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B
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D
E
E
D
Good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
special
cra
meeting,
my
name
is
joseph
feature
and
I
am
the
chair
and
I
will
be
conducting
this
meeting.
May
we
have
invocation,
we
don't
have
an
invocation,
but
may
I
ask
everyone?
That's
president,
president,
to
please
rise.
D
C
D
I
Since
this
is
a
joint
meeting
of
both
the
cra
and
the
east
tampa
cac,
I
believe
you
have
a
roster
of
the
cac
members.
Could
you
determine
whether
we
have
a
physical
forum
available
for
the
cac
at
this
point?.
I
D
I
The
purpose
of
this
joint
meeting
is
to
allow
for
an
open
dialogue
between
the
cra
and
the
cac
to
discuss
issues
related
to
community
redevelopment
efforts
in
the
east
tampa
community
development
area.
While
it's
been
noticed
as
a
special
call
meeting,
this
meeting
is
anticipated
to
be
more
of
a
listening
and
learning
session
by
both
bodies.
The
chair
of
the
meeting
will
be
the
chair
of
the
cra,
mr
citro.
I
There
has
been
a
roll
call.
We
have
a
physical
quorum
of
both
bodies.
This
is
required
by
state
law
and
the
attorney
general
opinions.
We
will
provide
for
public
participation
for
persons
who
are
not
a
member
of
the
cac
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
It's
generally
limited
to
three
minutes
per
person
in
accordance
with
the
cra
rules,
and
that
would
include
participation
by
members
of
the
public
by
way
of
communication,
media
technology
or
cmt.
I
I
Then
the
cac
members
who
wish
to
address
the
cra
on
that
particular
agenda
item
will
proceed
to
the
podium
on
the
chambers
and
address
the
cra
members
here.
Cra
members
may
ask
questions
of
both
the
cac
members
who
are
participating
in
and
giving
testimony
and
staff
staff
will
be
permitted
to
respond
to
questions
posed
by
both
the
cra
and
cac
members.
I
Cac
members
will
also
be
permitted
to
address
the
cra
on
issues
that
are
not
expressly
included
on
the
agenda
under
other
items.
At
the
end
of
the
agenda
it
stated
this
is
intended
to
be
a
discussion,
a
learning
session
session,
more
akin
to
a
workshop.
Therefore,
I
would
recommend
official
action
be
limited
tonight.
However,
the
member
of
the
cra
desires
to
make
a
motion,
I
would
recommend
they
do
so
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
and
really
only
motions
of
the
cra
board
will
be
considered
tonight.
I
This
is
more
for
the
cac
to
provide
their
input
to
the
cra
board
and
then
for
the
cra
board
to
perhaps
take
action,
but
depending
on
what
the
communications
transpire
tonight.
So
if
those
special
rules
are
acceptable
to
the
bodies,
I
would
ask
for
you
to
waive
your
normal
rules
and
and
both
agree
to
comply
with
the
rules
that
I.
I
All
in
favor
aye
aye
all
right.
I
believe
we,
we
are
all
in
agreement
as
to
the
rules,
and
so
I
will
let
mr
mcrae
or
miss
travis
introduced
the
first
item.
But
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
east
tampa
strategic
action
plan,
update
and
concerns
regarding
the
content
of
the
draft
sap
and
then
additional
requested
services
by
the
consultant
and
payment
for
those
services.
So
there's.
D
D
She
has
overseen
the
construction
of
robert
cole
senior
pond
north
22nd
roundabout
construction,
repaving
new
sidewalks
in
east
tampa
she
directly
served
the
residents
and
the
businesses
of
east
tampa
drew
park
west
tampa.
Michelle
was
instrumental
in
developing
the
facade
grant
and
coordinating
more
than
150
approved
grants.
D
D
N
D
O
Any
comments
on
the
motion:
I'm
gonna
vote,
no
because
I
think
it
should
be
a
sierra
staff
person
instead
of
a
city
staff
person.
So
we
have,
we
have
a
whole
bunch
of
cra
staff,
people
that
we
can
choose
from
right.
I
also
say,
while
I
have
the
floor,
is
that
we
need
to
in
the
last
time
it
seemed
like
the
city
pushed
the
decision
on
us
and
this
time
we
need
to
find
somebody
who
meets
our
criteria,
who
we
can
work
with
and
will
work
closely
with
us.
O
So
with
that,
should
we
take
a
roll.
P
Thank
you
to
your
point,
how
long
mr
chairman,
or
nicole
or
whoever
it
could
be,
do
you
anticipate,
maybe
being
an
interim,
I
mean
how?
How
long
does
this
body
think
you
know
that
we'll
take
to
september
october.
I
If
the
cra
is
unhappy
with
the
services
that
are
provided
by
the
cra
director,
the
contract
provides
that
notice
would
be
provided
to
the
city
and
then
there's
a
six
month
period
for
us
to
try
to
find
someone
that
is
acceptable
to
the
cra.
That's
generally,
what
the
services
agreement
provides.
So
there's
a
there's,
probably
six
months
or
less,
I
think,
left
in
the
calendar
year.
N
I
don't
think
so
sure
I
respectfully
disagree
so
council,
nicole
travis
administrative
development
and
economic
opportunity.
One
of
the
reasons
I
spoke
to
councilman
teacher
earlier
once
learning
of
miss
van
long's
resignation,
but
she
is
moving
into
my
portfolio
into
a
different
role.
I
have
extensive
background
in
cras
and
redevelopment
one
of
the
reasons
why
mayor
castor,
recruited
me
to
come
to
work
for
the
city
of
tampa.
N
I
don't
believe
this
is
taking
you
back
we're
not
taking
over
the
director
position,
I'm
simply
offering
my
services
and
my
expertise
to
fill
the
gap
until
council
decides
at
the
end
of
the
service
level
agreement
or
during
that
period
of
time.
If
you
want
to
recruit
for
a
director
position
or
not,
if
it's
working,
I
am
simply
offering
my
services,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
us
and
I
just
want
to
make
the
point
that
cra
staff
is
city
staff
and
there's
a
lot
one
of
the
things
coming
in
here.
N
P
Glad
two
things
that
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up,
because
we
do
have
a
member
who's
absent
who
represents
most
of
the
cras
as
a
district
member
number.
One
number
two.
However,
your
point
is
while
taking
councilman
carlson
with
regards
to
the
the
issue
that
that
you
know
we
want
the
cra
person
to
be.
You
know
with
the
cra
and
not
staff.
That
being
said,
I
mean
with
with
with
miss
travis.
I
I'm
more
than
willing
to
you
know,
trust
her
based
upon
our
conversations
and
and
whatnot.
D
Q
Councilmember
goods
is
on
his
way
here,
wait
until
he
shows
up,
I
mean
at
least
on
that
vote.
What
do.
O
How
do
we
do
that?
Just.
I
M
D
M
R
Before
we
table
it,
I
mean
everyone's
been
talking
about
taking
miss
travis,
taking
this
position,
and
I
think
that
I
spoke
with
her
earlier
today
and
tried
to
get
to
know
as
I
learn
more
about
the
cra
system
and
her
experience,
but
not
only
her
not
only
that
her
experience
with
lakeland,
but
also
what
she
has
said
about
how
she's
been
working
with
the
current
community
and
building
some
bridges
and
some
trust,
and
I'm
hoping
that
in
this
interim
period,
it
can
just
continue.
R
So
I
I
will
vote
for
her
in
that.
Believing
that
continuing
to
build
bridges
and
trust
is
a
good
idea.
O
O
I
just
think
that
the
cra
should
be
separate,
and
one
of
the
issues
we've
had
is
is:
is
the
independence
of
it
and
we
we
have
a
situation
where
press
conferences
were
set
up
with
without
the
chair
even
being
invited
or
when
the
chair
was
not
available,
and
if
you
can
help
resolve
those
problems,
we've
got
a
room
full
of
people
who
are
upset,
or
some
some
are
upset
because
they
feel
like
an
enough
focus,
hasn't
been
put
on
getting
things
done,
and
so
I
I
I
think
if
we
end
up
doing
this,
that
it
should
be
like
30
or
60
days
to
find
a
replacement,
but
we
have
staff
internally.
O
Okay,
all
in
favor
motion
passes
ma'am,
so
I
hand
the
devil
back.
D
E
My
name
is
rick
kugler.
I
live
in
east
tampa
on
the
englewood
block
and
three
things
I'd
like
to
see
in
in
our
east
tampa
just
three
items.
One
is
I'd,
love
to
see
safer,
cleaner
bike
paths
through
and
around
east
tampa,
so
that
we
can
all
navigate
our
neighborhood
and
and
no
broken
glass.
That's
one
thing:
I'd
love
to
see,
get
rid
of
that
I'd
like
to
see
quieter,
more
peaceful
streets
where
neighbors
know
the
quiet
hours
in
every
24
hour
cycle.
E
If
someone
needs
to
blast
sound
past
10
pm,
it's
fine
but
just
get
headphones.
I
know
some
people
are
using
that
as
regular
at
regular
bars
up
north.
E
E
If
someone
regularly
ignores
the
slower
speed
limit
in
our
in
our
hood,
I
think
they
need
to
be
shown
where
the
race
track
is
there's
way
too
much
racing
going
through
our
neighborhood
high
speed,
chases
and
and
it's
for
fun,
that's
what
a
racetrack
is
for,
but
not
our
neighborhood.
E
And
I
think
also,
we
need
to
focus
on
our
spending.
Our
funds
in
east
tampa
not
in
other
neighborhoods,
and
I
and
I'm
I'm
concerned
from
what
I've
seen
that
that's
what
that's?
What
has
happened
historically
and
again,
we
get
cheated
of
the
funds
that
really
should
be
going
to
us.
But
please
don't
take
my
words.
I'm
just
a
retired
person
has
a
lot
of
time
to
go
to
these
meetings
and
there
are
lots
of
us
that
can
come
to
these
meetings
that
aren't
necessarily
working.
C
C
C
I
haven't
been
to
a
meeting,
yet
I'm
still
trying
to
find
out
if
they
have
public
meetings.
I
remember
seeing
a
news
article
recently
about
a
roof
getting
repaired
and
I
was
looking
into
that
article.
I
noticed
that
this
man,
robert
gruber,
doesn't
even
live
in
east
tampa.
He
lives
over
near
the
zoo,
the
lowry
park
zoo,
I'm
not
really
sure
how
grant
money
works
in
east
tampa,
but
I
guess
if
money
is
getting
spent
elsewhere
outside
of
the
borders
of
east
tampa,
and
I
think
that
might
need
to
be
addressed.
C
S
Good
evening
mona
judge,
I
don't
even
know
where
to
start
with
the
cra,
I
was
on
the
board
under
natasha
for
two
years
and
we
don't
even
really
have
to
be
here
because
most
of
you
guys
was
here,
you
know
what
has
been
going
on.
You
know
that
east
tampa
haven't
gotten
anything
really
done.
We
from
the
time
I
was
there.
S
I
know
we
got
the
tree
trimming
grant
and
when
we
want
to
change
up
the
tree
trimming
grant
that's
when
everything
stopped
when
we
want
to
say
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
contractors
inside
of
east
tampa
be
able
to
get
these
these
bids.
It
was
a
problem
I
came
in
at
the
end,
and
I
know
you,
michelle
has
resigned,
I'm
not
sure
what,
but
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
is
I'm
agreeing
with
councilman
carson,
because
it
is
like
our
staff,
really
don't
make
the
decisions.
S
S
The
people
know
what
they
want
under
we've
had
three
different
chairs
in
the
last
four
years,
and
it's
they
all
want
the
same
thing:
we're
not
stupid,
we're
not,
and
if
we
are
frustrated,
we
have
a
damn
bike
to
be
frustrated,
because
I'm
frustrated,
because
I
have
to
get
off
from
work
to
try
to
get
down
here.
For
this,
you
guys
know
what
the
problem
is.
S
S
A
housing
rfp
under
connie
and
to
this
day
it
has
not
gone
through,
that's
just
unacceptable,
and
then
you
look
at
us
as
if
we
don't
know
what
we're
doing
we're
supposed
to
tell
the
staff
what
we
want
and
they're
supposed
to
figure
out
how
we
get
it
but
under
connie,
and
I
think
it
was
denise
pate.
They
wrote
up
the
rfp,
they
presented
it
to
you
and
we
haven't
heard
anything
all
right.
Thank
you.
C
Good
evening,
kela
mccaskill
no
problem
as
a
volunteer
as
a
community
member
as
a
realtor
and
being
a
part
of
the
cac,
I'm
very
concerned
with
this
east
tampa
cac
or
cra.
Whichever
acronym
part
of
me
sharing
the
list
of
concerns,
I
want
to
point
out
that
the
mir
the
observations
that
I've
had
over
the
last
couple
years
demonstrated
that
we
didn't
have
a
director
that
had
the
best
interest
for
the
people
represented
in
this
district.
C
In
fact,
they
seem
rather
frustrated
with
the
people,
as
opposed
to
being
willing
with
the
willingness
to
move
forward,
and
you
can
fact
check
that
by
looking
at
your
cra
updates
when
they're
given
there's
a
different
disposition.
There's
a
different
demeanor
there's
excitement
when
sharing
the
projects
as
they
move
forward
and
the
other
cras
that
they
oversee,
but
it's
different
quite
different
when
they're
discussing
east
tampa,
I'm
going
to
give
you
an
example
of
that,
just
I
would
say,
january
20th.
Councilman
miranda
specifically
requested
from
michelle
van
loan.
C
I
know
she's
resigned,
but
it's
relevant
we're
from
michelle
van
loan
a
memo
with
a
comparison
of
the
accomplishments
within
the
cras
that
she
represent.
In
comparison
to
east
tampa,
instead
of
providing
that
she
came
with
an
offensive
powerpoint
describing
with
adjectives
describing
the
people,
not
what
he
asked
for,
he
wanted
a
list
of
comparison
of
your
accomplishments.
What
you've
done
he
wanted
to
make
sure
we're
spread
out
between
them
all
the
same.
The
activities,
your
interest.
All
of
that
it's
different.
C
We
still
don't
have
that
update,
but
we
saw
that
aggressive
that
racial
disrespectful
powerpoint
on
last
thursday.
At
your
last
update
as
a
member
like
I
said
when,
when
I
look
at
this,
we
still
don't
have
that
update
and
in
the
vein
of
the
focus
that
the
mayor
set
with
transparency
and
accountability.
I
have
a
few
more
examples.
C
During
the
last
year,
update
cedric,
mcrae
shared
that
bloomberg
consultations
began.
This
board
has
asked,
over
and
over
again
to
have
a
consultant
develop
consultant,
familiar
with
affordable
housing
and
that
dynamic
didn't
happen.
Instead,
they
presented
to
you
never
to
this
body,
but
you
can
ask
them
when
they
get
here.
This
body
never
knew
about
bloomberg
until
last
thursday.
C
Why
would
you
bring
a
consultant
in
when
we've
asked
you
multiple
times?
Councilman
gould
at
gootz
has
asked
from
this
diet
multiple
times
for
a
developer
consultant.
Michelle
said
urban
planner.
He
said
we
don't
want
an
urban
planner.
We
want
to
develop
a
consultant.
So
my
point
is
that's
an
example.
Another
one
was
with
the
infrastructure.
The
press
release
was
done
on
april
11..
That
means
they
had
already
had
conversations.
The
speaker
said
they
had
already
spoke
with
east
tampa
cac.
That's
huge!
C
Nine
million
seven
million
dollars
going
into
east
temple
is
huge
for
the
small
businesses
they
could
get
opportunities
available
to
them.
We
knew
nothing
about
it.
We
found
out
at
a
press
conference.
There
seems
to
be.
You
know
that
they
get
very
defensive
when
we
try
to
bring
up
concerns
instead
in
a
fight
to
be
right
versus
a
fight
to
do
what's
right
for
the
community.
The
last
thing
is
that
strategic
action
plan
do
we
have
to
accept
the
sub-par
plan
because
we're
in
east
tampa.
Nobody
else
has
that
type
of
a
plan.
C
I
asked
legal
to
review
the
contract
review
the
2009
sap
and
review
that
subpar
unacceptable
plan
that
we
received,
compare
it
to
the
other
cacs
see
if
they
would
accept
that
and
the
request
never
made
it
to
legal.
Until
I
had
to
send
it
myself,
we
don't
trust
the
staff,
we
didn't
trust
michelle.
We
need
somebody
to
intervene
and
make
sure
what
we're
asking
for
is
moving
forward.
The
next
request
will
be
with
the
media
as
to
why
we
can't
move
forward
in
east
tampa.
E
I've
been
in
the
area
since
I
was
five
years
old,
basically
with
the
partnership
I
came
in
about
two
or
three
years
when
it
started
well
there.
I
can
understand
the
frustration
that
the
boards
and
everybody
else
have
with
michelle
van
lorne.
She
was
instrumental
in
tearing
down
what
was
an
executive
board.
The
partnership
was
an
executive
board
and
she
made
sure
that
that
board
was
turned
into
what
we
have
now
at
the
cac.
E
This
is
what
the
city
of
tampa
wanted
corporate
takeover,
so
they
didn't
want
us
to
just
incorporate
it
into
our
bylaws.
They
wanted
us
to
change
our
bylaws,
who
makes
a
private
entity
change
their
bylaws.
E
E
E
Now
you
only
got
three
minutes
to
speak.
Everybody
don't
have
a
good
speech
or
what
have
you,
but
it's
one
thing
about
it:
everybody
pretty
much
understood
what
community
was
all
about,
but
you're
taking
that
away
and
when
it
comes
to
this
sap,
how
did
how
did
they
let
it
expire?
You
don't.
If
you
got
a
car,
you
don't
let
the
insurance
fire
and
just
say
it's
been
a
free
for
all,
is
what
happened.
E
F
In
reverse
order,
joe
robinson
taxpayer,
first
of
all,
thanks
for
your
service
michelle
very
long,
this
is
travis.
I've
been
knowing
her
since
2008,
I'm
from
imperial
polk
county
y'all,
didn't
know
that
ku
klux
klan
territory.
She
did
a
good
job
on
our
cras.
Let
me
just
say
this
from
my
experience
of
running
up
excellent
cra,
no
problems
with
an
attorney,
no
problems
with
staff,
really
no
problem
with
michelle
van
loan.
But
let
me
say
this:
each
tamper
and
everybody
needs
to
understand
it's
not
a
strategic
action
plan
that
runs
a
cra.
F
Is
it
mr
mark's
mastery?
It's
a
community
redevelopment
plan
that
runs
and
implements
the
cra,
not
a
strategic
plan.
The
c
the
statute
requires
a
community
redevelopment
plan
to
run
a
cra,
not
a
strategic
action
plan.
You
throw
that
in
the
garbage.
Can
this
is
this
community
redevelopment
plan
says:
may
2004
18
years
old,
if
you
got
a
new
one
around
here
for
east
tampa
wow,
good
god,
almighty
man.
It
takes
that
long
and
they
ain't
even
talking
about
updating
that
you're
sitting
here.
F
Talking
about
a
strategic
action
plan,
steve's
action
plan-
east
campus-
this
is
all
off
your
website,
but
you
got
something
early.
Let
me
know
2009
that
ain't
been
updated
2009,
but
why
would
you
do
the
action
plan
before
you
do
the
community
development
plan,
which
the
state
statute
requires
you
to
do
right?
Mr
morris
massey,
now
that's
process,
that's
problems.
I
think
mrs
travis
can
solve
them
with
given
time
to
do
so.
F
Let's
talk
about
the
west
side.
Why
is
the
west
side
different?
The
west
side
is
different
because
our
community
development
plan
was
may
2015
very
current
strategic
action
plan
notice.
It
came
after
the
community
development
plan.
2018.
see
you
get
your
priorities
straight
man.
Let
me
just
say
this
for
the
record,
with
one
minute
left:
constant
review
by
staff
and
cic
members.
This
is
what
makes
west
tampa
work.
We
constantly
review
with
staff
and
cac
members.
Robert's
rules
order.
F
Okay,
we
we
deal
with
the
florida
sunshine
act.
We
call
mr
morris
match
up
anytime.
We
get
ready
before
we
put
anything
in
front
of
anybody.
We
want
to
have
our
subcommittees,
look
at
it
and
we
want
our
subcommittee
to
get
an
attorney
to
look
at
it.
There
are
some
legal
rules
and
regulation.
The
community
development
plan
that
you
can
have
and
cannot
have.
Okay,
everything
is
transparent.
F
We
follow
our
crp.
If
it
ain't
in
the
crp,
you
don't
do
it
right.
Mr
massey,
you
don't
do
it.
That's
your
guiding
that
for
all
y'all
religious
people,
your
crp
is
your
bible.
So
you
better
go
to
bible,
study
and
learn
your
crp,
because
if
you
run
your
cip,
any
program
you
come
up
with
must
be
involved
in
it
and
with
my
last
five
seconds
then
I
gotta
go
over
and
make
a
deposit
in
the
credit
union
I'll
give
a
call
later.
C
Good
afternoon
allison
hewitt
4904
32nd
street
third
generation
east
tampa
resident
as
an
economic
development
specialist.
The
two
major
issues
that
are
a
challenge
for
east
tampa
is
processes,
as
you
know,
and
have
heard.
East
tampa
is
the
largest
cra
in
the
state
one
and
two
we
have
elections
every
year.
C
So
unless
there
are
processes
put
in
place,
applications
put
in
place,
you
have
new
people
who
come
in
every
year
and
so
new
people
are
allowed
to
say
we're
going
to
create
this
new
system,
and
so
you
put
the
largest
cra
in
the
state
at
a
disadvantage
when
there
are
no
processes
where
there's
no
continuousy
of
applications.
C
So
I
am
glad
that
processes
is
on
the
agenda
because
you
do
a
disservice
when
you
have
volunteers
from
the
community
who
have
no
economic
development
background
and
put
it
on
their
responsibility
to
change
their
community
by
creating
processes
that
they
are
not
from
government,
they
are
not
from
economic
development,
but
they
love
their
community.
They
raise
their
children
there,
they
have
their
parents
there.
So
please
pay
attention
to
the
processes.
C
L
I
sat
with
the
mayor.
I
sat
with
multiple
people
of
how
we
could
fix
the
process
so
that
we
could
get
things
implemented
sooner,
and
I
was
told
by
the
mayor
that
things
that
went
past
a
month
was
a
problem,
because
if
we,
if
we
voted,
we
created
doc,
we
created
a
process.
We
said
this
is
what
we
wanted.
It
should
be
moving
forward,
but
that
was
always
a
problem
and
that's
been
a
problem
is
we
will
have
an
idea
vote
on
it?
L
I
know
for
myself
with
the
tree
trimming
grant
that
went
on
for
probably
a
year
and
a
half
before
it
was
able
to
be
implemented
and
for
some
of
them
I'll
be
honest.
I
helped
to
behind
the
scenes
right.
So
it's
not.
I
don't
know
what
the
hold
up
is.
I'll,
just
be
honest,
I
don't
know,
but
if
we
could
somehow
fix
that,
we
can
get
to
the
point
of
being
able
to
spend
the
dollars
the
way
the
community
wants
in
an
efficient
and
effective
way.
L
Also,
when
we,
when
we,
when
we
create
ideas,
I
notice-
and
I
ca-
I
brought
this
before
you
before-
is
that
we
get
a
little
pushback
with
with
things
that
we
give
and
I'll
just
use
this
as
an
example
with
the
tree,
the
tree
lighting,
it
was
mentioned
in
our
cra
meeting
that
we'd
like
to
see
some
trees,
possibly
in
lakes
and
things,
and
the
pushback
we
got
was
we
didn't
want
to
put
the
tree
in
the
lake
because
we're
afraid
people
were
going
to
jump
in
the
lake
trying
to
touch
the
tree.
L
So
it's
like
push
back
on
things
where
it's
like,
where,
where
is
this
actually
coming
from?
So
if
we
could
really
just
move
forward
with
our
ideas,
what
the
community
is
saying
that
they
want
so
that
we
could
put
it
all
together,
I
feel
like
we
have
the
funds
we
have
the
people
we
can
make
it
happen.
We
just
don't
need
the
process
to
be
the
roadblock
as
far
as
making
it
happen.
Thank
you.
E
My
name
is
andre
hill.
I
was
born
here
in
tampa
in
1952
and
my
concern.
I'm
seeing
a
a
a
system
still
been
in
place
for
70
years,
and
even
I
you
know,
I
was
a
contractor
in
washington
dc,
where
I
renovated
close
to
100
houses,
and
we
have
a
little
small
grant
to
do
a
community
card.
I
have
never
seen
so
many
obstacles
and
roadblocks
to
block
your
block
from
getting
a
small
community
to
garden
together.
I've
the
architect
has
been
interfered.
My
financial
people
been
interfering,
there's
something
going
on
that.
E
We
need
to
get
to
the
root
of
the
problem
here
in
the
city
of
tampa
this
racism
of
of
of
continuing
to
oppress
and
suppress
black
economic
growth.
It's
gotta
end,
it's
gotta,
stop
you
know,
and
I
can
deal
with
these
little
obstacles,
because
that's
what
I
do,
but
the
average
person
you
know
developers
that
don't
understand
the
mechanics
and
this
this
racist
mechanism
that
exists
in
our
processing
system
of
filing
for
permits.
E
You
know
drawings
and
that
sort
of
thing
we,
the
the
city
council,
really
seriously
need
to
look
at
putting
the
committee
together,
because
people
now
from
all
over,
I
have
developers
and
on
the
west
coast,
and
they
were
asking
the
question:
what
what's
what's
wrong
with
tampa?
How
come
you
can't
get
anything?
You
know
black
folks
can't
get
anything
done
there,
and
so
it's
systemic
and
it
needs
to
be
dealt
with
it.
So
I'm
I
I
made
a
call
and
almost
had
to
threaten
legal
action.
E
You
know
to
get
things
moving
and
then
something
mysteriously
after
I
did
that.
Then
some
of
the
some
of
the
permitting
process
opened
up,
but
we
shouldn't
have
to
do
that
and
so
that's
that's.
My
biggest
concern
get
a
get
a
put
together
a
review
committee.
Let's
get
this
racism
out
because
tampa
this
is
my
home.
This
is
a
beautiful
city
and-
and
I
see
some
ugly
heads
rising
up
developers
that
intend
to
corrupt
and
prohibit
the
people,
and
especially
the
natives
of
tampa
from
enjoying
the
prosperity
of
this
beautiful
city.
D
D
D
All
right
again,
I
am
going
to
hand
the
crown
gavel
to
councilman
carlson
councilman
carlson.
We
table
the
motion.
N
D
Councilman
goodes,
you
were
you're
not
here,
and
I
wrote.
I
made
a
statement
that
miss
van
loan
has
given
her
two
week
notice
and
the
intro.
Since
I
have
been
familiar
with
miss
nicole
travis.
I
made
the
motion
that
miss
nicole
travis
step
in
as
intro
cra
director,
until
which
time
the
contract
is
complete
in
september
until
september
and
who
was.
D
D
I
Q
I
Cra
staff
or
the
chair
will
introduce
each
item
on
the
agenda.
The
members
of
the
cac
who
would
like
to
address
the
cra
board
will
come
to
the
podium
and
address
you
all
on
any
issues
they
have
regarding
that
specific
item.
I
This
is
meeting
is
more
of
a
listening
session
than
anything
else,
but
if
there
are
motions
to
be
made,
I
would
recommend
that
they
wait
till
to
close
the
need
to
make
the
motions
and
those
motions
be
made
by
the
cra
board,
because
this
meeting
is
really
being
set
up
for
you
all
to
hear
the
concerns
of
the
cac
and
to
respond
to
those
concerns.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
The
first
item
on
our
agenda.
We
have
subsections
within
that
first
item:
is
the
east
tampa
strategic
action
plan?
We
have
the
cac
members
that
are
here
if
any
of
the
cac
members
wish
to
give
us
their
cons,
their
concerns
or
have
any
questions
for
our
staff.
Please
approach
the
podium.
S
Good
evening,
everyone
I
am
friend,
tate
chair
of
the
east,
tampa
cac
of
the
east
temple
cra.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
this
this
evening.
It
was
much
needed,
councilman
goose,
we
want
to
say
to
you.
We
are
very,
very
solid
for
the
loss
of
your
legislative
aid.
Please
know
that
we
are
with
you
in
prayer,
as
well
as
with
the
family
of
your
legislative
aide.
S
But
because
I
love
my
community
and
I'm
committed
to
my
community,
I
want
to
serve
just
as
well
as
everyone
else.
That's
in
this
room.
We
know
that
we're
not
architects.
We
know
that
we're
not
planners
we're,
not
redevelopment
officials,
but
we
are
a
group
of
loving
people
that
want
to
see
east
tampa
move
forward.
S
I'm
in
the
medical
field,
I
got
a
pastor,
I
have
an
attorney.
I
have.
I
have
retirees
that
sit
on
my
board,
but
that
should
not
make
anything
that
we
desire
in
our
community
unimportant
and
overlooked.
That
should
not
happen.
We
need
the
necessary
tools.
We
have
tools,
we
need
staff,
that's
a
major
issue.
S
I
don't
mean
to
be
rude,
but
I
thank
god.
Miss
van
long
decide
to
move
on,
because
she
has
truly
offended
me
personally
and
it's
going
to
take
me
a
while
to
get
over
that
I
am
in
mental
health
counseling
for
what
she
and
and
and
my
manager
did
to
me,
but
I
ask
you
all
continue
to
pray
for
me.
I'm
going
to
move
forward.
S
S
It
is
very
urgent
that
we
have
the
things
that
we
need
in
east
tampa
to
support
east
tampa,
we're
very,
very
concerned
about
the
strategic
action
plan
and
what
I
did
coming
on
as
a
board
member
and
being
elected
as
the
chair.
I
chose
people
in
the
community
that
are
very
well
versed
in
the
dev
in
this
eight
standing
committees
that
we
have.
These
people
understand
what
they're
doing
they
know
what
they're
talking
about.
S
Extensive
delay
of
implementation
of
the
owner
occupy
rehab
program.
That's
been
well
of
the
time
I
got
here
a
year
two
years.
Where
is
that
program?
Where
is
the
rfp
so
that
we
can
implement
it?
We
want
that
we
deserve
it.
We're
demanding
it
inability
of
staff
to
ensure
that
meeting
agendas
and
background
documents
are
provided
to
cac
members
within
seven
days
prior
to
the
meeting.
S
S
Example,
I'm
personally
disappointed
because
of
the
misrepresentation
of
the
cra
board
of
the
march
1
2022
cac
discussion
of
the
draft
strategic
action
plan.
The
cac
expressed
concern
that
the
current
draft
sap
is
not
an
update
of
the
approved
2009
sap
that
was
not
related
to
the
cra
as
we
asked
staff
to
do.
S
O
Councilman
carlson
miss
tate.
We
have
the
last
three
chairs
in
the
room
and
I
think
each
of
you
started
with
hopes
that
you
could
move
things
forward
and
try
to
spend
some
of
this
money.
I
think
when
we
started
three
years
ago,
there's
something
like
three
million
dollars
in
the
account
and
I
think,
there's
still
a
million
dollars
or
something
in
an
area
that
where
we
all
would
like
to
make
changes,
but
all
three
of
you
have
had
similar
complaints.
O
S
S
L
D
Then
make
motion
to
wave
the
rules.
Please
no
emotional.
L
Thank
you
so
for
the
owner
occupied
rehab,
we
voted
while
I
was
chair
to
remove
the
program
from
the
city,
because
the
program
had
been
with
the
city
for
two
years
and
we
didn't
have
one
person
utilize
any
of
the
funds.
We
had
a
half
a
million
dollars
set
aside
for
it
and
once
we
realized
that
it
wasn't
being
utilized,
we
decided
to
try
to
find
a
non-profit
that
could
step
in
and
take
the
funds
and
start
doing
the
rehab.
L
I
brought
in
one
I
believe,
to
the
last
meeting
that
that
would
have
been
september
2020,
who
went
over
what
they
would
do
with
the
funds,
how
they
could
implement
it
and
what
would
be
their
plan
and
before
we
had
an
opportunity
to
vote.
We
were
all
told
to
hold
off
on
that
vote
on
whether
we
wanted
to
go
with
that
one
and
then
in
october
2020.
L
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we
never
proceeded
with
it
and-
and
I
might
add,
towards
the
end
once
we
said
we
wanted
to
remove
the
funds
and
find
a
non-profit
to
do
it.
That's
when
we
came
back
and
heard
from
the
city
that
there
were
four
homes
that
were
being
rehabbed
with
our
dollars
and
when
I
went
back
and
asked
what
those
four
homes
were
and
we
and
we
cross-referenced
that
they
were
not
using
our
funds,
that
was
using
the
city's
owner-occupied
rehab
and
they
were
not
utilizing
any
of
our
funds.
For
that.
S
O
D
O
O
Carlson
you're
recognizing
thank
you.
I
was
just
following
up.
Why
do
you
all
think
that
this
that
we
can't
get
anything
move
forward?
What
do
you
think
is
the
block.
S
L
I
have
my
idea
go
ahead
because
when
I
came
on
we
were
spending.
L
We
were
doing
all
the
things
that
in
other
neighborhoods,
the
city
pays
for,
but
if
it
never
goes
to
the
city
budget
and
because
if
it's
on
the
city's
budget
at
least
in
five
years,
the
cac
can't
pay
for
it.
That's
the
that's
the
statute.
So
if
it
never
goes
to
the
city
budget,
we
can
always
pay
for
it.
So
when
I
came
in,
we
started
pulling
back
the
funds
from
doing
that.
We
paid
the
last
roads.
We
were
like
we're
not
paving
roads
anymore.
L
O
This
is
my
concern,
mr
chair
I'll,
say
this
and
I'll
be
quiet.
This
is
my
concern
with
with
continuing
to
outsource
to
the
city.
Is
that,
as
long
as
it's
part
of
the
t3
program,
we're
going
to
get
lots
of
movement
if
it's
up
to
the
cra
board,
the
city
staff's
going
to
do
nothing
to
implement
it,
and
this
is
across
the
board?
It's
frustrating.
A
You
know
I'm
glad
I
had
a
chance
to
I'm
still
here
to
see
this
meeting.
It's
long
overdue.
The
community
is
angry.
I
had
a
conversation
with
miss
travis
on
yesterday.
We
were
both
candid
with
one
another.
In
blunt
there
is
nothing
really
moving.
What
I
call
the
wow
that
you've
heard
me
say:
we've
got
some
small
little
leaves
that
have
been
brushed
on,
but
nothing
that's
significant.
That
will
make
the
community
say:
wow
we're
we're
moving,
and
we
talked
about
that
extensively,
making
sure
that
we
find
those
wows.
A
A
I
think
that's
has
been
the
problem
for
a
lot
of
the
administrations
that,
until
what
I
call
black
folks
get
angry,
they
say
are
mad
people
pay
attention
to
us
and
listen
to
us
and
that
shouldn't
have
to
be
it
shouldn't
have
to
be,
but
but
I'm
hoping
that
miss
travis,
who
has
the
experience
and
has
done
some
things
in
black
communities
where
she's
come
from,
will
be
able
to
bring
some
of
that
experience
here
to
help
mr
mcrae
to
build
what
we
need
bill,
we
have
money
to
build.
A
Like
I
told
mrs
travis,
we
can't
do
that
anymore.
We
have
to
have
a
team
focused
strictly
on
each
tamper
to
make
it
really
move
and
the
city
can
still
operate,
but
we
have
to
have
a
team
so
within
the
city
that
way,
those
projects
do
get
done.
We're
not
to
wait
for
this
rfp
to
wait
so
long.
You
know
we
have
to
wait
for
a
certain
price
that
we
have
been
sitting
on
the
shelf
forever
to
get
done.
A
The
city
is
a
big
place,
it's
getting
bigger
every
day,
but
we
cannot
continue
as
a
caac
in
east
tampa
to
always
be
at
the
backing
line.
We
need
to
be
put
to
the
front
of
the
line
of
some
of
those
other
projects
to
get
it
moving.
That's
just
my
observation
of
the
person
who's
set
on
the
cece
tampa.
I
experienced
those
things
of
why
we
can't
do
this.
There's
always
well.
A
We
can't
do
this
because
there's
a
reason,
but
we'll
find
a
way
to
do
other
projects
in
the
city
or
find
out
a
little
hope
to
do
things.
So
we
got
to
find
those
loopholes
in
east
tampa
to
do
the
same
thing
that
we've
been
doing
this
season.
That's
just
been
my
observation
over
the
years
and
persons
who
sit
on
that
board,
so
I
do
understand
the
frustration
so
hopefully
miss
travelers
on
board
and
the
board
hear
the
concerns
of
the
board
military
community.
A
L
May
I
say
one
thing
and
then
I'll
defer
to
miss
connie.
Yes,
one
of
the
things
that
I
also
notice
as
becoming
chair
is
that
we
were
being
spoon
fed
the
budget,
so
the
budget
was
prepared
and
brought
to
us
literally
the
day
before
our
meaning
and
said
you
have
to
vote
on
this
so
the
very
first
time
we
knew
no
better
we're
like
okay,
we
trust
your
judgment.
We
vote
after
I
went
to
the
cra
conferences
and
I
started
talking
to
other
people
and
they're
like
what
you
don't
write
your
own
budget.
L
J
J
J
And
then,
when
I
looked
at
the
strategic
plan
and
looked
at
no
more
than
like
a
color
coloring
book
to
me,
I
refused
to
pay
on
one
penny.
They
do
not
deserve
the
300
plus
thousand
dollars
for
duplication
and
rewriting
the
same
program
over.
It's
absolutely
ridiculous,
and
you
say
what
is
the
root
cause?
J
If
the
mayor
don't
want
it
to
happen
in
east
tampa,
it's
not
going
to
happen
until
our
community
is
mature
enough
to
say
we
render
a
political
judgment
against
everybody
up
there
that
have
a
loud.
This
happened
for
the
last
20
years.
That's
how
we
get
out
of
this
level,
and
so
the
strategic
plan
is
meaningless.
At
this
point,
you
know
how
I
know
that
the
discussion
of
the
other
day
is
saying:
well,
let's
listen
to
bloomberg.
J
Well,
what
did
we
pay
the
360
thousand
dollars
for
right,
so
we're
just
walking
in
circles
and
what
has
been
the
biggest
thing
and
I'm
a
tool
enough
to
understand
it
now
is
pitting
us
against
each
other
hitting
us
against
each
other,
and
so,
while
we
want
to
create
wealth
for
our
community,
even
with
the
tree
trimming
grant,
we
saw
the
same
people
eating
one
vendor,
getting
all
the
work.
We
simply
said
the
people
in
our
community
can
cut
a
tree
right
before
white
people
want
to
pick
up
a
rake.
J
We
was
doing
that
work,
so
we
had
to
go
back
and
start
making
demands
for
economic
development
to
the
staff.
I
don't
know
what
we're
paying
them
for.
I
don't
we
pay
out
salary
for
five
different
individuals
and
we're
being
asked
to
come
up
with
the
plan
right.
If
I
tell
you
what
the
plan
and
you
the
architect-
and
I
want
you
to
build
me-
a
four-bedroom
three-bedroom
house,
I
don't
bring
the
blueprint
when
we
are
paying
them
salaries.
They
suppose,
in
my
opinion,
come
back
and
tell
us
what
programs
that
are
in
place.
J
J
If
we
cannot
get
it
right,
because
we've
been
20
years
in
the
making-
and
we
don't
have
nothing
to
pass
down
to
our
children-
we
don't,
and
so
what
I
want
to
see
moving
forward
is
the
ability
to
create
jobs
and
opportunity
from
every
proposal
that
goes
out.
Somebody
in
our
community
should
be
able
to
do
that.
J
J
J
J
One
of
the
main
things
that
I
want
to
see
done
is
that
the
voices
are
respected.
This
is
the
chair.
She
should
be
respected
as
such,
and
the
community
voices
should
be
heard
and
the
very
minimal
things
that
we
have
asked
for
number
one
top
priority.
We
want
decency
in
housing,
we
want
to
see
a
complete
renovation
of
houses
in
our
community
and
we
do
want.
We
want
to
end
the
gentrification
of
our
people.
J
O
His
miss
statements,
goodly
talked
about
a
little
bit
about
their
interface
with
with
staff.
When
you
were
chair
a
couple
times
you
and
I
spoke,
and
you
were
disappointed
in
the
way
the
meetings
were
being
handled
and
the
way
staff
was
interacting
with
you.
So
at
some
point
I
called
a
a
a
conference
call
with
all
the
staff
related
to
east
tampa
and
you
were
on
the
phone
and
we
had
a
conversation.
O
Just
for
the
sake
of
my
colleagues,
could
you
could
you
just
briefly
tell
them
what
you
were
experiencing
and
and
now
we
have
a
chance
to
to
to
hire
staff
or
outsource
to
another
entity
other
than
the
city?
Do
you?
What
would
you
recommend
we
do
so
that
we
can
get
movement?
How
would
you
you
know
what
what
were
the
issues
you're
facing?
How
would
you
restaff
going
forward
my.
J
Recommendation
is
that
this
staff,
as
long
as
it
has
to
report
to
the
mayor
as
nice
as
people
as
they
are,
cannot
answer
directly
to
you
and
the
recommendations
that
this
community
is
making
they
can't
they
can't
do
it
and
it
has
nothing
to
do
if
we
like
them
or
not,
but
for
17
years
you
had
ed
johnson
and
nothing.
We
said
about
ed
johnson
mattered
because
he
had
a
stellar
evaluation,
so
number
one.
This
staff,
this
board
need
to
be
completely
independent.
J
We
need
to
be
able
to
hire
our
own
developers,
our
own
urban
planners,
our
own
housing
department.
Now
we
are
paying
their
salary,
but
we
don't
we.
We
can't
make
no
determination
if
they
are
doing
a
good
job.
We
don't
make
no
evaluation
about
them,
but
it's
coming
out
of
the
community's
funding
right.
So
that's
number
one.
I
can't
see
getting
past
that
we
need
an
independent
body
of
people
that
answered
to
you
not
to
the
mayor.
L
If
I
could
have
to
piggyback
on
what
you
asked
once
I
started
asking
and
speaking
with
directors
throughout
the
city
to
try
to
figure
out
the
process
and
what
we
could
do.
I
was
immediately
confronted
and
told
that
I
was
not
able
to
speak
to
any
director
with
the
city
of
tampa.
It
all
had
to
go
through
the
cra
manager,
and
I
didn't
follow
it
because
I
had
completed
mayor's
neighborhood
university
and
through
that
process
we
were
able
to
talk
to
every
director
there.
L
So
through
that
time
I
made
certain
I
created
contacts
where
I
could
reach
back
out.
But
if
we're
being
told
that
we
can't
speak
to
the
directors,
we
can't
speak
to
the
people
who
can
help
implement
programs
for
us.
How
can
we
get
things
done
if
it's
not
happening
through
the
channels
of
the
cra?
So
I
circumvented
all
that
and
went
through.
L
I
just
went
to
the
directors
and
I
sat
down
with
them
and
we
wrote
programs,
so
the
programs
that
were
able
to
be
accomplished
under
me.
Almost
all
of
them,
I
wrote,
but
I
wrote
and
gave
it
to
them
and
said
you
say
it's
your
work
and
they
said
it
was
theirs
and
that's
how
we
got
to
implement
it
like
that.
It
shouldn't
even
have
to
work
that
way.
S
And
what
and
what
I
I
heard
michelle
when
she
said
everything
needs
to
come
from
the
cac
board
and
then
fills
it
out
to
the
standing
committees,
but
that's
not
where
your
fire
power
is.
If
your
fire
power
is
in
the
standing
committees,
there
is
no
wrong
there's
nothing
wrong
with
them.
Coming
to
the
csc
board
and
saying
look,
I
know
economic
development.
Look.
I
know
urban
deploy
urban
planning.
Look.
S
I
know
land
use,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
listening
to
them
and
taking
the
advice
they
live
in
the
community
they're,
not
outsiders,
they
know
what
they
see,
they've
been
trained,
they
went
to
school
for
that,
that's
their
expertise
and
when
you
look
at
your
board,
as
I
stated
we,
we
have
just
community
members
on
there.
How
will
anything
move?
We
have
to
make
all
the
suggestions
when
they
already
know.
S
A
It's
just
like,
I
said
the
last
cr
board
meeting.
You
know
every
cra
operates
a
little
bit
differently
and
unfortunately
we
have
our
marginalized
communities.
We
have
volunteers
who
may
not
have
those
special
skills
expertise,
but
they
want
to
volunteer
because
they
want
to
fix
their
community.
They
want
those
wilds
too.
You
look
at
channel
side
and
the
downtown
partnership
cras.
A
They
have
people
who
have
a
large
expertise
of
environmental
infrastructure
whatever,
so
they
can
sit
on
those
boards
and
not
worry
about
their
subcommittees,
because
you
have
people
who
have
expertise
on
that
particular
board,
whereas
these
champions,
I
can
tell
you,
but
it
is
a
different
functioning
board.
Just
like
west
tampa
where's
tampa.
I
know
the
folks
at
77
west
hampton
board,
mr
robinson,
has
an
engineer's
degree.
He
has
a
specialty,
he
knows
to
know.
A
A
So
I
I
I
I
I
feel
their
pain,
I
mean
I
understand
so
and,
and
we
talk
about
processing,
I'm
hoping
that
miss
travis
here
now
can
help
filter
a
good
process,
but
talk
about
the
progress
with
the
people
that
are
there
to
see
how
their
process
will
work
to
get
them
where
they
need
to
be
versus
where
he
bore,
or
somebody
else
has
a
different
process
or
a
standardized
process,
but
I
think
miss
travis.
You
see
the
challenges
you've
been
here,
you've
heard
you've
talked
to
people,
there's
no
difference
where
you
came
from.
A
We
probably
had
some
of
those
issues
as
well,
and
you
know
our
people,
you
know
how
we
think
you
understand
and-
and
it
is
a
different
makeup,
so
I'm
prayerful
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
hopefully
turn
the
corner.
I
miss
burton
you're
right
everything,
even
though
the
cra
person
for
our
country
is
supposed
to
answer
to
us.
I
know
at
times
they
answer
to
the
chief
of
staff
in
the
mirror.
A
J
A
J
J
D
K
Good
evening,
jeffrey
johnson
cac
member
a
couple
of
things
about
the
content
of
the
sap
and
which
we
had
grievances
with
first
before
I
go
there.
I
think,
mr
chair,
even
though
miss
van
loan
gave
her
resignation,
and
this
is
not
a
personal
statement-
this
is
all
business.
K
I
think
she
should
still
be
held
accountable,
as
well
as
answering
the
questions
and
the
grievances
that
we
had
before
your
committee
and
even
though
she's
being
reassigned
or
going
somewhere
else
to
another
department
in
tampa,
she's
still
a
city
employee,
and
I
think
that
will
help
bring
some
of
the
tension
to
the
forefront
to
where
she's
now
held
accountable
for
the
lack
thereof
of
the
things
that
didn't
move
in
east
tampa.
When
it
comes
to
the
content
of
sap,
we
were
believing
that
it
should
have
been
a
continuation
from
the
sap
in
2009.
K
It
was
not
that
it
was
a
completely
new
plan.
There
was
not
many
steps
that
reached
from
where
we
were
another
problem
we
had.
There
were
no
actionable
steps
in
the
current
sap.
We
wanted
to
see
what
were
those
actionable
steps
that
we
can
use,
that
our
standing
committees
could
take
to
make
sure
that
that
sap
came
to
life.
K
Also
in
our
previous
fiscal
year,
we
placed
in
the
budget
for
a
sap
consultant
to
actually
give
legs
to
this
that,
as
the
sap
was
approved,
this
person
will
come
aboard
to
make
sure
that
life
is
given
to
the
sap,
so
that
hasn't
been
brought
forth
either,
but
that
is
also
in
our
in
our
our
budget.
Also
when
it
comes
to
the
contract,
we,
the
new
board
that
came
upon
we
never
were,
was
privy
to
the
contract
that
was
originally
written
up
for
the
contractors
gai.
K
So
when
we
asked
them
for
additional
things,
we
had
no
idea
that
we
were
being
built
for
those
things.
One
day
we
came
to
a
meeting
and
there
was
an
invoice
in
front
of
us
saying
what
we
needed
to
pay
when
we
were
thinking
that
was
already
a
part
of
their
purview
and
their
scope
of
the
services
that
they
should
be
providing,
and
we
had
to
come
back
and
pay
that,
and
so
that
was
the
reason
why
there
was
much
confusion
behind
that.
K
K
Ms
van
loan
never
said
if
they
are
doing
something
additional,
it
will
cost
that
never
came
up.
We
was
handed
an
invoice
and
expected
to
pay
that.
So
that
is
the
reason
why
you
have
many
grievances
on
behalf
of
our
committee,
because
of
the
process
how
it
was
handled,
and
we
were
not
properly
vetted
to
know
what
their
scope
was,
and
neither
was
we
given
the
tools
to
address
that.
Thank.
B
Ma'am
go
ahead.
Are
you
able
to
hear
me
for
whatever
reason,
I
guess
that
you
all
did
not
recognize
that
I
was
online
earlier
waiting
to
speak
to
the
process.
B
But
again
I
do
want
to
thank
city
council
for
your
service,
and
I
do
want
to
say
with
this
sap
and
as
a
professional
person,
I'm
retired
now,
but
things
were
done
that
were
not
in
best
practice,
because
we
know
if
you
provide
services
without
approval,
that
from
the
board
that
that
you
eat
that
cost.
This
sap
has
not
done
what
we
asked
it
to
do.
They
did
not
follow
the
contract,
it's
pretty
much,
just
a
mirror
of
what
was
already
existed
in
2009,
which
you
were
looking
for.
B
Some
updates
for
the
current
situation
in
this
pamper
in,
in
my
opinion,
being
a
30
plus
residence,
and
I
certainly
sent
you
all
an
email
and
I
hope
that
you
all
were
able
to
lose
it.
At
least,
I
was
unable
to
send
you
some
additional
information
from
my
bio,
but
I
it's
not
about
me.
It's
about
my
commute
and
at
this
time
I
feel
we've
been
treated
unfairly.
B
I've
listened
to
a
lot
of
the
former
chairs
and
no
matter
how
we
spend
this
east
hamper
is
labeled
with
some
racist
overtones,
unfortunately,
but
it
is
what
it
is
and
as
soon
as
we
move
past
that,
because
I
grew
up
in
south
campus,
so
I'm
very
aware
of
what
can
be
and
I
and
what
cannot
be
in
each
campus,
just
labeled
to
be
used
to
get
grants
monies
by
our
zip
codes
and
not
really
giving
our
community
opportunities
to
be
the
best
that
they
can
be
so
that
sap
does
not
reflect
who
we
are
it's
some
updates
from
some
beautiful
pictures
for
360
thousand
dollars
that
I
I
don't
understand
where
that's
gonna
materialize.
B
But
when
I
unders,
when
I
heard
miss
van
long
talk
about
blooming
bloomberg
or
whatever
it
was
a
shock
to
me,
because
that
once
again,
there's
some
surprises
that
we're
not
aware
of
as
a
board
that
is
going
on
behind
our
backs.
As
though
we
are
incompetent
that
we
are
not
professionals
that
we
are
not
educated
to
know
the
process
and
and
each
time
it
seems
not
to
be
a
process.
B
It
seems
to
be
a
free-for-all,
and-
and
I
am
after
being
in
each
time
for
30
years,
hoping
that
my
community
would
be
the
best
that
it
could
be
and
when
she
hollered
frustration.
I
am
because
it's
like
we
are
frustrated
because
we're
led
around
by
a
director
that
has
her
own
opinion
of
what
we
need
of
what
we
deserve.
And
it's
not
not.
How
expectation
hurt
you
and
it's
low
expectations.
B
G
Good
evening,
clint,
paris,
I
serve
on
the
cac
board
and
I
won't
reiterate
all
the
comments
that
we've
heard
heard
tonight.
But
I
want
to
share
just
a
couple
of
dynamics:
I'm
not
the
sharpest
guy,
but
usually
when
I
can't
get
my
hands
around
something
it's
not
because
of
an
accident.
G
It's
because
it's
the
way
that
it's
been
set
up
intentionally,
and
it
took
me
a
good,
probably
12,
months
of
sitting
on
the
cac
to
realize
this
thing
is
a
complete
structural
mess
and
I
don't
think
that's
by
accident,
there's
a
lot
of
money
at
stake
here,
a
lot
of
money
and
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
people
making
a
lot
of
money
from
the
cac
without
the
actual
services
and
things
that
this
community
needs
actually
happening.
And
I
throw
that
back
to
the
cra
board.
You
all
are
probably
the
one
most
consistent
thing
here.
G
Now
I
think
it
is,
and
for
almost
a
year
we
were
just
left
almost
without
clear
leadership,
and
I
don't
think
that
was
just
completely
on
us,
because
there
are
reports
being
made
and
I've
heard
reports
be
made
to
the
cra
board
and
you
all
just
kind
of
nod
your
head
and
blow
along
with
it,
without
putting
the
real
pressure,
because
we're
told
that
our
meetings
we're
just
making
recommendations,
we're
not
really
deciding
stuff
we're
just
kind
of
making
recommendations
and
the
real
meat
gets
on
the
table.
When
it
comes
to
you
all.
G
So
I
think
you
all
need
to
really
take
a
hard
look
at
how
you've
handled
this
cr
the
cra
over
the
last
couple
of
years
and
allowed
it
to
render
to
be
in
the
situation
it
is.
It
doesn't
take
a
brain
surgeon
to
realize
that
ca,
sap
that
we
received,
and
once
we
finally
got
the
contract
to
look
at
it,
didn't
look
like
what
was
should
have
been
presented
to
us.
G
In
fact,
we
asked
that
a
legal
opinion
be
given
from
the
legal
department
explaining
is
the
sap
in
line
with
the
contract
that
they
were
provided
to
to
give
to
us
today.
We've
not
heard
anything
anything
about
that,
but
that
would
be
consistent
with
a
lot
of
things
that
tend
to
go
into
what
I
call
the
city's
black
hole.
Things
go
in
and
by
the
time,
it's
time
for
something
to
come
out
the
people
who
would
know
what
should
be
coming
out.
G
They're
gone,
and
now
you
have
another
group
of
people
who
really
don't
know
what
should
or
should
not
be
happening.
So
what
do
they
do?
They
trust
good
people
that
they
think
are
serving
to
give
them
what
they
deserve.
So
I
think
that's
one
of
the
most
important
things
here
is:
we
have
to
create
a
mechanism
of
accountability,
because
that
contract
was
signed
by
the
city
and
somebody
at
the
city
should
have
been
monitoring
the
initial
drive
to
say
this
is
not
what
we
asked
for.
G
G
It
just
seemed
like
anybody
anywhere
at
any
time
could
yell
hey
come
to
my
street.
Hey
come
walk
with
us.
Hey
come
look
at.
I
think
there
were
some
retention
ponds,
come
look
at
my
retention
pond
and
they
were
done
and
then
we
received
the
bill
for
them.
We
were
basically
told
by
michelle
van
loan.
Hey
it's
the
bill.
He's
done
the
services
you
all
you
kind
of
need
to
just
go
ahead
and
get
this
thing
paid.
We've
spent.
G
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
meetings
to
the
point
my
position
was:
pay
the
dog
own
thing
get
it
out
the
way.
So
we
can
talk
about
real
issues
that
are
concerning
this
community.
So
I
would,
I
would
love
to
see
this
cra
board.
Take
a
hard
look
at
that
sap,
look
at
the
contract
and
see
if
you
agree
that
what
he
produced
is
what
you're
really
asking
to
provide.
That's
as
it
pertains
to
the
sap
and
I'll
come
back
at
an
appropriate
time
in
the
agenda
for
other
comments.
Thank
you,
mr.
I
I
There's
this
disconnect
and
a
couple
things
we've
been
told
by
gei
and
number
one?
We
have
not
paid
them.
The
entire
amount
we're
holding
back
money
still
under
the
contract,
so
they've
not
fully
performed
we've,
not
paid
them
for
their
performance.
Yet
so
there's
they're
still
under
contract.
We've
advised
them
of
the
deficiencies
that
you
all
have
noted,
some
of
which
I
I
agree
with.
I
They
are
not
there,
they
don't
comply
with
the
scope
of
contract
and
they
have
responded
that
they
are
revising
the
draft
contract
and
direct
sap
to
address
your
concerns
so
until
we're
not
at
a
point
at
finding
them
in
default
or
finding
that
it's
that
the
sap
is
wrong
there.
The
sap
is
still
in
draft
form,
and
so
they
are
supposedly
addressing
those
concerns
and
coming
back
with
the
revisions
to
the
sap.
I
G
First,
this
this
has
the
feel
of
the
kind
of
response
we
get
from
city
about
the
issues.
We
ask.
We
ask
for
legal
opinion.
We
didn't
ask
to
coordinate
with
gai
as
the
what
should
be
done.
We
asked
for
legal
opinion
and
nothing
has
been
coming
come
forward
and
today
we
didn't
hear
anything
legal
about
whether
or
not
they
are
complying
to
that
contract.
We
just
ask
that
we
be
clear
is
what
we
received
consistent,
what
we
contracted
for
now.
Maybe
they
can
fix
it
and
correct
it.
I
H
With
my
background
in
public
policy
and
administration,
I
was
asked
to
join
this
board
because
of
my
expertise
in
a
certain
amount
of
areas
on
this
board.
While
looking
for
that
unbeknownst
to
me,
a
lot
of
my
direction
that
I
have
put
in
with
our
meetings
have
come
from
the
lake
lakeland
cra.
So
to
go
back
to
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
about
miss
travis,
I
did
not
know
that
she
was
the
implementer
of
all
those
programs.
H
I
had
already
been
ushering
in
into
this
the
current
cac,
so
I
am
in
favor
of
miss
travis
working
along
with
us
and
helping
with
direction
as
the
other
items
come
up.
I
would
still
like
to
speak
to
those,
because,
again
all
of
these
are
valid
in
regards
to
the
sap.
H
We
spent
a
large
amount
of
time
over
covet
taking
surveys.
Most
of
the
sap
that
was
given
to
us
was
generated
from
the
board
down
even
to
the
east
tampa
logo.
If,
if,
if
anything,
I
would
request
to
get
paid
for
that,
because
that
was
my
intellectual
property
that
was
used
during
that.
So
we're
not
I'm
not
asking
for
reparations
now,
but
again
the
information
that
was
given
the
surveys
that
were
taken
from
the
community.
H
I
would
still
like
to
use
that
information
right
now,
because
one
thing
that
we
did
get
from
the
sap
there
are
quite
a
number
of
concerns,
housing,
economic
development,
and
I
believe
that
all
those
things
can
be
attainable
within
a
certain
amount
of
time.
But
the
issue
is:
is
that
we
keep
asking
you
all
for
help
and
you're
not
helping.
H
So
what
I
am
asking
is
that
we
have
our
own
money
to
be
able
to
delegate
the
way
we
need
to
that
could
be
dedicated
through
private
entities
that
could
be
delegated
through
non-profits.
That
are
already
working
in
the
area.
I
hope
that
miss
travis
come
along
and
go
ahead
and
work
with
us
to
get
those
things
implemented.
Because
again,
there
are,
all
of
us
are
volunteers.
None
of
us
are
getting
paid.
We
are
not
developers.
We
are
people
who
have
reinvested
in
this
area.
I
could
have
moved
to
dc.
H
I
could
have
moved
to
riverview.
I
decided
to
come
back
into
east
tampa
because
we
are
one
of
the
only
last
areas
where
the
demographic
looks
like
us
and
unfortunately,
I
would
like
to.
Unfortunately,
the
people
who
live
here
their
homes
are
are
being
blown
away,
their
homes
are
are
falling
apart
and
if
we
don't
do
our
part
right
now,
those
homes
are
going
to
fall
apart
and
the
developer
is
going
to
come
and
redevelop
and
they
can't
move
back
into
that
stay
at
home.
H
So
again,
I
hope
that
the
administration
we
have
right
now
can
work
with
us
to
not
only
fix
homes
but
also
usher
in
multi-family
homes,
multi,
multidimensional
properties.
We
know
that
the
planning
committee
has
higher
dp
in
east
tampa.
Unfortunately,
that's
going
into
a
whole
other
area
of
housing,
but
if
I
have
a
housing
voucher,
I
cannot
move
in
east
tampa
because
I
cannot
even
afford
it
on
a
voucher.
So
these
are
the
things
that
we
need
to
look
at.
Unfortunately,
this
administration
has
not
helped
us,
so
I'm
not
asking
for
help.
L
The
process
of
bringing
that
consultant
on
board
was
actually
done
by
staff
and
administration,
so
we
were
given
a
list
of
potential
people
who
wanted
to
who
put
in
who
replied
for
the
rfp,
and
then
we
created
a
subcommittee
that
was
supposed
to
meet
with
them
and
meet
with
every
one
of
the
applicants
and
then
come
back
and
let
us
know
one
of
the
individuals
said
they
weren't
noticed
to
of
any
of
the
meetings,
so
they
didn't
attend
and
the
other
one
couldn't
attend
and
we
were
never.
As
the
chair.
L
I
was
never
made
aware
that
it
all
happened
without
any
of
our
cac
members
being
present
to
decide
what
was
the
best
consultant.
So
we
just
we
were
advised
at
one
meeting
that
gai.
This
is
who
it
is,
which
created
a
whole
big
ruckus,
because
everyone
said
this
was
not.
We
didn't
have
any
insight
to
this.
We
can't
go
to
our
members
and
say
how
was
it
who
was
the
best
one
and
it
was
kind
of
just
poo
poo'd.
L
So
we
kind
of
went
through
again
and
then
gai
sat
down
and
said
well,
this
is
what
we
would
do
and
all
this,
but
we
didn't
have
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
the
other
ones.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
it
known
that
we
did
not
select.
Gai
gai
was
selected
by
city
staff
and
administration
and
they
were
given
to
us.
D
D
D
Fra,
excuse
me
yeah
all
right
all
right
if
we're
not
gonna,
have
any
more
questions
or
comments
from
the
cac
concerning
the
strategic
action
plan.
Ms
travis,
do
you
want
to
speak
to
that.
N
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
nicole,
travis
administrative
development,
economic
opportunity.
So
I
have
some
comments
regarding
the
sap.
I
have
read
the
document
and
I
I've
heard
the
frustration.
My
comments
really
are
not
just
about
the
sap.
What
you
hear
and
see
here
are
people
that
are
frustrated
in
the
process
and
things
not
getting
done
in
a
manner
that
is
acceptable
and
in
a
timeline,
that's
acceptable
to
them.
N
You
got
a
director
and
then
you
receive
monthly
reports
from
that
director,
but
along
the
process
between
staff
talking
to
the
cac
board,
members
and
them
wanting
to
implement
and
take
things
to
you,
there
is
lifetimes,
but
we
should
be
reporting
back
to
the
community
so
that
they
know
where
things
are,
where
the
pros,
what
the
process
is,
and
so
I'm
taking
notes,
I've
asked
cedric
I
was
like.
Do
you
know
how?
N
How
to
get
in
contact
with
most
of
the
speakers
that
are
here,
because
I
was
going
to
start
walking
out
and
hand
out
cards
because
I
want
to
talk
to
the
community.
I
want
to
understand
what
the
wants
are,
how
we
can
implement
things
together.
You
can't
do
development
without
the
community.
You
absolutely
cannot.
You
have
to
be
boots
on
the
ground.
You
have
to
be
in
the
community.
It's
it's
my
life's
work,
it's
my
career!
N
That's
what
I've
done
and
I
plan
to
do
it
here
as
well,
and
so
I'm
I
hear
frustration,
but
I
see
a
lot
of
opportunity.
I
see
a
lot
of
familiar
faces
from
when
I
was
in
tampa
before
and
also
some
lifelong
family
friends.
So
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
the
opportunity
to
continue
to
take
notes
on
the
other
items.
I
just
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
were
said
con.
The
accessory
dwelling
units
you've
heard
this
from
the
affordable
housing
perspective
at
housing
crisis.
N
One
of
the
things
that
staff
is
bringing
back
to
you
in
the
june
workshop
is
affordable,
housing
in
certain
areas
of
the
city,
so
some
areas
just
absolutely
do
not
want
it.
There
are
other
areas
that
could
use
accessory
dwelling
units,
duplexes
triplexes
and
that
be
a
way
of
building
generational
wealth
and
also
a
way
of
being
able
to
supplement
their
income
by
being
able
to
have
be
able
to
rent
a
piece
of
property.
Those
are
things
that
I
have
already
directed
staff
to
work
on
and
things
that
are
already
in
the
work.
N
N
N
A
N
So
I'll
talk
about
there's
a
lot
of
comments
behind
me
and
I
invite
anybody
to
meet
with
me
afterwards
to
speak
to
me
so
with
the
fair,
fair
oaks
project
that
there
has
been
a
series
of
master
plans,
we
meet
bi-weekly
now
and
there's
what
councilman
goods-
and
I
were
talking
about
is
there
seems
to
have
not
been
any
progress
made
on
this
project.
However,
there
is
progress,
and
a
part
of
that
is
us
not
reporting
back
on
the
progress
that
we've
made.
There's
a
lot
of
private
property
acquisitions.
N
We
just
closed
on
the
last
piece
of
caracas.
Last
week,
thursday,
we've
already
started
the
process
of
vacating
the
right-of-way
and
we're
in
active
negotiations
again
with
penny
savers,
and
I
shared
with
councilman
goodes
yesterday
that
so
help
me.
God
I'm
going
to
try
to
to
secure
that.
But
we
can't
allow
penny
savers
to
hold
us
hostage
either.
So
we
are
continuing
to
negot
actively
negotiate
with
penny
savers,
but
also
work
on
a
master
plan
and
vacating
the
right-of-way.
N
Now
that
we've
had
the
last
piece
on
caracas
to
plan
that,
if
we
don't
get
penny
savers,
we
can
move
forward
with
a
project
for
the
community.
If
we
get
penny
savers,
it's
an
added
benefit,
so
we're
actively
negotiating
on
that
project
now,
and
that
was
the
update.
I'm
sorry
that
I
provided
to
councilman
goods
yesterday.
A
Mr,
let
me
say
this:
you
know
to
move
a
community,
they
must
see
change,
they
must
see
a
different
look.
It's
not
feral,
because
fair
oaks
is
just
a
building
right.
That
community
is
not
called
fair
oaks.
That's
correct!
Okay,
the
community
is
not
called
field,
it's
called
it's
tonight,
so
it's
a
totally
different
name.
The
building
is
fair
oaks.
All
the
new
development
become
come
with.
That
is
not
a
part
of
that
one
building,
fair
oaks.
We
have
seven
to
ten
other
communities
around
that
building
in
each
pocket.
A
Every
community
needs
to
be
a
part
of
that
new
project,
and
if
it's
continuous,
if
we
say
pharaoh,
we
can't
continue
to
save
her.
The
building
could
be
named
first
but
that
whole
new
development
has
to
be
east.
Tampa
east
tampa
complex
east,
whatever
you
want
to
name
it,
but
it
has
to
be
inclusive
of
all
communities,
because
that
entails
all
community
will
meet
together.
A
Bond
together,
break
bread
together,
and
we
may
not
have
some
of
the
violence
that
we
have
if
we
have
a
substantial
community
center
dance
step,
gymnastics
that
other
communities
have
that
all
those
communities
can
use.
So
yes,
for
me,
we
can
do
we
need
to
do.
But
penny
saver
is
a
must
and
I
know
we
have
the
financial
dollars
again.
It
is
a
must,
because
that
will
change
the
whole
outlook
of
34th
street
the
whole
face
of
a
34c.
So
that's
not
infrared.
That
is
a
must.
A
I
get
it
I
get
it.
I
get
that
but
again
without
talking
about
the
other
price,
their
dollars,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
we
get
it
at
a
fair
price
and
make
sure
that
people
are
not
just
trying
to
give
it
to
east
tampa
that
we
get
a
fair
price
to
get
whatever
we
got
to
get.
But
but
again
my
thing
is
eventually
down
how
we
get
it,
no
matter
what
we
do
around
it.
Eventually
34th
has
to
have
a
facelift.
N
100
agreed
and
excuse
me
councilman
100
agreed
and
if
we
don't
get
it,
it
will
not
be
for
a
lack
of
effort
on
on
our
part,
and
you
have
my
word
on
that-
you
and
I
have
talked
about
that
and
we'll
continue
to
report
report
on
it.
Mr.
I
I
I
we,
I
will
talk
to
revenue
and
finance,
but
that
money
should
still
be
residing
with
the
cra,
except
for
some
monies
that
were
paid
and
before
title
commitment
and
environmental
reports,
which
would
be
a
nominal
amount
that
we
hopefully
can
use
if
we
were
able
to
move
forward
with
the
penny
saver
site,
so
that
money
should
be
there
available.
If
we
were
able
to
get
that
under
contract
to
purchase
that
product.
O
Just
wanted
to
address
the
fair
oaks
issue
two
and
a
half
years
ago,
or
so
we
at
the
cra
board
meetings
and
at
the
city
council
meetings
we
had
person
at
the
person
at
a
person
come
before
us
and
say:
can
you
please
do
something
about
fair
oaks,
the
city's
not
doing
anything.
O
The
last
administration
was
asked
twice
and
the
parks
department
presented
this
to
the
public
twice
to
spend
300
000
to
renovate
it
in
the
building
and
they
refused,
despite
spending
a
hundred
million
dollars
to
to
subsidize
some
buildings
down
the
street
the.
So
we
I
think
it
was
maybe
chairman
good's
idea
or
screw's
idea,
but
we
held
a
cra
board
held
a
community
meeting
at
fair
oaks,
and
while
we
were
there,
the
community
got
up
and
said
you
see
their
bars
on
the
windows.
It's
a
fire
trap.
O
There
were
like
100
people
in
the
room
and
and
and
people
told
us
that
that
when
seniors
and
kids
went
there
that
they
could
hear
rats
in
the
ceiling,
the
the
staff
at
the
administration
made
fun
of
us
in
the
media.
The
community
came
before
us
and
said
their
rat
hair
is
falling
out
of
the
ceiling,
and
the
city
did
admit
to
us
that
they
caught
some
rats,
although
later
they
denied
it
and
then
and
then
we
we
asked
over
and
over
again
what
what
can
we
do
about
this?
So
we
will
go
to
our.
O
The
cra
board
is
separate
than
the
city,
so
we
had
this
community
meeting
at
fair
oaks
and
before
the
city
staff
rushed
up,
not
the
sierra
east,
the
city
staff
rushed
up
and
said.
The
mayor
wants
to
invite
you
here
today,
but
she
couldn't
be
here.
So
here's
a
video
and
they
played
the
video
and
the
video
says
that
she's
committed
to
renovate
the
building
and
the
community
started
a
kind
of
reward
they
were
upset.
Why
is
she
just
going
to
renovate
the
building?
O
That's
not
what
we
want,
so
so
thinking
that
the
staff
knew
what
the
city
the
community
wanted.
Instead
of
listening
to
the
feedback
from
the
staff,
which
is
what
we
were
planning
on,
doing,
they
tried
to
preempt
and
then
I
remember
the
community
stood
up
and
said:
look
there
was
a
press
release
sent
to
the
sentinel
bulletin
a
few
days
ago
saying
that
that
the
the
mayor
was
going
to
renovate
the
building,
so
we
listened
and
the
community
said
we
want
you
to
redo
this
building.
We
want
the
same
standard
as
everybody
else.
O
Why
can't
we
have
basketball
courts
and
swimming
places,
and
why
can't
we
have
computer
rooms
and
and
play
a
place?
That's
not
a
fire
trap
and
we
want
the
rats
out
of
the
building,
and
so
the
mayor
had
said:
okay
I'll
spend
the
300
000
renovate.
So
a
couple
months
later,
there's
a
press
conference-
and
this
is
my
concern-
it
seems
like
everything
is
about
press
conferences
and
t3.
O
So
the
press
conference
was
now
we're
going
to
spend
18
million
dollars
on
this
park
and
and
the
community.
If
the
community
says
yes,
we
should
spend
18
million
on
the
park.
Great
some
folks
said,
maybe
for
three
or
three
to
five
million.
We
could
do
what
we've
done
in
other
places
and
spend
the
rest
of
it
on
affordable
housing
or
something
like
that,
but
they
said
now
we're
going
to
spend
18
million.
So
then
we
got
a
whole
bunch
of
other
negative
feedback.
Why
are
we
spending
so
much
now?
O
O
Conversely,
we
we,
some
of
us,
have
been
working
on
the
jackson
house
for
years,
and
we
said
we
need
to
do
something
about
the
jacks
now
so
mayor
made
a
big
announcement
with
with
jeff
fenix,
say
we're
putting
in
city's
putting
in
a
million
jeff
fennington's
going
to
put
in
a
million
guess
what
a
few
months
later
quietly
cra
board
gets
the
bill,
and
so
this
is
the
problem
I
have.
Is
that
we're
a
separate
entity
we're
a
separate
legal
entity?
We
happen
to
outsource
this.
O
If
you
listen
to
the
community
they're
complaining
the
complaints
they
have
are
mostly
about
about
how
cra
interface
with
city
staff
and
how
things
got
bogged
down,
and
what
do
we
need
to
do
to
move
this
stuff
forward?
Is
it
that
we
have
to
offer
press
conferences
and
put
the
t3
logo
on
everything
to
make
it
happen,
or
what
do
we?
What
do
we
need
to
do
to
actually
get
movement
on
it?
I
don't
care.
O
F
I
I
I
I
When
we
entered
into
the
contract,
the
contract
provides
like
most
real
estate
contracts,
that
closing
the
city
would
get
exclusive
possession
of
the
property
with
no
tenants
in
it
and
they
agreed
that
they
would
not
have
any
tenants
in
the
building
their
tenant
then
said.
Well,
we
have
a
20-year
lease
on
the
property
and
we're
not
leaving
unless
we're
paid
a
substantial
sum
of
money.
Councilman.
D
I
A
Yeah,
let's
just
go
back
a
little
bit.
Mr
carlson
is
right
on
a
lot
of
the
situation
he's
talking
about,
but
I
have
to
be
give
give
credit
to
the
administration
critics
do.
The
original
plan
was
for
the
al
barnes
park.
That's
what
the
community
wanted.
It's!
What
the
seniors
wanted
was
al
barnes
all
right.
That
was
the
original
plan.
Then
fair
oaks
was
some
a
few
folk
community
food
folks
talked
about
fair
oaks.
Having
some
situations,
I
mean
a
couple
of
motions
about
fair
oaks
and
our
bars.
A
The
administration
called
me
and
said:
listen
for
our
bars.
It
may
cost
way
way
too
much
because
of
the
infrastructure
on
the
ground,
where
you
have
infrastructure
already
on
34th
street
and
we're
going
to
try
to
obtain
those
properties
and
so
forth,
and
then
a
compromise
we'll
make
this
mega
center
with
the
infrastructure
for
the
dance
step,
gymnastics
stand-alone
senior
center,
upgrade
on
the
football
basketball
court
baseball
and
the
possible
small
auditorium
with
at
the
at
the
center,
where
farrell's
is,
and
so
that
was
a
compound.
A
So
to
me
that
was
a
win-win
for
all
communities,
not
just
possibly
just
the
seniors,
but
for
our
young
people,
our
seniors,
our
athletes
to
have
a
complete
compound
center,
like
other
areas
have
so
that
was
the
compromise
I
have
to
give
kudos
to
the
administration
for
coming
to
me
asking
would
I
go
along
with
leaving
al
barnes
and
having
a
bigger
place
for
all
of
our
13
communities
in
east
tampa?
So
of
course,
I
I
said.
A
N
D
I
I
would
suggest
that
maybe
we
go
to
the
cac
and
have
them
have
a
contest
for
the
naming
of
this
park.
Q
Mataska,
just
a
few
general
comments.
You
know
something
that
I
heard
from
my
mother
a
few
months
ago
that
was
frustrating
was
she
went
over
to
highland
pines
to
see
the
house
that
she
lived
in
as
a
kid
before
my
family
moved
to
west
tampa
in
1972,
and
she
took
hillsborough
down
to
40th
and
went
you
know
her
route
and
she
said
it
looks
the
same
and
they
moved
out
of
that
neighborhood
that
area
50
years
ago.
Q
Q
Water
street
is
a
massive
development.
Midtown
is
a
30
plus
acre
parcel
again
everything
that's
happening
in
the
river,
our
real
estate
market.
We
have
certain
parts
of
the
community
that
want
us
to
stop
the
building.
You
know
in
south
tampa
and
whatnot,
but
yet
in
east
tampa
it's
like
the
land
that
time
forgot.
Q
Q
Why
is
it
that
the
middle
class
flourishes
throughout
other
parts
of
the
city
and
tampa
grows,
and
we
talk
about
so
many
people
are
moving
here
and
housing
is
unaffordable,
but
east
tampa
is
frozen
in
time
and
mr
hill,
who
I
know
for
several
years,
you
know,
has
talked
about
coming
from
washington
dc
and
coming
here
in
the
frustration
that
he
gets
for
a
little
thing.
Like
a
community
garden,
it
seems
that
people
they
want
to
work.
Q
They
want
to
watch
this
community
flourish,
they
want
to
lift
it
up,
but
it's
either
the
political
will
is
not
there.
The
political
intentions
are
focused
on
other
parts
of
the
city.
Instead
of
this
area,
which
again
we
have
the
largest
cra
in
the
state.
Okay,
we've
had
so
much
happen
in
the
last
century
in
tampa
urban
renewal.
All
this
growth,
so
many
things
and
east
tampa
is
just
it's
just
there,
and
the
people
are
literally
begging
just
to
have
a
a
hand
up.
Q
M
Miranda,
mr
mr
chairman,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
minnesota.
I
would
follow
up
on
what
you're
saying
in
other
for
all
the
audience
and
us
to
find
out
exactly
what
you
said
and
how
it
comes
into
play.
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
at
the
end
regarding
the
monies
that
are
distributed
throughout
the
city,
so
we
can
all
understand.
What's
going
on
so
I'll,
wait
until
the
end.
J
I
just
wanted
to
say
the
way
I
see
property
being
taken
away
from
average
african
people
through
cold
violation.
If
you're
going
to
look
at
penny
saver,
whatever
they
calling
it
now,
it
don't
set
to
any
standard
all
right
and
I've
seen
whole
african
community
disappear
down
there
where
armature
work.
This
used
to
be
a
thriving
african
community
over
there
that's
called
high
park.
J
Now
all
black
folks
live
there,
and
I
hear
this
little
saying
and
maybe
it's
not
politically
correct
to
say
it,
but
this
city
has
a
a
a
glam
of
hate,
h-a-t-e
capital
when
it
comes
to
dealing
with
the
issues
of
african
people,
and
it
should
be
shameful
that
20
years
of
this
cra
we
just
in
the
middle
of
a
discussion.
J
And
lastly,
I
would
say
this
to
you
with
all
due
respect:
councilman
ghoul,
we're
now
looking
in
our
community
in
the
city
of
tampa
that
which,
once
that
which
was
once
the
african
community,
we
were
talking
about
once
upon
a
time
once
upon
a
time
that
was
so.
That
was
our
history
and
it's
being
disappeared.
So
I
don't
have
no
problem
with.
If
we
don't
want
to
name
it
fair
oats,
but
I
do
not
want
to
see
the
culture
of
everything
that
was
african
just
like
kid
mason
center.
J
J
A
little
park
that
has
plenty
history,
and
yet
we
don't
have
no
footprints
in
this
city,
that
black
people
have
labored
hard
and
it
is
going
before
our
eyes,
and
I
would
just
say:
we've
been
two
hours
on
just
the
first
subject
matter,
we'll
be
here
all
night,
but
I
would
just
hope
you
all
take
this.
You
know,
as
respectfully
as
I
can
say
it,
and
to
the
mayor
of
particular.
J
D
B
B
We
have
a
process
when
we
want
tree
trimming
done.
We
fill
out
the
application,
but
when
we
come
in
and
actually
nick
thousands
of
dollars
is
no
application,
there's
no
process.
We
they
bring
people
in
to
the
board
to
present
their
little
power
point,
but
there's
nothing,
there's
nothing
to
say
the
process.
So
what
I'm
sorry.
B
Okay,
what
I
want
to
say
is
because
I
have
been-
and
I've
worked
40
some
years
in
government
and
I
was
trying
to
send
you
all
my
resume,
so
you
would
know
some
of
my
experiences
working
for
government,
but
I
was
trained
if
it's
not
documented
didn't
happen
right.
So
we
get
all
these
verbal
requests
for,
like
a
hundred
and
ninety
thousand
dollars
from
one
entity
in
the
community,
for
the
hook-up
in
the
city
of
tampa.
B
No
paperwork,
no
application,
this
verbal
request
and
it's
approved,
and
if
you
do
not
go
along
with
it,
then
it's
a
problem
because
she's
mad
she's
angry!
No,
I'm
about
process,
I'm
about
documentation
because
being
a
board
member.
We
have
a
responsibility
in
this
community
and
for
our
best
dollars.
I've
been
paying
my
taxes
for
over
30
years
in
east.
Tampa
where
my
resident
is.
I
pay
my
property
taxes.
E
B
C
B
B
We
have
to
apply
to
get
a
few
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
for
a
tree
treatment
grant,
but
to
get
a
half
a
million
dollars,
no
application
process
other
than
a
verbal
request,
and
it's
like
this
person's
still
there
entitled
to
get
it
when
you
can't
even
get
these
people
to
buy
a
soda
or
go
to
the
store
and
eat
something
about
a
paper.
A
newspaper
even
buy
a
bag
of
candy,
but
they
think
they're
entitled
to
get
money.
Why?
Because
our
chc
manager
director
have
guaranteed
them
like
they're
entitled.
B
I
have
a
problem
with
process
best
practice
is
a
paper
trail.
I
would
train
in
government
if
it's
not
documented,
it
did
not
happen
and
in
east
tampa
we're
taking
for
granted
as
though
we're
idiots
that
we're
not
and
and
we're
not.
We
don't
have
the
right
knowledge
or
education
to
know
what
is
required
for
best
practice.
I
know
I've
worked
all
of
my
life.
I've
dedicated
my
community
experience
over
40
years
in
government
and
I
know
that
documentation
is
critical.
We
don't
have
that
in
example.
That's
my
concern.
Thank
you.
So
very
much.
J
Sir,
how
much
money
do
we
have
in
our
funding?
How
much
money
is
in
the
east?
Tampa
funding
account
how
much
money
total
total
amount.
D
N
O
N
Let
me
allow
me
the
opportunity
to
look
at
what
has
been
encumbered
what
has
been
expended
and
what
available
funds.
We
have
I'd,
also
like
the
opportunity
to
to
categorize
the
grants
that
we
that
you
have
and
how
they
align
to
your
redevelopment
plan
so
that
you
can
track
the
money
and
see
how
you
are
meeting
the
goals
of
the
redevelopment
plan.
So,
if
you
allow
me
the
opportunity
to
work
with
staff
into
and
the
budget
team
to
redo
that-
and
we
could
provide
a
full
report
to
you.
N
O
N
J
J
Thank
you,
and
so
that
that's
one
of
the
fundamental
problem
that
there's
always
supposed
to
be
a
carryover
right,
a
carryover.
But
then
we
have,
I
mean
we
must
start
it
at
zero,
because
we
haven't
been
able
to
spend
money
on
projects
and
things
that
we
want
to
spend
money
on.
So
we
need
to
have
a
full
accounting
of
all
of
the
resources
for
our
account,
and
we
also
would
like
to
see
that
one
million
dollars
that
was
taken
off
the
table
put
back
into
the
camera.
N
A
N
O
We
when
we
started
three
years
ago,
we
asked
a
lot
of
questions
about
the
budget
and
went
through
in
detail
to
figure
out
how
much
money
was
there
and
how
how
much
we
could
allocate
and
spend
and
then
and
when
we
thought
that
all
or
most
of
it
had
been
allocated
in
some
way
and
then
suddenly
during
covet
the
administration
asked
us
to
put
in.
I
think
it
was
two
million
dollars
from
cra
money
toward
a
coveted
relief
fund,
and
we
asked
where
did
that.
O
Two
million
dollars
come
from
not
just
from
the
east
tampa,
but
from
all
those
cra
districts.
We
said
where'd
that
two
million
dollars
come
from
and
and
the
answer
was
that
it
was
in
the
interest,
account
and
I've
sat
on
a
lot
of
boards.
I
would
advise
a
lot
of
companies.
I've
never
seen
somebody
hide
money
in
an
interest
account,
and
so
we
made
a
motion
to
put
that
in
in
a
different
kind
of
account.
O
I
forgot
what
we
call
it,
but
a
reserve
fund
or
something
like
that,
but
it
it
should
be
transparent
to
the
public.
If
it's
in
an
interest
account
people
think
that
it's
just
interest
for
that
year.
They
don't
think
it's
a
carryover
from
year
to
year,
and
it
turns
out
there
was
millions
of
dollars
sitting
in
interest
accounts
that
we
didn't
know
that
we
could
allocate.
And
so
I
would
ask
you,
as
you
go
through
the
budget,
to
look
for
anything
like
that.
N
Okay,
I'll
definitely
look
at
it.
I
know
that
when
I
was
looking
at
the
the
budget
reports
just
preparing
and
looking
at
some
of
the
past
cra
meetings,
I
was
in
your
cra
annual
report.
It
shows
on
interest
bearing
accounts,
how
much
income
you've
had
for
that,
and
then
it's
care
it's
added
as
a
revenue,
so
I'll
make
sure
that
it's
all
broken
down
to
you
where,
where
the
accounts
are
so,
it
is
accounted
for
in
your
annual
report
as
revenue
and.
O
D
In
in
the
cra
records
that
I
have
the
east
campus
cac
excuse
me:
as
of
the
end
of
fiscal
year,
2021,
there
is
eight
and
a
half
million
dollars
a
little
over
eight
and
a
half
million.
E
E
N
N
N
What
I
will
show
you
in
the
account
is
what
we
started
the
fiscal
year
with
all
revenue.
So
if
there
are
lease
payments
interest
on
the
account,
what
the
revenue
is
all
of
your
expenses
and
encumbrances,
so
any
program
dollars
the
cac
or
the
board
has
well.
The
board
has
taken
action
on
to
encumber
that
money
so
specifically
for
projects
if
you've
encumbered
that
dollar
amount
it'll
show
under
encumbrances
I'll
show
you
what
that
money
is
and
how
much
available
funds
are
left.
D
One
one
side
is:
is
west
tampa
the
other
side
is
east.
Hampton.
E
N
N
D
D
And
mistake:
can
I
get
that
back
from
my
personal
after
the
meeting
after
the
meeting
and
actually
tim,
if
you
would
like
to
miss
tate,
make
miss
tata
copy,
please
thank
you.
H
D
H
Yes,
as
far
as
item
number
two
funding
and
subcommittees,
I
also
want
to
make
into
account
that
the
east
tampa
c
cac
can
compromise
of
a
very
big
area
just
over
the
course
of
covet
compared
to
other
areas,
which
was
also
brought
up.
In
the
last
cra
meeting.
We
have
had
a
numerous
amount
of
subcommittee
meetings,
along
with
the
high
turnover
of
board
members
and
just
to
reiterate
of
what.
I
H
Have
stated,
I
do
believe
at
this
meeting
we
do
need
to
take
into
con
take
into
consideration
the
bylaws
that
we
have
in
place.
They
are
outdated,
so
I'm
asking
legal
from
city
to
at
least
bring
our
standards,
seeing
as
though
we're
working
in
a
somewhat
abnormal
environment.
H
If
we
can
bring
our
standards
to
our
meeting
is
closest
to
what
the
city
has
as
far
as
attendance
as
far
as
how
subcommittees
go,
or
is
it
beneficial
for
the
community
not
to
take
away
from
the
current
board,
because
I
do
want
to
make
sure
we
make.
This
is
extremely
clear
that
the
current
board
that
is
on,
we
all
apply.
We
all
have
our
criterias
and
we
all
have
things
to
give
those
who
applied
on
subcommittees.
That
was
at
the
discretion
of
the
chair.
H
Again,
the
board
is
what
we
have
an
application
process
and
we
are.
If
you
are
on
a
subcommittee,
you
had
the
choice
to
also
be
on
the
board
and
just
a
little
plug.
We
do
have
a
opening
for
board
members.
So
if
you
have
a
expertise
in
the
area
that
we
need,
please
do
you
have
applications
with
you
right
now.
Please
grab
some
of
those
on
your
way
out,
but
and
back
back
to
funding.
H
H
As
far
as
the
budget
updates
over
the
course
of
the
past
chairs,
there
has
always
been
requests
made
for
our
for
legally.
I
would
like
all
of
those
requests
that
came
from
miss
goodly,
miss
burton
and
also
the
current
chair.
These
are
still
items
that
are
important.
They
are
important
to
the
community.
They
have
been
passed
by
the
previous
cac.
H
Those
things
need
to
be
brought
up
again,
and
the
funding
needs
to
be
added
back
to
it
and
also
adjust
it
to
the
current
items
on
our
our
budget,
so
if
that
can
also
be
if
that
can
be
implemented
as
well
as
far
as
what
we've
already
been
here
about
the
current
programs,
if
we
can
also
get
miss
travis
to
look
in
that
as
well,
we
have
programs
that
were
already
vetted
towards
if
we
can
all
if
we
can
have
that
lined
up
to
the
line
item
coming
up
to
our
next
budget
meeting,
which
is,
I
believe,
is
on
the
26th.
L
Okay,
in
regards
to
the
processes,
the
first
is
the
changing
of
chairs.
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
when
the
chair
changes,
everything
that
was
voted
on
previously
magically
disappears
and
nothing
is
implemented.
Although
it
was
adequately
voted
upon,
the
the
community
said.
This
is
what
we
want,
but
everything
stops.
So
if
we
could
implement
in
the
process
that,
regardless
of
who
the
chair
is,
if
we
said
we
want
purple
whatever
we
need
to
move
forward
with
that.
L
L
One
of
the
things
that
I
noticed
when
I
became
chair
was
that
we
were
spending
large
amounts
of
money
on
some
frivolous
things
like
I
said,
we
were
paving
roads,
doing
things
that
the
city
should
be
doing,
but
even
for
instance,
we
were
spending
money
with
the
sbdc
to
provide
business,
consulting
services
for
east
tampa
residents
and
we
found
out
that
they
weren't
doing
anything
different
from
us
than
they
were
already
doing.
L
And
so
when,
once
we
started
asking
questions
about
this,
we
realized
that
nothing
was
happening,
except
for
a
welcome
packet
being
sent
out
when
a
new
business
registered
and
whether
they
sent
the
packet
back
or
anything
that
was
all
up
to
them.
But
we
were
paying
35
000
towards
that
and
again
so
once
we
we
cut
that
the
other
thing
was
a
newsletter.
We
had
a
newsletter
that
was
going
out
four
times
a
year.
L
I
I
like
the
idea
of
a
newsletter,
but
we
were
paying
eighty
five
thousand
dollars
before
newsletters
and
that's
a
lot
of
that's
a
lot
of
funding.
So
that
was
another
thing
that
we
cut
and
it
wasn't
that
we
cut
it
because
we
didn't
like
the
idea
of
the
newsletter.
It's
four
newsletters
doesn't
cost
85
000,
and
so
we
were
noticing
huge
amounts
of
money.
That
was
just
constantly
and
again.
L
Remember
we
didn't
create
our
budget,
we
got
our
budget
handed
to
us,
and
people
were
previously
just
approving
it,
so
we
started
pulling
all
those
things
back
one.
The
other
thing
I
was
going
to
mention
was
the
interest,
because
we
learned
about
that
during
coven
and
we
actually
east
tampa.
We
actually
voted
and
talked
about
creating
our
own
program
to
help
our
businesses
with
our
own
money
and
we
went
through
the
whole
process
I
sat
down.
L
To
do
it
and
the
program
that
I
shared
and
we
just
we
all
agreed
on,
we
were
told
we
could
not
do,
but
that
the
cities
program
would
get
money
in
the
hands
of
businesses
by
may-
and
this
was
at
the
april
2020
meeting,
I
know
for
a
fact
that
I
have
clients
who
were
still
waiting
to
get
their
rent
paid
on
their
business
in
october
of
2020.,
so
the
money
did
not
go
out
in
may.
As
you
all
know,
the
program
had
to
be
revamped
several
times.
L
I
said
from
the
beginning
that
no
businesses
were
going
to
be
able
to
meet
the
criteria.
The
criteria
started
off
at
five
years.
Then
it
went
to
three
years.
It
just
was
not
anything
conducive
to
businesses
and
that
each
all
you're
doing
is
limiting
the
amount
that
businesses
are
able
to
to
access,
and
now
I
find
out
later
that
the
reason
it
it
was.
L
The
way
we
want
it
to,
but
again
another
example
of
how
we
said
this
is
what
we
want
to
do
to
get
the
hands
of
funds
in
our
businesses
hands,
and
we
were
told
no,
even
with
the
fact
of
paying
for
paying
for
utilities
at
first
it
was
just
electric
and
water,
and
I
pushed
back
and
said:
why
is
it
not
including
all
utilities?
I
was
told
that
legally,
we
could
not
pay
it,
and
I
pushed
back
and
said:
utilities
include
phone
utilities
includes
internet.
L
We
realized
that
none
of
our
programs
were
being
marketed,
and
so
we
decided
that
we
wanted
to
bring
on
a
marketing
person,
so
we
voted
and
it
was
approved
that
we
would
hire
a
marketing
person,
but
we
got
pushback
because
we
were
told
the
city
of
tampa's
marketing
department
is
supposed
to
be
marketing.
Our
programs-
and
they
can
do
it-
the
city
of
tampa-
has
not
promoted
one
of
our
programs
yet
and
I
don't
think
they
promote
most
of
the
cra
programs.
R
Actually,
I
have
a
question.
I
have
a
quick
question
that
it's
about
something
you
just
mentioned
at
the
at
the
top
of
your
comments
on
how
every
single
time,
within
two
years
your
chair,
keeps
turning
over,
but
I
notice
that
you
aren't
on
the
cac
any
more.
So
is
there
a
reason
that
former
chairs
don't
stay
on
as
a
requirement
for
two
more
years.
L
R
P
M
R
Because
that
yeah,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
was
saying
it's
something,
I'm
allowed
to
say
I'm
still
learning,
but
yes,
because
not
not
to
take
away
from
new
ideas,
but
every
organization,
I
know
that's
successful,
keeps
their
institutional
knowledge
to
some
degree.
So
I
would
love
to.
I
know
you.
Somebody
else
mentioned
redoing
some
bylaws
and
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
talk
about
how
we
retain
one
or
two
members.
However,
the,
however,
you
all
believe
it
would
be
best
to
keep
that
institutional
knowledge.
O
L
Newsletter
four
times
it
was
our
it
was
mailed
out.
It
was
our.
We
had
like
a
standard,
just
open,
folder
thing
and
it
was
everything
was
written
and
I
mean
everything
was
written
for
us.
We
didn't
have
to
do
anything
but
85
000
and
my
opinion
was
too
much
so
when
saw
became
cherry
you'll
see
a
lot
of
things
were
taken
out
and
it
was
because
I
felt
that
this
was
ridiculous
and
we
weren't
gonna
we're
not
gonna
spend
money
like
that.
O
And
just
one
thing
for
miss
travis,
you
heard
again
feedback
about
interfacing
with
the
city
and
maybe
I
think
of
this
the
wrong
way,
but
I
think
of
us
as
a
as
a
entrepreneurial,
related
organization,
we're
small
compact.
We
should
be
nimble
and
be
able
to
move
quickly,
but
the
city
is
slow
to
move
and
slow
to
change.
There's
a
lot
of
bureaucracy
and
there's
certain
things
like
purchasing
and
maybe
hiring
that
we
have
to
go
through
the
city
but
or
or
at
least
follow
the
policies
of
the
city.
O
But
if
there's,
if
the,
if
the
communication
department
is,
is
organized
around
promoting
the
mayor,
we
need
a
communication
vehicle
to
promote,
what's
happening
in
the
community.
So
the
community
knows
about
it
and
if
it,
if
it's
faster
and
cheaper
for
us
to
outsource
it,
we
have
the
ability
to
outsource.
So
we
should
do
that.
We
shouldn't
just
rely
on
city
staff,
especially
if
there
are
transfer
payments
going
on
where
we're
subsidizing
city
departments,
by
paying
hiked
up
prices
like
85
000
for
a
newsletter
all.
L
The
the
chairs,
during
my
time
I
guess
they
brought
back
the
chair
meetings
and
so
several
of
the
cras
got
together
and
said
that
we
possibly
might
look
into
hiring
a
marketing
firm
and
we
all
utilizing
it
and
sharing
it,
but
again
once
chairs
change,
then
we
act
like
that.
Never
happened,
we
didn't
vote
on
it
and
it
just
goes
into
no
man's
land.
P
M
P
P
I
saw
with
our
secretary
of
agriculture
at
silver
road,
so
if
you're,
just
you
know-
and
and
this
gets
to
the
bottom
of
really
one
of
the
things
I'm
going
to
say-
which
is
that,
I
think
all
seven
of
us
who
are
here
have
a
real
passion
for
for
east
hampden
for
making
sure
that
communities
that
have
been
left
behind
for
too
long
are
are
no
longer
left
behind
part
of
the
challenge
that
we
have
right
now,
and
I
think
that
it
that
sort
of
informs
a
lot
of
the
frustration
that
we're
seeing
here
is
that
you
know.
P
I
always
say
that
whenever
there's
a
category
one
hurricane
in
the
city
disadvantage
in
marginalized
areas
have
a
category
three
or
four
hurricane.
That's
just
the
way
it
is,
and
it's
unfortunate
it's
terrible,
but
we
do
have
a
lot
of
hurricanes
right
now
in
the
city
of
tampa
and
in
florida.
That
includes
inflation
inflation's
about
eight
percent
higher.
I
think
in
the
tampa
bay
area,
it's
about
10
11.
P
We
have
housing,
27
increase
in
in
rental
costs
over
the
last
year,
gas
well
over
four
dollars
going
higher
and
higher
and
higher.
So
in
other
words,
if
a
cra's,
basic
idea
or
or
purpose
is
to
make
sure
that
communities
have
the
tools
that
they
need
to
make
it
into
the
middle
class
to
make
it
to
the
working
class
right
that
fight's
getting
harder
and
harder
and
harder.
P
I
know
one
of
the
things
I
look
forward
on
voting
next
month.
I
don't
think
it's
controversial,
we
pushed
it
a
month
is
but
the
skill
center.
You
know.
One
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
see
in
east
tampa
is
to
invest
in
training
training
so
that
young
people
who
want
to
a
pathway
to
the
middle
class
right
can
get.
P
It
part
of
the
problem
is
you
know
we
passed
an
apprenticeship
ordinance,
maybe
a
year
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
and
always
tell
people
you
can
make
50
60
70
000,
you
know
being
a
welder
or
a
plumber,
electrician,
etc.
Take
a
look
at
the
cost
of
living.
What
is
50
60,
70
000,
taking
in
in
in
the
city
of
tampa?
That's
the
problem
is
that
the
middle
class
is
getting
further
and
further
away
from
people
as
an
aspiration,
because
those
basic
necessities
of
life
are
just
skyrocketing
in
florida.
P
R
Thank
you
I
just
to
to
to
talk
to
piggyback
on
what
councilman
carlson
was
talking
about
in
terms
and
what
you,
mr
lee,
had
mentioned
about,
having
the
about
talking
about
media
presence
or
marketing
and
again
I
apologize
for
my
ignorance
on
this,
but
we
don't
have
a
cra
staffer
who
deals
with
marketing.
R
L
R
L
R
Yeah,
okay!
Well,
but
the
thing
about
having
your
own
too,
is
it
doesn't
preclude
you
from
from
getting
from
having
a
consultant
to
to
do
some
extra
things
too,
but.
D
Thank
you
to
to
miss
her
talk's
point
between
you,
miss
burton
and
miss
tate.
You
have
a
wealth
of
knowledge
through
these
presidents
is,
is,
is
your
board
having
successions
of
people
coming
up
behind
you
that
have
this
wealth
that
isn't
going
to
start
anew
each
time
a
president
comes
in
I.e,
I.e,
meaning
you
have.
D
Vision
and
goal
where
plans
are
already
set
in
and
then
you
have
your
five-year
goal
so
that
when
presidents
come
and
go,
the
still
the
basic
wants
and
needs
and
goals
are
already
set
forth
so
that
the
next
group
of
presidents
come
in
sets
their
goals
for
the
future,
all
right,
miss
tate,
I'm
sorry
I
should
be
directing
this
to
you.
Is
this
in
your
plans
now.
S
That
was
my
vision
from
the
beginning.
Mrs
burton
is
still
on
the
board.
I
hope
and
pray
that
she
remains.
We
are
in
the
process
of
elections
of.
Is
it
six
six
six
board
members,
but
you
are
right.
All
of
you
are
right.
We
need
to
maintain
irregardless
of
how
we
feel
about
one
another.
We
gotta
get
get
get
over
our
feelings,
but
it's
that
wealth
natasha
is
not
far
away.
S
S
Connie
burton,
as
I
stated,
is
still
on
the
board.
I'm
on
the
board.
You
you
have
to
have
that
so
that
you,
you
don't
get
lost
and
you
you're
not
there
trying
to
figure
out.
Oh
my
god,
where
did
I
go?
How
do
I
get
there?
I
understood
that
they
were
working
on
the
house
in
rehab.
I
didn't
say
this
not
scratch
it.
Let's
not
worry
about
that.
I'm
pushing
forward
I'm
fighting
for
it,
because
I
want
to
see
that
and
it
was
started
with
natasha
connie
kept
it
going.
S
I
want
to
keep
it
going.
I
want
that
to
happen,
so
I'm
not
in
here
pushing
pushing
away
the
thoughts
and
ideas
of
previous
chair
women,
I'm
embracing
them,
and
I
and
I'm
learning
from
them,
I'm
sitting
at
their
feet.
I'm
learning
so.
L
It's
difficult
because
if
your
chair
for
a
year
as
I
mentioned,
the
tree,
trimming
grant
took
a
year
and
a
half,
so
if
I
weren't
re-elected
it
would
have
fell
off
too
because
it
took
a
year
and
a
half
to
get
implemented.
So
even
if
you
have
ideas
of
two
three
four
years
in
a
in
advance,
if
you
don't
get
reelected
as
chair,
nothing
gets
pushed
through.
D
S
Okay,
my
name
is
denise
james
and
I'm
a
lifelong
resident
of
tampa
retired
from
the
state
of
florida
after
32
years
and
have
been
a
volunteer
in
the
community
for
over
40
years.
Some
of
what
I
was
going
to
say
has
already
been
said.
I
wanted
to
re-emphasize
the
fact
that
it
may
appear
that
we're
not
doing
a
whole
lot,
because
we
do
have
a
turnover
and
when
that
turnover
starts,
like
you've
said
and
like
someone
else
has
already
said
that
person
starts
over.
S
So
it
ought
to
be
a
way
that
we
can,
when
we've
implemented,
something
that
that
process
can
continue
with
the
next
person
a
perfect
example
one
we
had
the
skills
center,
I'm
glad
you
mentioned
the
skills
center,
they
are
taking
a
role
in
a
building,
that's
been
there
a
hundred
years
and
has
just
been
sitting
dormant,
and
they
saw
the
need
to
utilize
that
and
bring
in
other
non-profits
to
support
them,
and
they
came
to
us
and
asked
for
money,
and
I
made
the
nomination
after
we
did
some
research.
S
It
wasn't
a
one-time
shot.
They
came
more
than
one
time
and
presented
us
with
literature
and
material,
and
it
seemed
like
a
good
thing.
Well,
what
was
about
to
happen
is
some
some
suggested
that
we
give
them
at
250
000
this
year,
250
000
next
year,
which
meant
those
people
coming
in
new
may
decide
that
that's
not
a
good
use
of
their
money
when
they
come
in.
Why
do
we
have
that
commitment?
S
S
That
was
my
prim,
my
thought
on
it
and
it
seemed
to
work,
and
I
hope
that
we're
gonna
that
that's
gonna
be
a
successful
venue.
The
other
thing
I
we
have
a
lot
of
momentum
going
tonight.
S
I
guess
you
can
see
that
this
has
been
a
long
time
coming,
so
I'm
hoping
that
it
won't
take
that
maybe
we
can
meet
together
on
a
more
regular
basis,
maybe
quarterly,
or
something
like
that,
so
that
our
time
it
may
not
take
as
much
time
but
you'll
hear
what
we
have
to
say
and
how
important
it
is-
and
I
hope
also
that
we'll
get
the
minutes
from
this,
so
that
we
can
see
what
we
suggested
and
that
our
ideas
were
heard
and
and
it's
in
print
for
follow-up,
but
I
have
more
things
to
say,
but
someone
else
has
already
done
it.
G
Just
briefly
to
follow
up
clint
paris
again
I
serve
on
the
board.
We
received
an
email
today
with
a
a
current
budget
and
on
it
it
states
that
the
available
funds
for
our
cra
is
fourteen
million
four
hundred
and
eleven
thousand
dollars.
That's
that's
what
it
states
it
could
not,
but
that's
what
it
states
in
it.
So
so
just
get
that
out.
There
come
real
quickly
on
the
processes.
G
I
said
earlier,
I
might
not
be
the
smartest
guy,
but
you
know
I
can
get
it
and
when
I
got
on
the
c,
it
was
amazing
the
amount
of
information
that
was
thrown
at
the
new
board,
the
cac
committee
in
a
short
period
of
time,
so
the
process
of
actually
indoctrinating
from
robert's
rules
of
order
to
the
the
the
background
statute
that
applies
to
us
to
how
east
tampa
is
situated,
because
it's
a
very
unique
animal.
Just
like
you
guys
guys.
I'm
a
politician,
I
get
elected
by
the
community.
G
If
we
don't
do
the
job
that
they
elect
us
to
do,
we
get
voted
out
in
two
years.
That's
part
of
the
transition
component,
so
it's
a
very
different
animal
to
some
of
the
other
cras
where
you
get
to
kind
of
pick
and
choose
who
gets
to
be
there
in
this
situation,
the
citizens
decide
in
east
tampa
or
the
the
members
of
the
partnership
decide
who
gets
to
serve
so
from
that
component
of
it.
There's
a
there
can
easily
be
a
groundswell
of
brand
new
people
coming
in
who
are
just
concerned
and
passionate
about
community.
G
So
I
recommend
that
you
establish
your
own
city
of
tampa
cra
university,
and
that
is
where
you
have
a
curriculum
for
training,
indoctrinating,
new
members
or
elected
on
exactly
what
is
happening
with
their
their
cra.
So
they
know
how
and
what
to
do
we
were
thrown
in
and
there
were
some
power
points
and
it
flew
by
really
quickly.
G
We
kind
of
sat
dormant
when,
when
the
gentleman
that
left
johnson
when
he
was
when
ed
johnson
left
and
then
shortly
thereafter,
there
was
some
turnover
in
staff,
and
so
we
were
kind
of
in
no
man's
land,
because
the
people
coming
to
try
to
tell
us
what
was
going
on.
They
didn't
have
any
knowledge
either
they
were
basically
standing
up.
G
You
know
saying
so
I
think
that
that's
a
a
significant
component
from
a
policy
and
procedure
standard
every
now
and
again,
like
the
skills
center,
we
get
an
unusual
request
that
seems
to
come
out
of
left
field.
It
kind
of
comes
out
of
nowhere,
but
everybody
sitting.
There
knows
this
is
something
good
for
the
community,
and
the
last
thing
I'd
want
to
see
is
something
good
for
the
community
get
stopped,
because
we
had
thought
enough
in
advance
to
have
a
process
in
place
to
make
sure
it
moves
along.
We
need
to
anticipate
some
of
these.
G
Larger
items
got
14
million
dollars.
There.
People
are
going
to
come
trying
to
get
that
money,
that's
just
the
reality
of
it.
They're
coming
and
they're
going
to
come
hard
and
they're
coming
at
you
all
they're
coming
at
us
to
try
to
get
some
of
that
money.
We
need
to
anticipate
large
dollar
requests
coming
and,
if
we're
going
to
have
a
different
process
for
how
we
look
at
those
compared
to
the
much
smaller
requests
that
come
through
so
from
a
policy
and
procedure
standard,
I
think
we
need
to
really
look
at
I'm
asking
you
all.
G
R
I'm
sorry,
mr
paris.
Yes
again,
you
talked
about
this
goes
back
to
this
retaining
institutional
knowledge,
and
I
know
that
you're
considering
looking
at
bylaws,
do
you
think
I'm.
G
I
I
Most
of
the
cra
cacs
are
set
up
where
there
are
representatives
groups
that
send
automatically
members
to
it.
So
you
have
some
continuity,
because
you've
got,
for
instance,
in
downtown
the
downtown
partnership
that
sends
somebody
in
drew
park.
You
have
hillsborough
community
college
and
the
aviation
authority
have
designated
seats
in
west
tampa
and
some
of
the
other
cras
neighborhood
groups
having
designated
seat
on
the
cac
east
tampa
and
ebor
are
the
two
outliers
from
that
by
your
policy
in
east
tampa
the
c
e
stamp
of
part.
I
The
partnership
serves
the
board
directions
of
the
partnership
serves
as
the
cac,
and
so
you
all
have
by
your
policy
and
rules
basically
said.
Okay,
whoever
is
the
board
of
directors
of
the
partnership
is
going
to
act
as
the
east
campus
cac
and
the
rules
that
they
follow
under.
I
think
about
half
their
board
rolls
off,
they
have
votes
every
year
and
about
half
of
the
positions
are
open
every
year,
which
has
led
to
this
large.
I
A
I
So
part
of
this,
I
guess
is
you
know,
you
know
if
I
mean
the
we
have,
because
the
partnership
is
a
separate
legal
entity,
not
a
city
of
tampa
entity.
You
know
we
have
not
dictated
to
the
partnership,
how
they
make
those
elections.
What
they
do
is
they
submit
their
board
of
directors
names
to
you
all
and
if
you
all
have
any
concerns
with
those
names,
then
you
voice
those
concerns,
but
otherwise
we
have
basically
a
seated
to.
R
B
B
Okay,
as
I
look
at
the
east
town
for
community
revitalization
partnership,
the
etcrp
we
have
bylaws,
those
bylaws
are
where
the
members
of
the
community
are
in
the
in
the
audience
and
they
are
elected
from
the
community
to
participate
at
the
chc
members.
So
we
are
governed
under
those
bylaws
by
the
east.
B
Hampton
community
revaluation
revitalization
partnership,
which,
a
couple
of
months
ago
we
had
asked
the
manager,
mr
mccray,
if
he
would
check
with
the
city
attorney
to
see
if
we
were
able
to
get
a
501c3
and
report
back
to
the
partnership,
because
that
would
give
us
the
ability
to
you
know,
raise
funds
or
whatever
a
valid
leverage.
B
So
we
would
mirror
the
hebrew
thc
battle,
so
we
do
have
bylaws,
but
it
is
the
east
capital,
community,
revitalization,
partnership
by
law
that
we
are
governed
by
with
the
cac
in
east
tampa
and
and
we
a
lot
of
times
we
get
away
from
understanding
those
are
in
place
because
that's
where
the
community
representatives
voted
on
to
come
on
and
represent
us
at
the
cac.
B
So
thank
you,
our
city
attorney,
for
bringing
that
out.
I'm
certainly
glad
that
we're
able
to
understand
that,
but
there.
R
B
Bylaws
in
place
and
mr
parish
attorney
paris
is
for
me
with
no
dialogue,
but
it's
the
revivalization
partnership.
I
know
that
is
the
rise
for
the
cac
to
be
governed
by
and
we
talk
about
governance.
Those
are
the
things
that
we're
governed
by.
G
G
So
from
a
processing
standpoint,
it
has
to
be
much
more
robust
from
from
the
from
robert's
rules
of
order
from
how
information
is
communicated,
how
its
transition
to
new
members
when
they
come
in,
that's
probably
the
most
important
aspect
of
procedures
that
we
need
developed
to
decide.
Thank
you,
okay.
Thank
you.
A
A
You
know
you
look
at
west
tampa's
model,
they
have
specific
slots
for
specific
people
with
certain
expertise
to
be
on
that
board
and
that's
why
they
can
move
and
do
certain
things
there's
nothing
wrong
with
having
a
community
vote,
but
you
we
need
to
designate
certain
spots
on
that
board.
Certain
number
of
community
members
on
the
board.
A
Now
you
have
your
community
people
and
you
have
people
with
expertise
to
maybe
make
up
that
13-member
board,
but
to
be
able
to
say
I'm
changing
nine
people
at
one
time
on
a
board
who
have
no
expertise
who
have
to
learn
a
learning
curve.
It
takes
you
almost
a
year
to
even
figure
out
what
the
cac
is
about,
and
that's
just
the
facts
of
that
and
I've
said
this
time
and
time
again,
but
then
we
get
into
political
stuff.
Well,
we
don't
want
to
upset
the
people.
A
No,
we
we
it's
our
job
to
make
sure
we
function
this
poor,
functional
way
to
help
the
people.
I
understand
it
better,
I'm
with
them
I've
set
on
the
board
and
to
be
able
to
move
east
town,
make
it
thrive.
Mr
paris
is
right:
there
really
aren't
any
bylaws.
You
have
the
partnership.
Bylaws
and
most
people
get
confused
of
what
the
cec
is
with
the
partnership.
A
So
until
you
fix
the
problem,
we're
going
to
continue
to
have
the
same
problem
so
now
miss
travis
being
there
with
the
expertise.
Now
it's
going
to
come
a
time
to
where
I
think
now
we
talk
about
a
reset,
and
now
we
reset
of
that
13
report,
how
it
should
be
composed
and
made
up
to
community
members
of
each
community
or
whatever,
and
then
you
have
expert
expertise.
Members
from
that
community,
now
we're
talking.
We
have
a
boy
and
you
keep
some
consistency
toward
you.
A
You
know
in
our
fraternity
the
the
palmar
stays
on
as
a
board
member.
He
doesn't
just
leave
because
of
the
continuity
and
now
well.
What
used
to
what
used
to
happen?
How
did
that
happen?
Now
I
I
can
talk
to
the
chairman,
because
I
was
a
chamber
and
say
this
is
what
goes
on?
That's
how
you
you
just
what
we
did
so,
I
think
hopefully,
with
with
miss
travis
coming
on,
we
can
now
and
mr
mcrae,
we
now
can
do
a
reset
retreat
or
something
like
that.
A
R
I
just
came
from
sitting
on
the
variance
review
board
and
we
had
an
open
tree
arborist
position,
because
we
couldn't
find
anybody
to
fill
it
who
lived
in
the
city
of
tampa
and
didn't
have
a
ton
of
conflicts.
R
I
mean
three
years
would
at
least
give
you
a
little
bit
of
buffer
or
maybe
vote,
and
and
if
you
did
three
years,
you'd
you'd
be
changing
a
third
of
the
board
instead
of
half
of
the
board.
So
there
are
different
ways
to
look
at
keeping
the
system
you
have,
but
keeping
the
institutional
knowledge
for
as
long
as
possible.
R
S
C
J
J
We
have
a
few
loyal
people,
that's
willing
to
be
with
the
rest
of
the
workers,
and
that
is
a
problem.
We
recognize
that,
but
to
the
extent
that
this
community
is
able
to
ask
this
for
small
items,
that's
a
win-win
for
everybody,
and
so
I
would
just
hope
you
don't
lose
sight
of
that
if
we
got
people
from
because
it's
something
that
goes
on
in
this
city,
not
to
you
all,
I'm
not
talking
about
y'all
that
happened
to
certain
professional
black
folks.
J
They
isis
better
on
the
other
side
of
the
track
and
that's
real,
but
the
people
that
is
committed
to
just
having
a
basic
understanding
that
we
can
bring
dignity,
start
creating
wealth,
giving
opportunity.
I
must
say
this:
I
was
in
washington
dc
one
time
and
I
didn't
know
very
much,
but
I
was
going
on
what
the
newspaper
was
saying
about
the
mayor
at
that
time,
mary
and
barry-
and
I
said
ain't
no
way
they
should
have
that
man.
J
They
was
assured
of
a
job
through
programs
that
was
set
aside
for
that
community,
and
we
just
got
to
get
back
to
that.
We
got
to
see
it
and
that's
the
process
of
our
young
people
learning
when
they
can
see
professional
black
folks
in
the
community
or
people
that
want
to
be
on
the
right
side
of
history
coming
back
into
the
community
to
assist
them
right
now
we
just
got
a
a
bundle
of
hopelessness
and
it
don't
matter
how
many
police
officers
we
call
out
there.
It
has
not
been
able
to
solve
the
problem.
D
O
O
I've
sat
in
a
couple
of
the
cac
board
meetings,
but
I
haven't
heard
your
voices
as
I
have
tonight,
and
obviously,
we've
got
a
lot
of
very
talented
professionals
with
with
deep
expertise,
and
thank
you
all
for
putting
in
your
time
tonight
and
and
at
the
cic
meetings
and
it's
it
makes
it
doubly
triply
frustrating
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
deliver
for
you
and
I
apologize
for
that,
but
also,
if
any
of
you
want
to
meet
individually,
I
think
you
can't
meet
together
because
of
sunshine
just
like
we
can't
meet
together,
but
if
any
of
you
want
to
meet
individually
would
love
to
get
to
know
any
of
you
better
and
and
hear
more
about
what
your
ideas
are.
O
I'm
only
one
of
seven
so
you'll
have
to
meet
with
the
other
six
also,
but
I
we
we'd
love
to
hear
more
about
your
ideas.
Thank
you.
N
D
N
N
But
if
you
have
a
plan-
and
you
have
a
commitment
from
the
community
and
for
the
people
that
are
implementing
boots
on
the
ground,
to
do
the
work,
it
will
happen.
It
takes
time
and
it
takes
patience.
But
it's
going
to
take
us
developing
a
relationship
with
each
other
of
trust
and
open
communication.
We're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
that.
Staff
does
not
have
all
of
the
ideas
we
do
not
have
all
of
the
ideas.
N
N
The
the
governance
piece
is
a
big
part
of
it.
That's
a
it's
a
it's
a
big
part
of
the
transition.
I've
done
it
before.
I
think
we
can
do
it
again
where
you
put
the
bylaws
in
place,
and
you
can
rest
you
can
have
that
continuity
of
service
and
the
wealth
of
knowledge
that
comes
up
along
with
holding
that
chair
position.
N
What
I
would
suggest
is
a
few
months
out,
probably
having
a
retreat
of
some
sort
with
the
cac
members
and
the
partnership
members
and
just
putting
in
a
different
environment
just
getting
out
of
our
normal
environment
and
putting
some
paper
on
the
wall
post-its
and
kind
of
brainstorming
some
of
this
stuff.
What
worked?
What
didn't
work,
how
we
can
move
forward
and
then
developing
a
policy
and
planning
recommendations
to
come
before,
for
the
cac
to
consider
and
to
come
back
to
the
cra
board
to
consider,
approve
and
adopt
there.
N
There's
a
lot
of
massaging
and
trust
that
needs
to
be
reestablished
here
and
the
community
is
willing
to
do
the
work.
The
administration
is
willing
to
do
the
work,
I'm
willing
to
do
the
work,
and
so
I
I
would
recommend
I'm
going
to
come
to
the
east,
tampa
cra
and
talk,
miss
tate,
and
I
we
have
lunch
on
monday.
I
think
to
just
do
a
do
a
retreat
and
it
may
be
a
two-day
retreat
where
we
talk
about
governance
policies,
programs
applications
intake
some
of
the
procedural
things
and
also
forward
looking.
N
Q
Miss
travis,
we
appreciate
your
awards
and
also
your
reputation
and
everything
that
council
member
citroe
mentioned
at
the
beginning.
You
know
when
we
discussed
you
in
this
interim
position
until
the
end
of
september.
Q
Q
Q
I
have
faith
in
you.
Your
reputation
speaks
for
itself.
You
were
very
successful
in
other
cities
in
lakeland.
I
want
you
to
bring
those
ideas
here.
I
believe
in
you,
and
I
know
that
we
can
get
things
going,
but
we
have
to
end
this
frustration.
The
community
is
is
begging
when
they
shouldn't
have
to
beg
right
because
the
rest
of
the
city,
it's
working
out
for
them,
but
here
we
are
frozen
in
time
instead
of
moving
forward.
So
you
have
my
support.
Q
M
And
you
know
from
what
I've
said
here
and
listen
and
I
wrote
down,
I
don't
know
if
I'll
be
able
to
read
it
because
I
wrote
it
and
but
I
wrote
everything
when
everyone
said
and
to
get
the
ideas
and
memorize
what's
happening
and
there's
been
so
many
individuals
came
up
with
good
ideas
and
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
disconnect.
It's
like
a
car,
that's
got
a
new
engine
and
the
battery
won't
start.
M
So
everything
is
new
in
the
car,
but
we
don't
have
a
battery
and
I'm
putting
things
into
perspective
into
what
I
gathered
from
the
conversation.
I
certainly
believe
and
miss
travis.
She
has
done
in
my
short
period
of
time
in
knowing
her,
but
her
reputation
in
lakeland
was
stellar.
It
was
just
superb
and
I
think
she's
going
to
do
the
job
that
all
of
you
are
looking
for.
M
I,
I
see
a
lot
of
ideas,
but
I
see
also
conflict
among
some
of
the
ideas
not
all
of
them,
but
some
very
few
of
them
and,
and
I
think
going
forward,
it's
got
to
happen.
You
cannot
stay
still
and
let
somebody
else
flourish
because
you're
not
going
up
you're
going
down,
then
no
matter
who
you
are
where
you
come
from.
M
You
got
to
have
the
same
opportunity
and
the
same
things
done
so
I
want
to
have
close
eyes
with
mrs
nicole
travis
to
make
sure
that
the
information
we
get
is
100
correct
and
that
you
get
the
same
report
from
her
that
we
get
that's
100
correct,
I'm
not
one
that
likes
to
fool
around
too
much.
I
like
to
see
numbers
and
I
like
to
see
progress
within
those
numbers
and
if
you're
not
getting
it
done,
you
have
money
in
the
bank
money.
The
bank
doesn't
give
you
anything
you're,
not
doing
anything
with
it.
M
D
Just
just
very
quickly,
mr
massey,
I
I
see
that
one
of
the
cac
members
has
left.
I
I
particularly
don't
care
if
they
don't
have
a
quorum.
I
would
still
like
to
proceed
with
this
is.
Is
we're
still
able
to
do
that?
Correct.
I
I
D
Okay,
fine,
let's,
let's,
let's
go,
we've
got
three
more
agenda
items,
if
just
just
to
simplify
things.
If
we
want
to
combine
them
or
do
we
want
to
keep
them
separate,
I
mean
I'm,
I'm
I'm
here
all
night.
If
you
want,
I
know
some
of
my
colleagues
have
family
and
they
want
to
go
home,
but
if
we
would
like
to
combine
all
three
of
the
items
discuss,
what
is
ever
else
is
on
the
cac
member's
mind.
D
Anybody
would
like
to
speak
ca,
cic
members
program
and
grants.
B
I
would
like
to
say-
and
I
do
think.
B
B
I
have
a
problem
once
again
and
I
will
say
that
again
to
you
guys
because
being
a
person
that
worked
for
government-
and
I
was
trained-
if
it's
not
documented,
didn't
happen,
and
too
often
in
each
council
we
get
verbal
requests,
there's
no
application
and
dollars.
B
Thousands
of
dollars
are
dispersed
to
organizations
and
there's
no
paper
trail.
So
my
thing
is,
if
I
would
like
for
the
city
attorney
to
look
at
that
process
and
make
sure
that
we
are
following
best
practices
and
making
sure
that
we're
accountable
for
the
best
use
of
our
dollars,
especially
my
tax
dollars
that
I
pay
for
my
home
and
all
of
that
in
each
camp.
So
that
is
my
thing
and
I
I
have
no.
Nothing
is
nothing
personal
for
the
skill
center
for
any
of
those
organizations.
B
I
just
want
what
is
best
for
our
community.
We
deserve
to
be
treated
as
any
community.
In
example.
I
was
raised
in
south
tampa
with
wales,
market
and
all
of
those
many
years
ago,
but
we
could
they
flourished
these
tampa.
It
seemed
to
be
stuck
in
a
loop
because
we
cannot
agree
on
anything
because
it
is,
though,
that
we're
being
used
as
hard
in
a
process
to
get
grant
dollars
for
our
zip
codes
to
get
bond
dollars.
B
For
all
of
these
things
that,
but
none
of
it's
benefiting
the
east
cambridge
community,
the
skill
centers.
I
have
nothing
against
them.
I
have
a
lot
of
respect
for
the
services
that
mr
ward
and
missouri
provide,
but
celeste
roberts
and
michelle
van
long
were
at
a
meeting
last
year
at
the
hillsborough
county
budget
committee,
and
they
only
it
and
they
never
shared
their
position
with
that
until
with
us
until
two
months
ago.
B
B
That's
going
on
east
town
and
follow
the
dollars,
so
we
can
see
what's
really
going
on
in
each
camera,
but
I
I'm
very
uncomfortable
with
the
dollars
that
are
being
dispersed
from
four
houses,
a
hundred
and
ninety
thousand
dollars,
and
we
come
back
and
that's
for
a
half
a
million
to
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Then.
B
I
have
a
problem
with
that
and
I
want
to
be
a
person
that
take
you
at
full
value,
but
right
now
I
am
concerned
that
our
community
is
being
deceived,
lied
to
and
just
not
being
treated
fairly.
So
that
is
my
thing,
so
I
really
want
the
city
attorney
to
look
in
and
follow
the
money
and
see
what's
really
going
on
in
example,
because
we
are
not
falling
back
best
practices.
B
It's
a
lot
of
backdoor
deals
going
on
and
I
again
with
celeste
roberts
and
michelle
manlong
being
in
a
meeting
last
year
with
hillsborough
county
government
about
a
project
that's
been
going
on
for
years
and
now
we
come
up
and
you
ask
it
for
100
million
thousand
dollars
a
half
a
a
half,
a
million
dollars
to
whatever
on
22nd
street.
That's
a
problem
for
me.
We
have
much
more
need
to
east
stamp
and
that's
not
one
of
them.
Thank
you
so
very
much
for
the
time
and
have
a
great.
H
All
right,
yes,
as
far
as
item
number
three
existing
programs
again
acts.
H
Let's
start
off
with
existing
programs.
In
the
last
few
sessions
we
have
approved,
which
we
approved
in
our
cac,
the
implementation
of
programs
like
the
fencing,
but
also
I
would
like
an
inventory
and
a
requested
update
of
all
of
the
programs
that
we
have
sent
to
staff
and
also
what
are
and
who
are,
the
staffs
that
are
working
on
again.
We
have
those
programs
in
existence,
but
can
we
have
a
tally
of
that
as
well
as
far
as
new
in
in
progress
programs
and
grants,
while
being
on
the
cac
board?
H
I
have
requested
that
we
vie
for
some
of
the
epa
programs
in
the
brownsville
to
follow
up
with
that,
I
was
advised
that
the
city
did
acquire
one
of
those,
but
I
am
requesting
that
for
east
tampa,
seeing
as
though
this
area
is
a
revitalization
area,
we
can
have
our
own
entities
to
look
into
that,
because
we
are
missing
out
on
thousands
of
dollars
that
we
could
reprogram
and
also
use
for
our
educational
and
job
force
programs.
As
far
as
proposed
programs
to
strengthening
east
tampa.
H
I
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
other
side
deals.
There
are
companies
getting
money
for
entrepreneurship.
East
tampa
needs
its
own
entity
to
help
grow
small
businesses.
We
have
a
large
amount
of
small
businesses
in
east
tampa
that
has
been
here
for
20
plus
years
and
the
margin
has
not
moved
in
those
areas.
So
I'm
requesting
not
someone
from
the
city
staff,
but
also
an
individual
or
individual
company
to
come
in
and
kind
of
assess
what
the
issue
is.
H
Speaking
back
to
what
was
said
by
the
west
tampa,
I
can't
remember
his
name
right
so
speak
to
what
he
was
saying.
We
are
at
a
disadvantage
because
we
don't
have
up-to-date
statistics
that
go
along
for
what
our
area
needs.
So
I
do
believe
we
need
viable
studies
that
can
submit
I'm
sorry,
bible
studies
that
show
what
programs
are
needed.
Yes,
we
can
say
what
we
need,
but
statistically
wise
in
this
area.
We
we
need
a
lot
of
things
going
from
technology
insight
to
small
businesses.
H
H
L
So,
as
you
heard,
what
what
dominique
went
over
were
the
programs
that
we
have,
but
for
years
we
had
no
programs
happening,
and
this
is
not
to
lay
blame,
because
I
know
some
of
you
weren't
there,
but
no
one
ever
said
anything
from
the
cra
board
of
how
there
are
absolutely
no
programs
happening
in
east
tampa.
L
When
I
became
chair,
we
started
to
work
to
create
programs
and
put
things
together,
but
for,
like
I
said
for
such
a
long
time,
we
had
nothing
now
I've
learned
how
development
happens
and
that's
not
happening,
because
when
you
want
to
build
a
big
park
in
on
the
river
or
anything
else,
you
acquire
land
you
package
it
up,
you
shop
it
to
big
developers.
You
tell
people
this
is
this
is
the
city's
vision,
and
this
is
what
we'd
like
to
see
happen
and
then
other
people
start
saying
developers
and
everyone
says
hey.
L
I
could
do
that.
I
could
do
this.
That's
not
happening
for
east
tampa
no
one's
putting
together
a
plan
saying
we
would
like
to
see
a
shopping
plaza
here,
and
this
is
the
land
that
we
have
and
who
would
like
to
come
in
and
do
it
that's
how
development
happens?
That's
not
what's
happening
in
east
tampa.
L
As
we
all
know,
we
are
in
a
food
desert.
Our
grocery
stores
are
only
on
the
outskirts
of
our
neighborhood.
We
don't
have
anything
within
our
community,
which
was
one
of
the
driving
forces.
For
me
when
becoming
chair
was
to
try
to
bring
a
grocery
store,
and
unfortunately
the
process
that
I
went
through
to
try
to
get
this
grocery
store
is
something
that
a
paid
person
working
for
the
city
should
have
been
doing.
I,
as
everyone
knows,
the
cac
is
a
volunteer
position,
but
I
got
with
a
developer:
did
a
ride
along
with
them?
L
L
L
L
We
wanted
to
actually
utilize
the
property,
probably
for
some
type
of
development,
even
possibly
for
a
grocery
store
and
the
only
reason
it
was
brought
up
as
a
grocery
store
is
because
when
I
did
the
ride
along
with
the
developer,
he
said
this
is
an
ideal
location,
maybe
not
for
publix,
but
this
would
be
an
ideal
location
for
a
grocery
store.
If
you
went
ahead
and
did
some
of
the
the
things
needed
for
the
environmental
pop
now
we
were
told:
oh,
we
can't
do.
L
After
removing
hundreds
of
tons
of
garbage,
now
there's
water
in
it.
So
what
does
that
tell
anyone
that
that
retention
pond
is
not
needed,
because
if
it
was
needed,
you
would
have
known
for
the
past
eight,
possibly
20
years,
that
it
wasn't
even
working
because
it
had
100
tons
of
garbage
in
it.
So
we
could
build
something
there
for
the
community
and
we
own
the
adjacent
property.
That's
on
22nd
street.
So
the
idea
is,
you
now
have
frontage
and
you
still
have
a
large
amount
of
property.
L
That's
the
largest
retention
pond
in
tampa,
and
it
has
the
largest
land
around
the
retention
pond
that
we
all
know
now
serves
no
purpose
because
it's
been
blocked
up
for
years.
So
these
are
just
some
of
the
programs.
We
need
you
all
to
say,
hey.
We
know
you
all
need
a
grocery
store.
Let's
help
package,
this
the
same
way
you
would
package
river,
the
julian
b
lane
park
was
packaged
the
same
way.
A
You
know
that
that
so-called
retention,
foreign
environmental
pond
is
11..
I
think
two.
A
Almost
14.,
I
remember
motioning
that
twice
on
that
issue.
You
know
again,
gentlemen.
Some
of
the
concerns
when
I
was
on
that
board
was
brought
up.
That's
why
when
I
got
on
council,
I
brought
some
of
them
up
and
you
see
the
frustration
community.
Some
of
these
ideas
are
there,
but
we
just
haven't
just
taken
the
extra
steps
to
try
to
get
them
done
or
really
work
on
them,
so
miss
billy
yourself,
miss
burton
mr
tate.
You
guys
been
putting
the
ideas
out
there.
A
L
No
usf,
they
were
just
volunteering.
It
was
a
community
task
force
of
the
neighborhood
associations.
That's
that
was
surrounded
the
area
with
some
of
the
churches
in
the
area
and
community
people
to
discuss
how
what
we
wanted,
how
we
could
do
it
and
then
we
just
covet
came
we
stopped
meeting
and
then
once
we
started
having
meetings
again,
the
task
force
was
never
brought
back
up
right.
P
P
You
know
this
thursday
at
city
council,
wearing
our
city
council,
hats
we'll
be
talking
about
returning
citizens,
and
you
know
one
of
the
things
I'm
trying
to
get
the
city
of
tampa
to
do
is
to
partner
up
with
hillsborough
county
working
with
county
commissioner
gwen
myers
on
this
for
a
test
pilot
program
for
apprenticeships,
for
returning
citizens,
people
who
are
leaving
incarceration
in
prison
and
want
to
work
hard
for
their
families
and
acquire
the
skills
that
they
need
to
be
independent
and
successful.
P
I'd
love
to
see
the
cras
be
able
to
invest,
potentially,
obviously
in
talking
with
the
community
etc.
Money
on
that
you
talk
about
something
that
goes
to
blighted
communities
and
the
to
me
the
purpose
of
cras.
That
could
be
a
good
grant
potential.
We
have
some
great
organizations
here
in
the
city
of
tampa
that
really
do
god's
work.
In
my
opinion,
on
that
issue
of
miss
travis
I'll
talk
to
you
about
that,
if
I
may,
I
just
thought:
hey,
let's,
let's
get
cra
involved
too.
P
So
you
know,
and
with
regards
to
a
grocery
for
something
that
miss
goodly
was
talking
about
in
east
tampa.
I
think
we
we'd
all
love
to
see
that
and
I'd.
You
know,
love
to
see
some
sort
of
a
goal.
Maybe
we
can
say
within.
P
I
don't
want
to
give
a
time
frame,
but
something
in
other
words
if
we
can
put
a
man
on
the
moon
and
we
can
certainly
have
a
grocery
store
in
east
tampa
that
is
going
to
be
viable
and
survive,
and
I'd
love
to
see
that
as
a
goal
that
we
can
all
work
towards
a
real,
viable
goal.
So
just
some
thoughts
in
that
regard.
Thank
you.
O
These
conversations
are
very
frustrating
because
we
have
the
the
responsibility
for
this
organization
and
to
my
colleagues
whether
you
think
the
mayor
should
make
all
the
decisions
and
we
should
rubber
stamp
for
20
minutes
once
a
month
or
whether
we,
you
think
we
should
have
eight
hours
of
meetings
to
deeply
get
into
this
from
a
legal
point
of
view,
we're
completely
responsible
and
if,
if
the
city
staff
is
holding
this
up
or
if
we
have
the
wrong
staff
that
this
that
the
city
is
giving
us,
we've
got
to
fix
these
problems.
O
The
reason
why
the
the
tree
program
worked
is
because
one
of
the
board
members
personally,
let
it
through
and
pushed
it,
and
if,
if
all
of
us
take
on
these
projects
or
if
we
work
on
it
together,
we
can
move
it
forward.
I
sit
on
non-profit
boards,
where
I
get
more
of
a
briefing
from
staff
than
I
do
on
the
cra
board,
even
as
vice
chair
and
we
need
to.
O
We
need
to
not
only
listen
all
this,
but
we
need
to
actively
manage
it
and,
if
staff,
if,
if
the
staff
assigned
to
us
by
the
city,
is
not
doing
the
work,
we
need
to
get
different
staff.
O
If,
if
the
city
staff
is
not
partnering
with
our
people,
then
we
need
to
ask
for
that
to
change
and
if
they're
not
working,
then
we
need
to
outsource
it
somewhere
else,
but
we
can't
we
ultimately
we're
responsible,
for
we
can't
blame
the
administration
if
this
doesn't
work,
even
if,
even
if
the
staff
and
the
city
is
causing
the
problems
because,
ultimately
we're
responsible,
we
have
to
come
up
with
a
way
to
fix
this.
Thank
you.
K
I
my
comments
will
really
piggyback
off
of
mr
carson.
I
think
that
there
has
been
a
lack
of
programming
in
east
tampa
because
there
hasn't
been
enough
administrative
support.
K
What
I
mean
by
that
is
all
of
the
programming
that
should
take
place
is
wrapped
around
having
an
rfp,
and
then
we
will
hear
someone
say
well
who's
going
to
write
the
rfp.
If
we're
waiting
on
city
staff,
that
does
not
happen.
I
keep
hearing
miss
travis,
name,
she's
only
one
person.
It
would
be
great
to
hear
about
the
level
of
support
that
she
will
receive
to
make
sure
that
the
action
items
that
we're
putting
forth
they
actually
have
legs
to
them.
K
So
I
think
we
will
have
more
programming
in
east
tampa
if
we
had
administrative
support
to
write
up
those
those
programs
for
an
example,
I
brought
to
our
board
the
beginning
of
last
year
about
our
east
tampa
youth
leadership
academy.
That
was
only
successful
because
I
learned
and
researched
how
to
write
an
rfp.
K
K
Why
is
that?
So?
Not
only
are
we
saying
for
us,
there
should
be
something
put
in
place
that
has,
there
is
a
transition
to
a
board
that
there
are
metrics
and
they
are
didn't
different
action,
steps
that
are
there.
So
the
board
can
be
versed
in
what
has
happened.
It
should
be
the
same
thing
from
the
administration.
These
are
the
things
that
are
working
that
are
being
worked
on.
K
A
Councilman
we've
already,
we
vamp
the
protocol
for
this
evening
and
I
keep
hearing
the
skills
center
and
I
see
miss
celeste
roberts
in
the
office.
A
So
if,
if
I
get
president
opposite
and
maybe
let
her
explain
about
the
skills
center
to
those
who
have
haven't
been
there,
because
we
we
from
what
I
understand
about
the
skills,
there's
something
different,
what
I've
kind
of
heard,
I
don't
think
there's
an
apprenticeship
program
in
the
skills
center,
but
I
like
to
find
out
so
this
board
can
know
the
community
at
large
can
know
they
can
see
it
on
tv
tonight.
A
J
I
just
want
to
say
it
is
programs
grants
we
have
really
very
little
information
as
to
the
amount
of
monies
that
comes
into
each
stamp
programs
grants
your
capable
city
staff
of
doing
all
of
that
we
saw
it
with
domain
homes
right.
The
hannah
street
project
is
not
an
east
tampa
project.
Although
it's
always
talked
about
wonderful
things
coming
to
east
tampa,
it's
a
district
5
project.
J
It
is
it's
not
even
in
stanford,
so
this
shell
game
of,
like
natasha,
just
laid
out
of
the
way
things
can
be
packaged
and
developed
for
our
community,
is
real
because
we
have
the
capacity
of
doing
it.
I
just
saw
where
a
technology
company
came
here.
I
think
it
and
probably
packed
up
and
then
gone
the
fast
team
or
whoever
they
was.
J
They
went
through
almost
10
million
dollars
a
month
gone,
but
those
type
of
things
when
we're
talking
about
entrepreneurship
in
our
community.
If
the
vision
is
there,
the
one
is
there,
it
is
showing
there's
a
need
there.
We
don't
want
just
socialized
programs
that
jump
past
fourth
generation
and
then
go
and
capture
the
babies.
We
got
men's
that
need
meaningful
employment.
We
have
young
people
in
our
community
that
can
push
a
lawnmower.
They
can
know,
learn
how
to
put
together
a
small
grant,
so
they
can
be
the
receivership
of
entrepreneurship,
you're
capable
of
doing
it.
J
So
the
grants
has
to
be
written,
so
it
can
lift
the
people
the
population
of
that
community.
Since
you
know,
I
don't
have
no
problem
with
social
service,
but
I
think
we're
beyond
that
now
we're
beyond
pablo
we're
ready
for
solid
food,
we're
looking
for
productivity
and
ways
in
which
we
can
build
generational
wealth.
Thank
you.
Thank.
S
So,
thank
you
so
much.
My
name
is
celeste
roberts
and
it
really
is
not
for
me
to
take
the
time.
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
the
two
groups
to
get
together
and
really
figure
out
what
the
solution
is.
I'm
the
ceo
of
the
skills
center
we're
bringing
a
state
of
the
arts,
23
million
dollar
23
million
dollar
development
project
into
east
tampa.
S
It
really
is
about
what
ms
burton
said.
Our
project
is
really
focused
on
creating
equity
in
education,
health
and
workforce
training.
It
really
is
a
collaborative
model.
It's
not
that
we
do
all
things.
It's
that
we
look
at
this
resources.
That's
in
our
community.
We
bring
them
the
beer
on
on
a
common
goal
and
that
common
goal
is
our
young
people,
middle
middle
school,
high,
school
and
young
adults.
How
do
we
help
people
have
upward
economic
mobility?
How
do
we
have
them
help
them
to
have
the
skills
they
need
to
make
above
a
livable
weight?
S
That's
the
whole
point
of
the
skill
center.
I
will
say
that
I
did
go
through
this
process,
and
so
I
have
a
very
unique
experience
myself
and
I
will
just
simply
say
this:
there
was
not
a
process
for
me
to
go
through
right,
so
I
had
to
go
through
the
way
that
I
was
told
to
go
through
right
recommended
to
go
through
and
then
what
I
found
on
the
website.
I
think
it
should
be
a
process
for
individuals
who
come
to
ask
for
money.
S
I
think
every
document
or
application
that
my
organization
can
fill
it
out
and
we
would
already
have
that
information
because
we
already
raised
majority
of
our
money
right.
So
I
think
there
should
be
a
process
that
holds
people
accountable.
I
was
a
little
shocked
that
there
was
it.
I
asked
several
people
what
you
know
for
the
process,
but
again
I'm
outside
looking
in
my
goal
is
to
go
through
and
to
ask
for
what
I
need
for
this
project
and
bring
this
project
to
bear.
S
But
I
thank
you
all
for
the
opportunity
just
to
share
what
the
skill
center
is.
I
look
forward
to
working
with
east
tampa
east
tampa
cra
and
the
cra
board.
Again,
I
think
this
was
a
great
opportunity
and
I
hope
that
what
the
residents
have
shared
that
you
all
really
do
take
it
into
consideration,
because
I
think
it
can
be
done.
East
tampa
is
a
very
special
place
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
showcase
the
advantages
or
what's
good,
about
east
tampa.
S
B
And
I
want
to
say
from
my
experience
with
the
skills
center
with
my
grandchildren.
Having
been
you
know:
I've
supported
them
financially
engaging
my
grandchildren
in
that
process.
That's
fine!
My
thing
is:
we
never
received
the
application
from
the
sales
center
for
half
a
million
dollars
and,
as
I
and
she
put
in
the
presentation
was
like
she
was
directed
or
they
were
directed
from
gilbert
county
government
coming
at
the
park
east
town
for
cra
for
a
half
a
million
dollars-
and
I
just
spoke
with
my
accounting
commissioner-
and
that
was
never
the
case.
B
I
have
no
problem
with
supporting
the
skill
center,
but
I
just
think
that
a
half
million
dollars
is
is
unreasonable.
I
think
that
that
is
not
one
of
the
great
needs
in
each
tamper.
We
have
a
lot
of
youth
programs
going
on
ongoing
programs
that
are
free
and
they
parade
as
a
non-profit
organization.
If
you
go
on
their
website
and
google
or
look
at
the
skills
center,
you
will
see
that
there's
fees
for
youth
to
participate-
it's
not
free
as
they
portray.
B
B
B
My
dollars
are
there,
but
I
still
can't
get
a
sidewalk
in
front
of
my
home
and
I
watch
the
people
from
the
nursing
home
riding
in
the
streets
on
scooters,
pushing
our
wheelchairs
down
the
street,
but
then
we're
going
to
give
on
as
they
portray
themselves
to
be
a
non-profit
organization,
a
half
a
million
dollars.
B
We
have
on
lake
in
27th,
as
you
all
call
it,
the
gator
building,
the
blue
and
orange
and
whatever
that
we
purchased
and
when
that
was
projected
out
a
plan
for
how
to
make
that
work
for
the
community
as
a
incubator
for
small
businesses
that
wasn't
received
well.
But
for
some
reason
we
are
open
to
giving
the
skill
center
a
half
a
million
dollars
without
an
application.
B
I
have
a
problem
with
that.
I
will
ask
the
city
attorney
to
look
into
that
process.
Follow
the
dollars
and
see
what's
really
going
on
in
east
town.
I
don't
want
to
think
that
we
are
out
on
the
front
or
on
the
fore
front,
and
you
can
call
me
an
angry
back
woman.
If
you
want
to
you,
can
call
me
whatever,
but
as
a
professional
person.
B
That
will
move
on
because
right
now
I
have
no
trust
in
our
cra
process,
because
people
just
show
up
and
ask
for
dollars
and
get
them
without
an
application.
What's
going
on
in
each
town,
what
is
going
on?
How
do
you
give
out
thousands
of
dollars
and
there's
no
paper
trail?
I've
worked
for
the
government
for
over
40
years
and
my
training
was
if
it's
not
documented,
it
didn't
happen.
B
These
things
are
happening
in
east
town
and
it's
not
documented,
and
I
don't
mind
standing
alone
for
what's
right,
because
that's
who
I
am
because
when
I've
worked
all
of
my
life,
two
and
three
jobs
to
be
a
a
mother,
a
wife
and
a
grandmother
to
make
sure
that
we
are
treated
fairly
and
he's
terrible.
That's
not
happening
right
now
and
I
have
a
problem
with
that.
So
I
do
ask
that
you
all
please
consider
what's
going
on
in
east
town
and
follow
the
trail
and
make
sure
that
we
have
a
process
in
place.
B
That
is
accountable
and
we
talk
about
transparency.
We
talk
about
accountability,
let's
be
real
about
it
and
not
just
talk
about
it
and
that's
not
happening
in
this
town,
we're
treated
so
differently.
I
grew
up
in
in
south
carolina
between
de
leon
and
agile.
I
went
to
dollarsville
elementary.
I
walked
down
those
streets
every
day,
but
you
I
can
tell
you
one
thing
about
wayne
and
martin.
B
When
we
went
in
there
as
black
people,
I
lived
there
and
when
I
went
into
the
beach
as
a
black
woman,
we
couldn't
go
to
bnt
david
city,
but
now
I'm
looking
at
each
town,
we
can't
even
go
in
each
sample
and
get
what's
fair,
what
we're
paying
for
and
working
for
so
yeah.
You
can
call
me
whatever
you
want.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
following
the
process
and
treating
us
with
dignity
and
respect
and
know
that
we
are
human
too.
D
B
I
I
I
I
think
miss
van
loan
came
forward
with
a
proposal
of
a
grant
policy
for
adoption
by
the
cra
board,
because
we're
coming
up
with
so
many
grant
programs
and-
and
we
need
to
come
up
with-
and
I
agree
we
need
to
have
a
uniform
policy
and
procedure
in
a
place
for
it
in
place
for
everyone
who
applies
for
tif
dollars
from
any
from
the
cras
and
so
and
it
has
been
uneven
and
that
that
this
is
frankly
the
case.
I
We've
had
facade
brands
for
years
we
have
the
tree
trimming
grant,
but
we
a
lot
of
these
new
grant.
Programs
are
coming
into
play,
especially
in
west
ham
and
east
tampa,
they're
new
and
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out.
You
know
what's
the
application
process,
when
do
they
need
to
come
before
you
all
for
approval?
What
can
be
approved
by
an
administrative
level
depending
on
the
dollar
amount?
Those
are
some
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
kind
of
build
right
now,
trying
to
get
money
out
the
door
as
well.
I
There
does
need
to
be
some
minimum
application
process
in
place
and
what
we
have
done
in
those
instances
where
there
are
special
special
projects
that
don't
fit
neatly
within
one
of
the
existing
grant
programs
is
that
we
have
required
and
negotiated
an
agreement
with
the
entity,
that's
receiving
the
money
to
make
sure
that
the
money
is
used
for
a
purpose
that
is
consistent
with
163
and
is
consistent
with
the
adopted
community
redevelopment
plan.
So
that
has
been
the
process
that
we
have
used.
I
So
the
fact
that
the
skill
center
came
in
and
asked
for
a
half
million
dollars
it,
they
don't
get
the
half
million
dollars
out
the
door.
That
would
require
the
negotiation
of
a
funding
agreement
with
the
skills
center
to
make
sure
that
we
that
money
was
applied
for
a
purpose
again
consistent
with
chapter
163
and
for
the
adopted
community
redevelopment
plan
for
east
tampa.
That
would
be
the
only
way
that
we
would.
B
I
That
agreement
would
then
come.
It
would
be
reviewed
by
the
cac,
come
to
you
all
as
a
cra
for
approval,
and
once
they
got
approved,
that's
when
the
money
would
go
out
the
door.
That's
the
process,
the
fact
that
that
that
this
concept
was
approved
at
the
cac
level
and
came
you
all
came
to
you
all
for
support.
I
In
my
opinion,
it's
almost
the
start
of
the
process.
Frankly
for
these
special
projects,
because
these
special
projects
require
a
negotiated
agreement
again
that
that
sits
outside
of
our
grant
programs
as
they
exist
right
now.
But
the
idea
that
we
have
some
basic
application
in
place
where
they
have
to
just
state
what
the
purpose
that
they're
applying
for
and
perhaps
explain
how
they
think
it
complies
with
163
and
the
adopted
community
redevelopment
plan
actually
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I
N
Sure
so,
when
you
have
cras,
that's
been
in
existence
for
a
long
time.
The
earlier
years
of
the
cra
is
usually
done.
In
laying
the
foundation,
you
do
the
infrastructure
works,
and
this
is
investment
that
private
sector,
private
developers,
don't
really
spend
the
money
on
so
you've
laid
the
foundation
east
tampa
has
done
that
for
years
we
have
done
all
of
the
infrastructure
work
and
really
priming
the
real
estate
and
priming.
N
The
pump
for
investment
to
come
into
the
community
now
shifting
to
a
grant-oriented
program
is,
is
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
community
for
the
people
that
are
there,
and
so
you
have
programs
that
are
in
place
that
have
been
adopted
and
approved.
It
is
my
recommendation
that
that
should
be
done
at
an
administrative
level.
You
already
approved
the
program,
there's
no
reason
why
staff
should
be
reporting
on
that
in
the
cac
meeting.
N
If
you
have
a
budgeted
amount,
it's
a
program,
that's
approved
unless
it
stays
without
outs
inside
those
parameters,
we
can
just
keep
moving
and
focus
on
the
next
program.
The
development
agreement
or
the
funding
funding
agreement
that
attorney
morris
was
talking
about.
I
almost
messed
up
your
last.
H
N
But
what
he
is
talking
about
is
pretty
is
my
philosophy
pay
for
performance
right,
so
you
have
the
needs
of
the
cra
that
needs
to
be
met
to
codify
it
into
an
agreement
then
make
sure
that
the
entity
that's
receiving
the
money
has
performed
and
met
the
metrics
or
met
the
requirements
of
that
money,
and
then
that's
how
the
money
is
expended.
So,
as
you
do
redevelopment
and
these
larger
projects,
you
will
not
have
a
cut
and
dry
application
to
meet
that
need.
N
However,
mr
mccree-
and
I
were
talking
off
the
side
to
have
a
cover
sheet
application.
To
just
say
you
know
here,
check
boxes
are
the
things
that
are
high
level.
What's
the
requirements
in
the
community
redevelopment
plan
have
it
met
which
boxes
they
check?
What
are
they
asking
for
funding
for?
What
are
they
hoping
to
do
with
that?
It's
a
cover
page
that
the
community
can
understand
at
a
one
shot
glance,
but
it
doesn't
it's
not
going
to
have
all
the
backup
documentation
that
you
need
that's
up
to
staff.
N
That's
our
requirement
to
get
that
information
out
of
the
requesting
entity
to
be
able
to
present
that
to
you.
So
I
think
we
can
achieve
that
in
putting
that
cover
page
so
that
everyone
understands
how
it
meets
the
needs
of
the
community.
What
exactly
they're
asking
for
funding
for-
and
you
know
what's
the
timeline
on
that,
so
we
know
which
fiscal
year
to
budget
for
so.
O
Tell
us
for
calls
yeah,
I
think
number
one
on
that
sheet
should
be.
Where
does
the
idea
come
from
in
the
case
of
the
skill
center?
I
don't.
I
don't
know
where
the
idea
came
from,
but
across
the
these
districts,
what
I've
observed
is
that
the
biggest
complaints
we
get
are
when
the
city
puts
cost
onto
the
the
cac
that
we
hear
back
from
the
cac.
Why
did
the
city
hand
us
this
cost?
We
didn't
agree
to
this.
We
didn't
want
this.
O
O
We
allocated
the
million
dollars.
I
think
then,
but
in
that
case
nothing's
happening,
and
so
the
next
thing
I
would
recommend
is,
is
we
have
to
hold
the
city
accountable?
Also,
we've
allocated
money
through
one
of
the
districts
to
tampa
union
station,
but
because
the
building
is
owned
by
the
city,
the
city
told
us
the
other
day
we're
going
to
wait
until
2024,
which
just
happens
to
be
after
the
election.
O
You
know
so
they
everything
now
watch
guys
in
the
next
few
months.
Everything
is
going
to
be
pushed
to
after
2024.
and
and
we
have
the
staff,
if
the.
If
this,
if
the
city,
if
the
city
won't
allow
us
to
to
to
change
their
building,
then
maybe
we
should
just
take
the
money
back
and
say:
okay,
you
guys
fix
your
own
building.
We
sit
at
city
council,
but
we
always
said
also
said
a
cra
we're
offering
to
do
that.
N
O
O
The
other,
the
other
example
is
he
he
mentioned
the
strat
center.
You
know
we
we
put
in,
we
see
alright
put
in
25
and
the
public
is
the
the
private
sector
is
matching
it
with
the
four
times
three
four
times
our
money
putting
in
for
a
city-owned
facility,
so
it
was
investment
money.
The
city
then
came
in
and
said
after
a
year
of
it
coming
before
us
almost
every
month,
the
city
came
to
us
and
said
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
delay
this
for
another
month
which
embarrassed
the
stras
center
stress.
O
Centers
is
a
facility
that
has
programs
for
everybody
throughout
the
city
and
they
have
training
programs
for
kids,
all
kinds
of
great
programs,
free
programs,
and
they
want
to
add
more
free
programs
and
open
up
the
riverfront,
but
instead
they
got
bad
press.
We
were
trying
to
out
of
covet,
save
their
redevelopment,
which
was
going
to
not
move
forward.
Unless
we
did
something
and
we
did
save
it-
the
cra
saved
it
and-
and
we
had
to
put
a
stop
on
it.
Why?
O
Because
the
city,
the
city,
said
we
want
to
go
back
and
do
an
evaluation
of
it,
and
you
know
what
happened
in
the
next
30
days.
The
city
made
the
strata
center
changed
their
powerpoint
presentation
to
add
the
elements
of
t3
in
it
so
that
they
could
present
to
us
that
it
was
t3.
So
it
looked
like
it
was
the
mayor's
idea.
That's
crazy!
So
we
hurt
the
reputation
of
the
strata
center
for
more
than
a
month.
That's
a
beloved
public
facility
so
that
we
could
add
t3
in
it.
O
I
mean
if
the
thing
is
to
get
any
of
this
passive,
we
need
to
add
the
t
throat
three
logo
on
it
to
get
it
passed.
If
we
need
to
put
a
big
t3
logo
sign
in
front
of
the
jackson
house,
to
save
it
I'll.
Do
that
I'll
pay
for
a
press
conference.
The
mayor
can
have
press
conference
there
and
we
can
use
cre
money
to
get
it
done.
If
that
will
save
the
jackson
house.
But
what
do
we
have
to
do?
We
can't
save.
We
can't
save
tampa
union
station.
O
We
can't
save
the
jackson
house,
we
can't
put
a
world
war
ii
monument
in
front
of
in
inside
the
tampa
union
station
until
2024.
We
can't
even
talk
about
it
until
2024.
That's
what
we're
going
to
hear
in
a
couple
days,
and
then
we
can't
put
sidewalks
in
east
tampa.
We
can't
we.
We
can't
do
anything
because
the
city
is
holding
us
up,
so
we've
got
to
hold
the
city
accountable,
and
if
the
city
isn't
going
to
do
something,
we
either
have
to
shift
our
funds
and
let
the
city
pay
for
it.
O
If
the
city
wants
tampa
union
station
to
fall
apart
and
let
it
let
the
windows
work
go
ahead,
but
if
we're
putting
if
cra
is
putting
the
money-
and
this
is
money-
that's
being
subsidized
by
the
rest
of
the
city,
if
we're
if
the
rest
of
the
city
wants
to
subsidize
these
things,
the
city
needs
to
move
out
of
the
way.
And
let
us
do
it
just
because
we're
faster
and
more
nimble
doesn't
mean
that
the
city
should
wait
and
and
make
us
not
be
able
to
do
these
important
things.
East
tampa.
O
D
N
I've
heard
of
the
tampa
union
station
and
the
and
I've
seen
the
work
that
has
gone
in
behind
the
scenes
to
do
the
proper
assessment,
to
figure
out
what
it
takes
to
properly
assess
and
fix
the
building.
The
2024
plan
is
when
we
would
have
the
the
building
brought
up
to
code
will
window
seats.
I
haven't
been
involved
in
in
details,
but
it's
not
that
we
can't
talk
about
it
and
not
that
we
can't
figure
out
a
use
for
it
before
2024..
N
So
there
are
plans
in
place
and
things
are
moving
forward
with
that
with
the
jackson
house.
I
recently
met
with
the
foundation
there
that
is
not
being
held
up
on
the
city
side.
We
have
been
at
the
table
asking
questions
and
helping
to
get
through
for
them
to
get
through
the
permit
florida
building
code
requirements.
N
Those
are
things
that
is
on
on
the
foundation
to
do
with
their
architects
and
we
have
been
working
alongside
them
to
find
solutions
and
come
up
with
what
they
call
am
ammrs,
which
are
adaptive
plans
on
how
you
can
meet
the
the
florida
building
code.
So
that's
not
stopped
from
the
administration
side
or
from
the
city
side,
we're
working
hand
in
hand
with
the
developer
and
there's
a
lot
of
wear
the
ideas
and
come
through.
I
am
not
a
political
person.
I
am
here
to
do
the
work.
I
am
here
to
move
things
forward.
N
N
O
I
would
just
add
the
the
you
know:
the
community
said
if
it's
a
priority,
if
it's
a
t3
priority
or
a
priority
of
the
administration,
it
moves
fast
suddenly,
if
we
want
to
do
something
in
downtown
or
wherever
it
moves
really
fast,
all
every
we
clear
everything
the
tampa
union
station
what's
holding
up.
Is
they
the
staff
said?
Oh,
you
need
to
raise
a
million
and
a
half
in
with
the
increased
budget.
You
need
to
raise
a
million
half
for
with
grants
so
because
of
that,
we're
gonna
wait.
Well.
O
O
What
we're
here
tonight
to
talk
about
is
the
east
campus,
I'm
using
these
as
an
example
of
of
if
it's,
if
it's
not
a
priority
of
the
administration,
it
doesn't
get
done
in
the
cras,
and
this
the
administration
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
cras.
I
would
respectfully.
N
Disagree-
I
am
here,
I
was
hired
because
of
my
experience
in
development
and
my
redevelopment
experience.
One
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
in
my
interview
was
extensively.
My
work
in
the
cras,
and
so
I
would
like
to
think
that
I
was
recruited
here
to
bring
that
experience
and
to
work
with
the
cra.
I.
O
I
appreciate
that
I
respect
your
your
your
background
and
my
my
criticism
is
nothing
about
you,
because
I
think
you
you
will
not
changing.
The
only
thing
that
I
would
say
to
my
colleagues
is
that
in
our
agreement
outsourcing
agreement
with
the
city
we
pay
for
a
full-time
executive
director
and
in
the
next
six
months
it
sounds
like
we're
going
to
have.
I
don't
know
20
of
your
time,
and
so
I
recommend
that
you
could
provide
input
and
oversight,
but
we
need
a
full-time
executive
director.
We
have
too
many
things
getting
done.
O
N
Let
me
just
provide
some
feedback
on
that.
If
you
think
that
it
is
beneficial,
I
was
offering
my
experience
and
my
expertise
to
come
and
provide
in
that
gap.
If
you
think
it's
beneficial
for
the
cra
board
to
go
through
a
recruitment
process
to
find
a
director
right
now,
you're
talking
about
the
turnover.
So
I'm
going
to
just
talk
to
you
plainly
and
candidly
right
now,
you're
talking
about
the
turnover
on
the
board
members
and
the
volunteers,
you
have
a
transition
in
staff,
I'm
willing
to
step
in
it's
going
to
take
more
than
20
percent.
N
N
O
Decision
that
she's
going
to
be
this
forever,
are
we
no?
This
was
intro.
I
understand
that,
but
it's
a
six-month
interim.
So
why
are
we
going
to
do
that?
That's
not
forever
yeah,
but
why?
What
organization
you've
ever
been?
It
has
a
six-month
interim.
I
don't
understand
this
until
the
contracts
come
comes
back
up,
so
are
we
not
going
to
renew
the
contract?
Because
if
we're
going
to
renew
the
contract,
then
we
need
a
full-time
person
so
that
we
can
lead
into
the
contract.
Otherwise
what
are
we
renewing
for.
I
The
only
thing
I
would
say
is
there's
been
a
vote
already
to
appoint
her
for
that
for
six
months
now
I
mean
the
point
that
that
councilman
carlson
raised
is
about
the
money
that
is
allocated
in
the
services
agreement.
I
don't
know
whether
that
amount
that's
allocated
for
miss
vandal
and
salary
is
necessary.
I
don't
know
whether
that's
going
to
be
allocated
somewhere
else.
That
may
be
a
basis
for
adjusting
the
agreement.
We
can
look
at
that,
but
but
but.
N
Would
have
done
why
don't
we
just?
I
am
not
hiring
your
executive
director.
I
am
not
hiring
a
staff.
What
I'm
telling
you
is
that
the
administration
has
committed
to
doing
the
work
and
providing
me
the
resources
that
I
need
to
come
in
and
do
the
work
you're
not
paying
for
that
from
the
cra.
If
this
board
and
this
body
wants
to
prorate
the
executive
director's
pay
from
the
two
weeks
that
it's
effective,
that's
the
prerogative
of
the
board-
I
am
not
I'm
not
advocating
to
be
your
cra
director.
N
I'm
simply
asking
I'm
recommending
that
I
step
in
in
that
interim
process
in
this
six
month
process.
If
you
want
to
start
a
recruitment
for
an
executive
director,
you
absolutely
can
do
that,
but
you're
talking
about
the
transition
on
the
board
here,
you're
talking
about
listening
to
the
community
and
get
things
done,
those
things
don't
happen
in
a
vacuum.
N
Those
things
happen
by
somebody
leading
from
the
top
and
setting
direction
to
the
staff,
and
so
while
mr
mcrae
is
here
and
there's
administrative
staff
in
the
east
tampa
office
to
do
it
their
direction,
they
still
need
leadership
and
direction.
They
still
need
somebody
to
come
in
and
provide
oversight
and
guidance.
I
have
worked
with
them.
I
have
spoken
to
mr
mccray.
On
numerous
times
I
can
went
to
the
east
tampa
crm
meeting
if
it's
the
board's
prerogative
to
hire
an
executive
director
and
take
the
time
to
do
that
in
in
the
interim.
N
O
You're
already
working
economically
you're,
the
head
of
economic
development
and
planning,
so
you
have
all
that
under
your
portfolio,
you're
already
working
with
east
tampa
and
I
respect
your
ability
and
I'm
sure
you
can
give
lots
of
advice
to
the
cra.
But
if
we
have
an
executive
director,
especially
during
this
ramp
up
period,
we
have
an
executive
director
who
will
full-time,
be
looking
at
these
issues
and
trying
to
resolve
them
and
that
person
can
partner
with
you.
So
I
don't
understand
it,
however
long
it
takes.
O
N
You're
you're
you're
the
board
and
you
can
make
the
you
can
make
the
decision
to
do
that.
At
this
point,
I
believe
that
we're
splitting
years
just
on
process
and
technicality,
it's
the
board's
prerogative.
You
have
an
executive
director,
the
administration
has
you
asked
for
that?
The
administration
has
provided
that
for
two
years,
you've
had
an
executive
director
and
a
crm
in
place,
providing
you
reports
for
the
last
two
years.
If
you
want
to
go
and
go
recruit
for
an
executive
director,
I
will
help
you
do
that.
N
D
S
It's
almost
nine
o'clock
and
we
still
have
more
things
to
discuss.
Can
you.
D
G
Jessica
briefly,
again,
clint
paris,
cac
board
member.
On
the
issue
of
staffing.
First,
we
need
to
appreciate
the
dynamics
of
where
this
cr
the
cac
was
for
pretty
much
the
last
year
or
so
I
think
cedric
may
be
the
longest
tenured
person
we
have
on
our
staff.
That's
well,
eva,
no
eva
predates
him
and
the
staff
it's
finally
gotten
filled
out
of
almost
every
meeting.
A
new
person
has
come
on
that
can
take
on
some
of
the
responsibilities.
G
So
we
think
that
we're
getting
closer
to
the
staffing
level
that
can
address
the
needs
of
the
community.
It
didn't
appear
that
when
I
came
on,
though
it
had
the
same
level
of
staffing,
I
think
we
had
eva
ed
johnson
and
there
was
a
young
man
that
came
and
went
pretty
quickly,
but
it
doesn't
seem
like
the
staffing
has
been
at
the
level
it
has
been
or
needed
to
be
for
a
community
of
that
size
and
a
crac
cra
of
that
side.
G
G
It's
a
proud
community,
it's
a
community,
that's
demanding
results,
and
so
I
think
it's
incumbent
upon
the
cre
board
to
be
very
diligent
and
overseeing
that
staff
and
making
sure
they're
taking
care
of
the
things
that
we
need
now
we're
trying
at
our
level
by
asking
for
reports
and
things
of
that
nature,
but
I
think
there's
an
additional
burden
on
this
board
to
be
very
critical
of
the
reports
you
receive,
of
the
information
that's
being
provided
to
you
and
the
information,
that's
not
being
provided
to
you
to
pick
up
on
those
things
and
ask
the
right
questions.
G
A
couple
of
things
that
we
have
on
the
table
that
we've
asked
for
that,
we
think
will
embellish
or
help
us
to
serve
the
community
better
one
is
we
ask
for
a
housing
consultant
somebody
to
come
into
east
tampa
to
help
us
with
figuring
out
what
is
the
best
way
that
we
can
assist
in
supporting
the
housing
needs
in
that
community?
A
professional,
an
expert
in
that
field.
G
So
we've
asked
for
an
sap
consultant
to
be
also
once
it's
the
influence
it's
adopted
to
be
provided,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
we
are
now
moving
it
moving
the
community
along
in
the
way
that
we've
planned
and
strategically
put
in
place
and
paid
for
this
report
to
be
provided
to
us.
One
of
the
other
things
that
we
need
is
is
information
is
key
and
we've
asked
for
a
communications
director
can
assist
us
with
how
communications
are
distributed.
G
You
talked
earlier
about
an
advertising
person,
that's
sales,
I'm
talking
about
information
communications,
how
we
utilize
some
of
the
new
technologies.
How
do
we
provide
information
to
and
from
the
community
how
that's
disseminated
back
into
our
board
and
how
we
connect
all
of
those
components
even
up
to
this,
this
board's
level.
So
those
are
three
things
on
the
staffing
level
that
we
we've
tried
to
to
bring
in
to
build
out.
G
So
those
are
some
of
the
things
on
the
staffing
level
that
I'd
like
just
to
point
out,
and
I
and
I
just
want
to
say
this-
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
passion
for
each
tamper
and
sometimes,
let's
not
confuse
disagreement
with
the
lack
of
passion
we
all,
I
think,
want
the
same
thing.
Sometimes
we
may
disagree
how
we
get
there
all
right.
Thank
you.
K
To
be
clear,
those
three
things
that
he
just
referenced:
we
voted
on
as
a
board,
and
that
was
approved.
That
goes
back
to
the
administrative
processes
to
where
we
need
city
staff
to
help
us
seek
out
the
consultants
that
we've
already
approved.
For
so
those
three
items
have
already
been
approved
in
our
budget.
We
just
need
to
know
how
do
we
hire
them
and
what
process
we
need
to
take
in
order
to
get
them.
L
Okay,
I
hope
none
of
you
take
this
the
wrong
way,
but
I
have
been
coming
up
here
since
2018
and
everything
I
know
that
I've
said
tonight.
I've
said
before
now:
everyone,
except
for
council
member
hertac,
has
as
new
but
for
everyone
else,
you've
heard
me
speak
on
how
we
were
trying
to
do
land
acquisition,
so
we
could
have
a
grocery
store.
I
even
brought
a
potential
grocery
store
that
I
located
who
was
interested
in
coming
to
florida
because
they
haven't
been
here
before
I
even
brought
that
store
to
you
brought
the
whole
ad
address.
L
Everything
never
heard
anything
else
about
it.
We
acquired
the
store
on
laken
22nd
because
we
were
trying
to
build
a
grocery
store
because
we
already
owned
two
lots
there.
So
the
idea
was
to
get
that
and
the
rest
of
the
properties
on
the
street
so
that
we'd
have
a
location
for
the
grocery
store,
because
our
initial
location,
that
land
was
given
in
the
pack
of
the
the
package
of
land
to
domain
homes,
and
so
now
that
me
we
had
to
find
more
land.
In
order
to
make
that
happen.
I
came
before
you
with
that.
L
I
came
before
you
when
we
had
the
property
on
22nd
street,
that
we
were
initially
trying
to
put
the
grocery
store
and
that
land
got
again
packaged
to
domain
homes,
and
we
were
trying
to
get
it
switched
back
out
because
at
that
time,
that
was
our
most
ideal
location
for
a
grocery
store
and
it
didn't
happen.
L
L
after
completing
the
credit
class,
I
came
and
brought
those
ideas
of
how
we
could
make
that
into
a
development,
possibly
having
some
housing
a
grocery
store,
creating
our
own
armature
works
in
east
tampa.
I
brought
those
ideas
before
you
and
I
even
brought
the
ideas
of
the
slow
processes
that
we
have
in
east
tampa
and
why
it
takes
so
long
for
things
to
happen.
So
we're
talking
about
four
plus
years
that
I
have
been
bringing
these
problems
before
you.
L
L
L
When
are
we
gonna
say
because
we're
just
supposed
to
provide
you
with
ideas
and
we've
been
providing
ideas.
So
when
are
we
going
to
say
we're
now
going
to
take
those
and
we're
going
to
implement
it?
When
I
say
we,
I
mean
you
you're,
going
to
implement
the
ideas
and
help
move
it
along.
When
is
that
going
to
happen,
because
I
tonight
I'm
hearing
all
these
ideas
happen
again
and
I'm
just
getting
flashbacks
of
the
last
four
years
of
bringing
these
ideas.
L
So
I'd
like
to
hear
how
each
of
you
plan
to
make
this
happen
for
east
tampa?
If
each
of
you
can
say
this
is
what
I'm
committed
to
so
now,
we
have
something
that
we
can
say
well.
Carlson's
committed
to
this
goods
is
committed
to
this
hertax
sitro
maniscalco
vieira
miranda
all
are
committed
to
doing
this.
So
now
we
have
something
that
we
can
actually
take
to
the
bank
in
cash.
L
So
if
you
don't
mind,
how
do
you
plan
to
take
this
of
what
we've
been
saying
about
staff,
slow
process
ideas?
We've
had
everything.
How
do
you
plan
to
turn
this
around
for
east
tampa?
Because
it's
not
a
new
idea.
It
is
not
something
except
for
councilmember
hertag.
It's
not
something
that
you've
heard
for
the
first
time:
okay,
okay,.
A
Cause
they're
asking
for
answers
for
this
council.
I
mean
it's
this
body,
ms
goodly,
you
know
I've
asked
for
these
things
since
I've
been
here.
That's
when
I
was
in
the
cec,
and
I
hate
that
word
strong
form
of
mayor
of
government.
A
But
as
far
as
I
can
put
every
idea
on
the
table-
and
I
can
put
a
motion
in
and
get
a
second
by,
mr
carlson
and
the
rest
of
the
council
may
vote
upon
it.
It
goes
to
the
administration
for
review
when
they
have
their
stab
means
and,
and
then
whatever
30
days
or
60
days,
when
we
ask
for
it
to
come
back,
they
come
back
and
stand
before
us
and
tell
us
what
they
can
do
or
what
they
can't
do.
I
always
say:
don't
tell
them
what
you
can't
do.
A
I
don't
know
what
you
can
do
so
for
me.
It's
it's
more
or
less
once
we
make
the
recommendations
we
we
need
the
support
of
the
administration.
Now
the
cra
is
a
little
bit
different,
but
again
the
way
our
cra
is
written
is
we
have
our
executive
director
who
answers
to
us,
mr
mccrae
and
arrest
the
answer
still
to
the
administration.
They
don't
answer
to
us.
A
Then
what
you
have
is
that
the
the
manager
then
takes
the
stuff
to
the
city,
employees
to
try
to
implement
or
get
his
feedback
or
whatever,
and
it
again,
maybe
in
a
year
or
nay,
and
I
can't
push
the
envelope.
I
can't
make
them
do
anything
now.
Mr
carlson
says:
if,
if
we
say
okay,
we
want
it
outsourced,
so
we
outsource.
That
means.
There's
more
money!
That's
going
to
come
out
your
cra
budget
versus
the
city
help.
A
If
they
want
to
do
it,
the
city
helped
to
get
it
done,
which
you
know
the
lawyer's
fee.
They
don't
we're
paying
that
you
know
you
have
to
worry
about
paying
other
permits
or
different
things,
but
if
we
say
we're
going
to
outsource
this
project,
that
means
that
we
got
to
foot
the
bill
and
everything.
A
Maybe
some
projects
we
need
to
do
that.
I
don't
know
I
mean
I
mean
I
think
that's
something
we
have
to
look
at
down
the
road,
maybe
some
projects
we
have
to
look
at
saying
it
has
to
be
outsourced,
or
maybe
the
city's
too
busy,
because
they
got
other
things
going.
They
can't
get
that
done
for
us
as
fast
you
want
it
done,
that's
the
best.
A
I
can
tell
you
from
what
I've
seen
being
a
councilman
here,
so
it
frustrates
me
sometimes,
but
that
I'm
up
front
everybody
knows
me,
I'm
vocal,
I'm
a
friend
of
my
teeth.
The
way
it
is.
I
only
can
do
what
I
can
do
and
that's
what
I
can
ask.
So
that's
my
take
on
it.
I'm
gonna
continue
to
make
motions
and
continue
to
get
their
answers
and
hope
they
can
get
the
job
done.
O
In
the
last
administration,
the
the
head
of
economic
development
was
also
the
head
of
cra
and
the
cra
meetings
lasted
a
half
hour
and
and
and
and
they
were,
the
cras
were
subsidies
for
developers
that
the
administration
wanted
to
develop,
and
I
what
I,
what
I
and
also
by
the
way
I've
attended
two
or
three
of
the
of
your
cic
meetings.
But
then
we
got
our
hands
slapped
by
the
lawyers.
Who
said
you
guys
can't
attend
those
meetings.
O
How
are
we
supposed
to
do
anything
if
we
can't
attend
the
meetings?
They
can't
listen
to
anything.
All
we
hear
is
short
updates
every
month
and
the
executive
director
would
update
us
each
15
minutes
every
month.
So
what
I
would?
What
what
I'm
going
to
do
in
the
next
meeting
is
I'm
going
to
propose
getting
a
full-time
executive
director
and
we
need
absolutely
to
rely
on
his
travis
unique
experience
and
successes,
but
we
need
a
full-time
person
to
look
over
this.
O
It's
it's
the
our
duty
in
the
way
we're
using
this
money,
and
we
can't
have
a
situation
like
this.
We,
I
think
we've
got
great
staff
members
assigned,
but
they
need
direction
and
they
need
to
be
able
to
work
with
you
all
and
they
need
to
not
be
stopped
by
the
city
administration
from
doing
it.
Otherwise,
if
the
only
way
to
fix
it
is
to
hand
the
whole
thing
over
to
the
mayor's
office,
then
let's
do
that
because
we
have
to
get.
We
have
to
get
results.
O
One
last
idea
that
I
would
suggest
that
I
don't
know
if
morris
would
let
us
do
this,
but
what
if
we,
we
are
seven
of
us
in
their
acre
districts.
What
if
each
of
us
took
one
of
them
and
said
we'll
attend
the
meetings
and
listen
and
be
the
liaison
back
to
the
board?
I
don't
know
if
that's
possible,
but
we
obviously
if,
if
this
cra
board
is
going
to
be
responsible
for
the
cre
districts
and
money,
we
have
to
be
more
involved
and
we
have
to
get
a
lot
more
information.
I
The
issue
just
to
address
it
with
you
all
attending
cac
meetings.
There
we
have
a
pilot,
we
have
an
adopted
policy
about
how
that's
supposed
to
be
done,
but
part
of
the
issue
is,
if
more
than
one
of
you
attends
a
cac
meeting,
then
there
is
a
risk
of
this
becoming
a
violation
of
sunshine,
because
then
you
are
basically
conducting
cra
business
or
discussing
issues
that
would
come
before
you
as
a
body,
and
you
can't
have
two
of
you
discussing
that
outside
of
a
noticed
meeting.
I
I
Q
Q
The
previous
mayor
wanted
a
mother's
day
weekend,
completion
date
and
mother's
day
weekend
there
was
a
big
shebang:
36
million
dollars
the
hannah
project
that
has
an
estimated
completion
date
of
next
spring
next
april.
I
think
wow
right
before
right
after
elections
right,
but
a
100
million
plus
dollar
project
gets
a
completion
date,
but
east
tampa
can't
get
basic
things
done
without
being
held
up
for
whatever
reason,
but
when
it's
prioritized
by
whoever's
in
power
or
whatever
it
gets
done,
east
tampa
deserves
that
same
respect
and
priority.
That's
just
my
thought.
P
And
you
know
when
I
speak
on
on
things
I'll
wear
both
my
city,
council
hat
and
my
cra
hack,
because
I
kind
of
think
they
obviously
go
together.
You
know
there's
there's
one
of
the
things
I
brought
up
tonight.
I
would
love
to
see
consistent
with
the
law,
as
mr
massey
spoke
about.
If
we
can
get
cras
to
start
dealing
further
with
training
issues.
I
know
we.
P
We
we
have
the
the
good
folks
from
the
skills
center
here
tonight,
but
particularly
given
until
we
get
an
issue
we're
going
to
be
discussing
thursday
in
tampa
city
council,
which
is
returning
citizens.
If
we
can
get
cras
in
a
in
a
you
know,
legally
a
consistent
and
proper
way
through
grants,
whatever
it
may
be,
to
help
support
training
in
any
tampa
and
in
our
cras.
P
For
folks
who
are
leaving
prisons
and
just
want
to
return
to
work
and
just
provide
money
for
their
families
and
put
food
on
the
table.
That's
awesome.
That's
great!
I'm
110
committed
to
that.
You
know
one
thing
that
I
also
that
we
passed.
I
guess
it
was
last
week
when
we
had
city
council
is
making
sure
that
all
of
our
parks
are
disability
friendly
and
that's
something
that
acutely
affects
east
tampa.
P
A
lot
of
children
in
throughout
all
of
our
city
with
special
needs
disabilities,
but
in
certain
parts
of
our
city,
they're,
not
looked
after
by
government
and
by
public
institutions,
the
way
that
they
should-
and
I
think
that
parks
and
recreation
is
certainly
one
of
those
great
areas.
You
know
continuing
to
push
for
youth
programs
again
through
our
if
we
can,
through
our
cras
etc.
P
D
M
Than
most
maybe
I
have
never
been
to
a
cac
meeting
and
very
simple.
The
way
I
look
at
it
may
be
different
may
be
totally
wrong,
but
I
don't
want
to
be
a
city
council,
member
and
a
community
development
radio
sitting
here
and
listen
to
the
cra
when
I've
already
been
there
and
not
because
of
me,
but
any
I
this
my
feeling
personally,
if
I
said,
there's
an
elected
official
somebody
may
say
I
wonder
what
he's
interested
in.
Maybe
what
about
that?
I
don't
want
to
change
anyone's
idea.
This
is
your
baby.
M
This
is
what
you
want
to
do
in
your
neighborhood
and
I'm
all
for
it.
But
I've
got
to
get
myself
away
from
that,
because
when
I
sit
here
as
a
member
of
the
voting
body
of
the
cra,
I
don't
want
to
have
a
conflict.
I
don't
want
to
remember
anything
that
I
saw
before
I
want
to
direct
it
to
the
cra
and
then
we're
going
to
work
on
it
to
get
it
accomplished,
one
way
or
the
other,
whether
that's
right
or
bad,
I'm
not
apologizing.
M
R
Okay,
I'm
gonna
give
this
a
shot
because
you
asked
for
specific
things,
so
what
I'm
gonna
do
and
because
I
just
haven't-
had
a
chance.
I've
only
been
in
this
position
for
two
weeks,
I'm
going
to
read
the
sap
I'm
going
to
read
it,
I'm
going
to
go
back
and
read
the
crp
I'm
going
to
focus
on
this
retreat
because
I
feel
like
that's
the
first
thing
that
needs
to
happen
to
make
anything
better,
and
I'm
also
going
to
say
that
I
will
read
your
minutes.
R
D
I
go
there
strictly
for
one
thing,
public
comment:
I
want
to
hear
what
the
neighborhood
is
saying.
I've
been
there
on
many
many
occasions
which
I'm
sure
everybody
in
this
room
can
attest
to.
But
the
moment
one
motion
is
made
I'm
out
the
door
simply
because
I
want
your
information
to
come
here.
I
don't
want
to
hear
it
at
the
cac
meeting.
D
My
grandmother
told
me
yesterday
has
passed
tomorrow
may
never
come
today
is
here
and
now,
and
what
we
have
started
here
and
now
was
a
major
concern
of
mine.
Thank
you,
councilman
goode,
for
calling
for
this,
but
we
have
heard
a
whole
plethora
of
things
that
we,
when
I
say
we
need
to
work
on.
My
grandmother
also
told
me
we
could
fail
on
our
own.
D
L
L
D
I'm
gonna
let
miss
connie,
and
now
we
have
changes
and
my
my
commitment
is
to
make
sure
those
changes
come
to
fruition.
J
I
just
want
to
say
that
that
this
passive
attempt,
as
if
I
think
councilman
guido
and
bill,
definitely
get
it
as
being
non-black
men.
It's
what
we
were
talking
about
tonight,
strong
former
mayor,
what
that
mean
a
deliberate
action,
whether
it's
that
mayor
this
may
or
other
mayor
that
has
made
a
decision
that
this
community
ain't
gonna
move
no
further
we're
paying
in
salaries.
J
I
believe
over
half
a
million
dollars
over
a
half
a
million
dollars
in
salaries
right
now
and
we're
going
to
get
all
these
other
people
they're
talking
about
and
all
we're
saying,
just
go
and
get
a
simple
rfp.
Just
if
you
didn't
did
it
before,
don't
don't
try
to
recreate
the
wheel,
we'll
tweak
it
ourselves.
J
We
just
want
simple
roofs
to
be
rehabbed
on
the
property.
We
got
two
million
dollars
in
the
budget.
We
want
a
simple
house,
so
workers
can
stay
in
our
community
if
this
mayor
and
you
all
placate
to
her
wishes
that
you
gonna
ignore
east
tampa
because
it's
a
strong-willed
former
mayor.
I
ain't
never
heard
of
nothing
like
that,
because
we
come
and
make
a
single
vote
for
everybody.
J
J
We
need
to
know
that
this
staff
is
going
to
be
at
100
performance.
We
can
say
that,
but
if
the
mayor
says
no,
then
how
are
you
going
to
review
what
she's
saying?
That's
what
I'm
going
to
be
looking
for?
Who
going
to
stand
up
to
the
mayor
when
east
tampa
is
just
drowning
in
misery,
they
say,
don't
say
hopeless,
but
when
we
got
continual
gun
violence,
we
got
double-digit
unemployment.
We
got
houses
falling
apart
itself,
the
developers
that
are
coming
in
and
building
them
for
four
hundred
thousand
dollars.
J
J
J
I
appreciate
her
leadership
she's
still
in
the
game.
We
want
it
done
and
we
want
it
done
immediately.
So
we
ain't
looking
for
what
we
in
april
don't
plan
us
on
christmas.
We
want
to
see
a
rehab
program
asap.
Yes,
we
want
asap.
We
want
to
see
a
housing
development
for
workers
in
our
community.
We
got
the
money
make
it
happen.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time.
D
G
I
know
the
hours
late
so
I'll
just
make
it
really
quick.
When
I
came
on
the
cac
the
accommodations
were
horrendous.
G
I
think
somebody
took
their
iphone
and
put
on
a
table
in
the
middle
of
the
room,
and
everybody
tried
to
yell
and
scream
and
hear
what
was
happening,
and
I
mean
it
was
just.
It
was
just
a
a
complete
disregard
and
disrespect
for
what
the
city
can
provide
and
it
is
the
epitome
of
some
of
the
other
things
you
see.
G
I
think,
if
I'm
not
correct
from
wrong
councilman
goose,
you
know
looked
at
it
and
it
looks
like
a
movie
production.
That's
happening
in
that
room
now,
but
it
didn't
happen
until
he
really
stomped
and
yelled
and
kicked
demanding
that
we
get.
You
know
the
proper,
appropriate
cameras
in
the
room,
microphones
on
all
the
tables
that
the
screen
would
be
set
up
and
then
all
the
staff
that
you
need
to
make
that
thing
operate.
G
We
need
that
kind
of
effort
applied
to
all
the
other
things
that
we
need,
so
the
reagan
park.
Location
from
my
perspective
is
a
great
location.
The
meeting
room
accommodates
people
they
attend.
I
think
we
could
use
a
podium
for
people
to
to
come
to
and
stand
at
when
they
come
and
speak
right
now,
it's
a
table,
but
for
what
we
had,
we
first
started
out
and
that's
18
years
later.
G
It's
just
the
epitome
of
I
think
what
can
be
done
if
the
energy
and
effort
is
put
behind
getting
things
at
a
different
level,
so
the
meaning
for
us
I'm
concerned
we
do
have
some.
You
know
the
jazzy
seniors
want
their
room,
but
besides
that,
the
the
accommodation
for
the
meeting
I
think
is,
is
more
than
adequate.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
N
Meetings
and
locations-
I
went
to
it's
reagan
park
part
and
I
have
to
agree
with
attorney
paris
that
there
was
a
a
lot
of
staff
effort,
I.t
that
was
putting
together
the
microphones
and
it
was
really
a
production
outside
my
expertise.
But
I
was
just
talking
to
mr
mccray
that
we
definitely
can
try
to
reconfigure
the
room,
make
sure
that
there's
a
podium
there
and
make
sure
that
logistically
the
meeting
space
functions
for
the
cac.
N
S
S
D
D
S
S
My
lumbar
I've
been
I've
been
rear-ended
and
I
have
to
stand
up
and
take
the
wall
because
of
the
pressure,
but
the
chairs
we
have
in
our
at
reagan
park.
We
need
better
because
when
you're,
when
your
body's
stressed
your
mind,
is
not
thinking
with
all
clarity,
so
I'm
asking
for
that
and
cedric.
We
do
want
the
minutes,
as
we
stated
in
a
timely
manner,
with
all
of
the
package
in
them,
so
that
we
can
read
this
stuff
and
any
of
you
board
members
that
are
not
reading
your
information.
S
S
We
want
to
thank
you
all
for
this.
We
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do
and
we're
ready
we're
more
than
ready.
I
I
don't
have
the
personality
of
miss
burton.
I
don't
have
the
personality
of
miss
goodly,
but
I
can
definitely
tell
you
we
are
ready.
Our
community
is
ready.
Let's
get
started.
D
Any
board
members
have
any
closing
statements.
I'll
go
from
my
right
to
left.
Councilman
carlson,
councilman,
goose
councilwoman
hurt
that.
R
Just
a
quick
note
that
I'm
just
looking
forward
to
getting
to
know
these
tampa
cra
a
bit
better.
So
give
me
a
chance.