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A
Manager
welcome
to
this
evening's
meeting
in
accordance
with
your
rules
of
procedure,
in
that
your
chair
and
vice
chair
are
not
present.
This
evening,
we
will
need
to
an
elected
elect
a
chair
for
the
evening.
Are
there
any
nominations
for
that
chair.
C
A
Okay
with
that,
would
you
have
a
motion
all
those
in
favor.
B
A
D
D
Good
evening
all
I
would
like
to
call
to
order
the
monday
october
4th
2021
public
hearing
for
the
city
of
tampa
architectural
review.
Commission,
I
welcome
everyone.
My
name
is
stephen
sutton.
I
ordinarily
hold
the
architectural
historian
chair
for
this
board,
but
for
tonight
I'll
be
here
your
acting
chairman.
D
If
you
are
here
to
present
a
project,
you
will
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentation,
so
we
suggest
you
be
thorough
and
concise
when
coming
to
the
microphone,
you
will
need
to
identify
yourself
and
your
relationship
to
the
project.
The
commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
presentation.
D
Your
project
should
be
presented
within
the
following
order:
site
plan,
elevations
architectural
details,
wall
sections
staff
will
then
present
their
report,
and
we
will
then
ask
for
public
comment
following
your
presentation.
The
commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
your
presentation,
please
state
and
spell
your
name
clearly.
If
you
are
here
to
speak
for
or
against
a
project,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes
so
take
time
now,
to
summarize
your
comments,
because
three
minutes
go
by
very
quickly
following
public
comment:
the
applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
D
D
G
Yes,
mr
chair,
mario
I've
had
a
snack
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
Can
you
please
have
a
motion
regarding
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
september
15th
and
september
22nd
2021.
A
Good
evening,
commissioners
dennis
fernandez
once
again,
architecture
and
historic
preservation
manager,
just
a
couple
brief
announcements.
First
of
all,
I
do
have
the
list
of
administrative
approvals
for
september
that
I
will
provide
to
the
clerk
and
enter
into
the
record.
I
believe
you
have
a
copy
of
those.
A
Secondly,
we
will
be
holding
the
remainder
for
the
october
cycle
cases
at
a
public
hearing
on
wednesday
october
6th
at
6
p.m.
You
do
have
a
quorum
for
that
evening
and
an
agenda
prepared,
so
we
will
see
some
of
you,
then.
A
Lastly,
the
2022
calendar
has
been
provided
to
you.
I
believe
both
digitally
and
printed
version
at
this
time.
Once
again,
if
you
have
any
questions
about
that,
please
do
you
get
with
the
staff
or
or
give
me
a
call
on
it
also.
Just
to
know
we
discussed
that
the
meeting
schedule
will
be
adjusted
so
that
the
hearings
begin
at
5,
30
p.m,
beginning
in
january,
so
we'll
be
kind
of
giving
you
some
subtle
reminders
of
that
as
we
approach
january
as
well.
A
G
C
G
C
H
Good
evening,
commissioners
ron
vila
I'm
staff
with
historic
preservation
under
continuations
reflected
on
tonight's
agenda.
We
have
one
which
is
arc
21-312
for
the
address
of
713
south
orleans
avenue.
This
was
requested
by
the
agent
to
be
continued
to
the
wednesday
october
6
2021
public
hearing
at
6
pm,
and
if
we
can
get
a
motion
for
that,
please.
H
H
On
page
three
of
the
staff
report,
you
have
the
application
of
standards
that
states
that
that
your
duties
and
powers
this
evening
as
we
get
more
into
the
hearing,
I
will
read
what
your
what
your
responsibilities
are
this
evening
before
we
get
started
everybody
that
wishes
to
testify
this
evening.
Please
stand
up
and
raise
your
right
hand.
H
On
your
monitors
is
highlighted
in
the
green
shaded
area,
it's
a
corner
parcel
on
the
corner
of
palm
avenue,
that
is
to
the
north,
and
you
have
central
that's
to
the
east.
This
is
the
1929
sanborn
map.
You
see
the
concentration
of
contributing
structures
that
were
there
towards
palm
avenue.
You
see
some
auxiliary
buildings
and
the
main
building
was
towards
the
rear
that
kind
of
flanked
the
the
alley.
There's
a
series
of
contributing
structures
that
are
to
the
west
in
1929.
H
H
This
is
the
overhead
shot,
current
overhead
of
palm
avenue
and
central.
Once
again,
it's
indicated
by
the
green
shaded
area.
You
do
have
an
alley
that
runs
to
the
rear.
You
see
some
rubble
that
was
there.
There
was
a
structure
that
dates
back
to,
I
believe,
the
60s
and
through
time
it's
taken
a
turn
for
the
worst
in
2017.
H
It
was
completely
demoed
through
the
years
it
was
partially
demoed
and
then
it
just
received
final
approval
in
2017.
H
This
is
it
directly
across
palm
to
the
north.
H
H
This
is
looking
down
central
as
you
get
into
the
neighborhood.
This
is
looking
to
the
south
and
just
the
condition
in
the
alley
will
conclude
with
the
alley
is
or
does
meet
transportation
standards
it's
paved
and
just
to
conclude,
the
last
shot
that
I
have.
This
is
coming
out
of
the
alley
and
the
junction
is
central.
I
This
is
the
property
directly
west
and
then
these
four
structures,
as
we
continue
down
the
block,
are,
are
different.
These
are
all
commercial
structures.
However,
they
were
originally
built
as
residences,
but
they
are
now
currently
used
at
the
residential
office.
Space
as
most
of
stuff
in
palm
avenue
is
across
to
the
east.
Is
this
structure
it's
post
world
war
ii,
but
is
labeled
contributing
it's
a
all
brick
structure,
this
one
to
the
north,
which
is
stucco
brick
and
then
our
subject,
property.
I
Which
is
our
pd
request
for
tonight
is
to
con
construct,
basically,
is
going
to
be
a
single
townhouse,
duplex,
two
units
in
the
front
and
then
an
accessory
structure
with
two
two
car
garages
and
two
one
bedroom
studio
apartments
on
the
rear,
so
essentially
a
primary
structure
and
an
accessory
structure
in
conjunction
with
the
fabric
and
the
the
rhythm
that
we
have
established
along
with
palm
avenue.
With
with
these,
with
this
structure,
looking
very
similar
to
the
other
structures,
we
saw
running
west.
I
I
There
is
a
code
that
says
we
have
to
have
the
garage
in
the
in
the
main
structure
for
townhouse
development,
and
the
second
is
to
reduce
the
required
parking
from
nine
to
eight
spaces.
Again.
This
is
a
bit
of
not
true
in
that
transportation
is
deeming
these
two
studios
as
separate
full
dwelling
units
and
requiring
two
parking
spaces
per
dwelling
unit.
Typically,
we
would
call
this
a
mother-in-law
suite
and
only
require
one
parking
space
which
then
I
would
meet
the
parking
requirements
entirely
with
six
spaces
in
the
rear
and
and
two
along.
I
The
other
other
part
we're
looking
at
is
a
lot
averaging
the
front
of
the
house
to
the
west,
which
is
now
an
office.
It's
23.5
feet,
then,
if
you
notice
from
this
block
to
this
block,
the
the
property
line
actually
gets
closer
to
the
road,
and
this
this
house
is
only
14
and
a
half
feet.
We
kind
of
took
a
strong
line
between
here
and
here
and
came
up
with
19
feet
as
the
as
the
dimension.
I
That
we
think
is
a
is
a
good
average
between
these
these
structures
to
get
to
where
we're
going
to
place
the
main
structure
of
the
duplex,
all
other
setbacks
are
really
meet
normal
zoning
setbacks.
We
are
required
to
we're
here
with
you
tonight,
mainly
because
we
were
already
a
pd.
This
was
pd
20
years
ago
as
a
specialty
retail,
and
so
we
were
not
allowed
to
revert
back
to
the
normal
rm24
which
most
of
the
neighborhood
is
in.
I
I
We
have
pedestrian
gates
here
and
here
all
see
him
going
through
the
staff
findings.
Here
all
the
solid
waste
would
be
from
the
from
the
alley
and
would
refuse
containers
would
be
in
in
the
garage
and
then,
if
you
saw
all
this,
and
I
can
go
back
I'll
show
you
the
elevations
proposed
we,
we
are
not
really
discussing
the
compatibility
elevations
at
this.
We're
just
compatible
discussing
the
site
plan,
but
I
figured
the
massing
of
such
is
pretty
straightforward.
I
I
The
east
elevation,
which
is
also
on
central,
is
the
side,
and
then
this
is
the
rear
which
is
being
internal
to
to
the
courtyard.
I
And
then
the
elevations
of
the
accessory
structure
west,
which
is
internal
to
the
street
next
door,
to
the
property
next
door
east
faces
central
and
then
south,
which
is
the
alley,
looks
like
that.
I
H
Good
evening,
commissioners
ron
villa
staff
with
historic
preservation.
The
request
in
front
of
you
this
evening
is
for
a
recommendation
to
rezone
from
pd2pd
pds
are
site
plan
specific,
so
the
prior
pd
is
not
consistent
with
what's
being
requested
this
evening.
H
Finding
that
this
application
is
consistent,
there
were
a
number
of
bullet
items
that
were
conditions
listed
on
page
three,
mr
schuler
addressed
the
majority
of
them,
I'd
like
for
him
to
to
revisit
two
of
them,
how
he
provided
additional
parking
on
site
with
the
relocation
of
a
gate
on
the
west
side
of
the
property
and
to
show
the
mechanicals
on
the
site
plan
as
well.
H
B
Okay,
sir,
so
it
wasn't
immediately
apparent
when
I
reviewed
the
plans
previously,
so
you
need
to
have
parking
spaces
sort
of
you're
checking
a
car
underneath
the
stairway,
correct,
which
sort
of
doesn't
give
much
security
to
the
entrances
to
the
studios.
B
I
Yeah,
so
I
believe
he's
referring
to
this
gate
here.
It's
been
was
pushed
back
was
originally
forward,
so
it
allows
for
two
two
off
street
parking
spaces
past
the
structure
of
the
house
or
the
duplex.
B
And
the
I
guess,
it's
the
let's
see
north.
B
This
studio
building
did
you
look
at
that
being
a
shed
roof
rather
than
a
gable,
so
that
you
could
catch
some
north
light
in
there?
That's
it's
kind
of
a
it
has
kind
of
a
bad
elevation
facing
the
courtyard.
It
seems
it's
pretty
it's
pretty
minimal,
but
I
am.
I
am
trespassing
now
into
an
area
that
we're
that
is
not
strictly
part
of
our
purview.
D
On
that
note,
please
I'd
like
to
have
a
further
clarification
from
staff.
We
are
with
this
proposal
before
us
right
now,
looking
at
a
recommendation
for
a
zoning
change
approval,
we
are
not
here
to
review
at
this
point
in
time
anything
of
the
nature
of
design
compatibility
of
this
structure
within
the
tampa
heights,
historic
district.
That
will
come
again
at
another
time
if
the
city
council
so
approves
the
zoning
change.
G
F
Could
you
discuss
the
there
was
a
note
from
the
staff
report
discuss
the
compatibility
of
the
palm
avenue,
porch
composition,
respecting
a
corner
parcel.
I
I
Every
house
on
this
block
has
a
front
porch
that
does
not
wrap
around
that's
it's
a
flat.
This
one
is
an
interior.
It
has
a
slightly
more
wrap
around
that.
It's
really
not
this
one
here
also
is
all
a
front
porch.
I
looked
at
other
structures
here
lately
in
incompatibility
and
we
feel
that
the
a
wraparound
porch
or
a
porch
that
does
that
comes
comes
down.
Central
avenue
would
would
not
be
appropriate
and
is
not
consistent
within
the
other
structures.
On
the
block.
I
I
B
I
They're
similar
now,
the
lot
directly
to
the
east
is
definitely
bigger.
This
is
a
bigger
lot.
I
think
this
lot,
which
is
on
this
corner,
is
similar,
but
it
actually
the
front
face
is
central,
whereas
all
these
other
three
lots
would
be
facing
paul
and
then-
and
then
this
house
is,
is
similar.
It's
maybe
a
few
feet
wider
than
I
have
a
68
foot
wide
lot,
which.
B
I
C
H
B
Oh,
and
what
is
the
is
that
a
swale,
a
storm
water
tree.
I
Yes,
yeah
so
as
part
of
a
pd,
they
want
you
to
show
where
the
potential
storm
water
is.
This
would
be
all
buried
pipe.
None
of
that
would
be
seen
by
by
any
of
the
development.
It's
all
part
of
how
you
would
control
the
first
half
inch,
because
once
we're
over
two
dwelling
units,
you
have
to
retain
the
first
half
inch
of
water,
no
matter
what
your
density
on
the
site
is.
E
I
Well
so
so
the
intent
here
is
is
to
be
able
to
sell
these
off
as
two
separate
lots,
so
that
you
could
have
the
owner
of
this
lot
would
also
own
the
garage
apartment
in
the
garage
itself
and
then
vice
versa.
So
it
would
be
a
lot
split
into,
even
though
it's
four
dwelling
units
which
is
allowed,
it's
really
two
to
two
purchases
of
land.
E
I
Dude,
I
I
do
a
lot
of
these
type
developments
in
and
outside
the
historic
district.
It
happens
all
the
time
that
a
visitor
parking
space
is
either
in
one
side
or
the
other.
There's
no
quote
shared
lot,
because
they're
split
and
we
we
provide
a
a
visitor
partial
spot
on
one
side
of
the
other,
it's
in
the
covenant
that
they
can
share
it
now.
What
happens
after
that?
Anyone
knows,
but
it's
done
very
frequently.
E
H
I
So
again
the
front
we
talked
about
the
lot
averaging,
which
was
19
feet.
The
the
east
side
is
it.
I
have
it
at
nine
foot,
six,
currently
the
west
side
because
of
the
two
trees,
I'm
at
15
feet
to
stay
away
from
the
tree
canopy
and
then,
of
course,
the
rear
doesn't
really
count
on
the
main
structure
on
the
accessory
structures.
I
have
10
feet,
which
is
typical
for
a
accessory
structure
with
with
vehicular
access
and
then
on
on
both
both
sides.
I
D
Mr
schuler,
I
do
have
a
few
questions
of
my
own
sir.
Let
us
discuss
for
a
moment
your
studio
apartments.
D
Yes,
okay
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
sometimes
we
see
the
word
studio
and
bonus
room
and
other
such
things.
You
know
strewn
all
over
the
place
and
that
makes
it
makes
a
qualitative
difference
here.
I.
D
H
So
in
the
tampa
heights,
historic
district,
they
have
a
caveat
in
the
in
the
guidelines
on
page
55
for
corner
parcels
on
corner
lots.
This
is
houses
should
have
porches
extending
50
percent
on
each
facade,
so
it
it
emphasizes
houses.
So
this
this
structure
is
a
multi-family
more
of
a
commercial
project.
We
felt
that
because
he
was
coming
forward,
the
pd
that
he
addressed
it
this
evening
to
see
the
board's
flavor
on
moving
forward.
So
that's
why
it
was
one
of
the
conditions.
I
So
we
did
look
at
it.
It
just
feels
felt
forced
also
the
retention
of
these
camphor
trees
pushed
the
lotto
pushed
the
structure
to
the
east,
a
little
more
than
I
originally
anticipated
and
then
and
then.
Lastly,
we
would
have
have
a
a
a
setback
there
that
would
be
non-traditional
would
probably
only
be
four
or
five
feet
because
currently,
I'm
at
nine
foot,
six.
D
I
The
only
rebuttal
I
might
have
is
this
was
approved
a
couple
years
ago.
It's
two
blocks
to
the
north
and
it's
under
construction,
and
it's
it's
three.
Three
townhouse
developments,
that's
about
seven
feet
from
the
from
the
side
yard
and
and
shoot.
I
don't
know
five
feet
from
the
front
they
have.
They
have
their
garages
facing
an
internal
motor
court
that
they
they
then
elect
to
use
the
the
alley
which
is
here.
I
So
I
think
this
is
extremely
consistent
with
what's
being
being
proposed
tonight
with
with,
in
particular,
this
block
this
corner
and
then
both
central
and
and
palm
avenues.
D
F
I
don't
have
any
comment.
B
Meets
many
of
our
you
know,
meets
our
requirements
in
general
and
is
one
that
I
could
support.
E
E
D
I
don't
know
if
that's
actually
an
option
that
that
that's
for
us
to
make
a
decision
on
might
not
be.
I
mean
this
is
the
design
element
plan
driven
as
much
by
marketing
as
anything
else,
a
point
of
negotiation
right
now
between
staff
and
the
zoning
building,
people
downtown
and
the
the
owner.
What
we're
looking
at
right
now
is
how
well
with
the
information
that
we
have
at
hand
at
this
time,
does
this
proposal
fit
with
its
context.
D
D
I
have
no
further
comment
at
this
point
in
time.
Do
I
have
a
motion,
ladies
and
gentlemen,.
B
D
H
H
H
H
So
in
1929
you
see
the
the
property
indicated
in
the
green
box,
it
does
face
hyde
park,
avenue
platte
is
to
the
north,
and
you
see
the
boundaries
here
of
the
district.
It's
on
the
fringe
of
the
historic
district
of
hyde
park.
In
1929
there
was
a
large
two-story,
quad
plex.
You
see
the
footprint
of
the
structure
compared
to
some
of
the
other
footprints
in
the
immediate
vicinity,
as
it
was
a
frame
building
with
a
little
outbuilding
towards
the
rear.
There
is
no
alley
associated
with
this
parcel.
H
H
This
is
looking
into
the
parcel.
It
was
currently
part
of
a
of
a
larger
site
home
site
which
was
sold
off.
This
is
looking
behind
the
fence
at
that
same
parcel.
There
is
a
tree
in
the
back
that
the
owners
are
conscious
that
the
tree
is
there.
It
is
a
grain
tree
and
they're
trying
to
be
sensitive
to
the
tree
with
the
footprint
of
the
structure.
H
H
This
is
looking
at
one
of
the
a
budding
contributing
structures
that
was
converted
from
single
family
to
an
office
and
on
the
other
side,
this
was
in
1929,
a
single
family
house
and
also
has
been
converted
into
an
office.
H
H
K
Mr
chairman
and
council
good
evening,
I'm
michael
warner,
14
502,
north
dale,
maverick
highway,
tampa
33618,
representing
the
applicant
and
the
owner
with
me.
This
evening
is
mr
brent
bulge,
who
is
the
owner
and
applicant?
Mr
bulge
will
follow
me
after
my
presentation
comments
with
me.
Also.
We
have
two
representatives
of
design
styles
architecture.
K
K
K
K
This
is
a
three-story
multi-family
proposed
development.
These
will
be
45
foot,
high
structure,
four
units
on
the
second
floor,
four
units
on
the
third
floor,
and
then
the
bottom
elevation,
of
course,
for
the
parking
and
the
surface
improvements
that
tree,
I
want
to
say,
is
a.
We
had
it
initially
at
72
inches
in
that
northeast
corner.
It
is
beautiful
and
it
does
have
some
canopy
support.
Structural
limbs,
we
have
had
our
arborists
review
that
tree
and
we
are
saving
that
tree.
K
K
K
K
K
On
the
actual
site
plan
itself,
commissioners,
all
surface
parking,
we
are
required
to
have
18
parking
spaces
and
we
have
provided
18
parking
spaces.
We
are
essentially
replicating
that
footprint
above
the
parking
for
the
extended
structure
above
the
two
floors.
So
bottom
we
have
a
male
kiosk
office.
We
have
two
required
stairwells
from
the
fire
department.
K
We
have
an
elevator,
we
have
a
dumpster
located
here.
This
is
outside
of
the
structure
overhang
for
maneuverability
of
the
parking.
You
can
see
an
ada
space
here,
24
foot,
minimum
drive
aisle
required
by
transportation,
chapter
27,
and
then
we
have
one
driveway
coming
through
hyde
park
with
broad
curb
radii
to
hyde
park
itself.
K
K
K
K
We
are
proposing
and
replicating
the
existing
vinyl
fencing
around.
We
show
in
our
records.
This
was
two
single-family
structures
historically,
but
we
didn't
go
back
as
far
as
mr
villa
did
on
the
quad.
We
do
have
storm
water
management
being
addressed
through
the
pervious
pavers
that
we
are
proposing,
and
then
we
are
also
proposing.
K
K
K
At
this
time,
commissioners,
I'm
going
to
introduce
brent
bulch
to
make
just
a
few
comments
and
see
his
nose
to
the
grindstone
in
this
project.
For
a
number
of
months,
then,
he'll
be
followed
by
mr
alex
andriakos
to
just
review
the
plan
itself
and
also,
more
importantly,
the
elevations.
Just
briefly,
thank
you.
J
J
As
developers
we
just
finished,
this
is
a
this
is
a
obviously
an
apartment.
Building
we
target
for
university
tampa
students,
student
housing,
we
just
completed
a
project,
that's
same
function
on
willow
and
kennedy
right
in
that,
and
and
also
next
to
willow
and
cleveland
street.
So
we
have
a
project
very
summer
that
just
opened
in
august,
and
it's
turned
out,
I
think
very
nice,
and
this
one
is
a
little
more
detailed
because
of
the
location
but
working
with
the
guys
at
dsa,
alex
and
andy.
J
I
think
we've
really
come
up,
and
and
of
course,
mr
vela
and
the
city
come
up
with
a
building.
That's
gonna
really
try
to
fit
the
neighborhood
and
look
like
it's
certainly
compatible
with
with
the
neighborhoods
very
important
to
us
that
it
does
that
we're
going
to
own
and
operate
the
building
for
the
very
long
term
like
our
other
building.
So
we
want
the
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
adding
to
the
neighborhood,
that's
and,
as
mr
horner
said,
the
the
big
tree
in
the
back.
J
We
have,
I
believe,
with
the
the
50
units
breakers.
Only
we
could
do
nine
years,
but
that
tree
in
the
back
is
is
very
important
to
us.
I'm
a
landscape
architect
as
well
as
a
builder,
so
we
always
try
on
our
projects
to
to
maintain
the
integrity
of
you
know
the
the
character
of
the
land
and
that
tree
is
certainly
worth
saving.
J
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
nice
addition
provides
some
separation
with
the
the
the
surrounding
buildings,
and
you
know
it's
it's
an
important
tree,
so
we're
definitely
saving
that
the
guys
at
dsa
can
speak
the
architectural
language
that
I
can't,
but
certainly
I
think
that
those
guys
I'll
show
you
a
quick,
a
quick
rendering
of
what
these
guys
produced
and
working
with
the
city
and
then
I'll.
Let
these
guys
speak
to
to
to
that.
J
L
Good
evening,
commissioners,
I'm
alex
with
design
styles
architecture,
1708,
east
columbus,
drive,
tampa
florida,
33605,
so
brett
came
to
us
and
asked
us
to
help
make
this
building
fit
within
the
context
of
the
neighborhood.
L
So
he's
shown
you
that
the
renderings
that
we
provided
for
him,
but
just
to
go
through
the
plans
a
little
more
detailed.
This
is
the
ground
ground-based
floor,
showing
what
mr
horner
was
mentioning.
We
have
you
know
the
drive
aisle
here.
We
have
the
mailroom,
that
is
on
the
ground
level,
but
we
addressed
the
front
of
the
building
by
creating
these
front
porches
that
you
know
identify
with
the
with
the
neighboring
structures.
L
Going
up
to
the
second
and
third
floor:
these
are
the
units,
four
unit
configurations,
multiple
bedrooms
per
unit
and
then
I'll
just
go
around
the
building
quickly,
because
I
know
we
run
out
time
here,
but
this
would
be
the
front
elevation
showing
these
front
porches
with
windows
facing
hyde
park
created.
We
created
this
tower
element
and
using
materials
that
are
typically
found
in
the
neighborhood,
so
using
the
shaker,
siding
and
the
traditional
siding
with
bands
around
the
windows
we're
using
brackets
to
sort
of
accentuate
the
roof
element.
L
This
is
the
south
elevation
showing
what's
facing
the
office
residential
to
the
south,
showing
the
tower
here
showing
we're
using
the
siding
and
the
shakers
here.
And
then
this
is
the
north
elevation,
which
is
one
of
the
most
prominent
elevations
that
you
would
see
driving
down
hyde
park
once
again
using
the
materials
that
I
mentioned
before.
L
So
just
trying
to
be
brief
here,
I'll
pull
back
to
the
rendering
we're
suggesting
some
signage
for
the
building
be
located
here,
using
your
your
traditional
hand,
rail
and
then
using
brick
at
the
base
to
sort
of
tie
it
into
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood.
K
K
I
think
alex
has
done
an
incredible
job.
Mr
bulge
is
really
a
hard-working
guy
that
has
just
put
everything
into
this
project.
He
just
finished
his
other
project
and
it's
quite
beautiful,
a
different
architectural
style,
of
course,
not
an
architectural
historic
district,
but
he
just
finished
that
one
and
this
one
has
been
on
the
front
burner
for
the
last
three
months
and
the
changes
that
we
have
made
with
the
elevations
that
front
those
two
front
porches
on
hyde
park.
I
think
really
speak
to
the
character
of
this
neighborhood.
The
condo
towers
are
there.
K
We
have
to
deal
with
them.
We
have
presbyterian
church,
beautiful
church,
further
south,
we
have
office
suburban
office
type
development
across
the
street,
but
the
two
structures,
east
and
west.
We
think
this
dovetails
nicely
with
those
architectural
elements.
It
concludes
my
presentation.
I
have
to
answer
any
questions.
H
Thank
you
for
that.
My
commissioners
ron
villa
staff
of
the
historic
preservation
moving
to
the
staff
report,
just
to
remind
you
of
your
duties
and
powers
in
chapter
27,
113
with
regards
to
the
application
for
rezoning
lane,
use
changes
or
comprehensive
plan
amendments
to
review
and
recommend
reasonable
land
use,
changes
to
the
extent
necessary
to
preserve
the
historic
integrity
and
appearance
within
the
local,
historic
district.
H
H
The
existing
conditions
that
need
additional
discussion
are
to
list
and
discuss
all
waivers.
I
know
they
addressed
a
portion
of
them,
but
I
don't
know
if
that
was
a
comprehensive
list
of
all
the
waivers.
H
Mr
horner
did
touch
upon
to
reduce
the
drive
out.
As
you
come
into
the
the
project,
the
minimum
dimensional
that
meets
transportation
standards
requirements
should
be
met.
I
think
that
there's
a
little
bit
of
gravy
in
that
that
should
be
revisited
when
this
first
came
in
this
had
an
ada
accessibility
ramp
on
the
side
of
the
building.
Since
then,
it
has
been
modified.
H
If
you
look
at
the
project,
the
project
is
on
a
podium
currently-
and
I
put
this
comment
in
there
just
for
for
future
food
for
thought
that
the
side
elements
that
are
visible,
especially
coming
north
on
hyde
park,
avenue
that
that
should
be
buffered
in
a
way
that
is
more
consistent.
So
it
looks
like
the
building
is,
grounded
final
location
for
the
mechanicals
should
be
illustrated,
and
then
the
last
comment
I
have
is
the
last
bullet
item
here
for
the
larger
pd
projects
that
come
forward.
H
It
allows
this
board
some
flexibility
at
the
time
that
it's
reviewed
for
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
with
the
architecture,
components
that
there's
a
five
foot
adjustment
to
the
building
setback,
dimensional
requirements
that
are
illustrated
today.
So,
if
something,
if,
if
a
balcony
needs
to
protrude
out
or
the
building
needs
to
jet
in
to
break
down
some
of
the
massing
that
that
language
is
there
and
is
available
for
you
to
use
that
to
get
a
better
product
when
it
comes
forward
for
the
certificate
of
appropriateness?
D
E
J
Grant
bulge
so
we
use
permeable
pavers
and
the
stormwater
staff,
and
we've
done
it
on
a
number
of
projects
and
the
one
that
we
just
recently
finished
at
on
south
willow,
the
in
lieu
of
water
retention
ponds.
If
you
will,
we
use
permeable
pavers
throughout
the
whole
ground
plant
and
it's
amazing
how
much
water
those
things
will
take
in
I've,
seen
it
all
of
our
rooftop
on
our
existing
building,
which
is
a
little
larger
than
this
one,
the
gutters
feed
they
come
down
off
the
building
and
they
feed
to
the
parking
lot.
J
Yeah,
it's
it's
mostly
primarily
a
rooftop
flat
roof,
so
yeah
all
that
water
gets
onto
the
pavers
and
the
parking
lot
is
sort
of
angled
towards
the
center.
If
you
will
on
each
side
and
yeah
takes
it.
E
So
I
understand
the
pervious
paver
aspect
for
sure,
so
to
clarify
you've
got
internal
gutters
coming
off
the
drains
draining
down
through
and
then
coming
into
the
paver
area.
J
E
F
Would
you
mind
just
running
through,
like
bullet
points
of
all
of
the
waivers
associated
with
your
request.
K
We
are
shy
of
meeting
that
350
square
feet,
so
that
is
one
of
the
waivers
that
displacement's
about
a
32
reduction.
The
other
waiver
is
tree
displacement.
We
have
requirement
for
19
trees,
we're
placing
eight
those
inches
are
32
provided
and
48
inches
required.
So
we
have
a
16
inch
deficiency
which
would
be
asking
for
the
contribution
to
the
tree
fund.
K
K
For
each
individual
multi-family
unit,
ma'am
in
the
city
of
tampa
so
eight
times,
350
would
get
to
the
x
amount
of
square
foot
required.
Then
you
also
have
vehicle
use
area.
In
this
case
we
are
a
little
less
than
320
square
feet
per
unit.
So
therefore,
that
deficiency
goes
into
a
waiver
that
city
council
be
asked
to
approve.
G
K
K
K
K
K
L
L
J
The
office
building
to
the
north,
I'm
not
sure
the
exact
footage,
but
the
constraint
there
is
they
have
a
large
oak
tree
in
the
front
of
their
property,
so
their
their
building
is
actually
set
back
further
out
of
necessity
because
they
have
a
large
grand
oak
in
the
front.
Ours
is
in
the
back
which
made
us
push
ours
forward.
J
C
J
No
real
constraints
there,
they
may
have
a
small
tree
in
the
front,
but
so
our
primary
consideration
was
that
large
grand
oak
tree
that
forced
us
to
pull
the
building
to
the
front
in
order
to
save
and
stay
out
of
the
large
limbs
that
it's
a
very
large
tree,
it
really
extends
out
just
to
the
further
south
to
us.
There
is
the
church
that
goes.
That
also
is
pulled
right
up
to
the
sidewalk.
E
J
Our
building,
I
believe,
is
just
probably
four
or
five
feet.
J
I
know
that
that's
a
20
foot
radius,
I
believe,
shown
around
that
oak
tree.
It's
a
10
foot
radius.
Actually,
it
says
there
so
probably
18
feet
18
to
20
feet.
J
The
limbs
on
that
tree
extend
south,
primarily
there's
a
very
large
one,
going
heading
south
where
you
can
see
where
we
shrunk
the
building
back.
We
pulled
the
building
back
here
because
there
are
large
limbs
standing
there
so
that
we
stay
out
of
the
way
of
those
and
we
don't
have
to
trim
anything.
That's
you
know
anything
excessive.
It's
really
the
character
of
the
tree.
F
I
have
a
question
for
steph
with
the
pd
presented
this
way.
Are
there
not
our
typical
required
setbacks
for
the
side
and
rear
yards.
H
You
could
look
at
the
underlying
zoning,
that's
associated
with
this
parcel
and
see
what
the
the
setbacks
would
be
and
then
the
setbacks
would
be
established
as
presented
with
the
site
planets
in
front
of
this
evening.
So
the
dimension
of
the
setbacks
are
are
put
into
place
through
the
approval.
Through
this
board's
recommendation
and
through
city
council.
D
B
H
F
And
the
the
condition
listed
today,
the
drive
shown
underneath
the
building
is
24
feet
is
the
sort
of
flare
onto
the
right-of-way
on
the
main,
also
a
concern,
or
just
that
interior
dry
vial.
F
H
F
K
Michael
horner,
again
for
the
record
to
answer
your
prior
question:
we
reduced
this
drive
aisle
from
26
to
the
minimum
of
24
feet
and
yes,
these
parking
spaces
are
required
to
meet
the
minimum
requirements,
nine
by
18
and
all
of
those
meet
to
the
nine
by
eighteen,
a
little
bit
more
difficult
because
internally,
we
need
as
much
maneuvering
area
in
that
confined
space
as
possible.
So.
E
B
And
you
stated
that
the
the
target
population
that
you're
interested
in
renting
these
units
to
is
college
students,
and
so
there
are
eight
there
are
eight
units
and
each
unit
has
four
individual
bedrooms
and
baths.
Is
that
correct?
That's
correct?
So
that
means
that
there
are
32
kids
they're
going
to
live
there
and
there
so
we're
giving
them
18
parking
spaces
or
they
have
been
required.
18
parking
spaces.
K
J
Did
you
want
to
say
brett
yeah
if
I
could
brent
balch
we're
not
going
to
have
an
active
manager's
office
on
site?
Actually,
it's
it's.
It's
going
to
be
a
flex
space!
There's
going
to
be
a
male
kiosk
in
that
building.
We
have
in
our
other
building,
which
is
just
a
few
blocks
away
on
south
willow,
a
true
manager's
office
in
there
and
we'll
manage
them.
Both
you
know
from
that
office.
J
J
To
give
you
some
quick
numbers
in
our
in
our
other
buildings,
36
students,
there,
nine
units,
four
bedroom,
very,
very
similar
functioning
building.
We
have,
we
were
required
to
have
22
spaces.
I
believe
there
and
we
have
24
and
of
our
36
students.
We
have
19
cars,
19
parking
reserve
parking
for
19
students
there
are
32
of
them
are
from
new
york,
connecticut
new
jersey.
We
only
have
four
florida,
kids,
no
local,
kids
and
many
of
them
just
don't
bring
their
cars.
J
Less
well,
we
I
think
that
we're
allowed
to
have
the
numbers,
the
r50
we
could
do
nine.
I
believe
we're
doing
eight
just
to
carve
out
that
that
back
you
know
for
the
oak
tree.
J
So
yeah
I
mean
we
gave
up
a
unit,
you
know
willingly
it's
fine,
but
to
save
that
tree
and
the
character
the
of
the
of
that
area,
but
yeah
I
mean
going
down,
I
mean
the
the
cost
of
this
sketch.
You
know
it's
a
an
economic
of
course.
A
A
Feet
now
the
front
yard,
usually
usually
in
the
historic
district,
is
a
is
calculated
through
the
the
average
long
block.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
I'll,
be
brave,
michael
horner
again
for
the
record.
You
know
we
have
addressed,
I
think
as
many
of
these
issues
as
we
possibly
could
this
evening
we
still
remain
flexible
on
compression
the
drive
aisle
further
if
possible,
but
I
don't
think
that's
going
to
happen
with
jonathan
scott
holding
that
to
24
feet.
K
K
K
D
F
I
do
find
the
elevation
shared
tonight
to
be
very
attractive
and
architecturally
consistent
with
the
district.
I
do
find,
however,
the
coverage
of
the
site
to
be
inconsistent,
even
like
sandboard
map
and
knowing
the
area
of
five
foot
side
and
four
foot
side,
yard
setback
and
eight
foot
front
yard.
There's
we're
totally
maximizing
the
lot
for
coverage,
which
typically
is
not
something
that
we
see
in
the
hyde
park.
Historic
district.
C
E
I
agree
with
that
statement.
I
you
know
my
concern
is
is
when
it
comes
to
green
space
trees.
We
look
to
be
less
than
we're
asking
for
really
large
waivers
here
in
comparison
to
what
we
normally
see.
You
know
the
rear
setback,
as
I
realized
that
a
pd
we
can
kind
of
dictate
that.
But
if
we
were
not
talking
pd
here,
the
20
foot
yard
set
rear
yard
setback
would
be
what
it
is,
which
is
basically
what
they
have
in
this
one
corner,
but
in
the
front
would
be
further
back
from
the
road.
E
E
E
F
I
also
think
it
would
have
been
helpful
or
even
is
still
helpful,
to
know
sort
of
in
order
to
understand
the
landscape
of
the
street
to
understand
that
the
setbacks
of
the
two
adjacent
houses
and
we
see
in
the
sanborn
map,
which
is
and
then
the
photo
presentation
as
well,
that
they
are
further
set
back
off
the
street.
B
I
also
find
the
site
coverage
to
be
extraordinary
and
not
in
conformance
with
the
design
guidelines.
B
B
Could
not
support
an
elevation
of
that
sort
at
all,
and
so
I
I
think
that
the
the
project
takes
up
too
much
space
and
is
inconsistent
with
our
with
our
design
guidelines.
D
D
This
is
this
is
something
that
is
not
very
sympathetic
to
the
context
of
hyde
park,
even
though
we
do
see
upon
occasion
more
contemporary
buildings
or
larger
buildings,
but
at
least
they
are
more
in
more
consistent
with
yard
setbacks,
height
limitations,
some
some
compelling
massing.
You
know
I'm
looking
at
the
front
of
this
building
and
I'm
thinking
this
would
look
great
on
kennedy
or
on
delmabri
that
this
is
in
the
heart
of
hyde
park.
Even
though
there
this
strip
of
of
hyde
park.
D
G
G
F
D
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
This
is
directly
across
the
street
to
the
north,
contributing
structure
and
looking
down
amelia,
you
have
some
parking,
that's
associated
with
the
environment.
That's
here
once
again,
this
has
an
rm
zoning
classification,
so
you
have
all
gizzling.
There
is
a
church
on
the
corner
of
amelia
and
jefferson.
This
is
on
the
southwest
corner.
H
H
H
I
Good
evening
ralph
schuler
2401
north
howard
avenue
with
jvb
architect
my
client,
james
falcone,
is
going
to
make
some
brief
statements
and
to
give
a
little
presentation,
then
I'll
follow
up
with
some
more
architectural
details
and
conclude
the
pre-station.
Thank
you.
C
A
Excuse
me,
sir,
just
one
moment,
while
we
just
kind
of
take
care
of
some
procedural
issues,
because
this
ended
in
a
tie
vote,
the
applicant
has
requested
to
present
some
modifications
that
were
not
available
prior
to
that
vote.
It's
the
board's
discretion
to
receive
that
information.
A
I
just
would
like
the
applicant
to
con
to
confirm
that
the
information
that
you're
seeing
now
was
not
part
of
the
prior
presentation,
if
that,
if
that
can
be,
and
if
you
accept
the
new
information
we'll
go
ahead
and
present
that
to
you
at
this
time,
understood.
B
E
M
Thank
you,
commissioners
and
ron
for
bringing
us
back
here.
I
want
to
bring
together
a
little
bit
of
a
story
here
behind
our
changes
of
the
project,
I'm
also
working
with
ralph
and
ron
very
closely
on
this
one.
We're
really
looking
forward
to
bringing
this
one
at
fruition
just
want
to
just
real
quick
story.
You
know
we
have
a
history
working
with
the
blc
and
the
arc.
This
is
a
project
that
I
personally
worked
on
in
ebore,
not
too
far
from
the
copper
till
brewery.
M
Just
want
to
make
it
clear
our
appreciation
for
historic
preservation.
I
just
want
to
go
through
our
current
structure
and
site
previous
plans.
Current
plans,
local
new
construction,
that's
relevant
to
our
project
and
how
we're
meeting
the
application
standards
for
new
construction
within
type
of
heights,
as
ron
had
shown,
here's
our
current
structure
inside
a
non-contributing
block
house.
M
M
M
So
we
made
a
second
modification
for
the
july
meeting
to
tie
into
more
of
the
fabric
of
tampa
heights.
You
can
obviously
see
more
of
a
bungalow
type
design,
some
of
the
issues
that
we
had
run
into
with
this
one
with
the
commissioners.
Again,
we
we
are
in
agreement
at
this
time.
You
know
having
this
connection
here
with
the
massing
felt
a
little
too
large
with
the
garage
there.
So
now
here
we
are
in
october
4th.
The
changes
we
made
forth
with
this
project
now
are
detaching
the
two-car
garage
serving
each
property.
M
M
M
M
M
Here's
our
amelia
overhead,
just
kind
of
showing
the
the
relative
setbacks
of
the
existing
structures,
as
ron
has
shown.
Here's
our
neighbor
to
the
east-
and
this
is
continuing
east
towards
central.
M
Traveling
east
further
for
not
amelia,
newer,
construction,
single
family.
This
is
on
the
corner
of
the
northeast
northwest
corner
of
amelia
and
central
multi-family
structure
across
the
street.
In
the
north
side
of
amelia.
I
try
to
get
as
many
pictures
and
measurements
as
possible
without
disturbing
the
neighbors.
M
M
Lastly,
just
the
multi-family
that
again
and
ron
had
shown
in
previous
picture
directly
behind
the
alley
I'll
let
ralph
take
over.
I
So
I
think
the
reason
why
we
continued
last
time
frankly
was
you
know
we
had
a
large
mass.
I
think
we've
broken
this
mass
down
into
detaching
the
garage
as
an
accessory
structure,
which
I
think
is
significant
change
to
the
design,
which
I
think
will,
I
think,
make
the
commissioners
and
and
and
the
neighborhood
happy
about
that,
and
I
think
we
will
be
too.
I
Sure,
ralph
schuller
jb
architect.
Thank
you.
I
Again,
james
showed
all
the
json
structures.
We
think
this
site
plan
is
extremely
compatible
to
what's
going
on
around
the
the
structure
to
the
south,
which
is
that
yellow
masonry
block
building
is,
is
actually
larger
in
scale
and
massing
to
ours.
They
also
have
four
units
detached
four
single
family.
I'm
sorry
single
car
garages
right
off
the
alley,
so
the
scale
massing
of
their
garage
for
ours
is,
is
nearly
identical
again
to
the
to
the
west.
I
We
have
a
large
church
to
the
south,
another
multi-family,
so
we're
flanked
on
two
sides
by
by
multi-family.
This
will
not,
in
my
opinion,
look
like
a
multi-family
structure.
This
will
look
like
a
single-family
house.
It's
a
duplex,
it's
designed
to
to
mimic
a
more
residential
character.
It's
really,
I
think,
far
superior
to
our
two
neighbors
to
the
to
the
east
and
to
the
south.
I
Addressing
some
of
the
architectural
detailing
we
didn't
really
change
the
overall
style
style
remains
the
same
again
we're
just
breaking
down
the
mapping,
because
that's
the
the
feedback
we
got
previously
similar
elevations,
I'm
sorry
and
wall
sections
as
before,
similar
detailing
of
all
the
windows
and
corners
and
all
that,
as
as
before.
I
And
then,
lastly,
all
of
all
the
type
of
construction
we're
going
to
use
a
single
hud
single
hung
vinyl
windows,
but
they
will
be
recessed
two
inches
within
a
two
by
six
stud
wall
which
we
have
done
previously
here
and
it
makes
for
a
real
nice
design.
Aesthetic,
a
garage
door
carriage
style
looks
something
like
that:
three
tab,
I'm
sorry,
dimensional,
shingle,
gray,
gray,
roof.
I
I
So
with
all
that,
I
would
would
respectfully
request
a
certificate
of
appropriations
for
today
for
the
drawings
and
details
presented.
Thank
you.
H
Good
evening,
commissioners
ron
villa
staff
with
historic
preservation
staff
finding
that
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
tampa
heights
design
guidelines,
with
the
changes
presented
from
the
prior
presentations
with
the
detachment
of
the
garage
to
bring
down
the
massing
and
the
detached
accessory
structures
are
just
one
story.
The
massinon
site
has
been
reduced.
H
There
are
some
conditions
that
were
associated
with
this
request
if
he
could
elaborate
on
the
visitor
parking
spot.
I
know
he's
in
discussion
with
city
of
tampa
departments,
for
the
approval
of
that
and
then
also
just
to
go
through
a
wall
section
and
just
to
focus
from
ridge
to
grade
exactly
all
the
exterior
elements
on
that
and
to
focus
on.
H
G
I
So
I'll
address
the
design
exceptions
that
we've
had
requested
for
zoning
prior
to
the
application
we've
addressed
those
couple
times
before,
but
I'll
now
the
site
plan
has
changed
a
little
bit.
The
conditions
have
slightly
changed,
so
we
are
requesting
a
waiver
for
for
a
one
visitor
parking
space
that
is.
I
A
typical
thing
we
I
have
done
on
these
type
of
developments,
because
there
really
are
single
family
houses
attached
single
family,
semi
detaches,
the
technical
term,
for
the
zoning.
We
have
significant
street
parking
here.
It's
a
corner
alley,
a
corner
unit
with
parking
all
over
jeffers
street
jeff
street
I
live
on
is
extremely
wide
street.
You
can
park
on
both
sides
and
drive
on
both
sides.
I
I
The
other
waiver
doesn't
really
apply
anymore,
which
was
an
ac
waiver,
because
previously
we
had
the
ac
facing
the
street,
and
then
I
don't
believe
I
remember
the
third
wave.
I
think
there
was
a
third.
C
I
Which
I
don't
think
we
we
need
anymore
either
running
through
the
basics
I
have.
The
first
floor
is
proposed
to
be
out
of
out
of
block.
But
again
all
this
will
be
a
hardy
board
party
board
fascias,
which
would
be
exposed
with
with
bead
board
style
faces,
we'd,
have
all
the
trim
and
and
detailing
between
the
casement
and
the
corner
boards.
Everything
would
be
hardy
board.
Also
I
have,
I
can
show
you
those
details
soon.
I
I
have
10
foot
to
the
first
floor
and
then
20
foot
eight
to
the
truss
bearing
so
I
have
about
a
nine
foot
second
floor.
The
the
roof
pitch
is
12
6.
I
All
of
the
all
the
project
is
is
on
a
elevated
stem
wall,
so
we
don't
really
have
any
venting.
I
can
show
you
these
elevations
again,
but
it
would
be.
I
We
have
a
skirt
board
skirt
board
here
to
transition
from
a
stucco
base
to
to
the
hearty
body
of
the
building,
and
then
we
do
have
corner
columns.
I
have
a
triple
column
in
each
corner
and
then
a
double
in
the
middle.
I
think
that's
a
nice
nice
detail
gable
vents
on
each
on
each
on
all
the
gables,
with
the
board
and
batten
between
and
again,
I
think
I
think
it's
completely
compatible
with
what
the
neighborhood
has
window
detailing.
I
Again,
as
described
previously,
we're
going
to
use
a
two
by
six
wall
and
then
recess
these
windows,
two
inches,
which
we
have
done
previously
on
several
projects
in
in
the
district.
It
comes
out.
I
think
quite
handsome
the
that,
though
you
would
have
a
little
jam
extension
here
again.
Hardy
hardy
board
trim
around
the
entire
project.
I
Corner
boards,
large
five
and
a
half
inch
corner
boards-
all
I
think,
which
are
synonymous
with
the
district.
I
The
porch
material,
the
the
front
of
the
porch
here,
of
course,
we
have
a
dimensional
shingle
roof.
We
have
a
hearty
wrapped
with,
with
with
a
basin
and
a
cap,
columns
triples
and
doubles.
The
the
porch
itself
is
is
a
concrete
porch.
It's
a
smooth,
finished
concrete
porch
with
with
some
shared
stairs
at
the
front
and
a
little
a
little
detail
with
a
lip
so
that
the
stucco
dies
into
that
lip
and
doesn't
just
end
at
the
top
of
the
porch,
which
I
don't
think
I
have
one
that
shows
exactly
that.
I
D
Presentation
is
complete.
Is
there
any
public
comment
for
this
project
hearing
none
and
seeing
none.
I
E
B
C
M
A
I
M
G
Kumari
pedestal
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
this
is
not
a
rezoning.
This
is
just
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
right,
right.
I
B
F
Miss
floyd
can
we
see
your
site
plan?
Please.
C
F
The
single
visitor
parking
space
that
you're
proposing
is
that
just
street
parking.
F
I
M
C
M
As
a
screening,
we
removed
that
because
of
the
setback,
and
it
just
didn't
look
right,
but
you
know
what
landscaping
screen
would
be
typical
and
normal.
I
think
of
the
neighborhood.
F
D
I
We
have
a
pretty
narrow
lot,
it's
only
56
feet
wide
and
also
because
we're
a
multi-family
development
just
didn't
seem
practical
and
then
also
multiple
corners
again
of
this
particular
lot.
Don't
really
have
any
any
wraparound,
porches
and
well.
Three
of
them
are
commercial,
so
it
just
didn't
seem
appropriate.
D
F
E
And
with
the
massing
I
mean,
there's
still
quite
a
bit
of
massing
here,
but
again,
we've
done
a
great
job
of
the
you.
E
If
we
go
with
fencing,
I
mean
I
don't
I'd
lean
towards
a
more
of
a
wrought
iron.
Look,
that's
not
really
screening!
So
that's
why
I'm
kind
of
leaning
towards
a
softer
and
because
of
the
dimensions
that
we're
looking
at
here
and
the
reveals
that
we're
seeing
or
may
not
see
actually
from
the
street.
I
just
feel
like
the
landscaping,
maybe
just
a
cleaner,
softer
look
other
than
that.
E
C
D
I
concur
with
that.
I
think
this
is
a
a
tremendous
step
forward.
I
think
you
guys
really
pegged
down
the
whole
nature
of
what
was
an
appropriate
big
mass
in
this
context
of
this
neighborhood.
I
think
you've
really
brought
that
down
to
earth.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
G
Kamaria
pettis
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
I
believe
the
applicant
stated
that
he's
doing
a
design
exception
for
the
handicap
parking,
so
that
should
be
a
condition
if
the
board
is
choosing
to
do
a
motion
to
approve
the
certificate
of
appropriateness,
a
condition
about
the
design
exception
application.
It's.
I
F
D
I
Yeah
so
there's
again
technically
two,
the
lot
averaging,
which
is
really
done
here
and
is
technically
a
design
exception,
so
I
applied
for
it
as
part
of
the
thing
and
then
the
second
one
is
the
vehicular
visitor
space.
The
third
one
does
not
apply
now
with
the
new
new
design,
and
that's
it.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
clarification
again.
The
same
problem,
lots
of
different
words
go
out
and
yeah
in
one
ear
out
the
other
ear
or
slightly
different
ways
of
perceiving
what
they
actually
mean.
Okay,
we
will
reclose
this
public
hearing
and
the
commissioners
will
continue.
Do
I
have
a
motion
or
against
this
project
at
this
time.
B
B
B
Due
to
the
project
massing
its
detailing
and
right,
material.
H
H
The
contributing
structure
is
one
of
the
oldest
structure
in
tampa
heights.
It
dates
back
to
the
1890s.
The
zoning
classification
is
rm24.
The
request
this
evening
is
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
new
construction.
This
is
for
the
accessory
structure,
with
some
site
improvements
moving
to
the
photo
presentation.
H
H
This
is
an
overhead
shot
showing
the
grand
home
is
referred
to,
sometimes
as
a
red
roof
house.
You'll
see
that
through
the
photos
that
I
show
the
access
and
the
motor
court
is
on
the
south
side
of
the
property
and
then
the
alley
just
below
that
to
the
south.
Once
again,
this
is
on
the
corner
of
ross
and
morgan
street.
H
H
H
H
H
And
just
the
condition
of
the
alley
that
abuts
it
once
again,
the
alleys
that
we've
seen
tonight
are
have
been
improved
and
they
do
function
as
part
of
the
grid
as
it
originally
intended.
So
that's
a
plus
for
the
neighborhood.
Having
said
that,
that
concludes
the
photo
presentation.
I
have
mr
schuler
address
the
board
once
again.
I
I
I
And
then
the
other
other
picture
that's
to
even
give
context
to
them.
We
showed
you
the
site
plan
is
this:
is
an
existing
drive
at
one
time
I've
lived
in
heights
now
for
23
years
about
20
years
ago.
There
was
a
garage
here.
I
don't
think
it
was
a
historic
garage,
but
it
was
in
the
exact
same
location,
there's
still
a
slab
of
where
that
garage
was
previously.
I
The
garage
was
in
bad
shape
and
was
torn
down
about
15
years
ago
or
right
around
when
templates
became
a
historic
district.
All
this
fencing
is
is
beautiful.
We're
going
to
propose
to
take
down
just
these
two
pilasters
and
put
the
garage
right
at
the
end
of
what
the
current
drive
is
or
where
the
previous
garage
had
been
located.
I
We're
going
to
do
a
single
story
accessory
structure,
it's
going
to
again
be
in
line
generally
with
this
driveway,
because
we
are
over
the
750
square
foot
maximum
excess
structure,
because
we
are
in
an
rm24
zoning.
We
get
15,
so
15
of
5000
square
feet.
This
lot
is
like
four
times
that,
but
by
requirements
this
accessory
structure,
if
it's
more
than
750
square
feet,
has
to
be
primary
structure,
setbacks.
I
D
I
I
Large
partial,
large
partial.
Also,
this
retains
kind
of
how
the
how
the
site
works
currently,
which
is
again
parking
to
the
south,
access
to
the
front
access
to
the
rear.
I
Sorry
again,
a
this
is
going
to
be
red,
standing
sea
metal
roof.
It's
going
to
have
very
similar
detailing
on
their
gable
ends.
We
can
look
back
if
we,
if
we
need
to
we're,
not
going
to
be
quite
as
as
high
pitched
it's
just
not
practical
and
or
normal
for
an
accessory
structure
to
have
a
12
12
pitch.
This
is
going
to
be
an
a12
which
is
still
very,
very
good
pitch,
just
just
not
12
12..
It's
all.
It's
all
compatible
with
with
the
existing,
of
course,
we're
on
grade.
I
I
We
would
build
this
out
of
concrete
block
perfect
for
for
a
garage.
It
would
be
clapped
completely
with
with
hardy
board,
wouldn't
even
know
it.
It
was
out
of
cmu
we'd,
keep
the
hardy
board
up
about
six,
six
inches
or
so
from
grade.
We
would
put
some
stucco
along
that
exposed
portion
of
the
of
the
foundation
again
typical
detailing
that
we've
used.
Previously,
we
would
we're
going
to
have
block.
We
have
more
room,
we
inset
the
windows
again
similar
where
we
have
a
two
two
inch
inset.
I
A
a
a
a
a
double
window
with
with
enough
room
to
show
that
it
would
have
a
weighted
pocket
and
typical
typical
details.
I
I
These
windows
are
painted
black,
so
they
don't
really
show
up
very
good
on
pictures
but
they're
one
over
one
windows
and
and
it's
hard
to
see
them
they
do
have
obviously
stork
house
have
screens
on
them.
So
it
makes
it
even
even
harder
to
see
these
are
historic
screens
but
again
similar
detailing
around
the
wind
around
the
gable.
There
is
what
we're
employing
on
all
four
sides
of
this
garage,
not
just
on
the
front
and
all
the
other
detailing
in
the
way
of
the
hardy
board.
I
So,
just
just
to
clarify
so
we
do.
This
does
not
have
exposure
after
tails
it
has
enclosed,
soffits
and
and
and
fascist,
which
would
matches
what
we
would
propose.
I
And
the
roof,
of
course,
is
going
to
be
a
standing,
seam
red
roof
lighting.
I
have
similar
lighting
to
it
to
what's
on
there
now,
which
is
wrought
iron.
I
have
all
my
on
my
other,
the
other
sheets,
what
the
lighting
would
look
like
and
then
again
also
the
the.
I
H
Good
evening,
commissioner
ron
villa
staff
with
historic,
preservations
staff's
finding
that
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
tampa
heights
design
guidelines
within
some
discussion.
Additional
item
that
the
details
on
the
new
gate
on
the
south
property
line
that
the
agent
could
provide
us
some
details
and
then,
if
this
is
to
go
forward,
he
was
lacking
some
details
on
the
hardware
and
the
lighting
that
those
could
be
approved
by
staff
and
I'll
be
here
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you.
D
Please
excuse
me:
we
open
the
floor
for
public
comment.
Hearing
none
seeing
none.
We
will
continue.
Commissioners
will
now
ask
questions.
Please.
Would
you
like
to
start.
C
F
Is
there
was
there
any
consideration
given
to
pushing
the
garage
toward
the
rear
of
the
property.
I
Yeah,
so
I
we
did
look
at
many
many
options
of
where
this
was
going
to
go,
and
I
think,
for
a
couple
of
reasons,
this
was
the
right
spot.
First
and
foremost,
we
have
a
very
significant
fence
that
runs
around
this
property.
It's
it's
not
a
cheap
fence.
I
mean
it's,
it's
all
real
brick,
railroad
iron,
six
feet
tall
it's
and
to
push
this
back
or
push
it
forward.
It
just
seemed
like
the
right
spot.
Was
it
to
be
online
with
that
fence
and
then
also
this
gate
is
existing.
I
This
would
be
a
new
gate.
That
is
true.
That
would
be
done
similarly,
but
so
for
that
reason
and
for
the
existing
concrete
drive
and
because
it's
still
behind
the
main
facade
of
this
house,
we
felt
that
this
was
an
appropriate
location
for.
I
That
is
just
access.
He
doesn't
currently
have
to
get
a
riding
lawnmower
in
into
the
property,
and
it
would
be
off
of
the
alley.
I
Yeah
we
will
mimic
the
existing
fencing,
which
is
again
vertical
picket
wrought
iron,
fencing.
I
So
I
have
not
surveyed
the
exact
house
to
the
to
the
extent
of
detailing
every
window,
but
the
the
traditional
wood
structure.
It
has.
Wood
windows
and
the
wood
windows,
of
course,
by
their
nature,
have
a
little
bit
of
a
recess
to
them.
So
we're
trying
to
mimic
mimic
that,
but
do
it
in
a
contemporary
way,
in
that
the
current
accessory
structure
would
be
built
with
contemporary
materials,
things
that
don't
rot
like
like
wood.
D
F
G
D
B
I
have
a
question
about
the
slab
in
the
guest
bedroom.
Okay,
it
seems
to
it
seems
to
be
the
same
at
the
same
level
as
the
garage,
but
but
normally
that's
not
what
we
see.
I
Yeah,
so
I
don't
know
what
the
exact
finish
floor
of
this
is
for
code.
Yet
I'll
be
honest,
so
we
are
required
to
be.
You
know,
12
inches
for
the
for
the
for
the
above,
the
crown
of
the
road
for
the
garage
and
18
for
for
the
structure
which
we
may
be
high
enough
again.
This
has
some
that
this
could
all
be
at
18
and
we'd
probably
make
it
flat.
If
it's
not
by
code
required,
then
we
would.
I
I
Well,
I
mean
they're,
pretty
avid
they
would
want
a
metal
ganking
roof.
Are
they
they're?
Not
here?
I
haven't
I've
been
asking
if
they
have
to
be
able
to
propose
an
alternative,
but
the
answer
is,
I
would
think
we
probably
know.
B
Is
that
a
painted
surface
on
that
roof?
It
looks
it
doesn't
look
like
a
standard
color
to
me.
I
C
D
I
have
a
question,
sir,
on
the
forward
placing
of
the
structure
your
proposal
is
to
place
that,
within
that
existing
fence
line,
taking
out
whatever
pilasters
are
necessary
or
whatever
the
way
I
read
this
is,
I
see
pilosters
on
one
side,
one
side
on
the
other.
How
do
you,
how
do
you
plan
on
closing
those
gaps
and
how
do
you
plan
on
actually
terminating
that
at
the
building
phase
right
so.
I
The
the
goal
would
be
for
that
fencing
to
to
die
in
on
the
the
corner
boards
of
each
one
of
those
to
two
ends,
so
that
would
be
secured.
I
I
Probably
right,
I'm
sorry
we'll
put
it
right
here.
I
You
think
I
would
remember,
but
I
think
I
think
it's
on
the
outside
of
the
fence.
Yes
looks
like
it
yesterday.
I
Again,
the
owners-
I
had
a
very
good
discussion
against
where
the
placement
of
this
garage
really
wanted
to
be
and,
and
they
felt
and
I've-
I
agreed
with
them
that
this
was
the
best
location
for
this
large
lot.
I
understand
if
this
was
a
much
smaller
lot,
or
this
was
a
lot
that
was
more
typical
of
a
rhythm
in
hyde
park
or
other
places
where
alleys
I'm
sorry,
where
garages
are
set
far
back,
that
dump.
That
would
maybe
be
deemed
more
appropriate,
but
this
is
a
for
lack
of
a
lot,
a
luxury
lot.
I
It's
you
know,
and
it's
this
this
alley,
while
paved
to
some
degree,
really
isn't
that
that
well
improved.
They
really
wanted
the
security
of
getting
in
and
out
on
their
own
private
property
and
and
getting
in
and
out
of
of
the
garage
and
the
function
that
they
felt.
That
was
appropriate
that
this
was
the
best
place
for
this
garage.
D
E
Probably
far
enough
that
the
gate
still
is
functioning
and
cars
can
park
within
that
between
the
accessory
structure
and
the
gate
something's
just
for
me,
the
way
it's
tied
into
the
fence
just
seems
off
the
last
comment
about
the
garage
door
facing
the
alley
versus
morgan.
E
E
C
F
F
We
have
other
opportunities
either
to
place
it
behind
the
the
prominent
fence
that
we've
talked
about,
which
is
15
years
old
or
by
by
taking
the
garage
doors
off
of
the
primary
elevation.
F
I
I
don't
dictate
moving
it
all
the
way
to
the
back
corner.
I
think
they've
gotten.
I
would
if
this
was
my
property.
I'd
understand
wanting
to
be
able
to
maintain
our
rear
yard,
which
is
it's
sizable
right
now,
so
even
just
this
just
pushing
it
back
enough
that
we
we
keep
sort
of
the
the
rhythm
of
the
fencing
and
push
the
the
garage
doors
out
of
sort
of
that
primary
sight
line,
orienting
them
onto
an
alley
functioning
alley.
E
Or
sort
of
situation
and
keep
in
mind
if
you
were
to
remove
that
garage
to
the
rear
of
the
property
and
face
the
garage
door
to
the
alley,
you
still
you
don't
have
the
rear
yard,
but
you
still
have
a
lot
of
yard
there
on
the
side,
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
options
and
a
lot
of
opportunity
just
because
of
the
size
of
the
lot.
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
is.
E
D
D
I
think
that's
I'm
wondering
if
that's
in
there
or
if
it's
fallen
off
the
face
of
the
earth
because
it
you
know
this
roof
will
have
to
meet
those
window
criterias
for
a
new
structure-
and
you
know
we
know
we
know
standing
seams
and
the
5v
cribs
and
all
sorts
of
products
of
that
nature
are
available.
You
know,
as
as
part
of
the
the
florida
materials
approval
process,
but
the
niche
ones.
I
don't
know
about
that
one.
I.
B
I
feel
as
though
the
the
porch
has
this.
Is
it
actually
standing
seam?
Well,
I
can't
we
weird
no
longer,
okay,
so
the
porch.
So
if
you're
matching,
if
you're
matching
the
the
lower
slope
roof
material
on
the
porch,
I
think
that
we're
we
are
staying
within
the
historic
character
of
the
of
the
building.
It's
a
weird.
B
B
Then
you've
got
a
better
roofing
system
on
the
porch
with
a
lower
slope
and
it's
the
standing
seam,
I
think
the
standing
seam
is,
is
pretty
appropriate
for
the
for
the
accessory
building
and
also
they
do
they.
They
do
have
an
existing
driveway
where
they
have
been
parking
their
cars
for
a
long
time
and
that
existing
so
we're
just
putting
it
seems
like
we're,
putting
back
a
non-conforming
structure
but
we're
putting
that
that
structure
back
where
it
was.
B
C
B
Are
real
reasons
for
them
to
you
know,
to
put
it
back
where
it
was
at
least
you
know
after
1950
or
wherever,
whatever
it
was.
B
There
was
a
photograph,
yeah
excuse
me
ron
was
there,
you
had
a
historic
photograph
of
that
house
from.
E
B
B
C
E
Structure-
and
I
think
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
fighting
with
myself
here
is:
not
only
is
it
standing
seem
and
gonna
look,
but
it's
also
very
red,
and
so-
and
it
looks
great
I
mean
you
know-
I
don't
have
any
issues
with
the
color.
I
just
the
accessory
structures,
we're
almost
trying
to
hide
this
back
there
like
it's,
not
there
and
I
just
feel
like
we're,
bringing
because
of
where
it's
sitting.
D
Well,
I'm
also
looking
at
this
plan
as
well
too,
with
respect
to
that
it'd
be
nice
if
we
can
have
two
screens
up,
because
if
you
looked
at
the
elevation
from
the
morgan
street,
as
we
had
seen
from
the
photograph
and
think
about
what's
happening
along
that
background,
where
you
see
the
vehicles
parked
the
basic
front
line
of
this
new
mass,
if
you
will,
this
new
garage
is
going
to
be
online
with
the
back
line
of
the
porch.
D
So
what
we
see
in
the
photograph
today
is
a
very
nice
verdant,
green
garden
situation
with
a
fence,
and
now
the
proposal
will
be
for
a
garage
door
and
an
orange
roof,
a
red
roof,
which
is,
I
mean,
I
mean
we're
talking
about
making
it
fit
with
the
house,
which
is
fine,
but
the
thought
about.
Can
we
move
this
back?
E
E
Rear
actually
yeah,
there
was
multiple
but
actually
and
looks
like
in
this
location.
F
E
C
I
So
I
hear
everything
you
said:
I
really
do
so.
If
we
push
the
structure
back
and
push
it
back,
you
tell
me
I
mean
I
I
if
we
could
leave
the
garage,
I'm
sorry
not
to
drop
the
the
wrought
iron
fencing
there.
We
leave
the
two
pile
pie
lasters
there
that
that
that
wrought
iron
fencing
will
just
disguise
this
structure
to
a
large
degree.
I
C
I
The
same,
we'll
just
push
the
structure
back,
push
it
back
again,
I'm
open
to
to
what
you
think
the
right
number
is,
I
think,
obviously,
five
feet's
not
enough
20
feet
might
be
too
much,
but
I'm
hoping
for
for
an
open
discussion
on
what
the
right
number
is.
But
I
know
my
clients
are
absolutely
not
in
favor
of
a
structure
that
comes
off
an
alley
or
or
comes
off
of
a
property.
They
have
a
large
piece
of
property.
I
Again,
I
don't
know
what
the
year
that
the
structure
that
was
there
was
built
I,
but
it
was
an
older
structure,
it
was
wood
in
and
it
was
demolished
because
it
was
you
know,
old
age
doesn't
meet
the
1925
sanborn,
it's
not
on
there.
I
I
get
it,
but
I
think
moving
the
structure
back,
leaving
this
garden
aesthetic
in
place.
I
think
is
a
great
compromise.
A
D
A
decision
to
be
made
between
the
designer
and
the
owner,
I
think
the
the
idea
that
we
want
to
have
more
of
a
forecourt
here
to
allow
the
landscape
to
soften
the
fence,
worked
to
soften
the
impact
of
this
building
on
the
front
of
morgan
street,
because
we
already
have
a
dedicated,
driveway
and
parking
situation
here.
How
much
they
want
to
move
that
into
what
effect
I
think
has
yet
to
be
determined.
D
F
D
F
F
I
I'll
propose
16
feet,
which
is
the
minimum
size
parking
parking.
D
And
at
that
nature
proposal,
then,
would
you
be
inclined
to
have
a
continuation.
A
Is
definitely
all
up
to
him,
commissioners,
dennis
fernandez,
architecture,
review
and
historic
preservation
manager.
I
would
encourage,
if
there's
some
latitude
with
dimensional
requirements,
that
that
either
be
discussed
and
delegated
to
staff.
This
case
would
be
continued
into
january.
At
this
point,
based
on
our
current
schedule,.
C
F
Agreed
and,
and
I
think
that
his
his
statement
before
was
that
the
desire
is
not
completely.
D
Okay,
at
this
point
now
we
close
public
hearing.
We
will
continue
our
discussion
okay,
so
we
have
a
number
of
not
necessarily
conflicting,
that
we
have
a
variety
of
different
thoughts
on
where
this
building
should
be
with
respect
to
the
alley,
the
front
line,
the
front
apron,
the
nature
of
landscape,
all
of
that
sort
of
stuff.
D
D
B
And
it
is
hey,
I
think
it's
expeditious,
and
I
I
completely
I-
and
this
did
not
occur
to
me
when
I
was
reviewing
this
project
previously,
but
it
appears
as
though
there
are
very
few
of
these
accessory
structures.
There
are
very
few
garage
doors
that
face
on
morgan.
F
I
F
I
B
There
are
very
few
of
these
I'll
look
at
you,
so
there
are
very
few
of
these
garage
stories
on
morgan
and
so
to
move.
It
back
makes
great
sense.
B
However,
I
think
it's
something
that
that
staff
can
can
handle
very
well
and
that
you
know
we
have
qualified
design
professional
involved
here
and
we've
got
owners
who
have
have
consistently.
It
seems
tried
to
do
the
right
thing,
so
I
think
we
can
perhaps
make
that
a
condition.
I
would
I
would
like
it
to
be
a
condition.
E
E
E
D
So
what
we're
looking
at
really
is
is
you
know,
we're
we're
going
to
be
asking
staff
to
work
very
closely
with
the
applicant
and
the
owner
so
that
this
proposed
structure
be
moved
more
into
an
easterly
direction.
D
For
the
purposes
of
of
of
to
provide
a
greater
degree
of
shielding
of
the
structure
to
from
the
morgan
street
elevation,
as
well
as
to
provide
a
greater
separation
of
the
accessory
structures
front
from
the
very
ornate
front
of
the
existing
original
dwelling.
E
B
B
Okay,
I
move
to
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
at
this
public
hearing
in
arc
21-485
for
the
property
located
at
2008
north
morgan
street,
with
the
following
conditions,
because,
based
upon
the
finding
effect,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
tampa
heights.
Historic
district
design,
guidelines
of
the
city
of
tampa.
B
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
I
missed
my.
I
skipped
the
conditions.
Excuse
me:
property
located
at
2008,
north
morgan
street,
with
the
following
conditions
that
hardware
and
lighting
be
approved
by
staff
and
the,
and
that
the
accessory
structure
be
moved
west
to
maintain
the
character
of
morgan
street,
the
openness
of
the
line
and
to
not
just
and
to
not
detract
from
the
quality
of
the
contributing
structure,
because,
based
upon
the
on
the
finding
of
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
tampa
heights.
B
D
I
hereby
close
this
hearing.