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If
you're
here
to
present
a
project,
you
will
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentations,
so
we
suggest
being
thorough
but
concise.
When
coming
to
the
microphone,
you
will
need
to
identify
yourself
and
your
relationship
to
the
project.
The
Commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
presentation
and
your
pre
and
your
project
should
be
presented
in
the
following
order:
the
site
plan,
the
elevations
architectural
details
and
wall
sections.
E
Then
the
staff
will
present
staff
report
and
we
will
then
ask
for
public
comment
following
your
presentation.
The
Commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
the
presentation
when
coming
to
the
microphone.
Please
State
and
spell
your
name.
Clearly.
If
you
are
here
to
speak
for
or
against
a
project,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
So
take
some
time
now.
To
summarize
your
comments,
because
three
minutes
goes
by
very
quickly
following
the
public
comment,
the
applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
E
The
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed
and
the
only
comments
which
will
be
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
is
closed
will
be
in
response
to
any
questions
from
the
commissioners.
The
Commissioners
will
then
discuss
the
case
will
make
their
decision
based
on
the
city
ordinance
chapter
27
of
the
City
Zoning
code.
Excuse
me
the
design
guidelines,
the
Secretary
of
interior
standards,
historic
preservation,
development
review
or
hpdrc
comments,
and
the
testimony
given
here
tonight
at
the
public
hearing.
E
Please
note
that
the
arc
can
only
act
on
items
that
are
within
our
specific
jurisdictional
responsibility,
owners
and
or
agents
are
independently
responsible
to
obtain
any
appropriate
permits
and
or
approvals.
Now,
if
you
haven't
already
done
so,
please
do
silence
your
cell
phones
and
I'm
going
to
ask
my
fellow
Commissioners
to
introduce
themselves
starting
on
my
right.
G
E
And
with
this
night
we
have
Dennis
Fernandez,
Ron,
Villa,
Elaine,
Lund,
Alexis,
yeah
I,
know
Alexis
I'm,
trying
to
remember
Dana,
it's
not
on
here
and
I
forgot,
your
name
I'm,
so
sorry
Dana
and
Alexis
Guzman,
and
then
we
also
have
someone
with
the
city
that
I'm
sorry
Dave.
E
I'm
sorry-
and
the
first
thing
on
our
agenda
tonight
is
the
reading
and
approval
of
the
minutes
of
January,
9th
and
11th
for
2023.
E
I
Good
evening,
Commissioners
Dennis,
Fernandez
architecture,
review
and
historic
preservation
manager.
A
couple
points
of
interest
for
this
evening's
meeting.
I
do
have
the
January
2023
Arc
staff
approvals
to
enter
into
the
record.
Those
are
provided
in
the
packet
as
well.
We
will
I
think
before
the
close
of
the
meeting,
just
have
a
motion
to
accept
all
the
documents
received
and
filed
during
the
meeting
that
way,
we'll
catch
everything
at
one
time.
Secondly,
I
did
want
to
announce
that
we
will
not
be
holding
a
public
hearing
on
February
the
8th.
I
We
are
handling
all
of
the
February
applications
during
tonight's
hearing,
and
that
is
a
nice
relief,
because
I
know
the
board's
been
very
busy
for
quite
a
few
months
having
two
hearings
a
month.
Thank.
D
I
Thank
you.
Lastly,
I
wanted
to
introduce
a
new
accomplishment
and
preservation
expansion
that
was
recently
achieved
through
our
division
and
to
which
affects
you,
because
now
you
will
be
in
the
role
of
monitoring
the
future
applications
in
this
area.
So
I
was
going
to
do
just
a
short
PowerPoint
before
we
begin
the
case
review
if
I
can
go
to
the
PowerPoint.
Thank
you.
I
I
Just
to
give
you
a
little
background,
the
Hyde
Park
historic
district
indicated
in
the
map,
which
you
know
very
well,
was
established
first
as
a
national
register
District
in
1985,
that's
indicated
by
the
blue
line
that
are,
it
is
on
this
map
and
then
three
years
later
in
1988,
it
was
established
as
a
local,
historic
district.
The
classifications
of
buildings
is
today
834
contributing
structures
and
433
non-contributing
structures
for
a
total
of
1267
structures.
I
At
the
request
of
the
neighborhood
associations
at
the
northern
part
of
the
district,
the
historic
Hyde
Park
neighborhood
neighborhood
association
and
the
Hyde
Park
Spanish
Town
Creek
civic
association
applications
were
submitted
by
those
organizations
for
the
city,
along
with
the
historic
preservation
commission,
to
consider
the
expansion
of
the
local
historic
district.
In
order
to
protect
structures
within
the
neighborhood
that
were
being
essentially
either
inappropriately
modified
or
torn
down.
I
So
the
process
under
27
256
is
very
extensive.
It
involves
periods
of
research,
public
Outreach
and
then,
of
course,
the
consideration
of
the
eligibility
of
the
area
by
both
the
historic
preservation,
commission
and
Tampa
City
Council,
as
you
can
kind
of
see
from
the
dates
roughly
we.
We
began
this
in
2021
with
an
official
application,
but
we
were
engaged
with
the
neighborhood
going
back
into
219
and
sort
of
with
a
hyphen
of
the
pandemic,
which
kind
of
slows
down
a
little
bit
there.
I
But
there
the
the
process
within
27
256
does
call
for
the
staff
to
conduct
research
and
community
outreach,
which
there
was
a
a
great
deal
of
that,
and
we
were
certainly
bolstered
by
the
efforts
of
the
neighborhood
associations
who
really
took
on
the
heavy
lifting
with
education
and
Outreach
of
of
the
residents
in
the
area.
We
had
several
meetings
with
the
historic
preservation
commission,
which
were
all
publicly
noticed.
Property
Owners
participated
in
that
discussion
and
the
boundaries
were
somewhat
identified
and
and
worked
through
to
have
the
most
effect.
I
I'll
show
you
a
map
in
a
minute,
just
kind
of
explains
that,
once
the
official
recommendation
by
the
historic
preservation
commission
was
made
in
August
of
2022,
the
Planning
Commission
staff
reviewed
the
request
and
found
it
to
be
consistent
with
the
Tampa
comprehensive
plan.
It
then
went
to
two
public
hearings,
one
in
late
December
and
one
just
at
the
beginning
of
this
year,
at
which
city
council
unanimously
approved
the
expansion.
I
Looking
at
the
historic
Maps
interesting
because
someone
cross
Crosstown
does
not
exist
in
this
map,
just
the
the
railway
line,
but
you
see
our
District's
kind
of
superimposed
over
the
area
and
the
consistency
of
fabric
that
we
see
within
the
existing
district
and
how
that
was
respected
as
it
moved
North.
The
green
box
is
the
area
known
as
dobieville.
It's
a
historic
African-American
Enclave
that
was
also
Incorporated.
A
portion
of
that
was
incorporated
into
the
study
area.
I
Dobieville
was
the
is
named
after
Richard
Doby,
who
was
a
African-American
businessman
and
philanthropist
and
entrepreneur.
His
house
is
actually
located
in
the
expansion
areas,
the
house
there
on
the
upper
right.
So
we
are
very
happy
to
be
able
to
recognize
that
house
and
to
provide
protection
for
it.
I
Crosstown
Expressway,
obviously
I
think
we
all
know
what
a
significant
boundary
line
that
is
to
the
existing
Hyde
Park
neighborhood.
We
looked
along
that
area
at
the
structures
that
were
impacted
by
both
the
creation
of
the
the
crosstown
Expressway
and
by
those
that
are
sort
of
impacted
today
by
its
his
existence
and
the
the
entrances
and
exits
that
it.
It
also
involves
see
some
of
the
aerial
maps,
which
are
very
interesting
to
look
at
the
area
in
1973
prior
to
the
introduction
of
the
crosstown,
and
these
are
some
time
lapse.
I
Photos
where
you
see
in
75,
where
you
start
to
see
areas
being
cleared
for
the
crosstown
Expressway,
and
you
see
some
of
that
is
very
close
to
our
boundary
lines
and
then
the
introduction
of
some
of
the
roadways
in
1976
and
then
in
1980
when
it
began
to
be
operating
operating.
I
And
this
is
a
20,
more
contemporary
2020
map,
which
says
more
of
the
configuration
of
how
it
is
today.
I
In
the
examination
of
the
area,
the
area
was
looked
at
as
a
whole
and
then,
through
the
various
discussions
with
the
historic
preservation
commission
and
the
neighborhood
associations,
areas
were
sort
of
focused
upon
and
evaluated
independently.
I
You'll
see
some
similar
architectural
styles
that
we
have
in
the
district
today,
but
also
some
unique
Styles
such
as
a
neoclassic
Spanish,
eclectic,
shotgun
style
houses
and
early
Florida
vernaculars,
along
with
some
Mediterranean
Mediterranean
Revival.
I
So
through
the
process,
the
staff
evaluated
the
area
in
accordance
with
chapter
27,
the
eligibility
criteria
we
found
similar
to
the
local
historic
district
that
it
qualified
in
three
different
areas,
with
associations
to
significant
events
with
the
early
development
of
the
city
of
Tampa
and
its
neighborhoods,
which
Associated
persons,
which
there's
a
number
of
significant
individuals
that
composed
the
Pioneer
families
of
Hyde
Park
and
this
area,
including,
as
I,
said,
Richard
C,
Dobie,
Peter,
o'night
and
many
of
the
original
developers
of
the
neighborhood
parcels.
I
I
So
you
see
the
revised
boundary
map,
which
shows
a
more
unified
Northern
boundary
along
the
center
line
of
Platte
Street
on
August
30th.
As
I
had
mentioned,
the
historic
preservation
commission
voted
to
recommend
approval
of
this
expansion
to
the
city
council,
and
that
was
consistent
with
the
request
of
the
both
neighborhood
associations.
I
As
I
mentioned,
it
was
found
to
be
consistent
with
the
Tampa
comprehensive
plan,
which
is
essential
with
these
types
of
designations
and
was
adopted
on
January
5th
by
ordinance
2023-16,
thus
expanding
the
district
boundaries
and
placing
these
additional
structures
under
the
arc's
jurisdiction
for
exterior
modifications,
new
construction,
much
of
the
same
types
of
applications
that
you
you're
going
to
be
reviewing
this
evening.
I
G
You
thank
you
Mr
Sutton.
Oh
just
had
a
general
question.
Of
course,
this
evaluation
has
a
a
running
inventory
of
contributing
and
now
contributing
structures.
Do
you
have
a
handle
as
to
the
number
of
vacant
or
under
unimproved
Lots.
I
I,
don't
you
know,
I
didn't
calculate
that
necessarily
within
the
data
we,
the
the
calculations
we
use
are
contributing
or
non-contributing
structures.
I
can
tell
you
that,
just
out
of
familiarity
with
the
neighborhood
there's
very
few
vacant
or
unapproved
Lots
in
this
area,
most
of
them
are
either
owner
occupied
or
or
being
rented
there's
just
the
land
value
is
is
very
high.
I
With
that
I
think
we
are
now
at
the
point
where
we
will
disclose
conflicts
of
interest
and
ex
parte
communication
and
our
legal
counsel,
Ms
Crosby
Collier
will
lead
that
discussion.
K
F
I
With
that,
we
do
have
one
continuation
I'll
go
ahead
and
handle
that
it
is
for
the
property
located
at
410
East
Forest
Avenue
under
case
number
Arc
23-69.
The
agent
has
requested
continuance
until
the
April
3rd
2023
public
hearing
to
prepare
their
documents.
I
L
L
If
you
go
to
page
three
of
the
staff
report,
you
see
some
past
action
associated
with
this
parcel,
that's
all
associated
with
the
path
for
the
accessory
structure.
When
this
one
first
came
in,
they
were
looking
to
do
some
renovations
to
the
accessory
structure.
After
a
further
review,
they
felt
their
experts
came
forward
and
that
the
building
was
compromised.
That
was
in
the
path
of
demolition.
It
came
in
front
of
this
board
and
the
demolition
request
was
denied
in
2020
21.
L
After
that
it
was
appealed
to
city
council
city
council
overturned
the
arc's
decision
that
the
structure
can
be
removed.
It's
currently
still
there
you'll
see
some
pictures
of
it
through
the
photo
presentation
and
tonight
they're
coming
forward
for
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
new
construction.
There's
one
caveat:
that's
attached
to
this
parcel
that
it
is
within
the
FEMA
boundaries
so
as
it
comes
forward,
there's
some
FEMA
language
that
must
be
met
as
well.
L
That
will
be
apparent
through
the
drawings
and
through
their
professional,
giving
their
presentation
tonight,
and
then
we
also
have
Mr
Jennings
from
the
city
of
Tampa
to
answer
any
questions.
If
it
comes
at
to
that
point
so
moving
forward,
I
would
like
to
share
with
you
some
photos
and
some
past
action
on
the
monitor.
L
We
have
the
1929
Sanborn
map,
which
is
highlighted
in
the
green
area
that
faces
Edison.
At
that
time
it
had
the
the
two-story
accessory
structure
in
the
back.
You
see
the
primary
structure
here.
There
is
an
alley
that
runs
north
and
south.
Behind
the
parcel.
There
is
not
going
to
be
any
alley
access
associated
with
this.
All
the
access
will
come
from
the
primary
Street.
L
L
This
is
just
to
get
an
idea
in
the
vernacular
of
the
primary
structure
at
818
Edison.
This
is
the
front
elevation
moving
around
to
the
side,
which
is
the
South.
You
see
the
vehicular
access
and
the
accessory
structure.
In
the
background,
the
footprint
will
be
oriented
in
approximately
the
same
position
it's
in.
Currently,
this
is
looking
at
the
North.
L
And
moving
around
to
the
rear,
so
you
get
an
understanding
of
the
vernacular,
the
primary
structure,
the
surrounding
area.
This
is
the
the
property
to
the
South
moving
to
the
north
and
just
focusing
back
on
the
accessory
structure
and
the
approach.
There's
a
gate
as
you
come
into
the
secured
area.
This
is
the
accessory
structure
that
is
slated
for
demolition.
L
L
Some
of
the
vernacular
that's
currently
there
and
just
to
conclude
a
couple
of
alley:
shots
looking
at
the
condition
of
the
alley
in
both
directions,
but
as
I
stated,
the
alley
will
not
be
used
for
access
at
this
time.
I'm
gonna
have
the
agent
address
the
board
and
then
after
we
have
Mr
Jennings
and
myself
to
answer
any
questions
as
that
we
go
into
the
staff
report.
M
M
M
This
is
the
first
floor
plan
which
is
showing
you
essentially
the
same.
The
proximity
of
the
of
the
existing
building
or
the
proposed
building,
which
will
again
meet
the
setbacks,
not
require
variances
for
that,
and
it
also
showing
you
the
location
of
the
AC
unit,
the
stairs
accessing
the
second
level
and
basically,
the
four,
the
four
corners
of
the
property.
M
M
M
This
is
the
proposed
new
construction.
The
the
windows
are
proposed
to
be
aluminum,
clad
wood
windows,
the
siding
is
Hardie
board.
The
garage
doors
are
an
acceptable
historic
design
and
their
fiberglass
doors
and
the
lighting.
You
see
that
we
have
more
details
on
the
lighting
that's
being
shown
there.
M
The
roofing
is
going
to
be
asphalt,
shingles
and
the
railings,
and
all
that
we
have
the
details
that
I'll
show
you
in
a
second.
When
we
get
to
the
other
side.
This
is
the
only
side,
that's
fully
enclosed.
When
we
get
to
the
other
three
sides.
We
have
an
alternative
in
there
that
we
had
to
design
to
in
order
to
comply
with
the
FEMA
regulations.
M
Another
couple
things
these
are
concrete
columns,
they're
painted
we
have.
We
have
vents
to
allow
for
the
water
flow.
In
case
that's
necessary.
Most
of
these
things
will
have
to
be
dealt
with
at
the
staff
level
and
in
permitting
on
the
actual
design,
because
this
is
a
unique
position
to
be
in.
This
is
the
first
time
that
a
FEMA,
regulated
design
has
come
before
this
board
and
it's
the
first
time
that
we've
had
to
work
out
a
an
alternative
design
that
complied
with
both
the
arc
and
also
with
with
FEMA.
M
This
is
the
a
view
of
the
rear.
This
would
be
the
alley
side,
view
of
of
the
garage
apartment
again,
aluminum,
clad
wood
windows,
the
party
planking
down
below,
and
then
we
have
to
have
two
inch
spacing
between
each
of
those
planks
and
that's
to
comply
with
the
the
FEMA
regulations
that
indicate
that
it
has
to
be
able
to
flow
through
any
water
or
many
anything
associated
with
the
flood
elevation.
M
M
I
went
through
this
a
second
ago,
but
the
guard
rails
are
all
painted
and
they're
vertical.
The
vertical
slats
and
the
air
conditioner
will
sit
basically
in
this
area,
just
outside
of
the
stairs.
M
This
is
the
this
would
be
the
South
elevation
of
the
property
that
currently
faces
a
neighboring
property.
There's
a
fence,
a
six
foot,
high
fence.
That's
there
and
it's
again,
it's
showing
you
that,
on
the
second
floor,
it'll
be
fully
addressed
with
the
Hardy
Board
and
showing
it
as
lap
board
and
then
down
below
will
be
the
Hardy
Board,
with
a
two
inch
required
slats.
M
This
is
the
north
elevation.
The
north
elevation
will
be
on
the
lower
level,
is
completely
open
and
again
that's
to
meet
the
FEMA
requirements
regarding
flooding.
The
second
level
where
the
garage
apartment
is
is,
is
the
enclosed
side.
The
air
conditioner
is
to
be
located
and
mounted
over
here
and
again
that
will
have
to
be
elevated
to
meet
the
FEMA
regulations.
M
M
M
You
can
see
that
we're
basically
providing
the
concrete
columns,
wood
frame
Construction
and
in
the
lower
level,
the
Hardy
Board,
with
the
with
the
slats
on
the
lower
level
and
the
fully
enclosed
areas
on
the
upper
level.
M
And
this
is
the
second
side
showing
you
the
wall
section
again.
M
M
M
M
It
had
to
be
reviewed
based
upon
the
danger
that
materials
and
debris
would
be
swept
away
and
cause
some
off-site
damage,
the
danger
of
life
and
property
damage
due
to
flooding
or
erosion.
The
susceptibility
of
the
proposed
development,
including
contents
of
flood
damage
to
the
effect
that
that
such
damage
would
be
current
or
future
owners.
B
M
The
importance
and
services
provided
by
the
proposed
development
to
the
community,
in
this
case
the
property
owners
and
we've
been
dealing
with
they.
They
bought
this
in
in
2019
and
they've,
been
in
a
process
of
review
for
renovation,
restoration
or
reconstruction
since
that
time,
so
we're
now
in
2023,
hoping
that
we
receive
your
approval
and
we
can
move
this
on
the
compatibility
of
the
proposed
development
with
the
existing
anticipated
development,
the
relationship
of
the
proposed
development
and
comprehensive
to
the
flood
zone
Management
program
for
the
area.
M
M
M
It
is
strategic
in
its
nature,
and
we
also
kept
in
mind
with
our
discussions
with
the
staff
that
we
didn't
want
to
set
some
kind
of
precedent
for
Hyde
Park,
because
most
of
the
south
and
east
east
sides
of
Hyde
Park
are
in
a
flood
zone.
So
we
wanted
to
be
very
careful
about,
essentially
not
opening,
no
pun
intended,
but
the
floodgates
for
other
projects
coming
before
you.
M
It
would
not
be
a
wise
solution
and
we
came
to
the
to
the
final
conclusion,
as
I
said,
with
with
City
staff,
that
this
was
the
best
alternative
that
we
could
propose
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
have.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
L
Good
evening,
commissioner
Ron
Villa
staff
with
historic,
preservations
page
three,
the
staff
report
under
staff's
finding
is
the
application
is
consistent
with
the
Hyde
Park
design
guidelines.
We
review
the
plans
that
were
submitted
on
January
18
2023,
with
much
discussion
with
multiple
departments.
We
had
some
conditions
Associated
with
that
plan
with
those
plans
that
were
submitted.
A
lot
of
the
items
were
addressed
this
evening
just
to
go
through
a
couple
of
them.
The
initial
plans
that
we
reviewed
had
a
vinyl
window.
This
evening
they
presented
a
cladded
aluminum
window.
L
The
original
plans
showed
a
fascia
that
the
Raptor
Tails
were
not
exposed.
Tonight
they
had,
they
removed
the
the
fascia,
the
raffertails
are
exposed
and
the
overhangs
are
at
18
inches
The
Pedestrian
door
is
now
detailed.
It's
a
half
door
before
it
was
just
some
kind
of
placeholder
before
a
blank
door,
and
we
wanted
additional
information
for
the
public
hearing
tonight
for
for
you
to
review
for
the
louvers
and
the
railing,
and
they
were
presented
this
evening.
L
One
item
that
was
on
the
plans,
but
it
was
kind
of
difficult
to
see
on
the
interior
portion
of
the
elevation.
The
Mechanicals
were
lifted
up
and
they
are
associated
with
the
stairs,
so
they
had
to
be
raised
to
meet
FEMA's
requirements
as
well
other
than
that
I
believe
all
the
other
items
have
been
addressed,
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
along
with
Dave
Jennings
with
the
city
of
Tampa
as
well.
E
Now
open
up
the
case
to
public
comment.
If
there's
anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
for
against
this
project
at
this
time
is
your
opportunity
to
come
forward
anyone
seeing
no
one,
we
will
go
ahead
and
move
forward
and
the
Commissioners
begin
asking
questions
beginning
on
my
left:
Taylor,
okay,
Mr
Sutton,.
G
I
have
two
questions,
sir
I
understand
the
process
of
using
that
slat
work,
the
oh
with
that
two
inch
opening
on
the
joining
property
side
and
on
the
alley
side
to
allow
a
flow
of
water
through
this.
Can
you
educate
us
as
to
why
that
similar
installation
is
was
not
accepted?
If
you
will
on
the
interior
elevation
side
underneath
the
stair
you
I
would
I
would
think
that
if
you're
going
to
have
a
garage
storage
area
that
you'd
want
to
have
some
manner
of
security,
that.
M
That's
really
a
Dave
Jennings
question,
but
let
me
just
tell
you
from
from
our
perspective,
we
have
discussed
a
partial
enclosure.
There
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
speak
for
the
staff
completely
on
this
issue,
but
we
tried
other
alternatives
and
the
general
consensus
was
that
we
were
allowed
to
have
a
fully
enclosed
door
on
the
garage
Street
side
which,
in
our
opinion,
was
more
important
for
the
visual
aspect
of
Hyde
Park
than
it
would
be
to
expose
open,
slats
or
open
viewing
of
an
of
an
interior
side
that
basically
was
inside
their
property
line.
M
N
This
structure,
as
it
stands,
is
two
stories
in
height.
However,
the
requirement
would
be
the
bottom
would
be
a
stilted
structure
and
completely
hollowed
out
from
underneath.
So
you
just
have
four
columns
and
a
structure
above.
That
is
something
that
discussing
with
Dennis
Fernandez
and
Mr
nicolini
and
his
clients.
We
really
didn't
want
to
present
something
to
you
that
was
opened
and
completely
see-through
with
the
stilted
structure.
N
So
we
worked
out
to
be
able
to
have
a
garage
door
on
the
front
slatted
on
the
side,
so
it
still
gives
the
look
of
being
enclosed,
but
it
is
not
an
enclosure
below.
If
they
were
to
enclose
that
other
side
where
the
stairs
were,
it
would
be
an
enclosed
structure
and
it
would
be
in
violation
of
chapter
5,
chapter
5,
111
requirements
and
they
would
have
had
to
seek
a
variance
from
the
Hillsborough
County
floodboard,
which
is
our
interlocal
agreement
for
variances
to
be
solved.
N
So
in
order
keeping
one
side
open,
which
seem
to
be
the
easiest
side,
which
is
on
the
interior
side,
where
it's
less
seen
by
the
surrounding
properties,
but
that
met
the
spirit
of
being
a
structure
that
is
not
enclosed.
Now
enclosures
can
be
slatted
work,
louvers
screens,
though,
all
those
things
would
make
the
structure
be
an
enclosed
structure,
so
we
left
one
side
open,
so
it
meets
the
spirit
of
being
an
opened
area
below
the
the
story
above
so
it
would
not
be
considered
two-story.
G
N
M
Technically,
you
know
and
I
guess,
ideally
for
design
purposes.
We
would
love
to
be
able
to
do
something
there.
But,
as
I
said,
we've
we've
threaded
the
needle
here
in
trying
to
meet
both
FEMA
and
the
arc
guidelines
and,
as
I
said
it
was,
it
was
a
gift
to
get
the
three
sides
with
some
treatment
and
leave
the
other
side
open.
M
Our
druthers
would
be
to
be
able
to
do
that,
but
you
know
Dave
and
his
office.
They
have
to
justify
any
alternatives
to
the
FEMA
regulations
and
if
they
start
justifying
too
many
of
these,
then
it
affects
the
overall
flood
insurance
program
for
the
city,
and
the
objective
here
is
to
increase
the
compatibility
of
the
of
the
flood
compliant
structures
so
that
we
increase
the
credits
that
are
available
to
the
entire
city
of
Tampa.
Regarding
anything,
it's
in
the
flood
zone
and
the
flood
insurance
program
did
I
say
that
correctly
Dave.
M
M
But
it's
been
exhaustive
in
in
terms
of
how
do
we
get
to
where
we
need
to
be
and
what
latitude
does
Dave
and
his
office
have
and
I
think
that
we
have
come
up
with
the
best
possible
solution
that
that
blends,
both
the
arc
and
the
FEMA
regulations
and
again
I,
said
I
wanted
to
be
very
careful
about
this,
because
you're
going
to
have
more
of
these
coming
forward,
and
we
didn't
want
to
to
make
it
so
onerous
that
you
couldn't
get
to
some
solution.
G
Also
I'm
also
looking
at
this,
is
an
opportunity
to
educate
the
board
as
well.
You
know,
as
you
mentioned,
this
is
not
the
last
I
have
one
more
small
technical
question.
Yes,
sir,
you
handed
off
to
us
this
evening
a
a
very
welcome
and
formidable
handout.
We
expecting
the
design
of
the
project,
but
there
is
one
element
that
that
I
want
to
ask
you
about:
have
you
all
selected
or
planned
something
in
my
or
have
something
in
mind
for
door
hardware.
E
F
That
means
that
you
need
400
square
400
square
feet
of
open
space
below
that
below
the
flood
elevation
below
the
flood
elevation.
Yes,
sir,
okay,
all
right,
so
that's
so,
and
so
obviously
it
one
one
one
side
open
and
the
other
is
two
sides
slatted
and
your
garage
door
also
has
has
flood
vents,
has
lower.
M
That's
why
I
said
we've
threaded
the
needle
here
I
mean
we've
been
very
careful
with
this
and
again
that's
it's!
It's
not.
It
has
it's
been
a
very
long
process,
but
we're
happy
to
be
here
this
evening
and
requesting
your
approval.
F
N
The
FEMA
requirement
is
of
one
square
inch
for
every
one
square.
Foot
of
structure,
so
being
400
square
feet
of
a
structure
in
the
down
downsize
would
be
400
square
inches
of
opened
area
which,
from
the
base
flood
elevation
to
the
DFE
on
the
open
side,
will
give
you
that
entire
length
of
a
20
20
foot
long
garage
you're
going
to
get
that
those
square
inches
needed
along
with
it
being
required
on
at
least
one
other
side.
N
E
I,
don't
know
how
you're
proposing
to
ventilate
and
all
of
that,
so
that's
something
that
your
design
team
needs
to
work
out
but
I.
Just
that
was
my
question.
Is
it
operable.
M
No,
it's
like
again.
We
we
have
a
number
of
very
technical
issues
to
work
out
with
staff,
because
this
is
this
has
not
been
an
easy
project
to
design
and
so
we're
requesting
that
anything
that
you
have
questions
about,
that.
We
allow
the
staff
to
work
that
out,
because
we
have
to
go
between
Ron
and
Dennis
in
their
office
and
Dave
and
his
office
to
try
to
blend
and
and
meld
to
this
in
a
in
a
way.
That's
acceptable.
I.
E
O
N
E
D
E
It
came
before
us
and
we
had
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
discussion
around
keeping
it
but,
of
course,
anytime
There's
an
opportunity
to
reuse
historic
components
if
you're
trying
to
reconstruct
it
anyway.
You
know
if
there
could
be
any
consideration
for
any
component
from
the
original
if
it's
not
completely
gone
and
hauled
off
already.
E
That
would
be
best
in
terms
of
maintaining
some
of
that
connectivity
back
and
also
for
the
property
as
a
whole.
So.
O
D
M
We
went
through
part
of
that
discussion
about
salvaging
what
we
could
that
made
sense,
but
what
you're
not
seeing
here
is
a
the
building
is
leaning
at
about
a
30
degree
angle
and
it's
already
been
declared
as
uninhabitable
and
in
danger
of
collapse.
So
it's
just
being
held
up
by
bracing
one
of
the
things
that
our
demolition
contractor
and
we
talked
about
salvaging
materials
was
it
it
wasn't
safe
for
them
to
get
up
and
try
to
salvage
anything
on
the
beyond
the
first
level.
M
J
J
Yeah
I
had
one
for
the
question.
We
can
keep
that
photograph
back
up
there
Dennis
now
that
we're
looking
at
this
elevation,
the
it's
always
advisable
when,
when
building
new
to
not
actually
duplicate
the
existing
historic
stuff
to
to
change
it
somewhat,
so
it
doesn't
people,
don't
confuse
it
with
the
old
historic
piece
and
it
doesn't
it's
not
like
a
replica
of
it,
but
it
it
would
be
appearing
new
while
still
compatible.
M
So
the
guttering
is
there.
What
we're
going
to
be
doing
is
moving
the
building
away
from
that
side
yard,
so
we'll
have
more
room
currently
there's
a
sidewalk
and
a
little
bit
of
a
of
a
concrete
Dam
on
this
side
on
the
the
south
side
of
that
property
that
you're
not
seeing.
So
we
had
water
coming
down
the
driveway
and
flowing
in
between
these
two
buildings
and
they
created
a
basically
a
a
slew
to
allow
the
water
to
come
down
there.
M
M
Think
we're
fine,
unless
you
you
know,
I
haven't
addressed
something
I
think
that
we've
tried
to
include
everything
possible
and
again.
We
certainly
would
like
to
thank
the
staff
for
working
with
us
so
diligently
on
this.
It's
been
over
two
years
in
this
process
and
I
think
we've
come
up
with
the
best
possible
alternative,
as
I
said
blending.
M
G
The
only
statement
I
can
make
is
I
think
this
is
a
of
a
well-developed
small
project,
particularly
respecting
the
variety
of
constraints
that
you
have
on
the
site,
as
well
as
meeting
other
regulations
that
we
don't
normally
see
with
respect
to
works
here
at
this
Commission
I
think
you've
done
and
your
Your
Design
Team
have
done
quite
an
admirable
job
in
terms
of
of
anything
that
that
is
left
open.
G
That
I
only
have
three
items
on
my
on
my
list
for
staff
coordination:
that's
the
the
final
design
and
nature
of
the
cable
vents,
the
final
selection
of
door
hardware,
your
final
disposition
of
the
appearance
of
technically
and
aesthetically
for
those
garage
fence
or
garage
door.
Events.
E
E
Will
put
if
we
put
a
motion
forward,
we
will
put
in
conditions
if
we
deal
with
any
other
thoughts.
E
We
don't
have
control
over
them
and
there
are
limited
options
on
the
market
currently,
but
some
still
look
better.
E
So,
thankfully
the
vents
will
be
much
smaller
than
we
might
see
in
another
building
that
has
complete.
You
know,
enclosure,
but
you're,
right,
they're,
very
limited
and
but
hopefully,
staff
will
pick
the
best
one.
E
Any
other
thoughts
consideration
I
do
think
that
having
worked
in
projects
with
a
flood
zoning,
overlays
and
major
projects,
it
is
a
difficult
thing
to
Grapple
with
and
how
it
affects
Aesthetics.
Of
course,
when
you
work
on
a
larger
project,
it's
much
easier
to
hide
some
of
it
than
it
is
on
a
small
project
like
this
and
I.
F
F
F
For
the
property
located
at
818,
South,
Edison
Avenue,
with
the
following
conditions
that
the
professionals
coordinate
the
gable
vents,
the
door
hardware
and
the
theme
events
in
the
garage
garage
door
with
staff,
because,
based
upon
the
finding
a
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
Hyde
Park
design.
Guidelines
of
the
city
of
Tampa.
For
the
following
reasons.
F
F
M
M
But
we
appreciate
that
and
again
just
before
you
finally
vote
on
this
I
can't
tell
you
how
much
we
appreciate
the
staff
are
working
with
us.
It's
been
a
very
long
process
and
Dave
Jennings
has
gone
to
extraordinary
links
to
try
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
accommodate
both
codes
and
including
the
building
code?
I
guess
the
three
codes,
so
we're
happy
to
be
here
and
thank
you
so
much
for
your
consideration.
Thank.
P
J
Q
Commissioners,
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
this
evening
is
case
number
Arc
22-362
for
the
property
located
at
2303
North
Jefferson
Street
in
the
Tampa
Heights
historic
district.
This
application
is
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
new
construction
of
a
single-family
residence
with
site
improvements.
Q
You've
seen
this
property.
Previously,
it
came
to
you
last
year
for
a
rezoning
recommendation
from
to
resume
from
rm24
to
a
PD
which
was
approved
for
recommend
recommended
for
approval
by
this
board
and
then
was
subsequently
approved
by
city
council.
Q
This
item
has
been
continued,
I
believe
from
the
January
public
hearing
to
for
the
applicant
to
be
able
to
make
some
additional
changes
to
the
drawings,
and
he
is
here
tonight
to
present
this
to
you.
But
first
we
will
go
through
the
photo
presentation.
Q
Q
And
here
you
can
see
the
site
highlighted
in
green
when
there
was
a
Structure
on
it
back
in
the
1920s
there
was
a
one-story
wood
frame
house
that
sat
on
the
property
at
that
time,.
Q
No
compared
to
the
the
properties
along
those
other
streets
like
Amelia
and
Francis
that
it
is
a
a
rather
small
parcel.
Q
Q
R
As
Elaine
mentioned,
you
guys
have
seen
this
once
before.
R
So
this
property
is
actually
very
small.
It's
only
35
feet
wide
and
57
feet
deep.
So,
through
the
rezoning
process,
the
setbacks
were
approved,
as
you
can
read
on
here,
they're
very
small
they're,
seven
in
the
front
11
in
the
back
three
on
one
side
and
five
on
the
other.
R
One
of
the
things
you'll
see
that
was,
we
flipped
the
we
flipped
a
lot
put
the
driveway
on
the
other
side
to
accommodate
for
the
tree
to
leave
that
tree
in
the
front.
There
were
some
trees
removed
from
on
this
property
from
the
previous
owner
illegally,
but.
R
So
we
made
a
couple
changes
from
the
previous
plans:
try
to
make
more
alignment
with
the
windows
suggested
by
you,
guys
changed
I'll,
get
to
when
I
show
you
the
floor
plan
the
there
was
a
step
that
was
inside
that
kind
of
carport
area
to
the
side.
So
we
got
rid
of
that.
You'll
see
that
the
door
is
now
in
the
back
and
then
so
there'll
be
a
step
towards
the
towards
the
front
door.
There.
R
R
Mainly
the
first
floor
was
again:
you
can
see
where
the
the
door
is
in
the
rear.
Now,
instead
of
on
the
side,
so
there's
no
step
inside
that
carport
area
at
all.
If
I
you
know,
I
can
do
a
step
on
you'll
see
a
small
step
on
the
side
of
the
front
porch.
You
see
that
first
line
there,
but
it's
inside
the
the
lot,
the
you
know
the
the
line
of
the
house
on
the
left
hand
side
it's
basically
behind
that
column
right
there,
so
it
doesn't
protrude
into
the
carport.
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
This
is
the
wall
section.
This
is
actually
across
the
front
porch
of
the
house,
so
the
second
floor
of
the
house
is
is
wood
frame
and
the
first
floor
is
block
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
want
to
see
anything
specific
on
this
that
I
need
to
go
to,
but
just
shows
the
window.
Locations
again
shows
the
tongue
and
groove
on
the
porch
ceiling.
Q
Thank
you,
Elaine
Lund,
his
sort
preservation
staff
staff
finds
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
Tampa
Heights
design
guidelines.
We
worked
with
the
applicant
on
this
project,
particularly
after
hearing
some
of
the
comments
from
the
last
time
he
was
here
at
the
arc
hearing.
Q
E
F
P
R
I
mean
that's
easy
to
do
on
the
block
walls,
but
not
so
easy
to
do
on
the
frame
walls
because
of
the
windows.
You
know
these
days,
they're
on
a
win
they're
a
thin
window,
they're
made
to
go
right
on
the
outside
of
the
plywood,
and
then
it's
all
sealed
up
from
there
by
trying
to
inset
them.
You
have
to
reframe
that
differently,
which
can
create
some
issues.
R
R
R
R
R
It's
literally
right
down
the
road,
okay
and
then
so
to
your
question.
It's
you
can
frame
an
opening
right
and
then
you
say
you
got
a
two
by
six
wall.
Then
you
frame
it
with
a
two
by
four
inside
so
that
you
can
still
use
that
thin
window,
but
then
it
creates.
How
do
you
it's?
Not?
It's
not
made
to
be
done
that
way.
So
how
do
you
seal
it?
F
F
F
R
F
Back
garage,
this
is-
and
this
is
a
very
this
I
happen
to
believe
this
is
a
very
nice
project
and
it's
and
you've
like.
R
F
R
R
R
S
B
R
Five
quarter
and
there's
a
detail
on
the
elevation
page
that
shows
the
windows,
The,
Doors,
The,
Columns
and
actually
the
bracket
the
one
again
real
small
house.
We
didn't
want
to
put
too
many
big
features
on
it.
So
the
brackets
in
a
couple
of
places
are
just
an
eight
by
eight
coming
out
like
a
wood
beam
into
the
into.
S
The
fascia
and
the
only
other
question
I've
got
is
I,
recognize
the
size
of
this
home
as
a
contractor
myself,
I
kind
of
understand
some
of
the
design
and
where
things
are
left
out
or
not,
you
know
whatever,
but
on
the
stem
wall
itself,
I've
noticed
you're
going
to
use
a
brick
paver.
It
looks
like
to
replicate
a
pier.
Was
there
any
thoughts
and
maybe
stepping
that
block
work
a
little
bit
so
that
those
peers,
you
might
could
use
some
some
Corner
pavers
as
well,
just
to
really
accent
that
or
or
no.
R
There
wasn't
any
thought
to
doing
that.
No,
it's
a
possibility.
You
know
I'm
doing
another
house
right
now.
That's
the
pictures.
I
showed
you
again
looking
at
you
know
other
houses
in
the
neighborhood
new
construction,
so.
S
J
S
R
E
R
E
F
E
R
E
E
You
just
bring
that
down
a
little
bit.
Thank
you.
You
had
noted
in
one
of
the
elevations
that
the
rear
door
would
have
at
least
one
step
correct
and
in
neither
of
the
site
plan
or
this
first
floor
plan,
is
there
an
indication
of
a
step?
Is
it
truly
just
one
step
or
is
it
like
a
four
by
four
square
and
then
a
step
I
mean?
How
do
you
propose
entry
exit
through
that
doorway.
R
Actually,
I
don't
know
because
of
the
elevation.
So
again,
as
I
noticed,
the
the
the
the
previous
owner
took
out
some
big
trees
on
this
lot.
R
E
R
E
E
E
E
H
E
All
right
and
then
from
the
front
porch,
it's
just
that
stair
and
no
stair
in
the
front,
because
that
looks
like
the
site
plant
still
has
a
stair
coming
out
towards
the
street
and
then
some
kind
of
walkway
feature
that
connects
to
the
driveway
yeah.
R
E
R
E
R
G
D
E
I
Are
we
brief?
You
know?
Essentially,
we
encourage
natural
material
on
the
front
porch.
We
do
accommodate
synthetic
materials
in
the
rear
yard.
There's
other
more
environmental
resistant
and
friendly
materials.
Now
in
the
market
or
concrete,
is
another
option
for
a
porch,
that's
appropriate,
but
but
a
trucks
prod
product
would
not
be
appropriate
on
the
front.
E
R
G
J
J
E
R
J
E
S
E
J
The
actual,
but
he
did
show
an
elevation,
a
rear
elevation
that
did
have.
We.
J
It
should
roof
up
the
door
and
a
couple
of
steps
down
and
that's
I
mean
it's.
It's
not
in
street
view.
It's
not
in
public.
E
E
I,
don't
either
I
think
I
think
he
really
took
to
heart
all
the
comments.
Oh
yeah.
He
gave
and
really
made
tremendous
Pro
I
mean
it's
it's
a
really
nice
project
and
it's
it's
fascinating
to
me
that
you
tripped
over
the
shotgun
concept
without
even
considering
it
and.
E
You
don't
usually
see
a
two-story,
but
that
whole
idea
and
my
husband
and
I
were
just
walking
in
Ybor
City
this
weekend
with
family,
and
we
were
talking
about
how
we
almost
bought
an
old
shotgun.
When
we
were
just
moving
into
the
city.
Is
you
know
permanent
residence
rather
than
transitory,
and
just
how
fun
it
would
have
been,
but
also
how
tight
it
would.
D
Have
been,
and.
D
S
E
G
Certificate
appropriateness
for
the
drugs
is
documented,
as
presented
at
this
public
Hearing
in
Arc
22-362
for
the
property
located
at
2303
North
Jefferson
Street
from
Tampa
Heights,
historic
district,
the
following
conditions
that
the
applicant
to
coordinate
with
staff
of
the
conditions
for
the
rear
door
stoop
step
situation.
Once
grading
has
been
determined
that
at
that
point
in
time,
is
based
upon
the
finding
of
fact.
The
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
Tampa
Heights
historic
guidelines
of
the
city
of
Tampa,
for
the
following
of
reasons.
B
E
Mission,
okay,
all
in
favor,
please
stay
down
and
raise
your
hand,
are
you
kidding
so.
L
Good
evening,
Commissioners
Ron
Villa
staff,
with
historic
preservation
moving
to
our
last
agenda
item,
which
is
Arc
22-501.
This
is
for
the
address
of
1807
West
Waters
Avenue.
This
is
in
the
Hyde
Park
historic
district.
The
current
zoning
is
rs60.
The
request
for
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
is
for
new
construction,
in
addition
to
the
primary
structure
with
site
improvements.
L
L
You've
provided
some
direction
for
the
applicant
to
come
forward.
The
applicant
has
worked
diligently
on
the
dialogue
that
took
place
that
night,
and
you
will
see
the
presentation
this
evening
moving
forward
with
the
total
presentation,
I
like
to
start
out
with
the
Sanborn
map.
That's
Illustrated!
Is
it
on
your
monitor
right
now?
L
Yes,
yeah
the
address
is
1807
Watrous,
which
is
the
primary
Street.
You
have
an
alley
to
the
rear.
You
have
a
lot
of
historic
fabric
around
there
about
the
same
size
as
the
structure
that's
coming
forward
today.
The
same
one
indicates
that
it
did
have
a
porter
could
share
that
ran
on
the
east
side
of
the
property,
which
is
current
today,
and
it
shows
the
footprint
established
in
1929.
L
L
This
is
looking
at
the
primary
structure.
This
is
the
front
elevation
that
has
a
generous
porch.
Has
the
pop-up
of
the
second
story
behind
The
Ridge
that
cross
Ridge
of
the
porter-cashier?
You
have
the
vehicular
access
and
you
have.
This
was
part
of
the
2000
edition.
There
is
a
two
foot
Edition
that
bumps
out
into
the
vehicular
Corridor
the
prior
request
that
came
forward.
They
were
adding
on
into
this
area
that
would
impede
that
Corridor
staff
was
not
comfortable
with
that.
Since
then,
it
has
been
removed.
The
the
existing
protrusion
will
remain
as
it
is.
L
This
is
looking
down
that
Corridor
and
showing
how
everything
kind
of
works
together.
This
is
the
East
Elevation,
and
then
you
see
the
Second
Story
kind
of
popping
up
from
the
perspective
from
the
street
and
once
again,
just
looking
at
the
foundation.
Looking
at
the
fireplace
that
you
have
to
deal
with
when
you
come
down
this
Corridor,
you
have
some
proud
steps.
L
So
kind
of
everything
is
in
line
as
it
exists
today,
going
back
to
the
front
elevation,
you
see
the
second
story
and
then
that
west
elevation
excuse
me
this
is
just
looking
back
at
the
porch
as
I
stated,
a
generous
porch.
You
see
some
of
the
materials
that
are
on
the
columns.
Currently,
you
see
the
lap
siding
the
brackets,
the
fascia
board
on
the
Gable
in
and
the
gable
vent.
L
L
This
is
just
looking
at
that
second
story
in
the
first
story,
how
it
kind
of
plays
together
on
that
west
elevation.
You
see
the
windows
once
again,
you
see
the
lap
siding.
You
see
the
exposed,
rafted
tails
and
the
window
casings.
L
And
the
last
photo
that
I
have
is
showing
the
remainder
of
the
parcel.
As
you
look
at
the
end
of
the
rear
elevation,
you
have
the
deck
and
what
we're
trying
to
capture
is
that
continues,
and
then
you
have
some
of
the
other
amenities.
You
have
the
pool
a
little
bit
of
a
back
Garden
in
that
shed.
That
concludes
a
photo
presentation
and
the
agent
will
address
the
board
at
this
time.
Thank.
T
So,
with
our
first
presentation
that
was
done
in
December
before
the
project
was
continued,
there
were
some
quite
a
few
recommendations
and
I'd
like
to
address
each
one
of
those
recommendations.
First
of
all,
one
of
the
major
recommendations
was
the
fact
that
we
were
going
to
bump
out
an
additional
two
feet
on
the
driveway
side.
We
have
since
removed
that
and
we
are
going
to
keep
with
the
existing
condition
at
that
side
of
the
house.
T
We
also
addressed
the
driveway.
We
reconfigure
the
driveway
to
completely
meet
code.
We
will
be
infilling
with
pavers
and
doing
three
feet
three
feet
with
infill
pavers
and
three
feet
with
concrete.
We
will
also
have
a
solid,
concrete
pad
underneath
the
port
of
cashier.
Moving
over
to
the
other
side
of
the
house.
T
T
We
added
four
feet
to
the
back
of
the
house
and
you
will
see
on
the
roof
plan
that
we
also
have
an
additional
gable
roof
at
the
at
the
back
of
the
house,
because
one
of
the
biggest
concerns
was
the
fact
that
the
addition,
the
massing,
was
a
little
bit
too
large
in
relationship
to
the
house.
So
with
with
regards
to
the
site
plan.
T
Just
to
give
an
example.
This
is
the
existing
house.
This
is
the
SketchUp
model
that
was
created
and
you
can
see
the
Edition
actually
is
there,
but
it
is
very,
very
difficult
to
see
from
a
six
foot
viewing
height
walking
down
the
street.
So,
as
you
can
see
in
my
notes,
the
design
guidelines
say
inconspicuous
when
viewed
from
the
street
and
the
street
view
will
remain
almost
entirely
unchanged
and
I.
T
Think
with
this
project,
and
especially
with
some
of
the
redesign
that
we
did,
that
that
is
even
more
true
with
our
redesign,
so
I
did
a
couple
of
perspectives.
So
that
was
the
front.
This
is
the
side
comparing
the
the
condition
as
it
is
now,
and
the
condition
with
the
addition
on
the
back.
T
So
I
also
did
a
bit
of
a
showing
the
SketchUp
model.
There
is
a
lot
of
foliage,
which
is
pretty
common
in
all
of
the
homes
in
the
neighborhood,
but
what
I
did
was
I
did
a
rendering
with
the
foliage
removed.
So
you
can
see
here.
This
is
the
one
story
bump
out
and
then
the
addition
is
in
the
back.
So
even
this
is
the
previous
design.
T
I
did
not
update
the
SketchUp
model
due
to
time,
but
I
do
have
the
current
drawings,
the
construction
drawings,
which
will
show
all
of
the
things
that
we
have
changed
in
elevation
so
moving
over
to
the
elevations.
This
is
the
existing
condition
down
at
the
bottom
and
our
proposed.
So
the
major
thing
that
we
have
changed
is
we
put
a
clipped
hip
roof
on
the
addition
and
Ron
and
staff
definitely
agree
that
that
helped
visually
reduce
the
the
massing
of
the
addition.
T
And
this
is
the
proposed
so
in
changing
in
changing
the
back
of
the
house
and
having
a
Gable
on
the
back
that
changes
the
roof
condition
on
the
west
side
of
the
house,
so
the
clip
roof.
We
we
added
some
brackets
in
the
clipped
roof,
and
this
would
be
the
the
look
of
the
elevation.
What
was
discussed
in
the
first
hearing
was
the
fact
that
the
board
would
really
like
to
see
something
that
is
not
exactly
matching.
T
You
do
want
to
know
that
there
is
some
differentiation
between
what
is
existing
in
historic
and
what
is
new,
so
the
clip
tip
roof
really
serves
two
purposes.
What
it
does
is
it
reduces
the
the
appearance
of
the
massing,
but
also
it
differentiates
between
what
is
the
existing
historic
structure
and
what
the
newest
the
new
construction
is.
T
What
we
have
now
is
we
have
a
large
Gable
again
with
the
clipped
hip
roof.
This
protrudes
outward,
instead
of
being
just
on
one
plane,
and
we
have
a
an
overhang
that
is
coming
out
over
the
doorway
about
six
feet
from
the
the
face
of
the
structure.
T
Moving
on
to
the
roof
plan,
the
roof
plan
has
definitely
gotten
a
lot
more
complicated.
So
the
only
thing
that
I
have
to
say
that
we
worked
very
very
hard.
Your
concern
was
I'm
gonna,
go
back
to
the
front
elevation
and
show
you
what
was
discovered
as
I
was
working
on
the
roof
plan.
So
what
happens
is
as
I
said
and
I
do
have
a
complete
building
section,
just
in
terms
of
volume
and
that'll.
Be
the
next
presentation
that
the
next
paper
I
show
you
the
floor-to-ceiling
height
within
the
cockpit
area,
is
very
low.
T
It's
about
seven
foot
three,
so
we
tried
to
lower
the
roof
as
much
as
possible,
but
what
happens
is
the
condition
right
here
becomes
very
tricky
because
we
want
the
new
roof
to
be
able
to
properly
dive
into
the
existing
cockpit
roof
in
a
way
that
not
only
looks
visually
appear
appealing
but
also
functions
well
and
waterproof.
You
know
with
concerns
with
waterproofing
and
actually
being
able
to
construct
it.
So
we
move
down
the
roof
height
just
a
little
bit.
We
were
two
feet
over
the
cockpit,
and
now
it's
just
slightly
lower
than
that.
T
So
just
a
very,
very
simple,
quick
volumetric
plan,
we
have
a
nine
foot
floor
to
ceiling
height
on
the
first
floor
and,
as
you
come
up
as
I
said,
the
cockpit
area
is
7-3
and
then,
as
you
move
into
the
addition,
we
now
at
approximately
eight
foot
four.
So
we
are
able
to
reduce
it
a
little
bit.
But,
as
I
said
as
we
go
through
the
structural
drawings.
T
With
the
engineer,
we
will
definitely
address
that
and
keep
the
floor-to-ceiling
height
as
minimal
as
possible
in
order
not
to
really
exceed
you
know,
go
try
and
keep
it
well
under
the
two
foot
distance
on
the
exterior
of
the
new
construction
with
the
existing
cockpit.
T
We
have
some
details.
We
have
some
a
real,
beautiful
presentation
of
the
details.
This
will
be
the
pavers
which
we
have
chosen
the
screening,
so
we
will
relocate
the
mechanical
pretty
much
in
the
same
location.
Just
move
it
out
a
little
bit
more.
The
red
line
indicates
the
fencing
that's
going
to
go
all
the
way
around.
We
have
double
doors
going
into
the
side
yard.
From
the
portica
share.
We
have
a
single
gate
going
into
the
side,
yard,
fencing
and
materials.
T
T
So
the
beadboard
soffit
will
be
made
of
the
same
material
that
the
existing
house
is,
which
is
the
beadboard
soffit
molding
the
bracket
details
that
are
on
the
clip
tips
hip
roofs
on
the
three
gate.
T
Gables
that
will
be
constructed
on
the
addition
will
have
the
same
dimensions
and
design
as
the
brackets
that
are
on
the
front
of
the
house
and
that
bracket,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
is
not
as
typical
as
you
see
on
some
of
the
houses,
because
usually
this
portion
of
the
bracket
does
it
doesn't
really
extend
out,
but
there
is
typically
something
on
the
fascia
or
the
in
kind
of
represents
the
bracket
going
back.
But
this
house
does
not
have
that,
so
we
are
going
to
replicate
the
condition.
T
As
from
the
existing
house,
roof
material,
dimensional,
shingles,
Foundation
details.
This
house
happens
to
have
an
enclosed
foundation
with
stucco,
so
we
will
replicate
what
is
on
the
rest
of
the
house,
the
exterior
wall,
materials
and
finish.
We
have
the
dimensions
of
the
lap
siding,
it
will
be
four
and
a
half
Cedar
bevel
siding
the
trim,
materials
exterior
trim
window
casing
five
inch
door,
casing
top
of
window
casing
five
inches
replicating.
T
The
other
consideration,
the
other
concern
that
you
had
was
the
amount
of
existing
structure,
especially
exterior
walls
that
were
going
to
be
removed.
So
in
the
floor
plan
the
I
had
still
have
the
demo
plan
on
the
existing
first
floor
plan.
So
this
is
the
only
area
of
existing
exterior
wall
of
the
historic
structure.
That's
going
to
be
removed.
This
area
over
here
will
also
be
removed,
but
this
was
a
later
an
addition
that
was
put
on
at
a
later
period.
L
You
good
evening
Commissioners
Ron
Villa
staff
for
the
historic
presentation
preservation.
The
presentation
was
complete
and
thorough.
We
had
a
considerable
amount
of
bullet
items
attached
to
this.
This
application
is
consistent
with
a
Hyde
Park
design
guidelines
with
the
following
conditions.
After
addressing
the
majority
of
the
items
that
are
on
the
staff
report,
just
a
couple
need
additional
discussion.
L
Is
that
to
revisit
the
windows,
the
dimensions
on
the
windows
on
the
east
and
west
elevation
I
wanted
to
put
on
the
record
that
the
pavers
is
as
a
transportation
direction
that
they
have
to
provide
an
additional
parking
spot.
That
is
a
fully
a
solid
area
that
is
9
by
18,
so
she
has
one
car
parked
under
the
reporter
Crasher
and
one
parked
just
in
front
of
that
for
the
tandem
parking
that
does
meet
transportations
requirements
now
as
presented,
and
then
she
showed
the
material
selection
as
well.
L
L
The
clip
Gables
are
very
character,
defining
feature
for
the
craftsman
style
home.
The
original
home
does
not
have
that
clip,
cable
and
I
believe
that
incorporating
that
into
the
addition
would
be
period
appropriate
and
part
of
the
overall
character
of
the
craftsman
style
home.
So
that's
the
direction
that
staff
felt
that
was
consistent
with
the
direction
that
this
project
is
going
with.
That
I'll
be
here
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
G
Start
with
me,
unlike
the
previous
projects
we've
seen
here
tonight,
this
is
a
considerably
larger
one
and
I
think,
in
spite
of
its
its
size
of
you've,
gone
through
a
tremendous
amount
of
massaging
and
reworking,
and
there
is
an
element
of
appropriateness
that
I
see
here.
G
G
There's,
no
questioning
that
the
the
the
election
for
the
use
of
the
rear,
Gable
I
think
is
a
a
an
excellent
piece
for
reducing
the
mass
that
we
were
concerned
about
the
last
time.
I
think
that
what
you've
got
here
since
it
is
receding
it
is,
it
is
in
recess
to
the
whole
the
existing
building,
but
also
with
your
clipped
angles
of
clipped
conditions
increasing
that
recession
really
stay
brings
the
forward
out.
G
It's
you
don't
have
that
big
block
effect
that
we
had
seen
previously
and
I
think
this
is
to
the
benefit
of
this
whole
project.
Do.
G
Yeah
I
know
you
are
concerned
about
the
the
height
of
the
roofing
element
towards
the
rear
and
you're
trying
to
bring
that
down
some
more.
Have
you
considered
an
element
or
elements
of
how
a
sloped
interior
ceiling
might
be
able
to
bring
down
these
Eve
lines.
Even
more
so
you'd
have
like
a
clipped
ceiling
at
your
exterior
wall
situations.
T
Absolutely
we're
we're
definitely
going
to
continue
to
work
on
the
interior
volume
space
in
order
to
keep
the
addition
height
addition
height
in
relationship
to
the
cockpit
height
as
low
as
possible,
but
also
giving
sufficient
interior
Headroom
in
there.
So
previous,
the
previous
project
had
a
nine
foot
ceiling
height,
so
we're
bringing
that
definitely
bringing
that
down
and
we
will
work
with
the
interior
volume
and
how
we
can
fit
mechanical
up
in
into
the
ceiling.
A
G
I
think
that'd
be
one
of
the
the
big
battles.
You
know
how
to
get
the
something
through
such
a
low
ceiling,
sort
of
a
situation.
H
G
F
I
am
I,
think
less
troubled
by
the
height
of
this
addition,
because
it's
it's
so
far
back.
F
A
J
J
T
J
T
Open-
or
there
was
some
sort
of
you
know
covering
but
I
know
from
personal
experience,
that
insurance
companies
now
do
not
want
to
have
any
openings
in
the
crawl
space
underneath
the
home
and
a
personal
experience
with
a
coyote
under
under
my
house.
Oh.
T
What's
going
to
happen
here,
when
we,
when
we
build
the
addition,
there
should
be
some
access
when
for
crawl
space
or
access
underneath
the
addition,
as
per
when
we
go
to
Structural
Engineering,
so
we
would
make
the
crawl
space
look
exactly
like
it
or.
J
J
Compatible
compatible
okay,
I,
just
I
was
just
curious
because
I
did
glance
and
saw
the
vent
yeah,
but
then
you're
right,
the
rest
of
the
house
is
not
yeah.
You
know
the
rest
of
the
house
is
a
you
know:
a
full
full,
solid
stem
wall:
okay,
I!
Guess
it's
not
a
question,
but
the
clip
tip
does
definitely
distinguish
the
addition
from
the
existing,
which
is.
J
It's
my
pet
peeve,
it's
one
of
my
pet
peeves
and
that's
that's.
That's
lovely.
The
staff
report
tested
touched
upon
windows
on
the
East
and
the
West
Side
could.
B
D
T
J
B
B
A
J
J
So
I
mean
if
you
consider
that
I
think
that's
absolutely
perfectly
adequate
I,
don't
think
I
have
anything
else
to
ask.
Thank
you
great.
E
So
if
you
can
leave
these
up
here,
okay,
I,
actually
the
East
Elevation,
the
lower
one
you
you
can
take
the
last
one
away,
just
leave
the
East
one
and
then,
if
you
could
explain
the
choice
of
the
two
single
windows
on
the
one
story:
Edition,
the
new
ones,
the.
T
T
E
Back
to
the
elevation,
okay,
thank
you
it.
It
doesn't
concern
me
their
actual
placement,
it's
their
sizes,
okay.
So,
to
to
me,
when
I
see
this
elevation
everything's
happy
getting
along
and
then
those
two
windows
punch
me
in
the
eye.
Okay,
and
it's
because
I
feel
like
they're
out
of
scale,
especially
for.
E
And
I
I
agree
with
all
my
fellow
Commissioners
that
this
has
just
taken
Leaps
and
Bounds
since
the
last
time
we
saw
this.
Those
are
the
last
two
things
that
are
really
just
giving
me
concern
and
I
think
you
know.
That
is
something
that
can
be
worked
out
as
you
move
through
absolutely.
D
B
E
Is
that
is
something
you
know.
I
would
ask
some
some
more
thought
and
refinement
in
that
particular
area.
One
last
thing
from
the
staff
report
is
the
gable
vent.
We.
E
G
You
any
other
questions
for
this.
Yes
have
had
me,
please,
ma'am
I
would
like
to
make
a
revisitation
to
the
crawl
space
matter.
This
is
more
of
a
technical.
Okay
is
the
whole
of
the
original
construction
on
a
crawl
space.
G
U
So
yeah
the
whole
original
house
is
on
a
crawl
space,
Miss
Prokop
to
your
question
that
side,
where
you
have
that
little
thin
access.
There
was
a
camper
tree
that
grew
in
there.
It's
one
of
the
removed
ones,
I
think
on
the
plan
and
the
root
grew
into
the
stem
wall
and
cracked
it.
So
it
was
all
originally
enclosed,
but
it
had
to
be
removed
because
it
got
it
got
cracked
and
it's
like
pretty
dense
tree
root.
So
that
was
my
handiwork
there
on
that.
One,
oh.
G
Man,
good
answer.
The
reason
why
I
asked
the
question
is
that
typically,
the
ground
moisture
issue
can
become
a
very
big
problem
for
a
dwelling,
a
particularly
a
wood
frame
dwelling
or
a
wood
frame
structure
of
any
kind
on
a
crawl
space
that
is
not
adequately
invented,
and
this
comes
into
two
flavors
here,
one
for
the
existing
structure
since
you're
doing
so
much
work
here.
Have
you
evaluated
what
that
moisture
impact
is
on
the
existing
structure
and
two?
B
U
Have
personally
spent
like
tens
of
hours
underneath
that
house
digging
French
drains
and
we
have
a
sump
pump.
So
we
have
a
full
drainage
system
underneath
the
house
that
we
could
extend
into
the
the
new
space
where
the
new
construction
is
going
to
go.
So
it's
it's
drier
under
there
than
probably
any
other
house
in
Hyde,
Park
I.
G
G
G
T
Well,
your
points
are
very
well
taken,
especially
with
the
foundation
being
enclosed
and
a
possible
issue
with
keeping
moisture
out
and
we'll
definitely
take
that
into
consideration.
Also,
as
I
said,
as
we
developed
the
plan
with
the
structural
engineer
and
refine
the
roof,
we
will
keep
the
height
of
the
addition
as
low
as
possible
and
exploring
conventional
framing
and
some
different
treatments
on
the
inside
with
vaulted
ceilings,
in
order
to
create
a
larger
volume
space
and
also
revisit
the
two
windows
on
the
east
side
to
make
sure
that
they
are
of
better
proportion.
T
J
That
the
addition
has
been
tweaked
and
pushed
and
pulled,
and
you
know
squeezed
and
whatnot
in
in
the
appropriate
manner.
You
know
from
our
comments.
The
last
time
you
came
before
us
and
I
think
it's
it's
it's
well
done
and
it's
I.
B
E
Agree
and
I
think
the
detailing
adding
in
the
the
clip
tip,
which
I
also
know
is
the
Dutch
hip,
adding
that
element
in
it.
It
really
added
another
level
of
detail
and
you
could
see
that
the
detailing
changed
in
response
to
that,
so
that
was
really
nice
and
it
became
more
elegant
and
delicate
at
the
same
time,
which
was
very
nice
and
hopefully
it's
a
better
project
for
you
and
your
clients.
That's
always
Our
Hope
here.
E
E
E
J
I
moved
to
Grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented.
This
public
Hearing
in
Arc
22-501
for
the
property
at
1807,
West
Watrous
Avenue
in
Tampa,
with
the
following
conditions
that
the
applicant
revisit
the
proportions
and
scaling
of
the
two
windows
on
the
west
elevation
of
the
property
and
that
the
addition
roof
Ridge
height
shall
not
increase
from
that
presented
this
evening
and,
if
possible,
be
minimized.
J
If
possible,
because,
based
on
the
finding
a
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
Hyde
Park
design
guidelines
and
the
City
of
Tampa
for
the
following
reasons
that
it
meets
the
provisions
contained
in
chapter
27
of
the
city
codes
and
that
the
volume
detailing
and
proportions
and
scale
of
the
addition
are
compatible
with
the
design
guidelines.