►
From YouTube: CRA 4/14/22
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
A
D
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman.
It's
my
honor
and
pleasure
this
morning
to
welcome
pastor
kerry
nance
he's
been
a
tampa
police
chaplain
since
2005
married
to
his
wife
for
now
almost
29
years,
coming
up
this
october
with
three
wonderful
children.
It's
my
honor
to
welcome
the
pastor
to
give
the
invocation.
If
we
could
all
please
stand
and
remain
standing
for
the
pledge.
F
We
just
want
to
thank
you
for
the
safety
or
we
know
of
so
many
atrocities
and
problems
around
the
country
and
lord
we're
just
thankful
for
your
blessing
and
your
hand
upon
us
and
lord
as
we
come
to
this
day,
god,
I
would
ask
that
you
would
bless
and
help
our
leadership
that
you
would
give
them
the
we,
the
wisdom,
lord,
that
they
need
be
with
the
city
council
as
they
overlook
so
many
areas
and
make
decisions
and
give
direction
be
with
their
helpers.
Their
aids
lord,
is
there
trying
to
help
them
and
lord.
F
I
just
pray
that
your
grace
and
your
wisdom
would
be
upon
them.
I
pray
that
you
would
be
with
our
our
police
department
that
you
would
overshadow
those
men
and
women
as
they
stand
on
the
front
lines
and
our
fire
and
rescue.
I
pray
for
our
mayor
that
you
would
have
your
hand
upon
her
and
that
you
would
give
her
wisdom
as
well
and
lord.
We
we
do
ask
for
our
city
that
you
would
give
us
special
grace
that
you
would
give
us
direction
and
father
as
we
come
upon
this
session.
F
May
your
presence
be
here.
May
you
direct
in
everything
that
we
do
and
lord
as
we
come
upon
this
weekend?
We
can't
help
but
think
of
your
grace
upon
us,
and
we
thank
you
lord.
I
know
so.
Many
churches
in
tampa
bay
will
be
celebrating
the
fact
that
jesus
christ
came
and
that
he
died
for
our
sins
and
lord
as
we
look
to
sunday
and
think
of
that
resurrection
and
the
hope
that
you
offer
we
thank
you
for
that
and
lord.
We
pray
your
blessing
and
all
that's
done
here
today
in
jesus
name,
amen,
amen,.
D
B
B
B
However,
there,
if
they're
going
to
take
advantage
of
communications,
media
technology
or
cmt,
they
must
pre-register.
The
instructions
were
in
the
notice
of
that
meeting
and
those
are
the
general
rules
for
for
public.
For
the
public
comment
portion
of
the
meeting.
G
C
C
D
G
Is
the
appointment
of
cac
members
to
channel
district?
There
were
a
couple
of
applicants
that
submitted
it
that
it
was
not
included
and
we
will
get
all
of
them
the
opportunity
to
be
included
in
the
vote
by
the
cra
board
for
those
appointments.
C
C
D
C
We'll
get
to
that
when
we
get
to
it.
Thank
you
all
right.
We
will
start
with
public
comment.
I
believe
we
already
have
our
first
speaker
standing
there
if
everybody
that
wishes
to
speak
during
our
public
comment,
could
please
form
a
line
over
to
my
left,
your
right,
and
we
will
start
with
our
first
public
comment.
Speaker.
D
Good
morning,
councilman
good
morning,
chair
citro
thanks
for
your
time.
My
name
is
taylor.
Al401,
east
jackson,
street
item
14
today
is
an
appointment
of
downtown
cra
community
advisory
committee.
Appointees
later
today,
you'll
hear
from
sean
barroweden,
who
is
a
consultant
with
my
firm,
real
building
consultants.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
understand
who
he
is.
D
He
is
a
young
kid
who
went
to
school
here
at
the
university
of
south
florida
studied
his
masters
in
urban
and
regional
planning
has
been
working
at
real
building
consultants,
doing
sustainability
and
resiliency
consulting
through
for
very
large
projects
throughout
the
downtown
channel
district
water
street
university
work
as
as
well
as
a
lot
of
community
work.
It's
including
piloting
the
parklet
program.
Actually
he
was
one
of
the
first
ones
of
recent
to
do
the
parklets
that
the
tampa
downtown
partnership
then
eventually
rolled
out
throughout
downtown.
D
He
also
works
in
the
community
garden
at
sulfur,
springs
and
helped
design
and
develop
that
with
the
ymca
he's
an
outstanding
candidate,
hard
working,
passionate
understands
the
issues
of
downtown
areas
and
building
sustainable
cities,
and
I
hope
that
you'll
consider
sean
barreweden
for
his
appointment
to
the
community
advisory
committee
for
the
downtown
cra.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
D
Good
morning
my
name
is
bob
whitmore.
I'm
the
executive
director
of
city
tree
of
citizens.
Action
group
heard
a
lot
about
oligarchies
over
the
last
few
months.
It
may
surprise
you
that
they
aren't
just
a
russian
phenomenon
definition
of
oligarchy.
According
mr
webster
is
a
very
rich
business
leader
with
a
great
deal
of
political
influence.
D
D
Because
of
this
we,
the
people
have
started
a
gofundme
to
help
john
pay,
his
legal
fees.
You
can
give
it
go
fund
me
backslash,
dingfelder,
dash
defense,
dash
fund
I'll,
say
it
again:
gofundme
backslash,
dingfelder,
slash
defense.
Dash
fund
we've
already
raised
over
twenty
thousand
dollars
of
a
sixty
five
thousand
dollar
goal
over
the
last
23
23
days,
we'll
keep
going
until
john's
bills
are
paid
because,
while
we
knew
that,
while
he
knew
there
was
a
price
to
be
paid
for
fighting
the
oligarchs
part
of
that
price
shouldn't
be
65
000
of
his
own
money.
I
J
H
Yes,
could
you
please
hand
that
okay,
mr
adams,
please
go
ahead
all
right,
my
name
is
eddie
adams
jr,
and
I
rise
this
morning
to
make
you
aware
of
a
disservice
that
the
city
council
has
done
to
the
black
community.
H
So
if
I
ask
you
how
much
money
do
the
city
of
tampa
spend
with
black
businesses
in
the
tampa
bay
area,
you
will
find
that
is
less
than
two
percent
of
your
annual
budget
is
spent
with
black
businesses,
which
pretty
much
makes
makes
you
as
a
city
council,
not
return
nearly
as
much
of
the
taxes
to
the
black
community
as
you
take.
So
if
the
black
community
is
20
for
25
of
your
community
24
25
of
the
taxes
you
take
in,
but
you
return
less
than
two
percent
to
that
community.
H
That
mean
you're
pretty
much
doing
what
this
nation
was
started
on
taxation
without
representation
you're,
not
spending
money
back.
That
means
you're,
not
creating
black
millionaires
and
billionaires.
Who
should
be
getting
the
percentage
of
the
money
back
to
the
community
that
they
pay
in
taxes
in
this
community?
You
have
some
good
players.
The
airport
has
minority
spend
requirements
on
every
contract.
They
issue
tamper
general,
which
is
the
information
you
have
in
front
of
you.
H
Moffat
moffat
spent
millions
of
dollars
last
year
with
the
black
community
and
the
city
of
tampa.
If
you're
not
looking
for
it,
you
don't
find
it
so
usually
when
reports
like
this
are
given
you
usually
say:
well,
we
don't
know
so
I'm
going
to
ask
you
and
I'm
going
to
continue
to
ask
you
to
find
out
how
much
money
the
city
of
tampa
actually
spends
with
black
businesses.
H
I'm
not
concerned
about
minorities,
because
what
you
do
is
you
say:
well,
we
spend
so
much
with
white
women
and
that's
the
largest
population
in
this
country,
but
somehow
for
financial
spending
and
reports
they
become
a
minority.
So
I'm
more
concerned
about
how
much
I
mean
you
may
say:
well,
we
can't
say
how
much
we
spend
with
the
black
community,
but
you
definitely
can
do
the
numbers.
You
can
run
the
numbers
find
out
because
what
you're
actually
doing
you're
making
it
such
that
whatever
number
of
dollars
would
have
went
to
this
community.
H
They
don't
get
because
you
don't
spend
with
the
black
community.
I
mean
the
two
percent
is
negligible,
so
what
I'm
acting
is
for
you
to
be
fair
and
equitable,
with
with
your
community
as
a
whole,
I
can't
speak
for
the
hispanic
and
agents
and
all
the
other
folks,
but
what
I
am
doing,
I'm
asking
you
if
you
could
at
some
point
in
time,
tell
us
as
a
community
how
much
money
the
city
of
tampa
is
actually
spending
with
black
businesses
in
the
city
of
tampa.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
F
Hello
good
morning,
good
morning,
most
high
desk
spot
hdc,
queen
king,
queen
vubala,
vladimir
pen,
okay,
I'm
sure
what
we
did
yesterday
to
talk
about
the
blessing
for
ukraine
and
stuff.
F
F
Sovereign
worldwide
global
american
kingdom,
united
nations,
siam
affinity,
13
813,
a.I.m,
cia,
nato,
ukraine,
russian,
irish,
scottish
ancient
american.
F
By
my
decree,
I
hereby
break
the
yoke
false
blindness,
dumbness,
lostness,
casted
away,
never
to
return
again
advocate
ever
similar
to
me,
and
that
was
referring
to
ukraine.
I
had
to
say
everyone
took
some
hours,
but
we
got
it
done
now.
Africa.
You
keep
complaining
about
this
and
that
let
me
explain
something:
you've
been
paying
your
taxes
to
the
eu.
F
F
That
is-
and
you
know
you
black
one's
gonna
talk
all
that
junk
rents,
five
thousand
dollars
a
month
as
far
as
gas
go,
that's
ten
dollars
and
thirty
one
cents
and
the
cheapest
meal
you're
gonna
find
at
a
restaurant.
It's
a
hundred
dollars
not
tell
me
about
how
much
we
don't
care
when
we
freaking
put
our
lives
on
the
line,
black
ones,
don't
give
a
turn
about.
None
of
us.
E
Tampa
florida,
john
digfielder
26,
been
speaking
on
it
for
years:
gentrification
high,
rent
prices,
high
housing
prices,
home
ownership
out
of
reach
government
out
of
touch
with
the
general
population,
dictatorial
policies,
education
controls,
those
are
white
people
problems,
those
aren't
black
problems.
Those
aren't
the
problems
that
the
26
percent
of
the
black
population
that
inhabits
this
community
or
the
problems
of
the
fourteen
percent
of
the
black
population
of
america.
We
africans
have
different
problems.
Our
problems
are
so
far
in
the
back
burner.
Most
people
don't
even
see
our
problems
as
being
understood.
E
Crime
isn't
a
black
problem.
Housing
isn't
a
black
problem.
War
in
ukraine?
Isn't
a
black
problem.
Air
quality,
isn't
a
black
problem.
Steel
production?
Isn't
a
black
problem.
Space
exploration,
isn't
a
black
problem
for
the
past
622
years.
Our
only
problem
or
the
only
black
problems
have
been
undeclared.
E
If
he
did
a
survey
in
a
poll,
the
entire
black
community
of
the
world,
99
of
black
people
would
list
the
10
most
important
contemporary
issues,
as
will
smith
slap
tom
brady,
coming
out
of
retirement
nba
young
boy,
beefing
with
someone
the
baby
right
to
free
speech,
kanye
west
and
kim
kardashian
megan.
The
stallion
twerking
is
lebron
james,
better
than
michael
jordan
or
kobe
bryant
housewives
of
atlanta.
Some
black
fools
are
still
talking
about
tupac
versus
biggie.
E
Nowhere
in
that
list
would
you
find
the
word
reparations
black
freedom,
black
power,
marcus,
garvey,
622
years
of
oppression,
connected
to
our
historical
and
contemporary
dispossession.
White
people
have
it
so
game
tight
that
right
here
in
this
city
of
tampa
florida,
a
hundred
million
dollar
project
is
in
play
and
of
the
26
million
dollars.
We
africans
supposed
to
get
out
of
the
deal.
We
get
nothing
white
people
have
been
going
west,
young
man
for
over
400
years,
so
gentrification
is
just
part
of
their
mobility
transformation.
E
Taking
all
the
land
from
the
indigenous
population
and
forcing
them
in
reservations
is
the
biggest
example
of
gentrification
other
than
putin,
giving
the
ukrainian
six
months
notice
to
get
out
by
lining
up
tanks
in
the
ukrainian
border.
We
black
people
have
to
wake
up
to
the
reality
of
capitalism
versus
reparations
and
combine
that
with
black
people
having
a
nuclear
weapon
under
our
control
for
the
benefit
of
african
africans.
Internationally,
our
problems
are
reparations,
freedom
and
black
power
thanks
mr
daniel.
K
So
we
can
have
a
massive
infusion
of
rehabilitating
housing,
we're
talking
about
giving
young
people
an
opportunity
that
they
don't
see
their
life
expectancy
ending
at
30
years,
but
we
can
use
that
money
to
generate
full
employment
in
our
community,
but
yet
and
still
what
we
have
is
the
duplication
of
creating
businesses
and
laying
out
infrastructure
that
would
give
new
people
that's
moving
into
our
community
better
opportunity,
it
is
true,
gentrification
is
occurring
and
a
lot
of
times.
You
say:
well,
you
can't
control
a
market,
but
you
need
to
be
watching
inflation.
K
And
yet
the
consultant
that
is
being
used
can
come
to
this
council
and
tell
you
that
money
was
spent
for
a
bakery
and
a
printer,
and
you
think
that's
enough.
It's
not
we're
not
gonna
go
away.
We're
gonna,
keep
advocating
we're.
Gonna
hold
you
accountable
to
the
resolution
that
you
sign
that
you
say
you
acknowledge
the
disparity
that
exists
in
our
community
and
you
have
until
your
next
election
to
show
us
that
you
understood
and
you
made
changes.
Thank
you
thank.
C
K
Good
morning
my
name
is
kela
mccaskill
with
the
center
for
economic
development.
I
have
a
cleanup
well,
I
want
to
start
off
with
the
east
tampa
request,
there's
so
much
happening
in
that
cra
and
it's
had
the
most
money
it's
ever
had
in
the
duration
from
once.
I've
followed
it,
but
my
fear
is
that
maybe
we
don't
have
a
staff,
or
I
would
like
to
make
certain
that
we
have
a
staff
that
makes
sure
that
money
is
spent
with
processes.
K
It's
it's
spent
equitably.
It's
making
sure
that
we're
moving
forward
in
that
district
and
and
making
certain
that
that
happens.
I
know
recently
we
hired
they
hired
the
city
hired
nicole
travis.
I
believe
her
name
is,
and
she
has
a
background
that
could
definitely
support
the
movement
going
forward
in
east
tampa.
I
don't
know
that
the
rest
of
the
staff
has
that.
K
So
I
would
ask
if
it's
possible,
I'm
not
sure
how
that
what
that
org
chart
looks
like,
but
I
would
hope
that
she
has
a
lot
of
involvement
in
east
tampa
as
we
continue
to
implement
programs
processes
and
as
they
begin
to
develop,
because
I'm
just
afraid
that
once
they
make
certain
improvements
with
infrastructure
and
other
things
that
they
may
attempt
to
abuse
the
monies.
And
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
nicole
trevor
someone
with
those
type
of,
though
that
skill
set,
is
involved
as
much
as
possible
in
east
tampa.
K
Then
I
want
to
also
I
know
I
sent
an
email,
but
I'm
going
to
extend
the
invitation
again
for
the
community
cleanup
previously.
You
all
were
involved
and
played
a
role
in
improving.
We
go
in
through
this
marginalized
community
and
help
seniors
and
disabled
persons
with
community
cleanup.
You
all
offered,
or
you
extended
the
ability
for
the
solid
waste
to
pick
up
the
trash,
and
then
you
also
come
out
and
participate
as
well.
It's
just
a
good
look
that
good
things
are
happening
in
east
tampa
and
you
get
to
be
a
part.
C
A
L
Good
morning,
cra
committee,
before
I
get
started,
I'm
going
to
give
a
shout
out
to
ac
who
has
the
west
ham
for
cra
he's
a
stand
up.
Guy
he's
doing
a
great
job
he's
doing
a
great
job,
because
not
only
does
he
bring
the
skill
set,
but
he
brings
the
passion
to
listen
to
everybody
to
make
sure
they're
inclusive.
L
So
today
we
come
in
and
two
hats
first
is
the
center
for
non-profit
community,
but
you
roll
them
in
and
then
as
the
west
campus
city
state
as
the
non-profit
center
for
nonprofit.
We
are
a
national
organization
that
works
in
over
25
states
and
bringing
technical
assistance
to
non-nonprofit.
L
Today
we
probably
have
worked
with
over
420
businesses
to
get
started
throughout
the
united
states
related
to
west
campus.
Our
commitment
to
west
campus
to
the
register
in
that
particular
respect,
we've
had
over
40
different
community
needs
to
deal
with
the
issue
related
to
your
own
yard.
In
addition
to
the
meetings
that
the
developer
has
given,
we
bring
into
the
cdc
some
software.
That's
really
really.
One
of
the
software
that
we
bring
in
is
known
as
microsoft.
Mac.
L
That's
going
to
allow
us
to
map
everything
that
we
need
to
map
and
it's
very
important
when
you
want
to
make
a
presentation
recommend
for
a
neighborhood
group,
for
example:
where
is
trash
in
the
neighborhood
where
vacant
housing?
That's
just
some
of
the
work
that
they
can
do.
The
other
thing
we're
bringing
is:
what's
called
market
analyst
data,
so
we
can
analyze
the
data
necessary
to
do
economic
development.
L
We
also
have
a
software
in
which
we
can
drill
down
and
tell
you
everybody's
income,
the
fact
I
can
take
everybody's
income
on
the
city
council
and
the
value
of
their
house.
That's
how
deep
this
particular
software
goes,
but
we're
going
to
use
it
for
mobilization
in
the
west
campus
of
community,
we
plan
to
train
10
community
residents.
L
L
Now,
here's
what
we
plan
to
do
we
plan
to
go
after
800
000
from
federal
government
for
that
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars.
It
comes
back
to
talk
to
the
fights
you
just
have
to
bring
another
20
million
and
then
we're
going
to
give
grants
to
bring
in
80
million.
So
what
we're
talking
about
this
project?
We
plan
to
bring
in
80
million
additional
dollars
to
invest
into
the
west
hampshire
community.
Thank
you
so
much
for
giving
me
an
opportunity
to
talk,
because
this
is
about
economic
development.
Thank
you.
B
Okay
hi,
my
name
is
jean
stromeier.
I
generally
don't
come
to
these
cras
because
I
just
anyway,
but
I
was
looking
at
the
agenda-
and
I
looked
at
you
know
just
the
first
thing
that
came
up
to
my
head.
To
my
that
I
saw
is
number
one
and
it
has.
I
don't
know
that
name
kind
of
struck
me
and
I
realized
that
name
escrow,
whatever
that's
true
pisa,
I'm
not
really
good
with.
B
That
is
the
same
name
that
that
gina
grimes,
our
city
attorney,
was
texting
with
during
the
litigation
against
john
dingbalder.
Just
thought.
I'd
mention
that
I
don't
know
if
there's
some
kind
of
conflict,
but
it
doesn't
seem
like
a
you
know,
somebody,
that's
that's
supposed
to
help.
The
city
is
in
constant
contact
with
the
developers
who
are
overrunning
our
city
and
in
in
not
a
smart
way.
That's
why
we
have
our
neighborhoods
look
back
at
the
agenda.
Let's
see
the
ferry,
there
was
a,
I
think,
an
error
in
there.
B
I
was
going
to
talk
about
something
else,
but
I'm
going
to
be
back
on
the
gentleman
that
spoke
earlier
about
the
ding
fat
felder
matter,
and
I
do
believe
he
got
railroaded
as
most
everybody
does
there's
something
not
right
and
when
you
do
have
a
billionaire
and
the
elder
guards
coming
into
our
city,
just
as
the
bloomberg
situation
happened,
y'all
shouldn't
have
voted
for
that.
We
need
to
turn
that
around
because
we
didn't
elect
bloomberg
to
be
our
mayor.
B
We
didn't
elect
bloomberg,
consulting
to
sit
in
our
city
and
to
have
meetings
with
our
people.
We
didn't
elect
our
people
to
go
to
new
york
and
have
meetings.
That's
not
what
we
elected.
We
looked
at
you
guys
sitting
there
right
now.
We
elected
the
mayor,
that's
sitting
there
right
now.
We
did
not
elect
bloomberg
or
the
consulting
now
I
this
is
something
that
is
far
and
deep
and
people
don't
like
it,
and
I'm
gonna
tell
you
we
do.
Elections,
have
consequences,
and
also
these
people
everybody's
talking
about
the
government
owed
them.
B
The
government
doesn't
know
anybody
anything
and
anybody
unless
you
know
we
do
need
government
officials,
but
I
was
thought
never
to
work
for
the
government.
I
was
taught
to
work
for
yourself,
so
I
out
of
eight
children,
my
parents
had
most
everybody
is
self-employed,
have
made
their
own
way
and
I
think
everybody
needs
to
try
to
work
hard
to
get
where
you
need
to
get
in
life.
I
learned
that
from
mr
gucciardo
from
work
experience
back
in
elecho
high
school.
B
I
learned
it
at
at
a
web
junior
high
school
when
I
was
in
work
experience
so
work
for
yourself,
learn
how
to
interview
and
and
get
a
job
or
start
your
own
business.
That's
the
way
to
go,
not
your
government
handouts.
We
don't
need
that.
Thank
you.
C
A
Okay,
last
speaker,
we
have
is
miss
fran,
tate,
miss
tate.
If
you
can
hear
me,
please
unmute
yourself,
you
have
three
minutes
to
speak
good
morning,
council
members,
can
you
hear
me.
C
A
A
We
look
forward
to
working
with
you
in
east
tampa
and
seeing
you
at
the
jackson
heights
neighborhood
association
april
meeting
councilman
john
dingfelda
was
a
strong
supporter
of
our
neighborhood
association.
Thank
you
for
accepting
our
invitation
this
morning.
I'd
like
to
address
items
five
and
eleven.
A
A
A
M
M
We
got
an
email
from
one
of
the
cac
members
about
item
number
11
asking
us
to
vote
against
it.
Can
you
tell
us
to
the
the
cac
vote
in
favor
of
it
and
how
did
the
vote
go.
M
A
B
Was
that
it
I,
I
have
a
question
for
you
as
well:
yes,
ma'am,
so
the
application
process
and
order
like
west
tampa.
Do
you
when
you,
when
you
discuss
this,
do
you
have?
Do
you
have
any
paperwork?
I
I
didn't
find
any
information
about
the
actual
program.
Is
that
what
you
are
going
back
to
talk
more
about?
B
A
A
How
do
how
do
we
show
responsibility
if
we
are
just
approving
and
writing
checks
to
whoever,
however,
and
whenever
we
we
got
to
get
more
organized
in
east
tampa,
we
understand
that
we
we're
just
not
there
we're
just
not
where
we
need
to
be
in
our
cra,
but
we
want
to
be
there
where's
tampa.
N
I
think
that's
why
you're
getting
your
skull,
but
now
because
you
have
people
who
now
know
about
economic
development,
they
know
about
infrastructure
and
programming
versus
before
we
had
a
lot
of
our
seniors
that
were
on
our
boards
versus
what
east
ham
were.
First
with
that
partnership,
when
you
had
a
diana
heart,
you
had
a
mr
kinsey.
You
had
those
knowledgeable
people
when
these
times
first
jumped
up,
but
then
you
got
a
big
roadblock
and
then
there
was
no
money
for
a
long
time
now,
there's
money
and
people
went
away.
N
Now
you
have
people
coming
back,
who
are
now
interested
in
making
sure
east
tampa
flourishes
and
a
lot
of
people
just
now
going
to
the
cra
just
asking
for
money,
but
it's
money
that
really
don't
really
fit
into
what
the
cra
is
supposed
to
do,
and
I
think
that's
why
now
people
are
questioning
you
know,
and
I
got
a
call
about
some
other
projects
that
I
was
I
was
taken
back
as
well,
and
that
was
like
that
process.
N
So
I
can
understand
what
they're
saying
some
council
sierra
boy
needs
to
look
at,
but
I
think
you
know
I
know
the
frustration,
because
I've
sit
on
that
board
and
the
frustration
with
many
is
that
things
are
put
out
there,
but
it
takes
forever
for
them
to
come
back
and
get
implemented,
and
the
question
is
why
you
know
versus
if
if
the
administration
wants
something
moved,
it's
moved,
but
yet
eastern
folks
feel
like
when
they
put
an
idea
to
foster
the
people.
Things
are
they're
roadblocks.
N
That
may
not
be
true.
I
I
don't
know,
but
I
I
do
know
I've
sat
there
and
I
felt
that
way
before
and
there's
a
process
throughout
the
city,
but
I
think
the
for
me.
I
think
eastern
feels
that
they
need
to
be
bumped
up
and
what
are
the
processes
in
place?
They
need
to
be
moved
to
the
head
of
the
line,
so
they
can
start
seeing
some
of
the
goals
and
objectives
of
the
for
east
tampa.
N
N
So
I'm
hoping
that
moving
forward
we
can
get
some
of
these
roadblocks
out
of
the
way
in
each
table
goes
to
the
head
of
the
line
versus
being
in
the
middle
of
the
back
of
the
line
and
really
have
a
concentrated
effort
on
each
table
on
all
fronts.
So
I
do
understand
some
of
their
frustrations.
C
Any
of
the
comments
I
I
can
only
speak
from
my
time
with
the
ebor
cra
and
I
have
sat
in
many
different
cra
cac
meetings
for
public
comment
and
and
other
things
that
aren't
voted
on
and
the
procedures
I've
seen
in
these
other
cacs
cras
is
the
community
comes
together.
C
Talks
to
committee
members,
the
committee
members
take
it
forward
to
the
cac
it's
voted
on
by
the
cac,
and
then
the
projects
come
to
the
cra
board
and
I'm
hoping
we
can
have
more
cohesiveness
between
cras
and
the
community
advises
the
committees,
and
things
are
voted
on
at
the
cac
members
by
the
caac
members
and
then
presented
the
cra
board.
Miss
tater
are
you?
Are
you
still
there.
G
C
O
How
are
you
today,
I
am
here,
very
proudly
to
let
you
know
what's
going
on
in
drew
park
and
it's
a
lot,
so
I'm
even
using
a
cheat
sheet.
This
time
we
had
voted
on
bringing
in
a
consultant
to
help
us
with
our
parks
project
and
play
staff
through
all
their
processes
place.
Maker
design
was
chosen
designer
studio.
Please.
C
O
Did
I
not
say
my
name,
marissa
astro
giza
drew
park
cra
chair,
so
we
have
placemakers
design
studio.
They
came
to
talk
to
us
at
the
last
meeting
that
we
have
they're
going
to
be
gathering
some
data
and
helping
us
with
the
next
phase
of
the
linear
park
that
we
have
on
tampa
bay
boulevard,
as
well
as
a
new
concept
of
a
of
a
neighborhood
park
in
drew
park,
and
those
are
going
to
be
on
hubert
avenue.
O
This
project
started
several
years
ago
when,
through
airport
expansion,
we
lost
hunts
park
and
then
we
got
in
I
lopez
park.
We
had
cordelia
hunts
park
center,
but
the
residents
in
hunts
in
two
park
weren't
really
able
to
access
the
children
and
so
forth
across
del
marines.
So
it
was
always
on
our
radar
to
have
a
park
replace
the
park
that
we
lost.
We
do
have
the
linear
park.
It
does
need
to
be
a
little
bit
now
going
into
phase
two
developed
a
little
bit
more.
O
It's
a
beautiful
space,
a
beautiful
preserved,
green
space
is
wonderful
and
now
a
pocket
spa
park.
I
would
say,
probably
a
better
term
for
that.
A
neighborhood
park
for
the
kids,
the
neighborhood
children
and
parents
and
family
to
enjoy
we
do
want
to,
if
possible,
and
preserve
some
historical
value,
because
we're
all
very,
very
proud
of
our
historical
history
and,
of
course,
our
history
of
the
military
history
and
drew
park.
O
So
it's
going
to
be
a
wonderful
project
and
real
we're
all
very
excited
to
move
that
forward,
for
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
enhancement
for
the
neighborhood
we're
also
going
through.
We
voted
on
a
hiring
landscape
architect
for
lois
and
grady.
Many
of
you
remember.
It
was
a
great
overhaul
of
lois
and
grady,
and
it's
beautiful,
and
it
was
I
mean
so
much
went
into
that,
but
now
we're
at
the
point
where
we
need
to
go
back
and
see.
Okay,
how
is
it
you
know
being
maintained?
O
Are
there
safety
issues
now
that
perhaps
the
design
needs
to
be
changed
a
little
bit
so
we're
in
the
process
of
that
as
well
errors
wide
sidewalk
parking,
micro,
mobility,
improvements?
Okay,
we
voted
to
hire
a
multi-disciplinary
firm
to
look
at
the
sidewalk
programs.
The
gaps
we
do
have
gaps
identify
parking
areas.
We
know
we've
had
a
lot
of
parking
situations
in
drew
park,
improvements,
safety,
mobility.
O
You
know
we
have
we're
a
community
where
it's
a
lot
of
commerce
and
industry
and
we're
co-existing
with
a
very
built.
You
know
lined
residential
area,
but
we'll
also
have
commercial
and
resident
at
the
same
time.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
walk-in.
We
have
a
lot
of
people
coming
from
point
a
to
point
b.
O
We
have
a
lot
of
children,
we
have
a
lot
of
commerce
and
we
have
a
lot
of
big
trucks
and
with
air
cargo
road,
which
has
been
a
great
enhancement.
We
also
have
increased
traffic
that
goes
in
and
out
of
our
neighborhoods
that
we,
you
know
didn't
have
before.
So
we
need
to
look
at
that
for
safety
purposes.
You
know
and
that's
where
our
focus
is
to
make
sure
that
we
can
enhance
parkins,
sidewalks
mobility
and
safety.
O
So
good
news
is.
We
have
property
on
4221,
north
college
avenue
and
4224
north
hubert
avenue.
Many
years
ago
we
acquired
this
property,
so
we
could
have
affordable
housing
and
so
now
we're
moving
forward
with
the
project.
So
we
will
review
a
request
for
proposals
to
send
out
for
developers
it
will
go
down
its
process
and
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
accomplish
the
goal
that
we
set
set
forth
many
years
ago
when
we
acquired
these
properties.
So
that's
another
project
that
we're
going
on
that's
going
on
in
drew
park.
O
There
was
a
lot
going
on
in
drew
park.
We
really
are
moving
things
forward,
very
organized.
We
meet.
We
now
meet
back
again
at
district
one
in
tpd
and
holding
regular
meetings
and
moving
things
forward.
As
you
can
see,
we
are
also
working
with
police
department
and
to
see
if
we
are
any
future
partnerships
that
we
would
like
to
have
to
better
the
living
conditions
or
the
safety
conditions
in
drew
park.
O
We've
in
the
past
been
able
to
have
a
particular
project
with
the
police
department
many
years
ago,
that
was
extremely
successful,
with
cleaning
up
illegal
adult
businesses
that
should
not
have
been
existent
and
there
was
a
big
project
and
actually
the
cra
received
an
award
for
it,
a
state
award.
It
was
a
very
unique
partnership
with
the
police
department
and
so
now
we're
looking
for
possibly
an
additional
partnership
with
the
police
department
to
continue
to
increase
the
safety
in
due
park.
O
We
also
want
to
improve
our
gateways.
Other
gateways
into
drew
park
identify
that
we're
here
drew
park
is
a
very
long-standing
neighborhood
with
a
lot
of
military
history.
A
lot
of
pride.
You
know
a
lot
of
wonderful
history
in
drew
park
and
we
just
want
to
preserve
as
we
grow
forward
and
not
forget
our
history.
J
I
just
want
to
thank
mr
cortesa
and
her
board
and
the
cra
and
drew
park.
As
you
well
know.
You
mentioned
lois
avenue
and
grady,
and
at
one
time
that
was
just
a
miserable
place
even
to
drive
on
to
look
at
and
through
your
efforts
and
the
city's
efforts
together
combined.
We
got
money
from
the
grants
money
received
in
your
tax
money
and
lewis
avenue
and
grady
looks
really
really
nice
compared
to
how
it
was
and.
J
Better
every
day,
however,
a
lot
of
the
businesses,
not
all
of
them,
upgraded
when
they
saw
the
upgrade
that
you
folks
put
in
your
hard
dollars
into
and
you're
right.
They
still
need
some
visual
people.
You
know,
I
always
say
people
eat
with
their
mouth,
but
they
taste
with
their
eyes,
because
what
they
see
is
how
they
feel
and
when
you
drive
through
there
it
doesn't
need
a
little
tree
effort.
J
I
don't
know
what
kind,
because
I'm
not
an
arborist
and
but
I'm
glad
you're
doing
that
and
on
tampa
bay
boulevard
when
you
travel
and
you
go
heading
west
to
cargo
road
and
you
go
cargo
road,
there's
a
big
development
coming
on
the
corner
of
cargo
road
between
osborne
and
hillsboro
avenue
on
the
west
side
of
cargo
road,
and
evidently
that's
going
to
be
some
company.
I
think,
with
a
lot
of
people
working
there.
J
I
forget
the
name
of
it
right
now,
but
all
that
in
hcc,
when
they
built
all
the
apartments
on
lewis
and
the
roundabout
that
started
a
lot
of
spurring
people
to
move
back
and
what
you're
doing
for
affordable
housing
exactly
what
we
need.
Congratulations
to
you
and
everyone
in
drew
park.
Thank
you
so.
O
C
C
O
O
I
may
be
wrong,
please
correct
me,
and
so
these
are
projects
that
you
know
have
been
on
the
radar
for
a
while
and
been
maturing
others.
You
know
move
forward,
and
then
these
you
know,
so
it's
not
something
that
just
popped
out
of
the
the
air
we've.
You
know
been
listening
to
the
community
for
for
many
years
and
eventually
you
know
you
get
to
as
much
as
you
can
get
to
and
now
these
have
popped
up
and
it's
it's
turn
and
I
think
they're
great
projects.
N
N
The
issues
are
much
more
different
than
any
other
cra.
We
have.
Yes,
there
are
processes,
but
a
lot
of
times
during
the
process.
Some
of
our
people
don't
know
to
know
the
processes
they
don't
know.
They
don't
understand
it's
a
teaching
mechanism
that
has
to
be
in
place
for
each
time,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
transition
that
comes
through
with
those
boards
and
those
committees
they're
just
now,
starting
to
formulate
committees.
N
So
yes
there's
a
process,
mr
citro,
and
that's
something
that
mr
mcrae
and
and
mr
long
can
start
to
try
to
work
those
processes
in
dealing
with
our
citizens
in
each
tampa
dealing
with
our
committees
the
board
and
in
this
board
here.
But
there
is
a
process,
but
unfortunately,
it's
been
a
long
time.
Each
time
it
hasn't
had
that
process
to
know
what
the
process
is
about.
N
I
think
that
is
some
of
our
issues,
but
I
thank
you
for
what
your
work
you're
doing
in
drew
park
and
I'm
glad
the
process
is
working
in
drew
park,
because
I
think
your
board
is
a
little
bit
smaller
in
east.
Tampa
eastern
is
a
little
bit
more
unique
because
it
has
a
partnership.
It
has
all
these
different
other
components.
I
think
that's
the
problem
with
our
process,
so
we'll
be
able
to
get
on
track
like
everyone
else,
but
thank
you.
O
I'd
like
to
make
a
comment-
I
I
don't
know
much
about
east
tampa
right
now,
but
I
I
will
tell
you
that
the
strength
in
the
spirit
that
east
tampa
had
when
the
cras
started
and
commenced
really
helped
to
inspire
us
in
drew
park,
and
I
do
remember
that
I
mean
maybe
I'm
dating
myself,
but
that
was
10
11
12
years
ago.
I
don't
even
know
this.
J
N
O
And
I
I
do
remember
that,
and
I
do
remember,
as
you
know,
helping
start
that
cra
back
then
in
drew
park
and
east
tampa,
but
the
same
time
that
you
know
east
tampa
and
motivated
us,
and
I
I
don't
know
anything
about
the
other
discussion,
but
I
just
wanted
to
since
it
was
brought
up.
I
did.
I
didn't
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
to
tell
say
that
that
it
did
provide
leadership
and
actually
motivation
for
us.
C
Again,
please
thank
your
your
your
cac
members,
your
community
members
for
all
their
hard
work,
and
this.
O
Absolutely
thank
you.
On
a
personal
note,
I
have
no
knowledge
of
whatever
comments
were
made
during
the
public
comment
today,
absolutely
zero.
There
was
my
name
was
mentioned,
and
I'm
not
sure
why
and
honestly
nothing.
So.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
Thank.
J
B
P
B
P
P
P
P
The
project
is
going
exceptionally
well,
so
I'm
going
to
provide
an
overview
of
the
big
picture
and
the
cross
bay
theory
because
they're
all
part
of
the
same
parcel,
but
this
has
been
an
exceptional
year
and
miss
mcdonald
will
be
available
for
questions.
I'm
going
to
try
to
do
this
in
about
10
minutes.
You
have
the
powerpoint,
so
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
this
pretty
quickly.
Next.
P
Thanks,
thank
you.
As
I
mentioned,
this
is
a
public-private
partnership
between
hillsborough
county
hms
ferries
southwell
development
group.
The
engineering
of
record
is
kimlee
horn.
P
P
P
This
grant
that
came
out
was
only
for
existing
service
and
because
the
cross
bay
ferry
service
continued
to
run,
we
were
able
to
compete.
The
permanent
plan
is
to
run,
have
four
vessels
with
the
vessels
running
by
day
between
south
county
and
mcdill
air
force
base.
P
So
by
day
the
vessels
go
back
and
forth
in
the
evening
that
fleet
of
vessels
runs
between
downtown
tampa,
downtown
st
petersburg
and
south
county.
This
is
a
project
that's
been
advanced
by
hillsborough
county.
The
county
commission
has
allocated
3.7
million
dollars
for
design
and
engineering.
That's
an
extraordinary
amount
of
money,
there's
no
matching
from
anyone
else.
P
You
know
on
the
streetcar
project,
most
of
the
money
for
the
streetcars
coming
from
the
federal
and
state
government
here,
hillsborough
county
has
advanced
that
the
other
extraordinary
part
of
this
partnership
is
that,
in
fact,
hms
ferries
have
said.
Once
this
is
operating,
you
don't
have
to
subsidize
the
operations
making
it
the
only
transit
system
in
the
united
states
of
america,
where
you
don't
have
to
pay
to
keep
running
it
for
every
dollar
cost
to
run
heart
buses.
They
get
25
percent
back
in
revenue.
This
is
a
hundred
percent
covered.
P
The
other
extraordinary
part
of
this
is
mosaic
has
offered
free
land
on
their
down
big
bend
for
both
the
access
road
and
a
terminal.
P
P
The
air
force
has
presented
their
agreement
to
the
county
for
that
part
of
the
deal
and
the
air
force
has
taken
the
lead
on
doing
the
environmental
work.
So
it's
gone
very
well.
The
plans
are
pretty
robust,
as
I
mentioned
to
you
before
we
got
a
4.9
million
dollar
grant
hms
worked
carefully
with
the
county
and
framing
that
you.
P
Saint
petersburg,
pinellas,
hillsboro,
all
joined
the
both
transit
agencies
joined
all
four
area
congressmen
congress
people
joined
in
supporting
that
grant.
I'm
pleased
to
say
that
miss
mcdonald
was
the
point
person
in
crafting
that
grant
for
the
county
and
worked
with
your
governmental
leaders
and
putting
together
a
program
that
we
think
we
got
the
fourth
most
amount
of
money,
and
this
is
a
ferry
grant
program.
P
You
can't
it's
not
for
buses
or
anything
else,
there's
a
discretionary
pots
of
money
for
ferries,
and
you
know
the
fact
that
we
got
this
money
and
that
much
tells
you
how
the
federal
transit
administration
views
this.
P
We
have
the
unique
distinction
as
being
the
largest
metropolitan
area
in
the
united
states
of
america
on
a
major
waterway
that
does
not
use
the
waterways
for
moving
people,
but
now
we're
changing
that.
So
I'm
going
to
go
into
now
the
cross
bay
theory.
As
of
the
we're
running
32
trips
a
week,
we've
got
a
late
start
in
because
pinellas
county
took
a
while
to
get
there
part
of
the
agreement.
We
were
supposed
to
start
on
october
1st.
We
didn't
start
till
october.
P
19Th
the
ferry
service
ends
on
may
1st
next
year.
It
will
run
from
october
1st
to
the
end
of
may
each
year
the
service
is
extended,
but
we
can
only
do
32
trips
a
week
because
we
have
one
crew
overtime
rules,
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
this
shows
the
schedule,
as
I
mentioned,
we're
over
40
54
000
riders.
N
P
We
estimate
you
this
city
of
tampa
and
all
the
other
governments
will
get
approximately
a
forty
thousand
dollar
check
once
we
close
the
books
at
the
end
of
the
season,
which
will
be
may
first,
we
have
developed
a
cooperative
marketing
program.
We
have
about
a
dozen
different
companies
signed
up
for
that,
but
that's
not
going
to
get
rolled
out
until
next
year.
P
Here's
what
the
program
looks
for
this
coming
year,
because
we're
running
more
months,
the
cost
overall
cost
is
higher.
Each
local
government
would
be
requested,
and
this
is
part
of
the
interlocal
agreement,
but
to
invest
a
hundred
and
ninety
thousand
dollars.
We
are
projecting
a
ticket
increase
this
year.
If
that
was
11
and
10
cents.
On
average,
we
would
project
generating
65
000
of
income,
which
case
your
actual
out-of-pocket
costs
for
the
year
would
be
a
lower
next
year
than
this
year.
P
You
can
ask
mrs
mcdonald
about
this,
but
hillsborough
county
has
requested
fdot
to
join
into
this.
So
if
that
happens,
the
dollar
amount
will
go
less.
The
extraordinary
thing
about
the
cross
bay
ferry,
though,
is
that
you
know
how
you
do:
transportation
studies
and
cult
consultants
come
in
and
project
here's.
What
we
think
will
happen
and
it's
kind
of
a
guess.
P
P
P
P
The
other
thing
is
the
ferry
passengers
spend
a
lot
of
money
on
average
forty
dollars
a
person,
that's
a
lot
of
money,
so
they
come
here.
They
spend
money,
they
go
back
by
ferry,
here's
the
other
important
part.
The
theory
is
not
only
well,
it
is
both
a
transportation
option,
congestion
mitigation
asset,
but
it's
also
an
economic
generator.
P
P
P
We
are
so
very
happy
that
tampa
city
council
and
the
city
of
tampa
has
decided
to
invest
in
getting
this
project
going.
It's
incredible
that
hillsborough
county
is
providing
the
capital
money
for
the
studies
and
provided
the
1.2
million
dollars
capital
match
for
this
350
passenger
ferry.
By
the
way
I
do
want
to
emphasize
this
one
point
is
that
the
grant
that
we
were
awarded
will
provide
a
350
passenger
ferry
and
we're
running
149..
P
So
if
we
can
get
this
very
procured
in
place,
the
economic
impact
and
transportation
value
of
ferry
service
when
the
permanent
project
is
up
will
be
ten
times
what
it
is
now
and
that's
nothing
but
good
stuff.
In
our
view,
I
think
that's
it.
Mrs
mcdonald,
you
would
like
to
add
anything
or
join
me
up
here.
If
there's.
B
Any
questions
join
you
up
here.
If
there's
any
questions
and
and
to
be
clear,
the
grant
went
to
heart.
So
heart
is
the
agency
that
had
to
apply
for
the
grant
we
put
it
together,
but
heart
is
the
one
that
ultimately
will
be
going
through
the
process
of
procurement,
we're
working
with
them
closely
to
make
sure
that
you
know
any
anything
that
we
have
or
any
questions
that
they.
J
P
J
J
J
and
the
fairy
projection.
It
was
right
next
to
the
train
heading
from
salem
to
boston.
I
chose
to
train
because
it
was
faster
and,
I
think,
a
little
less
inexpensive,
but
the
rate
was
forty
dollars.
Nineteen
dollars
and
seventeen
dollars
seventeen
dollars.
If
you
live
a
residence
of
one
of
the
cities
that
it
went
to,
I
think
it
was
salem
19
if
you're
part
of
the
county
and
I
think
the
fee
to
travel.
J
the
the
city
or
the
components
of
each
wherever
it
started,
wherever
it
ended,
whether
it's
salem
or
boston
or
providence,
or
whatever
the
cost
of
their
endowment.
Two,
the
ferry
was
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
and
again
I'm
going
by
memory.
So
I
lost
my
hair,
but
my
memory
is
still
with
me
to
some
degree
and
again
I
can
get
those
figures
by
calling
in
the
newspaper.
J
So
what
I'm
seeing
is,
instead
of
having
rapid
bus
transit,
smaller
buses,
full
of
people,
what
we
have
is
big
buses
with
few
people
and
what
happens
to
that
is
your.
I
see
it.
You
say
why
I
want
to
ride
the
bus
nobody's
there,
so
it's
like
going
to
a
restaurant
having
a
great
meal
but
you're
the
only
one
eating.
Do
you
go
back?
J
Sometimes
you
do,
and
sometimes
you
don't,
but
that's
what
we
see.
Why
is
it
full?
I
would
rather
see
many
small
buses
in
hillsborough
county
and
in
the
city
of
tampa.
I
don't
even
appreciate
the
expressway
building
more
lanes.
Are
you
going
to
do
in
two
years
or
three
years
build
more
lanes
because
those
are
already
taken?
We
induce
travel
and
transportation
by
adding
more
something
that
you
don't
want.
That's
more
cars
and
more
traffic
in
the
city
in
hillsborough
county.
J
So
if
we
had
a
light
rail
system
of
some
sort
and
if
you
had
a
lot
of
little
buses
in
some
sort,
maybe-
and
I'm
not
saying
it
will-
but
maybe
it
would
be
better
off
but
yeah
we
invest
in
a
ferry
and
it
costs
and
started
out
like
I
forget
what
it
was:
250
thousand
dollars
each
government
there
was
four
or
five
enemies,
175
whatever
it
was,
and
and
sometimes
back
that
was
four
or
five
years
ago.
J
I
think-
and
I've
just
never
supported
this
in
a
way,
because
I'm
not
saying
your
figures
are
wrong,
but
I'm
just
saying
that
it
in
my
part,
a
lot
of
people
use
it
come
here.
They
drive
they
get
in
the
car
they
leave
and
get
paid
to
get
back
in
their
own
car
and
go
where
they
came
from.
Would
you
care
for
me
to
respond
just
a
second?
I'm?
Not
I'm
not
finished
yet
very
patiently.
Mr
tarantino,
I'm
patient,
but
I'm
just
saying
that
and
I'm
not
asking
for
anyone
to
think
like.
J
P
By
example,
four
fairies,
each
ferry
from
dill
south
kind
to
mcdill
each
fairy
one
ferry
carries
the
equivalent
of
16
buses.
Each
of
those
buses
would
require
an
80
operating
subsidy
and
the
capital
cost
of
those
buses
would
exceed
the
capital
cost
of
the
ferries
and
they're
stuck
in
traffic.
So
people
wouldn't
take
them.
P
The
advantage
of
fairy
transportation
is
the
right-of-way
is
free,
it's
congestion
proof
and
we
are
foolish
foolish
not
to
make
use
of
a
free
asset
known
as
the
water.
The
ferries
are
allowing
the
people
of
tampa
bay
to
connect
to
each
other
and,
unlike
a
light,
rail
vehicle
or
a
bus
way
or
anything
else.
If
there's
no
need
to
use
it
anymore,
you
can't
recover
the
cost
of
that
road.
You
can
have
a
bridge
to
nowhere.
P
You
can
have
a
rail
line
through
nowhere
and
the
ferries
you
actually
can
resell
for
a
higher
price
than
it
costs
to
buy
them.
So
this
is
exceptionally
low
cost
on
an
advertised
amortized
cost
per
mile.
The
capital
cost
of
this
ferry
system
is
less
than
the
resurfacing
cost
per
mile
on
state
route.
60..
Now
those
are
numbers-
and
those
are
absolute
facts.
J
And
then
what
you're
saying
is:
let's
keep
it
like.
It
was,
but
change
it
to
the
ferry.
However,
if
we
had
done
this
and
continue
to
do
this
and
change
the
way,
we
think
maybe
people
would
ride
the
bus,
maybe
with
people
more
buses,
more
quicker
service,
you
would
get
there.
So
then
you
also
mentioned
somewhere
in
that
debate,
not
a
debate
in
that
discussion
of
your
presentation,
both
of
you
that
the
amount
of
money
that's
going
to
be
brought
in
then
is
going
to
be
split
after
a
certain
amount.
Am
I
correct?
Yes,
sir?
J
J
J
There'll
be
no
sunshine,
very
little
the
people
around
it
it
just
to
me
it's
got
to
have
an
ending
sometime
and
please
go
back
to
the
salem
and
I'll
give
you
the
sale
newspaper
article
see
if
I'm
at
least
close
to
the
figures
that
I'm
saying
the
700
thousand
was
the
grant
money
that
was
given
for
the
money
that
they
charge
the
city
and
I
may
not
be
a
hundred
percent
there.
Yeah.
J
Yeah,
I
understand
that's
why
I'm
saying
now,
I'm
quoting
myself,
because
that
you
know
ten
years
ago
and
and
I
have
the
phone
number
of
the
newspaper,
you
can
get
all
the
articles
that
were
written
there
if
you
want
to
it,
makes
no
difference
to
me
but
to
see
what
was
happening
with
the
same
fairy.
I
believe
it's
the
same
thing.
J
P
J
J
P
They
run
from
boston
to
provincetown,
which
is
the
end
of
the
cape.
They
run
over
open
ocean,
a
75
75-mile
route.
There
is
a
separate
ferry
system
that
is
publicly
subsidized
that
runs
from
salem
to
boston
as
part
of
their
commuter
system.
This
is
a
privately
owned
vessel
that
we
charter
and
bring
about.
I
think
you're
running,
open
ocean
75
miles,
there's
going
to
be
a
different
rate
for
that.
P
J
P
M
Just
follow
to
my
colleague
you
know
tampa:
has
he
talked
about
rich,
getting
richer
and
poor
getting
poorer
tampa?
M
If
you
look
at
the
numbers
just
of
tampa
and
out
of
the
region
failed
completely
the
last
10
years,
the
middle
class
shrank
most
of
the
last
10
years
during
the
biggest
economic
boom
in
american
history,
poor
more
people
became
poor
and
yeah.
M
The
rich
got
richer,
and
I
in
tampa
anyway,
that's
because
of
specific
economic
policies
of
funding
projects
downtown
and
ignoring
neighborhoods,
especially
poor
neighborhoods,
creating
policies
that
that
profile,
people
based
on
race
and
also
having
economic
development
that
only
benefited
rich
people
and
is
not
equitable,
and
that's
why
I've
been
trying
to
get
reform
at
the
edc
and
change
completely
our
economic
development
policy,
but
the
the
thing
I
want
to
ask
you
was
transit
in
in
past
times
that
we've
talked
about
this,
I
think,
is
the
third
year
that's
come
up
for
us.
M
There's
been
some
criticism
about
how
this
is
a
terrorist
gimmick
and
not
a
real
mode
of
transportation.
Now,
can
you
explain
to
everybody
that
the
public,
especially
what
the
difference
is
between
having
two
two
boats
making
regular
headways
versus
versus
one,
and
I
think,
eventually,
you're
going
to
have
four?
But
what
you've
been
doing.
The
last
few
years
is
really
a
test
of
the
concept.
M
But
if
you're
able
to
have
two
two
boats
making
regular
headways,
then
it's
isn't
it
more
reliable
for
people
who
want
to
use
it
for
transit
or
other
modes
of.
P
We
run
32
trips
at
the
times
when
we
can
have
the
greatest
ridership
in
part,
because
governments
want
to
limit
the
amount
of
subsidy
they're
putting
in
here
and
have
the
greatest
economic
benefit
just
with
one
vessel
that
we
would
own.
With
this
grant
we'll
be
able
to
run
this
vessel
day
long
365
days
a
year,
because
we
can
use
our
own
crews,
we
can
we'll
hire
local,
we'll,
run
local
and
that's
going
to
give
us
more
mobility
choices.
P
P
P
Mr
chairman,
don't
know
if
you
remember
that
west
tampa
trip
to
a
raised
game
that
one
time
a
third
of
us
took
the
ferry
and
the
third
two-thirds
drove
only
the
people
that
took
the
ferry
got
to
the
first
pitch.
It's
just
reliability,
councilman
goods.
N
When
I
look
at
the
overall
picture
of
I
had
an
experience
once
I
took
about
60
kids
to
new
york,
new
jersey
play
a
ball
game,
you
know,
and
inner
city
kids,
so
of
course
they've
never
experienced
being
on
the
water.
N
N
N
N
It
takes
you
two
hours
to
get
to
some
place
if
I
had
a
job
working
in
south
county,
there's
no
bus
that
could
get
me
there,
so
I
can't
apply
for
that
job.
N
N
When
I
look
at
the
ferry
and
we
talk
about
south
county
when
I
look
at
south
county
there's
a
different
type
of
economic
impact
in
south
county.
So
my
question
is
we're
going
to
build
something
in
south
county
to
go
to
mcdill,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
find
out
who's
the
riders
and,
why
south
county
to
mcdill?
N
How
does
some
of
our
marginalized
communities
benefit
to
ride
the
ferry
and
the
overall
concept
of
this?
This
fair
issue
to
me
when
it
first
came
to
me.
I
believe
it
to
be
a
tourism
attraction
because
when
it
was
going
from,
you
say
tampa
to
the
ball
field
and
to
me
it's
tourists,
because
I
don't
know
too
many
hispanic
black
people
or
a
low
income
white
folks
that
are
getting
going
over
there
because
they
can't
afford
to
to
do
that.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
the
ridership
of
this
whole
program.
N
P
Yes,
sir,
so
the
mpo
did
a
study
of
all
potential
routes
that
fury
could
run
in
2011
and
2012..
P
Independent
consultant
did
that
and
I
identified
mcdill
as
if
you're
going
to
start
any
place
for
a
commuter
service.
This
was
the
place
to
start
it's
the
low
lying
fruit.
There's
eight
thousand
people
that
live
in
south
county
that
work
at
mcdill.
P
P
P
P
So
if
you
you're
a
mom-
and
you
want
to
take
four
kids
on
a
ferry
ride
back
and
forth,
it'll
cost
you
20
bucks
for
as
many
kids
you
want
to
take
with
you
and
and
people
do
that
and
remarkably,
they
do
it
from
all
walks
of
life.
It's
I've
been
the
theory
probably
30
times,
and
the
people
ride.
The
ferry
is
us.
They
look
like
us.
They
like
look
like
our
whole
community
and
they
love
it,
and
you
know
for
places
like
ybor
city
and
tampa
heights
and
around
downtown
it's
business
and
jobs.
N
Well
and
appreciate
you
being
honest
and
that's
when
we
talk
about
transparency
now
we
we
get
to
the
meat
of
who's.
Writing
it.
It's
a
benefit
for
most
of
our
military
people
do
live
in
south
county,
so
I
I
you
know
you
know
for
majority
of
them
do
so
that
that
would
be
a
benefit
for
them,
because
now
you
know
it's
a
shorter
trip
from
them
the
drive,
so
I
I
can
see
that
concept.
So
I
can
see
why
the
grants
and
things
like
that
are
coming
forward,
and
I
don't
have
an.
G
N
P
The
evening
and
weekend
service
60
to
70
percent
of
the
tampa,
passengers
live
in
the
city
of
tampa
and
live
in
the
urban
core,
from
seminole
heights
and
east
tampa
to
ebor
city
to
downtown
it's
clustered
within
a
three
mile
radius
and
within
the
downtowns
amazing.
The
people
who
live
in
around
it
walk
to
the
ferry,
they'll
drive
they
walk
or
they
ride
their
bicycle.
P
Ten
percent
of
our
patrons
get
there
by
bicycling
it's
it's
this
vision
we
always
had
of
having
this
transportation
system
that
works
for
everyone
that
you
can
get
to,
and
people
use
it's
it's
here
and
now
and
it's
not
a
consultant
study.
It's
not
something
from
any
other
city,
it's
here
and
now,
and
people
are
using
it
and
they're
loving.
Q
Thank
you,
sir,
and
thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
and
for
your.
I
know,
you're,
very
passionate
about
this,
and
congratulations
on
all
your
recent
success
on
the
ferry
our
success.
Yes,
sir.
Yes,
sir,
you
know
my,
I
I've
always
been
open
and
honest
about
the
ferry,
which
is
I've
always
had
a
conflict.
Q
I
guess,
if
you
will
a
lot
of
the
statements
you
make
on
it,
I
agree
with
which
is
it's
foolish,
to
not
use
our
waterways
as
a
mode
to
move
folks
around
etc,
particularly
when
the
need
is
so
compelling
and
great
and
and
whatnot.
I've
always
expressed
concerns,
however,
on
use
of
city
dollars,
particularly
for
the
ferry
cra
is,
is
potentially
another
thing
but
use
of
general
revenue
funds
for
the
ferry.
Q
I've
always
just
had
a
big
challenge
without
a
remember,
councilman
reddick
speaking
some
years
ago
and
councilman
goodes
has
also
spoken
on
this,
and
he
made
reference
to
it
right
now,
which
is
who
rides
the
ferry,
especially
who
do
we
advertise
the
ferry
to?
I
don't
know
if
anything
has
ever
been
done,
etc.
Q
If
it's,
you
know
what
what
parts
of
the
city
of
tampa
et
cetera,
are
advertised
to
not
saying
to
anybody
specifically
kept
out
or
anything,
but
in
other
words
you
know
is,
is
the
ferry
something
that's
going
to
be
realistically
accessible
to
all
of
our
city.
I
know
you
talked
about
things
like
kids,
under
five
being
allowed
to
go
for
free,
etc,
etc.
Just
certain
concerns
that
I've
had,
especially
whenever
it
comes
to
general
revenue
funds.
Cra
funds
are
potentially
another
different
issue.
Q
If
it
comes
from
downtown
cra,
I
I
use
a
different
analysis
on
that,
but
with
again
still
some
level
of
skepticism
I've
never
considered
myself
an
opponent
of
the
ferry
I've
never
considered
myself
a
strong
supporter
of
the
ferry.
You
know
just
somebody
who
looks
at
it
with
a
level
of
skepticism
and
goes
each
vote,
a
new
analysis
at
a
time.
So,
but
again
you
know
you.
Q
P
If,
mr
chairman,
if
I
may
address
the
specific
cra
point,
one
minute
rebuttal
and
that
rebuttal
just
the
the
principal
businesses
that
benefit
from
the
ferry
are
all
located
in
cras,
the
second
place
95
of
them
are-
and
you
know
it's
for
you
to
decide
how
cra
dollars
are
used.
P
I
don't
know
how
it
gets
much
better
than
that
now,
whether
you
use
general
revenues
or
cra
dollars
or
transportation
dollars.
Is
your
policy
point
but
make
no
mistake
about
this?
If
you
were
to
say
we
aren't
going
to
do
this
you're
going
to
hear
from
dozens
and
dozens
and
dozens
of
restaurants
saying
what
are
you
doing?
P
B
Right,
mr
mashing,
and
this
van
one
may
be
able
to
clarify
some
of
these
points,
but
just
since
we're
sitting
as
a
cra,
I
think
the
bulk
of
the
dollars
that
were
spent
last
year.
Our
contribution
to
this
came
out
of
this
downtown
cra.
It
was,
and
it
was
limited
to
this
downtown
cra
fund
just
to
make
that
clear
on
the
record
so
that
it's
not
all
the
other
cra
that
are
contributing
and
the
bulk
of
it's
coming
out
of
the
downtown
syria.
Is
that
correct
michelle
125
from
this.
G
B
M
Yeah,
what
two
two
other
points
one
is:
this
is
about
regional
cooperation,
which
we
have
been
in
short
supply
of
recently.
It
is
former
commissioners
been
one
of
the
leaders
on
regionalism.
So
thank
you
for
all
your
service
on
that,
but
the
other
member
governments
have
come
together
and
funded
this,
and
are
we
the
last
one
in
this.
P
Under
the
terms
of
the
interlocal
agreement,
you
have
to
actively
say
no
okay
you're
committed
to
fund
this,
as
all
the
others
already
already
committed
everyone's
entered
into
this
agreement,
and
it
would
take
an
affirmative
decision
by
you
not
to
fund
it.
So.
M
Anyway-
and
you
have
to
make
that
decision
by
june
1st
the
the
and
I
was
not
asking
a
contractual
question-
I
was
more
asking
like
the
commitment
of
the
region.
The
rest
of
the
region
has
come
together
and
the
first
person
that
really
stood
up
on
it,
for
it
originally
was
mayor
kreisman,
and
he
he
took
a
strong
leadership
position,
trying
to
bring
the
region
together
and
trying
to
build
cooperation.
You
know
the
more
we
understand
each
other,
the
better
we
all
get
along.
M
M
I
lived
on
dale
mabry,
near
mcdill
for
several
years
and
most
of
the
time
I
couldn't
get
in
and
out
of
out
of
my
condo,
because
the
mcdill
was
backed
up
for
a
long
time
and
you
can
see
when
there's
some
kind
of
operation
going
on
in
a
big
deal,
because
the
the
there
are
certain
times
of
day
when
they
are
changing
shifts.
And
then,
when
it's
not
at
that
right
time.
M
You
see
something
happening,
but
it
gets
backed
up
from
mcdill
all
the
way
past
past
candy,
all
north
and
because
people
are
trying
to
get
in
there
and
the
expressway
authority
has
tried
to
work
with
dod
to
get
a
special
gate.
But
they
haven't
done
that.
Yet
there
are
three
gates,
the
other
one
comes
by
where
I
live
now,
which
is
bay
shore,
the
southern
part
of
bayshore.
M
I
can't
get
onto
bay
shore
now
because
they're
backed
up
four
or
five
streets
trying
to
get
on
candy
from
bay
shore,
and
you
can
just
see
the
the
air
force
stickers
on
all
the
cars.
And
so,
if
you
can
take
major
traffic
off
the
roads
that
will
put
relief
on
us
from
having
to
spend
potentially
billions
of
dollars,
widening
dale,
mabry
or
building
an
extension
expressway
or
widening
the
gates
at
mcdill
or
whatever?
Can
you
just
tell
us
how
many,
how
many
car
trips
a
day
do
you
think
we'll
take
off.
P
We
can
take
about
2
000
cars
off
the
road
every
peak
hour
and
for
those
of
you
familiar
with
transportation,
that's
the
equivalent
of
a
full
lane
of
interstate
which
council
miranda
to
your
point.
If
you
had
to
build
it,
it
would
cost
1.2
billion
dollars.
So,
in
terms
of
this
providing
alternative
transportation
capacity,
it
works.
It's
two
ways:
you
solve
your
transportation
problems.
P
B
No,
I
I
know
that
you
weren't
talking
about
contractual
issue,
but
the
reason
that
it's
coming
up
at
this
time
is
that
you
all
requested
it
do.
But
we
do
look
at
this
in
april,
because
the
opt
out
time
and
it
would
have
to
be
a
positive
action
of
the
government
to
opt
out
would
be.
I
think,
sometime
in
june
june,.
B
Yeah,
so
that's
why
it's
been
brought
forward
at
this
point
in
time,
just
to
clarify
for
the
record
gotcha
woman,
her
talk,
I
just
had
a
quick
question
and
yes,
I
do
believe
that
adding
the
ferry
between
mcdill
and
south
county
would
help
alleviate
traffic
all
over
the
city.
B
One
of
the
things
she
brought
up,
though,
was
bicycle
riders
and
how
10
percent
ride
their
bike
to
the
ferry.
One
complaint
I
have
heard
is
that
there's
only
so
many
bike
spots
on
the
ferry
and
that
that
it
is
tricky
if
you
go
down
there
to
get
on
the
ferry
to
say,
go
over
to
st
pete
and
there
aren't
any
bike
spaces
left,
but
you
were
planning
on
biking
to
your
destination.
When
you
got
to
st
pete,
can
you
sure.
P
Of
course,
there's
about
16
spaces
for
bicyclists
and
then
on
the
front,
and
then
people
will
put
them
in
the
back.
The
design
of
this
boat
is
not
as
a
commuter
it's
a
design
for
running
between
boston
and
provincetown.
Where
you
take
30
minutes
to
load
people,
the
vessels
that
we
will
design
will
be
front
loading
with
bike
racks
up
front,
so
we
do
the
best
we
can.
P
We
had
to
increase
the
dwell
time
at
the
dock
in
tampa
for
from
15
minutes
to
30
minutes
on
weekends
because
of
bicycles
and
strollers,
getting
on
it,
just
it
loads
on
the
side
and
not
the
front.
So
it's
a
limitation
again
of
having
to
charter
a
vessel
that
isn't
necessarily
designed
for
this
specifically,
but
the
future
vessels
will
will
be,
and
you
talk
to
cyclists,
they'd
love
it
I
mean
you
go
down
there
any
weekend.
P
C
C
Mcdill
would
be
the
biggest
bang
for
the
buck
and
would
please
the
most
people
around
washington
dc.
You
have
the
beltway
military
personnel
get
free
passes
on
that
postwar.
We
are
not
smart
enough.
We
meaning
the
tampa
bay
area
is
not
smart
enough
to
give
our
military
personnel
free
passes.
Sun
passes
to
use
our
crosstown.
Excuse
me,
library,
tell
me
the
mcdill
would
move
the
most
people,
not
vehicles
people
and
would
also
free
up
our
streets
for
the
residents
on
our
own
streets.
We
would
have
a
win-win
situation
in
all
of
this.
C
G
Michelle
van
loan
community
redevelopment
department
item
number
three
is
a
response
to
councilman
fiora's
motion
on
the
accessibility
study
and
plan
by
the
parks
department
and
how
can
the
cras
potentially
partner
with
parks
and
rec,
to
help
speed
up
and
expedite
the
implementation
of
their
plan?
You
have
a
memo
from
sharisha
hills,
the
parks
director
explaining
the
master
study
that
they
did.
G
What
went
into
that,
how
they
prioritize
the
improvements
that
they
do
each
year,
based
on
the
funding
that
they
have
each
year
right
now
there
is
a
balance
of
a
little
over
three
million
dollars
on
their
list
for
parks
that
are
within
the
cras
and
what
we
would
do
is
she
has
divided
that
up
parks
has
divided
that
up.
We
have
it
in
detail
by
every
park.
G
What
are
the
recommended
items
also
sorted
by
what
are
improvements,
removal
of
barriers,
adding
accessibility
and
the
flip
side
of
actually
also
increasing,
inclusive
and
interactive
play
equipment
at
each
of
the
parks,
and
so
we
would
work
with
each
of
our
cacs
and
bring
the
respective
costs
and
improvements
to
allow
the
cacs
to
then
work
on
what
their
respective
budgets
can
handle
and
to
what
degree
they
can
help
expedite
that.
Q
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
for
your
memo
and
all
your
work.
You
know
the
the
reason
I
did
this.
Among
other
reasons,
is
you
know
that
we
cras
a
lot
of
times
most
of
the
time
deal
with
incomes
that
are
lower
income,
blighted,
ignored,
marginalized,
and
you
know,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
neighborhood
parks
and
a
lot
of
city
parks
that
need
accessibility
where
lower
income,
folks
live
and
every
day
working
people
live,
and
I
think
this
is
a
very
wise
use
of
cra
dollars.
Q
It
will
increase
traffic
to
these
neighborhoods.
It
will
make
these
families
raising
children
with
disabilities
feel
that
they're
involved
and
that
they're
affirmed
and
and
it'll
put
the
cra
on
the
side
of
economic
development
for
people
with
disabilities.
Q
I
I
think
this
is
very
important
and
I
think
that
if
the
cra
can
help
cut
down
that
significant
multi-million
dollar
deficit,
that
it's
a
wise
use
of
cra
dollars
and
whatnot,
so
I'll
be
making
a
motion
on
that.
Q
If
I
will,
if
I
may,
and
what
not
with
for
this
to
come
back
to
us,
say
in
maybe
six
months
or
so
we
can
talk
about
that
and
then
with
annual
reporting
on
this,
because
I
do
think
this
should
be
a
priority
for
our
cra,
which
is
making
sure
that
our
parks
have
accessibility
for
people
with
disabilities
and
and
what
not
it'll
get
more
people
to
our
parks.
It'll
help
you
can
better
economically
develop
blighted
areas.
Q
G
G
So
central
park
comes
in
as
the
when
we
rank
them,
the
one
with
the
third
highest
budget
at
268,
and
they
only
have
a
few
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
east
tampa
because
there
are
so
many
parks
because
of
the
size
it's
at
one
and
a
half
million
great.
But
the
vast
majority
of
that
is
for
upgrading
the
actual
play
equipment
itself.
Q
Q
G
For
our
budget,
when
we
come
to
you
in
the
summer
with
our
budget
presentation,
like
I
do
with
the
housing,
we
can
also
call
out
so
that
you
see
for
each
of
the
budgets
how
much
was
put
in
there
under
the
neighborhood
infrastructure
for
any
of
the
park
projects,
so
that
you
know
what
that
is.
Cosmo
and
miranda.
J
Thank
you
chairman.
I
I
just
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
mr
vieira
for
making
sure
that
these
things
for
disabled
kids
and
that
they
they
have
a
ability
to
do
something
and
feel
good
about
themselves.
It's
all
of
us
and
in
every
park,
every
dollar
that
this
city
spends
and
I
think,
we're
doing
a
pretty
good
job
and
especially
sharisha
hills.
The
way
she's
addressing
these
things
every
no
matter
whether
you
live
in
the
city,
east,
west,
north
and
south,
no
matter
what
the
income
level
is,
no
matter
what
color
you
are.
J
J
Q
Please,
and
I
and
I
and
again,
if
anybody
that
this
is
a
draft,
so
to
speak,
if
anybody
has
any
suggestions,
etc,
I
motioned
to
staff
to
dedicate
funds
and
and
michelle
should
we
give
you
a
specific
monetary
amount.
I
know
you
said:
there's
a
three
million
dollar
deficit.
Should
we
look
up
to
a
certain
number
up
to
half
a
million,
a
million
would
that
be
to
have
more
specificity
in
the
motion
or.
G
Because
it's
across
various
cras-
I
just
how
that
would
play
out,
but
I
I
will
promise
that
our
managers
will
work
to
look
within
their
budgets
like,
for
example,
ebor
has
been
paying
for
their
two
big
projects,
so
they
may
be
a
little
bit
more
limited
next
year,
but
they
only
have
a
couple
of
items.
So
we
just
have
to
look,
and
many
of
them
on
the
smaller
side
will
be
able
to
knock
them
out
in
one
year.
Q
Great
and
so
so
then
my
motion
would
be
to
ask
staff
to
look
at
dedicating
funds
with,
obviously
the
cooperation
of
our
cacs
etc,
getting
their
input
etc.
On
making
our
cra
parks
accessible
with
accessible
equipment
for
children
in
person
with
special
needs
and
disabilities.
I
motioned
that
this
returns
to
us,
let's
say
in
october,
is
that
does
that
give
you
enough
time.
Q
In
the
bible,
well,
let's,
let's
have
it
come
back
to
us,
then
in
august,
why
the
heck
not-
and
then
you
know
and
at
that
time
I'll
do
on
annual
reporting
I'll
do
that
in
august.
But
that's
my
motion
motion.
M
Yeah
I
just
want
to
thank
also
thank
councilmember
vieira
for
bringing
this
up
and
staying
on
top
of
this
issue.
It's
it's
nice.
We
all
have
our
areas
of
expertise,
and
we
can
always
rely
on
councilman
vera
to
to
be
a
champion
for
accessibility.
I
think
it's
three
things
about
this.
One
is
it's
incredibly
important
that
we're
inclusive
that
we
that
our
our
parks
and
public
facilities
are
accessible
to
everyone?
M
Number
two
is
that
the
online
reputation
of
our
community
in
communities
around
the
world
is
partly
defined
by
accessibility
and
if
we're
not
accessible
to
everyone,
including
visitors,
then
then
it
will
hurt
our
reputation,
economic
development,
and
the
third
thing
is
that
the
great
thing
about
this,
although
the
cra
money
has
to
be
spent
in
cra
districts,
these
parks
are
accessible
by
people
throughout
the
city,
and
so
people
like
to
change
things
up
and
go
to
parks
that
are
not
in
their
neighborhood.
M
G
L
G
C
I
I
Wonderful
all
right
so,
as
I
mentioned,
I'm
a
board
member
and
a
volunteer
with
friends
of
tampa
union
station,
we're
a
non-profit,
all
volunteer
group,
and
we
have
been
working
with
the
city
of
tampa
staff,
the
cra
staff
and
the
facilities
department
staff,
among
others
on
future
plans
for
champion
union
station.
I
A
brief
history
champion
station
is
one
of
tampa's
front
doors.
The
second
screen
shows
some
present
conditions.
It's
also
used
for
community
events.
It
is
also
the
third
busiest
amtrak
station
in
the
state
believe
it
or
not.
Covet
has
set
it
back
a
little
bit,
but
it's
it's
an
important
transportation
facility,
not
only
for
now,
but
for
the
future
as
well.
I
On
this
third
slide,
you
can
see
that
the
the
windows
that
were
installed
during
the
1998
restoration,
which
was
done
by
a
non-profit
group,
called
championing
station
preservation
and
redevelopment
as
part
of
a
broader
community
effort.
I
The
windows
from
the
90s
are
failing
and,
as
the
fourth
side
indicates,
we
also
have
some
rainwater
leaks
that
have
largely
been
corrected
inside
the
main
waiting
room
for
the
station.
However,
the
damage
that
the
rainwater
did
still
requires
correction,
as
the
next
slide
indicates.
We
have
some
additional
problems
as
well.
The
building
city
of
tampa
owned
and
managed,
and
the
facilities
department
does
a
great
job
of
dealing
with
110
year
old
building,
but
it's
a
110
year
old
building.
I
I
The
next
slide
is
a
high
level
outline
of
the
path
forward
and,
of
course,
we
realize
we
have
some
issues
that
need
to
be
addressed
right
now.
Obviously,
the
termite
infestation
we're
working
with
the
city
of
tampa
staff
to
address
these
immediate
concerns,
utilizing
the
1.1
million
dollars
in
cra
funds
that
we
were
so
fortunate
to
receive
from
the
cra.
I
I
These
are
people
that
are
from
all
walks
of
life
with
a
varying
backgrounds
and
talents
like
real
estate,
and
you
have
an
architect
on
board
and
that
we're
just
a
great
group
of
people
we're
going
to
all
work
together
to
develop
a
strategic
master
plan
for
the
station
and,
at
the
same
time,
we're
going
to
see
new
sources
of
recurring
revenue
for
tampinian
station,
so
the
building
can
continue
to
function
and
help
pay
for
some
of
its
own
upkeep
in
the
future.
I
The
next
slide
here
at
high
level,
2.5
million
dollars,
essentially
is
needed
for
the
repairs
and
restoration
of
the
station.
That's
an
estimate
done
by
the
city
of
tampa
staff.
Now,
of
course,
we
all
know
that
construction
pricing
keeps
escalating
right
now
and
it's
it's
it's
beyond
our
control.
So
it's
important
to
emphasize
that's
march.
22
figures
funds
are
currently
available,
as
I
mentioned,
1.1
million
in
the
cras
funds
that
were
provided
to
the
project.
We
also
have
25
thousand
dollars
in
private
donations.
I
That's
both
from
there's
an
endowment
fund
for
the
community
found
at
the
community
foundation
for
the
station
that
we
established.
That's
that's
some
of
the
income
from
that
fund,
as
well
as
special
events,
rental
receipts
that
the
city
has
received
so
on
the
city's
books.
Right
now
is
the
sum
of
the
1.1
plus
the
25..
I
We
also
intend
to
seek
one
million
dollars
from
the
federal
railroad
administration,
which
is
part
of
usdot
the
money
that
basically
came
out
of
the
infrastructure
package
that
was
passed
by
congress.
There
are
no
assurances
that
we'll
get
these
grants,
but
we're
going
to
give
it
our
our
best.
We
also
intend
to
seek
private
donations.
Community
foundation
grants
grants
from
other
local
foundations
as
well.
I
The
next
slide
discusses
what
we
intend
to
do
with
that
master
plan.
We're
going
to
look
at
enhancements
to
the
station
again.
It
is
a
very
active
train
station
and
that
uses
first
and
foremost
and
will
continue,
but
there
are
spaces
in
the
building
that
are
not
utilized.
I
There
are
also
uses
that
may
be
coming
down
down
the
pike
in
the
future.
We
think
the
great
addition
will
be
a
destination
coffee
shop,
the
building's
not
currently
equipped
for
that
it
could
be
in
the
future.
Business
workspaces
may
be
made
available,
obviously,
for
community
events.
Things
of
that
nature-
you
know
startups.
I
There
are
a
lot
of.
There
are
a
lot
of
things
that
could
be
done
in
some
of
the
unused
spaces
in
the
building.
We
also
seek
to
find
at
least
paying
tenants
for
some
of
the
unused
spaces
in
the
building
as
well.
Historical
recognition
is
also
very
large
on
our
agenda.
I
There's
been
a
proposal,
as
you
all
know,
to
do
a
a
statue
that
reflects
the
the
very
long
and
important
history
the
station
has
played
in
tampa
families.
There
are
plenty
of
veterans
that
left
and
came
back
via
tempe
union
station
right
through
the
vietnam
era.
We
have
it
documented
and,
of
course,
some
of
those
folks
didn't
make
it
back.
So
it's
a
really
powerful
story
that
we
want
to
tell
and
there's
additional
stories
of
the
station
that
we
want
to
tell
as
well
again.
I
Passenger
rail
service
needs
first
and
foremost,
as
this
station
continues
to
be
tampa's
railroad
station
and
amtrak
intends
to
be
there
for
many
years
to
come.
These
additional
uses
will
require
additional
funding,
of
course,
and
will
identify
those
funding
needs
in
the
master
plan.
I
The
baggage
building
part
of
the
1912
structure
of
the
station
was
basically
in
need
of
some
attention.
We
had
rotting
windows,
the
building
wasn't
protected
with
fire
sprinklers.
It's
not
air
conditioned.
It
was
a
basically
unusable.
Although
our
group
has
set
up
a
model,
train
displays
in
the
station
in
the
baggage
building
during
train
day
every
year,
so
we
work
to
get
some
funds
and
to
actually
outfit
the
the
building
with
fire.
Sprinklers
air
conditioning
replaced
the
windows
and
our
budget
was
190
thousand
dollars.
I
That
was
volunteer
time
gerald
mccancer
architecture
he's
on
our
board
donating
his
time.
We
got
donations.
My
father
left
us
some
money.
I
I
got
some
foundation
grants
and
importantly,
we
we
have
a
historic
preservation
grant
from
hillsborough
county
as
well,
thanks
to
some
supply
chain
issues
that
that
the
timeline
on
that
project
has
been
extended
a
little
bit,
but
we're
looking
to
completion
in
may
2022
and
celebrating
that
progress
in
summer
2022
and
the
following
slide
shows
some
of
the
work
that's
been
done
inside
the
baggage
building
the
new
windows,
the
rehab
doors.
I
We
even
found
a
use
for
some
old
city
of
tampa
street
pavers
the
brick
floor
of
the
building
needed
some
additional
break
by
the
way
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen,
you
see
a
shot
of
that
building
with
delivery
drivers
and
from
1922
that's
over
at
the
public
library.
Now
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have
regarding
this
presentation
or
the
station
generally.
M
Yeah,
thank
you
and
I
first
I
want
to
thank
jackson.
I
don't
know
if
you
all
can
tell,
but
he
actually
lives
in
atlanta
now
and
he
works
for
the
atlanta
history
museum,
so
we're
we're
lucky
that
he
still
has
a
passion
for
that.
This
and
part
of
the
reason
is
his
dad
led
the
effort
back
in
the
90s
and
what
he
kind
of
alluded
to
just
to
clarify
is
that
the
non-profit
that
he
and
his
dad
ran
in
the
90s
actually
took
control
of
the
this
property
from
csx.
M
And
then,
when
de
greco
was
mayor
in
the
90s,
he
asked
that
it
be
transferred
to
the
city,
so
they
actually
ran
the
whole
thing
before
it
went
to
the
city
and
they
were
responsible
for
restoring
and
then
his
dad
passed
away
last
year.
I
think
it
was
and
left
some
money
which
he
alluded
to
as
well.
So
thank
you
to
them,
plus
all
the
other
volunteers
there.
You
all
know
that
this
is
a
important
historic
building.
It's
a
building
owned
by
the
city.
M
It
has
space,
that's
being
underutilized
that
we
could
use
it's
important
for
transportation
and
in
the
future,
as
we
continue
to
be
more
dense,
there
will
be
more
uses
for
this,
hopefully
and
amtrak,
or
whatever
other
providers
will
be
there.
The
other
thing
is
that
if
you
look
at
what's
happening
spatially
around
the
region,
I've
spoken
to
the
encore
people.
I've
spoken
to
the
gas
works.
People
spoken
to
the
channel
district
people
for
people
like
andy
scaglioni,
who's
right
up
against
the
crosstown,
sorry
salman.
M
That's
happening
there
and
all
those
big
players
are
really
excited
about
this
building
being
preserved
for
it,
continuing
as
a
transportation
hub
and,
more
importantly,
for
being
a
business
incubator,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
continue
with
that
because
from
from
downtown
east
and
north,
we
don't
have
enough
coffee
shops
where
young
entrepreneurs
or
entrepreneurs
of
any
kind
can
go
and
and
and
set
up
a
laptop
and
start
a
business
or
get
supported
with
business.
Incubator
organizations
like
tampa,
wave
and
others
would
love
to
rent
this
from
us.
M
I'm
sure
oxford
and
others
would
love
to
do
that.
It's
a
way
to
for
the
city
to
generate
money
and
and
income
and
traffic.
When
people
arrive
on
the
train,
do
we
want
the
first
impression
to
be
a
rundown
building,
or
do
we
want
it
to
be
a
beautiful
building,
that's
beautifully
restored
with
entrepreneurs
working
in
it
and
that's
what
other
cities
like
denver
have.
M
Also.
This
is
across
the
street
from
the
jackson
house,
which
we've
also
put
money
in
our
budget,
to
save
the
the
the
importance
of
the
jackson
house
and
where
it
is,
I
believe,
is
not
the
people
that
stayed
there.
M
It
is
that
it's
it
tells
my
kids
and
others
the
story
of
segregation
that,
when
african
americans,
even
famous
ones
that
were
on
their
way
to
cuba
by
steamship
when
they
ride
in
tampa,
they
could
only
stay
in
two
places
and
one
was
the
jackson
house
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
keep
that
story
alive
to
make
sure
that
we
that
we
don't
have
policies
like
that
in
the
future.
He
mentioned
world
war
ii.
That's
an
important
thing.
Also.
M
Can
my
question
to
you
jackson
is:
are
you
satisfied
with
this,
with
the
status
of
where
we
are
right
now
and
and
how
soon
do
you
think
we
can
address
the
the
incubator
opportunity
and
also
the
world
war
ii
statue?
Where
do
they
stand.
I
I'm
very
satisfied
with
where
we
are
on
the
progress
the
city
staff
has
been
really
responsive
to
work
with.
We
are
we.
It
is
incumbent
upon
all
of
us
to
get
a
master
plan
together
and
we're
going
to
start
right
now
and
the
facility
staff
can
currently
what,
as
I
mentioned,
they've
got
to
address
some
issues
with
the
building,
so
we're
rolling
and
we
look
forward
to
you
know
coming
back
to
you
all
with
the
with
the
with
an
update
soon.
M
Two
two
other
quick
things:
two
threats
to
this
facility:
one
is
that
I've
heard
when
that
that
that
there's
been
talk
inside
the
city
about
moving
the
greyhound
station
to
this
station.
There's
no
synergy
whatsoever
with
the
train
station
and
it
wouldn't
make
sense
to
do
that.
It
should
be
along
the
marion
street
corridor
or
somewhere
closer
to
their
to
our
bus
services.
Not
not
there
greyhound
is
a
competitor
to
or
long
distance
buses
are
competitor
to
to
the
rail
it
does.
M
It
wouldn't
make
sense
to
put
that
there.
So,
if
you
hear
of
that
happening,
please
oppose
it.
Maybe
at
some
point
we'll
have
to
vote
on
that.
M
The
the
second
thing
is
that
the
expressway
authority
is
looking
at
different
alternatives
to
put
a
new
ramp
somewhere
there
and
there's
a
piece
of
grass
right
in
front
of
tampa
union
station,
which
could
be
a
place
for
public
art
or
some
kind
of
public
purpose.
But
if
if
the
expressway
authority
puts
a
ramp
on
that,
you
won't
be
able
to
see
tia
union
station
anymore
and
you
won't
be
able
to
see
jackson
house,
it
could
and
it
won't
be
good
for
the
the
flow
and
the
connectivity
between
channel
district
and
gasworks
and
ebork.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
I
think
councilman
carlson
touched
on
almost
everything
that
I
wanted
to
say.
You
know
in
regards
to
segregation
and
the
history
of
that
you
know
the
jackson
house
still
exists,
the
union
station
exists,
but
there
was
a
hotel
that
no
longer
exists
that
was
demolished.
I
don't
know
10
15
years
ago,
maybe
more.
I
think
it
was
union
station,
hotel
or
union
hotel.
It's
a
parking
lot.
D
Now,
if
you
look
at
the
movie
the
punisher,
I
think
they
show
it
in
there,
but
it
was
a
white
only
hotel
and
then
for
those
that
couldn't
stay
there.
They'd
stay
at
the
jackson
house,
but
this
structure
and
its
architecture
there's
a
limited
amount
that
still
exists
in
the
city
of
tampa
beyond
ebor
city
and
those
historic
buildings
are
downtown
west
tampa,
which
is
that
howard
main
street
corridor.
D
I
think
we
have
to
protect
this
building
at
at
all
costs
for
students
of
architecture,
people
that
admire
that
time
period,
the
history
behind
segregation
and
whatnot
again,
it's
you
know,
people
that
arrive
here
by
train.
This
is
going
to
be
their
first
impression
beyond
what
they
see
in
the
channel
district
in
downtown
and
ybor
city.
You
know
they
get
here
and
you
want
to.
D
You
want
to
have
a
nicely
maintained
facility
and
you
also
want
to
use
it
to
the
maximum
capability,
whether
it
be
you
know,
a
hub
for
entrepreneurs
or
a
coffee
shop
or
whatever
it
is,
but
keep
that
building
alive.
D
We've
seen
so
many
buildings,
you
know,
look
at
armatures,
armature
works
was
an
empty
warehouse
for
years
and
look
at
what
it's
become
and
it's
growing
and
that
whole
areas
are
growing
around
that.
So
this
is
a
very
significant
structure
in
our
history.
I
know
under
the
greco
administration,
the
90s,
they
tried
to
restore
it
and
bring
it
back
as
much
as
they
could.
But
you
see
water
intrusion
through
the
windows
through
leaks
through
the
ceiling
and
whatnot.
That's
our
biggest
enemy
here,
tropical
climate,
humidity,
water
and
these
buildings
need
that
constant
maintenance.
D
We
see
that
again
with
tampa
theater
needs
constant
maintenance
in
ybor
city,
our
social
clubs,
central
estudiano
and
the
italian
club
and
all
that
stuff.
So
this
fits
into
that
because
it's
of
that
same
era,
so
I'm
glad
councilman
carlson
brought
this
up
and
that's
it
thanks.
C
Councilman
miranda,
sorry,
you
can
call
me
a
minuscule.
J
I
start
no,
I'm
thinking
there's
no
problem.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
You
know.
I
really
appreciate
what
mr
carlson
is
doing
here.
I.
J
A
kid
one
of
the
things
I
remember
as
being
a
kid
was
everybody
liked
trains.
Everybody
had
a
little
choo-choo
train
at
the
house.
Why
we
didn't
have
anything
to
do,
but
it
was
very
little
money,
so
they
take
it
to
the
train
station
to
see
the
champion
and
the
silver
meter
come
in
and
leave,
and
that
was
a
big
thrill
to
all
of
us
and
all
of
a
sudden
I
was
about
nine
years
old
and
they
brought
a
special
train
in
to
show
us-
and
I
forget
the
name
of
the
train.
J
It
was
the
one
that
was
like
a
double
decker.
It
was
all
glass
on
top
and
it
was
beautiful
that
you
come
in
and
walk
and
those
are
the
things
that
I
remember
growing
up
in
ybor
city,
because
there
was
not
much
to
do.
I
was
gonna,
go
to
the
rich,
theater
and
and
things
of
that
nature
and
cascading
park
to
play,
but
it's
this
was
done
under
the
great
court
administration.
As
mr
miniskalco
said,
I
was
a
I
was
there
and
he
mentioned
the
tampa
theater.
J
The
campaign
was
saved
on
a
4-3
vote
for
90
000.
For
restoration
four
to
three-
and
I
appreciate
being
one
of
the
four
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
believe
in
saving
things
that
mean
a
lot
not
only
for
the
yesterday,
but
today
and
for
tomorrow
and
trains
will
always
be
a
part
of
america
one
way
or
the
other
and
the
way
they
are
now
the
way
they're
getting
better.
Maybe
they'll
be
here
for
many
hundreds
of
years
to
come.
J
Q
Vera,
thank
you,
sir.
I
also
wanted
to
thank
councilman
carlson
for
this.
You
had
me
at
gary
mourinho
so
that
when,
when
you
mentioned
dr
romino
who's
such
a
great
guy,
you
know
and
another
thing
I
also
wanted
to
point
out.
I
always
think,
as
an
attorney,
I
was
trying
to
look
it
up.
Q
How
far
the
george
edgecombe
courthouse
is
from
this
there's
a
lot
of
young
attorneys
who
who
go
to
court,
and
you
have
a
lot
of
young
public
defenders
and
state
attorneys
who
are
there
and
this
isn't
that
far
away
and
if
they
need
somewhere
to
prepare
or
cram,
if
you
will
for
court,
you
know
this
could,
in
the
future,
provide
a
really
good,
viable
place
for
them
to
go
and
and
and
whatnot.
So
I
would
say,
on
top
of
the
jackson
house,
you
know
george
edgecombe
perspectively.
Q
I
got
to
see
how
far
away
it
is.
I
don't
think
it's
that
far
is
a
is
a
good
resource
for
that.
So
you
know
100
percent
supportive
of
this.
I
think
this
is
a
a
marvelous
endeavor
for
us
to
take
and
that
we
should
go.
You
know
rapidly
and
aggressively
on
this,
and
this
is
a
a
great
thing.
So
thank
you.
Q
N
N
B
Of
what
is
needed
right
now,
the
immediate
needs
of
that
building.
There's
a
feeling
you
get
when
you
walk
into
that
building
and
we
do
need
to
preserve
it
and
that
1.1
million
we
looked
at
what
are
the
top
two
things
we
need
to
do
and
it's
the
termite
we
need
to
tent
it.
We
need
to
protect
it
from
that
and
windows
and
doors
behind
that,
and
that's
going
to
take
up
a
good
chunk
of
that.
B
1.1
million
simultaneously
they'll
be
applying
for
grants
and
we'll
look
to
what
needs
to
be
done
next,
but
the
reality
is
between
the
grants
and
the
supply
chain
issues
we're
looking
at
the
end
of
2024
the
beginning
of
2025..
We
want
to
minimize
our
impact
to
amtrak
and
keep
the
station
going.
While
we
do
all
this
work.
So
that's
where
we
are
we're
committed
to
the
project
and
I'm
excited-
and
I
thank
you
councilman
carlson,
for
bringing
this
up
and
for
you
know,
and
for
the
team
working
together.
M
Councilman
carlson
yeah,
thank
you
adrie,
and
also
thank
you
to
chief
of
staff
for
being
involved
in
this
too,
because
this
involves
multiple
departments,
not
just
one.
It's
an
important
project.
Could
I
make
a
motion
to
bring
this
back
in
in
the
october
meeting
just
so
we
can
get
another
update.
C
R
C
R
L
M
Q
Salute
councilwoman
hertag
for
wonderful,
your
your
handwriting
is
by
far
and
the
best
I
don't
know.
If
you
all
noticed
that.
B
And
you
know
why
again,
I'm
I'm
a
former
elementary
school
teacher,
so.
B
A
K
G
I'll
skip
around
to
the
easiest
ones
that
are
so
number
eight
is
a
facade
grant
in
west
tampa
it's
this
wonderful
old,
historic
building
right
there
on
armenia.
G
I'm
sorry
you're
right.
Sorry
number
eight
is
the
schedule
for
the
cra
meetings,
we're
asking
you
to
formally
adopt
your
meeting
schedule
for
the
rest
of
the
year
and
we
will
then
be
able
to
turn
around
per
state
statute
and
advertise
as
required
and
we'll
do
it
in
a
quarterly
or
six-month
basis.
So.
C
G
O
G
To
the
vasa
grants
being
first
so
number
nine
is
your
vasagrant
for
west
tampa.
It
is
on
2501,
north
armenia
and
again
it's
a
wonderful
corner.
Little
older
building,
that's
been
city
vacant
and
this
facade
grant
will
help
it
address
some
of
the
dilapidation
of
the
brickwork
and
so
forth.
D
G
D
M
R
Good
morning
again,
this
is
the
cra
board.
Cedric
mcrae's
tampa
cra
manager.
As
I
stated
briefly
a
show
a
few
moments
ago.
There
were
some
concerns
that
were
expressed
from
some
members
of
the
cac,
as
it
relates
to
progress
in
east
tampa
and
programming
just
here
to
provide
some
updates
on
those
items
that
were
brought
to
your
attention.
On
january
20
of
2022,
we
have
a
owner-occupied
rehabilitation
program
that
has
been
submitted
to
purchasing.
R
That
program
currently
now
has
been
is
under
review
and
pre-proposal
date
will
be
set
by
purchasing
once
the
rfp
package
is
complete.
We
have
almost
weekly
conversations
with
the
representative
in
purchasing
either
myself
or
our
new
staff
member
ms
vanessa
ross,
and
that
program
was
designed
to
help
low
and
moderate
income.
R
Families
with
any
type
of
interior
or
exterior
improvements
to
the
property
program
was
developed
in
last
summer,
probably
right
right
before
my
arrival,
and
there
were
some
conversations
and
tweaks
to
the
program
in
the
latter
part
of
november
december,
and
then
it
was
submitted
again
to
purchasing
in
january.
So
we
should
have
something
here
in
very
short
order
and
it
will
be
out
and
advertise
councilman
goods.
N
What's
the
short
order,
I
mean,
we've
been
hearing,
we've
been
hearing
and
hearing
the
process
we've
been
hearing
here.
Yes,
sir,
I
mean
I
mean,
there's
got
to
be
some
kind
of
endpoint
a
date.
I
mean
it's
been
there
a
while
now
I
mean
so
we
this
this
body
needs
to
know.
When
is
it
going
to
be
complete
and
the
community
wants
to
know,
because
this
is
a
very,
very
important
component,
especially
with
our
housing
crisis
situation.
So
I
just
don't
understand
what
is
the
holdup.
R
N
I'm
hopeful
too,
because
housing
is
a
situation
right
now
and
you
could
you
drive
through
the
east
side
of
town
with
this
should
be
a
top
priority
for
for
the
east
side
of
town.
I
and
again
I
don't
understand
I-
I
see
the
frustration
of
the
community
and
the
cec,
because
it's
my
frustration
too,
that
this
should
have
been
completed
a
long
time
ago.
So
I'm
hoping
to
get
a
definitive
answer
soon,
because
the
community
is
really
begging
for
this
program.
M
We've
heard
a
lot
of
complaints,
especially
from
east
hampton,
as
I've
said,
we've
had
three
different
chairs,
who
didn't
always
agree
with
each
other,
and
we've
had
lots
of
complaints.
I
would
just
remind
my
colleagues
and
the
public
that
the
cra
is
a
separate
organization.
It's
not
a
part
of
the
city.
The
relationship
with
the
city
is
that
we
have
an
outsource
agreement
to
the
city
and
we
have
our
own
staff.
M
If
we're
not
getting
the
performance
we
want,
we
have
to
include
that
in
our
renewal
requirements
for
the
outsource
agreement-
and
we
have
to
we
have
to
file
our
protests
about
that,
because
it
seems
like
not
to
bring
up
subjects
in
the
media,
but
it
just
seems
like
some.
Some
things
are
not
prioritized
and
and
certain
proposals
by
certain
people
are
prioritized-
and
this
is
not
something
for
for
any
particular
person
on
this
board.
It's
something
for
the
community.
M
The
community's
been
has
been
asking
for
and
if
city
staff
aren't
willing
to
move
forward,
what
I
think
we
should
do
is
for
sure
included
in
our
in
a
review
of
the
contract
with
the
city,
but
we
also
should
look
at
outsourcing.
You
know
why.
Why
do
if
it's
something
where
we
don't
need
all
of
it
or
part
of
it,
to
go
through
the
city,
let's
outsource,
to
somebody
else,
we
can
do
that.
We
have
the
right
to
do
it.
M
B
M
Understand
that,
but
we
can
hire
our
own,
I
mean
the
argument
is
always
well.
The
city
gives
us
free
services
and
legal
and
other
things,
but
that's
how
we're
bound
to
this
and
we
don't
get
progress
when
we
started
there
was
a
huge
budget
in
the
east,
tampa
crc
the
cac
that
should
have
been
or
district
that
should
have
been
spent,
and
now
there's
still
more
than
a
million.
M
The
last
time
we
heard
the
update,
that's
in
that
district
and
in
an
area
that
needs
money
for
lots
of
things
it
shouldn't
be
held
up,
and
if
it's
the,
if
it's
that
part
of
our
outsource
agreement,
that
the
city
staff
cannot
handle
it
because
they're
working
on
the
mayor's
priorities,
then
we
need
to
hire
our
own
staff
to
do
it.
And
somehow
we
need
to
move
this
forward,
because
our
economic
numbers
are
are
are
always
going
to
be
bad.
M
They've
been
bad
for
11
years
now,
we
did
not
successfully
compare
to
other
cities
pull
out
of
the
great
recession,
because
we
didn't
address
these
issues
and
and
when
we're
going
to
get
blamed
for
it,
this
mayor's
going
to
get
a
blame
for
it,
because
the
public
doesn't
see
the
difference,
and
since
we
have
a
hundred
percent
power,
but
we
also
have
a
hundred
percent
responsibility
on
this.
We've
got
it.
The
buck
stops
with
us.
We've
got
to
make
sure
that
it
gets
done.
However,
it
gets
done.
M
I
would
just
ask
that
the
executive
director
and
my
fellow
board
members
to
think
about
how
do
we
expedite
these
things,
because
it's
not
acceptable
that
the
public
has
to
come
here
every
week.
Asking
us
why
we're
not
doing
things
we've
got
good
ideas
pushing
forward,
but
for
some
reason
they
can't
get
done
and
we've
added
staff
to
try
to
get
it
done,
but
as
city
staff
won't
work
with
us
and
they're
not
necessary,
let's
outsource
to
somebody
else.
Thank
you.
R
Next
slide,
there
was
a
request
that
the
agendas
and
items
be
submitted
five
days
in
advance.
I
can
tell
you
probably
within
the
last
six
months,
we
have
been
sending
agenda
items
out
through
various
means
within
seven
days.
R
More
than
likely,
there
is
some
conversations
that
go
between
the
chair
and
myself
as
it
relates
to
the
agenda
and
formatting,
but
for
a
great
majority
of
the
time
we
have
we've
gotten
those
agenda
items
out
well
within
seven
days
to
allow
the
cac
members
and
the
members
of
the
community
attending
the
partnership
meetings
to
have
time
to
review
and
see
what's
on
the
agenda
and
included
in
that
we
have
the
agenda
itself.
The
minutes
subcommittee
minutes
when
they
are
submitted
any
presentations
that
are
going
to
be
coming
forth
to
the
cac
and
partnership.
R
Also,
we
begin
to
include
the
actual
budget
on
a
monthly
basis
for
reviews
and
the
overall
meeting
schedule
that,
and
that
goes
out
every
month
for
the
upcoming
meetings
and
even
when
I'm
here
for
the
cac
presentations,
I
always
have
or
have
traditionally
had
the
upcoming
meetings,
dates
and
times
on
that
on
that
powerpoint
slide
for
review.
For
the
community
councilwoman.
C
B
Not
that's
not
what
I'm
hearing
from
the
community
already
that
that
this
is
not
coming
out
within
five
to
seven
days.
Is
there
a
way
that
I
don't
know
if
we
can
actually
get
those
agendas
sent
to
us
as
well
to
make
sure
that
we're
actually
getting
it
on
time.
R
Okay
next
slide
economic
development
staff,
as
it
relates
to
the
vacant
positions.
R
There
we
go,
as
you
know,
we've
in
the
last
three
months,
we've
hired
a
couple:
more
people
miss
vanessa
ross
who
comes
to
us
with
economic
development,
experience
and
housing
from
another
municipality,
and
we
also
have
hired
miss
b
parks.
Who
was
a
former
city?
R
Employee
has
housing
experience,
although
she's
assisting
us
in
communications,
but
she
does
have
a
level
of
knowledge
and
understanding
in
that
arena
as
well,
and
we
will
be
partnering
and
working
with,
amongst
ourselves,
the
staff
and
the
community
to
move
some
things
along
and
both
also
have
a
grant
writing
experience
as
well.
So
that's
how
we
have
addressed
those
issues.
I
know
that
miss
ross
started
in
january.
Ms
park
started
in
march,
and
we
also
added
mr
burks
in
february
of
this
year.
N
I
think
it's
great
because
I
know
relic
says
experience
you
know
and
that
that's
a
great
asset
that
she
can
kind
of
help
out.
So
applause
jeanette.
I
think
the
concern
of
your
board
and
your
in
the
community
is
that
when
you
talk
about
economic
development,
having
somebody
with
the
expertise
in
eyes
to
really
look
at
the
development
of
businesses,
development
of
the
community,
we
got
miss
vanessa
as
your
housing.
But
I
guess
they're
asking
is
that
they
need
an
economic
development
officer.
N
Somebody
who
knows
economic
development
to
get
the
engine
moving
to
foresee
and
look
at
projects
and
be
able
to
get
those
things
moving,
and
I
don't
think
we
have
that.
I
don't
see
that
and
I
think
that's
what
they're
upset
about.
Mostly.
Is
the
economic
development
portion
of
regener
rejuvenate
east
tampa
into
a
business
hub
of
you're
in
nebraska,
because
you're
you're
22nd
your
29th,
someone
who
has
that
first
set
skill
could
be
go
out
and
say
this
needs
to
be
developed
this
this.
This
can
be
built
into
this.
N
You
can
put
your
money
into
this
to
get
that
impact
that
they're
looking
for.
So
I
think
that's
something
that
down
the
road
that
the
team
needs
to
be
looking
at
if
that's
needed,
and
and
they
want
that,
but
I
believe
they
do.
They
want
an
economic
development
officer
who
knows
economic
development.
N
I
think
that's
key,
not
a
planner
planner
doesn't
do
economic
development.
It's
a
total
different
strategy
with
that.
So
I
think
down
the
road.
That's
the
conversation
I've
been
hearing,
I
think
that's
the
conversation
that's
needed
because
you
look
at
other
areas
of
the
city
they
built
that
economic
development
hub
somewhere.
So
I
think
that's
what
they're
looking
for?
N
M
M
Economic
development
means
two
things:
real
estate
develop
major
real
estate,
development
and
subsidies,
and
it
means
subsidizing,
out-of-state
companies
that
want
cheap
land,
cheap
taxes
and
cheap
labor
and
what
we
need
in
it.
What
we
need
is
is
to
really
help
entrepreneurial
growth
in
east
tampa
help
people
start
businesses,
help
them
sustain
businesses,
help
them
grow
their
businesses
outside
east
tampa
or
help
entrepreneurs.
That
would
make
sense
for
them
to
be
located
there,
and
so
what
we
need
is
somebody
who
really
understands
that
what
we
don't
need
is
when
we
started
three
years
ago.
M
There
was,
I
think,
three
million
dollars
in
this
bank
account.
It
looked
like
the
last
administration
was
banking,
the
money
to
to
subsidize
a
big
gentrification
project,
and
we
don't
need
that.
We
don't
need
to
take
the
winn-dixie
and
put
in
some
big
mall
or
some
big
box
development
that
we're
going
to
subsidize.
What
we
need
is
to
have
a
grassroots
effort
that
that
helps
people
start
businesses
and
build
up
the
community
and
build
the
infrastructure
around
that
that
that
activity,
and
also
the
neighborhood
commercial
centers.
Thank
you.
R
R
R
Yes,
I
have
been
given
a
report
that
was
done.
R
Actually,
I
believe,
last
year
in
2021
on
east
tampa
alleyways
recently
and
we're
having
discussions
over
the
over
about
an
overlay
had
our
last
meeting
last
tuesday
at
the
east,
hampton
partnership
meeting
on
that
evening,
and
we
are
having
discussions
about
the
alleyway
improvements
and
and
kind
of
explaining
and
having
those
conversations
with
residents
as
we
move
forward
with
the
budget
workshops
that
we're
going
to
be
having
in
the
next
month
or
so,
I'm
pretty
sure
that
we
will
be
discussing
you
know
going
through
the
budget
and
figuring
out
what
what
line
items
we
want
to
allocate
towards
how
we
and
how
we
want
to.
N
R
All
right,
thank
you.
Yes,
next
slide,
please:
okay,
hiring
specialized
consultants
to
hold
workshops
and
dedicated
discussing
you
know
we
will
and
have
been
discussing
the
nature
of
work
as
a
relations
with
consultants
defining
the
housing
programs.
That's
something
that
we
look
forward
to
doing
during
this
budget
process:
economic
development
programs
within
the
fy
22
budget
and
sub-committees,
and
we're
working
with
sub-committees
to
do
that.
R
The
sub-committee
committees,
for
the
most
part
are
very
active
and
we
have
eight
sub-committees,
I
would
venture
to
say
that's
probably
more
than
all
of
the
cras
throughout
the
city.
So
we
have
quite
a
few
and
staff
have
been
meeting
and
participating
and
engaging
and
informing
and
bringing
information
back
to
them.
R
M
Customer
calls
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
to
express.
I
have
concern
about
bloomberg's
involvement.
I
object
to
them
being
involved
in
the
cra.
If
the
mayor
wants
them
involved
in
the
city,
that's
fine
and
we
want
to
look
at
their
reports,
but
I
strongly
object
to
them
being
involved
in
the
cra
between
you,
michelle,
nicole
and
the
other
staff.
We've
got
great
expertise,
you
all
know
what
needs
to
be
done.
M
We
don't
need
to
listen
to
somebody
from
out
of
state
to
tell
us
what
to
do
and
I've
been
a
consultant
in
other
places
and
I've
hired
consultants
in
other
place
from
other
places.
But
but
in
this
case
we
don't,
I
think,
there's
too
much
influence
and
too
much
control
by
one
organization
and
we're
getting
one
philosophy
and
point
of
view
when,
when
you
all
know
best
practices,
you
just
come
back
from
working
in
another
place.
So
you
know
what
needs
to
be
done.
We
need
to.
M
N
We
know
what
needs
to
be
done.
I
don't
care
what
I
mean.
We
know
what
east
stamp
was
like.
I
just
don't
want
them
to
come
in
and
be
a
takeover
and
overrule
the
people
with
the
people
who
are
asking
for
what
they
want.
I
don't
know
too
much
about
the
bloomberg
project,
but
I
wouldn't
want
them
to
come
into
eastham
in
the
cra
and
just
start
telling
you
what
we
have
done.
We
already
know
so
many
things
we
do
need
so
just
kind
of
leery.
N
R
Okay
and
and
the
last
slide
as
it
relates
to
the
budgets
and
projects.
These
are
proposed
dates
for
our
upcoming
budget
workshops.
There
may
be
two
of
them
that
will
be
adjusted
just
found
out
yesterday
that
the
facility
that
we
normally
use
reagan
park
will
not
be
available,
but
we
will
make
those
dates
and
have
those
discussions
with
the
cac
in
the
upcoming
maine
meeting.
R
R
We
will
discuss
other
pending
things
that
cac
or
the
community
may
not
be
aware
of,
or
requirements
that
we're
bound
by
financially,
and
you
know
we
will
definitely
have
the
budget
to
them
and
then
present
it
to
you
at
the
appropriate
time
later
this
summer.
G
Given
many
of
the
comments
throughout
the
past
two
and
a
half
hours,
I'm
going
to
ask
to
do
my
director's
report
first
before
the
staff,
so
that
we
can
sort
of
wrap
up
and
coalesce
a
lot
of
what
you've
been
talking
about,
what
you've
been
hearing
and
sort
of
again
bring
this
all
together.
G
I
wasn't
quite
knowing
that
when
I
put
my
report
together
that
it
was
going
to
be
quite
so,
I
kind
of
look
like
I've
had
some
sort
of
tarot
reader
that
I
went
to
to
tell
me
what
I
should
be
talking
about
today
before
I
go
into
the
powerpoint
on
the
bloomberg
just
within
10
minutes
ago.
It
was
just
told
to
cra
and
earlier
in
the
morning
that
we
need
more
staff.
G
We
need
to
get
consultants,
we
need
to
get
consultants
and
we've
got
money
in
the
budget
to
hire
consultants
to
help,
tell
us
and
advise
us
on
economic
development
initiatives
on
redeveloping
properties.
So
the
two
things
when
I
was
offered
assistance
by
bloomberg
that
I
told
them
that
I
could
see
a
big
help
with
in
east
tampa
was
that
we
did
not
get
the
grant
for
the
smart
institute
and
there
is
still
talk
about
moving
forward
with
that.
G
So
that
was
one
of
the
two
items
we
asked
for
the
second
one
which
we
had
put
money
in
the
budget
for
was
land
acquisition
and
to
look
at
corridors
and
commercial
corridors
and
look
at
what
are
opportunities
for
us
to
acquire
properties
that
are
vacant
dilapidated,
either
to
knock
a
building
down
or
to
rehab
it
and
turn
something
into
it.
And
so
I
asked
them
and
they're.
This
is
not
a
three-year
contract.
It
would
not
be
in
east
tampa
for
three
years,
but
they
would
come
in.
G
As
we
talked
about
development
initiative
person,
that
was
a
big
focus
for
council
member
goods
and
for
the
cac.
But
this
is
something
that
can
start
on
the
ground
right
now.
So
again,
we're
not
having
them
tell
us
what
to
do
we're
looking
for
their
ideas
and
options
and
what
they
see
with
their
understanding
and
economic
development
background.
M
Councilman
carlson
yeah,
I
just
don't
think
they
should
be
involved
at
all
the
concern
of
the
community
is
that
there's
a
political
slant
or
agenda
and
although
they
may
be
working
with
cities
around
the
world,
there
are
lots
of
consultants
who
are
working
with
cities
around
the
world,
and
you
can
find
one
that
that
specializes
in
the
kinds
of
things
we
want.
But
from
the
first
time
I
met
you,
you've
spent
a
lot
of
time
personally
in
east
tampa
you've
studied
it.
You
have
a
master's
degree
in
it.
M
M
We
we
have
people
that
are
regularly
studying
best
practices
and
we're
not
fully
utilizing
capability
of
our
alarm
people
and
what
what
what
the
gap
is
is
we
need
to
listen
to
the
community,
the
process
that
mr
seacher
talked
about
this
morning
for
other
for
west
tampa,
and
these
others
see
we
need
to
listen
to
the
community,
look
at
the
best
practices
that
we
all
know
what
needs
to
be
done
and
then
and
then
approve
projects
related
to
that
we're
all.
I
think
geeks
on
this
and
we're
studying
it
all
the
time.
M
My
fear,
by
the
way
you
talk
about
corridors,
not
you
know
it's
it's
it's
not
about
how
people
interact
with
it.
It's
about
real
estate
developments
and,
in
an
example,
boston,
community
capital
they
build
shop
houses
and
and
on
the
on
the
top
is
affordable.
Housing
on
the
bottom
is
is
subsidized
space
for
entrepreneurs
and
sometimes
they'll
take
an
equity
stake
in
the
in
the
business
that
they're
subsidizing
them
to
rent,
but
that
provides
space
for
for
entrepreneurs
to
set
up
there's
no
other
than
maybe
open.
Cafe.
M
M
We
know
that
we
need
to
promote
entrepreneurship.
We
need
the
training
programs.
We
need
to
suggest
that
people
start
businesses,
we
need
places
for
them
to
do
it.
We
need.
We
need
coffee
shops
for
them
to
get
the
initial
ideas,
we
need
access
to
information
and
capital.
That's
what's
going
to
radically
transform
the
difference
between
downtown,
tampa
and
downtown
st
p.
Why
is
it
that
that
still
people
come
from
downtown
st
b
to
downton
tampa
and
they
they
say
there
are
lots
of
great
buildings,
but
no?
M
Paris
has
a
big
boulevard,
and
so
we
need
to
build
french-themed
buildings
along
along
hillsborough
avenue,
so
that
we'll
provide
a
new
kind
of
gateway
to
east
tampa.
N
I
never
take
nothing
away,
that's
free,
I
mean
if
it's
free
and
they
can
lend
a
hand,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
a
takeover
per
se.
So
if
we
still
have
control
and
they're
helping
for
free,
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
free.
We
we
need
all
the
help
we
can
get
with
ideas.
I
don't
know
at
all.
I
know
mr
cross
has
way
more
experience
because
he's
been
all
over
the
world-
and
I
haven't
so
he's
seen
a
lot
of
stuff
that
I've
never
seen.
N
He
probably
won't
get
to
see
in
a
lifetime,
and
I
applaud
his
efforts
to
because
he
he
knows
his
his
expertise
in
there
and
I
don't,
but
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
free.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
we
stay
kind
of
in
control.
G
J
Councilman
I
could
attest
with
mr
good
to
spend
councilman
good
if
it's
free,
not
it's
for
me.
No,
but
if
it's
free
and
they're
going
to
be
a
value
and
it's
up
to
and
there's
safety
valves,
you're
going
to
say
yeah
name,
we're
going
to
say,
yearn
a
so
if
somebody
wants
to
make
a
commitment
to
help
what
you
have
with
your
staff
coming
in
and
I'm
going
to
say
no
to
it.
I
also
say:
hey:
listen
what
about
the
next
one
that
I'm
paying,
for,
I
also
can
say
no
to
it.
C
M
M
It's
about
a
50
page
report
that
talks
about
it's
it's
now
25
years
old,
but
it's
about
taking
a
different
look
at
at
inner
cities
and
how
to
development
them
by
building
up
quality
life
and
and
and
businesses
instead
of
gentrification-
and
I
think
you
know
the
community's
crying
to
us
every
week.
Don't
gentrify
help
us
and
there
are
a
lot
of
ways
to
do
that.
But
we
that's
one
50-page
report
that
you
can
read
and
there's
lots
of
other
literature
out
there
and
experts
on
it,
but
that
that's
a
great
start.
G
So,
to
be
clear,
what
we're
asking
is:
where
do
they
recommend
the
cra
look
at
opportunities
for
us
to
strategically
acquire
property
so
that
we
can
control
the
rfp
and
the
type
of
redevelopment,
whether
it
is
for
non-profits
or
for
incubators
or
whatever?
That
may
be,
but
we're
looking
for
just
advice
to
help
us,
because
we
have
seven
and
three-quarter
square
miles
and
a
lot
of
commercial
corridors
and
a
lot
of
dilapidated
vacant
buildings
problem.
M
But
the
problem
is:
what's
the
plan,
it's
if
you
were
just
looking
at
civil
real
estate
for
what
what's
the
what's
the
goal?
Well,.
G
That'll
get
to
my
next
part
of
my
report,
and
that
also
includes
that
talking
to
the
community
that
no
one
said
this
was
happening
in
a
vacuum,
but
but
thank
you
for
the
segue
into.
Can
you
bring
up
the
powerpoint
for
number
seven
so,
a
couple
months
ago,
councilman
miranda
at
the
cra
board
meeting
listening
to
several
the
comments
said
so,
what's
different
about
east
tampa,
what's
different
about
what's
happening
in
east
tampa
and
I've
been
really
thinking
about
what
is
different.
How
are
we
operating?
What
are
we
doing
differently?
G
G
We
have
incredible
passion,
and
this
is
not
saying
that
the
other
cacs
do
not
right
now,
but
there
is
so
much
passion
and
so
much
energy
and
dedication
and
determination
and
empowerment.
I
want
to
get
back
to
the
empowerment
in
a
few
minutes
and
caring.
You
hear
the
frustration
and
I
put
that
on
purpose
the
impatience
we
need
stuff
to
get
done
and
it
is
universal
and
is
what
we
are
hearing.
M
I'm
not
african-american,
but
I
find
that
slide
very
offensive.
You
know
one
of
the
things
people
say
about
african-american
community
is
that
they're
too
emotional?
I
don't
know
how
you
feel
about
it,
but
I
just
I
don't
I.
I
think
we
ought
to
be
careful
with
that
kind
of
slide.
G
Understood
next
slide,
please,
so
it
came
up
again
today.
The
number
of
chairs
we've
had
so
in
four
years
we've
had
three
chairs.
Not
only
have
we
had
three
chairs
in
four
years,
so
we
had
miss
goodly
for
two
years
and
immediately
at
the
end
of
her
two
years
we
had
a
new
chair
and
immediately
a
year
later
we
had
new
chair.
G
G
And
we
have
the
same
conversation.
We
don't
want
you
to
get
burned
out
in
three
months.
We
want
the
chair
to
last-
hopefully
two
years-
maybe
another
two
years,
but
it
becomes
so
easy
to
take
that
weight
and
think
it
is
your
responsibility
as
chair
to
have
to
make
something
happen
right
away
and
when
you
have
10
or
15
different
needs
of
community,
that's
a
lot
that
you're
trying
to
accomplish
and
again
all
of
this
is
coming
to.
G
G
G
And
for
getting
things
done
and
for
making
a
difference
in
your
community,
what
we're
having
right
now
is
a
lot
of
people
working
very
hard,
all
going
in
lots
of
different
directions
and
you're
receiving
emails
from
community
members
and
one
or
two
cac
members,
and
they
are
talking
to
the
chief
of
staff
and
they
are
going
to
other
organizations
and
they
are
all
going
off
trying
very
hard
to
pursue
an
accomplishment
to
pursue
a
program.
G
What
happens
in
all
of
that
and
the
end
result
for
all
of
that
is
that
they
have
lost
their
sense
of
community
and
cac
and
how
we
had
been
operating
and
it
came
earlier.
Miss
tate,
chair,
tate,
asked
you
what's
the
magic
that
west
tampa
is
doing
west
tampa
is
not
doing
anything
magic.
There
is
nothing
different
that
west
tampa
is
doing
from
ebor
or
drew
park
when
you
heard
from
marissa
they
are
all
following
the
same
basic
process.
G
So
when
those
cra
districts
have
success,
what
they
are
doing
is
the
ca
work.
Cac
work
starts
in
the
cac
those
discussions
start
at
the
cac.
We
have
the
decisions
at
the
cac.
We
have
subcommittees
that
are
created
as
a
tool
to
assist
the
cacs.
As
we
mentioned.
Not
all
cac
have
subcommittees
and
drew
park,
for
example,
started
out
with
two
subcommittees
and
after
those
tasks
were
completed,
they
didn't
need
them
anymore
and
they
did
not
use
them.
G
Drew
park,
went
through
the
designing
of
parks,
the
designing
of
lois,
the
designing
of
the
gateway
monuments,
and
they
did
those
discussions
at
their
cac,
and
we
understand
east
tampa
and
in
west
tampa.
There
are
so
many
programs
that
they're
working
on
that.
It
cannot
always
happen
in
a
monthly
cac
meeting
and
we
then
again
use
our
subcommittees
as
tools.
G
G
All
of
that
is
in
partnership
and
all
of
our
other
series
with
our
cra
staff.
That's
what
we're
here
for
is
that
we
understand
the
processes
and
we
can
answer
those
questions.
When
the
questions
go
to
everybody
else.
There's
also
a
time
gap
and
you
get
the
rumors
and
you
get
the
questions
of.
Should
I
be
going
directly
to
a
subcommittee
should
I
be
going
to
here?
Who
should
I
be
talking
to?
G
If
you
start
with
cra
staff,
we
can
answer
that
question
right
off
the
bat
and
then
there's
no
guessing,
there's
no
rumors
and
this
past
week,
especially
48
hours,
the
rumors
again
about
what's
happening.
What
has
been
done
what's
been
approved
and
it's
because
these
discussions
are
not
primarily
focused
anymore
at
the
cac
level.
N
N
N
People
tell
us
something
and
then
it
doesn't
happen,
and
then
we
get
frustrated
because
you
told
us
one
thing
now:
someone
else
got
something,
but
we
didn't
get
it
or
it's
a
frustration
and
a
lot
of
people
might
not
understand
that
saying
that,
but
I
do
being
a
black
man.
I
understand
that
that
frustration,
I
understand,
being
poor
understanding
in
the
community
it's
difficult
at
times.
N
I
think
we
got
to
build
the
trust
back
again,
that
things
are
going
to
happen,
we're
going
to
show
them
something
is
going
to
happen
and
when
you
talk
about
again
the
cec
makeup,
some
of
these
people
don't
know
to
know
so
you
have
these
people
that
have
gotten
on
subcommittees
that
are
saying
this
needs
to
happen.
So
again
we
talk
about
process.
We
got
to
understand
process
because
some
of
the
things
that
some
committees
are
saying
it's
true.
It
needs
to
happen
because
the
cac
members
may
not
know
that
needs
to
happen.
N
So
I
think
that's
where
your
confusion
and
then
we
bring
in
the
partnership
so,
like
I
said,
we've
got
to
find
a
way
now
to
bring
this
all
into
one
and
and
have
a
straight
process.
So
people
know
the
rules
going
in
a
video
presentation.
This
is
how
the
process
works.
So
now
they
can
channel
their
anger
in
the
right
place.
N
They
can
channel
their
questions
in
the
right
place,
so
we
can
get
the
results,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
where
are
the
results?
So,
even
if
we
go
through
the
process,
people
still
feel
the
trust
factors
out
there
because
they
see
no
end
of
the
day
results
of
a
while
and
they're
still
hungry.
So
that's
what
we
got
to
get
to
making
them
trust
and
believe
the.
Why.
G
G
So
so
what
I
am
asking
the
cra
board
and
your
assistance
with
to
aid
east
tampa
to
help
them
get
back
on
track,
because,
where
we
are
hung
up
is
if
the
discussions
do
not
happen
at
the
cac,
then
we
don't
know
what
they
want.
They
don't
know
what
they
want.
The
discussions
are
not
happening
so,
and
I
brought
this
up
several
months
ago
and
the
discussions
still
have
not
happened.
So
we
adopted
a
budget
and
fy
22
with
line
items
with
millions
of
dollars.
G
We
tried
to
start
to
have
that
discussion
at
the
cac
members
with
at
the
cac
meeting
as
early
as
august
and
then
october
and
then
november
and
the
time
runs
out.
The
focus
is
in
other
places
and
they
have
not
as
a
cac
defined
what
it
is.
They
want
the
consultants
to
do
what
they
want
the
housing
programs
to
do
what
they
want
the
business
development.
We
have
the
money
there.
It
isn't
that
staff
is
not
running
out
and
building
programs.
G
So
we
can
take
that
and
we
can
help
either
with
the
subcommittee
or
we
take
it
back
and
build
it
and
come
back
to
them,
but
the
conversation
has
to
start
with
the
cac,
our
staff,
no
matter
how
great
we
are,
are
operating
in
the
dark.
If
all
I
have
is
housing,
two
million
dollars
economic
development,
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
G
G
There
was
the
volume
and
the
frustration
from
the
volume
and
the
processes
or
not
understanding
how
it
worked,
and
so
we
kept
starting
and
stopping
and
starting
and
stopping
with
something
is
an
easy
2500
grand
2500
grant.
Now
you
have
an
owner
occupied
this
time.
Last
year,
miss
ransom
was
just
starting
in
her
housing
subcommittee
to
get
that
defined
and
worked.
G
So
that
she
could
get
that-
and
she
herself
did
a
great
job,
mostly
by
herself,
with
our
stealth
staff,
to
bring
that
to
fruition,
and
you
ask
that
we
not
have
a
whole
lot
of
restrictions
and
criteria
and
make
it
easy.
But
then
we
have
to
come
up
with
a
way
to
make
a
program
that
has
a
lot
less
restrictions,
but
still
has
the
safeguards
so
that
we
don't
end
up
on
the
paper
like
we
saw
a
few
months
ago
with
another
program
and
that
there
are
the
safeguards
that
people
get
it.
G
G
So
if
it
takes
us
a
couple
more
months
to
get
a
program
that
is
well
vetted
and
well
thought
out,
so
that
when
we
roll
it
out,
we
don't
stop
it
two
months
later,
because
we
didn't
think
of
something
or
that
we
ran
into
trouble.
Not
that
100
we
can
do
that,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
we've
got
a
program
that
works,
that
when
we
do
roll
it
out,
it
can
roll
out
and
go
full
force,
and
we
don't
have
to
stop.
N
Councilman
goods
and
I
think
that's
how
well
and
good
that's
why
I
asked
for
the
motion
about
having
the
cec
come
here
to
get
their
frustrations
out,
so
they
can
tell
us
what
they
want.
They
can
tell
us
and
you're
here
with
your
staff
to
focus
on
those
points
and
how
to
get
it
done.
N
So
I
think
I
think
that
means
coming
up
on
a
tuesday,
tuesday
night.
So
now,
we'll
we're
gonna
we'll
be
here
they
gonna,
be
here
they'll,
be
able
to
tell
us
their
frustration.
They'll
tell
us
what
they
want.
What
they're
looking
to
do
you'll
be
able
to
hear
it
we'll
be
able
to
pinpoint
these
things
down,
and
then
we
go
at
line
by
line
saying
how
we're
going
to
accomplish
unlockable
rehab,
how
we're
going
to
accomplish
freedom
whatever?
N
G
What
I'm
saying
is
the
subcommittee
should
not
go
just
like
here.
The
subcommittee
should,
when
they're
brainstorming
and
talking
go,
develop
and
spend
three
months
to
develop
a
program.
They
did
not
talk
to
the
cac
about,
so
the
cac
is
the
one
who
is
deciding
what
they
want
to
do.
They
are
the
ones
who
develop
the
budget.
They
are
the
ones
who
are
saying
our
priority.
N
I
have
a
different
opinion
on
that
and
I'll
tell
you
my
different
opinion.
If
I'm
on
a
subcommittee
and
rcac
don't
know
about
issues
going
on
and
I'm
in
the
community
and
I'm
the
chair
of
that
particular
subcommittee,
and
I
don't
I
don't-
have
an
issue
with
the
the
chairperson
of
that
supplement,
submitting
a
briefing
submitting
something
to
the
chair
of
the
cac
saying.
This
is
an
issue
maybe
no.
G
I
can
agree
100.
What
I'm
saying
is
the
subcommittees.
Just
like
all
of
you,
you
tell
the
cacs.
We
have
the
processes.
This
is
your
priority:
affordable,
housing,
business
development
if
they
want
off
on
left
field.
I
had
a
council
person
say
to
me
the
other
day
we
don't
know
what's
going
on
in
the
cacs.
G
How
do
we
know
this
is
what
the
priority
of
the
cac
is.
The
cac
also
needs
to
know
what
their
subcommittees
are
doing,
so
it
is
not
that
they
can't
work
on
anything,
but
is
that
the
priority
right
now?
So
if
they
do
all
that
and
come
back
and
the
cac
says
well
right
now,
I
don't
want
to
fund
that
because
here's
my
other
three
priorities
that
are
higher
priority,
so
the
communication
has
to
be
there,
but
it
is
it's
just
a
matter
of
the
workflows
from
the
cac
we'll.
G
M
Councilman
cross
yeah,
I
just
as
van
loan
fruit
for
you
for
the
public.
For
my
colleagues,
I
want
everybody
to
know
that
if
I
seem
frustrated,
it's
not
frustration
at
you
and
please
don't
take
it
that
way.
If
you
have,
I
apologize
for
that.
My
frustration
is
just
with
the
process
and
where
we
are-
and
I
know
you
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
around
east
tampa
and
also
on
the
cras,
and
I
have
confidence
that
you
will
help
us
guide
us
through
this.
M
What
happens
is
that
we
do
these
strategic
action
plans
and
all
they
are
is
lists
of
projects
that
an
engineering
firm
or
somebody
listed
there's
no
vision
of
how
it
all
ties
together
and
if
we
had
you
know
three
years
ago,
we
voted
to
create
a
strategic
plan
for
the
for
the
cra
board
and
we
don't
have
that
so
there's
no
there's,
no
consensus.
A
vision
of
where
we
want
to
go.
Consensus
may
be
on
things
like
affordable
housing,
but
that's
a
piece
or
a
component
of
it.
M
What
we
need
in
each
of
these
districts
is
a
vision,
and
I
hope
what
we'll
come
away
with
on
tuesday
is
not
just
maybe
a
better
process,
but
also
a
vision
for
what
so
we
can
picture
in
our
heads.
What
east
tampa
will
look
like,
and
it's
not
defined
by
pretty
new
buildings
coming
up.
But
how
are
the
people
going
to
interact
with
the
with
the
space?
Thank
you.
G
G
G
The
second
thing
that
that
was
a
a
another
problem
with
that
again,
where
I
talk
about
that
energy
to
get
something
done
and
the
excitement
to
go.
Do
that
and
get
something
done
is
that
the
process
is.
You
come
talk
to
cra
staff,
because
here's
what
we
do
we
talk
to
the
whoever
is
interested
and
one
we
know
if
the
cra
can
spend
the
money
on
it,
not
just
because
of
163.
But
what's
in
that
cra's
community
redevelopment
plan
because,
like
you
saw
several
of
your
cras,
can
do
cultural
assets
but
tampa
heights
riverfront.
G
How
can
we
make
that
happen
and
if
not
the
next
year,
that
again
is
our
job
prior
to
getting
to
the
cac
and
then
we
can
recommend
to
them
and
let
them
know
the
process
and
the
next
step
to
get
your
requests
made
is
to
come
to
the
cac,
make
the
request
they
may
refer
to
a
subcommittee
just
like
the
skills
center
did.
It
went
to
the
subcommittee
and
it
came
back
to
the
cac
for
a
vote,
so
they
referred
it
and
it
came
back
and
the
process
went
through
that
so
with
our
staff.
G
G
None
of
us
have
approved,
and
that
has
not
gone
that
way
and
the
reason
I
want
to
emphasize
that
it
was
brought
up
this
morning
that
you
were
asked
to
make
sure
we
don't
abuse
the
cra
funds
again,
we
can't
spend
phones
and
we
don't
spend
funds
that
have
not
been
approved
through
the
ca
through
all
of
you
and
I
have
to
have
resolves.
I
have
to
have
motions
I
have
to
so.
We
cannot
abuse
those
funds.
We
can
only
spend
them
as
they
have
been
approved
through
the
process.
One.
B
It
sounds
I
mean
everything.
It
sounds
and
I'm
coming
into
this,
obviously
just
in
the
last
week,
but
it
sounds
there's
a
lot
of
miscommunication.
Have
you
done
any
type
of
like
a
powerpoint
presentation
to
go
to
them
and
say
these
are
the
processes?
Let's
talk
this
out
before
we
even.
G
August
october
november,
yes,
and
even
when
we
do,
I
even
we
do
the
cac
training
that
we
did.
One
of
the
things
we
point
out
as
councilman
goods
can
tell
you,
is
we
don't
expect
you
to
memorize
them,
know
everything
that
we
just
told
you
the
same
line.
I
talked
to
you
about.
We
just
want
you
to
know.
You
heard
something
about
this.
You
remember
that
we
talked
about
it.
B
G
Mr
mcrae
has
been
meeting
one-on-one
with
necac
members
before
the
meetings
so
that
there
can
be
these
discussions
and
under
so
it's
monthly.
Okay.
B
B
G
Consider
I
I
appreciate
that.
Yes,
we
have
to
know
who
to
approach
and
ask
who
needs
our
help,
though,
so
it
has
to
be
a
two-way
communication.
I'm
not
trying
to
get
out
of
our
responsibility.
We
want
to
engage.
We
cannot
be
effective
without
that
dialogue.
We
cannot
help
move
the
community
forward.
We
cannot
be
effective
because
we
are
by
your
structure,
set
up
to
be
a
partnership
between
the
staff
and
the
cac
who
are
the
representatives
of
30
000
people
plus
in
east.
Tampa.
We
want
the
dialogue,
we
want
every
opportunity
for
the
dialogue.
G
C
C
C
C
We
good
okay,
it's
12,
15,
now
12
30,
we'll
be
finished
or
we'll
be
going
to
lunch.
Is
that
all
right
with
everyone.
C
D
B
The
special
call
meeting
is
for
a
meeting
between
this
board
and
the
east
campus
cac
to
discuss
issues
specific
to
the
east,
hampton
community
redevelopment
area.
Only
so
we
really
can't
talk
about
anything
other
than
that.
That's
the
sole
purpose
of
that
meeting
I
wanted
to
briefly.
Since
it
came
up,
you
know
what
we're
proposing
is.
Obviously
you
all
will
have
your
seats
up
here.
B
We
will
reserve
the
front
part
of
the
the
chamber
for
the
members
of
the
cac
we've
arranged
for
a
fairly
general
agenda
and
for
them
to
come
up
and
address
you
and
then
staff
to
answer
questions
there's
also
a
a
point
in
the
agenda
where
we
will
allow
any
issues
that
aren't
haven't
been
addressed
on
the
agenda.
If
the
cac
members
would
like
to
address
you
on
other
matters
to
come
up
and
address
you
on
other
matters
that
are
on
the
agenda
as
well.
Mr.
N
C
N
C
B
I
can
we
still
receive,
I
know
we
do
have
written
information,
but
anything
they
may
have
presented
to
just
come
on.
E
G
Have
questions
so
what
we'll
do,
if
you
have
any
questions
from
the
information
and
especially
for
councilwoman
hertek,
we'll
also
be
again,
we
didn't
want
to
inundate
you
in
your
first
week,
but
as
when,
all
the
other
cra
board
members
started
we'll
set
up
one-on-ones
with
you
with
the
various
cra
managers
and
also
for
the
short
term.
If
there's
any
questions
about
any
specific,
that's
all
I
needed.
Thank
you.
Okay.
G
Item
10,
okay
item
10
is
similar
to
what
you
approved
in
december.
The
center
for
economic
development
has
a
list
of
seven
properties.
They
would
like
to
help
with
cleanup
and
they
requested
nine,
but
they
went
over
last
time,
so
I
just
rounded
up
to
ten
the
cac
approved
ten
and
that
is
being
held
at
the
end
of
motion.
Proof
second,.
C
G
Number
11
is
potentially
controversial,
so
this
is
a
standalone
grant
request.
This
is
the
same
like
you
did
for
the
straz,
like
you
do,
for
the
cdc
tampa
for
190
000,
for
infrastructure
for
affordable
housing,
tampa
housing
authority.
All
of
those
stand-alone
grants
that
you
do.
G
We
refer
them
as
stalin
alone
grants,
because
we
don't
do
them
very
often
they're
more
circumstantial
and
to
write
a
program
or
a
grant
guide
for
that,
because
they're
all
over
the
place
and
again
we
don't
do
very
many
of
these
and
the
process
is
the
same
for
everything
else.
You
make
the
requests
the
cac
they
cannot
at
their
choice,
refer
to
a
subcommittee,
the
cac
votes
on
it,
and
then
it
comes
here
with
this
item.
I'm
just
going
to
talk
about
process
and
steps
it
was.
G
They
came
and
talked
at
the
subcommittee
that
came
to
the
cac
the
cac
voted
10-1
to
approve
it.
I
am
going
to
for
lack
a
better
term
say
there
appears
to
be
buyer's
remorse
and
you
have
had
requests
so
the
one
request
you
got
from
miss
noreen
copeland
miller.
She
was
the
one
nay
vote
out
of
the
11
votes
at
the
cac,
and
the
chair
has
expressed
concerns,
so
there's
nothing
from
a
staff
side
that
is
pushing
or
anything
else.
G
N
I
I
for
the
skills
center,
but
I
don't
know
what
we're
getting
for
that.
I
think
that's
the
concern
just
no
different
than
with
the
stress
with
these
items.
What
return
do
we
get
on
our
investment
with
this
type
of
money
helping?
So
I
think
that's
what's
going
on
right
now
and
I
think
the
board
wants
to
figure
out
what
are
we
getting?
N
B
Master
the
one
thing
I
would
also
mention
relative
to
the
straz
funding.
We
did
have
a
very
large
funding
agreement
that
went
into
a
lot
of
detail
about
what
the
funds
were
going
to
be
used
for.
So,
if
you
wanted
to
defer
this
until
we
had
an
agreement,
maybe
that
spelled
out
that
level
of
detail
that
maybe
gave
you
and
the
community
additional
assurance.
G
So
if
it
is
not
going
to
go
through
we're
not
going
to
you
know,
it
was
again
like
the
straz
or
with
the
tampa
museum
of
art,
or
even
you
saw
for
over
a
couple
meetings,
just
150
000
around
the
emily
arena.
So
if
you're
interested.
N
G
C
Q
I
may
yes
thank
you,
you
know
I
mean
I'll
all
vote
to
well.
Let
me
ask
you:
if
I
made
this
this
funding
sought
it's
nothing
time
limited.
You
know
they
need
it
for
some
specific
project.
That's
coming
up.
If
we
defer
for
30
days,
it's
going
to
prejudice
them
in
any
way,
no
to
the
best
of
your
knowledge,
no
okay.
G
Q
I
I'll
vote
for
the
motion.
If
there
has
been
some
inquiries
etc.
You
know,
but
for
me
I
mean,
for
this
is
what
cra
should
be
doing.
I
I
went
like
other
folks
here
to
the
skills
center.
I
think
they
do
remarkable
work,
remarkable
work
and
I'd
love
to
see
them
get
these
funds
so
I'll
vote
for
the
motion,
but
I,
unless,
if
there's
some
huge
surprise,
I
I
fully
plan
on
enthusiastically
voting
for
this
item
whenever
it
returns
to
us
next
time
can.
G
I
ask
that
your
motion
again
just
so
there's
clarity
of
process
and
everybody
knows
what
to
expect.
Can
we
refer
it
back
to
the
cac
for
the
cac
to
engage
in
a
discussion
with
the
skills
center
have
their
come
with
their
questions
so
that
they
can
be
answered
so
the
skills
center
knows
what
to
expect,
and
your
cac
members
know
what
to
expect.
How.
N
Can
we
state
the
motion?
Thank
you
state
motion
that
this
we've
referred
back
to
the
cec,
along
with
a
meeting
with
the
skill
center
to
talk
about
the
the
the
the
the
project
and
any
other
outcomes
or
measures
that
we'll
incorporate
with
our
cac.
C
B
G
J
B
C
G
Going
to
hold
15
to
the
end,
there's
going
to
be
discussion
on
it.
16
the
community
redevelopment
agency
tip.
This
is
just
your
year-end
financial
report.
After
they've
closed
all
the
books.
C
G
C
N
G
Number
19
is
also
channel
district.
Doing
the
same
thing.
This
will
be
a
yearly
contract
to
help
clean
up
with
all
the
construction
there's
so
much
painting,
there's
so
much
landscaping
over
the
years,
and
so
they
are
looking
to
also
put
an
hour
fp
for
an
annual
basis
of
a
maintenance
contract.
Second,.
C
Motion
moved
motion
moved
by
councilman
mascocho
seconded
by
councilman
miranda,
all
in
favor.
All
right
is
there.
Any
opposed
motion
carries.
M
I
just
want
to
say
this:
isn't
we're
going
to
talk
about
number
15
in
a
minute,
but
this
is
an
example
of
something
that
that
every
neighborhood
in
the
city
would
love
to
have
and
other
neighborhoods
feel
that
it's
unfair,
that
certain
parts
of
the
city
that
don't
have
slim
and
blight
are
getting
special
treatment
and
and
other
neighborhoods
or
not.
Thank
you,
but
I
voted
for
it
anyway.
G
G
Thank
you,
but
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
we're
asking
to
update
the
community
redevelopment
plan.
Thank.
M
Just
quickly,
I
voted
for
that,
but
two
things
number
one
is
we
asked
for
all
the
plans
to
be
updated
three
years
ago.
I
think
I'm
surprised
it
took
so
long
number
two.
Is
we
really
need
to
look
at
sunsetting
this
or
putting
a
cap
on
it,
because
the
the
other,
the
neighborhoods,
that
subsidize
these
areas
that
don't
have
slum
blight
are
gonna,
are
gonna,
come
before
us
and
start
complaining
more
and
more
as
they
see
these
things
continue.
M
G
G
Okay,
so
we'll
go
to
21.
The
west
tampa
cac
since
last
summer
has
been
working
to
try
and
expedite
the
improvements
to
ray
park
and
selcinas
park.
They're
requesting
this
reprogramming
950
000
would
go
to
a
design
construct
for
celcinas
park.
The
parks
department
has
provided
wonderful
conceptual
drawings
and
taken
feedback
from
the
community,
and
now
they
would
like
to
move
forward
with
hiring
a
designer
to
actually
design
that
same
concept
for
ray
park.
C
G
C
M
M
M
I
just
think
this
is
an
example
of
the
lack
of
having
a
vision
that
sal
cena's
park
in
particular
is
a
really
key
property
in
that
area,
and
I've
done
some
research
on
the
past
and
I
I
I
think
we
should
look
at
maintaining
and
building
parks,
but
we
also
ought
to
look
at
the
best
use
of
a
piece
of
property
like
this
and
it's.
M
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
vision
for
how
the
property,
how
that
our
communities
are
going
to
interact
with
each
other
instead
of
instead
of
just
replacing
things
that
are
already
there.
There
used
to
be
a.
I
think
it
was
a
pharmacy
sauciness
pharmacy
and
it
be
in
the
70s.
They
were
desperate
to
try
to
figure
out
how
to
redevelop
the
area,
so
they
took
like
20
thousand
dollars
from
the
federal
government
to
build
a
park,
but
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
have
a
park
right
in
that
location.
G
G
M
M
Same
thing
on
this
one
as
the
downtown
one
we
we
talked
about
putting
a
cap
and
a
year
or
so
ago,
and
the
community
said
we
want
a
strategic
action
plan
update.
I
think
you
all
met
with
folks
like
I
did
and
listened
to
them.
They
included.
They
said
they've
included
everything
they
wanted
in
here,
and
this
only
goes
up
for
like
another
three
to
five
years,
but
the
c
c
r
a
still
has
about
10
years.
M
One
is
not
to
touch
the
cra,
what
the
other
is
to
put
a
cap
on
it
after
these
items
and
the
third
one
is
to
leave
like
10
or
20
percent
in
the
cra
for
the
duration,
but
take
the
rest
of
it
and
move
it
somewhere
else,
and
although
the
cra
board
cannot
control
where
the
money
goes,
if
it's
not
in
there,
this,
the
city
council,
can
because
we
control
the
budget,
and
so
we
could
set
up
a
park
fund
or
something,
but
we're
more
and
more
we're
going
to
hear
from
other
neighborhoods
that
are
subsidizing
in
in
places
where
there
is
slim
and
blight
people
understand,
but
in
downtown
channel
district
they're
they're
asking.
M
Why
are
our
parks
falling
apart?
Why
don't
we
have
sidewalks?
Why
do
we
have
potholes?
We
need
to
figure
out
where
the
budget
comes
from
and
they
don't
want
us
to
raise
taxes
and
last
thing
I'll
say:
is
there
at
least
three
proposals,
I've
heard
of
for
new
cra
districts
and
what
you
should
think
of?
Is
that
really
means
increasing
taxes
for
the
rest
of
the
city?
M
A
vote
for
a
new
cra
is
really
voting
for
an
increase
in
taxes
for
everybody.
So
I
would
ask
everybody,
please
look
at
that
carefully.
Thank
you.
I've
also.
J
C
Okay,
information
reports,
guys
mccarson,
no
sir,
I
think
councilman
goode
councilwoman
hertag
councilman
mascalco.
Q
I
did
want
to
just
publicly
acknowledge
that
theresa
pierce
many
of
us
knew
was
a
marvelous
attorney,
just
a
great
great
great
woman.
She
was
a
colleague
and
a
friend
and
she
passed
on.
I
believe
it
was
on
monday,
I
believe-
and
just
I
know
we
all
send
our
best
to
her
husband,
travis
and
and
their
children
and
just
a
tremendous
loss.
She
was
such
a
good,
decent
woman,
so
just
god
bless
her.
Thank
you.
J
G
Yes,
if
you'll
indulge
me
one
second,
shalisha
jackson,
our
office
support
specialist,
who
has
been
with
us
over
10
years,
is
taking
a
very
large
promotion
and
we'll
be
working
in
our
solid
waste
department
over
on
the
administration
side.
We're
very
excited
for
her.
She
starts
monday.
So
please
don't
write
to
shalisha
go
ahead
and
just
give
us
a
little
we're
already
looking
and
evaluating
applicants.
G
They
had
already
recently
done
a
recruitment,
and
I
can
just
piggyback
off
of
that
and
so
we're
going
through
that
now
and
I
hope
to
have
it
filled
in
a
very
short
period
of
time.
But
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
everything
that
she
has
done
and
been
a
part
of
this
department
and
watched
us
through
so
much,
especially
in
the
core,
cras
and
being
a
central
part
of
our
department.
We
will
forever
be
in
her
debt,
and
I
just
want
to
publicly
wish
her
well
and
thank
her.
C
I
agreed
I
look
forward
to
her
emails,
giving
me
information
on
where
I
need
to
be
at
times
mood
to
receive
file.
There's
a
motion
made
by
councilman
mouse
scotch
second
by
councilman
miranda,
all
a
favor
we'll
see
you
all
at
501.