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A
A
B
The
call
to
order
the
Wednesday,
January
11th
2023
public
hearing
for
the
city
of
Tampa's,
Architectural
Review
commission,
to
a
tour,
welcome
everyone,
I'm
Susan,
klausmith
I,
am
the
chair
of
the
commission
and
I
am
also
an
architect.
If
you're
here
to
present
a
project,
you
will
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentations,
so
we
suggest
being
thorough
but
concise.
When
coming
to
the
microphone,
you
will
need
to
identify
yourself
in
your
relationship
to
the
project.
B
The
Commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
presentation
and
your
project
should
be
presented
in
the
following
order:
site
plan,
the
elevations,
architectural
details
and
wall
sections
staff
will
then
present
the
staff
report,
and
then
we
will
ask
for
public
comment
following
your
presentation.
The
Commissioners
will
begin
be
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
the
presentation
when
coming
to
the
microphone.
Please
State
and
spell
your
name.
Clearly,
if
you
are
here
to
speak
for
against
a
project,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
So
take
some
time
now.
B
To
summarize
your
comments,
because
three
minutes
goes
by
very
quickly
following
the
public
comment,
the
applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
The
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed
and
the
only
comments
which
will
be
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
is
closed
will
be
in
response
to
any
questions
from
the
commissioners.
B
Please
remember:
the
arc
can
only
act
on
items
that
are
within
our
specific
jurisdictional
responsibility
and
owner
agents
are
independently
responsible
to
obtain
any
appropriate
permits
and
or
approvals.
Now,
if
you
haven't
already
done
so,
please
do
silence.
Your
phones
and
I'll.
Ask
my
fellow
Commissioners
to
introduce
themselves
beginning
on
my
right.
E
B
And
tonight
we
have
staff
with
us
Alexis
Guzman,
Ron
Villa,
and
our
legal
team
tonight
is
kamaria
Pettis,
mackel
and
Dana
Crosby
Collier.
G
G
H
Good
afternoon
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Ron
Villa
I'm
staff
with
historic
preservation
under
continuations.
We
have
one
that's
reflected
on
the
agenda
and
we're
going
to
need
a
motion
for
it.
That's
for
Arc
22-362,
it's
for
the
address
of
2303
North
Jefferson
Street.
The
request
was
for
new
construction,
single
family
residential
with
site
improvements.
F
I
moved
to
continue
Arc
22-362
at
2303
North
Jefferson
Street
to
the
public
hearing
on
February
6
2023
at
5,
30
pm.
H
H
We're
ready
for
the
first
case
this
evening,
which
is
Arc
23-22.
This
is
for
the
address
of
1708
West
Richardson
place.
This
is
in
the
Hyde
Park
historic
district.
The
primary
structure
dates
back
to
1919,
which
is
a
contributing
structure.
There
is
a
non-contributing
ancestry
structure.
That's
one
story
that
is
currently
there.
They
are
the
agent's
going
to
request
for
the
Demolition,
and
that
is
a
function
that
staff
can
handle.
H
The
request
is
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
a
one-story
accessory
structure
with
site
improvements
as
I
go
through
the
photo
presentation,
I'll
show
the
the
location
and
the
proximity
to
Bayshore.
Avenue
This
falls
within
the
FEMA
boundaries,
so
there's
some
criteria
that
must
be
met
as
the
design
comes
forward,
FEMA's
regulations.
H
If
it's
a
one-story
structure
and
it's
less
than
600
square
foot,
it
can
move
forward
as
long
as
it
meets
the
the
zoning
setbacks
as
part
of
the
FEMA
requirements,
as
the
materials
have
to
be
FEMA
approved
and
that
they
have
to
put
in
some
hydrostatic
vents
that
you'll
see
in
the
drawings.
This
evening,
so
that
is
a
requirement
from
FEMA.
H
Property
in
question
is
highlighted
in
the
green
parcel.
You
see
the
irregular
shape
a
lot,
that's
there.
They
are
not
asking
for
any
variances.
Is
it
just
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness?
The
primary
facade
faces
Richardson
to
the
east.
You
have
Rome
to
the
South,
you
have
Bay
Shore
and
you
see
the
proximity
from
Bayshore
to
the
property,
and
that's
why
FEMA
is
interacting
with
this
project
and
to
the
West.
You
have
gumby.
There
is
no
alley
attached
to
this
parcel.
H
H
This
is
the
primary
facade
of
the
contributing
structure.
Looking
from
the
street
down
the
portica
share
in
front
of
that
car,
you
have
the
view
of
the
location
of
the
accessory
structure
currently
and
just
looking
at.
What's
currently
there
going
back
to
the
primary
structure,
you
see,
I
have
the
front
elevation
and
then
the
side
elevation,
which
is
the
east.
H
This
is
the
existing
structure
and
you
see
the
elevation
to
the
interior
lot
and
just
to
complete
the
photo
presentation.
This
is
the
rear
yard.
You
see
they
have
some
Challenger
with
water
absorption
there
and
then
the
accessory
structure.
That
concludes
the
photo
presentation
and
the
owner
will
address
the
board
at
this
time.
I
I
Thank
you
yeah.
So
this
is
the
the
site
plan.
You'll
see
the
the
accessory
structure
is
going
to
go
right.
Here.
It's
going
to
be
463
square
feet,
it's
slightly
larger
than
the
the
current
structure
that
there
that's
there,
making
a
little
bit
wider,
primarily
so
that
we
can
fit
a
car
into
it
in
terms
of
the
the
neighboring
properties.
It's
you've
got
a
five
feet:
space
on
on
the
I,
guess,
that's
the
west
side
and
three
to
five
on
the
south
side,
it's
a
little
bit
at
an
angle
there.
I
So
that's
that's
the
site
plan.
These
are
the
elevations.
I
Okay,
so
you
can
see
the
front
elevation
here,
the
garage
door
as
we've
planned.
It
is
slightly
off
center
because,
as
the
driveway
comes
down
to
the
back
of
the
property
it
it
turns
a
little
bit
in
order
to
even
fit
a
car
back
there.
So
that's
why
we
kept
the
the
garage
door
slightly
to
the
side
there.
I
The
other
reason
is,
we
intend,
you
know
to
have
some
storage
space
in
the
garage
and
that
that
area
to
the
left
of
the
garage
door
would
be
for
storage
and
a
workbench
and
so
forth
and
I
would
note
as
well.
You
may
have
some
questions
about
the
windows
and
so
forth
the
window
on
the
east
side
of
the
building,
which
is
facing
interior
to
our
property.
I
Have
as
well
the
the
wall,
sections
I,
don't
know
the
level
of
detail
you
need
me
to
go
into
on
these
I
will
just
state
that
I
think
they're
compliant
with
everything
I've
been
asked
to
do.
We
we
did
make
some
actually
I
should
mention
on
on
I'm
sorry
on
the
elevation.
This
is
a
slightly
revised
version
of
what
we
had
submitted
on
December
21st.
I
I
Again,
the
wall
sections
this
one
again,
some
minor
variations
from
the
last
time
the
the
soffit
was
was
aluminum
last
time.
The
soft
event
it's
now
been
changed
to
Hardy
the
the
entire
structure
is
going
to
be
covered
in
Hardy
Board
rather
than
wood,
again,
I
I'm,
not
an
architect,
so
I,
don't
know
exactly
what
you
need
to
hear
from
me
on
all
that.
But
those
are
the
those
are
the
wall,
sections.
I
So,
for
for
that,
doorway
into
the
garage
I
I
did
want
to
just
show
you
two
things:
first,
we
we
have
a
large
number
of
doors
in
our
house
and
and
they
are
of
all
different
types.
This
is
this
is
the
the
door
on
the
side
porch
of
our
house.
You
can
see
the
single
pane
of
glass
like
that.
I
This
is
the
door
on
on
the
back
of
our
house
leading
out
to
the
deck,
and
so
you
know
we
wanted
to
try
to
as
much
as
possible
do
something
consistent
with
those,
so
we're
proposing
a
door,
something
like
this
for
the
for
the
side
door
in
the
garage.
It's
it's
a
wood
door
with
the
you
know
the
Pains
of
glass
up
above,
not
not
full
glass
but
very
consistent,
I
think
with
the
door
that's
leading
out
to
the
deck
of
our
house.
I
I
Sorry
for
being
here,
if
you
look
at
the
the
main
structure,
you
see,
for
example,
up
on
the
very
top
here
we
have
a
window.
That's
not
that's
not
vertical!
That's
horizontal!
We
also
have
a
small
square
window
on
the
front
of
the
house,
and
so
we
think
that
you
know
the
window
we're
proposing
for
the
garage
which
would
be
something
like
this
is
consistent
with
with
what's
going
on
with
the
rest
of
the
house
and
again
would
allow
us
to
have
a
workspace
underneath,
rather
than
having
a
vertical
window.
There.
I
We
we're
going
to
have
lighting
by
the
side
door.
We
were
proposing
something
like
like
this
for
the
outdoor
lighting
again,
we're
you
know
open
to
whatever
is
appropriate,
but
we
thought
that
went
with
the
sort
of
character
of
the
rest
of
the
house
for
the
for
the
hardware
on
the
doors
we're
going
to
propose
something
along
these
lines.
This
we
actually
have
this
Hardware
on
other
doors
in
our
house,
including
the
exterior
doors
and,
finally,
that's
the
image
of
the
garage
door.
It's
vanco
and
that's
drawn
obviously
into
the
elevation
as
well.
I
So
that's
I
think
that's
all
I
have
to
say
at
this
point.
I
appreciate
your
time
and
obviously
we'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
Thank
you.
H
Afternoon,
Commissioners
Ron
Villa
staff
with
historic
preservation
staff
finding
that
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
Hyde
Park
design
guidelines.
We've
reviewed
the
plans
on
November
15
2022.
we've
been
at
this
for
a
little
while
the
condition
is
attached
to
your
staff
report
on
page
three.
First
of
all
that
to
meet
FEMA
regulations,
that
Hardy
is
an
acceptable
material
as
he
moves
forward
through
the
elevations.
H
You
saw
that
there
were
incorporation
events
on
three
of
the
elevations
as
we
go
through
this
process
as
kind
of
a
learning
application
for
for
preservation
staff
as
well
I
think
that
the
garage
door
is
going
to
have
to
have
some
hydrostatic
vents
in
it
as
well,
but
we'll
let
the
building
department
comment
on
that.
What
he
was
presented
so
far
meets
the
criteria.
There
is
no
fencing
additional
fencing
that
is
requested.
This
evening.
H
H
H
He
did
address
the
the
dimension
of
the
window.
That's
a
little
foreign
to
the
district,
but
the
the
use
of
the
workbench
underneath
might
accommodate
that.
The
other
bullet
item
was
the
soffit
vent
was
aluminum
to
begin
with,
he
has
changed
that
to
Hardy,
which
is
something
that
we've
approved
in
the
past
and
then
going
down
the
list.
I
believe
he
addressed
all
the
other
items
so
that
completes
my
portion
of
this
presentation
and
I'll
be
there
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank.
B
You
Ron
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
it
to
public
comment.
If
anybody
would
like
to
come
forward
seeing
no
one
will
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
Commissioners
asking
questions
and
I'll
start
on
my
right
tonight.
C
C
I
C
The
next
question
I
got
is
actually
referring
to
the
door.
You
showed
us
a
wood
door,
the
rest
of
the
building
is
going
to
be
Hardy
and-
and
you
know,
products
that
are
going
to
withstand
the
test
of
the
environment
or
the
elements
I
should
say.
C
I
Sure
I
I
mean,
as
I
was
looking
at
doors.
I
know
there
are
steel
doors
and
other
options.
If,
if
you
know,
if
one
of
those
is
highly
preferable,
we
you
know
we
like
the
wood
door,
we
think
it.
It
looks
nice,
but
again,
if,
if
these
things
are
going
to
make
or
break
we're
willing
to
make
changes
in
those
areas,.
I
Want
to
do
the
wood
and,
to
be
frank
with
you,
my
wife
would
really
prefer
that,
rather
than
that
door,
I
showed
you
we
had
had
the
one
with
the
single
large
pane
of
glass.
I
can't
find
one
in
Wood
like
that,
so
she
doesn't
know
I'm
telling
you
I,
think
image
I'm,
showing
you
so
I.
That's
what
we're
intending
to
go
for
she's,
not
watching,
but
in
any
event
understand
what
you're
saying
we'd
prefer
the
wood.
But
again,
if
it's
anything
like
this,
that's
Make,
It
or
Break
It.
C
I
C
H
Three
events
that
were
submitted
meets
the
criteria
as
far
as
the
different
designs
that
are
out
out
there.
The
options
we
haven't
explored
we're
just
cutting
our
teeth
on
this
now.
This
is
the
first
one
that's
coming
through
in
the
upcoming
months,
we're
going
to
have
a
two-story
structure
that
has
a
little
bit
more
meat
to
it
than
than
a
one
story.
So
there
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more
involved
and
it's
a
little
disconnect
from
our
guidelines
that
we
have
now.
C
C
And
I'll
ask
this:
some
of
the
Architects
up
here
will
probably
expound
a
little
more
on
it,
but
as
far
as
the
windows
go
has
there
been
any
thought
to
adding
some
windows
on
I
mean
looking
at
the
layout
I'm,
not
even
sure,
if
an
additional
window
on
one
side
or
the
back
or
it
would
make
it
look
better,
but
I'm
not
sure
you
can
see
it
yeah.
So.
I
I
You
know
we
we're
trying
to
obviously
be
consistent
with
the
architecture
of
the
area,
but
we're
also
trying
not
to
spend
money
we
don't
have
to
so
we
didn't
plan
into
windows.
But
again
you
know,
as
I
said,
we're
we're
willing
to
to
do
what
we
need
to
do.
We
think
the
one
window
is
sufficient,
it's
similar
to
what's
there
and
has
been
there
for
50
or
60
years,
and
it's.
We
also
think
that
window
is
consistent
with
some
of
the
other
windows
on
the
main
structure.
Okay,.
C
There
are
ways
to
make
that
window
a
little
more
historically
correct.
What's
your
plan
there
as
far
as
setting
it
in
the
wall,
I
mean
I
noticed
it
was
like
a
two
by
four
framed
wall,
which
limits
what
you
can
do
as
far
as
your
seal
depth.
So
what's
your
plans?
There
I.
I
Honestly,
I'm
not
sure
I
can
answer
that
question
for
you.
You
know
we,
as
I
mentioned.
My
wife
is
a
little
bit
more
concerned
about
this
window
than
I
am,
and
we
would
like
to
find
something
that
that
has
the
look
and
feel
of
an
older
building.
That's
what
we're
going
for
I
was
struggling
to
find
something.
You
know
that
that
had
that
look,
but
you
know
certainly
glad
to
to
work
with
Mr
Villa
and
see
if
we
can
figure
out
something
that
that
looks
better
there
absolutely.
D
I
That's
an
interesting
question:
when
I
spoke
to
Mr
Villa,
he
suggested
maybe
something
slightly
different,
so
it
didn't
directly
mimic.
So
we
have
five
inch.
Exposure
on
the
house.
I
know
there's
a
six
inch
exposure
in
the
Hardy,
so
we're
thinking
something
like
that,
just
to
be
a
little
bit
different.
D
I
We
we
have
had
a
little
bit
of
water
built
up
in
the
backyard,
but
we
just
had
drains
putting
in
a
pump
put
in
the
backyard
so
that
the
water
is
now
pumped
out
our
land
runs.
You
know
down.
I
On
top
of
that,
we've
had
quite
a
bit
of
construction
of
enormous
houses
around
us
and
every
time
that
happens,
it
seems
like
they
somehow
tilt
their
land
and
more
of
it
runs
our
way.
But
we
we've
had
a
problem
with
that,
but
we
we
put
the
the
drainage
system
in
just
before
the
hurricane
in
September,
and
it
worked
like
a
charm
and
kept
it
dry.
So
it
seems
I
mean
that's
that
would
have
been
as
bad
as
we'd
ever
gotten.
D
But
what
to
suggest-
and-
and
this
depends
on
the
confidence
that
you
place
and
this
this
is
sort
of
outside-
of
the
our
purview
I'm,
just
making
a
quick
suggestion
here,
if
you're
really
confident
of
your
draining
drainage
system
and
that
you're,
you
know
that
you've
got
a
pump
and
that's
always
going
to
have
electricity,
and
you
know
all
these
things.
Otherwise,
you
want
to
be
a
little
bit
careful
about.
D
Let's
say
that
water
built
up
in
your
backyard,
it
seems
that
your
house
is
quite
a
bit
raised
from
the
from
the
finished
floor
of
the
garage,
so
you've
been
asked
to
have
these
these
hydrostatic
vents,
which
will
allow
the
any
kind
of
flood
water
to
pass
through
your
garage.
It's
also
going
to.
It
means
that
you're
you're,
assuming
that
there's
going
to
be
quite
a
bit
of
water
there
and
we're
discussing
whether
the
what
material
to
you
use
for
your
doors.
I
E
A
E
A
few
questions
myself
and
I'm
going
to
go
right
back
to
the
the
concept
of
the
doors
in
terms
of
the
materiality.
My
fellow
Commissioners
point
out
that,
even
though
this
is
a
very
modest
structure
exposed.
E
Wood
doors
to
the
weather
is
a
nightmare.
I
have
that
on
my
house
and
it's
it's
a
Monumental
pain
on
another
property,
believe
it
or
not.
We
have
just
recently
installed
a
series
of
fiberglass
doors
that
absolutely
meet
your
aesthetic
criteria.
Large
upper
Light,
Panel
bottom
painted
it
looks
like
a
million
bucks
and,
under
your
circumstances,
I
think
it's
a
material
that
you
might
want
to
very
seriously.
Consider
for
the
durability
for
the
maintainability.
That's
the
last
thing.
E
E
Between
your
presented
documents
and
photographic
evidence
of
your
site,
I
noted
that
there
was
an
existing
fence
at
one
point.
Currently,
that
kind
of
like
divides
your
driveway
between
the
house
and
the
garage
is
that
fence
going
to
be
replaced
in
any
particular
kind
or
nature
at
this
time,
or
is
that
going
to
disappear?
It's.
A
I
I
So
I've
just
drawn
in
the
back
here,
I
guess
it
doesn't
listen
sure
just
drawing
this
little
line
right
here
that
that's
where
the
current
fence
is.
It
basically
runs
from
the
back
of
the
deck
to
the
garage
itself.
I
We
were
just
planning
on
frankly
taking
off
that
portion.
It's
just
it's
a
fence
where
it's
just
nailed
up
boards,
you
know
so
it
can
it.
It's
not
so.
E
You're
modifying
an
existing
fence.
No
addition,
no
changes,
no,
nothing!
Okay,
fine!
Also
on
the
Cyclone.
Please
leave
it
up
again.
I
understand
the
driveway
I
understand
how
it
slides
past
your
existing
single-family
residence.
What
are
you
doing
if
anything
to
the
pad,
if
you
will
the
driveway
pad
at
the
front
of
your
proposed
garage?
Is
this
new
construction
or
how
are
you
dovetailing
that
into
your
existing
driveway.
I
Well,
I
guess
the
current
garage,
the
driveway
Slants
down
and
there
is
a
slight
concrete
ramp.
If
you
will
about
a
foot,
a
foot
and
a
half
deep,
we'll
be
coming
forward,
but
there's
still
that
slant
there,
so
I
think
we'd
have
to
have
that
same.
The
driveway
would
have
to
have
a
slight
ramp
into
the
garage,
but.
I
That's
a
great
question:
well
in
order
to
extend
the
the
foundation
of
the
building,
we
are
going
to
have
to
eliminate
a
little
bit
of
that
yeah,
so
we'll
be
eliminating
that
elevate
that
that
ramp.
That's
there
essentially
just
moving
it
two
feet
forward:
okay,.
E
E
Very
good,
so
we
don't
have
anything
to
worry
about
texture
matching
of
existing
materials
or
anything
else
of
that
it's
just
a
concrete,
driveway,
okay,
the
horizontal
window
you
have
is
that
operable.
Does.
I
It
is
it's
a
sliding
window
again,
you
know
my
wife
is
telling
me
I,
don't
want
that.
I
want
just
a
simple
window
that
that
doesn't
have
that
function,
but
but
trying
to
find
them
is
difficult.
There's
casement
windows,
but
we
don't
really
want
a
casement.
E
Well,
you
know,
I
was
thinking
that
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
you
pointed
out
in
part
of
your
presentation
and
I.
Think
that
may
be
fitting,
for
this
is
on
the
attic
elevation
for
your
front
elevation.
You
have
these
pairs
of
of
square
small
windows
and
a
frame
an
a
b,
a
b,
a
sort
of
an
arrangement.
Perhaps
maybe
you
want
to
think
of
instead
of
having
using
something
like
that
as
an
arrangement
for
your
horizontal
Windows?
Okay,
you
don't
have
to
have
them
divided,
they
could
be.
I
Yeah
again
that
that's
that's
something
we're
certainly
open
to
with.
If
that's
what
you
need,
I'll
convince
my
wife,
I.
E
Yeah,
my
fellow
commissioner
also
made
a
note
on
the
placement
of
the
window
itself
within
the
wall.
Our
older
structures
have
the
windows
pushed
almost
backed
or
into
the
interior,
face
of
the
of
of
of
the
structure,
leaving
that
deep
Shadow
line.
Now
you
do
have
a
two
by
four
frame,
and
typically
it's
a
thin
Type
window
that
goes
onto
the
sheathing.
If
you
use
a
block
Type
window,
one
that
would
need
grounds,
you
could
take
that
window
and
push
it
back
to
the
interior.
E
I
That
sounds,
you
know:
I
I
had
never.
These
are
things
I've
not
considered,
but
yes,
that
sounds
like
something
that
we
would
be
amenable
to
doing.
E
E
F
I
do
want
to
reiterate
that
I
think
taking
that
rectangular
plain
glass
open
window
that
you
have
and
making
it
just
two
squared
fixed
picture
windows
side
by
side
might
be
much
more
appropriate
and
you'll
get
the
same
amount
of
glass,
same
amount
of
light
and
they're
picture
windows.
They
don't
have
to
operate
and
they
don't
need
mullions,
I
think
a
pair
would
be
nice.
F
You
could
even
put
three
in
a
row
in
it
might
be
nice
I've
done
the
hydrostatic
events
in
historic
properties,
there's
very
few
that
are
historically
beautiful
or
appropriate.
They
are
what
they
are
so
I
mean
you're
going
to
get
what
you're,
what
you're
going
to
get?
Probably
with
those
the
difference
in
the
the
siding
exposure
from
five
to
six,
you
get
very
good
advice
on
that.
That's
that's
the
right
thing
to
do,
and
it
would
be.
F
It
would
definitely
be
more
appropriate
for
those
fin
those
windows
to
not
be
fin
type
Windows.
You
know
if
you're
going
to
either
do
the
horizontal
one
or
a
couple
of
squares,
and
the
fin
Type
window
is
what
it
is.
It's
a
part
of
the
window
that
just
slides
down
in
the
front
of
the
framing
and
that's
how
it's
installed
a
non-fin
Type
window
is,
is
better
to
push
back
and
get
the
shadow
line
and
but
otherwise.
F
Yeah,
it's
a
simple
project,
you're
doing
the
right
thing.
I
also,
don't
think
you
really
have
to
worry
about.
You
know
if
and
I
don't
know
if
you've
consulted
with
with
anybody,
but
you
don't
really
have
to
worry
about
venting
an
attic
in
in
this
type
of
construction.
It's.
B
So
I
had
just
a
few
questions.
If
you
could
put
the
wall
section
detail
sheet
up
that
you
had
before
I
just
want
to
look
at
some
of
those.
We
really
didn't
touch
on
any
of
those.
B
Draftsman
I
just
wanted
to
confirm.
It
looks
like
the
the
entire
soffit
area
is
all
enclosed
you're
not
going
to
see
rafter
Tails
or
anything
like
that,
correct,
okay
and
then
for
the
face
ship.
Where
do
you
have
an
understanding
of
what
the
material
is?
How
it's
going
to
be
closed
off?
I
assume
it's
all
Hardy,
because
you
said
it
was
all.
B
Then,
for
the
profile
do
you
have
do
you
know
that
dimensional
number
for
the
profile,
I'm.
A
B
B
B
It
okay
and
then,
if
we
could
run
if
we
could
zoom
back
out
on
this
page,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
there's
anything
else
here.
I
want
to
look
at
in
some
detail.
Thank
you.
B
Can
we
zoom
in
on
the
upper
left
corner?
Please
there's
soon
to
be
some
details
up
there.
A
B
A
F
Other
the
other
sheet
that
had
wall
sections
on
it,
your
draftsman
is
clearly
you
know,
didn't
design
this.
For
a
for
a
flood
area,
I
mean
it's,
it's
not
part
of
his
purview,
so
to
speak,
but
where
those,
if
you
could
put
up
the
other
wall
section
that
has
the
actual
wall
frame
on
it,
that's
good
in
the
bottom
right,
there
he's
got
the
studs
coming
all
the
way
down
to
the
slab
and
then
you're
venting
through
that
wall
for
flood
purposes,
and
this
is
not
a
question.
F
It's
more
a
practical
detail
in
that,
instead
of
bringing
the
studs
all
the
way
down
past,
where
the
flood
relief
needs
to
be
is
to
actually
build
a
concrete,
curb,
okay
and
put
the
flood
vent
in
a
concrete,
curb
and
then
have
the
stud
come
down
on
top
of
that,
and
that
way
you
won't
have
wood
rotting.
If
the
water
does
get
through
the
garage,
you
won't
have
your
wood
studs
rotting
and
all
that
kind
of
thing.
I
B
Arc
I
do
want
to
say,
though
it's
historically
accurate,
I
have
a
garage
from
1938.
there
you
go
in
it
and
I
agree
with
everything
said.
However,
it
is
not
under
our
purview
to
tell
you
how
to
design
that's
where
either
a
structural
engineer
or
an
architect
and
or
a
builder
should
come
into
play
and
make
sure
that
you're
getting
the
correct
drawings.
F
C
Yeah
and
and
I
had
a
question,
there's
now
a
follow-up
question,
but
it
was
have
you
thought
about
using
a
masonry
product?
A
block
in
lieu
of
wood
framed
I
mean
root.
Framed
is
historically
correct
and
I
get
all
that,
but
the
block
thickness
of
the
block
wall,
as
well
as
it
being
blocked
May
alleviate
some
of
these
other
questions
that
we've
got
regarding
Windows
Shadow
lines
and
different
things
of
that
nature,
as
well.
So
again,.
C
It's
just
pretty
obvious
that
this
plan
you
know
I
get.
They
probably
realize
that
it's
going
to
do
a
flood
plain,
but
it's
not
really
drawn
for
that
and
again
I
feel
like
Commissioners
may
get
on
to
me
for
asking
about
block
but
I'm
just
asking
just
so
again
as
we
go
into
discussion.
We
kind
of
know
everything
to
discuss
here
right.
I
Is
it
something
we
had
considered?
No,
it
is
not
I
I
have
no
no
idea
of
the
difference
in
terms
of
the
cost
of
one
versus
the
other.
You
know
from
our
perspective,
we've
had
this
concrete
block,
Square
sitting
in
our
backyard
forever.
We
think
what
we're
going
to
replace
it
with
is
going
to
be
a
lot
nicer
and
a
lot
more
appropriate
to
the
neighborhoods.
So,
but
we
also,
you
know,
don't
want
to
invest
everything.
We've
got
in
in
a
one.
C
Some
of
our
line
of
questioning
here
is
actually
more
out
of
concern
than
it
is
sure.
What
we're
actually
here
for
the
curve
is
a
great
idea,
but
you
know
no
one
has
seen
what
we
saw.
I
realized
you've
put
in
a
new
drainage
system.
C
Again
you
lose
power,
unfortunately,
unless
you've
got
a
generator
that
no
longer
works.
The
way
this
is
built
if
it's
built
on
grade.
Basically,
if
you
get
three
four
inches
of
water
standing
in
your
backyard,
now
you've
got
water
going
through
wood.
Typically,
this
type
of
construction
is
only
going
to
have
pressure
treated
at
the
ground
level
from
there
up.
It's
just
wood.
On
top
of
that,
all
your
trim
boards,
all
your
drywall
everything's,
going
to
be
soaking,
wet
and,
unfortunately,
fiberglass
insulation,
which
is
also
in
these
walls,
Wicks
water.
C
So
it
just
is
going
to
create
quite
a
few
issues
for
you
down
the
road,
so
they're
they're
probably
needs
to
be
some
some
additional
thoughts
there.
Now
how
you
attack
it
and
how
you
resolve
it.
Obviously
that's
up
to
you.
What
we're
here
to
do
is
to
approve
something
that
looks
like
we
wanted
to
look
in
the
neighborhood,
so.
I
I
There's
nothing
I
really
feel
like
I
need
to
rebut.
I
will
just
mention
it's
totally
irrelevant
to
this,
but
when
we
sent
out
our
notifications
to
the
neighbors
I
learned
that
Andre
vasilevsky,
the
goalie
for
the
bolts
lives
around
the
corner
from
me
and
my
daughter
was
really
hoping.
He
would
show
up
tonight
too
to
oppose
our
project.
But
I
don't
see
him
here
so.
C
F
No
I
think
the
only
thing
I
really
have
an
issue
with
is
the
from
an
art
from
an
arc
standpoint
is
the
horizontal
window
that
was
shown
to
be
a
slider
operable
slider
window,
because
that's
what
was
presented
and
I
think
that
would
be
inappropriate
if
anything
they'll.
If
it's
going
to
stay
a
rectangle,
it
could
be
a
fixed
picture
window
or
a
couple
of
squares
side
by
side.
I
think
is
even
more
appropriate.
F
Otherwise,
I,
really
you
know,
there's
I
don't
have
any
other
problems.
I.
B
B
D
And
also
those
those
small
windows
can
very
easily
be
made
casements
if.
B
D
B
C
E
A
E
Think
one
of
the
things
that
they
might
need
to
do
is
to
make
a
coordination
with
staff
on
that,
because
the
deeper
sections,
the
thicker
sections
for
these
would
give
a
bigger
Shadow
line
to
the
structure.
E
E
C
E
E
Would
think
of
of
adding
on
this
thing,
because
you
know
the
hydrostatic
fence
I
agree,
they
are
what
they
are
I
mean
I
wish
we
had
great
choices
for
the
matter.
The.
B
All
right
so
I
think
there
are
a
few
things
we
talked
about
that.
Perhaps
we
would
want
to
consider
as
conditions
one
was
the
three
and
a
half
or
five
and
a
half
hearty
trim
at
the
casing.
D
To
add
to
that:
okay,
move
to
Grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
drawings
and
documents
presented
at
this
public
Hearing
in
Arc
23-22
for
the
property
located
at
1708
West
Richardson
Avenue,
with
the
following
Richard
Richardson
place
with
the
following
conditions
that
the
applicant
shall
coordinate
the
selection,
the
final
selection
for
vents
doors
window
and
trim
with
staff,
and
also
present
and
coordinate
with
staff,
the
details
for
the
installation
of
the
doors
and
the
windows
and
the
trim,
because,
based
upon
the
finding
of
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
Hyde
Park
design,
guidelines
of
the
city
of
Tampa.
D
It
is
consistent
with
materials
and
materials,
scale
and
location
within
the
for
accessory
buildings
within
the
historic
district.
B
F
B
Sir,
before
we
vote,
do
you
understand
the
condition
that
you
can
come
forward?
You
understand
the
conditions
that
were
set
forth
with
the
motion
here
tonight.
I.
H
H
H
I
had
advised
the
applicant
and
he's
going
to
address
the
variance
first,
you
could
discuss
the
variance.
I
do
have
John
Marshall
Transportation.
Here
he
wants
to
enter
some
things
into
the
record
when
the
time
is
right.
If
you
look
on
page
three
of
the
staff
report,
there
has
been
some
previous
action
in
2000.
H
Excuse
me
in
1993
the
boa,
which
is
the
board
of
adjustments
approved
for
the
reduction
for
the
front
yard,
to
10
foot
the
rear
yard
to
zero
and
the
side
yards
is
zero
and
and
in
1993
there
was
a
one-story
structure
accessory
structure
as
a
bill.
I'll
show
you
that,
through
my
photo
presentation,
so
there's
already
a
one-story
accessory
structure.
That's
there.
The
access
from
the
alley
for
the
vehicular
axis
is
at
16
foot
and
that's.
Why
he's
asking
for
the
reduction?
H
It's
an
existing
condition,
which
will
be
apparent
through
the
through
the
photos
in
2014
this
this
owner
here,
that's
coming
forward
had
asked
for
a
variance
for
the
rear
yard
reduction
from
three
foot
zero
as
he
was
requesting
this
evening,
but
he
has
modified
that
that
has
been
granted.
We
do
have
the
drawings
from
that
hearing
if
you
want
to
see
it
and
that
received
an
approval
from
four
to
zero
in
approval
for
the
rear
yard
reduction
and
the
addition
for
the
Second
Story
accessory
structure
as
it's
being
presented
this
evening.
H
The
property
in
question
is
highlighted
in
the
green
parcel
it
does
face
Newport
to
nor,
if
you
have
Inman
to
the
South,
you
have
Morrison
and
continuing
to
the
South.
You
see
Bayshore
Boulevard.
There
is
an
existing
16
foot
alley
in
place
and
that's
how
he
comes
into
this
structure
and
he
leaves
there
also
is
a
garage
door
in
the
front
from
the
primary
street.
H
But
it's
a
through
a
garage
at
this
point
and
and
in
1990
excuse
me
in
1929
there
was
an
accessory
structure
that
is
indicated
on
the
Sanborn
that
has
been
removed
and
through
the
aerial
you
see,
this
is
Newport.
This
is
the
the
subject:
parcel
the
primary
structure
and
the
detached
ancestry
structure.
As
it
says
today
you
see
the
the
gable
roof.
H
H
This
is
looking
at
the
garage
door
off
the
alley.
This
is
a
16
foot
alley
just
wanted
to
point
out
as
well.
There's
an
old
cladding
when
this
came
forward
and
it
was
approved
two
of
the
elevations
have
wood
siding
on
it.
It's
the
the
elevation
that
faces
the
primary
Street
and
in
the
interior
yard,
the
two
other
elevations,
the
elevation
that
faces
the
alley
and
the
elevation
that
abuts
the
neighbor
are
exposed
CMU.
So
that's
part
of
the
staff
report.
What
is
he
going
to
do
as
he
comes
forward.
H
This
is
looking
at
the
accessory
structure
from
the
internal.
You
see
the
pavers
here,
so
This
Is
How
They
access
it
from
the
primary
Street
you
see.
The
cladding
here
is
appropriate.
This
is
the
cladding.
That's
currently
there
on
the
interior
side
just
want
to
show
you.
This
is
a
non-contributing
structure.
The
the
host
structure
is
made
out
of
CMU.
H
H
And
to
complete
the
rear,
this
is
the
existing
accessory
structure,
there's
a
little
bit
of
room
between
the
primary
and
the
outdoor
patio.
If
you
will
and
then
the
pool
area.
That
concludes
the
photo
presentation
they're
here.
If
you
need
them
for
clarification
at
this
time,
I'm
gonna
have
the
owner
come
forward
to
adjust
the
variance
the
variance
questions
are
attached
to
your
staff
report
they're
in
the
back,
and
you
can
follow
along.
J
Good
evening
my
name
is
Gregory
Carney
and
I'm.
The
owner
of
833
South
Newport
Avenue,
as
Mr
Beulah
introduced.
The
first
order
of
business
would
be
to
discuss
the
variants
in
regards
to
the
alley.
This
is
the
site
plan
and
we
see
this
is
the.
This
is
the
house.
This
is
the
existing
structure,
with
the
proposed
Second
Story
that
we'll
be
discussing
and
over
here
is
the
alley.
The
alley
right
now
is
16
feet.
When
I
bought
the
house
in
2014.
That's
how
it
was
the
structure
existed.
The
alley
was
16
feet.
J
We
do
access
the
alley
for
our
primary
coming
and
going
and
we've
gotten
very
good
at
negotiating
that
very
small
space.
J
This
is
a
picture
of
the
alley.
This
is
our
garage.
We
have
backup
mirrors
on
both
sides
and
I'll
show
another
picture
showing
the
other
backup
mirror.
This
is
the
extent
of
the
alley.
There
is
a
telephone
pole
right
here,
so
there's
really
no
way
to
for
the
alley
to
get
any
any
wider.
This
is
all
right.
This
is
the
probably
the
structure
that
exists
on
the
property
line
you
can
see.
Our
neighbors
also
have
an
accessory
structure.
That
does
the
same
thing
and
then
this
is
our
back
neighbor's
fence.
J
So
again,
this
is
something
that
we
came
into.
We
didn't
create
this
this
issue
and
we
were
originally
I.
Guess
the
the
property
was
originally
granted
of
variance
to
build
in
this
way,
so
we're
just
asking
to
have
a
16
foot
instead
of
a
24
foot
back
out,
I
speak
quickly.
If
you
ever
need
me
to
slow
down,
please
tell
me.
B
J
Originally
we
had,
we
were
also
thinking
of
putting
the
Second
Story
all
the
way
to
the
edge
of
the
existing
building,
but
after
discussions
with
Mr,
Beeler
has
decided
that
it
would
just
be
simpler
to
modify
the
footprint
of
the
Second
Story
to
come
in
three
feet
from
the
existing
structure,
so
that
we
didn't
need
that
variance.
So
now
the
current.
The
current
variance
that
we
are
asking
for
is
for
that
24
foot
to
16
foot
for
the
alleged
hardships
or
practical
difficulties,
there's
an
existing
alley
and
there's
an
existing
structure.
J
We'd
like
to
keep
both,
as
is
the
hardship,
does
not
result
from
actions
the
applicant
all
of
those
things
existed
when
when
we
purchased
the
property
and
have
been
the
same
since
it
should
not
interfere
with
any
health
safety
or
welfare
of
others.
As
it's
existed
this
way
for
approximately
30
years
now,
it
is
in
harmony
with
the
general
internal
purpose
of
the
the
chapter
as
it
was,
as
the
variance
was
granted
previously.
J
This
the
whole
the
whole
point
of
our
asking
for
the
variances,
so
that
we
can
capture
the
additional
square
footage
that
we're
entitled
to
in
our
property,
and
so
in
order
for
us
to
be
able
to
do
that,
we
would
need
the
bearing
so
I
do
believe
that
substantial
Justice
would
come
through
the
granting
of
this
variance,
and
we
certainly
intend
to
stay
consistent
with
the
design
standards
of
The
Arc
in
Hyde
Park
in
the
second
story.
So
this
wouldn't
would
not
alter
any
of
those
plans.
H
K
John
Marsh
transportation,
engineering
division,
Transportation
objects
on
the
bay
to
finding
it
inconsistent
with
chapter
27,
283
12h,
2B,
that,
as
the
applicants
previous
stated,
the
the
the
current
code,
the
backup
requirement
is
24
feet.
It's
only
16
feet.
Transportation
concedes
that
this
is
an
existing
condition
that
was
granted
under
previous
code
and
that
the
current
project
does
not
change
the
operation
of
people
entering
or
exiting
the
garage.
K
However,
our
interpretation
was
that
by
adding
the
additional
space,
he's
increasing
a
non-conformity
under
the
current
code
and
therefore
he
would
need
the
he
would
need
this
waiver
in
order
to
make
it
correct
under
the
code.
The
the
garages
on
the
on
the
light
on
the
lot
line,
especially
in
this
alley,
has
been
a
really
hot
topic
that
we've
enforced
on
the
other
locations.
So,
in
order
for
this
to
go
forward,
I
believe
it
needs
the
variance.
B
B
C
A
D
H
D
H
D
D
D
D
D
H
You
you
can
do
a
variance,
but
when
staff
consults
with
the
applicants
moving
forward,
we
ask
for
them
to
come
forward
with
the
least
amount
of
variance
as
possible.
Can
this
project
move
forward
without
the
variance
and
through
different
iterations
it
can
come
forward
without
one
of
the
variances
the
other
ones
are
given
is
a
constant.
It's
there.
You
know
he's
just
kind
of
cleaning
up
the
record
for
lack
of
better
words.
B
G
H
It's
coming
years
later,
it's
coming
30
years
later,
he
has
the
ability
to
construct
what
he
wants,
with
removing
one
of
the
variances
to
dimensional
variants.
So
in
consultation
with
us,
as
I
stated,
if
you
could,
if
your
project
could
come
forward
without
the
variance
request,
that's
what
we
try
to
put
the
applicants,
but.
F
H
A
H
So
the
two
that
are
pertinent
this
evening
is
the
rear
yard
to
zero,
which
the
garage
door
is
almost
to
zero,
the
the
constructions
to
zero
the
garage
door
set
in
slightly
right.
You
know
six
inches
and
then
I
showed
through
my
pictures,
the
abutting
property.
You
saw
that
there
was
no
overhang
to
that
side
because
the
body
of
the
buildings
to
zero.
So
it
comes
straight
down
right,
so
that
was
constructed
that
was
granted
and
constructed
in
1993..
H
H
F
B
K
This
well
I'm,
not
sure
if
it's
exactly
this
alley,
but
we've
had
a
number
of
other
locations
where
in
Hyde
Park
where
people
have
because
the
these
these
garages
have
been
like
this
forever
and
then
they
want
to
build
a
new
garage
and
that
we're
enforcing
the
24-foot
setback.
According
to
the
current
code,.
C
B
E
If
I
may
I'd
like
to
address
my
fellow
Commissioners
conundrum,
with
respect
to
the
existing
zoning
ordinances,
the
variance
granted
to
the
original
structure,
you
know
granted,
that
is
a
chunk
of
History
that
if
you
were
going
it
doesn't
matter,
you
know
what
the
history
of
the
fabric
is.
You
make
an
addition
of
any
kind
horizontally
or
vertically
that
is
not
conforming
and
that
that
too
has
to
have
the
variances
involved.
E
Really
I
have
no
objection
to
this
variance;
it
is
in
existing
condition,
and
this
is
what
the
various
type
situations
are
made
for:
conditions
that
are
brought
To
Us
by
that
existing
condition
and
it's
existing
conflicts
with
everything
else
around
it.
It's
a
given
I
think
so,
I
think
personally,
I
think.
C
My
only
concern
kind
of
goes
back,
there's
not
a
lot
of
questioning
of
Precedence
and
I
realize
it's
an
existing
condition,
which
is
unfortunate
right
now,
but
there
is
no
one
here
to
speak
against
or
for
for
that
matter,
but
maybe
they're
all
wanting
the
same
thing
so
that
this
is
just
food
for
thought.
You
know
it's
just
kind
of
with
my
my
head
is
right
now
is,
is:
are
we
opening
the
floodgates
potentially.
D
Well,
I
feel
that
this
it
is
a
different
matter
when
someone
is
making
an
addition-
and
they
are
not.
You
know
he
is
he's
not
asking
for
that
three
and
three
foot.
You
know
that
three
additional
feet
so
he's
going
to
be
within
within
the
within
the
code
for
the
three
foot
on
the
second
floor,
and
he
has
this
existing
building,
which
is
non-conforming
but
he's
not
making
the
only
thing
he's
changing
is
the
you
know
the
second
floor
of
it
and
it's
back.
B
Another
thing
I
want
to
point
out
is
that
is
that
first,
the
first
statement
is
related
to
a
unique
condition
on
that
particular
property
and
and
the
question
of
whether
or
not
we're
opening
up
the
floodgates.
We've
kind
of
discussed
this
before
I
think
it's
some
other
variance
requests
is
that
each
individual
property
is
a
unique
property.
When
we
consider
variances,
that's
the
way,
we're
supposed
to
approach
them
and
so
to
think
that
we're
we're
setting
some
sort
of
precedent
that
will
let
everybody
build
a
new
garage
with.
B
Feet
lot
is
not
what
we're
doing
here
and
I
I
think
that
needs
to
be
stated
very
emphatically
and
clearly
we're
not
saying
that
we're
changing
an
ordinance
that
allows
you
to
do
that.
What
we're!
What
we're
saying
is
that
we
agree.
It's
a
unique
condition
to
this
property,
and
this
owner
is
not
stating
I
want
to
continue
to
build.
I
want
to
build
an
additional
garage
door
opening
at
the
same
distance.
If
he
came
to
us
and
said
today,
I
need
a
third
car
space.
B
He
he
can
come
here
and
say
well,
I
built
the
this
was
built
this
way,
and
so
it's
it's
a
it's
a
grandfather,
condition
sure,
but
that
new
garage
door
opening
I
doubt
that
any
of
us
would
agree
that
he
could
put
it
at
zero
lot.
Right.
I
think
we
would
all
agree
that
you're
you've
done
this
to
yourself.
You
decided
you
needed
a
new
thing
and
it
needs
to
be
compliant
right
with
us
and
with
the
codes
and
the
ordinances
in
the
city.
B
So
I
think
that's
a
big
point
of
fact
that
we
all
need
to
be
mindful
of
when
we're
talking
about
the
zoning.
The
variance
request.
E
B
E
D
Change
I'll
go
ahead,
move
that
the
variance
request
for
Arc
23-60
for
the
property
located
at
833
South
Newport
Avenue,
be
granted
as
depicted
on
the
site
as
depicted
on
the
site
plan
presented
at
the
public
hearing
for
a
backup
reduction
from
24
feet
to
16
feet
based
upon
the
petitioner
meeting
the
burden
of
proof
with
regard
to
the
six
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27-114,
D
of
the
city
of
Tampa
code
of
ordinances
for
granting
variances.
E
B
Was
that
was
that
a
five
okay
carries
five
to
zero?
Congratulations!
So
we'll
move
on
to
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
portion.
J
So,
thank
you
for
the
variation,
so
so,
as
we've
discussed,
the
the
point
of
the
variation
was
to
then
try
to
get
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
a
second
story.
Addition
to
the
existing
garage.
J
The
point
of
the
of
the
second
story
is,
as
I
alluded
to
before,
is
to
capture
that
extra,
approximately
260
square
feet,
to
which
we're
entitled
that
we
otherwise
wouldn't
be
able
to
utilize.
You
know
these.
These.
The
amount
of
property
in
High
Park
is
relatively
small,
so
we
want
to
try
to
maximize
what
we've
got.
So
the
idea
is
to
use
the
existing
structure.
It
is
concrete
block.
Construction
built
in
1993
seems
like
it's
in
very
good
shape
can
support
a
second
story.
J
We've
worked
with
Mr
Beulah
to
try
to
come
up
with
a
floor
plan
that
is,
is
conforming,
including
the
three
foot
setback
and
is
consistent
with
the
with
both
our
house
and
Hyde
Park.
So,
let's
see
back
to
our
floor
plan
and
sorry
our
Start
Plan
again,
this
is
the
existing
structure.
This
is
the
the
footprint
of
the
proposed
Second
Story,
with
stairs
going
up
the
the
one
side
to
a
door
that
would
allow
access.
J
These
are
elevations
and
the
wall
structure,
so
here
we
see
this
would
be.
This
would
be
looking
from
the
house
towards
the
garage
in
the
second,
the
second
story
structure,
which
would
be
this
hear
the
stairs
that
are
going
up
to
it.
The
garage
door
exists
and
the
at
this
time
there's
a
wood
siding
on
this
facade
of
the
of
the
existing
structure.
This
is
the
south
facing
side.
It
also
has
existing
wood
siding.
We
have
a
staircase
going
up
here.
J
We
plan
on
using
Hardie
board,
setting
on
the
second
story
structure
and
cladding
it
on
all
four
sides,
despite
the
fact
that
the
alley
side
of
the
garage
and
as
we
discussed
the
side,
the
north
side,
that
faces
my
neighbor's
property,
those
are
those
are
just
concrete
block
which
has
been
painted,
but
at
least
the
alley
side
of
the
garage
which
we
see
here
below
the
the
second
story
structure.
We
would
plan
to
clad
and
Hardy
Board,
both
top
and
bottom.
J
So
this
area
right
here
currently
is
just
exposed
concrete
block
with
paint
over,
but
we
would
clad
down.
We
would
try
to.
We
would
try
to
match
the
Hardy
Board
to
the
existing
wood,
siding
on
the
main
house
same
with
the
roof.
We
would
want
to
use
asphalt,
shingles,
which
is,
which
is
what
is
currently
on
the
house
and
the
the
existing
garage.
This
part
of
the
garage
wouldn't
be
altered,
so
this
would
be
the
existing
roof,
with
the
existing
shingles
existing
garage
door
and
we'd
like
to
keep
that
all.
J
As
is
over.
Here,
we
have
the
the
wall
section
and
I've
blown
that
up
a
little
bit,
because
I
personally
wasn't
able
to
read
it
just
on
that
on
that
that
one
sheet
so
I
wanted
to
make
it
a
little
bit
bigger
for
you.
J
J
This
would
be
really
our
only
light
that
we
plan
on
having
the
exterior.
We
actually
have
these
on
the
back
of
the
house
now
on
the
porch,
so
it
would
just
match,
what's
already
there
for
some
reference
we
did
as
as
Mr
below
said,
we
did
have
an
approval
for
a
second
story
structure
back
in
2014..
J
We
also
at
the
same
time
got
an
approval
for,
in
addition
to
the
main
house,
we
went
through
with
the
addition
to
the
main
house
and
at
that
point
we're
sort
of
sick
of
construction
and
coffers
were
running
low.
So
we
decided
to
put
this
off.
We
didn't
realize
that
it
expired
in
five
years.
So
that's
why
we're
back
at
it
asking
for
it
again.
This
is
elevations
from
the
original
plan.
You
can
see
it's
actually
pretty
similar.
We
actually
had
an
additional
storage
room
at
that
time
that
we're
not
asking
for
now.
J
So
this
is
the.
This
is
the
second
story.
This
is
the
existing.
This
is
the
second
story
that
was
approved,
here's
another
rendering
of
the
Second
Story,
which
was
approved
over
here,
for
we
know
that
the
a
lot
of
times
the
entire
second
floor
is,
is
occupied
for
for
a
over
garage
apartment
or
mother-in-law.
Suite
we'd
love
to
do
that,
but
we
know
that
there's
a
900
square
foot
total
under
roof
restriction,
so
we
were
trying
to
stay
within
that.
J
We
tried
different
configurations
in
terms
of
putting
the
second
story
in
the
middle
or
towards
the
edge.
It
actually
looks
better
towards
the
edge
and
I
just
wanted
to
use
this
as
an
as
an
example.
This
was
recently
finished.
It's
it's
at
the
end
of
our
block
at
the
corner
of
Inman
and
Newport,
and
it
was
just
finished
in
2022,
and
this
is
this
is
part
of
what
inspired
us
to
go
with
the
offset
design.
B
Thank
you,
sir.
We'll
have
staff
come
up
and
read
the
report.
H
Good
evening,
Commissioners
Ron
Villa
staff
with
historic
praise,
preservation
SAS
finding
this
application
is
consistent
with
a
Hyde
Park
design
guidelines
just
to
go
over
some
of
the
numbers.
The
existing
one-story
accessory
structure
footprint
is
640
square
feet,
he's
adding
approximately
260
square
foot
upstairs
and
the
second
floor
to
equal
the
900
square
foot
that
is
allowed
and
he's
entitled
to
under
the
rs60
zoning
classification
on
the
plans.
I
wanted
him
to
indicate
the
setback
from
the
Second
Story.
The
one-story
footprint
has
already
been
approved,
as
zero
has
been
built
has
been
coed.
H
He
has
not
increasing
the
non-conformity.
I
think
that's
the
the
language
that
you
were
looking
for
to
the
garage
that
non-conformity
is
existing,
he's,
not
modifying
that
the
final
solution
for
the
entire
building,
the
cladding
around
the
whole
building.
He
has
some
wood
siding.
He
has
some
CA
CMU
exposed.
He
talked
about
introducing
Hardy
so
to
gather
a
more
developed
program.
H
Maybe
the
introduction
of
some
windows
could
be
a
discussion
from
this
board
and
if
this
project
is
to
move
forward
a
design
exception,
one
is
required.
That
is
a
zoning
application
that
is
made.
That
is
an
internal
function
that
zoning
and
preservation
looks
at
and
if
he
keeps
the
total
height
under
22
and
a
half
foot
is
something
that
we
did
it
relatively
approved.
That
concludes
my
portion.
I'll,
be
here
to
answer
any
questions.
B
F
Hi
hi,
could
you
put
the
elevations
back
up
please?
Yes,
sir.
F
Okay,
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
point
out
and
notice.
That
is
that
you,
your
main
house,
has
very
prominent
exposed.
Rafter
Tails.
Were
you
planning
on
exposing
the
Raptor
Tails
of
this
second
floor
Edition
I
was
I
was
not
okay,.
J
F
Okay,
you
mentioned
that
you
were
also
think
you,
you
I,
think
you
started
saying
we're
putting
Hardy
on
all
sides
of
the
house.
You
can
install
it
on
the
side
of
the
house.
It
faces
the
other
garage,
there's
just
no
room
to
install
anything
on
that
side,
correct,
I'm,
sorry,
the
is
there
room
on
the
side
of
the
house
that
faces
the
adjacent
properties
garage
to
actually
do
I.
J
J
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
so
the
the
just.
J
Yeah,
the
south
side
and
the
east
side
are
currently
currently
have
wood.
The
plan
was
that,
on.
J
Below
here,
to
put
the
put
the
Hardy
Board
over
the
concrete
block,
we
can
extend
it
over
here.
This
is
a
very
small
space.
This
is,
this
is
just
I
think,
maybe
one
concrete
block
wide,
so
something
a
foot
and
then
this
narrow
header
that
may
also
be
a
bit
of
a
challenge
in
terms
of
fighting
Hardie
board,
certainly
plan
to
put
the
Hardy
Board
down
on
the
Alley
side,
all
the
way
to
the
ground
at
the
large
area
of
exposed,
concrete
block.
J
The
four
walls
that
I
was
referring
to
is
the
Second
Story
okay.
So
all
four
walls
of
the
extra
walls
of
the
Second
Story
would
be
clad.
F
Understood
I,
it
would
not
be
a
problem
really
to
run
it
across
the
this
alley.
Face
either.
Okay,
it
did
any
contractor,
wouldn't
charge
you
that
much
more
at
all
to
to
continue
it
across
and
down
that
little
piece
on
the
side.
Okay,
it's
very
little
material.
B
D
Yeah
I
guess.
My
only
question
is
that
this
is
a
relatively
small
room.
I
suspect
that
the
only
thing
that
you
could
do
to
make
this
even
more
commodious
is
to
to
take
the
roof
off
your
garage
and
put
a
deck
up
there.
But
that's
obviously
not
part
of
your
thought
process.
J
We
had
thought
about
it
and
in
one
of
the
Premier
one
of
the
permutations
of
the
design,
we
had
moved
the
the
Second
Story
to
the
middle
of
the
garage,
with
the
idea
that
the
that
that
would
become
where
the
roof
had
been
taken
off
would
become
a
deck.
We
think
it
looks
better
like
this,
so
that's
why
we
limited
the
deck
now,
if
you'd
like
to
invoke
powers
to
give
us
an
entire
second
story,
I'll
take
it
that
will
give
us
a
lot
more
room,
I'd
be
happy
to
do
that.
D
Okay,
very
good
I
also
feel
like.
D
Perhaps
the
window,
let's
see
the
windows
facing
your
house,
you
could
reconsider
their
their
Dimension
I
don't
know.
Do
you
have
roughly
Square
Windows
on
your
existing
home
yeah.
D
So
they
might,
they
might
want
to
it
might
be
good
to
have
them
be
that
more
beautiful
I
have
no
further
questions.
Thank
you.
Oh
excuse
me.
One
thing,
the
section
that
you
show
us
the
second
floor
wall,
section
yes
on
that's
on
the
overhead
right
now
is
incorrect
right,
because
you've
you're,
showing
that
it's
you're
showing
a
wood
wall
with
insulation
in
it,
it
seems.
J
H
D
And
then
that
then
we
also
in
our
standard
request,
is
that
you
have
the
same
Shadow
line
that
the
window
appears
to
be
set
into
the
wall
somewhat,
and
we
would
also
like
to
see
that
on
this
okay
and
I'm
sure
that
your
existing
house
has
that
has
a
similar
detail.
So
you
just
it.
Could
you
just
want
to
say
I
will
make
it
look
like
my
house.
J
J
F
A
A
F
B
J
I
was
asked
about
that
as
well
and
again,
this
is
you
know.
I
have
I,
do
have
a
contractor
that
I'm
working
with-
and
this
was
this-
was
drawn
up
by
draftman.
This
is
really
beyond
my
knowledge
of
the
of
the
of
that
part
of
the
plan.
So
if
that's
something
that
we
should
have
happy
to
have
it,
if
it's
something
you
guys
don't
like,
we
can
eliminate
it.
J
J
Think
that,
in
this
instance,
and
particularly
the
the
slope
line,
our
primary
House
part
of
the
curb
appeal
part
of
the
the
aesthetic
of
the
house
is
that
it
has
very
steep
pitch
I.
Think
it's
I
think
that
it
would
be
too
dramatic
for
the
remainder
of
the
existing
building,
and
so
we
had
discussed
that
and
that's
a
and
even
carrying
through
some
of
the
the
architectural
embellishments
of
the
front
facade
of
the
house
was
considered.
But
because
it's
not
actually
going
on
the
house
is
going
on
this
accessory
structure.
J
B
A
B
J
J
Incorrectly,
our
fir
our
first
set
of
plans
was
to
go
all
the
way
to
the
back
and
again,
in
speaking
with
staff,
it
was
recommended
that
fewer
variations
was
better
as
long
as
I
got
the
square
footage
that
was
fine
with
me,
I
discussed
it
with
the
builder
who
said
that
it
wouldn't
be
difficult
to
support
that
to
support
the
structure,
even
though
we
weren't
going
to
the
external
wall.
So
that's
that's
correct.
Our
our
plans
now
reflect
three
coming
in
three
feet
and
I
believe
on
the
site
plan.
B
You
put
up
the
image
of
the
garage
I
think
it
was
a
blue
structure
that
you
had
shown
just
a
little
bit
ago
towards
the
end
of
your
presentation.
J
J
There
was
consideration.
We
certainly
want
there
to
be
enough
light
coming
through,
but
at
the
same
time,
with
the
window
on
that
side,
it
just
looks
out
over
the
alley,
so
we
didn't
feel
we
felt
like
it
may
be
better
to
have
additional
wall
space
rather
than
have
an
additional
window
there.
The
plan
is
to
use
this
as
a
most
of
the
time
gym
and
an
occasional
guest
apartment,
so
we
do
want
to
put
in
either
a
Murphy
bed
or
some
other
structure
on
one
of
the
walls.
J
So
anyway
we
had
thought
about
it.
We
did.
We
decided
that
a
solid
wall
on
that
side
made
more
sense.
D
J
And
and
I
can
show
you
the
floor
plan
that
reflects
that.
B
Is
a
very,
very
small
space?
Yes,
so
I
I
wanted
to
understand
more
about
the
doors
and
the
windows.
Did
you
show
us
a
cut
sheet
for
a
door
I,
don't
remember
seeing
that.
J
I
did
not
so.
J
Is
to
is
to
keep
it
consistent
with
the
existing
door
on
the
first
floor
and
we
did
plan
on
using
Sierra
Pacific
windows
for
the
as
the
windows.
So.
J
J
Sierra
Pacific,
Brand
I
think
wood
windows
with
aluminum
cloud.
J
B
Considering
that
this
will
be
living
space,
I
would
assume
that
you're
introducing
some
sort
of
AC
right.
That's.
J
On
using
a
split
mini,
split.
B
J
B
The
stairs-
okay,
yes
and
then
in
terms
of
your
existing
fence,
which
I
believe
you
have
that's.
J
A
J
This
is
roughly
what
what
we
would
be
planning,
not
the
not
the
additional.
B
So
in
indeed
the
style
that
is
represented
in
this
correct,
with
the
top
rail,
the
the
spindles
all
having
an
angled
end
piece
to
them
as
they
come
down
and
meet
the
bottom
rail.
A
B
J
B
J
B
J
J
That's
a
good
question:
I
hadn't,
given
it
haven't
hadn't,
given
that
consideration
I'm
sure
that
we
would
want
water
to
be
able
to
flow
through
it.
But
okay.
J
B
B
J
B
D
J
D
Okay,
so
that
means
really
that
then
the
the
gable
vent
goes
away
so
not
needed.
That
makes
sense.
B
One
more
thing:
did
you
show
less
Hardware
I,
remember
the
lighting.
J
Did
you
I
did
not
I
did
not
show
Hardware,
we
would
just
keep
it
consistent
with
the
with
the
other
Hardware.
That's
existing
on
the
on
the
on
the
building.
A
B
Thank
you
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
the
portion
of
the
hearing
and
we
will
discuss
the
case.
Thank
you.
You're
welcome.
So
I
heard
that
the
applicant
was
open
to
removing
the
gable
vent
was
open
to
reconsidering
the.
B
The
geometry
of
the
windows,
however:
the
applicant
also
clarified
that
he
was
trying
to
be
more
in
tune
with
the
existing
accessory
structure
when
it
came
from
a
stylistic
rather
than
the
main
home.
So
we
did
confirm
that
the
main
home
and
the
accessory
structure
have
different
window
configuration
sizes,
Etc.
B
B
B
F
No
but
I
thought
the
the
elevation
that
he
that
he
presented
as
as
an
example
of
what
he
was
doing.
Yes
showed
a
very
small.
It
looked
like
maybe
12
inches
wide,
very
small,
delicate
little
window
up
towards
the
top
of
the
Gable,
which
does
break
up
that.
That.
C
B
I
think
about
I
think
about
the
experience
of
spaces
right,
even
though
it's
not
in
our
purview,
but
you
know
just
occupying
and
being
in
spaces
like
that,
it's
a
tiny
space,
the
more
windows
you
put
in
the
bigger
spaces
feel
and
then
the
the
other
thing
is
that
that's
west,
facing
in
the
winter
time
we
get
such
gorgeous
sunsets
and
the
sky
is
on
fire
half
the
time
and
just
that
ability
to
enjoy
that.
F
C
B
F
G
Excuse
me
Kamari
pedis,
Michael
from
the
legal
department.
If
the
board
is
inclined
to
approve
a
motion,
granting
the
certificate
of
appropriateness.
Just
a
reminder
reminder
that
staff
stated
during
their
presentation
that
there's
a
pending
design.
E
One
subject
to
final
approval:
design
exception
for
the
addition's
height,
that
file
doors,
windows
and
Hardware
are
coordinated
with
staff
that
the
inset
of
Windows
and
Doors
be
reconsidered
in
a
more
appropriate
manner,
citing
at
the
rear
alley.
Side
of
the
existing
garage
structure
should
be
extended
over
the
entire
length
of
that
elevation.
E
The
alley
end
the
second
floor
window
second
floor
Edition
be
provided
with
a
window
and
recorded
with
staff
for
proportion
and
placement
because,
based
upon
the
finding
effect,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
a
with
the
Hyde
Park
design,
guidelines
of
the
city
of
Tampa.
For
the
following
reasons
that
the
addition
assistant
many
elements
of
its
existing
accessory
structure
and
that
the
scale
massing
at
four
is
consistent
with
examples
known
to
be
within
the
historic
district
of
Hyde
Park.
E
B
Sir,
if
you
would
come
up,
do
you
understand
the
conditions
that
were
set
forth
in
I.