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From YouTube: CRA Special Call 10-19-22
Description
A Special Call Community Redevelopment Agency meeting to interview finalists for the CRA Director position.
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A
B
A
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Absolutely
absolutely
this
is
a
special
call.
Meeting
of
the
city
of
Tampa
community
redevelopment
agency
or
the
CRA
held
at
nine
o'clock,
am
on
October
19
2022
at
the
Tampa
Convention
Center
rooms
107
through
109
333,
South,
Franklin
Street,
here
in
Tampa
Florida
for
the
purpose
of
interviewing
the
final
candidates
for
the
position
of
CRA
director.
This
public
meeting
pertains
solely
to
the
public
interviews
of
the
final
four
candidates.
D
The
selection
of
the
CRA
director
will
occur
one
week
from
today
on
Wednesday
October
26
2022
at
another
special
call
meeting
of
the
CRA
at
the
Tampa
Convention
Center.
The
public
is
able
to
attend
this
meeting
in
person
or
view
it
by
cable,
television
on
Spectrum,
Channel,
640
or
Frontier,
channel
15
or
by
the
internet
via
www.campa.gov
live
stream.
D
The
public
is
also
able
to
participate
in
this
meeting
during
public
comment
for
a
maximum
of
three
minutes
per
speaker,
either
here
in
person
at
the
Tampa
Convention
Center
or
virtually
by
way
of
communication,
media
technology
or
CMT.
However,
the
use
of
CMT
does
require
pre-registration
with
the
city
clerk's
office.
Directions
for
pre-registration
are
included
in
the
notice
of
the
meeting
and
on
the
agenda
can
I.
Please
have
a
motion
waving
the
CRA
standard
rules
for
procedures
to
allow
public
comment
and
participation
by
CMT.
Thank
you.
A
E
Good
morning
board
members,
Nicole
Travis
administrative
development
and
Economic
Opportunity
and
interim
CRA
director.
Thank
you
for
scheduling
the
special
call
meeting
to
do
the
public
interview
of
the
candidates.
We
do
have
a
meet
and
greet
social.
There
is
no
interviewing
of
the
candidates
that
will
take
place
this
evening.
The
social
will
be
here
at
the
convention
center
next
door
in
rooms,
105
and
106..
That
will
take
place
at
6,
00
PM.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
the
publics
to
get
to
know
the
candidates
in
a
social
setting.
There
will
be
Refreshments
provided
this
evening.
E
Also,
if
there's
any
member
of
the
public
that
parked
in
the
parking
garage,
we
do
have
a
coupon
code
that
we
can
pay
for
their
parking
if
they
came
to
attend
the
meeting
today
and
so
how
we're
recommending
that
we
move
forward
for
the
interviews
today.
If
you
want
the
candidates
to
introduce
yourselves
prior
to
or
we
can
take
them
in
alphabetical
order,
take
each
candidate
it's
a
public
meeting.
The
candidates
are
free
to
stay
if
they
would
like
to,
but
if
we
would
respectfully
ask
them
to
be
if
they
would
leave
the
room.
E
So
that
we
can
interview,
you
can
have
an
opportunity
to
interview
the
candidates.
They
can
then
come
back,
make
their
presentation
just
introduce
themselves
a
little
background
on
their
work
experience
and
then
open
it
up
for
questions
from
the
CRA
board
at
that
time,
when
the
candidates
are
finished,
with
the
questions
they're
free
to
go
until
the
social
this
afternoon
at
6
PM.
So
if
you
like
that
order,
that's
how
I
will
suggest
the.
E
E
F
E
F
A
F
F
A
F
C
With
this.
This
new
director,
not
just
because
East
Tampa,
is
a
marginalized
Community,
but
because
we
only
have
10
years
to
do
whatever
needs
to
be
done.
So
we've
seen
what
the
lack
of
experience,
the
lack
of
Competency,
the
lack
of
political
will,
the
lack
of
willingness
being
lazy.
What
that
looks
like
because
we've
seen
that
for
this
last
director
and
the
last
staff,
what
have
you
so
this
new
hire?
It's
so
important
that
they
have
the
willingness
they
have
the
desire.
They
have
compassion.
They
have
passion
to
see.
C
East
Tampa
grow
into
the
have
an
economic
development
engine
have
housing
the
appropriate
amount
of
affordable,
not
affordable,
mix,
the
retail
just
a
sense
of
community
so
that
it
could
one
day
be
self-sustained,
especially
since
there
won't
be
any
more
CR
involvement.
So
you
know
just
looking
at
some
of
the
candidates.
I
know
they
can
do
it.
It's
just
which
one
is
tough
because
which
one
is
the
right
one,
but
somebody
that
has
all
of
that,
in
addition
to
the
experience,
and
that
would
be
a
compliment
to
the
leadership.
C
Sorry,
the
leadership
that's
already
in
place,
so
you
have
a
Nicole
Travis.
That
brings
exceptional
leadership
to
the
to
this,
to
the
Tampa
as
a
whole,
but
particularly
the
East
Tampa.
And
then
you
have
an
Elise
drum
goal.
We
would
hope
that
the
person
would
also
complement
that
style
of
leadership
so
that
we
can
be.
C
You
know
it
would
be
basically
be
able
to
complement
that
and
enhance
where
we
are
already
so
they'll
be
able
to
develop
the
staff
I
think
that
doesn't
necessarily
have
the
skill
sets
necessary
so
that
they're
not
overworked
trying
to
develop
the
new
hire
director
and
develop
the
staff.
So
it's
just
so
important
that
you
know
there's
a
sense
of
urgency
and
we
need
a
lot
of
course
correction
to
bring
us
up
to
speed.
C
It's,
like
all,
cras
are
important,
but
this
one
is
like
your
special
needs
child
because
it
has
so
many
different
facets
of
development
that
it
needs
it's
behind
so
far,
so
we
just
need
somebody
with
that
level
of
skill
set
and
and
the
right
amount
of
willingness
to
do
so
on
this
new
hire.
So
I
wouldn't
I,
don't
any
of
their
view,
because
it's
a
tough
selection,
but
that's
all
I
have
to
say
for
the
candidates
too
bad
we're
not
looking
at
them.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
E
Good
morning,
Allison
Hewitt
resident
of
East
Tampa
third
generation
like
to
thank
you
for
moving
on
this
position.
We
really
appreciate
this
and
I'm
asking
that
you
consider
when
you're,
considering
the
candidates,
one
as
I
learned
at
the
fra
conference
when
the
East
Tampa,
if
you
vote
to
extend
it,
only
has
10
more
years
for
their
lifetime
to
be
a
CRA.
So
we
are
hoping
that
you
select
someone
who
understands
that.
That's
not
a
long
time,
10
years.
It
has
a
point.
E
In
fact
it
has
taken
us
two
years
to
get
to
the
point
where
we
can
have
a
homeowner
occupied
rehab
program.
So
that's
two
years
that
are
behind
so
we're
asking
that
you
consider
for
the
East
Tampa
CRA,
someone
who
has
the
talent
and
the
know-how
to
be
able
to
implement
projects
for
the
other
CIA
Central
Park.
As
the
Gas
Works
comes
along.
E
It
is
a
Wonder
beautiful
project
for
the
area,
but
someone
who
also
can
commit
to
remembering
the
other
diverse
entities
that
help
make
that
area
the
Haitian
Community
the
Italian
Community
the
African-American
community.
So
we
can
make
sure
that
we
are
developing
all
areas
of
that
Arena
and
for
those
in
downtown
and
Channelside,
which
are
the
poster
child
of.
E
Why
and
how
a
CRA
can
work
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that,
as
they
are
transitioning
to
their
growth,
that
they
do
it
in
a
fair
way,
in
a
compassionate
way
for
those
who
are
still
in
those
areas
who
might
not
have
enjoyed
the
robust
and
extensive
birth
over
there
in
downtown
and
Channelside.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
an
easy
decision.
E
I've
seen
some
of
your
choices
and
they
have
a
significant
skill
set.
But
I
think
one
of
the
main
challenges
is
how
to
navigate
the
city
politics
in
the
city
processes,
someone
who
can
understand
and
tactfully
push
things
through
because
again
example:
home
unoccupied,
rehab.
It's
been
two
years:
we
you
know
it's
been
just
dragging
along,
so
someone
who
also
knows
how
to
balance
the
passion
for
the
community
and
the
expertise
to
go
through
the
government
process.
So
thank
you
again
for
moving
on
this.
A
E
Thank
you,
and
so
with
the
conclusion
of
the
public
comments.
We
would
like
the
candidates,
if
they're
willing
to
excuse
themselves
from
the
room,
we'll
start
with
Jeffrey
Burton
and
go
in
alphabetical
order
by
last
name.
The
other
candidates
can
go
to
the
waiting
area
that
they
were
in
or
to
the
room
next
door
Diaz
out
here.
They
can
escort
them
out
if
they
are
willing
to
to
go.
B
Off
by
thank
you,
Miss
Travis,
for
putting
this
together
short
notice.
We
know
it's
very
time
consuming
with
all
the
duties
that
you
have
in
some
of
the
other
staff
that
you
pull
from
from
the
other
administrators,
some
of
the
executive
aides,
to
do
the
interviews
yesterday.
So
let
me
just
publicly
say
thank
you
for
putting
us
together
in
a
short
period
of
time,
absolutely.
E
H
Just
just
to
add
to
that
before
you
start
with
that,
the
actual
work
you
know
we
gave
you
the
general
direction
on
a
process,
but
you
and
your
team
put
together
an
incredibly
professional,
thorough
process.
So
I
appreciate
everybody,
because
you
know
like
at
least
and
several
other,
your
staff
members
step
sat
through
every
interview,
and
that
was
that
was
all
very
helpful.
So
thank
you
to
your
whole
team.
Thank.
E
You
very
much
again
just
a
reminder
for
anyone
from
the
public
that
did
park
in
the
parking
garage.
If
you
need
a
voucher.
The
voucher
code
come
see
me
so
that
we
can
waive
your
parking
requirements
with
that
you're
a
candidate
Jeffrey,
Burton
I'll.
Let
him
come
up
here
and
Jeffrey
can
start
by
introducing
himself
giving
you
some
work
history
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
for
questions.
I
Good
morning,
thank
you
for
having
me
here.
My
name
is
Jeff.
Burton
I've
been
a
CRA
director
for
over
10
years
with
that
10
years
of
experience
as
a
director
also
four
years
as
an
elected
official
over
a
CRA
and
then
also
just
about
a
year
working
here
in
the
city
of
Tampa,
with
four
out
of
your
eight
cras.
I
My
background
is
I
was
born
in
the
Tampa
Bay
area
in
Manatee,
County
I,
attended,
School
locally
and
went
to
USF
for
my
bachelor's
in
economics,
my
Master's
in
public
administration
and
my
PhD
in
sustainable
Redevelopment
other
than
that.
If
you
have
any
questions,
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
them.
Also.
F
Thank
you
very
much,
sir
and
I'll
say
this
to
all
the
candidates.
Thank
you
for
stepping
up
and
applying
everyone
is
uniquely
qualified
with
with
equally
impressive
resumes
I
I
looked
at
your
resume.
I
met
with
you.
Yesterday
we
spoke
at
length.
You
have
a
PhD
in
philosophy.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
sir,
but
specifically
in
studying
everything
from
the
the
urban
cores
to
urban
renewal
to
you
know:
I,
look
at
it
as
a
how
cities
have
changed.
Across
America
post-world,
War
II.
We
spoke
about
this
yesterday.
You
had
your
dissertation
there.
F
You
know
communities
have
changed,
Tampa
has
changed
in
the
last
half
century
plus.
What
I
appreciated
yesterday
was
saying
that
you've
made
this
part
of
your
life
in
your
career
and
studying
Tampa
I.
Don't
feel
that
it's,
it's
absolutely
necessary
and
critical,
that
the
person
needs
to
be
from
Tampa,
but
the
person
should
have
an
understanding
of
our
city
or
be
willing
and
open
to
learning
our
city.
As
you
know,
we
have
multiple
cras.
East
Tampa
is
the
biggest
one
in
East.
Tampa,
in
my
opinion,
is
the
one
that
needs
most
help.
F
We've
seen
the
cra's
success
in
downtown
in
the
channel
district,
West
Tampa
being
a
newer
CRA.
We
see
the
successes
there,
but
east
Tampa,
historically
being
in
my
opinion,
forgotten
and
which
needs
the
most
help
being
that
it
is
the
largest.
But
at
the
same
time
you
go
east
of
the
internet,
east
east
of
the
interstate,
not
the
internet,
east
of
the
interstate
to
the
city
limits.
It's
such
a
it's
such
a
I,
don't
know,
there's
so
much
opportunity
there
and
what
we
see
from
public
common
is
a
lot
of
people
that
live
in.
F
That
Community
are
asking
for
help.
Why
is
it
that
other
communities
are
succeeding?
Why
do
we
have
stronger
middle
class
and
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
but
we
don't
have
that
Equity
all
throughout
where
East
Tampa
deserves
being
that
it's
the
biggest
Sierra
East
Tampa
deserves
the
same
respect
and
investment
that
other
cras
that
have
have
succeeded
and
flourished
so
much
so
it's
not
so
much
a
question.
It's
it's
a
statement,
but
again
an
appreciation
that
you
know.
You've
studied
this.
F
You've
studied
Community
communities,
not
just
Tampa
but
all
throughout
Florida,
and
you
understand
the
consequences
of
decisions
that
were
made
in
the
past,
but
also
how
we
can
move
forward
together
and
make
better
decisions
in
lifting
everyone
up.
So
we
have
Equity
across
the
board
for
everyone
in
our
city.
Thank
you.
A
J
B
What
I
have
a
few
questions?
What
I
want
to
know
what's
wrong
with
Tampa's
cra?
That's
what
the
question
that
people
want
to
know.
Others
are
thriving
other
or
not.
Well,
in
my
mind,
I
already
know
the
answer
being
a
retired
police
officer
in
the
city,
no
one
gave
a
damn
and
I
know
that,
because
it
never
moved.
So
what
is
the
problem?
You
see
what
our
CRA
as
a
whole
and
moving
East
Tampa.
I
I
I
cannot
claim
to
have
a
first-hand
knowledge
of
the
culture,
the
history,
but
what
I
can
do
is
respect
that
culture
in
history
I
can
learn
about
it,
which
I
have
done
through
my
studies.
Learning
about
the
urban
renewal
in
the
1950s
learning
about
Progress,
Village,
Park
and
and
the
movement
out
learning
about
Central
Avenue
and
what
Central
Avenue
was
why
it
existed
because
of
Jim
Crow
laws,
how
it
was
built,
why
it
was
why
it
was
basically
destroyed.
I
I
My
grandfather
was
a
a
seagulling
tug,
a
ship
captain,
and
we
would
deliver
him
to
the
port
when
I
was
a
child
and
you
could
see
what
and
you
all
know
what
Channel
District
was.
It
was
a
maritime
industrial
plant
and
now
it's
something
that's
completely
different
and
it's
been
redeveloped
speaking
directly
about
East
Tampa.
First
of
all,
I've
looked
at
the
the
longevity
of
all
the
series,
all
eight
of
them.
I
We
shared
all
that
with
you
yesterday
and
East
Tampa
is
due
to
because
of
a
2014
agreement
with
Hillsborough
County
is
due
to
wind
down
in
2034.
It
was
created
in
2004
after
the
2002
amendment
to
this
to
the
statute,
which
gives
it
40
years.
If
you
followed
the
statute,
but
this
is
a
charter
County,
so
you
have
an
agreement
between
the
county
and
the
the
city.
I
I
think
that
has
the
the
strongest
case.
Why
isn't
East
Tampa
moving
forward?
It's
it's
to
me!
It's
simple
working
cras
for
the
better
part
of
a
decade
or
more
than
a
decade,
the
the
most
efficiency,
the
most
productivity.
The
most
success
has
come
when
you
have
a
plan.
That
plan
is
required
by
Statute
the
CRA
plan.
Thus
the
CRP,
as
you
call
it
in
Tampa
those
plans
should
be
updated.
I
I
I
Okay,
the
most
success
I
have
ever
had
as
a
CRA
director
was
creating
a
new
plan
implementing
that
plan,
keeping
everybody's
feet
to
that
plan
and
making
sure
that
we
followed
the
plan
and
if
we
had
changes
which
we
will
We
update,
the
plan
updates
are
usually
a
lot
easier
once
you
get
the
new
plan
in
place,
but
we
have
to
have
a
plan.
It
has
to
be
vetted
by
the
community
in
downtown
we're
currently
updating
that
plan.
I
I
So
we
have
to
have
this
working
relationship
where
it's
as
if
even
if
the
cras
are
not
underneath
her,
it's
as
if
we
have
that
relationship
we're
that
close,
that
we
do
because
development
services,
the
the
all
the
engineering
and
everything
that
goes
along
with
development
services
getting
permits
through
the
process.
We've
we've
had
problems
with
that.
We
need
to
straighten
those
things
out.
We
also
need
to
look
at
your
your
programs.
You
currently
have
keep
them
going,
but
we
need
to
streamline
them
so
that
they
are
not
so
intricate
and
so
detailed.
I
I
In
that
particular
case,
we
have
to
really
be
careful
and
mindful
of
managing
gentrification,
it's
easy
to
redevelop
channel
District
when
there
aren't
that
many
residents
there
to
begin
with
it's
mostly
industrial
and
we're
building
for
new
residents.
But
we
don't
want
to.
We
don't
want
to
do
the
same
thing.
We
did
with
Central
Avenue
and
remove
a
whole
culture
and
a
whole
history.
I
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
Embrace
that
culture,
that
history
and
that's
one
of
the
things
in
my
studies
about
Tampa
that
I
love
the
most
was
the
the
whole
music
and
the
whole
vibe
of
Central
Avenue
and
as
Central
Parks
manager.
We
have
worked
very
hard
to
make
sure
that,
with
the
Johnson
homes,
with
Paradise,
Baptist
Church
to
really
Embrace
that
and
guess
what
your
CRA
plan
in
that
area
tells
us
to
do
exactly
that.
So
East
Tampa
can
be
successful.
East
Tampa
can
move
forward.
I
It's
not
going
to
require
a
director
that
just
directs
it's
going
to
require
someone
that
that
gets
with
the
manager
and
helps
push
that
forward
themselves
and
helps
train
that
manager
and
that
staff.
One
thing
you
will
find
out
about
me
is
I'm
a
strong
believer
in
education,
especially
professional
education,
and
pushing
for
certification
and
teaching
redundancy
in
in
the
department
so
that,
if,
if
one
person
leaves
we
have
backup
immediately,
thank.
B
You
yes,
sir
just
final
question:
your
first
90
days,
I'm
hungry
everybody's
heard
me
say
that
word.
That
means
that
I
I
need
work
done,
I
need
things
moving
and
I'm.
Looking
for
a
Siri
director,
that's
going
to
be
hungry,
like
Miss,
Travis
and
Mr
drunk
or
tell
me
how
hungry
you
are
and
within
your
first
90
days
what
what
would
work
we
accomplish,
how
we
move
forward
so.
I
So
that's
a
that's
a
question.
That's
similar
to
bringing
in
a
new
computer
system.
You
have
an
existing
system
in
place
with
all
of
your
cras.
Is
it
the
best
system,
I
think
they
can
be
improved?
Everything
can
always
be
improved.
We
want
to
bring
in
a
new
system,
but
you
have
to
keep
the
old
system
running
while
you
bring
in
the
new
system
and
you
have
to
run
them
both
at
the
same
time.
I
So
as
far
as
hunger
is
concerned,
I've
spent
my
entire
adult
life
to
be
here
today,
I
spent
years
at
the
University
learning
about
this
I
spent
years
doing
all
kinds
of
pro
my
whole
certification
all
the
way
up
through
the
association.
This
is
not
what
I
do.
This
is
what
I'm
called
to
do.
I
wouldn't
want
to
do
anything
else.
If
you
said,
would
you
like
to
be
a
city
manager
which
I
have
been
asked
to
be
in
other
cities?
I
would
say
no
I
want
to
be
the
Redevelopment
director.
I
B
B
For
me
and
for
this
board,
I
think
every
council,
members
or
or
board
member
needs
to
attend
that
conference.
Everyone
around
the
country
says
I'm
not
talking
about
the
housing.
Commons
says
that
the
f1r
conference
is
the
best
conference
and
I'm
telling
you.
We
learn
things
that
we
should
be
doing
that
we're
not
doing.
We
learn
rules
that
we
should
not
be
doing
a
lot
of
things
and
we
should
be
doing
other
things
and
so
I'm
saying
that
gentlemen.
B
Ladies,
you
need
to
go
to
that
conference
to
see
how
it
actually
is
supposed
to
work
and
I'm
I'm
glad
that
we
had
our
people
there
from
each
one,
I
see
a
raise
to
actually
see
and
I
think
they're
gonna
those
committee
members
and
CeCe
person
that
went
will
probably
come
back
talking
about
things
we
need
to
be
doing.
So.
Thank
you
for
the
conference.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
quick
question
for
legal
Morris.
Are
we
required
to
ask
exactly
the
same
questions
for
a
very
candidate?
Can
we
ask
individuals?
Thank
you.
You
talked
about
the
CRPS
or
the
CRA
plans.
Yes,
when
we
started
three
and
a
half
years
ago,
we
I
think
unanimously
requested
that
those
plans
be
updated
and,
as
you
mentioned,
they
have
not.
H
We
also
made
it
I
think
unanimous
decision
two
two
and
a
half
years
ago
to
spend
up
to
30
percent
of
the
CRA
money
across
the
board
on
affordable
housing,
and
that
also
didn't
happen,
and
we
and
and
Elise
and
Nicole
had
just
been
telling
the
cacs
and
they're
surprised
and
shock
because
they
just
found
out
in
the
last
30
days.
They
didn't
know
that
we
did
this
two
and
a
half
years
ago.
So
I
have
two
questions.
H
I
First
of
all,
when,
when
the
board
makes
a
decision,
one
thing
I
have
learned
in
Tampa
is
when
the
board
makes
a
motion,
and
this
board
tends
to
make
a
lot
of
motions.
They
are
written
down.
I've
I've
watched
this
happen.
Firsthand
some
of
the
Motions
were
brought
to
us,
for
instance
the
30
percent
up
to
30
percent.
I
I
You
know
you
never
want
to
use
it
never,
but
you
shouldn't
use
the
word
should
or
could
or
would,
unless
it's
really
something
you
have
to
do
when
it
comes
to
what
the
board
desires
I
was
asked,
am
I
willing
to
say
no
to
board
and
I
said
yes,
especially
if
it's
something
that
is
something
that's
not
right,
but
at
the
same
time
I'm
the
person
you
can
come
to
to
make
to
see.
If
we
can
do
it
and
if
we
can
do
it,
we
need
to
make
adjustments
in
our
policies,
but.
H
How
the
question
is
more
like:
how
would
you
actually
get
it
done?
How
and-
and
maybe
you
know
have
some
insights
to
know
why
it
didn't
happen,
but
but
so
these
are
things
that
we
voted
on
and
they're
more
than
just
these,
but
we
vote
on
them.
We
said
we
want
them,
but
it
just
didn't
happen.
How
would
you
make
sure
that
it
gets
done
well
make.
I
Sure
it
gets
done.
I'd
have
a
policy
with
my
staff
that,
whatever
the
board
made
a
motion
that
was
a
valid
motion
to
make,
according
to
the
statute
and
the
plan
that
we
have
those
committed
electronically,
using
teams
or
using
Outlook,
to
make
sure
that
we
document
these
things
and
we
set
a
date
for
them
to
be
brought
back
to
the
board,
even
though
the
board
usually
gives
us
a
date
to
bring
them
back
and
make
sure
we
meet
those
calendar
items
when
it
comes
to
the
30
percent.
I
You
know.
The
interesting
thing
is:
is
that
as
soon
as
it
was
brought
to
our
attention,
especially
my
attention
I
started
sending
feedback
back
to
the
the
director
and
Elise
on
different
ways
that
we
could
legally
move
those
things
forward
to
get
back
to
the
board.
So
you
know
that
it
was
being
worked
on,
so
what
we
would
do
is
we
would
listen
intently
to
what
the
what
the
board's
motion
is,
the
majority
of
the
board.
I
H
Second,
second
related
question:
is
you
board
member
Maniscalco
went
through
your
education
and
you
obviously
have
a
lot
of
great
education,
economics,
public
administration
philosophy,
and
then
you
have
experience.
Can
you
give
us
some
examples,
though,
of
your
leadership?
Were
you
able
to
decisively
push
through
whatever
the
noise
was
and
get
things
done?
The.
I
First
example,
I
will
give
you
is
when
I
first
came
to
the
City
of
Palmetto,
they
were
in
a
similar
situation.
They
had
a
plan
from
1993
for
their
CRA.
The
plan
needed
to
be
updated.
I
wrote
it
myself
because
it
was,
it
would
just
be
easier
to
do
it
in-house.
It's
only
a
five
million
dollar
CRA,
so
it's
not
like
downtown
or
Channel
District.
I
So
the
and
it's
not
eight
series,
it's
just
one
Theory
so
wrote
the
plan
getting
the
plan
through
the
system,
and
this
was
in
an
un.
This
was
in
an
unchartered
County,
which
makes
it
a
lot
easier.
It
was
harder
to
get
my
board
to
approve
a
new
plan,
but
in
the
end
we
brought
forward
a
number
of
different
cities
like
Satellite
Beach,
Florida,
Daytona,
Beach,
Florida
Braden
in
Florida
that
had
been
audited
by
the
state
and
showed
them
that
one
of
the
audit
items
was
that
you
need
to
have
your.
G
I
It's
down
the
street
from
one
of
the
city
council
members
homes.
He
fought
us
the
entire
way
on
on
the
project,
but
luckily,
for
me,
I
understand
boards
I've
sat
on
boards
and
he
was
one
voice
and
he
was
a
single
voice.
So,
yes,
we
were
definitely
chastised
by
that
board.
Member
for
for
doing
this
project
so
close
to
his
home,
but
the
rest
of
the
board
wanted
the
project
done.
One
of
the
ways
we
got
it
done
was
was
that
fdep
came
down
to
the
city.
I
I
Then
we
move
forward
and
we
move
forward
with
all
expediency
and
we
also
try
and
layer
so
that
we're
not
just
getting
one
item
for
our
dollar.
If
we
can
find
grants,
if
we
can
apply
other
funds
that
we
can,
we
can
go
after
like
State
revolving
loan
funds,
then
we
will
do
that
so
that
we
get
the
most
out
of
our
redevelopments
and.
H
H
You
just
ask
what
you
need
one
other,
quick
question
board.
Member
mascalco
asked
you
about
your
philosophy
studies,
but
a
lot
of
people
that
work
in
CA
cras
either
have
a
real
estate
background
or
have
or
studied
economic
development.
But
your
undergrad
is
in
economics
and
and
my
minor
was
in
economics,
so
I
wonder
what
what
different
perspective
would
you
bring
to
the
table
by
having
an
economics
degree
versus
one
of
the
others?
Okay,.
I
So
it's
it's
simple,
in
fact,
all
of
my
experience,
even
the
four
years
when
I
was
22
years
of
age
on
a
city
council
that
that
has
my
that
experience
follows
me.
Throughout
my
entire
career,
the
economics
degree
I've
used
that
in
Palmetto
in
and
mainly
in
Fort
Myers
prior
to
the
storm
I
consulted
to
them.
While
I
was
working
in
Palmetto
and
the
whole
idea
was
to
work
on
their
incentives
that
they
would
they
would
bring
in
for
businesses
and
when
I
got
there,
they
were.
I
They
were
handing
over
85
percent
of
the
increment
created
from
the
new
construction
to
the
businesses,
which
I
disagreed
with.
We
created
a
basically
a
a
a
a
score
based
on
cap
rates
that
determine
whether
the
city
actually
needed
to
give
an
incentive
or
not
was
the
the
pump
primed
or
did
they
need
the
prime
that
pump
for
the
incentives
and
when
I,
when
I
got
there,
they
they
were
just
maybe
in
the
beginning
of
the
upturn
in
the
economy
and
about
halfway
through.
I
We
explained
to
them
that
no,
you
do
not
need
to
add
incentives
to
have
developers
come
in
in
Tampa,
downtown,
Channel
District.
You
do
not
need
those
incentives
to
bring
the
developers.
I
can
tell
you
that
firsthand
don't
need
them
and
I
and
and
I've
got
spreadsheets
that
show
exactly
how
to
do
them
in
East
Tampa.
I
That's
not
the
case
in
East
Tampa,
but
you
have
to
determine
what
it
is.
You
want
to
go
in
there.
What
it
is
the
community
wants
to
go
in
there.
How
are
we
going
to
maintain
that
Community
atmosphere
and
not
bring
in
the
gentrifying
effects
and
we're
going
to
protect
the
community
while
we're
doing
it
and
I
would
tell
you
that
of
all
your
series,
the
one
you
definitely
need,
and
it's
not
a
subsidy,
because
that
was
mentioned
yesterday.
A
subsidy
is
when
you
give
somebody
something
for
nothing
in
return.
I
An
incentive
is
when
yes,
we're
working
with
the
private
sector,
but
in
return
they
are
going
to
provide
something,
whether
it's
jobs,
whether
it's
increased
mitigation
for
high
winds,
you
name
it
in
Fort
Myers.
It
was
mbewbe.
We
had
a
15
requirement
that
the
developer
had
to
bring
in
if
they
wanted
the
incentive,
and
they
also
had
a
non-profit
investment,
five
percent
of
the
money
they
received
every
year.
I
So
I
would
tell
you
that
my
economics
degree
helps
me
to
determine
a
cost-benefit
analysis
for
the
board.
If
we
do
something
like
that,
how
much
money
are
we
going
to
be
asked
to
invest
in
this
number
one?
How
long
will
it
be
before
we
get
our
return
on
our
investment
in
years
and
remember,
right
now,
11
years
in
East,
we're
going
to
talk
about
East
Tampa
is
not
a
long
time
in
Redevelopment.
Okay,
it
is
not.
You
can't
go
out
and
bond
money.
Well,
you
can,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
short-term
Bond.
I
I
mean
we
need
that
extension
and
we
need
to
talk
about
how
to
incentivize
the
right
uses
the
right
and
the
right
incentives
to
get
things
rolling
that
the
community
will
agree
with,
and
then
we
move
forward
with
that.
One
thing
I
will
say
is:
is
that
and
I
preach
this
all
the
time?
Cras
do
not
spend
taxes,
they
spend
increment
Revenue.
I
There
were
two
lawsuits
in
the
State
of
Florida
at
the
state
supreme
court
level,
one
in
1980
and
one
in
19,
2007
The
Strain
case.
That
says
that.
So
we
have
the
ability
to
reach
out
past
the
Florida
Constitution
and
work
directly
with
the
private
sector,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
cras
are
so
unique
when
I
got
here.
I
didn't
quite
see
that
in
Tampa
I
realized
it
wasn't
necessary
in
parts
of
Tampa,
because
Tampa
has
a
strong
economy,
but
then
I
realized
in
other
parts
of
Tampa.
A
It's
a
good
question.
Yes
for
fun,
we
had
the
CAC
members
come
here
and
talk
about
pushing
things
through
and
historically
at
least
when
I
came
along
the
biggest
problem.
We
have
is
communication
with
our
community
members,
the
CAC,
the
board,
the
staff,
and
then
yesterday,
though,
we
one
of
the
questions
I
asked
was
was
how
you
handle
disagreements,
and
you
mentioned
when
you
have
a
difference
of
an
opinion
on
subject
matter
or
approach.
You
talked
about
white
papers
and
emails.
I
I
We
just
need
to
get
that
information
out
and
make
sure
that
when
the
board
makes
a
decision,
they
have
all
the
information
they
need
and
most
times
it's
when
I,
when
I
do
something
like
that,
it's
not
an
opinion.
It
is
based
on
verbiage.
Out
of
the
plan
verbiage
out
of
the
statute,
I
will
talk
to
the
City
attorney
before
we
even
go
any
further.
You
know
here
in
Tampa,
I've
learned
that
you
know
this
City
attorney.
I
If
you
give
him
a
very
thoughtful
one
page
opinion
of
what
you
feel
he'll
read
it
and
he'll
send
it
back
to
you
and
he'll
even
say:
nope
I
disagree
with
you,
and
this
is
why,
usually
it
doesn't
go
past
that,
because
once
the
attorney
has
made
the
decision,
that's
it.
But
I
was
in
a
situation
where
the
CRA
attorney
was
also
the
City
attorney
appointed
by
the
mayor,
and
my
attorney
was
sitting
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
table.
I
I
Was
that
put
the
responsibility
of
the
decision
on
the
board
in
the
event
at
some
later
date,
if
it
was
determined
that
it
was
not
appropriate,
I
was
trying
to
protect
the
board
while
I
was
trying
to
protect
myself
and
I
have
found
when
I
do
that
that
usually
that
decision
doesn't
get
made,
but
it
doesn't
have
to
be
something
that's
brought
out.
It
just
needs
to
be
communicated,
educated
and,
like
I
said,
I
have
not
had
that
experience
here.
I
have
found
in
Tampa.
I
If
I
have
an
issue
and
I
communicate
with
the
attorney
and
I
give
him
all
the
information
he
needs,
he
will
respond
back
with
with
you
know:
you'll
read
it
and
come
back
and
say:
I
see
where
you're
going
with
this.
In
fact,
the
one
time
we've
done
it,
he
told
me
I
was
wrong
and
I'm
like,
and
he
taught
me
something
I
didn't
know
about
2019.
so
and
it
stopped
right
there,
because
that's
the
attorney
and
he's
the
legal
expert.
Not
me
I'm,
not
an
attorney.
A
I
Comes
from
communication-
and
it
usually
comes
from
compromise
when
I
look
at
the
board,
I
see
votes,
I,
don't
see,
personalities,
I
see
how
many
votes
are
supportive.
You
know
it's
not
hard
to
read
the
board
during
a
meeting
you.
You
communicate
very
well
your
positions
if
the
board,
for
instance,
I
brought
up
at
one
meeting,
don't
get
mad
at
me
councilman
the
word
pace.
I
The
board
is
the
ultimate
decision
and
later
on,
if
I
have
an
opportunity
in
time
and
you
have
time
to
sit
down
and
go
over
pace
and
other
types
of
products
that
could
bring
alternative
energy
to
the
city.
I'd
love
to
do
that.
But
it's
not
my
opinion
that
matters.
It's
the
board's
decision
that
matters.
I
My
job
is
to
make
sure
you
have
all
the
information,
the
community,
that's
where
the
cacs
come
in,
and
the
managers
work
with
the
cacs
I
work
with
the
managers
and
the
community,
and
then
we
turn
around
and
present
it
to
the
board.
Does
the
board
always
side
with
the
cacs?
No
I
think
there
was
another
case
where
we
brought
forward
a
3.6
million
dollar
purchase
of
a
piece
of
property.
It
was
obvious
that
the
board
was
going
to
vote
for
it
this
last
time.
I
That's
exactly
the
message
we
got
when
I
went
back
to
the
CAC
and
said
they
want
to
buy
another
piece
of
property.
I
said
you
can
try,
it
I'll
send
it
forward.
That's
my
job,
but
I
guarantee
you.
That
board
is
probably
going
to
vote
against
it
because
they
told
us
at
the
last
meeting
that
this
was
the
one
time
they
would
do
it.
They
don't
feel
comfortable
purchasing
property
at
that
level.
I
So
it's
it's
all
about
communication.
It's
also
about
education.
I,
don't
know
everything
there
is
to
know
about
cras.
I
know
a
lot,
but
if
I
know
something
I
need
to
make
sure
you're
aware
of
it
that
the
communities
and
by
the
time
it
gets
to
me
to
come
to
the
board
that
it's
been
vetted
in
the
community,
for
instance
Jackson
The,
Jackson
house.
I
Yes,
you
know:
I,
have
multiple
ideas
on
how
to
help
resolve
that
problem.
But
after
talking
with
the
owners
of
the
Jackson
house,
you
do
not
want
to
move
the
house.
Most
of
those
ideas
went
away
because
we
have
to
stay
with
that
piece
of
property.
So
we
continue
to
work
with
the
folks
at
the
Jackson
house.
Keep
the
board
informed.
I
We
move
the
million
dollars
into
the
budget
and
it
will
stay
there
and
we
just
have
to
keep
working
it
and
at
the
same
time
we
inform
the
people
that
own
the
house
at
some
point,
you're
going
to
need
to
make
a
decision,
whether
to
sacrifice
the
house
or
we
need
to
consider-
maybe
moving
it
and-
and
they
said
they
weren't
interested
in
that-
and
we
respect
that.
But
at
some
point,
if
we
want
to
save
that
house,
we
might
have
to
do
something
that
that
they
don't
want
to
do
that.
I
H
At
least
half
the
story
is
that
it
was,
is
that
African-Americans
could
not
stay
in
white
hotels
and
they
walked
across
the
street
from
the
from
the
end,
and
so
the
the
an
example,
the
Motions
that
we
made
and
we
all
approved
there
were
three
or
four
Alternatives
and
I.
We
haven't
had
a
CRA
meeting
in
in
a
month,
but
I
expect
at
some
point
soon
we're
going
to
get
some
more
answers
as
to
what
our
offers
were.
Are
we
offered
to
buy
it?
H
We
offered
to
buy
the
land
next
to
it
and
I
forgot
what
the
other
one
was.
Oh,
we
offered
to
start
the
process
to
rebuild
it
in
place,
but
all
of
them
required
just
keeping
it
there
right
and
I
think.
Ultimately,
the
decision
is
that
the
foundation
that
owns
it
is
going
to
have
to
either
is
going
to
have
to
sell
it
to
us
or
it's
going
to
fall
down,
because
only
the
city
can
do
the
things
we
need
to
do
to
save
it.
That's
a
discussion
for
another
day,
but.
I
To
answer
your
previous
question
about
what
would
I
do
in
order
to
get
things
moving
forward
as
soon
as
that,
those
Mo
and
those
motions
were
beautiful
motions
by
the
way,
because
it
gave
us
the
ability
now
to
move
forward
and
talk
to
them.
What
did
we
do?
We
sat
down,
we
had
the
meeting
we
talked
to
them.
We
asked
them
all
the
questions
we
even
threw
in
some
Alternatives
of.
Did
you
think
of
this?
I
I
E
A
E
K
Thank
you
very
much
good
morning,
Madam
chair
members
of
the
board.
My
name
is
David.
David
Barilla
and
I
currently
serve
as
the
assistant
director
of
both
the
Downtown
Development
board
and
community
redevelopment
agency
in
Orlando
Florida.
So
I
have
had
the
pleasure
of
working
with
that
group
for
just
over
12
years,
10
of
those
serving
as
the
assistant
director.
Where
holistically
we
have
over
five
cras
that
come
under
my
purview.
It
really
function
as
three,
two
of
which
are
kind
of
the
term.
K
We
work
on
autopilot
because
they're
very
focused
in
their
context,
but
our
downtown,
which
is
a
compromise
of
three
different
cras
which
we
overall
manage,
is
focused
on
all
things:
everything
from
affordable
housing
to
a
clean
team.
That
makes
sure
it
is
presentable
to
to
all
who
choose
to
visit.
So
as
I
mentioned
I
when
I
originally
started
there,
I
came
in
as
an
economic
development
coordinator.
I
was
fortunate
to
have
the
opportunity
to
grow,
to
a
large
extent,
I
Target,
that
on
my
initial
outtake,
when
I
got
to
that
position.
K
Well
was
that
of
was
energy
and
getting
things
done
and
I
think
that
was
noticed
when
this
position
came
available.
So
I
was
fortunate
to
have
that
opportunity
and
have
continued
in
that
as
such.
Prior
to
that,
my
background
has
been
in
commercial
real
estate,
so
I
worked
with
a
International
Investment,
firm,
Marcus
and
Miller
chap,
or
a
little
bit
more
National
I'm
working
on
retail
recruitment,
as
well
as
retail
commercial
property
sales,
which
led
me
actually
to
what
I
do
now.
K
I
originally
came
in
and
joined
the
CRA
to
help
them
with
their
retail
Recruitment
and
have
been
successful
as
such,
bringing
both
Walgreens
to
downtown
as
well
as
Grocers
to
the
area
as
well.
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
background,
a
high
level
about
myself
happy
to
hear
any
questions
you
have
for
me
and
share
additional
context
and
how
I
can
be
a
great
asset
to
the
Tampa
community.
B
Waiting
for
her
to
call
me
back
but
I,
look
at
your
experience
in
real
estate,
big
Focus
I've,
always
said
from
day
one.
We
need
to
buy
property
to
control
the
narrative
that
we
don't
do
as
the
potential
CRA
director.
How
would
you
come
in
and
deal
with
our
cre
dollars,
as
relates
to
real
estate,
because
I
feel
that
we
don't
buy
property
or
contracture
not
put
on
the
table
in
some
of
our
areas,
but
the
developers
come
in
and
put
down
contracts
and
I
think
that's
kind
of
backwards.
K
Well,
my
first
component
councilman,
ultimately
to
to
approach
that
is
from
a
CRA
piece
and
we
purchase
a
lot
of
property
into
a
large
extent.
It's
been
focused
on
both
affordable
housing
development,
as
well
as
assemblage
to
ultimately
allow
for
a
more
intense
development.
You
need
to
make
sure
the
CRA
is
Nimble
enough
in
order
to
make
those
components
oftentimes,
when
you're
working
in
the
fast-paced
market
that
we've
been
in
for
the
past
near
decade.
At
this
point
developers
they
can
move
a
lot
faster
than
the
government
can.
K
So
what
you
need
to
do
in
my
own
personal
perception
is
make
sure
that
every
year,
when
you're,
putting
your
budgets
together
that
we
have
a
line
item,
that's
ultimately
denoted
for
Real,
Estate
acquisition
or
real
estate
type
line
items
and
then
beyond
the
consistent
both
what
I
consider
proactive
search
for
identifying.
What
are
those
strategic
sites
that
we
need
to
be
pursuing,
maybe
they're
on
the
market-
maybe
they're
not,
but
if
they
are
make
sure
where
we
have
our.
K
You
know
opportunity
to
analyze
them
doing
our
due
diligence,
making
sure
there's
not
issues
that
we're
unaware
of
and
then
bringing
forward.
You
know
fast
and
appropriate
purchases
with
the
context
of
having
a
goal
in
mind,
whether
that
is
to
assemble
the
site
and
we're
looking
at
acquiring
more
to
get
larger
developments,
or
vice
versa.
K
If
there's
a
specific
targeted
development
in
mind,
I
think
that
needs
to
be
cultivated
in
brought
along
in
that
process,
but
I
think
they
need
to
be
consistently
managed
and
not
just
necessarily
waiting
for
those
right
opportunities
to
come
to
play.
It
needs
to
be
an
active
process
and
a
continual
process
to
make
sure
that
when
those
opportunities
come
up,
we're
either
creating
them
or
we're
the
first
at
the
table.
B
B
Are
you
familiar
with
any
institutions
or
the
philosophy
of
trying
to
deal
with
other
outside
sources,
besides
icra
as
a
funding
source,
or
to
be
able
to
help
what
I
say
our
small
hanging
fruit
with
our
minorities
in
certain
communities,
where
Banks
don't
lend
to
them
because
a
lot
of
times
we
can
have
a
grant,
but
a
matching
Grant
they
may
not
still
can
match.
Have
the
dollars
on
hand
to
be
able
to
match
the
grant
team
get
any
project.
K
Yes,
I
have
so
specifically:
I
can
speak
to
a
program.
I
think
we
spoke
about
a
little
bit
yesterday.
We
were
working
on
single-family,
affordable
housing,
ultimately
in
our
Paramore
Community,
which
is
a
historically
African-American
Community
when
we
set
that
onset
to
do
that,
there
had
not
been
single-family
homes
built
in
that
neighborhood
in
over
a
decade.
It's
not
for
lack
of
effort,
but
it
just
would
not
be
successful.
K
Ultimately,
I
led
a
program
to
deliver
the
first
homes
that
had
ever
been
delivered
there
and
then
ensure
that
they
were
delivered
to
affordable
home
buyers,
as
well
as
as
mixed
income
home
buyers.
The
way
we're
able
to
do
that
was
through
Partnerships.
Like
you
mentioned,
we
were
actually
able
to
bring
three
different
groups
to
the
table
so
that
a
applicant,
a
potential
home
buyer,
could
purchase
one
of
these
homes
for
as
little
as
one
thousand
dollars
down
how
we
did
that.
Is
we
partnered
both
a
a
new
CRA
program
that
offered
down
payment
assistance?
K
We
made
sure
working
with
those
different
institutions
figuring
out
what
position
they
were
willing
to
be
from
the
mortgage
perspective.
Some
were
only
willing
to
go
to.
Second,
we
had
to
convince
some
to
go
to
third,
we
volunteered
to
go
forth
because
we
knew
we
had
to
make
the
commitment
to
the
area.
So
we
not
only
layered
our
own
down
payment
assistance.
K
We
brought
in
some
County
assistant
or
some
County
financial
assistance
also
looked
to
a
program
with
the
Wells
Fargo
lift,
which
was
available
potentially
at
the
time
to
bring
in
additional
assistance
as
well.
So
we
were
very
fortunate
in
that
context.
It's
a
program
that
we
still
manage
today
and
has
been
very
successful
for
that
Community.
What.
B
You
mentioned
to
me
yesterday
about
you.
We
were
able
to
get
an
International
Bank
or
something
like
that
to
the
effect
and
that's
what
I
hear.
Even
at
the
the
CRV
conference,
they
talked
about
other
lending
institutions,
so
I
want
to
have
a
director
that
can
be
able
to
know
or
have
some
knowledge
of
these
institutions
to
be
able
to
help
those
who
cannot
get
money,
get
money
to
either
start
up
their
business,
be
able
to
work
on
their
business
and
that's
what
the
the
conference
session
I
set
in
about
these
banking
institutions.
K
K
That
program
was
making
sure
that
we
had
the
approach
to
prepare
those
businesses
with
a
Financial
Consultant
that
the
CRA
would
pay
for.
That
would
guide
them
and
basically
help
them
put
the
business
plan
together,
so
that
then
we
could
Bridge
them
bring
them
to
Banks.
Now,
with
much
more
information
that
than
a
traditional
small
business,
a
startup
would
have
to
allow
them
to
leverage
those
opportunities
and
really
get
the
funding.
They
need
and
leverage
the
funds
that
we
have
to
make
it
even
more
of
an
impact.
B
Last
question
last
question:
I'm,
a
guy
who's,
hungry,
Miss,
Travis
and
Miss
drum
go
Mr
Jungle
understood
that
I
was
hungry
and
they've
been
moving,
pretty
fast
I'm
looking
for
a
director
to
come
in
and
move
fast,
keep
the
train
going.
We
spoke
about
that
yesterday,
first
90
days.
What
do
we
do?
How
do
we
get
to
keep
this
train
moving?
We
think
it's
a
good
Steam.
K
Sure
so
absolutely
I
think
you
know.
Tenacity
to
that
extent
is
something
that
I
thrive
on
I.
Think
I
have
a
lot
of
energy
and
I'm
hopeful
that
becomes
apparent
in
people
that
interact
with
me.
How
I
approach
that
in
coming
into
or
how
I
would
approach
that
coming
into
this
organization,
as
I
mentioned
yesterday,
but
obviously
for
the
members
of
the
board.
First
I
would
want
to
sit
down
with
all
of
you
and
truly
understand
the
context,
and
the
background
to
which
you
have
in
the
experience.
K
So
a
I
could
be
knowledgeable
of
that,
second
of
which
would
be
ultimately
working
with
the
staff
and
determining
is
the
staff
appropriate
from
a
sizing
perspective
from
a
physical
location
perspective,
so
that
our
we're
capable
of
executing
on
the
tasks
that
are
before
us
and
what
changes
potentially
need
to
be
made
in
doing
that,
making
their
appropriate
strategic
plan
into
figuring
out.
Okay,
here's
what
our
Guiding
Light
is
going
to
be.
H
Thank
you
and
thanks
for
taking
the
time
to
to
talk
yesterday
the
funny
thing
board.
Member
Goods
mentioned
that
Banks
I
over
the
last
couple
years,
I've
spoken
to
several
Banks
and
they
have
a
lot
of
money
that
they
want
to
put
in,
but
because
we
couldn't
get
the
basic
things
done
and
never
even
proposed
it
I
mean
there
there.
Unfortunately,
we
can't
talk
outside
these
meetings,
but
there
are
all
kinds
of
things
that
Banks
want
to
do.
H
They
have
money
that
they're
required
to
put
in
either
philanthropic
money
or
loan
money,
and-
and
there
was
nobody
for
them
to
work
with,
can
I
ask
you
you
mentioned
meba.
We
tried
to
create
a
program
like
that
three
years
ago
and
we're
told
that
we
couldn't
did.
Is
that
actually
part
of
the
CRA
or
is
it
a
city
thing
that
the
CRA
helps
fund.
K
K
H
H
I
have
some
concerns
about
cras,
because
most
cities
Center
everything
around
real
estate,
and
they
the
way
they
measure
success.
Is
they
look
at
how
much
every
year
is
the
tip
money
going
up
and
the
way
that
you
get
the
money
to
go
up
because
it's
property
taxes
is
that
they
have
to
bring
more
real
estate
in
and
especially
big
real
estate
and
the
way
you
get
big
real
estate
traditionally,
the
like
it
has
to
happen
in
Tampa?
Is
they
give
out
big
subsidies?
H
So
the
last
Administration
in
your
last
mayor
gave
out
tens
of
millions
subsidy,
the
private
sector,
to
incentivize
that
and
the
idea
they
have
as
well
in
20
years
we're
going
to
make
a
return
on
the
vestment,
because
the
the
the
tax
money
property
tax
money
will
outpace
that
My
Philosophy
is
completely
different.
It
is
that
first
of
all,
cras
are
are
given
allowed
to
use
this
money
by
other
parts
of
the
city.
H
It's
an
it's
a
investment
or
subsidy
by
other
parts
of
the
city,
and
so
we
have
to
be
custodians,
good,
custodians
of
the
money
and
it's
and
and
the
whole
city
has
to
see
the
benefit
of
it,
and
it
can't
just
be
what
I
call
the
edifice
complex.
It
can't
be
shiny,
new
buildings
or
or
look
at
new
buildings.
If
you
look
at
the
best
cities
in
the
world,
they
don't
measure
the
number
of
new
condos
they
have.
They
don't
measure
the
number
of
new
buildings
that
they
have.
H
Instead,
they
look
at
at
economic
numbers
like
median
household
income.
Article
just
came
out
yesterday.
That
said
our
regional
median
household
income
is,
is
down
and
we've
seen.
I
haven't
looked
at
the
Tampa
numbers,
but
the
Tampa
numbers
have
been
horrible.
Tampa
out
of
the
six
leading
cities
in
the
state
has
been
number
five
regularly
and
not
only
median
household
income
but
home
ownership
rate,
disparities
of
blacks
and
whites
and
men
and
women
and
so
I.
H
If
we're
going
to
invest
this
money,
real
estate
is
fine,
but
I
would
like
to
get
out
of
the
cycle
of
subsidizing
real
estate,
so
we
can
hope
to
get
money
and
then
using
that
many
stuff
subsidize
more
real
estate.
Your
background
is
heavy
heavy
real
estate
and
especially
incentivizing
private
sector.
H
Real
estate
I
think
what
board
member
Goods
was
talking
about
was
more
buying
real
estate
to
work
on
things
like
affordable
housing
or
incentivizing
new
businesses,
and
things
like
that
which
I
would
be
in
favor
of,
but
are
there
other
things
in
your
experience
and
your
or
in
your
aspirations
that
you
could
focus
on?
Besides
subsidizing
private
sector,
real
estate,
development.
K
Absolutely
so
the
other
hat
as
I
when
I
was
introducing
myself
that
I
wear
as
the
assistant
director
of
The,
Downtown,
Development
board
and
contrary
to
the
contextual
name
of
that
group.
The
way
it
functions
is
a
business
improvement
district.
So
when
you
think
about
business,
Improvement
districts,
those
are
based
on
in
I
think
the
term
it
used
yesterday
in
the
software.
If
you
will,
of
the
downtowns
the
activities,
those
special
components,
the
place
making
Concepts
that
really
make
the
great
cities
potentially
that
you're
referring
to
Unique.
K
That
we
have,
that
brings
all
individuals
to
our
area
as
a
specific,
so
that
component
and
working
with
the
marketing
to
Brand
downtown
is
the
the
place
you
want
to
be
for
business,
but
also
for
leisure
is
absolutely
things
that
that
I
do
and
that
I
lead
now
to
the
context
on
cras.
I
think
it's
broad
scale,
I
think.
The
the
context
of
my
background
in
real
estate
is
completely
accurate.
K
The
context
as
well
of
affordable
housing
is
something
that
I
personally
lead
for
our
organization,
so
both
on
a
infill
component
and
making
sure
we
have
infill
home
ownership
opportunities
to
allow
families
to
build
nest,
eggs
and
have
retirement
accounts
to
the
traditional
approach,
which
is
working
with
low-income
housing,
tax
credit
developers
and
ensuring
that
we
have
in
one
specific
situation.
We
worked
with
the
land
trust
actually
out
of
this
area.
In
order
to
do
that,
partner
them
with
have
a
developer.
You
know
others
working
with
people
more
locally
Could.
H
You
and
sorry
to
cut
you
off,
because
I
could
listen
to
your
answer
for
a
long
time.
But
could
you
I
know
my
colleagues
want
to
ask
a
question?
Could
I
ask
you
also,
could
you
give
us
one
or
two
short
examples
of
your
of
where
you've
demonstrated
leadership
where
you
faced
adversity,
where
it
looked
impossible
or
difficult
to
accomplish
something
and
you
were
able
to
lead
and
push
through
and
accomplish
the
goal.
K
But
it
put
me
in
a
position
where
I
was
asked
to
lead
both
members
of
the
mayor's
office,
Deputy
Chiefs
in
the
police
department
in
the
fire
department
in
the
code
enforcement
department,
as
well
as
economic
development.
So
we
had
a
lot
of
different
personalities
and
people
in
the
room,
all
of
which
great
people
the
charge
that
I
would
that
I
was
given
was
to
bring
Orlando
to
the
Forefront
of
what
we
now
call
the
Social
economy,
management
and
structure.
K
So
and
I
had
to
do
that
in
about
six
months.
That
was
the
time
we
were
originally
given
so
galvanizing
that
that
group
of
people
all
with
very
well
intentions
and
I
call
all
of
them.
My
friends
today,
as
you
can
imagine
getting
all
their
individual
inputs
on
a
very
unique
component
amidst
the
time
where
the
world's
eyes
were
on
Orlando
was
very
unique.
It
was
challenging.
K
I,
ultimately
wound
up
galvanizing,
a
group
of
community
members
as
well
and
working
with
a
consultant
along
a
process
that
I
presented
to
council
later
on
in
that
year
and
did
were
successful
in
both
recommending
a
structure
that
we
now
have
there,
where
we
actually
have
a
permanent
position
that
works
with
the
social
economy
that
person
Works
directly
under
me.
We
also
have
a
group
of
community
members
to
be
that
sounding
board
and
brought
Orlando
at
that
time.
H
H
They
both
resulted
in
U.S,
judge,
Department,
Civil,
Rights
investigations
right
now,
since
December
there's
a
current
civil
rights
investigation
going
on
in
the
city
not
created
by
us,
but
created
by
the
last
mayor
when
bike
when
biking
while
black
came
out
in
2015
I
asked
one
of
the
reporters
who
was
going
then
going
to
St
Louis
to
study
or
to
cover
civil
rights.
I
said
what
do
you
think
is:
what's
your
observation
of
the
of
the
black
community
in
Tampa
and
she
was
African-American.
H
She
said,
unlike
St
Petersburg,
that
has
a
a
dialogue
where
people
have
feel
like
they
have
a
seat
at
the
table
in
Tampa,
people
feel
oppressed
and
they
feel
like
they.
They
people
aren't
listening,
they
aren't
hearing
and
during
that
same
time
it
was
the
biggest
economic
boom
in
American
history.
And
if
you
look
at
the
census
number,
the
African-American
Community
either
either
went
sideways
or
or
reduced
in
in
the
imported
economic
metrics,
and
so
we
now
are
potentially
going
into
recession.
There
are
great
sensitivities
in
our
community.
K
Sure
so
I
am
because
it's
what
I
do
now,
so
in
the
context
of
the
work
that
I
do
and
I'm
talking
a
lot
about
downtown,
because
that's
a
lot
of
the
context,
our
downtown
is
focused
pretty
much
of
two
very
historically
different
neighborhoods.
You
heard
me
mention
Paramore
That's,
our
historically
African-American
community,
and
then
you
have
the
CBD
in
our
Eola
area,
which
is
not
and
hysterically
differently
the
context
of
bridging
that
Gap
and
making
sure
the
question
we
always
ask
ourselves.
K
I
always
ask
myself
in
any
program
that
we
do
is
how
are
we
making
sure
that
this
is
accessible
for
all?
That's
also
why
you
heard
me
in
my
earlier
answers
when
we
I
said
a
lot
of
our
programs
are
only
available
for
for
very
specific
needs,
based
components
in
our
Paramore
Community,
because
the
needs
are
different,
so
I'm,
the
right
person,
because
I
understand
that
context
that
you
have
to
approach
each
individual
situation
with
the
unique
context
that
addresses
those
issues
making
sure
all
the
people
are
at
the
table.
K
We
we
all
I,
think
most
people
are
confident
in
what
they
all
know,
but
ensuring
that
we
have
a
seat
at
the
table.
In
fact,
I'm
leading
a
process
now
known
as
project
dto
2.0
stands
for
downtown
Orlando,
but
as
the
Consultants
proposed
it
to
me,
I
went
through
the
process
with
them
and
worked
with
them
to
reshape
that
proposal,
to
ensure
that
we
were
using
the
Jedi
principle,
which
is
Justice
equity
and
inclusion
and
diversity
throughout
the
entire
process.
H
Way,
another
quick
question,
the
the
as
as,
if
I
remember
correctly.
Yesterday
you
have
three
Big
Blocks
kind
of
downtown,
which
includes
a
lot
of
different
areas,
and
that's
that
generates
about
54
million
a
year.
Then
you
have
two
others
Universal
and
Millennium,
all
that
are
kind
of
pass-throughs
to
pay
bonds.
So
the
bottom
line
is
that
ours
is
like
45
million
right
now.
So
yours
is
a
lot
bigger.
Why
would
you
come
to
Tampa
instead
of
working
on
a
bigger
one
sure.
K
I
think
the
context
is:
is
nuancial
in
that
obviously
there's
a
I'm,
an
assistant
director.
Now
this
is
an
executive
director
position,
There's
an
opportunity
for
advancement
for
me
that
that
goes
unsaid.
The
other
context
is
the
uniques
I.
Think
of
the
areas
that
you
have.
So
you
have
eight
different,
very
distinctive,
different
areas,
all
with
very
unique
needs
that
that
I
think
provide
a
very
exciting
opportunity
to
see
change
and
be
impactful
in
that
process
and
really
have
the
community,
hopefully
be
not
only
supportive
but
ecstatic
with
the
outcome.
One.
H
Other
quick
one
if
I
may
as
I
remember
yesterday,
you
report
to
the
mayor
in
this
case
you're,
going
to
be
reporting
the
CRA
board,
which
is
not
city
council,
but
the
CRA
board.
We
talked
about
a
little
bit
about
the
shishay.
Do
you
think
that's
going
to
be
a
hard
transition
or
how
we?
How
will
you
adjust
to
that
sure.
K
I,
don't
think
it'll
be
a
hard
transition.
I
think
there
will
be
obviously
a
contextual
learning
process
from
the
people
that
are
here.
Both
staff
and
the
rest
to
educate
me
on
just
the
general
context
of
the
community.
I,
don't
think
it's
a
hard
transition
in,
in
the
end,
we're
reporting
to
someone
to
the
extent
of
that
being
a
board
or
a
person.
It's
just
making
sure
that
we're,
ultimately
our
ultimately
working
towards
that
the
ultimate
goal
and
vision
of
those
that
are
are
there
that
I'm
there
to
represent.
B
B
Person
but
I
want
the
director
says
we
put
this.
It
was
in
2019
to
understand
that
if
you
are
the
CRA
director,
you
answer
to
the
CRA
board
with
saying
that
you
have
to
be
able
to
also
work
with
Miss,
Travis
and
Mr
drum
go
who
worked
for
the
mayor,
but
what
I
can
say
about
those
two
since
they've
been
here,
they've
been
fair
and
honest
and
transparent
to
this
board,
which
I
think
that's
what
a
board
entrusted
to
do,
what
she's
been
doing
so
again,
Mr
Carlson's
course
and
I'm
a
candid
person.
B
L
K
K
The
first
of
which
people
are
important
to
me,
I
think
my
team
are
ultimately
important
to
me.
I
was
fortunate
to
be
awarded
the
city
of
Orlando's
McNamara
employee
of
the
year
in
2020
and
I
was
actually
nominated
by
someone
underneath
me
now.
That
meant
a
lot
to
me,
because
I
value,
my
people,
why?
What
I
do
to
ultimately
motivate
them?
My
first
step
is
understanding
them
I.
K
Think
it's
hard
to
motivate
somebody
until
you
understand
what
makes
them
tick
and
that's
a
process
by
building
that
relationship,
then
I
feel
like
by
motoring
them
I
want
to
set
the
vision.
I
never
asked
people
to
do
something
that
I'm
not
willing
to
do
and
I
think.
Ultimately,
when
my
staff,
even
my
current
staff,
see
someone
that's
excited
to
come
to
work
in
the
middle
in
the
morning,
is
working
throughout
the
day
and
is
striving
towards
that.
K
Ultimate
goal
is
aspiring,
or
at
least
kind
of
sets,
the
stage
as
what's
expected,
the
second
opponent
is
making
sure
they're
appropriately
trained
and
in
what
they're
doing,
and
so
that
they
have
all
the
capabilities.
In
addition
to
that,
the
tools
at
their
disposal
to
some
ultimately
meet
the
expectations
that
I'm
going
to
set,
and
the
last
is
I.
Don't
know
if
these
are
specifically
in
order
he's
holding
people
accountable.
K
So
I
lead
our
Economic
Development
arm
for
the
CRA,
so
oftentimes
on
our
at
least
on
our
larger
projects,
when
I
was
Economic.
Development
coordinator
I
was
the
first
step
for
all
projects
now,
I
have
someone
that
does
that
for
me
on
all
our
larger
projects,
I
lead
out
on
those,
so
the
most
specific
opponent
is
identifying
what
corporations
oftentimes,
both
large
and
small,
are
an
ideal
fit
for
downtown
Orlando.
K
We
work
specifically
with
a
larger
organization
the
Orlando
economic
partnership,
so
there
is
our
Liaisons
for
other
intrastate
relocations,
but
it's
identifying
working
with
those
individual
companies,
I
developed
a
specific
incentive
program
at
the
time
to
Target
companies
that
were
looking
to
move
into
the
area.
The
unique
component
to
which
I've
been
fortunate
to
be
able
to
spearhead
is
that
we're
able
to
relocate
companies
just
that
are
outside
of
the
CRA
boundaries
to
the
CRA
and
that
can
ultimately
be
very
impactful.
When
It
ultimately
comes
to
trying
to
denote.
K
What's
going
to
make
someone
make
the
difference
in
signing
a
lease
within
the
CRA
or
outside
of
it
and
determining
what
those
specific
needs
are
could
be
parking
in
some
situations.
It
could
be
access
to
talent,
and
maybe
they
just
need
to
be
connected
with
the
appropriate
resources.
So
I've
LED,
all
of
those
I've,
been
successful
in
being
part
of
the
process
that
led
EA
Sports
to
bring
their
Southeast
headquarters
to
downtown
Orlando,
which
is
within
our
CRA,
which
is
a
process
that
the
city
had
been
through
three
previous
times.
K
This
was
the
fourth
round
at
the
table
with
them,
but
we
were
happy
we're
successful
and
we
worked
a
tax
increment
financing
component
in
order
to
do
that,
while
also
bringing
them
along
as
we
councilman
Carlson
was
imagining
about
making
sure
the
community
was
component,
ensuring
that
they
have
a
piece
in
that,
where
they're
integrating
the
community
along
the
way.
So
they
have
a
piece
that
every
year
they
have
to
have
a
program
and
showing
how
they're
impacting
the
community
around
them.
A
And
my
last
question
has
to
do
with
the
community,
as
you
heard
from
public
comment,
East
Tampa
is
ready
to
push
things
through.
How
I
can
I
can
feel
your
energy?
But
how
do
you?
How
do
you
help
East
Tampa?
How
do
you,
how
do
you
help
bridge
the
community
and
what
the
board
wants
with
staff
and
push
things
that
the
community
is
asking
for.
K
Sure
so
I
think
the
initial
context
is
what
I
mentioned
a
little
bit
earlier,
which
is
galvanizing
everyone
on
a
unified
Vision.
Now
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
it's
anyone's
sole,
individual,
Vision,
meaning
hey
I,
want
this.
It's
figuring
out,
hey
what
can
we
all
agree
that
needs
to
get
addressed
determined
that
is
our
ultimate
priority:
bridging
those
gaps
and
again
I'm
heavy
on
relationships.
I
think
when
people
realize
that
you're
truly
concerned-
and
you
have
their
best
interests
at
heart,
they'll
at
least
give
you
a
shot.
K
You
know
to
make
sure
that
you
know
you're
being
able
to
do
that.
So
I
think
I
would
handle
that
one
by
learning
both
learning,
what
the
visions
of
the
board,
we're
learning
with
the
visions
of
the
community
are
finding
what
Nexus
that
we
can
all
agree
that
needs
to
be
handled
and
needs
to
be
handled
quickly
and
ensuring
that
the
the
programs,
the
process
and
the
funds
are
all
aligned
to
make
sure
that
we
can
make.
You
know
Swift
and
positive
progress.
C
L
E
J
Thank
you
Nicole
good
morning
board
members
board
chair.
My
name
is
Allison
Justice
I
am
currently
residing
in
on
the
east
coast
of
Florida
in
Palm
Beach
Gardens
Florida
I
was
with
the
West
Palm
Beach
CRA
for
eight
years
as
the
deputy
and
interim
director,
and
actually
just
to
back
up
a
little
I
know.
You
see
my
resume,
but
I
worked
for
a
Redevelopment
consulting
company
for
10
years,
so
we
consulted
for
various
cras
throughout
the
state.
J
I
am
originally
from
the
Midwest
from
the
Kansas
Kansas
City
area
in
Kansas
and
came
to
Florida
about
20,
six
or
seven
years
ago,
I'll
age,
myself
with
that
but
20
some
years
ago,
so
I've
been
in
Florida.
Most
of
my
adult
life,
I
am
as
you'll
see
and
as
we'll
discuss.
You
know
one
of
the
unique
Parts
about
me
to
the
other
candidates.
I
am
not
that
familiar
with
the
Tampa
area,
I'm.
A
very
quick
study.
J
I,
you
know
I'm
excited
to
hit
the
ground
running
and
really
learn
about
this
city
and
your
CRA.
What
my
expertise
really
is
is
Redevelopment
and
I
know
that
I
can
help
you
move
projects
forward
and
get
you
know,
get
on
the
right
path
with
moving
your
projects
and
I
know
Miss,
Travis
and
and
Mr.
What's
your
last
name
drum
girl,
I
apologize
have
come
recently
and
done
a
lot
of
work
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
them
in
completing
these
goals.
So
with
that
I'll,
have
you
ask
questions?
Okay,.
B
Our
East
Tampa
I
believe
our
e-board
two,
which
is
to
our
Eastern
portion
and
you
know,
West
Tampa,
is-
is
coming
along,
but
two
that
I
think
they're
they're
unachieving
in
that
for
the
viewers
at
home
and
those
are
here
since
you
had
an
extensive
background
in
Redevelopment,
I'm,
hungry,
Miss,
Travis
and
Mr
Dremel
have
come
in
and
start
getting
they
moving.
How
will
you
continue
that
hunger
for
me
to
for
this
community
because
they're
hungry
for
Action
now
so
coming
in
as
a
new
director?
J
Thank
you
for
your
question.
Councilmember
I
I
realize
there
are
projects
that
are
underway.
I
I
know
that
you've
started
getting
the
train
moving
and
I
appreciate
that
my
intent
would
certainly
not
be
to
stop
any
momentum
moving
forward.
So
you
know
my
first
order
of
business
would
be
working
working
with
with
the
team
to
ensure
the
projects
that
are
moving
forward.
Continue
to
move
forward.
I
am
a
I'm,
a
get
it
done
kind
of
person,
so
I,
don't
like
I,
don't
I,
don't
like
a
lot
of
red
tape.
J
I
understand
we
work
in
a
government
environment
so
getting
through
City
process
is
one
of
the
the
the
challenges
of
starting
within
government
I
have
worked
in
government
intimately
within
City
at
City
Hall
for
eight
years,
so
I
understand
how
to
get
through
those
processes
so
immediately
it
would
be
to
continue
the
momentum
that's
moving
forward.
At
the
same
time,
it's
establishing
the
relationships
and
understanding
really
these
cras,
where
their
assets
are
how
we
can
then
again
improve
on
what's
happening
in
those
areas
and
and
move
new
projects
forward.
J
So
it's
not
to
it.
Wouldn't
certainly
would
move
everything
forward.
That's
moving
forward
now
currently
and
keep
them
on
the
books
and
then
also
take
a
real,
deep
analysis
of
what's
going
on
within
all
the
cras
and
hopefully
bring
new
ideas
and
new
projects
forward
as
well
for
redevelopment.
Second,.
B
Question
when
I
talk
about
the
one
of
the
largest
cras
in
the
state,
that's
had
challenges
a
long
time
and
you
you
have
to
understand
that
this
particular
CRA
is
basically
African-American
minority.
We
do
have
other
races
that
participate,
but
it's
mainly
what
I
call
black
folks
and
I
must
make
sure.
We
have
a
CR
director
that
has
thick.
K
B
And
can
be
able
to
handle.
You
know,
people
think
that
people
are
upset
because
they're
angry.
Well,
it's
not
more
angry.
It's
the
passion
of
not
being
able
to
thrive
like
everyone
else
and
wondering
why
haven't
we
arrived
or
why
haven't
we
gotten
what
everyone
else
has
gotten?
So
how
thick
is
your
skin.
J
I
was
very
thick.
I
will
answer
just
that
directly,
but
very
thick
I
worked
for
CRA
the
CRA
in
West
Palm
Beach
has
a
has
a
50
million
dollar
budget.
We
had
about
20
million
dollars
going
towards
the
black
community
that
hadn't
seen
Redevelopment
in
in
50
years.
They
hadn't
seen
Redevelopment
ever
in
in
their
lifetime.
In
this
area
it's
adjacent
to
downtown.
We
were
lucky
that
we
had
funding
through
the
downtown
CRA
for
this
area,
but
it's
establishing
that
level
of
trust.
J
You,
don't
you
don't
walk
into
a
CRA,
you
don't
walk
into
a
neighborhood
and
not
have
the
citizens,
trust
that
you're
working
for
them
and
doing
what
they
want
to
do.
So,
it's
getting
to
know
getting
to
know
the
people
on
the
ground,
getting
them
to
trust
you
getting
them
to
understand.
You're
there
to
actually
make
projects
happen,
make
their
quality
of
life
better.
That's
what
that's?
What
we're
here
to
do.
So
you
know
I
I,
have
a
lot
of
experience.
I
have
a
lot
of
experience
in
working
with
diverse
communities
and
community
meeting
things.
J
B
F
Real
quick
in
regards
to
councilmember
good
said
it.
Almost
all
the
cras
except
Drew
Parker
and
his
district
I
have
drew
Park,
so
he
has
a
very
active
district
and
also
a
demanding
district
and
for
very
good
reason.
We
talk
about
central
part,
for
example
the
last
business
that
closed
in
what
was
Central
Avenue
before
was
1974.
48
years
ago,
and
there
have
been
some
improvements
as
of
lately
through
the
area,
but
it's
almost
half
a
century
for
that
area
to
start
coming
back,
East,
Tampa
being
one
of
the
largest
in
the
state.
F
The
word
gentrification
was
mentioned
earlier:
it's
not
about
gentrification,
it's
about
Equity.
What
I
want
to
see
my
goal
is
that
we
really
focus
on
East
Tampa
and
not
that
people
haven't
in
the
past,
but
I.
Think
time
is
of
the
essence,
as
the
rest
of
the
city
is
flourishing.
East
Tampa
serves
not
gentrification,
but
Equity
equity
in
the
sense
that
I
want
to
see
that
CRA
District
succeed
like
the
others.
Maybe
it
won't
be
like
a
downtown.
You
can't
compare
apples
to
apples,
but
I
want
East
Tampa
to
have
the
same.
F
You
know,
I,
don't
know
what
the
word
is.
Investment
or
continuation
of
that
I
want
people
to
to
build
upon
that
where
the
area
continues
to
flourish.
Long
after
we're
gone,
parts
of
the
city
have
been
ignored.
There
have
been
too
much
focus
and
emphasis
on
other
parts
of
the
city
and
others
are
left
behind
and
I
think
in
general
and
I'm,
not
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
community,
but
people
aren't
going
to
wait
anymore.
F
We've
talked
about
strategic
action
plans
that
have
not
been
updated
and
since
I
was
in
college
and
when
I
was
in
college,
which
was
less
than
20
years
ago,
Tampa
was
a
different
place
even
10
years
ago,
Tampa
was
a
different
place.
Cra
meetings
were
different
five
years
ago.
We
we
were,
we
we
were
done
at
10
o'clock,
but
there's
so
much
to
do
and
times
have
changed
and
times
have
changed
quickly,
because
Tampa
is
growing
rapidly,
but
at
the
same
time
we
want
to
lift
all
boats.
F
You
know
say
a
rising
tide
lifts
all
boats,
I
want
that
Rising
tide,
economic
Rising
tide
that
affects
everybody.
So
we
have
Equity
across
the
board
and
everybody
wins
and
everybody's
proud,
no
matter
where
they
live
in
the
city,
because
they're
getting
the
same
benefits
that
everybody
else's.
Thank
you.
H
It's
funded
by
big,
real
estate
development,
it's
it's!
It
incentivizes
big,
real
estate
development
and
when,
when
many
cities
look
at
cras,
they
they
measure
the
ROI
by
the
amount
of
tip
money
that
comes
in
or
they
do
a
formula
where
they
they
subsidize
a
private
sector,
commercial
development,
and
then
they
they
try
to
do
a
formula
where
they
say
well.
H
In
10
years,
we'll
make
money,
the
county
didn't
use
a
CRA,
but
years
a
few
years
ago
they
spent
6.25
million
subsizing
Bass
Pro
Shops
to
move
in
and
their
justification
was
well
in
10
years.
We'll
make
the
money
back.
The
last
mayor
here
did
the
same
thing
spent
tens
of
millions
of
dollars,
CRA
money,
subsidizing,
private
sector,
commercial
development,
I
think
it's
anti-competitive,
because
it's
not
fair
to
subsidize
one
versus
another.
But
also,
if
you
look
at
the
broader
City
perspective,
we
need
to
the
best
cities
in
the
world.
H
Don't
measure
how
many
condos
they
get,
they
don't
measure
how
many
new
high-rise
buildings
that
come
in.
They
don't
measure
the
new
office
space.
That's
coming,
unless
it's
some
specialized
publication.
What
they
do
instead
is
they
measure
their
economic
numbers
and
our
economic
numbers
during
the
biggest
economic
boom
in
American,
history
mostly
went
down
the
middle
class,
mostly
shrank.
The
disparities
between
rich
and
poor,
black
and
white
men
and
women
got
worse
compared
to
other
cities
and
compared
to
the
main
six
biggest
cities
in
Florida.
H
We
came
in
fifth
out
of
sixth,
the
regional
number
I
haven't
looked
at
the
local
numbers
yet,
but
the
regional
number
just
came
back
that
set
our
numbers
for
median
household
income,
which
is
the
primary
measure
for
the
region,
came
in
below
most
cities
and-
and
we
know
and
look
in
in
the
past,
that
Temple
is
dragging
down
St
Pete,
because
St
Pete's
numbers
were
better.
So
we
we
I
in
any
way
have
been
desperately
looking
for
ways
to
try
to
correct
that
and
move
it
in
the
right
direction.
H
And
the
other
thing
is
that
cras
are
taking
money
from
one
part
of
the
city
and
investing
in
another
and
I
think
we
have
to
be
good
custodians
of
that
money
to
make
sure
spinning
the
right
way
and
if
we
change
the
economic
numbers
overall
make
our
city
more
successful.
We
can
talk
with
honesty
about
the
successes,
we're
having
not
not
what
I
call
the
edifice
complex
where
we
say.
Look
at
these
new
buildings
and
try
to
distract
attention.
H
Instead,
we
say
our
economic
numbers
are
better
than
anybody
else's
compared
to
cities
like
Charlotte,
Austin
and
Atlanta.
We
went
sideways
and
they
went
up.
We
didn't
even
move
it
the
same
direction
as
they
did
so.
My
question
is:
send
cras
in
many
cities
and
in
this
city
in
the
past
were
are
very
commercial
real
estate
focused
about
incentives?
What
else
would
you
focus
on
sure.
J
And
thank
you
for
the
question
and
as
the
as
the
previous
council
member
pointed
out,
it's
about
Equity
I
mean
and
it's
equity
in
your
other
cras
and
your
other
communities.
We're
talking
about
CRA,
so
I'm
going
to
specifically
focus
on
the
cras,
but
it's
it's
building
the
Equity
Building,
the
quality
of
life
in
those
neighborhoods,
and
you
can
do
that
through
I
mean
there's.
The
ecra
has
a
healthy
tip.
This
is
not
it's
not.
You
know,
they're,
not
struggling
for
you
know
for
cash.
J
You
know,
as
far
as
infrastructure
projects,
major
infrastructure
projects
that
that's
a
little
bit
more
difficult,
but
as
far
as
a
tiff
and
a
CRA,
they
have
a
decent
decent
tip
in
the
ecra.
So
it's
about
it's
about
building,
building
that
middle
class
up
it's
about
giving
business
opportunities
so,
whether
that's
that's
creating
your
sense
of
place.
So
I
talked
about
yesterday
with
a
few
of
you
about
finding
the
assets
in
each
community.
So
what
is
it
that
the
ecra
has
to
offer?
Is
it?
Is
it
the
arts
and
culture?
Is
it?
You
know?
J
What
is
it
that
we
focus
our
Redevelopment
on
in
these
specific
areas,
and
you
build
around
that
and
you
have
to
do
it?
Redevelopment
doesn't
occur,
widespread
it.
It's
very
localized.
It's
the
reason
and
downtowns
have
now
succeeded
is
because
it
was
concentrated
in
a
downtown.
The
same
Theory
applies
for
other
areas
of
the
city.
It's
you
concentrate
your
Redevelopment,
it
spreads.
You
know
again,
it's
the
it's.
The
the
the
rising
tide
lifts,
All
Ships.
Once
you
get
an
area
and
you
start
building
it,
but
that
would
be
my
answer
for
these
other
areas.
H
Another
sorry
to
hit
you
with
the
tough
questions,
but
another
top
question.
City
of
Tampa
currently
is
under
a
USS
Department
Civil
Rights
investigation,
and
this
was
not
by
a
program
we
created.
It
was
program
programs
created
by
the
last
mayor.
There
was
a
saint.
The
the
last
Administration
also
had
a
civil
rights
investigation
by
the
justice
department
in
2015
2015
2016..
H
The
these
also
resulted
in
investigative
stories
by
the
Tampa
Times.
The
one
in
2015
was
called
biking,
while
black,
the
recent
one
is
called
renting,
while
black
and
and
and
so
the
the
current
Justice
Department
investigation
started
December.
It's
still
hanging
over
us,
but
in
2015
I
asked
one
of
the
two
reporters
who
wrote
the
biking
while
black
stories
she
happened
to
be
African-American.
I
said
what
do
you
think
about
East
Tampa,
the
African-American
Community
versus
Saint,
Pete
or
other
cities,
and
in
in
Saint
Pete
in
96?
H
They
had
issues
that
resulted
in
the
creation
of
a
dialogue,
and
she
talked
about
how
the
African-American
Community
feels
like
they
have
a
seated
table.
There's
conversation
going
on:
it's
not
perfect,
it's
not
great,
but
it's
at
least
conversations
happening.
But
I
said
what
do
you
think
about
Tampa
and
she
said
in
Tampa
african-america
feels
oppressed.
They
feel
they
don't
have
a
seat
at
the
table.
They're
they're
programs
that
are
holding
them
back.
They
feel
like
they.
H
They
aren't
being
listened
to
you're
stepping
in
to
that
environment
and
also,
if
you
look
economically
African-American
Community
numbers
economic
numbers
went
either
sideways
or
down
huge
disparities
in
income,
huge
disparities
in
home
ownership,
lack
of
ability
to
start
new
businesses,
so
stepping
into
that
into
that
environment.
How?
How
are
you
that
tell
us
how
you're
the
best
person
to
be
able
to
navigate
that.
J
Sure
sure,
and-
and
you
know
the
simple
answer
is
there
must
be
investment
in
these
communities.
But
it's
not
that
easy.
You
know
it's
not
that
easy
and
in
the
African-American
Community
you
know,
as
I
mentioned
before.
It's
it's
a
trust
issue.
You
know
nobody
wants
to
see
a
government
official
walk
in
and
tell
them
they're
going
to
save
the
day
and
they're
going
to.
You
know
they're
going
to
make
everything
everything
better,
whatever
neighborhood
you're
in
and
and
especially
in
lower,
say
socioeconomic
neighborhoods.
You
know,
but
they,
but
you
want
it
better.
J
So
they
have
to
be
part
of
the
process.
I
went
through
this
in
West
Palm
Beach.
The
community
helped
design
their
own
Park.
They
helped
really
come
up
with
the
programs
that
we
were
going
to
put
into
place
in
this
community
because
it
was
nothing
that
government
was
coming
in
and
doing
for
the
community.
J
It
was
with
the
community
and
if
you
don't,
if
they
don't
feel
like
you're
doing
it
with
them,
you're
not
going
to
get
anywhere
and
I
think
that's
been
a
mistake
that
government's
made
for
a
long
time
as
you
come
and
say.
Well,
I'll
save
the
day
over
here,
I'm
not
going
to
save
the
day.
It's
going
to
be
a
process
with
with
them,
not
not
me
coming
in
and
saying.
This
is
what
you
should
do.
H
Last
question
real
fast
I.
Think
in
your
in
your
position
in
West
Palm,
you
reported
the
mayor,
some
cities,
these
positions
report
to
the
mayor.
In
this
case
you
report
to
not
city
council,
but
a
CRA
board,
which
happens
to
also
be
city,
council
members
and
there's
seven
of
us
with
totally
different
backgrounds
and
experiences.
J
I
I
prefer
reporting,
show
board
and
and
in
West
Palm
Beach.
You
do
technically
report
to
the
board,
but
the
mayor
had
a
lot
of
influence
over
over
projects
and
over
things
that
were
happening.
I
would
prefer.
You
know
we
vote,
we
vote
as
a
board
when
you
vote
on
your
budget,
meaning
you're
voting
on
the
projects
that
you're
going
to
undertake.
That's
the
way,
I
believe
that
it's
it's
best
served
as
a
CRA
is.
A
Board,
member
Vieira
there
you
go
and
how
are
you
today
doing
all
right,
good
good
and
you
know
I
wanted
to
mine's,
not
as
much
of
a
question.
I
guess
just
telling
I
guess
my
view
of
CR
Rays.
You
know
councilman
Carlson
said
something
that
I
think
is
very
true,
but
but
I
actually
agree
with
the
idea
that
was
put
forward.
A
Maybe
on
the
other
side,
which
is
that
cras
do
Force
governments
to
spend
money
in
a
certain
place,
I
actually
support
that
that
compelled
tool,
because
I
don't
think
governments
typically
do
that.
If
you
leave
most
governments
they're
going
to
spend
money
where
the
money
is
where
the
votes
are
so
I
actually
support
something
that
makes
governments
spend
money
in
a
certain
place.
You
know:
I
represent
a
district
where
we
essentially,
we
have
no
cras
right.
I.
A
Think
there's
a
good
argument
that
maybe
some
parts
of
of
district
7
should
Sulfur
Springs,
for
example,
USF
for
example,
but
we
also
have
some
wealthier
areas
such
as
New
Tampa,
including
Hunter's,
Green,
Tampa
Palms,
and,
if
somebody
were
to
ask
me,
you
know,
do
cras,
especially
in
bloody
communities
which
they
should
be
for
blighted
communities
cause
some
of
these
communities
such
as
South
Tampa,
Bay,
Shore,
Tampa,
Palms,
Hunter's
Green
to
subsidize
areas
that
maybe
are
more
marginalized
to
an
extent
I
would
go.
Yes,
that
is
true
and
I
actually
support
that.
A
A
Our
CRA
meetings
were
very
short,
had
been
on
that
board
for
about
two
years
or
so,
and
we
had
people
who,
who
you
know,
pushed
a
lot
of
big
ideas
on
on
cras.
Councilman
dingfelder
I
know
did
councilman
Carlson
has
a
lot
and
they've
changed.
The
discussion
and
I
give
folks
credit
for
that
in
terms
of
CRA,
and
my
hat
is
off
to
people
for
that,
because
I
think
we're
having
more
robust
discussions
which
push
the
imagination
of
what
CRA
should
do.
A
But
that's
kind
of
the
way
that
I
see
cra,
which
is
to
you
know,
help
blighted
communities
and
to
compel
governments
to
subsidize
and
support
extra
communities
that,
given
the
political
incentives,
they
probably
wouldn't
support.
So
that's
kind
of
my
feeling
for
whatever
it's
worth.
Thank
you
board.
Member
Goods.
B
Ms
Justice,
as
you
can
see,
we
we're
focusing
on
the
director,
but
we
also
focus
in
on
a
particular
CR
Rays.
You
can
see
one
that
has
a
lot
of
money
that
has
never
been
spent
a
lot
of
money
and
that's
kind
of
reason
why
we
Hammer
home
about
the
East
Tampa
CRA.
It
has
a
lot
of
money
and
I've
told
Miss,
Travis
and
Mrs
Ringo.
B
B
B
B
B
We
have
folks
over
there
now
who
experience
and
have
the
expertise
in
it.
So
you
kids
can't
tell
them
like.
In
the
older
days,
other
managers
and
people
tell
them
fluff
or
tell
them,
and
they
will
believe
that
you
have
people
now
who
will
vet,
which
have
already
vetted
your
your
background,
who
will
also
vet
or
already
have
the
answers
to
the
questions
that
you
may
have.
They
already
know
it,
because
they
they
do
it
every
day
themselves.
You
have
about
five
or
six
on
that
board.
Now
you
have
an
attorney
on.
B
J
J
Obviously,
there's
going
to
be
people
I,
don't
know
the
projects
now
I
can't
I
can't
tell
you
how
I'm
going
to
come
in
and
spend
the
money.
So
I'd
love
to
answer
that
question.
That's
one!
That's
obviously
a
place
that
I
have
I,
have
some
studying
and
boots
on
the
ground
and
research
to
do
before.
I
know
what
projects
make
sense
for
that
community
and
it
starts
that's
why
I
kind
of
go
back
to
that
starts.
With
the
talking
to
people
and
I,
understand,
I,
understand
we.
We
need
projects
moving.
J
You
know
you
like
us,
like
you
said
you
saw
my
background.
I,
have
lots
of
experience
in
infrastructure
projects,
lots
of
experience
and
incentives,
incentives
for
both
developers
and
and
for
single-family
homes
and
for
small
businesses.
So
I've
I've
worked
the
gamut
from
from
the
the
smallest
to
the
largest
and,
as
you
mentioned,
I
know
how
to
do
it.
I
can't
tell
you
specifically
what
it's
going
to
be
in
that
that
neighborhood
right
now,
but
I
can
promise
you
that
I
that
I
will
get
it
done.
Thank.
F
H
Yeah,
just
just
to
elaborate
or
clarify
from
what
board
member
good
said
he's
talking
about
he's,
not
talking
about
new
money.
What
he's
talking
about
is
money
in
a
CRA.
That's
already
set
up
money,
that's
already
been
collected
and
the
the
money
has
all
has
been
designated
to
go
to
certain
projects
that
will
help
the
community,
but
for
some
reason
it's
still
sitting
in
the
bank
account
and
the
staff
didn't
didn't,
move
the
projects
forward,
and
so
it's
not
it's
not
about
spending
new
money
or
frivolously
spending
money.
I
A
So
so
I
think
we're
all
kind
of
dancing
around.
What
East
Tampa
has
struggled
with
is
pushing
things
through,
whether
that
be
Community,
disagreement
amongst
each
other
upon
projects
or
what
council
member
Carlson
said
about
staff,
not
getting
things
done.
So
how
do
you
come
in
and
bridge
that
Gap
and
and
push
these
projects
that
the
community
and
the
city
needs
and
make
sure
your
your
yeah?
How
do
you?
How
do
you
push
all
that
through.
J
Well,
my
my
experience
with
with
getting
projects
done
it
has
to
it
does
have
to
do
with
on
on
some
levels
of
building
relationships.
I
mean
again
kind
of
going
back
to
the.
If
you
can't
be
trusted
and
that's
internally,
it's
with
your
staff.
It's
with
your
you
know,
staff,
that's
that's,
maybe
completing
some
of
these
projects
from
other
departments
in
the
city.
J
So
what
I
do
is
I
am
first
of
all
immediately
get
to
know
every
single
one
of
those
people,
because
that's
going
to
be
that's
going
to
be
the
team,
it's
not
one
person
pushing
an
item
through
you
have
to
have
a
team.
You
have
to
have
the
right
Consultants,
it's
making
sure
I'm
working
with
the
attorneys
to
you,
know,
expedite
and
and
quickly
get
if
we
need
consultants
for
a
project,
get
them
on
board.
That's
one
of
the
processes
that
is
very
difficult
as
a
as
a
city.
J
You
know,
there's
a
there's,
you
know
we
know,
there's
a
procurement
process,
there's
rules,
but
but
there's
also
we're
also
a
CRA,
and
we
need
to
do
these
things
quickly.
So
you
know,
I
have
experience
with
moving
these
projects
forward.
I
have
experience
with
working
with
you
know:
Engineers
planners
building,
department,
legal
team
procurement
team.
J
You
know
everybody
down
to
Fleet
and
facility
operations
team
in
order
to
see
things,
move
forward
and
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
they're,
certainly
not
afraid
to
get
involved
with
with
all
of
those
departments,
to
make
sure
that
the
projects
that
this
board
are
approving
are
moving
forward
and
I.
I
understand:
council,
member
Carlson,
the
clarification
on
on
these
dollars
being
spent,
and
it's
important
to
move
these
projects
forward.
J
L
L
No
one
can
succeed
here
at
least
there's
a
big
opportunity
for
whoever
becomes
in
this
role
and
gets
elected
selected
to
to
serve
this
community
has
at
least
one
thing
that
in
a
lot
of
places
you
don't
have.
Usually
you
have
something
that
hasn't
been
done
and
there's
no
money.
At
least
here
you
have
50
50.,
something
that
hasn't
quite
been
done
and
you
have
a
lot
of
money
to
some
degree.
L
So
what
I'm
saying
is
is
how
you
spend
the
money,
and
the
word
trust
is
not
only
do
you
have
to
be
accepted
with
them,
they
have
to
be
accepted
with
you.
It's
a
two-way
street,
and
these
are
the
things
that
in
management
you
have
to
be
attained
and
I
know
that
you
and
the
others
have
certainly
have
that
recognition.
L
How
are
you
going
to
do
that
without
knowing
them
and
there's
a
short
period
of
time,
because,
like
say,
10
years
seems
like
a
long
time,
but
you
close
your
eyes
twice
and
they've
they've
gone
by
so
East.
Tampa
is
particular
in
need
of
someone
with
a
lot
of
leadership,
but
also
understanding
the
trust
of
the
people
and
the
people
have
to
trust
you
or
whoever
gets
the
job.
J
Yeah-
and
it
is
kind
of
to
answer
the
a
bit
of
the
question-
was
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
claiming,
as
I
mentioned
before,
you
know
I'm,
not
from
Tampa.
So
this
is
not
something
you
know.
I
can't
I
can't
fake
that.
That's
not
something
that
I'm
coming
in.
What
I
know
I
have
is
I,
have
leadership,
skills
I
can
build
the
right
team.
J
You
know
the
team
I,
the
team
I
build,
are
passionate
about
Redevelopment,
you
know
I.
Can
you
can
teach
somebody
skills?
The
passion
for
redevelopment
and
cras
is
something
you
it's
it's
it's
in
you
or
it
isn't,
and
usually
you
have
some
experience
in
it
because
somebody's
taught
you
that
this
is
you
know
that
this
is
the
way
you
know,
you
think
very,
very
specific
way,
and
you
get
things
done
now.
K
B
Talk
about
project
management,
I'm
of
the
firm
believe
if,
if
I
had
been
a
director
and
not
going
back
with
Mr,
drumko
and
Miss
Travis,
because
they
work
as
a
team
and
they
have
some
level
of
experience
and
they've
been
moving
some
things.
But
I
guess
for
me:
if
I
were
a
director
and
I
have
a
a
non-driving
component,
I
I
want
all
the
resources
to
go
to
that
that
Team
all
the
team
to
go
to
that
particular
area
to
make
that
thrive,
even
if
I
have
to
Outsource
someone
to
make
those
projects
run.
B
J
Correct
and
I
am
I'm
a
firm
believer
in
the
use
of
Consultants.
You
know
you
don't
have
not
everybody
that
has
a
skill
sets
are
going
to
be
on
staff.
You
need
a
few
key
people
that
that
really
know
how
to
move
projects
forward
and
be
the
leaders
of
projects,
but
your
your
support
staff
certainly
can
be
Consultants,
you
know
being
in
the
businesses
for
the
last
10
years.
I
am
you
know
familiar
with
many
many
consultants
from
you
know,
designers
to
engineering
firms
to
safety
analysis.
J
You
know,
we've
we've
worked
with
Consultants
that
are
really
experts
in
their
field,
so
I
would
bring
that
that
knowledge
to
be
able
to
to
to
retain
Consultants
as
well
I.
Think
it's
important.
You
have
to
build
your.
You
know
it's
not
going
to
be
done
by
by
one
or
two
people
and
I'm
very
comfortable
working
with
and
leading
vendors
and
Consultants.
A
A
A
E
You
thank
you
again,
Council
or
CRA
board.
Sorry,
we
have
our
last
candidate
before
you
I'm,
going
to
introduce
you
to
Jesus
Nino
he's
no
stranger
to
you
after
he
does
his
introduction.
Tell
you
a
little
bit
about
his
background.
You
can
start
answering
asking
any
questions
of
him
and
then
you
could
have
further
instructions
once
you're
finished
with
that
interview.
So
thank
you.
G
G
G
After
that
I
switched
over
and
became
the
first
member
for
Largo's
economic
development
team
one-man
show
for
a
while,
but
city
of
Largo
also
had
they
needed
help
in
their
planning.
Division
short
staffed,
I
stepped
up
started,
helping
them
do
development
review
alarm
range
planning,
but
under
the
condition
that
I
would
take
on
their
most
complicated
projects,
not
little
projects
which
I
did
once
in
a
while,
because
I
needed
to
help
so
I
took
on
their
biggest
most
complex
special
area
plans.
G
G
They
had
no
planner,
no
planning
manager,
it
was
just
directors,
so
I
was
their
principal
planner
did
that
for
a
few
years
or
actually
for
a
year,
also,
what's
their
floodplain
administrator
for
their
year
after
that,
moved
over
to
Bradenton
became
the
central
community
redevelopment
agency
manager.
There
it's
a
little
bit
different,
it's
one
of
the
unicorns
at
that
time
where
the
agency
board
was
not
city
council,
it
was
actually
composed
of
other
members
of
the
community.
So
it's
a
separate
just
like
here.
G
One
of
the
reasons
why
I
actually
chose
Redevelopment
is
because
when
I
was
doing,
Economic
Development
and
doing
planning
we're
usually
doing
I
was
doing
the
so-called
corporate
welfare.
We
were
doing
the
qualified,
targeted
Industries.
We
were
going
out
there
sitting
down
with
the
big
corporations,
the
top
500
corporations
and
so
forth,
trying
to
give
them
incentives
to
come
in,
but
then
I
started
helping
out
was
Redevelopment.
B
First,
one
tell
me
what
our
problem
is
with
our
cras
from
top
down
and
secondly,
how
would
you
correct
them
and
fix
them
now?
We
know
Miss
Travis
has
been
here
a
while
and
has
been
turning
this
train
around
and
getting
onto
on
the
right
track.
So
how
do
you
continue
to
lead
that?
What
are
our
problems
and
how
can
you
fix
them?
Well,
first,.
G
Elise
and
Nicole,
they
are
a
godsend.
They
have
turned
that
train.
They
have
steered
Us
in
the
right
direction
and
we're
getting
there.
The
problems
I
see
is
organizational.
It's
a
lack
of
understanding
of
what
the
CRA
actually
is
they're
confused
in
the
city
with
the
CRA.
Yes,
your
city
council,
but
you're,
also
CRA,
board
of
directors,
City
staff
and
not
CRS
staff.
City
staff
needs
to
understand
that
the
agency
is
completely
separate.
It
is
a
separate
entity.
G
It's
an
agency
community
redevelopment
agency
need
to
realize
that
whenever
we
undertake
projects,
initiatives
or
whatever
that
may
be,
they
need
to
understand
that
us
as
staff
we're
actually
doing
work
for
the
CRA.
You
have
your
funds,
which
they
need
to
understand
how
those
funds
are
used.
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
education
out
there
as
far
as
the
city
is
being
educated
on
what
cras
can
and
can't
do.
G
They
need
to
understand
how
we
were
able
to
use
our
funds
understand
that
we
have
CRP
plans
and
that's
what
we
do
it
has
to
be
in
your
community
redevelopment
plan
has
to
be
statutorily
correct.
It
has
to
be
in
your
budget
if
it's
not
in
there,
we
shouldn't
be
doing
it.
Now
we
have
that
we
have
to
be
extremely
creative
with
them
that
so
we're
not
trying
to
say
no,
we
just
need
to
be
creative
within
what
we
got.
G
City
staff
need
to
understand
we're
separate
I'm
City
staff
by
the
way,
as
a
director
I
will
be
City
staff,
but
will
be
contracted
for
the
CRA.
That's
the
client,
that's
who
tells
us
what
to
do
with
our
plans
and
our
statutes.
Basically
right
now,
what
I
see
is
that
staff
is
not
saying
anything
bad.
The
way
it's
composed
a
structure,
but
if
I
was
to
become
the
director
I
would
clear
that
table
and
I
would
reset
that
table
the
way
it's
set
up
right
now.
G
The
structure
and
the
Community
Development
Department
was
15
years
ago.
We
need
to
go
evaluate
ourselves.
What
are
the
needs
now
and
restructure
our
department?
It
needs
to
have
a
hard
set
reset
big
time.
I
think
Nicole
and
Elise
have
recognized
that
they
haven't
really
laid
out
any
plans.
They
might
have
on
that
to
me,
but
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
complete
reset.
G
G
Have
that
hard
reset
completely
same
thing
with
the
board
here,
Mr
Carlson's
passionate
to
bring
up
the
past,
but
he's
he
has
legitimate
concerns
and
I
respect
him
a
lot
big
time,
because
he's
I've
never
seen
someone
dig
into
Data
the
way
he
does
I
saw
him
in
the
budget
meeting
had
a
great
job
by
the
way,
but
there's
legitimate
concerns
that
we
need
to
put
that
behind
us.
Learn
from
it
and
just
move
forward.
G
Mend
those
relationship
with
the
city
with
the
community
sit
wisdom,
don't
be
afraid
to
get
out
there
and
that's
what
I
do
I
get
out
there.
I
walk
the
streets,
I'll
sit
down
as
a
homeless.
Individual
and
conversate
I'll
sit
down
with
a
developer
with
a
million
dollars
and
conversate.
So
I'm
comfortable
with
no
matter
where
I'm
at
I.
B
G
Me
that,
for
what
I
mean
by
that,
it's
not
letting
go
of
anybody.
We
have
a
talented
staff
right
now
that
staff
is
very
siled.
For
instance,
let's
say:
hopefully
nothing
ever
happens.
The
Ebor
City
staff
took
positions
somewhere
else
or
something
happened
for
someone
else
to
step
in
there
from
another
department,
another
division,
another
area,
Sierra
area.
It's
almost
like
starting
a
new
job,
we're
so
siled.
G
G
G
You
know
how
to
do
all
this,
for
instance,
I'm
short
staffed
it
it's
it's
just
the
way
the
setup
is
I'm
a
workaholic
I
work
and
work
work,
I,
try
to
work
smarter
and
I
reach
out
to
other
City
individuals
to
help
me
out,
but
the
same
time
as
a
structure
was
different.
I
wouldn't
be
struggling.
Someone
else
from
a
different
silo,
eliminate
those
step
in
immediately
to
help
quickly.
G
Are
the
project
managers
we
need
to
get
them
well
educated
as
to
what
they're
supposed
to
be
okay,
getting
more
educated,
make
sure
everyone
is
a
superstar.
Everyone
needs
to
be
that
leader.
If
a
director
left,
anyone
can
step
in
quickly
make
sure
that
everyone
knows
what
they're
doing
understand
statute
well
understands.
Their
plans
well
understands
that
policies
that
the
board
has
in
place
well
and
understands
pretty
much
anything
the
CRA
related.
G
G
Big
time
was
a
community,
so
I
have
a
lot
of
ideas
for
that.
As
far
as
those
managers
they
are
they're
supposed
to
be.
The
project
managers
I,
think
other
positions
should
be
restructured
a
little
bit
as
far
as
marketing
and
communication.
We
have
a
superstar.
There
needs
to
be
let
loose
so
just
Market.
What's
going
on
out
there
Market
our
programs
have
our
dashboards
for
performance
on
our
websites.
Just
keep
an
eye
on
every
all
our
progress
for
the
community
right
there
then
on
apps
on
social
media,
you
name
it
website.
G
Just
data
give
them
a
lot
of
debt,
give
them
all
the
data
they
got
be
as
transparent
as
possible.
Have
our
budgets
right
there
on
the
website?
Where
are
we
at
with
our
goal?
Is
for
that
budget?
How
much
have
we
spent
so
far
just
be
very
transparent,
just
give
it
to
them
and
work
with
them
in
constant
feedback,
one
other
things
I
do
notice.
Whenever
we
do
studies
out
there,
these
Consultants
they
come
in
with
extraordinary
ideas
on
how
to
engage
that
community
and
they
do
Engage
The
sap
for
East
Tampa.
G
They
had
all
these
ideas,
I'm,
not
saying
anything,
good
or
bad
about
that
sap
I'm.
Just
saying
some
of
the
methodologies
that
were
used
to
engage
the
community,
and
once
you
take
those
methodologies,
instead
of
just
being
stuck
in
that
plan,
they're
shelved
away
instead
and
staff
comes
back
and
does
same
old
same
old,
we
need
we
need
to
do
our
own
personal
swats,
our
team
SWAT
and
just
be
organic,
and
that's
one
of
the
things.
What
I
mean
by
reset
is
just
be
organic.
G
What
our
needs
do
our
own
needs
assessment,
working
with
that
community
and
administration
and
CRA
board,
which
is
most
important
because
CRA
board
ER
in
charge
of
the
agency
work
with
you
more
closely.
Whenever
we
do
talk
to
you
make
sure
there
are
conversations
not
just
telling
what
we're
doing
get
that
feedback
share,
that
feedback
with
each
other
and
just
change
if
something's
not
worth
it
changed,
that's
what
I
did
when
I
was
in
Largo
I
changed
that
staff.
When
I
took
over
that
planning
division,
it
changed
and
I
was
loved
for
it.
B
B
You
can
have
somebody
responsible
for
that
area,
but
it
should
be
a
A
system
that
everyone
knows
what's
going
on
and
again,
you've
made
mention
if
I've
got
East
Tampa
that
I
know
have
got
issues
I
want
everybody
to
running
over
there
as
they
put
those
ideas
to
get
it
moving.
So
I
I
appreciate
you
Canada
of
telling
us
that
again,
I
guess
to
me:
you
hit
the
Bell
twice
on
two
two
objectives.
Thank
you,
sir.
F
You
very
much
you
answered
a
few
questions
that
I
was
going
to
ask
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
appreciate
your
passion
and
also
know
that
we
don't
have
time.
Nor
do
we
have
room
for
error.
We
are
too
busy.
As
you
know,
as
a
city,
you
see
how
West
Tampa
has
been
how
Drew
park
has
been
all
that
area.
But
you
know
I
think
we're
experiencing
a
Renaissance.
F
I've
mentioned
this
with
other
candidates,
but
I
want
everybody
to
enjoy
those
fruits
and
again
East
Tampa
being
the
largest
CRA,
we've
seen
the
channel
District
Thrive
and
change,
and
continue
to
grow
in
downtown,
but
Equity
Equity
across
the
board.
So
we
all
win
all
citizens
of
Tampa
when
the
whole
Community
wins
and
I
appreciate
you
not
looking
just
outside
the
box,
thinking
outside
the
box,
but
know
how
it's
important
to
utilize
all
tools
that
are
available
to
us,
as
well
as
the
CAC
the
community's
voice.
F
It's
not
just
you
know
we're
the
board
and
we're
you
know
we
oversee
the
agency.
The
most
important
part
are
the
people
and
those
cacs,
as
you
know,
because
you
work
with
the
West
Tampa
ones,
very
passionate,
very
knowledgeable,
giving
their
time
for
free
as
volunteers,
because
they
want
to
see
this
community
when
I
say
community,
the
entire
city
succeed,
especially
those
areas
that
have
been
left
behind
and
and
Now's
the
Time
to
do
it.
There
is
no
reason
that
we
don't
look
back
5
10
20
years
from
now
and
say
that
we
failed.
F
You
know
the
the
opportunities
are
there
again.
You
know
now
the
the
iron
Aaron
is
is
hot,
it's
time
to
strike
and
not
leave
any
stone
unturned.
So
thank
you
for
your
passion,
you,
you
said
a
lot
of
good
things:
councilman
Goods!
You
know
you
rang
that
Bell
and-
and
we
appreciate
it.
Thank
you,
sir.
If.
G
G
F
I
appreciate
that
you
know
we
can
only
do
and
say
so
much
as
the
board
or
staff,
or
you
know
we're
within
the
purview
of
our
of
our
job
and
our
in
our
elected
position,
but
the
most
important
voice
here,
the
most
important
people,
the
cacs,
those
members
of
the
community,
because
they
have
you
know
we
get
a
certain
perspective
and
you
know
we
live
in
the
community
and
whatnot,
but
they
see
the
day-to-day
they.
They
hear
the
voices
of
the
people
they
see
where
we're
we're
lacking
and
it's
their
perspective.
F
That
is
the
most
valuable
and
important
and
again
they're
Limitless
knowledge,
because
no
one
sees
better
than
than
they
do
and
when
we
build
those
Community
Partnerships
and
bring
them
to
the
table
where
they're
not
wasting
their
time,
their
voices
are
heard
and
their
ideas
are
implemented
in
whatever
capacity
we're
allowed
to
do.
That's
the
most
important
thing
and
that's
what
will
allow
us
to
succeed
and
again,
there's
no
reason
why
we
fail
at
this
point.
F
H
G
Of
the
districts
recommending
a
hybrid
of
that
still
have
some
mostly
concentrated
in
their
areas,
because
he
still
needs
that
the
Ebor,
the
downtown
east,
Tampa
and
so
forth
still
needs
that
point
of
content.
But
if
we
modify
those
budgets,
they'll
be
able
to
be
part
of
different
teams
universally.
What.
G
H
So
I
want
to
ask
kind
of
two
different
corners
of
the
question
that
that
board
member
Goods
asked
yes,
sir,
about
the
past
three
and
a
half
years
ago
we
signed
a
new
agreement
with
the
administration
with
the
city,
and
we
had
high
expectations
about
how
things
would
go.
We
set
some
new
plans
and
ideas
and,
for
example,
we
we
I
think
unanimously
approved
creating
a
strategic
plan
for
the
CRA
board
and
three
and
a
half
years
later
that
didn't
happen.
H
H
We
we
a
couple
years
ago,
I
think
unanimously
agreed
that
as
much
as
30
percent
of
the
Sierra,
many
across
the
board
would
be
invested
in
affordable
housing
and
two
years
later,
the
Elise
and
I
think.
Maybe
you
and
others
have
have
been
before
the
cses
and
they
feel
blindsided
like
how.
How
could
they
send
come?
Tell
us
this.
They
weren't
told
two
and
a
half
years
ago.
So
could
you
tell
us,
maybe
a
little
bit
more
about
what
happened
in
the
last
three
years
that
that
didn't
like?
H
G
I
wasn't
here
for
three
complete
years:
I've
been
here
two
years.
One
of
my
recommendations
to
you
is
yeah.
Let's
learn
from
that
past.
Obviously,
because
it
did
happen,
it
is
already
written
in
stone
in
our
history
books,
but
it's
we
just
need
to
move
forward.
That's
basically
my
response
and
motions.
Whenever
you
give
a
motion,
staff
needs
to
follow
through
and
they
need
to
be
held
accountable
if
they
don't,
because
you
are
the
board.
G
Obviously,
if
we
see
something,
that's
not
correct
out
there,
let's
say
you're
going
against
a
CRP
against
the
budget
or
something
we
just
remind
you
of
that,
because
all
of
you
already
know
if
it's
not
in
a
plan,
if
it's
not
in
the
budget,
it's
not
that's
totally
right.
You
can't
do
it.
We
just
remind
you
sometimes,
but
as
far
as
what
the
past
was
learn
from
it.
If
you
give
a
motion,
staff
needs
to
follow
through
hold
them
accountable
immediately,
basically,
and
it's
as
simple
as
that,
they
need
to
be
just
executing
your
direction.
G
G
Close
to
what's
our
cacs
by
the
way,
because
you
need
to
work
with
that
Community
closely,
they're
very
knowledgeable
individuals
and
when
they
have
their
emotions,
those
emotions
need
to
be
responded
to
fast
too
and
then
brings
those
to
you.
So
you
can
make
your
your
ultimate
decisions
because
they
are
a
recommended
body.
Yes,
sir,
so.
H
It's
their
and
and
we've
explained
to
everybody
that
actually
the
city,
the
rest
of
the
city
is
subsidizing
these
districts
and
some
of
them
I
think
rightly
so,
some
of
them,
maybe
we
shouldn't
be
because
they
don't
have
that
some
areas,
don't
have
a
slim
and
blight,
but
but
we
need
to
listen
to
the
the
feedback
on
the
ground,
not
just
from
the
CSC
but
from
the
community
but
but
sitting
here.
We
also
have
the
perspective
of
hearing
from
the
public.
Every
week
we
get
hundreds
of
emails
a
week.
We
get
calls.
H
We
get
people
coming
before
us
and
we're
connected
to
the
front
line.
Also,
and
the
biggest
drum
beat
we've
heard
of
the
last
few
years-
is
affordable,
housing
and
don't
name
any
names,
but
I
I
heard
30
hand
that
either
you
or
at
least
presented
to
the
West
Tampa
CAC
the
other
day,
and
somebody
said
how
dare
they
tell
us
how
to
spend
our
money?
How?
How
would,
or
how
did
you
respond
to
that.
G
Well,
West
Tampa
is
a
very
knowledgeable
group.
There's
some
ones
that
come
here
and
say.
Why
are
you
doing
this
sap
when
your
CRP
is
what
really
matters
so
I'm,
not
going
to
say
anything
about
West,
Tampa,
they're,
they're,
gifted
individuals,
very
talented
individuals
by
the
way,
I
think
more,
is
that
staff
needs
to
be
educating
the
community
a
little
bit
better
as
far
as
cre
part
we're
not
going
to
educate
them
on
anything
of
the
issues
that
are
out
there.
G
They
educate
us
on
that,
but
as
far
as
how
cra's
work
educate
them
a
little
bit
more
on
what
their
purpose
is.
Basically
what
what
they're
there
for
they're
going
to
recommend
recommendations
to
the
CRA
board?
It's
more
education,
education,
education,
us
listening
to
them
because
they
tell
us
what
the
issues
are
and
they
give
us
ideas
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
bring
it
to
you.
Er
is
a
board,
so
you
make
a
decision,
but
there's
still
and
I
agree
with
you.
The
rest
is
because
they
are
a
sample
of
the
community.
G
G
H
Last
question
Tampa
right
now
is
under
the
second
civil
U.S,
just
Department
Civil
Rights
investigation.
In
seven
years,
Tampa
Times
had
two
investigative
series.
2015
was
biking
while
black,
the
recent
one
is
called
renting,
while
black
they
were
created
by
the
last
Administration,
not
by
any
of
us,
but
still
we
have
people
coming
before
us
every
day
and
and
during
at
the
George
Floyd
we
had
150
or
more
people
coming
into
city
council
and
the
CRA
board
talking
to
us
about
it.
G
It
wasn't
really
what
some
people
would
caucus.
It
was
oppression
for
those
distressed
communities,
African-American
communities,
minority
communities,
as
there
was
oppression
for
years.
That's
why
they're
in
the
condition
they're
in
now
we're
trying
to
write
that
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
ways
we
do
that
is
through
Partnerships.
We
need.
Yes,
we
stay
in
our
land
as
far
as
what
we
do
statutorily,
but
we
need
to
create
more
Partnerships
with
organizations
with
send
those
cras,
non-profits
face-based
organizations,
I'm,
not
saying
fund
any
of
them,
because
you
can't
do
that.
You
know
we.
G
We
do
our
thing,
but
we
just
need
a
partner
together
to
build
that
Synergy
with
Credit
Unions
with
the
banks.
There's
the
CRA
statute,
the
other
CRA
Community
reinvestment
act
that
those
banks
have
to
reinvest
back
into
those
under
capitalized
communities.
There
are
cdfis
community
development,
financial
institutions,
that's
what
they
do.
They
work
in
those
low
moderate
income
communities,
there's
mdis
they're,
basically,
minority
depository
institutions,
I'm,
not
sure
how
many
there
are
in
this
area.
There's
the
credit
unions,
all
those
different
bodies.
G
They
provide
that
access
to
Capital
to
those
communities
and
if
we
Bridge
those
gaps
because
I
hate
to
say
it
whenever
we
I'm
getting
a
little
off
topic
here,
we'll
create
a
grant
that
Grant
isn't
really
filling
a
gap.
It's
not
bridging
that
Gap
from
distress
to
success.
It's
just
not
I,
was
very
proud
of
Miss
Allison
Hewitt
when
she
came
out
was
the
whole
pre-development
cause,
because
that
was
helping
Bridge
a
gap
create
a
facade
Grant.
A
vanilla
show
that
I
wrote
it's
not
bridging
any
kind
of
Gap.
G
It's
just
kind
of
dangling
it
there
for
individuals
and
they
can't
get
to
it.
Pre-Development
costs
as
one
of
the
ways
to
bridge
but
just
Partnerships
Partnerships
is
key.
Getting
those
individuals
access
to
financial
resources,
access
to
other
resources,
we're
not
going
to
pay
for
it.
We
just
Bridge
those
those
we
just
throw
our
tentacles
out
there
and
create
all
these
Partnerships
to
have
individuals
be
able
to
have
access
to
all
these
services,
and
we
do
what
we
do
a
lot
of
it's
Band-Aid
issues,
but
some
of
those
true
root
cause
issues.
G
They're
still
there
big
time
we
can
put
a
streetscape
down
all
day
long
make
it
look.
Beautiful,
might
even
scatter
some
of
the
individuals
that
businesses
complain
about,
but
they're
just
going
somewhere
else.
Those
issues
aren't
being
solved.
The
crime's
still
there,
those
Partnerships
help
us
combat
those
root
issues
and
just
better
that
Community
quicker
through
synergy
I'm,
not
sure.
If
I
answered
your
question,
but
that's
an
answer.
L
K
L
Never
have
development
because
they're
not
going
to
come,
they
have
to
people
see
with
their
eyes
and
and
that's
what
makes
somewhere
I
want
to
be
here.
I,
don't
want
to
be
here
so
if,
if
that
30
percent
is
not
going
into
building
something
all
along
and
you
can't
build
one
house
and
one
block
in
another
house,
five
blocks
around
because
you
can't
see
it,
it's
got
to
be
blocks
at
a
time,
so
people
want
to
see
they
see
wow.
It
really
has
changed.
You
may
spend
the
same
amount
of
money
and
have.
L
G
As
far
as
affordable
housing,
it's
an
extremely
complicated
issue.
I
have
obviously
all
these
think
tanks
all
over
the
place
are
getting
together
to
try
to
come
up
with
Solutions
density
bonuses,
Land
Trust,
all
those
are
tools.
As
a
CRA
one
of
the
things
we
can
probably
start
doing
again
that
I
noticed
that
Tampa
doesn't
do.
Cr
is
Tiff
rebates.
G
We
don't
need
to
be
doing
Tiff
rebates
for
a
hotel,
but
maybe
we
do
it
for
an
affordable
housing
project,
not
the
entire
increment,
given
back,
but
at
least
maybe
a
portion
of
it
for
a
certain
amount
of
years.
If
they
enter
into
like
a
land
use
restriction
agreement
for
set-aside
units,
that's
one
of
the
things
work.
One
of
the
biggest
issues
that
I
see
with
municipalities
is
also
their
regulations.
G
They
slow
down
things
and
I,
see
the
city
they're,
very
talented,
Planet,
there's
Stephen
Benson
he's
a
superstar
by
the
way
you
have
a
lot
of
superstars
in
the
city
need
to
be
tapped
into
you
know.
If
we
can
get
those
regulations
a
little
bit
more
streamlined
as
they
take
away
some
of
that
cost
and
time
there's
just
so.
Many
techniques,
obviously
the
city,
has
their
density
bonuses,
they
use
development
agreements
and
so
forth
us
as
a
cra
again,
whatever
we
do
capital
projects
and
all
the
other
good
stuff.
G
L
B
B
J
B
There
are
a
lot
of
rules
that
you
guys
don't
know
about.
You
know
you,
where
you
defend,
sometimes
that
you
really
don't
know
what
you're
defending,
because
you've
never
been
a
city
employee
to
understand
what
sometimes
they
go
through.
I
would
chain
of
command
or
saying
certain
things
that
shouldn't
be
said
or
told,
but
sometimes
you
do
get.
People
like
I
was
one
of
those
guys
that
got
in
trouble.
I'm
gonna
say
what
I
got
to
say.
B
You
couldn't
say
something,
but
I
can
say
it
because
it
I
know
how
the
organization
works.
It's
causing
those
things
get
done,
didn't
get
done
because
they
were
told
not
to
get
done.
That's
why
I
didn't
get
done.
It
wasn't
a
time
for
that
when
we're
not
ready
for
that
yet
hold
them
at
Bay.
Right
now,
as
you
recall,
I
said
our
last
manager
director
was
overwhelmed
and
kept
saying
you
need
to
hire
someone
to
help
you
because
you're
overwhelmed
you
got
Acres.
You
can't
be
one
person
trying
to
run
any
state
cras.
B
B
You
have
to
understand
the
process
so
I
I
know
you
stayed
at
Bay
with
some
of
the
questions.
Mr
answered
that
Mr
crossovers
asked
you
that's
why
I
stepped
in
to
say
I
know
the
process
and
I
know
what
has
happened
because
I've
been
there
but
I
I'd
like
to
know
you
were
caring
about
the
oppression,
because
that
is
true.
Communities
were
red
line,
that's
where
your
oppression
came
in.
B
B
B
My
mindset
would
be
I
got
to
deal
with
that.
So
how
do
you
deal
with
the
problem
at
hand?
You've
been
here
tell
us
the
problem
at
hand
with
that
particular
area
and
how
you
can
go
in
and
fix
or
be
able
to
start
miss
the
drumko
and
Miss
Travis
has
kind
of
started
it.
How
do
you
get
a
little
more
steam?
Tell
me
how
we.
G
G
Let's
do
it
I'm,
not
sure
I'm
not
used
to
having
a
city
own
properties
for
cro
when
it's
used
for
test
funding.
I
just
came
from
a
different
world
where,
if
the
CRA
spent
at
Tiff
funds,
they
got
bought
and
put
under
the
ownership
of
that
CRA
and
I
think
most
of
the
cras
out
there
do
that
that
might
speed
up
the
process
as
well.
G
At
the
end
of
the
day,
once
these
Sunset
it's
going
to
transfer
over
to
the
city
unless
they've
been
sold
to
a
property
owner
for
some
reason,
correct
and
it's
I
would
just
try
to
find
those
inefficiencies
fix
them
as
quick
as
possible.
I
am
kind
of
looking
at
other
models.
For
instance,
I
did
work
for
Largo
and
I
know
they
started
shifting
over
to
high
performance
type
organization
there.
As
far
as
where
everybody
becomes
a
leader
everybody's,
efficient
in
skills
and
every
single
time,
you
find
some
kind
of
impediment.
G
You
fix
that
quickly,
don't
let
it
Linger
on
so
I'm
looking
at
those
type
models
to
bring
here.
As
far
as
to
make
sure
our
organization,
it's
moving
projects
quickly
correctly
and
the
right
way
and
whatever
impacts
they
have
for
the
future
are
extremely
minimal,
but
for
the
most
part,
make
a
big
difference
out
there.
H
I'm
sorry
I
just
have
to
follow
up
and
Jesus
is
here
you
can
you
answer
very
diplomatically,
so
you
could
say
something
or
not
say
something
but
board.
Member
Goods,
you
just
said
rolling
back
a
little
bit.
You
said
that
staff
were
told
not
to
implement
certain
projects.
Do
you
have
any
evidence
of
that.
B
Me
finish,
you
ask
the
questions.
I
I
might
be
evidence
to
that.
I
just
know
her
being
a
long
time
employee
how
the
process
works
and
I
see
the
city
employees
over
here
that
they
put
their
head
down
because
they
know
where
I'm
going.
They
know
how
it
works.
It's
just
a
process
within
the
city
of
the
structure
of
this,
what
they
call
form
of
government.
We
have
so
you're
not
going
to
go
against
the
balls.
You're,
not
gonna,
say
you've
been
told.
Don't
you
tell
I've
heard.
H
I'll
just
say
and
I
know
it's
slightly
off
subject,
but
there's
a
lot
of
evidence
or
information.
We've
heard
rumors
for
three
years,
there's
a
lot
of
evidence
and
information
that
started
circulating
about
how
staff
looks
at
city
council
and
and
how
they,
how
they
treat
city
council,
and
it's
very
disturbing
and
even
I,
would
tell
my
colleagues
as
you
start
to
see
any
of
it.
Even
if
you're
not
a
target
of
it.
H
I
hope
you'll
be
disturbed
by
it,
because
it's
not
the
professional
collaborative
way
we
should
be
working
and
if
there
is
any
evidence
of
that
occurring
in
the
CRA,
we
should
service
sit
and
find
out
about
it.
And
just
so
everybody
knows
I'm
a
collaborative
person
until
nobody
listens.
I've
had
in
the
last
three
days,
two
conversations
with
the
chief
of
staff
and
one
with
the
city
attorney
because
I'm
concerned.
This
is
not
how
a
city
should
operate.
G
B
G
Back
on
the
tracks
here,
if
I
was
first
of
all,
I
was
never
privy
to
whatever
happened
as
far
as
that,
because
I
was
always
focused
on
the
ball
doing
what
I
had
to
do
had
Drew
Park
in
West
Tampa,
working
with
your
direction,
working
with
his
communities
and
so
forth.
If
I
became
director,
my
focus
is
the
cras.
Whatever
happened
happened
and
I
respectfully,
you
know,
would
ask
Mr
Carlson
Let's
us
these
are
bigger
ones
and
move
this
train
forward.
More
just
continue
that
ball
rolling
with
that
momentum's
already
been
created.
G
Do
our
thing,
their
Superstar
staff
members
there
they're
like
me,
they
were
focused
on
what
they
got
to
do.
They're
not
focused
on
all
the
politics
out
there.
Yes,
we're
aware
of
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
I
was
never
in
any
of
those
conversations.
I
was
just
focused
on
what
I
got
to
do
and
that's
what
I
would
do
as
a
director
focus
on
how
to
improve
that
Community
how
to
work
with
you?
How
to
mend
any
relationship
I
have
to.
H
The
community
got
humiliated
and
it
almost
destroyed
their
Capital
campaign,
where
they're
putting
in
75
million
to
improve
a
city
facility
and
the
other
one
was
the
Jackson
house
where
we
put
in
a
million
dollars,
and
there
was
a
press
conference
where
we
weren't
told
about
it.
We
weren't
invited
and
so
I
think
it
there's
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
need
to
change
going
forward,
and
hopefully
everyone
will
approach
this
from
a
different
perspective.
Thank
you.
A
A
So
this
isn't.
This
is
an
example
where
you
got
pushed
back
from
the
community.
How
were
you
able
to
still
communicate
that
and
push
things
forward,
and
let
them
know
that
that
this
was
an
edict
that
was
coming
down?
How
how?
How
were
you
able
to
do
that,
and,
and
basically
just
let
them
know
that
that
it,
that
it
wasn't
going
to
be
different.
G
It
said
whatever
they
were
going
to
say
they
made
their
point
and
their
point
was
conversate
with
them
at
least
a
little
bit
earlier
than
just
kind
of
just
throwing
it
at
them.
If
they're
part
of
that
conversation
at
the
end
of
the
day,
they
understand
those
issues
that
are
out
there.
They
understand.
G
I
think
that
and
I
kind
of
agreed
with
some
of
them
with
most
of
them
as
far
as
what
their
issues
was,
they
need
to
be
approached.
They
need
to
be
part
of
that
table
to
discuss
things
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Whatever
Direction
the
CRA
board
makes
they
need
to
understand
their
recommended
body,
but
at
least
they're
part
of
that
conversation,
and
they
do
because
otherwise
they
would
have
been
at
your
CRA
board.
G
Well,
if
I
have
a
disagreement,
it
depends
what
that
disagreement
is
going
to
be
about.
If
it's,
if
I,
think,
if
something
has
to
do
with
statute
cre
plans
or
our
budget,
then
I'm
going
to
let
you
know,
and
if
I'm
not
sure
we
got
legal
counsel
to
step
in
on
that.
If
it's
more
of
a
policy
issue
or
other
directions
whatever
you
may
have,
then
I'm
going
to
do
whatever
you
tell
me
to
do
if
I
see
something
that
I
think
is
not
correct,
I'll
bring
it
up
or
if
I
want
to
give.
G
E
And
are
you
hungry
and
ready
to
get
out?
So
thank
you
very
much
for
having
the
interview
this.
This
morning.
We
have
the
meet
and
greet
this
afternoon.
I'm
here
at
the
convention,
center
6
p.m,
to
7
30..
There
is
a
parking
code
for
anyone
from
the
public
that
wants
to
come.
They
will
not
have
to
pay
for
that.
There
will
be
Refreshments
if
there
are
any
comments
that
you
would
like
to
provide
me
offline
would
like
to
talk
about
it.
E
We
you
can
do
that
if
you
need
additional
information,
I'm
happy
to
support
you
with
that
next
week,
Wednesday
on
October
26
at
9
00
a.m.
Here
at
the
convention
center
in
this
room,
we
will
have
the
final
decision
and
discussion
of
your
CRA
director
and
how
would
you
would
like
to
proceed?
Okay
board
member.
B
Goods,
that's
fine,
but
I.
I
would
also
like
for
you
to
you've,
heard
the
candles
today
as
well.
You'll
see
them
tonight
with
immediate
with
community
members.
I
would
like
to
see
you
bring
back
some
recommendations
as
well
to
this
board,
so
we
will
be
going
back
and
forth
that
you
can
kind
of
tell
us
how
you,
how
you
feel
or
what
the
directions
for
so
I
would
like
some
direction.
As
far
as
recommendation
from
you
and
Mr
drunk
was
you
work
together
on
this
at
the
present
to
the
board
as
well.
A
E
E
Know
about
your
conflict
and
I'm
happy
to
talk
to
you
offline
and
bring
that
feedback
to
the
council.
Some
of
the
things
that
you
heard
in
the
discussions
today
I
want
to
remind
you
that
November
we're
bringing
back
the
30
recommendation
from
each
of
the
CRA
districts
on
how
they
are
going
to
be
used
for
affordable
housing
in
December
I'm,
bringing
back
to
you
a
recommendation
on
Staffing.