
preservation.
As
we
review
every
project,
we
look
at
the
application
of
Standards.
We
look
at
the
Hyde
Park
design
guidelines
and
the
scale
and
the
massing,
the
setbacks
and
the
other
items
that
are
addressed
on
page
69
and
70,
as
he
alluded
to
this
evening,
so
status.
Finding
that
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
Hyde
Park
design
guidelines
under
the
conditions
that
were
associated
prior
to
the
presentation
this
evening
he
did
address
many
of
the
items
storm
water
was
addressed.
It
appears
to
be
a
underground
system.
H
He
did
not
show
any
fencing,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
part
of
the
presentation,
but
he
could
elaborate
that
as
we
get
into
questions,
I
did
show
some
abandoned
driveways
onto
the
site
of
one
on
flat
and
one
on
Fielding.
If
the
project
is
to
move
forward,
those
should
be
reintroduced
into
the
parkway,
with
a
Turf
to
complete
the
the
historic
relationship
from
the
curbing
to
the
parkway
to
the
sidewalk
into
the
private
property.
That
should
be
in
condition.
H
If
there's
any
Hardscape,
that
is
going
to
be
associated
with
the
project,
it
should
be
addressed.
I,
don't
believe
he
touched
upon
that
he
did
go
through
a
comprehensive
material
palette.
I
want
to
listen.
One
last
item
that
I
have
is.
It
appeared
through
his
sections
that
the
windows
are
going
to
be
put
in
the
middle
of
that
wall
plane.
If
this
is
masonry,
construction
I
think
that
could
be
achieved,
but
have
them
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
of
the
implementation
of
the
windows
to
the.
A
B
B
D
Well,
we
do
have
the
the
list
that
we're
trying
to
pull
together
here,
but.
A
D
Start
with
this,
are
you
at
this
time
prepared
to
present
a
solution
for
the
parkway
restoration
for
both
Platt
Street
and
I?
Guess
that's
what
Fielding
for
both
for
those
locations?
Are
you
aware
of
the
consideration
that
we're
talking
about
I.
V
E
D
Nor
am
I
okay
situation
is.
There
exists
two
substantial
curb
Cuts
aprons
whatnot
in
all
of
plant
Street
servicing
your
your
site
and
the
other
one
on
Fielding.
You
will
not
be
using
these
anymore
because
you're
accessing
everything
from
the
alley,
so
it
comes
out
how
and
what
are
you
going
to
do,
for
the
restoration
of
them?
That's.
W
R
W
We
we
fully
intend
to
remove
both
existing
aprons.
That's
actually
part
of
the
women,
the
rezoning
transportation
staff
actually
requested.
We
do
that,
but
we
were
going
to
do
that
anyway,
because
initially
we
were
going
to
ask
for
more
parking.
That
was
one
of
our
justifications
when
we
came
in
with
the
rezoning.
So
that's
the
long
answer,
but
the
short
answer
is
absolutely
we're
going
to
curb
it.
We're
going
to
make
it
look
like
on
either
side
of
the
apron.
We
made
him
put
back
an
actual
parallel
space
in
front
of
the
driveway
apron.
W
Exactly
so
I
mean
because
that's
one
of
the
concerns
of
not
Mr
Warren,
but
some
of
the
other
residents
in
the
law
firms
in
the
area.
When
we
were
asking
for
a
waiver
of
parking,
they
were
like.
You
know,
worried
that
we
were
gonna,
have
a
driveway
on
Fielding,
initially,
because
people
parking
along
Fielding
on
the
in
the
Northbound
side,
I'm.
D
Now
this
site
or
a
pair
of
sites,
if
you
will
have
been
largely
abandoned
for
who
knows
how
long
now,
what
what
are
you
doing
for
your
hardscapes?
We
have
really
two
to
consider
one
sidewalks
and
or
sidewalk
repair,
and
then,
of
course,
we
have
your
vehicular
surfaces.
W
Yeah,
so
the
sidewalk,
we
are
going
to
be
repairing
as
needed
in
these
apron
areas
for
sure,
obviously,
but
the
antennas
to
maintain
the
sidewalks
are
there
now
in
terms
of
the
walkability
and
to
have
them
along
both
feeling,
as
well
as
a
long
plaid,
we're
not
intending
to
install
any
sidewalks
along
the
alley,
for
example,
because
we're
going
to
have
spaces
directly,
you
know
90
degrees
head
in
off
the
alley.
All
of
our
surfaces,
though,
are
going
to
be
on
site,
are
going
to
be
asphalt.
W
W
Yeah
yeah
I
can't
see
what
you
could
I
mean.
I
can
see
it
on
here,
but
so
we're
driving
I'll
zoom
in
do
I
have
a
mouse
to
point
out.
Oh
there
it
is
so.
The
existing
sidewalks
are
outside
of
our
limits.
I'm,
not
saying
they're
outside
limits
of
our
construction.
There's
outside
that
property,
boundary.
W
W
B
W
B
B
V
Okay
on
the
parking
standpoint,
Solid
Waste
created
an
area
for
barrels,
so
they're,
tucked
away
and
hidden
until
it's
time
for
pickup,
yeah
and
storm
water,
we're
doing
underground
retention
and
that's
also
showing
on
Jesse's,
drawing
because
of
the
chamber
right
underground,
okay
and
then
on.
There
is
no
fencing.
Just
the
perimeter
of
the
building.
W
There
was
initially
I
mean
kind
of
going
back
to
one
of
the
other
questions
regarding
Parkway
restoration.
This
mouse
is
going
crazy.
This
looks
like
a
driveway,
it's
not.
This
is
more
if
you're
parked
here
or
here,
I
hate
to
see
parking
spaces
I've
been
trying
to
back
out
and
you
gotta
back
into
the
other
guy's
parking
spot
to
get
out.
So
that's
just
merely
some
extra
room
to
get
out.
It's
not
physic,
there's
a
curve
here,
so
it's
not
physically
connected
to
this
drive.
This
is
the
existing
driveway.
W
C
V
J
V
B
V
B
Okay,
so
Mr
Smith,
when,
when
we're
talking
about
installing
our
Windows
right
in
the
opening
and
you've,
got
your
masonry
opening
of
whatever
you're
doing
right,
9
10
inches.
Where
is
the
front
face
of
that
frame
sitting?
Oh.
B
V
A
V
In
well,
when
I
drew
this
mindlessly
I
just
put
it
centered,
but
I
think
I
would
prefer
to
go
slightly
flush
or
slightly
outside
the
face
of
the
wall.
So
it
reads
better.
B
B
U
V
B
D
Thought
yes,
I
do
have
one
more
question
not
indicated,
but
are
you
doing
anything
specifically
at
this
time
with
respect
to
exterior
lighting
such
as
fixtures
on
the
building
or
lighted
commercial
signage
of
any
kind
at
this
time?
D
Because
it
was
not
presented
at
this
point
in
time
and
it
does
have
a
a
bearing
more
so
than
just
light
spillage
and
something
else,
but
that's
the
character
of
the
science.
That's
the
character
of
the
lighting
fit
with
the
context
you're
building
in
and
the
context
you're
creating
with
your
building.
V
Absolutely
so
no
I
have
not
hit
that
one.
Yet,
as
I
said
you
know,
I
was
slammed
with
this
middle
of
last
week,
so
I
wasn't
able
to
work
through
everything
quite
yet,
but
agreed
on
the
lighting
and
what
kind
of
sconces
and
what
they
look
like
in
the
placement
and
most
definitely
I
would
illuminate
the
building
faces
at
night,
and
if
we
could
step
back
a
second
on
a
Hardscape
I
originally
was
looking
at
some
benches
around
the
building
at
some
strategic
spots.
V
She
had
a
person
chase
her
from
the
outside
and
had
to
run
into
her
office
because
of
the
vagrant
trying
to
get
her
and
her
staff
member,
and
she
suggested
to
me
that
perhaps
benches
and
anything
that
promoted
a
place
to
sit
and
sleep
would
not
be
the
best
situation
for
the
staff
in
the
office
building.
V
B
V
Okay,
no
but
I
know
I
would
go
with
several
split
systems:
okay,
okay,
minimize
yeah
the
size
of
the
unit
and
strategically
play
some,
and
it
also
makes
it
if
one
goes
down.
The
whole
building
doesn't
go.
W
V
W
If
not,
I
can
talk
to
it
either
way.
We'll
get
you
covered
here
in
a
second
I
think
come
on
the
antennas
to
me
up,
while
he's
looking
for
the
internet
is
to
meet
code,
so
to
kind
of
Simply
state
that
is
to
have
I
think
we
have
a
I
forget
if
we
have
overhead
or
not
along
the
frontage,
but
essentially
it's
eight
trees.
Are
you
40
foot
on
Center,
okay,
along
Fielding,
as
well
as
plat
and.
W
I'm
treating
this
like
a
parking
lot,
even
though
it's
not
a
parking
lot,
it's
going
to
be
a
building
facade
right,
I'm,
treating
it
like.
You
can
see
the
parking
spaces,
so
I've
got
trees.
40
foot
on
Center
and
I've
got
shrubs
three
foot
tall
three
foot
on
Center,
okay,
that
time
of
planting
and
then
we're
putting
some
in
the
back
as
well.
So
I
don't
think
we
have.
You
have
to
go
to
like
an
older
yeah
there.
It
is
right
there
so
there
so
there
yeah,
let's
okay,.
B
W
W
Obviously
the
driveway's,
not
there
anymore,
I'm
feeling
it's
that's
that's
an
older
thing,
but
what
we
were
proposing
were
Magnolia
gyms,
the
little
gyms,
not
the
big
brand
of
Florida,
because
again
we're
kind
of
up
against
the
road
here
as
well
as
the
building,
but
that's
what
we're
proposing
there
as
well
as
long
to
back
okay,
but
that
we're
staying
out
of
the
areas
where
the
existing
trees
are
here
and
here
one
of
the
things
from
code
is
from
natural
resources
was
to
maintain
this
tree.
W
That's
on
the
his
property
or
South,
we're
still
maintaining
that
the
building
does
not
get
into
that
root.
Zone
and
then
again,
we're
using
this
to
Shrub
row
along
here
and
here,
okay.
So
it's
just
to
be
the
same
exact
concept,
just
tweak
the
little
bit
like
you
said
and
then
ground
cover
all
throughout
here
we're
not
putting
any
side
in
so
something
else
to
point
out,
probably
feedback,
yeah.
B
W
Yeah
I
would
add
that
it
kind
of
goes
back
to
the
variance
you
guys
just
approved.
We
asked
for
that
encroachment
in
addition
to
the
reduction
in
the
setback
to
the
rear.
That
was
at
the
time,
I
wasn't
sure
exactly
how
this
building
was
going
to
be
designed
at
ease
or
not.
So,
we've
just
asked
for
that
to
you
know
kind
of,
like
previous
testimony
earlier
tonight,
just
kind
of
had
that
plus
or
minus
in
there.
So
no.
W
A
B
Think
one
of
the
things
we
mainly
get
into
I'm
just
going
to
say
this
just
to
give
you
some
some
of
what
I've
seen
in
the
four
years
I've
been
on
the
commission.
What
typically
happens
when
we
have
covered
parking
like
this
is
the
spill
from
the
lighting
and
that's
a
huge
concern,
especially
now
that
one
of
your
neighbors
is
no
longer
just
using
it
as
a
business,
but
a
residence,
and
just
thinking
about
you
know
that
perspective
yeah,
yeah,
absolutely.
D
V
U
And
and
honors
them
and
complements
them
and
doesn't
try
to
over,
take
them
or
over
mask
them
and
I
think
it
it'll
maintain
a
nice
consistency
down
the
street
and
be
a
great
addition
to
the
street.
C
The
only
thing
that
that
I
saw
that
you
know
is
the
windows
and
I
realized.
That
can
be
something
that
can
be.
D
B
D
B
D
A
B
They'll
have
a
concept,
they
have
a
hat,
they
have
it
like
assessed
it
all
out
yet,
and
we
we
tend
to
make
allowances
that
they're
going
to
follow.
Obviously
they're
going
to
follow
the
building
code
and
our
staff's
going
to
work
with
and
ensure
that
it's
his
it's
consistent
with
the
district.
In
terms
of
that's.
B
B
A
B
B
J
D
B
B
U
K
K
B
Say
if
anyone
would
like
to
entertain
a
motion
at
this
time,
please
do
so.
A
U
To
Grant
certificate
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
to
this
public
hearing
for
Arc
23-124
for
the
property
at
7,
10
and
712
West
Platte
Street,
with
the
following
conditions
that
the
applicant
clarify
with
staff,
the
exact
Window
and
Door
types
as
well
as
window
relationship
to
the
face
of
the
exterior
wall.
U
Clarify
exterior
lighting
fixtures,
clarify
signage
and
clarify
any
site
and
Atmospheric
lighting,
because
based
upon
the
finding,
in
fact,
and
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
Hyde
Park
design
guidelines
and
the
City
of
Tampa.
For
the
following
reasons
that
it's
in
compliance
with
chapter
27.
U
B
B
V
B
J
B
Have
an
admin
Ed
thing
that
we
need
to
do.
We
do
need
to
enter
a
motion
to
enter
all
the
items
that
were
entered
into
the
record
during
our
hearing
tonight.
There.