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Okay,
sorry,
thank
you
for
your
patience
good
evening,
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
that
the
June
fifteenth
public
hearing
for
the
city
of
Tampa's,
Architectural,
Review
Commission,
welcome
everyone.
I'm
seasoned
classmates,
chairing
the
Commission
for
this
evening.
If
you
are
here
to
present
a
project,
you
will
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentations
so
may
suggest
being
thorough
but
concise
when
coming
to
the
microphone
which
I
believe
we
have
to
correct
the
original
following
right
here.
Sorry,
when
coming
to
the
microphones,
you
will
need
to
identify
yourself
and
your
relationship
to
the
projects.
B
The
commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
presentation.
Your
product
should
be
presented
in
the
following
order:
site
plan,
elevations
architectural
details,
wall
sections,
the
staff
will
present
the
staff
report
and
that
we
will
ask
your
commissioners
we'll
ask
for
public
comment
following
your
presentation.
The
commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
the
presentation
when
you
do
come
to
the
microphone.
Please
stay
and
spell
your
name
clearly,
if
you're
here
to
speak
for
or
against
a
project,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
So
take
some
time
now.
B
To
summarize
your
comments,
because
three
minutes
goes
by
very
quickly
and
it
certainly
does
following
public
comment:
the
applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal
rebuttal
and
then
the
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed.
The
only
comments
which
will
be
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
these
clothes
will
be
in
response
to
any
questions
from
the
commissioners.
B
The
commissioners
will
then
discuss
the
case
and
will
make
their
decision
based
on
the
city
ordinance
chapter
27
of
this
zoning
code,
the
design
guidelines,
the
Secretary
of
Interior
standards,
historic
preservation,
development
review
comments
and
the
testimony
given
at
the
public
hearing,
the
AR
C
can
only
act
on
items
that
are
within
our
specific
jurisdictional
responsibilities.
Owner
and
agents
aren't
independently
responsible
to
obtain
any
appropriate
permits
and
approvals.
If
you
haven't
already
done
so,
please
silence
your
cellphone's
and
then
I
would
like
my
fellow
commissioners
to
introduce
yourselves.
Please
hi.
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B
C
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B
A
Thank
You
commissioners:
do
you
have
just
a
couple
announcements
this
evening?
This
is
Dennis,
Fernandes
architecture,
review
and
historic
preservation
manager.
We
do
that
we
did
have
a
an
additional
public
hearing
scheduled
for
next
Wednesday
June
24th.
So
it's
not
this
coming
Wednesday
the
17th
we're
still
having
our
June
17th
meeting,
but
on
the
24th.
We're
gonna
be
canceling
that
meeting
so
we're
gonna
be
handling
these
cycles
that
we
have
skipped
between
tonight's
public
hearing
and
this
Wednesday
June
17th
public
hearing.
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B
E
B
A
D
A
B
A
A
And
just
as
a
footnote
to
that,
with
those
two
cases,
we
do
have
a
full
cycle
for
the
July,
8th
and
13th
public
hearings.
So
any
cases
this
evening
or
Wednesday
evening
that
do
you
need
to
continue
for
some
reason:
we'll
have
to
continue
to
the
August
cycle
of
cases
in
order
for
us
to
properly
manage
those.
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G
G
G
G
You
can
see
it's
a
a
fairly
small
house
at
that
time.
There's
an
open
porch
to
the
south
and
looks
like
an
open,
rear,
porch
and
a
small
accessory
building
off
the
alley.
This
is
on
Central
Avenue
between
Henry
and
Powhatan,
and
the
Garden
Club
is
now
located
on
this
property.
It
wasn't
built
until
1939.
G
And
then
this
is
looking
at
the
rear
of
the
house
as
it
stands
today
can
note
that
this
area
is
actually
an
addition
onto
the
original
footprint
of
the
house
and
then
there's
an
accessory
structure
here
on
the
the
north
side
of
the
lot-
and
this
is
a
an
image
I
liked,
showing
some
of
the
details
of
the
architecture
on
the
house.
G
G
Moving
around
to
the
alley,
this
is
the
existing
fence
and
gate
located
at
the
property
in
the
alley
and,
if
you're
looking.
This
is
south
down
the
alley
at
the
subject
site
to
your
left
and
then
looking
east
up
the
alley
on
toward
Henry
Avenue
and
the
garden
center.
Here,
the
subject
property
to
your
right
and
at
this
time
I
would
like
to
ask
the
applicant
to
come
forward
and
give
her
presentation.
A
H
H
H
H
Crude
window,
section
strong
and
the
match
existing
ball,
B
wood
and
the
Munson
layout
will
be
is
similar
to
existing.
H
G
Commissioners
staff
finds
that
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
Seminole
Heights
design
guidelines.
/
plans
dated
May
29th
and
the
applicant
presented
additional
details
here
this
evening
that
were
requested
on
the
staff
report
and
I'm
avail.
Excuse
me
I'm
available.
If
you
have
any
comments
or
questions.
E
Sutton.
Thank
you
very
much,
please.
If
you
may
I'd
like
to
revisit
some
of
your
detailing
for
both
the
house
and
the
shed
structure
that
you
have.
One
of
the
items
that
either
flew
past
me
or
was
not
addressed
was
the
nature
of
your
soffits,
the
underside
of
visible
part
of
the
roof
structure.
What
are
you
planning
to
do
both
on
the
house
and
on
your
shed
structure
and
how
does
that
relate
to
the
existing
house
on.
H
E
H
E
H
No,
the
siding
goes
down
to
about
I'd,
say
about
18
inches
before
the
ground
and
then
there's
a
brick
and
we
would
match
the
existing
brick
pattern.
The
engineer
that
I
am
using
suggested
doing
I
think
it's
like
CMU
piers
and
then
we'd
probably
have
to
use
thin
brick
to
match
they'll.
You
know
the
regular-sized
brick
on
those
little
areas,
so
it
ties
in
together
and
it
looks
consistent.
So.
H
E
H
H
B
H
I
B
C
B
H
B
B
B
C
B
B
E
I
Move
to
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
at
this
public
hearing
in
AARC
20
next
1
5,
4
4,
the
property
located
at
5708
North,
Central
Avenue,
because,
based
upon
the
finding
of
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
Seminole
Heights,
historic
district
design,
guidelines
of
the
city
of
Tampa
in
proportion
and
matching
the
existing
historic
house
and
in
the
setback
on
the
property
I.
Second,.
B
B
J
J
J
The
request
is
a
two-fold
they're
asking
for
a
variance
or
reduction
for
the
side
yard,
which
is
the
west
side
yard,
from
7
to
5.5
inches,
with
an
encroachment
for
heaves
and
gutters
of
2
feet,
and
then,
if
that
goes
forward,
then
they're
going
to
ask
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
about
80
square
feet
of
an
addition
for
a
one-story
structure.
I
spoke
with
the
agent.
He
should
open
these
together.
They
kind
of
meld
together.
So
you
get
a
understanding
of
what
the
request
is.
I'm
gonna
go
through
a
brief
photos.
J
J
Also,
what's
important
in
the
town,
this
area
is
they're
going
to
enter
into
the
record
some
information
regarding
a
tree,
and
you
see
the
canopy
of
the
tree,
that
is
in
close
proximity
to
where
the
addition
is
going
to
be
requested.
This
is
the
Sanborn
map
from
1929.
Once
again,
it
faces
D
Co.
The
primary
structure
is
a
two-story
structure
with
an
appendage
to
the
west
side
that
almost
comes
to
the
property
line
that
is
was
constructed
in
1926,
and
then
you
have
an
accessory
structure.
J
J
J
J
This
came
in
front
of
this
board
as
a
in
2019
December,
2nd
2019,
and
at
that
time
there
were
two
variances
that
were
requested.
There
was
an
averaging
or
vesting
for
the
front
guard
which
was
approved,
and
then
at
that
time
the
agent
and
the
owner
were
present
to
go
forward
with
a
two-story
volume
behind
the
sunroom
and
the
variance
at
that
time
was
from
7
foot
to
5
foot
and
that
was
denied
so
they're
back
in
front
of
you
today
with
a
new
request.
J
This
is
a
RC
20-1
16.
It
was
discussed
at
length
with
the
administrator
for
preservation
and
the
administrator
has
the
ability
to
waive
the
12
month
waiting
period
for
a
request
to
come
forward
if
they
deem
that
the
it
demonstrates
a
substantial
change
to
the
request
so
having
a
story
removed
and
changing
the
dimension
to
the
rear
property
line
met.
C
J
K
Sorry
about
that,
so
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
start
with
the
site
plan
here
and
the
site
plan
that
we're
proposing
to
do
just
a
small
little
bathroom
and
closet
addition,
which
is
here,
there's
a
grand
tree
just
on
the
other
property
to
the
west.
Here
we're
going
to
request
a
small
variance
of
about
19
inches
just
for
this
request
and
mainly
to
be
able
to
get
the
bathroom
and
a
closet.
Currently,
the
does
not
have
a
closet
on
the
on
this
side.
K
The
elevations
of
what
that
would
look
like
would
the
front
elevation,
of
course,
is
unchanged
because
we're
tucked
behind
a
sunroom,
so
nothing
about
the
elevation
on
printing
decal
changes
at
all.
The
the
west
elevation
we're
tucking
the
structure
again
behind
the
sunroom.
We
are
due
to
have
a
corner
board
here,
because
we
are
about
14
inches
in
from
from
this
elevation
to
the
to
the
new
addition
for
the
restroom
going
to
the
rear
elevation.
K
Let's
look
at
the
tree
and,
in
the
end,
conditions
in
the
rear
of
the
property.
Again,
this
little
area
here
is
we're
proposing
to
put
the
small
addition.
We
have
a
protected
radius
here
that
gets
to
almost
where
our
addition
goes,
and
then
we
have
some
existing
windows
that
this
dis
with
this
window
would
be
removed
in
this
window
would
be
removed.
For
for
the
addition,
all
other
windows
would
remain.
K
K
To
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
our
variance
again,
our
variance
is
a
very,
very
small
variance.
Previously
we
came
in
with
a
two-story
addition
that
would
that
was
going
to
come
all
the
way
up
and-
and
it
was
only
a
one-
foot
I'm
sorry
went
from
my
from
a
five
from
a
seven
foot
to
a
five
foot
request.
This
is
for
only
five
feet,
five
inches,
and
we
feel
this
is
a
much
more
in
keeping
to
the
scale
and
massing
in
in
architecture
of
this
project
and
in
particular
of
the
West
elevation.
K
So
the
main
reason,
of
course,
why
we
are
requesting
this
is
the
house
side
yard
setback,
which
is
approximately
three
foot
11
from
the
from
the
sunroom
to
the
property
line.
We
don't
have
any
room
on
the
east
side.
Obviously
we
have
a
driveway
the
south
side.
We
have
a
tree
that
has
protected
radius,
so
we
feel
this
is
just
in
a
perfect
spot
for
a
diminutive
one-story
addition
for
a
modest
bathroom
and
in
closet.
K
J
Move
forward,
I
would
discuss
the
various
requests
first
on
page
4,
and
your
staff
report
is
the
language
that
he's
submitted
into
the
record
and
you
could
go
ahead
and
expand
on
that
with
some
questions
as
well.
We
do
have
a
letter
of
support
in
the
record
from
the
buddy
neighbor
that
shares
that
property
line
does
closest
to
where
the
addition
is
that
and
that's
in
the
file.
J
D
B
K
K
I
think
this
is
about
as
small
as
the
variances
you
could.
We
could
ask
for
and
it
being
a
functional
bathroom,
we're
not
asking
for
you
know
some
grants
grand
bathroom
here,
it's
about
80
square
feet,
and
it
also
again
is
in
keeping
with
with
this
house
and
in
the
neighborhood
and
then
six.
The
variance
if
granted,
would
allow
that
consistent
with
design
standards
and
I
think
this
is
extremely
consistent
and
is
very
much
in
keeping
with
the
historic
pattern
of
the
neighborhood.
C
L
Can
hear
me
yeah
Jeremy,
the
owner,
so
we've
considered
quite
a
lot
of
different
options:
the
trees,
beautiful
the
limb
does
hang
across
the
back
and
drapes
quite
far
behind
I.
Think
when
you're
looking
at
the
site
plan,
it
doesn't
show
the
windows
out
of
that
lower
bedroom.
If
we
put
the
bathroom
behind
it,
you
kind
of
lose
the
view
and
you
just
be
staring
into
the
neighbors
RV.
If
we
put
it
on
the
other
side
of
the
house,
it's
the
back
of
a
kitchen.
L
We
don't
really
want
a
bathroom
and
closet
on
the
back
of
the
kitchen,
so
that
was
sort
of
why
we
were
putting
it
on
the
side
it
functionally.
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense
definitely
heard
the
comments
last
time.
If
don't
change
the
appearance,
tuck
it
as
much
as
you
can.
We
also
want
to
respect
the
tree.
So
it's
outside
of
that
area
also
want
to
maintain
the
usefulness
of
the
driveway.
So
that's
why
we
put
it
where
we
put
it.
I
C
E
Like
to
add,
that's
the
point
that
I
think
they've
done
a
remarkably
good
job
in
making
this
edition
fit
within.
If
you
all
the
confines
of
the
existing
building
and
its
perimeter,
we
are
dealing
with
part
of
this
existing
building
that
is
no
longer
conforming
to
current
zoning
ordinances
and
they're
required
setbacks.
And
now
this
edition
of
post
edition
is
coming
in
and
it's
respecting
those
lines
it's
respecting
the
lives
of
the
building
and
of
the
the
existing
site
setbacks.
I
As
stated,
and
the
evidence
provided
in
this
public
hearing,
specifically
that
the
brand
oak
is
unique
to
their
site
and
prohibits
them
from
expanding
off
the
bedroom
behind
the
house
and
that
the
existing
house
is
already
well
within
that
setback.
That
was
not
in
existence
when
the
house
was
built,
and
this
variance
is
less
than
the
existing
house
already
encroaches
on.
That.
B
B
B
J
Good
evening,
commissioners,
Ron
Vila
staff
with
Historic
Preservation,
so
moving
to
the
certificate
of
appropriateness.
The
staff
report
on
page
four
reflects
that
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
Hyde
Park
design
guidelines.
The
plans
that
we
reviewed
were
submitted
to
us
on
February
17th
2020,
so
it's
been
a
while,
since
we
were
working
on
this
and
moving
forward,
stas
feel
that
the
submission
today
meets
our
criteria.
I
like
for
mr.
Schouler,
to
go
through
a
wall
section
and
call
out
all
the
materials
on
the
exterior
to
meet
the
intent
of
the
staff
report.
Thank
you.
K
B
K
The
vinyl
siding-
and
we
did
an
addition
here,
a
few
years
back-
that's
also
wood
siding,
so
we
would
match
that
wood
siding!
That's
that's
currently
on
this.
On
this
addition,
the
of
course,
we
have
a
flat
flat
roof
so
that
none
of
the
roof
is
seen
from
from
any
anywhere
in
the
house
on
this
portion
of
the
addition,
the
the
detailing
would
be
identical
to
what
we
have,
of
course,
with
the
sunroom
in
the
way
of
its
overhang.
K
B
E
Will
continue
my
comment
from
before
I
thought
that
the
placement
of
this
addition
was
quite
sensitive
with
respect
to
the
people
of
the
perimeter
limits
of
the
existing
building
and
I
find
that
your
intention
and
how
you
plan
on
cladding
this
and
roofing
this
building
is
entirely
in
keeping
with
what
you
have
for
mrs.
Felix
a
lot.
I
really
have
no
objection
to
this
proposal.
I.
I
K
B
C
I
Moved
to
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
of
documents
presented
at
this
public
hearing
and
a
RC
2160
for
the
property
located
of
2006
West
Eagle
Avenue,
because
based
upon
the
finding
affect
the
proposed
project,
is
consistent
with
the
Hyde
Park
historic
design,
guidelines
of
the
city
of
Tampa
in
its
proportion
and
its
consistency
with
the
existing
historic
house.
I.
Second,.
J
J
It's
coming
forward
for
new
construction
for
a
single-family
residence
with
an
accessory
structure
and
site
improvements,
and
there's
three
variances
attached
to
the
request
reflected
on
page
one,
your
staff
report,
the
first
variance
is
a
front
yard
setback,
reduction
from
25
feet
to
16
foot
five
and
a
half
inches
with
a
three-foot
overhang
for
the
eaves
and
the
gutters.
The
second
variance
reflected
in
the
south
side
yard
from
seven
foot
to
two
foot
and
the
third
variance
is
a
height
increase
from
35
foot
to
37
feet.
J
I
did
speak
with
the
agent
he's
going
to
address
the
variance
first
he's
gonna
have
ten
minutes,
as
indicated
on
our
rules
of
procedure.
So
he's
gonna
address
that
first,
as
he
goes
through
his
variance
on
page
four
of
your
staff
report,
you
could
follow
along.
It
starts
on
page
four,
and
then
he
has
the
rest
of
his
verbage
attached.
J
J
J
This
is
from
earlier
this
year
in
March,
showing
the
non-contributing
accessory
structure
that
was
submitted
to
staff
for
approval
for
demolition,
showing
the
property
to
the
south.
This
is
a
one-story
structure
is
non-contributing.
The
structure
is
probably
about
18
years
old
I
do
recall
when
this
came
forward
and
then
to
the
north.
You
also
have
this
non-contributing
structure.
That's
on
the
corner
of
Richardson
and
Rome
directly
across
the
street.
You
have
some
historic
fabric.
This
is
the
intersection
of
intersection
of
Richardson
or
Rome.
J
Looking
to
the
east,
you
have
these
two
structures
here
and
just
to
conclude
with
a
couple
of
street
shots.
Property
in
question
is
over
here
to
the
right.
This
is
obviously
looking
towards
Bay
Shore
and
then
turn
it
around
looking
back
into
the
village.
That
concludes
the
photo
presentation
and
mr.
kina
will
move
forward
with
their
various
requests.
A
M
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
okay,
I
I
wanted
to
start
with
a
quick
introduction
just
to
the
project.
We've
got
a
lot
to
go
over
this
evening,
so
we've
created
three-dimensional
models
to
help
understand
the
scope
of
the
work,
the
scaling
and
the
massing
as
it
relates
to
the
neighborhood
and
the
property.
This
is
a
view.
Looking
from
the
south
east
corner
of
the
property,
the
north
would
be
to
the
back
of
the
property.
M
M
As
Ron
had
pointed
out,
this
is
the
1929
Sanborn
map
you
can
see
from
this.
The
the
property
that
we're
developing
has
no
contributing
fabric.
At
the
point
of
this
map
that
we
reference,
it's
important
to
note
that
the
property
on
Bayshore
and
Rome
was
a
large
estate
property.
There
was
no
construction
on
the
three
Lots
adjacent
richardson
and
rome
and
then,
as
we
get
north
along
rome
avenue
north
of
richardson,
we
have
very
pieces
of
the
fabric
that
have
been
altered
since
the
time
of
of
this
map.
M
M
What
I
wanted
to
demonstrate
in
this
document
is
that
we've
got
the
average
setbacks
for
the
entire
property.
The
property
of
the
north
is
the
farthest
off
of
the
property
of
the
sidewalk
at
the
35
feet.
It's
also
important
to
note
that
there's
a
grand
tree
in
their
front
yard,
which
is
part
of
the
reason
that
that
property
was
constructed
where
it
is
on
the
lot.
The
red
dashed
lines
indicate
where
the
front
building
set
that
currently
is,
and
you
can
see
the
footprint
of
our
home
on
the
lot
to
the
south.
M
M
One
thing
to
note
is:
if
you
took
out
the
last
property
to
our
north,
the
35
foot,
because
of
that
tree
that
does
skew
the
numbers,
the
block
average
would
actually
be
twenty
four
point,
nine
or
so.
If,
if
we
did
not
have
that
one
tree
holding
that
property
back,
this
is
our
subject
property.
It
will
be
demolished.
It's
non-contributing,
one-story
ranch
home
the
property
to
our
south
Ron
had
mentioned
this.
M
M
The
property
does
comply
with
the
building
setbacks.
It's
important
to
note
on
this
property.
It
does
have
some
cantilevered
elements
that
I
do
think
encroach
upon
the
front
setback,
but
this
is
new
construction
and
I.
Think,
as
we
demonstrate
further
in
the
presentation,
I
think
it
shows
the
ability
of
scale
and
massing
to
relate
with
the
rest
of
Rome
Avenue.
This
is
relatively
new
construction
along
one
property
off
of
Bayshore.
M
This
has
a
front
loaded,
two-car
garage
to
the
right,
not
something
that
would
be
approved
in
by
today's
board.
I,
don't
believe
so.
I,
don't
think.
This
is
a
good
example
of
historically
appropriate
or
contributing
structure
to
the
fabric
of
the
neighborhood
and
then
on
Bayshore.
We
have
a
new
newer
estate
home
that
was
constructed,
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
when,
but
newer.
Newer
construction
also
has
large
three-car
garage
facing
Rome
Avenue,
as
well
as
a
three-story
element
that
along
Bay
Shore.
M
The
three
variants
is
requesting
this
evening
are
to
reduce
the
front
yard
setback
from
25
feet
to
16
foot
five
and
a
half
inches
with
encroachment
of
3-foot
for
ease
and
gutters
we're
requesting
a
Southside
yard
setback
from
seven
foot
to
two
foot,
with
an
encroachment
of
zero
feet
for
eaves
and
gutters,
and
we're
requesting
an
height
increase
from
35
foot
to
737
feet.
The
diagram
on
the
bottom
shows
massing
and
scale
of
several
the
houses
along
Rome
Avenue,
forgive
the
glare.
This
is
the
Bella
Roma
property
at
1001
South
room.
M
This
is
within
two
blocks
of
our
property.
It's
a
four
story,
condominium
project
that
I
believe
was
built
in
the
in
the
90s
that
is
50
foot
tall
from
grade
to
the
top
of
roof.
1011
South
Rome
was
completed.
Construction
I
think
in
2017.
It
is
built
to
the
35
foot.
Height
limit
is
a
two-story
structure
with
additional
conditioned
space
and
in
the
roofline
the
property
at
1013.
South
Rome
is
there
to
indicate
that
there
are
one-story
ranch
homes
located
along
Rome
Avenue.
M
There
is
some
older
fabric
and
then
there's
also
new
construction,
as
shown
at
11:07,
South,
Rome,
I
think
our
property
when
compared
along
that
line
fits
within
the
scale
of
the
fabric
of
Rome
Avenue
and
the
neighborhood.
The
first
element
is
related
to
the
setbacks,
both
in
the
front
yard
in
the
South
yard.
The
this
diagram
is
is
to
try
and
clarify
our
site
plan.
The
Red
Hat,
the
red
solid
piece
is
our
building
setback
as
it
is
now,
our
property
is
zoned
rs.60.
We
requires
a
25-foot
front
setback
for
the
front
yard.
M
The
blue
portion
is
the
portion
of
our
porch.
That
is
encroaching
upon
that
front
setback
to
which
we
are
asking
for
the
variance.
As
you
can
see,
the
diagonal
cross
line
here
is
indicating
the
portion
of
our
building.
That
is
the
condition
square
footage,
and
then
the
portion
of
the
blue,
that
is
a
crosshatch,
is
indicating
the
portions
of
our
porch
and
porta
cachet
that
are
encroaching
upon
the
setbacks.
I
wanted
to
clearly
define
that,
because
what
we
really
tried
to
stress
on
this
is
due
to
the
irregular
shape
of
the
lot.
M
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
the
condition
piece
of
our
our
design
was
behind
that
setback
line
and
only
the
things
that
are
encroaching
were
the
porches
that
were
requesting
and
that's
typical
within
the
fabric
of
Hyde
Park.
In
my
opinion,
it's
also
important
to
know
that
the
width
of
our
lot
is
different
than
what
is
typically
in
our
s60
lot.
M
The
fabric
of
most
of
city
of
Tampa
zoning
has
a
60
by
100
foot
lot
as
the
basis
for
our
s60.
In
this
case,
even
though
we
have
55
foot
of
street
frontage,
we
only
have
a
forty
nine
foot
ten
and
a
half
inch
wide
lot.
That
is
one
of
the
hardships
that
we're
presenting
this
evening
to
construct
a
home
that
requires
to
have
garage
and
parking
in
the
rear.
M
When
you
don't
have
an
alley
really
limits
how
much
space
you
can
fit
within
the
buildable
footprints,
because
we
have
to
push
the
entire
house
either
to
the
north
or
to
the
south
to
accommodate
a
drive
aisle.
So
in
a
case
like
this,
I
would
think
that,
more
often
than
not,
when
you
have
a
less
than
50
foot
wide
lot,
you
might
be
considered
an
Rs
50
zoning
versus
RS
60,
and
that
would
give
you
a
lot
more
flexibility.
As
far
as
how
you
could
design
a
house
on
this
property.
M
M
As
we
go
to
the
actual
conditioned
portion
of
the
corner
of
the
house,
that's
actually
34
feet
from
the
front
setback,
so
it's
the
irregular
shape
of
the
that
creates
the
hardship
that
we're
asking
for
a
reduction
in
the
front
step
back
and
also
on
the
side
to
create
that
covered
Porter
cachet,
that
is
the
very
fabric
of
Hyde
Park.
We're
requesting
the
reduction
in
the
side
setback
to
allow
us
to
have
a
covered,
dr
porter
cachet.
M
This
diagram
is
also
to
enforce
just
three
dimensionally
to
help
you
guys
understand
where
the
areas
of
the
encroachment
actually
occur.
The
red
volume
is
there
to
show
what
the
building
footprint
buildable
footprint
would
be,
and
then
the
areas
that
aren't
in
the
red
or
the
areas
that
stick
outside
of
that.
It's
also
important
to
know
that
the
accessory
garage
does
meet
the
criteria
for
an
accessory
structure
and
does
not
need
to
comply
with
the
same
setback
regulations.
M
This
diagram
is
to
also
show
that
the
as
we
discussed
the
height
increase
down
the
road
in
the
presentation,
it's
also
important
to
note
that
we
are
not
requesting
a
height
increase
for
the
design
as
it
stands
today,
the
house
does
comply
with
zoning.
Today,
our
height
increase
is
related
to
how
the
FEMA
flood
maps
may
change
in
the
next
six
months
to
a
year,
and
so
we'll
address
that
further
in
the
presentation.
M
D
M
M
B
B
We'll
go
to
the
staff.
Well,
there's
no
staff
report
on
the
variance
sorry
we'll
go
to
public
comment
on
the
variance
request
for
this
case.
J
B
M
M
Appreciate
that
next
portion
of
this
was
just
giving
context
of
the
site,
the
areas
highlighted
are
different
parts
of
Hyde
Park.
Obviously
we
all
know
Hyde
Park,
Village,
Rome,
Avenue,
Selman,
expressway,
south
Howard,
Avenue
Bayshore
Boulevard.
It's
important
to
note
is
that
our
property
sits
on
one
of
the
busiest
thoroughfares
in
this
area.
Bayshore
Boulevard
is
a
highly
trafficked
highway.
Howard,
Avenue
and
Rome
Avenue
are
the
main
corridors
to
get
to
Bay
Shore
from
inside
the
neighborhoods
of
Hyde
Park.
M
This
is
looking
to
the
south
towards
Bay
Shore,
looking
to
the
north
towards
Hyde
Park
Village.
This
is
more
indicative
of
a
typical
situation
on
Rome
Avenue
there's
parking
on
both
sides
of
the
road
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
back
and
forth
bike
riders,
pedestrians
vehicles,
all
long-long,
Rome
Avenue,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
50
foot
wide
lot
comes
into
play.
If
we
were
zone
to
RS
50
as
typically
50
foot
lot
would
be,
we
would
have
had
a
20
foot
front
setback
and
allowed
an
8
foot
front.
Porch
encroachment
upon
that.
M
M
It's
about
3
foot
8
from
the
corner
of
this
house
and
is
about
one
foot
to
behind
the
front,
conditioned
space
of
the
house
to
our
north,
so
we're
not
impeding
upon
any
of
the
views
towards
Roman,
Avenue
or
even
towards
Bay
Shore.
With
this
request,
the
areas
that
the
buildings
I'm
sorry
to
the
north
of
us
that
are
highlighted
are
also
encroaching
upon.
M
The
25-foot
setback
from
rova
Rome
Avenue
Bella
Roma
is
13
foot
on
Rome
and
8
foot
on
hills,
Avenue
also
50
foot
tall
and
then
there's
some
multi-family
townhouses,
just
north
of
that
that
are
also
less
than
25
feet.
The
property
on
Rome
Avenue
to
one
block
to
the
north
had
an
existing
encroachment
that
was
vested,
and
that
also
is
10
foot
11
from
the
sidewalk,
a
very
similar
case
to
what
we're
presenting
where
we're
asking
for
a
front
porch
encroachment
because
of
the
angular
nature
of
the
lot.
M
This
house
is
keeping
in
scale
and
was
approved
in
2015,
so
South
yard
side
back
setback
from
7
foot
to
foot
is
because
of
the
open
port
urkesh,
a
request
that
fits
within
the
fabric
of
Hyde
Park.
The
Porticus
chez
is
2
feet
from
the
property
line,
but
the
main
massing
the
house
sits
further
off
of
the
setback.
These
are
all
examples
within
one
block
of
our
property
of
setback,
reductions
for
open
porta
caches
that
are
all
historic
context,
with
the
exception
of
the
house
and
the
bottom
right.
M
That's
new
construction,
but
it
also
has
it
less
than
seven
foot
side
setback.
The
height
increase
is
related
to
the
flood
elevation.
Changing
we
don't
have
a
hard
date
on
when
that
map
will
be
adopted
by
FEMA.
Currently,
we
are
allowed
a
35
foot
height
for
a
house
right
now.
The
first
floor
elevation
is
allowed
to
be
built
at
11
feet.
M
Our
average
grade
is
in
the
nature
of
seven
foot,
six
inches
from
the
zero
datum,
come
this
fall
or
next
spring,
or
whenever
the
new
FEMA
maps
will
be
adopted,
we're
going
to
be
required
to
raise
the
first
floor,
elevation
two
feet
above
where
it
currently
sits.
The
nature
of
our
request
is
really
contingent
upon
that
happening
in
the
next
four
to
five
months.
Prior
to
us,
finishing
drawings,
kovat
is
kind
of
thrown
the
economic
nature
of
this
project
into
a
little
bit
of
question
mark,
so
we're
trying
to
buy
ourselves
some
time.
M
This
is
just
to
show
that
the
scale
works
with
the
neighborhood
of
Hyde
Park.
This
is
the
parking
garage
on
the
far
north
end
of
Rome
Avenue,
clearly
more
than
three
stories,
and
it
still
fits
within
the
fabric
of
Hyde
Park.
This
is
another
newer
construction
that
also
exceeds
35
feet
that
has
been
approved
in
the
past.
M
These
are
all
taller
structures
in
the
area
with
three
story
or
more
tower
elements,
and
this
also
shows
the
scale
of
the
property
one
block
to
the
north,
against
our
property
and
very
similar
in
nature
and
just
two
different
styles
of
architecture.
So
that
concludes
my
variance
presentation.
Thank
you
for
the
additional
time.
B
D
F
Good
evening
Madame,
chair
and
members
of
the
architectural
review
commission,
my
name
is
John
grande
off
I
practice
at
the
hill
warden
Henderson
law,
firm
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Florida
Bar
I'm,
also
joined
this
evening
by
my
clients,
Laurel
and
Bob
Graham
mclaurel
Gramlich
is
with
me
this
evening.
Or
will
you
please
raise
your
hand
madam
chair
may
I
have
the
fairness
of
extra-time
also
since
mr.
keener
developed
more
evidence,
I'd
like
to
have
a
opportunity
to
respond
to
his
evidence.
Typically.
B
F
F
D
D
F
Here's
a
photograph
laurels
property
is
right
here
on
the
corner,
looking
south
to
Bayshore
Boulevard.
To
give
you
some
perspective,
mr.
keener
talked
about
the
grand
trees.
These
trees
are
complete
red
herring.
They
have
nothing
to
do
with
the
hearing
this
evening.
Those
are
all
my
clients,
property
laurels,
father,
distinguished
Judge,
James,
Lynn
fest.
He
bought
this
property
in
1976,
subject
to
the
Richardson
place
subdivision
now.
Why
do
I
bring
that
up?
F
Looking
south
on
Rome,
with
the
20-foot
building
line
created
by
plant
to
preserve
what
the
view
to
Bayshore
now
mr.
Keener's
plans
are
interesting.
Let
me
back
up
mr.
kenter's
client
takes
takes
title
to
this
property
subject
to
the
covenants
conditions,
restrictions,
reservations,
limitations
and
easements
of
Richardson
place.
He's
on
notice
of
this
20-foot
plaited
lot
line
1915
now
mr.
keener
showed
to
his
plans.
His
March
16
set
shows
the
plaited
setback
there.
F
It
is,
and
also
the
zoning
setback
I'm
talking
about
two
setbacks
today
or
two
yards
there's
a
zoning
yard,
which
is
25
feet
enforced
by
the
city,
there's
a
plaited
yard
20
feet
which
is
enforced
by
Circuit,
Court
and
junked
of
relief
by
my
client,
and
that
is
her
remedy.
If
mr.
keener
insists
on
building
this
building
in
violation
of
the
plat
and
in
violation
of
the
zoning,
so
on
that
plan
in
March
16,
he
shows
the
plaited
line
line.
F
He
shows
his
owning
line
now
mysteriously,
his
current
plans
that
are
before
you
this
evening
do
not
show
the
plaited
lot
line
anymore.
Now,
why
did
that
happen?
Perhaps
ask
mr.
keener
on
rebuttal.
Why
you're
not
shown
the
plaited
light
line
when
he
argues
to
you
that
this
building
fits
within
the
scale
and
fabric
of
Hyde
Park
if
it
fit
within
the
scale
and
fabric
of
Hyde
Park
he'd
show
you
the
plat,
that
is
history,
that
is
1915.
F
F
You
cannot
base
a
variance
upon
a
personal
preference
because
you
want
more
height,
because
you
want
more
width,
because
you
want
a
front
yard
that
breaks
into
Rome
Avenue
past
the
20-foot
platted
lot
line,
which
violates
the
view
to
Bayshore.
That's
why
we
have
plaited
lot
lines
in
1915
we
didn't
have.
Zoning
may
have
some
more
time,
Council.
C
B
F
1915,
a
plaited
lot
line
was
created
at
20
feet.
We
didn't
have
zoning
of
the
city
of
Tama
until
1959
platted
lot
lines
were
private
zoning
and
that's
how
you
enforced,
building
restrictions
and
created
light
air
and
space
to
have
a
view
down
to
Bayshore
Boulevard
zoning
codes
simply
did
what
we've
been
doing
for
years
and
remember.
F
This
gentleman
took
title
to
his
property
subject
to
the
covenants
and
he
should
have
shown
those
to
you
on
the
site
plan
and
you
need
to
consider
that
as
part
of
the
hardship
criteria,
the
fact
that
there's
something
of
record
since
1915
does
not
create
a
hardship,
I'm.
Sorry,
it
has
to
be
something
unique
to
the
land
like
a
tree
in
the
middle
of
the
lot
that
you
can't
build
around,
not
a
plaited
lot
line
that
you
took
title
to
and
which
Judge
Lynn
fest
he
took
title
to
and
his
property
has
respected.
F
Since
then,
this
issue,
about
the
height
being
based
upon
the
FEMA
rule
that
may
change,
is
completely
wrong.
You
do
not
base
a
variance
today
on
how
the
law
may
or
may
not
change
in
the
future.
That's
the
risk.
We
all
bear
that
is
nothing
you
need
with
the
property.
The
building
has
to
be
35
feet.
The
neighbors
are
in
35
feet,
they
get
their
drives
in
on
the
side
yard
they
make
it
work.
This
is
too
much
building
on
too
little
land.
It's
an
rs.60
property.
F
They
have
over
6000
square
feet
of
land,
which
was
the
minimum
lot
size.
He
can
make
it
fit.
It's
not
the
way,
they'll
exactly
want
it,
but
you
can
respect
the
20-foot
platted
long
line.
They
can
respect
the
25
foot
zoning
lot
line.
There
is
no
hardship
just
because
you
want
it
just
because
it
needs
to
be
more
profitable
just
because
you
spent
X
dollars
on
the
land
and
you
have
to
return.
F
F
There's
the
water
see
the
water
obstruction
of
you.
This
is
the
the
respected
lot
line.
This
is
the
building
we
do.
It
will
be
demolished
that
respects
it.
This
gentleman
came
on
the
land
on
notice
of
what
the
rule
was
he's
not
here
to
ask.
You
cannot
come
here.
Ask
you
to
bail
him
out
because
he
wants
to
build
a
bigger
house.
I
submit
to
you.
The
variance
criteria
of
hardship
is
entirely
personal,
is
not
unique
to
the
land
and
I.
Ask
that
you
deny
the
variances
this
evening.
N
Thank
you
good
evening.
My
name
is
James.
Mcguire
I
live
in
1708
West
Richardson
place,
which
is
the
house
at
11:03.
Rome
is
one
one
house
down
from
the
corner
of
Richardson.
Once
you
turn
the
left
onto
Richardson
I'm,
the
first
house
on
the
left,
so
the
the
property
in
1103,
south
rome
abuts,
the
eastern
border
of
my
house,
border
of
my
art,
I
I,
oppose.
M
N
Variance
and
in
some
ways
I
would
echo
what
was
just
said
here
that,
as
I
heard
the
discussion
this
evening,
the
purpose,
the
the
alleged
hardship
for
the
variance
was
it's
sort
of
a
small
lot
and
it's
kind
of
a
regularly
shaped
that
may
or
may
not
be
true,
but
what
they
are
trying
to
put
in.
There
is
a
gargantuan
structure.
The
structure
they're
trying
to
put
in
there
appears
to
be
at
least
three
times
the
size
of
the
current
structures
that
that's
there,
including
a
two-level
garage
with
a
lift
in
it.
N
They
are
trying
to
squeeze
not
just
a
square
peg
into
a
round
hole,
but
a
gargantuan
square
peg
into
a
small
round.
Hole
I
oppose
this
vehemently,
but
there
are
different
issues
as
well
about
the
appropriateness
of
this.
But
the
way
this
thing
is
going
to
be
built
in
my
backyard
I'm,
basically
going
to
see
a
huge,
concrete
block
like
the
screen
at
a
drive-in
movie
theater,
because
they
are
trying
to
fit
so
much
structure
into
this
property.
N
B
B
C
M
So
FEMA
dictates
in
flood
regions
like
this
one,
where
the
first
floor
elevation
of
the
height,
the
house
can
be
we're
in
a
unique
time
period
because
the
city
of
Tampa
was
going
to
adopt
these
codes.
The
FEMA
goes
through
an
extensive
period
of
several
years
of
publishing
maps
allowing
public
to
comment
and
then
through
bureaucracy.
They
end
up
initiating
these
maps.
This
was
supposed
to
happen.
There
were
rumors
last
fall
got
delayed
to
the
beginning
of
the
year.
Kovac
came
up
it's
being
delayed
further
rumors.
That
was
supposed
to
happen,
the
fall
of
2020.
M
It
might
happen
spring
of
2021.
Nobody
has
an
answer
for
this,
but
it's
a
case
where
we're
recognizing
we're
trying
to
get
ahead
of
an
issue.
This
is
something
that
we
can
solve
in
other
ways
with
the
city
of
Tampa
zoning.
There's
a
design
thing
allowed
as
a
design
exception,
which
allows
for
a
20%
increase
in
height
for
things
like
this
that
come
up
that
would
make
our
house
compliant
should
the
flood
maps
chain.
We
originally
presented
that
to
the
staff
and
Zoning.
M
M
B
M
M
You
have
an
alley
to
access
the
accessory
structure,
to
which
case
something
like
this
wouldn't
be
needed,
but
on
the
cases
where
accessory
structures
are
in
the
rear
front,
loaded
garages,
it's
very
typical
in
I
park
to
have
a
porter
cachet
to
allow
somebody
to
come
into
the
house
undercover
before
getting
to
the
rear.
I.
Think
it's
very
clear.
When
you
look
at
this
house
from
a
site
planning
perspective
that
it
looks
like
any
other
house
that
could
fit
in
the
Hyde
Park
neighborhood.
M
M
C
M
M
We
did
look
at
ways
to
try
and
squeeze
this
down,
but
once
you
account
for
the
depth
of
the
garage
motor
court
to
turn
turn
around
and
then
come
back
out
to
roam
Avenue,
it
really
limits
the
depth
of
the
home.
So
that's
why
it's
sort
of
pushed
forward
and
the
reason
for
the
front
porch,
request,
reduction.
I
I
B
M
Ma'am
I
would
one
of
the
comments
was
brought
to
your
attention
related
to
apparently
my
deception
of
you
guys
with
my
site
plan
and
the
platted
setback.
That
is
not
our
intent
by
any
means.
The
rationale
for
that
is
when
we
received
the
survey.
Originally,
it
does
have
a
20-foot
plaited
line
on
there
upon
HP
DRC,
which
is
the
process
related
to
coming
before
you.
Today
we
meet
with
zoning.
We
meet
with
the
different
departments
of
the
city.
The
reason
that
lines
taken
off
is
because
the
city
doesn't
recognize
20-foot,
platted
setbacks.
M
Zoning
upon
confirmation
this
morning,
even
on
the
phone,
does
not
recognize
these
as
setbacks.
The
other
thing
to
note
and
I
do
have
the
plat
here
and
it's
not
something
I'm
trying
to
hide
from
anybody.
This
dashed
line
shows
that
20-foot
platted
setback,
that
is
in
richards
in
place.
If
we're
gonna
start
cherry
picking,
when
we're
going
to
enforce
this,
we
need
to
look
back
at
Sanborn
map.
The
area's
circled
are
I,
don't
have
a
scale
to
this,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
this
house
does
not
meet
that
20-foot
plat
and
this
is
from
1929
Sanborn.
M
I
can
also
assure
you
that
on
the
corner
here,
there's
a
very
large
estate
home
that
does
not
meet
that
20
foot,
building
plat
by
any
means.
So
if
we're
gonna
start
recognizing
this
in
2020,
we
need
to
go
back
and
start
looking
at
potential
lawsuits
for
all
of
these
other
people
in
Richardson
place
that
are
already
encroaching
upon
these
setbacks.
So
our
act
was
not
to
deceive.
We
just
clearly
upon
confirmation
from
city
of
Tampa
zoning
as
not
recognizing
this.
We
don't
feel
that
it
was
pertinent
to
add
to
the
to
the
record.
E
E
Personally,
I
find
a
new
construction
on
what
is
appropriately
called
raw
land.
This
is
basically
a
piece
of
property,
were
just
extraction
they're
being
demolished
and
have
that
new
construction
not
meet
existing
and
currently
established
and
enforced.
Disowning
limitations,
which
would
include
its
setbacks,
is
a
little
bit
over
the
top
I.
E
Don't
think
it's
entirely
appropriate
for
us
to
be
considering
a
proposal
that
so
blatantly
disregards
those
and
circulation
requirements.
The
third
item,
on
this
being
the
height
increase,
is
technically
not
needed
under
the
current
regulations
and
should
not
even
be
under
consideration
at
this
point
in
time,
even
in
this,
a
term
of
a
hardship
that
hardship
does
not
exist
at
this
point
in
time.
So
as
long
as
it's
on
this
list,
I
would
I
would
be
lumping
it
all
together,
as
as
elements
nots
not
appropriate
to
the
high
park
development
regulations.
C
Agree
I
appreciate
the
desires
of
the
homeowner,
however,
the
the
setback
precede
the
purchase
or
the
design
of
the
residents.
Although
we
haven't
seen
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
presentation,
it
does
appear
to
have
significant
square
footage
that
could
maybe
be
adjusted
to
fit
within
the
the
current
code.
D
I
Race
I
agree
that
I
think
it
took
mr.
Sutton's
point:
that's
a
blank
site.
You
can
design
anything
to
fit
within
the
existing
setbacks
and
I
do
think.
It's
very
important
to
me,
especially
that
25
foot
setback
on
the
front
that
allows
all
the
neighbors
to
have
a
viewed
facial
and
for
just
that
consistent
line
down
the
street,
so
the
building,
even
in
the
example
shown
to
us,
really
seemed
to
kind
of
encroach
right
into
that
setback.
C
D
M
C
D
I
D
M
O
Wells
chief
assistant
city
attorney
just
to
jump
in
here
with
regard
to
the
process.
Certainly,
the
applicant
can
request
a
continuance
of
the
hearing
on
the
variance
I
would
submit
to
the
applicant
if
the
intent
is
to
look
how
to
redesign
the
project
either
eliminate
or
reduce
some
of
those
variances.
That
would
be
the
purpose.
I
believe
that
would
be
the
the
purpose
of
the
continuance,
otherwise
I
don't
know
why
it
would
be
necessary
to
continue
if
you're
not
going
to
reconsider
the
approach
with
the
design.
That's
driving
the
need
for
all
three
variances.
C
M
O
That's
a
separate
issue
because,
right
now
the
only
part
of
the
application
that's
being
considered
are
the
variances
and
not
the
design
of
the
home
and
whether
or
not
it
meets
with
the
design
guidelines
for
Hyde
Park
I
would
submit
to
the
Commission.
If,
if
the
applicant
is
seeking
a
continuance
in
order
to
reconsider
the
design,
perhaps
reduce
the
modify
the
request
for
the
the
variances,
then
it
would
be
appropriate
to
consider
the
request
for
continuance.
E
A
E
A
E
I
O
As
with
the
application,
you
saw
earlier
this
evening,
where
a
variance
had
been
denied
and
in
order
to
work
around
the
12-month
delay,
they
modified
the
design
and
mr.
Fernandez
determined
that
the
changes
in
the
the
design
addressed
the
basis
for
the
denial
and
allowed
the
application
to
move
forward
under
the
12-month
period
that
would
be
applicable
here.
As
well
as.
M
A
B
O
Wells
chief
assistant
city
attorney,
the
applicant,
has
requested
a
continuance
I
would
submit
to
the
Commission.
It
would
be
appropriate
to
consider
that
request.
If
it's
continued,
then
the
the
remainder
of
the
application
would
be
continued
to
I.
Believe
August
3rd
is
the
first
available
date.
If
the
continuance
is
denied,
then
it
would
be
appropriate
to
vote
on
the
variances
as
presented.
I
F
We
want
no
variances
at
all,
especially
a
variance
that
violates
the
planet
line
which
we
can
enforce
for
injunctive
relief.
I
just
don't
want
to
waste
your
time
because
we're
going
to
return
on
April
3rd,
if
they're
variances
requested
on
the
front
or
the
height
of
the
side
we're
checking
again.
So
this
is
not
a
horse
training
session.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
B
You,
sir,
anyone
else
from
the
public
comment
that
wishes
to
speak
on
the
continuance,
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
that
so
I
think
it's
a
matter
of
whether
or
not
sorry
whether
or
not
the
Commission
wishes
to
entertain
other
than
the
continuance
I.
C
Okay,
I
move
that
the
variance
request
for
the
case
of
a
RC
2171
located
at
11:03,
south
rome
avenue
for
a
front
yard,
setback
from
25
to
16
and
five
and
a
half
inches
with
encroachment
of
three
feet.
Four
eaves
and
gutters,
as
well
as
south
side
yard
setback
from
seven
to
two
feet,
with
an
encroachment
of
zero
for
the
eaves
and
gutters,
as
well
as
a
height
increase
from
35
to
35,
to
37.