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A
The
city
of
tampa
community
redevelopment
agency
meeting
is
called
to
order.
I
believe
that
councilman
goodz
has
our
invocation
this
morning.
C
Hath,
provided
we
come
now
to
thank
you
for
this
day,
one
that
we
have
never
seen
before,
and
we
pray
now
thy
blessings
upon
this
meeting
this
morning.
We
pray
that
your
peace,
your
love
and
your
harmony
will
abide.
We
thank
you
for
each
council
member
and
we
pray
that
you
would
bless
their
homes
and.
C
A
C
Yes
ma'am:
this
is
the
september
eight
night,
the
2022
meeting
of
the
city
of
tampa
community
development
agency
or
the
cra
held
in
city
council
chambers
on
the
third
floor
of
old
city
hall,
315
east
kennedy
boulevard
here
in
tampa
florida.
The
public
is
able
to
attend
this
meeting
either
in
person
or
to
view
it
by
cable,
television
on
spectrum,
cable,
640
or
frontier
channel
15
or
by
the
internet
via
www.tampa.gov
livestream.
C
The
public
is
also
able
to
participate
in
this
meeting
during
public
comment
for
a
maximum
three
minutes
per
speaker
either
here
in
person
in
city,
council
chambers,
or
virtually
by
way
of
communication,
media
technology
or
cmt.
However,
the
use
of
cmt
does
require
pre-registration
with
the
city
clerk's
office.
Directions
for
pre-registration
are
included
in
the
notice
of
this
meeting
and
on
the
agenda.
C
A
B
A
Okay,
miss
travis.
Are
there
any
changes
to
our
agenda
this
morning.
F
F
This
request
came
because
they
would
like
to
have
additional
discussions
about
these
items
before
they're
brought
back
to
this
board
for
additional
consideration
or
action,
and
if
the
board
concurs
with
that
request,
we're
requesting
that
to
be
placed
on
the
november
10th
cra
agenda.
Please
exactly.
A
A
You
would
like,
thanks
all
in
favor
aye,
okay,
any
that.
F
A
Seven,
eight
and
eleven
all
three
have
been
moved
to
november
10,
yes,
and
that's
it.
Okay,
thank.
B
You
very
much
wonderful
item
number
one,
but
I'm
gonna
ask
for
a
point
of
personal
privilege,
as
it
relates
to
item
number
one
when
we
get
to
that.
A
Okay,
so
then
we
approved
the
agenda.
Okay.
Now
we
are
moving
to
public
comment.
The
public
is
welcome
to
comment
on
any
on
any
item
for
up
to
three
minutes.
H
H
I
was
thinking
today
for
the
first
thursday.
I
think
you
know
all
these
policemen
and
mail
will
be
here
today,
so
we
could
tell
them
something
they
don't
want
to
invite
us
in
when
they're.
Here
they
put
a
lock
on
the
door
and
the
police
tell
me
you
can't
come
in,
but
I
got
a
lot
to
tell
her
because
I
don't
know
is
being
gay,
a
gender
nationality.
H
Can
one
of
y'all
tell
me
cause
she
says
she's
gay
and
I
want
to
know
exactly
what
that
is.
I
know
y'all
won't,
give
me
an
interpretation
what
it
is,
because
it's
not
right
inside
of
god,
but
one
thing
y'all
must
know
about
frank,
william,
I
don't
think
I'm
gay
and
I
got
to
preach
is
true
whether
they
want
to
be
gay
or
not
that's
their
problem.
H
I
thank
god,
I'm
straight
and
that's
the
way
it
is,
and
I
know
y'all
hate
to
see
me
come
up
here.
I
see
a
lot
of
heads
going
down,
but
that's
all
right
when
I
was
here
last
time.
Some
guy
called
me
on
the
phone
and
told
me
he
said
you
blind
bastard.
You
need
to
go
back
home,
go
back
where
you
come
from,
and
so
he
didn't
give
me
a
chance
to
respond.
H
He
hung
up.
If
I'm
not
to
him,
then
he
might
be
something
worse
to
me
and
that's
the
way
I
look
at
it,
but
we
got
to
understand
we're
people
created
by
god.
Not
only
are
we
created
by
god,
but
we
created
in
his
image
and
his
likeness,
and
so
why
people
hate
us
so
bad.
I
don't
understand
and
y'all
messed
around
that
and
they
filled
me
up
in
my
church.
They
cut
my
water
off
from
the
church.
H
They
took
my
parking
lot
from
me
at
my
church,
then
I
did
me
so
much
dairy
and
one
time
they
set
the
church
on
fire
and
that
that's
how
nasty
people
are
people,
because
you
don't
respond
the
way
they
want
you
to
respond.
They
let
you
know-
and
I
thank
god
that
they
do.
Let
me
know,
because
I
don't
want
nobody
sneaking
up
on
me,
stabbing
me
in
my
back
or
my
chest
or
whatever
they
want
to
do,
but
they
I
get
a
lot
of
an
ass
through
that
and
they
they
basically
coming
from
people.
H
I
Tampa
florida
you
have
to,
when
you
become
an
adult
anytime,
you
see
or
hear
an
injustice.
You
got
to
put
it
in
check
right
away.
Mr
williams,
you
cannot
keep
hating
on
what
people.
Let
people
have
the
right
to
be
what
they
want
to
be
and
be
free
from
those
kind
of
comments?
That's
so
wrong,
and
it's
so
it's
hateful
and
we
can't
talk
about
god
and
then
talk
about
whatever.
Let
a
person
be
what
they
want
to
be.
I
If
they
not
offending
you
physically,
you
don't
have
to
sleep
with
them
or
you
don't
have
to
be
with
them.
You
don't
even
have
to
socialize
with
them.
If
you
don't
like
it,
but
I
hope
this
isn't
using
my
time,
but
I
was
personally
offended
by
that
and
mr
williams,
you
really
got
to
get
that
together.
That's
that's
a
personal
hang
up,
you
have,
and
everybody
have
freedom
of
speech
and
freedom
of
belief
and
believe
what
you
want
to
believe
and
that's
good,
but
that's
wrong.
It's
absolutely
positively
wrong.
All
right!
I
The
the
what
I'm
here
to
speak
on
is
the
fact
that
when
you
hear
injustice,
when
you
see
it,
you
got
to
do
something
about
it,
and
I
heard
it
tuesday,
when
this
man
called
for
more
police
and
more
code
enforcement.
That's
racist!
Now!
That's
racist
yeah!
That's
racist!
That's
absolutely
positively
racist!
That's
like
when
white
people
think
they
can
make
black
jokes
in
our
faces
and
because
they
believe
we're
less
than
a
human
being.
We
don't
supposed
to
catch
on
that.
We
was
just
offended.
I
I
Why
is
this
white
man
calling
for
more
police
and
more
code
enforcement
because
he's
calling
for
bad
things
to
happen
to
african
people
he's
calling
for
bad
things
to
happen
to
african
people
in
our
face
in
our
face
and
we're
supposed
to
accept
that
and
laugh
and
kiki,
and
all
that
and
he
all
through
our
neighborhoods
all
through
our
meetings?
That's
hateful
and
inspiteful,
and
it's
disrespectful
and
it's
demeaning
and
it
was
in
our
face
and
I'm
back
in
your
face.
Yeah,
we
need
more
police
officers.
I
We
need
a
police
officer
to
govern
and
watch
every
police
officer,
especially
for
what
they
do
to
african
people.
They
treat
us
like
dirk
and
the
other
representatives
talk
about
what's
going
on
down
at
the
mayor's
office
and
what
they're,
using
company
time
for
they've
been
doing
it.
It's
a
crooked
city
code
enforcement,
crooked,
crooked,
all
throughout
the
black
community,
crooked,
putting
fines
in
black.
I
I
know
it
and
I
feel
it
every
day
personally
hitting
me
with
millions
of
dollars
worth
of
fines,
property,
fines,
housing,
fines
for
what
reason,
no
reason
they
hateful
they
nasty
and
a
man's
calling
for
more
police
officers.
Black
people
are
not
going
to
accept
that
insult.
We
see.
What's
going
on,
we
see
black
people
trying
to
stand
up
in
hillsborough
county
and
the
governor
trying
to
put
different
people
on
them.
Yeah,
yeah
tell
me
we
don't
want
y'all,
even
talking
about
being
woke.
I
C
Hi
everybody,
my
name,
is
chad,
tujog
from
the
patel
family
office
here
to
talk
about
housing.
C
I
know
that
there's
been
quite
an
influx
of
residents
and
and
developers
in
the
tampa
community
and
it's
kind
of
been
really
great
in
a
boone
for
the
community,
but
it's
been
fairly
hurtful
for
the
residents
that
live
here
as
far
as
affordability
goes,
so
dr
kieran
patel,
as
a
lot
of
you
guys
know
or
don't
know,
is
very
dedicated
to
increasing
accessible
housing
in
the
tampa
area,
whether
it's
working
with
wells,
fargo
or
jp
morgan
or
this
bank,
or
that
thing
to
get
things
like
litec,
nine
or
six
plus
three
credits
or
nmtc
credits
here
and
and
we're
doing
a
really
good
job.
C
I
think
we've
addressed
a
lot
of
the
thoughts
for
sustainability
transportation.
C
All
these
you
know,
transforming
tampa
tomorrow
for
what
your
guys's
goals
are
for
housing,
and
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
if
we
could
also
collaborate
with
the
cra
for
maybe
focusing
on
accessible
housing
in
like
the
central
park
cra
and
the
downtown
sierra.
C
So
that
was
my
kind
of
ask
for
today
is
if,
if
maybe
we
could
direct
some
conversations
in
that
direction,
because
I
think
we've
addressed
a
lot
of
the
problems
we've
come
in
with
some
algorithms,
so
that
the
community
that
is
here
that
built
the
city,
which,
I
think
is
you
know
with
high
prejudice,
one
of
the
best
cities
in
the
country
can
also
afford
to
live
here
as
well,
and
so
that's
all
I
have
thank
you
guys.
Thank
you.
E
Natasha
goodley,
I
just
wanted
to
2705
east
24th
avenue.
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
comment
because
it
was
brought
to
our
attention
that
coming
from
the
cra
board
that
it
was
said
that
the
east
campus
cra
was
united
to
come
and
complain,
but
when
it
gets
down
to
the
table
of
us
getting
work
done
that
it's
not
happening.
So
I
just
wanted
to
address
the
comment
because
we
are
united
and
we
are
working
to
get
things
done
and
we
do
have
quorum
there.
E
I
think
maybe
twice
we
did
it
and
unfortunately
we're
trying
to
work
on
that.
It's
something
we
are
actively
working
on,
but
we
do
have
quorum.
We
do
hold
meetings,
we
are
moving
forward
and
we
do
create
programs
and
many
of
the
programs
that
we
created
are
trying
to
be
duplicated
in
other
cras
across
this
city.
So
if
anything,
it
tells
me
that
we
are
a
leader
amongst
many
of
the
cras
and
they
really
would
like
to
do
some
of
the
things
we're
doing.
E
A
So
miss
travis.
Are
we
ready
to.
F
F
We
have
posted
with
a
lot
of
the
national
associations,
the
florida
redevelopment
association
and
we
have
four
qualified
candidates
to
present
to
you,
and
so
I
need
some
direction
from
the
board
this
morning
of
the
four
applicants
that
meet
the
minimum
qualifications,
we're
hoping
to
schedule
initial
interviews
from
mid
to
late
september,
I
would
like
to
narrow
the
search
to
three
qualified
candidates.
I
don't
really
want
to
present
you
with
two
in
case
one
takes
a
job
somewhere
else.
F
You
should
have
choices
and
options,
and
I
want
to
remind
you
that
this
is
your
process.
I
am
just
trying
to
guide
it
to
do
it,
based
on
the
guidance
that
you
have
provided
and
at
the
last
cra
board
meeting.
There
was
a
comment
made
that
the
cra
board
should
be
involved
in
the
interview
process,
and
so,
if
that
is
your
desire,
there's
a
couple
ways
that
we
can
do
that.
F
I
can
narrow
it
down
to
three
qualified
applicants
for
you
and
then
schedule
seven
meetings
with
each
of
the
qualified
candidates,
and
it
would
be
individual
meetings
if
you
wanted
to
do
that
outside
of
the
sunshine.
If
you
want
to
do
one
meeting,
we
would
have
to
publicly
notice
that
meeting
and
then
we
can
have
the
candidates
and
take
turns
doing
that
interview.
So
I'm
looking
for
some
guidance
for
you.
F
If
I'm
shooting
for
final
interviews
and
the
public
meet
and
greet
we
told
this
board,
it
would
be
our
recommendation
that
you
have
a
lot
of
cacs
that
are
very
engaged
and
your
cra
director
should
be
engaged
with
all
of
the
districts
and
the
cacs
are
a
big
part
of
our
cras
and
so
we're
recommending
to
do
a
public
meet
and
greet
I'm
shooting
for
october
3rd
through
the
week
of
october
3rd
through
the
6th.
But
that
highly
depends
on
availability
and
calorie
calendaring
it.
B
Well,
I
want
to
speak
about
something
else,
but
I
can
speak
on
this
latter
part.
I
mean,
I
think,
that.
B
We
have
our
opportunity
to
interview
the
candidates.
The
public
has
a
a
way
of
engaging
with
the
cacs,
so
they
can
see
who
they're?
Who,
who
are
candidates
and
see
that
candidate
fits
our
city
and
can
fit
in
with
our
cras,
because
I
like
to
see
the
work
history,
let's
see
what
people
have
done
other
places.
If
I'm
gonna
choose
a
candidate,
what
what
can
you
keep
my
train
going
right
now?
That's
the
person
I'm
looking
for
during
this
process.
F
Okay
momentum
is
is
extremely
important.
The
sierra-
let
me
just
make
a
general
comment
of
this,
I
think,
generally
from
a
cra.
The
purpose
of
a
cra
is
to
be
out
of
the
business
of
cra.
There
should
no
longer
be
slum
and
blight
that
a
cra
is
needed,
and
so
we
should
be
working
very
hard
and
diligently
to
eradicate
the
slum
and
blight
in
the
districts,
and
so
momentum
is
important.
Leadership
is
important
and
I'm
taking
this
process
very
seriously.
F
We
have
elise
and
I
have
been
working
really
hard
to
move
us
in
the
direction
that
this
board
wants
us
to,
and
so
whatever
your
guidance
is
for
us,
it
is
your
process,
and
so
as
soon
as
we
now,
if,
if
you're,
okay,
once
we
go
through
the
process-
and
I
get
your
concurrence
if
we
narrow
it
down
to
three
candidates,
for
you
I'll
turn
their
resumes
over
to
you,
so
that
you
have
time
to
review
it
and
ask
any
questions,
and
I
will
be
happy
to
be
of
service
to
you
throughout
this
process.
F
You've
been
the
intern
for
how
many
months
now
I
haven't
been
counting
counting.
I've
been
here
since
january,
I
don't
know,
I
have
to
go
back
and
look.
B
People
have
to
be
paid
for
their
work
and
we
have
a
budget
for
a
cra
director
and
they
need
to
be
paid
for
the
months
that
they've
been
working,
and
I
want
to
be
able
to
put
a
motion
on
the
floor
for
hr
and
the
finance
department
to
get
them
paid
for
the
months.
They've
been
working,
that's
no
more
than
right,
so
I
think
mr
carlson
is
already
second
to
that.
So
we
can
get
that
on
the
floor.
I
think
that
needs
to
be
handled
asap.
B
A
Okay,
so
I
have
a
motion
on
the
floor
from
board
member
goose
and
a
second
from
board
member
carlson.
Any
discussion.
A
Okay,
man,
all
in
favor
all.
A
Okay
board
member
carlson.
G
Of
all
the
thing,
the
line
you
just
said
about
putting
our
goal
should
be
to
put
the
cras
out
of
business
or
whatever
it
was.
You
said
you
said
that
several
times
you
said
it
to
me
privately,
and
I
applaud
that.
I
think
that's
exactly
what
we
should
be
doing.
You
know
we
were
supposed
to
do
strategic
planning
three
and
a
half
years
ago.
G
You
know
things
like
roof
programs
versus
facade
grants
we
need
to.
We
need
not
just
spend
money
because
we
have
it,
but
because
it's
the
right
kinds
of
projects-
and
so
I
hope
that
we
will
go
through
a
planning
process
and
that
we
can
do
something
like
that,
because
it
changes
the
whole
mindset.
When
you
remember
three
and
a
half
years
ago,
I
was
having
discussions
with
staff
and-
and
almost
everybody
argued
with
me
about
the
rest
of
the
city-
subsidizing.
G
The
way
they
thought
about
is
it's
their
money
and
it's
not
it's
it's
the
rest
of
the
city's
money
and
we're
custodians
of
it
and
and
since
the
rest
of
the
city
is
not
getting
their
potholes
filled
and
not
getting
their
benches
replaced
and
not
getting
their
parks
done
so
that
we
can
subsidize
these.
We
have
an
even
greater
standard
that
we
need
to
meet
to
try
to
do
this
so
anyway
to
the
to
the
the
new
director.
G
They
have
a
high
bar
to
try
to
hit
because
of
what
you
and
your
colleagues
have
done.
So
I
think
we
need
to
obviously
make
sure
we
get
the
very
best
person
if
you
shortlisted
four,
if
you've
shortlisted
four,
I
have
confidence
that
they're
good.
But
what
what
I
would
suggest
as
a
process
is
you're
not
allowed
to
to
take
a
a
secret
ballot,
but
I
think
you
could
get
input
from
each
of
us
just
pros
and
cons
of
each
of
the
candidates.
F
Okay,
so,
and
so
I
can,
I
can
totally
do
that.
I
would
just
schedule
individual
meetings
with
you
to
get
your
feedback.
One
of
the
things
that
I
would
be
looking
for
in
the
feedback
is:
what
exactly
do
you
want
from
this
candidate?
I
probably
would
be
interviewing
you
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
the
right
fit
with
the
candidates
that
you
have.
What
are
you
looking
for?
F
G
Know
what
you
might
do
since
you,
since
you've
already
got
for
you've,
already
put
out
ads
and
you've
already.
I
think
what
you're
mentioning
we
should
have
done
a
few
months
ago
and
we
didn't,
but
what
what
you
might
do,
usually
I'm
in
the
place
of
making
sure
that
you
all
get
our
input,
but
you've
done
a
great
job
and
you
you're,
obviously
a
you
know
well
experienced
in
this.
G
I
would
suggest
that
we
that
you
give
us
either
the
ad
or
the
criteria
that
you
think
and
then
just
get
our
feedback
on
it
and
in
case
we
want
to
tweak
things
and
if
there's
some
things
in
particular
that
we
want
to
look
at-
and
it
can't
say
just
clone
nicole
sure,
but
the
the
other
idea
about
going
to
the
cics,
I
think,
is
a
good
one.
We
need
to
be
fair
to
all
the
candidates
like
in
the
police
in
the
police
chief
search.
G
You
know,
one
of
the
important
candidates
was
not
able
to
attend
because
of
death
in
the
family.
I
think
we
need
to
be
sensitive
to
all
the
everybody's
schedules
and
and
figure
out
how
to
do
that,
and
and
besides
just
having
an
open
house.
Maybe
some
of
the
chc
chairs
would
want
to
talk
to
them.
F
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
it's
going
to
be,
I'm
not
suggesting
the
public
meet
and
greet
is
a
prescribed
agenda
or
with
a
podium
in
a
forum.
I
think
it's
a
meet
and
greet
it's
an
opportunity
for
the
candidates
to
talk
to
the
cac
members
and
the
the
chairs
and
and
the
cac
would
provide
you
feedback
based
on
that
interaction.
It's
up.
For
I
mean
this
is
a
very
public
position
right,
and
so
it
would
be
up
to
them
to
do
the
meet
and
greet.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
No
and
I'm
councilman
carlson
said
some
of
the
points
I
was
gonna
say,
which
is
I
I
mean
I
I
think
it's
open
and
obvious,
but
that
the
we
we
shouldn't
have
all
the
interviews
collectively
in
public.
Just
for
for
many
reasons,
I
would
strongly
discourage
that.
I
think
much
like
when
we
were
hiring
our
executive
director
at
heart,
which
is
we
get
to
know
the
individual
privately,
have
phone
calls
meetings
etc.
J
Then,
obviously
we
have
a
public
vote
where
members
can
share
their
rationale,
while
they're
making
a
specific
decision
if
they
so
wish-
and
I
think
the
public
engagement
part
I
think
is-
is
really
wonderful,
but
but
I
would
strongly
suggest
individual
private
meetings
as
opposed
to
collectively,
because
I
I
just
think
that'll
potentially
send
the
wrong
impression
on
many
counts.
There
are
certain
questions
that
want
to
be
asked
privately
and
just
for
many
other
reasons.
I
would
say
that,
but
but
I
agree
with
those
statements
and
that's
it.
Thank
you.
K
You,
madam
chair,
I'm
not
disagreeing
with
my
two
other
colleagues,
but
in
some
of
the
boards
that
I
sit
on,
it
is
done
all
publicly.
K
I
think
that's
a
wonderful
thing
that
way
it
gives
the
four
individuals
or
the
three
whatever
it
may
be,
the
opportunity
to
meet
and
greet
not
only
on
the
phone
but
to
me
here
in
person
so
that
we
can
understand
the
the
the
conversation
is
one
way,
but
the
act
of
just
seeing
a
person
is
a
different
way.
Mouth
may
tell
you
one
message,
but
the
body
language
tells
you
another.
So
those
are
the
things
that
are
discovered
when
you
have
an
open
board
meeting
with
three
or
four
candidates.
K
I
think
in
my
mind
the
best
way
is
to
do
it
here
right
here
in
the
public.
From
nine
o'clock,
if
it's
three
to
eleven
thirty,
if
it's
four
to
noon
two,
I
mean
for
ten
thirty
and
eleven
o'clock.
If
we
have
four-
and
we
can
start
the
cra
meeting
after
that
and
come
back
after
lunch,
but
I
think
that
the
the
intensity
and
the
opportunity
that
they're
going
to
have
for
them
and
for
the
cras
and
for
the
general
public
would
be
for
them
to
come
up.
K
L
These
candidates
have
been
vested
through
the
city
of
tampa.
It
would
be
a
shame
if
we
picked
somebody
that
we
felt
was
excellent
and
for
some
reason,
not
of
our
own,
that
the
city
might
not
be
able
to
hire
them.
They've
all
been
vested.
F
Well,
they
would
still
have
to
go
through
a
background
check
and
drug
test
clearance
for
clearance
for
higher
for
higher.
They
have
not
been
through
that
process
as
yet
they
have
met.
So
we
did
a
job
description
and
to
councilman
carlson's
point
about
the
minimum
qualifications.
I
did
take
the
job
description
to
the
cra
board
chair
and
gave
her
comparables
of
other
director
positions
and
what
we
put
in
the
qualifications.
The
four
candidates
meet
the
minimum
qualifications
of
the
job
description.
L
G
Yeah,
just
just
one
more
thing,
I
obviously
believe
in
transparency
and
and
doing
things
and
for
the
public.
I
think
that
candidates
also
like
having
private
conversations,
I'm
okay,
if
we
had
phone
conversations
with
them
or
in-person
conversation,
and
then
a
group
conversation
as
account
as
board
member
miranda
suggested,
but
one
one
kind
of
other
step.
G
You
know
I
was
a
volunteer
advisor
to
steve
burton
when
he
was
chair
of
the
aviation
authority
and
when
we
got
rid
of
the
old
director
and
brought
in
joe
lopano,
and
there
was
great
scrutiny
there
believe
it
or
not.
When
we
did
that
people
didn't
think
people
weren't
sure
that
joe
was
going
to
do
a
good
job.
The
last
mayor
fought
it.
We
we,
but
the
public
wanted
to
know
what
who
these
candidates
were,
and
so
what
we
did
at
least
with
steve,
was
we.
G
We
scheduled
his
interviews
at
times
when
the
public
knew
where
they
were,
and
so
another
kind
of
interim
step
is
that,
if
we're
going
to
meet
them
in
person,
we
could,
for
example,
meet
them
here,
and
you
could
just
schedule
publicly.
They
wouldn't
have
to
necessarily
be
publicly
noticed
because
we
wouldn't
be
breaking
sunshine,
but
we
could
just
post
them
publicly
if
the
public
or
media
want
to
come
in
for
the
interviews
they
could
come
in.
A
I
I
tend
to
agree
with
board
member
miranda,
I
think
any
everything
in
the
sunshine,
but
I
also
see
the
point
of
having
short
conversations,
maybe
prior
to
that.
I
do
also
believe
that
having
an
event
for
cac
members
is
absolutely
critical,
I
don't
think
I'd
feel
comfortable
voting
on
anyone
unless
they
had
the
chance
to
speak
with
the
board
members
who
spend
so
much
time
and
effort
and
energy
on
what
they
do.
A
I
also
think
it's
really
important
to
see
how
this
person
or
how
the
candidates
react
in
a
public
space,
because
they're
going
to
be
up
in
front
of
us
all
the
time
and
the
fact
that
they
they're
going
to
need
to
be
able
to
hold
their
own.
We
have
a
lot
of
questions.
We
have
a
lot
of
issues,
so
I
think
seeing
that,
for
me
personally,
is
something
that
that
is,
that
is
very
critical
board.
Member
goose.
B
Well,
the
public
engagement
portion.
You
know
the
school
district
had
a
good
system
to
where
the
candidates
met
with
the
board
in
a
public
setting,
and
then
they
had
a
social
hour
where
the
public
was
able
to
engage
with
the
candidates.
I
think
like
four
or
five
of
them,
not
only
say
you
see,
but
the
public
was
able
to
talk
and
meet
the
candidate
as
well.
So
I
think
that's
a
good
way
to
go.
F
Absolutely
we
can
we
can
do
that,
whatever
the
the
consensus
of
the
board.
Is
I'm
happy
to
oblige
you
to
do
that.
A
I
love
that
suggestion,
but
board
members
any.
C
G
F
You
just
if
you
just
can
agree
on
the
process
that
you
want
to
do
I'll,
go
back
and
work
on
the
schedule
and
present
you
a
schedule,
because
you
can't
pick
a
date
right
now
with
us
without
us
having
speaking
spoken
to
not
you
respectfully
your
aides
who
manage
your
calendars
and
the
candidates.
A
C
G
Miss
trap:
we
can
talk
offline
about
criteria
and
feedback
on
your
criteria,
but
I
just
want
to
say
in
front
of
my
colleagues
because
we
can't
talk
to
them
outside
of
here.
I
there's
some
unique
qualities
that
you
have
and
I
don't
know
exactly
how
to
describe
them.
G
You
have
the
experience
and
expertise,
obviously,
but
there's
something
about
you
that
and
words
all
throughout
they
may
or
may
not
be
the
right
words,
but
independent
thinking
apolitical,
confident,
and
I
think
all
of
those
are
necessary
for
someone
to
be
able
to
navigate
all
this.
I
have
confidence.
You
know
I'm
the
one
of
the
biggest
skeptics
up
here
and
I
have
confidence
that
no
individual
here
can
sway
you.
G
I
can't
sway
you
and
neither
can
any
other
individual,
and
so
you
take
the
consensus
of
it
and
nobody
outside
sways
you
the
mayor's
not
going
to
sway
you,
nobody
you're,
going
to
do
what
you
think
is
right
and
you're
going
to
get
the
job
done
and
you're
very
good
at
it,
and
so
I
think,
as
we're
as
we're
looking
for
this,
we
need
to
make
sure
it's
somebody
who's
just
focused
on
getting
the
job
done
for
the
community
and
and
getting
results.
G
A
B
I
think
we
pretty
much
laid
it
out
from
his
travis
absolutely.
F
All
right:
well,
I
think
okay,
so,
let's
start
with
so
let's
start
with
the
interviews,
I
think
what
I
heard.
Let
me
tell
you
what
I
think
I
heard
I
think
you
want
you
to
schedule
individual
meetings
with
the
finalists
so
that
you
can
speak
to
them,
not
in
the
public
setting.
Then
you
would
like
me
to
schedule.
F
Then
you
would
like
to
have
a
publicly
noticed
meeting
in
chambers
with
the
finalists.
You
would
also
like
to
have
a
public
public
meet
and
greet.
I
will
do
a
small
45
minutes
with
just
the
cra
board
first
and
then
time
the
time
after
that
would
be
for
all
the
cac
members.
Then
we
would
then
you
know
I'm
not
going
to
ask
you
to
make
a
decision
on
the
candidate
at
the
public
meeting.
Then
we
will
figure
out
the
date
and
when
you
will
make
a
decision
on
your
cra
director
is
that
it
perfect.
B
K
A
And
second,
by
board
member
goods:
let's
do
a
roll
call
vote
for
that.
E
F
A
F
A
I
I
Here
dr
collins
will
speak
to
just
the
the
motion
that
was
made
to
to
acquire
the
jackson
house
or
sufficient
space
to
allow
for
the
renovation
and
then
also
we
have
a
follow-up
presentation
that
will
come
before
you
relative
to
the
renovation
of
the
jackson
house,
the
cost
to
do
so,
and
then
the
overall
vision
for
the
jackson
house
could
I.
G
Just
the
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion,
a
lot
of
stories
about
the
jackson
house
and
a
lot
of
great
people
trying
to
trying
to
save
it.
I
first
got
involved
in
in
november
2013
I
met
with
willie
robinson
at
the
encouragement
of
a
of
a
times
reporter,
and
he
had
just
gotten
a
letter
from
the
last
administration.
G
That
said,
they
were
going
to
tear
it
down.
If
I
remember
correctly,
the
saturday
after
thanksgiving-
and
I
was-
I
was
pretty
shocked
by
that,
and
and
at
least
in
that
conversation
he
didn't
show
many
anger
or
anything
he
just
you
know
was
trying
to
save
the
jackson
house,
and
so
I
I
made
two
phone
calls.
One
was
to
a
group
that
that
raised
the
money
and
and
and
tried
to
save
it.
G
They
shored
it
up,
they
put
tarps
on
it
and
then
the
last
administration
walked
in
at
the
end
and
said
we're
gonna
tear
it
essentially
we're
gonna
tear
it
down
anyway,
and
so
that
deal
fell
apart.
The
other
the
other
thing
the
other
call
made
was
to
linda
salcena
and
linda
a
former
city
council
member,
came
into
this
body.
This
sorry,
the
city
council,
not
this
buddy
city
council
and
I
think
miss
miranda-
may
be
the
only
council.
Councilman
was
here.
G
I
don't
know
if
guido
was
here
or
not,
but
but
city
council
voted
to
stay.
The
execution
of
the
of
the
of
the
jackson
house-
and
so
I
just
want
to
put
for
the
public
sake
and
everybody
else-
city
council,
not
all
of
us
individually,
but
city
council
saved
the
jackson
house.
You
know
at
the
request
of
mr
robinson
and
others
back
in
2013.,
if
not
for
that,
it
would
have
been
torn
down
just
just
after
thanksgiving
when
nobody
was
paying
attention,
but
since
then
it
it
has.
G
It
has
sat
and
many
of
us
care
about
the
jacksonville
jackson
house.
I
care
about
it.
So
much
that
I
I
have
a
painting
of
it
on
my
wall
in
my
house
by
dean
mitchell
and
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
building,
I
think
is
you
know
originally
owned
by
willie's
family.
G
I
think
he
has
his
family,
as
his
daughter
may
be
here
today,
but
it's
it's
really
a
community
treasure
that
tells
not
only
the
story
of
the
people
who
stayed
there,
but
but
also
the
story
of
segregation
and
and
the
location
of
it.
I
think,
is
really
important.
I
absolutely
would
never
be
in
favor
of
moving
it.
H
G
It's
so
important
to
tell
the
story
where
it
is.
I
like,
I
would
like
I've
said
to
many
people.
I
would
like
to
personally
buy
the
piano
to
go
in
the
lobby
when
it's
renovated,
but
many
of
us
have
talked,
I
think
all
of
us
have
been
united
in
trying
to
save
it.
G
We've
we've
talked
about
it
in
city
council
for
three
and
a
half
years
we've
and,
as
I
said
that
prior
city
council
saved
it
from
the
last
administration
and-
and
I
think
in
cra,
we've
tried
to
save
it
a
year
or
so
ago
the
mayor
had
a
press
conference
with
jeff,
vinick
and,
and
I
think
christina
was
in
the
audience
and
announced
the
city
would
put
in
a
million
dollars.
That
actually
was
the
cra
money,
not
the
city,
money
and,
and
so
it
shows
that
this
this
cra
is
committed.
G
We
put
our
money
where
their
mouth
is,
and
we've
offered
at
least
half
the
money.
That's
that's
being
offered
to
to
try
to
renovate
it,
and
we've
run
into
many
obstacles
with
that,
and
the
other
thing
I'll
say
is
that
the
cra
there's
anybody
watch
the
budget
meeting.
The
day
knows:
there's
not
even
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
extra
in
the
city
budget,
but
the
cras
cra
districts
have
money,
and
I
think
there's
these
them.
There's
the
the
interest,
the
passion
and
and
the
resources
with
this
cra
board.
G
Cra
board
is
the
same
as
city
council,
but
it's
a
totally
separate
entity
that
stands
alone
from
the
city
and
we
have
the
resources
to
be
able
to
to
help
the
jackson
house
if
we
can
work
through
one
of
these
issues
and
and
what
what
I'd
like
to
see
at
the
end
of
this
is
to
figure
out.
G
Is
there
some
way
we
can
partner
with
the
foundation
or
that
the
foundation
can
help
us
partner
with
usf
and
or
the
history
center,
to
figure
out
how
to
solve
the
immediate
problems,
but,
most
importantly,
that
we
can
save
this
important
structure,
renovate
it
and
activate
it
again.
But
if
it
happens
to
fall
down
the
the
third
motion
is,
is
what
would
it
take
to
rebuild
it?
Because
everybody
needs
to
know
that
that
if
it
falls
down
that
we
intend
to
rebuild
it
in
place
and
the
an
example
of
that
is
manhattan.
G
Casino
and
st
pete,
that
is,
a
reconstruction,
but
still
an
important
historical
building
at
st
pete.
M
You
very
much
what
bothers
me
the
most
is.
I
could
take
you
through
ybor
city,
and
maybe
I
don't
know
everything,
but
I
love
history
and
I've
studied
a
lot
of
tampa
history,
and
I
can
give
you
a
tour
and
tell
you
this
is
this
this
and
that
I
can
take
you
through
west
tampa.
I
can
thank
you.
I
can
take
you
through
south
tampa.
H
M
Through
the
cemeteries,
through
so
many
things,
but
I
can't
take
you
down
central
avenue
because
everything
was
demolished
for
the
most
part,
ybor
city
is
protected
as
a
national,
historic
landmark.
District
west
tampa
has
its
historic
district
with
so
many
cigar
factories
and
other
contributing
structures,
but
through
the
black
community
to
the
black
business
district.
That
was
thriving
until
let's
say
1967,
because
we
had
riots,
and
I
think
that
was
the
catalyst
that
caused
from
the
words
of
moses
white.
M
But
after
that
I
can
show
you
a
church.
I
can
show
you
the
longshoreman's
building.
I
can
show
you
the
kid
mason
center
and
I
can
show
you
what
is
the
jackson
house,
but
beyond
that.
If
I
didn't
tell
you,
if
I
didn't,
you
know,
driving
through
there
coming
off
the
interstate
people,
don't
know
what
that
used
to
be.
M
You
know
it
was
going
to
be
demolished
after
thanksgiving
or
now
the
adjacent
property
owners
don't
want
to
allow
the
10-foot
area
around
for
the
restoration
you
have
people
like
jeff
vinnick
people
like
the
cra
and
other
individuals
that
have
put
money
together
in
studying
and
trying
to
preserve
this
house.
M
You
know,
look
how
far
it's
neglected.
I've
been
here
since
2015
and
I
have
photos
from
2014.
one
night.
I
drove
downtown
parked
on
franklin
street
and
my
friend
and
I
walked
through
downtown
at
night,
and
we
walked
to
the
jackson
house
to
take
pictures
the
neglect,
because
nothing
has
been
done
since
because
of
all
these
roadblocks
to
what
it
looked
like,
then,
to
now
I
mean
it's
in
even
worse
condition.
M
But
you
know
any
big
storm
can
come
in
and
knock
that
that
building
down
again,
not
because
people
didn't
want
to
do
anything
about
it,
but
because
people
stood
in
the
way
certain
individuals
sitting
away
as
they
are
now
and
it's
I
just
don't
understand,
I
understand
you
know
money
and
profit
and
to
some
people
it
might
be
an
eyesore
and
they
want
it
out
of
the
way.
But
we
have
lost
so
much
history
to
the
wrecking
ball.
We
have
lost
so
much
history
to
the
interstate
we
have
so
much.
M
We
have
lost
so
much
history
to
greet
and
profit
and
where
people
say
it's
old,
get
it
out
of
the
way
you
know,
and
it's
that
one
of
the
last
contributing
structures
to
that
area.
I
can't
show
you
central
avenue,
except
for
a
few
photographs
and
there's
a
film
that
shows
some
scenes
in
central
avenue
from
the
early
1960s,
but
we
have
to
do
everything
we
can
in
order
to
preserve
this
house
yeah
it
falls
down
and
you
can
build
a
replica.
It's
not
the
same
thing.
M
It's
like
having
a
a
replica
of
a
classic
car.
That's
an
original
is
worth
a
million
dollars.
You
build
a
replica,
it's
not
the
same
thing,
it's
still
a
replica.
You
know
if
those
walls
could
talk
the
stories
that
they
would
tell
you
know.
I
know.
Councilman
carlson
is
extremely
passionate
about
this.
M
He's
already
said
everything
about
it,
but
I'm
glad
that
we
have
the
stakeholders
here
in
the
room
and
we
can
hear
what
they
have
to
say
what
everybody
else
has
to
say,
but
mostly
I'm
grateful
to
people
like
mr
vinnick
and
others
that
have
stepped
up
and
provided
the
funding
to
get
this
done
and
shored
up
and
possibly
restored,
and
shame
on
the
individuals
that
keep
standing
in
the
way.
I
don't
know
what
the
the
hatred
is
towards
this
house.
M
J
Chair
and-
and
I
you
know
for
me-
the
ultimate
idea
is
to
use
city
dollars
cra
dollars,
whatever
it
may
be,
to
preserve
this,
if
that
means
buying
the
easement
doing
whatever
it,
what
whatever
we
have
to
do
in
a
legal
sense.
Obviously
we
should
look
at
doing.
I
read
dr
collins
letter
from
I
think
it
was
sent
yesterday
and
the
feeling
that
I
get
from
that
correspondences
is
that
they
want
to
continue
to
have
ownership
of
of
the
jackson
house
in
the
present
hands,
where
it's
at
I'm
supportive
of
that.
J
But
we
need
to
do
everything
and
anything
that
we
can
to
preserve
this
house
100
and
when
you
look
at
the
overall
vision
for
that
area
in
particular,
I
know
councilman
carlson's
been
working
a
lot
on
union
station.
Imagine
god
willing,
when
this
house
is
restored,
improvements
at
union
station,
just
the
the
radical
transformation
that
we're
going
to
have
on
that
area
and
built
on
historical
preservation,
something
that
in
the
city
of
tampa,
we
really
don't
do
a
good
job
at,
but
a
lot
of
cities
a
lot
of
cities
in
the
united
states.
J
J
Racial
lynching
marker
that
dealt
with
in
part,
the
the
the
lynching
of
robert
johnson
in
1934
people,
don't
know
that
he
was
transferred
from
city
police
to
a
person
who
claimed
to
be
with
with
a
county,
a
police
constable
outside
of
city
hall
everywhere
that
you
go
something
historical
happened
right
and
we
don't
do
a
very
good
job
of
noting
that
I
mean
and
and
just
names
in
tampa
that
we
don't
talk
about
as
much
as
we
should
robert
saunders
not
long
ago.
J
But
this
house
stands
for
a
lot
of
things
that
stands
for
the
the
jim
crow,
which
stands
for
segregation,
segregation
that
was
enforced
through
violence
through
brutality
through
torture
and
through
lynching,
and
to
me
that's
what
this
house
stands
for.
So
I
support
doing
whatever
it
takes
to
support
this
house,
whether
it's
taking
on
the
easement,
whatever
legal
options
we
have
from
a
monetary
perspective,
let's
get
it
done.
J
I
support,
as,
as
others
have
said,
the
great
work
that
mr
vinick
and
others
have
done
in
the
private
sector,
truly
philanthropic
work
that
that
really
has
from
the
private
sector
taken
the
lead.
The
city
has
to
continue
to
match
it,
but
know
the
the
moral
vision
behind
that
we
talk.
We've
talked
in
city
council.
I
know
today
where
we're
going
to
be
hearing
issues
on
martin
masale
in
in
ebor
city.
I've
brought
up
before
the
dr
walter
smith
house.
J
We
we
need
to
do
everything
that
we
can
to
preserve
our
history,
but
especially
for
groups
that
have
been
marginalized,
brutalized
and
oppressed,
because
there's
a
reason
why
people
want
to
ignore
history,
there's
a
reason
why
people
won't
overlook
history
is
because
we
don't
like
to
be
reminded
of
the
ugly
things
in
history.
We
always
like
to
remind
of
the
beautiful
things
in
history
right,
but
we
have
to
preserve
this
to
remind
ourselves
of
that
painful
history.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
A
Okay,
I'm
sorry
board
member
goods.
B
B
If
you
can't
get
the
property,
they
won't
budge
on
the
easement.
What
do
we
do
now?
Do
we
just
go
ahead
and
erect
it?
The
way
we
can
do
we
tear
it
down
and
look
at
another
place
on
central
avenue
or
other
places,
so
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
going
to
spend
money.
We
spend
good
money
to
get
the
job
done
and
get
it
done
right.
B
So
everyone's
going
to
be
happy
with
it,
but
some
people
still
going
gonna
be
happy,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
plan
of
action
in
case
that
thing
falls
down
tomorrow,
the
next
day
and
believe
I
just
thank
god.
They
still
stand,
there's
a
reason
why
it's
still
standing
it's
the
reason
why
I'm
still
standing.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
plan
to
make
sure
we
can
get
it
done.
That's
all!
B
K
I
Well,
we
we
just
reengaged
on
this
and
so
we'd
like
to
allow
for
the
jackson
house
to
present
today
before
you
and
then
what
we
can
do
is
we
can.
We
can
continue
those
discussions
outside
of
this
session
so
that
we
don't
have
to
do
so
publicly
relative
to
any
negotiations
or
acquisitions
for
the
adjacent
property.
But
you
know
I
think,
you'll
hear
a
lot
from
from
dr
collins
and
then
from
the
the
respective
presenters
on
why
it's
important
to
preserve
this.
I
This
building
in
place
as
well,
and
it
aligns
with
much
of
what's
been
said
before
you
today-
what
you
all
have
said
already,
and
so,
if
you
just
allow
that
presentation
and
then
we
can
take
any
further
action
there.
I
appreciate
that
very
much
very
good.
So
let
me
yield
the
floor.
N
N
I
acquired
this
from
none
other
than
mr
willie
robinson.
He
engaged
me
and
made
me
sit
on
the
porch
with
him
for
days
to
talk.
He
stayed
in
the
naacp
office
with
me
when
I
was
the
president
to
talk
and
his
whole
conversation
was
to.
Let
me
know
how
hard
it
had
been
for
both
his
mother
and
subsequently
him.
In
trying
to
save
this
house.
I
got
a
call
from
kathy
castro's
office
when
I
was
preparing
to
leave
the
naacp
and
the
call
was
whatever
you
do.
Don't
let
that
and
I
go.
N
N
We
agreed
to
take
on
this
project
and
I
said
to
kathy
castle's
office:
we'll
do
this
for
black
history
month,
because
that's
when
it
was
approached
we'll
see
what
we
can
do.
It's
been
difficult
and
willie
was
on
our
board
from
omega
said
no
as
a
board
member.
She
said,
let's
not
take
it
on
for
a
month.
Let's
give
it
about
a
year,
give
ourselves
more
time
and
let's
see
what
we
can
do.
Thank
you
natasha
for
pursuing
it.
N
When
I
got
ready
to
leave
the
naacp,
they
said
nobody's
going
to
take
the
commitment
that
you've
taken
over
the
last
year
to
do
the
things
that
you
have
done.
So
they
asked
me
to
take
this
on
as
president
of
the
branch
at
that
time.
You'll
be
the
chair
of
the
jackson
house
and
wherever
you
go,
it
goes
with
you
and
I'm
glad
that
happened
because
had
not
that
happened.
N
A
It
is
oh.
N
A
N
N
I
have
both
here
our
secretary,
mrs
matthews,
and
we
also
and
she's
an
awesome
secretary,
and
I
also
have
one
of
the
board
members
that
we
asked
to
come
on
board
with
us
because
he
was
the
one
who
did
the
first
stabilization
and
that's
a
contractor
and
that's
mr
william
ronnie
williams,
and
we
actually
we
meet.
We
go
over
things
and
before
I
say
anything,
we
have
a
letter.
I
want
to
read
this
statement
in
the
letter,
so
it's
very
clear.
N
You
have
the
letter,
I'm
not
going
to
read
the
whole
letter
and
then
to
the
public
if
they
want
it
we'll
be
happy
to
share
it
with
them.
But
I
want
to
read
this
paragraph
explicitly
clear.
First,
under
no
circumstances
whether
jackson
house
foundation
consider
any
offer
to
sell
its
land
or
relocate
the
jackson
house.
The
jackson
house
did
more
than
hosts
the
luminaries
of
the
day.
N
It
is
history
itself,
the
land
and
the
building
upon.
It
is
only
physical
reminders
that
the
area
that
was
once
called
the
harlem
of
the
south
and
a
functional
part
of
tampa's
history-
and
I
call
it
downtown
history.
So
if
you
sever
the
building
from
the
land
or
the
land
from
its
ownership,
it's
to
sever.
The
jackson
house
ties
to
history
and
a
significant
important
legacy.
N
So
I
thank
you
guys
sincerely
for
indicating
that
and
the
foundation
the
problem
that
we
have
incurred
has
been
the
easement.
Lately
we
with
benny
the
benny
foundation,
I
need
to
tell
you:
the
state
of
florida
gave
us
a
million
dollars
on
the
grant
we
had.
The
state
of
florida
gave
the
city
half
a
million
dollars.
N
We
have
the
venice
mill,
we
have
funds,
we
have
money,
we
just
have
someone
who
will
not
give
us
a
minimum
of
20
the
easement
on
both
sides
of
the
house,
the
east
and
the
west,
so
that
we
will
be
able
to
do
what
we
need
to
do,
but
clearly
I
want
to
put
it
at
rest.
We
have
decided,
we
need
the
easement
bad.
It
would
afford
us
so
much
that
we
need
to
do
to
complete
this
building.
We
have
talked
with,
and
I've
even
put
their
name
here.
So
I
will
not
forget.
N
We've
been
referred
to
and
I
have
begun
conversation
with
the
florida
trust,
historical
preservation,
who
can
sometimes
look
at
codes
and
make
different
things
happen,
but
the
jackson
house
will
be
built.
It
will
be
built
at
its
current
location
and
you've
heard
me
say
this
before
when
we
didn't
have
money,
but
we
didn't
have
opposition.
N
N
That's
the
2022
house,
that's
the
house,
that's
being
held
up
for
a
minimum
of
20
feet,
eastman
on
the
east
and
the
west.
It
would
accomplish
so
much
and
would
only
have
to
be
sacrificed
a
few
parking
spaces.
I
would
say
of
what
10
or
20
parking
space
would
do
for
many
years
of
history
and
improving.
What
we
have
here
in
our
city
is
is
just
significant.
N
N
N
This
is
a
picture
of
someone
and
everybody
used
to
say
this
was
moses
and
sarah
jackson.
No,
it
was
not.
It
was
someone
else
who
stayed
in
that
house
that
we
can't
identify
that
took
a
picture
on
that
porch
and
we
were
able
to
get
to
it.
But
mrs
cyril
jackson
and
I
think
willie
robinson,
is
what
keeping
the
house
from
falling
today.
The
amtrak
train
that
you'll
see
back
in
the
background
and
what
you,
what
we're
trying
to
say
is.
We
have
a
historical
designation
in
our
city
and
our
county
and
our
state.
N
We
even
have
it
in
washington
dc
at
the
congressional
level.
We
want
to
maintain
that
so
the
the
property
that
we
need
will
assist
us
in
building
the
house
so
that
we
can
maintain
the
historical
designations.
We
may
be
able
to
build
it
and
we
will
it's
a
rebuild.
It
will
not
be
torn
down
and
rebuilt,
but
if
some
pieces
fall
down
they're
falling
now,
we've
got
to
get
it
back,
but
the
process
that
you'll
hear
coming
from
the
experts.
N
N
N
Of
course,
we
wait
for
you
guys
to
do
something
because
amtrak
train
brought
in
native
americans,
military
individuals,
performers
and
other
individuals
who
have
the
opportunity
to
stay
there
to
be
have
their
clothes
laundry
to
have
taxi
service
over
the
central
avenue
to
have
willy
father
do
their
hair,
isn't
that
cane
cold
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
this
is
something
that
we
want
to
be
able
to.
We
can
make
sure
we
maintain
here:
we've
had
so
many
supporters,
city,
council,
mayors,
believe
it
or
not.
Some
people
say
they
didn't,
but
they
did.
N
We
have
had
mr
bennett
who,
before
he
gave
us
a
major
shot
in
the
arm,
gave
us
the
first
set
of
money
that
our
contractor
here
used.
Mr
williams,
in
order
to
do
the
first
stabilization
university
of
south
florida,
miss
johnny
sanders.
I
just
needed
him.
Mr
loris,
william
two
people
in
the
community
johnny
is
born
in
the
house
raised
in
the
house,
and
she
was
the
first
person
who
gave
us
funds
that
we
needed
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
a
young
lady
that
was
blind
who
said
she
walked
past.
N
That
house
every
day
came
and
said
here
gave
me
a
hundred
dollar
check.
That
was
the
first
donation
I
received.
So
what
we're
asking
you
to
do
is
to
save
the
jackson
house.
We
want
to
inspire
the
future
and
I
will
ask
you
to
listen
intuitively
to
the
tampa
bay
history
center,
the
interaction
that
we
have
with
them
and
what
we're
doing
with
them,
and
I
would
ask
you
to
listen
as
well
to
our
presentation
from
ron
ford,
the
consultant.
We
will
be
working
consistently
with
them.
N
The
house
will
be
rebuilt
and
I
can
almost
guarantee
that
anything
that
you
can
do
to
help
us
with
the
easement,
the
board,
the
community,
that's
interested
and
all
the
people
who
send
us
emails
and
say:
don't
let
that
house
fall.
I'm
tired
of
looking
at
that
house
like
that.
What
can
we
do,
and
I
would
say
ms
matthews
will
tell
you
she's
sending
letters
out
almost
every
day
from
people
in
the
community
who's
saying?
How
can
I
volunteer?
N
How
can
I
help
we
get
money
on
our
little
paypal
where
people
say
how
much
would
this
do
to
help?
So
we
need
the
minimum
and
I
keep
saying
it
because
that's
the
agreement,
a
minimum
of
20.,
the
easement
on
both
sides
of
the
house,
so
that
we
can
bill
it
continue
to
get
grant
funds.
So
it
will
never
get
in
this
condition
again
and
to
be
able
to
provide
that
that
is
missing
in
tampa
that
we
can
never
get
back.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
we
get
it
now.
M
C
Imminent
domain
under
florida
law,
okay,
so
no
this
agency
cannot
institute
them
and
it
may
not
come
about.
I
know
the
city
potentially,
but
it
you'd
have
to
serve
a
public
purpose
and
and
that
and
so
that
I
you
know,
we
would
have
to
talk
to
our
outside
condemnation
or
eminent
domain
council,
historic
preservation.
C
There
have
been
occasionally
some
actions
taken
for
historic
preservation
purposes,
it's
usually
for
the
structure
itself,
not
for
easements
per
se,
but
this
is
something
we
would
have
to.
We
have
to
engage
outside
council
and
consult
with
the
viability
of
that
that
take
the
city
taking
that
action
would.
M
C
G
Dr
collins,
thank
you
for
coming
up
here
and
thank
you
for
all
of
you.
You
and
your
board
members
have
been
doing
to
save
the
jackson
house
to
keep
the
stories
alive,
so
we
made
we
made
three
motions
for
today
and
I
just
wanted
to
just
for
the
record.
Get
your
clarification.
Remember
that
we're
we're
sitting
we're
city,
council
members,
but
today
we're
sitting
as
a
community
redevelopment
authority
board,
which
is
a
separate
entity
and,
as
as
mr
master
just
said,
we
have
different
authorities.
G
But
the
first
motion
was
to
for
the
cra
that
cra
has
money
that
some
of
it's
discretionary
and
even
though
the
city
has
a
bigger
budget,
we
we
maybe
have
more
discretionary
budget
than
the
city
does,
which
we
we've
already
made
a
commitment.
But
if
so
the
first
motion
was
that
the
cra
would
look
to
offer
to
buy
the
20
foot
or
whatever
easement
on
the
side.
So
you're
from
your
board's
perspective,
you're.
G
Okay,
if
the
cra
you,
you
would
be
okay,
encourage
the
cra
to
to
to
try
to
buy
that
so
that
we
could
acquire
that.
You
know
on
behalf
of
the
jackson
house,.
G
And
then
the
third
one
was
that
that
was
to
start
the
process
of
looking
to
rebuild
if
it
was
if
it
fell
down,
and
at
least
my
goal
in
doing
that
is
to
demonstrate
to
the
public
that
it's
going
to
be
in
the
same
place,
whether
it's
this
building
or
a
new
building.
So
is
your
board?
G
Okay,
if,
if
the
cra
is
supportive
with
monetary
money
or
other
resources,
to
support
your
efforts
and
planning
in
case
it
falls
down
so
that
we
can
demonstrate
to
the
public
that
it's
going
to
be
there
one
way
or
another.
N
I
think
we
are
more
than
okay
with
that.
We
really
support
that
and
I
think
in
the
future
presentations
a
couple
of
presentations
about
to
be
made.
Now
you
may
even
see
how
we're
looking
in
that
vein
as
well,
I
mean
a
sincere
stabilized
building
has
been
stabilized
twice,
so
we
won't
see
a
complete
collapse
of
the
building,
but
we
see
what
the
house
looked
like
now,
what
weather
has
done
to
it?
What
time
has
done
to
it?
N
G
And
my
personal,
maybe
you've
heard
me
say
before
my
personal
interest,
in
keeping
it
where
it
is.
Is
that
I,
besides
all
the
other
great
stories,
it
tells
the
story
of
segregation,
because
it's
across
from
the
train
station
and
when
you,
when
I
take
my
kids,
which
they
my
kids
all
know
the
whole
story
about
the
jackson
house
and
they
tell
others.
But
when,
when
I
take
them
there,
I
say:
do
you
realize
that
that
people
of
a
certain
color
couldn't
stay
in
regular
hote
in
white
hotels
they
had
to?
G
They
had
to
stay
here
or
one
place
in
west
tampa,
and
I
think
that's.
That
story
is
important
to
tell
and-
and
I
hope,
as
I
said
one
day
to
please
remember
me-
I
want
to
personally
sponsor
the
piano,
because
I
want
to
hear
music
play
there
again.
G
The
third,
the
third
one
that
we
made,
though,
was
to
buy
the
building
and
and
and
if
you
just
hear
me
out
for
a
second-
it's
not
to
absolutely
not
to
move
it,
and
I
wouldn't
be
in
favor
of
any
funding
that
would
enable
anybody
to
move
it.
G
But
I
don't
want
to
mention
other
examples,
but
there
is
another
case
with
another
kind
of
art
history
organization
right
now,
where
the
city
had
to
buy
the
land
from
the
foundation,
so
that
the
city
could
file
an
imminent
domain,
and
so,
if
it
it
it
may
be
possible.
G
Mr
maniscalco
was
talking
about
eminent
domain.
This
board
can't
file
a
minute
domain,
but
the
city
can,
but
it
it
in
the
in
the.
I
would
ask
you
just
to
stay
close
to
the
lawyers
of
the
city
in
the
case
that
that
we
can't
purchase
the
land
and
we
make
a
good
faith
effort
to
purchase
land
and
nobody
will
sell
it.
G
Then
there
would
be
a
case
of
imminent
domain,
but
if
the
if
the
situation
arose,
that
the
only
way
to
file
imminent
domain
is
for
the
city
or
the
cra
to
own
it,
then,
with
the
support
of
the
foundation,
I
would.
G
I
would
try
to
get
the
funding
from
this
board
to
to
put
it
to
have
the
city
control
it
just
for
the
purposes
of
imminent
domain
and
as
as
mr
massey
said,
it
sounds
like
we
couldn't
transfer
it
back
for
10
years,
but
I
would
just
encourage
you
to
talk
to
your
board's
lawyers
about
it
in
the
case
that
that
happened.
G
What
covenants
would
you
want
to
put
in,
and
maybe
talk
to,
the
legal
department
of
the
cra
and
the
city
to
figure
out
what
covenants
are
possible
to
try
to
protect
the
interests
of
the
foundation,
but
but
we
want
to
think
things
to
move
forward
more
quickly.
The
other
thing
I
would
tell
you
is
that
there's
an
election
in
march
and
although
the
mayor
has
said
that
she's
running
again,
there
are
rumors
of
other
people
running
and
at
least
one
of
them
has
tried
to
tear
down
the
jackson
house
before
and
the
there.
G
I
think
everybody
on
city
council
is
running
for
reelection,
but
there's
no
guarantee
that
we'll
all
be
sitting
here,
and
so
I
feel
some
urgency
to
get
some
things
done
before
march
and
that
might
not
be
a
timeline
that
you
are
looking
at,
but
I
would
just
encourage
your
board
to
think
about
that,
because
you
have,
I
think,
probably
unanimous,
support
on
this
board
and
you've
already
seen
the
mayor's
support
and
you've
seen
support
in
the
community.
I
would
encourage
us
to
move
as
quickly
as
possible
to
get
things
done
before
the
march
election.
N
Thank
you
so
much,
and
I
would
like
to
say
that
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we're
looking
also
at
the
florida
trust
for
historic
sites,
because
they
have
some
concern
and
the
grant
that
we
have
from
the
state
of
florida.
That's
one
of
the
things
that
they
had
told
us
to
look
at
as
well.
So
my
board
member
just
sent
me
a
note
and
said
eminent
domain
this
week
or
last
week,
and
we
were
asking
questions
so
we
are
wide
open
to
listen.
N
We
have
attorneys,
that's
been
kind
to
us
as
pro
bono
as
well
as
we
have
an
attorney
on
our
board
now
to
help
us
ask
those
questions.
We
want
to
make
sure
the
jackson
house
is
rebuilt,
that
it
stay
in
that
posture
of
land,
where
it
is
with
historical
purposes,
and
we
will
listen
to
anything.
But
clearly
we
have
taken
a
real
hard
position
and
that's
why
that
second
or
third
paragraph
is
in
the
letter.
N
But
that
does
not
mean
that
we
will
push
move
and
maneuver
make
assessments
and
make
adjustments
modification
to
make
sure
that
we
can
make
sure
we
maintain
the
jacksons.
We
just
have
a
real,
strong
position
because
of
history
in
this
city,
where
so
many
people
have
offered
to
assist
willie
and
his
mother,
and
it
just
didn't
go
that
way
and
every
time
I
think
of
anything
different.
I
can
hear
willie
on
my
shoulder
telling
me
no.
No,
no,
no
don't
do
that.
So
that's
why
we're
so
strong
on
it.
N
Thank
you
so
much-
and
I
didn't
say
this,
but
I
need
to
we've-
received
large
sums
of
money
with
a
contingency
based
on
the
house
being
rebuilt
to
continue
getting
money,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
city.
I
want
to
thank
the
state.
I
want
to
thank
the
county.
N
We
have
gotten
excessive
money,
mr
bennett
and
I'm
talking
a
half
a
million
up,
so
people
have
made
the
commitment
that
you
guys
just
made
when
you
indicated
you
wanted
to
see
the
house
back
and
we
have
individuals
in
this
community.
I
don't
know
what
I
would
have
done
without
christine
over
here.
She's
been
a
jewel
and
tyler
they
just
I
mean
we
almost
like
in
the
family.
Now,
that's
how
often
we're
together
and
we're
meeting,
and
I
thank
them
so
much
for
everything
that
they
have
done,
but
we're
serious.
N
N
Yes,
we
have
been
negotiating
and
about
a
month
or
so
ago
the
negotiation
fell
in
when
we
realized
that
all
the
work
that
had
gone
into
what
we
call
good
faith
was
not
good
faith,
so
it
has
held
us
up
and
we
see
what
it's
done
to
the
house
we're
moving
forward.
We
thank
you
for
your
support.
We
solicit
your
support
and
we
ask
you
to
support
us
with
anything.
N
N
H
Good
morning
board
members,
thank
you
for
your
interest
in
this
important
project
and
for
your
support
of
history
in
general,
I'm
cj
roberts,
I'm
the
president
and
ceo
of
the
tampa
bay
history
center
joining
me
is
ron
ford
from
otb
consulting
ron
is
serving
as
our
project
manager
for
this
restoration
effort.
The
history
center
got
involved
a
couple
of
years
ago
to
restore
the
jackson
house
and
we're
providing
mostly
in-kind
support.
H
Most
of
our
staff
members
are
involved
in
one
way
or
another,
whether
it's
curatorial
education,
team
members
facilities,
folks
we're
also
managing
the
various
public
grant
funds,
because
we
have
the
infrastructure
to
do
that.
Quite
a
bit
of
experience,
doing
that
and
dr
dr
collins
touched
on
some
of
this
already,
but
let
me
take
a
moment
and
I'll
update
you
on
where
the
project
stands
at
this
point,
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
ron
who
will
tell
you
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
what
we
need.
So
is
there
a
powerpoint
here
we
go.
H
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
project
partners,
great
partners
involved.
I
think
the
key
people
that
need
to
be
involved
are
involved.
The
structure
has
been
stabilized
with
the
internal
bracing.
We
talked
about
that
already.
A
security
fence
has
been
installed
around
the
house's
perimeter.
The
building
and
the
contents
have
been
digitally
documented
by
usf's
digital
humanities
and
heritage
program.
They
do
a
great
job.
H
The
work
that
they've
done
is
going
to
be
critical
for
the
reconstruction,
as
well
as
the
historical
record
and
key
building
elements
as
well
as
some
of
the
contents
have
been
removed.
They're
stored
off-site
they've
been
treated
and
and
ready
to
reinstall
at
the
appropriate
time.
But,
as
we've
all
pointed
out,
the
building
is
very
vulnerable
and
time
is
certainly
not
on
our
side.
H
H
The
vision,
the
vision
for
the
jackson
house
is
to
restore
it
as
an
historic
house,
as
well
as
an
african-american
history
museum
telling
those
stories
of
the
house
and,
as
councilman
maniscalco
pointed
out
the
neighborhood.
This
is
one
of
the
last
vestiges
of
what
was
once
a
very
vibrant,
african-american,
neighborhood
and
there's
nothing
left
and
so
telling
that
story
is
key.
H
I
think
it
lends
itself
very
well
to
telling
these
stories
and
you
can
see
some
of
the
renderings
that
have
been
done
there.
So
where
are
we
with
regard
to
cost
estimates?
We
think
it's
going
to
cost
just
over
4
million
dollars
to
do
this
project.
We
have
3
million
in
funding
commitments,
a
million
from
the
venic
foundation,
a
million
and
a
half
from
the
state
500
000
from
his
from
hillsborough
county,
and
I
know
the
city
is
prepared
to
make
a
commitment.
D
Thank
you
cj
good
morning,
there's
only
a
few
slides
we're
almost
there,
so
I
want
to
lay
out
some
of
the
technical
aspects
of
the
project,
the
challenge
where
there's
been
discussion
about
easement
requirements,
the
house
structure
currently
sits
approximately
about
a
foot
inside
the
property
line
on
the
east
property
and
about
three
feet
on
the
west
side.
D
The
construction
of
the
house
is
such
that
the
the
challenge
with
this
site
and
the
adjacent
sites
it's
a
zero
lot
line,
so
there
are
no
setbacks,
so
the
construction
type
currently
and
and
what
would
be
constructed
to
maintain
the
historical
context,
will
not
meet
fire
separation
requirements
as
well
as
the
the
window.
D
We've
looked
at
it
and
done
some
preliminary
evaluation
and
there's
there's
been
some
easement
dimensions
thrown
out
here
already
this
morning,
a
few
different
ones.
What
where
we've
landed
is
on
the
east
side,
we've
we've
identified
a
14
foot
easement
and
again.
This
is
based
on
the
fire
rating
separation
requirements
not
only
for
the
material,
the
material
types,
but
also
related
to
again
the
openings
in
the
existing
structure,
maintaining
vision
through
those
openings
on
the
west
side.
D
What
we've
done
and
again
this
is
this
is
our
this
is
the
ideal
situation
for
the
restoration.
D
D
It
will
totally
destroy
the
historical
context
of
the
of
the
building
and
then
a
drive
lane
that
would
connect
a
one-way
drive
lane
that
would
connect
from
the
from
zach
street
back
to
the
existing
alley
and
then
some
angled
parking
to
allow
for
some
for
some
on-site
parking
minimal,
but
at
least
some
some
accommodation
for
that,
and
and
that
that's
that's
the
the
broad
view
of
of
the
technical
aspects
and
the
challenges
with
the
easement
the
requirements
for
these
men.
Here's
a
couple
of
images
that
you
may
have
seen
these
already.
D
G
Cj,
thank
you
all
for
stepping
up
and
been
working
on
this.
I
think
it's
important
to
have
all
the
expertise
of
the
history
center
and
I
know
rodney.
You
know,
as
one
of
your
key
historians
has
been
gathering
all
the
data
that
he
can
find
about
this,
and
hopefully
anybody
watching.
I
think
one
of
the
things
they're
missing
is
is
like
a
registry
book
or
something
that
has
all
the
names
in
it.
So
if
anybody
watching
has
that,
please
call
cj
or
rodney
and
give
it
to
them,
we
need.
G
G
Just
so
everybody
knows
back
in
2013
when
I
first
started
working
on
this,
the
budget
was
only
1.4,
and
so
it's
it
because
it's
deteriorated
more.
We've
lost
more
of
the
natural
original
structure
and
materials,
but
we've
also
now
it's
going
to
cost
a
million
dollars
because
it
was
stopped
almost
10
years
ago.
G
The
second
thing
is
that,
to
my
knowledge,
the
city
hasn't
offered
any
money,
but
the
cra
has
and
because
it's
a
separate
entity-
and
you
may
have
heard
me
say
earlier-
that
the
people
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
where
there
are
no
cras,
they
wonder
why
they
have
to
subsidize
cras.
G
And
then
the
people
in
the
cra
districts
want
to
know
that
the
money
spent
wisely
and
so
we're
trying
to
do
a
better
effort,
make
a
better
effort
to
show
people
what
their
cra
money
is
being
spent
on.
And
so
I,
in
our
branding,
we're
trying
to
brand
everything.
Tampa
sierra
or
something
nicole,
can
give
you
that
information.
But
when
you
talk
about
the
involvement
of
the,
if
there's
an
involvement
from
the
city,
if
the
city
is
helping
something
then
list
the
city,
and
we
also
sit
at
city
council
members.
G
J
Vieira,
thank
you
for
the
politically
correct
version.
I'm
joking.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair,
a
couple
of
things,
and
you
know
it's
funny
with
the
discussion
on
cras.
This
is
something
that
that
is
uniquely
tailored
and
narrowly
tailored
for
what
a
cra
should
do.
I
I
support
the
concept
of
cras
and
I
live
in
an
area
that
that
arguably
subsidizes
cras,
but
I
tell
people
in
my
district
for
for
people
who
live
in
areas
that
subsidize
cras.
J
I
don't
mind
paying
a
little
bit
more
and
I
know
a
lot
of
some
of
my
constituents
don't
mind
that
as
well.
If
it
goes
to
people
that
have
been
left
behind
because,
in
my
opinion,
that's
what
government
is
for.
That's
what
government
is
for
and-
and
I
think
that
we
all
agree
on-
that-
it's
the
application
of
that-
where
we
can
fall
into
some
get
in
the
weeds
and
and
whatnot,
and
that's
obviously
not
for
today.
But
you
know
going
back
to
the
critical
issue
of
the
easement.
J
J
I
have
no
interest
in
ever
doing
that
by
the
way,
but
I
know
that
it
takes
time,
and
I
know
that
if,
if
a
government
makes
an
action,
then
that
property
owner
has
redress-
and
there
are
certain
rights
that
they
have
etc,
and
that
can
take
a
lot
of
time
that
can
take
a
lot
of
time.
Litigation
takes
a
lot
of
times
very
expensive,
very
stressful,
all
that
kind
of
good
stuff,
and
what
I
want
to
look
for
is
the
fastest
solution
may
not
be
the
cheapest
solution.
J
But
for
me,
when
it
comes
to
this
house
of
money,
reason
of
within
reason,
of
course,
is
not
the
issue.
Time
is
the
issue,
and
I
want
to
look
for
the
fastest.
Don't
get
me
wrong.
We
should
explore
all
options,
that's
incumbent
on
the
city
on
staff,
etc,
but
the
way
that
I
see
it
the
most
reasonable
option
that
we
have
that
manages
cost
and
time
and
then
realistic
expectations
is
to
have
monetary
discussions
on
the
easement
to
get
that
done
as
soon
as
possible.
Again,
we
can
look
at
issues
like
in
the
domain.
J
M
And
thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation.
I've
never
seen
renderings
of
what
this
jackson
house
restored
could
look
like,
and
I
like
first
that
it
looks
original.
I
know
the
windows
are
updated
there
as
they
would
have
to
be
to
code
and
whatnot
and
the
back
part,
which
I
think
it's
it's
just
like
a
mesh
screened
in
area.
M
You
know
some
people
will
say:
oh
it
doesn't,
you
know,
makes
it
not
look
totally
original,
but
in
other
buildings,
for
example
the
german
american
club
on
nebraska,
where
metro
wellness
is
at.
They
have
something
like
this.
Where
it's
you
know
modern
within
the
the
original
it
looks
great
and
even
in
texas,
at
this
depository,
which
is
a
museum
now
they've
added
a
structure
like
this,
while
maintaining
the
originality
of
it.
But
this
looks
great
even
you
know,
because
I
never
met
what
what
would
it
look
like?
M
We've
seen
it
in
a
state
of
deterioration,
but
you
know
this
would
be.
Is
such
an
asset
and
continue
to
be
such
an
asset
to
the
community
that
it's
a
shame
that
it's
gotten
to
this
point
again
to
preserve
the
little
bit
of
physical
history
that
we
have
left
in
that
neighborhood
because
so
much
is
gone.
So,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation.
I'm
really
happy
to
see.
L
H
N
I'm
to
go
by
the
experts
if
it
gone
up
this
much
when
I've
been
saying
2.3.5
and
we're
really
at
4.2,
I'm
going
to
say
double
it.
So,
if
I
had
money
flowing,
I
would
say
double
it
and
the
only
reason
I
say
that
I've
said
in
meetings
with
code
enforcement.
I've
set
a
meeting
with
the
fire
department,
they've
come
in,
we've
met
over
city
hall
with
city
officials
and
all
they're
selling.
N
You
will
not
be
able
to
look
out
you'll,
be
able
to
see
history
of
the
jackson
house
and
those
windows
that
we
might
be
able
to
roll
some.
When
I
said
that
before
the
state
they
say
go
back.
No,
we
want
the
original
windows.
If
we
have
to
come
in
and
override
your
code
enforcement,
this
is
a
historical
project
and
we
want
the
house
to
stay
that
way,
so
the
cost
that
we
would
have
to
invest
in
in
order
to
try
to
use
the
materials
and
to
still
maintain
code
enforcement.
N
L
N
N
No,
I'm
just
going
to
say
the
other
thing
I
would
say
about
the
back
where
you
indicated
how
that
looks
great
one
of
the
things
that
the
state
has
okay
with
us
and
we've
talked
about.
The
back
portion
of
the
house
was
added
on
by
the
father.
It
was
not
part
of
the
historical
designation
which
gives
us
the
liberty,
the
feasibility
and
flexibility
in
order
to
do
something
different
on
that
back
part,
and
that's
why
we
were
able
to
do
that.
D
Could
I
add
one
thing?
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
and
you're,
not
you're,
probably
not
getting
a
cost,
because,
frankly
we
haven't
gone
down
that
path
and
the
the
other
underlying
factor
is
the
historical
context
and,
as
as
dr
conlon
said,
we've
had
discussions.
The
state
has
pushed
back.
You
know,
we've
talked
about
building
the
wall
so
that
they
would
meet
fire
rating
for
a
zero
lot
line,
but
that
totally
destroys
the
historical
context
of
the
building,
and
that
starts
to
affect
grant
money.
So
there's
there's
there's
different
constraints.
D
L
D
L
L
F
Sure
I
have
not
done
that
30
allocation
yet
because
we've
been
doing
the
work
I
I've
mentioned
to
you
and
I
don't.
The
days
are
running
together.
L
F
Now,
for
for
fiscal
year,
23
there's
about
23
million
dollars
to
be
programmed
so.
F
Because
there
have
been
several
com,
there
have
been
several
commitments
made
and
you
have
their
debt
obligations,
their
projects
that
have
already
been
programmed
in
the
budget
and
so.
F
I
don't
know
if
the
downtown
cra
can
meet
that
30
percent
it's
aspirational,
but
based
on
the
commitments
and
projects
that
have
been
that
have
already
been
made
by
this
board.
I
don't
know
what
is
left
yet.
I
plan
to
bring
that
back
to
you
in
november
one
of
the
things
that
that
I
want
you
to
understand
with
your
budget.
F
You
can
always
make
allocations
at
a
different
time
if
you
have
set
aside
money.
So
if
you
set
aside
the
seven
million
dollars
as
requested
for
the
housing
affordability
piece,
if
that
money
is
sitting
there
and
and
we're
doing
it
through,
develop
we're
incentivizing
through
development
agreements
instead
of
cash,
you
could
go
back
and
reallocate
that
funds
for
something
else
you
can
in
this
instance.
So
I'm
wearing
my
architectural
hat
right
now,
four
million
dollars
is
not
enough
to
rebuild
it.
F
I'm
just
gonna
tell
you
the
cost
of
the
cost
of
materials,
as
stated
right
before
us.
Is
it's
going
up
significantly
and,
if
you're
doing
to
maintain
the
historical
integrity
of
a
building,
it
just
costs
more
to
do
that
and
so
in
budgeting.
If
you
wanted
to
set
aside
once
this
goes
under
construction,
you
can
put
that
you
can
you
can
state
your
intent
and
we
can
reallocate
funds,
but
we
need
to
go
and
look
at
it
based
on
commitments.
F
It
would
be
irresponsible
of
me
to
stand
here
and
to
suggest
to
you
to
call
off
a
line
item
right
now
without
looking
at
the
responsibilities
that
you
have
committed
to
at
a
previous
budget.
So
if
you
would
allow
me,
since
I'm
in
my
item
number
12,
I'm
coming
back
to
talk
to
you
about
budget
and
I'm
I'm
requesting
that
this
board,
allow
me
to
come
back
to
you
in
november
with
those
housing
allocations,
because
elise
has
been
going
to
all
the
cras
making.
F
Having
those
conversations,
I
can
also
take
a
look
and
see
what
money
is
available
in
downtown
outside
of
the
commitment
that
could
presumably
be
used
to
support
the
to
further
support
the
jackson
house.
I
do
know
that
you
guys
make
it
very
difficult
for
me
to
negotiate
on
real
estate
transactions.
I'm
just
telling
you
that,
because.
F
Real
estate
transactions
in
just
in
a
public
forum,
but
the
the
board,
if
I
am
correct,
has
made
a
decision
to
alec
to
reallocate
a
million
dollars
right
now
to
support
this
project.
And
I
would
I
would
really
like
for
you
to
give
elise
and
I
the
opportunity
to
go
and
see
what
we
can
do
and
come
back
and
report
to
you
in
the
november
meeting.
And
I
will
also
take
a
look
at
the
budget
to
your
questioning,
sir,
and
you
can
direct
me
how
to
reallocate
at
that
point.
L
Miss
travis
again
you're
a
superhero
I
wasn't
trying
to
to
to
pin
down
to
an
amount.
But
again
there
is
talk
of
of
sunsetting
cras
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
funds
we
get
so.
F
F
It's
it's
a
good
point,
because
it's
a
conversation
that
you
had
this
morning
about
where
there's
no
blight
and
one
once
this,
the
work
of
the
cra
is
done,
but
it's
particularly
in
downtown.
There
are
financial
commitments
that
have
been
made,
and
so
we
need
to
look
at
the
expiration
of
the
cra.
What
those
financial
commitments
are,
how
much
is
left
over
and
what
work
is
left
to
be
done.
K
K
You
don't
know
how
far
it's
going
to
go
and
what
it's
going
to
be.
That's
number
one.
The
cra
certainly
have
what
you
said:
20
some
million
dollars
in
there
this
one
and
then
you
know
what
I
would
imagine
the
anticipated
revenue
year
after
year,
providing
I
forgot
when
ncra
is
supposed
to
end.
It's
got
a
what
a
30
year.
K
K
And
perpetually
forever
that
what
you
put
in
is
going
to
stay
the
way
it
is
and
you're
looking
at
someone
down
the
road
when
there
may
not
be
a
cra
and
other
things
sure
that
the
windows
and
other
things
that
you
put
in
today
are
going
to
cost
an
enormous
amount
of
money
to
put
up
again
this
I'm
using
this
building
as
an
example.
Yes,
and
and
those
are
the
things
that
you're
going
to
be
faced,
not
only
realistically
what
you
go
today,
but
20
years
from
now.
K
What
do
you
have
to
do
to
maintain
it
when
there
is
no
cra
yeah
things
of
that
nature?
So
those
are
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
ask,
and
you
have
to
be
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
times
change
and
prices
change
and
the
people
change
and
operational
monies
change.
So
you
have
to
be
careful
what
we
plan
for
it's
got
to
be
something
stable
that
lasts
for
a
long,
long
time.
Yeah.
Thank
you.
G
Okay,
just
to
what
my
colleagues
said,
I
remember
the
last
presentation
we
had
on
all
the
projects
that
are
going
through.
You
know
one
is:
is
there
was
a
long-term
commitment
to
a
big
development
project,
but
I
think
that
is
reducing
or
gonna
sunset.
D
G
Some
point
soon
so
as
that
tapers
off
there's
like
five
or
ten
million
dollars
a
year,
that
it
will
be
available
and
then
we've
added
in
several
arts
organizations
and
historic
organizations,
and
not
all
of
those
to
my
colleagues,
not
all
of
those
are
named
because
at
least
one
of
them
is
very
sensitive
because
there
are
some
legal
issues
related
to
it.
G
But
I
would
encourage
everybody
if,
if
you
haven't
talk
to
nicole
privately
about
all
the
all
the
different
line
items
that
are
there
and
to
to
council
board
member
vieira
and
seat
board
member
sierra's
points,
I
think
this
is
exactly
the
kind
of
project
that
a
cra
should
fund
and
before
we
sunset
or
put
some
kind
of
cap
on
the
on
the
downtown
sierra.
Absolutely
we
should.
We
should
do
that.
G
My
original
thought
10
years
ago,
was
that
we
should
rebuild
some
of
the
important
buildings
that
were
that
were
in
central
avenue.
I
talked
to
coley
coney
and
some
others
about
you
know
their
family's
buildings.
G
Now
it's
not
possible
because
of
because
the
of
what's
happening
with
the
property
round,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
we
maintain
the
history
of
central
avenue
in
addition
to
the
jackson
house,
the
last
thing
I'll
say
is
dr
collins:
still
here
you
don't
have
to
get
up,
but
just
to
just
to
let
you
know
when,
when
when
I
was
when
linda
salzan
and
I
were
were
partnering
with
willie
10
years
ago,
he
let
a
friend
of
ours,
amy
martz,
I
don't
know
if
you
ever
met
her
she's,
a
con
architecture
and
fine
arts
photographer,
but
he
let
her
walk
in
at
that
time.
G
I
know
usf
and
others
have
been
in
there
using
laser
scans
and
everything,
but
he
but
she
walked
in
at
that
time
and
I
don't
think
willie
walked
in
with
her,
but
anyway,
he
kind
of
told
her
what
was
in
it.
She
went
in
and
documented
the
whole
thing.
If
you
haven't
seen
her
pictures,
please
let
me
know
and
we'll
get
them
to
I'll
connect
you
with
her.
G
But
the
other
thing
is
that
we
we
now
have
in
our
city
council
hallway
one
of
the
pictures
that
that
amy
took-
and
I
think,
willie
told
her
about
it-
that's
how
she
knew
about
it
is
there
were
three.
G
I
think
it
was
three
handprints
on
the
wall,
so
willie
as
a
child,
and
then
his
parents
and
she
took
a
photograph
of
that
and
she
created
an
abstract
big
photo
and
that
photo
is
just
inside
the
city
council
chamber
doors
and
if
you
haven't
seen
it
or
if
anybody
and
willie's
family
hasn't
seen
it,
let's
be
sure
to
make
sure
you
all
see
that,
but
we
we
have,
we
all
have
a
love
for
the
building
and
and
the
history
of
tampa
african
american
history
of
tampa,
and
we
want
to
help
you
and
partner
with
you.
N
Mayor
just
to
comment-
and
I
agree
about
what
it's
going
to
be
in
the
future-
that's
why
we
want
to
maintain
the
historical
designation
in
the
reconstruction
now,
so
that
we'll
be
able
to
go
back
and
get
reoccurring,
historical
grants
and
that's
what
the
state
is
encouraging
us
to
do.
So,
that's
why
that's
important
and
that
handprint
on
one
wall
was
willie's
grandfather.
N
G
I
All
right,
thank
you.
Well,
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
an
update
from
the
tampa
police
department.
Major
deep
felice
will
be
providing
that
staff
report.
O
Morning,
council,
good
morning,
major
eric
d,
feliz
city
of
tampa
police
department
district,
three
here
to
provide
you
an
update
from
our
last
meeting
that
you
requested.
O
So
we
are
discussing
how
the
cra
and
tampa
police
department
are
working
together
to
combat
violent
crime
in
our
community.
So
we
have
continued.
Creating
partnerships
within
the
east
tampa
community
that
will
assist
with
the
reduction
of
violence
in
our
community
participating
in
the
young
voices.
Young
choices
program
that
was
created
by
the
tampa
bay
center
for
community
transformation
hosted
by
pastor
walker,
is
one
of
those
initiatives
in
its
infancy,
they're
bringing
forth
a
program
that
involves
taking
youth
from
east
tampa
area
and
putting
them
in
the
driver's
seat.
O
Getting
some
community
members,
some
clergy,
as
well
as
police
officers,
to
sit
down,
have
a
just
a
discussion
on
how
youth
view
the
state
of
affairs,
the
violence
in
the
community.
What
we
can
do
better
and
just
set
to
set
the
course
and
give
them
a
voice.
So
that
program
is
in
infancy,
trying
to
figure
out
dates
and
such
to
move
forward
that,
but
that's
something
that
we
would
very
much
like
to
be.
O
A
part
of
to
date,
our
officers
have
removed
501
guns
from
district
3,
which
is
up
approximately
85
guns
from
the
same
time
period
last
year.
That
is
significant.
That
shows
the
commitment
that
we
have
to
eradicating
violent
crime
in
our
community.
Our
officers
are
well
aware
of
the
violence
and
the
crimes
that
are
committed
not
only
with
the
guns,
but
the
crimes
leading
up
to
guns,
so
our
focus
has
been
on
crime.
O
In
general,
we
take
something
like
an
auto
burglary
where
these
guns
are
coming
from
and
if
we
just
merely
focused
on
guns
and
violent
crime,
then
we'll
be
missing
a
big
part
of
this
picture,
so
crime
in
general.
A
lot
of
these
guns
are
taken
from
unlocked,
auto
burglaries.
So
we
focus
on
that
too.
So
by
having
that
approach
that
holistic
approach,
we
are
seeing
a
greater
number
of
guns
being
taken
off
the
street,
and
that
is
good
to
reduce
the
amount
of
crime
in
the
community.
O
O
O
They're
involved
with
the
coordination
of
community
events
and
plans
are
in
place
for
a
trunk
or
treat
event
that
we
are
putting
on,
which
is
a
great,
a
great
idea,
and
it
provides
a
safe
location
for
children
to
enjoy
the
halloween
holiday.
So
we
will
have
officers
participating
as
well.
Those
members
of
the
community
officers
will
be
able
to
decorate
their
trunks
and
hand
out
candy
to
a
large
number
of
children
and
provide
that
safe
place,
that
safe
environment
for
the
kids
and
that
event
is
being
coordinated
by
our
sce
units.
O
We're
also
involved
in
hosting
a
thanksgiving
celebration
at
our
district
three
station.
Now
this
event
is
put
on
and
coordinated
by
miss
tanya
lewis,
who
I
believe
was
honored
here
a
few
days
ago,
but
she
partners
with
us
again
to
try
to
create
that
bond
in
the
community
it'll
be
held
at
our
district
three
location
last
year.
I
believe
they
served
five
to
600
people,
not
only
police
officers
that
are
hungry
on
the
holiday,
saying
thanks,
but
members
of
the
community.
O
O
His
efforts
have
a
significant
impact
on
reducing
violent
crime
in
east
tampa
and,
as
we
stated,
or
as
I
stated
before,
about
addressing
all
crime
that
might
lead
to
violent
crime,
he
does
that
he
addresses
the
slum
and
the
blight
in
the
community,
making
sure
that
problem
areas
are
addressed
and
they're
either
handled
by
any
way.
The
p-nav
board
total
destruction
of
and
addresses
that
are
vacant.
O
Lots
are
being
addressed
so
people
in
the
community
when
they
call
in
know
that
they
have
a
voice
for
these
quality
of
life
issues
and
that
someone's
going
to
go
out
there
and
take
it
seriously.
He
does
a
great
job
and
he's
a
great
asset,
and
he
helps
maybe
not
so
much
with
directly
with
the
violent
crime,
but
all
these
ancillary
crimes
that
would
lead
to
it.
O
So
he's
wonderful
and
the
part,
the
department's
still
working
with
our
federal
partners,
creating
workforce
synergy
to
effectively
engage
a
violent
crime
in
the
community
and
what
that
means
is
we
are
taking
cases
federal
with
our
our
partners.
We
are
looking
for
ways
to
enhance
crimes
for
those
recidivists.
O
He
was
transported
or
to
wt
edwards
in
secure
detention,
but
another
one
because
he
was
relatively
new
and
didn't
have
a
history
was
offered
our
diversionary
program.
It
just
goes
to
show
that
we're
not
just
heavy-handed
in
our
approach
that
we
are
lenient
when,
when
dictated
and
when
the
necessity
is
there
moving
on
to
ebor
captain
theo
and
I
still
participate
in
our
regular
stakeholder
meetings
to
address
concerns
and
discuss
current
conditions.
O
Captain
thiel
has
been
wonderful
at
meeting
the
needs
of
the
stakeholders
in
that
area,
and
we
are
very
happy
with
the
results
of
these
meetings.
These
meetings
involve
many
people,
the
players,
and
it
allows
us
to
talk
about
what's
working,
what
we
need
to
do
in
the
future
and
you
know,
set
and
manage
expectations
as
we
move
forward.
O
The
collaboration
in
these
meetings
is
great.
It
fosters
transparency
and
communication,
which
is
key
to
have
success
in
that
area.
Our
eboor
liaison
position.
We
reinstituted
that
so
officer,
brandon
kane.
His
name
was
brought
up
as
an
officer
that
took
a
vested
interest
in
that
area,
so
everyone
that
we
had
spoke
to
knew
brandon,
kane
or
richie
mercado,
and
we
were
able
to
obtain
brandon
kane
to
put
him
in
this
position
and
so
far
he
is
doing
an
outstanding
job.
O
O
They
handled
the
situation
without
police
involvement,
quieted
down
the
situation
and
got
it
to
move
on,
which
is
exactly
what
we
would
expect
when
they
arrive
here.
So
we're
looking
forward
to
that
coming
online.
The
ycdc
overtime
project
has
resumed
now
the
school's
back
in
session.
So
what
that
does
is
put
more
officers
in
our
entertainment
district
to
deal
with
some
of
the
problems
that
we're
having
the
e-board
camera
project
is
moving
along.
O
We
are
going
to
be
adding
cameras
to
the
system
to
help
bolster
that
security,
and
we
are
upgrading
the
cameras
now
because
our
tni
department,
the
people
who
are
putting
them
in,
have
identified
an
issue
with
the
cameras
and
they're
trying
to
make
it
more
compatible
with
a
wireless
system
which,
in
the
future,
will
reduce
cost
and
prevent
issues
of
us
taking
them
down
to
upgrade
them
later,
while
also
juggling
this
project
with
the
lighting
archway
project.
That
is
going
to
go
on
and
is
scheduled
to
commence
in
november.
O
O
As
you
can
talk
about
it
all
day,
and
I
can
explain
it,
but
when
you're
out
there
at
three
in
the
morning-
and
you
see
how
we
clear
the
streets
in
a
matter
of
minutes,
how
we
go
from
hundreds
of
people
to
just
stragglers-
it's
quite
impressive.
So
we're
hoping
that
they
would
take
the
time
to
come
here,
and
maybe
we
can
go
there
to
learn
their
best
practices
as
well.
So
that
is
the
update
that
I
have
for
you.
Are
there
any
questions.
A
Thank
you
board
member
goods
since.
B
B
They
have
blocked
it
off
because
they
had
several
shootings
on
that
main
strip.
Seven
eight
people
shot,
you
know
and
they
put
up
metal
detectors
and
you
one
way
you
can
come
through.
There
is
to
be
screened
and
checked
and
most
of
the
bars
have
them
there.
You
know,
I
know
it's
got
to
be
kind
of
expensive,
but
since
you
mentioned,
I
had
to
tell
you
kind
of
what
they're
doing
over
there
as
it
relates
to
eboard.
You
know
I
I
frequently
like
that's
my
district.
B
I
talk
to
the
owners
and
things
like
that,
but
there
is
an
uptick
because
of
the
students
have
returned
from
return
to
school.
There's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
underage
drinking
in
nebor.
Now
I
think
we
need
to
get
some
undercover
people
to
go
in
there
and
see
if
we
can
put
a
halt
a
little
bit
of
it.
I've
seen
a
lot
of
young
kids
down
there
since
school's
been
back
the
last
couple
weekends
during
the
week.
O
So
we
we
have,
we
did
that
in
the
beginning
of
the
summer,
and
I
see
the
need
for
it
now
that
the
kids
are
back
to
school,
that
we
worked
with
the
tobacco
atf
or
abt
to
come
in,
and
they
put
undercovers
in
to
make
sure
that
there
are
no
underage
drinkers
in
there.
So
that's
something
that
we
will
visit
and
we
do
try
to
do
in
a
regular
interval
to
keep
them
honest.
Just.
B
Some
of
the
borrowers
that
ask
me
about
that-
I
guess
my
biggest
part
is
the:
is
the
east,
the
middle
portion?
You
mentioned
a
lot
of
programs,
I
like
programs,
but
some
of
the
programs
I
see,
aren't
really
hitting
the
target
people
we
need
to
hit.
B
When
I
go
to
a
lot
of
these
programs,
I
see
a
lot
of
our
smaller
kids
and
that's
that's
great.
We
want
to
educate
those
smaller
kids,
but
the
kids
that
we
need
to
be
touching
are
the
ones
who
are
actually
doing
things
or
getting
ready
to
do
things
and
we're
not
touching
those
and
freddie
brown's,
a
good
friend
of
mine.
I
told
him
the
same
thing
when
I
go
to
some
of
these
meetings.
I
see
some
kids
I'm
like.
Why
is
that
kid
here?
B
We
got
to
find
some
money
to
have
some
buys
to
get
some
guns
off
the
street.
I
know
the
congregation
of
lake
avenue
and
29th
we,
you
know
it's
been
there
for
years,
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
have
miss
travis
and
the
cac
start
to
look
at
some
of
those
properties
to
start
redeveloping
that
that's
going
to
be
a
key
to
that.
But
the
biggest
problem
I
get,
I
see
miss,
take
sears
mothers.
B
The
biggest
problem
we
have
is
is
the
lottery
on
on
lake
avenue,
and
it
just
behooves
me
that
we
have
a
housing
authority
and
I
don't
know
the
cooperation
you're
getting
from
or
not,
but
to
have
a
housing
authority,
and
I
got
people
out
actually
gambling
right
there
on
the
property
on
the
housing
authority
on
lake
avenue
from
the
police
station
that
just
bothers
me.
It
just
really
bothers
me
because
the
constituents
see
that-
and
they
continue
to
call
me
about
that.
B
I
know
king's
been
working
the
same
way
for
years
and
I
don't
know
how
we're
gonna
really
come
back
there,
but
I
know
we
have
nuisance
abatement.
We
have
code
enforcement
and
we
gotta
hold
some
of
these
people
accountable,
what
they're
allowing
on
their
property.
So
I'm
just
hoping
that
we
can
step
that
up
a
little
bit
more
because
that's
the
the
major
part
of
our
complaints
right.
B
There
is
those
areas
right
there
that
people
are
just
hanging
out,
and
I
know
we
got
the
other
king's
house
right
across
the
liquor
store,
that's
a
private
property
as
well,
but
I
mean
the
the
multitude
of
people
that
are
that
are
out
there.
The
residents
are
they're
starting
to
wake
up.
Now
you
got
good
crime
watchers
in
the
area.
Now
we've
got
good
people
now
and
now
they're
saying
well.
What
are
we
gonna
do
so
you
being
a
new
guy?
B
I
hope
you
ever
find
a
new
strategy,
that's
in
the
cabinet
and
do
his
job,
but
sometimes
other
people
have
a
different
strategy.
Some
of
you
have
demonstrated
kind
of
help,
some
of
that,
but
I
want
to
find
a
program
that
you
know
that
that
we
can
touch
the
hot
kids.
That's
what
I
need
the
hot
kids
and
you
could
have,
but
in
the
bachelor
program
could
work.
B
He'll
know
my
struggle,
don't
know
my
plight,
but
having
a
program
that
you
have
those
guys
who
can
deal
with
those
young
men
and
some
women
too
to
get
their
mindset.
Now
you
know
that's
what
I'm
hoping
to
see
in
the
future,
those
type
of
programs
and
us
finding
some
of
this
money
or
some
of
this
money
we
get
from
complicated
stuff
to
be
able
to
actually
go
out
and
find
those
u-hauls
that
are
coming
in
there
selling
these
guns
because
they're
there
it's.
That
is
true.
So
hopefully
you
look
at
some
strategy.
B
Major.
Thank
you.
O
So
the
if
I
may,
the
program
that
I
talked
about
earlier
is
a
program
that
is
addressing
just
that,
because
the
target
audience
is
from
14
to
24..
Typically,
we
see
it
stop
at
18
years
old,
when
somebody's
an
adult
and
the
ambassadors
that
they're
using
for
this
program
are
from
the
the
city,
members
of
the
community
that
have
been
through
it
that
live
there.
O
You
know
what
it
should
be,
so
that
program
speaks
to
what
you're
talking
about
great
and
we're
hoping
that
these
first
two
classes
or
programs
that
this
will.
You
know
catapult
us
forward
on
as
we
can
go
through
and
make
changes
to
this,
and
this
is
a
successful.
You
know
endeavor,
as
in
regards
to
lake
avenue.
I
think
that
you
know
being
the
new
guy.
O
Yes,
I
was
there
as
a
lieutenant
and
I
think
that
the
biggest
thing
that
we
need
is
the
community
support,
because
I
hear
what
you
say
about
the
loitering
and
how
bad
it
looks,
and
I
personally
have
been
there
and
run
the
people
off
and
had
a
conversation
like.
Why
do
you
have
to
sit
here?
O
Why
can't
you
go
there
and
it's
well,
you
know
I
get
all
kinds
of
reasons
and
we
keep
doing
the
same
thing
groundhog
day
and
we
do
it
over
and
over
and
when
we
do
that,
sometimes
that
same
community
will
not
support
us
in
the
cause
that
we
have
so
community
support.
Knowing
that
we're
there
not
because
we're
trying
to
be
you
know
overbearing,
but
because
the
community
is
asking
us
to
be
there
for
them.
You
know
that
support
would
be
great.
So
if
we
can
garner
that
support,
it
will
help
us
in
our
mission.
B
I
think
they
hear
you
they're
here.
I
know
the
the
three
neighborhood
associates
in
that
area
that
are
very
strong
and
they're
vocal
now
about
it,
so
I
think
meeting
with
them
and
getting
their
folks
out
there
and
and
that
when
you
have
that
that
they
got
your
back
yeah,
that's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
strain
off
of
you,
and
I
know
we
said
well,
we
don't
want
to
go
out
already,
but
sometimes
we
have
to
do.
We
have
to
do
sometimes
to
eradicate
a
problem.
B
Yes,
and
when
I
look
on
the
south
side
of
the
street
on
lake,
I
mean
that
ain't,
nobody
properly
right,
they're
just
hanging
out
there.
So
I
just
look
at
I
support
it.
I'm
I'm
always
vocal
about
that.
So
you
have
my
support
on
that.
I
don't
care
about
no
black.
Whatever
I
care
about
cleaning
that
area,
and
so
the
residents
can
be
safe
because
they
are
complaining
now
they
have
walked,
they
awoken
now
and
they
they're
complaining.
Now
what
are
we
going
to
do
so?
You
have
my
support
on
that.
G
Three
quick
questions:
one
of
the
issues
that
that
we've
heard
a
lot
of
complaints
about
an
e-board
is,
is
people
hanging
out
in
parking
lots
and-
and
I
you
I
think-
maybe
we
answered
this
before.
But
could
you
just
confirm?
Are
you
you
all
are
shutting
them
down
at
three
or
kind
of
shoeing
people
on
at
three
or
four.
O
Yes,
at
3am,
when
we
conduct
our
sweep,
we
direct
the
traffic
to
one
direction,
it's
usually
towards
15th,
so
we
see
that
their
influx
of
people
going
to
those
parking
lots
on
15th,
7th,
8th
and
5th.
So,
yes,
we
have
our
officers
there
and
they
will
be
in
the
parking
lots
with
their
lights
on.
So
you
see
the
visible
vehicle
there,
as
well
as
a
large
number
of
officers.
We
move
them
as
we
shift
down
with
the
people.
O
G
Honest
question
that
this,
what's
it
called
shot
stopper
is
that
I
don't
know
if
I
have
the
name
right,
shotspotter
spot
spotter,
it's
I
think
we
paid
250
000
a
year
for
it
has
had
have
you
seen,
and
I
know
you're
just
talking
about
two
areas
of
the
city,
but
have
you
seen
specific
crimes
that
were
prevented
or
that
were
solved
because
of
that?
O
It
is
my
belief
that
this
program
is
beneficial,
because
the
vast
majority
of
the
shots
that
are
that
go
on
are
unreported.
It
is
something
ridiculous
like
above
80
percent
of
these.
These
calls
are
unreported.
O
So
if
the
members
of
the
community
that
are
experiencing
this
violence
do
not
report
the
crime,
then
we
don't
even
know
about
it
before
we
had
the
system.
So
now
that
we
have
this
system,
it
allows
for
better
response
times
better
recovery
of
evidence.
That's
on
scene
that
could
lead
to
you
know
helping
solve
crimes
that
may
not
have
been
perpetrated.
Maybe
a
murder
or
something
wasn't
done
there,
but.
G
O
Yes,
I
have
stats
right
here,
notable
cases
I
can.
I
could
provide
it
to
okay.
G
Yeah,
maybe
you
could
email
it
to
all
of
us.
If
you
don't
and
the
last
question
is,
is
there
anything
we
can
do
to
support
you
and
your
your
team,
for
example,
parking
lots?
I
don't
even
know
if
this
is
possible,
but
if
we
put
a
curfew
on
parking
lots
in
ebor
or
something
like
that
is
there
is
there
anything
and
I
just
threw
that
as
an
as
an
example,
but
is
there
anything
we
can
do
as
city
council
or
as
cra
to
support
you.
O
I
think
there's
an
ordinance
in
place
that
states
something
to
the
effect
that
there
has
to
be
a
parking
lot
attendant
at
a
private
lot.
So
we
at
the
city
we
have
like,
I
don't
even
know
like
nine
security
officers,
that
patrol
ours,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
we're
seeing
that
same
level
of
security
from
the
private
lots,
and
that
has
been
a
challenge
that
we
have
faced.
O
We
want
to
make
sure
if
we,
if,
if
you
were
going
to
revisit
that
or
you
know,
we
could
talk
about
that,
to
discuss
it,
that
somebody
would
be
there
and
be
visible
on
the
property
as
a
deterrent,
because
a
lot
of
what's
going
on
people
leave
the
club
early
they're
hanging
in
the
parking
lots.
They're
smoking
marijuana
drinking
in
their
vehicles
playing
loud
music,
because
that
it's
just
a
bear
and
land
with
some
empty
cars
having
a
visible
deterrent
there.
G
If
you
have
ideas,
please
let
us
know
sitting
at
city
council,
we
would
love
to
support
you
all.
You
know
that
there's
there
are
multiple
efforts
to
try
to
turn
ebor
back
into
a
community,
and
people
will
only
do
that
if
they
feel
safe.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
L
You
councilman
carlson
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
Even
back
when
I
was
on
the
yc.
Excuse
me:
east
tampa
cac.
There
was
always
talk
of
that.
Most
of
these
parking
lot
attendants
once
the
parking
lot
gets
full
they're
gone,
and
I
think
our
city
needs
to
start
enforcing
that
rule,
that
a
parking
lot
attendant
must
be
there.
The
whole
time
also
during
my
times
on
the
ybor
city,
cac.
L
O
There
are
the
shift
that
would
handle
that
leaves
around
between
3,
30
and
four
in
the
morning.
Okay,
so,
typically
by
that
time,
like
it's
really
cleared
out
in
igbo
city,
but
those
workers,
depending
on
how
long
the
amount
of
officers
would
decrease,
because
those
people
would
go
home,
but
the
amount
of
people
left
in
ybor
city
is
virtually
nothing
at
those
hours.
But
there
are
people
we
do
have
our
midnight
shift
units
that
don't
get
off
until
seven
in
the
morning
and
there'll
be
a
zone
unit.
O
K
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
officer
for
the
final
work
yourself
and
the
department
is
doing,
and
we
all
appreciate
it.
The
501
guns
that
were
certainly
brought
into
your
efforts.
It's
a
large
amount
and
more
likely,
there's
five
thousand
more
to
be
found
in
any
given
place
at
any
given
time.
But
along
those
lines,
when
you
see
a
young
kid
three
years
old,
with
a
gun
in
his
hand,
shooting
a
five-year-old
family
member
three-year-old
know
what
he
was
doing.
K
So
that
leads
me
to
believe
that
the
gun
was
evidently
left
somewhere
real
low
loaded
for
a
three-year-old
to
carry
a
gun
and
shoot
the
gun.
It's
almost
impossible,
unless
somebody
just
left
it
there.
Yes,
sir,
at
a
very
low,
not
anywhere
high,
whether
the
rio
couldn't
reach
it,
but
have
we
ever
done,
I'm
sure
you
have,
but
do
you
have
any
statistics
on
why
people
shoot
people
without
even
knowing
who
they
are
or
nothing,
there's,
no,
there's
no
motives
of
operation.
What
the
thought
process
was,
and
mostly
of
them
are
young
people.
K
K
In
general,
yes,
sir,
because
it
I'm
bothered
by
well
I'm
bothered
by
certainly
the
gun.
Did
the
thing
don't
get
me
wrong
at
all?
The
gun
should
not
be
there,
but
the
mental
capacity
of
somebody
to
shoot.
Somebody
at
that
time
tells
me
that
they
have
no
feeling
of
life
for
themselves,
because
repercussion
is
a
long
life
sentence,
at
least
for
life.
So
what
is
the
does?
Anybody
know
why
these
kids
are
doing
these
things?
Is
it
something
that's
a
hobby?
They
see
something
happening
somewhere.
K
They
want
to
do
it
here
or
is
it
they
see
it
here?
They
want
to
do
it
somewhere
else.
I
don't
know
if
it's
hunting
season
on
humans,
because
evidently
we're
heading
in
the
wrong
direction
as
a
society,
we
have
more
killings
in
this
country
than
the
next
15
countries
that
have
the
same
type
of
governments
that
we
have
combined
more
people
get
killed
by
guns
than
in
traffic
accidents
of
youth
and
all
those
statistics
are
just
overbearing.
K
That
there's
got
to
be
a
psychological
reason
why
these
kids
do.
That.
Is
it
that
the
great
just
watching
violence
at
the
home
watching
violence
on
tv
watching
violence
on
the
computer?
I
don't
I
don't
really
know,
but
it's
got
to
be
some
mix
of
something.
That's
trigging,
all
these
young
kids
to
do
what
they're
doing
I'm
not
a
psychiatrist
or
any
anything
near
that.
But
there's
got
to
be
a
reason
mindset
at
the
time
that
they
do
it.
Have
they
given
up
hope
on
life?
Do
they
want
to
be
become
famous?
O
Like
I
said,
we're
not
psychologists
either,
but
I
think
it's
a
multitude
of
everything
that
you
mentioned
feeding
into
this.
You
know
this
violent
society
that
we
have
yeah,
it's
not
good
and
we
definitely
need
to
turn
it
around.
J
You
very
much
madam
chair,
and
and
thank
you
for
all
your
work,
and
you
know
what
one
of
the
things
that
I
always
say
is:
is
that
for
me,
violent
crime
and
and
where
it
pops
up
in
communities,
is
also
a
justice
issue
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
would
disagree
with
me
on
that?
But
it's
it's
really
easy
for
people
who
don't
live,
because
I
see
this
as
a
report
on
east
tampa
and
ybor
city.
We
could
also
talk
potentially
about
some
areas
in
west
tampa.
J
Sulphur
springs
and
other
areas
right,
but
we
don't
see
shooting
like
this
in
hunters,
green
in
tampa
palms
on
bayshore
and
palmicia.
It's
really
easy
for
people
who
aren't
in
the
middle
of
that
who
have
neighbors,
who
who
are
suffering
like
this,
to
put
your
head
in
the
sand
and
not
see
that
suffering
right.
It's
suffering,
that's
done
by
communities
that
have
been
left
behind.
J
So
for
me,
this
is
a
justice
issue.
Again.
Some
people
may
not
agree
with
that.
But
but
that's
where
I
stand
it's
a
justice
and
equity
issue
and
you
guys
police
officers
are
always
on
the
front
line.
There
putting
your
lives
and
your
bodies
at
risk
to
protect
those
vulnerable
communities
right
and,
and
we're
very,
very
thankful
for
that.
We're
very,
very
thankful
for
that,
and
but
I
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
I
I
always
say
that
that
it's
really
easy
to
put
your
head
in
the
sand.
J
When
you're
in
a
gated
community
to
what's
happening
in
east
tampa
or
reborn
city
or
parts
of
west
tampa
or
sulphur
springs,
it's
got
to
be
an
obligation
that
we
all
share
right
by
supporting
the
police
by
supporting
victims
rights
organizations
by
going
to
rallies
and
being
our
brother
and
sister's
keeper
right,
because
people
are
dying
and
we
are
seeing
an
increase
in
violent
crime
and
it's
not
happening
in
gated
communities.
But
it's
incumbent
on
all
of
us
to
have
each
other's
back
as
much
as
we
can.
So
just
thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
B
They
have
resources,
they
have
nice
things,
so
one
would
say
if
I
want
to
change
the
whole
paradigm
of
all,
that's
where
money
needs
to
go
those
places
that
are
underserved,
because
if
I
feel
better,
I
do
better.
If
I
look
good,
I
do
good
now
I
have
a
better
standard
of
life,
so
those
are
one
of
the
things
you
put
out
so
a
lot.
If
we
could
just
reset
and
put
those
things
into
real
practicalities,
we
wouldn't
have
a
lot
of
gun
violence.
B
Children
or
parents
who
single
household
families
and
things
like
that,
if
we
can
shift
some
resources
and
we
talk
about
equity
and
equality,
so
sometimes
they
don't
the
two,
don't
balance
so
you've
got
to
balance
both
for
amount
to
get
the
same
result
over
here
to
over
here.
So
I
take
your
point,
but
I
think
what
you
said.
People
need
to
hear
that
and
start
putting
the
dollars
where
it
needs
to
go
now,
and
we
won't
have
a
lot
of
problems
we
have
in
our
communities.
J
Yes,
no
obviously,
I
agree
with
that.
I
mean
you
take
a
look
at
things
that
this
council
has
passed
things
like
the
apprenticeship
program,
for
example
to
me:
that's
not
just
a
matter
of
economic
development
and
training,
that's
also
an
anti-crime
idea,
because
when
you
have
kids
from
schools,
whether
it
be
king,
middleton,
jefferson,
wherever
it
may
be,
who
know
that
they
have
a
future
that
the
middle
class
lifestyle
can
be
within
their
reach
in
a
working
class
lifestyle
through
the
skilled
trades,
that's
going
to
fight
hopelessness,
returning
citizens.
J
You
know,
we've
talked
about
that
for
the
first
time
in
years
here
on
city
council,
that's
an
issue
that
goes
to
that
and
I
think
that
we're
all
united
and
I
agree-
110,
you
know,
crime
isn't
just
about
crime,
has
many
different
features
and
we
have
to
be
tough
on
violent
crime,
but
also
tough
on
the
causes
of
violent
crime
and
and
and
and
again
I
go
back
to
a
statement
I
made
earlier.
J
That's
why
I
believe
in
government,
politically,
philosophically
government
can
be
a
resource
and
promoting
equity
and
in
promoting
justice,
and-
and
I
come
from
the
idea
that
I
don't
mind
paying
more.
In
fact,
I
support
paying
more
if
it
means
that
we're
going
to
be
instituting
justice
and
equity
in
our
city
and
our
state
and
in
our
country.
Thank
you
very
much.
K
K
The
homeowner
is
liable
for
some
of
the
fault,
70
percent
of
those
crimes,
the
door
to
the
car
is
not
locked,
the
windows
are
down
and
the
keys
or
the
clicker
to
the
garage
is
in
the
car
70
from
the
latest
statistics
that
I
saw
some
years
back.
So
in
other
words,
we
have
to
train
the
people
who
live
there,
also
to
make
sure
that
the
car
is
locked,
not
that
they're
not
going
to
break
it
to
the
window
or
something,
but
at
least
there's
a
the
alarm
will
go
off.
K
The
alarm
is
not
going
to
go
off
when
the
door
is
not
not
locked,
so
we
have
to
train
not
only
the
ones
that
are
doing
it,
but
the
ones
that
are
becoming
the
victims,
because
it's
got
to
be
told
the
story
to
them
day
in
and
day
out.
You
got
to
do
it
three
times
you
got
to
see
it,
read
it
and
understand
it
and
that's
what
you
guys
are
doing,
and
I
appreciate
it
very
much.
C
A
To
say
thank
you
for
the
incredibly
detailed
report
about
what
you're
doing
in
an
area
that
really
needs
a
lot
of
attention,
and
I
appreciate
how
not
only
were
you
able
to
give
such
a
detailed
presentation,
but
you
were
able
to
answer
questions
with
with
statistics,
and
we
really
appreciate
that
it
shows
just
the
great
work
you're
doing
and
in
the
new
job
you
have
so
congratulations
and
thank
you
and
council,
I'm
sorry
board
member
goods.
Did
you
have
anything
that
you
wanted
to
move
forward?
Okay,
thank
you.
So
much
have
a.
A
E
E
The
update
will
include
the
following
listed
items.
Oh
please
forgive
me.
I
want
to
first
commend
all
of
you
for
the
previous
discussion.
It
is
so
much
needed
gun
violence
within
the
community
of
tampa
florida.
Please
keep
up
the
discussion
and
allow
us
to
discuss
it
with
you.
We
have
to
keep
that
dialogue
going
because
it
is
real
it's
happening
and
it
needs
to
end.
Thank
you
so
much.
E
E
E
We
had
an
eventful
year
and
in
this
presentation
I
will
share
the
highlights
and
future
events.
I'd
also
like
to
say
that
I
have
one
of
the
cac
chair
members
here
with
well
committed
committee
members
with
excuse
me
committee
members
with
me
here
today
and
I'd
like
for
her
to
stand.
Natasha
goodly
is
in
the
audience
next,
walt
disney
once
said.
E
E
E
E
E
E
The
chair
of
land
use
is
mrs
kimberly.
Hedlin
the
chair
of
our
evaluation
and
planning
is
attorney
clinton.
Paris.
He
also
sits
on
the
cac
board
the
chair
of
our
economic
development,
which
is
no
stranger
to
any
of
you,
mrs
allison
hewitt,
and
also
the
chair
of
the
membership
and
community
outreach
is
miss
maquila
mccaskill.
E
E
E
E
E
We
had
a
rocket
start,
but
once
again
I
would
like
to
thank
the
cra
board.
You
all
the
new
cra
leadership,
the
east
tampa
cra
staff,
ms
mccray,
the
administration
and
the
administration
for
their
support
of
the
east
tampa
cra
and
the
east
tampa
community.
This
concludes
my
report
this
morning.
Thank
you.
M
You
very
much
miss
tate.
Your
reputation
speaks
for
itself,
you're,
a
leader
in
this
community
and
the
people.
M
Natasha,
allison
and
kela
are
all
leaders
in
the
community.
I've
often
said
that
east
tampa
is
the
land
that
time
forgot.
Yes,
because
for
decades
it
was
always
on
the
back
burner
if
it
was
even
on
any
burner,
because
the
rest
of
the
city
was
prospering
while
east
tampa
was
was
staying
behind.
However,
we
have
a
great
council,
member
and
and
council
member
goodes
and
his
predecessor
councilmember
reddick,
which
I
had
the
pleasure
of
working
with
for
four
years
and
everything
that
you've
shown.
M
There's
a
lot
happening
in
these
tampa.
There's
a
lot
of
momentum,
and
this
is
just
the
beginning.
These
projects
are
going
to
trickle
down
into
inspiring
more
to
happen
to
this
community,
where
east
tampa
no
longer
is
that
land
that
time
forgot?
You
know
the
city
limits,
don't
stop
at
the
interstate.
They
go
all
the
way
to
the
end,
and
in
that
there's
prosperity
as
we
lift
the
community
up.
You
talked
about
the.
What
was
it
the
health
fair,
the
first
annual?
M
M
Stuff
like
this
is
what
what
works
and
it's
what
inspires
for
other
programs
and
events
that
take
place
like
this,
so
east
tampa
has
that
that
sense
of
community
and
togetherness,
knowing
that
you
know
we're
in
this
together
and
we're
going
to
all
lift
each
other
up
the
presentation.
You
know
it
spoke
for
itself
because
you
highlighted
so
many
things.
You
know
when
people
say
nothing's
happening
in
east
tampa
you
showed-
and
this
is
just
a
sample
because
there's
a
lot
going
on-
and
these
are
big
things.
M
Council,
member
goods
was
instrumental
and
a
leader
for
the
community
center.
For,
for
you
know
that
was
a
a
huge
win
and
I
can't
wait
for
that
to
come
to
fruition,
but
everything
else,
big
and
small-
that's
happening
there.
It's
the
catalyst,
that's
going
to
move
east
tampa
forward
and
in
ways
that
we
maybe
have
not
seen
in
the
past.
Yes-
and
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
new
day
for
the
community
and
I
think
the
best
is
yet
to
come.
This
is
this
is
we're
at
the
appetizer.
M
We
haven't
gotten
to
the
main
course
and
there's
so
much
good
coming,
so
thank
you
and
everyone
involved
for
their
leadership.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
B
You
have
to
have
people
in
position
who
know
the
subject
matter
and,
as
you
can
see,
we
have
people
now
in
each
champ
on
the
board
that
are
subject
matter,
people
that
know,
and
they
can't
be
bs
anymore.
When
someone
told
tell
them
no,
they
ask
questions.
Why
and
bring
the
facts
of
saying.
Yes,
we
can,
because
there
are
rules
in
place
to
say
we
can
do
this,
not
that
we
can't
do
it.
B
Why
and
why
not
and
we're
moving.
Now,
I'm
thankful
that
we
have
a
board
now
who
understands
because
it
takes
votes,
sometimes
to
get
things
moving,
so
I
thank
them
for
their
leadership
to
understanding
and
me
asking
them
to
go
experience
and
look
and
see
for
themselves
the
different,
different
kid
mason
when
we
got
that
approved,
because
that
place
is
horrible
to
understand
what
is
going
on
and
have
leadership
to
move.
B
You
know
we
we
had
miss
miss
goodly,
we
have
miss
burton
and
we
have
you
miss
fran
that
you
questioned
and
before
we
didn't
have
that
we
just
had
people
to
go
along
get
on
because
they
just
wanted
to
be
on
a
board
and
just
say
I
I'm
serving,
which
is
good
but
to
serve.
You
have
to
serve
with
a
purpose
to
serve
with
a
purpose
and
have
goals
and
achievements
in
mind.
B
B
B
B
G
Much
happier
to
see
you
smiling
this
morning
than
before,
and
thank
you
for
your
leadership.
Thank
you
to
miss
goodly
for
her
leadership,
ms
burton
and
all
your
board
members
also
kela
and
alice,
and
everyone
else
who's
here
today
you
have
the
hunter.
G
Your
east
tampa
your
your
cra
district.
You
have
100
support
on
this
board
and.
C
G
Sorry
that
it
took
so
long
for
us
to
be
able
to
deliver
the
services
we
need,
we
were
all
united
and
trying
to
deliver
it
and
it
it.
Unfortunately,
it
took
three
chairs
and
then
the
unified
voice
of
three
chairs
to
make
a
difference,
but
that
that
voice
was
loud
and
clear
and
and
we're
getting
things
done.
But
please
let
us
know
what
we
need
to
do
to
continue
to
support
you.
It's,
as
my
colleague
said,
this
area
has
been
neglected
for
too
long
there.
G
This
area
has
important
and
rich
history
and
culture,
and
we
need
to
be
supportive
of
the
members
of
the
community
and
in
determining
their
own
destiny
going
forward.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
lot
of
them
are
now
being
looked
at
and
possibly
replicated
in
their
own
way
by
other
cras
in
the
city,
and
you
should
be
incredibly
proud
of
that.
We
don't
talk
about
that
enough,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you
also
for
for
having
we're
having
this
discussion
about
affordable
housing
and
you,
along
with
the
west,
tampa
cra,
have
have
put
money
toward
affordable
housing.
That's
just
something
that
you've
done
as
part
of
what
you
do,
and
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
that.
A
I
And
before
we
move
on
madam
chair,
miss
goodly
has
asked
to
make
comment,
and
I
know
we
don't
typically
have
comments
during
staff
reports,
but
if
you'll
allow,
I
think
she
wanted.
A
E
We
need
to
do
more
to
move
the
community
forward,
but
black
history
has
been
erased
in
east
tampa
and
pretty
much
the
city
of
tampa,
and
so
I
would
really
really
hope
that
not
just
you,
because
you
all
have
said
that
you
support
it,
but
we
could
get
the
support
of
the
city
to
move
things
in
a
better
direction
for
the
black
community.
Our
cemeteries
have
been
built
over
markers,
and
many
of
these
cemeteries
have
been
torn
down.
E
E
We're
required
to
do
some
of
the
most
basic
work
that
typically
comes
from
a
city
anyway
and
when
I
say
most
basic
work
I
mean
we've
leveraged
funds
to
resurface,
streets,
sidewalks
curbs
those
are
things
that
the
city
is
supposed
to
do
not
the
cra.
The
cra
is
to
supplement
and
to
eliminate
slum
and
blight,
but
we
are
instituting
actual
items
from
the
city
and
the
proof
is
in
the
pudding,
because
we
stopped
leveraging
those
funds.
When
I
was
chair
and
once
we
stopped
leveraging
those
funds,
no
streets
have
been
resurfaced.
E
No
sidewalks
have
been
put
down,
no
curbs
have
been
placed,
so
if
we
don't
pay
for
the
upkeep
of
our
community,
it
does
not
happen
and
we
have
the
opportunity
to
finally
do
the
right
thing
and
save
a
part
of
black
history
in
this
city,
and
that
is
with
the
jackson
house.
I've
always
supported
it.
I've
always
been
a
firm
believer
in
it,
but
we
have
to
do
something
because,
as
councilman
matascalco
said
central
park
gone,
you
go
through
our
community
everything's
gone,
we
don't
have
anything.
E
We
have
little
bits
and
pieces
and
that's
like
the
last
piece
that
we
have
and
we
really
need
to
save
it.
We
can't
we
can
do
a
look.
We
can
place
markers
for
the
cemetery,
but
nobody
even
has
really
any
clue
who's
under
that
we
don't
know,
and
every
time
I
see
a
funeral
and
cars
park
there.
It
just
hurts
me
because
how
would
you
feel
if
we
parked
over
your
grandmother's,
grave
or
down
the
road
we
park
over
your
grave
and
we
just
don't
care?
E
E
M
Miss
goodly
just
a
quick
question.
You
mentioned
the
grave
of
mr
middleton.
What's
what
was
the
first
name,
george.
E
M
For
it
I
know
this
is
weird,
but
I'm
good
at
finding
graves
and
I
actually
found
an
unmarked
grave
of
a
historic,
not
a
positive
historical
figure
in
tampa.
But
but
let's
see,
if
there's
a
marker,
you
know
I
don't
know.
Even
if
it's
overgrown
or
it's
sunken
I'll
I'll
look.
You
know
I
mean
it's
of
importance
because
I
know
where
you
live
by
the
cemetery.
The
italian
club
ceremony,
the
armwood
family.
Is
there
and
that's
another
school
blanchard
wood,
that's
with
the
bus
on
the
riverwalk.
M
You
know
we
know
where
she's
at
but
middleton,
which
I
mean
how
many
alum
do
we
have
in
this
community
that
attended
there.
You
know
we
should.
We
should
know
where
the
where
the
gentleman
is
buried
so
I'll
go
out
and
look
for
it.
I
mean,
I
know
you
all
are,
but
if
I
find
it
first
I'll,
let
you
know
thank
you.
Thanks.
G
The
the
the
point
you
mentioned
a
bunch
of
good
points,
but
one
one
was
that
that
should
supplement
city
budget,
not
not
replace
it,
and
I
just
had
that
conversation
with
miss
travis
yesterday
and
I
I'm
assuming
my
colleagues
have
because
we've
heard
it
from
lots
of
people
and
it
is
an
important
thing.
Unfortunately,
the
budgets
allocated
for
roads
are
nothing
throughout
the
whole
city.
G
I
think
the
whole
city
sidewalk
budget,
600
000,
so
we're
hearing
complaints
everywhere
on
that
and
I,
if
all
of
our
transportation
goes
through,
we
need
to
please
make
sure
that
we
sit
down
and
and
make
sure
that
every
part
of
the
city
is
at
least
treated
equally,
but
that
we
that
we,
you
know,
fix
the
the
long
neglect
that
is
in
some
areas.
G
But
the
other
thing
you
mentioned
is
is
black
history
and
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
jackson
house,
which
is
even
one
small
part.
I
could
make
emotion
or
mr
goods
can
make
a
motion,
but
it
would
be
interesting
to
have
you
come
back
or
somebody
come
back
and
and
just
make
some
additional
suggestions
to
either
the
cra
board
or
city
council
board
and
workshop
on
what
else
the
cre
board
or
or
the
city
council
could
do
to
support
black
history.
I
know
there's
an
effort.
Commissioner.
G
There
are
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
different
movements
going
on,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
that
we
capture
the
history
that's
out
there
and
and
just
one
idea
that
didn't
cost
very
much.
I
worked
several
years
ago
with
the
florida
humanities
council.
I
put
together
a
thing
called
the
jose
marti
trail
in
eborg.
G
In
it
we
got
gary
mourmino
historian
on
eborder,
right
it
and
a
and
a
cuban-american
actor
portrays
jose
martin
to
record
it,
and
I
think
it
was
only
five
thousand
dollars,
but
now
anybody
can
come
to
ebor
city
and
get
a
free,
walking
tour
from
the
humanities
council.
That's
among
like
30
of
the
walking
tours
and
they
can
walk
around
listening
to
jose
marti,
tell
the
story
of
the
places
that
that
he
visited
and
worked
in
in
ebore,
and
it's
just
a
small
idea
of
bringing
history
to
life.
But
you
know
we
need
to.
G
A
I
All
right
well
we're
requesting
that
we
hear
items
nine
and
ten
together.
Madam
chair,
both
of
those
are
related
to
soul,
walk
the
item.
Number
nine
is
a
report
from
robin
nye,
but
then
also
there's
a
request
to
report
on
the
feasibility
of
cr's
participation,
and
so
I
think
that
we
can.
We
can
cover
those
collectively
and
then
she'll
provide
that
initial
report
and
we
can
have
discussion.
N
I
P
Good
morning,
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
here-
and
I
am
here
today
to
talk
with
you
about
items
number,
eight
and
nine,
and
even
though
I
know
you
have
seen
some
time
ago,
this
presentation
it
is
updated
and
I've
got
a
little
bit
more
information
about
it.
To
share
with
you
and
explain
about
our
educational
component.
To
it,
soulwalk
is
a
it's
in
development,
it
is
a
will,
be
tampa's,
african-american,
culture
and
heritage
trail.
P
P
We
have
looked
at
a
lot
of
benchmarks
in
terms
of
different
types
of
trails,
the
one
that
we
think
is
really
has
a
lot
to
offer.
There's
two
here
that
I
really
want
to
point
out.
If
you're
interested
in
taking
a
deeper
look
at
one
is
washington,
dc's
african-american
heritage
trail,
which
is
beautifully
done.
It's
themed,
there's
a
wonderful
website
that
goes
to
it.
It's
also
tied
in
with
economic
development,
which
I
think
is
critically
important
to
get
into
the
neighborhoods
and
such,
and
it
is
just
very,
very
thoughtfully
thoughtfully
done.
P
So
we
are
looking
at
a
number
of
processes,
a
number
of
examples
and
so
on,
and
this
is
really
what
we
want
the
program
to
do.
We
want
the
communities
and
we
really
are
trying
to
touch
every
as
many
neighborhoods
as
possible.
P
We
are,
we
want
to
create
a
feeling
of
reconnection,
resiliency
recognition.
I
don't.
I
know
I
don't
need
to
read
this,
but
it's
just
so
important
that
we
move
that
we
do
it
right
that
we
move
through
the
arts
and
that
we
provide
access
for
people
to
connect
some
of
the
recent
activities
that
we've
done.
I
believe,
when
I
reported
to
you
last,
I'm
not
sure
that
we
had
received
word
yet
on
the
nea
grants
that
we
have
applied
for.
We
have
received
both
nea
grants,
which
I'm
very
proud
to
say.
P
One
of
those
is
a
temporary
memorial
at
zion
cemetery,
the
artist
we
have
an
artist
that
has
been
designated.
She
will
be
in
town
in
november
and
meeting
with
the
housing
authority
and
with
the
zion
cemetery
non-profit
board.
So
we
are
very
slowly
making
progress.
Our
objective
there
is
to
at
least
have
some
type
of
a
proposal
or
concept
by
march,
which
marks
the
centennial
of
the
cemetery's
disappearance.
P
We
also
have
a
larger
grant
to
connect,
also
with
the
broader
aspects
of
soulwalk.
We
did
an
open
call
to
artists
so
that
we
have
a
pre-qualified
pool.
We
are
also
very
much
digging
into
and
and
very
conscious
of,
the
city's
dei
initiatives.
So
we
are
very
cognizant
in
reaching
out
to
regional
artists,
particularly
artists
of
color.
It
has
been.
It
has
been
a
slow
process,
as
I
mentioned,
but
it's
been
extremely
rewarding
to
date,
and
I
can
only
hopefully
imagine
that
that
continues.
P
We
will
have
some
periodic
activities
that
will
continue
through
the
years
coming
up,
so
that
one
it
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
engage
the
community
and
to
talk
to
the
public
and
to
see
what
their
thoughts
are
and
where
what
we
can
do
and
how
we
can
bring
some
of
their
visions
and
stories
to
to
life
and
to
keep
it
in
a
for
longevity.
P
So
the
map,
right
now
the
map
is
and
I'll
show
you
where
we
are
in
that
in
a
moment,
it
is
it's
coming
along.
It's
about
a
hundred.
Yes,
this
here
says
130,
but
really
it's
more
like
149,
not
to
be
precise
data
points
right
now
and
all
of
that
that
includes
artwork,
that's
planned
and
what's
existing
out
there.
P
You
can
also
see
the
historically
designated
locations,
historic
markers
and
the
other
sites
of
interest,
which
includes,
of
course,
the
cemeteries
and
museums
and
other
areas
as
well
signature
projects
where
witness
city
were
in
terms
of
art
in
the
public
realm
and
our
the
public
art
component
of
it
is
some
of
those
are
already
underway.
I
mentioned
zion
already,
but
also
hannah
avenue
and
the
underpass
as
well
and
the
convention
center.
P
This
is
the
kind
of
to
give
you
a
sense
of
the
map
how
it's
kind
of
breaking
out:
approximately
is
the
east
and
the
west
side
of
the
river,
so
we're
looking
at
creating
guide
books
so
that
people
can
one
they
will
have
that,
and
we
would
like
to
have
a
good
portion
of
the
first
guidebook
done,
ideally
in
january
of
next
year,
because
in
working
with
visit
tampa
bay,
there
are
quite
a
few
conventions,
african-american
conventions
that
we
would
really
like
to
have
this
material
available
to
them
as
well.
P
So
the
curatorial
approach
this
has
not
changed.
This
is
the
same
image
that
I
presented
a
couple
of
months
ago,
because
it
is
very
important
that
we
listen
before
any
action
that
we
hear
the
type
of
art,
because
it
could
be
something
very,
very
different
and
sometimes
art
making
is
more
community
building
and
it
is
about
connecting
and
hearing
stories.
And-
and
so
we
want
to
be
able
to
pull
that
in
and
to
use
it
and
to
keep
it
and
to
share
it.
Most
importantly,
there
is
again
we're
in
our
outreach
and
engagement.
P
We
are
we
don't
want
it,
we
don't
our
egos.
Aren't
it's
not
one
person,
it's
a
lot
of
us
that
are
pulling
together
with
this,
and
I
have
a
list
of
the
sponsors
momentarily
or
our
partners
at
the
end,
because
hillsborough
county
is
involved,
we
talk
with
everybody,
egos
aren't
at
the
table.
We
all
want
to
do
the
right
thing.
Part
of
it
also
is
that
when
we,
for
instance,
at
hillsborough
county
libraries,
they
have
a
wonderful
oral
history
program.
We
don't
need
to
keep
those
oral
histories.
We
can
take
those
oral
histories.
P
Let
the
library
have
those
oral
histories,
let's
share
and
make
sure
that
these
scholars
at
usf
have
those
and
that
they're
aware
of
it.
So
it
really
is
across
fertilization
and
absolutely
sharing
whatever
we
get.
They
can
have.
I
mean
it's,
it's
not
it's
not
about
power
here,
it's
or
it's
a
different
kind
of
power.
Maybe
I
should
say
it's
about
empowering
the
education
component
is,
is
very,
very
important
and
again
we're
working.
P
A
true
partner
is
the
tampa
bay
history
center
and
with
that,
that
also
opens
up
a
lot
where
we'll
be
applying
for
some.
We
received
a
florida
and
humanities
council
grant
last
time
for
what
we
did
at
perry
harvey
park,
and
we
are
looking
to
duplicate
that
success.
In
addition
to
also
working
with
others,
these
smithsonian,
we
are
hoping
to
bring
them
in
as
a
partner.
They
are
already
partners
with
the
history
center.
P
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
the
director
of
the
smithsonian
kevin
young
is
a
poet,
so
he
certainly
understands
the
spirit
of
the
arts
and
how
that
can
teach
and
inspire
and
connect
with
history.
We
are
in
discussion
with
we're
looking
at
phone
apps
and
that
type
of
thing
tni
has
been
amazing
in
terms
of
building
us
with
the
map
that
we
have
in
those
data
points
bloomberg
we'll
probably
pull
up
with
in
their
app
so
that
it
does.
P
This
will
go
national
and
and
certainly
offer
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
connect
with
it
at
least
now.
One
of
these
also
very
much
it's
grounded
in
economic
development,
where
we
would
really
also
like
to
encourage
the
community
to
do
projects
to
connect
to
it.
This
is
something
that
again,
not
being
not
the
ego
to
drive
it
and
to
own
it,
but
to
connect
it
and
that
it's
everybody's.
P
If
people
want
to
you,
know
old
businesses,
I
mean
historic,
barbecues
or
something
like
that.
They
should
be
included
and
encouraged
to
go
and
experience
that.
So,
if
we
can
help
with
that,
that's
very
much
what
we
want
to
do.
P
We're
also
looking
at
ways
that
we
can
ourselves
spin
off
in
terms
of
our
programming
that
could
include
mentoring
programs
where
are
talking
to
an
artist
with
how
either
she
can
mentor
or
she's
mentored.
So
there's
lots
of
ways
that
we
can
do
that,
because
we
really
want
to
strengthen
you
know.
I
know
you
know
the
expression.
A
rising
tide
floats
all
boats,
and
we
just
very
much
want
to
want
to
do
that
and
make
people
feel
proud
and
happy,
as
you
can
see
here
why
it
is
on
the
moment.
P
It
is
on
the
moment,
and
I
have
to
go
as
and
say.
One
of
my
favorite
quotes
is
martin
luther
king's
quote
here
about
soul
force,
because
it
talks
about
the
spirit,
can
really
push
it
through
and
make
it
happen,
and
that's
so
much
what
this
is
about.
We
are
a
majority
of
people
of
color
city.
We
ought
to
embrace
it
celebrate
it,
enjoy
it
roll
around
in
it
and
be
just
it
just
love
it
because
it
just
makes
us
stronger.
It
makes
us
better.
P
So
we
are
very
much
you
know
connected
and
just
just
really,
as
I
said,
trying
to
do
the
right
thing
in
that
sense,
what
does
success
look
like?
Well,
you
know
people
get
connected
with
the
arts.
There
are
a
lot
of
and
we
have
our
cultural
institutions.
They
are
doing
some
significant
capital
projects
downtown,
but
that's
not
in
our
neighborhoods
and
it
doesn't
get
to
the
people
in
the
neighborhoods.
P
So
why
can't
we
do
some
type
of
creative
and
innovative
programming
that
brings
it
to
them
in
a
way
that
it's
also
part
of
their
home
and
part
of
their
life.
So
we're
figuring
out
and
looking
at
ways
that
we
can
do
that
for
visitors
and
residents
alike
and
of
course
it
is
very,
very
important
that
we
have
an
a
good
dialogue
about
race
where
it's
on
the
moment.
P
This
is
it's
been
great
actually
sitting
in
here
today,
because
the
conversations
every
one
of
them
has
reinforced
what
we're
doing
here,
and
it
gives
me
strength
to
move
forward,
because
sometimes
you
have
those
moments
of
doubt
and
again,
just
to
stress
it's
the
it's
about
the
economy.
It's
about
preserving
our
histories,
it's
dei
recognizing,
where
that
our
strength
is
in
that
inclusion
and
neighborhood
improvements.
P
So
in
summary,
I
I
think
I
pretty
much
have
repeated
myself
a
bit
here,
but
we
really
just
want
to
celebrate
tampa's
story,
particularly
of
its
african-american
community.
To
me,
okay,
is
what
every
city's
story
is
in
the
sense
of
how
it's
you
know,
marginalization
and
erasure,
and
this
is
just
a
very
timely
initiative
and
project
to
do.
Lastly,
I
do
think
and
I'll
show
you
the
list
of
partners
momentarily,
but
I
do
love
quincy
jones
quote.
I
just
have
to
put
that
out
there,
because
you
know
it
is.
P
I
I've
always
thought
that
a
big
laugh
has
a
really
loud
noise
from
the
soul.
Saying
ain't
that
the
truth-
and
I
think
you
know
how
many
times
have
we
all
felt
that
so
with
that.
I
am
here
for
any
ques
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
like
just
a
quick
little
map.
Here
I
mean
of
showing
you
I.
P
This
is
a
broader
view.
It
doesn't
get
into
the
minutia
and
all
the
the
details
of
it,
but
it
does
kind
of
give
you
a
sense
of
the
steps
and
complexity
of
it,
and
I
I
do
think
it's
kind
of
it
is
accurate
to
say
that
at
the
same
time,
you're
doing
steps
three
through
nine.
So
there
is
a
lot
going
on
and
a
lot
of
coordination
because
it
is
connecting
and
making
sure
that
to
include
it.
P
You
need
to
back
up
on
all
those
steps,
and
here
are
our
list
of
our
partners
confirmed
to
date.
So
it
is,
we
are
working
on
building
broad
community
support.
It
has
been
well
received
everywhere
that
I've
brought
it
up.
We
have
a
great
team,
and
I'm
here
for
any
questions.
M
A
M
Much
can
I
go
after
it
thanks,
so
I
serve
on
the
board
with
you,
the
arts
board,
for
the
city
of
tampa,
and
it's
always
a
pleasure.
We
have
wonderful
meetings
and
discussion.
You
do
a
wonderful
job
and
you've
been
involved
for
a
very,
very
long
time.
You
know
history
is
so
important.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
history
today
and
you're
very
specific,
with
the
soul,
walk
and
the
reason
I
say
history
is
important.
M
It's
because
it's
it's
the
character
of
the
city,
the
of
the
community,
not
just
because
I
say
this
often
so
many
new
people
are
moving
to
tampa
and
they
see
tampa
now
and
they
go
wow.
Armature
works
and
the
riverwalk
and
ebore,
but
it
wasn't
always
like
that
things
have
changed
at
the
same
time.
You
know
as
things
change,
you
know,
history
things
get
older,
whatever
things
pass
by,
but
when
we
preserve
our
history
and
the
reason
I
say
this
is
to
those
people
that
are
new
here
and
they
say
wow.
M
The
riverwalk
is
great
and
I
love
downtown
tampa
and
I
love
the
tell
them.
We
have
to
teach
them.
What
was
there
before?
How
tampa
has
changed
and
evolved
take
them
through
all
the
communities
and
teach
them
the
history
and
the
stories
you
know
when
we
look
at
other
cities,
for
example,
rome,
rome
is
the
capital
of
italy
fine.
But
we
talk
about
ancient
rome.
We
talk
about
history
from
2000
years
ago.
Tampa
doesn't
have
the
2000
year
history
well
with
native
american
history
and
whatnot.
M
You
know
the
great
american
city,
but
when
we
have
stuff
like
this,
when
we're
talking
about
the
jackson
house,
when
we're
talking
about
historic
preservation,
cigar
factories,
ibor
city,
we're
teaching,
a
new
generation,
our
story
we're
preserving
the
past
and
all
those
individuals
that
help
build
this
community,
their
legacy
and
their
memory
stays
alive
and
new
generations
learn
and
appreciate
that
and
that's
what's
so
important.
That's
what
makes
you
know
every
city
unique
and
that's
what
will
make
tampa
tampa
is
sure
it's
great
and
we
have
tom
brady
and
we
go
to
the
super
bowl.
M
J
You,
madam,
I
appreciate
that
you
know
I
I
wanted
to
just
share
with
the
public.
You
know
the
kind
of
person
you
are
and
that
may
make
you
uncomfortable
and
I'm
sorry,
but
you
know,
we've
talked
a
lot
about
this
and-
and
this
is
something
you
really
do
from
the
heart
number
one
you're
a
public
servant
and
what
you're
doing
really
is
public
service.
We've
talked
a
lot
about.
This.
We've
met
that
it
really
comes
from
the
heart.
This
isn't
something
that
somebody
put
on
your
desk
and
go
hey.
J
Do
this
and
you're
like
oh
man,
come
on?
No.
This
is
something
that
you
did
because
you've
really
got
a
heart
for
this,
like
you
do
and
I'm
so
glad
you
talked
about
what
the
term
soul
walk
means
which
is
so
talks
about
the
soul,
because
you
know
for
me
it
endeavors
like
this
are
or
they
can
be
interpreted.
Obviously,
it's
a
secular
but
there's
also
a
religious
potential
component,
there's
a
spiritual
component
to
recognizing
history
that
has
been
erased,
recognizing
people
who
have
been
erased,
there's
a
real
spiritual
component.
J
With
that,
I
I
remember
in
the
the
egi
project.
We
worked
on.
We
we
part
of
what
the
equal
justice
initiative
has
folks
do
is
to
take
soil
from
where
lynchings
occurred
and
bring
them
to
to
montgomery
alabama.
There's
something
spiritual
about
the
soil,
there's
something
spiritual
about
forgotten
history,
especially
when
it
causes
pain
in
in
a
lot
of
people.
So
I
think
that's
really
important.
You
know,
in
my
opinion,
we're
we're
really
really
running
behind
in
tampa
on
recognition
of
black
history.
J
We
have
a
lot
of
things
up
about
about
migente
de
los
cuanos
and
that's
great
god
bless
coolenos,
but
we
we
need
a
lot
more
about
black
history
in
tampa.
I
I
I
don't
know
what
the
what
the
percentages
is
with
regards
to
historical
markers,
but
I
bet
you
a
million
bucks,
it's
it's
rather
low.
Whenever
it
comes
to
black
history,
we're
running
behind
in
other
cities,
I
remember
going
to
st
petersburg
and
going
to
the
florida
holocaust
museum,
been
there
three
or
four
times
and
always
encouraged
folks
to
go.
J
So
for
for
me,
this
is
part
of
a
a
number
of
this
is
a
project
that
can
help
connect
everything
that's
happening
in
tampa.
We
look
at
a
lot
of
different
things.
We've
mentioned
councilman
carlson
mentioned
the
the
the
county
and
what
they're
trying
to
do
with
with
with
art
and
with
black
history.
That's
a
really
big
deal.
We
talked
a
lot
about
the
jackson
house.
It
was
mentioned
at
cemeteries.
J
I
always
got
to
give
a
shout
out
to
angela
alderman,
who
did
took
a
very
lonely
ride,
so
to
speak
on
the
college
hill
memorial
marker
did
a
wonderful
job
in
a
lot
of
different
things
that
we're
talking
about,
and
I
think
you
mentioned
as
well
that
this
is
an
issue
which
is
why
I
motioned
to
bring
this
before
the
cra.
This
is
about
economic
development
to
these
areas,
while
we're
not
going
to
be
jackson,
mississippi
or
or
some
alabama
montgomery.
J
We
do
have
a
remarkable
history
that
can
bring
people
in
to
learn
more
about
it,
particularly
in
areas
that
are
under
the
the
the
way
of
the
of
the
cra
and
one
thing-
and
I
know
you
agree
with
this-
which
is
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
history
that
we
tell
here
is
not,
how
can
I
say,
the
disney
version
of
history
history.
A
lot
of
times
is
brutal.
It's
bloody,
it's
graphic,
especially
this
area,
and-
and
it's
really
important
like
I
was
telling
somebody
a
few
days
ago.
J
Six
million
african
americans
fled
the
south
as
refugees
to
go
north
and
they
weren't
just
escaping
insults.
They
were
escaping
brutality,
lynching
and
torture
and
and
tampa
was
part
of
that,
and
we
always
have
to
tell
that
story
so,
but
but
in
ending,
I
really
wanted
to
salute
you
for
the
work
that
you
do
again.
This
isn't
something
that
somebody
put
on
your
desk.
Thank
you.
This
really
comes
from
your
heart
and
it's
really
public
service.
What
you're
doing
and
it's
so
pivotal.
So
thank
you
and
god
bless
you.
Thank
you
robin
thank.
G
Yeah,
just
a
couple
of
history
notes,
following
on
what
my
colleagues
just
said,
I
don't
know
if
my
colleagues
know
this
most
people,
don't
the
first
underground
railroad
in
the
united
states
went
from
the
english
colonies
to
florida
and
then
eventually
from
the
united
states
to
florida,
and
so
it
was
the
opposite.
Instead
of
people
going
north,
they
came
to
florida,
and
that
was
because,
if
they,
if
they
converted
the
catholicism
and
and
served
in
the
spanish
military,
they
could
become
free
and
the
first
colony
of
free
blacks.
G
In
what's
now
the
united
states
is
fort
mosser
and
for
mosc.com
I
encourage
everybody
to
look
up
the
stories
of
what
happened
there
and
it.
You
know
amazing
amazing
story
of
freedom
in
the
united
states
and
because
the
history
books
in
the
united
states
are
written
by
the
english
colonies
florida
gets
left
out
and
to
that
point
board,
member
maniscalco
was
talking
about
our
his
are
the
length
of
our
history
compared
to
other
places.
Well,
the
second.
G
As
far
as
the
history
center
knows,
the
second
black
person
or
african
person
who
set
foot
on
the
united
states
continent
was
in
tampa
bay,
and
we
know
for
sure
that
he
landed
in
saint
pete.
We
don't
know
for
sure
if
he
landed,
if
he
traveled
to
tampa,
we
know
they
were
exploring
around
the
whole
area,
but
the
tampa
bay
history
center
has
a
whole
display
on
his
name,
is
esteban.
G
There's
a
whole
display
there
on
it,
and
I
encourage
everybody
to
read
about
that,
and
so
our
african-american
history
really
goes
back
to
1528.
in
our
our
african-american
history.
Just
like
our
spanish
history,
our
christian
history,
our
jewish
history
or
muslim
history
is
older
than
any
other
place
in
the
united
states,
and
I
think
we
ought
to
make
sure
that
we
celebrate
that
and
and
if
saint
pete
can
show
fred
hearn's
jacket,
we
can
talk
about
esteban
as
we
do
at
the
tampa
history
center.
N
G
I've
said
this
about
the
the
tampa
union
station
as
you
travel
around,
if
you
see
a
building,
if
you
go
into
a
hundred
cathedrals
in
europe-
and
you
don't
know
any
of
the
stories
about
them,
then
then
you
just
see
them
in
their
nice
buildings.
If
you
go
into
years
ago,
I
went
to
the
canterbury
cathedral
and
I
seen
the
movie
beckett
and
and
that
one
meant
more
to
me
because
I'd
seen
the
movie,
if
you
know
the
stories
of
the
jackson
house,
then
it
doesn't
look
like
a
building
falling
apart.
G
It's
a
building
with
history.
If
you
know
that
that
world
war
ii
soldiers
came
in
and
out
of
tampa
union
station
and
some
of
them
didn't
come
back
while
their
families
were
waiting
on
them.
That
changes
the
way
you
think
about
tampa
union
station,
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it,
you
know
what
what
appeals
to
people.
What
people
remember
is
the
stories
of
of
what
happened,
and
there
are
individual
stories
that
are
really
important
for
us
to
tell
and
and
talk
about.
G
The
other
thing
is,
is
that
you
know
there's
there's
a
constant
stress
on
us,
cra
and
city
council
to
spend
money
wisely,
and
you
know
I'm
a
huge
proponent
of
the
arts.
I
wish
we
could
give
you
a
much
bigger
budget.
G
I'm
I'd
be
the
first
one
to
vote
on
that,
but
what
we
need
to
do
is
tie
it
to
neighborhoods
and
quality
of
life
and
to
me
the
most
important
thing
is:
is
kind
of
neighborhood
by
neighborhood
as
you're
building
something
we
shouldn't
just
put
art
in
that
is
nice,
but
something
that
makes
the
community
feel
proud
makes
them
feel
safe
to
walk
their
dogs.
G
Make
them
feel
safe
for
their
kids
to
walk
back
and
forth
to
the
school
school
buses,
and
so
if
we
can
tie
everything
to
that,
there
were
a
lot
of
great
words.
You
had
on
your
on
your
slide
presentation,
but
the
thing
I
would
center
on
is
how
we
making
tampa
more
livable.
How
are
we
improving
quality
life,
and
you
also
mentioned
bloomberg
just
to
let
you
know
of
controversies.
G
I
have
to
answer
questions
about
number
one
is:
is
toilet
tap
number
two
is
bloomberg,
there's
incredible
and
growing
animosity
toward
the
involvement
of
bloomberg
in
the
city
of
tampa.
I
would
be
super
careful
about
how
closely
we
tie
to
that.
If
you
want
support
from
other
parts
of
the
city
besides
east
tampa,
I
wouldn't
I
wouldn't
tie
that
closely
to
it
when
I
did
the
jose
marti
trail
app.
I
partnered
with
the
florida
humanities
council.
G
So
now
it's
on
their
platform,
but
that
platform
is
also
part
of
international
free,
walking,
app
platform
and
they
post
it
in
lots
of
places.
I
would
find
if
you
do
an
audio
tour.
For
example,
I
would
go
to
the
platforms
that
people
use
already
and
if
we
have
other
walking
tours
there,
there
are
apps
and
places
that
people
go
to
learn
about
those.
The
tours
in
ewar
city
now
are
busy
all
the
time.
I
see
people
lining
up
the
the
history
center
there
does
tours.
G
Also
when
you
talk
about
black
history,
please
don't
forget
south
tampa.
There
were,
I
think,
three
black
churches.
At
one
point
the
the
longshoremen
were
there.
There
was
a
thriving
african-american
community,
it's
mostly
been
gentrified
out
right
now,
but
the
the
port
tampa
ame
church
is
trying
to
hang
on
and
it's
got
an
incredible
history,
including
with
frederick
douglass,
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
we
remember
that.
G
Lastly,
the
most
people
don't
know
that
there
was
black
history
in
south
tampa,
but
there
there
is
and
there-
and
there
was
last
thing
you
had
a
couple
artists.
I
don't
know
it's
possible
to
pull
up
the
slides
again
but
derek.
I
don't
know
how
to
pronounce
his
name.
G
Have
we
bought
any
of
his
art?
No
not
yet.
I
met
him
in
brooklyn
three
or
four
years
ago,
he's
a
phenomenal
artist,
and
now
I'm
friends
with
him
online
and
talk
to
him
every
now
and
then
and
he
just
won
another
national
award,
he's
getting
all
kinds
of
incredible
recognition.
G
He
I
met
him
because,
as
as
we
think
about
affordable
housing,
he
and
and
he
was
from
memphis,
but
in
harlem
they
had
just
built
a
an
affordable
housing
center
that
was
designed
by
the
same
architect
as
the
guy
who
designed
the
african-american
museum
in
washington
dc.
But
at
the
bottom
the
whole
bottom
level
was
dedicated,
the
arts.
G
They
had
a
library,
they
had
a
reading
room
where
people
would
read
to
kids
every
day
and
they
had
an
artist
in
residence
and
not
only
was
he
growing
in
his
stature
as
an
artist,
but
he
was
an
artist
teaching
kids
who
lived
in
affordable
housing.
That
was
very
well
designed,
but
he
was
they.
They
dedicated
resources
toward
the
arts
and
they
know
that
that
that
helps
kids
find
new
and
innovative
careers,
and
so
one
I
would
want
to
make
sure
that
we
should
include
the
arts
and
all
the
affordable
housing
stuff.
G
P
G
That's
what
I
thought:
okay,
so
dean!
You
all
know,
I'm
a
huge
advocate
of
dean,
mitchell,
phenomenal
internationally
known
artist
and
he's
the
one
that
painted
the
the
jackson
house
painting
I
have,
but
he
I
I
just
had.
I
just
met
with
he
and
his
family.
The
other
day.
G
Did
you
all
know
that
about
10
or
15
years
ago
there
was
a
louis
armstrong
stamp
in
the
united
states
and
and
ten
other
stamps
and
dean
mitchell
designed
those
and
and
when
he
went
to
the
ceremony
of
it,
billy
d
williams
was
the
one
that
got
to
introduce
him,
but
he's
you
know
this
internationally
known
artist,
that
almost
nobody
in
the
arts
community
knows
here
and
he's
finally
getting
some
recognition
in
this
area.
But
what
a?
What
an
amazing
resource
that
we
can,
that
we
can
draw
in.
G
Yeah
he
would,
but
I
mean
this
is
a
guy
who's.
You
know
he
was
runner-up
for
the
barack
obama
portrait
he's
he's
friends
with
you
know
a
lot
of
black
celebrities
nationally
internationally,
but
he's
a
really
incredibly
known
artist,
and
we
also
have
jala
ford
and
anika
and
a
few
others
that
are
gaining
in
prominence,
and
you
know
we
support
these
artists,
we're
lucky
to
have
them
in
our
community
and
and
we
should
make
sure
we
celebrate
them
and
work
with
them
to
inspire
other
kids
to
get
involved
in
the
arts.
A
Okay,
well,
do
we
have
a
thank
you
so
much.
This
is
a
wonderful
report
and
I
know
it's
going
along
with
the
cra
feasibility
to
partner
up.
I
All
right
so,
as
as
you've
heard
on
you
know
the
presentation
from
robin
and
so
walk.
Are
there
any
components
of
that
project
that
the
that
the
board
would
like
to
partner
on,
and
if
there
are
any
we'll
take
that
direction
now
and
we
can.
We
can
evaluate
that
to
see
what
that
would
look
like.
J
You,
madam
chair,
you
know
and
that's
the
reason
I
brought
this
is
I
mean
if
it's
something
the
city
wants
to
take
up
a
hundred
percent
and
is
going
to
do
a
robust
job
on
it
great,
but
if
it's
something
that
needs
additional
funding
etc
from,
I,
I
think
it's
something
that
we
should
have
on
our
jurisdiction.
So
to
speak,
just
to
oversight,
not
oversight
oversea,
I
should
say
in
the
event,
that's
necessary.
So
how
about
we?
J
Do
this
board
I'll
make
a
motion
for
this
to
return
to
us
in
six
months
to
see
where
we're
at
on
it
and
to
see
if,
if
cra
involvement
would
be
necessary,
because
again,
this
is
going
to
predominantly
councilman
carlson.
J
Was
writing
a
lot
of
on
south
tampa
and
there's
other
areas,
but
it's
going
to
have
a
real
big
effect
on
a
lot
of
cra
areas,
so
at
least
just
so
that
we
can
be
advised
of
it
to
the
extent
that
we
need
to
be
involved,
because
you
never
know
all
right
so
in
six
months,
which
would
be
what.
A
Okay,
so
I
have
a
motion
by
board
member
vieira
and
seconded
by
board
member
meniscalco
all
in
favor,
hi,
okay,
well,
12
15
is
a
great
time
to
break
so
I
think
we're
going
to
break
until
1
30,
so
we
can
get
through
the
rest
of
this
agenda.
Yes,
ma'am.
Thank
you.