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A
Chapter
7
of
the
zoning
code,,
the
design
guidelines,,
the
the
design
guidelines,,
the
secretary
of
the
turn.
I
don't
secretary
of
the
turn.
I
don't
remember,
standards,
the
remember
standards,,
the
historic
preservation
review,
historic
preservation,
review,
hprc
comments
and
the
tampa
hprc
comments
and
the
tampa
given
at
this
public
hearing..
A
Owners,
agents
are
individually
responsible
for
any
permits
or
responsible
for
any
permits
or
approvals.
approvals..
If
you
have
not
done
so
alr,
if
you
have
not
done
so
alr
already,,
please
silence
all
already,,
please
silence
all
cell
phones.
cell
phones..
Now
we
will
have
the
now.
We
will
have
the
introduction
of
commissioners.
A
A
B
G
G
G
G
these
--
in
this
room,
here.
the
tampa
convention
center.
the
tampa
convention
center..
We
do
have
a
full
agenda,
for
we
do
have
a
full
agenda
for
that
night
and
we
have
that
night
and
we
have
responses
from
the
responses
from
the
commissioners.
commissioners..
So
thank
you.,
so
thank
you..
We
will
have
a
quorum
for
that.
G
G
G
continued
to
july.
at
this
time,.
I
would
recommend
at
this
time,.
I
would
recommend
that
the
board
table
the
that
the
board
table
the
election
until
the
end
of
the
election
until
the
end
of
the
meeting
and
go
throughout
meeting
and
go
throughout
agenda
and
address
the
election
agenda
and
address
the
election
of
officers
at
the
end
of
the
of
officers
at
the
end
of
the
agenda.
agenda..
We
will
need
a
motion.
If
it
is,
we
will
need
a
motion
if
it
is
the
pleasure
of
the
board
to.
F
E
E
E
Items
listed
on
the
agenda.
no.
no.
I
have
none..
I
have
none.
camaria
pettis-mackle:
thank
camaria
pettis-mackle:
thank
you,,
any
of
the
commissioners
you,
any
of
the
commissioners.
Please
state
for
the
record.
Please
state
for
the
record
whether
or
not
there
has
been
whether
or
not
there
has
been
any
ex-parte
communication.
G
G
G
G
D
A
G
G
E
E
E
Historic
district.the
request
is
two
part.
is
two
part.
first
for
a
variance
request,
first
for
a
variance
request,,
and
also
for
a
certificate
of,
and
also
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
basically
for
appropriateness,
basically
for
an
addition
to
the
primary
an
addition
to
the
primary
structure.
E
E
Sanborn
map
of
this
portion
of
seminole
heights.,
seminole,
heights.,
central
avenue,
here.
central
avenue,
here.
the
line
--,
the
green
rectangle,
the
line
--
the
green
rectangle.
There
is
the
subject.
Property.
there
is
the
subject
property..
It
is
a
little
difficult
to
see.
It
is
a
little
difficult
to
see
on
here,,
but
at
that
time,
on
here,.
But
at
that
time,
there
was
a
little
footprint
of.
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
Some
of
the
windows.
and
then
this
is
the
--
back
on,
and
then
this
is
the
--
back
on
central
avenue.,
central
avenue..
This
is
the
house
that
is
this
is
the
house
that
is
directly
to
the
south
at
the
directly
to
the
south.
At
the
corner,
with
powhatton,
I
corner
with
powhatton,,
I
believe.
believe.,
and
this
is
the
house
that
is-
and
this
is
the
house
that
is
directly
to
the
north
of
the
directly
to
the
north
of
the
subject.
E
E
E
E
So
the
basis
for
the
variance
request
this
evening
had
to
do
request
this
evening
had
to
do
with
the
current
situation
of
with
the
current
situation
of
the
existing
structure
on
the
the
existing
structure
on
the
site.
site.
and,
in
addition
to
the
two
and,
in
addition
to
the
two
variances
that
you
will
hear
variances,
that
you
will
hear
this
evening
in
seminole
this
evening
in
seminole
heights,.
E
Instead
of
having
a
heights,
instead
of
having
a
front
yard
setback
requirement,
front
yard
setback
requirement
as
you
are
used
to
seeing
in
as
you
are
used
to
seeing
in
most
residential
zoning,
most
residential
zoning
districts,,
the
zoning
districts,.
The
zoning
requirements
have
a
certain
requirements,
have
a
certain
build-to
line
where
the
front
build-to
line,
where
the
front
of
the
building
is
should
be
of
the
building
is,
should
be
determined
to
be
since
this
determined
to
be
since
this
building
is
already
in
a
building
is
already
in
a
particular
location,,
already
particular
location,.
Already
constructed.
E
constructed.
the
applicant
has
applied
for
a
the
applicant,
has
applied
for
a
design
exception,
from
the
design
exception
from
the
zoning
staff
and
the
urban
zoning
staff
and
the
urban
design
staff
for
the
front
yard
design
staff
for
the
front
yard,
build-to
line.
build-to
line.,
so
that
will
not
be
part
of
the.
E
H
H
Studio,
5502
north
cherokee
avenue.
avenue.
this
--.
This
house
is
actually
this
--.
This
house
is
actually
right
down
the
street
from
my
right
down
the
street
from
my
office.
office..
It
is
a
young
family..
It
is
a
young
family..
They
just
have
--,
they
have
a
they
just
have
--.
They
have
a
young
child.
H
H
H
H
Conditioned,
four
bedroom,
and
three
bath.
three
bath.:
this
property
has
very
unique.
This
property
has
very
unique
and
design
constraints.
It
has
and
design
constraints
it
has
to
work
around
with
its
to
work
around
with
its
existing
building,,
its
existing
building,,
its
location.
location..
It
appears
that
on
the
property
it
appears
that
on
the
property
appraisers
records,,
it
was
appraisers
records,.
It
was
built
in
1914,,
but
a
lot
of
the
built
in
1914,.
H
H
pictures.,
and
show
them
to
you.
and
show
them
to
you.
all
the
soffits,
brackets,
they
all
the
soffits,
brackets,
they
all
have
been
concealed
by
all,
have
been
concealed
by
aluminium.
aluminium.,
real
popular.
When
that
is
real
popular.
When
that
is
removed,,
everything
has
been
removed,.
Everything
has
been
pretty
well
preserved.,
pretty
well,
preserved.
just
needs
to
be
painted.
H
H
with
the
materials
underneath.
and
another
unique
thing
about,
and
another
unique
thing
about.
This,
there
is
really
no
front
this,.
There
is
really
no
front
porch
to
the
house.
porch
to
the
house.,
a
very
prominent
architectural,
a
very
prominent
architectural
development
in
seminole
hei
development
in
seminole,
hei,
heights.
heights..
We
wanted
to
do
a
front
porch.
H
H
And
so
that
actually
gets
on
the
variances
that
we
are
the
variances
that
we
are
asking
for.
asking
for..
I
will
start
and
go
through
the.
I
will
start
and
go
through
the
pictures
and
go
through
the
pictures
and
go
through
the
drawings
and
talk
about
our
drawings
and
talk
about
our
design.
Solution.
C
C
H
H
H
H
closed..
All
the
material
is
brick
and
a
all
the
material
is
brick
and
a
carport
over
here
that
looks
carport
over
here.
That
looks
like
that
bass
done
in
the
'
like
that
bass
done
in
the
'
'50s.
'50s..
There
is
another
picture.
Just
there
is
another
picture,
just
showing
a
little
different
v,
showing
a
little
different
v
view.
view..
There
is
a
lot
of
brick
here..
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
Window
and
the
staff
comments.,
the
house
is
relatively
low
to
the
house-
is
relatively
low
to
the
ground,
but
the
piers
are
the
ground,
but
the
piers
are
all
brick,
and
at
this
point
all
brick-
and
at
this
point
chee
12
x
8,,
I
believe,
they
chee
12
x
8,,
I
believe,
they
are
concealed
behind.
This
are
concealed
behind
this
plastic
lattice,
and
here
is
plastic
lattice,
and
here
is
another
better
view.,
another
better
view..
They
are
painted
red.,
they
are
painted
red..
You
can
see
the
more
tar
joint
you
can
see.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
Front
yard
fences
are
not
al
allowed
in
seminole
heights
allowed
in
seminole
heights,
generally.,
generally.
and
all
the
concrete
will
be
and
all
the
concrete
will
be
removed.
removed..
These
are
steps
that
go
to
a
these
are
steps
that
go
to
a
side
door
and
also
that
door,
I
side
door
and
also
that
door.
I
just
showed
a
minute
ago.
H
Just
showed
a
minute
ago.,
so
one
of
the
--
couple
of
so
one
of
the
--
couple
of
things
I
wanted
to
point
out
on
things.
I
wanted
to
point
out
on
this.
this.
right
now.
This
is
north
--,
this
right
now
this
is
north
--.
This
is
up
along
this.
North
side
is
up
along
this
north
side,
property
line,
the
existing
property
line,
the
existing
building
encroaches
on
the
building
encroaches
on
the
setback.
setback..
That
is
one
of
the
variances.
H
H
H
The
alley.,
so
I
don't
know
--,
can
this
so
I
don't
know
--.
Can
this
camera
zoom
in
to
the
site
plan
camera
zoom
in
to
the
site
plan
and
I
can
just
move
it
around
and
I
can
just
move
it
around.
So
it's
--,
since
everything
is
so
it's
--,
since
everything
is
print
so
small,
I
figured
that
print
so
small,
I
figured
that
would
be
helpful.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
This
is
a
bathroom
and
egress
windows,
because
the
master
windows,
because
the
master
bedroom
doesn't
have
any
egress
bedroom,
doesn't
have
any
egress
windows
once
that
door
is
windows
once
that
door
is
removed,
and
that
is
one
of
the
removed,
and
that
is
one
of
the
variances
as
well.
variances
as
well..
This
is
a
vesting
variance.
H
Is
a
slight-off
set
right
there?
That
is
six
inches,,
and
this
is
that
is
six
inches,
and
this
is
being
built
within
the
rear
being
built
within
the
rear
yard,
setback.
yard,
setback.
and
then
as
well,
part
of
the
and
then
as
well,
part
of
the
second
floor,,
which
is
sort
of
second
floor,,
which
is
sort
of
in
the
center
here,
is
set
back.
H
In
the
center
here
is
set
back.
and
other
little
things
on
the
and
other
little
things
on
the
site.
Plan,,
the
existing
air
site
plan,,
the
existing
air
conditioning
unit
is
here..
Conditioning
unit
is
here..
It
is
going
to
remain
here..
It
is
going
to
remain
here..
The
existing
electric
service,
the
existing
electric
service
is
here.
is
here..
It
is
going
to
remain
here,
but
it
is
going
to
remain
here,
but
have
a
taller
weather
head?
H
H
This
is
an
existing
floorplan
or
demolition
plan.
or
demolition
plan..
This
area
back
here,
where
the
this
area
back
here,
where
the
master
is
and
this
area
which
master
is
and
this
area,
which
is
the
laundry
room
and
closet,
is
the
laundry
room
and
closet
will
be
demolished,
and
this
will
be
demolished
and
this
area
reconfigured
and
where
we
area
reconfigured
and
where
we
will
add
on
to
the
master
with.
H
H
H
H
You
have
the
smaller
bases
here,
but
without
columns
and
the,
but
without
columns,
and
the
little
welcome
with
steps
that
little
welcome
with
steps
that
go
up
to
the
porch
up
to
the
go
up
to
the
porch
up
to
the
front
door.
Right,
here.,
front
door
right
here.
over
in
this
area,
the
door
and
over
in
this
area,,
the
door
and
window
are
actually
going
to
be
window,
are
actually
going
to
be
switched.
switched.,
but
they
are
going
to
keep
that,
but
they
are
going
to
keep
that
wood,
deck,
here.,
wood,
deck
here..
H
H
The
sta
irs
goes
to
the
second
floor,
which
you
will
see
in
a
floor,
which
you
will
see
in
a
minute.
minute.,
the
bedroom,
laundry
room,,
the
bedroom,
laundry
room,
closet,,
and
this
shows
the
closet,,
and
this
shows
the
master
bath
with
the
egress
master
bath
with
the
egress
window
on
other
side
and
the
window
on
other
side
and
the
door
that
goes
out
to
the
space
door.
That
goes
out
to
the
space,
here.
here.
and
then
just
a
really
simple
and
then
just
a
really
simple
small
bath.
small
bath..
This
is
one
story..
H
H
H
Bedrooms
with
small
closets,,
a
linen
closet
and
a
shared
linen
closet
and
a
shared
bathroom.
bathroom.,
the
front
room
is
an
office..
The
front
room
is
an
office.
and
you
can
see
how
the
roof
is,
and
you
can
see
how
the
roof
is
configured
for
the
--.
What
you
configured
for
the
--,
what
you
will
see
in
the
elevation.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
A
simple
panel
door
with
the
glass
light.
glass
light.,
you
see
the
existing
house
is
you
see,
the
existing
house
is
here
and
the
second-floor
here
and
the
second-floor
addition
here
and
here
and
the
addition
here
and
here
and
the
front
where
it
sort
of
steps
front
where
it
sort
of
steps
back
and
the
side
gable.
That
back
and
the
side
gable.
That
has
a
little
steeper.
Pitch,
has
a
little
steeper
pitch,,
which
you
can
see.
H
H
H
H
a
half
and
12
roof
slope..
We
have
brackets
similar
to
the
we
have
brackets
similar
to
the
existing
brackets
that
are
knee
existing
brackets
that
are
knee
braces
that
are
constructed
by
braces
that
are
constructed
by
4
x,
4s.,
4,
x,
4s.,
on
the
back
here,
you
see
where,
on
the
back
here,
you
see
where
the
roof
slopes
up
a
little
bit,
the
roof
slopes
up
a
little
bit,
more.
more.
H
H
H
H
H
The
two
windows
to
the
bed-
bedrooms.
bedrooms.
the
bathroom
over
here-
has
that
the
bathroom
over
here
has
that
one
window
there.
one
window
there.
and
because
we
are
adding
a
new
and
because
we
are
adding
a
new
roof
over
the
existing,,
we
will
roof
over
the
existing,.
We
will
have
exposed
rafter
tales
on
have
exposed
rafter
tales
on
the
back
here.,
the
back
here.
and
the
last
elevation
is
the.
H
H
H
That
is
existing
kitchen
window.
That
remains
and
french
doors
that
remains
and
french
doors,
which
will
become
a
pair
of
which
will
become
a
pair
of
windows.
windows..
And
you
see
the
porch
on
the
and
you
see
the
porch
on
the
front.
front.
again
all
of
this
existing
again.
All
of
this
existing
siding
will
be
removed
and
the
siding
will
be
removed
and
the
rafter
tails
revealed.
So
it
has.
H
H
H
H
This
is
existing
first
floor
and
basically
cutting
away
from
and
basically
cutting
away
from
the
existing
roof
to
do
the
the
existing
roof
to
do
the
second
floor.
second
floor.-
and
I
have
done
this
quite
a-
and
I
have
done
this
quite
a
business.
business.
sister
new
joyce,
alongside
an
sister
new
joyce,
alongside
an
existing
joyce,
and
raise
them
existing
joyce
and
raise
them
up
three
quarters
of
an
inch.
H
H
H
H
H
H
Lattice
infill,
two-by-four
frame
walls
siding
to
match
the
frame
walls
siding
to
match
the
insulation.
insulation..
This
we
are
doing
a
small
this.
We
are
doing
a
small
overhang.
overhang.
only
doing
a
foot
and
a
half
only
doing
a
foot
and
a
half
because
we
don't
want
to
because
we
don't
want
to
encroach
into
the
rear
property
encroach
into
the
rear
property
line
into
the
alley.
H
line
into
the
alley..
That's
why
it
has
--,
also
a
that's
why
it
has
--,
also
a
smaller
element
on
the
back,
smaller
element
on
the
back
side
of
the
house
and
that's
side
of
the
house,
and
that's
why
it
has
smaller
detail
and
why
it
has
smaller
detail
and
lower
slope.
Roof.,
lower
slope
roof.,
the
last
detail.
--.
I
don't
know
the
last
detail.
H
--,
I
don't
know
how
well
the
camera
can
zoo
how
well
the
camera
can
zoo
into
that,,
but
a
lot
of
details
into
that,,
but
a
lot
of
details
on
the
column
but
kind
of
hard
on
the
column
but
kind
of
hard
to
see,.
But
I
will
start
at
the
to
see,,
but
I
will
start
at
the
top.
top..
Basically,
the
gable
is
about.
H
Basically,
the
gable
is
about
the
same
as
the
gable
I
men
the
same
as
the
gable
I
men
mentioned
before,
with
the
mentioned
before,
with
the
bracket,,
the
knee,
brace
or
bracket,,
the
knee
brace
or
brackets.
brackets..
This
is
a
section
through
the
this
is
a
section
through
the
column.
column.
and
it
is
basically
like
a
and
it
is
basically
like
a
12-inch
beam.,
12-inch
beam.
and
there
are
a
lot
of
detail
and
there
are
a
lot
of
detail:
here.
here.,
basically
a
cap.,
basically
a
cap.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
these
design,
constraints.
and
one
of
them
was
not
moving
and
one
of
them
was
not
moving
the
house.,
the
house.
it
just
was
not
feasible
to
it.
Just
was
not
feasible
to
move
the
house
because
of
the
move,
the
house,
because
of
the
cost
and
the
unknown
things
we
cost
and
the
unknown
things
we
would
get
into
trying
to
move
would
get
into
trying
to
move
the
house.,
the
house..
So
that's
what
we
are
working.
H
H
H
from
the
alley
quite
a
bit.,
and
that
is
a
good
thing,,
and
that
is
a
good
thing,,
because
the
only
person
that,
because
the
only
person
that
called
after
our
public
notice,
called
after
our
public
notice
was
the
person
right
behind
the
was
the
person
right
behind
the
alley.
alley.
there
were
concerned.
They
would
there
were
concerned
they
would
have
a
neighbor
on
the
other,
have
a
neighbor
on
the
other
side
of
the
alley.
With
this
side
of
the
alley.
With
this
looming
two-story
addition.
H
H
H
H
This
was
a
challenge
to
meet
all
the
requirements
of
the
all
the
requirements
of
the
seminole
heights,
design,
seminole
heights
design
guidelines,
but
also
working
guidelines,
but
also
working
with
the
unique
circumstances,
with
the
unique
circumstances
of
the
existing
condition,
such
of
the
existing
condition,
such
as
building
location,
setbacks
as
building
location,
setbacks,
which
sort
of
speak
to
the
which
sort
of
speak
to
the
alignment
of
this
house.
With
alignment
of
this
house
with
the
other
houses
and
also
the
the
other
houses,
and
also
the
existing
details.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
other
side
of
the
alley..
She
was
fine
with
it..
She
was
fine
with
it.
the
neighbors
on
either
side
--,
the
neighbors
on
either
side
--
the
south
side
--.
We
are
the
south
side
--.
We
are
meeting
all
the
setbacks
on
the
meeting.
All
the
setbacks
on
the
south
side.
south
side.
on
the
north
side,,
only
a
small
on
the
north
side,.
Only
a
small
portion
of
the
second
floor
portion
of
the
second
floor,
aligning
with
the
first
floor.
H
H
H
H
H
That
is
the
key
term
"reasonable
use."
"reasonable
use.",
because
that
is
what
we
are,
because
that
is
what
we
are
doing.
Here.
doing,
here.
the
fifth
one
is
allowing
the
the
fifth
one
is,
allowing
the
variance
will
result
in
variance
will
result
in
substantial
justice
being
done,
substantial
justice
being
done,
considering
both
the
public,
considering
both
the
public
benefits
intended
to
be
secured,
benefits
intended
to
be
secured
from
this
chapter
and
from
this
chapter
and
individual
hardships
and
individual
hardships
and
practical
difficulties.
H
H
H
addition,
without
a
variance.,
the
variance
for
the
site
and
the
variance
for
the
site
and
rear
yard
setback
will
provide
rear
yard
setback
will
provide
relief
and
reasonable
use
of
relief
and
reasonable
use
of
the
property..
The
property.,
substantial
justice
will
be
substantial.
Justice
will
be
allowed
by
allowing
for
the.
H
H
H
H
H
A
E
A
The
certificate
of
appropriateness,
public
comment,
appropriateness,
public
comment
and
motion.
and
motion.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
at
this
point,.
We
will
open
the
at
this
point,.
We
will
open
the
hearing
to
any
public
comment
hearing
to
any
public
comment
for
this
--
for
this
portion.
We
for
this
--
for
this
portion.
We
are
only
going
to
focus
on
the
are
only
going
to
focus
on
the
variances
at
hand.
A
A
F
E
F
F
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
F
Yes,,
I
do
see
it,
thank
you.
and
then
the
only
other,
and
then
the
only
other
question
I
have
in
regards
to
question
I
have
in
regards
to
the
variance
request
for
the
the
variance
request
for
the
rear
setback
is
in
regards
to
rear
setback
is
in
regards
to
the
new
addition.,
the
new
addition..
Did
you
look
at
other?
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
C
C
C
Same
question,
but
two
---
I
don't
know
where
is
north
on
don't
know
where
is
north
on
here?
here?
north
is
up..
North
is
up.,
north
is
up.,
north
is
up.
well,,
that's
easy.,
well,,
that's
easy.,
so
west
--
like
toward
the
so
west
--
like
toward
the
front,.
Why
did
you
choose
not
front,?
Why
did
you
choose
not
to
build
on
to
the
front
of
the.
H
H
You
are
not
meeting
the
cl
client's,
pragmatic,
needs.,
client's,
pragmatic
needs..
If
we
were
to
completely
if
we
were
to
completely
abandon
this
and
put
bedrooms,
abandon
this
and
put
bedrooms
in
the
area
we
would
have
to
in
the
area,
we
would
have
to
build
a
new
kitchen
and
family
build
a
new
kitchen
and
family
room
forward,,
but
we
still
have
room
forward,,
but
we
still
have
the
issue
of
the
--
of
the
s.
H
C
C
H
Variances
that
owners
able
to
increase
the
living
area
increase
the
living
area
without
a
variance.
without
a
variance.
right.
right..
That
is
the
point
we
are
trying.
That
is
the
point
we
are
trying
to
make
is
all
existing
living,
to
make
is
all
existing,
living,,
kitchen
and
dining
is
in
this
kitchen
and
dining
is
in
this
area.
area..
H
We
would
have
to
re-create
the
kitchen,
have
to
re-create
the
kitchen,
family
room,
and
all
this
family
room,
and
all
this
further
forward,
and
we
would
further
forward,
and
we
would
so
--
and
with
the
to-story
--
so
--
and
with
the
to-story
--
I
mean
a
one-story
building.,
I
mean
a
one-story
building..
I
didn't
mention
that
before,.
H
I
didn't
mention
that
before,
central
is
sort
of
like
main
central
is
sort
of
like
main
street
in
seminole
heights.
street,
in
seminole
heights..
Most
of
the
structures
on
that
most
of
the
structures
on
that
street
are
two-story
or
if
one
street
are
two-story
or
if
one
story
they
will
have
a
second.
C
H
Front
and
still
meet
the
setbacks,
even
though
you
would
setbacks,
even
though
you
would
set
it
in?
set
it
in?,
well,
no,,
because
it's
--
as
well,
no,,
because
it's
--
as
long
as
I
have
been
doing
work
long
as
I
have
been
doing,
work
in
historic
districts
of
tampa,
in
historic
districts
of
tampa,,
it
has
always
been
very.
H
It
has
always
been
very
important
to
--.
When
do
you
a
important
to
--?
When
do
you
a
second-floor
addition
to
have
second-floor
addition
to
have
it
set
back
from
the
front
of
it
set
back
from
the
front
of
the
house?
Because
you
want
the
the
house,
because
you
want
the
sect
floor
to
be
sub
very
yent,
sect
floor
to
be
sub
very
yent
to
the
first
floor,
because
you
to
the
first
floor
because
you
don't
want,
have
a
two-story
box,
don't
want
have
a
two-story
box,
basically.
C
H
H
A
lot
of
it
--
can
we
--
it
does
get
down
to
economics.,
does
get
down
to
economics.,
because
if
you
were
not
able
to
because
if
you
were
not
able
to
reuse
existing
lines
of
reuse
existing
lines
of
structure,,
you
are
having
to
do
structure,.
You
are
having
to
do
structural
gymnastics.,
structural
gymnastics.
that
drastically
increases
the
that
drastically
increases
the
cost.
H
cost.,
the
less
space
you
touch,
it
the
less
space
you
touch,,
it
saves
you
money.
saves
you
money.,
so
if
we
are
having
to
so,
if
we
are
having
to
completely
abandon
the
kitchen
completely
abandon
the
kitchen
and
family
room
and
re-create
and
family
room
and
re-create
that,,
that
is
significant.
Cost.
H
H
H
Second
floor
is
stepped
back
pretty
far
with
the
exception,
pretty
far,
with
the
exception
of
the
one-story
addition
for
of
the
one-story
addition
for
the
bathroom,
but
just
no
other
the
bathroom,
but
just
no
other
place,.
If
this
is
where
the
place,,
if
this
is
where
the
master
bedroom
is
to
add
a
master
bedroom,
is
to
add
a
bathroom
if
we
are
going
to
bathroom.
If
we
are
going
to
have
--
an
existing
bathroom
have
--
an
existing
bathroom
here
and
a
laundry
room
here.
C
B
B
E
A
A
E
E
A
D
A
A
H
Talking
about
how
--,
obviously,
how
unique
this
project
is
and
how
unique
this
project
is
and
the
special
design
the
special
design
considerations
we
had
to
work
considerations
we
had
to
work
around.
around.,
we
tried
very
hard.
Looking
at
a,
we
tried
very
hard
looking
at
a
lot
of
different
options.
H
And
--
but,
you
know,,
sometimes
--
economic
things
become
--
economic
things
become
important,,
you
know,,
like
sure
important,
you
know,
like
sure
we
can
step
it
in,,
but
if
we
we
can
step
it
in,,
but
if
we
step
it
in,
that
creates
step
it
in,
that
creates
unnecessary,
hard,
isship.,
unnecessary,
hard,
isship.
and
all
gets
back
to
reasonable.
H
A
A
C
Will
now
discuss
the
case.
well,
in
my
opinion,
I
well,
in
my
opinion,.
I
think
that
while
this
site
was
think
that,
while
this
site
was
definitely
a
challenge
to
definitely
a
challenge
to
design,,
straightforward
or
--,
design,,
straightforward
or
--,
it
wasn't
straightforward,.
I
do
it
wasn't
straightforward,.
I
do
believe
that
the
design
could.
C
A
That
is
what
I
am
considering.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.,
zachary
greco:
thank
you.,
anyone?,
anyone?
no,,
no
comments.,
no,,
no
comments.,
zachary
greco:.
A
this
point,
zachary
greco:,
a
this
point
in
additional
comments,
will
a
in
additional
comments,.
Will
a
commissioner
like
to
make
a
commissioner
like
to
make
a
motion
for
the
variances
only?.
A
A
E
The
ca,
portion.
commissioners,
staff
found
commissioners,
staff
found
that
the
application
was
that
the
application
was
consistent
with
the
seminole
consistent
with
the
seminole
heights
design.
Guidelines.
heights
design
guidelines.
the
agent
did
a
good
job
of
the
agent,
did
a
good
job
of
going
through
the
presentation
going
through
the
presentation,
and
I
was
able
to
follow
along
and
I
was
able
to
follow
along
pretty
well
on
the
staff
report
pretty
well
on
the
staff
report
on
the
conditions
listed
there.
A
A
A
public
comment..
Anyone
like
to
speak
for,
or
anyone
like
to
speak
for
or
against
this
project?
against
this
project?.
Seeing
and
hearing
none,
the
seeing
and
hearing
none,
the
commissioners
will
now
ask
commissioners
will
now
ask
questions
for
the
ca
portion
of
questions
for
the
ca
portion
of
the
project.
B
B
Let
us
revisit,
please,
your
foundation,
treatment,
foundation
treatment,,
particularly
for
your
wholesale,
particularly
for
your
wholesale
replacement
of
the
front
of
the
replacement
of
the
front
of
the
building,
as
well
as
for
its
building,
as
well
as
for
its
addition.
addition..
After
this
point,
there
would,
after
this
point,,
there
would
be
very
little
or
minimal.
B
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
Take
off
this
and
do
a
port
cochere,,
but
that
wouldn't
be
cochere,,
but
that
wouldn't
be
fitting
for
the
neighborhood
fitting
for
the
neighborhood,
because
the
neighborhood
have
because
the
neighborhood
have
--
porches
are
such
a
--
porches?
Are
such
a
significant,
architectural
or
significant,
architectural
or
character-defining
element
in
character-defining
element
in
the
neighborhood,
and
this
is
the
neighborhood,
and
this
is
not
a
contributing
structure,,
not
a
contributing
structure,.
So
this
is
a
way
to
give
it.
H
In
the
neighborhood.
but
the
original
--,
and
let
me
but
the
original
--
and
let
me
go
back
to
the
---
I
will
just
go
back
to
the
--.
I
will
just
conclude
your
question
by
just
conclude
your
question
by
just
saying
the
outline
of
the
saying.
The
outline
of
the
building
itself,
though,
is
being
building
itself,
though,
is
being
maintained
on
the
first
floor,.
B
H
H
H
B
B
B
B
This
whole
brand-new
front
piece
you
have
got
going
on
in
piece.
You
have
got
going
on
in
the
front
of
the
building.
the
front
of
the
building..
What
I
am
interested
in
finding,
what
I
am
interested
in
finding
out
is:
how
does
this
reach
the
out
is?
How
does
this
reach
the
ground?
ground??
How
does
that
integrate
with.
H
H
H
suspended
wood
floor
structure.,
and
I
had
shown
that
in
the
and
I
had
shown
that
in
the
wall
section,,
which
I
can
show
wall
section,,
which
I
can
show
again.
again.,
but
the
--,
the
rest
of
the
but
the
--,
the
rest
of
the
building,
with
the
exception
of
building,
with
the
exception
of
this
wall
here
--,
and
I
think.
H
H
H
A
A
A
matches?
What
is
there
now?
or
will
a
new
foundation
or
will
a
new
foundation
closure,
be
added?,
closure
be
added?
and
on
the
east,
ends,
are
you
and
on
the
east
ends,?
Are
you
going
to
leave
that
as
is
or
going
to
leave
that,
as
is
or
will
you
do
anything
to
that?
To
will
you
do
anything
to
that
to
make
it
match
the
remaining.
H
H
Should
go
to
the
elevations,,
I
think
--.
I
think
I
understand
think
--.
I
think
I
understand
what
you
are
saying,
because
I
what
you
are
saying,
because
I
didn't
show
by
of
the
piers
didn't
show
by
of
the
piers
along
here
and
here,
and
that
is
along
here
and
here,
and
that
is
because
when
we
did
the
because
when
we
did
the
asbuilt
drawing,,
it
was
all
asbuilt
drawing,,
it
was
all
lattice
and
only
when
I
went
lattice
and
only
when
I
went
back
with
comments
that
elaine
back
with
comments
that
elaine
had
that.
H
H
Existing
piers
will
remain
and
oar
be
replaced
if
they
need
to
oar,
be
replaced
if
they
need
to
have
a
new
footing,
based
on
the
have
a
new
footing,
based
on
the
loads
being
superimposed
on
loads
being
superimposed
on
them,,
but
around
the
perimeter,
them,,
but
around
the
perimeter,
yeah,.
It
will
be
piers
with
yeah,.
It
will
be
piers
with
some
sort
of
foundation,
wood.
H
H
We
have
the
pier
with
bricks
--,
it
is
painted.,
it
is
painted.,
not
stucco.,
not
stucco.,
and
you
have
the
suspended
wood
and
you
have
the
suspended
wood
floor,
structure.
floor
structure.
and
you
have
screen
--
some
and
you
have
screen
--
some
sort
of
wood
screen,
lattice
sort
of
wood
screen,
lattice
that
we
will
work
with
staff
to
that.
We
will
work
with
staff
to
make
sure
it
is
appropriately.
B
B
Lattice
effect
being
foremost
and
in
front
of
everything
that
and
in
front
of
everything
that
you
are
going
to
have
in
here.,
you
are
going
to
have
in
here.,
then
can
you
talk
to
us?
How
you
then,
can
you
talk
to
us
how
you
are
going
to
be
dealing
with
are
going
to
be
dealing
with
that
pier
and
which
appears
to
that
pier
and
which
appears
to
be
openness
at
your
new
front.
B
H
Expressed
as
being
open.
is
that
your
intent?
is
that
your
intent?
absolutely.
absolutely..
I
understand
your
question
now..
I
understand
your
question
now.
yes,,
so
this
area
right
here,
--
yes,,
so
this
area
right
here
--
and
I
should
have
shown
it
and
I
should
have
shown
it
better
--
and
also
on
the
side,
better
--
and
also
on
the
side
where
you
see
it
here,
--
the.
H
B
B
B
H
Historical
record.,
as
of
right
now
we
are
as
of
right
now
we
are
retaining
them
with
the
intent
retaining
them
with
the
intent
of
replacing
them
in
the
fu
of
replacing
them
in
the
fu
future.
future..
It
was
just
--,
you
know,
--
you,
it
was
just
--,
you
know,
--,
you
know
to
talk
--,
having
know
to
talk
--
having
preliminary
discussions
and
preliminary
discussions
and
contractor
windows
are
always
contractor.
H
H
H
And
--
and
realize
in
the
--
we
would
replace
every
window
with,
would
replace
every
window
with
an
appropriate
style
window,
an
appropriate
style
window,,
but
if
it
is
not
economically,
but
if
it
is
not
economically
feasible,,
but
I
will
say
if
feasible,,
but
I
will
say
if,
during
construction
they
decide
during
construction,
they
decide
that
they
do
want
to
go
ahead,
that
they
do
want
to
go
ahead
and
replace
those,.
We
will
work.
H
Windows,
with
the
horizontal
--
that
are
trying
to
emphasize
that
are
trying
to
emphasize
the
horizontal,
and
they
don't
the
horizontal,
and
they
don't
look
right.
look
right..
They
look
like
a
awning,
a
they
look
like
a
awning,,
a
series
of
awning
windows
series
of
awning
windows
instead
of
two
double-hung
instead
of
two
double-hung
windows,,
two
over
twos.
B
C
C
Compared
to
the
new,,
please?
was
the
french
door.
The
one
was
the
french
door,
the
one
that
you
showed
us
before
that
that
you
showed
us
before
that.
Had
the
wood
look
to
it?,
had
the
wood
look
to
it?,
or
do
you
have
a
sample
of
that
or
do
you
have
a
sample
of
that
french
door?
That
is
going
to
be.
H
H
Be
no
--,
there
would
be
no
lights
there
and
that
would
lights
there,
and
that
would
match
this
door
right
here
that
match
this
door
right
here
that
doesn't
have
any
lights
and
doesn't
have
any
lights
and
window.
That's
don't
have
any
window,
that's
don't
have
any
lights,
because
that
sort
of
lights,
because
that
sort
of
colonial
style
light
pattern
is
colonial
style.
Light
pattern
is
not
appropriate
style
for
the
not
appropriate
style
for
the
house.
house..
So
that
was
--.
Is
that
what
you.
C
H
C
D
D
D
The
existing
windows
--
you
concern-
was
the
proportion
--
concern
was
the
proportion
--,
the
existing
windows
that
are
the
existing
windows
that
are
--,
that
you
are
keeping
still
--,
that
you
are
keeping
still
are
sort
of
keeping
the
are
sort
of
keeping
the
proportion,,
but
everything
new
proportion,,
but
everything
new
has
--
is
going
to
something,
has
--
is
going
to
something
different.
different.,
so
your
new
windows
are
not.
H
H
E
The
windows
and
like
to
modify
the
application
to
include
the
application
to
include
replacing
all
the
windows.,
replacing
all
the
windows.
okay.
okay.
camaria
pettis-mackle:,
st
camaria
pettis-mackle:,
st
story,
camaria
pettis-mackle
story,
camaria
pettis-mackle
from
the
city
attorney's
of
from
the
city
attorney's
of
office.
office..
I
want
to
clarify
for
the
I
want
to
clarify
for
the
record
what
the
applicant
--
record,
what
the
applicant
--
well
--!
You
are
not
modifying!
H
H
okay.?
We
have
--,
we
have
some
windows,
we
have
--.
We
have
some
windows
that
are
--,
that
we
are
going
that
are
--,
that
we
are
going
to
leave
as
existing,
and
I
to
leave
as
existing,,
and
I
think
if
the
board
is
having
an
think
if
the
board
is
having
an
issue
with
that,,
I
think
we
issue
with
that,.
I
think
we
will
go
ahead
and
replace
all.
H
Will
go
ahead
and
replace
all
the
windows.,
the
windows.?
It
was
just
always
my.
It
was
just
always
my
understanding
if
--,
if
the
understanding,
if
--,
if
the
scope
of
the
work
is
the
scope
scope
of
the
work,
is
the
scope
of
work
and
everything
that
you
of
work
and
everything
that
you
are
doing
meets.
Code,
you
are
are
doing
meets
code,.
You
are
good.
good..
I
didn't
know
that
we
would
be.
H
So
--
reminded
me:
if
we
modify
more
than
25%
of
the
windows
more
than
25%
of
the
windows,
which
we
obviously
are
here,,
which
we
obviously
are
here,
all
the
windows
need
to
be
all
the
windows
need
to
be
brought
up
to
code.
brought
up
to
code..
That
is
going
to
force
us
when
that
is
going
to
force
us
when
we
go
into
permitting
to
go
and.
E
E
I
want
to
make
sure
this
is
not
a
change
of
the
application,
a
change
of
the
application
because
already
a
request
to
because
already
a
request
to
modify
the
--,
the
site
modify
the
--
the
site,
improvements,
exterior
improvements,
exterior
improvements.
improvements..
So
it
is
not
as
--.
It
is
not
so
it
is
not
as
--.
It
is
not
going
to
be
a
new
application
going
to
be
a
new
application
or
changing
of
the
application.
F
F
F
What
I
heard
as
the
prior,
what
I
heard
as
the
prior
question,
which
was
actually
one
question
which
was
actually
one
of
my
own,
was
that
when
you
of
my
own
was
that
when
you
start
to
look
at
the
new
start
to
look
at
the
new
openings,
that
you
are
prop
openings,
that
you
are
prop
proposing,,
there
are
--
there.
Proposing,
there
are
--
there
do
seem
to
be
variances
in
the
do
seem
to
be
variances
in
the
sizes,.
Both
the
width
and.
F
Height,,
both
sill
and
head
heights
compared
to
the
heights
compared
to
the
existing
openings
that
you
are
existing
openings,
that
you
are
retaining.
retaining.
and
I
think
that
is
the,
and
I
think
that
is
the
question
is,.
Is
that
question
is,?
Is
that
intentional,
or
is
there
some
intentional
or
is
there
some
refinement
that
needs
to
be
refinement
that
needs
to
be
made
to
the
design
so
that
they.
F
F
I
did
not
hear
in
my
view
that
anyone
was
suggesting
that
all
anyone
was
suggesting
that
all
the
windows
needed
to
be
the
windows
needed
to
be
replaced.
replaced.
in
fact,.
The
fact
that
the
in
fact,
the
fact
that
the
client,
the
owner
is
trying
to
client,
the
owner
is
trying
to
preserve
some
of
that
historic
preserve.
Some
of
that
historic
fabric
is
something
that
the
fabric
is
something
that
the
commission
typically
applauds.
F
D
D
D
H
H
H
H
H
D
C
Two
windows
relative
to
the
o
ones
on
--
ones,
on
--
all
three
windows.,
all
three
windows.,
so
even
if
you
replace
them..
So
even
if
you
replace
them.
the
actual
holes
for
the
window,
the
actual
holes
for
the
window
--
the
orientation
is
diff
--.
The
orientation
is
diff
different.
different.
on
all
of
them.
H
H
H
H
H
Let's
see.
oh,,
I
know
why
that
one
is
oh,.
I
know
why
that
one
is
different,,
because
that
--
this
different,,
because
that
--
this
is
actually
in
the
bedroom.,
is
actually
in
the
bedroom.
and
the
reason
it's
high.
Is
we
and
the
reason
it's
high?
Is
we
needed
a
window
on
this
side
needed
a
window
on
this
side?
That
would
sort
of
balance
this?
H
That
would
sort
of
balance
this
out,,
but
we
couldn't
have
it
out,,
but
we
couldn't
have
it
the
same
size
as
this
window,
the
same
size
as
this
window
because
it
would
get
down
in
because
it
would
get
down
in
the
roof,.
So
we
just
did
half
a
the
roof,,
so
we
just
did
half
a
one
of
one
of
these
windows
and
one
of
one
of
these
windows
and
we
turn
and
go
to
the
rear
of
we
turn
and
go
to
the
rear
of
the
elevation,
then,.
You
know,
the
elevation,
then,
you
know,.
D
D
Front
elevation
that
you
just
had
showings.
had
showings..
We
can
see
the
sitting
room,
we
can
see
the
sitting
room
window
from
the
front
elev
window
from
the
front,
elev
elevation,,
but
so
looking
at
elevation,,
but
so
looking
at
the
front
elevation
to
the
the
front
elevation
to
the
right
of
that
would
be
a
door
right
of
that
would
be
a
door
that
opens
up
to
a
rest,
room.
H
H
H
D
Comments
that
we
need
a
better
view
of
that
elevation,
which
is
view
of
that
elevation,
which
is
why
--?
Why
--,
I
think,
that's
--.
It
is,
I
think,
that's
--.
It
is
fine.
fine..
I
understand
that
the
door
is.
I
understand
that
the
door
is
there.
there..
I
am
struggling
with
the
door.
I
am
struggling
with
the
door
to
the
rest
room
facing
the
to
the
rest
room
facing
the
street,,
but
that
--,
I
suppose.
D
D
D
H
H
D
D
A
Questions.
zachary
greco:,
so
I
have
one
zachary
greco:,
so
I
have
one
question
kind
of
to
continue
on
question
kind
of
to
continue
on
the
idea
of
anything.
That
is
the
idea
of
anything
that
is
currently
hidden
behind
the
currently
hidden
behind
the
aluminium
soft
fits.,
aluminium,
soft
fits.,
any
of
the
trim.
any
of
the
trim..
What
would
be
your
intentions?
What
would
be
your
intentions
if
you
do
take
those
off
and
if
you
do
take
those
off
and
not
exposed
rafter
tails
and.
A
H
H
Event,
there
are
no
rafter
tails.
tails.,
we
will
have
to
reassess,,
but
I
we
will
have
to
reassess,,
but
I
would
probably
recommend
to
my
would
probably
recommend
to
my
clients
that
we
do
the
rafter
clients
that
we
do
the
rafter
tails,
because,
again,,
that
is
tails,
because,
again,.
That
is
such
a
defining
feature
to
all.
H
H
A
A
You
go
to
your
front
elevation..
I
think
it
is
the
west..
I
think
it
is
the
west.
okay.
okay.,
the
current
elevation,
where
the
the
current
elevation,
where
the
new
french
doors
are
going
to
new
french
doors
are
going
to
be
located,
is
a
window,
and
be
located,
is
a
window,
and
that
door
is
kind
of
hidden
on.
A
A
H
H
Think
proportion
alley,,
the
porch
would
have
been
little
porch
would
have
been
little
wide.
wide.
and
there
would
be
only
a
and
there
would
be
only
a
single
gable,
here.
single
gable,
here.,
a
much
larger
gable.,
a
much
larger
gable.,
and
then
it
is
always
a
and
then
it
is
always
a
struggle
to
get
columns
and
b.
H
H
H
H
H
H
And
then
also,
as
I
mentioned,
before,
right
now,,
this
area
is
before,
right
now,.
This
area
is
sort
of
fenced
in.,
sort
of
fenced
in.
that
is
sort
of
their
outdoor,
that
is
sort
of
their
outdoor
living
area
because
they
don't
living
area
because
they
don't
have
a
back.
Yard.
have
a
back
yard..
So
that
is
why
we
pretty
much
so.
That
is
why
we
pretty
much
decided
not
to
do
it
there
and.
A
A
D
H
So
I
thought
you
said
that
that
wood
fence
was
coming
down
that
wood
fence
was
coming
down,
and
would
you
see
that
would
and
would
you
see
that
would
deck
around
the
front?
deck
around
the
front??
You
know
what,,
you
are,
you
know,
what,.
You
are
absolutely
right.,
absolutely
right..
That
was
--.
That
was
a
comment.
H
H
H
H
H
Important
character-defining
feature
of
architecture
and
I
feature
of
architecture,
and
I
think
it
probably
could
use
a
think
it
probably
could
use
a
little
work,.
So
if
--
I
would
be
little
work,.
So
if
--,
I
would
be
perfectly
fine
with
the
perfectly
fine,
with
the
condition
on
the
hopefully
condition
on
the
hopefully
approval
that
we
work
with
staff
approval
that
we
work
with
staff
to
maybe
get
the
windows
tweaked.
A
D
D
F
F
F
F
B
B
The
other
addition
with
respect
to
massing,
with
respect
to
the
to
massing
with
respect
to
the
existing
building
and
existing
building,
and
particularly
its
very,
very,,
particularly
its
very,
very,,
very
odd
placement
on
its
site.,
very
odd
placement
on
its
site..
It's
really
giving
you
it's
really
giving
you
a
--,
quite
a
challenge
to
pull
a
--,
quite
a
challenge
to
pull
off
and
I
think
to
some
respect.
B
B
B
B
A
A
F
Ma
made?
made?.
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion.
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
for
final
approval
with
for
final
approval,
with
conditions.
conditions.
move
to
grant
a
certificate
of
move,
to
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
at
this
and
documents
presented
at
this
public
hearing
in
arc
20-162
for.
F
F
F
E
A
F
susan
klaussmith:
thank
you.,
zachary
greco:.
I
think
you
zachary
greco:.
I
think
you
also
have
--
also
have
--
susan
klaussmith:
oh,,
I'm
susan
klaussmith:
oh,,
I'm
sorry.
sorry.,
I'm
supposed
to
put
I'm
supposed
to
put
they're
--
because
based
upon
they're
--,
because
based
upon
the
finding
of
fact,
the
proposed
the
finding
of
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
project
is
consistent
with
the
seminole
heights
design,
seminole
heights
design,
guidelines
of
the
city
of
tampa
guidelines
of
the
city
of
tampa
for
the
following
reasons.
F
F
F
E
A
A
G
This
is
a
corner
parcel.
the
sanborn
indicates
there
was
the
sanborn
indicates.
There
was
a
transition
with
the
front,
a
transition
with
the
front
porch
that
didn't
run
the
whole
porch
that
didn't
run
the
whole
distance
to
the
front
of
the
distance
to
the
front
of
the
contributing
structure.
contributing
structure.
in
the
rear.
There
was
a
in
the
rear.
There
was
a
transition
room
that
was
a
transition
room
that
was
a
screened
in
area
from
the
screened
in
area,
from
the
exterior
to
the
condition
space.
G
G
G
G
Parking
for
the
larger
structure
parking
a
commodity
in
the
urban
parking,
a
commodity
in
the
urban
areas.
areas.,
so,
instead
of
using
the
alley
to
so,
instead
of
using
the
alley
to
come
in
to
their
accessory,
come
in
to
their
accessory
structure,
they're
using
the
structure,
they're
using
the
primary
street
and
you'll
see
primary
street
and
you'll
see
exactly
what
the
intentions
are
exactly
what
the
intentions
are
through.
The
photos
that
are
to.
G
G
G
G
G
And
then
to
the
rear
of
the
property.
property.,
you
see
the
multiple
gables
and
you
see
the
multiple
gables
and
then
the
--.
This
was
the
then
the
--.
This
was
the
transition
room
that
I
spoke
transition
room
that
I
spoke
about
in
the
sanborn
map.
about
in
the
sanborn
map..
This
was
probably
a
screened
in
this
was
probably
a
screened
in
area,,
and
then
there
was
an
area,
and
then
there
was
an
acondition
sometime,
probably
in
acondition,
sometime
probably
in
the
80s
or
90s
--
addition
that.
G
G
You
have
this
medalian
detail.,
although
the
primary
structure,
although
the
primary
structure
is
wrapped
with
asbestos
siding,
is
wrapped
with
asbestos
siding,
the
overhangs
are
not
so
you
see
the
overhangs
are
not
so
you
see
the
bea
board.,
the
bea
board..
You
see
the
fly.
Rafter.,
you
see
the
fly
rafter.,
you
see
the
rafter
tails
here.
G
G
G
G
G
G
I
spoke
about
the
axilry
parking
to
the
complex.
to
the
complex..
This
was
the
carved
out
area
to
this
was
the
carved
out
area
to
the
north.,
the
north..
This
was
the
alley
and
the
this
was
the
alley,
and
the
property
in
question
is
over.
Property
in
question
is
over
here.
here..
That
concludes
the
photo.
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
We're
still
working
on
that.
the
air
conditioning
equipment,
the
air
conditioning
equipment
shows
on
the
site
plan
the
shows
on
the
site
plan.
The
existing
air
conditioning
unit
existing
air
conditioning
unit
is
on
this
side
of
the
--.
The
is
on
this
side
of
the
--,
the
north
side
of
the
existing
north
side
of
the
existing
single-story
structure.
single-story
structure.
for
the
new
two-story
structure,
for
the
new
two-story
structure,,
the
air
conditioning
unit.
Will
the
air
conditioning
unit
will
be
here
inside
of
the
wood
be
here
inside,
of
the
wood
fence.
fence.
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
You
can
see
the
new
two-story
addition
beyond
that.
addition
beyond
that.
the
rear
elevation
shows
the
the
rear
elevation
shows.
The
shaded
area
is
the
existing
shaded
area
is
the
existing
portion
of
the
house
that
will
portion
of
the
house
that
will
still
be
visible,
and
the
still
be
visible,
and
the
outline
of
the
accessory.
I
Railings
--
the
existing
house
again
on
the
front
elevation,
again
on
the
front
elevation,
the
existing
front,
porch
had
a
the
existing
front.
Porch
had
a
closed
railing,
which
we
suspect
closed
railing,
which
we
suspect
probably
was
closed.
When
the
probably
was
closed
when
the
asbestos
siding
was
added
at
asbestos,
siding
was
added
at
some
point
after
its
original
some
point
after
its
original
construction.
construction..
Being
that
we're
removing
the
being
that
we're
removing
the
asbestos
siding,,
the
intent
is
asbestos
siding,.
I
The
intent
is
to
go
to
a
vertical
picket
to
go
to
a
vertical
picket
railing.
railing.
one
and
a
half
by
one
and
a
half
one
and
a
half
by
one
and
a
half
and
one
and
a
half
inch
spacing
and
one
and
a
half
inch
spacing
between.
between.
the
railings
on
the
front
porch,
the
railings
on
the
front
porch
were
32-inch.
High.
I
I
I
I
I
I
call
a
shiplap,
horizontal
shiplap
and
our
intent
is
to
shiplap,
and
our
intent
is
to
replicate
that
throughout
on
the
replicate
that,
throughout
on
the
new
structure
and
the
accessory
new
structure
and
the
accessory
structure.
structure.
and
it
wits
will
be
a
wood
pine
and
it
wits
will
be
a
wood
pine
shiplap,
so
it
will
be
painted
as
shiplap,
so
it
will
be
painted
as
the
existing
structure
was.
I
I
I
I
All
the
windows
in
the
other
structure
will
be
a
new
exterior
structure,
will
be
a
new
exterior,
clad
window
with
a
wood
interior,
clad
window
with
a
wood
interior,
but
they'll
match
the
but
they'll
match
the
patternoffs.
The
existing
patternoffs,
the
existing
structure.
structure.,
the
three
over
one.,
the
three
over
one.,
where
the
window
is
smaller
and
where
the
window
is
smaller
and
doesn't
allow
for
a
three
over.
I
I
I
We
have
the
same
situation
as
the
previous
situation
as
the
previous
presenter
that
this
room
does
presenter,
that
this
room
does
not
allow
for
a
second
window
not
allow
for
a
second
window
without
running
into
the
roof,
without
running
into
the
roof,.
So
we're
matching
the
width
of
so
we're
matching
the
width
of
the
window
and
the
proportion
the
window
and
the
proportion
from
the
edge
of
the
building
on.
I
I
I
I
I
I
These
windows
here
are
fixed
windows
in
the
garage
and
windows
in
the
garage
and
storage,
area.
storage
area.,
the
overhangs
on
the
accessory,
the
overhangs
on
the
accessory
structure
are
18
inches,
whereas
structure
are
18
inches,
whereas
the
main
house
are
24
inches.,
the
main
house
are
24
inches..
I
One
of
the
reasons
for
that
is
one
of
the
reasons
for
that
is
to
kind
of
shrink,
the
to
kind
of
shrink,
the
proportionoffs,
the
accessory
proportionoffs
the
accessory
structure
and
also
to
be
able
to
structure
and
also
to
be
able
to
comply
with
the
required
comply
with
the
required
setback,.
The
three
and
a
half
setback,,
the
three
and
a
half
foot
setback
for
the
accessory.
I
I
I
I
We
discovered
that
there
was
a
corner
board
on
the
house
that
corner
board
on
the
house
that
was
taken
off
when
the
asbestos
was
taken
off
when
the
asbestos
shingle
and
aluminum
edging
was
shingle
and
aluminum
edging
was
added,.
So
we
do
plan
to
replace
added,.
So
we
do
plan
to
replace
the
corner
boards
on
the
house.,
the
corner
boards
on
the
house..
You
can
see
the
air
conditioning.
I
I
I
I
The
--
again,,
the
overhang
is
exposed
tails
with
bead
board
exposed
tails
with
bead
board
sheathing
on
top.
sheathing
on
top.,
where
the
shingles
occur
over,
where
the
shingles
occur
over
the
main
parts
of
the
enclosed,
the
main
parts
of
the
enclosed
parts
of
the
house,.
If
we
can
parts
of
the
house,,
if
we
can
switch
to
a
conventional.
I
I
J
J
J
J
A
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
Itself
with
the
removal
of
the
asbestos
siding,,
what
was
asbestos
siding,?
What
was
underneath.
underneath.?
They
talked
about
on
the
they
talked
about
on
the
projector,.
I
have
the
exposed
projector,.
I
have
the
exposed
siding
with
the
determination
of
siding
with
the
determination
of
the
corner
boards.,
the
corner,
boards.
--
termination
of
the
corner,
--
termination
of
the
corner,
boards.
boards.,
the
gable
ends
that
will
be
the
gable
ends
that
will
be
replicated,
although
they're
replicated,
although
they're
using
the
(inaudible)
on
the
ice.
G
G
Breaks
up
the
massing
on
the
elevations.
elevations.
also,
as
part
of
the
also,
as
part
of
the
incapsulation
of
the
primary
incapsulation
of
the
primary
structure,,
the
underbelly
of
the
structure,,
the
underbelly
of
the
overhangs
were
still
exposed,
so
overhangs
were
still
exposed.
So
we
know
what
the
members.
G
G
G
The
board
feels
comfortable
delegating
to
staff,
along
with
delegating
to
staff,
along
with
the
exploration
of
incorporating
the
exploration
of
incorporating
a
window
on
the
southwest
a
window
on
the
southwest
elevation
of
the
accessory
elevation
of
the
accessory
structure.
structure..
This
is
the
elevation
that
faces.
G
G
G
And
then
additional
informtion
on
the
garage
door.
on
the
garage
door..
There
was
not
a
garage
door
that
there
was
not
a
garage
door
that
was
submitted
today,,
but
he
did
was
submitted
today,.
But
he
did
talk
about
a
clopay
door
with
talk
about
a
clopay
door
with
glazing
on
top.
glazing
on
top..
That's
something
they
can
that's
something
they
can
delegate
to
staff
as
well.
A
That
completes
the
staff's
finding
at
this
time.
finding
at
this
time..
I'm
here
to
answer
any
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions.
questions.
zachary
greco:.
Thank
you
very
zachary
greco:.
Thank
you
very
much.
much.
at
this
point,
we'll
open
the
at
this
point,
we'll
open
the
hearing
to
any
public
comment,.
A
Hearing
to
any
public
comment,,
either
for
or
against,
if
anyone
either
for
or
against,
if
anyone
would
like
to
speak,,
would
you
would
like
to
speak,?
Would
you
please
go
to
a
podium??
Please
go
to
a
podium?,
all
right.
all
right.,
seeing
and
hearing
none,
we
will
seeing
and
hearing
none,.
We
will
now
move
to
the
commissioners
now
move
to
the
commissioners
being
able
to
ask
questions
being
able
to
ask
questions
about
the
project.
C
C
C
C
Window
on
that
side
at
all?,
or
is
that
a
possibility?
Because
or
is
that
a
possibility?
Because
in
--,
why
I'm
asking
is
because
in
--,
why
I'm
asking
is
because
it's
a
corner
lot,
so
it's
kind,
it's
a
corner
lot.
So
it's
kind
of
a
nice
book
end
and
it
will
of
a
nice
book
end
and
it
will
be
visible
even
though
you
have,
be
visible,
even
though
you
have,
like,,
where
the
fence
line
would
like,
where
the
fence
line
would
be.
I
I
I
I
C
C
I
C
I
I
I
C
C
I
I
C
C
I
do
have
somewhat
of
an
issue
with
that
blank
wall
just
with
that
blank
wall,
just
because
it
is
a
corner
lot,
and
because
it
is
a
corner
lot,
and
that
the
fact
that
the
fence
is
that
the
fact
that
the
fence
is
not
to
that
point,.
So
that's
not
to
that
point,.
So
that's
going
to
be
definitely
visible,
going
to
be
definitely
visible,
as
people
walk
by.
C
J
Sorry.
you
need
the
mike
ophone..
You
need
the
mike
ophone.
we're
going
to
--
microphone.
we're
going
to
--
microphone.
we're
going
to
get
in
trouble,
we're
going
to
get
in
trouble
with
legal.
with
legal.,
because
it's
a
laundry
room,
because
it's
a
laundry
room
and
typically
that
includes
a
and
typically
that
includes
a
counter
in
there,.
It
would
be
counter
in
there,.
It
would
be
difficult
to
drop
a
full-sized
difficult
to
drop
a
full-sized
window
in
there
to
make
sense.
C
C
C
C
I
I
B
B
Reintroducing
a
picket
rail,
element.,
element.,
yes.,
yes.,
stephen
sutton:
throughout
the
stephen
sutton:
throughout
the
site.
site.,
to
the
point
where
it's
not
an
to
the
point
where
it's
not
an
insignificant
detail
in
and
of
insignificant
detail
in
and
of
itself.
itself.,
you
have
a
whole
porch
involved.
B
E
E
B
D
D
D
B
B
B
B
B
I
B
Gable
facing
gunby
and
the
front
gable
on
the
garage.
gable
on
the
garage.
stephen
sutton:,
the
only
stephen
sutton:.
The
only
reason
why
I
bring
this
up
is
reason
why
I
bring
this
up.
Is
you're
going
through
an
awful
you're
going
through
an
awful
lot
of
trouble
right
now
to
have
lot
of
trouble
right
now
to
have
these
additional
elements,
these
additional
elements
brought
on
to
the
site,
and
brought
on
to
the
site,,
and
there
is
just
that
--
to
me
one.
I
B
A
I
I
A
A
G
G
A
J
A
A
A
A
I
A
J
A
I
A
A
A
A
The
gunby
elevation,,
you
continue
your
roof
under
the
continue
your
roof
under
the
gables
or,,
you
know,,
wherever
gables
or,,
you
know,,
wherever
there
would
be
vents,
and
in
this
there
would
be
vents,
and
in
this
case
there
are
not
any.
case.
There
are
not
any.
that
does
match
the
existing
that
does
match
the
existing
house
on
this
elevation.
A
A
A
I
Same
element
up
above.
the
lattice
pattern
to
this.
the
lattice
pattern
to
this.,
but
this
is
a
vertical
roof,
but
this
is
a
vertical
roof:
here.
here.
a
gable
end.,
a
gable
end.,
so
that
actually
could
be
a
so
that
actually
could
be
a
gable
end,
in
which
case
we'd
gable
end,
in
which
case
we'd
have
a
barge
rafter
to
match,
have
a
barge
rafter
to
match
these,
and
we
could
dispense
these,
and
we
could
dispense
with
the
overhang
on
that
front.
A
With
the
overhang
on
that
front.
dispense
with
the
hip
on
the
dispense
with
the
hip
on
the
front.
front.
zachary
greco:
okay.
zachary
greco:
okay.,
the
only
other
real
question
I
the
only
other
real
question
I
have
is
the
peaks
--
I
mean,
have
is
the
peaks
--.
I
mean,
understanding
that
you'll
never.
A
A
A
I
A
A
A
I
I
I
I
A
A
A
fixed
sidelines
with
operable.
zachary
greco:
and
the
four
zachary
greco:
and
the
four
windows
above
those
on
the
windows
above
those
on
the
second
floor.
On
the
northeast,
second
floor
on
the
northeast,,
the
portions
of
those
don't
the
portions
of
those
don't
really
seem
to
--,
I
mean,
really
seem
to
--.
I
mean,
they're,
not
the
same
size
as
the
they're,
not
the
same
size
as
the
french
doors
down
below
and
french
doors
down
below,
and
that's
the
only
spot
where
that.
I
I
I
I
A
A
I
A
A
I
I
F
I
A
A
D
I
I
A
I
F
F
F
F
I
F
Structure
didn't
have
any
french
doors.
doors.
understood,
but
we're
also
understood,
but
we're
also
talking
about
period.
talking
about
period.
period
in
historic
timeframe,
for
period
in
historic
timeframe,
for
the
district,
and
you
have
zoned
the
district,
and
you
have
zoned
in
on
the
craftsman
style.
F
So
just
want
some
clarity
on
the
intent,
because
you
will
see
intent
because
you
will
see
those,,
especially
the
upper
ones
those,,
especially
the
upper
ones
from
the
street
view.
from
the
street
view.
perspective
view
or
straight
on
perspective
view
or
straight
on
view.
view..
So
just
some
clarity
there.
I
Between
the
accessory
structure
and
the
main
structure
in
terms
and
the
main
structure
in
terms
of
the
french
doors.
of
the
french
doors.
well,,
I
guess
my
thought
was
well,.
I
guess
my
thought
was
that
the
french
door
is
quite
that
the
french
door
is
quite
common
in
hyde
park,
and
I
common
in
hyde
park,
and
I
thought
that,,
you
know,
being
thought
that,,
you
know,,
being
that
there
were
no
french
doors,
that
there
were
no
french
doors
in
the
original
that
we
might
be.
F
In
the
original
that
we
might
be
able
to
introduce
that.
able
to
introduce
that.,
there
are
obviously
a
lot
of.
There
are
obviously
a
lot
of
different
patterns
that
can
be
different
patterns
that
can
be
chosen.
chosen.
susan
klaussmith:
right.,
susan
klaussmith:
right..
The
question
here
is
not
--
is
the
question
here
is
not
--
is
french
doors
correct.
I
F
F
J
J
Whatever
is
the
commission's
pleasure,,
if
it's
--,
if
they'd
pleasure,,
if
it's
--,
if
they'd
like
the
one
light,
so
there
is
like
the
one
light,
so
there
is
more
consistency
or
that
it
more
consistency
or
that
it
match
the
french
doors,.
I
don't
match
the
french
doors,.
I
don't
think
the
clients
have
a
problem.
J
J
D
D
D
So
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
our
doors,.
We
want
them
to
be
as
doors,.
We
want
them
to
be
as
time
period
as
they
possibly
time
period
as
they
possibly
can.
can..
They
will
all
match.,
they
will
all
match.
whatever
we
end
up
putting
on
whatever
we
end
up
putting
on
the
balcony
up.
In,
you
know,
on
the
balcony
up
in,
you
know,
on
the
porch
on
the
main
home.
D
Will
the
porch
on
the
main
home
will
be
also
the
same
doors
we
put
on,
be
also
the
same
doors
we
put
on
the
balcony
on
the
accessory,
the
balcony
on
the
accessory
structure.
structure.
thank
you.
thank
you.,
same
thing
with
the
front
same
thing
with
the
front
door.
door.
the
front
door
put
on
the
front.
D
A
I
Okay.
at
this
point,
the
applicant
is
at
this
point:
the
applicant
is
allowed
five
minutes
for
a
allowed
five
minutes
for
a
rebuttal.
rebuttal..
I
think
the
only
rebuttal
I
I
think
the
only
rebuttal
I
have
would
be
that
I'm
pleased
have
would
be
that
I'm
pleased
to
be
able
to
work
with
a
client
to
be
able
to
work
with
a
client
who
does
appreciate
historic,
who
does
appreciate
historic
precedence
and
architecture.
I
A
An
approval,
we're
happy
to
incorporate
all
the
elements
we
incorporate
all
the
elements
we
talked
about
tonight
into
the
talked
about
tonight
into
the
proposal.
proposal.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
zachary
greco:.
Thank
you.
at
this
point
we'll
be
closing
at
this
point,
we'll
be
closing
the
public
hearing.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
C
C
C
The
window
on
gunby,,
the
additional
vents
and
then
the
additional
vents
and
then
the
matching
doors
of
course.
matching
doors
of
course..
I
think,
as
long
as
all
of
those,
I
think,
as
long
as
all
of
those
elements
are,
as
the
condition,
elements
are,
as
the
condition,
I'm
comfortable
moving
forward.
I'm
comfortable
moving
forward..
It
is
a
beautiful
house..
It
is
a
beautiful
house..
It's
going
to
be
even
more.
D
F
F
F
Even
in
this
time
of
covid,,
I'd
expect
to
see
cut
sheets
for
expect
to
see
cut
sheets
for
design
intent
for
much
of
the
design
intent
for
much
of
the
elements
we
discussed.
elements
we
discussed.
another
thing,,
I'm
a
little
bit
another
thing,,
I'm
a
little
bit
uncomfortable
of
the
style
of
uncomfortable
of
the
style
of
the
rear,
porch
addition.,
the
rear,
porch
addition..
I
find
that
to
be
more
in
the
I
find
that
to
be
more
in
the
colonial
mannerisms
rather
than
colonial
mannerisms,
rather
than
a
craftsman,
language.,
a
craftsman
language.
F
And
the
introduction
of
a
hitch
gable
condition
which
doesn't
gable
condition
which
doesn't
currently
exist
in
this
house
or
currently
exist
in
this
house
or
in
what
we
have
seen
as
in
what
we
have
seen
as
precedent.
That's
been
offered
precedent.
That's
been
offered
here
tonight,
either
by
staff
or
here
tonight,
either
by
staff
or
the
agent.,
the
agent..
They
just
don't
seem
consistent..
F
They
just
don't
seem
consistent..
I
think
reflecting
upon
the,
I
think,
reflecting
upon
the
historic
record.
That's
within
historic
record.
That's
within
the
existing
structure
is
the
existing
structure
is
important
to
review
and
important
to
review
and
reconsider,.
So
I
think
some
of
reconsider,.
So
I
think
some
of
the
comments
made
when
you
were
the
comments
made
when
you
were
asked
when
commissioner
greeko
asked
when
commissioner
greeko
was
asking
questions
about
the
was
asking
questions
about
the
roof
forms,
especially
at
the.
F
Gable
ends
were
right
on
point.,
another
one,,
the
discussion
of
another
one,,
the
discussion
of
how
the
roof
lines
came
together,
how
the
roof
lines
came
together
as
the
rear,,
whether
or
not,
you
as
the
rear,,
whether
or
not,
you
know,,
there
should
be
a
know,.
There
should
be
a
reassessment
of
that.
F
F
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
G
A
A
A
I
I
I
I
A
We
can
provide
those,
you
know,
immediately.
immediately.,
zachary
greco:.
Would
you
like
zachary
greco:?
Would
you
like
us
to
--
us
to
--
approve.
approve.
zachary
greco:
you'd,
like
us,
zachary
greco:
you'd
like
us
to
put
a
motion
in
to
either
to
put
a
motion
in
to
either
approve
or
decline
and
approve
or
decline
and
understanding
that
if
it
is
understanding
that,
if
it
is
declined,
what
that
means?
A
G
J
That
is
a
substantial
change.
I'd
request.
The
city
I'd
request
the
city
attorney's
office
to
please
attorney's
office
to
please
provide
the
applicant
some
provide
the
applicant
some
examples
of
--.
I
sat
on
this
examples
of
--.
I
sat
on
this
board
for
nine
years.
board
for
nine
years..
Everything
these
folks
have
everything
these
folks
have
asked
for
to
rely
to
go
on
to.
J
J
A
A
D
A
D
D
D
D
Is
wood,
and
it
requires
a
lot
more
work
to
maintain
over
the
more
work
to
maintain
over
the
lifetime
of
a
home
than
if
I
lifetime
of
a
home
than
if
I
were
to
go
and
put,
like,,
the
were
to
go
and
put,
like,,
the
vinyl
siding
or
whatever
that's
vinyl,
siding
or
whatever,
that's
up
or
whatever,
that
siding
is
up
or
whatever.
That
siding
is
that
they
do.
that
they
do.
we're
going
to
go
back
and
put.
D
We're
going
to
go
back
and
put
the
exact
same
kind
of
wood
from
the
exact
same
kind
of
wood
from
100
years
ago
that
we
know
we're
100
years
ago
that
we
know
we're
taking
on
the
responsibility
taking
on
the
responsibility,
because
it's
so
important
for
us,
because
it's
so
important
for
us
to
be
able
to
make
it
to
be
able
to
make
it
historically
correct.,
historically
correct.
the
doors
that
I've
looked
at,,
the
doors
that
I've
looked
at,-
and
I
do
have
all
that
stuff-
and
I
do
have
all
that
stuff
picked.
Out.
D
D
craftsman,
doors.,
solid
doors,
with
pretty
little
solid
doors,
with
pretty
little
windows
up
at
the
top.
windows.
Up
at
the
top.,
I've
gone
to
the
garage
door,
I've
gone
to
the
garage
door
place
and
picked
out
based
on
place
and
picked
out.
Based
on
what
--
I
drove
through
and
what
--
I
drove
through
and
looked
at
50
different
garage
looked
at
50
different
garage,
doors.
D
D
D
A
Wait:
12
months,,
I
can't
do
that.
zachary
greco:
one
option,
zachary
greco:
one
option
would
be
for
us
to
vote
for
or
would
be
for
us
to
vote
for
or
against.
against..
The
next
option
would
be
to
the
next
option
would
be
to
place
a
continuance.
place,
a
continuance.,
unfortunately,
the
next
available.
Unfortunately,
the
next
available
is
september,
so
that
would
be
is
september,
so
that
would
be
two
months.
two
months..
Unfortunately,
we
do
have
to
vote.
A
Unfortunately,
we
do
have
to
vote
on
what's
been
presented,
today,
on,
what's
been
presented,
today,
so
because
of
that
information.
So
because
of
that
information,
not
included
today,.
If
we
do
not
included
today,,
if
we
do
vote,,
we
have
to
vote
on
what
we
vote,.
We
have
to
vote
on
what
we
have.
have.,
so
you
do
have
the
option
to
so
you
do
have
the
option
to
allow
us
either
to
vote
for
or
allow
us
either
to
vote
for
or
against
or
allow
the.
I
I
I
A
A
A
A
F
Camaria
pettis-mackle:,
I
don't
understand
the
question.,
understand
the
question.
zachary
greco:.
Let's
say
if
zachary
greco:,
let's
say:
if
commissioner
--
commissioner
--
camaria
pettis-mackle:
it
camaria
pettis-mackle:,
it
would
fail.
would
fail.
the
motion
would
fail.
the
motion
would
fail..
We
couldn't
then
put
forward.
E
D
D
D
E
E
E
A
motion
to
deny
the
certificate
of
appropriateness,
or
the
of
appropriateness,
or
the
commissioners
could
make
a
commissioners
could
make
a
motion
to
based
on
their
motion
to
based
on
their
approval
of
the
applicant
to
approval
of
the
applicant
to
continue
the
hearing.
In
order
to
continue
the
hearing
in
order
to
gather
additional
information.
E
E
A
Motion
--,
the
commissioner,
puts
forth
a
motion
to
approve,,
deny
forth
a
motion
to
approve,,
deny
or
request
a
continuance.
or
request
a
continuance.
zachary
greco:.
I
apologize.
zachary
greco:.
I
apologize..
If
we
put
a
motion
to
approve,
if
we
put
a
motion
to
approve
with
conditions,,
that
is
--.
D
E
E
I
E
A
A
D
A
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
This
drive
out
terminates
about
this
drive
out,
terminates
about
halfway
through
the
half,
so
if
halfway
through
the
half,
so
if
this
driveout
was
continued
to
this
driveout
was
continued
to
house
all
the
automobiles
in
a
house,
all
the
automobiles
in
a
proper
location
within
the
proper
location
within
the
historic
district,
it
would
historic
district,
it
would
infringe
on
the
roof
system,
infringe
on
the
roof
system.
That's
there.!
G
G
Will
be
depressed
and
the
introduction
of
the
new
driveout
introduction
of
the
new
driveout
in
that
location.
in
that
location.?
This
is
looking
at
the
east.
This
is
looking
at
the
east,
elevation.
elevation.,
obviously
the
front
porch
and
as
obviously
the
front
porch
and
as
you
work
your
way
to
the
rear.
G
G
G
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
The
driveway
location
is
another
important
consideration.
important
consideration..
When
we
look
at
the
layout
of
when
we
look
at
the
layout
of
the
house,,
all
the
bedrooms
are
the
house,.
All
the
bedrooms
are
on
the
left
side,.
So
that's
the
on
the
left
side,.
So
that's
the
private
side.,
private
side.
and
all
the
public
spaces,.
The.
H
H
H
H
Reasons,,
but
also
there
is
two
really
nice:
grand
live
oaks
on
really
nice
grand
live
oaks
on
the
west,
side,,
so
doing
the
the
west
side,
so
doing
the
driveway
there
would
impede
driveway
there
would
impede
that.,
that.
and
also,.
We
really
need
to
have
and
also,.
We
really
need
to
have
the
master
bedroom
on
the
left.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
The
trees
are
over
on
this
side.
Here.
here.,
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see,,
I
don't
know.
If
you
can
see,
it's
a
little
dark.,
it's
a
little
dark.
there
is,
you
know,
standard
or
there
is,
you
know,
standard
or
typical,
brick
piers
and
the
typical
brick
piers
and
the
foundation
lattice
screen
foundation.
Lattice
screen
enclosure
is
just
horizontal.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
There
is
a
curb
cut:
here.
looks
to
be
original
from,
looks
to
be
original
from
the
'20s.,
the
'20s.
zachary
greco:.
Could
you
--
zachary
greco:?
Could
you
--
oh,,
I'm
sorry.
oh,,
I'm
sorry.
move
it
up.,
move
it
up..
So
that's
going
to
be
removed,,
so
that's
going
to
be
removed,
and
we're
going
to
create
a
new
and
we're
going
to
create
a
new
one
over
here.
one
over
here..
One
of
the
staff
comments
was
one
of
the
staff
comments
was
having
indicated
scoring
having
indicated
scoring
patterns,,
so
we're
going
to
have
patterns,.
H
H
H
Then
we
have
the
ribbons
going:
back.
back.,
the
air
conditioning
unit,
which
the
air
conditioning
unit,
which
is
on
this
side
of
the
house,
is
on
this
side
of
the
house,
will
be
moved
over
to
here.,
will
be
moved
over
to
here.
right
behind
this
fence,
with
the
right
behind
this
fence
with
the
gate.
H
H
can't
have
them
parked
out
here.,
the
fence
is
just
beyond
--.
The
the
fence
is
just
beyond
--.
The
fire
place
has
windows
on
either
fire
place
has
windows
on
either
side,
so
the
fence
is
just
beyond
side,
so
the
fence
is
just
beyond
that.
that.
over
on
this
side
is
where
the
over
on
this
side
is
where
the
two
grand
oaks
are,
and
two
grand
oaks
are,
and
we're
--
as
far
away
as
we
can.
H
H
Escavate
and
piers-
that's
a
relatively
small
footprint.,
relatively
small
footprint..
This
is
just
a
one-story.
This
is
just
a
one-story
addition.
addition..
The
program
was
not
very.
The
program
was
not
very
aggressive.
aggressive..
It
was
very
simple,
so
it's
a
it
was
very
simple.
So
it's
a
very
simple
addition
to
the
back
very
simple
addition
to
the
back
of
the
house.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
I
know
everything
is
on
the,,
you
know,
the
arc
reviews,
the
know,,
the
arc
reviews
the
exterior,,
but
I
think
it's
exterior,,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
the
important
to
understand
the
interior
lay
out
because
that
interior
lay
out,
because
that
talks
about
the
design
of
talks
about
the
design
of
fenestration
and
the
massing
and
fenestration
and
the
massing
and
form.
form..
This
is
a
small
living
room..
H
H
This
is
where
you
enter
the
master
bedroom
here,
so
you
master
bedroom
here.
So
you
aren't
--
you're
entering
it.
Aren't
--
you're
entering
it
between
the
kitchen
and
living
between
the
kitchen
and
living
room.
So
you
have
a
little
room,
so
you
have
a
little
hallway
that
goes
into
the
hallway
that
goes
into
the
laundry
room.
laundry
room..
Then
you
have
the
bedroom.,
then
you
have
the
bedroom.,
then
the
kitchen
--,
the
then
the
kitchen
--,
the
bathroom,,
you
know,.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
So
it's
a
little
more
narrow
to
fit
within
the
interior
space.
fit
within
the
interior.
Space..
You
can
see
from
the
side
here,
you
can
see
from
the
side
here,
the
steps
that
has
a
little
the
steps
that
has
a
little
railing
and
it's
a
wood
railing,
railing
and
it's
a
wood,
railing,
and
the
pickets
are
just
two
by
and
the
pickets
are
just
two
by
two
pickets
and
then
a
four
by
two
pickets
and
then
a
four
by
four
post.,
four
post.,
the
siding,,
the
corner
boards,
the
siding,,
the
corner
boards
will
all
match.
H
H
H
H
H
H
Then
you
have
the
brackets,
which
match
the
existing,
and
then
match
the
existing,,
and
then
these
are
the
steps
which
you,
these
are
the
steps
which
you
saw
in
the
side.
Elevation.
saw
in
the
side.
Elevation.
again,
this
window
is
the
same
again.
This
window
is
the
same
size
as
the
existing
windows,.
H
H
very
similar
to
the
east.
One.
porch
comes
off
and
then
the
porch
comes
off
and
then
the
addition
here,.
So
this
is
bump
addition
here,.
So
this
is
bump
out,
which
is
the
master
bedroom
out,
which
is
the
master
bedroom,
which
has
a
pair
of
windows
on
which
has
a
pair
of
windows
on
either
side
of
the
bed,,
and
this
either
side
of
the
bed,.
And
this
is
a
small
kind
of
feature.
H
H
H
H
H
The
existing,
again,
four
and
a
half
and
side
casing.,
half
and
side
casing.,
four
and
a
half
inch
head
casing:
four
and
a
half
inch
head
casing
that
extends
a
little
beyond
and
that
extends
a
little
beyond
and
then
drip
cap
and
an
inch
and
then
drip
cap
and
an
inch
and
three
quarter.
Sill.
That
extends.
H
H
H
The
little
red
you
see
here
is,
I
inadvertently
left
off
the
water
inadvertently
left
off
the
water
table
and
the
band
that
are
--
I
table
and
the
band
that
are
--.
I
think
you
saw
that
in
the
--
in
think
you
saw
that
in
the
--
in
the
elevation.,
the
elevation.
or
the
pictures
when
I
was
going
or
the
pictures
when
I
was
going
through
it.
through
it.,
that
needs
to
be
added
to
this..
H
That
needs
to
be
added
to
this..
The
walls
will
be
two
by
four.
The
walls
will
be
two
by
four
frame:
walls,
with
siding
to
match
frame
walls
with
siding
to
match
the
existing.,
the
existing.
then
two
by
six
rafter
tails,
then
two
by
six
rafter
tails,
like
the
existing,
however,
on
like
the
existing,
however,
on
the
gable
ends,
you
have
a
little
the
gable
ends.
You
have
a
little
bit
larger.
bit
larger.
a
two
by
eight
rafter
and
then.
H
The
end
of
the
rafter.
dimensional
asphalt
shingles
for
dimensional
asphalt,
shingles
for
the
roof.,
the
roof.
and
on
the
gable
end
detail,
you
and
on
the
gable
end
detail,,
you
can
kind
of
--.
I
think
bracket
can
kind
of
--.
I
think
bracket
detail
was
one
of
the
staff
detail
was
one
of
the
staff
comments.
comments..
I
actually
had
a
detail,
but
I
I
actually
had
a
detail,
but
I
forgot
to
include
it.
H
H
H
The
two
by
eight
facia.-
this
has
the
same
pitch
as
the
this
has
the
same
pitch
as
the
existing
roof,
which
is
three
and
existing
roof,
which
is
three
and
a
half
by
twelve.,
a
half
by
twelve..
You
have
juan
by
two,,
you
know,,
you
have
juan
by
two,,
you
know,,
underneath
the
metal
drip
and
underneath
the
metal
drip
and
around
the
roof
edge
and
the
around
the
roof
edge
and
the
finished
wood
soffit.
H
H
So
we
just
have
a
header
there
for
the
width
of
the
opening,
for
the
width
of
the
opening,,
and
these
are
just
two
by
six,
and
these
are
just
two
by
six
conventionally
framed
rafter
conventionally
framed
rafter
tails.
tails.,
because
this
is
a
smaller,
because
this
is
a
smaller
subservient
element,.
We
just
subservient
element,.
We
just
have
a
smaller
18
inch
or
one.
H
Doors
are
especially
critical
when
they're
wood,
because
when
they're
wood,
because
they're
so
exposed
to
the
they're
so
exposed
to
the
weather.
weather.,
they
have
relatively
small,
they
have
relatively
small
styles
of
rails
and
they
tend
to
styles
of
rails
and
they
tend
to
warp.
warp..
They
just
don't
hold
up
over.
H
H
H
H
Will
be
the
parking
area,
that's
behind
the
fence.
behind
the
fence.,
the
other
elements
for
the
the
other
elements
for
the
details
I
have
with
the
other
details
I
have
with
the
other
project
which
I
can
--.
I
don't
project
which
I
can
--.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
see
it,
but
know
if
you
want
to
see
it,,
but
the
dimensional
asphalt
shingles
the
dimensional
asphalt
shingles
for
the
roof.
H
for
the
roof.,
the
hardware,.
We
are
using
the
hardware,.
We
are
using
period
appropriate
door
hardware
period,
appropriate
door
hardware
and
also
for
the
light
fixtures
and
also
for
the
light
fixtures,
too.
too.
those
will
be
period.
Those
will
be
period,
appropriate.
appropriate..
This
is
all
in
the
back
of
the.
H
H
H
Before
is
the
windows.
we're
going
to
work
closely
with
we're
going
to
work
closely
with
staff
and
there
is,
like,,
two
or
staff,
and
there
is,
like,,
two
or
three
window
companies
in
tampa
three
window
companies
in
tampa
that
regularly
supply
wood
that
regularly
supply
wood
windows,
so
we'll
be
working
with.
G
G
G
G
Should
be
submitted
to
staff.
the
other
item
that
was
not
the
other
item
that
was
not
discussed
is
that
there
is
no
discussed
is
that
there
is
no
foundation
enclosure
on
the
foundation
enclosure
on
the
existing
structure.
existing
structure..
On
page
56
of
the
hyde
park
on
page
56
of
the
hyde
park,
design
guidelines,,
there
is
a.
A
A
C
H
C
D
H
H
There
is
the
single
door
at
the
bathroom,
and
then
there
is
a
bathroom
and
then
there
is
a
pair
of
doors
at
the
--
on
the
pair
of
doors
at
the
--
on
the
family
room
side
and
those
are
family
room
side
and
those
are
the
only
three
exterior
doors.,
the
only
three
exterior
doors..
That's
what
we're
using
in
those.
D
F
A
A
H
A
A
You're,
referring
to
this
detail
right,
here.
detail
right,
here.,
zachary
greco:.
I
think
if
my
zachary
greco:,
I
think,
if
my
understanding
correctly
was
understanding
correctly
was
staff
was
pointing
to
sort
of
staff,
was
pointing
to
sort
of
the
wood
board
that
comes
across
the
wood
board
that
comes
across
the
gable,
kind
of
the
top.
Where.
H
H
H
H
A
H
F
F
F
D
D
Project
is
consistent
with
the
following
conditions.
following
conditions.
that
the
window
specification
that
the
window
specification
and
the
foundation
enclosure
are
and
the
foundation
enclosure
are
approved
by
staff
because
based
approved
by
staff,
because
based
upon
the
finding
of
fact,
the
upon
the
finding
of
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent.
D
A
C
G
Motion
passes.
congratulations.,
congratulations.,
zachary
greco:
thank
you.,
zachary
greco:
thank
you.,
staff?,
staff?
ron,
vila:
commissioners,,
the
ron
vila:
commissioners,,
the
last
item
we
have
to
address
last
item
we
have
to
address
this
evening.
Is
we
hunted
from
this
evening?
Is
we
hunted
from
the
beginning
of
the
hearing,
the
the
beginning
of
the
hearing,
the
election
of
officers.