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At
this
time,
the
tuesday
april
26
year
of
2022
meeting
of
the
citizen
review
board,
is
now
called
to
order.
If
you
will
please
rise
for
the
pledge
of
allegiance
and
remain
standing
for
a
brief
moment
of
silence
and
commemoration
of
the
recent
passing
of
our
colleague
passing
clerk,
miss
debbie
mercer.
May
god
rest
for
so.
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A
Let
the
records
show
that
all
members
of
the
citizen
review
board
are
present,
with
the
exception
of
miss
irene
guy,
our
vice
chair,
mr
reyes
and
dr
carolyn
collins.
At
this
time.
I
would
ask
mr
valdez
to
sit
in
as
acting
vice
chair
for
the
absence
of
mr
reyes,
and
if
you
will
please
continue
with
the
meeting
guidelines.
Thank.
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D
Review
board
are
closed
internal
affairs
cases
that
have
been
investigated
and
brought
to
the
police
chief
for
disposition.
It
is
a
citizens,
review
board's
job
to
review
the
cases
and
render
an
opinion
as
to
whether
the
investigation
was
done.
According
to
the
department
policies
and
procedures,
the
citizens
review
board
members
are
provided
the
investigative
files
in
advance
of
the
meeting.
The
citizen
review
board
will
hear
from
the
department
whenever
matters
of
interest
or
importance
are
requested
for
review
by
the
board
or
the
department,
as
will
be
further
discussed
by
the
chair.
D
Members
of
the
public
will
have
an
opportunity
to
address
the
citizens
review
board
during
the
public
comment
portion
of
the
meeting.
The
coordinator
for
the
board
is
captain
patrick
mesmer.
Any
person
who
wishes
to
make
a
complaint
concerning
a
matter
which
may
be
considered
by
the
professional
standards
bureau
should
see
the
captain
for
information
on
how
to
file
a
complaint.
The
child,
the
chair
is
responsible
for
maintaining
an
appropriate,
business-like
deformed
during
the
meeting.
The
board
should
not
discuss
matters
where
the
city
or
the
department
may
likely
be
a
party
to
litigation.
D
A
A
I
will
now
ask
whether
there
were
any
recorded
comments
received
through
the
voicemail
set
up
for
this
meeting.
B
C
Mr
chair
kamaria
pettis
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
since
there
were
no
comments
this
evening.
There
should
be
no
responses
for
that
item.
We
can.
Accordingly,
we
can
move
on
to
the
item
on
the
agenda
to
be
reviewed.
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A
We'll
continue
with
item
number
seven
items
to
be
reviewed
tonight
we
will
be
reviewing
case
number
17r-001.
F
Good
evening,
captain
patrick
messmer,
a
professional
standards
bureau,
so
the
case
that
was
selected
to
be
reviewed
this
month.
This
was
a
officer
involved,
shooting
case
that
occurred
back
in
2017
and
again
the
reason
that
we're
looking
at
a
2017
case
is
we
do
based
on
the
the
the
rules.
F
This
the
board
does
not
review
anything
where
the
city
could
potentially
be
party
to
litigation.
There
was
a
four-year
statute
of
limitations
in
an
incident
like
this,
where
the
individual
shot
survived.
So
since
that
statute
of
limitations
period
has
now
expired.
That
case
was
now
available
for
board
review,
so
this
specific
case
involved
a
canine
officer.
F
This
was
a
case
that
was
required
by
policy.
There
wasn't
an
actual
allegation
of
any
kind
of
misconduct.
Any
time
an
officer
discharges
their
firearm.
In
the
line
of
duty,
we
are
required
to
conduct
a
internal
affairs
investigation
and,
regarding
the
circumstances
of
that
use
of
force,
in
addition
to
that,
there's
also
a
review
done
by
the
state
attorney's
office
as
to
the
legal
justification
of
the
use
of
force.
F
So
when,
currently,
when
an
officer
discharges
their
firearm
in
the
line
of
duty
and
shoots
somebody
or
intends
to
shoot
somebody,
the
florida
department
of
law
enforcement
will
handle
the
criminal
investigation
and
the
tampa
police
department.
Internal
affairs
unit
will
handle
that
internal
investigation
back
in
2017,
and
I'm
just
going
over
this
because
you
were
provided
a
lot
of
documentation
about
this
case.
You
probably
noticed
that
it
was
actually
our
homicide
unit
that
did
the
criminal
investigative
part
of
it,
and
the
internal
affairs
unit
also
did
the
administrative
part.
F
So
that's
why
there
was
that
difference,
because
in
2017
we
did
not
have
fdle
investigate
our
shootings.
We
didn't
move
on
to
that
for
several
years
after
that.
So
that's
why
our
homicide
unit
was
involved
in
the
industrial
background
of
the
case.
You'll
also
notice
that
the
officer's
name
has
been
redacted.
F
The
case
was
written
as
an
aggravated
battery
on
law
enforcement
officers,
so
the
officer
was
the
victim,
so
under
marsy's
law
the
officer's
name
has
been
redacted.
There
is
another.
The
public
has
has
wavered
in
their
opinion
of
whether
or
not
we
should
be
redacting
names
of
our
officers
involved
in
shootings,
and
that's
been
a
decision
by
the
third
district
court
of
appeals
in
florida
that
law
enforcement
officers
are
subject
to
marsy's
law.
So
I
know
that
is
a
case.
F
That's
going
to
be
pending
in
front
of
the
supreme
court
relatively
soon,
so
there'll
be
a
final
answer
on
whether
or
not
that
practice
is
going
to
continue.
But
that's
just
an
explanation
of
why
the
redaction
occurred.
So
the
captain
who
wrote
the
disposition
letter
in
this
case
has
retired.
So
I'm
going
to
present
this
one,
I'm
just
going
to
go
over
some.
Some
brief
synopsis
of
the
case.
So
we
had
a
officer
responded
with
with
several
different
officers
to
1022
east
25th
avenue
in
reference
to
a
burglary
in
progress.
F
There
was
a
suspect
who
was
still
inside
and
officers
entered
the
residence
by
using
a
ram
to
breach
the
door.
The
known
suspect
was
seen
inside
with
a
knife
in
his
hand,
the
suspect
fled
into
the
resident
of
the
back
of
the
residence
when
he
was
ordered
to
drop
the
knife.
The
officer
with
the
canine
entered
and
confronted
the
suspect
in
the
garage
and
then
the
the
suspect
was
able
to
ignite
an
accelerant
which
turned
out
to
be
primer
and
through
that
accelerant
flaming
accelerant,
at
both
the
officer
and
the
canine.
F
It
was
basically
a
fireball
which
landed
on
the
dog
and
also
landed
on
the
officer,
the
officer
being
in
fear
for
his
life,
drew
his
service
pistol
and
fired
several
times
at
the
suspect
and
the
suspect
went
to
the
ground
where
he
was
taken
into
custody.
He
was
transported
to
tampa
general
hospital
where
he
received
medical
treatment
for
non-life-threatening
injuries
and
the
suspect
later
pled
guilty
to
the
charges
and
was
sentenced
to
florida.
State
prison,
followed
by
probation.
F
The
state
attorney's
office
sent
investigators
out
to
the
scene
as
well,
and
they
reviewed
the
circumstances
of
the
case.
They
reconstructed
the
incident
themselves
and
their
review
felt
that
the
officer
was
justified
pursuant
to
florida
statutes
and
his
use
of
deadly
force,
and
they
recommended
no
charges
being
filed
against
the
officer.
F
In
addition
to
that,
our
captain,
when
we
reviewed
the
internal
affairs
portion
of
the
investigation,
the
documents
interviews
and
photographs
related
the
case
were
all
reviewed
along
with
the
policy
on
deadly
force
and
the
captain
found
and
the
the
chief
and
the
executive
staff
concurred
that
there
was
no
violation
of
department
policy
and
that
case
was
closed
as
a
no
violation,
because
there
was
a
required
by
policy
case.
It
wasn't
an
actual
allegation.
So
it's
not
a
good
you're
not
going
to
see
the
sustained,
not
sustained.
Nobody
made
the
allegations.
F
So
that's
why
the
no
violation
finding
was
held.
G
Captain
I
I
just
want
any
citizens
who
are
listening
in
on
this
to
have
a
better
understanding
the
context
of
this
case
that
this
was
not
a
case
of
three
to
four
to
five
police
officers,
simply
battering
their
way
into
a
into
a
home,
with
guns
blazing
without
without
knowing.
G
If
I
understand
the
facts
of
this
case,
that
the
officers
who
first
arrived
on
the
scene
recognized
the
vehicle
that
was
parked
outside
of
that
home.
As
the
vehicle
of
someone
who
had
several
felony.
G
They
had
actually
been
investigating
this
person
for
the
previous
week
to
months
beforehand,
so
they
knew
what
they
were
dealing
with
and
they
potentially
armed
felon
with
warrants
out
for
his
arrest
is
that
is
that
correct,
correct.
F
F
He
fled
at
that
time
and
we
were
unable
to
to
catch
him,
so
the
officers
knew
who
he
was
and
they
knew
who
is
what
his
vehicle
looked
like
and
in
this
case,
when
the
the
neighbor
called
9-1-1,
because
the
neighbor
knew
that
that
the
house
next
door
was
vacant
because
we
had
an
out-of-state
owner
who
was
renovating
the
house
when
the
officers
showed
up
there,
they
immediately
saw
that
vehicle
and
they
noticed
that
that
was
his
vehicle.
G
F
G
F
Unoccupied
and
they
went
to
pretty
great
lengths
to
confirm
that,
with
the
911
callers
with
the
neighbor,
I
believe
they
even
looked
at
the
property
appraiser's
website
too.
Okay,.
F
It
was,
I
believe
it
was
breached
by.
I
don't
know
if
it
was
him
specifically,
but
officers
did
try
to
get
into
the
front
door
initially
and
what
they
found
out
later
is
that
the
the
suspect
had
moved
a
large
piece
of
a
large
appliance
in
front
of
the
door
and
that's
why
additional
officers
had
to
come.
One
of
them
had
a
a
ram
right
and
that's.
G
How
this
is
just
reading
through
the
through
the
supplement
where
the
officer
who
was
attacked
in
his
in
his
testimony
indicated
I
was
unsuccessful,
so
they
had
gotten
approval.
They
had
gone
up
the
chain
of
command
to
get
approval,
to
breach
that
front
door,
and
then
he
he
attempted
I
was
unsuccessful
at
breaching
the
door,
and
then
he
asked
officer
perez
to
show
up
with
his
ram
and
then
he
went
ahead
and
breached
the
door
with
that
battery
ram.
F
F
F
G
Would
we
want
to
rethink
that
in
a
case
where
we
know
that
there
is
a
known
felon
with
with
a
arrest
warrants
out
for
him
that
he
is
very
likely?
The
only
person
in
that
house
would
we
want
to
give
him
notice
in
advance
that
we're
about
to
go
in,
I
mean,
wouldn't,
wouldn't
we
want
to
go
in
a
little
bit?
You
know
the
first
sound
that
he
hears
is
the
door
being
battered
without
knowing
in
advance
that
police
officers
are
about
to
enter.
F
Well,
there
is
notice
given
before
I
don't.
I
guess
I
don't
under
understand.
Specifically
your
question.
We
don't
say
we're
breaching
the
door,
no,
no,
no,
but
we
do
make
announcements.
There's
no
there's!
No,
no
knock!
Nothing
like
that.
We
don't
operate
that
way.
So
there
are
announcements,
tampa
police,
tampa
police,
tampa
police
come
to
the
door
open
the
door
before
we
force
entry
to
anything,
but
we
don't
specifically
say
if
you
don't
come
to
the
door
in
20
seconds,
we're
going
to
break
the
door
now
that
that
type
of
thing.
G
F
Normally,
yes,
I
think
legally,
it's
it's
definitely
on
the
in
our
best
interest
to
to
make
announcements
and
announce
our
presence.
Just
so.
Anybody
inside
does
know
that
it's
the
police
who
are
there,
it's
not
somebody
else,
and
you
know
in
hindsight
it's
very
clear
that
you
know
he
was
committing
a
burglary.
There
really
was
no
reason
for
him
to
be
in
that
house,
and
you
know
he
attacked
the
the
officers
he
attacked
the
k9
as
well,
but
you
know
we
have.
F
We
have
seen
instances
in
the
past
where
you
do
have
a
person
who
calls
9-1-1
because
someone's
breaking
into
a
house
next
door,
and
we
come
to
find
out
that
it's
really
not
somebody
breaking
in
it's
somebody
with
permission
so
with
trying
to
go
and
and
breach
doors
or
anything
without
making
any
kind
of
an
announcement.
It's
just
from
the
liability
point
of
view.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
person
inside,
even
if
they're,
not
supposed
to
be
there,
they
know
it's
the
police.
F
F
So
very
rarely
will
we
will
we
not
make
an
announcement
in
a
case
like
this,
we're
always
going
to
and
we're
going
to
be
be
breaching
a
door,
but
for
some
some
instances
where,
like
when
our
canines
are
out
in
the
field
searching
for
somebody
if
they
know
that
the
person
is
armed
and
that
person
has
already
fled
from
the
police
once
sometimes
they
won't
make
an
announcement
in
that
case,
but
that
that's
that's
very
rare.
G
I
just
I
just
want
the
record
to
show
the
extent
to
which
the
police
department,
in
this
particular
case,
went
to
in
announcing
who
they
were
and
and
what
their
intentions
were
coming
into.
The
home.
G
Thank
you
great
great
question,
but
but
but
in
the
in
this
case,
the
the
officers
were
rather
certain
that
the
person
in
that
home
was
mr
kennedy
from
the
description
of
the
of
the
of
the
witness
who
made
the
initial
911
call
and
was
waiting
for
for
the
police,
the
the
the
registration
of
the
vehicle
that
it
was.
This
person
who
was
in
the
home,
correct
I
I
would
tend
to
give
that
person
very
little
notice
that
I
was
coming
in.
That's.
But
that's
just
me.
D
F
I
believe
it
was.
I
don't
have
the
entire
report
in
front
of
me,
but
there
there
was
a
very,
very
large
amount
of
evidence
collected.
So
I
know
there
were
some
some
photographs,
I'm
fairly
certain,
that
it
was.
F
The
release
of
the
canine
would
have
been
authorized,
regardless
of
the
knife.
The
you
have,
the
the
known
individual,
who
has
multiple
felony
warrants,
who
is
not
complying.
You
have
somebody
who's,
also
committing
another
felony
by
burglarizing
that
house.
So,
under
our
policies
with
probable
cause
of
a
felony,
we
would
have
been
authorized
to
release
the
canine,
regardless,
especially
if
he
barricaded
the
door
and
then,
when
officers
confronted
him,
he
ran
into
a
different
part
of
the
house.
F
A
And
to
your
knowledge,
is
there
any
dialogue
in
reference
to
the
future
with
equipping
our
k-9
units
with
body-worn
cameras.
B
F
A
F
F
F
I
don't
know,
there's
any
way
that
we
could
make
sure
that
it
would
always
stay
in
the
proper
view,
and
you
know
the
dog,
especially
they
do
have
vests.
They
do
have
ballistic
vests,
so
you
potentially
could
put
one
on
that,
but
it
would
probably
fall
over.
I'm
not
aware
of
any
agencies
that
have
even
explored
the
possibility.
I
know
I've
had
many
meetings
with
axon
who's,
our
body,
more
camera
provider.
D
The
fact
how
the
investigation
ran
smoothly
and
how
all
departments
work
together
from
the
state
attorney
to
internal
affairs,
so
really
appreciate
the
work
that
everybody
put
into
reviewing
this
case
and
more
so.
It
reminds
us
of
the
duty
that
the
officers
face
on
a
day-to-day
basis
and
how
critical
and
how
you
know
it
could
go
from
one
minute
to
another.
Real,
quick
and
you
know
out
of
field
and
we're
faced
with
a
catastrophe
with
our
officers,
so
appreciate
the
work
put
into
into
this
case.
C
Kamari
had
pettis
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
so,
as
captain
mesmer
stated
for
this
particular
investigation,
no
violation
was
found.
So
if
the
board
is
inclined
to
make
a
motion,
you
can
make
a
motion.
I
mean
just
as
any
other
case.
You
can
make
a.
I
mean,
there's
no
discipline
involved
whatsoever,
so
you
can
make
a
motion
to
concur
or
not
concur
or
unable
to
reach
a
decision
about
whether
or
not
no
violation
was
found.
But
that's
up
to
the
pleasure
of
the
board.
E
B
B
A
G
F
Was
sentenced
to,
I
want
to
say
it
was
either
three
to
five
years
florida
state
prison
with
pretty
significant
probation.
After
that,
I
believe
he
just
just
recently
got
out
of
prison
right.
A
C
Board
members,
just
for
the
agenda
purposes,
there's
nothing,
there's
no
additional
topic
to
discuss
under
the
community
in
tampa
one.
Okay,
sorry.
F
Just
real
quick,
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
an
email
that
I
sent
to
the
board.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
you
saw
it
chief
o'connor
wanted
me
to
pass
along
our
event
that
we're
doing
on
saturday
with
rise
up
for
peace,
the
family
fun
day,
it's
going
to
be
at
al
barnes
park
over
on
32nd
street
from
noon
to
5.
If
any
of
the
crb
members
would
like
to
come,
the
command
staff
should
be
out
there
for
most
of
the
time,
so
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
invitation
was
extended.
F
A
You
yes,
and
for
our
viewers
at
home
as
well,
to
be
a
great
opportunity
to
engage
with
our
law
enforcement
as
a
family,
fun
event
as
we
head
into
the
summer.
So
I
definitely
encourage
our
viewers
at
home
to
participate.
F
Again,
captain
messmer
with
professional
standards,
so
one
of
the
items
in
the
ordinance
was
to
discuss
with
the
board
and
to
review
any
changes
to
specific
policies.
We
made
some
some
minor
changes
to
our
body-worn
camera
policy.
You
know
we
started
this
process
several
years
ago
and
over
that
time,
we've
we've
learned
some
things.
F
Some
new
features
have
come
online
from
the
company,
so
we
have
tweaked
our
policy
a
little
bit
to
make
things
a
little
bit
more
friendly
and
to
ensure
that
we
don't
have
video
that
potentially
could
not
be
captured.
So
to
really
sum
up
the
changes
we
in
the
past,
you
could
do
one
of
two
things
your
camera
could
be
on
and
recording
or
your
camera
could
be
powered
off.
It
would
and
think
of
them
like
a
cellular
telephone.
F
You
know
you
can
you
can
if
you
power
your
phone
off,
you
have
to
power
it
back
on.
It
has
to
go
up
through
a
boot
process
which
can
take
take
some
time
to
do
so.
What
we
ended
up
doing
is
there's
a
there
was
a
new
feature
called
sleep
which
would
be
the
same
again.
If
you
have
your
cell
phone
and
it's
it's
on
and
and
then
you
decide,
you
just
want
to
press
the
button,
so
the
screen
goes
dark,
that's
basically
what
it
is
on
the
bodyboard
camera.
F
It's
a
it's
a
feature
to
where
the
officer
can
still
press
the
button,
and
it
will
almost
immediately
start
recording
again,
but
it
doesn't
have
to
go
through
the
whole
power
up
process
and
the
issue
with
that
was
we
don't
want
video,
potentially
not
to
be
captured
if
an
officer
has
to
power
down
their
camera
and
reasons
why
an
officer
will
power
down
their
camera
if
they're
in
the
bathroom,
because
we
do
have
these
sensors
on
the
holsters,
we
have
you
know
the
taser
sensors
as
well,
so
we
we've
had
situations
and
the
body-worn
camera
units
had
to
delete
them
where
officers
have
been
in
the
bathroom
and
their
body.
F
If
a
police
car
with
its
lights
and
sirens
goes
down
30th
street,
all
the
body,
more
cameras
in
the
building
would
turn
on
because
of
the
bluetooth
feature
that
turns
the
camera
on
when
the
lights
go
on,
so
that
that
was
a
real
concern
with
officers
in
the
bathroom
or
in
other
situations,
where
everything's,
private
and
there's
no
interaction
with
the
public
they're
not
engaged
in
any
police
function,
they're
on
break
or
they're
in
the
locker
room
or
they're
working
out
or
something.
F
Up
so
by
activating
sleep
mode,
we've
we've
taken
that
problem
potential
problem
away,
so
we're
not
going
to
have
a
delay
more
than
you
know,
one
or
two
seconds
in
video
starting.
So
that's
a
that's
a
positive
thing.
The
officers
were
happy
about
that
because
of
the
we
initially
were
going
to
not
allow
them
to
power
it
down
at
all.
That
brought
up
a
lot
of
issues
with
what
do
you?
What
do
you
do
if
you're
in
the
bathroom
and
somebody
could
activate
your
camera?
F
So
that's
one
feature
that
that
I
think
is
is
beneficial.
The
other
one
is
another
new
feature
called
mute
mode,
so
there
are
instances
where
we're
having
tactical
briefings
or
otherwise
sensitive
briefings,
supervisory
conversations.
F
Somebody
could
accuse
the
officer
of
of
doing
something
while
the
camera
was
off
well
now
we're
at
least
capturing
the
video.
So
nobody
can
say
well
the
officer
used
force
and
they
turned
their
camera
off
before
they
used
force.
They
really
weren't
having
a
conversation.
So
it's
a
way
for
us
still
to
record
and
and
know
that
we're
recording
the
video,
but
that
confidential
discussion
that's
occurring.
F
That
would
be
exempt
that
we
we
don't
necessarily
need
to
capture
on
on
body
more
camera
that
that
itself,
the
audio
would
not
be
captured.
So
those
are
those
are
really
the
only
significant
changes
to
the
policy.
F
The
camera
has
to
be
recording
during
any
law
enforcement
contact
with
with
citizens
they
don't,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
recording
on
like
they're
standing
on
the
parade
route
of
gasparilla
all
day.
It
doesn't
have
to
record
all
day
long,
but
you
know
if
they
decide
to
take
police
action,
they
have
to
put
turn
their
camera
on
and
start
recording
that
encounter,
so
really
no
no
changes
to
what
we
have
to
what
we're
required
to
record
and
what's
exempt
from
being
recorded.
F
F
Correct
there's
three:
let
me
find
it
here:
there
are
three
areas
where
mute
mode
is
allowed,
and
these
were
also
areas
where
previously
we've
been
allowed
to
completely
power.
The
camera
down,
where
the
officer
reasonably
believes
doing
so
will
not
result
in
the
loss
of
critical
documentary.
Information
reasonably
believes
it's
necessary
to
protect
tactical
or
confidential
discussions
or
briefings
or
is
directed
to
do
so
by
a
supervisor.
E
B
E
It's
this
was
both
of
them
was
both
for
community
education,
so
they
would
know
because
if
somebody
said
oh
now,
they
can
put
it
on
mute
and
just
have
it
record
it.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they
knew
that
it
still
was
restricted,
even
if
it
was,
and
you
said
that
with
your
first
indicator-
and
I
can't
remember
the
other
one.
A
Well,
I
definitely
applaud
the
the
sleep
mode
animation.
It's
good
to
hear
that
we're
still
making
improvements
with
our
bwc's
to
support
investigation,
so
we're
making
improvements
in
that
field
and
I'm
sure
we'll
make
continue
to
make
improvements
as
technology
improves
itself
any
any
other
questions
or
comments
for
captain
mesmer.
In
reference
to
the
vwc's,
the
representative
sop
609.9.
A
Mr
mario,
if
you
will,
I
understand
under
bullet
point
too,
there
have
been
proposal
and
reference
to
our
community
meetings,
which
falls
under
our
new
ordinance.
If
you
will,
can
you
share
those
locations
with
us?
Please.
C
Yes,
kamaria
pettis
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
I
reached
out
to
the
each
legislative
aide
for
each
aid
council
members
aid
for
the
single
member
districts
to
ask
for
proposed
locations
for
our
community-wide
meetings
in
those
single
number
single-member
districts
and
they
provided
the
proposed
locations
that
are
listed
on
the
agenda.
C
With
the
exception
of
chair
maniscalco,
he
provided
two
locations
and,
as
we
see
councilman
guz
old
city
hall,
this
location,
this
building
is
within
his
district.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
need
to
look
at
any
other
locations
within
district
five
for
that
that
area.
So
I
provided
these
locations
on
the
agenda
so
that
the
board
members
can
make
a
motion
to
hold
their
community.
Your
community
wide
meetings
at
those
locations
upon
approval
of
those
locations.
I
will
work
with
the
council
members
aides
to
actually
schedule
those
meetings.
C
B
C
E
I
am
very
very
close
to
mcfarland
park
at
the
dave,
boxter
senior
citizen
center
and
and
the
I'm
I
know
way
wellsworth.
So
I'm
pretty
close
to
wellsworth,
but
I
I
don't
know
the
size
of
wellsworth,
but
I
would
feel
comfortable
in
mcfarland
park
because
it's
auditorium
style.
So
it's
large
enough
to
be
adequate
enough
to
allow
the
space
that
we
need
and
then
at
the
same
time,
I'm
not
too
going
to
be
encouraged
to
go
out
to
the
foot.
Well,.
A
The
chair
is
open
to
the
locations
that
we
we
have
established
in
on
item
2
and
in
district
6,
as
dr
carolyn
collins
just
presented
that
mcfarland
park,
according
to
her
opinion,
would
be
a
better
facility
and
there
was
a
ore
there.
So
that
seems
to
be
a
rational
choice,
but
now
she's
familiar
with
that
particular
location.
D
I
would
agree
with
my
two
colleagues
first
with
the
mclaren
park.
I
think
we'll
give
a
better
suit
for
the
meeting
and
also,
mr
irving.
I
agree
that
you
know
we
already
do
these
meetings
here
at
all
city.
Also,
we
should
look
at
you
know
going
out
to
the
community
where
our
residents
are.
Rather,
you
know
having
to
travel
parking
and
paying
for
parking
and
whatnot.
D
C
If
we
could
first
address
the
three
other
locations
that
I've
already
provided,
I
still
want
to
make
sure
I
follow
up
with
council.
Excuse
me
with
councilman
goodes
regarding
any
other
proposed
locations.
If
that's
what
he
would
like.
G
C
A
So
the
chair
is
open
to
a
motion
to
approve
the
specified
three
locations,
with
the
exception
of
district
five.
B
Thank
you
for
recognizing
me,
mr
chair.
I
spoke
with
councilman
goodes
he's
okay
with
hillsboro
high
school.
If
we
can
substitute
that.
A
Well
again,
I'd
like
to
give
ms
kamaria
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
goose
and.
B
C
Hillsborough
high
school,
okay,
I
will
follow
up
with
mr
goose
come.
A
E
E
And
if
you
would
ask
councilman-
and
if
it's
okay
with
you
in
that
in
that
particular
community
red
cross
from
kind
of
hillsboro
high
school,
is
that
library
and
they
have
a
very
large
room
and
the
parking
is
extremely
adequate
going
to
the
campus
on
school.
Then
you
got
to
make
sure
you
somewhere,
where
you
could
park
and
then
get
people
to
walk.
There
have
been
a
number
of
meetings
there
in
his
district.
That's
at
the
library
on
central
and
the
name
is
losing
me,
not
the
one
on
nebraska,
but
the
one.
B
B
If
libraries
are
a
approved
meeting
site
by
the
city,
so.
A
Again,
miss
paris
mackel,
will
open
up
dialogue
with
councilman
and
get
back
with
the
board
on
the
two
locations
that
was
specified
tonight.
E
B
A
So
the
chair
again
is
open
to
hold
our
community-wide
meeting
at
the
disclosed
locations.
If
boardman
wants
to
make
a
motion.
C
C
A
So
reverend
banks
has
made
the
motion
to
hold
our
community-wide
meeting
at
the
disclosed
locations,
including
district
six
epic
falling
park,
with
the
exception
of
district
five
to
be
to
be
announced.
C
A
Currently,
under
a
crb
staff
reports
and
business
assume
that
we're
all
aware
that
our
past
clerk
is
debbie,
mercer
has
passed.
I
wanted
to
open
up
the
floor
if
there
were
any
ideas
or
in
reference
to
acknowledging
the
passing
of
miss
debbie
mercer,
please
feel
free
to
to
engage
in
dialogue
at
this
time.
E
I
just
want
to
make
this
public
comment
and
hope
that
the
public
kid,
mrs
mercer,
has
been
with
us
for
a
considerable
amount
of
time.
She
was
the
second
clerk
that
we
had
after
the
first
clerk
was
promoted.
She,
even
though
she
was
gone
and
told
her
she
was
leaving
in
december.
She
was
still
sitting
here
with
miss
wilson
and
it
was
nice
to
see
her
at
those
meetings
at
all.
It
was
extremely
shocking
to
me,
and
I
have
this
tendency
sometime
of
being
a
little
bit
forward.
E
I
know
I
shouldn't
be,
but
I
did
I
couldn't
I
wanted
to
get
to
the
service.
It
all
happened
so
fast
and
I
was
trying
to
get
a
card,
but
I
didn't
know
where
she
was
because
at
the
time
even
the
article
in
the
paper
didn't
indicate
you
know
where
it
was
going
to
be
and
on
behalf
of
the
crb,
because
I
saw
other
information
indicating
that
she
was
a
clerk
and
you
know
where
she
worked
and
20
plus
she
is
or
whatever
here
with
the
city.
But
there
was
nothing
in
there.
E
That
mentioned
the
crb
and
she
gave
a
considerable
amount
of
time
and
service
to
the
short
while
that
we've
been
here,
so
I
actually
did
a
resolution.
It's
something
that
I'm
accustomed
to
in
the
black
church
might
have
been
a
little
bit
too
aggressive,
and
I
agree
with
a
legal
counsel
here
I
had
the
tendency
you
know
mention
it
for
myself
but
saying
as
a
member
as
a
on
behalf
of
I
think
of
the
crb.
E
So
I
did
do
a
resolution
and
I
think
if
we
could
discuss
that,
so
if
something
like
that
happen
again-
and
if
that's
not
what
we
want,
then
we
shouldn't
do
it.
But
it
would
be
the
same
to
me
if
it
was
one
of
the
members
of
the
board
either
currently
or
one
of
our
original
members
as
a
salute
to
that
person
for
the
legacy
that
they
contributed
to
this
particular
board.
So
I
need
to
let
you
guys
know
I
did
do
it
and
I'm
not
really
asking
for
an
apology.
E
I'm
just
telling
you
I
might
have
been
wrong
or
it
may
have
been
right,
but
I
did
do
a
resolution
to
go
to
her
service
and
I
subsequently
made
sure
that
I
said
it
because
I
didn't
have
a
personal
home
address
and
didn't
know
the
funeral
home.
So
I
sent
it
when
I
realized
I
couldn't
make
it.
I
sent
it
to
her
last
immediately
person
she
was
accountable
to
which
was
city
councilman
lou's.
E
I
sent
it
to
him
and
I
also
saw
that
complying
with
the
florida
sunshine
and
what
we
cannot
do
to
communicate
with
one
another.
I
almost
sent
it
to
the
chair,
but
I
didn't
so
I
send
it
to
mrs
tomorrow
tennis
and
so
that
she
would
have
it
and
she
and
I
kind
of
discussed
it.
So
if
it's
something
that
we're
not
going
to
do
or
if
there's
simply
going
to
be
a
card
or
something
like
that
happen,
I
would
like
to
know
the
parts
of
the
board.
B
E
E
A
Memorial
and
I
am
interested
in
reviewing
such
resolution,
things
of
that
nature
and
your
heart
is
in
a
good
place.
I
think
you
can't
go
wrong,
so
I
mean
for
doing
what
you
felt
was
right
for
the
sake
of
yourself,
the
sake
of
the
board.
I
have
no
no
problems
with
that,
as
well
as
it
comply
with
the
sunshine
state
laws.
B
Mr
earth,
yes
I'd
like
to
second
dr
collins
comments
and
also
say
that
I
would,
I
want
to
officially
recognize
her
years
of
service
to
the
city
of
tampa
from
what
I
understand.
She
was
a
great
service
person
to
this
community
and
that
needs
to
be
fully
recognized.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
C
Kamaria
perez
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
dr
collins,
did
prepare
the
resolution
I
and
dr
collinskin.
C
Explained
she
wanted
to
provide
the
resolution
to
the
family.
So
if
the
board
wants
to
prepare
a
resolution
or
a
letter
acknowledging
mrs
mercer's
service
to
the
crb,
I
I
can
assist
with
providing
a
letter
to
provide
to
the
family
and
ensure
that
it
gets
to
the
family.
If
that's
what
the
board
is
inclined
to
do
the
letter
or
the
resolution
that
dr
collins
provided,
I
could
put
it
on
the
well.
You
have
a
clean
copy.
C
B
E
And
I
would
say
that,
even
if,
if
a
letter
can
be
written
on
our
behalf,
I
can't
send
you
guys
this
because
of
the
florida
sunshine,
but
I
did
send
it
if
you
guys
wanted
to
be
sent
out
to
read
it.
I
do
have
a
copy
over
here
or
that
I
did
bring
with
me
and
you
could
read
it
and
you
might
say
well,
no,
let's
just
do
a
letter
to
send
something
to
the
family,
but
I
was
just
more
concerned
that
she
served
us
and
I
wanted
it
to
be
ready.
B
A
Sorry,
reverend
banks
is
making
a
motion
to
create
a
resolution
letter
on
behalf
of
the
board.
Yes,.
E
And
if
it's
going
to
be
a
resolution
letter,
if
we
can
say
now
so
that
we
will
know
somebody's
going
to
do
something
on
our
behalf
or
we
do
it,
I'm
going
with
what
miss
mercer
used
to
tell
me
to
do.
You
say:
y'all
was
going
to
do
it
so
and
I'd
like
you
to
remember
how
she
said
that
even
with
the
media
can
we
establish
the
fact,
because
you
know
we
don't
know
who
it
may
be,
and
if
we
want
to
recognize
the
service
of
that
individual,
and
that
was
quick.
E
You
know
you
get
something
on
a
sunday
and
you've
got
a
service
on
saturday
and
it
usually
has
been
a
delay
and
we
never
did
have
it.
So
I
would
say
that
if
that's
something
that
we
want
to
do,
even
if
the
person
say
well,
I
don't
wanna
let
that
thing
happen,
that's
their
choice,
but
if
it's
something
that
we
wanna
do
and
acknowledge
the
service
of
that
individual,
I'm
fine
with
I'm
fine
with
it.
If
it
go
to
the
family,
I'm
also
fine
with
it.
C
E
C
I
mean
as
a
board,
if
that's
your
personal
preference,
to
do
that,
I
mean
there's,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
you
doing
that.
Personally,
if
you
want
to
take
action
as
a
board,
you
have
to
be
meet
together
as
a
board
to
discuss
that
at
the
time
at
a
meeting.
So
if
that's
what
you're
asking
you
would
have
to
wait
until
we
have
a
meeting
in
order
to
discuss
that.
E
And
I
can
understand
exactly
what
you're
saying
so
if
we
could
put
this
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
meeting,
but
in
the
meantime,
we're
discussing
it
now
to
put
what
on
the
agenda
if
we
want
to
do
any
kind
of
acknowledgement.
Any
resolution
resolution
letters
or
anything
like
that.
If
there's
something
the
board
wanted
to
do.
C
E
A
I
I
believe,
I
think,
I'm
not
speaking
for
the
entire
board,
but
a
few
of
us
have
expressed
our
concerns
and
I
think,
we're
all
in
agreement
of
a
collective
letter
that
mr
maria
can
provide
to
the
family,
to
acknowledge
that
we
appreciate
the
services
that
she
provided
for
us.
I
think
that
will
will
be
suffice
as
reference
to
moving
forward
under
crb
staff
reports
in
business.
A
If
we
wanted
to
engage
in
this
type
of
dialogue
on
worst
case
scenario,
something
this
incident
happens
in
the
future,
we
will
have
a
template
already
established.
I
have
no
no
problem
with
adding
that
to
the
crb
staff
reports
business
for
next
month.
If
that's
your
desire,
any
further
discussion.
E
E
A
A
A
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
would
like
to
bring
up
and
or
back
to
like
the
case
that
we
reviewed
in
february
case
number
21f04
we
bought
regarding
officer
boyd.
I
know.
Last
month
we
reviewed
a
presentation
of
powerpoint
and
we
also
looked
at
a
recommendation
that
we're
going
to
submit
to
the
chief
that
ms
camares
did
for
us.
However,
doing
some
investigation
in
terms
of
research,
as
well
as
the
different
police
departments
and
really
went
back
to
the
case
and
read
it
and
saw
the
facts
I
came
across.
D
What
I
think
is
what
we
are
trying
to
communicate
and
our
recommendation,
which
is
a
disciplined
matrix.
So
I
would
like
to
ask
first
if
the
city
of
the
hampton
police
department
has
a
discipline
matrix
for
their
officers,
if
not,
our
recommendation
would
be
to
propose
that
the
city
of
tampa
police
department
creates
a
disciplined
matrix
and
basically,
what
a
discipline
matrix.
Does
it
really
eliminates
disparities
and
ensures
that
officers
who
have
been
found
to
have
committed
similar
forms
of
misconduct
will
receive
a
similar
discipline.
A
So
mr
valdez
is
sharing
a
a
briefing
in
reference
to
south
bend
police
department
as
an
example
of
his
is
an
example
of
the
discipline
matrix
template
that
he's
suggesting
could
be
added
into
a
recommendation
for
our
town
police
department
in
reference
to
the
chief
or
to
the
city
mayor.
D
E
D
So
the
discussion
that
we
had
during
the
february
meeting
was
more
so
related
to
the
severity
of
the
violations
and
really
having
a
discipline
tied
to
that
and
depending
on
the
progressive
of
such
discipline.
That
officer
would
be
receiving
discipline
such
to
that
nature
of
incident.
D
So,
for
example,
in
this
very
first
form
that
we're
looking
from
southland
police
department,
their
discipline
matrix
includes
different
levels,
a
level
one
is
a
minimal
negative
impact
on
department,
image
or
operations,
and
such
violations
can
be
a
seat
belt
violation,
non-criminal
traffic
traffic
infractions,
low
speed
at
all
traffic,
all
the
way
to
failure
to
advise
of
address
or
telephone
change,
so
in
their
first
violation,
they'll
receive
a
oral
reprimand
on
their
second
violation.
They'll
receive
a
written
reprimand
and
on
the
third
violation,
though,
we
see
a
two-day
unpaid
suspension.
D
If
you
go
further
down
to
level
two,
this
consists
of
any
of
more
than
minimal
negative
impact
on
department,
image
or
operations,
relationships
with
offer
with
other
officers
or
the
community,
and
such
violations
can
be
repeated
violations
from
level
one
property
damage,
loss
of
department,
property
unauthorized
leave
whether
to
have
secondary
employment
approved.
D
If
the
officer
displays
any
of
these
violations
on
their
first
violation,
they'll
get
a
written
reprimand
which
you
can
see
is
different
from
the
above
level.
They
will,
on
oral.
Second
violation,
will
be
a
three-day,
unpaid
suspension.
Third
violation
would
be
a
five-day,
unpaid
suspension,
so
I
know
we
had
discussion
on
in
february,
as
it
relates
to
this
specific
case,
because
the
officer
violated
several
policies
as
they
related
to
the
the
department,
and
he
received
a
writ.
A
written
counseling
letter
was
what
he
received
so.
A
If
you
will
captain
messmer
are,
are
you
familiar
with
the
term
discipline
matrix?
Is
that
something
that
our
law
enforcement
is
aware
of
this
particular
disciplinary
action
format.
F
That
would
be
probably
something
that
would
have
to
be
collectively
bargained
because
it
would
be
a
change
to
our
discipline
policy.
I
don't
know
what
the
law
enforcement
bill
of
rights
is
like
in
indiana.
I
don't
know
if
they're
represented
by
a
union,
but
we
just
can't
implement
things
because
somebody
else
has
done
in
another
state.
We
would
have
to
look
at
that.
We
would
have
to
discuss
that
with
council.
We
would
have
to
sit
down
with
the
union,
they
probably
would
if
we
just
threw
something
like
this
out.
F
They
would
I
it's
my
opinion
that
they
would
probably
file
some
sort
of
a
grievance
or
unfair
labor
practice
if
we
just
did
it
without
their
knowledge
without
their
consent.
So
that
would
be
something
we
would
have
to
really
take
a
very
deep
look
at,
and
I
don't
looking
at
these-
I
don't
really
think
it.
F
So
I
I
don't
know
what
it's
really
solving,
because
we
do
this
now
we
don't
have
it
in
a
you
know:
excel
spreadsheet,
with
columns
in
in
specific
levels,
but
we
do
go
off
of
progressive
discipline.
We
do
go
off
of
past
practice
and
we
do
have
defined
serious
policy
violations
that
always
result
in
termination
for
the
most
part.
So
I
again
we
can,
I
can
take
it
back
and
look
at
it,
but
without
knowing
how
that
would
comply
with
our
contract,
our
statutes
and
and
again
just
by
looking
at
it.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
sharing
cotton
mesmer,
and
I
do
want
to
applaud
the
additional
research
and
the
going
to
the
extra
step.
This
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
asked
in
the
past
for
for
our
members
in
reference
to
creating
more
recommendations
to
share
in
reference
to
policy
change
or
disciplinary
actions,
to
the
chief
and
to
the
to
the
mayor.
So
I
do
applaud
your
effort.
I
will
like
to
have
the
opportunity
to
brief
this
sample
display
matrix.
That's
captain
messmer
stated
as
well.
A
When
you
speak
about
disciplinary
actions,
we
do
have
policies
in
place,
there's
other
entities,
the
reference
to
build
the
rights
and
unions
and
things
of
that
nature
that
has
to
be
looked
at,
but
again
this
is
a
very
great
start.
I
applaud
you
for
this.
I
would
like
to
have
the
opportunity
to
brief
and
get
familiarity
with
the
disciplined
matrix
myself
as
well,
and
this
may
be
something
that
we
can
add
on
the
agenda.
A
E
E
We
see
what
we're
doing,
because
I
even
go
back
to
the
case
that
we
had
with
the
police
officer
who
did
what
he
did
with
the
kid
in
the
car,
with
his
parent
at
home
and
different
things
that
occurred
with
that,
and
we
shouldn't
know
what
it
was.
It
would
be
good
to
look
at
a
comparison
and
if
we
gave
gave
you
time,
I
know
you
know
to
review
this
and
to
kind
of
look
at
it.
So
if
you
brought
it
back
to
us
and
say
you
know,
this
is
the
same
thing
we're
doing
here.
E
If
we
had
a
couple
of
months,
it
would
be
nice
to
have
put
it
on
the
agenda
specific
to
bring
it
back.
So
we
could
take
a
look
at
it
and
not
to
say
that
would
help
us
determine
if
we
wanted
to
say
hey
it's
just
one
piece
in
here
that
looked
pretty
good.
If
we
can
look
at
that,
rather
than
looking
at
the
the
total
sum
part
captain.
A
Messmer,
do
you
think
that
this
is
something
that
can
be
placed
together
in
reference
to
a
comparison
of
what
mr
valdez
has
presented
tonight
verse?
What
we
already
have
in
play
is
this
something
that
we
can
add
to
either
next
month
agenda
or
the
following
month
to
give
you
the
necessary
time
to
go
through
this
this
briefing
and
see
how
we
compare
with
other
cities
and
states.
F
Month,
I'm
going
to
have
somebody
else
here,
I'm
going
to
be
out
of
town
at
a
conference,
but
so
probably
in
june.
If
you
want
to
reapproach
this
again,
I
don't.
I
don't
know
how
receptive
the
executive
staff
and
the
union
would
be
to
something
like
this.
That
is
going
to
clearly
define
certain
things.
F
We
again
we
we
don't
have
something
like
this,
because
for
each
and
every
violation
we
do.
We
pull
our
own
records
from
our
case
management
system
and
look
at
all
previous
violations
and
give
the
same
discipline.
So
we
don't
need
a
matrix
to
say
that
failing
to
appear
at
court
is
going
to
be
a
written
reprimand.
A
Well,
I,
I
definitely
don't
think
we're
we're
there
yet,
but
you
know
just
to
the
fact
of
public
education
and
awareness
not
to
compare
apples
to
oranges.
I
think
this
would
be
a
great
opportunity
for
the
public
to
better
understand
our
disciplinary
tree
and
how
we
compare
with
other
options,
that's
out
there
and
just
to
applaud
the
the
energy
that
he
has
placed
into
this
matter
based
off
a
previous
case.
A
I
think
there's
something
that
the
the
public
may
have
some
interest
in,
so
I
I
would
like
to
add
this
to
the
agenda
in
june
and
again,
if
nothing
else
as
public
education
and
citizen.
A
Sometimes
you
place
some
things
together
and
even
if
we
get
one
good
aspect
out
of
it,
it
was
worth
the
image.
A
A
F
C
Mr
chair,
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
regarding
the
presentation
of
the
annual
report,
the
crb
annual
report
to
city
council
that
date
for
the
presentation
of
the
report
is
going
to
be
may
5th
2022
it's
at
a
time
certain
of
9
a.m.
It's
the
first
it'll
be
the
first
item
on
the
agenda,
so
obviously
mr
chair,
you
will
be
there.
I
will
be
there
to
assist
you
in
the
presentation,
but
the
board
members
are
welcome
to
come.
A
And
I
urge
any,
if
not
all,
members
of
the
board,
if
possible,
to
be
present,
if,
if
applicable,
for
the
presentation
of
the
crb
annual
report
to
city
council,
this
has
been
placed
in
into
the
new
orleans
and
it'd
be
great.
If
one
have
the
availability
to
show
support.
A
We'll
continue
with
the
agenda
for
any
in
reference
to
the
meeting
of
next
month.
The
fourth
tuesday
of
next
month
will
be
may
24th
of
2022..
Any
further
discussion
is
necessary
for
the
upcoming
meeting.
A
For
any
reasons,
if
you're
unable
to
attend
the
next
meeting,
I
believe
that
we
all
received
a
confirmation,
email
and
that
seemed
to
get
us
a
a
great
response.
I
would
like
to
continue
that,
so
we
can
have
notification
and
understand
that
mercy
does
happen.
A
However,
if
we
can
continue
that
template
give
us
a
notification
that
we
do
have
a
form,
and
we
can
all
you
know,
move
forward
together
on
on
that.
So
let's
continue
to
do
so,
but
for
whatever
reason,
if
you're
unable
to
attend,
please,
if
applicable,
of
48
hours
in
advance
to
ensure
we
have
a
forum
before
I
adjourn
this
meeting,
I'd
like
to
give
the
floor
to
any
of
our
board
members,
if
you
want
to
share
any
additional
comments,
statements
or
concerns.
B
E
B
A
If
possible,
can
we
get
a
road
map
of
that
entrance
area
in
the
recommended
parking
area
for
our
for
our
members
to
ensure
that
they
can
be
present
at
six
o'clock
and
not
be
riding.