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A
Zachary
greco:
welcome,
everyone.
everyone.,
my
name
is
zachary
greco,
chair.
My
name
is
zachary
greco,.
Chair
of
the
commission.
of
the
commission.-
if
you're
here
to
present
a
if
you're
here
to
present
a
project,,
you
will
have
limited
project,.
You
will
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentation,
time
to
make
your
presentation,,
so
we
suggest
being
thorough,
but
so
we
suggest
being
thorough
but
concise.
concise..
When
coming
to
the
microphone,
when
coming
to
the
microphone,,
you
will
need
to
identify,
you
will
need
to
identify
yourself
and
your
relationship
yourself
and
your
relationship
to
the
project.
A
to
the
project.
commissioners
will
not
ask
any
commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
questions
during
your
presentation.
presentation..
Your
project
should
be
presented.
Your
project
should
be
presented
in
the
following
order:
site
in
the
following:
order:
site:
plan,
elevations,,
architectural
plan,,
elevations,,
architectural
details,
and
wall
sections.,
details,
and
wall
sections.
staff
will
then
present.
The
staff
will
then
present
the
staff
report
and
will
then
ask
staff
report
and
will
then
ask
the
public
for
comment.
A
the
public
for
comment.
following
your
presentation,,
the
following,
your
presentation,,
the
commissioners
will
be
asking
commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
questions
in
the
same
order
as
the
presentation..
The
presentation.,
please
state,
and
spell
your
name,
please
state
and
spell
your
name
clearly
if
you
are
here
to
speak
clearly,
if
you
are
here
to
speak,
either
for
or
against
a
project.,
either
for
or
against
a
project.,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes,.
So
take
some
time
three
minutes,.
So
take
some
time
now.
A
A
for
rebuttal..
The
public
hearing
will
then
be.
The
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed.
closed.
the
only
comments
which
will
be
the
only
comments
which
will
be
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
allowed.
After
the
public
hearing
is
closed,
will
be
in
response.
To
is
closed
will
be
in
response
to
any
questions
from
the
any
questions
from
the
commissioners.
commissioners..
A
The
arc
can
only
act
on
items
that
are
within
our
specific
that
are
within
our
specific
jurisdictional,
responsibilities,
jurisdictional,
responsibilities,
owners
and
agents.
Are
owners
and
agents
are
independently
responsible
to
independently
responsible
to
obtain
any
appropriate
permits
obtain
any
appropriate
permits.
And/Or
approvals.,
and/or
approvals..
If
you
haven't
already
done
so,,
if
you
haven't
already
done
so,,
please
silence
all
cell
phones.,
please
silence
all
cell
phones.
at
this
point,.
I
will
ask
my
at
this
point,.
I
will
ask
my
commissioners,,
my
fellow
commissioners,,
my
fellow
commissioners,
to
introduce.
A
E
Camaria
pettis-mackle.
ron,
vila:
good
evening,
ron,
vila:
good
evening,,
commissioners.
commissioners.,
I'm
ron
vila,
staff
with
I'm
ron,
vila,
staff
with
historic,
preservation.,
historic
preservation..
This
evening
we
have
a
full.
This
evening
we
have
a
full
agenda,,
so
we're
going
to
move
agenda,,
so
we're
going
to
move
down
the
agenda
items.
E
B
Interest
and
ex
parte
communication.
communication.
legal
is
camaria,
pettis-mackle,
legal
is
camaria
pettis-mackle,
and
she
will
address
the
board
and
she
will
address
the
board
at
this
time.
at
this
time.
camaria
pettis-mackle:
good
camaria,
pettis-mackle:,
good
evening.
evening.,
I'm
going
to
first
start
with
a
I'm
going
to
first
start
with
a
question:
of,
have
any
of
the.
B
Question
of,
have
any
of
the
commissioners
had
any
ex
parte
commissioners
had
any
ex
parte
communications
regarding
any
of
communications
regarding
any
of
the
items
that
are
listed
on
the
the
items
that
are
listed
on
the
agenda?
agenda?
no.
no.
no.
no.,
not
I.
not
I.
camaria
pettis-mackle:
thank
camaria
pettis-mackle:
thank
you.
you.
next,
do
any
of
the
next,.
Do
any
of
the
commissioners.
Have
any
conflicts,
commissioners
have
any
conflicts
of
interest
regarding
any
of
the.
B
Items
that
are
listed
on
the
agenda?
agenda?
no.
no.
no.
no.,
not
I.
not
I.
I'd
like
to
disclose
that
I
I'd
like
to
disclose
that
I
have
an
existing
relationship,
have
an
existing
relationship
with
the
law,
firm
of
which
one
with
the
law
firm
of
which
one
of
the
applicants
is
employed
of
the
applicants,
is
employed,
by.
by..
So
I'd
like
to
recuse
myself.
B
E
E
You.
ron
vila:
thank
you.
ron
vila:
thank
you..
Looking
at
continuations,
there,
looking
at
continuations,
there
are
none
associated
with
are
none
associated
with
tonight's
agenda.
tonight's
agenda.
at
this
time,
everybody
that
at
this
time,
everybody
that
wishes
to
testify,
please
stand
wishes
to
testify,.
Please
stand
up
and
raise
your
right
hand,
up
and
raise
your
right
hand,,
including
staff,
to
be
sworn
in.
E
B
B
Good
evening,
commissioners.
elaine,
lund.,
elaine,
lund.,
historic
preservation,
staff.
historic
preservation,
staff.
the
first
case
this
evening
is
the
first
case
this
evening
is
located
at
602
east
frances,
located
at
602
east
frances
avenue
in
the
tampa
heights
avenue
in
the
tampa
heights:
historic
district.,
historic
district..
This
is
part
2
of
an
ad
valorem.
B
B
B
B
To
a
lot
of
the
interstate
work,
that's
been
ongoing
for
several
that's
been
ongoing
for
several
years.
years..
This
is
the
1920
sanborn
map
of
this
is
the
1920
sanborn
map
of
the
site.,
the
site..
The
house
is
actually
the
one
the
house
is
actually
the
one
that
was
located
directly
to
the
that
was
located
directly
to
the
east
at
604
frances.
B
East
at
604
frances.,
the
applicants
had
the
the
applicants
had
the
responsibility
of
purchasing
the
responsibility
of
purchasing
the
home
from
the
department
of
home
from
the
department
of
transportation
and
relocating
it
transportation
and
relocating
it.
One
parcel
over
so
that
it
would
one
parcel
over
so
that
it
would
not
be
in
the
right-of-way
of
not
be
in
the
right-of-way
of
the
department
of
the
department
of
transportation.
B
B
B
B
A
B
Can
you
hear
me
now?
zachary
greco:
yes.
zachary
greco:
yes.
hi.
hi..
My
name
is
nicole
perry,.
One
of
my
name
is
nicole
perry,,
one
of
the
two
owners
at
602
east,
the
two
owners
at
602,
east
frances,
avenue.,
frances,
avenue..
I'm
sorry
that
my
husband
can't
I'm
sorry
that
my
husband
can't
be
here
tonight.,
be
here
tonight..
We
actually
just
had
a
baby
a
we
actually
just
had
a
baby
a
week
ago.
week
ago..
He
is
in
the
car
with
the
baby.
B
B
B
I
decided
to
figure
out
who
owned
it
and
came
to
realize,
owned
it
and
came
to
realize
that
f.d.o.t.
owned
it,
and
they
that
f.d.o.t.
owned
it,
and
they
would
be
selling
it
at
auction.,
would
be
selling
it
at
auction..
So
we
first
won
it
at
auction,
so
we
first
won
it
at
auction
and
then
had
to
go
through
the
and
then
had
to
go
through
the
process
of
picking
it
up
and
process
of
picking
it
up
and
moving
it
to
the
lot
next
door.
B
B
B
B
damage
and
water
damage
as
well..
So
I
want
to
go
through
pictures,
so
I
want
to
go
through
pictures
of
what
the
house
looks
like
of
what
the
house
looks
like
now.
now.,
so
we
picked
it,
up,
moved
it,,
so
we
picked
it
up,
moved
it,
and
then
renovated
it
over,
I
and
then
renovated
it
over,.
I
don't
know,
like
from
july
of
don't
know,
like
from
july
of
last
year
to
finally
got
to
move
last
year.
To
finally
got
to
move
in
in
may
of
this
year.
B
B
B
Time
period,
we
tried
to
keep.
here
are
some
pictures
of
what
here
are
some
pictures
of
what
the
house
looks
like
now
on
the
the
house
looks
like
now
on
the
outside.
outside.
the
front
porch
had
to
be
the
front,
porch
had
to
be
rebuilt.
rebuilt.,
it
was
one
of
the
worst
parts
of
it
was
one
of
the
worst
parts
of
how
the
house
had
kind
of
rotted
how
the
house
had
kind
of
rotted
away.
away..
B
We
kept
the
original
front
door,
we
kept
the
original
front
door
and
just
replaced
the
glad,
and
just
replaced
the
glad,,
which
had
been
busted
out.,
which
had
been
busted
out.
and
then
the
back
side
of
the
and
then
the
back
side
of
the
house
you
can
see.
Has
a
little
house
you
can
see,
has
a
little
bit
different
of
a
profile
now.
B
B
B
On
the
house,
and
there's
a
picture
of
that.
picture
of
that.
and
the
interior
here
is
a
and
the
interior
here
is
a
picture
of
when
you
walk
in
the
picture
of
when
you
walk
in
the
house,,
we
originally
were
going
house,.
We
originally
were
going
to
take
out
this
wall
to
take
out
this
wall
completely,,
but
then
we
decided
completely,,
but
then
we
decided
we
wanted
to
maintain
more
of.
B
Here's
another
picture:
--
sorry.,
another
picture
of
the
living,
another
picture
of
the
living
room
with
the
original
room
with
the
original
fireplace,,
which
we
have
not
fireplace,,
which
we
have
not
opened
up
yet,,
but
we
plan
to,
opened
up
yet,,
but
we
plan
to,,
but
we
did
redo
like
the
wood
on,
but
we
did
redo
like
the
wood
on
it,,
any
wood
that
was
rotted
or
it,
any
wood
that
was
rotted
or
termite
damaged.
termite
damaged..
This
is
a
picture
of
the.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
Porch
of
the
here
is
the
back
porch
of
the
house,,
which
we
used
bead
board
house,,
which
we
used
bead
board
on
the
ceiling,,
and
we
kept
the
on
the
ceiling,
and
we
kept
the
windows
in
the
kitchen
in
the
windows
in
the
kitchen
in
the
same
spot
as
they
were
before
same
spot
as
they
were
before
and
just
made
the
porch
a
little
and
just
made
the
porch
a
little
bit.
Bigger.
B
B
B
B
B
Zachary
greco:
thank
you.,
elaine,
lund:,
elaine,
lund,
elaine
lund:,
elaine,
lund,
again,
historic
preservation,
again,
historic
preservation,
staff.
staff.
for
the
staff
report
for
this
for
the
staff
report
for
this
application,
I
just
want
to
go
application,.
I
just
want
to
go
over
a
few
things
about
the
ad
over
a
few
things
about
the
ad
valorem,
historic
preservation,
valorem,
historic
preservation,
tax
exemption,
program.
B
B
B
And
after
the
building
was
relocated,,
the
historic
relocated,,
the
historic
preservation.
Commission
preservation,
commission
redesignated
the
structure
as
redesignated
the
structure
as
contributing
to
the
tampa
contributing
to
the
tampa
heights.
Historic
district,
and
heights
historic
district,
and
that's
important
to
be
able
to
that's
important
to
be
able
to
go
through
to
receive
the
ad
go
through
to
receive
the
ad
valorem.
Exemption..
B
B
B
B
This
program
is
a
little
different
from
what
you
usually
different
from
what
you
usually
see
in
that
both
the
interior,
see
in
that
both
the
interior
and
the
exterior
are
reviewed
by
and
the
exterior
are
reviewed
by
the
board.,
the
board.,
the
exterior,
of
course,
was
--.
The
exterior,
of
course,
was
--,
as
the
project
was
ongoing,
was.
B
As
staff,,
I
work
closely
with
the
owners
as
well,
while
they,
the
owners
as
well
while
they
were
going
through
the
process,
were
going
through
the
process.
Here.
here.
in
their
staff,
report,
you'll
in
their
staff
report,
you'll
see,.
I
think,
on
page
4
that
I
see,
I
think,
on
page
4
that
I
did
include
some
of
the
did
include
some
of
the
information
about
the
information
about
the
recommendations
for
recommendations
for
rehabilitating
--
sorry,,
the
rehabilitating
--
sorry,.
The
guidelines
for
rehabilitating.
B
A
A
B
A
A
B
B
Located
at
602
east
frances
avenue
for
the
rehabilitation
of
avenue
for
the
rehabilitation
of
this
property,
because
based
upon
this
property,
because
based
upon
the
finding
of
facts
in
the
the
finding
of
facts
in
the
record,,
the
proposed
project
is
record,.
The
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
secretary
of
consistent
with
the
secretary
of
interior
standards
for
interior
standards
for
rehabilitation
and
the.
A
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
A
F
F
They
are
a
young,,
growing
family,
and
they
have
an
family,
and
they
have
an
existing
accessory
structure.
Existing
accessory
structure
that
is
fairly
small.,
that
is
fairly
small.,
it's
fairly
dilapidated
and
it's
it's
fairly
dilapidated
and
it's
not
very
useful
and
certainly
not
very
useful
and
certainly
will
not
fit
a
car.
F
Will
not
fit
a
car..
Their
primary
program
was
that
their
primary
program
was
that
they
needed
to
--
or
wanted
to
they
needed
to
--
or
wanted
to
do
a
new
accessory
building
that
do
a
new
accessory
building
that
would
accommodate
one
car
on
the
would
accommodate
one
car
on
the
ground:
floor,
obviously,
plus
ground
floor,
obviously,,
plus
some
additional
living
space,.
F
F
F
F
F
This
is
existing
shed.,
there's
a
fairly
large
pecan,
there's
a
fairly
large
pecan
tree
here,
and
then
there's
tree
here,
and
then
there's
another
tree
here..
Another
tree
here.,
both
of
these
trees
are
going
to
both
of
these
trees
are
going
to
be
removed.,
be
removed..
A
couple
of
the
challenges
on.
F
F
I
think
you
might
have
seen
in
the
photographs
how
tight
this
the
photographs,
how
tight
this
is.
is.
most
of
the
houses
in
seminole,
most
of
the
houses
in
seminole
heights,.
Typically,
they
are
heights,.
Typically,
they
are
oriented
to
one
side
of
the
oriented
to
one
side
of
the
property
or
the
other
to
property
or
the
other
to
accommodate
a
driveway
that
goes
accommodate
a
driveway
that
goes
back
to
an
accessory
building.
F
So
it's
really
not
clear,
which
is
the
side
that
we'd
have
a
is
the
side
that
we'd
have
a
driveway
continue.
All
the
way
to
driveway
continue
all
the
way
to
the
back.,
the
back..
But
another
common
pattern
in,
but
another
common
pattern
in
the
neighborhood
is
to
have
the
neighborhood
is
to
have
accessory
buildings
accessed
accessory
buildings
accessed
from
the
alley
and
not
even
have
from
the
alley
and
not
even
have
a
driveway.
a
driveway..
This
is
just
going
to
all
remain.
F
F
F
F
F
F
Here
that
could
accommodate
maybe
a
future
horizontal,
maybe
a
future
horizontal
sliding
gate.
sliding
gate.
a
similar
arrangement
was
a
similar
arrangement
was
approved
by
this
board
on
approved
by
this
board
on
another
project.
I
worked
on
another
project.
I
worked
on
probably
a
couple
of
years
ago,
probably
a
couple
of
years
ago,
that
is
just
a
block
away.,
that
is
just
a
block.
Away.
transportation
had
some
concerns.
F
F
F
F
F
We're
proposing
it
at
seven
feet,
and
then
at
the
end,
I
was
feet,
and
then
at
the
end,.
I
was
going
to
conclude
and
talk
about
going
to
conclude
and
talk
about
the
design
concept,
a
little
more,
the
design
concept
a
little
more
because
I
didn't
want
to
confuse,
because
I
didn't
want
to
confuse
the
board
with
what
we're
the
board
with
what
we're
presenting
here.
F
F
Close
to
950
square
feet.,
so
you
have
the
access
to
the
so
you
have
the
access
to
the
building
from
this
little
building
from
this
little
walkway,,
and
then
you
enter
this
walkway,
and
then
you
enter
this
part
right,
here,,
which
I'll
show
part
right,
here,
which
I'll
show
in
the
floor
plan,.
But
then
you
in
the
floor
plan,,
but
then
you
enter
the
garage.
Here.
F
F
F
This
really
is
a
covered
entry
to
enter
the
garage
or
go
to
the
to
enter
the
garage
or
go
to
the
upstairs.
upstairs.,
and
then
the
garage
is
12
feet
and
then
the
garage
is
12
feet,
wide,,
plus
some
additional
space,
wide,,
plus
some
additional
space
underneath
the
stairs.
underneath
the
stairs.
and
then
the
second
floor,
you.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
Clearance
here
for
a
vehicle.,
so
the
elevations,-
I
guess
I'll
so
the
elevations,-
I
guess
I'll
just
start
with
the
alley.
just
start
with
the
alley.,
the
alley,.
As
I
said,
before,
we,
the
alley,,
as
I
said
before,
we
have
a
north-south
facing
gable,,
have
a
north-south
facing
gable,.
So
the
alley
is
a
very
simple.
F
F
This
is
the
living
area,
here,
and
then
there's
a
kitchen
area
and
then
there's
a
kitchen
area,
here.
here.
in
the
floor,
plan,
we
configured
in
the
floor.
Plan,
we
configured
the
kitchen,
so
we
could
get
a
the
kitchen,
so
we
could
get
a
full-height
window
there
and
full-height
window
there
and
then
a
small
window.
So
at
least
then
a
small
window.
So
at
least
we
get
some
natural
light
in
the.
F
F
These
are
the
two
small
windows.
and
the
kitchen,.
So
it's
counter
and
the
kitchen,.
So
it's
counter
height
to
the
sill,
and
then
height
to
the
sill,.
And
then
this
is
the
small
window
in
the
this
is
the
small
window
in
the
bathroom,.
So
you
have
a
nice
bathroom,,
so
you
have
a
nice
simple,
symmetry
there.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
The
typical
wall
section
is
basically
monolithic,
slab.,
basically
monolithic
slab.,
it's
a
very
simple,
inexpenive,
it's
a
very
simple,
inexpenive
foundation,
system,
and
the
grade
foundation,
system,
and
the
grade
is
relatively
flat,,
so
it
works
is
relatively
flat,,
so
it
works.
Well.
well..
We
have
two
by
four
frame,.
F
F
Width
to
the
second
floor,
we
can
accommodate
a
smaller
floor
can
accommodate
a
smaller
floor
thickness
which
keeps
the
height
thickness,
which
keeps
the
height
of
the
building
down.
of
the
building
down.
which,
by
the
way,,
the
overall
which,
by
the
way,.
The
overall
height
is
21
feet
to
the
ridge.
F
F
F
F
F
As
fault
shingles,
on
top
of
that.
that.,
the
window
details,,
it's
amazing
the
window
details,.
It's
amazing
how
similar
all
the
windows
are,
how
similar
all
the
windows
are
in
seminole
heights,,
but
there
in
seminole
heights,,
but
there
are
always
little
subtle.
Changes,
are
always
little
subtle.
Changes
between
the
windows.
F
between
the
windows.
for
example,,
just
about
all
the
for
example,,
just
about
all
the
houses
have
a
little
bit
of
a
houses,
have
a
little
bit
of
a
sill
extension,,
which
we
have
on
sill
extension,,
which
we
have
on
this
house.
this
house.,
but
there's
no
head
extension,,
but
there's
no
head
extension,,
but
there
is
a
little
bit
more,
but
there
is
a
little
bit
more
of
an
elaborate
crown.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
Details,
this
is
similar
to
what
we're
doing,
but
it's
what
not
to
we're
doing,
but
it's
what
not
to
do.
do.,
I
hope
a
lot
of
people
that
are,
I
hope,
a
lot
of
people
that
are
watching
this
will
talk
to
their
watching.
This
will
talk
to
their
contractors
and
say
"do,
not
do
contractors
and
say
"do
not
do
this."
this.".
These
are
southern
yellow
pine,.
F
These
are
southern
yellow
pine,,
not
pressure
treated,
rafter,
not
pressure
treated,,
rafter
tails,
which
normally
are
fine
tails,
which
normally
are
fine
for
exposed,
rafter
tails,,
as
for
exposed
rafter
tails,,
as
long
as
they
are
properly
primed
long
as
they
are
properly
primed
and
painted.
and
painted..
The
problem
is
that's
not
the
problem
is
that's
not
typically
done..
F
F
away
from
this.,
so
you'll
see
so
many
new
houses,
so
you'll
see
so
many
new
houses
that
were
built
with
exposed
that
were
built
with
exposed,
rafter
tails.
rafter
tails.
within
a
couple
of
years,
these
within
a
couple
of
years,.
These
are
rotted,
away.
are
rotted
away.
and
then
also
using
a
deeper.
F
F
design,
here,,
it's
a
fiberglass.,
it's
an
entry
door,
but
we're
it's
an
entry
door,
but
we're
using
it
on
the
garage.
So
it
has
using
it
on
the
garage.
So
it
has
a
little
bit
of
detail
and
also
a
little
bit
of
detail
and
also
add
natural
light
into
the
add
natural
light
into
the
garage.
garage.,
the
other
door,,
the
door
that
the
other
door,
the
door
that
goes
to
the
living
spaces
is
goes
to.
The
living
spaces
is
more
like
a
sash-type
door.
F
The
styles
and
rails
are
well
proportioned.
proportioned.,
the
trim
around
the
glass
is
the
trim
around.
The
glass
is
very
simple
and
clean,
and
it
very
simple
and
clean-
and
it
doesn't
show
in
this
picture,-
doesn't
show
in
this
picture,,
but
it
has
a
very
fine
wood,
but
it
has
a
very
fine
wood,
grain.
grain..
So
once
this
is
painted,,
you.
F
difference
between
it
and
wood..
It's
important
for
exterior
it's
important
for
exterior
doors
to
be
made
of
a
product
doors
to
be
made
of
a
product
that
resists
all
the
dramatic
that
resists
all
the
dramatic
changes
in
temperature
and
changes
in
temperature
and
humidity
that
we
have
in
humidity
that
we
have
in
florida.
florida..
The
windows
that
we're
using
are.
F
F
I
used
them
on
most
of
my
projects
in
the
historic
projects
in
the
historic
districts
that
I
have
done
in
districts
that
I
have
done
in
the
last
two
or
three
years.,
the
last
two
or
three
years..
It
is
called
h-3
because
it
is
a
it
is
called
h-3,
because
it
is
a
hybrid
window
that
takes
hybrid
window
that
takes
advantage
of
the
best
uses
of.
F
F
F
F
F
F
Elements
are
the
light
fixtures.
on
the
porches,,
we'll
probably
on
the
porches,,
we'll
probably
do
in
the
center
of
each
do
in
the
center
of
each
ceiling,
one
where
the
two
doors
ceiling,
one,
where
the
two
doors
are
that
go
to
the
upstairs
and
are
that
go
to
the
upstairs
and
to
the
garage,
very
simple,.
F
To
the
garage,
very
simple,
ceiling-mounted
fixture
like
ceiling-mounted
fixture
like
this.
this.
and
then,
if
my
clients
decide
and
then,
if
my
clients
decide
that
they
do
want
to
have,
maybe
that
they
do
want
to
have.
Maybe
a
wall-mounted
fixture,
here
is
a
wall-mounted
fixture,.
Here
is
the
wall-mounted
fixture
in
the
the
wall-mounted
fixture
in
the
same
series.
same
series..
I
don't
know
if
the
camera
can.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
Hopefully,
get
approval
for
this,,
but
also
get
the
board
to,
but
also
get
the
board
to
approve
a
contingency
that
if
we
approve
a
contingency
that
if
we
do
get
a
design
exception
that
do
get
a
design
exception.
That
will
allow
us
to
reduce.
That
will
allow
us
to
reduce
that
down
to
four
feet,.
Then
that.
F
A
A
B
B
A
A
B
C
C
F
Going
to
do
there?
yes,,
I
actually
--.
I
did
this
yes,,
I
actually
--.
I
did
this
on
a
project
about
five
years
on
a
project
about
five
years
ago
for
accessory
building
in
ago
for
accessory
building
in
hyde,
park,
and
everybody
thought
hyde,
park,
and
everybody
thought
it
was
fun,.
So
I
thought
I
would
it
was
fun,,
so
I
thought
I
would
do
it
again..
F
F
C
F
Unit?,
I
know
it's
probably
behind
a.
I
know
it's
probably
behind
a
fence,,
but
still
is
it
going
to
fence,,
but
still
is
it
going
to
be
screened?
be
screened?
to
be
honest,?
I
really
didn't
to
be
honest,.
I
really
didn't
talk
to
my
client
too
much
about
talk
to
my
client
too
much
about
the
fence.,
the
fence.
currently,,
there's
just
a
simple
currently,,
there's
just
a
simple
sort
of
blockade-type
fence
that
sort
of
blockade-type
fence
that
runs
around
the
property.
F
runs
around
the
property..
So
we
would
--.
We
would
continue
so
we
would
--.
We
would
continue
that
and
have
that
continue
that
and
have
that
continue
across
here.
across
here.
so,
yes,.
It
would
--
well,
you
so,
yes,.
It
would
--
well,.
You
saw
in
the
one
photograph
saw
in
the
one
photograph
there's
a
fence
here,
so
you
there's
a
fence
here,
so
you
don't
see
it
from
the
front.,
don't
see
it
from
the
front.,
like
I
said,
we
would
have
the
like.
I
said,.
We
would
have
the
fence
turn
here
and
you
wouldn't.
F
Fence
turn
here,
and
you
wouldn't
see
it
from
this:
side.
see
it
from
this
side..
It's
just
a
small,
like
the
size,
it's
just
a
small,
like
the
size
of
a
suitcase,
because
it
is
a
of
a
suitcase
because
it
is
a
mini-split
system
that
we're
mini-split
system
that
we're
using.
using..
That's
also
what
allows
us
to
be.
C
C
B
B
I
just
--
the
agent
has
brought
up
somethig
that
is
--,
that
up
somethig,
that
is
--.
That
needs
to
be
addressed
with
the
needs
to
be
addressed
with
the
zoning
deparment.
zoning
deparment.
and
as
a
result,
I'd
ask
the
and,
as
a
result,,
I'd
ask
the
commissioners
just
to
remain
commissioners
just
to
remain
focused
on
the
application
for
focused
on
the
application
for
the
certificate
of.
C
A
A
F
F
And
if
it
is
denied,,
then
I
guess
we
come
back
to
the
board.
Guess
we
come
back
to
the
board
and
address
this
later.
and
address
this
later.,
so
we'll
work
with
staff
on
so
we'll
work
with
staff
on
that.
that.,
so
right,
now,
we're
proposing
at
so
right,
now,
we're
proposing
at
7
feet,,
which
is
the
closest
we.
A
D
D
A
C
C
At
the
public
hearing
in
arc
20-290
for
the
property
located
20-290
for
the
property
located
at
5506,
north
seminole
avenue
at
5506,
north
seminole
avenue
because,,
based
on
the
finding
of
because,
based
on
the
finding
of
fact,.
The
proposed
project
is
fact,.
The
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
seminole
consistent
with
the
seminole
heights
historic
guidelines
of
heights,
historic
guidelines
of
the
city
of
tampa
for
the
the
city
of
tampa
for
the
following
reasons:,
the
following
reasons:,
the
accessory
structure
matches
the
accessory
structure,
matches
the
scale,
massing,
orientation,
and.
A
E
E
E
E
What's
coming
forward
to
you
this
evening
is
for
a
new
this
evening
is
for
a
new
construction
for
a
single-family
construction
for
a
single-family
residence
with
an
accessory
residence
with
an
accessory
structure.
structure..
The
zoning
classification
is
pd,,
the
zoning
classification
is
pd,
and
the
architectural
style
is,
and
the
architectural
style
is
mediterranean
revival.,
mediterranean
revival..
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
the
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
the
pd
of
that
plan
that
was
pd
of
that
plan.
That
was
approved,
and
that's
going
to
be
approved,
and
that's
going
to
be
presented
to
you.
E
E
here..
The
second
one
will
be,
an
the
second
one,
will
be,
an
decision
to
a
contributing
decision
to
a
contributing,
structure.
structure.,
and
this
is
indicated
as
lot
9,,
and
this
is
indicated
as
lot
9,,
and
then
this
is
lot
b,
and
this
and
then
this
is
lot
b,,
and
this
will
be
the
last
request.
That
will
be
the
last
request
that
you
see
this
evening..
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
Referred
to
on
the
pd
plan.,
there
is
a
contributing
there
is
a
contributing
structure,
here.,
structure
here..
This
is
the
second
review
that
this
is
the
second
review
that
you'll
look
at
tonight.
you'll.
Look
at
tonight..
There
is
an
addition
to
the.
There
is
an
addition
to
the
contributing
structure.
contributing
structure..
The
first
review
is
this
parcel?
E
Right
here,,
which
is
shaded.,
it
does
interface
with
the
it
does
interface
with
the
crosstown.
crosstown..
Once
again,
you
have
bristol
to
once,
again,
you
have
bristol
to
the
south
and
then
an
alley
that
the
south
and
then
an
alley
that
will
feed
into
these
parcels
and
will
feed
into
these
parcels
and
then
fremont
to
the
east
of
then
fremont
to
the
east
of
that..
E
E
Is
indicated
with
the
red
perforated
line.
perforated
line.,
that
is
the
local
district.,
that
is
the
local
district..
This
is
hyde
park
village
as
a
this
is
hyde
park
village.
As
a
reference
point.
reference
point.,
you
have
the
crosstown
to
the
you,
have
the
crosstown
to
the
west
and
to
the
north.
E
E
E
E
E
with
the
presenter
this
evening.
mr.
acosta
will
once
again
show
mr.
acosta
will
once
again
show
you
that
the
pd
plan,
show
you
you
that
the
pd
plan,
show
you
the
site
plan
and
then
the
site
plan
and
then,
throughout
his
presentation,
get
throughout
his
presentation.
Get
you
oriented.,
you
oriented.
it's
kind
of
difficult,
sometimes
it's
kind
of
difficult,
sometimes
to
know
exactly
where
you're
at.
G
G
myself
and
my
family.
my
profession
is
I'm
a
tax.
My
profession
is
I'm
a
tax
lawyer
and
I
practice
law
here
lawyer
and
I
practice
law
here
in
town.
in
town.
however,,
I've
grown
up
with
however,
I've
grown
up
with
architecture
in
my
life.
architecture.
In
my
life.,
my
dad,
del
acosta
has
done
a
my
dad,
del
acosta
has
done
a
lot
of
work
in
the
historic
lot
of
work
in
the
historic
preservation
community
here
in.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
1905
west,
bristol
avenue.
here's
a
picture
of
this
home.
here's
a
picture
of
this
home.
we
restored
it
in
2000.,
we
restored
it
in
2000..
I
will
speak
more
about
it
later.
I
will
speak
more
about
it
later.
This
evening.
this
evening..
You
can
also
see
the
care
that
you
can
also
see
the
care
that
we
take
in
maintaining
the.
G
G
G
G
G
The
property.
we
are
extremely
fortunate
to
we
are
extremely
fortunate
to
have
such
a
nice
group
of
have
such
a
nice
group
of
advisors
that
have
helped
us
advisors
that
have
helped
us
with
this
project..
With
this
project.
I'd
like
to
thank
ken
garcia,
I'd
like
to
thank
ken
garcia,,
our
architect,,
who
is
with
us
our
architect,,
who
is
with
us
this
evening,
of
able
garcia.
G
This
evening,
of
able
garcia
architecture.
architecture.
he
has
significant
and
he
has
significant
and
meaningful
experience
as
an
meaningful
experience
as
an
architect,
in
particular
in
architect,,
in
particular,
in
historic
preservation.
Space.
historic
preservation,
space.
he's
served
on
the
barrio
latino
he's
served
on
the
barrio.
Latino.
Commission..
G
G
Dad,
irene
and
del
acosta,
who
have
contributed
significantly,
have
contributed
significantly
to
this
project
and
have
added
a
to
this
project
and
have
added
a
lot
of
input.
lot
of
input..
I'd
like
to
thank
our
builder,
I'd
like
to
thank
our
builder,
david
ferrill,,
who
has
given
us
david
ferrill,,
who
has
given
us
numerous
ideas,
as
well
as
civil,
numerous
ideas,,
as
well
as
civil
engineers,,
matt,
campo
and
jesse
engineers,,
matt,
campo
and
jesse
black
stock,
who
have
helped
us
black
stock,
who
have
helped
us
with
alleyways,
drainage
and
with
alleyways,
drainage
and
other
utilities.
G
G
I
would
also
like
to
thank
arc
staff
who
have
provided
a
lot
of
staff
who
have
provided
a
lot
of
meaningful
input
on
this
meaningful
input
on
this
process,,
and
I
believe
that
all
process,
and
I
believe
that
all
those
contributions
have
those
contributions,
have
improved
the
quality
of
the
improved,
the
quality
of
the
project
that
we
are
going
to
project
that
we
are
going
to
present.
This
evening.
G
G
G
Location.
now,
some
may
consider
this
a
now,.
Some
may
consider
this
a
marginal
piece
of
property.
marginal
piece
of
property..
It
is
in
the
hyde
park,
historic,
it
is
in
the
hyde
park,
historic
district,,
and
we
believe
that
we
district,
and
we
believe
that
we
can
bring
it
to
a
useful
and
can
bring
it
to
a
useful
and
viable
state
through
this.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
As
part
of
this,,
we
went
through
a
zoning
review
to
confirm
that
a
zoning
review
to
confirm
that
our
architectural
site
plan
is
our
architectural
site
plan
is
in
line
with
the
pd.
in
line
with
the
pd..
Here
is
the
letter
from
zoning
here
is
the
letter
from
zoning,
noting
that
this
review
is
noting
that
this
review
is
consistent,,
that
the
consistent,
that
the
architectural
site
plan
is
architectural
site
plan
is
consistent
with
the
pd.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
own
lot
b.
my
parents
also
own
this.
My
parents
also
own
this
property
at
1907,
west,
bristol
property
at
1907,
west,
bristol,
avenue.,
avenue.,
very
specific,
site,,
very,
very
specific
site,,
very
specific
design.,
specific
design.
again,.
You
have
to
considerate
again,.
You
have
to
considerate
crosstown.
crosstown..
You
have
to
consider
lot
b
to.
G
G
G
Crosstown
expressway.,
we
spent
a
good
bit
of
time.
We
spent
a
good
bit
of
time
developing
the
style
of
this
developing
the
style
of
this
home.
home.,
the
architectural
style
that
we,
the
architectural
style
that
we
were
going
for.
were
going
for..
We
were
inspired
by
the
we
were
inspired
by
the
mediterranean
revival,
style
in
mediterranean
revival,
style
in
the
spanish
eclectic,
substyle.
G
G
We
then
saw
an
inspiration
from
the
field
guide
to
american
the
field
guide
to
american
homes
and
looked
at
the
spanish
homes
and
looked
at
the
spanish
eclectic
subdivision
and
found
eclectic
subdivision
and
found
several
properties
that
had
several
properties
that
had
elements
that
we
were
attempting
elements
that
we
were
attempting
to
incorporate
into
this
design,
to
incorporate
into
this
design,,
including
a
minimal
roof,
including
a
minimal
roof.
Overhang,
a
asymmetrical
facade,
overhang,,
a
asymmetrical
facade,
use
of
stucco,,
a
low
pitch
hip.
G
Use
of
stucco,
a
low
pitch
hip,
roof,,
ironwork,,
enclosed
roof,,
ironwork,,
enclosed
courtyard
and
barrel
tile,
--
a
courtyard
and
barrel
tile,
--
a
barrel
tile,
roof.
barrel,
tile
roof..
This
is
a
common,.
As
I
mentioned,
this
is
a
common,.
As
I
mentioned
previously,.
This
is
a
common
previously,.
This
is
a
common
style
in
hyde
park.
Village.
G
G
G
G
G
use
of
90-degree
angles..
We
also
have
in
this
several.
We
also
have
in
this
several
instances
of
one
over
one
instances
of
one
over
one
windows,,
which
we're
proposing
windows,,
which
we're
proposing
on
our
design.
on
our
design.
here.
You'll
see
one
over
one
here,
you'll
see
one
over
one,
windows.
windows.
here,
you'll
see
some
one
over
here,
you'll
see
some
one
over
one
windows
as
well.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
Looking
for
as
much
buffer
as
we
can,
get.
can
get.,
we've
got
the
crosstown.,
we've
got
the
crosstown.,
we've
got
the
wall.,
we've
got
the
wall..
We've
got
some
landscaping
that
we've
got
some
landscaping
that
we
anticipate,,
but
this
garage,,
we
anticipate,,
but
this
garage,,
this
garage
structure,,
the
this
garage
structure,,
the
two-story
garage
structure,
will
two-story
garage
structure
will
also
provide
a
nice
buffer
to
also
provide
a
nice
buffer
to
the
primary
structure.
G
G
G
G
G
G
This
is
the
foyer
that
will
provide
access
from
the
garage
provide
access
from
the
garage
to
the
primary
structure.
to
the
primary
structure..
There's
a
nice
architectural
there's,
a
nice
architectural
detail,
here.
detail!
Here.!
You
can
see
that
this
wall,
you
can
see
that
this
wall
system
has
an
opening.
Slightly
system
has
an
opening
slightly
larger
on
the
west
elevation
larger
on
the
west
elevation
than
as
presented
on
the
east
than
as
presented
on
the
east
elevation.
elevation..
G
It
will
provide
some
depth
and
it
will
provide
some
depth
and
some
context
and
is
a
nice
some
context
and
is
a
nice
architectural
detail.,
architectural
detail.,
going
into
the
primary
going
into
the
primary
structure,.
You
will
see
that
structure,.
You
will
see
that
we're
proposing
three
windows
on
we're,
proposing
three
windows
on
the
second
floor,
two
windows
on
the
second
floor,
two
windows
on
the
first
floor.
G
G
G
G
Detail.
provides
a
little
bit
of
provides
a
little
bit
of
additional
detail
to
the
additional
detail
to
the
property.
property..
I
have
a
picture
of
it,
as
I
have
a
picture
of
it,
as
you'll
see
it,
on
the
house,
that
you'll
see
it,
on
the
house
that
my
parents
built.
my
parents
built..
It's
a
nice
feature
that
we
will
it's
a
nice
feature
that
we
will
present
in
a
little
bit
more
present
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
later
in
the
detail
later
in
the
presentation.
G
G
We've
got
some
nice
details
with
this
window.,
this
window.
again,,
just
the
contrast,
again,,
just
the
contrast,
smaller
window,
here.
smaller
window
here.,
the
west
--
smaller
opening,.
I,
the
west
--
smaller
opening,.
I
should
say.
should
say.
it's
not
a
window..
It's
not
a
window.
smaller
opening
here
from
the.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
E
E
With
the
overall
pe
plan.
staff
finding,,
the
petition
is
staff
finding,.
The
petition
is
consistent
with
the
hyde
park
consistent
with
the
hyde
park,
design,
guidelines.
design,
guidelines.
very
thorough
and
complete
very
thorough
and
complete
presentation.
presentation.
all
the
items
under
staff
report.
A
A
C
C
G
G
So
this
soffit
it
may
be
wood.
wood.,
it
may
be
wood
substitute.,
it
may
be
wood
substitute.,
but
given
its
location
on
the
but
given
its
location.
On
the
second
floor,
we
are
going
to
use
second
floor.
We
are
going
to
use
something
very
basic,,
very
something
very
basic,,
very
simple!
That's
going
to
wear!
Well
simple!
That's
going
to
wear
well
in
this
environment.
G
Appropriate
with
the
site.,
this
roof
structure
is
going
to
this
roof
structure
is
going
to
be
very
similar
to
the
house,
be
very
similar
to
the
house
located
at
1903
bristol,
which
located
at
1903
bristol,
which
has
--
you
can
see
how
modest
has
--
you
can
see
how
modest
this
overhang
is.
this
overhang
is..
So
this
is
not
going
to
be
a.
C
G
C
G
C
G
For
that
mechanical
equipment?,
yeah.
yeah.,
and
we
probably
would
go
ahead-
and
we
probably
would
go
ahead
and
do
that
anyway
with
and
do
that
anyway
with
landscaping.
landscaping..
So
we
would
certainly
consider
so.
We
would
certainly
consider
all
appropriate,
you
know,
all
appropriate,,
you
know,
landscaping,
so
that,
you
know,.
C
C
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
These
windows
are
a
touch
more
rectangular..
Rectangular.
also
note
that
we
have
a
little
also
note
that
we
have
a
little
lowe,
r
--,
especially
on
this
lowe,
r
--,
especially
on
this
west
elevation,.
We
have
some
west
elevation,.
We
have
some
differences.
differences..
We
have
two
windows
here,
one.
G
C
C
G
G
You
are
going
to
walk
from
the
garage
through
the
foyer
into
garage
through
the
foyer
into
the
primary
structure.,
the
primary
structure..
So
what
this
attempts
to
do
is
so
what
this
attempts
to
do
is
show
the
quote-unquote
phase
of
show
the
quote-unquote
phase
of
the
primary
structure,
and
you
the
primary
structure,,
and
you
will
see
the
foyer
outlined
here.
C
Will
see
the
foyer
outlined
here
in
this
presentation.
in
this
presentation.
amber
dickerson:
okay.
amber
dickerson:
okay.,
and
did
you
all
consider
any
and
did
you
all
consider
any
sort
of
any
other
facade
sort
of
any
other
facade
treatments?
Since
you
were
trying
treatments
since
you
were
trying
to
limit
some
of
those
windows,.
G
G
Amber
dickerson:
or
even
any
material
variation.
material
variation..
You
are
trying
to
keep
that
you
are
trying
to
keep
that
clean.
clean.
yes.,
yes.
and,,
you
know,
these
drawings
and,,
you
know,,
these
drawings,
obviously
don't
show,
obviously
don't
show
landscaping.
landscaping.
and
that's
why
I
wanted
to
just
and
that's
why
I
wanted
to
just
kind
of
give
you
a
little
bit
of
kind
of
give
you
a
little
bit
of
the
inspiration,,
the
vision
of
the
inspiration,,
the
vision
of
what
we
anticipate
this.
Looking.
C
G
B
I
see
the
gate
and
it's
again
a
stucco
wall.
stucco
wall.
correct.
correct.
correct.
correct.
okay.
okay..
So
then
you
would
walk
so
then
you
would
walk
essentially
around
the
garage
essentially
around
the
garage
and
through
the
larger
opening
and
through
the
larger
opening
into
the
foyer,
to
the
main,
into
the
foyer,
to
the
main
structure?
structure?
correct..
A
G
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
G
And
in
opening
up
some
space,
and
keeping
it
distant
from
the
and
keeping
it
distant
from
the
crosstown
and
having
the
right
crosstown
and
having
the
right
proportions
was
appropriate,
proportions
was
appropriate,.
This
is
where
we,
ultimately,
this
is
where
we
ultimately
landed
on
the
design
and
feel
landed
on
the
design
and
feel
that
it's
an
appropriate
use.
G
B
It
a
little
more
context
and
texture
and
I
think
it's
texture
and
I
think
it's
reasonable,
where
the
gate
ended
reasonable,
where
the
gate
ended.
Up.,
up.
and
one
of
my
fellow
and
one
of
my
fellow
commissioners
had
brought
up
commissioners
had
brought
up
window
awnings.
window
awnings..
I
think
that
there
were
elements.
B
B
Referenced
had
more
depth
that
I
think
may
have
been
gave
think
may
have
been
gave
entrance.
entrance.
again,.
I
would
ask
if
you
again,,
I
would
ask
if
you
considered
awnings
or
some
sort
considered
awnings
or
some
sort
of
treatment
to
the
window,
--
of
treatment
to
the
window,
--,
not
window
treatments,,
but
trim.
G
G
G
G
G
targeting
masonry
construction.
therefore,.
We
can
build
the
therefore,.
We
can
build
the
stairs
in
this
format
along
with
stairs
in
this
format,
along
with
the
other
--
with
the
other,
the
other
--,
with
the
other
elements.
elements.
so,
you
know,
awnings,,
perhaps
so,
you
know,
awnings,,
perhaps
would
make
sense
over
this
front.
G
Would
make
sense
over
this
front
door,,
but
perhaps
this
door,,
but
perhaps
this
inspiration
goes
a
step.
Further
inspiration
goes
a
step
further
and
has
a
foyer
that
you
would
and
has
a
foyer
that
you
would
enter
the
home
in,
and
it
has
enter
the
home
in,,
and
it
has
this
nice
architectural
detail,
this
nice
architectural
detail
with
this
opening.
G
G
G
D
G
D
D
D
D
G
G
Contrast
of
light
and
dark.
now,
there,,
I
have
learned
in
now,
there,.
I
have
learned
in
this
process,.
There
are
multiple
this
process,.
There
are
multiple
ways
that
you
can
do
these
false
ways
that
you
can
do
these
false
windows,,
including
finishing
it
windows,,
including
finishing
it,
with
stucco
and
scoring
it
to.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
It
is
in
this
wall
section.,
and
we
have
that
luxury
with
and
we
have
that
luxury
with
respect
to
the
masonry,
respect
to
the
masonry,
construction.
construction.
and
that's
what
we
intend
to
and
that's
what
we
intend
to
take
advantage.
Of.
take
advantage
of.
and
I
think
it
will
be,
and
I
think
it
will
be
appropriate,
and
I
think
it
will
appropriate,
and
I
think
it
will
look
nice
in
its
implementation.
A
G
A
Okay.
zachary
greco:
the
part
that
zachary
greco:
the
part
that
I
am
struggling
with
a
bit,
I
I
am
struggling
with
a
bit,.
I
understand
the
concept
is,,
you
understand
the
concept
is,
you
know,.
We
took
inspiration
from
know,.
We
took
inspiration
from
the
mediterranean
revival,
style,
the
mediterranean
revival,
style,
and
kind
of
adapted
it
and
trade
and
kind
of
adapted
it
and
trade
to
make
it
a
little
more.
A
A
However,,
I
think
there
are
small
pieces
and
small
details
in
this
pieces
and
small
details
in
this
mediterranean
revival
that
I
mediterranean
revival
that
I
think
should
be
looked
at
and
think
should
be
looked
at
and
should
be
taken
to
these
should
be
taken
to
these
buildings,
in
the
structure,
and
buildings,
in
the
structure,,
and
some
of
them
are
basically
what
some
of
them
are.
Basically,
what
make
up
that
style.
A
A
A
A
A
A
You
do
have
the
water
table
foundation,,
but
it
isn't
foundation,,
but
it
isn't
uncommon
to
see
one
or
two
uncommon
to
see
one
or
two
additional
bandings
to
come
up
additional
bandings
to
come
up
around
the
jamb
or
the
head
of
around
the
jamb
or
the
head
of
the
windows
or
second
floor
to
the
windows
or
second
floor.
To
kind
of
help
highlight
that,.
A
A
Point
where
it
looks
like
you
have,
unfortunately,
maybe
watered
have,
unfortunately,
maybe
watered
down
the
mediterranean
style
a
down
the
mediterranean
style
a
little
bit
too
much
to
a
more
little
bit
too
much
to
a
more
modern
portion.,
modern
portion..
Because
if
you
look
at
the
image,
because
if
you
look
at
the
image
on
the
bottom,,
you
will
see
the
on
the
bottom,,
you
will
see
the
brackets
along
the
roof.
brackets
along
the
roof..
You
will
see
some
of
the.
A
A
G
G
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
We
are
anticipating
that
will
be
grass
landscaped.
grass
landscaped.
zachary
greco:
okay.
zachary
greco:
okay.,
the
garage
door,,
what
material
the
garage
door,,
what
material
or
what
finish
is
that
garage
or
what
finish
is
that
garage
door
going
to
look
like?
door
going
to
look
like??
Is
it
just
a
typical
painted?
G
G
A
A
A
Details
that
are
coming
through,
is
on
that.
Connector
piece
is
on
that
connector
piece
between
the
garage
and
the
main
between
the
garage
and
the
main
house.
house..
So
you
have
the
banding
back
at
so
you
have
the
banding
back
at
the
bottom,.
You
have
the
opening
the
bottom,.
You
have
the
opening
for
that
outdoor
kind
of
covered
for
that
outdoor
kind
of
covered,
space,,
which
you
would
typically
space,,
which
you
would
typically
see,
sort
of
an
iron
work
piece,
see
sort
of
an
iron
work
piece
over
that.
G
G
G
A
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
I
certainly
hear
what
you
are
saying,
and
I
think
that
there
saying,
and
I
think
that
there
may
be
room
to
add
some
may
be
room
to
add
some
additional
details
here
and
additional
details
here
and
there.
there.
without,
you
know,,
making
without,
you
know,,
making
significant
changes
to
the
significant
changes
to
the
overall
presentation
or
the
overall
presentation
or
the
overall
design.
A
A
I
believe
these
are
different.
Homes.
homes.,
zachary,
greco:,
okay.,
zachary,
greco:
okay.,
and
then
I
completely
understand,
and
then
I
completely
understand
that
this
example
is
a
little
that
this
example
is
a
little
bit
more
minimummistic
version
bit
more
minimummistic
version
of
that
mediterranean
revival.
A
A
A
A
So
it
doesn't,
it
is
a
new
build,,
so
it
doesn't
need
to
have
everything
that
a
need
to
have
everything
that
a
historic
building,
copy
and
historic
building,
copy
and
match.
match..
That's
not
the
intention.,
that's
not
the
intention.,
but
there
are
little
things
that,
but
there
are
little
things
that
I
think
could
be
pulled
over
and.
B
A
G
G
G
G
G
It's
power
frankly,
for
my
parents
and
my
dad.
parents
and
my
dad.,
so
we
take
your
comments
from
so
we
take
your
comments
from
our
design
seriously,
and
we,
our
design
seriously,,
and
we
will,
you
know,,
continue
to
will,.
You
know,
continue
to
reflect
on
that
as
we
go
through
reflect
on
that
as
we
go
through
the
process
of.
Hopefully,.
A
The
process
of
hopefully
bringing
these
homes
to
bringing
these
homes
to
fruition.
fruition.,
so
thank
you.,
so
thank
you.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
zachary
greco:
thank
you..
At
this
point
we
will
be
closing
at
this
point.
We
will
be
closing
the
portion
of
the
public,
the
portion
of
the
public
hearing.
hearing..
The
commissioners
will
now.
D
D
D
D
D
Away
from
the
old
school
traditional
revive
to
a
more
traditional
revive
to
a
more
simplistic,
area.,
simplistic
area.,
you
keep
citing
your
parents'.
You
keep
citing
your
parents'
house.
house.
and
you
don't
have
top
go
very
and
you
don't
have
top
go
very
far
to
take
a
look
at
some
of
far
to
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
very,
very
small
little.
D
D
D
Particularly
grand
gestures.,
you
have
the
stair
f.anything,,
I
you
have
the
stair
f.anything,.
I
would
like
to
see
you
produce
would
like
to
see
you
produce
that
water
table
all
the
way
that
water
table
all
the
way
around.
That
includes
the
around
that
includes
the
accessories,
too,,
so
the
two
can
accessories,
too,,
so
the
two
can
tie
in
together.
D
D
B
B
C
C
elevations
for
me.
and
having,,
you
know,
it
and
having,
you
know,.
It
specifically
says
we
are
specifically
says
we
are
supposed
to
look
at
the
supposed
to
look
at
the
location,
proportion
of
windows,
location,
proportion
of
windows
and
their
relation
to
the
and
their
relation
to
the
overall
size
of
the
building.
overall
size
of
the
building..
So
I
think
that
could
use
some.
C
I
understand
that
orientation,,
but
people
are
going
to
be,
but
people
are
going
to
be
entering
the
home,
and
that's
entering
the
home,
and
that's
the
first
thing
that
they
are
the
first
thing
that
they
are
going
to
see.
going
to
see..
So
I
definitely
would
like
to
so.
I
definitely
would
like
to
see
some
more
detail.
C
C
A
I
appreciate
that.
zachary
greco:,
I
think
the
zachary
greco:,
I
think
the
overall
direction
is
going
in
a
overall
direction,
is
going
in
a
really
nice
place.,
really
nice
place..
I
think
with
all
of
these,
I
think,
with
all
of
these
dwellings
as
they
are
going
to
dwellings
as
they
are
going
to
be
sitting
on
this
site,.
It's
be
sitting
on
this
site,.
It's
going
to
be
a
really
nice
piece
going
to
be
a
really
nice
piece
of
land,
and
how
they
relate
of
land,
and
how
they
relate
back
to
each
other.
A
A
I
don't
think
you
have
to
do
on
all
four
elevations..
All
four
elevations.
think
I
strategically.
If
you
think
I
strategically,
if
you
take
certain
details
and
take
certain
details
and
incorporate
that
into
your
incorporate,
that
into
your
building,,
to
either
highlight
building,
to
either
highlight
certain
parts
or
to
kind
of
certain
parts,
or
to
kind
of
elaborate
and
kind
of
bring
elaborate
and
kind
of
bring
focus
to
maybe
an
all-day
--.
I.
A
A
E
A
Back
in
front
of
the
board
is
october
5,,
2020.
october
5,,
2020.,
zachary
greco:
and
then
for
zachary
greco:
and
then
for
the
applicant
and
the
agent,
you
the
applicant
and
the
agent,.
You
do
have
the
ability
for
us
to
do
have
the
ability
for
us
to
vote
today
either
for
or
vote
today,
either
for
or
against,,
and
that
is
your
right,
against,,
and
that
is
your
right,.
If
you
would
like
us
to.,
if
you
would
like
us
to.
A
G
G
G
G
G
If
not,,
I
completely
understand.
but
the
barrel,
tail,
the
but
the
barrel,
tail,
the
concrete,,
some
of
these
major
concrete,,
some
of
these
major
elements,,
I
think,
we
are
in
elements,,
I
think,.
We
are
in
agreement
that
are
in
place,
and
agreement
that
are
in
place,
and
some
of
the
finishes,
you
know,.
B
G
G
A
A
I
move
to
grant
a
continuance.
--
continuance,
--
zachary
greco:
hold
on
real
zachary
greco:
hold
on
real
quick.
quick..
At
this
point,
we'll
be
closing
at
this
point
we'll
be
closing
the
public
hearing
and
the
the
public
hearing
and
the
commissioners
will
now
discuss.
Commissioners
will
now
discuss
the
case
or
make
a
motion.
A
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
D
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
G
G
G
I
presented
the
prior
case
and
I
spent
some
time
introducing
spent
some
time
introducing
myself
and
the
history
with
the
myself
and
the
history
with
the
property
and
my
family.
property
and
my
family.
for
the
record,
I'd
like
to
for
the
record,
I'd
like
to
repeat
that.
Briefly.
repeat
that
briefly.
I
purchased
the
property
in
the.
G
G
A
historic
home
--:
this
is
a
historic
home
located
on
lot,
9.
historic
home,
located
on
lot
9.
we're
proposing
an
addition,
we're
proposing
an
addition
to
--
we're
proposing
a
to
--,
we're
proposing
a
rehabilitation
and
addition
to
rehabilitation
and
addition
to
this
structure.,
this
structure.,
so
a
little
bit
of
history,
when
so
a
little
bit
of
history,.
When
I
purchased
the
home
in
2000,
it
I
purchased
the
home
in
2000,,
it
was
in
very
rough.
Shape.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
I
spoke
previously
about
our
advisors.
advisors..
I
won't
go
through
that
again.
I
won't
go
through
that
again,
but
just
for
purposes
of
the,
but
just
for
purposes
of
the
record,.
Our
design
team
includes
record,.
Our
design
team
includes
our
architect
ken
garcia,
who
has
our
architect
ken
garcia,
who
has
significant
experience
in
significant
experience
in
architectural
preservation.,
architectural
preservation.
also,,
my
father,
del
acosta.
G
G
G
G
G
G
I
would
like
to
call
out
some
dimensions.
dimensions.,
the
property
line
to
the
the
property
line
to
the
beginning
of
the
addition.
beginning
of
the
addition..
That's
46,
feet,
6
inches.,
that's
46,
feet,
6
inches.,
the
property
line
to
this.
The
property
line
to
this
portion
of
the
addition,
which
is.
G
G
There
is
the
least
possible
loss
of
historic
materials
and
so
of
historic
materials,
and
so
that
the
character-defining
that
the
character-defining
features
are
not
obscured,
features,
are
not
obscured,
damaged
or
destroyed,
locating
damaged
or
destroyed.
Locating
the
attached
exterior
addition,
the
attached,
exterior
addition
at
the
rear
or
on
an
at
the
rear,
or
on
an
inconspicuous
side
of
a
historic,
inconspicuous
side
of
a
historic
building,.
Designing
new
building,
designing
new
additions
in
a
manner
that
makes
additions
in
a
manner
that
makes
clear
what
is
historic
and
what
clear
what
is
historic
and
what
a
new.
G
G
G
G
G
G
To
give
some
context
with
some
dimensions,,
this
is
dimensions,.
This
is
approximately
eight
feet,,
eight,
approximately
eight
feet,
eight
inches.
inches..
This
space
is
eight
feet,.
Six,
this
space
is
eight
feet,,
six
inches.
inches..
This
is
12
feet..
This
is
12
feet..
The
hyphen
itself
is
just
under
the
hyphen
itself
is
just
under
three
feet.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
This
is
a
courtyard
space.,
fixed
panes
of
glass,,
an
fixed
panes
of
glass,,
an
operable
door.,
operable
door..
This
is
further
recessed
from
this
is
further
recessed
from
this
portion
of
the
primary
this
portion
of
the
primary
home.
home..
You
see
the
roofs.,
you
see
the
roofs.
excuse,
me.
the
windows.,
you
see,
excuse
me.
the
windows.,
you
see
the
roof.,
the
roof.,
you
see
the
windows.,
you
see
the
windows.,
you
see
the
rooftop
terrace.,
you
see
the
rooftop
terrace.
an
important
design
element
and.
G
G
G
G
G
G
As
well
as
the
north
elevation.,
this
is
a
floor
plan
that
we,
this
is
a
floor
plan
that
we
have
shown
that
provides
some
have
shown
that
provides
some
additional
information
on
the
additional
information
on
the
hyphen.
hyphen..
We
already
went
through
that..
We
already
went
through
that.
I'd
like
to
walk
us
through
some.
G
This
is
the
roof
that
we're
proposing.
proposing.,
a
standing,
seam
metal,
roof.,
a
standing,
seam
metal
roof..
When
I
purchased
the
home
in
when
I
purchased
the
home
in
2000,,
it
had
an
asphalt,
shingle
2000,.
It
had
an
asphalt,
shingle,
roof.
roof.,
we
evaluated
what
was
the
we
evaluated.
What
was
the
appropriate
and
best
roofling
appropriate
and
best
roofling
material?
We
could
put
on.
G
We
put
on
a
(inaudible)
crump
roof
that
functionled
well.
roof
that
functionled
well..
It
was
difficult
to
maintain
at.
It
was
difficult
to
maintain
at
the
time,
but
I'm
glad
we
did.
the
time,
but
I'm
glad
we
did.
in
discussions
with
our
team
and
in
discussions
with
our
team
and
builder,,
we
said,
what
is
builder,,
we
said,.
What
is
something
that's
going
to
last
something
that's
going
to
last
and
what
is
the
best
roofing
and
what
is
the
best
roofing
technology?
We
could
implement.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
Siding.
you'll
notice,
some
of
the
you'll
notice,
some
of
the
details
on
the
new
construction
details
on
the
new
construction
are
simpler
than
the
historic
are
simpler
than
the
historic
structure.
structure..
The
historic
structure
has
the
historic
structure
has
larger
rafters.,
larger
rafters.
we
intentionally
are
not.
G
G
We
intentionally
are
using
one
over
one
windows.
over
one
windows..
When
you
look
at
this
home,
we,
when
you
look
at
this
home,,
we
want
you
to
clearly
be
able
to
want
you
to
clearly
be
able
to
tell
whether
you're
an
architect
tell
whether
you're
an
architect
or
--,
an
architectural
historian
or
--
an
architectural
historian
or
come
from
a
different
or
come
from
a
different
background.
What
is
clearly
old
background?
What
is
clearly
old
and
what
is
clearly
new.
G
G
G
G
This
is
a
very
important
home
for
our
family.
for
our
family..
We
want
to
respect
the
historic
we
want
to
respect
the
historic
property
and
also
create
an
property
and
also
create
an
addition
which
allows
the
home
addition,
which
allows
the
home
to
be
viable
for
our
current
to
be
viable
for
our
current
family
for
today
and
many
years
family
for
today
and
many
years
to
come.
to
come..
We
greatly
appreciate
the
many.
A
A
E
Does
that
conclude
your
presentation?
presentation?
yes.
yes.
zachary
greco:
at
this
point,
zachary
greco:?
At
this
point
staff
will
present
the
staff
staff
will
present
the
staff
report.
report.
ron,
vila:
good
evening,
ron,
vila:
good
evening,
commissioners.
commissioners.
ron,
vila,
staff
with
historic.
E
E
And
the
p.
d.
that
was
approved
in
2015.
in
2015.,
moving
to
the
secretary
of
moving
to
the
secretary
of
interior
standards,,
it's
a
interior
standards,,
it's
a
publication
that
we
use
if
we
publication
that
we
use.
If
we
can
go
to
the
overhead
for
a
can,
go
to
the
overhead
for
a
minute.
minute..
I
believe
everybody
is
familiar.
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
A
Foundation
and
enclosure
and
as
you
move
to
the
addition,
to
you,
move
to
the
addition,
to
define
what
material
that
is.
define
what
material
that
is.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.,
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
at
this
point.
We'll
open
the
at
this
point,
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
to
any
public
public
hearing
to
any
public
comment.
If
anyone
would
like
to
comment,
if
anyone
would
like
to
speak.
speak.
all
right.
all
right.
seeing
and
hearing
none,
the.
D
D
I
understand
your
point
of
differentiation,,
but
there
is
differentiation,,
but
there
is
still
a
good
number
of
still
a
good
number
of
similarities
between
the
two
similarities
between
the
two
which
I'd
find
where,
if
they
which
I'd
find
where,
if
they
were
significant,
deviations
were
significant
deviations
between
one
and
the
other
it
between
one
and
the
other.
It
would
be.
Jarring.
D
G
G
D
D
Let's
say,
a
five-inch
exposure..
Will
your
addition?
will
your
addition?
jolyon
acosta:,
not
jolyon
acosta:,
not
necessarily.,
necessarily.,
stephen
sutton:.
There
are
stephen
sutton:.
There
are
certain
elements
of
trim
on
the
certain
elements
of
trim
on
the
existing
building,,
particularly
existing
building,,
particularly,
I
believe,
if
the
photographs
are,
I
believe,
if
the
photographs
are
correct,
building
corners
and
correct
building
corners
and
around
windows
and
doors.
G
G
D
D
D
G
D
A
B
B
C
G
G
G
G
G
B
G
A
A
Be
supported
on
those
--.
Let
me
ask
my
question:
differently.
ask
my
question:
differently.
on
the
image
here,
you
see
on
the
image
here,,
you
see
almost
the
angled
structural,
almost
the
angled
structural
member,
that
comes
back
from
the
member
that
comes
back
from
the
landing
to
the
house.
landing
to
the
house..
Do
you
know
at
this
point?
G
C
C
C
G
C
C
C
C
G
G
C
G
G
Look
at
these
windows,,
you
know,,
taking
inspiration
from
the
taking
inspiration
from
the
historic
structure.,
historic
structure..
Look
at
this
smaller
window.
Look
at
this
smaller
window,
taking
inspiration
from
the
taking
inspiration
from
the
historic
structure.,
historic
structure..
We
certainly
don't
want
to
copy.
G
G
G
G
G
G
We
want
a
nice
clean,
simple
addition
that
celebrates
some
of
addition
that
celebrates
some
of
the
elements
of
this
home.
But
the
elements
of
this
home,
but
does
not
intend
to
copy
them.,
does
not
intend
to
copy
them..
That's
why,
for
example,
the
that's
why,
for
example,
the
windows,
we're
doing
one
over
windows,
we're
doing
one
over
one.
one.
the
foundation
towards
the
the
foundation
towards
the
bottom,,
we're
doing
masonry
bottom,
we're
doing
masonry
instead
of
wood.
instead
of
wood..
That's
why
we're
not
attempting
that's?
G
G
The
architecture
of
today,
which
from,
you
know,
as
I
have
grown
from,
you
know,,
as
I
have
grown,
to
appreciate
with
the
hyphen
to
appreciate
with
the
hyphen
and
with
the
elements
that
we're
and
with
the
elements
that
we're,
including
and
maybe
perhaps
more
including,
and
maybe
perhaps
more
importantly,
the
elements
that
we
importantly
the
elements
that
we
are
not
including
brings.
This.
G
G
Of
this
home,
when
we
started.
and,
you
know,,
we
took
some
and,,
you
know,.
We
took
some
counsel
from
our
design,
team,
counsel,
from
our
design,
team,
from
arc
staff
and
what
you
have
from
arc
staff,
and
what
you
have
is
a
direction
that
takes.
It
is
a
direction
that
takes
it
more
towards
the
craftsman.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
B
G
G
Subordinate
to
the
historic
structure.
structure.,
are
you
replacing
the
windows?
Are
you
replacing
the
windows
on
the
existing
structure?
on
the
existing
structure?
jolyon
acosta:,
you
know,,
I
jolyon
acosta:,
you
know,.
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
those
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
those
windows
in
2000.
windows
in
2000..
I
hope
they're
good
to
go.,
I
hope
they're
good
to
go..
I
mean,.
I
guess
we'll
see
what
I
mean,.
I
guess
we'll
see
what
my
builder
says.
G
G
Our
ability.,
so
will
there
still
be
a
six,
so
will
there
still
be
a
six
over
one
window
on
the
existing
over
one
window
on
the
existing
structure?
structure?
jolyon
acosta:
on
the
existing
jolyon
acosta:
on
the
existing
structure?
structure?
yes,,
I
can't
see
us
moving
away
yes,.
I
can't
see
us
moving
away
from
that.
A
A
A
A
Where,
again,
going
back
--,
I'm
again
struggling
with
the
idea
again
struggling
with
the
idea
that
by
no
means
do
you
need
to
that.
By
no
means
do
you
need
to
copy
an
existing
building.
copy,
an
existing
building.?
That
is
not
what
the
intention
that
is
not
what
the
intention
is.
For.
is
for..
That's
not
what
the
guidelines!
A
A
A
Reference
state
that
it
should
be
different,,
but
I
think
there
be
different,,
but
I
think
there
is
a
point
to
where
the
way
I
is
a
point
to
where
the
way
I
interpret
that
is,
it's
not
to
interpret
that
is
it's
not
to
match.
Exactly.
match
exactly..
So
there
are
things
that
can
be
so
there
are
things
that
can
be
different,
for
example,
instead
different,
for
example,.
Instead
of
a
wood
siding,,
you
can
use
a.
A
Of
a
wood
siding,,
you
can
use
a
hardy
board
material
because
hardy
board
material,
because
it's
something
newer.,
it's
something
newer..
If
it's
a
solid
wood,
window,
you,
if
it's
a
solid
wood
window,
you
can
use
a
wood-clad
aluminum
can
use
a
wood-clad
aluminum,
window.
window.,
something
that
appears
similar,
something
that
appears
similar
but
is
not
exactly
the
same.
A
A
Things
that
are
different,,
it
really
starts
to
stand
out.
As,
really
starts
to
stand
out.
As,
here
is
the
original
one,
and
here
is
the
original
one,
and
it's
drastically
different
of
it's
drastically
different
of
what
the
new
one
is.,
what
the
new
one
is..
So
for
me,,
that's
a
bit
so
for
me,,
that's
a
bit
concerning
for,,
you
know,,
the
concerning
for,,
you
know,,
the
additional
other
commissioners,
additional
other
commissioners,.
That
might
not
be
a
concern.
D
B
A
A
I
want
to
commend
you
on
that
point.
point.
yes,
I
agree.
yes,,
I
agree.
zachary
greco:.
I
think
that
zachary
greco:,
I
think
that
separation
because,
you
know,
separation,
because,,
you
know,.
One
of
the
things
we
look
at
is
one
of
the
things
we
look
at
is
if
this
part
were
ever
to
be,
if
this
part
were
ever
to
be
removed,,
that's
a
nice
clean
cut,
removed,!
That's
a
nice
clean
cut
of
how
to
remove
that
and
leave
of
how
to
remove
that
and
leave
that
existing
house
as
is.
A
A
You
don't
need
the
exposed,
rafters.
rafters.
everything
pulled
over,,
but
I
everything
pulled
over,,
but
I
think
there
are
some
of
those
think
there
are
some
of
those
details
that
get
pulled.
Over,
details
that
get
pulled
over,,
you
know,,
maybe
one
or
two
of
you
know,,
maybe
one
or
two
of
those
that
help
tie
it.
Together,.
A
A
A
A
A
Start
breaking
up
some
of
those
elevations.
elevations.
the,,
you
know,
the
window,
the,
you
know,
the
window,
placements,,
I
think
as
long
as
placements,.
I
think,
as
long
as
it's
understood
and
clear
that
it's
understood
and
clear
that
if
the
six
over
one
windows
are
if
the
six
over
one
windows
are
the
existing
windows,
which
it
the
existing
windows
which
it
sounds
like
it
is
with
the.
A
G
A
A
A
Want
to
make
sure
it's,
you
know,
just
--.
I
think
there
is
know,
just
--.
I
think
there
is
that
very
fine
line
of
matching
that
very
fine
line
of
matching
versus
completely
different,
and
versus
completely
different,,
and
because
we
are
in
that
historic,,
because
we
are
in
that
historic,
you
know,
district,,
it's
kind
of
you
know,
district,,
it's
kind
of
how
do
we
pay
tribute
that.
A
How
do
we
pay
tribute
that
structure
without
completely
structure
without
completely
pushing
it
aside
one
way
or
the
pushing
it
aside
one
way
or
the
other.
other.
I'd
like
to
see
some
of
the
I'd
like
to
see
some
of
the
details
pulled
in,
but
by
no
details
pulled
in,
but
by
no
means
you
don't
need
all
details
means
you
don't
need
all
details
or
to
match
it.
One
to
one.
A
G
Allowed
five
minutes
for
a
reb
reb
rebuttal.
rebuttal.
jolyon
acosta:
thank
you.
jolyon
acosta:
thank
you..
I
greatly
appreciate
those.
I
greatly
appreciate
those
comments.
comments..
I
want
to
just
stress
the
I
want
to
just
stress
the
importance
of
differentiating
importance
of
differentiating
this
building..
This
building.,
where
we
started,
there
were
where
we
started,
there
were
more
differences
and
we've
come
more
differences
and
we've
come
closer
to
historic,
structure.,
closer
to
historic,
structure..
I'm
very
concerned
that
we're
I'm
very
concerned
that
we're
going
to
go
outside
of
our
going
to
go
outside
of
our
standards.
G
G
Guidelines
and
the
hyde
park,
design,
guidelines.
design,
guidelines.
page
156
of
the
secretary
of
page
156
of
the
secretary
of
interior,
guidelines:
interior
guidelines:,
constructing
a
new
addition,
so
constructing
a
new
addition,
so
that
there
is
the
least
possible
that
there
is
the
least
possible
loss
of
historic
materials
and
loss
of
historic
materials,
and
so
that
character-defining,
so
that
character-defining
features
are
not
obstructed,
features,
are
not
obstructed,,
damaged
or
destroyed,
or
damaged
or
destroyed,
or
retaining
three
of
the
original
retaining
three
of
the
original
walls.
walls..
We're
not
touching
those
at
all.
G
we're
not
touching
those
at
all.
incorporating
a
simple
recess,
incorporating
a
simple
recess,
small
scale,
hyphen
or
connection
small
scale,
hyphen
or
connection
to
physically
and
visually
to
physically
and
visually
separate.
The
addition
from
the
separate
the
addition
from
the
historic
building.,
historic
building.,
page
156.,
page
156.,
that's
--!
This
is
a
textbook,
that's
--!
This
is
a
textbook
addition.
addition.
that
is
expensive,
real
estate.
G
that
is
expensive,
real
estate.,
it's
an
expensive
solution,,
but
it's
an
expensive
solution,,
but
it's
the
right
solution,
and
it's
the
right
solution,
and
that's
what
we're
doing
to
that's.
What
we're
doing
to
clearly
differentiate
the
old
clearly
differentiate,
the
old
from
the
new.
from
the
new.
page
162.
G
page
162.,
designing
new
construction
on
a
designing
new
construction
on
a
historic
site
or
setting
that
is
historic
site
or
setting
that
is
compatible
but
differentiated,
compatible
but
differentiated
from
the
historic
building
or
from
the
historic
building
or
buildings.
buildings..
We
do
not
want
to
copy..
G
G
stands
on
its
own.
shifting
to
the
hyde
park,
design
shifting
to
the
hyde
park,
design,
guidelines.,
guidelines.
alterations
and
additions
may
be
alterations
and
additions
may
be
of
compatible
contemporary
of
compatible
contemporary
design
and
should
be
carried
out
design
and
should
be
carried
out
in
such
a
manner
that
any
future
in
such
a
manner
that
any
future
decision
to
remove
them
would
decision
to
remove
them
would
not
impair
the
integrity
of
the
not
impair
the
integrity
of
the
property.
property..
The
way
we're
going
behind
this.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
So
those
are
my
comments..
I
really
appreciate,
you
know,.
I
really
appreciate,
you
know,
everyone's
time
and
everyone's
everyone's
time
and
everyone's
comments.
comments..
With
respect
to
the
staff's.
With
respect
to
the
staff's
comments,,
we
addressed
the
comments,,
we
addressed
the
awnings.
awnings.,
we
addressed
stairs,
and
we
we
addressed
stairs,
and
we
addressed
the
masonry
towards
addressed
the
masonry
towards
the
bottom.,
the
bottom.
I
just
want
to
hit
on
this
one.
G
G
G
G
A
D
D
Building,
we
have
the
roof,,
the
trim,
appropriately
scaled
trim,
appropriately
scaled
windows,
whether
you
like
the
windows,
whether
you
like
the
exact
placement,
is
another
exact
placement
is
another
matter,,
but
it
follows
through
matter,,
but
it
follows
through
with
the
scale
of
the
existing
with
the
scale
of
the
existing
building.
building..
We
have
the
metal
roofing.
D
C
I
--,
I
think,
you
know,.
My
fellow
commissioners
were
not
in
fellow
commissioners,
were
not
in
the
business
to
be
matchy
the
business
to
be
matchy,
matchy.
matchy.,
we
don't
want
that,
and
that
we
don't
want
that,,
and
that
would
look
terrible
on
this
would
look
terrible
on
this
addition.
If
you
went
all
the
addition,
if
you
went
all
the
matching.
matching.,
I
do
have
fundamental
issues.
C
C
C
C
C
C
B
I
think
that
we
referenced
the
standards
many
times
tonight,
standards,
many
times
tonight,
and
we
all
agree
we're
not,
and
we
all
agree
we're
not
trying
to
duplicate
your
trying
to
duplicate
your
existing
700-foot
cottage
on
existing
700-foot
cottage
on
your
new
addition.,
your
new
addition.
however,,
the
standards
state
however,.
The
standards
state
that
using
the
same
forms,.
B
That
using
the
same
forms,,
materials,
scale,,
it's
important,
materials,
scale,
it's
important
and
doesn't
duplicate
but
and
doesn't
duplicate
but
distinguishes
meaning
there
is
distinguishes
meaning.
There
is
anode
to
the
past.
anode
to
the
past.
we
talked
in
the
beginning
about
we
talked
in
the
beginning
about
the
details
of
your
existing
the
details
of
your
existing
windows.
windows.,
the
window
screens,,
the
awnings,.
B
The
window
screens,
the
awnings,
overhangs
and
out
rigors,
overhangs
and
out
rigors,
soffits.
soffits..
All
of
the
details
that
are
in
all
of
the
details
that
are
in
your
existing
cottage.,
your
existing
cottage.,
none
of
those
are
brought
to
the
none
of
those
are
brought
to
the
new
home.
new
home..
So
nobody
is
suggesting
that
we.
B
B
A
A
This
project
is
going
is
great..
I
think
you
almost
have
the
way.
I
think
you
almost
have
the
way
you've
kind
of
designed.
This
is
you've
kind
of
designed.
This
is
this
little
jewel
that
sits
in
this
little
jewel
that
sits
in
the
front,
and
everything
else
is
the
front,
and
everything
else
is
pulled.
Back.
pulled
back.
you're,
trying
to
touch
it
with
you're
trying
to
touch
it
with
the
least
amount
of
new
the
least
amount
of
new
construction
as
possible
to
construction
as
possible
to
where,
theoretically,
in
the.
A
A
I
think
respects
that
fundamentally
perfectly.
fundamentally
perfectly.
like
I've
mentioned,,
I
don't
like
I've
mentioned,.
I
don't
think
you
need
to
copy
it
by
any
think.
You
need
to
copy
it
by
any
means.
means..
I
don't
think
you
need
to
pull.
I
don't
think
you
need
to
pull
in
the
knee
brackets.
in
the
knee
brackets..
I
don't
think
you
need
to
pull.
A
A
You're
heading,,
I
can
see
the
way
you
made
your
presentation
way.
You
made
your
presentation
and
some
of
the
details
that
you
and
some
of
the
details
that
you
have,
you
know,
one
of
the
have,
you
know,.
One
of
the
things
that
we
look
at
is
things
that
we
look
at
is
maintaining
quality
within
the
maintaining
quality
within
the
district.
district..
I
think
this
house
is
going
to.
A
I
think
this
house
is
going
to
have
that.,
have
that.,
seeing
what
you
did
to
the
seeing
what
you
did
to
the
original
house
in
2000
when
you
original
house
in
2000,
when
you
bought
it
and
how
you
changed,
bought
it
and
how
you
changed
it,.
It
clearly
seems
like
that
it,.
It
clearly
seems
like
that
quality
and
that
portion
of
that.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Personally,
if
it's
for
us
again
or
for
staff,,
either
one,
that
or
for
staff,,
either
one,,
that
some
of
the
details
that
are
some
of
the
details
that
are
in
--,
some
of
the
character
in
--,
some
of
the
character
taken
into
the
main
house,
get
taken
into
the
main
house,
get
pulled
back
in
to
the
new
pulled
back
in
to
the
new
addition.
So
thinking
back
of
how
addition
so
thinking
back
of
how
you
said,
you
know,,
you
spent
you
said,,
you
know,!
A
A
So
I
know
from
sort
of
the
list
list
listening,,
I
think
it's
moving
listening,.
I
think
it's
moving
in
the
right
direction,
and
I
in
the
right
direction,
and
I
think
the
majority
of
the
stuff
think
the
majority
of
the
stuff.
Besides
maybe
the
stair,
a
lot
besides,
maybe
the
stair,
a
lot
of
it,
you
know,
staff
could
be.
A
A
A
B
B
9,
with
the
following
conditions.
conditions.,
that
the
mechanical
equipment
is
that
the
mechanical
equipment
is
screened.,
screened.
that
the
six
over
one
windows
that
the
six
over
one
windows
are
maintained
on
the
existing
are
maintained
on
the
existing
structure.
structure.
that
the
existing
structure.
B
That
the
existing
structure
maintains
a
period
appropriate,
maintains
a
period
appropriate
roofing,
material.
roofing
material.
that
the
stair
and
railing
that
the
stair
and
railing
specification
is
approved
by
specification
is
approved
by
staff
as
well
as
the
masonry
staff,
as
well
as
the
masonry
post
and
railings
are
brought
to
post
and
railings
are
brought
to
staff
because
based
upon
the
staff,
because,
based
upon
the
finding
of
fact,,
the
proposed.
B
B
G
A
A
A
A
E
E
E
There
is
a
primary,
non-contributing
structure
to
non-contributing
structure,
to
the
front
of
this.
the
front
of
this.
that
is
not
associated
with
the
that
is
not
associated
with
the
p.d.
p.d..
As
you
go
into
the
parcel
to
the
as
you
go
into
the
parcel
to
the
north,,
it
encompasses
this
north,.
It
encompasses
this
rectangle
here.,
rectangle
here.,
it's
just
off
the
alley.,
it's
just
off
the
alley..
As
I
mentioned
earlier,,
it
runs.
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
G
G
G
G
G
G
Their
many
contributions
to
this
project.
project..
Looking
at
the
aerial,,
which
looking
at
the
aerial,,
which
you'll
find
is
this
abuts
the
you'll
find?
Is
this
abuts
the
crosstown
expressway.
crosstown
expressway.?
You
can
not
properly
evaluate
you,
can
not
properly
evaluate
this
site
without
appreciating
this
site.
Without
appreciating
the
impact
of
the
crosstown.,
the
impact
of
the
crosstown.,
you
can
see
on
this
aerial
how
you
can
see
on
this
aerial
how
the
crosstown
expressway
is.
G
G
G
Have
a
letter
here
from
zoning
confirming
the
architectural
confirming
the
architectural
site
plan
is
consistent
with
the
site
plan
is
consistent
with
the
p.
d.
p.
d.
as
we
discussed
previously
this,
as
we
discussed
previously,
this
evening,,
the
first
five
design
evening,,
the
first
five
design
criteria
have
already
been
criteria,
have
already
been
established
with
respect
to
this
established
with
respect
to
this
property
pursuant
to
the
p.d.
G
G
G
G
G
House
will
be
accessed
from
this
public
alley.
public
alley.,
so
the
resident
will
go
north
on
so
the
resident
will
go
north
on
the
public
alley
and
enter
the
the
public
alley
and
enter
the
home.
This
way.
home
this
way..
There
is
a
garage
here,
and
there
is
a
garage
here,
and
there
safront
door
here.
there
safront
door,
here.
--.
There
is
a
front
door
here.
G
G
So
in
the
hyde
park,
design
guidelines,,
the
mediterranean
guidelines,,
the
mediterranean
revival
style
is
specifically
revival.
Style
is
specifically
called
out.
called
out..
It's
specifically
recognized,
as
it's
specifically
recognized
as
an
appropriate
architectural,
an
appropriate
architectural
style
in
the
historic
district.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
There
is
very
little
ironwork.
in
this
case.
There
are
two
in
this
case.
There
are
two
parcels
of
ironwork
on
a
much
parcels
of
ironwork
on
a
much
larger
home.,
larger
home.
you'll,
see
there
are
a
few
you'll
see
there
are
a
few
windows.
windows.
you'll
see
the
asymmetrical
you'll,
see
the
asymmetrical
facade.
facade.
you'll,
see
these
two
windows
you'll
see
these
two
windows,
which
I
can
not
determine,
if
which
I
can
not
determine.
If
those
are
true
windows
or
blind.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
This
is
the
view
looking
out
on
the
crosstown.
the
crosstown..
This
was
taken
at
10:30
at
this
was
taken
at
10:30
at
night,
correct?
night,,
correct?
10:30
at
night.
10:30
at
night..
This
is
the
view..
This
is
the
view..
You
can
see
the
lights.,
you
can
see
the
lights..
This
was
taken
during
the
day..
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
Home.
notice,
the
detail:
work.
notice,
the
wall,
sconce,
notice,
notice,
the
wall,
sconce,
notice,
the
wall,
sconce,
notice,
the
wall,
the
wall,
sconce,
notice,
the
wall,
sconce.,
sconce.
notice.
Here
on
the
garage
we
notice
here
on
the
garage
we
have
a
water
table,
which
I'll
have
a
water
table,
which
I'll
describe
in
greater
detail,
describe
in
greater
detail,
later.
later..
It
does
not
present
well
on
this.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
Which
are
more
narrow..
Thank
you
to
arc
staff
for
comments
you
to
arc
staff
for
comments
with
respect
to
the
sizing
and
with
respect
to
the
sizing
and
orientation
of
these
windows.
orientation
of
these
windows.
notice,
how
they
are
not
squares,
notice
how
they
are
not
squares,.
They
are
recollection
language.
G
G
G
This
is
a
concrete
block
c
and
uconn
instruction.
uconn
instruction..
Our
builder
has
advised
us
that
our
builder
has
advised
us
that
the
best
way
that
we
can
get
the
best
way
that
we
can
get
relief
and
implement
this
relief
and
implement
this
structure
with
the
blind
windows
structure
with
the
blind
windows
and
get
context
and
texture
is
and
get
context
and
texture
is
to
have
a
two-inch
recess.
G
G
G
G
G
G
You
will
see
two
windows
on
the
second
floor,
two
windows
on
the
second
floor,
two
windows
on
the
first
floor,
recollection;
first
floor,
recollection
language,
lar,,
one
window
on
the
language
lar,
one
window.
On
the
second
floor
of
the
garage
second
floor
of
the
garage
recollection
lang,
tang
lar.,
recollection
lang,
tang
lar.,
we
have
--
rectangular.,
we
have
--
rectangular.,
we
have
many
architectural.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
For
example,,
look
at
the
simple
yet
elegant
wall,
sconces
on
the
yet
elegant
wall,
sconces
on
the
property
owner's
current
property
owner's,
current
structure.
structure.,
look
at
the
use
of
the
mailbox.
look
at
the
use
of
the
mailbox.
look
at
the
use
of
planters
with
look
at
the
use
of
planters
with
nice,
landscaping.
nice
landscaping..
Look
at
the
use
of
this.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
I
don't
know,
if
maybe
a
touch
premature,
to
add
this
level
of
premature
to
add
this
level
of
detail
to
the
project
at
this
detail
to
the
project
at
this
point,.
But
it's
something
that
point,,
but
it's
something
that
you
know
from
experience.
The
you
know
from
experience.
The
property
owners
are
interested.
G
G
G
G
Landscaping
and
other
elements.
an
example
of
iron
work
on
an
example
of
iron
work
on
stucco,,
simple
iron,
work,,
not
a
stucco,,
simple
iron
work,,
not
a
lot
of
excess
ornamentation,,
but
lot
of
excess
ornamentation,,
but
notice.
The
care.
notice,
the
care.
notice,
the
implementation.
notice,
the
implementation.
notice,
the
landscaping.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
It
would
be
a
shame
to
copy
this.
this..
It
would
be
a
shame
to
use
the
it
would
be
a
shame
to
use
the
same
awnings,
the
same
archway,
same
awnings,,
the
same
archway,,
the
same
ornamentation.,
the
same
ornamentation..
Here
we
are
22
years
later,,
and
here
we
are
22
years
later,
and
we
have
a
design
that
is.
G
G
It's
a
good
project
for
the
district
to
have
this
perhaps
district,
to
have
this
perhaps
marginal
peace
of
land
with
the
marginal
peace
of
land
with
the
homeowner
that
has
this
level
of
homeowner.
That
has
this
level
of
quality
on
their
mind
and
this
quality
on
their
mind
and
this
design
contemplated
is
a
design
contemplated,
is
a
treasure
to
us
all,
and
we
treasure
to
us
all,,
and
we
should
applaud
irene
and
should
applaud
irene
and
del
acosta
for
taking
this
del
acosta
for
taking
this
project.
On.
G
G
G
G
We
greatly
appreciate
the
many
contributions
of
this
project
contributions
of
this
project
and
are
looking
to
achieve
a
and
are
looking
to
achieve
a
simple,
high
quality
home
in
simple,
high
quality
home,
in
line
with
the
design
guidelines
line
with
the
design
guidelines.
That
will
show
well
and
be
a.
E
E
Zoning
staff
will
now
present
staff
report.
staff,
report.
rob
vila:
staff,
historic,
rob,
vila:
staff,
historic
preservation.,
preservation.
staff,
finding
that
this
is
staff
finding
that
this
is
consistent
with
the
hyde
park
consistent
with
the
hyde
park,
design,
guidelines.
design
guidelines..
When
we
started,
first
started
when
we
started,
first
started
this
project,,
we
worked
on
with.
E
The
owners
with
the
design
style.
style.,
once
the
design
style,
was
once
the
design
style
was
defined
within
that
have
cab
defined
within
that
have
cab
lawyer,.
They
moved
forward.
lawyer,,
they
moved
forward..
Some
of
the
earlier
concerns
some
of
the
earlier
concerns
that
we
had
were
the
elevation.
E
E
E
Earlier,
iterations
of
this
design,
high
pressure,
a
shingle
design,
high
pressure,
a
shingle
roof.
roof.,
currently
day
that
barrel
roof
currently
day
that
barrel
roof
is
introduced.,
is
introduced.
and
as
we
go
down
the
wall
and
as
we
go
down
the
wall
section,
all
the
items
were
section,.
All
the
items
were
addressed
on
page
3
or
4
of
the
addressed
on
page
3
or
4
of
the
staff
report
with
the
final
staff
report.
E
A
the
staff's
report.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
zachary
greco:
thank
you..
At
this
point.
We
will
open
the
at
this
point.
We
will
open
the
public
hearing
to
any
public
public
hearing
to
any
public
comment.
comment..
If
anyone
would
like
to
speak?,
if
anyone
would
like
to
speak?
okay.
okay.
seeing
none,
commissioners
will.
D
D
D
D
D
G
Same
size
as
the
window
opposite,
the
door?,
the
door?
jolyon
acosta:,
that
is
jolyon
acosta:.
That
is
certainly
a
condition.
That
seems
certainly
a
condition
that
seems
reasonable.
reasonable..
It's
something
that,,
you
know,,
it's
something
that,,
you
know,,
the
property
owners
are
the
property
owners
are
indicating
to
me
that
they
are.
D
D
D
D
G
D
D
D
D
D
G
G
G
D
A
A
E
That
was
to
change,
that's
not
considered
a
major
change
or
considered
a
major
change
or
anything,
correct?
anything,
correct?
rob
vila:.
I
think
part
of
the
rob
vila:.
I
think
part
of
the
discussion
tonight
would
lead
me
discussion
tonight
would
lead
me
to
approve
something
that
was
in
to
approve
something
that
was
in
the
spirit
of
the
discussion,
the
spirit
of
the
discussion
tonight.
tonight..
So
I
would
put
it
into
the.
G
D
G
Would
the
applicant
considered
adding
a
cover
over
considered
adding
a
cover
over
the
north
side,
pedestrian
door?,
the
north
side,
pedestrian
door?,
jolyon
acosta:,
some
sort
of
jolyon
acosta:,
some
sort
of
awning
type,
material?,
awning
type,
material?,
yes.
yes.,
the
property
owners
would
be
the
property
owners
would
be
comfortable
with
that
addition.
B
A
A
I
appreciate
that.
zachary
greco:.
I
have
one
zachary
greco:.
I
have
one
question
and
one
comment.
question
and
one
comment..
If
you
already
showed
this,,
I,
if
you
already
showed
this,,
I
apologize.
apologize.,
the
sill,
that's
understood
the
the
sill,
that's
understood
the
with
window,
on
your
wall
with
window,
on
your
wall
section
or
detail,.
What
is
that.
A
A
A
A
False
window
at
the
top,-
and
I
understand
my
fellow
understand
my
fellow
commissioners'
comments
about
commissioners'
comments
about
balance.
balance..
I
think
either
way,
that
could,
I
think,
either
way,
that
could
either
stay
or
go,
in
my
either
stay
or
go,
in
my
opinion.
opinion.,
and
then
understanding
that
and
then
understanding
that
that's
on
the
garage,
on
the
that's
on
the
garage,
on
the
north
side,
again,,
it
could
be
a
north
side,
again,,
it
could
be
a
small
window
or
it
could
be
a
small
window
or
it
could
be
a
larger
window,.
In
my
opinion.
A
A
I
do
like
the
comment
about
the
front
door
and
kind
of
the
stoop
front
door
and
kind
of
the
stoop
on
that.
on
that..
So
I
think
the
image
that
you
so
I
think
the
image
that
you
showed
of
the
property
owner's
showed
of
the
property
owner's
homes
does
have
a
really
nice
homes
does
have
a
really
nice
condition
where
it's
steps
and
condition
where
it's
steps
and
then
on
either
side.
There's
kind.
A
Planters
to
be
placed
on
that.
in
that
photo.
You
see
right
in
that
photo.
You
see
right,
there,,
you
have
your
steps
and
there,
you
have
your
steps
and
kind
of
have
the
walls
on
the
kind
of
have
the
walls
on
the
side.
side..
I'm
not
saying
that
this
is
I'm
not
saying
that
this
is
needed
in
here,,
but
I
do
think
needed
in
here,,
but
I
do
think
that
you
said
that
description
that
you
said
that
description
of
those
kind
of
details
would.
G
A
G
G
A
G
G
A
A
C
Discuss
the
case.
amber
dickerson:,
I
still
have
amber
dickerson:.
I
still
have
concerns
over
the
style
in
the
concerns
over
the
style,
in
the
sense
that
it
looks
so
modern
sense
that
it
looks
so
modern
with
just
like
a
mediterranean
with
just
like
a
mediterranean
roof.
roof.
and
then
also
the
solid
garage.
C
And
then
also
the
solid
garage
door,,
I
understand
the
door,.
I
understand
the
motivation
to
have
a
solid
motivation
to
have
a
solid
garage
door,
but
when
someone
garage
door
but
when
someone
comes
up
and
approaches
the
comes
up
and
approaches
the
home,
and
there's
only
one
home,
and
there's
only
one
window
on
that
wall,
too.
C
A
B
Garage
door?,
okay.
okay.,
I
have
to
say
about
the
I
have
to
say
about
the
pedestrian
door,
like
the
very
pedestrian
door,.
Like
the
very
simple
stock
side.
Door,,
we
have
simple
stock
side
door,.
We
have
seen
that
a
couple
times
seen
that
a
couple
times
tonight.
tonight..
I
have
the
same
feeling
about.